Speaker 1: On two GB, four BC and network stations. This is
Speaker 1: a Australia Overnight with Phil O'Neil.
Speaker 2: So anyway, I woke up this afternoon towards the evening,
Speaker 2: and it was my wife's time to cook dinner. So
Speaker 2: I got up and I said, hello, honey, what's for dinner?
Speaker 2: And she said a potato? And I immediately thought I'm
Speaker 2: in trouble. When I was racking my brain thinking what
Speaker 2: did I do wrong? Because I'm pretty sure when I
Speaker 2: got home, you know, I made a coffee, cleaned the
Speaker 2: cancel atter tray, so I know pretty much done all
Speaker 2: of the functions that I have to do first thing
Speaker 2: in the morning. And I couldn't at all figure out
Speaker 2: what it was that I was in the doghouse for,
Speaker 2: because I mean, who serves their husband of potato for dinner?
Speaker 2: And you know where my mind immediately went. Did you
Speaker 2: ever see that movie with Matt Damon and the Martian
Speaker 2: where he was stuck on Mars and he didn't have
Speaker 2: any food, so I grew potatoes out of his pood?
Speaker 2: Do you know that that was the first thing I
Speaker 2: thought of. I thought, well, I must be in trouble,
Speaker 2: because that's it. I've got a potato for dinner and
Speaker 2: it came out of the air fryar and I said,
Speaker 2: what's with this? Some potatohn and she said, oh, nothing.
Speaker 2: You can put some lur pack on it if you want,
Speaker 2: and some salt. Oh Christ, I really am in trouble now.
Speaker 2: So I had the potato with the lur pack and
Speaker 2: the salt, and can I tell you, as God is
Speaker 2: my witness, it was bloody delicious. It was the best
Speaker 2: dinner I had had in a month of Sundays. Can
Speaker 2: I totally wreck amend to you if you've never done
Speaker 2: it and you're hungry and you're you haven't got time.
Speaker 2: We've been an air fryer, especially, whacked the potato in there,
Speaker 2: Whack some lur pack on it, bit of salt. It's
Speaker 2: a king's dinner. It was mag blood egnificent. Oh I
Speaker 2: thought I'd shared that with you because honestly, the good
Speaker 2: news is I'm not in the bad books. Hey what
Speaker 2: about this? You know we do this every Wednesday morning.
Speaker 2: It's Peeping Tom. And I've already got some suggestions. How
Speaker 2: this works is you come up with somebody, a name
Speaker 2: of somebody, an iconic TV character, preferably because they've always
Speaker 2: got the best stories. Somebody from around the seventies, eighties
Speaker 2: will take early nineties. We had Steve Wizard last week
Speaker 2: and boy did we get some great stories out of him.
Speaker 2: Andrew McFarland before that, and also Tony Bonner and as
Speaker 2: I mentioned before, what started off originally as an idea
Speaker 2: where it was a bit sort of like, let's have
Speaker 2: a bit of fun. You find somebody that was on
Speaker 2: a TV ad and then we'll have them on the yeah,
Speaker 2: get a quick story. This has turned into our very
Speaker 2: own radio version of Australian story because you get to
Speaker 2: find out these amazing stories, the backstories about these people
Speaker 2: that we've seen on the teller usually and we've loved
Speaker 2: them for years and years, but when you hear their stories,
Speaker 2: because when you've got longevity, you've got some great stories
Speaker 2: to draw on. But this is where you come in.
Speaker 2: You suggest someone that we track down and then by
Speaker 2: Friday we should hopefully have that person on the phone.
Speaker 2: We've been pretty good so far, I've got to admit,
Speaker 2: especially when we found Gabriel Richard's The Pleasure Machine and
Speaker 2: what a great story she had as well. A lot
Speaker 2: of people have been asking for the woman in the
Speaker 2: Sickham Rex ad, the ants pants ad. We're not going
Speaker 2: to get her. She if we could have got her,
Speaker 2: she would have been amazing because she's had a life,
Speaker 2: extraordinary life, married two different princes. I mean, who marries Okay,
Speaker 2: one prince is sure, two princes one of the chances
Speaker 2: of that. And I'm sure she didn't find them on
Speaker 2: Grinder or whatever the app is. So anyway, you suggest
Speaker 2: someone and we'll try and find them. And the texts
Speaker 2: are already coming through on this from Tony Hell Like Tony,
Speaker 2: here's some suggestions for you, Effie aka Mary Cristis. She
Speaker 2: would be great and she'd have some terrific stories and
Speaker 2: I imagine she's probably still recognized in you know, her
Speaker 2: day to day activities too. And somebody else said Vince Serrenti,
Speaker 2: the comedian, I like it a lot rabina beard made
Speaker 2: from par Moliv, the co par Moliv liquid commercials, remember
Speaker 2: the old are you're soaking at it?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: I don't know if she's still with us, but that's
Speaker 2: the other issue. Of course, we need somebody that is,
Speaker 2: you know, still with us. So suggest now if you
Speaker 2: could the text number zero four six, zero eight seven
Speaker 2: three eight seven three. Otherwise you can call one three
Speaker 2: one eight seven three. It'd be great to talk to
Speaker 2: you and on the text on the email rather overnight's
Speaker 2: at two GB. Who are we going to find this week?
Speaker 2: I'll always look forward to seeing what kind of suggestions
Speaker 2: that come through. Pete and Lithgo said, how about john Wood?
Speaker 2: John Wood used to live around the corner from me
Speaker 2: when I was working in Sydney on two SM in
Speaker 2: the eighties and I would live back in those days
Speaker 2: in Neutrabay in Sydney, and he lived just around the
Speaker 2: corner and I'd see him walking up the street and
Speaker 2: I always used to stick my hat out the window
Speaker 2: and go, oh, Quincy. And I could tell it Annoyd
Speaker 2: in because he looked at me like, yeah, I was
Speaker 2: on TV, but I was not the doctor from the
Speaker 2: TV show Quincy. And eventually interviewed him one day and
Speaker 2: I said, look, you know, I don't know if you
Speaker 2: know this, but I'm the guy that lived around the
Speaker 2: corner from you. I used to stick my hat out
Speaker 2: of the window whenever I saw you and go why Quincy,
Speaker 2: and he saw what was at you. We had a
Speaker 2: good laugh about it. But that was brilliant. So who
Speaker 2: else you got, What about Mulder or Scully? You know what,
Speaker 2: that's not impossible, David Dukovney, is not impossible. I like
Speaker 2: the cut of your jib. Whoever sent that one through,
Speaker 2: please keep your suggestions coming through zero four six to
Speaker 2: zero eight seven three eight seven three or one three
Speaker 2: one eight seven three on the phone. Here's the other
Speaker 2: thing I want to talk to you about, and I
Speaker 2: want your suggestions about this too. Anthony Alberizi, he had
Speaker 2: the chance, and it's not through any fault of his own.
Speaker 2: He did have the chance to try and catch up
Speaker 2: with Donald Trump at the G seven and he was bumped.
Speaker 2: And the reason why is because something's going down this morning.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump currently meeting with his national security team in
Speaker 2: the situation room. He's doing a bit of you know,
Speaker 2: guess what I'm up to kind of thing. But I
Speaker 2: don't want to guess what he's up to because it
Speaker 2: scares the pants out of me. But he's up to something,
Speaker 2: and whatever it is that he's up to, I think
Speaker 2: has to do with the Israel Iran conflict, and will
Speaker 2: bring you that throughout the morning, strap in folks. But
Speaker 2: to Anthony Albernezi, he wanted to put forward the case
Speaker 2: for Australia with the wards most powerful leader, you know,
Speaker 2: and he was looking forward to it. There's no doubt
Speaker 2: in my mind this was his big moment and it
Speaker 2: would be right. You've just been re elected as the
Speaker 2: prime minister in a landslide. You've just met up with
Speaker 2: the Canadian Prime minister and he's given you a big
Speaker 2: cowboy hat. So you've got you know, you've got the hat,
Speaker 2: and I guarantee you he's going to wear that hat
Speaker 2: when he met Trump. He would have done for sure,
Speaker 2: he would have won the ten worn the ten gallon
Speaker 2: stetson hat and sort of walked out and done the
Speaker 2: you know, the John Jarrett like we suggested, he does
Speaker 2: the guy fro him but Wolf Creek. He walks out,
Speaker 2: he's got the big ten gallon hat on and he's
Speaker 2: playing the hard man to Trump. Shakes Trump's hand and
Speaker 2: goes like the guy from Wolf Creek. He goes. You know,
Speaker 2: immediately Trump is on the back foot. You know who's
Speaker 2: the daddy. Now it didn't happen because he was left
Speaker 2: high and dry. So now our poor prime minister is
Speaker 2: in the situation where he's desperate and dateless. He's been
Speaker 2: brushed by the most powerful man in the world. Now
Speaker 2: he's got to go and seek advice from Greg Norman
Speaker 2: as to what to do next. And I want to
Speaker 2: ask you this because here's the thing. And if you've
Speaker 2: ever been desperate, you've got the stank of desperation and
Speaker 2: it's all over you and people can smell it, you know,
Speaker 2: when you are desperate, people can tell you're desperate. And
Speaker 2: I've got a feeling that I bore prime ministers in
Speaker 2: that situation. Now he's got the hat, he's got the
Speaker 2: you know, Wolf Creek laugh, got nobody to share it with.
Speaker 2: What would you advise Anthony Albanezi to do at this
Speaker 2: particular stage. Would you continue to keep trying to ring
Speaker 2: to see if you can get Trump on the phone
Speaker 2: or would you ghost him? Would you go? Now, you know, like,
Speaker 2: I'm going to have to play hard to get here
Speaker 2: because I'm really not there. I mean, it's through no
Speaker 2: fault on my own. I'm not in any position of
Speaker 2: power at all. Now I no longer have the hand.
Speaker 2: What would you suggest, because he's going to go and
Speaker 2: have a chat with Greg Norman, my suggestion would be,
Speaker 2: and it's I mean, god, this is you know you're
Speaker 2: playing a different game to anything like way out at
Speaker 2: my pay grade, my suggestion would be just you know, like,
Speaker 2: don't ring him, don't try and call, don't even send
Speaker 2: an email or even like one of his pictures on
Speaker 2: Facebook would be my advice. What would you do? What
Speaker 2: would you advise to beat to elbow if you could
Speaker 2: give him any one? Three one eight seven three look
Speaker 2: forward to hearing from him. I'm fill O Neil, and
Speaker 2: it's good to have you here with us. Nineteen minutes
Speaker 2: past midnight, Hallo, Jason, how are you? Jason sent me
Speaker 2: an email earlier on today and said, Phil, I do
Speaker 2: hope that you can continue giving the feel like temperatures.
Speaker 2: Do you know what's so funny? I thought, if anything
Speaker 2: that I do is going to annoy the hell out
Speaker 2: of you the most, it would be the well the
Speaker 2: temperature is, but it feels like. And I thought I
Speaker 2: could do it for a week, and I really thought
Speaker 2: I was stretching our friendship by continuing to do it
Speaker 2: up to Friday. I thought, that's some stage here someone's
Speaker 2: going to send me a text and go, you know what,
Speaker 2: if you don't stop doing that, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: listen to you anymore. And trust me, I get a
Speaker 2: lot of those texts and emails, but none on this one.
Speaker 2: So that's terrific. I appreciate that because Jason also said
Speaker 2: you can. He's given me some suggestions on where I
Speaker 2: can find the feels like temperature. So you know, as
Speaker 2: I say, it's your show, I'm merely a caretake it
Speaker 2: for this. But if you want me to continue to
Speaker 2: giving you the feels like temperature, well you know I'm
Speaker 2: absolutely going to live for that. One three one eight
Speaker 2: seven three. What advice would you give Albow right now
Speaker 2: while he's got this desperate and date, let's feel about it.
Speaker 2: And on the text, who are we going to suggest?
Speaker 2: And you can ring through to who can we suggest
Speaker 2: to get as our next Peeping Tom for Friday. I
Speaker 2: love this segment and I think this segment is going
Speaker 2: to go for a long time. Speaking of which, we're
Speaker 2: going to port the Rick Milne Antique segment on once
Speaker 2: a month for a little while because we feel that
Speaker 2: it needs a bit of a you know, refresh, and
Speaker 2: we would like to try it on a once a
Speaker 2: month basis. So based on that, you can also give
Speaker 2: me your feedback on that Overnights at two GB dot
Speaker 2: com text zero four six zero eight seven three eight
Speaker 2: seven three once a month, which gives us more chance
Speaker 2: to find some really quality stuff with Rick milntwo. But
Speaker 2: please give me some advice and some thoughts on that
Speaker 2: if you can. Albo got jilted at the ball. The
Speaker 2: only thing left is to turn into a pumpkin, says Joe. Phil.
Speaker 2: What about Kylie Male?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: Kylie Male? Who?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: Because I always confuse her with their feed and I
Speaker 2: know that who she is, but I don't know who
Speaker 2: played it. Could you tell me that, Phil? Maybe another
Speaker 2: candidate would be Leo Sayer. Thank you Tony who sent that.
Speaker 2: We did have Leosa on for our behind the song
Speaker 2: segment and he was fantastic and he's got some shows
Speaker 2: coming up to Thanks Tony for that text. As for
Speaker 2: Anthony Albanezi, what he should stop doing is talking or
Speaker 2: taking Kevin right to the to anywhere with his US
Speaker 2: ambassador role. Take Joe Hockey's advice or take up golf.
Speaker 2: Another advice for Albow. Come home, tidy at your room,
Speaker 2: put your lego away, brush your teeth and go to
Speaker 2: bed and leave for the rest of the stuff to
Speaker 2: the adults. Thank you, Rod for sending that to me
Speaker 2: to Here's one that came in from Scott Phil. What
Speaker 2: Albo should do is just resign and call the election
Speaker 2: for Australia's favor. Here's a really good peeping tom's suggestion
Speaker 2: that so far is leading the race. And it came
Speaker 2: in from Tommy who said, as a peeping tom, what
Speaker 2: about Steve Bisley who played Goose. Of course you said,
Speaker 2: you went on to elaborate the best friend of Mel
Speaker 2: Gibson and Mad Max. Tommy, don't need to tell us
Speaker 2: who Goose is. I saw they make a lot of
Speaker 2: those replica motorbikes that he had, and I saw somebody
Speaker 2: that had the replica of the motorbike, and I said,
Speaker 2: because it has all the paraphernalia on it, you know,
Speaker 2: the highway patrol thing, all of the badges on it.
Speaker 2: Apparently there was a lot of merchandise that went with
Speaker 2: the Mad Max franchise, and he would be brilliant. I'm
Speaker 2: certainly on the top of my list right now, Tommy.
Speaker 2: Is Steve Bill's busily. If we can get him on,
Speaker 2: that would be terrific. Let's get to the phone morning Ian.
Speaker 2: How are you mate, Phil? No, No, that's all right.
Speaker 2: I think you've got to be politically correct. Now, it's
Speaker 2: a person to in.
Speaker 4: I'm enjoying your show.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 4: I think of paving Tom, what about Tom Burns.
Speaker 2: And Man from Yeah, Man from Snow River.
Speaker 4: And a great impersonal singer of Frank Sinatra.
Speaker 3: Very very good.
Speaker 2: That's right. I remember he did that too, he was
Speaker 2: Did he sing any of.
Speaker 4: The acting in the clubs?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Very good.
Speaker 2: Did he sing any of the songs himself? I think
Speaker 2: he may have done. He may have picked up a.
Speaker 3: Couple I think he is. Yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in fact, Dale just confer that too. Although I'm
Speaker 2: going to be honest, just getting back to an I
Speaker 2: think it's a great suggestion. I've always thought you and
Speaker 2: I around the same age, and so we can appreciate that.
Speaker 2: I always thought that crooners were the laziest of the singers,
Speaker 2: because I mean, they're really just talking their way through it.
Speaker 2: And you know, if you can put on a tuxedo,
Speaker 2: you can be a crooner in my opinion.
Speaker 4: True, but sometimes they can't hit those low notes and
Speaker 4: those high notes too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're doing it properly, like Michael Boublay, But
Speaker 2: if you're just simply passing yourself off. You know. I
Speaker 2: mean I could be a crooner and you could be
Speaker 2: a crooner quite easily. Whack us into a time and
Speaker 2: I'm serious, whack us into a tuxedo, take us up
Speaker 2: to the Rudy hilarisl Sunday night and and it's all
Speaker 2: in the you know, you do the snapping of the
Speaker 2: fingers and you know, like come fly with me. Maybe
Speaker 2: that's not a great one. Let me think of another one,
Speaker 2: you know, but you know where I'm coming from. I'm
Speaker 2: right right, mate, nice I told you, thanks so much?
Speaker 2: One three, one, eight, seven threes the phone number like seeve,
Speaker 2: how have you been made?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: It was like, while we're on this topic of different
Speaker 5: people that put on to get their stories, who was
Speaker 5: the guy behind Tom the Furter?
Speaker 2: I think that's yeah Mitchell Mitchell, Mark Mitchell. It was, yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: would you like to get him on a couple of days?
Speaker 5: I think that would be that would be a gift.
Speaker 5: I think there was a story to tell.
Speaker 2: Did you ever see the episode of Extras with Ricky
Speaker 2: Gervais where he was on a sitcom? He hated it
Speaker 2: and his catchphrase was you're having a laugh? Do you
Speaker 2: remember that?
Speaker 5: But it sounds like the sort of thing Ricky gerves.
Speaker 6: Probably.
Speaker 2: Well, then the thing is what the whole point of
Speaker 2: it was When you're on a show where you've got
Speaker 2: a catchphrase, and catchphrases are what makes the show. You know,
Speaker 2: are you being said that's yes, I'm free, all that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff, but it becomes the bane of their lives.
Speaker 2: So it would be good to get him on and
Speaker 2: see how often and everywhere he goes. Whether people go
Speaker 2: a couple of.
Speaker 7: Days and I thought, yeah, as.
Speaker 2: Though they were the first person ever to say.
Speaker 5: It to them, you know, yeah, that's right, and he's
Speaker 5: never heard it. He hasn't heard it for the one
Speaker 5: thousand and millions time or something. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 5: I can see that, but just unders but easy.
Speaker 8: Look, I.
Speaker 5: Think the only realistic way that he might actually able
Speaker 5: to get any kind of hearing from the American administration
Speaker 5: is to actually be serious about things like defense, because
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, a lot of their they talk
Speaker 5: about America. First of all, they they want they're allies
Speaker 5: to step up to the plate, to use a sporting expression,
Speaker 5: an American sporting expression, the way that they are in
Speaker 5: terms of defense. Now, I think the pall was something
Speaker 5: like three and a half percent. Yep, something along that line.
Speaker 5: What's that about forty billion? Did I hear that figure
Speaker 5: for us? Apparently for defense?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I would say at least that'd be the
Speaker 2: stony at.
Speaker 7: Least around that.
Speaker 5: So if mister albin Easy actually wants to get mister
Speaker 5: Trump's attention apart from tweeting that on truth Social where
Speaker 5: he tends to live, I think that I think he
Speaker 5: needs to make some serious commitment there because not only
Speaker 5: is it finally would would they be more willing to
Speaker 5: at least give us a hearing, but it would be
Speaker 5: our interests. But I'm not even sure where the mister
Speaker 5: albineasy be thinking of our interests right now.
Speaker 2: Well, you know this is what everyone has been on
Speaker 2: this show. I know for a fact, has been banging
Speaker 2: on about, well what about defense? And you know Donald
Speaker 2: Trump is saying, as the good Professor himself says, I
Speaker 2: like to quote his quote, that there are no guarantees
Speaker 2: and Professor Flint is going to talk about this again
Speaker 2: later on this morning. And also the fact that you
Speaker 2: know the Chinese got there, have their warships going in
Speaker 2: or their boats going into the Pacific coming closer and
Speaker 2: closer to us. So the professor says, there are no guarantees.
Speaker 2: And that's what Donald Trump essentially is saying to We
Speaker 2: keep banging on over and over and over about defense,
Speaker 2: but the message doesn't seem to be getting through.
Speaker 5: I wonder if there is a cynicism from some and
Speaker 5: I mean some that sort of says, well, defense usually
Speaker 5: says every other day of the week or every other
Speaker 5: time of the year where there's some kind of review, Look,
Speaker 5: we'd like to have more money, and it's always a
Speaker 5: money thing with defense. But I think that there is
Speaker 5: actually real need now to deal with that. I mean, yes,
Speaker 5: that we've got the August thing, but that's for years
Speaker 5: down the track. I mean, you can see it now.
