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Speaker 3: These are the couple of pest plays that he's had

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Speaker 3: some four of this game.

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Speaker 1: I'll step up and shoot one downfield. It's in a

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Speaker 1: second hillan guys, go.

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Speaker 4: To the middle.

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Speaker 1: Jillian Love has it Love fifty Love.

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Speaker 5: Forty and out about at the thirty six yard long.

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Speaker 5: You got nothing forty year. They're just no way that

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Speaker 6: Well, he's back on the radio show, Dick, and I

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Speaker 6: gotta be totally honest with you. If I had lost

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Speaker 6: that game on Sunday and a radio station in Boston

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Speaker 6: called me to go on the air, I would have

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Speaker 6: told him to go himselves. Okay, But this guy's a

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Speaker 6: better man than me, and he's with us right now.

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Speaker 6: The color man for the Patriot Radio Network back again,

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Speaker 6: hung out on the radio row. Last week, Scott Zolac

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Speaker 6: with us on the program. Scotti, how are you man?

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Speaker 7: My two favorite names in sports radio. Can you shot

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Speaker 7: like that on your station?

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Speaker 6: No, that's why we got to bleep it out, by

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Speaker 6: the way, So yeah, we're all good to go there,

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Speaker 6: but maybe on on on the podcast we can. But

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Speaker 6: let's talk about the reaction. Man, how are people doing?

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Speaker 6: How you doing after Sunday's loss to the Hawks?

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Speaker 7: Man, well, I think you lost to a better team.

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Speaker 7: And it's short of my ignorance too, because you know,

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Speaker 7: when you play on the East Coast, we're an AFC team,

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Speaker 7: you guys are an NFC team, and you know I

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Speaker 7: travel with the team on the road, so we either

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Speaker 7: like the only time we really get to see is

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Speaker 7: in prime time on Sunday. Of course, I watched, you know,

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Speaker 7: the NFC Championship game after we beat Denver. We got

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Speaker 7: But you just thought, hey, you know, nice day, Drake

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Speaker 7: just wasn't for us. Couldn't protect him, couldn't get open,

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Speaker 7: and when we did get guys open, he really couldn't

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Speaker 7: that game, and we couldn't stop the run. Man, you

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Speaker 7: guys are a big, physical team, and the way you

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Speaker 7: Mike would like to build this team three years from now.

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Speaker 7: I mean, we come away from the year seventeen wins

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Speaker 7: play at the bottom line. You see your schedule for

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Speaker 7: next year, even the home games, it's ridiculous. We got

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Speaker 7: a hell of a schedule next year. You guys got

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Speaker 8: What surprised you the most? What jumped out a you

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Speaker 8: and just said wow?

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Speaker 7: In this game lon of scrimmage, control the line of

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Speaker 7: That's ball game. I got texting my kid, Hey, just

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Speaker 7: The third quarter just base, even when it was nine

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Speaker 7: In the first half, because you guys basically controlled the

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Speaker 7: We didn't have the bullet. We didn't have the bullets,

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Speaker 7: and you guys could cover, you could blitz, you could disguise.

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Speaker 7: You know, we just weren't ready right.

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Speaker 6: Scott Zolac, with US Patriot color commentator on the Paget

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Speaker 6: Radio Network, was with us in the last couple of

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Speaker 6: up and give us a new England perspective. Scotty, I'm

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Speaker 6: looking at Drake May after three quarters was eight of eighteen.

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Speaker 1: For sixty one.

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Speaker 6: Some people are wondering how how messed up was that shoulder?

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Speaker 6: Maybe you could tell being a former quarterback just watching

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and I think so. I think they sold it

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Speaker 7: Would he say, you know you shot it up? Yeah,

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Speaker 7: that's not great for a quarterback when you're shooting up

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Speaker 7: I bet you guys had eight guys had shot stuff

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Speaker 7: And he did not hit the same type of throws

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Speaker 3: Scott, what would you like to see Mike Rabil and

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Speaker 7: I didn't you know any offseason. You know, it might

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Speaker 7: yet and you know, it's just one of those things

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Speaker 7: I think it's a that's a wake up call too,

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Speaker 7: Rasini had to report he wants to play for Mike.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, Scott's olak again with us, Scotty, how many

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Speaker 9: Now?

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Speaker 1: Is this for you that you've covered with this team?

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Speaker 7: Me, I didn't. I didn't get the front end of

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Speaker 6: So my question would be this, because I think Dick,

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Speaker 7: Well, I think the one twenty eight to three, I

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Speaker 7: blood at that point. That was basically a home game

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Speaker 7: a pro Patriot crowd. We heard you guys at forty nine.

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Speaker 7: I think that was pretty even. But you know, like

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Speaker 7: we've been to a bunch of them, ends have gone.

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Speaker 7: It's sort of a turnover of a new era, new roster.

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Speaker 7: Look at it, see you guys. Le legion of boom

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Speaker 6: Totally agree on that about the thing being too spread out, ridiculous.

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Speaker 7: I mean, to have all that that's pretty sucks for it.

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Speaker 7: I should not get a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you a thousand percent more.

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Speaker 3: I just want to follow up on that thought, because

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Speaker 3: you know, you do have a fair comp super Bowl

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Speaker 3: forty nine and Super Bowl sixty are fair comps. The

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Speaker 3: it's the same distance from Arizona as it is the

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Speaker 8: It is from San Francisco, New England. So why do

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Speaker 3: You think it was fifty to fifty in Arizona and

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Speaker 3: seventy five to twenty five year.

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Speaker 7: you know, I think it's a confidence factor. Yeah, it

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Speaker 7: There were three bad throws and then he went to

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Speaker 7: He's not a mobile guy, and they made him force

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Speaker 7: That's how they go some days, or quarterbacks that have

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Speaker 1: Right, right, exactly. You guys have seen that too.

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Speaker 6: Out there for sure with the greatest of all time,

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Speaker 6: all right, man, Scott Zolac, listen, enjoy the off season, buddy,

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Speaker 1: Maybe we'll be doing this again next year in LA play.

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Speaker 7: I want to come downtown and have some fun there.

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Speaker 6: Done, well, we'll hit you up before that game happens

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Speaker 6: and we'll get together, all right, palace, Thanks.

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Speaker 7: Man, Right, congrats Seahawks, see you guys.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I don't know if I want.

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Speaker 6: I'd rather have some build up, you know, see how

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Speaker 3: I just play in revenge.

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Speaker 6: But I just again want that night to be all

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Speaker 6: I got a lot more to get to on a

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Speaker 1: Now we're world champions.

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Speaker 6: All right, So Dick and I were talking with Zolak

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Speaker 1: That is going to be a madhouse for that game.

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Speaker 6: Remember the Packer game in twenty fourteen when they came

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Speaker 1: You got seven months to go.

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Speaker 6: I would think that the Patriots would be kind of fun.

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Speaker 6: I guess a little bit because of the match. But

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Speaker 6: then again, you know what, man make them come to

439
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Speaker 6: town later in the year when the Hawks are ten

440
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Speaker 6: and two and they're fighting for a number one seed

441
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Speaker 6: and they're a four and four football team and taking

442
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Speaker 6: a massive step back.

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Speaker 1: Screw them, guys.

