Speaker 1: Lot of the airways.
Speaker 2: Here is my request. You don't have to play, but
Speaker 2: you'll do your best. I've been listening to Sure Ray
Speaker 2: and you seem lack of friends.
Speaker 1: Nathan Kosh with his backing group.
Speaker 3: Yes here, I had to buy them dinner tonight. Yes,
Speaker 3: it's getting expensive me coming in here. Yes, but it's
Speaker 3: worth it. Isn't that they do so nice, don't they?
Speaker 1: I think it is. Everyone should have a choir, Yes,
Speaker 1: I think so.
Speaker 3: We do the deep voice thing and you can mix it,
Speaker 3: match it and do all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: And now here's one of the ladies. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit different, but anyway, we try and
Speaker 1: match the voices up. I think it seems to work. Marvelous.
Speaker 3: How are you, Nate, I'm very well. I'm very well.
Speaker 3: I uh just had a well flew to Brisbane and back. Well,
Speaker 3: depending where you are, either this morning or yesterday morning. Yeah,
Speaker 3: of course we're here and everywhere. And we get a
Speaker 3: line check, a flying check every two years. And I
Speaker 3: did mine and everything went okay despite all the fun
Speaker 3: and games that we had. Yeah, it's good, so I'm
Speaker 3: good to go for another two years.
Speaker 1: I was listening, I know I'm not supposed to say this,
Speaker 1: but I was listening to Kyle and Jackie. Oh what Well,
Speaker 1: I listened to the podcasts of bits and pieces of
Speaker 1: their show, and last week, last week, a week before,
Speaker 1: they did a series of calls where they were talking
Speaker 1: to air hostesses flight attendants. Sorry, yeah, there were the
Speaker 1: time sign Well most of them were hostesses and there
Speaker 1: was one bloke who rang in for the segment, but
Speaker 1: the rest were all women and they were just talking
Speaker 1: about the things that the games they play, and some
Speaker 1: of them I wouldn't discuss on here, but there was
Speaker 1: one that I thought was good. On international flights, a
Speaker 1: flight to some of the flight attendants play a game
Speaker 1: called Where's the Cheese? And they get a little bit
Speaker 1: of cheese while everyone's sleeping, and they put it on
Speaker 1: a passenger's shoulder and then then they come back and
Speaker 1: it's and then the other flight attendants have to go
Speaker 1: and find the piece of cheese.
Speaker 3: The things you learn, I'm here for two minutes and
Speaker 3: I've already learned something.
Speaker 1: Well, so now you're up the front, you're up at
Speaker 1: the point were flying. The thing you don't get.
Speaker 3: We miss all of that stuff. No, I've not heard
Speaker 3: of that.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: It's a good game though, isn't it Just you know sometimes,
Speaker 3: you know, when we're bored we get to play ice Spy.
Speaker 3: But that has.
Speaker 1: Very Yeah, something beginning with this, yeah, something beginning with
Speaker 1: them Moon. Yeah, with.
Speaker 3: Again Sky Yeah, that's it. Monty Python Horizon. Yes, Munty
Speaker 3: Python did a sketch about that, which is very funny.
Speaker 3: They were playing ice Spy and then Michael Palin, who
Speaker 3: plays the steward, and you know, he comes in and
Speaker 3: they go, okay, well let's you know, let's let's get
Speaker 3: things going. It's all a bit quiet back there, yes,
Speaker 3: and I think it was John Clees was the captain
Speaker 3: and he goes, ladies and John, there is absolutely nothing
Speaker 3: to worry about. Yes, And Michael Palin's looking out the door. Yes,
Speaker 3: they're all starting to get agitated. Now again, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 3: the left engine is not on fire and goes on
Speaker 3: along those lines and everybody starts panicking in the cabin.
Speaker 3: Now wonderful. Having said that, let me say this. We
Speaker 3: don't do stuff like that. No, we don't muck around
Speaker 3: with people.
Speaker 1: Do you do when you do make announcements? Though? Are
Speaker 1: you allowed to have a bit of personality.
Speaker 3: Oh look, I tend not to because I have no personality,
Speaker 3: but I do have a few of my colleagues that
Speaker 3: are very good. But gee, I think well, as with
Speaker 3: all comedy, you really have to be so very careful
Speaker 3: and given that it's a professional sort of situation, one
Speaker 3: needs to be very mindful. But there are those that
Speaker 3: just have that happy knack of being able to say
Speaker 3: funny stuff, and sadly that's not me.
Speaker 1: See if I were if I was the pilot, right,
Speaker 1: if I were you and you're at Tullamarine Airport in
Speaker 1: Melbourne and you're heading to Perth, I'd love to just say,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, just like changing plans that they were
Speaker 1: heading west to go to Perth, it's going to take
Speaker 1: a little longer than usual, and just do that.
Speaker 3: You know, yes, well most people we've done it where
Speaker 3: by mistake, you know you're going to Perth and you say, oh,
Speaker 3: well you know we're heading off to Sydney and whatever,
Speaker 3: and you get you get no response. Nobody listens to
Speaker 3: the so you can probably get away with any Many
Speaker 3: many years ago, in a little airline where I used
Speaker 3: to work before my current employee, I meant to say
Speaker 3: you're heading east.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 3: No, it works if you say we're heading west anyway,
Speaker 3: just to make it sound like it's something unusual, and
Speaker 3: then most people would.
Speaker 1: Go, I meant to say, I've just missed, completely missing.
Speaker 3: But it works the other way as well. See that's
Speaker 3: the sign of a good joke that it works whether
Speaker 3: you east or west. But yeah, and somebody decided they
Speaker 3: were just going to do their whole pais Donald Duck.
Speaker 3: No one commented, No one cared and listened anywhere. Yes,
Speaker 3: so it's probably a bit of room for latitude. But no,
Speaker 3: I'm very mindful of not because the last thing I
Speaker 3: want to do is offend anybody.
Speaker 1: Or yeah, now, have you ever had what happens if
Speaker 1: mid flight a flight attendant knocks on your door and says,
Speaker 1: we have an unruly passenger. Yes, whose job is that
Speaker 1: to deal with the unruly passenger?
Speaker 3: They do. The flight attendants do, and they're trained.
Speaker 1: Although we're all you don't get to come down with
Speaker 1: your hat on.
Speaker 3: Look, no we don't. We don't get involved. We leave
Speaker 3: it up to the flight attendants. And I think nowadays,
Speaker 3: really since September eleven and what happened there that all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, We've got on a aircraft one hundred
Speaker 3: and eighty air marshals, yes, three passengers, and everybody's going
Speaker 3: to get involved, whereas once upon a time they wouldn't.
Speaker 3: So it has happened.
Speaker 1: And yeah, because I could picture you walking down the
Speaker 1: aisle with the captain's hat on and a parachute and say.
Speaker 3: You have a choice.
Speaker 1: That's how I handled the situation.
Speaker 3: Well, we don't have people are sitting down off do
Speaker 3: we have parachutes? And no, we don't have parachutes, of
Speaker 3: course not, but well one I'm not going to say,
Speaker 3: but yeah, it's no. No, we have to leave it
Speaker 3: to the flight attendants. We leave it to the cabin
Speaker 3: crew to deal with everything and they will enlist help
Speaker 3: or people will be will be helpful. And there was
Speaker 3: a few years ago, I mean it was all over
Speaker 3: the media. It's no secret about someone coming back from Bali,
Speaker 3: what is it about Bali and was absolutely off their
Speaker 3: head with something, and it took They had some army
Speaker 3: personnel on board and they got involved as well, and
Speaker 3: they had to keep this person subdued because for the
Speaker 3: whole flight, and it wasn't long after take off, this
Speaker 3: person was just absolutely off their head for whatever reason,
Speaker 3: be it mental health issue or some sort of chemical
Speaker 3: and they had to basically sit on them and keep
Speaker 3: them subdued for the whole flight to get them in.
Speaker 3: And they were going to diverting where there were reasons
Speaker 3: why they didn't. They did a great job. But yeah,
Speaker 3: they had to keep this person under control. And we're
Speaker 3: look them in the loo or some well, because we're
Speaker 3: going to throw themselves around and do that. That's how
Speaker 3: bad it was. So they essentially just had to just
Speaker 3: hold hold them down for the whole flight. Wow. And
Speaker 3: this person just had unlimited energy just just continue to
Speaker 3: thresh around and be a danger to themselves and to
Speaker 3: everyone around.
Speaker 1: Wow. So but as the pilot, you get to just
Speaker 1: turn the radio up and keep the door locked.
Speaker 3: We do, we do, indeed. But no, they're very well
Speaker 3: trained and that's what they do. And you know, our
Speaker 3: job is to fly the aeroplane and make sure we
Speaker 3: get everybody back on the ground safely, and we leave
Speaker 3: it to those behind the door to deal with what
Speaker 3: they have to deal with.
Speaker 1: I've just never understood. You see social media posts and
Speaker 1: stuff of people going getting angry on off float about
Speaker 1: irrelevant stuff. You know, they're they're putting their bag above
Speaker 1: my seat in the overhead locker. It shouldn't be above
Speaker 1: my seat, and getting angry about it. You just do
Speaker 1: you want to be thrown off the plane?
Speaker 3: Is We're happy to oblige when people behave like that,
Speaker 3: and I've had to do that a few times, But
Speaker 3: generally I think it's that people might be nervous fliers
Speaker 3: or stressed about where they're going, why they're going, that
Speaker 3: sort of thing, and they just behave inappropriately because they've
Speaker 3: just got all this tension and they're all wound up,
Speaker 3: and so they let it out in an inappropriate manner.
Speaker 1: But how many flights do you do each week? On average? Oh?
Speaker 3: Very so, can be anything up to twenty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like on probably on almost every flight, nothing
Speaker 1: ever happened. No, there's very little. Noah has ever.
Speaker 3: What do they say? Our job is ours of sheer
Speaker 3: board and punctuated by moments of sheer terrors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one double three six nine three or one double
Speaker 1: three eight eighty two. If you want to call in,
Speaker 1: Nathan costUS here for a while, looking forward to taking
Speaker 1: your calls, and he is as well as talking airline stuff,
Speaker 1: which is what I generally talk about with Nathan. He
Speaker 1: is also a qualified VET, so he's got an enormous
Speaker 1: brain and you can quiz him on all manner of things.