Speaker 5: Will at detentions to the middle least. You're right to
Speaker 5: mention China and Taiwan. That's a ConFlat that's going to
Speaker 5: go on, that's going to kick off at some point.
Speaker 5: We don't know when. And I think that by us
Speaker 5: not spending something in that region that we just talked
Speaker 5: about in reference to defense, by not doing that, we're
Speaker 5: shooting ourselves, to use an expression in the foot, and
Speaker 5: I don't think that's a great idea good stock you.
Speaker 2: Film, touch you SEV. Thank you so much. One three
Speaker 2: one eight seven threes a phone number. Text us on
Speaker 2: zero four six zero eight seven three eight seven three
Speaker 2: and on the email overnight it's at two GB dot com.
Speaker 2: Let me get to a couple of emails. David sent one.
Speaker 2: Kylie Mole was played by mary Anne Faye. Well, thank you,
Speaker 2: that's good to get onto that. And Russell, how are you? Phil?
Speaker 2: I'm trying so hard to stay a listener, but you're
Speaker 2: killing me. I switched stations when you gibbered on the
Speaker 2: last one you worked on, and then I turned back
Speaker 2: when the music was on. Now you're killing this program.
Speaker 2: Talk less and let the listeners talk more. You're annoying.
Speaker 2: The antique segment was one of the best monthly is ridiculous,
Speaker 2: says Russell. Well that's fine, Russell, But the thing was
Speaker 2: we were getting like an average of two to three
Speaker 2: calls per show, where you know, essentially we were Rick
Speaker 2: and I were you know, shooting to shoot as you do,
Speaker 2: hoping that people would bring in, and you know, like
Speaker 2: the periods between calls were stretching longer and longer, and
Speaker 2: we thought, well, hang on a minute, you know, are
Speaker 2: people shooting into here the teks or are they hearing
Speaker 2: us just feel? So that's where we were, aut Russell.
Speaker 2: There was just a lot of feel going on there.
Speaker 2: So we thought, okay, for the benefit of the listeners,
Speaker 2: why don't we just give it a bit of a rest,
Speaker 2: bring it back in monthly and see how it goes,
Speaker 2: and then ask for your advice. I mean, I appreciate
Speaker 2: your advice. Perhaps that was my own stupid, you know,
Speaker 2: my own stupid idea of asking you for your advice,
Speaker 2: because Russell, you gave me not just an inch but
Speaker 2: an entire block. But thank you for your feedback anyway,
Speaker 2: I think. But yeah, so that's where we're at with
Speaker 2: that at the moment. But also you can keep your
Speaker 2: feedback coming through, but be nice. I mean, christ Russell,
Speaker 2: I'm a human being, you know, and I could spend
Speaker 2: all night here, you know, from midnight till five thirty
Speaker 2: in the morning, trying to entertain you there all day
Speaker 2: working on guests, and I'm bloody tired. And you know,
Speaker 2: when you send emails like that which are really rude, mate,
Speaker 2: that's not necessary, you know. I mean, imagine if I
Speaker 2: sent you an email or a brewd text like that
Speaker 2: because you served me in a shop rather than say, mate,
Speaker 2: your service was a bit rubbish. I go, mate, you're
Speaker 2: just killing the barista industry. Char I'm coming from. Imagine
Speaker 2: your kid was me working at a radio station and
Speaker 2: you sent an email like that somebody does to your kid.
Speaker 2: It's not nice, is it? Really?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Let's just be nice for a change, shall we? Twenty
Speaker 2: nine to one, Hello Vicky, how are you? Thank you
Speaker 2: so much for your text? This one that came in
Speaker 2: from Chris Albow, like a growing number of Western leaders,
Speaker 2: is not interested in meeting him. This is obviously talking
Speaker 2: about Donald Trump here. Trump has enough imphsis to deal with.
Speaker 2: And yeah, Chris, Hey, Chris, I'll get onto your call
Speaker 2: a bit later. We didn't get you last night, but
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. How about everybody's favorite guitarist singer from
Speaker 2: the eighties who turned up randomly on TV in the afternoon,
Speaker 2: Trevor Filewood. I don't know Trevor Filewood and it doesn't
Speaker 2: ring a bell, Paul, but I appreciate that. Mary said,
Speaker 2: maybe albowshe have gone to Washington and met with Trump
Speaker 2: months ago, like the other world leaders have already done.
Speaker 2: Instead of piggybacking on the G seven. I expect he
Speaker 2: relieve not to be seeing Trump in Canada, says Mary.
Speaker 2: Here's one suggestion Adie's heart throb Alex demetriartists would be good.
Speaker 2: Wonder what he's been up to for the Peeping Tom segment?
Speaker 2: What about Donald Trump and and Cad Albow who were interviewing.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Shane Peter at Lithgo says, how about you
Speaker 2: get doctor Harry on Albow? Should ask Scott Morrison if
Speaker 2: he'd be kind enough to negotiate. He managed to negotiate
Speaker 2: Orcas said Kerry, and Vicky also likes the idea of
Speaker 2: once a month with the show that we're going to
Speaker 2: do with Rick Milne. Please keep your suggestions coming through,
Speaker 2: but also please be nice, as I'm saying to you. Michelle,
Speaker 2: who just texted me, are you serious? Are you going
Speaker 2: to waste another hour take talking this cramp about stupid
Speaker 2: Peeping Tom? Looks like the ABC again, so we'll just
Speaker 2: hang on a sec. Good. Michelle's turned the radio off.
Speaker 2: Not to be confused with this. Michelle, how are you.
Speaker 9: Oh that's set up? Didn't give it up by the day.
Speaker 2: Good? Now you've got some footy tips for us, and
Speaker 2: people want to hear it because a lot of people
Speaker 2: are very happy Michelle with your footy tips from last week.
Speaker 2: And everybody is pretty much on an agreement here that
Speaker 2: you are on a winner.
Speaker 9: Go Ah, jeez, that's good tonight. But I must say
Speaker 9: there's one little person that doesn't seem to agree. Your
Speaker 9: little friend Gary, Why does he always have a go
Speaker 9: at me? Last night? He said that I was wrong
Speaker 9: about dead Hasler being a manly boy. Right, oh my god.
Speaker 9: So I'm going to correct him if you don't.
Speaker 2: Mind, please, by all means.
Speaker 9: This is he obviously thinks I have no idea about NRL.
Speaker 9: I may not, but I know a thing or two
Speaker 9: about Manly. Anyway, I'm going to get it off my chair.
Speaker 2: No, please, by all means. It seems that everybody wants
Speaker 2: to vent a little spleen at the moment. So if
Speaker 2: you wish to do that, by all means, you have
Speaker 2: the floor. What else would you like to say to
Speaker 2: defend yourself.
Speaker 9: To say I said Haslar was a manly boy. In fact,
Speaker 9: he had his best years at Manly, Thanks Gary, and
Speaker 9: he won Premier shups while he was playing for Manly.
Speaker 9: I'm happy for Gary to correct me, but I was
Speaker 9: correct on this front, and yes, Gary is correct. He
Speaker 9: started his career at Penris, but he spent most of
Speaker 9: his playing career with Manly Seagulls, and he won premierships
Speaker 9: Inning nineteen eighty seven and nineteen ninety six. So Gary,
Speaker 9: tell me I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: Maybe he will, Maybe you'll bring you up. Are you
Speaker 2: sure of your facts on? I believe you, as you know.
Speaker 2: I'm on your side.
Speaker 9: And he's also coached Manly. I don't think he coached Penris.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, well I'm going to I'd back you up
Speaker 2: all the way as you know, as you know, unless
Speaker 2: you've got it wrong, which case when you're not here
Speaker 2: and I'm talking to him, I'll go, yeah, you're right mate.
Speaker 9: Hey, your allegiance should be sneak. So next time he
Speaker 9: has a guarup there, you can say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I would have backed you up, but I
Speaker 2: know nothing about NRL. Otherwise I would have said that.
Speaker 10: I would have said, maybe you're learning.
Speaker 2: Why do you think I might at midnight till five
Speaker 2: in the morning so I can learn how to do
Speaker 2: it properly, so one day I can be a contender.
Speaker 2: During the daytime.
Speaker 9: This is the training wheel.
Speaker 2: These are the training hours everybody. This is where people
Speaker 2: go to learn. I don't put you on midnight to
Speaker 2: five thirty am if you're any good?
Speaker 9: Well, how come Dale's been there for so long?
Speaker 2: Again, Let's go through the tips and see what we've
Speaker 2: got here. Okay, Tigers versus Raiders. Everybody, get your pens
Speaker 2: out because this is an important round this week. Tigers
Speaker 2: versus Raiders.
Speaker 9: Who we got Yes, here, we got our raiders.
Speaker 2: Right, got that? Okay, although they're not playing at home,
Speaker 2: but it doesn't matter. Warriors versus Panthers.
Speaker 9: You know they're playing the Tigers day Why did you?
Speaker 9: Why did you question the Raiders there? Anyway? Are we
Speaker 9: going to Warriors this time?
Speaker 2: Don't listen to anything I say. You know that because
Speaker 2: I just you know if I say anything, it's wrong.
Speaker 2: Dolphins versus Knights.
Speaker 9: Dolphins, I was waiting for you to step in anything.
Speaker 11: I just told you I'm not going to I know,
Speaker 11: I know you.
Speaker 9: Don't want anything to do with it. Only and the
Speaker 9: only time you'll take credit is if.
Speaker 2: We get a good on that second? Why are you
Speaker 2: why are you having a go at me now?
Speaker 9: I'm cranky I've got a cold. That's my excuse.
Speaker 2: All right, Well I forgot where we're at. Dolphins versus
Speaker 2: Night Yeah, Dolphins, okay, rabbitized versus Storm, Storm, Bronchos versus Sharks, Bronchos,
Speaker 2: Roosters versus Cowboys, and the last time I'm going to
Speaker 2: get you to the Eels and Titans.
Speaker 9: What do you reckon?
Speaker 2: No, don't ask me.
Speaker 9: We were talking about this just before. Let's say, if
Speaker 9: you've learned anything.
Speaker 2: Who eels?
Speaker 9: Oh my gosh, it's.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm putting Titans down. Don't cough at me. Hey, MICHELLELS,
Speaker 2: we love you, Thank you. We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 2: Have a good weekend. And that seems silly, Well we'll
Speaker 2: talk before you but then, but yeah, it seems weird
Speaker 2: offering somebody the opportunity to have a great weekend on Wednesday.
Speaker 2: But here we are, all right, coming up to nineteen
Speaker 2: minutes to one. Keep those suggestions coming through. We've got
Speaker 2: to make an idea. We've got to have a guess
Speaker 2: in just a moment. We've got to make a decision
Speaker 2: on this week's Peeping Tom. Enjoying your texts that are
Speaker 2: coming through. Please keep them coming. This way as well.
Speaker 2: Zero four six zero eight seven three eight seven three
Speaker 2: call me on one three one eight seven three. Russell
Speaker 2: just sent me a nice email, so we're friends again.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bit cranky today. I don't know why. Maybe
Speaker 2: it's because I only had a potato for dinner. It's
Speaker 2: just difficult when you get out. I'm not God. I
Speaker 2: want to be a complainer, but I'm going to just
Speaker 2: vince clean here. It's just difficult when you get out
Speaker 2: of bed first thing in the afternoon, at three o'clock,
Speaker 2: at the crack of three, and you know you've been
Speaker 2: working all night. You open your emails and it's just
Speaker 2: full of this vitriol. You know, I don't like your show.
Speaker 2: It's well, just come in here and do it yourself.
Speaker 2: Then you know you stay awake all night. Here's I
Speaker 2: told you I was cranky. Here's what we know. Israel
Speaker 2: and Ryan have ramped up their missile attacks as the
Speaker 2: world waits to see what action US President Donald Trump
Speaker 2: will take. After leaving the G seven summit in Canada
Speaker 2: a day early because of the intensifying hostilities in the
Speaker 2: Middle East. As you know, he was due to catch
Speaker 2: up with Elbow didn't catch up with Elbow. So where
Speaker 2: Albow goes from here, I don't know. And if you
Speaker 2: have any ideas, any suggestions, any advice you'd give Elbow
Speaker 2: as a mate, what would you tell him? Don't try,
Speaker 2: don't keep calling. It's like when someone's broken up with someone,
Speaker 2: isn't it just Or even when you've just met someone
Speaker 2: in the bar and you know you've got their number
Speaker 2: and you want to keep bringing them like that that
Speaker 2: scene from the movie singles, just don't keep bringing mate,
Speaker 2: Just let it go. You know he'll call you. If
Speaker 2: he's going to call you, he'll call you back anyway.
Speaker 2: So Donald Trump is having a meeting with these National
Speaker 2: security team right now in the situation room. I've got
Speaker 2: all the tellies on, so I'll keep an eye out
Speaker 2: on that. I'll let you know if anything happens. Residents
Speaker 2: in Tayrm recording gridlock trying to flee the city. Is
Speaker 2: the global anxiety centered on whether the US would broker
Speaker 2: and enter the conflict or enter the fray by helping
Speaker 2: Israel destroy Iran's deeply buried nuclear enrichment facility in fourd Oh,
Speaker 2: which only the US bunker buster bombs can reach. So
Speaker 2: they sent the uss nimits out in that direction. Look,
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on, but we'll keep you updated.
Speaker 2: We'll have a chat with Michael Paki because he's our
Speaker 2: federal politics opera editor from Channel nine. He's in Canada
Speaker 2: following the Prime Minister's Canadian trip. So we'll have a
Speaker 2: chat to Michael next hour and I'll say to him, Look,
Speaker 2: what do you think is going on? Do you think
Speaker 2: that Yeah, there's something more than meat. Si, there's a
Speaker 2: very an iconic fire, I guess you will put you
Speaker 2: could say of Donald Trump leaving Calgary to return home
Speaker 2: earlier than planned. He's getting on Air Force one. He's
Speaker 2: a very deep blue sky in the background, so it's
Speaker 2: getting to dusk. The plane is looking quite blue. He's
Speaker 2: sort of highlighted by the cameras and also by the
Speaker 2: light inside the plane. And I'm gonna be honest with
Speaker 2: it's quite a haunting photo. If you know it signifies anything,
Speaker 2: it's certainly that you know it's the photo that we
Speaker 2: will go Oh, okay, Iran and Israel have wrapped up
Speaker 2: the missile attacks and everyone's just waiting to see what's
Speaker 2: going to happen now. So we will keep you updated
Speaker 2: on that throughout the morning. I few whattech's coming through.
Speaker 2: Keep your suggestions for beeping Tom. I'd like to know
Speaker 2: who we're going to get this week, but at this
Speaker 2: stage Steve Bisley will be the person that we're going
Speaker 2: to catch up with. Hello, Gary, how are you, buddy?
Speaker 12: Yes, good morning. I'm just gonna reply Paul Michelle. Look,
Speaker 12: I'm a rugby league rugby and applyad uh what you
Speaker 12: might call. I played for the Navy, I played for
Speaker 12: the Combined Services. I've made all around the world, and
Speaker 12: I knew the late Tommy Rodonicus. He was he was
Speaker 12: an ex Air Force apprentice.
Speaker 3: You know that, did ye?
Speaker 2: I didn't know that, but I do know Tommy. I
Speaker 2: mean I know what Tommy.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 12: They used to call the Western suburbs the five Rows
Speaker 12: and mainly Seagles, the Silver Titles, et cetera. Mm hmm,
Speaker 12: I think John Singleton, you put a lot of money
Speaker 12: into a new town and uh.
Speaker 2: So, where did Michelle go wrong?
Speaker 12: Then, Gary, Well, she's only repeating what I said. I
Speaker 12: just said. Yeah, I said, what's his name is?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 12: If you remember correctly, I said bloke who was Uh
Speaker 12: he's a former school teacher and he played. He's in
Speaker 12: norgural football at Penriff.
Speaker 2: Right, did you did you want to did you want
Speaker 2: to tell? Michelle?
Speaker 12: Look, I don't get involved in people who've low intellect,
Speaker 12: Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Look, hang on a second, Michelle, Michelle.
Speaker 9: Hello, what makes me low intellect? Because I know a
Speaker 9: little bit about Manly. Unbelievable you are. Yesterday he said
Speaker 9: that I was incorrect. He didn't play at Manly. All
Speaker 9: I said was he was.
Speaker 12: A manly way way where I said exactly, he started
Speaker 12: these football at Penriff right. He's a former school teacher.
Speaker 3: Do you know that?
Speaker 9: Yes, that's Sampius and ben fordhen was his students.
Speaker 12: Actually yeah, And I said in the past or I
Speaker 12: knew Bobby Fulton too. He was on the h is
Speaker 12: a conscript come on with Sydney is the corporal and
Speaker 12: him and a MAJORLD with the Asian for the change
Speaker 12: were taken up and bring him back from Vietnam, et cetera.
Speaker 9: Okay, I've never questioned that all I made. All I
Speaker 9: said was I'm happy that Manly lost because jess Hazard
Speaker 9: was a good Manly man and I'm happy for the Tysons.
Speaker 9: What was wrong with that statement?
Speaker 12: Well, Jess Hasler. How many clubs has he coached?
Speaker 3: Do you know that?
Speaker 8: I don't care.
Speaker 9: Yeah, he went to the Bulldogs, so he won a
Speaker 9: premierships for them too. Anyway, I don't want to argue
Speaker 9: with you. I just don't.
Speaker 2: Know that's right. There's no arguments here.
Speaker 9: Is I don't want him to This is purely.
Speaker 2: A new segment I've come up with called footy Chat.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a work in progress. Bear with me, folks.
Speaker 2: I mean down the track will have a more florally name,
Speaker 2: but at the moment it's footy Chat.
Speaker 13: Yeah, no worries and Gary wants to be right all along.
Speaker 13: I've never questioned Gary's you sent to know so much
Speaker 13: about But I just make that comment and you always
Speaker 13: make me feel like I haven't said the right thing,
Speaker 13: and I was you can't say correct and you're having
Speaker 13: a guard me because I'm a manly fan.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And actually a lot of people that live on the
Speaker 9: Northern Beaches aren't silver Tails anymore.
Speaker 12: Are Paramotta because they came into the competition the year
Speaker 12: Osborne nineteen.
Speaker 3: Forty seven.
Speaker 2: Let him finish, and.
Speaker 12: They wore the same colors as school I went to
Speaker 12: and see I was a rail estate blue and gold right.
Speaker 12: Paramatta was originally called the Free Pickers, et cetera. Now
Speaker 12: tell me if I'm wrong here, but didn't North Sydney
Speaker 12: and the Manly Sea Eagles Sydney they operate for two
Speaker 12: years as the Northern Eagles, Michelle telling you you's wrong.
Speaker 9: Yes, but that wasn't their fault. That was the fault
Speaker 9: of some gur in the NRL. It I'm just saying, yes,
Speaker 9: so what that's what happened. And guess what. I was
Speaker 9: born in nineteen seventy three and I've been following them
Speaker 9: since nineteen seventy three and that was the year that
Speaker 9: Manly won the premiership. Does that make me a non believer,
Speaker 9: a non fan because I wasn't there when they spend
Speaker 9: the club was established in nineteen forty seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Gary, I forgot who signed them on at
Speaker 2: the moment. Michelle's yeah, Gary.
Speaker 12: Do you know anything about Dennis Tudy, Michelle.
Speaker 9: Should? I? Is he's someone important? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think he's got you now, Michelle, I think you know. Okay.
Speaker 2: In the starsh of the Great Footy Chat, which will
Speaker 2: be a regular segment, I've decided this where Gary wins.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Michellee got you there. You should have had
Speaker 2: Google up.
Speaker 9: Is he the captain of some ship?
Speaker 2: No, it's too late now, Michelle, you know, come back
Speaker 2: next week with your Google facts name out of them.
Speaker 2: Great to talk to both of you. There you go,
Speaker 2: there's our first episode of Footy Chat. I love them both,
Speaker 2: although I do think that Michelle probably should have had
Speaker 2: Google up. Seven minutes to one, I'm pill Owneel, although
Speaker 2: you can call me Jerry Springer. According to some of
Speaker 2: the texts that came through with people arguing, well, it
Speaker 2: was a thing called footy Chat and it was spirited
Speaker 2: and I liked it. And Maureen said she just rang up.
Speaker 2: Say hello, hello, Maureen. Nice to hear from you. Let
Speaker 2: me get to the text and I'll tell you where
Speaker 2: we're going to for the our. Michael said, go Michelle.
