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Speaker 1: Nine podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to six Tackles with Gus. Thanks to the tab.

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Speaker 2: Great to be with you for another week. I'm in Adelaide,

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Speaker 2: Phil gold is in Sydney. Good morning, Gus.

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Speaker 1: Matthew Thompson. How are you doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing well. Are you going well?

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Speaker 1: I'm going good. You had a late night, did you?

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Speaker 2: They're all late nights when the swimming starts. Yes.

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Speaker 1: Have you enjoyed it?

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Speaker 2: It's been good. Yes, it's been good. First couple of

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Speaker 2: days out of the way. We've got a bunch of

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Speaker 2: swimmers already booked to go to Singapore for the World Champs,

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Speaker 2: so it's been great swimming. A bit of drama. Did

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Speaker 2: you see what happened with Katie McKellen on the first day?

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Speaker 1: No, I didn't see that.

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Speaker 2: Well, she had a false start in the heats of

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Speaker 2: the fifty backstrope. She was disqualified and then she appealed

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Speaker 2: and they put her back in the race and she

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Speaker 2: ended up winning on the first night.

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Speaker 1: So, craigy, we thought they have trouble with their judiciary.

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Speaker 2: The Matter Review Panel. Yes, yes, you had a didn't

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Speaker 2: you have an incident with a matter of view panel

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Speaker 2: this week?

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Speaker 1: Did you?

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Speaker 2: Did you go in there this week or.

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Speaker 1: Are you no, I didn't go in. I didn't go

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Speaker 1: in Billy Army kick out. I got off his charge,

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Speaker 1: which we might talk about later, because he was penalized,

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Speaker 1: he was sin binned. He was charged by the Match

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Speaker 1: Review Committee only to go down to judiciary and they

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Speaker 1: threw it out straight away. So it makes you wonder

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Speaker 1: why he was panelized on the weekend and sinbin which

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Speaker 1: are both very big penalties during the course of a game.

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Speaker 1: We see that quite often. All I was conceded to

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Speaker 1: try while he was off the field. He didn't deserve

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Speaker 1: to be off the field, and that was later proven

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Speaker 1: that the judiciary. And it just goes to show again

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Speaker 1: that our system is flawed, that our referees, our bunker,

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Speaker 1: our match review committee and our judiciary are way too,

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Speaker 1: way too harsh in this game. And I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's fair on the players, and I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: fair on the game itself. But more about that another time.

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Speaker 1: I think that's pretty fair comment.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's do some yes no questions to get

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Speaker 2: going this morning. Adam O'Brien's comments about the Newcastle Knights

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Speaker 2: fans at the weekend was overstepping the mark. Gus.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I guess in hindsight he realized that he

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Speaker 1: probably said the wrong thing, But I can understand the

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Speaker 1: emotion and everything that was going through him at the time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was an incredible victory by the Newcastle Knights.

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Speaker 1: They were down by a big score at halftime, and

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Speaker 1: there were a section of the fans that did show

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Speaker 1: their displeasure as the players left the field. Whether they're

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Speaker 1: showing their displeasure at the players themselves or just where

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Speaker 1: Newcastle is at the moment, I don't know. I think

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Speaker 1: it was raised with Adam O'Brien after the game. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure that he heard that himself, and he made

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Speaker 1: a passing comment regarding the Newcastle fans which was probably

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Speaker 1: It took another twenty four hours for him to eventually

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Speaker 1: come back and apologize for those comments. But you know,

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Speaker 1: put it down to a little bit of stress, put

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Speaker 1: it down to a little bit of you know, exuberance,

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Speaker 1: have such a magnificent win where they came back in

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Speaker 1: the second half to scoring golden point, and put it

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Speaker 1: down to emotion. And I think most people can understand that,

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Speaker 1: but you know, there are some things that sometimes need

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Speaker 1: to be said and other things that you know you'd

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Speaker 1: like to say, but you just bite your tongue and

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Speaker 1: move on. And at the end of the day, the

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Speaker 1: fans turn up, they pay their money, they're entitled to boo,

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Speaker 1: and if they boo, well you've got to learn something

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Speaker 1: from that or prove them wrong one or the other.

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Speaker 1: And in the end the Nights had a great win.

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Speaker 1: The easy solution is that those that were booing at

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Speaker 1: how the fortunes of rugby league change in the space.