Speaker 3: If you build me up too much, we're going to
Speaker 3: let people down.
Speaker 1: Well I could if I spent the next ten years
Speaker 1: of my life, I could never qualify to be a
Speaker 1: VET or a pilot litt alone both you could do both. No,
Speaker 1: put your mind to it.
Speaker 3: Ten years done. No, I'll start training tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Jay and I were talking earlier off here about the
Speaker 1: stuff goes in one ear and out the other with us.
Speaker 1: So I've passed the age of learning. I don't take
Speaker 1: anything in anymore.
Speaker 3: Well, it's, as someone once pointed out, it's because as
Speaker 3: you get older, your brain becomes full, so that when
Speaker 3: one piece of information goes in, it pushes something else out.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And the trouble is you don't know what's been pushed
Speaker 3: out until you need.
Speaker 1: It, until you get What gets pushed out every day
Speaker 1: for me is where I put my car keys.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's why they have these whistling ALARMI things for
Speaker 3: car keys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and air tag things as well, just in case
Speaker 1: you've left them in the car. Exactly a break and
Speaker 1: back with your calls. Oh they're coming through now. I
Speaker 1: got on your Lenen, Peter and others. We can see
Speaker 1: the lines wringing there with you all. Very soon we're back.
Speaker 1: Nathan Kosch is here, and Nathan was about to ask
Speaker 1: me a question. Is that for an air or off?
Speaker 3: It's just it's it's it's nothing. It would be too
Speaker 3: boring for Annie. It's going to be boring enough off it,
Speaker 3: but not just I'll ask you in the next break.
Speaker 1: Now we've got Len, Peter and Arthur. If you'll hang
Speaker 1: on just a moment. Guys, Jay, you've managed to find
Speaker 1: that Monty Python sketch that that we were talking about
Speaker 1: just a little earlier. Yeah, ready, ready to roll. Let's
Speaker 1: let's have a listen.
Speaker 5: I spy with minded lie Something beginning with sky high.
Speaker 1: Spine mind Lies something.
Speaker 6: See.
Speaker 1: Ye oh god, I'm bored.
Speaker 7: Let's play another game.
Speaker 8: Hi, do what?
Speaker 9: Hello?
Speaker 10: And this is your captain speaking. There is absolutely no
Speaker 10: cause for a lack.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, not yet, they're thinking. They're thinking, what
Speaker 5: is there absolutely no cause for alarm?
Speaker 8: About?
Speaker 10: Are the wings on fast? The wings are not on fast?
Speaker 10: Now they're thinking, why should he say that?
Speaker 11: So we say, Oh.
Speaker 4: How are we doing?
Speaker 1: I stopped eating with me a bit worried.
Speaker 12: Good, Hang on, one, let's go to the wash room.
Speaker 13: Is he there yet?
Speaker 12: Please return to your seats and fasten your safety don't.
Speaker 3: Yes, here he comes going off the arm.
Speaker 13: You will find your life jackets under your seats. I'm sorry,
Speaker 13: you will find them mony wrecks about your heads. Not
Speaker 13: unfast and you're safe.
Speaker 4: Great, that was marvelous, gobbledly goose.
Speaker 12: The scransons above your head are now ready to flag.
Speaker 12: Please unfasten your safety belts and plass the emergency photo
Speaker 12: scamps on the back of the seats behind you.
Speaker 10: Love meaning about climbing over the seats, but do not
Speaker 10: leave your seats.
Speaker 4: Do not panic. TA will now be sir.
Speaker 12: Inflate your life jacket and extinguish your cigarettes. Please remove
Speaker 12: the luggage from the w recks above your head and
Speaker 12: place it on the recks on the other side of
Speaker 12: the aircraft, except which you should sit on.
Speaker 1: Look, hang on, hold on, they won't jumped out. You know,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be supright because there wasn't some trouble about there.
Speaker 1: It is. It's a great sketch, isn't isn't it just
Speaker 1: the were very good Monty Python And that's one of
Speaker 1: the rare ones we've actually had a tag at the end.
Speaker 3: It was just about to say, usually they just jumped
Speaker 3: from one to the other because they couldn't finish their sketches,
Speaker 3: could they.
Speaker 1: They had no great sketches, but bad punchlines.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but that one, it had one.
Speaker 1: It is great. Len is in Melton High Len.
Speaker 8: Good day, mate, Nathan. I actually ejected a passenger of
Speaker 8: a cross float.
Speaker 3: Yes, was it recently a long time ago?
Speaker 4: Well back?
Speaker 8: Yeah, when I was working there in catering, I was
Speaker 8: checking off catering wise and I was just standing there
Speaker 8: with the going your frank forward going, and passengers are
Speaker 8: coming on. We're having it, you know. Than they were
Speaker 8: settling down and missing it. And the last guy that comes,
Speaker 8: everyone's going, happy New Year, Happy New Year, Happy new
Speaker 8: This was a long time after nine to eleven, this
Speaker 8: guy on and this down and fighting goes happy terrorism.
Speaker 8: Oh the guy and galley with me, Yeah, you better
Speaker 8: go and tell the skiople what he said. And he
Speaker 8: went in and he got turfed out.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, we don't tolerate that sort of behavior, for sure.
Speaker 4: Not.
Speaker 8: It's just one more question, please, Nathan, have you ever
Speaker 8: find choppers?
Speaker 3: No, it's a very different skill.
Speaker 8: The reason asking Tony toy I was on to show
Speaker 8: this Jackie Belgrad and I think it's Tony when I
Speaker 8: stop a right using him one of those old bell
Speaker 8: goppers now doors.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, mash, yep, yep, top jobs.
Speaker 8: And it's just head banks to the right. And you
Speaker 8: think I mean those things normally when they do a
Speaker 8: bank to the right, they're sort of sort of heading
Speaker 8: up upwards, in and upwards. Sit you're back in your
Speaker 8: suit anyway.
Speaker 3: It depends whether it's a descending turn or a level turn.
Speaker 3: A climbing turn would sit you back in your seat. Yes,
Speaker 3: it's what.
Speaker 1: Sorry, it's not going to throw you out.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, Well you've got to have a seat
Speaker 3: belt on anyway, because it is open. I mean, there's
Speaker 3: no way you'd sit in one without a seat belt.
Speaker 8: No, no, exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but speaking of and I'll.
Speaker 8: Tell you what, Mike, you did some great aas I'll
Speaker 8: tell you I reckon. You've been there for a while, haven't.
Speaker 3: You coming up for twenty five years now?
Speaker 8: Nineties?
Speaker 3: No, not yet, not yet. I was flying but not
Speaker 3: with not with I was still in the general aviation,
Speaker 3: building up my hours, getting my experience doing the different
Speaker 3: jobs that we have to do before we get on.
Speaker 3: Like Simon working in country radio. Yeah, same sort of
Speaker 3: thing you do your apprenticeship.
Speaker 8: But I didn't do a lot of domestic raft anyway.
Speaker 8: Were working international.
Speaker 3: Yes, I started off in international and the jumbos for
Speaker 3: three years, and then came to domestic.
Speaker 8: What what what jumbo?
Speaker 1: Are you flying?
Speaker 3: The classic jumbos? The old ones? It's with a well
Speaker 3: for those in the two hundred and three hundreds in
Speaker 3: the sps, but the old ones still had a flight engineer,
Speaker 3: and when we started as second officers we had to
Speaker 3: do a flight engineer's license as well, So I was
Speaker 3: sitting in the flight engineer's seat flipping switches and pushing buttons.
Speaker 3: They were a very very manual aeroplane. These days, everything's
Speaker 3: all done by computers. Flight engineers no longer exist, except
Speaker 3: in the Russian aircraft. They have lots of flight.
Speaker 8: Engineers, all right, tall cross crowds somewhere.
Speaker 3: Along and now. I started in two thousand.
Speaker 8: Two thousand, yeah, yeah, well in what and carrying tracks
Speaker 8: international in eighty four and through two thousand.
Speaker 3: And seven there you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3: So we might have crossed paths somewhere. I was in
Speaker 3: the International in two thousand and from two thousand to
Speaker 3: two thousand and three. But just bringing up that the bell, Bell,
Speaker 3: helicopters and MASH. It was sad news this week that
Speaker 3: Loretta Swit passed away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very sad, Thank you, Lynn, I appreciate the call. Yes,
Speaker 1: very sad. Hot lips all the hands. Yes, I mentioned
Speaker 1: yesterday there were two there were two particular scenes of
Speaker 1: hers in MASH that I just thought were just just
Speaker 1: showed what a great actress she was. There was an
Speaker 1: episode where she had a falling out with the nurses
Speaker 1: because they never invited her to their games, they never
Speaker 1: offered her a cup of coffee or whatever, and she
Speaker 1: felt really sort of ostracized from the rest of the
Speaker 1: nurses just because she was the boss. Yes, So there's
Speaker 1: an episode where she has quite a breakdown over that,
Speaker 1: and I thought she was marvelous. That made me bore
Speaker 1: my eyes out. And there's another episode where there was
Speaker 1: a dog, a stray dog that had gone into camp, Yes,
Speaker 1: and she heard that the dog had been hit by
Speaker 1: a jeep and died, and she lost it over that
Speaker 1: and again just such fantastic acting. And that's the like
Speaker 1: the serious yes here jerking acting, but comic comic wise,
Speaker 1: she was fantastic as well.
Speaker 3: But that was the beauty of Mash, wasn't it that?
Speaker 3: You know? It would go from laughing hysterically to a moment,
Speaker 3: and often it was Radarr O'Reilly who changed the mood.
Speaker 3: They'd all be laughing and carrying on and having mud
Speaker 3: fights and doing whatever, and then he'd stop and get
Speaker 3: up and prick his ears up and you know, say choppers,
Speaker 3: and then everyone had get up and go and clean
Speaker 3: themselves up because they were wounded coming in, so they
Speaker 3: could really switch the mood. The writing was brilliant, the
Speaker 3: acting was amazing, and that's why it's still on TV
Speaker 3: all these years later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great series, and Hawk I pretty much just a
Speaker 1: clone of Groucho Marks. Yes, but what a great job
Speaker 1: Elean Elder did of it, didn't he? Yeah? Great character, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: All right, a break back with more calls in a moment,
Speaker 1: Peter and Arthur, you'll be next. It's twenty five to
Speaker 1: one in Melbourne, twenty five to eleven in Perth, and
Speaker 1: in Adelaide five after midnight. Nathan Cosh is here talking
Speaker 1: Pets and jets and we're taking your calls. Peter's in
Speaker 1: talking for you.
