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Speaker 1: Insideline back for another week. Justin Harrison, Matt, Rogersy and

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Speaker 1: Peyton in the house just quickly, big big day for Queensland,

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Speaker 1: New South Wales. Obviously that other code sate of Origent.

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Speaker 1: Good well done on wearing a little tinge of our

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Speaker 1: own today.

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Speaker 2: Well I knew that my little boyfriend was coming on,

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Speaker 2: so I want to give him a stomach to cry on.

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Speaker 2: I can't say shot it because he comes up at it.

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Speaker 3: I did not know.

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Speaker 1: I did not know you were such a proud Queenslander.

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Speaker 1: You have warmed my heart today. But let's talk some

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Speaker 1: big news in the world of rugby and a story

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Speaker 1: written by our VERIONI and Peyton which is out today.

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Speaker 1: That Golden Point or super Point as we know it

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Speaker 1: in Super Rugby Pacific is being looked at as a

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Speaker 1: possibility of being included in the British and Irish Lines

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Speaker 1: tour Australia this year.

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Speaker 4: Well, it surprised me that it's actually taken this long

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Speaker 4: to kind of come up really, So obviously the twenty

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Speaker 4: seventeen series was a drawer, and you know the captains

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Speaker 4: were there both looking a bit po faced and the.

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Speaker 3: Sharing the series.

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Speaker 4: So I mean it was just a matter of asking

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Speaker 4: whether you know whether golden point would be employed for

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Speaker 4: this year series got onto field Wall yesterday said yes,

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Speaker 4: they've had conversations with the lines about and making sure

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Speaker 4: that there's a chance for a winner to be found obviously.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 4: It's they've put that forward to the to the Lions,

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Speaker 4: waiting on an answer back.

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Speaker 3: Essentially, it would be for all three tests.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of been it's been read into that it

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Speaker 4: was just the third test, so it would be for

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Speaker 4: all three tests. I think the model around the Super

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Speaker 4: Rugby one, which is a period of ten minutes and

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Speaker 4: then if there's no result, it's a draw.

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Speaker 1: I think first point score any in any.

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Speaker 4: And I know you've got thoughts about that, but essentially,

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Speaker 4: I guess you don't want to game the first test

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Speaker 4: going for one hundred and twenty minutes, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean, so with another two tests to play, so

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Speaker 4: that's to be a cut off point at sometimes maybe.

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Speaker 2: The third I want to go.

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Speaker 4: The third test, the third test you just play for

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Speaker 4: three days if you need, until you find a winner.

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Speaker 4: I think it's common sense, isn't it, Like we're in

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Speaker 4: the modern sporting games.

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Speaker 5: But the fact that they were talking about just having

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Speaker 5: it for the game three. What if they draw the

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Speaker 5: first game, British and Irish lines win the second, and

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Speaker 5: then Australia win the third in golden point.

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Speaker 4: Like no, no, it's not sorry. Lack of communication now

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Speaker 4: on my part is not just for it.

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Speaker 3: It'd be for all three, so you would have a

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Speaker 3: winner for each, which would makes.

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Speaker 2: Sense to the winners. Ask every losing team in a

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Speaker 2: super point scenario where they agree with it after having

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Speaker 2: lost the jeopardy of that is not insignificant a big

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Speaker 2: series like that to be decided on a golden on

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Speaker 2: a super point.

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Speaker 5: Or is that like instantly golden point or super point

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Speaker 5: whatever they're calling it.

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Speaker 1: You mean if you kick a penalty, Yeah, instantly.

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Speaker 4: They're not having extra time first, they don't do that

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Speaker 4: these days. Well certainly what are they doing in the

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Speaker 6: Five each way and then go into golden point.

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Speaker 1: I would probably prefer that, like have an extra time.

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Speaker 5: Five each way and then if you can't get it,

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Speaker 5: it's like they have extra time in soccer, and then

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Speaker 5: if they can't get result, let's go to penalties. I

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Speaker 5: game type situations. What I found in Golden Point, things

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Speaker 6: But in Golden Point, you know.

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Speaker 5: It gets exposed because the referee is not blowing the whistle.

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Speaker 5: Things get brought up. It becomes conjecture around the game.

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Speaker 5: There's controversy, controversy around the win, the loss, and it

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Speaker 5: just puts a bad spin on the game. I think

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Speaker 5: they need extra time first before they get a Golden Point.

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Speaker 1: Do you think with a series of this magnitude it

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Speaker 2: But the idea of a horn match and not having

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Speaker 2: there is merit in a drawn series because of the

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Speaker 2: notion of the three games. It's such a close contest.

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Speaker 2: Both teams come away with an amount of integrity but

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Speaker 5: So the people that hold the shield.

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Speaker 2: The commerciality of from twelve, the commerciality of being the

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Speaker 2: British and Ice Lions champion as opposed to I.

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Speaker 4: Just don't I mean, I take the point, but I

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Speaker 4: just don't see why we're squeamish about fronting a winner.

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Speaker 3: You play eighty minutes.

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Speaker 2: Losing, right, so I guess, you know, be a champion

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Speaker 3: There are some hairs on it, like to your point.

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Speaker 4: And yours right that referees arm could decide the series

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Speaker 4: like he spots them. So yeah, there might be some

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Speaker 4: there might be some fanangling around that, but I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I just don't say it because it's already coming out now,

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Speaker 4: Like there's there's a lot of people who are just

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Speaker 4: don't want to you know, why can't we just have

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Speaker 4: have to have a winner, and it's like, what are

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Speaker 4: we playing here for?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: Look, I think I think extra I think World Cup model.