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Speaker 10: I think this is immensely obviously. I think I think

445
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Speaker 10: this is one of the most obvious bets. I don't

446
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Speaker 10: know if this is something you can bet on.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it is.

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Speaker 10: Of who the Seahaucks are playing in the opener, it's

449
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Speaker 10: the La Rams by a mile, because for a few reasons.

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Speaker 6: It can't be the Rams. The Rams are in Australia

451
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Speaker 6: Week one against the Niners. Wow, yeah, Niners. That's why

452
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Speaker 6: when I did the list, I didn't mention the Rams

453
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Speaker 6: and Niners because the Rams and Niners are playing in Sydney.

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Speaker 1: Oh right, so they're done.

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Speaker 10: Seeing that's it, because I would have thought, okay, you

456
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Speaker 10: want a division game at the start. That makes me think,

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Speaker 10: because you know they arrange it where they do like

458
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Speaker 10: or most of.

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Speaker 8: The time they'll do it.

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Speaker 10: They'll do an in division game right off the bat

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Speaker 10: and then they'll eventually come back around to the end.

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Speaker 10: That would make me think that maybe they do the

463
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Speaker 10: Cardinals for no reason, but that's.

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Speaker 1: Not going to drive ratings.

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Speaker 10: So Chicago, Chicago makes the most sense, probably because Chicago

466
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Speaker 10: was the team in the final four of the NFCAS.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's probably the answer.

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean they could they could bill it as

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Speaker 6: like a you know, future playoff match yup for a

470
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Speaker 6: future NFC championship match up between Chicago, UH and Seattle.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think the Giants are going to be

472
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Speaker 6: a decent team next year. I know a lot of people,

473
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Speaker 6: including Dick may laugh at me. I think the Cowboys

474
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Speaker 6: may bounce back next season. I mean, Dak Prescott had

475
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Speaker 6: a pretty good year this year, and nobody's talking about

476
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Speaker 6: it because the Cowboys stunt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I just think the Cowboys contract situation,

478
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Speaker 3: paying so many guys at the top end, it just

479
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Speaker 3: leaves no depth.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, I think could they make the playoffs?

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Speaker 1: Would it?

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Speaker 8: Would it shock me if they went ten and seven

483
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Speaker 8: and made the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Probably got half the damn conference makes the playoffs now, right?

485
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Speaker 1: So whatever? All right, we got some talkbacks here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so this this, this all this topic that all

487
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Speaker 6: of a sudden we've stumbled upon. I will tell you

488
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Speaker 6: this that our our leader, uh, the guy that hangs

489
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Speaker 6: out in the office back there and pretends to be

490
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Speaker 6: on Zoom calls when really he's watching golf videos Purple

491
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Speaker 6: sheet which Moore. Okay, we asked him off the air,

492
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Speaker 6: how much credit do you give Pete Carroll?

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Speaker 1: You said it rhymes or zero? None? Man, people are

494
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Speaker 1: just crapping on this guy. He even gave less than me.

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Speaker 10: Guys, I'm at least giving Pete Carroll some of the left.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not the hater here.

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Speaker 7: He's the hater.

498
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Speaker 6: Kenny Walker, Zach Sharberonney, Jackson Smith and Jake but Jason Meers,

499
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Speaker 6: Michael Dixon, boy I Mafe, Jaron Reid, Riek Waldan Devin

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Speaker 6: with Uspoon, Julian Love, Leonard Williams, Chennanowosu, Kobe Bryant, Bradford, Cross, Lucas.

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Speaker 6: We're all brought in either by him directly or on

502
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Speaker 6: his watch when he was the head coach of this football.

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Speaker 8: Developed by him.

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Speaker 3: Correct, Like, do we not give Pete any credit for

505
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Speaker 3: making for turning those guys from rookies into third, fourth, fifth,

506
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Speaker 3: six year veterans that are some of them Pro Bowl

507
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Speaker 3: into All Pro caliber?

508
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Speaker 1: Here is what the text line thinks. Go ahead, I'm.

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Speaker 11: Gonna give Pete about ten percent of the credit for

510
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Speaker 11: what we saw. Yes, some of that roster is his,

511
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Speaker 11: but that RS was his. Was falling apart and smoking

512
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Speaker 11: cigars in the locker room after the season was over,

513
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Speaker 11: not making the playoffs.

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Speaker 7: So I don't know.

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Speaker 11: I think you lost it as much as he held

516
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Speaker 11: it down. On the other hand, Russ saying Gohawks is

517
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Speaker 11: the most cringe worzy worthy thing I've seen in a while.

518
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Speaker 7: Like we won because we got rid of him.

519
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Speaker 6: I did think I had that same thought. Did you

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Speaker 6: see that, by the way, Russell Wilson was at the

521
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Speaker 6: game with Sierra. Yes, and Sierra was wearing like some

522
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Speaker 6: big Russian spies like us hat whatever the hell it

523
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Speaker 6: was on her head on Sunday and Russell's walking by

524
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Speaker 6: go Hawks, you know whatever, And it was kind of like,

525
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Speaker 6: you know, dude, really like it's not really about you,

526
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Speaker 6: and you always find a way to make it about you,

527
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Speaker 6: like you know how Petros hates Lebron. Yes, you know,

528
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Speaker 6: I do know that, because Petro's his claim is that

529
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Speaker 6: Lebron always finds a way to make it about him.

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Speaker 6: It kind of feels like Russell, somehow someway finds a

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Speaker 6: way to always inject himself into everything, even if it's

532
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Speaker 6: just a little bit right. And again, does the guy

533
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Speaker 6: have a right to go to the game? Absolutely? Does

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Speaker 6: he have a right to root for his old team,

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Speaker 6: and let bygones be bygones. Absolutely were there are a

536
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Speaker 6: lot of people that enjoyed seeing Russell Wilson there rooting

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Speaker 6: for the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: Yes there were.

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Speaker 6: I am though the skeptical bastard that thinks that was

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Speaker 6: calculated that he was there on Sunday for some other reasons.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just talkback. Guy talked about the cigars at the

542
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Speaker 3: end of the twenty twenty season. I mean they were meant,

543
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Speaker 3: they were meant for Julian Love's first child.

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Speaker 1: But it was not a good look. It was not

545
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Speaker 1: a good look.

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Speaker 3: But yet we look back on that now two years,

547
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Speaker 3: two years since, and we look at the type of

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Speaker 3: person Julian Love is.

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Speaker 8: Right right, I'm gonna side on Julian Love.

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Speaker 6: No, I get yes, No, I mean there's two ways

551
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Speaker 6: to look at it. How you feel now, how you

552
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Speaker 6: felt then. I totally agree with you. Looking back now,

553
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Speaker 6: it's like, hey, no harm, no foul. What I would

554
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Speaker 6: have done if I were them when I was celebrating

555
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Speaker 6: a baby, I would have put like some blue or

556
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Speaker 6: pink balloons in the locker room to make it obvious.

557
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Speaker 6: This is why we're doing this, right, we're not small

558
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Speaker 6: and cigars because the season's over.

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Speaker 1: How the hell would anybody have even known that?

560
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Speaker 6: If all they saw was a photo, they'd think, Wow,

561
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Speaker 6: you guys are just a bunch of lazy bastards.

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Speaker 1: Celebrate at the end of the year and I can

563
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Speaker 1: go home.

