WEBVTT - Training Bust-Ups, Nudie Runs & Park Footy Horrors 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:11.240 Hi everyone. Welcome to Mark my words, our Monday edition 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:13.399 storytime with the boys. And there's a bit of a 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:16.040 theme today. One of the things we've seen gents and 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:18.599 I don't like it, is prior to games and after 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:21.000 the games, more so prior to the games. Opposing teams 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:24.079 coming together, shaking hands and being all pally pally. No. 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:25.200 Prior to the game you say. 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:28.080 You are up against one another, you despise one another 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:31.600 because it's game on. And I thought we'd have a 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:34.760 look today at the training ground bust up. So when 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:37.919 you boys were playing, admittedly, in any workplace, you don't 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:40.560 get along with people, right? So were there bust ups? 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:43.319 Were there disagreements? Did it get a little testy on, say, 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.600 a mad Monday? M g piggy, as I say hello 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.880 to you, let's talk about training ground bust ups. 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:53.400 I can't remember too many. Well, you know what? It happens. 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:58.600 Not many times would you see a player, um, and 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:02.410 a teammate Fight what you do in drills you'd see. Sometimes. 0:01:02.450 --> 0:01:04.690 Sometimes you get. You'd be doing a drill and you'd 0:01:04.730 --> 0:01:07.729 be saying like, coach would go 70%. Okay, we're doing 0:01:07.730 --> 0:01:09.330 a drill, do an offload. And all of a sudden 0:01:09.490 --> 0:01:11.130 one of the under 21 players or one of the 0:01:11.130 --> 0:01:12.530 reserve grade players would go over and go, I can 0:01:12.530 --> 0:01:16.809 get out of here. Hey, what are you doing? 70%. 0:01:17.290 --> 0:01:18.450 And so you get up and go. You get the 0:01:18.450 --> 0:01:21.930 ball now. Yeah, I'll go 90%. And that's kind of 0:01:21.970 --> 0:01:22.770 as far as it goes. 0:01:22.890 --> 0:01:25.010 Yeah. They call them test matches. Well, we would call 0:01:25.010 --> 0:01:27.690 them test matches. Yes. Oh, fuck. Here we go. We 0:01:27.690 --> 0:01:31.449 got a test match. Yes, yes, a test match. It's training. Yeah. 0:01:31.890 --> 0:01:34.330 We say origin. I got fucking origin denied. Is it 0:01:34.330 --> 0:01:37.650 with you? I'm not. I'm not saying names, but. But that. 0:01:37.970 --> 0:01:40.610 I mean, we're big men. We're all blokes are all 0:01:40.650 --> 0:01:45.730 mostly alpha males. And, um. You you don't love. You 0:01:45.730 --> 0:01:48.770 don't love everyone you play with. That's that's that's just 0:01:48.770 --> 0:01:51.290 how it is. I mean, to win a grand final, 0:01:51.290 --> 0:01:53.850 you've got to have more love than hate because that's 0:01:54.410 --> 0:01:56.450 you know, you've got to be around them blokes longer 0:01:56.450 --> 0:02:01.340 than you're around your family. So, um, but there's, there's 0:02:01.860 --> 0:02:03.940 sometimes it's hard to fit a square block into a 0:02:03.940 --> 0:02:06.660 round pole, you know, because he's some, some guys are 0:02:06.660 --> 0:02:08.940 just set in their ways and they don't want to 0:02:08.980 --> 0:02:10.820 go out with the boys. They don't want to do anything. 0:02:10.820 --> 0:02:12.419 And we go, well, fuck off. 0:02:12.500 --> 0:02:13.579 Because I'm like. 0:02:13.980 --> 0:02:14.620 There's a few. 0:02:15.020 --> 0:02:16.060 There's a few of them nerds. 0:02:16.060 --> 0:02:17.980 Well, I work at a workplace, obviously here, right. And 0:02:17.980 --> 0:02:19.900 there'll be people I know over the years, people have 0:02:19.900 --> 0:02:21.579 got on my nerves and you sort of just, oh, 0:02:21.620 --> 0:02:23.180 you know, you suck it up and get on with it. 0:02:23.180 --> 0:02:26.940 But when you're around a group of high testosterone blokes 0:02:27.060 --> 0:02:30.820 training all striving for the same thing, there'd be little 0:02:30.860 --> 0:02:33.940 bits and pieces that players do that annoy you. 0:02:33.940 --> 0:02:36.940 Yeah, of course, but as M.G. said, like you go 0:02:36.940 --> 0:02:39.860 in there and you're training and you're not all best mates. 0:02:40.260 --> 0:02:42.899 It just doesn't happen. But like I while you boys 0:02:42.900 --> 0:02:45.740 were talking then I was thinking back to, to I 0:02:45.740 --> 0:02:48.620 suppose my experience isn't that like some, some of the 0:02:48.620 --> 0:02:50.500 Dragons boys that I played with are still my best 0:02:50.500 --> 0:02:53.500 mates today. Like I still talk to them a fair bit, 0:02:53.980 --> 0:02:58.060 still get on, still catch up, but the the ones 0:02:58.060 --> 0:03:00.900 that m g said about they like you'll get a group. 