WEBVTT - Overnights with Phil O'Neil - Wednesday 18th June

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<v Speaker 1>On two GB, four BC and network stations. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a Australia Overnight with Phil O'Neil.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, I woke up this afternoon towards the evening,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was my wife's time to cook dinner. So

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<v Speaker 2>I got up and I said, hello, honey, what's for dinner?

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<v Speaker 2>And she said a potato? And I immediately thought I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in trouble. When I was racking my brain thinking what

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<v Speaker 2>did I do wrong? Because I'm pretty sure when I

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<v Speaker 2>got home, you know, I made a coffee, cleaned the

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<v Speaker 2>cancel atter tray, so I know pretty much done all

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<v Speaker 2>of the functions that I have to do first thing

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning. And I couldn't at all figure out

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<v Speaker 2>what it was that I was in the doghouse for,

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<v Speaker 2>because I mean, who serves their husband of potato for dinner?

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<v Speaker 2>And you know where my mind immediately went. Did you

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<v Speaker 2>ever see that movie with Matt Damon and the Martian

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<v Speaker 2>where he was stuck on Mars and he didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>any food, so I grew potatoes out of his pood?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know that that was the first thing I

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<v Speaker 2>thought of. I thought, well, I must be in trouble,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's it. I've got a potato for dinner and

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<v Speaker 2>it came out of the air fryar and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>what's with this? Some potatohn and she said, oh, nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>You can put some lur pack on it if you want,

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<v Speaker 2>and some salt. Oh Christ, I really am in trouble now.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had the potato with the lur pack and

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<v Speaker 2>the salt, and can I tell you, as God is

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<v Speaker 2>my witness, it was bloody delicious. It was the best

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<v Speaker 2>dinner I had had in a month of Sundays. Can

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<v Speaker 2>I totally wreck amend to you if you've never done

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<v Speaker 2>it and you're hungry and you're you haven't got time.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been an air fryer, especially, whacked the potato in there,

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<v Speaker 2>Whack some lur pack on it, bit of salt. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a king's dinner. It was mag blood egnificent. Oh I

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<v Speaker 2>thought I'd shared that with you because honestly, the good

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<v Speaker 2>news is I'm not in the bad books. Hey what

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<v Speaker 2>about this? You know we do this every Wednesday morning.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Peeping Tom. And I've already got some suggestions. How

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<v Speaker 2>this works is you come up with somebody, a name

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<v Speaker 2>of somebody, an iconic TV character, preferably because they've always

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<v Speaker 2>got the best stories. Somebody from around the seventies, eighties

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<v Speaker 2>will take early nineties. We had Steve Wizard last week

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<v Speaker 2>and boy did we get some great stories out of him.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew McFarland before that, and also Tony Bonner and as

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned before, what started off originally as an idea

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<v Speaker 2>where it was a bit sort of like, let's have

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of fun. You find somebody that was on

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<v Speaker 2>a TV ad and then we'll have them on the yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>get a quick story. This has turned into our very

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<v Speaker 2>own radio version of Australian story because you get to

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<v Speaker 2>find out these amazing stories, the backstories about these people

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<v Speaker 2>that we've seen on the teller usually and we've loved

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<v Speaker 2>them for years and years, but when you hear their stories,

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<v Speaker 2>because when you've got longevity, you've got some great stories

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<v Speaker 2>to draw on. But this is where you come in.

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<v Speaker 2>You suggest someone that we track down and then by

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<v Speaker 2>Friday we should hopefully have that person on the phone.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been pretty good so far, I've got to admit,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when we found Gabriel Richard's The Pleasure Machine and

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<v Speaker 2>what a great story she had as well. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people have been asking for the woman in the

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<v Speaker 2>Sickham Rex ad, the ants pants ad. We're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to get her. She if we could have got her,

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<v Speaker 2>she would have been amazing because she's had a life,

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<v Speaker 2>extraordinary life, married two different princes. I mean, who marries Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>one prince is sure, two princes one of the chances

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<v Speaker 2>of that. And I'm sure she didn't find them on

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<v Speaker 2>Grinder or whatever the app is. So anyway, you suggest

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<v Speaker 2>someone and we'll try and find them. And the texts

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<v Speaker 2>are already coming through on this from Tony Hell Like Tony,

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<v Speaker 2>here's some suggestions for you, Effie aka Mary Cristis. She

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<v Speaker 2>would be great and she'd have some terrific stories and

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<v Speaker 2>I imagine she's probably still recognized in you know, her

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<v Speaker 2>day to day activities too. And somebody else said Vince Serrenti,

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<v Speaker 2>the comedian, I like it a lot rabina beard made

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<v Speaker 2>from par Moliv, the co par Moliv liquid commercials, remember

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<v Speaker 2>the old are you're soaking at it?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if she's still with us, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>the other issue. Of course, we need somebody that is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, still with us. So suggest now if you

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<v Speaker 2>could the text number zero four six, zero eight seven

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<v Speaker 2>three eight seven three. Otherwise you can call one three

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<v Speaker 2>one eight seven three. It'd be great to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>you and on the text on the email rather overnight's

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<v Speaker 2>at two GB. Who are we going to find this week?

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<v Speaker 2>I'll always look forward to seeing what kind of suggestions

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<v Speaker 2>that come through. Pete and Lithgo said, how about john Wood?

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<v Speaker 2>John Wood used to live around the corner from me

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<v Speaker 2>when I was working in Sydney on two SM in

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<v Speaker 2>the eighties and I would live back in those days

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<v Speaker 2>in Neutrabay in Sydney, and he lived just around the

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<v Speaker 2>corner and I'd see him walking up the street and

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<v Speaker 2>I always used to stick my hat out the window

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<v Speaker 2>and go, oh, Quincy. And I could tell it Annoyd

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<v Speaker 2>in because he looked at me like, yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 2>on TV, but I was not the doctor from the

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<v Speaker 2>TV show Quincy. And eventually interviewed him one day and

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<v Speaker 2>I said, look, you know, I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 2>know this, but I'm the guy that lived around the

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<v Speaker 2>corner from you. I used to stick my hat out

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<v Speaker 2>of the window whenever I saw you and go why Quincy,

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<v Speaker 2>and he saw what was at you. We had a

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<v Speaker 2>good laugh about it. But that was brilliant. So who

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<v Speaker 2>else you got, What about Mulder or Scully? You know what,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not impossible, David Dukovney, is not impossible. I like

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<v Speaker 2>the cut of your jib. Whoever sent that one through,

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<v Speaker 2>please keep your suggestions coming through zero four six to

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<v Speaker 2>zero eight seven three eight seven three or one three

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<v Speaker 2>one eight seven three on the phone. Here's the other

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<v Speaker 2>thing I want to talk to you about, and I

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<v Speaker 2>want your suggestions about this too. Anthony Alberizi, he had

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<v Speaker 2>the chance, and it's not through any fault of his own.

