Speaker 1: On two GB four BC and network stations. This is
Speaker 1: our Stranger overnight with my Jeffreys.
Speaker 2: Good morning here, it is Monday, well it's Monday, and
Speaker 2: a lot of places, not everywhere that we go to,
Speaker 2: but lots of places anyway. The plan is to be
Speaker 2: here for five and a half hours left seven and
Speaker 2: a half minutes, and I would like to encourage some discussion.
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Speaker 2: a text if you want to do that. Zero four
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Speaker 2: read them out well, mostly mostly if I'm running out
Speaker 2: of time. Sometimes I overlook them, but I do read them,
Speaker 2: but I just don't always have a time to read
Speaker 2: them on their But this time of the morning, we
Speaker 2: should be fine. If you want to send me a text.
Speaker 2: We can build up little backlock of those if you
Speaker 2: choose to do so. But I encourage people to ring
Speaker 2: and talk. You know, we can converse that way. I
Speaker 2: have been known to throw in my own two cents worth,
Speaker 2: but generally speaking, I'm interested in parading views and opinions.
Speaker 2: And if you have either of those and you want
Speaker 2: to call with it, give me a ring one three
Speaker 2: one eight seven three what to talk about? Do you
Speaker 2: want to talk about the Middle East? I'm looking at
Speaker 2: the courier mail tabloid headline here Don goes nuclear US
Speaker 2: forces bracing for retaliation after bold move by President. Do
Speaker 2: you want to talk about the president's move? I mean,
Speaker 2: we don't have to talk about that. We can talk
Speaker 2: about something near at home. I try and keep the
Speaker 2: discussion general, you know, because the program goes to different
Speaker 2: parts all over. But if you have an opinion on
Speaker 2: what's going on in the Middle East, of course you're
Speaker 2: welcome to call with it. But if you've got something
Speaker 2: else you want to discuss, you know me, I'm a
Speaker 2: servant of the people. I'll be guided by what people
Speaker 2: want to talk about. But as far as comment on
Speaker 2: what's happening and getting all the news coverage, I noted
Speaker 2: a couple of comments in the mainstream media. There's lots
Speaker 2: of comments in the alternative media as well, but certainly
Speaker 2: in the mainstream. He's an angry man, Shannon Cummings. He says,
Speaker 2: in part, a nation that once contributed blood and steel
Speaker 2: to the preservation of the West now offers only minerals.
Speaker 2: He's talking about the Australian government. Of course, He says,
Speaker 2: we sell lithium to the Chinese Communist Party by day,
Speaker 2: and by night beg Washington for protection from the monster
Speaker 2: we feed. Shannon says, this is not sovereignty, It's serfdom
Speaker 2: with delusions of grandeur, and history will not forget it.
Speaker 2: It will not forget that when Israel faced annihilation, Camber
Speaker 2: shows caution over clarity. It will remember that when the
Speaker 2: world needed allies, Australia offered ambiguity, that when the West
Speaker 2: needed strength, it got a sermon from Wong. Australia has
Speaker 2: become the whimpering cousin at the family table of civilization,
Speaker 2: reaping the benefits of bravery long past while resenting those
Speaker 2: who still bear the burden of action. What do you
Speaker 2: think he's another thought? Pressure will build on Albanesi to
Speaker 2: either back US action or explain why he doesn't. Will
Speaker 2: that work or do you think he'll just keep twisting
Speaker 2: and turning and saying not me, I didn't do it
Speaker 2: somebody else. See this one by Simon Benson says the
Speaker 2: lack of even implicit support from the alban Ezi GUPN
Speaker 2: for the US strikes on Around's nuclear facilities marks a
Speaker 2: further deterioration in the political relationship between Canberra and Washington.
Speaker 2: The deafening silence will doubtless be noticed by the Trump administration,
Speaker 2: but it will hardly surprise. Australia's foreign policy under the
Speaker 2: Albanese government appears to have collapsed to the point of
Speaker 2: serving little more than a domestic purpose, I think, and
Speaker 2: Simon doesn't go on any more detail on that, but
Speaker 2: I think that's a very telling observation. Collapse to the
Speaker 2: point of serving little more than a domestic purpose. See.
Speaker 2: One of the great cliches is all politics is local.
Speaker 2: Well yes, no, yeah, no, maybe, but yes, I think
Speaker 2: it's very much local. There are people here who, have
Speaker 2: no doubt, helped the Albanesi government to assume the position
Speaker 2: that they have after the recent election, and Penny and
Speaker 2: Elbow don't offend them. It's been suggested that the joint
Speaker 2: Australian and United States naval communications station, the Northwest Cape Facility,
Speaker 2: could and would have likely been involved in communications involving
Speaker 2: Tomahawk missile launchers from US submarines during the operation. Now
Speaker 2: I'll divert here from what Simon has to say, because
Speaker 2: I've been just reading him up till now. And ask,
Speaker 2: have you seen mister Shubridge in his comments, you know
Speaker 2: that we should well I'm paraphrasing, but he's saying we
Speaker 2: should totally disown what Donald Trump has done, de escalate
Speaker 2: and yeah, you know, people say war's awful. I don't disagree.
Speaker 2: The Great Civil War General William to comes. As Sherman said,
Speaker 2: war is cruelty. The best thing you can do is
Speaker 2: end it as quickly as you can. But if it
Speaker 2: comes to the point where another nation invades, what do
Speaker 2: you do? What do you do, mister Shubridge? Do you
Speaker 2: just surrender the real estate and learn a new language?
Speaker 2: Is that the answer? Anyway? I'm talking about it a
Speaker 2: Greeney here, and it's not necessarily. There are a lot
Speaker 2: to deal with the real world. However, I would hope
Speaker 2: that the two major parties, although we've got one major
Speaker 2: and one used to be a major party at the moment,
Speaker 2: that they would have more experience of the real world.
Speaker 2: But I think the reality is that they don't. I mean,
Speaker 2: I've been watching the Passing Parade for a while and
Speaker 2: spoken to a few players during that time, and it
Speaker 2: seems to me we are now at a point and
Speaker 2: this doesn't apply just to politics, but certainly to politics
Speaker 2: in this country that we have people who are good
Speaker 2: at playing internal politics, but when it comes to the
Speaker 2: real world, not much sign of any understanding there. You know,
Speaker 2: people who don't really know me have said that I'm
Speaker 2: a conservative. Conservative to me means sticking to the old ways.
Speaker 2: Now I don't really think that's me, but I do
Speaker 2: like to think that I'm a pragmatist. And if you're
Speaker 2: going to be a pragmatist in Australian government, who do
Speaker 2: you choose? As A G. Gankowski said on this program
Speaker 2: a few weeks ago, do you choose China or the US? Well,
Speaker 2: the people who represent US at these international conventions, you know,
Speaker 2: when they can get a meeting, which is noways the case,
Speaker 2: they are well, as a couple of commentators in the
Speaker 2: mainstream media have said, ambiguous at best. So anyway, what
Speaker 2: do you think you've got a view? Do you care
Speaker 2: about that or would you rather talk about something closer
Speaker 2: to home. I'm going to talk to Dr Marney later
Speaker 2: on about what's described as the bathroom divorce. You know,
Speaker 2: real real grassroots problems. When you're Darling leaves the bathroom
Speaker 2: in such a mess, we can talk about that. There's
Speaker 2: a couple of other things I've got in mind. I'll
Speaker 2: tell you what I did think was pretty good, and
Speaker 2: he's getting some plaudits for it, as they say in
Speaker 2: the media. Shadow Home Affairs Minister Andrew Hasty has been
Speaker 2: commended for his response to a heckler who interrupted his
Speaker 2: speech following US strikes and Iran. There's a lady with
Speaker 2: a head covering who was kind of shrieking something in
Speaker 2: the background. But he said, well, free countries, she's allowed
Speaker 2: to say what she likes. And well, when we say free,
Speaker 2: I mean free ish. But I thought he did that
Speaker 2: pretty well. You know, if you're going to go into
Speaker 2: public life, not everybody will agree with you, and sometimes
Speaker 2: the people who don't agree with you an't always polite
Speaker 2: about it. They can be quite rude food and their
Speaker 2: comments can be ill timed. But anyway, I thought Hasty
Speaker 2: dealt with it pretty well. But if you've got an
Speaker 2: observation you'd like to make, give me a ring one
Speaker 2: three one eight seven three or send me a text,
Speaker 2: or you can send me an email if you like.
Speaker 2: Just send it to Overnights at two GB dot com.
Speaker 2: Here's a comment from an anonymous individual who says Shuebridge
Speaker 2: is a moron with no understanding of geopolitics and the
Speaker 2: threats that could arise. Well, you could say that, and
Speaker 2: you did. Mix says good Morning, Assassin Morning Mick, Ruddy
Speaker 2: and Elbow's remarks about the Trumpster weren't forgotten by the
Speaker 2: President when the PM was snubbed at the G seven. Now,
Speaker 2: Albow says, Mick is showing how weak he is again.
Speaker 2: He must have secretly been happy when the meeting with
Speaker 2: Trump was called off. Yes, just verging from mixed comments,
Speaker 2: a lot of people seem to say that, you know, boy,
Speaker 2: he certainly did one when he didn't get the meeting
Speaker 2: with Trump, although supposedly then tried again. But that hasn't
Speaker 2: happened either, and it's all been overtaken by events. As
Speaker 2: they say. Uh, Mick says, I reckon he's scared of Trump.
Speaker 2: That's Mick from Winston Hills what he thinks. Tony says,
Speaker 2: Trump's own supporters like Owen's, Carlson and Bannon are calling
Speaker 2: bs on him starting a war and Iran. Trump broke
Speaker 2: his promise of no new wars. Well, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't be pedantic, but he didn't actually say no new wars.
Speaker 2: He said though, that America wouldn't get involved in any
Speaker 2: overseas wars. Uh. Fred has called in from Campbelltown. Good morning, Fred,
Speaker 2: good morning, good morning.
Speaker 3: Is it morning already?
Speaker 2: Well it is here. What's the different time zone in Campbelltown?
Speaker 2: Is what you're saying. Fred?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, I'm fairly old, and I just can't understand
Speaker 3: what way the Western world it's like Donald Trump. They've
Speaker 3: condemned him in the courts saying that he both this
Speaker 3: fat and the other the West world are the only
Speaker 3: ones that have got to abide by these rules when
Speaker 3: Russia has clearly defined all rules there. Everybody else ignores
Speaker 3: what the rules.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, of course we have the situation with the UN, which,
Speaker 2: as you know, is as weak as you know what
Speaker 2: UH and Russia or China con veto. So, but the
Speaker 2: UN has always been useless as long as we've known them.
Speaker 3: Anyway, our government's not much bloody better.
Speaker 2: I didn't say our government was any better, Fred.
Speaker 3: Oh, listen, they may will join the opposition, because that's
Speaker 3: where we're heading.
Speaker 2: A lot of people said that, but they usually complain
Speaker 2: about the Liberal Party and say the Liberal Party is
Speaker 2: just labor light and we have the uni party system.
Speaker 2: That's what some people say. Other people say. People who
Speaker 2: say that are in the fringes, but it happens.
Speaker 3: Well, look, I'm not totally in favor of the Liberal
Speaker 3: Party altogether, because that's half the reason we shall our
Speaker 3: stuff off and paybe prices, you know, but where I'm
Speaker 3: certainly not.
Speaker 2: You're talking about the pathetic gas deals for the East Coast,
Speaker 2: that sort of thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all that.
Speaker 3: You want to get rid of the bloody Greens Party
Speaker 3: and then you then neither party will have anything to
Speaker 3: bloody stand on.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: It's not the encouraging picture that you paint, Fred, but
Speaker 2: I understand why you might see it the way you done.
Speaker 3: On nearly eighty years of age. And I'm going through
Speaker 3: labor when labor was a good party.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then then when was that? When did they
Speaker 2: stop being a good party labor? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Back in the early days, mate. I worked in the
Speaker 3: calm once years.
Speaker 2: Right, So what are you talking about? You're talking about
Speaker 2: the forties fifties to about GoF Whitlam. What are you
Speaker 2: talking about?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I'm I was born just after the depression, yeah,
Speaker 3: and I've seen a lot of things happen, and we
Speaker 3: got the Greens Party there. Some of their ideas are
Speaker 3: all right, but this business of closed us down, shutting
Speaker 3: us down, We've got no power, no nothing.
Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense at any level. Fred. But
Speaker 2: I presume that there's something going on to which we
Speaker 2: are not privy, as they say that driving our ridiculous
Speaker 2: renewables approach, which hasn't worked anywhere else.
Speaker 3: Mate, we're already if you have a look how free
Speaker 3: we were back in the sixties and seventies. In the eighties, well,
Speaker 3: not so much the eighties, but we were free. We
Speaker 3: could walk down the street with a gun, you know,
Speaker 3: in hardware shop.
Speaker 2: You'd see people on the tram with the rifle. Apparently, yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: But I mean.
Speaker 3: I've got a farm and I can't even get a
Speaker 3: license for bloody gun to shoot the bloody animals. For
Speaker 3: the foxes are killing the sheep.
Speaker 2: I saw the premiere talking about that recently. He wants
Speaker 2: to free it up for professional hunters and make it
Speaker 2: attractive to them by having a bounty on you know,
Speaker 2: the feral foxes and goats and cats and all those things.
Speaker 2: Do you think that would work?
Speaker 3: The only trouble is, mate, there's a lot of people
Speaker 3: that weren't. Oh well, even people in Australia. They go
Speaker 3: up and they think they're in more War bloody three.
Speaker 3: They're shooting shooting birds o the threes and everything. You've
Speaker 3: got to have a decent You've got to know who's
Speaker 3: doing the shooting.
Speaker 2: You know who's got the gun, who's.
Speaker 3: Got the guns? Well, all the criminals have got the guns. Yeah,
Speaker 3: to protect myself with.
Speaker 2: Well, all those changes they made really only applied to
Speaker 2: the reasonably law abiding, which is so off in the case. Anyway, Fred,
Speaker 2: appreciate your call, have a good morning.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for having listening to me.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Okay, bye, see your Fred. Uh John has
Speaker 2: called in from where did we decide? Cogger? Good John?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 7: Might I usually usually five I am every morning. I'm
Speaker 7: listening to you before photo gets on on there. But
Speaker 7: I'm just just off by memory. Just before we had
Speaker 7: the elections, new cir fales Chrismins came to the hospital
Speaker 7: up here at Saint George at eleven pm.
Speaker 2: In the night.
Speaker 7: I'm going to fix all this. I'm going to get
Speaker 7: more doctors, no more nurses, emergencies all hours and everything
Speaker 7: been sitting here five and a half hours on there,
Speaker 7: five and a half hours, and there's another twenty five
Speaker 7: people in front.
Speaker 8: There was an hour ago.
Speaker 2: Is that right? And so why are you waiting to
Speaker 2: see the doctor? John, I'm not waiting.
Speaker 7: I've brought somebody in with a crooked leg and that's
Speaker 7: that's That's how long I've been waiting outside. There's no
Speaker 7: way I'm going to wait inside with all the germs
Speaker 7: and everything on there. Mate, he came out here, he said,
Speaker 7: we're going to put more nurses, more doctors. So on
Speaker 7: eleven thirty in the night, he came out just to
Speaker 7: make a blood impression on it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what happens.
Speaker 7: Everyone said, it's worse, not nowhere near it.
Speaker 2: Okay, So you know politicians promises promises, So he really
Speaker 2: hasn't mate, Yeah, Hello, yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Mike.
Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, I don't think it's just the
Speaker 7: only hospital. I mean all the others, the same thing
Speaker 7: on them, all the all the money it should be
Speaker 7: gone into more doctors, more nurses, watch them open, even
Speaker 7: open the some of the private ones. Let the private
Speaker 7: hospitals take some of the load up on their pay
Speaker 7: him on there. If he had five billion dollars to
Speaker 7: fork out for rose Hill race Course. I'm sure he
Speaker 7: could bloody use it for all that too, m hm.
Speaker 2: And deal with the more immediate issues.
Speaker 9: Five billion.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well he was gonna fork out five billion dollars
Speaker 7: for that Rosehill race course remember a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, well he's a knock back. Presumably if he
Speaker 2: hadn't got the knock back, as you say, then it
Speaker 2: would have gone ahead. Yeah. Well, John, I hope this
Speaker 2: is your friend or a family member that you've taken
Speaker 2: to the hospital.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, friend on there like I mean nothing,
Speaker 7: what's the name? But you got to wait in the Yeah,
Speaker 7: have no choice on it. You can't just budge in
Speaker 7: and say, look, do my leg. Don't worry about the
Speaker 7: other thirty five people then yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: Too many people, not enough services to provide adequate in
Speaker 2: this case healthcare. Yes, on there, so I understand John
Speaker 2: is there? Yeah?
Speaker 9: There would have went through a lot quicker, wouldn't I.
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, if they had more doctors without applies to
Speaker 2: so many places as you say. Anyway, John, I hope
Speaker 2: you don't have to wait too much longer. But thank
Speaker 2: you for calling this morning.
Speaker 7: No worries, no worries, all of us.
Speaker 2: Take it easy. I suppose we should play some commercials,
Speaker 2: and is called in from tarn Point. Good morning, Anne.
Speaker 10: Hello.
Speaker 11: No, I don't know whether it's interesting to you past
Speaker 11: last Sunday night. You're talking on the phone to somebody,
Speaker 11: and I don't know what you're talking about. That you
Speaker 11: mentioned that the show Would I Lie to You?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 12: Do you remember that?
Speaker 11: And you watch it?
Speaker 5: Obviously you watch it?
Speaker 2: Yes, I love it.
Speaker 11: That's one of my favorite shows because they're so clever.
Speaker 11: But you said to this person, it's canned laughter, and
Speaker 11: it's still a real audience.
Speaker 2: I don't notice it so much with Would I Lie
Speaker 2: to You. Where I really notice it is with the
Speaker 2: show that's on before it sometimes Q and I Q
Speaker 2: I q I or whatever it is. But I don't
Speaker 2: notice it so much with Would I Lie to You,
Speaker 2: Although sometimes I think they could mike the contributors a
Speaker 2: bit better. But I really enjoy that show because I
Speaker 2: don't know if I'm being naive, and but it looks
Speaker 2: to me like the people they get on really can
Speaker 2: add lib. And people who can add lib are the
Speaker 2: ones that impress me. There's some clever people that come
Speaker 2: out with prepared material, you know, like Dave Chappelle and
Speaker 2: Jimmy Carr and people like that. Well, although Jimmy Carr
Speaker 2: is a very good ad liber it's really he ad
Speaker 2: libs that impress me rather than the prepared material.
Speaker 10: Well, me too.
Speaker 11: They're so clever, Yeah, well, I mean David Mitchell, he's
Speaker 11: clever in a different way that Li Mac is very clever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 11: I've been watching The Chef that's up to season eighteen,
Speaker 11: and I know they have an audience because I've seen them.
Speaker 11: Sometimes I bring somebody out of the audience for some reason,
Speaker 11: it has happened.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know they have an audience. I've seen the audience.
Speaker 2: But no, yes, because I do watch it quite a lot.