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Speaker 1: But you know, fans are entitled to show the displeasure.

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Speaker 1: Whether they're well informed or whether they're right or wrong

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Speaker 1: is really irrelevant. They're the fans and it's up to

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Speaker 1: It was an extraordinary weekend of rugby league. Really when

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Speaker 1: you really think about I know we're in yes now

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Speaker 1: at the moment, but the weekend started with that magnificent

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Speaker 1: Calm Pongers scoring in the first session of Golden Point.

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Speaker 1: You know, the next night Melbourne Storm. They showed us

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Speaker 1: again why they're probably Premiership favorites with a big win

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Speaker 1: over the Cowboys that just gave them no chance at all.

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Speaker 1: The Dolphins and what a great football team this is.

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Speaker 1: They were brilliant in their performance, absolutely putting the Dragons

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Speaker 1: to the sword by fifty points. There's such a great

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Speaker 1: attacking football team and they've got plenty of upside too.

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Speaker 1: The Warriors outstanding performance over the Sharks, like outstanding. Sharks

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Speaker 1: were favored in that game. And I think we said

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Speaker 1: last week, I think the market is wrong, you know,

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Speaker 1: but the Sharks just at the moment can't quite get

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Speaker 1: their act together, and the Warriors really are. They're just

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Speaker 1: motoring along it moment. The Broncos, well there's two of them,

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Speaker 1: isn't there, Trichy, they just see caps from the very

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Speaker 1: first set of six. They just showed again what talent

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Speaker 1: that they've got. The Raiders, you know, consummate professionals. Again,

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Speaker 1: on a big day for Josh Papali setting his record.

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Speaker 1: The Panthers and the West Tigers was a great game

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Speaker 1: of footy, real struggle for both sides and high quality

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Speaker 1: and really belied their positions on the ladder the quality

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Speaker 1: a big crowd, another big crowd at their Course stadium

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Speaker 1: on Sunday in wet and cold conditions to support the

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Speaker 1: Bulldogs in their victory over the Eels. So an amazing weekend,

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Speaker 1: some big score lines, some dominant victories, and some concerns

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Speaker 1: for a number of teams that are on the end

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Speaker 1: of those big score lines. The original question was, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Adam O'Brien probably would like to he did those comments

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Speaker 1: back anyway, but experience might handle that a little bit

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Speaker 2: Just on your recap there of the games at the weekend.

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Speaker 2: I actually my ears pricked up last week because you

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Speaker 2: mentioned how wide open the compies and one thing he

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Speaker 2: said was the Dolphins could get on a run. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: the Dolphins. What are you seeing in the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: Well, they're a strong side. I know they've just lost

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Speaker 1: but they've got great depth in that area. They had

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Speaker 1: And they fear no one. That was a big win

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Speaker 1: over They gave the Dragons no chance the other night.

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Speaker 1: They just absolutely got them from the first minute of

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Speaker 1: Dolphins as a football team, not only for the rest

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Speaker 2: Question number two. Ky Peers Paul is a great acquisition

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Speaker 2: for the West Tigers.

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Speaker 1: He is. He's a real talent. I actually interviewed Ky

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Speaker 1: Peers Paul a few years ago by Zoom he and

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Speaker 1: he's I think his parents he was over in England.

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Speaker 1: a big offer from the Newcastle Knights to go up there.

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Speaker 1: It was an offer based on potential and it was

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Speaker 1: quite a gamble. And having gone through the heartache of

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Speaker 1: they've lost him to the West Tigers. I think that's

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Speaker 1: a big loss for Newcastle. It's a huge game for

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Speaker 1: the West Tigers. He's a quality player and he's still

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Speaker 1: only learning the game. He's still only finding himself. I

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Speaker 1: don't think the Knights have really learned how to play

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Speaker 1: with him. Or He's played a little bit of football

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Speaker 1: It seems he can play both sides of the field

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Speaker 1: I don't think his career has started yet. For Newcastle,

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Speaker 1: there for a couple of seasons, to be losing him

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Speaker 1: now is now it's a bit of a quandary because

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Speaker 1: good get for the West Tigers and I can see

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Speaker 1: him playing alongside Jerome Lewie there and Jerome will have

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Speaker 1: I think he's a really good young player.