Speaker 6: Nathan, Good Peter, Yeah, good, Good morning guys. Nathan. Look,
Speaker 6: I'm unfortunate enough to go and fly the simulators a
Speaker 6: few times. I'm not a pilot, and I explain to people.
Speaker 6: Everybody's heard it, but a lot of people don't understand it.
Speaker 6: You know when you say armed doors at unarmed doors? Yes,
Speaker 6: and people who's all got to do about the slide
Speaker 6: in the door. In a couple of years, one of
Speaker 6: the slides actually got deployed on the jets Jet when
Speaker 6: it landed at tullim Ring there and everybody's heard it,
Speaker 6: but nobody understands about it.
Speaker 3: Yes, Well, the doors they can either open, just open
Speaker 3: as is, or they can open and deploy their slide.
Speaker 3: So when we pull up at the g and when
Speaker 3: the caterers are coming in everything, obviously it's not a
Speaker 3: good idea to have the slide deploy And it has
Speaker 3: happened around the world at various times, and people have
Speaker 3: been killed because you can imagine this slide that the
Speaker 3: force of this slide has knocked people off catering trucks
Speaker 3: or knocked them off stairs, that type of thing, And
Speaker 3: so we arm doors and disarmed doors. So when we
Speaker 3: disarm them, it means we disconnect the slides from the
Speaker 3: doors so that they can be open normally. And then
Speaker 3: once we all closed up and ready to go, we
Speaker 3: arm them so that if the door had to be
Speaker 3: opened in a hurry for an evacuation or whatever, then
Speaker 3: you push the door open and the slide automatically deploys.
Speaker 3: So it's something that there's a routine. And now the
Speaker 3: flight attendants on the other side of the aircraft be
Speaker 3: left or right, we'll check that the door is armed
Speaker 3: and disarmed properly, just to avoid the potential for someone
Speaker 3: opening a door with the slide still attached and a problem.
Speaker 1: How interesting are you looking to become a pilot, Peter.
Speaker 6: No, No, I just know somebody. I think the last
Speaker 6: time I went there, it's quite easy to fly in,
Speaker 6: but coming into land, I.
Speaker 3: Think it's very difficult, very difficult.
Speaker 6: Can I talk me up a bit here, Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 6: it's a very it's like playing a big video machine
Speaker 6: when you're in there, and it's a great experience.
Speaker 3: Yes it is, And there's not official simulators but around Australia,
Speaker 3: I'm sure in Perth and in Adelaide as well as Melbourne,
Speaker 3: there's a i think they're called Flight Experience or something,
Speaker 3: and you can go and they have a simulator that
Speaker 3: doesn't move, but you can do all sorts of fun
Speaker 3: and games and they'll have generally a general aviation pilot
Speaker 3: who will take you around because they're well versed in
Speaker 3: these things and do some fun stuff in the airplane,
Speaker 3: which of course we don't do fun stuff in the
Speaker 3: airplane do real I.
Speaker 6: Think we've gone under the Harvard Bridge and gone under
Speaker 6: the bridge, and it's amazing how you can land in
Speaker 6: any airport in the world or any runway in the world.
Speaker 6: Cleaning the computers, yeah, oh yeah, it's got all of
Speaker 6: the terrain, it's got all of the visual all the
Speaker 6: graphics and everything there, and it's they're very, very realistic
Speaker 6: these days.
Speaker 3: And of course one of the famous approaches was into
Speaker 3: the old airport at Hong Kong at Kai Tak and
Speaker 3: there was a.
Speaker 1: Bit between the building, yeah, and a big.
Speaker 3: Checkerboard on the hill and you had to sort of
Speaker 3: aim at the checker. I never got to flight for real,
Speaker 3: but I did it in the simulator and you head
Speaker 3: towards this checkerboard and then you reach a certain height
Speaker 3: and then you turn off, and then there's the runway
Speaker 3: down there because you couldn't do a straight in approach
Speaker 3: because the hill was there. So people used to go
Speaker 3: up on the mountain there with the stand at the
Speaker 3: checkerboard and take video and so on. And there's heaps
Speaker 3: of it on YouTube of aeroplanes heading straight for the
Speaker 3: mountain and then peeling off at the last minute and
Speaker 3: going in and landing.
Speaker 1: Is that airport still in news.
Speaker 3: No, they stopped there was close to town, and so they
Speaker 3: closed it up and then all the buildings shot up.
Speaker 3: They built all the tall buildings because there's height restrictions
Speaker 3: on your way into any airport. They have to have
Speaker 3: a safe display where you know, the aircraft have to
Speaker 3: be able to move about freely. And so they actually
Speaker 3: built an island off Hong Kong, yeah, and filled it
Speaker 3: up and then built the new airport there called Czech
Speaker 3: lap Cock And yeah, that's where the airport is. But
Speaker 3: the old Chai Tak closed down many moons ago.
Speaker 1: I just find that amazing. Just go out the middle
Speaker 1: of the bay and start tipping dirt in there and
Speaker 1: they eventually put an airport on.
Speaker 3: The Yep, they do that, and the Chinese are very
Speaker 3: good at doing things like that. Yeah, they get these infrastructure.
Speaker 3: I wonder if they can build a tunnel.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, why why don't we outsource
Speaker 1: that because I'm sure the connecting link for Melbourne, the
Speaker 1: from the Ring Road, yes out to the Eastern Freeway
Speaker 1: that they're doing now. Yes, it's going to take them
Speaker 1: probably another year or so at least at least, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I reckon if we got the Chinese people out
Speaker 1: here who do their stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it'll be done yesterday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they could knock it off in a fortnight at least. Yeah. Incredible.
Speaker 1: Arthur's in Westwood's great, Hi.
Speaker 11: Arthur, good morning, Simon, Nathan and Jay. You know Loretta
Speaker 11: you're talking about from mash She was also in Hawaii five.
Speaker 11: Oh occasionally the old.
Speaker 3: One or the new one?
Speaker 1: The yeah, the original.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've remade it. So there's the one with Jack
Speaker 3: Lord and the one without Jack and the one with Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was trying to cover I don't even know in
Speaker 3: the new one, but if they've changed it all.
Speaker 11: But anyway, I just wanted to ask in Nathan, do
Speaker 11: A Marshall still travel on certain planes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for security reasons, absolutely, they just undercover people who
Speaker 3: will go flowing on aeroplanes just in case.
Speaker 11: Another thing I wanted to bring up. I was watching
Speaker 11: NBC News the American just before local news, and I've
Speaker 11: seen something unusual and this time the birds went outside.
Speaker 11: There was a quite a few pigeons inside the plane
Speaker 11: that dole capturing.
Speaker 3: What did they were they in this cargo and escaped
Speaker 3: or something in the hand like.
Speaker 11: I'm not they were just flying in there inside. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 11: I'm not sure which company it was.
Speaker 3: They couldn't come in from outside, so they must have
Speaker 3: somehow without a ticket, not without a ticket and going
Speaker 3: through security of course, but yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 11: I'm sure see one being captured. So, like you said,
Speaker 11: there must have been a cargo or for a minute
Speaker 11: of the escape.
Speaker 3: Maybe a magician had had a bag full of birds
Speaker 3: that escaped, or.
Speaker 1: If it's just a little like domestic flight and you're
Speaker 1: going up the stairs the door lie in. Yeah, possibly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's probably the most likely explanation for a bird actually
Speaker 1: being inside the body of the.
Speaker 3: Will you see them in the terminal quite regularly. You
Speaker 3: see sparrows and things that have flown in when the
Speaker 3: when the doors have been open, and you see them
Speaker 3: flapping around in the terminal, and they do have after
Speaker 3: hours there are people from the airport with big nets
Speaker 3: that try and catch them around.
Speaker 1: And chase them. Yeah, it happens in shopping centers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, anything like that. But just when you're
Speaker 3: talking about Hawaii five Ozho and Jack Lord and the
Speaker 3: building there the Ilakai when he's those who remember he's
Speaker 3: standing on the balconoor and then yeah, there's a there's
Speaker 3: a close up of him. Just around the corner from
Speaker 3: there is a little marina, and that marina was from
Speaker 3: whence the SS Minnow departed? Oh was it for Gilligan's Island?
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 3: Yes, so that's where they filmed the Minnow the data
Speaker 3: uture for a three hour tour.
Speaker 1: And in the ISLD episode, apparently the if you look
Speaker 1: at the background there was the flag was flying at
Speaker 1: half mast and that was because it was the death
Speaker 1: of j. Hays assassination. Okay, so it was filmed at
Speaker 1: that time, right, so the flag was at half mast.
Speaker 1: I remember reading that as a as a trivial piece
Speaker 1: and thinking.
Speaker 3: Now, why is it that if I said to you now, Simon,
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you something that is going to
Speaker 3: save your life. This is going to change your life forever.
Speaker 3: Within about ten seconds, you're going to forget it. Yes,
Speaker 3: But if I tell you who are you? Look? Yeah,
Speaker 3: he is just a nonsensical figure or fact or figure
Speaker 3: or whatever. It will never be forgotten.
Speaker 1: That's the stuff I remember, ye pointless, ye rubbish. That's
Speaker 1: just not important at all.
Speaker 3: I think we're all like that really, just one of
Speaker 3: those weird things.
Speaker 1: There was a sketch on a radio show called I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'll read that again, and it was a John and
Speaker 1: Betty sketch, male and female having an argument, and the
Speaker 1: character of John said I've got something to tell you
Speaker 1: and she says yes, and he says Cardinal Rieschlu died
Speaker 1: in sixteen forty two. Oh no, And she says, all right,
Speaker 1: so mother was wrong. Well I've always remembered Cardinal Rieschlu
Speaker 1: died in sixteen forty two. It was just a funny,
Speaker 1: funny little line. But I remember that, yes, so yeah,
Speaker 1: unusual fact.