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Speaker 2: It's fine, extra time and frequent.

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Speaker 4: I know that at the risk of bringing up some

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Speaker 4: it was getting to a point where like Johnny almost

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Speaker 4: otherwise we're going to another Is there another.

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Speaker 1: In this could be.

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Speaker 2: Less than too many?

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Speaker 3: Let me let me finish.

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Speaker 4: Let me finish my point because eventually, if you guys

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Speaker 4: had to battle it out and you got to goal kicks, like,

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Speaker 4: how how dissatisfying would that be?

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Speaker 3: If you're lost in goal kicks, Regin, you know what

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Speaker 2: But you losing goal kicks for a golden point. If

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Speaker 2: someone kicks a penalty, yeah, that's a goal kick. So

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Speaker 2: at least you've got you've got a bit of a

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Speaker 2: for penalty shootouts, there's a bit of intrigue. We know

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Speaker 2: there's an immediacy of feedback when you score, but there's

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Speaker 2: I think that's probably the most exotic convenience solution. Adopt

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Speaker 2: the World Cup model because, by the way, all nations

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Speaker 2: that are playing in the British ice lines and Australia

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Speaker 2: have already accepted that that model is acceptable in the

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Speaker 2: World Cup, So why would you not accept that? For

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Speaker 2: a British I need to invent something new here. This

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Speaker 2: is just inheriting what's already been in practice since nineteen

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Speaker 2: eighty seven.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a really good point. What's the

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Speaker 1: likelihood paid? Are you getting a sense of how likely

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Speaker 1: this gets approved?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: I mean obviously Rugby Australia.

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Speaker 2: How would have been to see a penalty shootout in

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Speaker 2: British ice lines at the end of the thing?

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Speaker 1: I would I would love James Slipper astead up?

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Speaker 3: Oh god, person, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I'd rather I'd rather it's resolved in a footy in

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Speaker 4: a footy game.

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Speaker 2: Accidental slip, accidental clean out, head high penalty, go on,

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Speaker 2: have a high tackle framework. Now the fragility contest in

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Speaker 2: the escort line, there's a collapse scrum.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't like the golden point or super point.

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Speaker 2: I like the super point, but I think the fragility

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Speaker 2: of how you can you can end the British nice

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Speaker 2: tmos reaching in and all sorts of different things, I

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Speaker 2: think that the best and first representation is multiple chances,

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Speaker 2: an extra time, multiple chances in a penalty shootout. It's

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Speaker 2: already in play with World Cup let's get on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some resistance that you hinted that is it

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Speaker 1: time you reckon?

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Speaker 3: Look, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I just think that golden point if you're looking at

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Speaker 4: rightly or wrongly, you know, if it's a penalty.

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Speaker 3: Or whatever, that that's I don't. I don't know. I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to see props kicking goals to decide

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Speaker 3: You know, like it just doesn't feel right.

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Speaker 2: Matt Dunning knocked over a goal, losing the game against

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Speaker 2: winning game. It's the most replayed, compelling piece of content

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Speaker 5: Yeah, compelling, the greatest movie.

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Speaker 3: As far as the actual I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Rugby Australia obviously put it forward, so there came for

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Speaker 4: it to happen. I don't know the model about, you know,

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Speaker 4: whether it'd be that super point the ten minutes and

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Speaker 4: then it's a draw.

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Speaker 3: Maybe this a draw is still on the table.

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Speaker 4: I just like the idea that, you know, the two

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Speaker 4: find a winner.

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Speaker 2: You know to be a revelation, why don't you ask

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Speaker 2: the players, because that's how we got to super point.

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Speaker 2: Players were involved in the discussion in the players because

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Speaker 2: we're talking about integrity of competition and we want player

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Speaker 1: You think you think the Aussie side at least would

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Speaker 1: support it, given that they That's how we landed on

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you don't know, you don't know. It's the feedback

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Speaker 2: it's time stamped and it's right, So you know that

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Speaker 2: would be a good one.

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Speaker 1: We have seen that the North and that's a very

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Speaker 1: broad brush, but the North have been slow to move

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Speaker 1: on some law changes but fans and the fans yet

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Speaker 1: fair enough, let's do a pole. But we we have

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Speaker 1: seen that they've there's slowly been an acceptance of the

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Speaker 1: twenty minute red card because that PATO has been approved

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Speaker 1: to be applied during the Lion series.

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Speaker 4: So that the global the trial a loose track a

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Speaker 4: we're up to is still in a trial stage. I

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Speaker 4: think that's been extended to a Global Trial, So all

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Speaker 4: the World Rugby meetings. All competitions will now be under

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Speaker 4: the twenty minute red card. That obviously leaves that left

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Speaker 4: the line series. Just prior to that, Lions and RA

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Speaker 3: So yes, the twenty minute red card will be used.

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Speaker 5: But that is one of the smartest moves Rugby I've

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Speaker 6: It just you keep the integrity of the game.

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Speaker 2: Well, the criticism is that the lens is applied commercially

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Speaker 2: It's not diminishing the validity of a red card and

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Speaker 1: It's as good mentioned before when I said that the

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Speaker 2: The question for you, yeah, do you reckon it's because

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Speaker 4: What about yeah right, yeah, well that's a good recon

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you to think the optics. The

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Speaker 3: I think it's relief that makes sense to your belief structure.