564
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Speaker 10: If you did have blue balloons, people would think that, wow,

565
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Speaker 10: they're celebrating the Seahawks sek blue and they're smugging cigars.

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Speaker 5: What the hell.

567
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Speaker 1: But there's two things now you look back on.

568
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Speaker 6: It's that one and when McDonald showed up and took

569
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Speaker 6: down some of the pictures of the past Super Bowl

570
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Speaker 6: championship team at the vMac. Now we get to go

571
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Speaker 6: back to the vMac and see what he puts up

572
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Speaker 6: in their place.

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Speaker 3: He's gotta look at all these super Bowl pictures I

574
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Speaker 3: got boys, he's gonna totally wipe out Richard Sherman and

575
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Speaker 3: Cam Chancellor.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be gone like farks on the wind.

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Speaker 6: All you'll see is Sam Darnold, Leonard Williams and Chennanewo

578
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Speaker 6: Su and Devin Witherspoon.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's do more at talkbacks. What do you

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Speaker 1: got a very small percent?

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Speaker 4: Like maybe one.

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Speaker 12: You know, you have to think about the guys that

583
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Speaker 12: we got rid of, Gino DK. You're not gonna win

584
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Speaker 12: with those guys you saw that last year. And the

585
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Speaker 12: guys that came in, Ernest Jones, Drake may Taylkatta, like

586
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Speaker 12: those are all guys that that are other pieces.

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Speaker 1: That Drake, Thomas, Pete Carroll type of guys he met.

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Speaker 6: Well, remember the conversation we had last week. You asked me,

589
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Speaker 6: would you trade Drake Drake May for Sam Darnald? Well,

590
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Speaker 6: would you trade Drake May for Sam Darnold?

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Speaker 8: He's not a rookie deal. Yeah, just because of that.

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Speaker 10: You would, only because of that, because I don't think

593
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Speaker 10: he's a better quarterback. You could literally build the best

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Speaker 10: team in the NFL with Drake May's.

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Speaker 6: You have the best team in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: That's a great point.

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Speaker 8: That's a great point.

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Speaker 10: When we were a phrase, you could get every best

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Speaker 10: free agent available at their position, of like this coming

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Speaker 10: off season around Drake May.

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Speaker 1: It's a bit of an exaggeration, but I know where

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Speaker 1: you're going.

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Speaker 6: You could, though, with that money, with an the extra

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Speaker 6: thirty million dollars, see extra, you could not get every

605
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Speaker 6: the best free agent at every position for thirty million dollars.

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Speaker 8: Ninety million dollars to spend this off sea, you know,

607
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Speaker 8: was nice. We got rid of whiners, you know that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, DK, Gino Smith like Jamal was Jamal like we liked.

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Speaker 3: We liked Gino and we liked Dk, but there were

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Speaker 3: elements about them that we really didn't like.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with Gino, Like, have you seen.

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Speaker 3: Highlights of Gino Smith on the sidelines when he's pissed off?

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Speaker 1: Have you seen highlights of Ernest Jones drop a F

614
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Speaker 1: bombs everywhere? I think, I think he's emotional. All these

615
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Speaker 1: guys are emotional. But I it's a bad thing. I agree,

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Speaker 1: that's that's kind of a low blow.

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Speaker 6: I don't think, well, I don't know if it's a

618
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Speaker 6: low blow, but I agree with you that I that

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Speaker 6: that didn't bother me.

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Speaker 1: Man, the team's winning, You're not winning.

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Speaker 6: He's pissed off, he's passionate, he's angry whatever, same thing

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Speaker 6: with I mean, look, I mean DK metcalf right, you

623
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Speaker 6: can't control himself, couldn't control them?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 3: Oh, and Reek's in that boat. We still have Reeke

626
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Speaker 3: on this team? Wall, I guess we don't because we

627
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Speaker 3: haven't receiven him yet, right.

628
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Speaker 1: Right, But I mean he could have cost them big time?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely right?

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Speaker 7: All right?

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Speaker 1: What's next?

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Speaker 13: I mean, you can give Pete Carroll a bit of

633
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Speaker 13: credit for this roster, but you can't really play that game.

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Speaker 13: I mean, if you look at the Patriots, right, who

635
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Speaker 13: drafted Drake may Well?

636
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Speaker 4: Girod Mayo did who drafted Christian Gonzalez.

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Speaker 13: Belichick did, so. I mean, you can play this game.

638
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Speaker 13: It's kind of a slippery slope. So sometimes you just

639
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 13: gotta you need a fresh start, you gotta start over.

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Speaker 13: So yeah, you know, no hard.

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Speaker 4: Feelings for Pete.

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Speaker 13: We love him, we should so thanks to everybody.

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Speaker 6: I'm just saying that the difference between Gerrod Mayo and

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Speaker 6: Pete Carroll is that Pete Carroll was there for how

645
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Speaker 6: many years in Seattle? How long was his career here?

646
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Speaker 6: Fourteen years, fifteen years, whatever it was, And there's like

647
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Speaker 6: twenty guys that we just named that he was a

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Speaker 6: part of bringing in two years before they won the

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Speaker 6: Super Bowl. Mayo wasn't there long enough to have that

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Speaker 6: kind of an impact. Now, I'd have to go back

651
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Speaker 6: and look at how many guys Belichick brought in. I'm

652
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Speaker 6: sure there's a bunch of guys on the team that

653
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Speaker 6: Belichick came because and right, tons of guys that he

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Speaker 6: brought and maybe he does deserve some credit for that.

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Speaker 6: But I do wonder. I do wonder if Pete Carroll

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Speaker 6: were still the head coach what this team would have done,

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Speaker 6: because I don't see them winning the championship. I don't

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Speaker 6: even see them making the NFC Championship. I do think

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Speaker 6: the roster, combined with McDonald's scheme, was the potion that

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Speaker 6: you had to have, And there's no other outcome that

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Speaker 6: would have been equal to a Super Bowl if you

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Speaker 6: had kept Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 3: So you're saying, same exact roster, just Pete's the coach. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: they're in the playoffs. They don't win the division and

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Speaker 3: they lose in the first round.

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Speaker 1: They don't correct. I agree with that totally.

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Speaker 8: Now they may have played the NFC South champs. So

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Speaker 8: maybe the.

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Speaker 6: Question is, does Pete Carroll give up on Geno Smith

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Speaker 6: and bring in Sam Darnold as his starting quarterback?

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not.

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Speaker 6: I mean he brought him to Vegas, but I think

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Speaker 6: he brought him to Vegas because Vegas just needed a.

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Speaker 1: Guy, right.

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Speaker 6: I mean, if Pete Carroll really wanted to win a title,

677
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Speaker 6: is there is it possible he would have said this

678
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Speaker 6: ain't working with Gino. I mean, dude, he did that

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Speaker 6: early in his career. And see, I don't get rid

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Speaker 6: of a bunch of guys. Is he more loyal now

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Speaker 6: than he was back then? He shouldn't be. He's seventy

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Speaker 6: five years old. He cleanse big time.

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Speaker 1: All right, go ahead.