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Speaker 2: My understanding is that they've basically said to him you

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Speaker 2: can go because the salary cap pressure they find themselves

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Speaker 2: under with respect to the Dylan Brown signing. But watching

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Speaker 2: Newcastle we call quite a few other games this year,

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Speaker 2: I get frustrated that they don't seem to know how

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Speaker 2: to use this kid, like he's got massive arms and

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Speaker 2: he's a proficient offloader. You could base your attack around that.

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Speaker 2: He's so talented with his ball play. He's a bit

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Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, Well, the Knights are struggling in attack everywhere.

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Speaker 1: They're struggling for direction, they're struggling to get the ball

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Speaker 1: to their strike players, and they've had a numb of

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Speaker 1: games this year where they've really failed to trouble the

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Speaker 1: score the scorer at all. You know, they can't seem

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Speaker 1: to get it together. They've got one of the great

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Speaker 1: attacking forces in the game and Kayleb Ponger who just

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Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be able to get the ball when

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Speaker 1: he wants it, how he needs it and to do

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Speaker 1: what he needs to do with it. And Kyle Pispaul

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Speaker 1: probably suffering from that, and you know they need to

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Speaker 1: get that worked out. I noticed that they've put Jackson

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Speaker 1: Hastings back in the side this week, which will solve

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Speaker 1: two of the problems in attack. I think there are

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Speaker 1: three elements to your attack, which is your direction, your

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Speaker 1: delivery and your play direction where the set of six

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Speaker 1: is going to head and what points on the field

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Speaker 1: you're going to hit. The delivery of how you're going

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Speaker 1: to get the ball to your strike players, and then

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Speaker 1: the players that they come up with, but without the

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Speaker 1: direction and the delivery, the players don't matter. The direction

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Speaker 1: often over the past couple of seasons looking for a solution,

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Speaker 1: You know. I'm so determined to keep getting that message

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Speaker 2: Okay, Origin seven days away today. We're going to do

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Speaker 2: turn the game inside out today. But a few top

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Speaker 2: line questions. Cameron Munster the new Queensland captain. A few

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Speaker 2: I actually think it's an inspired decision.

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Speaker 1: What about you, Yeah, well it is. He is probably

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Speaker 1: He certainly is. But my question was, well, what happens

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Speaker 1: I think it's an inspired choice. I think it'll help

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Speaker 1: be honest, there was really no one else. There was

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's interesting, but there's a number of club captains

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Speaker 2: As you mentioned, Caln Pong has captain of Newcastle. So

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Speaker 1: I think the captain's got to be an eighty minute

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Speaker 1: probably just not one that I would have made at

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Speaker 2: Supposed to it and isn't going to sit back and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I don't think that come from the halves.

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Speaker 1: is no getting away from that. You know, Tom Didden

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Speaker 1: You know, he's you know, he's experienced and he's professional.

434
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Speaker 1: He will handle the fact. Well, okay, maybe we weren't

435
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 1: good enough this year where they're now thrusting. Tom didn't

436
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 1: into this situation without I don't think improving what the

437
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 1: real problem was from game one. So if Tom did

438
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 1: and as a rookie comes in behind a beaten forward pack,

439
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 1: if they get monster the same way as they did

440
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 1: in Game two and three, well I don't think Tom

441
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,159
Speaker 1: didn't can help them, and what does that do to

442
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 1: his development? And his confidence at this level. I think

443
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 1: this was really Cherry Evans. You know, if the ship

444
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 1: was going to go down, they had to take the

445
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 1: captain down with them. I don't think that changing the

446
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 1: halfback is going to change their fortunes unless the forwards

447
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: stand up, and Queensland need their forwards to stand up.

448
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: Now it could happen. I mean they've made some changes,

449
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 1: They've put Carrigan back to the bench, and I fully

450
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 1: suspect that Harry Grant won't start the game. I think

451
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: the Kurkman will and they'll try to get on the

452
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 1: front foot early. And the early parts of this game

453
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 1: could be completely differ friend Dean bar in Perth. They

454
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: could get a couple of penalties, you know, there could

455
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 1: be a couple of hia's. There could be anything happens

456
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: in this opening stands and against Queensland into the contest

457
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 1: and then it's a completely different game. But what we

458
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 1: saw in game one was obvious. Blind Freddie could see

459
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 1: what was happening in game one and Queensland just were

460
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: never in it. The only try they scored was against

461
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: twelve men with an unfair and ridiculous sin bidding, which

462
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 1: should never have happened in State of Origin football, and

463
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 1: that was the only time they looked dangerous in the

464
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: game was when New South Wales were vulnerable down to

465
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Speaker 1: twelve men. Other than that, New South Wales completely controlled them.

