WEBVTT - The outfit Tom wore that wouldn't be accepted anymore 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:08.560 Nine Podcasts. 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:14.320 Hi, I'm Tom and I'm Elise Elliott. 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:16.639 Now you may know me from the radio, but you 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:18.560 don't know him like I do. 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:21.600 Welcome to the Elliot Exchange, our podcast where we talk 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:24.520 about the quirks of marriage, parenting, and putting. 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:28.120 Up with someone who insists Hawaiian shirts are actually fashionable. 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:30.440 Hi there, Tom, Hello Elise. 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:33.879 We've got an exciting episode. We're talking about temperature in 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:36.880 the house. What setting do you like it at? Also 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:42.200 jobs of the future? Are our jobs at risk? And solitude? 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:45.440 Do humans really need to be all by themselves? 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:48.080 But of course first we have an email from Daphne, 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:52.000 so I think is a lady and you can send 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:54.720 your emails to Elliot Exchange at nine dot com, dot you. 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:57.959 Daphne says his winter settles in my husband and I 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:00.200 sounds like the Queen and the Christmas mess and. 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:01.320 My beloved Philip. 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:03.720 My husband and I have an ongoing fight about the 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:06.880 temperature in our house. I run cold, he runs hot. 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:09.360 Do you guys have this issue in your house? Who wins? 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:12.960 How do you manage it? This is not an uncommon thing. 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:15.040 This is a very common theme. 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:19.600 Because apparently and I looked into this women's bodies prioritize 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:23.600 the protection of the internal organs more than men, and 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:25.680 it's something to do with having a baby and that 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:29.520 sort of thing. And so mean, by and large don't 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:31.959 feel the cold nearly as much as women, And so 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:33.640 hence you get this fight with do we have the 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:35.640 heavy doner, do we have the heating turned up to 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:38.760 twenty fourre do we destroy the environment or do you 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:42.280 just put on a a pair of thick socks and 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:43.319 gloves in the house. 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:46.320 I am so with Daphne on this. I love the house, 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:49.640 said it a really sort of balmy twenty nine degrees. 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:52.680 I would if I could. I love being warm and 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:58.480 toasty inside. You are the extreme opposite. You're a cold man, Tom. 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:02.280 I have a warm heart, but I can tolerate lots 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:04.520 of cold. So I'm quite heavy walking around in the 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:05.560 snow with shorts on. 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:06.000 That is it? 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:08.120 Because you don't feel anything I can. 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:11.160 I do, And I see I can sense that other 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:13.200 people feel the cold, but it just doesn't worry me. 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:15.840 I think it's brisk and it keeps the blood flowing. 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:20.320 So, for example, today is particularly chili Dane Melbourne and 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:22.079 Hawaiian shirt and shorts. 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:26.120 Well Today's not that cold. So the other morning, well, 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:27.919 I'm just saying the other morning when I left home 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:30.919 it was two degrees celsius two and what we're wearing 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.720 Hawaiian shirt and shorts, and that's the two above freezing. 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:35.960 In fact, it felt like freezing. 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:40.280 There's an element of android about what would you say 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:43.040 that because you don't feel the cold? 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:46.200 Well, well, there's a dutch Man who I'm once interviewed 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:49.480 called whim Hoff, and he does things like he climbs 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:50.880 a mound everys just wearing a pair. 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:53.959 Of shorts and is he just talks about it being 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:55.040 a matter of fortitude. 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:58.239 Yes, And the latest trend in health is to have 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:00.799 an ice bath each day, which I like the look of. 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:03.160 Oh yeah, you'd quite like that. But there's an element 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.079 of self flagellation in the is that that appeals to you? 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.360 But look that the house thing is a real conundrum. 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:11.800 So what do couples do? Do you set on midway? 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:14.720 I think you could comfortably live in house. It's at 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:16.680 about sixteen seventy perfect. 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.760 Look, I think if you can see your breath temperature 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:23.480 is about right. What about what cars are in bed? 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:26.800 If you can see that's right? And you what about 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:28.920 what about what cars have done? So you now have 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:31.239 not just heating, but you have heated seats. 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:35.840 And I test drove a Mercedes AMG GT and it 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:39.760 was convertible and it has a neck heater. It's called 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:44.320 the next gars, right, and so it blows heat around 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:45.600 your neck as you're driving. 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:47.920 So we have this weird thing. Of course, least like 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:51.080 we could drive to the snow and on the way down, 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:54.120 I'll turn on the EIR conditioning because I've so enjoyed 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:55.200 the sub zero. 