1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: It's anxiety with Dan Ray unfeeling you easy Boston's News radio. 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 2: I promise you if you keep listening to Night's Side tonight, 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 2: we will keep you warm, that's for sure. We'll have 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: some warm conversation during the first hour. We'll talk to 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 2: four individuals. No phone calls during the first hour, but 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 2: then we will get onto matters other Matter's going to 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 2: talk about the Cape Cod Bridge project and the pressure 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: that is being put on several families who live in 9 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: the shadow of the Sagamore Bridge. Really, this is some 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: tough pressure being applied by the state Department of Transportation 11 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: against these homeowners. And I know that it might not 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: impact you, it might not impact me, but it's something 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 2: we should talk about. I'll also talk about a sign 14 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: which has shown up at the parish, a Catholic parish 15 00:00:54,720 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: in Denham Dealing. Well, I'll get to it. It's an 16 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 2: interesting it's an interesting display. Let us put it like that, 17 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 2: and well, we're here for the rest of the evening. 18 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: My name is Dan Ray. Rob Brooks is back in 19 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: the control room. You'll talk to him before you get 20 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 2: on the air, and you'll only be able to get 21 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: on the air after the nine o'clock news. Just sit 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: back and relax. We have four very interesting topics. Going 23 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: to talk about the trends Google's trends in twenty twenty five. 24 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: Going to talk with Chad Finn of the Boston Globe 25 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: about the Patriots again, this team that surprises us all 26 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 2: every weekend, or surprises most of us. And we're going 27 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 2: to talk about a tough survey that shows that so 28 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: called allies seem to be abandoning people who are Jewish 29 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: as anti Semitism surges in this country. So I think 30 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: we've got to strengthen some people's backbones and have them 31 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: speak out against anti Semitism wherever that vile activity rears 32 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: its ugly head. Let's start off with Emily Sweeney of 33 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: the Boston Globe, Cold Case Files reporter. Hey, Emily, welcome 34 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: back to Night's side. 35 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: Hey Dan, hope you're staying warm. 36 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I meanside. So I know that there's some activities 37 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 2: outdoors in Boston tonight. It's winter is finally as well 38 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 2: is here. It's not finally here. I think it's arrived 39 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: a little early. But we're going to take a look 40 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: back in time, not at how cold it is going 41 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: to be. The last the next couple of days. But 42 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 2: we're going to look back about forty five years later 43 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: with you again. You have these cold case files, and 44 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: this is a murder of a woman named Teresa Corley. 45 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 2: Tell us about it forty five years ago. That's going 46 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: to take us back to nineteen eighty I'm guessing. 47 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, actually nineteen seventy eight, Okay, December fifth. Teresa 48 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 3: was nineteen years old, living with her family in Bellingham, 49 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 3: and she went out to a back called the Train 50 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 3: Stop in Franklin. You know, it's friends, Sure, yep, she 51 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 3: you know, ended up getting into an iging with the 52 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 3: guy she was with. Left the bar. It was like, 53 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 3: you know, I'm going to walk home. And it was 54 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 3: about five and a half miles away. 55 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: It's a long walk, huh at any time of day, 56 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 2: particularly at night. 57 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and so you know, obviously it's dangerous to 58 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: be out walking alone. Turns out, a group of guys 59 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 3: that she knows picks her up, three or four guys, 60 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 3: and they drive her to the Presidential Arms Apartments and 61 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 3: Root one forty in Franklin, where she's sexually assaulted and 62 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 3: Portosa you know, leaves in the we you know, very 63 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: early in the morning, and you know, she was tried 64 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: to get out of there so quickly that she was 65 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: wearing mismatched shoes when she left one of her shoes 66 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: and one of the shoes belonging to one of the guys, 67 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 3: and she started, you know again, making her way home. 68 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 3: And she was last seen in Bellingham Center and a 69 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: mile from her house by a truck driver. And then 70 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: she disappeared, and she wasn't found for two days and 71 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 3: then her her naked body was found in a wooded 72 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 3: area right off four nine in Bellingham. 73 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 2: Okay, this sounds like a horror movie. So so she 74 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: has an argument with a guy in the bar. I'm 75 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: assuming that they must have looked at him, the authorities, 76 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: the police, fairly closely. 77 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 78 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 3: So she she was out with with a lot of friends, 79 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 3: you know, and police have said, you know, she she 80 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 3: was socializing with numerous people that evening. And it's just 81 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 3: so strange too, you know, to have you know, have 82 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 3: a you know, picked up by a group of guys, 83 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 3: you know, and then being taken to this apartment. 84 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: Do we know, how do we know that? Do we 85 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 2: know who these these guys were? But they just driving 86 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: along and they saw her and offered her a ride 87 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:04,239 Speaker 2: or were they people? 