WEBVTT - Pets and Jets with Nathan Koch - Tue 03 Jun, 2025

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of the airways.

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<v Speaker 2>Here is my request. You don't have to play, but

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<v Speaker 2>you'll do your best. I've been listening to Sure Ray

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<v Speaker 2>and you seem lack of friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Nathan Kosh with his backing group.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes here, I had to buy them dinner tonight. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>it's getting expensive me coming in here. Yes, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>worth it. Isn't that they do so nice, don't they?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is. Everyone should have a choir, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I think so.

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<v Speaker 3>We do the deep voice thing and you can mix it,

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<v Speaker 3>match it and do all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And now here's one of the ladies. Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit different, but anyway, we try and

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<v Speaker 1>match the voices up. I think it seems to work. Marvelous.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you, Nate, I'm very well. I'm very well.

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<v Speaker 3>I uh just had a well flew to Brisbane and back. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>depending where you are, either this morning or yesterday morning. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>of course we're here and everywhere. And we get a

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<v Speaker 3>line check, a flying check every two years. And I

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<v Speaker 3>did mine and everything went okay despite all the fun

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<v Speaker 3>and games that we had. Yeah, it's good, so I'm

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<v Speaker 3>good to go for another two years.

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<v Speaker 1>I was listening, I know I'm not supposed to say this,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was listening to Kyle and Jackie. Oh what Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I listened to the podcasts of bits and pieces of

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<v Speaker 1>their show, and last week, last week, a week before,

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<v Speaker 1>they did a series of calls where they were talking

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<v Speaker 1>to air hostesses flight attendants. Sorry, yeah, there were the

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<v Speaker 1>time sign Well most of them were hostesses and there

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<v Speaker 1>was one bloke who rang in for the segment, but

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<v Speaker 1>the rest were all women and they were just talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the things that the games they play, and some

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<v Speaker 1>of them I wouldn't discuss on here, but there was

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<v Speaker 1>one that I thought was good. On international flights, a

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<v Speaker 1>flight to some of the flight attendants play a game

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<v Speaker 1>called Where's the Cheese? And they get a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of cheese while everyone's sleeping, and they put it on

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<v Speaker 1>a passenger's shoulder and then then they come back and

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<v Speaker 1>it's and then the other flight attendants have to go

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<v Speaker 1>and find the piece of cheese.

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<v Speaker 3>The things you learn, I'm here for two minutes and

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<v Speaker 3>I've already learned something.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, so now you're up the front, you're up at

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<v Speaker 1>the point were flying. The thing you don't get.

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<v Speaker 3>We miss all of that stuff. No, I've not heard

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<v Speaker 3>of that.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a good game though, isn't it Just you know sometimes,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, when we're bored we get to play ice Spy.

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<v Speaker 3>But that has.

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<v Speaker 1>Very Yeah, something beginning with this, yeah, something beginning with

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<v Speaker 1>them Moon. Yeah, with.

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<v Speaker 3>Again Sky Yeah, that's it. Monty Python Horizon. Yes, Munty

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<v Speaker 3>Python did a sketch about that, which is very funny.

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<v Speaker 3>They were playing ice Spy and then Michael Palin, who

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<v Speaker 3>plays the steward, and you know, he comes in and

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<v Speaker 3>they go, okay, well let's you know, let's let's get

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<v Speaker 3>things going. It's all a bit quiet back there, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think it was John Clees was the captain

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<v Speaker 3>and he goes, ladies and John, there is absolutely nothing

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<v Speaker 3>to worry about. Yes, And Michael Palin's looking out the door. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>they're all starting to get agitated. Now again, ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 3>the left engine is not on fire and goes on

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<v Speaker 3>along those lines and everybody starts panicking in the cabin.

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<v Speaker 3>Now wonderful. Having said that, let me say this. We

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<v Speaker 3>don't do stuff like that. No, we don't muck around

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<v Speaker 3>with people.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do when you do make announcements? Though? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you allowed to have a bit of personality.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh look, I tend not to because I have no personality,

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<v Speaker 3>but I do have a few of my colleagues that

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<v Speaker 3>are very good. But gee, I think well, as with

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<v Speaker 3>all comedy, you really have to be so very careful

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<v Speaker 3>and given that it's a professional sort of situation, one

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<v Speaker 3>needs to be very mindful. But there are those that

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<v Speaker 3>just have that happy knack of being able to say

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<v Speaker 3>funny stuff, and sadly that's not me.

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<v Speaker 1>See if I were if I was the pilot, right,

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<v Speaker 1>if I were you and you're at Tullamarine Airport in

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<v Speaker 1>Melbourne and you're heading to Perth, I'd love to just say,

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<v Speaker 1>ladies and gentlemen, just like changing plans that they were

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<v Speaker 1>heading west to go to Perth, it's going to take

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<v Speaker 1>a little longer than usual, and just do that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, yes, well most people we've done it where

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<v Speaker 3>by mistake, you know you're going to Perth and you say, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>well you know we're heading off to Sydney and whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>and you get you get no response. Nobody listens to

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<v Speaker 3>the so you can probably get away with any Many

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<v Speaker 3>many years ago, in a little airline where I used

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<v Speaker 3>to work before my current employee, I meant to say

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<v Speaker 3>you're heading east.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it works if you say we're heading west anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>just to make it sound like it's something unusual, and

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<v Speaker 3>then most people would.

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<v Speaker 1>Go, I meant to say, I've just missed, completely missing.

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<v Speaker 3>But it works the other way as well. See that's

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<v Speaker 3>the sign of a good joke that it works whether

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<v Speaker 3>you east or west. But yeah, and somebody decided they

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<v Speaker 3>were just going to do their whole pais Donald Duck.

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<v Speaker 3>No one commented, No one cared and listened anywhere. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's probably a bit of room for latitude. But no,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very mindful of not because the last thing I

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<v Speaker 3>want to do is offend anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Or yeah, now, have you ever had what happens if

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<v Speaker 1>mid flight a flight attendant knocks on your door and says,

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<v Speaker 1>we have an unruly passenger. Yes, whose job is that

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with the unruly passenger?

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<v Speaker 3>They do. The flight attendants do, and they're trained.

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<v Speaker 1>Although we're all you don't get to come down with

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<v Speaker 1>your hat on.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, no we don't. We don't get involved. We leave

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<v Speaker 3>it up to the flight attendants. And I think nowadays,

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<v Speaker 3>really since September eleven and what happened there that all

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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, We've got on a aircraft one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and eighty air marshals, yes, three passengers, and everybody's going

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<v Speaker 3>to get involved, whereas once upon a time they wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>So it has happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, because I could picture you walking down the

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<v Speaker 1>aisle with the captain's hat on and a parachute and say.

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<v Speaker 3>You have a choice.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I handled the situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we don't have people are sitting down off do

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<v Speaker 3>we have parachutes? And no, we don't have parachutes, of

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<v Speaker 3>course not, but well one I'm not going to say,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, it's no. No, we have to leave it

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<v Speaker 3>to the flight attendants. We leave it to the cabin

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<v Speaker 3>crew to deal with everything and they will enlist help

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<v Speaker 3>or people will be will be helpful. And there was

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<v Speaker 3>a few years ago, I mean it was all over

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<v Speaker 3>the media. It's no secret about someone coming back from Bali,

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<v Speaker 3>what is it about Bali and was absolutely off their

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<v Speaker 3>head with something, and it took They had some army

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<v Speaker 3>personnel on board and they got involved as well, and

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<v Speaker 3>they had to keep this person subdued because for the

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<v Speaker 3>whole flight, and it wasn't long after take off, this

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<v Speaker 3>person was just absolutely off their head for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 3>be it mental health issue or some sort of chemical

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<v Speaker 3>and they had to basically sit on them and keep

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<v Speaker 3>them subdued for the whole flight to get them in.

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<v Speaker 3>And they were going to diverting where there were reasons

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<v Speaker 3>why they didn't. They did a great job. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they had to keep this person under control. And we're

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<v Speaker 3>look them in the loo or some well, because we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to throw themselves around and do that. That's how

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<v Speaker 3>bad it was. So they essentially just had to just

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<v Speaker 3>hold hold them down for the whole flight. Wow. And

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<v Speaker 3>this person just had unlimited energy just just continue to

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<v Speaker 3>thresh around and be a danger to themselves and to

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<v Speaker 3>everyone around.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. So but as the pilot, you get to just

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<v Speaker 1>turn the radio up and keep the door locked.

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<v Speaker 3>We do, we do, indeed. But no, they're very well

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<v Speaker 3>trained and that's what they do. And you know, our

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<v Speaker 3>job is to fly the aeroplane and make sure we

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<v Speaker 3>get everybody back on the ground safely, and we leave

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<v Speaker 3>it to those behind the door to deal with what

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<v Speaker 3>they have to deal with.

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<v Speaker 1>I've just never understood. You see social media posts and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff of people going getting angry on off float about

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<v Speaker 1>irrelevant stuff. You know, they're they're putting their bag above

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<v Speaker 1>my seat in the overhead locker. It shouldn't be above

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<v Speaker 1>my seat, and getting angry about it. You just do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be thrown off the plane?

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<v Speaker 3>Is We're happy to oblige when people behave like that,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've had to do that a few times, But

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<v Speaker 3>generally I think it's that people might be nervous fliers

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<v Speaker 3>or stressed about where they're going, why they're going, that

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<v Speaker 3>sort of thing, and they just behave inappropriately because they've

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<v Speaker 3>just got all this tension and they're all wound up,

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<v Speaker 3>and so they let it out in an inappropriate manner.

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<v Speaker 1>But how many flights do you do each week? On average? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Very so, can be anything up to twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and like on probably on almost every flight, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>ever happened. No, there's very little. Noah has ever.

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<v Speaker 3>What do they say? Our job is ours of sheer

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<v Speaker 3>board and punctuated by moments of sheer terrors.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one double three six nine three or one double

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<v Speaker 1>three eight eighty two. If you want to call in,

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<v Speaker 1>Nathan costUS here for a while, looking forward to taking

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<v Speaker 1>your calls, and he is as well as talking airline stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what I generally talk about with Nathan. He

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<v Speaker 1>is also a qualified VET, so he's got an enormous

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<v Speaker 1>brain and you can quiz him on all manner of things.

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<v Speaker 3>If you build me up too much, we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>let people down.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I could if I spent the next ten years

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<v Speaker 1>of my life, I could never qualify to be a

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<v Speaker 1>VET or a pilot litt alone both you could do both. No,

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<v Speaker 1>put your mind to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Ten years done. No, I'll start training tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Jay and I were talking earlier off here about the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff goes in one ear and out the other with us.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've passed the age of learning. I don't take

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<v Speaker 1>anything in anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's, as someone once pointed out, it's because as

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<v Speaker 3>you get older, your brain becomes full, so that when

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<v Speaker 3>one piece of information goes in, it pushes something else out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And the trouble is you don't know what's been pushed

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<v Speaker 3>out until you need.

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<v Speaker 1>It, until you get What gets pushed out every day

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<v Speaker 1>for me is where I put my car keys.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's why they have these whistling ALARMI things for

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<v Speaker 3>car keys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and air tag things as well, just in case

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<v Speaker 1>you've left them in the car. Exactly a break and

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<v Speaker 1>back with your calls. Oh they're coming through now. I

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<v Speaker 1>got on your Lenen, Peter and others. We can see

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<v Speaker 1>the lines wringing there with you all. Very soon we're back.

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<v Speaker 1>Nathan Kosch is here, and Nathan was about to ask

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<v Speaker 1>me a question. Is that for an air or off?

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<v Speaker 3>It's just it's it's it's nothing. It would be too

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<v Speaker 3>boring for Annie. It's going to be boring enough off it,

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<v Speaker 3>but not just I'll ask you in the next break.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we've got Len, Peter and Arthur. If you'll hang

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<v Speaker 1>on just a moment. Guys, Jay, you've managed to find

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<v Speaker 1>that Monty Python sketch that that we were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>just a little earlier. Yeah, ready, ready to roll. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's have a listen.

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<v Speaker 5>I spy with minded lie Something beginning with sky high.

