WEBVTT - Why it's time to increase GST 

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<v Speaker 1>Nine Podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, this is Neil Mitchell. Much to discuss today and

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<v Speaker 2>again I welcome your feedback. Neil Mitchell at nine dot

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<v Speaker 2>com dot A you. I want to talk today about kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they boys and girls? Or should they be called

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<v Speaker 2>awesome humans? I'd like to collect your stories from your schooling.

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<v Speaker 2>I can give you a list of when I was

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<v Speaker 2>whacked over the head by teachers. They certainly didn't think

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<v Speaker 2>I was an awesome human. Also today Donald Trump? Who else?

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<v Speaker 2>Housing and generational wars? And tax Now, first, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure we're going to like what I've got to say.

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<v Speaker 2>By all means screen blue murder in the email. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's time to increase the GST, the once

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<v Speaker 2>evil Goods and Services Tax. Put it up. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it should go from ten percent to fifteen percent, but

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<v Speaker 2>only if there is a serious tax change along the

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<v Speaker 2>way with it. The GST is twenty five years old

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<v Speaker 2>in July July one next week, and it needs dusting off,

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<v Speaker 2>rethinking increasing. It's tired, its benefit is waning. Now. Option

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<v Speaker 2>would be to extend it to areas that are exempt,

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<v Speaker 2>like food, but I don't like that idea. Food is

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<v Speaker 2>expensive enough and it's not optional. You've got to eat.

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<v Speaker 2>Extending the current tax would of course put the price

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<v Speaker 2>up of most things if you increased it. But here's

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<v Speaker 2>the caveat to that, and it comes down to trusting government.

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<v Speaker 2>If the GST is increased in the areas that already exist,

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<v Speaker 2>governments must must make significant adjustments to tax in other areas. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't a plan to increase taxation, it's a plan

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<v Speaker 2>to collect it Differently. Twenty five years ago, when the

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<v Speaker 2>GST came in, the wholesale sales tax was dumped, and

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<v Speaker 2>the states fiddled around the edges. They cut a few,

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<v Speaker 2>not enough. The figures are pretty telling. The GST brings

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<v Speaker 2>in about ninety billion dollars a year at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Income tax that's you and me three hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five billion, corporate tax one hundred and thirty three binion. Now

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<v Speaker 2>those income and corporate taxes both keep increasing and both

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<v Speaker 2>reduce aspiration and productivity. Why work more if the taxman

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<v Speaker 2>is going to get most of the overtime. The GST

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<v Speaker 2>you pay only when you buy, and it's not on

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<v Speaker 2>the necessities of life. They're not all luxuries, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>not on necessities. Tax is absurd A friend recently bought

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<v Speaker 2>a new car, admittedly was expensive about ninety thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>but he paid just on eighteen thousand in taxes, partly

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<v Speaker 2>to protect an industry that no longer exists. Eighteen thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars nonsense. If the GST increases to fifteen percent, presumably

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<v Speaker 2>it'll then bring in around what would it be, about

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and forty one hundred and forty five billion,

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<v Speaker 2>so and going up as people bought more. So what

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<v Speaker 2>the government would need to do is this, cut income tax,

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<v Speaker 2>raise the thresholds. That's what happened when it was introduced

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<v Speaker 2>to it again, cut corporate tax, dump absurdities like the

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<v Speaker 2>luxury car tax. And this one's the key. Require the

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<v Speaker 2>states to dump or slash stamp duty on property and

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<v Speaker 2>also land tax. That's pretty difficult. Mixed the extra GS

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<v Speaker 2>money a GST money wouldn't cover all loose, but it

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<v Speaker 2>could be a start. At least index tax rates, get

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<v Speaker 2>rid of brack of creep, at least reduce significantly stamp

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<v Speaker 2>duty on property. Stamp duty brings in about twenty billion

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<v Speaker 2>dollars combined in New South Wales and Victoria. So they're

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<v Speaker 2>never going to give all that up, but stamp duty

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<v Speaker 2>cripples real estate. It's a disincentive to move, and which

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<v Speaker 2>would actually free up housing stock if more people moved.

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<v Speaker 2>Its combined effect is to force up the price of houses,

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<v Speaker 2>and that prices generations X, Y, and Z out of

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<v Speaker 2>the market. Houses are described as being impossibly unaffordable. I

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<v Speaker 2>would say they are atrociously unaffordable. Younger generations are paying

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<v Speaker 2>the price for that. Increasing the GST seriously, reforming the

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<v Speaker 2>tax system, not just fiddling with it, is a starting point.