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Speaker 9: Pete Carroll is the only coach in Seahawk history to

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Speaker 9: take the Seattle Seahawks to two Super Bowls. He helped

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Speaker 9: build and bring in people as his time as coach,

687
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Speaker 9: and all of a sudden, because he has some mediocre seasons,

688
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Speaker 9: we act like he had no control and no say

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Speaker 9: in the personnel. Jackson's wrong. Pete Carroll helped build this

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Speaker 9: roster period.

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Speaker 10: Didn't say he didn't have Jackson. You aren't listening to me, man,

692
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Speaker 10: nobody's listening to me. But that's the usual thing. Just

693
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Speaker 10: ask my wife what he said. Nobody listens to me.

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Speaker 10: That's the usual thing. Just asked my wife listens to you.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think nobody.

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Speaker 10: Listens because you're softy maller and you don't listen to anybody.

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Speaker 6: Does that you want said? Nobody listens to you? Ask

698
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Speaker 6: your wife because she doesn't listen to ask. Okay, got you?

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Speaker 6: I thought you met your wife said nobody listens to

700
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Speaker 6: you on this show.

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Speaker 1: You're saying listens to you at home? Is that what

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Speaker 1: you're saying? God, I don't know.

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Speaker 10: Dick's going along with the bits softie. He is making

704
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Speaker 10: a funny he doesn't listen to me.

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Speaker 1: I was just surprised, angry you were.

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Speaker 8: Well, that was the only thing that got me.

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Speaker 6: It was initially broached the topic that you were like

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Speaker 6: ready to just rip somebody's head off.

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Speaker 1: I just you were offended by the end.

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Speaker 3: You would have come out and just said, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna give I'm.

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Speaker 8: Not going to give Pete a lot of credit and

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Speaker 8: then explained why.

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Speaker 3: I think I would have had a different take than

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Speaker 3: I'm not giving Pete a lot of credit here.

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Speaker 10: It came right after Dick you said you wanted to

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Speaker 10: give him a bunch of credits. You said you said

718
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Speaker 10: you would give him a lot of credit for the

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Speaker 10: roster or whatever. I mean a lot, definitely you're wording,

720
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Speaker 10: and your tone was very crediting him. Yes, and that

721
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Speaker 10: was your tone, And I'm like, and I think we were, honestly,

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Speaker 10: where we're probably at, regardless of tone is pretty close

723
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Speaker 10: to each other. But mine was just taken aback from

724
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Speaker 10: how much credit it sounded like you want to got

725
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Speaker 10: you Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Never forget Jackson doesn't know Dick. Don't know that guy.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna break Michael Jeannetti spot track dot com. I'm

728
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Speaker 6: gonna join us at six pm to night. What's next

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Speaker 6: for the Hawks roster? Mike Homngrin as well, around six

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Speaker 6: forty or so right here on ninety three three kJ

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Speaker 1: We never wentver, Matt.

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Speaker 5: We believed in each other.

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Speaker 9: We loved each other.

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Speaker 1: Now we're world champions.

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Speaker 5: Out back to Sufi and Dick on your home for

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Speaker 5: the twelfth Man.

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Speaker 1: We got the best fans in the world.

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Speaker 5: Hey shigned out to the twelve.

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Speaker 6: All right, Michael Jeannetti, spot track dot com. We're gonna

742
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Speaker 6: join us next segment and talk about the future of

743
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Speaker 6: the Seahawks roster, free agents, contracts, renegotiations, salary cap figures,

744
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Speaker 6: the whole thing. Coming up a six pm Mike Holmgren

745
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Speaker 6: around six forty or so tonight on the radio show.

746
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Speaker 6: But before we get back to some foosball chatter and

747
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Speaker 6: the Seahawks, Sham's charania.

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Speaker 1: Is he now with the Atletic or ESPN? Where's the

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Speaker 1: at now?

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Speaker 6: ESPN today was talking about the timeline for expansion conversation

751
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Speaker 6: in the NBA this year.

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Speaker 1: Check out this is.

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Speaker 14: Big business potential, and I'm told there is a Board

754
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Speaker 14: of governors meeting in March where the expectation is there's

755
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Speaker 14: going to be some more information financials on what it

756
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Speaker 14: looks like when you go get a couple more expansion teams, potentially,

757
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Speaker 14: what it means for the rest of the league, what

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Speaker 14: it means, how much is of the valuation of those

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Speaker 14: two teams going to be, what does the league layout

760
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Speaker 14: look like? And then in potitionally the summer, as twenty

761
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Speaker 14: twenty six goes on, have a potential determination but minor

762
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Speaker 14: standing as Seattle and Las Vegas are the front runners

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Speaker 14: for expansion teams.

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Speaker 15: And then from there a Western Conference team moving to

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Speaker 15: the Eastern Conference. So you think about teams in that region,

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Speaker 15: right Memphis, Minnesota, New Orleans?

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Speaker 1: Could one of those.

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Speaker 15: Teams potentially move to the Eastern Conference. These are conversations

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Speaker 15: that we'll be picking up as twenty twenty six goes on.

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Speaker 15: This is still a few years away from actually taking

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Speaker 15: place as far as these expansion teams being put forth.

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Speaker 4: For the public.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so everybody understands that Vegas and Seattle are the

774
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Speaker 6: front runners right now, that's like, come on. So the

775
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Speaker 6: only question is will it be expansion, will it be relocation?

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Speaker 1: And if they do want to expand, will they do

777
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Speaker 1: it now? Will they wait?

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Speaker 6: Interesting hearing them say, Hey, it's still going to be

779
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Speaker 6: a couple of years. So let's say they announced this

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Speaker 6: July that Seattle and Vegas are getting basketball teams. We're

781
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Speaker 6: talking about twenty six, twenty seven, twenty seven to twenty eight.

782
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Speaker 6: You may not see a team here until November and

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Speaker 6: October twenty twenty eight, correct, So it could be two

784
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Speaker 6: and a half years away from showing up, which I'm

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Speaker 6: fine with.

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Speaker 1: I just want to have a date. Just give me

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Speaker 1: a date and we can start the countdown.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think that's the only disappointment because I think,

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Speaker 3: you know, a couple of years ago, there was a

791
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Speaker 3: lot of steam that said twenty six twenty seven, right,

792
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Speaker 3: this fall's going to be the year that we were

793
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Speaker 3: going to have basketball and now and then you know,

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Speaker 3: a year later, it's like, eh, looks like it's closer

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Speaker 3: to twenty seven to twenty eight, And now we're getting

796
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Speaker 3: so long that it's looking closer to twenty eight twenty nine.

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Speaker 3: But as we as we push the timeline back, we

798
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Speaker 3: also get a better percentage chance that it's actually going

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Speaker 3: to happen.

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Speaker 6: Well, Look, I mean I want them back here as

801
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Speaker 6: soon as possible, like like everybody, because I think the

802
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Speaker 6: longer your weight, the less people get to enjoy it.

803
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Speaker 6: For crying out loud, right, I mean, you're not replacing

804
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 6: eighty year olds with eighty year olds. You're replacing eighty

805
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 6: year olds with embryos that have no idea what the

806
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 6: hell's going on. So I think you got to get

807
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Speaker 6: this done as soon as possible. But I think the

808
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Speaker 6: first step is actually getting this thing to be approved.