0:03:00.940 --> 0:03:03.859 You've got to write in any group of people. You're 0:03:03.860 --> 0:03:07.300 going to get 1 or 2. That are just different. Yeah. And, 0:03:07.300 --> 0:03:10.380 and may not want to socialize with the team outside 0:03:10.380 --> 0:03:13.940 of footy, but like we had, we had a great 0:03:13.980 --> 0:03:16.140 we had a great group at the Dragons in particular. 0:03:16.139 --> 0:03:18.419 And I'm thinking about the Dragons here, mate. We were 0:03:18.419 --> 0:03:21.100 always together. We would. We were going out for dinners 0:03:21.100 --> 0:03:22.300 during the week after training. 0:03:22.340 --> 0:03:23.700 Rattle off some names. Who were you? Sort of. 0:03:23.740 --> 0:03:29.300 Oh well, Timo and myself, Willie Peters Rossi, Gaz, Baz, 0:03:29.620 --> 0:03:33.340 Benny Hornby, Dean young, like Dean Young and Benny Craig 0:03:33.380 --> 0:03:36.700 came in a little bit after, like we just all 0:03:36.700 --> 0:03:38.700 hang out. We all hung out. Like we always hung 0:03:38.700 --> 0:03:41.820 out together. Yeah. That's we, we, we, we used to have, 0:03:42.260 --> 0:03:44.500 I think it was the Thursday night because we, we 0:03:44.540 --> 0:03:46.100 come down and I was living in Sydney, but I'd 0:03:46.100 --> 0:03:49.500 stay at Tim's house. We trained Thursday and then everyone 0:03:49.500 --> 0:03:51.740 would go to this pasta joint. I forget what it's called. Right. 0:03:51.740 --> 0:03:55.710 In Wollongong we'd have Italian for dinner and then we'd 0:03:55.710 --> 0:03:59.670 get up to shenanigans, you know, like not not bad stuff, 0:03:59.710 --> 0:04:02.230 but just funny stuff. And, um. 0:04:02.750 --> 0:04:04.510 They would have struggled out on the town. The likes 0:04:04.510 --> 0:04:05.270 of Trent Barrett. 0:04:06.030 --> 0:04:08.190 Out on the town, not drinking or anything like this 0:04:08.190 --> 0:04:09.350 was preparing for games. 0:04:09.550 --> 0:04:11.590 So you were, you were starting your career as I 0:04:11.590 --> 0:04:15.190 was finishing mine. Yeah. Yeah. So when Ron Willey come 0:04:15.190 --> 0:04:17.550 to us in the late 80s, he was he said, 0:04:17.550 --> 0:04:20.590 I want to change everything, you know. And so instead 0:04:20.589 --> 0:04:22.390 of training as a group like Tim Sheens had us 0:04:22.390 --> 0:04:25.109 like he had to train under 23 reserve grade, first grade. 0:04:26.070 --> 0:04:29.070 Ron Willey cut off the reserve grade under 23. He said, 0:04:29.110 --> 0:04:31.510 I want 15 blokes a week training with us, and 0:04:31.550 --> 0:04:33.230 I want that 15 blokes to go to the pub 0:04:33.230 --> 0:04:36.950 every Thursday and have at least three schooners with each other. Well, 0:04:36.950 --> 0:04:40.070 that three schooners turned into bringing you cutting into training 0:04:40.070 --> 0:04:42.790 with your dancing clothes on. You're kidding. Don't drink night 0:04:42.790 --> 0:04:46.229 at Panthers on a Thursday night. I got a drink. Night. 0:04:46.270 --> 0:04:47.150 We were getting jugs. 0:04:47.190 --> 0:04:48.070 Bring that back. 0:04:48.110 --> 0:04:52.470 Panthers jugs. Jugs of black Russian going like. 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:56.160 What year was that? 88. 89. So, okay, so just 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:57.720 before you had that run, obviously. 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:00.240 Well, that's that's when the run started because he came 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:04.120 in and Tim Sheens had already set the groundwork for 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:06.640 us and signed all these guys from Mount Druitt, which 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:09.719 I was one of. Yeah. And we had this kind 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.160 of mantra that if you're going to have fun on 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:14.280 the field, you've gotta have fun off the field. Yeah, yeah. 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.640 And we did. Um, and in the end, those guys 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:20.039 who wouldn't come with their coat hangers were kind of 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:22.279 what this is what the coach wants. 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:23.160 This is what we're doing this. 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:24.040 We're going to do it. 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:27.360 It's interesting you talk about that. I speaking of Mark 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.799 Gasnier and the association with Renown United. Oh yeah. This 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:33.080 might be a stupid story, but I'll tell it anyway. When, 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.280 when I was back refereeing we used to um the, 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:38.119 in the local area we used to go and train 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:40.720 with some of the A-grade sides. And I remember the 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:42.560 night we went along, I just turned 18, we went 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:45.719 to the renown United A grades training night. It was 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:48.400 before the final started and they said, we're doing something 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:51.529 a bit different tonight. And they dragged out this big rope. 0:05:52.290 --> 0:05:54.210 So we all had to pick up the rope, all 0:05:54.210 --> 0:05:56.370 the players and all the referees we all had to be. 0:05:56.730 --> 0:05:59.130 And it was a pub crawl. We went to every 0:05:59.130 --> 0:06:01.170 pub and had a beer. If someone had to go 0:06:01.170 --> 0:06:02.930 to the toilet, we all had to go to the toilet. 