Speaker 1: Yes, good morning. I hope you're going well wherever you are.
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Speaker 1: today and we're a talkback radio station and a talkback program.
Speaker 1: The phone lines are well and truly open one double three,
Speaker 1: eight to eighty two. Thanks to Mills and Karl and
Speaker 1: team for The Bricky Show today. A bit of breaking
Speaker 1: news for you, if I may, that the City of
Speaker 1: Perth are picking up the purple scooters as we speak.
Speaker 1: The City of Perth are driving around in trucks and
Speaker 1: they're picking up the scooters as we speak. We believe
Speaker 1: the decision was made last night to pull the Escooter
Speaker 1: Higher program. The purple scooters are being loaded on trucks
Speaker 1: as we speak and are being removed. The decision was
Speaker 1: made last night. We understand that the contractor that supplies
Speaker 1: the scooters is Beam b E a M. And they're
Speaker 1: picking up the e scooters as we speak. So on
Speaker 1: the back of the fatality last Saturday night, we're allegedly
Speaker 1: a twenty four just turned twenty five year old english woman,
Speaker 1: a tourist knocked over a fellow on the corner of
Speaker 1: King and Murray and he passed away after hitting his head.
Speaker 1: The east scooters are being picked up. So we spoke
Speaker 1: about this yesterday on the program and we speculated yesterday
Speaker 1: that this might potentially happen given the I guess the criteria,
Speaker 1: the regulations around hiring a scooter. They're pretty lax and
Speaker 1: you can get on and you don't get breath lies
Speaker 1: when you get on one. You don't you have to
Speaker 1: take a picture of yourself putting a helmet on, but
Speaker 1: you don't necessarily need to wear them. So this has
Speaker 1: ramifications for the high scooter kaper. What if City of
Speaker 1: Perth are removing their higher scooters they're being scooters? What
Speaker 1: will city the Sterling do? What will Bustleton do, What
Speaker 1: will Rockingham do? Albony Bumbrey, Espirants, Geraldton and the like.
Speaker 1: This incident in the city last Saturday has implications for
Speaker 1: all of the local government areas. We're want to talk
Speaker 1: to Bruce Reynolds, the Perth Deputy Lord Mayor about this
Speaker 1: in just a moment on the program, but we can
Speaker 1: tell you here. As of ten nine past nine, the
Speaker 1: City of Perth trucks are picking up the purple scooters
Speaker 1: and taking them away. Now we've got a big rank
Speaker 1: of the purple scooters out the front of six PR
Speaker 1: at one sixty nine Hay Street. They're still out there,
Speaker 1: but we do have a vision of the trucks getting
Speaker 1: around and picking up the scooters. So we'll cover that
Speaker 1: in just a moment on the program. I do have
Speaker 1: a yes no question for you which will bring you
Speaker 1: in just a moment. This website, this pet registration website,
Speaker 1: so like it's a ten million dollar contract and it
Speaker 1: seems to have just disappeared. So this is so that
Speaker 1: all the local government councils can talk to each other
Speaker 1: in terms of pet, dog and cat registration and sterilizations
Speaker 1: at the like. It obviously ties in the vet rooms
Speaker 1: around the place as well, but it seems to have
Speaker 1: fallen over and disappeared without a trace, So we'll look
Speaker 1: at that in a sect. As you know, I'm from
Speaker 1: a local government background. I'm always happy to defend councils,
Speaker 1: pretty hard to defend a number of our metro councils
Speaker 1: on them out of money. They've been spending with their
Speaker 1: credit cards on food and entertainment. We'll talk to Caroline Spencer,
Speaker 1: the all powerful, Formidable Order to General in just a
Speaker 1: moment on the program. I've got a yes no question
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 2: Right, let's clear this up once and for all.
Speaker 1: Given what we saw yesterday and what we heard yesterday,
Speaker 1: are you worried that the courts are handing out light sentences? Yes?
Speaker 1: Or no? Are you worried that the courts are handing
Speaker 1: out light sentences? We heard yesterday are during the middle
Speaker 1: of our show that three years and two months is
Speaker 1: the sentence for the miner that crashed the car and
Speaker 1: killed Daniel and Bianca Campo's son Nick a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago. Three years and two months, so he'll this
Speaker 1: miner could potentially be out. He served six months already,
Speaker 1: he could be potentially about walking around free when he's
Speaker 1: only nineteen years of age. So now this was heard
Speaker 1: in the children's court, given the defendants age, and the
Speaker 1: President Hilton Quail ultimately passed the sentence. We are going
Speaker 1: to talk to John Hammond, the esteemed defense lawyer, about
Speaker 1: the process behind the sentencing. What John thinks about it.
Speaker 1: We've seen an early please We've seen remorse, we've seen
Speaker 1: surrendering bail and good legal work can significantly reduce sentences.
Speaker 1: So the proper judicial process has been applied. I wonder
Speaker 1: what you think. Are you worried that the courts are
Speaker 1: handing out light sentences? One zero, four, eight seven, trip
Speaker 1: nine eight eighty two is the is the number if
Speaker 1: you'd like to get in touch with us. This was
Speaker 1: Bianke Campo outside court yesterday.
Speaker 3: We are as a family quite disappointed with the sentence.
Speaker 3: We don't feel that it was enough and I really
Speaker 3: don't think it's set. It's a very good example for
Speaker 3: young people. Nothing of no sentence, obviously will bring our
Speaker 3: knit back. It's something that we have to live with
Speaker 3: every day for the rest of our lives. We've been
Speaker 3: quite broken.
Speaker 4: By that.
Speaker 3: Nick was a really good kid and he was very
Speaker 3: much loved by all of us. I just don't know
Speaker 3: what else to say. Just I just I know other
Speaker 3: families are going to go through this at some you know,
Speaker 3: in the future, we're not the only ones. But please,
Speaker 3: just please just make sure your kids, you know, they
Speaker 3: overdo the right thing when they get into cars, because
Speaker 3: this is like a pain that it's unbearable. It really is,
Speaker 3: and it's something that no one could understand until you've
Speaker 3: actually had to live it.
Speaker 2: And I really feel for people who have to go
Speaker 2: through this.
Speaker 1: Pian Campo yesterday outsaw, gut wrenching, isn't it? Can't imagine
Speaker 1: or couldn't imagine anything worse? Could you? So this has
Speaker 1: has had a ripple effect for all concerned, for that
Speaker 1: community of young people, young young guys, young girls, and
Speaker 1: it's thinking about it today, I think it's the sentence
Speaker 1: that is causing even more consternation, anxiety and grief. So yes,
Speaker 1: the grieving process is reunited for everybody. And you can
Speaker 1: hear the hear the emotion in Bianker Campo's voice. There
Speaker 1: is the are you concerned about light sentences? Yes or no?
Speaker 1: You've got at this stage. We've got probably about half
Speaker 1: a dozen yeses and no nos at the moment. And
Speaker 1: then let us know why and if you can cite
Speaker 1: any examples one double three, ay two.
Speaker 5: Good a Chris, Yeah, Simon, you're mentioning the purple beams
Speaker 5: goo goods.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 5: Five minutes ago, I was just up in the street,
Speaker 5: just past you, the other side of it, out street,
Speaker 5: and there was a truck loading up all your orange
Speaker 5: neuron ones.
Speaker 1: Okay, so the orange orange ones are going to Chris.
Speaker 1: I just your phone dropped out, did you say Hay.
Speaker 5: Street, Yeah, Hay Street just up for you over the
Speaker 5: other side of Bennet Street there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's the orange ones and the purple ones as well. Hey, Chris,
Speaker 1: that's across the board.
Speaker 5: Getting rid of a lot, thank god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, cheers Chris, Thank you mate, Thanks for
Speaker 1: reporting in. If you do see anything you think your
Speaker 1: fellow six VUR listeners would be interested in, give us
Speaker 1: a call one double three eight to eighty two. The
Speaker 1: Bruce Reynolds is the Deputy Lord Mayor of the City
Speaker 1: of Perth and joins you now, Bruce, thanks for your time.
Speaker 1: Mary Simon, Yeah, I'm well, thank you. Is that the
Speaker 1: case Orange and purples there going on trucks as we speak?
Speaker 6: Yeah, correct, mate, Both both service providers have been suspended
Speaker 6: while we go through this phase of assisting with the
Speaker 6: authorities with all the collection of data and providing of
Speaker 6: all information that we can to assist in the ongoing investigation.
Speaker 7: Investigation.
Speaker 1: So, Bruce, did you meet last night, did have a
Speaker 1: special meeting with counsel on this and obviously it comes
Speaker 1: off the back of what happened last Saturday.
Speaker 6: Yeah, correct, So as you can imagine, since Saturday through
Speaker 6: till Tuesday afternoon, when the information came through around the
Speaker 6: actual fatality, we've had to act in a responsible and
Speaker 6: respectful manner. So we called a special meeting where the
Speaker 6: counselors were able to come together. Information was provided to
Speaker 6: US Fire administration and the decision was made to suspend
Speaker 6: the scooters whilst we go through this phase of assisting
Speaker 6: with the authorities in the investigation.
Speaker 1: So suspended at this stage, but not necessarily a permanent
Speaker 1: Did you give any thoughts to somehow trying to police
Speaker 1: the use of scooters better or is it just easier
Speaker 1: at this stage to take them take them off the road.
Speaker 6: At this stage, certainly, to be respectful to the families involved,
Speaker 6: we think that there's more, more and more an absolute
Speaker 6: appropriate measure and and then we'll go. You know, we
Speaker 6: are fully committed to assisting with the investigation. Once we've
Speaker 6: collected all the data, the next phase of decision making
Speaker 6: will obviously come into play.
Speaker 1: We need to get this right, Bruce. What happens with
Speaker 1: the contract? Is there any not sunset clauses the wrong word.
Speaker 1: But is there any clause where you can suspend supply
Speaker 1: because Beam are in all those other major senses that
Speaker 1: I mentioned, you know, not Calgol anymore, but Bustled and Bumbrie, Rockingham,
Speaker 1: Albany and the Lie. Pretty much everyone uses Beam and
Speaker 1: I already imagine they'll be watching what you guys do
Speaker 1: fairly seriously. But how does the how does the pulling
Speaker 1: of the contract work?
Speaker 6: Yeah, so there is without having the contract in front
Speaker 6: of me, there are clauses in the contract around suspension,
Speaker 6: and an incident of this of this type would obviously
Speaker 6: be be one of those one of those clauses.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, Bruce, Well thanks for talking to us.
Speaker 1: Is it just a one day operation to get rid
Speaker 1: of them? And how many purple ones and how many
Speaker 1: orange ones are there?
Speaker 6: Off the top of your head, Yeah, there's around two
Speaker 6: hundred and fifty of each, so five hundred in total.
Speaker 6: The notification has obviously been sent out, and as your
Speaker 6: caller mentioned, of their scooter companies are already in an
Speaker 6: collection of those scooters.
Speaker 7: So yeah, so that's that's where that is.
Speaker 6: We've imagined, so that it's probably going to be forty
Speaker 6: eight hours before they're all collected off the streets, but
Speaker 6: from twelve o'clock they will be disabled, so even the
Speaker 6: ones that are on the streets they won't be used.
Speaker 6: But also, you know, mate, this is a tragedy at
Speaker 6: all levels. So so our thoughts go out to everyone
Speaker 6: associated with the families and especially the fun the farm family,
Speaker 6: and they're extended family and friends.
Speaker 7: It's a it's a tragedy.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is, Bruce, thank you very much for talking
Speaker 1: to us. Really appreciate your time.
Speaker 7: Thank you, Simon.
Speaker 1: See mate, Bruce Reynolds the Deputy Lord Mayor of the
Speaker 1: City of Perth. So that's a quick action. I think
Speaker 1: it was arrived at last night. So it's actually the
Speaker 1: scooter company, not the City of per trucks that are
Speaker 1: picking them up. The Purple Ones and the Orange Ones
Speaker 1: two separate companies, I think. Chris said Neuron is the
Speaker 1: name of the company that supplies the Orange Ones. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know that for sure. I know the Purple
Speaker 1: Ones are Beam. I'm pretty sure this has ramifications for
Speaker 1: EA scooters across the state, doesn't it. Gero's got em,
Speaker 1: Bumbery's got the Frio's got them. Just about all the
Speaker 1: big cities that involve tourism. You know, it seemed like
Speaker 1: a good idea at the time, didn't it. And it's
Speaker 1: taken one one fairly serious fatality in the city involving
Speaker 1: and you know she'll have her day in court, so
Speaker 1: we'll hear some more details there. But allegedly involved alcohol,
Speaker 1: Allegedly involved a day drinking at the pub, doing excessive
Speaker 1: speed on a footpath. Allegedly all of that will come out.
Speaker 1: So Neuron Mobility and Beam are the two companies what
Speaker 1: I reckon listeners nineteen minutes past nine. We're asking the
Speaker 1: question today as well is sentencing. Are you concerned about
Speaker 1: sentencing in general given what we heard yesterday with the
Speaker 1: sentencing of the young driver, the minor involved in the
Speaker 1: death of Nick Campo. The yes is eleven and the
Speaker 1: nose zero. We're going to speak to John Hammond in
Speaker 1: just a moment about the sentencing, the process of the
Speaker 1: sentencing from the court case yesterday in the children's court.
Speaker 1: Stay listening, Thanks for your thoughts. And we have had
Speaker 1: some visions sent to us and some photos sent to
Speaker 1: us of a ferry sinking in a Bali yesterday, which
Speaker 1: involves some Western Australians and some West Astralian families and kids.
Speaker 1: So it's off nus Lomboggan and it involves a very
Speaker 1: near a place called Mushroom Bay. So we are trying
Speaker 1: to talk to From what we can see, there have
Speaker 1: been no injuries or fatalities. That's our early mail. But
Speaker 1: there was a ferry turnover and sink yesterday in oft
Speaker 1: Loose Nusi Lomboggan in Mushroom Basse, So try and bring
Speaker 1: you some more details of that in just a moment.
Speaker 1: What do you think, folks the East scooters are off
Speaker 1: the street in Perth are being picked up by the
Speaker 1: companies in just just as we speak, rayces scooter. How's
Speaker 1: a good idea? At the time, other cities were ditching
Speaker 1: them as Perth was introducing them. More like a lapse
Speaker 1: in due diligence to me, Ray, you could be right.
Speaker 1: That's just my thoughts. I thought, hey, wow, you can
Speaker 1: hire a scooter does twenty k's now down at Scarborough
Speaker 1: and go for spin. Never ever thought it would result
Speaker 1: in a fatality. Ray, I've got to be honest. So
Speaker 1: that's my thoughts, Ray, not necessarily anybody else's. Thanks for
Speaker 1: weighing in ray. Good on you. We are taking your
Speaker 1: thoughts today. Is the Are you concerned with sentencing in general,
Speaker 1: given that we saw with the sentencing yesterday over the
Speaker 1: miner that crashed a car that resulted in the death
Speaker 1: of Nick Campo. John Hammond is a criminal lawyer, joins
Speaker 1: us now today, John, Hi, John, can you hear me?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 9: Can you hear me?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Got you mate? You thanks for talking to us today.
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't mind asking about the about the process
Speaker 1: betime the sentencing, bearing in mind this is was in
Speaker 1: the Children's Court, a very high profile case early please
Speaker 1: remorse surrendering bail and I guess some good legal work, John.
Speaker 1: But that's how the system works, isn't it.
Speaker 8: It is how the system works. But I would ask
Speaker 8: people to hold the faith if I can say that,
Speaker 8: because I believe, with a great respect to the Children's
Speaker 8: Court President Hilton Quayle, that he actually he got the
Speaker 8: decision right. This young bloke seventeen's going to go to
Speaker 8: jail for three years and two months. And when that
Speaker 8: sentence was passed, the Children's Court President took into account
Speaker 8: everything that happened on that night and all the families
Speaker 8: that were involved and the circumstances of the crash. Now,
Speaker 8: I think it's important to bear in mind that all
Speaker 8: of the people in that car, according to witnesses, were
Speaker 8: amped up, They were speeding, they were told what one
Speaker 8: passenger told the driver who's now going to jail, to
Speaker 8: gun it all the way to the nightclub. Now, I
Speaker 8: think everyone that was in that car has got to
Speaker 8: take responsibility for what happened, not just the driver.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. So yeah, okay, And it's you, you've you've
Speaker 1: been you know in court. With these situations, you're evolving
Speaker 1: young people in families. John, The ripple effect is is massive,
Speaker 1: isn't it.
Speaker 8: The the it is, it is, it's it's and it's horrendous. Look,
Speaker 8: I feel really badly for the parents of Nick Campo.
Speaker 8: To see someone so young get, you know, get killed
Speaker 8: in these circumstances is just appalling. But Simon, it's all
Speaker 8: part of a culture, I think too. And it seems
Speaker 8: to be money prevalent in young men who think that
Speaker 8: they are indestructible. When they get behind a wheel and
Speaker 8: they get excited, they all get together and they're racing
Speaker 8: off to a nightclub. Well, and they're egging each other
Speaker 8: on Simon. That's the point. He was being urged to
Speaker 8: go faster. So the blame lies fairly and squarely on
Speaker 8: all of those who were in the car from a
Speaker 8: moral point of view.
Speaker 1: All right, So as far as the system goes, John,
Speaker 1: and you are a man of an experienced lawyer but
Speaker 1: also a man of humanity. You think Hilton Quail has
Speaker 1: looked at all the mitigating circumstances, what happened on the night,
Speaker 1: and what was in front of him, and the legal work,
Speaker 1: and that is the right sentence.
Speaker 8: I think it's right, Yes, with great respect to the President.
Speaker 8: But the second thing I think it's really important is
Speaker 8: that the President noted the remorse shown by the PA
Speaker 8: plate driver. Hey, Janiet, the President believed that the PA
Speaker 8: plate driver was really sorry about what had happened. And look,
Speaker 8: I I defy any young bloke in the community to
Speaker 8: put the hand up and say I've never done anything
Speaker 8: stupid behind the wheel. When I was seven, nineteen twenty,
Speaker 8: that might be one or two putting their hand up
Speaker 8: and saying I've done something stupid.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and I'd put myself in that category. John,
Speaker 1: So I'll stick my hand up, John, thank you. Can
Speaker 1: I one final one, and I'm pressing a bit here.
Speaker 1: Is is showing remorse a legal tactic or a characteristic
Speaker 1: of a person?
Speaker 8: I don't like to see it as a legal tactic.
Speaker 8: The judges and magistrates are various working out whether someone
Speaker 8: is generally sorry for what they've done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right.
Speaker 8: They rely on psychiatric ports the work, so it's not
Speaker 8: easy to just stand up there and say it. That's
Speaker 8: not enough. You've got to demonstrate a whole lot more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, John, thanks for talking to us today.
Speaker 8: Yeah, thanks, Simon.
Speaker 1: Cheers. John Hammond, criminal lawyer, defense lawyer. So John, we'll
Speaker 1: put John in the in the one in the no columnies.
Speaker 1: Are you concerned with sentencing being too lean in this
Speaker 1: particular case? Said? Nose are two including John's, and yeses
Speaker 1: are nineteen. So I'll get to some of your correspondents
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: Terry.
Speaker 1: Gooday, Terry, Yes, sentence is a way too lean. And
Speaker 1: please remember a large number of judges are formal criminal
Speaker 1: defense lawyers. So what else do you expect? Not a
Speaker 1: bad point, Terry, This one here from Paris Parry. It's
Speaker 1: a yes from me. I believe there should be a
Speaker 1: sentence handed down to none of this parole. So if
Speaker 1: you get out ten years, Joe, you do the ten years,
Speaker 1: not adding five. Just a thought, thanks Paris. What is
Speaker 1: incarceration about. It's about punishment, rehabilitation and removing danger from society.
Speaker 1: One double three eight two is the is the phone
Speaker 1: number today? On scooters? John raised an interesting point, Get
Speaker 1: a John, what a nanny state we are? How many
Speaker 1: trips that have helped people get around on these high scooters?
Speaker 1: We get one bad accident, we get a knee jerk reaction.
Speaker 1: How many accents have they been with drunk drivers in
Speaker 1: higher cars that no one wants to ban them? Says John? John.
Speaker 1: Thank you, that's a really interesting one. And Bruce Reynolds
Speaker 1: was pretty upfront. He said it's also out of respect
Speaker 1: to a grieving family. He said that I think three times, Bruce,
Speaker 1: So that's obviously a factor for them. For the city
Speaker 1: of Perth, the scooters have been removed. I mean the
Speaker 1: other one, John on this is me being a little cynical.
Speaker 1: The councilors might not be able to face the potential
Speaker 1: compensation costs and insurance costs. So and a lot of
Speaker 1: our listeners have pointed out that Albany has withdrawn its
Speaker 1: high scooters. So thanks to John and others who've let
Speaker 1: us know about that. But that's what happens now in
Speaker 1: the city of Stirling. What does Mark Erwin do, What
Speaker 1: does deb Hamlin do in Rockingham? What does Phil Crohen
Speaker 1: do in Bustleton? What does the Geraldton mayor do? What
Speaker 1: do they do with I think how goolies pulled their
Speaker 1: highest scooters as well, so you know they make a
Speaker 1: bit of dough for the councils and they see as
Speaker 1: I said earlier, and this is genuine, it seemed like
Speaker 1: a nice idea. Get on a scooter, goarden down Riverside Drive,
Speaker 1: garden down West Coast Highway, Scarborough, have a little roll
Speaker 1: along the foreshore and Rockingham. But now we've had a
Speaker 1: fatality allegedly involving heavy drinking. So the City of Perth
Speaker 1: for picking up the scooters as we as we speak,
Speaker 1: but up to hear from you, I'm Simon Beaumont. Are
Speaker 1: you concerned with light sentencing the yester twenty five and
Speaker 1: the nose of four back in a moment.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for listening in Today we are asking the
Speaker 1: question do you think are you concerned about senencing in general?
Speaker 1: Out of the WA judicial system the Children's Court district
Speaker 1: magistrates caught all of that. Given what we saw yesterday
Speaker 1: with the sentencing over the miner that crashed his vehic
Speaker 1: and which resulted in the death of young Nick Campo,
Speaker 1: the yeses are thirty one and the nose are six.
Speaker 1: Shane says he's a no. I agree hundred percent with everything.
Speaker 1: John Hammond just said. Sentence was in line with all
Speaker 1: the details from events leading up to that most fatal
Speaker 1: moment and the young man lost his best mate Judu's driving.
Speaker 1: He admitted guilt and even denied his own bail. Thank you, Sean.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Patrick says a virus a mess. It
Speaker 1: won't say the sentence in post and the driver and
Speaker 1: the Nick Campo case was too leaning, as I might
Speaker 1: get too philosophical. However, I think the judicial system is
Speaker 1: generally pathetic. I cite the case of the thug the
Speaker 1: walk free after assaulting a cop outside Opter stadium makes
Speaker 1: my blood boil. And quite a few people are now
Speaker 1: pushing this argument into the notion of privately owned scooters,
Speaker 1: the ones where we've seen four fatalities this year already.