88 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they didn't know her and they knew 89 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 3: her and they're like, hey, you know, do you want 90 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: to lift? You know, And obviously it seems probably seemed 91 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 3: like a better option at the time, you know, absolutely 92 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: sure December. You know, it's just very strange, you know, 93 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 3: her leaving the apartment and then you know that there's 94 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 3: two options of what happened. Either one of the guys 95 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 3: you know or you know, some of them, you know, 96 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: went after her, or she was attacked a second time 97 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 3: by somebody completely different. 98 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 2: Yeah that seems yeah, that seems unlikely. But get a 99 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: small town police department in nineteen seventy eight, I get it. 100 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 2: I assume the state police had to commit on this 101 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: one because it's a homicide. 102 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, So you know, I talked to her, her sister, Jerry, 103 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 3: just yesterday, and you know, about the case and how 104 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: it was going, you know, and Jerry has always said, 105 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 3: you know, and you know, other investigators have I'm sure 106 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: agree that you know, this is a solvable case. You 107 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: know that that people involved are still probably out there, 108 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: still around, and you know, if somebody I don't know 109 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 3: has a change of hot after all this time, and 110 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 3: it's also DNA at play as well. 111 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: That was good. That's my next question was if if 112 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: she was raped or is actually assaulted. I assume that 113 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: they had some DNA and man, I'll tell you, uh, 114 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: it's it's a small group of people who had interactions. 115 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: Did the police know the three men? How do we 116 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: know that that they knew her? They were that they 117 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: were friends that obviously she never communicated this was any anyone, 118 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: This was pre self cell phones speriods. Did they Did 119 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 2: the police have any idea you know, who the person 120 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: was she had to fight in the bar with there 121 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 2: or other ways that. 122 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yeah, the guys in the apartment obviously. You 123 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 3: know it's a key link, you know to the last 124 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: night that she was alive, and I mean Jerry told 125 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: me her sister, you know, I mean there was some 126 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: swabs taken from a body that a law enforcement source 127 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: told her were unfortunately damaged when there was a flood 128 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 3: where they were being stored and there it was either 129 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 3: a flood or a fire, but there was water damage. 130 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: But there is some more DNA that continues to be tested. 131 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 4: You know. 132 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 3: I reached out to the Norfolk DA's office and started 133 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 3: to be talking so fast. It's just a lot of 134 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: you know, it's a complicated case, and you know a 135 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 3: lot of time has passed. But Dan, I do like 136 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 3: to focus sometimes on these cases because this could be 137 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: the last chance, you know, there might be somebody out 138 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 3: there that they could you know. 139 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: So I'm looking at I'm looking at the piece out 140 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: of the Globe back in the day, and wow, this 141 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: she was in junior high school. She was was in 142 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: her second year at Holliston Junior High School. According to 143 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: the Globe piece written by Tim Dwyer and Lonnie Isabelle. 144 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: Uh oh, this this one is this one. Definitely hopefully 145 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: we can get we can get you a lead, Emily. 146 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: Great work. I know that these are tough cases to 147 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 2: talk about, and I know they are tough cases to 148 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: work on, and I thank you for what you're doing 149 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: real quickly. How can people follow you work? And how 150 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: can they get actually on the mailing list and get 151 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: some of this information sent to them? The information is free, 152 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: as I understand it. Correct. 153 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so two things, you know, if anybody has 154 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 3: information about the case. The Norfolk DA's office told me 155 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 3: that Sergeant Jeffrey Karkowski with the say police unresolved case 156 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 3: unit is on this case, and you can call one 157 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: eight five y five m A Solved to give any 158 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 3: information that you have of the case. And if you'd 159 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: like to sign up for my cold case newsletter, you 160 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 3: can do that on the Globe's website if you go 161 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 3: to Globe dot com slash cold case files. 162 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 2: The other thing what people could do, Emily, I'm sure 163 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: could contact you with the Globe because you know the ses, 164 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: and I think that would be if I had information 165 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 2: in the case, I would be calling you so that 166 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: you could have the information before I called anybody, because 167 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: you're the one who works these cases. And I'm not 168 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: in any way, shape or form disparaging anyone else who 169 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: might have some interest in solving this case. But boy, 170 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 2: this is this is a terrible, terrible case. To think 171 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: what this young young woman, young girl went through in 172 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: the final twenty four hours of her life in the 173 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: town of Bellingham, Massachusetts. This is, this is this one 174 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 2: has to be solved. Emily, Thank you so much, as always. Okay, 175 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: we'll talk to you a couple. 176 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 3: Of ye Yes, all right, thanks all right, Thanks so much, Dan, 177 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 3: have a great night. 