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Speaker 2: You know we are we're broadcasting, I guess technically from

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Speaker 2: the NABC convention and Jared Calhoun is a part of that,

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Speaker 2: forward to that. Two interviews in one week with the

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Speaker 2: you know, yesterday just swimming with basketball coaches and they're

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Speaker 2: Final four. The NABC convention is always where the Final

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Speaker 2: the place. There were yesterday, there were last night. Today,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure the weather in India is not unlike the

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Speaker 2: pre show video from the Final four tailgate, which I'll

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Speaker 3: We got a lot to get to between now and

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Speaker 2: the final four Reds and Rangers getting underway in just

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Speaker 2: about an hour, the first road game of the season

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Speaker 2: four Cincinnati. An off night for the Reds last night,

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Speaker 2: but not a night for very good news where Nick

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Speaker 2: Lodolo was removed earlier than planned from his rehab start

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Speaker 2: for the Daytona Tortuga's last night because of recurring blister issues.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a skincare expert.

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Speaker 2: I've had blisters in my life, but I've not had

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Speaker 2: blisters from throwing a baseball. Blisters do become a problem

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Speaker 2: for pitchers occasionally. With Nick Lodolo, they're becoming a defining

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Nicklodolo last season was terrific, his career best strikeout to

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of is for this season.

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Speaker 2: We're hoping he could get through it for the first

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Speaker 2: Maybe there's a remedy that he hasn't tried yet for

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Speaker 2: But I'm thinking, I gotta find a skincare expert. We've

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Speaker 2: How do you keep this from continuing.

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Speaker 2: Because you hate to do this, but you're almost to

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Speaker 2: And look, man, by the end of the season, maybe

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Speaker 3: Maybe he has a terrific season. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: They've acknowledged they don't want to change his grip, and

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of folks out there who here blister

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Speaker 2: And you know, there's there's a difference between you and

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Speaker 2: It's something different, something entirely different when we're talking about

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, Like, it feels like it would

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Speaker 2: The Reds need Nickolodolo, and they need him this year. Look, man,

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Speaker 2: you're already not gonna have Hunter Green for a half

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Speaker 2: And the cool thing about the Reds is you lose

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Speaker 2: not a very good place to be. It's not good

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Speaker 2: for Nick in his career. It's really not good for

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Speaker 3: Let's call it what it is, man.

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Speaker 2: It's not to sneak in with eighty three wins, which

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Speaker 2: You're starting the season with three guys in your rotation

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Speaker 3: Now. Graham obviously works out of the bullpen now, but we.

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Speaker 2: Saw firsthand, even in the season where those guys show

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Speaker 2: But the Nicko Lodolo story has kind of taken on

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Speaker 6: I used to have people tell me mo at Youngstown State,

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately I haven't made it to a game this year.

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Speaker 2: Goodberry with a bit of a Bengals history lesson that

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Speaker 2: I think is aimed to ease people's fears that they're

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Speaker 2: not gonna take Caleb Downs with the tenth overall pick

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Speaker 2: because of their offseason activity at safety, which obviously includes

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Speaker 2: Kyle Dugger signing his contract yesterday. There are a lot

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Speaker 2: of reasons why if Caleb Downs is there, maybe they

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Speaker 2: don't take him. Perhaps their evaluation doesn't mesh with the consensus,

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Speaker 2: although the consensus is hard to ignore and I said

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Speaker 2: this yesterday, as are many of the tape nerds who

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Speaker 3: But maybe their.

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Speaker 2: Evaluation doesn't mesh with the consensus. Maybe there's just another

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Speaker 2: player there at ten that they like because of positional

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Speaker 2: value or just overall physical profile. Like there's there's lots

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Speaker 2: of reasons why teams make the decisions they do, I

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Speaker 2: said yesterday, and I'll double down on this today. The Bengals,

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Speaker 2: you could argue, don't deserve the benefit of the doubt

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Speaker 2: when it comes to a lot of different things fair

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Speaker 2: and you know, frankly, assuming what they're going to do

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Speaker 2: could be a fool's Errand I just I find it

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Speaker 2: impossible to imagine that if the Bengals had or have

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Speaker 2: Caleb downs on their draft board to a place commensurate

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Speaker 2: with him being there at ten and then taking him

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Speaker 2: if they've had him there all along, I simply cannot

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Speaker 2: imagine that suddenly they're gonna go, you know what, We're

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Speaker 2: gonna change things up because we have Kyle Dugger.

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Speaker 3: I just I can be dead wrong about that. Would

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Speaker 3: be the first time, will not be the last. And yeah, man,

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 2: It's the Bengals and everybody's down on Duke Tobin, and

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Speaker 2: there's reasons to be because you know, the foolishness at

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Speaker 2: linebacker I think has kind of defined the offseason, which

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Speaker 2: isn't entirely fair to the players they have acquired. I

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Speaker 2: just again, man, they may not take Caleb Down. Caleb

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Speaker 2: Downts may not be there, and there just may be

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Speaker 2: a player at a different position that they like more,

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Speaker 2: and positional value may come into this. Other options at

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Speaker 2: safety in the draft may come into this. Like there's

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Speaker 2: a billion different reasons why a team chooses to not

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Speaker 2: draft a player, it would be insanely short sighted to

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Speaker 2: look at a player like that and use as the

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Speaker 2: deciding factor to not take him. Hey, we've got Brian

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Speaker 2: Cook and Kyle Dugger. I like the Kyle Dugger signing,

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Speaker 2: you know, and he's talked about like I gotta be

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Speaker 2: better than I had the last two seasons. And I

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Speaker 2: think tape study would reveal that. I think just looking

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Speaker 2: at raw metrics would reveal that, as Pro Football Focus

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Speaker 2: grades would reveal that, the fact that the Patriots were

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Speaker 2: very willing to move on would reveal that's that's a

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Speaker 2: signing to get behind. He's exactly the kind of player

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Speaker 2: at safety that we've been waiting for the Bengals to

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Speaker 2: sign at linebacker. Experienced, there's a degree of reliability there.

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Speaker 2: There's more depth at safety, you could argue than they

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Speaker 2: had last year where they just ran Geno Stone out

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Speaker 2: there because in part they didn't trust the less experienced

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Speaker 2: backups behind him. But you don't sign Kyle Dugger and

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Speaker 2: then go, Okay, we're good at safety, cross that off

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Speaker 2: the list in the draft. Maybe they're that short sided,

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Speaker 2: and again, man, like you're gonna argue that I'm I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming they're gonna do the right thing. And you know,

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Speaker 2: it's not so much about drafting Caleb Downs. It's it's

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Speaker 2: about the fears that many have that they're going to

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Speaker 2: cross him off the list because of who they have signed,

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Speaker 2: or that they've signed those guys because they've never intended

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Speaker 2: on drafting Caleb Downs. I just that strains so much

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Speaker 2: credibility that if it came out that that was basically

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Speaker 2: the reason, or that was the deciding factor, they're gonna

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Speaker 2: get lampooned. You signed Kyle Dugger for a year, whoever

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Speaker 2: you take at ten, you're drafting for the next five

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Speaker 2: and ideally beyond, you're drafting that guy to play safety

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Speaker 2: for you for the rest of this decade, and then

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Speaker 2: maybe even beyond that, depending on how good the guy is.

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Speaker 2: Kyle Duger's not helping you in all likelihood. In twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty seven eighty nine, I just again man read Goodbarry's

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Speaker 2: tweet because what he does is he outlines a lot

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Speaker 2: of instances where maybe he or others assumed that they're

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Speaker 2: not going to draft a player at a certain position

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Speaker 2: because they addressed that position in free agency, and in

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Speaker 2: some cases late in free agency, pretty close to the draft.

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Speaker 2: So I think his point is that if you use

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Speaker 2: history as a guide, there's no reason to believe that

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Speaker 2: because they sign a guy in early April or late

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Speaker 2: March who plays a certain position, that they're not going

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Speaker 2: to address that position in the first round of the draft.

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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Speaker 2: But you talk about amazingly short sighted again, Duke Tobin

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Speaker 2: saying pass rush is king for me just reverberates through

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Speaker 2: this entire process. So you know, I wouldn't be stunned

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Speaker 2: if they take.

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Speaker 3: An edge guy. Ruben Bain's there.

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Speaker 2: You know, despite all the talk of short arms, that's

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Speaker 2: going to be a really interesting decision.

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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Speaker 2: We'll see how the first nine picks play out. We'll

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Speaker 2: see what trade down possibilities maybe the Bengals have. We'll

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Speaker 2: see what trade up possibilities maybe the Bengals have. But

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Speaker 2: you want to talk about short sighted, Hey, we've added

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Speaker 2: to our safety room and we're keeping Jordan Battles, so

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Speaker 2: we're not taking Caleb Downs. I just as short sighted

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Speaker 2: as maybe the Bengals seem to be at some time,

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Speaker 2: at some points, I just I refuse to believe that

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Speaker 2: that's going to be the case again, could be dead wrong.

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Speaker 2: Kyle Dugger signing again, Like why haven't they found that

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Speaker 2: kind of player at linebacker. That doesn't mean it's not

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Speaker 2: a good acquisition at safety, where they do have a

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Speaker 2: little bit more depth and a lot more experience than

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Speaker 2: they did this past season. Sixteen away from four o'clock,

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Speaker 2: Jason Horowitz is the voice of the Las Vegas Raiders

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Speaker 2: and the voice of the Final Four on radio, and

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Speaker 2: he'll join me next here in Indianapolis. It's the ESPN

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Speaker 2: radio broadcasts on Fox Sports thirteen sixty. I'm just glad

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Speaker 12: I haven't been back to Syracuse though, in eighteen years.

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Speaker 12: So let's see what year is this twenty six, might

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Speaker 12: be fifteen, Okay, so.

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Speaker 4: That might be more rare though, if that makes you

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Speaker 4: feel a little bit better.

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Speaker 3: Moment I work with Dan Board.

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Speaker 12: Yeah right, he goes he's gone back, goes back.

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Speaker 2: It's honored, and I like, I have to see that

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Speaker 2: the text from all the Syracuse guys. So like I

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Speaker 4: Chain though with Dan.

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Speaker 12: Dan's a little bit older than I am, but you

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Speaker 12: and I are both on the NFL. Where's a we

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Speaker 12: by play announcers. I'll share a text chain together. So

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Speaker 12: that's where I usually get a text from Dan every

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Speaker 12: now and then.

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Speaker 3: I might want to look at on that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you want to pardon it? Yeah, it's awesome. I

653
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Speaker 2: appreciate you doing this. What's final four weekend? Like from uside?

654
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Speaker 2: For the uh you know that the on air part?

655
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Speaker 12: Yeah, Well, we get here a little bit earlier than

656
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Speaker 12: everyone else because on Thursday we do our interviews with

657
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Speaker 12: all the players and coaches. That that Arizon Saturday, and

658
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Speaker 12: so we spend most of Thursday talking to the starters

659
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Speaker 12: for all.

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Speaker 4: The teams and the bench player here or there, doing

661
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Speaker 4: some features.

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Speaker 12: This morning on Friday, we're doing a feature that's gonna

663
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Speaker 12: air tomort Or in the pregame show. But I went

664
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Speaker 12: and had a conversation with Bobby Plump, who's the real

665
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Speaker 12: life basis of the movie Hoosiers Jimmy Chitwood. He's the

666
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Speaker 12: real guy, and he's got a sports bar here in

667
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Speaker 12: Indianapolis called Plump Slash Shot. It was a lot of fun.