Speaker 2: But the other one I think is worse for the
Speaker 2: cand laughter. But did I say that? Did I include
Speaker 2: what I lie to you and that comment about the
Speaker 2: caned laughter? Do I?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 11: Yeah, she didn't.
Speaker 13: That's what you know.
Speaker 2: So what do you think? Do you think it sounds canned?
Speaker 14: No?
Speaker 2: I mean just because they've got a live audience doesn't
Speaker 2: mean to say they don't augment it.
Speaker 11: Yeah, they could do that. But you know, did you
Speaker 11: see the one where lean back said he'd gone to
Speaker 11: Prince Terry's wedding.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I can't remember what their punchline was.
Speaker 2: What was that about?
Speaker 11: Well, they did show well he said he's been invited
Speaker 11: to the wedding and the wedding was on that day.
Speaker 11: And then Rob Brydon says, well, audience is the wedding?
Speaker 11: Is the wedding on today? And the audience all said you,
Speaker 11: So I thought, well, I think it didn't seem like
Speaker 11: it was dubbed or anything. It seems so real. But
Speaker 11: I've also seen I've also seen it when I know,
Speaker 11: iscrotably boring to you, but i've seen it when they've
Speaker 11: dragged a woman under the audience or a few times,
Speaker 11: this particular one with she had this horrible bright cardigan
Speaker 11: or jumper or something and they're talking about a terrible
Speaker 11: taste in clothes. Will you know.
Speaker 10: Yeah, she was happy.
Speaker 11: To come on. It was It's a very clever show.
Speaker 11: But I just wanted to teach you right if you
Speaker 11: were wrong, But she probably won't that to me, it's
Speaker 11: not Kent, it's real.
Speaker 2: Well, they do have a real audience. I'll have to
Speaker 2: listen to it again to confirm whether I think it's
Speaker 2: it's overdone, but I do notice it, particularly on the
Speaker 2: other show, and I find it annoying, but I do
Speaker 2: enjoy that. Would I lie to you for the reasons
Speaker 2: I've just given? Yeah, well we can agree.
Speaker 15: On that evolution.
Speaker 2: Yeah okay.
Speaker 11: Then well I just thought I've been thinking about this
Speaker 11: all week, and well I really want to talk about it.
Speaker 10: It's probably too.
Speaker 11: Boy, no, no, if okay, then thanks for listening.
Speaker 2: Thank you. An If people don't tell me where I'm
Speaker 2: going wrong, how will I ever grow? Helen's called in
Speaker 2: from Cale, good morning. How I'll tell you when you
Speaker 2: were Thank you, Helen.
Speaker 13: Oh that's all right, no problems. I was listening to that.
Speaker 13: I've the day's gone very quick. I've been interested in
Speaker 13: all of this thing with the bombing in Iran and
Speaker 13: just how clever it was. But it was interesting when
Speaker 13: over my head this stupid statement. It all went over
Speaker 13: my head, but it was interesting to listen to that
Speaker 13: general say how they did it, and it was just amazing.
Speaker 13: And the one thing that I did take in about
Speaker 13: it was the precision. No one knew about it, and
Speaker 13: just how fabulous and fabulously trained are their navy Army
Speaker 13: and Air Force and those big bombers, and the the
Speaker 13: bombers had the big bunker bomb of things in it
Speaker 13: that was going to go down in the mountain, that
Speaker 13: was refueled six times in the air, and then they
Speaker 13: had at a certain time three jet bombers had to
Speaker 13: follow it to make sure no one was going to
Speaker 13: hit that. Say to speak, but it was all but yeah.
Speaker 2: I saw that in the vision following to look after it.
Speaker 2: But love it or hate it, or love it, love
Speaker 2: the whole thing. I hated that the main bomber is
Speaker 2: a spectacular piece of machinery.
Speaker 13: Oh god, do you know what. I just think that
Speaker 13: it was. I was just fascinated all day. But the
Speaker 13: thing that I got angry about was that. And we've
Speaker 13: seen it in the last couple of weeks about three
Speaker 13: or four times, where in you run and with that
Speaker 13: leader that and he's got all these worshipers and they're
Speaker 13: saying death to America and death to England. And I
Speaker 13: do believe that if they had a nuclear weapon, they
Speaker 13: would use it. And I just I do believe that.
Speaker 13: And I just think that you got all these countries
Speaker 13: and these people say, oh, oh, what'sn't that awful? Oh,
Speaker 13: it was just terrible. I thought, well, why don't you
Speaker 13: just what if they didn't do anything and then you
Speaker 13: were bombed.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's interesting that you got as much detail about
Speaker 2: the technicals of it, because I've been watching it for
Speaker 2: hours yesterday, and what I mainly seem to get was
Speaker 2: people commentating on whether or not Trump did the right
Speaker 2: thing and what's likely to occur now, where I was
Speaker 2: really interested in confirming the technical details, because those bombs
Speaker 2: you talk about, the first one supposedly can dig into
Speaker 2: the mountain to a depth of a bit over sixty meters.
Speaker 2: Then they attempt or succeed succeed I guess according to
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, they drop the next one in the same hole,
Speaker 2: so it'll go in another sixty meters. But of course,
Speaker 2: I mean, who do you believe in all this? Trump said,
Speaker 2: that was a perfectly executed exercise, and watch yourself. I
Speaker 2: will do even worse. But then of course the Iranians
Speaker 2: are saying, oh, it wasn't a big deal really, But
Speaker 2: I don't know. I would just like to see some confirmation.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you get it, but some real
Speaker 2: confirmation of exactly what went on and the main one
Speaker 2: did they actually wipe it out totally. But as for
Speaker 2: what they would do with the bomber, I think, you know,
Speaker 2: the extremists there who follow the Ayatollah with their medieval
Speaker 2: value system. I mean, they're pretty much death cultren't they'd
Speaker 2: be happy bomb the rest of the world, even if
Speaker 2: it meant they wipe themselves out so they could go
Speaker 2: to paradise.
Speaker 13: Yes, well, that's right, and I think they would use it.
Speaker 13: And I was just fascinated with this general. As I said,
Speaker 13: a lot of it did go over my head, but
Speaker 13: I was surprised what I.
Speaker 12: Did pick up about it.
Speaker 13: But they had six of those big bombs. They six. Yeah,
Speaker 13: I just and I feel sorry for the Israel we've got.
Speaker 13: I can't stand our government here. The last three years
Speaker 13: have been this country is so we don't have anything
Speaker 13: about anything. We're really just on the edge of becoming
Speaker 13: Third world to a large degree, and we've got Shuebridge
Speaker 13: and all these rap bags saying stupid things. But I
Speaker 13: don't know, it just leaves me, leaves me speechless. He
Speaker 13: hasn't opened his mouth this Alban easy.
Speaker 4: It's just.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think Albo acquitted himself well in
Speaker 2: the previous election because he obviously had a smart team
Speaker 2: behind him. First of all, Albow knows how to play
Speaker 2: the internal politics and what I've heard over the years,
Speaker 2: he's been doing that for a long time and that's
Speaker 2: got him into the position where he is. But the
Speaker 2: team behind him, I thought a lot of what they
Speaker 2: did was really basic, and I was surprised that people
Speaker 2: ate it up the way they did. But then the opposition,
Speaker 2: the Coalition was so pathetic in so many ways.
Speaker 13: Yes, yes, no, they were pathetic. But I've never liked him.
Speaker 13: I think he's a weak man and we're getting worse
Speaker 13: and worse and worse, and honestly, can you imagine where
Speaker 13: we're going to be in another three or six years.
Speaker 13: I don't know how we can get rid of them.
Speaker 13: We got rid of Wickram. I don't know why we can't.
Speaker 10: Get rid of this bloke.
Speaker 13: Because they're destroying our energy and our electricity.
Speaker 2: Yes, I know, it's just ridiculous what they're doing there.
Speaker 2: But uh, you know, he did he did do well
Speaker 2: during the campaign. I must say I was interested because
Speaker 2: my immediate visceral, as they say, reaction when I first
Speaker 2: saw Albot get the gig being head of the party
Speaker 2: was the same as Tucker Carlson's. Did you know Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 13: Said, Oh, yes, I know he.
Speaker 2: Said this little spiv.
Speaker 13: Hmm, yeah, that's that's exactly right. And why would Trump
Speaker 13: want to talk to him? I mean, why, of good
Speaker 13: serve would anybody want to talk to him? I just
Speaker 13: don't get it. And what did he do anyway? Show
Speaker 13: a little grain card? I mean, what a tweet?
Speaker 2: But it worked for them that, you know, the really
Speaker 2: blunt advertising and the big money giveaway really worked for them.
Speaker 13: I did.
Speaker 2: I know. Also, I know I understand exploiting the system too,
Speaker 2: because you know, the first preference votes were only thirty
Speaker 2: four percent, but with the preferential system, there he is.
Speaker 13: And I know, dear, I don't know. Anyway, it was
Speaker 13: all interesting in the day, Flew. I found it interesting already.
Speaker 2: Thank you, helly bye bye. Dennis from Maruba has sent
Speaker 2: me an email morning. Dennis says, I think Lee mack
Speaker 2: of would I lie to you and others as the
Speaker 2: fastest comedian marine on the planet on your mic? Yeah,
Speaker 2: thank you Dennis. He is. He's very good and the
Speaker 2: guy that leads the opposing teams. I saw him doing
Speaker 2: an acting job the other day and he's quite different.
Speaker 2: But they're both very good. But Lee Mack's hosting something else,
Speaker 2: isn't he And he also does acting work as well,
Speaker 2: So it's interesting to me that he can be an
Speaker 2: actor and also apparently ad lib the way he does. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I like to watch that show. I think it's very
Speaker 2: impressive with what they did. Steve from Capalaba says Mike.
Speaker 2: I think Albow will squirm in the gray area of ambiguity,
Speaker 2: the gray area of ambiguity, as long as he can.
Speaker 2: But Trump's in office for the next four years and
Speaker 2: Albow can't hide that long. The US must be losing
Speaker 2: patients with Australia being on the wrong side of their
Speaker 2: foreign policy in Western values. I think Orcus is in
Speaker 2: dire straits, says Steve, and our failure to be a
Speaker 2: reliable ally has not gone unnoticed. We're on thin ice,
Speaker 2: That's how Steve sees it. Now. I actually found an
Speaker 2: opposing view here. Oh yeah, here we go. Maria says, well, Mike,
Speaker 2: you can thank the genocidal state of Israel for reigniting
Speaker 2: this all over again, same playbook as before, just like
Speaker 2: with Iraq and the fabricated WMDs that led to a
Speaker 2: forever war where so many people like their lives. What
Speaker 2: a terrible mistake, says Maria. Anyway, if you've got a view,
Speaker 2: you're welcome to put it. You can give me a
Speaker 2: ring or send me a text. Now we decided to
Speaker 2: go to Chris from laylog. Good morning Chris.
Speaker 6: Hi.
Speaker 15: Yeah, Mike, Tucker Carson, who gives you I'm here his
Speaker 15: name coming.
Speaker 9: Up a lot.
Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson, you've never seen. He was the big drawer
Speaker 2: card on Fox, had enormous viewership, enormous ratings. But there
Speaker 2: are various stories about why they gave him the sack.
Speaker 2: There were stories about him going as part of a
Speaker 2: settlement to somebody who sued them for millions or billions
Speaker 2: or whatever it was. But anyway, it was an interesting story,
Speaker 2: particularly with normal American values, because the guy did have
Speaker 2: such big viewership. But he's gone, but he's still in
Speaker 2: demand to make comment and I think he runs a
Speaker 2: podcast something that he was out. He was out here
Speaker 2: in this country. I didn't see him. Midell Tommy, he
Speaker 2: went to see him.
Speaker 15: Look, he's like most of the others over on American media.
Speaker 15: I've got no time for them. I think they're just
Speaker 15: heightened spinner fake news. And the big one was that
Speaker 15: one who who came over here with a plane with
Speaker 15: full of her supporters. Look, I really don't have time
Speaker 15: for these people. I don't think they contribute anything other
Speaker 15: than the entertainment. And in regards to what your previous
Speaker 15: call of thought said about what's happened now, I don't
Speaker 15: think it's going to be the same as what happened
Speaker 15: in Iraq or in Afghanistan.
Speaker 2: But look, what do you think is going to happen? Chris?
Speaker 2: What do you what do you foresee?
Speaker 15: I leave that for a bit later maybe, But look.
Speaker 2: Chris, Chris, Chris, you're going to have to we've had
Speaker 2: this discussion. You need to finish your sentences and make
Speaker 2: it clear what you're talking about, because you have this
Speaker 2: but of saying what about so and so? You raised
Speaker 2: the idea, but then you don't go through with whatever
Speaker 2: it is that makes you as bad as well some
Speaker 2: of the politicians.
Speaker 15: I can go through with whatever I say if someone
Speaker 15: wants me to go back on to that, all right,
Speaker 15: So that's not an issue. Look, I've got a couple
Speaker 15: of points.
Speaker 3: Mate.
Speaker 2: You just did it again.
Speaker 15: I'm not going to have the time to go through everything,
Speaker 15: and it's a bit frustrating trying to say what I
Speaker 15: want to say and make my points learn. But look,
Speaker 15: I'll give it another shot of you. Now, I think
Speaker 15: that I heard what a previous call has said about
Speaker 15: that general. He gave a fairy detailed explanation for all
Speaker 15: that was said during the day from the rest of
Speaker 15: the news media. There was nothing there but what the
Speaker 15: general said. He got into it and gave a description
Speaker 15: of how it happened. But they basically they got in there,
Speaker 15: they bombed the place before Iran knew what was happening.
Speaker 15: Was pretty good. Now, what I also heard was you
Speaker 15: made some mention of Andrew Hasty. Yes, I'm just wondering
Speaker 15: how did Heckler know what he was going to talk
Speaker 15: about to heckle him? How would you know where he
Speaker 15: was and what he was going to I'm just wondering
Speaker 15: whether she'd been set up by label, she's paid by labor,
Speaker 15: anything going passed him. What do you reckon?
Speaker 2: Well, that hadn't occurred to me. I just thought that
Speaker 2: she was somebody who turned up at the meeting. I
Speaker 2: don't know how she heard about it, what she was expecting.
Speaker 2: You thought she was a labor stooge. Do you think
Speaker 2: she was that organized?
Speaker 15: I don't know. I knew what she was saying. She
Speaker 15: was interrupting what Andrew was saying. And you Hasten made
Speaker 15: a bit more political experience to handle these people, to
Speaker 15: talk to many interviews. I wanted to hear the questions
Speaker 15: from the media because I feel the media today in
Speaker 15: Australia a week but I couldn't hear the question because
Speaker 15: I have that woman, you know, yeah, yeah, over the
Speaker 15: top of them. And I did hear Andrew Hasty's response,
Speaker 15: But to me, I don't think. I don't have an
Speaker 15: issue with what he said. I don't have an issue
Speaker 15: with what Susan Lee said. What I have an issue
Speaker 15: with is what Alba and Juan didn't say. Okay, they've
Speaker 15: avoided saying anything about this for some reason, but well
Speaker 15: I know the reason. I just suspect I know the reason.
Speaker 15: But to me, you who are with He says that
Speaker 15: Alba doesn't even know what urr an ally is. He
Speaker 15: talks about it, but he doesn't understand it. I think
Speaker 15: he's been indoculated too much by by the Communist Party.
Speaker 15: But look to me for someone who's spent a lifetime
Speaker 15: in politics. I'm saying this openly now. Albat is such
Speaker 15: a fool. He doesn't know what he's talking about. He's
Speaker 15: never got to feel good to say about about America.
Speaker 15: But he's trying to hide that, and I don't like it.
Speaker 15: Just come out straight who you are, what you are,
Speaker 15: what you want to say, and get it out there.
Speaker 2: Yes, that'd be good. Yes, if only people would do that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you get to the point, follow through on what they say. Yes, No,
Speaker 2: that'd be great. I agree. All right, Chris. Thanks. Let
Speaker 2: me talk to Jack from Campbelltown Morning Jack.
Speaker 8: Mike, Yeah, what are you working about that?
Speaker 3: I an thing?
Speaker 8: Does that not? Remember? You are the weapons of mass destructions?
Speaker 2: You know you think it's like that.
Speaker 8: Well, don't you think so? You're an intelligent guy.
Speaker 2: I honestly, I honestly don't know. But I can only
Speaker 2: go on you know, what's available to everybody else. I
Speaker 2: don't have any special insight. As I said, I'm curious
Speaker 2: about whether it was as effective as Trump says it was.
Speaker 2: A lot of people think it was the right thing
Speaker 2: to do. Other people don't think it was. They're like you,
Speaker 2: they say, what about weapons of mass destruction.
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, I mean there are no effects. You know
Speaker 8: that I that I had the atomic bomb, were working
Speaker 8: on it the same thing like before. You know, it's
Speaker 8: all of a peat like history repeats themselves.
Speaker 2: Well not entirely. I mean somebody on my screens making
Speaker 2: a point which I've already read that apparently to use
Speaker 2: nuclear power for peaceful means you only need to enrich
Speaker 2: whatever you're using to three percent, whereas they enriched it
Speaker 2: to sixty percent. So they're getting pretty close to bomb stag.
Speaker 8: I know that might Now this bump which I used,
Speaker 8: I used it in Afghanistan. Don't you remember that there
Speaker 8: was bombing you know, the Talibans.
Speaker 2: The bunker buster. Oh yeah, yeah, yes, it got somebody
Speaker 2: in their hiding place, didn't I remember that? Yeah?
Speaker 8: Yeah, Well there's the caves of the Taliban to see,
Speaker 8: it's all of the teath. Now, look, what would you
Speaker 8: say if India, by examples, but invade Australia and the
Speaker 8: exclus with the only living space for their people, who
Speaker 8: they got millions of Indians there. So that there is
Speaker 8: a law, Okay, I have to obey the law, you know,
Speaker 8: international law. They can't simply invade countries so bombs law.
Speaker 2: Will you say that they've done it? And you know
Speaker 2: the international law seems to be as weak as as
Speaker 2: for Indians invading Australia. I mean they've they've already got
Speaker 2: quite a few of them over here. And now Jack,
Speaker 2: no question. Listen. I appreciate your call, but I'm going
Speaker 2: to have to go. But thank you for ringing. Good night,
Speaker 2: bye bye, good morning. We will have some news for
Speaker 2: you in twenty eight seconds. What can I read, Sue says,
Speaker 2: I might. Albo and Wong have never liked Israel and
Speaker 2: have always supported Palestine. Not surprised Albo will not back
Speaker 2: to the US, as he would be upsetting his voters,
Speaker 2: says Sue. Back to politics are always locals.
Speaker 1: Now on two GB for BC and network stations. Go
Speaker 1: back to our straight here overnight we'll find Jeffries.
Speaker 2: Yes, good morning. See here's a comment. If a ran
Speaker 2: nuclear ambition Irans, I guess that you'd read nuclear ambitions
Speaker 2: are peaceful. Why has it enriched uranium to sixty percent
Speaker 2: when it only needs to be three percent for peaceful purposes?
