1 00:00:08,250 --> 00:00:11,040 S1: Hey there. I'm Osman Farooqui and this is The Drop, 2 00:00:11,130 --> 00:00:13,590 S1: a weekly culture show from the Sydney Morning Herald in 3 00:00:13,590 --> 00:00:15,990 S1: The Age, where we dive into the latest in the 4 00:00:15,990 --> 00:00:21,470 S1: world of pop culture. And it's time that. Have you 5 00:00:21,470 --> 00:00:24,560 S1: been struggling to find something new and interesting to watch 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,670 S1: on your favorite streaming platform over the past couple of months? Well, 7 00:00:28,670 --> 00:00:32,000 S1: you're not alone. Last year was a record breaker in 8 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,940 S1: terms of the number of original TV series that went 9 00:00:34,940 --> 00:00:38,960 S1: to air with just over 600 scripted shows being released. 10 00:00:39,290 --> 00:00:41,690 S1: There was so many that we got pretty used to 11 00:00:41,690 --> 00:00:45,500 S1: nonstop streaming content, which makes it even more noticeable when 12 00:00:45,500 --> 00:00:48,080 S1: there's been a slowdown like what we've seen since the 13 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,919 S1: beginning of this year. But that's all about to change 14 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,100 S1: with the impending return of some of the biggest prestige 15 00:00:55,100 --> 00:00:58,820 S1: dramas around and the release of hotly anticipated new shows 16 00:00:58,820 --> 00:01:02,310 S1: as well. To help wade through everything that's coming out. 17 00:01:02,330 --> 00:01:06,080 S1: I'm joined by my colleague and TV aficionado Thomas Mitchell. 18 00:01:06,410 --> 00:01:09,470 S1: Thomas Mitchell, welcome back to the Drop. Great to have 19 00:01:09,470 --> 00:01:10,100 S1: you back on. 20 00:01:10,220 --> 00:01:11,360 S2: Always lovely to be here. 21 00:01:11,810 --> 00:01:14,899 S1: You can probably tell from my voice that things aren't 22 00:01:15,350 --> 00:01:17,899 S1: things that normal. Good news is I'm not sick. I've 23 00:01:17,900 --> 00:01:20,960 S1: just been going out to too many gigs seeing too 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,080 S1: many shows, living it up, experiencing all the culture this 25 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,740 S1: great country has to offer. You yourself had a pretty 26 00:01:27,740 --> 00:01:32,150 S1: culture filled weekend. You ran into no other than Sydney 27 00:01:32,150 --> 00:01:35,210 S1: Sweeney from Euphoria and Season one of the White Lotus 28 00:01:35,209 --> 00:01:36,319 S1: who is in Sydney. 29 00:01:36,350 --> 00:01:39,590 S2: Yes, that's right. I almost feel like I manifested Sydney 30 00:01:39,590 --> 00:01:42,679 S2: because I've been talking about her all last week. She's 31 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,830 S2: here filming a new romantic comedy and lo and behold, 32 00:01:45,830 --> 00:01:48,840 S2: we both are Big Harry Styles fans. It turns out. Yeah, 33 00:01:48,860 --> 00:01:51,169 S2: it was crazy. Went to the show on Friday night 34 00:01:51,170 --> 00:01:55,130 S2: at Homebush in New South Wales and yeah, we kind 35 00:01:55,130 --> 00:01:56,510 S2: of got there and there was a bit of like 36 00:01:56,510 --> 00:01:59,030 S2: commotion in the box next to us and all of 37 00:01:59,030 --> 00:02:03,350 S2: a sudden I see Hangman from Top Gun, so Glen Powell. 38 00:02:03,830 --> 00:02:05,360 S2: And then I was like, Oh, that's cool. And that 39 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,600 S2: lasted about ten seconds because then just he like leant 40 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,030 S2: he leant over. And then behind him was Sydney Sweeney. 41 00:02:11,030 --> 00:02:13,130 S2: And that was pretty much like I've legitimately got a 42 00:02:13,139 --> 00:02:15,890 S2: kink in my neck from just like looking over at 43 00:02:15,889 --> 00:02:17,840 S2: them the entire night. But yeah, she was, she seemed 44 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,290 S2: very cool. I briefly bumped into her outside the box 45 00:02:21,290 --> 00:02:25,100 S2: and said hello. She was lovely. And yes, I brought 46 00:02:25,100 --> 00:02:26,900 S2: up the fact that we did speak last year and 47 00:02:26,900 --> 00:02:28,760 S2: she pretended to remember me. So not only is she 48 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,040 S2: a great actress, she's polite too. That's right. 49 00:02:31,130 --> 00:02:33,280 S1: This is Glen Powell in this romantic comedy as well. 50 00:02:33,290 --> 00:02:35,720 S1: Was he there as a as a friend of Sydney's? 51 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,030 S2: He's in the comedy, too. It's by Will Gluck. It's 52 00:02:38,030 --> 00:02:39,950 S2: been shooting around like Double Bay. And I think they 53 00:02:39,950 --> 00:02:42,080 S2: did some stuff at Pigeon Bowl. So yeah, great. 54 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,480 S1: Sydney in Sydney Love to see. Good to have a 55 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,150 S1: man on the ground reporting from the front lines of 56 00:02:47,150 --> 00:02:50,630 S1: Harry Styles. Let's, let's talk about television. Thomas That's what 57 00:02:50,630 --> 00:02:53,750 S1: this episode is about. And I don't know about you, 58 00:02:53,750 --> 00:02:55,370 S1: but it feels like the last couple of months have 59 00:02:55,370 --> 00:02:59,060 S1: been sort of weird. It's kind of normal in the 60 00:02:59,060 --> 00:03:01,600 S1: longer term view of things for that to be a 61 00:03:01,610 --> 00:03:05,570 S1: pretty quiet period. You know, in our summer, in American winter, 62 00:03:06,020 --> 00:03:08,750 S1: we generally have not seen heaps of big shows released 63 00:03:08,750 --> 00:03:11,600 S1: in January and February, but it feels more noticeable this 64 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:16,010 S1: time around, I think, because of just how stacked 2022 65 00:03:16,010 --> 00:03:20,030 S1: was with television. There was so many prestige shows throughout 66 00:03:20,030 --> 00:03:23,270 S1: the entire year, right up until Christmas. But things have 67 00:03:23,270 --> 00:03:26,120 S1: kind of been quiet lately. I have a lot of 68 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,450 S1: friends saying, Oz, I look to you and I look to, 69 00:03:29,450 --> 00:03:31,310 S1: you know, the Age in the Herald and the Pod 70 00:03:31,310 --> 00:03:33,200 S1: to find out what the hell is going on. Where 71 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,320 S1: is television? The good news for everyone is that there's 72 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,710 S1: a lot of it about to hit our screens. So 73 00:03:39,710 --> 00:03:42,650 S1: I figure it's a good time right now to discuss 74 00:03:42,650 --> 00:03:45,410 S1: what is on TV, what's on streaming right now, what's 75 00:03:45,410 --> 00:03:49,490 S1: about to happen. Because between now and the end of April, 76 00:03:49,490 --> 00:03:54,020 S1: there's about to be 10 to 20 big, big prestige 77 00:03:54,020 --> 00:03:57,650 S1: shows across all the streamers. And I think it's time 78 00:03:57,650 --> 00:03:58,670 S1: to give people heads up. 79 00:03:58,820 --> 00:04:01,370 S2: But yeah, it's weird. Like it felt like we ended 80 00:04:01,370 --> 00:04:04,340 S2: the year with like all these really great shows and 81 00:04:04,340 --> 00:04:06,680 S2: we spoke about it before Fleishman came out on Disney, 82 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,090 S2: and that even kind of like went under the radar 83 00:04:08,090 --> 00:04:09,470 S2: because there was so much going on. And then it 84 00:04:09,470 --> 00:04:12,770 S2: was like dead zone, like January, February, nothing going on. 85 00:04:13,220 --> 00:04:16,279 S2: And so it has felt like this kind of just 86 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:17,750 S2: waiting game. And then it's going to be this big 87 00:04:17,750 --> 00:04:20,390 S2: bottleneck of shows now. But yeah, that being said, there 88 00:04:20,390 --> 00:04:22,550 S2: is a huge choice like for people coming up in 89 00:04:22,550 --> 00:04:25,460 S2: March and April and I mean, it's hard to go past. 90 00:04:25,460 --> 00:04:27,260 S2: I think the one that most people are sweating on 91 00:04:27,260 --> 00:04:29,240 S2: is succession season four. 92 00:04:30,620 --> 00:04:33,380 S3: You cannot win. Your dad will wash you away. 93 00:04:33,980 --> 00:04:35,290 S4: This is the chessboard. 94 00:04:35,300 --> 00:04:36,560 S5: Are you tanking the deal? 95 00:04:37,220 --> 00:04:42,529 S4: And every move is crucial, like Israel-Palestine crack, but harder 96 00:04:42,529 --> 00:04:44,060 S4: and much more important. 97 00:04:46,820 --> 00:04:50,419 S2: It arrives here March 27th on Binge. I mean, it's 98 00:04:50,420 --> 00:04:54,020 S2: probably the the best, most talked about most heavily dissected 99 00:04:54,020 --> 00:04:57,169 S2: show on TV right now. It is the kind of 100 00:04:57,170 --> 00:04:59,630 S2: show that people talk about when the words prestige TV 101 00:04:59,630 --> 00:05:02,839 S2: come up. And I think then adding into that, I 102 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,240 S2: guess like narrative is a couple of weeks ago, Jesse 103 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,370 S2: Armstrong sat down with The New Yorker and was like, Also, 104 00:05:07,370 --> 00:05:08,360 S2: this is the final season. 105 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,640 S1: Yeah, that was a pretty significant moment. I mean, how 106 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,140 S1: did you feel about that? Like, this is a show 107 00:05:12,140 --> 00:05:15,200 S1: that you and I love. A lot of people love it. Like, 108 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,990 S1: I think this show is going to be considered in 109 00:05:17,990 --> 00:05:20,930 S1: the same pantheon as something like The Wire or The 110 00:05:20,930 --> 00:05:25,340 S1: Sopranos in terms of its impact on culture, finding out 111 00:05:25,339 --> 00:05:27,770 S1: that its ending a bit bittersweet. 