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<v Speaker 2>He did have the chance to try and catch up

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<v Speaker 2>with Donald Trump at the G seven and he was bumped.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason why is because something's going down this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump currently meeting with his national security team in

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<v Speaker 2>the situation room. He's doing a bit of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>guess what I'm up to kind of thing. But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to guess what he's up to because it

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<v Speaker 2>scares the pants out of me. But he's up to something,

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<v Speaker 2>and whatever it is that he's up to, I think

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<v Speaker 2>has to do with the Israel Iran conflict, and will

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<v Speaker 2>bring you that throughout the morning, strap in folks. But

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<v Speaker 2>to Anthony Albernezi, he wanted to put forward the case

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<v Speaker 2>for Australia with the wards most powerful leader, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was looking forward to it. There's no doubt

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<v Speaker 2>in my mind this was his big moment and it

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<v Speaker 2>would be right. You've just been re elected as the

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<v Speaker 2>prime minister in a landslide. You've just met up with

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<v Speaker 2>the Canadian Prime minister and he's given you a big

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<v Speaker 2>cowboy hat. So you've got you know, you've got the hat,

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<v Speaker 2>and I guarantee you he's going to wear that hat

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<v Speaker 2>when he met Trump. He would have done for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>he would have won the ten worn the ten gallon

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<v Speaker 2>stetson hat and sort of walked out and done the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the John Jarrett like we suggested, he does

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<v Speaker 2>the guy fro him but Wolf Creek. He walks out,

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<v Speaker 2>he's got the big ten gallon hat on and he's

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<v Speaker 2>playing the hard man to Trump. Shakes Trump's hand and

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<v Speaker 2>goes like the guy from Wolf Creek. He goes. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>immediately Trump is on the back foot. You know who's

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<v Speaker 2>the daddy. Now it didn't happen because he was left

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<v Speaker 2>high and dry. So now our poor prime minister is

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<v Speaker 2>in the situation where he's desperate and dateless. He's been

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<v Speaker 2>brushed by the most powerful man in the world. Now

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<v Speaker 2>he's got to go and seek advice from Greg Norman

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<v Speaker 2>as to what to do next. And I want to

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<v Speaker 2>ask you this because here's the thing. And if you've

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<v Speaker 2>ever been desperate, you've got the stank of desperation and

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<v Speaker 2>it's all over you and people can smell it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when you are desperate, people can tell you're desperate. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a feeling that I bore prime ministers in

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<v Speaker 2>that situation. Now he's got the hat, he's got the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Wolf Creek laugh, got nobody to share it with.

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<v Speaker 2>What would you advise Anthony Albanezi to do at this

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<v Speaker 2>particular stage. Would you continue to keep trying to ring

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<v Speaker 2>to see if you can get Trump on the phone

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<v Speaker 2>or would you ghost him? Would you go? Now, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to have to play hard to get here

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm really not there. I mean, it's through no

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<v Speaker 2>fault on my own. I'm not in any position of

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<v Speaker 2>power at all. Now I no longer have the hand.

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<v Speaker 2>What would you suggest, because he's going to go and

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<v Speaker 2>have a chat with Greg Norman, my suggestion would be,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's I mean, god, this is you know you're

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<v Speaker 2>playing a different game to anything like way out at

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<v Speaker 2>my pay grade, my suggestion would be just you know, like,

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<v Speaker 2>don't ring him, don't try and call, don't even send

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<v Speaker 2>an email or even like one of his pictures on

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<v Speaker 2>Facebook would be my advice. What would you do? What

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<v Speaker 2>would you advise to beat to elbow if you could

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<v Speaker 2>give him any one? Three one eight seven three look

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<v Speaker 2>forward to hearing from him. I'm fill O Neil, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's good to have you here with us. Nineteen minutes

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<v Speaker 2>past midnight, Hallo, Jason, how are you? Jason sent me

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<v Speaker 2>an email earlier on today and said, Phil, I do

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<v Speaker 2>hope that you can continue giving the feel like temperatures.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what's so funny? I thought, if anything

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<v Speaker 2>that I do is going to annoy the hell out

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<v Speaker 2>of you the most, it would be the well the

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<v Speaker 2>temperature is, but it feels like. And I thought I

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<v Speaker 2>could do it for a week, and I really thought

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<v Speaker 2>I was stretching our friendship by continuing to do it

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<v Speaker 2>up to Friday. I thought, that's some stage here someone's

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<v Speaker 2>going to send me a text and go, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't stop doing that, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>listen to you anymore. And trust me, I get a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of those texts and emails, but none on this one.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's terrific. I appreciate that because Jason also said

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<v Speaker 2>you can. He's given me some suggestions on where I

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<v Speaker 2>can find the feels like temperature. So you know, as

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<v Speaker 2>I say, it's your show, I'm merely a caretake it

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<v Speaker 2>for this. But if you want me to continue to

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<v Speaker 2>giving you the feels like temperature, well you know I'm

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely going to live for that. One three one eight

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<v Speaker 2>seven three. What advice would you give Albow right now

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<v Speaker 2>while he's got this desperate and date, let's feel about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And on the text, who are we going to suggest?

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<v Speaker 2>And you can ring through to who can we suggest

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<v Speaker 2>to get as our next Peeping Tom for Friday. I

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<v Speaker 2>love this segment and I think this segment is going

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<v Speaker 2>to go for a long time. Speaking of which, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to port the Rick Milne Antique segment on once

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<v Speaker 2>a month for a little while because we feel that

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<v Speaker 2>it needs a bit of a you know, refresh, and

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<v Speaker 2>we would like to try it on a once a

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<v Speaker 2>month basis. So based on that, you can also give

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<v Speaker 2>me your feedback on that Overnights at two GB dot

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<v Speaker 2>com text zero four six zero eight seven three eight

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<v Speaker 2>seven three once a month, which gives us more chance

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<v Speaker 2>to find some really quality stuff with Rick milntwo. But

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<v Speaker 2>please give me some advice and some thoughts on that

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<v Speaker 2>if you can. Albo got jilted at the ball. The

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<v Speaker 2>only thing left is to turn into a pumpkin, says Joe. Phil.

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<v Speaker 2>What about Kylie Male?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Kylie Male? Who?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I always confuse her with their feed and I

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<v Speaker 2>know that who she is, but I don't know who

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<v Speaker 2>played it. Could you tell me that, Phil? Maybe another

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<v Speaker 2>candidate would be Leo Sayer. Thank you Tony who sent that.

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<v Speaker 2>We did have Leosa on for our behind the song

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<v Speaker 2>segment and he was fantastic and he's got some shows

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<v Speaker 2>coming up to Thanks Tony for that text. As for

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Albanezi, what he should stop doing is talking or

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<v Speaker 2>taking Kevin right to the to anywhere with his US

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<v Speaker 2>ambassador role. Take Joe Hockey's advice or take up golf.

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<v Speaker 2>Another advice for Albow. Come home, tidy at your room,

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<v Speaker 2>put your lego away, brush your teeth and go to

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<v Speaker 2>bed and leave for the rest of the stuff to

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<v Speaker 2>the adults. Thank you, Rod for sending that to me

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<v Speaker 2>to Here's one that came in from Scott Phil. What

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<v Speaker 2>Albo should do is just resign and call the election

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<v Speaker 2>for Australia's favor. Here's a really good peeping tom's suggestion

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<v Speaker 2>that so far is leading the race. And it came

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<v Speaker 2>in from Tommy who said, as a peeping tom, what

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<v Speaker 2>about Steve Bisley who played Goose. Of course you said,

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<v Speaker 2>you went on to elaborate the best friend of Mel

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<v Speaker 2>Gibson and Mad Max. Tommy, don't need to tell us

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<v Speaker 2>who Goose is. I saw they make a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>those replica motorbikes that he had, and I saw somebody

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<v Speaker 2>that had the replica of the motorbike, and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>because it has all the paraphernalia on it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the highway patrol thing, all of the badges on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently there was a lot of merchandise that went with

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<v Speaker 2>the Mad Max franchise, and he would be brilliant. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>certainly on the top of my list right now, Tommy.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Steve Bill's busily. If we can get him on,

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<v Speaker 2>that would be terrific. Let's get to the phone morning Ian.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you mate, Phil? No, No, that's all right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you've got to be politically correct. Now, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a person to in.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm enjoying your show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>I think of paving Tom, what about Tom Burns.

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<v Speaker 2>And Man from Yeah, Man from Snow River.

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<v Speaker 4>And a great impersonal singer of Frank Sinatra.

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<v Speaker 3>Very very good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. I remember he did that too, he was

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<v Speaker 2>Did he sing any of.

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<v Speaker 4>The acting in the clubs?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Very good.

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<v Speaker 2>Did he sing any of the songs himself? I think

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<v Speaker 2>he may have done. He may have picked up a.

