WEBVTT - Weekends with Luke Grant - Saturday 31 May

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa across Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Weekends with Luke Grant.

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<v Speaker 3>But you gotta keep your head up then you can

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<v Speaker 3>let your hand up. You gotta keep your head up

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<v Speaker 3>then you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can let your hand up.

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<v Speaker 4>I know it's hard, No, it's hard to remember sometimes, but.

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<v Speaker 5>You gotta keep your head.

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<v Speaker 4>Up then you can let your head downy.

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning, Welcome to Weekends with Luke Grant. Great to

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<v Speaker 3>be with you on two g BE in Sydney, four

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<v Speaker 3>BC in Brisbane and listeners on the app joining us

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<v Speaker 3>all around Australia. May thirty first, today, Saturday morning, the

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<v Speaker 3>final day of autumn, and it happens to be World

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<v Speaker 3>No Tobacco Day today. I noted the New South Wales

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<v Speaker 3>Health Minister Ryan Parker suggesting that the number of people

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<v Speaker 3>in New South Wales who smoke cigarettes has fallen to

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<v Speaker 3>a it's lowest level on record. This is according to

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<v Speaker 3>data published by New South Wales Health. They say around

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<v Speaker 3>eleven percent of adults smoke daily or occasionally, a decline

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<v Speaker 3>from fourteen percent back in twenty fifteen. Is annual lived experience.

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<v Speaker 3>When you look around, you're seeing lets people. Whatever you do,

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<v Speaker 3>don't smoke. What do they call them bangers, lungbusters, darts.

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<v Speaker 3>Not trying to ematicize the concept of smoking. Whatever you do,

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<v Speaker 3>don't smoke, but down to eleven percent. Data from the

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<v Speaker 3>Cancer Institute of New South Wales release today shows people

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<v Speaker 3>in the status seeking support to quit smoking and vaping

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<v Speaker 3>more than twenty seven thousand calls supported by a counseling

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<v Speaker 3>service quitline in the past year. While smoking rates of decline,

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<v Speaker 3>rates of vaping remain high, with people sixteen to twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four years having the highest rate of vaping of any

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<v Speaker 3>age group, about twenty percent. And although there was a

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<v Speaker 3>rapid inn increase in rates amongst this group from twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 3>vaping rates have now started to stabilize. I say no

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<v Speaker 3>figures from Queensland this morning, and of course a big

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<v Speaker 3>issue was a black market tobacco which they tell me

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<v Speaker 3>if you buy them as a court of the price

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<v Speaker 3>of the legal product, it must be costing the government

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<v Speaker 3>billions in revenue. We've touched on this story before. I

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<v Speaker 3>say again, whatever you do is the late yul Brenner

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<v Speaker 3>once famously said, don't smoke. Weather today in Sydney mostly

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<v Speaker 3>sunny day, little bit cloudy. As we look out the

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<v Speaker 3>window here slight chance of a shower. Be careful on

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<v Speaker 3>the coast. Surf conditions may be more powerful than they

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<v Speaker 3>appear and are expected to be hazardous for coastal activities

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<v Speaker 3>such as rock fishing and swimming in the city twenty

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<v Speaker 3>at Penrith twenty one nineteen at Paramatter Bond died along

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<v Speaker 3>the coast twenty tomorrow. Mostly sunny in Sydney in twenty

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<v Speaker 3>In Brisbane today a cloudy one with a very high

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<v Speaker 3>channel and some showers becoming less likely late this afternoon

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<v Speaker 3>and tonight. Those light winds be coming southeasterly in the

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<v Speaker 3>middle of the day in Brisbane twenty one, the Airport

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<v Speaker 3>twenty one, Ipswich twenty one, Sunny Coast twenty one and

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<v Speaker 3>the Gold Coast twenty two tomorrow for Brisbane, another word day,

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<v Speaker 3>they say, in a top of twenty three degrees, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>get to James Willis from the Daily Telegraph, the News

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<v Speaker 3>Court Papers in a moment, and then Charles psychologist clear

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<v Speaker 3>Row a couple of I'll tell you what wherever you

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<v Speaker 3>look today there are great stories. So I don't like

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<v Speaker 3>to talk things up here too much, but boy, there's

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<v Speaker 3>some stuff to tell you about this morning. Let me

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<v Speaker 3>start with this and as I say in the classics,

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<v Speaker 3>you be the judge. This is out of the Courier

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<v Speaker 3>Mail today they report that a heavily intoxicated driver who

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<v Speaker 3>sped through a red light at a busy Brisbane intersection,

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<v Speaker 3>leaving a local politician with a traumatic brain injury, will

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<v Speaker 3>serve no time no time in custody. They report the

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<v Speaker 3>former Greens NP Amy McMahon was left comatose with serious injuries,

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<v Speaker 3>including blood clots to her brain and a carotid artery dissection,

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<v Speaker 3>after the horror crash in February twenty twenty four. Despite

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<v Speaker 3>her injuries, doctor McMahon made a generous plea through her

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<v Speaker 3>victim impact statement at the driver's responsibles sentence on Friday

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<v Speaker 3>yesterday not to send them to jail now, The CORPUS

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<v Speaker 3>told Ronie Page Lowry, a twenty seven year old of Maruka,

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<v Speaker 3>had run a red light at the intersection of Main

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<v Speaker 3>Street in Bains Road to Kangaroo Point around six point

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<v Speaker 3>thirty pm while over three times the legal alcohol limit.

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<v Speaker 3>Three times. She'd been driving her mother's uninsured he yund

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<v Speaker 3>Ay I thirty southbound on Main Street more than twenty

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<v Speaker 3>k's over the sixty k limit when she struck doctor

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<v Speaker 3>McMahon's Toyota Prius. The Crown Prosecutor Luke Smoothie told the

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<v Speaker 3>court Lowry had accelerated the speeds of up to ninety

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<v Speaker 3>k's and the seconds prior to the collision, she struck

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<v Speaker 3>the car of doctor McMahon, who had been working in

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<v Speaker 3>a role as an MP that night, at speed of

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<v Speaker 3>eighty three k's an how they say, and CCTV captured

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<v Speaker 3>doctor McMahon's Prius spin one hundred and eighty degrees from

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<v Speaker 3>the impact of the collision, with extensive damage immediately visible

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<v Speaker 3>to both cars. Now Lowry was found to have a

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<v Speaker 3>blood alcohol content of zero point one to eighty six.

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<v Speaker 3>Doctor McMahon was hospitalized for two and a half weeks

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<v Speaker 3>and was in a brain injury rehabilitation unit for half

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<v Speaker 3>that time. The court heard she suffered post traumatic amnesia

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<v Speaker 3>and was unable to form memories for a week. Smoothie said,

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<v Speaker 3>without hospitalization, doctor McMahon would have been at quite serious

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<v Speaker 3>risk of neurological deterioration and that would have led to

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<v Speaker 3>her death unquote. Now the woman pleaded guilty in April

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<v Speaker 3>to dangerous operation of a vehicle causing grievous bodily harm

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<v Speaker 3>while adversely affected, and was sentenced yesterday to three years

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<v Speaker 3>jail with immediate parole. Immediate parole. Doctor McMahon did not

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<v Speaker 3>attend the sentence in person, but the judge, David Kent,

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<v Speaker 3>noted the rare compassion she'd shown in her statement, saying,

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<v Speaker 3>very generously, it says towards the start that in some

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<v Speaker 3>ways it has enriched her life. Justice for her is

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<v Speaker 3>Missus Lowry's genuine rehabilitation. If there is support, you need

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure you never ever for the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>your life do something like this again. And you need support,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm willing to help, very generous. Despite doctor McMahon's request,

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<v Speaker 3>mister Smoothie said Lowry should serve up to six months

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<v Speaker 3>in actual custody, considerating considering rather the devastating consequence of

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<v Speaker 3>her actions. At the defense, barrister Jack Kennedy, instructed by

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<v Speaker 3>Bevin Lawyers, said his client stopped driving by choice after

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<v Speaker 3>the crash and had struggled with feelings of remorse and shame.

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<v Speaker 3>He tended a letter of apology that Larry had written

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<v Speaker 3>in response to the victim impact statement. Kennedy said Larry

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<v Speaker 3>had relapsed into alcohol dependency and depression following an unexpected

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<v Speaker 3>death in her family five months prior to the collision.

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<v Speaker 3>He said she wasn't drinking for the thrill of it

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<v Speaker 3>or the excitement, but had been attempting to ease her anxiety.

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<v Speaker 3>He submitted that Lowry's ADHD diagnosis, in combination with the alcohol,

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<v Speaker 3>had also impacted her ability to rationalize. The court heard

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<v Speaker 3>Larry had no criminal or traffic history in Queensland, but

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<v Speaker 3>had been convicted in New South Wales at the age

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<v Speaker 3>of nineteen of driving while suspended and over middle alcohol limit.

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<v Speaker 3>As I said, you be the judge. Judge can't acknowledge

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<v Speaker 3>Larry had a difficult upbringing, said she'd give significant He

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<v Speaker 3>would give significant weight to the victim's views, but he

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<v Speaker 3>said he needed to balance a serious competing factors, including

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<v Speaker 3>the severity of the offending, to determine an appropriate sentence.

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<v Speaker 3>He ultimately sentenced Larry to three years jail with immediate parole.

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<v Speaker 3>Larry's li likesnse automatically disqualified for one year. Now. Victim's

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<v Speaker 3>statements are a must and it's a delicate consideration, but

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<v Speaker 3>aren't their community expectations. I'm not sure they're met here.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not suggesting here to lock the door and toss

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<v Speaker 3>the keys away, not at all. But consequences for actions

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<v Speaker 3>need to inform the next person, next person, rather that

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<v Speaker 3>society expects them to, even in tough times, respect your

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<v Speaker 3>fellow Australian's right to exist safely. I understand about compassion,

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<v Speaker 3>I do, But seriously, in relation to the community expectations,

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if in your mind, again, you better judge

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<v Speaker 3>this meets appropriate penalty. I'm not sure. The Sydney Harbor

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<v Speaker 3>Bridge tolls on the way up, and Chrisman said he's

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<v Speaker 3>going to build buses in Australia, Well apparently they're rolling

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<v Speaker 3>off a ship from China. You got to laugh, don't you.

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<v Speaker 3>How long does it take a politician to lie? Doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>appear to take all that long. I'll get into the

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<v Speaker 3>meat of this story in a minute, but seriously, if

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<v Speaker 3>you want to see a politician lying, let them say

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<v Speaker 3>something and just wait two hundred and seventy five dollars anyone.

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<v Speaker 7>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>The Men's government is finally cracking down to protect customers

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<v Speaker 3>from the sale of dodgy heat pumps. These are hot

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<v Speaker 3>water systems. I've got one of these at home in

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<v Speaker 3>the house I bought, so it's not something we went

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<v Speaker 3>out to buy. And now knowing about this, I'm kind

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<v Speaker 3>of going, hello, this is great work in the Telegraph

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<v Speaker 3>by James Willis, the beating hard form of beating heart

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<v Speaker 3>of TWOGB. They're launching a compliance splits the government to

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<v Speaker 3>stop the cowboys who run a muck on the government

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<v Speaker 3>subsidized heating scheme. In fact, some are calling this pink

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<v Speaker 3>bats two point zero. Who do you reckon? The government

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<v Speaker 3>says is the architect of this initiative former New South

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<v Speaker 3>Wales Energy Minister Matt kean Elbow's climate zar. As I say,

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<v Speaker 3>the man with the story is James Willis of the

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<v Speaker 3>Daily Telegraph, who joins me on the line. James, good morning,

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<v Speaker 3>my friend. I hope you're well. You've been following this

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<v Speaker 3>story and it's been bizarre to hear you or to

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<v Speaker 3>read you writing about water on powerpoints and the like.

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<v Speaker 3>Just how dangerous is all this stuff?

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<v Speaker 8>Happy Saturday, Luke, and look good morning to you and

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<v Speaker 8>your listeners. Look, this is an issue that two weeks

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<v Speaker 8>ago I knew absolutely nothing about, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 8>pretty clear that, just like you said, most people know

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<v Speaker 8>nothing about hot water systems. They only think about them

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<v Speaker 8>the moment they turn their taps on one day and

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<v Speaker 8>the water doesn't heat up, and they decided to call

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<v Speaker 8>a plumber. But what happened was there was a federal

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<v Speaker 8>scheme that's been running for a long time, and then

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<v Speaker 8>the state government under Matt Kean in early twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 8>decided to add two further incentives, which basically allowed these

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<v Speaker 8>hot water systems that generally retail between one thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 8>and five thousand dollars to be so lucrative that all

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<v Speaker 8>of these cowboys came into the market and knocked on

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<v Speaker 8>people's doors, called people, ran letterbox drops all over social media,

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<v Speaker 8>and said we can give you a hot water system

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<v Speaker 8>for free. If you're a business or if you're in

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<v Speaker 8>a household. There's a payment of just thirty three dollars.

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<v Speaker 8>So all of a sudden, people said, hey, do you

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<v Speaker 8>want a free hot water system? Of course, Hey, guess

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<v Speaker 8>what we can give you two. Well, the reason they

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<v Speaker 8>were giving so many away was because the incentives were.

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<v Speaker 6>So lucrative that they were.

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<v Speaker 8>Importing these products from overseas cheap goods, largely from China

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<v Speaker 8>and it created this feeding frenzy where we had behavior

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<v Speaker 8>that was very similar to the pink Bats saga in

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<v Speaker 8>the Kevin Rudd government, where there was dodgy systems, unqualified workers.

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<v Speaker 8>And now the Men's government is finally conceding that we've

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<v Speaker 8>had one hundred and twenty thousand of these systems installed

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<v Speaker 8>in New South Wales, four hundred thousand across Australia and

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<v Speaker 8>most of them are not up to standards, not working

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<v Speaker 8>and in some cases potentially dangerous.

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<v Speaker 3>So the Building Commission's already conducted some order to design

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<v Speaker 3>understand it. What did that uncover?

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<v Speaker 8>Mate, Well, there's been a two audits at the Building

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<v Speaker 8>Commission that we know about. The first one the compliance

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<v Speaker 8>levels were just nine percent in properties and also in

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<v Speaker 8>the businesses that they looked at. The second order it

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<v Speaker 8>was just thirty seven percent. They've now agreed to look

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<v Speaker 8>at this further and do a compliance blitz and Mate

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<v Speaker 8>and look at some properties that they believe are going

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<v Speaker 8>to be a problem. So there's going to be a

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<v Speaker 8>lot more wider looks at this. The Plumbers Association, the

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<v Speaker 8>Master Plumbers have done their own checks.

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<v Speaker 9>They found an.

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<v Speaker 8>Average of four non tradesmen like installations at everything, and

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<v Speaker 8>the Building Commission is very concerned in particular about and

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<v Speaker 8>this is technical, but it's a lack of an RCD,

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<v Speaker 8>which is basically the socket that keeps someone safe from electrocution.

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<v Speaker 8>So but these have been installed everywhere by people that

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<v Speaker 8>weren't up to the job, a lot of them. You

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<v Speaker 8>had to have three different trades that did not exist.

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<v Speaker 8>But the problem is this is a gold medal example

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<v Speaker 8>Luke of where net zero is just this thought bubble

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<v Speaker 8>without guardrails in place. We all want to give people

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<v Speaker 8>a heat pump, and the heat pumps are in theory

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<v Speaker 8>and energy saving appliance instead of an electrical hot water

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<v Speaker 8>system or a gas hot water system. But it was

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<v Speaker 8>brought in by Matt Kean without requiring people to show

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<v Speaker 8>their license details if they were a plumber, without backing

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<v Speaker 8>some of the verified and good quality hot water systems,

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<v Speaker 8>and without requiring them to have a minimum energy performance standard.

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<v Speaker 8>So I mean, it's been an absolute disaster and now

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<v Speaker 8>the Men's government is trying to clean it up. But

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<v Speaker 8>there's a lot more work to do in this space

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<v Speaker 8>because people don't know they got this free system and

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<v Speaker 8>all of a sudden a year later or two years

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<v Speaker 8>later it's not working and they go to call the

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<v Speaker 8>person that actually installed it. That company doesn't exist anymore.

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<v Speaker 8>In some cases they're saying we're not liable and you know,

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<v Speaker 8>you can't get that free hot water system, and a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of people replace, you know, systems that were working

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<v Speaker 8>fine and just said yeah, look we'll take the free one,

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<v Speaker 8>only to realize that they're being done and so they've

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<v Speaker 8>decided to bend door knocking so you can't get the

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<v Speaker 8>knock on the door anymore. And from someone saying here's

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<v Speaker 8>the free system, they'll also bring in a five year warranty,

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<v Speaker 8>which is a good move as well. But the worst

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<v Speaker 8>part about this, Luke, is that we have one of

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<v Speaker 8>the last Australian made manufacturing industries in this space, led

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<v Speaker 8>by Ducks and Rhem and Renei, who actually could have

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<v Speaker 8>done the majority of his work. Instead they allowed the

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<v Speaker 8>cowboys and the foreign goods to flow into.

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<v Speaker 9>The market and that's where we have the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Excellent reporting and James has got examples of some of

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<v Speaker 3>this stuff gone wrong, including one that stopped working the

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<v Speaker 3>day after installation and another it sounds like it was

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<v Speaker 3>roaring with noise. I mean, you would have been there

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<v Speaker 3>in the shower thinking there was a bloody lion loss

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<v Speaker 3>in the backyard. Great reporting, mate, Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 3>for your time.

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<v Speaker 2>Good to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 9>No worries, glad you mate, Thank you mate.

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<v Speaker 3>James willis there? How about this? Calls for lessons about

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<v Speaker 3>climate change to be deferred to high school because they're

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<v Speaker 3>fueling anxiety and children as young as five. This is

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<v Speaker 3>such a big story. Leading Charles psychologist Claire Rowe has

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<v Speaker 3>released a report. She says that nine year olds are

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<v Speaker 3>crying because they think they're not going to see adulthood

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<v Speaker 3>as the earth will die. Shame on you, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>talking here to the sector that thinks how sexy it

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<v Speaker 3>is to make a change in the weather, a life

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<v Speaker 3>altering experience. Weather it's been changing for the entirety of

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<v Speaker 3>many of us who have got fifty or sixty years

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<v Speaker 3>on it our lives. It's something that happens. One day

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<v Speaker 3>it's wet, another day's dry. Some days it's hot, other

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<v Speaker 3>days it's cold. You might get an East Coast low,

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<v Speaker 3>then you might not get one for a year. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>this is disgusting, all trying and many of these people

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<v Speaker 3>are rent seekers with their fingers in the class change

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<v Speaker 3>subsity pie. It's disgusting. And if people like me go

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<v Speaker 3>out and say this stuff, Oh look at you denier. Ah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you're a denier. So what the hell are kids learning

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<v Speaker 3>in schools? To talk us through the research? I'm pleased

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<v Speaker 3>to say that leading charle psychologists ad junk professor at

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<v Speaker 3>the Institute of Public Affairs, Claire Row joins us on

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<v Speaker 3>the line right now. Thanks so much for your time, Claire,

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<v Speaker 3>and for raising this story. What sort of alarmist messaging

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<v Speaker 3>are kids getting about climate change in schools?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, good morning, Luke, thanks for having me on about this. Look,

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<v Speaker 10>this research that we've done now through the IPA is

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<v Speaker 10>pretty clear, and I found out that we are teaching

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<v Speaker 10>climate change to young children in a way that is

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<v Speaker 10>I think completely developmentally inappropriate. I mean, it just doesn't

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<v Speaker 10>match up with the science of what we know about

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<v Speaker 10>six seven eight year olds in their cognitive capacity to

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<v Speaker 10>even think about this stuff, you know, and they're being

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<v Speaker 10>presented with eccidential threats and pretty doomsday heavy information. And

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<v Speaker 10>even if you subscribe, Luke to climate change happening, it

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<v Speaker 10>doesn't inspire or motivate action. What we're doing is just

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<v Speaker 10>completely scaring our kids and overwhelming them. And as you know,

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<v Speaker 10>I run a clinical practice in Sydney and I've been

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<v Speaker 10>seeing this for the last ten years. We've got nine

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<v Speaker 10>year olds coming in, like you said, who are literally

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<v Speaker 10>in tears and they don't think they're going to make

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<v Speaker 10>it to adulthood. I mean, that is abusive. That is

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<v Speaker 10>absolutely awful, and you know, my staff are looking at

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<v Speaker 10>me saying, how do we help these kids? And it's

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<v Speaker 10>really starting what they're learning at school.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is, I mean that is you said it

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<v Speaker 3>if that's not an abuse of someone's mental health, because

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<v Speaker 3>the reality is there's a good side to this story

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<v Speaker 3>if it is. In fact. No, of course, the climate

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<v Speaker 3>is changing, but we're really good on planet Earth. We

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<v Speaker 3>can adapt, we can change the way we do things,

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<v Speaker 3>we can find a solution. But the spirit of positivity

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<v Speaker 3>and hope. It's almost like Claire, that's being stolen in

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<v Speaker 3>this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, that's exactly it is. We're just paralyzing kids and

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<v Speaker 10>to be kind of you know, as said, anxious and

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<v Speaker 10>have this what we call learned helplessness. And a lot

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<v Speaker 10>of the research up to date has been around climate

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<v Speaker 10>anxiety of mental health as a direct consequence of climate change,

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<v Speaker 10>whereas this IPA research is really about kids are anxious

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<v Speaker 10>not directly because of climate change. They're anxious because of

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<v Speaker 10>the way the curriculum is set up. Most parents don't

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<v Speaker 10>know that sustainability I Climate is what they call a

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<v Speaker 10>cross curriculum priority, and that means it has to be

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<v Speaker 10>in every subject. Like we've got kids in you two

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<v Speaker 10>doing rap songs about climate change in their music lessons,

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<v Speaker 10>So parents have no idea this is going on. It's

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<v Speaker 10>across the board every every day, filtered through, and what

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<v Speaker 10>I'm seeing is the way it's taught. It kind of

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<v Speaker 10>gives this moral pressure to kids that they have to

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<v Speaker 10>do something to save the planet, and of course at

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<v Speaker 10>six or seven years old, they can't. So they're in

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<v Speaker 10>this really stuck position feeling that of course the government's

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<v Speaker 10>not listening to them. They go home to mom and

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<v Speaker 10>dad and they say, we shouldn't be eating red meat,

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<v Speaker 10>or we shouldn't be using the family car as much.

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<v Speaker 10>And it's just awful to see some of the state

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<v Speaker 10>that these kids are in. And of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>it is really about activism through our schools and creating

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<v Speaker 10>young activists. Of course, when they turn out the other end.

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<v Speaker 3>Couldn't agree with you more. The report is the IPA Report,

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<v Speaker 3>Climate Change, Anxiety in pre Adolescent Children and Neuroscientific and

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<v Speaker 3>Psychological Perspective. Well worth a look at the IPA's website.

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<v Speaker 3>Great to talk to you, Claire, Thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 10>Thanks Luke, had a good weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you too, Claire Row. She's a beauty, isn't she

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<v Speaker 3>just a ripper? That's such a big story and of

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<v Speaker 3>course just swept away. Ah, look at that another denier

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<v Speaker 3>give us a break. Gosh, Dennis Shanahan coming up shortly.

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<v Speaker 3>Fascinating story today. The voter turnout in the federal election,

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<v Speaker 3>at ninety point sixty seven is the second lowest in

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred years. The only federal election with a lower

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<v Speaker 3>voter turnout since the introduction of compulsory voting in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five was a COVID effect at twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 3>election that was eighty nine point eight percent of eligible

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<v Speaker 3>voters casting a ballot. After ten this morning, an update

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<v Speaker 3>on the murder of Rachel Childs. The police today announcing

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<v Speaker 3>a higher reward for information. Pauline Hanson will join me

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<v Speaker 3>after ten. One Nation doubling its Senate representation. Looking forward

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<v Speaker 3>to chatting with Pauline economist from Macro Business. Leef van

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<v Speaker 3>Ansalen joining me after eleven Surprise, surprise, federalman talking about

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<v Speaker 3>an East Coast gas reservation policy idea. It's being floated.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder where they got that idea from. Ask a

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<v Speaker 3>trade with Simon Stevenson at ten thirty. We'll get to him.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got Craig Bennett joining me later on. Here look

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<v Speaker 3>at the life and times of Clint Eastwood. He'll also

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<v Speaker 3>reflect on the life of Loretta Swit Hot lips Hulahan

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<v Speaker 3>from mash who's passed away overnight. Yeah, that was on

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<v Speaker 3>Channel ten wasn't it six o'clock at night or something

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<v Speaker 3>like that? Look when I was a kid anyway, that's sad.

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<v Speaker 3>Used to love Hot lips Hulahan. Alice Stole from Domain

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<v Speaker 3>A deep into the real estate markets of Brisbane and Sydney.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, I quiz your calls, texts and emails order

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<v Speaker 3>those breaking using Inframtior to help you get around town

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<v Speaker 3>with a minimum of Farsit Saturday May thirty one, thirteen

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<v Speaker 3>degrees in Sydney, seventeen in Brisbane. And this is weekends

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<v Speaker 3>with Luke Grant on two GB and four BC. We

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<v Speaker 3>better check the roads with the Great Catherine Hines today

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<v Speaker 3>just on this buses made in Australia but actually made

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<v Speaker 3>in China story I see the New South bos opposition

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<v Speaker 3>leader Mark Speakman saying today Chris Means promised one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and twenty six buses would be built in Nara. Instead

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<v Speaker 3>they were being built in Beijing, paraded in a delivery

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<v Speaker 3>ceremony by a Chinese manufacturer, quietly shipped into Port Kembler,

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<v Speaker 3>fully built and draped in red ribbons. He says, this

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<v Speaker 3>is the latest conjob from a government addicted to spin.