Speaker 2: As I mentioned, Why and this is something I didn't mention.
Speaker 2: That's a good point. Why does it have an Enrichmond
Speaker 2: facility under a mountain if it has nothing to hide. Yes,
Speaker 2: I think that's a courgent comment, because it'll be a
Speaker 2: lot cheaper to just have it in the building up top,
Speaker 2: wouldn't it. Ian on something different, says hey Luke. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: Luke does weekends these days? Possible topic news dot com
Speaker 2: dot Au photographer Dominic O'Brien assaulted and has died in Footscraye,
Speaker 2: allegedly by a man arrest did as part of a
Speaker 2: group of two hundred immigration detainees released from long term
Speaker 2: detention by the High Court. Regards Ian. Yes, look, I
Speaker 2: did see that story. With our system, I guess you
Speaker 2: would know. There's a limited amount of comment that we
Speaker 2: can allow on it. Otherwise we'll have some embarraster standing
Speaker 2: up saying that we compromised his clients right to a
Speaker 2: fair trial. But yeah, guy was wearing an ankle bracelet
Speaker 2: for all the good it did apparently allegedly. Anyway, we
Speaker 2: can talk about that more when it goes to court. Beverly,
Speaker 2: says Halimich. As I listened stunned at the complex planning
Speaker 2: and execution of the massive strike on the dangerous around
Speaker 2: nuclear sites. I felt so embarrassed by the pathetic response
Speaker 2: of our government and thought, thank god, the US is
Speaker 2: on our side regards BEV. Yes, they are on our side.
Speaker 2: Let's hope that they're one hundred and ten percent on
Speaker 2: our side. Kim's called in from Brisbane. Good morning, Kim.
Speaker 16: Yeah, Mike, I just worry about will the US continued
Speaker 16: to be on our side with Albow in charge. I
Speaker 16: don't know who would have breathed a bigger sigh of
Speaker 16: relief when they didn't meet each other. Would have been
Speaker 16: Albow or Trump? Because Trump obviously is so disgusted in
Speaker 16: alban Easy. He's on video with a microphone running down
Speaker 16: Goom parton me Donald Trump and totally humiliating Donald Trump.
Speaker 16: I mean, he just acted embarrassing like a child will.
Speaker 2: Childlike maybe that's his appeal.
Speaker 16: Do you think there's no appeal? I just shake my
Speaker 16: head when you or someone else says he's appealing. No, No,
Speaker 16: I don't think so. Well, not on any level.
Speaker 2: Well, a lot of people preferred him to the Oppositions
Speaker 2: front man.
Speaker 16: Well, when you talk about a lot of people, I didn't.
Speaker 16: It's a fact that the Labor Party got in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't.
Speaker 16: Part of me on thirty three percent.
Speaker 2: Of the vote thirty four in a bit.
Speaker 16: Sorry, okay, thirty four percent. So either we've got a
Speaker 16: very bad voting system, yeah, or or it's reagd allegedly
Speaker 16: it's reaked.
Speaker 2: Well it's not. It's not rigged. Rig but the smarties
Speaker 2: know how to play the system, how to play the
Speaker 2: preferential system.
Speaker 16: Yeah, And it's not right. And these independents never stay independent.
Speaker 16: They will suck up to the one they want to
Speaker 16: give their vote to.
Speaker 2: Or on the other hand, we have people getting elected
Speaker 2: on a party platform and then they say, guess what,
Speaker 2: I don't believe in what they have to offer anymore,
Speaker 2: but I still want to stay in parliament for another
Speaker 2: few years, thank you exactly.
Speaker 16: They ride on the backs of particular parties and once
Speaker 16: they get in they they do whatever they want to
Speaker 16: do it. Yes, can I just agree with Helen from
Speaker 16: Kabulta and everything she had to say about albans in
Speaker 16: how weak he is. That's why I do think we're
Speaker 16: on pretty shaky ground. And I don't think particularly wants
Speaker 16: to meet alban Easy face to face and waste his
Speaker 16: time with him, and he.
Speaker 2: Doesn't seem to be going out of his way to do.
Speaker 16: It, does he No, An Alban Easy would rather probably
Speaker 16: not meet him. I just don't know why they can't
Speaker 16: just have a link up if there is to be
Speaker 16: a meeting.
Speaker 2: Well, they have spoken on the phone, haven't they.
Speaker 16: But I'm talking about a face to face link up
Speaker 16: with you can do it on computers.
Speaker 2: Well, that's right. A zoom meeting, yes, a.
Speaker 16: Zoom meeting, yes, you can have one of them.
Speaker 17: Yeah.
Speaker 16: And just with the attacks the what happened in Iran,
Speaker 16: was there any civilians that were killed, Mike, I think.
Speaker 2: There would be. I think there were. Look, I don't
Speaker 2: know the numbers. I haven't seen any numbers on that,
Speaker 2: but I guess there would have been here.
Speaker 16: Yes, yes, I don't think I've mentioned that, But correct
Speaker 16: me if I'm wrong, and I possibly could be that.
Speaker 16: Hasn't Iran been saying for years and years they plan
Speaker 16: on they have nuclear weapons to bomb the United States?
Speaker 2: Well, I think some of them have been saying, you know,
Speaker 2: they have to rid the world of the unbelievers or
Speaker 2: what's that effect, because they are the extremest end of
Speaker 2: that particular what you always say, religion, thought process culture. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so they think like that and they have done since
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy nine when the iotolerance his crowd got in.
Speaker 2: And of course that's an interesting part of the whole business.
Speaker 2: How many people in Iran do want regime change, And
Speaker 2: of course it's been pointed out, I've been watching this
Speaker 2: all afternoon, how very brutal the present regime is if
Speaker 2: anybody tries to go against what the government tells them
Speaker 2: that they must do. So. As far as the nuclear weapons, look,
Speaker 2: I'm inclined to think that I did mention it earlier
Speaker 2: that their view is they would use nuclear weapons if
Speaker 2: they could, even if it meant they wiped themselves out,
Speaker 2: because it's that, you know, death cult side of that
Speaker 2: particular school of thought.
Speaker 16: Yeah, but in saying that, I agree with you, Mike
Speaker 16: insime that also, I think it's damn shame that these
Speaker 16: people in charge of countries can't make the oshe and
Speaker 16: talk rather than just think let's have a war.
Speaker 2: Oh, we all think that, But then what are you
Speaker 2: going to do? You know, if they start invading. It's
Speaker 2: a bit late for talk, then, isn't it.
Speaker 16: Yeah, that's side of it too.
Speaker 2: See Subridge, is there saying you can't bomb your way
Speaker 2: to peace. Actually, mister subridge. That wasn't the lesson from
Speaker 2: World War Two, as I recall, it was the bombing
Speaker 2: that brought about the end of it. It finally persuade well,
Speaker 2: not all the Japanese, but the Japanese in charge said
Speaker 2: it's over. But there were isolated areas where some of
Speaker 2: the Japanese kept on fighting.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 16: Well, can I just say, reminds me of a friend.
Speaker 16: She has since passed away. She'd be about partly about
Speaker 16: ninety two now. She was still alive. She was a
Speaker 16: prisoner of war. She was from Holland, and her and
Speaker 16: a family were a prisoner of war that had gone
Speaker 16: to Indonesia because her father.
Speaker 8: Had worked there.
Speaker 16: But they were caught as prisoners by the Japanese. And
Speaker 16: I remember when I met her about thirty years ago,
Speaker 16: she said to me it was a good thing that
Speaker 16: Japan bombed Hawaii because that's when the Americans stepped in
Speaker 16: and it was the Americans that saved her and a family.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes, well there are lots of stories about how
Speaker 2: that all happened too, but I can understand her thinking
Speaker 2: that way. All right, Kim, thanks for calling you bye.
Speaker 2: Maria has called in from West Bride. Good morning, Maria, Oh,
Speaker 2: good morning.
Speaker 12: I'm going to try and maintain some try and remain
Speaker 12: a little bit calm, but I'm feeling extremely frustrated listening
Speaker 12: to the callers, and I'm glad that, you know, I'm
Speaker 12: hearing some stuff that a lot of Australians believe is
Speaker 12: the case. But I do really want to say this
Speaker 12: that what happened with that bombing, I just want to
Speaker 12: say that that was completely illegal.
Speaker 8: It was a.
Speaker 12: Violation of international law. It was a violation of the
Speaker 12: Yun Charter, it was a violation of the Non Proliferation
Speaker 12: Treaty and a violation of the US Constitution, which does
Speaker 12: not give Trump the right to start a war without
Speaker 12: congressional approval. I mean, what is going on?
Speaker 2: Do you see Trump starting this one? Do you think
Speaker 2: Trump started a war here?
Speaker 12: I believe Trump is definitely know what I believe is Israeli.
Speaker 12: Israel is trying and has managed successfully to pull him
Speaker 12: in and has absolutely pulled him in as he has
Speaker 12: done before with the Iraq war, with the Afghanistan war.
Speaker 12: This is all a plan. I just want to see
Speaker 12: what you think about that, because you're I really respect
Speaker 12: you on this talk back.
Speaker 18: Channel.
Speaker 12: So I want to hear what you think about that.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I suppose I could address a piece by piece.
Speaker 2: But if you're looking at the big picture, which is
Speaker 2: I think what you're getting to did Trump do the
Speaker 2: right thing? You can take a position that it was
Speaker 2: right to do what he did to forestall what Iran
Speaker 2: might have been up to. But then, of course you
Speaker 2: go back to the weapons of mass destruction. What I
Speaker 2: would like to know, before totally involving myself in your argument,
Speaker 2: is exactly what happened. Did he wipe out what was
Speaker 2: the main one for it? Out right? Did he totally
Speaker 2: wipe out the main nuclear installation? I'm just curious to
Speaker 2: find out more than that. I'm going to talk by
Speaker 2: the way, I'm going to talk to a straight you know,
Speaker 2: I mean when I say straight journal I mean a journalist,
Speaker 2: not a commentator. I'm going to talk to a journalist
Speaker 2: later in the morning, because by then we might have
Speaker 2: learned some more and I'll be interested to see what
Speaker 2: he has to say about it. But to find out
Speaker 2: exactly the result of this is going to be pretty tricky,
Speaker 2: isn't it, Because who's going to tell us the absolute truth?
Speaker 12: You're right, I hear that but what is going on?
Speaker 12: I mean, America is our ally, what is going on
Speaker 12: with all this illegal stuff that Trump is doing? I mean,
Speaker 12: what is he thinking? What credibility does this man have anymore?
Speaker 12: And I also want to say, Israel is also the
Speaker 12: holder of nuclear weapons, illegally has weapons. They don't want
Speaker 12: to be checked by agencies. They don't want to be
Speaker 12: checked by the IAEA. They don't want to be checked
Speaker 12: by any of those agencies.
Speaker 5: But Iran has.
Speaker 12: Has has gone through all the checks and has so
Speaker 12: far abided by what is the I don't know how
Speaker 12: they word it, but has passed the checks. This is
Speaker 12: Israel feeling they just want to pull the US in here.
Speaker 12: And I just don't understand why people don't understand that.
Speaker 12: I just don't get it. Iran and they. And the
Speaker 12: other thing is Iran is the only country that has
Speaker 12: some power to support the Palestinian cause. Cause that's going on,
Speaker 12: and I feel so angry and upset about it. Okay,
Speaker 12: but I just have to say that's all indeed.
Speaker 2: But see what you're saying. I fancy myself as a
Speaker 2: pragmatist right now. I think the UN is as weak
Speaker 2: as I can give you examples going way back. So ultimately,
Speaker 2: what does it come down to? You know, it's money
Speaker 2: and guns rule world. That's what book Dylan said, and
Speaker 2: I think that's probably correct as far as Israel is concerned.
Speaker 2: Their view, it's pretty obvious, I think, is if we
Speaker 2: don't wipe them out, they'll only get you know, they'll
Speaker 2: take time out and they'll come back and they'll do
Speaker 2: it all again, because it's unlikely to be ever settled.
Speaker 2: So what do you say about that? I mean, what's
Speaker 2: the alternative here?
Speaker 12: But there's no evidence that they're going to wipe anybody out.
Speaker 12: What I can see them wiping people out, That's what
Speaker 12: I can see. No, that's what I keep seeing on
Speaker 12: the TV, on my social media streams. There's a genocide
Speaker 12: going on over there. Does anybody know or care about that?
Speaker 18: Well, I mean I just don't get it.
Speaker 2: Look, you know, as I say, I'm interested in what
Speaker 2: people have to say. But I can just hear people
Speaker 2: now getting ready to say, well, if they wanted to
Speaker 2: take the temperature down a bit, why not return the hostages?
Speaker 12: Okay, this is Look, Mike, I don't believe this is
Speaker 12: about the hostages. Honestly, I believe that they have so
Speaker 12: such precision that they were able to go and wipe
Speaker 12: out those scientists and the government in Iran precition precision targeting.
Speaker 12: And you're telling me they can't find their hostages in
Speaker 12: power style. I mean, that's the best intelligence in the world.
Speaker 2: What do you think they could get the Israelis could
Speaker 2: get the hostages back if they really wanted to.
Speaker 12: Well, the intelligence they have is the best in the world.
Speaker 2: Okay. There's a couple of people commenting about you, but anyway, okay.
Speaker 12: And that's fine, and I'm expecting, but I just want
Speaker 12: to bring another side of the narrative. I'm hearing one
Speaker 12: side and I just want to put my side across.
Speaker 2: I think doing that listening, Yeah all right, but I'm
Speaker 2: just saying I think you had a pretty good girl
Speaker 2: putting your side across, don't you.
Speaker 12: I do? And thank you.
Speaker 2: Okay, I just need to check that out.
Speaker 12: And also just one other thing, Benjamin Nett and Yahoo
Speaker 12: Is has been charged with war crimes by the International
Speaker 12: Criminal Court, and I just want to put that out
Speaker 12: there as well.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Maria. Bye. Chris has called in
Speaker 2: from lily Field. Hello, Chris, good.
Speaker 4: Morning, sir. I am just staggered, and unfortunately, at my age,
Speaker 4: that's not a good idea.
Speaker 2: You're not terminally staggered, are you, Chris?
Speaker 15: No?
Speaker 4: Thank good? No, I stagger around it because break my
Speaker 4: neck in the back and all sorts of body that.
Speaker 2: Oh god, that's just.
Speaker 4: One of the things that you deal with when you
Speaker 4: get older and climb ladders. Anyway, I'm just staggered at
Speaker 4: the number of people who don't seem to have read
Speaker 4: or understand history at all. And we're hearing some of
Speaker 4: these people on the radio unfortunately, and what I just
Speaker 4: heard just very recently has so many untruths in it
Speaker 4: that you start to wonder about the sanity. And then
Speaker 4: you wait a minute, how did Albanezy get elected? Oh
Speaker 4: that's right. A certain gentleman who is under his control
Speaker 4: went zooming around the country just before the election, enrolling
Speaker 4: people to vote all across our country, spending my money,
Speaker 4: my tax money, flying all over the place saying look, guys,
Speaker 4: you can vote now. Look here, I'm going to enroll
Speaker 4: you as an Australian. That's probably half of where they
Speaker 4: got that vote. Wonder that happened. Anybody with any excell
Speaker 4: sense and any IQ above thirty would start to understand
Speaker 4: that the Albanezi government is not out for anybody but
Speaker 4: the people who want their hand out to be given
Speaker 4: something for free, which means it costs the rest of
Speaker 4: us something because we've got to give them our things.
Speaker 4: That's bad enough. Now, if we go back to history,
Speaker 4: I have been involved with people who understand the background
Speaker 4: and who have voted to help with money to keep
Speaker 4: Israel going since nineteen forty eight when it started. And
Speaker 4: at that time there were no Palestinians there. The Palestinians
Speaker 4: have not lived there before because it was a bloody desert.
Speaker 4: They did nothing to make anything any better. The Jewish
Speaker 4: people came in on that particular chunk of land that
Speaker 4: they were available to be given, and at that time
Speaker 4: they said, we're going to do something with this country.
Speaker 4: We're not just going to sit here in the desert
Speaker 4: and thank the Lord that we've been given this plot
Speaker 4: of land. Now they've been there now for thousands of years,
Speaker 4: it's not just recently, and so if you go back
Speaker 4: in history you'll find that this is true. And secondly,
Speaker 4: they said, well, all right, if we've got to live here,
Speaker 4: and it's a fairly sparse sort of stuff, we've got here,
Speaker 4: why don't we make something of it, which they did,
Speaker 4: and they've also helped the people who have come towards
Speaker 4: that region, knowing that there is something good called Israel
Speaker 4: just up over there on the border which is now
Speaker 4: a border, but it wasn't then, and they'd said, okay,
Speaker 4: well we'll join them, and a lot of Palestinians live
Speaker 4: quite comfortably as Moslims in amongst the Jewish people. But
Speaker 4: there are others who said no. And then Iran. Of course,
Speaker 4: I was in America at the time when Iran took
Speaker 4: hostages out of the American embassy and threatened to kill
Speaker 4: them all. Right then and there.
Speaker 2: There was during Carter's time, wasn't it.
Speaker 4: That's exactly right. Jimmy Carter said, well, what the hell
Speaker 4: are we going to do? And he went once and failed.
Speaker 4: Then he said, we're going to have to get the
Speaker 4: military to go in there and take things out and
Speaker 4: take over to try to get our people back, which
Speaker 4: he did successfully. Now that man who was just installed
Speaker 4: in nineteen seven, By the.
Speaker 2: Way, just on that score, didn't people at the time
Speaker 2: say it was the threat of Reagan coming in that
Speaker 2: made them finally decide to play ball.
Speaker 4: Yes, And what's more, Reagan got tougher than that with
Speaker 4: the Russians. I don't know whether you remember that, but
Speaker 4: Reagan said, essentially to the Russians, look, if you don't
Speaker 4: back off, I'm going to put something up there in
Speaker 4: the sky that's going to come over you, and you're
Speaker 4: risk losing every bloody thing you've got. And sure enough,
Speaker 4: the Russians said, hmm, is he true? Is he real?
Speaker 4: What do we know? What do we know? Well?
Speaker 2: I think the difference was they believed that Reagan would
Speaker 2: do what he said, whereas with Carter they figured Carda wouldn't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. Carter was so weak, and they thought, well, gosh,
Speaker 4: if they change and this guy gets to be tougher
Speaker 4: and we can't block him the way we did Carter,
Speaker 4: maybe we're in for a problem. So I thought, I
Speaker 4: really thought that Reagan did a great deal of good
Speaker 4: for the country. The country was running down and it
Speaker 4: had it had miles of stores of stuff that people
Speaker 4: couldn't buy, and Reagan came in and said, enough of
Speaker 4: this storing stuff. We've got to get rid of all
Speaker 4: this rubbish and stop producing so much that we can't
Speaker 4: sell it all. Tomorrow. We need everything going from day
Speaker 4: to day to day to day, and we just keep
Speaker 4: on rolling along. And sure enough, the economy boomed while
Speaker 4: he was there, and all of us looked at it
Speaker 4: and said, really, this is guy just this has got
Speaker 4: the film start.
Speaker 7: What is he?
