WEBVTT - Perth Today with Simon Beaumont Podcast - Thursday, 5 June 2025 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.080 Yes, good morning. I hope you're going well wherever you are. 0:00:02.120 --> 0:00:03.800 If you're listening to us on the app, good morning 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:06.640 to the six PR app. Where as Richie ben I 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:09.799 used to say the APP, I hope you're having a 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:11.880 good day wherever you are. We're here until one o'clock 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:15.160 today and we're a talkback radio station and a talkback program. 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:18.079 The phone lines are well and truly open one double three, 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:21.040 eight to eighty two. Thanks to Mills and Karl and 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:23.920 team for The Bricky Show today. A bit of breaking 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:27.520 news for you, if I may, that the City of 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:30.280 Perth are picking up the purple scooters as we speak. 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:33.040 The City of Perth are driving around in trucks and 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:35.720 they're picking up the scooters as we speak. We believe 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:38.880 the decision was made last night to pull the Escooter 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:42.559 Higher program. The purple scooters are being loaded on trucks 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:45.360 as we speak and are being removed. The decision was 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:49.360 made last night. We understand that the contractor that supplies 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:52.360 the scooters is Beam b E a M. And they're 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:55.240 picking up the e scooters as we speak. So on 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:59.600 the back of the fatality last Saturday night, we're allegedly 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:03.520 a twenty four just turned twenty five year old english woman, 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:06.880 a tourist knocked over a fellow on the corner of 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:10.400 King and Murray and he passed away after hitting his head. 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:13.520 The east scooters are being picked up. So we spoke 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:16.880 about this yesterday on the program and we speculated yesterday 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:21.520 that this might potentially happen given the I guess the criteria, 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:25.480 the regulations around hiring a scooter. They're pretty lax and 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:27.480 you can get on and you don't get breath lies 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.160 when you get on one. You don't you have to 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:32.360 take a picture of yourself putting a helmet on, but 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:35.520 you don't necessarily need to wear them. So this has 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:39.560 ramifications for the high scooter kaper. What if City of 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:42.600 Perth are removing their higher scooters they're being scooters? What 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:45.240 will city the Sterling do? What will Bustleton do, What 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:49.720 will Rockingham do? Albony Bumbrey, Espirants, Geraldton and the like. 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:54.080 This incident in the city last Saturday has implications for 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:56.760 all of the local government areas. We're want to talk 0:01:56.800 --> 0:02:00.320 to Bruce Reynolds, the Perth Deputy Lord Mayor about this 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:02.440 in just a moment on the program, but we can 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:06.240 tell you here. As of ten nine past nine, the 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:08.720 City of Perth trucks are picking up the purple scooters 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:11.960 and taking them away. Now we've got a big rank 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:14.560 of the purple scooters out the front of six PR 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:17.240 at one sixty nine Hay Street. They're still out there, 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:19.959 but we do have a vision of the trucks getting 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.200 around and picking up the scooters. So we'll cover that 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:25.480 in just a moment on the program. I do have 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:27.360 a yes no question for you which will bring you 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:32.320 in just a moment. This website, this pet registration website, 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:35.200 so like it's a ten million dollar contract and it 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.600 seems to have just disappeared. So this is so that 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:39.880 all the local government councils can talk to each other 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:43.800 in terms of pet, dog and cat registration and sterilizations 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:47.160 at the like. It obviously ties in the vet rooms 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:48.760 around the place as well, but it seems to have 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:51.680 fallen over and disappeared without a trace, So we'll look 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:54.160 at that in a sect. As you know, I'm from 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:56.840 a local government background. I'm always happy to defend councils, 0:02:57.200 --> 0:02:59.720 pretty hard to defend a number of our metro councils 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:02.280 on them out of money. They've been spending with their 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:06.120 credit cards on food and entertainment. We'll talk to Caroline Spencer, 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:10.640 the all powerful, Formidable Order to General in just a 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:12.919 moment on the program. I've got a yes no question 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:13.240 for you. 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:17.520 Right, let's clear this up once and for all. 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:20.760 Given what we saw yesterday and what we heard yesterday, 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:24.639 are you worried that the courts are handing out light sentences? Yes? 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:26.560 Or no? Are you worried that the courts are handing 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:30.480 out light sentences? We heard yesterday are during the middle 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:33.200 of our show that three years and two months is 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:36.360 the sentence for the miner that crashed the car and 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:40.040 killed Daniel and Bianca Campo's son Nick a couple of 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:44.200 years ago. Three years and two months, so he'll this 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:47.360 miner could potentially be out. He served six months already, 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:50.960 he could be potentially about walking around free when he's 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:54.080 only nineteen years of age. So now this was heard 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:56.360 in the children's court, given the defendants age, and the 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:59.880 President Hilton Quail ultimately passed the sentence. We are going 0:03:59.920 --> 0:04:03.800 to talk to John Hammond, the esteemed defense lawyer, about 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.400 the process behind the sentencing. What John thinks about it. 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:10.040 We've seen an early please We've seen remorse, we've seen 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:14.240 surrendering bail and good legal work can significantly reduce sentences. 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:18.520 So the proper judicial process has been applied. I wonder 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:20.640 what you think. Are you worried that the courts are 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:23.960 handing out light sentences? One zero, four, eight seven, trip 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:28.000 nine eight eighty two is the is the number if 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:31.080 you'd like to get in touch with us. This was 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.360 Bianke Campo outside court yesterday. 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:38.000 We are as a family quite disappointed with the sentence. 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.920 We don't feel that it was enough and I really 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:43.159 don't think it's set. It's a very good example for 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:49.280 young people. Nothing of no sentence, obviously will bring our 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:52.040 knit back. It's something that we have to live with 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:55.320 every day for the rest of our lives. We've been 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:57.000 quite broken. 0:04:58.080 --> 0:04:58.520 By that. 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:01.360 Nick was a really good kid and he was very 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:07.919 much loved by all of us. I just don't know 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:12.520 what else to say. Just I just I know other 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.560 families are going to go through this at some you know, 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:19.599 in the future, we're not the only ones. But please, 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:24.000 just please just make sure your kids, you know, they 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:27.960 overdo the right thing when they get into cars, because 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:33.680 this is like a pain that it's unbearable. It really is, 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:37.120 and it's something that no one could understand until you've 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:38.320 actually had to live it. 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:42.080 And I really feel for people who have to go 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:42.600 through this. 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:46.280 Pian Campo yesterday outsaw, gut wrenching, isn't it? Can't imagine 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:50.120 or couldn't imagine anything worse? Could you? So this has 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:53.200 has had a ripple effect for all concerned, for that 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:57.800 community of young people, young young guys, young girls, and 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:02.919 it's thinking about it today, I think it's the sentence 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:07.520 that is causing even more consternation, anxiety and grief. So yes, 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:12.600 the grieving process is reunited for everybody. And you can 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:15.640 hear the hear the emotion in Bianker Campo's voice. There 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:20.320 is the are you concerned about light sentences? Yes or no? 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:23.920 You've got at this stage. We've got probably about half 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:27.080 a dozen yeses and no nos at the moment. And 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:28.840 then let us know why and if you can cite 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:31.400 any examples one double three, ay two. 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:40.480 Good a Chris, Yeah, Simon, you're mentioning the purple beams 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:40.960 goo goods. 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:41.520 Yep. 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.240 Five minutes ago, I was just up in the street, 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.960 just past you, the other side of it, out street, 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.599 and there was a truck loading up all your orange 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:51.440 neuron ones. 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:54.480 Okay, so the orange orange ones are going to Chris. 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.120 I just your phone dropped out, did you say Hay. 0:06:57.000 --> 0:07:00.599 Street, Yeah, Hay Street just up for you over the 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:01.920 other side of Bennet Street there. 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:02.320 Yeah. 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:05.440 So that's the orange ones and the purple ones as well. Hey, Chris, 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:06.440 that's across the board. 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:08.159 Getting rid of a lot, thank god. 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:10.760 Yeah, all right, cheers Chris, Thank you mate, Thanks for 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:13.640 reporting in. If you do see anything you think your 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:16.560 fellow six VUR listeners would be interested in, give us 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:19.160 a call one double three eight to eighty two. The 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:22.120 Bruce Reynolds is the Deputy Lord Mayor of the City 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:24.800 of Perth and joins you now, Bruce, thanks for your time. 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:28.600 Mary Simon, Yeah, I'm well, thank you. Is that the 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:33.120 case Orange and purples there going on trucks as we speak? 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:38.280 Yeah, correct, mate, Both both service providers have been suspended 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:42.560 while we go through this phase of assisting with the 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:47.520 authorities with all the collection of data and providing of 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:51.160 all information that we can to assist in the ongoing investigation. 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:51.880 Investigation. 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:54.880 So, Bruce, did you meet last night, did have a 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:57.400 special meeting with counsel on this and obviously it comes 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:59.000 off the back of what happened last Saturday. 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:05.280 Yeah, correct, So as you can imagine, since Saturday through 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:10.000 till Tuesday afternoon, when the information came through around the 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:17.240 actual fatality, we've had to act in a responsible and 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:20.640 respectful manner. So we called a special meeting where the 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:25.840 counselors were able to come together. Information was provided to 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:30.160 US Fire administration and the decision was made to suspend 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:36.000 the scooters whilst we go through this phase of assisting 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:38.319 with the authorities in the investigation. 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:42.160 So suspended at this stage, but not necessarily a permanent 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:45.000 Did you give any thoughts to somehow trying to police 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:48.080 the use of scooters better or is it just easier 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:50.800 at this stage to take them take them off the road. 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:57.439 At this stage, certainly, to be respectful to the families involved, 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:01.640 we think that there's more, more and more an absolute 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:06.400 appropriate measure and and then we'll go. You know, we 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:09.959 are fully committed to assisting with the investigation. Once we've 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:12.920 collected all the data, the next phase of decision making 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:14.000 will obviously come into play. 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.560 We need to get this right, Bruce. What happens with 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:20.880 the contract? Is there any not sunset clauses the wrong word. 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.640 But is there any clause where you can suspend supply 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:26.480 because Beam are in all those other major senses that 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:30.680 I mentioned, you know, not Calgol anymore, but Bustled and Bumbrie, Rockingham, 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.439 Albany and the Lie. Pretty much everyone uses Beam and 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:35.240 I already imagine they'll be watching what you guys do 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.040 fairly seriously. But how does the how does the pulling 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:39.000 of the contract work? 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:42.840 Yeah, so there is without having the contract in front 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:46.960 of me, there are clauses in the contract around suspension, 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:51.240 and an incident of this of this type would obviously 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:54.600 be be one of those one of those clauses. 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:58.000 All right, all right, Bruce, Well thanks for talking to us. 0:09:58.240 --> 0:09:59.760 Is it just a one day operation to get rid 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.319 of them? And how many purple ones and how many 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:03.240 orange ones are there? 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:05.560 Off the top of your head, Yeah, there's around two 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:08.480 hundred and fifty of each, so five hundred in total. 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.880 The notification has obviously been sent out, and as your 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:18.720 caller mentioned, of their scooter companies are already in an 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:20.280 collection of those scooters. 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.439 So yeah, so that's that's where that is. 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:26.600 We've imagined, so that it's probably going to be forty 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:29.000 eight hours before they're all collected off the streets, but 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:31.440 from twelve o'clock they will be disabled, so even the 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:33.680 ones that are on the streets they won't be used. 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.720 But also, you know, mate, this is a tragedy at 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:41.000 all levels. So so our thoughts go out to everyone 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:44.120 associated with the families and especially the fun the farm family, 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:45.839 and they're extended family and friends. 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:47.240 It's a it's a tragedy. 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:49.960 Yeah it is, Bruce, thank you very much for talking 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:51.160 to us. Really appreciate your time. 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:52.240 Thank you, Simon. 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:55.120 See mate, Bruce Reynolds the Deputy Lord Mayor of the 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:58.000 City of Perth. So that's a quick action. I think 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:00.679 it was arrived at last night. So it's actually the 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:02.640 scooter company, not the City of per trucks that are 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:05.079 picking them up. The Purple Ones and the Orange Ones 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:08.319 two separate companies, I think. Chris said Neuron is the 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:10.360 name of the company that supplies the Orange Ones. Well, 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:12.440 I don't know that for sure. I know the Purple 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:15.720 Ones are Beam. I'm pretty sure this has ramifications for 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:18.679 EA scooters across the state, doesn't it. Gero's got em, 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:22.440 Bumbery's got the Frio's got them. Just about all the 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:26.120 big cities that involve tourism. You know, it seemed like 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:27.959 a good idea at the time, didn't it. And it's 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:32.960 taken one one fairly serious fatality in the city involving 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:36.319 and you know she'll have her day in court, so 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:39.559 we'll hear some more details there. But allegedly involved alcohol, 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:43.680 Allegedly involved a day drinking at the pub, doing excessive 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:47.040 speed on a footpath. Allegedly all of that will come out. 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.760 So Neuron Mobility and Beam are the two companies what 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:52.679 I reckon listeners nineteen minutes past nine. We're asking the 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:56.080 question today as well is sentencing. Are you concerned about 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:59.319 sentencing in general given what we heard yesterday with the 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:02.800 sentencing of the young driver, the minor involved in the 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:04.920 death of Nick Campo. The yes is eleven and the 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:08.200 nose zero. We're going to speak to John Hammond in 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:11.280 just a moment about the sentencing, the process of the 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:15.040 sentencing from the court case yesterday in the children's court. 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:18.319 Stay listening, Thanks for your thoughts. And we have had 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:20.520 some visions sent to us and some photos sent to 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:24.560 us of a ferry sinking in a Bali yesterday, which 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:28.400 involves some Western Australians and some West Astralian families and kids. 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:33.240 So it's off nus Lomboggan and it involves a very 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:35.640 near a place called Mushroom Bay. So we are trying 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:38.880 to talk to From what we can see, there have 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:43.680 been no injuries or fatalities. That's our early mail. But 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:48.200 there was a ferry turnover and sink yesterday in oft 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.520 Loose Nusi Lomboggan in Mushroom Basse, So try and bring 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:54.080 you some more details of that in just a moment. 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:55.520 What do you think, folks the East scooters are off 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:57.800 the street in Perth are being picked up by the 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:02.800 companies in just just as we speak, rayces scooter. How's 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:05.000 a good idea? At the time, other cities were ditching 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.480 them as Perth was introducing them. More like a lapse 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:09.640 in due diligence to me, Ray, you could be right. 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:11.839 That's just my thoughts. I thought, hey, wow, you can 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:14.760 hire a scooter does twenty k's now down at Scarborough 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:17.920 and go for spin. Never ever thought it would result 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:20.200 in a fatality. Ray, I've got to be honest. So 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:24.280 that's my thoughts, Ray, not necessarily anybody else's. Thanks for 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:28.559 weighing in ray. Good on you. We are taking your 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:31.720 thoughts today. Is the Are you concerned with sentencing in general, 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:34.560 given that we saw with the sentencing yesterday over the 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.480 miner that crashed a car that resulted in the death 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:40.920 of Nick Campo. John Hammond is a criminal lawyer, joins 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:46.160 us now today, John, Hi, John, can you hear me? 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:47.320 Yes? 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:48.120 Can you hear me? 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:50.319 Yeah? Got you mate? You thanks for talking to us today. 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:53.480 So I wouldn't mind asking about the about the process 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:56.040 betime the sentencing, bearing in mind this is was in 0:13:56.080 --> 0:14:00.800 the Children's Court, a very high profile case early please 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:04.640 remorse surrendering bail and I guess some good legal work, John. 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:08.080 But that's how the system works, isn't it. 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:10.520 It is how the system works. But I would ask 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.120 people to hold the faith if I can say that, 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:17.160 because I believe, with a great respect to the Children's 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:20.640 Court President Hilton Quayle, that he actually he got the 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:24.840 decision right. This young bloke seventeen's going to go to 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:29.360 jail for three years and two months. And when that 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:34.000 sentence was passed, the Children's Court President took into account 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:39.160 everything that happened on that night and all the families 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:43.800 that were involved and the circumstances of the crash. Now, 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:46.480 I think it's important to bear in mind that all 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:50.120 of the people in that car, according to witnesses, were 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:55.360 amped up, They were speeding, they were told what one 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:59.520 passenger told the driver who's now going to jail, to 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:03.760 gun it all the way to the nightclub. Now, I 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.200 think everyone that was in that car has got to 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:09.240 take responsibility for what happened, not just the driver. 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:15.200 Mm hmm. So yeah, okay, And it's you, you've you've 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:17.920 been you know in court. With these situations, you're evolving 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:21.920 young people in families. John, The ripple effect is is massive, 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:22.240 isn't it. 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:26.840 The the it is, it is, it's it's and it's horrendous. Look, 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:31.400 I feel really badly for the parents of Nick Campo. 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:37.320 To see someone so young get, you know, get killed 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:41.640 in these circumstances is just appalling. But Simon, it's all 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.120 part of a culture, I think too. And it seems 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:47.360 to be money prevalent in young men who think that 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:50.800 they are indestructible. When they get behind a wheel and 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:53.680 they get excited, they all get together and they're racing 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:57.480 off to a nightclub. Well, and they're egging each other 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:01.320 on Simon. That's the point. He was being urged to 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:07.480 go faster. So the blame lies fairly and squarely on 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:09.840 all of those who were in the car from a 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:10.880 moral point of view. 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:14.480 All right, So as far as the system goes, John, 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:18.640 and you are a man of an experienced lawyer but 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:22.120 also a man of humanity. You think Hilton Quail has 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:26.480 looked at all the mitigating circumstances, what happened on the night, 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:28.480 and what was in front of him, and the legal work, 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:30.160 and that is the right sentence. 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:34.640 I think it's right, Yes, with great respect to the President. 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:38.160 But the second thing I think it's really important is 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:42.560 that the President noted the remorse shown by the PA 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:47.040 plate driver. Hey, Janiet, the President believed that the PA 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:51.320 plate driver was really sorry about what had happened. And look, 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:54.120 I I defy any young bloke in the community to 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:56.880 put the hand up and say I've never done anything 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:01.240 stupid behind the wheel. When I was seven, nineteen twenty, 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:05.719 that might be one or two putting their hand up 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:07.320 and saying I've done something stupid. 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:09.800 Oh yeah, and I'd put myself in that category. John, 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:13.160 So I'll stick my hand up, John, thank you. Can 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:15.480 I one final one, and I'm pressing a bit here. 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:20.800 Is is showing remorse a legal tactic or a characteristic 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:21.359 of a person? 