1 00:00:00,060 --> 00:00:02,640 Joel Comm: John McAfee was without a doubt one of the most 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,120 Joel Comm: controversial guests we've ever had on this show. We got 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,940 Joel Comm: to interview him six times prior to his death and 4 00:00:08,940 --> 00:00:11,520 Joel Comm: we wish he was still around for a seventh go round. 5 00:00:11,789 --> 00:00:14,130 Joel Comm: But in lieu of that, the next best thing would 6 00:00:14,130 --> 00:00:16,829 Joel Comm: be to speak with someone who was with McAfee while 7 00:00:16,829 --> 00:00:19,950 Joel Comm: he was on the run from the authorities. Alex, Cody 8 00:00:19,950 --> 00:00:23,280 Joel Comm: Foster is that guy. You may recognize him from the 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,630 Joel Comm: blockbuster Netflix special Running with the devil the wild world 10 00:00:27,630 --> 00:00:31,690 Joel Comm: of john mcafee. Today he discusses his time with jon, 11 00:00:31,710 --> 00:00:34,950 Joel Comm: the insane situations that he found himself in and how 12 00:00:34,950 --> 00:00:38,190 Joel Comm: he's documented it all in a brand new book. This 13 00:00:38,190 --> 00:00:41,519 Joel Comm: episode has many van Halen references in it, so you'll 14 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:46,019 Joel Comm: want to keep count of them. On our episode number 654. 15 00:00:47,700 --> 00:00:49,320 Joel Comm: Of the Bad Crypto podcast. 16 00:00:49,570 --> 00:00:51,949 UU: Five for three. 17 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:58,920 Joel Comm: How are all of the Whose band? 18 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:26,130 Travis Wright: Are you ready to rock? Uh, yeah. Uh, maybe. Maybe not. 19 00:01:26,700 --> 00:01:33,750 Travis Wright: I was. I was noticing you, and I noticed that. Oh, I. One, two. And. Oh, yeah, 20 00:01:33,900 --> 00:01:34,380 Travis Wright: I noticed. 21 00:01:34,410 --> 00:01:35,910 Joel Comm: Well, if you're ready to rock, we can be the 22 00:01:35,910 --> 00:01:37,980 Joel Comm: metal metaverse metalheads. 23 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:44,190 Travis Wright: Oh, very nice. The metaverse metalheads. This one right here. 24 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:51,960 Travis Wright: I mean, seriously, it has about 5150 different Van Halen references. 25 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,620 Joel Comm: And because Runnin with the Devil and we. 26 00:01:55,620 --> 00:02:00,840 Travis Wright: Spun Army is there was 1984 and in 1984 we 27 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,370 Travis Wright: never really mentioned that album. 28 00:02:03,030 --> 00:02:06,330 Joel Comm: If you haven't seen the Netflix documentary Running with the 29 00:02:06,330 --> 00:02:08,730 Joel Comm: Devil in the Wild World of John McAfee, you got 30 00:02:08,730 --> 00:02:11,520 Joel Comm: to go see it. It's an amazing watch. Then you're 31 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,350 Joel Comm: going to want to get his book, the memoir of 32 00:02:13,350 --> 00:02:15,600 Joel Comm: The Man Who Hacked the World, which is all about 33 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:21,390 Joel Comm: John McAfee and basically being with him while the craziness 34 00:02:21,389 --> 00:02:25,710 Joel Comm: was taking place. Lots of insight from the author on 35 00:02:25,710 --> 00:02:28,290 Joel Comm: this particular show and a lot of fun to speak 36 00:02:28,290 --> 00:02:30,480 Joel Comm: with him as well. He's a good guy. Humble dude. 37 00:02:31,860 --> 00:02:35,730 Travis Wright: Very cool. And then if you haven't seen the documentary yet, 38 00:02:35,970 --> 00:02:39,570 Travis Wright: listen to this and then go listen, Go watch the documentary, 39 00:02:39,570 --> 00:02:42,600 Travis Wright: Run with the Devil. He's actually on the show talking 40 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,839 Travis Wright: about some interesting things, you know, and mentioning some stuff 41 00:02:46,350 --> 00:02:49,919 Travis Wright: that you maybe have never heard before, like while watching 42 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:54,029 Travis Wright: that documentary. They've talked about John McAfee, you know, maybe 43 00:02:54,030 --> 00:02:58,470 Travis Wright: even offing his very violent father. Like what? I never 44 00:02:58,470 --> 00:03:01,200 Travis Wright: heard that before. Like, there's some weird stuff going on. 45 00:03:01,530 --> 00:03:06,120 Travis Wright: And this this right here is this episode is one 46 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,230 Travis Wright: of those timeless ones. 47 00:03:07,470 --> 00:03:10,860 Joel Comm: Yeah. So see if you can count the Van Halen references. 48 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:20,040 Joel Comm: And let's get to our talk with Alex Cody Foster. Sir. Lord, 49 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,210 Joel Comm: have you seen the documentary on Netflix yet? Running with 50 00:03:24,210 --> 00:03:24,690 Joel Comm: the Devil. 51 00:03:25,110 --> 00:03:28,860 Travis Wright: Hmm. You know, yes, I have. And I love Van Halen. 52 00:03:29,310 --> 00:03:31,020 Travis Wright: So this is really exciting. We get to talk to 53 00:03:31,020 --> 00:03:34,050 Travis Wright: the ghostwriter who was writing for for for day to 54 00:03:34,050 --> 00:03:35,910 Travis Wright: Lee Roth. Is that correct? Something like that. Did I. 55 00:03:35,910 --> 00:03:38,640 Joel Comm: See this? No, no, no. It's. It's running with the devil. 56 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,980 Joel Comm: The wild world of John McAfee. 57 00:03:41,100 --> 00:03:44,490 Travis Wright: I do love that song. Maybe the very best intro 58 00:03:44,490 --> 00:03:47,070 Travis Wright: song on a debut album ever. 59 00:03:47,970 --> 00:03:52,410 Joel Comm: It is fantastic. You hear it and immediately recognize there's 60 00:03:52,410 --> 00:03:55,740 Joel Comm: Eddie pulling the raps like this is something totally new. 61 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:57,900 Travis Wright: But on that one, just real quick, you know, one 62 00:03:57,900 --> 00:03:59,700 Travis Wright: thing is that when they started out with the song 63 00:03:59,700 --> 00:04:03,810 Travis Wright: With Blood, when it starts out, they literally took in 64 00:04:03,810 --> 00:04:06,300 Travis Wright: car horn and then they honked it and then they 65 00:04:06,300 --> 00:04:09,570 Travis Wright: slowed it down to make that song. They made that sound, 66 00:04:09,570 --> 00:04:12,420 Travis Wright: which is funny, which is iconic sound. So but that 67 00:04:12,420 --> 00:04:13,980 Travis Wright: has nothing to do with any of this except for 68 00:04:13,980 --> 00:04:14,410 Travis Wright: the title. 69 00:04:14,430 --> 00:04:18,029 Joel Comm: There you go. Piece of Van Halen trivia today, and 70 00:04:18,270 --> 00:04:20,760 Joel Comm: maybe our guests will bring some Van Halen trivia. I 71 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,700 Joel Comm: don't know. His name is Alex Cody Foster. He is 72 00:04:23,910 --> 00:04:28,530 Joel Comm: the ghostwriter on the book that is just coming out today, 73 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,979 Joel Comm: which the documentary you may have seen on Netflix is 74 00:04:31,980 --> 00:04:34,830 Joel Comm: based on Running with the Devil, The Wild World of 75 00:04:34,830 --> 00:04:39,599 Joel Comm: John McAfee. Alex A.F., welcome to bed Crypto. 76 00:04:39,779 --> 00:04:40,710 Alex Cody Foster: Thanks for having me. Yes. 77 00:04:41,460 --> 00:04:42,930 Joel Comm: Do you have any Van Halen? 78 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,450 Alex Cody Foster: Actually, I do. This is all kind of full circle 79 00:04:45,450 --> 00:04:49,479 Alex Cody Foster: for me here. I Almost Ghost wrote a book for 80 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,640 Alex Cody Foster: a guy who was best friends with Eddie Van Halen. 81 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:53,770 Travis Wright: Huh? Yeah, I. 82 00:04:54,010 --> 00:04:56,500 Alex Cody Foster: I can't give his name, obviously, but I didn't take 83 00:04:56,500 --> 00:04:59,410 Alex Cody Foster: him on. He stole my email somewhere. It didn't happen. 84 00:04:59,410 --> 00:05:00,789 Alex Cody Foster: So I guess is a non-story. 85 00:05:01,350 --> 00:05:04,900 Travis Wright: Yeah, it's. It's such a great band. Such as? Aside 86 00:05:04,900 --> 00:05:09,520 Travis Wright: from that, such an interesting dude, John McAfee, such an 87 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,370 Travis Wright: interesting character. Like when you go back and and I 88 00:05:12,370 --> 00:05:14,830 Travis Wright: believe the documentary started somewhere with some of that footage 89 00:05:14,830 --> 00:05:18,279 Travis Wright: from what 2012 is that that what starts kicking off 90 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,500 Travis Wright: and then you go on for a little while and 91 00:05:20,500 --> 00:05:22,600 Travis Wright: then you're and then there's like a five year delay 92 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,690 Travis Wright: and then you're going back into the story back in 2019. 93 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,610 Travis Wright: What a great time to come back in the So 94 00:05:27,610 --> 00:05:30,160 Travis Wright: what was your initial thoughts when you're like, hey, John 95 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,570 Travis Wright: McAfee wants you to write a book with them? Like 96 00:05:32,589 --> 00:05:33,430 Travis Wright: how did that go down? 97 00:05:33,670 --> 00:05:36,070 Joel Comm: And so, Travis, we're just going to jump right in 98 00:05:36,550 --> 00:05:38,620 Joel Comm: like I think as well. We may as well jump. 99 00:05:39,170 --> 00:05:41,470 Travis Wright: I might as well just go ahead. JOHNSON Yeah, I. 100 00:05:41,470 --> 00:05:43,900 Joel Comm: Think I think we did try to insert as many 101 00:05:43,900 --> 00:05:45,760 Joel Comm: Van Halen song titles. 102 00:05:45,910 --> 00:05:47,050 Travis Wright: Into this episode. 103 00:05:47,770 --> 00:05:50,680 Joel Comm: Of course, the conversation as possible. So, yeah, Alex, go 104 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:51,850 Joel Comm: ahead and talk about that. 105 00:05:51,850 --> 00:05:55,960 Alex Cody Foster: Jump in some jump in. So John didn't actually want 106 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,650 Alex Cody Foster: to hire me initially. I spoke with Jimmy Watson, his 107 00:05:59,650 --> 00:06:04,660 Alex Cody Foster: executive advisor at the time, because yeah, Jimmy and he, 108 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,510 Alex Cody Foster: you know, I forget how we met, but we got 109 00:06:07,510 --> 00:06:09,909 Alex Cody Foster: linked up. I sent him an email and I told 110 00:06:09,910 --> 00:06:11,950 Alex Cody Foster: him that I was a ghostwriter and I was in 111 00:06:11,950 --> 00:06:13,870 Alex Cody Foster: the crypto industry and I've worked with some of the 112 00:06:13,870 --> 00:06:16,450 Alex Cody Foster: founders in crypto and I said I would love to 113 00:06:16,450 --> 00:06:19,390 Alex Cody Foster: write John story. In fact, I'd wanted to write a 114 00:06:19,390 --> 00:06:22,570 Alex Cody Foster: story ever since I was 18 and 19 years old, 115 00:06:22,570 --> 00:06:25,179 Alex Cody Foster: living on the streets of Los Angeles. And I that 116 00:06:25,210 --> 00:06:28,060 Alex Cody Foster: was in 2012, and that's when John went on the 117 00:06:28,060 --> 00:06:30,850 Alex Cody Foster: run in Belize. And I saw that story when I 118 00:06:30,850 --> 00:06:33,580 Alex Cody Foster: was living on the streets. There was a wired article 119 00:06:33,580 --> 00:06:37,029 Alex Cody Foster: by Joshua Josh Davis, and I said, Fuck, I love 120 00:06:37,029 --> 00:06:39,460 Alex Cody Foster: to write that guy's book someday. This is before I 121 00:06:39,460 --> 00:06:42,430 Alex Cody Foster: was a writer. So fast forward, you know, I was 122 00:06:42,430 --> 00:06:45,670 Alex Cody Foster: 25 and I wrote to Jimmy and he said, You know, 123 00:06:45,670 --> 00:06:48,130 Alex Cody Foster: you sound like the perfect guy to do this. But 124 00:06:48,130 --> 00:06:50,680 Alex Cody Foster: every time I bring it up, the boss boss says, 125 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,590 Alex Cody Foster: Fuck that, Jimmy. I will never write another book. I 126 00:06:53,589 --> 00:06:56,740 Alex Cody Foster: will never speak to a writer because I hate them. 127 00:06:56,770 --> 