112 00:05:27,950 --> 00:05:30,470 S2: Yeah, I think so. I mean, to be honest, I 113 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,200 S2: after the end of last season and I think probably 114 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,440 S2: the best season ending finales, you know, we've seen in 115 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,200 S2: recent time, but I did have a slight feeling of 116 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,469 S2: like how much more can we because really succession, for 117 00:05:42,500 --> 00:05:44,180 S2: as amazing as it is, it kind of like covers 118 00:05:44,180 --> 00:05:46,729 S2: the same ground over and over again. And so could 119 00:05:46,730 --> 00:05:49,489 S2: we do another two seasons of like someone from the 120 00:05:49,490 --> 00:05:52,609 S2: Rory family trying to overthrow Logan? Probably not. I think 121 00:05:52,610 --> 00:05:55,220 S2: it is the smart call. Jesse Armstrong really a very 122 00:05:55,220 --> 00:05:58,280 S2: smart man. So he you know, he's made the right call. 123 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,410 S2: I think as much as I am selfishly sad that 124 00:06:00,410 --> 00:06:02,659 S2: it will be coming to an end, I think like 125 00:06:02,660 --> 00:06:05,600 S2: it makes me even more excited for season four now because, 126 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,060 S2: you know, you're so much more invested in what's going 127 00:06:08,060 --> 00:06:09,770 S2: to happen. You know that it all has to come 128 00:06:09,770 --> 00:06:11,960 S2: to an end. So I'm very curious to see what 129 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:12,860 S2: he will do with it. 130 00:06:13,370 --> 00:06:15,500 S1: Yeah, I agree. I mean, I think this is a 131 00:06:15,500 --> 00:06:18,560 S1: show that I could watch ten more seasons of, you know, 132 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,290 S1: the dynamic between some of the characters, cousin Greg and Tom. 133 00:06:21,290 --> 00:06:24,260 S1: I could watch them episode after episode for the next 134 00:06:24,260 --> 00:06:27,589 S1: 20 years of my life. But you're right that it 135 00:06:27,589 --> 00:06:29,930 S1: feels like the stakes of the show have reached their 136 00:06:29,930 --> 00:06:34,610 S1: natural conclusion. That was almost that moment last season where, Wow, 137 00:06:34,610 --> 00:06:38,390 S1: have they killed Kendall? And then they clearly didn't. But 138 00:06:38,390 --> 00:06:40,940 S1: the way that this show is going is you're expecting 139 00:06:40,940 --> 00:06:44,990 S1: something significant. You want something significant. This show doesn't mess around. 140 00:06:44,990 --> 00:06:47,299 S1: It goes for it. It's an interrogation of some of 141 00:06:47,300 --> 00:06:50,630 S1: the most powerful people and institutions in the world right now. 142 00:06:50,630 --> 00:06:54,650 S1: It should end with something quite dramatic and significant. And 143 00:06:54,650 --> 00:06:56,510 S1: I think if it does, if that is a key 144 00:06:56,510 --> 00:06:59,450 S1: character death or something similar, then I think that's the 145 00:06:59,450 --> 00:07:01,159 S1: end of the show. And so I hope that's where 146 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,560 S1: we go. And I hope that's what is being telegraphed 147 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,350 S1: with Jesse Armstrong basically saying, we've got one left, let's 148 00:07:06,350 --> 00:07:09,440 S1: go for it. The other crazy thing is they're still 149 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,480 S1: filming this show. Like you said, it's coming out in 150 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,950 S1: March 27th. They are filming now. Right now. It's crazy. 151 00:07:15,950 --> 00:07:19,250 S2: That is crazy. Especially considering you think a show like Succession, 152 00:07:19,250 --> 00:07:21,890 S2: which is so, you know, involved and there's so much 153 00:07:21,890 --> 00:07:23,870 S2: going on that it would be all kind of like 154 00:07:23,870 --> 00:07:25,970 S2: wrapped and ready to go. And the fact that they're 155 00:07:25,970 --> 00:07:30,170 S2: still filming now is insane to me. Also, I think that, 156 00:07:30,260 --> 00:07:32,060 S2: you know, in this day and age where we talk 157 00:07:32,060 --> 00:07:34,910 S2: about TV so much, everything that happens between seasons of 158 00:07:34,910 --> 00:07:38,060 S2: these prestige shows means a lot more. And so you 159 00:07:38,060 --> 00:07:40,040 S2: do have this kind of like parallel narrative that I 160 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:44,180 S2: think people are really into of basically like Jeremy Strong 161 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,480 S2: and Brian Cox, like trading barbs in the media and 162 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,550 S2: I think that has also made me even more keen 163 00:07:49,550 --> 00:07:52,940 S2: to see because essentially, you know, Jeremy Strong is like 164 00:07:52,940 --> 00:07:54,350 S2: a bit of a method actor. He's done a couple 165 00:07:54,350 --> 00:07:57,080 S2: of those weird profiles up with The New Yorker and GQ, 166 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,810 S2: where he's kind of gone in on his method. And 167 00:07:59,930 --> 00:08:02,900 S2: at the same time, Brian Cox has very much been like, 168 00:08:02,900 --> 00:08:05,030 S2: This is all ridiculous. It's such a I think he 169 00:08:05,030 --> 00:08:08,480 S2: called it an American disease. And, you know, he kind 170 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:09,950 S2: of was like, I love Jeremy, but that whole thing 171 00:08:09,950 --> 00:08:12,350 S2: is stupid. He doesn't need to do It's unnecessary. Yeah. 172 00:08:12,350 --> 00:08:14,600 S2: And so I don't know. All that context just makes 173 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,960 S2: me think, oh, my God, it's like art imitating life. Like, 174 00:08:16,970 --> 00:08:17,890 S2: I can't wait. 175 00:08:17,900 --> 00:08:20,840 S1: It's really good. And, you know, Jeremy Strong's been in 176 00:08:21,050 --> 00:08:23,690 S1: is for movie Armageddon time. That was really great. Also 177 00:08:23,690 --> 00:08:27,020 S1: a very serious performance. We've seen Cousin Greg, you know, 178 00:08:27,020 --> 00:08:29,920 S1: he he was in Zola. He's in the new cat 179 00:08:29,930 --> 00:08:33,770 S1: person adaptation. It's so interesting that the succession universe kind 180 00:08:33,770 --> 00:08:36,770 S1: of now has gotten so many people excited about what 181 00:08:36,770 --> 00:08:39,530 S1: these people do outside of the actual show itself. 182 00:08:39,530 --> 00:08:41,270 S2: Yeah, for sure. And I also wonder, like, you know, 183 00:08:41,270 --> 00:08:42,830 S2: this is everyone's favorite thing to do when they have 184 00:08:42,830 --> 00:08:45,110 S2: a beloved show that is coming to an end. But 185 00:08:45,110 --> 00:08:47,329 S2: people are like, Oh, what? Is there any possible spin offs? 186 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,339 S2: I would, as you said, I would happily watch a 187 00:08:49,340 --> 00:08:51,890 S2: spinoff for most characters of that show, even if they 188 00:08:51,890 --> 00:08:54,800 S2: gave Alexander Skarsgard character like, you know, the tech giant 189 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,440 S2: who just doesn't really care about anything but can afford everything, 190 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,199 S2: you know, like, it wouldn't surprise me maybe if Jesse Armstrong, 191 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:01,610 S2: like took a year off and then came back with 192 00:09:01,610 --> 00:09:04,160 S2: something else that was in the succession universe, as is 193 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:05,209 S2: the kind of trend now. 194 00:09:05,510 --> 00:09:09,110 S1: Even like the B characters like Jerry and Carl, like 195 00:09:09,110 --> 00:09:11,150 S1: those guys, I just I just want to watch these 196 00:09:11,150 --> 00:09:13,189 S1: guys forever. And so I think that's why we said 197 00:09:13,190 --> 00:09:16,459 S1: it's bittersweet because the characters are so good. It's so funny, 198 00:09:16,460 --> 00:09:18,709 S1: the writers are so sharp. But when it comes to 199 00:09:18,710 --> 00:09:21,350 S1: the drama and story of the show, it makes sense. 200 00:09:21,350 --> 00:09:23,870 S1: And the other really exciting thing about this season is 201 00:09:24,110 --> 00:09:27,830 S1: will actually be recapping it week by week. You, me 202 00:09:27,830 --> 00:09:30,530 S1: and our colleague Mike Watson. When that show kicks off 203 00:09:30,530 --> 00:09:32,390 S1: at the end of March, we'll be doing weekly extra 204 00:09:32,390 --> 00:09:36,079 S1: episodes of that drop to dive into it, ranking the 205 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,530 S1: characters and how their moves are working and talking about 206 00:09:39,530 --> 00:09:41,750 S1: the show as it finishes. I'm really excited for that. 207 00:09:41,750 --> 00:09:42,559 S2: I can't wait. 208 00:09:43,100 --> 00:09:45,260 S1: Before we talk about some of the other big shows 209 00:09:45,260 --> 00:09:47,850 S1: that are coming up. In March. Let's talk about what 210 00:09:47,850 --> 00:09:50,220 S1: we're watching at the moment, because we're kind of, as 211 00:09:50,220 --> 00:09:52,590 S1: we said at the top of this conversation, starting to 212 00:09:52,590 --> 00:09:55,650 S1: get back into the swing of things. There's a show 213 00:09:55,650 --> 00:09:57,690 S1: that I'm really enjoying. I don't know if you are 214 00:09:57,690 --> 00:10:00,240 S1: a fan, Thomas, of the original Party Down, when it 215 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,490 S1: was released back in 2009. 