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<v Speaker 3>Couple I think he is. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in fact, Dale just confer that too. Although I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to be honest, just getting back to an I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a great suggestion. I've always thought you and

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<v Speaker 2>I around the same age, and so we can appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>I always thought that crooners were the laziest of the singers,

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<v Speaker 2>because I mean, they're really just talking their way through it.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, if you can put on a tuxedo,

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<v Speaker 2>you can be a crooner in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 4>True, but sometimes they can't hit those low notes and

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<v Speaker 4>those high notes too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you're doing it properly, like Michael Boublay, But

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<v Speaker 2>if you're just simply passing yourself off. You know. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I could be a crooner and you could be

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<v Speaker 2>a crooner quite easily. Whack us into a time and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm serious, whack us into a tuxedo, take us up

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<v Speaker 2>to the Rudy hilarisl Sunday night and and it's all

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<v Speaker 2>in the you know, you do the snapping of the

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<v Speaker 2>fingers and you know, like come fly with me. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that's not a great one. Let me think of another one,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but you know where I'm coming from. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>right right, mate, nice I told you, thanks so much?

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<v Speaker 2>One three, one, eight, seven threes the phone number like seeve,

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<v Speaker 2>how have you been made?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>It was like, while we're on this topic of different

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<v Speaker 5>people that put on to get their stories, who was

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<v Speaker 5>the guy behind Tom the Furter?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's yeah Mitchell Mitchell, Mark Mitchell. It was, yeah, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>would you like to get him on a couple of days?

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<v Speaker 5>I think that would be that would be a gift.

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<v Speaker 5>I think there was a story to tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you ever see the episode of Extras with Ricky

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<v Speaker 2>Gervais where he was on a sitcom? He hated it

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<v Speaker 2>and his catchphrase was you're having a laugh? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>remember that?

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<v Speaker 5>But it sounds like the sort of thing Ricky gerves.

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<v Speaker 6>Probably.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, then the thing is what the whole point of

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<v Speaker 2>it was When you're on a show where you've got

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<v Speaker 2>a catchphrase, and catchphrases are what makes the show. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>are you being said that's yes, I'm free, all that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff, but it becomes the bane of their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>So it would be good to get him on and

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<v Speaker 2>see how often and everywhere he goes. Whether people go

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of.

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<v Speaker 7>Days and I thought, yeah, as.

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<v Speaker 2>Though they were the first person ever to say.

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<v Speaker 5>It to them, you know, yeah, that's right, and he's

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<v Speaker 5>never heard it. He hasn't heard it for the one

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<v Speaker 5>thousand and millions time or something. Yeah, I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I can see that, but just unders but easy.

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<v Speaker 8>Look, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Think the only realistic way that he might actually able

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<v Speaker 5>to get any kind of hearing from the American administration

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<v Speaker 5>is to actually be serious about things like defense, because

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I mean, a lot of their they talk

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<v Speaker 5>about America. First of all, they they want they're allies

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<v Speaker 5>to step up to the plate, to use a sporting expression,

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<v Speaker 5>an American sporting expression, the way that they are in

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<v Speaker 5>terms of defense. Now, I think the pall was something

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<v Speaker 5>like three and a half percent. Yep, something along that line.

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<v Speaker 5>What's that about forty billion? Did I hear that figure

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<v Speaker 5>for us? Apparently for defense?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I would say at least that'd be the

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<v Speaker 2>stony at.

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<v Speaker 7>Least around that.

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<v Speaker 5>So if mister albin Easy actually wants to get mister

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<v Speaker 5>Trump's attention apart from tweeting that on truth Social where

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<v Speaker 5>he tends to live, I think that I think he

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<v Speaker 5>needs to make some serious commitment there because not only

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<v Speaker 5>is it finally would would they be more willing to

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<v Speaker 5>at least give us a hearing, but it would be

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<v Speaker 5>our interests. But I'm not even sure where the mister

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<v Speaker 5>albineasy be thinking of our interests right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know this is what everyone has been on

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<v Speaker 2>this show. I know for a fact, has been banging

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<v Speaker 2>on about, well what about defense? And you know Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump is saying, as the good Professor himself says, I

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<v Speaker 2>like to quote his quote, that there are no guarantees

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<v Speaker 2>and Professor Flint is going to talk about this again

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<v Speaker 2>later on this morning. And also the fact that you

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<v Speaker 2>know the Chinese got there, have their warships going in

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<v Speaker 2>or their boats going into the Pacific coming closer and

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<v Speaker 2>closer to us. So the professor says, there are no guarantees.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what Donald Trump essentially is saying to We

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<v Speaker 2>keep banging on over and over and over about defense,

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<v Speaker 2>but the message doesn't seem to be getting through.

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<v Speaker 5>I wonder if there is a cynicism from some and

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<v Speaker 5>I mean some that sort of says, well, defense usually

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<v Speaker 5>says every other day of the week or every other

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<v Speaker 5>time of the year where there's some kind of review, Look,

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<v Speaker 5>we'd like to have more money, and it's always a

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<v Speaker 5>money thing with defense. But I think that there is

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<v Speaker 5>actually real need now to deal with that. I mean, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>that we've got the August thing, but that's for years

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<v Speaker 5>down the track. I mean, you can see it now.

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<v Speaker 5>Will at detentions to the middle least. You're right to

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<v Speaker 5>mention China and Taiwan. That's a ConFlat that's going to

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<v Speaker 5>go on, that's going to kick off at some point.

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<v Speaker 5>We don't know when. And I think that by us

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<v Speaker 5>not spending something in that region that we just talked

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<v Speaker 5>about in reference to defense, by not doing that, we're

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<v Speaker 5>shooting ourselves, to use an expression in the foot, and

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think that's a great idea good stock you.

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<v Speaker 2>Film, touch you SEV. Thank you so much. One three

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<v Speaker 2>one eight seven threes a phone number. Text us on

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<v Speaker 2>zero four six zero eight seven three eight seven three

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<v Speaker 2>and on the email overnight it's at two GB dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me get to a couple of emails. David sent one.

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<v Speaker 2>Kylie Mole was played by mary Anne Faye. Well, thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>that's good to get onto that. And Russell, how are you? Phil?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying so hard to stay a listener, but you're

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<v Speaker 2>killing me. I switched stations when you gibbered on the

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<v Speaker 2>last one you worked on, and then I turned back

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<v Speaker 2>when the music was on. Now you're killing this program.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk less and let the listeners talk more. You're annoying.

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<v Speaker 2>The antique segment was one of the best monthly is ridiculous,

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<v Speaker 2>says Russell. Well that's fine, Russell, But the thing was

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<v Speaker 2>we were getting like an average of two to three

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<v Speaker 2>calls per show, where you know, essentially we were Rick

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<v Speaker 2>and I were you know, shooting to shoot as you do,

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<v Speaker 2>hoping that people would bring in, and you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>the periods between calls were stretching longer and longer, and

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<v Speaker 2>we thought, well, hang on a minute, you know, are

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<v Speaker 2>people shooting into here the teks or are they hearing

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<v Speaker 2>us just feel? So that's where we were, aut Russell.

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<v Speaker 2>There was just a lot of feel going on there.