00:06:59,080 Alex Cody Foster: And he said, If you keep bringing this shit up, 128 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,440 Alex Cody Foster: I'm going to fire you. And Jimmy was like, Yeah, yeah. 129 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:03,890 Alex Cody Foster: He said, Man, I don't know Alex. I don't know 130 00:07:03,890 --> 00:07:06,130 Alex Cody Foster: if he's being serious or what, but I don't think 131 00:07:06,130 --> 00:07:07,510 Alex Cody Foster: I can bring this up. But you know, I'm going 132 00:07:07,510 --> 00:07:10,360 Alex Cody Foster: to do it strategic strategically, all right? And I said, Fine, 133 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,790 Alex Cody Foster: that's great. A few months later, I got a call 134 00:07:12,790 --> 00:07:15,670 Alex Cody Foster: in the morning, 530 in the morning, I guess John 135 00:07:15,670 --> 00:07:18,070 Alex Cody Foster: had seen a video of when I was homeless on 136 00:07:18,070 --> 00:07:20,470 Alex Cody Foster: the streets of L.A. and he knew I'd seen some shit. 137 00:07:20,890 --> 00:07:23,290 Alex Cody Foster: And that's what attracted it to me. And so I 138 00:07:23,290 --> 00:07:25,150 Alex Cody Foster: got a call 530 in the morning, and I was 139 00:07:25,630 --> 00:07:28,750 Alex Cody Foster: profiled in the Netflix documentary. But what's not in that 140 00:07:28,750 --> 00:07:33,430 Alex Cody Foster: film is the deciding factor was he said, All right, son, 141 00:07:33,610 --> 00:07:38,110 Alex Cody Foster: do you drink? Does it? Yeah. I mean, water, coffee 142 00:07:38,860 --> 00:07:41,530 Alex Cody Foster: is I don't like milk. I mean, we're the only 143 00:07:41,830 --> 00:07:45,340 Alex Cody Foster: animal that drinks milk from another species, so that's why. 144 00:07:45,340 --> 00:07:46,930 Travis Wright: I love to eat. Yeah. 145 00:07:46,930 --> 00:07:50,620 Alex Cody Foster: Yeah, I like I like food too. And he's like, No, no, no, no, no, no, no. 146 00:07:50,620 --> 00:07:53,470 Alex Cody Foster: Do you drink booze, sir? Do you drink? But is 147 00:07:53,500 --> 00:07:55,840 Alex Cody Foster: it Sure? And he said, What do you drink? I 148 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,020 Alex Cody Foster: was like, red wine, You know, I like montepulciano. I 149 00:07:59,020 --> 00:08:02,830 Alex Cody Foster: like scotch, I like bourbon. This is it. He shut 150 00:08:02,830 --> 00:08:04,119 Alex Cody Foster: me up and he said, All right, I'll see you. 151 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,670 Alex Cody Foster: I'll see you Tuesday. That was like a day later 152 00:08:06,850 --> 00:08:09,310 Alex Cody Foster: that I was supposed to arrive. And John did this 153 00:08:09,310 --> 00:08:11,830 Alex Cody Foster: all the time with people. It was all or nothing. 154 00:08:12,190 --> 00:08:15,400 Alex Cody Foster: You know, you either arrive in 24 hours, which meant 155 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,110 Alex Cody Foster: that I had to pretty much get on a plane 156 00:08:17,140 --> 00:08:20,020 Alex Cody Foster: that night because of where he was located in the 157 00:08:20,020 --> 00:08:23,440 Alex Cody Foster: US or don't arrive at all. And so that's how 158 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:24,490 Alex Cody Foster: it got kicked off. 159 00:08:25,390 --> 00:08:27,190 Travis Wright: So you like if I show up, then you really 160 00:08:27,190 --> 00:08:29,410 Travis Wright: got me. I'm going to be here. I'm going to 161 00:08:29,410 --> 00:08:30,179 Travis Wright: be your ghostwriter. 162 00:08:30,610 --> 00:08:32,770 Alex Cody Foster: It felt that way. But actually what happened was I 163 00:08:32,770 --> 00:08:34,720 Alex Cody Foster: showed up and I was put under this sort of 164 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,709 Alex Cody Foster: rigorous social experiment, which, if I failed, was going to 165 00:08:38,710 --> 00:08:41,200 Alex Cody Foster: can my ass immediately. So I didn't really have the 166 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:42,520 Alex Cody Foster: job until I passed the test. 167 00:08:42,790 --> 00:08:45,040 Travis Wright: And what was this? When did you when did you 168 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,170 Travis Wright: join with them originally? Back in 2000, 12, or was 169 00:08:47,170 --> 00:08:49,090 Travis Wright: it 2020 18? 170 00:08:49,090 --> 00:08:51,790 Alex Cody Foster: So he had done his whole on the run thing. 171 00:08:51,790 --> 00:08:55,280 Alex Cody Foster: In 2012. He came back to America and then he 172 00:08:55,390 --> 00:08:57,370 Alex Cody Foster: pretty much went on the run for a couple of years. 173 00:08:57,370 --> 00:09:00,910 Alex Cody Foster: He lived in Oregon, he lived in Tennessee. He was 174 00:09:00,910 --> 00:09:01,959 Alex Cody Foster: in Tennessee when I met him. 175 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,860 Joel Comm: So how long did it take for him to warm 176 00:09:07,860 --> 00:09:11,310 Joel Comm: up to you? You know, for him to feel comfortable, like, okay, 177 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,560 Joel Comm: I can hang with this guy, I can party with 178 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,780 Joel Comm: this dude. I'm going to surround myself with some beautiful 179 00:09:15,780 --> 00:09:19,950 Joel Comm: girls and with Alex Cody Foster song reference. 180 00:09:21,090 --> 00:09:23,430 Alex Cody Foster: I think that was the second trip that I took 181 00:09:23,429 --> 00:09:25,560 Alex Cody Foster: with him when we actually went on the run, allegedly 182 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,620 Alex Cody Foster: from the Sinaloa cartel. We're after him because he felt there. 183 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,610 Alex Cody Foster: He bugged them and hacked them back in 2012. That's 184 00:09:32,610 --> 00:09:34,470 Alex Cody Foster: in the book. It's not really in the film, but 185 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,280 Alex Cody Foster: he he saw that I wasn't afraid. You know, I 186 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,800 Alex Cody Foster: had lost my mind back in 2012 when I was 187 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,780 Alex Cody Foster: living on the streets. I got a back a couple 188 00:09:42,780 --> 00:09:44,880 Alex Cody Foster: of years later, and when I got back, I was 189 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,790 Alex Cody Foster: a totally different person and I became a writer. And 190 00:09:47,790 --> 00:09:51,089 Alex Cody Foster: ever since then, for some weird reason, I bet in 191 00:09:51,090 --> 00:09:53,609 Alex Cody Foster: a pathological sense, a therapist would have a field day 192 00:09:53,610 --> 00:09:57,240 Alex Cody Foster: with me. But I don't really feel fear. You know 193 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,760 Alex Cody Foster: what I mean? I don't feel excitement either. Like everybody's 194 00:10:00,210 --> 00:10:02,730 Alex Cody Foster: hitting me up today, like, Oh my God, your first book, 195 00:10:02,730 --> 00:10:04,740 Alex Cody Foster: Under Your Name came out. You know, I've got a 196 00:10:04,740 --> 00:10:07,170 Alex Cody Foster: bunch of published books, not under my name, but the 197 00:10:07,170 --> 00:10:09,480 Alex Cody Foster: first one with my name. And it just so happened 198 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,679 Alex Cody Foster: to be about my life and about my time with John. 199 00:10:12,059 --> 00:10:14,730 Alex Cody Foster: But I don't feel excitement. I feel grateful. And I 200 00:10:14,730 --> 00:10:19,980 Alex Cody Foster: think that weird pathology that I have and the just 201 00:10:19,980 --> 00:10:21,900 Alex Cody Foster: the fact that I was always a black sheep, that 202 00:10:21,900 --> 00:10:24,780 Alex Cody Foster: I was sort of misunderstood and I lost my mind 203 00:10:24,780 --> 00:10:26,730 Alex Cody Foster: like he did he he said he lost it for 204 00:10:26,730 --> 00:10:30,030 Alex Cody Foster: a lot longer than I did it. When he realized 205 00:10:30,030 --> 00:10:32,939 Alex Cody Foster: that was the thing with me, we were in that 206 00:10:33,059 --> 00:10:37,920 Alex Cody Foster: four car motorcade speeding across America on the run. That's 207 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,230 Alex Cody Foster: when he really starts spilling his secrets. And that's when 208 00:10:40,230 --> 00:10:42,660 Alex Cody Foster: he didn't see me as an equal. But he saw 209 00:10:42,660 --> 00:10:43,829 Alex Cody Foster: me the first time. 210 00:10:45,380 --> 00:10:47,450 Travis Wright: I want to I want to talk about you know, 211 00:10:47,450 --> 00:10:49,240 Travis Wright: you mentioned that you were homeless there for a while, 212 00:10:49,250 --> 00:10:51,200 Travis Wright: living out on the summer streets. And I want to 213 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,500 Travis Wright: ask about that. Like, how did that sort of prepare 214 00:10:54,500 --> 00:10:57,340 Travis Wright: you to become a ghost and like in your thinking, 215 00:10:57,740 --> 00:10:59,660 Travis Wright: so you got your life together and you said that 216 00:10:59,660 --> 00:11:02,059 Travis Wright: was a crazy time. Here I am. I'm going to 217 00:11:02,059 --> 00:11:04,700 Travis Wright: start I'm going to start writing some books about other 218 00:11:04,700 --> 00:11:07,160 Travis Wright: people and ghostwriting them. How did that even transcribe? 219 00:11:07,700 --> 00:11:10,130 Alex Cody Foster: That's a great question, man. I mean, to be honest, 220 00:11:10,130 --> 00:11:13,190 Alex Cody Foster: I guess I've been ghostwriting pretty much my whole life 221 00:11:13,190 --> 00:11:17,070 Alex Cody Foster: is back in. Seventh grade that I started writing book 222 00:11:17,070 --> 00:11:19,590 Alex Cody Foster: reports for my brother, who was in high school. And 223 00:11:19,590 --> 00:11:22,320 Alex Cody Foster: I did that until he left high school. And he 224 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,140 Alex Cody Foster: didn't graduate, but he just he just left. And I 225 00:11:25,140 --> 00:11:27,059 Alex Cody Foster: did that the whole time for him. And I read 226 00:11:27,059 --> 00:11:29,460 Alex Cody Foster: all of his high school books. So by the time 227 00:11:29,460 --> 00:11:31,290 Alex Cody Foster: I got to high school, I'd already read all the 228 00:11:31,290 --> 00:11:34,200 Alex Cody Foster: material and I started doing it for college kids when 229 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,559 Alex Cody Foster: I was in high school for money and for beer. 230 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,960 Alex Cody Foster: And like we because I used to smoke weed back 231 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,720 Alex Cody Foster: in the day. But am I allowed to talk about drugs? 232 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,660 Travis Wright: You know, I used to smoke drugs and then I 233 00:11:45,660 --> 00:11:49,109 Travis Wright: still do. So. I guess so. Cool. All right. 234 00:11:49,950 --> 00:11:53,010 Joel Comm: Are you allowed to talk about drugs? But the first 235 00:11:53,010 --> 00:11:58,290 Joel Comm: time we interviewed John in 2017 for episode number 100 236 00:11:58,290 --> 00:12:01,170 Joel Comm: Bad code that I for slash 100 if anybody wants 237 00:12:01,170 --> 00:12:03,059 Joel Comm: to listen to it. We were on video with him 238 00:12:03,059 --> 00:12:06,480 Joel Comm: and he was wrapping his arm about to shoot up. 239 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:07,500 Alex Cody Foster: Oh, shit. 240 00:12:07,620 --> 00:12:10,170 Joel Comm: And on screen we're like watching going, Oh. 241 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,600 Travis Wright: What in the world is this? It was it was 242 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,880 Travis Wright: more like, oh, because he literally was putting a tourniquet 243 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,219 Travis Wright: on his arm and he's like, squeezing it. He's getting it. 244 00:12:17,250 --> 00:12:19,590 Travis Wright: It's like pumping it out. Get ready to. And I 245 00:12:19,590 --> 00:12:22,140 Travis Wright: think he realizes like, well, I'm on video and then 246 00:12:22,140 --> 00:12:24,120 Travis Wright: I don't he didn't actually do it, but he did 247 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,310 Travis Wright: hit the turning, you know and I don't know if 248 00:12:26,309 --> 00:12:29,910 Travis Wright: that was just shock value. Right. Or we were going 249 00:12:29,910 --> 00:12:31,530 Travis Wright: to see him dancing in the streets, though. It was 250 00:12:31,530 --> 00:12:32,880 Travis Wright: going to be a wild show either way. 251 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,140 Alex Cody Foster: It was going to be a lot of it, to 252 00:12:34,140 --> 00:12:37,980 Alex Cody Foster: be honest with John, that he did that. That you 253 00:12:37,980 --> 00:12:40,849 Alex Cody Foster: said that was episode 100. Yeah. What year was this? 254 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:46,199 Joel Comm: 2017, I think, or early 18. So it was he 255 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:51,150 Joel Comm: did 100, 200, 200 in what was like 86. 