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Speaker 4: Whether you still think people are trying to get away

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so.

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Speaker 4: Therefore to blow a whole game up over, Yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 4: change at a training ground level where it's like, let's

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Speaker 3: Keeps going like it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the days of someone being centered on the field

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Speaker 5: The game's too hard to put someone in to go

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Speaker 6: It's just not I don't see it in the game anywhere.

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Speaker 2: In a game. Your teammates are indiot. You know, I

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Speaker 1: We discussed shoeing you threatened to shoe me all the.

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Speaker 3: You're too busy.

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Speaker 4: And to square the circle is that the punishment has

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised. I'll throw be devil's advocate here

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Speaker 4: Honest, I think this one's just flying by without a

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Speaker 6: On from that.

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Speaker 1: Well we should move on to because there's some big

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Speaker 1: news in recent days that a World Club Cup has

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Speaker 2: Not yet.

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Speaker 4: I think there's a general enthusiasm for something like this

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Speaker 3: So it's been.

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Speaker 4: Discussed for decades that the World Club Challenge could get

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Speaker 3: They want to move ahead with the proposal.

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Speaker 1: Agreed over proven all were good there, we're all good.

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Speaker 4: So Super Rugby and uh, you know, I think there's

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Speaker 3: Need to still we have this sign off and again.

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Speaker 1: Do you that's the hard but without firstly getting into

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Speaker 1: the how does it work?

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Speaker 2: Stuff?

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Speaker 3: Do you like that?

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Speaker 6: I love it?

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Speaker 3: That was what it does.

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Speaker 5: I remember we back in my league days, we had

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Speaker 6: To the representative level.

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Speaker 5: Playing in a great club side opened their eyes up

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Speaker 6: How they put it all together. That's going to be

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Speaker 5: But in terms of it as a competition, I would

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Speaker 1: Know, isn't Isn't that what the Nations Cup is going

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Speaker 2: Is well? Rugby is trying to find windows and opportunities

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, do you want to get a passport? What's

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Speaker 2: that thing? Let's play nur l. We'll go and understand

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Speaker 2: clearly in Super Rugby means moving the Super Rugby season forward,

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Speaker 2: play welfare. So there are the three islands at the

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Speaker 2: moment that still needs to be agreed. So when we

447
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Speaker 2: say conceptually yes, Macro, no problem, these.

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Speaker 1: Are details that need to Thanks for not putting us asleep.

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Speaker 2: I'm not put your sleep, I'm away. Was that quick enough? Yeah,

450
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Speaker 2: pretty good? I agree. I'll get their trouble for talking

451
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Speaker 2: for too long. These are complex, right, they are right.

452
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Speaker 1: That was unfair of me.

453
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Speaker 2: That was unfair.

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Speaker 3: That's absolutely right. Lot of mouth watering right. The idea

455
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Speaker 3: finally we now can figure that out.

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Speaker 4: But the way they're talking about it is that it

457
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Speaker 4: would be played in June. So and finnily enough, the

458
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Speaker 4: season's the end of our seasons actually marry up perfectly,

459
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Speaker 4: like the English finish up at the same time as us.

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Speaker 4: They just play for three or four months longer. It

461
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Speaker 4: would be put in June, is what they're talking about.

462
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Speaker 4: Two pools of what are we talking two pools of eight?

463
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Speaker 4: So you're talking like three games each plus the finals.

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Speaker 4: So it's a month of footy. That's still a long

465
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Speaker 4: time to be Like for the Brumbies in the warld

466
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Speaker 4: does to get on a plane and go to live

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Speaker 4: in the UK for a month.

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Speaker 3: So maybe the idea is it doesn't need to be

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Speaker 3: that big, like just send your top two teams.

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Speaker 1: I think, but the notion of seven teams from Super

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Speaker 1: Rugby is too many. Too many? Yeah, and then even

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Speaker 1: eight from the Champions Couple UK and you're just just.

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Speaker 4: Send send your best two warriors into the thunder Dame

474
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Speaker 4: and you know, Sammy's in final.

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Speaker 3: Like you still figure out I'd watch the hell out

476
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Speaker 3: of that.

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Speaker 4: But so and so talking to Phil yesterday, said that

478
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Speaker 4: the the preference would be to not contract the Super

479
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Speaker 4: Rugby season, so you would currently if you're moving at

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Speaker 4: four three weeks, you're starting in the middle of January, right,

481
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Speaker 4: so it's.

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Speaker 3: Pretty hot, which runs up against Daniel.

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Speaker 4: So the Wallabies boys usually only turn up back up

484
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Speaker 4: to work around January ten. But having said that, they

485
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Speaker 4: would start holidays earlier because the World Cup is finishing

486
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Speaker 4: in November the year before, so that might not be

487
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Speaker 4: such a problem. But then you know, you've got suber

488
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Speaker 4: Rugby has been push from pillar to post and changed

489
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Speaker 4: a thousand times, and you know.

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Speaker 1: So just a little bit. Yeah, there's one thing, yes

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Speaker 1: to that point in your story that I was quite

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Speaker 1: impressed with, or that I liked hearing from Key Priority

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Speaker 1: that they don't suffering from a continuous change trying to

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Speaker 1: keep some continuity in it, so.