466
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: So I don't know that Tom did And can turn

467
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: that around on his own no matter how well he plays.

468
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,199
Speaker 1: They're forwards have got to waim up and that'll be

469
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 1: the whole focus of their week. Surely to give Tom

470
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: did and Cameron Munster a platform on which to play.

471
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: It might sound a bit harsh, but you know, if

472
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: Game two and Game three games the second and same

473
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 1: aay as Game one, then I think Cherry Evans was

474
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 1: the one that that needed to go down with the

475
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 1: ship rather than bringing a rookie in to play that position.

476
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 2: What about the Blues Steady as she goes really obviously

477
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 2: a force change with Bitch Barnett. But Stefano comes in

478
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 2: on the bench and Max King's going to start, so

479
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 2: they get to pick up where they left off.

480
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: It's good for good for Max to get a start.

481
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: Neil handle that really well. It really has been steady.

482
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,719
Speaker 1: I think Stefano's got the nod because he was in

483
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: camp for Game one and had trained with them, so

484
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: they've tried to keep it as familiar as possible. I

485
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: think Keon Kalamtungi is very unlucky not to be picked

486
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: in this game. I think his club form has been outstanding,

487
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: and you know, if there's another injury or what have you.

488
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: Leading into game three, I think he should be a

489
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: four runner there. But Stefano, he's been in this group before.

490
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: He understands the landscape very well. He trained with them

491
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,239
Speaker 1: for round one. They had a good win, they had

492
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 1: a dominant win. If they can learn out of game

493
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 1: one from winning, if they can take it to another level,

494
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: they're going to make it extremely hard for Coin then

495
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 1: extremely hard. I personally, I think they'll win handsomely. I

496
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 1: think they'll be They'll be too good again. But Origin

497
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: is a funny beast. It doesn't take much at the

498
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: start of the game for the game to tilt in

499
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: the other direction. I can tell you. So the opening stands.

500
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: They need to be strong, if not stronger than what

501
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: they were. I think they can be a little more

502
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: adventurous than what they were, a little less can conservative.

503
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: I don't think they can just rely that Game one

504
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 1: will be repeated In the opening stands. They've got to

505
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: go out and earn it. But I'm sure they will too.

506
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: They're professional footballers. They understand it. Coaches know what they're doing.

507
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: I think they're extremely hard to be. It's a good

508
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: looking team to.

509
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: Me, Gus. We've got a new sponsor on six tackles

510
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Speaker 2: with Gas and responsor State of Origin. They've jumped on

511
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 2: board and part of the deal is going to pay

512
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: your fuel bill.

513
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: My field bill. Yeah, I will send them broke riding.

514
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 2: So the Ampole Power surch is brought to you by

515
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: Amphole Powering, Australia's own sporting nation. We're going to do

516
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Speaker 2: a top three power Players every week and the question

517
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 2: this week is which three players do you think will

518
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: have the biggest impact on Game two of the Origin Series?

519
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: Game two?

520
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 2: Yep?

521
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: Which three players?

522
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah?

523
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: Okay, Game two. The three players that I think will

524
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: have the most impact are Payne hass A Ciao and

525
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: Nathan Cleary. I think I think paynehass and a SiO

526
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 1: said Dave and Mitch Barnett did his job too, and

527
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: so did Angus Crichton and they are all good the

528
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: new South Wales forward. But I thought in particular payn

529
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: hess was dominant and he always is. He's always very

530
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: active and he has a lot of runs and a

531
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: lot of tackles and he was terrific. The CIEO has

532
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: learned that Origin is not club football, the club football

533
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,959
Speaker 1: that he brought to Origin in previous years. I think

534
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 1: Queensland did a good job of handling, so he had

535
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: less passing. Was a great runner at the ball. He's

536
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 1: got a big frame and a left foot step and

537
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: very very strong and he put the passing away in

538
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 1: this game. And they played it more like an Origin

539
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,959
Speaker 1: structure than just bringing their club football to the Origin stage.

540
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 1: And I think that helped Cleary in particular as well.

