WEBVTT - Five strategies to help prepare your finances for 2023

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<v S1>Hello and welcome to It All ends up the podcast

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<v S1>where we chat about money, how to get it, how

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<v S1>to spend it and how to invest it. I'm money

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<v S1>editor Dom.

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<v S2>Powell, and I'm senior economics writer Jess Irvine, and this

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<v S2>is our final episode of the year. Dom I can't

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<v S2>believe we've actually this is our 17th episode. Time flies

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<v S2>when you're having fun.

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<v S1>17 It feels a bit like I feel that we

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<v S1>should have finished it on a round number. Obviously we

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<v S1>didn't plan this very well, but 17 just feels like it's,

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<v S1>it just sort of irks me a bit. But seven

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<v S1>it's a lot. We did a lot of episodes.

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<v S2>It's a bit random, but yes. No, there's been some

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<v S2>excellent if I do say so myself. Episodes that we produced.

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<v S2>Did you have a favorite so far?

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<v S1>I think my favorite was the one we did on Hacks.

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<v S1>I really enjoyed doing that one. If you have a

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<v S1>listen to it, go back and listen to it. But

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<v S1>I think it's just sort of one of those things

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<v S1>that we're in a very unique sort of situation where

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<v S1>inflation really does matter if you hexed it. So talking

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<v S1>about it, thinking about it, I think is really important.

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<v S2>Yeah, my favorite one we've done so far was on

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<v S2>pay rises and I think it's a sensitive topic for

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<v S2>a lot of people. Nobody wants to ask, but it's

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<v S2>just so important that you ask in the New year.

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<v S2>And we're taking a little break, but we're going to

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<v S2>replay over the summer some of our best hits, including

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<v S2>the next one and including the pay rises ones. So

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<v S2>you will still be getting little snippets from us dropping

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<v S2>into your podcast feeds in the coming weeks ahead while

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<v S2>you're sunning yourselves at the beach, hopefully. And yeah, we're

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<v S2>looking forward to reading some of those for you.

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<v S1>Yeah, it's sort of sort of like a greatest hits,

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<v S1>you know, those so fresh CD's that everyone used to

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<v S1>get back in the day. It's like a so fresh

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<v S1>hits of hits of this podcast. 2022.

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<v S2>Yeah, it's probably a bit premature for our greatest hits

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<v S2>of all time. I don't think we've been going on.

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<v S1>No, no, I think it's fun. I think it's all right.

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<v S1>I think bands, bands are a great asset album for

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<v S1>being around for like, you know, five years. So. All right,

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<v S1>we're getting that this week. We're rounding off 2022 with

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<v S1>some advice to get you prepared for next year and

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<v S1>thinking about what it sort of means to sort of have,

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<v S1>you know, to be financially successful or maybe not even successful,

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<v S1>just sort of financially stable in in 2023. And just

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<v S1>what does that what does that mean to you when

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<v S1>it sounds what does that sort of concept look like

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<v S1>when we're going into the new year?

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<v S2>Yeah, I mean, many people would think that's having a

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<v S2>lot of money to be financially successful. I just need

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<v S2>to have quite a lot of money. But for me,

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<v S2>it's sort of just I mean, it's something that has

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<v S2>evolved in my own life over the last couple of years,

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<v S2>but just having a sense of being in financial control

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<v S2>and actually when they do sort of studies of wellbeing

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<v S2>next to, you know, having healthy relationships and a sense

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<v S2>of purpose in life, having a sense of being in

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<v S2>control of your money is one of the major predictors

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<v S2>of whether a person is going to feel well or not.

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<v S2>So it's it's really important and, you know, it's going

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<v S2>to be a stressful year for many people. In 2023,

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<v S2>we've got the rising cost of living that is still

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<v S2>going to be an issue. And of course, particularly for

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<v S2>people with mortgages, we're going to be hit in the

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<v S2>face with a lot of rate hikes, particularly if you're

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<v S2>on the fixed interest loans as I am. My fixed

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<v S2>rate expires in June next year. So I will be

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<v S2>confronting a doubling, if not more, in my interest rate

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<v S2>when that happens. So I think I would just like

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<v S2>for people to think through in advance what some of

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<v S2>the issues are going to be around their finances and

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<v S2>try to get ahead of the game a little bit

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<v S2>just so that you feel in control of your finances? Yeah.

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<v S2>What does financial success mean to you, Don?

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<v S1>Yeah, well, I think I'm sort of in the same boat.

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<v S1>I think it's less that around having a big lot

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<v S1>of money, though. Obviously that's nice. But, you know, I

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<v S1>think it's more just about not being concerned or not

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<v S1>being worried or at least minimising your level of concern

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<v S1>of worry, worry about your finances and just sort of

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<v S1>being prepared for the whatever, whatever the world throws at you.

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<v S1>And by by golly, is throwing a bit at us

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<v S1>at the moment. You know, there's, there's a little bit

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<v S1>going on and has been for a while. So I

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<v S1>think I think it's just more that sort of level

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<v S1>of stability that's that's sort of what it what it

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<v S1>means to me. And I think that's what we should

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<v S1>all be aspiring to or hoping to aspire to.

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<v S2>Yeah. And are you and New Year's resolutions sort of person?

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<v S1>Look, not really. I have to say, every now and

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<v S1>again I think about making New Year's resolution. But, you know,

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<v S1>I just sort of I just sort of let it go.

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<v S1>I sort of go with the flow sort of guy.

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<v S3>You know.

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<v S2>This is the year into my yang, which.

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<v S3>Is that I have rigorously.

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<v S2>Since I started writing at the Herald, I think been

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<v S2>set setting myself New Year's resolutions. I once had a

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<v S2>New Year's resolution that I was going to save a

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<v S2>dollar for every for every dollar that I spent or something.

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<v S2>I was going to do a minute's exercise or something.

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<v S2>I have a sort of dual purpose to sort of

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<v S2>have health and money related.

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<v S3>So that's what that.

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<v S1>Seems to say to.

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<v S3>Me, like.

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<v S2>It was some sort of motivation to get me to

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<v S2>exercise or something.

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<v S3>It didn't like that. That was that would be.

