WEBVTT - Overnights with Mike Jeffreys - Monday 23rd June

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<v Speaker 1>On two GB four BC and network stations. This is

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<v Speaker 1>our Stranger overnight with my Jeffreys.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning here, it is Monday, well it's Monday, and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of places, not everywhere that we go to,

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<v Speaker 2>but lots of places anyway. The plan is to be

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<v Speaker 2>here for five and a half hours left seven and

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<v Speaker 2>a half minutes, and I would like to encourage some discussion.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I do. Are You're welcome to send me

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<v Speaker 2>a text if you want to do that. Zero four

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<v Speaker 2>six zero eight seven three eight seven three. And I

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<v Speaker 2>read them out well, mostly mostly if I'm running out

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<v Speaker 2>of time. Sometimes I overlook them, but I do read them,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just don't always have a time to read

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<v Speaker 2>them on their But this time of the morning, we

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<v Speaker 2>should be fine. If you want to send me a text.

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<v Speaker 2>We can build up little backlock of those if you

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<v Speaker 2>choose to do so. But I encourage people to ring

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<v Speaker 2>and talk. You know, we can converse that way. I

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<v Speaker 2>have been known to throw in my own two cents worth,

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<v Speaker 2>but generally speaking, I'm interested in parading views and opinions.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you have either of those and you want

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<v Speaker 2>to call with it, give me a ring one three

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<v Speaker 2>one eight seven three what to talk about? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about the Middle East? I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 2>the courier mail tabloid headline here Don goes nuclear US

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<v Speaker 2>forces bracing for retaliation after bold move by President. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you want to talk about the president's move? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have to talk about that. We can talk

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<v Speaker 2>about something near at home. I try and keep the

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<v Speaker 2>discussion general, you know, because the program goes to different

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<v Speaker 2>parts all over. But if you have an opinion on

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on in the Middle East, of course you're

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to call with it. But if you've got something

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<v Speaker 2>else you want to discuss, you know me, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>servant of the people. I'll be guided by what people

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about. But as far as comment on

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening and getting all the news coverage, I noted

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of comments in the mainstream media. There's lots

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<v Speaker 2>of comments in the alternative media as well, but certainly

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<v Speaker 2>in the mainstream. He's an angry man, Shannon Cummings. He says,

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<v Speaker 2>in part, a nation that once contributed blood and steel

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<v Speaker 2>to the preservation of the West now offers only minerals.

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<v Speaker 2>He's talking about the Australian government. Of course, He says,

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<v Speaker 2>we sell lithium to the Chinese Communist Party by day,

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<v Speaker 2>and by night beg Washington for protection from the monster

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<v Speaker 2>we feed. Shannon says, this is not sovereignty, It's serfdom

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<v Speaker 2>with delusions of grandeur, and history will not forget it.

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<v Speaker 2>It will not forget that when Israel faced annihilation, Camber

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<v Speaker 2>shows caution over clarity. It will remember that when the

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<v Speaker 2>world needed allies, Australia offered ambiguity, that when the West

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<v Speaker 2>needed strength, it got a sermon from Wong. Australia has

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<v Speaker 2>become the whimpering cousin at the family table of civilization,

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<v Speaker 2>reaping the benefits of bravery long past while resenting those

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<v Speaker 2>who still bear the burden of action. What do you

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<v Speaker 2>think he's another thought? Pressure will build on Albanesi to

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<v Speaker 2>either back US action or explain why he doesn't. Will

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<v Speaker 2>that work or do you think he'll just keep twisting

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<v Speaker 2>and turning and saying not me, I didn't do it

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<v Speaker 2>somebody else. See this one by Simon Benson says the

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<v Speaker 2>lack of even implicit support from the alban Ezi GUPN

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<v Speaker 2>for the US strikes on Around's nuclear facilities marks a

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<v Speaker 2>further deterioration in the political relationship between Canberra and Washington.

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<v Speaker 2>The deafening silence will doubtless be noticed by the Trump administration,

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<v Speaker 2>but it will hardly surprise. Australia's foreign policy under the

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<v Speaker 2>Albanese government appears to have collapsed to the point of

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<v Speaker 2>serving little more than a domestic purpose, I think, and

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<v Speaker 2>Simon doesn't go on any more detail on that, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a very telling observation. Collapse to the

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<v Speaker 2>point of serving little more than a domestic purpose. See.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the great cliches is all politics is local.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yes, no, yeah, no, maybe, but yes, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's very much local. There are people here who, have

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt, helped the Albanesi government to assume the position

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<v Speaker 2>that they have after the recent election, and Penny and

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<v Speaker 2>Elbow don't offend them. It's been suggested that the joint

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<v Speaker 2>Australian and United States naval communications station, the Northwest Cape Facility,

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<v Speaker 2>could and would have likely been involved in communications involving

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<v Speaker 2>Tomahawk missile launchers from US submarines during the operation. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I'll divert here from what Simon has to say, because

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<v Speaker 2>I've been just reading him up till now. And ask,

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<v Speaker 2>have you seen mister Shubridge in his comments, you know

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<v Speaker 2>that we should well I'm paraphrasing, but he's saying we

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<v Speaker 2>should totally disown what Donald Trump has done, de escalate

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, you know, people say war's awful. I don't disagree.

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<v Speaker 2>The Great Civil War General William to comes. As Sherman said,

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<v Speaker 2>war is cruelty. The best thing you can do is

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<v Speaker 2>end it as quickly as you can. But if it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to the point where another nation invades, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you do? What do you do, mister Shubridge? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>just surrender the real estate and learn a new language?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the answer? Anyway? I'm talking about it a

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<v Speaker 2>Greeney here, and it's not necessarily. There are a lot

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with the real world. However, I would hope

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<v Speaker 2>that the two major parties, although we've got one major

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<v Speaker 2>and one used to be a major party at the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>that they would have more experience of the real world.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think the reality is that they don't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been watching the Passing Parade for a while and

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<v Speaker 2>spoken to a few players during that time, and it

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<v Speaker 2>seems to me we are now at a point and

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<v Speaker 2>this doesn't apply just to politics, but certainly to politics

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<v Speaker 2>in this country that we have people who are good

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<v Speaker 2>at playing internal politics, but when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 2>real world, not much sign of any understanding there. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>people who don't really know me have said that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a conservative. Conservative to me means sticking to the old ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I don't really think that's me, but I do

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<v Speaker 2>like to think that I'm a pragmatist. And if you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a pragmatist in Australian government, who do

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<v Speaker 2>you choose? As A G. Gankowski said on this program

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<v Speaker 2>a few weeks ago, do you choose China or the US? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the people who represent US at these international conventions, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when they can get a meeting, which is noways the case,

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<v Speaker 2>they are well, as a couple of commentators in the

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<v Speaker 2>mainstream media have said, ambiguous at best. So anyway, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you think you've got a view? Do you care

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<v Speaker 2>about that or would you rather talk about something closer

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<v Speaker 2>to home. I'm going to talk to Dr Marney later

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<v Speaker 2>on about what's described as the bathroom divorce. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>real real grassroots problems. When you're Darling leaves the bathroom

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<v Speaker 2>in such a mess, we can talk about that. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of other things I've got in mind. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell you what I did think was pretty good, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's getting some plaudits for it, as they say in

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<v Speaker 2>the media. Shadow Home Affairs Minister Andrew Hasty has been

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<v Speaker 2>commended for his response to a heckler who interrupted his

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<v Speaker 2>speech following US strikes and Iran. There's a lady with

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<v Speaker 2>a head covering who was kind of shrieking something in

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<v Speaker 2>the background. But he said, well, free countries, she's allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to say what she likes. And well, when we say free,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean free ish. But I thought he did that

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<v Speaker 2>pretty well. You know, if you're going to go into

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<v Speaker 2>public life, not everybody will agree with you, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>the people who don't agree with you an't always polite

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<v Speaker 2>about it. They can be quite rude food and their

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<v Speaker 2>comments can be ill timed. But anyway, I thought Hasty

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<v Speaker 2>dealt with it pretty well. But if you've got an

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<v Speaker 2>observation you'd like to make, give me a ring one

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<v Speaker 2>three one eight seven three or send me a text,

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<v Speaker 2>or you can send me an email if you like.

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<v Speaker 2>Just send it to Overnights at two GB dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a comment from an anonymous individual who says Shuebridge

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<v Speaker 2>is a moron with no understanding of geopolitics and the

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<v Speaker 2>threats that could arise. Well, you could say that, and

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<v Speaker 2>you did. Mix says good Morning, Assassin Morning Mick, Ruddy

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<v Speaker 2>and Elbow's remarks about the Trumpster weren't forgotten by the

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<v Speaker 2>President when the PM was snubbed at the G seven. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Albow says, Mick is showing how weak he is again.

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<v Speaker 2>He must have secretly been happy when the meeting with

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<v Speaker 2>Trump was called off. Yes, just verging from mixed comments,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people seem to say that, you know, boy,

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<v Speaker 2>he certainly did one when he didn't get the meeting

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<v Speaker 2>with Trump, although supposedly then tried again. But that hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>happened either, and it's all been overtaken by events. As

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<v Speaker 2>they say. Uh, Mick says, I reckon he's scared of Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Mick from Winston Hills what he thinks. Tony says,

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's own supporters like Owen's, Carlson and Bannon are calling

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<v Speaker 2>bs on him starting a war and Iran. Trump broke

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<v Speaker 2>his promise of no new wars. Well, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't be pedantic, but he didn't actually say no new wars.

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<v Speaker 2>He said though, that America wouldn't get involved in any

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<v Speaker 2>overseas wars. Uh. Fred has called in from Campbelltown. Good morning, Fred,

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<v Speaker 2>good morning, good morning.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it morning already?

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<v Speaker 2>Well it is here. What's the different time zone in Campbelltown?

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<v Speaker 2>Is what you're saying. Fred?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Look, I'm fairly old, and I just can't understand

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<v Speaker 3>what way the Western world it's like Donald Trump. They've

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<v Speaker 3>condemned him in the courts saying that he both this

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<v Speaker 3>fat and the other the West world are the only

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<v Speaker 3>ones that have got to abide by these rules when

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<v Speaker 3>Russia has clearly defined all rules there. Everybody else ignores

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<v Speaker 3>what the rules.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, of course we have the situation with the UN, which,

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, is as weak as you know what

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<v Speaker 2>UH and Russia or China con veto. So, but the

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<v Speaker 2>UN has always been useless as long as we've known them.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, our government's not much bloody better.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't say our government was any better, Fred.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, listen, they may will join the opposition, because that's

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<v Speaker 3>where we're heading.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people said that, but they usually complain

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<v Speaker 2>about the Liberal Party and say the Liberal Party is

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<v Speaker 2>just labor light and we have the uni party system.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what some people say. Other people say. People who

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<v Speaker 2>say that are in the fringes, but it happens.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, look, I'm not totally in favor of the Liberal

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<v Speaker 3>Party altogether, because that's half the reason we shall our

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<v Speaker 3>stuff off and paybe prices, you know, but where I'm

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<v Speaker 3>certainly not.

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<v Speaker 2>You're talking about the pathetic gas deals for the East Coast,

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<v Speaker 2>that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, all that.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to get rid of the bloody Greens Party

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<v Speaker 3>and then you then neither party will have anything to

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<v Speaker 3>bloody stand on.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the encouraging picture that you paint, Fred, but

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<v Speaker 2>I understand why you might see it the way you done.

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<v Speaker 3>On nearly eighty years of age. And I'm going through

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<v Speaker 3>labor when labor was a good party.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then then when was that? When did they

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<v Speaker 2>stop being a good party labor? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Back in the early days, mate. I worked in the

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<v Speaker 3>calm once years.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So what are you talking about? You're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the forties fifties to about GoF Whitlam. What are you

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<v Speaker 2>talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well, I'm I was born just after the depression, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've seen a lot of things happen, and we

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<v Speaker 3>got the Greens Party there. Some of their ideas are

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<v Speaker 3>all right, but this business of closed us down, shutting

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<v Speaker 3>us down, We've got no power, no nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't make any sense at any level. Fred. But

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<v Speaker 2>I presume that there's something going on to which we

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<v Speaker 2>are not privy, as they say that driving our ridiculous

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<v Speaker 2>renewables approach, which hasn't worked anywhere else.

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<v Speaker 3>Mate, we're already if you have a look how free

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<v Speaker 3>we were back in the sixties and seventies. In the eighties, well,

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<v Speaker 3>not so much the eighties, but we were free. We

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<v Speaker 3>could walk down the street with a gun, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in hardware shop.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd see people on the tram with the rifle. Apparently, yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got a farm and I can't even get a

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<v Speaker 3>license for bloody gun to shoot the bloody animals. For

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<v Speaker 3>the foxes are killing the sheep.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw the premiere talking about that recently. He wants

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<v Speaker 2>to free it up for professional hunters and make it

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<v Speaker 2>attractive to them by having a bounty on you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the feral foxes and goats and cats and all those things.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that would work?

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<v Speaker 3>The only trouble is, mate, there's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>that weren't. Oh well, even people in Australia. They go

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<v Speaker 3>up and they think they're in more War bloody three.

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<v Speaker 3>They're shooting shooting birds o the threes and everything. You've

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<v Speaker 3>got to have a decent You've got to know who's

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<v Speaker 3>doing the shooting.

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<v Speaker 2>You know who's got the gun, who's.

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<v Speaker 3>Got the guns? Well, all the criminals have got the guns. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>to protect myself with.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, all those changes they made really only applied to

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<v Speaker 2>the reasonably law abiding, which is so off in the case. Anyway, Fred,

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate your call, have a good morning.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much for having listening to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Okay, bye, see your Fred. Uh John has

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<v Speaker 2>called in from where did we decide? Cogger? Good John?

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<v Speaker 6>Now?

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<v Speaker 7>Might I usually usually five I am every morning. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>listening to you before photo gets on on there. But

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<v Speaker 7>I'm just just off by memory. Just before we had

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<v Speaker 7>the elections, new cir fales Chrismins came to the hospital

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<v Speaker 7>up here at Saint George at eleven pm.

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<v Speaker 2>In the night.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm going to fix all this. I'm going to get

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<v Speaker 7>more doctors, no more nurses, emergencies all hours and everything

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<v Speaker 7>been sitting here five and a half hours on there,

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<v Speaker 7>five and a half hours, and there's another twenty five

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<v Speaker 7>people in front.

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<v Speaker 8>There was an hour ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that right? And so why are you waiting to

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<v Speaker 2>see the doctor? John, I'm not waiting.

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<v Speaker 7>I've brought somebody in with a crooked leg and that's

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<v Speaker 7>that's That's how long I've been waiting outside. There's no

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<v Speaker 7>way I'm going to wait inside with all the germs

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<v Speaker 7>and everything on there. Mate, he came out here, he said,

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<v Speaker 7>we're going to put more nurses, more doctors. So on

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<v Speaker 7>eleven thirty in the night, he came out just to

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<v Speaker 7>make a blood impression on it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what happens.

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<v Speaker 7>Everyone said, it's worse, not nowhere near it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So you know politicians promises promises, So he really

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't mate, Yeah, Hello, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Mike.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I mean, I don't think it's just the

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<v Speaker 7>only hospital. I mean all the others, the same thing

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<v Speaker 7>on them, all the all the money it should be

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<v Speaker 7>gone into more doctors, more nurses, watch them open, even

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<v Speaker 7>open the some of the private ones. Let the private

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<v Speaker 7>hospitals take some of the load up on their pay

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<v Speaker 7>him on there. If he had five billion dollars to

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<v Speaker 7>fork out for rose Hill race Course. I'm sure he

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<v Speaker 7>could bloody use it for all that too, m hm.

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<v Speaker 2>And deal with the more immediate issues.

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<v Speaker 9>Five billion.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, well he was gonna fork out five billion dollars

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<v Speaker 7>for that Rosehill race course remember a couple of weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, well he's a knock back. Presumably if he

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't got the knock back, as you say, then it

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<v Speaker 2>would have gone ahead. Yeah. Well, John, I hope this

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<v Speaker 2>is your friend or a family member that you've taken

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<v Speaker 2>to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, yeah, friend on there like I mean nothing,

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<v Speaker 7>what's the name? But you got to wait in the Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>have no choice on it. You can't just budge in

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<v Speaker 7>and say, look, do my leg. Don't worry about the

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<v Speaker 7>other thirty five people then yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Too many people, not enough services to provide adequate in

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<v Speaker 2>this case healthcare. Yes, on there, so I understand John

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<v Speaker 2>is there? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 9>There would have went through a lot quicker, wouldn't I.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, indeed, if they had more doctors without applies to

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<v Speaker 2>so many places as you say. Anyway, John, I hope

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to wait too much longer. But thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for calling this morning.

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<v Speaker 7>No worries, no worries, all of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Take it easy. I suppose we should play some commercials,

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<v Speaker 2>and is called in from tarn Point. Good morning, Anne.

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<v Speaker 10>Hello.

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<v Speaker 11>No, I don't know whether it's interesting to you past

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<v Speaker 11>last Sunday night. You're talking on the phone to somebody,

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<v Speaker 11>and I don't know what you're talking about. That you

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<v Speaker 11>mentioned that the show Would I Lie to You?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 12>Do you remember that?

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<v Speaker 11>And you watch it?

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<v Speaker 5>Obviously you watch it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I love it.

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<v Speaker 11>That's one of my favorite shows because they're so clever.

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<v Speaker 11>But you said to this person, it's canned laughter, and

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<v Speaker 11>it's still a real audience.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't notice it so much with Would I Lie

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<v Speaker 2>to You. Where I really notice it is with the

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<v Speaker 2>show that's on before it sometimes Q and I Q

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<v Speaker 2>I q I or whatever it is. But I don't

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<v Speaker 2>notice it so much with Would I Lie to You,

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<v Speaker 2>Although sometimes I think they could mike the contributors a

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<v Speaker 2>bit better. But I really enjoy that show because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if I'm being naive, and but it looks

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<v Speaker 2>to me like the people they get on really can

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<v Speaker 2>add lib. And people who can add lib are the

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<v Speaker 2>ones that impress me. There's some clever people that come

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<v Speaker 2>out with prepared material, you know, like Dave Chappelle and

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<v Speaker 2>Jimmy Carr and people like that. Well, although Jimmy Carr

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<v Speaker 2>is a very good ad liber it's really he ad

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<v Speaker 2>libs that impress me rather than the prepared material.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, me too.

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<v Speaker 11>They're so clever, Yeah, well, I mean David Mitchell, he's

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<v Speaker 11>clever in a different way that Li Mac is very clever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 11>I've been watching The Chef that's up to season eighteen,

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<v Speaker 11>and I know they have an audience because I've seen them.

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<v Speaker 11>Sometimes I bring somebody out of the audience for some reason,

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<v Speaker 11>it has happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I know they have an audience. I've seen the audience.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, yes, because I do watch it quite a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>But the other one I think is worse for the

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<v Speaker 2>cand laughter. But did I say that? Did I include

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<v Speaker 2>what I lie to you and that comment about the

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<v Speaker 2>caned laughter? Do I?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, she didn't.

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<v Speaker 13>That's what you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you think? Do you think it sounds canned?

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<v Speaker 14>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean just because they've got a live audience doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean to say they don't augment it.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, they could do that. But you know, did you

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<v Speaker 11>see the one where lean back said he'd gone to

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<v Speaker 11>Prince Terry's wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I can't remember what their punchline was.

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<v Speaker 2>What was that about?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, they did show well he said he's been invited

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<v Speaker 11>to the wedding and the wedding was on that day.

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<v Speaker 11>And then Rob Brydon says, well, audience is the wedding?

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<v Speaker 11>Is the wedding on today? And the audience all said you,

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<v Speaker 11>So I thought, well, I think it didn't seem like

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<v Speaker 11>it was dubbed or anything. It seems so real. But

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<v Speaker 11>I've also seen I've also seen it when I know,

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<v Speaker 11>iscrotably boring to you, but i've seen it when they've

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<v Speaker 11>dragged a woman under the audience or a few times,

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<v Speaker 11>this particular one with she had this horrible bright cardigan

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<v Speaker 11>or jumper or something and they're talking about a terrible

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<v Speaker 11>taste in clothes. Will you know.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, she was happy.

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<v Speaker 11>To come on. It was It's a very clever show.

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<v Speaker 11>But I just wanted to teach you right if you

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<v Speaker 11>were wrong, But she probably won't that to me, it's

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<v Speaker 11>not Kent, it's real.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they do have a real audience. I'll have to

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<v Speaker 2>listen to it again to confirm whether I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's overdone, but I do notice it, particularly on the

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<v Speaker 2>other show, and I find it annoying, but I do

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy that. Would I lie to you for the reasons

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<v Speaker 2>I've just given? Yeah, well we can agree.

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<v Speaker 15>On that evolution.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah okay.

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<v Speaker 11>Then well I just thought I've been thinking about this

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<v Speaker 11>all week, and well I really want to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 10>It's probably too.

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<v Speaker 11>Boy, no, no, if okay, then thanks for listening.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. An If people don't tell me where I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going wrong, how will I ever grow? Helen's called in

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<v Speaker 2>from Cale, good morning. How I'll tell you when you

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<v Speaker 2>were Thank you, Helen.

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<v Speaker 13>Oh that's all right, no problems. I was listening to that.

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<v Speaker 13>I've the day's gone very quick. I've been interested in

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<v Speaker 13>all of this thing with the bombing in Iran and

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<v Speaker 13>just how clever it was. But it was interesting when

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<v Speaker 13>over my head this stupid statement. It all went over

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<v Speaker 13>my head, but it was interesting to listen to that

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<v Speaker 13>general say how they did it, and it was just amazing.

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<v Speaker 13>And the one thing that I did take in about

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<v Speaker 13>it was the precision. No one knew about it, and

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<v Speaker 13>just how fabulous and fabulously trained are their navy Army

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<v Speaker 13>and Air Force and those big bombers, and the the

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<v Speaker 13>bombers had the big bunker bomb of things in it

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<v Speaker 13>that was going to go down in the mountain, that

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<v Speaker 13>was refueled six times in the air, and then they

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<v Speaker 13>had at a certain time three jet bombers had to

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<v Speaker 13>follow it to make sure no one was going to

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<v Speaker 13>hit that. Say to speak, but it was all but yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw that in the vision following to look after it.