256 00:12:51,510 --> 00:12:54,679 Travis Wright: Yeah. We thought he was going to be arrested or Epstein's. 257 00:12:55,260 --> 00:12:56,969 Joel Comm: Yeah. Yeah. So we're like, oh, we're not going to 258 00:12:56,970 --> 00:13:00,479 Joel Comm: wait till 300. We're going to have a virtual blockchain week. 259 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,449 Joel Comm: And there was one other and we've had more recently, 260 00:13:03,450 --> 00:13:05,309 Joel Comm: we've had Janis on the show. 261 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,520 Alex Cody Foster: If it was 2018, it's kind of funny. I was 262 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,740 Alex Cody Foster: the one that got him on that show with you. 263 00:13:10,740 --> 00:13:12,360 Alex Cody Foster: Travis I could show up and I set it up 264 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,579 Alex Cody Foster: via email. It's kind of small world. 265 00:13:14,940 --> 00:13:16,800 Travis Wright: But it is a small world, so we're really grateful. 266 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,960 Travis Wright: Here we are full circle like crazy right here. 267 00:13:19,330 --> 00:13:21,600 Joel Comm: So I'm going to pull that up right here. And 268 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,630 Joel Comm: you can see that bad code that I enforce. I 269 00:13:24,630 --> 00:13:28,260 Joel Comm: saw 100 is March 20th, 2018. So we probably interviewed 270 00:13:28,260 --> 00:13:33,410 Joel Comm: him just a few days before for this episode. And 271 00:13:33,420 --> 00:13:36,180 Joel Comm: it was it was there's yeah, there's a picture. It 272 00:13:36,179 --> 00:13:36,569 Joel Comm: was he. 273 00:13:36,570 --> 00:13:38,800 Travis Wright: Was totally unchained. There was like. 274 00:13:39,450 --> 00:13:39,719 Alex Cody Foster: He was. 275 00:13:40,020 --> 00:13:43,860 Travis Wright: Doing what he was doing. He was going to do heroin, 276 00:13:44,350 --> 00:13:47,350 Travis Wright: like in the interview to this day. And then Joe's like, 277 00:13:47,370 --> 00:13:49,260 Travis Wright: and we got it. And I was like, No, dude, 278 00:13:49,260 --> 00:13:52,079 Travis Wright: that's going to be the thing that you see. John 279 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,490 Travis Wright: now he's doing what I think we did edit it. 280 00:13:55,540 --> 00:13:57,210 Travis Wright: I just because it was like, this is not big 281 00:13:57,210 --> 00:13:59,280 Travis Wright: or whatever, but I was like, That was crazy. 282 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,300 Alex Cody Foster: That's pure John right there. But to answer your question, sorry, 283 00:14:03,300 --> 00:14:06,120 Alex Cody Foster: I don't I don't think I did to round it out. I, 284 00:14:06,750 --> 00:14:10,140 Alex Cody Foster: you know, after it was writing, you know, grammar school 285 00:14:10,140 --> 00:14:13,730 Alex Cody Foster: and then in high school and I, I hitchhiked across America, 286 00:14:13,770 --> 00:14:15,990 Alex Cody Foster: became homeless on the streets of L.A., ran out of money, 287 00:14:16,170 --> 00:14:18,120 Alex Cody Foster: came from a poor family, no one to bail me out. 288 00:14:18,330 --> 00:14:20,310 Alex Cody Foster: So I just lived on the streets and I decided 289 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,620 Alex Cody Foster: I want to tell the story of all these people 290 00:14:22,950 --> 00:14:26,640 Alex Cody Foster: who lived on the streets. Or 51,340 homeless people. I 291 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:27,650 Alex Cody Foster: read I. 292 00:14:27,750 --> 00:14:30,480 Travis Wright: Read it was 5150 5150 was what I thought was 293 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:30,750 Travis Wright: the number. 294 00:14:31,020 --> 00:14:31,800 Alex Cody Foster: Who's your source. 295 00:14:32,970 --> 00:14:35,640 Travis Wright: Of everyone's song for him? Song lists. 296 00:14:36,420 --> 00:14:39,890 Alex Cody Foster: That's never mind, that's that's reputable. We'll stick with that one. 297 00:14:41,010 --> 00:14:44,430 Travis Wright: You shit. So I wanted to I want to talk 298 00:14:44,430 --> 00:14:47,400 Travis Wright: about his mental health. Right. Because like you can see here, 299 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,330 Travis Wright: he is doing copious amounts of drugs, doing a ridiculous 300 00:14:51,330 --> 00:14:55,470 Travis Wright: amount of, you know, alcohol. And then all of his 301 00:14:55,470 --> 00:14:57,570 Travis Wright: girls around is like, I ain't talking about LA, but 302 00:14:57,570 --> 00:15:00,690 Travis Wright: let's get together and let's have a nice, crazy time. 303 00:15:00,810 --> 00:15:04,050 Travis Wright: Like what? What was the craziest thing that you saw 304 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,040 Travis Wright: that you can talk about? 305 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,880 Alex Cody Foster: Shit, that's part of a top ten list. Really? Let 306 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,370 Alex Cody Foster: me think. Can I just go through the list? 307 00:15:11,580 --> 00:15:12,420 Travis Wright: Go through the list? 308 00:15:12,420 --> 00:15:14,730 Joel Comm: We love that he's saying, You really got me with 309 00:15:14,730 --> 00:15:15,990 Joel Comm: that question there, Trev. 310 00:15:16,170 --> 00:15:18,390 Travis Wright: That's what he did say. Change that. You change the 311 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,550 Travis Wright: the visual so he's in the middle and we can 312 00:15:20,550 --> 00:15:22,860 Travis Wright: turn this one into a fancy little social. Oh, you 313 00:15:22,860 --> 00:15:24,810 Travis Wright: do that So fancy. He's got a top ten. 314 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,450 Alex Cody Foster: Sandwich made here. Top ten. Well, I might not see yet. 315 00:15:29,580 --> 00:15:32,850 Travis Wright: You saw from John McAfee in the two plus three 316 00:15:32,850 --> 00:15:34,050 Travis Wright: years that you were working with that. 317 00:15:34,530 --> 00:15:37,950 Alex Cody Foster: Okay. One, probably when we are on the run from 318 00:15:37,950 --> 00:15:40,890 Alex Cody Foster: the Sinaloa cartel, I didn't believe him. He just had 319 00:15:41,730 --> 00:15:46,320 Alex Cody Foster: he interrogated a girl and made her cry in McDonald's 320 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:47,040 Alex Cody Foster: parking lot. 321 00:15:47,070 --> 00:15:48,090 Joel Comm: What's her name? Jamie. 322 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:52,200 Alex Cody Foster: Actually, her name's Ryan. Her name was Lizzie Borden, which 323 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,729 Alex Cody Foster: didn't know her situation. John had a field day with that. 324 00:15:56,730 --> 00:15:58,750 Alex Cody Foster: He was like, Oh, so you're the famous axe murderer, huh? 325 00:15:58,860 --> 00:16:01,710 Alex Cody Foster: Lizzie Borden? Is that your If that's even your real name? 326 00:16:01,950 --> 00:16:02,510 Alex Cody Foster: And she laughed. 327 00:16:02,550 --> 00:16:03,600 Joel Comm: Yeah, I'm the one. 328 00:16:03,660 --> 00:16:05,790 Alex Cody Foster: It was. It was actually really sad, though. I mean, 329 00:16:05,790 --> 00:16:07,920 Alex Cody Foster: he made the poor girl cry because he he and 330 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,490 Alex Cody Foster: the security guys were grilling her, thinking she was a spy. 331 00:16:11,850 --> 00:16:14,950 Travis Wright: Oh, here's the eruption. There you go, John. Going off 332 00:16:14,980 --> 00:16:16,030 Travis Wright: on the ground, making her cry. 333 00:16:16,750 --> 00:16:22,210 Alex Cody Foster: So there's that. Number two, allegedly, I spoke to the 334 00:16:22,210 --> 00:16:26,260 Alex Cody Foster: head of the Sinaloa cartel in central Mexico, own cartel. 335 00:16:26,260 --> 00:16:28,420 Travis Wright: What is the Sinaloa cartel? For those who don't know. 336 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:33,370 Alex Cody Foster: They're the most feared, most dangerous cartel drug cartel in 337 00:16:33,370 --> 00:16:36,940 Alex Cody Foster: the world. And you know the head of it. I 338 00:16:36,940 --> 00:16:39,820 Alex Cody Foster: don't know if he's still ahead. Joaquin El Chapo Guzman. 339 00:16:40,420 --> 00:16:41,320 Travis Wright: El Chapo? 340 00:16:41,530 --> 00:16:42,600 Alex Cody Foster: Yeah. El Chapo doesn't. 341 00:16:42,610 --> 00:16:44,560 Travis Wright: Get him on this show sometime and chat with him 342 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,900 Travis Wright: about the crypto space and be like, hey, I'm Chapo. 343 00:16:46,900 --> 00:16:48,010 Travis Wright: I got some Chapo stick. 344 00:16:50,260 --> 00:16:51,850 Alex Cody Foster: Well, like I said in the film, if there's one 345 00:16:51,850 --> 00:16:53,680 Alex Cody Foster: thing I know, you don't fuck with the cartel. And 346 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,200 Alex Cody Foster: that's why I played it pretty safe in this book 347 00:16:56,740 --> 00:16:58,900 Alex Cody Foster: without naming names. But yeah, that was a weird time 348 00:16:59,290 --> 00:17:03,000 Alex Cody Foster: talking to the head of the cartel in Central America. 349 00:17:03,070 --> 00:17:09,580 Alex Cody Foster: The guy was supposedly connected to El Chapo himself because 350 00:17:09,580 --> 00:17:11,730 Alex Cody Foster: I didn't believe John. So John got him on the phone. 351 00:17:11,740 --> 00:17:13,990 Alex Cody Foster: He said, Tell him your name. And he told me 352 00:17:13,990 --> 00:17:15,580 Alex Cody Foster: his name. And I looked him up. I had the 353 00:17:15,580 --> 00:17:18,250 Alex Cody Foster: phone in front of me. And yeah, all these news articles, 354 00:17:18,250 --> 00:17:21,580 Alex Cody Foster: there's like a kingpin indictment against them and crazy shit. 355 00:17:22,090 --> 00:17:24,070 Travis Wright: Like El Chapo. He got El Chapo. 356 00:17:24,070 --> 00:17:25,629 Alex Cody Foster: On the phone. No, the other guy. 357 00:17:26,020 --> 00:17:29,050 Travis Wright: There's another guy. Hold on. I'm going to text El 358 00:17:29,050 --> 00:17:31,060 Travis Wright: Chapo real quick. What the. 359 00:17:31,060 --> 00:17:33,040 Alex Cody Foster: Hell? He was in prison. I mean, he probably had 360 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,050 Alex Cody Foster: access to a cell phone as you can burrow under 361 00:17:35,050 --> 00:17:35,650 Alex Cody Foster: the prison. 362 00:17:36,369 --> 00:17:38,530 Joel Comm: Okay. Number three right now. 363 00:17:38,740 --> 00:17:42,939 Alex Cody Foster: Number three was being kidnapped in Barcelona. That's not in 364 00:17:42,940 --> 00:17:47,400 Alex Cody Foster: the movie. Against my will. We were kidnapped by these two, 365 00:17:47,410 --> 00:17:50,109 Alex Cody Foster: I think was the Eastern European mob or something. It 366 00:17:50,109 --> 00:17:52,990 Alex Cody Foster: was very sketchy situation. It's sort of a long story. 367 00:17:52,990 --> 00:17:55,720 Alex Cody Foster: But to sum it up, I was in this motorcade, 368 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,960 Alex Cody Foster: bunch of guys with guns driving to an undisclosed location, 369 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,050 Alex Cody Foster: supposedly a villa in Barcelona. But they took me an 370 00:18:02,050 --> 00:18:04,300 Alex Cody Foster: hour outside of Barcelona and I kept saying. 371 00:18:04,570 --> 00:18:06,930 Joel Comm: Put a bag over your head, burlap bag. 372 00:18:06,940 --> 00:18:09,670 Alex Cody Foster: They did it. I expected them to, but they didn't. 373 00:18:10,060 --> 00:18:12,369 Joel Comm: They told me, Hey, guys, where's the. 374 00:18:12,369 --> 00:18:12,790 Travis Wright: Bag. 375 00:18:13,430 --> 00:18:14,470 Joel Comm: Going to bag me? 376 00:18:14,710 --> 00:18:14,919 Travis Wright: Where are. 377 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:15,700 Alex Cody Foster: The refreshments? 