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Speaker 1: Holly team and welcome into your finals edition of Between

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Speaker 1: two Posts. It was a good weekend if you're a

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Speaker 1: Brumbies fan, you know what, it was a good weekend.

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Speaker 1: If you're an Aussie rugby fan. Be course, we've got

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Speaker 1: one team still tracking in their hope for a title,

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Speaker 1: their first since twenty twenty twenty twenty four, two thousand

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Speaker 1: and four. Morgantinually James Hall, has it really been that long?

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Speaker 1: Twenty years? Longer twenty one years into Brumbies one?

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Speaker 2: I think so?

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Speaker 3: Look yeah, look, I mean they've been in a number

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Speaker 3: of finals since then, but they did everything they could

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Speaker 3: on Saturday night to get the job done, be alive

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Speaker 3: for another week. So yeah, really good performance from the bus.

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Speaker 4: Tough to win. Kevy aren't there? You know? Like are

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Speaker 4: there and there and thereabouts?

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Speaker 5: Every year the Brumbies, every year we think are hick

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Speaker 5: on the Reds or the TARSI going to move up?

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Speaker 5: They're still the standard bear in Australian rugby.

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Speaker 1: I did the odds with Morgs before the match closed

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Speaker 1: out between the Blues and Chiefs the other night, So

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Speaker 1: we just use bookis odds to try and calculate the

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Speaker 1: likelihood of having the Brumbies host the Blues in the

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Speaker 1: the final, right, so we needed the obviously need the

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Speaker 1: Blues to win. The other night you need the Brumbies

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Speaker 1: to win, and then this week we obviously need Brumbies

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Speaker 1: and Blues to both win as well. Ninety to one.

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Speaker 1: It was, so the first two legs are ticked off,

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Speaker 1: two to go this weekend. Fellas before we preview, what's

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Speaker 1: the come, Let's sink our teeth into that cold Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, that cold canbra night where it was three

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Speaker 1: degrees that kickoff felt like about minus two down.

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Speaker 4: They see what was out?

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Speaker 5: The gloves were out Panel Atkinson, Ferguson Shepherd two of

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Speaker 5: the three war gloves.

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Speaker 4: Who do you think you had the gloves on?

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Speaker 2: Atkinson Shepherd?

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Speaker 4: Yeap are soft ass?

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Speaker 5: No wonder that was so bad at Phinishy this year.

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Speaker 5: No resilience those two.

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Speaker 1: I've got to give the game some context. So the

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Speaker 1: way it was shaping up was it was going to

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Speaker 1: be rubber between the Brumbies and the Hurricanes. What all

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Speaker 1: of us desperadoes wanted was to have something on the

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Speaker 1: line in the game. We wanted some feelings and vibe.

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Speaker 1: So that meant that the Blues need to beat the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: So closing stages of that game sideline, the Hurricanes are

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Speaker 1: lined up around Morgues and the rest of the crew.

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Speaker 1: Morgs here it is as you're watching the final try

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Speaker 1: getting out with Pete among A Jensen and is this

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Speaker 1: when so two to two was held up? What's this?

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Speaker 5: This when like so this is like management from Hurricanes

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Speaker 5: going what's happening?

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Speaker 4: What's what is that? Is that? Is that crawling? Is

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Speaker 4: that they happened on the advantage. It's still on.

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Speaker 5: They're going to come back and Peter among A Jensen there,

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Speaker 5: you saw it as soon as that tries scored and

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Speaker 5: given he's better go warm up, this game means a

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Speaker 5: little bit more.

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Speaker 1: We lose them, they're on our way to mad Monday. Okay, fellas,

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Speaker 1: So I mean this match was such a good game

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Speaker 1: of finals, given they were low scoring the two games

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Speaker 1: that preceded it, and they've just come out throwing haymakers

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Speaker 1: at each other. Rub And loves the first man to

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Speaker 1: go in, and you're watching you think this Canes back

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Speaker 1: line is immaculate and Kevy they were so good with

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Speaker 1: his first dry.

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Speaker 3: Oh, their ability to move the ball and they're off

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Speaker 3: floating through the tackle is just impressive. And I think

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Speaker 3: they have, you know, the last back half of this

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Speaker 3: Super Rugby season, I think they've been probably the form

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Speaker 3: team and you know, you didn't want to play them

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Speaker 3: become finals, but the Brumbies the whole type five. I

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Speaker 3: think for the Brumbies this game really stood up, particularly

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Speaker 3: on I think in that first half it was sort

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Speaker 3: of a bit of ying and yang, whereas the Hurricanes

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Speaker 3: were using the balls, spreading it wide and the Brumbies

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Speaker 3: just went back to their you know, their core game,

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Speaker 3: the mall, the scrum, tight forwards, carrying the ball hard

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Speaker 3: and it was all square after sort of twenty two

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Speaker 5: But if you're the Hurricanes today Monday and you're reviewing it, well,

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Speaker 5: you know, if you're the coaching staff, if you're want status,

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Speaker 5: you know, but you have to that's your job, right.

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Speaker 5: Clark's in there, is in the game because if you're

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Speaker 5: a head coach in superb you are a statist. He

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Speaker 5: can't be disappointed with the way his team played.