178 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 2: Good night, tough case. Emily Sweeney at The Boston Globe. 179 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: If you have a thought on that, feel free to 180 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: contact her. She's a great reporter. But we get back 181 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: on to talk about Google's annual Year in Search twenty 182 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: twenty five, the top search trends and topics that fascinated 183 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: the world. Christina Basilio, the Google trends expert, will join us. 184 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: She's been with us before. We'll talk to her right 185 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: after the break. Here on a very cold Thursday night 186 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 2: here in New England. 187 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBS Boston's news radio. 188 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: Well, it's that time of year again where Google, I 189 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 2: guess monitors and then sends out a report on the 190 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: top search trends and topics during the year. That is 191 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 2: now ending with us. Is Christina Basilio. She's a Google 192 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: trends expert. Christina, Welcome back to Night's Side. 193 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 5: So great to be here. 194 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was sent a link here which linked me 195 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 2: to the twenty twenty four search. Is the twenty twenty 196 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: five search completed? Have you publicized it yet or are 197 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 2: we going to kind of talk about what the trends 198 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: will be when you finally announce it. 199 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 5: We announced it today, so anyone that's interested. You get 200 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 5: over to trends at Google dot com and then you 201 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 5: can click the urine search tab and then you'll be 202 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 5: able to see all the breakout and most interesting trends 203 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 5: that we you saw across multiple categories in twenty twenty five. 204 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 2: Okay, well, let's talk about a few of them that 205 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 2: would be interest. Let's wet people's appetite. What were the 206 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: biggest trends that you saw? If you've I know that 207 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 2: you do this by many categories, but you know, just 208 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: pick a two or three that we can chat about. 209 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think one of the things that people 210 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 5: are most interested in is what was top searched across 211 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 5: the Internet in general. So we look at aggregated and 212 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 5: anonymised data to pull all of this together. And some 213 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 5: of our biggest searches this year were K pop Demon Hunters, 214 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 5: the movie on Netflix. The Boo Boos were actually really 215 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 5: popular this year. It was really interesting to see that 216 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 5: actually the FIFA Club World Cup was in our top 217 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 5: ten list and has shown up across a couple of 218 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,479 Speaker 5: different categories as well, like sports teams. 219 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 2: Well, so that wouldn't surprise me if you're doing this internationally, 220 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 2: because soccer might not be the biggest sport in this 221 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 2: country football and baseball. I think in basketball far out 222 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: distance soccer, but worldwide that's a bit of a different story. 223 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: So what were the first two categories you mentioned? There? 224 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: Was la booboo? Was that a doll or something? I 225 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: must admit to you. I know a lot about a 226 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 2: lot of things, but I don't know a lot about labubu. 227 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 2: So since it was so popular, help me get caught 228 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: up here. What was la buobu? 229 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 5: Yeah? So labubus are these little plushies. They kind of 230 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 5: look like little grimlins. They're furry, they have cute little faces, 231 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 5: and you can get them in like different colors, and 232 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 5: the kids are buying them. And the way that I 233 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 5: would think about them for anyone who's never seen or 234 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 5: experienced a la booboo, it's like a backpack charm. You 235 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 5: can put it on your backpack, you can carry it 236 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 5: with you, and I feel like it's the modern day 237 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 5: beanie baby. 238 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: Well, I had a great deal of familiarity with beanie 239 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: babies because my kids were sort of into well, my 240 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: daughter was into that. In the nineteen nineties. Of course, 241 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: many parents were saying, we're going to buy these beanie 242 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 2: babies and they're going to pay for the kids college education. 243 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 2: I assume there's not that anticipation with Labubus. They're buying 244 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: it for the right reasons. Uh, And they're not, you know, 245 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 2: stockpiling them in the attic in hopes of paying off 246 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: the college education for their children. 247 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 4: I assume, Yeah. 248 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 5: I don't think so. I think all the parents learned 249 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 5: from the beanie baby phays that we just get the 250 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 5: cute plushies because they're cool, not because they're an investment. 251 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: And what was the movie before that? That was the 252 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: second thing you mentioned in the first movie went right 253 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: by me. What what was the name of the movie 254 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: that there was a big search search item here. 255 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was Cape k Pop Demon Hunters. I don't 256 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 5: know if they have a lot of really popular songs. 257 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 5: It's about this. 258 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: South Korean group, Yeah group right kop Okay, I'm up, 259 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: I'm up. Not bad them kind of up a little bit. 260 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 2: So they did a movie. 