WEBVTT - Sunday Night Bill Crews June 22 2025 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:12.479 Welcome to Sunday Night, Cruise. 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:28.640 Imagine is you and now here's your radio, Reverend Bill Cruise. 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:30.480 When I will. 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:44.120 A great, big, warm welcome to your Sunday Night family. You, yes, you, 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:47.600 you really are welcome here and we're all together on air, 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:51.960 on digital and online. So come on call in now, 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:54.760 call in and share with us on one three one 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:59.120 eight seven three. Coming up, we'll be talking to Leoni Sheedy, 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:03.400 the co founder and CEO of care Leavers Australasia Network, 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:07.679 who are about to celebrate twenty five years of service 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:11.880 to the community. And later this hour p Wee Wilson, 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:15.680 the founding member of the Dell Tones, joins us. After 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:18.880 ten I'm joined in the Netherlands by doctor Philip Nitsky 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:23.840 about voluntary assisted dying, pushing boundaries and the new role 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:27.720 for AI. And in our last hour, we'll talk to 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:30.800 Nick Brown, the CEO of Street Side Medics, which is 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:34.560 a not for profit delivering a free GP led mobile 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:51.080 medical service to people experiencing homelessness. Well Rahan has threatened 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:54.440 to use all forced needed to defend itself after the 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:59.400 United States President Donald Trump ordered American aircraft to bomb 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:04.720 three Iranian nucleo Sytes in what he called a spectacular 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:08.560 military success and historic moment for the world. 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:12.840 A short time ago, the US military carried out massive 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:18.919 precision strikes on the three key nuclear facilities. Our objective 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:24.440 was the destruction of irans nuclear enrichment capacity and a 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:28.440 stop to the nuclear threat posed by the world's number 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:32.120 one state sponsor of terror. Tonight, I can report to 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:38.520 the world that the strikes were a spectacular military success. 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:43.160 Iran's key nuclear and Richmond facilities have been completely and 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:48.440 totally obliterated around the bully of the Middle East must 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:52.240 now make peace. If they do not, future attacks would 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.320 be far greater and a lot easier. 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:58.960 Global leaders feared Trump's major intervention in the conflict would 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:03.160 further destayed the Middle East. As the President warned, Iran 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:07.880 must make peace or face further attack. The Iranian Foreign 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:11.920 ministry accused the US of criminal aggression and urged the 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:17.160 United Nations to respond. A summit in Geneva yesterday with 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:21.360 the Iran's foreign minister and European leaders yielded no signs 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:25.320 of a breakthrough. The death told from Israel's attacks on 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:29.320 Iran has risen to more than four hundred, including many 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.360 women and children. At least twenty four people have been 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:37.760 killed in Iranian attacks on Israel. Come on, we do 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:41.800 you reckon? This is all going? Is America's participation in 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.360 the war to be a good or a bad thing? 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:49.200 How important is it to strip Iran of its nuclear capabilities? 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:54.520 Is it possible that the Iranian regime might collapse? And 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.480 what would that mean for Putin and Russia if they 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:01.480 lose a key strategic partner. Is it possible that the 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:06.920 conflict might spread if other countries become involved? How could 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:11.840 Australia become involved as one of America's leading allies. The 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:15.680 Australian government has released a statement calling for de escalation 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:19.360 of the Middle East and acknowledging the risk post by 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.600 Iran's nuclear program, in which it did not endorse the 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:27.279 United States strikes. The Australian government has released a statement 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:31.159 calling for de escalation of the Middle East and acknowledging 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:35.039 the risk post by Iran's nuclear program, in which it 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:38.760 did not endorse the United States strikes. Do you reckon 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:42.360 the government's got it right? Your thoughts on the Israeli 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:46.240 Iran conflict and how the US is involved and where 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:51.400 you think it's all headed? One, three, one, eight, seven three, 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:55.159 and earlier this month, a pedestrian in Perth tragically died 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:58.960 after being struck by an e scooter. This followed the 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.920 death of another person Victoria last month who were sit 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:05.479 and killed by a modified e bike which police alleged 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:09.640 could travel at ninety kilometers per hour. At least two 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:13.360 patients per day, that so many people. Just one major 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:17.080 emergency hospital in Queensland is treating due to an alarming 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:21.799 rise in east scooter accidents. The injuries are so complex, 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:26.239 so severe, patients are being assessed just like high speed 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:31.159 car crash victims. This is what Dr Michael Kane, had 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:34.599 a public policy at the RACQ, had to say about 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:35.120 the problem. 