Speaker 4: What does he know that he did? Anyway, then we
Speaker 4: get back to now and where the uh, this country
Speaker 4: called Iran is now being looked at and has been
Speaker 4: for all that time since Jimmy Carter. It's been looked
Speaker 4: at as a country which wants to wage war on
Speaker 4: the Israelis and on anyone who is white and anybody
Speaker 4: who is not of their religion.
Speaker 2: The believers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the leader I'm sorry about, Yes, the Iyotolah. And
Speaker 4: unfortunately his theories and massacres, by the way, are not
Speaker 4: exactly unknown. He is very very strong in his wishes
Speaker 4: and desires and that they be kept. Oh, yes, and
Speaker 4: that's happening today.
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, so people who talk about regime change say
Speaker 2: that's all very well, but the regime is so brutal
Speaker 2: with anybody who there is showing any sign of being
Speaker 2: opposed to them, that I don't know what the regime
Speaker 2: change is going to happen. But then I guess nobody
Speaker 2: does at this stage.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I guess we're going to.
Speaker 2: I guess we are all right. Well, thank you, Chris,
Speaker 2: Bye bye bye. Take it easy. Let me see, let's
Speaker 2: go to Steve from Cairn this morning. Steve, Good morning, Mike.
Speaker 19: I listened to a caller a minute ago, and I
Speaker 19: want to congratulate you on having Men's A members ringing
Speaker 19: you at one o'clock in the morning. Someone to say
Speaker 19: that they're fully conversant with the American constitution and they
Speaker 19: know that what America did was illegal under their constitution.
Speaker 2: But it's not just them saying it. I mean that's
Speaker 2: out there in the mainstream as well. People who are
Speaker 2: supposedly in positions of authority are saying it.
Speaker 19: Oh I really, I thought this person was actually a
Speaker 19: judge of the International Court of Justice masquerading at someone
Speaker 19: from north right.
Speaker 2: Oh, I see, I was shocked. Does that happen? Okay?
Speaker 19: Can I just ask you a question. When I grew up,
Speaker 19: we refer to nuclear weapons as adam bomb. So when
Speaker 19: did they transition to not being called Adam bombs anymore
Speaker 19: and being called nuclear weapons?
Speaker 2: I don't know. And also there's the hydrogen bomb too,
Speaker 2: that that's snuck in there. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 2: with these language things, I suppose I could ask Cal Richards,
Speaker 2: he studies language. But yeah, Adam, bomb's maybe nuclear sounded
Speaker 2: less threatening when you talked about using it for peaceful purposes.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. But now it's as threatening as ever,
Speaker 2: I guess. Yeah.
Speaker 19: Well, yeah, a nuclear weapon in an atom bomb, and
Speaker 19: he's threatening. And if someone's trying to build one, whoever
Speaker 19: wants to take it out, good on. It might support
Speaker 19: that person, right, you know, I think what Trump did
Speaker 19: was probably save the world from a lot of problems.
Speaker 2: Well a lot of people, of course that you know,
Speaker 2: what he did there is what was necessary in the
Speaker 2: interests of the Western world. Yes, it's not only the
Speaker 2: Western world.
Speaker 19: Name the Arab country that stood up and said how dairy?
Speaker 19: Not too many, how I'm talking against it?
Speaker 9: They very very few.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's the point. That's the point.
Speaker 19: Yes, And they're not members of the Western world, are they?
Speaker 19: And not even Pakistan.
Speaker 2: Pakistan wants to give them a Nobel prize, don't they.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 19: Well, you know, I think you'll find, you know, quietly,
Speaker 19: behind the scenes, a lot of countries are saying, good
Speaker 19: on you're Donald, you know, well done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right.
Speaker 19: There's not too many people cheering on the mad mullers
Speaker 19: of what you run, are they?
Speaker 2: But the ones there are, you know, they're pretty determined
Speaker 2: and devoted. Or maybe it's maybe it's just in their
Speaker 2: short term interests to be that way.
Speaker 19: Well, you know, in Reagan's days, Mad used to me
Speaker 19: refer to as mutually assured destruction. That's right, Well, that's
Speaker 19: the way where the mad mulla comes from.
Speaker 2: Yes, but I don't know. I mean I've alluded to
Speaker 2: this a couple of times this morning. I don't know
Speaker 2: if the mutually assured destruction would stop the eye at Toller,
Speaker 2: would it? No, No, it wouldn't. Yeah, a thank you,
Speaker 2: todeve Thanke. You see, why do they call it a
Speaker 2: nuclear weapon? Okay, this is what we found. The terminology
Speaker 2: has evolved for a more accurate and comprehensive description of
Speaker 2: these weapons. Here's why nuclear weapons is now the preferred
Speaker 2: term broader scope. The therm atomic bomb or a bomb
Speaker 2: specifically refers to weapons that derive their explosive force solely
Speaker 2: from nuclear fission reactions. These are the types of bombs
Speaker 2: dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki inclusion of fusion weapons. After
Speaker 2: World War II, the development of hydrogen bombs or h
Speaker 2: bombs significantly changed the landscape of nuclear armaments. These weapons,
Speaker 2: also known as thermonuclear weapons, utilize both nuclear fissions to
Speaker 2: initiate the reaction, and nuclear fusion, which releases far more
Speaker 2: energy nuclear encompasses both. The term nuclear weapon is more
Speaker 2: general and accurate umbrella term that covers both fission atomic
Speaker 2: bombs and fission fusion thermonuclear hydrogen bombs, as they all
Speaker 2: harness the immense energy released from the nucleus of an atom.
Speaker 2: In essence, atomic bomb describes a specific type of nuclear weapon,
Speaker 2: while nuclear weapon is the broader category that includes all
Speaker 2: devices relying on nuclear reactions fission, fusion, or combination for
Speaker 2: their destructive power. There you go, There you go. Kell
Speaker 2: Eat your heart out. What about? Neutron bomb? Also known
Speaker 2: as enhanced radiation weapon ERW, was developed but ultimately retired
Speaker 2: by the US. While initially intended for battlefield use, concerns
Speaker 2: about its tactical effectiveness and the potential to lower the
Speaker 2: threshold for nuclear conflict led to its discontinua. Production of
Speaker 2: these weapons ceased in the nineteen eighties, and the warheads
Speaker 2: were eventually withdrawn and dismantled. The neutron bomb type of
Speaker 2: thermonuclear weapons designed to maximize the release of neutron radiation
Speaker 2: while minimizing blast and heat effects is so remember them
Speaker 2: talking about it, and I think the idea was you
Speaker 2: could kill the soldiers without destroying the buildings. M joy,
Speaker 2: thank you for the kind words, Susan says, Chris is
Speaker 2: always a voice of reason. Thank goodness. And then there's
Speaker 2: two emojis, a thumbs up and a smiley. I think
Speaker 2: that's right, those smiling emojis. Sometimes they're laughing at you.
Speaker 2: Think about text. You don't always get the tone, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, are you being literal or ironic? It's harder
Speaker 2: to tell with emojis, or for me, I'm not really
Speaker 2: that conversant with emogis. Maybe maybe I'm missing some nuance here.
Speaker 2: Let me talk to Nicole from Rockhampton. Good morning, Nicole,
Speaker 2: Good morning.
Speaker 18: I can't believe I'm listening at one point thirty in
Speaker 18: the morning, and I'm just what.
Speaker 2: Would you what would you else? What else would you
Speaker 2: be doing at this hour of the morning. I'm shocked.
Speaker 18: Oh, probably sleeping, but I've been following this for some
Speaker 18: time now and listening to Maria from North Ride in
Speaker 18: relation to Palestine, and has she not heard of David
Speaker 18: in golife. Go back in history. Let's go back in history.
Speaker 18: There is no genocide happening in Palestine. Iran has funded
Speaker 18: terrorism all over the Middle East with proxy Hamas, Hezbollah,
Speaker 18: the hooties. They're the ones who are causing all the
Speaker 18: all the damage, you know, the poor people who were
Speaker 18: stolen from Israel and killed and raped and you know, murdered.
Speaker 18: We need to go back and realize where this all started.
Speaker 18: And then we have all these people in Sydney covering
Speaker 18: their faces, you know, praising terrorism. I just can't believe
Speaker 18: where this country is headed. It's just disgraceful.
Speaker 2: I think it's true that some of the people, particularly
Speaker 2: you need people, those kind of individuals really aren't the
Speaker 2: full bottle as they say on what they're actually supporting them.
Speaker 18: People should be more educated on this topic. They've just
Speaker 18: they listen to social media, they look at all the
Speaker 18: propaganda and they jump on their own bandwagons, but they
Speaker 18: don't really understand behind all of this. There's a reason
Speaker 18: this has been going on for centuries and just her
Speaker 18: other common in relation to around being compliant with the
Speaker 18: nuclear program. Absolutely not three decades. They've been doing this
Speaker 18: for and for three decades have been threatened to blow
Speaker 18: them up. But Trump had the guts to do it,
Speaker 18: and good on him. He may have saved the Western
Speaker 18: world because it's exactly what they were going to do
Speaker 18: was put nuclear arms strutting to Israel, wipe them off
Speaker 18: the face of the planet, and wipe every other Western
Speaker 18: country off the face to the planet. That was their
Speaker 18: threat all the time. So we need to be you know,
Speaker 18: we all want world peace. We all want world peace.
Speaker 2: But the way this.
Speaker 18: Country is so divided between you know, left ring right wing,
Speaker 18: why can't we always get along and be educated on
Speaker 18: topics before we jump on the radio and start shooting
Speaker 18: off misinformation. This is why we have so many young
Speaker 18: people on the streets protesting, and I don't know what
Speaker 18: they're protesting about. I have no idea. It just looks
Speaker 18: good at the time. So it's just very frustrating. And
Speaker 18: I do come from a background where I know what
Speaker 18: I'm talking about, which I won't disclose, but you know,
Speaker 18: I'm just really watching this unfold and it infuriates me.
Speaker 18: And good on Israel. You know they're resilient. They're so resilient,
Speaker 18: all right.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you going to Carl. Thank you for ringing in.
Speaker 16: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Welcome by Gary is from Brisbane. Good morning Gary, Oh,
Speaker 2: good morning.
Speaker 3: Mike.
Speaker 6: Chris is a very educated man. I used to work
Speaker 6: for a commandor who ended up becoming rear around them
Speaker 6: all and ended up being the Governor of New South Wales,
Speaker 6: Dave Martin. And he told me he was involved with
Speaker 6: the Monty Bellot tests and he's on the ship type
Speaker 6: of thing. I think he ended up dying in Messo
Speaker 6: Feenie Amia or a nice bloke. But the thing is
Speaker 6: Donald Trump has been very much aligned by the lefties
Speaker 6: in this country. He doesn't drink, he doesn't smoke, and
Speaker 6: they put the sword into him.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 6: I was talking to a mate of mine, I say,
Speaker 6: with mered Island, which overlooks who used to work at NASA,
Speaker 6: which overlooks Cape Ken of the Cape Canaveral and all
Speaker 6: that sort of stuff. I've been out to NASA and
Speaker 6: he told me when I was talking can more the news, Gary,
Speaker 6: that have set the stealth bobbers have to refilm because
Speaker 6: they're fully loaded and have to refilm in the air
Speaker 6: and land. And I spect the Benny on the aw
Speaker 6: and it's just having you know that. I said, well,
Speaker 6: I know it. Surely you must have the access to
Speaker 6: your screen there to say what's happening. And he couldn't
Speaker 6: answer me. You are yeah, I told him before. Then
Speaker 6: all of a sudden it's happened. But the major thing
Speaker 6: we got in this country is brainwashing in doctrination too
Speaker 6: much to the left. There's no set of thing anymore.
Speaker 6: Why lay father is.
Speaker 2: Not what anymore? Sentencing? Did you say what they do here?
Speaker 6: There's a lot of brainwashing indoctrination to the left. They
Speaker 6: don't most of them young people. You're probably the same
Speaker 6: as me, a baby boomer. You mentioned you were in
Speaker 6: Canberra when the Raiders got started obviously two I was
Speaker 6: a noble ticket old.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that I was there when they got
Speaker 2: started off. I was in Canberra though, from two thousand
Speaker 2: to about twenty eleven.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was there when I was Manari playing Ilwara
Speaker 6: and the writer has got style combination of Group eight
Speaker 6: in Group sixteen. I used to play for Group sixteen.
Speaker 2: You know, you know it's Manero.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Manero.
Speaker 2: Yes, because the Holden people gave me a review copy.
Speaker 2: You remember they brought back the Holden Monaro.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's correct.
Speaker 2: I used to drive around in that. People loved that card.
Speaker 2: It was a green one, so I was able to
Speaker 2: drive my Monaro in the Manero.
Speaker 6: It's funny here they've got different pronunciations of things.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: But the biggest problem we've got in this chat and
Speaker 6: our city before, I think our economy is going to collapse,
Speaker 6: which is on.
Speaker 2: The way to.
Speaker 6: Bailing Jim Charmers. He's going to do the old Robin
Speaker 6: Hood thing and start taxing.
Speaker 9: The rich to.
Speaker 6: I suppose get all these things. So you've got to
Speaker 6: cross the mind by.
Speaker 2: He's telling us he's texting the rich now. But of
Speaker 2: course much of what constitutes the rich now will only
Speaker 2: be the middle class by the time they get to
Speaker 2: retirement age. So in the long term, I think the
Speaker 2: Labor Party's made a mistake, because if there's going to
Speaker 2: be regime change, it always comes from the middle class.
Speaker 2: But anyway, you're at Trump supporter Gary, I've got.
Speaker 6: All the equipment. I've got so much Trump gear. I've
Speaker 6: got all his shirts, the dolls, you know, the bobble
Speaker 6: is everything.
Speaker 2: That's the way I'd be the number one.
Speaker 6: Supporter here in Maruka. But the whole thing is when
Speaker 6: you start offering up stuff to the uninitiated swal type
Speaker 6: of thing. For some of these all university students that
Speaker 6: have been promised they twenty rebate on the X seeds.
Speaker 6: And that's not a question for about sixteen billion dollars
Speaker 6: that US satisfiers have got to come do you.
Speaker 2: Think it'll come through? Do you think that, as the
Speaker 2: Prime Minister put it when he changed the taxes after
Speaker 2: promising not to do so in the previous election, that
Speaker 2: he had to make an intervention.
Speaker 6: Well, it's like the female prime minister said, there will
Speaker 6: be no carbon Jack Saunder and the government.
Speaker 2: Yes, I remember that. Gary. I gotta fly, but thank
Speaker 2: you for calling. Thank you bye. Robin Is from Penrith.
Speaker 2: Good morning, Robin, my Mike.
Speaker 20: I'm glad John. I really wish you're around every night.
Speaker 20: I just want to talk about Iran and then say
Speaker 20: something about Israel quickly. My GPS from Iran.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and her.
Speaker 20: Sister is a doctor too at the local hospital from Iran,
Speaker 20: both in their forties. And then if she's got a
Speaker 20: brother who's electorate one of the uniss. She got one
Speaker 20: brother back in Iran and her parents are out on
Speaker 20: twelve months Visit's supposed to go home next month, but
Speaker 20: they've got a protection visa for the time then. And
Speaker 20: she told me what goes on in that country, otherwise
Speaker 20: they'd probably back there is at so loosely astrocious what
Speaker 20: they do to the women, and how.
Speaker 13: That when they bond.
Speaker 20: The nuclear power stations there, her and the family were
Speaker 20: jumping up and down in the kitchen celebrating. They wish
Speaker 20: that they wish they hadn't got the Ayatola.
Speaker 2: Well, a lot of people think that way. But if
Speaker 2: if you show any signs of thinking that way with
Speaker 2: the Ayatola, what they do to you is so brutal,
Speaker 2: people are afraid to well show it.
Speaker 20: Yeah that's right over there. Ye, well she's You know
Speaker 20: that what they do to women. If you look at
Speaker 20: pictures forty seven years ago when the Shara Ferga rap
Speaker 20: Rain there and see the difference with the women and
Speaker 20: the women today, you know it's just a complete turnaround.
Speaker 20: They walk lovely and the Shara Persia. I seen him
Speaker 20: on Instagram and speaking from where he is in refuge.
Speaker 20: He said that Israel has always been a friend of
Speaker 20: around because it helped to build a temple, you know,
Speaker 20: back in the when King Cyrus was raining.
Speaker 2: I know, but they've got the religious extremism that comes
Speaker 2: from centuries ago. And what was the other point you
Speaker 2: wanted to make, I've just got to go.
Speaker 20: Oh, Israel. Yeah, Israel's got about nine and a half
Speaker 20: million people. There's one hundred million, one hundred million people
Speaker 20: Muslims in the world, Muslim countries surrounded, you know, the
Speaker 20: ones that surround it. When we were over there in
Speaker 20: Israel a few years ago. We've seen places there like
Speaker 20: restaurants where where they were blown off the map by
Speaker 20: country sending rockets. This was in two thousand and ten.
Speaker 20: And you know, they've getten rockets from Syria and different
Speaker 20: countries around them, and you know, it's just a tiny
Speaker 20: little country and it just got someone's got to stick
Speaker 20: up for, like America, Donald Trump. It's fantastic what he's doing.
Speaker 2: Robin. I gotta fly, But thank you for calling. That's okay, okay,
Speaker 2: see yea bye. We will have some news for you
Speaker 2: in forty six seconds. What can I read in that
Speaker 2: Julie says Homemach. Everyone seems to have forgotten the Palestinians
Speaker 2: started this round when they sent the rockets into Israel
Speaker 2: almost two years ago. That's what Julie from Queen Beean
Speaker 2: has to say, Judy, thank you for the kind words.
Speaker 2: But is it a good thing that you working up
Speaker 2: and can't go back to sleep? Thank you for the
Speaker 2: kind words. A Similarly, Wayne who also says Chris does
Speaker 2: go on a bit too much, although some people think
Speaker 2: he ought to be PM.
Speaker 1: Now on t gb BC and network stations. Back to
Speaker 1: our straightia overnight, we'd buy Jeffries good morning, welcome.
Speaker 2: Along, just joined us. Joe says, Hi, Mike, if there's
Speaker 2: such a thing as a hydrogen bomb, shouldn't we all
Speaker 2: be against hydrogen? She is Joe, No, I think we're
Speaker 2: only supposed to be against carbon dioxide. But there's no
Speaker 2: carbon dioxide bombs are they? To the best of my knowledge?
Speaker 2: But I think that that whole thing is waning, you know,
Speaker 2: except for our government who are going on with the
Speaker 2: ridiculous renewables thing, which is not going to work. Jeff
Speaker 2: Wicks from Ladley in Queensland says Mike. The likes of
Speaker 2: Maria from Ride are cut from the same cloth as
Speaker 2: the lefties that sabotage the musicians, the munitions and supplies
Speaker 2: being sent to the soldiers fighting in New Guinea during
Speaker 2: World War Two, says Jeff Wicks from Laidley in Queensland.
Speaker 2: Mix says, Hi, Mike, did you happen here on ben
Speaker 2: Fordham Show last week? The interview with the US energy
Speaker 2: expert that marks Australia's energy policy well worth a listen?