Speaker 1: And these things do zoom around on our roads and
Speaker 1: on our cycle ways, and they are often adjusted so
Speaker 1: they can go even faster. But this has ramifications this decision.
Speaker 1: As I sit here talking to you, the City Perth
Speaker 1: have asked the scooter companies to pick up the orange
Speaker 1: Neuron scooters and the purple beamscooters. I think I've got
Speaker 1: the color schemes right there. And of course this is
Speaker 1: has ramifications for other councils that run high scooters. What
Speaker 1: about this story? Hasty has a story in WA Today
Speaker 1: on the website WA Today. As you know, the new
Speaker 1: legislation around puppy farming laws came into effect last week
Speaker 1: whereby you can't buy a pet from a pet shop
Speaker 1: unless it's a rescue pet a rescue dog, and you
Speaker 1: need to buy from a registered dealer, so that has
Speaker 1: significantly changed the landscape. In addition to which part of
Speaker 1: this legislation meant that the one hundred and thirty nine
Speaker 1: West Australian Councils could be part of a registration system
Speaker 1: where dogs and cats could be registered, their sterilization status
Speaker 1: could be registered, and this was all part of the
Speaker 1: new laws coming in. Now it looks like the nine
Speaker 1: point eight million dollar contract to build software for that
Speaker 1: centralized pet registration website has fallen over. It seems to
Speaker 1: have disappeared altogether. Currely war is the opposition spokesook person
Speaker 1: for Local government. Get a curly Simon Beaumont.
Speaker 11: How are you good morning, Simon?
Speaker 1: What's happened here? Do you think?
Speaker 12: Well?
Speaker 13: Last week the Minister did stand in Parliament and made
Speaker 13: the announcement that the contract for the nine point eight
Speaker 13: million dollar central registration system that underpins the puppy farming
Speaker 13: legislation was basically torn up and there has been no
Speaker 13: indication of a clear pathway forward as to when a
Speaker 13: new contract may be issued. And we have to remember
Speaker 13: this system underpins the legislation. So our question is how
Speaker 13: much of taxpayers money has already been spent and when
Speaker 13: can we when can we look forward to seeing a
Speaker 13: new contract being issued to ensure that this particular system
Speaker 13: becomes a reality, because local governments have been waiting a
Speaker 13: number of years for this to come into play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, as you say, it's the administration part of
Speaker 1: the whole of the law changes the entirety of them.
Speaker 1: The company is called Seisma, So Seisma, who developed software,
Speaker 1: and the government have mutually agreed to cease this. We
Speaker 1: were able to get more information out of the out
Speaker 1: of Minister Hannah Beasley, so we had.
Speaker 13: A briefing with Hannah late last week. Most of what
Speaker 13: that contract contained is commercial in confidence, and I respect that,
Speaker 13: but it was mutual. Yes, I believe that, and I
Speaker 13: do also believe that the work that's been done today.
Speaker 14: Won't be lost.
Speaker 13: But that still doesn't give surety to the local governments
Speaker 13: and that have been anticipating this system coming online for
Speaker 13: many years.
Speaker 12: This legislation was passed.
Speaker 13: In twenty twenty one, so we're now in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 13: Local governments have been looking forward to a centralized registration
Speaker 13: system actually put time and ratepayers money into getting their
Speaker 13: data ready in their own individual systems to be migrated
Speaker 13: into this new system and now it's come to a
Speaker 13: halt and there's no clear pathway forward.
Speaker 1: Holding a curly war Opposition spokesperson for Local Government Matters curely,
Speaker 1: do you know off the top of your head if
Speaker 1: we know about the one hundred and thirty nine councils
Speaker 1: want this and need this to enact the laws properly
Speaker 1: do veterinary rooms to vet surgeons who also monitor the
Speaker 1: health status of dogs and cats and also their sterilization status.
Speaker 1: Did you know if if they're part of this portal,
Speaker 1: there'd be a number.
Speaker 13: Of stakeholders that would be able to access into this
Speaker 13: particular portal. That's my understanding, but I guess from a
Speaker 13: registration point of view, and this is what we're talking
Speaker 13: about when it comes to puppy farming, making sure that
Speaker 13: when you go to buy a pet a puppy, that
Speaker 13: you're buying it from a registered, an accredited breeder or
Speaker 13: a from an adoption shelter. So those types of organizations
Speaker 13: would definitely be having access into those into this portal.
Speaker 13: But at this point there is no portal and we
Speaker 13: have to we can't forget simon that this government hasn't
Speaker 13: delivered on other portals. So is this is this another
Speaker 13: case of that? That's the question. Also, you know we've
Speaker 13: had debarcers with the firearms portal and the nurses registration
Speaker 13: portal in the.
Speaker 4: Past, and.
Speaker 13: I guess where are we going with this one? Maybe
Speaker 13: maybe maybe holding.
Speaker 15: It Yeah, and arguably it's a bit more time to
Speaker 15: get it right.
Speaker 1: Yeah maybe yeah, and arguably the state election process as well.
Speaker 1: With Purcell Kelly, Hey, curly, thank you for talking to
Speaker 1: us today. We will stay on it. And thanks to
Speaker 1: Hamish Hasty for raising the issue. You're you. You talk
Speaker 1: on matters of local government and you're a long term
Speaker 1: local government of yourself. We're talking to Caroline Spencer after
Speaker 1: ten o'clock. She's got she's the Order to General. There's
Speaker 1: the amount of money some of these Metro councils are
Speaker 1: spending on entertainment past the pub test for you.
Speaker 14: Look, I went to.
Speaker 13: The briefing last week on the tabling of that particular report, Simon,
Speaker 13: and yes I do come from local government. I am
Speaker 13: a new member for Geraldson, but previous to that was
Speaker 13: at the Sharp Chapman Valley, both as an elected member
Speaker 13: and as an officer. So in this current climate, economic climate,
Speaker 13: any money public person money is under scrutiny and I'm
Speaker 13: not necessarily sure that this does pass the pub test,
Speaker 13: and that's what that report says. So best wishes in
Speaker 13: talking to Carolin.
Speaker 16: I'm sure she can.
Speaker 13: Give you some more insight into her findings around that report.
Speaker 1: It's interesting that it looks like there's been no breach
Speaker 1: of process, but I haven't heard Caroline talk about the
Speaker 1: pub test before, so yeah, we'll talk to her after
Speaker 1: ten o clock. The optics are interesting, Kurly, thank you
Speaker 1: very much for talking to us today.
Speaker 17: Thanks Simon war.
Speaker 1: Opposition spokesperson for local government. Yes, we'll talk to Caroline Spencer.
Speaker 1: The West has the story today. We had heard that
Speaker 1: the report was going to be handed down and there's
Speaker 1: a number of Perth Metro councils that are spending using
Speaker 1: credit cards to buy food and drink for functions, events,
Speaker 1: meetings and the like. It's probably money that is described
Speaker 1: in budget. We'll talk to Caroline Spencer after ten. I
Speaker 1: will always stick up for local government, you know that,
Speaker 1: but hard to stick up for this one. Pretty hard
Speaker 1: to stick up for this one. It's not a good look.
Speaker 1: And as Curly agrees with Caroline, Spencer, it's you know,
Speaker 1: we're in the middle of the cost of living issue.
Speaker 1: I don't know that it Nessie makes rates go up.
Speaker 1: This spending and councils will hold functions with community groups,
Speaker 1: hold meetings, run events. I'll always do that. How much
Speaker 1: they spend on it. I suppose we'll talk about that
Speaker 1: after ten o'clock today. It's eighteen minutes to ten. Thanks
Speaker 1: for your company today. Are you concerned, listeners? Are you
Speaker 1: concerned our yes no poll today about sentencing? Is it
Speaker 1: too lenient to give them? What we heard yesterday? Yes,
Speaker 1: is a forty one. Well we and the nose of
Speaker 1: nine back in a moment. Thanks for listening. In today
Speaker 1: we will be speaking to Caroline Spencer, the all powerful,
Speaker 1: all seeing, formidable order to general after ten today one
Speaker 1: double three, eight to eighty two. I've heard on this
Speaker 1: station and in the job that I do, I heard
Speaker 1: the term woke being thrown around a fair bit, but
Speaker 1: I've never ever heard it woke being used in reference
Speaker 1: to a inanimate object, the scooter. Dave says, these scooters
Speaker 1: are a stupid woke invention. Wow, we Dave. That's a
Speaker 1: stretch and should be banned. The councilors took them up
Speaker 1: blindly with no thought of what could go wrong. If
Speaker 1: you want to save the world, walk or ride a
Speaker 1: ride a bike. Dave Channel and Carl Langdon there scooters
Speaker 1: a woke invention. I think they're pretty cool. Scooters are
Speaker 1: they look? They are very much in the cross here
Speaker 1: is given the fatality of Saturday night. There's absolutely no
Speaker 1: doubt about it. We picked it yesterday that these councils
Speaker 1: will have to make a decision. All of the count Gelton, sorry,
Speaker 1: Calgooley and Albany have removed the scooters. There are scooters
Speaker 1: around the world that have been you know, cities around
Speaker 1: the world that have removed the scooters. I do get that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe that part of it. You know, who would have
Speaker 1: thought that someone would get drunk and hop on a
Speaker 1: scooter and kill someone? I certainly didn't didn't think they
Speaker 1: went fast enough, But there you go. Andrew from Duncraig's
Speaker 1: has Hannah Beezley is busy working on the racetrack in
Speaker 1: her backyard, says Andrew. Thank you, Andrew. Troy from colleague
Speaker 1: so this pub test is after one pint or ten pints,
Speaker 1: Thanks Troy. One double three a eighty two Andy from Dianallagada. Andy,
Speaker 1: so many scooters around the city and local council are
Speaker 1: unused and a lot they've very dumped at every corner.
Speaker 1: It's very unsightly. They see how they can be making
Speaker 1: too much or a profit for the councils and businesses involved.
Speaker 1: If this tragic incident has provided clause for councils to
Speaker 1: back out of their contracts, they should think seriously about
Speaker 1: taking it. Thank you, Andy, appreciate it. Mate. You know
Speaker 1: there's bike and scooter high places around the joint as well,
Speaker 1: and I and I guess in those cases you need
Speaker 1: to hire the scooter off a person, right, so the
Speaker 1: scooter hiring person will make an assessment as to whether
Speaker 1: that person doing the hiring is fit and proper and sober.
Speaker 1: One double three eight at D two. Good day, Chris, Yes, Simon,
Speaker 1: good morning, How are you good morning? Well? Thanks, yeah,
Speaker 1: good good.
Speaker 18: I just wasn't exactly my point, but just one thing
Speaker 18: I did think about. I think I've heard Basil say
Speaker 18: yesterday about that you have to have a helmet on
Speaker 18: to where you have to wear the helmet.
Speaker 19: Before you can ride those scooters.
Speaker 18: Yep, one hundred percent don't. I work in the city.
Speaker 18: I see it around the city all the time. Two ups,
Speaker 18: no helmets. You look at them and you go, mind
Speaker 18: if they've got a credit card, you know what I mean, youngish,
Speaker 18: very younger, younger brigade. But anyway, that wasn't my thought.
Speaker 1: My client, so just very quickly though, I know they
Speaker 1: are good points you. I think you can, you know,
Speaker 1: you take the helmet, I out of the thing, and
Speaker 1: I think in some case you take a photo or
Speaker 1: present a photo and away you go. But you can
Speaker 1: take the helmet off. I don't know if you can
Speaker 1: hire them without without a credit card though, Chris, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if you can. I stay corrected if that's
Speaker 1: the case, but yeah, keep going mate.
Speaker 18: Yeah yeah, So what about insurance?
Speaker 20: As you know, I ride a pushy a lot.
Speaker 18: I'm out here now dodging magpies, although it's not magpie season.
Speaker 20: But they're always about.
Speaker 9: Insurance.
Speaker 18: I've got my own. I don't pay rego, So for
Speaker 18: all the haters, don't hate me for riding my bike.
Speaker 18: While I'm riding my bike, I'm not riding my car.
Speaker 18: But I pay my own insurance premium every year while
Speaker 18: I'm on my bike. And I'm covered for salary, continuance
Speaker 18: and any damage that may occur from an incident accident,
Speaker 18: if I hit someone, I know, if I hit a
Speaker 18: car or a car hits me, I'm covered. And it
Speaker 18: doesn't cost a hell of a lot.
Speaker 20: So the private scooters.
Speaker 18: What they don't have to have any I don't.
Speaker 20: Have to have this as a cyclist either, but I
Speaker 20: choose to because.
Speaker 18: I'm smart, you know, because I'm on the road a lot,
Speaker 18: just wondering whether it should be a thing.
Speaker 1: Really good, really good point, mate, Thank you. So you
Speaker 1: need to be over sixteen to ride an e scooter,
Speaker 1: that's my understanding from what we heard from Darren Sivwright
Speaker 1: Copper who joined us on Tuesday. Thanks Chris. That yeah,
Speaker 1: so do And it's a personal choice. Does someone over
Speaker 1: sixteen through to adulthood who's riding an e scooter say
Speaker 1: it's properly governed to twenty five k's? Now are you
Speaker 1: taking out insurance? The notion of whether bike rider should
Speaker 1: pay a license fee is always alive and kicking. And
Speaker 1: I'm a cyclist and I don't mind that notion, you know,
Speaker 1: paying your way for the cycle ways. People who ride
Speaker 1: bikes generally in the main. There are some bad ones,
Speaker 1: but generally in the main are doing it for health
Speaker 1: and fitness reasons as well as commuting reasons and taking
Speaker 1: traffic off the roads. There's a lot of positives in
Speaker 1: what cyclists do. Not that not that'ss ever necessarily recognize that,
Speaker 1: but over the years they seems to different presenters.
Speaker 7: Give Leslie, Hi, Hi, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 16: I just thought your listeners might be interested. I'm not
Speaker 16: normally a shopper. I'm very fortunate my lovely husband does
Speaker 16: all the shopping. But yesterday we went to a wooly
Speaker 16: store and I found it really difficult to get around.
Speaker 16: You couldn't get in the eye is, you couldn't get
Speaker 16: in the freezers. Lots of people were getting a bit
Speaker 16: angsty about it. And I've found out when I got
Speaker 16: to the till that they've cut out the nightfill, so
Speaker 16: they're trying to do it in the daytime to save money,
Speaker 16: to advertise to tell us you know how much saving
Speaker 16: that we're actually getting. And I just thought it was
Speaker 16: incredible that they'd make a decision like that making it
Speaker 16: difficult for people to shop.
Speaker 1: What woolies are we talking? Leslie?
Speaker 16: A victim the big there's a big one where my
Speaker 16: husband goes regularly. Anyway, when I got to the till,
Speaker 16: a beautiful young lady at the till asked her. I said, well,
Speaker 16: what the heck's going on? She said, Oh, they've got
Speaker 16: really mean and they're cutting out the night Ville. And
Speaker 16: I said, well, what about all the students. She said,
Speaker 16: don't we about the students? What about us? My husband
Speaker 16: and myself. He works in the day and we were
Speaker 16: doing a tag team with the kids so that we
Speaker 16: didn't have to pay fees for childcare, and then I'd
Speaker 16: come in and do the nightfill at night. And that's
Speaker 16: how we got through, you know, half times with the
Speaker 16: mortgage and you know.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, yeah, I Lezzlie. At first, the world done.
Speaker 2: I'm not having to go to the shops. That's a
Speaker 2: good bit of set up from you. We'll see what
Speaker 2: our listeners think, Leslie. I haven't noticed it. I go
Speaker 2: to Wool's quite a bit. I've got one near me, thanks, Leslie.
Speaker 2: Is that the case Woolies people, Wooly shoppers?
Speaker 1: Is there stuff being left in the aisles on palletts
Speaker 1: because the night Fields disappeared? I see the Nightfield guys
Speaker 1: all the time and around. If you know, if you
Speaker 1: go to the shops late at nine o'clock and when
Speaker 1: I go to is in Warwick and the nightfield dudes
Speaker 1: start coming out before the shops close and there's a
Speaker 1: heap of them. But have you noticed that or is
Speaker 1: it just because Leslie hasn't been to this shop for
Speaker 1: a while? And a statement that can be attributed to Neurons.
Speaker 1: So Neuron Mobility they run some of the scooters in
Speaker 1: the city of Perth, Beam run the others. Beam runs
Speaker 1: scooters right through wa So let's just to be clear.
Speaker 1: These are higher scooters that local governments hire out on
Speaker 1: their patch. This is completely separate to privately owned scooters.
Speaker 1: Can be attributed to a Neuron spokesperson. We respect the
Speaker 1: City of perse decision to temporarily suspend the East Cooters
Speaker 1: service while the investigation into this tragic incident continues. We
Speaker 1: are working closely with the counciland w Police and our
Speaker 1: thoughts remain with the deceased family and loved ones during
Speaker 1: this difficult, incredibly difficult time Neuron goes on. We understand
Speaker 1: this temporary pause will affect many people who rely on
Speaker 1: the service to get around the city. And we appreciate
Speaker 1: their patients. We look forward to resuming safe operations as
Speaker 1: soon as we are able in close coordination with the city.
Speaker 1: That's a center a statement that has come out from
Speaker 1: neuron Mobility. Today. The scooters are being picked up by
Speaker 1: the scooter companies as we speak in the city of Perth.
Speaker 1: What will the other councils do? Get a bill?
Speaker 21: How are you good morning, Bowie, I'm pretty good mate yourself?
Speaker 1: Okay, well, thank you.
Speaker 21: Just a couple of instants in the news recently, you know,
Speaker 21: the young fellow that's been sentenced for the death of
Speaker 21: his friend, and this young tourist that's now in trouble
Speaker 21: for the manslaughter of alleged manslaughter of the fifty one
Speaker 21: year old mate that you know. I'm an ex prison office.
Speaker 21: I was fourteen years I've seen a lot of young
Speaker 21: guys that have come to jail for numerous offenses similar
Speaker 21: to these, and you know, in most of the cases
Speaker 21: the sendencing is very light. You know, there's no truth
Speaker 21: in sentencing. If they do the right thing, which most
Speaker 21: of them do, you know, they're out under you know,
Speaker 21: in half a sentence or less. Sometimes people that say that,
Speaker 21: you know longer sentences are under deterrent. I can assure
Speaker 21: you that they are. And you know, to say that
Speaker 21: a life is worth you know, three years out after
Speaker 21: half the time or whatever the case may be, really
Speaker 21: is an insult to the families of those who have
Speaker 21: lost loved ones. You know, it's something, it needs, something
Speaker 21: needs to be done. And I'm still a firm believer
Speaker 21: that if you, if, if if somebody was to get
Speaker 21: five or six or seven years for something like this,
Speaker 21: it would have a deterrent effect on other people that
Speaker 21: may find themselves in those positions.
Speaker 1: All right, mate, Okay, Bill, appreciate your thoughts. Thank you,
Speaker 1: no worry. Excuse me, Bill phoning in their high cherene.
Speaker 14: Hi phone, just to know it's not just happening in Woolworth.
Speaker 14: In relation to the night filled people not sort of
Speaker 14: being there as much as they used to be. The
Speaker 14: other day, I found myself in coals and it was
Speaker 14: the same thing. And now that I'm retired, I'm sort
Speaker 14: of at the shops at different times of day and
Speaker 14: i find I'm trying to have to get out of
Speaker 14: the way of the shop of the night, of the
Speaker 14: people filling the shells. They've got their big tolleys for
Speaker 14: the stacks of goods and I'm in the way. So
Speaker 14: it's all about the almighty dollar, I'm afraid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess so, Hey, Cheren, can I ask you?
Speaker 1: Is it is this? Coal's?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: Ida? Aldi?
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's coles, not so much Aldi. Generally wool is
Speaker 14: and coals Aldi don't seem Yeah.
Speaker 1: And don't know this Is it because they're selling out
Speaker 1: of stock during the day and need to replace it
Speaker 1: during the day or is it that they have done
Speaker 1: away with night fill?
Speaker 14: Don't get me started on this. All I notice is
Speaker 14: that they're Yeah, half the shells are empty with all
Speaker 14: the special stuff are gone because people are really watching
Speaker 14: their dollars and everyone's struggling with the cost of food.
Speaker 14: I've never even known what a cost of a liter
Speaker 14: of milk was until just recently. I just noticed that
Speaker 14: the shells are empty, weather specials are And what I
Speaker 14: have noticed in particular, and this is the thing that
Speaker 14: really irks me, excuse me, I've got a coke frogm
Speaker 14: my throat is that the biscuits and the lollies have
Speaker 14: always got two for ones and specials on all the
Speaker 14: junk food, not the healthy stuff.
Speaker 1: We never get a healthy stay or organic crush tomatoes
Speaker 1: and never half price? Are they sharing?
Speaker 8: Hey?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sreen, thank you. I'm up against the clock here,
Speaker 1: but I take your points so gapping in Cole's as well?
Speaker 1: Is it listeners because Coles and Willies are selling stock
Speaker 1: and need to reach plenge during the day or have
Speaker 1: they done away with Nightville? If you work in the
Speaker 1: capeart let me know. And lots of correspondence coming in
Speaker 1: on this. Do you a concerned about sentencing in general general?
Speaker 1: Given what we saw yesterday? Forty four yeses and nine
Speaker 1: knows well? We two and a half minutes to ten. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thanks for your company today here until one o'clock. Still
Speaker 1: to come on the show. Nick Marouchak talking legal matters
Speaker 1: from mki Leegal. That's after ten thirty and Mick Collis
Speaker 1: is in today. We will come back to this notion.
Speaker 1: Is Nightville our Nightville staff being has that process change
Speaker 1: so those staff being put to one side and the
Speaker 1: supermarkets are actually replenishing the shells during the day or
Speaker 1: is that just because they're selling stuff?
Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. Ten o'clock now what a song?
Speaker 1: Seven minutes past ten o'clock. Hope you are not downhearted today.
Speaker 1: We are running a POLLAIS concerned about senencing coming out
Speaker 1: of our judicial systems. The Children's Court yesterday handed down
Speaker 1: a decision three years than two months for the minor,
Speaker 1: the young guy who was driving when Nick Campo lost
Speaker 1: his life. We are being overwhelmed by yeses, the yes
Speaker 1: of forty six and the nose nine. John Hammond spoke
Speaker 1: to us and said, look, given what Children's Court President
Speaker 1: Hilton Quayle had in front of him, this was the
Speaker 1: right decision, I will say. And this was note that
Speaker 1: I think by John and by others, and we heard
Speaker 1: Bianchor Campo from outside the court yesterday. It has an
Speaker 1: incredible ripple effect on the families, loved ones, the young guys,
Speaker 1: the young girls were at the party, friends, family, relatives, associates.
Speaker 1: It has a huge, huge impact when something like this happens.
Speaker 1: My mind turns back to the fact that we still
Speaker 1: have four young guys who still get to go to court.