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<v Speaker 1>Spine mind Lies something.

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<v Speaker 6>See.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye oh god, I'm bored.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's play another game.

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<v Speaker 8>Hi, do what?

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<v Speaker 9>Hello?

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<v Speaker 10>And this is your captain speaking. There is absolutely no

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<v Speaker 10>cause for a lack.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, no, no, not yet, they're thinking. They're thinking, what

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<v Speaker 5>is there absolutely no cause for alarm?

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<v Speaker 8>About?

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<v Speaker 10>Are the wings on fast? The wings are not on fast?

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<v Speaker 10>Now they're thinking, why should he say that?

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<v Speaker 11>So we say, Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>How are we doing?

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<v Speaker 1>I stopped eating with me a bit worried.

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<v Speaker 12>Good, Hang on, one, let's go to the wash room.

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<v Speaker 13>Is he there yet?

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<v Speaker 12>Please return to your seats and fasten your safety don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, here he comes going off the arm.

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<v Speaker 13>You will find your life jackets under your seats. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 13>you will find them mony wrecks about your heads. Not

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<v Speaker 13>unfast and you're safe.

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<v Speaker 4>Great, that was marvelous, gobbledly goose.

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<v Speaker 12>The scransons above your head are now ready to flag.

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<v Speaker 12>Please unfasten your safety belts and plass the emergency photo

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<v Speaker 12>scamps on the back of the seats behind you.

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<v Speaker 10>Love meaning about climbing over the seats, but do not

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<v Speaker 10>leave your seats.

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<v Speaker 4>Do not panic. TA will now be sir.

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<v Speaker 12>Inflate your life jacket and extinguish your cigarettes. Please remove

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<v Speaker 12>the luggage from the w recks above your head and

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<v Speaker 12>place it on the recks on the other side of

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<v Speaker 12>the aircraft, except which you should sit on.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, hang on, hold on, they won't jumped out. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be supright because there wasn't some trouble about there.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. It's a great sketch, isn't isn't it just

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<v Speaker 1>the were very good Monty Python And that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the rare ones we've actually had a tag at the end.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just about to say, usually they just jumped

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<v Speaker 3>from one to the other because they couldn't finish their sketches,

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<v Speaker 3>could they.

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<v Speaker 1>They had no great sketches, but bad punchlines.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, but that one, it had one.

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<v Speaker 1>It is great. Len is in Melton High Len.

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<v Speaker 8>Good day, mate, Nathan. I actually ejected a passenger of

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<v Speaker 8>a cross float.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, was it recently a long time ago?

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<v Speaker 4>Well back?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, when I was working there in catering, I was

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<v Speaker 8>checking off catering wise and I was just standing there

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<v Speaker 8>with the going your frank forward going, and passengers are

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<v Speaker 8>coming on. We're having it, you know. Than they were

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<v Speaker 8>settling down and missing it. And the last guy that comes,

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<v Speaker 8>everyone's going, happy New Year, Happy New Year, Happy new

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<v Speaker 8>This was a long time after nine to eleven, this

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<v Speaker 8>guy on and this down and fighting goes happy terrorism.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh the guy and galley with me, Yeah, you better

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<v Speaker 8>go and tell the skiople what he said. And he

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<v Speaker 8>went in and he got turfed out.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we don't tolerate that sort of behavior, for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Not.

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<v Speaker 8>It's just one more question, please, Nathan, have you ever

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<v Speaker 8>find choppers?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's a very different skill.

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<v Speaker 8>The reason asking Tony toy I was on to show

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<v Speaker 8>this Jackie Belgrad and I think it's Tony when I

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<v Speaker 8>stop a right using him one of those old bell

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<v Speaker 8>goppers now doors.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, mash, yep, yep, top jobs.

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<v Speaker 8>And it's just head banks to the right. And you

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<v Speaker 8>think I mean those things normally when they do a

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<v Speaker 8>bank to the right, they're sort of sort of heading

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<v Speaker 8>up upwards, in and upwards. Sit you're back in your

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<v Speaker 8>suit anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>It depends whether it's a descending turn or a level turn.

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<v Speaker 3>A climbing turn would sit you back in your seat. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>it's what.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, it's not going to throw you out.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, Well you've got to have a seat

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<v Speaker 3>belt on anyway, because it is open. I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 3>no way you'd sit in one without a seat belt.

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<v Speaker 8>No, no, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but speaking of and I'll.

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<v Speaker 8>Tell you what, Mike, you did some great aas I'll

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<v Speaker 8>tell you I reckon. You've been there for a while, haven't.

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<v Speaker 3>You coming up for twenty five years now?

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<v Speaker 8>Nineties?

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<v Speaker 3>No, not yet, not yet. I was flying but not

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<v Speaker 3>with not with I was still in the general aviation,

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<v Speaker 3>building up my hours, getting my experience doing the different

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<v Speaker 3>jobs that we have to do before we get on.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Simon working in country radio. Yeah, same sort of

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<v Speaker 3>thing you do your apprenticeship.

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<v Speaker 8>But I didn't do a lot of domestic raft anyway.

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<v Speaker 8>Were working international.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I started off in international and the jumbos for

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<v Speaker 3>three years, and then came to domestic.

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<v Speaker 8>What what what jumbo?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you flying?

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<v Speaker 3>The classic jumbos? The old ones? It's with a well

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<v Speaker 3>for those in the two hundred and three hundreds in

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<v Speaker 3>the sps, but the old ones still had a flight engineer,

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<v Speaker 3>and when we started as second officers we had to

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<v Speaker 3>do a flight engineer's license as well, So I was

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<v Speaker 3>sitting in the flight engineer's seat flipping switches and pushing buttons.

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<v Speaker 3>They were a very very manual aeroplane. These days, everything's

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<v Speaker 3>all done by computers. Flight engineers no longer exist, except

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<v Speaker 3>in the Russian aircraft. They have lots of flight.

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<v Speaker 8>Engineers, all right, tall cross crowds somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Along and now. I started in two thousand.

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<v Speaker 8>Two thousand, yeah, yeah, well in what and carrying tracks

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<v Speaker 8>international in eighty four and through two thousand.

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<v Speaker 3>And seven there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>So we might have crossed paths somewhere. I was in

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<v Speaker 3>the International in two thousand and from two thousand to

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and three. But just bringing up that the bell, Bell,

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<v Speaker 3>helicopters and MASH. It was sad news this week that

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<v Speaker 3>Loretta Swit passed away.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very sad, Thank you, Lynn, I appreciate the call. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>very sad. Hot lips all the hands. Yes, I mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday there were two there were two particular scenes of

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<v Speaker 1>hers in MASH that I just thought were just just

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<v Speaker 1>showed what a great actress she was. There was an

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<v Speaker 1>episode where she had a falling out with the nurses

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<v Speaker 1>because they never invited her to their games, they never

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<v Speaker 1>offered her a cup of coffee or whatever, and she

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<v Speaker 1>felt really sort of ostracized from the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>nurses just because she was the boss. Yes, So there's

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<v Speaker 1>an episode where she has quite a breakdown over that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought she was marvelous. That made me bore

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<v Speaker 1>my eyes out. And there's another episode where there was

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<v Speaker 1>a dog, a stray dog that had gone into camp, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and she heard that the dog had been hit by

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<v Speaker 1>a jeep and died, and she lost it over that

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<v Speaker 1>and again just such fantastic acting. And that's the like

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<v Speaker 1>the serious yes here jerking acting, but comic comic wise,

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<v Speaker 1>she was fantastic as well.

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<v Speaker 3>But that was the beauty of Mash, wasn't it that?

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<v Speaker 3>You know? It would go from laughing hysterically to a moment,

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<v Speaker 3>and often it was Radarr O'Reilly who changed the mood.

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<v Speaker 3>They'd all be laughing and carrying on and having mud

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<v Speaker 3>fights and doing whatever, and then he'd stop and get

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<v Speaker 3>up and prick his ears up and you know, say choppers,

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<v Speaker 3>and then everyone had get up and go and clean

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<v Speaker 3>themselves up because they were wounded coming in, so they

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<v Speaker 3>could really switch the mood. The writing was brilliant, the

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<v Speaker 3>acting was amazing, and that's why it's still on TV

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<v Speaker 3>all these years later.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, great series, and Hawk I pretty much just a

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<v Speaker 1>clone of Groucho Marks. Yes, but what a great job

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<v Speaker 1>Elean Elder did of it, didn't he? Yeah? Great character, yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, a break back with more calls in a moment,

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<v Speaker 1>Peter and Arthur, you'll be next. It's twenty five to

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<v Speaker 1>one in Melbourne, twenty five to eleven in Perth, and

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<v Speaker 1>in Adelaide five after midnight. Nathan Cosh is here talking

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<v Speaker 1>Pets and jets and we're taking your calls. Peter's in

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<v Speaker 1>talking for you.

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<v Speaker 6>Nathan, Good Peter, Yeah, good, Good morning guys. Nathan. Look,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm unfortunate enough to go and fly the simulators a

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<v Speaker 6>few times. I'm not a pilot, and I explain to people.

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<v Speaker 6>Everybody's heard it, but a lot of people don't understand it.

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<v Speaker 6>You know when you say armed doors at unarmed doors? Yes,

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<v Speaker 6>and people who's all got to do about the slide

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<v Speaker 6>in the door. In a couple of years, one of

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<v Speaker 6>the slides actually got deployed on the jets Jet when

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<v Speaker 6>it landed at tullim Ring there and everybody's heard it,

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<v Speaker 6>but nobody understands about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Well, the doors they can either open, just open

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<v Speaker 3>as is, or they can open and deploy their slide.

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<v Speaker 3>So when we pull up at the g and when

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<v Speaker 3>the caterers are coming in everything, obviously it's not a

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<v Speaker 3>good idea to have the slide deploy And it has

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<v Speaker 3>happened around the world at various times, and people have

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<v Speaker 3>been killed because you can imagine this slide that the

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<v Speaker 3>force of this slide has knocked people off catering trucks

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<v Speaker 3>or knocked them off stairs, that type of thing, And

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<v Speaker 3>so we arm doors and disarmed doors. So when we

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<v Speaker 3>disarm them, it means we disconnect the slides from the

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<v Speaker 3>doors so that they can be open normally. And then

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<v Speaker 3>once we all closed up and ready to go, we

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<v Speaker 3>arm them so that if the door had to be

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<v Speaker 3>opened in a hurry for an evacuation or whatever, then

0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:38.840
<v Speaker 3>you push the door open and the slide automatically deploys.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's something that there's a routine. And now the

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<v Speaker 3>flight attendants on the other side of the aircraft be

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<v Speaker 3>left or right, we'll check that the door is armed

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<v Speaker 3>and disarmed properly, just to avoid the potential for someone

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<v Speaker 3>opening a door with the slide still attached and a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>How interesting are you looking to become a pilot, Peter.

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<v Speaker 6>No, No, I just know somebody. I think the last

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<v Speaker 6>time I went there, it's quite easy to fly in,

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<v Speaker 6>but coming into land, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think it's very difficult, very difficult.

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<v Speaker 6>Can I talk me up a bit here, Yeah, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>it's a very it's like playing a big video machine

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<v Speaker 6>when you're in there, and it's a great experience.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes it is, And there's not official simulators but around Australia,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure in Perth and in Adelaide as well as Melbourne,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a i think they're called Flight Experience or something,

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<v Speaker 3>and you can go and they have a simulator that

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't move, but you can do all sorts of fun

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<v Speaker 3>and games and they'll have generally a general aviation pilot

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<v Speaker 3>who will take you around because they're well versed in

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<v Speaker 3>these things and do some fun stuff in the airplane,

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<v Speaker 3>which of course we don't do fun stuff in the

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<v Speaker 3>airplane do real I.

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<v Speaker 6>Think we've gone under the Harvard Bridge and gone under

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<v Speaker 6>the bridge, and it's amazing how you can land in

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<v Speaker 6>any airport in the world or any runway in the world.

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<v Speaker 6>Cleaning the computers, yeah, oh yeah, it's got all of

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<v Speaker 6>the terrain, it's got all of the visual all the

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<v Speaker 6>graphics and everything there, and it's they're very, very realistic

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<v Speaker 6>these days.

