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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike SINCEY three sixty about Cincinnati. From Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: this is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: I ask and you will receive.

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Speaker 3: Often is the case on a show like this at

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Speaker 3: Sincy three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, our

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Speaker 3: number three. We have scoured all avenues Austin to bring

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Speaker 3: people up to speed, even though this is a sports

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Speaker 3: show with the latest in weather in the Tri state area.

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Speaker 3: We just had our first ever weather segment on CINCY

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Speaker 3: three to sixty with Jennifer Ketchmark, who is as reputable

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Speaker 3: as it comes. And then I thought, wouldn't it be

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Speaker 3: something if we could talk to maybe the snow removal

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Speaker 3: side of things. And there were a lot of reputable

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Speaker 3: businesses and a lot of reputable people that we kind

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Speaker 3: of scratched off the list. Today, a lot of people

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Speaker 3: were busy, a lot of people are preparing for what

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Speaker 3: the weekend is. Because to fail to pair is preparing

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Speaker 3: to fail, It's true. And so most of the people

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Speaker 3: we reached out to were like, I'm busy, can't make it.

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Speaker 3: And then we came across Land and going further down

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Speaker 3: the list now Land and officially Landon's long care Yes,

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Speaker 3: we reached out to land In. We essentially got the

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Speaker 3: message back of once I get out of bed and

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Speaker 3: get you know, myself ready for the day, then I'll

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Speaker 3: call back.

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Speaker 2: And so here at two o'clock, Landing is now up.

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Speaker 2: He's ready to go.

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Speaker 3: He probably just got out of a huge meeting and

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Speaker 3: he's joining us right now in preparation of the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Hello Landing, Hello Danny. I we're doing well. Landon. How

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Speaker 2: are you doing?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing just great, caught up on my sleep, ready

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Speaker 4: to go for this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Just just a waiting game.

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Speaker 3: Talk to me now about what your life looks like

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Speaker 3: this weekend. And I know that at this point in

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Speaker 3: your career it's a lot of behind the desk stuff.

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Speaker 3: You're you're kind of pushing everything out to others. But

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Speaker 3: early on in your career, what did the weekend look

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Speaker 3: like this from a work standpoint?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, uh, you know, basically, you're on call twenty

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Speaker 4: four to seven for the next two three days. You're

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Speaker 4: checking the you're checking the radar constantly, You're driving around

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Speaker 4: to a lot of your sites constantly, and you know,

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Speaker 4: just making sure that everybody's parking lots and properties are

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Speaker 4: are in an okay condition for them to continue business.

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Speaker 3: Talk to me about pre salting. What kind of salt

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Speaker 3: do you land on in the pre treatment they call

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, pre salting is huge.

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Speaker 4: We do have a few of our big commercial sites

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Speaker 4: along with nursing homes. Basically, pre salt is resulting before

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Speaker 4: the storm. It helps melt off a few of that

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Speaker 4: first inch inch and a half of snow, and it

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Speaker 4: helps not to build up ice underneath that snow, which

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Speaker 4: creates an easier snow removal for you.

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Speaker 5: Do you change what you do based off the temperature,

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Speaker 5: because we just talked to a meteorologist who said, listen

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Speaker 5: to temperature. That stuff's gonna be rendered useless if it's

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Speaker 5: too cold. Does that change what you do or do

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Speaker 5: you do that anyways?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it does play actor.

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Speaker 4: Although we do have a couple places that it's in

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Speaker 4: our contract that we are required to pre salt. And

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Speaker 4: I have reached out and expressed my concern with the

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Speaker 4: temperatures and salt not working, but I have been told

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Speaker 4: to go ahead and still pre salt. So yes, with

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Speaker 4: the temperatures, you know, typically the rule of thumb is

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Speaker 4: under twenty degrees, salt's really not gonna do much, and

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Speaker 3: So I was always taught growing up, thirty two to

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Speaker 3: twenty five is the optimal temperatures for salt to work.

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Speaker 3: Twenty and fifteen you're gonna get a little reduced efficiency,

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Speaker 3: and then below fifteen is an ineffective zone. You're drawing

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's what we've used as twenty degrees. Now

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Speaker 4: a lot of traffic. So if we throw down some

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Speaker 4: that salt a little bit better. But you know, I

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Speaker 2: That might make it a challenge for us for for

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Speaker 3: Folks, Is there any ever when you lay your head

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Speaker 4: What well, No, because we don't do you know, streets

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Speaker 4: or anything like that. We're strictly you know, as a

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Speaker 4: It's kind of a legal in the state of Ohio.

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Speaker 2: Good to know. No, No, not in that aspect.

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Speaker 4: Although hitting things, trust me, we've we've we've touched a

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Speaker 4: few things that we shouldn't have and there's been some

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Speaker 5: But yeah, you know, I really I didn't know that. Like,

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Speaker 5: you're not allowed to do any streets. Like you can't

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Speaker 5: even be a good Samarian?

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Speaker 3: What if I call you to be like man, I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you that a couple of bucks here, you can't

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Speaker 4: No, Technically, in the state of Ohio, if you drop

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Speaker 4: it is illegal.