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<v S1>So many minutes of exercise. Like, obviously that's great if

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<v S1>you could do that, that's amazing. But like, say your

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<v S1>mortgage is like, you know, two grand or something. That's 2000.

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<v S1>It's an exercise.

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<v S3>Well, I mean, read.

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<v S2>That over a month. I don't know.

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<v S3>Yeah.

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<v S1>Then read everything else on top of that that you spent.

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<v S3>I don't know. It was.

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<v S1>It sounded admirable, Jess, but I think. I think that

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<v S1>might have been a bit far fetched.

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<v S2>Over the decades, that's evolved to this year, My financial

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<v S2>resolution was just to track every dollar that I spent,

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<v S2>and I did that. So. And that is actually something

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<v S2>I've embedded into my lifestyle, is just to be a

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<v S2>tracker of where my money is going. And that's actually

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<v S2>my number one strategy. And thank you for indulging me

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<v S2>and letting me kick off with this one as our

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<v S2>strategies for people, because I think a lot of people

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<v S2>would take that is to Mickey Mouse. I'm beyond that.

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<v S2>I don't have time for that. I don't want to

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<v S2>do that. But I am. Having said that, I'm just

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<v S2>surprised since I've been writing about tracking my spending, the

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<v S2>number of people and readers and listeners who contact me go, Yeah,

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<v S2>I've kept a spreadsheet of every dollar I've spent since 1974.

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<v S2>You know, for some of our older listeners, it's actually

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<v S2>something that is quite common to do. And if you

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<v S2>are feeling scared or worried about your finances for 2023,

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<v S2>just one really simple practical thing you can do is

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<v S2>to start to pay closer attention to where your money

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<v S2>is going. I have my own spending tracker that I use.

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<v S2>You can find that through my Instagram money with Jess

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<v S2>play along at home with. Exactly. I just have a

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<v S2>sheet of paper and I write down coffee for dollars.

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<v S2>You know, the utility bill for water, which is quarterly,

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<v S2>you know, $250. And I track everything. So I have

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<v S2>that visibility about where my money is going, and that

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<v S2>helps me to plan for where I want to go.

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<v S2>And that's been an absolute revelation for me in my life.

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<v S2>And that has given me that sense of control that

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<v S2>I think a lot of people are going to be

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<v S2>looking for in the year ahead because things are moving

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<v S2>quickly and you're going to really need to be reviewing

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<v S2>a lot of your expenses to see if you can

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<v S2>keep up, you know, with the mortgage or whether it's

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<v S2>the rent going up. And, you know, I would just

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<v S2>like to be the person in the world who normalizes

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<v S2>that and just to go, yeah, it can be as

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<v S2>simple as track your spending, find out where your money

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<v S2>is going. And lots of us are doing it. Not Don. No.

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<v S1>No. Here's the thing and again on the into to

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<v S1>Jess's yang on the on the guy this is out

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<v S1>here and it's not not budgeting at all it's like

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<v S1>shooting from the hip. Yeah I look it's great because

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<v S1>it means that we get to see both sides of

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<v S1>the coin. But I mean, that being said, I lived

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<v S1>this way. It may not be the best way to live.

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<v S1>I'm sure it's probably better of you if you do

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<v S1>actually think about things and plan and budget things a

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<v S1>bit more than I do. I think that Jess's strategies

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<v S1>are well-worn and and seem quite, quite good. So, you know. Yeah.

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<v S2>And you don't seem particularly stressed about your money either.

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<v S2>I think it's sort of if anyone is feeling that

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<v S2>agitation and fear, it's sort of an exposure therapy thing

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<v S2>about just a way to steer your money in the

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<v S2>face of sort of if it's scaring you. Take a

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<v S2>little look.

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<v S1>Absolutely. And I think that sort of brings us to

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<v S1>the our second tip, which is sort of around thinking

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<v S1>about the things that are coming up this year, namely refinancing,

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<v S1>because obviously, as just mentioned, there's going to be a

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<v S1>lot of people coming from fixed interest rates to, you know,

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<v S1>probably onto a variable rate, which is going to be

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<v S1>likely to be a lot higher than their fixed rate.

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<v S1>So that will be sort of a cascading effect for

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<v S1>a lot of people. There's this sort of talk of

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<v S1>this fixed interest rate cliff, which we are approaching and

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<v S1>will approach in 2023. So I think the best idea

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<v S1>for that for anyone that's sort of in that boat

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<v S1>is just to get ahead of it and really think

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<v S1>about it well in advance, probably at least two months

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<v S1>before your fixed period expires and have a bit of

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<v S1>a look around and all those there's many, many, many

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<v S1>comparison websites where you can sort of look at the

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<v S1>best deals and the best offers and think about what

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<v S1>sort of variable rate you're going to move on to

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<v S1>and what sort of benefits you can get. Like, you know,

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<v S1>there always there are always people out there offering big

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<v S1>packages of cash. Cashback offers a very popular and have

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<v S1>become increasingly more popular as lenders have been sort of

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<v S1>fighting for for people's money in people's business. So definitely

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<v S1>some things to look in the into the just.

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<v S2>Yeah and one of the trends that seems to be

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<v S2>becoming entrenched and I think will continue for 2023 is

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<v S2>the banks are sort of not too backwards in coming

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<v S2>forward and saying, you know, they are offering lower interest

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<v S2>rates to attract new customers. So the new customer variable

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<v S2>rates are lower than the existing customer variable rates. You know,

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<v S2>the incentive, they are trying to steal customers from each other.

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<v S2>And if you can put yourself through the effort of

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<v S2>refinancing and it can be a bit of can be

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<v S2>a bit of a hassle depending on how complex your

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<v S2>situation is. But there will be cheaper rates for new customers.

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<v S2>And the best way to get them is to become

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<v S2>a new customer. I, I have a sort of I

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<v S2>don't endorse anyone, but I do like to look at

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<v S2>there's an online only lender called Tick tock not tick

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<v S2>tock the queue for the kids, which I'm on by

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<v S2>the way but TikTok and I was just check what

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<v S2>they're variable rate they've got a 4.61% comparison rate offer

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<v S2>with with a mortgage offset and I. Like to check in.