Speaker 2: Gary might be the one with the low intellect. Michelle
Speaker 2: needs a bib. She dribbles. There's another one, Marian says,
Speaker 2: get rid of that, annoying Michelle. She's got a horrible laugh. However,
Speaker 2: Sue is on Michelle's side and said, Gary's just a
Speaker 2: name dropper. I got another one here to Gaza. Thank you.
Speaker 2: So much for your text. I really appreciate that. That's
Speaker 2: very kind of you. Here's one from Roger. If I
Speaker 2: was Albow, I'd be doing trade and military deals with China.
Speaker 2: If America doesn't want to be an ally, look elsewhere.
Speaker 2: Maybe it would make Trump big albow for a minute.
Speaker 2: Roger says Trump is a real chicken though he has
Speaker 2: all the power but too afraid to exercise it. He's
Speaker 2: a taker. We all know that that means Trump always
Speaker 2: chickens out. Thank you Roger for your text. However, this
Speaker 2: one from Mary advice to albow up the military spending
Speaker 2: and strengthen our alliance with the US. Swallow your pride.
Speaker 2: We do not want to become an economic convoy of China.
Speaker 2: More suggestions for and I'm about to make a decision
Speaker 2: for this week's Peeping Tom. What about Steady Eddie? He
Speaker 2: would be really good? No name on that. I remember
Speaker 2: Steady Eddie. He was great? Wasn't he groundbreaking when it
Speaker 2: came to comedians too, Phil says Tony, A few more
Speaker 2: suggestions for you. What about John Singleton on the show
Speaker 2: or Jerry Harvey, Ori Enderly and their son brilliant And
Speaker 2: also says next time you're making a potato. Well I didn't,
Speaker 2: my wife did, but put some herbs on it. Brilliant
Speaker 2: love that. Thank you. Don't forget Sarah Bora with some
Speaker 2: food later, Philers, anybody mentioned Hoagues who's been in the
Speaker 2: news of late. I also vaguely remember an ad featuring
Speaker 2: pro Heart. He had something about a cleaning lady not
Speaker 2: being happy after he created the artwork. I remember that.
Speaker 2: Didn't she have to come in with a mob? What
Speaker 2: you want me to get the cleaning lady from the ad?
Speaker 2: That could be good. Paul says, you must have between
Speaker 2: you and Dale some USA contacts. What about Erica Strada
Speaker 2: from Chips? But brilliant, that'll be good. Carl Barron, the
Speaker 2: stand up comedian, is what somebody else said here too.
Speaker 2: A lot of text iming through, and I appreciate those. Sorry,
Speaker 2: let's get to this. We are going to make a decision.
Speaker 2: We're not going to do the antique show this week,
Speaker 2: because what we were doing was it was getting to
Speaker 2: the stage where Rick and I were just going, Okay,
Speaker 2: you know that's a stamp. What color is it? Do
Speaker 2: you lick the back of it? And we thought, you know,
Speaker 2: it's I think that that segment is still good but
Speaker 2: needs arrest. It'll be back, it'll be monthly. That may change,
Speaker 2: and yes, I can appreciate your feedback, but be nice.
Speaker 2: Here's who we're going to look for this week. Steve Bisley, Okay, Dale,
Speaker 2: Steve Bisley is a good one. He's still with us.
Speaker 2: I just checked that he's got some great acting chops.
Speaker 2: He was Goose in Mad Max. Betty's got some fantastic
Speaker 2: Mad Max stories. George Kennedy going back to that film,
Speaker 2: how iconic that was. And I wonder if he had
Speaker 2: any idea of how important that was that that film
Speaker 2: was on the Australian cinem the landscape. So Steve Bisley, busily,
Speaker 2: I should say, we'll try and get him on Friday.
Speaker 2: Let's get to the news.
Speaker 1: On two, GB, four BC and network stations. This is
Speaker 1: our Australia Overnight with Phil O'Neill.
Speaker 2: Now, like, how are you so we've got to Wednesday morning.
Speaker 2: Just got to find the feels like temperatures as well. Okay,
Speaker 2: here we go in Brisbane. At the moment it's twelve degrees,
Speaker 2: but it feels a heck of a lot colder than that.
Speaker 2: Currently feels like minus one. Really that's a lot colder
Speaker 2: than one would expect. And what about in Sydney, let's
Speaker 2: sort of look and see him. What so in Sydney
Speaker 2: at the moment we have nine degrees, but the feels
Speaker 2: like temperature actually feel like four degrees. Keep your feels
Speaker 2: likes coming through as well. One three, one eight seven three.
Speaker 2: Roger said, just a quick message with Michelle. I've given up,
Speaker 2: given up trying to correct her mistakes. I use Napoleon saying,
Speaker 2: if never interrupt your enemy when he or she in
Speaker 2: this case is making a mistake. Yes, but Michelle is
Speaker 2: one of our team, one of our Overnight family as
Speaker 2: his Gary, so we should all stick together. Here's another
Speaker 2: one that came in from Sharon. I said, Phil, you
Speaker 2: actually have more footy chat on your show than the
Speaker 2: Continuous Call team. Another text that came in This is
Speaker 2: about Mad Max two. It's a peeping tom, but we
Speaker 2: have one for this week. How about Emil Minty who
Speaker 2: played the little Boy? Was he the one that had
Speaker 2: the boomerang that was really sharp boomerang? And I think
Speaker 2: from memory cut off what's his name, Ginjil's fingers. I
Speaker 2: could be wrong about that, but I think that may
Speaker 2: have been him, but nonetheless going to Mad Max, we're
Speaker 2: going to have Steve Bisley, which JJ said should be
Speaker 2: fantas Steve Bisley will be our Peeping Tom chat Friday
Speaker 2: morning if we can get hold of him, which I
Speaker 2: hope we can, and then we can talk about Mad
Speaker 2: Max and all of the all of the merchandise that
Speaker 2: went with that, and what an incredible film, What a
Speaker 2: great time for Australian cinema the mid seventies two and
Speaker 2: you had Stone there was another fantastic film. So we'll
Speaker 2: have a chat with him about that if we can
Speaker 2: get him on Friday morning. One three one eight seven
Speaker 2: three is the phone number. Text number zero four six
Speaker 2: zero eight seven three eight seven three. Email is overnights
Speaker 2: at two GB dot com. So let's just reiterate that
Speaker 2: what we normally have in this hour, but we're giving
Speaker 2: it a rest. I'm going to do it monthly is
Speaker 2: Rick Milne's show, The Antique Show. I know it's been
Speaker 2: running for a while. We did find that we were
Speaker 2: also getting to the stage where we were almost begging
Speaker 2: for calls for people to ring, so we thought we'd
Speaker 2: give it a month. That way people can get this
Speaker 2: stuff together and rather than us just having to stretch
Speaker 2: out between phone calls, because that's what it was becoming.
Speaker 2: And it's not through lack of interest. It's just that,
Speaker 2: you know, the whole point of that particular segment is
Speaker 2: people ringing up and giving us their collectibles and things
Speaker 2: like that so that Rick can appraise them. But if
Speaker 2: we didn't get any calls, then it was just basically
Speaker 2: him and I talking about things that you know, he'd found,
Speaker 2: and so we thought, well, you know, it wouldn't it
Speaker 2: be better to have this once a month so we
Speaker 2: can get to some really great stuff. However, if you
Speaker 2: want to give me some feedback about that, you can
Speaker 2: on the email overnight's at two GB dot com, on
Speaker 2: the text zero four six zero eight seven three eight
Speaker 2: seven three on the phone one three one eight seven
Speaker 2: three as well, because you know, maybe it's the wrong decision.
Speaker 2: Maybe we should have Rick one every week. I know
Speaker 2: that people don't like things when they change. I know
Speaker 2: people like consistency, and I totally get that. And you know,
Speaker 2: just in the in the attempt to make things, as
Speaker 2: you know, the best show that we possibly can for you,
Speaker 2: that's what we were thinking. But you know, give me
Speaker 2: some of the feedback if you want more than how
Speaker 2: to hear from you. So, Anthony Albanezi, he was given
Speaker 2: his big opportunity to go and meet with the American
Speaker 2: President Donald Trump. But Donald Trump is headed back from
Speaker 2: the G seven summit in Calgary. This was the response
Speaker 2: on that decision from both Richard Miles and Suzanne Lee.
Speaker 1: This is essentially the American president needing to deal with
Speaker 1: what is obviously playing out in the world today.
Speaker 10: We shouldn't be reading more into it than that.
Speaker 14: It should not be left for Australia to just seek
Speaker 14: meetings as important as this on the sidelines of an
Speaker 14: international summit.
Speaker 2: Although he didn't really have much choice, I think in
Speaker 2: his defense. The update from America, as I mentioned before,
Speaker 2: Donald Trump has headed back to the situation room at
Speaker 2: the White House. What's going on there is anybody's guest.
Speaker 2: I guess he says that he's seeking a real end
Speaker 2: to this, although Donald Trump has also said he has
Speaker 2: not reached out to Iran for peace talks. Pete haig
Speaker 2: Seth has said that the Americans are going to defend
Speaker 2: their assets. I presume he means by that their assets
Speaker 2: in the region, and also Donald Trump has said don't
Speaker 2: touch our troops, So what's going on there, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I also saw that a moment ago. They also flashed
Speaker 2: up in one of the news channels. They were talking
Speaker 2: about the bunker buster, which I think might be something
Speaker 2: else that you know, may reoccur that particular narrative. But
Speaker 2: you know, I'm just keeping an eye on the TV's
Speaker 2: got the CNN on, got the Fox News, got the
Speaker 2: Sky News, and I'll let you know things as they
Speaker 2: happen throughout the morning, and maybe nothing will you know,
Speaker 2: touch Wood. I'm not sure that's actually would to be honest. Now.
Speaker 2: Michael Paki is Channel Mind's Federal politics editor. He has
Speaker 2: been on the trip on the tour with the Prime
Speaker 2: Minister in Canada. We're going to talk to him in
Speaker 2: just a moment, and then a little bit later on
Speaker 2: the Good Professor joins us. He's written another brilliant column,
Speaker 2: as he always does with the Spectator. He's got this
Speaker 2: week's political news. So we'll talk to him about the
Speaker 2: situation that we find ourselves in and in another completely
Speaker 2: different direction. I don't know how you feel about body language,
Speaker 2: but Yourna Jordana Borenstein is the communications and body language expert,
Speaker 2: and she wants to talk about chronic overflapping. And that
Speaker 2: is what you give away to somebody else when you
Speaker 2: start waving your arms around, and when you talk and
Speaker 2: you wave your arms around, you can give away some
Speaker 2: vital clues in terms of body language about yourself, whether
Speaker 2: or not you're being sincere or insincere. What to look
Speaker 2: out for with that. We'll have a chat with her.
Speaker 2: I always find that body language stuff really good, and
Speaker 2: also too, by the way, if you have a question
Speaker 2: for doctor Carl Kruziniski for tomorrow, text it through to me.
Speaker 2: We've had some really good ones zero four six zero
Speaker 2: eight seven three eight seven three. I had one that
Speaker 2: came yesterday that was somebody who said, well, if you're
Speaker 2: an atheist and you swear on the Bible, does that
Speaker 2: mean that you can lie if you're an atheist. Well,
Speaker 2: we'll find out what doctor Carl thinks about that when
Speaker 2: we talk to him tomorrow morning. And there was also
Speaker 2: a lot of people wanted to talk about alien hand syndrome,
Speaker 2: so we'll get him on that too and have a
Speaker 2: bit of a chat with him and find out what
Speaker 2: he thinks about that. Also coming up a little bit later,
Speaker 2: on day Surgery, the Hospitals for Hearts for heart surgery.
Speaker 2: Jane Griffith is the CEO of Day Hospitals Australia and
Speaker 2: we'll talk about whether or not heart surgery day hospitals
Speaker 2: are the way of the future. Sarah Bora is going
Speaker 2: to do some cooking for us. Garth Davis and we'll
Speaker 2: talk about this later too and get your calls on it.
Speaker 2: Garth Davis is a real estate and property expert and
Speaker 2: they're looking at getting overseas tradees. Are they the answer
Speaker 2: to the housing crisis? And what they're doing is they're
Speaker 2: getting trades I think mostly in primarily from New Zealand
Speaker 2: and giving them ten grand to come and be a
Speaker 2: trade in Australia. And so I want to know how you,
Speaker 2: as a fellow trade think about this initiative. It's only
Speaker 2: happening in WA, but if they roll it out nationally,
Speaker 2: what do you think about that idea? You can even
Speaker 2: get in now if you're having an opinion about that. So,
Speaker 2: and if you were an employer, would you hire an
Speaker 2: overseas trade Peter Coury, can I tell you all about
Speaker 2: these letters that are appearing in people's letterboxes which aren't
Speaker 2: a fine. They look like a parking fine, but they're
Speaker 2: just a slap on the wrist. What's the point of that.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that, and also a little bit later
Speaker 2: Dr Benzala, Senior Lecturer in International Relations at Monash School
Speaker 2: of Social Science, we're going to talk about the escalating
Speaker 2: Israel Iran conflict, where I'm also led to believe that
Speaker 2: the sirens are now willing in Tel Aviv. Will keep
Speaker 2: you updated on that. Scott, you've been on hold for
Speaker 2: absolutely ages, mate, How are you not bad? Good buddy?
Speaker 2: What's going on? What can I do for you?
Speaker 6: Did you do the comparison between the Lulu's to Fill
Speaker 6: with Love and the Vinyls the the Vinyls to Deal
Speaker 6: with Love?
Speaker 2: I didn't know what the good song comparison. I didn't
Speaker 2: know what. So the Vinyls did a version of To
Speaker 2: Sir with Love as well?
Speaker 6: Yeah, they did a cover version.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. When did that happen?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 6: Just a mate?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 2: Okay? And so and the Lulu.
Speaker 6: Version she actually nailed it, she really nailed it. It
Speaker 6: was beautiful.
Speaker 2: Okay. And do you know who else does a really
Speaker 2: good version of To Sir with Love? Michael Stipe from
Speaker 2: Ram it's really interesting. You have a listen to that too. Well,
Speaker 2: I'll go and have a listen to that, Scott. I
Speaker 2: appreciate you hanging on for as long as you did.
Speaker 2: And we'll see. I'd like to be really interested to
Speaker 2: see what the vinyl's version of to Sir with Love is.
Speaker 2: Like I get Chris on the Wheels of Steel in
Speaker 2: the studio next door to tell us what what it
Speaker 2: sounds like. Matthew says, that's crap. I won't be listening
Speaker 2: till Rick's back on. He's got great stories and I
Speaker 2: look forward to his segment. And I've been listening to
Speaker 2: Nights for decades since Wheelshair, says Matthew. So he's not
Speaker 2: happy that we're going to have but it's been a
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty. A lot of other people have sent
Speaker 2: in texts going, well, you know, I can see where
Speaker 2: you went with Rick Mill. Maybe we'll make it fortnightly Matthew. Okay,
Speaker 2: Michelle is a woman. And if ever a woman says
Speaker 2: correct me and I'm wrong, don't fall for it, it
Speaker 2: says Wayne and castle Hill, and yeah, be careful what
Speaker 2: you say there, Wayne, You'll end up eating potatoes for dinner,
Speaker 2: and also a question for doctor carl This is really good.
Speaker 2: So where do flies go when it rains? It's a brilliant,
Speaker 2: brilliant suggest and brilliant question. Maybe we'll give that to
Speaker 2: him tomorrow too. If you have a question for doctor Carle,
Speaker 2: text it through to us zero four six zero eight
Speaker 2: seven three eight seven three come up to eighteen minutes
Speaker 2: past one. Believe we'll be going to Michael Packy in
Speaker 2: just a moment, the Channel nine Federal politics editor who's
Speaker 2: been on the Prime Minister's Canadian trip, and we'll find
Speaker 2: out how the premise is feeling and what the update
Speaker 2: is from the G seven next twenty pass one. Here's
Speaker 2: an interesting text that came in from Rowan. Hello Rowan,
Speaker 2: how are you they feel? A Nathan Kosh is an
Speaker 2: airline pilot with Quantus who also does and he's a
Speaker 2: veterinarian too, and he does a great show on Simon
Speaker 2: Owen on three AW and could also be a good
Speaker 2: replacement for the weeks when Rick Mills on. Okay, I'll
Speaker 2: check that out with Dale. I don't know if Dale's
Speaker 2: heard of Nathan Kosh. No, we don't. We don't know,
Speaker 2: and I don't know if it's Cosh or Cock, but
Speaker 2: anyway would probably go with Kosh just to be politically correct.
Speaker 2: But okay, I'll tell you what, Ron, Let's look into that.
Speaker 2: Dale's giving me the thumbs up, So we're going to
Speaker 2: look into that two. And you know that might also
Speaker 2: be alternative number one for the weeks when Rick Miln's
Speaker 2: not on. It's nice to try and fresh up your
Speaker 2: overnight shows too, as much as we possibly can. Donald
Speaker 2: Trump has angrily but vaguely addressed his departure from the
Speaker 2: g seventh summit, where he left Anthony Albanezi and other
Speaker 2: world leaders high and dry. I think Albow would perhaps
Speaker 2: be the one who was most disappointed by that, because
Speaker 2: he was ready to have the meeting. So let's go
Speaker 2: to Michael Packy, who's in Calgary in Canada. Morning to you, mate,
Speaker 2: thanks for your time. So Albo, it looked like he
Speaker 2: was going to get the meeting. Now it's not happening.
Speaker 2: How has his mood been.
Speaker 11: Look, he's just arrived here at the summit center and
Speaker 11: we're expecting to speak to him probably in the next
Speaker 11: couple of hours. He's got a few meetings with other
Speaker 11: world leaders. But the way that his office is spinning.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 11: They're basically saying, well, they understand that Donald Trump had
Speaker 11: to leave the summit early because he's dealing with the
Speaker 11: escalating crisis in the Middle East. But I'd say that privately,
Speaker 11: they're probably not too happy because they were expecting this
Speaker 11: meeting to happen sometime today and there were a number
Speaker 11: of issues that did need to be discussed, and it
Speaker 11: would also be the first time that Anthony Abernezi and
Speaker 11: Donald Trump would have met face to face. But the
Speaker 11: thing is, phil is the way that it all happened,
Speaker 11: I think is quite interesting. So essentially, Anthony Albanezy held
Speaker 11: a news conference late yesterday after a series of meetings
Speaker 11: with a couple of world leaders that he had to
Speaker 11: talk about those meetings and also to be asked about
Speaker 11: what he planned to talk to Donald Trump about, how
Speaker 11: he planned to address issues like a trade and obviously
Speaker 11: the Orcust defense packed, and he went into more or
Speaker 11: less what he's thinking was in how he would handle
Speaker 11: Donald Trump in some of these negotiations. But literally, as
Speaker 11: soon as that press conference finished and Anthony Albernezi walked
Speaker 11: out the door, a statement popped up from the Americans
Speaker 11: saying that Donald Trump was going to be leaving early
Speaker 11: and has canceled all of his meetings that he had
Speaker 11: planned for the next twenty four hours or so. So
Speaker 11: essentially the Australians and the Prime Minister were not given
Speaker 11: a heads up that Donald Trump was planning to leave
Speaker 11: the summit and that the meeting wouldn't go ahead.
Speaker 2: So he was going to have a sideline meeting with
Speaker 2: Trump and they now locked it in. It seemed like
Speaker 2: this was really an opportunity that Alba was really hoping for,
Speaker 2: and we were asking what people should think that Alba
Speaker 2: should do next, and I guess that would be definitely
Speaker 2: something that you know, he would have to try and
Speaker 2: figure out. Now whether or not, you know, you continue
Speaker 2: to try and hound Donald Trump to get this meeting,
Speaker 2: or whether it's just best to sit back and just
Speaker 2: try and wait and see what happens and to see
Speaker 2: whether they're approached.
Speaker 11: Well, look, I think he needs to try and get
Speaker 11: a meeting because I think there's some very clear issues
Speaker 11: that need to be discussed between Australia and the United States.
Speaker 11: What I can tell you is that Anthony Abernezi does
Speaker 11: believe he may and obviously they're touching their language pretty
Speaker 11: carefully that he may have an opportunity to meet with
Speaker 11: Donald Trump in September, because Anthony Oberezi will be going
Speaker 11: to the United States to attend the United Nations Security
Speaker 11: Council and he's attending that meeting New York and believes
Speaker 11: that after he finishes attending the meeting that un meeting,
Speaker 11: he'll be able to travel to Washington and potentially have
Speaker 11: this one on one with Donald Trump. So that's what
Speaker 11: I think that Anthony Albanezi is hoping for. And the
Speaker 11: interesting thing is yesterday when they were talking, we were
Speaker 11: asking him about what sort of preparation have you done
Speaker 11: for this meeting. One of the things that he told
Speaker 11: us and I thought it was quite interesting. He says
Speaker 11: that he had spoken to Greg Norman, the Australian golfing grade,
Speaker 11: about how, you know, how he should handle Donald Trump.
