WEBVTT - Seeing Signs from Loved Ones

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<v Speaker 1>All right, smo Joe in the morning. This topic of

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<v Speaker 1>the Conversation podcast is the afghan. What's that?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what an afghan is? Actually you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it that a purse? It's like a blanket, isn't.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a blanket, like a knit or I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if it's knit or crochet. It's like a blanket.

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<v Speaker 1>My grandma and my mom were all about that was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, say, my grandma Grace, who passed away when I

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<v Speaker 3>was a senior in high school, made them for everybody,

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<v Speaker 3>all the grandkids, all the kids, all the cousins. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>she loved making afghans and slippers for all the kids

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<v Speaker 3>in the family.

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<v Speaker 1>So my uncle, that's the name of a movie too,

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<v Speaker 1>the afghan.

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<v Speaker 3>They're so cozy. No, my uncle passed away this past week.

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<v Speaker 3>His funeral was on Saturday. So my mom's brother passed away,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was ill, and he was very old. Actually

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<v Speaker 3>today would have been his eighty sixth birthday, so he

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<v Speaker 3>was significantly older than my mom. But still so very sad.

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<v Speaker 3>Like to lose a family member, especially goal like somebody

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<v Speaker 3>who's you know, close in proximity in the family.

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<v Speaker 1>To you.

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<v Speaker 3>But my family, especially my mom's side of the family,

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<v Speaker 3>not good with grief and loss and processing. And so

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<v Speaker 3>my cousin Renee, this is her dad who had passed,

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<v Speaker 3>was really struggling last week and kept asking for signs

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<v Speaker 3>from our grandma. You know, please, Grandma, just let me

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<v Speaker 3>know that my dad is up there in heaven with you,

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<v Speaker 3>and you welcomed him, and you're taking good care of him,

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<v Speaker 3>and that you and Grandpa are going to continue to

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<v Speaker 3>take good care of him. Like, please just give me

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<v Speaker 3>a sign that he's that my Dad's okay. This is

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<v Speaker 3>a thing in our family of people asking for signs

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<v Speaker 3>and dreams, and it happens all the time everywhere. For

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<v Speaker 3>our family, me probably the least by far, but especially

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<v Speaker 3>for my cousin Renee. My grandma sends her so many signs.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure enough, later that same night that she prayed this prayer,

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<v Speaker 3>she goes into a closet of her home, like a

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<v Speaker 3>closet where she keeps like her son's clothes and shoes

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<v Speaker 3>and everything, and the afghan that my grandma made for

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<v Speaker 3>her family was just laying on the floor of the

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<v Speaker 3>closet on top of the shoes, and she was like

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<v Speaker 3>what in the actual heck, this is not.

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<v Speaker 2>Where I keep it.

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<v Speaker 3>So she was frozen, going okay, so right away she

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<v Speaker 3>went and asked her husband Gary, did you like move

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<v Speaker 3>the afghan?

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<v Speaker 2>And he was like no.

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<v Speaker 3>She went and asked her son Tyler, who lives with her,

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<v Speaker 3>did you move the afghan? And he was like no,

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<v Speaker 3>Why would I put it in a closet on top

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<v Speaker 3>of shoes? How insane is that? And she's like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>there's my sign from grandma that my dad's up there

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<v Speaker 3>and she's got them and and he's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry didn't move the nobody grabbed the afghan.

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<v Speaker 3>But this stuff happens to her all the time that

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<v Speaker 3>you just Renee specifically Renee my mom a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>Lucy a lot of times. Lucy never met my grandma

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<v Speaker 3>but has this weird closeness where she has dreams about her,

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<v Speaker 3>but especially my cousin Renee.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yeah, and that's comforting. That's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very comforting.

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<v Speaker 1>We always have the birds that will come like a cardinal,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, from time to time.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like butterflies, I know the though.

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<v Speaker 1>No, so my dad used to love cardinals like those

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<v Speaker 1>were his favorite birds. And after he had passed. Jacob

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<v Speaker 1>would have a cardinal sitting out on his window all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and Jacob kind of had a little special

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<v Speaker 1>relationship there with my dad. But it was but it

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<v Speaker 1>was every now or doves. My sister Pat always says

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<v Speaker 1>that when the anniversary of my mother passing has happened,

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<v Speaker 1>she sees white doves a lot at that time.

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<v Speaker 3>So I totally forgot to put this in my topics

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<v Speaker 3>to add to this. So this happened over the weekend

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<v Speaker 3>as well. Wes's mom passed away. It's almost been nine years,

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<v Speaker 3>almost ten, And yesterday he came in the house and

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<v Speaker 3>he's like, Today's just one of those days. I wish

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<v Speaker 3>I could call my mom. Like I wish I could

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<v Speaker 3>call my mom. We don't have a lot going on.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to catch up with her and and

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<v Speaker 3>just like tell her like how the weekend has been.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, oh, like that makes me so sad

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm able to call my mom.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's not. All be damned you guys. We go

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<v Speaker 2>out in.

