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Speaker 2: Welcome to six Tackles with Gus. Thanks to the tab.
Speaker 2: Great to be with you for another week. I'm in Adelaide,
Speaker 2: Phil gold is in Sydney. Good morning, Gus.
Speaker 1: Matthew Thompson. How are you doing.
Speaker 2: I'm doing well. Are you going well?
Speaker 1: I'm going good. You had a late night, did you?
Speaker 2: They're all late nights when the swimming starts. Yes.
Speaker 1: Have you enjoyed it?
Speaker 2: It's been good. Yes, it's been good. First couple of
Speaker 2: days out of the way. We've got a bunch of
Speaker 2: swimmers already booked to go to Singapore for the World Champs,
Speaker 2: so it's been great swimming. A bit of drama. Did
Speaker 2: you see what happened with Katie McKellen on the first day?
Speaker 1: No, I didn't see that.
Speaker 2: Well, she had a false start in the heats of
Speaker 2: the fifty backstrope. She was disqualified and then she appealed
Speaker 2: and they put her back in the race and she
Speaker 2: ended up winning on the first night.
Speaker 1: So, craigy, we thought they have trouble with their judiciary.
Speaker 2: The Matter Review Panel. Yes, yes, you had a didn't
Speaker 2: you have an incident with a matter of view panel
Speaker 2: this week?
Speaker 1: Did you?
Speaker 2: Did you go in there this week or.
Speaker 1: Are you no, I didn't go in. I didn't go
Speaker 1: in Billy Army kick out. I got off his charge,
Speaker 1: which we might talk about later, because he was penalized,
Speaker 1: he was sin binned. He was charged by the Match
Speaker 1: Review Committee only to go down to judiciary and they
Speaker 1: threw it out straight away. So it makes you wonder
Speaker 1: why he was panelized on the weekend and sinbin which
Speaker 1: are both very big penalties during the course of a game.
Speaker 1: We see that quite often. All I was conceded to
Speaker 1: try while he was off the field. He didn't deserve
Speaker 1: to be off the field, and that was later proven
Speaker 1: that the judiciary. And it just goes to show again
Speaker 1: that our system is flawed, that our referees, our bunker,
Speaker 1: our match review committee and our judiciary are way too,
Speaker 1: way too harsh in this game. And I don't think
Speaker 1: it's fair on the players, and I don't think it's
Speaker 1: fair on the game itself. But more about that another time.
Speaker 1: I think that's pretty fair comment.
Speaker 2: All right, let's do some yes no questions to get
Speaker 2: going this morning. Adam O'Brien's comments about the Newcastle Knights
Speaker 2: fans at the weekend was overstepping the mark. Gus.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I guess in hindsight he realized that he
Speaker 1: probably said the wrong thing, But I can understand the
Speaker 1: emotion and everything that was going through him at the time.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was an incredible victory by the Newcastle Knights.
Speaker 1: They were down by a big score at halftime, and
Speaker 1: there were a section of the fans that did show
Speaker 1: their displeasure as the players left the field. Whether they're
Speaker 1: showing their displeasure at the players themselves or just where
Speaker 1: Newcastle is at the moment, I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: it was raised with Adam O'Brien after the game. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure that he heard that himself, and he made
Speaker 1: a passing comment regarding the Newcastle fans which was probably
Speaker 1: inappropriate and probably should have been recanted on the night.
Speaker 1: It took another twenty four hours for him to eventually
Speaker 1: come back and apologize for those comments. But you know,
Speaker 1: put it down to a little bit of stress, put
Speaker 1: it down to a little bit of you know, exuberance,
Speaker 1: have such a magnificent win where they came back in
Speaker 1: the second half to scoring golden point, and put it
Speaker 1: down to emotion. And I think most people can understand that,
Speaker 1: but you know, there are some things that sometimes need
Speaker 1: to be said and other things that you know you'd
Speaker 1: like to say, but you just bite your tongue and
Speaker 1: move on. And at the end of the day, the
Speaker 1: fans turn up, they pay their money, they're entitled to boo,
Speaker 1: and if they boo, well you've got to learn something
Speaker 1: from that or prove them wrong one or the other.
Speaker 1: And in the end the Nights had a great win.
Speaker 1: The easy solution is that those that were booing at
Speaker 1: halftime were probably cheering at full time. So it's just
Speaker 1: how the fortunes of rugby league change in the space.
Speaker 1: But you know, fans are entitled to show the displeasure.
Speaker 1: Whether they're well informed or whether they're right or wrong
Speaker 1: is really irrelevant. They're the fans and it's up to
Speaker 1: players to perform. Newcastle did that in the second half.
Speaker 1: It was an extraordinary weekend of rugby league. Really when
Speaker 1: you really think about I know we're in yes now
Speaker 1: at the moment, but the weekend started with that magnificent
Speaker 1: comeback from the Newcastle Knights and that Golden Point victory.
Speaker 1: Calm Pongers scoring in the first session of Golden Point.
Speaker 1: You know, the next night Melbourne Storm. They showed us
Speaker 1: again why they're probably Premiership favorites with a big win
Speaker 1: over the Cowboys that just gave them no chance at all.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins and what a great football team this is.
Speaker 1: They were brilliant in their performance, absolutely putting the Dragons
Speaker 1: to the sword by fifty points. There's such a great
Speaker 1: attacking football team and they've got plenty of upside too.
Speaker 1: The Warriors outstanding performance over the Sharks, like outstanding. Sharks
Speaker 1: were favored in that game. And I think we said
Speaker 1: last week, I think the market is wrong, you know,
Speaker 1: but the Sharks just at the moment can't quite get
Speaker 1: their act together, and the Warriors really are. They're just
Speaker 1: motoring along it moment. The Broncos, well there's two of them,
Speaker 1: isn't there, Trichy, they just see caps from the very
Speaker 1: first set of six. They just showed again what talent
Speaker 1: that they've got. The Raiders, you know, consummate professionals. Again,
Speaker 1: they're up there were the most wins in the competition
Speaker 1: at the moment and they beat South sitting down there
Speaker 1: on a big day for Josh Papali setting his record.