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Speaker 4: They would they would at most move the season, just

496
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Speaker 4: pick it up and move it instead of like, okay,

497
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Speaker 4: we won't play finals, we'll do first past the post

498
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Speaker 4: or you know, like I think that that's what risk analysis.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, risk and benefit existing product versus enticing concept into reality, meritocracy, meritocracy,

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Speaker 2: everyone with funding requirement play, wefare workplace conditions. Do the

501
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Speaker 2: unions agree? You know, there's lots of moving parts. It's

502
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Speaker 2: it's it is an intoxicating concept, and players often talk about,

503
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Speaker 2: you know, wanting to solve the issue, and I wonder

504
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Speaker 2: we knew the consequences. I wonder if you talk about

505
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Speaker 2: player retention right, So then contract modeling will start to

506
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Speaker 2: look further than just the World Cup years work up

507
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Speaker 2: to World Cup, because you'll want your strongest teams to

508
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Speaker 2: be entering into a World Clup challenge if it's got

509
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Speaker 2: validity and marquee status and maybe even surprise money. Who knows,

510
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Speaker 2: you know that that could be a thing as well.

511
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Speaker 2: You'd hate to think that World Cup the team that's

512
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Speaker 2: performed very well. So the Brumby's have got you know,

513
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Speaker 2: five or six players that they've contracted just about right,

514
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Speaker 2: and then they're all going over seas and they will

515
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Speaker 2: pop up at less and then less benefit from those

516
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Speaker 2: blanks playing for who knows right. You know, you're like, oh,

517
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Speaker 2: hang on a minute, we want that back.

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Speaker 4: And the other hurdle is that there's all tests or

519
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Speaker 4: the four Tests on the other side of it, so

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Speaker 4: everyone has to jump on planes. And now the Nation's Cup,

521
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Speaker 4: so everyone comes to the South in July, so that'd

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Speaker 4: have to you'd have to carve out.

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Speaker 3: Another couple of weeks to make sure everyone's right apart.

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Speaker 1: Wonder if the model is you do away with you

525
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Speaker 1: do away with a mid year test window for that

526
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Speaker 1: year in July when the North come down here and

527
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Speaker 1: we play two Tests against Wales, one Test against et cetera.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that one year, No way, every four years, you

529
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Speaker 1: do away with it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's too much money.

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Speaker 1: Well that's whether this can generate a place.

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Speaker 5: Could I mean there's a lot, there's there'll be a

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Speaker 5: lot of games to be played. It could generate it

534
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Speaker 5: just it's new trying.

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Speaker 2: To know what is don't know. We don't know what

536
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Speaker 2: it could generate. It's been talked about for a long

537
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Speaker 2: time and the sticking point has been someone to say,

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Speaker 2: here's the here is the money, this is how it's

539
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Speaker 2: going to be dispersed. Ultimately, that is a big rock

540
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Speaker 2: that needs to be solved.

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Speaker 3: Were good idea.

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Speaker 6: I love.

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Speaker 3: We shouldn't be happy, we shouldn't be afraid of a.

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Speaker 6: Like worked out. But I think in principle, I think

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Speaker 6: it'd be.

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Speaker 3: I think, and we're starting.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a good thing that we're starting to

548
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Speaker 4: see these new little things pop up, even though the

549
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Speaker 4: keywis they want to play.

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Speaker 3: Us on hand ack day.

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Speaker 4: But like we've been stuck in, we've been stuck in

552
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Speaker 4: around Rugby's kind of calendar for a while now, right,

553
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Speaker 4: you know, like some change and some new things well

554
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Speaker 4: only kind of invigorate people's interests.

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Speaker 1: Here's a potential byproduct. Does it create reverse sabbaticals? We

556
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Speaker 1: get it starts to open up the opportunity, open up

557
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Speaker 1: the eyes of Northern Hemisphere based players to come out here,

558
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Speaker 1: which Jordy Barrett, who's at Leansa at the Moment said

559
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Speaker 1: recently that players up there actually their eyes light up

560
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Speaker 1: about the opportunity to come and playing in Super rugby

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Speaker 1: for instance.

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Speaker 2: Well, pathways and talent progression and depth charting becomes an

563
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Speaker 2: issue then, right, and then you start you need to

564
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Speaker 2: then in conjunction with because of this ecosystem and because

565
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Speaker 2: everything's so connected, one area as a ripple somewhere else.

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Speaker 2: So then eligibility and selection criteria for national teams because

567
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Speaker 2: if you're going to import talent, you're going to lose

568
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Speaker 2: its somewhere else. And normally you see the younger ones

569
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Speaker 2: or your established ones, because the younger ones go, well,

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Speaker 2: why am I going to stick around? Because they're just

571
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Speaker 2: bringing in the rock star from Lensto who is not

572
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Speaker 2: even Australian, not even going to play for Australia. So

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Speaker 2: I'm going overseas. If they if they're good enough to

574
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Speaker 2: play for Australia, do they then get brought back to

575
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Speaker 2: play for Australia. In this notion, they've got a sign

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Speaker 2: with the Siper Rugby club to be eligible. That needs

577
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Speaker 2: examination as well.

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Speaker 3: Then global game twenty years time.

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Speaker 4: Maybe they're sitting around in a podcast or whatever the

580
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Speaker 4: hell they're doing talking about like rugbies like soccer.

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Speaker 3: Everyone plays every.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Producer Trav is a big fan of that.

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Speaker 6: That podcast.

