Speaker 1: On Sydney.
Speaker 2: Now you can't handle the truth.
Speaker 3: The straight shooters.
Speaker 2: It's our straight shooter for a Wednesday. I've Lucy's lh
Speaker 2: Lucy save me from the public transport system.
Speaker 1: I don't even know that they can save themselves. Clinton.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is just turning into.
Speaker 4: Quite the catastrophe for them, isn't it. Not only is
Speaker 4: it a public relations disaster, but it's also a disaster
Speaker 4: on the ground for Sydney commuters and the fact that
Speaker 4: this now, this piece of vital infrastructure in the city
Speaker 4: is being mocked and it's suffering. Yeah, and it's that
Speaker 4: it's also suffering some serious reputational damage to and you know,
Speaker 4: and people being able to also just rely on it
Speaker 4: as a you know, as a as a wonderful way
Speaker 4: to get through the city and to be on time
Speaker 4: and to not have to stare down the barrel of
Speaker 4: potential industrial action. I mean that there's just there's so
Speaker 4: many narratives around all of this, I think, which have
Speaker 4: been so frustrating for commuterity to be.
Speaker 2: For the Metro has been pretty reliable, Yeah.
Speaker 1: The Metro, it's been all right.
Speaker 4: But I'm saying as a whole I think unfortunately all
Speaker 4: being grouped into the one category.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. Gary actually asked the question, doesn't the pause
Speaker 2: in union work bands expY next month? So yeah, Garry's right.
Speaker 2: The IC issued that ban effectively on industrial action through
Speaker 2: until June, so I'll find the precise date now. The
Speaker 2: Transport Minister was actually questioned about the negotiations with the
Speaker 2: union today and he said, look, they're need no negotiating
Speaker 2: on a daily basis.
Speaker 1: Do you think they're going to get this over the
Speaker 1: line eventually? Clinton?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's a militant unit.
Speaker 1: So brace yourselves.
Speaker 4: The anarchists are coming back to the floor and really
Speaker 4: you've got to start relying on your e bike that's
Speaker 4: hopefully not going to blow up in the middle of
Speaker 4: the night because of the lithium batteries, or jump in
Speaker 4: your car that's been fueled by some fossil fuels.
Speaker 2: Phil says, bring back Gladys. Was Gladys.
Speaker 4: I loved glad Yeah, and I thought she was fantastic in.
Speaker 2: That these problems on Sydney's train network they've been they
Speaker 2: go back decades and decades. Governments of all political persuasions
Speaker 2: have failed on it. But yes, the coalition actually did
Speaker 2: develop Metro and Metro does seem to be the answer.
Speaker 2: Now there's been a significant court case today. A Newington
Speaker 2: College student has lost a bid to challenge the school's
Speaker 2: move to become a co ed. So from twenty twenty
Speaker 2: six and this will be staged, boys and girls will
Speaker 2: begin attending Newington. But there was a challenge in court.
Speaker 2: We can't name the the student can only be referred
Speaker 2: to as student aid. The student filed a lawsuit in
Speaker 2: December of twenty twenty four and the case hinged on
Speaker 2: terminology in the school's eighteen seventy three Deed of Identire
Speaker 2: which the statement said that an efficient course of education
Speaker 2: for youth and is limited the advancement of education of
Speaker 2: boys and young men. However, a court has handed down
Speaker 2: a judgment and it's found that the terminology was used
Speaker 2: in a gender neutral sense, so they conclude effectively that
Speaker 2: Newington can move towards co ed. Good thing or bad thing.
Speaker 4: Look, I happen to DiscId agree with it purely on
Speaker 4: the basis that I think that we've had co educational
Speaker 4: and single sex schools exist for an extended period of
Speaker 4: time now decades, and I think that if it works
Speaker 4: and if it's something that students have a preference and
Speaker 4: parents have a preference for, then it should be made
Speaker 4: available to them. And we're not only talking about, you know,
Speaker 4: just any.
Speaker 1: Old school as well.
Speaker 4: The fees of this particular school are also quite exorbitant
Speaker 4: as well. If you're a parent and you've got a
Speaker 4: child in either year eleven or twelve, you're paying upwards
Speaker 4: of forty five thousand dollars a year. So parents who
Speaker 4: know of Newington College have this expectation that it will
Speaker 4: be a single sex and all boys school. Now, I
Speaker 4: think that we've seen this kind of trend recently as well,
Speaker 4: where there have been other schools across Sydney, and prestigious
Speaker 4: Sydney schools as well, that will no longer have co
Speaker 4: educational learning at their junior campuses, schools like Kinkopple as well,
Speaker 4: which we know to be very prestigious. But I'm just
Speaker 4: intrigued as to why there has been this shift against it,
Speaker 4: because I think that we should have those offerings available
Speaker 4: to students and to parents if they would prefer to
Speaker 4: go to either a co ed or a single sex school.