Speaker 2: I think it was last Thursday, says Mick and Melbourne. Yeah,
Speaker 2: thanks for that, Mick. I read about it and you
Speaker 2: know the policy if it really is a policy as
Speaker 2: well worth marketing. I well, I've said this so many
Speaker 2: times in the last whatever it's been fifteen years or so.
Speaker 2: I honestly do not understand the motivation for the way
Speaker 2: Albo and Chris Bowen are going, and I really do
Speaker 2: think it's something that's not being disclosed anyway. Joyce says
Speaker 2: that little Green card was all bs since the election.
Speaker 2: I now pay sixty five dollars to see a doctor
Speaker 2: for a script instead of fifty dollars. Even pension has
Speaker 2: pat unless suffering with cancer or chronic illness. Thanks albow
Speaker 2: says Joy. Marian says, I repeat for PM. Rob has
Speaker 2: called in from Blackburn in Victoria. Good morning, Rob, Good
Speaker 2: morning Mike. Nice.
Speaker 9: Nice to see to hear you on your weekly chat.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 9: I rang up about the neutron bomb because it looks
Speaker 9: as though, just doing a bit of reading, it's like
Speaker 9: everyone on their dogs had it tried it, you know,
Speaker 9: like not tried it as such. But I've been playing
Speaker 9: with where they should use it and so forth, and
Speaker 9: I found one of the I want to be at
Speaker 9: descriptions I think was by a National Authority director Hal
Speaker 9: Brown and Soviet General Secretary Lennon Brezhnev, who both described
Speaker 9: neutron bombs as a capitalist bomb because it was designed
Speaker 9: to destroy people while preserving property.
Speaker 2: Well, that that was the story about it, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: Just reading the detail, This is one little piece I
Speaker 2: didn't put on the air before. The concern was that
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be effective against, for example, tanks.
Speaker 9: All right, one of one of our Chinese warships off
Speaker 9: the Sydney coast, do you reckon? We might be able
Speaker 9: to land one there on the deck and we could
Speaker 9: maybe get their get air naval fleet up by stealth.
Speaker 2: So so we could the theory there would be it
Speaker 2: woud wipe out the crew, but we would still have
Speaker 2: the worship and we could put our flag on it.
Speaker 2: That's your thinking.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you could give it a couple of works sort
Speaker 9: of dust the clear, so to speak. Yeah, and then
Speaker 9: just just going there with the with the suits on
Speaker 9: and where we go. Yeah, And I just want to
Speaker 9: lie I note about Donald Trump farmer Trump supporter. My
Speaker 9: wife isn't.
Speaker 2: How does that work out?
Speaker 9: And my daughter my daughter isn't either. So that's so
Speaker 9: that that has has some interesting discussions. But when when
Speaker 9: the don was in the last time was there. I
Speaker 9: was in one of the Watson News stores and it
Speaker 9: was coming up to Valentine's Day and here's the card
Speaker 9: and it says make Valentine's Day Great again and the
Speaker 9: picture of Donald Trump on the front. I purchased one
Speaker 9: and sent it on behalf of the don to my wife.
Speaker 2: Did you get to an appropriate reaction?
Speaker 9: I loved it?
Speaker 2: Okay, well love short. It's important to have fun, rob Yeah.
Speaker 9: Well that's right.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 9: I just made sure the steaknives were packed away and
Speaker 9: anything else that could be used.
Speaker 2: But so she was a wake up as she knew
Speaker 2: that it was really you.
Speaker 9: Well, well I certainly hope you know, but it was.
Speaker 9: It was rather rather interesting and you know, and I
Speaker 9: sort of trot that trot the picture out poker picture
Speaker 9: of course, and had it on my my secret phone
Speaker 9: and bring that out at the appropriate time that just
Speaker 9: to remind.
Speaker 2: People that's something to look forward to.
Speaker 9: M Anyway, I shall leave you with that, and yeah,
Speaker 9: you have a great night.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Rob, thank you, thanks for calling in. Nicholas
Speaker 2: has called in from Earlwood. Good morning, good morning.
Speaker 17: I was visiting Sydney CBD yesterday.
Speaker 2: M hm, how did that?
Speaker 17: Well, we're intriguing, Clover. It's clever More territory, as you know,
Speaker 17: part of the Sydney Council there and the posters up
Speaker 17: council posters indicating and this has happened before refugees and
Speaker 17: asylum seekers are welcome here, and I'm thinking, what the
Speaker 17: hell does Sydney Council have to do with immigration policy?
Speaker 2: I mean yes, but you know how it works, Nicholas.
Speaker 2: You get on the council and that's stepping stone to
Speaker 2: federal greatness. And then once you've got that under your belt,
Speaker 2: the rest of us here in Australia are just helping
Speaker 2: you to get that gig with the un Isn't that
Speaker 2: how it works?
Speaker 17: Yes? Indeed, I mean look as a human gesture, Okay,
Speaker 17: you're welcoming individuals. But the thing is there's an underlying
Speaker 17: political motive behind that, and it's virtue signaling. And sometimes
Speaker 17: I think perhaps Clovermore is dreaming of a day that
Speaker 17: the Sydney Council area that she currently holds power in
Speaker 17: becomes part of the Act, that other grand electorate with
Speaker 17: the highest concentration of left leaning federal public servants in Australia,
Speaker 17: And I just wonder whether or not the entire Act
Speaker 17: should be disbanded, so to speak, and become just like
Speaker 17: any other entity, our local entity.
Speaker 2: Well, I used to push the idea of the Act
Speaker 2: being the reverse of that. I felt that every decision
Speaker 2: the federal government made should occur in microcosm in the
Speaker 2: Act so that they.
Speaker 17: Know the ramifications of the policies that the Left is pushing.
Speaker 2: That's right, So worked on a percentage basis. If they
Speaker 2: bring in a million and a half migrants, then whatever
Speaker 2: the percentage is decided on land area or whatever it is,
Speaker 2: we decided that percentage then is happening in the act
Speaker 2: as well, so that the people who make the this
Speaker 2: is can see the direct effect of what they've.
Speaker 17: Done, indeed, because the act does actually live in a bubble.
Speaker 17: And it's interesting. There was a documentary made on the
Speaker 17: Great Santa Maria and he was talking about our discussion
Speaker 17: that he had with Menzies in the latter part of
Speaker 17: his career, or after Menzies had retired, and he asked
Speaker 17: the question of Menzies what was his greatest regret and
Speaker 17: men one of the greatest regrets of Menzies was the
Speaker 17: growth of the Canberra based bureaucracy during his prime ministership
Speaker 17: and the ramifications of that in terms of creating this
Speaker 17: huge bubble, which is it's quite fascinating. I can't remember
Speaker 17: the actual name of the documentary, but it speaks volumes
Speaker 17: for the way that it's a world within a world,
Speaker 17: a bit like Washington, the establishment within Washington, d C.
Speaker 17: Prior to the coming in of Trump, Washington d C.
Speaker 17: And centers like California with their very left leaning ideological
Speaker 17: establishment figure so to speak. Anyway, just also just for
Speaker 17: a different turn, another suggestion for a sad song. Now
Speaker 17: people are familiar of course, with the great Dylan song
Speaker 17: rolling like a Rolling Stone, indeed, very sad sort of lyrics.
Speaker 17: I think what you should consider perhaps is the version,
Speaker 17: a live version done by the Rolling Stones. Brilliantly executed
Speaker 17: by the Rolling Stones. I think Mick Jagger at his best.
Speaker 17: I'm not too sure when that recording came out. It
Speaker 17: was part of a live shit that the Rolling Stones
Speaker 17: release back in the late eighties.
Speaker 2: I think I've never heard that it's a great song.
Speaker 2: The only thing is it's eight minutes long.
Speaker 17: Ah, you could easily edit it, you.
Speaker 2: Know me Me editor Bob Dylan's song good heavens Nicholas
Speaker 2: what he's saying, Ah, you.
Speaker 17: Can be creative. I'll allow for that level of creativity.
Speaker 2: I'll get Chris to do it. Yeah, okay, thank you,
Speaker 2: see Nicholas, bye bye.
Speaker 1: And now on Overnight's Entertainment with Alex First.
Speaker 2: Help you time to entertain you with Alex Versta, Film
Speaker 2: theater and entertainment reviewer and editor of I Tell You
Speaker 2: what I Think dot Com. Good morning, how are you.
Speaker 5: I'm well? Thank you, Mike and your good zelms.
Speaker 2: Mustn't grumble as they say you've been to see f
Speaker 2: one with Brad Pitt very exciting.
Speaker 5: This is well, I can't think of any movie that's
Speaker 5: had more publicity leading up to its launch than this
Speaker 5: one in twenty twenty five. And I suppose I'll start
Speaker 5: with a question because we spoke a few weeks ago
Speaker 5: about Tom Cruise and we said there's no actor on
Speaker 5: the planet that seems to generate more publicity and has
Speaker 5: done such a good job in terms of getting bums
Speaker 5: on seats. Well, I suppose there is a rival, and
Speaker 5: if there is one, it's the star of F one,
Speaker 5: Brad Pitt. Two of them are very similar in age.
Speaker 2: How old are they?
Speaker 3: Well, Pitt would be sixty.
Speaker 2: One and I'm that old.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and.
Speaker 5: He looks damn fine, as does Tom. Cruise is sixty two.
Speaker 2: Amazing.
Speaker 5: Both made a lot of movies. They've been very successful
Speaker 5: and you can bank them, which is why studios love
Speaker 5: having them in their court. And look F one, I
Speaker 5: suppose you somebody who follows Formula one motor racing or
Speaker 5: do you like speed full stop.
Speaker 2: Of the second would be yes, that can be a
Speaker 2: bit of fun. But the answer to the first, I don't
Speaker 2: follow it religiously, as they say, But if it happens
Speaker 2: to be on TV. I'll quite often watch it. I
Speaker 2: think it's exciting just to go back to this movie. Though.
Speaker 2: Is Javier Bardem the bad guy?
Speaker 5: Not the bad guy? Is a guy who plays a
Speaker 5: prominent role because he is the head of a team,
Speaker 5: which is a team that's been manufactured for this particular movie.
Speaker 5: But I suppose, look, there'd be a lot of people
Speaker 5: out there who would have seen the docos about Formula
Speaker 5: one got involved in it in that way, and others
Speaker 5: who are just petrol heads. Now, there have been some
Speaker 5: really good movies made about motor racing. Probably Ford Versus
Speaker 5: Ferrari is the one.
Speaker 2: Great movie stands out. Really enjoyed it, really enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fabulous.
Speaker 5: And they've spent a lot of time and a lot
Speaker 5: of money on this particular film, not just in marketing
Speaker 5: but in terms of making it. And one of the
Speaker 5: things that apparently happened is they shot a lot of
Speaker 5: it in practice sessions and basically they intertwine the actors
Speaker 5: with the real life f one stars, which is just
Speaker 5: a great way to make a movie because you've.
Speaker 2: Got as long as you can't tell, as long as
Speaker 2: you can't spot the intertwining.
Speaker 5: No, and you can't. It's so natural. Look, it looks brilliant.
Speaker 5: It is a superb looking movie. It's also two hours
Speaker 5: thirty five minutes long, so we'll get to that in
Speaker 5: a few minutes. But it's the old and the new
Speaker 5: butting heads. That's the contention here, and it's tense, it's exciting.
Speaker 5: It's really a motor racing thrill ride, which is great.
Speaker 5: That's exactly what you go to the cinema forore, with.
Speaker 2: Some human drama thrown in. I guess, oh yeah.
Speaker 5: A lot of that, Mike, And basically you've got an
Speaker 5: almost Formula one champion from more than thirty years ago,
Speaker 5: failed upon the return to the sport that almost killed him.
Speaker 2: There you go, You try to get out, and they
Speaker 2: drag you back in again.
Speaker 5: Correct, Well, I suppose, when you're thinking about it, I
Speaker 5: suppose you'd say that Brad Pitt would be a fifty
Speaker 5: something year old in this movie. They don't specify, but
Speaker 5: that's my best guesstimate. Now, I can't imagine anybody driving
Speaker 5: a Formula one motor racing car at that age, right,
Speaker 5: Paul Human picked.
Speaker 2: Up motor racing at an advanced age.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but Formula one. I don't think he was quite that,
Speaker 5: But no, I'm not doubting that you can in certain divisions.
Speaker 5: But I suppose by that age your reflexes it would
Speaker 5: be slowing down somewhat. That's the only thing I'm thinking of.
Speaker 5: So look as a contention, no worries. As a movie,
Speaker 5: I'm not sure that it could be replicated in real life,
Speaker 5: not that that matters. The guy, the guy obviously who's
Speaker 5: the older head is Brad Pitt's carry to Sonny Hayes.
Speaker 5: And he had talent and to burn and then there
Speaker 5: was a tragic accident that cut his career short way
Speaker 5: back when so with so much promise. Unfortunately, thereafter it
Speaker 5: all fell apart for him. He gambled away his money
Speaker 5: at a series of failed relationships, a couple of marriages
Speaker 5: and another relationship, and he carries with him the mental
Speaker 5: and physical scars.
Speaker 2: But we do love a comeback, don't we, alex Oh?
Speaker 2: Do we?
Speaker 21: What?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 5: It makes good movie fodder overall. And fortunately he wasn't
Speaker 5: lost to the motorsport industry entirely because he now lives
Speaker 5: hand to mouth in a van, thank you very much,
Speaker 5: and he picks up of course, he does, and he
Speaker 5: picks up paychecks at lower levels. He just claimed the
Speaker 5: Daytona twenty.
Speaker 3: Four hour race.
Speaker 2: I'm not really laughing about people who are living rough.
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking for the idea of Brad pitt doing,
Speaker 2: got to separate the actor from role he is.
Speaker 5: You do absolutely well basically what happens to the character.
Speaker 5: Sonny Hayes is his former teammate, and obviously if you're
Speaker 5: a teammate or arrival in F one, his name is Ruben.
Speaker 5: That's the heavier Bardam character. He comes knocking, and he's
Speaker 5: now owner of a struggling Formula One team which has
Speaker 5: not has not been in the top ten of finishers
Speaker 5: in any of the races in the three years that
Speaker 5: he's been at the Helm. Well it's at least two
Speaker 5: and a half years, because there's nine races left in
Speaker 5: the current season.
Speaker 2: So we've got our Samson versus Goliath, yes, correct.
Speaker 5: And the boards plotting to remove the heavier Bardam character's
Speaker 5: name is Ruben. Unless he can break through in those
Speaker 5: final nine races, the odds stack really well, untruly against
Speaker 5: him and against the cocky rookie league driver that he has,
Speaker 5: a guy called Joshua Pears played by Damson Idris.
Speaker 2: Classic storytelling, isn't it, Because you've got to have a
Speaker 2: deadline apart from anything else. Yes, one hundred.
Speaker 5: It's like the countdown clock very much so like Mission Impossible,
Speaker 5: the same thing. You've got a finite amount of time.
Speaker 5: You don't get there, you basically die. Well, in this case,
Speaker 5: you'll lose your team. Apparently it is three hundred and
Speaker 5: fifty million dollars in the red. That's a bit of
Speaker 5: a us. That's a bit of a problem. Anyway, In desperation,
Speaker 5: he turns to the tactically clever Sonny Hayes, the brad
Speaker 5: Pit character, and we find out that he's the ninth choice.
Speaker 5: Is knocked on a lot of doors so far, and
Speaker 5: it looks really it's tackling the seemingly impossible, and character
Speaker 5: becomes the team's second driver and will help educate Joshua
Speaker 5: Piers the young guy. Right, So, look, it's a decidedly
Speaker 5: unconventional approach that Sonny Hayes has to Formula one motor racing,
Speaker 5: and basically that's going to be lead to all sorts
Speaker 5: of clashes within his team between drivers and so on,
Speaker 5: and the questions then does Sonny Hayes still have what
Speaker 5: it takes and are they the team prepared to listen
Speaker 5: to him?
Speaker 2: Well, we don't want smooth sailing, do we, Alex, Because
Speaker 2: you know, the more that our protagonist has to face
Speaker 2: by way of obstacles and unforeseen drama, the better we
Speaker 2: like it.
Speaker 5: Well, that's the reason it runs for two hours thirty
Speaker 5: five minutes, right, I mean, let's be honest, and it
Speaker 5: is visually arresting, no question about it. Claudio Miranda who
Speaker 5: did Top Gun Maverick, he was the cinematographer. He's done it.
Speaker 5: He's done it again. He's just superb in terms of
Speaker 5: what he the takes and he's just absorbed by it,
Speaker 5: which is great. In the production designed by Ben Monroe
Speaker 5: as well, outstanding, so they capture the excitement they really
Speaker 5: do of the Formula one racing circuit. And the costuming
Speaker 5: is great too. I've got to say Tullion Days responsible
Speaker 5: a lot of style, a lot of elegance. I mean,
Speaker 5: if you've seen the shorts for this, or you know
Speaker 5: the trailer, you can see that there's spent a lot
Speaker 5: of time getting authenticity and I think.
Speaker 2: That's great, sounds pretty good.
Speaker 5: What do you give it well, look, the characterizations are
Speaker 5: really good. And also Hans Zimmer, who you might have
Speaker 5: heard of. It's his score. Misic is terrific, ratchets up
Speaker 5: the tension and a lot of push pull in between
Speaker 5: many parties. Looks I would put it right up there
Speaker 5: with Ford versus Ferrari. Substantive, top tier motor racing movie.
Speaker 7: Perhaps a little bit it could have.
Speaker 5: Been pared back a little bit without losing an eating
Speaker 5: of substance, but still commend it seven and a half
Speaker 5: to eight out of ten, M rated F one. It
Speaker 5: is called, it.
Speaker 2: Sounds to me like I'd like to go see it.
Speaker 2: What about Riviera Revenge.
Speaker 5: Well, okay, this is a fascinating story because it's based
Speaker 5: on a contention that the director read and it was
Speaker 5: in a newspaper and it concerns and he's both the
Speaker 5: writer and the director's name is Yvonne or Ivan, I'm
Speaker 5: not sure which one. Albarak And it's a movie about well,
Speaker 5: it's based on a ninety two year old This is
Speaker 5: in Italy. It happened a few years ago. A ninety
Speaker 5: two year old Sicilian discovered love letters addressed to his
Speaker 5: wife dating back more than seventy years now, that in itself, Okay, well,
Speaker 5: that's great. The problem is that at the time he
Speaker 5: was already married.
Speaker 2: To her, and so the love letters are from him
Speaker 2: and she's married to him at the time.
Speaker 5: Is correct. So now what actually happened in real life
Speaker 5: is that even though he's ninety two, and even though
Speaker 5: this happened more than seventy years ago, he could not
Speaker 5: forgive his wife for the adultery, so he filed for divorce.
Speaker 5: And obviously the writer and director read this and said,
Speaker 5: oh my golly, what a great contention for a movie.
Speaker 2: And the judge said, why now after all this time,
Speaker 2: and he said enough already. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, the fascinating part is that the director has still said, well,
Speaker 5: hang on, am I going to have a ninety two
Speaker 5: year old protagonist? And he's made him a useful seventy five.