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<v Speaker 2>But love it or hate it, or love it, love

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing. I hated that the main bomber is

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<v Speaker 2>a spectacular piece of machinery.

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<v Speaker 13>Oh god, do you know what. I just think that

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<v Speaker 13>it was. I was just fascinated all day. But the

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<v Speaker 13>thing that I got angry about was that. And we've

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<v Speaker 13>seen it in the last couple of weeks about three

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<v Speaker 13>or four times, where in you run and with that

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<v Speaker 13>leader that and he's got all these worshipers and they're

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<v Speaker 13>saying death to America and death to England. And I

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<v Speaker 13>do believe that if they had a nuclear weapon, they

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<v Speaker 13>would use it. And I just I do believe that.

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<v Speaker 13>And I just think that you got all these countries

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<v Speaker 13>and these people say, oh, oh, what'sn't that awful? Oh,

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<v Speaker 13>it was just terrible. I thought, well, why don't you

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<v Speaker 13>just what if they didn't do anything and then you

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<v Speaker 13>were bombed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's interesting that you got as much detail about

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<v Speaker 2>the technicals of it, because I've been watching it for

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<v Speaker 2>hours yesterday, and what I mainly seem to get was

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<v Speaker 2>people commentating on whether or not Trump did the right

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<v Speaker 2>thing and what's likely to occur now, where I was

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<v Speaker 2>really interested in confirming the technical details, because those bombs

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<v Speaker 2>you talk about, the first one supposedly can dig into

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<v Speaker 2>the mountain to a depth of a bit over sixty meters.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they attempt or succeed succeed I guess according to

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump, they drop the next one in the same hole,

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<v Speaker 2>so it'll go in another sixty meters. But of course,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, who do you believe in all this? Trump said,

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<v Speaker 2>that was a perfectly executed exercise, and watch yourself. I

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<v Speaker 2>will do even worse. But then of course the Iranians

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<v Speaker 2>are saying, oh, it wasn't a big deal really, But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I would just like to see some confirmation.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you get it, but some real

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<v Speaker 2>confirmation of exactly what went on and the main one

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<v Speaker 2>did they actually wipe it out totally. But as for

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<v Speaker 2>what they would do with the bomber, I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the extremists there who follow the Ayatollah with their medieval

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<v Speaker 2>value system. I mean, they're pretty much death cultren't they'd

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<v Speaker 2>be happy bomb the rest of the world, even if

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<v Speaker 2>it meant they wipe themselves out so they could go

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<v Speaker 2>to paradise.

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<v Speaker 13>Yes, well, that's right, and I think they would use it.

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<v Speaker 13>And I was just fascinated with this general. As I said,

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<v Speaker 13>a lot of it did go over my head, but

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<v Speaker 13>I was surprised what I.

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<v Speaker 12>Did pick up about it.

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<v Speaker 13>But they had six of those big bombs. They six. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 13>I just and I feel sorry for the Israel we've got.

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<v Speaker 13>I can't stand our government here. The last three years

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:36.920
<v Speaker 13>have been this country is so we don't have anything

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 13>about anything. We're really just on the edge of becoming

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:46.359
<v Speaker 13>Third world to a large degree, and we've got Shuebridge

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:52.439
<v Speaker 13>and all these rap bags saying stupid things. But I

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:56.119
<v Speaker 13>don't know, it just leaves me, leaves me speechless. He

0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:58.720
<v Speaker 13>hasn't opened his mouth this Alban easy.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I think Albo acquitted himself well in

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 2>the previous election because he obviously had a smart team

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:15.160
<v Speaker 2>behind him. First of all, Albow knows how to play

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 2>the internal politics and what I've heard over the years,

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 2>he's been doing that for a long time and that's

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:22.439
<v Speaker 2>got him into the position where he is. But the

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:25.920
<v Speaker 2>team behind him, I thought a lot of what they

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:29.159
<v Speaker 2>did was really basic, and I was surprised that people

0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:33.560
<v Speaker 2>ate it up the way they did. But then the opposition,

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 2>the Coalition was so pathetic in so many ways.

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<v Speaker 13>Yes, yes, no, they were pathetic. But I've never liked him.

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:48.440
<v Speaker 13>I think he's a weak man and we're getting worse

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 13>and worse and worse, and honestly, can you imagine where

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 13>we're going to be in another three or six years.

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 13>I don't know how we can get rid of them.

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 13>We got rid of Wickram. I don't know why we can't.

0:28:58.720 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 10>Get rid of this bloke.

0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 13>Because they're destroying our energy and our electricity.

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I know, it's just ridiculous what they're doing there.

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 2>But uh, you know, he did he did do well

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 2>during the campaign. I must say I was interested because

0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 2>my immediate visceral, as they say, reaction when I first

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 2>saw Albot get the gig being head of the party

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 2>was the same as Tucker Carlson's. Did you know Tucker Carlson.

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 13>Said, Oh, yes, I know he.

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Said this little spiv.

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 13>Hmm, yeah, that's that's exactly right. And why would Trump

0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 13>want to talk to him? I mean, why, of good

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 13>serve would anybody want to talk to him? I just

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 13>don't get it. And what did he do anyway? Show

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 13>a little grain card? I mean, what a tweet?

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 2>But it worked for them that, you know, the really

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 2>blunt advertising and the big money giveaway really worked for them.

0:29:58.960 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 13>I did.

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:02.440
<v Speaker 2>I know. Also, I know I understand exploiting the system too,

0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 2>because you know, the first preference votes were only thirty

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 2>four percent, but with the preferential system, there he is.

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 13>And I know, dear, I don't know. Anyway, it was

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 13>all interesting in the day, Flew. I found it interesting already.

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, helly bye bye. Dennis from Maruba has sent

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 2>me an email morning. Dennis says, I think Lee mack

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:32.440
<v Speaker 2>of would I lie to you and others as the

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 2>fastest comedian marine on the planet on your mic? Yeah,

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 2>thank you Dennis. He is. He's very good and the

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 2>guy that leads the opposing teams. I saw him doing

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:47.080
<v Speaker 2>an acting job the other day and he's quite different.

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 2>But they're both very good. But Lee Mack's hosting something else,

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 2>isn't he And he also does acting work as well,

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 2>So it's interesting to me that he can be an

0:30:57.640 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 2>actor and also apparently ad lib the way he does. Yeah,

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 2>I like to watch that show. I think it's very

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 2>impressive with what they did. Steve from Capalaba says Mike.

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 2>I think Albow will squirm in the gray area of ambiguity,

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 2>the gray area of ambiguity, as long as he can.

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 2>But Trump's in office for the next four years and

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Albow can't hide that long. The US must be losing

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:26.040
<v Speaker 2>patients with Australia being on the wrong side of their

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 2>foreign policy in Western values. I think Orcus is in

0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 2>dire straits, says Steve, and our failure to be a

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 2>reliable ally has not gone unnoticed. We're on thin ice,

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 2>That's how Steve sees it. Now. I actually found an

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 2>opposing view here. Oh yeah, here we go. Maria says, well, Mike,

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 2>you can thank the genocidal state of Israel for reigniting

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 2>this all over again, same playbook as before, just like

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 2>with Iraq and the fabricated WMDs that led to a

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 2>forever war where so many people like their lives. What

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 2>a terrible mistake, says Maria. Anyway, if you've got a view,

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:07.840
<v Speaker 2>you're welcome to put it. You can give me a

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 2>ring or send me a text. Now we decided to

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 2>go to Chris from laylog. Good morning Chris.

0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:16.160
<v Speaker 6>Hi.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, Mike, Tucker Carson, who gives you I'm here his

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 15>name coming.

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 9>Up a lot.

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Tucker Carlson, you've never seen. He was the big drawer

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 2>card on Fox, had enormous viewership, enormous ratings. But there

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 2>are various stories about why they gave him the sack.

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:43.320
<v Speaker 2>There were stories about him going as part of a

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 2>settlement to somebody who sued them for millions or billions

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 2>or whatever it was. But anyway, it was an interesting story,

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 2>particularly with normal American values, because the guy did have

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 2>such big viewership. But he's gone, but he's still in

0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 2>demand to make comment and I think he runs a

0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 2>podcast something that he was out. He was out here

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 2>in this country. I didn't see him. Midell Tommy, he

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 2>went to see him.

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 15>Look, he's like most of the others over on American media.

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 15>I've got no time for them. I think they're just

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:18.240
<v Speaker 15>heightened spinner fake news. And the big one was that

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 15>one who who came over here with a plane with

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 15>full of her supporters. Look, I really don't have time

0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 15>for these people. I don't think they contribute anything other

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:31.760
<v Speaker 15>than the entertainment. And in regards to what your previous

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 15>call of thought said about what's happened now, I don't

0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 15>think it's going to be the same as what happened

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 15>in Iraq or in Afghanistan.

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 2>But look, what do you think is going to happen? Chris?

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 2>What do you what do you foresee?

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 15>I leave that for a bit later maybe, But look.

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 2>Chris, Chris, Chris, you're going to have to we've had

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 2>this discussion. You need to finish your sentences and make

0:33:57.320 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 2>it clear what you're talking about, because you have this

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:02.959
<v Speaker 2>but of saying what about so and so? You raised

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:05.719
<v Speaker 2>the idea, but then you don't go through with whatever

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:08.319
<v Speaker 2>it is that makes you as bad as well some

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 2>of the politicians.

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:13.360
<v Speaker 15>I can go through with whatever I say if someone

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 15>wants me to go back on to that, all right,

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:17.879
<v Speaker 15>So that's not an issue. Look, I've got a couple

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 15>of points.

0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:18.840
<v Speaker 3>Mate.

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 2>You just did it again.

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:24.320
<v Speaker 15>I'm not going to have the time to go through everything,

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:26.880
<v Speaker 15>and it's a bit frustrating trying to say what I

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 15>want to say and make my points learn. But look,

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 15>I'll give it another shot of you. Now, I think

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 15>that I heard what a previous call has said about

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 15>that general. He gave a fairy detailed explanation for all

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:44.319
<v Speaker 15>that was said during the day from the rest of

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 15>the news media. There was nothing there but what the

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:50.400
<v Speaker 15>general said. He got into it and gave a description

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 15>of how it happened. But they basically they got in there,

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 15>they bombed the place before Iran knew what was happening.

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 15>Was pretty good. Now, what I also heard was you

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:08.880
<v Speaker 15>made some mention of Andrew Hasty. Yes, I'm just wondering

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 15>how did Heckler know what he was going to talk

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:14.880
<v Speaker 15>about to heckle him? How would you know where he

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:17.320
<v Speaker 15>was and what he was going to I'm just wondering

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 15>whether she'd been set up by label, she's paid by labor,

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 15>anything going passed him. What do you reckon?

0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, that hadn't occurred to me. I just thought that

0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:30.360
<v Speaker 2>she was somebody who turned up at the meeting. I

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 2>don't know how she heard about it, what she was expecting.

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 2>You thought she was a labor stooge. Do you think

0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:37.239
<v Speaker 2>she was that organized?

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:41.719
<v Speaker 15>I don't know. I knew what she was saying. She

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:45.600
<v Speaker 15>was interrupting what Andrew was saying. And you Hasten made

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 15>a bit more political experience to handle these people, to

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 15>talk to many interviews. I wanted to hear the questions

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:56.960
<v Speaker 15>from the media because I feel the media today in

0:35:57.000 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 15>Australia a week but I couldn't hear the question because

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 15>I have that woman, you know, yeah, yeah, over the

0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:08.719
<v Speaker 15>top of them. And I did hear Andrew Hasty's response,

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:12.880
<v Speaker 15>But to me, I don't think. I don't have an

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:15.800
<v Speaker 15>issue with what he said. I don't have an issue

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:18.800
<v Speaker 15>with what Susan Lee said. What I have an issue

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:22.440
<v Speaker 15>with is what Alba and Juan didn't say. Okay, they've

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 15>avoided saying anything about this for some reason, but well

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:29.719
<v Speaker 15>I know the reason. I just suspect I know the reason.

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:35.360
<v Speaker 15>But to me, you who are with He says that

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:39.120
<v Speaker 15>Alba doesn't even know what urr an ally is. He

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:42.279
<v Speaker 15>talks about it, but he doesn't understand it. I think

0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 15>he's been indoculated too much by by the Communist Party.

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:50.319
<v Speaker 15>But look to me for someone who's spent a lifetime

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 15>in politics. I'm saying this openly now. Albat is such

0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:59.439
<v Speaker 15>a fool. He doesn't know what he's talking about. He's

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 15>never got to feel good to say about about America.

0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:06.560
<v Speaker 15>But he's trying to hide that, and I don't like it.

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:09.319
<v Speaker 15>Just come out straight who you are, what you are,

0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:11.320
<v Speaker 15>what you want to say, and get it out there.

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that'd be good. Yes, if only people would do that. Yeah,

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 2>you get to the point, follow through on what they say. Yes, No,

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 2>that'd be great. I agree. All right, Chris. Thanks. Let

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 2>me talk to Jack from Campbelltown Morning Jack.

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<v Speaker 8>Mike, Yeah, what are you working about that?

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 3>I an thing?

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:35.319
<v Speaker 8>Does that not? Remember? You are the weapons of mass destructions?

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:36.799
<v Speaker 2>You know you think it's like that.

0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 8>Well, don't you think so? You're an intelligent guy.

0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:48.919
<v Speaker 2>I honestly, I honestly don't know. But I can only

0:37:49.000 --> 0:37:51.759
<v Speaker 2>go on you know, what's available to everybody else. I

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:55.520
<v Speaker 2>don't have any special insight. As I said, I'm curious

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:59.799
<v Speaker 2>about whether it was as effective as Trump says it was.

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:03.319
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people think it was the right thing

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 2>to do. Other people don't think it was. They're like you,

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:08.840
<v Speaker 2>they say, what about weapons of mass destruction.

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:12.080
<v Speaker 8>Yeah yeah, I mean there are no effects. You know

0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:14.600
<v Speaker 8>that I that I had the atomic bomb, were working

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 8>on it the same thing like before. You know, it's

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 8>all of a peat like history repeats themselves.

0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Well not entirely. I mean somebody on my screens making

0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:26.479
<v Speaker 2>a point which I've already read that apparently to use

0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:30.520
<v Speaker 2>nuclear power for peaceful means you only need to enrich

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 2>whatever you're using to three percent, whereas they enriched it

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:37.080
<v Speaker 2>to sixty percent. So they're getting pretty close to bomb stag.

0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:40.960
<v Speaker 8>I know that might Now this bump which I used,

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:44.160
<v Speaker 8>I used it in Afghanistan. Don't you remember that there

0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:46.880
<v Speaker 8>was bombing you know, the Talibans.

0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:51.160
<v Speaker 2>The bunker buster. Oh yeah, yeah, yes, it got somebody

0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:53.440
<v Speaker 2>in their hiding place, didn't I remember that? Yeah?

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:57.120
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Well there's the caves of the Taliban to see,

0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 8>it's all of the teath. Now, look, what would you

0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:02.759
<v Speaker 8>say if India, by examples, but invade Australia and the

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:06.600
<v Speaker 8>exclus with the only living space for their people, who

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:09.799
<v Speaker 8>they got millions of Indians there. So that there is

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:12.440
<v Speaker 8>a law, Okay, I have to obey the law, you know,

0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 8>international law. They can't simply invade countries so bombs law.

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:18.839
<v Speaker 2>Will you say that they've done it? And you know

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:22.759
<v Speaker 2>the international law seems to be as weak as as

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:28.359
<v Speaker 2>for Indians invading Australia. I mean they've they've already got

0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:31.239
<v Speaker 2>quite a few of them over here. And now Jack,

0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 2>no question. Listen. I appreciate your call, but I'm going

0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:36.879
<v Speaker 2>to have to go. But thank you for ringing. Good night,

0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:39.440
<v Speaker 2>bye bye, good morning. We will have some news for

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:43.319
<v Speaker 2>you in twenty eight seconds. What can I read, Sue says,

0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:46.279
<v Speaker 2>I might. Albo and Wong have never liked Israel and

0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:49.839
<v Speaker 2>have always supported Palestine. Not surprised Albo will not back

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:53.279
<v Speaker 2>to the US, as he would be upsetting his voters,

0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:58.480
<v Speaker 2>says Sue. Back to politics are always locals.

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<v Speaker 1>Now on two GB for BC and network stations. Go

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:07.000
<v Speaker 1>back to our straight here overnight we'll find Jeffries.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, good morning. See here's a comment. If a ran

0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:17.440
<v Speaker 2>nuclear ambition Irans, I guess that you'd read nuclear ambitions

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:20.240
<v Speaker 2>are peaceful. Why has it enriched uranium to sixty percent

0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 2>when it only needs to be three percent for peaceful purposes?

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:27.879
<v Speaker 2>As I mentioned, Why and this is something I didn't mention.

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:29.760
<v Speaker 2>That's a good point. Why does it have an Enrichmond

0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 2>facility under a mountain if it has nothing to hide. Yes,

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:39.040
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a courgent comment, because it'll be a

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:41.200
<v Speaker 2>lot cheaper to just have it in the building up top,

0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't it. Ian on something different, says hey Luke. No, no, no,

0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Luke does weekends these days? Possible topic news dot com

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:56.800
<v Speaker 2>dot Au photographer Dominic O'Brien assaulted and has died in Footscraye,

0:40:56.800 --> 0:41:01.279
<v Speaker 2>allegedly by a man arrest did as part of a

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:05.879
<v Speaker 2>group of two hundred immigration detainees released from long term

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:10.000
<v Speaker 2>detention by the High Court. Regards Ian. Yes, look, I

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:13.600
<v Speaker 2>did see that story. With our system, I guess you

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:18.960
<v Speaker 2>would know. There's a limited amount of comment that we

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:22.920
<v Speaker 2>can allow on it. Otherwise we'll have some embarraster standing

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:25.880
<v Speaker 2>up saying that we compromised his clients right to a

0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:30.400
<v Speaker 2>fair trial. But yeah, guy was wearing an ankle bracelet

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:34.560
<v Speaker 2>for all the good it did apparently allegedly. Anyway, we

0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:37.760
<v Speaker 2>can talk about that more when it goes to court. Beverly,

0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 2>says Halimich. As I listened stunned at the complex planning

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 2>and execution of the massive strike on the dangerous around

0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:47.920
<v Speaker 2>nuclear sites. I felt so embarrassed by the pathetic response

0:41:47.960 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 2>of our government and thought, thank god, the US is

0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:55.720
<v Speaker 2>on our side regards BEV. Yes, they are on our side.

0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:59.359
<v Speaker 2>Let's hope that they're one hundred and ten percent on

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:02.919
<v Speaker 2>our side. Kim's called in from Brisbane. Good morning, Kim.

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, Mike, I just worry about will the US continued

0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 16>to be on our side with Albow in charge. I

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:17.319
<v Speaker 16>don't know who would have breathed a bigger sigh of

0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:20.399
<v Speaker 16>relief when they didn't meet each other. Would have been

0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 16>Albow or Trump? Because Trump obviously is so disgusted in

0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:32.919
<v Speaker 16>alban Easy. He's on video with a microphone running down

0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:40.840
<v Speaker 16>Goom parton me Donald Trump and totally humiliating Donald Trump.

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:47.360
<v Speaker 16>I mean, he just acted embarrassing like a child will.

0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:49.360
<v Speaker 2>Childlike maybe that's his appeal.

0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:55.319
<v Speaker 16>Do you think there's no appeal? I just shake my

0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:59.839
<v Speaker 16>head when you or someone else says he's appealing. No, No,

0:42:59.880 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 16>I don't think so. Well, not on any level.

0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:07.759
<v Speaker 2>Well, a lot of people preferred him to the Oppositions

0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:08.319
<v Speaker 2>front man.

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:12.600
<v Speaker 16>Well, when you talk about a lot of people, I didn't.

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:15.839
<v Speaker 16>It's a fact that the Labor Party got in.

0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, didn't.

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 16>Part of me on thirty three percent.

0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Of the vote thirty four in a bit.

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:24.839
<v Speaker 16>Sorry, okay, thirty four percent. So either we've got a

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:31.960
<v Speaker 16>very bad voting system, yeah, or or it's reagd allegedly

0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 16>it's reaked.

0:43:32.840 --> 0:43:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Well it's not. It's not rigged. Rig but the smarties

0:43:37.960 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 2>know how to play the system, how to play the

0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 2>preferential system.

0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:47.760
<v Speaker 16>Yeah, And it's not right. And these independents never stay independent.

0:43:49.040 --> 0:43:51.120
<v Speaker 16>They will suck up to the one they want to

0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:51.960
<v Speaker 16>give their vote to.

0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Or on the other hand, we have people getting elected

0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:57.120
<v Speaker 2>on a party platform and then they say, guess what,

0:43:57.920 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe in what they have to offer anymore,

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:01.880
<v Speaker 2>but I still want to stay in parliament for another

0:44:02.120 --> 0:44:03.880
<v Speaker 2>few years, thank you exactly.

0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:09.520
<v Speaker 16>They ride on the backs of particular parties and once

0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:12.239
<v Speaker 16>they get in they they do whatever they want to

0:44:12.239 --> 0:44:16.600
<v Speaker 16>do it. Yes, can I just agree with Helen from

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:20.400
<v Speaker 16>Kabulta and everything she had to say about albans in

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:23.600
<v Speaker 16>how weak he is. That's why I do think we're

0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:28.120
<v Speaker 16>on pretty shaky ground. And I don't think particularly wants

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:31.000
<v Speaker 16>to meet alban Easy face to face and waste his

0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:32.440
<v Speaker 16>time with him, and he.

0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:34.080
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't seem to be going out of his way to do.

0:44:34.040 --> 0:44:37.920
<v Speaker 16>It, does he No, An Alban Easy would rather probably

0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:40.320
<v Speaker 16>not meet him. I just don't know why they can't

0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 16>just have a link up if there is to be

0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:43.640
<v Speaker 16>a meeting.

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:45.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, they have spoken on the phone, haven't they.

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 16>But I'm talking about a face to face link up

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 16>with you can do it on computers.

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:53.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's right. A zoom meeting, yes, a.

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:55.359
<v Speaker 16>Zoom meeting, yes, you can have one of them.

0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:56.600
<v Speaker 17>Yeah.