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<v Speaker 3>And of course one of the famous approaches was into

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<v Speaker 3>the old airport at Hong Kong at Kai Tak and

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<v Speaker 3>there was a.

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<v Speaker 1>Bit between the building, yeah, and a big.

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<v Speaker 3>Checkerboard on the hill and you had to sort of

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<v Speaker 3>aim at the checker. I never got to flight for real,

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<v Speaker 3>but I did it in the simulator and you head

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<v Speaker 3>towards this checkerboard and then you reach a certain height

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<v Speaker 3>and then you turn off, and then there's the runway

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<v Speaker 3>down there because you couldn't do a straight in approach

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<v Speaker 3>because the hill was there. So people used to go

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<v Speaker 3>up on the mountain there with the stand at the

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<v Speaker 3>checkerboard and take video and so on. And there's heaps

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<v Speaker 3>of it on YouTube of aeroplanes heading straight for the

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<v Speaker 3>mountain and then peeling off at the last minute and

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<v Speaker 3>going in and landing.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that airport still in news.

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<v Speaker 3>No, they stopped there was close to town, and so they

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<v Speaker 3>closed it up and then all the buildings shot up.

0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:07.639
<v Speaker 3>They built all the tall buildings because there's height restrictions

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<v Speaker 3>on your way into any airport. They have to have

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<v Speaker 3>a safe display where you know, the aircraft have to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to move about freely. And so they actually

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<v Speaker 3>built an island off Hong Kong, yeah, and filled it

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<v Speaker 3>up and then built the new airport there called Czech

0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:27.840
<v Speaker 3>lap Cock And yeah, that's where the airport is. But

0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:30.080
<v Speaker 3>the old Chai Tak closed down many moons ago.

0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I just find that amazing. Just go out the middle

0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:35.320
<v Speaker 1>of the bay and start tipping dirt in there and

0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:36.760
<v Speaker 1>they eventually put an airport on.

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<v Speaker 3>The Yep, they do that, and the Chinese are very

0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:42.600
<v Speaker 3>good at doing things like that. Yeah, they get these infrastructure.

0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 3>I wonder if they can build a tunnel.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, why why don't we outsource

0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:54.560
<v Speaker 1>that because I'm sure the connecting link for Melbourne, the

0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:58.920
<v Speaker 1>from the Ring Road, yes out to the Eastern Freeway

0:23:58.960 --> 0:24:01.080
<v Speaker 1>that they're doing now. Yes, it's going to take them

0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:03.800
<v Speaker 1>probably another year or so at least at least, Yeah,

0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:06.480
<v Speaker 1>but I reckon if we got the Chinese people out

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:07.800
<v Speaker 1>here who do their stuff.

0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:09.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it'll be done yesterday.

0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they could knock it off in a fortnight at least. Yeah. Incredible.

0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Arthur's in Westwood's great, Hi.

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<v Speaker 11>Arthur, good morning, Simon, Nathan and Jay. You know Loretta

0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:24.880
<v Speaker 11>you're talking about from mash She was also in Hawaii five.

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<v Speaker 11>Oh occasionally the old.

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<v Speaker 3>One or the new one?

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:32.400
<v Speaker 1>The yeah, the original.

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they've remade it. So there's the one with Jack

0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 3>Lord and the one without Jack and the one with Yeah,

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:42.119
<v Speaker 3>I was trying to cover I don't even know in

0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:44.160
<v Speaker 3>the new one, but if they've changed it all.

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<v Speaker 11>But anyway, I just wanted to ask in Nathan, do

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<v Speaker 11>A Marshall still travel on certain planes.

0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:57.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for security reasons, absolutely, they just undercover people who

0:24:57.680 --> 0:24:59.680
<v Speaker 3>will go flowing on aeroplanes just in case.

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<v Speaker 11>Another thing I wanted to bring up. I was watching

0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:07.720
<v Speaker 11>NBC News the American just before local news, and I've

0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 11>seen something unusual and this time the birds went outside.

0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:15.560
<v Speaker 11>There was a quite a few pigeons inside the plane

0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:16.720
<v Speaker 11>that dole capturing.

0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:21.119
<v Speaker 3>What did they were they in this cargo and escaped

0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:23.640
<v Speaker 3>or something in the hand like.

0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:30.840
<v Speaker 11>I'm not they were just flying in there inside. Yeah, yeah,

0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:32.720
<v Speaker 11>I'm not sure which company it was.

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:36.199
<v Speaker 3>They couldn't come in from outside, so they must have

0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:39.080
<v Speaker 3>somehow without a ticket, not without a ticket and going

0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:42.760
<v Speaker 3>through security of course, but yeah, I don't know.

0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:47.480
<v Speaker 11>I'm sure see one being captured. So, like you said,

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:49.440
<v Speaker 11>there must have been a cargo or for a minute

0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 11>of the escape.

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:54.200
<v Speaker 3>Maybe a magician had had a bag full of birds

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:55.560
<v Speaker 3>that escaped, or.

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 1>If it's just a little like domestic flight and you're

0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:02.639
<v Speaker 1>going up the stairs the door lie in. Yeah, possibly, Yeah,

0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:07.760
<v Speaker 1>that's probably the most likely explanation for a bird actually

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>being inside the body of the.

0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:11.080
<v Speaker 3>Will you see them in the terminal quite regularly. You

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 3>see sparrows and things that have flown in when the

0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 3>when the doors have been open, and you see them

0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 3>flapping around in the terminal, and they do have after

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:23.200
<v Speaker 3>hours there are people from the airport with big nets

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 3>that try and catch them around.

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:28.480
<v Speaker 1>And chase them. Yeah, it happens in shopping centers.

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:31.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's right, anything like that. But just when you're

0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:33.920
<v Speaker 3>talking about Hawaii five Ozho and Jack Lord and the

0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 3>building there the Ilakai when he's those who remember he's

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 3>standing on the balconoor and then yeah, there's a there's

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:43.880
<v Speaker 3>a close up of him. Just around the corner from

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:47.880
<v Speaker 3>there is a little marina, and that marina was from

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 3>whence the SS Minnow departed? Oh was it for Gilligan's Island?

0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Is that right?

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:56.920
<v Speaker 3>Yes, so that's where they filmed the Minnow the data

0:26:57.000 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 3>uture for a three hour tour.

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:05.400
<v Speaker 1>And in the ISLD episode, apparently the if you look

0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:07.719
<v Speaker 1>at the background there was the flag was flying at

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 1>half mast and that was because it was the death

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 1>of j. Hays assassination. Okay, so it was filmed at

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:18.920
<v Speaker 1>that time, right, so the flag was at half mast.

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 1>I remember reading that as a as a trivial piece

0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:23.320
<v Speaker 1>and thinking.

0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 3>Now, why is it that if I said to you now, Simon,

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to tell you something that is going to

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:30.639
<v Speaker 3>save your life. This is going to change your life forever.

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 3>Within about ten seconds, you're going to forget it. Yes,

0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 3>But if I tell you who are you? Look? Yeah,

0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:40.480
<v Speaker 3>he is just a nonsensical figure or fact or figure

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:42.480
<v Speaker 3>or whatever. It will never be forgotten.

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:47.680
<v Speaker 1>That's the stuff I remember, ye pointless, ye rubbish. That's

0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:49.160
<v Speaker 1>just not important at all.

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:51.399
<v Speaker 3>I think we're all like that really, just one of

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 3>those weird things.

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:56.080
<v Speaker 1>There was a sketch on a radio show called I'm sorry,

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 1>I'll read that again, and it was a John and

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:04.879
<v Speaker 1>Betty sketch, male and female having an argument, and the

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:07.960
<v Speaker 1>character of John said I've got something to tell you

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:11.120
<v Speaker 1>and she says yes, and he says Cardinal Rieschlu died

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:14.680
<v Speaker 1>in sixteen forty two. Oh no, And she says, all right,

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:18.399
<v Speaker 1>so mother was wrong. Well I've always remembered Cardinal Rieschlu

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:21.040
<v Speaker 1>died in sixteen forty two. It was just a funny,

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 1>funny little line. But I remember that, yes, so yeah,

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:27.359
<v Speaker 1>unusual fact.

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:29.720
<v Speaker 3>But his mother was wrong, Yeah, exactly.

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 1>But Cardinal Richelieu, if you're interested people died in sixteen

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 1>forty two, and yeah, I don't know why. I've always

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 1>remembered that when you go on the chase, Yeah, well

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 1>he wants to a millionaire or hot seed or whatever. Yes, yes,

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:45.760
<v Speaker 1>a million dollar question. When did Cardinal reeschlu die?

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 3>You'll be screaming at the television?

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Have you ever done that? Have you ever watched that?

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 1>One percent?

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 3>Class Bits and Pieces? Yeah?

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I love that?

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 3>Which one the English one, of the Australian one, well.

0:28:56.720 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 1>The English one Udley mac Yeah, Lee is so funny.

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Lee Mack is one of the greatest comic talents. I've

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 1>ever seen him.

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:06.600
<v Speaker 3>And have you've seen him on? Would I lie to you?

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 1>I've seen clicks.

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's just amazing those the people that do that.

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 3>It is so so funny.

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're very good. The original show that I first

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 1>saw Lee mac on was a show called The Sketch Show, right,

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 1>and it's some of the funniest television I have ever

0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>seen in my life.

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the cast I don't know who all the other

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember all their names, but there was three

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:31.040
<v Speaker 1>guys to girls and they just did all these wonderful sketches,

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 1>just pure brilliance, Absolutely brilliance.

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, isn't that the thing? I mean, we Australia

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 3>had it. It's a golden period of sketch comedy when

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:43.960
<v Speaker 3>there was fast forward comedy companies. Yeah, and Magda Zabanski

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 3>was in the news as well. He's going through some

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 3>tough times at the moment.

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeshuawell macder if you're listening, sending all our love Magda

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 1>a legend. Yes, we better get another breakout of the

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 1>way surge and Bob you'll be up next. Welcome back

0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 1>to Australia overnight. Nathan Cosh is here and we're taking

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:04.959
<v Speaker 1>your calls. Surgery is in Williamstown High Surgery.

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<v Speaker 14>Shallow boys. I hope you're going having a good night.

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you why why are you up the sash.

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:13.640
<v Speaker 14>I was not even to talk about it, but I've

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 14>mentioned it briefly. I'm actually airline pilot and I'm on

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 14>holiday in Australia for the next three months. My daughter

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 14>gave birth to her to her kids.

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 3>Congratulations you're visiting, Yes.

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 14>Yes, thank you. I fly the Big three fifty aircraft

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 14>is beautiful air Yeah, with whom Turkish Airlines?

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 3>Okay, what Turkish airlines are coming to Australia now, of

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 3>course I know, but only the seven eight seven so.

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 14>Well, no, it's actually they come last year and they're

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 14>flying E three fifty aircraft. At the moment, I actually

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 14>flew the not the inaugirl but the second flight to

0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 14>Australia on the three fifty aircraft and it is a

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 14>primary aircraft is flying between Melbourne and Singapore to Istanbul.

0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 3>Yes, they're very very good airline Turkish.

0:30:58.080 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 14>Oh, it's very good airline and is obviously offered im

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 14>on the economy and business class, but is the corptual

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 14>and the service it is the main thing. So I

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 14>love being a pilot is my favorite thing.

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 3>Yes, good and you've been doing it for a while.

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 14>Yes, I come met at the Air Force. Yes, and

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 14>then obviously the transitioned onto initially the Bowing seven thirty

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:24.680
<v Speaker 14>seven and then you know us E three thirty and

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 14>now the three fifties. From the pilot in command, well done,

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 14>the captain, thank you, Thank you boys.

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Was there always a dream of your surgery from a

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>young boy.

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 14>Of course. You know my father was actually pilot, so

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:44.719
<v Speaker 14>but he was not civilian pilot. He was a military pilot.

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 14>But I not have much interesting in military pilot. But

0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 14>in Turkey you have to go through the military to

0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 14>actually progress to civilian aircraft.