Speaker 1: The Panthers and the West Tigers was a great game
Speaker 1: of footy, real struggle for both sides and high quality
Speaker 1: and really belied their positions on the ladder the quality
Speaker 1: of football we saw in that particular game. And then
Speaker 1: a big crowd, another big crowd at their Course stadium
Speaker 1: on Sunday in wet and cold conditions to support the
Speaker 1: Bulldogs in their victory over the Eels. So an amazing weekend,
Speaker 1: some big score lines, some dominant victories, and some concerns
Speaker 1: for a number of teams that are on the end
Speaker 1: of those big score lines. The original question was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Adam O'Brien probably would like to he did those comments
Speaker 1: back anyway, but experience might handle that a little bit
Speaker 1: better next time.
Speaker 2: Just on your recap there of the games at the weekend.
Speaker 2: I actually my ears pricked up last week because you
Speaker 2: mentioned how wide open the compies and one thing he
Speaker 2: said was the Dolphins could get on a run. I'm like,
Speaker 2: the Dolphins. What are you seeing in the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Well, they're a strong side. I know they've just lost
Speaker 1: another couple of forwards for the rest of the season,
Speaker 1: but they've got great depth in that area. They had
Speaker 1: a big forward pack and willing workers. They've got this
Speaker 1: brilliant young halfback who just seems to be getting better
Speaker 1: and better by the day. And he and his combination
Speaker 1: with Nick Arima really gives them great strike power. And
Speaker 1: they're very athletic out wide. And you know, I've seen
Speaker 1: them firsthand. They're a powerful football team with great strike power,
Speaker 1: the ability to score points, their defenses improving all the time,
Speaker 1: and you know they got I go off to a
Speaker 1: rocky start to the season, but in recent weeks they've
Speaker 1: probably been one of the form sides of the competition.
Speaker 1: And they fear no one. That was a big win
Speaker 1: over They gave the Dragons no chance the other night.
Speaker 1: They just absolutely got them from the first minute of
Speaker 1: the game and never relented on them and beat them
Speaker 1: in all parts of the park. So I like the
Speaker 1: Dolphins as a football team, not only for the rest
Speaker 1: of this season, but certainly into the future as well.
Speaker 2: Question number two. Ky Peers Paul is a great acquisition
Speaker 2: for the West Tigers.
Speaker 1: He is. He's a real talent. I actually interviewed Ky
Speaker 1: Peers Paul a few years ago by Zoom he and
Speaker 1: he's I think his parents he was over in England.
Speaker 1: He'd come out of a sort of rugby system and
Speaker 1: had played a little bit of football in junior academies
Speaker 1: over there, and he was touted as a player of
Speaker 1: the future. He was a center back rower. He'd only
Speaker 1: just really started playing rugby league and we had a
Speaker 1: good look at him and would probably would have liked
Speaker 1: to have signed him at the time. But he got
Speaker 1: a big offer from the Newcastle Knights to go up there.
Speaker 1: It was an offer based on potential and it was
Speaker 1: quite a gamble. And having gone through the heartache of
Speaker 1: or not the heart ache, but the hard work of
Speaker 1: getting him out here to Australia and assimilating him and
Speaker 1: get him into the NRL and giving him some experience,
Speaker 1: they've lost him to the West Tigers. I think that's
Speaker 1: a big loss for Newcastle. It's a huge game for
Speaker 1: the West Tigers. He's a quality player and he's still
Speaker 1: only learning the game. He's still only finding himself. I
Speaker 1: don't think the Knights have really learned how to play
Speaker 1: with him. Or He's played a little bit of football
Speaker 1: on the edge on the left. He's played a little
Speaker 1: bit of football now on the edge on the right.
Speaker 1: It seems he can play both sides of the field
Speaker 1: pretty well. He looks to be a have plenty of
Speaker 1: skill in an attacking sense, and his defense is getting better, thinks.
Speaker 1: I don't think his career has started yet. For Newcastle,
Speaker 1: who invested so much money in him and had him
Speaker 1: there for a couple of seasons, to be losing him
Speaker 1: now is now it's a bit of a quandary because
Speaker 1: given where the Newcastle Knights are at the moment, but
Speaker 1: you know we're not. We're not running their roster. They
Speaker 1: would have a plan, I guess, but it's it's a
Speaker 1: good get for the West Tigers and I can see
Speaker 1: him playing alongside Jerome Lewie there and Jerome will have
Speaker 1: a weapon to fire at the opposition defensive lines. And
Speaker 1: I think he's a really good young player.
Speaker 2: My understanding is that they've basically said to him you
Speaker 2: can go because the salary cap pressure they find themselves
Speaker 2: under with respect to the Dylan Brown signing. But watching
Speaker 2: Newcastle we call quite a few other games this year,
Speaker 2: I get frustrated that they don't seem to know how
Speaker 2: to use this kid, like he's got massive arms and
Speaker 2: he's a proficient offloader. You could base your attack around that.
Speaker 2: He's so talented with his ball play. He's a bit
Speaker 2: of old school.
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, Well, the Knights are struggling in attack everywhere.
Speaker 1: They're struggling for direction, they're struggling to get the ball
Speaker 1: to their strike players, and they've had a numb of
Speaker 1: games this year where they've really failed to trouble the
Speaker 1: score the scorer at all. You know, they can't seem
Speaker 1: to get it together. They've got one of the great
Speaker 1: attacking forces in the game and Kayleb Ponger who just
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be able to get the ball when
Speaker 1: he wants it, how he needs it and to do
Speaker 1: what he needs to do with it. And Kyle Pispaul
Speaker 1: is probably a victim of that, to be honest. He's
Speaker 1: probably suffering from that, and you know they need to
Speaker 1: get that worked out. I noticed that they've put Jackson
Speaker 1: Hastings back in the side this week, which will solve
Speaker 1: two of the problems in attack. I think there are
Speaker 1: three elements to your attack, which is your direction, your
Speaker 1: delivery and your play direction where the set of six
Speaker 1: is going to head and what points on the field
Speaker 1: you're going to hit. The delivery of how you're going
Speaker 1: to get the ball to your strike players, and then
Speaker 1: the players that they come up with, but without the
Speaker 1: direction and the delivery, the players don't matter. The direction
Speaker 1: is the important thing, and they've changed their hearts so
Speaker 1: often over the past couple of seasons looking for a solution,
Speaker 1: and it would appear as our Jackson Hastings may have
Speaker 1: to be recalled. He will at least give them that.