668
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Speaker 12: He's almost ninety, his recall is unbelievable. His storytelling is

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Speaker 12: so cool. And since Brayln Mullins for Yukon is an

670
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Speaker 12: Indiana kid who hit the shot to bring his team

671
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Speaker 12: back to Indianapolis, we started the conversation by talking about

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Speaker 12: what's it like to hit a shot that no one

673
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Speaker 12: will ever forget?

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Speaker 4: And it was awesome. We had a great time.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty cool. Awesome, all right, So you have that

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Speaker 2: the matchups themselves. What do you look forward to sing

677
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Speaker 2: unfold tomorrow night.

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Speaker 12: Well, let's start with the second game. I hope that

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Speaker 12: Arizona Michigan lives up to the hype. You know, from

680
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Speaker 12: a numbers standpoint, from a statistical stamp point, from where

681
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Speaker 12: they've been all year, it feels like one of the

682
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Speaker 12: greatest Final Four games.

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Speaker 4: Ever, or it could be.

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Speaker 12: I hope it lives up to that, where they're both

685
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Speaker 12: back and forth, nobody leads by more than six points

686
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Speaker 12: either way. You know, maybe twenty lead changes, great shot

687
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Speaker 12: making to win it, that type of thing, and then,

688
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Speaker 12: you know, like to any other game, you just hope

689
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Speaker 12: both games are really good, and Illinois has an opportunity

690
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 12: with Yukon that feels like it could be a really

691
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Speaker 12: good game. Obviously, Yukon's got some magic right now, and

692
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Speaker 12: Illinois's got this. I've got this European flair, and they

693
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Speaker 12: all the guys talking to them yesterday, they know it,

694
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Speaker 12: they feel it, they like each other.

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Speaker 4: They're completely embracing.

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Speaker 12: The aspect of European basketball in the United States and

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Speaker 12: what March Madden is. Maybe they didn't know about it

698
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Speaker 12: but now really appreciate it. But also, like I think

699
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Speaker 12: they have this perspective that people in the United States

700
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Speaker 12: think that European basketball soft and they are very much

701
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Speaker 12: not that, and they're trying to live that too.

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Speaker 2: I think you have four interesting types of coaches, and

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Speaker 2: I like Dan Hurley.

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Speaker 3: Dan Hurley's a Bengals fan, so I like he is,

705
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Speaker 3: oh diehard, but he's been the ruler of the Jungle.

706
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Speaker 3: He's called our show to talk, So I'm a Dan Hurley.

707
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 4: He and Dan Horde text each other too.

708
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Speaker 3: It's funny you say that.

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Speaker 2: So at a tournament site years ago, Hurley's coaching Rhode

710
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 2: Island and like walks up to Dan and he's asking

711
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Speaker 2: about like draft possibilities and Dan's.

712
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Speaker 4: Like, what what what? Team?

713
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the Bengals made him ruler of the Jungle.

714
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Speaker 2: We reached out to you kon. Dan Hurley came on

715
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Speaker 2: and he's like talking about the team. He's a diehard fan,

716
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Speaker 2: but he's got this huge personality. I do think this

717
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Speaker 2: weekend is going to be interesting just to see what

718
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Speaker 2: the nation learns about Brad Underwood, just lifer, absolute grinder,

719
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Speaker 2: Tommy Lloyd who's now long term in Arizona, and then

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Speaker 2: obviously Dusty May as well, who the country got familiar

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Speaker 2: with a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 12: And Dusty's a really likable character. You know, even if

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Speaker 12: Michigan is I grew up in Michigan, Michigan. My brother

724
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Speaker 12: went to Michigan State, but I grew up a family

725
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Speaker 12: of Michigan fans, so it was like a mixture I

726
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Speaker 12: fully grasped by. Michigan is a not a likable figure

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Speaker 12: among schools in the Big ten over and I get that,

728
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Speaker 12: and particularly how you know Jim Harbaugh kind of added

729
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Speaker 12: that to that a little bit the last few years

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Speaker 12: before he went to the Chargers.

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Speaker 4: But like he's a likable figure. Yaxul lend the board

732
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Speaker 4: is a really likable figure.

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Speaker 12: And his story has been told a lot, but I'm

734
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Speaker 12: sure still people are getting used to it. You know,

735
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 12: a kid that was really struggling with grades. His mom

736
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Speaker 12: helped change his life. He went to Jucode during COVID

737
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 12: for a couple of years. UAB could have gone anywhere,

738
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Speaker 12: took less money to go to Michigan because he and

739
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Speaker 12: y Axtell told me yesterday, we were having this conversation

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Speaker 12: when he was at UAB playing Fau the year after

741
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Speaker 12: Fau was at the Final four. Remember Dusty stay for

742
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Speaker 12: one where he's like I asked my teammates would it

743
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Speaker 12: be wrong.

744
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 13: To ask if I could take a picture with Dusty.

745
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Speaker 12: May And we had it and I'm so we talked

746
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Speaker 12: about like is real life Dusty May playing for him

747
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 12: better or worse or different? And it was really cool conversation.

748
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 12: That'll be part of our broadcast tomorrow. He's a likable figure,

749
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Speaker 12: you know, and and I and I think that's really enjoyable.

750
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Speaker 12: Whereas like the one figure in all of this that's

751
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 12: not is Dan Hurley and you're talking about that, and

752
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 12: Alex Carabin was telling me yesterday he's kind of a

753
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 12: misunderstood figure. He's like, I'm very much Dan Hurley, so

754
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 12: I appreciate him. I'm just a lot more introverted.

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Speaker 14: I'm like, you don't say, you know, I've watched Dan

756
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Speaker 14: Hurley and Mick cron and coach against each other, so

757
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 14: we got a chance to see that earlier in this tournament.

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Speaker 2: I want to know who's the most entertaining play by

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00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: play guy on the NFL play by play guy threat?

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Speaker 12: You mean from a text chain or like in real life? Yes,

761
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Speaker 12: oh god, I have to go back and think about it.

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Speaker 12: You know, I don't know that any There's a lot,

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Speaker 12: you know, what's interesting. There's a lot of showing pictures

764
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Speaker 12: of booths and whoever is playing the Dolphins that week

765
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Speaker 12: is complaining because the Dolphins booth not only is in

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Speaker 12: the corner with a closed window that you can't open.

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Speaker 4: Anyone who's ever been your.

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Speaker 12: Listeners may not know this, but like, you want to

769
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 12: have the booth open so you can experience the stadium

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Speaker 12: and feel what it's like. And the Dolphins booth doesn't open,

771
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 12: and you're in the corner. But not only you're in

772
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 12: the corner, you're in the corner opposite TV. So you

773
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 12: have to change your mindset about the direction it's going

774
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 12: based off of what you're seeing on your monitor when

775
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 12: they're showing replays and stuff, which is interesting. So whoever's

776
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 12: playing the Dolphins is usually complaining. But what's really weird

777
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 12: to me is that the Dolphins guys never complained and

778
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 12: they're doing it nine times a year.

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Speaker 4: Brad Sham is Vocal.

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00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 3: Boys and the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: He's always on there a lot.

782
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Speaker 12: Western on the Voice of the Falcons is usually talking

783
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 12: a lot. There's a lot of really good dudes who

784
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 12: are really big in the industry here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate you doing this, man, Yeah, absolutely appreciate it. Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Jason Horowitz is the Westwood One pregame, post game and

787
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: halftime host for coverage of college basketball, obviously including the

788
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 2: Final Four this weekend, and you could hear those games

789
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Speaker 2: tomorrow and on Monday next door on Fox Sports thirteen sixty.

790
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 2: When I say next door, I mean next door from

791
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 2: the studio that we are normally and by the way,

792
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Speaker 2: we do this every single year on the Monday of

793
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 2: the National Championship game, broadcasting from Twin Peaks. You know,

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00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 2: Twin Peaks is back for the upcoming season, the home

795
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Speaker 2: of the Tony and Mo Football Show, and we're there

796
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 2: every month during the football season. But I need like

797
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 2: a Twin Peaks fix, and so we'll be there on Monday,

798
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 2: the Westchester location from three to six doing our show.

799
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Speaker 2: I just at some point, I'm just going to decide

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Speaker 2: to never do the show in studio. So here in

801
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Speaker 2: Indye the last couple of days Twin Peaks on Monday,

802
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 2: looking forward to it. Let's see, we're here till six o'clock.

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Speaker 2: It's radio row at the Final Four. A number of

804
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Speaker 2: coaches making the rounds yesterday and today. One of them

805
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: is Jake Diebler, the head coach at Ohio State. The

806
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Speaker 2: buck guys made the tournament this year. Gonna say goodbye

807
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Speaker 2: to Bruce Thornton. This offseason, we'll talk with Jake about

808
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: how he plans to move on without the pro program's

809
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 2: all time leading score. We'll have that conversation when we

810
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Speaker 2: come back. It's coming up on four o'clock. My name

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Speaker 2: is Mawegar. This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 4: Any Eddie's Sports Station, ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: All right four. This is ESPN fifteen thirty. Good Afternoon

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Speaker 2: on mowegor on having an awesome Friday afternoon, good start

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Speaker 2: to the weekend. This is the ESPN fifteen thirty Ernst

816
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Speaker 2: and Associate's Final Four Show. We are presented today by

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Speaker 2: Duimatt dot com. DUI Matt is on the front lines

818
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: of your legal battle. We are broadcasting from the airport

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Speaker 2: paint and body quality of yesterday, Knowledge of today broadcast

820
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Speaker 2: area from here in Indianapolis, just down the street from

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Speaker 2: Lucas Oil Stadium, where the Final Four will be held tomorrow.

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00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: Indy buzzing with fans, as you might imagine. Illinois fans

823
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Speaker 2: seem to have taken over the downtown area. You certainly

824
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Speaker 2: might imagine that. And you know I said this on

825
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Speaker 2: our show yesterday in Cincinnati. We're supposed to look down

826
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Speaker 2: our noses at other regional cities, cities that were compared

827
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Speaker 2: to India's cool man.

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Speaker 3: It's cool if you come up for like.

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Speaker 2: A Bengals Colts game, or a Pacers game, even though

830
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: the Pacers aren't very good this year, or a show

831
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Speaker 2: at the Pacers Arena, which I'm not being paid to

832
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: mention the name of it. It's cool for events like this.

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00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: I was lucky enough fifteen years ago to do our

834
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Speaker 2: show from Radio Row at the Super Bowl, and it's

835
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Speaker 2: just It's got a great downtown and always equipped to

836
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Speaker 2: handle events like this. There's a reason why folks love

837
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Speaker 2: coming here for the Combine, the NFL Combine every late

838
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Speaker 2: February early March, and a great host to this event.

839
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Speaker 2: This weekend, Red's are about to get underway in Texas.

840
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 2: It is the home opener for the Rangers. Brady Singer

841
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: is pitching for Cincinnati. We will obviously keep you up

842
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: to date on how that game is unfolding throughout the

843
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: course of the afternoon CEE. Cincinnati is coming off the

844
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Speaker 2: winter break, getting set to play in New York tomorrow.

845
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Speaker 2: Steve Cangelosi has that match for Apple TV. He is

846
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Speaker 2: gonna join us coming up in just about fifteen minutes

847
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 2: plus Brenneman and Jones on baseball, and I don't know

848
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: if we're gonna have time to squeeze in some phone calls.

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Speaker 2: I've had some emails suggesting we take some phone calls.

