S1: From the newsrooms of the Sydney Morning Herald and The Age.
S1: This is inside politics. I'm Jacqueline Maley, it's Friday, the
S1: 2nd of May. Today we bring you a special episode
S1: recorded in the south west Victorian electorate of Wannon. The
S1: seat encompasses tourist towns from Lorne along the Great Ocean
S1: Road to Warrnambool and all the way to the South
S1: Australian border. And who better to tell the evolving story
S1: of Wannon than our associate editor and special writer, Tony Risch?
S1: He was born in Heywood, grew up on sheep and
S1: cattle properties in the Western District, went to school in Hamilton,
S1: started his career in small newspapers in Portland, Warrnambool and Camperdown,
S1: and still has a house near Portland. Our audio producer
S1: Julia Katzel joins Tony on the road.
S2: As part of their marginal seats across the country fight
S2: for every last vote.
S3: So where are we headed right now, Tony?
S4: We're headed from Cavendish, towards the outskirts of Hamilton, where
S4: Mark Wooten and his wife Eve Kantor have a very
S4: huge grazing operation, and they have decided to support Alex
S4: Dyson and they have become the second biggest donors to
S4: his campaign. I believe they've put $100,000 in, which for
S4: a lot of neighbors is quite a shock that a
S4: big grazier of the Hamilton area would not be supporting
S4: Dan Tehan, but instead would be supporting somebody like Alex Dyson.
S4: It looks, if you were to believe polls, that Alex
S4: Dyson has pulled ahead. The last YouGov poll had Alex
S4: Dyson just slightly ahead of the sitting member, Dan Tehan. So, um,
S4: that's in itself an extraordinary figure, I suppose.
S5: Are you struggling with childcare? You are not alone, because
S5: in south west Victoria and a lot of regional communities
S5: around Australia, We are in a childcare desert because Australia.
S6: South west Victoria have made their voices clear. They don't
S6: want Labor's offshore wind farm zone forced upon them. Our
S6: local communities in Warrnambool and Port Fairy treasure their coastline.
S4: From here came Alex Dyson with a very powerful campaign. Well,
S4: well supported with money, probably $1 million. He got about
S4: a thousand volunteers to knock on doors. He set up
S4: offices right around the electorate. If at this election, the
S4: liberals lose this seat, particularly to a young independent who
S4: they've tried to suggest is a bit of a fool,
S4: it'll be a huge loss for the Liberal Party because
S4: it's their their duel in the rural crown, really, certainly
S4: in Victoria. The National Party has a lot of seats
S4: in in the bush. But the Liberal Party's got this
S4: one and it is an enormous one.
S7: Hi. Hi, Tony. Yes, Mark. Mark. Julia. Well, this is
S7: very pleasant, and we've got a little bit of rain.
S7: We've been here nearly 29 years, and I think this
S7: is the toughest election. Yeah. Even through the drought. I
S7: can't really remember.
S4: You'd be the second biggest funder of Alex, wouldn't you?
S7: I think we would be, yeah. Other than climate.
S4: Climate 200 is first. Could I ask why you've, um,
S4: decided on Alex? Over. Dan?
S8: Well, he came to visit us, and we found because
S8: we're fairly open minded. Um, and we found him to
S8: be incredibly genuine. Not a roaring radical, All open minded,
S8: seem to be keen on listening to people's needs and
S8: that just appealed to us.
S4: You're a niece of Rupert Murdoch, right? How is your mother?
S8: He's my. He was my my mum's elder brother.
S7: Right.
S4: How do you reckon Rupert would go with the idea
S4: that you're going for a what one might call a
S4: teal independent against the Liberal Party in western Victoria?
S8: That would be a misunderstanding, because it wouldn't be that
S8: we're going for a teal independent. But, um, I don't
S8: think that he'd be that interested either way.
S7: But the other the other reason is and that's where
S7: I did separate some I think the Nats, um, in
S7: Victoria do listen to their constituents. I don't think the
S7: Liberal Party in Victoria do. And I think that's been reflected.
S7: It's been a very urban based, um, decision making body.
S7: And that's one of the frustrations that I think a
S7: lot of rural people have and why India's been so successful. Mhm.
S7: And because people want a genuine voice that represents what
S7: is a different voice than, than the rest of those parties.
S7: And that's where I think Alex Dyson's a really interesting
S7: one because he, he is, he's born and bred in
S7: Warrnambool and he does understand, you know, the issues here ironically.
S7: You know people say he's not there. Well Dan was
S7: team was helicoptered and dropped in here. You know he's
S7: an absolute Liberal Party machine man. So there's there's no question.