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<v Speaker 2>So we thought, okay, for the benefit of the listeners,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't we just give it a bit of a rest,

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<v Speaker 2>bring it back in monthly and see how it goes,

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<v Speaker 2>and then ask for your advice. I mean, I appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>your advice. Perhaps that was my own stupid, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my own stupid idea of asking you for your advice,

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<v Speaker 2>because Russell, you gave me not just an inch but

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<v Speaker 2>an entire block. But thank you for your feedback anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I think. But yeah, so that's where we're at with

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<v Speaker 2>that at the moment. But also you can keep your

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<v Speaker 2>feedback coming through, but be nice. I mean, christ Russell,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a human being, you know, and I could spend

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<v Speaker 2>all night here, you know, from midnight till five thirty

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning, trying to entertain you there all day

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<v Speaker 2>working on guests, and I'm bloody tired. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when you send emails like that which are really rude, mate,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not necessary, you know. I mean, imagine if I

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<v Speaker 2>sent you an email or a brewd text like that

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<v Speaker 2>because you served me in a shop rather than say, mate,

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<v Speaker 2>your service was a bit rubbish. I go, mate, you're

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<v Speaker 2>just killing the barista industry. Char I'm coming from. Imagine

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<v Speaker 2>your kid was me working at a radio station and

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<v Speaker 2>you sent an email like that somebody does to your kid.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not nice, is it? Really?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just be nice for a change, shall we? Twenty

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<v Speaker 2>nine to one, Hello Vicky, how are you? Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much for your text? This one that came in

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<v Speaker 2>from Chris Albow, like a growing number of Western leaders,

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<v Speaker 2>is not interested in meeting him. This is obviously talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Donald Trump here. Trump has enough imphsis to deal with.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, Chris, Hey, Chris, I'll get onto your call

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<v Speaker 2>a bit later. We didn't get you last night, but

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that. How about everybody's favorite guitarist singer from

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<v Speaker 2>the eighties who turned up randomly on TV in the afternoon,

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<v Speaker 2>Trevor Filewood. I don't know Trevor Filewood and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>ring a bell, Paul, but I appreciate that. Mary said,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe albowshe have gone to Washington and met with Trump

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<v Speaker 2>months ago, like the other world leaders have already done.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead of piggybacking on the G seven. I expect he

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<v Speaker 2>relieve not to be seeing Trump in Canada, says Mary.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's one suggestion Adie's heart throb Alex demetriartists would be good.

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<v Speaker 2>Wonder what he's been up to for the Peeping Tom segment?

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<v Speaker 2>What about Donald Trump and and Cad Albow who were interviewing.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Shane Peter at Lithgo says, how about you

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<v Speaker 2>get doctor Harry on Albow? Should ask Scott Morrison if

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<v Speaker 2>he'd be kind enough to negotiate. He managed to negotiate

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<v Speaker 2>Orcas said Kerry, and Vicky also likes the idea of

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<v Speaker 2>once a month with the show that we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>do with Rick Milne. Please keep your suggestions coming through,

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<v Speaker 2>but also please be nice, as I'm saying to you. Michelle,

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<v Speaker 2>who just texted me, are you serious? Are you going

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<v Speaker 2>to waste another hour take talking this cramp about stupid

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<v Speaker 2>Peeping Tom? Looks like the ABC again, so we'll just

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<v Speaker 2>hang on a sec. Good. Michelle's turned the radio off.

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<v Speaker 2>Not to be confused with this. Michelle, how are you.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh that's set up? Didn't give it up by the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Good? Now you've got some footy tips for us, and

0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:04.480
<v Speaker 2>people want to hear it because a lot of people

0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:08.040
<v Speaker 2>are very happy Michelle with your footy tips from last week.

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<v Speaker 2>And everybody is pretty much on an agreement here that

0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:12.439
<v Speaker 2>you are on a winner.

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<v Speaker 9>Go Ah, jeez, that's good tonight. But I must say

0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:21.680
<v Speaker 9>there's one little person that doesn't seem to agree. Your

0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:24.359
<v Speaker 9>little friend Gary, Why does he always have a go

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<v Speaker 9>at me? Last night? He said that I was wrong

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<v Speaker 9>about dead Hasler being a manly boy. Right, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 9>So I'm going to correct him if you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Mind, please, by all means.

0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:39.800
<v Speaker 9>This is he obviously thinks I have no idea about NRL.

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<v Speaker 9>I may not, but I know a thing or two

0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:45.960
<v Speaker 9>about Manly. Anyway, I'm going to get it off my chair.

0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:48.680
<v Speaker 2>No, please, by all means. It seems that everybody wants

0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:51.239
<v Speaker 2>to vent a little spleen at the moment. So if

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:53.800
<v Speaker 2>you wish to do that, by all means, you have

0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:56.399
<v Speaker 2>the floor. What else would you like to say to

0:23:56.480 --> 0:23:57.560
<v Speaker 2>defend yourself.

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<v Speaker 9>To say I said Haslar was a manly boy. In fact,

0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:06.520
<v Speaker 9>he had his best years at Manly, Thanks Gary, and

0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:10.679
<v Speaker 9>he won Premier shups while he was playing for Manly.

0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:14.080
<v Speaker 9>I'm happy for Gary to correct me, but I was

0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:17.760
<v Speaker 9>correct on this front, and yes, Gary is correct. He

0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:21.320
<v Speaker 9>started his career at Penris, but he spent most of

0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:25.320
<v Speaker 9>his playing career with Manly Seagulls, and he won premierships

0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:30.880
<v Speaker 9>Inning nineteen eighty seven and nineteen ninety six. So Gary,

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<v Speaker 9>tell me I'm wrong.

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:35.600
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he will, Maybe you'll bring you up. Are you

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:37.840
<v Speaker 2>sure of your facts on? I believe you, as you know.

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:38.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm on your side.

0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:46.760
<v Speaker 9>And he's also coached Manly. I don't think he coached Penris.

0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Right, Okay, well I'm going to I'd back you up

0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:49.800
<v Speaker 2>all the way as you know, as you know, unless

0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:51.800
<v Speaker 2>you've got it wrong, which case when you're not here

0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:53.880
<v Speaker 2>and I'm talking to him, I'll go, yeah, you're right mate.

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:58.159
<v Speaker 9>Hey, your allegiance should be sneak. So next time he

0:24:58.160 --> 0:25:01.000
<v Speaker 9>has a guarup there, you can say.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I would have backed you up, but I

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:05.439
<v Speaker 2>know nothing about NRL. Otherwise I would have said that.

0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:07.639
<v Speaker 10>I would have said, maybe you're learning.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you think I might at midnight till five

0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:12.080
<v Speaker 2>in the morning so I can learn how to do

0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:14.240
<v Speaker 2>it properly, so one day I can be a contender.

0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:15.320
<v Speaker 2>During the daytime.

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 9>This is the training wheel.

0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:20.200
<v Speaker 2>These are the training hours everybody. This is where people

0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:22.399
<v Speaker 2>go to learn. I don't put you on midnight to

0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:24.080
<v Speaker 2>five thirty am if you're any good?

0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:26.840
<v Speaker 9>Well, how come Dale's been there for so long?

0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Again, Let's go through the tips and see what we've

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<v Speaker 2>got here. Okay, Tigers versus Raiders. Everybody, get your pens

0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:39.639
<v Speaker 2>out because this is an important round this week. Tigers

0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 2>versus Raiders.

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<v Speaker 9>Who we got Yes, here, we got our raiders.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, got that? Okay, although they're not playing at home,

0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 2>but it doesn't matter. Warriors versus Panthers.

0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:55.000
<v Speaker 9>You know they're playing the Tigers day Why did you?

0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:57.560
<v Speaker 9>Why did you question the Raiders there? Anyway? Are we

0:25:57.680 --> 0:25:58.960
<v Speaker 9>going to Warriors this time?

0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Don't listen to anything I say. You know that because

0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 2>I just you know if I say anything, it's wrong.

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Dolphins versus Knights.

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<v Speaker 9>Dolphins, I was waiting for you to step in anything.

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:15.080
<v Speaker 11>I just told you I'm not going to I know,

0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:16.200
<v Speaker 11>I know you.

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:18.159
<v Speaker 9>Don't want anything to do with it. Only and the

0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 9>only time you'll take credit is if.

0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:22.119
<v Speaker 2>We get a good on that second? Why are you

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 2>why are you having a go at me now?

0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:29.200
<v Speaker 9>I'm cranky I've got a cold. That's my excuse.

0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 2>All right, Well I forgot where we're at. Dolphins versus

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Night Yeah, Dolphins, okay, rabbitized versus Storm, Storm, Bronchos versus Sharks, Bronchos,

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Roosters versus Cowboys, and the last time I'm going to

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:53.359
<v Speaker 2>get you to the Eels and Titans.

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<v Speaker 9>What do you reckon?

0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 2>No, don't ask me.

0:26:57.760 --> 0:27:00.439
<v Speaker 9>We were talking about this just before. Let's say, if

0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:01.240
<v Speaker 9>you've learned anything.

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Who eels?

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:05.680
<v Speaker 9>Oh my gosh, it's.