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 3>Yes, here we have some of some of my colleagues

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 3>came through the military and others. Most of us came

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 3>through civilian light aircraft and all the rest of it

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 3>and then moved on into the airlines. So that's that's

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 3>lovely that you hear. For that you're able to take

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 3>a break and here with your grandchild and with your daughter.

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 3>And William Williams townspecially went.

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 14>To watch I actually went to watch my son's team.

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:18.479
<v Speaker 14>There's a big thing going on in Melbourne with social

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 14>media and I do see it on TikTok as well

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 14>as the football is futsal and actually I went to

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 14>watch my son play in Moroban today and this team

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 14>is actually KFFC. They're getting a lot of publicity online

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 14>and this and that, but I want to watch them

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 14>drive from Ristown. Very underwhelming my son's team. They destroy

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 14>they destroyed this team. I was very underwhelmed.

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 11>You know.

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 14>I don't like teams to promote themselves like this Keft team,

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 14>but they're not delivered on the field. They were embarrassing.

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:50.720
<v Speaker 14>They got smashed. Yes, they took a big game on

0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 14>social media, but they're not delivered. You know, is underwhelming,

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 14>is embarrasting often. I know they're just kids, but it

0:32:57.760 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 14>is not good enough.

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 3>Yes, but isn't isn't it much better to be supporting

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:03.480
<v Speaker 3>the team that's doing the smashing rather than the one

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 3>that's getting clovered.

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 14>Of course, But you know, I see these boys that

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 14>some of them on Turkish origin, some of the more

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 14>Greek origin. You think, you know, they have bigger representation,

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 14>you know, a big community, but you know, I want

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:17.280
<v Speaker 14>to see them do well. And then they're not doing well. Man,

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 14>You know, you have to represent the community well. And

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:22.200
<v Speaker 14>you know this team is Anglo team who I play

0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 14>against My son is my son is Turkish, but he's

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 14>playing for Anglo team and you know he's playing against

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 14>his team. You know, I expect you know, the team.

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:33.720
<v Speaker 14>You know, they're usually passionate Europeans, but men they play,

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:36.360
<v Speaker 14>they're a lubbish man, you know. But it is good

0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 14>to see that it's growing. It is that's growing in

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 14>the state of Victoria. Yeah, I really like this.

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Yes, now, Sergey, quick question for me because your kids

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 1>are here, but you're over here. On holiday, could you

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 1>I would you ever consider like leaving Turkish Airlines and

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 1>getting a job with local comping Quantas well.

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:02.719
<v Speaker 14>The problem is is seniority with pilots, as you understand.

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 14>So I'd live there but this three fifty as captain,

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 14>but probably would not have the same seniority coming onto

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 14>getting the three fifty. But I would be your first officer.

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 14>I'll be senior first officer, yes, likely so, And this

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 14>is the problem. You know, I'm fifty eight, I've got

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 14>seven more years of flying, you know by the time

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 14>I build myself up as pilot within Quantas.

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 3>Yes, you wouldn't get a command. Again, just for those

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 3>that don't know, most airlines work on a seniority system,

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 3>so it's based on your date of joining. Oh okay,

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:39.400
<v Speaker 3>so as you just you become the bottom of the

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:41.920
<v Speaker 3>pile when you join, and then over the years you

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 3>gradually build up in seniority then and then it's yeah,

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 3>so your ability to be promoted or going onto the

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:52.399
<v Speaker 3>different fleets and all the rest of it. It all

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 3>just depends on how long you've been in the company.

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 3>So if Sergey was to come to well, any other

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 3>airline really, although there are some that do contracts take

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 3>contract pilots, and so you can work for a while

0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:07.799
<v Speaker 3>as you can come in directly as a captain. But yeah,

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 3>if you're going to join the mainline operation of most

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 3>of these airlines, be they Virgin quantas, whatever, that even

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 3>with all the experience that Sergei has, he would be

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:19.400
<v Speaker 3>the most junior pilot in the new company and have

0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 3>to start again. You don't take your rank with you.

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Is there a logical reason for that? Pure it doesn't

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:26.359
<v Speaker 1>make sense them.

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 3>There is in that it's very fair and it's very

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 3>transparent as far as promotions are concerned, because there are

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 3>other companies where they don't do it, and you know,

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 3>nepotism reigns supreme, or if you know you're in favor

0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:43.360
<v Speaker 3>with management, then people get promoted early on, and so

0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:46.600
<v Speaker 3>it becomes a bit of an issue, whereas with a

0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 3>seniority number, it's transparent to all. And then when they say,

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:52.160
<v Speaker 3>right next to you, we've got this number of positions

0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 3>on this fleet or this number of positions on that fleet,

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:57.120
<v Speaker 3>and you bid to go across or you put your

0:35:57.160 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 3>hand up, and then it just works in order of seniority.

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:02.319
<v Speaker 3>So it's not a perfect system, but at least it's

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 3>fair and least in our way. Yeah, that people can't

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:08.040
<v Speaker 3>sort of get promoted well out of seniority just because

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:09.799
<v Speaker 3>they happen to get on well with the management or

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:10.480
<v Speaker 3>that type of thing.

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 1>All right, we've got to get another break, and thank you,

0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>sergery grankful. I appreciate that. Me sitting back listening to

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:17.440
<v Speaker 1>two pilots talk to.

0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 3>Each yetscoring as bat droppings, isn't it?

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 1>It was great? Good call back in a minute right

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.120
<v Speaker 1>over for those on hold, if you'll happily hang on

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:27.360
<v Speaker 1>because Gabriel Hodson's about to bring you the latest news,

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 1>and then Nathan Kosh will stick around because Maggie sent

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 1>a text through if night flying Bat's a problem and

0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Nathan has said they're not, but it's just led to

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:38.799
<v Speaker 1>something interesting, Nathan, which we'll talk about after the news.

0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:40.439
<v Speaker 3>If you're okay we can do that.

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because yeah, you do occasionally hit things, which we

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 1>will discuss that and take one of your calls with

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 1>our number two with Nathan coj Pets and jets here

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:53.040
<v Speaker 1>on Australia overnight.

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 15>Yes, now this is a stranger Open Eyes with Simon Owen's.

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Take you back to your days on the Fox or

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 1>on Triple M.

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, yes, yes.

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Hungry like the Wolf, Yes.

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:34.120
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's not funny. You know we I think we

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 3>all move with the music of our time, don't we.

0:37:37.560 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 3>So when we're when we're young, it's the cutting edge

0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:44.360
<v Speaker 3>and everything, and then you start to change radio stations

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:48.439
<v Speaker 3>and move along with it and that becomes your era

0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 3>of music until you get to the point where you

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:53.120
<v Speaker 3>can't hear it anymore. And then it's too.

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Bad because no one's catering.

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:59.360
<v Speaker 3>Catering for it. Yeah, that's radio for the death work.

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:02.359
<v Speaker 1>But none, none of us hit listeners. Now we're all

0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:03.200
<v Speaker 1>into the gold net.

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 3>That's right exactly. But you know that's at the time though,

0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:09.359
<v Speaker 3>of course it was. You know, we all thought we

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:11.799
<v Speaker 3>were you know, yeah, we're pretty cool and all this

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 3>great music that was going on. And now you look

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:19.120
<v Speaker 3>at the revival tours, the defibrillated tour of all of

0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:20.839
<v Speaker 3>these bands, you know.

0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Phil Phil Collins last tour was called not Dead Yet. Yes, yeah,

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 1>so it says it all, doesn't it. That's the voice

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:31.360
<v Speaker 1>of Nathan Kosh If you've just joined us. Simon Owens

0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:34.120
<v Speaker 1>in the chair for Tony McManus again this morning, Jay

0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 1>is here as well taking your calls, and Nathan Kosh

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:39.920
<v Speaker 1>is in the studio with pets and jets. Now, just

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:41.759
<v Speaker 1>before we do get back to your calls and thank

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 1>you for hanging on. Maggie did send a text for

0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:47.840
<v Speaker 1>you saying if you're flying at night, bat's a problem.

0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:52.880
<v Speaker 3>Yes, they're not usually, although I did one night actually

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:57.319
<v Speaker 3>ironically landing in Adelaide, where Maggie lives. Just as I

0:38:57.360 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 3>was touching down, heard a splat on the wind screen.

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 3>And when we taxi back in this was at night,

0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:07.000
<v Speaker 3>and there was a big, big mark on the wind

0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 3>screen and we call the safety officers who were patrolling

0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:12.960
<v Speaker 3>the airport all the time, and they had a look

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:14.840
<v Speaker 3>and they found a poor little fruit bat that it

0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:17.960
<v Speaker 3>got in our way. But that's a normally very very

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:21.359
<v Speaker 3>good at keeping away from aeroplanes because they're so na

0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 3>it's very good. But this one, maybe I don't know.

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:27.360
<v Speaker 3>I was looking for some food or something that just

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, you just lose concentration for one minute and

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:35.440
<v Speaker 3>it's all over. He's probably checking his Instagram, might have done.

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:39.359
<v Speaker 1>But now you did say that when we spoke about

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 1>this during the outbreak before the news, you did say

0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:47.240
<v Speaker 1>that on occasions a bird will Yes there's a bird striker,

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:51.239
<v Speaker 1>but just hopefully not a large one. But yes, it

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:54.280
<v Speaker 1>does happen. And you said something off here that really

0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 1>intrigued me. Do you want to repeat what that was?

0:39:56.960 --> 0:40:01.400
<v Speaker 3>Yes, Well, when just by way of background, with the engines,

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 3>then we take some of the compressed air out of

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 3>that engine and then run it back into the cabin

0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:12.040
<v Speaker 3>as well through an air conditioning machine. But that forms

0:40:12.080 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 3>the a the air conditioning, and be the pressurization because

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:17.719
<v Speaker 3>we pump up the cabin like a pressure vessel. That's

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:19.920
<v Speaker 3>why we can fly as high as we can. If

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:23.319
<v Speaker 3>we were up at thirty five thousand feet without pressurization,

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 3>then you know it's not breathe living you would be

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:29.200
<v Speaker 3>able to breathe exactly. So they tap air off. Having

0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:32.560
<v Speaker 3>said that, the newer ones now have separate electrical machines anyway,

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 3>but most of the aeroplanes have still got where they

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 3>take the air off or bleed air they call it,

0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:40.800
<v Speaker 3>and take it away from the engine. And if you

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:43.759
<v Speaker 3>look at a modern jet engine, then the inner bit

0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 3>is called the core, so the actual engine is very small,

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:49.839
<v Speaker 3>and then around it you have the fan, so it's

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 3>like a propeller, but it's all in case within that engine.

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 3>So the middle bit is the actual engine. The outer

0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 3>bit is just air that gets pushed by that propeller

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 3>around the side of the engine. Helps keep the noise down,

0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:04.960
<v Speaker 3>helps keep the engine cool, and it's just very efficient

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:08.040
<v Speaker 3>way to go. So if you do happen to hit

0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:10.400
<v Speaker 3>a bird, and we did not that long ago, and

0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:13.600
<v Speaker 3>it went around the side of the engine and we

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:16.200
<v Speaker 3>just felt a little vibration, and we're monitoring it and

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 3>they can. We've got real time data that goes back

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:21.920
<v Speaker 3>on the ground and the engineers we're having a look

0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 3>and going, oh, yeah, look, everything's fine. You're okay to

0:41:24.160 --> 0:41:27.120
<v Speaker 3>keep going. But if it goes down the middle of

0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 3>the engine, because it gets very hot, you know, it's

0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:34.200
<v Speaker 3>up at around seven or eight hundred degrees celsius, you

0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:39.560
<v Speaker 3>can get a smell of burnt bird, a roast chicken

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 3>kind of smell that goes into the cabin for a

0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:46.440
<v Speaker 3>short time KFC because it's over livered yep, because the

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:48.600
<v Speaker 3>bird's gone through the main part of the engine and

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:51.760
<v Speaker 3>sort of cooked instantly, and the air that's been tapped

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:56.319
<v Speaker 3>off the engine as it goes through the machine. You

0:41:56.400 --> 0:41:58.160
<v Speaker 3>still get a little bit of that smell for a

0:41:58.160 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 3>short time. So that's a giveaway that a bird has

0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:03.360
<v Speaker 3>actually gone through the actual core, the middle of the engine.