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.040 Team, and you do that after surfing when we have 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.280 it here. There's nothing quite like trying to peel off 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:01.640 a wet, freezing wet suit and you're hop in the 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:03.000 car and you have the air cone on. 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:05.840 So I think after the answer is there is no answer, 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.720 but you can rest assured that you are not alone. 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:12.120 And there are even companies now which will do things 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:14.200 like you can have a Douner which is quite literally 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.360 thick on one side and thin on the other. 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:17.120 That's great. 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:20.120 Or if you don't have a modern car and you 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.120 can afford one, you get one with heated seats and 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.359 your husband can keep his seats off. In fact, you 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:26.680 can even get seats which your air conditioned now. 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:29.880 So you could go air condition seats heated hot seat. 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:33.520 So there you go. It's another another battle of the 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:35.960 sex as we haven't solved now lis. 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:39.360 Donald Trump is trying to reindustrialize America. You know, he's 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:42.600 imposing tariffs on everyone, and he wants all the cars 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:46.400 and the steel Billy Joel sang about that and wants 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:49.240 all the jobs to come back to America. That's right, 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.880 iPhones made in America. They're going across like five thousand 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:56.359 US dollars each, but they'll be made in the USA. 0:04:56.440 --> 0:05:00.000 But it does beg the question about jobs of the future. 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:03.360 And I was talking to our daughter about this because 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:05.840 you know, fairly soon she's going to start picking her 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:08.720 final subjects for school. And then that leads into what 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:12.440 if anything, you might study at university, and I thought, 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:14.640 you know, like, what are the jobs of the future. 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:16.760 For example, some people are saying AI is going to 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.839 kill everything that you won't need lawyers or accountants anymore. 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:22.280 AI will do that. You won't need people who write 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:26.120 write stuff like advertising copywriting people. AI will do that. 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.320 People who write plans for think AI will do that. 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:31.440 You know, graphic artists. AI will do that. 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:37.200 Have it designing home so your architects as well, and scriptwriters, yes, 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:40.640 I mean what about nuance though? And humor? 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:43.800 Well, I think AI is going to do that too. 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:48.480 Like in the Second Terminator movie where the Arnold Schwarzenegger 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:52.120 terminator is the good Terminator. He's all banged up, you know, 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:55.400 it has been shot several times by the Red Eye. 0:05:55.400 --> 0:06:00.640 Only goes I need a vacation. He's learning. It'd be funny. 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:03.960 That's about as funny as Arnold gets. 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.320 Isn't It is very funny? 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:09.479 Yeah, So look, I think AI is a threat so 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:11.280 much so. Look I signed up for one of those 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:15.240 little courses, you know, AI for over a certain. 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:18.160 Age and got AI for Dummies or something. 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:20.880 There was an age thing in there and I lasted 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:22.720 two days because it was stultifying. 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:26.080 Well, but see, the issue is is that you can 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.400 you can take the view that AI like. Let's see, 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:31.320 if you put it in terms of students, AI is 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:34.520 probably a C to a B student of best. But 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:37.160 if you want to be a grade, you're still there 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:39.839 a person. But see the problem is not everybody is 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.280 a grade, and it's the people who aren't a grade 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:45.480 in terms of their creativity or whatever who might struggle 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:48.120 with AI. And then I think, well, you know, if 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:51.440 your toilet gets blocked, AI can't fix that, correct. 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:54.720 So it's really interesting. The government were toying with perhaps 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.880 an inheritance taxes, and they were saying one reason they 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:00.839 were doing that is because a lot of white collar 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:05.279 jobs will be gone with AI and they need taxes 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.880 from somewhere. But they said blue collar jobs will never 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:12.920 be replaced by AI. So further mo are to your 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:15.320 point about the toilet, So. 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.800 Buy you yeah, or a pickup truck, buy a big 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:23.880 box full of tools. Do an apprenticeship. And apprenticeships are fantastic, 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:25.640 you know, you do one with building and they say, right, 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.840 you're the apprentice. Go down to the hardware shop and 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:30.880 buy the left handed hammer. We need one. You know, 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:32.800 you go down and make a full We'll go and 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:35.200 buy a tin of stripe you paint. We need that 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:38.280 to Where's that? That's what That's what builders do with 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:41.120 the apprentice. And now you get to have a like 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:43.600 a like a hot dog and a sort of energy 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:44.040 drink for. 