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:26.440 I don't like to see it as a legal tactic. 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:32.080 The judges and magistrates are various working out whether someone 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:34.639 is generally sorry for what they've done. 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:35.680 Yeah, all right. 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:39.480 They rely on psychiatric ports the work, so it's not 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:42.160 easy to just stand up there and say it. That's 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:44.640 not enough. You've got to demonstrate a whole lot more. 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.320 Yeah, all right, John, thanks for talking to us today. 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:49.120 Yeah, thanks, Simon. 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:54.159 Cheers. John Hammond, criminal lawyer, defense lawyer. So John, we'll 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:56.840 put John in the in the one in the no columnies. 0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:59.399 Are you concerned with sentencing being too lean in this 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:03.560 particular case? Said? Nose are two including John's, and yeses 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:08.080 are nineteen. So I'll get to some of your correspondents 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:08.879 right now. 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:09.560 Terry. 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:11.720 Gooday, Terry, Yes, sentence is a way too lean. And 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:14.560 please remember a large number of judges are formal criminal 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:17.439 defense lawyers. So what else do you expect? Not a 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:21.399 bad point, Terry, This one here from Paris Parry. It's 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:24.000 a yes from me. I believe there should be a 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:25.639 sentence handed down to none of this parole. So if 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:27.400 you get out ten years, Joe, you do the ten years, 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:30.280 not adding five. Just a thought, thanks Paris. What is 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:36.240 incarceration about. It's about punishment, rehabilitation and removing danger from society. 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:40.720 One double three eight two is the is the phone 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:46.159 number today? On scooters? John raised an interesting point, Get 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:48.400 a John, what a nanny state we are? How many 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:50.600 trips that have helped people get around on these high scooters? 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:52.639 We get one bad accident, we get a knee jerk reaction. 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:55.000 How many accents have they been with drunk drivers in 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:58.280 higher cars that no one wants to ban them? Says John? John. 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:00.800 Thank you, that's a really interesting one. And Bruce Reynolds 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:02.800 was pretty upfront. He said it's also out of respect 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:06.960 to a grieving family. He said that I think three times, Bruce, 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:10.560 So that's obviously a factor for them. For the city 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:12.720 of Perth, the scooters have been removed. I mean the 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:15.400 other one, John on this is me being a little cynical. 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:18.879 The councilors might not be able to face the potential 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:23.439 compensation costs and insurance costs. So and a lot of 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:26.240 our listeners have pointed out that Albany has withdrawn its 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:28.760 high scooters. So thanks to John and others who've let 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:31.119 us know about that. But that's what happens now in 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:33.679 the city of Stirling. What does Mark Erwin do, What 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:36.679 does deb Hamlin do in Rockingham? What does Phil Crohen 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:40.119 do in Bustleton? What does the Geraldton mayor do? What 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:42.639 do they do with I think how goolies pulled their 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:44.560 highest scooters as well, so you know they make a 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:47.320 bit of dough for the councils and they see as 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:49.000 I said earlier, and this is genuine, it seemed like 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:52.359 a nice idea. Get on a scooter, goarden down Riverside Drive, 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:55.520 garden down West Coast Highway, Scarborough, have a little roll 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:57.919 along the foreshore and Rockingham. But now we've had a 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:02.920 fatality allegedly involving heavy drinking. So the City of Perth 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:04.840 for picking up the scooters as we as we speak, 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:07.320 but up to hear from you, I'm Simon Beaumont. Are 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:09.800 you concerned with light sentencing the yester twenty five and 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:11.960 the nose of four back in a moment. 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:25.240 Still dealing with a crash in Morley Tonkin Highways southbound 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:28.240 the entry from Morley Drive that left emergency lane remains 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:30.840 blocked with toys on site and the crash Bennett Springs 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:34.320 Tonkin Southbound Read Highway down to a single lane incident 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:37.320 response joining Toey's and a police on site. Make sure 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:39.879 you plan ahead to avoid heavy delays in the area. 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:42.560 I'm Rob beaver on Pertz, Traffic Leader six PR. 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:46.440 Yeah, thanks for listening in Today we are asking the 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:49.879 question do you think are you concerned about senencing in general? 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:54.040 Out of the WA judicial system the Children's Court district 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:56.679 magistrates caught all of that. Given what we saw yesterday 0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:59.960 with the sentencing over the miner that crashed his vehic 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:03.280 and which resulted in the death of young Nick Campo, 0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:05.879 the yeses are thirty one and the nose are six. 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:09.000 Shane says he's a no. I agree hundred percent with everything. 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:10.879 John Hammond just said. Sentence was in line with all 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:13.640 the details from events leading up to that most fatal 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:16.760 moment and the young man lost his best mate Judu's driving. 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:19.840 He admitted guilt and even denied his own bail. Thank you, Sean. 0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:23.200 I appreciate that. Patrick says a virus a mess. It 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:25.399 won't say the sentence in post and the driver and 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:27.439 the Nick Campo case was too leaning, as I might 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:30.720 get too philosophical. However, I think the judicial system is 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:33.000 generally pathetic. I cite the case of the thug the 0:21:33.119 --> 0:21:36.400 walk free after assaulting a cop outside Opter stadium makes 0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:39.360 my blood boil. And quite a few people are now 0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:43.919 pushing this argument into the notion of privately owned scooters, 0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:47.480 the ones where we've seen four fatalities this year already. 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:50.240 And these things do zoom around on our roads and 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:53.600 on our cycle ways, and they are often adjusted so 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:57.480 they can go even faster. But this has ramifications this decision. 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:00.479 As I sit here talking to you, the City Perth 0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:03.880 have asked the scooter companies to pick up the orange 0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:06.840 Neuron scooters and the purple beamscooters. I think I've got 0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:09.840 the color schemes right there. And of course this is 0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:16.080 has ramifications for other councils that run high scooters. What 0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:19.159 about this story? Hasty has a story in WA Today 0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:23.200 on the website WA Today. As you know, the new 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:28.920 legislation around puppy farming laws came into effect last week 0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:33.720 whereby you can't buy a pet from a pet shop 0:22:34.040 --> 0:22:37.240 unless it's a rescue pet a rescue dog, and you 0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:40.040 need to buy from a registered dealer, so that has 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:44.480 significantly changed the landscape. In addition to which part of 0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:47.360 this legislation meant that the one hundred and thirty nine 0:22:47.440 --> 0:22:50.920 West Australian Councils could be part of a registration system 0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:55.560 where dogs and cats could be registered, their sterilization status 0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:58.240 could be registered, and this was all part of the 0:22:58.280 --> 0:23:00.159 new laws coming in. Now it looks like the nine 0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:03.359 point eight million dollar contract to build software for that 0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:07.760 centralized pet registration website has fallen over. It seems to 0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:12.000 have disappeared altogether. Currely war is the opposition spokesook person 0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:15.000 for Local government. Get a curly Simon Beaumont. 0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:17.679 How are you good morning, Simon? 0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:19.040 What's happened here? Do you think? 0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:21.159 Well? 0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:23.720 Last week the Minister did stand in Parliament and made 0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:26.080 the announcement that the contract for the nine point eight 0:23:26.080 --> 0:23:30.159 million dollar central registration system that underpins the puppy farming 0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:35.080 legislation was basically torn up and there has been no 0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:38.600 indication of a clear pathway forward as to when a 0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:42.080 new contract may be issued. And we have to remember 0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:48.200 this system underpins the legislation. So our question is how 0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:51.640 much of taxpayers money has already been spent and when 0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:54.439 can we when can we look forward to seeing a 0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:58.200 new contract being issued to ensure that this particular system 0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:02.159 becomes a reality, because local governments have been waiting a 0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:05.400 number of years for this to come into play. 0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:09.560 Yeah, so, as you say, it's the administration part of 0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:13.520 the whole of the law changes the entirety of them. 0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:17.720 The company is called Seisma, So Seisma, who developed software, 0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:21.120 and the government have mutually agreed to cease this. We 0:24:21.000 --> 0:24:23.919 were able to get more information out of the out 0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:26.720 of Minister Hannah Beasley, so we had. 0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:29.879 A briefing with Hannah late last week. Most of what 0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:33.959 that contract contained is commercial in confidence, and I respect that, 0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:37.800 but it was mutual. Yes, I believe that, and I 0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:40.399 do also believe that the work that's been done today. 0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:41.359 Won't be lost. 0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:45.720 But that still doesn't give surety to the local governments 0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:49.840 and that have been anticipating this system coming online for 0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:50.600 many years. 0:24:50.760 --> 0:24:52.760 This legislation was passed. 0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:55.520 In twenty twenty one, so we're now in twenty twenty five. 0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:58.840 Local governments have been looking forward to a centralized registration 0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:04.480 system actually put time and ratepayers money into getting their 0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:08.160 data ready in their own individual systems to be migrated 0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:11.080 into this new system and now it's come to a 0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:13.480 halt and there's no clear pathway forward. 0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:17.520 Holding a curly war Opposition spokesperson for Local Government Matters curely, 0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:19.880 do you know off the top of your head if 0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:22.680 we know about the one hundred and thirty nine councils 0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:24.920 want this and need this to enact the laws properly 0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:33.119 do veterinary rooms to vet surgeons who also monitor the 0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:38.840 health status of dogs and cats and also their sterilization status. 0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:41.920 Did you know if if they're part of this portal, 0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:44.240 there'd be a number. 0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:47.320 Of stakeholders that would be able to access into this 0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:50.760 particular portal. That's my understanding, but I guess from a 0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:53.480 registration point of view, and this is what we're talking 0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:56.359 about when it comes to puppy farming, making sure that 0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:59.800 when you go to buy a pet a puppy, that 0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:05.400 you're buying it from a registered, an accredited breeder or 0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:09.800 a from an adoption shelter. So those types of organizations 0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:13.639 would definitely be having access into those into this portal. 0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:16.359 But at this point there is no portal and we 0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:20.800 have to we can't forget simon that this government hasn't 0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:23.679 delivered on other portals. So is this is this another 0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:27.560 case of that? That's the question. Also, you know we've 0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:31.160 had debarcers with the firearms portal and the nurses registration 0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:32.760 portal in the. 0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:33.880 Past, and. 0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:37.960 I guess where are we going with this one? Maybe 0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:40.159 maybe maybe holding. 0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:41.960 It Yeah, and arguably it's a bit more time to 0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:42.720 get it right. 0:26:42.800 --> 0:26:47.000 Yeah maybe yeah, and arguably the state election process as well. 0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:50.040 With Purcell Kelly, Hey, curly, thank you for talking to 0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:51.720 us today. We will stay on it. And thanks to 0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:55.800 Hamish Hasty for raising the issue. You're you. You talk 0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:58.160 on matters of local government and you're a long term 0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:03.120 local government of yourself. We're talking to Caroline Spencer after 0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:06.840 ten o'clock. She's got she's the Order to General. There's 0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:08.879 the amount of money some of these Metro councils are 0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:11.760 spending on entertainment past the pub test for you. 0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:14.120 Look, I went to. 0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:17.639 The briefing last week on the tabling of that particular report, Simon, 0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:19.879 and yes I do come from local government. I am 0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:22.159 a new member for Geraldson, but previous to that was 0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:25.200 at the Sharp Chapman Valley, both as an elected member 0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:29.840 and as an officer. So in this current climate, economic climate, 0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:33.520 any money public person money is under scrutiny and I'm 0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:36.160 not necessarily sure that this does pass the pub test, 0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:39.639 and that's what that report says. So best wishes in 0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:40.359 talking to Carolin. 0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:41.120 I'm sure she can. 0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:43.840 Give you some more insight into her findings around that report. 0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:48.280 It's interesting that it looks like there's been no breach 0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:51.840 of process, but I haven't heard Caroline talk about the 0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:54.600 pub test before, so yeah, we'll talk to her after 0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:56.639 ten o clock. The optics are interesting, Kurly, thank you 0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:57.879 very much for talking to us today. 0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:00.560 Thanks Simon war. 0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:04.840 Opposition spokesperson for local government. Yes, we'll talk to Caroline Spencer. 0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:09.840 The West has the story today. We had heard that 0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:11.680 the report was going to be handed down and there's 0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:15.520 a number of Perth Metro councils that are spending using 0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:21.400 credit cards to buy food and drink for functions, events, 0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:26.000 meetings and the like. It's probably money that is described 0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:30.000 in budget. We'll talk to Caroline Spencer after ten. I 0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:31.919 will always stick up for local government, you know that, 0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:36.000 but hard to stick up for this one. Pretty hard 0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:38.080 to stick up for this one. It's not a good look. 0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:45.280 And as Curly agrees with Caroline, Spencer, it's you know, 0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:49.280 we're in the middle of the cost of living issue. 0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:51.440 I don't know that it Nessie makes rates go up. 0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:55.959 This spending and councils will hold functions with community groups, 0:28:56.800 --> 0:29:00.400 hold meetings, run events. I'll always do that. How much 0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:02.720 they spend on it. I suppose we'll talk about that 0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:05.320 after ten o'clock today. It's eighteen minutes to ten. Thanks 0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:08.320 for your company today. Are you concerned, listeners? Are you 0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:11.960 concerned our yes no poll today about sentencing? Is it 0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:15.440 too lenient to give them? What we heard yesterday? Yes, 0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:17.280 is a forty one. Well we and the nose of 0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:20.160 nine back in a moment. Thanks for listening. In today 0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:23.880 we will be speaking to Caroline Spencer, the all powerful, 0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:27.640 all seeing, formidable order to general after ten today one 0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:30.800 double three, eight to eighty two. I've heard on this 0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:32.720 station and in the job that I do, I heard 0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:35.240 the term woke being thrown around a fair bit, but 0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:38.960 I've never ever heard it woke being used in reference 0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:42.360 to a inanimate object, the scooter. Dave says, these scooters 0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:45.520 are a stupid woke invention. Wow, we Dave. That's a 0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:47.840 stretch and should be banned. The councilors took them up 0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:49.479 blindly with no thought of what could go wrong. If 0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:51.440 you want to save the world, walk or ride a 0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:57.400 ride a bike. Dave Channel and Carl Langdon there scooters 0:29:57.400 --> 0:29:59.959 a woke invention. I think they're pretty cool. Scooters are 0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:04.320 they look? They are very much in the cross here 0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:06.960 is given the fatality of Saturday night. There's absolutely no 0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:09.640 doubt about it. We picked it yesterday that these councils 0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:13.000 will have to make a decision. All of the count Gelton, sorry, 0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:16.840 Calgooley and Albany have removed the scooters. There are scooters 0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:19.440 around the world that have been you know, cities around 0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:22.800 the world that have removed the scooters. I do get that. Yeah, 0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:25.120 maybe that part of it. You know, who would have 0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:27.280 thought that someone would get drunk and hop on a 0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:30.600 scooter and kill someone? I certainly didn't didn't think they 0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:34.000 went fast enough, But there you go. Andrew from Duncraig's 0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:36.080 has Hannah Beezley is busy working on the racetrack in 0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:41.200 her backyard, says Andrew. Thank you, Andrew. Troy from colleague 0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:43.719 so this pub test is after one pint or ten pints, 0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:49.880 Thanks Troy. One double three a eighty two Andy from Dianallagada. Andy, 0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:51.960 so many scooters around the city and local council are 0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:53.880 unused and a lot they've very dumped at every corner. 0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:56.640 It's very unsightly. They see how they can be making 0:30:56.640 --> 0:31:00.000 too much or a profit for the councils and businesses involved. 0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:02.720 If this tragic incident has provided clause for councils to 0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:05.160 back out of their contracts, they should think seriously about 0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:08.160 taking it. Thank you, Andy, appreciate it. Mate. You know 0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:10.960 there's bike and scooter high places around the joint as well, 0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:13.960 and I and I guess in those cases you need 0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:16.680 to hire the scooter off a person, right, so the 0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:20.520 scooter hiring person will make an assessment as to whether 0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:24.480 that person doing the hiring is fit and proper and sober. 0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:28.400 One double three eight at D two. Good day, Chris, Yes, Simon, 0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:30.960 good morning, How are you good morning? Well? Thanks, yeah, 0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:31.480 good good. 0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:34.520 I just wasn't exactly my point, but just one thing 0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:36.120 I did think about. I think I've heard Basil say 0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:38.560 yesterday about that you have to have a helmet on 0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:40.440 to where you have to wear the helmet. 0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:41.440 Before you can ride those scooters. 0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:44.440 Yep, one hundred percent don't. I work in the city. 0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:46.880 I see it around the city all the time. Two ups, 0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:49.160 no helmets. You look at them and you go, mind 0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:51.320 if they've got a credit card, you know what I mean, youngish, 0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:54.560 very younger, younger brigade. But anyway, that wasn't my thought. 0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:57.719 My client, so just very quickly though, I know they 0:31:57.720 --> 0:31:59.680 are good points you. I think you can, you know, 0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:01.280 you take the helmet, I out of the thing, and 0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:03.440 I think in some case you take a photo or 0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:04.880 present a photo and away you go. But you can 0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:06.959 take the helmet off. I don't know if you can 0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:09.080 hire them without without a credit card though, Chris, I'm 0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:11.480 not sure if you can. I stay corrected if that's 0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:13.520 the case, but yeah, keep going mate. 0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:17.120 Yeah yeah, So what about insurance? 0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:19.400 As you know, I ride a pushy a lot. 0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:22.920 I'm out here now dodging magpies, although it's not magpie season. 0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:23.880 But they're always about. 0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:25.840 Insurance. 0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:28.280 I've got my own. I don't pay rego, So for 0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:31.240 all the haters, don't hate me for riding my bike. 0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:33.280 While I'm riding my bike, I'm not riding my car. 0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:37.040 But I pay my own insurance premium every year while 0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:40.960 I'm on my bike. And I'm covered for salary, continuance 0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:45.840 and any damage that may occur from an incident accident, 0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:47.400 if I hit someone, I know, if I hit a 0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:50.479 car or a car hits me, I'm covered. And it 0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:51.840 doesn't cost a hell of a lot. 0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:53.920 So the private scooters. 0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:56.720 What they don't have to have any I don't. 0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:58.280 Have to have this as a cyclist either, but I 0:32:58.360 --> 0:32:59.200 choose to because. 0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:01.640 I'm smart, you know, because I'm on the road a lot, 0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:04.920 just wondering whether it should be a thing. 0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:08.040 Really good, really good point, mate, Thank you. So you 0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:10.120 need to be over sixteen to ride an e scooter, 0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:13.880 that's my understanding from what we heard from Darren Sivwright 0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:17.160 Copper who joined us on Tuesday. Thanks Chris. That yeah, 0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:21.880 so do And it's a personal choice. Does someone over 0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:26.120 sixteen through to adulthood who's riding an e scooter say 0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:28.960 it's properly governed to twenty five k's? Now are you 0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:33.760 taking out insurance? The notion of whether bike rider should 0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:37.600 pay a license fee is always alive and kicking. And 0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:40.680 I'm a cyclist and I don't mind that notion, you know, 0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:44.120 paying your way for the cycle ways. People who ride 0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:47.920 bikes generally in the main. There are some bad ones, 0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:50.960 but generally in the main are doing it for health 0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:55.120 and fitness reasons as well as commuting reasons and taking 0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:57.760 traffic off the roads. There's a lot of positives in 0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:01.960 what cyclists do. Not that not that'ss ever necessarily recognize that, 0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:04.840 but over the years they seems to different presenters. 