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:04.920
<v Speaker 1>So if ever you're on a plane and you go

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:08.319
<v Speaker 1>it smells like chicken, yeah, it's a chance you've just

0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:10.080
<v Speaker 1>collected a poor little birdie on the way.

0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 3>Correct.

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:15.799
<v Speaker 1>How fascinating is that it's always educational working with you, Nathan.

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:18.480
<v Speaker 3>And for me too, I learned what's about.

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you learn a lot from me.

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:23.960
<v Speaker 3>I do, I do. Don't talk yourself down.

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Bas is in North Geelong High bas Hey.

0:42:27.320 --> 0:42:29.080
<v Speaker 4>You go, he got good.

0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:33.319
<v Speaker 9>Oh, I've had a bad day that I had to

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:36.520
<v Speaker 9>go and see my grandfather. He's been dead forty four

0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 9>years and I'll love him to death. When I was cheap,

0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:46.200
<v Speaker 9>we don't ever listen together, you don't it. Yeah he

0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:48.280
<v Speaker 9>was in World War two.

0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:53.480
<v Speaker 4>Yes, he brought he built a big camp in Walla,

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 4>Waller for the Croatians because with a Nachi's time and

0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:00.319
<v Speaker 4>we like the ma.

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:07.200
<v Speaker 3>Son like an internment, an internment camp for people. They

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 3>did that with Japanese people as well, and Germans, I

0:43:11.080 --> 0:43:11.560
<v Speaker 3>guess too.

0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 9>And yeah, and then Brendad when I was seized Europe.

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:23.080
<v Speaker 9>Do you know the austrange that they sent there took

0:43:23.200 --> 0:43:25.320
<v Speaker 9>out eighty percent of Europe?

0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 3>Was the Australian continue punched well above their weight? Is

0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:31.960
<v Speaker 3>what you Is that what you mean?

0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:34.520
<v Speaker 4>Oh? Of course, Yeah.

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:37.040
<v Speaker 16>The grandfather got to Europe.

0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:41.960
<v Speaker 9>Croatians.

0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for the call, Bas, but we'll well, we might

0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 1>just move on from that conversation. Fascinating as it as

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:51.960
<v Speaker 1>it is, and we do appreciate your call, and you're

0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:57.320
<v Speaker 1>reminiscing about your grandfather, yes, but yeah, there's just for

0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:01.160
<v Speaker 1>the time of the morning and the sort of audience

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:04.680
<v Speaker 1>we're chatting to, we might just move on from that conversation.

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:07.600
<v Speaker 1>But we do appreciate the call and thank you very

0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:08.279
<v Speaker 1>much for it.

0:44:08.920 --> 0:44:12.319
<v Speaker 3>Yes, war is it's not a pretty thing, is it? No,

0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:14.240
<v Speaker 3>on many levels, on all levels.

0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:19.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. There's a christ Bergh song yes, called Borderline, just

0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:23.759
<v Speaker 1>a lovely one line in it that always struck with me.

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 1>These are only boys and I will never because so

0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:31.080
<v Speaker 1>many people were just teenage. Yes, yes, these are only

0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:33.680
<v Speaker 1>boys and I will never know how men can see

0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:35.080
<v Speaker 1>the wisdom in a war.

0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:37.640
<v Speaker 3>Yes, great great lyric by christ.

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:40.279
<v Speaker 1>Burgh, very true. Jim is in West foods Gray, How

0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:41.160
<v Speaker 1>are you, Jim.

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:47.680
<v Speaker 16>Not too bad, Good morning, Simon, Nathan and Jay. The

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:51.560
<v Speaker 16>song is said about Phil Collins being something that I'm

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:52.319
<v Speaker 16>not being dead.

0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Phil Collins last tour when he came out

0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago. The tour was actually called

0:44:58.400 --> 0:44:59.840
<v Speaker 1>the Not Dead Yet Tour.

0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:04.439
<v Speaker 16>Ah, that's very strange because Pink had a song I'm

0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:06.920
<v Speaker 16>not Dead Yet or something like that.

0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:10.280
<v Speaker 3>Who pinched it? From whom?

0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 16>I would have been Phil Collins. I must have pinched

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:19.640
<v Speaker 16>the first, because I don't ever remember Phil Colin singing that.

0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 1>But I remember I know it wasn't a song. It

0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:24.920
<v Speaker 1>was the name of his tour, like oh.

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:29.200
<v Speaker 3>Like Eagles with hell freezes over to Yeah.

0:45:29.200 --> 0:45:32.359
<v Speaker 16>Yeah, I think actually had a song I'm not dead

0:45:32.480 --> 0:45:38.399
<v Speaker 16>or I'm not dead yet anyway. Nathan, Yes, a while back,

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:44.319
<v Speaker 16>I heard you talking about toward the shell cats and

0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:49.440
<v Speaker 16>ginger cats. Yes, I had three Tordos cats and I

0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:52.840
<v Speaker 16>named them are Missy because they all looked like crimees

0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:55.200
<v Speaker 16>off each other. And I named the more Missy in

0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:59.000
<v Speaker 16>memory of one of the other. Yes, and my last

0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:01.720
<v Speaker 16>one I had fo seventeen.

0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:03.160
<v Speaker 3>Years, which that's a very good deal.

0:46:04.280 --> 0:46:08.640
<v Speaker 16>And like in shop, I remember Diamond when when she died.

0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:11.920
<v Speaker 16>I rang you and Philip one remember when, and I

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:14.640
<v Speaker 16>was in shop and you and Philip were comforting me

0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:17.640
<v Speaker 16>that I thought I'll never get another animal again. Then

0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:22.560
<v Speaker 16>I decided to get goldfish and I bought I used

0:46:22.560 --> 0:46:25.880
<v Speaker 16>to call the black ones goggle eyes. And when I

0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:28.359
<v Speaker 16>went to the aquarium he said, I think he said,

0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:30.840
<v Speaker 16>the proper name for him is blackmore.

0:46:30.960 --> 0:46:32.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, black Moore goldfish, that's right.

0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:36.920
<v Speaker 16>I started off with two of them one I actually

0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:39.719
<v Speaker 16>started with one, then got another. I had a very

0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:43.359
<v Speaker 16>large tank. I bought ten all together, and they grew

0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:49.480
<v Speaker 16>very big. I'll still even though they grew big, my

0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:52.399
<v Speaker 16>tank was very big. I had two pumps in there

0:46:52.960 --> 0:46:58.800
<v Speaker 16>in case one do yep. And anyway, after they died,

0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:02.000
<v Speaker 16>I thought I'll never at an animal again. But one

0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:05.440
<v Speaker 16>thing I told Dennis that one time went on is

0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 16>being what do you know and that someone else doesn't know?

0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:14.000
<v Speaker 16>And I told him the goldfish have a lifespan of

0:47:14.160 --> 0:47:16.880
<v Speaker 16>thirty years if they don't get sick. And then I

0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:19.360
<v Speaker 16>said that can't be possible. I've put a goldfish in

0:47:19.400 --> 0:47:22.200
<v Speaker 16>the bowl miles dead in the week. So then Dennis

0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:23.440
<v Speaker 16>decided to look it up.

0:47:23.600 --> 0:47:24.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and he said.

0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:28.040
<v Speaker 16>Longest living goldfish in the world was forty two years old.

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:31.680
<v Speaker 16>Back to the tortoise.

0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:32.799
<v Speaker 3>Cat, totoisell yep.

0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:36.279
<v Speaker 16>Yeah, the tortoiseshell cats. I had three of them, and

0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:40.120
<v Speaker 16>I used to know the manager Savors in Butts Gray.

0:47:40.200 --> 0:47:42.920
<v Speaker 16>I don't know how we got talking about cats. I

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:47.360
<v Speaker 16>said to him, I've had three cat tortoise shell cats,

0:47:47.360 --> 0:47:50.120
<v Speaker 16>the whole female. I've never come across a male cat.

0:47:50.160 --> 0:47:52.280
<v Speaker 16>And he said to me, I own a male cat.

0:47:52.560 --> 0:47:54.880
<v Speaker 16>But why I bring it up Because I heard you

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:58.600
<v Speaker 16>saying that the male tortoise cats are all born steroid.

0:47:58.800 --> 0:48:01.360
<v Speaker 3>Ah, yes, because coat coloring.

0:48:01.880 --> 0:48:05.759
<v Speaker 16>Yes, I go the other thing. I also had two

0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:07.200
<v Speaker 16>ginger cats in the bath.

0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:07.600
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

0:48:07.719 --> 0:48:10.359
<v Speaker 16>I can't remember why you're saying about ginger cats. If

0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:10.840
<v Speaker 16>you can.

0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:14.280
<v Speaker 3>Remind you, Yeah, ninety nine percent of ginger cats are male,

0:48:14.920 --> 0:48:17.760
<v Speaker 3>one percent of them a female. But the difference between

0:48:17.760 --> 0:48:20.960
<v Speaker 3>that and the tortoiseshells is the female ginger cats are fertile,

0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:24.760
<v Speaker 3>whereas the one percent of tortoiseshell cats which are male,

0:48:25.440 --> 0:48:26.359
<v Speaker 3>are infertile.

0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:29.120
<v Speaker 1>So how do you make more Well.

0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:31.279
<v Speaker 3>They just end up the coat color. It ends up

0:48:31.320 --> 0:48:35.200
<v Speaker 3>quite random. You can there are dominant and recessive genes.

0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:37.520
<v Speaker 3>But if you have a look at a litter of kittens,

0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:40.840
<v Speaker 3>they can be all different colors and sort of nothing

0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:42.280
<v Speaker 3>like either of the parents.

0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:45.480
<v Speaker 1>So I like a black tom cat mates with a

0:48:45.520 --> 0:48:48.360
<v Speaker 1>female tortoise shell, you might get some black cats in

0:48:48.400 --> 0:48:48.920
<v Speaker 1>some tortoish.

0:48:49.080 --> 0:48:51.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And it depends whether the gene is expressed. You

0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:53.799
<v Speaker 3>need to have a recessive gene. You need to get

0:48:53.800 --> 0:48:57.200
<v Speaker 3>the gene from both sides, male from the father and mother,

0:48:57.640 --> 0:49:00.560
<v Speaker 3>whereas a dominant gene, if there's one, it's one or

0:49:00.600 --> 0:49:02.520
<v Speaker 3>the other, and that will express.

0:49:02.160 --> 0:49:04.480
<v Speaker 1>That your brown eyes and blue eyes.

0:49:04.560 --> 0:49:06.640
<v Speaker 3>Ya, blue eyes are recessive, So you have to have

0:49:06.719 --> 0:49:09.440
<v Speaker 3>both parents that give you the gene for blue eyes.

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:11.839
<v Speaker 3>But you can have two brown eyed parents that give

0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:13.040
<v Speaker 3>you a blue eyed child.

0:49:13.080 --> 0:49:15.319
<v Speaker 1>Well that's my wife and myself. Our daughter Shannon has

0:49:15.360 --> 0:49:15.839
<v Speaker 1>blue eyes.

0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:19.520
<v Speaker 3>Yes, because if you both have the blue geen and

0:49:19.560 --> 0:49:22.480
<v Speaker 3>then just depending on how the egg and the sperm

0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:25.160
<v Speaker 3>work out, then they can have the blue gen from

0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:28.120
<v Speaker 3>the from the mother, a blue jean from the father.

0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:30.399
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, two brown eyed parents can have a blue

0:49:30.400 --> 0:49:31.480
<v Speaker 3>eyes and got.

0:49:31.360 --> 0:49:34.600
<v Speaker 1>The blue from both. My wife and I obviously both

0:49:34.640 --> 0:49:37.560
<v Speaker 1>have a blue and a brown geen. Yes, yeah, because

0:49:37.840 --> 0:49:40.440
<v Speaker 1>my sister also has blue eyes and my wife's uncle

0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:41.160
<v Speaker 1>has blue eyes.