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<v Speaker 3>In twenty twenty two, the then labor leaders to with

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<v Speaker 3>unions and launched the built in New South Wales campaign.

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<v Speaker 3>He made made in New South Wales one of his

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<v Speaker 3>slogans of his campaign. Now we know it was never real.

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<v Speaker 3>These buses were never going to be built here. The

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<v Speaker 3>narrow facility Chris Means promised remains a mirage. All that's

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<v Speaker 3>happening locally is the bolting in of seats and installation

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<v Speaker 3>of card readers, not manufacturing, not jobs, and not what

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<v Speaker 3>the premier told the people of New South Wales. Any

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<v Speaker 3>reasonable person would say this doesn't pass the pub test. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>we try and be reasonable here, so allow me to

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<v Speaker 3>say this doesn't pass the pub test.

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<v Speaker 1>Prime and Stuff The Central Politics with Dennis Shanahan, National

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<v Speaker 1>Editor of The Australian.

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<v Speaker 3>Dennis Shanahan, good morning, Good lud. Nice day in Camper.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure it is, my.

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<v Speaker 11>Friend, it's a very nice day. And on down the

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<v Speaker 11>coast it's even nicer.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course you are, or you're probably not far from

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<v Speaker 3>that bus manufacturing planted Narra.

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<v Speaker 11>But we well, I was listening to that. I'm a

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<v Speaker 11>little bit further south, okay.

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<v Speaker 9>But it's beautiful on my cap.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure it is lost to talk about here. The Trump

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<v Speaker 3>administration's asked Australia to lift its defense spending. The Deputy

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<v Speaker 3>Prime Minister and Defense Minister Richard Marles says we're up

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<v Speaker 3>for the conversation. The PM's not so convinced, is he.

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<v Speaker 11>No, he's not. Look, we knew this request was going

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<v Speaker 11>to come. Ever since Donald Trump was elected president. He's

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<v Speaker 11>been saying he wants all the allies to spend more.

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<v Speaker 11>He's asked the Europeans to spend five percent of their GDP,

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<v Speaker 11>the figure that the US has pointed to Australia is

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<v Speaker 11>about three percent now. During the election campaign or before

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<v Speaker 11>the election campaign, Labor committed to a two percent going

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<v Speaker 11>to two point three in eight year years time. Now,

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<v Speaker 11>that's well short of what the US administration has now

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<v Speaker 11>asked Richard Miles for in Singapore, and Richard Miles I said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 11>we're up for this conversation. I love this term that

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<v Speaker 11>we're up for the conversation. Unfortunately, the Prime Minister this

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<v Speaker 11>week has been bagging out think tank for saying that

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<v Speaker 11>we needed to spend more and say no, we don't

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<v Speaker 11>at all the rest. So it looks like Richard Miles

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<v Speaker 11>and Anthony A. Lbernozi are going to have to have

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<v Speaker 11>one of those conversations about increasing spending now. Peter Dutton

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<v Speaker 11>committed during the campaign to increase defense spending to three percent.

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<v Speaker 11>Now the Prime Minister indicated that he would spend more

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<v Speaker 11>if necessary. The question now is does he think it's

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<v Speaker 11>necessary that the US is saying yes, we need to

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<v Speaker 11>put in an estimated extra twenty eight billion dollars into

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<v Speaker 11>the defense budget.

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<v Speaker 3>Goodness me. The coalition finally back together. A new team

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<v Speaker 3>looks to be a product of the factions and payback

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<v Speaker 3>as well being very inexperienced, making the future potentially harder.

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<v Speaker 3>In opposition, people like Jane Hume, who obviously screwed things

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<v Speaker 3>up at a ridiculous level with that work from home idea,

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<v Speaker 3>even though it was for the public service. It was

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<v Speaker 3>so easy for the government to twist that. But she's

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<v Speaker 3>mia to center. Price looks like she's been demoted. What

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<v Speaker 3>do you make of it?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, look the Jacinta Novinjimpa Price is a typical example here.

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<v Speaker 11>She defected from the NATS after the Country Liberal Party

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<v Speaker 11>to be precise to the Liberal Party and joined them

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<v Speaker 11>and said she'd be in their party room. The expectation

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<v Speaker 11>was that she would be rewarded with this and that

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:04.119
<v Speaker 11>she would likely be Indigenous affairs spokesman for the Liberals.

0:28:04.480 --> 0:28:08.160
<v Speaker 11>Now it turns out Karen Little a very good by

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:12.520
<v Speaker 11>the way, you know, she's very good and I've got

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 11>no problem. In fact, I think it's a very good appointment.

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 11>But it is clear that some of the expectations from

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:24.359
<v Speaker 11>Susan Lee's decisions on who she put wear have fallen

0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 11>well short. Certainly Jane Hume has suffered her from working

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:35.119
<v Speaker 11>from hum problem, but she was one of the better

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:39.720
<v Speaker 11>performers for the coalition in opposition. She was a good

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 11>financed spokesman and so I think that she's really suffered,

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 11>probably too much of a demotion then more than she deserved.

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 11>We saw Angus Taylor shifted to foreign affairs. Now he

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 11>had not really hit the government hard enough on the

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 11>economy when he should have, but his foreign affairs isn't

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:06.600
<v Speaker 11>so much of a demotion. It's a bit of a

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 11>sideway shift. But there are other promotions and emotions which

0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 11>indicate Susan Lee and David Little Proud are rewarding people

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 11>who voted for them in close leadership ballots. This is

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 11>always a recipe for disaster, and what we've seen, particularly

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 11>in the appointments in New South Wales is what everyone feared,

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 11>and that is the continuation of the factional fighting, which

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 11>in the New South Wales branch is particularly bad. It's

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 11>not real flash elsewhere, I have to admit, but it

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 11>does indicate that the Susan Lee David a Little Proud team.

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 11>While they are a coalition of short on experience, some

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 11>people have been favored above others because of backing and

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 11>factional support, and I don't think this is good for

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:05.840
<v Speaker 11>the long term, which for a fairly inexperienced group to

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 11>take on what is now a very confident government.

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah confident. They certainly are all right. Dentists just hold

0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 3>their a sect. My friend will take a break, come

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 3>back and talk more. We've got carbon emission reduction targets,

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:21.520
<v Speaker 3>so we're going to get there. I'm not so sure.

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 3>We will back with Dennis on that and plenty more

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 3>after this. Just before I get back to Dennis, a

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 3>couple of things quickly.

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 12>No.

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 3>L four Westmead and Carlingford Line light rail services are

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 3>running between West Meat and Paramatta Square. There are urgent

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 3>tram repairs that the Children's hospital We've just been told this,

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 3>and replacement buses have been requested but are yet to

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:47.360
<v Speaker 3>start running. More details upcoming. And the woman accused of

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 3>the murder of her three year old daughter near Bunderberg

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:53.560
<v Speaker 3>earlier this week has been found unresponsive in her cell

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 3>at Queensland Police saying detectives from the Corrective Services Investigation

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 3>Unit instating after a thirty two year old woman was

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 3>located unresponsive violent custody at Brisbane Women's Correctional Center yesterday.

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 3>There's no further information. Lauren Ingrid Funnigan thirty two, allegedly

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 3>stabbed her daughter so Sofia multiple times on the front

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 3>law lawn of their home at Moore Park Beach on Monday.

0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:28.200
<v Speaker 3>Again we'll get further info. Miss Funnigan's been transferred. I'm

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 3>told to hospital. One three one eight seven three is

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 3>a number. On a Saturday morning, we chapped to Dennis Shanahan,

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 3>the national editor of The Oars and Dennis failing carbon

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 3>emission reduction targets and rising electricity prices putting new pressure

0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 3>on the government's renewable energy policies.

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 11>Ah. Yes, look, Luke, the government got you know, it's

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 11>set a big mandate for its renewable energies policy from

0:31:56.600 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 11>the election campaign. But now we've got a few problems

0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 11>starting to appear. For a start, on the sort of

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 11>the environmental climate change side, it is clear now the

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 11>government is not going to reach it's twenty thirty emissions targets.

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 11>It is not going to do it. The latest figures

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 11>show that carbon emissions are increasing and as the Green said,

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 11>they're actually higher than they were under Scott Morrison. That's

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 11>partly because the COVID impact on manufacturing. But what we've

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 11>actually seen is an increase in carbon emissions, particularly from

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 11>the power sector. And so what we've actually got is

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 11>the government suffering from increased its promises and targets being

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 11>broken because of the increased use of coal fiede power stations,

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 11>extending the life of coal five power stations. We need

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 11>this for the electricity, but it means that the emissions

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 11>are going up. And not only that, in addition, the

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 11>renewable rollout of all the windmills and the offshore wind production,

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 11>the big solar are all falling behind Hydro, the snowy

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 11>Hydro falling behind, going behind schedule, so they're just not

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:24.520
<v Speaker 11>going to reach these targets. And on the other side,

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 11>on the consumer side, electricity prices are going to go

0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:32.400
<v Speaker 11>up on the East Coast from July one by ten percent.

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:36.280
<v Speaker 11>So we all remember that promise of the cut in

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 11>our electricity prices of two hundred and seventy five dollars

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:43.479
<v Speaker 11>the election before. So what the government is now seeing

0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 11>is after the election, in the cold heart light of day,

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 11>is what we're seeing increased power prices, increase carbon emissions,

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 11>and both of them are hurting them in different parts

0:33:58.280 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 11>of the electric.

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, unraveling like many people said it would and it

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 3>will continue, and I'll just say, oh, we need to

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 3>get more solar and more wind, and I'll just make

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 3>it worse. Do you think there'll be another interest rate

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:11.040
<v Speaker 3>cut in July?

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:15.479
<v Speaker 11>Well, look, I think that the figures certainly suggest that would.

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 11>I didn't think the Reserve Bank would go as it

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 11>did at the last meeting. That they did, and that

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 11>was shown this week to have been the right decision

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:32.800
<v Speaker 11>because what we've seen inflation has been steady, but retail

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:35.920
<v Speaker 11>sales are down. This is the first time in several

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:39.280
<v Speaker 11>years that retail sales on a month to month basis

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 11>have actually gone down, and we've also had a collapse

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 11>in private investment for business. These are big problems for

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:51.880
<v Speaker 11>the government. We've got all of the employer groups, all

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 11>of the business groups, all the industry groups saying we're

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:58.839
<v Speaker 11>in a real botta now productivity and we're seeing increased

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:04.280
<v Speaker 11>industrial action, increased demands for higher wages, and the private

0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 11>sector is saying we're not going to invest while we've

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 11>got all of these problems. This was the biggest drop

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:14.879
<v Speaker 11>in private investment for years, and it has really come

0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 11>as a surprise to both the Treasury and business. So

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 11>I think that the economy is starting to get into

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:26.359
<v Speaker 11>that sort of delayed reaction where people are pulling back

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 11>from spending money and business is saying we're not going

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:34.239
<v Speaker 11>to invest. These are longer term problems the government is

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:36.279
<v Speaker 11>really going to have to face, and I think the

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 11>Reserve Bank will probably have to cut rates again in July.

0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:44.359
<v Speaker 3>Have a nice time down on the South coast, mate,

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:46.239
<v Speaker 3>always good to chat to you. Look after yourself and

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:49.480
<v Speaker 3>I'll talk to you in a week's time, thankfully. Dennis Shanahan,

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:54.799
<v Speaker 3>National editor of the Australian newspaper. It all looks. It's

0:35:54.840 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 3>incredible the speed with which political news, financial news and

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:04.359
<v Speaker 3>the like revolves, and how things can quickly turn, and

0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:07.760
<v Speaker 3>how you know you need to have a steady hand,

0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:10.839
<v Speaker 3>and that electing a government is not the best three

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 3>word slogan that's on offer. I'm not saying anything necessarily

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:17.960
<v Speaker 3>about Jimbo or Albow or any of the other Bow's

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 3>ability to deal with things here, but to think that

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 3>you know we're on fire, we're heading in the right

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 3>direction and let's go again baby is sometimes. I mean,

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:31.399
<v Speaker 3>you can you can think that way and hope that way,

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 3>but it really ends up being that simple, doesn't it

0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 3>always the case? Nine to ten. Thank you for listening

0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:39.839
<v Speaker 3>on this Saturday morning. It's five to ten. From the

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:44.240
<v Speaker 3>text line zero four six zero seven three eight seven three.

0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:47.040
<v Speaker 3>Ian says I had a call from someone offering me

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 3>a free hot water heater. When I inquired as to

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 3>what the standards were that at META, if it met

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 3>Australian standards, they hung up. Thank you. Ian Brad says,

0:36:56.719 --> 0:36:59.239
<v Speaker 3>I asked my plumber about electric heat pump hot water

0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 3>systems six months ago. He said no, he wouldn't install

0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 3>any of them as a break not long after installing.

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 3>He wouldn't do that to a loyal customer. Michelle says

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 3>Matt Kean should be charged. If Bobo Bowen was involved,

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:16.959
<v Speaker 3>he should also be charged. Wow, thanks for getting in touch.

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:21.800
<v Speaker 3>Josh on the smoking decreasing rates, says that data is rubbish.

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 3>They're not picking up all the smokers buying illegal cigarettes.

0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.720
<v Speaker 3>Tony says the government gets its stats from cigarette sales.

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:31.319
<v Speaker 3>From what I see, forty percent of cigarette sold are

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:35.000
<v Speaker 3>the illegal ones. Rod says, can they count the illegal

0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:38.839
<v Speaker 3>cigarettes being brought? I think possibly not. Steve says, as

0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:41.240
<v Speaker 3>a smoker, I can't believe there's not an instant medication

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 3>to stop. That's a very interesting point. Thank you, Steve. Yeah,

0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:46.360
<v Speaker 3>I teg you. It was a busy day. Hang on

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:49.799
<v Speaker 3>to your hats. US President Donald Trump says he will

0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 3>double US tariffs on steel imports to fifty percent, likely

0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 3>to affect hundreds of millions of dollars worth of Australian

0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 3>metal exports. Open to our newsroom, Don Ferrell, the Minister

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:07.879
<v Speaker 3>says Australia's positions being consistent and clear. These tariffs are

0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 3>unjustified and not the act of a friend. Breaking news

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 3>news is next.

0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Across Australia. It's back to weekends. We'll look grat.

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning. Thank you for tuning in Saturday. It's the

0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:41.720
<v Speaker 3>thirty first day of May, the last day of autumn

0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 3>winter tomorrow, who's going to get cold? I don't want

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:47.279
<v Speaker 3>to scare you about the climate, but yes, here we

0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:48.960
<v Speaker 3>are on a Saturday morning. I hope things are good

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:51.839
<v Speaker 3>wherever you might be. A wet one in Brisbane, not

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 3>so wet in Sydney. The Son's trying to do its

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 3>best from what we can see. One three one eight

0:38:56.760 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 3>seventy three. That is our open line number. Plenty of calls,

0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:06.880
<v Speaker 3>plenty of texts and asquillion emails that I get too shortly. Apparently,

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:10.000
<v Speaker 3>the Prime Minister's twenty thirty target to reduce emissions is

0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:13.720
<v Speaker 3>on life support, according to Greg Brown and Perry Williams

0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 3>in the OS after new data showed australianan's carbon footprint

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 3>rose last year, driven by a two point two percent

0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 3>increase in the electricity sector, Energy experts declared the Albanesi

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 3>government was set to fail its international commitment to lower

0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 3>emissions by forty three percent of five levels by the

0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 3>end of the decade, complicating Labour's plan of adopting new

0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:42.319
<v Speaker 3>and more ambitious twenty thirty five target ahead of a

0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:46.760
<v Speaker 3>climate change conference in November. Figures released by the Climate

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:50.640
<v Speaker 3>Change Department show CO two emissions rose by zero point

0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:54.800
<v Speaker 3>zero five percent in twenty twenty four, equivalent to a

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:58.759
<v Speaker 3>twenty seven percent lower than two thousand and five, and

0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 3>it needs to be forty three according to the government.

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:05.759
<v Speaker 3>Energy expert Bruce Mountain said he didn't think there was

0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 3>a chance the federal government would meet its twenty thirty commitment.

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:13.000
<v Speaker 3>As I said earlier, the problem with that is that they'll,

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, then they'll go on steroids to do the quick.

0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure wind farm quick and we know how that

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:28.719
<v Speaker 3>ends up. I note this also ABC's Laura Tingle has

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:32.080
<v Speaker 3>unleashed on the newly reunited Liberal and Nationals parties in

0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:35.720
<v Speaker 3>one of her last appearances in her current role, calling

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 3>the current state of the coalition a clown show. Appearing

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:43.319
<v Speaker 3>on the ABC's Party Room podcast for the last time

0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:48.879
<v Speaker 3>with fellow journalists Patricia Cavellis and fran Kelly, Tingle said

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:53.759
<v Speaker 3>the opposition's current policy positions were broadly irrelevant. She says,

0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:56.359
<v Speaker 3>I can say this because I'm going but I don't care.

0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:59.839
<v Speaker 3>These people are irrelevant for the next little while. There

0:40:59.880 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 3>is side show. They're a clown show. See. I think

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:06.720
<v Speaker 3>it's great to have an opinion, great to own your opinion,

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:08.560
<v Speaker 3>but not when the tax payer is paying for it.

0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 3>That's the problem, Laura. And it's okay to believe in

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:15.319
<v Speaker 3>stuff and you, it appears to me from my observations,

0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:19.200
<v Speaker 3>you're a fan of the left of politics or progressive politics,

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:21.960
<v Speaker 3>I called. And that's a matter entirely for you. But

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:25.399
<v Speaker 3>you don't get to express that on our dime. Join

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:28.400
<v Speaker 3>the ranks of commercial media, where you have to compete

0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:30.560
<v Speaker 3>with other stations, and if you do okay, then you

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:33.360
<v Speaker 3>might get another crack at it next time around. But

0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:37.279
<v Speaker 3>that's the problem, always been the problem, not the fact

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:41.440
<v Speaker 3>that you're not entitled to an opinion. You are good, ay, youna, oh,

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 3>good morning morning.

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:43.920
<v Speaker 13>How are you?

0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:47.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm well? How are you? I am the same, lovely

0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:50.879
<v Speaker 3>nice to hear. Yes, what would you like to say

0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 3>to me?

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:54.360
<v Speaker 13>Well, I'm going to tell you about a young relative

0:41:54.440 --> 0:42:00.040
<v Speaker 13>of mine who covered from addiction to smoking. Yes, I

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:04.319
<v Speaker 13>had a new baby in the house and the doctor said,

0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:07.400
<v Speaker 13>it's not good for this child to be in a

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:09.959
<v Speaker 13>smoke soaked that this fear.

0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:13.359
<v Speaker 13>If you were going to remain a smoker, don't ever

0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 13>smoke in the house with him or in the car yep.

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:19.120
<v Speaker 13>Always smoke well away from him, and don't put him

0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:20.320
<v Speaker 13>against your clothes.

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 11>Yep, you auficeh smoked soaked.

0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 13>So he went off and had hyptotherapy.

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<v Speaker 3>Did that work?

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<v Speaker 12>It?

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<v Speaker 9>Did?

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<v Speaker 13>He needed to do it more than once, yes, so

0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:35.359
<v Speaker 13>definitely twice, maybe a third time, right, But he did

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:39.200
<v Speaker 13>give up smoking and he's never smoked since. And both

0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:42.040
<v Speaker 13>he and his son are a little bit prone to

0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 13>bron kite see things. They're supposed to carry a.

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<v Speaker 3>Puffer, right and how long? How long has he been

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<v Speaker 3>off the cigarettes?

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<v Speaker 13>For over thirty years?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, Well even if you have three goes at it,

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:59.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, I mean, it's worked. And you know, talking

0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:02.920
<v Speaker 3>about the effects on his son probably helped as well.

0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's a great story. Thank you, Youna. Really appreciate

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:09.640
<v Speaker 3>the core. Thank you for listening to our show too.

0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Nice to have you on board. One eight seven three

0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:18.439
<v Speaker 3>is the happen line number. Now a story that we've

0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:22.840
<v Speaker 3>been talking about for a little while. Here is the

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:27.960
<v Speaker 3>investigations into the murder of Rachel Or. Rachelle Chiles, a

0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:31.040
<v Speaker 3>twenty three year old, was last scene leaving work in Camden,

0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:34.359
<v Speaker 3>southwest of Sydney in two thousand and one in her

0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:38.239
<v Speaker 3>prize holden commodore. Nine hours later, her burnt and half

0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:42.920
<v Speaker 3>naked body was found one hundred kilometers away in GIRoA.

0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:47.239
<v Speaker 3>There's currently a reward in place for information. When we

0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:51.440
<v Speaker 3>spoke to Rachelle Or Rachel's sister Christy earlier in the year,

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:54.360
<v Speaker 3>we discovered that the family had written to the police

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:58.480
<v Speaker 3>Minister Yasmin Katley about increasing the reward from two hundred

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 3>to five hundred thousand dollars and I think at the

0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:04.319
<v Speaker 3>time I hadn't heard back. But since the launch of

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:09.880
<v Speaker 3>the Dear rachel podcast and subsequent reporting, very good reporting

0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:12.400
<v Speaker 3>in the news, court papers, and application has been submitted

0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:16.840
<v Speaker 3>by police to have the reward increased. That would be

0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:19.040
<v Speaker 3>partly due to the excellent work of the former New

0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:23.239
<v Speaker 3>South Wales detective Sergeant Damien Loon, who's been in and

0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 3>around this case and we spoke to him a little

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:28.399
<v Speaker 3>while back as well, a very good man who I'm

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:30.160
<v Speaker 3>delighted to say is on the line.

0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:34.320
<v Speaker 6>How are you, Damien, Good morning Lerk and to your listeners,

0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:35.920
<v Speaker 6>I'm great, thank you, good on you.

0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:39.360
<v Speaker 3>What is its application for a reward increase mean? Is

0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:40.680
<v Speaker 3>it likely that we'll see one?

0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:44.400
<v Speaker 6>Look, hopefully we do it. We'll go before a panel

0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:47.320
<v Speaker 6>to consider the amount of money that should be offered

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:51.120
<v Speaker 6>and look, what much do you pay on someone's life? Really,

0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:54.400
<v Speaker 6>it's I think it needs to be a life changing

0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:57.560
<v Speaker 6>amount to elicit that information to come from someone to

0:44:57.600 --> 0:44:59.799
<v Speaker 6>come forward to the authorities and tell them what.

0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:04.000
<v Speaker 3>They When we spoke with you and Rachelle's sister Christy,

0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:08.520
<v Speaker 3>and we learned that the Police Minister was very slow

0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:12.680
<v Speaker 3>or not even prepared to acknowledge the communication. Doesn't this

0:45:12.960 --> 0:45:16.399
<v Speaker 3>prove that, whether it's say a cold case or something else,

0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:19.280
<v Speaker 3>if you get enough people and you get enough pressure,

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 3>you get I mean, it shouldn't be like this, but

0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:22.800
<v Speaker 3>you end up with a result.

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:26.719
<v Speaker 6>Oh that's true too, and so thankful for lot to

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:29.360
<v Speaker 6>two GBO as well on the Dear Rochelle podcast and

0:45:29.440 --> 0:45:32.799
<v Speaker 6>news Court. It's very important that we show as a

0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 6>community that we care about this young lady that was

0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:37.520
<v Speaker 6>murdered in a prime of a life. And it's a

0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 6>week away from the twenty fourth anniversary. And remember she

0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 6>was only twenty three when she died, so she's been

0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:47.479
<v Speaker 6>dead longer than the whole scenario. It's terrible after twenty

0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:50.760
<v Speaker 6>four years. And I just think it's you know, peer pressure.

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:53.719
<v Speaker 6>As a community, we care, and we're getting that message out.

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:57.319
<v Speaker 3>To the government and we're saying here that look, you

0:45:57.440 --> 0:46:01.520
<v Speaker 3>know stuff. So I mean in relation to this case

0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 3>and how these cases work. So are you with the

0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:08.480
<v Speaker 3>view that people do know something and this just might

0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:09.760
<v Speaker 3>encourage and we come forward.

0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:13.759
<v Speaker 6>Oh look, absolutely, I do believe. So I think, as

0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:16.360
<v Speaker 6>we say over time and we've talked about this before

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:19.560
<v Speaker 6>some stage that people may be in the relationship and

0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:23.160
<v Speaker 6>they're intimidated to say something, but over time that relationship

0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:26.759
<v Speaker 6>may break up or separated. And now that they can

0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 6>see now that they can say something worthwhile that they

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:32.080
<v Speaker 6>may know and it just might be a simple word

0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:34.560
<v Speaker 6>or a sentence or something that they may have seen

0:46:34.880 --> 0:46:38.000
<v Speaker 6>or overheard that may be the piece of the jigsaw

0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:39.200
<v Speaker 6>puzzle or put it all together.

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:43.640
<v Speaker 3>What's the most significant breakthrough you've witnessed as a result

0:46:43.680 --> 0:46:46.360
<v Speaker 3>of the podcast and the reporting. Has there been something?

0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:50.080
<v Speaker 6>Look, there is only you know, I can't go any

0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:52.799
<v Speaker 6>further than say what yesterday that I received a phone

0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:57.120
<v Speaker 6>call that'll be up in the next forthcoming episodes through

0:46:57.160 --> 0:47:00.200
<v Speaker 6>the Dear Roselle podcast. But some people are coming forward

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:03.160
<v Speaker 6>and the community are reaching out to the reducer, Ashley

0:47:03.200 --> 0:47:06.439
<v Speaker 6>Hanson for questions and asking questions. And I think it's

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:09.200
<v Speaker 6>wonderful because it seems to me that's generated a lot

0:47:09.200 --> 0:47:11.560
<v Speaker 6>of interest and this is what we need to have

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:14.240
<v Speaker 6>for this matter to be solved, and I do believe

0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:14.920
<v Speaker 6>it's solvable.