0:06:03.250 --> 0:06:06.570 It was. It was the most enjoyable night and like 0:06:06.610 --> 0:06:08.930 I ran to a renowned play recently down at the 0:06:08.930 --> 0:06:11.290 local shops and we were talking about it and I said, well, 0:06:11.290 --> 0:06:14.250 that happened any more like in, you know, even in 0:06:14.250 --> 0:06:16.970 park footy. It's amazing what it did just for bringing 0:06:16.970 --> 0:06:17.650 everyone together. 0:06:17.850 --> 0:06:20.770 But that those days are gone. Aren't they having a 0:06:20.810 --> 0:06:22.650 beer and all that? I don't see it. 0:06:22.890 --> 0:06:24.610 A couple of days ago, Ben Stokes come out and 0:06:24.610 --> 0:06:28.890 said that the, um, the culture in cricket is one 0:06:28.890 --> 0:06:31.770 of drinking culture. And if you're not a drinker, you're 0:06:31.770 --> 0:06:34.690 left out, which kind of I thought in 2026. That's 0:06:34.690 --> 0:06:37.170 a weird thing to say. Yeah. Because we know how 0:06:37.410 --> 0:06:40.490 destructive alcohol can be. Yeah. If you're, if you're hanging 0:06:40.490 --> 0:06:43.609 for it all the time, if you're an alcohol. Yeah, yeah. So, um, 0:06:44.010 --> 0:06:48.970 but renowned. So my first ever apprenticeship was at renowned Pearlite, 0:06:49.170 --> 0:06:51.300 which Reg your own bank? 0:06:51.580 --> 0:06:51.979 Yeah. 0:06:52.460 --> 0:06:54.980 Bank. That was my first ever apprenticeship. I lasted two 0:06:54.980 --> 0:06:58.860 weeks because I was getting 70 bucks a week, and 0:06:58.860 --> 0:07:00.979 it cost me 68 bucks to get there from Mount Druitt. 0:07:01.420 --> 0:07:02.339 No way. 0:07:03.180 --> 0:07:03.940 $2 profit. 0:07:03.980 --> 0:07:07.700 I'd have to get on a bus, two trains, another bus, 0:07:07.900 --> 0:07:09.100 and then walk two cars to the. 0:07:09.180 --> 0:07:10.380 So every week you're spending that. 0:07:10.620 --> 0:07:12.260 Every day I was, I was every day I'd be 0:07:12.260 --> 0:07:13.220 getting a train bus. 0:07:13.260 --> 0:07:13.700 Wow. 0:07:14.300 --> 0:07:16.660 See boys and girls. 0:07:16.700 --> 0:07:17.220 Oh my. 0:07:17.260 --> 0:07:19.300 But yeah. And it was I didn't mind. It was 0:07:19.300 --> 0:07:20.860 just the fact of getting there. I couldn't get there. 0:07:20.900 --> 0:07:23.020 I didn't have my licence or anything at that stage. So. 0:07:23.220 --> 0:07:26.540 Oh, the old, old renowned park. They had this. 0:07:26.780 --> 0:07:28.660 Still down the bottom of the gully sort of thing. 0:07:28.820 --> 0:07:31.300 They had this cricket pitch in the middle. Oh, I 0:07:31.420 --> 0:07:34.660 probably shouldn't tell this story. I remember renown were on 0:07:34.660 --> 0:07:36.940 the attack. They were playing against Hurstville United and I 0:07:36.940 --> 0:07:39.060 was standing on the on the goal line because obviously 0:07:39.100 --> 0:07:42.020 take the defensive team back the ten. And this this 0:07:42.020 --> 0:07:44.260 dummy half, he darted out of dummy half and he 0:07:44.260 --> 0:07:46.580 dived at the line and he dived straight into the 0:07:46.580 --> 0:07:49.980 knee of one of the renowned players and went straight 0:07:49.980 --> 0:07:52.860 into his cheekbone and the cheekbone popped his eyeball out. 0:07:53.940 --> 0:07:54.620 Popped his. 0:07:54.620 --> 0:07:55.460 Eyeball. I'm telling. 0:07:55.460 --> 0:07:55.780 You. 0:07:56.220 --> 0:07:59.020 I'm telling you. So the trainer came out and covered 0:07:59.020 --> 0:08:00.860 it up, and I'm just sitting there. I was. 0:08:01.180 --> 0:08:01.740 Right on. 0:08:01.780 --> 0:08:03.180 No no no no. The game. 0:08:03.540 --> 0:08:03.780 Went. 0:08:03.780 --> 0:08:05.980 On, but everyone was just dry reaching, going. This is. 0:08:06.180 --> 0:08:08.380 So you're saying he's. I popped out of his head. 0:08:08.420 --> 0:08:11.300 He dived into the line. He hit the bloke straight there, 0:08:11.740 --> 0:08:14.300 but his cheekbone and the eyeball popped out. 0:08:14.340 --> 0:08:17.660 If you if anyone out there in, um, podcast land 0:08:17.660 --> 0:08:21.820 knows of this bloke, this player, and he's still with us, 0:08:22.540 --> 0:08:23.380 we want to get him on. 0:08:23.380 --> 0:08:23.980 I know him. 0:08:24.020 --> 0:08:24.340 Oh. 0:08:24.500 --> 0:08:25.340 One eyed Willie. 0:08:26.020 --> 0:08:27.260 I thought it was Popeye. 0:08:27.700 --> 0:08:28.860 Oh where's Olive? 0:08:29.300 --> 0:08:32.420 That's better I'll give you that. No, but that's a serious. Well. 0:08:33.020 --> 0:08:33.460 That gives me. 0:08:33.740 --> 0:08:34.940 One of the worst things I've ever seen on the 0:08:34.940 --> 0:08:36.940 football field. Oh, awful. Oh my goodness. I don't know 0:08:36.940 --> 0:08:38.660 how I got onto that. Well one of the other 0:08:38.940 --> 0:08:40.820 one of the other topics that I wanted to raise 0:08:40.820 --> 0:08:45.140 with you boys is you obviously have a cupboard full 0:08:45.140 --> 0:08:47.710 of jerseys or you might have some some of the 0:08:47.710 --> 0:08:51.310 jerseys you wore or maybe swapped with opposing players prized 0:08:51.309 --> 0:08:55.630 possessions and the story behind it. MJ I'm thinking, you know, 0:08:55.670 --> 0:08:57.670 all the things you achieved in your career. Have you 0:08:57.670 --> 0:08:59.630 got something at home that you consider to be one 0:08:59.630 --> 0:09:01.069 of your prized possessions? 