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Speaker 2: I'll see what we can do. If I do, I'll

851
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: throw out the phone number right now. Though Jake Diebler

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00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: is with us, the head coach at Ohio State. The

853
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: Buckeyes made the NCAA Tournament this year. It's it's awesome

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00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: of you to sit down, and I appreciate it. You've

855
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Speaker 2: got You've had the the enviable task of coaching Bruce

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Speaker 2: Thornton over the last couple of years, a player that

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Speaker 2: I've become a big fan of, and now you've got

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Speaker 2: to figure out a way to coach without them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Well, I think we got a great foundation with a

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Speaker 13: Mary Byingham and John Mobley Junior coming back, really excited

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Speaker 13: about you know, Anthony Thompson, who's from down in that

863
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 13: area right. McDonald's all American joining us next year. So

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Speaker 13: I love the foundation we have. But yeah, we got

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Speaker 13: to be aggressive in the portal and kind of finish

866
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Speaker 13: out the roster the right way.

867
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 4: But it's gonna it's gonna take some getting used to.

868
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 13: But I love just the guys we got coming back,

869
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 13: So we'll we'll.

870
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 3: Build it from there, all right. But we're gonna talk

871
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 3: about Bruce.

872
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 2: Huge fan and for a lot of different reasons, not

873
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: the least of which is not many guys like that

874
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: that stick around long enough to be come in programs,

875
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 2: all time leading scorer, and I know you quote inherited

876
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: him as a head coach, but just what made him special?

877
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 4: Well, I recruited him, you know, I was.

878
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 13: I was talking to him every single day since before

879
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 13: his junior year of high school, and and so the

880
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 13: relationship we had is special. What makes Bruce special as

881
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 13: a player, You know you hear the same every day, guys,

882
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 13: Bruce is an every rep guy.

883
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 4: Every single rep he goes hard.

884
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 13: He he has gotten better every single year. Like you

885
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 13: don't hear about development as much anymore. He's developed, And

886
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 13: he's right, he's what everything that's right about college basketball, like,

887
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 13: that's him.

888
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 4: And so.

889
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 13: He's we can do a whole segment on him, right,

890
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 13: but he just the way he works. He's a talented player,

891
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 13: certainly he's tough, he's got all the characters that you

892
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 13: want in a point guard. And you know, when you're

893
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 13: a head coach and you're for the first time, I

894
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 13: was looking around saying, Okay, who's going to help me

895
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 13: establish a new standard right and get Ohio State basketball

896
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 13: move in the direction he needs to. Bruce was the

897
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 13: first guy I went to, and so we've kind of

898
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 13: built it from there.

899
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: Before we look ahead, let's look back.

900
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 2: The season was weird because it felt like every time

901
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 2: you're about to get going, you slip up. And it

902
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 2: kind of felt like every time the season was going

903
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 2: to go sideways, you pull yourselves off the mat. And

904
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 2: then at the very end you had that three game

905
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: winning streak at the end of the regular season beat Purdue.

906
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 3: When you look back, how do you sort of encapsulate

907
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 3: the year that was?

908
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 4: We had a resilient group.

909
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 13: You know, you're right, like every time we felt like

910
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 13: we were getting some momentum, someone would get hurt or

911
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 13: someone missed a game because they were sick. I mean,

912
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 13: you couldn't make it up, and then you know, we

913
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 13: would win, and then we'd be faced with new adversity

914
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 13: and make no mistake, the Big Ten is an absolute gauntlet.

915
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 13: It's the deepest league in the country, So that has

916
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 13: something to do with you know, I think our win

917
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 13: lot we had it was like people come pass, we

918
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 13: keep winning and losing, winning and losing, and you know,

919
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 13: I'm like, I don't really look at it that way, right,

920
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 13: but I think what I look back and reflect on

921
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 13: this team, we had a resilient group who stayed close,

922
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 13: had real chemistry, and when we got healthy and we

923
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 13: were able to stay healthy, we were able to take off.

924
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 13: I wish it would have happened a little earlier. We

925
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 13: would have been, you know, had a better seed. But

926
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 13: you know, we we got off the bubble, like we

927
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 13: weren't a bubble team no more.

928
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 4: And you know, our resiliency was a big part of that, all.

929
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 2: Right, from your perspective. Two Big Ten teams playing this weekend.

930
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 2: I've remarked to a few different coaches what impressed me

931
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: about Illinois in the tournament was they out Houston Houston.

932
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: I knew offensively they were talented. I knew they can

933
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: go get it off the glass, they don't turn it

934
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 2: over a bunch, But it's what they did defensively in

935
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 2: that game that stood out to me having seen the

936
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 2: Aliane I up close. What's going to be the big

937
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: challenge for Yukon.

938
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 13: You know, I think dealing with their size, and it's

939
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 13: not just at the center position. I think can be

940
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 13: big really across the board. That certainly you know, allows

941
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 13: them to be disruptive defensively and you know they can

942
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 13: protect the rim.

943
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 4: They rebound really well.

944
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 13: You know, I think people because of their three point

945
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 13: shooting and things like, people immediately talk about their offense,

946
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 13: but their defense has been really good, and you know,

947
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 13: coach Underwood's a ton of great job with this team.

948
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 4: They have depth, Like when they sub they're really good. Yea.

949
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 13: So I think that depth is something that you know,

950
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 13: allows them to play at a high level on both

951
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 13: sides of the ball too.

952
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to say some nice things about Michigan

953
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: I guess, But similar challenges for Arizona tomorrow night.

954
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean again the size, Right you look at.

955
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 13: The team up north, I'll say, you look at you

956
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 13: look at their size and their versatility defensively, like you

957
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 13: essentially have to scheme for two separate defenses, you know,

958
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 13: with Mara and Johnson out there on the court at

959
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 13: the same time.

960
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 15: Then when they take Mare out and they can they

961
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 15: can switch one through five at that point, I think

962
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 15: what Yaxull has has done from the standpoint of, you know,

963
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 15: seemingly sacrificing what he maybe individually could do to help

964
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 15: the betterment of that team has been impressive.

965
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 4: So both teams rebound really well.

966
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 13: Both teams have an ability to hang a ton of

967
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 13: points on the board, and I think that's going to

968
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 13: be a problem, present a real problem for Arizona.

969
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: And you kind of you mentioned what you have to

970
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 2: start by building next year's team, but portal opens up

971
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 2: next week. Do you have a checklist where you go,

972
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 2: these are the two positions I need or here's what

973
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 2: I the roles I.

974
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 3: Want to fill.

975
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 2: Is it just grabbing talent and then just try to

976
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 2: make the pieces fit.

977
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 3: What's the approach?

978
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 4: We want fit? But we need talented fit. Right.

979
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 13: We got to add some size and we got to

980
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 13: add you know, some some real depth in our backcourt.

981
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 13: And so I feel really good about where we're at

982
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 13: and kind of the between part. I like versatility, you know,

983
00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 13: so having more size helps with that. But again, like

984
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 13: we're going to have to go in and get some

985
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 13: starter quality in the portal, but also continue to shape

986
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 13: up our depth in the portal as well. So it's

987
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 13: going to be an important, you know, few weeks that

988
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 13: you will benefit from for the rest of the season.

989
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 13: But I love again where we're starting at, going into

990
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 13: the portal. I think that's always really really important. Some

991
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 13: team's got to go turn around seven, eight, nine, you know,

992
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 13: spots we're not, we don't have to do that.

993
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 4: So that's a great place to start.

994
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got to be the envy of so many

995
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 2: of your peers where you go into the off season,

996
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: and at the very least, like I'm starting from here,

997
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: here's who I have, and that foundation's really.

998
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:41,919
Speaker 13: Good, absolutely absolutely, And you know it's why we put

999
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 13: such a value on relationships because what we've seen is

1000
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 13: that matters and retention.

1001
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 4: And so we'll.

1002
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 13: Continue to put relationships at the forefront of our program,

1003
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 13: and we'll continue to push guys to help them develop

1004
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 13: because part of the reason guys want to say it

1005
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 13: because they feel like they're getting better. And Ohio State's

1006
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 13: a special place that helps two. But you know, we'll

1007
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 13: always be a program that kind of builds and takes

1008
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 13: care of its own and then adds the right pieces

1009
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 13: to that to help us push towards the championship.

1010
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 2: So Jake Deebler, the head coach at Ohio State, kind

1011
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: enough to join us. We appreciate the time joining us

1012
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 2: here in Indianapolis Radio Row at the NABC Convention. Reds

1013
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 2: don't score in the top of the first inning, three up,

1014
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: three down against Mackenzie Gore. Brady Singer said to take

1015
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Speaker 2: the hill Reds playing the first road game of the season,

1016
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: the home opener for the Rangers, who won four of

1017
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 2: their first six.

1018
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 3: On the road.

1019
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 2: Quota rap for four on ESPN fifteen thirty. We've been

1020
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: sort of knee deep in college basketball with an eye

1021
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 2: on baseball. FC Cincinnati is coming off an international break.

1022
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 2: I feel like looking for a reset. Can they hit

1023
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 2: the reset button against New York tomorrow? Steve Cangelosi has

1024
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: the call for Apple TV. He'll join us when we

1025
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 2: come back on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 3: This is ESPN fifteen to thirty Mouegger.

1039
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Speaker 2: I cannot imagine there were many teams in Major League

1040
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 2: Soccer who needed a break more than FC Cincinnati, just

1041
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 2: because the sheer volume of games they had played since

1042
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Speaker 2: the start of the season. I'm not sure there's a

1043
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 2: team who needed what FC Cincinnati did on the pitch

1044
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 2: in its last game more than FC Cincinnati, a thrilling

1045
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 2: come from behind win over Montreal. They had to come

1046
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 2: from behind three times. Kevin Denke with the game winner

1047
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 2: for the Orange and Blue. Can you imagine how the

1048
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 2: international break would have felt had they lost that one.

1049
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 2: On the heels of the previous couple of matches. They

1050
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 2: take on Red Bull New York tomorrow. It's a roadmatch

1051
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 2: for FC Cincinnati. Steve Cangelosi has the call for Apple

1052
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 2: TV and as always kind enough to join us.

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00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 3: Steve, good to have you. How are you nice to you?

1054
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 3: Hear from you?

1055
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 11: Mo and my Cincinnati Reds. They couldn't get the opening day.

1056
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 16: Version of Paul Skins last night.

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Speaker 11: Oh well, I didn't see the game, but I am

1058
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 11: aware of what happened.

1059
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 2: Well, you know, when when you give up a three

1060
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 2: spot in the first inning against Paul Skiings, I think

1061
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 2: the outcome, unfortunately, was was almost almost inevitable. I'll tell

1062
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 2: you speaking of inevitability, and I'll make it about FC

1063
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 2: Cincinnati's last game before the International break, with the way

1064
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 2: they had played. You know, they were down a man

1065
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 2: against Montreal for much of that game. They fall behind

1066
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 2: three different times. A loss in that game felt inevitable.

1067
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 2: I'm kind of curious just watching tomorrow to see if

1068
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 2: there's any any emotional carry overgiven the amount of time

1069
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 2: between games, but also given how they won that game

1070
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Speaker 2: against Montreal.

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Speaker 11: It's such a hard thing to predict, right because two

1072
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 11: weeks go by since the emotional finish and Kevin Dankate

1073
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 11: giving them exactly what they needed in that moment. This

1074
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 11: is such a hard game to piece together tomorrow night,

1075
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 11: Quite frankly, because we have a Miles Robinson who's suspended,

1076
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 11: a Roman Celentano that we're not expecting to play, and

1077
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 11: how they play this tomorrow night, I think is going

1078
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 11: to be something of a mystery leading right up until

1079
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 11: first kick. But yes, the remedy itself of getting the three.

1080
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 3: Points was important.