378 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:17,889 Travis Wright: We're going to have a we're going to have a 379 00:18:17,890 --> 00:18:19,930 Travis Wright: Sunday afternoon in the park. And all of a sudden 380 00:18:19,930 --> 00:18:23,770 Travis Wright: we're getting we're getting arrested. We're getting accosted by the 381 00:18:24,250 --> 00:18:27,250 Travis Wright: Eastern European mob. I mean, you don't want them after you. 382 00:18:27,340 --> 00:18:30,640 Travis Wright: You don't want El Chapo after you. He's pissing off everybody. 383 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,460 Travis Wright: You don't want the government after you. John McAfee pissed 384 00:18:33,460 --> 00:18:34,330 Travis Wright: off everyone. 385 00:18:34,540 --> 00:18:37,000 Alex Cody Foster: He did it. He had a lot of friends, too, though. 386 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,970 Alex Cody Foster: We can't forget that in a lot of friends. 387 00:18:40,570 --> 00:18:46,330 Joel Comm: He was very loved for his his honesty. Right. You know, 388 00:18:46,570 --> 00:18:50,320 Joel Comm: being authentic, who he was. And in standing up for 389 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:55,690 Joel Comm: crypto and decentralization and against the the the systems. I mean, 390 00:18:55,690 --> 00:18:58,720 Joel Comm: he was a rebel's rebel. I mean, the dude, the 391 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,600 Joel Comm: dude spit, blood and fire every time he talked. And 392 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,170 Joel Comm: it was just like he so that drew a lot 393 00:19:05,170 --> 00:19:06,040 Joel Comm: of people to him. 394 00:19:06,490 --> 00:19:08,260 Alex Cody Foster: And that's why I was drawn to him initially. But 395 00:19:08,260 --> 00:19:10,660 Alex Cody Foster: when I uncovered some of the darker elements of John's 396 00:19:10,660 --> 00:19:13,149 Alex Cody Foster: psyche and history, it just put me off. You know, 397 00:19:13,150 --> 00:19:16,090 Alex Cody Foster: there's certain things I'm a I'm an open minded guy. 398 00:19:16,090 --> 00:19:21,850 Alex Cody Foster: I've worked with, I've worked with. I don't know if 399 00:19:21,850 --> 00:19:23,740 Alex Cody Foster: I'm allowed to say actually, I'm allowed to say my 400 00:19:23,740 --> 00:19:25,419 Alex Cody Foster: my name is going to be on the cover. You know, 401 00:19:25,420 --> 00:19:29,200 Alex Cody Foster: I've worked with drug kingpins before. I currently am working 402 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,790 Alex Cody Foster: with one. I've worked with liars, thieves, murderers. I've worked 403 00:19:33,790 --> 00:19:38,170 Alex Cody Foster: with Ross Ulbricht, who created Silk Road. I've worked with 404 00:19:38,619 --> 00:19:41,560 Alex Cody Foster: really wonderful, good people, too. They're not all bad, but 405 00:19:41,770 --> 00:19:43,780 Alex Cody Foster: I like to reserve judgment. And that's one thing that 406 00:19:43,780 --> 00:19:46,209 Alex Cody Foster: has aided me as a ghostwriters. When I lost my mind, 407 00:19:46,210 --> 00:19:48,250 Alex Cody Foster: it kind of shattered my ego. And to be a 408 00:19:48,250 --> 00:19:51,130 Alex Cody Foster: great ghostwriter, you get to set your own bullshit aside. 409 00:19:51,150 --> 00:19:54,130 Alex Cody Foster: Egocentric ego. Leave it at the door so you can 410 00:19:54,130 --> 00:19:56,080 Alex Cody Foster: get in the shoes of this person and tell their 411 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,260 Alex Cody Foster: story through their eyes. And I had to do that. 412 00:19:59,260 --> 00:20:01,619 Alex Cody Foster: And I did that very effectively with charm. There are 413 00:20:01,630 --> 00:20:07,260 Alex Cody Foster: few lines you don't cross with me. What are those? Clothing? 414 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:08,900 Joel Comm: We don't have lights. 415 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,590 Alex Cody Foster: One of them is. Do not. 416 00:20:11,859 --> 00:20:12,760 Joel Comm: Tell me. I'll wait. 417 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:20,030 Alex Cody Foster: Do not murder innocent people and don't rape people. And 418 00:20:20,570 --> 00:20:23,750 Alex Cody Foster: throughout my time with John, I had reason to believe 419 00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:25,970 Alex Cody Foster: that he had done both wrong. 420 00:20:26,810 --> 00:20:30,020 Joel Comm: So do you do you feel like he was responsible 421 00:20:30,020 --> 00:20:30,950 Joel Comm: for the neighbor? 422 00:20:31,790 --> 00:20:34,669 Alex Cody Foster: Yeah, for sure. In fact, it's towards the end of 423 00:20:34,670 --> 00:20:37,729 Alex Cody Foster: my book. I haven't actually talked about it publicly, but. 424 00:20:38,210 --> 00:20:40,979 Joel Comm: Oh, this is a this is a premiere right here, gang. 425 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:41,810 Joel Comm: First time. 426 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,770 Alex Cody Foster: I'll say. All I really am allowed to say at 427 00:20:45,770 --> 00:20:49,280 Alex Cody Foster: this point is that someone reached out to me after 428 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,680 Alex Cody Foster: the Netflix film dropped. Actually, it was the very next 429 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,040 Alex Cody Foster: morning the Netflix film dropped and there was a guy 430 00:20:55,220 --> 00:20:57,260 Alex Cody Foster: who's work with John in Belize and he said, Hey, 431 00:20:57,260 --> 00:20:59,840 Alex Cody Foster: I was there that night. I know exactly what happened. 432 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,790 Alex Cody Foster: And I can tell you the full story. I've never 433 00:21:01,790 --> 00:21:04,480 Alex Cody Foster: told anybody why. And he said, Can I get a 434 00:21:04,490 --> 00:21:05,960 Alex Cody Foster: can I get you on the call? On a call? 435 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,660 Alex Cody Foster: And I said, Yes. And I talked to him for 436 00:21:08,660 --> 00:21:13,010 Alex Cody Foster: an hour and 45 minutes, recorded the conversation. And I 437 00:21:13,010 --> 00:21:16,070 Alex Cody Foster: discuss the details of that conversation towards the end of 438 00:21:16,070 --> 00:21:16,550 Alex Cody Foster: this book. 439 00:21:17,210 --> 00:21:19,730 Joel Comm: Okay. Well, clearly, we're going to tell everybody, go get 440 00:21:19,730 --> 00:21:21,320 Joel Comm: the book. But I'm going to ask you for that 441 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,840 Joel Comm: one story. Right. Here is the teaser, because it's going 442 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,179 Joel Comm: to be the thing that everybody's going to be like. 443 00:21:25,190 --> 00:21:26,540 Joel Comm: I got to read the rest of what he's got 444 00:21:26,540 --> 00:21:26,990 Joel Comm: to say. 445 00:21:27,260 --> 00:21:29,840 Travis Wright: Mm hmm. And I guess it surprised you. I'm surprised 446 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,360 Travis Wright: that after Belize, when he was on the run, like 447 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,550 Travis Wright: he didn't end up going to Panama or something. You're 448 00:21:34,550 --> 00:21:34,820 Travis Wright: the one. 449 00:21:34,820 --> 00:21:36,439 Joel Comm: You son of a bitch. You got it in. I 450 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:37,250 Joel Comm: was going to get that. 451 00:21:38,420 --> 00:21:40,369 Travis Wright: Y got to be a son of a bitch. Yeah, 452 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,000 Travis Wright: I'm the one. 453 00:21:41,390 --> 00:21:42,440 Joel Comm: I don't know. Stay frosty. 454 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,390 Travis Wright: Travis. Okay. I'm sorry. So? So. 455 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,149 Joel Comm: Yeah, go ahead. Talk, Alex. 456 00:21:47,420 --> 00:21:49,699 Alex Cody Foster: You want to answer? So it's sort of a long story. 457 00:21:49,700 --> 00:21:51,230 Alex Cody Foster: I'm going to have to give you the short version. 458 00:21:51,770 --> 00:21:52,570 Joel Comm: Bridget for us. 459 00:21:52,580 --> 00:21:57,139 Alex Cody Foster: Sure. Essentially, this guy was there. John admitted to him 460 00:21:57,530 --> 00:22:00,740 Alex Cody Foster: what had happened because, you know, John's dogs were poisoned. 461 00:22:00,740 --> 00:22:04,189 Alex Cody Foster: So this man went with John? No, sorry. John was 462 00:22:04,220 --> 00:22:08,180 Alex Cody Foster: with the girls and stuff. He used to spend on average, 463 00:22:08,180 --> 00:22:10,280 Alex Cody Foster: like 2 hours, one or 2 hours a night with 464 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,870 Alex Cody Foster: each girl in their various rooms on the property. So 465 00:22:12,869 --> 00:22:14,359 Alex Cody Foster: what the guy said, you know. 466 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:14,990 Travis Wright: Daddy. 467 00:22:15,390 --> 00:22:17,960 Alex Cody Foster: He had a big time. And so at some point. 468 00:22:18,170 --> 00:22:20,510 Travis Wright: How much stamina for him to spend an hour with 469 00:22:20,510 --> 00:22:23,550 Travis Wright: you that I'm going to come over here and that's ass. 470 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:24,170 Alex Cody Foster: I mean, that's. 471 00:22:24,430 --> 00:22:24,650 Travis Wright: What. 472 00:22:24,740 --> 00:22:27,050 Joel Comm: It seems. The woman that he was like, you know, 473 00:22:27,050 --> 00:22:28,910 Joel Comm: I think I'm hot, the teacher. And he was. 474 00:22:28,910 --> 00:22:32,660 Travis Wright: Talking about like, I'm going to them get it because 475 00:22:32,660 --> 00:22:36,470 Travis Wright: everybody wants to get a library for John McAfee for sure. 476 00:22:37,369 --> 00:22:39,920 Alex Cody Foster: We had a librarian face to That was a funny story. 477 00:22:40,310 --> 00:22:45,800 Alex Cody Foster: So he he his dogs are poison. He was really pissed. Obviously. 478 00:22:45,900 --> 00:22:52,000 Alex Cody Foster: Wouldn't be and. Anyway, my guy, he said that he 479 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,140 Alex Cody Foster: saw tracks in the sand and they led to Gregory 480 00:22:56,140 --> 00:22:59,260 Alex Cody Foster: Falls House. He followed the tracks in the sand from 481 00:22:59,260 --> 00:23:01,960 Alex Cody Foster: where all the dogs were poisoned and vomiting, blood and dying. 482 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,180 Alex Cody Foster: And he followed them all the way to grandma's house. 483 00:23:04,180 --> 00:23:06,399 Alex Cody Foster: And he told John, Hey, look, I'm not saying he 484 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,070 Alex Cody Foster: did it, but I found the tracks leading right to 485 00:23:09,070 --> 00:23:11,889 Alex Cody Foster: his house, and it's around the same time. The prints 486 00:23:11,890 --> 00:23:15,129 Alex Cody Foster: are still fresh because the waves had receded, so the 487 00:23:15,130 --> 00:23:18,010 Alex Cody Foster: sand was wet. You could tell that the prints refreshed, 488 00:23:18,790 --> 00:23:21,399 Alex Cody Foster: which indicated that it was in the same time frame 489 00:23:21,490 --> 00:23:25,050 Alex Cody Foster: and therefore John was pissed. John thought it was great. 490 00:23:25,330 --> 00:23:28,629 Alex Cody Foster: He did it. And so anyway. 491 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,630 Travis Wright: He went vigilante on their ass right there. What was 492 00:23:31,630 --> 00:23:34,150 Travis Wright: new around the. What was the deal about Greg False parrot. 493 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,650 Travis Wright: Is it because he had a parrot? Yeah. It's something 494 00:23:37,660 --> 00:23:39,670 Travis Wright: that he. That dog that night of the dog. Kill 495 00:23:39,670 --> 00:23:41,170 Travis Wright: the parrot or something? I don't remember. 496 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,230 Alex Cody Foster: I didn't really hear much about the parrot, except that 497 00:23:44,650 --> 00:23:46,600 Alex Cody Foster: one of the dogs freaked out and tried to get 498 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,720 Alex Cody Foster: at it and upset Greg because, you know, that was 499 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,909 Alex Cody Foster: his best friend right there on the shoulder. So he's like, What? 500 00:23:52,090 --> 00:23:53,170 Alex Cody Foster: All right, get out of here. 501 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,180 Travis Wright: He was a true pirate. They're hanging out in Belize 502 00:23:55,180 --> 00:23:56,199 Travis Wright: with his parents and stuff. 