Speaker 1: Once he gives them direction, well, then the delivery of
Speaker 1: the ball to the right people at the right time
Speaker 1: should occur and from there their talents should take over.
Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to watching with Newcastle in the
Speaker 1: coming weeks.
Speaker 2: The Panthers are coming to get.
Speaker 1: Them, well, there are chance they're not far behind. It's
Speaker 1: amazing what a couple of wins can do, and not
Speaker 1: only the couple of wins that they've had, but the
Speaker 1: manner in which they've done it. They've just some of
Speaker 1: our younger players are really starting to buy into the
Speaker 1: system and get a little bit of confidence in the
Speaker 1: top grade. Earlier in the year I think they were
Speaker 1: suffering from a little bit of inexperience and some changes
Speaker 1: toing and throwing around the outside backs in who was
Speaker 1: going to play where, But they seem to have settled
Speaker 1: on some combinations. Now they're still got to get through
Speaker 1: this Origin period, which is going to be very difficult
Speaker 1: for them, and I think they've got a really tough
Speaker 1: part of the drawer. I think after Origin two, I
Speaker 1: think they're playing in New Zealand and probably won't be
Speaker 1: able to take their rep players across there, so they've
Speaker 1: got but they're walking a tight rope. No risk in
Speaker 1: the world, but just pass the halfway mark in the competition.
Speaker 1: I think if they could win probably seven games from
Speaker 1: there on last eleven, which they're very capable of doing,
Speaker 1: then they're going to be in the finals. Hunt. I
Speaker 1: think fifty percent of your wins, fifty percent of your
Speaker 1: games should get you in the eight. That's the way
Speaker 1: it's tracking at the moment. Yeah, And what confuses you
Speaker 1: with the latter is the number of buyers and who's
Speaker 1: had buyers and who hasn't had buyers, who's had two
Speaker 1: and some have had now three buys. I don't know
Speaker 1: why we get two points for a buy confuses everybody.
Speaker 1: But you know, Panthers aren't that far away, and they've
Speaker 1: got the ability to string some wins together and things
Speaker 1: could look very very different in six weeks time. If
Speaker 1: they could win three or four of the next six
Speaker 1: and set themselves up for the business end of the season,
Speaker 1: which we know they handle better than anyone else. And
Speaker 1: they've had some performances this year which remind us that
Speaker 1: they're still very very when they're needed. Their last couple
Speaker 1: of wins have been tough, you know. I mean, Paramatta
Speaker 1: and West Tigers have really taken it to them, and
Speaker 1: both those sides are going a lot better than their
Speaker 1: position on the ladder suggests too. So Penrether had to
Speaker 1: work hard and they've had to work hard at their
Speaker 1: own good brand of football to win, and I think
Speaker 1: that will give them a great deal of confidence. Talking
Speaker 1: to a couple of the senior players at the Panthers
Speaker 1: and just on the weekend, they're really pleased with the
Speaker 1: way some of the younger blokes are coming through and
Speaker 1: they're gaining more confidence in them and the young fellows
Speaker 1: are getting more confidence. So don't write the Panthers up.
Speaker 1: Don't write anyone off in this competition. Really, don't write
Speaker 1: anyone off. It can fortunes can change within seven days.
Speaker 1: It's remarkable some of these teams have got flogged on
Speaker 1: the weekend, could easily turn around and win again this
Speaker 1: weekend or the weekend after. It's a topsy turvy competition
Speaker 1: at the moment. What I do know is that the
Speaker 1: teams at the top of the ladder have earned their
Speaker 1: positions because of their consistency, where other teams have probably
Speaker 1: being a little more inconsistent. But at the midpoint of
Speaker 1: the season, and this is talking about people who have
Speaker 1: predictive models or people who work on data to tell
Speaker 1: you to tell you who she's going to be winning games.
Speaker 1: You know, at the start of the season, no one
Speaker 1: could have predicted what the ladder was going to look like.
Speaker 1: At the midpoint of the season. There is no one
Speaker 1: that could have told you that after twelve or thirteen rounds,
Speaker 1: this is what the NRL Premiership Ladder would look like
Speaker 1: as it is today, which means it could be completely
Speaker 1: different in another twelve weeks. We really don't know what's
Speaker 1: in front of us, which makes it exciting. Everyone's saying
Speaker 1: their ability to win games. Everyone is, you know, there
Speaker 1: is everyone can win and everyone can lose. That's the
Speaker 1: nature of this competition at the moment. That's why refereeing
Speaker 1: and other seasons are so crucial, and they need to
Speaker 1: get that right, and they need to be less involved.
Speaker 1: You know. I'm so determined to keep getting that message
Speaker 1: out there because it's for the betterment of the game.
Speaker 1: It's not criticism, that's not wining. It's just for the
Speaker 1: better of the game, betterment of the product, betterment of
Speaker 1: the understanding of the fans. That's crucial because these games
Speaker 1: can be decided on just one play and on one decision,
Speaker 1: and we don't need as many penalties. We don't need
Speaker 1: as many six agains, we don't need as many sin bins,
Speaker 1: we don't need as much match review committee, and we
Speaker 1: don't need as many suspensions as what we're getting. It's
Speaker 1: out of control at the moment.
Speaker 2: Okay, Origin seven days away today. We're going to do
Speaker 2: an Origin preview in Perth next Monday, so we won't
Speaker 2: turn the game inside out today. But a few top
Speaker 2: line questions. Cameron Munster the new Queensland captain. A few
Speaker 2: years ago. I think his name was thrown around, but
Speaker 2: the perception was maybe it was a little bit too soon.
Speaker 2: I actually think it's an inspired decision.
Speaker 1: What about you, Yeah, well it is. He is probably
Speaker 1: now the senior playmaker of the group. He's been there
Speaker 1: the longest. He's played with the likes of Cherry Evans
Speaker 1: and all these other great players. He's played with the
Speaker 1: Cameron Smith and the Cooper Kronks and the Jonathan Thurstons
Speaker 1: and those sort of players as well. He's been around
Speaker 1: the origin scene for some time and he's an eighty
Speaker 1: minute player. When we spoke on one hundred percent foot
Speaker 1: of the other night, Cameron Smith was kind of learning
Speaker 1: the way of Tina for sau Maula. Are we as
Speaker 1: a leader of the pack? And he said as a
Speaker 1: natural leader? And I don't doubt that for one second.