1081
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Speaker 11: I'm not reading too much into this first month of

1082
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 11: the season in terms of the table in Major League

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Speaker 11: Soccer MO, they've balanced a lot. Conca CAFF is a

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00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 11: big balance for every team that competes in the tournament

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Speaker 11: COCKACAFF Champions Cup. Nine matches in thirty two days, I

1086
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Speaker 11: think will start, if it's not to very.

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Speaker 3: Soon, I think we'll start to see this team settle in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree, and I'll sort of give Pat

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00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 2: Noonan the benefit of it out although and no you

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00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: pay attention. It's been interesting to me, and this is

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00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 2: more of a statement than it is a question. It's

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00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 2: been interesting to me to just sort of gauge his

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00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 2: level of exasperation or bewilderment, because for the first time

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00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 2: in his tenure, it is felt like he's looking to

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00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 2: the heaven searching for ideas on how to get this

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Speaker 2: thing turned around.

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Speaker 11: I think it's a level of frustration more than anything else.

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Speaker 11: And I think it stems.

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Speaker 3: From two different things.

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Speaker 11: Number one, the inability to get his first choice keeper

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00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 11: and his preferred three center backs on the field at

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Speaker 11: the same time, okay, because injury and suspension have gotten

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Speaker 11: in the path of that. And then the other thing

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Speaker 11: is Evander because he is far and away the most

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Speaker 11: important player on the team, and it's been stop and

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Speaker 11: start for him. Right he gets hurt fifteen minutes into

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00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 11: the season, he kind of has very little role, if any,

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Speaker 11: over the course of the next two games. And here

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Speaker 11: we are a guy who's lights out each of the

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00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 11: last two seasons. I think he was a bona fide

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Speaker 11: MVP candidate each of the last two years, and there's

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Speaker 11: one goal contribution for him so far. I think that

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00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,919
Speaker 11: will flip. I think it'll be interesting to see how

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Speaker 11: this plays out tomorrow. Both of these teams have big issues.

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Speaker 4: Defending right now.

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00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 11: It would not surprise me if we see a lot

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Speaker 11: of goals going into each net.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I was going to ask about New York

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00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 2: because we saw a lot of goals for Charlotte in

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Speaker 2: New York's last match, they fell six to one winless

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Speaker 2: in their last three. It's kind of gone sideways a

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00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 2: little bit for New York. What's been the biggest issue.

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Speaker 11: Defense, and it's a similar issue with Cincinnati and that

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00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 11: they played their last game I believe without their preferred

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Speaker 11: two center backs, which would be Justin Shay and Dylan Nilis.

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00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 11: Now Nilas is getting close to coming back from injury,

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00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 11: that would help tomorrow. There's a lot going on in

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Speaker 11: New York in terms of the transformation of the team.

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Speaker 11: They have a first year coach in Michael Bradley, who's

1130
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 11: never coached a first team prior to this year. MLS

1131
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 11: Next Pro Championship for the Man last season. But they're

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00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 11: changing the system, they're changing the coach. They've changed over

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00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 11: a lot of starters. I mean, there are variables to this,

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00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 11: but basically it's seven new starters from last year. That's

1135
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 11: a lot and I think they're in this situation where

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00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 11: the first third of the season, if they find themselves

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00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 11: treading water as a five hundred team, then I think

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00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 11: we're looking at something good. This is a very different

1139
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 11: Red Bull team from the ones MLS is known in

1140
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 11: recent years under Jesse Marsh and a lot of.

1141
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 4: The other coaches.

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Speaker 11: They value the ball. They're going to have more of

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00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 11: the ball than Cincinnati Tomorrod their top two possession in

1144
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 11: the league, and if Cincinnati wins this game, it's going

1145
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 11: to be because of what electrifying players like Evander do

1146
00:55:58,880 --> 00:55:59,760
Speaker 11: on counter attacks.

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00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 2: To me, Steve Cangelosi, Apple TV has the match tomorrow,

1148
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 2: Cincinnati on the road against Red Bull New York. You

1149
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 2: mentioned this time of year, don't really pay attention to

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00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 2: the table, which I'm not gonna because it's been a

1151
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 2: while since I've looked at the Eastern Conference and seen

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00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 2: Cincinnati middle of the pack. Give me a snapshot to

1153
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 2: the stage of the season, at least of the Eastern Conference.

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Speaker 11: Well, the Eastern Conference is a conversation that begins with

1155
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 11: the reigning champions enter Miami, right, I think that's only

1156
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 11: fair to throw that out there to start the conversation.

1157
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 11: What is the standard of excellence right now in the East?

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00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 11: I don't see any way you make the argument other

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Speaker 11: than that. But I also don't think it's a fair

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Speaker 11: of complete that they're going to go away and finish

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Speaker 11: in first place. There are a lot of variables to this.

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Speaker 3: This year.

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Speaker 11: It's a World Cup year for players like Leonel Messi

1164
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 11: and probably Rodrigo de Paul, who, by the way, has

1165
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 11: been something less than what we expect from the Argentine

1166
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Speaker 11: World Cup champion from a couple of years ago. But

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Speaker 11: I think FC Cincinnati will be there in that conversation,

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00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 11: and New York City FC is the other team I

1169
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 11: think to look out for because they're very well coached

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00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:18,439
Speaker 11: under Pascal Jansen, and it would shock me if when

1171
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 11: all is said and done, they're not a top three

1172
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Speaker 11: team in the Eastern Conference.

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Speaker 4: They're already good.

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00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 11: And you're going to see a player like Alonso Martinez,

1175
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 11: the Costa Rican who scored seventeen goals last year, come back.

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Speaker 4: From injury later this year.

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Speaker 11: They're going to be a hard, hard out at some point.

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Speaker 11: But I'll put Miami, or rather Cincinnati in that group

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Speaker 11: of top three or top four when the dust really

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Speaker 11: settles here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that still seems to be the consensus, and we

1182
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 2: certainly hope so.

1183
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 2: FC Cincinnati on the road against Red Bull New York

1185
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 2: seven thirty tomorrow, Apple TV.

1186
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 3: Steve, have a great call. We'll do it again soon, man,

1187
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Speaker 3: Thanks so.

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00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 11: Much, Thanks me, have a good weekend, bye bye.

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Speaker 2: Most definitely Steve Cangelosi, Apple tv FC Cincinnati and Red

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Speaker 2: Bold New you are tomorrow. This is the ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 2: an eye on the Red. Spencer Steer with a two

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Speaker 2: run homer in the top of the second inning, driving

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Speaker 2: in at Uhaneo Souarez and the Reds have given Brady

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Speaker 2: Singer a couple of runs early to nothing. Cincinnati Red

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Speaker 2: still batting in the top of the second inning in Texas,

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Speaker 2: trying to get the seven game road trip off to

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Speaker 2: a bang up start. It is twenty eight minutes after

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Speaker 2: four o'clock. For the first time in a while, we

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Speaker 2: Reds are playing the Rangers in Arlington at a ballpark

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Speaker 2: that I would love to go to. It point Spencer

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Speaker 2: Steer with a two run homer in the top of

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Speaker 2: the second inning has given Brady Singer a to nothing lead.

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Speaker 2: Mackenzie Gore on the hill for Texas, first of a

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Speaker 2: seven game road trip three in Texas this weekend. Red's

1240
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Speaker 2: trying to get above the five hundred mark after losing

1241
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Speaker 2: the last two at home against Pittsburgh again to nothing.

1242
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 2: Good guys in the in the bottom of the second

1243
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Speaker 2: inning with the Ranger. I have so many damn pieces

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Speaker 2: of paper here. I know nobody cares. You just heard

1245
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Speaker 2: Steve Cangelosi from Apple TVFC Cincinnati hits the road tomorrow

1246
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Speaker 2: for a match against New York. Tonight on Fox Sports

1247
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 2: thirteen sixty. You could check out the women's final four

1248
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 2: South Carolina versus Yukon, Texas and UCLA. How come nobody

1249
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 2: complains about the women's side being chalky four number one seeds,

1250
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 2: you know, like men's college basket. But like, maybe I'm

1251
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 2: guilty of this that there there's never like contentment with

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01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 2: what's going on. If it's if it's a tournament filled

1253
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Speaker 2: with upsets, we complain that it's it's too upset heavy,

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01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 2: and then it's it gets to be sort of chalky

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Speaker 2: and there's too many blue bloods and in the final

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Speaker 2: four on the men's side, which by the way, you

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Speaker 2: could also listen to on Fox Sports thirteen sixty. We

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Speaker 2: have two ones, and we have a two and a three.

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Speaker 2: Maybe college basketball fans just like to complain. You could

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Speaker 2: hear all the college hoops this weekend on Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: thirteen sixty. Hockey tonight. The Cyclones play tonight and tom

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01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 2: tomorrow against toh in State Line, Nevada. By the way,

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Speaker 2: the subject will come up, and I'm sure has already

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01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 2: this week in some circles about should the men's tournament

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01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 2: or I guess the women's tournament, should there be receding

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Speaker 2: because you do have Michigan Arizona, which I believe the

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Speaker 2: Final four is always highly anticipated. I think, and I

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01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 2: think like basketball junkies maybe more than anybody else. I

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01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 2: think that semi final is the most highly anticipated just

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Speaker 2: basketball matchup that we've had in this event in a while.

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Speaker 2: The most popular thing about the NCAA Tournament is the bracket,

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Speaker 2: and we're probably going to expand, which is going to

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Speaker 2: change how the bracket looks, and expansion is stupid. But

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Speaker 2: the thing people love most about this event is the bracket.

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Speaker 2: If you recede, you basically blow up the bracket. Don't

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Speaker 2: blow up the bracket. Illinois Yukon will be I think

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Speaker 2: terrific as well. Twenty three away from five o'clock, Brenneman

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Speaker 2: and Jones on Baseball is coming up in about fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 2: It's the ESPN fifteen thirty Earnthen Associate's Final Four Show,

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Speaker 2: presented by duimatt dot com live from the Airport Paint

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Speaker 2: and Body broadcast area here in Indy. I believe we

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Speaker 2: have is it Frankie. Frankie went away. He was about

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Speaker 2: to take his phone call and he went away. That's

1284
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 2: a bummer. Jared Calhoun, we had him earlier today from

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Speaker 2: here in Indianapolis the head coach of the Bearcats, and

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Speaker 2: that's been podcast. If you want to catch that, it's

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Speaker 2: available on the iHeartRadio app and on my page at

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty dot com. I'll say this about him,

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Speaker 2: and I feel like there has been almost complete and

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Speaker 2: total uniform enthusiasm for him being hired at UC. There's

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Speaker 2: been a complete and total welcome from those who care

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Speaker 2: about the program. He has been talked about like he's

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Speaker 2: a member of the Bearcat family, and that can't it

1294
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 2: certainly doesn't guarantee success, but it can't be anything but helpful.

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Speaker 2: He does come off as a guy who is pretty

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Speaker 2: calculated and how he attends to build the roster, and

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Speaker 2: I think this is important. We've talked a lot about timing,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I joked with him from his perspective.