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Speaker 2: Movement has never been greater, right, So the game needs

586
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Speaker 2: to solve that because that is not that is only

587
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Speaker 2: going to accelerate Rugby's in an international market. Now. You

588
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Speaker 2: need to find out a way to maintain the Bungee

589
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Speaker 2: Cort attachment and still have an opportunity to develop the

590
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Speaker 2: resource and then use that resource when it's fully functional.

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Speaker 1: It's good chat, plenty of good chat. Plenty of good

592
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Speaker 1: questions coming in the sideline mailbag as well, so we

593
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Speaker 1: might open up a few of those. This is a

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Speaker 1: question from d Q. I won't read out that Twitter

595
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Speaker 1: handle because it's a lot of numbers. When is Rugby

596
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Speaker 1: AU releasing the First Nation Slash PACIFICA and OZ and

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Speaker 1: Z jerseys and the squad lists. We've seen the coaching teams.

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Speaker 1: This is me now we have seen the coaching teams

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Speaker 1: for both announced in recent days. They have released options

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Speaker 1: for a First Nations jersey which fans can vote on

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Speaker 1: and go in the chance to win an experience to

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Speaker 1: go to that First Nations Pacific game down in Melbourne.

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Speaker 1: If they select the winning jersey.

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Speaker 6: Have you looked at the jersey?

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Speaker 1: I've looked at the jerseys. I'll be perfectly honest. I'm

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Speaker 1: a bit underwhelmed by the four options. Yeah, I don't

607
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Speaker 1: think they're overly exciting. The mainly white little bit of color,

608
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Speaker 1: the color changes for the different options on the sleeve.

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Speaker 1: One of them is a bit of a Harlequin type

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Speaker 1: style with different colored square diagonally on the jersey. But

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Speaker 1: they're out there. So to say Rugby Astralia hasn't released them,

612
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: it's not true. But we haven't yet seen haven't selected

613
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Speaker 1: the jersey. That's for the first nation specific one, Peter,

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Speaker 1: we haven't seen anything.

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Speaker 2: You can still big a preference out of those four, right? Yeah?

616
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Speaker 6: And is that how they're picking the winner?

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Speaker 2: Like whoever? Because that's what we want. Do you have

618
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Speaker 2: a preference because well, I wasn't aware that you're an

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Speaker 2: international fashion designer. What I want to know? You've got one.

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Speaker 1: I'll go the Harlequins one.

621
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Speaker 3: Old school.

622
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Speaker 1: That's my choice.

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Speaker 2: Politics now my.

624
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Speaker 4: Choice answer question the lines, So the Australia and Z

625
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Speaker 4: I always want to call it the Anzac tim Horn.

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Speaker 3: You'll not let it go.

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Speaker 6: It is.

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Speaker 4: You get right attached to the Yeah, there's official approvals

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Speaker 4: and all the rest of it.

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Speaker 3: That is going to be released in mid June. Apparently.

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Speaker 4: I've been knocking on Rugby Austra's door trying to get

632
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Speaker 4: a look at it for a while and they've got it.

633
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Speaker 3: They've kind of made them up.

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Speaker 2: But there's going to want to get some from my kids.

635
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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what that And every time when are

636
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Speaker 5: they going to announce the team? That feels a team

637
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Speaker 5: of about three hundred players? Every time I open an

638
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Speaker 5: article as a new player that's put his hand up

639
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 5: to play, Sonny.

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Speaker 6: Bill is coming back. He is his playing quite Cooper.

641
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Speaker 1: Sonny Bill is going to play game four days before

642
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Speaker 1: he fights Paul Game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean James, you just said James j Connor.

644
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Speaker 2: You said James Hooper.

645
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Speaker 6: No I didn't. I mean everyone's played.

646
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Speaker 3: Around this team.

647
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Speaker 6: I mean is it players that have retired? Is it

648
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Speaker 6: players that are currently playing? Like?

649
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Speaker 2: What's that?

650
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Speaker 4: So it started out with a bit of speculation on

651
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Speaker 4: our behalf about what this team would look like. They

652
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Speaker 4: have resolved to make it for the Australian components, buying

653
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Speaker 4: large blokes who.

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Speaker 3: Are already here, so that we're pulling them out of Wallaby.

655
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Speaker 4: Squads up from Sober so it is it an Australia

656
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Speaker 4: rad by default because the Lions DoD worn an Australia game.

657
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Speaker 3: There is also Keyweed blokes, but because.

658
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Speaker 4: New Zealand are playing France at the same time and

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Speaker 4: I think the Mario or Black are playing at the

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Speaker 4: same time, so there's there is some chat about some

661
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Speaker 4: Keyweed guys coming across, but mostly they're fellas from New Zealand,

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Speaker 4: so they're working through that at the moment. The names

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Speaker 4: I've heard that they're trying to get over the line

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Speaker 4: as far as insurance is Moanga, which is highest played

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Speaker 4: player in the world, Shannon Frazelle, Sewan Stevenson, and TJ.

666
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Speaker 3: Perrenara. I think.

667
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 4: Where they this goes to that point about the squad

668
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 4: is obviously they can't name the team until Joe kind

669
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 4: of figures out who he wants for the test team

670
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 4: and who's going to release and stuff. But you're talking

671
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 4: like a week before the game, so that doesn't do

672
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 4: much as far as like trying to promote it. We're

673
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 4: trying to get a sense. So brings us right back

674
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 4: to show was it show one the bloke who should

675
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 4: have been co hosting this, Mike Hoopo.