Speaker 1: He certainly is. But my question was, well, what happens
Speaker 1: when he goes off? Because he's not going to play
Speaker 1: the eighty minutes. So you know, after Cherry Evans has
Speaker 1: been dumbed, not only you're looking for one captain, you're
Speaker 1: going to have to find two, because you have to
Speaker 1: find someone to be captain when he's not on the field,
Speaker 1: and then maybe that person's not on the field when
Speaker 1: he comes off. So it would be natural to find
Speaker 1: someone a who was going to be an eighty minute player,
Speaker 1: and Cameron Munster fits that bill And I think that
Speaker 1: it's an inspired and I think it will do him
Speaker 1: the world of good too. Cameron Munster has been in
Speaker 1: and out of he's best formed this year and I
Speaker 1: think that this could really help him too and his
Speaker 1: focus and his contribution to this game as well. So
Speaker 1: I think it's an inspired choice. I think it'll help
Speaker 1: Cameron Munster himself, and looking through their player list, to
Speaker 1: be honest, there was really no one else. There was
Speaker 1: really no one else that they could have chosen, so
Speaker 1: they've gone the right way from my perspective.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's interesting, but there's a number of club captains
Speaker 2: in that team. Harry Green obviously captains Melbourne, Pat Carrigan,
Speaker 2: he's in a club captain, but he's been touted as
Speaker 2: a long term leadership option for Brisbane, Queensland and Australia. Tino.
Speaker 2: As you mentioned, Caln Pong has captain of Newcastle. So
Speaker 2: you're saying that he was the obvious choice.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's the obvious choice for me. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think the captain's got to be an eighty minute
Speaker 1: player for a start. I don't like captains that are
Speaker 1: not playing the full tilda the game, and I think
Speaker 1: that it would indicate to me if Harry Grant was
Speaker 1: overlooked in preference to Cameron Monster that maybe they're going
Speaker 1: to help Harry Grant a little bit and not play
Speaker 1: the eighty minutes. I still think the Kurk Man will
Speaker 1: probably start the game at nine just to keep Harry
Speaker 1: Grant out of that Barrows. You spoke about pat Patty Carrigan,
Speaker 1: Well he's on the bench. He's been reduced back to
Speaker 1: the bench. Calen Ponger. You know, I guess the form
Speaker 1: of Rys Walsh in his comeback game the other day
Speaker 1: applies pressure there as to who's going to be the
Speaker 1: longer term fullback for Queensland. So I guess if they're
Speaker 1: looking for a captain just for this series and maybe
Speaker 1: into the next two or three series. When I look
Speaker 1: through this list, he is the one most likely. He
Speaker 1: is the playmaker, most likely to be around for the
Speaker 1: next two or three years and give him a few
Speaker 1: years in that position, and he's the eighty minute leader
Speaker 1: in this team leading into this game. To be honest,
Speaker 1: it was one of the reasons why I don't think
Speaker 1: they should have dropped Cherry Evans at the moment. You know,
Speaker 1: I just think they still need his experience and his
Speaker 1: leadership and it's a big call. As I said on
Speaker 1: one hundred Percent Footy, I really respect Billy Slater for
Speaker 1: making the call. You know that he's an Origin coache,
Speaker 1: he's you know, when you put in these positions, you're
Speaker 1: responsible for making big decisions. And I totally support his
Speaker 1: right to make that decision. Whether we agree with it
Speaker 1: or not is a different thing. But you know, he's
Speaker 1: made a bold move, and good luck to him, all
Speaker 1: power to him. He's owned the team and he's owned
Speaker 1: this decision, and he's obviously given a great consideration. It's
Speaker 1: probably just not one that I would have made at
Speaker 1: this time. I just don't think it's the right time.
Speaker 1: But you know, he could well be proven correct next
Speaker 1: Wednesday night. I guess he felt like he had to
Speaker 1: do something because just watching his reaction during and after
Speaker 1: the first Origin game, it looked a little forlorn. I
Speaker 1: think there was a feeling that if nothing changes, nothing's
Speaker 1: going to change, you know, So he had to make
Speaker 1: some changes, whether it be attitude or personnel or you know,
Speaker 1: a view to looking more towards the future. But it
Speaker 1: seemed like a strange decision to give Cherry Evans just
Speaker 1: one game and then we'll no good, You're out. It's
Speaker 1: unlike Queensland. They don't usually do that. So it's the
Speaker 1: enormity of the decision that they're all going to have
Speaker 1: to live with, I guess. And again, now we have
Speaker 1: a rookie captain in Cameron Munster and at origin level
Speaker 1: or rookie halfback, it's going to be very very hard
Speaker 1: for them.
Speaker 2: Supposed to it and isn't going to sit back and
Speaker 2: let the game get away from him though. He's going
Speaker 2: to take the game on and Monster's very much a
Speaker 2: player like that as well, So perhaps in his thinking
Speaker 2: was that I need somebody who's going to get out
Speaker 2: there and if the game isn't going in our favor,
Speaker 2: do something to try and tilt it our way. Maybe
Speaker 2: they were a little bit in the opening game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I don't think that come from the halves.
Speaker 1: I think they lost the Battle of the middle and
Speaker 1: the halves were a victim of that. I think, as
Speaker 1: I said, I don't think Jonathan Thurston or cuvera Kroank
Speaker 1: could have performed behind that forward pack the way it went.
Speaker 1: And it's really the forwards that they're going to have
Speaker 1: to stand up and get them into this contest. There
Speaker 1: is no getting away from that. You know, Tom Didden
Speaker 1: and Cameron Munster can be as active as they like
Speaker 1: in the opening stages of the game, but unless they're
Speaker 1: forwards get into the physical battle and can contain this
Speaker 1: New South Wales pack. Well it's one of the reasons too.
Speaker 1: With Cherry Evans. I made the point the other night
Speaker 1: Cherry Evans has said, such a wonderful career, He's greatly experienced,
Speaker 1: and you know if Game two and three go exactly
Speaker 1: the same way that New South Wales are just too
Speaker 1: dominant in the middle, then Cherry Evans can handle that.
Speaker 1: His resume can handle that, his experience can handle that.