0:44:56.640 --> 0:45:00.800
<v Speaker 16>And just with the attacks the what happened in Iran,

0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:05.160
<v Speaker 16>was there any civilians that were killed, Mike, I think.

0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:07.280
<v Speaker 2>There would be. I think there were. Look, I don't

0:45:07.480 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 2>know the numbers. I haven't seen any numbers on that,

0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:11.319
<v Speaker 2>but I guess there would have been here.

0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:16.320
<v Speaker 16>Yes, yes, I don't think I've mentioned that, But correct

0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:19.560
<v Speaker 16>me if I'm wrong, and I possibly could be that.

0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 16>Hasn't Iran been saying for years and years they plan

0:45:25.239 --> 0:45:31.080
<v Speaker 16>on they have nuclear weapons to bomb the United States?

0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:33.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think some of them have been saying, you know,

0:45:33.760 --> 0:45:37.880
<v Speaker 2>they have to rid the world of the unbelievers or

0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:42.520
<v Speaker 2>what's that effect, because they are the extremest end of

0:45:43.320 --> 0:45:49.520
<v Speaker 2>that particular what you always say, religion, thought process culture. Yeah,

0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:51.560
<v Speaker 2>so they think like that and they have done since

0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:55.399
<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy nine when the iotolerance his crowd got in.

0:45:57.040 --> 0:46:00.280
<v Speaker 2>And of course that's an interesting part of the whole business.

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:03.960
<v Speaker 2>How many people in Iran do want regime change, And

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:06.680
<v Speaker 2>of course it's been pointed out, I've been watching this

0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:11.520
<v Speaker 2>all afternoon, how very brutal the present regime is if

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:14.239
<v Speaker 2>anybody tries to go against what the government tells them

0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:19.319
<v Speaker 2>that they must do. So. As far as the nuclear weapons, look,

0:46:19.440 --> 0:46:23.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm inclined to think that I did mention it earlier

0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:27.640
<v Speaker 2>that their view is they would use nuclear weapons if

0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:30.080
<v Speaker 2>they could, even if it meant they wiped themselves out,

0:46:30.560 --> 0:46:34.040
<v Speaker 2>because it's that, you know, death cult side of that

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:35.160
<v Speaker 2>particular school of thought.

0:46:35.960 --> 0:46:39.520
<v Speaker 16>Yeah, but in saying that, I agree with you, Mike

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 16>insime that also, I think it's damn shame that these

0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:47.160
<v Speaker 16>people in charge of countries can't make the oshe and

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 16>talk rather than just think let's have a war.

0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh, we all think that, But then what are you

0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:57.440
<v Speaker 2>going to do? You know, if they start invading. It's

0:46:57.440 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 2>a bit late for talk, then, isn't it.

0:46:59.280 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 16>Yeah, that's side of it too.

0:47:01.360 --> 0:47:04.279
<v Speaker 2>See Subridge, is there saying you can't bomb your way

0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:09.600
<v Speaker 2>to peace. Actually, mister subridge. That wasn't the lesson from

0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:14.360
<v Speaker 2>World War Two, as I recall, it was the bombing

0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:16.759
<v Speaker 2>that brought about the end of it. It finally persuade well,

0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:21.160
<v Speaker 2>not all the Japanese, but the Japanese in charge said

0:47:21.280 --> 0:47:24.719
<v Speaker 2>it's over. But there were isolated areas where some of

0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:26.720
<v Speaker 2>the Japanese kept on fighting.

0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:27.439
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:47:27.600 --> 0:47:30.120
<v Speaker 16>Well, can I just say, reminds me of a friend.

0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:34.240
<v Speaker 16>She has since passed away. She'd be about partly about

0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:37.880
<v Speaker 16>ninety two now. She was still alive. She was a

0:47:37.960 --> 0:47:42.640
<v Speaker 16>prisoner of war. She was from Holland, and her and

0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:45.240
<v Speaker 16>a family were a prisoner of war that had gone

0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:47.400
<v Speaker 16>to Indonesia because her father.

0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:48.000
<v Speaker 8>Had worked there.

0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:52.040
<v Speaker 16>But they were caught as prisoners by the Japanese. And

0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:56.399
<v Speaker 16>I remember when I met her about thirty years ago,

0:47:56.520 --> 0:47:59.440
<v Speaker 16>she said to me it was a good thing that

0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:08.160
<v Speaker 16>Japan bombed Hawaii because that's when the Americans stepped in

0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:12.760
<v Speaker 16>and it was the Americans that saved her and a family.

0:48:13.239 --> 0:48:17.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yes, well there are lots of stories about how

0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:19.920
<v Speaker 2>that all happened too, but I can understand her thinking

0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:23.560
<v Speaker 2>that way. All right, Kim, thanks for calling you bye.

0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:28.320
<v Speaker 2>Maria has called in from West Bride. Good morning, Maria, Oh,

0:48:28.400 --> 0:48:29.040
<v Speaker 2>good morning.

0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:34.680
<v Speaker 12>I'm going to try and maintain some try and remain

0:48:34.760 --> 0:48:39.760
<v Speaker 12>a little bit calm, but I'm feeling extremely frustrated listening

0:48:40.040 --> 0:48:42.520
<v Speaker 12>to the callers, and I'm glad that, you know, I'm

0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:47.000
<v Speaker 12>hearing some stuff that a lot of Australians believe is

0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:49.840
<v Speaker 12>the case. But I do really want to say this

0:48:51.040 --> 0:48:56.160
<v Speaker 12>that what happened with that bombing, I just want to

0:48:56.200 --> 0:48:59.040
<v Speaker 12>say that that was completely illegal.

0:48:59.800 --> 0:49:00.439
<v Speaker 8>It was a.

0:49:00.400 --> 0:49:04.560
<v Speaker 12>Violation of international law. It was a violation of the

0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:09.160
<v Speaker 12>Yun Charter, it was a violation of the Non Proliferation

0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:14.080
<v Speaker 12>Treaty and a violation of the US Constitution, which does

0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:19.040
<v Speaker 12>not give Trump the right to start a war without

0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:22.839
<v Speaker 12>congressional approval. I mean, what is going on?

0:49:24.400 --> 0:49:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Do you see Trump starting this one? Do you think

0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:28.719
<v Speaker 2>Trump started a war here?

0:49:29.280 --> 0:49:35.319
<v Speaker 12>I believe Trump is definitely know what I believe is Israeli.

0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:41.640
<v Speaker 12>Israel is trying and has managed successfully to pull him

0:49:41.640 --> 0:49:47.879
<v Speaker 12>in and has absolutely pulled him in as he has

0:49:48.000 --> 0:49:52.359
<v Speaker 12>done before with the Iraq war, with the Afghanistan war.

0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:57.799
<v Speaker 12>This is all a plan. I just want to see

0:49:57.840 --> 0:50:01.320
<v Speaker 12>what you think about that, because you're I really respect

0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:04.040
<v Speaker 12>you on this talk back.

0:50:05.719 --> 0:50:06.080
<v Speaker 18>Channel.

0:50:06.600 --> 0:50:08.400
<v Speaker 12>So I want to hear what you think about that.

0:50:09.040 --> 0:50:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, I suppose I could address a piece by piece.

0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:17.080
<v Speaker 2>But if you're looking at the big picture, which is

0:50:17.320 --> 0:50:20.319
<v Speaker 2>I think what you're getting to did Trump do the

0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:25.800
<v Speaker 2>right thing? You can take a position that it was

0:50:26.040 --> 0:50:29.560
<v Speaker 2>right to do what he did to forestall what Iran

0:50:29.680 --> 0:50:31.759
<v Speaker 2>might have been up to. But then, of course you

0:50:31.840 --> 0:50:34.520
<v Speaker 2>go back to the weapons of mass destruction. What I

0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:40.400
<v Speaker 2>would like to know, before totally involving myself in your argument,

0:50:40.920 --> 0:50:45.480
<v Speaker 2>is exactly what happened. Did he wipe out what was

0:50:45.480 --> 0:50:48.480
<v Speaker 2>the main one for it? Out right? Did he totally

0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:56.400
<v Speaker 2>wipe out the main nuclear installation? I'm just curious to

0:50:56.400 --> 0:50:58.200
<v Speaker 2>find out more than that. I'm going to talk by

0:50:58.239 --> 0:51:00.480
<v Speaker 2>the way, I'm going to talk to a straight you know,

0:51:00.640 --> 0:51:02.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean when I say straight journal I mean a journalist,

0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:05.360
<v Speaker 2>not a commentator. I'm going to talk to a journalist

0:51:05.600 --> 0:51:08.120
<v Speaker 2>later in the morning, because by then we might have

0:51:08.200 --> 0:51:10.960
<v Speaker 2>learned some more and I'll be interested to see what

0:51:11.120 --> 0:51:13.680
<v Speaker 2>he has to say about it. But to find out

0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:18.200
<v Speaker 2>exactly the result of this is going to be pretty tricky,

0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:21.280
<v Speaker 2>isn't it, Because who's going to tell us the absolute truth?

0:51:22.440 --> 0:51:26.600
<v Speaker 12>You're right, I hear that but what is going on?

0:51:26.760 --> 0:51:31.359
<v Speaker 12>I mean, America is our ally, what is going on

0:51:31.440 --> 0:51:35.160
<v Speaker 12>with all this illegal stuff that Trump is doing? I mean,

0:51:35.320 --> 0:51:41.160
<v Speaker 12>what is he thinking? What credibility does this man have anymore?

0:51:41.600 --> 0:51:46.680
<v Speaker 12>And I also want to say, Israel is also the

0:51:46.800 --> 0:51:53.439
<v Speaker 12>holder of nuclear weapons, illegally has weapons. They don't want

0:51:53.440 --> 0:51:56.279
<v Speaker 12>to be checked by agencies. They don't want to be

0:51:56.400 --> 0:52:00.480
<v Speaker 12>checked by the IAEA. They don't want to be checked

0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:02.160
<v Speaker 12>by any of those agencies.

0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:04.480
<v Speaker 5>But Iran has.

0:52:04.360 --> 0:52:07.640
<v Speaker 12>Has has gone through all the checks and has so

0:52:07.719 --> 0:52:12.000
<v Speaker 12>far abided by what is the I don't know how

0:52:12.040 --> 0:52:16.160
<v Speaker 12>they word it, but has passed the checks. This is

0:52:16.160 --> 0:52:20.920
<v Speaker 12>Israel feeling they just want to pull the US in here.

0:52:21.080 --> 0:52:25.200
<v Speaker 12>And I just don't understand why people don't understand that.

0:52:25.320 --> 0:52:28.680
<v Speaker 12>I just don't get it. Iran and they. And the

0:52:28.719 --> 0:52:32.600
<v Speaker 12>other thing is Iran is the only country that has

0:52:32.640 --> 0:52:38.120
<v Speaker 12>some power to support the Palestinian cause. Cause that's going on,

0:52:38.719 --> 0:52:42.400
<v Speaker 12>and I feel so angry and upset about it. Okay,

0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:45.120
<v Speaker 12>but I just have to say that's all indeed.

0:52:44.920 --> 0:52:49.160
<v Speaker 2>But see what you're saying. I fancy myself as a

0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:52.959
<v Speaker 2>pragmatist right now. I think the UN is as weak

0:52:53.000 --> 0:52:58.160
<v Speaker 2>as I can give you examples going way back. So ultimately,

0:52:58.520 --> 0:53:01.799
<v Speaker 2>what does it come down to? You know, it's money

0:53:01.840 --> 0:53:06.840
<v Speaker 2>and guns rule world. That's what book Dylan said, and

0:53:07.440 --> 0:53:11.080
<v Speaker 2>I think that's probably correct as far as Israel is concerned.

0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:15.759
<v Speaker 2>Their view, it's pretty obvious, I think, is if we

0:53:15.800 --> 0:53:18.719
<v Speaker 2>don't wipe them out, they'll only get you know, they'll

0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:20.719
<v Speaker 2>take time out and they'll come back and they'll do

0:53:20.760 --> 0:53:25.080
<v Speaker 2>it all again, because it's unlikely to be ever settled.

0:53:25.880 --> 0:53:28.520
<v Speaker 2>So what do you say about that? I mean, what's

0:53:28.560 --> 0:53:29.520
<v Speaker 2>the alternative here?

0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:34.440
<v Speaker 12>But there's no evidence that they're going to wipe anybody out.

0:53:34.680 --> 0:53:39.600
<v Speaker 12>What I can see them wiping people out, That's what

0:53:39.680 --> 0:53:43.440
<v Speaker 12>I can see. No, that's what I keep seeing on

0:53:43.480 --> 0:53:48.160
<v Speaker 12>the TV, on my social media streams. There's a genocide

0:53:48.280 --> 0:53:52.160
<v Speaker 12>going on over there. Does anybody know or care about that?

0:53:52.719 --> 0:53:54.359
<v Speaker 18>Well, I mean I just don't get it.

0:53:54.760 --> 0:53:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Look, you know, as I say, I'm interested in what

0:53:57.480 --> 0:53:59.560
<v Speaker 2>people have to say. But I can just hear people

0:53:59.600 --> 0:54:02.600
<v Speaker 2>now getting ready to say, well, if they wanted to

0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:07.000
<v Speaker 2>take the temperature down a bit, why not return the hostages?

0:54:08.880 --> 0:54:13.680
<v Speaker 12>Okay, this is Look, Mike, I don't believe this is

0:54:13.719 --> 0:54:19.400
<v Speaker 12>about the hostages. Honestly, I believe that they have so

0:54:19.880 --> 0:54:23.880
<v Speaker 12>such precision that they were able to go and wipe

0:54:23.880 --> 0:54:30.840
<v Speaker 12>out those scientists and the government in Iran precition precision targeting.

0:54:31.440 --> 0:54:34.520
<v Speaker 12>And you're telling me they can't find their hostages in

0:54:35.440 --> 0:54:40.000
<v Speaker 12>power style. I mean, that's the best intelligence in the world.

0:54:41.360 --> 0:54:43.920
<v Speaker 2>What do you think they could get the Israelis could

0:54:43.920 --> 0:54:45.799
<v Speaker 2>get the hostages back if they really wanted to.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, the intelligence they have is the best in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. There's a couple of people commenting about you, but anyway, okay.

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<v Speaker 12>And that's fine, and I'm expecting, but I just want

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<v Speaker 12>to bring another side of the narrative. I'm hearing one

0:55:05.600 --> 0:55:08.280
<v Speaker 12>side and I just want to put my side across.

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<v Speaker 2>I think doing that listening, Yeah all right, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just saying I think you had a pretty good girl

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<v Speaker 2>putting your side across, don't you.

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<v Speaker 12>I do? And thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I just need to check that out.

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<v Speaker 12>And also just one other thing, Benjamin Nett and Yahoo

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<v Speaker 12>Is has been charged with war crimes by the International

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<v Speaker 12>Criminal Court, and I just want to put that out

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<v Speaker 12>there as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Thank you, Maria. Bye. Chris has called in

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<v Speaker 2>from lily Field. Hello, Chris, good.

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<v Speaker 4>Morning, sir. I am just staggered, and unfortunately, at my age,

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<v Speaker 4>that's not a good idea.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not terminally staggered, are you, Chris?

0:55:53.920 --> 0:55:54.200
<v Speaker 15>No?

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<v Speaker 4>Thank good? No, I stagger around it because break my

0:55:57.800 --> 0:55:59.759
<v Speaker 4>neck in the back and all sorts of body that.

0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:01.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, that's just.

0:56:01.840 --> 0:56:03.680
<v Speaker 4>One of the things that you deal with when you

0:56:03.719 --> 0:56:09.160
<v Speaker 4>get older and climb ladders. Anyway, I'm just staggered at

0:56:09.160 --> 0:56:11.479
<v Speaker 4>the number of people who don't seem to have read

0:56:11.600 --> 0:56:15.120
<v Speaker 4>or understand history at all. And we're hearing some of

0:56:15.160 --> 0:56:19.880
<v Speaker 4>these people on the radio unfortunately, and what I just

0:56:20.040 --> 0:56:25.719
<v Speaker 4>heard just very recently has so many untruths in it

0:56:25.760 --> 0:56:28.160
<v Speaker 4>that you start to wonder about the sanity. And then

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<v Speaker 4>you wait a minute, how did Albanezy get elected? Oh

0:56:31.800 --> 0:56:35.600
<v Speaker 4>that's right. A certain gentleman who is under his control

0:56:35.680 --> 0:56:39.719
<v Speaker 4>went zooming around the country just before the election, enrolling

0:56:39.880 --> 0:56:44.160
<v Speaker 4>people to vote all across our country, spending my money,

0:56:44.239 --> 0:56:48.040
<v Speaker 4>my tax money, flying all over the place saying look, guys,

0:56:48.040 --> 0:56:50.640
<v Speaker 4>you can vote now. Look here, I'm going to enroll

0:56:50.680 --> 0:56:54.239
<v Speaker 4>you as an Australian. That's probably half of where they

0:56:54.320 --> 0:56:59.560
<v Speaker 4>got that vote. Wonder that happened. Anybody with any excell

0:56:59.719 --> 0:57:04.560
<v Speaker 4>sense and any IQ above thirty would start to understand

0:57:04.600 --> 0:57:07.960
<v Speaker 4>that the Albanezi government is not out for anybody but

0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:11.000
<v Speaker 4>the people who want their hand out to be given

0:57:11.160 --> 0:57:14.440
<v Speaker 4>something for free, which means it costs the rest of

0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:17.640
<v Speaker 4>us something because we've got to give them our things.

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<v Speaker 4>That's bad enough. Now, if we go back to history,

0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:27.960
<v Speaker 4>I have been involved with people who understand the background

0:57:28.760 --> 0:57:32.880
<v Speaker 4>and who have voted to help with money to keep

0:57:33.000 --> 0:57:37.240
<v Speaker 4>Israel going since nineteen forty eight when it started. And

0:57:37.440 --> 0:57:42.160
<v Speaker 4>at that time there were no Palestinians there. The Palestinians

0:57:42.200 --> 0:57:45.680
<v Speaker 4>have not lived there before because it was a bloody desert.

0:57:46.200 --> 0:57:49.520
<v Speaker 4>They did nothing to make anything any better. The Jewish

0:57:49.560 --> 0:57:52.440
<v Speaker 4>people came in on that particular chunk of land that

0:57:52.480 --> 0:57:56.479
<v Speaker 4>they were available to be given, and at that time

0:57:56.560 --> 0:57:58.720
<v Speaker 4>they said, we're going to do something with this country.

0:57:58.760 --> 0:58:00.600
<v Speaker 4>We're not just going to sit here in the desert

0:58:00.640 --> 0:58:03.280
<v Speaker 4>and thank the Lord that we've been given this plot

0:58:03.280 --> 0:58:06.000
<v Speaker 4>of land. Now they've been there now for thousands of years,

0:58:06.040 --> 0:58:09.000
<v Speaker 4>it's not just recently, and so if you go back

0:58:09.040 --> 0:58:12.640
<v Speaker 4>in history you'll find that this is true. And secondly,

0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:15.080
<v Speaker 4>they said, well, all right, if we've got to live here,

0:58:15.080 --> 0:58:18.520
<v Speaker 4>and it's a fairly sparse sort of stuff, we've got here,

0:58:19.240 --> 0:58:22.080
<v Speaker 4>why don't we make something of it, which they did,

0:58:22.280 --> 0:58:25.960
<v Speaker 4>and they've also helped the people who have come towards

0:58:26.000 --> 0:58:30.040
<v Speaker 4>that region, knowing that there is something good called Israel

0:58:30.240 --> 0:58:33.040
<v Speaker 4>just up over there on the border which is now

0:58:33.080 --> 0:58:36.520
<v Speaker 4>a border, but it wasn't then, and they'd said, okay,

0:58:36.680 --> 0:58:39.760
<v Speaker 4>well we'll join them, and a lot of Palestinians live

0:58:39.920 --> 0:58:44.360
<v Speaker 4>quite comfortably as Moslims in amongst the Jewish people. But

0:58:44.440 --> 0:58:47.760
<v Speaker 4>there are others who said no. And then Iran. Of course,

0:58:48.360 --> 0:58:50.919
<v Speaker 4>I was in America at the time when Iran took

0:58:51.000 --> 0:58:54.840
<v Speaker 4>hostages out of the American embassy and threatened to kill

0:58:54.880 --> 0:58:56.680
<v Speaker 4>them all. Right then and there.

0:58:56.840 --> 0:58:58.840
<v Speaker 2>There was during Carter's time, wasn't it.

0:58:59.080 --> 0:59:02.120
<v Speaker 4>That's exactly right. Jimmy Carter said, well, what the hell

0:59:02.160 --> 0:59:05.200
<v Speaker 4>are we going to do? And he went once and failed.

0:59:05.920 --> 0:59:07.280
<v Speaker 4>Then he said, we're going to have to get the

0:59:07.400 --> 0:59:11.000
<v Speaker 4>military to go in there and take things out and

0:59:11.160 --> 0:59:15.840
<v Speaker 4>take over to try to get our people back, which

0:59:15.840 --> 0:59:20.480
<v Speaker 4>he did successfully. Now that man who was just installed

0:59:20.480 --> 0:59:21.640
<v Speaker 4>in nineteen seven, By the.

0:59:21.600 --> 0:59:24.640
<v Speaker 2>Way, just on that score, didn't people at the time

0:59:24.720 --> 0:59:27.440
<v Speaker 2>say it was the threat of Reagan coming in that

0:59:27.680 --> 0:59:30.280
<v Speaker 2>made them finally decide to play ball.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, And what's more, Reagan got tougher than that with

0:59:34.240 --> 0:59:37.040
<v Speaker 4>the Russians. I don't know whether you remember that, but

0:59:37.520 --> 0:59:40.040
<v Speaker 4>Reagan said, essentially to the Russians, look, if you don't

0:59:40.080 --> 0:59:42.840
<v Speaker 4>back off, I'm going to put something up there in

0:59:42.880 --> 0:59:44.880
<v Speaker 4>the sky that's going to come over you, and you're

0:59:45.400 --> 0:59:50.240
<v Speaker 4>risk losing every bloody thing you've got. And sure enough,

0:59:50.280 --> 0:59:53.080
<v Speaker 4>the Russians said, hmm, is he true? Is he real?

0:59:53.520 --> 0:59:56.480
<v Speaker 4>What do we know? What do we know? Well?