0:09:01.950 --> 0:09:02.709 I haven't. 0:09:02.870 --> 0:09:04.790 Where's your Panthers premiership? 0:09:04.830 --> 0:09:08.110 That's in the NRL museum, I think. I gave that 0:09:08.110 --> 0:09:11.790 to Frankie when he was the. He was running that. Yeah. Um, 0:09:11.830 --> 0:09:17.150 Gus Warne's got my 91 origin jersey. Um, I when 0:09:17.150 --> 0:09:19.590 we were on the kangaroo tour, um, I would swap 0:09:19.590 --> 0:09:23.949 jerseys with the game every time. So I've got Warrington Hull. 0:09:23.990 --> 0:09:24.470 I do. 0:09:24.830 --> 0:09:24.990 All. 0:09:25.030 --> 0:09:28.310 Them. Yeah. Um Sheffield. Obviously I played for Sheffield. Yeah. 0:09:28.790 --> 0:09:31.309 Um but one of the most, one of the ones 0:09:31.309 --> 0:09:32.990 I love the most was when we were on the 0:09:32.990 --> 0:09:36.070 Kangaroos together and um Mark Sargeant gave me his, we 0:09:36.110 --> 0:09:38.630 swapped the, I swapped the chocolate soldier one with a 0:09:38.670 --> 0:09:40.670 Henny penny, which I still got at home. 0:09:40.710 --> 0:09:41.070 Wow. 0:09:41.150 --> 0:09:44.390 The Henny Penny jersey which Newcastle won. Um, and then 0:09:44.390 --> 0:09:47.719 I swapped them into my second test match against the Kiwis. 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:52.000 Mercy Kolody, second rower. He had number 11 Kiwis jersey on. 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:53.720 I swapped that with him. I got that at home, 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:56.840 but man, most of mine, most of mine are gone. 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:57.280 Really? 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.480 Oh, you don't have, like, bags and bags. I used to. 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:00.040 You do? 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.320 I used to, but when I was in my, um, 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:06.520 let's say downtime as a player. I would, uh, sell 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:07.880 them for. For money. 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:09.560 Oh, right. Yeah. Okay. 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:11.560 Because I was doing it so hard. I'd have to 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:14.880 make ends meet and I'd give. I'd sell three, you know, 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:17.120 3 or 4 jerseys to a for 500 bucks. 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:21.480 Yeah. Right. Yeah. Far out. Mhm. Jeez. Will you get 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:24.200 the one that was in the museum back? Yeah. If 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.280 you ever want it back. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:27.680 I'd love to get it back from my grandkids. 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:28.640 Yeah. I know that's, you know. 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:31.880 It's interesting. It's interesting. I, I, I called some cricket 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:35.200 with Ian Chappell, um, back in the sports radio days 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.520 and um, I got talking to him one night. We 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:39.200 didn't talk a lot of cricket, but he loved talking 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:42.839 about baseball. And I randomly said to Chappelle once, I said, oh, 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.570 have you still got your baggy green and you know, some. 0:10:45.850 --> 0:10:48.650 He goes, nah. I said, what about. I said, give 0:10:48.650 --> 0:10:51.050 it your grandkids. He goes, no, he goes, everything I achieved, 0:10:51.050 --> 0:10:52.130 it's all up here, all my money. 0:10:52.250 --> 0:10:53.370 And if you come to my house, you would never 0:10:53.370 --> 0:10:55.010 know that I was the next footballer. Really? I've got 0:10:55.010 --> 0:10:57.449 nothing around the house that says I'm the next footballer. 0:10:57.730 --> 0:11:02.330 I've got one photo in one back room of a 0:11:02.330 --> 0:11:05.370 the 91 team. Yeah, but that's it. Like I know 0:11:05.370 --> 0:11:06.370 I haven't got anything. 0:11:06.370 --> 0:11:06.810 Wow. 0:11:07.170 --> 0:11:09.530 I don't have anything in the house. Not allowed. 0:11:10.890 --> 0:11:11.810 You would if you could. 0:11:12.370 --> 0:11:13.170 The wife. 0:11:14.130 --> 0:11:17.130 I'm not putting that up. I've got I've got a 0:11:17.170 --> 0:11:21.290 heap of stuff in the garage but nothing up. Nothing up. 0:11:21.290 --> 0:11:24.450 I've got a lot of sports memorabilia in general. Yeah. 0:11:24.490 --> 0:11:29.090 Different stuff. Don Bradman, Michael Schumacher, like heaps of good memorabilia. 