Speaker 1: You know, he's you know, he's experienced and he's professional.
Speaker 1: He will handle the fact. Well, okay, maybe we weren't
Speaker 1: good enough this year where they're now thrusting. Tom didn't
Speaker 1: into this situation without I don't think improving what the
Speaker 1: real problem was from game one. So if Tom did
Speaker 1: and as a rookie comes in behind a beaten forward pack,
Speaker 1: if they get monster the same way as they did
Speaker 1: in Game two and three, well I don't think Tom
Speaker 1: didn't can help them, and what does that do to
Speaker 1: his development? And his confidence at this level. I think
Speaker 1: this was really Cherry Evans. You know, if the ship
Speaker 1: was going to go down, they had to take the
Speaker 1: captain down with them. I don't think that changing the
Speaker 1: halfback is going to change their fortunes unless the forwards
Speaker 1: stand up, and Queensland need their forwards to stand up.
Speaker 1: Now it could happen. I mean they've made some changes,
Speaker 1: They've put Carrigan back to the bench, and I fully
Speaker 1: suspect that Harry Grant won't start the game. I think
Speaker 1: the Kurkman will and they'll try to get on the
Speaker 1: front foot early. And the early parts of this game
Speaker 1: could be completely differ friend Dean bar in Perth. They
Speaker 1: could get a couple of penalties, you know, there could
Speaker 1: be a couple of hia's. There could be anything happens
Speaker 1: in this opening stands and against Queensland into the contest
Speaker 1: and then it's a completely different game. But what we
Speaker 1: saw in game one was obvious. Blind Freddie could see
Speaker 1: what was happening in game one and Queensland just were
Speaker 1: never in it. The only try they scored was against
Speaker 1: twelve men with an unfair and ridiculous sin bidding, which
Speaker 1: should never have happened in State of Origin football, and
Speaker 1: that was the only time they looked dangerous in the
Speaker 1: game was when New South Wales were vulnerable down to
Speaker 1: twelve men. Other than that, New South Wales completely controlled them.
Speaker 1: So I don't know that Tom did And can turn
Speaker 1: that around on his own no matter how well he plays.
Speaker 1: They're forwards have got to waim up and that'll be
Speaker 1: the whole focus of their week. Surely to give Tom
Speaker 1: did and Cameron Munster a platform on which to play.
Speaker 1: It might sound a bit harsh, but you know, if
Speaker 1: Game two and Game three games the second and same
Speaker 1: aay as Game one, then I think Cherry Evans was
Speaker 1: the one that that needed to go down with the
Speaker 1: ship rather than bringing a rookie in to play that position.
Speaker 2: What about the Blues Steady as she goes really obviously
Speaker 2: a force change with Bitch Barnett. But Stefano comes in
Speaker 2: on the bench and Max King's going to start, so
Speaker 2: they get to pick up where they left off.
Speaker 1: It's good for good for Max to get a start.
Speaker 1: Neil handle that really well. It really has been steady.
Speaker 1: I think Stefano's got the nod because he was in
Speaker 1: camp for Game one and had trained with them, so
Speaker 1: they've tried to keep it as familiar as possible. I
Speaker 1: think Keon Kalamtungi is very unlucky not to be picked
Speaker 1: in this game. I think his club form has been outstanding,
Speaker 1: and you know, if there's another injury or what have you.
Speaker 1: Leading into game three, I think he should be a
Speaker 1: four runner there. But Stefano, he's been in this group before.
Speaker 1: He understands the landscape very well. He trained with them
Speaker 1: for round one. They had a good win, they had
Speaker 1: a dominant win. If they can learn out of game
Speaker 1: one from winning, if they can take it to another level,
Speaker 1: they're going to make it extremely hard for Coin then
Speaker 1: extremely hard. I personally, I think they'll win handsomely. I
Speaker 1: think they'll be They'll be too good again. But Origin
Speaker 1: is a funny beast. It doesn't take much at the
Speaker 1: start of the game for the game to tilt in
Speaker 1: the other direction. I can tell you. So the opening stands.
Speaker 1: They need to be strong, if not stronger than what
Speaker 1: they were. I think they can be a little more
Speaker 1: adventurous than what they were, a little less can conservative.
Speaker 1: I don't think they can just rely that Game one
Speaker 1: will be repeated In the opening stands. They've got to
Speaker 1: go out and earn it. But I'm sure they will too.
Speaker 1: They're professional footballers. They understand it. Coaches know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: I think they're extremely hard to be. It's a good
Speaker 1: looking team to.
Speaker 2: Me, Gus. We've got a new sponsor on six tackles
Speaker 2: with Gas and responsor State of Origin. They've jumped on
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Speaker 1: My field bill. Yeah, I will send them broke riding.
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Speaker 2: a top three power Players every week and the question
Speaker 2: this week is which three players do you think will
Speaker 2: have the biggest impact on Game two of the Origin Series?
Speaker 1: Game two?
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 1: Which three players?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, Game two. The three players that I think will
Speaker 1: have the most impact are Payne hass A Ciao and
Speaker 1: Nathan Cleary. I think I think paynehass and a SiO
Speaker 1: said Dave and Mitch Barnett did his job too, and
Speaker 1: so did Angus Crichton and they are all good the
Speaker 1: new South Wales forward. But I thought in particular payn
Speaker 1: hess was dominant and he always is. He's always very
Speaker 1: active and he has a lot of runs and a
Speaker 1: lot of tackles and he was terrific. The CIEO has
Speaker 1: learned that Origin is not club football, the club football
Speaker 1: that he brought to Origin in previous years. I think
Speaker 1: Queensland did a good job of handling, so he had
Speaker 1: less passing. Was a great runner at the ball. He's
Speaker 1: got a big frame and a left foot step and
Speaker 1: very very strong and he put the passing away in
Speaker 1: this game. And they played it more like an Origin
Speaker 1: structure than just bringing their club football to the Origin stage.
Speaker 1: And I think that helped Cleary in particular as well.