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<v Speaker 2>I think the difference was they believed that Reagan would

0:59:58.760 --> 1:00:03.000
<v Speaker 2>do what he said, whereas with Carter they figured Carda wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's right. Carter was so weak, and they thought, well, gosh,

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<v Speaker 4>if they change and this guy gets to be tougher

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<v Speaker 4>and we can't block him the way we did Carter,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe we're in for a problem. So I thought, I

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<v Speaker 4>really thought that Reagan did a great deal of good

1:00:19.080 --> 1:00:22.200
<v Speaker 4>for the country. The country was running down and it

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<v Speaker 4>had it had miles of stores of stuff that people

1:00:25.120 --> 1:00:28.280
<v Speaker 4>couldn't buy, and Reagan came in and said, enough of

1:00:28.320 --> 1:00:30.840
<v Speaker 4>this storing stuff. We've got to get rid of all

1:00:30.880 --> 1:00:34.200
<v Speaker 4>this rubbish and stop producing so much that we can't

1:00:34.200 --> 1:00:37.280
<v Speaker 4>sell it all. Tomorrow. We need everything going from day

1:00:37.280 --> 1:00:38.880
<v Speaker 4>to day to day to day, and we just keep

1:00:38.880 --> 1:00:42.280
<v Speaker 4>on rolling along. And sure enough, the economy boomed while

1:00:42.280 --> 1:00:45.040
<v Speaker 4>he was there, and all of us looked at it

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<v Speaker 4>and said, really, this is guy just this has got

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<v Speaker 4>the film start.

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<v Speaker 7>What is he?

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<v Speaker 4>What does he know that he did? Anyway, then we

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<v Speaker 4>get back to now and where the uh, this country

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<v Speaker 4>called Iran is now being looked at and has been

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<v Speaker 4>for all that time since Jimmy Carter. It's been looked

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<v Speaker 4>at as a country which wants to wage war on

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<v Speaker 4>the Israelis and on anyone who is white and anybody

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<v Speaker 4>who is not of their religion.

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<v Speaker 2>The believers.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the leader I'm sorry about, Yes, the Iyotolah. And

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<v Speaker 4>unfortunately his theories and massacres, by the way, are not

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<v Speaker 4>exactly unknown. He is very very strong in his wishes

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<v Speaker 4>and desires and that they be kept. Oh, yes, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's happening today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, indeed, so people who talk about regime change say

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<v Speaker 2>that's all very well, but the regime is so brutal

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<v Speaker 2>with anybody who there is showing any sign of being

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<v Speaker 2>opposed to them, that I don't know what the regime

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<v Speaker 2>change is going to happen. But then I guess nobody

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<v Speaker 2>does at this stage.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, I guess we're going to.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we are all right. Well, thank you, Chris,

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<v Speaker 2>Bye bye bye. Take it easy. Let me see, let's

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<v Speaker 2>go to Steve from Cairn this morning. Steve, Good morning, Mike.

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<v Speaker 19>I listened to a caller a minute ago, and I

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<v Speaker 19>want to congratulate you on having Men's A members ringing

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<v Speaker 19>you at one o'clock in the morning. Someone to say

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<v Speaker 19>that they're fully conversant with the American constitution and they

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<v Speaker 19>know that what America did was illegal under their constitution.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not just them saying it. I mean that's

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<v Speaker 2>out there in the mainstream as well. People who are

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<v Speaker 2>supposedly in positions of authority are saying it.

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<v Speaker 19>Oh I really, I thought this person was actually a

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<v Speaker 19>judge of the International Court of Justice masquerading at someone

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<v Speaker 19>from north right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I see, I was shocked. Does that happen? Okay?

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<v Speaker 19>Can I just ask you a question. When I grew up,

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<v Speaker 19>we refer to nuclear weapons as adam bomb. So when

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<v Speaker 19>did they transition to not being called Adam bombs anymore

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<v Speaker 19>and being called nuclear weapons?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. And also there's the hydrogen bomb too,

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<v Speaker 2>that that's snuck in there. I don't know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>with these language things, I suppose I could ask Cal Richards,

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<v Speaker 2>he studies language. But yeah, Adam, bomb's maybe nuclear sounded

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<v Speaker 2>less threatening when you talked about using it for peaceful purposes.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure. But now it's as threatening as ever,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 19>Well, yeah, a nuclear weapon in an atom bomb, and

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<v Speaker 19>he's threatening. And if someone's trying to build one, whoever

1:03:36.720 --> 1:03:39.280
<v Speaker 19>wants to take it out, good on. It might support

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<v Speaker 19>that person, right, you know, I think what Trump did

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<v Speaker 19>was probably save the world from a lot of problems.

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<v Speaker 2>Well a lot of people, of course that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what he did there is what was necessary in the

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<v Speaker 2>interests of the Western world. Yes, it's not only the

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<v Speaker 2>Western world.

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<v Speaker 19>Name the Arab country that stood up and said how dairy?

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<v Speaker 19>Not too many, how I'm talking against it?

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<v Speaker 9>They very very few.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's the point. That's the point.

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<v Speaker 19>Yes, And they're not members of the Western world, are they?

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<v Speaker 19>And not even Pakistan.

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<v Speaker 2>Pakistan wants to give them a Nobel prize, don't they.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 19>Well, you know, I think you'll find, you know, quietly,

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<v Speaker 19>behind the scenes, a lot of countries are saying, good

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<v Speaker 19>on you're Donald, you know, well done.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right.

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<v Speaker 19>There's not too many people cheering on the mad mullers

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<v Speaker 19>of what you run, are they?

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<v Speaker 2>But the ones there are, you know, they're pretty determined

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<v Speaker 2>and devoted. Or maybe it's maybe it's just in their

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<v Speaker 2>short term interests to be that way.

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<v Speaker 19>Well, you know, in Reagan's days, Mad used to me

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<v Speaker 19>refer to as mutually assured destruction. That's right, Well, that's

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<v Speaker 19>the way where the mad mulla comes from.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but I don't know. I mean I've alluded to

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<v Speaker 2>this a couple of times this morning. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if the mutually assured destruction would stop the eye at Toller,

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<v Speaker 2>would it? No, No, it wouldn't. Yeah, a thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>todeve Thanke. You see, why do they call it a

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear weapon? Okay, this is what we found. The terminology

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<v Speaker 2>has evolved for a more accurate and comprehensive description of

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<v Speaker 2>these weapons. Here's why nuclear weapons is now the preferred

1:05:21.840 --> 1:05:26.480
<v Speaker 2>term broader scope. The therm atomic bomb or a bomb

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<v Speaker 2>specifically refers to weapons that derive their explosive force solely

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<v Speaker 2>from nuclear fission reactions. These are the types of bombs

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<v Speaker 2>dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki inclusion of fusion weapons. After

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<v Speaker 2>World War II, the development of hydrogen bombs or h

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<v Speaker 2>bombs significantly changed the landscape of nuclear armaments. These weapons,

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<v Speaker 2>also known as thermonuclear weapons, utilize both nuclear fissions to

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<v Speaker 2>initiate the reaction, and nuclear fusion, which releases far more

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<v Speaker 2>energy nuclear encompasses both. The term nuclear weapon is more

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<v Speaker 2>general and accurate umbrella term that covers both fission atomic

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<v Speaker 2>bombs and fission fusion thermonuclear hydrogen bombs, as they all

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<v Speaker 2>harness the immense energy released from the nucleus of an atom.

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<v Speaker 2>In essence, atomic bomb describes a specific type of nuclear weapon,

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<v Speaker 2>while nuclear weapon is the broader category that includes all

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<v Speaker 2>devices relying on nuclear reactions fission, fusion, or combination for

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<v Speaker 2>their destructive power. There you go, There you go. Kell

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<v Speaker 2>Eat your heart out. What about? Neutron bomb? Also known

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<v Speaker 2>as enhanced radiation weapon ERW, was developed but ultimately retired

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<v Speaker 2>by the US. While initially intended for battlefield use, concerns

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<v Speaker 2>about its tactical effectiveness and the potential to lower the

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<v Speaker 2>threshold for nuclear conflict led to its discontinua. Production of

1:07:01.680 --> 1:07:04.200
<v Speaker 2>these weapons ceased in the nineteen eighties, and the warheads

1:07:04.240 --> 1:07:09.680
<v Speaker 2>were eventually withdrawn and dismantled. The neutron bomb type of

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<v Speaker 2>thermonuclear weapons designed to maximize the release of neutron radiation

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<v Speaker 2>while minimizing blast and heat effects is so remember them

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<v Speaker 2>talking about it, and I think the idea was you

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<v Speaker 2>could kill the soldiers without destroying the buildings. M joy,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for the kind words, Susan says, Chris is

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<v Speaker 2>always a voice of reason. Thank goodness. And then there's

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<v Speaker 2>two emojis, a thumbs up and a smiley. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's right, those smiling emojis. Sometimes they're laughing at you.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about text. You don't always get the tone, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, are you being literal or ironic? It's harder

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<v Speaker 2>to tell with emojis, or for me, I'm not really

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<v Speaker 2>that conversant with emogis. Maybe maybe I'm missing some nuance here.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me talk to Nicole from Rockhampton. Good morning, Nicole,

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning.

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<v Speaker 18>I can't believe I'm listening at one point thirty in

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<v Speaker 18>the morning, and I'm just what.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you what would you else? What else would you

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<v Speaker 2>be doing at this hour of the morning. I'm shocked.

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<v Speaker 18>Oh, probably sleeping, but I've been following this for some

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<v Speaker 18>time now and listening to Maria from North Ride in

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<v Speaker 18>relation to Palestine, and has she not heard of David

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<v Speaker 18>in golife. Go back in history. Let's go back in history.

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<v Speaker 18>There is no genocide happening in Palestine. Iran has funded

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<v Speaker 18>terrorism all over the Middle East with proxy Hamas, Hezbollah,

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<v Speaker 18>the hooties. They're the ones who are causing all the

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<v Speaker 18>all the damage, you know, the poor people who were

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<v Speaker 18>stolen from Israel and killed and raped and you know, murdered.

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<v Speaker 18>We need to go back and realize where this all started.

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<v Speaker 18>And then we have all these people in Sydney covering

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<v Speaker 18>their faces, you know, praising terrorism. I just can't believe

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<v Speaker 18>where this country is headed. It's just disgraceful.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's true that some of the people, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>you need people, those kind of individuals really aren't the

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<v Speaker 2>full bottle as they say on what they're actually supporting them.

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<v Speaker 18>People should be more educated on this topic. They've just

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<v Speaker 18>they listen to social media, they look at all the

1:09:28.080 --> 1:09:30.600
<v Speaker 18>propaganda and they jump on their own bandwagons, but they

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<v Speaker 18>don't really understand behind all of this. There's a reason

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<v Speaker 18>this has been going on for centuries and just her

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<v Speaker 18>other common in relation to around being compliant with the

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<v Speaker 18>nuclear program. Absolutely not three decades. They've been doing this

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<v Speaker 18>for and for three decades have been threatened to blow

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<v Speaker 18>them up. But Trump had the guts to do it,

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<v Speaker 18>and good on him. He may have saved the Western

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<v Speaker 18>world because it's exactly what they were going to do

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<v Speaker 18>was put nuclear arms strutting to Israel, wipe them off

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<v Speaker 18>the face of the planet, and wipe every other Western

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<v Speaker 18>country off the face to the planet. That was their

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<v Speaker 18>threat all the time. So we need to be you know,

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<v Speaker 18>we all want world peace. We all want world peace.

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<v Speaker 2>But the way this.

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<v Speaker 18>Country is so divided between you know, left ring right wing,

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<v Speaker 18>why can't we always get along and be educated on

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<v Speaker 18>topics before we jump on the radio and start shooting

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<v Speaker 18>off misinformation. This is why we have so many young

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<v Speaker 18>people on the streets protesting, and I don't know what

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<v Speaker 18>they're protesting about. I have no idea. It just looks

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<v Speaker 18>good at the time. So it's just very frustrating. And

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<v Speaker 18>I do come from a background where I know what

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<v Speaker 18>I'm talking about, which I won't disclose, but you know,

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<v Speaker 18>I'm just really watching this unfold and it infuriates me.

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<v Speaker 18>And good on Israel. You know they're resilient. They're so resilient,

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<v Speaker 18>all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate you going to Carl. Thank you for ringing in.

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<v Speaker 16>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome by Gary is from Brisbane. Good morning Gary, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>good morning.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike.

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<v Speaker 6>Chris is a very educated man. I used to work

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<v Speaker 6>for a commandor who ended up becoming rear around them

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<v Speaker 6>all and ended up being the Governor of New South Wales,

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<v Speaker 6>Dave Martin. And he told me he was involved with

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<v Speaker 6>the Monty Bellot tests and he's on the ship type

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<v Speaker 6>of thing. I think he ended up dying in Messo

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<v Speaker 6>Feenie Amia or a nice bloke. But the thing is

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<v Speaker 6>Donald Trump has been very much aligned by the lefties

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<v Speaker 6>in this country. He doesn't drink, he doesn't smoke, and

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<v Speaker 6>they put the sword into him.

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<v Speaker 3>Here.

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<v Speaker 6>I was talking to a mate of mine, I say,

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<v Speaker 6>with mered Island, which overlooks who used to work at NASA,

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<v Speaker 6>which overlooks Cape Ken of the Cape Canaveral and all

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<v Speaker 6>that sort of stuff. I've been out to NASA and

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<v Speaker 6>he told me when I was talking can more the news, Gary,

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<v Speaker 6>that have set the stealth bobbers have to refilm because

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<v Speaker 6>they're fully loaded and have to refilm in the air

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<v Speaker 6>and land. And I spect the Benny on the aw

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<v Speaker 6>and it's just having you know that. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 6>I know it. Surely you must have the access to

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<v Speaker 6>your screen there to say what's happening. And he couldn't

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<v Speaker 6>answer me. You are yeah, I told him before. Then

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<v Speaker 6>all of a sudden it's happened. But the major thing

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<v Speaker 6>we got in this country is brainwashing in doctrination too

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<v Speaker 6>much to the left. There's no set of thing anymore.

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<v Speaker 6>Why lay father is.

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<v Speaker 2>Not what anymore? Sentencing? Did you say what they do here?

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<v Speaker 6>There's a lot of brainwashing indoctrination to the left. They

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<v Speaker 6>don't most of them young people. You're probably the same

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<v Speaker 6>as me, a baby boomer. You mentioned you were in

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<v Speaker 6>Canberra when the Raiders got started obviously two I was

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<v Speaker 6>a noble ticket old.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure that I was there when they got

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<v Speaker 2>started off. I was in Canberra though, from two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>to about twenty eleven.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I was there when I was Manari playing Ilwara

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<v Speaker 6>and the writer has got style combination of Group eight

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<v Speaker 6>in Group sixteen. I used to play for Group sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you know it's Manero.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, Manero.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, because the Holden people gave me a review copy.

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<v Speaker 2>You remember they brought back the Holden Monaro.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's that's correct.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to drive around in that. People loved that card.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a green one, so I was able to

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<v Speaker 2>drive my Monaro in the Manero.

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<v Speaker 6>It's funny here they've got different pronunciations of things.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>But the biggest problem we've got in this chat and

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<v Speaker 6>our city before, I think our economy is going to collapse,

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<v Speaker 6>which is on.

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<v Speaker 2>The way to.

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<v Speaker 6>Bailing Jim Charmers. He's going to do the old Robin

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<v Speaker 6>Hood thing and start taxing.

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<v Speaker 9>The rich to.

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<v Speaker 6>I suppose get all these things. So you've got to

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<v Speaker 6>cross the mind by.

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<v Speaker 2>He's telling us he's texting the rich now. But of

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<v Speaker 2>course much of what constitutes the rich now will only

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<v Speaker 2>be the middle class by the time they get to

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<v Speaker 2>retirement age. So in the long term, I think the

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<v Speaker 2>Labor Party's made a mistake, because if there's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be regime change, it always comes from the middle class.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, you're at Trump supporter Gary, I've got.

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<v Speaker 6>All the equipment. I've got so much Trump gear. I've

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<v Speaker 6>got all his shirts, the dolls, you know, the bobble

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<v Speaker 6>is everything.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the way I'd be the number one.

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<v Speaker 6>Supporter here in Maruka. But the whole thing is when

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<v Speaker 6>you start offering up stuff to the uninitiated swal type

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<v Speaker 6>of thing. For some of these all university students that

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<v Speaker 6>have been promised they twenty rebate on the X seeds.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's not a question for about sixteen billion dollars

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<v Speaker 6>that US satisfiers have got to come do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Think it'll come through? Do you think that, as the

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister put it when he changed the taxes after

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<v Speaker 2>promising not to do so in the previous election, that

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<v Speaker 2>he had to make an intervention.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, it's like the female prime minister said, there will

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<v Speaker 6>be no carbon Jack Saunder and the government.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I remember that. Gary. I gotta fly, but thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for calling. Thank you bye. Robin Is from Penrith.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, Robin, my Mike.

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<v Speaker 20>I'm glad John. I really wish you're around every night.

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<v Speaker 20>I just want to talk about Iran and then say

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<v Speaker 20>something about Israel quickly. My GPS from Iran.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, and her.

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<v Speaker 20>Sister is a doctor too at the local hospital from Iran,

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<v Speaker 20>both in their forties. And then if she's got a

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<v Speaker 20>brother who's electorate one of the uniss. She got one

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<v Speaker 20>brother back in Iran and her parents are out on

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<v Speaker 20>twelve months Visit's supposed to go home next month, but

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<v Speaker 20>they've got a protection visa for the time then. And

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<v Speaker 20>she told me what goes on in that country, otherwise

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<v Speaker 20>they'd probably back there is at so loosely astrocious what

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<v Speaker 20>they do to the women, and how.

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<v Speaker 13>That when they bond.

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<v Speaker 20>The nuclear power stations there, her and the family were

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<v Speaker 20>jumping up and down in the kitchen celebrating. They wish

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<v Speaker 20>that they wish they hadn't got the Ayatola.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, a lot of people think that way. But if

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<v Speaker 2>if you show any signs of thinking that way with

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<v Speaker 2>the Ayatola, what they do to you is so brutal,

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<v Speaker 2>people are afraid to well show it.

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<v Speaker 20>Yeah that's right over there. Ye, well she's You know

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<v Speaker 20>that what they do to women. If you look at

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<v Speaker 20>pictures forty seven years ago when the Shara Ferga rap

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<v Speaker 20>Rain there and see the difference with the women and

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<v Speaker 20>the women today, you know it's just a complete turnaround.

1:17:53.800 --> 1:17:58.840
<v Speaker 20>They walk lovely and the Shara Persia. I seen him

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<v Speaker 20>on Instagram and speaking from where he is in refuge.

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<v Speaker 20>He said that Israel has always been a friend of

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<v Speaker 20>around because it helped to build a temple, you know,

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<v Speaker 20>back in the when King Cyrus was raining.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but they've got the religious extremism that comes

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<v Speaker 2>from centuries ago. And what was the other point you

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to make, I've just got to go.

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<v Speaker 20>Oh, Israel. Yeah, Israel's got about nine and a half

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<v Speaker 20>million people. There's one hundred million, one hundred million people

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<v Speaker 20>Muslims in the world, Muslim countries surrounded, you know, the

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<v Speaker 20>ones that surround it. When we were over there in

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<v Speaker 20>Israel a few years ago. We've seen places there like

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<v Speaker 20>restaurants where where they were blown off the map by

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<v Speaker 20>country sending rockets. This was in two thousand and ten.

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<v Speaker 20>And you know, they've getten rockets from Syria and different

1:18:52.360 --> 1:18:57.839
<v Speaker 20>countries around them, and you know, it's just a tiny

1:18:57.880 --> 1:19:01.040
<v Speaker 20>little country and it just got someone's got to stick

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<v Speaker 20>up for, like America, Donald Trump. It's fantastic what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Robin. I gotta fly, But thank you for calling. That's okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>see yea bye. We will have some news for you

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<v Speaker 2>in forty six seconds. What can I read in that

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<v Speaker 2>Julie says Homemach. Everyone seems to have forgotten the Palestinians

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<v Speaker 2>started this round when they sent the rockets into Israel

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<v Speaker 2>almost two years ago. That's what Julie from Queen Beean

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<v Speaker 2>has to say, Judy, thank you for the kind words.

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<v Speaker 2>But is it a good thing that you working up

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<v Speaker 2>and can't go back to sleep? Thank you for the

1:19:41.120 --> 1:19:47.519
<v Speaker 2>kind words. A Similarly, Wayne who also says Chris does

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<v Speaker 2>go on a bit too much, although some people think

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<v Speaker 2>he ought to be PM.

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<v Speaker 1>Now on t gb BC and network stations. Back to

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<v Speaker 1>our straightia overnight, we'd buy Jeffries good morning, welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Along, just joined us. Joe says, Hi, Mike, if there's

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<v Speaker 2>such a thing as a hydrogen bomb, shouldn't we all

1:20:13.479 --> 1:20:16.880
<v Speaker 2>be against hydrogen? She is Joe, No, I think we're

1:20:16.880 --> 1:20:20.400
<v Speaker 2>only supposed to be against carbon dioxide. But there's no

1:20:20.479 --> 1:20:24.200
<v Speaker 2>carbon dioxide bombs are they? To the best of my knowledge?

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that that whole thing is waning, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>except for our government who are going on with the

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<v Speaker 2>ridiculous renewables thing, which is not going to work. Jeff

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<v Speaker 2>Wicks from Ladley in Queensland says Mike. The likes of

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<v Speaker 2>Maria from Ride are cut from the same cloth as

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<v Speaker 2>the lefties that sabotage the musicians, the munitions and supplies

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<v Speaker 2>being sent to the soldiers fighting in New Guinea during

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<v Speaker 2>World War Two, says Jeff Wicks from Laidley in Queensland.

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<v Speaker 2>Mix says, Hi, Mike, did you happen here on ben

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<v Speaker 2>Fordham Show last week? The interview with the US energy

1:21:02.600 --> 1:21:06.400
<v Speaker 2>expert that marks Australia's energy policy well worth a listen?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was last Thursday, says Mick and Melbourne. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for that, Mick. I read about it and you

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<v Speaker 2>know the policy if it really is a policy as

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<v Speaker 2>well worth marketing. I well, I've said this so many

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<v Speaker 2>times in the last whatever it's been fifteen years or so.