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<v S2>So if you're sitting there and your mortgage rate is

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<v S2>already at a five plus, do just know that there's

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<v S2>probably some cheaper rates for you. Another one that came

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<v S2>up I looked on right city dot com Heritage bank

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<v S2>was offering 4.69% going into Christmas plus the $3,000 cash

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<v S2>back not endorsing any of those but just to let

0:10:23.910 --> 0:10:26.459
<v S2>you know there's banks this heaps of lenders out there

0:10:26.460 --> 0:10:28.829
<v S2>and probably ones you've never heard of before and this

0:10:28.830 --> 0:10:32.640
<v S2>is the time to go looking for for a better deal.

0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:35.040
<v S2>And with a note that some people are going to

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<v S2>find that difficult because they will have seen the equity

0:10:38.100 --> 0:10:41.130
<v S2>that they have in their home decline with house prices.

0:10:41.140 --> 0:10:44.850
<v S2>So if you've gone over that 80%, Elvia, because house

0:10:44.850 --> 0:10:47.610
<v S2>prices have come down, it may be more difficult for

0:10:47.610 --> 0:10:49.800
<v S2>you to refinance because you might be paying Lynda's mortgage

0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:52.559
<v S2>insurance when you do. So for people who are sort

0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:55.560
<v S2>of in that situation are stuck. The best piece of

0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:57.750
<v S2>advice I can offer you is if you're negotiating with

0:10:57.750 --> 0:11:00.929
<v S2>your current lender, just ring them up and say, you know,

0:11:00.929 --> 0:11:03.510
<v S2>don't mention about the LVR stuff because they wouldn't figure

0:11:03.510 --> 0:11:06.720
<v S2>that out until the sort of mortgage application process where

0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.360
<v S2>they would value your property just sort of come in

0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.059
<v S2>strong and ask for a mortgage discharge form, which is

0:11:12.059 --> 0:11:14.820
<v S2>the magic words these days. That's the form that tells

0:11:14.820 --> 0:11:17.460
<v S2>them that you're very serious about switching to another bank

0:11:18.390 --> 0:11:20.339
<v S2>and see how you go with that. But it is

0:11:20.340 --> 0:11:23.190
<v S2>going to be more difficult for people who who've recently

0:11:23.190 --> 0:11:25.709
<v S2>bought and the value of their property has come down.

0:11:25.710 --> 0:11:29.280
<v S2>So they haven't quite got as much equity. So refinancing

0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:31.140
<v S2>is going to be difficult, but yet about two months

0:11:31.140 --> 0:11:32.939
<v S2>out from when you fix is ending, that's when you

0:11:32.940 --> 0:11:36.540
<v S2>want to be thinking in 2023 about refinancing.

0:11:36.990 --> 0:11:38.790
<v S1>Yeah, you've got to scare those banks, you know.

0:11:39.510 --> 0:11:41.100
<v S2>You've got to play the game, but you know, keep.

0:11:41.100 --> 0:11:43.170
<v S1>Them on their toes. They keep us on their on

0:11:43.170 --> 0:11:46.290
<v S1>our toes. So, you know, you should. Yeah. Yeah. Like he's,

0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:48.780
<v S1>he's sort of scary. You call them often like, oh,

0:11:48.870 --> 0:11:51.719
<v S1>when a malicious judge, when you know, who knows what'll happen.

0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:53.309
<v S1>Maybe they'll offer you a big fat wad of cash

0:11:53.309 --> 0:11:55.020
<v S1>to to stay that happen to my sister and she

0:11:55.020 --> 0:11:57.180
<v S1>ended up staying with the lender that she was already with. So.

0:11:57.630 --> 0:12:00.870
<v S2>You know, getting cash back to stay with your existing lender.

0:12:00.900 --> 0:12:03.840
<v S1>It's insane. Like they just so desperate to keep people

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<v S1>on the books that they will they will go to

0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:08.880
<v S1>the ends of the earth. Well, not quite. But, you know,

0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:10.290
<v S1>they will do a lot to keep you around. So

0:12:10.290 --> 0:12:12.089
<v S1>it's definitely worth milking that.

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<v S2>Yes. Ask number three strategy for 2023 is to review

0:12:18.540 --> 0:12:21.570
<v S2>your insurances. And people ask me like, oh, yes, I

0:12:21.570 --> 0:12:23.640
<v S2>need to save some money because interest rates are going up.

0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:26.610
<v S2>And I say review your insurances. And they say, what

0:12:26.610 --> 0:12:30.569
<v S2>about another tip? Because that sounds really boring, but this

0:12:30.570 --> 0:12:32.850
<v S2>is actually a great time of year. We've got a

0:12:32.850 --> 0:12:35.580
<v S2>little bit more time on our hands, you know, do

0:12:35.580 --> 0:12:37.080
<v S2>spend a lot of time at the beach. But if

0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:40.170
<v S2>you've got an extra hour or so to call up

0:12:40.170 --> 0:12:44.220
<v S2>your insurance company. So I'm thinking your car insurance, your

0:12:44.220 --> 0:12:47.969
<v S2>home insurance, your health insurance, and then if you've got

0:12:47.970 --> 0:12:51.600
<v S2>any forms of the life insurance TPD and sort of

0:12:51.630 --> 0:12:55.680
<v S2>income protection insurance, make sure that you know at least

0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:59.190
<v S2>what you are and are not covered for. And know

0:12:59.190 --> 0:13:01.380
<v S2>that if you do sort of scale back some of

0:13:01.380 --> 0:13:04.319
<v S2>the coverage in ways that you're comfortable with that will

0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:07.679
<v S2>reduce your premiums. So just having a look at each

0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:10.470
<v S2>of those insurance policies, you know, reading some of the

0:13:10.470 --> 0:13:13.469
<v S2>finer details because, you know, we talk about, you know,

0:13:13.470 --> 0:13:17.339
<v S2>don't drink coffee or don't, you know, your Netflix subscription.