Speaker 1: It was harder for Queensland to contend with and I
Speaker 1: think those two players were extremely impressive for me. I
Speaker 1: thought they were the best two players in the first
Speaker 1: half hour play in Paynhassen a sieo, and then off
Speaker 1: the back of that, I thought Cleary had his best
Speaker 1: ever Origin. I'd mixed reports people talking about Nathan clearing
Speaker 1: what he did, but I think Nathan Cleary too has
Speaker 1: learned that it's not club football and he plays a
Speaker 1: different way and I thought he was really good in
Speaker 1: that game. He had a huge number of runs. He
Speaker 1: made people misstackles, he got some offloads, he had a
Speaker 1: hand in all the tries that they scored. I thought
Speaker 1: it was his best origin and I think he'll only
Speaker 1: get better.
Speaker 2: Out of that.
Speaker 1: And this is a really really good New South Wales team,
Speaker 1: really good New South Wales team, and I'm not just
Speaker 1: saying that, I think. I think it's a really good side.
Speaker 1: They won last year's series and I think they'll They're
Speaker 1: going to back it up and win this series and
Speaker 1: they'll close it out in Perth and then come back
Speaker 1: to Sydney looking for a whitewash. But if you want
Speaker 1: your top three players, the power players in this game,
Speaker 1: has Yo Cleary would be my three.
Speaker 2: Well, the first two are certainly very powerful. I was
Speaker 2: actually having a look when we sort of spoke spontaneously
Speaker 2: the other week about the ninety five series. I had
Speaker 2: a look at the ninety six series, which New South
Speaker 2: Wales won three nil, which no one really talks too
Speaker 2: much about it.
Speaker 1: We don't talk about that one, but you went.
Speaker 2: Through the whole series at the same seventeen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's never been done before and had never been
Speaker 1: done since. I don't think well, I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: my team's gone through the whole series of seventeen players,
Speaker 1: but no one's won at three nil. I think, go
Speaker 1: through a series with the same seventeen players and win
Speaker 1: three nil. I said, it may be equaled at some stage,
Speaker 1: but it can never be better. You don't get any
Speaker 1: better than that. In those days. There was no eight
Speaker 1: eighth man either. We didn't need another one on the bench.
Speaker 1: I think by Game three a couple of the players
Speaker 1: played with injury. We had the series one and they
Speaker 1: sort of came in and played with injury because they
Speaker 1: just wanted to be a part of history. To win
Speaker 1: three nil and with the same seventeen players, they are
Speaker 1: a special group, a really good footy team.
Speaker 2: And not only that, the Super League players were actually
Speaker 2: eligible to play that year for Queensland, so the Langers
Speaker 2: and you know, all the other superstars with it.
Speaker 1: Or we turned back to normal the following year. Yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that was a good side. I think Game three was
Speaker 1: at lang Park. We might have won fifteen fourteen or
Speaker 1: something like that, or I can't remember the exact score.
Speaker 1: We won by a point. I think Brad Fitler kicked
Speaker 1: a field goal early in the second half and then
Speaker 1: Queensland came back and we had to hang on to
Speaker 1: win it. But we won the first two games pretty
Speaker 1: well and then the last game was a battle. But
Speaker 1: as I say, we played with the same seventeen players
Speaker 1: right throughout the series. They all went back and backed
Speaker 1: up for their club football as well, so it was
Speaker 1: a draining effort. But to go through and win three
Speaker 1: zero with the same seventeen players, Like I said, may
Speaker 1: be equaled one day, it hasn't. It may be equaled
Speaker 1: one day, but it'll never be bettered. It's one of
Speaker 1: the great Origin Series wins.
Speaker 2: We'll come back on the other side of this and
Speaker 2: have a look at round fifteen Gus Cronulla and the
Speaker 2: Dragons around fifteen the old Southern Sydney Derby, I think
Speaker 2: that's what they call it these days. And one thing
Speaker 2: I do know is that the sharkis desperately need to win.
Speaker 2: In fact, they both need to win because I can't
Speaker 2: quantify what happened to the Dragons last week.
Speaker 1: Well they just won't in it. And I'm putting that
Speaker 1: down to the quality of the Dolphins. I think the
Speaker 1: Dolphins are terrific putty to him. They're just getting better
Speaker 1: and better, and now the early part of the game,
Speaker 1: it never set up that it was going to be
Speaker 1: a fifty point win. I think that you know, Dolphins
Speaker 1: scored off a couple of kicks and the Dragons were
Speaker 1: unlucky not to score once or twice. It was kind
Speaker 1: of a little bit to and fro and tit for
Speaker 1: tad in the early stages, and you thought, well, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe whoever scores next will get the ascendancy. But then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Dolphins got a couple of tries
Speaker 1: off kicks, a couple of kickchases, and then scored again
Speaker 1: and then got out to a lead at halftime. The
Speaker 1: second half, they just never let the Dragons in it whatsoever,
Speaker 1: and Dragons capitulated. It was a bad sign for the Dragons,
Speaker 1: but we've seen them do that before. We've seen them
Speaker 1: get beaten by big scores and bounce back the next
Speaker 1: week and win. And there'll be nothing more than the
Speaker 1: local derby to probably bring the best out on them,
Speaker 1: and the fact that they have got their backs to
Speaker 1: the wall. They need to win. They're up against the
Speaker 1: Sharks team that you know, there's not as other're going
Speaker 1: terribly to Sharks where are they on the ladder. They're
Speaker 1: only on I think or seven wins or something or other.
Speaker 1: They're not that pretty ordinary. Yeah, but then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, I don't think they've ever at
Speaker 1: any stage this season shown us their very best form. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that they're having their own struggles at the moment
Speaker 1: as well. I think that in this game, it's it's
Speaker 1: hard to predict. Neither side is really that battered around
Speaker 1: by by origin representation.
Speaker 2: It's just fell in the origin.
Speaker 1: Out of the out of the the Dragon's team. I
Speaker 1: just think they're struggling, probably for direction and probably for well,
Speaker 1: there's a few things. I think their forwards are playing
Speaker 1: well enough. Look, I've got to go with the Sharks.