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly do not understand the motivation for the way

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<v Speaker 2>Albo and Chris Bowen are going, and I really do

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<v Speaker 2>think it's something that's not being disclosed anyway. Joyce says

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<v Speaker 2>that little Green card was all bs since the election.

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<v Speaker 2>I now pay sixty five dollars to see a doctor

1:21:47.680 --> 1:21:51.880
<v Speaker 2>for a script instead of fifty dollars. Even pension has

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<v Speaker 2>pat unless suffering with cancer or chronic illness. Thanks albow

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<v Speaker 2>says Joy. Marian says, I repeat for PM. Rob has

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<v Speaker 2>called in from Blackburn in Victoria. Good morning, Rob, Good

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<v Speaker 2>morning Mike. Nice.

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<v Speaker 9>Nice to see to hear you on your weekly chat.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 9>I rang up about the neutron bomb because it looks

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<v Speaker 9>as though, just doing a bit of reading, it's like

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<v Speaker 9>everyone on their dogs had it tried it, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>like not tried it as such. But I've been playing

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<v Speaker 9>with where they should use it and so forth, and

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<v Speaker 9>I found one of the I want to be at

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<v Speaker 9>descriptions I think was by a National Authority director Hal

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<v Speaker 9>Brown and Soviet General Secretary Lennon Brezhnev, who both described

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<v Speaker 9>neutron bombs as a capitalist bomb because it was designed

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<v Speaker 9>to destroy people while preserving property.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that that was the story about it, wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just reading the detail, This is one little piece I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't put on the air before. The concern was that

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<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't be effective against, for example, tanks.

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<v Speaker 9>All right, one of one of our Chinese warships off

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<v Speaker 9>the Sydney coast, do you reckon? We might be able

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<v Speaker 9>to land one there on the deck and we could

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<v Speaker 9>maybe get their get air naval fleet up by stealth.

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<v Speaker 2>So so we could the theory there would be it

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<v Speaker 2>woud wipe out the crew, but we would still have

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<v Speaker 2>the worship and we could put our flag on it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's your thinking.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, you could give it a couple of works sort

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<v Speaker 9>of dust the clear, so to speak. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 9>just just going there with the with the suits on

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<v Speaker 9>and where we go. Yeah, And I just want to

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<v Speaker 9>lie I note about Donald Trump farmer Trump supporter. My

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<v Speaker 9>wife isn't.

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<v Speaker 2>How does that work out?

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<v Speaker 9>And my daughter my daughter isn't either. So that's so

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<v Speaker 9>that that has has some interesting discussions. But when when

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<v Speaker 9>the don was in the last time was there. I

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<v Speaker 9>was in one of the Watson News stores and it

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<v Speaker 9>was coming up to Valentine's Day and here's the card

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<v Speaker 9>and it says make Valentine's Day Great again and the

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<v Speaker 9>picture of Donald Trump on the front. I purchased one

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<v Speaker 9>and sent it on behalf of the don to my wife.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you get to an appropriate reaction?

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<v Speaker 9>I loved it?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well love short. It's important to have fun, rob Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>Well that's right.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 9>I just made sure the steaknives were packed away and

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<v Speaker 9>anything else that could be used.

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<v Speaker 2>But so she was a wake up as she knew

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<v Speaker 2>that it was really you.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, well I certainly hope you know, but it was.

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<v Speaker 9>It was rather rather interesting and you know, and I

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<v Speaker 9>sort of trot that trot the picture out poker picture

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<v Speaker 9>of course, and had it on my my secret phone

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<v Speaker 9>and bring that out at the appropriate time that just

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<v Speaker 9>to remind.

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<v Speaker 2>People that's something to look forward to.

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<v Speaker 9>M Anyway, I shall leave you with that, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>you have a great night.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Rob, thank you, thanks for calling in. Nicholas

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<v Speaker 2>has called in from Earlwood. Good morning, good morning.

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<v Speaker 17>I was visiting Sydney CBD yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>M hm, how did that?

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<v Speaker 17>Well, we're intriguing, Clover. It's clever More territory, as you know,

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<v Speaker 17>part of the Sydney Council there and the posters up

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<v Speaker 17>council posters indicating and this has happened before refugees and

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<v Speaker 17>asylum seekers are welcome here, and I'm thinking, what the

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<v Speaker 17>hell does Sydney Council have to do with immigration policy?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean yes, but you know how it works, Nicholas.

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<v Speaker 2>You get on the council and that's stepping stone to

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<v Speaker 2>federal greatness. And then once you've got that under your belt,

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of us here in Australia are just helping

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<v Speaker 2>you to get that gig with the un Isn't that

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<v Speaker 2>how it works?

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<v Speaker 17>Yes? Indeed, I mean look as a human gesture, Okay,

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<v Speaker 17>you're welcoming individuals. But the thing is there's an underlying

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<v Speaker 17>political motive behind that, and it's virtue signaling. And sometimes

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<v Speaker 17>I think perhaps Clovermore is dreaming of a day that

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<v Speaker 17>the Sydney Council area that she currently holds power in

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<v Speaker 17>becomes part of the Act, that other grand electorate with

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<v Speaker 17>the highest concentration of left leaning federal public servants in Australia,

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<v Speaker 17>And I just wonder whether or not the entire Act

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<v Speaker 17>should be disbanded, so to speak, and become just like

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<v Speaker 17>any other entity, our local entity.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I used to push the idea of the Act

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<v Speaker 2>being the reverse of that. I felt that every decision

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<v Speaker 2>the federal government made should occur in microcosm in the

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<v Speaker 2>Act so that they.

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<v Speaker 17>Know the ramifications of the policies that the Left is pushing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, So worked on a percentage basis. If they

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<v Speaker 2>bring in a million and a half migrants, then whatever

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<v Speaker 2>the percentage is decided on land area or whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 2>we decided that percentage then is happening in the act

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<v Speaker 2>as well, so that the people who make the this

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<v Speaker 2>is can see the direct effect of what they've.

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<v Speaker 17>Done, indeed, because the act does actually live in a bubble.

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<v Speaker 17>And it's interesting. There was a documentary made on the

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<v Speaker 17>Great Santa Maria and he was talking about our discussion

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<v Speaker 17>that he had with Menzies in the latter part of

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<v Speaker 17>his career, or after Menzies had retired, and he asked

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<v Speaker 17>the question of Menzies what was his greatest regret and

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<v Speaker 17>men one of the greatest regrets of Menzies was the

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<v Speaker 17>growth of the Canberra based bureaucracy during his prime ministership

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<v Speaker 17>and the ramifications of that in terms of creating this

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<v Speaker 17>huge bubble, which is it's quite fascinating. I can't remember

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<v Speaker 17>the actual name of the documentary, but it speaks volumes

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<v Speaker 17>for the way that it's a world within a world,

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<v Speaker 17>a bit like Washington, the establishment within Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 17>Prior to the coming in of Trump, Washington d C.

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<v Speaker 17>And centers like California with their very left leaning ideological

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<v Speaker 17>establishment figure so to speak. Anyway, just also just for

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<v Speaker 17>a different turn, another suggestion for a sad song. Now

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<v Speaker 17>people are familiar of course, with the great Dylan song

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<v Speaker 17>rolling like a Rolling Stone, indeed, very sad sort of lyrics.

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<v Speaker 17>I think what you should consider perhaps is the version,

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<v Speaker 17>a live version done by the Rolling Stones. Brilliantly executed

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<v Speaker 17>by the Rolling Stones. I think Mick Jagger at his best.

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<v Speaker 17>I'm not too sure when that recording came out. It

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<v Speaker 17>was part of a live shit that the Rolling Stones

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<v Speaker 17>release back in the late eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I've never heard that it's a great song.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing is it's eight minutes long.

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<v Speaker 17>Ah, you could easily edit it, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know me Me editor Bob Dylan's song good heavens Nicholas

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<v Speaker 2>what he's saying, Ah, you.

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<v Speaker 17>Can be creative. I'll allow for that level of creativity.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get Chris to do it. Yeah, okay, thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>see Nicholas, bye bye.

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<v Speaker 1>And now on Overnight's Entertainment with Alex First.

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<v Speaker 2>Help you time to entertain you with Alex Versta, Film

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<v Speaker 2>theater and entertainment reviewer and editor of I Tell You

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<v Speaker 2>what I Think dot Com. Good morning, how are you.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm well? Thank you, Mike and your good zelms.

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<v Speaker 2>Mustn't grumble as they say you've been to see f

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<v Speaker 2>one with Brad Pitt very exciting.

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<v Speaker 5>This is well, I can't think of any movie that's

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<v Speaker 5>had more publicity leading up to its launch than this

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<v Speaker 5>one in twenty twenty five. And I suppose I'll start

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<v Speaker 5>with a question because we spoke a few weeks ago

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<v Speaker 5>about Tom Cruise and we said there's no actor on

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<v Speaker 5>the planet that seems to generate more publicity and has

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<v Speaker 5>done such a good job in terms of getting bums

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<v Speaker 5>on seats. Well, I suppose there is a rival, and

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<v Speaker 5>if there is one, it's the star of F one,

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<v Speaker 5>Brad Pitt. Two of them are very similar in age.

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<v Speaker 2>How old are they?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Pitt would be sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>One and I'm that old.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 5>He looks damn fine, as does Tom. Cruise is sixty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>Both made a lot of movies. They've been very successful

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<v Speaker 5>and you can bank them, which is why studios love

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<v Speaker 5>having them in their court. And look F one, I

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<v Speaker 5>suppose you somebody who follows Formula one motor racing or

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<v Speaker 5>do you like speed full stop.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the second would be yes, that can be a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of fun. But the answer to the first, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>follow it religiously, as they say, But if it happens

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<v Speaker 2>to be on TV. I'll quite often watch it. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's exciting just to go back to this movie. Though.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Javier Bardem the bad guy?

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<v Speaker 5>Not the bad guy? Is a guy who plays a

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<v Speaker 5>prominent role because he is the head of a team,

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<v Speaker 5>which is a team that's been manufactured for this particular movie.

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<v Speaker 5>But I suppose, look, there'd be a lot of people

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<v Speaker 5>out there who would have seen the docos about Formula

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<v Speaker 5>one got involved in it in that way, and others

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<v Speaker 5>who are just petrol heads. Now, there have been some

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<v Speaker 5>really good movies made about motor racing. Probably Ford Versus

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<v Speaker 5>Ferrari is the one.

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<v Speaker 2>Great movie stands out. Really enjoyed it, really enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was fabulous.

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<v Speaker 5>And they've spent a lot of time and a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of money on this particular film, not just in marketing

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<v Speaker 5>but in terms of making it. And one of the

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<v Speaker 5>things that apparently happened is they shot a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>it in practice sessions and basically they intertwine the actors

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<v Speaker 5>with the real life f one stars, which is just

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<v Speaker 5>a great way to make a movie because you've.

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<v Speaker 2>Got as long as you can't tell, as long as

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<v Speaker 2>you can't spot the intertwining.

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<v Speaker 5>No, and you can't. It's so natural. Look, it looks brilliant.

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<v Speaker 5>It is a superb looking movie. It's also two hours

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<v Speaker 5>thirty five minutes long, so we'll get to that in

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<v Speaker 5>a few minutes. But it's the old and the new

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<v Speaker 5>butting heads. That's the contention here, and it's tense, it's exciting.

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<v Speaker 5>It's really a motor racing thrill ride, which is great.

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<v Speaker 5>That's exactly what you go to the cinema forore, with.

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<v Speaker 2>Some human drama thrown in. I guess, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of that, Mike, And basically you've got an

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<v Speaker 5>almost Formula one champion from more than thirty years ago,

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<v Speaker 5>failed upon the return to the sport that almost killed him.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, You try to get out, and they

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<v Speaker 2>drag you back in again.

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<v Speaker 5>Correct, Well, I suppose, when you're thinking about it, I

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<v Speaker 5>suppose you'd say that Brad Pitt would be a fifty

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<v Speaker 5>something year old in this movie. They don't specify, but

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<v Speaker 5>that's my best guesstimate. Now, I can't imagine anybody driving

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<v Speaker 5>a Formula one motor racing car at that age, right,

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<v Speaker 5>Paul Human picked.

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<v Speaker 2>Up motor racing at an advanced age.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but Formula one. I don't think he was quite that,

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<v Speaker 5>But no, I'm not doubting that you can in certain divisions.

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<v Speaker 5>But I suppose by that age your reflexes it would

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<v Speaker 5>be slowing down somewhat. That's the only thing I'm thinking of.

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<v Speaker 5>So look as a contention, no worries. As a movie,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not sure that it could be replicated in real life,

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<v Speaker 5>not that that matters. The guy, the guy obviously who's

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<v Speaker 5>the older head is Brad Pitt's carry to Sonny Hayes.

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<v Speaker 5>And he had talent and to burn and then there

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<v Speaker 5>was a tragic accident that cut his career short way

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<v Speaker 5>back when so with so much promise. Unfortunately, thereafter it

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<v Speaker 5>all fell apart for him. He gambled away his money

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<v Speaker 5>at a series of failed relationships, a couple of marriages

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<v Speaker 5>and another relationship, and he carries with him the mental

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<v Speaker 5>and physical scars.

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<v Speaker 2>But we do love a comeback, don't we, alex Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Do we?

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<v Speaker 21>What?

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<v Speaker 9>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>It makes good movie fodder overall. And fortunately he wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>lost to the motorsport industry entirely because he now lives

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<v Speaker 5>hand to mouth in a van, thank you very much,

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<v Speaker 5>and he picks up of course, he does, and he

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<v Speaker 5>picks up paychecks at lower levels. He just claimed the

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<v Speaker 5>Daytona twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>Four hour race.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not really laughing about people who are living rough.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just thinking for the idea of Brad pitt doing,

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<v Speaker 2>got to separate the actor from role he is.

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<v Speaker 5>You do absolutely well basically what happens to the character.

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<v Speaker 5>Sonny Hayes is his former teammate, and obviously if you're

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<v Speaker 5>a teammate or arrival in F one, his name is Ruben.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the heavier Bardam character. He comes knocking, and he's

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<v Speaker 5>now owner of a struggling Formula One team which has

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<v Speaker 5>not has not been in the top ten of finishers

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<v Speaker 5>in any of the races in the three years that

1:36:29.520 --> 1:36:32.000
<v Speaker 5>he's been at the Helm. Well it's at least two

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<v Speaker 5>and a half years, because there's nine races left in

1:36:34.560 --> 1:36:35.360
<v Speaker 5>the current season.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've got our Samson versus Goliath, yes, correct.

1:36:38.920 --> 1:36:42.719
<v Speaker 5>And the boards plotting to remove the heavier Bardam character's

1:36:42.800 --> 1:36:46.320
<v Speaker 5>name is Ruben. Unless he can break through in those

1:36:46.560 --> 1:36:51.040
<v Speaker 5>final nine races, the odds stack really well, untruly against

1:36:51.120 --> 1:36:55.599
<v Speaker 5>him and against the cocky rookie league driver that he has,

1:36:55.760 --> 1:36:59.400
<v Speaker 5>a guy called Joshua Pears played by Damson Idris.

1:37:00.120 --> 1:37:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Classic storytelling, isn't it, Because you've got to have a

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<v Speaker 2>deadline apart from anything else. Yes, one hundred.

1:37:05.240 --> 1:37:08.920
<v Speaker 5>It's like the countdown clock very much so like Mission Impossible,

1:37:08.920 --> 1:37:12.000
<v Speaker 5>the same thing. You've got a finite amount of time.

1:37:12.360 --> 1:37:14.880
<v Speaker 5>You don't get there, you basically die. Well, in this case,

1:37:14.920 --> 1:37:18.720
<v Speaker 5>you'll lose your team. Apparently it is three hundred and

1:37:18.760 --> 1:37:22.479
<v Speaker 5>fifty million dollars in the red. That's a bit of

1:37:22.520 --> 1:37:26.600
<v Speaker 5>a us. That's a bit of a problem. Anyway, In desperation,

1:37:27.280 --> 1:37:31.080
<v Speaker 5>he turns to the tactically clever Sonny Hayes, the brad

1:37:31.120 --> 1:37:35.599
<v Speaker 5>Pit character, and we find out that he's the ninth choice.

1:37:36.320 --> 1:37:39.519
<v Speaker 5>Is knocked on a lot of doors so far, and

1:37:39.800 --> 1:37:44.519
<v Speaker 5>it looks really it's tackling the seemingly impossible, and character

1:37:44.600 --> 1:37:49.280
<v Speaker 5>becomes the team's second driver and will help educate Joshua

1:37:49.360 --> 1:37:52.880
<v Speaker 5>Piers the young guy. Right, So, look, it's a decidedly

1:37:52.960 --> 1:37:57.160
<v Speaker 5>unconventional approach that Sonny Hayes has to Formula one motor racing,

1:37:57.520 --> 1:38:00.840
<v Speaker 5>and basically that's going to be lead to all sorts

1:38:00.880 --> 1:38:05.200
<v Speaker 5>of clashes within his team between drivers and so on,

1:38:05.400 --> 1:38:08.840
<v Speaker 5>and the questions then does Sonny Hayes still have what

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<v Speaker 5>it takes and are they the team prepared to listen

1:38:12.240 --> 1:38:12.559
<v Speaker 5>to him?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we don't want smooth sailing, do we, Alex, Because

1:38:15.640 --> 1:38:19.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, the more that our protagonist has to face

1:38:19.800 --> 1:38:23.519
<v Speaker 2>by way of obstacles and unforeseen drama, the better we

1:38:23.680 --> 1:38:23.920
<v Speaker 2>like it.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, that's the reason it runs for two hours thirty

1:38:26.200 --> 1:38:28.960
<v Speaker 5>five minutes, right, I mean, let's be honest, and it

1:38:29.080 --> 1:38:32.880
<v Speaker 5>is visually arresting, no question about it. Claudio Miranda who

1:38:32.920 --> 1:38:36.040
<v Speaker 5>did Top Gun Maverick, he was the cinematographer. He's done it.

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<v Speaker 5>He's done it again. He's just superb in terms of

1:38:38.960 --> 1:38:42.439
<v Speaker 5>what he the takes and he's just absorbed by it,

1:38:42.479 --> 1:38:45.240
<v Speaker 5>which is great. In the production designed by Ben Monroe

1:38:45.320 --> 1:38:49.120
<v Speaker 5>as well, outstanding, so they capture the excitement they really

1:38:49.160 --> 1:38:52.880
<v Speaker 5>do of the Formula one racing circuit. And the costuming

1:38:52.960 --> 1:38:55.680
<v Speaker 5>is great too. I've got to say Tullion Days responsible

1:38:55.880 --> 1:38:57.680
<v Speaker 5>a lot of style, a lot of elegance. I mean,

1:38:57.960 --> 1:39:00.320
<v Speaker 5>if you've seen the shorts for this, or you know

1:39:00.600 --> 1:39:03.559
<v Speaker 5>the trailer, you can see that there's spent a lot

1:39:03.600 --> 1:39:06.000
<v Speaker 5>of time getting authenticity and I think.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great, sounds pretty good.

1:39:07.240 --> 1:39:10.720
<v Speaker 5>What do you give it well, look, the characterizations are

1:39:10.720 --> 1:39:12.600
<v Speaker 5>really good. And also Hans Zimmer, who you might have

1:39:12.640 --> 1:39:16.120
<v Speaker 5>heard of. It's his score. Misic is terrific, ratchets up

1:39:16.120 --> 1:39:18.280
<v Speaker 5>the tension and a lot of push pull in between

1:39:18.280 --> 1:39:21.639
<v Speaker 5>many parties. Looks I would put it right up there

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<v Speaker 5>with Ford versus Ferrari. Substantive, top tier motor racing movie.

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<v Speaker 7>Perhaps a little bit it could have.

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<v Speaker 5>Been pared back a little bit without losing an eating

1:39:31.160 --> 1:39:34.120
<v Speaker 5>of substance, but still commend it seven and a half

1:39:34.160 --> 1:39:37.320
<v Speaker 5>to eight out of ten, M rated F one. It

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<v Speaker 5>is called, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds to me like I'd like to go see it.

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<v Speaker 2>What about Riviera Revenge.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, okay, this is a fascinating story because it's based

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<v Speaker 5>on a contention that the director read and it was

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<v Speaker 5>in a newspaper and it concerns and he's both the

1:39:56.120 --> 1:39:58.920
<v Speaker 5>writer and the director's name is Yvonne or Ivan, I'm

1:39:58.960 --> 1:40:03.759
<v Speaker 5>not sure which one. Albarak And it's a movie about well,

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<v Speaker 5>it's based on a ninety two year old This is

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<v Speaker 5>in Italy. It happened a few years ago. A ninety

1:40:09.680 --> 1:40:14.280
<v Speaker 5>two year old Sicilian discovered love letters addressed to his

1:40:14.360 --> 1:40:19.920
<v Speaker 5>wife dating back more than seventy years now, that in itself, Okay, well,

1:40:19.920 --> 1:40:22.559
<v Speaker 5>that's great. The problem is that at the time he

1:40:22.640 --> 1:40:23.720
<v Speaker 5>was already married.

1:40:23.400 --> 1:40:26.960
<v Speaker 2>To her, and so the love letters are from him

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<v Speaker 2>and she's married to him at the time.

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<v Speaker 5>Is correct. So now what actually happened in real life

1:40:34.640 --> 1:40:37.519
<v Speaker 5>is that even though he's ninety two, and even though

1:40:37.560 --> 1:40:41.040
<v Speaker 5>this happened more than seventy years ago, he could not

1:40:41.280 --> 1:40:46.280
<v Speaker 5>forgive his wife for the adultery, so he filed for divorce.

1:40:50.200 --> 1:40:52.519
<v Speaker 5>And obviously the writer and director read this and said,

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<v Speaker 5>oh my golly, what a great contention for a movie.

1:40:55.400 --> 1:40:57.599
<v Speaker 2>And the judge said, why now after all this time,

1:40:57.640 --> 1:40:59.840
<v Speaker 2>and he said enough already. Yeah.