0:11:29.090 --> 0:11:31.730 None of that's up. That's all stacked in against the 0:11:31.730 --> 0:11:35.370 wall in the garage. Um, I've got a picture. A 0:11:35.450 --> 0:11:39.690 canvas of our grand final winning team, the Wigan Warriors one. Um. 0:11:39.730 --> 0:11:40.890 She's not even allowed to put that up. 0:11:40.890 --> 0:11:41.329 That'd be good. 0:11:41.330 --> 0:11:43.850 Up that That's on the wall. Canvas looked good in 0:11:43.890 --> 0:11:46.010 the garage. That's the only place I'm allowed to have 0:11:46.050 --> 0:11:48.690 any Harley. I'll take a photo of it when I 0:11:48.690 --> 0:11:50.770 go home today. I'll send it to him. Chat group 0:11:50.970 --> 0:11:53.810 and then I've got. I've actually got a character. Oh. 0:11:53.850 --> 0:11:56.610 What do you call it? A caricature, a caricature or 0:11:56.650 --> 0:11:59.410 a picture of me that's been painted of me doing 0:11:59.410 --> 0:12:02.650 the one arm salute? So when that came out years ago, 0:12:02.690 --> 0:12:04.850 my junior club had an artist. 0:12:04.890 --> 0:12:05.730 Oh, that'd be awesome. 0:12:05.770 --> 0:12:08.130 Saint Christopher's panini. I had an artist do them. Yeah. 0:12:08.170 --> 0:12:10.450 And then they auctioned them off. And then I got one. 0:12:10.450 --> 0:12:12.850 And then. So I got that framed. That's great. I've 0:12:12.850 --> 0:12:16.210 got that on a wall in the garage. In the garage? Yeah. 0:12:16.250 --> 0:12:19.810 And then for my 40th birthday, because I've got bags 0:12:19.809 --> 0:12:22.090 and bags of all the jerseys and everything, but I've 0:12:22.090 --> 0:12:23.850 never been through them. I don't have a clue. My 0:12:23.850 --> 0:12:25.929 mum and dad kept him. So my mum and dad 0:12:25.929 --> 0:12:28.010 kept them the whole career. I gave them to. And 0:12:28.010 --> 0:12:29.250 then once the career finished. 0:12:29.570 --> 0:12:29.890 There you go. 0:12:29.929 --> 0:12:32.329 There you go. It's all yours. We don't want it 0:12:32.330 --> 0:12:35.250 in the house. So they. They gave me everything but 0:12:35.250 --> 0:12:38.410 my wife, Carly, she got my Wigan Warriors grand final 0:12:38.410 --> 0:12:41.340 jersey framed up for my 40th. So I got that 0:12:41.340 --> 0:12:42.500 in a frame, but that's stacked. 0:12:42.540 --> 0:12:43.179 In the garage. 0:12:44.420 --> 0:12:46.220 And then there's one other I just want to, I 0:12:46.260 --> 0:12:48.100 want to find and I just haven't had a chance. 0:12:48.140 --> 0:12:51.740 I'm so busy. Um, I want to get me Dragons 0:12:51.740 --> 0:12:52.459 debut jersey. 0:12:52.500 --> 0:12:53.100 Of course. 0:12:53.140 --> 0:12:54.500 Because that's my first grade debut. 0:12:54.500 --> 0:12:55.940 And I'm like, yeah, I don't know why. 0:12:56.179 --> 0:12:57.939 I wouldn't even know. I don't know where it is. 0:12:57.940 --> 0:13:00.740 I know I was wearing number 17, but it's, it's 0:13:00.740 --> 0:13:04.420 also an old school jersey now. Like it's 20, 26 0:13:04.420 --> 0:13:06.260 years ago, like the big baggy. 0:13:06.300 --> 0:13:06.620 Oh. 0:13:06.740 --> 0:13:09.420 You know, jersey. So I gotta find that I want 0:13:09.420 --> 0:13:10.740 to get that eventually. 0:13:10.780 --> 0:13:13.420 Back then though, cotton and three quarter sleeves heavy. 0:13:13.460 --> 0:13:15.580 Yeah. And the long sleeves. 0:13:15.740 --> 0:13:17.020 But I'm trying to think of the game we called 0:13:17.020 --> 0:13:19.020 on the weekend, but the players, they're that tight. They 0:13:19.020 --> 0:13:19.820 look like they're midriffs. 0:13:19.900 --> 0:13:22.180 I heard um it was the Saturday game because I 0:13:22.179 --> 0:13:23.060 heard big man say. 0:13:23.100 --> 0:13:23.420 Yeah, what. 0:13:23.420 --> 0:13:26.699 Goes what? He goes what are these jerseys. All the players. 0:13:26.740 --> 0:13:28.900 Oh Canberra. Penrith. It was the Canberra jerseys. 0:13:29.100 --> 0:13:31.660 I heard him say hey they're all riding up there. 0:13:31.700 --> 0:13:34.860 I was like Thank God I'm not. Oh imagine. 0:13:34.900 --> 0:13:35.580 Far out. 0:13:35.740 --> 0:13:39.070 There's no like tight jerseys were just coming in. When 0:13:39.070 --> 0:13:42.270 I was playing mate, you'd see me in the dressing room. 0:13:42.270 --> 0:13:44.270 I'd be like, leave me, leave me. Come over here. 0:13:44.309 --> 0:13:53.430 You grab one side. Stretch it out. I bloody hated 0:13:53.429 --> 0:13:55.990 the tight jerseys. That's why one of the reasons I retired. 0:13:56.030 --> 0:13:58.230 And that's why we love the pig. That's why we 0:13:58.230 --> 0:13:58.750 love it. 0:13:58.750 --> 0:13:59.110 Right? 0:13:59.790 --> 0:14:01.750 All right, well, let's get into some listener questions. Some 0:14:01.750 --> 0:14:04.309 good ones again this week. James says boys, who is 0:14:04.309 --> 0:14:06.590 the most loved to hate player in the game right now? 0:14:06.910 --> 0:14:10.030 The kind of guy who thrives on away crowd boos. 0:14:10.830 --> 0:14:13.030 Oh, let's think of who's up top of the comp. 0:14:13.070 --> 0:14:15.750 You know Penrith. They've got they've got anyone. Probably not. Nah. 0:14:16.030 --> 0:14:19.710 Um have the Warriors have the have the Roosters. 0:14:19.750 --> 0:14:22.310 I can think of automatically one who uh a bloke 0:14:22.310 --> 0:14:24.390 who thrives when he's booed over the fence and I 0:14:24.390 --> 0:14:26.230 know he's out injured at the moment. Latrell Mitchell. 0:14:26.550 --> 0:14:28.790 Yeah. Yeah. Latrell does, he does. 0:14:29.110 --> 0:14:30.990 You watch him when he's like I don't love. 0:14:30.990 --> 0:14:32.270 To hate him. I love. 0:14:32.310 --> 0:14:32.550 No, I. 0:14:32.550 --> 0:14:34.390 Love it. But I wouldn't say love to hate. But 0:14:34.390 --> 0:14:36.830 I'd say he's a divisive character in the game. 0:14:36.830 --> 0:14:39.520 Yeah. I'd say the opposition fans of other clubs don't 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:39.840 like him. 