Speaker 11: Because Greg Norman and Donald Trump are mates. So it's
Speaker 11: interesting the people that they're speaking to to try and
Speaker 11: get this access to Donald Trump. But despite the fact
Speaker 11: that they're speaking to people like Greg Norman, you know,
Speaker 11: people like Scott Morrison, Joe Hockey, who are also really
Speaker 11: relatively close to the president. You know, they're speaking to
Speaker 11: all these people, but they don't need that. They don't
Speaker 11: seem to be able to land meeting despite what they
Speaker 11: do have.
Speaker 2: They made it aware that what was on the agenda
Speaker 2: when they were going to have the chat with Trump.
Speaker 2: Did they make people aware of what it was hoping
Speaker 2: to discuss.
Speaker 11: Yeah, Look, I think that Donald Trump knew what more
Speaker 11: or less Anthony Alberesi was going to be discussing. And
Speaker 11: Anthony Alberzi also made it pretty clear that he didn't
Speaker 11: want to have a conversation with Donald Trump which dealt
Speaker 11: with a whole range of issues. Anthony Alberzi says, it's
Speaker 11: best that when you go into these sorts of conversations
Speaker 11: with world leaders, you have a clear idea about what
Speaker 11: you're going to talk about. So so Donald Trump knew
Speaker 11: that the two issues that Anthony Albernesi would be discussing
Speaker 11: with the President was going to be trade and getting
Speaker 11: rid of these tariffs on Australian products. And of course
Speaker 11: other countries have also been hit with the tariffs by
Speaker 11: the US. But you know, you've got Australian steel and
Speaker 11: you've got Australian aluminium that's exported to the US, which
Speaker 11: is facing tariffs of fifty percent, so I mean the
Speaker 11: government is trying to either reduce those tariffs or take
Speaker 11: them off altogether. So that was the first major point
Speaker 11: of conversation that was going to be discussed with the President.
Speaker 11: The other thing is this August Defense Pact, because like,
Speaker 11: there is some suggestion now that potentially the Americans aren't
Speaker 11: as interested in forming this alliance between Australia, the US,
Speaker 11: and the U K to build nuclear powered submarines and
Speaker 11: increase defense capability more generally in our region. It seems
Speaker 11: that the Americans just don't seem the interest in the
Speaker 11: Defense Pack seems to be wavering. So essentially Anthony Albernezi
Speaker 11: was trying to seek reassurances from the President that America
Speaker 11: is still committed to the Aucust Pack. On the surface,
Speaker 11: it appears that they are, but I think that there
Speaker 11: is some concern and that potentially they are starting to
Speaker 11: waiver given the billions of dollars that are at stake
Speaker 11: with this deal.
Speaker 2: And Anthony Albanesi not the only one who has left
Speaker 2: in the lurch. There were other planned conferences with other
Speaker 2: world leaders. Who else missed out?
Speaker 11: Yeah, well, the Ukrainian President vladimit Zelenski. He's spoken now
Speaker 11: to Donald Trump on a number of occasions, so the
Speaker 11: fact that he missed out is probably not as big
Speaker 11: a deal. The Indian Prime Minister Norendramodi he's missed out
Speaker 11: as well. I think he was also meant to be
Speaker 11: speaking to the Koreans. There was a meeting with them
Speaker 11: that had been scheduled, which has now been canceled. So
Speaker 11: there were a few other world leaders that Donald Trump
Speaker 11: was meant to be speaking to, But clearly for us,
Speaker 11: the meeting between Albanesi and Trump was going to be
Speaker 11: key because it is the first time that these two
Speaker 11: men would have met face to face. Albanesi is only
Speaker 11: spoken to Donald Trump by phone on three occasions, but
Speaker 11: they've never met face to face. So given the scale
Speaker 11: of some of the issues that are at hand that
Speaker 11: do need to be discussed, you probably do need to
Speaker 11: have a leader to lead a meeting where they're sitting
Speaker 11: down and thrashing these ideas out, you know, face to face,
Speaker 11: rather than over the phone. So I think that Anthony
Speaker 11: Albinezi will be sweating on a meeting happening in September.
Speaker 2: Two things One, Emmanuel Macron, the President of France, was
Speaker 2: the one who said that Donald Trump has left the
Speaker 2: G seven summit to go back to Washington. Why was
Speaker 2: it up to Macron to make this statement or did
Speaker 2: you step up?
Speaker 11: Well, look, I think on that case you probably just
Speaker 11: stepped up to actually have to explain it. I know
Speaker 11: that as Trump was leaving, you know, there was general
Speaker 11: remarks that he's saying that I've got you know, there's
Speaker 11: there's too much going on in the United States, and
Speaker 11: with obviously the escalating conflict between Israel and Iran that
Speaker 11: needs to be dealt with. My understanding is that once
Speaker 11: Trump did get back to the US, he convened a
Speaker 11: meeting of the National Security Committee, which is a high
Speaker 11: powered grouping of defense and other officials, to discuss, you know,
Speaker 11: what is going on in Iran giving these constant missile strikes.
Speaker 3: But look, to a.
Speaker 11: Certain extent, I suppose you can't also discount that a
Speaker 11: lot of it is better by the US and by
Speaker 11: the President. We've got to keep in mind, Phil that
Speaker 11: a few weeks ago, when Donald Trump was being asked
Speaker 11: to whether or not he would even attend the G seven,
Speaker 11: he was wavering and saying, oh, look, I'm not sure
Speaker 11: if I really want to go to the G seven
Speaker 11: basically because he thought that he was going to be
Speaker 11: ambushed on certain issues by the other world leaders. But
Speaker 11: then in the end he decided to come here. So
Speaker 11: he made a grand entrance on Sunday night and states
Speaker 11: for most of yesterday, and then obviously decides to make
Speaker 11: the grand exit yesterday. So I don't know if a
Speaker 11: lot of it is also a bit of show in
Speaker 11: making these entrances and exit Saturday summits. He's obviously not
Speaker 11: a fan of them because he doesn't want to sign
Speaker 11: on to what they call the communicates. This is what
Speaker 11: they've all agreed to after the talks. There's certain things
Speaker 11: that he doesn't agree with, and he obviously doesn't want
Speaker 11: to be signing on to documents that he doesn't really
Speaker 11: agree with in terms of issues like have how to
Speaker 11: handle the situation with Israel and Iran, the situation in Ukraine.
Speaker 11: He may not necessarily agree with other world leaders, and
Speaker 11: he doesn't want to sign on to any document which
Speaker 11: says that he does right now.
Speaker 2: And Trump also went on to say that he's not
Speaker 2: going back for a ceasefire. It's bigger than that, So
Speaker 2: stay tuned, which is at odds with what his White
Speaker 2: House Press secretary and Caroline leave It had to say
Speaker 2: as well, I guess we'll just have to wait and
Speaker 2: see in the next few few hours. Nice to talk
Speaker 2: to you, Michael, Thank you so much. No problem's going you, Phiel,
Speaker 2: thank you, Michael Packy there Ken Calgary in Canada. And
Speaker 2: of course he is the Channel nine correspondent International news correspondent,
Speaker 2: just letting us know what's going on there with Albow
Speaker 2: and poor Albow not having the opportunity to catch up
Speaker 2: with Donald Trump. And as I mentioned before on the
Speaker 2: phone one three one eight seven three, what do you
Speaker 2: think that Albow should do next? Do you think that
Speaker 2: he should keep pursuing it? I mean it's in his
Speaker 2: best interest to try and keep pursuing it, isn't it.
Speaker 2: And in Australia's interest, and obviously to keep pursuing the
Speaker 2: issue with orcas, to keep pursuing the interest that the
Speaker 2: story of the submarines, whether we're going to get our
Speaker 2: submarines or we're going to get our money back. So
Speaker 2: there's a lot that Albo has to discuss on behalf
Speaker 2: of Australia. But do you just keep continuing to try
Speaker 2: and get that conversation and try and get that meeting. Well,
Speaker 2: he's not the only one, as we mentioned, you know,
Speaker 2: the Indian Prime Minister also didn't get his meeting. Vladimir
Speaker 2: Zelenski from the Ukraine didn't get his meeting either, the
Speaker 2: other people that missed out. But if you were able
Speaker 2: to advise Anthony Albanezi, what advice would you give him
Speaker 2: one three, one eight seven three on the phone or
Speaker 2: on the text zero four six zero eight seven three
Speaker 2: eight seven three. And also, you know, is there anybody
Speaker 2: else maybe apart from Greg Norman, that you think that
Speaker 2: Albow can get to try and be his messenger? I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, Greg Norman is a great cat because they
Speaker 2: you know, he and Trump can talk about golf, so
Speaker 2: they've got common ground there. But you've got Joe Hockey
Speaker 2: as well. I mean, you know, nobody's going to say
Speaker 2: Kevin right, but you've got Joe Hockey there. You've got
Speaker 2: you know, It'scott Morrison there. Who's in the mix? Who
Speaker 2: else do you think would be good to be in
Speaker 2: the mix on this? What's the next bit of advice
Speaker 2: you would give Anthony Albanezi going forward? One three, one
Speaker 2: eight seven three or on the text zero four six
Speaker 2: zero eight seven three eight seven three twenty three minutes
Speaker 2: to two. So I was asking who we could get
Speaker 2: Albo to, you know, try and help Albo out with
Speaker 2: his conversations with Donald Trump, and Keith said, what about
Speaker 2: Stormy Daniels on the text? Well, why not? That's creative.
Speaker 2: Why can't they build subs in South Australia. There's a
Speaker 2: text that came through. I think the best they can
Speaker 2: do is possibly build somewhere between three and five submarines
Speaker 2: somewhere by about the year twenty thirty. I just don't
Speaker 2: think that they have the construction ability to do that,
Speaker 2: but I could be wrong. By all means, if you
Speaker 2: know the answer to that, you can give me a
Speaker 2: definitive answer. Please give me a ring one three one
Speaker 2: eight seven three. Sue said, Albo and Wang haven't really
Speaker 2: helped Australia by not defending Israel. Tugs wants to talk
Speaker 2: about some ride share stuff too. Please, by all means,
Speaker 2: if you want to dispel some myths, Tugs, give us
Speaker 2: a call. Michael said, I went to a few private
Speaker 2: groups and something big is going to happen, something quite prominent.
Speaker 2: He said he found that out when he was on
Speaker 2: the groups online. Margaret says in Queensland, can you bring
Speaker 2: back Rick at least every fortnight? Well, you know again
Speaker 2: everything's open for discussion. It's your show, so by all means,
Speaker 2: you know, Elbow's coming back to Australia with his tail
Speaker 2: between his legs. Somebody else said on the text when
Speaker 2: is Anthony Albanezi coming to China? Was another text that
Speaker 2: came through, and a couple of other ideas that are
Speaker 2: coming through as well on one three one eight seven three,
Speaker 2: including Craig Redcliff. He said, you know the antiques bloke
Speaker 2: love mate, maybe keep it weakly, surely there's enough material
Speaker 2: to supply content. Well that in therein lies the rub
Speaker 2: was the issue that we had that we were struggling
Speaker 2: to get the callers towards the end, which is why
Speaker 2: we thought we would rest the segment and bring it
Speaker 2: back monthly. But we could do it fortnightly too. If
Speaker 2: you like Mornic John in the rumor, how are you mate?
Speaker 2: What have you got for us?
Speaker 3: They had just close your eyes.
Speaker 12: Fine, we've solved the problem.
Speaker 6: World News.
Speaker 5: Elbow in bite Donald to pay the best Manly sweatoned
Speaker 5: and matched him up with Payne long as a bride baite.
Speaker 2: Oh lovely. Okay, so a little bit of a sort
Speaker 2: of you know, because he likes a bit of reality TV.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they kill kill ten birds with one spot.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, you know it's a it's a it's an idea.
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you there, John from Naruma one
Speaker 2: three one eight seven three. If you would like to
Speaker 2: give us a text on the phone, yeah, one three
Speaker 2: one seven three on the phone on the text zero
Speaker 2: four six zero eight seven three eight seven three. We
Speaker 2: had a chat with our next guest, Jordana, the communications
Speaker 2: and body language expert, a couple of weeks ago, and
Speaker 2: a lot of people gave us some good feedback on that.
Speaker 2: Seems that everybody's really interested in the secrets that we
Speaker 2: give away when we have a look at somebody else's
Speaker 2: body language or our own body language and don't realize
Speaker 2: we're doing it. So this week let's talk about chronic
Speaker 2: over flapping, which Jordana, good morning to you, has a
Speaker 2: lot to do with people and the way they move
Speaker 2: their arms and they gesticulate, which I think I'm a
Speaker 2: little bit of a gesticulator too. It's like I'm playing
Speaker 2: sort of you know, an air organ or something like that.
Speaker 14: So you're in one of the two most popular categories.
Speaker 14: We tend to be overflaped or we tend to be underflappers.
Speaker 14: The problem with overflapping is that we have a lot
Speaker 14: of uninternal movement when we're speaking, which means a lot
Speaker 14: of the focus of our message.
Speaker 10: People are distracted by seeing that.
Speaker 14: Unintentional movement with our hands, Like I liken it to
Speaker 14: fill the words when we're talking. So if we're trying
Speaker 14: to rush through because we feel like all the eyes
Speaker 14: are on us, will say like, but I don't mean
Speaker 14: it's just because we really want to get our message across.
Speaker 14: But we feel pressures so fast and we're not thinking.
Speaker 14: And it's the same thing when we're using our hands
Speaker 14: and we're flucking them around.
Speaker 10: It's very distracting.
Speaker 2: I find I do this when I'm searching for words.
Speaker 2: When I know exactly where I'm going with my stream
Speaker 2: of consciousness, I don't do it as much.
Speaker 14: Oh well, that's so interesting because there was actually research
Speaker 14: by a professor of psychology at the University of Chicago.
Speaker 14: Her name is Susan golden Meadow, and she gesturing while
Speaker 14: we're speaking actually does light in the cognode, and when
Speaker 14: we're young, we actually naturally integrate gesture and speech, and
Speaker 14: our hands really do emphasize, sometimes contradict our spoken words,
Speaker 14: but they also do play a big role in forming
Speaker 14: our ideas. So I think you're flapping when you're trying
Speaker 14: to come up with your ideas and your words is
Speaker 14: actually part of physical body trying to come in to
Speaker 14: actually get you to the point where you want to go.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm flapping while extrapolating.
Speaker 14: Yeah, you are doing so many unusual things at once.
Speaker 14: You're flapping while you're trying to get to the message.
Speaker 14: And then I wonder, when you get to the message,
Speaker 14: do you stop flapping?
Speaker 2: Definitely, I put my hands away and leave them by
Speaker 2: my side. I wonder if it's possible to talk with
Speaker 2: holding your hands on the side, and I'm doing this
Speaker 2: while I'm saying this right now, whether or not it
Speaker 2: changes your thought process, and it hasn't seemed to do that.
Speaker 2: In fact, by taking out the flapping here, I find
Speaker 2: that I'm now more focused on the conversation.
Speaker 10: You are not focused on a conversation but as the person.
Speaker 14: And on the other side, your tonality has dropped and
Speaker 14: you've gone more monotone in the way that you actually
Speaker 14: shared that message. So our expression is very natural to us.
Speaker 14: We normally use our hands, so to take them away
Speaker 14: and not have could audibly hear the change in your
Speaker 14: pitch when you did that.
Speaker 10: And have you heard of Vanessa van Edwards No?
Speaker 2: I haven't.
Speaker 14: Oh so she's a specialist in science based people skills,
Speaker 14: and she analyzed more than one thousand hours of TEDx
Speaker 14: talks or ted talks, and she wanted to work out
Speaker 14: what go viral and others don't.
Speaker 10: And so her team.
Speaker 14: Studied all of these variables and the one differentiator they
Speaker 14: found was gestures. So they found that from this particular
Speaker 14: period of time, the most viewed TED talks had an
Speaker 14: average of four hundred and sixty five gestures in eighteen minutes,
Speaker 14: and the least viewed ones had an average of two
Speaker 14: hundred and seventy two gestures.
Speaker 10: So we really they help us bring our expression to
Speaker 10: life life.
Speaker 14: They help us find our words, and it also helps
Speaker 14: our message land in a much more impactful way because
Speaker 14: we trust gestures.
Speaker 2: Let me hit you with this scenario. What about if
Speaker 2: someone's really deceptive and they were using their hands as
Speaker 2: a smoke screen to deceive you from the words they're saying.
Speaker 14: They would be steps ahead because normally we would use
Speaker 14: our hands less if we're trying to be deceptive. So
Speaker 14: if you've got someone who understands and then would use
Speaker 14: their hands.
Speaker 10: I would say that it would be quite forced movement.
Speaker 14: You wouldn't have that natural flare and that natural expression
Speaker 14: when we're really coming from our heart and from a
Speaker 14: place of passion.
Speaker 2: When you see politicians usually making a speech, they do
Speaker 2: over emphasize with their hands, and I often feel that
Speaker 2: that is a little bit contrived.
Speaker 14: Yeah, they do quite intentional stuff. So like they'll do
Speaker 14: future framing. So future framing is where you get your
Speaker 14: hand in a certain movement and you move it forward
Speaker 14: when you say a certain policy or you say a
Speaker 14: certain idea, and so you're literally taking your audience on
Speaker 14: a journey with you, and your hand gesture is the vision.
Speaker 14: So it's like we're going to do this great thing,
Speaker 14: We're going to spend this amount of money. And future
Speaker 14: framing is a technique that is actually used a lot
Speaker 14: with politicians when they're taking you with them, you know,
Speaker 14: visually on the.
Speaker 10: Journey as well.
Speaker 14: Because we use our hands as anchors it's another way
Speaker 14: to capture our sensory elements. And the more of our
Speaker 14: you know, sensory elements we engage, the more engaged we are.
Speaker 2: How about if someone's being like a magician, your words
Speaker 2: are saying one thing, but your hands are actually taking
Speaker 2: your conversation away from the words.
Speaker 10: So a bit like magic one hundred percent or vice versa.
Speaker 14: In magic, we're either using our words and focusing on
Speaker 14: the story, the mind elements, the linguistics, we're distracting from
Speaker 14: what we're doing with our hands, or we're using our
Speaker 14: hands in a certain way that creates an illusion so
Speaker 14: that you're focusing on the hands and you can't see
Speaker 14: what's happening in other areas. But the code in magic
Speaker 14: is you can't tell anyone how a magic strick is
Speaker 14: done unless they want to be a magician themselves. So
Speaker 14: I think I've said enough unless you want to change
Speaker 14: your career.
Speaker 2: I want to just throw in a name here because
Speaker 2: I know you like it when I named I did
Speaker 2: an interview with David Copperfield and he stood in the
Speaker 2: corner dressed completely in black, and I found out afterwards
Speaker 2: it's because he's quite small in stature and he doesn't
Speaker 2: want people to realize how small he is in stature
Speaker 2: because he wants to come across with the illusion of
Speaker 2: being grand.
Speaker 12: Wow.
Speaker 10: Oh my gosh. I had no idea that he was small,
Speaker 10: because I've seen him in real life. He was definitely
Speaker 10: taller than me.
Speaker 2: Yes, he gives you that illusion, and that's why I
Speaker 2: did the interview with him in the dark in the corner.
Speaker 2: I found out afterwards.
Speaker 10: Were you wearing neon?
Speaker 12: No?
Speaker 2: Which I had? Which I had a torch?
Speaker 10: Did you find you? Did you have a flashlight? How
Speaker 10: did you guide your way through?
Speaker 2: They just pointed me to a couple of darty eyes
Speaker 2: in the corner.
Speaker 10: And then you're looking at your interview notes. Were you're
Speaker 10: using your.
Speaker 9: iPhone to it?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No, this was before iPhone.
Speaker 10: Oh okay, I'll tell on the illusion. That was such
Speaker 10: a good picture that I had in my.
Speaker 5: Mind as well.
Speaker 2: I can go with that if you want.
Speaker 10: With David Copperfield. Sounds like a really good opening for
Speaker 10: a show.