503 00:23:56,619 --> 00:23:58,740 Alex Cody Foster: I guess so. I don't really know what happened there. 504 00:23:58,790 --> 00:24:02,540 Alex Cody Foster: That's a good question. But. So the end of that 505 00:24:02,540 --> 00:24:05,959 Alex Cody Foster: story is that John was always with the girls every night. 506 00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:08,989 Alex Cody Foster: Every night that the guy worked with, John was like 507 00:24:09,020 --> 00:24:10,970 Alex Cody Foster: about a month at this point. He was working with him. 508 00:24:11,450 --> 00:24:16,310 Alex Cody Foster: And the night of false murder, he wasn't there. John 509 00:24:16,310 --> 00:24:21,020 Alex Cody Foster: was completely unaccounted for, which was strange. And anyway, he 510 00:24:21,020 --> 00:24:24,310 Alex Cody Foster: got on the phone with a guy. You got on 511 00:24:24,310 --> 00:24:27,639 Alex Cody Foster: the phone with the guy before John? I'm sorry. Before 512 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,100 Alex Cody Foster: Greg was murdered that morning, he said, I don't fucking 513 00:24:30,100 --> 00:24:32,740 Alex Cody Foster: care where you are. You get on like Tropicana Air 514 00:24:32,770 --> 00:24:36,160 Alex Cody Foster: and you get your ass here right now. Right fucking now. 515 00:24:36,430 --> 00:24:41,830 Alex Cody Foster: And he hung up. And the next day, the next day, 516 00:24:41,830 --> 00:24:45,850 Alex Cody Foster: Eddie McCoy shows up and my guys introduced John as 517 00:24:45,850 --> 00:24:52,250 Alex Cody Foster: a low. And anyway, he. Like I said that. The 518 00:24:52,250 --> 00:24:55,730 Alex Cody Foster: next morning after Gregory Falls murdered, he saw this commotion 519 00:24:56,150 --> 00:24:58,560 Alex Cody Foster: and John was playing in the pool with Samantha and 520 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,240 Alex Cody Foster: laughing and just like throwing a beach ball or something, 521 00:25:02,250 --> 00:25:04,610 Alex Cody Foster: having a grand old time while all this crazy commotion 522 00:25:04,609 --> 00:25:07,070 Alex Cody Foster: was going on up next door. And my guy went 523 00:25:07,070 --> 00:25:08,840 Alex Cody Foster: over to him and he said, Hey, John, I think 524 00:25:09,140 --> 00:25:13,040 Alex Cody Foster: something happened to that guy, Greg, you know, And John 525 00:25:13,580 --> 00:25:16,220 Alex Cody Foster: kind of like lowered his head and he was like, Yeah, 526 00:25:16,550 --> 00:25:18,619 Alex Cody Foster: and he was just supposed to scare him. He wasn't 527 00:25:18,619 --> 00:25:23,040 Alex Cody Foster: supposed to shoot him. And, you know, my guy went 528 00:25:23,090 --> 00:25:25,040 Alex Cody Foster: wide eyed. He's like, I'm going to go to my 529 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,470 Alex Cody Foster: room now. So he went to his room. Eventually, he 530 00:25:27,470 --> 00:25:29,480 Alex Cody Foster: got arrested, along with some of the other members of 531 00:25:29,490 --> 00:25:33,740 Alex Cody Foster: the household. John went on the run, etc.. And I 532 00:25:33,740 --> 00:25:37,520 Alex Cody Foster: think his name is Cashin told my guy that not 533 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,540 Alex Cody Foster: only had John ordered the hit, but he had also 534 00:25:41,540 --> 00:25:45,409 Alex Cody Foster: ordered the hit on an unnamed American expat in the 535 00:25:45,410 --> 00:25:47,990 Alex Cody Foster: south of Belize. So it was yet another guy who 536 00:25:47,990 --> 00:25:51,620 Alex Cody Foster: John had killed. And then there's David Middleton. There is 537 00:25:51,619 --> 00:25:53,840 Alex Cody Foster: in my book profile that John admitted to me. There's 538 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,530 Alex Cody Foster: a white lobster guy, white lobsters, cocaine that washes up 539 00:25:57,530 --> 00:26:00,199 Alex Cody Foster: on shore because that's how they do some of their 540 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,560 Alex Cody Foster: drug runs. They they tie him to booze, kilos and 541 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,500 Alex Cody Foster: kilos of cocaine. If they get dislodged, they wash up 542 00:26:06,500 --> 00:26:09,949 Alex Cody Foster: on shore and villagers or something take anything that they're dead. 543 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,600 Alex Cody Foster: And some white lobster guy thought John had stolen his cocaine, 544 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,910 Alex Cody Foster: which is oxymoronic because John was a millionaire and had 545 00:26:16,910 --> 00:26:20,389 Alex Cody Foster: all the cocaine he could want. So John had to 546 00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:21,409 Alex Cody Foster: have him killed as well. 547 00:26:21,950 --> 00:26:24,199 Travis Wright: And then they got how many people do you think 548 00:26:24,770 --> 00:26:27,650 Travis Wright: reached met their maker as a result of John magazine? 549 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,450 Alex Cody Foster: If if everything told to me is true and B five, 550 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,360 Alex Cody Foster: and that is if John did, in fact kill his father, 551 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,520 Alex Cody Foster: which was told to me, I'm not going to say 552 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,500 Alex Cody Foster: that I proved that I didn't. But it was told 553 00:26:39,500 --> 00:26:41,899 Alex Cody Foster: to me in confidence. And so that would be five 554 00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:43,460 Alex Cody Foster: people to get around. 555 00:26:43,460 --> 00:26:45,740 Joel Comm: John And you're like, Somebody get me a doctor. 556 00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:48,379 Alex Cody Foster: And so he. 557 00:26:48,380 --> 00:26:50,300 Travis Wright: Got me here on this one. I'm I'm a little 558 00:26:50,300 --> 00:26:53,330 Travis Wright: I'm a little shooken up, you know. So I guess 559 00:26:53,330 --> 00:26:55,310 Travis Wright: technically six because he offed himself. 560 00:26:56,030 --> 00:26:57,139 Alex Cody Foster: Right? Allegedly. 561 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:58,710 Travis Wright: Which is to. 562 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,000 Joel Comm: A great question. You know, we had Janis on the show. 563 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,629 Joel Comm: I asked so many questions, actually, because Janis was hardly 564 00:27:05,630 --> 00:27:08,230 Joel Comm: in the documentary. And I learned about, you know, this 565 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,350 Joel Comm: this other woman, Samantha Herrera, that you were hanging out 566 00:27:12,350 --> 00:27:16,550 Joel Comm: with and that you're along with and like. So. All right, 567 00:27:16,820 --> 00:27:19,609 Joel Comm: first question then is about the girls that come on 568 00:27:19,609 --> 00:27:22,639 Joel Comm: to share for those who are watching the video. This 569 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,030 Joel Comm: is the the article that I pulled up here on 570 00:27:26,330 --> 00:27:30,080 Joel Comm: prime time recom netflix john mcafee doc filmmakers accused of 571 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,400 Joel Comm: questionable tactics because in the film samantha and you could 572 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,190 Joel Comm: see on the video for those you're watching which shows 573 00:27:37,190 --> 00:27:40,460 Joel Comm: is one of his girlfriends. At the end of it, 574 00:27:40,820 --> 00:27:45,380 Joel Comm: she says she got a call from Texas from saying 575 00:27:45,470 --> 00:27:48,860 Joel Comm: that from John and saying that he was still alive. 576 00:27:48,859 --> 00:27:53,419 Joel Comm: This was after he was allegedly. And but I guess 577 00:27:53,420 --> 00:27:58,790 Joel Comm: she said this was taken out of context. So first 578 00:27:58,790 --> 00:28:04,760 Joel Comm: question is about that and then your opinion, because Janis 579 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,100 Joel Comm: says they've not seen the body yet, is there a 580 00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:10,460 Joel Comm: chance that he's still alive and just in hiding? 581 00:28:11,790 --> 00:28:15,390 Alex Cody Foster: So about that. I'm not really sure how you can 582 00:28:15,390 --> 00:28:18,690 Alex Cody Foster: take that quote out of context. When you ask someone explicitly, 583 00:28:18,690 --> 00:28:22,350 Alex Cody Foster: do you think he's still alive? And then she says explicitly, 584 00:28:22,350 --> 00:28:26,250 Alex Cody Foster: I received a call. Weeks after his death. I mean, 585 00:28:26,460 --> 00:28:28,949 Alex Cody Foster: the context is already there. The context came out of 586 00:28:28,950 --> 00:28:31,439 Alex Cody Foster: her own mouth. So I'm really not sure what the 587 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,350 Alex Cody Foster: argument is there. 588 00:28:32,369 --> 00:28:36,389 Joel Comm: Well, what she said is here I got a call 589 00:28:36,390 --> 00:28:39,750 Joel Comm: from Texas from someone saying it was John who said 590 00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:40,830 Joel Comm: he was still alive. 591 00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:42,300 Alex Cody Foster: Oh, I could see that. 592 00:28:42,540 --> 00:28:44,640 Joel Comm: I would have filmmakers that I didn't know if it 593 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,100 Joel Comm: was him or someone posing as him. I said that 594 00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:48,900 Joel Comm: on the film, but it wasn't used. 595 00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:52,469 Travis Wright: So I got a call from someone in Texas, not 596 00:28:52,470 --> 00:28:53,280 Travis Wright: a call from just. 597 00:28:53,490 --> 00:28:56,630 Joel Comm: Clint claiming they were John. And I'm thinking, you know what? 598 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,820 Joel Comm: You would know his voice. How would you not know? 599 00:29:00,210 --> 00:29:02,670 Travis Wright: And you wouldn't be in Texas. He wouldn't be in Texas? 600 00:29:02,940 --> 00:29:04,980 Alex Cody Foster: No, no, of course not. Even he would not go 601 00:29:04,980 --> 00:29:06,990 Alex Cody Foster: back to America. The one place that he was worried 602 00:29:06,990 --> 00:29:09,870 Alex Cody Foster: about getting extradited to, he would be in the Far 603 00:29:09,870 --> 00:29:11,490 Alex Cody Foster: East somewhere looking like a king. 604 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:13,200 Travis Wright: But the body. 605 00:29:13,410 --> 00:29:15,240 Joel Comm: Has not been turned over yet. 606 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:16,050 Alex Cody Foster: Well, I'll tell you. 607 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:17,820 Joel Comm: Yeah. What's going on here? 608 00:29:17,850 --> 00:29:20,370 Alex Cody Foster: I'll give you some more context there. And, you know, 609 00:29:20,370 --> 00:29:22,500 Alex Cody Foster: she had any doubts whatsoever? I don't think I would 610 00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:27,060 Alex Cody Foster: have brought it up myself. In the weeks after John died. 611 00:29:27,570 --> 00:29:31,110 Alex Cody Foster: I got a telegram notification, said John. Mark is join Telegram. 612 00:29:31,630 --> 00:29:32,620 Alex Cody Foster: I thought, What the fuck? 613 00:29:34,260 --> 00:29:34,770 Travis Wright: That was so. 614 00:29:34,770 --> 00:29:37,050 Alex Cody Foster: Weird. Yeah, because I still had John's number and I 615 00:29:37,050 --> 00:29:40,170 Alex Cody Foster: wrote to the guy, woman, whomever, and I said, Hey, 616 00:29:40,190 --> 00:29:42,390 Alex Cody Foster: you know, you're using a dead guy's phone right now. 617 00:29:42,390 --> 00:29:45,170 Alex Cody Foster: Who are you? And he read the message. Didn't respond. 