Speaker 2: And really cheated on his age.
Speaker 5: Man ex Actually, Francois is the guy's name, played by
Speaker 5: Andre de Solier, and he's a former military man and
Speaker 5: he lives life on his terms and he's married to
Speaker 5: Annie and that marriage has been going for ages. She
Speaker 5: was nineteen when they were first wed, and they've got
Speaker 5: three grown up children now, the eldest of them, has
Speaker 5: followed his dad into the armed forces, and there's a
Speaker 5: family gathering to mark his mum's birthday, and that's when
Speaker 5: this the eldest child his wife reveal they're expecting their
Speaker 5: fifth child. The other four girls, so the dad Francois
Speaker 5: makes it clear to be nice to break the pattern.
Speaker 5: And the other kids, they've all got a few dad
Speaker 5: favors the eldest and let's say the other two kids
Speaker 5: aren't too happy that middle child has been keeping a
Speaker 5: secret from a straight life dad, namely the fact that
Speaker 5: she's a lesbian. And then the youngest of them is
Speaker 5: artistic and he's actually a professional marionettist so pappeteer, but
Speaker 5: his dad has never been to one of his shows
Speaker 5: because he doesn't sort of really he's not into the arts.
Speaker 5: He's not interested in even vaguely, despite the fact that
Speaker 5: he's his son. So he's got all sorts of problems
Speaker 5: in terms of his family dynamic. So Franz Faba dad
Speaker 5: was clearing boxes in the attic and he discovers a
Speaker 5: pile of old love letters written to any ten years
Speaker 5: into their marriage, because it's immediately clear to him that
Speaker 5: his wife has been having an affair or was he
Speaker 5: goes apoplectic, doesn't he go totally betrayed, and to make
Speaker 5: matters worse, and he had it off with one of
Speaker 5: their friends.
Speaker 2: Oh dear, oh dear. So he's been doubly let down
Speaker 2: my wife and the friend exactly.
Speaker 5: And of course he has to confront the friend, and
Speaker 5: the wife decides to go along for the ride. And
Speaker 5: you can imagine what goes on as a result of
Speaker 5: all that. Extreme measures had taken and so on. So look,
Speaker 5: the revelations just keep on coming. It's a feel good
Speaker 5: They've done it as a rom com right, which has
Speaker 5: been inspired by fact, but I think they've liberally diverged
Speaker 5: from what the true story was. Nevertheless, that concept is
Speaker 5: a very very good one. I did enjoy it. And
Speaker 5: having said that, the film maintains a light touch throughout,
Speaker 5: it uses jealousy and intransigence as rather powerful tools, and
Speaker 5: also contrasting characters. Because there's the husband and the wife,
Speaker 5: they're very different to one another, the husband and the
Speaker 5: two youngest of his children, and then the wife and
Speaker 5: her laid back former lover.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, so Alex, to paraphrase the Russell Crowe character,
Speaker 2: were we entertained.
Speaker 5: We were entertained. I just thought the Andre de Soli,
Speaker 5: the lead character, full of bombast and indignity as Frans
Speaker 5: who are exactly what you would want. And then you've
Speaker 5: got the sort of softly, softly wife and then she
Speaker 5: starts to push back. Good on her for doing though,
Speaker 5: And of course you've got that lover, the former lover,
Speaker 5: who is as relaxed as you can possibly get. And
Speaker 5: the children will each showcase they're rather sensitive personas. So
Speaker 5: look the production design on the film. It was shot
Speaker 5: by the way in the south of France, so it
Speaker 5: ain't half bad to look at. It is one of
Speaker 5: the features the production design, some stunning settings inside and out,
Speaker 5: and it's exuberant. Rivera Revengers, it's mad capped, it's enjoyable,
Speaker 5: it's an easy watch. It's a good excuse to sort
Speaker 5: of sit down and have a bit of fun. And
Speaker 5: it only runs for ninety four minutes and it's rated M, so.
Speaker 8: Well worth a look.
Speaker 5: You're going to have a bit of fun with it.
Speaker 5: Seven and a half out of ten for Rivera a
Speaker 5: Revenge the.
Speaker 2: Dah Ba r Aleck. Thank you for that. That's Alex first,
Speaker 2: and Alex is a film and theater and entertainment reviewer
Speaker 2: and editor of I Tell You what I Think dot Com.
Speaker 2: Now I want to take a call from Tracy. Good morning, Tracy,
Speaker 2: Good morning, Mike.
Speaker 9: Mike.
Speaker 14: I've been carrying on a bit lately about Albo and
Speaker 14: Kevin Rudd. You'd think Albos trying is this to get
Speaker 14: together with Trump? And I saw Albo and Kevin Rudd
Speaker 14: dining out together, and I mean, doesn't think Albow those
Speaker 14: insulting remarks that Ruder put out about Trump, Trump isn't
Speaker 14: going to forget them, Mike, Albo Chelse isn't making it
Speaker 14: easy for us?
Speaker 2: Well, no, I don't think Elbow knows what to say,
Speaker 2: or do you at this particular point. But do you
Speaker 2: think you feel it's a mistake for Elbow to be
Speaker 2: seen to be too close to Rudd. Don't you think
Speaker 2: he's left it a bit late for that?
Speaker 21: Well, I think he might have to tell you the truth,
Speaker 21: because honestly, I don't know who sent Rud to America,
Speaker 21: but really he should be I said to Philly other night,
Speaker 21: send him to Tasmania and never be heard of a game.
Speaker 2: But we don't want to get the Tasmanian's offside.
Speaker 22: No, no, I know that we've got to find some
Speaker 22: spot from me for him that we can barely hear
Speaker 22: about him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Prince Lenod de Hut, is he still going? Maybe
Speaker 2: he could go there?
Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, that's the point too.
Speaker 2: I try to help Tracy. Well, thank you for calling
Speaker 2: with that. I gome downy bye bye now bye. Now, Maria,
Speaker 2: you knew Maria would get some response, right, Duncan says
Speaker 2: himks mother superior mented, how do we solve a problem
Speaker 2: like Maria? Oh yes, that's sound a music right hostages.
Speaker 2: Maria says Duncan, death to America and Israel chanted by
Speaker 2: Iran for the past forty six years. Maria, Iran enticing enriching, enriching,
Speaker 2: not enticing uranium to seventy percent when the old Christi
Speaker 2: production in Richmond is five percent. Maria, I'm quoting Duncan here,
Speaker 2: women's rights in Iran. Maria Egypt's wall to keep the
Speaker 2: Iranian sponsored Palestinians out. Maria says Duncan from and brackets
Speaker 2: see a carbon neutral crows brackets bay carbon neutral bay
Speaker 2: hmm okay. Margaret says Mike. Maria's views are wrong. I
Speaker 2: think her name is Maria. She's a Palestinian's border and
Speaker 2: clearly delusional, says Margaret. Anti Israel, anti American, hates Trump.
Speaker 2: People with views like Maria are in extreme danger to
Speaker 2: the world. To Australia, the Israelis or the Americans are
Speaker 2: not evil. Iran has a clear mission to wipe out
Speaker 2: anyone who's not Muslim. Simple as that, says Margaret. If
Speaker 2: Maria feels so strongly in the views, perhaps she should
Speaker 2: get on a plane and go fight over there now
Speaker 2: as we got. Oh yes, Michael says mate. I think
Speaker 2: the world has a verdue for another world war, and
Speaker 2: I think it needs one to make society understand what's important.
Speaker 2: That this won't bs and transgender crap, etc. They will
Speaker 2: be in the fetal position, pissing their pants, crying. The
Speaker 2: captain will run out of bullets, shooting cowards. A war
Speaker 2: will wake society up and well overdue. It's needed like
Speaker 2: a cult or a reset. See. I thought that was
Speaker 2: what we had with the American election, a reset without
Speaker 2: the men with rifles. But historically, Michael, you are correct,
Speaker 2: that's when the resets come, and it's because you know,
Speaker 2: societies which are once great a falling apart. Whatever it is,
Speaker 2: and then we have the war, and then we have
Speaker 2: the big reset. It would be nice to have the
Speaker 2: reset without the war, but it seems like human beings
Speaker 2: are destined to have wars. It just seems to work
Speaker 2: out that way. Joe says, Hi, Mike, the last time
Speaker 2: I was in Sydney, CBD, the whole place was festooned
Speaker 2: with those hideous gay flags politics aside, the whole thing
Speaker 2: looked really ugly. Cheers, Joe Leslie says, Mike. Can you
Speaker 2: tell me when global warming is going to start? Because
Speaker 2: it is a cold winter. Yes, I've noticed it certainly is. Anna,
Speaker 2: You've no idea how any pod yeap, Thank you Anna
Speaker 2: for the kind words, kind words, kind words, kind words.
Speaker 2: They please try to make the listeners happy by having
Speaker 2: you on more frequently. Hugs, Anna, Thank you Anna. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I just wanted to get to the hugs because I
Speaker 2: figured if it's you, there would be hugs. Paul disagrees
Speaker 2: with our film and reviewer. He says, good day, Mike.
Speaker 2: Anyone who follows if one knows, this new movie is
Speaker 2: an absolute dud and comical, so there you going. Opinions
Speaker 2: may vary, Chris says Mike re Iran versus Israel. Even
Speaker 2: Maria from Ryde seems to be very misled and almost
Speaker 2: everything stated tonight, such as the Israelis have such knowledgeable
Speaker 2: capability to kill Iranian warmongers only a few civilians. Contrast Iran,
Speaker 2: which next day bombed a Jewish unarmed, non military hospital.
Speaker 2: That alone should show Maria the immoral morals of the
Speaker 2: ayatole mallahs. And they're crucifying military cheers Chris, a Sydney senor.
Speaker 2: That's Chris's depiction of himself. Not what I said. I mean,
Speaker 2: I said it, but I just read it. If you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Susan says, how's your pussy head
Speaker 2: going to your babysitting? It's going pretty well, but it
Speaker 2: is as Prissy has tend to be demanding. And if
Speaker 2: I'm on the phone, it comes and snouts me and
Speaker 2: headbuts me and says, what about me? What about some attention?
Speaker 2: What about me? Me?
Speaker 23: Me?
Speaker 2: But apart from that, it seems to be quite happy.
Speaker 2: I use the aircon sometimes with this heater I turn on.
Speaker 2: It loves that. It just likes to be where the
Speaker 2: heater is and snooze. You know what I wonder about cats?
Speaker 2: Because I'm not an ex but the lady who owns
Speaker 2: this one, I was talking to her on the phone
Speaker 2: yesterday and she was saying about how cats sleep eighteen
Speaker 2: hours a day? You know, is that a true? And
Speaker 2: b how do they stay so fit? I mean, there's
Speaker 2: something if I was in charge, you know, if I was,
Speaker 2: say a ominivodent being although you don't see that job
Speaker 2: advertised very often, I would prefer that we. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: deny cats doing that, but I'd like it to be
Speaker 2: the case for us as well, that we could sleep
Speaker 2: eighteen hours a day and still be as fit as
Speaker 2: How do they do it? Anyway? It's according to three,
Speaker 2: well more or less, it's actually fourteen minutes to three.
Speaker 2: But you know, there's nobody in the place. The Sinatra
Speaker 2: said by way of introduction to the tragic song of
Speaker 2: the Morning, and this one that was suggested earlier by
Speaker 2: my associate, mister Sindant, And it is a classic. Have
Speaker 2: a listen. It's so long since I've heard that. It
Speaker 2: is a classic song. But it's not a tragic song.
Speaker 2: It's a song of hope. It's a song of undying love. Yeah. Anyway,
Speaker 2: a nice song, I guess you're looking at me like
Speaker 2: I should play some commercials. Oh okay, Susan says, good choice. Dale.
Speaker 2: Dale is a softie, Robin says Mike. Johnny Mathis could
Speaker 2: never sing anything but beautiful songs. And then there's a
Speaker 2: musical emoji. Love him, says Robin. Wayne says, oh, Nicholas,
Speaker 2: you never fail lol. And David Shubridge go and do one.
Speaker 2: No one cares what you've used an opinion are three
Speaker 2: exclamation points. Steve says. The embassy hostages were not released
Speaker 2: under Carter. On the day Reagan was inaugurated, the hostages
Speaker 2: were released. Andrew's wife says, good morning, Mike. Maria is
Speaker 2: a good example of a victim of misinformation, ill education,
Speaker 2: and fake news. Her hysteria is indicative of the pro
Speaker 2: Palestinian and anti Semitic terrorist propaganda. That's from Andrew's wife.
Speaker 2: And I've got if I scroll down here, I know
Speaker 2: I've got some more. I've got a little bit of
Speaker 2: time to read you, Leslie says Michael. You, Oh no,
Speaker 2: that's Anna. Sorry. See the thing with this is if
Speaker 2: I don't store everything in that side, I start to
Speaker 2: read things and then the device makes a decision for me.
Speaker 2: Which I didn't ask it to do, so let me
Speaker 2: scroll down to where I was. Leslie says, Mike. Women
Speaker 2: should know young women in Iran are currently in jail
Speaker 2: for showing their hair. These young women were brave, but
Speaker 2: they got bashed and some murdered. They want to be free,
Speaker 2: says Leslie. Yeah, easier said than done. Maria sent this
Speaker 2: text in Palestinians are indigenous or caps to the land,
Speaker 2: and it looks like six seven exclamation points there. On
Speaker 2: the other hand, Beverly says, Hi, Mike, just listening to Maria,
Speaker 2: there was an explanation about the legality of the strike.
Speaker 2: Evidently a president is within his rights to make the
Speaker 2: decision that he has. However, to go further, it then
Speaker 2: has to be approved by Congress because then it becomes
Speaker 2: a war involvement. Regards BEV. Marie, not to be confused
Speaker 2: with Maria, says, nice to hear you let that lady
Speaker 2: have her say. I totally disagree with her, but you
Speaker 2: let her have her say. That's why I like TGB.
Speaker 2: You listened to both sides. I totally disagree with her,
Speaker 2: says Marie. Michael says, it's a mass triggered this whole
Speaker 2: Middle Eastern War. Was that horrific attack all legal. It's
Speaker 2: interesting how Palestinians are now complaining about the consequences after
Speaker 2: triggering a war, says Michael. Danny says another Palestinian sympathizer,
Speaker 2: who can't believe that hermas killed twelve hundred people and
Speaker 2: took hostages. She's talking the Palestinian party line, says Danny.
Speaker 2: And the thing is scrolled back to where it was.
Speaker 2: These computers that know better than I do. My vintage
Speaker 2: motor car does that. When I started up, it ignores
Speaker 2: the accelerator because the computer knows better than I do,
Speaker 2: and it revs the motor and then drops the speedback.
Speaker 2: It's been like that since I've known it, Mick says,
Speaker 2: speaking of cats, I sometimes feed my cat outside or
Speaker 2: leave the food there, but my cat was still hungry
Speaker 2: for some reason. Turns out another cat was getting into
Speaker 2: my backyard and eating a food. Shifty cat, says Mick. Yeah,
Speaker 2: no honor among cats, of course. The thing about cats
Speaker 2: is they'll have a bit of the food and then
Speaker 2: leave it, whereas dogs, I suppose, because dogs have to
Speaker 2: compete with the pack or whatever it is, they wolf
Speaker 2: it all down, no matter how much they've just had
Speaker 2: so they don't leave it lying around for other dogs.
Speaker 1: Now on two, GB, four BC and network stations. Back
Speaker 1: to US Ray You're overnight with Mike Jeffries.
Speaker 2: Good morning, welcome along if you've just joined US National
Speaker 2: Days with Dale coming up. Also just for something a
Speaker 2: little bit different. There's been talked during the week about
Speaker 2: this business of stopping kids accessing social media until they're sixteen.
Speaker 2: I'm going to have a bit of a conversation about that. Actually,
Speaker 2: there's plenty a couple of conversations. One, you know, how
Speaker 2: do you deal with it as an average parent, and
Speaker 2: the other being the technicalities of it, because they obviously
Speaker 2: haven't figured that out. What I read during the week
Speaker 2: was Okay, they got a system, but it doesn't work
Speaker 2: all the time, which doesn't surprise me, and you know,
Speaker 2: like it at best a lot of the time. Apparently
Speaker 2: it couldn't tell the difference between a seventeen year old
Speaker 2: kid and a fifteen year old kid. Well, can you
Speaker 2: imagine this seventeen year old who wants to use social
Speaker 2: media and she's not allowed to because the device thinks
Speaker 2: she's only fifteen. Hmmm, No, Jerry, Jerry had a comment here,
Speaker 2: which has been smothered by other comments. But maybe I
Speaker 2: can find it. Oh, yes, Jerry says Mike. To me,
Speaker 2: the tragic thing about this morning song is that I
Speaker 2: remembered the words, but I am not able to recall
Speaker 2: what I had for dinner last night, says Jerry. Jason says,
Speaker 2: good day, Mike. So I take it that Maria supports
Speaker 2: the hanging of women in Iran for not wearing a
Speaker 2: head cover Jace. Barbara says, Iran say all the time,
Speaker 2: Death to the Big Satan, Big Satan being the USA,
Speaker 2: says Barbara. Jean says, I, Mike, who does Maria think
Speaker 2: supports Hamas, Hezbala, the hooties and so on. She's ignorant,
Speaker 2: says Jane. Rod says, can you please get that caller
Speaker 2: to explain the non proliferation treaty? And Barbara says, with
Speaker 2: the caller, care to tell us where the hostages are?
Speaker 2: Sharon is angling for a spinallese pillow. I know we
Speaker 2: don't have those to give away on the Overnight show.
Speaker 2: Maybe we don't want people to go to sleep, but anyway, Sharon,
Speaker 2: good luck with the spinal pillow. What are you saying here?
Speaker 2: Play this song, I will follow him. Oh, yes, No,
Speaker 2: it's totally tragic though. Was it their song? But Sharon says,
Speaker 2: I've been listening for thirty five years, never won a thing.
Speaker 2: Would love a spinal eased pillow for my birthday two weeks.
Speaker 2: I'd like one, but you have to call Ben or
Speaker 2: you know, one of the daytime guys goes. To the
Speaker 2: very best of my knowledge. Unless Dale's keeping the secret
Speaker 2: from me, we don't have spinalle's pillows to give away. Hi,
Speaker 2: Mike and Dale's songs not tragic. It's a beautiful love song.
Speaker 2: Good shows should be more with Mike. I wouldn't switch
Speaker 2: to you the other nights. Regards Margaret. Thank you Margaret
Speaker 2: for that. And I'm just scrolling back to see if
Speaker 2: I missed anything from earlier. Steve says United Nations atomic
Speaker 2: watchdog Duran was not cooperating with nuclear checks that was legal,
Speaker 2: very dangerous. Iran was not to be trusted. Cheers Robert.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Jason said, good day, Mike. The first thing
Speaker 2: the Liberal Party should do is poach Elbow's campaign manager
Speaker 2: so he can teach the Liberals how to lie about us.