541
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: It was harder for Queensland to contend with and I

542
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: think those two players were extremely impressive for me. I

543
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: thought they were the best two players in the first

544
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: half hour play in Paynhassen a sieo, and then off

545
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: the back of that, I thought Cleary had his best

546
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: ever Origin. I'd mixed reports people talking about Nathan clearing

547
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 1: what he did, but I think Nathan Cleary too has

548
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: learned that it's not club football and he plays a

549
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 1: different way and I thought he was really good in

550
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: that game. He had a huge number of runs. He

551
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: made people misstackles, he got some offloads, he had a

552
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: hand in all the tries that they scored. I thought

553
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: it was his best origin and I think he'll only

554
00:27:59,000 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: get better.

555
00:27:59,440 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 2: Out of that.

556
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: And this is a really really good New South Wales team,

557
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: really good New South Wales team, and I'm not just

558
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: saying that, I think. I think it's a really good side.

559
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 1: They won last year's series and I think they'll They're

560
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: going to back it up and win this series and

561
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: they'll close it out in Perth and then come back

562
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: to Sydney looking for a whitewash. But if you want

563
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 1: your top three players, the power players in this game,

564
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: has Yo Cleary would be my three.

565
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: Well, the first two are certainly very powerful. I was

566
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 2: actually having a look when we sort of spoke spontaneously

567
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 2: the other week about the ninety five series. I had

568
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: a look at the ninety six series, which New South

569
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: Wales won three nil, which no one really talks too

570
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: much about it.

571
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: We don't talk about that one, but you went.

572
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: Through the whole series at the same seventeen.

573
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's never been done before and had never been

574
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: done since. I don't think well, I'm not sure if

575
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: my team's gone through the whole series of seventeen players,

576
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: but no one's won at three nil. I think, go

577
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: through a series with the same seventeen players and win

578
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: three nil. I said, it may be equaled at some stage,

579
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: but it can never be better. You don't get any

580
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: better than that. In those days. There was no eight

581
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: eighth man either. We didn't need another one on the bench.

582
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: I think by Game three a couple of the players

583
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,479
Speaker 1: played with injury. We had the series one and they

584
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: sort of came in and played with injury because they

585
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: just wanted to be a part of history. To win

586
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: three nil and with the same seventeen players, they are

587
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: a special group, a really good footy team.

588
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: And not only that, the Super League players were actually

589
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: eligible to play that year for Queensland, so the Langers

590
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: and you know, all the other superstars with it.

591
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: Or we turned back to normal the following year. Yeah, yeah, no,

592
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: that was a good side. I think Game three was

593
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: at lang Park. We might have won fifteen fourteen or

594
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: something like that, or I can't remember the exact score.

595
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: We won by a point. I think Brad Fitler kicked

596
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: a field goal early in the second half and then

597
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: Queensland came back and we had to hang on to

598
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: win it. But we won the first two games pretty

599
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: well and then the last game was a battle. But

600
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: as I say, we played with the same seventeen players

601
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: right throughout the series. They all went back and backed

602
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: up for their club football as well, so it was

603
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: a draining effort. But to go through and win three

604
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: zero with the same seventeen players, Like I said, may

605
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: be equaled one day, it hasn't. It may be equaled

606
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: one day, but it'll never be bettered. It's one of

607
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: the great Origin Series wins.

608
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: We'll come back on the other side of this and

609
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: have a look at round fifteen Gus Cronulla and the

610
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: Dragons around fifteen the old Southern Sydney Derby, I think

611
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: that's what they call it these days. And one thing

612
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: I do know is that the sharkis desperately need to win.

613
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: In fact, they both need to win because I can't

614
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 2: quantify what happened to the Dragons last week.

615
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: Well they just won't in it. And I'm putting that

616
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: down to the quality of the Dolphins. I think the

617
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: Dolphins are terrific putty to him. They're just getting better

618
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: and better, and now the early part of the game,

619
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: it never set up that it was going to be

620
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: a fifty point win. I think that you know, Dolphins

621
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: scored off a couple of kicks and the Dragons were

622
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: unlucky not to score once or twice. It was kind

623
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: of a little bit to and fro and tit for

624
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: tad in the early stages, and you thought, well, you know,

625
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: maybe whoever scores next will get the ascendancy. But then

626
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Dolphins got a couple of tries

627
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: off kicks, a couple of kickchases, and then scored again

628
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: and then got out to a lead at halftime. The

629
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: second half, they just never let the Dragons in it whatsoever,

630
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: and Dragons capitulated. It was a bad sign for the Dragons,

631
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: but we've seen them do that before. We've seen them

632
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: get beaten by big scores and bounce back the next

633
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: week and win. And there'll be nothing more than the

634
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: local derby to probably bring the best out on them,

635
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: and the fact that they have got their backs to

636
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: the wall. They need to win. They're up against the

637
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: Sharks team that you know, there's not as other're going

638
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: terribly to Sharks where are they on the ladder. They're

639
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: only on I think or seven wins or something or other.

