WEBVTT - Wake Up Australia with Mike Jeffreys - Monday 23rd June 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:20.119 On TGB for BC and network stations. This is Wake 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:22.600 Up Australia with Mike Jeffries. 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:28.000 Good morning, welcome along here it is Monday again. Welcome 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:31.000 to the week, Welcome to the day, all that kind 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.120 of thing. I want to Trevor Long this half hour 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:38.240 because I'm continually interested and it's been talk about during 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:42.400 the week about how the government of this country is 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:47.479 leading the way in making sure that under sixteen year 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:52.440 olds can't access social media. That's the way they're putting it. 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:58.240 Not the Internet altogether, but social media. So you know, 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:01.800 I talked about it from the view of a parent 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:05.559 before the news viewer with me then, but I also 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.200 want to talk to Trevor Long about the technicalities of 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:11.919 doing it. I did have a conversation with him quite 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:16.560 some months ago. Since then there've been tests. Anyway, I'll 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:20.720 talk to Trevor about it. I still really don't see 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:23.920 how it can be done. And Nicole, whom I was 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:27.520 talking to before the News, supports it one hundred percent 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:31.880 knows about AI. Works for one of the big banks, 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:36.399 so it's fully experienced with the whole Internet computer thing, hacking, 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:40.280 all that sort of stuff, and she thinks it's a 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:42.880 great idea, but has no idea how it will be done. 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:45.360 I'm very suspicious as to how it will be done. 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:49.800 But anyway, I'll talk that through with Trevor. By the way, 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:51.440 I was listening to the news there. You can't say 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:54.919 we don't give the alternate view on the radio station 0:01:55.080 --> 0:02:00.640 with David Schubridge there. Think about our politicians, no matter 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:05.000 what side of the fence you're on, they're so dumb. Really. 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:08.359 I mean, there's Shuebridge and he's setting out to make 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:12.320 his case while you know why, Trump's completely wrong with 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:16.320 what he's done with Iran, and then he throws in 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:20.440 what he thinks is a snappy convincer and he says, oh, 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:24.160 you can't bomb your way to peace. That really wasn't 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:28.080 the lesson from World War Two? Was it? You know, 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:33.359 if the Yanks hadn't done that Hiroshima Nagasaki thing, when 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:39.000 would the Japanese have quit? Anyway, Like I say, you know, 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.359 I mean doesn't apply to all of them. I think 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:44.600 there are some genuine politicians out there, but the ones 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:47.720 that seem to work their way to the top, they just, 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:51.200 I mean, what else can you say? But the stuff 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:55.520 they say, it's just honestly dumb. Anyway, here's what you're 0:02:55.520 --> 0:03:00.799 facing on the front pages corea mail don goes nuclear. 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:07.920 Trump obliterates Iran's nuke sites. US forces bracing for retaliation 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:12.880 after bold move by President. The United States Navy's fifth 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:16.560 Fleet in Bahrain is bracing for an attack after President 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:21.440 Donald Trump declared an unprecedented American bombing the raid had 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:28.760 completely and totally obliterated Iran's key nuclear facilities. Well, that's 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:32.760 what he's saying, and that may well be true, but 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:36.040 I mean, how do you prove it, because you know, 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:37.839 the Uranians are saying, Oh, it wasn't a big deal 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:41.480 really or was that effect? I am paraphrasing there, but 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:45.000 that's the approach they're taking. So who is going to 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.960 give us the definitive picture. I want to talk to 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:52.920 a journal in about an hour to see if we've 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.560 got any updates on that. Anyway, just letting you know 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:58.920 what's on the front pages of the papers finn Review. 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:03.600 You've got Iran vow's payback against the US oil price 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:07.840 to spike on supply fears. Yes, that could be getting 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:10.880 you get a variety of opinion on the front page 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:16.760 of the Finn Review. You get Jessica Gardner saying Trump 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.320 was holding back on Iran, then he received a phone 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:24.039 call from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin and Yahoo, that's what 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:28.760 Jessica has to say to you. Inside. Andrew Tillet says 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:32.760 the US bombing has dealt Iran's nuclear ambitions a blow, 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:36.279 but it's an open question whether it was a fatal one. 