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:41.840 Yeah, that's probably. But he thrives under the pressure. 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:43.200 Reece Walsh as well. Maybe. 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:45.560 Probably Reece Walsh he'd probably be a bit of that. 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:47.080 But but not many is there. 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:50.000 There's not as many. There's no like yeah, I'm just 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.600 trying to think like you like I love read money 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:54.880 always have. But he would be one as well. 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:56.960 He's so much like me. This is not. 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:57.600 Going into that. 0:14:57.640 --> 0:14:59.720 Yeah, but you need them players in your team. You gotta. 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:03.160 Um. All right. Terry. Uh, what was the most dangerous 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:06.960 piece of park footy infrastructure encountered growing up? Unpadded steel 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:09.200 post rock hard mud or the local dog walking on 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:10.320 the field. All that play. 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:10.680 All. 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:11.840 That. I like it, Terry. 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:12.520 All of that. 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:16.680 My. I played for a club. 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:17.560 Here's a story. 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:20.640 No no no no. I play. 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:21.800 Pause and then. 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:22.760 I played. 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:24.000 For should I say this. 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.840 No no no nothing bad. I played for a club, uh, 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:30.600 Saint Christopher's Panini. That was my local club and our, 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.480 our local field. We only had one field for the 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:36.290 whole club. Our local field was. Well, we called it 0:15:36.290 --> 0:15:39.970 River road, but it was called Bill Delaney Reserve. Um, 0:15:40.170 --> 0:15:43.690 and River road is right next to the bush. Right. 0:15:43.730 --> 0:15:47.930 So like, um, if anyone sort of knows the area, 0:15:48.170 --> 0:15:51.330 um there's River road, which is the road next to 0:15:51.330 --> 0:15:53.330 the ground, and then there's Henry Lawson Drive and it's 0:15:53.370 --> 0:15:57.330 on the corner. Well, there's bush all around that. So 0:15:57.450 --> 0:15:59.050 I actually lived at the top of the hill of 0:15:59.050 --> 0:16:01.770 River road. So I would walk through the bush to 0:16:01.810 --> 0:16:04.890 get to training down the hill into the ground. And 0:16:04.890 --> 0:16:07.330 then if I ever wanted to go home, if I 0:16:07.330 --> 0:16:11.250 wanted to, I'd go back through the bush and go home. 0:16:11.610 --> 0:16:15.810 But as back in the day, parents like they. My 0:16:15.810 --> 0:16:17.890 mum and dad were at the ground from seven in 0:16:17.970 --> 0:16:22.450 the morning till like ten, 11, 12:00 at night because 0:16:22.690 --> 0:16:25.170 everyone went there. My dad set up, I went down 0:16:25.170 --> 0:16:27.530 with him. My dad would coach, mum would be in 0:16:27.530 --> 0:16:30.890 the canteen. The afternoon would finish, kids would be playing 0:16:30.890 --> 0:16:32.770 footy on the field or we'd be in the bush 0:16:33.250 --> 0:16:37.770 and I remember, I remember, um, one time we got 0:16:37.770 --> 0:16:40.810 in a bit of strife because one of the roads 0:16:40.810 --> 0:16:46.250 Henry Lawson Drive dissected, dissected, um the bush and you 0:16:46.250 --> 0:16:47.810 could go up to the top of a cliff and 0:16:47.810 --> 0:16:50.290 we used to build cubby houses and stuff in the 0:16:50.290 --> 0:16:54.210 cliff and a number of the players, and I'm not 0:16:54.210 --> 0:16:56.970 naming names of anyone who was there would like to 0:16:57.010 --> 0:16:57.730 throw rocks. 0:16:57.770 --> 0:16:58.770 Oh, okay. 0:16:59.050 --> 0:16:59.770 Yeah. See? 0:17:00.170 --> 0:17:01.210 Who's it wrong with. 0:17:01.490 --> 0:17:07.450 No, no, no. And I'm I'm talking excuse me, I'm 0:17:07.490 --> 0:17:09.130 talking NRL because there's. 0:17:09.369 --> 0:17:09.409 A. 0:17:09.810 --> 0:17:15.090 Few NRL players. Yeah. We got we got in that 0:17:15.090 --> 0:17:16.170 much shit. 0:17:17.010 --> 0:17:17.770 No surprise. 0:17:18.330 --> 0:17:20.889 And then the other one was a year that our 0:17:21.050 --> 0:17:23.570 older brothers won the comp down there. Right. And I 0:17:23.570 --> 0:17:26.650 think a fair few grades won the comp and they 0:17:26.650 --> 0:17:28.490 all decided they were all on the drink. They all 0:17:28.490 --> 0:17:32.980 decided to strip nude. So they've stripped nude and gone 0:17:32.980 --> 0:17:37.340 on a nudie run on Henry Lawson Drive. Right. Right. 