Speaker 1: These were four blokes speeding along South Street in Murdock
Speaker 1: ten to nine on a Thursday night, doing in excess
Speaker 1: for one hundred and seventy k's an hour when they
Speaker 1: were picked up four cars high performance vehicles, their parents'
Speaker 1: cars with walkie talkies, seats facing backwards. They were the
Speaker 1: allegations they were drag racing. They were racing each other.
Speaker 1: So it is happening, It does happen, and a lot
Speaker 1: of this comes back to all A lot of our
Speaker 1: listeners are pointed out maybe parental responsibility. Know more about
Speaker 1: what your young blokes and young girls are up to,
Speaker 1: and that's all correct and the other thing that comes
Speaker 1: out of it. John Hammond raised this point is a
Speaker 1: lot of young people do take significant risks when they're younger.
Speaker 1: There's absolutely no doubt about that. I'll put my hand
Speaker 1: up and say I did, and I don't think there'd
Speaker 1: be too many of us who didn't. Unless you're a yeah,
Speaker 1: you've been a minority. I would have thought nine minutes
Speaker 1: past ten, the yeses are forty six and the nose
Speaker 1: and nine. On judicial sentencing, we're asking the question one
Speaker 1: of a couple of our listens of Ringing today to
Speaker 1: say that what they see in the shops is not
Speaker 1: terribly pleasing. We do see shells being filled, big palettes,
Speaker 1: big trolleys, blocking aisles and the like, and staff refilling
Speaker 1: the shelves as they go Dylan's found in the Dylan
Speaker 1: Yay Bowie.
Speaker 19: There's no winners in their Nick Campaig death.
Speaker 8: Is there terrible?
Speaker 1: Certainly? Certainly not.
Speaker 19: I made I was up last week and the week
Speaker 19: before I was up through the north of the state
Speaker 19: through the Pilburn Gascoyne region and the woolies and coals
Speaker 19: up there, so the woolies in Canamen, the coals in Karatea,
Speaker 19: and the woolies in Newman to try and get fresh produce.
Speaker 19: There was hardly anything there and the stuff that was
Speaker 19: there was not good, and the shelves were I couldn't
Speaker 19: believe how empty a lot of the shelves were. I
Speaker 19: decided when I was Carta to go into the Ida
Speaker 19: and they seem fine. But yeah, I don't know what's
Speaker 19: going on. But given that they're coming into peak season
Speaker 19: up there, there's not a lot of produce there. I
Speaker 19: don't know whether the trucks are running late or it is,
Speaker 19: but you know they are. And also in town they
Speaker 19: are packing the shells during the day. Because I literally
Speaker 19: walked down aisles with the trolley and gone, well, I've
Speaker 19: got to go around to the other hold to get
Speaker 19: to the end of this sole because it can't get through.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it sounds like it is happening, Dylan.
Speaker 1: Thank you mate, thanks for calling in today. Yes, overrun
Speaker 1: with correspondence on the text line Vicky, Hi, Vicky. I
Speaker 1: think those big trolleys and Coals and WILLI is that
Speaker 1: lady was talking about. He's possibly more online deliveries being
Speaker 1: done than the shells being filled. Possibly both, But there's
Speaker 1: a lot of online being done now there is, Vicky,
Speaker 1: click and collect. Very good point. Dave davids Is on
Speaker 1: the subject of night fillers at Coals and Willis. I've
Speaker 1: been to a delivery to both, a delivery delivery to
Speaker 1: both and confirm these supermarket giants now bringing nightfield stuff
Speaker 1: around seven to avoid paying penalty rates after midnight. They
Speaker 1: even give Star three and a half hour shifts. There's
Speaker 1: no entitlement to a paid break. Thank you, David. We've
Speaker 1: had a Woolies worker call in says at his Woolies
Speaker 1: they still do Nightville, but at the fresh convenience product,
Speaker 1: so that's yogurts cheese meets the delis. They get done
Speaker 1: during the day. So a lot of people corresponding on
Speaker 1: this trolley's hogging the aisles. Hi Jeanine, it's not just Nightfille.
Speaker 1: There's also the home shopping collection trolley's hogging the aisles
Speaker 1: coles to shove the oisles closer together, put in more
Speaker 1: fridges for ultra process meals. I haven't noticed that, Jeanine,
Speaker 1: but thank you for your thoughts. And Jay of Carenbine,
Speaker 1: Hi j. The penalty rates for Nightville are much higher
Speaker 1: than day phil yep. Also, instead of getting eight guys
Speaker 1: for four hours, to get three guys for seven hours
Speaker 1: in daytime, cost effective for businesses, but lost jobs for students.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jake, thanks for your thoughts. A lot coming
Speaker 1: in on this one. So you know, a combination of
Speaker 1: more online delivery, more click and collect. So that might
Speaker 1: be what some of the trolleys are there for. As
Speaker 1: I say, at my Warrick, at my Woolies which is
Speaker 1: in Warwick. If you get there at Court to nine
Speaker 1: and there's people everywhere coming out of that those back rooms,
Speaker 1: through those slats to replenish the shelves, it might be
Speaker 1: stored a store too, right, it might differ from storad
Speaker 1: a store. Thanks for listening. Twelve and a half past ten,
Speaker 1: Cool Bowie now on one double three.
Speaker 22: Eight eight two.
Speaker 1: Heard a story come through early this morning that there
Speaker 1: was an innocident of Nus Lombogan yesterday at a place
Speaker 1: called Mushroom Bay where a boat sank, and it involves
Speaker 1: some tourists and their families. Andy Wood joins us. Now
Speaker 1: he's a balley traveler.
Speaker 7: Gooday, Andy, Hey, Simon heio.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good to talk to you. So tell us what
Speaker 1: happened and when was it.
Speaker 7: So it was around prop the cord past four yesterday afternoon,
Speaker 7: just one of the standard sort of fast float ferries
Speaker 7: sort of barking the island. It actually was pretty rough swell.
Speaker 7: The captain of the boat made decision to sort of
Speaker 7: come in nose first and get sort of everybody to
Speaker 7: sort of board up through the nose of the bow
Speaker 7: of the boat. And these boats at the rear are
Speaker 7: actually open. The problem with that was as soon as
Speaker 7: people started sort of swelling on about one hundred odds
Speaker 7: so people the ways were all crashing through the back
Speaker 7: and flooding the boat. I think the captain made a
Speaker 7: decision to go, oh, we're taking on too much water.
Speaker 7: I need to sort of reverse out of here. But
Speaker 7: the problem would have been the reversing back into that
Speaker 7: swell just more came on, and when it got about
Speaker 7: one hundred meters out, it basically started capsizing and chaos ensued.
Speaker 2: Where were you?
Speaker 7: So I was in the middle of the cabin, standing
Speaker 7: with my wife and two children, thankfully sort of up
Speaker 7: towards the front third. My first sort of thought was
Speaker 7: to get the family sort of onto the bow of
Speaker 7: the boat, outside the small little hatch on the bow.
Speaker 7: The problem was one hundred other people had the same idea,
Speaker 7: and I think the majority of them couldn't swim, so
Speaker 7: it was causing a fair bit of anxiety and panic
Speaker 7: amongst people.
Speaker 1: And you're you're md water where you need to swim?
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 7: So look, I mean it was probably about one hundred
Speaker 7: meters out, thankfully not in the middle of the channel
Speaker 7: between the two islands, so you know, there were plenty
Speaker 7: of smaller boats around that sort of were able to
Speaker 7: swell in and kind of help rescue people out of
Speaker 7: the water. But you know, my first thought was, all right,
Speaker 7: get the wife and kids safety over to one side
Speaker 7: and then start trying to help people out and sort
Speaker 7: of pull them out of the water or get them
Speaker 7: onto other boats in between that. So we got separated
Speaker 7: from doing that. But look, at the end of the day,
Speaker 7: everybody got out safe as far as I'm led to believe.
Speaker 7: So preservation of life absolutely paramount, which is fantastic.
Speaker 1: So you're a Perth bloke, aren't you, Andy?
Speaker 7: I am yea born and raised.
Speaker 23: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So other are there Australians there or was it sort
Speaker 1: of a where was it? I'm presuming the mostly tourists.
Speaker 1: Where were they from?
Speaker 22: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Look, so majority, I think we're sort of subcontinent, you know,
Speaker 7: Southeast Asia, sort of India, Bangladesh. That sort many could
Speaker 7: not swim, I'd say the vast majority. That was probably
Speaker 7: only about a dozen of us, the Aussies, you know,
Speaker 7: and it was just you know, people who weren't sort
Speaker 7: of used to being familiar in water. And you know,
Speaker 7: from my perspective, once we were out of the cabin
Speaker 7: of the boat, I knew that even my kids, they've
Speaker 7: been swimming since it's sort of six months old, we'd
Speaker 7: be all right, yeah we're snorkeled off short and other.
Speaker 1: Times how old are your kids?
Speaker 7: So fourteen and my son's twelve.
Speaker 1: Okay, so there's sort of reasonably reasonably grown up and
Speaker 1: reasonably strong that could have gone horribly wrong for a
Speaker 1: lot of people.
Speaker 7: Andy, Yeah, look, it really could have, just because of
Speaker 7: the one point of exit was literally a small little hatch.
Speaker 7: I think the people picked it up the back where
Speaker 7: the water was coming in were real panic states, so
Speaker 7: people smashing the windows to try and get out on
Speaker 7: the sides and stuff. But it was, Yeah, it's pretty
Speaker 7: hairy for a few minutes. But I think sort of
Speaker 7: once some of the other boats came around to try
Speaker 7: and help with the rescue and people sort of making
Speaker 7: their way out, it was a bit easier. But I
Speaker 7: think particularly for those that couldn't swim, they probably could
Speaker 7: be fairly traumatized for the incident, I would think.
Speaker 1: So talking to Andy Wood, who was in Bali yesterday
Speaker 1: at Mushroom Bay when a ferry started sinking and capsizing, andie,
Speaker 1: were you going somewhere permanently? In other words, did you
Speaker 1: and others have luggage with you?
Speaker 7: We did, Yeah, So that all ended up sort of
Speaker 7: floating out in the ocean. They managed to bring our
Speaker 7: cases sort of back in fully water lobs. Of course,
Speaker 7: you know, all the bags and that that we had,
Speaker 7: they were all sort of soaked through, you know, electronic devices,
Speaker 7: all kind of fried, except the phones thankfully in your
Speaker 7: models or water resistant yep, yep. And the boat, mate,
Speaker 7: I'm sort of sitting on the beach right now looking
Speaker 7: at it five meters off shore. So they tried to
Speaker 7: tow it out, you know, basically back to the port
Speaker 7: and Similla yesterday evening, but couldn't get it over the reef,
Speaker 7: so they kind of abandoned that, and it's just literally
Speaker 7: floated back in upside down and just sort of hanging about.
Speaker 7: I've got no idea how I'll get it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, wow. He Sometimes in Bali, those things just
Speaker 1: get left done. Andy, that's it too bad?
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's yeah. I don't know if they'll allow that
Speaker 7: sort of a couple of the local police sort of
Speaker 7: walking around this morning and heading up towards the ferry
Speaker 7: company office, so I think they'll be asking questions about
Speaker 7: it pretty shortly.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Taz, who works with us here, has just handed me
Speaker 1: her phone. It's got the photograph of the boat on it,
Speaker 1: and you're right, it's close to shore, but it looks
Speaker 1: like it's lashed to some rocks, so they're trying to
Speaker 1: keep it there, it would seem.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think so it's I think it's about damage
Speaker 7: minimization at the moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe, I'm glad you're okay, Glad the kids
Speaker 1: are okay, And it's a it's a little bit of
Speaker 1: a miracle if you can have little miracles. It's a
Speaker 1: little miracle that no one perished.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, And you know, I've got a still massive shout
Speaker 7: out actually for the guys over at Ballei High Cruisers
Speaker 7: and High Tide Resort who have been absolutely phenomenal and
Speaker 7: sort of taking care of us post event. You know,
Speaker 7: it wasn't there wasn't their company, but they've really stepped
Speaker 7: up to help us out, which is greatly appreciated, great
Speaker 7: Perth company.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, for sure, Thanks Andy, thanks to to us.
Speaker 1: Glad you're safe, Glad everyone's okay. Yeah, so thanks Amy,
Speaker 1: cheers mate, Andy, would Barley traveler. Thanks to Taz for
Speaker 1: the photo that could have gone terribly terribly wrong. There
Speaker 1: is an outlying reef, so the waves come through this
Speaker 1: well come through there does come through. One hundred people
Speaker 1: on board, most of them couldn't swim. How's that It
Speaker 1: is a nineteen minutes past ten o'clock. If you like
Speaker 1: to phone in that you can Jerry, stay there, mate,
Speaker 1: I'll get to you in just a moment. The order
Speaker 1: to general Caroline Spencer has run the ruler her ruler
Speaker 1: under local government spending on fine dining, or what she's
Speaker 1: describing as fine dining. No, no actual transgressions or breaches
Speaker 1: of process, but in Caroline's opinion, doesn't pass the pub test.
Speaker 1: Stay listening, Yeah, thanks for listening in today. We appreciate
Speaker 1: your time. We've had a lot of calls about Coals
Speaker 1: and Woolies maybe stacking shells during the day or maybe
Speaker 1: using their trolleys and their palettes to provide the online
Speaker 1: shopping service for click and collect. But it does appear
Speaker 1: over the last couple of months people have found it
Speaker 1: inconvenience to shopping the Big two because the amount of
Speaker 1: on shelf packing that's done during the day. I think
Speaker 1: it varies from store to store, but appreciate your thoughts today.
Speaker 1: And yet a lot of people saying, you know, my
Speaker 1: local Woolies or Coals now have allocated parking spaces outside
Speaker 1: the shopping center where people can can click and collect.
Speaker 1: It's a side of the times, I guess. Full disclosure
Speaker 1: from me, I've worked for a number of councils over
Speaker 1: the years, Shore of East Pilrishe of Wanneroo and others.
Speaker 1: I've never had a credit card. I've had and i
Speaker 1: never wanted one. I also worked the West Australian Local
Speaker 1: Government Association for WOLGA. Full disclosure from me right there,
Speaker 1: So pretty hard to defend this one. A number of
Speaker 1: councils have had the ruler drawn underneath them by Caroline
Speaker 1: Spencer and her Superdepartment of Auditors on steroids, and the
Speaker 1: WA Auditor General has filed a report six major councils
Speaker 1: in Perth. No transgressions or breaches as such, it would seem,
Speaker 1: but there doesn't seem to be a clear set of
Speaker 1: rules around what councils can spend money on when it
Speaker 1: comes to when it comes to food and beverages and catering.
Speaker 1: Caroline Spencer joins us now hig Caroline Hi Simon, good
Speaker 1: to talk to you. Is that a fair assessment?
Speaker 15: Yes it is. Look, this isn't this isn't a damning
Speaker 15: report and it could have been so much worse. You know,
Speaker 15: we've got lots of purchasing and credit cards being used
Speaker 15: by local governments and it's important to recognize that this
Speaker 15: is you know, a legitimate means of expenditure. You know,
Speaker 15: you cannot renew it software in many cases without a
Speaker 15: credit card, so you know, they are an important means
Speaker 15: of you know, public expenditure. And you know, we could
Speaker 15: have found that there was personal use in the whole
Speaker 15: bunch of inappropriate use with credit cards, and we didn't
Speaker 15: find that it was pervasive, if you like, it wasn't
Speaker 15: you know, people spending public money on a lot of
Speaker 15: personal things. But what we did highlight on the report
Speaker 15: that is that there are some items of expenditure that
Speaker 15: seem excessive and out of line with community expectations. And
Speaker 15: that was certainly the view of my team, where you know,
Speaker 15: when you compare with practices in the state public sector
Speaker 15: that it just wasn't aligned, you know, French Champagne, we saw,
Speaker 15: we saw some off site meetings with oysters and those
Speaker 15: sorts of assignment. And so what this order really does
Speaker 15: is remind public offices, whether they were elected men, administrative staff,
Speaker 15: not just in local government but state sector atornity, you're
Speaker 15: spending other people's money, You're spending public money when you
Speaker 15: every time you every time you purchase something, and to
Speaker 15: make sure that it's both reasonable, it's appropriate and having
Speaker 15: regard to where it comes from, and it comes from
Speaker 15: the public, the community's perse.
Speaker 2: You use an interesting fart phrase which I don't think
Speaker 2: i've heard you use before.
Speaker 1: It doesn't pass the pub test. You're a woman of
Speaker 1: rigor and diligence. I don't know how you measure. I mean,
Speaker 1: talk about programs like us have the pub test, but
Speaker 1: I didn't think you did.
Speaker 15: Look the chief armor to a pub talk. You know,
Speaker 15: we look under the covers and we say, you know,
Speaker 15: actually it's not bad run things that jabbing about the
Speaker 15: pub or.
Speaker 16: Around the barbie.
Speaker 15: But look, you know, like everyone enjoy a drink with
Speaker 15: friends and family. But with these sorts of things, you're
Speaker 15: spending public money. And I always use the guide that
Speaker 15: if you're spending other people's money, you have to be
Speaker 15: more diligent than if you're spending your own. And I
Speaker 15: know you know from my interactions with local govern elected
Speaker 15: members and staff all my team's knowing tract with so
Speaker 15: many across the state, regional and metro and they are
Speaker 15: in the main good honorable people just doing their best
Speaker 15: to serve their community, often dealing with difficult, complex issues.
Speaker 15: They have meetings at night and providing meals and even
Speaker 15: the odd glass of wine. I would suggest Australian reasonably
Speaker 15: priced wine rather than full bars stoctor excessively. It's those
Speaker 15: sort of things that are fine, and I don't want
Speaker 15: to be if you like the fun police on this,
Speaker 15: but just remembering that to keep it less excessive than
Speaker 15: you would spend spend on yourself, because you know, this
Speaker 15: is other people's money. It's the hardened taxes that people
Speaker 15: have to pay to governments that really should be spent
Speaker 15: with care and diligence.
Speaker 1: So this is Coburn, the City of per City, Melville,
Speaker 1: vic Park, Trio and Subi and there aren't there's some
Speaker 1: you know, there's quite a number of things listened in
Speaker 1: your report. I mean there's some high end I agree
Speaker 1: with sixty eight bucks a bottle of champagne is too much,
Speaker 1: but there's also four hundred and twelve dollars for four
Speaker 1: cases of wine, which I think if there are cases
Speaker 1: of twelve, that's there's seven eight dollar bottles of wine.
Speaker 1: That's that's reasonable, isn't Yeah?
Speaker 15: Look, I think it is. And your maths might be
Speaker 15: better than me at this time. With the fullshit too
Speaker 15: I've got down here in Albany at the moment, but
Speaker 15: I think the team were when they were on certain things.
Speaker 15: The bars kept stocked with things, and yeah, French champagne
Speaker 15: for things. You know, it was excessive in their view,
Speaker 15: but making sure that when you're that there's guidance for staff,
Speaker 15: because I mean, part of the reason that we can't
Speaker 15: say it was inappropriate is because there are inadequate policies
Speaker 15: and guidance in local government and what is not nowable
Speaker 15: and reasonable businesses, and particularly around alcohol and travel and
Speaker 15: meals and entertainment and gifts and things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as I say, the pub tests or the optics
Speaker 1: as we sometimes say, are important in these in the times. Caroline,
Speaker 1: why are you in Albany today?
Speaker 15: We look, we've got I have the privilege of being
Speaker 15: a State Records Commissioner along with the Information Commissioner, the
Speaker 15: ombudsman and an expert in archives appointed by the governor.
Speaker 15: And so this is our first regional meeting in a
Speaker 15: long term. It's a head of the bisoninery next year
Speaker 15: for the City of Albany, and so down here with
Speaker 15: the State Records Office staff having our meeting, but also
Speaker 15: a local history event that if your listeners are interested
Speaker 15: in coming along to exploring the history of the Great
Speaker 15: Southern Region through the archives nine point thirty tomorrow morning
Speaker 15: at the Albany Public Library and people can register through
Speaker 15: the library if they'd like to attend. And we're also
Speaker 15: meeting with local public offices in state and local government
Speaker 15: this afternoon and they can you know, we want to
Speaker 15: hear as the State Records Office staff and as the
Speaker 15: commission from about the issues that they find with the
Speaker 15: record keed because records are so expensive, they're so important
Speaker 15: in terms of accountable and transparent decision making and the
Speaker 15: foundation of our democracy. You know, if making decisions that
Speaker 15: affect others, if public officers are making decisions that affect others,
Speaker 15: having them documented, whether it's a planning decision of council
Speaker 15: or whether it's something massive like the Albany Ring Road
Speaker 15: or the decisions of the port, those things need to
Speaker 15: be documented. And so records and the precious ones archives
Speaker 15: are so important. And so I've had the privilege of
Speaker 15: inspecting state and local government infrastructure. We've just been up
Speaker 15: to the National ANTC Center meeting members and leaders of
Speaker 15: the community down here. It's been a great privilege and
Speaker 15: a very very intense and.
Speaker 12: Lovely few days.
Speaker 1: So nine point thirty meeting tomorrow and it's a public presentation,
Speaker 1: so no Dom Perignon or Coffin Bay Easters.
Speaker 15: Look, there might be the odds sand which you're s
Speaker 15: gone if we're lucky, Simon, but that's that's not what people.
Speaker 24: Are coming for.
Speaker 15: But yeah, if you're if the community is interested, registered
Speaker 15: through the library, it's going to be a great attendance.
Speaker 15: I've heard already. And you know, just just grateful for
Speaker 15: people coming and sharing their stories and engaging with the
Speaker 15: history of this fabulous place.
Speaker 1: Thanks for talking to us today and enjoy Albany and
Speaker 1: I agree that that Anzac sender is really something. Isn't
Speaker 1: as an extraordinary.
Speaker 15: Bit of kid up there had a glimpse of it
Speaker 15: early this morning. And yeah, we'll bring my family back
Speaker 15: to actually spend time studying the just beautiful and we
Speaker 15: have to remember, you know, we must remember.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely less, we forget. Thanks Caroline, thank you for
Speaker 1: talking to us.
Speaker 15: Thanks Simons.
Speaker 1: Here Caroline spends a talking good sense. So there are
Speaker 1: five metro councils, so no transgressions, no breaches of process,
Speaker 1: which is what Caroline normally goes. You know what she
Speaker 1: normally looks at when she looks at agencies, state and local,
Speaker 1: no breaches, but says doesn't necessarily pass the pub test.
Speaker 1: And I guess that is pretty good common sense, isn't it.
Speaker 1: If you're spending someone else's money, you should spend less
Speaker 1: on than what you'd spend on yourself. Twenty eight and
Speaker 1: a half minutes to eleven o'clock. It is the way agency,
Speaker 1: you know. I hear my fellow presenters on this station
Speaker 1: talk about how big some of these council businesses are.
Speaker 1: I think I heard Eli say the other day that Nedlands,
Speaker 1: for example, who are for me to strife at the moment. Hello,
Speaker 1: Ely if you're listening, are a forty million dollar budget business.
Speaker 1: So these are businesses, and they on occasion need to
Speaker 1: operate like businesses, and they hold events, and they hold
Speaker 1: functions and awards nights, and they buy catering with credit cards.