Speaker 1: I can't see the Sharks losing this game, but right
Speaker 1: at the moment, they need some confidence. So they've had
Speaker 1: seven wins, they've won more than they've lost seven seven
Speaker 1: wins and six losses. They're they're sitting there in fifth
Speaker 1: position and haven't been anywhere near their best, not anywhere
Speaker 1: near the best at any stage of the season. We
Speaker 1: could put a lot of that down to the early
Speaker 1: season travel. I mean they went to Vegas, they went
Speaker 1: to Townsville. They played a lot of away games. Seven
Speaker 1: wins is not terrible in this competition when you compare
Speaker 1: it to the rest of them, and they're running fifth
Speaker 1: out of seventeen and I think they're pretty much assured
Speaker 1: of finals appearances again, which is a good result. But
Speaker 1: we still haven't seen their absolute best. If they produced
Speaker 1: their best, they'll beat the Dragon and I think that's
Speaker 1: the way. We'll tip down there at the Bermuda Triangle
Speaker 1: on Thursday night to open the round.
Speaker 2: You'll seat on nine from seven to thirty. Friday Night
Speaker 2: football also from seven to thirty from SeaBus super Stadium.
Speaker 2: The Titans without Tino and Moaki Photo waker up against
Speaker 2: Manly with Turbo and Talky.
Speaker 1: Ajo back in yeah and Cherry Evans and probably a
Speaker 1: game they expected they wouldn't be without their half back
Speaker 1: in captain. But he's there and Tom Traboovitch back and
Speaker 1: he's seen we have shaken off now the injuries for
Speaker 1: the last couple of that he's had in the last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and an only Goli Kawatu was still there.
Speaker 1: He didn't make the side. Jake Taboyvich is there. When
Speaker 1: they looked at the drawer. At the start of the season,
Speaker 1: they probably thought this was a game where they'd be
Speaker 1: missing a number of their stars, but they're all there
Speaker 1: for this game, which I think is a huge advantage
Speaker 1: for them and the Titans. Again another disappointing result last week.
Speaker 1: They're two big forwards are out. It's hard to see
Speaker 1: them turning it around against the Seagulls. He'll be desperate
Speaker 1: for a win, so I'm going to go manly in
Speaker 1: that game.
Speaker 2: Five point thirty Saturday eight, Newcastle hosts the Roosters. Carden
Speaker 2: Potter is in the Queensland team, so Fletcher Sharp's playing
Speaker 2: fullback and Jackson Hastings will play. Five eight. Matt Croker
Speaker 2: goes to prop because Tyson Frazzelle's out is out with concussion.
Speaker 2: I think they've got six front rollers out at the moment.
Speaker 2: They're really bare bones up front. Newcastle. On the flip side,
Speaker 2: Sam Walker comes back to play his first game since
Speaker 2: round twenty six last year. He returned to the New
Speaker 2: South Wales Cup last week. John Young comes in on
Speaker 2: the win. Marky Mark goes to the centers to cover
Speaker 2: for Robert Toyer and the Faro White and Nat Butcher
Speaker 2: come back as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think for Sam Walker to play New South
Speaker 1: Wales Cup last week, it was just to get him
Speaker 1: out there and get a sweat up and feel a
Speaker 1: bit of a bump and bruise and get him into
Speaker 1: the flow of playing. It was a one off. He
Speaker 1: wasn't out to do a lot. It was a bit
Speaker 1: like a horse having a barrier troll and he just
Speaker 1: went around at his own pace and got back into
Speaker 1: the swing of things. And they've seen to bring him
Speaker 1: straight in. Interesting that their news they put Hugo and Go
Speaker 1: go to five A, Hugo Zava to five A and
Speaker 1: sand and Smith has gone back to the bench. Now
Speaker 1: I find that surprising. Nevertheless, I'm not in the camp
Speaker 1: and I'm not the coach, and we assume that he
Speaker 1: knows best looking at the two teams and how they're going.
Speaker 1: The last time that games were Origin affected, the Knights
Speaker 1: beat the Panthers, but the Panthers were obviously very heavily
Speaker 1: affected by Origin representation. But there'll be a good feel
Speaker 1: coming out of that group. Jackson Hasting coming back in
Speaker 1: and he's playing the nominating in your number six. I
Speaker 1: think he'll be doing most of the directing in the game,
Speaker 1: and that could bring them to light a little bit
Speaker 1: more to you there. You could player that Fletcher Sharp.
Speaker 2: He's a aig player.
Speaker 1: He's a really good player, and he's a dynamic fullback. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I can't see anything but a rooster in there.
Speaker 2: North Queensland versus the Dolphins seven point thirty Saturday night.
Speaker 2: The Dolphins decimated with origin representation, didn't cottter Nane Robson
Speaker 2: all in Origin, John Bateman and Villiami Vallea are suspended. Gee,
Speaker 2: that's a big, big whack, isn't it. From last week. D'alongey,
Speaker 2: O'Donnell and Talmolalo all come back from injury, so that
Speaker 2: offsets those losses to a degree, but probably not. And
Speaker 2: Jake Avule goes to fallback. Max Fine goes to the
Speaker 2: centers with the hammer in origin. Camp Ray stones back
Speaker 2: from his shoulder injury on the bench for the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: During Origin one when teams were Origin affected. The Dolphins
Speaker 1: had a big win over the Bulldogs, who were also
Speaker 1: Origin affected and had a lot of players out, but
Speaker 1: it was still a really good performance. I think the
Speaker 1: Dolphins have just got too many points and on pretty
Speaker 1: much other than the Sharks, I'm tipping all the away
Speaker 1: teams here. But I think the Dolphins are on a roll.
Speaker 1: I think they'll be very very hard to beat, and
Speaker 1: this winning again without Hamaso and these players is just
Speaker 1: going to be another another confidence builder for them. I
Speaker 1: think the Dolphins will beat the Cowboy.
Speaker 2: Then Sunday footy four o'clock Rabbit o versus Bulldogs. This
Speaker 2: is from a Core stadium. Joe Gray is playing fullback
Speaker 2: for Latreil. Jaden Sullivan's playing five eighth because Cardi Walker
Speaker 2: is injured again. Jamie Humphreys is going to play half back.
Speaker 2: He was pushed at the bench last week and Campbell
Speaker 2: Graham's on the reserves bench. He's looking to come back
Speaker 2: from back spasms, but hopefully for South City they'll get
Speaker 2: him back. Lucky gal One's going to start at five
Speaker 2: eight with Matt Burton the designated A. He has the
Speaker 2: world record for most appearances is eighteenth man for New
Speaker 2: South Wales.