809
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Speaker 6: I'm starting to think, Dick, that there might be a

810
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Speaker 6: better shot at relocation.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of franchises that are struggling

812
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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 6: And if I'll just say this, if I'm an NBA

814
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Speaker 6: owner and I'm going into these meetings in what you

815
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Speaker 6: say May is right, is that when the meetings are March.

816
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Speaker 6: If I'm an NBA owner and I'm going into these

817
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 6: meetings in March, I want somebody to tell me why

818
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Speaker 6: does it make sense for us to add two more

819
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Speaker 6: teams as opposed to relocate a struggling franchise and keep

820
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Speaker 6: the same slice of pie that I have? Right Now

821
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Speaker 6: that's what I want to know.

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Speaker 8: And I think that's a fair question.

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Speaker 3: And then you've got your two least valuable franchises are

824
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Speaker 3: the Memphis Grizzlies at three. This is just you know,

825
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Speaker 3: according to a website, how much they're worth. You don't

826
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Speaker 3: really know, right, But Memphis is three point five, New

827
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Speaker 3: Orleans is three point six. If that's the valuation, then

828
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Speaker 3: it's not going to cost Seattle seven billion dollars to

829
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Speaker 3: buy one of those teams if their valuation is three

830
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Speaker 3: point five or three point six, right, But it is

831
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Speaker 3: going to cost Seattle closer to seven if it's an

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Speaker 3: expansion team.

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Speaker 1: Well it is. Honestly, I don't really care. That's not

834
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Speaker 1: my money, you know, I mean, but it.

835
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Speaker 3: Could scare off investors, right if the price tag gets

836
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Speaker 3: too high, Right, you're worry about scaring off.

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Speaker 6: I don't think they're gonna have a problem finding investors.

838
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Speaker 6: I really don't.

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Speaker 1: I agree with Vegas and Seattle will be just fine.

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Speaker 6: My concern is that, again, if you get an expansion team,

841
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 6: you're gonna be slicing this thing up. Even more so.

842
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 6: If you own the Knicks, or you own the Jazz,

843
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 6: or you own the Heat or whatever. There's just too

844
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Speaker 6: many teams that are struggling. I mean, look at New Orleans,

845
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Speaker 6: like their lease on the Smoothie King Center is coming

846
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Speaker 6: up fairly.

847
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Speaker 1: Soon, and they don't care. They just don't give a damn.

848
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Speaker 6: This is the second time that we've put an NBA

849
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Speaker 6: team in New Orleans and they're not embracing it.

850
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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 6: Part of it is because the team stinks, Yes right,

852
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 6: I mean, you got to give the fans a little

853
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 6: bit of a break that they've really never had anything

854
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 6: to sink their teeth into. But that's part of this game.

855
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 6: You go around the NBA, you see empty arenas all

856
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 6: the time. I turn on Sports Center or whatever, and

857
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 6: I see massive amounts of empty seats in places like Memphis, Atlanta,

858
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Speaker 6: New Orleans, Charlotte, for example. So I would be really,

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Speaker 6: really curious if I were an NBA owner to say,

860
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Speaker 6: whoa wait a minute, wait a minute, you're asking me

861
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Speaker 6: to give less money. Now, you're gonna give me some

862
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 6: money in my pocket from the jump, because you're gonna

863
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 6: pay me for this expansion team. But does it make

864
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 6: more sense to just move one of these crap franchises

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Speaker 6: to Seattle let them flourish there?

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Speaker 1: And we all get to keep our one thirtieth pie.

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Speaker 7: That's it.

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Speaker 3: What's amazing about this list that I'm looking at, which

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Speaker 3: has valuation, has revenue, has operating income?

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Speaker 8: Is the change the percent change in valuation?

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Speaker 3: Right, I'm just gonna read just on average, all right,

872
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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna pick some twenty five thirty thirty six.

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Speaker 3: This is percentage change in valuation twenty five thirty twelve,

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty, seventeen eighteen. I'm just randomly picking. I'm not

875
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Speaker 3: taking the top ones. If you want me to, just

876
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 3: just organized by the top ones. It's forty one thirty

877
00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 3: six thirty four. I mean, whatever this, whatever the prices,

878
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 3: and you've said this for decades, whatever the price is,

879
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 3: it's gonna skyrocket over the next five or.

880
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Speaker 6: Ten years und percent. All right, we're gonna break. What's

881
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 6: next for the Seahawks roster? Who's coming, who's going? How

882
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 6: much will the new owners or Jody have to pony

883
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 6: up to keep guys like Kenny Walker? Is it time

884
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 6: to extend Darnold? What about Jackson Smith and Jigma and

885
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Speaker 6: Devin Witherspoon. That's all next with Michael Jeannetti from spot

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Speaker 6: Track on ninety three three KJRFM on the radio show.

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Speaker 6: When it comes to free agents, contracts, cap space, all

888
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Speaker 6: that stuff, only one place.

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Speaker 6: That's spot treck s p O t R a C

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Speaker 6: dot com And the founder editor at spot track dot

892
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Speaker 6: com is our friend Michael Jeannetti, joining us right now

893
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Speaker 6: on the radio program.

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Speaker 1: Mike, welcome back. How are you man?

895
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Speaker 4: Doing well? Good to be back. Congrats to you guys

896
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 4: out there.

897
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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you very much.

898
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Speaker 6: The role that Dick and I played must be acknowledged,

899
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 6: and I thank you for acknowledging. So let's let's first

900
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,959
Speaker 6: of all talk about this team as it's presently constructed. Man,

901
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 6: how big of a bargain do you think the Seahawks

902
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 6: just got with Sam Donald, Mike and his contract that

903
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 6: they just paid out for twenty twenty five.

904
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 16: Well, I'm sure glad he hadn't sent its built into

905
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 16: this thing, because he maxed those out and got himself

906
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 16: over the forty million mark, which is you know, platable

907
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 16: for a one year deal. But what we're looking ahead

908
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 16: here at is a situation that you know, could get

909
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 16: contentious if we're talking about Donald dropping down cash wise

910
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 16: and coming off this big Super Bowl victory, so decent

911
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 16: for one year, But this contract was always going to

912
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 16: be one year. Then we'll see what happens. I think

913
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 16: most of the side was going to be one year

914
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 16: and then maybe we'll move on. And that's certainly not

915
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 16: the case here, right.

916
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 6: Hey, Mike, Before we move off on Sam, and there's

917
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 6: more on him there, I do want to get in

918
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Speaker 6: real quick. There's this kind of report rumor going around

919
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 6: the web that Sam Darnold actually lost money because of

920
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 6: California's jock tax.

921
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: Is that accurate?

922
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 16: Yeah, just in terms of when the Super Bowl pay

923
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 16: was handed out. So there's a stipen it's abou one

924
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 16: hundred and thirty thousand dollars for the winning team, and

925
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,959
Speaker 16: when you do the taxes and you talk your factor

926
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 16: that into what he made over the course.

927
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Speaker 4: Of the season.

928
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 16: The accountants that are heck a less smarter than me

929
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 16: with this stuff basically said it was a net negative

930
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 16: for Sam Donald to show up and playing that Super Bowl.

931
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Speaker 8: That's unbelievable on Sam though.