640
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: They're not that pretty ordinary. Yeah, but then all of

641
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, I don't think they've ever at

642
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: any stage this season shown us their very best form. Yeah,

643
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: so that they're having their own struggles at the moment

644
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: as well. I think that in this game, it's it's

645
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: hard to predict. Neither side is really that battered around

646
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: by by origin representation.

647
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: It's just fell in the origin.

648
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: Out of the out of the the Dragon's team. I

649
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: just think they're struggling, probably for direction and probably for well,

650
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: there's a few things. I think their forwards are playing

651
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: well enough. Look, I've got to go with the Sharks.

652
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: I can't see the Sharks losing this game, but right

653
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,959
Speaker 1: at the moment, they need some confidence. So they've had

654
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: seven wins, they've won more than they've lost seven seven

655
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: wins and six losses. They're they're sitting there in fifth

656
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: position and haven't been anywhere near their best, not anywhere

657
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: near the best at any stage of the season. We

658
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: could put a lot of that down to the early

659
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: season travel. I mean they went to Vegas, they went

660
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: to Townsville. They played a lot of away games. Seven

661
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: wins is not terrible in this competition when you compare

662
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: it to the rest of them, and they're running fifth

663
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: out of seventeen and I think they're pretty much assured

664
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: of finals appearances again, which is a good result. But

665
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: we still haven't seen their absolute best. If they produced

666
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: their best, they'll beat the Dragon and I think that's

667
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: the way. We'll tip down there at the Bermuda Triangle

668
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: on Thursday night to open the round.

669
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: You'll seat on nine from seven to thirty. Friday Night

670
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 2: football also from seven to thirty from SeaBus super Stadium.

671
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: The Titans without Tino and Moaki Photo waker up against

672
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: Manly with Turbo and Talky.

673
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: Ajo back in yeah and Cherry Evans and probably a

674
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: game they expected they wouldn't be without their half back

675
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: in captain. But he's there and Tom Traboovitch back and

676
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: he's seen we have shaken off now the injuries for

677
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: the last couple of that he's had in the last

678
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and an only Goli Kawatu was still there.

679
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: He didn't make the side. Jake Taboyvich is there. When

680
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: they looked at the drawer. At the start of the season,

681
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: they probably thought this was a game where they'd be

682
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: missing a number of their stars, but they're all there

683
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: for this game, which I think is a huge advantage

684
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: for them and the Titans. Again another disappointing result last week.

685
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: They're two big forwards are out. It's hard to see

686
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: them turning it around against the Seagulls. He'll be desperate

687
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: for a win, so I'm going to go manly in

688
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: that game.

689
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 2: Five point thirty Saturday eight, Newcastle hosts the Roosters. Carden

690
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: Potter is in the Queensland team, so Fletcher Sharp's playing

691
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: fullback and Jackson Hastings will play. Five eight. Matt Croker

692
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 2: goes to prop because Tyson Frazzelle's out is out with concussion.

693
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 2: I think they've got six front rollers out at the moment.

694
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: They're really bare bones up front. Newcastle. On the flip side,

695
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: Sam Walker comes back to play his first game since

696
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: round twenty six last year. He returned to the New

697
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: South Wales Cup last week. John Young comes in on

698
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: the win. Marky Mark goes to the centers to cover

699
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: for Robert Toyer and the Faro White and Nat Butcher

700
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 2: come back as well.

701
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think for Sam Walker to play New South

702
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: Wales Cup last week, it was just to get him

703
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: out there and get a sweat up and feel a

704
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: bit of a bump and bruise and get him into

705
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: the flow of playing. It was a one off. He

706
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: wasn't out to do a lot. It was a bit

707
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: like a horse having a barrier troll and he just

708
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: went around at his own pace and got back into

709
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: the swing of things. And they've seen to bring him

710
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: straight in. Interesting that their news they put Hugo and Go

711
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: go to five A, Hugo Zava to five A and

712
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: sand and Smith has gone back to the bench. Now

713
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:45,439
Speaker 1: I find that surprising. Nevertheless, I'm not in the camp

714
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: and I'm not the coach, and we assume that he

715
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 1: knows best looking at the two teams and how they're going.