0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:08.719 Give Leslie, Hi, Hi, thank you for taking my call. 0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:12.279 I just thought your listeners might be interested. I'm not 0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:15.399 normally a shopper. I'm very fortunate my lovely husband does 0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:18.080 all the shopping. But yesterday we went to a wooly 0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:21.760 store and I found it really difficult to get around. 0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:23.600 You couldn't get in the eye is, you couldn't get 0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:26.359 in the freezers. Lots of people were getting a bit 0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:28.960 angsty about it. And I've found out when I got 0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:33.200 to the till that they've cut out the nightfill, so 0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:36.480 they're trying to do it in the daytime to save money, 0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:39.480 to advertise to tell us you know how much saving 0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:42.520 that we're actually getting. And I just thought it was 0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:45.680 incredible that they'd make a decision like that making it 0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:47.000 difficult for people to shop. 0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:49.840 What woolies are we talking? Leslie? 0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:54.640 A victim the big there's a big one where my 0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:57.720 husband goes regularly. Anyway, when I got to the till, 0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:00.839 a beautiful young lady at the till asked her. I said, well, 0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:03.359 what the heck's going on? She said, Oh, they've got 0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:06.160 really mean and they're cutting out the night Ville. And 0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:08.000 I said, well, what about all the students. She said, 0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:11.280 don't we about the students? What about us? My husband 0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:13.680 and myself. He works in the day and we were 0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:15.440 doing a tag team with the kids so that we 0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:18.719 didn't have to pay fees for childcare, and then I'd 0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:20.839 come in and do the nightfill at night. And that's 0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:23.759 how we got through, you know, half times with the 0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:25.560 mortgage and you know. 0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:30.640 Really yeah, yeah, I Lezzlie. At first, the world done. 0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:32.480 I'm not having to go to the shops. That's a 0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:35.319 good bit of set up from you. We'll see what 0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:37.160 our listeners think, Leslie. I haven't noticed it. I go 0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:40.000 to Wool's quite a bit. I've got one near me, thanks, Leslie. 0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:42.080 Is that the case Woolies people, Wooly shoppers? 0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:45.440 Is there stuff being left in the aisles on palletts 0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:48.760 because the night Fields disappeared? I see the Nightfield guys 0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:50.920 all the time and around. If you know, if you 0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:53.239 go to the shops late at nine o'clock and when 0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:56.440 I go to is in Warwick and the nightfield dudes 0:35:57.200 --> 0:35:59.560 start coming out before the shops close and there's a 0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:02.759 heap of them. But have you noticed that or is 0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:05.200 it just because Leslie hasn't been to this shop for 0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:08.960 a while? And a statement that can be attributed to Neurons. 0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:12.640 So Neuron Mobility they run some of the scooters in 0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:15.680 the city of Perth, Beam run the others. Beam runs 0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:20.200 scooters right through wa So let's just to be clear. 0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:24.440 These are higher scooters that local governments hire out on 0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:28.240 their patch. This is completely separate to privately owned scooters. 0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:32.160 Can be attributed to a Neuron spokesperson. We respect the 0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:36.680 City of perse decision to temporarily suspend the East Cooters 0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:40.279 service while the investigation into this tragic incident continues. We 0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:42.680 are working closely with the counciland w Police and our 0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:45.640 thoughts remain with the deceased family and loved ones during 0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:49.920 this difficult, incredibly difficult time Neuron goes on. We understand 0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:52.400 this temporary pause will affect many people who rely on 0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:54.280 the service to get around the city. And we appreciate 0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:57.080 their patients. We look forward to resuming safe operations as 0:36:57.080 --> 0:37:00.800 soon as we are able in close coordination with the city. 0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:04.759 That's a center a statement that has come out from 0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:08.960 neuron Mobility. Today. The scooters are being picked up by 0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:11.439 the scooter companies as we speak in the city of Perth. 0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:14.480 What will the other councils do? Get a bill? 0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:18.840 How are you good morning, Bowie, I'm pretty good mate yourself? 0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:19.799 Okay, well, thank you. 0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:25.560 Just a couple of instants in the news recently, you know, 0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:30.600 the young fellow that's been sentenced for the death of 0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:37.200 his friend, and this young tourist that's now in trouble 0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:42.600 for the manslaughter of alleged manslaughter of the fifty one 0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:48.719 year old mate that you know. I'm an ex prison office. 0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:52.279 I was fourteen years I've seen a lot of young 0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:56.760 guys that have come to jail for numerous offenses similar 0:37:56.800 --> 0:38:01.120 to these, and you know, in most of the cases 0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:04.320 the sendencing is very light. You know, there's no truth 0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:07.239 in sentencing. If they do the right thing, which most 0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:09.799 of them do, you know, they're out under you know, 0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:16.879 in half a sentence or less. Sometimes people that say that, 0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:21.360 you know longer sentences are under deterrent. I can assure 0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:26.160 you that they are. And you know, to say that 0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:29.720 a life is worth you know, three years out after 0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:34.840 half the time or whatever the case may be, really 0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:38.040 is an insult to the families of those who have 0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:43.440 lost loved ones. You know, it's something, it needs, something 0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:46.720 needs to be done. And I'm still a firm believer 0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:51.000 that if you, if, if if somebody was to get 0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:53.920 five or six or seven years for something like this, 0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:58.360 it would have a deterrent effect on other people that 0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:01.000 may find themselves in those positions. 0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:05.120 All right, mate, Okay, Bill, appreciate your thoughts. Thank you, 0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:09.680 no worry. Excuse me, Bill phoning in their high cherene. 0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:15.000 Hi phone, just to know it's not just happening in Woolworth. 0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:18.520 In relation to the night filled people not sort of 0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:21.440 being there as much as they used to be. The 0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:23.520 other day, I found myself in coals and it was 0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:27.719 the same thing. And now that I'm retired, I'm sort 0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:29.520 of at the shops at different times of day and 0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:31.200 i find I'm trying to have to get out of 0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:33.759 the way of the shop of the night, of the 0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:36.560 people filling the shells. They've got their big tolleys for 0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:39.960 the stacks of goods and I'm in the way. So 0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:43.160 it's all about the almighty dollar, I'm afraid. 0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:45.560 Yeah, I guess so, Hey, Cheren, can I ask you? 0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:46.640 Is it is this? Coal's? 0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:46.960 Is it? 0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:47.960 Ida? Aldi? 0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:48.400 What is it? 0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:55.680 Yeah, it's coles, not so much Aldi. Generally wool is 0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:59.600 and coals Aldi don't seem Yeah. 0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:03.719 And don't know this Is it because they're selling out 0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:05.279 of stock during the day and need to replace it 0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:07.879 during the day or is it that they have done 0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:08.759 away with night fill? 0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:13.120 Don't get me started on this. All I notice is 0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:22.239 that they're Yeah, half the shells are empty with all 0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:26.520 the special stuff are gone because people are really watching 0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:29.200 their dollars and everyone's struggling with the cost of food. 0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:32.959 I've never even known what a cost of a liter 0:40:33.040 --> 0:40:37.799 of milk was until just recently. I just noticed that 0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:44.279 the shells are empty, weather specials are And what I 0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:46.360 have noticed in particular, and this is the thing that 0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:49.800 really irks me, excuse me, I've got a coke frogm 0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:54.279 my throat is that the biscuits and the lollies have 0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:57.440 always got two for ones and specials on all the 0:40:57.520 --> 0:40:59.440 junk food, not the healthy stuff. 0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:04.320 We never get a healthy stay or organic crush tomatoes 0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:05.840 and never half price? Are they sharing? 0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:06.040 Hey? 0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:07.920 Yeah, Sreen, thank you. I'm up against the clock here, 0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:10.839 but I take your points so gapping in Cole's as well? 0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:13.839 Is it listeners because Coles and Willies are selling stock 0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:15.960 and need to reach plenge during the day or have 0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:18.480 they done away with Nightville? If you work in the 0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:21.200 capeart let me know. And lots of correspondence coming in 0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:24.439 on this. Do you a concerned about sentencing in general general? 0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:28.120 Given what we saw yesterday? Forty four yeses and nine 0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:30.239 knows well? We two and a half minutes to ten. Yeah, 0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:32.439 thanks for your company today here until one o'clock. Still 0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:35.800 to come on the show. Nick Marouchak talking legal matters 0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:39.800 from mki Leegal. That's after ten thirty and Mick Collis 0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:42.800 is in today. We will come back to this notion. 0:41:43.000 --> 0:41:48.360 Is Nightville our Nightville staff being has that process change 0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:50.759 so those staff being put to one side and the 0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:53.840 supermarkets are actually replenishing the shells during the day or 0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:55.960 is that just because they're selling stuff? 0:41:57.320 --> 0:42:02.520 Thanks for listening. Ten o'clock now what a song? 0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:05.840 Seven minutes past ten o'clock. Hope you are not downhearted today. 0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:08.759 We are running a POLLAIS concerned about senencing coming out 0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:12.960 of our judicial systems. The Children's Court yesterday handed down 0:42:12.960 --> 0:42:16.200 a decision three years than two months for the minor, 0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:20.000 the young guy who was driving when Nick Campo lost 0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:23.120 his life. We are being overwhelmed by yeses, the yes 0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:26.399 of forty six and the nose nine. John Hammond spoke 0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:29.800 to us and said, look, given what Children's Court President 0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:32.920 Hilton Quayle had in front of him, this was the 0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:37.080 right decision, I will say. And this was note that 0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:39.040 I think by John and by others, and we heard 0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:42.560 Bianchor Campo from outside the court yesterday. It has an 0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:47.160 incredible ripple effect on the families, loved ones, the young guys, 0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:52.680 the young girls were at the party, friends, family, relatives, associates. 0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:56.640 It has a huge, huge impact when something like this happens. 0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:00.200 My mind turns back to the fact that we still 0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:04.560 have four young guys who still get to go to court. 0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:09.680 These were four blokes speeding along South Street in Murdock 0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:13.040 ten to nine on a Thursday night, doing in excess 0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:14.680 for one hundred and seventy k's an hour when they 0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:19.160 were picked up four cars high performance vehicles, their parents' 0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:24.520 cars with walkie talkies, seats facing backwards. They were the 0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:27.439 allegations they were drag racing. They were racing each other. 0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:30.759 So it is happening, It does happen, and a lot 0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:32.719 of this comes back to all A lot of our 0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:35.440 listeners are pointed out maybe parental responsibility. Know more about 0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:38.160 what your young blokes and young girls are up to, 0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:42.399 and that's all correct and the other thing that comes 0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:46.200 out of it. John Hammond raised this point is a 0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:50.960 lot of young people do take significant risks when they're younger. 0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:53.200 There's absolutely no doubt about that. I'll put my hand 0:43:53.280 --> 0:43:55.719 up and say I did, and I don't think there'd 0:43:55.719 --> 0:44:00.480 be too many of us who didn't. Unless you're a yeah, 0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:03.240 you've been a minority. I would have thought nine minutes 0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:06.759 past ten, the yeses are forty six and the nose 0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:10.799 and nine. On judicial sentencing, we're asking the question one 0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:13.120 of a couple of our listens of Ringing today to 0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:16.000 say that what they see in the shops is not 0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:21.320 terribly pleasing. We do see shells being filled, big palettes, 0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:24.360 big trolleys, blocking aisles and the like, and staff refilling 0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:27.879 the shelves as they go Dylan's found in the Dylan 0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:29.600 Yay Bowie. 0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:31.839 There's no winners in their Nick Campaig death. 0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:33.040 Is there terrible? 0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:34.520 Certainly? Certainly not. 0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:37.880 I made I was up last week and the week 0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:39.439 before I was up through the north of the state 0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:42.520 through the Pilburn Gascoyne region and the woolies and coals 0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:47.319 up there, so the woolies in Canamen, the coals in Karatea, 0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:50.920 and the woolies in Newman to try and get fresh produce. 0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:53.040 There was hardly anything there and the stuff that was 0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:55.720 there was not good, and the shelves were I couldn't 0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:59.000 believe how empty a lot of the shelves were. I 0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:01.560 decided when I was Carta to go into the Ida 0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:05.120 and they seem fine. But yeah, I don't know what's 0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:07.280 going on. But given that they're coming into peak season 0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:10.160 up there, there's not a lot of produce there. I 0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:12.239 don't know whether the trucks are running late or it is, 0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:15.359 but you know they are. And also in town they 0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:18.880 are packing the shells during the day. Because I literally 0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:22.279 walked down aisles with the trolley and gone, well, I've 0:45:22.280 --> 0:45:23.759 got to go around to the other hold to get 0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:25.319 to the end of this sole because it can't get through. 0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:29.320 Yeah, yeah, it sounds like it is happening, Dylan. 0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:33.200 Thank you mate, thanks for calling in today. Yes, overrun 0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:35.680 with correspondence on the text line Vicky, Hi, Vicky. I 0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:37.440 think those big trolleys and Coals and WILLI is that 0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:40.600 lady was talking about. He's possibly more online deliveries being 0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:43.839 done than the shells being filled. Possibly both, But there's 0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:45.920 a lot of online being done now there is, Vicky, 0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:50.840 click and collect. Very good point. Dave davids Is on 0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:52.920 the subject of night fillers at Coals and Willis. I've 0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:56.880 been to a delivery to both, a delivery delivery to 0:45:56.920 --> 0:45:59.799 both and confirm these supermarket giants now bringing nightfield stuff 0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:03.359 around seven to avoid paying penalty rates after midnight. They 0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:05.319 even give Star three and a half hour shifts. There's 0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:10.160 no entitlement to a paid break. Thank you, David. We've 0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:12.920 had a Woolies worker call in says at his Woolies 0:46:12.920 --> 0:46:15.560 they still do Nightville, but at the fresh convenience product, 0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:18.399 so that's yogurts cheese meets the delis. They get done 0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:23.080 during the day. So a lot of people corresponding on 0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:28.760 this trolley's hogging the aisles. Hi Jeanine, it's not just Nightfille. 0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:31.800 There's also the home shopping collection trolley's hogging the aisles 0:46:32.120 --> 0:46:34.359 coles to shove the oisles closer together, put in more 0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:37.600 fridges for ultra process meals. I haven't noticed that, Jeanine, 0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:40.680 but thank you for your thoughts. And Jay of Carenbine, 0:46:40.760 --> 0:46:43.279 Hi j. The penalty rates for Nightville are much higher 0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:45.839 than day phil yep. Also, instead of getting eight guys 0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:47.759 for four hours, to get three guys for seven hours 0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:52.960 in daytime, cost effective for businesses, but lost jobs for students. 0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:56.920 Thank you, Jake, thanks for your thoughts. A lot coming 0:46:56.920 --> 0:46:59.880 in on this one. So you know, a combination of 0:47:00.440 --> 0:47:03.319 more online delivery, more click and collect. So that might 0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:05.759 be what some of the trolleys are there for. As 0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:08.040 I say, at my Warrick, at my Woolies which is 0:47:08.080 --> 0:47:10.040 in Warwick. If you get there at Court to nine 0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:12.520 and there's people everywhere coming out of that those back rooms, 0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:15.560 through those slats to replenish the shelves, it might be 0:47:15.600 --> 0:47:18.000 stored a store too, right, it might differ from storad 0:47:18.000 --> 0:47:20.719 a store. Thanks for listening. Twelve and a half past ten, 0:47:21.280 --> 0:47:24.040 Cool Bowie now on one double three. 0:47:24.080 --> 0:47:24.879 Eight eight two. 0:47:26.600 --> 0:47:29.640 Heard a story come through early this morning that there 0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:31.919 was an innocident of Nus Lombogan yesterday at a place 0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:35.480 called Mushroom Bay where a boat sank, and it involves 0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:39.279 some tourists and their families. Andy Wood joins us. Now 0:47:39.280 --> 0:47:40.080 he's a balley traveler. 0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:42.640 Gooday, Andy, Hey, Simon heio. 0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:44.440 Yeah, good to talk to you. So tell us what 0:47:44.520 --> 0:47:45.759 happened and when was it. 0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:50.840 So it was around prop the cord past four yesterday afternoon, 0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:53.640 just one of the standard sort of fast float ferries 0:47:53.840 --> 0:47:59.240 sort of barking the island. It actually was pretty rough swell. 0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:02.200 The captain of the boat made decision to sort of 0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:05.080 come in nose first and get sort of everybody to 0:48:05.560 --> 0:48:08.680 sort of board up through the nose of the bow 0:48:08.680 --> 0:48:11.520 of the boat. And these boats at the rear are 0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:15.319 actually open. The problem with that was as soon as 0:48:15.400 --> 0:48:17.640 people started sort of swelling on about one hundred odds 0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:20.879 so people the ways were all crashing through the back 0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:25.160 and flooding the boat. I think the captain made a 0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:27.839 decision to go, oh, we're taking on too much water. 0:48:28.080 --> 0:48:30.160 I need to sort of reverse out of here. But 0:48:30.239 --> 0:48:32.960 the problem would have been the reversing back into that 0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:35.760 swell just more came on, and when it got about 0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:41.600 one hundred meters out, it basically started capsizing and chaos ensued. 0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:42.520 Where were you? 0:48:44.160 --> 0:48:46.600 So I was in the middle of the cabin, standing 0:48:46.840 --> 0:48:50.440 with my wife and two children, thankfully sort of up 0:48:50.440 --> 0:48:54.279 towards the front third. My first sort of thought was 0:48:54.320 --> 0:48:56.480 to get the family sort of onto the bow of 0:48:56.480 --> 0:49:00.200 the boat, outside the small little hatch on the bow. 0:49:00.800 --> 0:49:03.400 The problem was one hundred other people had the same idea, 0:49:04.239 --> 0:49:06.160 and I think the majority of them couldn't swim, so 0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:09.760 it was causing a fair bit of anxiety and panic 0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:10.480 amongst people. 0:49:11.840 --> 0:49:14.160 And you're you're md water where you need to swim? 0:49:14.160 --> 0:49:14.400 Are you? 0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:15.719 Yeah? 0:49:15.800 --> 0:49:17.600 So look, I mean it was probably about one hundred 0:49:17.600 --> 0:49:20.840 meters out, thankfully not in the middle of the channel 0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:24.080 between the two islands, so you know, there were plenty 0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:26.480 of smaller boats around that sort of were able to 0:49:26.480 --> 0:49:30.200 swell in and kind of help rescue people out of 0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:33.920 the water. But you know, my first thought was, all right, 0:49:34.000 --> 0:49:36.400 get the wife and kids safety over to one side 0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:38.680 and then start trying to help people out and sort 0:49:38.680 --> 0:49:40.040 of pull them out of the water or get them 0:49:40.040 --> 0:49:43.319 onto other boats in between that. So we got separated 0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:46.919 from doing that. But look, at the end of the day, 0:49:47.160 --> 0:49:49.720 everybody got out safe as far as I'm led to believe. 0:49:49.800 --> 0:49:52.640 So preservation of life absolutely paramount, which is fantastic. 0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:55.759 So you're a Perth bloke, aren't you, Andy? 0:49:56.600 --> 0:49:57.960 I am yea born and raised. 0:49:58.160 --> 0:49:58.399 Yeah. 0:49:58.480 --> 0:50:01.879 So other are there Australians there or was it sort 0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:04.360 of a where was it? I'm presuming the mostly tourists. 0:50:04.360 --> 0:50:05.000 Where were they from? 0:50:05.880 --> 0:50:06.120 Yeah? 0:50:06.160 --> 0:50:11.160 Look, so majority, I think we're sort of subcontinent, you know, 0:50:11.239 --> 0:50:17.000 Southeast Asia, sort of India, Bangladesh. That sort many could 0:50:17.080 --> 0:50:19.000 not swim, I'd say the vast majority. That was probably 0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:23.040 only about a dozen of us, the Aussies, you know, 0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:26.120 and it was just you know, people who weren't sort 0:50:26.160 --> 0:50:28.360 of used to being familiar in water. And you know, 0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:31.560 from my perspective, once we were out of the cabin 0:50:31.600 --> 0:50:33.920 of the boat, I knew that even my kids, they've 0:50:33.960 --> 0:50:36.400 been swimming since it's sort of six months old, we'd 0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:39.720 be all right, yeah we're snorkeled off short and other. 0:50:39.600 --> 0:50:41.320 Times how old are your kids? 0:50:42.719 --> 0:50:45.040 So fourteen and my son's twelve. 0:50:45.160 --> 0:50:48.120 Okay, so there's sort of reasonably reasonably grown up and 0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:51.239 reasonably strong that could have gone horribly wrong for a 0:50:51.239 --> 0:50:51.760 lot of people. 0:50:51.800 --> 0:50:55.040 Andy, Yeah, look, it really could have, just because of 0:50:55.080 --> 0:50:58.880 the one point of exit was literally a small little hatch. 0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:01.600 I think the people picked it up the back where 0:51:01.600 --> 0:51:04.440 the water was coming in were real panic states, so 0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:06.800 people smashing the windows to try and get out on 0:51:06.840 --> 0:51:09.960 the sides and stuff. But it was, Yeah, it's pretty 0:51:09.960 --> 0:51:11.680 hairy for a few minutes. But I think sort of 0:51:11.680 --> 0:51:14.239 once some of the other boats came around to try 0:51:14.239 --> 0:51:17.360 and help with the rescue and people sort of making 0:51:17.400 --> 0:51:20.120 their way out, it was a bit easier. But I 0:51:20.120 --> 0:51:23.200 think particularly for those that couldn't swim, they probably could 0:51:23.200 --> 0:51:25.600 be fairly traumatized for the incident, I would think. 0:51:25.480 --> 0:51:28.520 So talking to Andy Wood, who was in Bali yesterday 0:51:28.560 --> 0:51:32.760 at Mushroom Bay when a ferry started sinking and capsizing, andie, 0:51:33.160 --> 0:51:35.719 were you going somewhere permanently? In other words, did you 0:51:35.760 --> 0:51:36.920 and others have luggage with you? 0:51:37.960 --> 0:51:41.200 We did, Yeah, So that all ended up sort of 0:51:41.200 --> 0:51:44.160 floating out in the ocean. They managed to bring our 0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:47.760 cases sort of back in fully water lobs. Of course, 0:51:49.520 --> 0:51:51.520 you know, all the bags and that that we had, 0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:56.440 they were all sort of soaked through, you know, electronic devices, 0:51:56.520 --> 0:51:59.600 all kind of fried, except the phones thankfully in your 0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:04.080 models or water resistant yep, yep. And the boat, mate, 0:52:05.080 --> 0:52:07.399 I'm sort of sitting on the beach right now looking 0:52:07.440 --> 0:52:10.040 at it five meters off shore. So they tried to 0:52:10.040 --> 0:52:13.520 tow it out, you know, basically back to the port 0:52:13.600 --> 0:52:16.640 and Similla yesterday evening, but couldn't get it over the reef, 0:52:18.200 --> 0:52:20.160 so they kind of abandoned that, and it's just literally 0:52:20.239 --> 0:52:23.480 floated back in upside down and just sort of hanging about. 