0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:18.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Great. The podcast is Dear Raschild. You can hear

0:47:18.440 --> 0:47:21.080
<v Speaker 3>that wherever you get your podcasts, and the reporting is

0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:23.839
<v Speaker 3>in the news Court papers. Good to talk Damien, thanks so.

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:26.000
<v Speaker 6>Much mate, Thanks Leuch all the best to.

0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:29.000
<v Speaker 3>You, Damien Lun Pauline Hanson next, yeah, I guess so

0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:31.800
<v Speaker 3>quick night through from police. They're searching for two people

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:35.960
<v Speaker 3>after three men were injured in Dubbo this morning. Emergency

0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:39.719
<v Speaker 3>services called to Dubbo shortly after three am. They found

0:47:39.719 --> 0:47:43.920
<v Speaker 3>three men suffering stab wounds. They were reportedly attacked on

0:47:43.920 --> 0:47:46.920
<v Speaker 3>the footpath by two other men. Twenty one year old

0:47:46.960 --> 0:47:49.759
<v Speaker 3>man's been treated for stab wounds to his head, back

0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:54.760
<v Speaker 3>and lower body. Two men, both twenty nine they received

0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:57.560
<v Speaker 3>stab wounds to their upper body. All three men take

0:47:57.600 --> 0:48:03.240
<v Speaker 3>into Dubbo Base Hospital in a stable condition. A crime

0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:07.239
<v Speaker 3>scene has been established, inquiries have commenced. Police are now

0:48:07.280 --> 0:48:12.520
<v Speaker 3>searching for two men they believe can assist in initial

0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:15.680
<v Speaker 3>inquiries I say indicate at least three of the men

0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:18.600
<v Speaker 3>are known to each other and Patsengers traveling from the

0:48:18.600 --> 0:48:21.680
<v Speaker 3>city on the tight airport in South Line are advised

0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:24.800
<v Speaker 3>to allow extra travel time due to urgent train repairs

0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:29.919
<v Speaker 3>near the domestic airport in Sydney. Trains from the city

0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:33.120
<v Speaker 3>are not stopping at Green Square, Mascot Domestic Airport or

0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:37.640
<v Speaker 3>International airport trains to the city are not affected. What

0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:39.799
<v Speaker 3>if you're about to fly out, you thought, I'll leave

0:48:39.800 --> 0:48:42.960
<v Speaker 3>the car at home and get the Juju train. Whoops.

0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:46.279
<v Speaker 3>We'll keep you updated on that now. Pauline Hanson's One

0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:49.879
<v Speaker 3>Nation has doubled its presence in the Senate. They've picked

0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:52.879
<v Speaker 3>up two new senators. They've now got a total of four,

0:48:52.960 --> 0:48:55.080
<v Speaker 3>the same number as the Nationals if you don't mind.

0:48:55.760 --> 0:48:59.240
<v Speaker 3>One of the new senators Warwick Stacey from New South Wales,

0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:03.920
<v Speaker 3>British and Australian Army veteran. Part of his service included

0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:09.120
<v Speaker 3>spending time advising on ransom, kidnapp and crisis events, so

0:49:09.280 --> 0:49:13.400
<v Speaker 3>he's definitely not from the camera bubble. But while Pauline

0:49:13.400 --> 0:49:15.640
<v Speaker 3>and the One Nation team are no doubt popping the

0:49:15.760 --> 0:49:20.239
<v Speaker 3>Champagne corks, it'll be Labor and the Greens dominating the

0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:23.520
<v Speaker 3>new look Upper House. So I wonder what an increase

0:49:23.560 --> 0:49:27.200
<v Speaker 3>to One Nation presence means to the Senate. And I

0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:31.440
<v Speaker 3>wonder what Pauline Hansen makes of the minds of voters

0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:34.719
<v Speaker 3>that they've now given One Nation the equal number of

0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:38.760
<v Speaker 3>senators as they've given the Nationals. Let's find out, because

0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:42.560
<v Speaker 3>Pauline Hanson. I'm delighted to say one nation leader is

0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:45.560
<v Speaker 3>on the line. Great to talk to you. I hope

0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:47.680
<v Speaker 3>you're will and you must be delighted with that news

0:49:47.680 --> 0:49:49.920
<v Speaker 3>when it came through yesterday, Pauline.

0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:53.040
<v Speaker 7>Oh, I was when I heard it. I was so excited.

0:49:53.120 --> 0:49:54.960
<v Speaker 7>And when I heard the news, I knew there was

0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:56.759
<v Speaker 7>a chance there and out for a chance, but to

0:49:56.800 --> 0:49:59.480
<v Speaker 7>actually get the news of it, it was just so exciting, Luke,

0:49:59.520 --> 0:50:02.040
<v Speaker 7>and thank you. Yes we do have four senators, Yes

0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:04.600
<v Speaker 7>we won't have control of the Senate, but the fact

0:50:04.719 --> 0:50:09.279
<v Speaker 7>is that it's a start. And what Warwick will bring

0:50:09.320 --> 0:50:12.840
<v Speaker 7>to the Senators. He's experienced and knowledge and capabilities to

0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:16.680
<v Speaker 7>deal with defense, and I don't believe there's anyone else

0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:19.560
<v Speaker 7>in that Senate who really has their head across the

0:50:19.680 --> 0:50:23.400
<v Speaker 7>defense portfolio. So it's like Malcolm Roberts snow and can

0:50:23.440 --> 0:50:26.319
<v Speaker 7>debate him on the climate issues, any Cannazy issues and

0:50:26.360 --> 0:50:29.359
<v Speaker 7>speak about it and hold them to account. Same thing

0:50:29.400 --> 0:50:32.840
<v Speaker 7>can be said for Warwick because of his background in defense,

0:50:32.880 --> 0:50:34.719
<v Speaker 7>and he's been very passionate about it. When I was

0:50:34.760 --> 0:50:37.080
<v Speaker 7>spoken to him, this is one of the things why

0:50:37.320 --> 0:50:39.960
<v Speaker 7>you know he was selected to be head the Senate ticket,

0:50:40.480 --> 0:50:43.480
<v Speaker 7>and he's been a businessman and consultant, so I think

0:50:43.520 --> 0:50:45.800
<v Speaker 7>he's got a lot off the Parliament. It's about holding

0:50:45.840 --> 0:50:49.560
<v Speaker 7>them account to account and also pushed the coalition along

0:50:49.640 --> 0:50:52.160
<v Speaker 7>as well. Last time they just sat there lick their wounds.

0:50:52.480 --> 0:50:55.120
<v Speaker 7>They were so, you know, couldn't get over the fact

0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:57.120
<v Speaker 7>that they lost the election. To the extent they did.

0:50:57.160 --> 0:51:00.440
<v Speaker 7>It be worse this time. So it's like we're going

0:51:00.520 --> 0:51:03.200
<v Speaker 7>to hold everyone to accounts, you know, the coalition as well,

0:51:03.280 --> 0:51:07.239
<v Speaker 7>do your job, stop in the opposition and call out

0:51:07.280 --> 0:51:09.040
<v Speaker 7>the Labor Party in the Greens for what they're trying

0:51:09.040 --> 0:51:09.840
<v Speaker 7>to tell the Parliament.

0:51:10.000 --> 0:51:12.520
<v Speaker 3>And you know, the good thing here is that and

0:51:12.760 --> 0:51:14.640
<v Speaker 3>we all call for it. I think many of us

0:51:14.640 --> 0:51:18.600
<v Speaker 3>are sick of political staffers who become MPs. I'm sure

0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:20.840
<v Speaker 3>there are very good ones, but we want people with

0:51:20.960 --> 0:51:23.320
<v Speaker 3>real life experience, people who've lived a bit, who have

0:51:23.400 --> 0:51:26.840
<v Speaker 3>done some stuff, maybe run a business, and what Borrock's

0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:31.359
<v Speaker 3>done is next level. But the lived experience is that

0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:34.520
<v Speaker 3>he will bring to the Parliament much like yourself and others.

0:51:34.840 --> 0:51:38.359
<v Speaker 3>That lived experience is vital because it better represents us,

0:51:38.400 --> 0:51:39.879
<v Speaker 3>doesn't it.

0:51:39.880 --> 0:51:41.920
<v Speaker 7>It does lurk And that's what I was looking for

0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:44.880
<v Speaker 7>and they can now. Tyrone Wishen, who actually got elected

0:51:44.880 --> 0:51:47.840
<v Speaker 7>in Western Australia, he started a few years ago his

0:51:47.960 --> 0:51:53.400
<v Speaker 7>business in the concrete civil construction industry. Now with him,

0:51:53.440 --> 0:51:55.800
<v Speaker 7>Andy's brothers start a business. They went on to employ

0:51:55.840 --> 0:51:58.520
<v Speaker 7>a thousand people. He started to his brother a couple

0:51:58.560 --> 0:52:02.600
<v Speaker 7>of years ago. He's moved on. He's doing some superintendent

0:52:02.640 --> 0:52:05.080
<v Speaker 7>work that he's doing at the moment, advisory work, I

0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:05.600
<v Speaker 7>should say.

0:52:06.400 --> 0:52:06.440
<v Speaker 12>So.

0:52:06.520 --> 0:52:10.120
<v Speaker 7>Anyway, he's got that experience in business, big business because

0:52:10.120 --> 0:52:12.520
<v Speaker 7>they travel, made to dealt with the mining industry and

0:52:12.640 --> 0:52:17.280
<v Speaker 7>other organizations. So it's the people with that background experience

0:52:17.320 --> 0:52:19.680
<v Speaker 7>that I was looking for that we can actually spread

0:52:19.719 --> 0:52:24.480
<v Speaker 7>out our portfolios. Like I'm very passionate about Aboriginal affairs, immigration,

0:52:25.080 --> 0:52:27.600
<v Speaker 7>a family law and the type thing. Malcolm very much

0:52:27.640 --> 0:52:30.760
<v Speaker 7>in the banking sector, and also to do with climate

0:52:30.880 --> 0:52:34.360
<v Speaker 7>change and all those issues environmental issues. So I'm trying

0:52:34.400 --> 0:52:37.480
<v Speaker 7>to get an array of people with that background knowledge

0:52:37.520 --> 0:52:39.720
<v Speaker 7>and experience because a lot of per senators and members

0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:42.040
<v Speaker 7>of Florida Parliament have no idea what they're hell they're

0:52:42.040 --> 0:52:44.200
<v Speaker 7>talking about. They all just follow the league when the

0:52:44.280 --> 0:52:46.879
<v Speaker 7>bells ring, they just follow the party and they don't

0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:48.880
<v Speaker 7>you know, they can't really debate a lot of the

0:52:48.960 --> 0:52:52.320
<v Speaker 7>subjects although what they're talking about. So to get that debate,

0:52:52.480 --> 0:52:54.680
<v Speaker 7>to get good government, you have to have good opposition.

0:52:55.080 --> 0:52:57.320
<v Speaker 7>You have to challenge their way of thinking. You have

0:52:57.440 --> 0:53:00.120
<v Speaker 7>to inform the public or what is the truth, and

0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:04.560
<v Speaker 7>not just pass legislation for sake of Okay, let's go through.

0:53:04.880 --> 0:53:07.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let me ask you this. For a long time,

0:53:07.840 --> 0:53:10.640
<v Speaker 3>you and I both know that the left saw One

0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Nation almost as a party ridicule and that's not been matched,

0:53:15.200 --> 0:53:18.359
<v Speaker 3>has it by the general public? And I think even

0:53:18.440 --> 0:53:21.840
<v Speaker 3>now many within the body politic see you as a

0:53:21.920 --> 0:53:25.840
<v Speaker 3>political force and your party is a political force and

0:53:26.120 --> 0:53:28.520
<v Speaker 3>one to be taken seriously. It feels like that, does

0:53:28.560 --> 0:53:28.880
<v Speaker 3>it for you?

0:53:30.360 --> 0:53:33.959
<v Speaker 7>Look, it's starting to get that traction that it's taken

0:53:33.960 --> 0:53:35.160
<v Speaker 7>me a long time, long time.

0:53:36.040 --> 0:53:36.640
<v Speaker 5>Yes, it has.

0:53:37.280 --> 0:53:41.200
<v Speaker 7>The labor still regard me as that threat to them.

0:53:41.480 --> 0:53:43.759
<v Speaker 7>That's why they always put my nation lass and so

0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:46.640
<v Speaker 7>as the Greens for no reason whatsoever. So they just

0:53:46.760 --> 0:53:49.440
<v Speaker 7>do it purely to keep us out. And when Howard

0:53:49.560 --> 0:53:52.200
<v Speaker 7>changed the voting system in nineteen ninety eight, up we've

0:53:52.200 --> 0:53:55.120
<v Speaker 7>got eleven seats in Queensland. That was purely when they

0:53:55.239 --> 0:54:00.319
<v Speaker 7>all preference this last, Labor, Greens, Nationals, Democrats, everyone one

0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:02.560
<v Speaker 7>nation last. Although we've got the votes and should have

0:54:02.640 --> 0:54:05.279
<v Speaker 7>translated into seats, he didn't because we didn't get the

0:54:05.280 --> 0:54:08.040
<v Speaker 7>flow preferences. So we've had this going on for years.

0:54:08.160 --> 0:54:14.680
<v Speaker 7>Even Morrison in nineteen twenty nineteen he didn't even give

0:54:14.760 --> 0:54:18.200
<v Speaker 7>us preferences in some states so refused to Maurice Payne

0:54:18.280 --> 0:54:22.720
<v Speaker 7>in New South Wales, Simon Birmingham in South Australia. Even

0:54:23.080 --> 0:54:25.560
<v Speaker 7>there was Dan Smith in westn Australia and Linda Reynolds.

0:54:25.600 --> 0:54:29.040
<v Speaker 7>They all refused to give one nation preferences at all

0:54:29.400 --> 0:54:32.800
<v Speaker 7>and so therefore they locked and bolted the door because

0:54:32.800 --> 0:54:35.840
<v Speaker 7>they didn't want us to be competition. Your only competition

0:54:35.960 --> 0:54:38.120
<v Speaker 7>when they're not doing their job, Luke, and that's why

0:54:38.200 --> 0:54:40.520
<v Speaker 7>people looking for someone else to vote for. But if

0:54:40.520 --> 0:54:43.320
<v Speaker 7>we're standing by the Conservative principles and values and what

0:54:43.400 --> 0:54:45.879
<v Speaker 7>we're finding for the Australian way of life and standard living,

0:54:46.320 --> 0:54:48.359
<v Speaker 7>you know, that's because they've failed their job. And that's

0:54:48.400 --> 0:54:50.600
<v Speaker 7>why a lot of people now are drifted away from

0:54:50.680 --> 0:54:53.759
<v Speaker 7>Coalition because they've been taken over by the moderates. And

0:54:53.880 --> 0:54:56.200
<v Speaker 7>this is going to continue to happen. So that's why

0:54:56.280 --> 0:54:58.279
<v Speaker 7>you've seen a lot of people come across even that

0:54:58.480 --> 0:55:01.439
<v Speaker 7>are failing those in the book, and they're not dealing

0:55:01.480 --> 0:55:03.480
<v Speaker 7>with the real issues to do with the farming sector.

0:55:03.719 --> 0:55:03.919
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:55:04.000 --> 0:55:05.600
<v Speaker 3>Well, and the other point I think that needs to

0:55:05.640 --> 0:55:09.400
<v Speaker 3>be made, apart from the suggestion that the Liberals have

0:55:09.480 --> 0:55:13.680
<v Speaker 3>stopped being a truly conservative party largely or they've got

0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:17.799
<v Speaker 3>factions within them that are very much progressive, I think

0:55:17.840 --> 0:55:19.719
<v Speaker 3>the other point to make is, and you made this

0:55:19.880 --> 0:55:23.560
<v Speaker 3>point yourself, is that it now appears in hindsight that

0:55:23.680 --> 0:55:26.280
<v Speaker 3>for much of the three years, if they weren't licking

0:55:26.400 --> 0:55:31.279
<v Speaker 3>their wounds post Morrison, they weren't able to develop well,

0:55:31.360 --> 0:55:34.040
<v Speaker 3>they developed policies, but they didn't develop a way to

0:55:34.400 --> 0:55:38.040
<v Speaker 3>properly sell them. And you know they've they've they've left

0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:40.719
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people. That really did let a lot

0:55:40.760 --> 0:55:41.319
<v Speaker 3>of people down.

0:55:41.360 --> 0:55:44.560
<v Speaker 7>I reckon a lot of people wanted to change the government.

0:55:44.560 --> 0:55:46.600
<v Speaker 7>They didn't want labor. Now, Labor only got elected on

0:55:46.760 --> 0:55:49.120
<v Speaker 7>thirty five percent of the boat. Yes they got ninety

0:55:49.120 --> 0:55:51.520
<v Speaker 7>four seats, and yes they've got control of parliaments, but

0:55:51.640 --> 0:55:54.359
<v Speaker 7>I don't think it's unwinnable of the coalition to come

0:55:54.440 --> 0:55:56.600
<v Speaker 7>back at the next selection if they put the hard

0:55:56.640 --> 0:55:59.360
<v Speaker 7>work and effort into it and had decent policies. So

0:55:59.520 --> 0:56:02.959
<v Speaker 7>we put our good, strong core policies and was helping

0:56:03.000 --> 0:56:05.840
<v Speaker 7>the pinches and veterans be able to work without effecting

0:56:05.880 --> 0:56:10.560
<v Speaker 7>their pensions, income splitting, helping self kind of retirees. Ours

0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:13.480
<v Speaker 7>was the fuel tax, exercise relief, also getting rid of

0:56:13.520 --> 0:56:17.240
<v Speaker 7>the alcohol tax in hospitality industry to give them a boost,

0:56:17.800 --> 0:56:20.319
<v Speaker 7>and cutting your power bills by twenty percent, which could

0:56:20.320 --> 0:56:23.400
<v Speaker 7>be done straight immediately if we've went back to common

0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:27.760
<v Speaker 7>sense qualified power stations running twenty four seven instead stopping

0:56:27.920 --> 0:56:31.279
<v Speaker 7>starting them. So these things can be done that you've

0:56:31.320 --> 0:56:33.439
<v Speaker 7>got to have the will and one of it's lacking

0:56:33.480 --> 0:56:36.400
<v Speaker 7>in the Parliament is a vision for the future and

0:56:36.520 --> 0:56:39.400
<v Speaker 7>the spirit clear policies see news Self Wales are basically

0:56:39.520 --> 0:56:42.480
<v Speaker 7>taken over by the moderates. In New South Welsh.

0:56:42.960 --> 0:56:45.719
<v Speaker 5>COVID check correct and they.

0:56:45.360 --> 0:56:48.080
<v Speaker 7>Ouse to Holly Shoes, So you've got a real problem

0:56:48.160 --> 0:56:48.759
<v Speaker 7>New South Wales.

0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:51.719
<v Speaker 5>Now I'm want to.

0:56:51.760 --> 0:56:55.080
<v Speaker 7>Apologize for excuse me, to New South Wales because we've

0:56:55.120 --> 0:56:57.960
<v Speaker 7>had some of our members walk away. Tanya Mahalekan and

0:56:58.600 --> 0:57:01.920
<v Speaker 7>cause Mark lath And and that's in the state, and

0:57:02.040 --> 0:57:05.640
<v Speaker 7>that's in the state. But that was because I would

0:57:05.680 --> 0:57:08.000
<v Speaker 7>not be bullied and I won't be held ransom and

0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:11.880
<v Speaker 7>I won't be told you know, I'm threatened. And now

0:57:11.960 --> 0:57:13.680
<v Speaker 7>I've got a good team. I've got a good team

0:57:13.719 --> 0:57:16.440
<v Speaker 7>in Warwick Stacy and this is to rebuild, to move

0:57:16.520 --> 0:57:19.480
<v Speaker 7>forward as a party, to give people a voice and

0:57:19.640 --> 0:57:22.640
<v Speaker 7>for a Parliament without fear of favor. And that's where

0:57:22.680 --> 0:57:24.680
<v Speaker 7>I'm strong what I do. Yes, I take the few

0:57:24.760 --> 0:57:27.680
<v Speaker 7>knocks long away, but sometimes you have to because thise

0:57:27.720 --> 0:57:29.960
<v Speaker 7>people will stand over you and think just because I

0:57:30.040 --> 0:57:32.000
<v Speaker 7>remember Parliament, they can say and do whatever they want

0:57:32.040 --> 0:57:35.440
<v Speaker 7>to do. It's a team effort here, it's team effort.

0:57:36.040 --> 0:57:38.360
<v Speaker 7>If I allow that, then they'll do whatever and say

0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:40.240
<v Speaker 7>whatever and threaten me. That's not going to happen.

0:57:40.360 --> 0:57:42.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, good on you. Two quick things. I spoke to

0:57:42.600 --> 0:57:45.200
<v Speaker 3>a very impressive woman just prior to the election, your

0:57:45.280 --> 0:57:49.440
<v Speaker 3>daughter Lee. I'm disappointed that she didn't take a Senate position.

0:57:49.560 --> 0:57:52.520
<v Speaker 3>I hope, I hope. This doesn't mean she won't run again.

0:57:52.600 --> 0:57:54.320
<v Speaker 3>Do you think you could encourage her to run again?

0:57:55.160 --> 0:57:57.920
<v Speaker 7>No, she's running, she said. I'm you'veouthed already out there

0:57:57.960 --> 0:58:01.160
<v Speaker 7>telling people I'm running agains. She stuff always saying, Oh,

0:58:01.520 --> 0:58:04.200
<v Speaker 7>it's great to hear you're running again. She said, thanks, mum.

0:58:06.040 --> 0:58:09.280
<v Speaker 3>Isn't that fantastic. She was a very impressive woman. I

0:58:09.400 --> 0:58:12.000
<v Speaker 3>have to say in my audience loved hearing from her.

0:58:12.240 --> 0:58:13.640
<v Speaker 3>I really I'm.

0:58:13.520 --> 0:58:17.080
<v Speaker 6>Glad to hear that she's going to be involved with it.

0:58:17.200 --> 0:58:20.400
<v Speaker 7>She's going to keep working for Tassy and get around

0:58:20.440 --> 0:58:23.280
<v Speaker 7>there and keep involved in politics and the type of thing.

0:58:23.360 --> 0:58:23.480
<v Speaker 11>Now.

0:58:23.760 --> 0:58:25.720
<v Speaker 7>She has a lot to offer. Look, get her on

0:58:25.800 --> 0:58:28.400
<v Speaker 7>the program. She expect you about some of the issues

0:58:28.440 --> 0:58:31.640
<v Speaker 7>to do with HR and education and the people like

0:58:31.720 --> 0:58:33.400
<v Speaker 7>to listen to her. She's got a lot to offer,

0:58:33.920 --> 0:58:38.160
<v Speaker 7>and so anyway, I'm going to keep her involved. She

0:58:38.280 --> 0:58:41.400
<v Speaker 7>wants to. I'm not pushing her. She wants to do

0:58:41.440 --> 0:58:43.160
<v Speaker 7>it because Mom, she said, Now I see what you've

0:58:43.160 --> 0:58:45.760
<v Speaker 7>been doing. She said, I never realized how tough you've

0:58:45.800 --> 0:58:48.160
<v Speaker 7>had it all these years. My god, she said, I've

0:58:48.200 --> 0:58:51.000
<v Speaker 7>had one loss. She said, I know what you must

0:58:51.040 --> 0:58:53.240
<v Speaker 7>have felt like all these years. Every time you get

0:58:53.320 --> 0:58:56.160
<v Speaker 7>knocked down and you get back up again. She said, No,

0:58:56.400 --> 0:58:57.560
<v Speaker 7>she's she's.

0:58:57.400 --> 0:59:01.000
<v Speaker 3>A good kid, excellent. Well, when you speak to her next,

0:59:01.280 --> 0:59:03.400
<v Speaker 3>tell your doctor in for a spot on the show

0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:05.280
<v Speaker 3>every so often, and we'll be in touch with her

0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:07.840
<v Speaker 3>and it's love to hear your voice. Well done and

0:59:08.240 --> 0:59:09.120
<v Speaker 3>take care of yourself.

0:59:10.120 --> 0:59:12.280
<v Speaker 7>Thanks for having me on and to all the people

0:59:12.320 --> 0:59:14.120
<v Speaker 7>in your suppose. Thank you from the bottom of my

0:59:14.200 --> 0:59:16.720
<v Speaker 7>heart to voting One Nation giving us that opportunity to

0:59:16.800 --> 0:59:17.320
<v Speaker 7>represent you.

0:59:17.680 --> 0:59:21.920
<v Speaker 3>Fantastic, fantastic, Pauline Hanson, Leader of One Nation. Now, if

0:59:21.920 --> 0:59:24.120
<v Speaker 3>you've got a question for Simon Stevenson, now is the

0:59:24.200 --> 0:59:27.040
<v Speaker 3>time to hit the lines one three one eight seven

0:59:27.200 --> 0:59:32.360
<v Speaker 3>three on our way to Simon Amy. Good morning, Hi, Hi,

0:59:32.680 --> 0:59:33.640
<v Speaker 3>Hi Amy, how are you?

0:59:34.120 --> 0:59:35.520
<v Speaker 14>Oh good?

0:59:35.640 --> 0:59:35.920
<v Speaker 15>Thank you.

0:59:36.360 --> 0:59:39.800
<v Speaker 14>I'd just like to say thank you for that interview

0:59:39.880 --> 0:59:43.160
<v Speaker 14>with Pauline Hanson that was so richly informative. I don't

0:59:43.240 --> 0:59:46.720
<v Speaker 14>know a lot about politics. I'm just getting really interested now.