261 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, So there was a really popular movie. It was 262 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 5: like one of the most watched movies on Netflix. It's 263 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 5: an animated movie and it was really cool because the 264 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 5: music from that movie also started making some breakout searches 265 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 5: this year across our music categories too. 266 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 2: Okay, was that it pick a serious category, which was 267 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: I mean, we had, you know, a lot of politics 268 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 2: in this country. Do you do you follow political My 269 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 2: audience would be interested in what the top political search 270 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: was for or something like that. 271 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 5: So we do. Yeah, we do look at what's really 272 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 5: top of mind, and we always see things like political 273 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 5: figures or major news events come up. We do have 274 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 5: our news category. In our news category, some of the 275 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 5: top things that were that were searched were the One 276 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 5: Big Beautiful Bill Act, the government shut down, and the 277 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 5: terriffs and some other things that popped up in the 278 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 5: news category were also the Los Angeles fires that happened 279 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 5: earlier this year, as well as Hurricane Melissa. So that's 280 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 5: really common that we see that pop up across a 281 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 5: few different All of. 282 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: Those make perfect, perfectly good sense to me because all 283 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 2: of those were either a crisis or a controversy. And 284 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: it's good to know that people are using Google to actually, 285 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: I guess, find out information about something that really impacts them. 286 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: I know, I'm going to sound like a curmudgeon when 287 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: I say, you know, the lebooboo whatever. I guess that 288 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: there's probably a lot of ten and twelve and thirteen 289 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 2: year old little kids who were searching for labuobo. But 290 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: I think that was hardening to think that people were 291 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 2: searching for things that were important to not only natural 292 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: disasters like the hurricane down in Jamaica, but the fires 293 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: in the last January in California which were horrible, as 294 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: well as the government shutdown which was a huge story 295 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: for about forty days, and the Big Beautiful Bill, so 296 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: called Big Beautiful Bill, which was controversial in so many respects. 297 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 2: That says to me that that your adult audience is 298 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: really following things that are important. And what about sports? 299 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: Give me a quick sports. I'm hoping you're going to 300 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 2: tell me it's going to be the resurgence of the 301 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: New England Patriots, which is going to be my next topic. 302 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: But the World Series got to be the World Series 303 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: with the Dodgers and the Blue Jays. 304 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 5: Well, it's really interesting in the data that we pull 305 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 5: because not only do we have national data, but we 306 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 5: also have regional data. So to your point around what 307 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 5: was really popular for folks that are local and your listeners, 308 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 5: the New England Patriots was the most popular jersey type, 309 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 5: So we did see that, which hopefully that that's because 310 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 5: people are excited for how they're doing. And then Jeff 311 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 5: T his jersey was also really really popular among local 312 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 5: listeners too. 313 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: Who is that I missed it? What was that name? 314 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 5: Jeff pe. 315 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 2: Jeff T. Yeah, he doesn't play for the Patriots. 316 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 5: He did not play for the Patriots. He's an American 317 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,959 Speaker 5: basketball player, so different sport. 318 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: Okay, I was thinking, uh, the Patriots quarterback Derek May 319 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 2: you know? Okay, good enough, all right, Okay, I'm gonna 320 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 2: let you go. Christina Basilio, Google's trends expert. I'm sure 321 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: this is a job with a lot of pressure on it, 322 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: though you sound very relaxed whenever we talk. Thanks so 323 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,959 Speaker 2: much for joining us tonight, Christine. I always enjoy chatting 324 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 2: with you. 325 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 5: Thank you, guys. Have a great night. 326 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 2: We sure will. We come back on and talk about 327 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: something I know a little bit about, and that is 328 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 2: the new week of Patriots Go Talk with Chad Finn, 329 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 2: Boston Globe sports reporter. He says the Patriots defense against 330 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 2: the Giants was the most vicious he scene since the 331 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 2: time they were winning Super Bowls. They did a good 332 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 2: night on Monday Night against Giants team that I think 333 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: has got three wins, so it's it was it Probably 334 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 2: they were not running, I guess against one of the 335 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 2: best teams. Patriots have had the easiest schedule of any 336 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 2: NFL team this year, but they've taken advantage of it, 337 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 2: and that's part of winning, and that's part of maybe 338 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: a trip to the Super Bowl. We'll find out from 339 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: Chad Finn coming right up on Nightside after this. 340 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's 341 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: news radio. 342 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 2: A delighted to be to welcome back Chadfinn. Boston Globe 343 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,719 Speaker 2: Sports Report of Chad. I was just talking with a 344 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 2: Google trends expert, and I didn't know a lot about 345 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 2: the things she was talking about. But you know a 346 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 2: lot more about the Patriots defense than I do. You 347 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: called them last weekend the most vicious Patriots defense was 348 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 2: seen since they were winning Super Bowls. Pretty interesting characterization. 349 00:19:55,920 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 2: What prompted that that adjective to s bid you a column? 