Speaker 2: As Jason didn't somebody from the Liberal party say they
Speaker 2: admired the way the campaign manager ran the campaign for
Speaker 2: labor and I can imagine those guys saying that, because
Speaker 2: you know, that's the whole world and oh yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: the ideology, the promises, that doesn't matter so much. It's
Speaker 2: how you run the campaign. As Richo said, whatever it takes.
Speaker 2: Sally has called in from Ingleburn. Good morning, Sally.
Speaker 18: Wedding might Yes, I.
Speaker 10: Want to go back a little bit in history if
Speaker 10: I may.
Speaker 2: How far back do you want to go? Are we
Speaker 2: talking dinosaurs or.
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 2: Not that far?
Speaker 10: No, No, I want to go back in history and
Speaker 10: go back to the Shah's father, who was the previous
Speaker 10: king of Iran. He was taken out of a country
Speaker 10: and the Mauls took over, and that took place in
Speaker 10: around for a while, but not very very long. He
Speaker 10: was taken to exile and he was brought back into
Speaker 10: the country and he dealt with them very very swiftly,
Speaker 10: to the point where you didn't hear about any anything
Speaker 10: to do with religion and all the retrics that's taking
Speaker 10: place in this country right now. When the sun was
Speaker 10: taken when the shark was taken out in seventy nine
Speaker 10: to exile, and I remember I was a teenager. It
Speaker 10: was all over the news and it was said over
Speaker 10: and over, so it sort of stayed in your mind.
Speaker 10: It was said that soon as things quietened down, don't
Speaker 10: be brought back. He never was, And when he never was,
Speaker 10: not one country raised the voice and said why not? Really,
Speaker 10: so this lot just sat there and stayed there until today,
Speaker 10: and in all this time their people have suffered in
Speaker 10: that country so much. You know, it's amazing how with
Speaker 10: the father he was brought back and dealt with them swiftly,
Speaker 10: but the son wasn't. But the son wasn't. And not
Speaker 10: one country, for example, Israel or America or any country,
Speaker 10: not one country said why not. Because at the end
Speaker 10: of the day, that ideology, well, let's face it, it
Speaker 10: is what it is. So for it to have gotten
Speaker 10: to this point, all these major countries, I'm sorry to
Speaker 10: say this, have only got themselves to blame for it.
Speaker 10: That they were allowed to stay there and grow.
Speaker 2: Well, that's happening all over the world, I guess if
Speaker 2: you take that view. But because fortunately all the adherence
Speaker 2: to that philosophy, and you know, they vary, they're not
Speaker 2: all that fanatical. Although the general message seems to be
Speaker 2: death to the unbeliever, doesn't it.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's see if you look at photos and footage
Speaker 10: of how people were under the shark.
Speaker 2: And of course now it could have been in the
Speaker 2: Western world.
Speaker 23: Yeah, but exactly it was.
Speaker 10: It was like a Western country. It's like day and night.
Speaker 10: And when he was not taken back like his father,
Speaker 10: not one country said a word. And now for the
Speaker 10: side is they've all got themselves to blay for because
Speaker 10: they allowed this modin there and just grow.
Speaker 2: Well, they've certainly done that, and they've done it by
Speaker 2: ruthless means.
Speaker 10: What's that all site? What's that?
Speaker 17: All?
Speaker 10: Able thrives when good men do nothing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes, it's enough for good men to do nothing
Speaker 2: for evil men to succeed. Yep, all right, thanks Sally,
Speaker 2: have a good day, you two bye. A couple of
Speaker 2: emails here from O Is it meaner? Yeah? I thought
Speaker 2: the man was going to speak Jeffrey from Beverly Hills,
Speaker 2: non us. The other says Heimike, removing all the obfuscation.
Speaker 2: It's actually quite obvious the alban Easy government has decided
Speaker 2: to sacrifice our alliance with the USA in the hope
Speaker 2: of appeasing the CCP and showing up its relatively small
Speaker 2: but electorally crucial Muslim voter base. And also fyi, Trump's
Speaker 2: actions in relation to around another illegal or unconstitutional. As
Speaker 2: commander in chief of the Armed Forces, he did not
Speaker 2: require congressional approval. Neither did Obama, says Jeffrey, thank you
Speaker 2: for those observations. National Days brought to you by Orange
Speaker 2: Cream Biscuits.
Speaker 19: Nothing goes down better in the middle of the night
Speaker 19: than a beautiful orange cream biscuit and a nice cup
Speaker 19: of tea.
Speaker 2: That mob that's supply the biscuits. How come so I
Speaker 2: guess it's a different brand or something. We never see
Speaker 2: vovos or any of those classics.
Speaker 24: No, that's because we don't have We always have the
Speaker 24: cream biscuits. Well, it's probably a good thing because if
Speaker 24: you put in the non cream biscuits, it's the Scotch
Speaker 24: finger biscuits. They are always the first to go, you
Speaker 24: know how as a pecking order. Yeah, same as orange
Speaker 24: cream biscuits as a last left. And I said to
Speaker 24: you earlier, Mike, I'm falling off the wagon, did you
Speaker 24: I did. I had a big handful of orange cream biscuits,
Speaker 24: orange slices, they're actually technically caught.
Speaker 2: Have you had to now buy several new pairs of trousers.
Speaker 24: But just in the last what three hours?
Speaker 2: Not yet? They can be sudden.
Speaker 24: Yeah, but I did a lot of walking on the weekend.
Speaker 24: I did a big coast walk down there, and also
Speaker 24: I was out today walking, so I have done a
Speaker 24: lot of walking. So hopefully I'm countering it.
Speaker 2: So you're hoping to be rewarded by not expanding in
Speaker 2: the gut department, I hope so, Mike.
Speaker 24: But I think sometimes it's, you know, you've sort of
Speaker 24: reached a point where it doesn't matter how much exercise
Speaker 24: you do, it's you know, starts thicking out the waistline.
Speaker 2: So do you have any days?
Speaker 12: I do?
Speaker 24: And now I'll be interesting to see what you say
Speaker 24: about this, because it's something I still enjoy, especially around
Speaker 24: this time of the year it's National potage Day. Porridge
Speaker 24: person not that much.
Speaker 2: I got into the habit of because I'm not a
Speaker 2: big fan of milk, of having oats with fruit juice
Speaker 2: and some berries to it. We've had this conversation that's
Speaker 2: my stomach is churning just well. I know you think
Speaker 2: it's set religious, but now I haven't eaten notes for a.
Speaker 24: While, but obviously it's sacrilicious, sack delicious. Yeah, but I
Speaker 24: think there's nothing better than porridge, particularly if you have
Speaker 24: some cream, if I have some leftover dollop, if I've
Speaker 24: been having some apple pie.
Speaker 2: And brown sugar and cream and porridge isn't bad.
Speaker 24: Yeah, I don't think I've got any brown sugar. I
Speaker 24: usually use the raw sugar, though I don't use white
Speaker 24: sugar very often.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the raw sugar. It's kind of crunchier, isn't it.
Speaker 24: Well, Yeah, but it's I think it's just a little
Speaker 24: bit better because it's not refined. It's not totally brown,
Speaker 24: because I eat refined bread like I've gone back to
Speaker 24: for a long while. I would only eat bread that
Speaker 24: was either you know, four grain or brown and what
Speaker 24: have you.
Speaker 2: But if I buy.
Speaker 24: Baker's Delight white bread, oh my lordie, a lot of
Speaker 24: it's very nice.
Speaker 2: Indeed.
Speaker 24: But before the invention of baking ovens, porridge was the
Speaker 24: most essential part of a British diet.
Speaker 2: Porridge.
Speaker 24: I didn't realize it was actually called gruel as well. Yeah,
Speaker 24: I always thought gruel was just some sort of slow
Speaker 24: the peasants used to eat or they give prisoners and things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it grules a bit all encompassing, isn't it.
Speaker 24: Maybe, But the origin and the porridge can be traced
Speaker 24: back to northern Europe, where it was traditionally enjoyed savory.
Speaker 24: The word porridge first appeared in the sixteenth center and
Speaker 24: is believed to be a spin off of the word pottage,
Speaker 24: which is a type of stew.
Speaker 2: Oh, a massive pottage, I would see.
Speaker 24: I've never heard that word before. Porridge hasn't always been
Speaker 24: the way it is today. Preparation ingredients varied from grasp
Speaker 24: orn grains to other crops. Quanoa grain has been used
Speaker 24: for making porridge for more than three thousand years, whereas
Speaker 24: rice porridge was eaten in China since twenty five hundred BC.
Speaker 24: Goes even back further than this, with evidence discovered by
Speaker 24: research is proving that the cooked mush now it isn't
Speaker 24: even better word.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is mushy. I don't like that texture in
Speaker 2: the mouth, clingy ricey stuff.
Speaker 24: No, see, that's where the milk smooths it out.
Speaker 2: Mike.
Speaker 24: Yeah, it was eaten by some going back twelve thousand
Speaker 24: years at the beginning of the Neolithic.
Speaker 2: Revolution, so I think it should stay there.
Speaker 24: Soon after, people started preparing thick pancakes on stone ovens
Speaker 24: or hot tiles using porridge like mixtures such as flatbreads
Speaker 24: are mentioned throughout the Old Testament, but similar innovation simultaneously
Speaker 24: occurring throughout the world. The popularity of pordredge and its
Speaker 24: many variations led to the creation of corn cakes, corn breads,
Speaker 24: corn puddings, et cetera.
Speaker 2: I like a lot of that Southern food in the
Speaker 2: Southern US, but there's something they have. I'm trying to
Speaker 2: think what a school starts with you, doesn't it groats
Speaker 2: or green grits? Grits grits. Yeah, that's the most boring
Speaker 2: food in the world.
Speaker 24: I don' think that wheat based or something.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't like it.
Speaker 24: Yeah, I just mostly I think most people have heard
Speaker 24: the word grits coming from the Beverly hillbilliesjowls. I think
Speaker 24: it would be one of Greenny's things to cook up.
Speaker 2: That would be hogjowls. I think, so in that nice.
Speaker 24: Brits andjowls gogiin Yes, yeah, I think this and this
Speaker 24: ties into the next dates let it go day, No,
Speaker 24: I'd let those glits and jails go, but let it
Speaker 24: Go Day is a reminder for you to stop wasting
Speaker 24: time and energy on negative feelings from events in the
Speaker 24: past instead of strengthenings. So instead strengthen yourself, you can
Speaker 24: let it go.
Speaker 6: Let it go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I like that. The movie that Yeah, we
Speaker 2: had reviewed this morning about the ninety two year old
Speaker 2: guy that discovered seventy years ago. The wife had had
Speaker 2: a fear with somebody.
Speaker 24: Oh, yeah, that looks interesting. I like a good foreign film.
Speaker 24: I think I'll go and see that. I haven't seen
Speaker 24: F one yet, but looking forward to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. Somebody texted in saying they thought it
Speaker 2: was dull and comical.
Speaker 24: Ah did he say that? Or did he say that?
Speaker 24: The way they treated F one was ridiculous? But that's
Speaker 24: where I say, it's a movie. It's not a documentary.
Speaker 24: It's a movie as far as I'm concerned. As far
Speaker 24: as I can see, the whole point of it is
Speaker 24: the old dog coming in, You've got the new dog
Speaker 24: and the clashing of the old dog and the new
Speaker 24: dog in the So I see that as the film
Speaker 24: and just having if one of the backdrop, that's what
Speaker 24: I'm expecting.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Well, the way Alex was explaining it, it just
Speaker 2: had all those classic storytale yeah pillars to keep it going.
Speaker 2: But I actually remember Michael J. Fox talking about Back
Speaker 2: to the Future and he had to explain to somebody
Speaker 2: that it was a movie and not a documentary about
Speaker 2: Oklahoma in eighteen seventy. Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 24: But that sort of also ties into the amount of
Speaker 24: letters the Coastguard got when Gilligan's Island was on. How
Speaker 24: could they not rescue these people? How could you not
Speaker 24: read all people sending in wedding gifts to neighbors and
Speaker 24: things when someone when there's a marriage between some very
Speaker 24: you know, some favorite people. Anyway, if you got anything
Speaker 24: you need to let go, I've always got something I
Speaker 24: should let go.
Speaker 14: Oh.
Speaker 2: Probably, yes, Although it's interesting, you know, having had a
Speaker 2: bit of time to reflect in recent years, I think
Speaker 2: you do get things into proportion. Yeah, bit of age
Speaker 2: and wisdom, I think, yeah, I don't know if it's wisdom.
Speaker 2: It's just I sort of understand the motivations of some
Speaker 2: of the people who've crossed my path. Oh, okay, and
Speaker 2: I see them. There's a couple I can think I
Speaker 2: want in particular, who I would regard as an interesting study.
Speaker 2: Perhaps not in the way people would think.
Speaker 24: But I suppose as regrets are like exclusively to people
Speaker 24: you have had run in with. I mean, regrets are
Speaker 24: you know, a lot turning left instead of right. There's
Speaker 24: a whole bunch of things like that. But regrets do
Speaker 24: little to know good. They weigh a person down. They
Speaker 24: tend to put a burden on a person's conscience and
Speaker 24: deprive them of even a little joys of life. That's
Speaker 24: particularly if you get wound up and you're really obsessed
Speaker 24: with them.
Speaker 2: I try not to do that. There's some seminars I
Speaker 2: went too many years ago. I was just inclined to
Speaker 2: believe them at the time, but I go with it
Speaker 2: more now. They said, we're all going over the falls
Speaker 2: in a canoe, and I think, to a certain extent,
Speaker 2: life is like that. You know, there are so many
Speaker 2: things that happened that you can't directly control, so just
Speaker 2: try not to take too many rocks.
Speaker 24: Yeah, it's funny how you'd explaining that. Just reminded me of,
Speaker 24: probably near the end of Parenthood, the Steve Martin film
Speaker 24: Neary Steve Brgin.
Speaker 2: I know it's a film, but I haven't seen it.
Speaker 24: Well, it's beautiful because Steve Martin is so obsessed with
Speaker 24: things going in the family, and then the old granny
Speaker 24: comes in just says something to the effect of life
Speaker 24: is like being on a roller coaster. You just you know,
Speaker 24: you just don't know where it's going in the thrills
Speaker 24: of this and that. And suddenly Steve Martin gets it.
Speaker 24: He sees everything going wrong in the family. All these
Speaker 24: things culminate and you just hear the roller coaster sound
Speaker 24: effects and him like the camera twisting around, and suddenly
Speaker 24: he gets what the and because he dos is very
Speaker 24: dismissive of what Granny said, but now he totally gets it.
Speaker 24: And yeah, and then he just rides with it, which
Speaker 24: was a real I think maybe a lot of people
Speaker 24: saw that scene and didn't even quite get it right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 24: I just thought that was really compelling and it was
Speaker 24: a good film.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I do enjoy Steve Martin's work, but I haven't
Speaker 2: seen that particular movie.
Speaker 24: Oh you should. It's it is a good and it's
Speaker 24: a Ron Howard film, and it's got a really good
Speaker 24: ensemble cast.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, oh, I think we need a break. Okay,
Speaker 2: Chris says, hello, Dale, help you well, and as an elder,
Speaker 2: I easily remembered every word in that song and sang along.
Speaker 2: It was a little sad when thinking of a forty
Speaker 2: year breakup, to be sure, But it's all about I
Speaker 2: love you till the bluebells, till in green or something,
Speaker 2: isn't it. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 24: I have a tendency of remembering music note for note,
Speaker 24: but I never remember words. He never listened to the lyrics.
Speaker 24: I just love the tune and yeah voice.
Speaker 2: There are songs like that, of course, where the the
Speaker 2: tune is one thing, but the lyrics giving a different
Speaker 2: sort of message. A little said when thinking of a
Speaker 2: forty you break up, to be sure, but happily not
Speaker 2: overly so I am h oh. By the way, Oh,
Speaker 2: both you and Michael have great audio presents. Cheers old
Speaker 2: timer Sydney Chris.
Speaker 24: You're sending them. Sorry, they're sending us presents. You're sending
Speaker 24: his presents and audio presents.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 2: It's p r e s in ce. Silly Joe says,
Speaker 2: I make my Scottish Nan always had salt on her porridge.
Speaker 24: I put it in when I'm cooking it even isn't
Speaker 24: you put a pinch of salt in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think my granny used to do something like that,
Speaker 2: put salt in the possage on the porridge.
Speaker 24: Sorry, mate, say can you sorry?
Speaker 2: Mike?
Speaker 24: Can you just say you put orange juice in yours?
Speaker 2: Again? Not orange juice? I don't like orange. Oh what
Speaker 2: used to put in apple?
Speaker 24: That's not how you make porridge, prune, that's not how
Speaker 24: you make podgs mixes.
Speaker 2: I have the ninety second porridge brown sugar and cinnamon flavor.
Speaker 2: But that maybe there's not or it says you know
Speaker 2: how you eat porridge. Maybe he's going for the like inflection.
Speaker 24: Yeah, I like the plane porridge.
Speaker 2: That's what mixes well. As long as it doesn't come
Speaker 2: in a sheep's stomach, I can stomach it. Load it,
Speaker 2: load it. Today's a good day, Mike.
Speaker 24: It's also National Family Owned and Operated Businesses Day. Just
Speaker 24: salute the family owned and operated businesses that have survived
Speaker 24: over time despite numerous challenges and setbacks. Got a nice
Speaker 24: little couple of little family owned businesses just up the
Speaker 24: road from me that sell a bunch of things. Always
Speaker 24: makes me wonder how they sort of stick around. But
Speaker 24: because I sort of always walk past it and go
Speaker 24: down to all these coals or woolies.
Speaker 2: But there are some bakeries, for example, that you can
Speaker 2: see the whole family working behind the counter.
Speaker 24: I'll tell you what they've got. Probably the best apple pies,
Speaker 24: Little apple pies.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 24: Today's also National Hydration Day, So get that whatever that
Speaker 24: was you were drinking before, Mike, get another glass all
Speaker 24: into you. It's a good idea to keep hydrated, obviously,
Speaker 24: because it sort of wards off getting things like kidney
Speaker 24: stones and things with keeping everything going.
Speaker 2: Through and I want them, I hear ver, Well, you
Speaker 2: had to pass one.
Speaker 24: God, Mike, haven't I told you a story. I was
Speaker 24: on air with Sharena when it did, and I was
Speaker 24: seriously by the end of the show and I thought, no, no,
Speaker 24: I'm not bailing, and I was. I was like hobbling
Speaker 24: up because it was a bit of pre recorded.
Speaker 2: At the end.
Speaker 24: I'm not giving anything away. I'd get up it's eighteen
Speaker 24: minutes to midnight, and then flapsed out on the floor
Speaker 24: waiting for it the sort of finish and so I
Speaker 24: could you know, but it actually pass Yeah, but it
Speaker 24: actually passed by the time. The pain was gone by
Speaker 24: the time it went off air.
Speaker 2: But so you finally got rid of it.
Speaker 24: Yeah, well I had to go and get it. I
Speaker 24: ended up getting I had it twice and another time
Speaker 24: I have to Actually.
Speaker 2: I remember now you had it made into a signet ring,
Speaker 2: didn't you.