716
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: The last time that games were Origin affected, the Knights

717
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: beat the Panthers, but the Panthers were obviously very heavily

718
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: affected by Origin representation. But there'll be a good feel

719
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: coming out of that group. Jackson Hasting coming back in

720
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: and he's playing the nominating in your number six. I

721
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: think he'll be doing most of the directing in the game,

722
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: and that could bring them to light a little bit

723
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: more to you there. You could player that Fletcher Sharp.

724
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 2: He's a aig player.

725
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: He's a really good player, and he's a dynamic fullback. Yeah.

726
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: I can't see anything but a rooster in there.

727
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 2: North Queensland versus the Dolphins seven point thirty Saturday night.

728
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 2: The Dolphins decimated with origin representation, didn't cottter Nane Robson

729
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: all in Origin, John Bateman and Villiami Vallea are suspended. Gee,

730
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 2: that's a big, big whack, isn't it. From last week. D'alongey,

731
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 2: O'Donnell and Talmolalo all come back from injury, so that

732
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 2: offsets those losses to a degree, but probably not. And

733
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 2: Jake Avule goes to fallback. Max Fine goes to the

734
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: centers with the hammer in origin. Camp Ray stones back

735
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 2: from his shoulder injury on the bench for the Dolphins.

736
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: During Origin one when teams were Origin affected. The Dolphins

737
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: had a big win over the Bulldogs, who were also

738
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: Origin affected and had a lot of players out, but

739
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: it was still a really good performance. I think the

740
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: Dolphins have just got too many points and on pretty

741
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 1: much other than the Sharks, I'm tipping all the away

742
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 1: teams here. But I think the Dolphins are on a roll.

743
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: I think they'll be very very hard to beat, and

744
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: this winning again without Hamaso and these players is just

745
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: going to be another another confidence builder for them. I

746
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: think the Dolphins will beat the Cowboy.

747
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 2: Then Sunday footy four o'clock Rabbit o versus Bulldogs. This

748
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 2: is from a Core stadium. Joe Gray is playing fullback

749
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 2: for Latreil. Jaden Sullivan's playing five eighth because Cardi Walker

750
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 2: is injured again. Jamie Humphreys is going to play half back.

751
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: He was pushed at the bench last week and Campbell

752
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: Graham's on the reserves bench. He's looking to come back

753
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: from back spasms, but hopefully for South City they'll get

754
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: him back. Lucky gal One's going to start at five

755
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 2: eight with Matt Burton the designated A. He has the

756
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: world record for most appearances is eighteenth man for New

757
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: South Wales.

758
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: Gus He's got a number of a lot of number

759
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: eighteen jerseys hanging in his wardrobe at home, none of

760
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: them with any stains on them, hasn't got a grass

761
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: staying on one of them the collection. He's a professional

762
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: number eight. He does it for Australia, he does it

763
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 1: for New South Wales. You know. It's it's good because

764
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 1: we like to have our players in that environment. It's

765
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: just frustrating that he goes there and doesn't get a

766
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: game and the club misses out on him as well.

767
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: Strangely enough, South Sydney have named Campbell Graham and an

768
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: extended bench for this game. Now. We got a word

769
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: on the weekend that Campbell Graham was out of the

770
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: South Sydney game against the Raiders last week and was

771
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: unavailable for Origin two. Yet here he is. He's poping

772
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: up on the extended bench for the game this weekend

773
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: against South Sydney, knowing full well that if you did

774
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: go was eighteenth man in Origin too, it would probably

775
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: be Matt Burton that was going to take his place.

776
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: It's a nice swifty, isn't it. Anyway. It remains to

777
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: be seen if he plays. But I think it's fair too.