0:49:41.239 --> 0:49:43.920
<v Speaker 3>Yes, so it runs there and the blue hidden in

0:49:43.960 --> 0:49:47.200
<v Speaker 3>the backward. It can sit for generations before it gets expressed.

0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:49.319
<v Speaker 3>You have to have a parent. The other parent has

0:49:49.360 --> 0:49:50.719
<v Speaker 3>to have the blue jean as well.

0:49:51.440 --> 0:49:54.640
<v Speaker 1>And then my second daughter, Rachel had like black plossom eyes.

0:49:54.719 --> 0:49:58.280
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, but you'll still probably yeah, well she could

0:49:58.320 --> 0:49:59.839
<v Speaker 3>still well carry the blue.

0:50:00.280 --> 0:50:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Yes, she might, yes, exactly.

0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:05.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a genetics is incredible, it's amazing.

0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Where would my baldness have come from? My grandfather on

0:50:11.000 --> 0:50:12.960
<v Speaker 1>on both sides had here.

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:15.239
<v Speaker 3>Yes, are you sure that?

0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:20.879
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Oh yeah, there's a question I've never asked. Oh

0:50:20.960 --> 0:50:21.680
<v Speaker 1>that's interesting.

0:50:21.920 --> 0:50:22.880
<v Speaker 3>Was there a board milkman?

0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:26.360
<v Speaker 1>Proh.

0:50:26.400 --> 0:50:28.600
<v Speaker 3>God, there's got some questions to be answered.

0:50:28.840 --> 0:50:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'll investigate that a little further. A break and

0:50:33.680 --> 0:50:35.920
<v Speaker 1>then Bob Lee and Maggie and Norma will be with

0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:39.320
<v Speaker 1>you in a sick I'm quite thrown. Hello there, welcome

0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:43.239
<v Speaker 1>back to Australia overnight. Simon Owen's in the chair for

0:50:43.560 --> 0:50:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Tony Mac and Nathan Coosh is here as well taking

0:50:46.000 --> 0:50:48.440
<v Speaker 1>your calls. Bob is in cue good.

0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:51.200
<v Speaker 4>Bob, don't good morning?

0:50:51.239 --> 0:50:56.000
<v Speaker 17>Should I say, and Nathan last time we spoke, well,

0:50:56.040 --> 0:50:58.960
<v Speaker 17>recall that you and I cross paths many times without

0:50:59.000 --> 0:51:00.960
<v Speaker 17>knowing it. And the old fast Sours at Glen.

0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:05.680
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's right, the building in which I lived when

0:51:05.719 --> 0:51:06.800
<v Speaker 3>I was living in Adelaide.

0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:10.400
<v Speaker 17>Yeah, there's a little old lady called Elsie that was

0:51:10.440 --> 0:51:13.080
<v Speaker 17>there for about thirty for thirty five years. That that

0:51:13.200 --> 0:51:16.320
<v Speaker 17>was dear old mum that was on the Onus Corporation

0:51:16.360 --> 0:51:20.319
<v Speaker 17>committee faithfully for all those years. Yes, anyway, what I

0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:24.680
<v Speaker 17>was reading about. We all remember the Luft Tanser episode

0:51:24.680 --> 0:51:28.080
<v Speaker 17>with the deranged pilot dropping an aircraft down in the mountains.

0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:30.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, German Wings, Yes, it wasn't Loftime, so it was

0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:32.600
<v Speaker 3>a company called German Wings. Yep.

0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:40.080
<v Speaker 17>And apparently your audio records or the audio records showed

0:51:40.280 --> 0:51:44.800
<v Speaker 17>or let us all hear the captain screaming and smashing

0:51:44.800 --> 0:51:47.920
<v Speaker 17>at the door. Yes, and I read with an axe

0:51:48.200 --> 0:51:49.920
<v Speaker 17>now is that true? Does that means there was an

0:51:49.960 --> 0:51:52.080
<v Speaker 17>axe in the cockpit in the cabin.

0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:57.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there there is a crash axe on board. Different

0:51:57.120 --> 0:52:00.719
<v Speaker 3>companies will have it in different places. It's not designed

0:52:00.840 --> 0:52:06.479
<v Speaker 3>as a tool of discipline. It's designed there's different things

0:52:06.480 --> 0:52:08.880
<v Speaker 3>you can do, like prying open panels if there's smoke

0:52:09.040 --> 0:52:12.440
<v Speaker 3>or something, or you know, if Heaven forbid there's an accident,

0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:14.640
<v Speaker 3>that you can chop your way out or use it

0:52:14.680 --> 0:52:17.080
<v Speaker 3>to sort of chop down some trees and things to

0:52:17.360 --> 0:52:20.200
<v Speaker 3>help build a shelter or that type of thing. So, yes,

0:52:20.239 --> 0:52:23.520
<v Speaker 3>I remember hearing that, and they must have had that

0:52:23.680 --> 0:52:26.440
<v Speaker 3>outside the outside the flight deck. So the captain was

0:52:26.440 --> 0:52:28.920
<v Speaker 3>trying to get his way back in. Because of course

0:52:29.200 --> 0:52:35.080
<v Speaker 3>the law of unintended consequences, there's post September eleven, we

0:52:35.160 --> 0:52:38.640
<v Speaker 3>have a blastproof door and we have an entry system

0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:42.360
<v Speaker 3>because the doors used to be just left unlocked and

0:52:42.400 --> 0:52:44.880
<v Speaker 3>people would come in, and we have pered and we

0:52:44.960 --> 0:52:47.359
<v Speaker 3>really have, you know, get visitors and things come up.

0:52:47.640 --> 0:52:49.839
<v Speaker 3>But now, of course since September eleven, then the doors

0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:51.920
<v Speaker 3>are locked and we can lock it from the inside

0:52:51.960 --> 0:52:54.839
<v Speaker 3>and prevent anyone from coming in from the outside. And

0:52:54.840 --> 0:52:59.800
<v Speaker 3>that's what this individual did. Had all sorts of problems,

0:53:00.280 --> 0:53:02.239
<v Speaker 3>and the captain had gone out to go to the

0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:04.439
<v Speaker 3>bathroom and then wasn't allowed back in, and the rest

0:53:04.520 --> 0:53:07.279
<v Speaker 3>is history, so very very sad. But that's why we

0:53:07.320 --> 0:53:09.799
<v Speaker 3>have all sorts of medical assessments and things, and the

0:53:09.880 --> 0:53:12.920
<v Speaker 3>laws are very different here in that if one of

0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:15.680
<v Speaker 3>our doctors felt that we were of any danger to

0:53:15.719 --> 0:53:18.360
<v Speaker 3>ourselves or other people, then they have the duty of

0:53:18.400 --> 0:53:23.200
<v Speaker 3>care and the right to disclose to stop people from

0:53:23.480 --> 0:53:27.440
<v Speaker 3>continuing on, Whereas I believe in Germany that the privacy

0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:30.560
<v Speaker 3>laws were such that there were doctors who knew there

0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:32.960
<v Speaker 3>was a problem but weren't able to actually do anything

0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:33.520
<v Speaker 3>about it.

0:53:34.600 --> 0:53:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so.

0:53:36.680 --> 0:53:39.520
<v Speaker 3>You'd like to think it wouldn't happen here because if

0:53:39.560 --> 0:53:41.879
<v Speaker 3>any doctor had concerns and they have to report it,

0:53:42.320 --> 0:53:45.000
<v Speaker 3>and likewise we would of our colleague if we thought

0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:48.919
<v Speaker 3>something's not right with them, then we would certainly take

0:53:48.920 --> 0:53:50.879
<v Speaker 3>steps to make sure that they got help and weren't

0:53:50.920 --> 0:53:54.279
<v Speaker 3>allowed back in the aeroplane until everything was sorted with them.

0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Anything else there, Bob, No, that was.

0:54:00.040 --> 0:54:04.400
<v Speaker 17>To answer my question. So what's to stop another lunatic

0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:07.000
<v Speaker 17>outside in the cabin getting the.

0:54:07.200 --> 0:54:11.800
<v Speaker 3>X Yeah, well, we don't have them outside inne.

0:54:12.640 --> 0:54:15.839
<v Speaker 17>No, but the captain was using one in this term.

0:54:16.000 --> 0:54:18.440
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's right. Well, they obviously stored it out in

0:54:18.480 --> 0:54:22.759
<v Speaker 3>the cabin. We don't, but he knew where it was, yes,

0:54:22.880 --> 0:54:24.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, we have to know where everything is

0:54:24.719 --> 0:54:27.600
<v Speaker 3>on the airplane, even in the cabin. So yeah, he

0:54:27.719 --> 0:54:29.840
<v Speaker 3>was trying his best to get back in but sadly

0:54:29.920 --> 0:54:30.759
<v Speaker 3>didn't didn't help.

0:54:30.960 --> 0:54:33.520
<v Speaker 17>Well, I finally found out I saw that well, but yes,

0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:34.160
<v Speaker 17>it really did.

0:54:34.120 --> 0:54:36.480
<v Speaker 3>Happen, that's my understanding of it.

0:54:36.560 --> 0:54:40.400
<v Speaker 17>Yes, me the frustrated that poor captain would have.

0:54:40.360 --> 0:54:44.760
<v Speaker 3>Been terrifying knowing that, ye, knowing that you can't do anything.

0:54:44.920 --> 0:54:49.160
<v Speaker 3>There's if there's an air crash investigations episode where something

0:54:49.239 --> 0:54:52.719
<v Speaker 3>similar happened in Mozambique, in fact in Africa, where the

0:54:53.360 --> 0:54:56.080
<v Speaker 3>first officer decided after the captain had left the flight

0:54:56.120 --> 0:54:59.000
<v Speaker 3>deck to do something and it also ended the same way.

0:54:59.400 --> 0:55:02.040
<v Speaker 3>But as I say, we're much more vigilant here, and

0:55:02.080 --> 0:55:07.520
<v Speaker 3>the authorities have more power and that they are required

0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:12.400
<v Speaker 3>to disclose if they feel that someone's potentially got some issues.

0:55:12.840 --> 0:55:15.200
<v Speaker 1>How often, if you don't mind me asking, how often

0:55:15.200 --> 0:55:18.000
<v Speaker 1>do you have some sort of medical medical?

0:55:18.080 --> 0:55:23.160
<v Speaker 3>And now for normal for generally for private pilots, it's

0:55:23.160 --> 0:55:26.440
<v Speaker 3>every two years. Once you get your commercial license and everything,

0:55:26.440 --> 0:55:28.959
<v Speaker 3>it's every year, and then once you hit sixty five,

0:55:29.480 --> 0:55:31.279
<v Speaker 3>then you've got to do it every six months. Yep,

0:55:31.360 --> 0:55:33.279
<v Speaker 3>So I have a medical every six months.

0:55:33.080 --> 0:55:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, cool, sixty five I didn't realize you were

0:55:37.000 --> 0:55:40.359
<v Speaker 1>that on. You look younger than me. That's very kind

0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:45.359
<v Speaker 1>of you to say, signing Leanne is in Migna, Anne, Si,

0:55:46.120 --> 0:55:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Na and Joe Haileen.

0:55:49.360 --> 0:55:52.080
<v Speaker 18>I'm not sure if I don't remember I asked you

0:55:52.200 --> 0:55:54.120
<v Speaker 18>about my little friends that and you said to get

0:55:54.160 --> 0:55:58.919
<v Speaker 18>to do an emergency. Yes, right away, Yes, she had

0:55:59.000 --> 0:56:02.200
<v Speaker 18>some sort of link answer lymphoma.

0:56:02.320 --> 0:56:05.399
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, okay, yeah.

0:56:04.640 --> 0:56:09.680
<v Speaker 18>Yeah, she wasn't a well kitten and she just got

0:56:09.760 --> 0:56:14.759
<v Speaker 18>work got worth anyway. That's one thing I wasn't sure

0:56:14.760 --> 0:56:15.960
<v Speaker 18>if I mentioned that.