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Speaker 4: Do they played well?

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Speaker 5: They played the best version of themselves tactically smart got

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Speaker 5: to the edges on the Brumbies when the Brummies were

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Speaker 5: trying to come up and close. You know they'll be

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Speaker 5: disappointed they couldn't hold maybe one moll out. They win

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Speaker 5: the game like a couple of tiny things. But it's

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Speaker 5: one of the best losing performances in an elimination final

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Speaker 5: life scene.

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Speaker 1: They were excellent, so so good the Canes. So too

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Speaker 1: was Alan Abletowa, who scored his eighth try the season,

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Speaker 1: and we had to bring up the stats stack again

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Speaker 1: after he went over man because when you reveal it,

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Speaker 1: you will see that his previous ten years of Super Robi,

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Speaker 1: he had only scored four tries total. This year he

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Speaker 1: has gone through the roof Cavy wild stuff.

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Speaker 2: Meters gain for those tries a question total he's been.

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Speaker 3: He's in good for I think you know he's critical

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Speaker 3: for the Wallaby success this year. He's been that good

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Speaker 3: and that important for this run beside, but looking forward,

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Speaker 3: we need him on the park and hurt when he

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Speaker 3: wasn't there.

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Speaker 5: You know, we always try and look for the why

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Speaker 5: and that how why is that?

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Speaker 4: Why had he never scored more? But why now is

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Speaker 4: he s called double?

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Speaker 5: A decade worth of tries like we've seen, how good

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Speaker 5: he is close to the line.

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Speaker 4: But it's not like he just learned it.

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Speaker 3: No, do we think that there's more a big man

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Speaker 3: let's goal kicking from penalties, so there's more opportunities that

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Speaker 3: you're in the twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe so teams, but he's finish.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but no one has.

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Speaker 3: Spending more time. So you's seeing more forwards scoring tries

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Speaker 3: because teams are spending more time in the opposition.

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Speaker 4: So the only real change is the dropout law.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's there, like you know before, if you

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Speaker 1: got held up, you just came back.

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Speaker 5: He had a five moved to strom. Now it's a

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Speaker 5: massive turnover. Maybe there's much more emphasis on how low

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Speaker 5: that body. He seems to be pretty much the best

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Speaker 5: in the comp almost getting lower than defense.

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Speaker 3: Like and like the defensive onne where you've got to

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Speaker 3: stay behind that last minute like that makes it really

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Speaker 4: Pretty much impossible to legally defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it is.

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Speaker 3: I mean you've got to bend it and if you

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Speaker 3: miss it by millisecond, Gonza, it's impossible to stop.

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Speaker 1: So he gets about to fourteen fourteen, and then right

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Speaker 1: on halftime the Brummy's get a chance to take three

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Speaker 1: and take the lead at the break, they choose not

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Speaker 1: to and it was so amusing to see the reaction

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Speaker 1: of coach Stephen Larkins. A little flick over the top

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Speaker 1: from Lonigan just missed the chasing Tommy Wright. So Steve

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Speaker 1: Larkins in the box, we can't really shot to him

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Speaker 1: and the arms across and he looks real pensive and

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Speaker 1: Good says, no, he's on board with this? I said,

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Speaker 1: is he? Is? He good? He doesn't look like he's key.

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Speaker 1: But then they construct again fellas this rolling moll. What

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Speaker 1: are they doing well with this rolling more to give

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Speaker 1: themselves a halftime lead.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think the core game for the Brumbies, for

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Speaker 3: almost as long as I can remember, has been with

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Speaker 3: Stephen Largan as a coach, has been around belt, around

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Speaker 3: the mall. So I think the ability to get the

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Speaker 3: mare set is the key to morning. If you get

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Speaker 3: that front guard set, the depth and get the ball

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Speaker 3: along which you see here Billy Poll, it makes it

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Speaker 3: really hard to defend. And then you see the backs

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Speaker 3: coming in and adding the X ray. But it all

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Speaker 3: starts with the guys up front, where Billy Poyd does

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Speaker 3: well to finish it there on the left hand side

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Speaker 3: that should go to the guys. I think's Nick Frisce

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Speaker 3: Slipper all to that front core piece of you more.

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Speaker 3: If you can get that right with no dis option

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Speaker 3: where it makes it very hard to defend legally, and

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Speaker 3: that's what they did, and they get the ball long,

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Speaker 3: then you can't have the swimmers through on the ball.

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Speaker 3: It becomes that edging edging, edging, and then the Canes

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Speaker 3: got to put players in. Billy Pollard picks the gap,

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Speaker 3: picks on the nine.

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Speaker 1: Good footing gives him a twenty one to fourteen lead.

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Speaker 1: And then Morg's early into the second half, early ish

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Speaker 1: in the second half, after turning away the Hurricanes and

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Speaker 1: dodging one with duple c Kerith his hands tragically for

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Speaker 1: the Canes going missing on him.

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Speaker 2: I've never seen these.

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Speaker 1: Such a crazy is a good play. We'll talking about

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Speaker 1: him in the post game soon as well. But then

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Speaker 1: a little bit of magic from the Brumbys sets up

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Speaker 1: a handy lead.