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm putting Titans down. Don't cough at me. Hey, MICHELLELS,

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 2>we love you, Thank you. We'll talk to you next week.

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Have a good weekend. And that seems silly, Well we'll

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:21.200
<v Speaker 2>talk before you but then, but yeah, it seems weird

0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:24.160
<v Speaker 2>offering somebody the opportunity to have a great weekend on Wednesday.

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:26.280
<v Speaker 2>But here we are, all right, coming up to nineteen

0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:28.920
<v Speaker 2>minutes to one. Keep those suggestions coming through. We've got

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:31.200
<v Speaker 2>to make an idea. We've got to have a guess

0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:32.720
<v Speaker 2>in just a moment. We've got to make a decision

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:35.520
<v Speaker 2>on this week's Peeping Tom. Enjoying your texts that are

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 2>coming through. Please keep them coming. This way as well.

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 2>Zero four six zero eight seven three eight seven three

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:44.200
<v Speaker 2>call me on one three one eight seven three. Russell

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 2>just sent me a nice email, so we're friends again.

0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:49.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna bit cranky today. I don't know why. Maybe

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 2>it's because I only had a potato for dinner. It's

0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:53.639
<v Speaker 2>just difficult when you get out. I'm not God. I

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 2>want to be a complainer, but I'm going to just

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 2>vince clean here. It's just difficult when you get out

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:01.159
<v Speaker 2>of bed first thing in the afternoon, at three o'clock,

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:03.159
<v Speaker 2>at the crack of three, and you know you've been

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:05.240
<v Speaker 2>working all night. You open your emails and it's just

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 2>full of this vitriol. You know, I don't like your show.

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:11.160
<v Speaker 2>It's well, just come in here and do it yourself.

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Then you know you stay awake all night. Here's I

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 2>told you I was cranky. Here's what we know. Israel

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:21.480
<v Speaker 2>and Ryan have ramped up their missile attacks as the

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:24.400
<v Speaker 2>world waits to see what action US President Donald Trump

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 2>will take. After leaving the G seven summit in Canada

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 2>a day early because of the intensifying hostilities in the

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Middle East. As you know, he was due to catch

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 2>up with Elbow didn't catch up with Elbow. So where

0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Albow goes from here, I don't know. And if you

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 2>have any ideas, any suggestions, any advice you'd give Elbow

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 2>as a mate, what would you tell him? Don't try,

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:47.200
<v Speaker 2>don't keep calling. It's like when someone's broken up with someone,

0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 2>isn't it just Or even when you've just met someone

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 2>in the bar and you know you've got their number

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.080
<v Speaker 2>and you want to keep bringing them like that that

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 2>scene from the movie singles, just don't keep bringing mate,

0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:00.080
<v Speaker 2>Just let it go. You know he'll call you. If

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 2>he's going to call you, he'll call you back anyway.

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:05.000
<v Speaker 2>So Donald Trump is having a meeting with these National

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:08.840
<v Speaker 2>security team right now in the situation room. I've got

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:10.720
<v Speaker 2>all the tellies on, so I'll keep an eye out

0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 2>on that. I'll let you know if anything happens. Residents

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 2>in Tayrm recording gridlock trying to flee the city. Is

0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 2>the global anxiety centered on whether the US would broker

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 2>and enter the conflict or enter the fray by helping

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 2>Israel destroy Iran's deeply buried nuclear enrichment facility in fourd Oh,

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 2>which only the US bunker buster bombs can reach. So

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 2>they sent the uss nimits out in that direction. Look,

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's going on, but we'll keep you updated.

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 2>We'll have a chat with Michael Paki because he's our

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 2>federal politics opera editor from Channel nine. He's in Canada

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:50.040
<v Speaker 2>following the Prime Minister's Canadian trip. So we'll have a

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 2>chat to Michael next hour and I'll say to him, Look,

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 2>what do you think is going on? Do you think

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 2>that Yeah, there's something more than meat. Si, there's a

0:29:57.040 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 2>very an iconic fire, I guess you will put you

0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 2>could say of Donald Trump leaving Calgary to return home

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 2>earlier than planned. He's getting on Air Force one. He's

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 2>a very deep blue sky in the background, so it's

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:16.240
<v Speaker 2>getting to dusk. The plane is looking quite blue. He's

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:20.160
<v Speaker 2>sort of highlighted by the cameras and also by the

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 2>light inside the plane. And I'm gonna be honest with

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 2>it's quite a haunting photo. If you know it signifies anything,

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:28.640
<v Speaker 2>it's certainly that you know it's the photo that we

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 2>will go Oh, okay, Iran and Israel have wrapped up

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 2>the missile attacks and everyone's just waiting to see what's

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:36.880
<v Speaker 2>going to happen now. So we will keep you updated

0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 2>on that throughout the morning. I few whattech's coming through.

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Keep your suggestions for beeping Tom. I'd like to know

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 2>who we're going to get this week, but at this

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 2>stage Steve Bisley will be the person that we're going

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:49.080
<v Speaker 2>to catch up with. Hello, Gary, how are you, buddy?

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 12>Yes, good morning. I'm just gonna reply Paul Michelle. Look,

0:30:56.480 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 12>I'm a rugby league rugby and applyad uh what you

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 12>might call. I played for the Navy, I played for

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 12>the Combined Services. I've made all around the world, and

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 12>I knew the late Tommy Rodonicus. He was he was

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 12>an ex Air Force apprentice.

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 3>You know that, did ye?

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that, but I do know Tommy. I

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 2>mean I know what Tommy.

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 12>Yeah.

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 12>They used to call the Western suburbs the five Rows

0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 12>and mainly Seagles, the Silver Titles, et cetera. Mm hmm,

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 12>I think John Singleton, you put a lot of money

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 12>into a new town and uh.

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 2>So, where did Michelle go wrong?

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 12>Then, Gary, Well, she's only repeating what I said. I

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 12>just said. Yeah, I said, what's his name is?

0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 3>Now?

0:31:55.680 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 12>If you remember correctly, I said bloke who was Uh

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 12>he's a former school teacher and he played. He's in

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 12>norgural football at Penriff.

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 2>Right, did you did you want to did you want

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 2>to tell? Michelle?

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 12>Look, I don't get involved in people who've low intellect,

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 12>Thank you very much.

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Look, hang on a second, Michelle, Michelle.

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 9>Hello, what makes me low intellect? Because I know a

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 9>little bit about Manly. Unbelievable you are. Yesterday he said

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 9>that I was incorrect. He didn't play at Manly. All

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 9>I said was he was.

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 12>A manly way way where I said exactly, he started

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 12>these football at Penriff right. He's a former school teacher.

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 3>Do you know that?

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 9>Yes, that's Sampius and ben fordhen was his students.

0:32:56.720 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 12>Actually yeah, And I said in the past or I

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 12>knew Bobby Fulton too. He was on the h is

0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 12>a conscript come on with Sydney is the corporal and

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 12>him and a MAJORLD with the Asian for the change

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 12>were taken up and bring him back from Vietnam, et cetera.

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 9>Okay, I've never questioned that all I made. All I

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 9>said was I'm happy that Manly lost because jess Hazard

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:30.000
<v Speaker 9>was a good Manly man and I'm happy for the Tysons.

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 9>What was wrong with that statement?

0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:37.480
<v Speaker 12>Well, Jess Hasler. How many clubs has he coached?

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 3>Do you know that?

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 8>I don't care.

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, he went to the Bulldogs, so he won a

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 9>premierships for them too. Anyway, I don't want to argue

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 9>with you. I just don't.

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Know that's right. There's no arguments here.

0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 9>Is I don't want him to This is purely.

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 2>A new segment I've come up with called footy Chat.

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's a work in progress. Bear with me, folks.

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:07.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean down the track will have a more florally name,

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 2>but at the moment it's footy Chat.

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:13.880
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, no worries and Gary wants to be right all along.

