Speaker 1: All right, smo Joe in the morning. This topic of
Speaker 1: the Conversation podcast is the afghan. What's that?
Speaker 2: Do you know what an afghan is? Actually you don't.
Speaker 1: Isn't it that a purse? It's like a blanket, isn't.
Speaker 3: It's like a blanket, like a knit or I don't
Speaker 3: know if it's knit or crochet. It's like a blanket.
Speaker 1: My grandma and my mom were all about that was
Speaker 1: kind of like the thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, say, my grandma Grace, who passed away when I
Speaker 3: was a senior in high school, made them for everybody,
Speaker 3: all the grandkids, all the kids, all the cousins. Like,
Speaker 3: she loved making afghans and slippers for all the kids
Speaker 3: in the family.
Speaker 1: So my uncle, that's the name of a movie too,
Speaker 1: the afghan.
Speaker 3: They're so cozy. No, my uncle passed away this past week.
Speaker 3: His funeral was on Saturday. So my mom's brother passed away,
Speaker 3: and he was ill, and he was very old. Actually
Speaker 3: today would have been his eighty sixth birthday, so he
Speaker 3: was significantly older than my mom. But still so very sad.
Speaker 3: Like to lose a family member, especially goal like somebody
Speaker 3: who's you know, close in proximity in the family.
Speaker 1: To you.
Speaker 3: But my family, especially my mom's side of the family,
Speaker 3: not good with grief and loss and processing. And so
Speaker 3: my cousin Renee, this is her dad who had passed,
Speaker 3: was really struggling last week and kept asking for signs
Speaker 3: from our grandma. You know, please, Grandma, just let me
Speaker 3: know that my dad is up there in heaven with you,
Speaker 3: and you welcomed him, and you're taking good care of him,
Speaker 3: and that you and Grandpa are going to continue to
Speaker 3: take good care of him. Like, please just give me
Speaker 3: a sign that he's that my Dad's okay. This is
Speaker 3: a thing in our family of people asking for signs
Speaker 3: and dreams, and it happens all the time everywhere. For
Speaker 3: our family, me probably the least by far, but especially
Speaker 3: for my cousin Renee. My grandma sends her so many signs.
Speaker 3: Sure enough, later that same night that she prayed this prayer,
Speaker 3: she goes into a closet of her home, like a
Speaker 3: closet where she keeps like her son's clothes and shoes
Speaker 3: and everything, and the afghan that my grandma made for
Speaker 3: her family was just laying on the floor of the
Speaker 3: closet on top of the shoes, and she was like
Speaker 3: what in the actual heck, this is not.
Speaker 2: Where I keep it.
Speaker 3: So she was frozen, going okay, so right away she
Speaker 3: went and asked her husband Gary, did you like move
Speaker 3: the afghan?
Speaker 2: And he was like no.
Speaker 3: She went and asked her son Tyler, who lives with her,
Speaker 3: did you move the afghan? And he was like no,
Speaker 3: Why would I put it in a closet on top
Speaker 3: of shoes? How insane is that? And she's like, well,
Speaker 3: there's my sign from grandma that my dad's up there
Speaker 3: and she's got them and and he's good.
Speaker 1: Jerry didn't move the nobody grabbed the afghan.
Speaker 3: But this stuff happens to her all the time that
Speaker 3: you just Renee specifically Renee my mom a little bit
Speaker 3: Lucy a lot of times. Lucy never met my grandma
Speaker 3: but has this weird closeness where she has dreams about her,
Speaker 3: but especially my cousin Renee.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, and that's comforting. That's beautiful.
Speaker 2: It was very comforting.
Speaker 1: We always have the birds that will come like a cardinal,
Speaker 1: you know, from time to time.
Speaker 2: You know, like butterflies, I know the though.
Speaker 1: No, so my dad used to love cardinals like those
Speaker 1: were his favorite birds. And after he had passed. Jacob
Speaker 1: would have a cardinal sitting out on his window all
Speaker 1: the time, and Jacob kind of had a little special
Speaker 1: relationship there with my dad. But it was but it
Speaker 1: was every now or doves. My sister Pat always says
Speaker 1: that when the anniversary of my mother passing has happened,
Speaker 1: she sees white doves a lot at that time.
Speaker 3: So I totally forgot to put this in my topics
Speaker 3: to add to this. So this happened over the weekend
Speaker 3: as well. Wes's mom passed away. It's almost been nine years,
Speaker 3: almost ten, And yesterday he came in the house and
Speaker 3: he's like, Today's just one of those days. I wish
Speaker 3: I could call my mom. Like I wish I could
Speaker 3: call my mom. We don't have a lot going on.