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Speaker 5: It's the world's easiest Mackram. It is the Champagne Rugby

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Speaker 5: Union moment of the week. It's a two phase play

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Speaker 5: and as much as Stephen Larkham tries to facetiously deny it.

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Speaker 5: It's one hundred percent plan. It's even the switch here.

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Speaker 5: Everyone's thinking Valentine needs to carry and that's the change up,

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Speaker 5: changes the point of contact and Robbie's he's in his

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Speaker 5: slot to Alima gainst their late as his role.

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Speaker 4: Noel runs the one at the back and then just

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Speaker 4: through the middle.

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Speaker 5: It's absolutely perfectly replicated what they would have done a

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Speaker 5: Norton cross as Kevy on the training Paddy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, and I think you can see. I think

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Speaker 3: there was one earlier in the Crusaders.

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Speaker 4: Twice one week one a few weeks.

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Speaker 3: Against against the Hurricanes, and it's probably just it's the

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Speaker 3: slight of hand of that inside runner taking the attention

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Speaker 3: of who is it the number five there, I think

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Speaker 3: for the Canes, and just the late run where right

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Speaker 3: comes in late, you know in division. Late is just

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Speaker 3: such a great piece of work. And the ball from

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Speaker 3: Bobby Valentini is nice, just a little one.

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Speaker 4: Handed inside, just the way they use Valentine.

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Speaker 5: So if you're opposite Valentini, your third defender, So it's

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Speaker 5: a three man forward shape that we see Valentini square.

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Speaker 5: He's got the tip option on the outside, he's got

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Speaker 5: inside support if he needs it usually just to clean

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Speaker 5: out and obviously the poll parts out the back to

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Speaker 5: Noel a laser which we see fifty times a game.

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Speaker 5: Rob Valentini carries every single time. The genius is in

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Speaker 5: the change. You show the same picture and you just

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Speaker 5: show a slightly different variation. Crusades have done it, Island's

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Speaker 5: done it. We've seen teams do it. But but the

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Speaker 5: fact that it's Valentini is such great deception because if

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Speaker 5: I'm opposite him and third, all I'm thinking about is

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Speaker 5: blinkers on. I've got to tackle this guy. If I'm

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Speaker 5: the tip guy, I've got to tackle Pollard as a

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Speaker 5: tip I'm just vision square. We've got a good defensive line.

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Speaker 5: We've all done our job, and suddenly the picture changes

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Speaker 5: and it is an untouched try.

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Speaker 3: It used to be something you do always on the outside.

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Speaker 1: So it's do you know what I felt for? In

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Speaker 5: It's got one, Alan got one and Pollo got too. Yes,

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Speaker 4: We've got to keep going. Do you feel that in games?

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Speaker 3: I think you have to, but you're always got to

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Speaker 3: i'd rather kick it to touch because there's a chance

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Speaker 3: he's going to miss this.

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Speaker 2: They're gimmes.

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Speaker 3: So I think building points and momentums are big thing

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Speaker 3: I think when we'll talk about the Chiefs game, I

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Speaker 3: think they probably kicked too much for gold. They probably

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Speaker 5: They go for penalty goal those two times they lose

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Speaker 5: the bun.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, it's not that simple, but you know.

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Speaker 1: And as you say, the Carrians were playing such good

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Speaker 1: The Canes bounce out. I wanted to touch on the

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Speaker 1: where good justin Harrison interviews doeople see careefy, how good

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Speaker 1: that little exchange was, How great that little bit of

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Speaker 1: insight was that they both shared. It's a shame that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Look, I mean Griffy himself is what

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Speaker 3: it shows you what it means to play in this

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Speaker 3: heads high for that performance. It was sort of tough

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Speaker 1: We're going through anyway.

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Speaker 3: We're going through anyway, so it doesn't matter about the performance.

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Speaker 3: We get another crack next week.

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Speaker 5: They could have won the comp probably maybe scrum deep

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Speaker 5: in but back line, back road, the line out pressure.

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Speaker 5: I put the Brumbies under the brand of rugby. They

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Speaker 5: Later on the next couple of weeks they kept going

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Speaker 3: We wonder how much those injuries early on in the

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Speaker 3: the comp that got them to where they were. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they dropped some games early on that they probably when

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Speaker 3: you look at they probably should not have if they

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Speaker 3: picked them up. They're sitting you know, third, second home

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Speaker 3: game and game in Wellington, second crack at it probably

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Speaker 3: if they lost top.

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Speaker 4: Two is important?

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Speaker 1: Well, when are we going to? When do you want

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Speaker 1: to talk? Should we talk about it now? In this segment?

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Speaker 1: Is this where it sits best? So we want to

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Speaker 1: get to it after Chiefs Blues. Let's go now, shall we?

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Speaker 1: You're cool? Okay? There's been some constant The right term

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Speaker 1: you cop andel you still get to host the semi

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Speaker 1: final the next week. Why did I'm just trying to

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Speaker 1: why this wasn't highlight early because it doesn't for me

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Speaker 1: do you see it? Are you okay with it?