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:41.360 And Jennifer Hewitt says the end or just the start. 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:45.440 The unprecedented US military action has become part of the 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:50.960 dramatic reshaping of the Middle East led by Israel. And yeah, 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:55.120 they're the big stories, opinions on the big store in 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:58.160 front of the finn Review. What else do you get? 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:05.520 Queensland may hold ind cash hostage to GST. Yeah, what 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:09.480 are they up to there? APRA's director limits will make 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:14.280 the boards lazy and ten billion dollar deal could shake 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:18.760 up the energy market. Talking about those things as well, 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:24.000 Cambra Times, you get a picture of Trump, picture of 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:27.279 the big bomber and a headline that says bombs away, 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:31.880 US enters the war. They're also talking about plans for 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:36.800 twenty six thousand new homes over five years. And I 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:40.599 guess they got the story somewhere about labor politicians saying, 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:43.799 look what we've done. I think it was what seven homes, 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:48.520 but they're waiting to build twenty six thousand. Anyway, The Age, 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:53.320 says angus tour a bit terse ACDC, you're back for 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:57.320 five nights only. Okay, it's a long time since I've 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:01.800 seen them. I wouldn't mind seeing them again, I guess. Uh, 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:06.400 fresh complaints against top Chef and Vos under pressure. But 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:10.480 the big headline, of course, on the Age, Trump joins war, 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:17.360 US bombs Uranian nuclear sized, President Hale spectacular success, Darnlow's revenge, 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:24.320 and there's a rise in teachers grooming students online, teaches 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:30.120 grooming students online. As far as the opinion on the Age, 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:33.880 you get a variety of opinions. Michael Coziole says muster 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:39.200 stroke or mistake. Time will tell, Maureen Dowd says President 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:44.679 makes mad King look sane, and Corey Alpertz says hero 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:48.520 Act doesn't fool anyone. So you get a variety of 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.680 opinions there. It's not a bad thing. I encourage that. 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:53.480 Uh. 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:57.919 Sidney Morning Herald Trump joins war on Iran. There's a 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:00.919 picture once again of the big bomber and Trump with 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:04.880 the faithful beside him. And it's that picture that you've 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:09.200 probably seen on TV at least a dozen times by now. 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:15.120 Planning failure, Stemy's the Metro dig and Northern Beaches hospital heartache. 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:17.480 That's what again on the front pages of the Sunday 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:22.960 Morning Herald and the Herald's Sun totally obliterated is the 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:27.320 big headline. Trump drops bunker buster bombs on Keen euch 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.760 sites Ayatola warned to make peace or face far worse, 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:36.480 and Iran says it's now our turn before blitzing Israeli cities. 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:43.440 Trevor Long is a technology guru from e FtM dot com. 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:45.880 Morning Trevor, thank you for making yourself available at this 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:51.800 hour of the morning. Actually, my associate, mister Sindon says 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:54.800 that you're normally awake at this hour of the morning. 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:55.640 Can that be true? 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:56.280 Yeah? 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:59.239 No, I'd like to get up a freish just forget 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.200 a start of the day. You get more done at 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:02.720 this hour of the morning than you do any other 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:03.240 time at day. 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:07.360 I see, Okay. Now, I know we've talked about this before, 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:10.800 but there have been some developments. We have a law 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:18.440 passed that says people under sixteen cannot excess social media. 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:22.400 First of all, to your understanding, are we only talking 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:25.680 social media sites or the internet? 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:28.880 Generally, we're only talking social media. But this is where 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:32.040 it gets hilarious. So we have a law passed. It 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:34.560 comes into effect at the end of this year, but 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:38.120 it does not yet specify because it's a separate process 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:42.199 to specify what is social media. So the government has 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:46.800 not yet decided what is social media. So is YouTube 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:50.280 part of social media? TikTok, Instagram, et cetera. So that's 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:54.040 the first big unknown, because the big question really for 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:58.800 me is YouTube has was originally excluded in statements by 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:03.160 the government During the election campaign, the Prime Minister was 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:05.480 questioned on this and he said it would be reviewed 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:08.720 