Speaker 3: But his mother was wrong, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: But Cardinal Richelieu, if you're interested people died in sixteen
Speaker 1: forty two, and yeah, I don't know why. I've always
Speaker 1: remembered that when you go on the chase, Yeah, well
Speaker 1: he wants to a millionaire or hot seed or whatever. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: a million dollar question. When did Cardinal reeschlu die?
Speaker 3: You'll be screaming at the television?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Have you ever done that? Have you ever watched that?
Speaker 1: One percent?
Speaker 3: Class Bits and Pieces? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I love that?
Speaker 3: Which one the English one, of the Australian one, well.
Speaker 1: The English one Udley mac Yeah, Lee is so funny.
Speaker 1: Lee Mack is one of the greatest comic talents. I've
Speaker 1: ever seen him.
Speaker 3: And have you've seen him on? Would I lie to you?
Speaker 1: I've seen clicks.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's just amazing those the people that do that.
Speaker 3: It is so so funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're very good. The original show that I first
Speaker 1: saw Lee mac on was a show called The Sketch Show, right,
Speaker 1: and it's some of the funniest television I have ever
Speaker 1: seen in my life.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the cast I don't know who all the other
Speaker 1: I don't remember all their names, but there was three
Speaker 1: guys to girls and they just did all these wonderful sketches,
Speaker 1: just pure brilliance, Absolutely brilliance.
Speaker 3: I mean, isn't that the thing? I mean, we Australia
Speaker 3: had it. It's a golden period of sketch comedy when
Speaker 3: there was fast forward comedy companies. Yeah, and Magda Zabanski
Speaker 3: was in the news as well. He's going through some
Speaker 3: tough times at the moment.
Speaker 1: Yeshuawell macder if you're listening, sending all our love Magda
Speaker 1: a legend. Yes, we better get another breakout of the
Speaker 1: way surge and Bob you'll be up next. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to Australia overnight. Nathan Cosh is here and we're taking
Speaker 1: your calls. Surgery is in Williamstown High Surgery.
Speaker 14: Shallow boys. I hope you're going having a good night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you why why are you up the sash.
Speaker 14: I was not even to talk about it, but I've
Speaker 14: mentioned it briefly. I'm actually airline pilot and I'm on
Speaker 14: holiday in Australia for the next three months. My daughter
Speaker 14: gave birth to her to her kids.
Speaker 3: Congratulations you're visiting, Yes.
Speaker 14: Yes, thank you. I fly the Big three fifty aircraft
Speaker 14: is beautiful air Yeah, with whom Turkish Airlines?
Speaker 3: Okay, what Turkish airlines are coming to Australia now, of
Speaker 3: course I know, but only the seven eight seven so.
Speaker 14: Well, no, it's actually they come last year and they're
Speaker 14: flying E three fifty aircraft. At the moment, I actually
Speaker 14: flew the not the inaugirl but the second flight to
Speaker 14: Australia on the three fifty aircraft and it is a
Speaker 14: primary aircraft is flying between Melbourne and Singapore to Istanbul.
Speaker 3: Yes, they're very very good airline Turkish.
Speaker 14: Oh, it's very good airline and is obviously offered im
Speaker 14: on the economy and business class, but is the corptual
Speaker 14: and the service it is the main thing. So I
Speaker 14: love being a pilot is my favorite thing.
Speaker 3: Yes, good and you've been doing it for a while.
Speaker 14: Yes, I come met at the Air Force. Yes, and
Speaker 14: then obviously the transitioned onto initially the Bowing seven thirty
Speaker 14: seven and then you know us E three thirty and
Speaker 14: now the three fifties. From the pilot in command, well done,
Speaker 14: the captain, thank you, Thank you boys.
Speaker 1: Was there always a dream of your surgery from a
Speaker 1: young boy.
Speaker 14: Of course. You know my father was actually pilot, so
Speaker 14: but he was not civilian pilot. He was a military pilot.
Speaker 14: But I not have much interesting in military pilot. But
Speaker 14: in Turkey you have to go through the military to
Speaker 14: actually progress to civilian aircraft.
Speaker 3: Yes, here we have some of some of my colleagues
Speaker 3: came through the military and others. Most of us came
Speaker 3: through civilian light aircraft and all the rest of it
Speaker 3: and then moved on into the airlines. So that's that's
Speaker 3: lovely that you hear. For that you're able to take
Speaker 3: a break and here with your grandchild and with your daughter.
Speaker 3: And William Williams townspecially went.
Speaker 14: To watch I actually went to watch my son's team.
Speaker 14: There's a big thing going on in Melbourne with social
Speaker 14: media and I do see it on TikTok as well
Speaker 14: as the football is futsal and actually I went to
Speaker 14: watch my son play in Moroban today and this team
Speaker 14: is actually KFFC. They're getting a lot of publicity online
Speaker 14: and this and that, but I want to watch them
Speaker 14: drive from Ristown. Very underwhelming my son's team. They destroy
Speaker 14: they destroyed this team. I was very underwhelmed.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 14: I don't like teams to promote themselves like this Keft team,
Speaker 14: but they're not delivered on the field. They were embarrassing.
Speaker 14: They got smashed. Yes, they took a big game on
Speaker 14: social media, but they're not delivered. You know, is underwhelming,
Speaker 14: is embarrasting often. I know they're just kids, but it
Speaker 14: is not good enough.
Speaker 3: Yes, but isn't isn't it much better to be supporting
Speaker 3: the team that's doing the smashing rather than the one
Speaker 3: that's getting clovered.
Speaker 14: Of course, But you know, I see these boys that
Speaker 14: some of them on Turkish origin, some of the more
Speaker 14: Greek origin. You think, you know, they have bigger representation,
Speaker 14: you know, a big community, but you know, I want
Speaker 14: to see them do well. And then they're not doing well. Man,
Speaker 14: You know, you have to represent the community well. And
Speaker 14: you know this team is Anglo team who I play
Speaker 14: against My son is my son is Turkish, but he's
Speaker 14: playing for Anglo team and you know he's playing against
Speaker 14: his team. You know, I expect you know, the team.
Speaker 14: You know, they're usually passionate Europeans, but men they play,
Speaker 14: they're a lubbish man, you know. But it is good
Speaker 14: to see that it's growing. It is that's growing in
Speaker 14: the state of Victoria. Yeah, I really like this.
Speaker 1: Yes, now, Sergey, quick question for me because your kids
Speaker 1: are here, but you're over here. On holiday, could you
Speaker 1: I would you ever consider like leaving Turkish Airlines and
Speaker 1: getting a job with local comping Quantas well.
Speaker 14: The problem is is seniority with pilots, as you understand.
Speaker 14: So I'd live there but this three fifty as captain,
Speaker 14: but probably would not have the same seniority coming onto
Speaker 14: getting the three fifty. But I would be your first officer.
Speaker 14: I'll be senior first officer, yes, likely so, And this
Speaker 14: is the problem. You know, I'm fifty eight, I've got
Speaker 14: seven more years of flying, you know by the time
Speaker 14: I build myself up as pilot within Quantas.
Speaker 3: Yes, you wouldn't get a command. Again, just for those
Speaker 3: that don't know, most airlines work on a seniority system,
Speaker 3: so it's based on your date of joining. Oh okay,
Speaker 3: so as you just you become the bottom of the
Speaker 3: pile when you join, and then over the years you
Speaker 3: gradually build up in seniority then and then it's yeah,
Speaker 3: so your ability to be promoted or going onto the
Speaker 3: different fleets and all the rest of it. It all
Speaker 3: just depends on how long you've been in the company.
Speaker 3: So if Sergey was to come to well, any other
Speaker 3: airline really, although there are some that do contracts take
Speaker 3: contract pilots, and so you can work for a while
Speaker 3: as you can come in directly as a captain. But yeah,
Speaker 3: if you're going to join the mainline operation of most
Speaker 3: of these airlines, be they Virgin quantas, whatever, that even
Speaker 3: with all the experience that Sergei has, he would be
Speaker 3: the most junior pilot in the new company and have
Speaker 3: to start again. You don't take your rank with you.
Speaker 1: Is there a logical reason for that? Pure it doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense them.
Speaker 3: There is in that it's very fair and it's very
Speaker 3: transparent as far as promotions are concerned, because there are
Speaker 3: other companies where they don't do it, and you know,
Speaker 3: nepotism reigns supreme, or if you know you're in favor
Speaker 3: with management, then people get promoted early on, and so
Speaker 3: it becomes a bit of an issue, whereas with a
Speaker 3: seniority number, it's transparent to all. And then when they say,
Speaker 3: right next to you, we've got this number of positions
Speaker 3: on this fleet or this number of positions on that fleet,
Speaker 3: and you bid to go across or you put your
Speaker 3: hand up, and then it just works in order of seniority.
Speaker 3: So it's not a perfect system, but at least it's
Speaker 3: fair and least in our way. Yeah, that people can't
Speaker 3: sort of get promoted well out of seniority just because
Speaker 3: they happen to get on well with the management or
Speaker 3: that type of thing.
Speaker 1: All right, we've got to get another break, and thank you,
Speaker 1: sergery grankful. I appreciate that. Me sitting back listening to
Speaker 1: two pilots talk to.
Speaker 3: Each yetscoring as bat droppings, isn't it?
Speaker 1: It was great? Good call back in a minute right
Speaker 1: over for those on hold, if you'll happily hang on
Speaker 1: because Gabriel Hodson's about to bring you the latest news,
Speaker 1: and then Nathan Kosh will stick around because Maggie sent
Speaker 1: a text through if night flying Bat's a problem and
Speaker 1: Nathan has said they're not, but it's just led to
Speaker 1: something interesting, Nathan, which we'll talk about after the news.
Speaker 3: If you're okay we can do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because yeah, you do occasionally hit things, which we
Speaker 1: will discuss that and take one of your calls with
Speaker 1: our number two with Nathan coj Pets and jets here
Speaker 1: on Australia overnight.
Speaker 15: Yes, now this is a stranger Open Eyes with Simon Owen's.
Speaker 1: Take you back to your days on the Fox or
Speaker 1: on Triple M.
Speaker 3: Sorry, yes, yes.