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Speaker 2: Keevy? I'm okay.

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Speaker 3: The in the consens of where we are now, I

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Speaker 3: and two get a week off. Okay, three plays six

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Speaker 1: They then go to it and then one would play

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Speaker 3: Rank gotcha, and then basically always at home and they win.

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Speaker 3: That you've got one less game to got to one

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Speaker 2: To the final.

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Speaker 1: So I think, yes, okay, that's your compromise. Where do

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Speaker 5: Well, I think I think one the big point you

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Speaker 5: make is everyone knew the rule exactly start. Everyone has

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Speaker 2: They might have gone to South Africa and one over.

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Speaker 4: There they beat the lines over there, first place lines.

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Speaker 1: I think the Lines might have been first anyway.

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Speaker 5: Anyway, So one it's it's like, it's not something you

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Speaker 5: think is going to happen, and then the defending champions sneak.

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Speaker 4: In the sixth.

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Speaker 5: But I reckon it will put it this way, it

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Speaker 5: won't be there next year. I couldn't imagine it'll be changed.

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Speaker 1: Why did none of the clubs push back on it initially?

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Speaker 1: So you actually think it's a fair run.

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Speaker 4: So I don't think many analyze them much.

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Speaker 3: Won't think about it though for exams, we not know.

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Speaker 3: You're right if you're saying the weight it was. So

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Speaker 3: if the Canes won against the Brumbies away, yes, they

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Speaker 3: finished fourth. So how many points behind the Chiefs were they?

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Speaker 3: I think two three games in the season they lost,

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Speaker 3: maybe less, A long way behind. They then would have

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Speaker 3: hosted a final. No, they wouldn't have, No, because no

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Speaker 3: Chiefs still host. No, they would have they would have.

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Speaker 3: If you're saying that in the way we want it

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Speaker 1: You can't lose week You can't lose Week one and

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Speaker 1: host you want to.

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Speaker 5: You can't have double like an extra chance and keep

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Speaker 3: To keep you want to keep pushing for the team

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Speaker 3: to finish top two, because otherwise later in the season

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Speaker 3: you can pull the brakes off. Doesn't matter as long

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Speaker 3: as we finished top four West sweet man.

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Speaker 4: If you finish top two, you get a second chance.

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Speaker 4: You can lose.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 4: Hurricanes lost, They're out.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 4: That's the difference.

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Speaker 1: You should never get the host if you lose. I

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Speaker 1: don't reckon, I don't reckon.

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Speaker 2: But neutral venues?

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Speaker 1: Where what's that?

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Speaker 4: Lord?

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Speaker 2: How island? Is that?

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Speaker 1: What? He goes? That? In between here and over there?

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Speaker 1: Where else? Is here? Between here?

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Speaker 5: And call the mythical TASMANI and afl Stane that won't.

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Speaker 4: Be built the.

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Speaker 1: Love that Luke Burgess, Yeah, cheering, it's a good watchers

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Speaker 1: going to see a bit of virgo on standsport in

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Speaker 4: Really, but it's something that no one really looked at.

442
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Speaker 2: No, but really just a couple of high.

443
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Speaker 5: Level execs camera who only worked it out when the

444
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Speaker 5: Blues one.

445
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Speaker 4: They were really really.

446
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Speaker 1: Yeah, anyways, it is what it is. It'll be tough

447
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Speaker 1: for the Brumbies over there in Chiefs Town, who'll be

448
00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,760
Speaker 1: smarting after dropping that game. We're going to get to

449
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Speaker 1: that game in a second. Firstly, we need to touch

450
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Speaker 1: in on the Crusaders and the Reds. My my wife,

451
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Speaker 1: she has a term for games like I went bore

452
00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:02,919
Speaker 1: out with Yas the other day on Stan loved it,

453
00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:08,639
Speaker 1: naughty naughty. Anyways, she says, this is a gong show.

454
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Speaker 1: This was a gong show and when a teams it's

455
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Speaker 1: a blowout. It's twenty seven il at one.

456
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Speaker 4: Stage we want to be gonghim red kind of like that.

457
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Speaker 1: It's a Canadian term, gongim gong show. I mean, where

458
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Speaker 1: do you where do you pick? Apart this game from

459
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Speaker 1: the other night, it looked as though the Crusaders just

460
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Speaker 1: played smarter, wet weather knockout footy.

461
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Speaker 3: Well, look, the Reds didn't fire a shot until in

462
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Speaker 3: the second half. I think ultimately they were beaten to

463
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Speaker 3: the punch. The Crusaders were just too good. They pressured

464
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Speaker 3: the ball out the back, particularly defensively for the red

465
00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,600
Speaker 3: so they couldn't get their sort of phase played going.

466
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Speaker 3: They were defensively disrupted at the breakout breakdown and just

467
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Speaker 3: I think didn't really start playing the brand of rugby

468
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Speaker 3: they wanted to play until probably sort of fifty fifty

469
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Speaker 3: five minutes and by then chasing a game in christ

470
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Speaker 3: It is just.

471
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Speaker 2: Too hard, you know.