0:56:15.840 --> 0:56:18.960
<v Speaker 3>She's no you didn't, we not the follow up, but yeah,

0:56:19.280 --> 0:56:22.280
<v Speaker 3>And that's sometimes how it happens that that often they

0:56:22.400 --> 0:56:25.439
<v Speaker 3>they they're fine, and they're okay for quite some time,

0:56:25.520 --> 0:56:29.480
<v Speaker 3>and then appear to go downhill very quickly, and then

0:56:29.480 --> 0:56:31.480
<v Speaker 3>when you have a look at them and you go,

0:56:31.560 --> 0:56:33.640
<v Speaker 3>hang on, well, this has been building up for some time.

0:56:34.080 --> 0:56:36.719
<v Speaker 3>Animals have a big advantage over us, And as soon

0:56:36.760 --> 0:56:39.600
<v Speaker 3>as we're feeling a little bit odd or we notice

0:56:39.640 --> 0:56:42.520
<v Speaker 3>something a little lump or whatever, then we should get

0:56:42.560 --> 0:56:45.440
<v Speaker 3>ourselves off to the doctor, whereas animals don't. As long

0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:48.920
<v Speaker 3>as they're feeling okay, they just keep going and there

0:56:48.920 --> 0:56:51.200
<v Speaker 3>can be all sorts of things brewing inside them that

0:56:51.800 --> 0:56:54.360
<v Speaker 3>just keep going until it reaches a point where it

0:56:54.400 --> 0:56:58.880
<v Speaker 3>does cause them some problems, and then they'll, yeah, they'll

0:56:58.960 --> 0:57:01.240
<v Speaker 3>go downhill. Appears to be very quickly.

0:57:02.320 --> 0:57:08.719
<v Speaker 18>Also, if I may ask Nathan, I've got a fifteen

0:57:08.840 --> 0:57:11.880
<v Speaker 18>year old cat in one area, two seven year old

0:57:11.960 --> 0:57:14.160
<v Speaker 18>cats in another area, and and I've got a one

0:57:14.239 --> 0:57:16.800
<v Speaker 18>year old in another area. How the hell do I

0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:17.640
<v Speaker 18>integrate them?

0:57:18.320 --> 0:57:21.240
<v Speaker 3>Well, it depends on the individuals. There are some that

0:57:21.320 --> 0:57:24.880
<v Speaker 3>will tolerate each other. There are some that will become buddies,

0:57:24.880 --> 0:57:27.880
<v Speaker 3>and there are some that just they will not. Cats

0:57:28.000 --> 0:57:32.160
<v Speaker 3>are very territorial, and their territory is not one area

0:57:32.240 --> 0:57:35.400
<v Speaker 3>they've discovered. They've had people that have spent time watching

0:57:35.440 --> 0:57:37.600
<v Speaker 3>where cats go and what they do, and they'll have

0:57:38.120 --> 0:57:40.480
<v Speaker 3>a bit of territory here, and a bit of territory here,

0:57:40.480 --> 0:57:43.160
<v Speaker 3>and a bit of territory there. Where you run into

0:57:43.200 --> 0:57:45.920
<v Speaker 3>problems is when they're going from one bit of territory

0:57:45.920 --> 0:57:49.400
<v Speaker 3>to the other because they're going through someone else's territory

0:57:49.760 --> 0:57:52.600
<v Speaker 3>and so that can cause a bit of a problem.

0:57:52.600 --> 0:57:54.240
<v Speaker 3>And that's where you get a lot of these fights.

0:57:54.280 --> 0:57:57.040
<v Speaker 3>When you know when you're getting the cats crossing over.

0:57:57.600 --> 0:58:01.080
<v Speaker 3>So look, it's worth just trying to see if they'll

0:58:01.480 --> 0:58:03.880
<v Speaker 3>cope with each other. And most of them will just

0:58:04.000 --> 0:58:06.640
<v Speaker 3>sort of keep away from each other initially, but if

0:58:06.680 --> 0:58:08.640
<v Speaker 3>you see that they're getting aggressive, then you're just going

0:58:08.680 --> 0:58:11.040
<v Speaker 3>to have to keep them apart. You can try if

0:58:11.040 --> 0:58:14.680
<v Speaker 3>they're indoors a product that I mentioned from time to

0:58:14.720 --> 0:58:18.280
<v Speaker 3>time called feely Way, and it's a plugin thing that

0:58:18.320 --> 0:58:19.960
<v Speaker 3>you put in the wall like one of those air

0:58:20.000 --> 0:58:23.400
<v Speaker 3>freshness and it puts out a pheromone, so a feel

0:58:23.400 --> 0:58:26.400
<v Speaker 3>good hormone that doesn't do anything for us or any

0:58:26.400 --> 0:58:28.840
<v Speaker 3>other species. It's specific for cats. There is a dog

0:58:28.960 --> 0:58:31.520
<v Speaker 3>version of it as well, but if you try that,

0:58:31.520 --> 0:58:33.720
<v Speaker 3>that can help just to calm them down a little.

0:58:33.920 --> 0:58:36.200
<v Speaker 3>And you can pick that up from a pet shop.

0:58:36.560 --> 0:58:38.840
<v Speaker 3>And there's something else you can get from a pet

0:58:38.840 --> 0:58:46.160
<v Speaker 3>shop that it is a milk protein and it will

0:58:47.440 --> 0:58:49.720
<v Speaker 3>just help you put it on the food. You don't

0:58:49.800 --> 0:58:52.200
<v Speaker 3>use the cat dose, who use the big dog dose.

0:58:52.880 --> 0:58:55.000
<v Speaker 3>And because it's just a milk protein, it's not like

0:58:55.040 --> 0:58:57.320
<v Speaker 3>a drug that has to have a particular dose, and

0:58:57.360 --> 0:58:59.160
<v Speaker 3>that can help to take the edge off them as

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<v Speaker 3>well if you do that for a while before you

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<v Speaker 3>try and introduce them. That may help just to put

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<v Speaker 3>them in a better frame of mind and they won't

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<v Speaker 3>get too wound up about sharing territory or finding their

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<v Speaker 3>own territory.

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<v Speaker 1>Or get them all stoned.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's that. Put them in the room after you've

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<v Speaker 3>smoked a couple of joints or something, Leanne, then you know,

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<v Speaker 3>hopefully those and they'll mellow out, although they will be hungry,

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<v Speaker 3>so you do need to give some plenty of food.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm joking, yes, of course, just just to clarify that, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>does that work for you.

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<v Speaker 19>Leanne.

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<v Speaker 3>Sil Kan, Yeah, that's the that's the protein and it

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<v Speaker 3>comes in a capsule. You don't give them the capsule.

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<v Speaker 3>You just open the capsule and then tip it onto

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<v Speaker 3>their food z y l K E n E and

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<v Speaker 3>you use the big dog does and they quite like it.

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<v Speaker 3>So you can just tip it on some wet food

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<v Speaker 3>because it's a powder and no good on dry food.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, and it will just help to just take

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<v Speaker 3>the edge off them. So if you do that for

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<v Speaker 3>a little while, a few weeks before you decide you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to try and introduce them, it might just help

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit as well. And the feely way, So

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<v Speaker 3>there are things you don't need or for which you

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<v Speaker 3>don't need a prescription, so you can you can pick

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<v Speaker 3>those up and see if they're.

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<v Speaker 8>Going to help it all mainly my female yep.

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<v Speaker 3>And give it to all of them. And then that

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<v Speaker 3>way you don't just give it to the one that

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<v Speaker 3>is apparently the bully, because sometimes the bully is only

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<v Speaker 3>defending itself and the other one it's provoking them so

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<v Speaker 3>when you're not looking correct and it's just sometimes the

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<v Speaker 3>body language. So although they're not overtly aggressive, they can

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<v Speaker 3>be very threatening and it's the one that's reacting that

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<v Speaker 3>you think is the one that's the troublemaker, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>just trying to defend itself. So give it to all

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<v Speaker 3>of them. Try it for a few weeks and then

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<v Speaker 3>just see how you go introducing them for short periods.

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<v Speaker 3>Start just before they're due to be fed, and then

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<v Speaker 3>that way you can then put the food back in

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<v Speaker 3>their areas and so they can just have limited exposure

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<v Speaker 3>to each other and see if that helps.

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<v Speaker 1>Excellent, See how you go leand report back in a weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Would be interesting to hear how it goes. Yes, it's

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six to two. That's if you're in Victoria if

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<v Speaker 1>you're in Western Australia twenty six to midnight, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you're in South Australia it's four after one. More with

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<v Speaker 1>Nathan cost in a sec We were talking about trivia

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<v Speaker 1>earlier from Doctor John One reason we like trivia. Each

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<v Speaker 1>time you successfully answer a trivia question, your brain gives

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<v Speaker 1>you a small dopamine boost, creating a sense of accomplishment

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<v Speaker 1>and reinforcing your desire to play again. The dopamine reward

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<v Speaker 1>not only makes trivia fun, but also strengthens your ability

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<v Speaker 1>to recall facts more easily in the future.

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<v Speaker 3>Which makes perfect sense. And that's why people get addicted

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<v Speaker 3>to various things, because you just get a little boost

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<v Speaker 3>of pleasure with that and say you continue or you

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<v Speaker 3>want to continue that behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so that's why I remember a lot of interesting facts.

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<v Speaker 1>But I forget to buy toothpaste when I'm at.

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<v Speaker 3>The shops, absolutely because that doesn't trigger any sort of

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<v Speaker 3>enjoyable emotion.

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<v Speaker 1>Toothpaste doesn't make me happy at all. Maggie's in Adelaide.

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<v Speaker 20>Hi, Maggie, ah, Hi, yeah, Hi there, Simon and Nathan.

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<v Speaker 8>Hello Meggie, Yeah, yeah, Now may.

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<v Speaker 20>I digress somewhat? I don't know which way to go?

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<v Speaker 20>The one club a slasher, the Chase or my children

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<v Speaker 20>And they're different, three children, dark haired, blue eyes, brown

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<v Speaker 20>eyes and all that. So which one shall I start with?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let's start with the one percent club slash the Chase.

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<v Speaker 3>I do like the Chase, I have to say this,

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<v Speaker 3>the English version as well as the Australian version.

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<v Speaker 20>Yes, no, okay, yeah, yeah, I do like the chase,

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<v Speaker 20>but in that case I prefer the Australian version.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, with Larry Ender, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 20>Yeah, but I think it's a little bit too slow sometimes.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's why they're using it up with that wheel

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<v Speaker 3>that they have that boosts the money and that type

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<v Speaker 3>of thing, because I think they're copying a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>pressure from the on Channel nine at the same time

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<v Speaker 3>with todd Woodbridge tipping point and that's a bit more,

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<v Speaker 3>a bit more razmetas so I think they're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>juge up the chase just a little bit as well.

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<v Speaker 20>Oh I haven't watched the the that that one, but

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<v Speaker 20>I've heard of this. Yeah, but I prefer the Australian

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<v Speaker 20>version of the Chase.

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew O'Keefe or Larry Ender.

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<v Speaker 20>Larry and I look, Keith was a flamboyant, and I

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<v Speaker 20>quite liked him despite whatever was you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yafore, his television persona and performance was exceptional good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with.

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<v Speaker 3>That, very talented person and the lawyer by training and

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<v Speaker 3>a singer as well, and nephew of course of the

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<v Speaker 3>late Johnny o'key.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, just some character flaws, ye.

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<v Speaker 20>So Also having said that, I quite like the one

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<v Speaker 20>said club. It's abstraight thinking, you know, that type of thing,

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<v Speaker 20>and so perhaps the UK version it really doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 20>because whatever the questions are, it's not related to that

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<v Speaker 20>of the UK or.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, because sometimes with the quiz shows they ask

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<v Speaker 3>very specific sort of English questions or American questions or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>So but as you say, with the one Percent Club,

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<v Speaker 3>they just it's general brains, brain teasers and puzzles. I

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes find it annoying because you look at it and

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<v Speaker 3>you look at it, and you look at it, I

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<v Speaker 3>haven't got a clue. And then when they tell you

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<v Speaker 3>the answer and explain why you think that is so

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<v Speaker 3>bloom and obvious, why did I not see it?

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm pretty good at those.