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:18.440
<v Speaker 13>I've never questioned Gary's you sent to know so much

0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:21.720
<v Speaker 13>about But I just make that comment and you always

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 13>make me feel like I haven't said the right thing,

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 13>and I was you can't say correct and you're having

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:31.919
<v Speaker 13>a guard me because I'm a manly fan.

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 9>And actually a lot of people that live on the

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:38.080
<v Speaker 9>Northern Beaches aren't silver Tails anymore.

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 12>Are Paramotta because they came into the competition the year

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:45.400
<v Speaker 12>Osborne nineteen.

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:45.960
<v Speaker 3>Forty seven.

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Let him finish, and.

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 12>They wore the same colors as school I went to

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:55.759
<v Speaker 12>and see I was a rail estate blue and gold right.

0:34:57.239 --> 0:35:02.279
<v Speaker 12>Paramatta was originally called the Free Pickers, et cetera. Now

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:06.480
<v Speaker 12>tell me if I'm wrong here, but didn't North Sydney

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 12>and the Manly Sea Eagles Sydney they operate for two

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 12>years as the Northern Eagles, Michelle telling you you's wrong.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, but that wasn't their fault. That was the fault

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<v Speaker 9>of some gur in the NRL. It I'm just saying, yes,

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 9>so what that's what happened. And guess what. I was

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 9>born in nineteen seventy three and I've been following them

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 9>since nineteen seventy three and that was the year that

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 9>Manly won the premiership. Does that make me a non believer,

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:43.560
<v Speaker 9>a non fan because I wasn't there when they spend

0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 9>the club was established in nineteen forty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Gary, I forgot who signed them on at

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 2>the moment. Michelle's yeah, Gary.

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<v Speaker 12>Do you know anything about Dennis Tudy, Michelle.

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<v Speaker 9>Should? I? Is he's someone important? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's got you now, Michelle, I think you know. Okay.

0:36:08.160 --> 0:36:10.839
<v Speaker 2>In the starsh of the Great Footy Chat, which will

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:13.720
<v Speaker 2>be a regular segment, I've decided this where Gary wins.

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, Michellee got you there. You should have had

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Google up.

0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:19.839
<v Speaker 9>Is he the captain of some ship?

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 2>No, it's too late now, Michelle, you know, come back

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 2>next week with your Google facts name out of them.

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Great to talk to both of you. There you go,

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:38.759
<v Speaker 2>there's our first episode of Footy Chat. I love them both,

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 2>although I do think that Michelle probably should have had

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Google up. Seven minutes to one, I'm pill Owneel, although

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 2>you can call me Jerry Springer. According to some of

0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 2>the texts that came through with people arguing, well, it

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:51.720
<v Speaker 2>was a thing called footy Chat and it was spirited

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:54.520
<v Speaker 2>and I liked it. And Maureen said she just rang up.

0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 2>Say hello, hello, Maureen. Nice to hear from you. Let

0:36:57.280 --> 0:36:58.799
<v Speaker 2>me get to the text and I'll tell you where

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 2>we're going to for the our. Michael said, go Michelle.

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 2>Gary might be the one with the low intellect. Michelle

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:08.839
<v Speaker 2>needs a bib. She dribbles. There's another one, Marian says,

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:12.760
<v Speaker 2>get rid of that, annoying Michelle. She's got a horrible laugh. However,

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Sue is on Michelle's side and said, Gary's just a

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:20.719
<v Speaker 2>name dropper. I got another one here to Gaza. Thank you.

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 2>So much for your text. I really appreciate that. That's

0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:26.960
<v Speaker 2>very kind of you. Here's one from Roger. If I

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:29.800
<v Speaker 2>was Albow, I'd be doing trade and military deals with China.

0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:32.320
<v Speaker 2>If America doesn't want to be an ally, look elsewhere.

0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it would make Trump big albow for a minute.

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Roger says Trump is a real chicken though he has

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:41.359
<v Speaker 2>all the power but too afraid to exercise it. He's

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:43.800
<v Speaker 2>a taker. We all know that that means Trump always

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 2>chickens out. Thank you Roger for your text. However, this

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:49.400
<v Speaker 2>one from Mary advice to albow up the military spending

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:52.640
<v Speaker 2>and strengthen our alliance with the US. Swallow your pride.

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 2>We do not want to become an economic convoy of China.

0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 2>More suggestions for and I'm about to make a decision

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<v Speaker 2>for this week's Peeping Tom. What about Steady Eddie? He

0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:06.320
<v Speaker 2>would be really good? No name on that. I remember

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:09.359
<v Speaker 2>Steady Eddie. He was great? Wasn't he groundbreaking when it

0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:13.319
<v Speaker 2>came to comedians too, Phil says Tony, A few more

0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 2>suggestions for you. What about John Singleton on the show

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 2>or Jerry Harvey, Ori Enderly and their son brilliant And

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:23.919
<v Speaker 2>also says next time you're making a potato. Well I didn't,

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:26.400
<v Speaker 2>my wife did, but put some herbs on it. Brilliant

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 2>love that. Thank you. Don't forget Sarah Bora with some

0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 2>food later, Philers, anybody mentioned Hoagues who's been in the

0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:35.600
<v Speaker 2>news of late. I also vaguely remember an ad featuring

0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 2>pro Heart. He had something about a cleaning lady not

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:42.719
<v Speaker 2>being happy after he created the artwork. I remember that.

0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Didn't she have to come in with a mob? What

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 2>you want me to get the cleaning lady from the ad?

0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:49.960
<v Speaker 2>That could be good. Paul says, you must have between

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:53.600
<v Speaker 2>you and Dale some USA contacts. What about Erica Strada

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:57.920
<v Speaker 2>from Chips? But brilliant, that'll be good. Carl Barron, the

0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:00.480
<v Speaker 2>stand up comedian, is what somebody else said here too.

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:03.879
<v Speaker 2>A lot of text iming through, and I appreciate those. Sorry,

0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:06.840
<v Speaker 2>let's get to this. We are going to make a decision.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not going to do the antique show this week,

0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:12.880
<v Speaker 2>because what we were doing was it was getting to

0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 2>the stage where Rick and I were just going, Okay,

0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 2>you know that's a stamp. What color is it? Do

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:20.120
<v Speaker 2>you lick the back of it? And we thought, you know,

0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 2>it's I think that that segment is still good but

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:29.240
<v Speaker 2>needs arrest. It'll be back, it'll be monthly. That may change,

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 2>and yes, I can appreciate your feedback, but be nice.

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Here's who we're going to look for this week. Steve Bisley, Okay, Dale,

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Steve Bisley is a good one. He's still with us.

0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:41.200
<v Speaker 2>I just checked that he's got some great acting chops.

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<v Speaker 2>He was Goose in Mad Max. Betty's got some fantastic

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Mad Max stories. George Kennedy going back to that film,

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:52.200
<v Speaker 2>how iconic that was. And I wonder if he had

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:56.920
<v Speaker 2>any idea of how important that was that that film

0:39:57.040 --> 0:40:00.400
<v Speaker 2>was on the Australian cinem the landscape. So Steve Bisley, busily,

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:02.520
<v Speaker 2>I should say, we'll try and get him on Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get to the news.

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<v Speaker 1>On two, GB, four BC and network stations. This is

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<v Speaker 1>our Australia Overnight with Phil O'Neill.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, like, how are you so we've got to Wednesday morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Just got to find the feels like temperatures as well. Okay,

0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:43.280
<v Speaker 2>here we go in Brisbane. At the moment it's twelve degrees,

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 2>but it feels a heck of a lot colder than that.

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Currently feels like minus one. Really that's a lot colder

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 2>than one would expect. And what about in Sydney, let's

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 2>sort of look and see him. What so in Sydney

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:58.440
<v Speaker 2>at the moment we have nine degrees, but the feels

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:02.360
<v Speaker 2>like temperature actually feel like four degrees. Keep your feels

0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:05.919
<v Speaker 2>likes coming through as well. One three, one eight seven three.