932
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 3: Would there be any reason for the Seahawks just to

933
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: tear up his contract and start over now versus like,

934
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 3: let's say he comes back in year two of his

935
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 3: contract and he is, you know, fifth for the MVP,

936
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 3: which is now of the realm of possibility. He was

937
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 3: like eighth last year for the MVP and might end

938
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 3: up costing them more money in the future.

939
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: Would that be a good idea.

940
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 8: For them to do?

941
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 4: Yeah?

942
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 16: Right, I mean it's tough to have a higher high

943
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 16: than what he just had, but you're right. Productivity wise,

944
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 16: he could certainly get himself into a bigger conversation with

945
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 16: one more nice year in Seattle. I think you do

946
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 16: everything right now for your Seattle And by the way,

947
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 16: you've got to be proactive as a team. You can't

948
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 16: wait for the public outcry or Sam Darden who camp

949
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 16: to come and say, let's talk about this. I think

950
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 16: the team's got to be proactive with every option on

951
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 16: the table.

952
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 4: Do we need to sit down and talk long term?

953
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 16: Do we need to talk about some sort of pot

954
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 16: sweetener and bring some money forward from twenty twenty seven?

955
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 16: Do we need to bump up these incentives a little bit?

956
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 16: I think just throw everything on the table and see

957
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 16: kind of where he is right now, because quite franky,

958
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 16: he may not want to sign a new contract, noting

959
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 16: that he could up his ante a little bit in

960
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 16: twenty twenty six and see where things heads from there.

961
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 6: Right, well, all right, let's say, just for giggles, he

962
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 6: plays twenty twenty six, he does well, you know, maybe

963
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 6: slightly better than he did this year. Second year with

964
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 6: the Hawks and all his teammates and all that stuff.

965
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 6: He's his cap hit for next year is thirty eight

966
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 6: thirty seven point nine million. What could we expect in

967
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 6: twenty twenty seven Sam Darnold to be potentially making on

968
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 6: a brand new contract.

969
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 16: Well, I consider right now our mass says about fifty

970
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 16: three million.

971
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:52,959
Speaker 4: So what we're talking about.

972
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 16: What we're talking about really is that one year padding

973
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 16: that Jared Gopp got in Detroit, and then let's extend

974
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 16: Jared Gopp to fifty three million a year. So we're

975
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 16: on a very similar track with what happened there, which

976
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 16: is good news for Donald So you know, and that's

977
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 16: that's right now.

978
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 4: That's basically just after the one year.

979
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 16: So if this happens again in twenty twenty six and

980
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 16: we've got quarterbacks taking sixty to sixty three million, like

981
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 16: I think Mark Jackson is going to do, then everything gets.

982
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 4: Up a little higher.

983
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 16: So, like you said, maybe maybe jumping on something today.

984
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 16: It makes some sense, but I have a feeling we're

985
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 16: gonna be waiting and talking about this again this time

986
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 16: next year.

987
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, under no circumstance.

988
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 3: Do you see them just playing him into his third

989
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 3: year of his contract at forty one point nine in

990
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven? Do you unless he's I guess, unless

991
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 3: he's bad next year and they're like worried about him

992
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 3: for twenty twenty seven, Right.

993
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't think so, right.

994
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 16: I mean, the cash is twenty seven and a half

995
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 16: for twenty twenty six, and Mitch Vincentez that gets over

996
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 16: thirty obviously, But I don't think you walk into twenty

997
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 16: twenty seven and I'm expiring contract with a quarterback who

998
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 16: has now shown multiple times over that he can do

999
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 16: this and hope for the best. I think all parties

1000
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 16: will come together and sort of collectively say, let's figure

1001
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 16: something out here.

1002
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 6: Well, you got two guys that were both drafted in

1003
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 6: the first round, and Devin Witherspoon and Jackson Smith and

1004
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 6: Jigba got the fifth year option, which I'm certain the

1005
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 6: Hawks will pick up right on both those guys, and

1006
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 6: then they're both eligible for contract extensions during this coming

1007
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 6: off season.

1008
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: Let's talk about both those guys. Start with JSN.

1009
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 16: Yeah, no question on the fifth round pick, on the

1010
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 16: fifth year options, just because you want to you want

1011
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 16: to expedite that process, and then you want to make

1012
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 16: your extension a little bit smaller so you've got some

1013
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 16: some cap room to move around here With JSN, this

1014
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 16: guy to the limit. Unfortunately, he's he said, every monocravy

1015
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 16: marker that you're asking him to hit. We're talking about

1016
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 16: the Chase contract at forty million a year most likely,

1017
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 16: even though mathematically it's about thirty eight in our system

1018
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 16: right now.

1019
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 4: So we're talking, you know, three years at one twenty.

1020
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 16: In terms of new money, new years added on to

1021
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 16: that fourth year, plus the fifth year option.

1022
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 4: So huge, huge contract extension.

1023
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 16: For a player that is kind of escalated himself to

1024
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 16: the top of the market quickly.

1025
00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 3: I know Sophie wants to ask you on Spoon got

1026
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 3: a follow up on JSN. I looked at the top

1027
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 3: wide receiver contracts and the teams that were paying the

1028
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 3: wide receivers the top money, the top ten teams, Michael,

1029
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 3: they want to combined one playoff game and that was

1030
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 3: that was the forty nine ers. So is this a

1031
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 3: blip on the radar, and wide receivers are really worth

1032
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 3: what they're paid. Or have we just gone so out

1033
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 3: of whack on the wide receiver contracts that it's costing

1034
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 3: teams wins.

1035
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 16: It's high, it's it's really gone up and blown quickly,

1036
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 16: many of these position rehups. But the wide receivers is

1037
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 16: because of how quickly the game turned into a pass

1038
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 16: first league. Right, So I do think we're a little

1039
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 16: high in summer guard, but so's the cap, right.

1040
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 4: I mean we're.

1041
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 16: Getting a ten percent increase on the salary camp every year,

1042
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 16: so agents have so much wiggle room to walk in

1043
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 16: there and say, this guy's getting X touches you know

1044
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 16: per game.

1045
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 4: It's a passing league. You need your quarterback to have.

1046
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 16: An ELP option. That's certainly what JSN is. So I

1047
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 16: get it that number is probably high, but that's even

1048
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 16: more reason to do it right now early while he's

1049
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 16: early twenties, and you know you're going to have your

1050
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 16: prime years and you give yourself some extra years on

1051
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 16: the back end to spread out the cap as much

1052
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,959
Speaker 16: as possible and make this work for the whole team.

1053
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: What's the number again?

1054
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 6: You gave us on Jackson Smiths and JIGM because I

1055
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 6: almost broke my hand right that number.

1056
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: Now, what'd you say, Michael?

1057
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 16: It's forty, It's forty. The mat says almost forty, and

1058
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 16: just logic, the eye test says forty with where these

1059
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 16: wide receivers are going.

1060
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 4: So I don't think you can push back any harder

1061
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 4: on that.

1062
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's talk about cornerback.

1063
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 6: I mean, you've got a football team right now that

1064
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 6: is twenty ninth in the NFL in positional spending at

1065
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 6: corner That's amazing.

1066
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 1: Okay, that's gonna go off.

1067
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 8: And they're like the best in the league.

1068
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 6: What's gonna happen with Devin Witherspoon?

1069
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 4: My man, it's a similar conversation.