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<v Speaker 3>Pictorial and spacious spatial but.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot, for the life of me do a cryptic crossword.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, different skills the Sorry, Maggie, I love them. Cryptic crosswords, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't do them either. I think once you've done

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<v Speaker 3>a number of them, you kind of get the patterns

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<v Speaker 3>and you get the way that they ask the questions.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm like you, Simon, I just you know, some

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<v Speaker 3>of them have the normal clues and the cryptic clues,

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<v Speaker 3>and then when you do the normal one and then

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<v Speaker 3>you look at the cryptic one, you go, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 3>see how they got that. But I couldn't think to

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<v Speaker 3>sort that out. But I guess you get used to it,

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<v Speaker 3>and you get to learn the way that they ask

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<v Speaker 3>these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now, Maggie, we've got to move on. But what

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<v Speaker 1>did you want to say about your kids and genetics?

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<v Speaker 11>Oh?

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<v Speaker 20>Okay, going onto that, Yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 18>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 20>Mother of three children, same baba. The oldest was brown hair,

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<v Speaker 20>brown eyes, second blonde hair, blue eyes, and the third

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<v Speaker 20>well then blonde hair, sort of brownness, shy you go

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<v Speaker 20>one with a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Are you sure you're the mother?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 11>Oh?

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<v Speaker 20>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what It's funny you say that, Simon, because when

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<v Speaker 3>my son was born, he was an absolute dead spinning

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<v Speaker 3>image of me. Yes, and he had I was blonde

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<v Speaker 3>as a child and blue eyes, and my ex very

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<v Speaker 3>dark olive skin, very dark hair and brown eyes. And

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<v Speaker 3>then when Philip was born, they said, well, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>I'm the father, but I can't be sure that Max

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<v Speaker 3>is the mother.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, which people? It takes that moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I go, hang on, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I got that joke. I always say everything I've learned

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<v Speaker 1>I got from comedy Robin Williams when his wife was

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<v Speaker 1>pregnant with it their first child. As part of his

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<v Speaker 1>stand up routine, He's up there on stage doing all

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff and then he says I'm about to become

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<v Speaker 1>a father, and there's a big round of applause, and

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<v Speaker 1>he says, I don't know who the mother is. Very

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<v Speaker 1>funny line. It is, thank you, Maggie. Norma's in w A.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello Norma, good morning him. Good. How's the evening in

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<v Speaker 3>w A?

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<v Speaker 19>Very pleasant? I don't think this much, Rye, but we

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<v Speaker 19>have a nice day today.

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<v Speaker 3>Lovely, very strange weather we're having, isn't it around the place?

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<v Speaker 19>Very odd? Simon. I was in the hospitality yesterday talking

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<v Speaker 19>to a dear Christian friend of mine. Now I asked

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<v Speaker 19>her yesture just about her faith. I said to her,

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<v Speaker 19>if Jesus defeated Satan at Calvary, why did he leave

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<v Speaker 19>him on earth for us to contend with the answer

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<v Speaker 19>really surprised me. Without Satan, the Bible loses all its power,

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<v Speaker 19>fear and purpose.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it. Well, you've got to have a bad guy,

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<v Speaker 3>don't you, and a protagonist in movies and things. Otherwise

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<v Speaker 3>it or gets a bit boring.

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<v Speaker 19>Absolutely, absolutely balance.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got yeah, to have good, you've got to have evil.

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<v Speaker 3>Otherwise there's no counterbalance good.

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<v Speaker 1>If we never knew what sadness was, we wouldn't know

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<v Speaker 1>what it's like to be happy.

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<v Speaker 19>That's right, that's correct, that's correct.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 19>Now, as far as the genie go, I have three children.

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<v Speaker 19>They I've got one olive skin, brown hair, one freckly skinned,

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<v Speaker 19>ginger hair, one Doug frickly skinned, all the same father.

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<v Speaker 19>Unbelievable is that variation right throughout my family?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? Do people ask questions of you?

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<v Speaker 19>Well, it's a funny thing. No, no one's ever no

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<v Speaker 19>one's ever questioned. But the girls were doing their family

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<v Speaker 19>trees and they got there, what do you call it

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<v Speaker 19>when you get your.

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<v Speaker 3>Blood tested DNA tested?

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<v Speaker 19>Yeah, And they said to me, there moment shows that

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<v Speaker 19>were even related to dead's sister.

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<v Speaker 3>That's handy, good to know, will, But no.

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<v Speaker 19>I'd never had any doubts or questions, so I'd never

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<v Speaker 19>questioned it when they came up with.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, although you've got to be careful about those DNA

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<v Speaker 3>tests because a friend of mine who was blonde hair,

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<v Speaker 3>blue eyes, wanted to see if there was any sort

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<v Speaker 3>of Scandinavian blood in the family and did the DNA

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<v Speaker 3>test and found out that preps dad wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, really it is better to know, though, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, yeah, because it gives you a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to find out who you're yes, your blood relatives.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and well they're talking about that also, if you've

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<v Speaker 3>got any genetic conditions that run through the family, then

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<v Speaker 3>at least to be able to identify those and then

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<v Speaker 3>make some decisions if you're going to have kids, that

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<v Speaker 3>type of thing. But yeah, it certainly was through a

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<v Speaker 3>spanner in the works when all of that came out.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, well.

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<v Speaker 1>I did a DNA test, and a cousin of mine

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<v Speaker 1>who also has the same we have our accounts with

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<v Speaker 1>my heritage. Yes, he also did his DNA and we

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<v Speaker 1>came up as cousins. So that's andy good. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>reinforced to know that. Yes, it's just a peace of mind. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, dormt. We must break. We'll get to more

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<v Speaker 1>calls off this and it. You'll be up next. And

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<v Speaker 1>Annett has called from long Weary.

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<v Speaker 6>Hi earn it hid hellah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, good, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello Aett long Worri is a lovely part of the world.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, I've got a golden triever.

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, maybe fifteen months old. Right, he's killing me?

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<v Speaker 3>He what sorry, he's killing me.

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<v Speaker 18>He's chewed my out door.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's chewing he's chewing things, is he?

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<v Speaker 19>Oh?

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<v Speaker 20>Yeah, I want some.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay me?

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>If look, you need to give him some sort of diversion.

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<v Speaker 3>So has he got lots of toys and things that

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<v Speaker 3>he is allowed to chew a lot of.

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<v Speaker 13>Toys, But unfortunately I'm a single month Yeah, I worked

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<v Speaker 13>twenty four to.

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<v Speaker 20>Seven, so I've kn'd even taking walking.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well that's probably part of it, because he's getting

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<v Speaker 3>bored and he's starting just to develop an antisocial behavior.

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<v Speaker 3>If you like one of the things that you can

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<v Speaker 3>get and they're not terribly expensive, a food releasing toy,

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<v Speaker 3>different brands, as a brand called Kong that's probably the

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<v Speaker 3>best known of them, and your stuff them full of food.

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<v Speaker 3>There are ones that you can put in dry food

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<v Speaker 3>or wet food, but peanut butter or liverwurst or paate

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<v Speaker 3>or that type of thing, or there's ones that you

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<v Speaker 3>can put in dry food and as it rolls around,

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<v Speaker 3>it slowly releases the dry food, and that can help

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<v Speaker 3>to keep him occupied for a while. Now, obviously, if

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<v Speaker 3>you're giving him that food, reduce his normal meal by

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<v Speaker 3>that amount. Otherwise he's going to be putting on weight

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<v Speaker 3>because he's giving him the extra food. But it might

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<v Speaker 3>be that you need to do something like that to

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<v Speaker 3>help distract him, because they can take some hours for

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<v Speaker 3>the food to be dispensed, and maybe that's just going

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<v Speaker 3>to keep him away from chomping on things that he

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't chomp. The other thing that you might be able

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<v Speaker 3>to do if you've got a neighbor or a friend

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<v Speaker 3>that's happy or able to take him out walking and

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<v Speaker 3>giving him some stimulation, because otherwise, if he's just sort

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<v Speaker 3>of sitting at home by himself and getting bored, then

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<v Speaker 3>that's how he's picked up this kind of behavior. So

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<v Speaker 3>getting a dog walker or a friend or a relative

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<v Speaker 3>or a neighbor who would be happy to take him

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<v Speaker 3>for walks might help as well. Just to keep him occupied.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's what you need to do, is to

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<v Speaker 3>displace his behavior and keep him occupied and busy, and

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<v Speaker 3>then hopefully he won't be doing all the.

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<v Speaker 10>Chewing, Nathan, he's not on his own.

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<v Speaker 7>He's got a partner.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, even then, you know, it's just he probably wants

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<v Speaker 3>your company. But yeah, try try the food releasing toys

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<v Speaker 3>and see if that helps you at all. If not,

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<v Speaker 3>you might need to find a dog trainer or a

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<v Speaker 3>dog behavior somewhere in your area there and have a

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<v Speaker 3>chat with them and see if they've got some other strategies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know you said that money's a bit tight. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe just googling. Yeah, absolutely a bit for training. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of training things out there. Just be

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit wary.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people have got some pretty unusual ideas about dog training.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, have a look on Google and see. But

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<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, because they're so food driven, and

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<v Speaker 3>particularly golden retrievers, then just giving him something to keep

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<v Speaker 3>him occupied might be it. And it might be that

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<v Speaker 3>his partner is you know, not providing him the stimulation

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<v Speaker 3>that he would otherwise need.

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<v Speaker 1>Good on your net. Good luck with that. Let's know

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<v Speaker 1>in coming weeks how it goes. If you can help

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<v Speaker 1>settle him down there. Yes, another break, we'll be back

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<v Speaker 1>to wrap it up before news. Nathan Cosh is here

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<v Speaker 1>for only another three minutes before he rides off or

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<v Speaker 1>flies off into the sunmit.

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<v Speaker 3>So I get on my broom and head off, so

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<v Speaker 3>we've got.

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<v Speaker 1>Time to squeeze one more calling Simon's in Colac Hi, Simon,

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<v Speaker 1>good Simon.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, my mom had a little cane can terror and

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<v Speaker 7>share a little sunnys a fox and cocky cross can terror.

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<v Speaker 7>He lives. He lives for not doing news in ten months.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a great innings.

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<v Speaker 7>And I am the curly head retriever. Yes, and it's

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<v Speaker 7>and when I was living back and this quake the

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<v Speaker 7>new me. My dog got let off the chain. And

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<v Speaker 7>when I went on the road, Uh see buggies leading

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<v Speaker 7>spreet places. And there's a bit nothing but about muscle

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<v Speaker 7>cleaned down for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, yeah, my friend Mike is Yeah, anyway I

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<v Speaker 3>would have yes, so you still see Mike.

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<v Speaker 7>No, I must off the way in now.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, one of my one of my dear old UNI

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<v Speaker 3>friends whose father, it turns out, who I knew I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know at the time though, was actually a New

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<v Speaker 3>Zealand World War II fighter race. Well really, the course,

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<v Speaker 3>there's some things and I knew, well, it's her name

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<v Speaker 3>of Rhodes, first name of Howard, so of course he

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<v Speaker 3>was known to all and sundry as Dusty Dusty Roads.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, for all the years that I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike only told me later some of his exploits and

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, wow, if only i'd known when he was around.

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<v Speaker 3>Just it's amazing to hear some of the stories of

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<v Speaker 3>these people, not glorifying anything, but just some of the

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<v Speaker 3>stuff that they had to do. And they were, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>sort of eighteen year old kids thrown into the war

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<v Speaker 3>and just terrible. But anyway, he was a real character,

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<v Speaker 3>that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>News is coming up a bit very quickly, Bud Tingwell, Yes, actor,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, my night we're interviewing and

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<v Speaker 1>he's talking about his time during the war flying planes. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, amazing stories. Nathan Coosh, thank you once again

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<v Speaker 1>for Pets and jets.

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<v Speaker 3>My pleasure loved to see assignment.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be back to do it all again next week

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<v Speaker 1>with Tony mac Yes after the News War of your

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<v Speaker 1>Calls one, double three six nine three. Let's get some

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<v Speaker 1>calls happening