Speaker 2: I Ever, when it comes down to money, well, I
Speaker 2: reckon that the man and I don't go to a
Speaker 2: pride didn't get to a private school. My kids don't
Speaker 2: get all private school my parents, my grandparents did. I'd
Speaker 2: suggest it's the operators of the school of the opinion,
Speaker 2: that to broaden their income base, they feel the need
Speaker 2: to open up to both male and female students.
Speaker 4: As if the private schools aren't already generating a hell
Speaker 4: of a lot of money. Clinton, I mean, and again
Speaker 4: it comes down to personal experience. I know we were
Speaker 4: speaking to our producer Hannah earlier and she said that
Speaker 4: she didn't very much enjoy her single sex, all girls
Speaker 4: school experience. My sister went to an all girls school.
Speaker 4: Her two daughters, my nieces go to all girls schools,
Speaker 4: and they just love them. They really appreciate them well
Speaker 4: they go.
Speaker 2: So I went to public schools. But my public school
Speaker 2: merged with a girls school for year eleven and twelve
Speaker 2: and is now a co ed school. And I actually
Speaker 2: loved it, not just because I do like girls, but
Speaker 2: but because it for me personally, it lifted the standards
Speaker 2: of the boys. The boys then actually I think, improve
Speaker 2: their behavior and academically. It was more of a challenge
Speaker 2: to have strong academic girls in our class.
Speaker 4: It'd be interesting to see the metrics on that, wouldn't
Speaker 4: it If it.
Speaker 2: Does actually impact a lot of parents of daughters don't
Speaker 2: believe it's good for their daughters.
Speaker 4: All sons as well. They believe that the opposite sex
Speaker 4: exactly that they can prove to be a bit of
Speaker 4: a distraction. But I just I mean to your point
Speaker 4: about it being financial, Okay, that's one, but you know,
Speaker 4: with these particular institutions that have been known historically to
Speaker 4: be single sex, I do find it interesting now that
Speaker 4: they are going against their traditional ethos and the premise
Speaker 4: of which their school and campuses and alumni have been
Speaker 4: built upon, are now making this shift, and I think
Speaker 4: it kind of denies parents that opportunity to be able
Speaker 4: to send them to a school based on those particular preferences.
Speaker 2: What's your view? Are you happy that the major GPS
Speaker 2: schools like Newington, not all of them, but Newington certainly
Speaker 2: is based on this court decision that now they handed down,
Speaker 2: will go co ed. Let us know one eight seven
Speaker 2: three is our number. Lucy zell atch Ow straight shoot
Speaker 2: for a Wednesday afternoon just on the trains, and it
Speaker 2: says bring back the monorail. I don't think they're going
Speaker 2: to bring back the mone on the concord.
Speaker 1: What else can we unearth?
Speaker 2: Okay, On schools, Bill says, I went to the Oberon
Speaker 2: Central School. Apart from freezing my backside off, I did
Speaker 2: pretty well good On your bill, Greg says, I'd like
Speaker 2: to know who's paying for all the works at Newington
Speaker 2: which would be required for the co ed school. They
Speaker 2: will have to make.
Speaker 4: Changes, absolutely, they'll have to make changes, so they'll have
Speaker 4: to install female facilities, et cetera.
Speaker 1: They'll have to go through all of that.
Speaker 4: So whether that Clinton, as we said earlier, speaks to
Speaker 4: your point about it being financial and they'd like to
Speaker 4: broaden the scope, I would think, and judging by their
Speaker 4: alumni as well, that money is something that this school
Speaker 4: wouldn't be short on. As I said, I'm just more
Speaker 4: intrigued as to whether it is solely financial law they're
Speaker 4: motivated by something else in this particular area. I'd love
Speaker 4: to know what the genuine reasons are.
Speaker 2: Ben on the text line zero force x zero eight
Speaker 2: seven three out seven three says traditionally women would not
Speaker 2: allowed to vote at one point. Also, Ben's's move with
Speaker 2: the times.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Ben, that's not comparing like for like, So
Speaker 4: what are we saying. I mean, a woman's right to
Speaker 4: vote is a human right. A right to go to
Speaker 4: an all boys school? I think that that's just ultimately
Speaker 4: down to preference, right. If that's something that you choose,
Speaker 4: and that's something that you would like to do, I
Speaker 4: think that you should have that option available to you,
Speaker 4: particularly at an institution that has been known historically for
Speaker 4: being an all boys or all girls' school.