0:13:17.580 --> 0:13:19.200
<v S2>But if you want to save sort of in the

0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:23.910
<v S2>tens to hundreds of dollars per year, your insurance contracts

0:13:23.910 --> 0:13:26.760
<v S2>are one of the best places to start for some

0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.280
<v S2>of the more substantial savings. So you might be able

0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:32.219
<v S2>to keep your coffee and, you know, keep your Netflix

0:13:32.220 --> 0:13:35.790
<v S2>if you sort of maybe look at your car insurance and,

0:13:35.790 --> 0:13:39.449
<v S2>you know, increase the excess on that perhaps, which is

0:13:39.450 --> 0:13:42.510
<v S2>a strategy I love, which means you're more exposed to

0:13:42.510 --> 0:13:44.790
<v S2>paying the higher excess out-of-pocket in the event that you

0:13:44.790 --> 0:13:47.340
<v S2>do make a claim, but it makes your premiums cheaper.

0:13:47.340 --> 0:13:49.470
<v S2>So particularly if you're someone with a bit of cash

0:13:49.470 --> 0:13:52.350
<v S2>set aside to cover, you know, a rainy day expense

0:13:52.350 --> 0:13:55.560
<v S2>like that, and you can afford to pay the higher

0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.110
<v S2>excesses that's going to save you. It's going to help

0:13:58.110 --> 0:14:02.220
<v S2>your cash flow in the in the immediate term. So

0:14:02.220 --> 0:14:04.829
<v S2>that can be a really great strategy for saving, I reckon.

0:14:04.830 --> 0:14:06.600
<v S1>And again, look, you could even do this while you're

0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:09.270
<v S1>at the beach. Pick up the phone and just give

0:14:09.270 --> 0:14:11.430
<v S1>them a call. Get on the blower, go talk to

0:14:11.429 --> 0:14:13.199
<v S1>your insurer and see what they'll offer you and see

0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:15.960
<v S1>what they'll do for you. Because again, everyone's everyone's in

0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:17.460
<v S1>the same sort of boat and there's deals out there

0:14:17.460 --> 0:14:19.890
<v S1>that you can get that may not be immediately obvious.

0:14:19.890 --> 0:14:24.600
<v S1>So getting on the phone underrated I'd say in in 2022. Yeah.

0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.510
<v S2>And legit to say I don't have enough money. I'm

0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:30.360
<v S2>feeling the cost of living pressure and just come at

0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:32.970
<v S2>it fairly directly and I think that's totally fine. There's

0:14:32.970 --> 0:14:35.820
<v S2>no shame in that. We're all feeling that go go

0:14:35.820 --> 0:14:38.010
<v S2>for it and just haven't got the money to afford this.

0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.020
<v S2>How can I make this cheaper? And they might come

0:14:40.020 --> 0:14:42.750
<v S2>up with some strategies for you or just a better deal.

0:14:43.020 --> 0:14:46.560
<v S1>Yeah, absolutely. And my, my fourth tip is sort of

0:14:46.890 --> 0:14:48.989
<v S1>a bit of a crusade I've been on during the

0:14:48.990 --> 0:14:51.750
<v S1>course of these 17 podcast episodes, which is making life

0:14:51.750 --> 0:14:56.640
<v S1>easier for yourself through technology and other things. I've said

0:14:56.640 --> 0:15:00.480
<v S1>this a number of times. Regular listeners will know this.

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<v S1>I have like a bank app I'm with like a

0:15:02.940 --> 0:15:06.330
<v S1>new fangled digital bank. It's. It's made banking is made

0:15:06.330 --> 0:15:09.840
<v S1>my finances like far, far easier. And I know that

0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:12.060
<v S1>there are people out there who are still sort of with,

0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:14.610
<v S1>you know, that whatever bank they've been with for 30

0:15:14.610 --> 0:15:18.240
<v S1>years and their parents or whatever. It's not that hard

0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:20.610
<v S1>to switch banks. It's really not that hard. You have

0:15:20.610 --> 0:15:22.080
<v S1>to it does take a little bit of a bit

0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:25.410
<v S1>of time, but it is worth doing because sometimes this

0:15:25.530 --> 0:15:28.230
<v S1>the quality of life that you will get from a

0:15:28.230 --> 0:15:31.110
<v S1>newer bank or perhaps a different bank with some sort

0:15:31.110 --> 0:15:33.359
<v S1>of newer technology, like there's loads of them out there.

0:15:34.140 --> 0:15:37.109
<v S1>It's just it's just so good. It's so good.

0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:40.380
<v S2>This happened with my super fund recently. I switched super

0:15:40.380 --> 0:15:43.440
<v S2>funds and I didn't realize what I was missing out

0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:45.390
<v S2>because the new fund has like an app where I

0:15:45.390 --> 0:15:47.280
<v S2>can check my balance. I used to have to log

0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:49.980
<v S2>in through a web browser and see in it, and

0:15:49.980 --> 0:15:53.010
<v S2>it tells me and maps my, you know, past contributions.

0:15:53.010 --> 0:15:54.240
<v S2>And it's just a lot better.

0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:56.010
<v S3>Yeah, absolutely. And this is you.

0:15:56.010 --> 0:15:59.250
<v S2>Don't know until you switch and see what else is around.

0:15:59.340 --> 0:16:01.470
<v S1>And this is happening across the board, like I'm talking

0:16:01.470 --> 0:16:03.900
<v S1>about the bank banking app because obviously I use it

0:16:03.900 --> 0:16:05.550
<v S1>every day and it's very front of mind. But like

0:16:05.820 --> 0:16:09.600
<v S1>pretty much every single thing that may like, you know,

0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:11.400
<v S1>look at anything in your life that you may have

0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:13.350
<v S1>been using for a very long time or been with

0:16:13.350 --> 0:16:16.530
<v S1>for ages. And just think about ways that maybe, oh,

0:16:16.530 --> 0:16:17.880
<v S1>maybe there's a better way to do this, or maybe

0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:19.530
<v S1>there's a new way to do this, especially with something

0:16:19.530 --> 0:16:22.110
<v S1>to do with your finances. Like, it's almost like it's

0:16:22.110 --> 0:16:24.090
<v S1>like disrupting yourself. If we're going to use some real

0:16:24.090 --> 0:16:26.460
<v S1>Silicon Valley sort of, you know, terminology here. But it

0:16:26.460 --> 0:16:29.400
<v S1>is quite literally just like think about anything where you

0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:31.620
<v S1>might be able to improve your quality of life, because

0:16:31.620 --> 0:16:35.040
<v S1>that's a big part of, you know, finance and and

0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:37.170
<v S1>getting more on top of your finances. If it's easy

0:16:37.170 --> 0:16:38.880
<v S1>to do, you're going to be more likely to do it.