472
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Speaker 3: And look what thirty straight at home finals games at

473
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Speaker 3: home the Crusade the one I meant you wouldn't want

474
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Speaker 3: to have me going there for a final thirty.

475
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Speaker 1: We'll get to that record. And second, can I ask

476
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Speaker 1: you both conditions like that, why by they playing any

477
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Speaker 1: rope in your half? Why try and run it from

478
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Speaker 1: sixty out in the same way they did which led

479
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Speaker 1: to the first try. The second try they just got

480
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 1: put under the pump after some refereeing decisions that could

481
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Speaker 1: have gone easily could have gone either way. So why

482
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Speaker 1: try and run it from sixty out in weather like that?

483
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Speaker 5: I think the first salient point is no scrum, no win. Okay,

484
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 5: that's big. And then from there, if you're the Reds,

485
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Speaker 5: if you want to play that style of football against

486
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Speaker 5: the Crusaders, you're going to lose. That's if you shine

487
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,919
Speaker 5: and play that brand against that brand Crusaders versus Reds,

488
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,919
Speaker 5: Reds lose, So you have to do something different. You've

489
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 5: got to win collisions which I didn't. You've got to

490
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 5: get fast recycled. That's your point of difference. You're not

491
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Speaker 5: going to be able to OutKick. Take's not box kicks

492
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,159
Speaker 5: not his thing right, and then tactical kicking across the

493
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 5: board compared to what the Crusader's aid out there.

494
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Speaker 4: You don't win that.

495
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Speaker 5: Okay, find a battleground that you can win. They didn't

496
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,360
Speaker 5: completely outclass never in the game. The Crusaders, they're thinking

497
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Speaker 5: about next week. By the fifty to fifth minute, this

498
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 5: is a French they'd say that they've sort of passed

499
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,679
Speaker 5: a quarte like, so they've sort of missed their season here.

500
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,160
Speaker 5: The Reds, this is a season that they will rude.

501
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 5: They look back and go, well, we dropped that one there,

502
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 5: could have won that one tight. Then we finish outside

503
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 5: the top two, three, we're in trouble and then you

504
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,919
Speaker 5: know you're outgunned. It's a disappointing season in them for

505
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 5: the Reds.

506
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,199
Speaker 1: That Fiji game will be still crushing. They might imagine

507
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,640
Speaker 1: that miss line out late that cost them that win there.

508
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 1: But we talk about the Crusaders thirty to zero at home,

509
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 1: so they've never lost a finals game at home. Can

510
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Speaker 1: either of you. Kevy, you love your sport internationally, so

511
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 1: to you, Mogs. Can you think of a team worldwide

512
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: who has a playoff record like that, who have never

513
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:57,679
Speaker 1: ever lost a match? Do they exist at home? Do

514
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Speaker 1: they exist some of.

515
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Speaker 4: Your neutral venues? Now, there's not many that have that record.

516
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,360
Speaker 2: I mean green Bay maybe.

517
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 1: I mean you're talking about it all conquering. You needed

518
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 1: team that had won four or five years straight, wouldn't you?

519
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,679
Speaker 1: Maybe Sidney UNI through the two thousands here in Sydney.

520
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 1: Lots of those are neutral venues, correct, You're right, I

521
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 1: don't know vantage. Yeah, it's like, is the most impressive

522
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 1: playoff team any sport anywhere in the world the Crusaders

523
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: thirty zero?

524
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Speaker 4: Because I'm just trying to think of a better sporting

525
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 4: team anyway. Yeah, who's better over over five year period accompassed?

526
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 4: It's not many.

527
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,199
Speaker 3: You've had sort of dynasties in different sports that have

528
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 3: been three to four years, but it's been to drop away.

529
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, the AFLs and the NRLs, the and the big

530
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 5: finals in big sports in Europe they go to neutral

531
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Speaker 5: venues at home.

532
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Speaker 4: And all the venues.

533
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: Yes, So you both make good points.

534
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Speaker 4: It probably talks a lot about the advantage of home

535
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Speaker 4: ground ugby.

536
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Speaker 1: They've had a lot of it. We talk about the

537
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: season not hitting the heights at eighty two for the Reds,

538
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: but can we talk about some of the players who

539
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: are either emerged or who have some minted their spots

540
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: at the top level across twenty twenty five.

541
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Speaker 3: I think Harry Wilson's been good and I think you

542
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 3: see when he wasn't there the impact he makes for

543
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 3: the team. So I think he was good. I thought

544
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 3: he was pretty good again on the weekend. I mean

545
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 3: we can touch on that little deaf kick that he

546
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 3: puts in for frasement, right, I mean, that's just a

547
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 3: for a number eight to do that in the seventy

548
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 3: fifth minute tied legs. It's pretty good. Like I mean,

549
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 3: it's just pretty good good stuff. So look, I think

550
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 3: he's been good. I think they've missed Josh Fluke. I

551
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 3: think the last two weeks he's been back. I think

552
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 3: he's been again that sort of glue in the back

553
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 3: line that helps him. Whether he gets to a Wallaby's

554
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 3: level will be interesting to see. But him missing since

555
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 3: round three I think hurt the Reds in the back line.