Speaker 2: I'm getting more messages on this now coming in. Mari says,
Speaker 2: how can a reference to young boys be gender neutral?
Speaker 2: Give me a break?
Speaker 1: That's for that, I know, right?
Speaker 4: And how the court and how did the court come
Speaker 4: to that determination? I mean, I oftentimes we get sucked
Speaker 4: into semantics around this when it comes to the law.
Speaker 4: But I just thought that, you know, the interpretation of
Speaker 4: youth being gender neutral versus the reference of boys and men,
Speaker 4: and that apparently not being you know that also then
Speaker 4: being gender neutral is very bizarre.
Speaker 2: Now you were fired up today about climate cancer. What's
Speaker 2: climate cancer? I've not heard of that one.
Speaker 4: I try, I'm trying so desperately to say this with
Speaker 4: a straight face. It is such an absurd story. And
Speaker 4: let me be clear on this right And I'm by
Speaker 4: no stretch of the imagination of climate denier, but by
Speaker 4: no means am I also a replica of Greta Tunberg
Speaker 4: who believed five years ago that the world was going
Speaker 4: to be on fire. Remember her interview that she gave
Speaker 4: or her it was like a press conference and where
Speaker 4: she was kind of attacking everybody and saying.
Speaker 1: How dare you? I mean, it was just all so ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Could we be doing more?
Speaker 4: I'm sure, But I am someone that a is a
Speaker 4: big fan of nuclear energy. I think it is a
Speaker 4: step in the right direction. B I think that climate
Speaker 4: change and.
Speaker 1: Its references in so many areas.
Speaker 4: That just are downright disrespectful or just out of place
Speaker 4: entirely are becoming the norm now, and that's a really
Speaker 4: big problem. So in this particular instance, there was a
Speaker 4: study that was released via some researchers in Egypt which
Speaker 4: analyzed the rates of breast, cervical, ovarian, and uterine cancers
Speaker 4: in seventeen Middle Eastern countries and compared them to rising
Speaker 4: temperatures over time. I just found it to be pretty
Speaker 4: ridiculous because they argued that they found that for every
Speaker 4: one degree celsius, which translates to one point eight degrees
Speaker 4: fahrenheit temperatures increased. Cases of the four cancers on average
Speaker 4: increased by up to two hundred and eighty per one
Speaker 4: hundred thousand people over the last twenty years. I mean,
Speaker 4: you could find causality in anything if you desperately.
Speaker 1: Looked for it.
Speaker 4: It's like it's almost like referencing, Oh, the number of
Speaker 4: children who grow up to not believe in Santa rise
Speaker 4: over time. Well, yeah, because they grow up and they
Speaker 4: realize that Santa doesn't exist, and it's just a slap
Speaker 4: in the face to you know what. Some of the
Speaker 4: real issues going on with cancer and.
Speaker 1: Its causalities are.
Speaker 4: They're not choosing to factor in the rise in cancers
Speaker 4: due to poor dietary health, due to a number of
Speaker 4: other reasons, over reliance on pharmaceuticals, poor lifestyle choices as well.
Speaker 1: The fact that.
Speaker 4: They're trying to link this to climate change I think
Speaker 4: is very insulting. And both my mother and my sister
Speaker 4: are survivors of cancer, thank goodness. My mother in law,
Speaker 4: who we lost very sadly just after four days after Christmas,
Speaker 4: was not But we're not living in extreme and exorbitant temperatures.
Speaker 4: You know, my family has grown up in Canberra, which
Speaker 4: typically is quite cold over the winter months. So this argument,
Speaker 4: I think is not only insulting, but it's just plain dumb.
Speaker 2: I look yesterday, I mentioned this on the Pragmum yesterday,
Speaker 2: the Lock the Gate organization, and they are very well,
Speaker 2: they're quite a militant environmental group. They put them it
Speaker 2: really saut and said the mid North closed floods which
Speaker 2: I witnessed on Monday, were the cause of the Albanese
Speaker 2: government approving more commins.
Speaker 1: Oh my, oh gosh, what about do you.
Speaker 2: Remember when I'm actually not anti clim the climate is
Speaker 2: changing that there's a question whether how much human involvement
Speaker 2: is the cause of that. But if the Albanezy government
Speaker 2: did not approve those coal mines, the floods would still occurred.
Speaker 2: Of course, I'm not going to change that. We're talking
Speaker 2: change over generations.