0:59:47.000 --> 0:59:50.360
<v Speaker 14>A victim became an adult all of a sudden, and

0:59:50.480 --> 0:59:54.280
<v Speaker 14>I just found her so informative and I actually had

0:59:54.280 --> 0:59:58.080
<v Speaker 14>a lot of confidence and hopeful, you know, her future

0:59:58.360 --> 1:00:03.720
<v Speaker 14>and for our future. She's an amazing speaker and even

1:00:04.080 --> 1:00:04.439
<v Speaker 14>her daughter.

1:00:04.480 --> 1:00:05.800
<v Speaker 15>I'm looking forward to see what they do.

1:00:05.960 --> 1:00:07.880
<v Speaker 16>So thank you for that really reaching interview.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you Amy for calling and saying that I really

1:00:10.800 --> 1:00:12.800
<v Speaker 3>appreciate it. Well, she's a you know what, she's a

1:00:12.840 --> 1:00:16.240
<v Speaker 3>plane talker. There's not spin, there's not bs, there's not

1:00:17.400 --> 1:00:19.400
<v Speaker 3>you know. I refer to my answer the other day.

1:00:19.440 --> 1:00:21.520
<v Speaker 3>It's just I don't want to say it hits you

1:00:21.600 --> 1:00:23.520
<v Speaker 3>in the eye, but it's kind of you know, It's

1:00:24.040 --> 1:00:26.800
<v Speaker 3>how you and I would speak. Here's a question, he's

1:00:26.800 --> 1:00:29.160
<v Speaker 3>an answer, not this other rubbish that serves itself up

1:00:29.200 --> 1:00:32.000
<v Speaker 3>as a political commentary. Thanks Amy so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Now on weekends as good training thanks to not Be

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<v Speaker 1>Kitchens since nineteen thirty nine and with Sydney's largest kitchen

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<v Speaker 1>showrooms and free in home design servers.

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<v Speaker 3>Simon Stephenson is in the house, don't forget. You can

1:00:47.600 --> 1:00:50.240
<v Speaker 3>see his work on his website, Simon's House dot com

1:00:50.280 --> 1:00:52.880
<v Speaker 3>dot are you. You can communicate with Simon via his

1:00:53.000 --> 1:00:55.640
<v Speaker 3>website as well, But if you want to speak to

1:00:55.720 --> 1:00:57.840
<v Speaker 3>him right now, the lines are open one three one

1:00:58.280 --> 1:01:01.360
<v Speaker 3>eight seven three one three one age seven three do

1:01:01.600 --> 1:01:04.360
<v Speaker 3>give us a call. No job too big or too small.

1:01:04.720 --> 1:01:07.600
<v Speaker 3>There's no silly ques skin here, not a one. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in Stevenson, good morning, Good morning mate, how are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm well? Lovely to see you as I was saying

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<v Speaker 3>to you off air and nor Glass advertise here. I'm

1:01:17.720 --> 1:01:21.120
<v Speaker 3>a very bad painter, but nor Glass I had to

1:01:21.200 --> 1:01:26.320
<v Speaker 3>do some timber trim and I thought I did a

1:01:26.600 --> 1:01:30.720
<v Speaker 3>half decent job. I was careful, but typically for me

1:01:30.800 --> 1:01:34.000
<v Speaker 3>that would leave a little bits aren't quite And it

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<v Speaker 3>just looks so good. And it's not me, it's the product.

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<v Speaker 3>It just saves people like me who might otherwise think

1:01:40.520 --> 1:01:43.880
<v Speaker 3>our paintings are snack yep. It Actually they're so good

1:01:44.160 --> 1:01:45.680
<v Speaker 3>that they're pretty hard to stuff them up.

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<v Speaker 11>Mate.

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<v Speaker 3>It's look.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why I love the product so much, and I've

1:01:49.920 --> 1:01:52.480
<v Speaker 4>been raving about it for years, is because not only

1:01:52.520 --> 1:01:54.920
<v Speaker 4>are they a small Australian company, but just they make

1:01:55.240 --> 1:01:59.240
<v Speaker 4>just the most amazing products, absolutely top notch. It's hard

1:01:59.280 --> 1:02:00.560
<v Speaker 4>to find these days, it really is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I use certain products from different paint companies

1:02:04.360 --> 1:02:07.000
<v Speaker 4>because they've got some good products and some really bad ones.

1:02:07.120 --> 1:02:11.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah where nor Glass, I've gone through many of their products.

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<v Speaker 4>Every one of them is second to none.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, outstanding one three, one eight seven three is

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<v Speaker 3>the number. We've got callers to get to. But before

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<v Speaker 3>we do that, let's talk about paint. Sheene. What is

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<v Speaker 3>I guess we see therese lo sheine high sheen semiglass.

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<v Speaker 3>There used to be flat when I was growing up.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't every still is. There's certainly, matt, what's the difference?

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<v Speaker 4>Look, it's really important to know the difference and use

1:02:38.400 --> 1:02:40.360
<v Speaker 4>them in the right spot. I mean, I was working

1:02:40.440 --> 1:02:43.080
<v Speaker 4>on a heritage listed house this week with a big

1:02:43.240 --> 1:02:46.640
<v Speaker 4>long hallway right and big set of doors down a

1:02:46.680 --> 1:02:48.440
<v Speaker 4>far end of the hallway which let a lot of

1:02:48.600 --> 1:02:52.240
<v Speaker 4>light shine right down that hallway. We painted the walls,

1:02:52.840 --> 1:02:55.800
<v Speaker 4>thought we're doing in lowchine to start with, because we thought, okay,

1:02:55.960 --> 1:02:58.960
<v Speaker 4>make them nice and washable, because low sheinees more washable

1:02:59.240 --> 1:03:01.880
<v Speaker 4>than a flat or even a mat, and the mats

1:03:01.880 --> 1:03:06.280
<v Speaker 4>are pretty good. But it's shown up every little tiny

1:03:06.440 --> 1:03:09.920
<v Speaker 4>hump and bumping, you know, in the walls. And without

1:03:10.080 --> 1:03:13.560
<v Speaker 4>completely skimming the entire wall and then sanding it, which

1:03:13.600 --> 1:03:16.000
<v Speaker 4>would have been a huge amount of work, we just

1:03:16.160 --> 1:03:18.560
<v Speaker 4>changed the machine level. We went to a mate finish,

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit less schene. The difference was incredible, and

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<v Speaker 4>I just thought it might be important to let people

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<v Speaker 4>know that, you know, like using that right sheen to

1:03:27.680 --> 1:03:29.920
<v Speaker 4>get the right finish you're after. So if you've got

1:03:30.200 --> 1:03:32.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, timberwork that might be just a little bit

1:03:33.040 --> 1:03:36.320
<v Speaker 4>you know, old and imperfection. Go to a semigloss. Don't

1:03:36.400 --> 1:03:39.480
<v Speaker 4>use a full gloss because you really need top notch

1:03:39.680 --> 1:03:44.640
<v Speaker 4>quality stuff when you're dealing with glosses bathrooms, make sure

1:03:44.680 --> 1:03:47.080
<v Speaker 4>you use a kitchen a bathroom paint or at least

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<v Speaker 4>a low sheene. And that's because of steam. I can't

1:03:50.400 --> 1:03:52.360
<v Speaker 4>see you the amount of times I go into bathrooms

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<v Speaker 4>they're moldy and they've been painted in a flat paint

1:03:55.600 --> 1:03:58.600
<v Speaker 4>which is porous and just going to trap all that

1:03:59.120 --> 1:04:02.200
<v Speaker 4>mold and all that, and that's why they go moldy.

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<v Speaker 3>So really important that that is such an interesting observation.

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<v Speaker 3>I think many people would say, oh, lo, sheine would

1:04:09.360 --> 1:04:11.920
<v Speaker 3>be the same as Matt or a flat finish.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously it's not absolutely not. Look you don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>really use flats on walls. Matt is really good. It's

1:04:19.760 --> 1:04:22.560
<v Speaker 4>that next step up. So there's a percentage and look,

1:04:22.680 --> 1:04:26.360
<v Speaker 4>even different paint companies will have different sheen levels and

1:04:26.440 --> 1:04:28.160
<v Speaker 4>different percentage of sheen.

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<v Speaker 3>So have a look at it when you go in.

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<v Speaker 4>Ask the question how much sheene do I get with this?

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<v Speaker 4>And you can sort of work out what's the best

1:04:34.520 --> 1:04:34.680
<v Speaker 4>for you.

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<v Speaker 3>What's eggshell?

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<v Speaker 4>Eggshell is in between the mat and then the low sheene.

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<v Speaker 4>So you think about an egg and you look at it,

1:04:44.200 --> 1:04:46.920
<v Speaker 4>you think, Okay, there's no shine there, But there is.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a little bit more of a washable thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you tell the difference when you're looking at a wall?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, Like you try to look down the edge

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<v Speaker 4>of a wall and sort of get a bit of

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<v Speaker 4>an idea of what sort of sheen level it is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>But like I say, and generally when you put lo

1:05:01.960 --> 1:05:04.680
<v Speaker 4>sheine paint on a wall or something like that, it

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<v Speaker 4>will be shinier when you first put it on. It

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<v Speaker 4>will dull down. Over a period of time, like a

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<v Speaker 4>week or two, it'll start to lose a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>of that sheen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Okay, great information. One, three, one, eight, seven, and three.

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning Ray? How can we help?

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<v Speaker 16>Hello? Good morning morning Ray. I have I had a

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<v Speaker 16>water leak underneath the kitchen sink and it's ruined all

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<v Speaker 16>the cupboards. So I want to know who do I

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<v Speaker 16>get in to try and fix that up. I don't

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<v Speaker 16>want to replace the whole kitchen. I just want to

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<v Speaker 16>fix up those bank of cupboards that have suffered from

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<v Speaker 16>the water damage.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, I don't know whether you're going to find a

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<v Speaker 4>kitchen company to do that. It's probably quite a small job.

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<v Speaker 4>A handy man might be able to. He might be

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<v Speaker 4>able to remove parts of a cupboard and then build

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<v Speaker 4>you one to match.

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<v Speaker 3>That would probably be where I would go, As.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, a good handyman it should be able to

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<v Speaker 4>do that sort of work, or a carpenter. You don't

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<v Speaker 4>need to build it, definitely not. Some of the smaller

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<v Speaker 4>kitchen companies might do it, but I think you might

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<v Speaker 4>be better off with a handyman.

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<v Speaker 3>The trouble is, I don't know if this is your issue, Ray,

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<v Speaker 3>but you're seeing even in bathroom vanities that you might

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<v Speaker 3>buy them, and they've got particle board and some water

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<v Speaker 3>gets in and all of a sudden it breaks it down.

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<v Speaker 3>What happened to you is that like that?

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<v Speaker 17>Ray? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, Yeah, So that the climbing sprung a leak and

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<v Speaker 16>it was spraying water inside the cup and I didn't

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<v Speaker 16>realize it was until the water started leaking out the

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<v Speaker 16>front of the car. And when I'm inside the whole

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<v Speaker 16>particle board or whatever it is, it's all swelled up

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<v Speaker 16>and deteriorating.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know why kitchen companies, and I know

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<v Speaker 4>there are different grades of cupboards you can get when

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<v Speaker 4>you order through a kitchen company, but I don't understand

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<v Speaker 4>why kitchen companies, especially for under sinks. Yes, don't use

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<v Speaker 4>something that's one hundred percent waterproof, you know, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>it's Doesn't it make common sense to say, right, that

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<v Speaker 4>area could spring a leak. Yeah, let's put something in

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<v Speaker 4>there that doesn't get affected by it, you know.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, a lot of rocket knock knock knock. Hey guys,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you, Ray, Paul, good morning. How can we help you? Mate?

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<v Speaker 18>Good morning, morning, Simon. Thanks, So we have My question

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<v Speaker 18>relates to a timber deck. It's a large timber deck

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<v Speaker 18>at the back of our house. It's painted, it's painted.

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<v Speaker 18>We want to change the color to a timber look.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 18>So my question is would you recommend stripping it all back,

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<v Speaker 18>which has got a problem with the paint in between

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<v Speaker 18>the timber planks, or just repainting over it to get

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<v Speaker 18>that timber look.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So when you say paint, it's a solid paint finish correct?

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<v Speaker 6>Correct?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay? And has it got nails or screws in the timber?

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<v Speaker 11>Good question it's.

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<v Speaker 19>Got screws, screws, a lot of.

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<v Speaker 4>Screws, okay, a lot of screws. Look, you can get

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<v Speaker 4>companies to come in and you know, they do floor sanding.

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<v Speaker 4>My floor sander does this and I've got him about.

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<v Speaker 3>To do a deck for me.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's big wide boards, so it's the one forty

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<v Speaker 4>wide boards and it is screwed down. Hopefully the screws

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<v Speaker 4>are below the timber, the surface of the timber, because

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<v Speaker 4>otherwise you've got to set the you know, pull the

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<v Speaker 4>screws out, put them back, you know, countersink them so

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<v Speaker 4>they go a little bit lower. But you can get

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<v Speaker 4>those decks sanded and then start to oil them again

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<v Speaker 4>if that's what you'd like to go. Just remember, if

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<v Speaker 4>you are going to oil timber, it is a constant

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<v Speaker 4>maintenance thing where paint work will last you a lot

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<v Speaker 4>longer than an oil finish, So you really need to

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<v Speaker 4>weigh up the options of that if you do want

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<v Speaker 4>to go down the paint road. I have used a

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<v Speaker 4>Cabot's deck paint, so not a Cabot's deck oil.

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<v Speaker 3>That's been really good, really good.

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<v Speaker 4>It's probably one of the best paints I've seen because

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<v Speaker 4>you've got to. You can't go using something like Dulux

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<v Speaker 4>weather Shield on a deck to because it's too soft

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<v Speaker 4>and you cannot walk on it. It's sticky, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>just it'll end up making a mess. You need something

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit harder wearing, so the cabin.

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<v Speaker 18>Seins from a cost perspective, doesn't it And also I

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<v Speaker 18>don't have to stand down the deck as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, and look, give it a really good pressure wash

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<v Speaker 4>and then you know, I think use that Cabot's deck

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<v Speaker 4>stuff down works really really well. I'm a big fan

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<v Speaker 4>of it. And pick a timber color, something that's sort

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<v Speaker 4>of natural to the bush, something that goes real well.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you'd be really happy with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Paul, best of luck. And in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>oiling a deck, you you and I have spoken about

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<v Speaker 3>it is at a water based oil, which.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, look, look there's a few out there now. I've

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<v Speaker 4>used one called Spa and Deck, which I'm a big

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<v Speaker 4>fan of. It's a water based product and you actually

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<v Speaker 4>wet the timber if it's bare timber, you wet the

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<v Speaker 4>timber first before applying the coat. So it's really crazy

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<v Speaker 4>and you can do three or four coats in one day.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's me. Yeah, it's all over it. That's me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glady come in here. Thanks to help our listeners

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<v Speaker 3>and more than occasionally me, I have to say back

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<v Speaker 3>with callers in just a sec. Now guests for Sydney

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<v Speaker 3>listeners tat airport and South Line trains from the city

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<v Speaker 3>stopping again. I'm told now Green Square, Mascot, domestic Airport

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<v Speaker 3>and International Airport. That was not happening due to urgent

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<v Speaker 3>train repairs near the domestic airport. Now we've got callers

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<v Speaker 3>to get to in times getting away. So Pam, how

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<v Speaker 3>can we help you this morning? Good morning?

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<v Speaker 4>He said, Good morning, Pam.

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<v Speaker 15>Oh, good morning guys. I've been told I need underpinning.

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<v Speaker 15>I have this crack from one end of the wall

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<v Speaker 15>in the land room. Only that one wall from one

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<v Speaker 15>end right across, not in a straight line, just coming down.

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<v Speaker 15>I did bring one place, they said, oh no, I

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<v Speaker 15>ranged someone else. They did come out. They said, yes,

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<v Speaker 15>you need underpinning. We'll send you the form. Never heard

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<v Speaker 15>from them again. Ran a few times, you know who else?

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<v Speaker 12>To me?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Pam, what area are you in?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>And Russell Lee okay, And they're all oldest homes here yeah, look,

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<v Speaker 4>can you do me a favor? Send me an email

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<v Speaker 4>if you can, Simon at Simon's House dot com dot

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<v Speaker 4>au and I'll see if I can sort this out.

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<v Speaker 3>For you and Pam. Don't hang up, kitty. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 3>to you off here to make sure you can do that.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll find a way for you to do that, so

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<v Speaker 3>don't hang up to stay right there. Gooday, Bob, Hi mate,

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<v Speaker 3>can we help it?

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<v Speaker 6>Bob. We've got a.

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<v Speaker 19>Bathroom that was painted in December twenty three and it

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<v Speaker 19>was painted with Taurman's I think a water paint specifically

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<v Speaker 19>for bathrooms. Now there's spots of mold coming in at

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<v Speaker 19>what's the best thing.

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<v Speaker 6>To coin it with?

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<v Speaker 19>That's what I'd like to know.

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<v Speaker 4>Eighty percent vinegar and twenty percent water. That will kill

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<v Speaker 4>the spores of the mold and stop it coming back.

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<v Speaker 4>So just make a mixture of that up and just

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<v Speaker 4>wash that over the walls and then leave it sit

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<v Speaker 4>for about fifteen minutes and then give it a rinse.

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<v Speaker 4>That will solve the problem completely. It'll kill those spores.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Thank you? Morning, Pat.

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<v Speaker 5>How can we assist yes, Good morning, Simon morning. Look, Hi,

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<v Speaker 5>I've got a concrete patio out the back that's got

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<v Speaker 5>cracks in it that the water seeps away through. And

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<v Speaker 5>I was wondering what I could seal it with.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, you need to paint it probably, and there is

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<v Speaker 4>a product called sports coat. Now it is a waterproof membrane,

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<v Speaker 4>but you're able to walk over it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's a really thick rubberized sort of painting and

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<v Speaker 4>they paint and they use it for like tennis courts

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<v Speaker 4>and things like that. But it'll stretch and it'll be

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<v Speaker 4>able to give you seal that. So it is something

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<v Speaker 4>you're going to have to paint in a color all right.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a company called color Maker Industries. They're the ones

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<v Speaker 4>that make it. But it's absolutely brilliant and it is walkable.

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<v Speaker 4>So you just roll roll that on the surface and

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<v Speaker 4>it'll fill up all those cracks and it'll stop water

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<v Speaker 4>getting in as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, because they're up to six millimeters wide some of them.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that's quite wid.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, That's why I was wondering there anything I could

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<v Speaker 5>put in the crack.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Well, if they're that wide, you might need something else.

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<v Speaker 4>You're probably going to need some sort of concrete filler

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<v Speaker 4>for that. Now I know that if Bunnings do carry

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<v Speaker 4>some in bottles that you can fill cracks in concrete.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's in the waterproofing section of Bunnings, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>pretty sure that the company that makes it is better

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<v Speaker 4>B E. T. T. A. I don't remember the name

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<v Speaker 4>of the product, but if you go there, it's in

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<v Speaker 4>little bottles, almost like a tomato sauce bottle with a

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<v Speaker 4>little nozzle out of it and you can just squeeze

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<v Speaker 4>that into the crack and it will fill it.

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<v Speaker 3>Excellent. That sports the best of luck, Pats.

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<v Speaker 20>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>That sports code sounds like a good product, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if you buy it in white, if they give you

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<v Speaker 3>a pink carnation, I've been waiting all day for that. Christina,

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<v Speaker 3>how can we assist Christina?

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, good morning, good morning morning, good morning.

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<v Speaker 5>This is Christina.

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<v Speaker 15>I have a problem with my windows.

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<v Speaker 7>The rubber at the bottom of the window falling through

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<v Speaker 7>from the brick work and there's a big gap. Now,

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<v Speaker 7>how do I fix that?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you talking about aluminium windows? Yes, so you'll have

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<v Speaker 4>a flashing at the bottom of the window. Is that

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<v Speaker 4>what you're talking about where it goes on to the concrete. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>so that's probably torn at the bottom. You may need

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<v Speaker 4>to try and find the brand of window. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know whether something like Clark Rubber might be able to

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<v Speaker 4>supply you with something like that, and I know that

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<v Speaker 4>the Bunnings now are carrying a big range of different

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<v Speaker 4>rubbers supplies down there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, intersection, I just.

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<v Speaker 4>Bought some from the bottom of a garage door. So

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<v Speaker 4>try Bunnings first, have a look there. They may be

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<v Speaker 4>able to replace it or go to Clark Rubber, and

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<v Speaker 4>if not, you're going to have to get a window

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<v Speaker 4>manufacturer and see what they.

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<v Speaker 3>Win up with. Yeah, Christina, best of luck. Thank you

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<v Speaker 3>so much for calling. Gee. We're being all over the

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<v Speaker 3>joint today, have great questions. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks mate.

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<v Speaker 3>Listeners. Is there a difference between cleaning vinegar and actual

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<v Speaker 3>vinegar when it comes to killing mold? Asks Matt, No,

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<v Speaker 3>not that I know of.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know whether cleaning vinegar might be a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit stronger. But the recipe I was given by a

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<v Speaker 4>mold expert many years ago was the eighty percent white

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<v Speaker 4>vinegar and twenty percent water and I've used it and

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<v Speaker 4>it works fantastic in.

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<v Speaker 3>Ten seconds or less. What treatment to a wooden outdoor

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<v Speaker 3>furniture going moldy during due to high humidity in Bunderberg.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So I would clean the surface down with a

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<v Speaker 4>timber reviver first, and then you can put oh things

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<v Speaker 4>like waxes or oils on the timber as well and

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<v Speaker 4>that'll stop it from going mold You want to stop

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<v Speaker 4>that moisture getting into the timber.

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<v Speaker 3>Simon's house dot com dot are you see you next week?

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<v Speaker 21>Across Australia, it's back to weekends with look Grant, good morning.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope you're well. Saturday today, the thirty first day

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<v Speaker 3>of May one three one eight seven three the open

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<v Speaker 3>line number. It's a little brighter in Sydney right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Not the case in Brisbane, but you know, across everything.

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<v Speaker 3>It's amazing to me with all the rain we've had

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<v Speaker 3>along the coast, it's not amazing. I learned this when

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<v Speaker 3>I was broadcasting in the bush that you know you'll

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<v Speaker 3>get some clowns say, oh I wish the rain had

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<v Speaker 3>stopped and you're sitting in a drought and we can't

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<v Speaker 3>forget that. Whilst coastal New South Wales remains wet, part

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<v Speaker 3>of Queensland and enjoying if that's what you're doing. The

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<v Speaker 3>wet today, mid north coast of New South Wales record

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<v Speaker 3>breaking falls just last week. The Department of Primary Industries

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<v Speaker 3>and New South Wales Drought Indicator Map updated this week

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<v Speaker 3>shows nineteen point three percent of New South Wales's drought affected,

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<v Speaker 3>while one point eight percent is officially in drought, with

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<v Speaker 3>the dry spell worst in the Murray and River Arena

1:17:46.600 --> 1:17:49.040
<v Speaker 3>regions where you hope you get some of this where

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<v Speaker 3>you are. Earlier on the show, I had a chat

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<v Speaker 3>to James Willis from the Telegraph who was telling us

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<v Speaker 3>about this I think really important story. There's a compliance

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<v Speaker 3>blitz that's now unraveling. This is in New South Wales

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<v Speaker 3>and it follows what the government is saying. An utter

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<v Speaker 3>mess created by former Energy Minister Matt Keane now elbows

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<v Speaker 3>Climate Zar. The Telegraph uncovered shocking examples of dangerous installations,

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<v Speaker 3>poor quality products and aggressive sales techniques, a situation one

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<v Speaker 3>expert described as pink bats two point zero. These are

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<v Speaker 3>heat pump water heaters. It's a water system that uses

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<v Speaker 3>a refrigeration cycle to extract heat from the surrounding air

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<v Speaker 3>transferred to water in a storage tank, rather than directly

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<v Speaker 3>heating the water with an electric element. The process apparently

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<v Speaker 3>is more energy efficient than traditional electric water heaters, typically

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<v Speaker 3>requiring more than sixty percent or less electricity. This refrigerant

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<v Speaker 3>cycle that absorbs heat from the air, turning it into gas.

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<v Speaker 3>Then a compressor increases the temperature and pressure of the gas.

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<v Speaker 3>The hot gas passes through a heat exchanger and that

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<v Speaker 3>transfers the heat to the water in the storage tank. See.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what that means either. I just read

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<v Speaker 3>it on a bit of paper, But didn't it sound impressive.

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<v Speaker 3>So the installation and the rush of it, and it

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<v Speaker 3>appears inferior products. Matt Kean, some of your fine us

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<v Speaker 3>work there. Well, perhaps you'll come out today and defend

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<v Speaker 3>the policy. Interesting to see what happens there on three

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<v Speaker 3>seventy three, Stephanie, what a delight to hear.

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<v Speaker 12>From you or you well, very well, a delight to

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<v Speaker 12>hear your show as always, Luke, and indeed an even

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<v Speaker 12>greater delight to hear Paul Enhance. And she just gives

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<v Speaker 12>one heart, you know, when, by golly, we need some

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<v Speaker 12>heart in this country when you look at the mob

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<v Speaker 12>leading us, and she is formidable, undiminished in her courage,

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<v Speaker 12>and a fight really for this country, nobody else, for

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<v Speaker 12>the good and decent values. She mentioned, of course, that

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<v Speaker 12>there are those in the Liberal Party, of course, who

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<v Speaker 12>would rather be shot dead than note to her, like

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<v Speaker 12>Maurice Paine and Linda Reynolds. There are a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 12>of people in the Liberal Party that come under the

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<v Speaker 12>thumb of Michael Photius and his gang. Nick Cater wrote

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<v Speaker 12>very tellingly about this in The Australian a couple of

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<v Speaker 12>weeks ago, and even more forcefully from Peter Kredlin his

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<v Speaker 12>Thursday in the Australian. You've probably read that Luke, indeed

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<v Speaker 12>the whole mission of the Photious gang, this Vengali puppet master,

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<v Speaker 12>pulling the strings of the green and left in the

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<v Speaker 12>Liberal Party. They're not labor like. This is labor heavy,

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<v Speaker 12>this mob and their main mission in life, and they've

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<v Speaker 12>succeeded to a greater or larger degree is to break

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<v Speaker 12>down and just the conservative elements of the Liberal Party.