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Speaker 2: You know, ideally his Utah State team wins and advances

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Speaker 2: to the Sweet sixteen, and maybe that puts off his

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Speaker 2: being hired by the University of Cincinnati. But I think

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Speaker 2: the timing of this, and though it might not be fair,

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Speaker 2: there's always comparisons made between a new head coach and

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Speaker 2: his predecessors. It often feels like and I think certainly

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Speaker 2: did with Wes and with John Brannon that they were

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Speaker 2: playing ketchup because of the timing and playing ketchup because

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Speaker 2: of not only the timing with which they got the job,

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Speaker 2: but the timing of the transfer portal opening. I think

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Speaker 2: here it's even if you don't love this version of

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Speaker 2: college basketball, the timing really does work in UC's favor,

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Speaker 2: especially if there's alignment between the established general manager and

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Speaker 2: the new head coach, and especially if you know the

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Speaker 2: new staff is well organized and approaches the portal with

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Speaker 2: a specific plan. Again, you got to get guys to say, yes,

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Speaker 2: the money's got to fit. But it really does feel

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Speaker 2: like there's I've used the term good runway, but I

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Speaker 2: believe it's true. There's a really good runway to have

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Speaker 2: some short term success where it doesn't feel like it's

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Speaker 2: being cobbled together, either the staff or the roster. Your

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01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 2: guess is as good as mine as to who's going

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Speaker 2: to be on the team this coming season. The time

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Speaker 2: will tell, but it really does feel like because of

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Speaker 2: just the timing of this and the NCAA getting it

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Speaker 2: right with moving portal.

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Speaker 3: Back into l after the tournament is over.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not naive to the fact that you know,

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Speaker 2: the portal officially opens. That doesn't mean that players aren't

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Speaker 2: talking with schools. I'm not naive to that, but it

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Speaker 2: does feel like relative to other programs, and relative to

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Speaker 2: even some things we've seen at you see that there

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Speaker 2: really is an environment that lends itself to having some

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Speaker 2: success in Jared Calhoun's first season at the University of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: And not only that, Like, I think West did a

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Speaker 2: good job under some rough circumstances of extending olive branches

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Speaker 2: to Bearcat players of the past and trying to unite everybody,

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Speaker 2: but it did feel like, with respect to the previous

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Speaker 2: two coaches that were hired, that a lot of the

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Speaker 2: folks who make up Bearcat basketball royalty kind of had

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Speaker 2: to be sold. I don't know that there's any of that.

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Speaker 2: I know there's not been any of that with Jared Calhoun.

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Speaker 2: It just it feels like the transition has been smooth.

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Speaker 2: It feels like it's been teamless, and that can't be

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Speaker 2: anything but helpful for not just the long term prospects

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Speaker 2: of the program, but the first season we'll see, you know,

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Speaker 2: we'll obviously see I'm sure there will be bumps in

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Speaker 2: the road, both during the off season but also once

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Speaker 2: you know the season actually begins.

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Speaker 3: But it really does feel like.

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Speaker 2: They're they're set up to kind of hit the ground running,

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Speaker 2: and that's that's refreshing. And we've seen a lot of

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Speaker 2: really good college basketball programs and a lot of really

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Speaker 2: good college basketball coaches struggle either in year one or

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Speaker 2: in some cases year two, just because of how hard

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Speaker 2: it is to adjust on the fly and play catch

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Speaker 2: up and have the timing work against you. And that

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Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily seem like that's going to be the case

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Speaker 2: at the University of Cincinnati. Again, if you missed Jared Calhoun,

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Speaker 2: that conversation is available on the iHeartRadio app. Could also

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Speaker 2: go to my page at ESPN fifteen thirty dot com.

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Speaker 2: Five point three seven four nine fifteen thirty is our

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Speaker 2: phone number. By the way, the Rangers have tied that

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Speaker 2: ballgame in Arlington at two apiece, Brady Singer giving up

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Speaker 2: a couple of runs, giving up a two run hit

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Speaker 2: to Danny Jansen, not the former Channel nine and Channel

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Speaker 2: twelve sports anchor, but the catcher for the Rangers. Two

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Speaker 2: run single ties the game of two, so Reds two

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Speaker 2: Rangers two. As the Reds gets up to come to

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Speaker 2: the plate. In the top of the third inning, a

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Speaker 2: local program, but I think he has a really interesting

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Speaker 2: story and the Bearcats actually ended his college career. That

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Speaker 2: is coming up in the five o'clock hour on ESPN

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Speaker 2: So I did not go to fan Fest, but maybe

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Speaker 2: when I'm done here at six o'clock, we're gonna chat

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Speaker 2: with Robbie Hummel, the former Purdue Boilermaker who is the

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Speaker 2: color analyst for Westwood One obviously does Big ten Network

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Speaker 2: in Fox and CBS and does. It's been fun watching

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Speaker 2: his star rise very very quickly, because it feels like

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Speaker 2: about a year ago I was still watching him play

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Speaker 2: for the boiler Makers. Earlier today, we had Jared Calhoun

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Speaker 2: on the show the Head Coach at U see Jake

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Speaker 2: Diebler stop by the Ohio State Head Coach, and those

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Speaker 2: will be if they're not already available on the iHeartRadio

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Speaker 2: at Reds are playing the Rangers right now. It's the

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Speaker 2: home opener for Texas. It's a two to two with

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Speaker 2: the Rangers hitting in the bottom of the fourth inning.

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01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 2: Both teams scored twice in the second. Spencer Steer with

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Speaker 2: his first home run of the spring, our home run

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Speaker 2: of the season, a two run shot, gave the Reds

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Speaker 2: a two nothing lead. Unfortunately, Brady Singer gave both runs

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Speaker 2: back Danny Jansen with a two run double for Texas,

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Speaker 2: so we're deadlock to two in the fourth inning, Texas

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Speaker 2: getting set to come to the plate. Reds playing the

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Speaker 2: first road game of the season. The big news as

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Speaker 2: it relates to the Reds is that we don't know

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Speaker 2: what's next for Nickolodolo. Nicko Lodolo pulled from his rehab

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Speaker 2: start last night with the recurring blister issue, and you

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Speaker 2: feel for him because, by his account, they've tried every remedy,

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01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,759
Speaker 2: they've tried everything that everybody has suggested. They don't believe

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01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 2: apparently that change his grip is going to have any

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Speaker 2: impact on his just inability to stop getting blisters. And

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Speaker 2: you kind of chuckle at it, because we all get blisters,

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01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 2: but blisters do prevent pitchers from the There's a long

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01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 2: list of great pitchers who have been pulled from games

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01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 2: they're pitching well in because of blister issues, maybe most

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Speaker 2: notably Roger Clemens in Game six of the nineteen.

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Speaker 3: Eighty six World Series.

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Speaker 2: So, from a Reds perspective, like the strongest part of

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Speaker 2: this team is supposed to be the starting pitching, and

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Speaker 2: I'm going to imagine that Nicolodola is still going to

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Speaker 2: pitch sooner than.

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Speaker 3: Hunter Green is.

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Speaker 2: But right now you're without two guys who nothing against

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Speaker 2: Andrew Abbitt, nothing against Chase Burns or anybody else. You

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01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 2: can make an argument that Hunter Green and Nicolodola are

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Speaker 2: the best two pitchers. Nicolodola when he was on the

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01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 2: mound last year was terrific. And the Reds do have

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01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 2: the benefit of very good pitching depth and some just

1456
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 2: built in options for when guys aren't available, But you're

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01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 2: testing that depth awfully early, and you're a lying a

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Speaker 2: lot on guys who are very short on experience, and

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Speaker 2: with Nick, unfortunately, and I'm no skincare expert, we're kind

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Speaker 2: of to the point where with every appearance, maybe every

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Speaker 2: pitch you're wondering, is the blister issue gonna pop up again?

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Speaker 2: Worth paying attention to in the coming days. We've been

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Speaker 2: heavy on the college basketball obviously yesterday and today with

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Speaker 2: the final four, I think we're in store for an

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Speaker 2: awesome men's Final four tomorrow. The Michigan Arizona game, I

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Speaker 2: said this last hour, for my money, is one of

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Speaker 2: the most anticipated national semifinal games that I can recall.

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Speaker 2: But Illinois and Yukon, if you want to call it,

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Speaker 2: the undercard, is a hell of an undercard. And it

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Speaker 2: is interesting that the Connecticut Huskies in a day and

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Speaker 2: age where you know, it feels like it's I don't

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Speaker 2: want to say more and more difficult to maintain excellence

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Speaker 2: in this sport, because a lot of programs do. But

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Speaker 2: for all the talk of the unending turnover and how

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Speaker 2: hard it is to maintain success and be good every

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Speaker 2: single year, Yukon is two wins away. And for my money,

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Speaker 2: I think Illinois is gonna win tomorrow. Yukon is two

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Speaker 2: wins away from three titles in four years. Think of

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Speaker 2: all of the coaches, and you might not like Dan Hurley,

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Speaker 2: Think of all of the great coaches who have never

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Speaker 2: even come close to achieving that much. Last three final

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Speaker 2: fours in four years, I think we're in store for

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01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:39,600
Speaker 2: a great pair of national semifinals tomorrow. We got a

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Speaker 2: college basketball coach who's not a local guy, but a

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Speaker 2: local team ended his career. And he's also got a

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Speaker 2: really interesting story in terms of how he got into

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Speaker 2: coaching because he didn't do it in college. That coming

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Speaker 2: up in just about thirty minutes. In the meantime, we'll

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Speaker 2: take a phone call or two. Our friend Mike is

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Speaker 2: standing by Mike.

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Speaker 3: It's been a while. You're on ESPN fifteen.

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Speaker 16: Thirty Fine, Well, you know, is it fun up there

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Speaker 16: in India? Are you having a good time?

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Speaker 3: I'm having a blast.

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Speaker 16: Yes, that's really cool because I knew when you talked

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Speaker 16: about Super Bowl radio where you were like never again ever.

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Speaker 16: So this is a new different type of deal.

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Speaker 2: Right, It's uh, this is a little bit more radio

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Speaker 2: e And you know, I mean you're you're not being

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Speaker 2: stuck interviewing a washed up former football player, so he

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Speaker 2: could talk about you know.

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Speaker 3: Hand ointment.

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Speaker 2: You know, they they they've given us guests that are

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Speaker 2: relevant to my audience. Trey Carroll yesterday, Jared Calhoun today,

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Speaker 2: Jake Diebler and or guests that maybe at first mentioned

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Speaker 2: aren't that relevant to my audience, but I think after

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Speaker 2: our audience, here's here's them, they will go, well, okay,

1508
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 2: that person was worth putting on. I've done radio road

1509
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 2: at the Super Bowl, and I've done radio ro at

1510
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 2: the Final four. Radio road at the Super Bowl is

1511
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 2: not fun. This is this is actually pretty cool.

1512
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,839
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's better than an ice chests in Santa Monica

1513
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:18,640
Speaker 16: Barney's beanery.

1514
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,879
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I mean I'd kill for the Bengals

1515
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 2: to go back to the Super Bowl so I could

1516
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:27,679
Speaker 2: broadcast from wherever they are. But yeah, I mean, here

1517
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 2: you have people who are kind of helping you out

1518
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 2: and running running you guests and taking care of you

1519
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 2: and feeding you, and.

1520
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 3: So it's it's this is this is a this is

1521
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 3: a cool experience.

1522
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 16: Thanks for tell I just wanted to get a feel

1523
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 16: for it, So thank you. Well. I am worried about

1524
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 16: this U this blister thing, because, oh man, I talked

1525
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:51,680
Speaker 16: to a couple of doctors this past week at the VA,

1526
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 16: one of them the dermatologists about that. He gave me

1527
01:16:56,760 --> 01:17:01,599
Speaker 16: a little time and based on the body chemistry and

1528
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 16: the makeup of your skin and all these things, it

1529
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 16: can be it can be, you know, almost impossible to

1530
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 16: deal with if you're a picture And that's what he told.

1531
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 2: Me, especially when it's a you know, a reoccurring issue.