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<v Speaker 2>Roger said, just a quick message with Michelle. I've given up,

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:15.360
<v Speaker 2>given up trying to correct her mistakes. I use Napoleon saying,

0:41:15.400 --> 0:41:18.400
<v Speaker 2>if never interrupt your enemy when he or she in

0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:21.719
<v Speaker 2>this case is making a mistake. Yes, but Michelle is

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:24.439
<v Speaker 2>one of our team, one of our Overnight family as

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:27.720
<v Speaker 2>his Gary, so we should all stick together. Here's another

0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:29.920
<v Speaker 2>one that came in from Sharon. I said, Phil, you

0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:32.799
<v Speaker 2>actually have more footy chat on your show than the

0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:37.200
<v Speaker 2>Continuous Call team. Another text that came in This is

0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:39.960
<v Speaker 2>about Mad Max two. It's a peeping tom, but we

0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:43.239
<v Speaker 2>have one for this week. How about Emil Minty who

0:41:43.280 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 2>played the little Boy? Was he the one that had

0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:49.680
<v Speaker 2>the boomerang that was really sharp boomerang? And I think

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:53.239
<v Speaker 2>from memory cut off what's his name, Ginjil's fingers. I

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:55.160
<v Speaker 2>could be wrong about that, but I think that may

0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:57.480
<v Speaker 2>have been him, but nonetheless going to Mad Max, we're

0:41:57.480 --> 0:41:59.640
<v Speaker 2>going to have Steve Bisley, which JJ said should be

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:03.640
<v Speaker 2>fantas Steve Bisley will be our Peeping Tom chat Friday

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:05.200
<v Speaker 2>morning if we can get hold of him, which I

0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:07.240
<v Speaker 2>hope we can, and then we can talk about Mad

0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 2>Max and all of the all of the merchandise that

0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 2>went with that, and what an incredible film, What a

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 2>great time for Australian cinema the mid seventies two and

0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:21.279
<v Speaker 2>you had Stone there was another fantastic film. So we'll

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:23.319
<v Speaker 2>have a chat with him about that if we can

0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:26.239
<v Speaker 2>get him on Friday morning. One three one eight seven

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<v Speaker 2>three is the phone number. Text number zero four six

0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:32.880
<v Speaker 2>zero eight seven three eight seven three. Email is overnights

0:42:32.880 --> 0:42:35.360
<v Speaker 2>at two GB dot com. So let's just reiterate that

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:39.000
<v Speaker 2>what we normally have in this hour, but we're giving

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:41.359
<v Speaker 2>it a rest. I'm going to do it monthly is

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Rick Milne's show, The Antique Show. I know it's been

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:46.239
<v Speaker 2>running for a while. We did find that we were

0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:49.200
<v Speaker 2>also getting to the stage where we were almost begging

0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:51.399
<v Speaker 2>for calls for people to ring, so we thought we'd

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:53.239
<v Speaker 2>give it a month. That way people can get this

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:56.640
<v Speaker 2>stuff together and rather than us just having to stretch

0:42:56.680 --> 0:42:59.120
<v Speaker 2>out between phone calls, because that's what it was becoming.

0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 2>And it's not through lack of interest. It's just that,

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:04.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, the whole point of that particular segment is

0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:07.319
<v Speaker 2>people ringing up and giving us their collectibles and things

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:09.799
<v Speaker 2>like that so that Rick can appraise them. But if

0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:12.520
<v Speaker 2>we didn't get any calls, then it was just basically

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:15.520
<v Speaker 2>him and I talking about things that you know, he'd found,

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:18.400
<v Speaker 2>and so we thought, well, you know, it wouldn't it

0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:20.640
<v Speaker 2>be better to have this once a month so we

0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:23.799
<v Speaker 2>can get to some really great stuff. However, if you

0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:26.480
<v Speaker 2>want to give me some feedback about that, you can

0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 2>on the email overnight's at two GB dot com, on

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:32.480
<v Speaker 2>the text zero four six zero eight seven three eight

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:35.720
<v Speaker 2>seven three on the phone one three one eight seven

0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:39.080
<v Speaker 2>three as well, because you know, maybe it's the wrong decision.

0:43:39.160 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we should have Rick one every week. I know

0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:43.880
<v Speaker 2>that people don't like things when they change. I know

0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 2>people like consistency, and I totally get that. And you know,

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 2>just in the in the attempt to make things, as

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:55.879
<v Speaker 2>you know, the best show that we possibly can for you,

0:43:56.160 --> 0:43:58.040
<v Speaker 2>that's what we were thinking. But you know, give me

0:43:58.040 --> 0:43:59.920
<v Speaker 2>some of the feedback if you want more than how

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:04.080
<v Speaker 2>to hear from you. So, Anthony Albanezi, he was given

0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:07.600
<v Speaker 2>his big opportunity to go and meet with the American

0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:12.320
<v Speaker 2>President Donald Trump. But Donald Trump is headed back from

0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 2>the G seven summit in Calgary. This was the response

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:19.359
<v Speaker 2>on that decision from both Richard Miles and Suzanne Lee.

0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:23.879
<v Speaker 1>This is essentially the American president needing to deal with

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:26.560
<v Speaker 1>what is obviously playing out in the world today.

0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:28.600
<v Speaker 10>We shouldn't be reading more into it than that.

0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:32.680
<v Speaker 14>It should not be left for Australia to just seek

0:44:32.840 --> 0:44:37.439
<v Speaker 14>meetings as important as this on the sidelines of an

0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:39.000
<v Speaker 14>international summit.

0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Although he didn't really have much choice, I think in

0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:45.720
<v Speaker 2>his defense. The update from America, as I mentioned before,

0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:48.759
<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump has headed back to the situation room at

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 2>the White House. What's going on there is anybody's guest.

0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:55.359
<v Speaker 2>I guess he says that he's seeking a real end

0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:59.120
<v Speaker 2>to this, although Donald Trump has also said he has

0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:04.120
<v Speaker 2>not reached out to Iran for peace talks. Pete haig

0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Seth has said that the Americans are going to defend

0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:09.040
<v Speaker 2>their assets. I presume he means by that their assets

0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:12.880
<v Speaker 2>in the region, and also Donald Trump has said don't

0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:15.239
<v Speaker 2>touch our troops, So what's going on there, I don't know.

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:17.600
<v Speaker 2>I also saw that a moment ago. They also flashed

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:19.800
<v Speaker 2>up in one of the news channels. They were talking

0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:23.360
<v Speaker 2>about the bunker buster, which I think might be something

0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 2>else that you know, may reoccur that particular narrative. But

0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:30.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm just keeping an eye on the TV's

0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:33.640
<v Speaker 2>got the CNN on, got the Fox News, got the

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Sky News, and I'll let you know things as they

0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:38.960
<v Speaker 2>happen throughout the morning, and maybe nothing will you know,

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:42.760
<v Speaker 2>touch Wood. I'm not sure that's actually would to be honest. Now.

0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 2>Michael Paki is Channel Mind's Federal politics editor. He has

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:49.040
<v Speaker 2>been on the trip on the tour with the Prime

0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:50.759
<v Speaker 2>Minister in Canada. We're going to talk to him in

0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 2>just a moment, and then a little bit later on

0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:56.480
<v Speaker 2>the Good Professor joins us. He's written another brilliant column,

0:45:56.600 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 2>as he always does with the Spectator. He's got this

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 2>week's political news. So we'll talk to him about the

0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 2>situation that we find ourselves in and in another completely

0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:07.719
<v Speaker 2>different direction. I don't know how you feel about body language,

0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:13.800
<v Speaker 2>but Yourna Jordana Borenstein is the communications and body language expert,

0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:18.040
<v Speaker 2>and she wants to talk about chronic overflapping. And that

0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:22.120
<v Speaker 2>is what you give away to somebody else when you

0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:25.360
<v Speaker 2>start waving your arms around, and when you talk and

0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:27.480
<v Speaker 2>you wave your arms around, you can give away some

0:46:27.640 --> 0:46:30.879
<v Speaker 2>vital clues in terms of body language about yourself, whether

0:46:30.960 --> 0:46:34.319
<v Speaker 2>or not you're being sincere or insincere. What to look

0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:36.799
<v Speaker 2>out for with that. We'll have a chat with her.