Speaker 2: I think, So to hang on there a second, Geordana,
Speaker 2: we're talking the body language, and I just got a
Speaker 2: text too that came in from Belinda saying, why do
Speaker 2: people say yes but then shake their head no. And
Speaker 2: that's really quite difficult to do too, to say yes.
Speaker 2: Have a go too to say yes but then shake
Speaker 2: their head no, yes, no, I've confused my head even
Speaker 2: by trying to do that one three one eight seven
Speaker 2: three or on the text zero four six zero eight
Speaker 2: seven three eight seven three. If you've got any body
Speaker 2: language questions, more with jor Dana after this, coming up
Speaker 2: to ten minutes to two, we'll catch up with a
Speaker 2: good professor, as we do every Wednesday morning about this time,
Speaker 2: just coming up after two Clerk. He's written another really
Speaker 2: interesting article in the Spectator, so we'll talk to him
Speaker 2: about that. We'll talk to him about Albow and where
Speaker 2: Alba goes from here after the meeting with the President
Speaker 2: of the USA that didn't happen in Calgary, and also
Speaker 2: other thoughts from the good Professor about what's going on
Speaker 2: at the moment in the Middle East, what he thinks
Speaker 2: the next step will be. So that's coming up. I
Speaker 2: got by the way I was talking to I can't
Speaker 2: remember who was Scotty I was talking to from Campbelltown,
Speaker 2: who said, did you know that there was a version
Speaker 2: of To Sir with Love by the the Vinyls, which
Speaker 2: was the Lulu song and I didn't, so we found
Speaker 2: it thanks to Chris in the studio. B on the
Speaker 2: Wheels of Steel. This is a bit of what it's
Speaker 2: out of me. They go the vinyls version of to
Speaker 2: Sir with Love. I like that, and don't forget tomorrow
Speaker 2: morning too. In the live lounge, who will we have
Speaker 2: for the Thursday and wanting live lounge? I believe tomorrow
Speaker 2: will be going international. Jeff on the text, I'm a
Speaker 2: martial artist. If I'm talking to someone that's throwing their
Speaker 2: arms around while talking, I see this is threatening behavior
Speaker 2: and I will grab their arm and stop it. So
Speaker 2: Geor Dana's on the phone, and she is a communications
Speaker 2: and body language expert. How do you what should you do?
Speaker 2: If you want people then if they're looking at the
Speaker 2: way you move your arms around, for example, but you're
Speaker 2: trying to be sincere and you want them to realize
Speaker 2: that you're being sincere and maybe even non threatening, what
Speaker 2: would you do.
Speaker 14: Open palms is trust, open palms is honesty. So we
Speaker 14: want to look at the opposite of what we would
Speaker 14: naturally do. So if you've been accused of something and
Speaker 14: genuinely it wasn't you what do you naturally do with
Speaker 14: your hands?
Speaker 10: You go, wasn't me? And what do you? What do
Speaker 10: you do with your hands?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you hold them up if you're under arrest, one
Speaker 2: hundred percent, well you put them forward. You put them
Speaker 2: forward as if to say, look, there's nothing here, there's
Speaker 2: nothing hidden.
Speaker 10: Exactly, and that goes back centuries.
Speaker 14: It's a primal cueue, you know, associated with sincerity and
Speaker 14: transperity and safety and connection.
Speaker 10: And we literally show we're not hiding anything.
Speaker 14: So when we don't use our hands or we hide
Speaker 14: them underneath the table, very unnatural. In fact, we tend
Speaker 14: to trust people less if we actually can't see their hands,
Speaker 14: because there's part of their body.
Speaker 10: That we don't know what's happening.
Speaker 14: And you know, back in the caveman eras, we would
Speaker 14: see if we would trust someone by what they were
Speaker 14: holding in their hands? Are you holding a weapon? Or
Speaker 14: are your palms open? And now can I trust you instantly?
Speaker 2: What about if someone is lying to you or someone's deceptive,
Speaker 2: if someone's not sussist, what do they do when they're
Speaker 2: trying to fool you?
Speaker 10: Good question?
Speaker 14: I would say anything anytime we can't see the hands
Speaker 14: or they're static, that would be a distraction from how
Speaker 14: would I normally carry myself.
Speaker 2: What about if somebody talks to and they keep their
Speaker 2: hands in their pockets, because I've always thought that's just
Speaker 2: somebody who's socially uncomfortable. Could there be another meaning to that?
Speaker 14: Sometimes it's literally just because it is such a comfortable
Speaker 14: position that they've done for years and years and years.
Speaker 14: But we always need to think, what is this dynamic
Speaker 14: that we're in, what is this interaction and what message
Speaker 14: am I trying to convey right now? Because we tend
Speaker 14: to see the world. In fact, we do see the
Speaker 14: world through our own lens. So what happens is I
Speaker 14: will judge your body language and how you carry yourself
Speaker 14: based on how I would do that gesture myself. So
Speaker 14: if I'm in a meeting with you and you're sitting
Speaker 14: with your hands and your fingers are interlocked at the table,
Speaker 14: you might be really calm, or you might be you know,
Speaker 14: considering something, or you might you know, be quite angry.
Speaker 14: I will look at you and go, how would I
Speaker 14: be feeling if I use my hands like that right now?
Speaker 14: And then I will project my own emotions and my
Speaker 14: own judgment of how I would use.
Speaker 10: That gesture onto you.
Speaker 14: So we need to be open and neutral at all
Speaker 14: times because otherwise there's a real risk of miscommunication and misunderstanding,
Speaker 14: even if it's not intentional. So coming back to the
Speaker 14: guys with the hands in the pockets, like, yeah, as
Speaker 14: I said, it might be a really calm and casual position,
Speaker 14: but if someone's looking at us, it's very quick.
Speaker 10: It's a very fast judgment to go, oh they're uncomfortable.
Speaker 10: Oh they're awkward.
Speaker 14: Oh they don't feel, you know, in their power in
Speaker 14: this moment. Remember in our last chat, I've got you to.
Speaker 10: Visualize glitter chess, Yes, Mariah Kerry, Yeah.
Speaker 14: So yeah, it's getting us into a confident pose.
Speaker 10: Anything that stops us from punching.
Speaker 14: Down and closing ourselves off instantly opens us up. Confidence
Speaker 14: equals power, not just for ourselves, but also in terms
Speaker 14: of the energy that we're actually giving off. Wow, I
Speaker 14: often get asked about hands behind our back.
Speaker 10: We want to avoid that as well.
Speaker 14: Why is that Because it's a more open posture than
Speaker 14: having them closed in front of us, But it is
Speaker 14: also a signal for a level of discomfort or I'm
Speaker 14: hiding something from you because your hands are hidden. So again,
Speaker 14: we can't see that, and there is a level of
Speaker 14: distrust when we can't see your hands.
Speaker 10: Even though it does obviously help your chest be open
Speaker 10: and neutral. And we don't want a point. We hate pointers.
Speaker 10: We don't want a point that comes across as a graston.
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I always say. Sometimes the hands can't
Speaker 2: see what the eyes are saying.
Speaker 10: I love your little I'm going to call them pearls
Speaker 10: of wisdom.
Speaker 2: I just make that up. I tell you, I just
Speaker 2: came to be like that, you know, And I wasn't
Speaker 2: even moving my hands to come to that pearler.
Speaker 10: You know, you've got such a convincing tone when you
Speaker 10: say that. Amazing gems.
Speaker 2: Don't forget that great philosopher that I have studied, George
Speaker 2: Costanza from Seinfeld when he said believe the lie.
Speaker 10: He's got it all.
Speaker 2: Give people a website, give people some things they should.
Speaker 10: Jordanab dot com at you, thank you so much. Absolutely
Speaker 10: love that.
Speaker 14: And on Instagram, I'm always sharing tips around body language
Speaker 14: and confidence and how to carry ourselves and share our voice.
Speaker 14: And it's Jordana Bornstein, which is really hard to spell,
Speaker 14: but if you make.
Speaker 2: It there, I'd love to see you I'm glad you
Speaker 2: said Jordana Mine. I still can't say your name, but
Speaker 2: thank you so much because I wasn't even going to
Speaker 2: attempt that communications and body language expert for all the
Speaker 2: chronic over flappers. Four minutes to two, got the news
Speaker 2: coming up at a moment, coming up to two o'clock.
Speaker 2: We'll get your news in just a moment. Here's a
Speaker 2: text from Paul. If my ears will go the way
Speaker 2: of Van goffs if I hear the the vinyls to
Speaker 2: sit with Love again, says Rick, I'd rather hear Rick
Speaker 2: Miln sing it. That's very funny.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Oh, let's get your news update. Professor Flint on the way.
Speaker 1: Onto GB four, BC and network stations. This is Australia
Speaker 1: Overnight with Phil O'Neil morning.
Speaker 2: I just missed that what they said the shortest day
Speaker 2: of the year was. So if I did tell you
Speaker 2: it was tomorrow, then that will be good. But I
Speaker 2: missed it. So if you picked up on that text
Speaker 2: me zero four six zero eight seven three eight seven
Speaker 2: three shortest day of the year means perhaps one of
Speaker 2: the shortest morning overnight shows of the year. Two that
Speaker 2: would also be a bit of a hand in hand
Speaker 2: as we sort of head towards the middle of the night,
Speaker 2: in the middle of winter one three one eight seven
Speaker 2: three on the phone on the emails overnights at two
Speaker 2: GB dot com. This one from Steve and hey, Phil,
Speaker 2: I believe Trump just does not like our minister in Washington.
Speaker 2: Of course that would be the world way Min's Kevin Rudd.
Speaker 2: Take him away and maybe Trump would be more friendly. Well,
Speaker 2: we're not quite sure what Donald Trump's actually up to.
Speaker 2: We spoke to Michael Packy a moment ago. He was
Speaker 2: following the Prime Minister round. It still is the G
Speaker 2: seven in Calgary. But Donald Trump has disappeared. He's had
Speaker 2: to head back to whatever the pressing problem is. I'm
Speaker 2: sure there's a lot of conjecture about that, and a
Speaker 2: lot of people think that they know what the issue
Speaker 2: might be. But he's meeting this is Donald Trump with
Speaker 2: his national security team in the situation room in Washington.
Speaker 2: So he had to hurry back in a hurry. And
Speaker 2: it was the French President Emmanuel Macraw who said that
Speaker 2: Donald Trump had to go because he had to deal
Speaker 2: with things like a ceasefire between Israel and Iran. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: Donald Trump wrote on his truth social wrong. He has
Speaker 2: no idea why I'm heading back to Washington, but it
Speaker 2: certainly has nothing to do with a ceasefire. It's much
Speaker 2: bigger than that, whether purposely or not. And Manuel or
Speaker 2: always gets it wrong. Stay tuned. And as I said before,
Speaker 2: the White House Press Secretary Carolyn Leavitt gave us a
Speaker 2: completely different view of what's going on. So we're not
Speaker 2: really sure what's going on in terms of you know, well,
Speaker 2: we know Albo is not meeting up with Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: but we don't know why Donald Trump has gone back
Speaker 2: in a hurry to Washington. He said that he's not
Speaker 2: seeking a real end or no a biggie parton he is.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump's seeking a real end, but he won't be
Speaker 2: reaching out to Iran to have a discussion about peace talks.
Speaker 2: And Pete hag Seth said that it's up to Americans
Speaker 2: to defend the US assets, so which I again, we
Speaker 2: presume him talking about the US assets in the Middle East.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. We'll keep an eye out on that.
Speaker 2: I got all the news channels up here. Nothing going
Speaker 2: on at the moment. Mart yunis never know, do you
Speaker 2: when news breaks, you'll hear it First, here's a text
Speaker 2: from Jeff ahead of us having a chat with the
Speaker 2: good Professor in just a Moment, Professor David Flint, one
Speaker 2: of our all time favorite people. Jeff said, though the
Speaker 2: only reason, and we were talking about body language before,
Speaker 2: he said, the only real place emphasising or emphasizing on
Speaker 2: gesticulating with one's arm could be considered acceptable in a
Speaker 2: film set or a theater stage as a lead in
Speaker 2: or interaction or perhaps queuing a fellow actor. What's funny
Speaker 2: you would say that, Jeff, because Dale and I were
Speaker 2: just talking about acting, because we're trying to get hold
Speaker 2: of Steve Bisley, who is this week's Peeping Tom, and
Speaker 2: we've managed to find the fact he's an acting coach.
Speaker 2: And I said to Dale, well, why don't you send
Speaker 2: in your head shot and you might get a bit
Speaker 2: more acting too. I don't know if you know if
Speaker 2: you've seen Dale's chops when it comes to acting, but
Speaker 2: he's right up there with some of the biggest movie
Speaker 2: stars in the world, including Superman Returns, Danny deck Chair, Wicked, Love,
Speaker 2: The Maria Corpse Story, All Saints as well. Did you
Speaker 2: actually have I don't think he had a starring role
Speaker 2: per se, unless, of course, you happen to freeze frame
Speaker 2: on that particular moment, but you know he was in it.
Speaker 2: So I said, well, why don't you go and perhaps
Speaker 2: this could be another thing, another string in your bow.
Speaker 2: You could perhaps get taught by Steve Bisley. We can
Speaker 2: get him to come on the show and do some
Speaker 2: stuff for Peeping Tom and this could be again you're
Speaker 2: calling Dale. You could be back on the Silver stage,
Speaker 2: or if you prefer, just walking the planks. And he said, no,
Speaker 2: he doesn't want to do that again. But he did
Speaker 2: a lot of extra work, and I did an extra
Speaker 2: work once. I did. My mate Nick Geanopolis did a
Speaker 2: film called The Wannabes and he said to me, mate,
Speaker 2: would you like to come on and, you know, be
Speaker 2: a security guard in Brashes while his child band. It
Speaker 2: was like the Wiggles signed some CDs in Brashes. You'll
Speaker 2: be in the background, You'll be a security guard. I said, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: no problem. A bit disappointed. I did it because I
Speaker 2: was supposed to go to lunch funnily enough with Bob
Speaker 2: Geldoff that day, and I knocked Bob Geldoff on the
Speaker 2: head in order to go and be an extra in
Speaker 2: a movie, and because Nick Ganopolis was my mate, and
Speaker 2: it was, you know, another chance to have new experiences.
Speaker 2: Not that Bob Geldoff conversation wouldn't have been, But what
Speaker 2: I did was one of the golden rules that you're
Speaker 2: not supposed to do. You're not supposed to talk to
Speaker 2: the actors if you're an extra, and I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: So I'm sort of just wandering around and you know,
Speaker 2: one of the actors was there, and I went up
Speaker 2: and said alo to him, and he was it mortified.
Speaker 2: He couldn't believe that this lower than anything person would
Speaker 2: actually dare to desecrate the air between him and you know,
Speaker 2: superiority by actually going up and speaking to him. And
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. And so later on I said
Speaker 2: to Nick Nick Giannoppos, I said, make that guy's not
Speaker 2: very friendly. He said, no, he's friendly, but you're just
Speaker 2: not on his level. And I went, well, what do
Speaker 2: you mean by that? He said, well, because he's an actor,
Speaker 2: he's a thespian, and you are merely an extra. And
Speaker 2: I wasn't privy to that world at all. I got
Speaker 2: more of an idea of it when I watched Ricky
Speaker 2: Gervai's extras, which was excellent, by the way, But I
Speaker 2: didn't realize there was this pecking order. I mean, it
Speaker 2: makes sense now when you think about it. You know,
Speaker 2: min jury was just a you know, it was an
Speaker 2: actor who think I've seen maybe once or twice. He
Speaker 2: wasn't Tom Cruise, for God's sake. But nonetheless, there is
Speaker 2: this golden rule when it comes to approaching actors, in particular,
Speaker 2: if you were an extra, and if you've ever been
Speaker 2: an extra in anything, let me know, give me a
Speaker 2: ring on one eight seven three, love to know your experience.
Speaker 2: But the thing about actors, they're very odd characters and
Speaker 2: you know who they're similar to comedians. Don't ever go
Speaker 2: to dinner with a bunch of comedians because what you
Speaker 2: think is going to be a fantastic time full of
Speaker 2: lives and what have you isn't because comedians keep the
Speaker 2: whole humor to themselves. If somebody says something that they
Speaker 2: consider to be funny, or somebody tells a joke, they're
Speaker 2: they're squirreling it away or mentally squirreling it away so
Speaker 2: they can use it later. So there was no banter whatsoever.
Speaker 2: And I went to dinner with the amazing Jonathan Do
Speaker 2: you remember him. He was the guy that was on Hey, Hey,
Speaker 2: It's Saturday, pretend to cut his arm off, all that
Speaker 2: sort of stuff. Very funny guy. I don't think he's
Speaker 2: with us anymore. And a made of mine Haskell Daniel,
Speaker 2: the comedian, and I thought, Gee, this is gonna be
Speaker 2: a great laugh. No it wasn't. It was as boring
Speaker 2: as because every time you think there was a setup
Speaker 2: for the joke in think Bang, someone's gonna come in
Speaker 2: and this is going to be brilliant. They were using
Speaker 2: that for material down the track. And I'll tell you,
Speaker 2: but I won't mention his name. I was at an
Speaker 2: awards ceremony after the show. I think it might have
Speaker 2: been People's Choice Awards, one of them, and there was
Speaker 2: this very famous Australian actor there and I don't want
Speaker 2: to mention his name because I don't want to. You know,
Speaker 2: Shitcam the guy. He can't defend himself, he's not around.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd like to, but I won't.
Speaker 3: But he.
Speaker 2: Comes across as one of the most affable and lovable
Speaker 2: Australian characters in a movie ever. If you saw him
Speaker 2: in a movie, you love him. You would love the
Speaker 2: character that he played in an iconic Australian film. He
Speaker 2: was one of the most lovable characters ever in an
Speaker 2: Australian film. So with that in mind, I said to
Speaker 2: my mate, look there he is over there. Let's go
Speaker 2: up and say hello to him and bring him up
Speaker 2: a bottle of wine. And he was talking at the
Speaker 2: time to Deborah Fulton, I think that was her name,
Speaker 2: Deborah Fulton. She was the newsreader on Channel ten. And
Speaker 2: I went up and I, Hellai, how are you? And
Speaker 2: I gave this guy, this really famous Australian actor who
Speaker 2: I thought was going to be the nicest guy in
Speaker 2: the world because of the character that he played in
Speaker 2: this film, that you would know this film. I could
Speaker 2: tell you you'd know straight away because you've seen it,
Speaker 2: but I'm not going to tell you the name of
Speaker 2: the actor. But so I went up there and I said, oh, mate,
Speaker 2: here you go, here's a bottle of wine from me
Speaker 2: in my mate, and the effing and blinding and what
Speaker 2: I had had coming back at us and we were
Speaker 2: just dumb struck. We couldn't believe it. My maid and
Speaker 2: I looked at him, I was like, what did he
Speaker 2: just say that, and Deborah turned around and said, no,
Speaker 2: he's always like that, And I couldn't believe it. I
Speaker 2: couldn't believe it. One of the nicest people you think
Speaker 2: you would ever meet, based on the character that he
Speaker 2: played in this movie is the complete antithesis of the
Speaker 2: kind of miserable person this person is. And you wouldn't
Speaker 2: believe it. You wouldn't have picked it. You would never
Speaker 2: pick it. Now if I said to you, ruin the
Speaker 2: movie for you, if I tell you who he is,
Speaker 2: you know it. You'll never be able to watch that
Speaker 2: film again the same way. So it just goes to show,
Speaker 2: you know, you can't judge a person by the character
Speaker 2: that they play in a movie. If you see someone
Speaker 2: who comes across as really a lovable, nice person, the
Speaker 2: possibility is that they're, yes, Paul on the texture right,
Speaker 2: they come across as a certain kind of person that
Speaker 2: they are not. They're really really well this one in
Speaker 2: particular anyway, Waite. So the point of that was that
Speaker 2: we're still trying to get a hold of Steve Bisley,
Speaker 2: Steve Bisily, if you can give us any tips, because
Speaker 2: he's our peeping Tom. At this stage, Dale's found his
Speaker 2: acting class that he does, but it's also requiring Dale
Speaker 2: to send a a headshot and his bio and a
Speaker 2: few excerpts from his reel as well. In order to
Speaker 2: get you don't know Dale, you could end up in
Speaker 2: Mad Max six playing one of the villains, playing the
Speaker 2: character that, to angry Anderson doesn't want to play. Hopefully
Speaker 2: we'll be able to get Steve Bisley the track seventeen
Speaker 2: minutes past two. Good to hear from you if you
Speaker 2: want to send me a text or an email, or
Speaker 2: you want to give me a ring, because it's nice
Speaker 2: to share the morning with you. Zero four six zero
Speaker 2: eight seven three eight seven three emails overnight at two
Speaker 2: GB dot com on the phone one three one eight
Speaker 2: seven three. Let's catch up with our good friend, the
Speaker 2: good Professor David Flint after this, coming up to twenty
Speaker 2: minutes past two. Good to have your company. I'm fill
Speaker 2: O'Neil and the email is Overnight's at two GB dot com.