1070
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 16: This guy's a slam dunk for that fifth year option

1071
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 16: and then the sky's the limit. Right, These cornerback contracts

1072
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 16: have not exactly matched the wide receivers.

1073
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 4: But we've got this guy at about twenty three a year.

1074
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 4: I think he gets to twenty five pretty easily.

1075
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 16: That JC Horn contract out in Carolina is a really

1076
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 16: nice comp for what Witherspoon's been.

1077
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 4: Doing here in Seattle. Is kind of a one man

1078
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 4: wrecking crew.

1079
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 16: So I would expect Witherspoon and a couple other big

1080
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 16: cornerbacks this offseason to sort of reset things. Not so

1081
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 16: much up to your worst soft gardener gout at thirty million,

1082
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 16: but right in that fringe first tier of cornerback pay.

1083
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 16: So maybe not as explosive as the JSN numbers, but

1084
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 16: it's going to be two big contracts this offseason at minimum.

1085
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 3: Here Michael Janeti spad Track joining us, we'll stay at cornerback.

1086
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 3: Tarik Woolen not everybody's favorite corner here in Seattle, however,

1087
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: he's very, very talented. So what type of valuation do

1088
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 3: you see on Tarik Woolen?

1089
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 16: Yeah, you're right, I've gotten a lot of angst kind

1090
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 16: of putting out some valuations on this player in terms

1091
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 16: of what he might be worth and might be walking into.

1092
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 16: It's not a big number, the production is not really there,

1093
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Speaker 16: and there's been some inconsistencies in terms of playing time.

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Speaker 16: But you know, he's about a ten million dollar play

1095
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 16: in our system mathematically speaking. So there's value on the

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00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 16: open market if there's not a bidding war for a

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Speaker 16: player like this who does have a halfway decent resume

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Speaker 16: on a contending team. Obviously, so you know, I don't

1099
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Speaker 16: think it's a key for Seattle. There's a lot of

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Speaker 16: other free agents that I think they're going to look

1101
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 16: to retain, and probably Will's on the way out here,

1102
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Speaker 16: but probably somebody else's value in the open.

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Speaker 4: Market here on March eleventh.

1104
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Speaker 6: What about Cooper cup Man, he'll be thirty three in June.

1105
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 6: Had kind of a down year, but he's thirty two.

1106
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 6: You're supposed to have a down year for God's sakes.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think there's a chance he might call

1108
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 6: quits and retire still, but seventeen point five million dollar

1109
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 6: cap hit for next year.

1110
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Speaker 1: Can you see the Seahawks keeping him on the roster

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00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: next year at that number, at thirty three years old.

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00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a tough number.

1113
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 16: And you know it's it's almost fourteen million cash when

1114
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 16: you add in some incentives. So look this guy, this

1115
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 16: guy pound four pounds, showed what he's here for, which

1116
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 16: is January and February, right, And he was the guy

1117
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 16: down the stretch in a lot of instances for Sam Darnold.

1118
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 16: If that's going to be the case again, you work

1119
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 16: with them a little bit here, Maybe it's a pay cut,

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Speaker 16: maybe you move some things into incentives.

1121
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Speaker 4: Maybe it's just a simple cap conversion to.

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Speaker 16: Free up some space, but keep him on this contract

1123
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Speaker 16: if he wants to come back and return. I just think,

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Speaker 16: as of right now, that's a player you don't want

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00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 16: to mess with too much because he did show up

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Speaker 16: in the biggest moments.

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Speaker 3: So you talked about wide receiver maybe being overvalued, but

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Speaker 3: we are starting to head to the run game more

1129
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 3: and Seattle certainly won the Super Bowl with the run game.

1130
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Speaker 3: So let's talk hay nine. I mean, are we still

1131
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 3: low on the valuation of running backs out there and

1132
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 3: could Seattle potentially get a deal on Ken Walker?

1133
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 16: We're low when that running back doesn't do everything. And

1134
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 16: that is what Kenneth Walker is all about, is he's

1135
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 16: sort of a two trick pony right now and he

1136
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 16: needs three to kind of get to that big number.

1137
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 16: He's a ten million, eleven million dollar player that James

1138
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 16: could contract, which is a little bit undervalued in Buffalo.

1139
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 16: Maybe that Kyri Williams dealing with the Rams is about

1140
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 16: the ceiling we're sine for Walker on the open market here,

1141
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 16: which isn't too far away from this fourteen million dollar

1142
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 16: franchise tag.

1143
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 4: I don't think Seattle.

1144
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 16: Gets to that point, but I do think things changed

1145
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 16: with the Charbonney injury, so maybe it is we'll take

1146
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 16: a bit of an overpay. I'm this one year with

1147
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 16: Walker on the fourteen million dollar tag, assuming he'll sign it,

1148
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 16: and then we'll have the one two punch for one

1149
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 16: more season and see what happens after that.

1150
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Speaker 6: Mike, do you have any thought on who would be

1151
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 6: the most likely general manager owner around the NFL to

1152
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 6: just lose their mind and just go bananas and give

1153
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 6: Kenny Walker a three year I don't know, fifty million

1154
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 6: dollars deal and wig out and just totally overpay. I mean,

1155
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 6: obviously Jerry comes to mind for sure, but I'm not

1156
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 6: sure if they have the room down there to do

1157
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 6: something like that, because that would be my concern, right

1158
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 6: That was my concern when they lost Byron Maxwell back

1159
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 6: and the someone's gonna go nuts and want a corner

1160
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 6: from Pete Carroll's defense, and it turned out to be

1161
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 6: I believe Miami was the team that did that. So

1162
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Speaker 6: if there's a team out there with cap space that

1163
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 6: you think would be most likely to just completely reset

1164
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 6: the market for Kenny Walker, who do you think it

1165
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 6: would be?

1166
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, you took it.

1167
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 16: It's the Dallas cowbody who need a running back, by

1168
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 16: the way, and are known to do this. They love

1169
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Speaker 16: paying big contracts and then promoting that they paid that

1170
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Speaker 16: big contract. I'll give you one more team. I think

1171
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 16: the commanders are in and stuff like this. I do

1172
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 16: think that they had a bunch of swing and missus

1173
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 16: aggressively trying to build this contender around Jayden Daniels and

1174
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 16: they went older, and I don't think that's going to

1175
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 16: be the case this time around. I think they want

1176
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 16: to bring a couple of young guns in on big

1177
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Speaker 16: contracts and see if they can kind of reinvigorate that often.

1178
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 16: So I give you two NFC East teams as maybe

1179
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 16: some likely overpaid for Walker love it well.

1180
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Speaker 8: I got defensive lineman for you. I just looked at

1181
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 8: the numbers and kind of my eyes just bugged out.

1182
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 3: Leonard Williams goes from a fifteen million dollar capit to

1183
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 3: a thirty million dollar capit in twenty twenty six.

1184
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Speaker 8: Are we seeing a restructure in the next six months?

1185
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 4: I think an extension. This guy's done enough.

1186
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 16: He's not slowing down to the point of where you'd

1187
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 16: have to worry about bumping out two years guaranteed. Here,

1188
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Speaker 16: I think you just keep them on about the same

1189
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Speaker 16: AAV and you just kind of redo this thing and

1190
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Speaker 16: start over and hope.