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<v Speaker 3>My driveway, our driveway to unload his jeep because I

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<v Speaker 3>had a little home good situation yesterday. So we're unloading

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<v Speaker 3>all this stuff on the driveway is a sticker that

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<v Speaker 3>Wes's mom had like written on wes Nativity to store

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<v Speaker 3>the Nativity set that she gave him that we have

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<v Speaker 3>like up in our attic above the garage and I

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<v Speaker 3>haven't taught. We haven't touched since we put Christmas stuff away.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just stuck on the concrete of our driveway.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was like, how crazy is that? I just said,

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<v Speaker 3>I wish I could call my mom and we go outside,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's on the driveway.

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<v Speaker 2>It was I I like that, goosebumps.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. That told me that's yeah, you know what they

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<v Speaker 1>they're sending signs if we when we've talked to the

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<v Speaker 1>death lady tells her name no no, no, no, no, Rebecca Rosen.

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<v Speaker 1>When we had Rebecca on the show, she would always

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<v Speaker 1>say that they're sending She didn't talk to anybody. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Maybe I ask, you mean you aren't getting signed?

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<v Speaker 1>I know I feel the same way like I want them.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just mentioned Grandma Ellis today.

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<v Speaker 1>Grandmama, what's going on? Amanda?

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<v Speaker 4>Good morning?

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning.

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<v Speaker 5>So my mom passed away about three years ago, and

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<v Speaker 5>I one, I feel like when I ask for signs,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't get them. But I have a folder on

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<v Speaker 5>my phone that I've like labeled for like pictures that

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like were signs. I saw that on like

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<v Speaker 5>an idea.

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<v Speaker 6>On TikTok, and I just thought that was like a

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<v Speaker 6>really good idea, so I can like go.

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<v Speaker 5>Look back at it when I'm like feeling sad and.

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<v Speaker 6>Stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 5>I've had some like pretty crazy ones.

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<v Speaker 6>One of them I was like the anniversary of her

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<v Speaker 6>passing and I went and bought like a lottery ticket

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<v Speaker 6>and the ticket numbers were her and my dad's wedding anniversary.

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<v Speaker 7>Wow, that's so And like for like Kevin.

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<v Speaker 6>Anna, like I just feel like until you get them,

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<v Speaker 6>like you just don't truly under like, like I totally

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<v Speaker 6>get why it's skeptical and like sometimes I tell my

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<v Speaker 6>friends that, like, oh, I like had a sign for

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<v Speaker 6>my mom, and I know that it sounds crazy, but

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<v Speaker 6>like I don't know, there's you. I just feel like

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<v Speaker 6>you know it on a different level.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, And honestly, sometimes you don't realize you're getting

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<v Speaker 1>them when you're When you're getting them, like you almost

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<v Speaker 1>have to really concentrate on it. It's kind of weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Like especially you almost have to have something come up

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<v Speaker 1>where you're like missing on them or like WestEd with

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I wish I could talk to my mom today.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a couple of friends of mine that have done

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<v Speaker 1>the AI thing, where they've AI their loved ones voices

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<v Speaker 1>talking to them. To me, I get weirded out by

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<v Speaker 1>that whole deal, like that happening, But if it comforts you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, take it? What about video for him?

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<v Speaker 1>Like a video? It would be wild, It'd be wild.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have many recordings of my mother's voice. It'd

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<v Speaker 1>be cool if AI could make more recordings of it,

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<v Speaker 1>just to hear. What's a blind Claudia is on with us?

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<v Speaker 1>Miss Mojo?

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<v Speaker 4>Guys, Hello, I can have a story that relates Once

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<v Speaker 4>upon a time I had a friend that passed.

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<v Speaker 8>She died, and and you know, I never can the

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<v Speaker 8>comfort to tell her I love her, I'm sorry and everything.

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<v Speaker 8>And just when she died, when she died, she she

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<v Speaker 8>she she she, she spoke to me. She spoke to

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<v Speaker 8>me through electric.

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<v Speaker 1>To what happened? What do you mean I mean shut

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<v Speaker 1>your electricity off?

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<v Speaker 8>No no, no, no no, don't play.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't play with me.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought maybe maybe you didn't pay the DT email there, No.

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<v Speaker 8>I did. I was well paid in in the d

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<v Speaker 8>T email.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know the light bulbs, the light bulbs, like the.

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<v Speaker 8>Light bulb was just flickering, yeahlicking.

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<v Speaker 9>Like can you see the don't play with me?

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<v Speaker 7>Well did he will?