0:16:39.210 --> 0:16:41.970
<v S1>So and and this is like, you know, this can

0:16:41.970 --> 0:16:44.460
<v S1>be as easy as something like, you know, there's apps

0:16:44.460 --> 0:16:47.100
<v S1>that make it easy to split expenses with friends, you know,

0:16:47.100 --> 0:16:50.010
<v S1>or petrol spy, which we've spoken a few times about,

0:16:50.010 --> 0:16:52.170
<v S1>which helps you sort of find all the cheap petrol

0:16:52.170 --> 0:16:54.570
<v S1>around you. Like just little things like that. Like that's

0:16:54.570 --> 0:16:57.000
<v S1>the sort of stuff that's going to make 2023 more

0:16:57.000 --> 0:17:00.570
<v S1>manageable for you because it's just small and incidental but

0:17:00.570 --> 0:17:03.240
<v S1>can actually make a big difference in the long run.

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<v S2>Yeah, I never fill up the tank without checking the

0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:08.940
<v S2>petrol app for in New South Wales, Fuel check is

0:17:08.940 --> 0:17:11.310
<v S2>the one you want and it's just creating those new

0:17:11.609 --> 0:17:14.580
<v S2>behavioural habits for yourself that you know, I'm a person

0:17:14.580 --> 0:17:17.580
<v S2>who checks a petrol price out before I fill up

0:17:17.580 --> 0:17:19.890
<v S2>and you know, it does require new ways of thinking,

0:17:19.890 --> 0:17:23.490
<v S2>particularly if you're not across all the technology, but you know,

0:17:23.700 --> 0:17:25.649
<v S2>it is well worth sort of getting a little bit

0:17:25.650 --> 0:17:28.290
<v S2>uncomfortable by, you know, and another one I like now

0:17:28.290 --> 0:17:33.000
<v S2>using is cashback sites like Shopback Cash Rewards. It's an

0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.250
<v S2>extra step in your life, but one that will make

0:17:35.250 --> 0:17:37.320
<v S2>it a lot better if you can get your head around.

0:17:37.619 --> 0:17:40.169
<v S2>And I just use I bought like ten something that

0:17:40.170 --> 0:17:42.419
<v S2>was $10 and got sort of $0.20 back on a

0:17:42.420 --> 0:17:45.150
<v S2>cashback up. But it's just teaching me. It's a learning

0:17:45.150 --> 0:17:48.810
<v S2>curve of to how I can get those savings and yeah,

0:17:48.869 --> 0:17:51.930
<v S2>but just maybe committing to try one of those new

0:17:51.930 --> 0:17:55.410
<v S2>apps or downloading, you know, the petrol price app in your,

0:17:55.410 --> 0:17:57.960
<v S2>in your state is awesome. It's well worth it.

0:17:58.410 --> 0:18:00.780
<v S1>Yeah. And when in doubt talk to Zuma. Talk to

0:18:00.780 --> 0:18:02.909
<v S1>someone under the age of 25 because they'll have it

0:18:02.910 --> 0:18:04.110
<v S1>all sorted out and no.

0:18:04.170 --> 0:18:05.490
<v S3>Sooner is that.

0:18:05.820 --> 0:18:06.600
<v S1>I think so.

0:18:06.630 --> 0:18:07.379
<v S3>Is that a thing?

0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:09.780
<v S1>Because I like I'm 26. I know I'm right on

0:18:09.780 --> 0:18:12.600
<v S1>the edge of being a part of being a millennial.

0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:15.090
<v S1>And I think the next generation is gen-z or zoomers. So.

0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:16.710
<v S2>Oh, we're calling that Zuma.

0:18:16.910 --> 0:18:17.990
<v S3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:18:19.170 --> 0:18:21.629
<v S1>Exactly. So talk to some it turns out under the

0:18:21.630 --> 0:18:23.659
<v S1>age 25 because they will have it sorted out. They will.

0:18:24.210 --> 0:18:25.560
<v S2>Cost a young person.

0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:29.730
<v S3>On the side. Scuse me, young fellow. How do you

0:18:29.730 --> 0:18:31.020
<v S3>do your finances? Um.

0:18:32.130 --> 0:18:34.440
<v S2>Yeah, the kids, they're pretty savvy. They know what's.

0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:36.330
<v S1>They know what's going on. And like, just as a

0:18:36.330 --> 0:18:38.490
<v S1>final point around this off, this also extends to things

0:18:38.490 --> 0:18:41.520
<v S1>like concessions and rebates, which which we talked about in

0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:42.960
<v S1>the past. But there are many of them out there,

0:18:43.530 --> 0:18:47.610
<v S1>and especially with the energy price sort of debacle that's

0:18:47.609 --> 0:18:50.189
<v S1>going on, it looks like there will be more rebates

0:18:50.190 --> 0:18:53.310
<v S1>and concessions available for people next year. So definitely keep

0:18:53.310 --> 0:18:55.440
<v S1>on top of that. And I believe even in Victoria

0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:59.520
<v S1>they have reintroducing the $250 energy rebate for next year

0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:01.800
<v S1>as well. So that's something that Victorians look out for.

0:19:01.980 --> 0:19:05.100
<v S2>And so finally, just number five to say that this

0:19:05.100 --> 0:19:09.090
<v S2>is a really good time to rest and reflect and

0:19:09.090 --> 0:19:13.169
<v S2>think about your goals and reset your thinking. You know,

0:19:13.230 --> 0:19:16.380
<v S2>about many things, but including money. So having some sort

0:19:16.380 --> 0:19:19.380
<v S2>of idea of what you want the New Year to

0:19:19.380 --> 0:19:22.379
<v S2>look for for you, or it could even be as

0:19:22.380 --> 0:19:24.659
<v S2>simple as sort of how do I want to feel

0:19:24.660 --> 0:19:26.970
<v S2>about money in the new year or how do I

0:19:26.970 --> 0:19:30.359
<v S2>currently feel at the end of this year? Probably spend

0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:32.760
<v S2>a bit too much on Christmas or but just being

0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:37.170
<v S2>aware of what sort of relationship you you have with money.