556
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 3: So I think those two have been very good.

557
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 1: Do you think Fluke when we see him in the

558
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 1: Wallaby squad's surely long term?

559
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 5: Definitely, it's probably not yet twenty three at the moment.

560
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 5: He's starting from behind as well. You mentioned yes, it

561
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 5: was like John Campbell, a bit like that, Harry will

562
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 5: something even like he needs.

563
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 4: A block of training. Now he's going to be firing.

564
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 5: He came back quick. You watched the last twenty minutes

565
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 5: of both of his games recently. He blew out and

566
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 5: still went on ticker. He's going to be wonder watch

567
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 5: when he gets a little block of training. Campbell and

568
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 5: flew The other ones just behind, you know, have to

569
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 5: play some army. What are they going to do with him?

570
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 5: Those sorts of guys Anderson, I thought's the one that's

571
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 5: probably improved his stocks. The rest of them at the

572
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 5: Reds this year. We love take, we love phrase, we

573
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 5: love Harriett. They're all the ones.

574
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 4: The usual suspects.

575
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 5: Had a better season, but it was tough on the weekend.

576
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 5: But he had a better season when they needed him to.

577
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 5: They still haven't replaced two part scrum time. It's always

578
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 5: been their achilles heel had a lot of injuries in

579
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 5: that position which I had.

580
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 3: For Australian rugby. You got two parts. Tell us you

581
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 3: know you're going to have to Whether you slip her there,

582
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 3: I'm not sure, but.

583
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 4: Even slips is trying to retire.

584
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 3: He can't kept in front row is a challenge for

585
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 3: austral rugby across the board.

586
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Speaker 1: I was start to see Flute resign. I think long

587
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: term he's going to be a phenomenal their name for

588
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: the Wallabies. As for me and Brill, yeah, brows be

589
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: next time. He's he's a genuine presence. Now he's a

590
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: backgrower and as a super rugby player, he's got he's

591
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: got some go about him. And again, long term, I

592
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: can't wait, and is going to have to be in

593
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 1: that squad. Surely if we got on form from this year.

594
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: You don't reckon, I reckon. I picked Fessler.

595
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 5: You'll be back just after the Reds game. Okay, maybe

596
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 5: that Australian New Zealand game. You've got to play in

597
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 5: one of those two? Okay, straight in mate, you think

598
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 5: so gosh?

599
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,239
Speaker 1: He started to start the fairs and then pull out

600
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: on the bench, gets to line out throwing working. Okay, hooker,

601
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: is what's your core role set peace, then let's get

602
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,959
Speaker 1: the footballer after Okay, gotcha noted? I'll tell you what

603
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: what a game?

604
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 3: You know? I think you just got to make sure

605
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 3: he's got the mileage. He's come back from a bad

606
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 3: hamstring strange.

607
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: So you just haven't even can I haven't even considered

608
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: because we haven't seen him.

609
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 4: He's just got a window around window like.

610
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 3: Whether he plays for the Reds, I don't. I think

611
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 3: that might be a bit early for him. But game, yeah,

612
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 3: you live. He's got to have to play the CG

613
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: or the AUNZ game.

614
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: Gotcha.

615
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll have to have some coverage in the squad.

616
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 3: But I think if he's fit and they're comfortable with

617
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 3: the work he's put in, I think he's starting.

618
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 5: Taking a square to sixty if you want. I got

619
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 5: every Australian player in camp if you want.

620
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: Also in a scrumline at obviously brings Davy Precky the Porkster,

621
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 1: right back into proceedings Blues Bee Chiefs, so we touched

622
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: on how exciting this was to watch from the field,

623
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Speaker 1: to play in Canberra. From the combox in Canberra, it

624
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: was a doozy. The Chiefs put themselves out to a

625
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: thirteen point leading is go job down by how many

626
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: in the animill this be? And then the Blues picked

627
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 1: open a little scene, pick picked at it, turned it

628
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: into a gaping hole, and then away they went. They

629
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: charged through it to score too converted Trice to win

630
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: that game, to the delight of the Blues fans who

631
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: made the trip down. The Battle of the Bombays. We

632
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: worked it out so it's the Hills, correct, that separates

633
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: the two, so they now the Bombay champions for the moment,

634
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: the Blues fell as, where do you want to start

635
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: with this game? I mean, I don't ever know. I

636
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: don't ever know how to commence.

637
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 5: Well, the early part I would have thought was exactly

638
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 5: as you would have thought. The script was a bit

639
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 5: of ill discipline from the Blues. Chiefs physical like this.

640
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 5: They just bashed each other. We saw that Hurricanes, but

641
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 5: we saw their crusaders step up physically, or probably five

642
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 5: or the six on the weekend stepped up. Breads were

643
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 5: maybe just below. But this was physical in the middle,

644
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 5: and it was the Chiefs that were more accurate, and

645
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 5: that's why they could accrue the three points. Both teams

646
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 5: played it like a final should be played in that

647
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,719
Speaker 5: regard and the turning points will come later. But in

648
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 5: terms of the way the Chiefs managed the first period

649
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 5: of the game, they could have blown it away earlier.