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<v Speaker 12>And indeed, to that extent, when so many of us

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<v Speaker 12>could see the sharp lived Tanterne this lot had taken

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<v Speaker 12>a couple of years ago, we slammed the door of

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<v Speaker 12>the Liberal Party. We've gone, and Pauline should know that

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<v Speaker 12>a whole heap of is out here, all voted for you. Pauline,

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<v Speaker 12>you ever need a hand down here in this neck

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<v Speaker 12>of the words, just get in touch. We're all here

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<v Speaker 12>wishing you the very best. And as for Susan Lee

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<v Speaker 12>lie Lay, her public humiliation of one of the most

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<v Speaker 12>valuable women in this country just center non for gender price.

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<v Speaker 12>This was a public slap in the face as well

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<v Speaker 12>as Sir Jane Hume, the conservative will women of the

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<v Speaker 12>Liberal Party. Susan Lee lae Lay was telling them just

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<v Speaker 12>where to go. She was doing her sisterhood stuff for

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<v Speaker 12>Michael Fodius. So, Pauline, give us a ring, non for

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<v Speaker 12>giner price. It's the same to you.

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<v Speaker 15>We're out here.

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<v Speaker 18>Give us a call, but we're gone.

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<v Speaker 12>So I hope the Andrew Braggs and the Michael Soothius

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<v Speaker 12>is in the Liberal Party. I hope you're going to

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<v Speaker 12>enjoy the desert that you've created, because you're not coming

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<v Speaker 12>out of it anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 2>We've gone brilliant, brilliant.

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<v Speaker 3>Love that to hear your voice. Look after yourself, Stephanie,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you for calling. Wow. It leaves you in no

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<v Speaker 3>doubt about the way she thinks. Thank goodness. A bit

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<v Speaker 3>like Paulin is a straight talker. A lots of people say,

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<v Speaker 3>where Stephanie gone? Well, there she is, she's there right there.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice to hear from her again. One three one eight

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<v Speaker 3>seven three. That's the open line number here. Now this

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be really good chatting to Leaf Vannsalom

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<v Speaker 3>because there's so much going on in our economy and

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<v Speaker 3>around the place. As you know, he is from macrobusiness,

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<v Speaker 3>dot com, dot are you. It's where we go every

1:22:52.280 --> 1:22:57.280
<v Speaker 3>day for our financial and monitoring news and other matters

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<v Speaker 3>around our economy. He's also the chief Economy to the

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<v Speaker 3>NB funded mbcper. He's on the line the Treasury of

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<v Speaker 3>Common Sense lead Van Onsolin. How am I friend? Traveling?

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<v Speaker 20>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>Mate? How about you?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 9>Pretty good mate. It's a little bit cooler down here today,

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<v Speaker 9>but yeah, pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>Well I can't believe it, but there's been some discussion,

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<v Speaker 3>has there from government about East Coast gas reservation. I

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<v Speaker 3>wonder where they got that idea from. And this is extraordinary,

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<v Speaker 3>isn't it.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah yeah, I mean certainly you know that it's not

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<v Speaker 9>a slam dunk, but there are some hopeful signs here.

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<v Speaker 9>So just to recap, East Coast Australia is the only

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<v Speaker 9>gas exporting jurisdiction in the world that has no policy

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<v Speaker 9>to require gas companies to supply Australians first, and as

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<v Speaker 9>a result, East Coast Australia has the highest gas prices

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<v Speaker 9>of the world amongst gas exporting jurisdictions. Now, as we know,

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<v Speaker 9>the Coalition took a really good gas policy to the

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<v Speaker 9>federal election, a promise to implement an East Coast gas

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<v Speaker 9>reservation policy via basically imposing export levies on on contracted

1:23:58.960 --> 1:24:05.640
<v Speaker 9>gas companies. We're trying to export uncontracted, uncontracted gas rather

1:24:05.720 --> 1:24:08.400
<v Speaker 9>than supply it into the spot market domestically they would

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<v Speaker 9>they'd be slog to tacks. And the Coalition promised to

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<v Speaker 9>lower the East Coast gas price to blow ten dollars

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<v Speaker 9>a gigadel, which is currently floats around twelve twelve dollars

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<v Speaker 9>plus Now, the counterfactur of this look is that if

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<v Speaker 9>we don't reserve gas imports but East Coast Australia, despite

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<v Speaker 9>the fact that we export nearly three quarters of our gas,

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<v Speaker 9>most that goes to China, we're slated to start importing

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<v Speaker 9>gas down in the Southern States late this year or

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<v Speaker 9>early next and once we do that, the East Coast

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<v Speaker 9>gas price is going to rock it because we will

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<v Speaker 9>be paying import parity prices. So at the moment, we're

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<v Speaker 9>effectively paying export parity prices, which is the cost that

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<v Speaker 9>we charge exports less the cost of liquifying those exports

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<v Speaker 9>and then transporting it. But if we start importing it,

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<v Speaker 9>we're going to be paying the cost of liquefaction plus

1:24:56.880 --> 1:25:01.040
<v Speaker 9>transport then degap converting it back into gas. Now, just

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<v Speaker 9>to show you how good the coalition's policy was, Shell

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<v Speaker 9>Australia's chair Cecil Wake admitted during the election campaign that

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<v Speaker 9>the coalition's gas reservation policy would reduce costs and that

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<v Speaker 9>person I said that, you know, it'll potentially push more

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<v Speaker 9>supply into the market than there is demand, and when

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<v Speaker 9>that happens, it'll have the potential of driving prices even

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<v Speaker 9>lower than ten dollars a giggle. Now that's almost a

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<v Speaker 9>direct quote I'm paraphrasing, but that there is proof positive

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<v Speaker 9>that the policy was going to be good if you've

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<v Speaker 9>got one of the major energy companies going to force

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<v Speaker 9>down the cost of gas. Now, the coalition also pleased

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<v Speaker 9>to invest about a billion dollars in expanding the North

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<v Speaker 9>South Pipeline which runs some Queensland all the way down

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<v Speaker 9>of Victoria, as well as to expand storage down south.

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<v Speaker 9>And why that's important is that in the North South

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<v Speaker 9>pipeline has excess capacity most of the year, but just

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<v Speaker 9>in the cold months of winter it operates a capacity.

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<v Speaker 9>So we need to expand that and also expand storage.

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<v Speaker 9>Now it is telling. That's Resource Minister Madeline King. She

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<v Speaker 9>during the election campaign she dismissed the coalition's gas policy

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<v Speaker 9>as quote a thought bubble, right, and most of us

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<v Speaker 9>thought that meant that Labor wasn't going to do reservation

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<v Speaker 9>if they got elected. Thankfully. The AFR reported this week

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<v Speaker 9>that the Albany's government's considering imposing the East Coast Gas

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<v Speaker 9>Reservation Policy is part of its review of the country's

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<v Speaker 9>energy system.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, you know, obviously you can't believe all this stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>can you accept it's just playing it out before our

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<v Speaker 3>very own eyes.

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<v Speaker 9>That's right. Look, it's an absolute no brainer. Like the

1:26:36.680 --> 1:26:40.680
<v Speaker 9>entire manufacturing industry, that Gas Uses Association, the Energy Use Association,

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<v Speaker 9>wants gas reservation. It's incredibly important because gas also is

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<v Speaker 9>one of the marginal price that is of electricity in

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<v Speaker 9>the wholesale market. So if we've got expensive gas, electricity

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<v Speaker 9>prices go up as well because gas is used for firming.

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<v Speaker 9>So whenever there's not enough wind or solo, they're going

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<v Speaker 9>to chuck on a gas turbine to quickly fill up

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<v Speaker 9>the gap, and then that pushes up the price. Now

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<v Speaker 9>this is even more important because this week the Queensland

1:27:03.680 --> 1:27:06.679
<v Speaker 9>state government announced that it's going to open up nine

1:27:06.760 --> 1:27:10.000
<v Speaker 9>new areas of the state for gas exploration, and they

1:27:10.080 --> 1:27:12.599
<v Speaker 9>claim that by doing this they're going to increase supply

1:27:12.800 --> 1:27:17.040
<v Speaker 9>and push down prices and etc. Now, I'll say fron

1:27:17.040 --> 1:27:21.240
<v Speaker 9>that that I fully support more gas exploration and more drill,

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<v Speaker 9>baby drill, Ye, but it is largely futile if it's

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<v Speaker 9>not a company by a reservation scheme that requires a

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<v Speaker 9>significant share of that gas to be supplied domestically.

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<v Speaker 11>First.

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<v Speaker 9>And the reason why you know this won't necessarily lower prices.

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<v Speaker 9>Is because we just have to look at the last

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<v Speaker 9>ten years. So since we started exporting gas out of

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<v Speaker 9>Lansdon in twenty fifteen, we've literally doubled the volume of

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<v Speaker 9>gas the production of gas in the East Coast of Australia,

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<v Speaker 9>but we've actually supplied the domestic market with twenty five

1:27:54.439 --> 1:27:57.519
<v Speaker 9>percent less gas. That's because we've just pushed it all off,

1:27:57.880 --> 1:28:01.840
<v Speaker 9>pushed most of it off, you know, we've basically exported it, right,

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<v Speaker 9>so we've doubled the supply, but we've reduced doubled the

1:28:06.000 --> 1:28:08.280
<v Speaker 9>supply domestically, but we've actually supplied the domestic market with

1:28:08.320 --> 1:28:09.800
<v Speaker 9>twenty five percent less and as a result of a

1:28:09.920 --> 1:28:14.160
<v Speaker 9>tripling and gas process. Right, So if we if Queensland

1:28:14.200 --> 1:28:16.720
<v Speaker 9>opens up all these gas fields, yes the Queensland will

1:28:16.760 --> 1:28:20.559
<v Speaker 9>get some extra gas royalties for the state budget, which

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<v Speaker 9>is a good thing, but it's not going to necessarily

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<v Speaker 9>lower prices and it's not going to imports. If that gas,

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<v Speaker 9>at least it's a different portion of it is not

1:28:29.840 --> 1:28:33.320
<v Speaker 9>pushed into the domestic market. So this, this policy from

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<v Speaker 9>labor is absolutely essential to ensure that we do get

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<v Speaker 9>more supply. All the have to do is copy the

1:28:39.800 --> 1:28:42.879
<v Speaker 9>coalition's policy or if not, just look across the Western Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>Australia's done yeah, you know, and that was that was

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<v Speaker 3>a labor government did that. So you know, if they're

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<v Speaker 3>a bit precious about copying what the coalition proposed and

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<v Speaker 3>just you know, take a copy of what they're doing

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<v Speaker 3>in the West, because it's not it's not that difficult.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I move on to productivity growth? Because people don't

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<v Speaker 3>really know this, but in Australia, where we'd like to say,

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<v Speaker 3>how good is it? Our productivity growth has been among

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<v Speaker 3>the poorest in the advanced world, not just for three years,

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<v Speaker 3>but for the past decade. Isn't that right?

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 9>Our productivity absolutely stinks. And a whole bunch of economists,

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<v Speaker 9>including former Treasury Secretary Ken Henry this month, former RBA

1:29:25.400 --> 1:29:30.519
<v Speaker 9>Governor fel Low, there's also some other RBA economists and

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<v Speaker 9>a whole bunch of others, have all said that the

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<v Speaker 9>one of the main drivers of Australia's poor productivity is

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<v Speaker 9>that we haven't increased the nation's capital stocks. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 9>about new machinery, new tools, new infrastructure, et cetera to

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<v Speaker 9>keep up with the massive growth in the population and

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<v Speaker 9>as a result we've gotten productivity growth. Now I've used

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<v Speaker 9>this example previously just to explain this in a stylized example.

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<v Speaker 9>If you run a cafe and you've got a coffee

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<v Speaker 9>machine shared by two workers, and you can make one

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<v Speaker 9>hundred coffees. And now if you double the number workers

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<v Speaker 9>to foe, you're not going to be able to double

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<v Speaker 9>your output because you're still working off one machine. They'll

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<v Speaker 9>have to wait for each other, there's congestion, all that

1:30:07.280 --> 1:30:09.760
<v Speaker 9>sort of stuff. So you know, although you double the

1:30:09.880 --> 1:30:12.920
<v Speaker 9>number of people, you don't double your Actually your productivity

1:30:12.920 --> 1:30:15.479
<v Speaker 9>actually goes down because you can't make as many you

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<v Speaker 9>can't double the amount you need two machines.

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<v Speaker 6>It's machine.

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<v Speaker 9>So that's effectively what Australia's economy has done. We've grown

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<v Speaker 9>the population like a science experiment, eight point seven million

1:30:24.160 --> 1:30:28.680
<v Speaker 9>people this century so far, incredible, and we haven't grown infrastructure,

1:30:28.720 --> 1:30:31.640
<v Speaker 9>the amount of investment everything to go along with that,

1:30:32.360 --> 1:30:35.080
<v Speaker 9>and as a result, the capital to labor ratios what

1:30:35.160 --> 1:30:40.080
<v Speaker 9>economists call it, has been free form. And the Productivity

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<v Speaker 9>Commission released a report this week on Australias productivity and

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<v Speaker 9>actually pointed this fact out and it said that if

1:30:46.560 --> 1:30:49.800
<v Speaker 9>this low rate of investment persists, it will contribute to

1:30:49.840 --> 1:30:52.760
<v Speaker 9>longer term productivity slow down. Now, the reason why most

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<v Speaker 9>important is on Thursday, the Australian Bureau Statistics released its

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<v Speaker 9>first quarter twenty twenty five CAPEX survey. So for the

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<v Speaker 9>much quarter, and what I showed is that total volume

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<v Speaker 9>of investment into equipment, plant machinery actually fell by one

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<v Speaker 9>point three percent of the quarter. It's down by nearly

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<v Speaker 9>two percent over the year. And this comes at the

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<v Speaker 9>same time as Australias population continues to expand aggressively. And

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<v Speaker 9>all this means is that we're going to have less

1:31:17.840 --> 1:31:21.040
<v Speaker 9>capital equipment per worker because population is growing and we're

1:31:21.080 --> 1:31:22.680
<v Speaker 9>not building the capital stock to keep up with it.

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<v Speaker 9>And the long term outlooked work is very poor because

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<v Speaker 9>the federal government predicts an extra thirteen point five million

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<v Speaker 9>people come into the country in the next forty years,

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<v Speaker 9>and that's like adding another Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane currently

1:31:40.520 --> 1:31:43.080
<v Speaker 9>to Australias popular You need all the infrastructure, all the

1:31:43.120 --> 1:31:46.519
<v Speaker 9>houses that in those cities, all the energy everything, all

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<v Speaker 9>the business investment, everything, they keep up with that, and

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<v Speaker 9>I just can't see a way we're going to do it.

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<v Speaker 9>We haven't done. In the last twenty years, our protimuity

1:31:53.520 --> 1:31:56.160
<v Speaker 9>growth has suffered. So if we keep just growing the

1:31:56.200 --> 1:31:58.680
<v Speaker 9>population like the science experiment, when we can't keep up

1:31:58.720 --> 1:32:02.879
<v Speaker 9>with that, whether it's housing, infrastructure, business investment, a prodecuty,

1:32:03.000 --> 1:32:04.680
<v Speaker 9>growth is going to stink and our living stands are

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<v Speaker 9>going to stay made.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Now, each week I'm going to put to Leith's

1:32:08.600 --> 1:32:11.160
<v Speaker 3>the question do we have a clown or the week

1:32:11.240 --> 1:32:13.680
<v Speaker 3>or a champion of the week, so it can be

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<v Speaker 3>good news and bad news. And I understand this week,

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<v Speaker 3>This week, mate, you've got a clown or the week?

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<v Speaker 14>Do you?

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<v Speaker 15>I do?

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<v Speaker 9>It's actually the Victorian government, which is which the New

1:32:30.439 --> 1:32:33.280
<v Speaker 9>Southalan and Queensland listeners will love this. So the Victoria

1:32:33.400 --> 1:32:35.479
<v Speaker 9>is basically leaching up New South Wales and Queensland. So

1:32:36.280 --> 1:32:39.320
<v Speaker 9>you know the Victorian government and I'll live in Victoria, right,

1:32:39.439 --> 1:32:41.680
<v Speaker 9>I'll be very clean and clear about that. We are

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<v Speaker 9>the most poorly run state in the country and we

1:32:44.920 --> 1:32:48.360
<v Speaker 9>have a state government that is a state that is

1:32:48.479 --> 1:32:53.080
<v Speaker 9>absolutely grounding in debt. Right, So per capita debt is

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<v Speaker 9>so much ahead of New South Wales and Queensland. So

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<v Speaker 9>per person we are twenty two thousand and nine hundred

1:33:01.120 --> 1:33:04.400
<v Speaker 9>per person in net debt versus fifteen thousand in fifteen thousand,

1:33:04.400 --> 1:33:07.479
<v Speaker 9>two hundred in New South Wales at about nine three hundred.

1:33:07.520 --> 1:33:12.719
<v Speaker 9>Queensland right and with all overfrastructure projects have been massively

1:33:12.760 --> 1:33:15.520
<v Speaker 9>over time and over budget. We've got we're drowning in bureaucrats.

1:33:15.560 --> 1:33:17.400
<v Speaker 9>They've spent heaps on all this public service and all

1:33:17.880 --> 1:33:20.759
<v Speaker 9>this rubbish. Right and the federal government has effectively bailed

1:33:20.760 --> 1:33:24.880
<v Speaker 9>out Victoria by handing it it's arded in competence, by

1:33:25.000 --> 1:33:28.360
<v Speaker 9>handed handing at seven point five billion dollars of additional

1:33:28.640 --> 1:33:31.560
<v Speaker 9>extra GST revenue over two years. I'm talking about the

1:33:31.560 --> 1:33:33.880
<v Speaker 9>current year in now and for next year where in

1:33:33.960 --> 1:33:35.679
<v Speaker 9>New South Wales is then going to receive one point

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<v Speaker 9>one billion and Queensland's actually going to lose two point

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<v Speaker 9>eight billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 9>So effectively, because the Victoria's incompetence, the federal governments effetively

1:33:44.680 --> 1:33:46.759
<v Speaker 9>give it a bailout, giving it all this GST revenue.

1:33:47.040 --> 1:33:48.760
<v Speaker 9>As a result, Victory is now going to receive a

1:33:48.840 --> 1:33:52.360
<v Speaker 9>dollar dollar and seven cents in GST for every dollar raise.

1:33:52.840 --> 1:33:55.040
<v Speaker 9>New South Wales has have fallen to eighty five cents

1:33:55.400 --> 1:34:00.920
<v Speaker 9>per dollar raise in Queensland. Queensland's sorry, Queensland's eighty five

1:34:00.960 --> 1:34:04.559
<v Speaker 9>cents in News Southwell's eighty six cents. So the reality

1:34:04.800 --> 1:34:08.759
<v Speaker 9>is that Australian taxpayers are bearing the burden of Victorian

1:34:08.800 --> 1:34:12.879
<v Speaker 9>government's financial incompetence. So we've got, you know, massively wasteful

1:34:12.920 --> 1:34:18.160
<v Speaker 9>product projects, massively drowning bureaucrats. And to make matters worth

1:34:18.840 --> 1:34:22.040
<v Speaker 9>these gas projects that Queensland has approved or is looking

1:34:22.080 --> 1:34:25.160
<v Speaker 9>to approve. As their royalty revenues go up because they're

1:34:25.479 --> 1:34:29.639
<v Speaker 9>improving gas, their gest take will go down right Whereas

1:34:29.720 --> 1:34:34.439
<v Speaker 9>Victoria has banned new gas projects, which means that we're

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<v Speaker 9>not going to get these royalties that we could have got,

1:34:36.840 --> 1:34:40.719
<v Speaker 9>but we're going to get rewarded for being for basically

1:34:40.800 --> 1:34:43.320
<v Speaker 9>stopping investment with extra GST revenue.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they've they've converted the GST revenue into a participation medal.

1:34:48.560 --> 1:34:51.320
<v Speaker 3>Everyone is a winner here, even if you're stuffed things

1:34:51.360 --> 1:34:53.760
<v Speaker 3>up royally, we'll still find a way to make you

1:34:53.800 --> 1:34:56.280
<v Speaker 3>a winner. We'll just tip into the pockets of people

1:34:56.320 --> 1:34:59.040
<v Speaker 3>in other states, and you know, then all it is

1:34:59.280 --> 1:35:01.120
<v Speaker 3>is just turned up up and you get the prize

1:35:01.200 --> 1:35:05.000
<v Speaker 3>and we cover over the cracks. It's a bloody joke, isn't.

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<v Speaker 9>It, mate, It's an absolute joke. And you know, again

1:35:07.920 --> 1:35:12.080
<v Speaker 9>the genest allocation rewards incompetence. Victoria stuffs things up, It

1:35:12.240 --> 1:35:15.240
<v Speaker 9>runs itself poorly, It blows money left, right and center.

1:35:15.479 --> 1:35:18.880
<v Speaker 9>It refuses to do new gas exploration or you know,

1:35:19.360 --> 1:35:23.320
<v Speaker 9>open up new resource, new ways to raise revenue as well,

1:35:24.120 --> 1:35:26.400
<v Speaker 9>and it gets rewarded, whereas Queensland is going to get

1:35:26.439 --> 1:35:28.760
<v Speaker 9>penalized from improving new gas fields because it's going to

1:35:28.800 --> 1:35:31.920
<v Speaker 9>get ex royalties from it. And New South Wales receives

1:35:31.960 --> 1:35:34.360
<v Speaker 9>the most migrants in the country. Right, You're the biggest

1:35:34.360 --> 1:35:37.360
<v Speaker 9>state and you need to be able to provide funding

1:35:37.439 --> 1:35:40.799
<v Speaker 9>for infrastructure services for those for the massive influxing migrants

1:35:40.840 --> 1:35:44.240
<v Speaker 9>that you have. But you've been hamstrung because effectively your

1:35:44.360 --> 1:35:46.479
<v Speaker 9>your GST take is a lot less than should be

1:35:46.880 --> 1:35:48.439
<v Speaker 9>and it's been siphoned off to Victoria.

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<v Speaker 3>Is an absolute clown clown show, right mate, Thank you

1:35:52.520 --> 1:35:56.559
<v Speaker 3>talking next week. Cheese excellent late van ontol and macro

1:35:56.720 --> 1:35:59.560
<v Speaker 3>business dot com dot you I like that clown or

1:35:59.640 --> 1:36:02.160
<v Speaker 3>champion of the week. But you're in government. Well done

1:36:02.200 --> 1:36:06.439
<v Speaker 3>our initial our inaugural clown. It's coming up to twenty

1:36:06.479 --> 1:36:09.559
<v Speaker 3>six after eleven o'clock twenty nine to two mid date

1:36:09.760 --> 1:36:12.479
<v Speaker 3>is well. We've been spoiled with rugby league through the

1:36:12.520 --> 1:36:17.120
<v Speaker 3>week of course, with both origins. How good was Wednesday night? Sorry?

1:36:18.640 --> 1:36:21.439
<v Speaker 3>But four BC listeners, how good was Thursday night? Sea

1:36:21.520 --> 1:36:24.320
<v Speaker 3>did that? And there's plenty of footy happening today and

1:36:24.360 --> 1:36:26.960
<v Speaker 3>across the weekend, and some Group one racing as well

1:36:27.000 --> 1:36:30.320
<v Speaker 3>in Queensland with the Kingswood Smith Cup. I think that's

1:36:30.360 --> 1:36:32.560
<v Speaker 3>on today, So let's have a look at all the

1:36:32.680 --> 1:36:36.960
<v Speaker 3>market action. Glen Moundseay from Ladbrokes, who's on the line Monday.

1:36:37.000 --> 1:36:38.599
<v Speaker 3>Are you doing very good?

1:36:38.680 --> 1:36:40.760
<v Speaker 20>Thank you? Look you've got a job in diplomacy there

1:36:40.800 --> 1:36:43.760
<v Speaker 20>after that's you know what you know what that's called

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<v Speaker 20>what it's called each way betting.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, Yes, that's right.

1:36:47.520 --> 1:36:49.520
<v Speaker 20>You're applicated both sides.

1:36:49.240 --> 1:36:51.559
<v Speaker 9>Of the argument there, very very nicely.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you mate, the storm clear favorite day and tagging

1:36:54.960 --> 1:36:55.639
<v Speaker 3>on the Titans.

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<v Speaker 20>Yeah, that'll be our first game in this afternoon. From

1:36:59.160 --> 1:37:02.040
<v Speaker 20>Rablina clock where the Gold Coast they're on the drift

1:37:02.160 --> 1:37:05.080
<v Speaker 20>three seventy out to four dollars and twenty five cents.

1:37:05.479 --> 1:37:08.559
<v Speaker 20>Melbourne firming up now. Harry Grant and Correo's are out

1:37:08.920 --> 1:37:11.080
<v Speaker 20>of the side from Origin on Wednesday night. They're one

1:37:11.160 --> 1:37:14.400
<v Speaker 20>twenty eight into one twenty two. We've got a thirteen

1:37:14.479 --> 1:37:16.960
<v Speaker 20>and a half point line and the over under at

1:37:17.000 --> 1:37:19.519
<v Speaker 20>fifty one and a half. Melbourne have won the last

1:37:20.320 --> 1:37:23.080
<v Speaker 20>nineteen of the last twenty three matches against the Gold

1:37:23.160 --> 1:37:26.240
<v Speaker 20>Coast and both sides are in average form at the moment,

1:37:26.280 --> 1:37:28.160
<v Speaker 20>the Gold Coast only winning one of their last five

1:37:28.280 --> 1:37:31.360
<v Speaker 20>matches and Melbourne have only won two of their last five,

1:37:31.680 --> 1:37:33.519
<v Speaker 20>which is a rarity for the Melbourne Storm.