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.600 Breakfast every morning, and things like gardeners. 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:50.280 Gardening a cart. Do the builders, Well, there is a 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:53.760 machine in fact, there is a company called Something Robotics 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:56.840 which is built a brick laying machine, and it's a machine. 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:59.119 You can lay the bricks better and quicker than a human. 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:00.600 Can we now? 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:06.920 Beautiful segue and cue the sad music for Tom's really tough. 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:09.120 Two weeks of his life stoky bricks. 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:13.040 We never quite It was three weeks and it started 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:16.240 five in the morning. And this was in nineteen eighty 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:18.400 nine at middle when we didn't have robots and AI. 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:22.120 This is your one sort of touch, No no. I 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:25.080 did a lot of laboring jobs and my role in 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:26.720 brick stacking. So the bricks would come out of the 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:28.800 kill and they sit outside for two days and a 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.600 loose stacked to cool off, and then we'd bring them 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:33.440 in and we had to stack them into the smaller 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:35.200 stack that would go out to building size. That's all 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:37.960 done by machines now, but back then we were the machines. 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:41.679 And after one week, yes, one, they said would you 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:43.800 like to be the leading hand? I said, what does 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:45.920 that mean? He said, well, you get to wear the 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:48.800 tool belt and you get to operate the strapping machine. 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:52.800 Oh that sounds fainly, yeah, interesting. 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:53.800 And I said, why did you pick me? And he 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.200 said you speak English. 0:08:57.480 --> 0:08:59.600 Was this the same job where you were handed the 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:05.320 keys to the little pickup strike and you pierced a box? 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:07.680 That was That was a different job. That was where 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:09.679 I was working in a warehouse and they said, can 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:15.160 you drive a forklift driven one? And this is why 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:17.040 I me and often get given jobs because they lie 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.920 about what they can actually do. And sure there are 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:21.880 sort of instructions and all the levers about what you're 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.160 supposed to do, but they'd worn off and so I 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.080 had to move. I had to get a box off 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:28.520 a palette and put it up a thing, and instead 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:31.680 of the fork things going down, I had them going 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:35.240 straight ahead and they punch. They punched through the box. 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:37.640 And it turns out there was a color TV inside 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:39.680 the box. I just no one saw it. So I 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:41.760 just take the box up and then just drove the 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:43.719 forklift away and pretended I hadn't seen it. 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:45.400 Put it in what you thought was reversed. 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:50.000 And I do apologize to Lynn Fox Logistics, And. 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:51.360 Have you admitted that to him before? 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:51.640 No? 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:54.720 And mya who's who? I think we were delivering the 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:58.680 TV on behalf of But if a customer complained thirty 0:09:58.679 --> 0:09:59.319 six years ago. 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:13.600 It was my faul for I think stick to radio. 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:17.680 Do you like that's coming from? 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:20.040 Well it's a bit sad, isn't it. 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:25.280 Well, apparently humans do need solitude. Being alone can actually 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:29.360 make you happy, according to Daniel Schreiber. He believes the 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:33.000 correlation between people living alone without a partner and being 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:37.640 lonely has traditionally been well, will we say underestimated, because 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:42.120 apparently it is quite good for you. Now, you love 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.080 alone time you go into your man cave and I 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:48.439 reckon you. If you could, you'd put an electric fence 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:49.600 around your man cave. 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:50.640 You're a force field. 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:52.800 Well, they're all sort of is a force field. I 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:56.960 tried to come in last night, Hi, dying, and he 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:59.160 says busy. You actually said to me I'm busy. 0:10:59.400 --> 0:10:59.920 Well, it was. 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:03.080 Too busy to say hi, darling. 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.360 Well I was in the middle of something very complex. 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:07.040 Yeah, And if. 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.240 You break the train of thought, it means I have 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:10.800 to start again. So you know. 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:14.160 Look, I think if you lead a busy life, talking 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:16.200 a lot, dealing with a lot of people, which you 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:20.480 and I both do, solitude is a lovely respite. But 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:22.600 I don't think there's one size fits all. If you're 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:26.120 in a very very lonely job, or are a lonely person. 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:27.960 Maybe solitude ism for you are that well. 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:31.840 But seely some people are insanely social, and I mean 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:34.320 they have to be around other people all the time. 