0:17:37.580 --> 0:17:40.379 They've done the nudie run. The police have been called. 0:17:40.580 --> 0:17:42.380 You know, had to shut it all down. But then 0:17:42.380 --> 0:17:44.700 in the local paper, it was the torch that was 0:17:44.700 --> 0:17:47.219 called the torch. That was the local paper. And it 0:17:47.220 --> 0:17:51.419 had a write up. About 100 men spotted nude running 0:17:51.460 --> 0:17:53.700 down the street on Henry. 0:17:53.700 --> 0:17:53.940 Lawson. 0:17:54.340 --> 0:17:56.060 Drive. Well. 0:17:57.140 --> 0:17:59.060 I'm going to say one of the most dangerous pieces 0:17:59.060 --> 0:18:02.260 of park footy infrastructure was my dad once, because I 0:18:02.260 --> 0:18:05.460 was playing for North Mount Druitt, under 12 against Blackett 0:18:05.660 --> 0:18:09.420 from Mount Druitt as well, and my dad was walking 0:18:09.420 --> 0:18:11.500 up and down the sideline and at half time I'm 0:18:11.500 --> 0:18:14.300 there with my coach having oranges and, you know, listening. 0:18:14.420 --> 0:18:16.859 Next minute I see my dad chasing this bloke on 0:18:16.859 --> 0:18:20.940 a postie bike across the field. I went, what chase? 0:18:20.980 --> 0:18:22.260 Like just running after him. 0:18:22.300 --> 0:18:25.740 Trying to get him going. So anyway, after that all 0:18:25.740 --> 0:18:28.260 kerfuffle went, dad didn't catch him. He came back and 0:18:28.260 --> 0:18:30.950 mum's come over to me going, oh, dad, that babe, 0:18:30.950 --> 0:18:33.470 that bloke there was given five bucks to anyone on 0:18:33.470 --> 0:18:35.310 the other team who would put one on you. 0:18:37.270 --> 0:18:38.030 12 under. 0:18:38.030 --> 0:18:40.989 12 under twelves. Like he was going to give him 0:18:40.990 --> 0:18:41.310 five bucks. 0:18:41.510 --> 0:18:43.310 What did he know the other team? Like, did he 0:18:43.310 --> 0:18:44.790 have a kid in the other team or not? 0:18:44.830 --> 0:18:46.670 He was out. I knew this bloke because he lived 0:18:46.710 --> 0:18:48.270 down the corner from us, and he had a kid 0:18:48.270 --> 0:18:49.630 younger than me, not my age. 0:18:50.109 --> 0:18:52.350 And he went to the other team and started five bucks. 0:18:52.390 --> 0:18:53.230 Everyone takes Guy. 0:18:53.270 --> 0:18:54.230 Out. Jesus. 0:18:54.270 --> 0:18:56.030 And that was why I wasn't even a gun. Like 0:18:56.030 --> 0:18:58.310 I wasn't even the best player. Yeah, like I was 0:18:58.310 --> 0:19:00.630 just a player. Yeah, but he got. And then that's 0:19:00.630 --> 0:19:02.270 what I mean. I've never seen the old man have 0:19:02.270 --> 0:19:03.030 a fight in his life. 0:19:03.350 --> 0:19:04.070 But he was. 0:19:04.109 --> 0:19:06.510 On this day. He was going to try and get one. Yeah. 0:19:06.710 --> 0:19:08.149 The bloke in the motorbike just went, whoa. 0:19:08.990 --> 0:19:11.310 It's funny you talk about your dad as a junior 0:19:11.350 --> 0:19:13.230 rugby league referee. Like you used to cop it from 0:19:13.230 --> 0:19:16.270 the supporters. Oh, mate, I remember doing a game. Brighton 0:19:16.270 --> 0:19:19.469 Seagulls down at Scarborough Park. It was an A-grade game, 0:19:19.470 --> 0:19:20.909 and I came off and there was a there was 0:19:20.910 --> 0:19:22.389 just all these people giving it to me in the 0:19:22.390 --> 0:19:24.910 corner and I come off the ground. Announcer goes, jeez, 0:19:25.190 --> 0:19:27.230 they're giving it to you today. And I said, yeah, yeah. 0:19:27.230 --> 0:19:29.920 They were pretty ruthless today. And I said, mate, who 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:32.520 was the main culprit? And I said, your dad? He 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:34.520 used to get on the drink. He used to get 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:37.119 on the drink with all the supporters and just let's 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:39.600 give it to the ref. Your eyes are painted on, 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:40.080 you idiot. 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:41.280 I wasn't expecting that. 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:43.800 Yeah, cause my dad and I get in the car 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:46.320 and he goes. You've had a shocker today, son. I said, yeah, 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:49.520 cos that's because the Brighton Seagulls are buying you beers. Anyway, 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:54.640 um uh, has the concept from Gen workhorse stats ruined 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:58.280 how we view actual impact forwards? Sometimes 15 tough runs 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:00.879 in the middle is better than 45 tough tackles. Do 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:02.840 coaches know the difference from Gen? 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:05.560 Oh, piggy. What do you think? Let me read. You're 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:06.120 more you're more. 0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:09.640 To comment on the context concept of workhorse stats ruined 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:13.000 how we view actual impact forwards. Sometimes 15 times runs 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:16.800 in the middle. It's better than 45 tough tackles. Of course, 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:18.200 coaches know the difference. 