1532
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 2: You know, he has been on the injured list multiple

1533
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 2: times over the last two seasons with a blister on

1534
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 2: his index finger as a minor leaguer in twenty twenty one,

1535
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 2: spend time on the injured list with an issue, a

1536
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 2: blister issue with his his index finger, And like his

1537
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 2: direct quote was all the quote known cures I've definitely tried,

1538
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:41,440
Speaker 2: and so like now they're in experimentation mode and I'm

1539
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 2: not going to pretend to be an expert on anything,

1540
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 2: much less blisters or skincare. But I could read and

1541
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 2: almost just feel the frustration and exasperation that Nick must

1542
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 2: be dealing with that this keeps popping up and they've

1543
01:17:56,840 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 2: tried so many different things and it hasn't it hasn't

1544
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 2: been rectified. I'm sure he's frustrated. I'm sure the Reds

1545
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 2: as an organization are frustrated. And as a fan, it's

1546
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 2: frustrating too.

1547
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 16: And this is his this is his future, this is

1548
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 16: his nest egg that he's gonna have for his family.

1549
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 16: I just really, my heart goes out to your neck.

1550
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 16: If you God bless you.

1551
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 2: And by the way, and I'll read a passage here

1552
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 2: from Sea Trent Rosecrans because a lot of people will

1553
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 2: question Nicolodolo's toughness, Well he should pitch through a blister.

1554
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 2: And I'll read a passage that Sea Trent wrote about

1555
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 2: Nicolodolo earlier this morning, where he writes, pitching through the

1556
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 2: blister isn't about toughness but effectiveness because his slider is

1557
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 2: so good. Not throwing his best pitch to hitters doesn't

1558
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 2: make him Nickelodolo. And so if the blister is keeping

1559
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 2: him from throwing that slider, it just it totally puts

1560
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 2: a lid on how good he can be. And so

1561
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 2: this isn't about well, he's got to gut through a blister.

1562
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 2: It's about he can't throw what is his bread and

1563
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:01,680
Speaker 2: butter outpitch, what makes so effective, what's gotten into the

1564
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 2: big leagues. As long as he's dealing with this issue.

1565
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 16: Well, we're all gonna pray for him, and he's it's

1566
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 16: gonna work out. I'm just hopeful it's gonna win and

1567
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 16: and and Hunter is gonna come back and we're gonna

1568
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:18,719
Speaker 16: win that division. Here's what I got. I heard Lewis

1569
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 16: Riddick this morning. I love Do you like Lewis Riddick?

1570
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 3: I love a lot, Yes, I do.

1571
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:23,679
Speaker 4: Oh.

1572
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 16: He broke down Mendoza and Simpson this morning and he

1573
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 16: said he stood five feet away from Mendoza at their

1574
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 16: pro day, and he said, this guy ran the pro day.

1575
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 16: Mendoza ran the pro day. It was he was so

1576
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 16: impressed with his leadership qualities, and he said, he's really

1577
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:47,680
Speaker 16: beeped up. He's really lift a lot of weights in

1578
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 16: the offseason. He said as well, he was just totally

1579
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 16: impressed with his physique Number one, But he said more

1580
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 16: than that, his savvy for the game and uh and

1581
01:19:57,160 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 16: his ability to uh to uh almost Larry Bird, you know,

1582
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 16: how to play it and not even think about it.

1583
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1584
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:09,680
Speaker 2: So uh, I was this on the Dan Patrick Show, Yes, sir, So,

1585
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 2: I did not see or hear it live, but I

1586
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 2: read some of the quotes and I I came away

1587
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 2: with the impression that he was uber impressed by what

1588
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 2: he saw and heard from Mendoza at.

1589
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 3: At his pro day for Fernanda Mendoza at.

1590
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 16: His pro day and then bringing cousins in. I think

1591
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 16: it's just a brilliant idea to clement to him a bit.

1592
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 16: I know you've been talking college youth all the time

1593
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 16: and uh. And I'll tell you what. This Illinois team

1594
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 16: now there, I really believe they'll beat I really believe

1595
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 16: they will beat you, Kontumo.

1596
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 3: Uh.

1597
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 16: I don't know that they can handle the other two teams.

1598
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 16: I know you've been bullish. You're one of the few

1599
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 16: people I talked to all year that was so you

1600
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:59,600
Speaker 16: were bullish on this team in December with Illinois. Yeah,

1601
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 16: and I.

1602
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, watched them early in the season beat a good

1603
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 2: Texas Tech team before JT. Toppin got hurt. I watched

1604
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 2: them hang with and Alabama team. They lost that game,

1605
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 2: but that was extraordinarily entertaining, and I watched them play

1606
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 2: against Yukon and Yukon won that game. But I think

1607
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 2: the difference between Illinois early in the season versus now

1608
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:26,639
Speaker 2: is they've just defended so much better and like they're

1609
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 2: from a top to bottom talent perspective better than Iowa.

1610
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 2: But I think that's a hard Iowa team to prepare for.

1611
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:35,639
Speaker 2: Obviously easier because they played him in the Big Ten,

1612
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:38,560
Speaker 2: but what they were able to do to them defensively,

1613
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:40,679
Speaker 2: both in the regular season in a road.

1614
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 3: Game and then in the Elite eight like this would

1615
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 3: be a great game.

1616
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 2: But they're hard to defend because they're really good on

1617
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 2: the offensive glass, and I think we talked about them

1618
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 2: leading up to the game against Houston. I think the

1619
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 2: reason they were going to be a tough matchup for

1620
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 2: Houston is they just they have the anecdote to any

1621
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 2: defense because of all the different positions they can score from.

1622
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:06,640
Speaker 2: But they're also an offensive rebounding team and they limit turnovers,

1623
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 2: so like you may stop them, they'll get the board.

1624
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 2: You may play great defense, but they're still going to

1625
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 2: get a shot up and if they get a shot up,

1626
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 2: very good chance it goes in because of how talented

1627
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 2: they are, and very good chance they get the offensive

1628
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 2: rebound because they're they're great on the glass. I think

1629
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 2: there have been underrated for much of the season, and

1630
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 2: I do like him against Yukon tomorrow, I do.

1631
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:31,880
Speaker 16: Too, And I think they're really a very smart, smart team.

1632
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 16: That's what I like about them. And I know you

1633
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 16: gotta go. If you had to pick the NBA Finals

1634
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 16: right now, I'm going I'm going with Spurs and Celtics.

1635
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 3: What do you got, I'm going the same. I'm going

1636
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 3: exactly the same Wembia. Yeah, and like I think it

1637
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 3: would be.

1638
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 2: I think most people who follow basketball know who Victor

1639
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 2: Wendon Yana is.

1640
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 3: I think it would be awesome to see him get

1641
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 3: the stage of the NBA five. I have a hard

1642
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 3: time believing that either New York, Cleveland or Detroit can

1643
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 3: be a fully healthy Boston team in it beat him

1644
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:15,640
Speaker 3: four times.

1645
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 16: What a story with Miszoula, Missoula. What his relationship with

1646
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:22,599
Speaker 16: Jared is so cool? I love it.

1647
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't think much of the award, but he

1648
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 3: should be the NBA's Coach of the Year for what they.

1649
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1650
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 2: I obviously okayse is going to have something to say

1651
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 2: about it. The Lakers, maybe Denver, but I think san

1652
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:37,799
Speaker 2: Antonio is going to get back to the NBA Finals.

1653
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 2: Eighteen minutes after five o'clock, the color analyst for the

1654
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:43,719
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Speaker 2: You'll hear them this weekend calling the Final Four for

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Speaker 2: thirteen sixty. Former produced star Robbie Hummel you also see

1684
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Speaker 2: on the Big Ten Network CBS. His rise to one

1685
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:20,759
Speaker 2: of the top college basketball analyst spots has been pretty meteoric.

1686
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 2: I want to start though, before we talk about this weekend.

1687
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 2: You had your first ever Skyline Chile Crosstown shootout this

1688
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 2: past December. You called UC and Xavier with Brian Anderson

1689
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 2: for T and T. You've been a part of a

1690
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,759
Speaker 2: lot of great rivalry games you've called great rivalry games,

1691
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 2: but what was your first shootout experience?

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Speaker 13: Like, well, I've always had an appreciation from afar of

1693
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 13: this game because just in terms of when I was

1694
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 13: in college watching the Yancy Gates to Holloway and I

1695
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 13: did my pre draft stuff with two, so I got

1696
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 13: to know him pretty well. And you know, just from

1697
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:55,640
Speaker 13: following both programs of being a Midwest kid and you know,

1698
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 13: appreciating good basketball and seeing a robbery where the schools

1699
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 13: really don't like each other.

1700
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 4: It's one of the.

1701
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 13: Great rivalries in college basketball, and it's definitely one that

1702
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 13: does not get talked nearly enough about.

1703
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 4: You know, Xavier and Cincinnati have.

1704
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 13: Great histories, There's been great players, and you know, just

1705
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 13: walking into that building, you could feel how electric it was.

1706
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:17,679
Speaker 13: And you know, I know that for Cincinnati it wasn't

1707
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 13: the season they were hoping for and for Xavier there's

1708
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 13: a lot of hope with Richard Patino.

1709
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 4: But I loved it. I had a great time.

1710
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 13: It was great to be with Brian Anderson, who's one

1711
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 13: of the better played by play guys in the game.

1712
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 13: And it just felt like a big game, It really did,

1713
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 13: And I think that's that's a pretty cool thing to

1714
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:34,599
Speaker 13: say about a rivalry when honestly the teams are down

1715
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 13: compared to what they've been at their best. So it's

1716
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 13: I hope I can do it again. I really do hope.

1717
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 2: So so your career is interesting to me because remembering

1718
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 2: you as a player, you pivoted pretty quickly from playing

1719
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:45,440
Speaker 2: the broadcasting.

1720
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Speaker 13: Walk me through that well. I hated playing overseas, so

1721
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 13: I went as a rookie. I got drafted by the

1722
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 13: Timberwolves in the second round, fifty eighth, and I go

1723
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 13: to Spain play. You have a really good season, come

1724
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 13: back play two years for the Timberwolves.

1725
01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 4: Go to Milan.

1726
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 13: I play for Armani's basket ball team that he owned

1727
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 13: and ended up hurt my shoulder, came back, had surgery,

1728
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 13: got healthy, went with the Nuggets, was the last cut

1729
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 13: in training camp, went to Moscow, and Moscow like broke me.

1730
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 4: Now.

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01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 13: When I was in Milan, I had hurt my shoulder

1732
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 13: and had to come home in January, had shoulder surgery,

1733
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 13: tore my labram and Big ten Network reached out.

1734
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 4: I was like, would you want to do some studio?

1735
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 13: So this is like twenty sixteen, and I did ten

1736
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 13: studio and it ended up being something I'm like, you know,

1737
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 13: I'd done the NBA's sportscast for you, and now I've

1738
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 13: got this under my belt, and you know what I'm

1739
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 13: gonna kind of when I was in Moscow, I could

1740
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 13: not go back overseas, and I wasn't gonna be in

1741
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 13: the NBA anymore. So I made the decision to you know,

1742
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 13: I auditioned to ESPN and got on there, and Miles

1743
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 13: Simon had just taken a job, so they had their

1744
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 13: an opening for their like second Big twelve crew and

1745
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 13: a little bit of Big ten, and then I was

1746
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 13: at BTN and doing those games and it just kind

1747
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 13: of worked out from there. But it was I fell

1748
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 13: into it for sure, I really did.

1749
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 2: I love talking with players about their overseas experiences. I've

1750
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 2: never talked to anybody who's played in Moscow. Yeah, walk

1751
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 2: me through that experience.

1752
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 13: Cried. It was snowing so hard. I mean, it's so

1753
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 13: cold in Moscow. But you know, some of the corruption

1754
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 13: is crazy. You know, our our owner admitted to bribing

1755
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 13: the refs in a playoff series. I'm sure they were

1756
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 13: doing the same thing. So it's just it's an experience

1757
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 13: and it's a different one. But you know, I I

1758
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 13: have good stories, but I would not want to go.

