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Speaker 1: music talk with Brian Oak, longtime friend. We'll talk through

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Speaker 1: our favorite led Zeppelin songs from every album. Brett Blakemore

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Speaker 1: is here to help out as well. Brett led Zeppelin

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Speaker 2: Yes they were, and I know them from well I

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Speaker 1: That's outstanding. Yes. The other movie that led Zeppelin is

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Speaker 1: famous for is School of Rock, in which notoriously led

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Speaker 1: Zeppelin had refused to let their songs be used in movies,

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Speaker 1: led Zeppelin in School of Rock, and the band relented.

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Speaker 1: Stats Information Network, Sports Information Network. As you really know

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Speaker 1: rise of these Survivor pool Brett. I assume you're familiar

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Speaker 1: with Circus Survivor. I feel like most sports fans, even

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Speaker 1: got an eighteen million dollar jackpot. This is the one

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Speaker 1: place where the big, the big, most notorious of the

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Speaker 1: survivor pools is the Circus Survivor Pool. It's taken on

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Speaker 1: a life of its own. It was a Bloodbeth last week.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to Mitch Moss about how this thing has

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Speaker 1: grown and how big it's become in betting circles as well,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily feel quite that way. So plenty of

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Speaker 1: football talk coming, But before we get to that, Brett,

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Speaker 1: I think we should start with the Minnesota Wild season opener.

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Speaker 1: Five nothing over the Blues.

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Speaker 2: I think Capries IV had three points boldie. And then

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Speaker 1: You know what else looks Offwon Barkley. This was your

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I'd find something good for sure.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski. This week has made a lot of news

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Speaker 1: This is got to be one of the trying moments

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Speaker 1: Let's dial in Dave Sinecon. Let's let's get a check

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Speaker 1: in with the hated rivals, the Green Bay Packers. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the unexpected loss and unexpected tie. Is that

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Speaker 1: who this team really is or not? Get some top

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Speaker 1: thoughts on Micah Parsons. Where we are at this point

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Speaker 1: through the one quarter stage. Just two tackles for Micah Parsons,

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Speaker 1: which is peculiar and whether or not Jordan Love has

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Speaker 1: provided the X has lived up to the expectations that

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Speaker 1: people had coming into this season. So Dave Sinecon, Brett blakemore.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back Friday Football Feest Paul Trage with you. It's

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Speaker 1: a I don't know, an old school edition of Friday

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Speaker 1: Football Feest. Great to be back with you. Pa is

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Speaker 1: on vacation bye week. Nordo on vacation bye week as well.

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Speaker 1: The presumption is pa is seeing Colie. I assume that's

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Speaker 1: the case traditionally, what he what he enjoys doing on

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Speaker 1: the bye week. A good opportunity for that and a

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Speaker 1: little some well deserved time off after the international trout.

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Speaker 1: Joining us now the host of in the Zone Packer

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Speaker 1: Preview Dave's in again, hid Ave Charge, How we doing

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Speaker 1: very good? Nice to talk to you again. It's been

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Speaker 1: a little while, so it's nice to just have you back.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure to be back on whenever the Vikings

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Speaker 1: play the Packers. But that's not imminent.

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Speaker 5: I don't think, no, it's I think it's the Sunday

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Speaker 5: before Thanksgiving week, So we got a month and change

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Speaker 5: till we get back at it.

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Speaker 1: Let's check in on your squad up through the early

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Speaker 1: bye week. Let's start here. I'm not bringing this up

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Speaker 1: just to be mean to you and Brett, but let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the loss to Cleveland and the tie to

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys that were not on the roadmap. Do you

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Speaker 1: believe that's just sort of freak occurrence black field goal

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Speaker 1: or do you feel like it's a sign of something

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Speaker 1: more crobbling for the Packers.