1:40:59.840 --> 1:41:04.080
<v Speaker 5>Well, the fascinating part is that the director has still said, well,

1:41:04.120 --> 1:41:05.960
<v Speaker 5>hang on, am I going to have a ninety two

1:41:06.040 --> 1:41:11.000
<v Speaker 5>year old protagonist? And he's made him a useful seventy five.

1:41:10.880 --> 1:41:13.280
<v Speaker 2>And really cheated on his age.

1:41:13.560 --> 1:41:17.639
<v Speaker 5>Man ex Actually, Francois is the guy's name, played by

1:41:17.760 --> 1:41:21.080
<v Speaker 5>Andre de Solier, and he's a former military man and

1:41:21.400 --> 1:41:24.640
<v Speaker 5>he lives life on his terms and he's married to

1:41:24.680 --> 1:41:28.080
<v Speaker 5>Annie and that marriage has been going for ages. She

1:41:28.280 --> 1:41:31.120
<v Speaker 5>was nineteen when they were first wed, and they've got

1:41:31.120 --> 1:41:34.200
<v Speaker 5>three grown up children now, the eldest of them, has

1:41:34.200 --> 1:41:37.160
<v Speaker 5>followed his dad into the armed forces, and there's a

1:41:37.160 --> 1:41:41.120
<v Speaker 5>family gathering to mark his mum's birthday, and that's when

1:41:41.600 --> 1:41:45.639
<v Speaker 5>this the eldest child his wife reveal they're expecting their

1:41:45.680 --> 1:41:49.960
<v Speaker 5>fifth child. The other four girls, so the dad Francois

1:41:50.200 --> 1:41:52.320
<v Speaker 5>makes it clear to be nice to break the pattern.

1:41:52.960 --> 1:41:55.880
<v Speaker 5>And the other kids, they've all got a few dad

1:41:56.120 --> 1:41:59.160
<v Speaker 5>favors the eldest and let's say the other two kids

1:41:59.240 --> 1:42:02.040
<v Speaker 5>aren't too happy that middle child has been keeping a

1:42:02.120 --> 1:42:05.080
<v Speaker 5>secret from a straight life dad, namely the fact that

1:42:05.120 --> 1:42:08.760
<v Speaker 5>she's a lesbian. And then the youngest of them is

1:42:08.920 --> 1:42:15.000
<v Speaker 5>artistic and he's actually a professional marionettist so pappeteer, but

1:42:15.120 --> 1:42:16.800
<v Speaker 5>his dad has never been to one of his shows

1:42:16.800 --> 1:42:20.080
<v Speaker 5>because he doesn't sort of really he's not into the arts.

1:42:20.120 --> 1:42:23.240
<v Speaker 5>He's not interested in even vaguely, despite the fact that

1:42:23.280 --> 1:42:25.479
<v Speaker 5>he's his son. So he's got all sorts of problems

1:42:25.479 --> 1:42:29.120
<v Speaker 5>in terms of his family dynamic. So Franz Faba dad

1:42:29.240 --> 1:42:32.360
<v Speaker 5>was clearing boxes in the attic and he discovers a

1:42:32.439 --> 1:42:36.080
<v Speaker 5>pile of old love letters written to any ten years

1:42:36.080 --> 1:42:39.320
<v Speaker 5>into their marriage, because it's immediately clear to him that

1:42:39.400 --> 1:42:44.280
<v Speaker 5>his wife has been having an affair or was he

1:42:44.360 --> 1:42:49.320
<v Speaker 5>goes apoplectic, doesn't he go totally betrayed, and to make

1:42:49.439 --> 1:42:51.640
<v Speaker 5>matters worse, and he had it off with one of

1:42:51.680 --> 1:42:52.360
<v Speaker 5>their friends.

1:42:52.600 --> 1:42:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh dear, oh dear. So he's been doubly let down

1:42:56.280 --> 1:42:59.160
<v Speaker 2>my wife and the friend exactly.

1:42:58.880 --> 1:43:01.519
<v Speaker 5>And of course he has to confront the friend, and

1:43:01.560 --> 1:43:04.120
<v Speaker 5>the wife decides to go along for the ride. And

1:43:04.200 --> 1:43:06.400
<v Speaker 5>you can imagine what goes on as a result of

1:43:06.400 --> 1:43:10.080
<v Speaker 5>all that. Extreme measures had taken and so on. So look,

1:43:10.200 --> 1:43:12.840
<v Speaker 5>the revelations just keep on coming. It's a feel good

1:43:12.880 --> 1:43:15.920
<v Speaker 5>They've done it as a rom com right, which has

1:43:15.960 --> 1:43:20.520
<v Speaker 5>been inspired by fact, but I think they've liberally diverged

1:43:20.640 --> 1:43:24.519
<v Speaker 5>from what the true story was. Nevertheless, that concept is

1:43:24.560 --> 1:43:27.639
<v Speaker 5>a very very good one. I did enjoy it. And

1:43:27.800 --> 1:43:32.759
<v Speaker 5>having said that, the film maintains a light touch throughout,

1:43:32.800 --> 1:43:37.840
<v Speaker 5>it uses jealousy and intransigence as rather powerful tools, and

1:43:38.000 --> 1:43:41.200
<v Speaker 5>also contrasting characters. Because there's the husband and the wife,

1:43:41.439 --> 1:43:44.320
<v Speaker 5>they're very different to one another, the husband and the

1:43:44.360 --> 1:43:48.080
<v Speaker 5>two youngest of his children, and then the wife and

1:43:48.120 --> 1:43:49.840
<v Speaker 5>her laid back former lover.

1:43:50.080 --> 1:43:53.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, so Alex, to paraphrase the Russell Crowe character,

1:43:54.160 --> 1:43:55.280
<v Speaker 2>were we entertained.

1:43:56.160 --> 1:43:59.920
<v Speaker 5>We were entertained. I just thought the Andre de Soli,

1:44:00.400 --> 1:44:04.719
<v Speaker 5>the lead character, full of bombast and indignity as Frans

1:44:04.720 --> 1:44:07.599
<v Speaker 5>who are exactly what you would want. And then you've

1:44:07.600 --> 1:44:10.840
<v Speaker 5>got the sort of softly, softly wife and then she

1:44:10.960 --> 1:44:13.680
<v Speaker 5>starts to push back. Good on her for doing though,

1:44:14.360 --> 1:44:17.960
<v Speaker 5>And of course you've got that lover, the former lover,

1:44:18.360 --> 1:44:21.240
<v Speaker 5>who is as relaxed as you can possibly get. And

1:44:21.680 --> 1:44:25.960
<v Speaker 5>the children will each showcase they're rather sensitive personas. So

1:44:26.320 --> 1:44:28.479
<v Speaker 5>look the production design on the film. It was shot

1:44:28.520 --> 1:44:31.000
<v Speaker 5>by the way in the south of France, so it

1:44:31.040 --> 1:44:33.360
<v Speaker 5>ain't half bad to look at. It is one of

1:44:33.400 --> 1:44:37.719
<v Speaker 5>the features the production design, some stunning settings inside and out,

1:44:38.160 --> 1:44:42.440
<v Speaker 5>and it's exuberant. Rivera Revengers, it's mad capped, it's enjoyable,

1:44:42.600 --> 1:44:45.120
<v Speaker 5>it's an easy watch. It's a good excuse to sort

1:44:45.120 --> 1:44:46.680
<v Speaker 5>of sit down and have a bit of fun. And

1:44:46.720 --> 1:44:50.200
<v Speaker 5>it only runs for ninety four minutes and it's rated M, so.

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<v Speaker 8>Well worth a look.

1:44:51.640 --> 1:44:53.000
<v Speaker 5>You're going to have a bit of fun with it.

1:44:53.240 --> 1:44:56.600
<v Speaker 5>Seven and a half out of ten for Rivera a

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<v Speaker 5>Revenge the.

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<v Speaker 2>Dah Ba r Aleck. Thank you for that. That's Alex first,

1:45:01.479 --> 1:45:03.880
<v Speaker 2>and Alex is a film and theater and entertainment reviewer

1:45:03.880 --> 1:45:08.120
<v Speaker 2>and editor of I Tell You what I Think dot Com.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I want to take a call from Tracy. Good morning, Tracy,

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, Mike.

1:45:15.960 --> 1:45:16.240
<v Speaker 9>Mike.

1:45:16.400 --> 1:45:23.360
<v Speaker 14>I've been carrying on a bit lately about Albo and

1:45:23.600 --> 1:45:30.679
<v Speaker 14>Kevin Rudd. You'd think Albos trying is this to get

1:45:30.720 --> 1:45:38.519
<v Speaker 14>together with Trump? And I saw Albo and Kevin Rudd

1:45:38.800 --> 1:45:47.679
<v Speaker 14>dining out together, and I mean, doesn't think Albow those

1:45:47.960 --> 1:45:56.280
<v Speaker 14>insulting remarks that Ruder put out about Trump, Trump isn't

1:45:56.400 --> 1:46:03.880
<v Speaker 14>going to forget them, Mike, Albo Chelse isn't making it

1:46:04.080 --> 1:46:06.080
<v Speaker 14>easy for us?

1:46:06.439 --> 1:46:09.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, no, I don't think Elbow knows what to say,

1:46:09.720 --> 1:46:12.160
<v Speaker 2>or do you at this particular point. But do you

1:46:12.200 --> 1:46:15.400
<v Speaker 2>think you feel it's a mistake for Elbow to be

1:46:15.479 --> 1:46:18.080
<v Speaker 2>seen to be too close to Rudd. Don't you think

1:46:18.080 --> 1:46:19.280
<v Speaker 2>he's left it a bit late for that?

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<v Speaker 21>Well, I think he might have to tell you the truth,

1:46:25.400 --> 1:46:31.880
<v Speaker 21>because honestly, I don't know who sent Rud to America,

1:46:32.040 --> 1:46:37.439
<v Speaker 21>but really he should be I said to Philly other night,

1:46:38.280 --> 1:46:43.280
<v Speaker 21>send him to Tasmania and never be heard of a game.

1:46:43.720 --> 1:46:46.320
<v Speaker 2>But we don't want to get the Tasmanian's offside.

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<v Speaker 22>No, no, I know that we've got to find some

1:46:52.720 --> 1:46:57.400
<v Speaker 22>spot from me for him that we can barely hear

1:46:57.640 --> 1:46:59.120
<v Speaker 22>about him.

1:46:59.240 --> 1:47:02.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Prince Lenod de Hut, is he still going? Maybe

1:47:02.760 --> 1:47:03.479
<v Speaker 2>he could go there?

1:47:03.760 --> 1:47:06.599
<v Speaker 22>Yeah, yeah, that's the point too.

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<v Speaker 2>I try to help Tracy. Well, thank you for calling

1:47:09.439 --> 1:47:18.080
<v Speaker 2>with that. I gome downy bye bye now bye. Now, Maria,

1:47:19.240 --> 1:47:23.320
<v Speaker 2>you knew Maria would get some response, right, Duncan says

1:47:23.439 --> 1:47:27.439
<v Speaker 2>himks mother superior mented, how do we solve a problem

1:47:27.560 --> 1:47:32.000
<v Speaker 2>like Maria? Oh yes, that's sound a music right hostages.

1:47:32.120 --> 1:47:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Maria says Duncan, death to America and Israel chanted by

1:47:37.000 --> 1:47:42.839
<v Speaker 2>Iran for the past forty six years. Maria, Iran enticing enriching, enriching,

1:47:43.240 --> 1:47:46.479
<v Speaker 2>not enticing uranium to seventy percent when the old Christi

1:47:46.520 --> 1:47:51.760
<v Speaker 2>production in Richmond is five percent. Maria, I'm quoting Duncan here,

1:47:52.160 --> 1:47:55.720
<v Speaker 2>women's rights in Iran. Maria Egypt's wall to keep the

1:47:55.760 --> 1:48:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Iranian sponsored Palestinians out. Maria says Duncan from and brackets

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<v Speaker 2>see a carbon neutral crows brackets bay carbon neutral bay

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<v Speaker 2>hmm okay. Margaret says Mike. Maria's views are wrong. I

1:48:12.000 --> 1:48:14.559
<v Speaker 2>think her name is Maria. She's a Palestinian's border and

1:48:14.600 --> 1:48:19.280
<v Speaker 2>clearly delusional, says Margaret. Anti Israel, anti American, hates Trump.

1:48:19.600 --> 1:48:22.000
<v Speaker 2>People with views like Maria are in extreme danger to

1:48:22.040 --> 1:48:25.400
<v Speaker 2>the world. To Australia, the Israelis or the Americans are

1:48:25.720 --> 1:48:29.360
<v Speaker 2>not evil. Iran has a clear mission to wipe out

1:48:29.600 --> 1:48:33.680
<v Speaker 2>anyone who's not Muslim. Simple as that, says Margaret. If

1:48:33.680 --> 1:48:36.080
<v Speaker 2>Maria feels so strongly in the views, perhaps she should

1:48:36.280 --> 1:48:41.080
<v Speaker 2>get on a plane and go fight over there now

1:48:41.560 --> 1:48:44.800
<v Speaker 2>as we got. Oh yes, Michael says mate. I think

1:48:44.800 --> 1:48:47.160
<v Speaker 2>the world has a verdue for another world war, and

1:48:47.240 --> 1:48:50.200
<v Speaker 2>I think it needs one to make society understand what's important.

1:48:50.200 --> 1:48:54.720
<v Speaker 2>That this won't bs and transgender crap, etc. They will

1:48:54.720 --> 1:48:57.880
<v Speaker 2>be in the fetal position, pissing their pants, crying. The

1:48:57.960 --> 1:49:01.519
<v Speaker 2>captain will run out of bullets, shooting cowards. A war

1:49:01.560 --> 1:49:05.080
<v Speaker 2>will wake society up and well overdue. It's needed like

1:49:05.120 --> 1:49:08.720
<v Speaker 2>a cult or a reset. See. I thought that was

1:49:08.760 --> 1:49:12.679
<v Speaker 2>what we had with the American election, a reset without

1:49:12.760 --> 1:49:17.200
<v Speaker 2>the men with rifles. But historically, Michael, you are correct,

1:49:17.240 --> 1:49:21.360
<v Speaker 2>that's when the resets come, and it's because you know,

1:49:21.840 --> 1:49:24.559
<v Speaker 2>societies which are once great a falling apart. Whatever it is,

1:49:25.160 --> 1:49:27.040
<v Speaker 2>and then we have the war, and then we have

1:49:27.160 --> 1:49:30.360
<v Speaker 2>the big reset. It would be nice to have the

1:49:30.439 --> 1:49:35.120
<v Speaker 2>reset without the war, but it seems like human beings

1:49:35.160 --> 1:49:39.320
<v Speaker 2>are destined to have wars. It just seems to work

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<v Speaker 2>out that way. Joe says, Hi, Mike, the last time

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<v Speaker 2>I was in Sydney, CBD, the whole place was festooned

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<v Speaker 2>with those hideous gay flags politics aside, the whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>looked really ugly. Cheers, Joe Leslie says, Mike. Can you

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<v Speaker 2>tell me when global warming is going to start? Because

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<v Speaker 2>it is a cold winter. Yes, I've noticed it certainly is. Anna,

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<v Speaker 2>You've no idea how any pod yeap, Thank you Anna

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<v Speaker 2>for the kind words, kind words, kind words, kind words.

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<v Speaker 2>They please try to make the listeners happy by having

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<v Speaker 2>you on more frequently. Hugs, Anna, Thank you Anna. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to get to the hugs because I

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<v Speaker 2>figured if it's you, there would be hugs. Paul disagrees

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<v Speaker 2>with our film and reviewer. He says, good day, Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone who follows if one knows, this new movie is

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<v Speaker 2>an absolute dud and comical, so there you going. Opinions

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<v Speaker 2>may vary, Chris says Mike re Iran versus Israel. Even

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<v Speaker 2>Maria from Ryde seems to be very misled and almost

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<v Speaker 2>everything stated tonight, such as the Israelis have such knowledgeable

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<v Speaker 2>capability to kill Iranian warmongers only a few civilians. Contrast Iran,

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<v Speaker 2>which next day bombed a Jewish unarmed, non military hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>That alone should show Maria the immoral morals of the

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<v Speaker 2>ayatole mallahs. And they're crucifying military cheers Chris, a Sydney senor.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Chris's depiction of himself. Not what I said. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I said it, but I just read it. If you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. Susan says, how's your pussy head

1:51:26.840 --> 1:51:29.720
<v Speaker 2>going to your babysitting? It's going pretty well, but it

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<v Speaker 2>is as Prissy has tend to be demanding. And if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on the phone, it comes and snouts me and

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<v Speaker 2>headbuts me and says, what about me? What about some attention?

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<v Speaker 2>What about me? Me?

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<v Speaker 23>Me?

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<v Speaker 2>But apart from that, it seems to be quite happy.

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<v Speaker 2>I use the aircon sometimes with this heater I turn on.

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<v Speaker 2>It loves that. It just likes to be where the

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<v Speaker 2>heater is and snooze. You know what I wonder about cats?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm not an ex but the lady who owns

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<v Speaker 2>this one, I was talking to her on the phone

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday and she was saying about how cats sleep eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>hours a day? You know, is that a true? And

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<v Speaker 2>b how do they stay so fit? I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 2>something if I was in charge, you know, if I was,

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<v Speaker 2>say a ominivodent being although you don't see that job

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<v Speaker 2>advertised very often, I would prefer that we. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>deny cats doing that, but I'd like it to be

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<v Speaker 2>the case for us as well, that we could sleep

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen hours a day and still be as fit as

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<v Speaker 2>How do they do it? Anyway? It's according to three,

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<v Speaker 2>well more or less, it's actually fourteen minutes to three.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, there's nobody in the place. The Sinatra

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<v Speaker 2>said by way of introduction to the tragic song of

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<v Speaker 2>the Morning, and this one that was suggested earlier by

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<v Speaker 2>my associate, mister Sindant, And it is a classic. Have

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<v Speaker 2>a listen. It's so long since I've heard that. It

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<v Speaker 2>is a classic song. But it's not a tragic song.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a song of hope. It's a song of undying love. Yeah. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>a nice song, I guess you're looking at me like

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<v Speaker 2>I should play some commercials. Oh okay, Susan says, good choice. Dale.

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<v Speaker 2>Dale is a softie, Robin says Mike. Johnny Mathis could

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<v Speaker 2>never sing anything but beautiful songs. And then there's a

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<v Speaker 2>musical emoji. Love him, says Robin. Wayne says, oh, Nicholas,

1:53:38.920 --> 1:53:43.200
<v Speaker 2>you never fail lol. And David Shubridge go and do one.

1:53:44.000 --> 1:53:47.519
<v Speaker 2>No one cares what you've used an opinion are three

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<v Speaker 2>exclamation points. Steve says. The embassy hostages were not released

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<v Speaker 2>under Carter. On the day Reagan was inaugurated, the hostages

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<v Speaker 2>were released. Andrew's wife says, good morning, Mike. Maria is

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<v Speaker 2>a good example of a victim of misinformation, ill education,

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<v Speaker 2>and fake news. Her hysteria is indicative of the pro

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<v Speaker 2>Palestinian and anti Semitic terrorist propaganda. That's from Andrew's wife.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've got if I scroll down here, I know

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<v Speaker 2>I've got some more. I've got a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>time to read you, Leslie says Michael. You, Oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>that's Anna. Sorry. See the thing with this is if

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<v Speaker 2>I don't store everything in that side, I start to

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<v Speaker 2>read things and then the device makes a decision for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Which I didn't ask it to do, so let me

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<v Speaker 2>scroll down to where I was. Leslie says, Mike. Women

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<v Speaker 2>should know young women in Iran are currently in jail

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<v Speaker 2>for showing their hair. These young women were brave, but

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<v Speaker 2>they got bashed and some murdered. They want to be free,

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<v Speaker 2>says Leslie. Yeah, easier said than done. Maria sent this

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<v Speaker 2>text in Palestinians are indigenous or caps to the land,

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<v Speaker 2>and it looks like six seven exclamation points there. On

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<v Speaker 2>the other hand, Beverly says, Hi, Mike, just listening to Maria,

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<v Speaker 2>there was an explanation about the legality of the strike.

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<v Speaker 2>Evidently a president is within his rights to make the

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<v Speaker 2>decision that he has. However, to go further, it then

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<v Speaker 2>has to be approved by Congress because then it becomes

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<v Speaker 2>a war involvement. Regards BEV. Marie, not to be confused

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<v Speaker 2>with Maria, says, nice to hear you let that lady

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<v Speaker 2>have her say. I totally disagree with her, but you

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<v Speaker 2>let her have her say. That's why I like TGB.

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<v Speaker 2>You listened to both sides. I totally disagree with her,

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<v Speaker 2>says Marie. Michael says, it's a mass triggered this whole

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<v Speaker 2>Middle Eastern War. Was that horrific attack all legal. It's

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<v Speaker 2>interesting how Palestinians are now complaining about the consequences after

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<v Speaker 2>triggering a war, says Michael. Danny says another Palestinian sympathizer,

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<v Speaker 2>who can't believe that hermas killed twelve hundred people and

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<v Speaker 2>took hostages. She's talking the Palestinian party line, says Danny.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing is scrolled back to where it was.