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<v Speaker 6>Did that?

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<v Speaker 5>We did?

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<v Speaker 1>Then?

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<v Speaker 8>Then that gave her give her the piece and respect

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<v Speaker 8>that she does it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. How dare these guys? I love you? I

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<v Speaker 1>love you blind Claudia.

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<v Speaker 9>We love you as valid question, Ashley, you have a

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<v Speaker 9>friend that.

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<v Speaker 1>Shows you signs?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah. So I was having a really hard time. That

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<v Speaker 7>hadn't been that long since she had passed, and my

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<v Speaker 7>girls are inside and I just like, I was like,

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<v Speaker 7>I gotta just go for a drive. I was like,

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<v Speaker 7>I just I need, I need a minute. So I

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<v Speaker 7>went to go outside a get in my car. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>already almost bawling my eyes out and I'm scary to

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<v Speaker 7>start my car and I look right on my steering

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<v Speaker 7>mill there's a dragonfly. And I mean she had she

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<v Speaker 7>had dragonfly tattoos. She had dragonflies all throughout her house.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean that was her thing, was dragonfly. So when

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<v Speaker 7>I've seen it there, I was just like it was

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<v Speaker 7>just it was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>No that's that's very cool. I like it. I love

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<v Speaker 1>that the comfort of knowing that they're there. Rob lost

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<v Speaker 1>his mom. I'm so sorry. Rob. A month ago your

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<v Speaker 1>mom passed.

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<v Speaker 10>Huh yeah, Mojo was uh you know, I listened to

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<v Speaker 10>you guys every day. I love listening to you guys.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm from the east side of the state. I live

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<v Speaker 10>in Miscegan now, so thank you. I just turned it on,

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<v Speaker 10>and you know, I, Mojo, I've been struggling really bad

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<v Speaker 10>this last month, you know. And so she passed away

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<v Speaker 10>July eighth. And then, like I said, every Saturday, me

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<v Speaker 10>and my fiance would talk to my mom on Saturdays.

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<v Speaker 10>And then the Saturday, right the Saturday after she passed,

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<v Speaker 10>I was outside and I'm on our butterfly had came by,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, and I the one thing I didn't get

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<v Speaker 10>to say to my mom before she actually passed. But

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<v Speaker 10>the one thing I wanted to do it is, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>come visit me in our dreams. Come, you know, come on,

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<v Speaker 10>I don't care, you know, I want to know that

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<v Speaker 10>she's there. And Saturday, and I was really I was

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<v Speaker 10>emotionally struggling really bad. I was crying really bad, and

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<v Speaker 10>I let the dogs out and brought them back in

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<v Speaker 10>and then I went back outside and I saw another

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<v Speaker 10>monarch butterfly. So you know, it's really rough. I mean,

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<v Speaker 10>I'm forty one and lost my mom at seventy. You know,

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<v Speaker 10>she was seventy shit, a full life to live and

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<v Speaker 10>it just kind of happened. And my parents were like

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<v Speaker 10>fifty years in November, and you know, it's just been

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<v Speaker 10>a tough time. I figured I call the mojo because

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<v Speaker 10>I know you have that hole in your heart too

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<v Speaker 10>from when you lost your mom.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, it's yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, if I'll ever be able to deal with it,

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<v Speaker 10>to be honest, can I.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell you, you know, you never it never becomes something

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<v Speaker 1>that you ever stop, you know, and I'm sure West

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<v Speaker 1>feels this way too, Shan where it uh, you never

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<v Speaker 1>stop missing on them and loving on them, but they

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<v Speaker 1>do send you those little comfort you know, signs, and honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>they're always there. Somebody asked me the question, They said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how can you believe in heaven and then

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<v Speaker 1>God and all the rest of that stuff? And I

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<v Speaker 1>said to him, I go to be honest with you

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<v Speaker 1>so that there's hope that one day I'll see him again.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, so absolutely, you know, but hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope our moms are are partying together right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And if my mom's up there in heaven, she's got

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<v Speaker 1>a cigarette in her hands, she's gonna sing.

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<v Speaker 10>You know. See, my mom doesn't have a cigarette, but

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<v Speaker 10>she's having a hell of a time and she's gonna

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<v Speaker 10>be there. Me and my fiancee get married in twelve days.

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<v Speaker 1>That's incredible.

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<v Speaker 10>We're getting ready for a wedding too.

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<v Speaker 1>You should do something with butterflies for your mom.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you should do something. Maybe release butterflies at your

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<v Speaker 1>wedding or something. We're butterfly pins.

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<v Speaker 10>I got to find him somewhere, all right. Well, I

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<v Speaker 10>appreciate it. Thank you, Mojo.

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<v Speaker 1>See you, buddy. Take care,