1191
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Speaker 4: For the best. He's just been too valuable. I wouldn't

1192
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 4: mess with like VOD years and things like that. If

1193
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 4: I don't have to. I'd put a real contract in

1194
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Speaker 4: front of that thing.

1195
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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, Mike, before you go, why don't you just

1196
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 6: kind of give everybody kind of an overview on where

1197
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 6: the Hawks are with cap space, how that compares to

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Speaker 6: the rest of the league, and are they in a

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Speaker 6: favorable position unfavorable What kind of situation does John Schneider

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Speaker 6: have to work with.

1201
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Speaker 16: Yeah, pretty healthy top five right now, but they did

1202
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 16: just sign about fifteen of those practice squad players back,

1203
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,439
Speaker 16: so they're going to drop into about the top eight

1204
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 16: or nine when this thing's all said and done by

1205
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 16: the end of the weekend here. So you know, you're

1206
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 16: talking about sixty million to work with out of the

1207
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 16: gate without doing captain versions or any of that fun stuff.

1208
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 16: So there's room for free agents, there's room for extensions.

1209
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 16: I think you can frontload some things.

1210
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 4: You can sweeten the pot with Sam darn a little

1211
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,479
Speaker 4: bit here and aggressively add a couple of big names

1212
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Speaker 4: this offseason and try to keep this thing together. I'd

1213
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 4: say A plus health for an A plus team in

1214
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Speaker 4: the Super Bowl champs.

1215
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Speaker 8: And love it lovely. Almost just as important as the

1216
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 8: Seahawks health.

1217
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 3: Tell us about the Niners in the Rams.

1218
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Speaker 16: Uh, the Niners have work to do, Let's put it

1219
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 16: that way. They've got a brock Party situation.

1220
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 4: Uh. You know, this was supposed to be the year

1221
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 4: they that they made sure that brock Perty was the

1222
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 4: was the guy, and I think he is the guy.

1223
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 4: So now it's just about pieces and and they have

1224
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 4: quite a few. They got an Ayuk situation and a

1225
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 4: whole bunch.

1226
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 16: Of defensive injuries and we'll see what happens, maybe maybe

1227
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 16: a final you know, McCaffrey year, and then we'll see.

1228
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 16: So big time turnover there and the Rams are just

1229
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 16: all in until Matthew Stafford says otherwise. So the Rams

1230
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 16: are very very healthy, massive draft capital, massive cap space

1231
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 16: right now.

1232
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1233
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 16: I think they they tweaked the Stafford contract and uh,

1234
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 16: and that and Puka gets a JSN type deal like

1235
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 16: we're talking about here. But man, they've hit on some

1236
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 16: big time draft picks that have really helped them become

1237
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 16: pre eminently one of the best value teams in all football.

1238
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 6: Well, Mike, this great stuff, man, and again your your

1239
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 6: your website.

1240
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: I mean, heck, you should be charging us, honestly for this.

1241
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 6: You are like the Wikipedia of contracts for people in

1242
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 6: sports talk radio, and I feel like we should be

1243
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 6: giving you a couple of bucks, man to keep this

1244
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 6: thing going.

1245
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 1: But hey, before you go, if there's.

1246
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 6: One spot in the Seahawks fans, I think all agree

1247
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 6: they could use an upgrade, it's at right guard, right,

1248
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 6: and you mentioned it.

1249
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: They got about sixty million bucks to play with.

1250
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 6: They should be in on Whoever, the best biggest free

1251
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 6: agent is at right guard. Is there a guy on

1252
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 6: your list, on your guard free agent list that you

1253
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 6: like that you think would be a nice fit in

1254
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 6: Seattle if the Hawks want to.

1255
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Speaker 1: Go that way.

1256
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 16: Yeah, there's a couple out there. It's a pretty decent

1257
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 16: year for that, right. We've got Robert Jones coming off

1258
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 16: of this Dallas situation at Ingram, had a nice year

1259
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 16: in Houston, kind of a one year flash in the pan.

1260
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 16: And you know what happens with a couple players from

1261
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 16: the Jets. I'd be watching those guys, because the Deets

1262
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 16: probably are in what we know, they're in turmoil.

1263
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 4: We don't know where they are just yet.

1264
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 16: So John Simpson and maybe Vera Tucker kind of a

1265
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 16: swing tackle guard. Those are players you might have to

1266
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 16: overpay for, but you get a Super Bowl discount coming

1267
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 16: to Seattle for guys like that.

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Speaker 7: I love it.

1269
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 6: Mike, you're the man. Thanks for staying up late for us.

1270
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 6: Love what you guys do at spot track and we'll

1271
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 6: talk soon.

1272
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 4: Thanks Mike, My pleasure.

1273
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 7: Guess you bet.

1274
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 6: If there's a Seahawks fan out there that wants to

1275
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 6: know about all these contracts and stuff, go to spot

1276
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 6: track dot com, s p O t r ac dot com.

1277
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 6: The thing I like about their website, by the way,

1278
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 6: it's dipstick pro Absolutely it is being on prove easy.

1279
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 6: Anybody can go through this thing, man. It is like

1280
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 6: it's like written in crayon. It's so easy. So, look,

1281
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 6: you're talking about this is what happens, right I mean,

1282
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 6: this happened to the Seahawks in twenty thirteen and fourteen.

1283
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 6: It's gonna happen to the Seahawks right now. This these

1284
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 6: contracts that these guys are making. Really you're gonna feel

1285
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 6: it in a couple of years from now, I think,

1286
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 6: maybe not necessarily this next season. That's why I believe

1287
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 6: that there is a window here that we have to

1288
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 6: take advantage of.

1289
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Speaker 10: This is honestly a better chance to go back to

1290
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 10: back than we had in twenty fourteen the last year,

1291
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 10: because they had a Yes, we had Russell Wilson on

1292
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 10: the rookie deal, but there was a lot of contracts

1293
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,479
Speaker 10: on that team that they were juggling and this cap

1294
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 10: space is insane. And then hearing how yes, you're gonna

1295
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 10: have to give extensions, restructure Leo and that extension, do

1296
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 10: all these things, but they're gonna have the space. Honestly, guys,

1297
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Speaker 10: I'm looking at this, and I'm looking at the rest

1298
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 10: of the NFL, and I know that the Rams right

1299
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 10: tackle Rob haverstein Wright, he retired this week, so they're

1300
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 10: gonna be dealing with things as well. The Seahawks right

1301
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Speaker 10: now probably have quite easily the best chance to win

1302
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 10: the Super Bowl next year of all the teams in

1303
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 10: the NFL.

1304
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Speaker 6: I don't remember the Hawks after the thirteen season having

1305
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 6: this kind of cap space.

1306
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 3: No, no, right, no, And this is what happens when

1307
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 3: you draft Greys, Abel NICKI, Man Worry Byron Murphy, Devin Witherspoon,

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Speaker 3: Jackson Smith and Jagin Tris Cross.

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Speaker 8: I mean, that's what happens.

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Speaker 3: You have four to five years to play with with

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Speaker 3: guys making nothing, and that is why it is so

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Speaker 3: so important to a keep your draft picks Percy Harvin,

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Speaker 3: Jamal Adams, etc. Keep them and use and fire good bullets,

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Speaker 3: which is exactly what he's done the last few years,