0:52:23.480 --> 0:52:24.839 I've got no idea how I'll get it out. 0:52:25.320 --> 0:52:29.120 Yeah, yeah, wow. He Sometimes in Bali, those things just 0:52:29.160 --> 0:52:31.080 get left done. Andy, that's it too bad? 0:52:32.120 --> 0:52:35.400 Yeah, it's yeah. I don't know if they'll allow that 0:52:35.560 --> 0:52:38.040 sort of a couple of the local police sort of 0:52:38.040 --> 0:52:40.600 walking around this morning and heading up towards the ferry 0:52:40.640 --> 0:52:44.120 company office, so I think they'll be asking questions about 0:52:44.160 --> 0:52:44.880 it pretty shortly. 0:52:45.040 --> 0:52:45.239 Yeah. 0:52:45.800 --> 0:52:48.160 Taz, who works with us here, has just handed me 0:52:48.200 --> 0:52:49.880 her phone. It's got the photograph of the boat on it, 0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:51.680 and you're right, it's close to shore, but it looks 0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:53.320 like it's lashed to some rocks, so they're trying to 0:52:53.360 --> 0:52:54.520 keep it there, it would seem. 0:52:55.400 --> 0:52:58.680 Yeah, I think so it's I think it's about damage 0:52:58.719 --> 0:52:59.960 minimization at the moment. 0:53:01.320 --> 0:53:04.719 Yeah, yeah, maybe, I'm glad you're okay, Glad the kids 0:53:04.719 --> 0:53:08.000 are okay, And it's a it's a little bit of 0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:10.279 a miracle if you can have little miracles. It's a 0:53:10.280 --> 0:53:12.240 little miracle that no one perished. 0:53:13.360 --> 0:53:13.640 Yeah. 0:53:13.680 --> 0:53:16.360 Absolutely, And you know, I've got a still massive shout 0:53:16.360 --> 0:53:19.200 out actually for the guys over at Ballei High Cruisers 0:53:19.239 --> 0:53:22.120 and High Tide Resort who have been absolutely phenomenal and 0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:24.000 sort of taking care of us post event. You know, 0:53:24.040 --> 0:53:27.200 it wasn't there wasn't their company, but they've really stepped 0:53:27.239 --> 0:53:30.279 up to help us out, which is greatly appreciated, great 0:53:30.320 --> 0:53:30.880 Perth company. 0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:33.360 Absolutely, Yeah, for sure, Thanks Andy, thanks to to us. 0:53:33.360 --> 0:53:36.959 Glad you're safe, Glad everyone's okay. Yeah, so thanks Amy, 0:53:37.080 --> 0:53:39.640 cheers mate, Andy, would Barley traveler. Thanks to Taz for 0:53:39.800 --> 0:53:43.279 the photo that could have gone terribly terribly wrong. There 0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:45.440 is an outlying reef, so the waves come through this 0:53:45.520 --> 0:53:48.000 well come through there does come through. One hundred people 0:53:48.000 --> 0:53:52.120 on board, most of them couldn't swim. How's that It 0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:54.319 is a nineteen minutes past ten o'clock. If you like 0:53:54.320 --> 0:53:57.000 to phone in that you can Jerry, stay there, mate, 0:53:57.000 --> 0:53:59.879 I'll get to you in just a moment. The order 0:53:59.920 --> 0:54:05.320 to general Caroline Spencer has run the ruler her ruler 0:54:05.440 --> 0:54:09.399 under local government spending on fine dining, or what she's 0:54:09.400 --> 0:54:13.200 describing as fine dining. No, no actual transgressions or breaches 0:54:13.239 --> 0:54:17.320 of process, but in Caroline's opinion, doesn't pass the pub test. 0:54:17.560 --> 0:54:21.600 Stay listening, Yeah, thanks for listening in today. We appreciate 0:54:21.640 --> 0:54:24.280 your time. We've had a lot of calls about Coals 0:54:24.280 --> 0:54:27.560 and Woolies maybe stacking shells during the day or maybe 0:54:27.680 --> 0:54:31.480 using their trolleys and their palettes to provide the online 0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:34.360 shopping service for click and collect. But it does appear 0:54:34.360 --> 0:54:36.120 over the last couple of months people have found it 0:54:36.160 --> 0:54:39.239 inconvenience to shopping the Big two because the amount of 0:54:39.560 --> 0:54:44.160 on shelf packing that's done during the day. I think 0:54:44.200 --> 0:54:48.520 it varies from store to store, but appreciate your thoughts today. 0:54:48.560 --> 0:54:50.160 And yet a lot of people saying, you know, my 0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:54.320 local Woolies or Coals now have allocated parking spaces outside 0:54:54.360 --> 0:54:57.400 the shopping center where people can can click and collect. 0:54:57.400 --> 0:55:01.440 It's a side of the times, I guess. Full disclosure 0:55:01.480 --> 0:55:04.399 from me, I've worked for a number of councils over 0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:08.120 the years, Shore of East Pilrishe of Wanneroo and others. 0:55:08.520 --> 0:55:11.000 I've never had a credit card. I've had and i 0:55:11.280 --> 0:55:14.719 never wanted one. I also worked the West Australian Local 0:55:14.760 --> 0:55:18.160 Government Association for WOLGA. Full disclosure from me right there, 0:55:18.520 --> 0:55:21.160 So pretty hard to defend this one. A number of 0:55:21.160 --> 0:55:25.400 councils have had the ruler drawn underneath them by Caroline 0:55:25.400 --> 0:55:30.000 Spencer and her Superdepartment of Auditors on steroids, and the 0:55:30.160 --> 0:55:34.040 WA Auditor General has filed a report six major councils 0:55:34.040 --> 0:55:38.520 in Perth. No transgressions or breaches as such, it would seem, 0:55:38.880 --> 0:55:40.440 but there doesn't seem to be a clear set of 0:55:40.560 --> 0:55:43.400 rules around what councils can spend money on when it 0:55:43.400 --> 0:55:47.360 comes to when it comes to food and beverages and catering. 0:55:47.480 --> 0:55:51.200 Caroline Spencer joins us now hig Caroline Hi Simon, good 0:55:51.239 --> 0:55:53.120 to talk to you. Is that a fair assessment? 0:55:54.080 --> 0:55:56.240 Yes it is. Look, this isn't this isn't a damning 0:55:56.280 --> 0:55:58.279 report and it could have been so much worse. You know, 0:55:58.280 --> 0:56:01.120 we've got lots of purchasing and credit cards being used 0:56:01.120 --> 0:56:03.960 by local governments and it's important to recognize that this 0:56:04.080 --> 0:56:06.480 is you know, a legitimate means of expenditure. You know, 0:56:06.520 --> 0:56:10.719 you cannot renew it software in many cases without a 0:56:10.719 --> 0:56:13.880 credit card, so you know, they are an important means 0:56:13.880 --> 0:56:18.200 of you know, public expenditure. And you know, we could 0:56:18.239 --> 0:56:20.839 have found that there was personal use in the whole 0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:25.280 bunch of inappropriate use with credit cards, and we didn't 0:56:25.320 --> 0:56:28.520 find that it was pervasive, if you like, it wasn't 0:56:28.840 --> 0:56:31.680 you know, people spending public money on a lot of 0:56:31.719 --> 0:56:34.120 personal things. But what we did highlight on the report 0:56:34.760 --> 0:56:36.920 that is that there are some items of expenditure that 0:56:37.000 --> 0:56:39.640 seem excessive and out of line with community expectations. And 0:56:39.640 --> 0:56:42.520 that was certainly the view of my team, where you know, 0:56:42.520 --> 0:56:44.880 when you compare with practices in the state public sector 0:56:46.120 --> 0:56:50.040 that it just wasn't aligned, you know, French Champagne, we saw, 0:56:51.600 --> 0:56:54.120 we saw some off site meetings with oysters and those 0:56:54.160 --> 0:56:56.439 sorts of assignment. And so what this order really does 0:56:56.560 --> 0:57:01.240 is remind public offices, whether they were elected men, administrative staff, 0:57:01.280 --> 0:57:03.319 not just in local government but state sector atornity, you're 0:57:03.320 --> 0:57:06.440 spending other people's money, You're spending public money when you 0:57:06.680 --> 0:57:09.640 every time you every time you purchase something, and to 0:57:09.719 --> 0:57:13.640 make sure that it's both reasonable, it's appropriate and having 0:57:13.719 --> 0:57:16.040 regard to where it comes from, and it comes from 0:57:16.080 --> 0:57:17.560 the public, the community's perse. 0:57:18.440 --> 0:57:21.400 You use an interesting fart phrase which I don't think 0:57:21.440 --> 0:57:22.600 i've heard you use before. 0:57:22.640 --> 0:57:25.480 It doesn't pass the pub test. You're a woman of 0:57:25.760 --> 0:57:29.880 rigor and diligence. I don't know how you measure. I mean, 0:57:29.920 --> 0:57:31.920 talk about programs like us have the pub test, but 0:57:31.920 --> 0:57:32.720 I didn't think you did. 0:57:33.720 --> 0:57:36.800 Look the chief armor to a pub talk. You know, 0:57:36.840 --> 0:57:38.400 we look under the covers and we say, you know, 0:57:38.440 --> 0:57:40.640 actually it's not bad run things that jabbing about the 0:57:40.640 --> 0:57:41.280 pub or. 0:57:41.280 --> 0:57:41.920 Around the barbie. 0:57:41.960 --> 0:57:47.280 But look, you know, like everyone enjoy a drink with 0:57:47.640 --> 0:57:50.840 friends and family. But with these sorts of things, you're 0:57:50.840 --> 0:57:53.200 spending public money. And I always use the guide that 0:57:53.320 --> 0:57:55.200 if you're spending other people's money, you have to be 0:57:55.280 --> 0:57:57.600 more diligent than if you're spending your own. And I 0:57:57.680 --> 0:58:00.520 know you know from my interactions with local govern elected 0:58:00.560 --> 0:58:04.480 members and staff all my team's knowing tract with so 0:58:04.600 --> 0:58:07.880 many across the state, regional and metro and they are 0:58:08.000 --> 0:58:10.600 in the main good honorable people just doing their best 0:58:10.680 --> 0:58:14.280 to serve their community, often dealing with difficult, complex issues. 0:58:14.480 --> 0:58:17.480 They have meetings at night and providing meals and even 0:58:17.520 --> 0:58:20.160 the odd glass of wine. I would suggest Australian reasonably 0:58:20.160 --> 0:58:25.240 priced wine rather than full bars stoctor excessively. It's those 0:58:25.280 --> 0:58:26.880 sort of things that are fine, and I don't want 0:58:26.880 --> 0:58:29.280 to be if you like the fun police on this, 0:58:30.040 --> 0:58:33.840 but just remembering that to keep it less excessive than 0:58:33.880 --> 0:58:37.840 you would spend spend on yourself, because you know, this 0:58:37.880 --> 0:58:41.080 is other people's money. It's the hardened taxes that people 0:58:41.240 --> 0:58:45.640 have to pay to governments that really should be spent 0:58:45.680 --> 0:58:46.840 with care and diligence. 0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:49.480 So this is Coburn, the City of per City, Melville, 0:58:49.520 --> 0:58:52.560 vic Park, Trio and Subi and there aren't there's some 0:58:52.680 --> 0:58:55.200 you know, there's quite a number of things listened in 0:58:55.240 --> 0:58:57.640 your report. I mean there's some high end I agree 0:58:57.640 --> 0:58:59.919 with sixty eight bucks a bottle of champagne is too much, 0:59:00.440 --> 0:59:02.480 but there's also four hundred and twelve dollars for four 0:59:02.480 --> 0:59:04.720 cases of wine, which I think if there are cases 0:59:04.760 --> 0:59:08.080 of twelve, that's there's seven eight dollar bottles of wine. 0:59:08.160 --> 0:59:10.680 That's that's reasonable, isn't Yeah? 0:59:10.720 --> 0:59:12.840 Look, I think it is. And your maths might be 0:59:12.840 --> 0:59:14.960 better than me at this time. With the fullshit too 0:59:15.000 --> 0:59:17.440 I've got down here in Albany at the moment, but 0:59:18.520 --> 0:59:21.000 I think the team were when they were on certain things. 0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:24.960 The bars kept stocked with things, and yeah, French champagne 0:59:25.840 --> 0:59:29.600 for things. You know, it was excessive in their view, 0:59:31.160 --> 0:59:35.360 but making sure that when you're that there's guidance for staff, 0:59:35.400 --> 0:59:37.600 because I mean, part of the reason that we can't 0:59:37.640 --> 0:59:42.480 say it was inappropriate is because there are inadequate policies 0:59:42.520 --> 0:59:44.840 and guidance in local government and what is not nowable 0:59:44.880 --> 0:59:50.040 and reasonable businesses, and particularly around alcohol and travel and 0:59:50.800 --> 0:59:52.800 meals and entertainment and gifts and things. 0:59:53.080 --> 0:59:56.240 Yeah, as I say, the pub tests or the optics 0:59:56.280 --> 1:00:01.680 as we sometimes say, are important in these in the times. Caroline, 1:00:01.680 --> 1:00:03.080 why are you in Albany today? 1:00:04.240 --> 1:00:06.240 We look, we've got I have the privilege of being 1:00:06.240 --> 1:00:09.040 a State Records Commissioner along with the Information Commissioner, the 1:00:09.040 --> 1:00:11.720 ombudsman and an expert in archives appointed by the governor. 1:00:12.360 --> 1:00:14.320 And so this is our first regional meeting in a 1:00:14.320 --> 1:00:17.680 long term. It's a head of the bisoninery next year 1:00:17.720 --> 1:00:21.040 for the City of Albany, and so down here with 1:00:21.040 --> 1:00:24.480 the State Records Office staff having our meeting, but also 1:00:24.880 --> 1:00:27.720 a local history event that if your listeners are interested 1:00:27.760 --> 1:00:29.760 in coming along to exploring the history of the Great 1:00:29.800 --> 1:00:33.760 Southern Region through the archives nine point thirty tomorrow morning 1:00:33.760 --> 1:00:37.760 at the Albany Public Library and people can register through 1:00:37.800 --> 1:00:39.840 the library if they'd like to attend. And we're also 1:00:39.960 --> 1:00:43.440 meeting with local public offices in state and local government 1:00:43.560 --> 1:00:46.160 this afternoon and they can you know, we want to 1:00:46.200 --> 1:00:48.560 hear as the State Records Office staff and as the 1:00:48.560 --> 1:00:51.960 commission from about the issues that they find with the 1:00:51.960 --> 1:00:54.760 record keed because records are so expensive, they're so important 1:00:54.800 --> 1:00:57.960 in terms of accountable and transparent decision making and the 1:00:57.960 --> 1:01:00.720 foundation of our democracy. You know, if making decisions that 1:01:00.800 --> 1:01:03.640 affect others, if public officers are making decisions that affect others, 1:01:03.800 --> 1:01:06.320 having them documented, whether it's a planning decision of council 1:01:06.440 --> 1:01:09.040 or whether it's something massive like the Albany Ring Road 1:01:09.160 --> 1:01:11.360 or the decisions of the port, those things need to 1:01:11.360 --> 1:01:14.720 be documented. And so records and the precious ones archives 1:01:14.720 --> 1:01:17.120 are so important. And so I've had the privilege of 1:01:17.160 --> 1:01:19.920 inspecting state and local government infrastructure. We've just been up 1:01:19.920 --> 1:01:23.360 to the National ANTC Center meeting members and leaders of 1:01:23.360 --> 1:01:25.800 the community down here. It's been a great privilege and 1:01:25.840 --> 1:01:27.720 a very very intense and. 1:01:27.640 --> 1:01:28.680 Lovely few days. 1:01:29.000 --> 1:01:33.480 So nine point thirty meeting tomorrow and it's a public presentation, 1:01:33.600 --> 1:01:36.680 so no Dom Perignon or Coffin Bay Easters. 1:01:37.400 --> 1:01:39.840 Look, there might be the odds sand which you're s 1:01:39.880 --> 1:01:42.640 gone if we're lucky, Simon, but that's that's not what people. 1:01:42.480 --> 1:01:42.920 Are coming for. 1:01:43.040 --> 1:01:46.800 But yeah, if you're if the community is interested, registered 1:01:46.840 --> 1:01:48.800 through the library, it's going to be a great attendance. 1:01:48.960 --> 1:01:52.760 I've heard already. And you know, just just grateful for 1:01:53.200 --> 1:01:56.080 people coming and sharing their stories and engaging with the 1:01:56.160 --> 1:01:57.400 history of this fabulous place. 1:01:57.880 --> 1:02:00.320 Thanks for talking to us today and enjoy Albany and 1:02:00.360 --> 1:02:02.720 I agree that that Anzac sender is really something. Isn't 1:02:02.720 --> 1:02:04.560 as an extraordinary. 1:02:04.080 --> 1:02:06.640 Bit of kid up there had a glimpse of it 1:02:06.680 --> 1:02:09.360 early this morning. And yeah, we'll bring my family back 1:02:09.400 --> 1:02:12.960 to actually spend time studying the just beautiful and we 1:02:13.080 --> 1:02:14.920 have to remember, you know, we must remember. 1:02:15.080 --> 1:02:17.880 Yeah, absolutely less, we forget. Thanks Caroline, thank you for 1:02:17.920 --> 1:02:18.480 talking to us. 1:02:19.120 --> 1:02:20.640 Thanks Simons. 1:02:20.680 --> 1:02:24.840 Here Caroline spends a talking good sense. So there are 1:02:24.840 --> 1:02:29.560 five metro councils, so no transgressions, no breaches of process, 1:02:29.600 --> 1:02:33.800 which is what Caroline normally goes. You know what she 1:02:33.840 --> 1:02:37.720 normally looks at when she looks at agencies, state and local, 1:02:38.600 --> 1:02:41.439 no breaches, but says doesn't necessarily pass the pub test. 1:02:41.680 --> 1:02:45.360 And I guess that is pretty good common sense, isn't it. 1:02:45.360 --> 1:02:47.880 If you're spending someone else's money, you should spend less 1:02:48.000 --> 1:02:51.480 on than what you'd spend on yourself. Twenty eight and 1:02:51.480 --> 1:02:54.760 a half minutes to eleven o'clock. It is the way agency, 1:02:54.760 --> 1:02:59.439 you know. I hear my fellow presenters on this station 1:02:59.560 --> 1:03:01.840 talk about how big some of these council businesses are. 1:03:02.480 --> 1:03:04.840 I think I heard Eli say the other day that Nedlands, 1:03:04.840 --> 1:03:09.000 for example, who are for me to strife at the moment. Hello, 1:03:09.040 --> 1:03:13.040 Ely if you're listening, are a forty million dollar budget business. 1:03:13.080 --> 1:03:16.360 So these are businesses, and they on occasion need to 1:03:16.400 --> 1:03:18.680 operate like businesses, and they hold events, and they hold 1:03:18.680 --> 1:03:23.400 functions and awards nights, and they buy catering with credit cards. 1:03:24.240 --> 1:03:26.840 And see spends that you're saying, it's not your money, 1:03:26.960 --> 1:03:30.520 spend it wisely and appropriately. Not bad. Good ay, James, 1:03:32.360 --> 1:03:33.360 good nighting showing. 1:03:34.640 --> 1:03:37.160 I used to work for the federal government for far 1:03:37.240 --> 1:03:40.800 too many years, but for spending is just I mean 1:03:40.840 --> 1:03:43.800 it's all over the place that the excess. You know, 1:03:43.800 --> 1:03:46.600 you talk about going out, we could go out in 1:03:46.760 --> 1:03:49.480 half a dozen of a spend when we're in Canberra, 1:03:49.960 --> 1:03:52.160 you know, spend two thousand dollars on a meal and 1:03:52.480 --> 1:03:54.959 then better an eyelid. But you go to the Midi 1:03:55.000 --> 1:03:57.520 bar in your room, if you take a five dollars chocolate, 1:03:57.600 --> 1:04:00.280 you just get hunt. I thought that was quite odd. 1:04:01.800 --> 1:04:06.000 But somewhere where you know where money spend, it just 1:04:06.000 --> 1:04:09.600 goes entirely unnoticed. There were new chairs brought into a 1:04:09.720 --> 1:04:12.920 meeting room. There are ten chairs. These chairs would be 1:04:12.920 --> 1:04:16.920 sat in six, seven, eight, nine times a year for 1:04:16.920 --> 1:04:20.800 a few hours each. Each chair costs one thousand and 1:04:20.840 --> 1:04:22.200 five hundred dollars. M. 1:04:23.680 --> 1:04:28.280 Well yeah, when was that mate, Well five years ago? 1:04:28.520 --> 1:04:32.360 Yeah, okay, all right mate, yeah, no, yes, thank you, James. I. 1:04:32.440 --> 1:04:36.040 This is a local government versus federal spending. You know, 1:04:38.160 --> 1:04:40.439 well there are you know, if you've worked in any 1:04:40.520 --> 1:04:42.960 level of government, I've worked in all three, you do 1:04:43.120 --> 1:04:45.600 see you do see excesses spending on some things, but 1:04:45.600 --> 1:04:47.800 it's always it is a budget and it's usually a 1:04:47.800 --> 1:04:50.240 budget that's transparent. The budget gets passed by a board 1:04:50.280 --> 1:04:53.480 or a council and then the officers spend it as 1:04:53.520 --> 1:04:58.360 per the budget. Aliens says, get a alien. The voice 1:04:58.840 --> 1:05:01.520 of is that was very well expressed by Caroline. Good 1:05:01.520 --> 1:05:03.280 to know someone who's taken interest in how our money 1:05:03.360 --> 1:05:05.280 is being used. The guilty councils will probably called a 1:05:05.320 --> 1:05:09.040 party pooper, but simply simply being responsible. Thank you, Aileen. 1:05:09.080 --> 1:05:12.040 Twenty six minutes to eleven o'clock. Nick Maruchak in next 1:05:12.040 --> 1:05:13.080 from MKI Legal. 1:05:23.640 --> 1:05:24.360 Some good news. 1:05:24.240 --> 1:05:27.760 Emergency works in Como and qed Ow both completed, things 1:05:27.800 --> 1:05:29.800 moving as safely in both locations. 1:05:29.920 --> 1:05:31.520 Otherwise a good run Mitchell. 1:05:31.280 --> 1:05:34.960 Guanana Graham Farmer and the tunnel CBD moving well and 1:05:35.200 --> 1:05:37.800 Row Highway a little bit slow hazel Mere southbound at 1:05:37.960 --> 1:05:41.919 the bypass. I'm Robie verrom Perutz, traffic leader six pr. 1:05:42.840 --> 1:05:45.720 Good a, Nick good A Bowie, Good to see you. Likewise, 1:05:45.840 --> 1:05:48.840 busy out there, yep, very busy all right, working late 1:05:48.840 --> 1:05:50.120 at night, working on weekends. 1:05:50.320 --> 1:05:50.640 Yeah. 1:05:50.680 --> 1:05:54.560 And I'm also part of a startup. I'm doing a 1:05:54.640 --> 1:05:57.760 legal AI startup, so I'm part of the plus eight 1:05:57.800 --> 1:06:00.000 program which is sponsored by the state government. 1:06:00.160 --> 1:06:00.800 Also doing that. 1:06:00.920 --> 1:06:02.520 That's a really it's a great, great thing. 1:06:02.600 --> 1:06:03.000 So true. 1:06:03.040 --> 1:06:05.880 Yeah, okay, yeah, trying to help our lawyers become more 1:06:05.880 --> 1:06:06.680 efficient with AI. 1:06:06.880 --> 1:06:07.040 Yeah. 1:06:07.080 --> 1:06:10.280 It's everywhere, isn't that. I've always sort of tried to 1:06:10.280 --> 1:06:12.120 hold it at bay because we like to think the 1:06:12.160 --> 1:06:17.880 spoken word and live commentary, etcetera. Is important. But it's everywhere. 1:06:17.880 --> 1:06:21.080 It's a matter of time before it just ifistrates it 1:06:21.120 --> 1:06:22.480 becomes your entire life. 1:06:22.480 --> 1:06:24.760 I hopefully well still need for humans, Nick, like yourself 1:06:24.800 --> 1:06:28.200 and me and James and Ann and Sean. If you 1:06:28.200 --> 1:06:30.280 want to speak to Nick Muchet, you can wonderble three 1:06:30.320 --> 1:06:33.760 A eighty two. We've had a text and you might 1:06:33.760 --> 1:06:35.520 be able to address this for me. Get a John O. 1:06:35.920 --> 1:06:37.520 He says, why are those kids that were doing the 1:06:37.600 --> 1:06:40.280 racing not named in shame? Their faces passed over the news, 1:06:40.320 --> 1:06:43.280 news and newspapers, so they are shamed in public. Thank you, 1:06:43.360 --> 1:06:46.720 John O. Nick, We can't do that name minus. 1:06:46.440 --> 1:06:49.160 You can name people over eighteen, but in Wa, there 1:06:49.240 --> 1:06:52.400 is probably everywhere around the country, there are strict laws 1:06:52.440 --> 1:06:57.160 prohibiting identifying individuals under eighteen involved in any criminal proceedings. 1:06:57.160 --> 1:06:59.080 So you can't get their name, they face, their school, 1:06:59.080 --> 1:07:01.680 anything that can identify by them, so that's against the law. 1:07:02.200 --> 1:07:05.000 And Another point to note is we have the Young 1:07:05.040 --> 1:07:09.040 Offenders Act, which provides a mechanism to wipe the criminal 1:07:09.080 --> 1:07:12.360 record if after they turn eighteen, and after there's a 1:07:12.360 --> 1:07:16.680 period of like a two year period of good behavior, 1:07:17.000 --> 1:07:20.040 so that there is a mechanism. So generally you kind 1:07:20.040 --> 1:07:22.560 of get a fresh style after eighteen as long as 1:07:22.600 --> 1:07:25.600 you are good and when you get your criminal search 1:07:25.960 --> 1:07:28.760 it doesn't show. So there is that. I mean there's 1:07:28.760 --> 1:07:31.560 a whole policy ground for that, which is, you know, 1:07:31.680 --> 1:07:35.080 kids under eighteen adults, they don't have as much criminal 1:07:35.120 --> 1:07:38.600 responsibility as over eighteen. But as we know, as soon 1:07:38.640 --> 1:07:40.760 as you turn eighteen, your face can be plastered all 1:07:40.760 --> 1:07:44.320 over the news. And yeah, so it works, it works. 1:07:44.320 --> 1:07:46.640 Thanks John, No, thanks for your thoughts. We do need 1:07:46.640 --> 1:07:49.280 to be careful in talking about court cases on social media. 1:07:49.320 --> 1:07:51.840 This is in the rumor fhile this morning, have a 1:07:51.880 --> 1:07:53.880 listen from Legal Legal. 1:07:54.440 --> 1:07:56.760 I have to read this as it's written. Okay, what 1:07:56.920 --> 1:08:00.120 for logal reasons I do. Rumor has it that a 1:08:00.160 --> 1:08:04.600 popular Perth based mummy blogger has received a very stern 1:08:04.760 --> 1:08:09.720 email from an interstate court after speculating about a well 1:08:09.760 --> 1:08:12.520 known trial that is currently taking place and opening it 1:08:12.600 --> 1:08:15.600 up for comments to her followers. As we know, there 1:08:15.640 --> 1:08:18.360 are serious contempt of court issues in doing this with 1:08:18.439 --> 1:08:21.599 the trial currently taking place, and the court was quick 1:08:21.680 --> 1:08:24.519 to jump on the post, getting the blogger to delete 1:08:24.520 --> 1:08:28.080 it just under an hour after it was posted, by 1:08:28.080 --> 1:08:31.120 which then it had already had hundreds of comments on it. 1:08:31.479 --> 1:08:34.960 The blogger then posted again, explaining that she had to 1:08:35.040 --> 1:08:38.720 delete the post, but again didn't turn comments off, so 1:08:38.760 --> 1:08:42.679 it all started again. Comments have now been turned off. 1:08:43.080 --> 1:08:45.080 Don't say anything further about that, all. 1:08:45.040 --> 1:08:46.599 Right, So they've been published, haven't they? Nick? 1:08:47.280 --> 1:08:47.479 Yeah? 1:08:47.520 --> 1:08:49.240 By definition, yep, that's right. 1:08:49.320 --> 1:08:52.360 So basically this area of law is something it's a 1:08:52.439 --> 1:08:53.320 contempt of court. 1:08:53.400 --> 1:08:53.599 Right. 1:08:53.640 --> 1:08:57.040 So there's this special kind of word called sub judas contempt, 1:08:57.560 --> 1:09:01.760 and it's basically this right that prohibits publishing material that 1:09:01.840 --> 1:09:06.800 poses a real and definite, definitive risk of prejudicing a trial. Right, 1:09:07.160 --> 1:09:09.800 So you can't influence a trial. It's called the administration 1:09:09.840 --> 1:09:12.360 of justice. So what this really means is, and this 1:09:12.439 --> 1:09:15.120 is applus to everyone, not just court reporters. Right, you 1:09:15.160 --> 1:09:17.559 have to you have to make sure that the trial 1:09:17.600 --> 1:09:20.280 is not unfairly influenced. And some of the things you 1:09:20.280 --> 1:09:22.919 have to really be careful of is not to reveal 1:09:23.000 --> 1:09:25.920 any information that the jury is not aware of, right. 1:09:26.000 --> 1:09:28.720 So sometimes an example is if the accuse has a 1:09:28.720 --> 1:09:32.160 criminal record, that often is kept from the jury because 1:09:32.160 --> 1:09:35.360 that could influence their decision. So you can't reveal stuff 1:09:35.400 --> 1:09:38.000 like that. And you also have to really be careful 1:09:38.040 --> 1:09:40.559 when you're implying guilt or innocence of the accused as well, 1:09:40.560 --> 1:09:44.800 because that can influence things. So this is the right 1:09:44.840 --> 1:09:48.160 process the court has took. Because as we know social media, 1:09:48.439 --> 1:09:50.479 they have a long tail, which means that things are 1:09:50.520 --> 1:09:53.800 caged or kept on there. Even though the deleted screenshots 1:09:53.800 --> 1:09:55.960 are shared reshared, you can't get rid of something when 1:09:56.000 --> 1:09:57.519 it's on the internet. So it's good that they acted 1:09:57.600 --> 1:10:01.080 quick and really the best course there's just to stick 1:10:01.080 --> 1:10:03.280 to the objective facts that are reported that vituory is 1:10:03.320 --> 1:10:06.439 aware of, right, don't really go into territory of saying 1:10:06.439 --> 1:10:08.559 this person is guilty, et cetera. 1:10:08.760 --> 1:10:09.920 So yeah, yeah. 1:10:10.360 --> 1:10:13.000 Right, yeah, once published, it remains. So you and I 1:10:13.000 --> 1:10:15.360 did talk about an issue last week where something had 1:10:15.400 --> 1:10:17.240 been published and could no longer be found, and that 1:10:17.280 --> 1:10:20.360 does create issues. But usually there's a screen capture or 1:10:20.360 --> 1:10:25.320 there's a way of finding publications that have been have 1:10:25.439 --> 1:10:28.400 since been deleted. Sixteen minutes to nine, sorry, seventeen minutes 1:10:28.400 --> 1:10:30.599 to nine. If you'd like to phone Nick Maruchek call 1:10:30.640 --> 1:10:34.639 through one double three eighty two is the phone number today. 1:10:34.760 --> 1:10:37.519 Anything that you like there has been so I wanted 1:10:37.560 --> 1:10:41.559 to ask you about. There's sort of a almost a 1:10:41.560 --> 1:10:45.920 burden of truth threshold in different procedures. Nick. So with 1:10:46.040 --> 1:10:49.200 regards to with regards to the finees enforcement. With regards 1:10:49.240 --> 1:10:55.200 to the fines enforcement case with the Kimbley Publican, the 1:10:55.280 --> 1:10:57.960 WA Supreme Court found the Liquor Commission misapplied the law 1:10:58.200 --> 1:11:00.759 in a police back complaint which and there's now white 1:11:00.840 --> 1:11:03.960 hefty penalty against against two Derby pubs. Raises questions about 1:11:03.960 --> 1:11:08.280 procedural fairness in licensing enforcement. So there are different and 1:11:08.400 --> 1:11:11.519 I'm using the term burdens of proof, which is which 1:11:11.560 --> 1:11:14.280 is my phrase, and it's probably not a legal too, 1:11:14.920 --> 1:11:18.320 but in different in different jurisdictions, that the burden of 1:11:18.360 --> 1:11:20.479 being able to prove something to be fair or unfair 1:11:20.600 --> 1:11:23.519 or legal or illegal can differ a bit, can't it. 1:11:24.280 --> 1:11:24.800 That's right. 1:11:24.920 --> 1:11:27.920 So when it's criminal cases, you have to prove beyond 1:11:27.920 --> 1:11:30.439 reasonable doubts. So there can be no doubt. And this 1:11:30.479 --> 1:11:32.680 is a much higher burden in civil cases such as 1:11:32.680 --> 1:11:36.360 this penalty hearing, it's on balance of probability. But this 1:11:36.400 --> 1:11:39.639 is basically a win for the pub Right. The police 1:11:40.000 --> 1:11:43.400 really went hard at this person, and for a breach 1:11:43.560 --> 1:11:46.679 of a I think it was like a liquor package, 1:11:47.600 --> 1:11:50.280 packaged liquor restrictions something like that. Right, So there was 1:11:50.280 --> 1:11:53.760 a breached. They got this big fine of one hundred 1:11:53.800 --> 1:11:54.799 and forty thousand dollars. 1:11:54.880 --> 1:11:55.160 Right. 1:11:55.439 --> 1:11:57.559 But the key in this case was one of the 1:11:57.560 --> 1:12:00.479 people in the commission that one of the decision makers 1:12:00.920 --> 1:12:03.600 wasn't present for the hearing, and so one of the 1:12:03.680 --> 1:12:05.560 judges was even president of the hearing and still was 1:12:05.600 --> 1:12:07.760 involved in making the decision. So I don't know how 1:12:07.840 --> 1:12:12.599 that kind of got through. So and then so the 1:12:12.600 --> 1:12:15.000 Supreme Court said, you can't do that. That denies the 1:12:15.000 --> 1:12:18.240 principle of natural justice. Right, So whenever there's governments involved 1:12:18.280 --> 1:12:21.120 and administrations, you have to have the opportunity to be 1:12:21.160 --> 1:12:23.559 heard and the decision maker, all the decision makers have 1:12:23.600 --> 1:12:26.519 to hear your case. So that was one that was 1:12:26.600 --> 1:12:28.960 really that failed. And the other thing is when it 1:12:29.000 --> 1:12:31.879 comes to this penalty, they really questioned whether the penalty 1:12:32.120 --> 1:12:37.080 was what was proportionate right, So it was probably a 1:12:37.120 --> 1:12:38.600 bit too high. So they sent it back to the 1:12:39.920 --> 1:12:46.519 Liquor Commission tribunal and hopefully it gets reassessed and re 1:12:46.600 --> 1:12:49.760 evaluated there. But yeah, it's good to see the pub win. 1:12:50.360 --> 1:12:52.720 But they probably spent a bunch on legal fees to 1:12:52.760 --> 1:12:54.599 kind of go through this whole fight, and it would 1:12:54.640 --> 1:12:55.800 have been quite an ordeal for them. 1:12:55.960 --> 1:12:58.559 Yeah, yeah, for sure. But one level three eighty two. 1:12:58.600 --> 1:13:00.680 If you liked to speak to Nick Marie today, Nick 1:13:00.720 --> 1:13:02.880 will we will take your break. It's fourteen minutes to eleven. 1:13:03.160 --> 1:13:06.120 If you have any legal questions of family law, questions 1:13:06.160 --> 1:13:08.800 to seize the states, anything like that, give a Nick 1:13:08.880 --> 1:13:12.000 Maruchek a call from MKI legal fourteen minutes to eleven. 1:13:13.320 --> 1:13:15.960 Have a query for Nick Maruchak from MKI legal. Give 1:13:16.040 --> 1:13:18.920 us a bell one double three two roses phoned in. 1:13:19.000 --> 1:13:19.599 Get a rose. 1:13:20.479 --> 1:13:21.679 Hi, how are you going good? 1:13:21.680 --> 1:13:22.040 Thank you. 1:13:23.720 --> 1:13:27.200 I have a question about filling out forms for the 1:13:27.240 --> 1:13:32.680 e portal for the court system. So I have to 1:13:32.720 --> 1:13:38.519 get a statement from a witness. So do I get 1:13:38.600 --> 1:13:43.479 him to I'm thirty two a or something? Do I 1:13:43.520 --> 1:13:45.839 get him to fill that out and can he type 1:13:45.880 --> 1:13:47.519 that or does he have to handwrite it? 1:13:48.160 --> 1:13:50.240 Okay, So yeah, you're going through a civil claim. It 1:13:50.400 --> 1:13:53.320 sounds like it, Rose, and the Magistrate's Court YEP Form 1:13:53.400 --> 1:13:56.120 thirty two Statement of Intended Evidence of a witness, So 1:13:56.120 --> 1:14:00.880 it's basically like a witness statement, so you could he 1:14:00.880 --> 1:14:04.040 could type it out right and it's basically his version 1:14:04.120 --> 1:14:06.519 in first person. So this witness will just say, this 1:14:06.600 --> 1:14:09.840 is what I heard, this is what I saw. Sometimes 1:14:09.920 --> 1:14:11.519 a lot we do these all the time as lawyers. 