216 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:07,260 S6: If you could please try and pretend to give 1/1,000,000 217 00:10:07,260 --> 00:10:08,520 S6: of a percent of a shit. 218 00:10:09,030 --> 00:10:11,970 S7: You guys suck at everything. 219 00:10:13,500 --> 00:10:14,550 S8: This was a. 220 00:10:14,550 --> 00:10:18,750 S1: Really funny ensemble comedy created by Rob Thomas, who I 221 00:10:18,750 --> 00:10:21,750 S1: think was best known then for Veronica mars, not Rob 222 00:10:21,750 --> 00:10:24,030 S1: Thomas from Matchbox 20. 223 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,329 S2: It's about to say if if it's the same Rob Thomas, 224 00:10:27,330 --> 00:10:28,890 S2: that guy is a jack of all trades. 225 00:10:29,130 --> 00:10:32,490 S1: It is not the same Rob Thomas. The show starred 226 00:10:32,490 --> 00:10:36,090 S1: Adam Scott, Lizzy Caplan, Ryan Hanson, who was from Veronica 227 00:10:36,090 --> 00:10:37,979 S1: mars as well, and Jane Lynch, who people would know 228 00:10:37,980 --> 00:10:40,800 S1: from Glee and a bunch of other amazing TV shows. 229 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:45,180 S1: I essentially was a bunch of out of work Hollywood 230 00:10:45,179 --> 00:10:49,110 S1: actors who were working for a catering company, often kind 231 00:10:49,110 --> 00:10:53,640 S1: of serving and working for real name Hollywood actors. And 232 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,579 S1: it was almost this meditate because these actors like Adam Scott, 233 00:10:56,580 --> 00:10:59,580 S1: Lizzy Caplan, Ryan Hanson, were certainly not at the peak 234 00:10:59,580 --> 00:11:02,010 S1: of their careers. Adam Scott obviously has gone on to 235 00:11:02,010 --> 00:11:05,309 S1: star in Severance, which is a huge show. Lizzy Caplan, 236 00:11:05,309 --> 00:11:07,140 S1: who said was in Flashman. She wanted to do Masters 237 00:11:07,140 --> 00:11:08,880 S1: of Sex. She's become a big name, but at the 238 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,410 S1: time was really known mainly for her role in Mean Girls. 239 00:11:13,410 --> 00:11:15,540 S1: And so it was these actors being caught at a 240 00:11:15,540 --> 00:11:17,760 S1: moment where they weren't quite sure where their careers were going, 241 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,270 S1: riffing on the state of acting instead of Hollywood. And 242 00:11:21,330 --> 00:11:23,640 S1: for two seasons, it got critical acclaim, but not a 243 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,060 S1: lot of viewers. It's been rebooted. It's very, very fun. 244 00:11:27,059 --> 00:11:30,510 S1: It's basically the same show again, but grappling with kind 245 00:11:30,510 --> 00:11:33,660 S1: of modern acting woes, like what happens when you're a 246 00:11:33,660 --> 00:11:36,480 S1: huge Hollywood actor, but people resurface. A video of you 247 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,410 S1: that seems to be suggesting that you support Nazis, for example, 248 00:11:40,410 --> 00:11:42,330 S1: but doing it in both a smart and fun way. 249 00:11:42,330 --> 00:11:45,270 S1: It's on Stan right now. It's it's great. And if 250 00:11:45,270 --> 00:11:48,929 S1: you're looking for 30 minute comedy could not recommend it anymore. 251 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,880 S2: Was this one of the ones that like. In terms 252 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,290 S2: of people's like 11 year gap between season two and three. 253 00:11:54,309 --> 00:11:56,290 S2: Was this like a fan driven thing, like Bring Back 254 00:11:56,290 --> 00:11:58,540 S2: Party Down or was it just like, Oh, actually we're 255 00:11:58,540 --> 00:12:01,030 S2: all kind of pretty famous now. We've got the star 256 00:12:01,030 --> 00:12:03,460 S2: power to say, Let's do this. It's a really good question. 257 00:12:03,460 --> 00:12:06,699 S1: Actually. Wasn't fan driven Like I think the fan base 258 00:12:06,700 --> 00:12:09,700 S1: was really so small. Even if they started a campaign, 259 00:12:09,700 --> 00:12:11,320 S1: no one would have cared. Which is what makes it 260 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,530 S1: so interesting because I think this has come from the 261 00:12:14,530 --> 00:12:16,810 S1: fact exactly right that the actors who are in it 262 00:12:16,809 --> 00:12:19,930 S1: originally are now so much bigger that if you put 263 00:12:19,929 --> 00:12:22,630 S1: them together again, even if no one watched the first 264 00:12:22,630 --> 00:12:24,160 S1: two seasons of the show, they're going to want to 265 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,770 S1: watch it now because it's got these names. Lizzy Caplan, 266 00:12:26,770 --> 00:12:29,439 S1: unfortunately has not returned, but I mean, just a show 267 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,960 S1: headlined by Adam Scott in a post severance World, I 268 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,690 S1: think is going to get a lot of attention. There's 269 00:12:34,690 --> 00:12:37,329 S1: a show on Netflix you're watching at the moment. Thomas 270 00:12:37,330 --> 00:12:38,560 S1: took us through that. Yes. 271 00:12:38,890 --> 00:12:42,490 S2: It's look, I'm watching Sex Life season two. My name 272 00:12:42,490 --> 00:12:43,780 S2: is Thomas and I'm watching Sex Life. 273 00:12:44,650 --> 00:12:48,970 S9: One of the most important decisions you'll ever make. Is 274 00:12:48,970 --> 00:12:50,280 S9: who to spend your life with. 275 00:12:53,670 --> 00:12:54,840 S10: I know I said. 276 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,689 S11: That everything was fine and I was hoping it would 277 00:12:57,690 --> 00:13:00,840 S11: be fine. But the truth is. 278 00:13:01,830 --> 00:13:01,960 S12: It's. 279 00:13:04,460 --> 00:13:07,010 S2: I actually really enjoyed season one. I mean, that doesn't 280 00:13:07,010 --> 00:13:09,680 S2: put me in the minority because it was a hugely 281 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,490 S2: successful show for Netflix. It sits firmly in the so 282 00:13:13,490 --> 00:13:16,940 S2: bad it's good category. So it stars Australian Adam Demos 283 00:13:16,940 --> 00:13:19,490 S2: and Sarah Shahi. And the first season was kind of like, 284 00:13:19,490 --> 00:13:22,580 S2: you know, he's her bad boy X she's happily married 285 00:13:22,580 --> 00:13:25,070 S2: but bored with her kind of like perfect life. They 286 00:13:25,070 --> 00:13:26,449 S2: bump into each other in New York and have this 287 00:13:26,450 --> 00:13:29,929 S2: like super steamy love affair. And the whole show is essentially, 288 00:13:29,929 --> 00:13:32,690 S2: you know, sex scene after sex scene. But it came out, 289 00:13:32,690 --> 00:13:35,570 S2: you know, at a it was 2021 was still in COVID. 290 00:13:35,570 --> 00:13:38,330 S2: People were stuck inside. They were a little bit horny. 291 00:13:38,330 --> 00:13:41,330 S2: And so like bang sex, life exploded. But we've had 292 00:13:41,330 --> 00:13:44,690 S2: to wait a really long time. And the second season 293 00:13:44,690 --> 00:13:48,260 S2: is currently number one on Netflix. Like, look, it's not great. 294 00:13:48,260 --> 00:13:49,910 S2: I don't enjoy it as much as I enjoyed the 295 00:13:49,910 --> 00:13:53,120 S2: first season, but still, like I found myself as soon 296 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,530 S2: as it was like next episode, I just like hit 297 00:13:54,530 --> 00:13:57,470 S2: next episode. It's no joke. There is a sex scene 298 00:13:57,470 --> 00:13:59,600 S2: like you don't wait more than five minutes, I reckon. 299 00:13:59,690 --> 00:14:01,670 S2: Like everybody's having sex on this show all the time. 300 00:14:01,670 --> 00:14:04,160 S2: The plot of this is even thinner. You know? She's 301 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,590 S2: like basically blowing up her life and she's run to 302 00:14:06,590 --> 00:14:09,020 S2: Adam Demos. But then he, he, you know, it's too little, 303 00:14:09,020 --> 00:14:11,030 S2: too late. He's moved on. And so she's kind of 304 00:14:11,030 --> 00:14:12,830 S2: like trying to be single in the city, which, of course, 305 00:14:12,830 --> 00:14:15,650 S2: is a format we've seen a million times before. But yeah, 306 00:14:15,650 --> 00:14:19,160 S2: clearly people really like sex life. So whether that speaks 307 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,530 S2: to just the fact that in this day and age, 308 00:14:21,530 --> 00:14:25,580 S2: sex still sells, or maybe people are kind of curious enough, 309 00:14:25,580 --> 00:14:27,740 S2: like the first season kind of became so famous because 310 00:14:27,740 --> 00:14:29,420 S2: there was a full frontal nudity scene of a man 311 00:14:29,420 --> 00:14:32,750 S2: in a shower with, you know, quite a serious appendage. 