618 00:29:45,300 --> 00:29:47,510 Alex Cody Foster: I think it was a few hours later that the 619 00:29:47,550 --> 00:29:50,970 Alex Cody Foster: account was deleted. So I thought maybe that was Janice 620 00:29:50,970 --> 00:29:54,240 Alex Cody Foster: who had the the phone. Maybe it was the feds. 621 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,810 Alex Cody Foster: Maybe it was John. I don't know. And I'll never know. 622 00:29:57,900 --> 00:29:58,920 Alex Cody Foster: And I'm okay with that. 623 00:29:59,410 --> 00:30:02,790 Joel Comm: So. So you don't know. You don't have feelings. Maybe 624 00:30:02,790 --> 00:30:04,320 Joel Comm: he's dead, and maybe he's not. 625 00:30:04,350 --> 00:30:06,570 Alex Cody Foster: I have feelings. Yeah, I believe he's dead, for sure. 626 00:30:06,930 --> 00:30:10,200 Alex Cody Foster: You do? Yeah. I mean, he died 2 hours after 627 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,570 Alex Cody Foster: it was announced that he was going to be extradited 628 00:30:12,570 --> 00:30:16,740 Alex Cody Foster: to America, where he was facing serious charges. And given 629 00:30:16,740 --> 00:30:18,480 Alex Cody Foster: what he knew, at least what he told me, that 630 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,230 Alex Cody Foster: he knew, he probably could have started singing like a 631 00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:25,170 Alex Cody Foster: bird and gotten a community sentence. And maybe certain people 632 00:30:25,170 --> 00:30:26,880 Alex Cody Foster: were afraid that he was going to do that. So 633 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:27,240 Alex Cody Foster: they had to. 634 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,060 Joel Comm: But allegedly there was a dead switch anyway, that all 635 00:30:30,060 --> 00:30:33,150 Joel Comm: this information that, you know, his room has all of 636 00:30:33,150 --> 00:30:37,740 Joel Comm: this and what's been released. So was that all bogus? 637 00:30:37,740 --> 00:30:38,800 Joel Comm: He didn't have anything. 638 00:30:38,820 --> 00:30:41,280 Alex Cody Foster: We talked about his Deadman's switch a few times. In fact, 639 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,000 Alex Cody Foster: it's in the book, too. And he mentioned I asked him, 640 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,160 Alex Cody Foster: you know, after he told me some crazy things, like 641 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,140 Alex Cody Foster: he had built up a backdoor in his software to 642 00:30:49,140 --> 00:30:51,600 Alex Cody Foster: spy on everyone. I asked him, John, why don't you 643 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,000 Alex Cody Foster: release this information? He said, Because if I do, I'm 644 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,520 Alex Cody Foster: a dead man. But when I was. 645 00:30:55,550 --> 00:30:57,140 Travis Wright: On D.O.A., baby. Yeah, yeah. 646 00:30:57,540 --> 00:30:59,850 Alex Cody Foster: He said, But when I do die, whether it's by 647 00:30:59,850 --> 00:31:03,350 Alex Cody Foster: accident or it's natural causes or it's not an accident, 648 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,390 Alex Cody Foster: he said this information will be released out. He told 649 00:31:06,390 --> 00:31:09,000 Alex Cody Foster: me it was in the it was in law offices, 650 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,090 Alex Cody Foster: like five different law offices all around the world with 651 00:31:12,090 --> 00:31:16,380 Alex Cody Foster: trusted lawyers who were going to bring that material forward. 652 00:31:16,380 --> 00:31:18,290 Alex Cody Foster: And he said it was with other people as well. 653 00:31:18,300 --> 00:31:21,360 Alex Cody Foster: And he didn't tell me who. But, you know, we 654 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,120 Alex Cody Foster: talked about it at one point. And he did mention, 655 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,580 Alex Cody Foster: you know, I said to them, why are you afraid? 656 00:31:26,580 --> 00:31:28,140 Alex Cody Foster: You know, these people are going to kill you. And 657 00:31:28,140 --> 00:31:30,570 Alex Cody Foster: he said, Well, Alex, what if there's this tactical operation 658 00:31:30,930 --> 00:31:35,070 Alex Cody Foster: and everybody, you know, hits my dead men, switches my 659 00:31:35,070 --> 00:31:38,640 Alex Cody Foster: locations at once, they take them, they get the word out, 660 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,100 Alex Cody Foster: they say, Yeah, 15 minutes. We got all of them. 661 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,130 Alex Cody Foster: Let's take them out and then kill me. He said, 662 00:31:44,130 --> 00:31:46,140 Alex Cody Foster: I won't know what the fuck is going on. I 663 00:31:46,140 --> 00:31:49,350 Alex Cody Foster: won't know it will be. You know what? Nobody's going 664 00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:51,010 Alex Cody Foster: to let me know if they get all of them. 665 00:31:51,010 --> 00:31:53,729 Alex Cody Foster: And once they take them all at once, then I'm 666 00:31:53,730 --> 00:31:54,060 Alex Cody Foster: a dead. 667 00:31:56,690 --> 00:31:58,400 Travis Wright: Wow. It's out. You got to watch out for that 668 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,430 Travis Wright: mean streak. I'll tell you what. You know, watching this 669 00:32:01,430 --> 00:32:04,100 Travis Wright: thing and again, as George said, you got to watch 670 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:09,320 Travis Wright: this documentary. The book just came out today. And the documentary, 671 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,420 Travis Wright: what about about an hour and a half or so? 672 00:32:13,190 --> 00:32:15,860 Travis Wright: Take a look at it. Watch it in the end 673 00:32:15,860 --> 00:32:18,650 Travis Wright: of what's going on, because John McAfee was on a 674 00:32:18,650 --> 00:32:21,110 Travis Wright: wild ride, folks. He was on a while. 675 00:32:21,230 --> 00:32:23,300 Joel Comm: Here's the book, by the way. The book is titled 676 00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:27,020 Joel Comm: Different The Man Who Hacked the World A Ghostwriters Descent 677 00:32:27,020 --> 00:32:32,090 Joel Comm: into Madness with John Malcolm's date, November 15th, 2022. I 678 00:32:32,090 --> 00:32:33,739 Joel Comm: don't know who else has bought it, but I'm going 679 00:32:33,740 --> 00:32:36,950 Joel Comm: to go ahead and support right now. You guys don't 680 00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:39,260 Joel Comm: need to see my password to log in and stuff, 681 00:32:39,260 --> 00:32:41,240 Joel Comm: but I'm going to go ahead and pick up a 682 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,940 Joel Comm: copy here and have it shipped to Puerto Rico, because 683 00:32:43,940 --> 00:32:45,350 Joel Comm: it sounds like an amazing read. 684 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,090 Alex Cody Foster: Thanks, man. I appreciate that. 685 00:32:48,180 --> 00:32:51,000 Joel Comm: Maybe. Maybe I'm number one who. 686 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,510 Travis Wright: But I think that you are an atomic punk. I'm 687 00:32:54,510 --> 00:32:55,050 Travis Wright: saying that. 688 00:32:55,380 --> 00:32:57,209 Alex Cody Foster: It's been on pre-sale for a couple of months, and 689 00:32:57,210 --> 00:32:59,280 Alex Cody Foster: I guess it's in the top 5% of sales or 690 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,550 Alex Cody Foster: something that they've ever had. And just because. 691 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:02,640 Joel Comm: The surprise me. 692 00:33:02,850 --> 00:33:03,780 Alex Cody Foster: Doesn't surprise. 693 00:33:03,780 --> 00:33:05,520 Joel Comm: Me, I mean, it's that they've ever. 694 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:06,030 Travis Wright: Had. 695 00:33:06,630 --> 00:33:08,970 Alex Cody Foster: Yeah, that's yeah, it's in the history of the publisher. 696 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,740 Alex Cody Foster: So I guess it's mostly. 697 00:33:10,740 --> 00:33:11,370 Travis Wright: To my brother. 698 00:33:12,460 --> 00:33:14,770 Alex Cody Foster: I guess so. I don't know. We'll see if it sucks. 699 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,480 Alex Cody Foster: Maybe it does. Who knows? 700 00:33:16,930 --> 00:33:17,270 Travis Wright: I don't know. 701 00:33:17,410 --> 00:33:19,030 Joel Comm: I mean, it sure doesn't. 702 00:33:19,420 --> 00:33:21,250 Travis Wright: Yeah, I'm sure it does. Anything else you'd like folks 703 00:33:21,250 --> 00:33:24,170 Travis Wright: to know about John McAfee in this crazy journey you 704 00:33:24,170 --> 00:33:24,520 Travis Wright: were on? 705 00:33:25,330 --> 00:33:28,060 Alex Cody Foster: Shit. I don't know. That's a that's a big question. 706 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,430 Joel Comm: We're like, big questions. The bad crypto podcast, because we're 707 00:33:33,430 --> 00:33:36,430 Joel Comm: human beings, humans being. Isn't that the title? 708 00:33:36,490 --> 00:33:40,270 Travis Wright: Human human being is being. How many have we covered? 709 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,440 Travis Wright: We've got at least 20. 710 00:33:41,740 --> 00:33:43,530 Joel Comm: I don't know. Somebody out there is counting. Maybe. 711 00:33:44,470 --> 00:33:46,690 Alex Cody Foster: And if you guys need like a ticker every time 712 00:33:46,690 --> 00:33:50,410 Alex Cody Foster: the reference that's made with like Eddie Van Halen's face 713 00:33:50,410 --> 00:33:53,050 Alex Cody Foster: popping up, you know, like rocking out, you should do that. 714 00:33:53,050 --> 00:33:53,470 Travis Wright: I can. 715 00:33:54,910 --> 00:33:56,890 Joel Comm: Stage swing it across and battle. 716 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,920 Alex Cody Foster: It. Well, yeah, I can answer that question with a 717 00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:04,480 Alex Cody Foster: hopefully half decent answer. So John is one of those 718 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,660 Alex Cody Foster: rare people in the world who is unquantifiable. You can't 719 00:34:07,660 --> 00:34:11,080 Alex Cody Foster: ever solve the mystery of John. I spent 430 pages 720 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,910 Alex Cody Foster: trying to do so, and I spent six months with 721 00:34:12,910 --> 00:34:15,609 Alex Cody Foster: him and have more time with him than any other writer. 722 00:34:15,610 --> 00:34:19,720 Alex Cody Foster: Representative Media and I still barely scratched the surface because 723 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,529 Alex Cody Foster: he is so adding back. So I was was so brilliant. 724 00:34:23,570 --> 00:34:27,250 Alex Cody Foster: I was so disturbed. You know, he's he's probably going 725 00:34:27,250 --> 00:34:29,500 Alex Cody Foster: to be an enduring mystery. And I think that's why people. 726 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,150 Alex Cody Foster: You know, have flocked to the film and why people 727 00:34:33,150 --> 00:34:36,740 Alex Cody Foster: are buying the book because they love mysteries. And you 728 00:34:36,780 --> 00:34:37,770 Alex Cody Foster: got one here with John. 729 00:34:40,180 --> 00:34:43,630 Joel Comm: That is. That is for sure. So when we had Janis, 730 00:34:43,630 --> 00:34:47,620 Joel Comm: you know, we've assumed that Janice's, his wife, did. Now, 731 00:34:47,620 --> 00:34:49,899 Joel Comm: I don't know if legally at least you know by 732 00:34:49,900 --> 00:34:53,529 Joel Comm: the state if that's true or not. But I did 733 00:34:53,530 --> 00:34:57,160 Joel Comm: not realize that he had this other girlfriend. And like, 734 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,380 Joel Comm: what were the dynamics of that? Were they there at 735 00:34:59,380 --> 00:35:02,979 Joel Comm: the same time, or was there a crossover where he 736 00:35:02,980 --> 00:35:05,470 Joel Comm: was no longer with Samantha and he was with Janice? 737 00:35:06,100 --> 00:35:08,150 Alex Cody Foster: So that was before my time. But I know the story, 738 00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:11,380 Alex Cody Foster: and this is 2012. John was with five or six 739 00:35:11,620 --> 00:35:14,320 Alex Cody Foster: younger girls at that period of time, and he went 740 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,109 Alex Cody Foster: to Miami and he was at the News Cafe and 741 00:35:17,110 --> 00:35:18,009 Alex Cody Foster: he met James on top. 742 00:35:18,010 --> 00:35:20,140 Travis Wright: Of the world, Miami, four or five women at the 743 00:35:20,140 --> 00:35:20,800 Travis Wright: same time. 744 00:35:21,790 --> 00:35:23,680 Alex Cody Foster: He was having a ball, but he met Janice. And 745 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,560 Alex Cody Foster: I don't know if you would call it love, but 746 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,940 Alex Cody Foster: they had something that. I've never. 