350 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, Dan, it was basically them knocking Giants quarterback Jackson 351 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 6: Dart silly during that game. 352 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 4: He got hit so hard. 353 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 6: Along the sideline by Patriots lambacker Christianellis that Drake made 354 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 6: the Patriots Quarterwack said, you could hear it throughout the stadium. 355 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 6: So when that happens and it kind of continues for 356 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 6: the whole game, or there were big hits all over 357 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 6: the place, and we found out afterwards that was kind 358 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 6: of an emphasis for them in that game against the Giants. 359 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 6: It reminded me of really the last time they were 360 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 6: a two championship contending team, and they're kind of looking 361 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 6: like one right now. 362 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 2: They are, but you know better than me that they 363 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 2: have had a relatively easy schedule in terms of strength opponents. 364 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 2: It looks to me that they well, I know they 365 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 2: have the Ravens left, and they have Buffalo in Miami. 366 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 2: I think that covers the balance of the schedule. Buffalo 367 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 2: has to come here. They've already beaten Buffalo with Buffalo. 368 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 2: I think they'll be a favorite in that game here. 369 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 6: Oh that's a good question. I think they will be 370 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 6: because they're going to be going into it eleven and two, 371 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 6: and the memory in people's minds is probably going to 372 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 6: be this Monday night game against the Giants where they 373 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 6: look so good. It was really sort of the national 374 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 6: coming out party for Drake May where these national reporters 375 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 6: from ESPN come in see him in person for the 376 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 6: first time and walk away raving, and that's kind of 377 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 6: elevated the perception of them a little bit. I think 378 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 6: they will be favored against the Bills in the bigger picture. 379 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 6: Their schedule has been easy. You don't win ten in 380 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 6: a row no matter how easy or hard your schedule 381 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 6: is usually. That's a real tribute to them. But I 382 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 6: think people need to consider too that the Patriots were 383 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 6: supposed to be one of those easy teams on other 384 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,719 Speaker 6: franchises schedules this year, and they've turned out not to be. 385 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 6: They've turned out to be one of the better teams 386 00:21:59,400 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 6: in the league. 387 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: So a lot of this has to go to Rabel. 388 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 2: I mean, a team does not turn around like this 389 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 2: without a great job by a coach. He's got to 390 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 2: be coaches the year, no matter what happens from here 391 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 2: on out. They look like they believe in Rabel. Whatever 392 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: Rabel is selling in the locker room, it looks to 393 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: me like they are buying. 394 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 6: In Yes, And it's really interesting because it's definitely tactical. 395 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 6: He's a really good defensive coach. I think he recognizes 396 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 6: as all good coaches do something Bill Belichick did really 397 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 6: well too, is the best way to take a particular 398 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 6: talent that a player has and maximize that he's really 399 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 6: good at that. And you've seen that come through with 400 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,959 Speaker 6: a lot of guys who were here last year who 401 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 6: were better players this year because of the coaching they're getting. 402 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 6: But the other thing Dan is he treats them like 403 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:56,719 Speaker 6: human beings. And for all the success Belcher had, that 404 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 6: really wasn't his thing and it burned out like Brady, 405 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 6: it burned out. Rob Grinkowski didn't want to play here anymore. 406 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 6: Just was a grind every day. And I think if 407 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 6: you actually have a little bit of an emotional connection 408 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 6: with your players, that can go a long way. They 409 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 6: want to play for you, they like playing for you, 410 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 6: they're like coming to work every day. And so far 411 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 6: with Rabel, that's been one of his great strengths too. 412 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: Well. I think every manager, coach, owner of a business, 413 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 2: head of a law firm or whatever, anyone who is 414 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 2: in charge of people needs to be more Mike Rabel. 415 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 2: You know, I think that he probably learned some tough 416 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: lessons in Tennessee. He didn't have the same success down 417 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 2: there that he's had here. Didn't probably have a quarterback 418 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 2: like Drake May, which is a pretty good, pretty good start. 419 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 2: Do you think they can run the table from here 420 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 2: on out or what's your thought on that they could 421 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: they end up you know, butt fifteen and two. 422 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 4: I think it's plausible. I think Buffalo is the real 423 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 4: tough one here coming out at the Bay. Uh. 424 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 6: People are overrating the Ravens a little bit because Lamar 425 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 6: Jackson's beat up and he's not the same player this year. 426 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 6: They're they're perennial MVP court candidate quarterback. 427 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: But that game, that game is in Baltimore. Is that 428 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 2: game in Baltimore? 429 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 4: I think yeah, Yeah, that's the road games. 430 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 2: A little tougher on the road. Okay, and maybe Miami 431 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 2: could be a sleeper too. I mean, you know who knows. Uh, 432 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: They're they're they've been up and down all all season. 