1:37:33.600 --> 1:37:35.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're not wrong. What about the Cowboys and the

1:37:35.960 --> 1:37:36.639
<v Speaker 3>Tigers mate?

1:37:37.280 --> 1:37:39.519
<v Speaker 20>Yeah, that's up at tenns Mill at five thirty where

1:37:39.560 --> 1:37:43.120
<v Speaker 20>the Cowboys into one p thirty six from one forty two.

1:37:43.560 --> 1:37:46.000
<v Speaker 20>The West Tiger's no Lockey Galvan, he's gone to the Dogs.

1:37:46.080 --> 1:37:49.080
<v Speaker 20>They're two ninety five out the three ten nine and

1:37:49.120 --> 1:37:51.320
<v Speaker 20>a half the line, they're forty nine and a half

1:37:51.439 --> 1:37:54.679
<v Speaker 20>the over under now. Sixteen of the last thirty seven

1:37:54.800 --> 1:37:58.040
<v Speaker 20>matches between the last two sides there's been fifty.

1:37:57.760 --> 1:37:59.800
<v Speaker 9>Points or more scored in the match.

1:38:00.000 --> 1:38:02.040
<v Speaker 20>I expect plenty of points in that match.

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<v Speaker 3>This afternoon at five absolutely and then Manly they're at

1:38:05.760 --> 1:38:06.760
<v Speaker 3>home to the Broncos.

1:38:07.479 --> 1:38:09.120
<v Speaker 20>Well, what about this. This is the first time that

1:38:09.240 --> 1:38:12.120
<v Speaker 20>Brisbane have been to Four Pines or Brookvale over in

1:38:12.200 --> 1:38:14.200
<v Speaker 20>eleven years. The last time they went there the bus

1:38:14.320 --> 1:38:20.599
<v Speaker 20>driver used at Gregory's. Now they'reeen Manly. Brisbane are one

1:38:20.680 --> 1:38:24.040
<v Speaker 20>dollar seventy favorites three and a half the line there

1:38:24.080 --> 1:38:26.559
<v Speaker 20>to the home side Manly. Now they've lost their last

1:38:26.640 --> 1:38:30.080
<v Speaker 20>three at home Manly. But the last time Brisbane albert

1:38:30.120 --> 1:38:31.880
<v Speaker 20>they haven't been there in eleven years. The last time

1:38:31.920 --> 1:38:34.320
<v Speaker 20>they've won at Brookie was back in two thy and

1:38:34.520 --> 1:38:37.679
<v Speaker 20>ten and they've lost five of their last six overall,

1:38:37.760 --> 1:38:41.040
<v Speaker 20>brisbanees a tidy there for seven point thirty tonight.

1:38:41.400 --> 1:38:45.000
<v Speaker 3>Now tomorrow your bunnies they've got the Warriors, haven't they.

1:38:45.600 --> 1:38:46.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 20>At a Corps homebush two o'clock. Wayne Bennett's nine hundred

1:38:51.280 --> 1:38:55.000
<v Speaker 20>and fiftieth match in rugby league as a coach, which

1:38:55.080 --> 1:38:55.599
<v Speaker 20>is nearly.

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<v Speaker 9>As many shows as you have done.

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<v Speaker 20>Yes, South, they're two five out to two twenty our

1:39:00.240 --> 1:39:02.679
<v Speaker 20>doubts over Latrell Mitchell. He was spotted with a nice

1:39:03.040 --> 1:39:05.439
<v Speaker 20>pack on his knee after origin on Wednesday night, so

1:39:05.760 --> 1:39:08.000
<v Speaker 20>that market is going to be very, very heavily influenced

1:39:08.000 --> 1:39:10.160
<v Speaker 20>whether Latrell Mitchell plays or not. But they're out to

1:39:10.200 --> 1:39:13.360
<v Speaker 20>two twenty Souths the Warriors one seventy into one sixty

1:39:13.400 --> 1:39:15.599
<v Speaker 20>eight two and a half the line to South's forty

1:39:15.640 --> 1:39:18.040
<v Speaker 20>four and a half the over under Then at five

1:39:18.200 --> 1:39:21.559
<v Speaker 20>past four at Combank Well, both sides are sharing Combat

1:39:21.640 --> 1:39:24.639
<v Speaker 20>Stadium this year and who would have thought that it's

1:39:24.720 --> 1:39:29.720
<v Speaker 20>the seventeenth placed Penrith up against the fifteenth placed Paramatta

1:39:30.160 --> 1:39:33.280
<v Speaker 20>and Penrith are one sixty favorites Paramatter at two thirty

1:39:33.360 --> 1:39:35.479
<v Speaker 20>five four and a half the line in that one,

1:39:35.840 --> 1:39:37.800
<v Speaker 20>and then the tightest match of the round comes at

1:39:37.840 --> 1:39:41.439
<v Speaker 20>six fifteen tomorrow night at Alion's where the Roosters are

1:39:41.600 --> 1:39:45.920
<v Speaker 20>outsiders two dollars outsiders Canbra, who technically are on top

1:39:46.000 --> 1:39:48.160
<v Speaker 20>of the comp because they haven't had a buy yet

1:39:48.760 --> 1:39:52.240
<v Speaker 20>and the Dogs, for example, have had two the Dolphin

1:39:52.360 --> 1:39:54.320
<v Speaker 20>and they've got the buy this week, that's their second buy.

1:39:54.439 --> 1:39:58.000
<v Speaker 20>Now Canbra haven't had a buy so far, so technically

1:39:58.040 --> 1:39:59.599
<v Speaker 20>they are on top of the comp. They're one eighty

1:39:59.640 --> 1:40:01.760
<v Speaker 20>two favorites one and a half the line of the

1:40:01.880 --> 1:40:04.679
<v Speaker 20>Chuckster's there forty seven and a half the over Runder

1:40:05.000 --> 1:40:09.000
<v Speaker 20>Melbourne Premiership favorite to two to eighty over Canterbory at

1:40:09.000 --> 1:40:11.560
<v Speaker 20>four fifty, Cronulla at eight, Camber at eleven, and the

1:40:11.640 --> 1:40:14.880
<v Speaker 20>market's up already on origin for June eighteen at Alpta

1:40:14.960 --> 1:40:18.439
<v Speaker 20>Stadium in Perth, the Blues one forty six, Queensland two

1:40:18.479 --> 1:40:20.880
<v Speaker 20>to seventy five and six and a half the line

1:40:20.920 --> 1:40:23.519
<v Speaker 20>there you'll catch all of the rugby league action with

1:40:23.680 --> 1:40:26.200
<v Speaker 20>a team of reprobates that won't be too far from

1:40:26.280 --> 1:40:29.960
<v Speaker 20>you where you're sitting in the in the interactive studio

1:40:30.120 --> 1:40:33.080
<v Speaker 20>this afternoon for all the fanfare, fun and frivolity, with

1:40:33.160 --> 1:40:34.120
<v Speaker 20>the continuous call to.

1:40:34.280 --> 1:40:38.479
<v Speaker 3>Indeed mate well said and Group one racing in Queensland today,

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<v Speaker 3>Can you give us an idea of the action there?

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<v Speaker 3>There is something. I'm sure there's plenty.

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<v Speaker 20>Yeah, be very very careful at the moment. Now the

1:40:45.640 --> 1:40:48.479
<v Speaker 20>rains arrived in Brisbane. They started on a soft six,

1:40:48.560 --> 1:40:50.920
<v Speaker 20>it's already been downgraded to a soft seven and it

1:40:51.080 --> 1:40:52.080
<v Speaker 20>is raining today.

1:40:52.680 --> 1:40:55.439
<v Speaker 2>So we've got the Ladbrokes.

1:40:54.960 --> 1:40:58.280
<v Speaker 20>Queensland Derby where Statuario is the favorite there. It was

1:40:58.360 --> 1:41:00.400
<v Speaker 20>runner up in the South Australian Derby, the Group one

1:41:00.520 --> 1:41:03.800
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<v Speaker 20>of that racing action from Eagle Farm nowhere near as

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<v Speaker 3>Beautifully done. Thank you Glenn. Talk to you soon, mate,

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<v Speaker 3>right o w in a couple of hours you take

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<v Speaker 3>Now we'll get to Ali stoles at domain in just

1:41:57.920 --> 1:42:00.400
<v Speaker 3>a moment. But a couple of notes through from from

1:42:00.520 --> 1:42:03.640
<v Speaker 3>police in Queensland that I haven't got to yet. A

1:42:03.720 --> 1:42:07.360
<v Speaker 3>man has died following a single vehicle traffic crash in

1:42:07.600 --> 1:42:10.600
<v Speaker 3>rows Neath at Townsville in the early hours of this

1:42:10.760 --> 1:42:15.200
<v Speaker 3>morning one am. An electric screuter crashed on the Flinders Highway.

1:42:15.680 --> 1:42:19.599
<v Speaker 3>Eighteen year old rider subbured significant injuries as a result

1:42:19.680 --> 1:42:23.240
<v Speaker 3>of the crash. Transport at a hospital critical condition. He

1:42:23.400 --> 1:42:27.439
<v Speaker 3>since died. The forensic crash Unit is investigating. If you

1:42:27.479 --> 1:42:31.960
<v Speaker 3>can assist, police would love to hear from you. A

1:42:32.080 --> 1:42:35.000
<v Speaker 3>man will appear before court today. This is in Sydney

1:42:35.200 --> 1:42:42.200
<v Speaker 3>with allegedly graffitiing multiple Nazi swastikers and attempting to assault

1:42:42.240 --> 1:42:45.880
<v Speaker 3>a police officer in Sydney's West yesterday about three pm.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a unit block on Darby Street, Penrith opposite

1:42:50.040 --> 1:42:54.519
<v Speaker 3>attached to Nepeine Police Area Command located. When they arrived,

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<v Speaker 3>several Nazi swastikas and offensive phrases graffeited on footpaths, on

1:43:00.360 --> 1:43:04.000
<v Speaker 3>fences and car spaces near the unit block. Police are

1:43:04.040 --> 1:43:06.960
<v Speaker 3>arrested a fifty one year old man in the unit block.

1:43:07.400 --> 1:43:10.479
<v Speaker 3>He was off to the police station. He allegedly attempted

1:43:10.520 --> 1:43:15.960
<v Speaker 3>to assault an overser multiple times before being restrained. He's

1:43:16.040 --> 1:43:18.559
<v Speaker 3>off to paramount a local court today and we'll update

1:43:19.560 --> 1:43:22.040
<v Speaker 3>you on how he fared when we get some information.

1:43:26.520 --> 1:43:30.320
<v Speaker 21>And now the real estate show thanks to Domain, Australia's

1:43:30.400 --> 1:43:32.000
<v Speaker 21>trusted property marketplace.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's time now to find out what's happening on

1:43:34.400 --> 1:43:36.800
<v Speaker 3>the property market in Sydney and Brisbane thanks to our

1:43:36.880 --> 1:43:40.799
<v Speaker 3>mates at Domain. I'm pleased to say that the national

1:43:40.880 --> 1:43:44.840
<v Speaker 3>property editor at Domain, Alice Stoles, is on the line

1:43:44.880 --> 1:43:47.679
<v Speaker 3>and joins me again this weekend.

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<v Speaker 22>Hi, Alis, good morning, Great to be with you.

1:43:51.080 --> 1:43:54.000
<v Speaker 3>I hope things are good with you. Let's kick off

1:43:54.160 --> 1:43:56.519
<v Speaker 3>with where we normally do with the auction numbers and

1:43:56.920 --> 1:43:58.040
<v Speaker 3>how are they looking today?

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<v Speaker 23>Things are good, Luke, and Sydney buyers have a lot

1:44:02.240 --> 1:44:05.360
<v Speaker 23>of choice today. Nine hundred and sixty five houses are

1:44:05.400 --> 1:44:07.679
<v Speaker 23>going under the hammer and this is the biggest weekend

1:44:08.120 --> 1:44:12.000
<v Speaker 23>Sydney's had this month, so pretty pretty spoiled for choice.

1:44:12.000 --> 1:44:15.240
<v Speaker 23>I guess we could say Brisbane had a bit of

1:44:15.280 --> 1:44:17.920
<v Speaker 23>a drop in auction numbers. That's down to seventy four

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<v Speaker 23>auctions going under the hammer today, so probably better conditions

1:44:21.400 --> 1:44:22.080
<v Speaker 23>for sellers.

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<v Speaker 22>Dare I say that there's not as much choice that

1:44:24.320 --> 1:44:25.120
<v Speaker 22>buyers kind of.

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<v Speaker 23>Get corraled into buying whatever's on the market today.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds like, yeah, so how do we end up here?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I think you might have even flagged this last week,

1:44:36.280 --> 1:44:39.400
<v Speaker 3>big numbers in Sydney not so in Brisbane. I mean

1:44:39.439 --> 1:44:42.519
<v Speaker 3>they're both beautiful cities in Australia. What's the difference, do

1:44:42.600 --> 1:44:42.880
<v Speaker 3>you think?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 23>Well, a lot of it's because obviously interest rates sort

1:44:47.320 --> 1:44:49.360
<v Speaker 23>of play a part in this, but these are obviously

1:44:49.439 --> 1:44:52.200
<v Speaker 23>being booked in these campaigns thatt of five six weeks ago.

1:44:52.640 --> 1:44:54.680
<v Speaker 23>And I think we know that the seasonality of the

1:44:54.720 --> 1:44:57.240
<v Speaker 23>Brisbane market is quite different from the Sydney market.

1:44:57.360 --> 1:44:58.960
<v Speaker 22>Auctions basically start the year.

1:44:59.000 --> 1:45:02.280
<v Speaker 23>They're quite quickly and quite early in January, whereas the

1:45:02.320 --> 1:45:05.439
<v Speaker 23>Sydney market a bit more Laxidasians that it takes a

1:45:05.479 --> 1:45:08.200
<v Speaker 23>while to warm up, shall we say, and auctions really

1:45:08.280 --> 1:45:09.479
<v Speaker 23>kick off there in February.

1:45:09.600 --> 1:45:11.639
<v Speaker 22>So what we find is it into the winter month.

1:45:11.720 --> 1:45:13.640
<v Speaker 23>Sydney kind of lasts a little bit longer before it

1:45:13.760 --> 1:45:16.960
<v Speaker 23>tapers down into that winter hiatus, but Brisbane's pretty much

1:45:16.960 --> 1:45:19.160
<v Speaker 23>already into that lower gear, it seems.

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<v Speaker 3>Gotcha all right? Clearance raked from last week.

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<v Speaker 23>Yeah. Well, look, Sydney had a big weekend and it

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<v Speaker 23>came in at seventy percent.

1:45:25.720 --> 1:45:27.519
<v Speaker 22>And I mean, I'm not sure if you and the

1:45:27.600 --> 1:45:28.360
<v Speaker 22>listeners looked.

1:45:28.200 --> 1:45:31.400
<v Speaker 23>Around town, but we saw lots of bitting at auction Luke,

1:45:31.479 --> 1:45:34.400
<v Speaker 23>and I really think we noticed that sort of I

1:45:34.439 --> 1:45:36.880
<v Speaker 23>guess a bit more confidence from buyers to sort of

1:45:37.000 --> 1:45:40.000
<v Speaker 23>stretch a little bit further. And I'm not talking about crazy,

1:45:40.520 --> 1:45:43.519
<v Speaker 23>crazy amounts, but I just saw quite a few options

1:45:43.560 --> 1:45:45.160
<v Speaker 23>whether that competition.

1:45:44.840 --> 1:45:46.640
<v Speaker 22>Remained very tight to the very end.

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<v Speaker 23>So I think the Sydney market seems to be responding

1:45:49.280 --> 1:45:52.800
<v Speaker 23>very well to that interest rate cut. Brisbane's clearance rate

1:45:52.840 --> 1:45:56.120
<v Speaker 23>coming at forty three percent, which was consistent week on week.

1:45:56.200 --> 1:46:00.800
<v Speaker 23>Obviously a less auction centric market, but interesting watching that

1:46:00.920 --> 1:46:03.240
<v Speaker 23>market in Brisbane just kind of get their head around

1:46:03.280 --> 1:46:05.280
<v Speaker 23>auctions a bit more, and we're seeing more and more

1:46:05.360 --> 1:46:09.320
<v Speaker 23>I guess sellers choose that method of saleh.

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<v Speaker 3>Alright, our expensive buyers from last week in Brisbane at

1:46:12.520 --> 1:46:15.040
<v Speaker 3>sunny Bank in Sydney, Elizabeth Bay.

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<v Speaker 23>Yeah, it was a home in sunny Bank that sold

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<v Speaker 23>for one point eight five million dollars in Brisbane, a

1:46:21.880 --> 1:46:24.400
<v Speaker 23>five bedroom home with a granny flat now We know

1:46:24.520 --> 1:46:26.080
<v Speaker 23>how much value granny flats add.

1:46:26.120 --> 1:46:27.400
<v Speaker 22>People love the thought of them.

1:46:27.320 --> 1:46:29.720
<v Speaker 23>Whether it's for their home office, whether they left it

1:46:29.760 --> 1:46:32.960
<v Speaker 23>out for short term accommodation or put a kid adult in,

1:46:33.080 --> 1:46:36.360
<v Speaker 23>it always strikes a lot of desirability with people.

1:46:36.479 --> 1:46:38.640
<v Speaker 22>And in Sydney it was Elizabeth Bay.

1:46:38.680 --> 1:46:41.759
<v Speaker 23>An apartment there sold for six point four five million

1:46:41.880 --> 1:46:45.160
<v Speaker 23>dollars with beautiful views over the harbor and all the

1:46:45.200 --> 1:46:48.080
<v Speaker 23>bells and whistles that one can imagine from a property

1:46:48.120 --> 1:46:50.080
<v Speaker 23>that sort of manages to get a figure like that

1:46:50.240 --> 1:46:50.960
<v Speaker 23>six point four.

1:46:50.800 --> 1:46:51.760
<v Speaker 22>To five minute not bad?

1:46:51.880 --> 1:46:55.200
<v Speaker 3>Is it not bad? Three bedrooms, had two bathrooms and

1:46:55.280 --> 1:46:57.800
<v Speaker 3>a car space and apartment Elizabeth Bay six and a

1:46:57.840 --> 1:47:00.559
<v Speaker 3>half million if you don't mind what about value there

1:47:00.640 --> 1:47:04.400
<v Speaker 3>was that seems extraordinary value at Paddington in Sydney.

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<v Speaker 22>Yeah, I love his story.

1:47:06.640 --> 1:47:09.360
<v Speaker 23>So it's a little studio flat that's sold in glen

1:47:09.520 --> 1:47:12.080
<v Speaker 23>View Street, Paddington that's sold for four hundred and seventy

1:47:12.160 --> 1:47:14.720
<v Speaker 23>nine thousand dollars. Now, as I said, it is just

1:47:14.800 --> 1:47:17.760
<v Speaker 23>a studio, so it's not even a standalone one bedroom unit.

1:47:18.240 --> 1:47:20.599
<v Speaker 23>But it does have parking on site, but you can't

1:47:20.680 --> 1:47:22.479
<v Speaker 23>let it out, so it's not attached to the title,

1:47:22.520 --> 1:47:25.040
<v Speaker 23>but there is parking for residents. And I thought, what

1:47:25.120 --> 1:47:27.400
<v Speaker 23>a wonderful story that we're on the sty sort of

1:47:27.479 --> 1:47:32.120
<v Speaker 23>second floor deco style brick apartment sold for sort of

1:47:32.160 --> 1:47:34.920
<v Speaker 23>a figure that is kind of, you know, imaginable for

1:47:35.000 --> 1:47:37.360
<v Speaker 23>some first time buys in particular, and I think it's

1:47:37.400 --> 1:47:39.479
<v Speaker 23>a good example of ways that people can get onto

1:47:39.560 --> 1:47:41.519
<v Speaker 23>the market. And maybe they won't live in that place

1:47:41.640 --> 1:47:43.880
<v Speaker 23>forever locally, they're probably going to outgrow it if they

1:47:43.920 --> 1:47:45.920
<v Speaker 23>have a family or want some more space in the future,

1:47:45.960 --> 1:47:48.000
<v Speaker 23>but it could be a good little investment for someone

1:47:48.040 --> 1:47:50.200
<v Speaker 23>to think about options like that, given it was under

1:47:50.240 --> 1:47:53.160
<v Speaker 23>five hundred thousand dollars, which is well and truly below

1:47:53.400 --> 1:47:54.680
<v Speaker 23>the meeting in Sydney.

1:47:55.439 --> 1:47:59.240
<v Speaker 3>And had Paddington on your on your business card. I

1:47:59.320 --> 1:48:01.360
<v Speaker 3>live in padding You don't have to tell them anything

1:48:01.400 --> 1:48:04.559
<v Speaker 3>else yet. You were going to tell me about Brisbane, Yeah,

1:48:04.680 --> 1:48:04.920
<v Speaker 3>it was.

1:48:05.280 --> 1:48:07.680
<v Speaker 23>We had a house I went to market in Pekember

1:48:08.040 --> 1:48:10.720
<v Speaker 23>now this five bedroom house so for seven hundred and

1:48:10.880 --> 1:48:14.439
<v Speaker 23>forty thousand dollars. So what we're really seeing is that

1:48:14.560 --> 1:48:19.000
<v Speaker 23>affordability in Brisbane that people are I guess just going

1:48:19.160 --> 1:48:21.920
<v Speaker 23>further out to get bang for their buck because really

1:48:22.200 --> 1:48:24.080
<v Speaker 23>in most of these in Australia wouldn't find a five

1:48:24.160 --> 1:48:27.360
<v Speaker 23>bedroom house for that price. So clearly people driven by

1:48:27.479 --> 1:48:30.280
<v Speaker 23>price primarily are going that little bit further out and

1:48:30.320 --> 1:48:31.880
<v Speaker 23>they're getting what they want. And in this case it

1:48:31.960 --> 1:48:35.160
<v Speaker 23>was a five bedroom, two bar, four car house for

1:48:35.240 --> 1:48:35.880
<v Speaker 23>seven hundred and.

1:48:35.880 --> 1:48:36.799
<v Speaker 22>Forty thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeez, Now tell me about Domain Sustainability and Property report,

1:48:40.479 --> 1:48:44.400
<v Speaker 3>it's revealed that energy efficient homes are not only fetching

1:48:44.479 --> 1:48:47.280
<v Speaker 3>premium prices, but and how high on the wish list.

1:48:47.360 --> 1:48:50.240
<v Speaker 3>I guess the cost of living is so crippling for

1:48:50.360 --> 1:48:52.320
<v Speaker 3>many that if you can get a place where you

1:48:52.400 --> 1:48:54.920
<v Speaker 3>don't have to spend almost a mortgagey payment on your

1:48:54.960 --> 1:48:56.639
<v Speaker 3>power bills, then it's a big tick.

1:48:57.960 --> 1:48:59.880
<v Speaker 23>Yes, I think energy efficient homes are sort of the

1:49:00.040 --> 1:49:02.160
<v Speaker 23>if that keeps on giving in that you can reduce

1:49:02.200 --> 1:49:04.560
<v Speaker 23>your power bills. But what we are also seeing in

1:49:04.640 --> 1:49:06.479
<v Speaker 23>the data is that when it comes to selling it,

1:49:06.600 --> 1:49:09.839
<v Speaker 23>you will make a premium on it. In Sydney alone,

1:49:10.280 --> 1:49:12.920
<v Speaker 23>energy efficient houses so for twelve and a half percent

1:49:13.000 --> 1:49:15.519
<v Speaker 23>on average more than non energy efficient homes, and that's

1:49:15.560 --> 1:49:18.960
<v Speaker 23>around one hundred and eighty thousand dollars extra. Now in Brisbane,

1:49:19.000 --> 1:49:22.679
<v Speaker 23>it wasn't as extreme as that they're selling for fourteen

1:49:22.720 --> 1:49:24.720
<v Speaker 23>point one percent more one hundred and twenty k more

1:49:25.080 --> 1:49:27.960
<v Speaker 23>than non energy efficient houses. But what we're seeing is

1:49:28.040 --> 1:49:30.920
<v Speaker 23>I think this, you know, what did appear a very

1:49:31.080 --> 1:49:35.720
<v Speaker 23>niche thing, sustainable housing and energy efficiency. And remember when

1:49:35.760 --> 1:49:39.479
<v Speaker 23>solar panels were kind of rare and now increasingly becoming

1:49:40.680 --> 1:49:43.600
<v Speaker 23>sort of a compulsory feature for many people when it

1:49:43.640 --> 1:49:45.680
<v Speaker 23>comes to buying their house, and they want it for

1:49:45.760 --> 1:49:47.400
<v Speaker 23>the saving that they get through those energy bills, and

1:49:47.439 --> 1:49:50.080
<v Speaker 23>they're also wanting i think, to obviously help the planet,

1:49:50.479 --> 1:49:52.559
<v Speaker 23>but also knowing they're going to make that money back

1:49:52.600 --> 1:49:54.920
<v Speaker 23>when it comes time to selling. So you know, for

1:49:55.000 --> 1:49:57.160
<v Speaker 23>a lot of people, it is that initial outcost of

1:49:57.800 --> 1:50:01.360
<v Speaker 23>whether it's double glazing the windows, you know, changing the

1:50:01.360 --> 1:50:03.479
<v Speaker 23>orientation of a house when you're designing it, if you

1:50:03.520 --> 1:50:05.640
<v Speaker 23>are doing it from scratch to have a northern orientation,

1:50:06.439 --> 1:50:09.920
<v Speaker 23>making really energy efficient heating choices, they can obviously cost

1:50:10.040 --> 1:50:12.760
<v Speaker 23>more in the beginning, but it seems the rewards are

1:50:12.920 --> 1:50:15.720
<v Speaker 23>well and truly being met as the house grows in

1:50:15.800 --> 1:50:16.639
<v Speaker 23>value down the track.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we can buy an island. Is that what you're suggesting?