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.480 They're always talking to other people. They're not comfortable just 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:40.280 with their own company. Other people are quite happy to 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:42.040 have a mixture of things. Like I spent a lot 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:43.760 of my week, you know, talking to lots of people 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.240 and whatever, and then outside that time, I'd like to 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:51.520 just decompress, be by myself, not necessarily be physically alone, 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:53.760 but just just to have some time where I don't 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:57.200 have to rehash the problems of the world. And I 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:02.400 remember my predecessor on radio, a man called Darren Hinch. 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:04.720 Thank your Mother for the Rabbits That's. 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:09.760 Life aka the Human Headline. Darren had a number of relationships. 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:11.319 You won't mind me saying this because it's all on 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:13.680 the record, but one that I remember was he and 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:18.319 his then partner lived in the same apartment block in Melbourne, 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:21.200 but in separate apartments on separate floors of the building, 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:24.080 and they thought that was fantastic. I could go and 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:26.000 see each other and do whatever they do. And then 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.280 they retreat to their their own space. 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:29.680 You're suggesting you would like this. 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:33.920 No, I'm just saying for him it helps their relationship. 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:35.920 Is how it starts, isn't it. When you start you 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:39.040 buy me a little granny flat for me to move into. 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:43.280 So look, you, I think I think you prefer being 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:46.520 alone more than I do. I love human company. 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:48.120 Really, yes, twenty four to seven. 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:50.880 Look, the only time I like solitude is when I'm surfing, 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.160 so that's that's my alone time. 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.120 But if the Noah's Ark comes, you want lots of 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:00.360 other people to be out there, because you know means 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:04.000 if the shark attacks, yeah, yeah, if it's just you, 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:05.880 you're the target. If other people are out there, you've 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:07.320 got more of a chance of surviving. 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:12.199 There is that. But I prefer the company of humans, 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.440 So I think I just have to accept that you 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:16.280 have a force field. 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:20.160 For example, I'm quite happy sitting in say a cafe, 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:21.520 just having a meal by myself. 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:24.040 I always admire people who can sit alone in a cafe, 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:26.800 even without a phone, and just asi and look into 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.040 the distance like some intriguing. 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:30.840 Per think about what might have been maybe. 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:36.800 Reade watering heights sort of ramp up their intriguing scale. Yeah. Yeah, 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:39.320 so look, I think I kind of get it, maybe 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.440 a little bit of bit of quiet time, but I 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:45.720 think in forced loneliness is a sad thing. Tom gyms 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:47.920 and clothing. I'd like to say I have come a 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.400 long way from the eighties where we used to wear 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:57.560 fluorescent g string leotards over shiny pants, maybe a little 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:05.480 fetching headband with matching wristbands. Allah, Let's Get Physical white 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:06.520 a sexy film clip. 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:08.800 I gotta say, Olivia Neutron. 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.840 Yeah, that was the second album I owned, after Michael 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:15.880 Jackson Off the Wall and Stevie Wonder Master Blaster. I 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.880 had a living in John Let's Get Physical. It was very, 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:19.400 very hot. 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:22.160 Well there was. There was actually an atteamp to try 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:25.160 and sex up Olivia a bit, particularly in America, and 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:27.760 that's why that that that song was produced. But when 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:31.680 I remember being quite influenced by the one hit Wonder, 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:35.040 British band called Wright said tread sexy form, I love 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:41.920 loves going to leave with Iron too sexy because they were, 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.240 and I have to say I owned one. 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:51.120 You did not? Yes, did you own a Mesh singer? 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:52.120 What color mesh? 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:52.280 Did? 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:52.720 I ask? 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:58.440 Black? Did you wear the gym. I did with what 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:00.000 what with? What with perish? 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:01.200 How short? 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:04.480 Well they were relatively short, but they were quite cut 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:05.280 up at the thigh. 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.800 Don't fair this? What year? Please? Oh? 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:11.760 That would have been well if it was right, said Fred. 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:14.120 There has to be nineteen ninety one or thereabouts, because 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:20.800 that's when they came out. They did have an underpart lining, 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.680 but it's they've taken a. 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:27.480 Bit of a did you wear irony or seriously no seriousness? 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:29.200 And how did you think you looked in that? 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:33.080 Quite smart iran? The the only one. Only time I 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:35.640 ran a marathon, I would not wear a meshing, No, 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.880 but I wore I wore a pair of sort of 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:43.240 tight shorts, like made out of spandex. And because it 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.120 was the late eighties that you know, it had a 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:47.960 pink panel, a green panel, a fluorescent yellow panel, and 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:51.040 an orange panel, and I thought that would look smart 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:52.000 in the running race. 