433 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 2: But Buffalo has something to prove here. I mean, if 434 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: Buffalo comes in and lies down, uh and and and 435 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 2: does nothing, that that's going to tell me that the 436 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 2: Patriots are going to There's there's one team that can 437 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: stop him, and that probably would be Denver. 438 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good one. I think Houston's a really 439 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 6: tough matchup for the Patriots. They don't have a great 440 00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 6: offense by any means, but their defense is uh one 441 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 6: of the best, if not the best, in the league, 442 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 6: and they can really get after the quarterback. I think 443 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 6: that would be one a rare game where the Patriots 444 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 6: have a hard time putting twenty something points on the board. 445 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 6: So that's a matchup i'd try to avoid. Denver is 446 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 6: interesting because they had a fantastic defense and I have 447 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 6: a lot of name recognition on defense, but got picked 448 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 6: up heart a little bit by the Washington commanders of 449 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 6: their backup quarterbacks. 450 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 4: I think there might be weaknesses there that the Patriots 451 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 4: could expose. 452 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 2: So what you suggesting, and I don't think it's unreasonable, 453 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 2: is that we should not be stunned if the Patriots 454 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 2: end up in the Super Bowl Game as the AFC champion. 455 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 6: Well, Dan, you know I'm writing about this for early 456 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 6: next week part of our bye week content. 457 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 2: There's all yeah, yeah, you got to dig deep on 458 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: this one, Chad, go ahead. 459 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 6: It's a long two weeks. The two things I knew 460 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 6: I'd never see as a Bustin sports reporter, there's someoney 461 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 6: gruffy as a fan again, is the two thousand and 462 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 6: four Red Sox, it's just not possible winning after six years, 463 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 6: and then two thousand and one where the Patriots came 464 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 6: out of nowhere and went on to win that Super 465 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 6: Bowl and ran the table after being five and five, 466 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 6: and this team reminds me a lot of that one team. 467 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 6: There's so many parallels, including Mike rabel Is, one of 468 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 6: the players Belichick brought in the free agent that years. 469 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 6: He's connected in both ways, but there are some similarities 470 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 6: I'm going to dive into. And any outcome this season, 471 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 6: any positive outcome of this team at this point, it's 472 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 6: not going to shock me. I think because of two things. 473 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 6: They have a great coach and they have a legitimate, 474 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 6: legitimately great young quarterback in Drake May and those two 475 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 6: things can take you far. 476 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: And they have good players around him. I like their 477 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 2: tight ends a lot. I mean, and May is want 478 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,959 Speaker 2: enough to find Hunter Henry when when he's in trouble. 479 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 2: I think that's Henry's a smart player. And on defense, 480 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 2: as you said, they have good players. They got good 481 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: guys on special teams. I mean the punt returner, that 482 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 2: was an incredible punt return I think even better than 483 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 2: the first one that he took to the house earlier 484 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 2: this year. They're they got it all going on here, 485 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 2: So let's hope that that all of our dreams come 486 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: through for this team. And they also seem like a 487 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 2: good group of guys at this point. You know, the 488 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 2: last few years the Patriots have had some guys in 489 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 2: little domestic TIFFs and we got caught here or there 490 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: in a car. But these guys seem like all good citizens. 491 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 2: Have you guys had a chance to spend much time 492 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 2: in the locker room? 493 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 6: Yeah, a little bit. I've traveled a few games this 494 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 6: year and kind of seen them on the road too, 495 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 6: and I think that's true. I think one emphasis with 496 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 6: all the free agency brought and to revamped this roster 497 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 6: in the offseason was character. It's something Belichick actually prioritized 498 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 6: a good part of his time here, drafting guys who 499 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 6: were captains of their college team. That was the little 500 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 6: thing he liked to focus on. I think Rabel has 501 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 6: kind of taken that from him. And when you have 502 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 6: those locker. 503 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 4: Room full of those types of players, you can bring 504 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 4: in somebody that maybe has a little bit of baggage. 505 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 4: They did that with Stefan Diggs, An excellent wide receiver 506 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 4: who's had a history of getting frustrated when he doesn't 507 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 4: get the ball, and he's been a great fit. I 508 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 4: think in part because Rabel and offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels 509 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 4: have emboldened him and let him be a little bit 510 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 4: of a leader. And they really have a great feel, 511 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 4: a great sense for how to how to maximize the 512 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 4: personalities of the players off the field as well as 513 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 4: they know. 514 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 2: Someone say that Diggs has been targeted the most of 515 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 2: any of the receivers and has the most reception. And 516 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: I've never heard a bad thing about Diggs. I mean, 517 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: maybe he didn't like his playing time situation as a 518 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 2: younger player, but Belichick brought in some guys who had, 519 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 2: you know, the proms off the field as well. Uh, 520 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: And I don't get a sense with this. These guys 521 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 2: seem like good citizens, so they're an easy team to 522 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: root for. Chad Finn, thank you so much. I really 523 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 2: enjoy talking sports with you. You you do a great 524 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 2: job and it's good to know and now find out 525 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 2: for the first time that you grew up here. You're 526 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 2: you're a Massachusetts guy or a New England guy. 527 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 6: I'm a New England guy. 528 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, from Maine, from Main Well, that's okay. It used 529 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 2: to be Maine used to be part of Massachusetts. So 530 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 2: you know, we we can call you can claim you 531 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 2: as our own as well. Chad Finn or the Boston Globe. 