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<v Speaker 2>These computers that know better than I do. My vintage

1:56:34.240 --> 1:56:38.920
<v Speaker 2>motor car does that. When I started up, it ignores

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<v Speaker 2>the accelerator because the computer knows better than I do,

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<v Speaker 2>and it revs the motor and then drops the speedback.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been like that since I've known it, Mick says,

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<v Speaker 2>speaking of cats, I sometimes feed my cat outside or

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<v Speaker 2>leave the food there, but my cat was still hungry

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<v Speaker 2>for some reason. Turns out another cat was getting into

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<v Speaker 2>my backyard and eating a food. Shifty cat, says Mick. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>no honor among cats, of course. The thing about cats

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<v Speaker 2>is they'll have a bit of the food and then

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<v Speaker 2>leave it, whereas dogs, I suppose, because dogs have to

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<v Speaker 2>compete with the pack or whatever it is, they wolf

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<v Speaker 2>it all down, no matter how much they've just had

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<v Speaker 2>so they don't leave it lying around for other dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>Now on two, GB, four BC and network stations. Back

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<v Speaker 1>to US Ray You're overnight with Mike Jeffries.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, welcome along if you've just joined US National

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<v Speaker 2>Days with Dale coming up. Also just for something a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit different. There's been talked during the week about

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<v Speaker 2>this business of stopping kids accessing social media until they're sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to have a bit of a conversation about that. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>there's plenty a couple of conversations. One, you know, how

1:58:06.760 --> 1:58:09.480
<v Speaker 2>do you deal with it as an average parent, and

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<v Speaker 2>the other being the technicalities of it, because they obviously

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<v Speaker 2>haven't figured that out. What I read during the week

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<v Speaker 2>was Okay, they got a system, but it doesn't work

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<v Speaker 2>all the time, which doesn't surprise me, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like it at best a lot of the time. Apparently

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<v Speaker 2>it couldn't tell the difference between a seventeen year old

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<v Speaker 2>kid and a fifteen year old kid. Well, can you

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<v Speaker 2>imagine this seventeen year old who wants to use social

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<v Speaker 2>media and she's not allowed to because the device thinks

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<v Speaker 2>she's only fifteen. Hmmm, No, Jerry, Jerry had a comment here,

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<v Speaker 2>which has been smothered by other comments. But maybe I

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<v Speaker 2>can find it. Oh, yes, Jerry says Mike. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>the tragic thing about this morning song is that I

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<v Speaker 2>remembered the words, but I am not able to recall

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<v Speaker 2>what I had for dinner last night, says Jerry. Jason says,

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<v Speaker 2>good day, Mike. So I take it that Maria supports

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<v Speaker 2>the hanging of women in Iran for not wearing a

1:59:15.360 --> 1:59:20.040
<v Speaker 2>head cover Jace. Barbara says, Iran say all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>Death to the Big Satan, Big Satan being the USA,

1:59:24.640 --> 1:59:27.880
<v Speaker 2>says Barbara. Jean says, I, Mike, who does Maria think

1:59:27.920 --> 1:59:31.320
<v Speaker 2>supports Hamas, Hezbala, the hooties and so on. She's ignorant,

1:59:31.400 --> 1:59:34.720
<v Speaker 2>says Jane. Rod says, can you please get that caller

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<v Speaker 2>to explain the non proliferation treaty? And Barbara says, with

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<v Speaker 2>the caller, care to tell us where the hostages are?

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<v Speaker 2>Sharon is angling for a spinallese pillow. I know we

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<v Speaker 2>don't have those to give away on the Overnight show.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we don't want people to go to sleep, but anyway, Sharon,

1:59:58.680 --> 2:00:01.720
<v Speaker 2>good luck with the spinal pillow. What are you saying here?

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<v Speaker 2>Play this song, I will follow him. Oh, yes, No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's totally tragic though. Was it their song? But Sharon says,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been listening for thirty five years, never won a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Would love a spinal eased pillow for my birthday two weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like one, but you have to call Ben or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, one of the daytime guys goes. To the

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<v Speaker 2>very best of my knowledge. Unless Dale's keeping the secret

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<v Speaker 2>from me, we don't have spinalle's pillows to give away. Hi,

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<v Speaker 2>Mike and Dale's songs not tragic. It's a beautiful love song.

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<v Speaker 2>Good shows should be more with Mike. I wouldn't switch

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<v Speaker 2>to you the other nights. Regards Margaret. Thank you Margaret

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<v Speaker 2>for that. And I'm just scrolling back to see if

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<v Speaker 2>I missed anything from earlier. Steve says United Nations atomic

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<v Speaker 2>watchdog Duran was not cooperating with nuclear checks that was legal,

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<v Speaker 2>very dangerous. Iran was not to be trusted. Cheers Robert.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Jason said, good day, Mike. The first thing

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<v Speaker 2>the Liberal Party should do is poach Elbow's campaign manager

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<v Speaker 2>so he can teach the Liberals how to lie about us.

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<v Speaker 2>As Jason didn't somebody from the Liberal party say they

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<v Speaker 2>admired the way the campaign manager ran the campaign for

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<v Speaker 2>labor and I can imagine those guys saying that, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's the whole world and oh yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the ideology, the promises, that doesn't matter so much. It's

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<v Speaker 2>how you run the campaign. As Richo said, whatever it takes.

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<v Speaker 2>Sally has called in from Ingleburn. Good morning, Sally.

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<v Speaker 18>Wedding might Yes, I.

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<v Speaker 10>Want to go back a little bit in history if

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<v Speaker 10>I may.

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<v Speaker 2>How far back do you want to go? Are we

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<v Speaker 2>talking dinosaurs or.

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<v Speaker 10>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Not that far?

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<v Speaker 10>No, No, I want to go back in history and

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<v Speaker 10>go back to the Shah's father, who was the previous

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<v Speaker 10>king of Iran. He was taken out of a country

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<v Speaker 10>and the Mauls took over, and that took place in

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<v Speaker 10>around for a while, but not very very long. He

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<v Speaker 10>was taken to exile and he was brought back into

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<v Speaker 10>the country and he dealt with them very very swiftly,

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<v Speaker 10>to the point where you didn't hear about any anything

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<v Speaker 10>to do with religion and all the retrics that's taking

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<v Speaker 10>place in this country right now. When the sun was

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<v Speaker 10>taken when the shark was taken out in seventy nine

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<v Speaker 10>to exile, and I remember I was a teenager. It

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<v Speaker 10>was all over the news and it was said over

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<v Speaker 10>and over, so it sort of stayed in your mind.

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<v Speaker 10>It was said that soon as things quietened down, don't

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<v Speaker 10>be brought back. He never was, And when he never was,

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<v Speaker 10>not one country raised the voice and said why not? Really,

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<v Speaker 10>so this lot just sat there and stayed there until today,

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<v Speaker 10>and in all this time their people have suffered in

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<v Speaker 10>that country so much. You know, it's amazing how with

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<v Speaker 10>the father he was brought back and dealt with them swiftly,

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<v Speaker 10>but the son wasn't. But the son wasn't. And not

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<v Speaker 10>one country, for example, Israel or America or any country,

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<v Speaker 10>not one country said why not. Because at the end

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<v Speaker 10>of the day, that ideology, well, let's face it, it

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<v Speaker 10>is what it is. So for it to have gotten

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<v Speaker 10>to this point, all these major countries, I'm sorry to

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<v Speaker 10>say this, have only got themselves to blame for it.

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<v Speaker 10>That they were allowed to stay there and grow.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's happening all over the world, I guess if

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<v Speaker 2>you take that view. But because fortunately all the adherence

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<v Speaker 2>to that philosophy, and you know, they vary, they're not

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<v Speaker 2>all that fanatical. Although the general message seems to be

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<v Speaker 2>death to the unbeliever, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, it's see if you look at photos and footage

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<v Speaker 10>of how people were under the shark.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course now it could have been in the

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<v Speaker 2>Western world.

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<v Speaker 23>Yeah, but exactly it was.

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<v Speaker 10>It was like a Western country. It's like day and night.

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<v Speaker 10>And when he was not taken back like his father,

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<v Speaker 10>not one country said a word. And now for the

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<v Speaker 10>side is they've all got themselves to blay for because

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<v Speaker 10>they allowed this modin there and just grow.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they've certainly done that, and they've done it by

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<v Speaker 2>ruthless means.

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<v Speaker 10>What's that all site? What's that?

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<v Speaker 17>All?

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<v Speaker 10>Able thrives when good men do nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yes, it's enough for good men to do nothing

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<v Speaker 2>for evil men to succeed. Yep, all right, thanks Sally,

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<v Speaker 2>have a good day, you two bye. A couple of

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<v Speaker 2>emails here from O Is it meaner? Yeah? I thought

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<v Speaker 2>the man was going to speak Jeffrey from Beverly Hills,

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<v Speaker 2>non us. The other says Heimike, removing all the obfuscation.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually quite obvious the alban Easy government has decided

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<v Speaker 2>to sacrifice our alliance with the USA in the hope

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<v Speaker 2>of appeasing the CCP and showing up its relatively small

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<v Speaker 2>but electorally crucial Muslim voter base. And also fyi, Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>actions in relation to around another illegal or unconstitutional. As

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<v Speaker 2>commander in chief of the Armed Forces, he did not

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<v Speaker 2>require congressional approval. Neither did Obama, says Jeffrey, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for those observations. National Days brought to you by Orange

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<v Speaker 2>Cream Biscuits.

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<v Speaker 19>Nothing goes down better in the middle of the night

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<v Speaker 19>than a beautiful orange cream biscuit and a nice cup

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<v Speaker 19>of tea.

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<v Speaker 2>That mob that's supply the biscuits. How come so I

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<v Speaker 2>guess it's a different brand or something. We never see

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<v Speaker 2>vovos or any of those classics.

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<v Speaker 24>No, that's because we don't have We always have the

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<v Speaker 24>cream biscuits. Well, it's probably a good thing because if

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<v Speaker 24>you put in the non cream biscuits, it's the Scotch

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<v Speaker 24>finger biscuits. They are always the first to go, you

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<v Speaker 24>know how as a pecking order. Yeah, same as orange

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<v Speaker 24>cream biscuits as a last left. And I said to

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<v Speaker 24>you earlier, Mike, I'm falling off the wagon, did you

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<v Speaker 24>I did. I had a big handful of orange cream biscuits,

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<v Speaker 24>orange slices, they're actually technically caught.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you had to now buy several new pairs of trousers.

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<v Speaker 24>But just in the last what three hours?

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<v Speaker 2>Not yet? They can be sudden.

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<v Speaker 24>Yeah, but I did a lot of walking on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 24>I did a big coast walk down there, and also

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<v Speaker 24>I was out today walking, so I have done a

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<v Speaker 24>lot of walking. So hopefully I'm countering it.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're hoping to be rewarded by not expanding in

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<v Speaker 2>the gut department, I hope so, Mike.

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<v Speaker 24>But I think sometimes it's, you know, you've sort of

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<v Speaker 24>reached a point where it doesn't matter how much exercise

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<v Speaker 24>you do, it's you know, starts thicking out the waistline.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you have any days?

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<v Speaker 12>I do?

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<v Speaker 24>And now I'll be interesting to see what you say

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<v Speaker 24>about this, because it's something I still enjoy, especially around

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<v Speaker 24>this time of the year it's National potage Day. Porridge

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<v Speaker 24>person not that much.

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<v Speaker 2>I got into the habit of because I'm not a

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<v Speaker 2>big fan of milk, of having oats with fruit juice

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<v Speaker 2>and some berries to it. We've had this conversation that's

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<v Speaker 2>my stomach is churning just well. I know you think

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<v Speaker 2>it's set religious, but now I haven't eaten notes for a.

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<v Speaker 24>While, but obviously it's sacrilicious, sack delicious. Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 24>think there's nothing better than porridge, particularly if you have

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<v Speaker 24>some cream, if I have some leftover dollop, if I've

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<v Speaker 24>been having some apple pie.

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<v Speaker 2>And brown sugar and cream and porridge isn't bad.

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<v Speaker 24>Yeah, I don't think I've got any brown sugar. I

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<v Speaker 24>usually use the raw sugar, though I don't use white

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<v Speaker 24>sugar very often.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, the raw sugar. It's kind of crunchier, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 24>Well, Yeah, but it's I think it's just a little

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<v Speaker 24>bit better because it's not refined. It's not totally brown,

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<v Speaker 24>because I eat refined bread like I've gone back to

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<v Speaker 24>for a long while. I would only eat bread that

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<v Speaker 24>was either you know, four grain or brown and what

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<v Speaker 24>have you.

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<v Speaker 2>But if I buy.

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<v Speaker 24>Baker's Delight white bread, oh my lordie, a lot of

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<v Speaker 24>it's very nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed.

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<v Speaker 24>But before the invention of baking ovens, porridge was the

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<v Speaker 24>most essential part of a British diet.

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<v Speaker 2>Porridge.

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<v Speaker 24>I didn't realize it was actually called gruel as well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 24>I always thought gruel was just some sort of slow

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<v Speaker 24>the peasants used to eat or they give prisoners and things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it grules a bit all encompassing, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 24>Maybe, But the origin and the porridge can be traced

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<v Speaker 24>back to northern Europe, where it was traditionally enjoyed savory.

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<v Speaker 24>The word porridge first appeared in the sixteenth center and

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<v Speaker 24>is believed to be a spin off of the word pottage,

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<v Speaker 24>which is a type of stew.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, a massive pottage, I would see.

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<v Speaker 24>I've never heard that word before. Porridge hasn't always been

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<v Speaker 24>the way it is today. Preparation ingredients varied from grasp

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<v Speaker 24>orn grains to other crops. Quanoa grain has been used

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<v Speaker 24>for making porridge for more than three thousand years, whereas

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<v Speaker 24>rice porridge was eaten in China since twenty five hundred BC.

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<v Speaker 24>Goes even back further than this, with evidence discovered by

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<v Speaker 24>research is proving that the cooked mush now it isn't

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<v Speaker 24>even better word.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is mushy. I don't like that texture in

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<v Speaker 2>the mouth, clingy ricey stuff.

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<v Speaker 24>No, see, that's where the milk smooths it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike.

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<v Speaker 24>Yeah, it was eaten by some going back twelve thousand

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<v Speaker 24>years at the beginning of the Neolithic.

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<v Speaker 2>Revolution, so I think it should stay there.

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<v Speaker 24>Soon after, people started preparing thick pancakes on stone ovens

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<v Speaker 24>or hot tiles using porridge like mixtures such as flatbreads

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<v Speaker 24>are mentioned throughout the Old Testament, but similar innovation simultaneously

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<v Speaker 24>occurring throughout the world. The popularity of pordredge and its

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<v Speaker 24>many variations led to the creation of corn cakes, corn breads,

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<v Speaker 24>corn puddings, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>I like a lot of that Southern food in the

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<v Speaker 2>Southern US, but there's something they have. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>think what a school starts with you, doesn't it groats

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<v Speaker 2>or green grits? Grits grits. Yeah, that's the most boring

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<v Speaker 2>food in the world.

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<v Speaker 24>I don' think that wheat based or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 24>Yeah, I just mostly I think most people have heard

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<v Speaker 24>the word grits coming from the Beverly hillbilliesjowls. I think

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<v Speaker 24>it would be one of Greenny's things to cook up.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be hogjowls. I think, so in that nice.

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<v Speaker 24>Brits andjowls gogiin Yes, yeah, I think this and this

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<v Speaker 24>ties into the next dates let it go day, No,

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<v Speaker 24>I'd let those glits and jails go, but let it

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<v Speaker 24>Go Day is a reminder for you to stop wasting

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<v Speaker 24>time and energy on negative feelings from events in the

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<v Speaker 24>past instead of strengthenings. So instead strengthen yourself, you can

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<v Speaker 24>let it go.

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<v Speaker 6>Let it go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, I like that. The movie that Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>had reviewed this morning about the ninety two year old

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<v Speaker 2>guy that discovered seventy years ago. The wife had had

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<v Speaker 2>a fear with somebody.

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<v Speaker 24>Oh, yeah, that looks interesting. I like a good foreign film.

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<v Speaker 24>I think I'll go and see that. I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 24>F one yet, but looking forward to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, me too. Somebody texted in saying they thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was dull and comical.

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<v Speaker 24>Ah did he say that? Or did he say that?

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<v Speaker 24>The way they treated F one was ridiculous? But that's

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<v Speaker 24>where I say, it's a movie. It's not a documentary.

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<v Speaker 24>It's a movie as far as I'm concerned. As far

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<v Speaker 24>as I can see, the whole point of it is

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<v Speaker 24>the old dog coming in, You've got the new dog

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<v Speaker 24>and the clashing of the old dog and the new

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<v Speaker 24>dog in the So I see that as the film

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<v Speaker 24>and just having if one of the backdrop, that's what

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<v Speaker 24>I'm expecting.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, Well, the way Alex was explaining it, it just

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<v Speaker 2>had all those classic storytale yeah pillars to keep it going.

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<v Speaker 2>But I actually remember Michael J. Fox talking about Back

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<v Speaker 2>to the Future and he had to explain to somebody

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<v Speaker 2>that it was a movie and not a documentary about

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma in eighteen seventy. Oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 24>But that sort of also ties into the amount of

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<v Speaker 24>letters the Coastguard got when Gilligan's Island was on. How

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<v Speaker 24>could they not rescue these people? How could you not

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<v Speaker 24>read all people sending in wedding gifts to neighbors and

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<v Speaker 24>things when someone when there's a marriage between some very

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<v Speaker 24>you know, some favorite people. Anyway, if you got anything

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<v Speaker 24>you need to let go, I've always got something I

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<v Speaker 24>should let go.

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<v Speaker 14>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably, yes, Although it's interesting, you know, having had a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of time to reflect in recent years, I think

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<v Speaker 2>you do get things into proportion. Yeah, bit of age

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<v Speaker 2>and wisdom, I think, yeah, I don't know if it's wisdom.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just I sort of understand the motivations of some

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<v Speaker 2>of the people who've crossed my path. Oh, okay, and

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<v Speaker 2>I see them. There's a couple I can think I

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<v Speaker 2>want in particular, who I would regard as an interesting study.

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<v Speaker 2>Perhaps not in the way people would think.

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<v Speaker 24>But I suppose as regrets are like exclusively to people

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<v Speaker 24>you have had run in with. I mean, regrets are

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<v Speaker 24>you know, a lot turning left instead of right. There's

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<v Speaker 24>a whole bunch of things like that. But regrets do

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<v Speaker 24>little to know good. They weigh a person down. They

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<v Speaker 24>tend to put a burden on a person's conscience and

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<v Speaker 24>deprive them of even a little joys of life. That's

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<v Speaker 24>particularly if you get wound up and you're really obsessed

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<v Speaker 24>with them.

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<v Speaker 2>I try not to do that. There's some seminars I

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<v Speaker 2>went too many years ago. I was just inclined to

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<v Speaker 2>believe them at the time, but I go with it

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<v Speaker 2>more now. They said, we're all going over the falls

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<v Speaker 2>in a canoe, and I think, to a certain extent,

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<v Speaker 2>life is like that. You know, there are so many

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<v Speaker 2>things that happened that you can't directly control, so just

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<v Speaker 2>try not to take too many rocks.

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<v Speaker 24>Yeah, it's funny how you'd explaining that. Just reminded me of,

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<v Speaker 24>probably near the end of Parenthood, the Steve Martin film

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<v Speaker 24>Neary Steve Brgin.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's a film, but I haven't seen it.

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<v Speaker 24>Well, it's beautiful because Steve Martin is so obsessed with

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<v Speaker 24>things going in the family, and then the old granny

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<v Speaker 24>comes in just says something to the effect of life

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<v Speaker 24>is like being on a roller coaster. You just you know,

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<v Speaker 24>you just don't know where it's going in the thrills

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<v Speaker 24>of this and that. And suddenly Steve Martin gets it.

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<v Speaker 24>He sees everything going wrong in the family. All these

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<v Speaker 24>things culminate and you just hear the roller coaster sound

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<v Speaker 24>effects and him like the camera twisting around, and suddenly

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<v Speaker 24>he gets what the and because he dos is very

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<v Speaker 24>dismissive of what Granny said, but now he totally gets it.

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<v Speaker 24>And yeah, and then he just rides with it, which

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<v Speaker 24>was a real I think maybe a lot of people

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<v Speaker 24>saw that scene and didn't even quite get it right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 24>I just thought that was really compelling and it was

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<v Speaker 24>a good film.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I do enjoy Steve Martin's work, but I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>seen that particular movie.

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<v Speaker 24>Oh you should. It's it is a good and it's

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<v Speaker 24>a Ron Howard film, and it's got a really good

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<v Speaker 24>ensemble cast.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, oh, I think we need a break. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Chris says, hello, Dale, help you well, and as an elder,

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<v Speaker 2>I easily remembered every word in that song and sang along.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a little sad when thinking of a forty

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<v Speaker 2>year breakup, to be sure, But it's all about I

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<v Speaker 2>love you till the bluebells, till in green or something,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it. Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 24>I have a tendency of remembering music note for note,

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<v Speaker 24>but I never remember words. He never listened to the lyrics.

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<v Speaker 24>I just love the tune and yeah voice.

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<v Speaker 2>There are songs like that, of course, where the the

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<v Speaker 2>tune is one thing, but the lyrics giving a different

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<v Speaker 2>sort of message. A little said when thinking of a

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<v Speaker 2>forty you break up, to be sure, but happily not

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<v Speaker 2>overly so I am h oh. By the way, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>both you and Michael have great audio presents. Cheers old

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<v Speaker 2>timer Sydney Chris.

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<v Speaker 24>You're sending them. Sorry, they're sending us presents. You're sending

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<v Speaker 24>his presents and audio presents.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's p r e s in ce. Silly Joe says,

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<v Speaker 2>I make my Scottish Nan always had salt on her porridge.

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<v Speaker 24>I put it in when I'm cooking it even isn't

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<v Speaker 24>you put a pinch of salt in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think my granny used to do something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>put salt in the possage on the porridge.

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<v Speaker 24>Sorry, mate, say can you sorry?

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<v Speaker 2>Mike?

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<v Speaker 24>Can you just say you put orange juice in yours?

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<v Speaker 2>Again? Not orange juice? I don't like orange. Oh what

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<v Speaker 2>used to put in apple?

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<v Speaker 24>That's not how you make porridge, prune, that's not how

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<v Speaker 24>you make podgs mixes.

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<v Speaker 2>I have the ninety second porridge brown sugar and cinnamon flavor.

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<v Speaker 2>But that maybe there's not or it says you know

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<v Speaker 2>how you eat porridge. Maybe he's going for the like inflection.

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<v Speaker 24>Yeah, I like the plane porridge.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what mixes well. As long as it doesn't come

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<v Speaker 2>in a sheep's stomach, I can stomach it. Load it,

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<v Speaker 2>load it. Today's a good day, Mike.

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<v Speaker 24>It's also National Family Owned and Operated Businesses Day. Just

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<v Speaker 24>salute the family owned and operated businesses that have survived

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<v Speaker 24>over time despite numerous challenges and setbacks. Got a nice

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<v Speaker 24>little couple of little family owned businesses just up the

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<v Speaker 24>road from me that sell a bunch of things. Always

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<v Speaker 24>makes me wonder how they sort of stick around. But

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<v Speaker 24>because I sort of always walk past it and go

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<v Speaker 24>down to all these coals or woolies.