and there's been no conversation since then. And the issue 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:12.559 here is not the YouTube that we all watch. Because 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:14.560 we go on a website and we look at YouTube 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:18.040 and these you know, widescreen format videos, whether they're funny 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:21.080 or silly or education or whatever, and people watch it 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:24.000 on their TV. That's the YouTube we think of the 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:27.760 thirteen and fourteen year olds aren't watching that YouTube. They're 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:32.440 on what's called YouTube thoughts, which is essentially TikTok. It 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:36.160 is what it is what YouTube created to fight against 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:39.200 the rise of TikTok? So why are we allowing that 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:42.480 under these rules? And that's the first question we need answered. 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.760 Is it included or not? And the second question is 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:49.880 how on earth do we decide who's sixteen and who's 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:53.880 not because these kids don't have IDs. My kids don't 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:55.600 have id's. I have a thirteen year old and a 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.679 fourteen year old. They don't have an ID. How are 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:01.520 these How is tikto And that's the best example, because 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:04.160 people love to hate it. How is TikTok meant to 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:07.640 work out who's fourteen and who's fifteen and who's sixteen? 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:11.400 So the government or a government body, the Age Assurance 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:16.000 Trial release some information on Friday suggesting that they had 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:20.080 done some testing, they had received submissions from the age 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:25.840 assurance industry, and of course the age assurance industry has said, no, dramas, 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.959 we can tell you who's fifteen and who's sixteen and 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:32.640 who's eighteen. But Mike, the devil is in the details. 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:37.040 These companies can do that with an error rate of 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:37.920 about a year. 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:38.319 And a half. 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:43.120 Well, that makes me laugh, Trevor, because can you imagine 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:47.720 how outraged a seventeen year old will be if she's 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.559 told that she can't look at something that she wants 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:55.000 to on social media because the device thinks she's only fifteen. 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:59.200 Says no, here's the example I'll give you. When my 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.280 kids turned they were allowed to have social media because 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:05.360 that was the age that social media was allowed by 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:09.559 the social media companies. My kids literally on their birthday 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:14.480 requested social media. Okay, so on their thirteenth birthday they 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:17.040 got accounts. And I'll tell you right now, it's actually 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:20.160 really hard to do because the American time zone is 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:23.120 a day later, and therefore, according to America, they're not 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.520 thirteen yet. But anyway, that's a whole other issue. On 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:30.760 their sixteenth birthday post these regulations coming in, how is 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:35.080 it possible that any technology, any technology is going to 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:37.560 tell the difference between a child that is fifteen years 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:40.160 and ten months old and a child that has just 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:44.920 turned sixteen? Physically impossible. The only way to do that 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:49.120 is for a parent to verify their idea and confirm 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:51.439 that the child can have an account, and that by 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:55.320 law is not required to be the way we prove 0:11:55.360 --> 0:12:00.959 people's age because identity documents are not required this legislation, 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:03.840 so fas the whole thing I'm telling you. 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:08.959 Okay, So the tests they ran in the recent past, 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:12.600 my understanding were as you say, I mean, they couldn't 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:14.840 tell the difference between an eighteen year old and fifteen 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:20.200 year old whatever. But when it comes to providing some 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:23.080 kind of bona fide, I mean, how do you establish 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:24.840 that the bona fide is bona fide? 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:30.160 Well, we do have pretty good systems for verifying government IDs. 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.200 I actually did it this morning. I was setting up 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:35.080 a payment terminal for some testing, and it required me 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.280 to prove my ID for my company and all this stuff, 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:39.640 and basically I put in my driver's license and it 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:43.360 went away and verified it. There are good systems for 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:47.600 verifying a government ID that is safe and secure, But 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:51.600 because of the concerns of the wider public around sharing 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:57.480 government identity documents, the legislation had to require that there 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:01.080 were options other than So, yes, it's completely allowed to 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:04.680 use government IDD, but it should not be the only way. 