Speaker 1: Hungry like the Wolf, Yes.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's not funny. You know we I think we
Speaker 3: all move with the music of our time, don't we.
Speaker 3: So when we're when we're young, it's the cutting edge
Speaker 3: and everything, and then you start to change radio stations
Speaker 3: and move along with it and that becomes your era
Speaker 3: of music until you get to the point where you
Speaker 3: can't hear it anymore. And then it's too.
Speaker 1: Bad because no one's catering.
Speaker 3: Catering for it. Yeah, that's radio for the death work.
Speaker 1: But none, none of us hit listeners. Now we're all
Speaker 1: into the gold net.
Speaker 3: That's right exactly. But you know that's at the time though,
Speaker 3: of course it was. You know, we all thought we
Speaker 3: were you know, yeah, we're pretty cool and all this
Speaker 3: great music that was going on. And now you look
Speaker 3: at the revival tours, the defibrillated tour of all of
Speaker 3: these bands, you know.
Speaker 1: Phil Phil Collins last tour was called not Dead Yet. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: so it says it all, doesn't it. That's the voice
Speaker 1: of Nathan Kosh If you've just joined us. Simon Owens
Speaker 1: in the chair for Tony McManus again this morning, Jay
Speaker 1: is here as well taking your calls, and Nathan Kosh
Speaker 1: is in the studio with pets and jets. Now, just
Speaker 1: before we do get back to your calls and thank
Speaker 1: you for hanging on. Maggie did send a text for
Speaker 1: you saying if you're flying at night, bat's a problem.
Speaker 3: Yes, they're not usually, although I did one night actually
Speaker 3: ironically landing in Adelaide, where Maggie lives. Just as I
Speaker 3: was touching down, heard a splat on the wind screen.
Speaker 3: And when we taxi back in this was at night,
Speaker 3: and there was a big, big mark on the wind
Speaker 3: screen and we call the safety officers who were patrolling
Speaker 3: the airport all the time, and they had a look
Speaker 3: and they found a poor little fruit bat that it
Speaker 3: got in our way. But that's a normally very very
Speaker 3: good at keeping away from aeroplanes because they're so na
Speaker 3: it's very good. But this one, maybe I don't know.
Speaker 3: I was looking for some food or something that just
Speaker 3: you know, you just lose concentration for one minute and
Speaker 3: it's all over. He's probably checking his Instagram, might have done.
Speaker 1: But now you did say that when we spoke about
Speaker 1: this during the outbreak before the news, you did say
Speaker 1: that on occasions a bird will Yes there's a bird striker,
Speaker 1: but just hopefully not a large one. But yes, it
Speaker 1: does happen. And you said something off here that really
Speaker 1: intrigued me. Do you want to repeat what that was?
Speaker 3: Yes, Well, when just by way of background, with the engines,
Speaker 3: then we take some of the compressed air out of
Speaker 3: that engine and then run it back into the cabin
Speaker 3: as well through an air conditioning machine. But that forms
Speaker 3: the a the air conditioning, and be the pressurization because
Speaker 3: we pump up the cabin like a pressure vessel. That's
Speaker 3: why we can fly as high as we can. If
Speaker 3: we were up at thirty five thousand feet without pressurization,
Speaker 3: then you know it's not breathe living you would be
Speaker 3: able to breathe exactly. So they tap air off. Having
Speaker 3: said that, the newer ones now have separate electrical machines anyway,
Speaker 3: but most of the aeroplanes have still got where they
Speaker 3: take the air off or bleed air they call it,
Speaker 3: and take it away from the engine. And if you
Speaker 3: look at a modern jet engine, then the inner bit
Speaker 3: is called the core, so the actual engine is very small,
Speaker 3: and then around it you have the fan, so it's
Speaker 3: like a propeller, but it's all in case within that engine.
Speaker 3: So the middle bit is the actual engine. The outer
Speaker 3: bit is just air that gets pushed by that propeller
Speaker 3: around the side of the engine. Helps keep the noise down,
Speaker 3: helps keep the engine cool, and it's just very efficient
Speaker 3: way to go. So if you do happen to hit
Speaker 3: a bird, and we did not that long ago, and
Speaker 3: it went around the side of the engine and we
Speaker 3: just felt a little vibration, and we're monitoring it and
Speaker 3: they can. We've got real time data that goes back
Speaker 3: on the ground and the engineers we're having a look
Speaker 3: and going, oh, yeah, look, everything's fine. You're okay to
Speaker 3: keep going. But if it goes down the middle of
Speaker 3: the engine, because it gets very hot, you know, it's
Speaker 3: up at around seven or eight hundred degrees celsius, you
Speaker 3: can get a smell of burnt bird, a roast chicken
Speaker 3: kind of smell that goes into the cabin for a
Speaker 3: short time KFC because it's over livered yep, because the
Speaker 3: bird's gone through the main part of the engine and
Speaker 3: sort of cooked instantly, and the air that's been tapped
Speaker 3: off the engine as it goes through the machine. You
Speaker 3: still get a little bit of that smell for a
Speaker 3: short time. So that's a giveaway that a bird has
Speaker 3: actually gone through the actual core, the middle of the engine.
Speaker 1: So if ever you're on a plane and you go
Speaker 1: it smells like chicken, yeah, it's a chance you've just
Speaker 1: collected a poor little birdie on the way.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 1: How fascinating is that it's always educational working with you, Nathan.
Speaker 3: And for me too, I learned what's about.
Speaker 1: I don't think you learn a lot from me.
Speaker 3: I do, I do. Don't talk yourself down.
Speaker 1: Bas is in North Geelong High bas Hey.
Speaker 4: You go, he got good.
Speaker 9: Oh, I've had a bad day that I had to
Speaker 9: go and see my grandfather. He's been dead forty four
Speaker 9: years and I'll love him to death. When I was cheap,
Speaker 9: we don't ever listen together, you don't it. Yeah he
Speaker 9: was in World War two.
Speaker 4: Yes, he brought he built a big camp in Walla,
Speaker 4: Waller for the Croatians because with a Nachi's time and
Speaker 4: we like the ma.
Speaker 3: Son like an internment, an internment camp for people. They
Speaker 3: did that with Japanese people as well, and Germans, I
Speaker 3: guess too.
Speaker 9: And yeah, and then Brendad when I was seized Europe.
Speaker 9: Do you know the austrange that they sent there took
Speaker 9: out eighty percent of Europe?
Speaker 3: Was the Australian continue punched well above their weight? Is
Speaker 3: what you Is that what you mean?
Speaker 4: Oh? Of course, Yeah.
Speaker 16: The grandfather got to Europe.
Speaker 9: Croatians.
Speaker 1: Thanks for the call, Bas, but we'll well, we might
Speaker 1: just move on from that conversation. Fascinating as it as
Speaker 1: it is, and we do appreciate your call, and you're
Speaker 1: reminiscing about your grandfather, yes, but yeah, there's just for
Speaker 1: the time of the morning and the sort of audience
Speaker 1: we're chatting to, we might just move on from that conversation.
Speaker 1: But we do appreciate the call and thank you very
Speaker 1: much for it.
Speaker 3: Yes, war is it's not a pretty thing, is it? No,
Speaker 3: on many levels, on all levels.
Speaker 1: Yeah. There's a christ Bergh song yes, called Borderline, just
Speaker 1: a lovely one line in it that always struck with me.
Speaker 1: These are only boys and I will never because so
Speaker 1: many people were just teenage. Yes, yes, these are only
Speaker 1: boys and I will never know how men can see
Speaker 1: the wisdom in a war.
Speaker 3: Yes, great great lyric by christ.
Speaker 1: Burgh, very true. Jim is in West foods Gray, How
Speaker 1: are you, Jim.
Speaker 16: Not too bad, Good morning, Simon, Nathan and Jay. The
Speaker 16: song is said about Phil Collins being something that I'm
Speaker 16: not being dead.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Phil Collins last tour when he came out
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. The tour was actually called
Speaker 1: the Not Dead Yet Tour.
Speaker 16: Ah, that's very strange because Pink had a song I'm
Speaker 16: not Dead Yet or something like that.
Speaker 3: Who pinched it? From whom?
Speaker 16: I would have been Phil Collins. I must have pinched
Speaker 16: the first, because I don't ever remember Phil Colin singing that.
Speaker 1: But I remember I know it wasn't a song. It
Speaker 1: was the name of his tour, like oh.
Speaker 3: Like Eagles with hell freezes over to Yeah.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think actually had a song I'm not dead
Speaker 16: or I'm not dead yet anyway. Nathan, Yes, a while back,
Speaker 16: I heard you talking about toward the shell cats and
Speaker 16: ginger cats. Yes, I had three Tordos cats and I
Speaker 16: named them are Missy because they all looked like crimees
Speaker 16: off each other. And I named the more Missy in
Speaker 16: memory of one of the other. Yes, and my last
Speaker 16: one I had fo seventeen.
Speaker 3: Years, which that's a very good deal.
Speaker 16: And like in shop, I remember Diamond when when she died.
Speaker 16: I rang you and Philip one remember when, and I
Speaker 16: was in shop and you and Philip were comforting me
Speaker 16: that I thought I'll never get another animal again. Then
Speaker 16: I decided to get goldfish and I bought I used
Speaker 16: to call the black ones goggle eyes. And when I
Speaker 16: went to the aquarium he said, I think he said,
Speaker 16: the proper name for him is blackmore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, black Moore goldfish, that's right.
Speaker 16: I started off with two of them one I actually
Speaker 16: started with one, then got another. I had a very
Speaker 16: large tank. I bought ten all together, and they grew
Speaker 16: very big. I'll still even though they grew big, my
Speaker 16: tank was very big. I had two pumps in there
Speaker 16: in case one do yep. And anyway, after they died,
Speaker 16: I thought I'll never at an animal again. But one
Speaker 16: thing I told Dennis that one time went on is
Speaker 16: being what do you know and that someone else doesn't know?
Speaker 16: And I told him the goldfish have a lifespan of
Speaker 16: thirty years if they don't get sick. And then I
Speaker 16: said that can't be possible. I've put a goldfish in
Speaker 16: the bowl miles dead in the week. So then Dennis
Speaker 16: decided to look it up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he said.
Speaker 16: Longest living goldfish in the world was forty two years old.