Speaker 24: That's the way. It's big enough anyway. So it's National
Speaker 24: Hydration Data. It's a good idea to keep drinking water,
Speaker 24: and water always has been my drink of choice, as
Speaker 24: you know. Today's National Typewriter Day, zing.
Speaker 2: One of them.
Speaker 24: Yeah, I think a lot of people did. I learned
Speaker 24: the like I can type full finger without looking at
Speaker 24: the board. I doubt if I'd go very well on
Speaker 24: a typewriter, But I always remember that because they've been around.
Speaker 2: A fairwhile obviously, But well, I had one when I
Speaker 2: was twelve. Yeah, so they've been around that long.
Speaker 24: It well, fifteen seventy five, an Italian printmaker Francesco Rampazetto invented.
Speaker 24: It was called the Little Tactile write, a machine to
Speaker 24: quickly press letters onto paper. And I always remember that
Speaker 24: Tom Hanks actually collects.
Speaker 2: Typewriters, oh does he?
Speaker 24: Yeah, Today's also Pink Flamingo Day. I'm just zipping through
Speaker 24: these note because I'm run out of time. Pink Flamingo's Day.
Speaker 24: This is to acknowledge the popular lawn ornament. Yes, I
Speaker 24: doubt if i'd I don't know if i'd have one.
Speaker 24: I like some kitch stuff. I wouldn't mind putting some
Speaker 24: you know, you can get those little garden things of
Speaker 24: Star Wars the garden, you know. I don't mind those
Speaker 24: sort of things because I don't mind a bit of kitch.
Speaker 24: I wouldn't want to put something in the front yard
Speaker 24: that someone's going to walk by and sort of just
Speaker 24: you know, I've grabbed that.
Speaker 2: Well, I suppose that would happen, wouldn't it.
Speaker 24: Yeah, Look, our neighborhood's pretty good. But it's also one
Speaker 24: of those neighborhoods that if you have something you no
Speaker 24: longer want, if you put it out the front, you'll
Speaker 24: be guaranteed someone will you take it and reuse it.
Speaker 2: Well it's not a bad thing, No, that's a terrific thing.
Speaker 24: So but even the backyard, Yeah, I got a nice
Speaker 24: bushy backyard, so you know, yeah, maybe if I see
Speaker 24: one in a k op shop, I might grab one,
Speaker 24: but also start tying in with that day. It's also
Speaker 24: National Pink Day. Pink Yeah, pink not as in the singer,
Speaker 24: I was going to ask, but it's to actually celebrate
Speaker 24: the meaning, history and beauty of the pale shade of red,
Speaker 24: which is pink.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 24: Surveys in both the United States and Europe found pink
Speaker 24: to be the most common associo with femininity. I suppose
Speaker 24: you always do, like if someone has a little girl,
Speaker 24: you'd buy a little pink.
Speaker 2: Now are you allowed to do that?
Speaker 17: Now?
Speaker 2: Though I would still do it.
Speaker 24: I marry fashioned kind of guy.
Speaker 2: As they said in the Monty Python movie, don't you
Speaker 2: think it's a bit early to be imposing roles?
Speaker 24: Not at all imposed immediately? Pink being a subject of
Speaker 24: recent pop culture to interesting facts about the delightful shade
Speaker 24: through time. The day celebrates all things pink. See if
Speaker 24: I can pull someone out sixteen eighties. The phrase pink
Speaker 24: colored in reference to the flowers is first recorded. Seventeen hundreds.
Speaker 24: Men who went out wearing embroidered pink clothing were considered
Speaker 24: masculine and fashionable. Mmm, yeah, how did that change? Seventeen
Speaker 24: hundred oh nineteen forties. The baby Booners are the first
Speaker 24: generation to have gender roles and the preference of the
Speaker 24: signing them at birth, signifying pink infants, clothes for girls
Speaker 24: and blue for buyers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was that recent?
Speaker 24: That recent back in the nineteen forties.
Speaker 2: Yes, you're looking anxious. You don't have to go yet?
Speaker 2: Or are you out of days?
Speaker 17: Oh?
Speaker 24: I thought were Oh no, I missed timing. I thought
Speaker 24: it was eight. No, I was mistiming. I was looking
Speaker 24: at the time thinking, oh, we've got to No. No, no,
Speaker 24: I wasn't out of days.
Speaker 2: I don't know. You've got director three minutes.
Speaker 24: Actually curried through some of them, whereas I could have
Speaker 24: actually talked a bit longer.
Speaker 2: You can if you want to.
Speaker 24: Yeah, yeah, But anyway, going back to pink Flamingo day,
Speaker 24: because I rushed through that one. Yes, the pink Flamingo
Speaker 24: is designed. It's been around since the late fifties. And
Speaker 24: I suppose that ties in with that whole you know,
Speaker 24: if you look at Leave at the beaver, that hole
Speaker 24: was it the nuclear effects shut sorry, nuclear family.
Speaker 2: I was going to get you to come in earlier,
Speaker 2: just so you could say that every time you mentioned
Speaker 2: new nucular and I don't I thought you'd be worn
Speaker 2: out by the end of the program. Now and then.
Speaker 24: Nuclear like little shenanigans. Yes, yeah, in it was called
Speaker 24: Don Thesten. He created the pink Flamingo while working at
Speaker 24: Union Products. Two thousand and six, the production of the
Speaker 24: flamingo stopped by Union Products. So that's that's a good
Speaker 24: what's that sixty? That's like nearly forty years. So making
Speaker 24: pink flamingos is probably a bit of a mainstay of
Speaker 24: people's gardens.
Speaker 2: Why have you thought of having one? I've never No,
Speaker 2: I've never gone for that kind of thing.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 24: Yeah, Well, anyway, this day has been around since two
Speaker 24: thousand and seven. A guy called Dean Mazzarella. Lenn Musters
Speaker 24: Mayor establishes June twenty three is Pink Flamingo's Day.
Speaker 2: But I'm not totally against paddock art. I mean, if
Speaker 2: you've got a paddock and you want to have a
Speaker 2: rusting you know, old tractor, el tractor or something, I
Speaker 2: approve of that. Yeah.
Speaker 24: Is that art or just the fact that you couldn't
Speaker 24: be bothered to hauling off to the scrap metal.
Speaker 2: It depends some paddocks. It obviously is art because the
Speaker 2: paddock is groomed and there's the rusting tractor and others.
Speaker 2: It's just who cares? Yeah, yeah, I've got a.
Speaker 24: Couple of big earns that I have in my backyard,
Speaker 24: which pretty much for Oh, actually I got something. I've
Speaker 24: got a twelve foot shark in my backyard too.
Speaker 2: Well, we can talk about that if we get out
Speaker 2: a chance a bit later.
Speaker 24: It's actually is a big fiberglass shark, okay, which I
Speaker 24: sort of got somewhere along the way. But back in
Speaker 24: twenty ten, myke Cato manufacturing purchase of the copyright for
Speaker 24: Little Mingos and continues to produce them. So they did
Speaker 24: have that little gap between two thousand and six and
Speaker 24: twenty ten. But someone else said, oh, I'm going to
Speaker 24: give it a go and keep making the damned things.
Speaker 2: Sharon says, it's pray for World Peace Day. Is that true?
Speaker 24: I didn't see that one, But let me just go
Speaker 24: outside and it's Sharon kneeling and some praying.
Speaker 2: Sharon is just encouraging that. All right, that's been national
Speaker 2: days him Dale. Thank you. Nicole Senior is a radio
Speaker 2: host in the community realm commentator. She's on the line,
Speaker 2: good morning, How are you, Hi, Mike, I'm good.
Speaker 3: How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm fine, Thank you. I'm just interested in your opinion
Speaker 2: about this sweeping gesture by the government. We're not sure
Speaker 2: what the gesture looks like. But apparently under sixteen's will
Speaker 2: not be able to access social media. I'm not even
Speaker 2: sure how far that goes. I mean, can I still
Speaker 2: look up odd websites? You know? I like to look
Speaker 2: up these unusual news websites all over the place. I
Speaker 2: suppose I can do that without having a picture taken
Speaker 2: in my face. But you've gotten under sixteen in the household,
Speaker 2: haven't you.
Speaker 23: I do I have, Well, I've got an eighteen year
Speaker 23: old and I've also got a seven year old, So look,
Speaker 23: I think it's a great idea, But how they are
Speaker 23: going to implement this, My mind bobbles how they can
Speaker 23: do this. So, for example, at the moment, I can't
Speaker 23: even set up a Spotify account for my seven year
Speaker 23: old son, who listens to a lot of music he
Speaker 23: has as a child the kid's Spotify account, but a
Speaker 23: lot of the songs he listens to he finds on YouTube,
Speaker 23: and I can't get it on the kids one, so
Speaker 23: I have to create an account for him under one
Speaker 23: of my email addresses. How on earth are they going
Speaker 23: to stop children under the age of sixteen from accessing
Speaker 23: social media? There's so many ways you can get around it,
Speaker 23: like a cognition, like it's probably the only thing. But
Speaker 23: that's overstepping the mark, don't you think?
Speaker 13: I do you?
Speaker 2: But before we get onto that, just tell me why
Speaker 2: can't he access certain music as a seven year old?
Speaker 2: Is because the music is not suitable for him? Or
Speaker 2: is there something else that play?
Speaker 18: Yeah, it could be.
Speaker 23: It could be when they have a when he has
Speaker 23: a child, the children's account, it's things. When I say children,
Speaker 23: it's like the Wiggles, that kind of music, really young
Speaker 23: kid kind of music.
Speaker 2: Now it's not going to be.
Speaker 23: No no, And he plays games like he likes to
Speaker 23: play things like Rodblocks and Minecraft and even Minecraft music
Speaker 23: you can't find on the kids' YouTube.
Speaker 2: That's interesting.
Speaker 23: I account, I.
Speaker 2: Had no idea, but here's what I think is interesting.
Speaker 2: Just imagine if you're eighteen year old tries to access
Speaker 2: something on social media and the device says, and I
Speaker 2: believe from tests run so far, sor are quite possible,
Speaker 2: the device says, no, you're only fifteen. That's going to
Speaker 2: be an issue for you, isn't it.
Speaker 23: It would be an issue for me. I mean, look,
Speaker 23: he looks a lot older than eighteen. He's got a
Speaker 23: mustache and a little goady going on, So I don't
Speaker 23: think he'd can't five a fifteen year old, but I
Speaker 23: think for those kids that are quite baby faced, it
Speaker 23: would throw off I'm sorry, you're not old enough to.
Speaker 18: Access this, but in reality they are.
Speaker 5: So what do they have to do?
Speaker 23: Start uploading their birth certificates to prove it? Like, I
Speaker 23: think it gets a little bit out of hand.
Speaker 2: And how do you know it's their birth certificate not
Speaker 2: when they borrowed from a mate?
Speaker 23: Well, exactly right. I think there's Like I said, I
Speaker 23: think they're going to find it very hard to manage
Speaker 23: accessing social media for under sixteen, But I do. I
Speaker 23: completely understand why, and I think it's the bullying. The
Speaker 23: cyber bullying is probably the biggest thing, and I completely
Speaker 23: and usly agree with it from that perspective, But it's
Speaker 23: how do you manage it that's the hard part. Managing
Speaker 23: it would be difficult.
Speaker 2: I was looking at a story a few hours ago
Speaker 2: that is blaming social media for eating disorders with teenage girls.
Speaker 2: You think that's true? Yes?
Speaker 23: And I can speak openly about that because one of
Speaker 23: my closest friends, their daughter has gone through something very similar,
Speaker 23: and that's due to influencers. Influences on Instagram, Snapchat, Facebook
Speaker 23: maybe not so much Facebook. Facebook is more for the
Speaker 23: older crowd, I'd say, other even TikTok. TikTok's another one.
Speaker 23: All the influencers that are out there promoting you know,
Speaker 23: health and fitness with the incorrect information and very unhealthy
Speaker 23: levels of information to all this younger generation, which is
Speaker 23: why I think they are trying to implement that age limit,
Speaker 23: because after the age of sixteen, I think they've got
Speaker 23: their head screwed on a little bit more. But it's awful.
Speaker 23: I wouldn't say you would blame social media, but I
Speaker 23: think kids need to understand.
Speaker 18: That the stuff on social media is exactly that.
Speaker 23: It's fake. It's not reality. It really isn't. I create
Speaker 23: videos on TikTok all the time. You use filters, you
Speaker 23: use music, you can there's so many different things you
Speaker 23: can do in those platforms to make yourself look better,
Speaker 23: looks thinner, looks fatter, whatever it might be, it's not real.
Speaker 23: And I think kids at the under the age of
Speaker 23: sixteen don't have that life experience and the understanding to
Speaker 23: go that's a crap. Do you know what I mean,
Speaker 23: that's the.
Speaker 18: Problem we've got.
Speaker 2: On the other hand, what do you say to people
Speaker 2: who say, oh, yeah, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: at sixteen, they have to confront this having no experience whatever.
Speaker 12: I think.
Speaker 23: Look, one of my bosses quite a sad story, but
Speaker 23: his daughter went through something similar at the same age,
Speaker 23: about sixteen. She had an eating disorder and spend a
Speaker 23: lot of time in hospital. And I was actually talking
Speaker 23: to him about that on Thursday, and he said, it
Speaker 23: is the most horrific experience for any family to go through,
Speaker 23: especially at such a young age, when they don't quite
Speaker 23: understand the consequences of watching all of these people online
Speaker 23: and they can't articulate the difference between reality and what's real.
Speaker 23: And the worst part is a lot of them are
Speaker 23: famous actors and actresses, and you know, promoting huge amounts
Speaker 23: of weight loss, and then a lot of them people
Speaker 23: are saying, oh, that's a zampick or something like that.
Speaker 23: I think, I don't know, it's just really toxic. At
Speaker 23: the moment I know where to draw the line, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 23: I'm a fallow not gone gone gone, but I'm forty
Speaker 23: one years old. All these younger kids that don't have
Speaker 23: the capability to do that.
Speaker 2: Yet there are certain themes that keep cropping up, not
Speaker 2: necessarily along the lines that we are discussing, but there's
Speaker 2: one that says this insert whoever it is, well known,
Speaker 2: star politician, whatever, was sued by the Reserve Bank for
Speaker 2: giving this secret away. How it's possible to make money
Speaker 2: in Australia without working. And I see this over and over,
Speaker 2: and I know some of the people who are being
Speaker 2: featured in it. The most recent one I saw was
Speaker 2: Penny Wong. I'm not saying that I know Penny, but
Speaker 2: I would bet the house on her not supporting this,
Speaker 2: and yet nothing is done about it. So really, I
Speaker 2: suppose because to be clear, you think it's a good idea, right,
Speaker 2: but you don't know how they're going to go about it.
Speaker 2: And so let me ask you this, if it comes
Speaker 2: to the point where we all have to say who
Speaker 2: we are you prepared to subbort it to that extent.
Speaker 23: I struggle with AI. I have a massive fear of AI,
Speaker 23: and I've seen it. I work for one of the
Speaker 23: big four banks full time and it is constantly I
Speaker 23: work in technology, so it is constantly discussed. The fear
Speaker 23: of AI and especially video generated footage, and you know
Speaker 23: it happens all the time. It's happening with a lot
Speaker 23: of famous people saying, oh, I've seen them in a
Speaker 23: video online. They've said that they're going to do this,
Speaker 23: this and this, or they know agree with this or
Speaker 23: don't agree with this, and it's like, oh, that was
Speaker 23: not me. I never ever once did that. It's scary
Speaker 23: how real it is. There are ways you can pick
Speaker 23: up whether it's real or not, but you need to
Speaker 23: understand the technology to do that. Most people don't. And
Speaker 23: working as a voice actor, because I'm a voice actor too,
Speaker 23: Working as a voice actor AI is one of the
Speaker 23: biggest issues in that industry. So it's not a good
Speaker 23: thing for anyone.
Speaker 2: So if somebody could take your voice without your permission
Speaker 2: and use it, yeah, correct. Yes, you also told me
Speaker 2: when we discussed that we were going to talk about
Speaker 2: this on the program that you were concerned about a
Speaker 2: I generated porno or nude pictures at the very least
Speaker 2: of high school girls in particular, and how disastrous it
Speaker 2: can be for them.
Speaker 23: Yep, yeah, I think. Well, I've read on the news
Speaker 23: recently there's been a couple of instances where footage has
Speaker 23: been leaked around schools or university campuses of particular women,
Speaker 23: and those women it was not them in that footage.
Speaker 23: It was their face, but it was not their body.
Speaker 23: And a lot of these pornographic sides are created by
Speaker 23: males and distributed to other males. And the scary part
Speaker 23: was the only reason why this particular person found out
Speaker 23: about it was somebody she knew had seen it and
Speaker 23: brought it to her attention, and she had no idea
Speaker 23: that that was happening. And that's the scary part. If
Speaker 23: you if you know someone that sees it, great, they
Speaker 23: can bring it to your attention. But if you don't know,
Speaker 23: you've got your face on someone else's body c circulating
Speaker 23: around god knows where, that's scary. That is really scary.
Speaker 17: You know.
Speaker 2: In years gone by, a couple of my more ardent
Speaker 2: I suppose female listeners thinking it through have sent me photographs.
Speaker 2: I know it's them, but the photograph has only been
Speaker 2: from the shoulders down naked I'm talking about. But that
Speaker 2: wouldn't save them, now, would it.
Speaker 23: No, it's not hard to DoPT something like that.
Speaker 2: Well, that's right, And so I guess they're thinking, Okay,
Speaker 2: you know if he shows it to somebody else, do
Speaker 2: somebody else won't know it's me. But now you can
Speaker 2: basically create what you like and just toying around with AI.
Speaker 2: You know, the other day Dale was generating a picture
Speaker 2: of Vladimir Putin writing a unicorn and Dale and Dale indeed,
Speaker 2: but it was so easy to do.
Speaker 3: Miss It was.
Speaker 23: Because there's a lot of programs, and look, I'm not
Speaker 23: dissing the programs. I use a lot of AI programs.
Speaker 23: I love Chat GTP, I'm a massive fan of it,
Speaker 23: and I also like the video content, so I use
Speaker 23: Canvra a lot, and there is an AI option in Canbra.
Speaker 23: But I think it all comes down to the integrity behind,
Speaker 23: like of the person using the app. If you're going
Speaker 23: to do it for good's you going to use it
Speaker 23: for something like work related or something like that, I
Speaker 23: think it's fine. But as soon as you start using
Speaker 23: it for something that's going to damage someone's reputation, I
Speaker 23: think there needs to be something in place for that.
Speaker 23: And I can just imagine that the FEDS would be
Speaker 23: up to their eyeballs and how the hell are we
Speaker 23: going to manage this? Like, how are we going to
Speaker 23: how are you going to legalize or make these things
Speaker 23: illegal and actually manage it. From that standpoint, I don't
Speaker 23: think you can. It's too much.
Speaker 2: Okay, So you think the idea is good, but you
Speaker 2: don't think it's possible to pull it off.
Speaker 23: I don't think it's possible to pull it off. I
Speaker 23: think the idea is good, though.
Speaker 2: Heah, all right, thanks Nicole. Thanks Mike Nicole Senior, who's
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