S7: And I'm not suggesting Dan couldn't have been, um, sympathetic
S7: to understanding that the electorate as well. So I'm not
S7: pigheaded about that. But I think that is one of
S7: the differences is I think the Liberal Party really has
S7: disengaged with its rural base, putting aside the anti Liberal Party,
S7: pro liberal party, whatever. Your view is just to be
S7: self-serving as an electorate. I think people are going, we
S7: want to be noticed and we want to be able
S7: to have some a bit of a bigger slice of
S7: that pie than what we've been in the past. And
S7: we have neighbors here who have dad teen signs up
S7: opposite our Alex Dyson signs. But it's quite good banter,
S7: you know, there's nothing we're not ripping down. But the
S7: election will finish. No matter what ever happens. We will
S7: sit down with them and we'll go to the pub
S7: when we see them, and we'll talk about whatever we
S7: talk about.
S4: That's your neighbors. Of course. Others have come and taken
S4: your sign.
S7: Well, we've lost four of our signs. And for everyone
S7: they've taken, we've put two more up. So we now
S7: have where we had, they would have had to put
S7: up with four, but now they have to put up
S7: with eight.
S3: Okay, so we've just wrapped up our interview with Mark
S3: Wootton and Eve Cantor. And was there anything you took
S3: away from from what they said to us or told
S3: us about the campaign?
S4: I think probably the most interesting thing was that they
S4: said that Alex Dyson came and knocked on their door
S4: and talked to them at great length, and admitted that
S4: he knew nothing about agriculture at that point. And then
S4: he came back and back and and learnt quite a lot. Um,
S4: they're environmental farmers, if you like. Um, and so that
S4: melds pretty well with somebody who's being supported very heavily
S4: by climate 200. Where we are is very much a
S4: grain growing area. It's it's flat and broad, um, and
S4: easily tilled. And it grows a lot of grain. You
S4: see silos everywhere south of here and further west, it's
S4: more considered grazing land. Um, grazing of of sheep for wool. Very,
S4: very rich wool growing area. Grazing of cattle. And then
S4: to the east. If you go almost to Geelong, there
S4: is Colac, which has got a number of industries in it.
S4: And then you go down to Lorne. The far east
S4: of this vast electorate, which is a very rich tourism
S4: area by the sea. And it's really the start of
S4: the Great Ocean Road, which winds its way around the
S4: southern edges of the electorate, or western Victoria, if you like,
S4: all the way after you continue through Warrnambool and Port
S4: Fairy and Portland, all the way to the South Australian
S4: border and then up to the Grampians. So it's a
S4: vast and very diverse place. I find it very beautiful.
S3: And we're about to drive to David Robertson's place. He's
S3: also a farmer and he's a Liberal supporter. Can you
S3: tell us more about him?
S4: Yeah. David has been a property owner near Hamilton, out
S4: of Coleraine for a long time, and has built a
S4: very big operation out there. He's now retired and his
S4: son has taken over. He's also been for several years
S4: the mayor of the Southern Grampians Shire, which covers that
S4: sort of area that traditionally has been liberal grazing territory,
S4: I suppose you might say.
S3: And I believe he worked under Malcolm Fraser at one point,
S3: didn't he?
S4: He was a jackaroo on, uh, on Noreen, which was
S4: the Fraser property when he was very young. A long
S4: time ago. He never worked for him as a political
S4: adviser or otherwise. He was just a jackaroo on the
S4: property and then went on and built his own properties.
S4: And he. He's already told me that he is supporting
S4: Dan Tehan, but we'll find out whether he believes that
S4: Dan Tehan can win, or whether things have changed to
S4: the point where it could change to Alex Dyson. What
S4: years were you mayor?
S9: Oh, last year and the year before? It's not my scene,
S9: but going for four years to Canberra and four years
S9: down to Melbourne to talk to these politicians. I have
S9: some understanding of of how the system works. And so
S9: now comes this election. I fully understand the garbage that's
S9: coming out of Dyson's mouth. He's never promised anything, but
S9: he said, I'll fix the roads. Typical teal as teals do.
S9: They pick out popular subjects, which they did in Frydenberg
S9: and all these other ones roads, childcare and housing shortage.
S9: They're all state issues.
S4: Dan would be able to do it well.
S9: Dan has achieved a lot of things over the time.
S9: He's had what, three senior portfolios trade, education, anti immigration
S9: and um but still he's there. He's respected by both
S9: sides of the fence. The only trouble is Dyson doesn't
S9: live here. He might have been born here. He flies
S9: back for elections. He's we've never seen him here before
S9: except for this election. So he the last election? Oh, yeah.