1759
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 2: Back to understand. Understand, let's talk about these games this weekend.

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01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 2: You know you have a big ten focus. Illinois, to me,

1761
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 2: the most impressive thing I've seen anybody do in this tournament.

1762
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 2: You may disagree, is I watched Illinois out Houston, Houston guy,

1763
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 2: and to me, that answered a lot of questions about

1764
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 2: brand Endwoods team.

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01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:49,680
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think their defense has made such strides in

1766
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 13: the last month and a half. Now it will be

1767
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 13: a different beast against Connecticut with the movement, the cutting,

1768
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 13: the screening, the slipping, like just the discipline it takes

1769
01:28:58,080 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 13: to switch off the.

1770
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 4: Ball against those guys and not just get slipped into oblivion.

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Speaker 17: But the way they guarded Houston, the way they guarded Iowa,

1772
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 17: and those aren't two offensive juggernauts, but they handled Houston's

1773
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 17: toughness and they really withstood a barrage of threes in

1774
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 17: that first half from Iowa and just were the toughest

1775
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 17: team in Houston.

1776
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Speaker 4: So I'm curious to see if their defense can.

1777
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 13: Travel again and with standard an offense that can be

1778
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 13: so potent with a coach like Danny Hurley and I'm

1779
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 13: also curious if you kind of can remount with these guys.

1780
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:28,720
Speaker 13: I mean, Illinois just goes and goes and goes to

1781
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 13: the offensive glass. It's their wings, you know. It's it's

1782
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 13: hard to keep those guys off the glass. I'm really

1783
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 13: intrigued by the Caravan Mierkavich matchup, Americavich more interior, Caravan

1784
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 13: More on the perimeter, a great cutter, you know, running

1785
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:44,639
Speaker 13: off screens. I'm intrigued to see if Mirkavich can handle

1786
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 13: and on the flip side, if Caravan can guard Mirikavich

1787
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:48,759
Speaker 13: on the interior.

1788
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 4: Sure.

1789
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you think Michigan, You think Arizona just two wagons,

1790
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 2: you know, Arizona. Watching Cincinnati the way I did this season,

1791
01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 2: I don't know how you begin to prepare for everything

1792
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 2: they do. When then Michigan with Landenborg, the size, the depth,

1793
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 2: the different things they can do offensively. I think it's

1794
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 2: one of the most interesting just battles matchups we've had

1795
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 2: in a Final four national semifinal in quite a while.

1796
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:16,559
Speaker 13: Yeah, and it's just as two elite teams and two

1797
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 13: of the best teams that we've had all season long.

1798
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 13: The front courts are stacked. I mean, you're looking at Krevas,

1799
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 13: Pete Awaka and Karchenkov going up against the Daimar Mores Johnson,

1800
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:29,720
Speaker 13: the actual Lennonborg, like that is as good as it's

1801
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:32,640
Speaker 13: going to be in the entirety of the sport. You know,

1802
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 13: you look at the backcourts, and if you're talking about

1803
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 13: just the one and the two, I do think Arizona

1804
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 13: has the advantage. Jade Bradley the Big Twelve player of

1805
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 13: the year, Brandon Burry's is gonna be a lottery pick.

1806
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 13: And for Michigan, they've got really good players. Keno's hit

1807
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 13: a great year and Marion Burnet's hit a great year.

1808
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 13: But you probably look at the overall talent you say

1809
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 13: that'd be advanced to Arizona. So I'm curious to see

1810
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 13: if Michigan's guards can raise their level. And that calculus

1811
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 13: can be a bit different if you throw Lendeborg in

1812
01:30:57,320 --> 01:31:00,120
Speaker 13: there and say he's in the back court. But you're

1813
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 13: just talking about two teams that are so immune from

1814
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 13: poor three point shooting because they live on the offensive glass,

1815
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:08,559
Speaker 13: they live in the paint, they get to the foul line,

1816
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 13: they've got big time defenses. Michigan the best defense in

1817
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 13: the country. The variants of shooting is really not there.

1818
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:15,800
Speaker 13: Air zone doesn't even have to take them. Yeah, and

1819
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 13: Michigan can make They don't take a ton, but they

1820
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 13: can get They can get going for three.

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01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:21,760
Speaker 4: It'll be an awesome game.

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01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:24,600
Speaker 13: Who can be the more physical team and kind of

1823
01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 13: set the tone in the paint on the glass.

1824
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 2: Robbie Hummell, the former produced Star color analyst for the

1825
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 2: Final Four on Westwood One. You'll hear those broadcasts tomorrow

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01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 2: and Monday on Fox Sports thirteen sixty. It is a

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Speaker 2: twenty nine away from six o'clock. We're broadcasting from Radio

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Speaker 2: Row in Indianapolis. We've got good news from Texas and

1829
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Speaker 2: a college basketball coach with an interesting story whose career

1830
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Speaker 2: came to an end at the hands of the Bearcats.

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Speaker 3: That is next.

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Speaker 2: Dealer Cruise came to the plate in the top of

1855
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 2: the sixth inning today in Arlington against Mackenzie Gore, lefty,

1856
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:11,000
Speaker 2: and he showed bunt bunning for a hit.

1857
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 3: On the next pitch, he didn't bunt. Instead, he did this.

1858
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Speaker 18: Elly hit list today and two trips of the play

1859
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:20,360
Speaker 18: to strike out, hit into a fielder's choice his last

1860
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Speaker 18: time up and Wax.

1861
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 3: This one a deep left field on a line.

1862
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 18: It is deep, it is gone straight over the left

1863
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 18: field wall, a line drive home run for Ellie, his

1864
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:33,160
Speaker 18: third home run of the year, and it puts the

1865
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Speaker 18: Reds on top.

1866
01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:34,559
Speaker 3: Three to two.

1867
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 2: Tommy thrawl Red's Radio Network D seven hundred WLW three

1868
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 2: to two.

1869
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Speaker 3: Ellie.

1870
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:42,120
Speaker 2: As you heard Tommy say, his third home run of

1871
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 2: the season, it was a frozen rope a ball. That

1872
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 2: might be a slight exaggeration to say that it was

1873
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:50,719
Speaker 2: on a line, but it barely cleared the fence. Either

1874
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:54,559
Speaker 2: way doesn't matter. Reds up three to two. Brady Singer

1875
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 2: went five. Sam mall Is on in the bottom of

1876
01:33:57,240 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 2: the sixth, Sam or A. He went five and gave

1877
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:05,480
Speaker 2: up two runs. Spencer steer Is also homered for Cincinnati,

1878
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:07,479
Speaker 2: Reds up three to first road game of the season

1879
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:11,240
Speaker 2: for Cincinnati, bottom of the sixth in Texas against the Rangers.

1880
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 2: Upper Runfccincinnati against Red Bull New York tomorrow on ESPN

1881
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Cyclones on the road tonight against Tahoe. Also tomorrow,

1882
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:23,439
Speaker 2: Women's final four games on Fox Sports thirteen sixty tonight

1883
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 2: Men's Final Four tomorrow, with the championship game on Monday.

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Speaker 2: From here in Indianapolis from Fox Sports thirteen to sixty

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Speaker 2: Broadcasting from the Final Four Radio Row in Indianapolis. Luke

1890
01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 2: Loux just finished his first season as the head coach

1891
01:34:52,479 --> 01:34:56,759
Speaker 2: at Florida State and has I think an interesting story

1892
01:34:56,840 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 2: given the fact that he started his coaching career as

1893
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 2: an intern at basically the height of the Golden State

1894
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:06,599
Speaker 2: Warriors with Steph Curry and Draymond Green and Klay Thompson.

1895
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:08,559
Speaker 2: And I want to ask you about all that. I'm

1896
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:10,800
Speaker 2: gonna start throwing a sour note because I saw your

1897
01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 2: team play in mid December at ud Arena and it

1898
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:17,839
Speaker 2: didn't It didn't.

1899
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:18,479
Speaker 3: Go well you guys.

1900
01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 2: You guys got howls, and I'm thinking, like this is

1901
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:22,600
Speaker 2: gonna be a rough go for the Seminoles. And then

1902
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 2: in mid February, I'm watching you guys go on a

1903
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:28,320
Speaker 2: winning streak in the ACC, put yourself on the NCAA

1904
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 2: tournament bubble. You're playing well against you know, good teams

1905
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 2: like Virginia Tech. Really one of the the more impressive

1906
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:37,080
Speaker 2: in season turnarounds in college basketball this year.

1907
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:37,760
Speaker 3: What was the key?

1908
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, A few things went into it, and that boy,

1909
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:44,720
Speaker 4: that was a low point. That dating game was Atrocio's

1910
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:48,639
Speaker 4: Really that whole stretch we certainly did ever work cut

1911
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:50,559
Speaker 4: out for I'm I'm first time head coach, first time

1912
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 4: coaching in college. We got a lot of staff coming

1913
01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:54,599
Speaker 4: from the NBA. We had to get our feet under

1914
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:57,280
Speaker 4: ourselves in terms of the style of play. Some things

1915
01:35:57,320 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 4: we thought would work didn't work exactly for our ross.

1916
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:02,760
Speaker 4: We had to change, we had to adjust. But we

1917
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 4: also had a lot of trends. I mean, we had

1918
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:07,200
Speaker 4: nine guys that we signed that were new to this level,

1919
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:10,160
Speaker 4: and for some of those guys there's an adjustment period

1920
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:12,759
Speaker 4: coming up from low and mid major colleges to playing

1921
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:17,080
Speaker 4: with the big boys. And I think statistically we were

1922
01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:18,680
Speaker 4: the first thing in the history of the ACC to

1923
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 4: go zero to five in conference to start and then

1924
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:23,760
Speaker 4: finished with a winning record. We finished ten and eight

1925
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 4: in conference. I think we were picked eighteenth. It was

1926
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:29,719
Speaker 4: looking like that pick was good for a big portion

1927
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 4: of the season, and we finished eighth. And I think

1928
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:34,480
Speaker 4: it's a testament to the type of kid we recruited,

1929
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:37,759
Speaker 4: with good character, that's willing to work, that's willing to develop.

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Speaker 4: And I think ultimately, aside from the tactical changes, some

1931
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Speaker 4: of those that we made, our team developed and our

1932
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 4: players developed, and I think some coaches missed the players

1933
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 4: developing part. We spent so much time individually with our

1934
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:54,840
Speaker 4: players pre practice, post practice, working on their skills so

1935
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 4: that our team could get better, and I think over

1936
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Speaker 4: the course of the season you saw the progression. By

1937
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 4: the end of the we had a belief that we

1938
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:03,599
Speaker 4: could beat anyone in the country, and for a lot

1939
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:05,599
Speaker 4: of it, it came true. And you know, we took

1940
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Speaker 4: Duke number one team in the country to it to

1941
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 4: a last second shot two times. And I believe in

1942
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Speaker 4: moral victories. But that's pretty good for a team with

1943
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:16,599
Speaker 4: our resources, and at minimum there's a proof of concept

1944
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Speaker 4: of what we're trying to build.

1945
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Speaker 3: I always like.

1946
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Speaker 2: Talking with head coaches after they've been on the job

1947
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Speaker 2: for a year and this is your first head coaching job.

1948
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 2: A little bit of a non traditional path to it,

1949
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 2: which I want to talk about, But give me an

1950
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Speaker 2: idea of some things you would tell yourself a year

1951
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Speaker 2: ago that you've learned over the last twelve months.

1952
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was awesome to go through, even the lows.