0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:40.859
<v S2>Because I think, you know, going into 2023 is going

0:19:40.859 --> 0:19:44.459
<v S2>to be a more difficult year for people financially. I

0:19:44.460 --> 0:19:48.030
<v S2>think that's fair to say across the board. So having

0:19:48.030 --> 0:19:50.459
<v S2>a little moment to to rest and reflect whether you

0:19:50.460 --> 0:19:53.040
<v S2>actually want to set a New Year's resolution, I'm not

0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:56.490
<v S2>actually not going to set a money related use resolution.

0:19:56.490 --> 0:19:58.380
<v S2>I actually do them by financial year because I love

0:19:58.380 --> 0:20:01.110
<v S2>to have two New Year's every year and it.

0:20:01.109 --> 0:20:02.190
<v S3>Seems more appropriate to think.

0:20:02.190 --> 0:20:03.990
<v S2>About money via financial years.

0:20:03.990 --> 0:20:06.620
<v S1>But that's. Suggesting to do this just.

0:20:06.619 --> 0:20:06.889
<v S3>Like.

0:20:08.180 --> 0:20:09.710
<v S1>Your parody of yourself. Just.

0:20:09.950 --> 0:20:13.460
<v S2>But I do. But these sort of turning points in

0:20:13.460 --> 0:20:16.220
<v S2>the calendar year, I do love to break up time

0:20:16.220 --> 0:20:20.150
<v S2>into sort of nice, easily measurable things. And I think

0:20:20.150 --> 0:20:22.880
<v S2>there is a new year effect where you can sort

0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:24.770
<v S2>of surf it for a little while. Maybe it doesn't

0:20:24.770 --> 0:20:27.350
<v S2>last forever, but at least sort of saying, I want

0:20:27.350 --> 0:20:29.389
<v S2>to have a new relationship with money. I want to

0:20:29.390 --> 0:20:33.050
<v S2>feel better about money in the new Year. What's one

0:20:33.050 --> 0:20:35.210
<v S2>of the one tips I heard on the podcast that

0:20:35.210 --> 0:20:37.250
<v S2>I will commit to in 2023?

0:20:37.430 --> 0:20:40.550
<v S1>Yeah, and I think this year a lot of people

0:20:40.550 --> 0:20:43.070
<v S1>were shocked and were quite surprised by the cost of

0:20:43.070 --> 0:20:46.250
<v S1>living crunch. Obviously war in Ukraine and stuff that sort

0:20:46.250 --> 0:20:48.050
<v S1>of came out of nowhere and people were sort of

0:20:48.050 --> 0:20:50.150
<v S1>a bit unprepared. But I think now that we're in

0:20:50.150 --> 0:20:52.280
<v S1>this environment that we've been in for the past nine

0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:55.160
<v S1>or so months, it makes it a little bit easier

0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:57.080
<v S1>to sort of prepare for it and think about it.

0:20:57.080 --> 0:20:58.970
<v S1>And I think that's what is it's a good time

0:20:58.970 --> 0:21:01.250
<v S1>to do over this sort of sort of end of

0:21:01.250 --> 0:21:04.460
<v S1>year break, obviously, take some time off, have a great time.

0:21:04.460 --> 0:21:07.460
<v S1>You know, enjoy your time with your loved ones. Don't

0:21:07.460 --> 0:21:09.830
<v S1>worry too much about money because that's what Christmas is for.

0:21:10.460 --> 0:21:12.080
<v S1>But then, you know, it is also a great time

0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:15.050
<v S1>to sort of think about, you know, get yourself prepared

0:21:15.050 --> 0:21:19.070
<v S1>for energy bill rises, interest rate rises, all those sort

0:21:19.070 --> 0:21:21.200
<v S1>of terrible things that we're not going to look forward

0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:23.270
<v S1>to at all when they come through next year. But

0:21:23.270 --> 0:21:25.850
<v S1>the more sort of steeled you are for the the

0:21:25.850 --> 0:21:27.379
<v S1>better it will be rather than this year where it

0:21:27.380 --> 0:21:29.840
<v S1>sort of came out of nowhere like a freight train.

0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:31.909
<v S2>Yeah. And I think what's kind of nice about it

0:21:31.910 --> 0:21:34.609
<v S2>is we're all in the same boat. It's actually yeah,

0:21:34.609 --> 0:21:37.370
<v S2>it is across the board, these pressures. We're all going

0:21:37.369 --> 0:21:40.699
<v S2>to be going into 2023 feeling a little bit. A

0:21:40.700 --> 0:21:42.950
<v S2>little bit. I'm a little bit nervous about when my

0:21:42.950 --> 0:21:46.400
<v S2>mortgage interest rate rolls off. Yeah. So just to feel

0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:48.650
<v S2>like you're not alone in it. And it is, it's

0:21:48.650 --> 0:21:50.750
<v S2>something that we are all going to have to pay

0:21:50.750 --> 0:21:53.210
<v S2>a little bit more attention to in the new year.

0:21:53.210 --> 0:21:55.760
<v S2>And yeah, I agree. Everyone have a have a great

0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:59.060
<v S2>break over summer. Hopefully you can get some time off

0:21:59.660 --> 0:22:02.780
<v S2>and we'll be back in 2023 to help everyone with

0:22:02.780 --> 0:22:06.139
<v S2>more financial tips and strategies so you won't be alone

0:22:06.140 --> 0:22:08.240
<v S2>will be will be freaking out right next to you.