650
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think it was interesting that it wasn't

651
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 3: a tri scord to like fifty fifth minute, like it

652
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 3: was sort of that close. And you know, as you said,

653
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 3: the discipline, but I mean some of the some of

654
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 3: the tries or the bomb tries. I mean I think

655
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 3: we're looking at one here. I mean, if this how

656
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 3: Ratama lets this go, he's good. I mean how it

657
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 3: was so good he's looking on twice as well.

658
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: It's not even like.

659
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 4: Could have been the greatest try assist of all time.

660
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 2: I mean the outside banana kick.

661
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 5: Like off the left, but also the read the ball

662
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 5: off the kick. It wasn't off your players run sixty

663
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 5: and then well cross one end of the.

664
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: Box and then Bowden Barrett just says I can do

665
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 2: it myself and then.

666
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 4: Well the barrel.

667
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 5: One's interesting is so tactically when he's going out of

668
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 5: burden Barrett, you can see he's thinking, I've just got

669
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 5: to get possession and the conditions.

670
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 4: Will slide me over.

671
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 5: It's hard to talk technique with one of the greats

672
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 5: of all time. But just elbows together, body elbows together,

673
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 5: just elbows together, and just get lucky.

674
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 3: Two cheese boys probably could have hit on suspicion there

675
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: when he when he goes to tell it through.

676
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 5: I tell you, I'm sorry foremost and we just saw

677
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 5: it there vern Cotter's cap. Have you seen the way

678
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 5: you treats his cap? It comes off, brubs his head

679
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 5: with it. I reckon, I get slammed. Yeah, I think

680
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 5: justice for Verncotter's cap because it's been through the ring

681
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 5: of this year. It's got at least another week to

682
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 5: get well.

683
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: Speaking of bomb tries, Clark, I mean, I cannot believe

684
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: one of the best try scorers in world rugby has

685
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: not ice that one. It doesn't end up costing them,

686
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: but they're down by third d they get the penalty

687
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: vantage and they run advantage anyway. You just don't. I

688
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: mean ninety I reckon, I've got Radamor at ninety eight

689
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: times out of one hundred, he ice is at body

690
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: ninety nine. Clark's ninety nine point nine nine. That's to infinity.

691
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: How has that happened?

692
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 4: We just got a good piece of it, did he

693
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 4: was a defender.

694
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: Again, I think it was fin now.

695
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, just got a really good piece tackle for tackle, yes,

696
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 5: forget anything else.

697
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

698
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: So then there's the tri scored by Eklund, and I,

699
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't care who wins that game, obviously,

700
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: but if I was a cheese fan, I'd be happening

701
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: to close the look and no one because it kind

702
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: of looked like he sort of has two or three

703
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: goals to get across the line in the same way

704
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: that dou did later and was denied. So that try

705
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: stands Fellas, and then it comes down to the beer men.

706
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 5: But even leading into that seventy five minutes, Chief's eternality

707
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 5: goal to win the whole thing.

708
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 4: So I got that one right.

709
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: Yes, because he's got goes out on the left eilbow

710
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: does anymore?

711
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 4: Is that it happened from there?

712
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 5: It's that knee thrust and the double double. Yeah, so

713
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 5: he actually, yeah, he didn't need to do that the

714
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 5: ones he did.

715
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, eighty two minutes. Fellas traveled about eighty I just

716
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: can't see that. Eighty fifty four, Okay, So eighty fifty

717
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: four Gussy Gardner, who had a terrific night, I got

718
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: to say, was so good creating the drama and explaining

719
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: all this on the way through. So then they've got

720
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: the pell advantage and then they're just like we were.

721
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: Obviously we would have a crack at it. And did

722
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: you think I mean there was a sense of inevitability

723
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: around it wasn't there?

724
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 4: Well, you look, you sort of crowded around that screen.

725
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 5: Everyone knew it was coming, especially a couple of times

726
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 5: it was penny vantage too, and then you know that's

727
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 5: a brilliant carry reach out finish it, and then.

728
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 4: Crucially where you score it.

729
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 5: It was you didn't want to go out into the

730
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 5: fifteenth if you want to score out there much as Barrett,

731
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 5: you're back.

732
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 4: Him to kick it.

733
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: Incredible scenes that cold would have been their shirts eye cold,

734
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: and then body had to click over the conversion to

735
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: win it. And obviously Blake this has been such a

736
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: strong point of their game in twenty twenty five. They've

737
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: meant without the bells, without the whistls, without shifting it

738
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: why they're the narrow seeing the competition statistically. So yeah,

739
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: as you both said, you knew that if they got closed,

740
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: they're going to take a ton of stopping.

741
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 5: Which is why they're dangerous, which is why people were

742
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 5: riding off. They were always going to sneak in, and

743
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 5: we kept saying if they make it, no one wants

744
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 5: to play them. And they proved it and now they've

745
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 5: got a bit of confidence. They've also sort of they

746
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,479
Speaker 5: got a chip on their shop now after being written off,

747
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 5: and I think that's driven.

748
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: You know, he's got the biggest ship Arico you want.