676
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 3: We've kind of.

677
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 4: Raised that he would be a great guy to be

678
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 4: involved in this. I think that there they either have

679
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 4: approached him or they're going to approach him to do that.

680
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 4: He's just finished up in Japan. Perfect guy to put

681
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 4: on the poster, right and to go down to Adelaide.

682
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 4: Do the local radio just start. I mean, this is

683
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 4: what rug Bistre should be doing. They should be naming

684
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 4: six seven guys as you kind of your marquee stars,

685
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 4: and then fill the rest of.

686
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: These your ambassadors players.

687
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 4: So you've got your key with you guys, a couple

688
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 4: of assies like Hoops and I don't know, let's let's

689
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 4: ring up Samu and say, look at the moment, we

690
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 4: don't have you in the Wallaby squad, but we want

691
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 4: you in this team. We want you in the country

692
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 4: at the time. You mean Peter Pete, Samu or no good,

693
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 4: just someone like that.

694
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: That's a hype of thing.

695
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 5: I just want.

696
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 3: I just think that we need to be starting to

697
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 3: get the ball rolling on this.

698
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: And do you think there's there's there's there's twenty thousand

699
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: people waiting to hear a name, and so britge Ice

700
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: lines are coming to Adelaide the concept and they know

701
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 2: that it's going to be a market team. It has

702
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: to be a market team with relevant I don't think it,

703
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: but it can't hurt. So then you look at you

704
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: look at the intent of that game. Originally is to

705
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: have an opportunity for the players who are not ring

706
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 2: fenced and just out of test contention to play in

707
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 2: an Australian jersey. And then the New Zealand thing got

708
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: promoted and so then all of a sudden it was agreed.

709
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: But that's what the original intent is. There is a

710
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: developmental tool and also possibly a player retention tool as

711
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: well to INCENTIVI as a player who's maybe or maybe

712
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: not deciding to extend a contract or what is this

713
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 2: thing called Australian rugby and wallaby is? How much do

714
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: they believe in me? So when you when you start

715
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: picking players that have gone offshore are already done. It's

716
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: an invitational side, Google in the side. So we're inviting

717
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: we're inviting New Zealand guys to come.

718
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: We have to.

719
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: We have to because that's the model.

720
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: I think.

721
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 4: I think a balance needs to be found between this

722
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 4: being a development tool, and.

723
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: It's a development tool well player returns look as Rory Scott.

724
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 3: I understand, but you also I think that car.

725
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 4: It can't hurt to have a couple of marquee names

726
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 4: to help promote it to Yeah, I think you can't

727
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 4: run away from the idea that there's a festival aspect

728
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 4: to this because that's what people want to see.

729
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: The first aspect of every game.

730
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand, everyone understand.

731
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 4: We also can't We also can't wait until the twelfth

732
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 4: of July before.

733
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 3: We know what the team is.

734
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: I think that's one thing that fans and there's been

735
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: a lot of people asking, like d Q, when are

736
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: they going to name it? I think there is an

737
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: element that you touched on the pay that people don't

738
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: realize that this will likely include players that get left

739
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: out of the Wallaby squad. So he can't start making

740
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: those announcements now because then you're going.

741
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 3: On what's more use it strategically.

742
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 4: If Marika cole Bred is not going to be picked

743
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 4: in the in the Wallaby squad for whatever reason, how

744
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 4: good would it be for him for for young Wallaby's

745
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 4: wingers to spend a week with Marika?

746
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

747
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 4: Like there is a chance for them not to just

748
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 4: learn from Richie Mohanga, but learn from Michael Hooper and

749
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 4: learn from you just to spend a week in their company.

750
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 4: It doesn't have to be it doesn't have to be

751
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 4: three quarters of the team, but it certainly can't have

752
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 4: three or four blocks.

753
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: Of those names that you you mentioned that are being

754
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: worked on, like working through things like insurance. Yeah, are

755
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: we expecting those confirmation confirmations?

756
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 3: They say they're getting closer on that.

757
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know the first thing about that,

758
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 4: but you Richie and two point two million a year

759
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 4: or something crazy like that. So to ensure him just

760
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 4: for a week would not be a simple exercise, I'm sure,

761
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 4: but general, yeah, they're getting they say they're getting closer.

762
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: That on some of the names you mentioned. I know,

763
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: you goog, you were just spitballing, like talking about that

764
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: player retention model using this as something like that if

765
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: you look at someone like a Rory Scott or Luke

766
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: Rahman at the Brumbies play only three days before that

767
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: against the lines in it's.

768
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 2: Interesting under okay that position, Maybe we were narrowing in

769
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 2: on that but also incentivizing and rewarding you know, players

770
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: that have had outstanding super Over Pacivics seasons get had.

771
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: We've all we're all waxing lyrical about super Oba Pacific

772
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: this year. How good it's been, our compelling it's been,

773
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 2: the integrity of it, the intensity of it, the skill execution.

774
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: You know, those players will hopefully be rewarded with a

775
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: starting position against British ice lines for their province or

776
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: one better and au n Z to parents as well,

777
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: so that that would be lovely to see.

778
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: You know.