532 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: Chad is always thanks much for your time and your analysis. 533 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 2: Appreciate it. 534 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 4: Thanks about Stan. I was great talking here. 535 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 2: Talk all right, we get back. We're gonna finish up 536 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: with them one more guest. Uh And I'm not even 537 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 2: gonna tell you who it is. I want to surprise 538 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 2: you on the other time. Oh, you know what, I will. 539 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 2: I will because it's a serious subject. We're going to 540 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: talk about a survey that shows that so called allies, 541 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 2: people who have in the past supported Jewish people when 542 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 2: anti Semitism surges, seems to be seem to be dropping 543 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 2: away a little bit. Going to talk with Russell Contreras. 544 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 2: He's a justice and race reporter at Axios, So I 545 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 2: don't want to goof around about something like that. I 546 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 2: happen to consider that to be a very serious problem 547 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 2: in this country at this time. We'll talk with Russell 548 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 2: Russell Contreras of Axios right after this break on Night Side. 549 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Dan Ray on Boston's News Radio. 550 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. I think anyone who listens to Nightside 551 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 2: knows that the whole concept of anti Semitism is something 552 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 2: that really bothers me. We will be talking with the 553 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 2: member of the Commission here in Massachusetts dealing with anti Semitism, 554 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 2: Dave Friedman is an attorney Harvard Harvard Law School. On 555 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: Tuesday Night, he actually a clerk for the US Supreme Court. 556 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 2: Smart guy. He's a Red Sox council but he serves 557 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 2: on this commission. Tonight, we're talking with Russell Contreras. He's 558 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,959 Speaker 2: a justice and race reporter at Axios. And there's a 559 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: survey that has just come out from what's called Blue Square, 560 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 2: that is the Blue Square Alliance Against Hate group that 561 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 2: was founded by Patriots owner Bob Kraft. And unfortunately, the 562 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 2: statistics that they have come up with are a little 563 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 2: disheartening because even as anti Semitism has increased in this 564 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: country in the last two or three years, in the 565 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 2: wake of what happened on October the seventh, the support, 566 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 2: the stated support for the Jewish community and the concern 567 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 2: over anti Semitism seems to have waned. Who're going to 568 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 2: talk with Russell contraras about Russell. I looked at those numbers. 569 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 2: It's always tough to explain numbers on radio for obvious reason. 570 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 2: Charts and graphs that do a great job, but we 571 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 2: can't show charts and graphs. What's the bottom line that 572 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 2: you see here? And as the Axios Reporter, Justice and 573 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 2: Race Reporter these numbers. It's not a huge drop off, 574 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 2: but it's enough to drop off during a period of 575 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 2: time that trouble me. I'd love to know what. 576 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 4: You think that's correct. And this new survey by the 577 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 4: BLAF Square Alliance against Hay gives you some narrative that 578 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 4: something is going on. Anti Semitism has plateaued in many aspects. 579 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 4: That's like what some research say is a good thing 580 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 4: because it can't get any worse, right, you just can't. 581 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 4: But what we're finding is that people who are considered allies, 582 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 4: that number has dropped about forty percent in the last 583 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 4: two years that this survey has done. On the other side, 584 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 4: the number of quot unquot haters has increased by sixty 585 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 4: seven percent. So the number of people that we would 586 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 4: consider allies against anti Semitism has dropped and the number 587 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 4: of people who are openly saying like anti Jewish things 588 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 4: is increasing, and that you know, the number of tropes 589 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 4: that we have, whether they're soft anti semitism or heard 590 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 4: anti semitism, that's actually going up. So the survey is 591 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 4: saying they were going on in the wrong direction in 592 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,479 Speaker 4: terms of outreach and in terms of education, and that 593 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 4: is what's disturbing to this group. 594 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's one that that I see this. I'll try 595 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 2: to simplify a couple of them here. The familiarity with 596 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 2: anti Semitism in America has dropped from twenty percent in 597 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 2: December of twenty twenty three to sixteen percent in twenty 598 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 2: twenty five August of twenty twenty five. That is while 599 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 2: the hostage crisis in Israel is ongoing, that is while 600 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 2: Jewish students were being harassed at colleges and universities across 601 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 2: this country. That is why, that is when there was 602 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 2: a resurgence of the VDS movement, that number should not 603 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 2: be going down during that period of time. It should 604 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 2: have been going up exactly. 