Speaker 3: I just want to catch up with her and and
Speaker 3: just like tell her like how the weekend has been.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, like that makes me so sad
Speaker 3: that I'm able to call my mom.
Speaker 2: And he's not. All be damned you guys. We go
Speaker 2: out in.
Speaker 3: My driveway, our driveway to unload his jeep because I
Speaker 3: had a little home good situation yesterday. So we're unloading
Speaker 3: all this stuff on the driveway is a sticker that
Speaker 3: Wes's mom had like written on wes Nativity to store
Speaker 3: the Nativity set that she gave him that we have
Speaker 3: like up in our attic above the garage and I
Speaker 3: haven't taught. We haven't touched since we put Christmas stuff away.
Speaker 3: It was just stuck on the concrete of our driveway.
Speaker 3: And he was like, how crazy is that? I just said,
Speaker 3: I wish I could call my mom and we go outside,
Speaker 3: and that's on the driveway.
Speaker 2: It was I I like that, goosebumps.
Speaker 1: Wow. That told me that's yeah, you know what they
Speaker 1: they're sending signs if we when we've talked to the
Speaker 1: death lady tells her name no no, no, no, no, Rebecca Rosen.
Speaker 1: When we had Rebecca on the show, she would always
Speaker 1: say that they're sending She didn't talk to anybody. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe I ask, you mean you aren't getting signed?
Speaker 1: I know I feel the same way like I want them.
Speaker 2: But I just mentioned Grandma Ellis today.
Speaker 1: Grandmama, what's going on? Amanda?
Speaker 4: Good morning?
Speaker 1: Good morning.
Speaker 5: So my mom passed away about three years ago, and
Speaker 5: I one, I feel like when I ask for signs,
Speaker 5: I don't get them. But I have a folder on
Speaker 5: my phone that I've like labeled for like pictures that
Speaker 5: I feel like were signs. I saw that on like
Speaker 5: an idea.
Speaker 6: On TikTok, and I just thought that was like a
Speaker 6: really good idea, so I can like go.
Speaker 5: Look back at it when I'm like feeling sad and.
Speaker 6: Stuff like that.
Speaker 5: I've had some like pretty crazy ones.
Speaker 6: One of them I was like the anniversary of her
Speaker 6: passing and I went and bought like a lottery ticket
Speaker 6: and the ticket numbers were her and my dad's wedding anniversary.
Speaker 7: Wow, that's so And like for like Kevin.
Speaker 6: Anna, like I just feel like until you get them,
Speaker 6: like you just don't truly under like, like I totally
Speaker 6: get why it's skeptical and like sometimes I tell my
Speaker 6: friends that, like, oh, I like had a sign for
Speaker 6: my mom, and I know that it sounds crazy, but
Speaker 6: like I don't know, there's you. I just feel like
Speaker 6: you know it on a different level.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And honestly, sometimes you don't realize you're getting
Speaker 1: them when you're When you're getting them, like you almost
Speaker 1: have to really concentrate on it. It's kind of weird.
Speaker 1: Like especially you almost have to have something come up
Speaker 1: where you're like missing on them or like WestEd with
Speaker 1: you know, I wish I could talk to my mom today.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of friends of mine that have done
Speaker 1: the AI thing, where they've AI their loved ones voices
Speaker 1: talking to them. To me, I get weirded out by
Speaker 1: that whole deal, like that happening, But if it comforts you,
Speaker 1: you know what, take it? What about video for him?
Speaker 1: Like a video? It would be wild, It'd be wild.
Speaker 1: I don't have many recordings of my mother's voice. It'd
Speaker 1: be cool if AI could make more recordings of it,
Speaker 1: just to hear. What's a blind Claudia is on with us?
Speaker 1: Miss Mojo?
Speaker 4: Guys, Hello, I can have a story that relates Once
Speaker 4: upon a time I had a friend that passed.
Speaker 8: She died, and and you know, I never can the
Speaker 8: comfort to tell her I love her, I'm sorry and everything.
Speaker 8: And just when she died, when she died, she she
Speaker 8: she she she, she spoke to me. She spoke to
Speaker 8: me through electric.
Speaker 1: To what happened? What do you mean I mean shut
Speaker 1: your electricity off?
Speaker 8: No no, no, no no, don't play.
Speaker 2: Don't play with me.
Speaker 1: I thought maybe maybe you didn't pay the DT email there, No.
Speaker 8: I did. I was well paid in in the d
Speaker 8: T email.
Speaker 1: But you know the light bulbs, the light bulbs, like the.
Speaker 8: Light bulb was just flickering, yeahlicking.