Speaker 1: And see spends that you're saying, it's not your money,
Speaker 1: spend it wisely and appropriately. Not bad. Good ay, James,
Speaker 1: good nighting showing.
Speaker 25: I used to work for the federal government for far
Speaker 25: too many years, but for spending is just I mean
Speaker 25: it's all over the place that the excess. You know,
Speaker 25: you talk about going out, we could go out in
Speaker 25: half a dozen of a spend when we're in Canberra,
Speaker 25: you know, spend two thousand dollars on a meal and
Speaker 25: then better an eyelid. But you go to the Midi
Speaker 25: bar in your room, if you take a five dollars chocolate,
Speaker 25: you just get hunt. I thought that was quite odd.
Speaker 25: But somewhere where you know where money spend, it just
Speaker 25: goes entirely unnoticed. There were new chairs brought into a
Speaker 25: meeting room. There are ten chairs. These chairs would be
Speaker 25: sat in six, seven, eight, nine times a year for
Speaker 25: a few hours each. Each chair costs one thousand and
Speaker 25: five hundred dollars. M.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, when was that mate, Well five years ago?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right mate, yeah, no, yes, thank you, James. I.
Speaker 1: This is a local government versus federal spending. You know,
Speaker 1: well there are you know, if you've worked in any
Speaker 1: level of government, I've worked in all three, you do
Speaker 1: see you do see excesses spending on some things, but
Speaker 1: it's always it is a budget and it's usually a
Speaker 1: budget that's transparent. The budget gets passed by a board
Speaker 1: or a council and then the officers spend it as
Speaker 1: per the budget. Aliens says, get a alien. The voice
Speaker 1: of is that was very well expressed by Caroline. Good
Speaker 1: to know someone who's taken interest in how our money
Speaker 1: is being used. The guilty councils will probably called a
Speaker 1: party pooper, but simply simply being responsible. Thank you, Aileen.
Speaker 1: Twenty six minutes to eleven o'clock. Nick Maruchak in next
Speaker 1: from MKI Legal.
Speaker 2: Some good news.
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Speaker 10: moving as safely in both locations.
Speaker 1: Otherwise a good run Mitchell.
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Speaker 10: Row Highway a little bit slow hazel Mere southbound at
Speaker 10: the bypass. I'm Robie verrom Perutz, traffic leader six pr.
Speaker 1: Good a, Nick good A Bowie, Good to see you. Likewise,
Speaker 1: busy out there, yep, very busy all right, working late
Speaker 1: at night, working on weekends.
Speaker 22: Yeah.
Speaker 26: And I'm also part of a startup. I'm doing a
Speaker 26: legal AI startup, so I'm part of the plus eight
Speaker 26: program which is sponsored by the state government.
Speaker 2: Also doing that.
Speaker 26: That's a really it's a great, great thing.
Speaker 2: So true.
Speaker 26: Yeah, okay, yeah, trying to help our lawyers become more
Speaker 26: efficient with AI.
Speaker 22: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's everywhere, isn't that. I've always sort of tried to
Speaker 1: hold it at bay because we like to think the
Speaker 1: spoken word and live commentary, etcetera. Is important. But it's everywhere.
Speaker 26: It's a matter of time before it just ifistrates it
Speaker 26: becomes your entire life.
Speaker 1: I hopefully well still need for humans, Nick, like yourself
Speaker 1: and me and James and Ann and Sean. If you
Speaker 1: want to speak to Nick Muchet, you can wonderble three
Speaker 1: A eighty two. We've had a text and you might
Speaker 1: be able to address this for me. Get a John O.
Speaker 1: He says, why are those kids that were doing the
Speaker 1: racing not named in shame? Their faces passed over the news,
Speaker 1: news and newspapers, so they are shamed in public. Thank you,
Speaker 1: John O. Nick, We can't do that name minus.
Speaker 26: You can name people over eighteen, but in Wa, there
Speaker 26: is probably everywhere around the country, there are strict laws
Speaker 26: prohibiting identifying individuals under eighteen involved in any criminal proceedings.
Speaker 26: So you can't get their name, they face, their school,
Speaker 26: anything that can identify by them, so that's against the law.
Speaker 26: And Another point to note is we have the Young
Speaker 26: Offenders Act, which provides a mechanism to wipe the criminal
Speaker 26: record if after they turn eighteen, and after there's a
Speaker 26: period of like a two year period of good behavior,
Speaker 26: so that there is a mechanism. So generally you kind
Speaker 26: of get a fresh style after eighteen as long as
Speaker 26: you are good and when you get your criminal search
Speaker 26: it doesn't show. So there is that. I mean there's
Speaker 26: a whole policy ground for that, which is, you know,
Speaker 26: kids under eighteen adults, they don't have as much criminal
Speaker 26: responsibility as over eighteen. But as we know, as soon
Speaker 26: as you turn eighteen, your face can be plastered all
Speaker 26: over the news. And yeah, so it works, it works.
Speaker 1: Thanks John, No, thanks for your thoughts. We do need
Speaker 1: to be careful in talking about court cases on social media.
Speaker 1: This is in the rumor fhile this morning, have a
Speaker 1: listen from Legal Legal.
Speaker 27: I have to read this as it's written. Okay, what
Speaker 27: for logal reasons I do. Rumor has it that a
Speaker 27: popular Perth based mummy blogger has received a very stern
Speaker 27: email from an interstate court after speculating about a well
Speaker 27: known trial that is currently taking place and opening it
Speaker 27: up for comments to her followers. As we know, there
Speaker 27: are serious contempt of court issues in doing this with
Speaker 27: the trial currently taking place, and the court was quick
Speaker 27: to jump on the post, getting the blogger to delete
Speaker 27: it just under an hour after it was posted, by
Speaker 27: which then it had already had hundreds of comments on it.
Speaker 27: The blogger then posted again, explaining that she had to
Speaker 27: delete the post, but again didn't turn comments off, so
Speaker 27: it all started again. Comments have now been turned off.
Speaker 27: Don't say anything further about that, all.
Speaker 1: Right, So they've been published, haven't they? Nick?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: By definition, yep, that's right.
Speaker 26: So basically this area of law is something it's a
Speaker 26: contempt of court.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 26: So there's this special kind of word called sub judas contempt,
Speaker 26: and it's basically this right that prohibits publishing material that
Speaker 26: poses a real and definite, definitive risk of prejudicing a trial. Right,
Speaker 26: So you can't influence a trial. It's called the administration
Speaker 26: of justice. So what this really means is, and this
Speaker 26: is applus to everyone, not just court reporters. Right, you
Speaker 26: have to you have to make sure that the trial
Speaker 26: is not unfairly influenced. And some of the things you
Speaker 26: have to really be careful of is not to reveal
Speaker 26: any information that the jury is not aware of, right.
Speaker 26: So sometimes an example is if the accuse has a
Speaker 26: criminal record, that often is kept from the jury because
Speaker 26: that could influence their decision. So you can't reveal stuff
Speaker 26: like that. And you also have to really be careful
Speaker 26: when you're implying guilt or innocence of the accused as well,
Speaker 26: because that can influence things. So this is the right
Speaker 26: process the court has took. Because as we know social media,
Speaker 26: they have a long tail, which means that things are
Speaker 26: caged or kept on there. Even though the deleted screenshots
Speaker 26: are shared reshared, you can't get rid of something when
Speaker 26: it's on the internet. So it's good that they acted
Speaker 26: quick and really the best course there's just to stick
Speaker 26: to the objective facts that are reported that vituory is
Speaker 26: aware of, right, don't really go into territory of saying
Speaker 26: this person is guilty, et cetera.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, once published, it remains. So you and I
Speaker 1: did talk about an issue last week where something had
Speaker 1: been published and could no longer be found, and that
Speaker 1: does create issues. But usually there's a screen capture or
Speaker 1: there's a way of finding publications that have been have
Speaker 1: since been deleted. Sixteen minutes to nine, sorry, seventeen minutes
Speaker 1: to nine. If you'd like to phone Nick Maruchek call
Speaker 1: through one double three eighty two is the phone number today.
Speaker 1: Anything that you like there has been so I wanted
Speaker 1: to ask you about. There's sort of a almost a
Speaker 1: burden of truth threshold in different procedures. Nick. So with
Speaker 1: regards to with regards to the finees enforcement. With regards
Speaker 1: to the fines enforcement case with the Kimbley Publican, the
Speaker 1: WA Supreme Court found the Liquor Commission misapplied the law
Speaker 1: in a police back complaint which and there's now white
Speaker 1: hefty penalty against against two Derby pubs. Raises questions about
Speaker 1: procedural fairness in licensing enforcement. So there are different and
Speaker 1: I'm using the term burdens of proof, which is which
Speaker 1: is my phrase, and it's probably not a legal too,
Speaker 1: but in different in different jurisdictions, that the burden of
Speaker 1: being able to prove something to be fair or unfair
Speaker 1: or legal or illegal can differ a bit, can't it.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 26: So when it's criminal cases, you have to prove beyond
Speaker 26: reasonable doubts. So there can be no doubt. And this
Speaker 26: is a much higher burden in civil cases such as
Speaker 26: this penalty hearing, it's on balance of probability. But this
Speaker 26: is basically a win for the pub Right. The police
Speaker 26: really went hard at this person, and for a breach
Speaker 26: of a I think it was like a liquor package,
Speaker 26: packaged liquor restrictions something like that. Right, So there was
Speaker 26: a breached. They got this big fine of one hundred
Speaker 26: and forty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 26: But the key in this case was one of the
Speaker 26: people in the commission that one of the decision makers
Speaker 26: wasn't present for the hearing, and so one of the
Speaker 26: judges was even president of the hearing and still was
Speaker 26: involved in making the decision. So I don't know how
Speaker 26: that kind of got through. So and then so the
Speaker 26: Supreme Court said, you can't do that. That denies the
Speaker 26: principle of natural justice. Right, So whenever there's governments involved
Speaker 26: and administrations, you have to have the opportunity to be
Speaker 26: heard and the decision maker, all the decision makers have
Speaker 26: to hear your case. So that was one that was
Speaker 26: really that failed. And the other thing is when it
Speaker 26: comes to this penalty, they really questioned whether the penalty
Speaker 26: was what was proportionate right, So it was probably a
Speaker 26: bit too high. So they sent it back to the
Speaker 26: Liquor Commission tribunal and hopefully it gets reassessed and re
Speaker 26: evaluated there. But yeah, it's good to see the pub win.
Speaker 26: But they probably spent a bunch on legal fees to
Speaker 26: kind of go through this whole fight, and it would
Speaker 26: have been quite an ordeal for them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure. But one level three eighty two.
Speaker 1: If you liked to speak to Nick Marie today, Nick
Speaker 1: will we will take your break. It's fourteen minutes to eleven.
Speaker 1: If you have any legal questions of family law, questions
Speaker 1: to seize the states, anything like that, give a Nick
Speaker 1: Maruchek a call from MKI legal fourteen minutes to eleven.
Speaker 1: Have a query for Nick Maruchak from MKI legal. Give
Speaker 1: us a bell one double three two roses phoned in.
Speaker 1: Get a rose.
Speaker 28: Hi, how are you going good?
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 28: I have a question about filling out forms for the
Speaker 28: e portal for the court system. So I have to
Speaker 28: get a statement from a witness. So do I get
Speaker 28: him to I'm thirty two a or something? Do I
Speaker 28: get him to fill that out and can he type
Speaker 28: that or does he have to handwrite it?
Speaker 26: Okay, So yeah, you're going through a civil claim. It
Speaker 26: sounds like it, Rose, and the Magistrate's Court YEP Form
Speaker 26: thirty two Statement of Intended Evidence of a witness, So
Speaker 26: it's basically like a witness statement, so you could he
Speaker 26: could type it out right and it's basically his version
Speaker 26: in first person. So this witness will just say, this
Speaker 26: is what I heard, this is what I saw. Sometimes
Speaker 26: a lot we do these all the time as lawyers.
Speaker 26: We'll sit down with the witness, get their evidence and
Speaker 26: then type it out. So and the other thing is
Speaker 26: this is probably a side note that you know the
Speaker 26: software I mentioned that I was creating, it's actually for
Speaker 26: witness statements. So my AI software can record a meeting
Speaker 26: with the witness and it can create the witness statement
Speaker 26: before you. So Rose, if you want help, because a
Speaker 26: lot of lawyers actually don't want to don't want to
Speaker 26: use it because it makes them more efficient. So if
Speaker 26: you want to use it, Rose, you can use our software.
Speaker 26: You can record the meeting with this witness and you
Speaker 26: can get an AI to produce the witness statement before you.
Speaker 26: And then you have to tidy it up and check
Speaker 26: it of course, but if you like to use it,
Speaker 26: I can help you. And it's to win three months
Speaker 26: to create all two months and yeah, it's working really great.
Speaker 26: So if that hope that might help as well.
Speaker 28: Can I then have to that to the court and
Speaker 28: they stamp it and then I have to give it
Speaker 28: to the other party or.
Speaker 26: You upload it. You upload it to the court portal.
Speaker 26: So a lot of these filings are done online. You
Speaker 26: will have a due date to do that, so you
Speaker 26: upload it, the court will process it and then you
Speaker 26: send it off to the other side as well, right
Speaker 26: before the deadline in the court orders.
Speaker 28: So they then send it back to me stamped.
Speaker 26: Yeah. You when you file it with in the court portal,
Speaker 26: they'll have the processor and then I haven't done it
Speaker 26: for a long time, but you download it and they'll
Speaker 26: give you there's a court seal on the electronic copy
Speaker 26: and then you send it to them on the other side. Yeah,
Speaker 26: so it's all done online these days. And if I mean,
Speaker 26: if you can't if you're have in real trouble online
Speaker 26: that they do have exceptions.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's how you do it.
Speaker 28: That help out rose thought of because if the other
Speaker 28: person's got like four witnesses and I've only got one
Speaker 28: document given to me.
Speaker 26: And yeah, I mean, look, if your witness on your
Speaker 26: side is not cooperating and doesn't want to provide a statement,
Speaker 26: then you can support of them as well. And that's
Speaker 26: where you would fill out this Form thirty two A
Speaker 26: with your best kind of evidence that you can you believe.
Speaker 28: Okay, I think I think I've got it. Okay, thanks
Speaker 28: very much for you.
Speaker 1: No staying in touch, Rosa. If we can help or
Speaker 1: if Nick can help, you will thank you for your call.
Speaker 2: Get a Phil Yes, gooday.
Speaker 29: I had a real estate agent managing a commercial property
Speaker 29: for me.
Speaker 7: At the end of the.
Speaker 29: Lease, the tenant I had a lot of bank rent
Speaker 29: and interest on the back rent that wasn't paid or
Speaker 29: was paid, and then at the end the agent never
Speaker 29: pursued to recover the money. So I actually took the
Speaker 29: tenant to court and recovered the money through the magistrate's court.
Speaker 29: But then the tenant wouldn't pay the money back to
Speaker 29: me directly. They paid it to the real estate agent,
Speaker 29: and the real estate agent took his commission out of it,
Speaker 29: even though he did nothing. Is he entitled for that?
Speaker 26: This is a good question, so that you want to
Speaker 26: have a look at his terms of engagement first, right,
Speaker 26: So I would imagine his terms and engagement pretty broad.
Speaker 26: That would entitle him to the commission received. You want
Speaker 26: to see if there's a term in the contract that
Speaker 26: forces him to go and pursue the claim on your
Speaker 26: behalf in the magistrates' court, So check the contract first.
Speaker 26: The other thing is there is law that says if
Speaker 26: an unfair contract term right, if a term and a
Speaker 26: consumer contract is unfair, that can be challenged. So on
Speaker 26: the face of it, I think that there's probably an
Speaker 26: argument that if you know he is getting commission unfairly here,
Speaker 26: so the unfair contract terms could apply. It's not clear cut.
Speaker 26: So you could write to him and say, look, I
Speaker 26: don't I think it's unfairly you're receiving this unfair contract terms.
Speaker 26: Give me my money back, and if he doesn't, you
Speaker 26: can threaten to go to the magistrates court and if
Speaker 26: her claims under ten thousand, when all lose, you're not
Speaker 26: going to pay the legal costs. So that's something to
Speaker 26: try and try and recover as much as you can.
Speaker 26: The other thing is Department of Commerce regulates this intry
Speaker 26: so just check with them to see if there's any
Speaker 26: procedures that real estate agent have to follow in these circumstances,
Speaker 26: and just to see if there's been any rules that
Speaker 26: have been breached here as well. So they are the
Speaker 26: two courses you can try.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, thanks film good only mate. This is
Speaker 1: a text from Katie. Thanks Katie. A family member works
Speaker 1: at a daycare mention. They started a contract. When starting
Speaker 1: they can't work at another daycare center within fifty klongs
Speaker 1: if they leave the place she is employed at the moment,
Speaker 1: continues to hang promotion pay rises are over them, but
Speaker 1: without actually ever going through with it at face value?
Speaker 1: Is this actually enforcible?
Speaker 26: Great question? So this is called restraint or trade right.
Speaker 26: In unemployment contracts, sometimes there's clauses that say after you leave,
Speaker 26: you can't work for a competitor. Now, the way these
Speaker 26: clauses work is on the face of it, they are unenforceable,
Speaker 26: so their starting position wa is they're not enforceable unless
Speaker 26: the employer proves that they are reasonable. So this is
Speaker 26: the gray area, right, So sometimes they are reasonable in
Speaker 26: certain circumstances. In this case, I'm looking at this on
Speaker 26: the face of it, and fifty kilometers.
Speaker 1: Sounds at whole mature area.
Speaker 26: Yeah, I just I mean, this is just my initial
Speaker 26: view on it. This one will be hard to enforce.
Speaker 26: So I don't think this one would be like I mean,
Speaker 26: unless the person is really senior up or something like that,
Speaker 26: if they if they're working just in the regular job,
Speaker 26: then no, I don't think this with the court will
Speaker 26: probably enforce this one. And what normally happens is the
Speaker 26: employer really wants to go after you, they'll usually right
Speaker 26: to you first. Then you can try and negotiate with them.
Speaker 26: But look, I have to also give you the worst case.
Speaker 26: Worst case is if I'm wrong and I don't look
Speaker 26: at this one sounds like it's not going to stand up.
Speaker 26: But say if it does stand up, then you know
Speaker 26: that you go through the core process, you go through
Speaker 26: legal fees. It's a big nightmare. But most of the time, you.
Speaker 1: Know, it sounds like we're strained to try it, doesn't it.
Speaker 26: Yeah, So most that you know, employees don't really go
Speaker 26: after you for this unless you're causing them monetary loss. Right,
Speaker 26: So if you're causing financial loss, then they might go
Speaker 26: after you, or if you're really seeing you they'll go
Speaker 26: after you, or if they hate you, they'll go after you.
Speaker 26: But in this case I would say I would probably
Speaker 26: push back and say, no, look, this one is too
Speaker 26: it's too wide, right, so too wide. And if it's
Speaker 26: too wide, then it's not enforcible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they go Katie. That helped Katie. I think that sometimes,
Speaker 1: and again depends on the person and the relationship with
Speaker 1: the organization in the media. Sometimes you know, work for
Speaker 1: another media outlet for six months or twelve months or whatever.
Speaker 1: It is like a sunset clause that it's not always applied.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: It varies.
Speaker 26: And there is laws that have been discussed that are
Speaker 26: potentially going through parliament to eliminate these clauses for people
Speaker 26: under the high income threshold, so if you're under one
Speaker 26: hundred and seventy five K. They want to try and
Speaker 26: reduce these laws from applying. So that's laws that being
Speaker 26: currently considered, and the government wrote a report on it
Speaker 26: and they reckon they'll add heaps of economic value and
Speaker 26: productivity to it. And they're really prevalent in certain industries
Speaker 26: like it headdressing. They're just they're misused.
Speaker 22: Yep.
Speaker 1: Let me put you on the spot a little bit,
Speaker 1: Nick maru Chak, where you're asking the questions today of
Speaker 1: our listeners. You're a lawyer. Are you concerned about sentencing
Speaker 1: in the community being too lenient? Given that the guy
Speaker 1: young fellow involved in the tragic death of Nick Campe
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago got three years and two months.
Speaker 1: Our listeners are saying yes, fifty four's nos nine. Are
Speaker 1: you a no?
Speaker 26: I am concerned that it's too lenient, that's my personal opinion, right,
Speaker 26: I think this is yeah, Simon, yes, because I think
Speaker 26: you know this driver he was old enough to drive.
Speaker 26: I'm sure he's under eighteen, but he's over eighteen now,
Speaker 26: but he was old enough to know right, right and wrong,
Speaker 26: so I think his sentence should be.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm a yeah, all right.
Speaker 1: Thank you for this week, Nick, look forward. Thanks for
Speaker 1: helping out our listeners and especially Rose with the offer
Speaker 1: of the of the AI transcription service and like it
Speaker 1: good idea. Hope it goes well for you, mate, than
Speaker 1: you give a little leaver cuddle for us and we'll
Speaker 1: see you next week. Thank you boy, See you mate,
Speaker 1: Nick maru Chack back next week, like you to have
Speaker 1: him three and a half to eleven. Mick Colos will
Speaker 1: join us soon.
Speaker 2: Sorry about that's hard to get good and reliable, punctual stuff.
Speaker 1: Mick Colos will join us after eleven. I've got plenty
Speaker 1: to talk about. Phone lines are open one double three
Speaker 1: A Daddy two. Thanks for listening in. We kicked off
Speaker 1: today's show with a yes, no question for you. Given
Speaker 1: what we saw yesterday with the sentencing around the minor
Speaker 1: M I. N O. R. Who was involved was driving
Speaker 1: the car when Nick Campo was killed. Are you concerned
Speaker 1: about sentencing in our judicial system? The Yester, the fifty six,
Speaker 1: and the nose and nine. Thanks for being part of
Speaker 1: it today. I'll bring you some of your thoughts on
Speaker 1: that in just a moment. Let's do this.
Speaker 2: Can I meet hang on, Simon? How long I've been
Speaker 2: coming here? Do you reckon? First time ever I've been
Speaker 2: given a glass of water? Thank you? Sean? Well done?
Speaker 1: Well I'm calling I'm calling incorrect.
Speaker 2: You think, to the man, why how many times do
Speaker 2: I sit here and someone says we'd like a drink
Speaker 2: of water?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not sure about yours.
Speaker 2: M Fees could count on one of his three fingers.
Speaker 1: You might be maybe you're that beautiful mind is maybe
Speaker 1: the memory part of it's not working that well.
Speaker 2: You reckon, I get water all the time in here.
Speaker 2: I'd like to go on the videotape my back because
Speaker 2: there's no way.
Speaker 1: Well what about that time you complain you wouldn't get
Speaker 1: a biscuit? Yeah, so I brought you in like a
Speaker 1: pack of favorites with it, fifty biscuits, and you took
Speaker 1: the pack at home.
Speaker 2: You brought me a pack of a biscuit.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't. I bought you one.