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<v Speaker 2>And how good would it be to require all those

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<v Speaker 2>big corporations who pay no tax to pay their fair share.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one of the obsentities in the system. However, I repeat,

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<v Speaker 2>the GST is the starting point. We're at ten percent.

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<v Speaker 2>At the moment. New Zealand is fifteen percent. The European

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<v Speaker 2>average is twenty two percent. We should increase it ourselves

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<v Speaker 2>to fifteen percent, but only with a cast iron guarantee

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<v Speaker 2>written into legislation, a strong, unbreakable, sensible guarantee. The GST

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<v Speaker 2>goes up, other tax goes down. This isn't a plan

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<v Speaker 2>to bring the government back to surplus. They can begin

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<v Speaker 2>that with some sensible financial management by ending the waste.

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't a plan for surpose. It's a plan for efficiency,

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<v Speaker 2>for productivity, for fairness, for decency, and I believe a

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<v Speaker 2>better deal for the average person. Now this is related

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<v Speaker 2>a little generational wars of STUF in Australia, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>already getting nasty. More than that, the government, federal governments

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<v Speaker 2>picked sides and many believe it is now going after

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<v Speaker 2>the boomers a tax attack. People I've spoken to in

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<v Speaker 2>the finance industry believe that's begun and will build into

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<v Speaker 2>a full on attack. Now I doubt that. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that, but the political decisions have been made. Boomers

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<v Speaker 2>no longer have the majority influence at the polling booth,

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<v Speaker 2>so instead the government looks to seduce the millennials, that's

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<v Speaker 2>Generations X, Y and Z and get their vote. It's

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<v Speaker 2>sensible politics. And the Federal Treasurer Jim Chalmers is already

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<v Speaker 2>talking about what's got to be done to address what

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<v Speaker 2>he calls intergenerational justice. Inter generational justice. So sadly, at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time as developing online and in the community,

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<v Speaker 2>a deep resentment of the boomer generation. And remember the

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<v Speaker 2>youngest boomers are sixty this year. Too often boomers are

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<v Speaker 2>seen as greedy, as privileged, having built their wealth through

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<v Speaker 2>being crooks and gaming the system. That's clearly nonsense. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>there are boomer crooks. There are in all generations, but

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<v Speaker 2>most have built their wealth at whatever level by hard work,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's got to be said, good luck. That means

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<v Speaker 2>any comparison by generations X, Y, and Z are not pretty.

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<v Speaker 2>As I mentioned earlier, housing is a key issue in this.

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<v Speaker 2>Housing is impossibly unaffordable. Sydney's got the highest ratio of

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<v Speaker 2>annual earnings to house prices in the world. When boomers

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<v Speaker 2>bought their first house, it was probably the equivalent of

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<v Speaker 2>two or three, maybe even four years salary. Interest rates

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<v Speaker 2>were higher, but borrowings are smaller. It's now up to

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<v Speaker 2>twelve times annual earnings to buy a house the value

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<v Speaker 2>of a house. That makes it impossible for a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people. Now, as I said a moment ago, the

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<v Speaker 2>government could deal with this. They could dump stamp duty,

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<v Speaker 2>they could encourage decentralization, they could drop the land tax

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<v Speaker 2>and every other impediment to housing as part of my

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<v Speaker 2>GST argument, but there's more, and this one is contentious.

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<v Speaker 2>They could cut immigration austraight As population has grown by

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<v Speaker 2>forty percent since the year two thousand, our housing stock

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<v Speaker 2>has gone backwards and become impossibly unaffordable, ridiculously expensive. Governments

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<v Speaker 2>have got the levers to pull, but they won't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>On my podcast this week, Neil Mitchell asks why which

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<v Speaker 2>has posted every Tuesday. I spoke to two experts in housing.

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<v Speaker 2>They agree the government could make houses more affordable, but

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<v Speaker 2>lack the will. Head of research at Domain, doctor Nicola Powell,

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<v Speaker 2>was one of them. Scott O'Neill, a property investment expert,

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<v Speaker 2>was the other. Both had ideas on how to get

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<v Speaker 2>prices down. Both the greed immigration was a problem and

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<v Speaker 2>well look at it. Austraight as population increase forty percent,

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<v Speaker 2>as I said since two thousand, it has to be

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<v Speaker 2>a problem. Here's what these sir doctor Powell and Scott

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<v Speaker 2>O'Neill said about immigration and housing prices. But are you

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<v Speaker 2>suggesting we should link immigration or popular growth to housing

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<v Speaker 2>supply and there's no houses available therefore no immigration this year.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it should be something that is highly considered.