312 00:14:32,990 --> 00:14:36,020 S2: They do they do give you like and pretty much 313 00:14:36,020 --> 00:14:38,330 S2: as soon as season two was like confirmed, everyone was like, 314 00:14:38,330 --> 00:14:41,330 S2: will there be another shower scene? And I can confirm 315 00:14:41,330 --> 00:14:43,520 S2: there is another shower scene. Different guy this. 316 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,170 S1: Time. The sex life fans. Yeah. 317 00:14:45,170 --> 00:14:48,140 S2: Oh my god. And like even more pixels required this time. 318 00:14:48,140 --> 00:14:50,450 S2: I don't know where they're finding these guys but yeah. 319 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:55,430 S1: Really really interesting as well. Hearing about the full frontal nudity, 320 00:14:55,430 --> 00:14:57,290 S1: like you wrote this great piece for us last week 321 00:14:57,290 --> 00:15:00,740 S1: about how there's this debate in Hollywood in Netflix as 322 00:15:00,740 --> 00:15:04,010 S1: well about sex scenes and the future of them. I 323 00:15:04,010 --> 00:15:07,609 S1: think the introduction of intimacy coordinators has changed the game 324 00:15:07,610 --> 00:15:09,590 S1: and made actors feel a lot safe. But you've also 325 00:15:09,590 --> 00:15:12,020 S1: got actors like Penn Badgley from you who says he 326 00:15:12,020 --> 00:15:14,420 S1: doesn't want to film sex scenes anymore. So really interesting 327 00:15:14,420 --> 00:15:16,730 S1: that there is still this big Netflix show that is 328 00:15:16,730 --> 00:15:19,940 S1: just leaning into the raunch. Even as others like you 329 00:15:19,940 --> 00:15:22,880 S1: mentioned in the piece, Bridgerton have sort of wound back 330 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,890 S1: the sex, which there was so well known for. 331 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,260 S2: Yeah, it's funny, especially with you. That's a good example 332 00:15:27,260 --> 00:15:29,660 S2: because you was a very sex heavy show at the 333 00:15:29,660 --> 00:15:32,300 S2: scenes in that were quite raunchy. And then Penn Badgley 334 00:15:32,300 --> 00:15:34,310 S2: has come out and said, Oh look I personally requested 335 00:15:34,310 --> 00:15:37,400 S2: fewer sex scenes for season four, but season four is 336 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,010 S2: still very popular. And that's another one, an interesting one 337 00:15:40,010 --> 00:15:42,050 S2: for Netflix because it's one of the first ones where 338 00:15:42,050 --> 00:15:44,690 S2: they've split it. So the first I think five episodes 339 00:15:44,690 --> 00:15:47,030 S2: came out a couple of weeks ago and then they're 340 00:15:47,030 --> 00:15:49,130 S2: obviously trying to like drip feed now a little bit 341 00:15:49,130 --> 00:15:52,550 S2: more without breaking the Netflix model. Part two. Season four 342 00:15:52,550 --> 00:15:54,650 S2: comes out March 9th on Netflix. 343 00:15:55,190 --> 00:15:56,810 S13: Do you really know what you want, Jonathan? 344 00:16:00,180 --> 00:16:01,800 UU: Kate. Of course I want you. 345 00:16:02,970 --> 00:16:04,320 S14: But I can't have you. 346 00:16:05,410 --> 00:16:07,390 S15: We all have something bad in us. 347 00:16:08,450 --> 00:16:12,520 UU: Not this part. Sweet. 348 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,100 S16: Jonathan. You have no idea, do you? 349 00:16:16,750 --> 00:16:19,620 S2: So it's funny that they're starting to experiment with that. They. 350 00:16:19,850 --> 00:16:23,080 S2: They don't want to break away from their famous Netflix model. 351 00:16:23,110 --> 00:16:26,170 S1: It's interesting that Netflix pioneered the binge, but has in 352 00:16:26,170 --> 00:16:29,290 S1: a few instances, either wound it back totally or is 353 00:16:29,290 --> 00:16:32,170 S1: experimenting with these drops. I wonder whether it's just because 354 00:16:32,170 --> 00:16:35,140 S1: there was so much TV now that people don't have 355 00:16:35,140 --> 00:16:37,240 S1: the time or they don't want to just watch one 356 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,370 S1: show over the course of 2 or 3 days, they 357 00:16:39,370 --> 00:16:42,640 S1: kind of like watching a few different shows over a 358 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,430 S1: few different days and building up that hype week to week. 359 00:16:45,430 --> 00:16:48,100 S1: It sort of felt like with shows like Emily in Paris, 360 00:16:48,100 --> 00:16:51,580 S1: even though that was so popular, despite, I think that 361 00:16:51,580 --> 00:16:55,239 S1: dubious quality, they came out on a weekend. Everyone watched it. 362 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:56,980 S1: You talked about it that weekend and you just moved 363 00:16:56,980 --> 00:16:59,170 S1: on straight away. You weren't really getting bang for your buck. 364 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,180 S2: Yeah, I think this is a Netflix trying to have 365 00:17:01,180 --> 00:17:02,890 S2: the best of both worlds where they like we can't 366 00:17:02,890 --> 00:17:05,530 S2: ditch the model because that's like our thing. But if 367 00:17:05,530 --> 00:17:07,659 S2: we do like, Oh, you can binge part one now 368 00:17:07,660 --> 00:17:09,760 S2: and then, you know, we'll wait two weeks or a 369 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,740 S2: month and then you can talk about that and we'll 370 00:17:12,130 --> 00:17:14,710 S2: stretch the longevity. And then here's part two. So yeah, 371 00:17:14,710 --> 00:17:16,540 S2: it was interesting to see how it goes with you. 372 00:17:16,540 --> 00:17:19,180 S2: But yeah, it's March 9th on Netflix. Proven pretty popular 373 00:17:19,180 --> 00:17:19,689 S2: so far. 374 00:17:22,990 --> 00:17:24,720 S1: The other show that I'm watching at the moment actually 375 00:17:24,730 --> 00:17:29,149 S1: don't know much about your takes on the Star Wars universe. 376 00:17:29,170 --> 00:17:30,970 S1: You were Star Wars guy, Thomas. 377 00:17:31,180 --> 00:17:33,180 S2: I'm not a Star Wars guy. I've kind of like 378 00:17:33,190 --> 00:17:35,770 S2: orbited the universe from afar and I've seen the films 379 00:17:35,770 --> 00:17:37,750 S2: and stuff. But, you know, The Mandalorian, it's one of 380 00:17:37,750 --> 00:17:40,600 S2: those ones that people almost like when they bring it 381 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:41,680 S2: up and I say, I don't watch it. You can 382 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,440 S2: see the, like, crestfallen look on their face. 383 00:17:44,770 --> 00:17:47,889 S1: It's interesting because the show, it's such a when it 384 00:17:47,890 --> 00:17:49,570 S1: came out. We're up to season three now, which is 385 00:17:49,570 --> 00:17:52,119 S1: on Disney Plus at the moment. But when it first 386 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,970 S1: aired a couple of years ago, like The Mandalorian is 387 00:17:54,970 --> 00:17:58,060 S1: not even a character that features in the rest of 388 00:17:58,060 --> 00:18:00,250 S1: the Star Wars universe. I think maybe in some of 389 00:18:00,250 --> 00:18:03,369 S1: the animated series as kind of references to some of 390 00:18:03,369 --> 00:18:05,500 S1: the issues that are in the show, but it became 391 00:18:05,500 --> 00:18:07,960 S1: so big, so fast and I think really had to 392 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,020 S1: do with the introduction of what fans call baby Yoda, 393 00:18:11,020 --> 00:18:14,500 S1: This character Grogu, who is very cute and very sweet 394 00:18:14,500 --> 00:18:17,410 S1: and really is, I think, the heart and soul of 395 00:18:17,410 --> 00:18:21,669 S1: the show. Pedro Pascal plays the titular Mandalorian, but it's amazing, 396 00:18:21,670 --> 00:18:23,770 S1: like he's not in it. Like you don't even know 397 00:18:23,770 --> 00:18:26,080 S1: if that's him in the suits. Play a stunt man. 398 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,720 S1: Half the time you see his face, I think twice 399 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,950 S1: across two and a half seasons. So back for season three. 400 00:18:32,950 --> 00:18:35,050 S1: First episode came out last week. 401 00:18:35,980 --> 00:18:41,650 S17: Our people are scattered like stars in the galaxy. What 402 00:18:41,650 --> 00:18:44,260 S17: are we What do we stand for? 403 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,960 S1: The mandolin is really interesting. And when I say interesting, 404 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,200 S1: I really mean confusing because there was another show called 405 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,650 S1: The Book of Boba Fett that was supposed to be 406 00:18:58,650 --> 00:19:01,889 S1: another standalone Star Wars show. There's a bunch of them now, 407 00:19:01,890 --> 00:19:05,070 S1: another live action standalone show. But halfway through the book 408 00:19:05,070 --> 00:19:07,800 S1: of Boba Fett, it seems like the creators just gave 409 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:12,750 S1: up and created the Mandalorian. So five episodes of the 410 00:19:12,750 --> 00:19:16,649 S1: book of Boba Fett just become the Mandalorian season 2.5. 411 00:19:16,650 --> 00:19:19,290 S1: And if you didn't watch that, Season three is kind 412 00:19:19,290 --> 00:19:22,020 S1: of confusing, though They do try and explain some of 413 00:19:22,020 --> 00:19:24,000 S1: what's going on, but then you end up if you've 414 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,580 S1: watched everything, you're like, Why are we wasting time going 415 00:19:26,580 --> 00:19:28,950 S1: through this again? And if you haven't watched the book 416 00:19:28,950 --> 00:19:32,160 S1: of Boba Fett, you're kind of like, Why is this happening? 417 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,190 S1: Why is this guy back? Who was that character? Why 418 00:19:35,190 --> 00:19:37,080 S1: are you explaining these things that seem to not really 419 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,080 S1: need explanation? So all of that is to say, I 420 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,890 S1: think the season three return of the show is perhaps 421 00:19:43,890 --> 00:19:47,189 S1: a bit more confused and muddled than the first. Two 422 00:19:47,190 --> 00:19:50,310 S1: seasons were very tight, very fun and very cute with 423 00:19:50,310 --> 00:19:52,649 S1: baby Yoda. But if you love baby Yoda, there's a 424 00:19:52,650 --> 00:19:54,899 S1: lot of him in this. He's cuter than ever. A 425 00:19:54,900 --> 00:19:57,000 S1: lot of other cute little puppets as well. I think 426 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,650 S1: this show is it's a fun part of the Star 427 00:19:58,650 --> 00:19:59,369 S1: Wars universe. 428 00:19:59,369 --> 00:20:01,020 S2: But see, this is the thing. I always think, like 429 00:20:01,230 --> 00:20:04,469 S2: the Mandalorian has been touted not just by you, but 430 00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:06,330 S2: by loads of people as one of the best TV 431 00:20:06,330 --> 00:20:08,340 S2: shows of the past few years. But as soon as 432 00:20:08,340 --> 00:20:10,350 S2: you like mentioned to people, I'm not really a Star 433 00:20:10,350 --> 00:20:12,659 S2: Wars person, they'll always say like, Oh no, but you 434 00:20:12,660 --> 00:20:14,850 S2: don't need to be into Star Wars to watch the Mandalorian. 