Speaker 16: Back to the tortoise.
Speaker 3: Cat, totoisell yep.
Speaker 16: Yeah, the tortoiseshell cats. I had three of them, and
Speaker 16: I used to know the manager Savors in Butts Gray.
Speaker 16: I don't know how we got talking about cats. I
Speaker 16: said to him, I've had three cat tortoise shell cats,
Speaker 16: the whole female. I've never come across a male cat.
Speaker 16: And he said to me, I own a male cat.
Speaker 16: But why I bring it up Because I heard you
Speaker 16: saying that the male tortoise cats are all born steroid.
Speaker 3: Ah, yes, because coat coloring.
Speaker 16: Yes, I go the other thing. I also had two
Speaker 16: ginger cats in the bath.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 16: I can't remember why you're saying about ginger cats. If
Speaker 16: you can.
Speaker 3: Remind you, Yeah, ninety nine percent of ginger cats are male,
Speaker 3: one percent of them a female. But the difference between
Speaker 3: that and the tortoiseshells is the female ginger cats are fertile,
Speaker 3: whereas the one percent of tortoiseshell cats which are male,
Speaker 3: are infertile.
Speaker 1: So how do you make more Well.
Speaker 3: They just end up the coat color. It ends up
Speaker 3: quite random. You can there are dominant and recessive genes.
Speaker 3: But if you have a look at a litter of kittens,
Speaker 3: they can be all different colors and sort of nothing
Speaker 3: like either of the parents.
Speaker 1: So I like a black tom cat mates with a
Speaker 1: female tortoise shell, you might get some black cats in
Speaker 1: some tortoish.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it depends whether the gene is expressed. You
Speaker 3: need to have a recessive gene. You need to get
Speaker 3: the gene from both sides, male from the father and mother,
Speaker 3: whereas a dominant gene, if there's one, it's one or
Speaker 3: the other, and that will express.
Speaker 1: That your brown eyes and blue eyes.
Speaker 3: Ya, blue eyes are recessive, So you have to have
Speaker 3: both parents that give you the gene for blue eyes.
Speaker 3: But you can have two brown eyed parents that give
Speaker 3: you a blue eyed child.
Speaker 1: Well that's my wife and myself. Our daughter Shannon has
Speaker 1: blue eyes.
Speaker 3: Yes, because if you both have the blue geen and
Speaker 3: then just depending on how the egg and the sperm
Speaker 3: work out, then they can have the blue gen from
Speaker 3: the from the mother, a blue jean from the father.
Speaker 3: And yeah, two brown eyed parents can have a blue
Speaker 3: eyes and got.
Speaker 1: The blue from both. My wife and I obviously both
Speaker 1: have a blue and a brown geen. Yes, yeah, because
Speaker 1: my sister also has blue eyes and my wife's uncle
Speaker 1: has blue eyes.
Speaker 3: Yes, so it runs there and the blue hidden in
Speaker 3: the backward. It can sit for generations before it gets expressed.
Speaker 3: You have to have a parent. The other parent has
Speaker 3: to have the blue jean as well.
Speaker 1: And then my second daughter, Rachel had like black plossom eyes.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, but you'll still probably yeah, well she could
Speaker 3: still well carry the blue.
Speaker 1: Yes, she might, yes, exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a genetics is incredible, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: Where would my baldness have come from? My grandfather on
Speaker 1: on both sides had here.
Speaker 3: Yes, are you sure that?
Speaker 1: Oh? Oh yeah, there's a question I've never asked. Oh
Speaker 1: that's interesting.
Speaker 3: Was there a board milkman?
Speaker 1: Proh.
Speaker 3: God, there's got some questions to be answered.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'll investigate that a little further. A break and
Speaker 1: then Bob Lee and Maggie and Norma will be with
Speaker 1: you in a sick I'm quite thrown. Hello there, welcome
Speaker 1: back to Australia overnight. Simon Owen's in the chair for
Speaker 1: Tony Mac and Nathan Coosh is here as well taking
Speaker 1: your calls. Bob is in cue good.
Speaker 4: Bob, don't good morning?
Speaker 17: Should I say, and Nathan last time we spoke, well,
Speaker 17: recall that you and I cross paths many times without
Speaker 17: knowing it. And the old fast Sours at Glen.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's right, the building in which I lived when
Speaker 3: I was living in Adelaide.
Speaker 17: Yeah, there's a little old lady called Elsie that was
Speaker 17: there for about thirty for thirty five years. That that
Speaker 17: was dear old mum that was on the Onus Corporation
Speaker 17: committee faithfully for all those years. Yes, anyway, what I
Speaker 17: was reading about. We all remember the Luft Tanser episode
Speaker 17: with the deranged pilot dropping an aircraft down in the mountains.
Speaker 3: Yeah, German Wings, Yes, it wasn't Loftime, so it was
Speaker 3: a company called German Wings. Yep.
Speaker 17: And apparently your audio records or the audio records showed
Speaker 17: or let us all hear the captain screaming and smashing
Speaker 17: at the door. Yes, and I read with an axe
Speaker 17: now is that true? Does that means there was an
Speaker 17: axe in the cockpit in the cabin.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there there is a crash axe on board. Different
Speaker 3: companies will have it in different places. It's not designed
Speaker 3: as a tool of discipline. It's designed there's different things
Speaker 3: you can do, like prying open panels if there's smoke
Speaker 3: or something, or you know, if Heaven forbid there's an accident,
Speaker 3: that you can chop your way out or use it
Speaker 3: to sort of chop down some trees and things to
Speaker 3: help build a shelter or that type of thing. So, yes,
Speaker 3: I remember hearing that, and they must have had that
Speaker 3: outside the outside the flight deck. So the captain was
Speaker 3: trying to get his way back in. Because of course
Speaker 3: the law of unintended consequences, there's post September eleven, we
Speaker 3: have a blastproof door and we have an entry system
Speaker 3: because the doors used to be just left unlocked and
Speaker 3: people would come in, and we have pered and we
Speaker 3: really have, you know, get visitors and things come up.
Speaker 3: But now, of course since September eleven, then the doors
Speaker 3: are locked and we can lock it from the inside
Speaker 3: and prevent anyone from coming in from the outside. And
Speaker 3: that's what this individual did. Had all sorts of problems,
Speaker 3: and the captain had gone out to go to the
Speaker 3: bathroom and then wasn't allowed back in, and the rest
Speaker 3: is history, so very very sad. But that's why we
Speaker 3: have all sorts of medical assessments and things, and the
Speaker 3: laws are very different here in that if one of
Speaker 3: our doctors felt that we were of any danger to
Speaker 3: ourselves or other people, then they have the duty of
Speaker 3: care and the right to disclose to stop people from
Speaker 3: continuing on, Whereas I believe in Germany that the privacy
Speaker 3: laws were such that there were doctors who knew there
Speaker 3: was a problem but weren't able to actually do anything
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
Speaker 3: You'd like to think it wouldn't happen here because if
Speaker 3: any doctor had concerns and they have to report it,
Speaker 3: and likewise we would of our colleague if we thought
Speaker 3: something's not right with them, then we would certainly take
Speaker 3: steps to make sure that they got help and weren't
Speaker 3: allowed back in the aeroplane until everything was sorted with them.
Speaker 1: Anything else there, Bob, No, that was.
Speaker 17: To answer my question. So what's to stop another lunatic
Speaker 17: outside in the cabin getting the.
Speaker 3: X Yeah, well, we don't have them outside inne.
Speaker 17: No, but the captain was using one in this term.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's right. Well, they obviously stored it out in
Speaker 3: the cabin. We don't, but he knew where it was, yes,
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, we have to know where everything is
Speaker 3: on the airplane, even in the cabin. So yeah, he
Speaker 3: was trying his best to get back in but sadly
Speaker 3: didn't didn't help.
Speaker 17: Well, I finally found out I saw that well, but yes,
Speaker 17: it really did.
Speaker 3: Happen, that's my understanding of it.
Speaker 17: Yes, me the frustrated that poor captain would have.
Speaker 3: Been terrifying knowing that, ye, knowing that you can't do anything.
Speaker 3: There's if there's an air crash investigations episode where something
Speaker 3: similar happened in Mozambique, in fact in Africa, where the
Speaker 3: first officer decided after the captain had left the flight
Speaker 3: deck to do something and it also ended the same way.
Speaker 3: But as I say, we're much more vigilant here, and
Speaker 3: the authorities have more power and that they are required
Speaker 3: to disclose if they feel that someone's potentially got some issues.
Speaker 1: How often, if you don't mind me asking, how often
Speaker 1: do you have some sort of medical medical?
Speaker 3: And now for normal for generally for private pilots, it's
Speaker 3: every two years. Once you get your commercial license and everything,
Speaker 3: it's every year, and then once you hit sixty five,
Speaker 3: then you've got to do it every six months. Yep,
Speaker 3: So I have a medical every six months.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, cool, sixty five I didn't realize you were
Speaker 1: that on. You look younger than me. That's very kind
Speaker 1: of you to say, signing Leanne is in Migna, Anne, Si,
Speaker 1: Na and Joe Haileen.
Speaker 18: I'm not sure if I don't remember I asked you
Speaker 18: about my little friends that and you said to get
Speaker 18: to do an emergency. Yes, right away, Yes, she had
Speaker 18: some sort of link answer lymphoma.
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 18: Yeah, she wasn't a well kitten and she just got
Speaker 18: work got worth anyway. That's one thing I wasn't sure
Speaker 18: if I mentioned that.
Speaker 3: She's no you didn't, we not the follow up, but yeah,
Speaker 3: And that's sometimes how it happens that that often they
Speaker 3: they they're fine, and they're okay for quite some time,
Speaker 3: and then appear to go downhill very quickly, and then
Speaker 3: when you have a look at them and you go,
Speaker 3: hang on, well, this has been building up for some time.
Speaker 3: Animals have a big advantage over us, And as soon
Speaker 3: as we're feeling a little bit odd or we notice
Speaker 3: something a little lump or whatever, then we should get
Speaker 3: ourselves off to the doctor, whereas animals don't. As long
Speaker 3: as they're feeling okay, they just keep going and there
Speaker 3: can be all sorts of things brewing inside them that
Speaker 3: just keep going until it reaches a point where it
Speaker 3: does cause them some problems, and then they'll, yeah, they'll
Speaker 3: go downhill. Appears to be very quickly.