1:14:11.520 --> 1:14:13.519 We'll sit down with the witness, get their evidence and 1:14:13.520 --> 1:14:16.920 then type it out. So and the other thing is 1:14:16.920 --> 1:14:18.240 this is probably a side note that you know the 1:14:18.280 --> 1:14:20.720 software I mentioned that I was creating, it's actually for 1:14:20.760 --> 1:14:23.880 witness statements. So my AI software can record a meeting 1:14:23.920 --> 1:14:26.800 with the witness and it can create the witness statement 1:14:26.800 --> 1:14:29.640 before you. So Rose, if you want help, because a 1:14:29.640 --> 1:14:31.200 lot of lawyers actually don't want to don't want to 1:14:31.240 --> 1:14:33.400 use it because it makes them more efficient. So if 1:14:33.400 --> 1:14:35.719 you want to use it, Rose, you can use our software. 1:14:36.000 --> 1:14:38.320 You can record the meeting with this witness and you 1:14:38.320 --> 1:14:42.280 can get an AI to produce the witness statement before you. 1:14:42.320 --> 1:14:45.080 And then you have to tidy it up and check 1:14:45.120 --> 1:14:46.880 it of course, but if you like to use it, 1:14:47.080 --> 1:14:49.920 I can help you. And it's to win three months 1:14:49.920 --> 1:14:53.320 to create all two months and yeah, it's working really great. 1:14:53.360 --> 1:14:56.599 So if that hope that might help as well. 1:14:57.840 --> 1:15:00.920 Can I then have to that to the court and 1:15:00.960 --> 1:15:03.040 they stamp it and then I have to give it 1:15:03.160 --> 1:15:05.000 to the other party or. 1:15:04.960 --> 1:15:07.200 You upload it. You upload it to the court portal. 1:15:07.320 --> 1:15:10.040 So a lot of these filings are done online. You 1:15:10.040 --> 1:15:12.160 will have a due date to do that, so you 1:15:12.240 --> 1:15:14.400 upload it, the court will process it and then you 1:15:14.439 --> 1:15:16.400 send it off to the other side as well, right 1:15:16.439 --> 1:15:18.120 before the deadline in the court orders. 1:15:18.160 --> 1:15:20.200 So they then send it back to me stamped. 1:15:20.439 --> 1:15:23.080 Yeah. You when you file it with in the court portal, 1:15:23.080 --> 1:15:25.240 they'll have the processor and then I haven't done it 1:15:25.240 --> 1:15:28.240 for a long time, but you download it and they'll 1:15:28.280 --> 1:15:30.599 give you there's a court seal on the electronic copy 1:15:31.120 --> 1:15:33.639 and then you send it to them on the other side. Yeah, 1:15:34.160 --> 1:15:38.680 so it's all done online these days. And if I mean, 1:15:38.840 --> 1:15:41.439 if you can't if you're have in real trouble online 1:15:41.479 --> 1:15:43.200 that they do have exceptions. 1:15:43.240 --> 1:15:45.320 So yeah, that's how you do it. 1:15:45.080 --> 1:15:48.680 That help out rose thought of because if the other 1:15:48.760 --> 1:15:51.920 person's got like four witnesses and I've only got one 1:15:51.920 --> 1:15:53.000 document given to me. 1:15:53.080 --> 1:15:56.439 And yeah, I mean, look, if your witness on your 1:15:56.520 --> 1:15:59.160 side is not cooperating and doesn't want to provide a statement, 1:15:59.240 --> 1:16:02.519 then you can support of them as well. And that's 1:16:02.520 --> 1:16:04.920 where you would fill out this Form thirty two A 1:16:05.120 --> 1:16:08.679 with your best kind of evidence that you can you believe. 1:16:10.479 --> 1:16:13.880 Okay, I think I think I've got it. Okay, thanks 1:16:13.960 --> 1:16:14.439 very much for you. 1:16:14.920 --> 1:16:16.800 No staying in touch, Rosa. If we can help or 1:16:16.840 --> 1:16:19.040 if Nick can help, you will thank you for your call. 1:16:19.280 --> 1:16:21.439 Get a Phil Yes, gooday. 1:16:22.280 --> 1:16:26.599 I had a real estate agent managing a commercial property 1:16:26.640 --> 1:16:26.960 for me. 1:16:28.080 --> 1:16:28.720 At the end of the. 1:16:28.760 --> 1:16:32.080 Lease, the tenant I had a lot of bank rent 1:16:32.240 --> 1:16:35.680 and interest on the back rent that wasn't paid or 1:16:35.840 --> 1:16:39.719 was paid, and then at the end the agent never 1:16:39.840 --> 1:16:44.000 pursued to recover the money. So I actually took the 1:16:44.040 --> 1:16:48.639 tenant to court and recovered the money through the magistrate's court. 1:16:49.479 --> 1:16:53.240 But then the tenant wouldn't pay the money back to 1:16:53.280 --> 1:16:55.639 me directly. They paid it to the real estate agent, 1:16:55.680 --> 1:16:58.040 and the real estate agent took his commission out of it, 1:16:58.080 --> 1:17:00.400 even though he did nothing. Is he entitled for that? 1:17:01.479 --> 1:17:03.479 This is a good question, so that you want to 1:17:03.479 --> 1:17:06.040 have a look at his terms of engagement first, right, 1:17:06.160 --> 1:17:08.719 So I would imagine his terms and engagement pretty broad. 1:17:08.720 --> 1:17:11.559 That would entitle him to the commission received. You want 1:17:11.600 --> 1:17:13.160 to see if there's a term in the contract that 1:17:13.200 --> 1:17:17.120 forces him to go and pursue the claim on your 1:17:17.160 --> 1:17:19.960 behalf in the magistrates' court, So check the contract first. 1:17:20.320 --> 1:17:24.040 The other thing is there is law that says if 1:17:24.200 --> 1:17:26.600 an unfair contract term right, if a term and a 1:17:26.640 --> 1:17:29.559 consumer contract is unfair, that can be challenged. So on 1:17:29.600 --> 1:17:32.080 the face of it, I think that there's probably an 1:17:32.160 --> 1:17:36.559 argument that if you know he is getting commission unfairly here, 1:17:36.600 --> 1:17:40.080 so the unfair contract terms could apply. It's not clear cut. 1:17:40.360 --> 1:17:42.240 So you could write to him and say, look, I 1:17:42.240 --> 1:17:46.200 don't I think it's unfairly you're receiving this unfair contract terms. 1:17:46.280 --> 1:17:48.920 Give me my money back, and if he doesn't, you 1:17:48.920 --> 1:17:50.680 can threaten to go to the magistrates court and if 1:17:50.720 --> 1:17:53.640 her claims under ten thousand, when all lose, you're not 1:17:53.640 --> 1:17:55.519 going to pay the legal costs. So that's something to 1:17:55.560 --> 1:17:57.400 try and try and recover as much as you can. 1:17:57.520 --> 1:18:00.400 The other thing is Department of Commerce regulates this intry 1:18:00.800 --> 1:18:02.880 so just check with them to see if there's any 1:18:03.120 --> 1:18:06.840 procedures that real estate agent have to follow in these circumstances, 1:18:06.880 --> 1:18:08.680 and just to see if there's been any rules that 1:18:08.680 --> 1:18:10.160 have been breached here as well. So they are the 1:18:10.200 --> 1:18:11.320 two courses you can try. 1:18:12.560 --> 1:18:15.479 Okay, thank you, thanks film good only mate. This is 1:18:15.520 --> 1:18:18.639 a text from Katie. Thanks Katie. A family member works 1:18:18.640 --> 1:18:22.080 at a daycare mention. They started a contract. When starting 1:18:22.120 --> 1:18:24.599 they can't work at another daycare center within fifty klongs 1:18:24.600 --> 1:18:27.320 if they leave the place she is employed at the moment, 1:18:27.360 --> 1:18:30.160 continues to hang promotion pay rises are over them, but 1:18:30.479 --> 1:18:33.080 without actually ever going through with it at face value? 1:18:33.439 --> 1:18:34.720 Is this actually enforcible? 1:18:35.240 --> 1:18:38.320 Great question? So this is called restraint or trade right. 1:18:38.600 --> 1:18:43.000 In unemployment contracts, sometimes there's clauses that say after you leave, 1:18:43.040 --> 1:18:45.120 you can't work for a competitor. Now, the way these 1:18:45.160 --> 1:18:48.640 clauses work is on the face of it, they are unenforceable, 1:18:48.640 --> 1:18:51.719 so their starting position wa is they're not enforceable unless 1:18:51.760 --> 1:18:55.439 the employer proves that they are reasonable. So this is 1:18:55.439 --> 1:18:58.040 the gray area, right, So sometimes they are reasonable in 1:18:58.080 --> 1:19:01.680 certain circumstances. In this case, I'm looking at this on 1:19:01.720 --> 1:19:05.599 the face of it, and fifty kilometers. 1:19:05.920 --> 1:19:07.519 Sounds at whole mature area. 1:19:07.680 --> 1:19:11.320 Yeah, I just I mean, this is just my initial 1:19:11.400 --> 1:19:13.599 view on it. This one will be hard to enforce. 1:19:14.800 --> 1:19:17.479 So I don't think this one would be like I mean, 1:19:17.560 --> 1:19:20.719 unless the person is really senior up or something like that, 1:19:21.040 --> 1:19:23.479 if they if they're working just in the regular job, 1:19:24.120 --> 1:19:26.000 then no, I don't think this with the court will 1:19:26.000 --> 1:19:29.200 probably enforce this one. And what normally happens is the 1:19:29.240 --> 1:19:31.479 employer really wants to go after you, they'll usually right 1:19:31.520 --> 1:19:35.040 to you first. Then you can try and negotiate with them. 1:19:35.160 --> 1:19:37.400 But look, I have to also give you the worst case. 1:19:37.479 --> 1:19:39.519 Worst case is if I'm wrong and I don't look 1:19:39.560 --> 1:19:41.640 at this one sounds like it's not going to stand up. 1:19:41.680 --> 1:19:45.080 But say if it does stand up, then you know 1:19:45.120 --> 1:19:46.920 that you go through the core process, you go through 1:19:47.040 --> 1:19:50.639 legal fees. It's a big nightmare. But most of the time, you. 1:19:50.560 --> 1:19:52.479 Know, it sounds like we're strained to try it, doesn't it. 1:19:52.560 --> 1:19:55.800 Yeah, So most that you know, employees don't really go 1:19:55.880 --> 1:19:58.960 after you for this unless you're causing them monetary loss. Right, 1:19:59.040 --> 1:20:01.559 So if you're causing financial loss, then they might go 1:20:01.600 --> 1:20:03.120 after you, or if you're really seeing you they'll go 1:20:03.160 --> 1:20:04.800 after you, or if they hate you, they'll go after you. 1:20:05.240 --> 1:20:07.800 But in this case I would say I would probably 1:20:07.840 --> 1:20:10.040 push back and say, no, look, this one is too 1:20:10.120 --> 1:20:13.360 it's too wide, right, so too wide. And if it's 1:20:13.360 --> 1:20:14.720 too wide, then it's not enforcible. 1:20:15.000 --> 1:20:19.600 Yeah, they go Katie. That helped Katie. I think that sometimes, 1:20:19.640 --> 1:20:22.280 and again depends on the person and the relationship with 1:20:22.360 --> 1:20:25.559 the organization in the media. Sometimes you know, work for 1:20:25.560 --> 1:20:28.439 another media outlet for six months or twelve months or whatever. 1:20:28.439 --> 1:20:31.400 It is like a sunset clause that it's not always applied. 1:20:31.160 --> 1:20:31.519 That's right. 1:20:31.640 --> 1:20:32.160 It varies. 1:20:32.680 --> 1:20:35.320 And there is laws that have been discussed that are 1:20:35.600 --> 1:20:38.719 potentially going through parliament to eliminate these clauses for people 1:20:38.800 --> 1:20:41.400 under the high income threshold, so if you're under one 1:20:41.439 --> 1:20:43.680 hundred and seventy five K. They want to try and 1:20:43.760 --> 1:20:47.639 reduce these laws from applying. So that's laws that being 1:20:47.680 --> 1:20:50.320 currently considered, and the government wrote a report on it 1:20:50.520 --> 1:20:53.040 and they reckon they'll add heaps of economic value and 1:20:53.080 --> 1:20:56.679 productivity to it. And they're really prevalent in certain industries 1:20:56.720 --> 1:20:59.880 like it headdressing. They're just they're misused. 1:21:00.120 --> 1:21:00.320 Yep. 1:21:00.560 --> 1:21:01.840 Let me put you on the spot a little bit, 1:21:01.960 --> 1:21:04.880 Nick maru Chak, where you're asking the questions today of 1:21:04.920 --> 1:21:08.599 our listeners. You're a lawyer. Are you concerned about sentencing 1:21:08.600 --> 1:21:11.200 in the community being too lenient? Given that the guy 1:21:11.640 --> 1:21:14.000 young fellow involved in the tragic death of Nick Campe 1:21:14.040 --> 1:21:16.479 a couple of years ago got three years and two months. 1:21:16.800 --> 1:21:20.240 Our listeners are saying yes, fifty four's nos nine. Are 1:21:20.280 --> 1:21:20.560 you a no? 1:21:21.720 --> 1:21:25.120 I am concerned that it's too lenient, that's my personal opinion, right, 1:21:25.160 --> 1:21:28.719 I think this is yeah, Simon, yes, because I think 1:21:28.840 --> 1:21:31.719 you know this driver he was old enough to drive. 1:21:31.760 --> 1:21:34.120 I'm sure he's under eighteen, but he's over eighteen now, 1:21:34.160 --> 1:21:37.840 but he was old enough to know right, right and wrong, 1:21:37.880 --> 1:21:40.000 so I think his sentence should be. 1:21:41.560 --> 1:21:41.760 Yeah. 1:21:42.240 --> 1:21:43.720 I'm a yeah, all right. 1:21:44.520 --> 1:21:46.680 Thank you for this week, Nick, look forward. Thanks for 1:21:46.720 --> 1:21:49.519 helping out our listeners and especially Rose with the offer 1:21:49.520 --> 1:21:54.559 of the of the AI transcription service and like it 1:21:54.920 --> 1:21:56.640 good idea. Hope it goes well for you, mate, than 1:21:56.760 --> 1:21:59.280 you give a little leaver cuddle for us and we'll 1:21:59.280 --> 1:22:01.120 see you next week. Thank you boy, See you mate, 1:22:01.160 --> 1:22:02.840 Nick maru Chack back next week, like you to have 1:22:02.920 --> 1:22:04.920 him three and a half to eleven. Mick Colos will 1:22:05.000 --> 1:22:05.479 join us soon. 1:22:20.520 --> 1:22:23.120 Sorry about that's hard to get good and reliable, punctual stuff. 1:22:23.400 --> 1:22:25.679 Mick Colos will join us after eleven. I've got plenty 1:22:25.680 --> 1:22:27.720 to talk about. Phone lines are open one double three 1:22:27.840 --> 1:22:32.280 A Daddy two. Thanks for listening in. We kicked off 1:22:32.280 --> 1:22:34.599 today's show with a yes, no question for you. Given 1:22:34.640 --> 1:22:37.920 what we saw yesterday with the sentencing around the minor 1:22:38.200 --> 1:22:41.400 M I. N O. R. Who was involved was driving 1:22:41.479 --> 1:22:45.000 the car when Nick Campo was killed. Are you concerned 1:22:45.040 --> 1:22:47.880 about sentencing in our judicial system? The Yester, the fifty six, 1:22:48.320 --> 1:22:50.040 and the nose and nine. Thanks for being part of 1:22:50.080 --> 1:22:52.439 it today. I'll bring you some of your thoughts on 1:22:52.479 --> 1:22:54.120 that in just a moment. Let's do this. 1:23:02.439 --> 1:23:08.200 Can I meet hang on, Simon? How long I've been 1:23:08.200 --> 1:23:13.160 coming here? Do you reckon? First time ever I've been 1:23:13.200 --> 1:23:17.080 given a glass of water? Thank you? Sean? Well done? 1:23:17.479 --> 1:23:24.120 Well I'm calling I'm calling incorrect. 1:23:24.439 --> 1:23:27.680 You think, to the man, why how many times do 1:23:27.760 --> 1:23:29.439 I sit here and someone says we'd like a drink 1:23:29.439 --> 1:23:29.760 of water? 1:23:30.760 --> 1:23:32.719 Well, I'm not sure about yours. 1:23:32.800 --> 1:23:35.120 M Fees could count on one of his three fingers. 1:23:36.640 --> 1:23:40.160 You might be maybe you're that beautiful mind is maybe 1:23:40.200 --> 1:23:41.880 the memory part of it's not working that well. 1:23:42.320 --> 1:23:43.880 You reckon, I get water all the time in here. 1:23:46.680 --> 1:23:48.439 I'd like to go on the videotape my back because 1:23:48.439 --> 1:23:49.040 there's no way. 1:23:49.400 --> 1:23:51.360 Well what about that time you complain you wouldn't get 1:23:51.400 --> 1:23:53.800 a biscuit? Yeah, so I brought you in like a 1:23:53.880 --> 1:23:56.400 pack of favorites with it, fifty biscuits, and you took 1:23:56.439 --> 1:23:57.120 the pack at home. 1:23:57.439 --> 1:23:58.759 You brought me a pack of a biscuit. 1:23:58.800 --> 1:23:59.760 No, I didn't. I bought you one. 1:23:59.880 --> 1:24:02.120 He put one or two on a plate. Hon't give 1:24:02.120 --> 1:24:05.080 me the whole packet and then we'll take That's why 1:24:05.080 --> 1:24:08.280 you don't get water, because you just take it home. 1:24:08.640 --> 1:24:10.920 You'll probably take that glass, that whole pack. I thought 1:24:10.960 --> 1:24:12.640 that was you giving me a packet week. That's what 1:24:12.720 --> 1:24:14.720 most people will give someone a packet of biscuit. It's 1:24:14.760 --> 1:24:17.040 not a biscuit if it's a gift. 1:24:17.360 --> 1:24:19.160 I don't want to have to get to a stage 1:24:19.200 --> 1:24:21.040 we have to strip search you when you leave, because 1:24:21.080 --> 1:24:24.120 you're taking their glasses and biscuits at one level. Three 1:24:24.360 --> 1:24:27.280 eighty two is the phone number today. You have given 1:24:27.320 --> 1:24:30.439 some money to a bloat, to a windscreen washing feller. 1:24:31.479 --> 1:24:35.519 It wasn't it wasn't. It was just so you come 1:24:35.520 --> 1:24:37.639 down the coast and you get to that the restaurant 1:24:37.680 --> 1:24:39.360 sort of at Latent Beach. Then you turn the left, 1:24:39.479 --> 1:24:41.640 turned back in towards the road. And then so I 1:24:41.680 --> 1:24:43.439 was on the the lights about to turn onto the 1:24:43.479 --> 1:24:46.360 new bridge, the free bridge. There was a bloke sitting 1:24:46.400 --> 1:24:47.640 there and he's on his milk crate, and you had 1:24:47.640 --> 1:24:51.000 a sign saying need money for food. And I thought, oh, 1:24:51.000 --> 1:24:53.559 the poor bug. If you're at that point where that's 1:24:53.560 --> 1:24:55.160 what you've got to try and get some money, you'll 1:24:55.720 --> 1:24:57.240 I'll give him some money. But I thought, I don't 1:24:57.240 --> 1:24:59.200 have any money on me, So I've got my credit 1:24:59.280 --> 1:25:01.680 card on have you? And I thought, I'll have a 1:25:01.680 --> 1:25:03.519 look in my in my glove box and around if 1:25:03.520 --> 1:25:05.760 I've got some money in me in the farm. I 1:25:05.800 --> 1:25:07.400 was in the farm yute, so I've got water dripping 1:25:07.439 --> 1:25:11.599 through the windscreen. So I've a batman as well, coils 1:25:11.600 --> 1:25:13.240 of rope in the back. And so I've gone off. 1:25:13.520 --> 1:25:15.519 I've had to pass him, but I thought I'll go 1:25:15.560 --> 1:25:16.960 around the blox. I went around the block and I 1:25:17.000 --> 1:25:18.439 looked and I thought, if I find some money in 1:25:18.479 --> 1:25:20.720 my glove box, I'll give him some money. He went 1:25:20.760 --> 1:25:24.160 around the block. Yeah, so I thought that's very nice. Again, Yeah, God, 1:25:24.400 --> 1:25:27.080 I just felt. I just felt, you know, my life's okay. 1:25:27.400 --> 1:25:29.679 So if I can help a blackout, I hope him out. 1:25:29.720 --> 1:25:31.840 So I've had my glove box and there's a fifty 1:25:31.880 --> 1:25:34.000 dollar note in there. Now I'm thinking, I'll hang on 1:25:34.040 --> 1:25:36.000 a second. How generous do I want to be here? 1:25:36.040 --> 1:25:37.720 But I thought I can't ask him for change, So 1:25:38.120 --> 1:25:40.479 I thought I'll give him. I'll give him fifty bucks. 1:25:40.479 --> 1:25:43.240 So I've come back around que there he's waiting, Now, 1:25:43.560 --> 1:25:47.000 give him fifty dollars. Yeah. So so he stands up 1:25:47.040 --> 1:25:48.600 and then the lady in front of me put and 1:25:48.640 --> 1:25:50.080 I put my hand out to get him to come 1:25:50.080 --> 1:25:51.840 down to me. And then the lady in front of 1:25:51.880 --> 1:25:55.240 me gave him a twenty, right, and then he's spoken 1:25:55.240 --> 1:25:56.639 to her, and then he's come to me, and I've 1:25:56.640 --> 1:25:59.080 given him a fifty. So this boke's on seventy bucks 1:25:59.080 --> 1:26:02.599 a minute at the moment, and you don't give to receive. 1:26:02.720 --> 1:26:06.599 But I thought he might say, thanks, that's free generous 1:26:06.600 --> 1:26:08.479 of you. So I give him in the fifty bucks 1:26:08.520 --> 1:26:10.479 and then he's just he's just ranted at me. And 1:26:10.520 --> 1:26:11.920 I don't know what he was saying. He was just 1:26:12.000 --> 1:26:15.000 quoting Bible scriptures and all sorts of things. And then 1:26:15.000 --> 1:26:16.599 he walked off and I said, mate, just make sure 1:26:16.640 --> 1:26:19.040 you grabbed yourself something something to it, and then then 1:26:19.120 --> 1:26:23.400 drove off. He gave you a little rant. Yeah, just yeah, 1:26:23.680 --> 1:26:25.760 you can't remember any of it now because it was 1:26:25.960 --> 1:26:27.639 I didn't have to kind of get into some scary 1:26:27.720 --> 1:26:30.759 territory about you know, death and all sorts of stuff. 1:26:30.800 --> 1:26:33.040 So I just I just kind of switched off till 1:26:33.040 --> 1:26:35.439 he finished, said, mate, just give yourself. It hasn't worked 1:26:35.439 --> 1:26:38.559 out that well, No, that isn't really would you like 1:26:38.560 --> 1:26:41.800 if you had your inflated, would you have if you 1:26:41.800 --> 1:26:44.200 had your time again, would you I'd go and get 1:26:44.200 --> 1:26:47.120 some change and then I so you would have turned left? 1:26:47.720 --> 1:26:50.040 Did you turn right? I went right, so right over 1:26:50.080 --> 1:26:51.519 the bridge, going to the bridge. Then did the you 1:26:51.680 --> 1:26:54.080 eat and then went back around and then back to it. 1:26:54.160 --> 1:26:56.680 Do look about three kilometers come back to the giving 1:26:56.720 --> 1:27:01.479 him fifty giving you something the Bible. So if you 1:27:01.479 --> 1:27:03.479 turn left, you could have gone to Old Bridge Sellers 1:27:04.439 --> 1:27:05.920 former bottle shop of the year, and he could have 1:27:05.960 --> 1:27:07.320 gone in there. They would have given you some change, 1:27:07.520 --> 1:27:10.640 so she had given him two dollars. I wondered if 1:27:10.640 --> 1:27:12.240 he gave the saying to the other lady. 1:27:12.360 --> 1:27:13.800 He did, because I was looking at her and I thought, 1:27:13.800 --> 1:27:15.920 I'll be really thankful to. 1:27:15.920 --> 1:27:19.200 Her rant he was just ranting at her. Okay, that's 1:27:19.280 --> 1:27:23.160 very unfortunate. Yeah, listeners, you're welcome or give us a call. One, 1:27:23.160 --> 1:27:26.320 double three atty two. Is the phone number have you 1:27:26.400 --> 1:27:29.240 recently given to someone on the side of the road. 1:27:30.200 --> 1:27:30.960 Is there a going rate? 1:27:31.360 --> 1:27:34.599 It feels like five or ten, doesn't that two or five? 1:27:35.000 --> 1:27:37.400 Yeah, yeah, I would have thought. I don't know. 1:27:37.439 --> 1:27:38.960 I mean, there is a theory that they're part of 1:27:38.960 --> 1:27:41.960 a you know, a cartel, and they get transported around 1:27:41.960 --> 1:27:42.599 from different places. 1:27:42.800 --> 1:27:44.519 Because this blake looked like you're doing it pretty tough. 1:27:44.880 --> 1:27:46.599 I see the same lady at the corner of read 1:27:46.680 --> 1:27:49.320 near and I see her there all the time. Yeah, yeah, 1:27:49.360 --> 1:27:51.880 she's often. I often think, I hope you got a 1:27:51.920 --> 1:27:53.960 sunscreen on. She's been out there all day in single 1:27:53.960 --> 1:27:56.080 it one double three, atty two. If you'd like to 1:27:56.160 --> 1:27:59.320 give us a shout, we have a story coming up 1:27:59.320 --> 1:28:02.840 for you that he involved ablutions. We're going to talk 1:28:02.880 --> 1:28:04.680 about that in just a moment. So this story was 1:28:04.720 --> 1:28:07.519 on Channel nine last night. I think Jamie Freestone might 1:28:07.560 --> 1:28:10.320 have had the story. But there's there's a business premises 1:28:10.360 --> 1:28:13.839 in the Northern Suburbs that has been I won't say randomly, 1:28:13.920 --> 1:28:18.680 but systematically targeted by a jogger who needs to do 1:28:18.720 --> 1:28:22.080 their ablutions to the full capacity. So we'll have a 1:28:22.120 --> 1:28:24.920 chat to the business owner and then just the moment. Yeah, 1:28:25.000 --> 1:28:29.080 it's a very unusual story. You spotted some crocheted flowers 1:28:29.120 --> 1:28:30.479 in a in a shop the other day. 1:28:30.520 --> 1:28:32.759 I was in the IgA, so not a fancy shop, 1:28:33.120 --> 1:28:35.719 and there was I thought there were flowers at first glance, 1:28:36.080 --> 1:28:38.679 and as and I thought maybe a first I thought 1:28:38.680 --> 1:28:40.000 I might have been real, But as I got close, 1:28:40.080 --> 1:28:42.080 I thought, I maybe they're plastic because they look very 1:28:42.080 --> 1:28:44.439 bright and colorful. As I got close they were. They 1:28:44.479 --> 1:28:48.439 were crocheted like someone's croy shaded flowers. And I thought, 1:28:48.720 --> 1:28:51.960 does anyone buy those things? Who would buy them? Would 1:28:52.000 --> 1:28:52.639 you buy one? 1:28:52.960 --> 1:28:53.600 I don't think so? 1:28:53.840 --> 1:28:54.639 No, who would? 1:28:55.400 --> 1:28:55.599 Yeah? 1:28:55.600 --> 1:28:57.840 Because anybody has anyone bought a crow shaded flower? And 1:28:58.200 --> 1:29:01.240 how is that a business? Crocheting flowers? Maybe it is 1:29:01.360 --> 1:29:03.519 maybe them make them a truck lin Let's find out 1:29:03.560 --> 1:29:05.720 but I just found it a really odd thing to 1:29:05.880 --> 1:29:07.960 crochet flowers for people to buy. 1:29:08.040 --> 1:29:10.000 And do you crochet in general? One double three eight 1:29:10.080 --> 1:29:12.960 eighty two? At the Lost Art I was, And now Rob, 1:29:13.040 --> 1:29:15.560 your favorite is your favorite. 1:29:15.200 --> 1:29:17.880 To crochet is a kid? Because my mum crocheted. Because 1:29:17.920 --> 1:29:20.479 the crochet that's the fairly thick needle, isn't it with 1:29:20.520 --> 1:29:22.519 a little hook on the hook? Yeah? I used to 1:29:22.600 --> 1:29:23.240 do it as a kid. 1:29:23.360 --> 1:29:25.720 So I I Rob has a gift, not a gift, 1:29:25.760 --> 1:29:27.400 because you can't take this away. It's not like a 1:29:27.439 --> 1:29:29.360 pack of the biscuits. This is just a show and 1:29:29.400 --> 1:29:32.280 show it here. Do your crochet one double three eight 1:29:32.360 --> 1:29:36.320 ed two. So my for my significant birth I had recently, 1:29:36.920 --> 1:29:41.120 my then seventeen year old crocheted me that that Rob's 1:29:41.120 --> 1:29:43.559 holding for you. Yeah, okay, well what do you think 1:29:43.560 --> 1:29:46.000 that is? I'm not sure it's there's a head there. 1:29:46.000 --> 1:29:48.120 There's a round, small round ball head. So I'm assuming 1:29:48.200 --> 1:29:52.000 that's your head in a wetex. 1:29:52.840 --> 1:29:55.439 West Coast Eagles colors. Yeah, it's like a Jacket's a 1:29:55.479 --> 1:29:57.600 jacket like a jacket. 1:29:57.560 --> 1:29:58.360 How would you describe it? 1:29:58.400 --> 1:29:58.800 A cape? 1:29:58.880 --> 1:30:03.080 A cake superher and you can see a little goatey. 1:30:03.000 --> 1:30:05.479 Like buzz say, the goatee is I think the defining 1:30:05.560 --> 1:30:06.400 detail on this. 1:30:06.479 --> 1:30:08.720 It's got a very round head. I don't know if 1:30:08.720 --> 1:30:11.280 that's entirely accurate. I'll leave that to your comment, Boie, 1:30:11.280 --> 1:30:14.559 but very well done. Yeah, so the jacket comes off, 1:30:14.560 --> 1:30:16.280 you can open the jacket. I'll give you the honest 1:30:16.320 --> 1:30:20.760 mick if that was made for me by Bella. And 1:30:20.880 --> 1:30:23.719 that is a little baby Simon crocheted. A little baby 1:30:23.760 --> 1:30:24.559 crocheted Simon. 1:30:24.680 --> 1:30:28.120 I like the detail. A shorts, T shirt and a towel. 1:30:28.880 --> 1:30:30.000 That's good. 1:30:30.120 --> 1:30:31.479 That was the first thing you did to lift the 1:30:31.520 --> 1:30:32.080 T shirt up? 1:30:32.960 --> 1:30:34.760 Why was it? See if you've got a six pack 1:30:36.040 --> 1:30:40.080 and he doesn't, thank you, Rob, Thanks, there's your favorite 1:30:40.280 --> 1:30:42.240 staff member. Yeah. So do people still crochet? 1:30:42.960 --> 1:30:45.880 Let's wind out one level three eighty two and have 1:30:45.960 --> 1:30:48.200 you do you give to people on intersections? Hei, Nicole, 1:30:49.760 --> 1:30:52.200 she's gone. Nicole's gone, Oh, yes, she has gone. Look 1:30:52.200 --> 1:30:54.320 at that. The whole screen's gone blank. Oh we lost 1:30:54.320 --> 1:30:57.160 our lost their tell comms. We'll come back in just 1:30:57.160 --> 1:30:59.120 a moment. It's quarter past eleven. We are going to 1:30:59.200 --> 1:31:02.360 talk to a business owner that's been It would seem 1:31:02.400 --> 1:31:05.360 me systematically targeted by what these days is known as 1:31:05.360 --> 1:31:06.360 a poo jogger. 1:31:07.160 --> 1:31:09.639 Because that's becoming common. Like there's a lot of pooh 1:31:09.680 --> 1:31:12.240 jogger stories that there are raised the head of now 1:31:12.240 --> 1:31:13.920 and that now you were a runner, yes, and what 1:31:14.000 --> 1:31:16.800 a note. And sometimes you do get caught out. Yeah, 1:31:17.040 --> 1:31:21.479 but did you find as a as a regular kind 1:31:21.479 --> 1:31:23.240 of runner? Was everything quite regular? 1:31:23.880 --> 1:31:24.120 You know? 1:31:24.320 --> 1:31:25.439 Sometimes you do get caught out. 1:31:25.520 --> 1:31:27.240 Yeah, you do get caught out, but like she's done 1:31:27.240 --> 1:31:28.920 it four times, She's been caught out in the same place, 1:31:28.920 --> 1:31:30.760 at the same place at the same time. Yeah, so 1:31:30.800 --> 1:31:32.240 that's not something you had to run a couple of 1:31:32.240 --> 1:31:32.920 blocks to get there. 1:31:33.040 --> 1:31:35.200 You do hope sometimes that you're if you're in Kings Park, 1:31:35.280 --> 1:31:37.640 there's an ablution block nearby you can use. Yeah, you're 1:31:37.640 --> 1:31:39.920 down on the foreshore or you know, running along the beach. 1:31:39.960 --> 1:31:43.519 But this person has been caught out systemically at the 1:31:43.560 --> 1:31:47.839 same place. So it's never happened to you never get caught. 1:31:47.640 --> 1:31:51.400 Out, not to the point where. 1:31:51.280 --> 1:31:52.720 You need to go in a public place, in a 1:31:52.720 --> 1:31:54.439 public place like that. 1:31:54.560 --> 1:31:57.920 And it's interesting she chooses the same ramp. Maybe the 1:31:57.960 --> 1:32:01.960 angle was good for yeah, I don't know, but yeah, 1:32:01.960 --> 1:32:05.320 but the vision it's like honestly, and you don't want 1:32:05.320 --> 1:32:07.000 to make light of it, but I take that mat 1:32:07.160 --> 1:32:09.120 It's like watching a pit stop in an F one 1:32:09.600 --> 1:32:13.320 like it's that quick. It's just in go on like 1:32:13.520 --> 1:32:16.160 it's unbelievable. If you put a clock on it, it wouldn't 1:32:16.200 --> 1:32:20.560 be more than three seconds. Yeah, okay, really well done. 1:32:21.960 --> 1:32:23.960 I knew you'd have a different take on it. We'll 1:32:23.960 --> 1:32:25.559 come back in just a moment. Of folks would love 1:32:25.600 --> 1:32:27.479 you to ring in, but just at the moment you can't. 1:32:27.479 --> 1:32:30.719 So we've have a little disagreement with their telecommunication system. 1:32:30.800 --> 1:32:33.879 So we'll take your cause in just a moment. The 1:32:34.240 --> 1:32:36.840 beautiful mind of Mick Corlis will come back in just 1:32:36.880 --> 1:32:39.960 a moment. Seventeen past eleven. Do you crochet? Have you 1:32:39.960 --> 1:32:41.599 ever purchased some crocheted flowers? 1:32:41.640 --> 1:32:43.759 And in the street. 1:32:48.640 --> 1:32:52.760 I'll come back it said, David says, Simon. Your show 1:32:52.840 --> 1:32:58.840 is so much better when Mickey's on. Thanks Simon, David, 1:32:58.840 --> 1:33:03.080 there's no need for that one numble three. Ady steven says, 1:33:03.120 --> 1:33:05.439 so Mick hasn't got a job and gives it gives 1:33:05.439 --> 1:33:06.120 a fifty a way. 1:33:06.640 --> 1:33:08.880 Wow, I didn't I didn't know it was in the 1:33:08.880 --> 1:33:10.479 glove box and I don't know how long would have 1:33:10.520 --> 1:33:13.200 been there for, and chances something's going to break it 1:33:13.200 --> 1:33:14.800 and I can't knock it off. I wouldn't have done anyway, 1:33:14.840 --> 1:33:16.800 So if I only gave it away because I didn't know. 1:33:16.800 --> 1:33:21.439 It was there, we have set and Barclay a task. 1:33:22.240 --> 1:33:23.679 You know, the other week you were talking about court 1:33:23.720 --> 1:33:26.760 sketches and how you can't take photographs of people. So 1:33:26.880 --> 1:33:32.360 Anna has taken a photograph of you. Yeah, and there's 1:33:32.400 --> 1:33:35.280 your two court sketches, one looking happy like you've had 1:33:35.280 --> 1:33:38.960 a successful fought outcome and the other one you love. 1:33:39.040 --> 1:33:40.680 One of the staff from Mad Max, one of the 1:33:41.240 --> 1:33:42.519 one of the guys from Mad Max. 1:33:42.600 --> 1:33:43.519 That's very fun, isn't it. 1:33:43.600 --> 1:33:43.880 Yeah? 1:33:43.880 --> 1:33:46.920 Wow, how clever is Ai? That's great? Yeah. 1:33:47.000 --> 1:33:48.640 So we'll try and try and get those published at 1:33:48.640 --> 1:33:51.320 some point. One double three, eight auty two? Do you crochet? 1:33:51.840 --> 1:33:55.080 Do you have you ever bought any crocheted flowers? Love 1:33:55.120 --> 1:33:57.280 to hear from you today, Maurice says, can you let 1:33:57.320 --> 1:33:58.840 me know which corner you gave the money on? As 1:33:58.880 --> 1:34:01.240 I may do the same, says Marie. It's just on 1:34:01.280 --> 1:34:03.800 the as you turn right to go across the traffic bridge. Marie, 1:34:03.840 --> 1:34:06.960 you have a new bridge across the trompation to turn right. 1:34:07.479 --> 1:34:09.759 Thanks this one here from Ryan. I know someone who 1:34:10.479 --> 1:34:12.800 who got three thousand dollars through pay ID from a 1:34:12.840 --> 1:34:15.200 drive while they're sitting at the lights speaking. That's pretty good. 1:34:15.400 --> 1:34:18.080 Three grand wow. 1:34:18.360 --> 1:34:20.759 Patrick says sorry that Mick had to suffer the Bible 1:34:20.800 --> 1:34:22.840 ram when he gave the bloke the fifty. I'll try 1:34:22.880 --> 1:34:25.160 to redeem the integrity of the good Book and quote 1:34:25.160 --> 1:34:29.120 Proverbs twenty one thirteen, which says whoso stoppeth this is 1:34:29.160 --> 1:34:32.120 at the cry of the poor, he also shall cry 1:34:32.240 --> 1:34:35.759 himself that shall not be heard, says Paddy from Bayford. 1:34:35.920 --> 1:34:37.759 Mick will be heard in his hour of need. Should 1:34:37.760 --> 1:34:41.360 one come? Amen, Thank you, says past the Paddy. 1:34:41.400 --> 1:34:41.960 Thank you, Patty. 1:34:42.040 --> 1:34:44.320 That's pretty good, isn't it. We would love to hear 1:34:44.320 --> 1:34:46.080 from you. One double three eight eighty two? Have you 1:34:46.120 --> 1:34:50.000 bought some crochet flowers? Do you crochet? I reckon it 1:34:49.400 --> 1:34:54.639 has been doing the rounds among younger people, Yes, young 1:34:54.720 --> 1:34:55.680 young women or my. 1:34:56.479 --> 1:35:01.200 Because why would that comeback? Why would that happen? Yeah, 1:35:01.360 --> 1:35:03.080 that just sounds a really odd thing for people to 1:35:03.120 --> 1:35:05.479 start crocheting, don't you. 1:35:05.520 --> 1:35:08.840 Think I do? Yes, but I can't speak for my 1:35:08.920 --> 1:35:09.599 daughter and her friend. 1:35:09.640 --> 1:35:13.400 No, but it's just a really odd thing. But look 1:35:13.400 --> 1:35:14.559 good on them. Good on them. 1:35:16.080 --> 1:35:17.639 Now, we've we used. 1:35:17.479 --> 1:35:20.840 To do mccrme when we were kids, and we used 1:35:20.880 --> 1:35:23.759 to make MCCRMEI things it used to hang pots in. Yeah, mccrme. 1:35:23.880 --> 1:35:24.000 Hang. 1:35:24.120 --> 1:35:25.600 We used to be at home or at school. I 1:35:25.640 --> 1:35:26.280 think at school. 1:35:26.320 --> 1:35:27.840 Yeah, because you made to do it at school, were 1:35:27.840 --> 1:35:30.640 you. You wouldn't do it voluntarily, would you. I didn't mind it. 1:35:30.720 --> 1:35:31.799 I found it quite relaxing. 1:35:32.000 --> 1:35:33.720 Well that might be why they crochet as well. 1:35:33.920 --> 1:35:34.919 Yes, good point. 