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:38.359 Well, what we've seen in Queensland over the last six 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:43.440 years is six three hundred people admitted to Queensland emergency 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:48.719 departments and tragically we have seen fifteen people being killed 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:51.880 in the last two and a half years alone. And 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.880 what we're also seeing, which is terrible, is that people 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:59.640 who are not dying or are not receiving brain injuries 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:04.239 are than receiving major facial injuries. These are life changing 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:05.240 injuries for people. 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:09.159 Now a crackdown could see stand up scooters band and 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:13.480 modified device has seized. Here's what doctor Kaine says needs 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:14.400 to be done well. 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:18.320 The RACQ is asking for the impounding of what are 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:22.080 illegal e scooters and e bikes. Some of these e 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:25.719 scooters go up to one hundred and ten kmeters an hour. 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:29.720 That's not a scooter, that's a vehicle. Mopeds are only 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.280 allowed to go up to fifty We also want to 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:35.480 see on legal stand up e scooters that you wear 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:39.080 a full face helmet and the scheme scooters the highest 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:41.960 scooters that we see across a number of Australian cities. 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:45.680 We want those scooters to be sit down e scooters 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:49.000 because they're much safer. We also want to see money 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:53.479 invested in our separated pathways because e scooters and e 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:56.680 bikes do have a positive and they do help us 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.880 address congestions, so we need to invest more in the 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:01.360 pathway infrastructure. 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:04.960 Meanwhile, New South Wales is looking to legalize the scooters 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:09.080 under a new safety framework. So what are your thoughts 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:11.920 on e bikes and e scooters. Do you think the 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:14.880 many benefits of e bikes and e scooters outweigh the 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:19.280 problems Have you personally had any problems with them on footpaths. 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:23.360 Should there be limits on how fast these vehicles can travel? 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:27.560 Would a licensing of users or registration of e bikes 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:30.840 and e scooters be a good idea? Does the federal 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.080 government have a clear role to play in stemming the 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:35.960 endpoint of e bikes and e scooters that exceed the 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:39.840 legal limits for public use in Australia? Should local government 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:42.960 and road authorities have the power to declare areas where 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:47.520 footpath riding is not permitted. Even though e bikes and 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:51.600 e scooters have many benefits, such as improving urban accessibility 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:55.320 and giving people scope to reduce or even eliminate carbon 0:07:55.360 --> 0:08:00.440 emitting car use, do those examples highlight their associated risks? 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:04.240 What about displaying speed limits for e bikes and e 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:08.280 scooters using radar guns as is already done in Queensland 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:13.080 and issuing fines We're appropriate Your thoughts on the current 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:16.200 debate about e bikes and e scooters and their place 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:29.920 in the community one three, one eight seven three And 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:33.360 because we got peewee coming up, I thought we should 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:33.720 play this. 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:37.480 When I was a little boy, my daddy used to 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:38.160 see it on me. 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:44.320 So we got a lot of bigger plans and a 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:51.880 lot of hard work to be done. Go get your marbles, 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:55.800 put them in the house, tear down your castles in 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:59.280 the sand, Come with your pappy. 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:00.960 Two of the match. 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.199 Gettle little dirt on your hands. 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:10.040 Get a little dirt on your hands, boy, get a 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:12.000 little dirt on your hand. 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:15.760 If you want to crow up to be a big 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:16.720 big man. 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:19.080 You gotta get a little dirt. 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:20.839 On your hands. 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:24.440 Tr to get a little dirt on your hand. 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:35.360 Oh well, I got to be twenty, and I thought 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:41.480 I was a pretty big wee. Left the country for 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:48.520 the city. Made a sticker with a shade, he said, 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:53.439 A hold of the tavern, drinkle the money, Run as 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:57.960 fast as you can. If you gonna get along in 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.640 this big, bad world, gotta. 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:04.920 Kid a little there on your hand, Get. 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:09.720 A little there on your hands, or get a little there. 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:10.640 On your hand. 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:16.360 Gonna crun up to be a big big man, you gotta. 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.440 Get a little there on your hand. 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:23.120 You gotta get a little dirt on your hand. 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:32.800 Well, now it's four in the. 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:35.800 Water and the warden is calling my name. 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:42.479 Say he's teaching me a list and gonna send me after. 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:43.840 Work in the head. 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:51.880 Dig that ditch, boy, Chop that cold I gotta make 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:53.240 you understand. 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:58.439 Only way to straighten out a guy like you. 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:11.120 Is to get a little. But if you're going a 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:13.599 ground up to be a big, big. 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:16.880 Man, you gotta little on your head. 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:23.240 You gotta get a little. You gotta get a little. 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:26.240 There you got. 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:33.199 You, Tony, Welcome to the show. 