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.800 So back to the meshing, like, did you pick up 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:55.680 anyone at the gym? 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.280 No? Well, some men thought it was quite interesting, but 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:01.640 that wasn't my pert target market. Of course, it's all 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:05.200 legal these days, but when you look about what people 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:08.560 wear like, I also remember in the early nineties Andre 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:11.240 Agassy was playing at Wimbledon and he said he didn't 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:13.480 want to wear all white, and the all England Tennis 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:15.000 clubs is you have to wear all white. And when 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:17.080 he walked after his first match, but it's like, what 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:19.440 is he going to wear? And he came out head 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:22.080 to toe pure white, not even not even you know, 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:24.360 a piping or anything that was a different color. So 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:26.880 he went all the way of wearing fluorescent colors and 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:28.880 things and say I'm going to wear all white. And 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:30.920 of course the old days in tennis they still wear 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:34.120 long trousers and ladies would wear dresses when they played, 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:36.480 so you know, not to distract the audience by showing 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.760 them a finally turned ankle or anything. So you know, 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:43.360 what about what about the high wasted leotar. Now that's 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:45.240 a look that probably shouldn't. 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:48.160 Come back, yea, even in the high cutlets. 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:51.120 Yeah, Jane Fonder style them. 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:52.880 You know you're breeding club or. 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:56.800 I think that's coming back. Seven bathies, my. 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.960 Cup bait Jane Fonder, he's eighty five or something. 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:03.680 The young folks today like to wear is shot shorts 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:07.600 in lycra because the booty is really very much a focus. 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:09.719 About the sock ling. So I'm trying to push for 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:13.040 long socks again and I've been wearing them around the place. 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:18.840 Is that trend taking off? No, you're trying valiantly. 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:21.080 You are trying the fact that you can still buy 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:22.880 them proves that there is a market for them. 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:26.520 So do you think we should have gym police when 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:27.400 it comes to clothing? 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:29.760 Well, there was a woman who was kicked off in 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:34.280 an American airline because she wore basically gym gear like 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:36.840 it wasn't much more than a bra top. 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:41.680 And that's a whole separate But in the gyms. 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:43.159 In the gym, I think, you know, as long as 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.880 you're comfortable and not displaying leaving something to the imagination, 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:47.760 that's that's. 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:51.879 Surely too vague. I think whatever people are comfortable training in, 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:53.640 and people shouldn't be perving anyway. 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:59.080 Well, gym that point. There's a girl in the UK's 0:17:59.119 --> 0:17:59.640 in Australia. 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:01.840 Many people you follow, I follow. 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:02.960 Some strange people. 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:06.800 This girl the hot skipper you follow? Yeah, she's not 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:08.000 skipper as in. 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:10.960 She's as jump jumping. She's fantastic. 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:11.600 You follow her. 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:13.680 She took up skipping during the pandemic. 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:15.359 And now I've been coming in and you're watching her 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:17.560 when I when I break through the force field into 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:20.439 your study, you are watching a lot of her videos. 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:23.800 She's the world's skipper. She has made millions of dollars 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:27.440 or pounds through doing skipping routines. This other girl, she's 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:30.359 a build up and I think she wear. 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:31.840 A tool belt with what was that thing you had 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:32.480 to have as. 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:36.959 Well the the tool belt with the strapping machine? 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:38.240 She got a strapping machine. 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:41.160 I don't know, okay, But the point is her coworkers 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:44.600 on a hot day take their shirts off, and she says, 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:47.520 she reckons that it's only fair that she be allowed 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:51.000 to do building topless on the building side, and she's 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:53.480 taking them to court. Now, no, this is not a gym, 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:57.360 But to be honest, she might win because if her 0:18:57.400 --> 0:18:59.399 male co workers are allowed to go to topless on 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:03.400 the building, so what about her anyway, she's arguing for that. 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:05.360 But no, no, I think in gym's you know, look, 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:08.320 I The only other thing I would say there is, 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:10.920 if you're going to wear lots of super tight clothes, 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:13.440 you've sort of got to have the physique to carry 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:13.760 it off. 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:17.720 Judge that we like, what was it a weight thing? 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:19.480