1953
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:38,800
Speaker 4: I learned so much. As a head coach, I learned

1954
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 4: a lot just in terms of leading a group that's

1955
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 4: always really come natural to me being a point guard.

1956
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 4: I grew up being a quarterback, played in college, played professionally,

1957
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:50,120
Speaker 4: and then rose through the coaching ranks. Like you said,

1958
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:52,920
Speaker 4: in the NBA, where I was around the best players,

1959
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:55,400
Speaker 4: some of them in the history of basketball. To learn

1960
01:37:55,479 --> 01:37:57,960
Speaker 4: from it. I'm always eager to learn, and I made

1961
01:37:58,120 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 4: a lot of mistakes that I will not make again.

1962
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 4: You know, Dennis Gates actually told me this early on,

1963
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:07,479
Speaker 4: like before we played a game, and Dennis was one

1964
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:10,280
Speaker 4: of our assistants at Florida State with Leonard Hamilton. So

1965
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 4: the best thing about your one is getting a year two,

1966
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:15,280
Speaker 4: and that couldn't be more true. You got to get

1967
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:17,040
Speaker 4: through it, you got to take some lumps, You've got

1968
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 4: to learn, but ultimately getting to year two, you feel

1969
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:22,680
Speaker 4: like you're in such a better place. Going through some

1970
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:25,080
Speaker 4: of those mistakes that hopefully we don't make it and

1971
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:25,599
Speaker 4: make again.

1972
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 2: So ten years ago you joined the Golden State Warriors

1973
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:34,200
Speaker 2: as an intern and this is like twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen,

1974
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:37,800
Speaker 2: this is Pete Golden State Warriors. So from then to now,

1975
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:39,720
Speaker 2: there's a lot of things we could talk about, But like,

1976
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:41,800
Speaker 2: what were those first couple of years, like when you've

1977
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:43,960
Speaker 2: decided I'm going to get into the coaching kind of things.

1978
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:47,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was unbelievable starting out at that level at

1979
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:49,920
Speaker 4: the Intern. I mean you're doing every you're scouting film,

1980
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:53,240
Speaker 4: you're breaking it down, You're you're rebounding for guys at

1981
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:56,680
Speaker 4: at midnight and six am. The hours were long, but

1982
01:38:57,120 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 4: the staff was absolutely incredible. I have some of the

1983
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 4: close to friends and mentors of my life from that staff.

1984
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:05,880
Speaker 4: But Steve Kerr was incredible the way he leads. I

1985
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:08,599
Speaker 4: became really close with Mike Brown and then eventually took

1986
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 4: me to Sacramento with him when he got his head

1987
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 4: coaching opportunity. But so many guys on that staff taught

1988
01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 4: me not just about coaching right the first time I'd

1989
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 4: been in that route just finished playing professionally a few

1990
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:24,080
Speaker 4: months prior, but taught me about relationship building and taught

1991
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:25,600
Speaker 4: me about teaching. Taught me the way you got to

1992
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:28,639
Speaker 4: communicate with these guys a little bit different than any

1993
01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:31,360
Speaker 4: other level because some of these guys have egos. We

1994
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:33,120
Speaker 4: all got to ego somewhere, somewhere a little bit bigger,

1995
01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 4: some of these Hall of famers. You got to talk

1996
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:36,519
Speaker 4: to a certain way, you got to work with a

1997
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:38,679
Speaker 4: certain way. And so for me, it was a crash

1998
01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 4: course of all things basket. I thought I knew knew

1999
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:42,599
Speaker 4: the game. I thought it was a pretty smart player.

2000
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:45,519
Speaker 4: But I learned more in that first season as an

2001
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:49,519
Speaker 4: intern than any other year combines in my basketball journey.

2002
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:51,640
Speaker 4: And then going from being an intern to being a

2003
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:53,800
Speaker 4: player revelment coach, to working up to an assistant coach,

2004
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:56,680
Speaker 4: and then eventually being a coordinator on both sides of

2005
01:39:56,680 --> 01:40:00,679
Speaker 4: the ball in Sacramento, it was an unbelievable journe Every

2006
01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:02,679
Speaker 4: year I felt like I grew a little bit more

2007
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 4: to we eventually become a head coach. Didn't know when

2008
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:07,680
Speaker 4: the opportunity would come, but I'm so grateful it's at

2009
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 4: my alma mater, where I can go back home and

2010
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:11,160
Speaker 4: hopefully turn this program around.

2011
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:12,599
Speaker 3: How unique.

2012
01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 2: It's unique, But how what unique difficulties were there going

2013
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:19,559
Speaker 2: from an NBA team to being a college head coach,

2014
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 2: because that transition it.

2015
01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:23,240
Speaker 3: Happens, but it doesn't happen as often.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was a transition that the good part.

2017
01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 4: On the personal side, it was pretty easy because my

2018
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:32,479
Speaker 4: wife was a student athlete at Florida State. I grew

2019
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:34,920
Speaker 4: up cheering for the Knowles like that part of it.

2020
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:37,599
Speaker 4: On a personal side, just for our family and our kids.

2021
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:40,720
Speaker 4: We got family close by. That that was about a

2022
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:43,680
Speaker 4: smooth of a transition, as you can imagine. On the

2023
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:46,799
Speaker 4: professional side, it was awesome because it was a challenge.

2024
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:49,720
Speaker 4: You know that the state of our program was not

2025
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 4: great and and that's no disrespect to Leonard Hamilton. He's

2026
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 4: one of the closest friends I have in life and

2027
01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:57,960
Speaker 4: talk to him all the time. But you know, the funding,

2028
01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 4: there had to be a lot of fundraising, just the

2029
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:04,120
Speaker 4: relationship with the administration. We got to a really good

2030
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:07,559
Speaker 4: point this year and we'll continue to moving forward. But

2031
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:10,920
Speaker 4: basketball wasn't a priority for a long time, and coach

2032
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:14,080
Speaker 4: Hamilton squeeze every ounce of juice out of that orange

2033
01:41:14,120 --> 01:41:15,680
Speaker 4: for so many years. I mean a hall of Fame

2034
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:18,520
Speaker 4: level coach. Some of the runs he had there were incredible,

2035
01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:21,320
Speaker 4: but everyone knows and it's black and white. Florida is

2036
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 4: a football school and will continue to be. But can

2037
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:28,000
Speaker 4: we do what some of these other schools have done

2038
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:30,439
Speaker 4: in terms of Florida, in terms of Alabama, in terms

2039
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:33,080
Speaker 4: of Auburn. You know, there's some football schools that are

2040
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:36,920
Speaker 4: pretty good at basketball now, even Michigan, Like you look

2041
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:39,120
Speaker 4: at some of these schools that are historic football schools,

2042
01:41:39,160 --> 01:41:42,160
Speaker 4: but they are getting their basketball program to a top

2043
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:44,960
Speaker 4: fifteen level consistently. And that's what we're going to try

2044
01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:49,559
Speaker 4: to do at Florida State. And the adjustment was more

2045
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:53,599
Speaker 4: on a tactical level of how much can we bring

2046
01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:56,840
Speaker 4: from the NBA to college and how much of that

2047
01:41:56,880 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 4: won't work at this level, whether it's a skill discrepancy

2048
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:04,080
Speaker 4: or just different rules, different pace. We tried to squeeze

2049
01:42:04,120 --> 01:42:07,040
Speaker 4: as much of an NBA style into college as possible.

2050
01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 4: I think we broke every three point attempt and make

2051
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:13,040
Speaker 4: record in Florida State history. Our pace was top six

2052
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:17,200
Speaker 4: or seven in terms of power basketball schools our efficiency.

2053
01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:18,840
Speaker 4: I think we had the most efficient offense in the

2054
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:20,960
Speaker 4: history of Florida State. And not actually thought our offense

2055
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:25,160
Speaker 4: stunk this year, but it's a good challenge to see

2056
01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:28,799
Speaker 4: what tweaks you can make. And like, our offensive coordinator

2057
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 4: is an NBA guy with me, so going back and

2058
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 4: forth with him of like, that's probably not gonna work.

2059
01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:35,479
Speaker 4: We're gonna tweak that throughout the year. Was so cool

2060
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:38,479
Speaker 4: for us because we've never coached in college. I know

2061
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:40,240
Speaker 4: I'm ramling, but I'm excited about the dolls.

2062
01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:42,760
Speaker 2: Man, I could tell Could I bring up a bad

2063
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:43,639
Speaker 2: memory please?

2064
01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:48,760
Speaker 3: I attended you're a last college game in Nashville Cincinnati

2065
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:49,760
Speaker 3: against Cincinnati.

2066
01:42:49,880 --> 01:42:52,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the last time the Bearcats made the Sweet sixteen.

2067
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 2: I know it's not a puzzant memory, but give me

2068
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:56,040
Speaker 2: something from that night.

2069
01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:58,640
Speaker 4: No, that was you guys had an unbelievable team, like

2070
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:02,280
Speaker 4: Yancy Gates was. It would probably was the worst matchup

2071
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:04,200
Speaker 4: for us because we were we were massive. I mean

2072
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:06,799
Speaker 4: we were across the board. We had size and strength

2073
01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:08,720
Speaker 4: and I think you guys were about six four and

2074
01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:10,719
Speaker 4: sixty five across the board and then and then Yancey

2075
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 4: in the middle. But the biggest things to stick out

2076
01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:18,679
Speaker 4: that was that was an absolute dog fight the whole game.

2077
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:20,519
Speaker 4: And I think I turned it over twice in the

2078
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:24,040
Speaker 4: last two minutes. Yeah, Dion Dixon in the press the

2079
01:43:24,120 --> 01:43:26,000
Speaker 4: two two one for I remember it too. Thanks for

2080
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:28,920
Speaker 4: bringing it up. But but to me, that was that

2081
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:30,880
Speaker 4: was probably as close to a Final four team as

2082
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:32,960
Speaker 4: we had at Florida State. Won the a C champion

2083
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:35,760
Speaker 4: the chip that year. But but that that man, that

2084
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:38,640
Speaker 4: Cincinnati team did you guys had some dogs on that

2085
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:41,320
Speaker 4: team defensively and and yeah, not not a great ending

2086
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:42,599
Speaker 4: in my career at Florida State.

2087
01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:45,840
Speaker 2: I book ended our conversation was starting with a road

2088
01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:48,280
Speaker 2: loss to to date which didn't go well, and your

2089
01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:51,280
Speaker 2: last college game one more Cincinnati connection with Golden State.

2090
01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:54,040
Speaker 2: So everybody thinks Warriors, I think Steph Curry, Draymond Green.

2091
01:43:54,479 --> 01:43:56,800
Speaker 2: I think Jacob Evans to work with Jacob.

2092
01:43:56,760 --> 01:43:59,519
Speaker 4: I did. I personally worked with Jacob so that that

2093
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:01,800
Speaker 4: year I'll player development coach. But when Jacob will go

2094
01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:03,760
Speaker 4: down to the minor leagues, I would actually go with them,

2095
01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 4: we travel together. I'll continue his player development in Santa Cruz.

2096
01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:09,080
Speaker 4: So he was a great man. He had a great

2097
01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 4: career at Cincinnati and obviously didn't work out long term

2098
01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:15,439
Speaker 4: in the NBA. But he's still fighting away man. Jacob's

2099
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:16,160
Speaker 4: a good kid man.

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Speaker 3: Excuse me.

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01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:21,240
Speaker 2: Luke laps the head coach at Florida State. Some fun memories.

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01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:24,719
Speaker 2: I remember that game and Dion Dixon with the steel

2103
01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 2: against Luke. I appreciate the time coach. Good stuff from

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01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:35,920
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