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:38.360 Evening, Bill good I can I just say, can I 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.600 just say this, but the Iran and Iran American Israel 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:45.679 going toward each other, I just say Trump and then 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:49.800 you know they're a disgrace. They are. They are disgrace, 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:53.960 biggest warmongers. But I'm not here to try. I'm not 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:57.720 here to try and defend a round. But they're not aggressive. 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:01.440 An Run didn't attack anyone. And there's no there's no 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.920 actual proof that that's actually built, built it built any 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:09.920 nuclear weapons. What American and Israel doing, it's an illegal 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:13.800 act of aggression. If we're if you're Russia or China 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:17.480 invading another country, well, well we'd be calling it out. 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:20.000 The West would be calling it out. The West should 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.040 be calling out what Israel in America are doing. 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:24.280 So what's your solution? 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:30.600 Well, Bill, you remember remember when Obama and you Run 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:36.200 had that deal back ten years ago. Where if where 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:40.200 you run drops drops the nuclear program in the West, 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:44.480 stop Storb sanctions. We need to bring that back. Trumps 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:46.480 scraped the whole thing. Look where we are now? 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.280 Good point god Listian. Thanks for your call, Tony. 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:53.320 Bill Gruz on Sunday night. 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:02.439 Hi Steve, Welcome to the show mate. 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:12.760 Yeah there you going look more take on it is this. Look, 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:18.679 I'm a peaceful guy and I want place in the 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:21.840 wall as everyone else does. There's you know, there's there's 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:27.480 it's just a but the thing is, when you've got 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:31.760 a religious group of not cases that want to just 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:36.360 kill everyone else, you've got to take them out, you know, 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:40.960 a blame Trump for doing that. You can't because because 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.959 you know, they aren't predictable. Where there's there doesn't do 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:49.920 because there's the hate in the you know, this has 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.360 been having for a long time, the hate in them 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:58.040 in their heads has been just jeweled into for thousands 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:03.160 of years, and you can't. There's no way of stopping him, 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:05.880 and there's no way of being able to control it 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:10.760 unless you you've got to, you know, you know, not 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:14.480 work them to have the power to do. You know, 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.480 the Jewish people have got a tiny little bit of land. 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:22.240 But the really I think it's about quarter the thoughts 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:26.920 of Tasmania and they're not doing anything to anyone, you know. 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:36.240 Yeah, yeah, The point though these isn't it. I can't 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:40.120 work out why they want to enricheranium to sixty percent 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:43.040 when it's way beyond if they keep saying, no, we're 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:45.800 not doing it for to set to make a bomb. 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:49.440 But you wouldn't need stuff that that strong to do 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:52.160 things like that, you know, if you weren't going to 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:52.760 make a bomb. 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:56.920 So what are you What you're saying is is the 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:00.480 r N needs need to be hit. No. 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:03.200 What I'm saying is I don't think they were telling 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:07.040 the truth. For one thing, I don't I might be 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:10.880 wrong about that. And the other thing is that it's 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:15.560 it's yeah, like if they're not telling the truth, how 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:18.120 do you really know what's going on? I heard this 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:21.600 stuff today that they're really into protecting the regime and 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:24.760 make sure it stays, you know, make sure the regime 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:28.720 keeps going well, and that that could be done by 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:32.440 just dragging out and dragging out and saying, well, one 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:34.520 day we may have a bomb or something like that. 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:40.360 But it's difficult to know, and do you let people 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:44.920 who are a threat have a bomb because they've been 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:49.080 doing things like helping Russia and Ukraine and all of that. 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:51.400 So it's not a not a good look, is it. 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:55.360 Well it's tough a little bit. I mean we've got 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:59.040 to you know, and I think I think Trump's done 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:01.520 the right is just take it out and then get 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:05.240 and get rid of the threat. You know, you can't 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:10.480 have that that sort of you know, Americas, you know, 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:16.200 as much as people don't like America and what reasons 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:19.000 why I don't want America, but but you know, they've 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:23.240 been pretty peaceful nation. I don't go around, you know, 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:26.160 doing stuff to other people, you know where where where. 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:31.560 We're pretty secular, even in Australia. But we've got to 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:36.040 we were you know, when there's a bully and there's 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:39.520 a threat, and there's in these people that have have 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:45.320 mindless you know this this this will. 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:50.880 It's scary, isn't it. And in lots of ways this 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.960 will either be a master stroke a Trump or a mistake, 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:56.240 wen't it. We won't know for a while. 