Speaker 1: Gus He's got a number of a lot of number
Speaker 1: eighteen jerseys hanging in his wardrobe at home, none of
Speaker 1: them with any stains on them, hasn't got a grass
Speaker 1: staying on one of them the collection. He's a professional
Speaker 1: number eight. He does it for Australia, he does it
Speaker 1: for New South Wales. You know. It's it's good because
Speaker 1: we like to have our players in that environment. It's
Speaker 1: just frustrating that he goes there and doesn't get a
Speaker 1: game and the club misses out on him as well.
Speaker 1: Strangely enough, South Sydney have named Campbell Graham and an
Speaker 1: extended bench for this game. Now. We got a word
Speaker 1: on the weekend that Campbell Graham was out of the
Speaker 1: South Sydney game against the Raiders last week and was
Speaker 1: unavailable for Origin two. Yet here he is. He's poping
Speaker 1: up on the extended bench for the game this weekend
Speaker 1: against South Sydney, knowing full well that if you did
Speaker 1: go was eighteenth man in Origin too, it would probably
Speaker 1: be Matt Burton that was going to take his place.
Speaker 1: It's a nice swifty, isn't it. Anyway. It remains to
Speaker 1: be seen if he plays. But I think it's fair too.
Speaker 1: I think they should. I think they should move the
Speaker 1: eighteenth man around to help the clubs, you know. And
Speaker 1: sometimes I can't see why they can't take it from
Speaker 1: a team that's got the buy. There are plenty of
Speaker 1: teams having a buy this weekend that could provide some
Speaker 1: support for them. But by the same taken, we never
Speaker 1: begrudge Matted the opportunity to go into Origin camp and
Speaker 1: he learns more and even if he doesn't get to play,
Speaker 1: being around those great players as good for him. So
Speaker 1: we're very happy for him to be in there, and
Speaker 1: Maxi King and Kurt Man is obviously playing for Queensland
Speaker 1: and Stephen Crichton, so we've got good representation this year.
Speaker 1: It was a battle the first time around when we
Speaker 1: played without those repsides. The Dolphins had a big win
Speaker 1: that night in the wet and this will be an
Speaker 1: equally tough battle against the Rabbit this weekend. It's the
Speaker 1: Rabbit game, even though it's played today Course Stadium. Earlier
Speaker 1: this year on Good Friday, this game attracted sixty five
Speaker 1: thousand fans, had a new attendance record. So hopefully both
Speaker 1: sets of fans get out to support these two teams
Speaker 1: on the weekend for the Rabbit O' home game and
Speaker 1: that's on Channel nine from three o'clock on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Yes, so let me run through these tad betting onds.
Speaker 2: So Sharks are dollar thirty, Dragons at three fifty for
Speaker 2: Thursday Night.
Speaker 1: There we're going to go Shark Titans.
Speaker 2: Three fifty dollars thirty Friday Night, Sea Egull Night's two
Speaker 2: seventy five, Russ dollar forty five, Saturday five thirty, Rooster
Speaker 2: Saturday Night, Dolphin's dollar fifty three, Cowboys two fifty, Dolphin
Speaker 2: and Southsat two ninety and the Bulldogs are a dollar
Speaker 2: at forty two and putting their feet up this weekend
Speaker 2: Brisbane Para Penrith Camera who. I've got to say, they've
Speaker 2: been absolutely brilliant, the Raiders, but you put it in
Speaker 2: in even more context. They haven't had a buy yet
Speaker 2: and they've traveled. They've basically traversed the whole face of
Speaker 2: planet Earth. It's an amazing effort.
Speaker 1: I was just looking at some figures. One of the
Speaker 1: factors that we look at for team performances is how
Speaker 1: many players you've used in your games so far during
Speaker 1: the course of a season. I was looking at how
Speaker 1: many players at the midpoint of the season, how many
Speaker 1: players each team has used. The team that's used the
Speaker 1: most players of any team in the competition is paramatteriels
Speaker 1: they've used thirty one players in their NRL program this year,
Speaker 1: so obviously in the early part of the year with
Speaker 1: some injuries and searching for new combinations and trying new
Speaker 1: players in the top side. They've settled down on it
Speaker 1: because their last month of football have been terrific. They
Speaker 1: built at Newcastle, they builded Manly, they went very close
Speaker 1: to breeding Penrith and they put in astellar performance against
Speaker 1: the Bulldogs on the weekend. So Paramatter Reels have used
Speaker 1: the most thirty one, Panthers have used twenty eight, some
Speaker 1: of that through origin representation. Obviously they've had their problems.
Speaker 1: Newcastle Knights, Gold Coast Titans and the Bulldogs have used
Speaker 1: twenty seven. So that's still a large number of players
Speaker 1: to be using at this stage of the season. At
Speaker 1: the midpoint of the season, Paramatta thirty one, Penrith twenty eight,
Speaker 1: Newcastle Titans and Bulldogs on twenty seven. Then on twenty
Speaker 1: six we've got West Tigers, Dragons, Melbourne Storm and Manly
Speaker 1: and even twenty six is getting up there. Twenty five Roosters,
Speaker 1: Rabbits and Warriors. Dolphins have used twenty five, Broncos have
Speaker 1: used twenty five, North Queensland have used twenty four, Sharks
Speaker 1: have only used twenty three and the canber Raiders, who
Speaker 1: have won more games than anyone have used the least
Speaker 1: number of players. They haven't twenty three, so that's one
Speaker 1: of the reasons why they're in such great form. And
Speaker 1: they've been able to get through the first their first
Speaker 1: eleven games without loss with or their first thirteen games
Speaker 1: with how many they played thirteen or fourteen now fourteen fourteen,
Speaker 1: fourteen games they've played there one eleven and they're won
Speaker 1: more games than the other team in the competition, but
Speaker 1: they've used the least number of players of any other team.
Speaker 1: So it's interesting how that'll get to at the end
Speaker 1: of the year. Do is for all these teams will
Speaker 1: be using that number of players at the midpoint of
Speaker 1: the season. That's a high number of players.
Speaker 2: Gus, thank you for that. Look forward to be with
Speaker 2: you on Monday in Perth over in the Wild West.
Speaker 2: We'll do an Oragent preview and of course our Origin
Speaker 2: Excursively live on nine seven pm next Wednesday. Enjoy the
Speaker 2: rest of your week.