1:50:20.880 --> 1:50:22.400
<v Speaker 23>I mean, how often do I get to say that

1:50:22.960 --> 1:50:26.280
<v Speaker 23>there is an island for sale off Northern Queensland. It's

1:50:26.320 --> 1:50:30.160
<v Speaker 23>three k's off Cape Palmerson National Park, which is sixty

1:50:30.240 --> 1:50:32.920
<v Speaker 23>k southeast of Mackay. Now, this is a forty nine

1:50:32.960 --> 1:50:35.280
<v Speaker 23>point seven hectare island, and on this island is a

1:50:35.320 --> 1:50:38.360
<v Speaker 23>three bedroom house. Now the house is owned by two

1:50:38.479 --> 1:50:41.200
<v Speaker 23>families and one of the families are selling out their

1:50:41.280 --> 1:50:44.880
<v Speaker 23>share and with that house you get the island. It's

1:50:45.040 --> 1:50:47.920
<v Speaker 23>quite extraordinary. And this is the only house on the island,

1:50:48.920 --> 1:50:51.240
<v Speaker 23>and it's got a little air strip so you can

1:50:51.320 --> 1:50:53.400
<v Speaker 23>ride it on your own little private private plane if

1:50:53.439 --> 1:50:55.800
<v Speaker 23>you don't mind, or a ten minute boat. A ten

1:50:55.840 --> 1:50:58.960
<v Speaker 23>minute boat trip from the coast. Now, this is apparently

1:50:59.000 --> 1:51:03.200
<v Speaker 23>absolutely spectacular. You can go snort cling around those beautiful waters,

1:51:03.600 --> 1:51:07.480
<v Speaker 23>the coral reefs are there, and just and pristine bushland

1:51:07.520 --> 1:51:08.120
<v Speaker 23>to explore.

1:51:08.400 --> 1:51:11.400
<v Speaker 22>But it's on the market for six hundred thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 23>Oh wow, I just think I'm sort of watching if

1:51:14.880 --> 1:51:17.200
<v Speaker 23>other than media around the world picked this story up, because,

1:51:17.200 --> 1:51:19.639
<v Speaker 23>as someone mentioned, it's the fraction of a car. It's

1:51:19.680 --> 1:51:21.759
<v Speaker 23>basically what you pay for a parking spot in Sydney.

1:51:21.840 --> 1:51:25.880
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes, yes, you can do you know if uber eads deliver?

1:51:27.280 --> 1:51:29.320
<v Speaker 23>I don't know, But funny you should ask that, Luke,

1:51:29.360 --> 1:51:31.240
<v Speaker 23>because I had to laugh at the listing. It's said

1:51:31.280 --> 1:51:33.840
<v Speaker 23>that the island does have coverage for Optus and tell

1:51:33.880 --> 1:51:36.320
<v Speaker 23>us your mobile phones, and I just thought that's such

1:51:36.360 --> 1:51:39.040
<v Speaker 23>a sign of the times, isn't it could be stuck

1:51:39.080 --> 1:51:40.320
<v Speaker 23>with you Uber eats or a door dash.

1:51:40.320 --> 1:51:41.840
<v Speaker 22>I'm not sure you're going to get milk delivered on

1:51:41.880 --> 1:51:42.479
<v Speaker 22>your doorsteps.

1:51:43.040 --> 1:51:45.360
<v Speaker 23>I think I think you have a lot of probably

1:51:45.680 --> 1:51:48.559
<v Speaker 23>fishing to do, and you know, a lot of seafood

1:51:48.600 --> 1:51:50.800
<v Speaker 23>to live off. Pretty happy there, I don't think you'd be.

1:51:51.000 --> 1:51:53.000
<v Speaker 23>I don't think you'd be many complaints coming from you

1:51:53.080 --> 1:51:53.720
<v Speaker 23>on a place like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're right. I think you're right. How wonderful

1:51:56.280 --> 1:51:58.240
<v Speaker 3>is that? All right? We'll take a break back with

1:51:58.360 --> 1:52:02.040
<v Speaker 3>more from Alison just today, and we are joined by

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<v Speaker 3>Alice Stoles from Domain, the National Property editor. Alice the

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<v Speaker 3>rise of prefab homes. This is interesting, isn't it? Could

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<v Speaker 3>prefab homes be a large solution to our large housing crisis?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 12>Look?

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<v Speaker 22>Look, I'm a real.

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<v Speaker 23>Fan of this notion of prefab homes and it's because

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<v Speaker 23>Basically they can deliver houses much faster than the traditional

1:52:26.000 --> 1:52:29.400
<v Speaker 23>methods of construction, which we know we've experienced over the

1:52:29.439 --> 1:52:33.240
<v Speaker 23>past few years in particular incredible challenges around that. It

1:52:33.360 --> 1:52:36.280
<v Speaker 23>also means that there's no delays attributed to weather because

1:52:36.360 --> 1:52:38.600
<v Speaker 23>basically all the hard worker building the home is on

1:52:38.720 --> 1:52:41.920
<v Speaker 23>in a factory, then that house sort of slubs of

1:52:41.960 --> 1:52:44.479
<v Speaker 23>it are put on trucks and trucks around the country.

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<v Speaker 23>Now the benefit is homeowners can also have bespoke called

1:52:48.800 --> 1:52:52.479
<v Speaker 23>truly sort of custom designed houses and have kind of

1:52:52.560 --> 1:52:56.280
<v Speaker 23>quite clever and ingenious design and have that individuality to

1:52:56.360 --> 1:52:59.879
<v Speaker 23>a house that often people obviously enjoy, particularly in Australia,

1:53:00.360 --> 1:53:03.599
<v Speaker 23>and do all that in record time. Now it also

1:53:03.920 --> 1:53:07.000
<v Speaker 23>usually can come in at a cheaper cost because materials

1:53:07.040 --> 1:53:10.479
<v Speaker 23>are used so much more effectively, there's no wastage, and

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<v Speaker 23>there's also no delays to weather, but just in terms

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<v Speaker 23>of how quickly they arrive. I was reading an article

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<v Speaker 23>and I always laugh at this, and I've seen it

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<v Speaker 23>happen myself. But literally you'll see a neighbor will go

1:53:22.720 --> 1:53:25.559
<v Speaker 23>off to work as a blank piece of land, they

1:53:25.640 --> 1:53:28.240
<v Speaker 23>come back and there's a house on it. Now, all

1:53:28.280 --> 1:53:30.600
<v Speaker 23>the groundwork has been done for months prior. I'm not

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<v Speaker 23>saying it just click your fingers and it's delivered that evening.

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<v Speaker 23>But that's how quickly it's construction constructed on site because

1:53:37.160 --> 1:53:39.040
<v Speaker 23>everything is done off site and then it's literally just

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<v Speaker 23>trucked in and ascendble and it's basically almost ready to

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<v Speaker 23>go at that point.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's amazing. Now Properties of interest which I haven't

1:53:47.400 --> 1:53:50.360
<v Speaker 3>have time for, I'm sorry, one at North Bridge and

1:53:50.560 --> 1:53:54.320
<v Speaker 3>one at Cadanga Creek in Queensland. In Queensland, it's an

1:53:54.680 --> 1:53:58.479
<v Speaker 3>a better if you don't mind, will put links to

1:53:58.800 --> 1:54:04.440
<v Speaker 3>the on the podcast. To those listings. There's three living spaces,

1:54:04.960 --> 1:54:08.679
<v Speaker 3>eight bedrooms, the one in queensand properties of Interest. Thanks Alice,

1:54:08.720 --> 1:54:11.240
<v Speaker 3>I'll talk to you next week. That's Alice Stoles from

1:54:11.280 --> 1:54:14.479
<v Speaker 3>Domain News coming up. I will get to Craig Bennett

1:54:14.520 --> 1:54:16.920
<v Speaker 3>after the News. I know because I saw a video

1:54:17.000 --> 1:54:21.320
<v Speaker 3>of him interviewing Loretta Switt hot Lips Hulahan from Mash

1:54:22.000 --> 1:54:24.280
<v Speaker 3>who very sadly has passed away of a night, so

1:54:24.320 --> 1:54:27.120
<v Speaker 3>ill asking him about that. He will also run his

1:54:27.520 --> 1:54:32.400
<v Speaker 3>eye over Clint Eastwood when we get Starstruck with Craig

1:54:32.520 --> 1:54:34.400
<v Speaker 3>in the next hour catch up with Mark Levy. I

1:54:34.480 --> 1:54:38.880
<v Speaker 3>see voicing commercials in the next studio preview the footy

1:54:39.000 --> 1:54:41.600
<v Speaker 3>later on today. All that ahead, it's almost midday.

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<v Speaker 21>Low Cross Australia. It's back to weekends with little grand.

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<v Speaker 3>Good afternoon, hope you're well. Nice to be with you

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<v Speaker 3>on this Saturday afternoon, thirty first day of May today,

1:55:10.320 --> 1:55:14.360
<v Speaker 3>winter tomorrow and plenty of rugby league action. The boys

1:55:14.400 --> 1:55:16.480
<v Speaker 3>will be here, well I shouldn't say boys, of course.

1:55:16.800 --> 1:55:20.760
<v Speaker 3>Alana Ferguson's in with the team today, or Fergo as

1:55:20.800 --> 1:55:23.320
<v Speaker 3>they refer to her. I think it's fantastic doing the

1:55:23.360 --> 1:55:26.480
<v Speaker 3>commentary for the women's origin through the week. Anyway, they'll

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<v Speaker 3>be here with with Mark Marky, Mark Mark Leaby's here.

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<v Speaker 3>The big man is here? Is Galin today? No gal today?

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<v Speaker 3>I know you gave me a bit of paper with

1:55:38.360 --> 1:55:41.440
<v Speaker 3>everything that's happening when I put that somewhere? Where did

1:55:41.520 --> 1:55:44.160
<v Speaker 3>I put that? Not like me to lose a bit

1:55:44.240 --> 1:55:48.960
<v Speaker 3>of paper right? Seven three is the number. Craig Bennett

1:55:48.960 --> 1:55:54.720
<v Speaker 3>coming up shortly here. Supermarkets they're saying should be banned

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<v Speaker 3>from selling cigarettes. According to the Lung Foundation of Australia,

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<v Speaker 3>No Tobacco Day today. The Foundation has floated the ban

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<v Speaker 3>as a means to stop smokers being tempted to buy

1:56:06.640 --> 1:56:12.280
<v Speaker 3>a pack or a pouch alongside their groceries. Well, I

1:56:12.320 --> 1:56:17.880
<v Speaker 3>don't give anyone ideas, I really don't, but I think

1:56:17.960 --> 1:56:20.360
<v Speaker 3>that I think the horse has bolted to some extent

1:56:20.480 --> 1:56:24.480
<v Speaker 3>because the supermarkets, from what I'm told, and I have

1:56:24.600 --> 1:56:27.920
<v Speaker 3>no experience here, but the supermarkets is where you buy

1:56:28.760 --> 1:56:33.160
<v Speaker 3>the full price cigarettes, and it's elsewhere where many people

1:56:33.280 --> 1:56:37.240
<v Speaker 3>buy the much cheaper cigarettes. So banning them in a

1:56:37.680 --> 1:56:42.920
<v Speaker 3>supermarket introduces more people to cheaper cigarettes, if you know.

1:56:43.040 --> 1:56:45.040
<v Speaker 3>It just appears to me that that would be the

1:56:45.120 --> 1:56:48.080
<v Speaker 3>logic in that. I mean, there's got to be noise

1:56:48.160 --> 1:56:50.520
<v Speaker 3>or no tobacco day. I understand that, and I am

1:56:50.560 --> 1:56:53.880
<v Speaker 3>making it clear that what if you do don't smoke,

1:56:53.960 --> 1:56:58.160
<v Speaker 3>But I mean that's the again, the lived experience. Yeah,

1:56:58.240 --> 1:57:04.800
<v Speaker 3>galleys in Gal big Man and Mark Levy after one o'clock.

1:57:04.840 --> 1:57:07.160
<v Speaker 3>We'll have a chat to Mark before we before we

1:57:07.280 --> 1:57:11.240
<v Speaker 3>go today. Three one eight seven three is our open

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<v Speaker 3>line number. Anthony Albanese's twenty thirty target to reduce emissions

1:57:17.000 --> 1:57:19.400
<v Speaker 3>is on life support, we're told after a new data

1:57:19.480 --> 1:57:25.400
<v Speaker 3>showed Australian's carbon footprints rose slightly last year, driven by

1:57:25.440 --> 1:57:29.120
<v Speaker 3>a two point two percent increase in the electricity sector.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I heard something through the week. I don't

1:57:31.480 --> 1:57:35.640
<v Speaker 3>know if I heard it on TV or radio or Reddit. Summer.

1:57:35.720 --> 1:57:38.320
<v Speaker 3>This is how bad my memory is becoming. Late in

1:57:38.400 --> 1:57:42.920
<v Speaker 3>the show, early on, it's magnificent that if we stopped,

1:57:43.280 --> 1:57:47.480
<v Speaker 3>if we stopped all our CO two emissions, if we

1:57:47.560 --> 1:57:53.960
<v Speaker 3>stopped them all, it would take China sixteen days to

1:57:54.120 --> 1:57:56.960
<v Speaker 3>produce the same in a year. So we stopped the

1:57:57.120 --> 1:58:01.040
<v Speaker 3>year's emissions. That's China in sixteen and people jump up

1:58:01.080 --> 1:58:03.680
<v Speaker 3>and down about our emissions here and I heard someone,

1:58:03.720 --> 1:58:05.680
<v Speaker 3>it might have been Paul Murray on Sky say well,

1:58:06.120 --> 1:58:08.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, have a look at the address of the

1:58:08.600 --> 1:58:11.840
<v Speaker 3>Chinese embassy in your city and maybe gohead and stand

1:58:11.920 --> 1:58:16.440
<v Speaker 3>outside there with a placard saying stop at getting really hot.

1:58:19.680 --> 1:58:23.560
<v Speaker 3>Energy experts declared the Albanese government was set to fail

1:58:23.680 --> 1:58:26.600
<v Speaker 3>its international commitment. Now it's commitment. What didn't they make

1:58:26.640 --> 1:58:29.960
<v Speaker 3>it legislated. I'm pretty sure they did forty three percent

1:58:30.040 --> 1:58:34.000
<v Speaker 3>of five levels by the end of the decade. Now

1:58:34.440 --> 1:58:39.800
<v Speaker 3>they just stayed impossible to get there. In fact, figures

1:58:39.880 --> 1:58:43.800
<v Speaker 3>released by the Climate Change Department show carbon dioxide emissions

1:58:43.960 --> 1:58:48.160
<v Speaker 3>rose by zero up on zero five percent in twenty

1:58:48.360 --> 1:58:52.520
<v Speaker 3>twenty four. That's equivalent to twenty seven percent lower than

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<v Speaker 3>in two thousand and five. I mentioned before the energy

1:58:55.880 --> 1:58:58.160
<v Speaker 3>expert Bruce Mountain said he did not think there was

1:58:58.200 --> 1:59:01.600
<v Speaker 3>a chance the Albanese he got government could meet its

1:59:01.680 --> 1:59:04.680
<v Speaker 3>twenty to thirty commitment. And I made this point and

1:59:04.760 --> 1:59:11.320
<v Speaker 3>this is what worries me, that what government typically would do.

1:59:11.760 --> 1:59:16.000
<v Speaker 3>And Chris Bowen is probably the main offender here. They'll

1:59:16.160 --> 1:59:20.200
<v Speaker 3>just put everything on steroids. You think things are already

1:59:20.320 --> 1:59:24.920
<v Speaker 3>expensive and at times unreliable, they're the predictions. So it

1:59:25.040 --> 1:59:29.120
<v Speaker 3>gets worse, not better. The Means government dramatically declared its

1:59:29.320 --> 1:59:32.960
<v Speaker 3>new electric buses would be built on New South Wales soil.

1:59:33.040 --> 1:59:35.880
<v Speaker 3>But the Saturday Telegraph is uncovered the stock being rolled

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<v Speaker 3>out from a factory in Beijing. Extraordinary photographs shared from

1:59:41.120 --> 1:59:45.160
<v Speaker 3>the headquarters of the Chinese company Photon. That's the issue.

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<v Speaker 3>They show a delivery ceremony in Beijing with workers posing

1:59:50.560 --> 1:59:54.360
<v Speaker 3>on a stage with a sign reading batch delivery ceremony

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<v Speaker 3>one twenty six electric buses of the Australian market. Mister

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<v Speaker 3>Means has pre He said the offshoring of public transport

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<v Speaker 3>by the former government was a complete disaster, which is

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<v Speaker 3>why we're building these buses here in New South Wales,

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<v Speaker 3>creating local jobs and public transport that works. The Australian

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<v Speaker 3>Manufacturing Workers' Union New South BOST Secretary Bradley Pigeon says

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<v Speaker 3>the overseas construction quote is against the very labor platform unquote.

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<v Speaker 3>The Premier had campaigned on we're sick of the lives

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<v Speaker 3>and hired the truth. I wonder if you'd be prepared

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<v Speaker 3>to say that just before an election hashtag just wondering.

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<v Speaker 3>Transport Minister John Graham defended his foreign built buses, saying

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<v Speaker 3>the first fifteen were rapidly built overseas and a bit

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<v Speaker 3>to meet a shortfall in Sydney. We're working to do

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<v Speaker 3>premier better on local content, says the Premier. The first

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five buses are heading to Nara where locals will

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<v Speaker 3>build in the seats. Hey, how good can you just

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<v Speaker 3>leave the seats off CCTV someone gets to put a

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<v Speaker 3>camera wiring an installation of the opal readers. Probably better

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<v Speaker 3>to do that here than stick them in the mail

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<v Speaker 3>and the telematics. I mean, you don't want to say fraudulent.

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<v Speaker 3>Plenty of emails and plenty of feedback. Thank you for that,

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<v Speaker 3>and Max says on the text, Hey, Louke, honesty, I

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<v Speaker 3>give up. Every weekend I see trail bikes riding all

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<v Speaker 3>around South Marubra and in particular around Coral Sea Park.

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<v Speaker 3>There's even one dad on a mini trail bike with

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<v Speaker 3>his two or three year old that rides around the

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<v Speaker 3>Coral Seapark even when there are hundreds of kids and parents.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually just saw him buying his smokes, riding away

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<v Speaker 3>with his two year old or three year old on

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<v Speaker 3>his lap and a smoke at his mouth. I've called

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<v Speaker 3>the police five times over the past few months. Just

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<v Speaker 3>keeps happening. A young man was killed last year. Time

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<v Speaker 3>to give up. Wow, that's amazing. I was in a

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<v Speaker 3>seven to eleven the other day. They had their cigarette

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<v Speaker 3>prices on the screen behind the counter. One packet of

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<v Speaker 3>Marlborough twenty five seventy five ninety nine, I can buy

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<v Speaker 3>ten packets of twenties of illegal cigarettes for one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and ten bucks. I'll never go back to buying the

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<v Speaker 3>legal stuff. Whatever you do, don't smoke. Thank you Ash

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<v Speaker 3>for getting in touch. Luke China's just reached the stage

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<v Speaker 3>of starting to reduce emissions thanks to the rapid installations

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<v Speaker 3>of alternative energy. That's despite a big increase in energy usage.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't accept that, John, I'd love you to email

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<v Speaker 3>me a link that proves that to be the case,

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<v Speaker 3>not some piece of Chinese Communist Party propaganda. And they're

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<v Speaker 3>building more nuclear maybe John, that's it, do you think,

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<v Speaker 3>because they're building hundreds of coal fired power stations every year.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you'd like to email me or send me

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<v Speaker 3>something that justifies that, or supports that, or proves that,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm happy to make that clear to the audience. Good a, Luke.

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<v Speaker 3>The official first day of winter was the twenty first

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<v Speaker 3>of June. Please stop giving out misinformation. Smiley face, smiley face,

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<v Speaker 3>have a wonderful day, a Will, Pamela, thank you for

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<v Speaker 3>getting in touch. We're looking into an incident at a

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<v Speaker 3>Coles supermarket in the Eastern suburbs. Thank you, Sharon. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>get more information on that. If there's more to report,

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<v Speaker 3>we will. Okay, has Mark locked the studio door while

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<v Speaker 3>recording voiceovers to stop MG coming in. I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 3>MG's not here today, but that's obviously a thing of

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<v Speaker 3>which I'm not aware. Thank you for your texts. Zero

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<v Speaker 3>force zero eight seven eight seven three. You might remember

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<v Speaker 3>Fiegel or fergul Sharky. I think it is fergul Sharky.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a performer, a music well. I guess heavyweight.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a couple of hits of the eighties, and

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<v Speaker 3>he made it clear through the last week or so

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<v Speaker 3>that he'd been battling prostate cancer. I wasn't aware of that.

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<v Speaker 3>He's also an environmentalist. I'll play you want to the

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<v Speaker 3>songs in the moment fergul Shaki.

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<v Speaker 17>About a year and a half ago, I randomly went

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<v Speaker 17>to see my GP with a sore throat. Now I've

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<v Speaker 17>known him long enough, but he goes, no, no, you

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<v Speaker 17>that book us to sing. So if you're telling me

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<v Speaker 17>you've got a sore throat, there's something going on. So

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<v Speaker 17>my doctor, been the beautiful, wonderful, awkward, contankerous old man

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<v Speaker 17>that he is, went oh, Fregol, by the way, you're

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<v Speaker 17>sixty five, I'm going to run the full battery of tests.

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<v Speaker 17>Two days later, turns out I began a journey which

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<v Speaker 17>led their prognosis of prostate cancer.

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<v Speaker 4>Thankfully, that's all now been resolved. A year ago, but

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<v Speaker 4>here we are.

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<v Speaker 17>Had it not been for that random visit to my

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<v Speaker 17>local GP, I would have never have known that I

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<v Speaker 17>was at that point carrying prostate cancer. And if it

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<v Speaker 17>had not been seen to you, it could have been

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<v Speaker 17>a very different ending in a very different wad come

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<v Speaker 17>to my life. So reason I'm very happy to talk

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<v Speaker 17>about it. If there's one monitor right now over there

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<v Speaker 17>to forty five, go and see your GP. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 17>get blood test on.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>That's Fergul Sharky Obe a singer and an environmentalist from

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<v Speaker 3>Northern Ireland. He's very keen on river health. He's a

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<v Speaker 3>fly fisher. Did you know that anyway? You got through

2:05:18.320 --> 2:05:21.520
<v Speaker 3>that battle? And he's reminding all blokes everywhere to take

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<v Speaker 3>your head out of the sand. Fergl Sharky a good heart.

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<v Speaker 3>On weekends you a lot of story. Do you remember

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<v Speaker 3>that from the eighties. That's Fergl Sharky. That's a good

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<v Speaker 3>heart revealing this week he's stared down prostate cancer and

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<v Speaker 3>telling blokes OI, get serious, get tested, get some emails quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>El listening in North queens Angerdeel we worry about that zero.

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<v Speaker 3>Why aren't the same people worrying about net plastics. This morning,

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<v Speaker 3>I took out the trash, put a new plastic bag

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<v Speaker 3>in the bin. Then the first three things I happened

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<v Speaker 3>for our family breakfast, A plastic bag of clothorn, the

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<v Speaker 3>plastic fed of cheese packet, and then the sliced plastic rappers.

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<v Speaker 3>Goodness me, let's stop all it's rot about net zero.

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<v Speaker 3>It's sending us broke. Get on with life. Thank you

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<v Speaker 3>well and Phil, says Luke. Eighty three years ago today

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<v Speaker 3>the Imperial Japanese Navy visited US, killed twenty one on

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<v Speaker 3>the cutterable of firing a torpedo at USS Chicago. Not

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<v Speaker 3>sure if you got to this as shamefully I missed

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of your show. I apologize. So that was

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<v Speaker 3>very kind of you, Phil, And it wasn't for your email,

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't have mentioned that. So thank you Phil. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>take a break. Craig Bennett's next. Thank you Adam for

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<v Speaker 3>your text, Luke. All the roads from Heathcote through Ingerdeen,

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<v Speaker 3>Loft of Sutherland, bangor Meni, etc. A dog's breakfast, bumper

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<v Speaker 3>and a bumper due to the closure of Heathcote Road.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks Adam. Joy Jeez, Luky, haven't heard that song for

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<v Speaker 3>a while you did it again, but a good song.

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<v Speaker 3>Heeh figel or fer Sharky, who revealed through the week

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<v Speaker 3>he's prostate cancer battle, which he appears to be on

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<v Speaker 3>top of. Clay, says Luke. He started in the seventies

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<v Speaker 3>band The Undertones, my perfect cousin their biggest hit. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>have a listen to that, Thank you, Clay. Grab the smelling.