1:35:34.920 --> 1:35:37.519 One, double three eight daddy two. Now we're a little 1:35:37.560 --> 1:35:42.920 mistified as to why someone would exercise their ablutions at 1:35:42.960 --> 1:35:46.640 a business on a regular basis. Malita Marky is the 1:35:46.680 --> 1:35:50.679 CEO of the Asbestos Diseases Society of Australia. H'm Malita. 1:35:50.680 --> 1:35:51.439 It is Simon and Mick. 1:35:51.439 --> 1:35:54.400 How are you hi, guys, I'm well, thank you. 1:35:54.439 --> 1:35:56.760 Now this is for those people who haven't seen the story, 1:35:56.800 --> 1:36:00.000 haven't seen the haven't seen the video. Can you explain 1:36:00.080 --> 1:36:01.920 it to us in your words? 1:36:02.479 --> 1:36:04.559 Yes, Look, it's a concerning issue. 1:36:05.200 --> 1:36:05.680 As you know. 1:36:05.960 --> 1:36:09.040 The Expective Disease Society has been around for fifty years 1:36:09.080 --> 1:36:13.200 supporting people exposed to asbestas and other dust diseases, and 1:36:13.240 --> 1:36:18.479 we recently expanded our services to offer a GP Family 1:36:18.560 --> 1:36:22.800 and Workers Clinic at our premises to support the community 1:36:22.800 --> 1:36:26.599 on a broader basis. And since December last year, we've 1:36:26.680 --> 1:36:32.120 had a jogger unfortunately use the rear of our office 1:36:32.400 --> 1:36:35.960 as their toilet as they're jogging along. So we've had 1:36:36.000 --> 1:36:40.240 four incidences of this over the last six months, and 1:36:40.439 --> 1:36:44.800 we became very concerned for the person's health and we 1:36:44.840 --> 1:36:47.120 wanted to reach out, and that's why we shared the 1:36:47.120 --> 1:36:49.920 footage to sort of encourage the person to come and 1:36:49.920 --> 1:36:53.320 see our GPS and get some support of their issue, 1:36:53.360 --> 1:36:57.080 because we've investigated it and it is a concerning matter, 1:36:57.200 --> 1:37:00.080 particularly on a hygiene basis and into health issue of 1:37:00.120 --> 1:37:03.000 the person who's gout issues. So we'd really like to help. 1:37:03.360 --> 1:37:07.240 And that is that is very indicative and reflective of 1:37:07.280 --> 1:37:10.439 your organization, Leada. You care for people and people's health. 1:37:10.800 --> 1:37:12.519 Is it the same definitely the same person. Is it 1:37:12.560 --> 1:37:13.880 a female, It. 1:37:13.880 --> 1:37:15.960 Is a It is a female. And we've had a 1:37:16.040 --> 1:37:19.240 number of joggers bring our clinic really upset about it 1:37:19.280 --> 1:37:23.480 because they feel it damages their reputation as the jogging community, 1:37:23.920 --> 1:37:26.120 and they have identified but they haven't given us a 1:37:26.120 --> 1:37:28.360 person's name, but they've said they've seen the person on 1:37:28.400 --> 1:37:29.240 their jogging. 1:37:29.000 --> 1:37:35.439 Roots, Melida, Because are you kind of being too kind? 1:37:36.280 --> 1:37:38.439 Like do you think that that person does need help 1:37:38.520 --> 1:37:41.160 or they just have to go and just their their 1:37:41.320 --> 1:37:44.360 body clock. That's that kind of that's when it kicks in. 1:37:45.760 --> 1:37:49.000 Well, look, well, the reason I feel it is a 1:37:49.040 --> 1:37:52.200 cry for help is because we've got these giant cameras there. 1:37:53.280 --> 1:37:56.879 They're obvious, and so I'm wondering. And they've also selected 1:37:56.920 --> 1:38:00.240 to do this at the Optomics risk clinics, so they're picking. 1:38:00.360 --> 1:38:04.479 It's not just us on different days, she's targeting different 1:38:04.520 --> 1:38:08.280 health organizations. So I do feel potentially maybe it is 1:38:08.400 --> 1:38:11.200 a cry for help. I can't believe that she wouldn't 1:38:11.200 --> 1:38:15.840 have seen the cameras, so from that perspective, but yes, 1:38:15.960 --> 1:38:17.960 you know, I am being a little bit kind because 1:38:17.960 --> 1:38:20.320 I also have to be firm in concern from my 1:38:20.439 --> 1:38:24.479 own workers, my staff who has come to work in 1:38:24.520 --> 1:38:28.760 the morning and realize that that evolution is there on 1:38:28.800 --> 1:38:33.599 the disabled ramp for our disabled clients to access the building, 1:38:33.640 --> 1:38:35.719 and then they've got to call out a buy hazard 1:38:35.760 --> 1:38:38.439 firm to come and clean it up because it is 1:38:38.720 --> 1:38:41.320 a buyer hazard under the Health Act, that person can 1:38:41.360 --> 1:38:45.920 be charged. So yeah, so it is a serious hygiene 1:38:45.920 --> 1:38:49.240 and health issue for the community and for other people 1:38:49.479 --> 1:38:51.800 that might come across it in other areas. That shows 1:38:51.840 --> 1:38:55.679 it because you know, as someone pointed out, if you're 1:38:55.680 --> 1:38:57.559 going to do a jogging route, you could pick it 1:38:57.640 --> 1:39:01.200 where all the VP's and all the partick health toilets are. 1:39:01.120 --> 1:39:01.559 On your room. 1:39:01.640 --> 1:39:04.120 Absolutely you can. And that's what that's what a lot 1:39:04.120 --> 1:39:06.120 of joggers do, Blinda. Is it true, There's a couple 1:39:06.160 --> 1:39:08.560 of things for me. Is the person running fast in 1:39:08.600 --> 1:39:12.840 other words, are they a runner or just a recreational jogger? 1:39:13.120 --> 1:39:16.040 And is it true that she is stopping her watch 1:39:16.320 --> 1:39:17.639 each time she rolls up. 1:39:18.760 --> 1:39:21.640 Yes, and that's what's been that's what's highlighted to us 1:39:21.680 --> 1:39:24.960 around the OCD mental health issue that they actually stop 1:39:25.360 --> 1:39:28.519 so they're not interfering with their timing as they're timing 1:39:28.560 --> 1:39:31.160 their route. So that was something that was concerning to 1:39:31.240 --> 1:39:35.120 our GPS looking at that picture. And also the fact 1:39:35.280 --> 1:39:40.080 of the actual ablution. It's not a healthy type of one, 1:39:40.280 --> 1:39:44.040 and that indicates gut issues and often runners have knee issues, 1:39:44.080 --> 1:39:47.280 angle issues, so they could be taking anti inflammatories. So 1:39:47.640 --> 1:39:49.559 we feel that we want to reach out, and the 1:39:49.640 --> 1:39:52.680 jogging community has said, look, we're going to encourage. When 1:39:52.720 --> 1:39:54.759 we see it, it gets some help because it ruins 1:39:54.760 --> 1:39:56.919 their reputation. Imagine people looking. 1:39:56.720 --> 1:39:57.640 At joggers like this. 1:39:58.160 --> 1:40:00.200 It's really unfortunate for that community. 1:40:00.320 --> 1:40:02.559 Yeah, yeah, it is, no doubt. All right, Hey Melida, 1:40:02.600 --> 1:40:04.720 thank you and keep up the good work with your 1:40:04.800 --> 1:40:08.599 day job too, lady, do an amazing, amazing work helping 1:40:08.600 --> 1:40:09.040 people out. 1:40:09.040 --> 1:40:11.559 Thanks me, Leida, Pleasure Simon, thanks for the call. 1:40:11.640 --> 1:40:15.360 Thank you Leader Marquis so taking pretty seriously but also 1:40:15.479 --> 1:40:17.080 showing some humanity. 1:40:17.360 --> 1:40:18.640 Yeah, yeah it is. 1:40:18.720 --> 1:40:22.679 It's you and I sometimes joke about joggers who jog 1:40:22.720 --> 1:40:25.040 at the traffic lights and like to turn their watch 1:40:25.040 --> 1:40:25.439 off and on. 1:40:25.600 --> 1:40:27.720 Well, os Rava, do you think she was turning the 1:40:27.760 --> 1:40:30.719 watch on? Like was she? Because as I said before, 1:40:30.760 --> 1:40:35.280 it's very fast, she's stopping start stops timing the ablution 1:40:36.280 --> 1:40:41.320 B because it's very it's very neat, and it's just 1:40:41.479 --> 1:40:43.680 I thought we had that in quite a grown up 1:40:43.720 --> 1:40:47.360 fashion until you started doing time in the abolution. You 1:40:47.920 --> 1:40:51.680 take the interview, but no it is. It's it's an 1:40:51.680 --> 1:40:53.240 odd one. It's an odd one. 1:40:53.280 --> 1:40:56.439 Doing it elsewhere, doing other places. I reckon, it's a 1:40:56.520 --> 1:40:59.360 jogger is getting caught out. Got a regular running route 1:40:59.400 --> 1:41:00.000 and getting caught out. 1:41:00.080 --> 1:41:01.880 Yeah, that's what's what I think it is. Because if 1:41:01.920 --> 1:41:04.120 he's turning a watch on and off, you're a serious jogger. Yeah, 1:41:04.200 --> 1:41:07.880 you do want to upset the Strava, which is the stats. Yeah, 1:41:07.920 --> 1:41:10.040 But nice of the leader to say it seriously, and 1:41:10.120 --> 1:41:11.840 it is good. And if the lady does have problems, 1:41:12.000 --> 1:41:13.320 I hope she gets them sorted out. 1:41:13.360 --> 1:41:15.920 And I think if if we thought that every person 1:41:15.960 --> 1:41:19.320 who turned off their watch, who was jogging every time 1:41:19.320 --> 1:41:21.040 they came to a stand still had O c D, 1:41:21.320 --> 1:41:23.440 and then all of them would have got them because 1:41:23.479 --> 1:41:26.200 they all do. We all do because we care about. 1:41:25.960 --> 1:41:28.880 Our times, you all do, and their diaries correct, yeah, 1:41:28.920 --> 1:41:31.200 and your heart rate monitors and heart rate all those things, 1:41:31.240 --> 1:41:33.040 and that's why we have success Minael. Correct. 1:41:33.360 --> 1:41:36.000 That's where you're just wandering around exactly, wandering around and your. 1:41:35.960 --> 1:41:38.679 Double plug exactly, Yeah, with nothing to offer. 1:41:38.720 --> 1:41:40.280 Has it been cold enough yet for you to tuck 1:41:40.280 --> 1:41:41.400 your single into your underpants? 1:41:41.439 --> 1:41:45.200 Are getting there? Getting there? But not. Market has been 1:41:45.200 --> 1:41:47.720 pretty mild, so we haven't actually had the really cold 1:41:47.720 --> 1:41:47.840 with it. 1:41:48.000 --> 1:41:50.240 Yeah, it's still being warms. It's about eleven. If you 1:41:50.320 --> 1:41:59.200 like the phone, mit Colers, you can get a Wayne. 1:41:55.680 --> 1:41:58.880 Or shall I say the Colossal? They say again, the 1:41:58.920 --> 1:42:03.120 colossal colin. I believe that he's actually bigger on the inside. 1:42:03.160 --> 1:42:03.679 Is that right? 1:42:04.400 --> 1:42:06.519 Well, like a tadas. 1:42:08.160 --> 1:42:09.320 I don't know. 1:42:08.880 --> 1:42:10.400 I don't know what you mean. 1:42:13.640 --> 1:42:15.880 I'll just bring it up, mate. You want might want 1:42:15.880 --> 1:42:18.240 to keep that fifty bucks. I believe it's actually illegal 1:42:18.320 --> 1:42:19.880 to put your arm out of the window. 1:42:19.640 --> 1:42:20.880 At the travel lights. 1:42:21.479 --> 1:42:22.000 Is it really? 1:42:22.160 --> 1:42:23.760 You could cover fine? Yeah? 1:42:24.000 --> 1:42:26.760 Wow, I hope you do that. You hope you hope 1:42:26.760 --> 1:42:27.280 I get a fine? 1:42:27.320 --> 1:42:28.360 Yeah? I hope. I hope it's on. 1:42:28.920 --> 1:42:30.200 No, I don't want you to get fine. 1:42:31.120 --> 1:42:36.000 I mention if you got fifty, you get a Bible rante. 1:42:36.439 --> 1:42:38.200 No, that's a good day, isn't it? 1:42:38.960 --> 1:42:39.160 Thanks? 1:42:39.200 --> 1:42:43.120 Wayne? Good for on your mate. How about eleven? Hello, Jillian, Oh, 1:42:43.200 --> 1:42:43.799 good morning. 1:42:43.920 --> 1:42:47.880 I'm listening to this program for over thirty years. Love it. 1:42:48.280 --> 1:42:50.960 But all your people that work on the radios, so 1:42:51.120 --> 1:42:54.000 she should get out and see families and your grandparents 1:42:54.080 --> 1:42:57.760 and your mothers and fathers and your children. Flowers have 1:42:57.840 --> 1:43:01.880 been crow shaded for many years. They sell them in 1:43:01.920 --> 1:43:04.080 most of the florist shops, so you must go to 1:43:04.120 --> 1:43:06.280 the shop. Do you ever go and see your grandmother 1:43:06.400 --> 1:43:09.599 or your mother or anyone that's in nursing homes. They 1:43:09.640 --> 1:43:13.680 all crowsher beautiful bedspreads everything and all the flowers. The 1:43:13.680 --> 1:43:17.280 flowers are very hard to scrosso. I have her twenty 1:43:17.520 --> 1:43:21.880 five year old engineered granddaughter who lives in Sydney. She 1:43:22.000 --> 1:43:25.080 grew out crosses them and you should have a look 1:43:25.080 --> 1:43:27.200 at what's going on in the world other than just 1:43:27.280 --> 1:43:28.160 being on the radio. 1:43:28.720 --> 1:43:31.200 Wow, thanks you, sir. So the crocheted flowers have been 1:43:31.200 --> 1:43:33.200 around for a long time, because that was the first 1:43:33.200 --> 1:43:34.839 time I've seen. 1:43:34.680 --> 1:43:36.560 Them go into. 1:43:39.479 --> 1:43:45.000 Wood Foal shopping center, not the big one, the big 1:43:45.000 --> 1:43:50.800 one going there, going there opposite walls, and there's on 1:43:50.840 --> 1:43:53.160 the corner there there's a florish shop. They've got hundreds 1:43:53.200 --> 1:43:55.479 of them there there all the time, and they've been 1:43:55.479 --> 1:43:57.320 there for years and years and years. One of my 1:43:57.400 --> 1:44:00.320 granddaughters brought me one well a few years ago, and 1:44:00.320 --> 1:44:02.400 now I've got that in my house and they're beautiful. 1:44:02.640 --> 1:44:05.320 They are very hard to make why don't you all 1:44:05.360 --> 1:44:08.000 get to with your grandparents and try doing some of 1:44:08.040 --> 1:44:11.280 these things out out of your line radio. 1:44:11.560 --> 1:44:13.120 All right, Gillian, you know you know why I knew 1:44:13.160 --> 1:44:15.280 whit was Whitford's jillion, because they get out in the world. 1:44:15.280 --> 1:44:16.280 We'll come back in just a moment. 1:44:16.280 --> 1:44:29.320 Feeding a track broken down in a Bateman the quanan 1:44:29.400 --> 1:44:31.800 a northbound exits a Leech Highway or west found that 1:44:31.880 --> 1:44:34.320 left turning lane blocks with the motorists outside of the 1:44:34.439 --> 1:44:38.360 vehicle otherwise moving well and Mitchell Quanana Graham Farmer and 1:44:38.400 --> 1:44:41.200 the tunnel Row Highway bit slow southbounds at the bypass 1:44:41.280 --> 1:44:42.080 in Hazelmere. 1:44:42.400 --> 1:44:46.679 I'm Rob Beaver on Perth Traffic Leader six PR twenty 1:44:46.720 --> 1:44:49.320 four minutes to midday chet GPT has done a couple 1:44:49.320 --> 1:44:53.040 of court sketches of myself there, Mick, can you can 1:44:53.080 --> 1:44:54.040 you describe them to. 1:44:54.000 --> 1:44:56.040 A happy one, happy one who looked like Lockie read 1:44:56.880 --> 1:44:58.599 but you've got your prison green T shirt on, which 1:44:58.640 --> 1:45:02.040 is good, and then the sad one. 1:45:02.160 --> 1:45:04.320 I don't know who you look like my dad? You 1:45:04.320 --> 1:45:06.679 look like your dad, dude, my late dad. Yeah, Well 1:45:06.680 --> 1:45:12.280 there you go. It's you look pretty miserable. It's quite bizarre, 1:45:12.439 --> 1:45:14.519 but the sad one. I think the sad one looks 1:45:14.520 --> 1:45:16.479 more like both of us looks like us, but the 1:45:16.520 --> 1:45:20.360 happy one doesn't look like it, maybe because they're both miserable. 1:45:20.880 --> 1:45:24.320 Hello LOCKI, Hello Loki if you're listening some text lines 1:45:24.320 --> 1:45:27.160 coming to the text messages. Hello Jess, Jess is only 1:45:27.200 --> 1:45:29.559 thirty five mix, he says, I crochet blankets for the kids. 1:45:29.600 --> 1:45:33.439 My partner bought me some absolutely beautiful flowers which dried preserved, 1:45:33.439 --> 1:45:35.200 and that had a few cratio flowers in amongst them. 1:45:35.200 --> 1:45:36.880 They are beautiful and still as the good as the 1:45:36.960 --> 1:45:41.599 day I got them two years ago. Thank you. There's 1:45:41.600 --> 1:45:43.200 a husband and wife team on the corner of one 1:45:43.280 --> 1:45:45.320 of a road and hepburn ab begging for money six 1:45:45.360 --> 1:45:47.320 days a week, fifty two weeks of years, says John. 1:45:47.360 --> 1:45:50.479 Thank you. John. Don't let Mick out in the world 1:45:50.479 --> 1:45:52.960 anymore than he's actually is at the moment, says Matt. 1:45:53.479 --> 1:45:56.160 And get out in the world, Simon, there's one of our. 1:45:56.320 --> 1:45:57.400 You do need to get out more. 1:45:58.160 --> 1:46:00.160 Yeah, that was good. 1:46:00.439 --> 1:46:01.200 To it like that. 1:46:01.880 --> 1:46:06.520 Two and a half minutes to midday, Hello Jenny him. 1:46:07.120 --> 1:46:12.360 Yeah, I knit so Kroscher and Vansian Kracher. So I 1:46:12.520 --> 1:46:14.280 do a lot. I was talking of a child by 1:46:14.360 --> 1:46:15.360 my late month. 1:46:15.680 --> 1:46:17.120 What was the last one, Jenny. 1:46:17.920 --> 1:46:19.320 Vanisian very chap? 1:46:19.560 --> 1:46:19.880 What's that? 1:46:21.280 --> 1:46:24.880 You do it? On one needle? You pick up all 1:46:24.920 --> 1:46:26.880 the skippers in the cast them off, pick them up 1:46:26.880 --> 1:46:27.800 and crust them off. 1:46:28.080 --> 1:46:28.280 Yeah. 1:46:28.760 --> 1:46:34.760 My daughter Bella Jenny she reckons crow shay is easy 1:46:34.800 --> 1:46:36.880 and knitting. It's a little more forgiving. Would that be right? 1:46:37.360 --> 1:46:40.200 Well it is because if you make a mistake, you 1:46:41.439 --> 1:46:42.240 under the rail. 1:46:42.400 --> 1:46:46.200 You need Yeah, yeah, right, thanks Jenny, well done. Passed 1:46:46.200 --> 1:46:46.720 on by a mum. 1:46:47.240 --> 1:46:49.280 Have you passed it on to Jenny? Have you passed 1:46:49.280 --> 1:46:49.920 it on to anyone? 1:46:50.920 --> 1:46:51.120 Yeah? 1:46:51.120 --> 1:46:53.439 I passed it on to my children on seventy three, 1:46:53.479 --> 1:46:55.799 both Croatia. 1:46:56.160 --> 1:46:58.519 Well yeah, that's cool, isn't it good? What do you 1:46:58.560 --> 1:46:59.439 pass on to your boys? 1:47:01.080 --> 1:47:04.000 Not a lot? I probably should, I probably should pass 1:47:04.040 --> 1:47:07.760 something on. What have you passed on? It's not the 1:47:07.800 --> 1:47:08.360 middle name? 1:47:08.960 --> 1:47:12.000 I reckon? No, no, I forgot about it. I did forget. 1:47:13.080 --> 1:47:14.880 Listens if you are not if you didn't catch meck 1:47:14.880 --> 1:47:16.960 and I the other week we've been we've had Robert 1:47:17.080 --> 1:47:20.479 in our names, back to the eleven the Battle of 1:47:20.479 --> 1:47:22.440 Hastings and I forgot. 1:47:22.320 --> 1:47:26.639 Yeah, didn't pass that on. No, no, forgot one job 1:47:27.240 --> 1:47:31.559 forgot I reckon, I didn't pass it on necessarily because 1:47:31.560 --> 1:47:34.600 he's actually better than me. Is there something you have 1:47:34.640 --> 1:47:39.320 passed on? He's pretty good on guitar, and you much 1:47:39.400 --> 1:47:40.400 much money passed it on? 1:47:41.000 --> 1:47:41.120 Well? 1:47:41.160 --> 1:47:44.360 He saw he always bought him guitars around me, you know, 1:47:44.360 --> 1:47:46.960 when we were playing. But he's twenty five thousand times 1:47:46.960 --> 1:47:48.760 better than runner, which wouldn't be hard. 1:47:50.000 --> 1:47:51.800 I think you're being a bit harsh in yourself, Simon. 1:47:52.360 --> 1:47:56.280 More stuff. I've got more expensive and better guitars than thing, 1:47:56.320 --> 1:48:00.000 Isn't it sucked in great ide sitting around even smash 1:48:00.000 --> 1:48:04.400 Stavo renting and I've got n guitars in the house. 1:48:04.439 --> 1:48:04.960 That's right? 1:48:07.520 --> 1:48:08.160 How can i vic? 1:48:09.800 --> 1:48:15.840 Yeah? Good aye? Simone? Talking about con jobs in the 1:48:16.040 --> 1:48:20.120 shopping center down south. I'm used to people asking me 1:48:20.240 --> 1:48:23.439 for smokes and money and that. But the bloke came 1:48:23.520 --> 1:48:26.600 up to me and he shid, hey, I've got a 1:48:26.640 --> 1:48:31.200 piece of paper for you. This is unusual. And when 1:48:31.240 --> 1:48:34.599 I undid it, it said, I'm mute. I can't read 1:48:34.720 --> 1:48:37.160 or write. Can you give me five dollars? 1:48:38.000 --> 1:48:40.160 Oh that's a new one. 1:48:40.280 --> 1:48:41.880 That is a new one. 1:48:41.880 --> 1:48:45.200 That was a good one I thought whispering, did you. 1:48:45.160 --> 1:48:47.040 Take did he take the piece of paper back? 1:48:48.439 --> 1:48:52.360 Yeah, wow, we've probably got I don't know who wrote it, 1:48:52.400 --> 1:48:54.800 but he didn't. He was telling the truth. 1:48:55.000 --> 1:49:01.240 Yeah where was it mate? Oh yeah, yeah. 1:49:01.000 --> 1:49:04.800 That might have been that amused people asking me for 1:49:04.920 --> 1:49:07.479 smokes and asking me for the light and ask me 1:49:07.600 --> 1:49:10.080 for money. But when it's bogain to meet the page 1:49:10.080 --> 1:49:12.160 to pay board? Would this is good? 1:49:13.520 --> 1:49:18.360 It's good? Yeah? Nine for one night. We were going 1:49:18.360 --> 1:49:20.800 to go down there one day. We were in like 1:49:20.840 --> 1:49:21.960 this winter. It was too hot. 1:49:22.120 --> 1:49:24.280 In winter when it's a bit cooler, it's too hot. Yeah, 1:49:24.280 --> 1:49:26.040 well we can go go in winter. What were you 1:49:26.080 --> 1:49:28.519 doing down in Fremantle, that's outside of your little little 1:49:28.560 --> 1:49:31.840 triangle of influence. I was sitting down to my mother. Oh, yes, 1:49:31.960 --> 1:49:33.160 she's down in North Cougie. 1:49:33.280 --> 1:49:35.800 Yeah you do, Ben, Gillian said, you and I need 1:49:35.840 --> 1:49:37.439 to get out of the well. Just let the point out. 1:49:37.439 --> 1:49:38.720 We do visit our mothers, don't we. 1:49:38.720 --> 1:49:41.080 We do visit mothers. Y Yeah, yeah, I don't spend 1:49:41.120 --> 1:49:44.599 all day in here. You certainly don't know. I don't 1:49:44.840 --> 1:49:47.840 you've got any job applications in at the moment. No, 1:49:48.080 --> 1:49:49.720 not at the moment. I need to get back onto 1:49:49.720 --> 1:49:54.519 that with a couple up something that looks appere I 1:49:54.560 --> 1:49:59.960 need to get back on to earning a living. How 1:50:00.120 --> 1:50:03.600 out bits of paper? 1:50:05.920 --> 1:50:06.639 Get a hew? 1:50:06.640 --> 1:50:08.120 You going, simon good Nicole. 1:50:09.280 --> 1:50:14.120 I actually visited a shopping center where we had a 1:50:14.120 --> 1:50:16.880 a homeless man with two dogs sitting outside the shopping 1:50:16.880 --> 1:50:20.719 center asking for you know, food or donations, and being 1:50:20.760 --> 1:50:23.880 a huge animal lover, I decided to go in and 1:50:23.880 --> 1:50:25.759 buy some dog food for the dogs. 1:50:26.640 --> 1:50:27.640 And when he. 1:50:27.680 --> 1:50:30.400 Bought the dog food, bought premium dog food actually in 1:50:30.439 --> 1:50:33.160 a bag of smackos and and took it out to 1:50:33.200 --> 1:50:35.400 him and said hello, and said I've bought these for 1:50:35.960 --> 1:50:38.960 your dogs. And he just looked at it and said, oh, 1:50:39.000 --> 1:50:43.000 that's very kind of you. But they can't actually eat that, 1:50:43.200 --> 1:50:46.519 because you know, they're just pretty bussy. But I don't 1:50:46.600 --> 1:50:48.599 like that, and spacos are bad for them. Do you 1:50:49.000 --> 1:50:52.360 do you think I could have their receipt. I'll take 1:50:52.400 --> 1:50:55.439 it back in for a ring fund and I'll get 1:50:55.479 --> 1:50:58.280 them what they can eat. And of course, you know, 1:50:58.360 --> 1:51:00.320 straight away I realized it that was a bit of 1:51:00.320 --> 1:51:05.880 a skin going on. Well, I'd already bought the stuff, 1:51:05.880 --> 1:51:07.840 so I ended up taking it back in and I said, well, 1:51:07.840 --> 1:51:10.160 what will you dogs eat because I will go back 1:51:10.160 --> 1:51:10.920 in and swap it. 1:51:10.880 --> 1:51:11.639 Over for you. 1:51:12.160 --> 1:51:14.639 He stumbled a little bit and wasn't really quite sure 1:51:15.120 --> 1:51:17.080 what to say. And I went back in and did 1:51:17.160 --> 1:51:19.519 change the dog food over and randomly bought a few 1:51:19.520 --> 1:51:23.240 other things and decided to open up the packets of 1:51:23.320 --> 1:51:25.880 dog food and treats so that he couldn't take them 1:51:25.880 --> 1:51:28.599 back and refund them and kept the receipt and walked off. 1:51:28.600 --> 1:51:30.519 But he wasn't happy. 1:51:30.680 --> 1:51:37.080 So remind me, I never asked you for money. That's thanks, 1:51:38.360 --> 1:51:40.000 I'd be Look, and I don't want to make light 1:51:40.040 --> 1:51:41.439 of this because there's a lot of people that are 1:51:41.479 --> 1:51:43.840 doing it tough. But there's an amazing I know what 1:51:43.880 --> 1:51:45.960 the correlation is, but the number of people that actually 1:51:45.960 --> 1:51:49.839 have a sit with a dog because people like Nicole, 1:51:50.200 --> 1:51:53.480 you kind of gives you that extra element of emotional 1:51:53.479 --> 1:51:55.400 connection when there's the guy with the dog, he's looking 1:51:55.400 --> 1:51:59.000 after his dog so and it's quite amazing, especially if 1:51:59.000 --> 1:52:01.760 a seas. I've seen so many sit there with a dog, 1:52:02.000 --> 1:52:04.960 and I've actually seen people with a toy stuff dog 1:52:05.400 --> 1:52:07.519 that have sat on their little blanket with them. Are 1:52:07.520 --> 1:52:11.040 you sure yep. Absolutely, I've seen that firsthand, like sitting 1:52:11.080 --> 1:52:12.680 with the stuff dog, because they know that that if 1:52:12.720 --> 1:52:15.160 you've got a dog, that people are more inclined to 1:52:15.160 --> 1:52:16.240 gup and give them stuff. 1:52:17.680 --> 1:52:20.599 As a market Yeah, I bought it as a stuff dog. 1:52:21.640 --> 1:52:28.280 Thank you to Cole the Jeff oh Hi, Simon, Mateo, Mick. 1:52:28.320 --> 1:52:30.880 I met someone the other He's actually a business colleague 1:52:31.400 --> 1:52:36.360 that knows you. His name's Jose. He is at the 1:52:36.640 --> 1:52:39.799 Scarborough Lifesaving Club. He's in his seventies. He does skiing 1:52:40.120 --> 1:52:41.320 on ski paddles. 1:52:42.479 --> 1:52:46.240 Those of state. It's won a lot of state trophies 1:52:46.240 --> 1:52:46.439 than that. 1:52:47.360 --> 1:52:47.719 Yeah. 1:52:48.800 --> 1:52:51.760 Yeah, I don't want to do business. I said, I 1:52:51.800 --> 1:52:57.880 don't want to do business with you anymore. My story, 1:52:57.960 --> 1:53:00.240 my story, I won't mentioned where it is. Well, it 1:53:00.320 --> 1:53:02.320 was at a traffic light and I sort of had 1:53:02.320 --> 1:53:04.320 twenty dollars and I waved it to the guy and 1:53:04.600 --> 1:53:07.519 he came across it about five cars down. He ran across, 1:53:07.560 --> 1:53:09.720 ran across, and I says, oh yeah. He goes, oh yeah, 1:53:09.720 --> 1:53:11.519 thank you, I said. I said, I'm actually looking for 1:53:11.560 --> 1:53:13.679 some labor. I'm looking for some laborers. 1:53:13.800 --> 1:53:14.840 You're interested in your job? 1:53:14.880 --> 1:53:15.160 Mate? 1:53:15.640 --> 1:53:16.200 He turned around. 1:53:16.200 --> 1:53:18.360 He says, nah, can't do that, mate, I said, why not? 1:53:18.680 --> 1:53:21.080 He says, nah, nah, I can't do that. 1:53:21.360 --> 1:53:23.280 I said, it's a pretty well paid job. You know 1:53:23.360 --> 1:53:23.519 I did. 1:53:24.240 --> 1:53:24.559 I did. 1:53:24.640 --> 1:53:26.360 I won't tell him all about it. 1:53:26.520 --> 1:53:27.400 You know what I did? 1:53:27.720 --> 1:53:29.960 I said, I wound the window up and I waved 1:53:30.000 --> 1:53:31.920 the twenty bucks and and then I drove off. 1:53:33.439 --> 1:53:35.360 He didn't end up giving it to him. 1:53:35.600 --> 1:53:37.720 No, well should I because he didn't want a job. 1:53:39.120 --> 1:53:39.880 Is that a bit cruel? 1:53:41.200 --> 1:53:44.640 Don't know. I mean I haven't given money out for 1:53:44.640 --> 1:53:46.080 a while because I have I haven't heard all the 1:53:46.120 --> 1:53:47.920 stories on six PR about maybe they're part of a 1:53:48.439 --> 1:53:51.720 you know, drop off, drop down Cartelli kind of organization. 1:53:51.760 --> 1:53:55.120 I don't know, I might be wrong in doing that. Thanks, Jeff. 1:53:55.200 --> 1:53:59.200 I don't think you're cruel. Sometimes you don't always get 1:53:59.200 --> 1:54:01.880 our talk about topics right. But that's hardly a crime, 1:54:01.880 --> 1:54:03.439 that's it happens in that. 1:54:03.600 --> 1:54:09.080 Yeah, But it's an interesting because I mean, it's most 1:54:09.120 --> 1:54:11.160 basically think, yep, if the bloke's doing that because he 1:54:11.160 --> 1:54:12.479 hasn't got a job, if you give him a job, 1:54:12.520 --> 1:54:15.040 that solves that problem. But you don't know what he's 1:54:15.080 --> 1:54:15.920 got gone on as well. 1:54:16.040 --> 1:54:16.759 You know that's true. 1:54:17.760 --> 1:54:25.960 Get a Allison, Good morning guys. Tat you were talking 1:54:25.960 --> 1:54:27.879 about crocheting before. 1:54:29.800 --> 1:54:30.439 My nan. 1:54:31.840 --> 1:54:39.920 Rustless soul. She's passed, but she crocheted all these blankets 1:54:39.960 --> 1:54:43.800 for all of her grandchildren, and mine is starting to 1:54:44.000 --> 1:54:48.960 unravel and I don't I don't know how to crochet 1:54:49.080 --> 1:54:52.520 to fix it. So I was just wondering if there 1:54:52.560 --> 1:54:55.680 was anybody out there that might be able to. 1:54:56.360 --> 1:54:56.920 Help me out. 1:54:57.120 --> 1:54:59.760 Yeah, up for yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a really good question. 1:55:00.400 --> 1:55:02.640 My little baby, Simon's a little but draggoned, isn't. 1:55:02.440 --> 1:55:04.200 It's a bit of dragon. But has I started unraveling 1:55:04.280 --> 1:55:06.920 yet though? So no, because yeah, I think Jillian might 1:55:06.920 --> 1:55:07.960 be able to help with that. 1:55:08.200 --> 1:55:10.960 Yeah, to stop that unraveling, Allison, stay well, I'll put 1:55:10.960 --> 1:55:12.720 you back to Sean and to Anne and we'll see 1:55:12.720 --> 1:55:16.000 if someone can help. Can anyone to help Allison tidy 1:55:16.080 --> 1:55:21.000 up what is obviously important keepsakes in crocheting starting to unravel. 1:55:21.040 --> 1:55:22.720 Let me know if you can help, and we'll see 1:55:22.720 --> 1:55:25.040 if he can hook you guys up safely, of course. 1:55:25.040 --> 1:55:27.320 Thirteen and a half minutes to midday, meet Collas is 1:55:27.360 --> 1:55:29.400 with us back in a second. Yeah, thanks for listening, 1:55:29.560 --> 1:55:31.880 and I'm Simon Barman. I met Collis is with us today. 1:55:32.000 --> 1:55:34.560 Mick has given a fifty dollars note to a bloke 1:55:34.640 --> 1:55:38.400 on an intersection near the Fremantle railway bridge and has 1:55:38.400 --> 1:55:41.440 copped the biblical rant and not a lot of appreciation. 1:55:42.960 --> 1:55:44.200 No, yeah, and I didn't know it was going to 1:55:44.200 --> 1:55:45.760 be a fifty. I thought, if I find somebney in 1:55:45.760 --> 1:55:47.000 that glob box, I'll give it to him. So I 1:55:47.040 --> 1:55:51.000 committed to myself. I thought, I saw the fifty, I thought, 1:55:50.680 --> 1:55:52.360 I don't want to give you. 1:55:51.920 --> 1:55:54.520 What if you'd stop the car, turn the ignition off 1:55:54.960 --> 1:55:57.160 and throwing the tar paul and back and showing all 1:55:57.200 --> 1:55:58.320 that stuff that's in the tray. 1:55:58.160 --> 1:55:59.600 And giving him something of that? He said, he can 1:55:59.600 --> 1:56:03.520 have this call of rope, Yeah, these chains, Yeah, there's 1:56:03.600 --> 1:56:07.000 moldy straps, this sock. You're going to have a mosquito 1:56:07.080 --> 1:56:10.720 swarm exactly one. Level three two is still to come 1:56:10.720 --> 1:56:13.320 off up on the show. What will Mark and from 1:56:13.320 --> 1:56:15.760 the City of Sterling do with east scooters given the 1:56:15.760 --> 1:56:17.840 city a perth have picked theirs up today? What do 1:56:17.880 --> 1:56:18.640 you mean pick them up? 1:56:18.960 --> 1:56:21.440 They picked them up. There's a fatality last Saturday, yes, 1:56:21.480 --> 1:56:25.120 involving allegedly and any bread person knocking a bloke over 1:56:25.160 --> 1:56:27.680 on the on the footpath City of Perth picked them 1:56:27.720 --> 1:56:32.000 up today, so they're getting rid of them temporarily until 1:56:32.040 --> 1:56:34.080 there's an investigation as to what actually happens. 1:56:34.320 --> 1:56:36.200 So they're taking all the EA scooters off the street, the. 1:56:36.120 --> 1:56:37.160 Purple and the orange ones. 1:56:37.320 --> 1:56:37.640 Yeah. 1:56:38.000 --> 1:56:40.480 Yeah, so that happened this morning, has been happening this morning. 1:56:40.560 --> 1:56:44.480 So they Perth are saying it's out of respect for 1:56:45.480 --> 1:56:48.640 the person passing, respect for the family. But I would 1:56:48.640 --> 1:56:53.160 imagine too there's some legal implications around people getting on 1:56:53.200 --> 1:56:57.160 them when they've had some drinks. Tragic and they can't 1:56:58.760 --> 1:57:01.120 these ones they're using, like can't keep the speed down. 1:57:01.160 --> 1:57:03.360 The ten ks now they're all governed to twenty five. 1:57:03.920 --> 1:57:05.960 So if you're on a foot crowded footpath and the CBD, 1:57:06.040 --> 1:57:08.320 that's okay. On roop side Drive, yeah, but it's okay 1:57:08.960 --> 1:57:10.920 Harrison Island, but it's not okay in the middle of 1:57:10.960 --> 1:57:14.240 the GEO probably target it, So I think they do 1:57:14.320 --> 1:57:16.880 in some places. Yeah, I think. I think we had 1:57:16.880 --> 1:57:20.120 some correspondent from someone in Rockingham that says that if 1:57:20.120 --> 1:57:21.840 you're on the footpaths ten and then we can do 1:57:21.880 --> 1:57:22.360 twenty five. 1:57:22.480 --> 1:57:25.640 We were on we went for the Rugby World Cup, 1:57:25.640 --> 1:57:27.640 and that's sometimes you just you're really slow and you think, 1:57:27.640 --> 1:57:29.360 go why can't I go? And then you get pats 1:57:29.520 --> 1:57:31.600 a certain zone. Then it goes again. So with this, 1:57:31.720 --> 1:57:34.880 where was that? That was in summary in France? I 1:57:34.880 --> 1:57:35.760 can't remember him? Where? 1:57:35.960 --> 1:57:36.160 Yeah? 1:57:36.240 --> 1:57:37.880 Summary in France over the front. 1:57:38.120 --> 1:57:40.600 Yeah one Duble three eight e two is the phone number, 1:57:40.680 --> 1:57:44.520 flight to phone Mick, Mick on my myself, you can. 1:57:44.600 --> 1:57:49.520 We've had a favorite correspondence on crocheting, Mick. That's a 1:57:49.600 --> 1:57:54.400 crocheted poppies are used on Anzac Day and Remembrance Day. Okay, yeah, 1:57:54.440 --> 1:57:57.320 so I haven't seen those before, so not you know, 1:57:57.800 --> 1:57:59.520 Mick and I don't know everything and always happy to 1:57:59.520 --> 1:58:00.200 be correct. 1:58:00.080 --> 1:58:01.680 Because you need to get out of it more, Simon, 1:58:02.360 --> 1:58:03.160 get out in the world. 1:58:03.480 --> 1:58:06.120 I'll just talk on the radio of me and visit 1:58:06.160 --> 1:58:09.280 my mum in the nursing home. Matt says, does Sharon 1:58:09.320 --> 1:58:10.600 know you gave her fifty away? 1:58:11.520 --> 1:58:14.240 I told her yesterday the same story and she said, yeah, 1:58:14.320 --> 1:58:17.600 that was her fifty dollars, but she'd seen that in there, 1:58:17.600 --> 1:58:19.760 but she'd forgot that was there as well. So that 1:58:19.960 --> 1:58:21.560 the fact that we didn't know we had it there 1:58:22.040 --> 1:58:24.240 that I was okay to lose it because I didn't 1:58:24.280 --> 1:58:25.520 know I was there anyway. It would have been a 1:58:25.560 --> 1:58:27.360 nice bonus if I went up to McDonald's or something 1:58:27.400 --> 1:58:29.840 and thought, oh, geez, oh, here we go. But yeah, 1:58:29.920 --> 1:58:32.520 so I did tell her that, and she was okay 1:58:32.560 --> 1:58:32.920 with it. 1:58:33.320 --> 1:58:36.800 Okay, my little one. She's nine, and she sat in 1:58:36.840 --> 1:58:39.040 my passenger seat of my car a lot over the 1:58:39.120 --> 1:58:41.760 last eight or nine years, and she it's been the 1:58:41.800 --> 1:58:45.400 same car. And she puts her treasures in the global box. 1:58:46.720 --> 1:58:50.480 She's got a little jewels, dead starfish right, there's a 1:58:50.480 --> 1:58:52.080 bone in there, which I think is from a chicken. 