0:22:08.510 --> 0:22:12.890
<v S1>Exactly. And for our final listener question of the year,

0:22:13.310 --> 0:22:15.889
<v S1>this one's from Zac, and it is for Jess. So

0:22:15.890 --> 0:22:18.040
<v S1>I'm going to bow out of this one. But I'll, I'll, I'll,

0:22:18.890 --> 0:22:22.940
<v S1>I'll posit, which is about solar panels. So Zach wants

0:22:22.940 --> 0:22:26.000
<v S1>to know how you would invest evaluate solar panels as

0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:29.690
<v S1>an investment. He thinks that $1,000 a year annual savings

0:22:29.690 --> 0:22:32.780
<v S1>on your electricity bill on an on a $9,000 investment

0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:35.450
<v S1>is a pretty good return and might be a better

0:22:35.450 --> 0:22:38.390
<v S1>return than anything else you could invest in at the moment,

0:22:39.320 --> 0:22:41.990
<v S1>such as equities or cash or anything along those lines.

0:22:42.050 --> 0:22:44.090
<v S1>He wants to know Cassandra, He just has done the

0:22:44.090 --> 0:22:47.150
<v S1>research from this. What's the cash? You know, what's the

0:22:47.150 --> 0:22:50.240
<v S1>what's the bad thing here? Like, does this solar panels

0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:52.430
<v S1>a good investment to make money on or not?

0:22:52.430 --> 0:22:54.919
<v S2>Yeah, well, if you are in the fortunate position of

0:22:54.920 --> 0:22:58.070
<v S2>sort of having nine to 10 to $11000 sitting around,

0:22:58.070 --> 0:23:00.709
<v S2>this is really something for people to think about over summer.

0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:03.320
<v S2>As you're switching on your air conditioning, you have to

0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:05.600
<v S2>think about, you know, what sort of dollar return will

0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:08.420
<v S2>you get on your money. So you've got to have

0:23:08.420 --> 0:23:10.760
<v S2>that outlay. You're going to save a certain amount on

0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:13.670
<v S2>your electricity bill because you know, you're getting feed in

0:23:13.670 --> 0:23:17.240
<v S2>tariffs by putting money back into the grid. And you're also,

0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:18.889
<v S2>you know, getting free energy from the sun when you

0:23:18.890 --> 0:23:21.560
<v S2>use it. So I did do the sums on this recently.

0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:24.439
<v S2>If you Google my name just so on and solar panels,

0:23:24.440 --> 0:23:28.940
<v S2>you'll you'll find that. But it is saving money is great.

0:23:28.970 --> 0:23:32.000
<v S2>Not spending money is a great investment in a way

0:23:32.210 --> 0:23:34.640
<v S2>because if you compare that so you've dollar you know

0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:37.550
<v S2>you get your you spend your $9,000, maybe you get

0:23:37.550 --> 0:23:40.510
<v S2>$1,000 every year in savings on your bill, you know,

0:23:40.580 --> 0:23:43.760
<v S2>and about 10 to 11% return. That's true. Maybe you

0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:46.129
<v S2>think I'm going to go invest that dollar in the

0:23:46.130 --> 0:23:49.760
<v S2>share market and then you'll get a percentage return. It's

0:23:49.760 --> 0:23:54.050
<v S2>incredibly volatile and you have to pay tax on the earnings.

0:23:54.740 --> 0:23:57.230
<v S2>So that's something to keep in mind. So and then

0:23:57.230 --> 0:24:00.170
<v S2>maybe you could have the money sitting in the offset account.

0:24:00.530 --> 0:24:03.470
<v S2>That is another way of just saving money because you're

0:24:03.470 --> 0:24:06.619
<v S2>not going to pay as much interest on your loan

0:24:06.619 --> 0:24:10.070
<v S2>because you've got the extra dollar sitting there. So that's

0:24:10.070 --> 0:24:13.670
<v S2>also a great strategy, but yet finding a way where

0:24:13.670 --> 0:24:16.790
<v S2>it's just going to cut your costs out of pocket

0:24:17.780 --> 0:24:21.409
<v S2>in an ongoing sense. That could be a great thing

0:24:21.410 --> 0:24:24.530
<v S2>for a lot of people to do. If the caveat

0:24:24.530 --> 0:24:27.080
<v S2>being if you've got the $10,000 or so that's going

0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:30.060
<v S2>to cost you to install the solar panels. So yeah,

0:24:30.140 --> 0:24:32.300
<v S2>I think the tax it's the tax thing that really

0:24:32.300 --> 0:24:34.460
<v S2>when you comparing it with alternative uses of your money

0:24:34.460 --> 0:24:37.550
<v S2>and even putting money in a 4%, you know, savings account,

0:24:37.550 --> 0:24:40.729
<v S2>you're going to pay tax on any earnings that you

0:24:40.730 --> 0:24:42.770
<v S2>get on that. And particularly for high income earners, if

0:24:42.770 --> 0:24:45.170
<v S2>you're at a higher marginal rate that starts to get

0:24:45.170 --> 0:24:48.109
<v S2>you know, you get a lesser return because you're paying

0:24:48.230 --> 0:24:50.689
<v S2>losing more of that on tax. So, yeah, there's nothing

0:24:50.690 --> 0:24:54.409
<v S2>like a quick, you know, saving an expense. Cutting an

0:24:54.410 --> 0:24:57.560
<v S2>expense is another way of investing money if it does

0:24:57.560 --> 0:25:01.609
<v S2>make sense. And I think there's that is something definitely

0:25:01.609 --> 0:25:04.159
<v S2>worth thinking about. And I don't think you're missing anything

0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:06.760
<v S2>there that. That could just be a really good saving

0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:09.369
<v S2>if people have have that sort of disposable cash around.

0:25:09.460 --> 0:25:11.490
<v S1>Yeah, And it's I think it's also worth thinking about,

0:25:11.500 --> 0:25:12.639
<v S1>you know, how long are you going to be in

0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:14.080
<v S1>the place that you going to put the panels on?

0:25:14.410 --> 0:25:16.210
<v S1>You know, I would love to have solar panels on

0:25:16.210 --> 0:25:18.520
<v S1>my apartment despite the fact that I'd need to get

0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:20.679
<v S1>the approval of the other 13 people that live in

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:22.720
<v S1>the block. But, you know, I'm probably only going to

0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:25.119
<v S1>be there for maybe another five ish or more years

0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:27.010
<v S1>sort of thing. So like, therefore, it's not worth it.