Speaker 2: He put one or two on a plate. Hon't give
Speaker 2: me the whole packet and then we'll take That's why
Speaker 2: you don't get water, because you just take it home.
Speaker 2: You'll probably take that glass, that whole pack. I thought
Speaker 2: that was you giving me a packet week. That's what
Speaker 2: most people will give someone a packet of biscuit. It's
Speaker 2: not a biscuit if it's a gift.
Speaker 1: I don't want to have to get to a stage
Speaker 1: we have to strip search you when you leave, because
Speaker 1: you're taking their glasses and biscuits at one level. Three
Speaker 1: eighty two is the phone number today. You have given
Speaker 1: some money to a bloat, to a windscreen washing feller.
Speaker 2: It wasn't it wasn't. It was just so you come
Speaker 2: down the coast and you get to that the restaurant
Speaker 2: sort of at Latent Beach. Then you turn the left,
Speaker 2: turned back in towards the road. And then so I
Speaker 2: was on the the lights about to turn onto the
Speaker 2: new bridge, the free bridge. There was a bloke sitting
Speaker 2: there and he's on his milk crate, and you had
Speaker 2: a sign saying need money for food. And I thought, oh,
Speaker 2: the poor bug. If you're at that point where that's
Speaker 2: what you've got to try and get some money, you'll
Speaker 2: I'll give him some money. But I thought, I don't
Speaker 2: have any money on me, So I've got my credit
Speaker 2: card on have you? And I thought, I'll have a
Speaker 2: look in my in my glove box and around if
Speaker 2: I've got some money in me in the farm. I
Speaker 2: was in the farm yute, so I've got water dripping
Speaker 2: through the windscreen. So I've a batman as well, coils
Speaker 2: of rope in the back. And so I've gone off.
Speaker 2: I've had to pass him, but I thought I'll go
Speaker 2: around the blox. I went around the block and I
Speaker 2: looked and I thought, if I find some money in
Speaker 2: my glove box, I'll give him some money. He went
Speaker 2: around the block. Yeah, so I thought that's very nice. Again, Yeah, God,
Speaker 2: I just felt. I just felt, you know, my life's okay.
Speaker 2: So if I can help a blackout, I hope him out.
Speaker 2: So I've had my glove box and there's a fifty
Speaker 2: dollar note in there. Now I'm thinking, I'll hang on
Speaker 2: a second. How generous do I want to be here?
Speaker 2: But I thought I can't ask him for change, So
Speaker 2: I thought I'll give him. I'll give him fifty bucks.
Speaker 2: So I've come back around que there he's waiting, Now,
Speaker 2: give him fifty dollars. Yeah. So so he stands up
Speaker 2: and then the lady in front of me put and
Speaker 2: I put my hand out to get him to come
Speaker 2: down to me. And then the lady in front of
Speaker 2: me gave him a twenty, right, and then he's spoken
Speaker 2: to her, and then he's come to me, and I've
Speaker 2: given him a fifty. So this boke's on seventy bucks
Speaker 2: a minute at the moment, and you don't give to receive.
Speaker 2: But I thought he might say, thanks, that's free generous
Speaker 2: of you. So I give him in the fifty bucks
Speaker 2: and then he's just he's just ranted at me. And
Speaker 2: I don't know what he was saying. He was just
Speaker 2: quoting Bible scriptures and all sorts of things. And then
Speaker 2: he walked off and I said, mate, just make sure
Speaker 2: you grabbed yourself something something to it, and then then
Speaker 2: drove off. He gave you a little rant. Yeah, just yeah,
Speaker 2: you can't remember any of it now because it was
Speaker 2: I didn't have to kind of get into some scary
Speaker 2: territory about you know, death and all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 2: So I just I just kind of switched off till
Speaker 2: he finished, said, mate, just give yourself. It hasn't worked
Speaker 2: out that well, No, that isn't really would you like
Speaker 2: if you had your inflated, would you have if you
Speaker 2: had your time again, would you I'd go and get
Speaker 2: some change and then I so you would have turned left?
Speaker 2: Did you turn right? I went right, so right over
Speaker 2: the bridge, going to the bridge. Then did the you
Speaker 2: eat and then went back around and then back to it.
Speaker 1: Do look about three kilometers come back to the giving
Speaker 1: him fifty giving you something the Bible. So if you
Speaker 1: turn left, you could have gone to Old Bridge Sellers
Speaker 1: former bottle shop of the year, and he could have
Speaker 1: gone in there. They would have given you some change,
Speaker 1: so she had given him two dollars. I wondered if
Speaker 1: he gave the saying to the other lady.
Speaker 2: He did, because I was looking at her and I thought,
Speaker 2: I'll be really thankful to.
Speaker 1: Her rant he was just ranting at her. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: very unfortunate. Yeah, listeners, you're welcome or give us a call. One,
Speaker 1: double three atty two. Is the phone number have you
Speaker 1: recently given to someone on the side of the road.
Speaker 2: Is there a going rate?
Speaker 1: It feels like five or ten, doesn't that two or five?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would have thought. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, there is a theory that they're part of
Speaker 1: a you know, a cartel, and they get transported around
Speaker 1: from different places.
Speaker 2: Because this blake looked like you're doing it pretty tough.
Speaker 1: I see the same lady at the corner of read
Speaker 1: near and I see her there all the time. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's often. I often think, I hope you got a
Speaker 1: sunscreen on. She's been out there all day in single
Speaker 1: it one double three, atty two. If you'd like to
Speaker 1: give us a shout, we have a story coming up
Speaker 1: for you that he involved ablutions. We're going to talk
Speaker 1: about that in just a moment. So this story was
Speaker 1: on Channel nine last night. I think Jamie Freestone might
Speaker 1: have had the story. But there's there's a business premises
Speaker 1: in the Northern Suburbs that has been I won't say randomly,
Speaker 1: but systematically targeted by a jogger who needs to do
Speaker 1: their ablutions to the full capacity. So we'll have a
Speaker 1: chat to the business owner and then just the moment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a very unusual story. You spotted some crocheted flowers
Speaker 1: in a in a shop the other day.
Speaker 2: I was in the IgA, so not a fancy shop,
Speaker 2: and there was I thought there were flowers at first glance,
Speaker 2: and as and I thought maybe a first I thought
Speaker 2: I might have been real, But as I got close,
Speaker 2: I thought, I maybe they're plastic because they look very
Speaker 2: bright and colorful. As I got close they were. They
Speaker 2: were crocheted like someone's croy shaded flowers. And I thought,
Speaker 2: does anyone buy those things? Who would buy them? Would
Speaker 2: you buy one?
Speaker 1: I don't think so?
Speaker 2: No, who would?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Because anybody has anyone bought a crow shaded flower? And
Speaker 2: how is that a business? Crocheting flowers? Maybe it is
Speaker 2: maybe them make them a truck lin Let's find out
Speaker 2: but I just found it a really odd thing to
Speaker 2: crochet flowers for people to buy.
Speaker 1: And do you crochet in general? One double three eight
Speaker 1: eighty two? At the Lost Art I was, And now Rob,
Speaker 1: your favorite is your favorite.
Speaker 2: To crochet is a kid? Because my mum crocheted. Because
Speaker 2: the crochet that's the fairly thick needle, isn't it with
Speaker 2: a little hook on the hook? Yeah? I used to
Speaker 2: do it as a kid.
Speaker 1: So I I Rob has a gift, not a gift,
Speaker 1: because you can't take this away. It's not like a
Speaker 1: pack of the biscuits. This is just a show and
Speaker 1: show it here. Do your crochet one double three eight
Speaker 1: ed two. So my for my significant birth I had recently,
Speaker 1: my then seventeen year old crocheted me that that Rob's
Speaker 1: holding for you. Yeah, okay, well what do you think
Speaker 1: that is? I'm not sure it's there's a head there.
Speaker 1: There's a round, small round ball head. So I'm assuming
Speaker 1: that's your head in a wetex.
Speaker 2: West Coast Eagles colors. Yeah, it's like a Jacket's a
Speaker 2: jacket like a jacket.
Speaker 1: How would you describe it?
Speaker 2: A cape?
Speaker 1: A cake superher and you can see a little goatey.
Speaker 10: Like buzz say, the goatee is I think the defining
Speaker 10: detail on this.
Speaker 1: It's got a very round head. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's entirely accurate. I'll leave that to your comment, Boie,
Speaker 1: but very well done. Yeah, so the jacket comes off,
Speaker 1: you can open the jacket. I'll give you the honest
Speaker 1: mick if that was made for me by Bella. And
Speaker 1: that is a little baby Simon crocheted. A little baby
Speaker 1: crocheted Simon.
Speaker 2: I like the detail. A shorts, T shirt and a towel.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 1: That was the first thing you did to lift the
Speaker 1: T shirt up?
Speaker 2: Why was it? See if you've got a six pack
Speaker 2: and he doesn't, thank you, Rob, Thanks, there's your favorite
Speaker 2: staff member. Yeah. So do people still crochet?
Speaker 1: Let's wind out one level three eighty two and have
Speaker 1: you do you give to people on intersections? Hei, Nicole,
Speaker 1: she's gone. Nicole's gone, Oh, yes, she has gone. Look
Speaker 1: at that. The whole screen's gone blank. Oh we lost
Speaker 1: our lost their tell comms. We'll come back in just
Speaker 1: a moment. It's quarter past eleven. We are going to
Speaker 1: talk to a business owner that's been It would seem
Speaker 1: me systematically targeted by what these days is known as
Speaker 1: a poo jogger.
Speaker 2: Because that's becoming common. Like there's a lot of pooh
Speaker 2: jogger stories that there are raised the head of now
Speaker 2: and that now you were a runner, yes, and what
Speaker 2: a note. And sometimes you do get caught out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but did you find as a as a regular kind
Speaker 2: of runner? Was everything quite regular?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 1: Sometimes you do get caught out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you do get caught out, but like she's done
Speaker 2: it four times, She's been caught out in the same place,
Speaker 2: at the same place at the same time. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: that's not something you had to run a couple of
Speaker 2: blocks to get there.
Speaker 1: You do hope sometimes that you're if you're in Kings Park,
Speaker 1: there's an ablution block nearby you can use. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: down on the foreshore or you know, running along the beach.
Speaker 1: But this person has been caught out systemically at the
Speaker 1: same place. So it's never happened to you never get caught.
Speaker 2: Out, not to the point where.
Speaker 1: You need to go in a public place, in a
Speaker 1: public place like that.
Speaker 2: And it's interesting she chooses the same ramp. Maybe the
Speaker 2: angle was good for yeah, I don't know, but yeah,
Speaker 2: but the vision it's like honestly, and you don't want
Speaker 2: to make light of it, but I take that mat
Speaker 2: It's like watching a pit stop in an F one
Speaker 2: like it's that quick. It's just in go on like
Speaker 2: it's unbelievable. If you put a clock on it, it wouldn't
Speaker 2: be more than three seconds. Yeah, okay, really well done.
Speaker 1: I knew you'd have a different take on it. We'll
Speaker 1: come back in just a moment. Of folks would love
Speaker 1: you to ring in, but just at the moment you can't.
Speaker 1: So we've have a little disagreement with their telecommunication system.
Speaker 1: So we'll take your cause in just a moment. The
Speaker 1: beautiful mind of Mick Corlis will come back in just
Speaker 1: a moment. Seventeen past eleven. Do you crochet? Have you
Speaker 1: ever purchased some crocheted flowers?
Speaker 2: And in the street.
Speaker 1: I'll come back it said, David says, Simon. Your show
Speaker 1: is so much better when Mickey's on. Thanks Simon, David,
Speaker 1: there's no need for that one numble three. Ady steven says,
Speaker 1: so Mick hasn't got a job and gives it gives
Speaker 1: a fifty a way.
Speaker 2: Wow, I didn't I didn't know it was in the
Speaker 2: glove box and I don't know how long would have
Speaker 2: been there for, and chances something's going to break it
Speaker 2: and I can't knock it off. I wouldn't have done anyway,
Speaker 2: So if I only gave it away because I didn't know.
Speaker 1: It was there, we have set and Barclay a task.
Speaker 1: You know, the other week you were talking about court
Speaker 1: sketches and how you can't take photographs of people. So
Speaker 1: Anna has taken a photograph of you. Yeah, and there's
Speaker 1: your two court sketches, one looking happy like you've had
Speaker 1: a successful fought outcome and the other one you love.
Speaker 1: One of the staff from Mad Max, one of the
Speaker 1: one of the guys from Mad Max.
Speaker 2: That's very fun, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Wow, how clever is Ai? That's great? Yeah.
Speaker 1: So we'll try and try and get those published at
Speaker 1: some point. One double three, eight auty two? Do you crochet?
Speaker 1: Do you have you ever bought any crocheted flowers? Love
Speaker 1: to hear from you today, Maurice says, can you let
Speaker 1: me know which corner you gave the money on? As
Speaker 1: I may do the same, says Marie. It's just on
Speaker 1: the as you turn right to go across the traffic bridge. Marie,
Speaker 1: you have a new bridge across the trompation to turn right.
Speaker 1: Thanks this one here from Ryan. I know someone who
Speaker 1: who got three thousand dollars through pay ID from a
Speaker 1: drive while they're sitting at the lights speaking. That's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Three grand wow.
Speaker 1: Patrick says sorry that Mick had to suffer the Bible
Speaker 1: ram when he gave the bloke the fifty. I'll try
Speaker 1: to redeem the integrity of the good Book and quote
Speaker 1: Proverbs twenty one thirteen, which says whoso stoppeth this is
Speaker 1: at the cry of the poor, he also shall cry
Speaker 1: himself that shall not be heard, says Paddy from Bayford.
Speaker 1: Mick will be heard in his hour of need. Should
Speaker 1: one come? Amen, Thank you, says past the Paddy.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Patty.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good, isn't it. We would love to hear
Speaker 1: from you. One double three eight eighty two? Have you
Speaker 1: bought some crochet flowers? Do you crochet? I reckon it
Speaker 1: has been doing the rounds among younger people, Yes, young
Speaker 1: young women or my.
Speaker 2: Because why would that comeback? Why would that happen? Yeah,
Speaker 2: that just sounds a really odd thing for people to
Speaker 2: start crocheting, don't you.
Speaker 1: Think I do? Yes, but I can't speak for my
Speaker 1: daughter and her friend.
Speaker 2: No, but it's just a really odd thing. But look
Speaker 2: good on them. Good on them.
Speaker 1: Now, we've we used.
Speaker 2: To do mccrme when we were kids, and we used
Speaker 2: to make MCCRMEI things it used to hang pots in. Yeah, mccrme.
Speaker 30: Hang.
Speaker 1: We used to be at home or at school. I
Speaker 1: think at school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you made to do it at school, were
Speaker 2: you. You wouldn't do it voluntarily, would you. I didn't mind it.
Speaker 2: I found it quite relaxing.
Speaker 1: Well that might be why they crochet as well.
Speaker 2: Yes, good point.
Speaker 1: One, double three eight daddy two. Now we're a little
Speaker 1: mistified as to why someone would exercise their ablutions at
Speaker 1: a business on a regular basis. Malita Marky is the
Speaker 1: CEO of the Asbestos Diseases Society of Australia. H'm Malita.
Speaker 1: It is Simon and Mick.
Speaker 11: How are you hi, guys, I'm well, thank you.
Speaker 1: Now this is for those people who haven't seen the story,
Speaker 1: haven't seen the haven't seen the video. Can you explain
Speaker 1: it to us in your words?
Speaker 11: Yes, Look, it's a concerning issue.
Speaker 29: As you know.
Speaker 11: The Expective Disease Society has been around for fifty years
Speaker 11: supporting people exposed to asbestas and other dust diseases, and
Speaker 11: we recently expanded our services to offer a GP Family
Speaker 11: and Workers Clinic at our premises to support the community
Speaker 11: on a broader basis. And since December last year, we've
Speaker 11: had a jogger unfortunately use the rear of our office
Speaker 11: as their toilet as they're jogging along. So we've had
Speaker 11: four incidences of this over the last six months, and
Speaker 11: we became very concerned for the person's health and we
Speaker 11: wanted to reach out, and that's why we shared the
Speaker 11: footage to sort of encourage the person to come and
Speaker 11: see our GPS and get some support of their issue,
Speaker 11: because we've investigated it and it is a concerning matter,
Speaker 11: particularly on a hygiene basis and into health issue of
Speaker 11: the person who's gout issues. So we'd really like to help.
Speaker 1: And that is that is very indicative and reflective of
Speaker 1: your organization, Leada. You care for people and people's health.
Speaker 1: Is it the same definitely the same person. Is it
Speaker 1: a female, It.
Speaker 11: Is a It is a female. And we've had a
Speaker 11: number of joggers bring our clinic really upset about it
Speaker 11: because they feel it damages their reputation as the jogging community,
Speaker 11: and they have identified but they haven't given us a
Speaker 11: person's name, but they've said they've seen the person on
Speaker 11: their jogging.
Speaker 2: Roots, Melida, Because are you kind of being too kind?
Speaker 2: Like do you think that that person does need help
Speaker 2: or they just have to go and just their their
Speaker 2: body clock. That's that kind of that's when it kicks in.
Speaker 11: Well, look, well, the reason I feel it is a
Speaker 11: cry for help is because we've got these giant cameras there.
Speaker 11: They're obvious, and so I'm wondering. And they've also selected
Speaker 11: to do this at the Optomics risk clinics, so they're picking.
Speaker 11: It's not just us on different days, she's targeting different
Speaker 11: health organizations. So I do feel potentially maybe it is
Speaker 11: a cry for help. I can't believe that she wouldn't
Speaker 11: have seen the cameras, so from that perspective, but yes,
Speaker 11: you know, I am being a little bit kind because
Speaker 11: I also have to be firm in concern from my
Speaker 11: own workers, my staff who has come to work in
Speaker 11: the morning and realize that that evolution is there on
Speaker 11: the disabled ramp for our disabled clients to access the building,
Speaker 11: and then they've got to call out a buy hazard
Speaker 11: firm to come and clean it up because it is
Speaker 11: a buyer hazard under the Health Act, that person can
Speaker 11: be charged. So yeah, so it is a serious hygiene
Speaker 11: and health issue for the community and for other people
Speaker 11: that might come across it in other areas. That shows
Speaker 11: it because you know, as someone pointed out, if you're
Speaker 11: going to do a jogging route, you could pick it
Speaker 11: where all the VP's and all the partick health toilets are.
Speaker 16: On your room.
Speaker 1: Absolutely you can. And that's what that's what a lot
Speaker 1: of joggers do, Blinda. Is it true, There's a couple
Speaker 1: of things for me. Is the person running fast in
Speaker 1: other words, are they a runner or just a recreational jogger?
Speaker 1: And is it true that she is stopping her watch
Speaker 1: each time she rolls up.
Speaker 11: Yes, and that's what's been that's what's highlighted to us
Speaker 11: around the OCD mental health issue that they actually stop
Speaker 11: so they're not interfering with their timing as they're timing
Speaker 11: their route. So that was something that was concerning to
Speaker 11: our GPS looking at that picture. And also the fact
Speaker 11: of the actual ablution. It's not a healthy type of one,
Speaker 11: and that indicates gut issues and often runners have knee issues,
Speaker 11: angle issues, so they could be taking anti inflammatories. So
Speaker 11: we feel that we want to reach out, and the
Speaker 11: jogging community has said, look, we're going to encourage. When
Speaker 11: we see it, it gets some help because it ruins
Speaker 11: their reputation. Imagine people looking.
Speaker 16: At joggers like this.
Speaker 11: It's really unfortunate for that community.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it is, no doubt. All right, Hey Melida,
Speaker 1: thank you and keep up the good work with your
Speaker 1: day job too, lady, do an amazing, amazing work helping
Speaker 1: people out.
Speaker 11: Thanks me, Leida, Pleasure Simon, thanks for the call.
Speaker 1: Thank you Leader Marquis so taking pretty seriously but also
Speaker 1: showing some humanity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it is.
Speaker 1: It's you and I sometimes joke about joggers who jog
Speaker 1: at the traffic lights and like to turn their watch
Speaker 1: off and on.
Speaker 2: Well, os Rava, do you think she was turning the
Speaker 2: watch on? Like was she? Because as I said before,
Speaker 2: it's very fast, she's stopping start stops timing the ablution
Speaker 2: B because it's very it's very neat, and it's just
Speaker 2: I thought we had that in quite a grown up
Speaker 2: fashion until you started doing time in the abolution. You
Speaker 2: take the interview, but no it is. It's it's an
Speaker 2: odd one. It's an odd one.
Speaker 1: Doing it elsewhere, doing other places. I reckon, it's a
Speaker 1: jogger is getting caught out. Got a regular running route
Speaker 1: and getting caught out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what's what I think it is. Because if
Speaker 2: he's turning a watch on and off, you're a serious jogger. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you do want to upset the Strava, which is the stats. Yeah,
Speaker 2: But nice of the leader to say it seriously, and
Speaker 2: it is good. And if the lady does have problems,
Speaker 2: I hope she gets them sorted out.
Speaker 1: And I think if if we thought that every person
Speaker 1: who turned off their watch, who was jogging every time
Speaker 1: they came to a stand still had O c D,
Speaker 1: and then all of them would have got them because
Speaker 1: they all do. We all do because we care about.
Speaker 2: Our times, you all do, and their diaries correct, yeah,
Speaker 2: and your heart rate monitors and heart rate all those things,
Speaker 2: and that's why we have success Minael. Correct.
Speaker 1: That's where you're just wandering around exactly, wandering around and your.
Speaker 2: Double plug exactly, Yeah, with nothing to offer.
Speaker 1: Has it been cold enough yet for you to tuck
Speaker 1: your single into your underpants?
Speaker 2: Are getting there? Getting there? But not. Market has been
Speaker 2: pretty mild, so we haven't actually had the really cold
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's still being warms. It's about eleven. If you
Speaker 1: like the phone, mit Colers, you can get a Wayne.
Speaker 31: Or shall I say the Colossal? They say again, the
Speaker 31: colossal colin. I believe that he's actually bigger on the inside.
Speaker 16: Is that right?
Speaker 1: Well, like a tadas.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you mean.
Speaker 31: I'll just bring it up, mate. You want might want
Speaker 31: to keep that fifty bucks. I believe it's actually illegal
Speaker 31: to put your arm out of the window.
Speaker 29: At the travel lights.
Speaker 2: Is it really?
Speaker 31: You could cover fine? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Wow, I hope you do that. You hope you hope
Speaker 2: I get a fine?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I hope. I hope it's on.
Speaker 4: No, I don't want you to get fine.
Speaker 2: I mention if you got fifty, you get a Bible rante.
Speaker 1: No, that's a good day, isn't it?
Speaker 22: Thanks?
Speaker 1: Wayne? Good for on your mate. How about eleven? Hello, Jillian, Oh,
Speaker 1: good morning.
Speaker 4: I'm listening to this program for over thirty years. Love it.