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Speaker 5: Charge. This is going to shock you. I know I'm

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Speaker 5: leaning on the freak occurrence. You're talking about a couple

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Speaker 5: of block field goals from being four and oh. Obviously

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Speaker 5: those counts and that's the difference. But no, I have

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Speaker 5: no major concerns about this team that you know, after

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Speaker 5: a two and oh start was suddenly anointed as the

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Speaker 5: favorites in the NFC, and after a couple of games

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Speaker 5: that didn't look so good, now they're back in the

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Speaker 5: middle of the pack. But I still think they've got

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Speaker 5: the talents and everything they need to compete for a

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl. They got to figure out special teams more

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Speaker 5: than anything else. It's not just getting a couple of

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Speaker 5: field goals blocked. It's having returners that have never done

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Speaker 5: it before and putting their offense in really tough spots

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Speaker 5: and giving up big returns. Rich Pasaci still has a

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Speaker 5: job today. Last time I checked, he would not. If

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Speaker 5: I was president of the Packers, I would shake things up,

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Speaker 5: but no, from a basic fifty three man roster. I

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Speaker 5: really like this team. I'm very confident in where they're

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Speaker 5: going to be when things get spicy later in the season. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I just think they got to clean up some special

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Speaker 5: team stuff.

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Speaker 1: That's always the case. It's been been his isn't rich

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Speaker 1: it's Basia? Is that how you say his last name?

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Speaker 1: Isn't he the highest paid special teams coach in the league?

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Speaker 5: I know he was when he signed his new deal

498
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Speaker 5: a couple of years ago. I haven't heard anybody passing

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Speaker 5: him up. You know, he's you know, former Raiders interim coach.

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Speaker 5: You know, players will run through a wall for him.

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Speaker 5: They loved him, you know, he loved me kumbaya. But

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Speaker 5: it's been a constant problem every year he's been in

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Speaker 5: Green Bay. It's never been a strong unit. And now

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Speaker 5: when you have a team that you feel like is

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Speaker 5: writing to compete in a pretty wide open NFC. You

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Speaker 5: know last year, in the year before, it was all about, yeah,

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Speaker 5: you don't have a kicker, Like you're gonna lose close games,

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Speaker 5: there's no kicker. Well now they found a kicker and

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Speaker 5: they had a good punter, but outside of that, it's

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Speaker 5: a disaster. And then they got to figure things out.

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Speaker 5: And he's gonna be there. He's got the respect of

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Speaker 5: the coaching staff and he ain't going anywhere. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: he's not doing this team any favors right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't see an end season change happening unless

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Speaker 1: things get somehow even worse or this continues. You and

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Speaker 1: I were both optimistic that Jordan Love was going to

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Speaker 1: see quite a bit of development this year because last

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Speaker 1: year was something of a lost season on the groin

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Speaker 1: injury that nagged him the entire year and felt like

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Speaker 1: mechanically he was going to be in a better spot

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Speaker 1: to throw better more receivers. Added Matthew Golden that this

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Speaker 1: was going to be something of a breakout year for

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love. What's your feeling on Jordan Love's development through

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Speaker 1: the quarter first quarter of the season.

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Speaker 5: He's the last person I'm worried about on the Packers

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Speaker 5: roster right now. If you watch him play, he passes

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Speaker 5: the itest. If you look at his stats, he's among

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Speaker 5: the league leaders in passer rating, touchdowns to interceptions, completion percentage,

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Speaker 5: and he's playing right now. Charts through the first four

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Speaker 5: weeks kind of like the Vikings, you know, missing two

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Speaker 5: key offensive linemen, if not more, week in and week out.

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Speaker 5: He's down two of his top four receiver This offense

533
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Speaker 5: has not yet fully clicked. After looking really good the

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Speaker 5: first two weeks. Obviously the last two weeks about those linemen,

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Speaker 5: it hasn't been great. But no, Jordan of Love is

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Speaker 5: not the problem. He looks like he has taken a step.

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Speaker 5: I expect him to continue to play well as he

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Speaker 5: starts getting pieces back. The line should be intact. We

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Speaker 5: think the left tackle Rashid Walkers now iffy. But the

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Speaker 5: two guys that have been out, Zach Tom and Aaron Banks,

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Speaker 5: are expected to be back on Sunday. Getting those guys'

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Speaker 5: help working Christian Watson back in the next couple of

543
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Speaker 5: weeks are only going to help him. No, his his

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Speaker 5: game is great. Yes, he's had a couple of mistakes.