1:58:52.120 --> 1:58:54.680 All the stuff she finds on the beach, there's rocks, 1:58:54.680 --> 1:58:59.760 the shells, there's a crab pincher, nice pincer. 1:58:59.480 --> 1:59:00.600 Some heirloom we call that. 1:59:00.680 --> 1:59:00.760 Ye. 1:59:01.800 --> 1:59:04.839 I just saw on the news just then that Craig Bellamy, 1:59:05.160 --> 1:59:07.440 who's the Melbourne Storm coach, has just signed on for 1:59:07.480 --> 1:59:10.920 his twenty fourth straight season as a coach of a 1:59:11.360 --> 1:59:14.800 first Premier team. That's amazing. Is there is there a 1:59:15.320 --> 1:59:17.320 longer serving How long did she was around for a while? 1:59:17.640 --> 1:59:20.080 I think she was twenty five or twenty seven years. 1:59:20.160 --> 1:59:23.200 It's amazing and be successful, which is incredible. 1:59:23.240 --> 1:59:27.680 Ye, that's soccer's on tonight Australia versus Japan in Perth. 1:59:27.720 --> 1:59:28.360 Will you watch that? 1:59:28.920 --> 1:59:29.880 Is it the soccer rous? 1:59:29.960 --> 1:59:32.800 Yes, it's a qualifier? Is it for you today? Twenty 1:59:32.880 --> 1:59:33.280 next year? 1:59:33.360 --> 1:59:36.200 Off the World Cup? Is it real? Yeah? Where are 1:59:36.240 --> 1:59:38.040 we aut with that? We've got to win or is 1:59:38.080 --> 1:59:38.600 it just party? 1:59:38.720 --> 1:59:39.400 We do have to win? 1:59:39.520 --> 1:59:41.520 Yes, like if we we're in. If we lose, we're 1:59:41.520 --> 1:59:43.320 out or no there's still some more to come on. Yeah, okay, 1:59:43.560 --> 1:59:45.920 but we are winning. Be nice and then the Origins 1:59:46.080 --> 1:59:49.040 coming up as well in Perth. In I think it 1:59:49.080 --> 1:59:51.040 might be next week actually next Wednesday night? 1:59:51.120 --> 1:59:51.520 How good? 1:59:52.280 --> 1:59:53.960 Yeah, very good? I think it is it? 1:59:53.960 --> 1:59:56.400 Next week you're going to the bare knuckle boxing fighting champ. 1:59:56.600 --> 1:59:58.840 I don't like that. And because I don't like I 1:59:58.880 --> 2:00:02.240 don't like violence. I don't like seeing it. I don't 2:00:02.360 --> 2:00:05.720 like having it inflicted on me. So no, I don't 2:00:05.760 --> 2:00:07.720 like it. But there's obviously a market for it. But yeah, 2:00:07.880 --> 2:00:09.480 I find that a very odd thing. I don't know. 2:00:09.840 --> 2:00:12.120 I'm with the people that are saying we probably shouldn't 2:00:12.120 --> 2:00:14.440 be doing it. And if it goes underground, let it 2:00:14.480 --> 2:00:16.440 go underground. I don't think it should be made like 2:00:16.480 --> 2:00:18.360 a mainstream thing. It's like that, you know, that run 2:00:18.360 --> 2:00:20.400 it straight thing now that where that kid died the 2:00:20.480 --> 2:00:23.320 other week where people just run into each other at 2:00:23.800 --> 2:00:26.520 a manly regular league game in Sydney to the day 2:00:26.600 --> 2:00:29.200 people out the back on the biers running down a hill, 2:00:29.480 --> 2:00:31.480 just running into each other and knocking people out, and 2:00:31.800 --> 2:00:34.920 you're thinking, you know, it's just that sort of stuff. 2:00:35.360 --> 2:00:37.640 I can't get my head around how people find that. 2:00:37.720 --> 2:00:40.040 Probably with you there, Mick, Kevin Sheety co sessing them 2:00:40.080 --> 2:00:43.480 for twenty seven years. Wow, four premierships? Ye are really 2:00:43.480 --> 2:00:45.080 goodn't he really impressive? Sheet? 2:00:45.160 --> 2:00:47.640 Well, probably Bellamy's probably. I don't have any discids. I 2:00:47.640 --> 2:00:50.240 know they lost three or two because the salary cap issue, 2:00:50.280 --> 2:00:53.480 but they've been consistent. I think I don't know how 2:00:53.480 --> 2:00:55.640 we'd I think it'd be even more successful than Cheety 2:00:56.000 --> 2:00:56.600 Craig Bellony. 2:00:56.760 --> 2:00:58.960 Just it's more successful than Wayne Bennett. 2:01:00.120 --> 2:01:02.080 Because Wayne, why was it the Broncos for a while, 2:01:02.080 --> 2:01:03.840 But it wasn't there for I don't think it's there 2:01:03.840 --> 2:01:05.080 for twenty four years't know how long he is it 2:01:05.120 --> 2:01:07.520 the Broncos for. But I just find that longevity in 2:01:07.560 --> 2:01:09.840 a sport like that at that top level. That's just 2:01:10.040 --> 2:01:11.040 is incredible. 2:01:11.480 --> 2:01:15.600 Yeah, a Graham, Good Berners guys. 2:01:16.400 --> 2:01:19.040 A quick story on the Blakes were collecting, rattling their 2:01:19.080 --> 2:01:22.760 tins and stuff. I lived down bull Creek Way and 2:01:22.880 --> 2:01:25.280 he was quite he was quite often outside of the 2:01:25.280 --> 2:01:27.840 shobbage and a shaking his tin. And I walked past 2:01:27.920 --> 2:01:29.800 him one day and I thought, well, I won't give 2:01:29.880 --> 2:01:31.560 him money. But I went back to the car and 2:01:31.600 --> 2:01:33.120 I got on an apple out of the boot and 2:01:33.160 --> 2:01:35.640 I went around and I said, yeah, I haven't got 2:01:35.640 --> 2:01:37.640 any money, but what a bit you have the apple? 2:01:37.720 --> 2:01:39.520 And you said, what the ef am I going to 2:01:39.560 --> 2:01:39.960 do with that? 2:01:40.920 --> 2:01:42.680 Yeah, we're getting a few a bit of thanks Graham, 2:01:42.720 --> 2:01:45.480 getting a bit of correspondence on that people offering alternate 2:01:46.520 --> 2:01:47.480 turn it into money. 2:01:47.720 --> 2:01:49.560 Yeah, it doesn't go down that well. 2:01:49.560 --> 2:01:54.200 It would appear, no, no, because yeah, I've always thought 2:01:54.240 --> 2:01:56.320 about you just buying buy a matter sandwich or something 2:01:56.400 --> 2:01:59.480 or other. I haven't done that either, but I'd probably 2:01:59.560 --> 2:02:01.760 rather that because I think people think if I'm giving 2:02:01.800 --> 2:02:04.800 him money, they're either going to go by beers or 2:02:04.880 --> 2:02:06.480 drugs or do something with it. But if you've given 2:02:06.520 --> 2:02:09.440 him something to eat, well that's for them kind of thing. 2:02:09.640 --> 2:02:12.040 So I'm with people, happy to give them food. 2:02:12.040 --> 2:02:13.960 But yeah, obviously, yeah, and it'll mix's gonna leave us 2:02:13.960 --> 2:02:15.440 in just a second, three and a half minutes to twelve. 2:02:15.440 --> 2:02:17.840 If you've got any nice stories about giving money or 2:02:18.040 --> 2:02:22.520 alternatives to people who are begging, let us know. After 2:02:22.560 --> 2:02:25.160 Mick leaves. It's a couple of three minutes to midday 2:02:25.160 --> 2:02:29.440 back in a second. Craig Bellamy has won three Premierships 2:02:29.440 --> 2:02:31.480 as head coach of the Melbourne Storm and he's just 2:02:31.480 --> 2:02:33.960 signed up for his twenty eighth year, twenty fourth year, 2:02:34.000 --> 2:02:37.320 twenty four Wayne Bennett seven n RL apprenticeships with the Bronx. 2:02:37.800 --> 2:02:39.280 Yeah, in twenty five years at the Broncos. 2:02:39.440 --> 2:02:41.360 Yeah, amazing, unbelievable. Yeah. 2:02:41.440 --> 2:02:43.400 I don't think we'll see that anymore once these guys 2:02:43.400 --> 2:02:44.880 are gone. I just don't think we'll see that. 2:02:45.160 --> 2:02:47.800 Yeah again, different sport, that sport coming to Perth. It's 2:02:47.800 --> 2:02:51.680 been Meninga being heavily backed in to be there. 2:02:51.760 --> 2:02:54.200 Yes, it hasn't been officially anounce yet, has it president 2:02:54.240 --> 2:02:55.400 that he's demand. 2:02:55.080 --> 2:02:57.960 But if you, we know you haven't struggling to find 2:02:57.960 --> 2:03:01.160 a job, and if you did have to begabo, what 2:03:01.360 --> 2:03:04.920 intersection would we find you at West Coast Highway. Probably 2:03:05.200 --> 2:03:06.360 the scar of Beach Road is pretty good. 2:03:06.400 --> 2:03:08.320 Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah he's probably there. 2:03:08.240 --> 2:03:09.160 Is he all right? 2:03:09.240 --> 2:03:09.400 Come? 2:03:09.520 --> 2:03:14.240 So Gooday, see you mate. The beautiful mind of Mick Collis. 2:03:14.240 --> 2:03:14.560 How good. 2:03:14.560 --> 2:03:16.400 We'd ucky to have him. He'll be back with us 2:03:16.600 --> 2:03:20.440 next week. I'm Simon Beaumont. Midday. Stay listening to per today. 2:03:24.680 --> 2:03:26.960 How good? Here until one o'clock today, Olie Peterson, we'll 2:03:27.040 --> 2:03:28.640 join us a little later on. I'll bring you up 2:03:28.640 --> 2:03:31.880 to date with our poll question today, which we asked 2:03:31.920 --> 2:03:35.040 at nine o'clock, a concern with judicial centences at the moment, 2:03:35.080 --> 2:03:38.200 given what we heard yesterday three years and two months 2:03:38.240 --> 2:03:42.080 for the minor am I nor involved in the crash 2:03:42.120 --> 2:03:45.400 that killed Nick Campo. I'll bring up today with our 2:03:45.600 --> 2:03:48.000 poll in a justice second and we're going to catch 2:03:48.040 --> 2:03:49.720 up with Marko. And in just a moment this city 2:03:49.720 --> 2:03:53.000 was sterling mayor what will he do with eastcooters given 2:03:53.360 --> 2:03:55.760 that the City of Perth have started picking theirs up today. 2:03:56.680 --> 2:03:59.640 So the orange ones, which are Neuron Mobility, are being 2:03:59.640 --> 2:04:01.800 picked up by Neuron and the purple ones are being 2:04:01.800 --> 2:04:04.360 picked up by Beam. That is suspension of the contract. 2:04:04.960 --> 2:04:07.120 Spoke to Bruce Reynolds today, the Deputy mayor of the 2:04:07.120 --> 2:04:09.000 City of Perth, and he says it's out of respect 2:04:09.040 --> 2:04:12.240 for the family of the deceased, but they will cease 2:04:12.680 --> 2:04:14.960 operations for a while. We'll find out what city' stilling 2:04:14.960 --> 2:04:16.240 are going to do. Because there are a number of 2:04:16.280 --> 2:04:24.320 councils that have high scooters Bumbray, Bustleton, Rockingham, Frio Geraldon 2:04:24.560 --> 2:04:27.800 to name but a few, Albany and Calgily you have 2:04:27.880 --> 2:04:31.200 receised their operations. We'll talk to Marking just a moment 2:04:31.640 --> 2:04:34.440 after twelve fifteen today Darren Sargent will join us our 2:04:34.440 --> 2:04:36.920 resident podiatus here on Perth today. So have you got 2:04:36.920 --> 2:04:38.400 any foot problems or I want to have a chat 2:04:38.440 --> 2:04:42.320 to Sarge. Please do one double three A two is 2:04:42.360 --> 2:04:45.240 the phone number and Nichols Niche will join us after 2:04:45.240 --> 2:04:48.360 twelve thirty is the sentencing from our judiciary to lenient 2:04:48.480 --> 2:04:50.840 in your opinion. The yeses are fifty six and the 2:04:50.920 --> 2:04:52.640 nose a nine. Will keep you up to dated with 2:04:52.720 --> 2:04:54.960 that as we go. And Dan sent me a really 2:04:54.960 --> 2:04:59.120 good message about the qualification of the Soccreos in the 2:04:59.240 --> 2:05:01.280 campaign to get into the World Cup next year. Thanks Dan, 2:05:01.320 --> 2:05:03.360 I'll read that out in just a moment. Stay listening 2:05:03.400 --> 2:05:04.960 if you want to know where Australia is in terms 2:05:04.960 --> 2:05:10.480 of qualification. The big game against Japan is tonight. Is 2:05:10.520 --> 2:05:13.200 tonight off the stadium. Now you would have heard Holly 2:05:13.360 --> 2:05:17.960 Edwards Smith's news report about a boost of funding to 2:05:18.680 --> 2:05:21.880 football to soccer, and Holly Edward Smith joins us now 2:05:21.880 --> 2:05:24.960 from six PR newsim Goday. Holly, good afternoon, and so 2:05:25.160 --> 2:05:28.040 just to reiterate, that's a big announcement for the Sam 2:05:28.120 --> 2:05:29.000 Curve Football Center. 2:05:29.240 --> 2:05:32.640 Yes, yeah, so the main I guess news of this 2:05:32.680 --> 2:05:35.720 press conference was four million dollars to create two new 2:05:35.840 --> 2:05:40.120 community sized pitches at the Sam Curve facility in the 2:05:40.160 --> 2:05:45.160 state's southeast that is expected to complete by early next year. 2:05:45.600 --> 2:05:49.080 And it's a mid obviously, it's a fifty plus million 2:05:49.120 --> 2:05:52.520 dollar center that they says is kind of the star 2:05:53.000 --> 2:05:56.680 of football here in Perth and in wa and they 2:05:56.720 --> 2:05:58.760 want to continue that growth, so that we're putting this 2:05:58.840 --> 2:06:02.600 extra money to create two community size pictures. But particularly 2:06:02.600 --> 2:06:06.360 with the growth in the sport and particularly in women's participation, 2:06:06.440 --> 2:06:09.200 which the Premier said has gone up thirty four percent. 2:06:09.280 --> 2:06:10.040 Yeah, massive ism. 2:06:10.200 --> 2:06:13.080 So a quick turnaround on that light suburb for us. 2:06:12.960 --> 2:06:14.920 Holly, did they mention where it is physically? Where it is? 2:06:14.960 --> 2:06:17.840 It is in Queen's Park the sam cur Center at 2:06:17.880 --> 2:06:20.920 the moment, it's about seventeen minutes from the studios here, 2:06:20.960 --> 2:06:23.040 not far at all, and you get a good look 2:06:23.080 --> 2:06:23.720 at John Hughes. 2:06:23.920 --> 2:06:26.880 Absolutely. 2:06:27.240 --> 2:06:29.480 The premier also announcing three hundred and thirty two million 2:06:29.520 --> 2:06:32.560 dollars as part of the state budget for sports infrastructure 2:06:32.680 --> 2:06:35.520 right across the state. Deputy Premier and Minister for Sports 2:06:35.520 --> 2:06:37.720 and Recreation said that there's hundreds of grants that will 2:06:37.760 --> 2:06:41.320 be available across all different types of sports and community centers, 2:06:41.560 --> 2:06:43.680 but particularly a focus on grassroots sports. 2:06:43.800 --> 2:06:47.480 Yeah, is that called the CRF fun? Does that ring 2:06:47.520 --> 2:06:50.720 a bell? Community Sports and Recreation Facilly's Fun? Did that 2:06:50.800 --> 2:06:51.800 ring a bell, Holly or is it? 2:06:52.040 --> 2:06:54.400 I think this is just more broadly on sports infrastructure. 2:06:55.040 --> 2:06:57.680 The government website does have a more detailed least of 2:06:57.760 --> 2:06:59.960 kind of the breakdowns. A billion here, twenty million? 2:07:00.040 --> 2:07:02.920 Yeah, no, sorry, a question without notice there and Rita 2:07:02.960 --> 2:07:04.960 Sefilody had a bit to say on some other matters 2:07:04.960 --> 2:07:05.960 as well, as did the premiere. 2:07:06.120 --> 2:07:08.920 Yes, certainly so. Ben knuckle boxing has been obviously a 2:07:08.920 --> 2:07:11.920 big point of debate across the community at the moment, 2:07:12.120 --> 2:07:15.640 the Deputy Premier standing by her decision to not overrule 2:07:16.280 --> 2:07:19.320 any decision by the Combat Sports Commission. It's understood their 2:07:19.360 --> 2:07:21.760 meeting today, but not entirely sure on what they'll be 2:07:21.880 --> 2:07:24.560 discussing and whether or not there'll be a change of announcement. 2:07:24.920 --> 2:07:27.800 But the Deputy Premier effectively said with the data and 2:07:27.840 --> 2:07:32.760 information she's been given, she can't differentiate between ben knuckle 2:07:32.800 --> 2:07:35.640 boxing and sports like UFC and MMA, which we've had 2:07:35.640 --> 2:07:38.280 in the state before, and said that while there might 2:07:38.280 --> 2:07:40.280 be a vocal group in the community, they are at 2:07:40.320 --> 2:07:43.320 against it, she is receiving community feedback that it's something 2:07:43.360 --> 2:07:45.680 that they support and looking forward to watching. 2:07:46.000 --> 2:07:47.360 Okay, what else did they say? 2:07:47.480 --> 2:07:50.200 Are the issues? The Pet's wa website, which we found 2:07:50.240 --> 2:07:53.760 out last week has been scrapped. The Premier couldn't answer 2:07:53.760 --> 2:07:56.680 whether or not that company had any more government contracts, 2:07:56.680 --> 2:07:59.320 but did take the question on notice. Also took on 2:07:59.440 --> 2:08:01.400 notice how much it had already been spent on that 2:08:01.400 --> 2:08:04.640 Pet's Away website, which was supposed to roll out with 2:08:04.720 --> 2:08:07.720 these new puppy farming laws, that was given nine point 2:08:07.760 --> 2:08:10.160 eight million dollars. He says that's not all been spent, 2:08:10.280 --> 2:08:12.760 but there were milestones that the company met and therefore 2:08:12.800 --> 2:08:14.480 that they have been paid for them. 2:08:14.600 --> 2:08:16.960 And just for our listeners. And this is only a rumor, right, 2:08:17.000 --> 2:08:20.480 This is just a rumor and it may or may 2:08:20.480 --> 2:08:23.680 not have substance. But the reason people keep asking Rita 2:08:23.800 --> 2:08:27.600 and Hannah Beasley, does this Seisma have any other contracts? 2:08:28.040 --> 2:08:30.720 There seems to be this notion that they're also running 2:08:30.720 --> 2:08:35.360 the portal for the firearm buyback and the firearm compensations. 2:08:35.680 --> 2:08:37.920 So that's why that question keeps coming up. We don't know. 2:08:37.960 --> 2:08:40.280 We've had a good look ourselves, and we can't see 2:08:40.280 --> 2:08:43.360 any record of Seisma on any government website having that 2:08:43.400 --> 2:08:47.120 particular tie in. So that's why our politicians keep getting usked. 2:08:47.160 --> 2:08:50.000 About their well tru me're taking that on notice. But 2:08:50.440 --> 2:08:53.880 you would hope with particular legislation that is that overreaching 2:08:53.920 --> 2:08:58.720 and that changing. Hopefully, if it's come to a facility 2:08:58.760 --> 2:09:01.120 or company like this, which the premier says the company 2:09:01.200 --> 2:09:04.200 was struggling to deliver the system, hopefully that's not the case. 2:09:04.280 --> 2:09:06.720 Because we already have heard quite a bit of contention 2:09:06.800 --> 2:09:08.760 about firearms own and struggling. 2:09:08.440 --> 2:09:10.520 The best new rules about how and how onerous, the 2:09:10.560 --> 2:09:13.760 application system is and the hand system was. She asked 2:09:13.800 --> 2:09:15.480 about e scooters Holly. 2:09:15.320 --> 2:09:18.160 Yes, certainly. E scooters was the final kind of topic 2:09:18.200 --> 2:09:21.520 of the day, the Premier and Deputy Premier supporting the 2:09:21.520 --> 2:09:24.560 decision of the City of Perth to ban hiring e 2:09:24.640 --> 2:09:28.880 scooters in that locality. The Deputy Premier acknowledging that there 2:09:28.880 --> 2:09:31.280 needs to be more campaigns about education and that a 2:09:31.320 --> 2:09:34.160 recent review into es scooters did show that there needs 2:09:34.160 --> 2:09:36.160 to be more education. We've seen in the debate some 2:09:36.200 --> 2:09:39.000 people not knowing that you're under the same rules as 2:09:39.040 --> 2:09:41.120 if you were in a car on the roads. Some 2:09:41.160 --> 2:09:43.160 people not knowing you aren't allowed to have alcohol in 2:09:43.200 --> 2:09:45.640 your system, will riding them. Obviously they're for people age 2:09:45.680 --> 2:09:48.160 sixteen and plus, but you know whether or not those 2:09:48.240 --> 2:09:51.280 are actually enforced. The Deputy Premier is saying, though, that 2:09:51.360 --> 2:09:55.160 police can breathalyze people and will, particularly with this latest 2:09:55.200 --> 2:09:59.320 case where the alleged driver who hit a pedestrian on 2:09:59.360 --> 2:10:02.680 Saturday night it was allegedly three times over the legal limit. 2:10:02.960 --> 2:10:06.040 Police will start pulling people over on scooters and breathalyzing 2:10:06.040 --> 2:10:08.160 them because they're under the same rules as if you 2:10:08.160 --> 2:10:09.280 were behind the wheel of a car. 2:10:09.400 --> 2:10:11.840 Yeah, very interesting. So you got some audio for us 2:10:11.840 --> 2:10:14.960 here Holly Rita talking about EA scooters at the press 2:10:14.960 --> 2:10:15.720 conference earlier. 2:10:16.240 --> 2:10:20.000 A significant level of compliance activity will be undertaken by 2:10:20.000 --> 2:10:23.440 the police over the upcoming week, and that is, for example, 2:10:23.560 --> 2:10:26.760 making sure the weight and the power of these East 2:10:26.760 --> 2:10:29.720 scooters haven't been modified beyond their regulations. There will be 2:10:29.880 --> 2:10:33.880 undertaking significant compliance activity in relation to the regulations. There 2:10:33.920 --> 2:10:37.000 was a review undertaken by the Road Safety Commission and 2:10:37.120 --> 2:10:41.320 also Department of Transport that didn't recommend any sort of 2:10:41.440 --> 2:10:45.720 further regulations that would prohibit these the East scooters being used, 2:10:45.960 --> 2:10:48.120 but of course, in light of the recent accidents, will 2:10:48.120 --> 2:10:50.920 continue to work across the road safety portfolio and my 2:10:51.040 --> 2:10:53.880 portfolio of how we can try and ensure we improve 2:10:53.920 --> 2:10:56.680 the safety. The reality is the regulations are in place. 2:10:56.880 --> 2:10:59.760 Fact is a lot of people aren't sticking by the law. 2:11:00.080 --> 2:11:03.720 They're not abiding by the regulations. So my view, compliance 2:11:03.720 --> 2:11:07.080 will be very very important to try and make sure 2:11:07.240 --> 2:11:10.960 the community have confidence with what's happening. Just like road rules, 2:11:11.000 --> 2:11:13.320 you know, it's the same as road rules. The real 2:11:13.360 --> 2:11:16.280 issue is, and we've all seen it, that people aren't 2:11:16.320 --> 2:11:19.800 sticking by the rules and they're creating dangerous situations for 2:11:19.880 --> 2:11:25.120 themselves and for pedestrians, and we're just seeing that there 2:11:25.360 --> 2:11:27.960 were certain set of rules provided to make sure we 2:11:28.000 --> 2:11:31.520 could roll this out safety, but there's been a heavy abuse. 2:11:31.320 --> 2:11:32.080 Of those rules. 2:11:32.840 --> 2:11:35.440 Thank you for the audio, Holly. It looks like you 2:11:35.440 --> 2:11:37.920 know we've been asking the question on the show, what 2:11:37.960 --> 2:11:42.320 does this mean for Rockingham, Bunbrie, Bustleton, Mandra where wherever 2:11:42.440 --> 2:11:44.960 counselors are hiring at lease scooters? So we'll try and 2:11:45.280 --> 2:11:47.360 keep stay on that. Thank you for bringing our listeners 2:11:47.400 --> 2:11:47.800 up to date. 2:11:48.360 --> 2:11:48.840 Thanks Bolly. 2:11:48.880 --> 2:11:51.880 Thanks Holly edwood Smith. You'll hear her reports during the 2:11:51.880 --> 2:11:54.800 course of the day. Now, Mik Carlos has just left 2:11:54.800 --> 2:11:58.520 the building and he has texted me to say we 2:11:58.560 --> 2:12:00.480 have a scooter rank out the front of our place 2:12:00.520 --> 2:12:02.760 here at six PR there are usually six scooters there, 2:12:02.800 --> 2:12:05.560 purple ones. They've gone. They have gone. They've been picked 2:12:05.600 --> 2:12:07.480 up by a bloke in a high vis vest. Thank you, Mick. 2:12:07.760 --> 2:12:12.080 Thanks for reporting in on the road reporter Mick Collis, 2:12:12.880 --> 2:12:15.040 who needs a job. Mark Irwain is the mayor of 2:12:15.040 --> 2:12:18.120 the city of Stirling. Joins us now Goaday, Mark Gooday, 2:12:18.160 --> 2:12:21.320 Simon cad I listeners, are you taking note of what 2:12:21.360 --> 2:12:23.520 the City of Perth are doing, any any move over 2:12:23.600 --> 2:12:26.760 your way to ban high scooters or at least to 2:12:26.800 --> 2:12:29.080 remove them from circulation for a while. 2:12:30.680 --> 2:12:32.840 Yeah, there's lots of things at play here, Simon, so 2:12:32.880 --> 2:12:35.480 we're certainly taking note of what's happening at the moment. 2:12:35.560 --> 2:12:37.680 There's obviously been a big media topic for the last 2:12:37.720 --> 2:12:39.920 few days and we acknowledge, you know, there's been a 2:12:39.960 --> 2:12:42.480 tragedy and our thoughts are with the family who've been 2:12:42.480 --> 2:12:46.000 affected by this. Well, several families and indeed community have 2:12:46.040 --> 2:12:48.800 been affected by this. We had no plans currently to 2:12:49.720 --> 2:12:52.160 put any further restrictions on each scooters, but we're certainly 2:12:52.200 --> 2:12:56.560 be watching how the police monitor their restrictions and how 2:12:56.680 --> 2:12:58.560 road safety I guess look at this into the future 2:12:58.600 --> 2:13:01.680 and keep dealing with it. Talked about this before, you know, 2:13:01.720 --> 2:13:03.640 from back in twenty twenty one. I think we were 2:13:03.640 --> 2:13:05.840 one of the first local governments to do trials of 2:13:05.880 --> 2:13:10.440 the e riteables, the hirible ones of these, and it 2:13:10.520 --> 2:13:13.040 was evident then the state government were fairly quick in 2:13:13.120 --> 2:13:17.120 putting on board restrictions and regulations, particularly with road use, 2:13:17.520 --> 2:13:19.840 and it's keeping up with technologies which have probably gone 2:13:19.840 --> 2:13:22.600 a lot quicker than any of us first expected. But 2:13:22.880 --> 2:13:27.280 at the present time we're comfortable that the hirable eat 2:13:27.240 --> 2:13:31.720 scooters had the best restrictions applicable and they're certainly not 2:13:31.920 --> 2:13:33.960 what are creating most of the issues. So we're seeing 2:13:34.240 --> 2:13:35.040 in the public. 2:13:34.760 --> 2:13:37.560 Realm, how many have you got in the city. 2:13:39.400 --> 2:13:42.600 Well, yeah, so two hundred and fifty scooters and they're 2:13:42.640 --> 2:13:45.200 the horrible ones of the bean ones. And to put 2:13:45.200 --> 2:13:49.280 that in perspective, so they're in the areas between Scarborough 2:13:49.320 --> 2:13:52.080 or Brighton Beach and up right up to North Beach 2:13:52.120 --> 2:13:55.640 Watermen's Bay there. Yep, they're gated, so they've got the 2:13:55.680 --> 2:13:58.720 geo fencing capabilities and they're the only ones. Obviously private 2:13:58.760 --> 2:14:00.680 ones don't have that and as we most people will 2:14:00.680 --> 2:14:04.200 remove any restrictions anyway, these ones are restricted to certain 2:14:04.240 --> 2:14:07.840 speeds and particularly through any areas such as through the 2:14:08.560 --> 2:14:11.040 Trig area. So when you get to Medame's Pool, then 2:14:11.040 --> 2:14:13.880 as you go through Trig or you go through Scarborough precincts, 2:14:14.440 --> 2:14:17.080 they're geofenps to only be able to do ten kilometers 2:14:17.080 --> 2:14:19.160 an hour. Now you put a bloke light and myself 2:14:19.200 --> 2:14:21.320 for yourself on them, Simon, you're probably struggling to get 2:14:21.320 --> 2:14:25.080 to walking pace at eight kilometers an hour. So they 2:14:25.120 --> 2:14:27.400 are allowed to open up to twenty five on the 2:14:27.440 --> 2:14:29.320 open areas and on the roads, and we may have 2:14:29.360 --> 2:14:30.560 a look at that, we may have a look at 2:14:30.600 --> 2:14:34.680 whether perhaps on paths that's restricted even further. But when 2:14:34.880 --> 2:14:37.280 you put that in perspective to the number of users 2:14:37.320 --> 2:14:41.800 on those paths, including normal bike users. E bike users 2:14:42.000 --> 2:14:44.280 know that, and I still say I reckon some of 2:14:44.280 --> 2:14:46.240 the worst users are the sixty year old blokes who've 2:14:46.240 --> 2:14:48.840 got surfboards and electric bike on the electric bikes are 2:14:48.840 --> 2:14:51.800 there worth six thousand dollars racing along forty kilometers an 2:14:51.800 --> 2:14:56.120 hour down these paths? Now the e writeable scooters in 2:14:56.160 --> 2:15:00.640 the last six month period there's twenty thousand users of 2:15:00.680 --> 2:15:04.320 those scooters, twenty thousand users of those scooters doing over 2:15:04.440 --> 2:15:08.400 forty thousand rides, so there's significant usage. And again you 2:15:08.480 --> 2:15:10.640 put that in perspective. In the city of Stirling, we've 2:15:10.680 --> 2:15:14.920 had the reports of say three minor injuries, very minor amounts, 2:15:15.440 --> 2:15:17.400 and it's not to say that tragedies can't happen, but 2:15:17.440 --> 2:15:20.640 I think it's important in these situations. Also whilst there 2:15:20.680 --> 2:15:23.880 is a tragedy and it requires a response. We've got 2:15:23.880 --> 2:15:26.720 to make sure we don't conflate every issue and try 2:15:26.720 --> 2:15:29.920 to resolve it at once. You know, and I'm sure 2:15:29.920 --> 2:15:31.720 some of your listeners have said this or had this 2:15:31.840 --> 2:15:36.320 same conversation, but if a drunk, non licensed individual jumped 2:15:36.320 --> 2:15:37.720 in a ute and put their mates in the back 2:15:37.760 --> 2:15:40.880 of a ute and had an accident, we wouldn't then 2:15:40.960 --> 2:15:43.720 take every suv off the road the next day. Like 2:15:43.760 --> 2:15:46.600 I think, it's about putting in perspective with the overall 2:15:46.680 --> 2:15:49.160 usage of this and the thing that we do know 2:15:49.240 --> 2:15:51.640 with any of these e writeables, the ones that have 2:15:51.720 --> 2:15:55.440 geofencing or that have restrictions and regulations around them are 2:15:55.480 --> 2:15:57.920 the safest of those vehicles, and it's important we have 2:15:58.040 --> 2:15:58.600 that control. 2:15:58.880 --> 2:16:01.520 Yeah, all right, still continue to chat about it and 2:16:01.520 --> 2:16:03.240 meet about it, but this stage you're happy with ten 2:16:03.320 --> 2:16:06.560 k's and congested areas that can open it to twenty 2:16:06.640 --> 2:16:08.520 five k's and you've got two hundred and fifty of them. 2:16:08.560 --> 2:16:13.480 Are there any by a scooter higher places in the city? 2:16:13.520 --> 2:16:15.120 Is are any Scarborough. 2:16:16.360 --> 2:16:18.240 Not separate to the ones that we use? I think 2:16:18.280 --> 2:16:21.080 there are some of the ones with the coinslot bikes, 2:16:21.440 --> 2:16:22.800 but not many in the city Austaily. 2:16:22.960 --> 2:16:23.560 Yeah, all right. 2:16:23.880 --> 2:16:25.680 Look, and one of the things that hasn't really been 2:16:25.760 --> 2:16:27.840 tested with these is whilst councils have a role in 2:16:27.920 --> 2:16:30.880 terms of trying to regulate them, the fact is we 2:16:30.960 --> 2:16:33.080 can't control if someone has a scooter or a bike 2:16:33.200 --> 2:16:36.840 or uses them. And I do think the fact that 2:16:36.840 --> 2:16:40.600 these companies are working with local governments to put restrictions 2:16:40.640 --> 2:16:43.960 and be sensible. They also provide, at their own costs, 2:16:44.040 --> 2:16:47.080 a lot of user awareness sessions and they have big 2:16:47.080 --> 2:16:49.440 set up displays during all of our markets on Saturday 2:16:49.440 --> 2:16:50.959 to make sure they engage. 2:16:50.600 --> 2:16:52.039 With the public on the safety issues. 2:16:52.680 --> 2:16:55.480 If we remove ourselves out of that ability to regulate 2:16:55.520 --> 2:16:58.200 them or market, there is potential they could just go 2:16:58.320 --> 2:17:00.720 rogue to some sense and start to operate anyway aside 2:17:00.720 --> 2:17:02.800 of local government. So I think it's important we maintain 2:17:02.879 --> 2:17:03.359 that control. 2:17:03.480 --> 2:17:05.960 Yeah, all right, Mark, thanks for your time. As always, 2:17:06.000 --> 2:17:07.160 thanks for talking to our listeners. 2:17:08.160 --> 2:17:10.160 Hey, can I just have a quick comment about the 2:17:10.200 --> 2:17:12.080 other thing that's been biag Have we got times on them? 2:17:12.160 --> 2:17:12.360 Yes? 2:17:12.360 --> 2:17:14.800 You do, all right, because if you read the paper 2:17:14.800 --> 2:17:16.760 to day, you think that every one of us mayors 2:17:16.760 --> 2:17:20.320 was an ego driven failed federal politician who loves boozing 2:17:20.400 --> 2:17:23.920 and eating oysters. According to the editor of The West Australian, 2:17:25.000 --> 2:17:27.160 I just wanted to put that in perspective. It's been 2:17:27.160 --> 2:17:30.920 a big story about local governments and corruption. I just 2:17:30.920 --> 2:17:33.959 want to challenge that and say that I think I'm 2:17:33.959 --> 2:17:37.160 a reasonably common sense sort of person. But to use 2:17:37.240 --> 2:17:40.360 examples where staff take out some counselors and there's a 2:17:40.440 --> 2:17:42.720 thousand dollar bill and say that it's ridiculous and they're 2:17:42.760 --> 2:17:45.800 living large X. You know, when you put that in perspective, 2:17:45.840 --> 2:17:48.400 there's possibly three or four executives in that, and I 2:17:48.440 --> 2:17:52.000 don't know the councilor he's referring to fourteen councils, three 2:17:52.040 --> 2:17:54.080 or four executive They could well have spent all day 2:17:54.120 --> 2:17:57.119 away from their families at a budget workshop or any 2:17:57.160 --> 2:18:00.320 of those sort of situations. To have a meal after that, 2:18:00.480 --> 2:18:03.080 I think passes a pub test. I think it's perfectly reasonable, 2:18:03.600 --> 2:18:06.720 and I think that, you know, staff and councilors in 2:18:06.720 --> 2:18:09.120 a local government should be allowed to eat. I just 2:18:09.160 --> 2:18:11.680 think it's probably blown a bit our of proportion. They're 2:18:11.680 --> 2:18:12.800 how to the highest. 2:18:12.480 --> 2:18:14.959 Account and the reason it is in the public realm. 2:18:14.959 --> 2:18:17.720 Is there how to the highest account of pretty well 2:18:17.720 --> 2:18:21.160 any public service in the country. Local governments have reporting 2:18:21.200 --> 2:18:24.800 standards and you know the order to process that we 2:18:24.879 --> 2:18:27.199 go through. For example, if you're worried about a council 2:18:27.280 --> 2:18:30.120 spending seventy dollars on a bottle of wine, just the 2:18:30.280 --> 2:18:32.960 auditing process that a local government costs US almost two 2:18:33.080 --> 2:18:36.800 hundred thousand dollars a year. Yeah, all right, and the 2:18:36.840 --> 2:18:38.120 right payers are paying for that as well. 2:18:38.200 --> 2:18:40.320 Yeah, all right, thank you, Mark That's yeah, that is 2:18:40.360 --> 2:18:42.320 another I'll come back to that because we're run late now. 2:18:42.320 --> 2:18:43.119 But yeah, the. 2:18:44.600 --> 2:18:45.560 Mate, I'll put your schedule off. 2:18:45.680 --> 2:18:47.520 No, no, that's all right, No, no, I'm always like 2:18:47.560 --> 2:18:49.400 having you on the show and having a chat to us. 2:18:49.440 --> 2:18:52.680 No moves on east scooters at this stage from cities 2:18:52.720 --> 2:18:56.680 stealing cheese, Mate, Marko and the mayor of the City 2:18:56.720 --> 2:18:58.720 of Silly. We'll come back in just a moment twenty 2:18:58.760 --> 2:19:01.160 two and a half minutes past. Yeah, thanks for listening 2:19:01.200 --> 2:19:04.000 in today. So the city was Stirling. Who are I 2:19:04.040 --> 2:19:08.080 think by population are our biggest council? Are not going 2:19:08.120 --> 2:19:10.840 to band scooters at this stage or the horrible scooters 2:19:11.680 --> 2:19:15.440 that's horrible, not horrible one level three A two Paul 2:19:15.800 --> 2:19:21.000 is has been looking around the joint in Rockingham a 2:19:21.080 --> 2:19:23.039 bit at scooters, could I Paul. 2:19:23.879 --> 2:19:25.560 Good as Simon l a good thank you? 2:19:26.680 --> 2:19:29.800 Yeah, no, listening to your program when I do. When 2:19:29.840 --> 2:19:32.680 I'm home, just going for a drive down the Rocky 2:19:32.720 --> 2:19:35.680 Foreshore from Wells Park through the Rocky Fall Shore. I've 2:19:35.720 --> 2:19:38.320 just gone past Pingos. Usually you see those these scooters 2:19:38.440 --> 2:19:41.480 littered everywhere. Yeah, not one to be seen anywhere. 