Speaker 4: And this is where the conversation gets very immature and
Speaker 4: nonsensical and irrational. And I genuinely believe I mean, you
Speaker 4: call the militant, and they are in many respects, but
Speaker 4: I do believe that it causes some of these genuine
Speaker 4: organizations who have some legitimate claims about the climate changing,
Speaker 4: et cetera.
Speaker 1: And what we could be doing more.
Speaker 4: It causes them harm and it really detracts from their
Speaker 4: messaging and their validity in those messages.
Speaker 2: Wednesday Straight Shitter with Lucy's Zilich seventy three on the
Speaker 2: issue of co ed school and co ed private schools,
Speaker 2: Dean has a thought get the Dean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, gooday, guys. Look, when boys only schools go co eds,
Speaker 3: then the girls only schools doesn't follow suit in a
Speaker 3: local LGA area, you then put boys in the area
Speaker 3: at a disadvantage. You're limiting the boys' options of private
Speaker 3: education in a local area.
Speaker 4: I agree, Dean, and that's why I think that those
Speaker 4: choices should be made available to them, especially for institutions
Speaker 4: that have always historically been say, for example, all boys
Speaker 4: or all girls. I just think it's a very limiting decision,
Speaker 4: and I think it's not a fair one either.
Speaker 2: Thanks Dean. This message from one of our listeners on
Speaker 2: the text line zero four zero eight, seventh grade seven three.
Speaker 2: I have one son at Newington, three daughters at a
Speaker 2: similarly prestigious girls school. My husband and I both went
Speaker 2: to public high schools that were co ed. We're making
Speaker 2: choices for our children. Our decisions were based entirely on
Speaker 2: academic and co curricular activities on offer, not gender. We
Speaker 2: would have been thrilled at least to have the choice
Speaker 2: of a co ed private school in our area, the
Speaker 2: caliber of those sort of schools, So I think choice
Speaker 2: is important.
Speaker 4: Of course, choice is important, and that's what I think
Speaker 4: the underpinning messages in all of this. You want to
Speaker 4: be able to have the choice to send them to
Speaker 4: either a co ed or a single sex school. And
Speaker 4: by limiting people you know and limiting those options available
Speaker 4: to them, I think it's just proving to be a disservice.
Speaker 2: Now Anthony Alberanezi has made some comments in Brismon today,
Speaker 2: I reckon they get your fired up. Have listened to this.
Speaker 5: Just a fun fact that's been drawn to my attention
Speaker 5: is that there are more women whose name begins with
Speaker 5: A in the Labor Party caucus in the House of Representatives.
Speaker 5: Ten then there will be nine coalition women on the
Speaker 5: floor of the House of Representatives in the Liberal Party
Speaker 5: and the National Party. Combined with Anika here, Anna Lee
Speaker 5: Ailey France is Alisha Payne, Alice Jordan, Baird, ash Ambaha
Speaker 5: Paha and Stanley, Alison Burns and er Kat and Amanda Rishworth,
Speaker 5: the a's have it.
Speaker 1: Oh God, this is cringey.
Speaker 4: Was anyone else just listening to this and thinking, this
Speaker 4: is the prime minister of our country and this is
Speaker 4: something that he has chosen to chosen to get himself
Speaker 4: wrapped up in. This is what he's getting himself whipped
Speaker 4: up over and again. It's all just to try and
Speaker 4: smear the Liberal Party and try to get them to
Speaker 4: live in that murkiness and that tag that of course
Speaker 4: was championed by the Gillard government, who we know all
Speaker 4: infamously delivered Julia Gillard that he has delivered that infamous
Speaker 4: misogyny speech. But she also happens to be the same
Speaker 4: first female prime minister that introduced gender identity into the
Speaker 4: Sex Discrimination Act in twenty thirteen. So when you go
Speaker 4: to the toilets, or you compete in your local girls
Speaker 4: team and you see boys either coming into those bathrooms
Speaker 4: or playing in your team, you can thank the greatest
Speaker 4: feminist fraud.
Speaker 1: In history, Julia Gillard for that. Thank you.
Speaker 2: The left Arm of Government, State of Origin. One Tonight,
Speaker 2: Suncott Stadium, Brisbane, The Queensland is up against New South Wales.
Speaker 2: Now you were you grew up in the Act.
Speaker 4: HM.
Speaker 2: Does that mean you are neutral? No?
Speaker 4: No, Well I'm a big New South Wales supporter right
Speaker 4: and I think it's only largely because that's the closest
Speaker 4: kind of of the two, that's the closest to us,
Speaker 4: so we will always be championing for them to win.
Speaker 2: Mark Levy with state of origin. He's calling his first
Speaker 2: origin match tonight. You're hearing V Lucy. You'll be back
Speaker 2: next week.
Speaker 1: Thank you mate.