Speaker 4: But all your people that work on the radios, so
Speaker 4: she should get out and see families and your grandparents
Speaker 4: and your mothers and fathers and your children. Flowers have
Speaker 4: been crow shaded for many years. They sell them in
Speaker 4: most of the florist shops, so you must go to
Speaker 4: the shop. Do you ever go and see your grandmother
Speaker 4: or your mother or anyone that's in nursing homes. They
Speaker 4: all crowsher beautiful bedspreads everything and all the flowers. The
Speaker 4: flowers are very hard to scrosso. I have her twenty
Speaker 4: five year old engineered granddaughter who lives in Sydney. She
Speaker 4: grew out crosses them and you should have a look
Speaker 4: at what's going on in the world other than just
Speaker 4: being on the radio.
Speaker 2: Wow, thanks you, sir. So the crocheted flowers have been
Speaker 2: around for a long time, because that was the first
Speaker 2: time I've seen.
Speaker 24: Them go into.
Speaker 4: Wood Foal shopping center, not the big one, the big
Speaker 4: one going there, going there opposite walls, and there's on
Speaker 4: the corner there there's a florish shop. They've got hundreds
Speaker 4: of them there there all the time, and they've been
Speaker 4: there for years and years and years. One of my
Speaker 4: granddaughters brought me one well a few years ago, and
Speaker 4: now I've got that in my house and they're beautiful.
Speaker 4: They are very hard to make why don't you all
Speaker 4: get to with your grandparents and try doing some of
Speaker 4: these things out out of your line radio.
Speaker 1: All right, Gillian, you know you know why I knew
Speaker 1: whit was Whitford's jillion, because they get out in the world.
Speaker 1: We'll come back in just a moment.
Speaker 10: Feeding a track broken down in a Bateman the quanan
Speaker 10: a northbound exits a Leech Highway or west found that
Speaker 10: left turning lane blocks with the motorists outside of the
Speaker 10: vehicle otherwise moving well and Mitchell Quanana Graham Farmer and
Speaker 10: the tunnel Row Highway bit slow southbounds at the bypass
Speaker 10: in Hazelmere.
Speaker 1: I'm Rob Beaver on Perth Traffic Leader six PR twenty
Speaker 1: four minutes to midday chet GPT has done a couple
Speaker 1: of court sketches of myself there, Mick, can you can
Speaker 1: you describe them to.
Speaker 2: A happy one, happy one who looked like Lockie read
Speaker 2: but you've got your prison green T shirt on, which
Speaker 2: is good, and then the sad one.
Speaker 32: I don't know who you look like my dad? You
Speaker 32: look like your dad, dude, my late dad. Yeah, Well
Speaker 32: there you go. It's you look pretty miserable. It's quite bizarre,
Speaker 32: but the sad one. I think the sad one looks
Speaker 32: more like both of us looks like us, but the
Speaker 32: happy one doesn't look like it, maybe because they're both miserable.
Speaker 1: Hello LOCKI, Hello Loki if you're listening some text lines
Speaker 1: coming to the text messages. Hello Jess, Jess is only
Speaker 1: thirty five mix, he says, I crochet blankets for the kids.
Speaker 1: My partner bought me some absolutely beautiful flowers which dried preserved,
Speaker 1: and that had a few cratio flowers in amongst them.
Speaker 1: They are beautiful and still as the good as the
Speaker 1: day I got them two years ago. Thank you. There's
Speaker 1: a husband and wife team on the corner of one
Speaker 1: of a road and hepburn ab begging for money six
Speaker 1: days a week, fifty two weeks of years, says John.
Speaker 1: Thank you. John. Don't let Mick out in the world
Speaker 1: anymore than he's actually is at the moment, says Matt.
Speaker 1: And get out in the world, Simon, there's one of our.
Speaker 2: You do need to get out more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was good.
Speaker 2: To it like that.
Speaker 1: Two and a half minutes to midday, Hello Jenny him.
Speaker 24: Yeah, I knit so Kroscher and Vansian Kracher. So I
Speaker 24: do a lot. I was talking of a child by
Speaker 24: my late month.
Speaker 1: What was the last one, Jenny.
Speaker 24: Vanisian very chap?
Speaker 2: What's that?
Speaker 24: You do it? On one needle? You pick up all
Speaker 24: the skippers in the cast them off, pick them up
Speaker 24: and crust them off.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: My daughter Bella Jenny she reckons crow shay is easy
Speaker 1: and knitting. It's a little more forgiving. Would that be right?
Speaker 24: Well it is because if you make a mistake, you
Speaker 24: under the rail.
Speaker 1: You need Yeah, yeah, right, thanks Jenny, well done. Passed
Speaker 1: on by a mum.
Speaker 2: Have you passed it on to Jenny? Have you passed
Speaker 2: it on to anyone?
Speaker 20: Yeah?
Speaker 24: I passed it on to my children on seventy three,
Speaker 24: both Croatia.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, that's cool, isn't it good? What do you
Speaker 1: pass on to your boys?
Speaker 2: Not a lot? I probably should, I probably should pass
Speaker 2: something on. What have you passed on? It's not the
Speaker 2: middle name?
Speaker 1: I reckon? No, no, I forgot about it. I did forget.
Speaker 1: Listens if you are not if you didn't catch meck
Speaker 1: and I the other week we've been we've had Robert
Speaker 1: in our names, back to the eleven the Battle of
Speaker 1: Hastings and I forgot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't pass that on. No, no, forgot one job
Speaker 2: forgot I reckon, I didn't pass it on necessarily because
Speaker 2: he's actually better than me. Is there something you have
Speaker 2: passed on? He's pretty good on guitar, and you much
Speaker 2: much money passed it on?
Speaker 22: Well?
Speaker 1: He saw he always bought him guitars around me, you know,
Speaker 1: when we were playing. But he's twenty five thousand times
Speaker 1: better than runner, which wouldn't be hard.
Speaker 2: I think you're being a bit harsh in yourself, Simon.
Speaker 2: More stuff. I've got more expensive and better guitars than thing,
Speaker 2: Isn't it sucked in great ide sitting around even smash
Speaker 2: Stavo renting and I've got n guitars in the house.
Speaker 2: That's right?
Speaker 1: How can i vic?
Speaker 9: Yeah? Good aye? Simone? Talking about con jobs in the
Speaker 9: shopping center down south. I'm used to people asking me
Speaker 9: for smokes and money and that. But the bloke came
Speaker 9: up to me and he shid, hey, I've got a
Speaker 9: piece of paper for you. This is unusual. And when
Speaker 9: I undid it, it said, I'm mute. I can't read
Speaker 9: or write. Can you give me five dollars?
Speaker 1: Oh that's a new one.
Speaker 2: That is a new one.
Speaker 9: That was a good one I thought whispering, did you.
Speaker 2: Take did he take the piece of paper back?
Speaker 9: Yeah, wow, we've probably got I don't know who wrote it,
Speaker 9: but he didn't. He was telling the truth.
Speaker 2: Yeah where was it mate? Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 9: That might have been that amused people asking me for
Speaker 9: smokes and asking me for the light and ask me
Speaker 9: for money. But when it's bogain to meet the page
Speaker 9: to pay board? Would this is good?
Speaker 1: It's good? Yeah? Nine for one night. We were going
Speaker 1: to go down there one day. We were in like
Speaker 1: this winter. It was too hot.
Speaker 2: In winter when it's a bit cooler, it's too hot. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well we can go go in winter. What were you
Speaker 2: doing down in Fremantle, that's outside of your little little
Speaker 2: triangle of influence. I was sitting down to my mother. Oh, yes,
Speaker 2: she's down in North Cougie.
Speaker 1: Yeah you do, Ben, Gillian said, you and I need
Speaker 1: to get out of the well. Just let the point out.
Speaker 1: We do visit our mothers, don't we.
Speaker 2: We do visit mothers. Y Yeah, yeah, I don't spend
Speaker 2: all day in here. You certainly don't know. I don't
Speaker 2: you've got any job applications in at the moment. No,
Speaker 2: not at the moment. I need to get back onto
Speaker 2: that with a couple up something that looks appere I
Speaker 2: need to get back on to earning a living. How
Speaker 2: out bits of paper?
Speaker 31: Get a hew?
Speaker 1: You going, simon good Nicole.
Speaker 12: I actually visited a shopping center where we had a
Speaker 12: a homeless man with two dogs sitting outside the shopping
Speaker 12: center asking for you know, food or donations, and being
Speaker 12: a huge animal lover, I decided to go in and
Speaker 12: buy some dog food for the dogs.
Speaker 20: And when he.
Speaker 12: Bought the dog food, bought premium dog food actually in
Speaker 12: a bag of smackos and and took it out to
Speaker 12: him and said hello, and said I've bought these for
Speaker 12: your dogs. And he just looked at it and said, oh,
Speaker 12: that's very kind of you. But they can't actually eat that,
Speaker 12: because you know, they're just pretty bussy. But I don't
Speaker 12: like that, and spacos are bad for them. Do you
Speaker 12: do you think I could have their receipt. I'll take
Speaker 12: it back in for a ring fund and I'll get
Speaker 12: them what they can eat. And of course, you know,
Speaker 12: straight away I realized it that was a bit of
Speaker 12: a skin going on. Well, I'd already bought the stuff,
Speaker 12: so I ended up taking it back in and I said, well,
Speaker 12: what will you dogs eat because I will go back
Speaker 12: in and swap it.
Speaker 2: Over for you.
Speaker 12: He stumbled a little bit and wasn't really quite sure
Speaker 12: what to say. And I went back in and did
Speaker 12: change the dog food over and randomly bought a few
Speaker 12: other things and decided to open up the packets of
Speaker 12: dog food and treats so that he couldn't take them
Speaker 12: back and refund them and kept the receipt and walked off.
Speaker 7: But he wasn't happy.
Speaker 2: So remind me, I never asked you for money. That's thanks,
Speaker 2: I'd be Look, and I don't want to make light
Speaker 2: of this because there's a lot of people that are
Speaker 2: doing it tough. But there's an amazing I know what
Speaker 2: the correlation is, but the number of people that actually
Speaker 2: have a sit with a dog because people like Nicole,
Speaker 2: you kind of gives you that extra element of emotional
Speaker 2: connection when there's the guy with the dog, he's looking
Speaker 2: after his dog so and it's quite amazing, especially if
Speaker 2: a seas. I've seen so many sit there with a dog,
Speaker 2: and I've actually seen people with a toy stuff dog
Speaker 2: that have sat on their little blanket with them. Are
Speaker 2: you sure yep. Absolutely, I've seen that firsthand, like sitting
Speaker 2: with the stuff dog, because they know that that if
Speaker 2: you've got a dog, that people are more inclined to
Speaker 2: gup and give them stuff.
Speaker 1: As a market Yeah, I bought it as a stuff dog.
Speaker 1: Thank you to Cole the Jeff oh Hi, Simon, Mateo, Mick.
Speaker 33: I met someone the other He's actually a business colleague
Speaker 33: that knows you. His name's Jose. He is at the
Speaker 33: Scarborough Lifesaving Club. He's in his seventies. He does skiing
Speaker 33: on ski paddles.
Speaker 7: Those of state. It's won a lot of state trophies
Speaker 7: than that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 33: Yeah, I don't want to do business. I said, I
Speaker 33: don't want to do business with you anymore. My story,
Speaker 33: my story, I won't mentioned where it is. Well, it
Speaker 33: was at a traffic light and I sort of had
Speaker 33: twenty dollars and I waved it to the guy and
Speaker 33: he came across it about five cars down. He ran across,
Speaker 33: ran across, and I says, oh yeah. He goes, oh yeah,
Speaker 33: thank you, I said. I said, I'm actually looking for
Speaker 33: some labor. I'm looking for some laborers.
Speaker 7: You're interested in your job?
Speaker 6: Mate?
Speaker 7: He turned around.
Speaker 33: He says, nah, can't do that, mate, I said, why not?
Speaker 6: He says, nah, nah, I can't do that.
Speaker 33: I said, it's a pretty well paid job. You know
Speaker 33: I did.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 33: I won't tell him all about it.
Speaker 7: You know what I did?
Speaker 33: I said, I wound the window up and I waved
Speaker 33: the twenty bucks and and then I drove off.
Speaker 2: He didn't end up giving it to him.
Speaker 33: No, well should I because he didn't want a job.
Speaker 7: Is that a bit cruel?
Speaker 1: Don't know. I mean I haven't given money out for
Speaker 1: a while because I have I haven't heard all the
Speaker 1: stories on six PR about maybe they're part of a
Speaker 1: you know, drop off, drop down Cartelli kind of organization.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I might be wrong in doing that. Thanks, Jeff.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're cruel. Sometimes you don't always get
Speaker 1: our talk about topics right. But that's hardly a crime,
Speaker 1: that's it happens in that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But it's an interesting because I mean, it's most
Speaker 2: basically think, yep, if the bloke's doing that because he
Speaker 2: hasn't got a job, if you give him a job,
Speaker 2: that solves that problem. But you don't know what he's
Speaker 2: got gone on as well.
Speaker 1: You know that's true.
Speaker 34: Get a Allison, Good morning guys. Tat you were talking
Speaker 34: about crocheting before.
Speaker 15: My nan.
Speaker 34: Rustless soul. She's passed, but she crocheted all these blankets
Speaker 34: for all of her grandchildren, and mine is starting to
Speaker 34: unravel and I don't I don't know how to crochet
Speaker 34: to fix it. So I was just wondering if there
Speaker 34: was anybody out there that might be able to.
Speaker 12: Help me out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, up for yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a really good question.
Speaker 1: My little baby, Simon's a little but draggoned, isn't.
Speaker 2: It's a bit of dragon. But has I started unraveling
Speaker 2: yet though? So no, because yeah, I think Jillian might
Speaker 2: be able to help with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to stop that unraveling, Allison, stay well, I'll put
Speaker 1: you back to Sean and to Anne and we'll see
Speaker 1: if someone can help. Can anyone to help Allison tidy
Speaker 1: up what is obviously important keepsakes in crocheting starting to unravel.
Speaker 1: Let me know if you can help, and we'll see
Speaker 1: if he can hook you guys up safely, of course.
Speaker 1: Thirteen and a half minutes to midday, meet Collas is
Speaker 1: with us back in a second. Yeah, thanks for listening,
Speaker 1: and I'm Simon Barman. I met Collis is with us today.
Speaker 1: Mick has given a fifty dollars note to a bloke
Speaker 1: on an intersection near the Fremantle railway bridge and has
Speaker 1: copped the biblical rant and not a lot of appreciation.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, and I didn't know it was going to
Speaker 2: be a fifty. I thought, if I find somebney in
Speaker 2: that glob box, I'll give it to him. So I
Speaker 2: committed to myself. I thought, I saw the fifty, I thought,
Speaker 2: I don't want to give you.
Speaker 1: What if you'd stop the car, turn the ignition off
Speaker 1: and throwing the tar paul and back and showing all
Speaker 1: that stuff that's in the tray.
Speaker 2: And giving him something of that? He said, he can
Speaker 2: have this call of rope, Yeah, these chains, Yeah, there's
Speaker 2: moldy straps, this sock. You're going to have a mosquito
Speaker 2: swarm exactly one. Level three two is still to come
Speaker 2: off up on the show. What will Mark and from
Speaker 2: the City of Sterling do with east scooters given the
Speaker 2: city a perth have picked theirs up today? What do
Speaker 2: you mean pick them up?
Speaker 1: They picked them up. There's a fatality last Saturday, yes,
Speaker 1: involving allegedly and any bread person knocking a bloke over
Speaker 1: on the on the footpath City of Perth picked them
Speaker 1: up today, so they're getting rid of them temporarily until
Speaker 1: there's an investigation as to what actually happens.
Speaker 2: So they're taking all the EA scooters off the street, the.
Speaker 1: Purple and the orange ones.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that happened this morning, has been happening this morning.
Speaker 1: So they Perth are saying it's out of respect for
Speaker 1: the person passing, respect for the family. But I would
Speaker 1: imagine too there's some legal implications around people getting on
Speaker 1: them when they've had some drinks. Tragic and they can't
Speaker 1: these ones they're using, like can't keep the speed down.
Speaker 1: The ten ks now they're all governed to twenty five.
Speaker 1: So if you're on a foot crowded footpath and the CBD,
Speaker 1: that's okay. On roop side Drive, yeah, but it's okay
Speaker 1: Harrison Island, but it's not okay in the middle of
Speaker 1: the GEO probably target it, So I think they do
Speaker 1: in some places. Yeah, I think. I think we had
Speaker 1: some correspondent from someone in Rockingham that says that if
Speaker 1: you're on the footpaths ten and then we can do
Speaker 1: twenty five.
Speaker 2: We were on we went for the Rugby World Cup,
Speaker 2: and that's sometimes you just you're really slow and you think,
Speaker 2: go why can't I go? And then you get pats
Speaker 2: a certain zone. Then it goes again. So with this,
Speaker 2: where was that? That was in summary in France? I
Speaker 2: can't remember him? Where?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Summary in France over the front.
Speaker 1: Yeah one Duble three eight e two is the phone number,
Speaker 1: flight to phone Mick, Mick on my myself, you can.
Speaker 1: We've had a favorite correspondence on crocheting, Mick. That's a
Speaker 1: crocheted poppies are used on Anzac Day and Remembrance Day. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I haven't seen those before, so not you know,
Speaker 1: Mick and I don't know everything and always happy to
Speaker 1: be correct.
Speaker 2: Because you need to get out of it more, Simon,
Speaker 2: get out in the world.
Speaker 1: I'll just talk on the radio of me and visit
Speaker 1: my mum in the nursing home. Matt says, does Sharon
Speaker 1: know you gave her fifty away?
Speaker 2: I told her yesterday the same story and she said, yeah,
Speaker 2: that was her fifty dollars, but she'd seen that in there,
Speaker 2: but she'd forgot that was there as well. So that
Speaker 2: the fact that we didn't know we had it there
Speaker 2: that I was okay to lose it because I didn't
Speaker 2: know I was there anyway. It would have been a
Speaker 2: nice bonus if I went up to McDonald's or something
Speaker 2: and thought, oh, geez, oh, here we go. But yeah,
Speaker 2: so I did tell her that, and she was okay
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 1: Okay, my little one. She's nine, and she sat in
Speaker 1: my passenger seat of my car a lot over the
Speaker 1: last eight or nine years, and she it's been the
Speaker 1: same car. And she puts her treasures in the global box.
Speaker 1: She's got a little jewels, dead starfish right, there's a
Speaker 1: bone in there, which I think is from a chicken.
Speaker 1: All the stuff she finds on the beach, there's rocks,
Speaker 1: the shells, there's a crab pincher, nice pincer.
Speaker 2: Some heirloom we call that.
Speaker 6: Ye.
Speaker 2: I just saw on the news just then that Craig Bellamy,
Speaker 2: who's the Melbourne Storm coach, has just signed on for
Speaker 2: his twenty fourth straight season as a coach of a
Speaker 2: first Premier team. That's amazing. Is there is there a
Speaker 2: longer serving How long did she was around for a while?
Speaker 1: I think she was twenty five or twenty seven years.
Speaker 2: It's amazing and be successful, which is incredible.
Speaker 1: Ye, that's soccer's on tonight Australia versus Japan in Perth.
Speaker 1: Will you watch that?
Speaker 2: Is it the soccer rous?
Speaker 1: Yes, it's a qualifier? Is it for you today? Twenty
Speaker 1: next year?
Speaker 2: Off the World Cup? Is it real? Yeah? Where are
Speaker 2: we aut with that? We've got to win or is
Speaker 2: it just party?
Speaker 1: We do have to win?
Speaker 2: Yes, like if we we're in. If we lose, we're
Speaker 2: out or no there's still some more to come on. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: but we are winning. Be nice and then the Origins
Speaker 2: coming up as well in Perth. In I think it
Speaker 2: might be next week actually next Wednesday night?
Speaker 1: How good?
Speaker 2: Yeah, very good? I think it is it?
Speaker 1: Next week you're going to the bare knuckle boxing fighting champ.
Speaker 2: I don't like that. And because I don't like I
Speaker 2: don't like violence. I don't like seeing it. I don't
Speaker 2: like having it inflicted on me. So no, I don't
Speaker 2: like it. But there's obviously a market for it. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I find that a very odd thing. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm with the people that are saying we probably shouldn't
Speaker 2: be doing it. And if it goes underground, let it
Speaker 2: go underground. I don't think it should be made like
Speaker 2: a mainstream thing. It's like that, you know, that run
Speaker 2: it straight thing now that where that kid died the
Speaker 2: other week where people just run into each other at
Speaker 2: a manly regular league game in Sydney to the day
Speaker 2: people out the back on the biers running down a hill,
Speaker 2: just running into each other and knocking people out, and
Speaker 2: you're thinking, you know, it's just that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: I can't get my head around how people find that.
Speaker 1: Probably with you there, Mick, Kevin Sheety co sessing them
Speaker 1: for twenty seven years. Wow, four premierships? Ye are really
Speaker 1: goodn't he really impressive? Sheet?
Speaker 2: Well, probably Bellamy's probably. I don't have any discids. I
Speaker 2: know they lost three or two because the salary cap issue,
Speaker 2: but they've been consistent. I think I don't know how
Speaker 2: we'd I think it'd be even more successful than Cheety
Speaker 2: Craig Bellony.
Speaker 1: Just it's more successful than Wayne Bennett.
Speaker 2: Because Wayne, why was it the Broncos for a while,
Speaker 2: But it wasn't there for I don't think it's there
Speaker 2: for twenty four years't know how long he is it
Speaker 2: the Broncos for. But I just find that longevity in
Speaker 2: a sport like that at that top level. That's just
Speaker 2: is incredible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a Graham, Good Berners guys.
Speaker 35: A quick story on the Blakes were collecting, rattling their
Speaker 35: tins and stuff. I lived down bull Creek Way and
Speaker 35: he was quite he was quite often outside of the
Speaker 35: shobbage and a shaking his tin. And I walked past
Speaker 35: him one day and I thought, well, I won't give
Speaker 35: him money. But I went back to the car and
Speaker 35: I got on an apple out of the boot and
Speaker 35: I went around and I said, yeah, I haven't got
Speaker 35: any money, but what a bit you have the apple?
Speaker 35: And you said, what the ef am I going to
Speaker 35: do with that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're getting a few a bit of thanks Graham,
Speaker 2: getting a bit of correspondence on that people offering alternate
Speaker 2: turn it into money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't go down that well.
Speaker 2: It would appear, no, no, because yeah, I've always thought
Speaker 2: about you just buying buy a matter sandwich or something
Speaker 2: or other. I haven't done that either, but I'd probably
Speaker 2: rather that because I think people think if I'm giving
Speaker 2: him money, they're either going to go by beers or
Speaker 2: drugs or do something with it. But if you've given
Speaker 2: him something to eat, well that's for them kind of thing.
Speaker 2: So I'm with people, happy to give them food.
Speaker 1: But yeah, obviously, yeah, and it'll mix's gonna leave us
Speaker 1: in just a second, three and a half minutes to twelve.