779
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 2: I wonder if we could start maybe examining some of

780
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: those top performers of Superbia Pacific and start fighting those

781
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: names and build. I think most people are interested in

782
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: the New Zealand component. Quite frankly, I think Australia. Australian

783
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: fans aren't too anxious about who's the Australian top player

784
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 2: that's going to be named so that I can press push,

785
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: you know, QF one down Adelaide or not. I think

786
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 2: they're most interested in that New Zealand concept because of

787
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 2: the au n Z compartment. Mister a game in britge

788
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 2: ice Line series in twos and one, there wasn't much

789
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 2: interest around who was playing and just they knew they

790
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 2: were playing in Gosford and we're getting along and not

791
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: miss out on watching a six hundred cap test team.

792
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, but there won't be anything. Yeah, but Wallaby's

793
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 4: played in that, didn't They like guys who no one.

794
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: Knew who was going to play that until they were released.

795
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 4: We've got a more ring fenced environment, so you're not

796
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 4: going to see well, it's going to be choice, so

797
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 4: you're going to be seeing in the Wallaby squad.

798
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: Well that's it. That's just to see us sit down

799
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 2: with mister Joe Smitt and say, listen, there's there's there's

800
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: more things at stake here than just you know, this

801
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,439
Speaker 2: small window of ring fencing and controlling as many people.

802
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: You do need to release some of your bench players.

803
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: You need to release something. I mean, is that a conversation?

804
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 3: Well they will, I mean they'll, yeah, they'll, they'll.

805
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 4: I think he's talked about ring fencing twenty three or

806
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 4: twenty four, and then you're going to run a squad

807
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 4: of thirty six, so there'll be you know, ten thirteen

808
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 4: guys leaving.

809
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: But do you reckon all of them are going to

810
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: play in that game? Do you think? Well?

811
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 4: The interesting part is it is the seven days before

812
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 4: the first test, the first test, so you know if

813
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 4: they want them on the samekind.

814
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 1: Of well, we are going around the circles a little

815
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: bit because it's just a debatable topic. But d Q

816
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 1: mentioned that the first nation specifica jersey's kind of already

817
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: out there. The oz and Zen jersey been coming out

818
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: June and we've said what we could say about the

819
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: squad lists.

820
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: You love the Harlequins one.

821
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's my pick. I hope that has an

822
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: influence anyone. I haven't.

823
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 2: I should I want to vote.

824
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 6: Vot you don't get to what were your Harlequines jersey?

825
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. I want to move on to

826
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: another question because considering the British and Irish lines are

827
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: coming our way, this is a fascinating question from Michael Kuzmich,

828
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: big fan of Insideline Hey Fellers. Has Sansa ever considered

829
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: doing their own version of the British and Irish Lines

830
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 1: tour lift so then we can create the Sansar Tigers.

831
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm not sold on the name personally selected from OZ

832
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: and Z, South Africa and Argentina tour would run during

833
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: Michael saying the tour would run during the spring season

834
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: or after Christmas New Year. I'm not so sure about

835
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: the timing, but just in terms of doing like a

836
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: Southern Hemisphere style British and iceh Lions team, has it

837
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: ever been discussed?

838
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: Cook It's been discussed, probably to the same extent that

839
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: World Club Challenge has been been discussed and then and

840
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 2: then I think it's just it's there's a lot obviously

841
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 2: a lot of governance structures and a lot of existing

842
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: frameworks that need to be agreed to. But I think

843
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 2: it's just been discussed. I don't think it's really been

844
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: modeled to the to the level that it would need

845
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 2: to to be able to get it off the ground conceptually,

846
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 2: from a concept to a structure to this is how

847
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: it's going to work. It'd be great, though, would I mean?

848
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 5: And I know I'm on a rugby show, but today's

849
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 5: state of origin in rugby league. Every single rugby league

850
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 5: fan is invested in tonight's game when.

851
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 6: Australia play, Well, that's because they're a fan. Yeah, yeah,

852
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 6: they're right.

853
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 5: But when Australia played New Zealand, Southern fans there might

854
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 5: be some interest, but there's they're not They're not invested

855
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 5: and that's what makes that of origin so especially you've

856
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 5: got the best players in the world coming together to

857
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 5: have the game their life in a night.

858
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 2: If you had the British rs in Western Australian Victoria,

859
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 2: they don't really.

860
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 6: Well they'll pick a side.

861
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: Queensland, but yeah, but this could be this could be it.

862
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 5: Like you think about that, like every single rugby rugby

863
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 5: fan on the planet have a vested interest in a

864
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 5: team that's playing on that night, and it could it

865
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 5: could blow the roof off the biggest thing rugby's ever done.

866
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 5: But they've got to get it through the conceptual phase

867
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 5: and all the argument. The snouts in the troughh that

868
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 5: have got to back away and to let it happen.

869
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 4: Well, knowing our mates over the ditch, like they'd never

870
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 4: say yes to it, but like would they tour, would

871
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 4: they play in France? And like it would be on

872
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 4: a twelve year cycle or there?

873
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 3: I mean, they're all the questions.

874
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 2: The British ice lines concept is an amazing concept. It's

875
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: an intoxicating example of how the world of rugby can

876
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 2: come together for a short amount of time and put

877
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 2: aside international rivalry. But the most compelling argument for the

878
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: British and irice lines existence is the commerciality of it. Yea,

879
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: austral And Rugby is going to survive on the back

880
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: of the British and ice lines to a dounceouth. Now,

881
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 2: if the Southern Hemisphere can put a model together that

882
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: of course represents the best of the best, and we

883
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 2: know that we'll win probably more times than we'll lose

884
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: when we put that team together. That is going to

885
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: be an amazing group of people and athletes. It's the

886
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: commercial discussion because we know that commerciality will make you

887
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: move things and timings of competition and welcome challenge. How

888
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: much is going to pass and World Cup? You guys

889
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 2: are going to have less tests this year because it's

890
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: a World Cup year, No problem. It's worth this much money.