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:08.480 It must be possible to verify using a method other 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:12.480 than ID. And there's no way of proving that my 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:15.040 fourteen year old is fourteen or fifteen And if you've 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:17.880 ever been to a kid's sporting match and you've looked 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:19.400 at the kids on the court, going, these are all 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.600 under fifteen. That girl looks seventeen, this girl looks twelve. 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:25.360 What like as a parent, I can't tell the age 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:26.959 of my child's friends. 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:31.760 Well, that's certainly the case. So what happens though? I mean, 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:35.719 my youngest son is twenty one, so it's not an 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:39.880 issue for me at that level. But supposing I had 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:43.720 a fourteen year old who's saying dad, dad, and I say, oh, yeah, okay, 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:49.240 here's my license, and then I pretend that my fourteen 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:53.240 year old is actually sixteen year old, how's anybody going 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:54.319 to prove that's incorrect? 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:57.840 They're not. And here's the great news. It is not 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:04.720 under the legislation. Again, parent cannot be prosecuted fined for 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:09.000 having their kids on social media, so parent cannot be 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:12.120 held responsible. The parent essentially can allow it. It's up 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:16.880 to the social media companies to not allow it. And 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:20.000 there's some caveats there because it's actually not about them 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:24.120 accessing these services, about having accounts on the services, which 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:28.640 is a whole other discussion. But yeah, basically there's no 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.600 requirement for parents to get in trouble if their kids 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:34.080 are on social media. And what I think will happen 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:38.600 is just like right now, if my seventeen year old 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:40.400 at the time is now eighteen, so a if my 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:42.480 seventeen year old wanted to have a couple of beers 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:45.600 at a party, then the nineteen year old or the 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:47.320 eighteen year old will go and get the beers and 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:51.320 supply them to everyone. What trust me old, you know, 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:55.120 seventeen eighteen year old Brian with his driver's license is 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:58.080 going to sign up to accounts for kids and give 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:01.160 them the logins and passwords. So what's what's going to happen? 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.160 They're going to still be on social media. 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:06.840 So the best the government can really offer is the 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:10.120 opportunity for you to say to your fifteen year old 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:14.640 it's against the law for you to go on social media. 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:18.960 They can flout the law themselves if they want to. 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:22.720 As you say, your fifteen year old's got to mate 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.880 who pretends to be or maybe you fifteen year old's 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:29.840 got to mate who's seventeen, who will swear for him 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.640 or her that they're of age. So there's so many 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:36.520 ways to get around it. Really, the best as I 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:39.120 say that the government can offer is I'll tell your 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.520 child it's against the law. Is that really going to 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:43.120 make a difference in the family situation. 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:45.240 It's not going to make any difference. The worst thing 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.800 that ever happened in this whole debate was the Prime 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:49.880 Minister when he said we're going to do this. He said, 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:53.720 we're going to take the responsibility away from parents and 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.200 put it on the social media companies, so that if 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:59.480 old Jimmy creates an account and gives it to little Johnny, 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:01.840 then the social media company can say, well, we had 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.320 an id against that account. We did our thing. The 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:07.600 parents are none the wiser and don't need to pairent apparently, 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.160 according to the Prime Minister, because they have been resolved 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:13.800 of all responsibility to parents. It's purely upon the social 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.880 media companies and they're the ones that get fined if 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:20.120 a child is discovered to have an account. And it's 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.760 going to be you know, News dot com and the 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:26.120 Telegraph and all these people that paraded for this legislation, 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:29.080 they will go the complete opposite way in eighteen months 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.080 from now and talk about all of the kids that 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:35.400 are on there because of these loopholes. But they're not 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:38.240 willing to talk about the loopholes today before the legislation 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:41.600 comes in. It's hilarious to me and I sit by. 