435 00:20:14,850 --> 00:20:17,700 S2: But then is that really true? Like, you know, for 436 00:20:17,700 --> 00:20:19,619 S2: someone like me or other people who are listening who 437 00:20:19,619 --> 00:20:22,709 S2: are just aren't, you know, like Star Wars adjacent, I 438 00:20:22,710 --> 00:20:24,960 S2: just don't have, you know, a grasp on the world, maybe. 439 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,639 S2: Have you ever seen the films? Can you sit down 440 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,250 S2: and watch The Mandalorian and just instantly be in the world, 441 00:20:29,250 --> 00:20:31,140 S2: or will you constantly be like, What is going on? Yeah, 442 00:20:31,140 --> 00:20:31,500 S2: I think The. 443 00:20:31,500 --> 00:20:35,040 S1: Mandalorian is a show that is designed by huge Star 444 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,440 S1: Wars nerds for huge Star Wars nerds. Like I'm sure 445 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,540 S1: there are people who are not into Star Wars that 446 00:20:39,540 --> 00:20:41,340 S1: gave the show a go and have maybe read up 447 00:20:41,340 --> 00:20:43,350 S1: the Wikipedia and stuff and have figured it all out. 448 00:20:43,350 --> 00:20:45,600 S1: But I do think it really only works if you're 449 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,240 S1: a big fan. I think the show that stands alone, 450 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,880 S1: which was far and away the best Star Wars show made, 451 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,490 S1: came out last year and or that is like a 452 00:20:53,490 --> 00:20:57,330 S1: spy drama in the world of Star Wars that doesn't 453 00:20:57,330 --> 00:21:00,000 S1: really have too many space battles or even too many aliens. 454 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,810 S1: It's a very human character driven story. I think that's 455 00:21:03,810 --> 00:21:05,340 S1: the one to get into. If you don't know much 456 00:21:05,340 --> 00:21:08,760 S1: about Star Wars, But the Mandalorian is pretty rich and 457 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,850 S1: deep on its lore. So look, it's back. It's fun 458 00:21:11,850 --> 00:21:14,250 S1: if you're into it. But I kind of agree with you. Like, 459 00:21:14,250 --> 00:21:17,820 S1: don't sweat if you're not into the Star Wars universe. 460 00:21:17,940 --> 00:21:19,950 S2: I was going to say, you said the words human 461 00:21:19,950 --> 00:21:22,590 S2: character driven show, which of course is a natural segue 462 00:21:22,590 --> 00:21:24,270 S2: to TED Lasso Season three. 463 00:21:29,740 --> 00:21:32,889 S18: Well, if seeing is believing. I believe we've been seeing. 464 00:21:34,850 --> 00:21:35,870 UU: And I still believe. 465 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,419 S2: I actually am so excited for this. Again, similar in 466 00:21:40,420 --> 00:21:42,550 S2: the way to succession. Like I love the show anyway, 467 00:21:42,550 --> 00:21:46,150 S2: but also everything that's happened between seasons makes me want 468 00:21:46,150 --> 00:21:48,460 S2: to watch the show more because there has been weird 469 00:21:48,460 --> 00:21:51,430 S2: time for the production of that show. There's been delays. 470 00:21:51,430 --> 00:21:55,780 S2: Jason Sudeikis I guess his personal life has been a 471 00:21:55,780 --> 00:21:58,270 S2: talking point and that naturally makes you more curious. The 472 00:21:58,270 --> 00:22:00,460 S2: show has been delayed, I think, for maybe six months. 473 00:22:00,670 --> 00:22:03,640 S2: We're finally getting season three on Apple. I think March 15th, 474 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,850 S2: it arrives here and possibly the last season. It hasn't 475 00:22:06,850 --> 00:22:09,340 S2: been confirmed, but that's the rumor. But I mean, yeah, 476 00:22:09,369 --> 00:22:11,170 S2: Ted Lasso is such a funny one in this current 477 00:22:11,170 --> 00:22:15,490 S2: climate because it's so wholesome. It's so feel good. It's 478 00:22:15,490 --> 00:22:17,560 S2: almost the type of show normally people would not really 479 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,500 S2: fall in love with, but it's like phenomenally successful. 480 00:22:20,500 --> 00:22:22,930 S1: It feels like an anachronism, right? Like it's so saccharine. 481 00:22:22,930 --> 00:22:24,940 S1: It's like this is not what we want from these 482 00:22:24,940 --> 00:22:27,369 S1: kinds of shows anymore. But I do think it's shifting 483 00:22:27,369 --> 00:22:29,980 S1: in its tone. I think that first season landed and 484 00:22:29,980 --> 00:22:33,520 S1: blew up because in COVID in lockdown, it just felt 485 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,889 S1: like something that was a bit of an antidote to everything. 486 00:22:35,890 --> 00:22:38,560 S1: Like I watched and rewatch Season one of Ted Lasso 487 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,649 S1: like six times when I was in deep depths of 488 00:22:41,650 --> 00:22:44,859 S1: lockdown here in Melbourne. I feel like the second season 489 00:22:44,859 --> 00:22:48,730 S1: has shifted tone a bit, like it still has those sweet, 490 00:22:48,730 --> 00:22:51,790 S1: nice moments. But we've seen some of these characters like 491 00:22:51,790 --> 00:22:54,730 S1: Nate really take a turn to the dark side. It's 492 00:22:54,730 --> 00:22:57,340 S1: becoming more tense. I mean, how do you feel about that? 493 00:22:57,340 --> 00:22:59,169 S1: How do you feel about that tonal shift and the 494 00:22:59,170 --> 00:23:01,659 S1: fact that season three, from what we've seen in trailers 495 00:23:01,660 --> 00:23:04,060 S1: so far, seems to really be leaning into some of 496 00:23:04,060 --> 00:23:04,990 S1: the grimness? 497 00:23:05,500 --> 00:23:08,830 S2: Yeah, I think that's probably to be expected. And I 498 00:23:08,830 --> 00:23:10,630 S2: think the way they set Nate up and then sent 499 00:23:10,630 --> 00:23:12,790 S2: him off at the end of season two was great. 500 00:23:12,790 --> 00:23:14,860 S2: I'm really interested to see like, you know, what I 501 00:23:14,859 --> 00:23:16,990 S2: find really funny as well about these big TV shows 502 00:23:16,990 --> 00:23:20,650 S2: that we're sweating on, whether it's like just overanalyzing because 503 00:23:20,650 --> 00:23:22,270 S2: we're so desperate for them. But you can really tell 504 00:23:22,270 --> 00:23:24,100 S2: a lot about them from the way they do the 505 00:23:24,100 --> 00:23:27,220 S2: trailer drops. So if the trailer for season three, there's 506 00:23:27,220 --> 00:23:29,200 S2: like two words of dialogue that you get. No, there's 507 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,320 S2: no like, this is what's coming. And, you know, we 508 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,419 S2: kind of see a bit of Nate's journey, but it 509 00:23:34,420 --> 00:23:36,940 S2: was very telling just from the song choice. You know, 510 00:23:36,940 --> 00:23:39,550 S2: this is again, probably going to be a darker, edgier 511 00:23:39,550 --> 00:23:41,710 S2: TED lasso. We're not going back to like the fun 512 00:23:41,710 --> 00:23:46,060 S2: times like, oh geez, of season one. But I'm into that. 513 00:23:46,060 --> 00:23:48,399 S2: You know, I think it'll be really good. And and 514 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,320 S2: I think, you know, Nate Nick played by Nick Mohammed, 515 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,959 S2: he is such an interesting character. You know, that Breaking 516 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,900 S2: Bad turn he had was was perfectly timed. He's now 517 00:23:55,900 --> 00:23:58,090 S2: managing West Ham. And, you know, you get a sense 518 00:23:58,090 --> 00:24:01,300 S2: in the trailer that that maybe he's very cool. He 519 00:24:01,300 --> 00:24:03,580 S2: is still a good guy. He just wants he really 520 00:24:03,580 --> 00:24:06,879 S2: just wants Ted to love him. And you get a 521 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,250 S2: sense that maybe there will be a coming together of 522 00:24:09,250 --> 00:24:10,959 S2: those two again. But yeah, I thought the trailer was 523 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,520 S2: very interesting the way they decided to just use that 524 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,110 S2: song and just kind of tease it out. 525 00:24:14,109 --> 00:24:16,570 S1: Yeah, I'm really interested to see what the show goes like. 526 00:24:16,570 --> 00:24:19,540 S1: I hope that it's great. I am a little bit nervous. 527 00:24:19,540 --> 00:24:22,060 S1: I just, you know, whenever you hear about production delays 528 00:24:22,060 --> 00:24:25,660 S1: and you hear about problems on set, doesn't really fill 529 00:24:25,660 --> 00:24:27,850 S1: you with confidence. And I do think that the second 530 00:24:27,850 --> 00:24:30,489 S1: season was a bit more hit and miss than the 531 00:24:30,490 --> 00:24:33,790 S1: first one. But I think like there's something happening that 532 00:24:33,790 --> 00:24:36,100 S1: is interesting. I think, like I was saying about succession, 533 00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:38,260 S1: on one hand, this show could go on forever, but 534 00:24:38,260 --> 00:24:40,179 S1: you do want some drama, you want some tension, you 535 00:24:40,180 --> 00:24:42,740 S1: want some resolution. I think if Ted Lasso was 3 536 00:24:42,740 --> 00:24:45,940 S1: or 4 seasons of just, Oh, jeepers, guys, let's play 537 00:24:45,940 --> 00:24:48,820 S1: songs and bake some cookies, that would be probably pretty 538 00:24:48,820 --> 00:24:50,380 S1: grating after a while. 