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Speaker 5: You know, he's thrown his first pick in the last

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Speaker 5: ten regular season games against Cleveland in a bad spot,

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Speaker 5: he lost a ball against Dallas and the end of

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Speaker 5: the first half in a tough spot. Outside of a

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Speaker 5: couple of mistakes, he's the least of the Packers' problems.

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Speaker 5: He looks every bit to me like a fifty million

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Speaker 5: dollar a year quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Well, and he needs to right. Let's let's go to

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Speaker 1: Matthew Golden. His it's been a slower start than I

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Speaker 1: had hoped. I had figured that he would really walk

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Speaker 1: into his starting role and he'd be on field as

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Speaker 1: really a starter week one. But it's been a gradual

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Speaker 1: but increasing role for Matthew Golden, your first round, our

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Speaker 1: first round pick needed. He did playmaker in the offense, don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like he's really splashed yet, but obviously

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Speaker 1: it's still fair What are your thoughts about Matthew Golda

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Speaker 1: based on what you've seen so far?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, he hasn't splashed yet. They've missed on

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Speaker 5: a couple of big plays that were right there against Dallas,

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Speaker 5: and you know, I think those are coming. The opportunities

565
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Speaker 5: are going to be there with the depleted wide receiver

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Speaker 5: ranks right now, with those two guys read and watch

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Speaker 5: and still out. Yeah, I think it's it's been slow

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Speaker 5: to go, but you know, I the speed is there,

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Speaker 5: the hands are there, the route runnings there. They're still

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Speaker 5: trying to figure out the best way to use him.

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Speaker 5: I know from a fantasy perspective, he hasn't been a

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Speaker 5: guy anybody can rely on. I don't know that he

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Speaker 5: will be all season. I think you'll have a number

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Speaker 5: of games where he has the kind of stat that

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Speaker 5: you're looking for. But from everything I've read, he brings

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Speaker 5: it every day in practice. They know it's just a

577
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Speaker 5: matter of time. You know. Some rookies jump right off

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Speaker 5: the page and give you the stats right off the bat.

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Speaker 5: Other guys it takes a little time. I'd be surprised

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Speaker 5: if he doesn't have a good game against Cincinnati and

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Speaker 5: this defense. I think green Bay's offense is ready to

582
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Speaker 5: lay the hammer down after not winning a game in

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Speaker 5: a month, not being in Lambeau in a month. I

584
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Speaker 5: think the Bengals are the cure for what ails you,

585
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Speaker 5: and I'm excited to watch Golden. As the weeks go on,

586
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Speaker 5: they're looking at him more, they're targeting him more, and

587
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Speaker 5: he is getting open. It's just a matter of those

588
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Speaker 5: two guys connecting, and I think those days are coming soon.

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Speaker 2: Hey Davey, you mentioned his name a couple of times.

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Speaker 2: Christian Watson. He said a couple of weeks ago, if

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Speaker 2: it was the NFC Championship game, I'd be playing for.

592
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Speaker 2: I'd be pushing to play. But you've opened this twenty

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Speaker 2: one day window. We know that the training staff has

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Speaker 2: been conservative, and especially after Zach tom fiasco that happened

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Speaker 2: a couple of week weeks ago. How do you see

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Speaker 2: them bringing him back? Would he play even as soon

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Speaker 2: as this week in limited fashion or do you think

598
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Speaker 2: it's a long way off?

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Speaker 5: Still something in between. You know, it's nine months since

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Speaker 5: the ACL. That's not a lot of time, obviously, especially

601
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Speaker 5: for a skill position player to come back from an ACL.

602
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Speaker 5: But it sounds like he's been ahead a schedule from

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Speaker 5: the start. Did return to practice this week, As you said,

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Speaker 5: they opened up that twenty one day window. From what

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Speaker 5: I've read, I think they're going to probably hold him

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Speaker 5: out at least the next two weeks. Maybe he's back

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Speaker 5: for the Sunday night game in Pittsburgh. I think more

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Speaker 5: likely it's the following home game against Carolina. Then you

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Speaker 5: wramp up and get ready for the Eagles the following

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Speaker 5: Monday night. So I think, you know, early November. I

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Speaker 5: think a couple two, three more weeks, maybe he's back