778
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: I think they should. I think they should move the

779
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: eighteenth man around to help the clubs, you know. And

780
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: sometimes I can't see why they can't take it from

781
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: a team that's got the buy. There are plenty of

782
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: teams having a buy this weekend that could provide some

783
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: support for them. But by the same taken, we never

784
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: begrudge Matted the opportunity to go into Origin camp and

785
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: he learns more and even if he doesn't get to play,

786
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: being around those great players as good for him. So

787
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 1: we're very happy for him to be in there, and

788
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: Maxi King and Kurt Man is obviously playing for Queensland

789
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 1: and Stephen Crichton, so we've got good representation this year.

790
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: It was a battle the first time around when we

791
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: played without those repsides. The Dolphins had a big win

792
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: that night in the wet and this will be an

793
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: equally tough battle against the Rabbit this weekend. It's the

794
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 1: Rabbit game, even though it's played today Course Stadium. Earlier

795
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: this year on Good Friday, this game attracted sixty five

796
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 1: thousand fans, had a new attendance record. So hopefully both

797
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: sets of fans get out to support these two teams

798
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: on the weekend for the Rabbit O' home game and

799
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: that's on Channel nine from three o'clock on Sunday.

800
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: Yes, so let me run through these tad betting onds.

801
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: So Sharks are dollar thirty, Dragons at three fifty for

802
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 2: Thursday Night.

803
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 1: There we're going to go Shark Titans.

804
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 2: Three fifty dollars thirty Friday Night, Sea Egull Night's two

805
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 2: seventy five, Russ dollar forty five, Saturday five thirty, Rooster

806
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 2: Saturday Night, Dolphin's dollar fifty three, Cowboys two fifty, Dolphin

807
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: and Southsat two ninety and the Bulldogs are a dollar

808
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 2: at forty two and putting their feet up this weekend

809
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 2: Brisbane Para Penrith Camera who. I've got to say, they've

810
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: been absolutely brilliant, the Raiders, but you put it in

811
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: in even more context. They haven't had a buy yet

812
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 2: and they've traveled. They've basically traversed the whole face of

813
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 2: planet Earth. It's an amazing effort.

814
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: I was just looking at some figures. One of the

815
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: factors that we look at for team performances is how

816
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: many players you've used in your games so far during

817
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: the course of a season. I was looking at how

818
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: many players at the midpoint of the season, how many

819
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: players each team has used. The team that's used the

820
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: most players of any team in the competition is paramatteriels

821
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: they've used thirty one players in their NRL program this year,

822
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: so obviously in the early part of the year with

823
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: some injuries and searching for new combinations and trying new

824
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: players in the top side. They've settled down on it

825
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: because their last month of football have been terrific. They

826
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: built at Newcastle, they builded Manly, they went very close

827
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,479
Speaker 1: to breeding Penrith and they put in astellar performance against

828
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: the Bulldogs on the weekend. So Paramatter Reels have used

829
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: the most thirty one, Panthers have used twenty eight, some

830
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: of that through origin representation. Obviously they've had their problems.

831
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: Newcastle Knights, Gold Coast Titans and the Bulldogs have used

832
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: twenty seven. So that's still a large number of players

833
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: to be using at this stage of the season. At

834
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: the midpoint of the season, Paramatta thirty one, Penrith twenty eight,

835
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: Newcastle Titans and Bulldogs on twenty seven. Then on twenty

836
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: six we've got West Tigers, Dragons, Melbourne Storm and Manly

837
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: and even twenty six is getting up there. Twenty five Roosters,

838
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: Rabbits and Warriors. Dolphins have used twenty five, Broncos have

839
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 1: used twenty five, North Queensland have used twenty four, Sharks

840
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: have only used twenty three and the canber Raiders, who

841
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: have won more games than anyone have used the least

842
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: number of players. They haven't twenty three, so that's one

843
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: of the reasons why they're in such great form. And

844
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: they've been able to get through the first their first

845
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 1: eleven games without loss with or their first thirteen games

846
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: with how many they played thirteen or fourteen now fourteen fourteen,

847
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: fourteen games they've played there one eleven and they're won

848
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: more games than the other team in the competition, but

849
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: they've used the least number of players of any other team.

850
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: So it's interesting how that'll get to at the end

851
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: of the year. Do is for all these teams will

852
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: be using that number of players at the midpoint of

853
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: the season. That's a high number of players.

854
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 2: Gus, thank you for that. Look forward to be with

855
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 2: you on Monday in Perth over in the Wild West.

856
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: We'll do an Oragent preview and of course our Origin

857
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 2: Excursively live on nine seven pm next Wednesday. Enjoy the

858
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: rest of your week.