Speaker 9: Like can you see the don't play with me?
Speaker 7: Well did he will?
Speaker 6: Did that?
Speaker 5: We did?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 8: Then that gave her give her the piece and respect
Speaker 8: that she does it.
Speaker 1: That's right. How dare these guys? I love you? I
Speaker 1: love you blind Claudia.
Speaker 9: We love you as valid question, Ashley, you have a
Speaker 9: friend that.
Speaker 1: Shows you signs?
Speaker 7: Yeah. So I was having a really hard time. That
Speaker 7: hadn't been that long since she had passed, and my
Speaker 7: girls are inside and I just like, I was like,
Speaker 7: I gotta just go for a drive. I was like,
Speaker 7: I just I need, I need a minute. So I
Speaker 7: went to go outside a get in my car. I'm
Speaker 7: already almost bawling my eyes out and I'm scary to
Speaker 7: start my car and I look right on my steering
Speaker 7: mill there's a dragonfly. And I mean she had she
Speaker 7: had dragonfly tattoos. She had dragonflies all throughout her house.
Speaker 7: I mean that was her thing, was dragonfly. So when
Speaker 7: I've seen it there, I was just like it was
Speaker 7: just it was crazy.
Speaker 1: No that's that's very cool. I like it. I love
Speaker 1: that the comfort of knowing that they're there. Rob lost
Speaker 1: his mom. I'm so sorry. Rob. A month ago your
Speaker 1: mom passed.
Speaker 10: Huh yeah, Mojo was uh you know, I listened to
Speaker 10: you guys every day. I love listening to you guys.
Speaker 10: I'm from the east side of the state. I live
Speaker 10: in Miscegan now, so thank you. I just turned it on,
Speaker 10: and you know, I, Mojo, I've been struggling really bad
Speaker 10: this last month, you know. And so she passed away
Speaker 10: July eighth. And then, like I said, every Saturday, me
Speaker 10: and my fiance would talk to my mom on Saturdays.
Speaker 10: And then the Saturday, right the Saturday after she passed,
Speaker 10: I was outside and I'm on our butterfly had came by,
Speaker 10: you know, and I the one thing I didn't get
Speaker 10: to say to my mom before she actually passed. But
Speaker 10: the one thing I wanted to do it is, you know,
Speaker 10: come visit me in our dreams. Come, you know, come on,
Speaker 10: I don't care, you know, I want to know that
Speaker 10: she's there. And Saturday, and I was really I was
Speaker 10: emotionally struggling really bad. I was crying really bad, and
Speaker 10: I let the dogs out and brought them back in
Speaker 10: and then I went back outside and I saw another
Speaker 10: monarch butterfly. So you know, it's really rough. I mean,
Speaker 10: I'm forty one and lost my mom at seventy. You know,
Speaker 10: she was seventy shit, a full life to live and
Speaker 10: it just kind of happened. And my parents were like
Speaker 10: fifty years in November, and you know, it's just been
Speaker 10: a tough time. I figured I call the mojo because
Speaker 10: I know you have that hole in your heart too
Speaker 10: from when you lost your mom.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's yeah.
Speaker 10: You know, if I'll ever be able to deal with it,
Speaker 10: to be honest, can I.
Speaker 1: Tell you, you know, you never it never becomes something
Speaker 1: that you ever stop, you know, and I'm sure West
Speaker 1: feels this way too, Shan where it uh, you never
Speaker 1: stop missing on them and loving on them, but they
Speaker 1: do send you those little comfort you know, signs, and honestly,
Speaker 1: they're always there. Somebody asked me the question, They said,
Speaker 1: you know, how can you believe in heaven and then
Speaker 1: God and all the rest of that stuff? And I
Speaker 1: said to him, I go to be honest with you
Speaker 1: so that there's hope that one day I'll see him again.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, so absolutely, you know, but hey,
Speaker 1: I hope our moms are are partying together right now.
Speaker 1: And if my mom's up there in heaven, she's got
Speaker 1: a cigarette in her hands, she's gonna sing.
Speaker 10: You know. See, my mom doesn't have a cigarette, but
Speaker 10: she's having a hell of a time and she's gonna
Speaker 10: be there. Me and my fiancee get married in twelve days.
Speaker 1: That's incredible.
Speaker 10: We're getting ready for a wedding too.
Speaker 1: You should do something with butterflies for your mom.
Speaker 2: You have to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you should do something. Maybe release butterflies at your
Speaker 1: wedding or something. We're butterfly pins.
Speaker 10: I got to find him somewhere, all right. Well, I
Speaker 10: appreciate it. Thank you, Mojo.
Speaker 1: See you, buddy. Take care,