Speaker 2: Here's an email from Will, Hello, Will, how are you?
Speaker 2: Trump has dropped hints he does not like Australia's current
Speaker 2: left wing fascist government, says Will on the email. The
Speaker 2: innocent groups, the innocent people now dying in our Suburbs
Speaker 2: is directly linked to the immigration policy now in place,
Speaker 2: and this government has a lot of blood on their hands.
Speaker 2: Make Australia fairdincom again, says Will. And I've got to
Speaker 2: tell you, I do like that. Make Australia fairedincom again.
Speaker 2: M AfD fadder. It's kind of like maga, isn't it
Speaker 2: m A f da because I'm terrible with acronymics, but anyway, yeah,
Speaker 2: I quite like that. Make Australia fair dinkom again. That's terrific.
Speaker 2: Note of what I came in from Franny on the email.
Speaker 2: Hello Frannie, how are you Phil? I enjoy the overnight show.
Speaker 2: I'd rather hear Rick every week. I find him entertaining,
Speaker 2: regardless of whether or not he receives or cause or not.
Speaker 2: This is of course Rick Mill that we're in the
Speaker 2: discussion right now about what we should do with this.
Speaker 2: And also I appreciate you know the other information that
Speaker 2: you gave me, Frannie, but I won't talk about it
Speaker 2: on the air. On the air it's nice though, nothing
Speaker 2: wrong with it. But the other regulars are great and
Speaker 2: really add to the show. Well, thank you, Frannie, and
Speaker 2: thank you for being civil on every email too, and
Speaker 2: we're talking about you know, Rick Milner, because as we said,
Speaker 2: you know, the whole point is to keep the show interesting.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't care. I mean, I will have
Speaker 2: on whatever you want, if you want your show. I'm
Speaker 2: merely here as a conduit to either keep you entertained
Speaker 2: or try to stop you from falling asleep, or to
Speaker 2: try it for make you fall asleep, whatever you fancy.
Speaker 2: But you know, as far as Rick Milns concerned, another
Speaker 2: text came through. This one's from Julie who said, instead
Speaker 2: of monthly for Rick Milns Antiques and Collectibles, could you
Speaker 2: wean us off slowly and make it fortnightly. We could
Speaker 2: do that, Julie, As I said again, but you know
Speaker 2: the point is that doing this overnight show is we
Speaker 2: just want to make it interesting for you. You know,
Speaker 2: we can bring in a lot of guests and all
Speaker 2: we can you know, talk a lot. We've even had
Speaker 2: that discussion too, because Mike Jeffries takes lots of calls,
Speaker 2: goes through the mornings with that, and we talked about
Speaker 2: that and said a couple of weeks ago on the text,
Speaker 2: would you rather we just took guests or rather just
Speaker 2: took calls all the way through the morning, or would
Speaker 2: you rather we mix it up with guests, And the
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Speaker 2: occurring on June twenty one. Where are we at now,
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Speaker 1: Now on overnights, Professor David Flint analyzes the important events
Speaker 1: of the week.
Speaker 2: Oh, finally, some sanity shall prevail. How are you good, professor?
Speaker 3: Well, there you Phil and how are you.
Speaker 2: I'm very well. I'd like to talk to you about
Speaker 2: a lot of things. We're pretty much on the same
Speaker 2: page with this article. Another great one you've written in
Speaker 2: the Spectator enriching Beijing flirting with Tehran. Let's talk about
Speaker 2: that certainly.
Speaker 3: Well. The government, the Australian government, which is that a
Speaker 3: hard lift leader. He comes from the hard left, was
Speaker 3: the American far left, and he is breaking away to
Speaker 3: some degree from American policy. And I'm not surprised that
Speaker 3: he is obviously not prepared. He doesn't want to go
Speaker 3: to the White House. He knows he'll be he'll be
Speaker 3: in difficulties there when he appears before the President. And
Speaker 3: this idea of slipping it in on the sidelines of
Speaker 3: the Gen seven was never a good idea. There would
Speaker 3: never be enough time to deal with the problems appropriately.
Speaker 3: But he just doesn't want to see the president. And
Speaker 3: I'm sure he's delighted by the fact that the president
Speaker 3: has gone off.
Speaker 2: Do you believe that?
Speaker 3: Okay, right, that's my view. I don't think it's at
Speaker 3: all disappointed. I think he's delighted because the last thing
Speaker 3: he wants is to have to face the president and
Speaker 3: who's going to try and cover it with peripheral matters.
Speaker 3: But the President was going to really come to the
Speaker 3: very important issues, particularly of the fact that we are
Speaker 3: just not attending to our defense, we've let it run
Speaker 3: down terribly, and that this is a government which shows
Speaker 3: a real sheepishness in relation to Beijing. I think they're
Speaker 3: very happy to be the quiet tributary state of Beijing
Speaker 3: and misbehave in any way. And we saw that when
Speaker 3: the Chinese Communists came with the Navy and started a
Speaker 3: firing exercise in our waters in our economic zone. That
Speaker 3: didn't tell us about it, and we had to rely
Speaker 3: on a civil aviation pilot to tell us that this
Speaker 3: was going on. And then they went round the country
Speaker 3: where they obviously were conducting an intelligence operation in relation
Speaker 3: to our ports. And what we're doing. And it's extraordinary
Speaker 3: when you look at the situation in relation to climate change.
Speaker 3: And I must say once again we said were having
Speaker 3: a very cold winter for a world in which the
Speaker 3: climate's supposed to be warming, and we've had a very
Speaker 3: moderate sumhow we don't have the heat waves that we
Speaker 3: used to have. But there's an obsession with this, But
Speaker 3: scientists to support the view that man is contributing to
Speaker 3: climate change all agree. Nobody challenges but position that what
Speaker 3: we're doing is not going to change the climate in
Speaker 3: the slightest. We're spending this enormous amount of money, We're
Speaker 3: running down industries, We're changing what was a cheap and
Speaker 3: reliable grid, We're changing that to something which is expensive
Speaker 3: and something which is unreliable. And nobody's benefiting except for
Speaker 3: a few people who are supportive of this, particularly those
Speaker 3: in the political class who are behind candidates and who
Speaker 3: are making a lot of money out of renewables. But
Speaker 3: the only organization which is profiting from all this enormously
Speaker 3: is the Communist Party of China. It's extraordinary, and why
Speaker 3: are they doing this. Why do they take the view
Speaker 3: that we must be very quiet and say nothing when
Speaker 3: the Chinese navy Behos Provoca. We've just got to accept
Speaker 3: all this. And then in relation to what's happening in
Speaker 3: the Middle East, they've pulled away very much from American policy.
Speaker 3: When we were asked to provide a ship, not because
Speaker 3: the Americans needed a ship, but because they wanted it
Speaker 3: is a multi national fleet to go there and deal
Speaker 3: with the hootsies who are terrorists funded by Tehran. The
Speaker 3: government refused to send one, which is the first time
Speaker 3: I think we've done anything like that. And we're pulling
Speaker 3: away from Israel. We seem to be treating Israel as
Speaker 3: though Israel is the hostile country, whereas everybody knows, and
Speaker 3: Trump has been the one to work this out, that
Speaker 3: America and Israel can't allow Tehran to have atomic weapons
Speaker 3: because they're very open agenda is and they now it
Speaker 3: in the maxims, the slogans that they pronounce regularly, death
Speaker 3: to Israel and death to America. And we know that
Speaker 3: this dangerous, quite insane regime will do terrible things if
Speaker 3: they get nuclear weapons, and they seem to be intent,
Speaker 3: or there seemed to be intent. They are intent on
Speaker 3: getting them, and Israel cannot tolerate that because as Nettano
Speaker 3: who said they had one holocaust in the previous century
Speaker 3: and they're not going to have another holocaust. You know.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about the other day too, just moving
Speaker 2: back to China, I saw this story Orrancy and End's website.
Speaker 2: China's aircraft carriers send message in the open Pacific for
Speaker 2: the first time, and bigger and more powerful ships are coming.
Speaker 2: It's just there on a website, and it's not like
Speaker 2: it's hidden.
Speaker 3: Yes, and the leader has made it very clear that
Speaker 3: he wants to know by twenty seven whether the Chinese
Speaker 3: forces are in a position to take Taiwan.
Speaker 2: Well, that seems to be the date that's bandied around
Speaker 2: a lot too, because a lot of people have said,
Speaker 2: you know, under the cover of darkness, with this current distraction,
Speaker 2: that you know, we can look at that. But I'd
Speaker 2: heard twenty twenty seven bandied around a few times.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, several times. And it would be an obvious
Speaker 3: thing to do if you were going to do this,
Speaker 3: to do it when the United States is engaged heavily
Speaker 3: in the Middle East, that would be the ideal time.
Speaker 3: But as I've been arguing that column for a long time,
Speaker 3: there is an axis which is Moscow, in Tehran, Beijing
Speaker 3: and Piangyang. And that axis is an axis which is
Speaker 3: completely against our concepts of Western civilization and democracy in
Speaker 3: the rule of law. It presents a very rival view
Speaker 3: of the world and it's something which goes completely against
Speaker 3: what we believe in.
Speaker 2: So what do you think is going on?
Speaker 12: Then?
Speaker 2: For the last month the Chinese aircraft carriers operating closer
Speaker 2: and closer to us and further from their own shores.
Speaker 2: Are they testing their technology testing the waters?
Speaker 3: Without doubt they are, and they're testing what they can
Speaker 3: do in the event of the struggle. And the news
Speaker 3: has come out recently that communication devices have been found
Speaker 3: in solar panels and turbines and even electric cars which
Speaker 3: would allow those engaging to turn off the power to
Speaker 3: these things, and that they're also have been looking at
Speaker 3: the ways in which we communicate with the rest of
Speaker 3: the world. Jim mole and warned that if there were
Speaker 3: an invasion of Taiwan, we might not know about it
Speaker 3: because we might find that our communications with the world
Speaker 3: have been turned off, which would be very easy to do.
Speaker 3: But you know, when you don't, you have the ships
Speaker 3: that can cut through these things. There have been cases
Speaker 3: which have occurred in Europe where cables have been cut.
Speaker 3: They think by well, they know by Russian vessels that
Speaker 3: these powers are considering, they're contemplating the ways in which
Speaker 3: they should react if there is a breakouts of hostilities
Speaker 3: concerning example, concerning Taiwan, as there have been breakouts, as
Speaker 3: there is a continuing war in the Ukraine, there is
Speaker 3: a war in the Middle East.
Speaker 2: And as you've said time and time again on this program,
Speaker 2: but of course on your articles as well, that Albanesi
Speaker 2: and the government just seem to be turning a blind,
Speaker 2: iron ignorant i to this.
Speaker 3: Yes, they just don't seem to accept that these are
Speaker 3: the serious problems. But what we've got now is this
Speaker 3: ridiculous idea that they're calling both sides to de escalate
Speaker 3: and go into negotiations. There was a stage in the
Speaker 3: Second World War when the principal powers came together and
Speaker 3: they said, what the position is of the West in
Speaker 3: relation to Germany and Japan was unconditional surrender. There were
Speaker 3: going to be no negotiations. There was going to be
Speaker 3: no way in which there could be any any conditions
Speaker 3: imponies by either powers. They would be just they would
Speaker 3: have to be absolutely defeated, which of course they were.
Speaker 3: There is a time in struggle when that happens. And
Speaker 3: President Trump, probably against the wishes of Israel, insisted on
Speaker 3: sixty days in which Tehran had the opportunity the choice
Speaker 3: of voluntarily stopping the development of atomic weapons or having
Speaker 3: it imposed on them, and on the sixty first day
Speaker 3: Israel attack, because Israel cannot tolerate Tehran having nuclear weapons,
Speaker 3: because they know that these will be exploded over Israel
Speaker 3: and be worse, probably than what happened in the Second
Speaker 3: World War.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about history repeating after this, you don't mind
Speaker 2: holding on a moment, certainly, good to have you here
Speaker 2: with us. At twenty one minutes to three, We've got
Speaker 2: the good Professor David Flint on the phone and will
Speaker 2: take your cause. If you have anything you'd like to
Speaker 2: add after you've heard part two of our chat here
Speaker 2: with David Flint, will do that in just a moment,
Speaker 2: or on the text you can text now zero four
Speaker 2: six to zero eight seven three eight seven three. Just
Speaker 2: before we get back to the good Professor, Donald Trump
Speaker 2: has just tweeted on his Truth Social Truth social page.
Speaker 2: Is it tweeted that you go on Truth Social or
Speaker 2: post it anyway whatever. He said that we know exactly
Speaker 2: where the so called Supreme Leader is hiding. He's obviously
Speaker 2: talking about the leader of Iran here. He's an easy target,
Speaker 2: but he's safe there. We're not going to take him
Speaker 2: out and then brackets kill at least not for now.
Speaker 2: But we don't want missiles shot at civilians or American soldiers.
Speaker 2: Our patients is wearing thin. Thank you for your attention
Speaker 2: to this matter. He's also just tweeted out a moment
Speaker 2: ago as well, unconditional surrender, just those words. And he's
Speaker 2: also said that they now have complete and total control
Speaker 2: of the skies over Iran. So that's the latest with
Speaker 2: Donald Trump and what's going on with the situation in Iran,
Speaker 2: and we'll keep you updated with more details about that
Speaker 2: as they break throughout the morning as well. Back with them,
Speaker 2: Professor David Flint, thank you so much for holding on.
Speaker 2: I was saying off air a moment ago when we
Speaker 2: were talking that it does feel like we've got some
Speaker 2: kind of history repeating here, maybe even going back to
Speaker 2: say nineteen fourteen. Are you seeing any parallels here?
Speaker 3: It is possible. There's no requirement that this will happen.
Speaker 3: There's no there's no promise that this will happen, but
Speaker 3: it could happen. And if the resistance is such that
Speaker 3: a number of powers in this axis of evil decide
Speaker 3: to act together, then there could be a well. I
Speaker 3: suspect that they won't. I suspect that, as with the
Speaker 3: fall of the regime in Syria, Moscow will remain silent
Speaker 3: because they're over committed. In relation to the Ukraine, I
Speaker 3: doubt that the Chinese Communists will have been very careful
Speaker 3: since since Korea and Vietnam. When they were defeated effectively
Speaker 3: by another communist country in Vietnam, they realized that their
Speaker 3: armies weren't weren't tried and tested, and that's why they
Speaker 3: went back and they've really built up their armies. But
Speaker 3: of course they still know that they haven't yet been
Speaker 3: tried in the field. But they have advanced remarkably in
Speaker 3: ensuring that they have the latest of everything in relation
Speaker 3: to their weapons. They've been very good in getting the
Speaker 3: necessary intellectual property, often taking it from the United States
Speaker 3: and then using it and with they're very good scientists
Speaker 3: developing it even further, so that they are very much,
Speaker 3: very powerful in relation to military matters, and they do
Speaker 3: it more cheaply than the West does. They do it
Speaker 3: without the problems that you have in the West of
Speaker 3: environmental considerations and the need to have the approval of
Speaker 3: various levels of public authorities. And they're able to take
Speaker 3: advantages that are available to us.
Speaker 2: So, if you're going to draw a parallels between nineteen fourteen,
Speaker 2: has the spark that ignited the conflict already happened or
Speaker 2: is this still a possibility.
Speaker 3: I think we've gone further than ever, or further than
Speaker 3: at any time since the Cuban affair. Remember the Cuban
Speaker 3: affair where the Russians were establishing bases in Cuba.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Christiev I think that was wasn't That's right?
Speaker 3: Yes, And they could reach the United States with weapons
Speaker 3: there if they installed the missiles and so on, And
Speaker 3: Kennedy issued an ultimatum, and the Russian ships continued to
Speaker 3: approach the United States. The world watched in horror, and
Speaker 3: fortunately the Russians turned around, they pulled their forces back,
Speaker 3: and the Americans made some concessions in in Turkey, they
Speaker 3: reduced some bases there, and the Russians did not proceed
Speaker 3: further with the very dangerous bases that they were going
Speaker 3: to build in Tuma.
Speaker 2: Well, because the solution to that was Kennedy offering them
Speaker 2: to not have a loss of face. Are we in
Speaker 2: a position where we have diplomatically the opportunities to do
Speaker 2: that now.
Speaker 3: I don't think the Iranian Mullers are worried about face.
Speaker 3: I think they are worried, however, that they've been reduced
Speaker 3: remarkably by the ingenuity of the Israelis. The Israelis have
Speaker 3: really been able to destroy, as they say, decapitate a
Speaker 3: lot of the power in Iran. They've been apparently instructed
Speaker 3: by Trump not to kill the Supreme Leader, which obviously
Speaker 3: is within the within their You know, they could do
Speaker 3: that because they have done some remarkable things. And remember,
Speaker 3: for example, when they they used or they use all
Speaker 3: of the mobile phones of those who were acting for
Speaker 3: the regime and they.
Speaker 2: Use them as bombs, that's right, the blackberries and the pages.
Speaker 3: They yeah, yes, the pages, and this was this was
Speaker 3: a remarkable thing. And the fact that they have been
Speaker 3: able to penetrate into Iran, They've been able to get
Speaker 3: into places and have people eliminated who are running these affairs.
Speaker 3: That has really shocked the Iranians. The government in Iran
Speaker 3: is very unpopular. We foolishly, under Carter pulled the rug
Speaker 3: under the Shah. The Shah was an authoritarian leader, he argued.
Speaker 3: He said, well, this is the only way you can
Speaker 3: rule Iran. He's got a rule it with a certain
Speaker 3: degree of strength. But he he really advanced the country.
Speaker 3: And when you look back on films and photographs of
Speaker 3: life in Tehran at the time of the show, women
Speaker 3: were dressed completely in the Western style. They were looking
Speaker 3: very attractive and up to date. They were taking part
Speaker 3: in life and being involved in businesses and other activities.
Speaker 3: Since this crowd of muellers have come in, they've turned
Speaker 3: everything back to something belonging very much to the past,
Speaker 3: and they are really hated. Seems, as far as I
Speaker 3: can see from what I've been reading, by the Iranian
Speaker 3: people and their hold over the country as weakened. And
Speaker 3: it's a question, as you said earlier, to an extent
Speaker 3: of face, not that the regime worries about it, but
Speaker 3: face before the Iranian people, and if they're seen as
Speaker 3: being weak, this will only encourage Geronians to take action
Speaker 3: against them.
Speaker 2: So do you think that this is what this is
Speaker 2: all about then regime change. And if that's the case,
Speaker 2: I mean previously with Iraq and Afghanistan, that didn't go
Speaker 2: down too well.
Speaker 3: No, I think that if they do that well. For example,
Speaker 3: in Afghanistan, the Americans handled it very badly. As you say,
Speaker 3: there was a move to bring back the king and
Speaker 3: restore what was the old system of running Afghanistan, which
Speaker 3: is what they did. But they rejected that and established
Speaker 3: brilliant place people who should not have been running the country,
Speaker 3: and it certainly didn't work. And a similar thing happened
Speaker 3: in the Iraq. They're not very good.
Speaker 2: No, Well, there was never a contingency or an in
Speaker 2: game or any kind of plan. From what I could gather.
Speaker 3: The old powers from Europe are much better at this.
Speaker 3: The British work and the French were bying in people
Speaker 3: from the existing ruling class and ruling through them. But
Speaker 3: the Americas allowed anybody to come in whom they thought
Speaker 3: might be a good rule of the country, and they
Speaker 3: weren't the sort of people that should be doing that.
Speaker 3: We saw that in Vietnam, we saw that in Iraq,
Speaker 3: and we saw that in Afghanistan.
Speaker 2: Well, history just repeats itself on that, doesn't it over and.
Speaker 3: Over, and although no power, particularly the British, was able
Speaker 3: to take Afghanistan. The way they ruled most of India
Speaker 3: and many of their colonies was through the existing ruling class,
Speaker 3: as did the French, and that worked very well and
Speaker 3: quite often it produced a better form of government at
Speaker 3: the time, because it allowed for the modernization of the
Speaker 3: country and the elimination of practices which weren't acceptable in
Speaker 3: a modern society. Of course, for example, in India they
Speaker 3: got rid of suti, which was that there was an
Speaker 3: obligation on the widow to jump on the sumi or
Speaker 3: power of the man who died, and that so offended
Speaker 3: the British they made as illegal, and it was of
Speaker 3: course obviously very good for the women of India.