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Speaker 5: for Pittsburgh. But my money says Carolina early November. No, really,

613
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Speaker 5: no sense in really rushing it. You know, you want

614
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Speaker 5: him hopefully on the field of December and January and

615
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Speaker 5: feeling good. So yeah, a few more weeks. But the

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Speaker 5: exciting thing is to have that speed and that that

617
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Speaker 5: speed is back, and that remains to be seen. It

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Speaker 5: might be another season before he's got the speed. But

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Speaker 5: if he's got that speed and they could put e

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Speaker 5: and Golden on the field at the same time, that's

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Speaker 5: what has this coaching staff excited about what the soft

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Speaker 5: ens can do, because you've got to devote resources to

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Speaker 5: speed like that. When you got two guys like that,

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Speaker 5: you can really put some pressure and some hurt on

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Speaker 5: a defense. So I'm willing to wait. I'm hoping we

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Speaker 5: get a full one hundred percent Christian Watson by December,

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Speaker 5: and then we'll see what the soft ms can do.

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Speaker 1: That's the familiar voice of Dave Sinigan in the Zone

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Speaker 1: Packer preview. Tucker Craft has turned into an elite pass

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Speaker 1: catching tight end, and considering his age, I was thinking

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Speaker 1: about this as I was I was prepping our conversation.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many tight ends in the league

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Speaker 1: I would trade Tucker Craft for. There aren't many. I

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Speaker 1: mean it might be Brock Bowers, mmmm, Tyler Warren maybe,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. I mean, Tucker Craft is

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Speaker 1: emerging as one of the great past catching tight ends

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Speaker 1: in this league.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it sure seems like it. And yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 5: I mean, I Warren, Bowers, maybe McBride, and then after that,

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Speaker 5: you know, I don't know if I think he's just

641
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Speaker 5: tapping his potential really for what he can be, and

642
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Speaker 5: it's not just being a really good pass catcher. They

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Speaker 5: really trust him in the blocking game too. He's a

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Speaker 5: He's a George Kittle type guy, and I remember a

645
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Speaker 5: couple off seasons ago he was training with George Kittle

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Speaker 5: in the summer and really watching how he trains and

647
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Speaker 5: trying to watch how he improves his craft, if you will,

648
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Speaker 5: and clearly it helped. I mean, he's it's Warren's rubbed

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Speaker 5: off on him seeing George Kittle go about his business

650
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Speaker 5: because he kind of feels like a George Kittle type player.

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Speaker 5: He's he's one of those teammates you love because he's

652
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Speaker 5: just going to give you everything every single play. And

653
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Speaker 5: he's so good after the catch, and that's what you

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Speaker 5: love in a tight end. It's not just you know,

655
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Speaker 5: getting open making a catch, but he punishes p after

656
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Speaker 5: he gets the ball, and it's really easy to root

657
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Speaker 5: for a guy like that. So, you know, green Bay

658
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Speaker 5: is it's been kind of known for Packer fans that,

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Speaker 5: you know, third round picks are like where rookies going

660
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Speaker 5: to die when they're drafted by Green Bay. The track

661
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Speaker 5: record in the third round is abysmal over the last

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Speaker 5: seven or eight years. For whatever reason, Tucker Craft has

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Speaker 5: broken that mold. He looks like the slam duck home

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Speaker 5: run third round pick. And you know Luke bus Grave

665
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Speaker 5: as you know, was drafted a round ahead of him,

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Speaker 5: and the thought was that he was the guy with

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Speaker 5: the higher upside. But clearly Craft has jumped with that

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Speaker 5: opportunity and given this offense a different dimension. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 5: he is really fun to watch, and yeah, I think

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Speaker 5: the sky's e limit. He's just scratching the surface where

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Speaker 5: he's going to be.

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Speaker 4: Now, let's switch sides of the ball.

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Speaker 2: We've talked a lot about the offense, and I'll let

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Speaker 2: charge do the the traditional why isn't Micah Parsons making

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Speaker 2: a bigger impact question a little bit later, but I

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Speaker 2: want to talk about the defense and the turnovers. It

677
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Speaker 2: was the calling card of this defense to get the

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Speaker 2: ball back to the offense interception these Axavier McKinney going like,

679
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Speaker 2: what a six game interception streak.