S9: For a week or two. Yeah. This. This. But he's
S9: been here for six, eight months now and spent $1 million,
S9: you know. So. But he doesn't he's not like Dan Graphics.
S9: Well yeah I'm not sure what the demographics have changed,
S9: but the younger group here, they've never seen a bad time.
S9: It's been pretty good this whole 25 years of this
S9: early century.
S4: You reckon that Alex Tyson's going to win?
S9: Yep.
S4: What will happen then to woman in your view?
S9: Oh, look, there's I wrote a letter to the editor
S9: there a while ago. There's two things about this election.
S9: One is I think the most important thing is that
S9: we have a strong government with strong leadership. And I
S9: think the more independence we have, the less likely we're
S9: going to have of strong leadership and a strong government.
S9: They're always going to be. The second thing is, I think,
S9: is my backyard. So everybody's got a personal interest here. Oh,
S9: we need our roads better. Have you driven the roads
S9: on the rest of Australia? No, but my roads are
S9: the worst. They are, you know. So we need childcare,
S9: we need more housing. We need better roads. We want this,
S9: this and this. And so you come down to your
S9: personal issues down here. And I think that, yes, we
S9: will be in the political wilderness to some degree. And
S9: I think if Dyson gets in, yes, we won't have. Well,
S9: he'll never be in government. So we'll never have a
S9: senior minister or prime minister or speaker of the House
S9: or what we've had in the past. Someone who's there
S9: can say, hey, I'm the member down there, I want
S9: this and is right there beside the treasurer, or he's
S9: in opposition talking to them about the problem. This person's
S9: over here in the Crossbenches one one lone voice.
S3: Okay, Tony, we've just wrapped up with David. Any takeaways
S3: from that interview?
S4: The biggest takeaway I had was that he supports Dan Tehan,
S4: but he's gone off to a betting shop and has
S4: put money on Alex Dyson because he says there's no
S4: doubt in his mind that he's going to win this election. Well, um,
S4: when you've got a, I suppose, a lifetime Liberal supporter
S4: who supports Dan Tehan, who's going off to put money
S4: on the challenger. Um, there's trouble ahead for Dan Tehan,
S4: I think this weekend.
S3: I believe he said he wanted something to celebrate on Saturday.
S4: That's right. He did? It was a bit tongue in cheek,
S4: of course.
S3: Our last stop on this little campaign bus of ours,
S3: with you as the tour guide, is the races.
S4: It's a big event in Warrnambool, and. And it's a
S4: big event for the entire Western District. It's the the
S4: Grand National meeting. It goes over several days and thousands
S4: of people come from all over the place. It's a very,
S4: very old race meeting. It goes right back to 1847.
S4: They still have the longest steeplechase race over 33 jumps
S4: in the in the nation.
S10: But I think it's is probably the end of the night.
S4: The Warrnambool races. The May meeting is a very big
S4: one and it says this is purely Western district.
S3: So, Tony, I know you said you weren't going to
S3: make any predictions for this Saturday, but if this electorate
S3: does change hands for the first time in over 70 years,
S3: what does that say about the people here and what
S3: they want and the region more broadly?
S4: Well, I think what's happened is there's been a demographic change. Obviously,
S4: young people are more drawn to change, if you like, though,
S4: you know, you've just mentioned 70 years. Nobody can really
S4: remember those 70 years except somebody like me who has
S4: been alive for a lot of them. There's that sort
S4: of feeling that they want something different? Um, there are
S4: those also who feel that the Liberal Party got too
S4: comfortable in Woden and didn't, uh, go out of its
S4: way to do the sort of things that are done
S4: in marginal seats, like the one right next door, Corangamite,
S4: which has got a $600 million duplication of a road.
S4: But I think also there is there is something above that,
S4: if you like, and that is this campaign in general.
S4: Peter Dutton hasn't been able to cut through. Um, it
S4: would appear people are more keen to hang on to
S4: what they've got or change to something they understand. There is,
S4: without doubt down here, a very big groundswell of support
S4: for change. I mean, you only have to go into
S4: the pub as we did last night. Everyone we spoke
S4: to and a lot of them were my my old
S4: friends who have never imagined supporting an independent previously, just
S4: said as one. Alex Dyson will win this election. Well,
S4: I don't know whether they're right.
S3: Well, I guess we'll have to wait and see what
S3: happens this weekend.
S4: Exactly.
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