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:18.960 The eye test. 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:20.800 I said to read that a second time to make 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:23.119 sure I was reading the right thing, but of course 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:24.919 they do. If your job is an impact player to 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:27.080 come off the bench and you can change the momentum 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:28.810 of the game or change the speed of the game. 0:20:28.810 --> 0:20:30.930 You've done your job. Doesn't matter whether you've done 45 0:20:30.970 --> 0:20:33.250 tackles or not. Obviously you've got to defend well and 0:20:33.250 --> 0:20:35.689 make sure you make your tackles, but I don't I 0:20:35.690 --> 0:20:37.730 don't I don't see that as an issue. 0:20:37.770 --> 0:20:38.250 What he said. 0:20:38.330 --> 0:20:39.130 Everyone everyone. 0:20:39.130 --> 0:20:39.409 With him. 0:20:39.609 --> 0:20:41.770 Alright, a couple of quick ones before we go. Emma, 0:20:41.770 --> 0:20:44.450 if you had to describe the West Tigers last ten 0:20:44.450 --> 0:20:46.530 years using only three words, what are they. 0:20:47.090 --> 0:20:47.850 Not good enough? 0:20:48.450 --> 0:20:51.129 No, not not good enough. Yeah. I thought you could 0:20:51.170 --> 0:20:52.129 have gone a bit stronger than that. 0:20:52.170 --> 0:20:56.210 No I can't, young blokes, they're fucking shithouse. 0:20:58.450 --> 0:20:59.930 Shithouse has one word. Champion. 0:21:00.210 --> 0:21:01.930 Yeah, well, I was under three, wasn't I? 0:21:04.450 --> 0:21:05.810 Totally underachieving. 0:21:05.850 --> 0:21:13.290 Okay. Fucking shithouse mate. Well, you describe it. I think 0:21:13.290 --> 0:21:15.010 that's what everyone would describe it. 0:21:15.369 --> 0:21:17.570 Well, one irons one of their biggest fans. We should 0:21:17.609 --> 0:21:18.290 ask him what he thinks. 0:21:18.290 --> 0:21:19.250 Is that right? One, he. 0:21:19.290 --> 0:21:22.570 Absolute dog's breakfast. I'll clean it up a bit. Uh, 0:21:22.570 --> 0:21:25.490 Bill says if you could reverse exactly one contract decision 0:21:25.490 --> 0:21:27.690 your club made in the last three years, what would 0:21:27.690 --> 0:21:28.290 it be? 0:21:28.650 --> 0:21:30.250 Oh, Shane Flanagan. 0:21:31.250 --> 0:21:31.690 What? 0:21:34.810 --> 0:21:35.330 I thought. 0:21:36.010 --> 0:21:36.330 Wow. 0:21:39.650 --> 0:21:41.450 Can you clip this and send it to him? 0:21:41.850 --> 0:21:44.050 Put that on the socials. It'll go viral. 0:21:44.730 --> 0:21:46.330 Um, no, I got no idea. 0:21:46.369 --> 0:21:49.010 I'll go with Penrith. I haven't got one. Really? Like 0:21:49.290 --> 0:21:50.210 they've won four comps. 0:21:50.250 --> 0:21:51.690 Yeah I know it's hard for you. 0:21:51.730 --> 0:21:55.290 Like maybe a lot. Team still playing for Penrith. Yeah 0:21:55.330 --> 0:21:57.370 but I haven't really got one. 0:21:57.410 --> 0:21:59.929 I was if you could reverse exactly one. Yeah. No 0:21:59.970 --> 0:22:00.890 I'll stick with Flynn. 0:22:01.490 --> 0:22:03.050 So you want to still be coaching there. 0:22:03.490 --> 0:22:10.610 No, no we didn't want him there in the first place. Hey, Shane. 0:22:10.650 --> 0:22:11.010 Oh. 0:22:11.369 --> 0:22:13.409 You know, you're an avid podcast listener. 0:22:13.450 --> 0:22:15.370 What about Flynn? Rings me the other day. I'll tell 0:22:15.369 --> 0:22:17.649 this story. Flynn rings me the other day. Oh, lady, 0:22:17.650 --> 0:22:19.930 I've made it big time. If you watch my TV show. 0:22:19.970 --> 0:22:22.889 I said, no. He goes, I'm on Disney Plus. I said, what? 0:22:22.930 --> 0:22:25.380 Hanging out with Bugs Bunny. he said, oh, mate, we've 0:22:25.380 --> 0:22:28.300 got hundreds of thousands of listeners. I said, you're on TV. 0:22:28.340 --> 0:22:30.940 Why would they listen? So what about his kid? 0:22:30.980 --> 0:22:32.780 What about his kid? He. How sharp he's. 0:22:32.980 --> 0:22:34.020 I don't watch it. What is it? 0:22:34.060 --> 0:22:37.420 Oh, he's very sharply dressed there, but Kyle informed me 0:22:37.420 --> 0:22:41.540 that obviously it's not, um, not his choice that he's 0:22:41.540 --> 0:22:44.300 his lovely wife. Chooses his outfits for the show. 0:22:44.380 --> 0:22:46.180 But, mate, it's a rugby league show on Disney Plus. 0:22:46.220 --> 0:22:46.780 I know, I. 0:22:46.780 --> 0:22:47.379 Know, who cares? 0:22:47.420 --> 0:22:49.700 I'm just the messenger. Oh, okay. 0:22:50.140 --> 0:22:52.979 Hey, Shane, can you drop off leaking stuff to the 0:22:52.980 --> 0:22:55.340 media about being linked to this and being on channel 0:22:55.340 --> 0:22:58.340 seven and everything else, mate. Like you were avoiding the 0:22:58.340 --> 0:23:00.540 media when you got punted by Saint George Illawarra. Oh 0:23:00.540 --> 0:23:02.900 that's right. He left because he wanted to protect Kyle. 0:23:04.619 --> 0:23:05.260 Oh you're. 0:23:07.380 --> 0:23:10.580 Getting it anyway. Nice shirt Shane. Do they make them 0:23:10.580 --> 0:23:12.900 for men? See you. Bye bye bye. 0:23:14.260 --> 0:23:14.700 See you. 0:23:14.740 --> 0:23:17.500 That's it. We'll talk to you on Thursday. Mark my words. 0:23:17.500 --> 0:23:19.699 We love doing this. Hope you're enjoying it. Catch you 0:23:19.700 --> 0:23:20.379 later in the week.