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:44.000 Here's the other question. I've got a thirteen and fourteen 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:46.920 year old. Are they excluded from social media as of 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:50.600 December or because they've already got accounts, can they continue 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:51.440 to use it? Good? 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:52.000 Hopefully. 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:53.200 Don't know what to tell my kids. 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:54.480 I literally don't. 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:58.080 Know that wonderful phrases had grandfathered in. That's very interesting, Trevor. 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:00.880 Appreciate your time and comments. Thanks for coming on program. 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:14.960 Okay mate, Travelong technology Guru from EFTM dot com. 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:14.920 And now on Wake Up Australia News Today. 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:19.920 Yes it is with Sessha Foot Morning Sessia, Good morning Mike. 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:24.520 Iran says it remains resolutely determined to defend itself against 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:28.080 the US after three of its nuclear sites were targeted 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:31.399 in strikes. The leaders leaders of the UK, France and 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:35.159 Germany have released a joint statement calling on Iran to 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:40.080 engage in negotiations. British Airways and Singapore Airlines have canceled 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:43.520 flights to the Persian golf due to the escalating situation. 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:47.680 Queensland's Premier is refusing to say whether his first budget 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.679 tomorrow will include cuts to programs to deal with a 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:54.720 revenue black hole. The budget is expected to focus on 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:58.200 paying at two hundred and seventeen billion dollars in debt 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:01.600 facing the state by twenty twenty eight. And A man 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:04.120 has been killed after he was hit by a use 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:08.000 on an intersection in Newcastle. Police say the forty eight 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:11.760 year old was struck while crossing a street. Mike Moore 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:13.280 News at the top of the hour. 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:15.440 As session, thank you for that now to the three 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:18.399 AW newsroom and Eddie Summerfield Morning. 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:21.960 Eddie Morning. A man has been charged with forty offences 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:25.680 after a hould of privately manufactured firearms parts, imitation guns, 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:28.359 ammunition and drugs are uncovered at a cran Burn property 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:32.080 Across the waged detectives seizing more than fifty items, including 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:38.600 several imitation firearms, pistols, three D printed guns and the like. 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.480 Victoria Police is spending almost ten million dollars a year 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:45.120 settling claims bought against offices and new data remailing. Since 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:48.240 twenty twenty, forty six and a half million dollars has 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:51.919 been spent settling three hundred and forty five claims against 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:56.080 police misconduct seventy five cases filed over the past financial year. 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:59.000 Victoria's Premiers Into Allen, is leaving the door open to 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:02.199 stamp duty reform or if there is coordinating support from 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:05.399 the federal government, and a new tourism campaign will be 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:07.520 launched by the Victorian government today in a bid to 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:10.760 grow the state's forty billion dollar tourism industry. 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:15.000 Film Thank you, Eddie. That Saidie Summerfield in the three 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:18.160 a W news room. Let me take a phone call 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:21.800 here business running from Canberra. Hello, isn't it? 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:25.960 Oh, good morning, Mike. I wondered whether you'd caught up 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:30.000 that apparently Trump's been nominated for the Nobel Peace christ 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:30.920 later this year. 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:34.000 There's pakistanis wanted to do that, didn't they. 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:44.120 Yes, because of the between Pakistan and mean there. 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:45.840 You just dropped out there for a moment then and 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:46.800 who I. 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:53.640 Said, Apparently it was because of his mediation between Pakistan 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:54.400 and India. 0:19:54.800 --> 0:20:00.600 Yeah, a few weeks back. Yes, the difference somebody else 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:03.520 and I was thinking, well, that's the difference between say, 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:05.520 Pakistan and David Schubridge. 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:11.200 But anyway, yes, yeah, but you know what we used 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:14.200 to say that a week was a long time in politics. 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:17.000 It's definitely twenty four hours is a long time in 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:18.479 politics these days. 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:20.879 Oh, it's the it's the age we live in years. 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:26.840 We've got to compress everything down. Instant gratification isn't quick enough, 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:27.960 you know how it goes. 