749
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: He's chip boy, He's Smiths Chips, He's kettle chips, He's

750
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: all the chips. He's got them all over the joint.

751
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: He's got a point to prove, point and two prove

752
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: in his last roue of the Blues. Before we move

753
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: on to a quick look at some of the other

754
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: bits and pieces around around the grounds, I want to

755
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: give a shout to Cameron sewer Foire who watched that

756
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: game on from his hospital bed the other night. He's

757
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: already overcome Cancas once to make it back on the

758
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: field as a Blue and has been stricken again, so

759
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: he watched on in his hospital room with his partner,

760
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: and the Blues social media team were good enough to

761
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: share some of it. Get well soon, mate, We're all

762
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: cheering for you from this side of the Tasman. I

763
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: thought there's that too, you know you've got that in

764
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,479
Speaker 1: the background. They're playing for the big Fella fellas. So

765
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: who knows what happens this weekend against the Crusaders. Who

766
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: knows how it all plays out? That's the first semi.

767
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: That's Friday afternoon, Saturday night, Saturday afternoon. What do the

768
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: calling from here? Brumby's the chiefs just quickly record on

769
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: a Monday, give us some hope. How does it play out?

770
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: Can they get it done? At the moment Morgans, they're

771
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: four to one outsiders. They're not expected. The ag rhythm

772
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: says no.

773
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 4: That's probably short as a price. It's tough.

774
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 5: Look, if anyone's got the game, they've got the game

775
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 5: to do it right. But we keep talking about there's

776
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 5: a reason there's home ground and bantage that counts so

777
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 5: much in Super Robia. Look throughout the history, recent and

778
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 5: long term. They have a game that you can take

779
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 5: on the road. They need to get their defense right,

780
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,959
Speaker 5: their first up tackle percentage right. They like to get up,

781
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,959
Speaker 5: get an eyeline, make teams step back inside because they

782
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 5: got such a hard working forward pack. But they've got

783
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 5: to get their edge defense or it can get away

784
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 5: from them. Which it did last time, and then they're

785
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 5: just leaking a few if it's a tight And like

786
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 5: I say, look at Gardner right as a ref. He

787
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 5: did a great job because both teams didn't really need

788
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 5: speed in the game Chiefs versus Blues. They just wanted

789
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 5: to belt each other and Gardener was perfect. Chiefs might

790
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 5: want to get speed in the game against the Brumbies,

791
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,959
Speaker 5: so the style of game it is, I reckon Kevy

792
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 5: might be important too.

793
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think the Brumbies are going to want

794
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 3: to focus on that type play. They don't want to

795
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 3: get the width because they would have seen the Chiefs

796
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 3: looking and see the success the Canes had out wide,

797
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 3: particularly early on, and they'll be to your point, be

798
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: targeting those shooting, isolate the shooting defender and pick and choose,

799
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 3: whereas the Brumbies are going to want to core game.

800
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 3: They're all a lot, they'll shifted a lot through the

801
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 3: front row type fire is going to be critical for

802
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 3: them and line out and more.

803
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,479
Speaker 5: I think it's that's the malls that so the Chiefs

804
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 5: are going to spend all week on the mall defensively.

805
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 5: So guarantee Larkham's going to pick up a little one

806
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 5: out the back and the scene maybe one down the train.

807
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 4: And these sort of things rip and run. So the

808
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 4: tactical battle too is important.

809
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: Sets up beautifully Saturday afternoon for that match, just mopping

810
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: up some stuff in a nationally very quickly bathbeat Bristol

811
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: Bristol rather in the semi in the prem and I

812
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: mentioned less of el because my check out Stan Sports

813
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: Michael Checker has coached the lesser Tigers through to another

814
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: shot at some sealwear for checks, so well don to

815
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: check and more some twenties news as well, quickly just

816
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: landing on our news thest today.

817
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 5: Yeah on checks obviously, David Kidwell, Peter Hewitt's there. If

818
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 5: he perish, he's got a great try. So a bit

819
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 5: of an Australian theme there, check he wins where he goes.

820
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 4: There's a bit of a lesson there.

821
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 5: Yeah. I was the twenty squad that will go to

822
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 5: Italy off the back of a hugely encouraging TRC in

823
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 5: South Africa under coach Chris Whittaker. He named his thirty

824
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 5: man squad the big one is drey Pakia. Now that

825
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 5: the Reds are out, logically goes back to national hons

826
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 5: under twenties. He'll be a huge in And what I

827
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 5: liked was two players got picked from outside of the

828
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 5: talent id pathway academies Gilfil and Venipolu, so we haven't

829
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 5: seen them, so it's good to see that the selectors

830
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 5: were looking at club form and kids that have maybe

831
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 5: late bloomers. So it's an encouraging thing that is I

832
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 5: reckon for people that aren't exactly on the pathway.

833
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 1: Sid Harvey with Ossie experience now as well with the sevens,

834
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: should go well man Tomorrow we are going hard with

835
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: the Brahmis. We've got no a lot of seat lined

836
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: up for Between two Posts. Extra is knockout semi finals week,

837
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: so we will see you all again for your next

838
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 1: hit of Between two Posts. I'm talking Extra on Tuesday