Speaker 18: Also, if I may ask Nathan, I've got a fifteen
Speaker 18: year old cat in one area, two seven year old
Speaker 18: cats in another area, and and I've got a one
Speaker 18: year old in another area. How the hell do I
Speaker 18: integrate them?
Speaker 3: Well, it depends on the individuals. There are some that
Speaker 3: will tolerate each other. There are some that will become buddies,
Speaker 3: and there are some that just they will not. Cats
Speaker 3: are very territorial, and their territory is not one area
Speaker 3: they've discovered. They've had people that have spent time watching
Speaker 3: where cats go and what they do, and they'll have
Speaker 3: a bit of territory here, and a bit of territory here,
Speaker 3: and a bit of territory there. Where you run into
Speaker 3: problems is when they're going from one bit of territory
Speaker 3: to the other because they're going through someone else's territory
Speaker 3: and so that can cause a bit of a problem.
Speaker 3: And that's where you get a lot of these fights.
Speaker 3: When you know when you're getting the cats crossing over.
Speaker 3: So look, it's worth just trying to see if they'll
Speaker 3: cope with each other. And most of them will just
Speaker 3: sort of keep away from each other initially, but if
Speaker 3: you see that they're getting aggressive, then you're just going
Speaker 3: to have to keep them apart. You can try if
Speaker 3: they're indoors a product that I mentioned from time to
Speaker 3: time called feely Way, and it's a plugin thing that
Speaker 3: you put in the wall like one of those air
Speaker 3: freshness and it puts out a pheromone, so a feel
Speaker 3: good hormone that doesn't do anything for us or any
Speaker 3: other species. It's specific for cats. There is a dog
Speaker 3: version of it as well, but if you try that,
Speaker 3: that can help just to calm them down a little.
Speaker 3: And you can pick that up from a pet shop.
Speaker 3: And there's something else you can get from a pet
Speaker 3: shop that it is a milk protein and it will
Speaker 3: just help you put it on the food. You don't
Speaker 3: use the cat dose, who use the big dog dose.
Speaker 3: And because it's just a milk protein, it's not like
Speaker 3: a drug that has to have a particular dose, and
Speaker 3: that can help to take the edge off them as
Speaker 3: well if you do that for a while before you
Speaker 3: try and introduce them. That may help just to put
Speaker 3: them in a better frame of mind and they won't
Speaker 3: get too wound up about sharing territory or finding their
Speaker 3: own territory.
Speaker 1: Or get them all stoned.
Speaker 3: Well, there's that. Put them in the room after you've
Speaker 3: smoked a couple of joints or something, Leanne, then you know,
Speaker 3: hopefully those and they'll mellow out, although they will be hungry,
Speaker 3: so you do need to give some plenty of food.
Speaker 1: I'm joking, yes, of course, just just to clarify that, yes,
Speaker 1: does that work for you.
Speaker 19: Leanne.
Speaker 3: Sil Kan, Yeah, that's the that's the protein and it
Speaker 3: comes in a capsule. You don't give them the capsule.
Speaker 3: You just open the capsule and then tip it onto
Speaker 3: their food z y l K E n E and
Speaker 3: you use the big dog does and they quite like it.
Speaker 3: So you can just tip it on some wet food
Speaker 3: because it's a powder and no good on dry food.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and it will just help to just take
Speaker 3: the edge off them. So if you do that for
Speaker 3: a little while, a few weeks before you decide you're
Speaker 3: going to try and introduce them, it might just help
Speaker 3: a little bit as well. And the feely way, So
Speaker 3: there are things you don't need or for which you
Speaker 3: don't need a prescription, so you can you can pick
Speaker 3: those up and see if they're.
Speaker 8: Going to help it all mainly my female yep.
Speaker 3: And give it to all of them. And then that
Speaker 3: way you don't just give it to the one that
Speaker 3: is apparently the bully, because sometimes the bully is only
Speaker 3: defending itself and the other one it's provoking them so
Speaker 3: when you're not looking correct and it's just sometimes the
Speaker 3: body language. So although they're not overtly aggressive, they can
Speaker 3: be very threatening and it's the one that's reacting that
Speaker 3: you think is the one that's the troublemaker, but it's
Speaker 3: just trying to defend itself. So give it to all
Speaker 3: of them. Try it for a few weeks and then
Speaker 3: just see how you go introducing them for short periods.
Speaker 3: Start just before they're due to be fed, and then
Speaker 3: that way you can then put the food back in
Speaker 3: their areas and so they can just have limited exposure
Speaker 3: to each other and see if that helps.
Speaker 1: Excellent, See how you go leand report back in a weeks.
Speaker 1: Would be interesting to hear how it goes. Yes, it's
Speaker 1: twenty six to two. That's if you're in Victoria if
Speaker 1: you're in Western Australia twenty six to midnight, and if
Speaker 1: you're in South Australia it's four after one. More with
Speaker 1: Nathan cost in a sec We were talking about trivia
Speaker 1: earlier from Doctor John One reason we like trivia. Each
Speaker 1: time you successfully answer a trivia question, your brain gives
Speaker 1: you a small dopamine boost, creating a sense of accomplishment
Speaker 1: and reinforcing your desire to play again. The dopamine reward
Speaker 1: not only makes trivia fun, but also strengthens your ability
Speaker 1: to recall facts more easily in the future.
Speaker 3: Which makes perfect sense. And that's why people get addicted
Speaker 3: to various things, because you just get a little boost
Speaker 3: of pleasure with that and say you continue or you
Speaker 3: want to continue that behavior.
Speaker 1: Yes, so that's why I remember a lot of interesting facts.
Speaker 1: But I forget to buy toothpaste when I'm at.
Speaker 3: The shops, absolutely because that doesn't trigger any sort of
Speaker 3: enjoyable emotion.
Speaker 1: Toothpaste doesn't make me happy at all. Maggie's in Adelaide.
Speaker 20: Hi, Maggie, ah, Hi, yeah, Hi there, Simon and Nathan.
Speaker 8: Hello Meggie, Yeah, yeah, Now may.
Speaker 20: I digress somewhat? I don't know which way to go?
Speaker 20: The one club a slasher, the Chase or my children
Speaker 20: And they're different, three children, dark haired, blue eyes, brown
Speaker 20: eyes and all that. So which one shall I start with?
Speaker 3: Well, let's start with the one percent club slash the Chase.
Speaker 3: I do like the Chase, I have to say this,
Speaker 3: the English version as well as the Australian version.
Speaker 20: Yes, no, okay, yeah, yeah, I do like the chase,
Speaker 20: but in that case I prefer the Australian version.
Speaker 3: Yes, with Larry Ender, Yeah.
Speaker 20: Yeah, but I think it's a little bit too slow sometimes.
Speaker 3: Well that's why they're using it up with that wheel
Speaker 3: that they have that boosts the money and that type
Speaker 3: of thing, because I think they're copying a lot of
Speaker 3: pressure from the on Channel nine at the same time
Speaker 3: with todd Woodbridge tipping point and that's a bit more,
Speaker 3: a bit more razmetas so I think they're trying to
Speaker 3: juge up the chase just a little bit as well.
Speaker 20: Oh I haven't watched the the that that one, but
Speaker 20: I've heard of this. Yeah, but I prefer the Australian
Speaker 20: version of the Chase.
Speaker 3: Andrew O'Keefe or Larry Ender.
Speaker 20: Larry and I look, Keith was a flamboyant, and I
Speaker 20: quite liked him despite whatever was you know.
Speaker 1: Yafore, his television persona and performance was exceptional good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with.
Speaker 3: That, very talented person and the lawyer by training and
Speaker 3: a singer as well, and nephew of course of the
Speaker 3: late Johnny o'key.
Speaker 1: Yes, just some character flaws, ye.
Speaker 20: So Also having said that, I quite like the one
Speaker 20: said club. It's abstraight thinking, you know, that type of thing,
Speaker 20: and so perhaps the UK version it really doesn't matter
Speaker 20: because whatever the questions are, it's not related to that
Speaker 20: of the UK or.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because sometimes with the quiz shows they ask
Speaker 3: very specific sort of English questions or American questions or whatever.
Speaker 3: So but as you say, with the one Percent Club,
Speaker 3: they just it's general brains, brain teasers and puzzles. I
Speaker 3: sometimes find it annoying because you look at it and
Speaker 3: you look at it, and you look at it, I
Speaker 3: haven't got a clue. And then when they tell you
Speaker 3: the answer and explain why you think that is so
Speaker 3: bloom and obvious, why did I not see it?
Speaker 1: So I'm pretty good at those.
Speaker 3: Pictorial and spacious spatial but.
Speaker 1: I cannot, for the life of me do a cryptic crossword.
Speaker 3: Yes, different skills the Sorry, Maggie, I love them. Cryptic crosswords, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I can't do them either. I think once you've done
Speaker 3: a number of them, you kind of get the patterns
Speaker 3: and you get the way that they ask the questions.
Speaker 3: But I'm like you, Simon, I just you know, some
Speaker 3: of them have the normal clues and the cryptic clues,
Speaker 3: and then when you do the normal one and then
Speaker 3: you look at the cryptic one, you go, Okay, I
Speaker 3: see how they got that. But I couldn't think to
Speaker 3: sort that out. But I guess you get used to it,
Speaker 3: and you get to learn the way that they ask
Speaker 3: these things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now, Maggie, we've got to move on. But what
Speaker 1: did you want to say about your kids and genetics?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 20: Okay, going onto that, Yeah, of course.
Speaker 18: Yeah.
Speaker 20: Mother of three children, same baba. The oldest was brown hair,
Speaker 20: brown eyes, second blonde hair, blue eyes, and the third
Speaker 20: well then blonde hair, sort of brownness, shy you go
Speaker 20: one with a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Are you sure you're the mother?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 20: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: That's what It's funny you say that, Simon, because when
Speaker 3: my son was born, he was an absolute dead spinning
Speaker 3: image of me. Yes, and he had I was blonde
Speaker 3: as a child and blue eyes, and my ex very
Speaker 3: dark olive skin, very dark hair and brown eyes. And
Speaker 3: then when Philip was born, they said, well, I'm sure
Speaker 3: I'm the father, but I can't be sure that Max
Speaker 3: is the mother.