539 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,570 S2: I think so too. I did find it interesting. I 540 00:24:52,570 --> 00:24:55,540 S2: saw that the last episode of this season airs on 541 00:24:55,540 --> 00:24:58,359 S2: May 31st, which is the last day of like voting 542 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,850 S2: for Emmy eligibility. So the season is coming off like 543 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,939 S2: two seasons. It's won outstanding comedy series two years running 544 00:25:03,940 --> 00:25:06,520 S2: like most people kind of expect it to take, you know, 545 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,160 S2: the hat trick. But that being said, there are a 546 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,870 S2: few other comedies and, you know, Hacks will be back 547 00:25:10,869 --> 00:25:13,570 S2: later this year as well. So that's been a favorite. 548 00:25:13,570 --> 00:25:14,950 S2: But yeah, it would be it'd be curious to see 549 00:25:14,950 --> 00:25:16,960 S2: how that goes because it is big awards bait, like 550 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,030 S2: it's done so well since it came out. It's interesting. 551 00:25:19,030 --> 00:25:21,160 S1: You mentioned that Emmys deadline, because I do think that 552 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,409 S1: is a big reason why we are going to be 553 00:25:23,410 --> 00:25:26,050 S1: seeing a glut of new shows coming out in the 554 00:25:26,050 --> 00:25:27,010 S1: next couple of months. 555 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,110 S2: For sure. And it makes it does kind of create 556 00:25:29,109 --> 00:25:31,240 S2: this thing like I already feel like so many people 557 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,050 S2: that I talk to about TV, like talking about choice paralysis, like, oh, 558 00:25:35,050 --> 00:25:36,550 S2: I want to watch that, but I just don't have 559 00:25:36,550 --> 00:25:39,609 S2: the time. Or I find myself not like missing shows 560 00:25:39,609 --> 00:25:42,670 S2: because I there's just like too much out there. So 561 00:25:42,670 --> 00:25:45,070 S2: it is kind of creating this strange problem for audiences 562 00:25:45,070 --> 00:25:47,740 S2: where they all just want to be eligible for the 563 00:25:47,740 --> 00:25:49,990 S2: Emmys and the Globes. And so they like save themselves 564 00:25:49,990 --> 00:25:52,480 S2: for this period. And then you have stuff like Fleishman 565 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:53,619 S2: getting lost at the end of the year, which is 566 00:25:53,619 --> 00:25:54,669 S2: like an amazing TV show. 567 00:25:54,700 --> 00:25:56,800 S1: Let's let's quickly throw a couple of others coming out 568 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:57,940 S1: and then I want to talk to you about an 569 00:25:57,940 --> 00:26:01,540 S1: Australian show that is about to drop later on in March. 570 00:26:01,540 --> 00:26:03,699 S1: So in terms of shows that I think are definitely 571 00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:06,760 S1: going to be in the Emmys conversation, there's Lucky Hank, 572 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,090 S1: which is the new kind of dark comedy from Bob Odenkirk, 573 00:26:10,090 --> 00:26:12,970 S1: who's just finished up Better Call. Saul is an extraordinary 574 00:26:12,970 --> 00:26:15,990 S1: actor and extraordinary performance in that show. He's playing a 575 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,730 S1: kind of down on his luck English professor in this 576 00:26:18,730 --> 00:26:21,310 S1: small town in the Rust Belt of Pennsylvania. It sort 577 00:26:21,310 --> 00:26:24,220 S1: of seems to be a show that is interrogating both, 578 00:26:24,220 --> 00:26:27,940 S1: I guess, working class American towns as well as the 579 00:26:27,940 --> 00:26:31,210 S1: kinds of dramas and tensions that play out in the 580 00:26:31,210 --> 00:26:34,270 S1: literature departments of modern American universities. And it's a bit 581 00:26:34,270 --> 00:26:37,250 S1: of a kind of relationship, marriage, drama. As well. That's 582 00:26:37,250 --> 00:26:40,310 S1: out on Stan here in Australia on March 20th. And 583 00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:42,800 S1: then the other show that's coming back for its second season, 584 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:47,090 S1: which got a lot of critical acclaim, is Yellowjackets, which 585 00:26:47,090 --> 00:26:52,580 S1: hits Paramount+ on March 25th. But Thomas, let's talk about. 586 00:26:53,090 --> 00:26:56,719 S1: The Tasmanian wilderness because there's something that you're very excited 587 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,760 S1: about that is happening at the end of March. 588 00:26:59,060 --> 00:27:03,530 S2: Yes, that is right now. I hope that people listening 589 00:27:03,530 --> 00:27:06,470 S2: to this podcast have had the joy of experiencing alone 590 00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:09,500 S2: so alone. It's originally a Danish show, but it's become 591 00:27:09,500 --> 00:27:12,530 S2: popular around the world essentially. You know, the premise is 592 00:27:12,530 --> 00:27:16,340 S2: production finds ten people who consider themselves survivalists drops them 593 00:27:16,340 --> 00:27:18,770 S2: in a remote corner of the world where it's being filmed, 594 00:27:18,770 --> 00:27:21,080 S2: and they essentially have to survive for as long as 595 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,230 S2: they possibly can. And it's last man standing. Whoever is 596 00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:27,139 S2: the person who can survive the longest in the wild winds, 597 00:27:27,140 --> 00:27:30,230 S2: you know, X amount of money and it's become so 598 00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:33,560 S2: popular it was one of SBS on demand, higher streaming, 599 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,080 S2: you know, kind of international shows. And so lo and behold, 600 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,110 S2: they commissioned a local version. It was announced last year. 601 00:27:39,109 --> 00:27:41,930 S2: We're finally getting getting it now. I think it arrives 602 00:27:41,930 --> 00:27:44,209 S2: on 29th of March. It's 11 parts and it was 603 00:27:44,210 --> 00:27:46,940 S2: filmed in the remote wilderness of Tasmania. 604 00:27:48,770 --> 00:27:57,310 UU: Hello. Oh, my God. Who wants to. 605 00:27:57,310 --> 00:28:00,820 S19: Sit out there cold, miserable the longest. Congratulations. You win. 606 00:28:02,530 --> 00:28:03,280 S20: Here. You got one. 607 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,550 S2: I think this is going to be a massive hit 608 00:28:06,550 --> 00:28:09,550 S2: for SBS on demand. It's, you know, alone has such 609 00:28:09,550 --> 00:28:12,040 S2: a cult following. And the first when I first watched it, 610 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,200 S2: I was like, Oh, I've seen like this show ten 611 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,340 S2: different times before, but alone is like proper. There's no 612 00:28:18,340 --> 00:28:20,590 S2: cameraman with them. They have they have to set up 613 00:28:20,590 --> 00:28:23,050 S2: their own camera to capture all that like it is 614 00:28:23,290 --> 00:28:26,859 S2: seriously confronting. And you know, they in the Canadian series, 615 00:28:26,859 --> 00:28:29,110 S2: like the first episode, this guy gets like surrounded by 616 00:28:29,109 --> 00:28:31,780 S2: a pack of grizzlies. Like this is real deal stuff. 617 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,480 S2: I'm not sure what is the most terrifying thing in 618 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:35,590 S2: the Tasmanian wilderness. 619 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,130 S1: Tasmanian Tigers. They're kind of scary, right? Yeah. And so 620 00:28:39,310 --> 00:28:41,830 S1: they're the ones that are extinct. Tasmanian Devils, They're pretty scary. Yeah. 621 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,230 S2: If you saw a pack of Tasmanian tigers, that would 622 00:28:44,230 --> 00:28:47,620 S2: be really terrifying. Um, you'd be in some kind of 623 00:28:47,620 --> 00:28:50,770 S2: lost scenario. But yeah, I think people will really love this. 624 00:28:50,770 --> 00:28:53,920 S2: You know, it is something different. I really hope that 625 00:28:53,980 --> 00:28:56,080 S2: SBS have kind of kept the essence of what made 626 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,150 S2: the show so popular, but I'm sure they will have. 627 00:28:58,150 --> 00:29:00,340 S2: I'm picking it early. This could be a bit of 628 00:29:00,340 --> 00:29:01,630 S2: a sleeper hit for us on demand. 629 00:29:01,630 --> 00:29:03,760 S1: Yeah, I'm with you, I think. I think alone is 630 00:29:03,850 --> 00:29:06,580 S1: an extraordinary franchise. I mean, people, when you describe it, 631 00:29:06,580 --> 00:29:09,010 S1: they think of like Survivor. But this is really nothing 632 00:29:09,010 --> 00:29:11,590 S1: like Survivor. This is not about group dynamics. It's not 633 00:29:11,590 --> 00:29:15,550 S1: about voting people out. This is people who are survivalist experts, 634 00:29:15,550 --> 00:29:18,940 S1: like deep weirdos who know how to live on their 635 00:29:18,940 --> 00:29:21,190 S1: own for months at a time. And, you know, some 636 00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:23,380 S1: of the reasons people I think they call it tapping 637 00:29:23,380 --> 00:29:27,190 S1: out when they kind of press the siren on their 638 00:29:27,190 --> 00:29:29,440 S1: thing and get someone to chopper them out. Sometimes it's 639 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,320 S1: because they get a stomach parasite because they couldn't get 640 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,050 S1: fresh water. Sometimes it's because they've been attacked by an animal. 