Speaker 1: If you've got any nice stories about giving money or
Speaker 1: alternatives to people who are begging, let us know. After
Speaker 1: Mick leaves. It's a couple of three minutes to midday
Speaker 1: back in a second. Craig Bellamy has won three Premierships
Speaker 1: as head coach of the Melbourne Storm and he's just
Speaker 1: signed up for his twenty eighth year, twenty fourth year,
Speaker 1: twenty four Wayne Bennett seven n RL apprenticeships with the Bronx.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in twenty five years at the Broncos.
Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing, unbelievable. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't think we'll see that anymore once these guys
Speaker 2: are gone. I just don't think we'll see that.
Speaker 1: Yeah again, different sport, that sport coming to Perth. It's
Speaker 1: been Meninga being heavily backed in to be there.
Speaker 2: Yes, it hasn't been officially anounce yet, has it president
Speaker 2: that he's demand.
Speaker 1: But if you, we know you haven't struggling to find
Speaker 1: a job, and if you did have to begabo, what
Speaker 1: intersection would we find you at West Coast Highway. Probably
Speaker 1: the scar of Beach Road is pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah he's probably there.
Speaker 1: Is he all right?
Speaker 2: Come?
Speaker 1: So Gooday, see you mate. The beautiful mind of Mick Collis.
Speaker 22: How good.
Speaker 1: We'd ucky to have him. He'll be back with us
Speaker 1: next week. I'm Simon Beaumont. Midday. Stay listening to per today.
Speaker 1: How good? Here until one o'clock today, Olie Peterson, we'll
Speaker 1: join us a little later on. I'll bring you up
Speaker 1: to date with our poll question today, which we asked
Speaker 1: at nine o'clock, a concern with judicial centences at the moment,
Speaker 1: given what we heard yesterday three years and two months
Speaker 1: for the minor am I nor involved in the crash
Speaker 1: that killed Nick Campo. I'll bring up today with our
Speaker 1: poll in a justice second and we're going to catch
Speaker 1: up with Marko. And in just a moment this city
Speaker 1: was sterling mayor what will he do with eastcooters given
Speaker 1: that the City of Perth have started picking theirs up today.
Speaker 1: So the orange ones, which are Neuron Mobility, are being
Speaker 1: picked up by Neuron and the purple ones are being
Speaker 1: picked up by Beam. That is suspension of the contract.
Speaker 1: Spoke to Bruce Reynolds today, the Deputy mayor of the
Speaker 1: City of Perth, and he says it's out of respect
Speaker 1: for the family of the deceased, but they will cease
Speaker 1: operations for a while. We'll find out what city' stilling
Speaker 1: are going to do. Because there are a number of
Speaker 1: councils that have high scooters Bumbray, Bustleton, Rockingham, Frio Geraldon
Speaker 1: to name but a few, Albany and Calgily you have
Speaker 1: receised their operations. We'll talk to Marking just a moment
Speaker 1: after twelve fifteen today Darren Sargent will join us our
Speaker 1: resident podiatus here on Perth today. So have you got
Speaker 1: any foot problems or I want to have a chat
Speaker 1: to Sarge. Please do one double three A two is
Speaker 1: the phone number and Nichols Niche will join us after
Speaker 1: twelve thirty is the sentencing from our judiciary to lenient
Speaker 1: in your opinion. The yeses are fifty six and the
Speaker 1: nose a nine. Will keep you up to dated with
Speaker 1: that as we go. And Dan sent me a really
Speaker 1: good message about the qualification of the Soccreos in the
Speaker 1: campaign to get into the World Cup next year. Thanks Dan,
Speaker 1: I'll read that out in just a moment. Stay listening
Speaker 1: if you want to know where Australia is in terms
Speaker 1: of qualification. The big game against Japan is tonight. Is
Speaker 1: tonight off the stadium. Now you would have heard Holly
Speaker 1: Edwards Smith's news report about a boost of funding to
Speaker 1: football to soccer, and Holly Edward Smith joins us now
Speaker 1: from six PR newsim Goday. Holly, good afternoon, and so
Speaker 1: just to reiterate, that's a big announcement for the Sam
Speaker 1: Curve Football Center.
Speaker 36: Yes, yeah, so the main I guess news of this
Speaker 36: press conference was four million dollars to create two new
Speaker 36: community sized pitches at the Sam Curve facility in the
Speaker 36: state's southeast that is expected to complete by early next year.
Speaker 36: And it's a mid obviously, it's a fifty plus million
Speaker 36: dollar center that they says is kind of the star
Speaker 36: of football here in Perth and in wa and they
Speaker 36: want to continue that growth, so that we're putting this
Speaker 36: extra money to create two community size pictures. But particularly
Speaker 36: with the growth in the sport and particularly in women's participation,
Speaker 36: which the Premier said has gone up thirty four percent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, massive ism.
Speaker 36: So a quick turnaround on that light suburb for us.
Speaker 1: Holly, did they mention where it is physically? Where it is?
Speaker 36: It is in Queen's Park the sam cur Center at
Speaker 36: the moment, it's about seventeen minutes from the studios here,
Speaker 36: not far at all, and you get a good look
Speaker 36: at John Hughes.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 36: The premier also announcing three hundred and thirty two million
Speaker 36: dollars as part of the state budget for sports infrastructure
Speaker 36: right across the state. Deputy Premier and Minister for Sports
Speaker 36: and Recreation said that there's hundreds of grants that will
Speaker 36: be available across all different types of sports and community centers,
Speaker 36: but particularly a focus on grassroots sports.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is that called the CRF fun? Does that ring
Speaker 1: a bell? Community Sports and Recreation Facilly's Fun? Did that
Speaker 1: ring a bell, Holly or is it?
Speaker 36: I think this is just more broadly on sports infrastructure.
Speaker 36: The government website does have a more detailed least of
Speaker 36: kind of the breakdowns. A billion here, twenty million?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, sorry, a question without notice there and Rita
Speaker 1: Sefilody had a bit to say on some other matters
Speaker 1: as well, as did the premiere.
Speaker 36: Yes, certainly so. Ben knuckle boxing has been obviously a
Speaker 36: big point of debate across the community at the moment,
Speaker 36: the Deputy Premier standing by her decision to not overrule
Speaker 36: any decision by the Combat Sports Commission. It's understood their
Speaker 36: meeting today, but not entirely sure on what they'll be
Speaker 36: discussing and whether or not there'll be a change of announcement.
Speaker 36: But the Deputy Premier effectively said with the data and
Speaker 36: information she's been given, she can't differentiate between ben knuckle
Speaker 36: boxing and sports like UFC and MMA, which we've had
Speaker 36: in the state before, and said that while there might
Speaker 36: be a vocal group in the community, they are at
Speaker 36: against it, she is receiving community feedback that it's something
Speaker 36: that they support and looking forward to watching.
Speaker 1: Okay, what else did they say?
Speaker 36: Are the issues? The Pet's wa website, which we found
Speaker 36: out last week has been scrapped. The Premier couldn't answer
Speaker 36: whether or not that company had any more government contracts,
Speaker 36: but did take the question on notice. Also took on
Speaker 36: notice how much it had already been spent on that
Speaker 36: Pet's Away website, which was supposed to roll out with
Speaker 36: these new puppy farming laws, that was given nine point
Speaker 36: eight million dollars. He says that's not all been spent,
Speaker 36: but there were milestones that the company met and therefore
Speaker 36: that they have been paid for them.
Speaker 1: And just for our listeners. And this is only a rumor, right,
Speaker 1: This is just a rumor and it may or may
Speaker 1: not have substance. But the reason people keep asking Rita
Speaker 1: and Hannah Beasley, does this Seisma have any other contracts?
Speaker 1: There seems to be this notion that they're also running
Speaker 1: the portal for the firearm buyback and the firearm compensations.
Speaker 1: So that's why that question keeps coming up. We don't know.
Speaker 1: We've had a good look ourselves, and we can't see
Speaker 1: any record of Seisma on any government website having that
Speaker 1: particular tie in. So that's why our politicians keep getting usked.
Speaker 36: About their well tru me're taking that on notice. But
Speaker 36: you would hope with particular legislation that is that overreaching
Speaker 36: and that changing. Hopefully, if it's come to a facility
Speaker 36: or company like this, which the premier says the company
Speaker 36: was struggling to deliver the system, hopefully that's not the case.
Speaker 36: Because we already have heard quite a bit of contention
Speaker 36: about firearms own and struggling.
Speaker 1: The best new rules about how and how onerous, the
Speaker 1: application system is and the hand system was. She asked
Speaker 1: about e scooters Holly.
Speaker 36: Yes, certainly. E scooters was the final kind of topic
Speaker 36: of the day, the Premier and Deputy Premier supporting the
Speaker 36: decision of the City of Perth to ban hiring e
Speaker 36: scooters in that locality. The Deputy Premier acknowledging that there
Speaker 36: needs to be more campaigns about education and that a
Speaker 36: recent review into es scooters did show that there needs
Speaker 36: to be more education. We've seen in the debate some
Speaker 36: people not knowing that you're under the same rules as
Speaker 36: if you were in a car on the roads. Some
Speaker 36: people not knowing you aren't allowed to have alcohol in
Speaker 36: your system, will riding them. Obviously they're for people age
Speaker 36: sixteen and plus, but you know whether or not those
Speaker 36: are actually enforced. The Deputy Premier is saying, though, that
Speaker 36: police can breathalyze people and will, particularly with this latest
Speaker 36: case where the alleged driver who hit a pedestrian on
Speaker 36: Saturday night it was allegedly three times over the legal limit.
Speaker 36: Police will start pulling people over on scooters and breathalyzing
Speaker 36: them because they're under the same rules as if you
Speaker 36: were behind the wheel of a car.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very interesting. So you got some audio for us
Speaker 1: here Holly Rita talking about EA scooters at the press
Speaker 1: conference earlier.
Speaker 37: A significant level of compliance activity will be undertaken by
Speaker 37: the police over the upcoming week, and that is, for example,
Speaker 37: making sure the weight and the power of these East
Speaker 37: scooters haven't been modified beyond their regulations. There will be
Speaker 37: undertaking significant compliance activity in relation to the regulations. There
Speaker 37: was a review undertaken by the Road Safety Commission and
Speaker 37: also Department of Transport that didn't recommend any sort of
Speaker 37: further regulations that would prohibit these the East scooters being used,
Speaker 37: but of course, in light of the recent accidents, will
Speaker 37: continue to work across the road safety portfolio and my
Speaker 37: portfolio of how we can try and ensure we improve
Speaker 37: the safety. The reality is the regulations are in place.
Speaker 37: Fact is a lot of people aren't sticking by the law.
Speaker 37: They're not abiding by the regulations. So my view, compliance
Speaker 37: will be very very important to try and make sure
Speaker 37: the community have confidence with what's happening. Just like road rules,
Speaker 37: you know, it's the same as road rules. The real
Speaker 37: issue is, and we've all seen it, that people aren't
Speaker 37: sticking by the rules and they're creating dangerous situations for
Speaker 37: themselves and for pedestrians, and we're just seeing that there
Speaker 37: were certain set of rules provided to make sure we
Speaker 37: could roll this out safety, but there's been a heavy abuse.
Speaker 17: Of those rules.
Speaker 1: Thank you for the audio, Holly. It looks like you
Speaker 1: know we've been asking the question on the show, what
Speaker 1: does this mean for Rockingham, Bunbrie, Bustleton, Mandra where wherever
Speaker 1: counselors are hiring at lease scooters? So we'll try and
Speaker 1: keep stay on that. Thank you for bringing our listeners
Speaker 1: up to date.
Speaker 26: Thanks Bolly.
Speaker 1: Thanks Holly edwood Smith. You'll hear her reports during the
Speaker 1: course of the day. Now, Mik Carlos has just left
Speaker 1: the building and he has texted me to say we
Speaker 1: have a scooter rank out the front of our place
Speaker 1: here at six PR there are usually six scooters there,
Speaker 1: purple ones. They've gone. They have gone. They've been picked
Speaker 1: up by a bloke in a high vis vest. Thank you, Mick.
Speaker 1: Thanks for reporting in on the road reporter Mick Collis,
Speaker 1: who needs a job. Mark Irwain is the mayor of
Speaker 1: the city of Stirling. Joins us now Goaday, Mark Gooday,
Speaker 1: Simon cad I listeners, are you taking note of what
Speaker 1: the City of Perth are doing, any any move over
Speaker 1: your way to ban high scooters or at least to
Speaker 1: remove them from circulation for a while.
Speaker 17: Yeah, there's lots of things at play here, Simon, so
Speaker 17: we're certainly taking note of what's happening at the moment.
Speaker 17: There's obviously been a big media topic for the last
Speaker 17: few days and we acknowledge, you know, there's been a
Speaker 17: tragedy and our thoughts are with the family who've been
Speaker 17: affected by this. Well, several families and indeed community have
Speaker 17: been affected by this. We had no plans currently to
Speaker 17: put any further restrictions on each scooters, but we're certainly
Speaker 17: be watching how the police monitor their restrictions and how
Speaker 17: road safety I guess look at this into the future
Speaker 17: and keep dealing with it. Talked about this before, you know,
Speaker 17: from back in twenty twenty one. I think we were
Speaker 17: one of the first local governments to do trials of
Speaker 17: the e riteables, the hirible ones of these, and it
Speaker 17: was evident then the state government were fairly quick in
Speaker 17: putting on board restrictions and regulations, particularly with road use,
Speaker 17: and it's keeping up with technologies which have probably gone
Speaker 17: a lot quicker than any of us first expected. But
Speaker 17: at the present time we're comfortable that the hirable eat
Speaker 17: scooters had the best restrictions applicable and they're certainly not
Speaker 17: what are creating most of the issues. So we're seeing
Speaker 17: in the public.
Speaker 1: Realm, how many have you got in the city.
Speaker 17: Well, yeah, so two hundred and fifty scooters and they're
Speaker 17: the horrible ones of the bean ones. And to put
Speaker 17: that in perspective, so they're in the areas between Scarborough
Speaker 17: or Brighton Beach and up right up to North Beach
Speaker 17: Watermen's Bay there. Yep, they're gated, so they've got the
Speaker 17: geo fencing capabilities and they're the only ones. Obviously private
Speaker 17: ones don't have that and as we most people will
Speaker 17: remove any restrictions anyway, these ones are restricted to certain
Speaker 17: speeds and particularly through any areas such as through the
Speaker 17: Trig area. So when you get to Medame's Pool, then
Speaker 17: as you go through Trig or you go through Scarborough precincts,
Speaker 17: they're geofenps to only be able to do ten kilometers
Speaker 17: an hour. Now you put a bloke light and myself
Speaker 17: for yourself on them, Simon, you're probably struggling to get
Speaker 17: to walking pace at eight kilometers an hour. So they
Speaker 17: are allowed to open up to twenty five on the
Speaker 17: open areas and on the roads, and we may have
Speaker 17: a look at that, we may have a look at
Speaker 17: whether perhaps on paths that's restricted even further. But when
Speaker 17: you put that in perspective to the number of users
Speaker 17: on those paths, including normal bike users. E bike users
Speaker 17: know that, and I still say I reckon some of
Speaker 17: the worst users are the sixty year old blokes who've
Speaker 17: got surfboards and electric bike on the electric bikes are
Speaker 17: there worth six thousand dollars racing along forty kilometers an
Speaker 17: hour down these paths? Now the e writeable scooters in
Speaker 17: the last six month period there's twenty thousand users of
Speaker 17: those scooters, twenty thousand users of those scooters doing over
Speaker 17: forty thousand rides, so there's significant usage. And again you
Speaker 17: put that in perspective. In the city of Stirling, we've
Speaker 17: had the reports of say three minor injuries, very minor amounts,
Speaker 17: and it's not to say that tragedies can't happen, but
Speaker 17: I think it's important in these situations. Also whilst there
Speaker 17: is a tragedy and it requires a response. We've got
Speaker 17: to make sure we don't conflate every issue and try
Speaker 17: to resolve it at once. You know, and I'm sure
Speaker 17: some of your listeners have said this or had this
Speaker 17: same conversation, but if a drunk, non licensed individual jumped
Speaker 17: in a ute and put their mates in the back
Speaker 17: of a ute and had an accident, we wouldn't then
Speaker 17: take every suv off the road the next day. Like
Speaker 17: I think, it's about putting in perspective with the overall
Speaker 17: usage of this and the thing that we do know
Speaker 17: with any of these e writeables, the ones that have
Speaker 17: geofencing or that have restrictions and regulations around them are
Speaker 17: the safest of those vehicles, and it's important we have
Speaker 17: that control.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, still continue to chat about it and
Speaker 1: meet about it, but this stage you're happy with ten
Speaker 1: k's and congested areas that can open it to twenty
Speaker 1: five k's and you've got two hundred and fifty of them.
Speaker 1: Are there any by a scooter higher places in the city?
Speaker 1: Is are any Scarborough.
Speaker 17: Not separate to the ones that we use? I think
Speaker 17: there are some of the ones with the coinslot bikes,
Speaker 17: but not many in the city Austaily.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right.
Speaker 17: Look, and one of the things that hasn't really been
Speaker 17: tested with these is whilst councils have a role in
Speaker 17: terms of trying to regulate them, the fact is we
Speaker 17: can't control if someone has a scooter or a bike
Speaker 17: or uses them. And I do think the fact that
Speaker 17: these companies are working with local governments to put restrictions
Speaker 17: and be sensible. They also provide, at their own costs,
Speaker 17: a lot of user awareness sessions and they have big
Speaker 17: set up displays during all of our markets on Saturday
Speaker 17: to make sure they engage.
Speaker 8: With the public on the safety issues.
Speaker 17: If we remove ourselves out of that ability to regulate
Speaker 17: them or market, there is potential they could just go
Speaker 17: rogue to some sense and start to operate anyway aside
Speaker 17: of local government. So I think it's important we maintain
Speaker 17: that control.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Mark, thanks for your time. As always,
Speaker 1: thanks for talking to our listeners.
Speaker 17: Hey, can I just have a quick comment about the
Speaker 17: other thing that's been biag Have we got times on them?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 17: You do, all right, because if you read the paper
Speaker 17: to day, you think that every one of us mayors
Speaker 17: was an ego driven failed federal politician who loves boozing
Speaker 17: and eating oysters. According to the editor of The West Australian,
Speaker 17: I just wanted to put that in perspective. It's been
Speaker 17: a big story about local governments and corruption. I just
Speaker 17: want to challenge that and say that I think I'm
Speaker 17: a reasonably common sense sort of person. But to use
Speaker 17: examples where staff take out some counselors and there's a
Speaker 17: thousand dollar bill and say that it's ridiculous and they're
Speaker 17: living large X. You know, when you put that in perspective,
Speaker 17: there's possibly three or four executives in that, and I
Speaker 17: don't know the councilor he's referring to fourteen councils, three
Speaker 17: or four executive They could well have spent all day
Speaker 17: away from their families at a budget workshop or any
Speaker 17: of those sort of situations. To have a meal after that,
Speaker 17: I think passes a pub test. I think it's perfectly reasonable,
Speaker 17: and I think that, you know, staff and councilors in
Speaker 17: a local government should be allowed to eat. I just
Speaker 17: think it's probably blown a bit our of proportion. They're
Speaker 17: how to the highest.
Speaker 8: Account and the reason it is in the public realm.
Speaker 17: Is there how to the highest account of pretty well
Speaker 17: any public service in the country. Local governments have reporting
Speaker 17: standards and you know the order to process that we
Speaker 17: go through. For example, if you're worried about a council
Speaker 17: spending seventy dollars on a bottle of wine, just the
Speaker 17: auditing process that a local government costs US almost two
Speaker 17: hundred thousand dollars a year. Yeah, all right, and the
Speaker 17: right payers are paying for that as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thank you, Mark That's yeah, that is
Speaker 1: another I'll come back to that because we're run late now.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the.
Speaker 17: Mate, I'll put your schedule off.
Speaker 1: No, no, that's all right, No, no, I'm always like
Speaker 1: having you on the show and having a chat to us.
Speaker 1: No moves on east scooters at this stage from cities
Speaker 1: stealing cheese, Mate, Marko and the mayor of the City
Speaker 1: of Silly. We'll come back in just a moment twenty
Speaker 1: two and a half minutes past. Yeah, thanks for listening
Speaker 1: in today. So the city was Stirling. Who are I
Speaker 1: think by population are our biggest council? Are not going
Speaker 1: to band scooters at this stage or the horrible scooters
Speaker 1: that's horrible, not horrible one level three A two Paul
Speaker 1: is has been looking around the joint in Rockingham a
Speaker 1: bit at scooters, could I Paul.
Speaker 7: Good as Simon l a good thank you?
Speaker 23: Yeah, no, listening to your program when I do. When
Speaker 23: I'm home, just going for a drive down the Rocky
Speaker 23: Foreshore from Wells Park through the Rocky Fall Shore. I've
Speaker 23: just gone past Pingos. Usually you see those these scooters
Speaker 23: littered everywhere. Yeah, not one to be seen anywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, So that's that's near garden iem peinga penguin island.
Speaker 1: So Peingo's folks is nies. We're the ferry crosses for pengos.
Speaker 1: And there's none through.
Speaker 23: There, nothing there, even the Rocky Foreshore. Sometimes you've seen
Speaker 23: down getting up down at Wells Park in Serana and
Speaker 23: I'm not coming towards Mike and Keeway. Not any scooter
Speaker 23: to be swing. Usually got those purple ones there.
Speaker 1: Everywhere, the bean ones. Yeah all right, so none at
Speaker 1: all reckon do you reckon a weather thing or.
Speaker 23: Nah, they're out there all the time. I usually stay
Speaker 23: for a drive to keep me yet and just drop
Speaker 23: drive along for shore and he's seen dumped everywhere, but
Speaker 23: I'm not going to be seen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thank you, Paul, thanks for letting us know,
Speaker 1: mate jeess Paul from so that stretch from Quanana all
Speaker 1: along past the Grain Terminal, through Rockingham, sort of around
Speaker 1: past Point Pairing and through pingos So that Showwater Bay
Speaker 1: and through to Waikiki. No purple scooters. We are trying
Speaker 1: to get hold of the handling the mare to see
Speaker 1: if Rockingham have pulled their scooters as well. What will bumbydo,
Speaker 1: Busselton do? What will Freo do? Wherever there are higher
Speaker 1: scooters given the fatality of Saturday night allegedly mobile scooter
Speaker 1: horrible rider riding v pedestrian and the question has has
Speaker 1: passed away? Has come to their injuries?
Speaker 7: Hi Michael, oh, Hi, you know, I'd.
Speaker 30: Just like to mention with the scooters. I looked at
Speaker 30: the first ones, the stirm and got, and they are
Speaker 30: really heavy. They are like massively heavy, and they look
Speaker 30: dangerous to me when I looked at them. I am
Speaker 30: a scooter writer by a writer, just my private one
Speaker 30: which is a lot lighter. But yeah, I still think
Speaker 30: the scooters they've got they're just too heavy, and you
Speaker 30: see them on the footpaths and kids are not really
Speaker 30: looking where they're going, and even though they're not going
Speaker 30: that fast. Because of the weight of them, they could
Speaker 30: cause an enormous amount of damage.