Speaker 2: The article in the Spectator this Thursday, it's called enriching
Speaker 2: Beijing flirting with Tehran. Let's talk again next week if
Speaker 2: we're still here.
Speaker 3: And I was very interested in Keith Suter's comment about
Speaker 3: the Shah.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, there was a quote from you once again
Speaker 2: where there are no guarantees. I liked that quote too,
Speaker 2: You've given us because that applies to everything I think
Speaker 2: it does. Indeed, quickly, thank you David thank you. Eight
Speaker 2: minutes to three. Hello, Craig Redcliffe, how are you? Thank
Speaker 2: you for your text? And another one came in here,
Speaker 2: but I didn't get a name for who sent this.
Speaker 2: I heard the same as you, though, Phil Short a
Speaker 2: day of the year, maybe tomorrow, that's what I thought.
Speaker 2: I heard in the news too, but it may be Saturday,
Speaker 2: June twenty one. I'm not sure that's what Google says
Speaker 2: Saturday June twenty one, so maybe our news meant to
Speaker 2: say that, or maybe they did. Maybe we were only
Speaker 2: half hearing. And thank you for your recipe for potatoes too.
Speaker 2: That's what I had for dinner last night. Surprisingly good.
Speaker 2: I thought if you heard earlier, I thought I was
Speaker 2: in trouble when my wife said we're having potatoes for dinner,
Speaker 2: and I thought, well, what about the rest of it?
Speaker 2: And it turned out was really good. I highly recommend it.
Speaker 2: So we'll talk to Sarah Borer and what she's find
Speaker 2: out what she's got for us this morning in the
Speaker 2: air fryer. I think it's a curry, so we'll find
Speaker 2: out what that is. Maybe we can name that as well.
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Speaker 2: how are you? She says Phil, I really enjoyed the
Speaker 2: interview with Professor Flint. I can't sleep at the moment
Speaker 2: as my three and a half year old grand is
Speaker 2: having a tonsils removed tomorrow. I'm sorry to hear that,
Speaker 2: and I'm having her two year old sister with me.
Speaker 2: I hope everything's okay, but I'm a bit anxious. No,
Speaker 2: I think that's absolutely fine. That is routine. I remember
Speaker 2: having my tonsils out as well when I was about
Speaker 2: probably eight, somewhere between eight and ten, Legoni, although I
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Speaker 2: it's only when you get older they don't take your
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Speaker 2: actually have your tonsils out. But I'm not sure when
Speaker 2: that is certainly not in my own profession as a doctor,
Speaker 2: as a surgeon, I don't like to talk about that
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Speaker 2: Hospitals Australia, will be joining us very soon in the
Speaker 2: next hour to talk about heart surgery. Day hospitals are
Speaker 2: they the way of the future. And the thing that
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Speaker 2: the end with everything else that went was going on
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Speaker 2: result I couldn't actually go and visit him in his
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Speaker 2: he talks about pets and he talks about jets. He's
Speaker 2: an airline pilot but also does pets and they was
Speaker 2: talking to Dale about this and said, you know what,
Speaker 2: there's probably something in that, not maybe necessarily talking about airlines,
Speaker 2: but certainly talking about pets. And we think that, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe that's an opportunity for us to do that, to
Speaker 2: keep your suggestions coming through on zero four six zero
Speaker 2: eight seven three eight seven three. I mean, I'm happy to,
Speaker 2: you know, put on whatever you like. I'd like to
Speaker 2: act as a conduit towards your evenings morning's entertainment, so
Speaker 2: you But as I said, the thing that we found
Speaker 2: with Rick was that it was drip feeding when it
Speaker 2: came to getting the calls on the air. So we thought, well,
Speaker 2: let's try and freshen things up. By the way, Brisbane
Speaker 2: thirteen point five degrees at the moment, but it feels
Speaker 2: like thirteen Hello, Gene, how are you? Maybe if Rick
Speaker 2: is promoted the night before or discuss history of various islands, Gene,
Speaker 2: we could do that. But again we did. We just
Speaker 2: found out that it was just grinding along a little
Speaker 2: bit and people knew that the segment was coming up, Gene.
Speaker 2: But nonetheless we're still found that we just weren't getting
Speaker 2: the interaction that the show and the segment used to
Speaker 2: have because perhaps people don't have as much stuff that
Speaker 2: they want to try and find out about how much
Speaker 2: it's worth. But anyway, all of these are thoughts go
Speaker 2: into the consideration the consideration tray, which is metaphorical because
Speaker 2: it doesn't exist, But we can make one for you
Speaker 2: if you like to. Hello Dretta on the Central Coast, Phil,
Speaker 2: I'm glad you liked your air fried potato which my
Speaker 2: wife made for me for dinner last night. Gee it
Speaker 2: was nice too, really good, she says. I cook everything
Speaker 2: in air fries, everything from cakes to banana peels. Have
Speaker 2: your wife google the recipe for banana peels. I didn't
Speaker 2: know that. That's brilliant. What did we do, Deuretta before
Speaker 2: air fries? It's like what did we do before the
Speaker 2: mobile phone? Air fry is one of the greatest inventions
Speaker 2: of the last few years. Just talking about Dale. A
Speaker 2: moment ago, we were outside talking about excuse me, regime
Speaker 2: change in Iran because I said to him when I
Speaker 2: heard the news, I said, look, something's going to go
Speaker 2: on here with Donald Trump, or nothing's going to go on,
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of saber rattling at the moment.
Speaker 2: Even as a look at Fox News right now, Donald
Speaker 2: Trump is saying our patients is wearing thin. He's told
Speaker 2: everybody to evacuate two in Tehran. Millions of people took
Speaker 2: that as a good indication to get the heck out
Speaker 2: of Dodge. So something could go on or something may
Speaker 2: not go on. But I was talking to Dale outside
Speaker 2: and we were talking about, you know, regime change. And
Speaker 2: one thing's for sure is you know, democracy won't work.
Speaker 2: The idea of Western democracy won't work. So who knows
Speaker 2: what the getty the endgame is. Hey, I'm going to
Speaker 2: play Paul McCartney song in just a moment because it's
Speaker 2: Paul McCartney's birthday, and I'd like to get a suggestion
Speaker 2: from you as to what you would like me to
Speaker 2: play to honor Paul McCartney in our Music News segment,
Speaker 2: Would you like something from Wings? I still think the
Speaker 2: Wings was a via superior band to the Beatles, which
Speaker 2: has people up in arms about, you know, me saying that.
Speaker 2: It's like me saying I think Nickelback was a better
Speaker 2: band than Foo Fighters, and I stand by that too,
Speaker 2: But I still like Wings in anything that McCartney did
Speaker 2: with Wings over anything by the Beatles, but also the
Speaker 2: solo stuff could be good too. What would you like
Speaker 2: me to play for Paul McCartney. I'd like to play
Speaker 2: Band on the Run, but that's a bit long. That's
Speaker 2: the only problem with that. And the other one. I
Speaker 2: saw a couple of songs from the Venus and Mars
Speaker 2: album from Paul McCartney I thought might be quite good too,
Speaker 2: like letting Go or even Uncle Albert Admiral Halsey because
Speaker 2: there was a anniversary of that. So anyway, let me
Speaker 2: know what you think for a Paul McCartney song, a
Speaker 2: Wing song or a Beatles song. Please on the text
Speaker 2: zero four six zero eight seven three eight seven three.
Speaker 2: How are you Wendy?
Speaker 8: Oh, I'm signed, except that I have a feeling that
Speaker 8: we're back in the nineteen thirty nine when Neville Chamberlain
Speaker 8: was denying that Hitler was a threat and he could
Speaker 8: be negotiated with. And here he comes back waving a
Speaker 8: piece of paper saying, we've got pie piece in our time.
Speaker 2: I remember that getting off the plane. I think were
Speaker 2: getting on the plane. Yeah, I was getting off the plane.
Speaker 8: Was home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So who's playing the role of him?
Speaker 12: Then?
Speaker 8: Oh, I don't know, maybe somebody like Elba Easy, I
Speaker 8: mean our government denying completely that China and all the
Speaker 8: others are a threat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean he's not living in.
Speaker 8: A full's paradise for too long.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It seems to be that everybody that I talked
Speaker 2: to on this show, including you, Wendy, it's talking about
Speaker 2: the focus isn't on defense for a for Australia. Professor
Speaker 2: Flint talks about it every week too, and as does
Speaker 2: Terry Barnes, and everybody on the phone says, you know,
Speaker 2: our emphasis, our focus has got to be on defense.
Speaker 2: And also somebody suggested perhaps that's why Trump didn't really
Speaker 2: doesn't seem that keen to talk to Albanzi because albans
Speaker 2: is not coming with anything in defense of Australia.
Speaker 8: I agree with that. I think that Trump would or
Speaker 8: listen to somebody who talks the way he know what
Speaker 8: Easy talks as an insult or anyone's intelligence.
Speaker 2: What do you think? Yeah, what do you think is
Speaker 2: going on at the moment? Then with Donald Trump? Do
Speaker 2: you think that this is all just bluster, a bit
Speaker 2: of a saber rattling.
Speaker 8: I really don't know. I mean, I'm not okay, with
Speaker 8: what Trump is doing, he may be trying to hold
Speaker 8: off the inevitable war that going to happen. You can't reason,
Speaker 8: we desp you can't reason with tyrants.
Speaker 2: No, that's true.
Speaker 8: They won't listen to reason.
Speaker 2: Although at all. And actually, you know what, even threatening Wendy,
Speaker 2: that doesn't doesn't make any difference. Either doesn't because you know.
Speaker 8: Well, we've got to remain to remain for safe. Each
Speaker 8: country's got to remain strong with defenses, and we haven't
Speaker 8: got that. Australia's are sitting duck. Really, it's awful when
Speaker 8: you think of it, but there you go. We've got
Speaker 8: a couple of idiots running the country and that's all
Speaker 8: I've got to say. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Well, you're welcome, and you know you can ring any time.
Speaker 2: And by the way, Sharon loves hearing you on the air, Wendy,
Speaker 2: so she appreciates that. Are you sure that this is it?
Speaker 2: You don't have anything else that.
Speaker 8: You want to No, I haven't. I'd like to tell
Speaker 8: you that I've got a silent God, it's flipped my
Speaker 8: mind that I've got silent supporters who don't really ring in,
Speaker 8: but they listen to me.
Speaker 2: Mmmm.
Speaker 8: Yeah, anyway.
Speaker 2: No, you've forgotten something. No, you've forgotten something.
Speaker 8: Did I yes, I forget nound. I'll remind you.
Speaker 2: I know, I do know that. But you've forgotten something
Speaker 2: you promised me. Do you remember because I told my
Speaker 2: wife about it. She said to me, Oh, I'm a
Speaker 2: bit worried about your feet getting cold and you're getting
Speaker 2: cramps this weekend.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I told you to put your feet on your
Speaker 8: wife's back.
Speaker 2: No, I said, I'm not a pervert. But the other
Speaker 2: thing was, that's not perversion. It is in my house.
Speaker 8: It's a good it's a good reason for a divorce
Speaker 8: at all.
Speaker 2: You promised me, I said to my wife. I said,
Speaker 2: my feet are cold, as she said, okay, we'll go
Speaker 2: into town and we'll get you some bed socks. And
Speaker 2: I said, I don't need any bed socks because Wendy
Speaker 2: is giving me hers.
Speaker 8: Oh, I don't wear bed socks.
Speaker 2: You had said you had some bed socks last time
Speaker 2: we chatted, and you were going to give them to me.
Speaker 8: Oh, yes, yes, you did.
Speaker 2: I remember? You know, I remember. Well, I've been telling
Speaker 2: everybody about Wendy's bed socks and how much I can't
Speaker 2: wait for you to get them to me and.
Speaker 8: Will you just oh, well, I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 2: You were you lying to me, Wendy. You were lying
Speaker 2: to me? You don't have bed socks.
Speaker 8: From worry back here. Really, I'm like, I tell things
Speaker 8: I don't mean.
Speaker 2: I feel like I can never trust you again. Could
Speaker 2: you knit me some?
Speaker 8: I know I miss everything up.
Speaker 2: Ye could you knit me some, Wendy?
Speaker 8: Oh I can't knit? Oh?
Speaker 2: Okay, well, only because I love you so much. I'm
Speaker 2: going to let you off. But I've been, I have
Speaker 2: been telling you.
Speaker 8: I'm grad you still lightly, of.
Speaker 2: Course I do. But I'm a bit disappointed because I
Speaker 2: did tell my wife that you know you and I
Speaker 2: almost like we're having an affair. I'm getting your bed socks, and.
Speaker 8: Now that'll be the day. That'll be the day.
Speaker 2: Bless your Wendy. Take care lovely. Bye kay bye bye
Speaker 2: bye bye. Okay, So, eighteen minutes past three, I have
Speaker 2: some suggestions coming through here for the song we should
Speaker 2: play from Paul McCartney to celebrate his birthday. But keeping
Speaker 2: coming through zero four six zero eight seven three eight
Speaker 2: seven three and will make a decision after this twenty
Speaker 2: one minutes past three, We're going to talk about these
Speaker 2: day hospitals where you can go in and have surgery
Speaker 2: and be out in a day. How do they work
Speaker 2: and how does that work with your private health insurance too.
Speaker 2: I'm getting your suggest for a song to play for
Speaker 2: Paul McCartney on his birthday. Lisa said, photograph by the
Speaker 2: Beatles wasn't photograph, Lisa, Wasn't that a ringo star song?
Speaker 2: And it was a solo ringo star song? I'm not
Speaker 2: sure about that. Michael says, could you please discuss how
Speaker 2: to air fry potatoes? How about we get Sarah Borer
Speaker 2: to give us a potato air fry recipe. Dale's in
Speaker 2: and Dale was just wanting to find out what it
Speaker 2: was that we put on the potato at home, and
Speaker 2: I said lurpak. He said, I've never heard of blurpac,
Speaker 2: and I just presumed it was something that you know
Speaker 2: was vegan. Turns out it's not vegan. It's an English thing.
Speaker 2: My wife's English. So maybe that's where lure pack comes from.
Speaker 2: But if you haven't tried lurpack, give it a go,
Speaker 2: because I tell you it's pretty nice, made with full
Speaker 2: cream milk. I didn't know that though, because I didn't
Speaker 2: take milk. But you know, beggars can't be beggars can't
Speaker 2: be choosers when it comes to potatoes that well know
Speaker 2: one known saying it's a good Wings McCartney song. Thank
Speaker 2: you Duncan for that suggestion too, Geen. I haven't heard
Speaker 2: the segment that we were talking about, but Jean says
Speaker 2: she doesn't like it when it's on in Melbourne on
Speaker 2: the weekend, so she's not a big fan of it.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard it the guy that does the Jets
Speaker 2: and the Cats or the Jets and Pets. So I
Speaker 2: was gonna have a listen to it. But if you
Speaker 2: don't think it's a good idea, Geene, well I might
Speaker 2: even go with your suggestion there too. Also, Sharon says,
Speaker 2: I don't need an air fryer. This one coming up
Speaker 2: from Mick Pau McCartney coming up would be a good
Speaker 2: song to play for his birthday. Winter Solstice is on
Speaker 2: the twenty first, twelve forty two pm. To be exact,
Speaker 2: how much time do we lose Mick? Is it something
Speaker 2: just like a second or something like that? Let me
Speaker 2: know about that. Another text that come just came through
Speaker 2: from Michael. Let me roll it from Michael, he says
Speaker 2: that's a good one too, Paul McCartney song, if you're
Speaker 2: looking for one? Hello, justin how are you this warning
Speaker 2: in Blacktown? How's the temperature made?
Speaker 7: It's pretty chilly. It's pretty chilly, that's for sure. But
Speaker 7: used to being a night shift worker. But anyway, so
Speaker 7: are you working?
Speaker 2: Are you working at the moment? Mate?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 7: No, no, not at all, not at all, so but
Speaker 7: used to the hours just in the way, And yeah,
Speaker 7: I was just wondering about, Well, I have a bit
Speaker 7: of a theory with Trump and him leaving the G
Speaker 7: seven and this dramatic, dramatic exit. I just I really
Speaker 7: think this has been a set up from the start
Speaker 7: with Netting. How are you visiting Trump in mid twenty
Speaker 7: twenty four at Mari Lago? I mean, I think this
Speaker 7: has all been pre arranged. I mean, to me, on
Speaker 7: the surface, it looks like Israeli is sort of winning
Speaker 7: this conflict, and I think they just don't have the
Speaker 7: weapons to destroy the nuclear facilities. I think this is
Speaker 7: all pre arranged.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean it's easy to be skeptical, and
Speaker 2: understandably so, because you know, we live in dangerous times
Speaker 2: and we have every right to be skeptical about this.
Speaker 2: I'd had saw I saw somewhere talk of a bunker buster. Now,
Speaker 2: the bunker buster is something that can do the work
Speaker 2: that they want if they need to. In terms of
Speaker 2: the Iran's nuclear program, I'm led to believe it's underneath
Speaker 2: concrete that Israel perhaps don't have the equipment to do that,
Speaker 2: that perhaps the Americans do. That just came up as
Speaker 2: a fleeting story and it didn't really have that much
Speaker 2: substance to it. Do you think maybe that's what's on
Speaker 2: the cards here?
Speaker 7: Look, I have no doubt. I think if you really
Speaker 7: take a standback and have a look, there is no
Speaker 7: way Israel would undertake this if they didn't have the
Speaker 7: pre arranged capacity to take out the nuclear types, I mean,
Speaker 7: neither deep underground. Sure three or four bunker busters would
Speaker 7: come and do it, and you know, maybe one of
Speaker 7: the mother of all bombs, you know, at the end,
Speaker 7: and that will just take it right out. But I
Speaker 7: think that might not be exactly right. But I really
Speaker 7: think this is the plan, and I think this has
Speaker 7: been well. When does the head of a country like
Speaker 7: net and you go in and then visit the ex
Speaker 7: president of the United States, who's who is trying to
Speaker 7: become the president at his own personal residence for a
Speaker 7: big meeting.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, maybe curry favor and head your bets
Speaker 2: just in case would be one of my suggestions.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, But I mean, I don't think I think the
Speaker 7: secrecy will be enough that this could never be proven. Perhaps,
Speaker 7: But I mean, I think common sense sort of comes
Speaker 7: into this argument a little, just a little, and I
Speaker 7: think that you would. I think the the biggest question
Speaker 7: is would Israel undertake this venture knowing that they couldn't
Speaker 7: take those sites out? And I'm just sort of thinking
Speaker 7: to myself, well, I think that, you know, I mean,
Speaker 7: I think Israel's desire to get rid of their capacity
Speaker 7: to have nuclear weapons is a reasonable sort of planned
Speaker 7: considering what Iran has stated that their goal is to
Speaker 7: eliminate the Israeli state. So you know, when you talk
Speaker 7: to your dictators, like in Iran, you listen to what
Speaker 7: they tell you.
Speaker 2: Threat I hear what you're saying. But you know, the
Speaker 2: other thing is and I read because I've been reading
Speaker 2: loads and loads and loads about this, and one of
Speaker 2: the things I read the other day was just an
Speaker 2: opinion piece that said that this in a lot of ways.
Speaker 2: Sounds very similar to the approach to the weapons of
Speaker 2: mass destruction, which you know was the reason to a
Speaker 2: war in a Raq, which you know, depending on whatever
Speaker 2: way you want to dissect, that could have been about
Speaker 2: the oil. Could also have been about regime change, and
Speaker 2: regime change is being bandied around. If the idea was
Speaker 2: for regime change, then coming up with the root, well,
Speaker 2: coming up with the roofs that you know they've got
Speaker 2: nuclear weapons, then you have then you have essentially what
Speaker 2: we were duped into. And I'm not saying this is
Speaker 2: the case, and I don't know, and this was just
Speaker 2: an opinion piece, but you know, could it be perhaps
Speaker 2: another smoke screen?
Speaker 7: Well, I think there's one essential difference between the two.
Speaker 7: I think with the Raq most definitely the world was
Speaker 7: duped into that and the UN was duped and in.
Speaker 3: Lots of ways.
Speaker 7: But I think in this case, I mean, you've got
Speaker 7: It's not like Saddam his saying was coming out saying
Speaker 7: he had weapons of mass destruction, was going to unleash it.