Speaker 1: Yes, which people? It takes that moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I go, hang on, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: I got that joke. I always say everything I've learned
Speaker 1: I got from comedy Robin Williams when his wife was
Speaker 1: pregnant with it their first child. As part of his
Speaker 1: stand up routine, He's up there on stage doing all
Speaker 1: this stuff and then he says I'm about to become
Speaker 1: a father, and there's a big round of applause, and
Speaker 1: he says, I don't know who the mother is. Very
Speaker 1: funny line. It is, thank you, Maggie. Norma's in w A.
Speaker 3: Hello Norma, good morning him. Good. How's the evening in
Speaker 3: w A?
Speaker 19: Very pleasant? I don't think this much, Rye, but we
Speaker 19: have a nice day today.
Speaker 3: Lovely, very strange weather we're having, isn't it around the place?
Speaker 19: Very odd? Simon. I was in the hospitality yesterday talking
Speaker 19: to a dear Christian friend of mine. Now I asked
Speaker 19: her yesture just about her faith. I said to her,
Speaker 19: if Jesus defeated Satan at Calvary, why did he leave
Speaker 19: him on earth for us to contend with the answer
Speaker 19: really surprised me. Without Satan, the Bible loses all its power,
Speaker 19: fear and purpose.
Speaker 3: That's it. Well, you've got to have a bad guy,
Speaker 3: don't you, and a protagonist in movies and things. Otherwise
Speaker 3: it or gets a bit boring.
Speaker 19: Absolutely, absolutely balance.
Speaker 1: You've got yeah, to have good, you've got to have evil.
Speaker 3: Otherwise there's no counterbalance good.
Speaker 1: If we never knew what sadness was, we wouldn't know
Speaker 1: what it's like to be happy.
Speaker 19: That's right, that's correct, that's correct.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 19: Now, as far as the genie go, I have three children.
Speaker 19: They I've got one olive skin, brown hair, one freckly skinned,
Speaker 19: ginger hair, one Doug frickly skinned, all the same father.
Speaker 19: Unbelievable is that variation right throughout my family?
Speaker 3: Yes? Do people ask questions of you?
Speaker 19: Well, it's a funny thing. No, no one's ever no
Speaker 19: one's ever questioned. But the girls were doing their family
Speaker 19: trees and they got there, what do you call it
Speaker 19: when you get your.
Speaker 3: Blood tested DNA tested?
Speaker 19: Yeah, And they said to me, there moment shows that
Speaker 19: were even related to dead's sister.
Speaker 3: That's handy, good to know, will, But no.
Speaker 19: I'd never had any doubts or questions, so I'd never
Speaker 19: questioned it when they came up with.
Speaker 3: Yes, although you've got to be careful about those DNA
Speaker 3: tests because a friend of mine who was blonde hair,
Speaker 3: blue eyes, wanted to see if there was any sort
Speaker 3: of Scandinavian blood in the family and did the DNA
Speaker 3: test and found out that preps dad wasn't.
Speaker 1: So yeah, really it is better to know, though, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, because it gives you a chance
Speaker 1: to find out who you're yes, your blood relatives.
Speaker 3: Yes, and well they're talking about that also, if you've
Speaker 3: got any genetic conditions that run through the family, then
Speaker 3: at least to be able to identify those and then
Speaker 3: make some decisions if you're going to have kids, that
Speaker 3: type of thing. But yeah, it certainly was through a
Speaker 3: spanner in the works when all of that came out.
Speaker 3: But anyway, well.
Speaker 1: I did a DNA test, and a cousin of mine
Speaker 1: who also has the same we have our accounts with
Speaker 1: my heritage. Yes, he also did his DNA and we
Speaker 1: came up as cousins. So that's andy good. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: reinforced to know that. Yes, it's just a peace of mind. Yes,
Speaker 1: thank you, dormt. We must break. We'll get to more
Speaker 1: calls off this and it. You'll be up next. And
Speaker 1: Annett has called from long Weary.
Speaker 6: Hi earn it hid hellah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, good, thank you.
Speaker 3: Hello Aett long Worri is a lovely part of the world.
Speaker 7: Oh, I've got a golden triever.
Speaker 11: Yes, maybe fifteen months old. Right, he's killing me?
Speaker 3: He what sorry, he's killing me.
Speaker 18: He's chewed my out door.
Speaker 3: So he's chewing he's chewing things, is he?
Speaker 19: Oh?
Speaker 20: Yeah, I want some.
Speaker 3: Okay me?
Speaker 16: Yeah?
Speaker 3: If look, you need to give him some sort of diversion.
Speaker 3: So has he got lots of toys and things that
Speaker 3: he is allowed to chew a lot of.
Speaker 13: Toys, But unfortunately I'm a single month Yeah, I worked
Speaker 13: twenty four to.
Speaker 20: Seven, so I've kn'd even taking walking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's probably part of it, because he's getting
Speaker 3: bored and he's starting just to develop an antisocial behavior.
Speaker 3: If you like one of the things that you can
Speaker 3: get and they're not terribly expensive, a food releasing toy,
Speaker 3: different brands, as a brand called Kong that's probably the
Speaker 3: best known of them, and your stuff them full of food.
Speaker 3: There are ones that you can put in dry food
Speaker 3: or wet food, but peanut butter or liverwurst or paate
Speaker 3: or that type of thing, or there's ones that you
Speaker 3: can put in dry food and as it rolls around,
Speaker 3: it slowly releases the dry food, and that can help
Speaker 3: to keep him occupied for a while. Now, obviously, if
Speaker 3: you're giving him that food, reduce his normal meal by
Speaker 3: that amount. Otherwise he's going to be putting on weight
Speaker 3: because he's giving him the extra food. But it might
Speaker 3: be that you need to do something like that to
Speaker 3: help distract him, because they can take some hours for
Speaker 3: the food to be dispensed, and maybe that's just going
Speaker 3: to keep him away from chomping on things that he
Speaker 3: doesn't chomp. The other thing that you might be able
Speaker 3: to do if you've got a neighbor or a friend
Speaker 3: that's happy or able to take him out walking and
Speaker 3: giving him some stimulation, because otherwise, if he's just sort
Speaker 3: of sitting at home by himself and getting bored, then
Speaker 3: that's how he's picked up this kind of behavior. So
Speaker 3: getting a dog walker or a friend or a relative
Speaker 3: or a neighbor who would be happy to take him
Speaker 3: for walks might help as well. Just to keep him occupied.
Speaker 3: I think that's what you need to do, is to
Speaker 3: displace his behavior and keep him occupied and busy, and
Speaker 3: then hopefully he won't be doing all the.
Speaker 10: Chewing, Nathan, he's not on his own.
Speaker 7: He's got a partner.
Speaker 3: Yes, even then, you know, it's just he probably wants
Speaker 3: your company. But yeah, try try the food releasing toys
Speaker 3: and see if that helps you at all. If not,
Speaker 3: you might need to find a dog trainer or a
Speaker 3: dog behavior somewhere in your area there and have a
Speaker 3: chat with them and see if they've got some other strategies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you said that money's a bit tight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe just googling. Yeah, absolutely a bit for training. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of training things out there. Just be
Speaker 1: a little bit wary.
Speaker 3: Some people have got some pretty unusual ideas about dog training.
Speaker 3: But yeah, have a look on Google and see. But
Speaker 3: I think, you know, because they're so food driven, and
Speaker 3: particularly golden retrievers, then just giving him something to keep
Speaker 3: him occupied might be it. And it might be that
Speaker 3: his partner is you know, not providing him the stimulation
Speaker 3: that he would otherwise need.
Speaker 1: Good on your net. Good luck with that. Let's know
Speaker 1: in coming weeks how it goes. If you can help
Speaker 1: settle him down there. Yes, another break, we'll be back
Speaker 1: to wrap it up before news. Nathan Cosh is here
Speaker 1: for only another three minutes before he rides off or
Speaker 1: flies off into the sunmit.
Speaker 3: So I get on my broom and head off, so
Speaker 3: we've got.
Speaker 1: Time to squeeze one more calling Simon's in Colac Hi, Simon,
Speaker 1: good Simon.
Speaker 7: Yeah, my mom had a little cane can terror and
Speaker 7: share a little sunnys a fox and cocky cross can terror.
Speaker 7: He lives. He lives for not doing news in ten months.
Speaker 3: That's a great innings.
Speaker 7: And I am the curly head retriever. Yes, and it's
Speaker 7: and when I was living back and this quake the
Speaker 7: new me. My dog got let off the chain. And
Speaker 7: when I went on the road, Uh see buggies leading
Speaker 7: spreet places. And there's a bit nothing but about muscle
Speaker 7: cleaned down for me.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, yeah, my friend Mike is Yeah, anyway I
Speaker 3: would have yes, so you still see Mike.
Speaker 7: No, I must off the way in now.
Speaker 3: Okay, one of my one of my dear old UNI
Speaker 3: friends whose father, it turns out, who I knew I
Speaker 3: didn't know at the time though, was actually a New
Speaker 3: Zealand World War II fighter race. Well really, the course,
Speaker 3: there's some things and I knew, well, it's her name
Speaker 3: of Rhodes, first name of Howard, so of course he
Speaker 3: was known to all and sundry as Dusty Dusty Roads.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, for all the years that I had no idea.
Speaker 3: Mike only told me later some of his exploits and
Speaker 3: I thought, wow, if only i'd known when he was around.
Speaker 3: Just it's amazing to hear some of the stories of
Speaker 3: these people, not glorifying anything, but just some of the
Speaker 3: stuff that they had to do. And they were, you know,
Speaker 3: sort of eighteen year old kids thrown into the war
Speaker 3: and just terrible. But anyway, he was a real character,
Speaker 3: that's for sure.
Speaker 1: News is coming up a bit very quickly, Bud Tingwell, Yes, actor,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, my night we're interviewing and
Speaker 1: he's talking about his time during the war flying planes. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's right, amazing stories. Nathan Coosh, thank you once again
Speaker 1: for Pets and jets.
Speaker 3: My pleasure loved to see assignment.
Speaker 1: You'll be back to do it all again next week
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