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Speaker 2: You could do all right, if it's owned by an

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Speaker 2: hl way sometimes you can do that. But yeah, I

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Speaker 2: can't just go drop my plal and I seventy five

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Speaker 2: and have a heyday. No kidding, I didn't know.

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Speaker 5: I thought like you could go down like you know

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Speaker 5: any you know residentials, just be a good samaritan.

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Speaker 2: I thought you could do that. But you're saying no.

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Speaker 4: No, no, Third there's any damage, they will they will

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Speaker 4: put that onto you and then you are now liable

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Speaker 2: How often do you think about it though, like when

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Speaker 2: thought about it? You thought about it? I thought about

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Speaker 5: So what do you what do you like bring in

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Speaker 5: your fleet of trucks? Like, how many people are Landon's

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Speaker 5: lawn Care got out on a for a storm like this?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we'll have two guys out in trucks. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: we'll have someone doing sidewalk. So I deally, with this

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Speaker 2: But when you say with us, does that mean your fleet.

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Speaker 3: Are you actually are you actually out in the snow

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Speaker 4: I am actually, you know, the leader out there and

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Speaker 4: leading leading everything.

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Speaker 2: Correct, you know.

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Speaker 4: Typically I don't sit behind the desk all day like

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Speaker 4: you guys from twelve to three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, usually out mouth there stuff, you know.

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Speaker 5: Kobe Bryant once famously said that leadership is lonely. Is

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Speaker 5: that something that you experienced, you know, two three o'clock

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Speaker 4: Correct, it does get lonely and cold at two or

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Speaker 4: three o'clock in the morning with the negative ten wind, chilly. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: What do you got in the truck with you to

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Speaker 5: keep you awake? Because I don't I know you have

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Speaker 5: known you since you were you know, four feet tall. Uh,

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Speaker 5: you're not a coffee guy. I know that you retired

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Speaker 5: from your mountain de addiction that probably would have gotten

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Speaker 2: What do you do to keep yourself awake? A couple

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Speaker 2: of red.

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Speaker 4: Bulls, a couple of lemonades, definitely some candy, anything that

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Speaker 4: sour keeps.

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Speaker 2: You up and going. One of the questions or the

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Speaker 2: way to go?

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Speaker 3: I have one of the questions because I've always been

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Speaker 3: fascinated by this, the ineffectiveness of salt. I think I

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Speaker 3: remember reading at some point magnesium chloride, calcium chloride sand,

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Speaker 3: those things can be better for traction and melting powder.

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Speaker 2: Do you do you share that at all?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is a little more pricey, but you know,

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Speaker 4: magnesium chloride. We're using bulk salt, so that's basically like

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Speaker 4: your bag sidewalk salt. It's better for the concrete works

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Speaker 4: in lower degree temperatures. We don't do a lot of

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Speaker 4: sand in Ohio. I don't even know if they do

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Speaker 3: So well, this has been enlightening and absolutely I appreciate

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Speaker 2: Thank you, land absolutely, gentlemen. You stay safe and you

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Speaker 2: stay warm this weekend, all right, buddy, you too. Man.

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Speaker 2: That is Landon Davis. Unbelievable. Landon's long hair. Not only.

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Speaker 5: We love to give land in a hard time, but

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Speaker 5: he really is a good Yeah. I'm very proud of him.

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Speaker 5: He's uh built his own business and is very successful

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Speaker 5: also a successful freshman basketball coach as well with the

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Speaker 5: Yellow Jack. I believe he's a bourbon guy too. He's

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Speaker 2: And how's the freshman squad at Sydney playing?

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Speaker 5: Pretty damn good? Okay, don't ask about JV or varsity No,

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Speaker 5: freshman team pretty damn good.

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Speaker 2: Man. What a day, What a historic day here.

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Speaker 5: So far, snowplow removal and meteorologists joining us on.

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Speaker 3: Bob Mangini joined us in a few minutes. Before we

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Speaker 3: get to that, Austin, Let's about a couple of these

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Speaker 3: games here, NFL games this weekend. Let's talk about the

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Speaker 3: AFC Championship. One of the things about this weekend with

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Speaker 3: the weather where it is in the US, neither of

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Speaker 3: these games are going to be affected by the weather.

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Speaker 3: Broncos Patriots. It is going to be in the mid twenties,

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Speaker 3: but no precipitation. Jared Stidham, starting for the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 3: New England is a road favorite at minus four and

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Speaker 3: a half who do you like.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to say New England, but I think this

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Speaker 5: is a very closer too. I don't think it's a

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Speaker 5: blowout by any stretch.

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Speaker 3: YEP, I'm with you. I think at the end, Drake

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Speaker 3: May makes a couple more plays and the Patriots defense.

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Speaker 3: Everyone talks about the Broncos defense. I think the Patriots

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Speaker 3: For the Rams mid forties on Sunday for the NFC

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Speaker 3: title Game, no precipitation, mid Forties Seattle to two and

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Speaker 3: a half point favorite. They lost Zach Charboney. He is

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Speaker 3: not playing in this game. These two teams couldn't have

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