891
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: That's that's the answer.

892
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 3: It takes a huge pile of money.

893
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, we know the pile kind of because British ice

894
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 2: Lines is the pile. So we've actually got the model,

895
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 2: we've got the numbers, we just need people to go.

896
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: Here's my pen I reckon if you put it on

897
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: during the spring tour, as in instead of all those

898
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: individual nations going, you find a window that point and

899
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: then and you don't just play the four home nations.

900
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: You include France in it.

901
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 3: What about this one shot one kill the Lions and

902
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 3: the Tigers. I don't want to call.

903
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 4: Its versus the the anzacsafas.

904
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 3: A week after the World Cup.

905
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 4: Final every four years, they if money makes a world

906
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 4: go round, pay every single person to be fair.

907
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: The semi finals of the World Cup are usually the

908
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: Southern Hemisphere teams anyway.

909
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 3: But at least there's like it finishes, you might you

910
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: might find a.

911
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 2: Solution. It needs to be, which is why the World

912
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: Cup Challenge. It needs to have literally in just a

913
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: one v two shootout, and then is really going to

914
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: pay enough money to make that worthwhile and have longevity.

915
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: Those lines have survived because of the emotion and the

916
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: history and the you know, it's been tied into all

917
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 2: sorts of different themes and then now it's got this

918
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: thing in the world of professionalism, commerciality and sustainability so

919
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: important to marry.

920
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: That and am I and am I going to be

921
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 3: the one to point out that how many players will

922
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 3: we get in.

923
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: The team some years smaller than in the line squad.

924
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll always get a.

925
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 6: Couple might be us in the short term.

926
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 2: But you know, as time games, that'd be huge too, right.

927
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 2: How do you set up selection critia? How do you

928
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 2: set up set up the panel who's got the final say?

929
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 6: I just love the thought of it, I really do.

930
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 5: I just I couldn't imagine, like like anyone not being

931
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 5: so invested in that. And when you've got the punters

932
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 5: invested that they're the ones that bring the dollars to

933
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 5: the table, you know, then all of a sudden the

934
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 5: sponsors come on board, you know, the the excitement for

935
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 5: the game. I just think it could be rugby unions

936
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 5: to compete with other things that they're competing.

937
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: I actually think this is a better idea than the

938
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:04,959
Speaker 1: World Club.

939
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: It would be the longest undefeated group of athletes team,

940
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: do you think. I don't think they'd ever maybe not go,

941
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 2: but I don't reckon they'd lose this series until again.

942
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,439
Speaker 5: But that's the intrigue about it, right, that's hard to believe.

943
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 5: How do we know, let's see it and then you

944
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 5: see it and I've got this Southern hemon.

945
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 2: Just don't start this argument because when these arguments get their.

946
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 6: Time, the Northern hemisphere then go. We can't have these things.

947
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 2: Just made it to be.

948
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 5: Amazing, and that was how State of Origin started New

949
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 5: South Wales Queens and got sick of kicking their ast.

950
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 2: No, but it's not to play against the British ice lines.

951
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: Let's get this right. Yeah, you're going on tours and

952
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 2: you're handing it to the others. Or maybe the individual

953
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: unions up there are strong enough.

954
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 3: What's intriguing the.

955
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 4: Debate From a place perspective, you listen to James all

956
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 4: Will talk about how his eyes were opened about how

957
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 4: much playing for the Lions meant to the guys he

958
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 4: was playing with, like it was like playing for your country,

959
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 4: being selected for the Lions and being a test line,

960
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 4: and like being a test line was top of the tree.

961
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 4: So be really interesting from apecive from a place perspective

962
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 4: about that was which being able to represence, which.

963
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: Also ties into possibly play retention right, because that could

964
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 2: be a selection policy thing where you have to be

965
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: playing for the country in the country at the time

966
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 2: you can't pick.

967
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 3: You know, we've solved a lot of problems.

968
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: That could be a thing. I'm going to stick around

969
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: because I want to play.

970
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 6: For the positive. The profit here has become luck excited, I.

971
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: Reckon it's your infectious attitude. You are the greatest supporter

972
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,479
Speaker 1: of any idea, great idea.

973
00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 6: Let's go, let's make it happen. Yeah, something says money on.

974
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: The tape very quickly. I'm putting you on the spot here.

975
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: But of the current Wallabies for this compont side was

976
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: picked right now, of the cur who would would make the.

977
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: Team know where you live?

978
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 5: Fraser Fraser right, yea Yepeus, I can see Tom Line

979
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 5: are playing in it at some point.

980
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: I love Tom n You can't do that.

981
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 3: Let it out right now?

982
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah right yeah then maybe.

983
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, picked Bobby Bobby, Bobby, Yeah, Angus Bell Yeah.

984
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 3: Eventually essentially there's five or six.

985
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, big squad, good chat, big squad. We can continue

986
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: this over a beer, I reckon. That's the insideline for

987
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: this week. Thanks gentlemen.

988
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 6: I love it.