0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:28.210
<v S1>So I think there's there's a lot of things to

0:25:28.210 --> 0:25:31.030
<v S1>take into account. But, you know, yeah, I'd do it

0:25:31.030 --> 0:25:31.420
<v S1>if I could.

0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:34.240
<v S2>Yeah. Solar panel advocates do say that if you do

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:36.669
<v S2>install them, it will increase, it will increase the sale

0:25:36.670 --> 0:25:38.440
<v S2>price of your home. So I'm not sure if that.

0:25:38.500 --> 0:25:39.580
<v S3>Is true or not that that.

0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:43.330
<v S2>Might be a bit of a line, but yeah, definitely

0:25:43.330 --> 0:25:44.260
<v S2>worth investigating.

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:48.460
<v S1>And lastly, a budget tip. Just bring us bring us

0:25:48.460 --> 0:25:54.100
<v S1>into the end of the year. Sleigh bells ringing, carols, caroling. Well,

0:25:54.220 --> 0:25:56.470
<v S1>what is it? What's your what's your festive budget tip?

0:25:56.740 --> 0:25:59.290
<v S2>Well, maybe, you know, you're at your Christmas party. You've

0:25:59.290 --> 0:26:02.080
<v S2>had a wonderful time. You should definitely not drive yourself home.

0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:04.629
<v S2>And I want everyone to get home safely this Christmas.

0:26:04.990 --> 0:26:08.700
<v S2>One of my tips is to mix up your ride

0:26:08.710 --> 0:26:11.440
<v S2>share app. So I feel like Uber has become like

0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:14.139
<v S2>Google versus I'm going to Uber, you know, I'm going

0:26:14.140 --> 0:26:16.689
<v S2>to Google something and you've you've forgotten that there's actually

0:26:16.690 --> 0:26:20.109
<v S2>competitors to Uber. So I actually use Didi for the

0:26:20.109 --> 0:26:22.780
<v S2>first time in the last couple of months. And there's

0:26:22.780 --> 0:26:26.560
<v S2>also Ola and Lyft l y left. You know, they're

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:29.020
<v S2>not in every single area of Australia, but it's well

0:26:29.020 --> 0:26:32.050
<v S2>worth having a Google. And just it's another one of

0:26:32.050 --> 0:26:34.300
<v S2>those habitual things, you know, you think, I've got to

0:26:34.300 --> 0:26:37.840
<v S2>get myself home, I'll just get an Uber. Remember that

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:42.520
<v S2>there are competitors and if you Google Didi and $20

0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:45.790
<v S2>voucher or even just a voucher, I guarantee you will

0:26:45.790 --> 0:26:48.010
<v S2>get to a website where you can get at least

0:26:48.010 --> 0:26:50.560
<v S2>$20 off your first drive, which might get you home

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:54.520
<v S2>from your Christmas party this year. So yeah, don't forget

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:57.850
<v S2>to shop around on absolutely everything, including Rideshares.

0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:01.090
<v S1>And here's my supplementary budget tip, which is don't forget

0:27:01.090 --> 0:27:03.580
<v S1>about taxis. I go to taxi the other day because

0:27:03.580 --> 0:27:05.649
<v S1>sometimes you go into you go going to Uber or

0:27:05.650 --> 0:27:07.930
<v S1>your Didi or whatever, and it's surging and it's like,

0:27:07.930 --> 0:27:10.659
<v S1>you know, $80 to get you home or something ridiculous.

0:27:10.869 --> 0:27:12.850
<v S1>But you can stand on the street and hail a cab.

0:27:12.850 --> 0:27:14.620
<v S1>That's still something you can do in like the middle

0:27:14.619 --> 0:27:16.720
<v S1>of the city or something, you know, similar to that.

0:27:18.070 --> 0:27:20.859
<v S1>And it's usually cheaper. And they can't surge price.

0:27:20.859 --> 0:27:22.030
<v S2>They do night time.

0:27:22.030 --> 0:27:24.730
<v S1>So they do they do that. But like, it'll be

0:27:24.730 --> 0:27:29.050
<v S1>like a flat thing. And, you know, often they're pretty,

0:27:29.230 --> 0:27:31.420
<v S1>pretty good experience. But, you know, there is the caveat

0:27:31.420 --> 0:27:35.200
<v S1>that the taxis can sometimes be a little bit dodgy. But,

0:27:35.230 --> 0:27:38.230
<v S1>you know, we want we want, you know, domain domain not.

0:27:38.230 --> 0:27:40.300
<v S3>To be just place. It is. It is. It is.

0:27:40.300 --> 0:27:40.750
<v S3>I think this is.

0:27:40.750 --> 0:27:43.330
<v S2>A good time to call it taxi. This is the

0:27:43.330 --> 0:27:44.109
<v S2>end of the episode.

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:47.440
<v S1>It I'm hailing the end of the episode.

0:27:48.100 --> 0:27:50.980
<v S2>The Christmas party is over. I hope everyone does have

0:27:50.980 --> 0:27:53.290
<v S2>a great break. And as as we say, look out

0:27:53.290 --> 0:27:57.070
<v S2>for our summer series of our greatest hits. Still hitting

0:27:57.070 --> 0:27:59.710
<v S2>your podcast players while we're on hiatus.

0:27:59.710 --> 0:28:02.530
<v S1>Yes. And we'll be back in the first week of February.

0:28:03.430 --> 0:28:06.460
<v S1>Hopefully we'll have some juicy new tips. Well, no, not

0:28:06.460 --> 0:28:08.770
<v S1>hopefully we will have some juicy new tips and there'll

0:28:08.770 --> 0:28:10.899
<v S1>be all sorts of things going on that we'll be

0:28:10.900 --> 0:28:13.060
<v S1>able to talk about for for the new year. So

0:28:13.060 --> 0:28:15.910
<v S1>I hope everyone has a lovely break and we'll see

0:28:15.910 --> 0:28:16.420
<v S1>you next year.

0:28:16.450 --> 0:28:17.260
<v S2>See you next year.

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