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<v Speaker 3>We get it.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll never happen because immigration covers up recession.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, so it would never happen. So then it goes

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<v Speaker 3>to how we actually can stimulate the supply of new homes,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's where you need those policies. So it might be,

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<v Speaker 3>for example, we've got a wave of new first home

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<v Speaker 3>buyer policies coming into place. It should be things like

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<v Speaker 3>stimulating first home buyers and steering them towards new to

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<v Speaker 3>help stimulate the construction of new home.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm still looking for the emerging generations. Get somebody

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<v Speaker 2>to blame that can blame the boomers? Can they blame

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<v Speaker 2>immigration as well? And immigration is a very positive thing

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<v Speaker 2>for the country in many, many, many ways. But can

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<v Speaker 2>they blame immigration for the fact that housing is what's

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<v Speaker 2>the term term possibly unaffordable?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, look, I think that can because there's a million

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<v Speaker 4>extra people in the last twelve months as well in Australia,

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<v Speaker 4>so that's a very strong increase three and a half percent.

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<v Speaker 4>So we haven't we haven't introduced the same level of

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<v Speaker 4>supplier as Nicklobe mentioned, and there's no chance that we're

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<v Speaker 4>going to be keeping up with the next wave as well.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, you keep falling forward further and further behind.

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<v Speaker 2>If there's one hundred people trying to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know buy fifty houses. Prices are going to go up,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's what we're up against.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course, in the real world it's easier to

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<v Speaker 2>blame the boomers. It could be a slogan, couldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>got a problem, blame the boomers, But really it's not

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<v Speaker 2>their fault. Boomers were lucky in the housing market. You

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<v Speaker 2>can't blame them for that. They worked within the system

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<v Speaker 2>and once they had a foot in the door, they

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<v Speaker 2>watched their house price grow. That is lucky. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>cash to that, of course, with some people ignore if

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<v Speaker 2>their house has gone up significantly, so with others, so

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<v Speaker 2>they might want to downsize or move. They sell their

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<v Speaker 2>house for a lot more than they pay, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>paying a lot more for the new place, plus a

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<v Speaker 2>whack of stamp duty. For many people, houses are more

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<v Speaker 2>just paper profits, not real profits, not dollars in the bank. Still,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a shortage houses, a run affordable. Boomers are being blamed.

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<v Speaker 2>Some commentators now describe it as a national emergency. There

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<v Speaker 2>are leavers to pull. That involves tax reform, It involves

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<v Speaker 2>cutting immigration, which will mean statistically we could head into recession.

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<v Speaker 2>But the urban azy government has shown no real sign

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<v Speaker 2>of being strong enough to do any of these things.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're probably there for six years. We've got to

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<v Speaker 2>live in hope they can see sense and growsome courage. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps a little respect to boomers. Yes they've made mistakes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes they are passing on a fairly disturbed old planet,

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<v Speaker 2>but they've done a lot of good along the way,

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<v Speaker 2>and they've advanced humanity in many areas. The least they

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<v Speaker 2>deserve is respect. Okay, intergenerational justice, as I mentioned Jim Chalmers,

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<v Speaker 2>cause of that, what is it and the reality of

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<v Speaker 2>that wealth transfer. It's estimated they are about seven trillion

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<v Speaker 2>dollars to be trained tand half the private wealth in Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why I reckon the government will look at

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<v Speaker 2>a suite of inheritance taxes. Look out for the inheritance taxes.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll be hidden, That's what they'll be, and will be

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<v Speaker 2>done in the name of intergenerational justice. The government's got

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to act on this, by the way, and

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<v Speaker 2>they've had it before, but they haven't acted on their

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<v Speaker 2>newfound concern for intergenerational justice. There was before the Parliament

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<v Speaker 2>a thing called the Future Generation's Bill earlier this year

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<v Speaker 2>moved by the independent MP doctor Sophie Scamps. In the UK,

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<v Speaker 2>they say housing, employment, superannuation all loser issues for intergenerational justice.

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<v Speaker 2>Sophie Scamps had an idea to monitor that and plan

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<v Speaker 2>around it. She wanted a commissioner for Future generations. She

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<v Speaker 2>wanted regular reports on it. She wanted legislation to be

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<v Speaker 2>analyzed for its effects on future generations. All quite sensible stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened. The bill lapsed before the election. It lacks

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody seemed interested enough to even raise it during the campaign,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's only only now the Jim Charmers even talking

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<v Speaker 2>about it. By the way, as I said, he's not

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<v Speaker 2>talking about government efficiency. He's looking to raise more tax funds.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not throwing it back at you. There's a small

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<v Speaker 2>cut coming, but very very little. I wouldn't mind if

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<v Speaker 2>they raise the tax take, provided they spent it better.