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<v Speaker 2>But there are some bakeries, for example, that you can

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<v Speaker 2>see the whole family working behind the counter.

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<v Speaker 24>I'll tell you what they've got. Probably the best apple pies,

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<v Speaker 24>Little apple pies.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 24>Today's also National Hydration Day, So get that whatever that

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<v Speaker 24>was you were drinking before, Mike, get another glass all

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<v Speaker 24>into you. It's a good idea to keep hydrated, obviously,

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<v Speaker 24>because it sort of wards off getting things like kidney

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<v Speaker 24>stones and things with keeping everything going.

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<v Speaker 2>Through and I want them, I hear ver, Well, you

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<v Speaker 2>had to pass one.

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<v Speaker 24>God, Mike, haven't I told you a story. I was

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<v Speaker 24>on air with Sharena when it did, and I was

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<v Speaker 24>seriously by the end of the show and I thought, no, no,

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<v Speaker 24>I'm not bailing, and I was. I was like hobbling

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<v Speaker 24>up because it was a bit of pre recorded.

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<v Speaker 2>At the end.

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<v Speaker 24>I'm not giving anything away. I'd get up it's eighteen

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<v Speaker 24>minutes to midnight, and then flapsed out on the floor

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<v Speaker 24>waiting for it the sort of finish and so I

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<v Speaker 24>could you know, but it actually pass Yeah, but it

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<v Speaker 24>actually passed by the time. The pain was gone by

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<v Speaker 24>the time it went off air.

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<v Speaker 2>But so you finally got rid of it.

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<v Speaker 24>Yeah, well I had to go and get it. I

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<v Speaker 24>ended up getting I had it twice and another time

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<v Speaker 24>I have to Actually.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember now you had it made into a signet ring,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't you.

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<v Speaker 24>That's the way. It's big enough anyway. So it's National

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<v Speaker 24>Hydration Data. It's a good idea to keep drinking water,

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<v Speaker 24>and water always has been my drink of choice, as

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<v Speaker 24>you know. Today's National Typewriter Day, zing.

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<v Speaker 2>One of them.

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<v Speaker 24>Yeah, I think a lot of people did. I learned

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<v Speaker 24>the like I can type full finger without looking at

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<v Speaker 24>the board. I doubt if I'd go very well on

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<v Speaker 24>a typewriter, But I always remember that because they've been around.

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<v Speaker 2>A fairwhile obviously, But well, I had one when I

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<v Speaker 2>was twelve. Yeah, so they've been around that long.

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<v Speaker 24>It well, fifteen seventy five, an Italian printmaker Francesco Rampazetto invented.

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<v Speaker 24>It was called the Little Tactile write, a machine to

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<v Speaker 24>quickly press letters onto paper. And I always remember that

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<v Speaker 24>Tom Hanks actually collects.

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<v Speaker 2>Typewriters, oh does he?

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<v Speaker 24>Yeah, Today's also Pink Flamingo Day. I'm just zipping through

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<v Speaker 24>these note because I'm run out of time. Pink Flamingo's Day.

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<v Speaker 24>This is to acknowledge the popular lawn ornament. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 24>doubt if i'd I don't know if i'd have one.

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<v Speaker 24>I like some kitch stuff. I wouldn't mind putting some

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<v Speaker 24>you know, you can get those little garden things of

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<v Speaker 24>Star Wars the garden, you know. I don't mind those

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<v Speaker 24>sort of things because I don't mind a bit of kitch.

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<v Speaker 24>I wouldn't want to put something in the front yard

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<v Speaker 24>that someone's going to walk by and sort of just

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<v Speaker 24>you know, I've grabbed that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I suppose that would happen, wouldn't it.

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<v Speaker 24>Yeah, Look, our neighborhood's pretty good. But it's also one

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<v Speaker 24>of those neighborhoods that if you have something you no

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<v Speaker 24>longer want, if you put it out the front, you'll

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<v Speaker 24>be guaranteed someone will you take it and reuse it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it's not a bad thing, No, that's a terrific thing.

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<v Speaker 24>So but even the backyard, Yeah, I got a nice

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<v Speaker 24>bushy backyard, so you know, yeah, maybe if I see

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<v Speaker 24>one in a k op shop, I might grab one,

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<v Speaker 24>but also start tying in with that day. It's also

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<v Speaker 24>National Pink Day. Pink Yeah, pink not as in the singer,

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<v Speaker 24>I was going to ask, but it's to actually celebrate

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<v Speaker 24>the meaning, history and beauty of the pale shade of red,

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<v Speaker 24>which is pink.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 24>Surveys in both the United States and Europe found pink

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<v Speaker 24>to be the most common associo with femininity. I suppose

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<v Speaker 24>you always do, like if someone has a little girl,

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<v Speaker 24>you'd buy a little pink.

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<v Speaker 2>Now are you allowed to do that?

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<v Speaker 17>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Though I would still do it.

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<v Speaker 24>I marry fashioned kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 2>As they said in the Monty Python movie, don't you

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a bit early to be imposing roles?

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<v Speaker 24>Not at all imposed immediately? Pink being a subject of

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<v Speaker 24>recent pop culture to interesting facts about the delightful shade

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<v Speaker 24>through time. The day celebrates all things pink. See if

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<v Speaker 24>I can pull someone out sixteen eighties. The phrase pink

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<v Speaker 24>colored in reference to the flowers is first recorded. Seventeen hundreds.

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<v Speaker 24>Men who went out wearing embroidered pink clothing were considered

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<v Speaker 24>masculine and fashionable. Mmm, yeah, how did that change? Seventeen

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<v Speaker 24>hundred oh nineteen forties. The baby Booners are the first

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<v Speaker 24>generation to have gender roles and the preference of the

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<v Speaker 24>signing them at birth, signifying pink infants, clothes for girls

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<v Speaker 24>and blue for buyers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what was that recent?

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<v Speaker 24>That recent back in the nineteen forties.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you're looking anxious. You don't have to go yet?

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<v Speaker 2>Or are you out of days?

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<v Speaker 17>Oh?

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<v Speaker 24>I thought were Oh no, I missed timing. I thought

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<v Speaker 24>it was eight. No, I was mistiming. I was looking

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<v Speaker 24>at the time thinking, oh, we've got to No. No, no,

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<v Speaker 24>I wasn't out of days.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. You've got director three minutes.

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<v Speaker 24>Actually curried through some of them, whereas I could have

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<v Speaker 24>actually talked a bit longer.

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<v Speaker 2>You can if you want to.

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<v Speaker 24>Yeah, yeah, But anyway, going back to pink Flamingo day,

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<v Speaker 24>because I rushed through that one. Yes, the pink Flamingo

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<v Speaker 24>is designed. It's been around since the late fifties. And

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<v Speaker 24>I suppose that ties in with that whole you know,

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<v Speaker 24>if you look at Leave at the beaver, that hole

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<v Speaker 24>was it the nuclear effects shut sorry, nuclear family.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to get you to come in earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>just so you could say that every time you mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>new nucular and I don't I thought you'd be worn

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<v Speaker 2>out by the end of the program. Now and then.

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<v Speaker 24>Nuclear like little shenanigans. Yes, yeah, in it was called

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<v Speaker 24>Don Thesten. He created the pink Flamingo while working at

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<v Speaker 24>Union Products. Two thousand and six, the production of the

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<v Speaker 24>flamingo stopped by Union Products. So that's that's a good

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<v Speaker 24>what's that sixty? That's like nearly forty years. So making

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<v Speaker 24>pink flamingos is probably a bit of a mainstay of

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<v Speaker 24>people's gardens.

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<v Speaker 2>Why have you thought of having one? I've never No,

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<v Speaker 2>I've never gone for that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 6>No.

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<v Speaker 24>Yeah, Well, anyway, this day has been around since two

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<v Speaker 24>thousand and seven. A guy called Dean Mazzarella. Lenn Musters

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<v Speaker 24>Mayor establishes June twenty three is Pink Flamingo's Day.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not totally against paddock art. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 2>you've got a paddock and you want to have a

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<v Speaker 2>rusting you know, old tractor, el tractor or something, I

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<v Speaker 2>approve of that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 24>Is that art or just the fact that you couldn't

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<v Speaker 24>be bothered to hauling off to the scrap metal.

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<v Speaker 2>It depends some paddocks. It obviously is art because the

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<v Speaker 2>paddock is groomed and there's the rusting tractor and others.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just who cares? Yeah, yeah, I've got a.

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<v Speaker 24>Couple of big earns that I have in my backyard,

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<v Speaker 24>which pretty much for Oh, actually I got something. I've

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<v Speaker 24>got a twelve foot shark in my backyard too.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we can talk about that if we get out

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<v Speaker 2>a chance a bit later.

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<v Speaker 24>It's actually is a big fiberglass shark, okay, which I

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<v Speaker 24>sort of got somewhere along the way. But back in

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<v Speaker 24>twenty ten, myke Cato manufacturing purchase of the copyright for

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<v Speaker 24>Little Mingos and continues to produce them. So they did

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<v Speaker 24>have that little gap between two thousand and six and

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<v Speaker 24>twenty ten. But someone else said, oh, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 24>give it a go and keep making the damned things.

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<v Speaker 2>Sharon says, it's pray for World Peace Day. Is that true?

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<v Speaker 24>I didn't see that one, But let me just go

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<v Speaker 24>outside and it's Sharon kneeling and some praying.

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<v Speaker 2>Sharon is just encouraging that. All right, that's been national

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<v Speaker 2>days him Dale. Thank you. Nicole Senior is a radio

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<v Speaker 2>host in the community realm commentator. She's on the line,

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<v Speaker 2>good morning, How are you, Hi, Mike, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fine, Thank you. I'm just interested in your opinion

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<v Speaker 2>about this sweeping gesture by the government. We're not sure

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<v Speaker 2>what the gesture looks like. But apparently under sixteen's will

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<v Speaker 2>not be able to access social media. I'm not even

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<v Speaker 2>sure how far that goes. I mean, can I still

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<v Speaker 2>look up odd websites? You know? I like to look

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<v Speaker 2>up these unusual news websites all over the place. I

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<v Speaker 2>suppose I can do that without having a picture taken

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<v Speaker 2>in my face. But you've gotten under sixteen in the household,

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<v Speaker 2>haven't you.

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<v Speaker 23>I do I have, Well, I've got an eighteen year

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<v Speaker 23>old and I've also got a seven year old, So look,

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<v Speaker 23>I think it's a great idea, But how they are

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<v Speaker 23>going to implement this, My mind bobbles how they can

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<v Speaker 23>do this. So, for example, at the moment, I can't

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<v Speaker 23>even set up a Spotify account for my seven year

2:25:55.600 --> 2:25:58.080
<v Speaker 23>old son, who listens to a lot of music he

2:25:58.160 --> 2:26:01.760
<v Speaker 23>has as a child the kid's Spotify account, but a

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<v Speaker 23>lot of the songs he listens to he finds on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 23>and I can't get it on the kids one, so

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<v Speaker 23>I have to create an account for him under one

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<v Speaker 23>of my email addresses. How on earth are they going

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<v Speaker 23>to stop children under the age of sixteen from accessing

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<v Speaker 23>social media? There's so many ways you can get around it,

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<v Speaker 23>like a cognition, like it's probably the only thing. But

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<v Speaker 23>that's overstepping the mark, don't you think?

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<v Speaker 13>I do you?

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<v Speaker 2>But before we get onto that, just tell me why

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<v Speaker 2>can't he access certain music as a seven year old?

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<v Speaker 2>Is because the music is not suitable for him? Or

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<v Speaker 2>is there something else that play?

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<v Speaker 18>Yeah, it could be.

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<v Speaker 23>It could be when they have a when he has

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<v Speaker 23>a child, the children's account, it's things. When I say children,

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<v Speaker 23>it's like the Wiggles, that kind of music, really young

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<v Speaker 23>kid kind of music.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's not going to be.

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<v Speaker 23>No no, And he plays games like he likes to

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<v Speaker 23>play things like Rodblocks and Minecraft and even Minecraft music

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<v Speaker 23>you can't find on the kids' YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 23>I account, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Had no idea, but here's what I think is interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Just imagine if you're eighteen year old tries to access

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<v Speaker 2>something on social media and the device says, and I

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<v Speaker 2>believe from tests run so far, sor are quite possible,

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<v Speaker 2>the device says, no, you're only fifteen. That's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be an issue for you, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 23>It would be an issue for me. I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 23>he looks a lot older than eighteen. He's got a

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<v Speaker 23>mustache and a little goady going on, So I don't

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<v Speaker 23>think he'd can't five a fifteen year old, but I

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<v Speaker 23>think for those kids that are quite baby faced, it

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<v Speaker 23>would throw off I'm sorry, you're not old enough to.

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<v Speaker 18>Access this, but in reality they are.

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<v Speaker 5>So what do they have to do?

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<v Speaker 23>Start uploading their birth certificates to prove it? Like, I

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<v Speaker 23>think it gets a little bit out of hand.

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<v Speaker 2>And how do you know it's their birth certificate not

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<v Speaker 2>when they borrowed from a mate?

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<v Speaker 23>Well, exactly right. I think there's Like I said, I

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<v Speaker 23>think they're going to find it very hard to manage

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<v Speaker 23>accessing social media for under sixteen, But I do. I

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<v Speaker 23>completely understand why, and I think it's the bullying. The

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<v Speaker 23>cyber bullying is probably the biggest thing, and I completely

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<v Speaker 23>and usly agree with it from that perspective, But it's

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<v Speaker 23>how do you manage it that's the hard part. Managing

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<v Speaker 23>it would be difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>I was looking at a story a few hours ago

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<v Speaker 2>that is blaming social media for eating disorders with teenage girls.

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<v Speaker 2>You think that's true? Yes?

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<v Speaker 23>And I can speak openly about that because one of

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<v Speaker 23>my closest friends, their daughter has gone through something very similar,

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<v Speaker 23>and that's due to influencers. Influences on Instagram, Snapchat, Facebook

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<v Speaker 23>maybe not so much Facebook. Facebook is more for the

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<v Speaker 23>older crowd, I'd say, other even TikTok. TikTok's another one.

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<v Speaker 23>All the influencers that are out there promoting you know,

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<v Speaker 23>health and fitness with the incorrect information and very unhealthy

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<v Speaker 23>levels of information to all this younger generation, which is

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<v Speaker 23>why I think they are trying to implement that age limit,

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<v Speaker 23>because after the age of sixteen, I think they've got

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<v Speaker 23>their head screwed on a little bit more. But it's awful.

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<v Speaker 23>I wouldn't say you would blame social media, but I

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<v Speaker 23>think kids need to understand.

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<v Speaker 18>That the stuff on social media is exactly that.

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<v Speaker 23>It's fake. It's not reality. It really isn't. I create

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<v Speaker 23>videos on TikTok all the time. You use filters, you

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<v Speaker 23>use music, you can there's so many different things you

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<v Speaker 23>can do in those platforms to make yourself look better,

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<v Speaker 23>looks thinner, looks fatter, whatever it might be, it's not real.

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<v Speaker 23>And I think kids at the under the age of

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<v Speaker 23>sixteen don't have that life experience and the understanding to

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<v Speaker 23>go that's a crap. Do you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 23>that's the.

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<v Speaker 18>Problem we've got.

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<v Speaker 2>On the other hand, what do you say to people

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<v Speaker 2>who say, oh, yeah, and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>at sixteen, they have to confront this having no experience whatever.

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<v Speaker 12>I think.

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<v Speaker 23>Look, one of my bosses quite a sad story, but

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<v Speaker 23>his daughter went through something similar at the same age,

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<v Speaker 23>about sixteen. She had an eating disorder and spend a

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<v Speaker 23>lot of time in hospital. And I was actually talking

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<v Speaker 23>to him about that on Thursday, and he said, it

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<v Speaker 23>is the most horrific experience for any family to go through,

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<v Speaker 23>especially at such a young age, when they don't quite

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<v Speaker 23>understand the consequences of watching all of these people online

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<v Speaker 23>and they can't articulate the difference between reality and what's real.

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<v Speaker 23>And the worst part is a lot of them are

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<v Speaker 23>famous actors and actresses, and you know, promoting huge amounts

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<v Speaker 23>of weight loss, and then a lot of them people

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<v Speaker 23>are saying, oh, that's a zampick or something like that.

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<v Speaker 23>I think, I don't know, it's just really toxic. At

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<v Speaker 23>the moment I know where to draw the line, I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 23>I'm a fallow not gone gone gone, but I'm forty

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<v Speaker 23>one years old. All these younger kids that don't have

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<v Speaker 23>the capability to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet there are certain themes that keep cropping up, not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily along the lines that we are discussing, but there's

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<v Speaker 2>one that says this insert whoever it is, well known,

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<v Speaker 2>star politician, whatever, was sued by the Reserve Bank for

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<v Speaker 2>giving this secret away. How it's possible to make money

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<v Speaker 2>in Australia without working. And I see this over and over,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know some of the people who are being

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<v Speaker 2>featured in it. The most recent one I saw was

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<v Speaker 2>Penny Wong. I'm not saying that I know Penny, but

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<v Speaker 2>I would bet the house on her not supporting this,

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<v Speaker 2>and yet nothing is done about it. So really, I

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<v Speaker 2>suppose because to be clear, you think it's a good idea, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but you don't know how they're going to go about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And so let me ask you this, if it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to the point where we all have to say who

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<v Speaker 2>we are you prepared to subbort it to that extent.

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<v Speaker 23>I struggle with AI. I have a massive fear of AI,

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<v Speaker 23>and I've seen it. I work for one of the

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<v Speaker 23>big four banks full time and it is constantly I

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<v Speaker 23>work in technology, so it is constantly discussed. The fear

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<v Speaker 23>of AI and especially video generated footage, and you know

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<v Speaker 23>it happens all the time. It's happening with a lot

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<v Speaker 23>of famous people saying, oh, I've seen them in a

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<v Speaker 23>video online. They've said that they're going to do this,

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<v Speaker 23>this and this, or they know agree with this or

2:32:37.800 --> 2:32:39.480
<v Speaker 23>don't agree with this, and it's like, oh, that was

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<v Speaker 23>not me. I never ever once did that. It's scary

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<v Speaker 23>how real it is. There are ways you can pick

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<v Speaker 23>up whether it's real or not, but you need to

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<v Speaker 23>understand the technology to do that. Most people don't. And

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<v Speaker 23>working as a voice actor, because I'm a voice actor too,

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<v Speaker 23>Working as a voice actor AI is one of the

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<v Speaker 23>biggest issues in that industry. So it's not a good

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<v Speaker 23>thing for anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>So if somebody could take your voice without your permission

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<v Speaker 2>and use it, yeah, correct. Yes, you also told me

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<v Speaker 2>when we discussed that we were going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>this on the program that you were concerned about a

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<v Speaker 2>I generated porno or nude pictures at the very least

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<v Speaker 2>of high school girls in particular, and how disastrous it

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<v Speaker 2>can be for them.

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<v Speaker 23>Yep, yeah, I think. Well, I've read on the news

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<v Speaker 23>recently there's been a couple of instances where footage has

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<v Speaker 23>been leaked around schools or university campuses of particular women,

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<v Speaker 23>and those women it was not them in that footage.

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<v Speaker 23>It was their face, but it was not their body.

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<v Speaker 23>And a lot of these pornographic sides are created by

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<v Speaker 23>males and distributed to other males. And the scary part

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<v Speaker 23>was the only reason why this particular person found out

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<v Speaker 23>about it was somebody she knew had seen it and

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<v Speaker 23>brought it to her attention, and she had no idea

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<v Speaker 23>that that was happening. And that's the scary part. If

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<v Speaker 23>you if you know someone that sees it, great, they

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<v Speaker 23>can bring it to your attention. But if you don't know,

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<v Speaker 23>you've got your face on someone else's body c circulating

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<v Speaker 23>around god knows where, that's scary. That is really scary.

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<v Speaker 17>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>In years gone by, a couple of my more ardent

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose female listeners thinking it through have sent me photographs.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's them, but the photograph has only been

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<v Speaker 2>from the shoulders down naked I'm talking about. But that

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't save them, now, would it.

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<v Speaker 23>No, it's not hard to DoPT something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's right, And so I guess they're thinking, Okay,

2:34:54.160 --> 2:34:55.920
<v Speaker 2>you know if he shows it to somebody else, do

2:34:56.040 --> 2:34:58.680
<v Speaker 2>somebody else won't know it's me. But now you can

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<v Speaker 2>basically create what you like and just toying around with AI.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the other day Dale was generating a picture

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<v Speaker 2>of Vladimir Putin writing a unicorn and Dale and Dale indeed,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was so easy to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Miss It was.

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<v Speaker 23>Because there's a lot of programs, and look, I'm not

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<v Speaker 23>dissing the programs. I use a lot of AI programs.

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<v Speaker 23>I love Chat GTP, I'm a massive fan of it,

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<v Speaker 23>and I also like the video content, so I use

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<v Speaker 23>Canvra a lot, and there is an AI option in Canbra.

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<v Speaker 23>But I think it all comes down to the integrity behind,

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<v Speaker 23>like of the person using the app. If you're going

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<v Speaker 23>to do it for good's you going to use it

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<v Speaker 23>for something like work related or something like that, I

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<v Speaker 23>think it's fine. But as soon as you start using

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<v Speaker 23>it for something that's going to damage someone's reputation, I

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<v Speaker 23>think there needs to be something in place for that.

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<v Speaker 23>And I can just imagine that the FEDS would be

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<v Speaker 23>up to their eyeballs and how the hell are we

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<v Speaker 23>going to manage this? Like, how are we going to

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<v Speaker 23>how are you going to legalize or make these things

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<v Speaker 23>illegal and actually manage it. From that standpoint, I don't

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<v Speaker 23>think you can. It's too much.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So you think the idea is good, but you

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's possible to pull it off.

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<v Speaker 23>I don't think it's possible to pull it off. I

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<v Speaker 23>think the idea is good, though.

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<v Speaker 2>Heah, all right, thanks Nicole. Thanks Mike Nicole Senior, who's

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<v Speaker 2>a radio host in the Community Spectrum and also a

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<v Speaker 2>to hear you. Thank you. Jean Maria clearly hasn't been

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<v Speaker 2>listening with around backing the hooties, hesbla, Hamas, etcetera. Uh

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