641 00:29:35,050 --> 00:29:37,990 S1: Sometimes it's because they are just going crazy from not 642 00:29:37,990 --> 00:29:41,590 S1: talking to anyone for three months. It's fascinating, this show. 643 00:29:41,620 --> 00:29:45,130 S2: There's proper, like, you know, pushing the human body to 644 00:29:45,130 --> 00:29:47,200 S2: its absolute limits. And I find that every time I 645 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,210 S2: watch the show, like with my wife, with friends, it's 646 00:29:49,210 --> 00:29:51,220 S2: one of those things where you're actually like, Oh my God. 647 00:29:51,220 --> 00:29:52,900 S2: Like I would never like or like, How long do 648 00:29:52,900 --> 00:29:54,730 S2: you think you would last? I would. I don't reckon 649 00:29:54,730 --> 00:29:56,050 S2: I would last, like 24 hours. 650 00:29:56,050 --> 00:29:57,790 S1: Yeah, I'd be like 3 to 4 hours for me. 651 00:29:57,790 --> 00:29:58,600 S1: I'd want to go home. 652 00:29:58,810 --> 00:30:01,120 S2: Yeah, I know. I would like cramp up, and then 653 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,670 S2: that would be it. My blood sugar would drop and 654 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,130 S2: I would be cranky and I would be hitting that siren. 655 00:30:06,130 --> 00:30:08,800 S2: It's great, you know, kind of watercooler TV. And I'm 656 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,510 S2: curious to see if people get around it. 657 00:30:10,510 --> 00:30:12,790 S1: Yeah, that's a really great shot. I'm super excited about 658 00:30:12,790 --> 00:30:14,950 S1: that coming. There's a couple of other shows. Tom is 659 00:30:15,130 --> 00:30:17,830 S1: a bit wackier, but I have a feeling they're going 660 00:30:17,830 --> 00:30:20,920 S1: to be huge talking points this year. The first one 661 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,170 S1: is a show called The Power. 662 00:30:24,700 --> 00:30:27,459 S18: Today we have a story that's going to change the world. 663 00:30:27,930 --> 00:30:31,900 S11: Yes, that's in Nigeria. Electricity coming out of their hands. 664 00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:33,040 S11: All teenage girls. 665 00:30:33,220 --> 00:30:35,230 S16: Mom, I know some can like aim it. 666 00:30:35,230 --> 00:30:38,600 S18: How does yours work? Hey. Hey. 667 00:30:40,620 --> 00:30:42,810 S17: There was one girl. I'd say it was a mutation. 668 00:30:43,810 --> 00:30:47,960 S1: But it's hundreds and thousands. So this was a novel 669 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,960 S1: that was super, super popular. It's a book that I 670 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,170 S1: really enjoyed. By Naomi Alderman, who's part of the team 671 00:30:54,170 --> 00:30:57,080 S1: adapting it for television as well. In the novel, which 672 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,690 S1: is sort of set in our world, everything seems normal, 673 00:30:59,690 --> 00:31:03,110 S1: but one day all the teenage girls in the world 674 00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:07,220 S1: get this power to control electricity and they can electrocute 675 00:31:07,220 --> 00:31:09,950 S1: people at will. They can do a little shock that 676 00:31:09,950 --> 00:31:11,930 S1: kind of annoys them. Or they can even like kill them. 677 00:31:11,930 --> 00:31:16,040 S1: And over time, they help older women discover this power 678 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,020 S1: within themselves as well. So you end up with a 679 00:31:18,020 --> 00:31:20,570 S1: situation where every woman on earth can electrocute whoever they 680 00:31:20,570 --> 00:31:23,750 S1: want at will. And that fundamentally, as you might expect, 681 00:31:23,750 --> 00:31:29,360 S1: reshapes how society functions and who has power. So really interesting, 682 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,140 S1: really popular book TV adaptation. Just that idea is already 683 00:31:33,140 --> 00:31:35,300 S1: super interesting. But then you look at the cost. The 684 00:31:35,300 --> 00:31:38,150 S1: lead is Australia's Toni Collette, who I think is one 685 00:31:38,150 --> 00:31:39,980 S1: of the best actors of our time. 686 00:31:39,980 --> 00:31:43,160 S2: Toni Collette is seriously building up the most diverse body 687 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,100 S2: of work like she's done, like wacky comedies. Obviously we 688 00:31:46,190 --> 00:31:48,170 S2: love her from that Muriel's Wedding. Then she does like 689 00:31:48,170 --> 00:31:51,920 S2: creepy A24 films. Now she's doing sci fi like she 690 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,260 S2: has got to be one of the most diverse character 691 00:31:54,260 --> 00:31:55,540 S2: actors that we've ever produced. 692 00:31:55,550 --> 00:31:57,200 S1: Amazing. Not to mention a sort of weird kind of 693 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,930 S1: hippy ish turn in Knives out, like, which was, I thought, 694 00:31:59,930 --> 00:32:02,490 S1: one of the favorite favourite bits of that of that film. 695 00:32:02,510 --> 00:32:05,180 S1: It also stars John Leguizamo, who I love and I 696 00:32:05,180 --> 00:32:08,810 S1: think most recently been enjoying in the John Wick franchise. 697 00:32:08,810 --> 00:32:13,880 S1: He's great in that. Auli'i Cravalho who played Moana in Moana. 698 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,910 S1: This is her big kind of TV breakout role. And 699 00:32:16,910 --> 00:32:20,540 S1: we're talking about Ted Lasso before the guy who plays 700 00:32:20,540 --> 00:32:23,210 S1: Sam to achieve Jimoh. He's also one of the key 701 00:32:23,210 --> 00:32:25,220 S1: characters in the power. So this is going to be 702 00:32:25,220 --> 00:32:25,910 S1: one to watch. 703 00:32:26,410 --> 00:32:29,020 S2: Yeah. It's so weird seeing him in the trailer because, like, 704 00:32:29,140 --> 00:32:31,360 S2: he's so, like, I'm so associated him with his character 705 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,580 S2: in Ted Lasso where he's, like, so happy and just 706 00:32:33,580 --> 00:32:35,110 S2: like this warm. And then they play kind of this 707 00:32:35,110 --> 00:32:37,240 S2: like news journalist in the power of interesting to see. 708 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:38,920 S2: But I mean, look, it sounds like one of those 709 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,170 S2: shows as well where, you know, if you explain it 710 00:32:41,170 --> 00:32:43,240 S2: to someone, you're like, oh, a bunch of teenage girls 711 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,250 S2: get the power to electrocute people. But like, obviously there's 712 00:32:45,250 --> 00:32:47,800 S2: so much more going on. And like thematically, the show 713 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,290 S2: is talking about so much more, especially as, you know, 714 00:32:50,290 --> 00:32:52,750 S2: like the older generations begin to learn and, you know, 715 00:32:52,750 --> 00:32:55,720 S2: like access their power. And it does really kind of 716 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,540 S2: like become this generational conversation. I think it's going to 717 00:32:58,540 --> 00:33:00,010 S2: be yeah, I think you're right. It's a hot tip. 718 00:33:00,010 --> 00:33:03,160 S1: Yeah. So that's out on Amazon Prime on March 31st. Hey, Thomas, 719 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,860 S1: do you remember a little show from our youth called 720 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:06,920 S1: The O.C.? 721 00:33:08,940 --> 00:33:11,670 S2: I like, basically thought I was in the O.C. from 722 00:33:11,670 --> 00:33:13,380 S2: 2001 to 2007. 723 00:33:13,380 --> 00:33:15,750 S1: So when you were growing up in the southern suburbs 724 00:33:15,750 --> 00:33:16,530 S1: of Sydney. 725 00:33:16,710 --> 00:33:19,560 S2: Man, you don't understand. Growing up in like the Sutherland Shire. 726 00:33:19,950 --> 00:33:22,170 S2: It was there was a big Aussie energy out there. 727 00:33:22,170 --> 00:33:24,270 S1: That's actually, to be fair, the more I think about it, 728 00:33:24,270 --> 00:33:27,930 S1: there's beaches, there's people from the wrong side of the tracks. 729 00:33:27,930 --> 00:33:29,880 S1: There's all sorts of things going on. Yeah. So were 730 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,290 S1: you more of a Ryan or a Seth? 731 00:33:31,290 --> 00:33:34,350 S2: Well, I kind of, I, I pinballs like if I 732 00:33:34,350 --> 00:33:36,330 S2: was in my feelings and I felt like a Ryan 733 00:33:36,330 --> 00:33:38,910 S2: and I would like maybe wear the leather cuff and like, 734 00:33:39,220 --> 00:33:43,050 S2: like a singlet. But then I pretty quickly shifted to 735 00:33:43,050 --> 00:33:45,660 S2: Seth vibes. I had a side satchel and listened exclusively 736 00:33:45,660 --> 00:33:47,250 S2: to Death Cab for Cutie for like four years in 737 00:33:47,250 --> 00:33:49,860 S2: a row. So yeah, I think my friends probably say 738 00:33:49,860 --> 00:33:50,760 S2: I was more of a Seth. 739 00:33:50,940 --> 00:33:54,960 S1: Yeah, and the reason why we're talking about your weird youth, 740 00:33:55,260 --> 00:33:57,840 S1: as fun as it is, because Joshua Schwartz, who created 741 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,020 S1: The O.C. and Stephanie Savage, who he played it and 742 00:34:01,020 --> 00:34:05,640 S1: they collectively also created and ran Gossip Girl two, they 743 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,270 S1: are back with a new show. It's a crime drama 744 00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:13,080 S1: called City on Fire. It's set in 2003, and it 745 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,780 S1: revolves around the murder of a woman and how that 746 00:34:15,780 --> 00:34:19,049 S1: murder is linked to these mysterious fires that keep breaking 747 00:34:19,050 --> 00:34:21,540 S1: out across New York City. People start investigating it. It 748 00:34:21,540 --> 00:34:25,080 S1: turns out there's shock and horror. Some wealthy people with 749 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:29,130 S1: some scandals and some secrets. There's class dynamics at play. 750 00:34:29,130 --> 00:34:32,640 S1: It's an interrogation of the music scene in New York 751 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,370 S1: in the early 2000, which, I mean, sounds like we're 752 00:34:35,370 --> 00:34:37,410 S1: going to be going back to the indie era there, 753 00:34:37,410 --> 00:34:39,450 S1: which is going to be a lot of fun. I'm super, 754 00:34:39,450 --> 00:34:39,950 S1: super psyched. 