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<v Speaker 2>But no government of any color has ever shown any

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<v Speaker 2>ability for doing that. They are inefficient, sloppy and wasteful.

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<v Speaker 2>They always have been. Now, like the rest of the world,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been watching anxiously what's happening in the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 2>For one reason, I got friends trapped in the year

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<v Speaker 2>in the war zone. But more. I worry what is

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<v Speaker 2>developing could erupt and involve the world. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump's unpredictable. His public statements give no real indication

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<v Speaker 2>of where he's headed. He's been throwing around obsentities in public,

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<v Speaker 2>which is very pecure. Doesn't worry him as very peculiar.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Donald Trump leaving the White House after he's

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<v Speaker 2>peace deal. He's ceased, far shattered and be worn. As

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<v Speaker 2>I said, there's an obscenity. We haven't cut it out

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<v Speaker 2>because I think it's important that you hear. The prison

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<v Speaker 2>of the United States wasn't mucking around. This is what

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump said.

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<v Speaker 1>Israel, as soon as we made the deal, they came

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<v Speaker 1>out and they dropped the load of Bob's, the likes

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<v Speaker 1>of which I've never seen before, the biggest load that

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen. I'm not happy with Israel. You know, when

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<v Speaker 1>I say, okay, now you have twelve hours, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>go out in the first hour and just drop everything

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<v Speaker 1>you have on them. So I'm not happy with them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not happy with Iron either, But I'm really unhappy

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<v Speaker 1>if Israel's going out this morning because the one rocket

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<v Speaker 1>that didn't land, that was shot perhaps by mistake that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't land. I'm not happy about that. We basically have

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<v Speaker 1>two countries that have been fighting so long and so

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<v Speaker 1>hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you understand that now it shows he's frustration. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it shows he's anger being made to look silly.

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<v Speaker 2>Said the war had been sorted by him. He was

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest president in the history of the world. Heaven

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<v Speaker 2>knows how he racks now, But he seems to be

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<v Speaker 2>blaming Israel more than Iran for the problems with the

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<v Speaker 2>ceasefar reality, Czech Iran is a terrorist state. They support murder.

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<v Speaker 2>Who would know how that country will react if this

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<v Speaker 2>goes on. I think I fear that this war is

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<v Speaker 2>going to ebb and flow for a long time and

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<v Speaker 2>will continue with this capacity to erupt. But I'm also

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<v Speaker 2>puzzled about this talk of a rules based order. Hearing

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<v Speaker 2>more and more about that now, the rules based order

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<v Speaker 2>that is something that surprisedly supposedly provides a stable and

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<v Speaker 2>sensible world under those rules. Many eminent lawyers are arguing

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<v Speaker 2>America acted illegally in bombing Iran's nuclear facilities. That may

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<v Speaker 2>be right, although it is entitled to respond to aggression,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's claimed Iran directly threatened the US that they

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<v Speaker 2>would activate sleeper cells of terrorists. States that I'm told

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<v Speaker 2>by lawyers is not sufficient justification. But Andrew Hasty, the

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<v Speaker 2>Opposition to events spokesman, former elite soldier, Unlike most of us,

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<v Speaker 2>he's actually been there when the bullets are flying. He says,

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<v Speaker 2>anybody talking of a rules based order is being nostalgic.

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<v Speaker 2>It's out of date. He says, it's gone sad though

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<v Speaker 2>it is. He says, for years countries like Iran, Russia, China,

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<v Speaker 2>North Korea have challenged that rules based order. He says,

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<v Speaker 2>Iran is a dangerous terrorist state and it shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>trusted and allowed nuclear weapons. That's the bottom line. Iran

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<v Speaker 2>is part of this terror conglomerate which it supports and funds.