2:19:41.920 --> 2:19:46.000 Yeah right, So that's that's near garden iem peinga penguin island. 2:19:46.080 --> 2:19:49.680 So Peingo's folks is nies. We're the ferry crosses for pengos. 2:19:49.680 --> 2:19:50.480 And there's none through. 2:19:50.360 --> 2:19:53.840 There, nothing there, even the Rocky Foreshore. Sometimes you've seen 2:19:54.280 --> 2:19:58.160 down getting up down at Wells Park in Serana and 2:19:58.200 --> 2:20:01.360 I'm not coming towards Mike and Keeway. Not any scooter 2:20:01.480 --> 2:20:03.959 to be swing. Usually got those purple ones there. 2:20:03.800 --> 2:20:06.640 Everywhere, the bean ones. Yeah all right, so none at 2:20:06.680 --> 2:20:09.160 all reckon do you reckon a weather thing or. 2:20:10.280 --> 2:20:13.320 Nah, they're out there all the time. I usually stay 2:20:13.360 --> 2:20:15.760 for a drive to keep me yet and just drop 2:20:15.840 --> 2:20:18.400 drive along for shore and he's seen dumped everywhere, but 2:20:18.560 --> 2:20:19.480 I'm not going to be seen. 2:20:19.680 --> 2:20:21.920 Yeah, all right, thank you, Paul, thanks for letting us know, 2:20:22.040 --> 2:20:27.600 mate jeess Paul from so that stretch from Quanana all 2:20:27.640 --> 2:20:31.400 along past the Grain Terminal, through Rockingham, sort of around 2:20:31.440 --> 2:20:35.480 past Point Pairing and through pingos So that Showwater Bay 2:20:35.560 --> 2:20:40.720 and through to Waikiki. No purple scooters. We are trying 2:20:40.720 --> 2:20:42.360 to get hold of the handling the mare to see 2:20:42.360 --> 2:20:45.080 if Rockingham have pulled their scooters as well. What will bumbydo, 2:20:45.480 --> 2:20:50.359 Busselton do? What will Freo do? Wherever there are higher 2:20:50.520 --> 2:20:55.880 scooters given the fatality of Saturday night allegedly mobile scooter 2:20:56.080 --> 2:21:00.600 horrible rider riding v pedestrian and the question has has 2:21:00.640 --> 2:21:02.360 passed away? Has come to their injuries? 2:21:02.480 --> 2:21:05.800 Hi Michael, oh, Hi, you know, I'd. 2:21:05.600 --> 2:21:09.000 Just like to mention with the scooters. I looked at 2:21:09.040 --> 2:21:11.160 the first ones, the stirm and got, and they are 2:21:11.200 --> 2:21:15.480 really heavy. They are like massively heavy, and they look 2:21:15.600 --> 2:21:18.920 dangerous to me when I looked at them. I am 2:21:18.959 --> 2:21:22.000 a scooter writer by a writer, just my private one 2:21:22.000 --> 2:21:26.039 which is a lot lighter. But yeah, I still think 2:21:26.080 --> 2:21:28.400 the scooters they've got they're just too heavy, and you 2:21:28.480 --> 2:21:31.280 see them on the footpaths and kids are not really 2:21:31.320 --> 2:21:33.640 looking where they're going, and even though they're not going 2:21:33.680 --> 2:21:37.120 that fast. Because of the weight of them, they could 2:21:37.160 --> 2:21:38.960 cause an enormous amount of damage. 2:21:39.600 --> 2:21:41.480 So Regnan, it's the design and the weight of them 2:21:41.480 --> 2:21:41.800 could be. 2:21:41.840 --> 2:21:44.080 It could be the way you have a look at them, 2:21:44.120 --> 2:21:47.440 they're just the weight is unbelievable. You can't hardly lift them. 2:21:47.800 --> 2:21:50.800 Yeah, all right, all right, cheers, Michael, thank you. That's interesting. 2:21:50.800 --> 2:21:53.360 You haven't heard that before. So we are talking about 2:21:53.440 --> 2:21:57.600 high scooters, folks. This one here from David. David e 2:21:57.760 --> 2:21:59.960 ridables are coming due to the cities globally being high 2:22:00.200 --> 2:22:03.320 congested and our governments are held bent on huge populations. 2:22:03.320 --> 2:22:05.840 Time to give up on banning everything, please, can't deal 2:22:05.879 --> 2:22:07.720 with the amount of laws already pass and judges let 2:22:07.720 --> 2:22:12.480 them out the doors anyway. So David's concern about sentencing 2:22:12.320 --> 2:22:17.640 in leniency in sentencing. This one here from Paul. Paul, 2:22:18.840 --> 2:22:21.600 Sorry not Paul, this is this is George in Mandra. 2:22:21.840 --> 2:22:23.680 The George a couple of the rules for EA scooters 2:22:23.720 --> 2:22:25.680 that people need to be over sixteen or wear a helmet. 2:22:26.480 --> 2:22:28.840 I see people daily in Manadra under sixteen and not 2:22:28.879 --> 2:22:31.800 wearing helmets. So policing seems to be non existent, and 2:22:31.840 --> 2:22:33.920 that you know, John and that is the probably the 2:22:33.959 --> 2:22:36.040 major issues, and how do you stop people from getting 2:22:36.040 --> 2:22:39.440 on board these things when they've had a skinful, you know, 2:22:40.000 --> 2:22:42.920 particularly with the riotables. Now this is a temporary measure 2:22:43.280 --> 2:22:45.199 from the City of Perth. They've picked all the scooters 2:22:45.280 --> 2:22:47.320 up today. There were six in front of our joint 2:22:47.320 --> 2:22:50.000 this morning out on the road. They've all gone and 2:22:50.040 --> 2:22:53.440 this is temporary at this stage. Helen says, why should 2:22:53.440 --> 2:22:58.360 the WA Combats Sports Mission, sorry Combat Sports Commission have 2:22:58.440 --> 2:23:01.480 to say on Bare knuckle Box the government has the 2:23:01.480 --> 2:23:04.640 powder banner, just do so, I reckon they are, Helen, 2:23:04.720 --> 2:23:06.360 this was always going to happen, this fight. As we 2:23:06.360 --> 2:23:08.959 said yesterday in the last couple of days on the show, 2:23:09.760 --> 2:23:12.840 will police also be charging underage e scooter riders as 2:23:12.879 --> 2:23:15.120 well as breath testing? The law is too difficult to 2:23:15.120 --> 2:23:16.920 comply with at the moment. All scooter riders should be 2:23:16.959 --> 2:23:20.199 over sixteen, regardless of their power. Thank you, Helen, absolutely 2:23:21.000 --> 2:23:24.840 spot on today. So you may have heard that the 2:23:25.080 --> 2:23:29.120 Tasmanian government they've had a no confidence motion expressed on 2:23:29.240 --> 2:23:32.360 them and this is obviously highly political, but it also 2:23:32.440 --> 2:23:35.080 goes to the budget and the amount of money there 2:23:35.120 --> 2:23:39.400 could be potentially spending on the new stadium, the AFL stadium. 2:23:39.520 --> 2:23:43.199 So this is an issue of extra of high importance 2:23:43.200 --> 2:23:46.400 to the Tasmanians and the Tasmanian government. This may mean 2:23:46.800 --> 2:23:50.320 that we may not get the Tasmanian AFL team. After all. 2:23:50.680 --> 2:23:54.480 Here is Brendan Gale, the CEO of the Tazzy Devils. 2:23:55.160 --> 2:23:57.440 Brendan spoke to Tom Elliott this morning on the three 2:23:57.480 --> 2:24:00.400 A W and this is what Brendan go I had 2:24:00.400 --> 2:24:00.959 to say. 2:24:01.360 --> 2:24:03.400 Well, no, it's not the end of the stadium. 2:24:03.480 --> 2:24:08.280 Look that the stadium has continued upon allegacy. Process through 2:24:08.320 --> 2:24:11.959 Parliament is to go through both houses of Parliament, and 2:24:12.040 --> 2:24:14.160 I guess to deal with the stadium is between the 2:24:14.200 --> 2:24:16.520 AFL and the Government of Tasmania. So look, if there's 2:24:16.560 --> 2:24:20.320 a if Jeremy survives, it's on course. If there's a 2:24:20.400 --> 2:24:22.520 change in leadership and the governments in place, well it's 2:24:22.560 --> 2:24:26.240 on course. I guess The challenge for the stadium and 2:24:26.760 --> 2:24:29.080 both stands of the team is if there's an election. 2:24:29.160 --> 2:24:32.800 I mean that pushed our timelines could be changing government, 2:24:32.920 --> 2:24:36.240 composition to parliament changes and there's all those risks which 2:24:36.480 --> 2:24:39.640 would place the stadium and hence the team at some risk. 2:24:39.959 --> 2:24:43.040 Our responsibility is to build a club and our club 2:24:43.120 --> 2:24:46.160 is distance has continued upon the stadium and that is 2:24:46.240 --> 2:24:49.959 between the AFL and and obviously the Tasmanian government. 2:24:50.080 --> 2:24:53.000 So look, you know there are some obligations. 2:24:52.440 --> 2:24:57.640 Around time and delivery of the infrastructure, and those timelines 2:24:57.680 --> 2:24:59.879 would put at risk and so there would be some 2:25:00.640 --> 2:25:02.680 we're to go to an election, there would be some 2:25:02.760 --> 2:25:05.760 nervousness from the AFL. I would think that that would 2:25:05.760 --> 2:25:06.320 be up to them. 2:25:06.360 --> 2:25:09.960 To a pine on that, to a pine on that. 2:25:09.959 --> 2:25:12.720 So it's Brendan Gale speaking to our man Tom Elliot, 2:25:12.879 --> 2:25:15.560 who is the host of the morning show on three AW. 2:25:16.840 --> 2:25:18.879 That was Brendan Gale's speaking to him this morning. So 2:25:18.879 --> 2:25:21.720 we are I think we're still awaiting the outcome of 2:25:21.760 --> 2:25:26.600 the no confidence motion. This is a parliamentary process as well, 2:25:26.640 --> 2:25:30.160 and bias nature a political process. So the parliament in 2:25:30.240 --> 2:25:33.160 Tazzy continues to debate the no confidence motion in the 2:25:33.200 --> 2:25:38.320 premiere and that of course is around budget, budget expenditure 2:25:38.480 --> 2:25:41.240 and expenser on the stadium. So you may recall I 2:25:41.240 --> 2:25:44.320 don't think the AFL tipped any money into our stadium whatsoever, 2:25:44.600 --> 2:25:46.800 and that's what the AFL does. We'll give you a 2:25:46.879 --> 2:25:50.080 license for clubs in your city, but you've got to 2:25:50.080 --> 2:25:53.840 build a stadium using your own rate payers money. We 2:25:54.160 --> 2:25:57.120 will come back after these and have a chat to you. 2:25:57.240 --> 2:25:57.440 Robin. 2:25:57.440 --> 2:25:58.800 I will talk to you in just a second. Thanks 2:25:58.840 --> 2:26:02.440 for your telephone call. It is twenty seven minutes to 2:26:02.440 --> 2:26:02.920 one o'clock. 2:26:13.520 --> 2:26:16.720 Still dealing with that chuck breakdown on Quanana Freeway northbound 2:26:16.720 --> 2:26:20.360 exit to Leech Highway westbounded Bateman. The left hand turner 2:26:20.640 --> 2:26:22.760 lane is blocked there. We've now got a crash on 2:26:22.800 --> 2:26:25.360 the Mitchell Freeway northbound exit to Charles Street and West 2:26:25.400 --> 2:26:27.840 Perth reduced to a single lane with the police on site. 2:26:28.040 --> 2:26:29.240 Traffic heavy on approach. 2:26:29.280 --> 2:26:32.120 So heading up the Mitchell this afternoon northbound at the 2:26:32.160 --> 2:26:34.760 moment Narrows Bridge through to the site of the crash. 2:26:35.120 --> 2:26:37.640 No delays on the Quanana Grain Farmer north Bridge Tunnel 2:26:37.800 --> 2:26:40.160 or the city. I'm Bruce Well from Perth's traffic leader 2:26:40.320 --> 2:26:41.560 six PR. 2:26:42.760 --> 2:26:43.480 Let's take pause. 2:26:43.520 --> 2:26:46.360 Let's go to our newsroom here at six PR. Good afternoon, John. 2:26:46.280 --> 2:26:49.280 Nichols, thank you, Simon, Good afternoon. The City of Perth 2:26:49.280 --> 2:26:53.240 has suspended the hiring of East scooters while investigations continue 2:26:53.240 --> 2:26:57.120 into Saturday night's fatal incident. Deputy Lord Mayor Bruce Reynolds 2:26:57.160 --> 2:27:00.400 says about five hundred scooters are now disabled. They're being 2:27:00.400 --> 2:27:03.800 collected from the streets while a final decision is made. 2:27:03.959 --> 2:27:07.280 Lithium iron batteries have been blamed for two house fires 2:27:07.320 --> 2:27:10.280 in Perth overnight. Investigators say a fire that broke out 2:27:10.280 --> 2:27:12.480 in the garage of a two story home in Hall's 2:27:12.480 --> 2:27:15.920 Head about half past nine was sparked by a loose battery, 2:27:16.120 --> 2:27:18.280 and a home in Spear Would's been destroyed by fire 2:27:18.360 --> 2:27:21.280 because of a power tool's lithium iron battery that was 2:27:21.360 --> 2:27:24.959 on charge, also in a garage. More than one hundred 2:27:25.120 --> 2:27:28.760 edged weapons have been confiscated around Perth under new laws 2:27:28.800 --> 2:27:33.200 allowing police to conduct random, non invasive scans. Since December, 2:27:33.280 --> 2:27:36.240 police have conducted more than fifty thousand searches in knife 2:27:36.320 --> 2:27:40.680 wanding areas including Perth and Northbridge. Eagles forward Jamie Cripps 2:27:40.680 --> 2:27:43.240 says putting his hand up for selection for Sunday's clash 2:27:43.320 --> 2:27:46.560 with North Melbourne. He had minut knee surgery following West 2:27:46.560 --> 2:27:50.320 Coast's win in round ten, but it's whether twenty degrees 2:27:50.320 --> 2:27:53.520 at the moment. Showers clearing today eight overnight partly cloudy 2:27:53.600 --> 2:27:55.959 and nineteen tomorrow there'll be more news. 2:27:55.680 --> 2:27:57.480 At one, thank you John, John not just before we 2:27:57.520 --> 2:27:59.320 get to Nichols Niche you are going to squeeze in 2:27:59.360 --> 2:28:02.160 a core for a robin if we may get a robin? 2:28:03.080 --> 2:28:05.320 Yeah, gotay s And look I live in Wenby down 2:28:05.400 --> 2:28:08.480 so city is Stirling And apart from the fact that 2:28:08.480 --> 2:28:12.800 these things are just dangerous, they're just littered everywhere on 2:28:12.840 --> 2:28:16.800 the ground, on corners, on roundabouts. Every morning you get up, 2:28:17.160 --> 2:28:19.000 drive down the beach front for a coffee and they're 2:28:19.040 --> 2:28:23.400 a mess. But a bigger issue assignment, I think evolving 2:28:24.000 --> 2:28:26.199 e bikes now. The other day I was driving down 2:28:26.879 --> 2:28:30.680 the boulevard in Floria, heading towards the florioad Forum. Four 2:28:30.760 --> 2:28:35.360 or five kids on e bikes or standing wheelis, on 2:28:35.400 --> 2:28:38.760 their back wheels, no helmets. I'm fourteen fifteen year olds 2:28:39.200 --> 2:28:42.039 driving as fast as the traffic all over the road 2:28:42.120 --> 2:28:45.200 like a little little gang of posse of young people. 2:28:46.360 --> 2:28:49.560 Control what day. It would have been nine to thirty 2:28:49.560 --> 2:28:52.440 in the morning, ten o'clock and they were on the 2:28:52.480 --> 2:28:55.040 footpath on the road on either side of the road. 2:28:55.760 --> 2:28:59.920 These things should be banned. These things are a danger 2:29:00.360 --> 2:29:03.520 not only to them but to other people. They're driving 2:29:03.560 --> 2:29:06.040 as fast as cars. No, almost nothing. 2:29:06.200 --> 2:29:08.400 Yeah, all right, Ron, thank you mate, We do appreciate you. 2:29:08.440 --> 2:29:08.640 Cool. 2:29:08.720 --> 2:29:11.000 Thank you. So that's a take on the city of Serving. 2:29:11.240 --> 2:29:12.760 I live in the city of Sterling. I don't see 2:29:12.800 --> 2:29:16.360 them littering the roads. Maybe just where I am you 2:29:16.440 --> 2:29:18.640 do see them, but I mean they stop people half 2:29:18.680 --> 2:29:20.400 off of them. When their money runs out, they stop 2:29:20.440 --> 2:29:22.360 and they can leave them there. They should leave them 2:29:22.400 --> 2:29:25.040 on their stands. Obviously one of our listeners, I think 2:29:25.080 --> 2:29:29.959 it's Jamie who's standing Bumbrey says Hi, Jamie, they are 2:29:30.160 --> 2:29:33.440 GPS GEO locked in Bumbray. You can't hire a scoodiny 2:29:33.480 --> 2:29:35.560 of the estuary in Bumbray because idiots throw them in. 2:29:36.000 --> 2:29:38.760 Same with council parks near pond. So I didn't know that, Jamie. 2:29:38.800 --> 2:29:42.040 Thank you. Certainly the story of the last few days 2:29:42.040 --> 2:29:44.600 giving them fatality. On the weekend, it is eighteen and 2:29:44.600 --> 2:29:45.440 a half minutes to one. 2:29:45.560 --> 2:29:51.280 Let's do this and now the fourth most talented musician 2:29:51.320 --> 2:29:54.840 in his family news reader extraordinary, for they are of 2:29:54.920 --> 2:29:57.920 condiments and small goods. While watching the bath first one 2:29:57.959 --> 2:30:01.440 thousand wear of a beetle shirt every Friday, but named 2:30:01.480 --> 2:30:05.160 his Pug after David Bowie, lover of Volkswagen golfs and 2:30:05.280 --> 2:30:10.600 peak spokesperson for the Madagascan radiated tortoise community. It's John 2:30:10.720 --> 2:30:13.320 Nichols presenting Nichols. 2:30:13.080 --> 2:30:19.320 Niche Grade intro, probably one of our longest intros, befitting 2:30:19.440 --> 2:30:22.920 the occasion, I think today, John, thank you, Simon. Yes, absolutely, 2:30:23.000 --> 2:30:24.840 Nichols Niche. What do you have for us today? 2:30:25.000 --> 2:30:28.959 Well, today, like last time, I'm going to be celebrating 2:30:29.040 --> 2:30:32.440 the sixtieth anniversary of an iconic song. Last time it 2:30:32.560 --> 2:30:36.400 was sixty years ago since Paul McCartney wrote the lyrics 2:30:36.400 --> 2:30:39.800 to Yesterday. And today it's the sixtieth anniversary of the 2:30:39.800 --> 2:30:41.879 release of this classic single. 2:31:00.879 --> 2:31:06.240 Great song. Absolutely Banger yep, total bang did set fair nickam. 2:31:06.440 --> 2:31:09.320 Banger one percent and as far as I can per 2:31:09.400 --> 2:31:15.600 banger yes finished okayah, as far as I can tell 2:31:15.640 --> 2:31:18.640 it sixty years because there's a little bit of uncertainty 2:31:18.640 --> 2:31:21.879 about whether it was yesterday, today or tomorrow that's the 2:31:21.879 --> 2:31:25.360 sixtieth anniversary, or it's released in the United States. I 2:31:25.440 --> 2:31:28.320 fed this into Google. We have a special account with 2:31:28.360 --> 2:31:30.600 Google and we can get it to do important things 2:31:30.680 --> 2:31:33.640 like this and it spat out a seven page report 2:31:34.480 --> 2:31:38.760 on the vext question of when the single of Satisfaction 2:31:38.879 --> 2:31:42.400 came out anyway, because it's Nichols niche day, I'm going 2:31:42.400 --> 2:31:45.960 to say it was sixty years ago today, June the fourth. 2:31:46.000 --> 2:31:48.840 In the seventh page report, wasn't offendive on the day? 2:31:49.200 --> 2:31:52.840 No, No, it said no, it couldn't really come down 2:31:52.879 --> 2:31:57.600 on one particular version. Next that says today, Yeah, yeah, 2:31:57.760 --> 2:32:02.040 what was I going to say? It'll come to me anyway. 2:32:02.879 --> 2:32:05.959 The song was written as it was a dream by 2:32:06.000 --> 2:32:10.120 Keith Richards he Reckons. He reckons. He got up one 2:32:10.120 --> 2:32:13.600 morning he saw that his cassette machine, and remember cassette 2:32:13.640 --> 2:32:16.280 machines were pretty high tech and fancy back in sixty five. 2:32:16.640 --> 2:32:18.960 He noticed that the cassette machine by his bed had 2:32:19.000 --> 2:32:21.119 gone all the way to the end, but he couldn't 2:32:21.120 --> 2:32:23.920 remember recording anything. So he rewinds the tape and has 2:32:23.959 --> 2:32:26.320 a listen. He hears himself getting up in the middle 2:32:26.360 --> 2:32:29.840 of the night. He plays the intro to I can't 2:32:29.840 --> 2:32:32.240 get No Satisfaction, and then there's half an hour of 2:32:32.320 --> 2:32:37.200 him snoring. So that's how we remembered his song. Mitt 2:32:37.280 --> 2:32:40.160 Jagger apparently wrote the lyrics sitting by the pool in 2:32:40.160 --> 2:32:42.920 Florida just days before they recorded it. They had a 2:32:42.959 --> 2:32:45.600 couple of goes at recording it. One was at Chess Studios, 2:32:45.640 --> 2:32:48.920 the famous studios in America. They had a more folksy 2:32:49.000 --> 2:32:52.560 version with Brian Jones playing harmonica. Then they decided to 2:32:52.640 --> 2:32:56.840 re record it at RCA Studios with Keith plugging his 2:32:56.879 --> 2:33:00.280 guitar into a fuzzbox and that is the icon next 2:33:00.280 --> 2:33:04.200 sound of satisfaction. But he just intended it as a placeholder. 2:33:05.120 --> 2:33:05.760 He said, this is. 2:33:05.680 --> 2:33:10.119 Where the horns will come in, and the producer said, nap, Actually, 2:33:10.200 --> 2:33:11.120 that'll probably do. 2:33:11.360 --> 2:33:11.560 Yeah. 2:33:12.080 --> 2:33:13.080 The producer was right there. 2:33:13.320 --> 2:33:15.840 They never know when they've recorded a number one classic 2:33:15.920 --> 2:33:17.879 hit because it was originally going to be a B 2:33:18.080 --> 2:33:22.000 side or an album filler, but eventually they decided to 2:33:22.040 --> 2:33:23.920 put it out as a single. It was their first 2:33:23.959 --> 2:33:24.840 American number one. 2:33:24.920 --> 2:33:25.959 You do hear a lot, don't you. 2:33:26.040 --> 2:33:28.240 We didn't realize at the time a lot of bands, 2:33:28.280 --> 2:33:30.400 so looking back, we had no idea. 2:33:30.200 --> 2:33:32.800 How did that become the single? Yeah, that was that 2:33:32.879 --> 2:33:36.120 even released. We just thought, yep, it's just another song, Divo, 2:33:36.240 --> 2:33:37.880 whip it another classic. 2:33:38.360 --> 2:33:38.560 Yep. 2:33:38.680 --> 2:33:40.080 They didn't think that was much. 2:33:41.000 --> 2:33:44.480 Take it Easy by the Eagles. Jackson Brown said, I 2:33:44.480 --> 2:33:47.520 can't do anything with this. Here you Go. It's the 2:33:47.560 --> 2:33:49.440 first song on their Greatest Hits album, There You Go. 2:33:49.680 --> 2:33:51.600 Nichols Niece continues, Yes, so. 2:33:51.800 --> 2:33:55.560 This is actually connected to the previous item because the 2:33:56.760 --> 2:33:59.879 fuzzbox that Keith used was a Gibson Maestro f said 2:34:00.280 --> 2:34:03.520 fuzz tone pedal, which sold out by the end of 2:34:03.600 --> 2:34:06.040 nineteen sixty five because everyone wanted to sound like Kief. 2:34:06.480 --> 2:34:08.440 But here's another Gibson related story. 2:34:08.640 --> 2:34:10.160 I can't guess you guys are ready for that. 2:34:10.360 --> 2:34:14.400 Yeah, but your kids are gonna love it. 2:34:14.800 --> 2:34:15.400 Yeah. 2:34:15.200 --> 2:34:15.400 Yeah. 2:34:15.480 --> 2:34:16.120 That's Michael J. 2:34:16.280 --> 2:34:21.360 Fox at the end of his special solo Shredding appearance 2:34:21.440 --> 2:34:23.640 on stage at the Enchantment under the Sea Dance in 2:34:23.680 --> 2:34:24.520 Back to the Future. 2:34:24.680 --> 2:34:25.440 Good reference job. 2:34:25.520 --> 2:34:27.760 Yeah, well, thank you. That was a Gibson ES three 2:34:27.959 --> 2:34:31.240 forty five. I don't know if you're familiar, but there's 2:34:31.280 --> 2:34:35.960 a worldwide search for that particular guitar because again Back 2:34:36.000 --> 2:34:37.640 to the Future, they didn't know it was going to 2:34:37.640 --> 2:34:40.400 be a classic movie. They didn't intend to make a sequel. 2:34:40.520 --> 2:34:43.120 But when they decided to make the sequel and they 2:34:43.120 --> 2:34:44.840 had to go back to nineteen fifty five, and re 2:34:45.040 --> 2:34:47.920 enact that scene. They had to find the same guitar 2:34:48.440 --> 2:34:50.720 and they couldn't find it. It's been missing ever since. 2:34:50.480 --> 2:34:51.959 To this day, to this day. 2:34:52.360 --> 2:34:55.560 So what happened is they decided, let's do a documentary 2:34:55.600 --> 2:34:58.920 about this, and this is where it gets a bit suss, 2:34:59.320 --> 2:35:01.960 starting a glow coble search. It's called Lost to the Future. 2:35:02.000 --> 2:35:05.520 There's a website, there's a YouTube page and everything. Michael J. 2:35:05.680 --> 2:35:09.560 Fox is in on this, along with Christopher Lloyd, Lea Thompson, 2:35:09.840 --> 2:35:13.000 Harry Waters Junior. He's the guy who played Chuck Berry's 2:35:13.120 --> 2:35:17.000 cousin yep and thereby helped invent rock and roll. And 2:35:17.040 --> 2:35:19.520 they're just calling for people to give hints. You know, 2:35:19.560 --> 2:35:21.840 someone must have it, blah blah blah. And they're making 2:35:21.879 --> 2:35:23.000 a documentary about it. 2:35:23.080 --> 2:35:23.440 Excellent. 2:35:23.560 --> 2:35:25.680 Yeah, but I reckon, if you're going to make a 2:35:25.680 --> 2:35:28.280 documentary about it, you probably know how it's going to end. 2:35:28.600 --> 2:35:30.760 I'm just saying that, Yeah, I reckon, it's going to 2:35:30.760 --> 2:35:31.080 turn up. 2:35:31.760 --> 2:35:33.600 They're going to find it. Yeah, I love that story. 2:35:33.640 --> 2:35:36.080 That's unreal. We talk about rats a little bit on 2:35:36.120 --> 2:35:38.000 the program yep and Rodents yep. 2:35:38.560 --> 2:35:42.400 Yeah, Welsh researchers. They're using glitter so they can track 2:35:42.520 --> 2:35:45.960 the movements of water voles, which are little rodents, a 2:35:46.000 --> 2:35:47.840 bit bigger than a rat, bit smaller than a quacker. 2:35:48.120 --> 2:35:50.840 They're pretty cute, but they're in dangered and they're being 2:35:50.879 --> 2:35:53.840 offered food covered in edible glitter in the hope that 2:35:53.920 --> 2:35:56.480 conservationists will be able to track their movement in the 2:35:56.520 --> 2:36:00.400 wild because the glitter should come out and they're pooh, 2:36:00.600 --> 2:36:02.400 and they will be able to track the little mammals 2:36:02.520 --> 2:36:05.200 like that. Different colors of glitter would be used to 2:36:05.240 --> 2:36:08.880 allow experts to track different families of water voles and 2:36:09.000 --> 2:36:10.959 how far they move and what they get up to. 2:36:11.400 --> 2:36:15.320 I think that's nice. That's nice. That's nice. I think 2:36:15.320 --> 2:36:17.920 that's nice. To John, John, thank you very much. You're 2:36:17.959 --> 2:36:21.600 welcome and Stella installment of Nichols Niche today. Love the 2:36:21.640 --> 2:36:24.840 story about the doggo on the guitar and John's reasonably 2:36:24.840 --> 2:36:27.879 confident the guitar is going to turn up. Thank you John. 2:36:27.959 --> 2:36:28.520 Okay, thank you. 2:36:28.600 --> 2:36:28.720 Rich. 2:36:28.920 --> 2:36:31.680 You'll hear John reading news throughout Perth Life Today with 2:36:31.720 --> 2:36:33.720 Oliver Peterson. We'll come back in just a moment if 2:36:33.720 --> 2:36:37.760 you want to call in one double three a daddy two. Yeah, 2:36:37.800 --> 2:36:39.320 just a reminder our call of the day today can 2:36:39.360 --> 2:36:42.360 win a family pizza night with some garlic bread and 2:36:42.400 --> 2:36:45.720 a peach of your choosing all beautiful home produce. It's 2:36:45.879 --> 2:36:48.280 the new home Slice up in Mindari rung by Liam. 2:36:48.360 --> 2:36:51.080 Liam's only a young guy and he's offered up our 2:36:51.120 --> 2:36:55.440 call of the Day prize for the entirety of this week. 2:36:56.280 --> 2:36:58.119 World on to Liam. So it's in Mindari. It's called 2:36:58.160 --> 2:37:01.560 home Slice. Jacko's two for tonight. So Glen Jakovich has 2:37:01.600 --> 2:37:03.320 a tip for our Thursday night footy which would be 2:37:03.320 --> 2:37:06.720 a great game actually, the Bulldogs versus Hawthorne at Marvel 2:37:06.920 --> 2:37:09.480 Hawthorne looking for redemption after a poor couple of weeks, 2:37:09.760 --> 2:37:12.800 and the Bullies could be anything or beat anybody, couldn't 2:37:12.800 --> 2:37:15.800 they Big Glen Jakovitch tonight has tipped the Bulldogs by 2:37:15.800 --> 2:37:18.840 twenty one points. Jacko will join us for sport tomorrow 2:37:18.879 --> 2:37:21.879 with his tips for the rest of the round. I'll 2:37:21.879 --> 2:37:23.520 bring you up to date with a yes no poll 2:37:23.600 --> 2:37:25.439 as well about judicial sentencing. 2:37:25.720 --> 2:37:29.440 Hi, Susan I, Hello Simon, how are you good? 2:37:29.440 --> 2:37:29.760 Thank you? 2:37:30.280 --> 2:37:32.760 I'm just bringing out the same as probably a lot 2:37:32.760 --> 2:37:35.560 of your other callers have rung. As far as the 2:37:35.720 --> 2:37:39.119 scooters Golow, but just an incident that happened to myself 2:37:39.120 --> 2:37:42.440 and my husband. We were walking along the citys Stirling. 2:37:42.800 --> 2:37:47.119 We were walking along Beaufort Street going towards Englewood area, 2:37:47.280 --> 2:37:49.959 so it was actually a City of Sterling area, and 2:37:50.080 --> 2:37:52.680 we were both holding hands walking on the roots. There's 2:37:52.760 --> 2:37:55.760 cleenty of room on the other side of footpath for 2:37:55.840 --> 2:37:58.840 anyone to have passed us. But this scooter with two 2:37:58.879 --> 2:38:04.200 of them on eared went right between us and the 2:38:04.280 --> 2:38:05.360 road virtually. 2:38:05.879 --> 2:38:07.359 And how that we did both. 2:38:07.120 --> 2:38:10.240 Of it and get knocked over. It's a real shock surprise, 2:38:10.720 --> 2:38:12.640 but I would have done a lot of damage as well. 2:38:12.800 --> 2:38:13.160 You see. 2:38:13.360 --> 2:38:15.680 Yeah, then the of Stirling it's the same with all 2:38:15.680 --> 2:38:18.439 the counts. Looks like they've got to come hard. 2:38:18.280 --> 2:38:19.359 Down on these scooters. 2:38:19.600 --> 2:38:21.959 Was it a black one, Susan, like a privately owned 2:38:21.959 --> 2:38:23.240 one you reckon? Was it going fast? 2:38:23.360 --> 2:38:24.320 It was? It was a. 2:38:24.280 --> 2:38:26.440 Privately owned one and it was going fast. 2:38:26.520 --> 2:38:26.840 Yeah. 2:38:26.879 --> 2:38:29.720 Yeah, they didn't stop it with two girls. They would 2:38:29.840 --> 2:38:31.640 have stopped if we had it pulled on over. 2:38:31.920 --> 2:38:34.840 Yeah, Okay, all right, Susan, I'm glad you're okay, glad 2:38:34.879 --> 2:38:38.720 you're safe still, but that's yeah, look we're getting look 2:38:39.720 --> 2:38:41.760 getting a lot of told you so from our listeners 2:38:41.760 --> 2:38:44.320 who predicted this that they would they are dangerous, they 2:38:44.320 --> 2:38:47.800 would be dangerous and something serious would happen. Getting a 2:38:47.800 --> 2:38:51.959 lot of correspondence on that today. Oliver's are on between 2:38:52.280 --> 2:38:54.000 one and five today with Perth Live. So make sure 2:38:54.000 --> 2:38:55.840 you're listening to Oli. Heud probably be talking to a 2:38:55.840 --> 2:38:59.320 lot of my friends. For my friends, people who started 2:38:59.320 --> 2:39:03.720 out on our show doing different things, you know, finance technology. 2:39:04.480 --> 2:39:07.000 I'll you be talking to my mates for four hours 2:39:07.040 --> 2:39:09.920 after only joking. It's in career best form. Make sure 2:39:09.920 --> 2:39:14.560 we listen to Perth Live today. Jacko's tip just to 2:39:14.600 --> 2:39:17.560 repeat twenty one points for the bullies tonight. One double 2:39:17.600 --> 2:39:21.039 three eight eighty two is the number. Olive Peterson joins 2:39:21.080 --> 2:39:23.280 us now Hello Oliver, Hello Simon, how are you? Yeah? 2:39:23.280 --> 2:39:23.440 Good? 2:39:23.440 --> 2:39:24.720 You're talking to any of my friends today? 2:39:24.720 --> 2:39:27.600 I've just been Trevorlong yep, some now longer a friend, 2:39:27.720 --> 2:39:28.920 Jamie Burnett yep. 2:39:29.080 --> 2:39:32.360 Former friends, yep, all your friends? You get my kids on? 2:39:32.560 --> 2:39:34.640 Is Mick Collis ready to come back after. 2:39:36.240 --> 2:39:42.600 Yeah? No, no, Hazel Beaumont, shit be on. They say 2:39:42.600 --> 2:39:43.959 you're not supposed to be friends with your kids. 2:39:44.040 --> 2:39:44.800 Yeah, they do. 2:39:45.240 --> 2:39:47.160 I'm friends with that one. Yeah he's a ripper. 2:39:47.280 --> 2:39:51.400 Yeah yeah, But I think you know how it's funny 2:39:51.640 --> 2:39:53.760 you say that because you know, we get so much 2:39:53.760 --> 2:39:55.119 advice out with his parents. 2:39:55.360 --> 2:39:56.439 But I was watching something. 2:39:56.240 --> 2:39:59.520 The other day. We don't have to give a justification 2:39:59.680 --> 2:40:03.120 for why we say no as parents, and we feel 2:40:03.200 --> 2:40:05.360 these days you do. And it's not because we don't 2:40:05.360 --> 2:40:07.680 want to tell our kids that they can't do something. 2:40:07.680 --> 2:40:10.240 It's for their own best interests. Okay, And I think 2:40:10.360 --> 2:40:10.879 that's a bit true. 2:40:10.879 --> 2:40:12.360 You know, when I was growing up, can you do this? No, 2:40:13.080 --> 2:40:15.640 didn't ask why. It's just like, okay, that's just the decision. 2:40:16.560 --> 2:40:20.240 This sounds like Carl Baron's kit. Stop, don't go any 2:40:20.280 --> 2:40:22.760 further and more flies, he'd go. 2:40:23.920 --> 2:40:25.640 I suppose I've seen Carl Barrion in a while. 2:40:25.720 --> 2:40:27.720 No, I haven't what you got for us, mate. 2:40:27.760 --> 2:40:30.360 So this afternoon, Bowie, we will be having a chat 2:40:30.360 --> 2:40:32.840 about the flag, of all things, the Australian flag. New 2:40:32.879 --> 2:40:34.800 survey out showing most people like the flag, so we 2:40:34.800 --> 2:40:37.240 when I was trying to scratch the surface on that one. 2:40:37.680 --> 2:40:40.480 We'll also have a chat about the ridiculous fees a 2:40:40.520 --> 2:40:44.280 lot of specialists are charging patience and why the private 2:40:44.320 --> 2:40:46.520 health insurers in our coming out saying, hold on a minute, 2:40:46.720 --> 2:40:49.240 you need to do something about this because it's just 2:40:49.360 --> 2:40:51.960 so damn expensive. It costs more than the actual broken 2:40:52.080 --> 2:40:54.400 leg itself. So we're going to scratch into that issue 2:40:54.400 --> 2:40:56.000 this afternoon. And what's your beef? We can win a 2:40:56.040 --> 2:40:57.640 Tory butcher Tomahawk's steak? 2:40:57.760 --> 2:41:01.760 How good? How good? So good? So good? Is the 2:41:02.000 --> 2:41:04.879 Are you concerned with sentencing from the judicial system at 2:41:04.920 --> 2:41:08.200 the moment? Given the Nick Campo situation yesterday, Oliver, you 2:41:08.200 --> 2:41:10.080 have the final word, but yes is a sixty three 2:41:10.120 --> 2:41:11.959 the nose nine? Yes, you're a yes? 2:41:12.240 --> 2:41:12.440 Yes? 2:41:12.480 --> 2:41:14.400 All right? Thank you mate? Any mate? Chap Wonder five 2:41:14.480 --> 2:41:17.640 Perth Life today, Tune in listening, call him, We'll come back. 2:41:17.680 --> 2:41:19.360 We let you know who's one call of the day 2:41:19.440 --> 2:41:22.520 A very very strong response. Our list is not happy 2:41:22.800 --> 2:41:26.600 with the leniency of the sentences. They're seeing. How good 2:41:26.600 --> 2:41:30.000 Genesis it's coming up to good Hey, Jimmy, love it, 2:41:30.120 --> 2:41:32.400 love it me too. So our call of the day 2:41:32.400 --> 2:41:34.879 today is Nicole, who rang in about giving money to people. 2:41:34.920 --> 2:41:37.400 Thank you, Nicole. You want a family pizza night from home? 2:41:37.440 --> 2:41:40.520 Slice in Mindari and so home Slice cafe in pizza bar. 2:41:40.560 --> 2:41:43.440 Actually they're in Mindari. Two pizzas, garlic bread, your choice 2:41:43.440 --> 2:41:46.440 of soft drink in house or pick up. Thanks to 2:41:46.480 --> 2:41:48.640 Liam at Home Slice, young bloke doing his best up 2:41:48.680 --> 2:41:53.160 in Mindari rip a menu artisan pizzas and sides using 2:41:53.160 --> 2:41:56.720 local produce. Home Slice him Mindari. Don't have a look, 2:41:56.760 --> 2:41:58.560 go and check them out. I know I will on 2:41:58.600 --> 2:42:01.440 the show tomorrow. Glenn Jackovich looking footy sport on Life, 2:42:01.800 --> 2:42:05.680 Barnsey's Burnout tomorrow. Lisa Barnes from the Burbs and Merse 2:42:05.760 --> 2:42:08.440 back with his Magile Mystery Tour. Thanks for today, been 2:42:08.480 --> 2:42:10.039 a big show. Thanks for being part of it. Make 2:42:10.040 --> 2:42:12.840 sure you keep it on six pur Tsavo and right 2:42:12.920 --> 2:42:15.080 through twenty four hours a day, seven days a week 2:42:15.120 --> 2:42:17.680 if you can. And we'll allie up next with Perth 2:42:17.760 --> 2:42:17.960 Live