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<v Speaker 2>Souls, industry or strength if you have them, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't forget the pickle juice, because it's time for Starstruck

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<v Speaker 1>with Craig Bennett.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we've got a busy time with Craig today. Of

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<v Speaker 3>course there's plenty to talk about. Yeah, grab the appropriate

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<v Speaker 3>support mechanism, be that a drink or something firm, as

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<v Speaker 3>we often refer to here. If you want to go

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<v Speaker 3>to the extreme and just have yourself, you know, well

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<v Speaker 3>and truly prepared, we always suggest just a port glass,

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<v Speaker 3>not too much of pickled juice. Had that need to

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<v Speaker 3>you if you will. We're going to be talking about

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<v Speaker 3>Clint Eastwood, who's ninety five today, And as I say, Craig,

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<v Speaker 3>good afternoon to you, I can't help because I saw

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<v Speaker 3>a clip online of you and the wonderful the great

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<v Speaker 3>Loretta suit Emmy Award winning actress who was I think

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<v Speaker 3>for with the exception of eleven episodes, was in every

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<v Speaker 3>episode of Mash, that wonderful program, and she has sadly

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<v Speaker 3>passed away over night.

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<v Speaker 24>You are absolutely right, Luke, Yes, good afternoon to you.

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<v Speaker 24>And she's gone so loved as Major Margaret Hulahan hot

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<v Speaker 24>lips of course from the Telly series Mash, And you're right.

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<v Speaker 24>She was in two hundred and forty five episodes across

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<v Speaker 24>eleven seasons, only missing eleven of them. A fascinating showbiz life.

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<v Speaker 24>She wish she'd been in acting since the sixties. She

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<v Speaker 24>kicked off on stage in New York and was also

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<v Speaker 24>a beautiful singer, But of course, I guess it was

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<v Speaker 24>her role on Mash that really captivated the world. Came

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<v Speaker 24>along in nineteen seventy two. She was married once. In fact,

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<v Speaker 24>it was to an actor who appeared briefly on MASH.

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<v Speaker 24>They had no kids, but look, she was a devoted

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<v Speaker 24>animal activist, so dogs were her kids. She told me,

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<v Speaker 24>I did have the joy of chatting with Loretta about oh,

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<v Speaker 24>four years ago, I think it was maybe five. For

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<v Speaker 24>Studio ten. She was at that point living in New York.

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<v Speaker 24>She'd been living in Los Angeles for years but had

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<v Speaker 24>moved to New York and it was teed up.

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<v Speaker 6>To be a zoom interview.

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<v Speaker 24>And the thing is, Loretta had never done a zoom

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<v Speaker 24>alone before her assistant had gone home because of the

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<v Speaker 24>time difference between Australia and New York. It was sort

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<v Speaker 24>of in the evening for her. So in this desperate

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<v Speaker 24>bit to get it happening because she just couldn't make

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<v Speaker 24>it work. You could see it and there was no sound,

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<v Speaker 24>and you could hear of a vision and all of that.

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<v Speaker 24>This was recorded, obviously not life. Poor darly. She was

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<v Speaker 24>running up and down these stairs to the dorman in

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<v Speaker 24>the foyer and he eventually got it happening. It looks

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<v Speaker 24>she was fun She was funny. She was very sharing

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<v Speaker 24>with her honesty, the great stories, the triumphs of her career.

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<v Speaker 24>You know, she was in Hawaii five Oh. I think

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<v Speaker 24>it was her first Telly appearance back in the sixties.

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<v Speaker 24>But anyway, what happened was and it was also sudden.

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<v Speaker 24>I was interviewing Jamie Fahr the other day and we

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<v Speaker 24>were talking obviously about Loretta, and oh, she's in great health,

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<v Speaker 24>and we're going off to do something in a couple

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<v Speaker 24>of months, one of those big fan convention things. And

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<v Speaker 24>she loved all of that. So she was chatting last

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<v Speaker 24>night with her very close friend and publicist on the phone,

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<v Speaker 24>was in great form. He regaled midday today in New

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<v Speaker 24>York time, which is about two a in our time,

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<v Speaker 24>she was found dead in her apartment by her maid

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<v Speaker 24>eighty seven. So there she was last night having a

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<v Speaker 24>great old chin wag on the phone and in seemingly

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<v Speaker 24>fabulous spirits and dead the next day early today our time.

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<v Speaker 24>And you know, Luke, that means we've lost another mash

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<v Speaker 24>great but who obviously is still with us today so

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<v Speaker 24>far as is the great Jamie Farr, of course, always

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<v Speaker 24>loved this Klinger Alan old Mike Farrell who was honeycut,

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<v Speaker 24>and Gary Berghoff who was a raidar. And anyway, many

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<v Speaker 24>memories of Loretta sweet, I know everybody will have one.

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<v Speaker 24>She was just so adored, so loved, And I just

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<v Speaker 24>want to tell you if you thought she was gorgeous

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<v Speaker 24>and sweet and wonderful, interesting, aerodite in articulate, you are

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<v Speaker 24>absolutely not wrong on any of those cows.

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<v Speaker 3>And you mentioned the fact that she was a beautiful singer.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't aware of that until I found this this morning. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>there she is Loretta Switt sorely missed in a wonderful talent.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for doing that. Mate. We are talking as

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<v Speaker 3>I mentioned about Clint Eastwood today.

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<v Speaker 24>Yes, that's right, Clint Eastwood, who it's a happy birthday.

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<v Speaker 24>I mean, if we had the cake in front of us,

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<v Speaker 24>we'd be blowing out ninety five candles on his behalf.

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<v Speaker 6>Look.

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<v Speaker 24>I mean, as well as being a four time Oscar

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<v Speaker 24>winning movie star director and way back in the fifties,

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<v Speaker 24>of course, let's via the television where he was on

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<v Speaker 24>that great Western series Rawhider's Rowdy Yates. He was also

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<v Speaker 24>a wonderful singer, and not a lot of people know that.

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<v Speaker 24>I guess, much like Lord Retta Sweet, people don't realize

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<v Speaker 24>that Clint was a fabulous singer. And in fact, I think,

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<v Speaker 24>if my psychic vibe is right, Luke Grant, you might

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<v Speaker 24>have just a little of Clint Eastwood singing, and I'm

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<v Speaker 24>sure people are going to be thinking that's not Clint Eastwood.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, I want to sing de Lafine and get a raised.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I be the first to say that's not Clint Eastwood.

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<v Speaker 24>Yes, you're just listening then to a big bulk of

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<v Speaker 24>roses that was from Clint Eastwood sing's Cowboy Favorites. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 24>I promise you that the first the first song you

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<v Speaker 24>heard was a duet with the late great Merle Haggard,

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<v Speaker 24>and that was a song called Barroom Buddies, which was

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<v Speaker 24>a number one hit around the world in nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 24>and of course it featured in Clint Eastwood's Bronco Billy

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<v Speaker 24>movie that he started with one of his girlfriends or wife,

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<v Speaker 24>Sondra Locke, will talk about all of that in a minute,

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<v Speaker 24>but yes, I mean he recorded a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 24>albums as an actor, of course, away from the microphone,

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<v Speaker 24>enjoyed a and continues to do so. Seventy year Hollywood career,

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<v Speaker 24>which kicked off in nineteen fifty five. In fact, his

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<v Speaker 24>first movie role. I know he's going to shock your

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<v Speaker 24>socks off. So far he's starting what sixty five movies,

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<v Speaker 24>including those very famous Sergiolion and spaghetti westerns like A

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<v Speaker 24>Fistful of Dollars and The Good, the Bad, and the Ugliest.

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<v Speaker 24>Of course, he was Harry Callahan in five Dirty Harry movies.

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<v Speaker 24>He sang opposite Lee Marvin in a musical called Paint

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<v Speaker 24>Your Wagon. He was in things like Escape from Alcatraz

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<v Speaker 24>and the Bridges of Madison County. Play Misty for Me

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<v Speaker 24>was the start of his sensational directing. I've absolutely loved

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<v Speaker 24>that movie, just a fabulous and of course you being

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<v Speaker 24>in radio, I'm sure it holds a a poignant thought

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<v Speaker 24>for you. So he's directed so far what forty one movies,

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<v Speaker 24>including Jay Edgar, There was Sully, there was Jersey Boys.

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<v Speaker 24>You see the incredible variety in what this man does.

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<v Speaker 24>His most recent was During Number two, which came out

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<v Speaker 24>last year, which you've not seen, Luke. If you've not

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<v Speaker 24>seen it, you should hunt it up. It's a masterpiece.

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<v Speaker 24>That's really quite. It's a court room thrill. Right, And

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<v Speaker 24>here we are at ninety five. He is still working

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<v Speaker 24>looking at scripts for his next project. Also a very accomplished,

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<v Speaker 24>accompanied accomplished pianist and a composer, and you often hear

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<v Speaker 24>his jazzy scores in his movies. To his private life.

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<v Speaker 24>Not visa will cover this, but hourly Dooley, you'll need

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<v Speaker 24>the heart paddles.

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<v Speaker 6>Stand.

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<v Speaker 24>Oh yes, look, there's been two marriages, two very messy divorces,

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<v Speaker 24>cheating scandals up the wazoo, fathered eight kids. I say

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<v Speaker 24>that we know of because his biographer, the great Patrick

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<v Speaker 24>McGilligan claims there may be more kid jenneficant I know

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<v Speaker 24>because Clint's very private about his private life. Doesn't discuss it.

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<v Speaker 24>No flies on Clint though in his love life, because

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<v Speaker 24>last year, very sadly, his girlfriend of ten years died

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<v Speaker 24>of a heart attack. Only sixty one months later, bingo,

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<v Speaker 24>there he is in the company of another younger woman.

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<v Speaker 24>And let's not forget amongst all the movie star stuff

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<v Speaker 24>and you know, singing and whatever. Great director. He was

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<v Speaker 24>also the mayor of Carmel for two years in the eighties. Carmel,

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<v Speaker 24>of course, the wonderful seaside town south of San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 24>home to Doris Day before she left us twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 24>But a bit of trivia about that. When Clint was

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<v Speaker 24>mayor of Carmel, first thing he did was overturned that

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<v Speaker 24>the rather silly no ice cream cone rule. And it

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<v Speaker 24>was a very odd law that stated there should be

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<v Speaker 24>no ice cream parlors in Carmel, because you see, on

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<v Speaker 24>the odd occasion a hot day, or if you were

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<v Speaker 24>butter fingers, ice cream would fall out of their cones

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<v Speaker 24>and go all sticky and horrible and gowey on the footpath,

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<v Speaker 24>bringing ants theious. They made a law again. Yes, anyway,

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<v Speaker 24>it's a wild story, including voodoo and one of these

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<v Speaker 24>ex's road a very unflattering blek. It's all coming your

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<v Speaker 24>way in a tick as I don't even think holding

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<v Speaker 24>onto something firm is going to help.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, look well it sounds to me like it is.

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<v Speaker 3>This has got heart tattles written all over it. Back

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<v Speaker 3>with Craig in a sec we're looking at the life

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<v Speaker 3>and times of Clint Eastwood, who's ninety five today, and

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<v Speaker 3>Craig Simon says, look, I learn every time I listened

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<v Speaker 3>to you too. Today I learned Clint Eastwood made the

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<v Speaker 3>right decision to pursue acting and not singing. People be

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<v Speaker 3>so unkind.

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<v Speaker 24>Yeah, it's the paraphrase kamal, Why are people so uncover?

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed? Anyway, my friend over to you.

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<v Speaker 11>Yep.

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<v Speaker 24>San Francisco is where Clinton Eastwood was born ninety five

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<v Speaker 24>years ago. Today. Had a younger sister, Jeanie, who's still

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<v Speaker 24>with us somewhere. Look, their mom worked as a secretary.

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<v Speaker 24>Dad was in the paper pulp industry, and Clent bounced

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<v Speaker 24>into the world an enormous baby, five point two kilos.

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<v Speaker 24>Ask anyone any lady who's had above weighed five point

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<v Speaker 24>two kilos and they'll let you know. The nurses were

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<v Speaker 24>right when they nicknamed him Samson. Look when he finished

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<v Speaker 24>at school and acting kind of wasn't on his radar

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<v Speaker 24>at all. He went on, in fact, to become a

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<v Speaker 24>firefighter and a lifeguard. He was a golf caddy for

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<v Speaker 24>a bit and then he was drafted into the war

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<v Speaker 24>nineteen fifty one. But he avoided service in career because

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<v Speaker 24>at the time he was romancing the daughter of the

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<v Speaker 24>officer whose job it was to assign personnel overseas, you see,

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<v Speaker 24>and so didn't get assigned overseas. However, close scrape with death,

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<v Speaker 24>and this is the early fifties. He was returning from

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<v Speaker 24>Seattle in a DA bomber aircraft when the true story

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<v Speaker 24>ran out of fuel and crashed into the ocean near

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<v Speaker 24>Point Ray's, California. He escaped the sinking aircraft paddled on

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<v Speaker 24>a life ra up three kilometers to land. Absolutely incredible story.

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<v Speaker 24>Look to he showed you start he was a strapping

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<v Speaker 24>six foot on the old scale, six foot four on

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<v Speaker 24>the old scale, very handsome, so it look long story short,

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<v Speaker 24>someone suggested, what about acting make a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 24>so he auditioned for Universal Studios. He was considered very stiff,

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<v Speaker 24>in fact, so wooden' he could have been a smagas

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<v Speaker 24>board for termites. And the director noted that he kind

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<v Speaker 24>of hissed his lines through clenched teeth, and he squinted

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<v Speaker 24>far too much. Still, he had that certain something luke,

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<v Speaker 24>and so off to drama classes he trotted, and he

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<v Speaker 24>was into a one hundred dollars a week contract. His

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<v Speaker 24>very first movie was a little bit in a horrorforic

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<v Speaker 24>called Revenge of the Creature in nineteen fifty five, So

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<v Speaker 24>there was Clinton Eastwood's movie debut. He was twenty five

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<v Speaker 24>at the time. It was in fact a sequel that

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<v Speaker 24>movie to The Creature from the Black Lagoon. And then

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<v Speaker 24>he had a role in a similar creature feature flick

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<v Speaker 24>called Tarantula. And then he then along Bounced raw Hide

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<v Speaker 24>in nineteen fifty nine, and he stayed with that show

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<v Speaker 24>for seven seasons, made him a household name. He quit,

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<v Speaker 24>claiming the character was stupid and Clottish. Then came those

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<v Speaker 24>spaghetti western so called because of course they were shocked,

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<v Speaker 24>usually on the chief, usually in Italy. And Clint Eastwood's

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<v Speaker 24>career is off and it is running. Look to his

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<v Speaker 24>very messy private life. Biographers, ex wives, partners of branded

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<v Speaker 24>Clint a solid gold, good time boy, a serial philander

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<v Speaker 24>in an unkind of way. His first wife, a beautiful

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<v Speaker 24>blonde who was a secretary named Maggie. They met on

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<v Speaker 24>a blind date, married in nineteen fifty three. He was

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<v Speaker 24>twenty three then, but the cheating started from the get go.

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<v Speaker 24>It turns out while he was wooing Maggie again, fact

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<v Speaker 24>god an actress pregnant. So along comes Clint's first daughter, Laurie,

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<v Speaker 24>who was venadoff about the whole thing was hush hush,

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<v Speaker 24>nobody knew. Clinton Laurie then reconnected. Years later, nineteen sixty four,

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<v Speaker 24>he had another daughter, not with his wife. Kimber is

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<v Speaker 24>the name of his second daughter, the result of a

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<v Speaker 24>long affair he was having with a stunt woman while

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<v Speaker 24>he was married to wife number one. Clint then had

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<v Speaker 24>two kids with his wife, Kyle, a son who's a

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<v Speaker 24>jazz museo, and Alison, who's an actress and a fashion designer.

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<v Speaker 24>Now his indiscretions were kept an absolute secret. People had

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<v Speaker 24>no idea, Oh, isn't that lovely's marriage? He's got two kids.

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<v Speaker 24>But then, of course along comes the National inquirer, who'd

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<v Speaker 24>gotten wind of all of this, exposed Clints too well,

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<v Speaker 24>as they called them back then, love child scandals. And

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<v Speaker 24>that was it for Maggie Wife number one. She split

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<v Speaker 24>from Clint and eventually divorced him in nineteen eighty four,

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<v Speaker 24>romping off with a twenty five million dollar payer. Thank

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<v Speaker 24>you very much, don't mind if I do so look

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<v Speaker 24>for those keeping count one wife, two kids, an array

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<v Speaker 24>of affairs resulting in two more kids, so four kids

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<v Speaker 24>all up.

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<v Speaker 11>Now.

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<v Speaker 24>In the mid seventies, while still married to Maggie, he

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<v Speaker 24>fell mad in love with the actress Sondra Locked. They

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<v Speaker 24>made a movie together called The Outlaw of Josie Whale.

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<v Speaker 24>Sondra and Clint moved in together. Very complicated because take

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<v Speaker 24>notes of this, please, Luke. Sondra was married to a

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<v Speaker 24>gay man.

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<v Speaker 9>Who wore elf shoes.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, who hasn't done that?

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<v Speaker 24>And had psychic flashes. Well, I just think that's one

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<v Speaker 24>hell of a combination anyway, Clint was so enamored with

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<v Speaker 24>Sondra heaven bought a house for her gay hubby and

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<v Speaker 24>his husband and no doubt their collection of elf shoes

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<v Speaker 24>or quite interesting. Clinton Sondra made six movies together, including

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<v Speaker 24>The Gauntlet, Every which Way but Loose. But it wasn't

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<v Speaker 24>till last Sondra was away making a movie, came home

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<v Speaker 24>to find that Clint had actually changed the locks. And

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<v Speaker 24>so along comes nineteen ninety seven and Sondra, obviously still

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<v Speaker 24>smarting from this, understandably wrote a blistering teller book titled

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<v Speaker 24>The Good, the Bad, and the Very Ugly, and she

2:22:01.800 --> 2:22:04.000
<v Speaker 24>painted him as being not the Clint East would we

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<v Speaker 24>see on the screen. She reckons, he destroyed her career,

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<v Speaker 24>tapped to phone masterminded all sorts of very peculiar skullduggery. Now,

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<v Speaker 24>during his romance with Sondra, Clint had two more kids

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<v Speaker 24>with a very beautiful flight attendant named Jocelyn. So they

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<v Speaker 24>were Scott, who is now a famous actor, and Catherine. Again,

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<v Speaker 24>it was one of the scandal sheets that was on

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<v Speaker 24>the case and exposed Clint's cheating and as I say,

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<v Speaker 24>they called it back then, loved children. Next up came

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<v Speaker 24>an affair with the actress Francis Fisher. You might remember

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<v Speaker 24>if you saw the Leo DiCaprio Leonardo DiCaprio movie Titanic.

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<v Speaker 24>Francis Fisher, wonderful actress. She played Kate Winslet, snooty mum

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<v Speaker 24>in that movie. Well, Clinton Francis met when they're making

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<v Speaker 24>the Pink Cadillac movie. This was in the eighties. They

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<v Speaker 24>had a daughter, Francesca. So for those who have completely

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<v Speaker 24>lost cap let me see one to seven kids so far.

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<v Speaker 24>While Clint was romancing Francis, he begins a sly affair

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<v Speaker 24>with a TV reported by the name of Dina Ruis. Now.

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<v Speaker 24>They met nineteen ninety three. She came over to interview

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<v Speaker 24>him about his you know, Stella career and all of that.

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<v Speaker 24>Then was sixty three, she was twenty eight. They had

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<v Speaker 24>a daughter together, so that's eight kids so far. They

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<v Speaker 24>remained Clinton Diana married wife number two for fourteen years,

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<v Speaker 24>but it hit the skids when Bringo you guessed that

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<v Speaker 24>he was caught out apparently having his wicked way with

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<v Speaker 24>some beauty again. She divorced him twenty fourteen, but told

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<v Speaker 24>all to the National Inquiry. I think it was for

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<v Speaker 24>maximum embarrassment. You see Luke saying that she had to

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<v Speaker 24>use voodoo to cleanse her life of Clint Easa twenty

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<v Speaker 24>four As you do, you'd be mad. Twenty fourteen, he

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<v Speaker 24>starts dating a beautiful blonde named Christina Sandera, who was

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<v Speaker 24>in fact a hostess at his mission in in Carmel

2:23:55.320 --> 2:23:58.400
<v Speaker 24>restaurant he had there. Sadly, she died last year, only

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<v Speaker 24>sixty one. He of course was nine, So he's now

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<v Speaker 24>ninety five today apparently dating again, although we don't know

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<v Speaker 24>the identity of his latest paramore. Look, he's around worth

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<v Speaker 24>around five hundred million, stays fit, doing pilates, doesn't smoke, barely, drinks,

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<v Speaker 24>stabbles in transcendental meditation, and as I say when we

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<v Speaker 24>began our chat, not done yet. Should his health remain aokay?

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<v Speaker 24>Looking to make another movie later this year? I mean,

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<v Speaker 24>good lord, considering the life he's led, and I just

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<v Speaker 24>touched on it, it's a wonder he wasn't worn out

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<v Speaker 24>in the bedroom years.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, I think that's a very fair observation. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>you've been so generous with your time today. You've amazed

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<v Speaker 3>us with all that information about Clint eastfood. None of

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<v Speaker 3>that on you. I mean, next time I look at

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<v Speaker 3>the unforgiven, well I look at it differently and.

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<v Speaker 24>You'll realize why. That's what he's That's what he's.

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<v Speaker 6>Very hard to say.

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<v Speaker 3>You are under and forgiven.

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<v Speaker 6>That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks mate, every great weekend.

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<v Speaker 6>That's it.

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<v Speaker 9>Next week.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, see that's Craig Bennett. Have a chet to Mark

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<v Speaker 3>Levy in a second. All right, we've got a spinal

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<v Speaker 3>Le's pillow up for grabs here one three, one eight

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<v Speaker 3>seven three for the quiz, I reckon, you'll nail it today.

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<v Speaker 3>One three, one eight seven three. Mark's up next on

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<v Speaker 3>the continuous Call team, with a likely bunch of suspects

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<v Speaker 3>alongside him today, including Fergo, Big Marn make my day

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<v Speaker 3>go ahead, and gals and yescuse here today, he storm,

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<v Speaker 3>you're not going to cover that. No, we'll keep some school.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't really care about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Cowboys and West Tigers. Oh this one I'm in. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I reckon. I got I got to work this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought I've got to call the footing.

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<v Speaker 25>I had last night off Luke and good. I went

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<v Speaker 25>to have a drink. Well, I went at a couple

2:25:41.440 --> 2:25:43.640
<v Speaker 25>of beers last night. Right, So I'm a little wounded today.

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<v Speaker 25>But I don't get a chance to go out and

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<v Speaker 25>see my mate.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you have them in a schooner glass? I had

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<v Speaker 3>a scoon of.

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<v Speaker 25>Glass and then they got to a shorter glass with

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<v Speaker 25>some bourbon and cake. Look at this, which I think

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<v Speaker 25>gave me the headache this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure it wouldn't it.

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<v Speaker 25>Going to celebrate New South Wales victory. And yeah I

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<v Speaker 25>got a crack calling some Origin on Wednesday, which was fun.

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<v Speaker 3>I bet it was fun.

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<v Speaker 6>You.

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<v Speaker 3>How did you feel any how about Brisbane?

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<v Speaker 2>Still here?

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<v Speaker 3>I was booping myself. Yeah, and you didn't do that

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<v Speaker 3>your front well, not that we could tell.

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<v Speaker 25>Listening well up in the Western grandstand at the very top,

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<v Speaker 25>there's no toilet. No toilet, bit of an issue, especially

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<v Speaker 25>when you get the half time and you need.

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<v Speaker 3>To go to the toilet. Is that a good ground

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<v Speaker 3>to call from?

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<v Speaker 12>No?

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<v Speaker 25>Terrible, terrible, it's it's it's such a magnificent stadium to

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<v Speaker 25>go and watch from all reports play footy. But as

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<v Speaker 25>far as see, Thirsty and Rayue told me that the

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<v Speaker 25>radio boxes at Sun Corporate and afterthought when they built

2:26:40.040 --> 2:26:43.960
<v Speaker 25>the stadium, the television boxes are beautiful, luxurious. We're up

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<v Speaker 25>on the same level as the alicopters. Right anyway, first

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<v Speaker 25>right problems?

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<v Speaker 3>I know I we'll hear you soon. You want to

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<v Speaker 3>see I am you look well?

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<v Speaker 20>Like you like me?

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<v Speaker 3>Just warm? Yeah? It is for would you like it?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it had fit? Bye? Comets, got nothing

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<v Speaker 3>to say to you. Bye? See you mate? Now who

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<v Speaker 3>we got to play with today? Click? Someone tell me?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it right? It's Rod from Picnic Point Good a Rod? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>good mate. Coalition back together after the split. A frontbencher

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<v Speaker 3>was dropped. Was it Jane Hume or John Howard? Correct?

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<v Speaker 3>Princess Ingred Alexandria of Norway's an Now she's moving to

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<v Speaker 3>Australia to study at Sydney. Union is the capital of Norway,

2:27:30.680 --> 2:27:36.240
<v Speaker 3>Oslo or Mexico City, New South Wales. One. The origin

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<v Speaker 3>was the first try scored by Zach Lomax or Elana Ferguson. Lomax,

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, thank you, thank you Rod. That's all she

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<v Speaker 3>wrote you in Now I must leave you, but we're

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<v Speaker 3>back tomorrow at nine o'clock. And Dave the bus driver

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<v Speaker 3>who's written me this note, luky take care driving home please?

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't that sweet? We have got reports of emergency vehicles

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<v Speaker 3>on Woodville Road and Guilford Police responding to a car

2:28:08.879 --> 2:28:12.160
<v Speaker 3>reported car accident there. We'll bring you more information as

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<v Speaker 3>we get it here. Conservative commentator Will Kingston on the

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<v Speaker 3>show tomorrow from the UK workplaces letting down case of

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<v Speaker 3>passion patients. I'll speak to a remarkable Australian, Sue Wardell,

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<v Speaker 3>on that catch you tomorrow. Bye bye