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:01.920 We won't but you know, look, I'll just running up 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.920 Bill because you know, I just prefer you did that 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:08.080 that he didn't. If you know what I mean. 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:14.040 Good mate, thanks for your call. Simon. Hello, Hello, Simon. 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:20.760 Good a Reverend Cruse. Interest in regards to the mopeds 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:24.080 or the scooters, Yes, I think they should keep him, 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:30.520 but make sure they were a helmet, otherwise severe penalty. 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:34.720 While the city's highly populated, it's it's quite handy to 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:35.280 have a scooter. 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:35.960 I would have thought. 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:36.360 Yeah. 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:41.120 And the bigger picture for me, Reverend Cruise, is high 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:44.359 speed rail out of the country areas get You know, 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:47.159 the government won't spend the money because they don't have it, 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:50.600 but I think it's something to be looked at down 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:51.000 the track. 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:54.000 Well, I know there are groups looking at it. There's 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:57.560 there's a group been looking at Melbourne to Brisbane sort 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:01.640 of thing and where it would go. But it'll cost 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:02.760 billions of dollars. 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:03.040 You know. 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:07.720 They spend a lot of billions on other things, Reuben, They. 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:10.840 Sure do, mate. I can think of a few maybe 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:14.720 maybe not subs. You know we could do some of 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:18.359 it with that, couldn't we. God God bless your Simon. 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:21.720 But you think about the helmets, is right? I think 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:26.040 everybody on something made her eyes like that. Everybody should 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:29.080 have a helmet because it's just too dangerous and and 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:32.439 all the poor people working upon the footpath they need 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.040 to be safe too. I'd hate it that people walking 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:37.920 on the footpath wud have to have helmets. But the 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:40.159 way that things are going, you never know, do you. 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:41.920 God bless you and thanks for your call. 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:42.280 Mate. 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:57.080 You probably heard the only Shedy, the co founder and 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:00.920 CEO of care Leavers of Australia Network, many times over 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:04.920 the years talking about the wonderful worker organization does to 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:08.800 highlight the plight of children who were neglected or abused 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:13.400 while in institutional care. And clan is about to celebrate 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:17.399 twenty five years of service. So I've got over on 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:21.320 the line, haven't I. Welcome to the program and congratulations 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:22.840 on twenty five years Leoni. 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:27.560 Thanks Bill, and you're very central to this story because 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:32.200 you gave us two workers twenty five years ago and 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:37.480 you allowed us to hold our first public meeting for 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:42.119 state wards and home children at the time, and you know, 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:46.400 we only had twenty two members, you know, the day 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:49.840 before that meeting, and then three hundred and fifty people 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:51.679 attended that first meeting. 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:53.800 The church was full, Yes. 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:58.520 It certainly was. They came from Cannes, Melbourne, Woollongong, all 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:02.760 over New South Wales. Some people couldn't walk in your building, 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:08.000 you know, Bill, I think you're aware of that because yes, 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:11.359 because it was a church and they'd been so badly 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:15.960 harmed by the churches of this country and they refuse 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:18.399 to walk in there. So are very angry at us. 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:20.800 So tell us about plan and the work you do 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:22.520 so clan. 0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:27.840 You know, we publish a newsletter every month. We help 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:32.160 with finding families. We help with getting access to records 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:36.919 from the home they were in or the home records 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:40.200 plus the government state ward files. People don't know that 0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:44.280 there's two lots of records. We help with having socials 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:48.720 all around Australia. We help everybody, you know. We don't 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:50.760 care the color of your eyes. If you grew up 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:55.560 in an orphanage, children's home, mission or foster care, you're welcome. 0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:59.720 But we do we have to have a limit because 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:03.960 we don't get any funding for the post nineteen nineties. 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:07.399 This was established for older care leavers who have been 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:12.080 left unsupported all their lives. We do assist those younger ones, 0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:15.600 but we have to have a limit of counseling sessions 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:19.399 for them because we don't receive any government funding, and 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:23.320 there's nobody helping those people that slip through the crack. 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:27.080 There were tens of thousands, when't they off Australians placed 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:30.919 in state and religious and charity run orphanages last century 0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:32.760 and halfway through this one. 0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:37.199 Well, the Senate Inquiry who did a report into children 0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:42.080 in institutional care State there were five hundred thousand Australians 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:46.440 who were raised in the nine hundred plus orphanages, children's homes, 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:53.000 missions reformatories, training ships, training schools. We don't really know 0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:55.040 how many. We really don't. 0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:57.959 And overall they were abusive, weren't they? 