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:34.560 Yeah, but I'm hoping for a second positive from his action, 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:42.000 and that is the Milar, you're disappearing. 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:44.199 You keep disappearing this and what have you done? You 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:47.080 paid your phone bill. 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:50.480 I'll not pay my phone bill, Mike. Is that better? 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:53.560 This was a bit What did you say before? Then? 0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:58.280 I was just saying that then they will hopefully be 0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:02.480 a secondary benefit to his action, and that the nurse 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:08.960 around both Russia and and China will titan Russia in particular, 0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:14.760 and that Ukraine will prevail and get to its freedom 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:16.520 within the next year or so. 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:19.679 It's a lot to hope for, but I guess there 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:21.159 are a lot of people who would support you in that. 0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:24.920 All right, thank you, thank you, have a good day. 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:32.480 You two buy relationships. Dr Marney Lishman helps me out 0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:36.560 when I'm confused. Dr Marney's a health and community psychologist. 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:39.679 He's on the line. Good morning, Thank you for doing this. Hello, 0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:41.919 how are you do you remember Quentin Crisp. 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:45.000 Oh no, I don't think so. 0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:47.360 There was a TV show about him many years ago 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:49.800 called The Naked Civil Servant, and I used to speak 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:53.720 to Quentin. Quentin described himself as one of the stately 0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:58.360 homos of England, and he used to say, the trouble 0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:02.080 with your partner putting the toothpaste on the wrong side 0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:04.199 of the sink, it's not that he does it, but 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:10.399 he does it every day. And that brings us to 0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:13.480 what we're going to talk about here. Is it time 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:15.960 for a bathroom divorce? Please explain? 0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:21.080 Yes, yes, Well it's one of those other sleep social 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:23.320 media trends that are happening at the moment. And I 0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:26.800 think sometimes when there's these kind of almost silly social 0:22:26.840 --> 0:22:30.800 media trends that they seem to quote quite viral, so 0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:32.679 I think a lot of people resonate with them. So 0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:37.119 the bathroom divorce isn't actually a divorce per se, but 0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:42.440 it's rather let's have separate bathroom spaces just to avoid 0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:46.400 the conflict because the other person, whoever it may be, 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:49.879 has these bad habits that, to your point, seem to 0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:53.600 happen every single day regardless of whether we complain or not. 0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:56.879 Well, the classic male female is that he leaves the 0:22:56.920 --> 0:23:00.440 seat up. Is that still an issue? 0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:02.879 So selfish? So selfish? 0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:06.040 It doesn't come Yeah, what is it? You don't change 0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:07.040 the toilet rolls either. 0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:11.679 Many years come up. Many years ago I read about 0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:16.359 some university in Sweden that, out of consideration for the ladies, 0:23:16.720 --> 0:23:19.760 all the boys decided to leave the seat down. And 0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:22.480 I must have scoffed at this, and I actually had 0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:25.520 somebody listening in Sweden, a young male who you know, 0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:29.919 castigated me for being not thoughtful enough where the ladies 0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:33.359 were concerned. But I don't know, is it really that 0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:36.520 much of a big deal. I suppose if it annoys you, 0:23:36.560 --> 0:23:39.359 and it happens every day, as Quentin said, then it 0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:40.320 becomes an issue. 0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:44.159 Well exactly exactly, And I think it's not. I mean, 0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:46.399 people are talking about this bathroom divorce. It's a bit 0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:49.080 like a few months ago it was sleep divorce as well. 0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:51.399 You know, a lot of people can thrive better in 0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:54.840 their relationships if some of those kind of sleeping habits, 0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:57.399 you know, like snoring and tossing and turning. You know, 0:23:57.480 --> 0:24:01.000 let's have separate bedrooms. Yeah we can, you know kind 0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:03.479 of you know, just spend more time on there, the 0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:05.679 more important things, instead of these little things that are 0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:08.040 annoying us. So it's kind of the kind of a 0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:12.120 similar cousin, isn't it of the sleep divorce. But yeah, 0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:14.720 I mean, these things do cause a lot of conflict 0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:19.320 and if no one's communicating properly or not listening to 0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:22.240 the other person's complaints. These things are happening every day 0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:23.800 and it can cause quite the irritation. 0:24:24.560 --> 0:24:26.439