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Speaker 4: To start last year? Not so much this year.

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Speaker 2: There, I think they only have two turnovers or takeaways

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Speaker 2: this year, So what can they do better?

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Speaker 4: And why is that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's crazy because that reading through training camp, it

685
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Speaker 5: was such a focus for this defense is to continue

686
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Speaker 5: to take the ball away. And remember Green Bay's defense

687
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Speaker 5: got so much better as the season went along. Last

688
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Speaker 5: year it finished at the top ten, but many said, well,

689
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Speaker 5: it's the interceptions and the turnovers they got that really

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Speaker 5: masked the deficiencies of the defense, So you figured there

691
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Speaker 5: might be some regression. No team can keep that pace

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Speaker 5: up like they had last year. But it's kind of

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Speaker 5: been alarming that they just have the two interceptions, just

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Speaker 5: two turnovers. They have not forced to fumble despite the

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Speaker 5: focus on taking the ball away. You know, I'm assuming

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Speaker 5: those things come. You know, you suddenly you're going to

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Speaker 5: get three or four in a game, but you're not

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Speaker 5: going to think about it anymore. But it's odd because

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Speaker 5: it is something they focus on. They've got a lot

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Speaker 5: of really talented playmakers. They put pressure on the quarterback

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Speaker 5: that usually leads to mistakes. You know, the first two

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Speaker 5: weeks they played well, I guess three of the four

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Speaker 5: weeks they've played talented quarterbacks, right, you know, goth and

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Speaker 5: Daniels and Dak. Those guys know how to get the

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Speaker 5: rid of the ball quickly, and that was certainly Dak's

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Speaker 5: focus a couple of weeks ago. I can't really explain

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Speaker 5: or put my finger on why it hasn't happened. I

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Speaker 5: expected to, but you know, otherwise, you know, the defense

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Speaker 5: has been really strong so far throughout, you know, the

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Speaker 5: first four games. The big concern is the Devonte Wyatt

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Speaker 5: injury because when he went down second quarter against Dallas,

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Speaker 5: the defense looked like a different unit in the second half.

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Speaker 5: So they either have to go shopping for a defensive

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Speaker 5: lineman I think why it's going to miss some time,

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Speaker 5: or they're going to need someone to step up. Because Cincinnati,

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Speaker 5: they have not been able to run the football. They're

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Speaker 5: going to try their best to do that with Wyatt

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Speaker 5: out in the middle of that defense. Obviously Kenny Clark

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Speaker 5: is no longer there. Why it was off to a

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Speaker 5: great start doesn't sound like it's long term, but it's

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Speaker 5: week to week. So that's where my concern is, is

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Speaker 5: stopping the run, making sure they've got a guy in

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Speaker 5: the middle that can allow those playmakers to do their thing.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's transition over to Micah Parsons. The pass

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Speaker 1: rushing I think has been very good. Twenty five quarterback

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Speaker 1: pressure so far, three sacks, the weird thing two tackles.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what, and I know

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Speaker 1: they're using him situationally. He's not on the field every

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Speaker 1: play and maybe that's part of it. But you would

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Speaker 1: still think just being on the field and being Mike

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Speaker 1: Cah Parsons, you'd have more than two tackles. So give

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Speaker 1: me your thoughts on where what you've seen with Micah

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Speaker 1: Parsons through this stage of the season so far.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Church, you know, we haven't seen a lot of

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Speaker 5: the big splash plays that make it on Sports Center.

736
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Speaker 5: So that makes people wonder, like, well if the impact

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Speaker 5: in the game, like is he fitting in? What's what's

738
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Speaker 5: the issue? But you said it at the beginning. You know,

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Speaker 5: he's second in the NFC with pressures and he's played

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Speaker 5: a less one less game than most people, most few players.

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Speaker 5: But they've only they've got their bye week already and

742
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Speaker 5: he's out of a snapcount the first three week two,

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Speaker 5: So you know he's also getting used to his teammates,

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Speaker 5: getting it used to the scheme. I mean, all this

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Speaker 5: stuff takes a little bit of time. As far as

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Speaker 5: the tackles go, I mean, he's never been a tackling machine.