747 00:35:29,210 --> 00:35:31,430 Travis Wright: Seen before. I want to love all five at the 748 00:35:31,430 --> 00:35:34,040 Travis Wright: same time. You know what? God bless you, John. 749 00:35:34,190 --> 00:35:36,649 Joel Comm: He saw her and he was like, Oh, pretty woman. 750 00:35:36,739 --> 00:35:39,469 Alex Cody Foster: Mm hmm. Then, you know, you got to understand in 751 00:35:39,469 --> 00:35:42,920 Alex Cody Foster: this relates to the question earlier about Sam's. He had 752 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,130 Alex Cody Foster: promised Sam the world. He promised her uncle he was 753 00:35:46,130 --> 00:35:47,719 Alex Cody Foster: going to marry her. He promised her he was going 754 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,650 Alex Cody Foster: to marry her because she came from like a you know, 755 00:35:50,660 --> 00:35:53,630 Alex Cody Foster: from poverty. Right. She she wanted a life and a 756 00:35:53,630 --> 00:35:55,880 Alex Cody Foster: future with him. And then he met Janis and he 757 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,790 Alex Cody Foster: threw it all away. He didn't ever go back to Sam. 758 00:35:59,210 --> 00:36:02,719 Alex Cody Foster: And so that's what happened. And I think it's partly 759 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,730 Alex Cody Foster: why she brought that up in the movie is she 760 00:36:04,730 --> 00:36:07,550 Alex Cody Foster: wanted to hold on to some last little piece of 761 00:36:07,550 --> 00:36:10,560 Alex Cody Foster: John that she had, even if it was fabricated. You know, 762 00:36:10,700 --> 00:36:14,000 Alex Cody Foster: and maybe it was like a slight a slight to Janis, 763 00:36:14,010 --> 00:36:17,510 Alex Cody Foster: you know, like he called me, not you, you know, 764 00:36:17,510 --> 00:36:19,820 Alex Cody Foster: like he he called me saying he want to run 765 00:36:19,820 --> 00:36:24,770 Alex Cody Foster: away with me. But, you know, in my opinion, John 766 00:36:24,770 --> 00:36:27,049 Alex Cody Foster: left a lot of people. He abandoned a lot of people. 767 00:36:27,050 --> 00:36:29,540 Alex Cody Foster: He actually did hurt a lot of people. And she 768 00:36:29,540 --> 00:36:30,850 Alex Cody Foster: was one of them, you know. 769 00:36:31,610 --> 00:36:33,560 Travis Wright: Left a lot of people wanting him to finish what 770 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,250 Travis Wright: he started. And he just not doing that. Wow. I'll 771 00:36:37,270 --> 00:36:41,330 Travis Wright: tell you what's a wild, wild, wild story. And now 772 00:36:41,330 --> 00:36:44,270 Travis Wright: you got a book coming out today and you can 773 00:36:44,270 --> 00:36:46,219 Travis Wright: learn a little bit more about that, I would say. 774 00:36:46,219 --> 00:36:47,060 Travis Wright: Bottoms up, brother. 775 00:36:47,510 --> 00:36:50,120 Joel Comm: Yeah. If you haven't seen the documentary yet, go to 776 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,049 Joel Comm: Netflix and watch Running with the Devil. It's an amazing documentary. 777 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:59,359 Joel Comm: You can see Alex's website at Alex Foster Ghostwriter dot com. 778 00:36:59,630 --> 00:37:02,900 Joel Comm: And then the book, The Man Who Hacked the World. See, 779 00:37:02,900 --> 00:37:05,330 Joel Comm: there's the proof. You purchased a hardcover form out of 780 00:37:05,330 --> 00:37:08,850 Joel Comm: this today. A ghost rider. Descent into Madness with John McAfee. 781 00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:12,950 Joel Comm: And just a quick note here that as a ghostwriter 782 00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:17,480 Joel Comm: for many years, you have a course ghostwriting university dot com. 783 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,540 Joel Comm: If you want to find out how to get paid 784 00:37:20,780 --> 00:37:24,230 Joel Comm: to write words and do stuff. Alex's got that here 785 00:37:24,230 --> 00:37:26,920 Joel Comm: as well. So I recommend you guys go check it out. 786 00:37:26,930 --> 00:37:30,350 Joel Comm: There is definitely big business and writing for other people. 787 00:37:30,890 --> 00:37:35,180 Joel Comm: I should know because I've used ghostwriters multiple times for, 788 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,089 Joel Comm: for my words as well. You know, you can you 789 00:37:38,090 --> 00:37:41,480 Joel Comm: can take your the concepts from the subject of the 790 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,200 Joel Comm: book and have somebody who's more disciplined and better at 791 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,730 Joel Comm: paragraphs and punctuation put it all together for you a weave, 792 00:37:49,730 --> 00:37:53,630 Joel Comm: a narrative. And at least on my books, I always 793 00:37:53,630 --> 00:37:55,580 Joel Comm: go in and make sure, Yep, I would say it 794 00:37:55,580 --> 00:37:58,430 Joel Comm: like that. Or no, that's I didn't. I wouldn't mean that. 795 00:37:58,430 --> 00:38:00,080 Joel Comm: I would never say that. This is what I said. 796 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,560 Joel Comm: Make sure that it's accurate. But it saves a lot 797 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,410 Joel Comm: of time, especially if, you know, I can I can 798 00:38:06,410 --> 00:38:10,070 Joel Comm: pound out an article in no time, sit me down 799 00:38:10,070 --> 00:38:12,350 Joel Comm: on my laptop and you want a thousand words on 800 00:38:12,350 --> 00:38:14,750 Joel Comm: whatever the topic is. I'm like, But tell me, I 801 00:38:14,750 --> 00:38:18,259 Joel Comm: got to write 50,000 words and I just like, I 802 00:38:18,260 --> 00:38:20,060 Joel Comm: want to shoot myself. I just, you know. 803 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,550 Travis Wright: That's what we were talking about it. Yeah, you were 804 00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:26,870 Travis Wright: talking about recording your voice, interviewing with the person that's there, 805 00:38:26,870 --> 00:38:29,750 Travis Wright: actually your words, how you transcribe your words. Here are 806 00:38:29,750 --> 00:38:32,540 Travis Wright: my words. Put them together coherently and I'll go back. 807 00:38:32,540 --> 00:38:34,310 Travis Wright: And that's the smart way to do it. I actually 808 00:38:34,310 --> 00:38:36,680 Travis Wright: when I wrote my book, I used I used Google 809 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,050 Travis Wright: Docs and and spoke my book and then it translated 810 00:38:40,050 --> 00:38:42,020 Travis Wright: it really easily. Then I went back in and edit. 811 00:38:42,770 --> 00:38:45,680 Joel Comm: I learned that from Alex Mendoza, an Internet marketer, many 812 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,170 Joel Comm: years ago. He called it writing at the speed of 813 00:38:48,170 --> 00:38:52,729 Joel Comm: sound where you dictate your book and then transcribe it 814 00:38:52,730 --> 00:38:55,820 Joel Comm: and then work through it. So Alex, what would you 815 00:38:55,820 --> 00:38:59,570 Joel Comm: say to aspiring ghostwriters out there? 816 00:38:59,989 --> 00:39:04,219 Alex Cody Foster: It's the best kept secret of the literary industry. You know, 80% 817 00:39:04,580 --> 00:39:07,339 Alex Cody Foster: of nonfiction books are written by people like me, and 818 00:39:07,700 --> 00:39:10,069 Alex Cody Foster: it's an amazing job. It doesn't really feel like a job. 819 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,529 Alex Cody Foster: You know, you travel the world, you meet fascinating people. 820 00:39:12,860 --> 00:39:14,720 Alex Cody Foster: You make really good money. If you're great at what 821 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,300 Alex Cody Foster: you do, make a quarter million a year, half a 822 00:39:17,300 --> 00:39:21,200 Alex Cody Foster: million a year. You know, I just partnered with James 823 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,200 Alex Cody Foster: Patterson's co-author, and we're going to start spearheading a new 824 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,469 Alex Cody Foster: fiction series and try to emulate James Patterson's writing empire. 825 00:39:27,710 --> 00:39:30,710 Travis Wright: Yes, he's amazing. He's amazing. I read the John Lennon 826 00:39:30,950 --> 00:39:34,370 Travis Wright: book that basically that went in that whole process of 827 00:39:34,370 --> 00:39:38,779 Travis Wright: John Lennon. And then the parallel universe was Mark David Chapman. 828 00:39:39,050 --> 00:39:41,420 Travis Wright: And it talked about how John Lennon has gone through 829 00:39:41,420 --> 00:39:42,980 Travis Wright: the Beatles. And I was there and at the same 830 00:39:42,980 --> 00:39:45,980 Travis Wright: time a million things. And then here's Mark David Chapman, 831 00:39:45,980 --> 00:39:48,550 Travis Wright: and then they collided on the street of noon. It 832 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,009 Travis Wright: was it was one of the best books that I've 833 00:39:52,070 --> 00:39:54,560 Travis Wright: sort of read as a nonfiction, sort of a real 834 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,710 Travis Wright: story about a sad topic, because I was John Lennon 835 00:39:57,710 --> 00:40:00,290 Travis Wright: would have been around these last 40 years also as 836 00:40:00,290 --> 00:40:02,989 Travis Wright: Jimi Hendrix would have been around to everybody else. Condi. 837 00:40:02,989 --> 00:40:06,020 Travis Wright: But those two are really shit. 838 00:40:06,020 --> 00:40:07,460 Alex Cody Foster: I didn't even know about that book. I got to 839 00:40:07,460 --> 00:40:08,030 Alex Cody Foster: check it out. 840 00:40:08,210 --> 00:40:09,500 Travis Wright: That's called Let's Get It Right. 841 00:40:09,890 --> 00:40:11,930 Joel Comm: Everybody else can buy you What are you live on 842 00:40:11,930 --> 00:40:12,560 Joel Comm: Main Street? 843 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,620 Travis Wright: Traverse is everybody is going to die eventually. Joel I 844 00:40:15,620 --> 00:40:17,569 Travis Wright: don't know if you know that, but eventually nobody makes 845 00:40:17,570 --> 00:40:19,560 Travis Wright: it off of this rock like that. Hey, Alex Smith. 846 00:40:19,969 --> 00:40:21,859 Travis Wright: And it's true. I want to say thank you. This 847 00:40:21,860 --> 00:40:23,810 Travis Wright: interview was not great, but it was good enough. 848 00:40:24,590 --> 00:40:28,870 Alex Cody Foster: Good? As long as I wasn't bad, I. So I 849 00:40:28,870 --> 00:40:30,930 Alex Cody Foster: figured it would be a good analogy. 850 00:40:31,390 --> 00:40:33,730 Joel Comm: I just want to say pound cake. 851 00:40:34,739 --> 00:40:35,550 Alex Cody Foster: I will eat some. 852 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,700 Joel Comm: I didn't even count the number of Van Halen references. 853 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,419 Joel Comm: There's a lot. Maybe you guys can write us back 854 00:40:42,570 --> 00:40:47,160 Joel Comm: or podcasts at gmail.com and let us know how many 855 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,370 Joel Comm: songs we reference. Feel free to list them all out. 856 00:40:50,820 --> 00:40:53,700 Travis Wright: Mm hmm. Yeah. Or tweet us. I think that that 857 00:40:53,700 --> 00:40:57,509 Travis Wright: there's at least there's at least 25. 858 00:40:57,950 --> 00:41:00,980 Joel Comm: Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot. We pulled them. 859 00:41:01,030 --> 00:41:02,910 Travis Wright: Some of them you probably don't even. Even. They might 860 00:41:02,910 --> 00:41:04,859 Travis Wright: not have said because we were pretty smooth on how 861 00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:07,980 Travis Wright: we set them. Ours was obvious that we were dropping 862 00:41:07,980 --> 00:41:11,390 Travis Wright: a reference, but that's just the way it is. Who? 863 00:41:11,580 --> 00:41:13,620 Travis Wright: Who was better cast, as is. 864 00:41:14,070 --> 00:41:15,779 Joel Comm: David Lee Roth or Sammy Hagar? 865 00:41:16,830 --> 00:41:19,739 Travis Wright: Oh, you know, I think both of them have their 866 00:41:20,100 --> 00:41:23,580 Travis Wright: their pick one. You have to pick one. Well, it 867 00:41:23,580 --> 00:41:27,000 Travis Wright: would always be David Lee Roth. Of course, Van Halen 868 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,420 Travis Wright: wasn't Van Halen until I mean, David Lee Roth was there. 