Speaker 1: So Regnan, it's the design and the weight of them
Speaker 1: could be.
Speaker 30: It could be the way you have a look at them,
Speaker 30: they're just the weight is unbelievable. You can't hardly lift them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, all right, cheers, Michael, thank you. That's interesting.
Speaker 1: You haven't heard that before. So we are talking about
Speaker 1: high scooters, folks. This one here from David. David e
Speaker 1: ridables are coming due to the cities globally being high
Speaker 1: congested and our governments are held bent on huge populations.
Speaker 1: Time to give up on banning everything, please, can't deal
Speaker 1: with the amount of laws already pass and judges let
Speaker 1: them out the doors anyway. So David's concern about sentencing
Speaker 1: in leniency in sentencing. This one here from Paul. Paul,
Speaker 1: Sorry not Paul, this is this is George in Mandra.
Speaker 1: The George a couple of the rules for EA scooters
Speaker 1: that people need to be over sixteen or wear a helmet.
Speaker 1: I see people daily in Manadra under sixteen and not
Speaker 1: wearing helmets. So policing seems to be non existent, and
Speaker 1: that you know, John and that is the probably the
Speaker 1: major issues, and how do you stop people from getting
Speaker 1: on board these things when they've had a skinful, you know,
Speaker 1: particularly with the riotables. Now this is a temporary measure
Speaker 1: from the City of Perth. They've picked all the scooters
Speaker 1: up today. There were six in front of our joint
Speaker 1: this morning out on the road. They've all gone and
Speaker 1: this is temporary at this stage. Helen says, why should
Speaker 1: the WA Combats Sports Mission, sorry Combat Sports Commission have
Speaker 1: to say on Bare knuckle Box the government has the
Speaker 1: powder banner, just do so, I reckon they are, Helen,
Speaker 1: this was always going to happen, this fight. As we
Speaker 1: said yesterday in the last couple of days on the show,
Speaker 1: will police also be charging underage e scooter riders as
Speaker 1: well as breath testing? The law is too difficult to
Speaker 1: comply with at the moment. All scooter riders should be
Speaker 1: over sixteen, regardless of their power. Thank you, Helen, absolutely
Speaker 1: spot on today. So you may have heard that the
Speaker 1: Tasmanian government they've had a no confidence motion expressed on
Speaker 1: them and this is obviously highly political, but it also
Speaker 1: goes to the budget and the amount of money there
Speaker 1: could be potentially spending on the new stadium, the AFL stadium.
Speaker 1: So this is an issue of extra of high importance
Speaker 1: to the Tasmanians and the Tasmanian government. This may mean
Speaker 1: that we may not get the Tasmanian AFL team. After all.
Speaker 1: Here is Brendan Gale, the CEO of the Tazzy Devils.
Speaker 1: Brendan spoke to Tom Elliott this morning on the three
Speaker 1: A W and this is what Brendan go I had
Speaker 1: to say.
Speaker 22: Well, no, it's not the end of the stadium.
Speaker 38: Look that the stadium has continued upon allegacy. Process through
Speaker 38: Parliament is to go through both houses of Parliament, and
Speaker 38: I guess to deal with the stadium is between the
Speaker 38: AFL and the Government of Tasmania. So look, if there's
Speaker 38: a if Jeremy survives, it's on course. If there's a
Speaker 38: change in leadership and the governments in place, well it's
Speaker 38: on course. I guess The challenge for the stadium and
Speaker 38: both stands of the team is if there's an election.
Speaker 38: I mean that pushed our timelines could be changing government,
Speaker 38: composition to parliament changes and there's all those risks which
Speaker 38: would place the stadium and hence the team at some risk.
Speaker 38: Our responsibility is to build a club and our club
Speaker 38: is distance has continued upon the stadium and that is
Speaker 38: between the AFL and and obviously the Tasmanian government.
Speaker 6: So look, you know there are some obligations.
Speaker 22: Around time and delivery of the infrastructure, and those timelines
Speaker 22: would put at risk and so there would be some
Speaker 22: we're to go to an election, there would be some
Speaker 22: nervousness from the AFL. I would think that that would
Speaker 22: be up to them.
Speaker 1: To a pine on that, to a pine on that.
Speaker 1: So it's Brendan Gale speaking to our man Tom Elliot,
Speaker 1: who is the host of the morning show on three AW.
Speaker 1: That was Brendan Gale's speaking to him this morning. So
Speaker 1: we are I think we're still awaiting the outcome of
Speaker 1: the no confidence motion. This is a parliamentary process as well,
Speaker 1: and bias nature a political process. So the parliament in
Speaker 1: Tazzy continues to debate the no confidence motion in the
Speaker 1: premiere and that of course is around budget, budget expenditure
Speaker 1: and expenser on the stadium. So you may recall I
Speaker 1: don't think the AFL tipped any money into our stadium whatsoever,
Speaker 1: and that's what the AFL does. We'll give you a
Speaker 1: license for clubs in your city, but you've got to
Speaker 1: build a stadium using your own rate payers money. We
Speaker 1: will come back after these and have a chat to you.
Speaker 7: Robin.
Speaker 1: I will talk to you in just a second. Thanks
Speaker 1: for your telephone call. It is twenty seven minutes to
Speaker 1: one o'clock.
Speaker 39: Still dealing with that chuck breakdown on Quanana Freeway northbound
Speaker 39: exit to Leech Highway westbounded Bateman. The left hand turner
Speaker 39: lane is blocked there. We've now got a crash on
Speaker 39: the Mitchell Freeway northbound exit to Charles Street and West
Speaker 39: Perth reduced to a single lane with the police on site.
Speaker 1: Traffic heavy on approach.
Speaker 39: So heading up the Mitchell this afternoon northbound at the
Speaker 39: moment Narrows Bridge through to the site of the crash.
Speaker 39: No delays on the Quanana Grain Farmer north Bridge Tunnel
Speaker 39: or the city. I'm Bruce Well from Perth's traffic leader
Speaker 39: six PR.
Speaker 2: Let's take pause.
Speaker 1: Let's go to our newsroom here at six PR. Good afternoon, John.
Speaker 40: Nichols, thank you, Simon, Good afternoon. The City of Perth
Speaker 40: has suspended the hiring of East scooters while investigations continue
Speaker 40: into Saturday night's fatal incident. Deputy Lord Mayor Bruce Reynolds
Speaker 40: says about five hundred scooters are now disabled. They're being
Speaker 40: collected from the streets while a final decision is made.
Speaker 40: Lithium iron batteries have been blamed for two house fires
Speaker 40: in Perth overnight. Investigators say a fire that broke out
Speaker 40: in the garage of a two story home in Hall's
Speaker 40: Head about half past nine was sparked by a loose battery,
Speaker 40: and a home in Spear Would's been destroyed by fire
Speaker 40: because of a power tool's lithium iron battery that was
Speaker 40: on charge, also in a garage. More than one hundred
Speaker 40: edged weapons have been confiscated around Perth under new laws
Speaker 40: allowing police to conduct random, non invasive scans. Since December,
Speaker 40: police have conducted more than fifty thousand searches in knife
Speaker 40: wanding areas including Perth and Northbridge. Eagles forward Jamie Cripps
Speaker 40: says putting his hand up for selection for Sunday's clash
Speaker 40: with North Melbourne. He had minut knee surgery following West
Speaker 40: Coast's win in round ten, but it's whether twenty degrees
Speaker 40: at the moment. Showers clearing today eight overnight partly cloudy
Speaker 40: and nineteen tomorrow there'll be more news.
Speaker 2: At one, thank you John, John not just before we
Speaker 2: get to Nichols Niche you are going to squeeze in
Speaker 2: a core for a robin if we may get a robin?
Speaker 20: Yeah, gotay s And look I live in Wenby down
Speaker 20: so city is Stirling And apart from the fact that
Speaker 20: these things are just dangerous, they're just littered everywhere on
Speaker 20: the ground, on corners, on roundabouts. Every morning you get up,
Speaker 20: drive down the beach front for a coffee and they're
Speaker 20: a mess. But a bigger issue assignment, I think evolving
Speaker 20: e bikes now. The other day I was driving down
Speaker 20: the boulevard in Floria, heading towards the florioad Forum. Four
Speaker 20: or five kids on e bikes or standing wheelis, on
Speaker 20: their back wheels, no helmets. I'm fourteen fifteen year olds
Speaker 20: driving as fast as the traffic all over the road
Speaker 20: like a little little gang of posse of young people.
Speaker 20: Control what day. It would have been nine to thirty
Speaker 20: in the morning, ten o'clock and they were on the
Speaker 20: footpath on the road on either side of the road.
Speaker 20: These things should be banned. These things are a danger
Speaker 20: not only to them but to other people. They're driving
Speaker 20: as fast as cars. No, almost nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Ron, thank you mate, We do appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: Thank you. So that's a take on the city of Serving.
Speaker 1: I live in the city of Sterling. I don't see
Speaker 1: them littering the roads. Maybe just where I am you
Speaker 1: do see them, but I mean they stop people half
Speaker 1: off of them. When their money runs out, they stop
Speaker 1: and they can leave them there. They should leave them
Speaker 1: on their stands. Obviously one of our listeners, I think
Speaker 1: it's Jamie who's standing Bumbrey says Hi, Jamie, they are
Speaker 1: GPS GEO locked in Bumbray. You can't hire a scoodiny
Speaker 1: of the estuary in Bumbray because idiots throw them in.
Speaker 1: Same with council parks near pond. So I didn't know that, Jamie.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Certainly the story of the last few days
Speaker 1: giving them fatality. On the weekend, it is eighteen and
Speaker 1: a half minutes to one.
Speaker 41: Let's do this and now the fourth most talented musician
Speaker 41: in his family news reader extraordinary, for they are of
Speaker 41: condiments and small goods. While watching the bath first one
Speaker 41: thousand wear of a beetle shirt every Friday, but named
Speaker 41: his Pug after David Bowie, lover of Volkswagen golfs and
Speaker 41: peak spokesperson for the Madagascan radiated tortoise community. It's John
Speaker 41: Nichols presenting Nichols.
Speaker 1: Niche Grade intro, probably one of our longest intros, befitting
Speaker 1: the occasion, I think today, John, thank you, Simon. Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: Nichols Niche. What do you have for us today?
Speaker 40: Well, today, like last time, I'm going to be celebrating
Speaker 40: the sixtieth anniversary of an iconic song. Last time it
Speaker 40: was sixty years ago since Paul McCartney wrote the lyrics
Speaker 40: to Yesterday. And today it's the sixtieth anniversary of the
Speaker 40: release of this classic single.
Speaker 1: Great song. Absolutely Banger yep, total bang did set fair nickam.
Speaker 40: Banger one percent and as far as I can per
Speaker 40: banger yes finished okayah, as far as I can tell
Speaker 40: it sixty years because there's a little bit of uncertainty
Speaker 40: about whether it was yesterday, today or tomorrow that's the
Speaker 40: sixtieth anniversary, or it's released in the United States. I
Speaker 40: fed this into Google. We have a special account with
Speaker 40: Google and we can get it to do important things
Speaker 40: like this and it spat out a seven page report
Speaker 40: on the vext question of when the single of Satisfaction
Speaker 40: came out anyway, because it's Nichols niche day, I'm going
Speaker 40: to say it was sixty years ago today, June the fourth.
Speaker 1: In the seventh page report, wasn't offendive on the day?
Speaker 40: No, No, it said no, it couldn't really come down
Speaker 40: on one particular version. Next that says today, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 40: what was I going to say? It'll come to me anyway.
Speaker 40: The song was written as it was a dream by
Speaker 40: Keith Richards he Reckons. He reckons. He got up one
Speaker 40: morning he saw that his cassette machine, and remember cassette
Speaker 40: machines were pretty high tech and fancy back in sixty five.
Speaker 40: He noticed that the cassette machine by his bed had
Speaker 40: gone all the way to the end, but he couldn't
Speaker 40: remember recording anything. So he rewinds the tape and has
Speaker 40: a listen. He hears himself getting up in the middle
Speaker 40: of the night. He plays the intro to I can't
Speaker 40: get No Satisfaction, and then there's half an hour of
Speaker 40: him snoring. So that's how we remembered his song. Mitt
Speaker 40: Jagger apparently wrote the lyrics sitting by the pool in
Speaker 40: Florida just days before they recorded it. They had a
Speaker 40: couple of goes at recording it. One was at Chess Studios,
Speaker 40: the famous studios in America. They had a more folksy
Speaker 40: version with Brian Jones playing harmonica. Then they decided to
Speaker 40: re record it at RCA Studios with Keith plugging his
Speaker 40: guitar into a fuzzbox and that is the icon next
Speaker 40: sound of satisfaction. But he just intended it as a placeholder.
Speaker 2: He said, this is.
Speaker 40: Where the horns will come in, and the producer said, nap, Actually,
Speaker 40: that'll probably do.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The producer was right there.
Speaker 40: They never know when they've recorded a number one classic
Speaker 40: hit because it was originally going to be a B
Speaker 40: side or an album filler, but eventually they decided to
Speaker 40: put it out as a single. It was their first
Speaker 40: American number one.
Speaker 1: You do hear a lot, don't you.
Speaker 2: We didn't realize at the time a lot of bands,
Speaker 2: so looking back, we had no idea.
Speaker 40: How did that become the single? Yeah, that was that
Speaker 40: even released. We just thought, yep, it's just another song, Divo,
Speaker 40: whip it another classic.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 40: They didn't think that was much.
Speaker 1: Take it Easy by the Eagles. Jackson Brown said, I
Speaker 1: can't do anything with this. Here you Go. It's the
Speaker 1: first song on their Greatest Hits album, There You Go.
Speaker 1: Nichols Niece continues, Yes, so.
Speaker 40: This is actually connected to the previous item because the
Speaker 40: fuzzbox that Keith used was a Gibson Maestro f said
Speaker 40: fuzz tone pedal, which sold out by the end of
Speaker 40: nineteen sixty five because everyone wanted to sound like Kief.
Speaker 40: But here's another Gibson related story.
Speaker 35: I can't guess you guys are ready for that.
Speaker 33: Yeah, but your kids are gonna love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 23: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's Michael J.
Speaker 40: Fox at the end of his special solo Shredding appearance
Speaker 40: on stage at the Enchantment under the Sea Dance in
Speaker 40: Back to the Future.
Speaker 1: Good reference job.
Speaker 40: Yeah, well, thank you. That was a Gibson ES three
Speaker 40: forty five. I don't know if you're familiar, but there's
Speaker 40: a worldwide search for that particular guitar because again Back
Speaker 40: to the Future, they didn't know it was going to
Speaker 40: be a classic movie. They didn't intend to make a sequel.
Speaker 40: But when they decided to make the sequel and they
Speaker 40: had to go back to nineteen fifty five, and re
Speaker 40: enact that scene. They had to find the same guitar
Speaker 40: and they couldn't find it. It's been missing ever since.
Speaker 2: To this day, to this day.
Speaker 40: So what happened is they decided, let's do a documentary
Speaker 40: about this, and this is where it gets a bit suss,
Speaker 40: starting a glow coble search. It's called Lost to the Future.
Speaker 40: There's a website, there's a YouTube page and everything. Michael J.
Speaker 40: Fox is in on this, along with Christopher Lloyd, Lea Thompson,
Speaker 40: Harry Waters Junior. He's the guy who played Chuck Berry's
Speaker 40: cousin yep and thereby helped invent rock and roll. And
Speaker 40: they're just calling for people to give hints. You know,
Speaker 40: someone must have it, blah blah blah. And they're making
Speaker 40: a documentary about it.
Speaker 1: Excellent.
Speaker 40: Yeah, but I reckon, if you're going to make a
Speaker 40: documentary about it, you probably know how it's going to end.
Speaker 40: I'm just saying that, Yeah, I reckon, it's going to
Speaker 40: turn up.
Speaker 1: They're going to find it. Yeah, I love that story.
Speaker 1: That's unreal. We talk about rats a little bit on
Speaker 1: the program yep and Rodents yep.
Speaker 40: Yeah, Welsh researchers. They're using glitter so they can track
Speaker 40: the movements of water voles, which are little rodents, a
Speaker 40: bit bigger than a rat, bit smaller than a quacker.
Speaker 40: They're pretty cute, but they're in dangered and they're being
Speaker 40: offered food covered in edible glitter in the hope that
Speaker 40: conservationists will be able to track their movement in the
Speaker 40: wild because the glitter should come out and they're pooh,
Speaker 40: and they will be able to track the little mammals
Speaker 40: like that. Different colors of glitter would be used to
Speaker 40: allow experts to track different families of water voles and
Speaker 40: how far they move and what they get up to.
Speaker 1: I think that's nice. That's nice. That's nice. I think
Speaker 1: that's nice. To John, John, thank you very much. You're
Speaker 1: welcome and Stella installment of Nichols Niche today. Love the
Speaker 1: story about the doggo on the guitar and John's reasonably
Speaker 1: confident the guitar is going to turn up. Thank you John.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you.
Speaker 7: Rich.
Speaker 1: You'll hear John reading news throughout Perth Life Today with
Speaker 1: Oliver Peterson. We'll come back in just a moment if
Speaker 1: you want to call in one double three a daddy two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just a reminder our call of the day today can
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Speaker 1: Liam's only a young guy and he's offered up our
Speaker 1: call of the Day prize for the entirety of this week.
Speaker 1: World on to Liam. So it's in Mindari. It's called
Speaker 1: home Slice. Jacko's two for tonight. So Glen Jakovich has
Speaker 1: a tip for our Thursday night footy which would be
Speaker 1: a great game actually, the Bulldogs versus Hawthorne at Marvel
Speaker 1: Hawthorne looking for redemption after a poor couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: and the Bullies could be anything or beat anybody, couldn't
Speaker 1: they Big Glen Jakovitch tonight has tipped the Bulldogs by
Speaker 1: twenty one points. Jacko will join us for sport tomorrow
Speaker 1: with his tips for the rest of the round. I'll
Speaker 1: bring you up to date with a yes no poll
Speaker 1: as well about judicial sentencing.
Speaker 42: Hi, Susan I, Hello Simon, how are you good?
Speaker 1: Thank you?
Speaker 42: I'm just bringing out the same as probably a lot
Speaker 42: of your other callers have rung. As far as the
Speaker 42: scooters Golow, but just an incident that happened to myself
Speaker 42: and my husband. We were walking along the citys Stirling.
Speaker 42: We were walking along Beaufort Street going towards Englewood area,
Speaker 42: so it was actually a City of Sterling area, and
Speaker 42: we were both holding hands walking on the roots. There's
Speaker 42: cleenty of room on the other side of footpath for
Speaker 42: anyone to have passed us. But this scooter with two
Speaker 42: of them on eared went right between us and the
Speaker 42: road virtually.
Speaker 24: And how that we did both.
Speaker 42: Of it and get knocked over. It's a real shock surprise,
Speaker 42: but I would have done a lot of damage as well.
Speaker 4: You see.
Speaker 42: Yeah, then the of Stirling it's the same with all
Speaker 42: the counts. Looks like they've got to come hard.
Speaker 4: Down on these scooters.
Speaker 1: Was it a black one, Susan, like a privately owned
Speaker 1: one you reckon? Was it going fast?
Speaker 18: It was? It was a.
Speaker 42: Privately owned one and it was going fast.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 42: Yeah, they didn't stop it with two girls. They would
Speaker 42: have stopped if we had it pulled on over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, all right, Susan, I'm glad you're okay, glad
Speaker 1: you're safe still, but that's yeah, look we're getting look
Speaker 1: getting a lot of told you so from our listeners
Speaker 1: who predicted this that they would they are dangerous, they
Speaker 1: would be dangerous and something serious would happen. Getting a
Speaker 1: lot of correspondence on that today. Oliver's are on between
Speaker 1: one and five today with Perth Live. So make sure
Speaker 1: you're listening to Oli. Heud probably be talking to a
Speaker 1: lot of my friends. For my friends, people who started
Speaker 1: out on our show doing different things, you know, finance technology.
Speaker 1: I'll you be talking to my mates for four hours
Speaker 1: after only joking. It's in career best form. Make sure
Speaker 1: we listen to Perth Live today. Jacko's tip just to
Speaker 1: repeat twenty one points for the bullies tonight. One double
Speaker 1: three eight eighty two is the number. Olive Peterson joins
Speaker 1: us now Hello Oliver, Hello Simon, how are you? Yeah?
Speaker 22: Good?
Speaker 1: You're talking to any of my friends today?
Speaker 43: I've just been Trevorlong yep, some now longer a friend,
Speaker 43: Jamie Burnett yep.
Speaker 1: Former friends, yep, all your friends? You get my kids on?
Speaker 43: Is Mick Collis ready to come back after.
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, no, Hazel Beaumont, shit be on. They say
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to be friends with your kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do.
Speaker 1: I'm friends with that one. Yeah he's a ripper.
Speaker 43: Yeah yeah, But I think you know how it's funny
Speaker 43: you say that because you know, we get so much
Speaker 43: advice out with his parents.
Speaker 2: But I was watching something.
Speaker 43: The other day. We don't have to give a justification
Speaker 43: for why we say no as parents, and we feel
Speaker 43: these days you do. And it's not because we don't
Speaker 43: want to tell our kids that they can't do something.
Speaker 1: It's for their own best interests. Okay, And I think
Speaker 1: that's a bit true.
Speaker 43: You know, when I was growing up, can you do this? No,
Speaker 43: didn't ask why. It's just like, okay, that's just the decision.
Speaker 1: This sounds like Carl Baron's kit. Stop, don't go any
Speaker 1: further and more flies, he'd go.
Speaker 2: I suppose I've seen Carl Barrion in a while.
Speaker 1: No, I haven't what you got for us, mate.
Speaker 43: So this afternoon, Bowie, we will be having a chat
Speaker 43: about the flag, of all things, the Australian flag. New
Speaker 43: survey out showing most people like the flag, so we
Speaker 43: when I was trying to scratch the surface on that one.
Speaker 43: We'll also have a chat about the ridiculous fees a
Speaker 43: lot of specialists are charging patience and why the private
Speaker 43: health insurers in our coming out saying, hold on a minute,
Speaker 43: you need to do something about this because it's just
Speaker 43: so damn expensive. It costs more than the actual broken
Speaker 43: leg itself. So we're going to scratch into that issue
Speaker 43: this afternoon. And what's your beef? We can win a
Speaker 43: Tory butcher Tomahawk's steak?
Speaker 1: How good? How good? So good? So good? Is the
Speaker 1: Are you concerned with sentencing from the judicial system at
Speaker 1: the moment? Given the Nick Campo situation yesterday, Oliver, you
Speaker 1: have the final word, but yes is a sixty three
Speaker 1: the nose nine? Yes, you're a yes?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: All right? Thank you mate? Any mate? Chap Wonder five
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Speaker 1: A very very strong response. Our list is not happy
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Speaker 1: today is Nicole, who rang in about giving money to people.
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