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Speaker 5: He hasn't been on the field a lot the first

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Speaker 5: few weeks in running down situations. So I'm not at

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Speaker 5: all concerned about Micah Parsons and tackles. I haven't seen

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Speaker 5: him miss a ton of tackles. I do see him

751
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Speaker 5: getting double and triple teamed all the time, opening up

752
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 5: opportunities for other guys and impacting the defense that way too.

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Speaker 5: So he's getting after the quarterback. The sacks will come

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Speaker 5: three through four games, playing about two thirds of the snaps.

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Speaker 5: Those snaps are going to be ramped up. I'm excited

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Speaker 5: to watch as the season goes on what he does

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Speaker 5: in this defense. I don't think we'll have too many

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Speaker 5: concerns about Number one as things go on here, because

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Speaker 5: you see his impact when he's on the field and

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00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 5: it dribbles off to the other guys. So yeah, we'll

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Speaker 5: watch the tackles. We'll see if it becomes an issue.

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Speaker 5: It's not something that keeps me up at night. There

763
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 5: are plenty of things I worry about with this team.

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Speaker 5: That's not one of them. Like Jordan Love. Love and

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Speaker 5: Parsons are two guys I'm not at all concerned about.

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Speaker 5: They got two guys that are gonna be cornerstones for

767
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Speaker 5: this franchise for years. Some of the cracks inside they

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Speaker 5: have to figure out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, last one for me here.

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Speaker 2: If I'm a Packer fan living in the Twin Cities

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Speaker 2: and I feel like I'm waking up the day after

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Speaker 2: a game and i just want to get my Packers fixed.

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Speaker 4: Is there anywhere they could do that potentially?

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Speaker 5: Well, it's funny you should ask, because you know, the

775
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 5: morning after every Packer game, we do a Packer Review podcast.

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Speaker 5: In fact, you do that with me. It's available on

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00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 5: the iHeart app. You just click on Packer Preview and

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00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 5: you'll find our Packer Review podcast. And it's been a

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00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 5: lot of fun because I've never been able to outside

780
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 5: of the five or ten minute border battle with Pa

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Speaker 5: or Chart or whoever' spill it in, can't really react

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00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 5: to Packer games. So we found a way to do

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Speaker 5: that with the Packer Review podcast, which is available for sponsorship,

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00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 5: I should add, And we're having a lot of fun

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Speaker 5: doing it and getting set to do it again with

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Speaker 5: you on Monday morning following the Bengals game.

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Speaker 1: My friend m Yeah, you know it Depends is using

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Speaker 1: Emmitt Smith as as their spokesman. Maybe they, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe Depends could come and be a sponsor for for

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Speaker 1: the Packers.

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Speaker 4: Maybe if the checks cash, you know, that's.

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Speaker 5: I'll take it. I'll take it whoever ever. Once in

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Speaker 5: there on, we'll take it.

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Speaker 1: No, I understand you're not picky. It just seems like

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Speaker 1: that would be a natural sponsor to me. I mean,

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00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: I think if I my team lost tied to the

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00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 1: Cowboys on national television, I think I want to soil myself.

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Speaker 1: But that's that's just me. Dave Sinekin, thank you for

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Speaker 1: your help. It was good catching up on the hated

800
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: hated rivals the Packers, and we'll listen to you tomorrow

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00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: morning in the zone.

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Speaker 5: Sounds good charge seventh, great weekend, but thanks.

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Speaker 1: A lot, my man, Dave Sinekin. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: Brian Oak, we'll talk a little music, a little segue,

805
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: and a bye week here and some uh some non

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00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 1: Mostly this will be about the only diversion from football

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00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: that will end up having to today. I want to

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00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: talk about the Rush tour. Ten years since Neil Pert

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00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: died and they're going back on tour. I want to

810
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: talk about the led Zeppelin discography. What's her favorite song

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Speaker 1: from every album? Local tie into a band that I

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Speaker 1: just found called Wolfpeck. I know some listeners know about

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Speaker 1: this band, musicians music, their story is nuts and a

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Speaker 1: local tie in there. We might talk about them as well.

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Speaker 1: Brian O coming up, with Paul Jarchi in Moments