869 00:41:30,420 --> 00:41:33,450 Travis Wright: And like those first seven albums were amazing and they 870 00:41:33,450 --> 00:41:35,339 Travis Wright: dropped or six albums or whatever it is they just 871 00:41:35,340 --> 00:41:39,690 Travis Wright: dropped and boom, boom, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83. 872 00:41:40,110 --> 00:41:42,780 Travis Wright: Almost every year they drop one, which is where they 873 00:41:42,780 --> 00:41:47,839 Travis Wright: were never number one until 1984, or they was almost 874 00:41:48,030 --> 00:41:50,489 Travis Wright: number one in 1984. And they didn't quite because like 875 00:41:50,700 --> 00:41:55,590 Travis Wright: Michael Jackson or something. But then then Van Hagar happens 876 00:41:55,590 --> 00:41:57,420 Travis Wright: and then they get a bunch of number ones. I 877 00:41:57,420 --> 00:42:00,330 Travis Wright: think that's just a result of all the hard work 878 00:42:00,330 --> 00:42:02,850 Travis Wright: they put in. Now, I do think that Dave got 879 00:42:02,850 --> 00:42:05,520 Travis Wright: his big ego in place and he was he was 880 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,800 Travis Wright: having a lot of fun making these videos and he says, 881 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,840 Travis Wright: You know what? I want to go do my own 882 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,070 Travis Wright: thing and be Hollywood, Dave, and do all these videos and. 883 00:42:14,670 --> 00:42:16,469 Travis Wright: And then he just had a really big ego. And 884 00:42:16,469 --> 00:42:18,000 Travis Wright: I could see why they kicked him out because his 885 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,700 Travis Wright: head was huge. Even whenever they brought him back after 886 00:42:20,700 --> 00:42:24,509 Travis Wright: they let Hagar go and he came back for a 887 00:42:24,510 --> 00:42:27,870 Travis Wright: tour and he was This is my night is all 888 00:42:27,870 --> 00:42:30,719 Travis Wright: about me, you know, and it's not. And they kicked 889 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,120 Travis Wright: him out again and they got Gary to run. And 890 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,299 Travis Wright: then finally they brought him back. After Dave, his ego 891 00:42:36,450 --> 00:42:40,620 Travis Wright: was released. The best showman, one of the best, if 892 00:42:40,620 --> 00:42:44,590 Travis Wright: not the best showman in rock and roll. David Lee Roth. Now, 893 00:42:44,610 --> 00:42:50,490 Travis Wright: I do think that Mick Jagger, amazing, probably the best, 894 00:42:50,790 --> 00:42:54,930 Travis Wright: but holy shit, like Van Halen's as a live guy who. 895 00:42:55,410 --> 00:42:59,700 Joel Comm: Yeah, I think Sammy was a suitable replacement, but Van 896 00:42:59,700 --> 00:43:03,420 Joel Comm: Hagar was not better than the original Van. 897 00:43:03,420 --> 00:43:06,120 Travis Wright: Halen, and maybe he sold more albums there during that 898 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:11,160 Travis Wright: time or had higher ratings. But overall, David Lee Roth 899 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,090 Travis Wright: is spectacular. 900 00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:14,339 Joel Comm: So as long as we were talking about John McAfee, 901 00:43:14,340 --> 00:43:17,790 Joel Comm: we still have in the Bad Crypto Nifty Club some 902 00:43:17,790 --> 00:43:23,190 Joel Comm: of these exclusive classic clips from our first interview with 903 00:43:23,190 --> 00:43:27,719 Joel Comm: John McAfee. There's only seven or five of each of these, 904 00:43:27,930 --> 00:43:31,380 Joel Comm: and you can own a classic clip, John, speaking on 905 00:43:31,380 --> 00:43:34,630 Joel Comm: the threat of artificial intelligence. These are video clips, cell 906 00:43:34,739 --> 00:43:38,580 Joel Comm: phone security, the magic of Bitcoin, million dollar Bitcoin. 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And that'd be fun for 915 00:44:07,830 --> 00:44:08,370 Joel Comm: you guys to have. 916 00:44:08,489 --> 00:44:10,080 Travis Wright: I'd say keep an eye on that space because there's 917 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,430 Travis Wright: going to be some new stuff that's going to be 918 00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:15,989 Travis Wright: popping up in that. As bad crypto community grows into 919 00:44:15,989 --> 00:44:18,390 Travis Wright: a collective as we're working with those guys and uncut, 920 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,189 Travis Wright: hopefully they're able to deliver on some of the things 921 00:44:20,190 --> 00:44:22,560 Travis Wright: that they're talking about. If so, that space could get 922 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,390 Travis Wright: a lot cooler and we'll be able to do a 923 00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:27,630 Travis Wright: lot more fun stuff over there. So we've also been. 924 00:44:27,989 --> 00:44:31,529 Joel Comm: Checking the inbox of our voicemail and have downloaded a 925 00:44:31,530 --> 00:44:33,570 Joel Comm: bunch of voicemails which we're going to be playing in 926 00:44:33,570 --> 00:44:36,060 Joel Comm: an upcoming episode. If you want to be in that 927 00:44:36,060 --> 00:44:39,979 Joel Comm: fan show, then call us and leave us a voicemail. 928 00:44:39,989 --> 00:44:50,070 Joel Comm: Take down this number of the bad crypto hotline. 7888590307088859 30. 929 00:44:50,070 --> 00:44:52,230 Joel Comm: And if you didn't write it down there, hit the 930 00:44:52,230 --> 00:44:55,320 Joel Comm: rewind thing on your Spotify or iTunes. It goes back 931 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,200 Joel Comm: 15 seconds and you can hear it again. Leave us 932 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,150 Joel Comm: a voicemail. Tell us what you like. Tell us what 933 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,180 Joel Comm: you don't like to tell us. A corn joke. Tell 934 00:45:03,180 --> 00:45:05,340 Joel Comm: us to stay bad. Whatever it is you want to do, 935 00:45:05,340 --> 00:45:09,270 Joel Comm: ask us a question, give us feedback. Seven, eight, eight, eight, eight, five, 90, 30, 936 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,000 Joel Comm: and maybe you will make it in for your big 937 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,340 Joel Comm: moment on a future episode of the Bad Crypto Podcast. Episode. 938 00:45:16,350 --> 00:45:19,300 Travis Wright: You know, your moment, your moment in the Sun. I 939 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,509 Travis Wright: you know what? We really appreciate you tuning in. You know, 940 00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:25,110 Travis Wright: leave a review if you can, if you haven't already, because, 941 00:45:25,140 --> 00:45:28,350 Travis Wright: you know, the algorithms love the reviews and so do we, 942 00:45:28,350 --> 00:45:31,860 Travis Wright: especially when they're funny. So if they're four stars, five stars, 943 00:45:31,860 --> 00:45:34,239 Travis Wright: you know, And stars, Eight stars. 944 00:45:35,150 --> 00:45:39,529 Joel Comm: It's all good as long as you review and as 945 00:45:39,530 --> 00:45:41,060 Joel Comm: long as you stay back. 946 00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:58,710 Travis Wright: A group Whose band? 947 00:46:00,500 --> 00:46:04,130 Joel Comm: The Bad Crypto podcast is a production of Bad Crypto LLC. 948 00:46:04,310 --> 00:46:07,040 Joel Comm: The content of the show, the videos and the website 949 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:11,149 Joel Comm: is provided for educational, informational and entertainment purposes only. It's 950 00:46:11,150 --> 00:46:15,080 Joel Comm: not intended to be and does not constitute financial investment 951 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,110 Joel Comm: or trading advice of any kind. You shouldn't make any 952 00:46:18,110 --> 00:46:21,770 Joel Comm: decisions as to finances, investing, trading or anything else based 953 00:46:21,770 --> 00:46:26,299 Joel Comm: on this information without undertaking independent due diligence in consultation 954 00:46:26,300 --> 00:46:29,719 Joel Comm: with a professional financial advisor. Please understand that the trading 955 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:34,759 Joel Comm: of Bitcoins and alternative cryptocurrencies have potential risks involved. Anyone 956 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,190 Joel Comm: wishing to invest in any of the currencies or tokens 957 00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:40,520 Joel Comm: mentioned on this podcast should first seek their own independent 958 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:48,680 Joel Comm: professional financial advisor. Have you seen Junior's grades? 959 00:46:49,610 --> 00:46:56,810 Travis Wright: To be so great. We are. 960 00:46:57,050 --> 00:46:58,040 Joel Comm: So good. 961 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,290 Travis Wright: Grade over. You know, I. 962 00:47:00,290 --> 00:47:05,330 Joel Comm: Remember hearing those songs when they were new because I 963 00:47:05,330 --> 00:47:09,440 Joel Comm: was listening to AM FM radio, when I remember when 964 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:10,549 Joel Comm: Van Halen first came. 965 00:47:10,550 --> 00:47:12,469 Travis Wright: Out and I was This. 966 00:47:12,469 --> 00:47:14,149 Joel Comm: Rocks, and then you would just look forward. 967 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:15,229 Travis Wright: If anyone's got a new. 968 00:47:15,230 --> 00:47:17,120 Joel Comm: Album, you'd hear. And I got to tell you, when 969 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,780 Joel Comm: Jump came out, I was not impressed. I thought, Oh, 970 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,920 Joel Comm: they're going synth. Like everybody else in the eighties. And 971 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,460 Joel Comm: Jump is not Jump is fun, but it doesn't rock 972 00:47:28,460 --> 00:47:30,920 Joel Comm: the way earlier stuff does. 973 00:47:31,489 --> 00:47:32,990 Travis Wright: Mm hmm. Oh, I think that was the some getting 974 00:47:32,989 --> 00:47:35,690 Travis Wright: a little Hollywood. They started thinking about what can we 975 00:47:35,690 --> 00:47:38,990 Travis Wright: do for our videos, what can we do to do 976 00:47:39,550 --> 00:47:41,750 Travis Wright: to remain relevant and think about it? You know, that's 977 00:47:41,810 --> 00:47:43,760 Travis Wright: they've been doing it for a while. They're like, you 978 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,989 Travis Wright: don't you're not guaranteed to have a super long career 979 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,520 Travis Wright: any time you're off. But they were launching what what 980 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,710 Travis Wright: I loved about it and there's a really good documentary 981 00:47:51,710 --> 00:47:56,540 Travis Wright: on Amazon Prime about Van Halen. It talks about those 982 00:47:56,540 --> 00:48:00,290 Travis Wright: early years. So Van Halen got together in like 71 983 00:48:00,290 --> 00:48:05,660 Travis Wright: of 72, and they were just playing backyards and, you know, 984 00:48:06,020 --> 00:48:08,180 Travis Wright: doing stuff on the Hollywood strip and stuff for a 985 00:48:08,180 --> 00:48:13,940 Travis Wright: long time. And then actually Gene Simmons of KISS was 986 00:48:13,940 --> 00:48:16,100 Travis Wright: going to sign them and they put together a record 987 00:48:16,100 --> 00:48:19,100 Travis Wright: and demo, and he took it to New York and 988 00:48:19,100 --> 00:48:20,840 Travis Wright: they did a live it wherever he took it. You 989 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,540 Travis Wright: didn't like Van Halen and so sorry, you know, they 990 00:48:23,540 --> 00:48:26,120 Travis Wright: didn't get signed, but then later they got signed. And 991 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,070 Travis Wright: their whole album, I mean, Hail on one is just spectacular. 992 00:48:29,070 --> 00:48:32,210 Travis Wright: If you've never heard it before, put it on Spotify 993 00:48:32,210 --> 00:48:34,940 Travis Wright: or on on your YouTube, put your headphones on and 994 00:48:34,940 --> 00:48:37,940 Travis Wright: just listen to that album for the first time. It'll 995 00:48:37,940 --> 00:48:40,040 Travis Wright: blow you away. It's such a great debut album. 996 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:45,350 Joel Comm: Eddie Van Halen. Rest in peace. You are officially unchained.