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:01.199 They were not a n nice place to grow up 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:02.680 in separate. 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:06.840 I can't understand that. You know, you're thinking to be kind. 0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:09.680 People, wouldn't you, Well, you would think that, and there 0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:12.639 were some kind people that we have to acknowledge that. 0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:16.000 But you know, the kind people didn't last very long 0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:20.760 in the orphanages because they were the procedures and policies 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:25.080 were so restrictive that people could people couldn't work under 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:28.880 those conditions. And many people I've met in twenty five 0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:31.119 years people have told me, oh, my sister worked in 0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:33.920 a children's home, but she had a breakdown because what 0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:35.119 they were doing to the children. 0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:35.800 She had to leave. 0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:39.399 Now you were one, tell us about your experience. 0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:44.000 I'm one of seven Sheedy children, and we went to 0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:48.400 a total of twenty six Victorian orphanages and children's homes, 0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:53.159 and that doesn't count the number of holiday house that 0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:56.400 we were farmed out to. You know, one day, I remember, 0:22:57.040 --> 0:22:59.040 I've just put this all together, the bill, this is 0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:02.200 just a bit personal. Well, one day on a Saint 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:04.840 Catherine's re union, I was in an orphanage, Catholic orphanage 0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:07.320 in Geelong, and the nun said to me, go over 0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:10.040 there and speak to your sister. I said, I don't 0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:12.879 have a sister here. She said, yes, you do, go 0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:14.639 over and say hello to your sister. I said, I 0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:17.520 don't have a sister here. She'd go over and say 0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:22.960 hello to your sister, Kathleen. I went over to this woman, Hello, Hello. 0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:26.560 I can't really remember. And that was the first and 0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:28.760 only time I saw her, and was on the twenty 0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:33.120 sixth of April nineteen sixty four. And the reason why 0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:35.520 I said, I've only put it together, Why did I 0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:40.240 answer that none like that? Well, because I did have 0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:43.800 sisters at Saint Catherine's but they had left, you know, 0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:46.520 prior to this other sister coming along and meeting me, 0:23:47.040 --> 0:23:49.720 my sisters had left and I was the only sheedy 0:23:49.800 --> 0:23:53.119 girl there. And so that's why I said to the nun, 0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:57.480 I don't have a sister here. But I only just thought, 0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:01.800 why did I answer her like that? And so that's sister. 0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:04.600 I've never saw her again. She's dead and. 0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:10.960 You know this is this is her real Now. On 0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:14.480 the Sister of July, you're having a special celebration of 0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:18.320 twenty five years of care Leavers Australia's network. What do 0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:19.160 you got planned? 0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:24.760 Well, we've got lawyers coming to tell people how they 0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:28.880 can get justice. We've got the National Redress Scheme from 0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:34.399 Camper coming, and we've got some people from the New 0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:38.960 South Wales hopefully the government coming. We've got Tanya Pleas, 0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:43.760 a big she she's now the Minister responsible for Social 0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:50.240 Services and Redress. She's attending. We've got Joanna speaking, Joanna Penglaize. 0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:53.679 We've got Jim Goddard, who is the chair of our 0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:59.440 sister organization, care Leavers Association in Manchester coming, Jim Ludy, 0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:03.639 our past president, Frank Golding, Joanna and we're launching a 0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:08.639 book called Meta Clanny and that's the personal stories of 0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:13.760 We've gathered those stories of careleavers who have literacy problems 0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:18.239 and we would interview them and write their stories up 0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:21.240 and that book is going to be very important. So 0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:24.480 we're launching that book. We've got a speaker on the 0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:29.480 Australian Orphanage Museum and we're hoping the Prime Minister will come. 0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:32.560 How do people find out about it? How do we 0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:33.560 get more information? 0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:39.040 They can go to Clan's website orw dot ww dot 0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:42.960 Clan cla n dot org dot au or go to 0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:47.800 ring the office on one eight hundred eight seven seventy 0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:52.040 four Bill the Prime. I was asked by my Federal 0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:55.720 member Richard marsh is a patron of clan and he 0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:58.520 said to me, Leoni is a Prime Minister of Australia. 0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:01.600 Ever come to a plan of I said no, never. 0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:03.359 He said, let's see what. 0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:03.960 We can do. 0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:07.080 Let's see what we can do. God bless you Leone 0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:08.959 and thanks for talking to us tonight. 0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:10.280 My pleasure. 0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:12.440 Thank you and you're going to be there, aren't you? 0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:12.880 Yep? 0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:22.440 Ruth is Leone's story your story? You ring me one 0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:23.960 three one eight seven three. 0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:28.120 You're listening to Sunday Night Crews. 0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:39.760 The malaboom. 0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:47.520 Ian. Pe Weee Wilson is the founding member of the Deltones. 0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:50.600