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<v Speaker 2>It's part of a philosophy that says blatantly every jew

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<v Speaker 2>on the planet must die. It's already been issuing veiled

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear threats on social media. I find it puzzling to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about following a rules based order when we're faced

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<v Speaker 2>by this type of evil. It'd be lovely, be really

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<v Speaker 2>great if everybody followed the rules and behaved decently. Some

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<v Speaker 2>countries have not and do not. For Iran to have

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<v Speaker 2>his nuclear weapons would be terrifying. And if they don't

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<v Speaker 2>want them, really, why have they stockpiled large amounts of

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<v Speaker 2>weapons enriched uranium. It's just sure to being rich enough

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<v Speaker 2>to make a bomb, but at a point where there's

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<v Speaker 2>no civilian purpose. So why they're doing it? I suspect

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Hasty is right. The rules based order is long gone.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope not. We don't know the real implications for that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think he's right. Okay, let's change pace. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to collect stories from your schooling. Niel dot Mitchell

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<v Speaker 2>at nine dot com dot you drop me a line,

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<v Speaker 2>Kneel dot Mitchell at nine dot com dot you. Good teachers,

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<v Speaker 2>bad teachers, punishment, discipline, good memories, not good memories, kneeled

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<v Speaker 2>dot Mitchell at nine dot com dot you. I lot

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<v Speaker 2>you from teachers too. I don't know how you do

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<v Speaker 2>the job. The reason I want who was this? I reckon?

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<v Speaker 2>We're lucky this country is not packed full of dysfunctional

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<v Speaker 2>and dangerous kids. The New South Wales Teachers Federation has

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<v Speaker 2>advised teachers to stop using the terms in the class

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<v Speaker 2>boys and girls, so they can't stand in front of

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<v Speaker 2>the class and say good morning girls and boys, which

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<v Speaker 2>used to happen to us every day. Apparently that is

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<v Speaker 2>too gender specific. Maybe there are trans kids and the

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<v Speaker 2>prep grode. I just can't see the logic behind what

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<v Speaker 2>they want. They want to avoid gender specific terms and

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<v Speaker 2>suggesting said, this is what they want the teacher to

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<v Speaker 2>call the kids, Not girls and boys, but good morning

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<v Speaker 2>awesome humans. Really good morning awesome humans, or good morning superstars,

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<v Speaker 2>good morning change makers, good morning future leaders, good morning

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<v Speaker 2>epic humans. What a load of garbage? Look? Times have changed.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when I was a school the teacher who

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<v Speaker 2>belted kids across the backside with a t square and

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<v Speaker 2>it hurt. I remember the strap being brought. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>being belted with it myself. They think it at a

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<v Speaker 2>minimum six that hurt. I remember the teacher who found

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<v Speaker 2>new ways of torture. They'd make you if you'd the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong thing, like something evil, like talking when you shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>They make you lift your arms above your head and

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<v Speaker 2>wiggle your hands until he lets you stop. Just try it,

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<v Speaker 2>go and try it. That the pain is debilitating, you

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<v Speaker 2>want to stop. I remember teachers who couldn't speak English,

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<v Speaker 2>a particular gentleman other Yugoslavian shocking English trying to teach

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<v Speaker 2>us French. I remember good things. I enjoyed school, made

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<v Speaker 2>some great friends, friends for life. I did well. I

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<v Speaker 2>played around a bit and was disciplined. I worked hard

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<v Speaker 2>eventually and found out how to pass exams. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>learn much, but I passed exams. Point is, of course

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<v Speaker 2>there is no more corporal punishment. That's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, kids and teachers should treat each other with

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<v Speaker 2>equal respect. But I think those in New South Wales

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<v Speaker 2>tempted to follow instructions like calling the kids awesome humans. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>if you be better off concentrating on how to teach

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<v Speaker 2>properly and turning out kids who can read and count

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<v Speaker 2>and speak rather than pointless it all exercises in virtue,

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<v Speaker 2>signaling and social engineering. Neil dot Mitchell at nine dot

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<v Speaker 2>com dot a U. That's it for the day. Remember

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<v Speaker 2>this week's other podcast is available now. Neil Mitchell asks

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<v Speaker 2>why it's a dick dive into the housing market. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been described as a national emergency. It's been described that

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<v Speaker 2>houses are impossibly unaffordable. I love that term, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>leading into generational wars. The expert panel goes through the

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<v Speaker 2>reasons and the answers, like tax, immigration, poor planning, that's

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<v Speaker 2>just some of it. Government could fix it, but it won't,

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<v Speaker 2>so good luck if you Generation X, Y, or Z.

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<v Speaker 2>Next week, Inside the mind of Ian Baker Finch. He

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<v Speaker 2>was one of the top golfers in the world, suddenly

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<v Speaker 2>lost confidence, never recovered with an extraordinary public humiliation. How, why,

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<v Speaker 2>and what happens next with Ian Baker Finch and what

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<v Speaker 2>lessons do we take out of it? Neil Mitchell asks

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<v Speaker 2>why available in all the usual places,