Speaker 7: And look, I think in this case you've got the
Speaker 7: run saying we want nuclear weapons, and there's lots of people,
Speaker 7: I mean, these are agencies which are saying that they
Speaker 7: are getting very close. And you've got to remember there's
Speaker 7: also been the Russians coming in. They're allies with the Run.
Speaker 7: They've been coming in and potentially I can't speak for sure,
Speaker 7: but the word on the ground was that they are
Speaker 7: helping them, and if not materially, at least in the
Speaker 7: information technology space. So look, I think there is a
Speaker 7: difference there, and I think that you know, I don't
Speaker 7: think there's any deception in regards to Iran's desire to
Speaker 7: get a nuclear weapon, but.
Speaker 2: How much I think the thinking is how much do
Speaker 2: you know? How fine down the track are they really down?
Speaker 2: You know, are they days away or are they months away?
Speaker 2: Or are they years away from actually having.
Speaker 7: Yeah, look, the UN an agency Atomic agency has said
Speaker 7: that they are a fair way down the train, So
Speaker 7: that's I mean. I can't see the UN falsifying that information.
Speaker 7: I just can't. I think we have to remember this
Speaker 7: has been an ongoing contentious issue for fifteen years. And
Speaker 7: if you think to yourself, let's go back to two thousand,
Speaker 7: what was it, two thousand and seventeen, I think that
Speaker 7: the JOC forgotten the name of it. The JOC deal
Speaker 7: with Obama was called off by Trump, and I mean,
Speaker 7: that's a lot of time under the bridge.
Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, they see, they did seem to be
Speaker 2: making inroads, and I think that, you know, there was
Speaker 2: also a lot of politics in terms of you know,
Speaker 2: Trump wanting to just overturn that decision because he just
Speaker 2: perhaps didn't like the fact that Obama was making in
Speaker 2: roads there. But I just I'm reminded of and you mentioned,
Speaker 2: you know, the UN when they were pursuing I think
Speaker 2: it was the fourteen the Amendment fourteen forty one, which
Speaker 2: was where they were trying to find out whether or not,
Speaker 2: you know, under the ruling fourteen forty one, they weren't
Speaker 2: allowed to have chemicals of male weapons of mass destruction
Speaker 2: in Iraq. But it was actually and I think you're right.
Speaker 2: I don't think Saddam Hussein said that they did have
Speaker 2: weapons of mass destruction. It was Colin Powell who went
Speaker 2: to the United Nations. They held up a vile of
Speaker 2: anthrax and he said, look, this is what we're up against.
Speaker 2: And then down the track he said, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: I wish I hadn't said that, because we were you know,
Speaker 2: fed false information. It's hard to know who's got one,
Speaker 2: and you know nobody's going to be transparent about it either.
Speaker 7: Well, I think the I think that situation in the
Speaker 7: UN with Colin Power one hundred percent. I mean, they
Speaker 7: even set up a witness from Rock to verifyle this
Speaker 7: where she's come out later and stated that she was persuaded,
Speaker 7: if you want to put it that way. Look, I
Speaker 7: mean I think they said these are two thuations. I
Speaker 7: think during an analogy between the two, I think they're
Speaker 7: not analogous. I think they're apples and oranges.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but Iran has openly stated they want nuclear weapons.
Speaker 7: The UN Atomic Agency says, yes, they're further down the path.
Speaker 7: And you know, I can't say whether or not that
Speaker 7: information is corrupted by the Americans or Israelis, but I
Speaker 7: think the UN generally generally and only came generally so far.
Speaker 7: I think the Atomic Agency is pretty straight up. I
Speaker 7: don't think that they're corrupted. I mean, that's just I mean,
Speaker 7: to go to that argument, you'd have to suggest that
Speaker 7: the UN Atomic Agency is corrupted.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's reasonable to assume that they are
Speaker 7: further along. I don't know if they're only as the
Speaker 7: Israelis have stated six weeks away and all this sort
Speaker 7: of stuff, but or whether the Israelis have corrupted their
Speaker 7: information influencing Trump. I mean, that's that's another angle that
Speaker 7: you could look at. But I think that I don't
Speaker 7: think it's anything like that other situation. I think that
Speaker 7: analysis was pretty misplaced.
Speaker 3: I'm thet it go.
Speaker 2: I better go. But mate, I really appreciate your calling
Speaker 2: through justin ring any time. Mate, It's nice to have
Speaker 2: a great chat with you. I'm going to get to
Speaker 2: work this and then get back to your music news
Speaker 2: and more of your text. But I just remember article
Speaker 2: fourteen forty one, I think it was called going back
Speaker 2: to two thousand and three, and I remember the United
Speaker 2: Nations Chief Inspector was he called Hunts Blicks I think
Speaker 2: from memory, I remember him running around saying, you know
Speaker 2: that the hang on you just being a bit too
Speaker 2: soon here, you know, let's try and get some more
Speaker 2: information sort of remember that period quite quite clearly. Strangely enough,
Speaker 2: all right, three thirty three, twenty seven minutes to four
Speaker 2: in the old school. Do you want to know what
Speaker 2: it's like down the south coast, Well, John will tell
Speaker 2: you freezing zero point eight degrees, but it feels like
Speaker 2: two point three more of your text emails coming up.
Speaker 2: And also we'll get to the song that you've suggested,
Speaker 2: so in music news we can celebrate Paul McCartney's birthday.
Speaker 2: How are you this morning? Anyway? And it's pretty cold
Speaker 2: out there in the middle of the week. It's Wednesday,
Speaker 2: heading towards the weekend, it's nearly hit that downhill stage,
Speaker 2: but we've still got a bit to go yet. Hello, Gene,
Speaker 2: how are you phil? Why with all the construction companies,
Speaker 2: Jean says on the text, why have they gone bust?
Speaker 2: Where have all the workers on these jobs gone? That
Speaker 2: is a damn fine question, Gene. I was thinking exactly
Speaker 2: the same thing. And we're going to talk about this
Speaker 2: a little bit later on this morning with Garth Davis,
Speaker 2: who's a real estate and property expert, because they're trying
Speaker 2: to get overseas tradees to come and fix our housing crisis,
Speaker 2: and they're offering them ten thousand dollars. As you say,
Speaker 2: way to pay ten thousand dollars? That's crazy. And also
Speaker 2: thank you for the suggestion for all you need is love,
Speaker 2: Gene too for a port mcartney, Well, I'll tell you
Speaker 2: which song we're going to get too into a moment.
Speaker 2: But that's exactly what I thought, Geane, because okay, tid yaka.
Speaker 2: But I'd be a laborer, even at my age now
Speaker 2: if this ended tomorrow, I've often thought, you know what,
Speaker 2: I'd like to do, something like laboring, and anybody it's
Speaker 2: a labor or a trade would go, are you're kidding?
Speaker 3: Mate?
Speaker 2: It's hid yaka? You know what? It's good. Honest's work though, too,
Speaker 2: isn't it. And I can't go into the it area,
Speaker 2: and nor would I want to, but I would. I
Speaker 2: would shovel stuff if I needed to. I've got no
Speaker 2: skills in anything else. I can't build anything, forget that.
Speaker 2: But if you just came to you know, like digging
Speaker 2: holes or things like that, or you know, like laying
Speaker 2: bricks or something that I could actually do, I would
Speaker 2: do that. And I quite happily do this. And Dale,
Speaker 2: by the way, said he'd be a postman. And I've
Speaker 2: also thought about that, you know, the idea of doing
Speaker 2: honest work. To me, Jean, it sounds like a really
Speaker 2: really good idea too. And after forty five years, I'm
Speaker 2: ready up this ends. I don't think i'll go back
Speaker 2: into I think I'll go and do something like that,
Speaker 2: which is honest work. So I'm really interested, Genas. And
Speaker 2: the money is good too, isn't it. So I'm really
Speaker 2: interested to talk about this a little bit later on
Speaker 2: this morning, Gene to find out, you know, why it
Speaker 2: is that we need overseas tradees and we'll take some
Speaker 2: calls on that too. Hello, Bruce, how are you Seven
Speaker 2: countries already have nuclear weapons? Iran would make it eight,
Speaker 2: he says on the text, and Iran would make sure
Speaker 2: the other countries had nuclear weapons as well. How would
Speaker 2: the world function if twelve countries had it? That's unclear?
Speaker 2: Chris said, Hello, Chris, how are your buddy? Regarding our
Speaker 2: military position? I agree with Wendy. I was born during
Speaker 2: World War Two and saw the horrors of the Vietnam War.
Speaker 2: And by the way, Albanizi refuses to act against the
Speaker 2: fake Palestinian compatriots he has fostered in our midst and
Speaker 2: due to his pretend cohesive action the voice and he's
Speaker 2: done nothing to help the outback tribes live any better.
Speaker 2: The man's a fraud, a perfect example or exemplar, as
Speaker 2: you say, of the Peter principle shown in every statement
Speaker 2: he makes, and I know you meant to say exemplar
Speaker 2: to Chris, and I would never argue with that. I
Speaker 2: don't offer our people ten thousand dollars. There's somebody on
Speaker 2: the text, are you an employer, because by all means
Speaker 2: bring me a little bit later. I'd be interested to
Speaker 2: see how employers would feel too, in terms of getting
Speaker 2: overseas tradees to try and fix our housing problems. And
Speaker 2: that's not disagree with that. Yes, we do have housing problems.
Speaker 2: I was talking about lure Pack before. Lure Pack is
Speaker 2: the same butter they use on a well known cooking show.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that sid Wayne and Duncan said lure
Speaker 2: Pack is a Danish brand. Well, we've certainly got Dale
Speaker 2: on board with the potato and the lure pack. So
Speaker 2: we'll give you an answer as to what he thinks
Speaker 2: about that a little bit later on. Let's get to
Speaker 2: today's music news, and we'll talk about which song I'm
Speaker 2: going to play from Paul McCartney as suggested by you,
Speaker 2: because it is Paul McCartney's birthday today, born in nineteen
Speaker 2: forty two. Other news that we have nineteen seventy seven
Speaker 2: on this day, June eighteen, was that Fleetwood Mac's song
Speaker 2: Dreams went to number one on the Top one hundred.
Speaker 2: Was the only song to top that chart, the Hot
Speaker 2: one hundred. I didn't know that. I thought that Fleetwood
Speaker 2: Mac would have had loads of number one songs. Here's
Speaker 2: a game changer. Eighteenth of June nineteen forty eight, Columbia
Speaker 2: Records started the first mass production of the thirty three
Speaker 2: RPM thirty three revs per minute long player. The new
Speaker 2: format could contain a maximum of twenty three minutes of
Speaker 2: music beside, versus the three minutes that you could get
Speaker 2: on the old seventy eight RPM disc. So an annivers thary,
Speaker 2: the records still going. It's cost more than a CD
Speaker 2: these days. Who would have thought that records would out
Speaker 2: last CDs? Isn't that crazy? And here's another one for you.
Speaker 2: Van Morrison, Cindy Lauper, and Toby Keith were among the
Speaker 2: inductees into the Songwriters Hall of Fame at a star
Speaker 2: starded galas a gal in New York City. Grateful Dead's
Speaker 2: Jerry Garcier was also inducted posthumously, alongside the band's Robert Hunter.
Speaker 2: Just on the subject of Van Morrison. Then that was
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen. Van Morrison was under a record contract with
Speaker 2: his record company and he didn't want to keep writing
Speaker 2: the kinds of songs that they wanted him to write.
Speaker 2: He's a very prickly character, Van Morrison, so he said,
Speaker 2: and they said you still owe us a record. So
Speaker 2: he said, okay, I think they said you still owe
Speaker 2: us three records. So went into the studio, I had
Speaker 2: a bottle of whiskey and banged out three albums to
Speaker 2: get out of the recording contracts. And he said, here
Speaker 2: you go, here's your records. Didn't write any songs, he
Speaker 2: just said, Roll had his band with him. Let me
Speaker 2: give you an example of one of the songs that
Speaker 2: Van Morrison did. I'll just play a little bit of
Speaker 2: it that he gave to the record company and said,
Speaker 2: here you go, here's your album. Now I'm going to
Speaker 2: be out of this contract. I'm going to go and
Speaker 2: do the music that I want to do. So here's
Speaker 2: one of the songs, or part of one of the
Speaker 2: songs that Van Morrison gave to his record company. I
Speaker 2: can see better look on your face that you've got rangworm.
Speaker 2: Song's called Breenworm.
Speaker 15: I'm very sorryber, I have to tell you that you've
Speaker 15: got rangworm.
Speaker 2: Imagine the record company's face when they heard that. Okay,
Speaker 2: birthdays Paul McCartney and also Nathan Cavalary. Do you remember
Speaker 2: Nathan Cavaliery? Do you remember when he was on the
Speaker 2: charts with the song Little Egypt. This is going to
Speaker 2: make you and me feel really old, But little Nathan
Speaker 2: Cavalery who I think Tommy Emmanuel might have been his mentor. Anyway,
Speaker 2: it's his birthday today. He's forty three, cricky, How old
Speaker 2: do you feel now? He's forty three? He was a kid,
Speaker 2: he was nine. Anyway, it's his birthday. Alison Moyer, she
Speaker 2: was out here recently in Yazoo. She did some shows
Speaker 2: in Australia. It's her birthday and a couple of anniversaries.
Speaker 2: The Beatles performed their first Australian concerts at Sydney Stadium
Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty four. Oh mate, Bob Rodgers would have
Speaker 2: been there. They played four more shows on June nineteen
Speaker 2: and twenty before flying to New Zealand. Imagine that nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty four in Australia. The amount of excitement that there
Speaker 2: would have been going on because Paul McCartney and the
Speaker 2: other guys were in Australia on this day in nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty four. Were you one of the people who couldn't
Speaker 2: sleep with the possibility of meeting your favorite Beatle maybe
Speaker 2: going to the concert, maybe you had concert tickets. Wow,
Speaker 2: that was a moment in time, wasn't it. And part
Speaker 2: of that was Paul McCartney. It's Paul McCartney's birthday today.
Speaker 2: I had a whole bunch of songs that people suggested
Speaker 2: that I play. I'm going to play the one that
Speaker 2: David and somebody else, so I think this one actually
Speaker 2: got two so that's something I got. Only two were matching,
Speaker 2: which for me is a majority in this case to
Speaker 2: play this song. What a terrific song. Happy birthday, Paul McCartney.
Speaker 2: Here he is with wings and this song is called
Speaker 2: My Love. What a terrific song. Both said, not many
Speaker 2: people would have been born in the middle of World
Speaker 2: War Two like Port McCartney.
Speaker 3: And out of.
Speaker 2: The four Beatles, ringos the worst trauma, it's freddod Bogue.
Speaker 2: Happy birthday, Paul McCartney. What a good song. That is
Speaker 2: one a lovely song that is for the rock in
Speaker 2: your life. I'd like to dedicate that to my wife
Speaker 2: because things have been a bit tough lately and she's
Speaker 2: been like a rock. And I'm sure that you've got
Speaker 2: somebody in your life too that's been able to support
Speaker 2: you like that. So let's dedicate that song not just
Speaker 2: a Paul McCartney on his birthday, but to the person
Speaker 2: in your life who is your love, who is your
Speaker 2: rock as well? All Right, I love Medicaport. You know
Speaker 2: who we haven't got to yet. She ain't cooking a rock,
Speaker 2: but I tell you what she's got something that we
Speaker 2: can't wait to get our teeth into, and that would
Speaker 2: be Sarah Bora. With today after this the recipe of
Speaker 2: the day, eight minutes to four, here comes Sarah Bora.
Speaker 2: Let's find out what she's got cooking for us. You're
Speaker 2: not going to believe this, Sarah Bora. But last night
Speaker 2: I was talking to Russell set right down Natural Path,
Speaker 2: and he said that curry and some curry dishes are
Speaker 2: good for getting rid of cognitive decline.
Speaker 16: Oh I'm hoping I'm set for life then, because I
Speaker 16: love a curry.
Speaker 2: Well, that brings us to tonight's recipe. What have you got?
Speaker 16: It sure does this is you know me, I really
Speaker 16: like an easy midweek meal. This is it and it
Speaker 16: packs in the edge as well. It's a colieflower curry
Speaker 16: with hallomy in it as well. It's got the Corma
Speaker 16: flavors in, so a really nice Indian curry and it's
Speaker 16: so quick and easy. You want to start off by
Speaker 16: getting all of your ingredients prepared, so dice a large onion.
Speaker 16: You need one hundred and forty grams of tomato paste,
Speaker 16: two tablespoons of Cormer curry powder. I'd never bought the
Speaker 16: pre mixed curry powder before, but it was really easy
Speaker 16: to get from the supermarket. And you could get a
Speaker 16: really good one too that had all of the fol
Speaker 16: spices in it, so you knew that it was good.
Speaker 16: You need a medium head of colieflour trimmed into its floorrets,
Speaker 16: four hundred grams of polluomy cush into bite sized pieces,
Speaker 16: and then four hundred mili of coconut milk. Start off
Speaker 16: by heating two tablespoons of gee or flavorless oil. If
Speaker 16: you don't have g which is just a clarified fater,
Speaker 16: you can just use as I said, a flavorless oil
Speaker 16: but doesn't taste like anything, so you don't want to
Speaker 16: be adding any extra flavors to the dish, so maybe
Speaker 16: an olive oil would work. Put that in a large
Speaker 16: frying pan, place it over medium heat once it's hot.
Speaker 16: And I used to pots of this because I had
Speaker 16: too much coulieflour to do in the frying pan, So
Speaker 16: either all works. When it's hot. Add in your onion,
Speaker 16: saute that until it's soft and translucent. Add in your
Speaker 16: curry powder and cook that off just for about a
Speaker 16: minute and so that it's coating the onion. Add in
Speaker 16: your tomato paste and then cook it until the paste
Speaker 16: darkens ever so slightly. It'll take out that bit flavor,
Speaker 16: so you want that to change in color and make
Speaker 16: sure it's coating the onion. Adding your cauliflower florrets and
Speaker 16: the recipe sets adding the hallumi at this stage, but
Speaker 16: I found that it really broke up, so adding the
Speaker 16: hallumi later. So adding your cauliflour, cook it for a
Speaker 16: few minutes, and then once that's kind of starting to soften,
Speaker 16: adding your four hundred mills of coconut milk. Do it
Speaker 16: gently to combine and let it simmer for at least
Speaker 16: ten minutes or until the curry has reduced down. The
Speaker 16: sauces thickened, and you want the coulieflour to be really
Speaker 16: edible as well, So I like to be able to
Speaker 16: put a fork in there. And once you can break
Speaker 16: the florests apart easily with a fork, that's when you
Speaker 16: know it's easily ready to go. About five minutes into
Speaker 16: that ten minutes, when it's reducing, I would add in
Speaker 16: the halluomi. I would suggest adding it in a little
Speaker 16: bit later than the recipe suggests, just so that it
Speaker 16: doesn't break apart. The first time I did this, you
Speaker 16: kind of end up with a mush which still tasted fine.
Speaker 16: But to be able to actually have the hallumi in
Speaker 16: those bite sized pieces, I would add it in a
Speaker 16: little bit later. If your sauce is reducing too thickly
Speaker 16: quickly though, turn down the heat a little bit and
Speaker 16: add in a splash of boiling water to loosen it up.
Speaker 16: The recipe suggests that you can serve it with rice
Speaker 16: and nane. We just had ours with nane and it
Speaker 16: was absolutely delicious and it's good. Heat it up the
Speaker 16: next day as well.
Speaker 2: Brilliant. Have you got a name for it?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 16: My one is really boring. It's just a halloomy cauliflower corma.
Speaker 2: Well, that's lucky, You've come to the right guy.
Speaker 16: Then my favorite part of the segment.
Speaker 2: Sarah's Hello, loumy good Karmacorma.
Speaker 16: That was a good one. I was. I was trying
Speaker 16: all afternoon to think of some really good titles for
Speaker 16: this one, and I just I'm not as good as you.
Speaker 16: I can't do it.
Speaker 2: Well, you're lucky because the other name that I was
Speaker 2: I came up with was karmacorma chameleon.
Speaker 16: That was the only thing I could do. But it
Speaker 16: was and as good as that. I was just thinking
Speaker 16: of corma chameleon, but I was like, no, it's not
Speaker 16: going to cut it. It's not good enough.
Speaker 2: Good to torture Sarah and check out the website for
Speaker 2: the recipes as well for that. Let's get to the
Speaker 2: news after this. Four minutes, four newspapers after this, Let's
Speaker 2: get to the news.