605 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 4: The oh, the awareness, you think, the awareness, it's just 606 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 4: the coverage of that. No matter where you stand on 607 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 4: campus issues, the fact that you would just talk about. Look, 608 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,479 Speaker 4: there's some things that we thought we had settled long ago, 609 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 4: especially after World War Two, right, is that we should 610 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 4: not be discriminating against people based on religion, and we 611 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 4: should not in any aspects have any remnants of anti 612 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 4: Semitism in the United States going into the twenty first century. 613 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 4: What this poll suggest is that the people who are 614 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 4: blaming a Jewish people for a number of things that 615 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,959 Speaker 4: we thought we got rid of in mid century last 616 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 4: century is going up, whether they're blaming them on control 617 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 4: of media or control of this, and that those tropes 618 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 4: that we I thought had been gone years ago are 619 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 4: coming back. 620 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. And the problem is, you wonder, and I don't 621 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 2: know if this was broken down by age, but you 622 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 2: would hope that the baby boomers whose parents survived, whose 623 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 2: parents lived through World War Two, as my parents lived 624 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 2: through World War two, would have taught their children well 625 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 2: and they would have, you know, whether they were Jewish 626 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 2: or not, talked about the horrors of World War Two 627 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 2: and the horrors of concentration camps and what was the 628 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 2: eradication of millions of people. So my question is there 629 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 2: any correlation here that says baby boomers are dropping their 630 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 2: support or is this that the younger generations maybe don't 631 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 2: have an appreciation of the horrors of the nineteen thirties 632 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 2: and the nineteen forties worldwide. 633 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 4: That's a good question. This poll didn't break it down 634 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 4: as much, but in previous reporting that I have done, 635 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 4: we've seen evidence that the gen Z and even millennials 636 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 4: did not get the Holocaust education that we'd assume they 637 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,760 Speaker 4: would sugar have received. So if you ask in various 638 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 4: polls I've done and various stories I've done about Poles, 639 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 4: gen Z doesn't know some basic facts about the Holocaust. 640 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 4: There are a lot of different states, and it really 641 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 4: depends on where you live. I used to live in Massachusetts. 642 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 4: I used to live in Chelsea, and I know that 643 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 4: there there was a different sort of education. Now I 644 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 4: live here in New Mexico, and you don't get a 645 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 4: lot of those discussions, lessons, panel gatherings where you talk 646 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,720 Speaker 4: to Holocaust of vibrus, or even talk to some basic 647 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 4: things about the Holocaust in World two that we're losing. 648 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 4: And this is a real person to me. You know, 649 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 4: I'm a nephew of a Holocaust liberator. He would tell 650 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 4: me stories when I was younger, and I didn't really 651 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 4: fully understand until I got older. And what he's all 652 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 4: he came back and got involved in civil rights because 653 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 4: of what he witnessed and what he saw at getting 654 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 4: liberating the Nortingburg North Hysome camp. That that was very 655 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 4: educational to me. Now, you know, it is my duty 656 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 4: to share this with my daughters. I don't know if 657 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 4: other people are doing that as well. And we're letting 658 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 4: social media where a lot of these anti Semitic tropes 659 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 4: get a lot of break. 660 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 2: That is the other element again, you know, it's the 661 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 2: people getting their news from social media that is frightening. Russell. 662 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 2: I really enjoyed this conversation. I wish I had known 663 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 2: you when you were here in Chelsea. But let's keep 664 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 2: in touch and we'll have you back on. This is 665 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,439 Speaker 2: your beat. Let's let's stay in touch. 666 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 4: Okay, absolutely, Miss Massachusetts. 667 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 2: Love it up there, all right, Russell Contreras Justice and 668 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 2: Race reporter of Axios. How can people is axios now available? 669 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 2: Do you need to subscribe? How can we we can 670 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 2: get it your information in front of some of my audience. 671 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 4: Just go to straight to axios dot com. You can 672 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 4: go to acxuos dot com Slash newsletters and subscribe for 673 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 4: free to our am newsletter, getting your inbox free every morning. 674 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 4: Also in the afternoon, we also have Axios Boston, which 675 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 4: we cover Boston. I'm former Globe reporter myself Global alum too. 676 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 4: We cover just as some really good issues there. Go 677 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 4: ahead and do that. We'll have more in depth on 678 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 4: the story. 679 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had some of the folks from Axios Boston on, 680 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 2: but we wanted to talk to you tonight about anti Semitism, 681 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 2: the lack of awareness that unfortunately screeping across the land. 682 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 2: Russell Contreras, Thanks so much for your time. We'll talk again. 683 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:41,919 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. 684 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 4: We'll start, we'll talk So, okay. 685 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 2: Here comes the nine o'clock news after break and we're 686 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 2: going to talk to you about a really tough situation 687 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 2: for a group of families on Cape Cod and I 688 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 2: hope we can develop some, if not sympathy, least empathy 689 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 2: for these souls. We'll be back on night side.