755 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,870 S2: Josh Schwartz is he's really frozen in time, which I'm 756 00:34:42,870 --> 00:34:44,400 S2: happy to return to that time. That was a good 757 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,490 S2: time for me. But that early 2000, he's just like, 758 00:34:47,489 --> 00:34:48,839 S2: he's there creatively. 759 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,580 S1: I like it. Like I really did not like the 760 00:34:50,580 --> 00:34:53,850 S1: Gossip Girl reboot. It just feels like it lost what 761 00:34:53,860 --> 00:34:57,030 S1: Gossip Girl was about just being sort of self-aware and 762 00:34:57,030 --> 00:35:00,690 S1: an era where interrogating the rich or kind of just 763 00:35:00,690 --> 00:35:02,940 S1: looking at the rich felt different to what they were 764 00:35:02,940 --> 00:35:04,589 S1: trying to do with their reboot. They tried to make, 765 00:35:04,590 --> 00:35:08,310 S1: you know, these super rich children of property developers woke 766 00:35:08,310 --> 00:35:11,759 S1: unlike race and gender lines, it just didn't really land. 767 00:35:12,090 --> 00:35:15,420 S1: But I'm excited about going back to 2003. The cast 768 00:35:15,420 --> 00:35:18,240 S1: is also super interesting for this one. Jemima Kirke from 769 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,260 S1: Girls is in it, and Australia's Ashley Zuckerman, who was 770 00:35:22,260 --> 00:35:28,200 S1: in succession playing Nate, the character that Sarah Snook Shivs character, 771 00:35:28,530 --> 00:35:29,520 S1: kind of has a bit of a on. 772 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:30,930 S2: And off affair with for a little while. 773 00:35:31,230 --> 00:35:34,680 S1: So that's on Apple TV Plus on May 12th. And 774 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,750 S1: I realized I missed that there was one more show 775 00:35:36,750 --> 00:35:39,180 S1: that is actually out right now I forgot to talk about. 776 00:35:39,180 --> 00:35:40,920 S1: So maybe a good way to sort of round out 777 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,009 S1: the convo if people are looking for things to stream 778 00:35:44,010 --> 00:35:46,560 S1: this very moment. This is a show that has just 779 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,529 S1: been released on Amazon Prime. It's called Daisy Jones and 780 00:35:49,530 --> 00:35:50,370 S1: the six. 781 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,060 S18: Got a great one. 782 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,760 S16: Did you guys want to record something or fight more? 783 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:54,870 S16: I'm fine either way. 784 00:35:55,410 --> 00:35:57,420 S11: Okay, let's get this started. 785 00:35:57,420 --> 00:36:00,480 S5: This is honeycomb. Take one. 786 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,150 S16: Can I ask you a question? What do you think 787 00:36:07,150 --> 00:36:07,930 S16: the song's about? 788 00:36:07,989 --> 00:36:10,060 S15: What do I think the song is about? What? The song. 789 00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:11,529 S15: What is the song? What do I think the song 790 00:36:11,530 --> 00:36:16,319 S15: that I wrote is about? It's about starting a new life. 791 00:36:18,530 --> 00:36:20,930 S2: I don't know who I am. 792 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,620 S15: It's about dreaming of something different. 793 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,370 S1: It is a kind of sort of the conceit of 794 00:36:25,370 --> 00:36:27,770 S1: it is a mockumentary, but it ends up being a 795 00:36:27,770 --> 00:36:31,300 S1: bit of a drama about a band in the 1970s, 796 00:36:31,310 --> 00:36:35,390 S1: very loosely based on Fleetwood Mac. So if you imagine 797 00:36:35,390 --> 00:36:39,290 S1: a sort of drama that is based on Stevie Nicks 798 00:36:39,290 --> 00:36:42,440 S1: and the crew getting together, making music, getting up to 799 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,489 S1: no good, discovering themselves and starting to conquer the rock scene. 800 00:36:46,489 --> 00:36:48,320 S1: That is what the show is about. And it stars 801 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,360 S1: Riley Keough, who I think both you and I are 802 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:51,570 S1: pretty big fans of. 803 00:36:51,590 --> 00:36:55,100 S2: Yeah, love Riley, of course, Elvis granddaughter. And yeah, she 804 00:36:55,100 --> 00:36:56,900 S2: she kind of plays like the Stevie Nicks figure. And 805 00:36:56,900 --> 00:37:00,350 S2: then Sam Claflin, the English actor, plays Billy, who is 806 00:37:00,350 --> 00:37:03,050 S2: kind of like the Lindsey Buckingham in this scenario. But yeah, 807 00:37:03,050 --> 00:37:05,450 S2: it's great. It's so funny. You know, like there was 808 00:37:05,450 --> 00:37:07,310 S2: so much hype about this show, and I watched it 809 00:37:07,310 --> 00:37:09,830 S2: across the weekend with my wife, who loves Fleetwood Mac, 810 00:37:09,830 --> 00:37:11,029 S2: and both of us were kind of like, Oh, it's 811 00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:13,040 S2: got like a real A Star is Born kind of 812 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,950 S2: vibes where, you know, essentially they've both got partners, but 813 00:37:15,950 --> 00:37:18,259 S2: they start making music together and, you know, they can't 814 00:37:18,350 --> 00:37:20,840 S2: stay away from each other. But also the music is great. 815 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,850 S2: And so like I found myself listening to the Daisy 816 00:37:22,850 --> 00:37:25,160 S2: Jones in the Six soundtrack on the weekend and the original. 817 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,070 S1: Music by people like Phoebe Bridgers and Marcus. 818 00:37:28,340 --> 00:37:31,069 S2: Marcus Mumford and stuff. And so like, the music is 819 00:37:31,070 --> 00:37:33,859 S2: so catchy and, you know, it feels like this is 820 00:37:33,860 --> 00:37:35,870 S2: a real band by the time you finished the show. 821 00:37:35,870 --> 00:37:37,910 S2: But yeah, it's really well done. They do the ear 822 00:37:37,910 --> 00:37:39,770 S2: well and like you said, they kind of tap into 823 00:37:39,770 --> 00:37:43,520 S2: that typical music, kind of like documentary style, where essentially 824 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,030 S2: the band is looking back at their absolutely crazy wild ride. 825 00:37:47,210 --> 00:37:49,370 S2: And through that we learn, you know, like what happened 826 00:37:49,370 --> 00:37:51,530 S2: to this kind of group of nobodies that were plucked 827 00:37:51,530 --> 00:37:55,669 S2: and became this supergroup. But yeah, very impressive. And like 828 00:37:55,670 --> 00:37:58,310 S2: I said, you kind of find yourself almost believing that 829 00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:59,960 S2: Daisy Jones in the sense of your new favorite band, 830 00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:01,009 S2: even though they don't exist. 831 00:38:01,100 --> 00:38:03,650 S1: Yeah, it's super interesting. That's out on Amazon Prime right now. 832 00:38:03,650 --> 00:38:06,710 S1: So there's already a fair few things from a bunch 833 00:38:06,710 --> 00:38:09,380 S1: of different genres that are back on streaming platforms. A 834 00:38:09,380 --> 00:38:12,230 S1: lot more to look forward to and really excited. Thomas 835 00:38:12,230 --> 00:38:15,560 S1: to start in just a few weeks, recapping the final 836 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,180 S1: season of succession. 837 00:38:17,180 --> 00:38:20,480 S2: I seriously cannot wait. I reckon I've watched that trailer, 838 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,630 S2: I'm going to say maybe ten times now and just 839 00:38:23,630 --> 00:38:27,380 S2: watching Cousin Greg relaying to Tom when Logan is on 840 00:38:27,380 --> 00:38:29,870 S2: the newsroom floor and it was like he's moseying around. 841 00:38:29,870 --> 00:38:32,750 S2: He's terrifyingly moseying. Like, I just know it's going to 842 00:38:32,750 --> 00:38:36,710 S2: be the the ending that succession fans deserve. And there's 843 00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:39,530 S2: so much to talk about and there was so much 844 00:38:39,530 --> 00:38:42,620 S2: to like, dissect even from where season three left us. 845 00:38:42,620 --> 00:38:44,570 S2: So before we get to the first episode, there's a 846 00:38:44,570 --> 00:38:46,489 S2: lot to talk about. So I think, you know, we 847 00:38:46,489 --> 00:38:48,950 S2: are going to just absolutely indulge ourselves and hopefully deliver 848 00:38:48,950 --> 00:38:52,339 S2: everyone some searing hot succession content. Yeah, we'll be. 849 00:38:52,340 --> 00:38:54,080 S1: Back in a couple of weeks with a bit of 850 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,830 S1: a preview of the season. Then we're doing weekly bonus episodes, 851 00:38:57,830 --> 00:39:01,460 S1: looking at each episode as it comes out. Thomas Mitchell, 852 00:39:01,489 --> 00:39:03,770 S1: thank you so much for your time on the show today. 853 00:39:03,860 --> 00:39:04,550 S2: Always a pleasure. 854 00:39:09,010 --> 00:39:12,490 S1: This episode of The Drop was produced by Kewal. 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