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 2>I always find that body language stuff really good, and

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:40.520
<v Speaker 2>also too, by the way, if you have a question

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:44.319
<v Speaker 2>for doctor Carl Kruziniski for tomorrow, text it through to me.

0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:47.479
<v Speaker 2>We've had some really good ones zero four six zero

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<v Speaker 2>eight seven three eight seven three. I had one that

0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:54.839
<v Speaker 2>came yesterday that was somebody who said, well, if you're

0:46:54.840 --> 0:46:58.120
<v Speaker 2>an atheist and you swear on the Bible, does that

0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:03.319
<v Speaker 2>mean that you can lie if you're an atheist. Well,

0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:05.879
<v Speaker 2>we'll find out what doctor Carl thinks about that when

0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:08.360
<v Speaker 2>we talk to him tomorrow morning. And there was also

0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:11.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people wanted to talk about alien hand syndrome,

0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:12.759
<v Speaker 2>so we'll get him on that too and have a

0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 2>bit of a chat with him and find out what

0:47:14.640 --> 0:47:17.000
<v Speaker 2>he thinks about that. Also coming up a little bit later,

0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:23.640
<v Speaker 2>on day Surgery, the Hospitals for Hearts for heart surgery.

0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Jane Griffith is the CEO of Day Hospitals Australia and

0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:30.719
<v Speaker 2>we'll talk about whether or not heart surgery day hospitals

0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:32.600
<v Speaker 2>are the way of the future. Sarah Bora is going

0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:35.040
<v Speaker 2>to do some cooking for us. Garth Davis and we'll

0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:37.080
<v Speaker 2>talk about this later too and get your calls on it.

0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Garth Davis is a real estate and property expert and

0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:44.120
<v Speaker 2>they're looking at getting overseas tradees. Are they the answer

0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:46.640
<v Speaker 2>to the housing crisis? And what they're doing is they're

0:47:46.680 --> 0:47:49.280
<v Speaker 2>getting trades I think mostly in primarily from New Zealand

0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:53.600
<v Speaker 2>and giving them ten grand to come and be a

0:47:53.640 --> 0:47:56.400
<v Speaker 2>trade in Australia. And so I want to know how you,

0:47:56.440 --> 0:47:58.839
<v Speaker 2>as a fellow trade think about this initiative. It's only

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:01.800
<v Speaker 2>happening in WA, but if they roll it out nationally,

0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:03.960
<v Speaker 2>what do you think about that idea? You can even

0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:05.920
<v Speaker 2>get in now if you're having an opinion about that. So,

0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:09.040
<v Speaker 2>and if you were an employer, would you hire an

0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:12.239
<v Speaker 2>overseas trade Peter Coury, can I tell you all about

0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:16.200
<v Speaker 2>these letters that are appearing in people's letterboxes which aren't

0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:18.799
<v Speaker 2>a fine. They look like a parking fine, but they're

0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:21.080
<v Speaker 2>just a slap on the wrist. What's the point of that.

0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:23.000
<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about that, and also a little bit later

0:48:23.280 --> 0:48:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Dr Benzala, Senior Lecturer in International Relations at Monash School

0:48:27.880 --> 0:48:30.960
<v Speaker 2>of Social Science, we're going to talk about the escalating

0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:34.319
<v Speaker 2>Israel Iran conflict, where I'm also led to believe that

0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:38.040
<v Speaker 2>the sirens are now willing in Tel Aviv. Will keep

0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:40.319
<v Speaker 2>you updated on that. Scott, you've been on hold for

0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 2>absolutely ages, mate, How are you not bad? Good buddy?

0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:48.880
<v Speaker 2>What's going on? What can I do for you?

0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:53.759
<v Speaker 6>Did you do the comparison between the Lulu's to Fill

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<v Speaker 6>with Love and the Vinyls the the Vinyls to Deal

0:48:58.920 --> 0:48:59.359
<v Speaker 6>with Love?

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know what the good song comparison. I didn't

0:49:03.480 --> 0:49:05.520
<v Speaker 2>know what. So the Vinyls did a version of To

0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Sir with Love as well?

0:49:06.760 --> 0:49:09.120
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they did a cover version.

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:11.120
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that. When did that happen?

0:49:12.200 --> 0:49:12.399
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:13.720
<v Speaker 6>Just a mate?

0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:14.520
<v Speaker 8>Right?

0:49:14.640 --> 0:49:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay? And so and the Lulu.

0:49:16.400 --> 0:49:21.200
<v Speaker 6>Version she actually nailed it, she really nailed it. It

0:49:21.239 --> 0:49:21.960
<v Speaker 6>was beautiful.

0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:24.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay. And do you know who else does a really

0:49:24.400 --> 0:49:27.359
<v Speaker 2>good version of To Sir with Love? Michael Stipe from

0:49:27.520 --> 0:49:31.560
<v Speaker 2>Ram it's really interesting. You have a listen to that too. Well,

0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:32.800
<v Speaker 2>I'll go and have a listen to that, Scott. I

0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:34.640
<v Speaker 2>appreciate you hanging on for as long as you did.

0:49:34.960 --> 0:49:38.759
<v Speaker 2>And we'll see. I'd like to be really interested to

0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:41.719
<v Speaker 2>see what the vinyl's version of to Sir with Love is.

0:49:41.880 --> 0:49:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Like I get Chris on the Wheels of Steel in

0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:47.840
<v Speaker 2>the studio next door to tell us what what it

0:49:47.880 --> 0:49:51.320
<v Speaker 2>sounds like. Matthew says, that's crap. I won't be listening

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:53.560
<v Speaker 2>till Rick's back on. He's got great stories and I

0:49:53.600 --> 0:49:55.319
<v Speaker 2>look forward to his segment. And I've been listening to

0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Nights for decades since Wheelshair, says Matthew. So he's not

0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:01.400
<v Speaker 2>happy that we're going to have but it's been a

0:50:01.440 --> 0:50:03.200
<v Speaker 2>fifty to fifty. A lot of other people have sent

0:50:03.239 --> 0:50:05.640
<v Speaker 2>in texts going, well, you know, I can see where

0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:09.920
<v Speaker 2>you went with Rick Mill. Maybe we'll make it fortnightly Matthew. Okay,

0:50:10.640 --> 0:50:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Michelle is a woman. And if ever a woman says

0:50:12.760 --> 0:50:14.839
<v Speaker 2>correct me and I'm wrong, don't fall for it, it

0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:18.440
<v Speaker 2>says Wayne and castle Hill, and yeah, be careful what

0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:20.960
<v Speaker 2>you say there, Wayne, You'll end up eating potatoes for dinner,

0:50:21.160 --> 0:50:23.520
<v Speaker 2>and also a question for doctor carl This is really good.

0:50:23.520 --> 0:50:27.160
<v Speaker 2>So where do flies go when it rains? It's a brilliant,

0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:30.200
<v Speaker 2>brilliant suggest and brilliant question. Maybe we'll give that to

0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:32.839
<v Speaker 2>him tomorrow too. If you have a question for doctor Carle,

0:50:32.920 --> 0:50:35.879
<v Speaker 2>text it through to us zero four six zero eight

0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:38.920
<v Speaker 2>seven three eight seven three come up to eighteen minutes

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<v Speaker 2>past one. Believe we'll be going to Michael Packy in

0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:44.880
<v Speaker 2>just a moment, the Channel nine Federal politics editor who's

0:50:44.880 --> 0:50:47.800
<v Speaker 2>been on the Prime Minister's Canadian trip, and we'll find

0:50:47.800 --> 0:50:50.760
<v Speaker 2>out how the premise is feeling and what the update

0:50:50.920 --> 0:50:54.919
<v Speaker 2>is from the G seven next twenty pass one. Here's

0:50:54.920 --> 0:50:57.520
<v Speaker 2>an interesting text that came in from Rowan. Hello Rowan,

0:50:57.520 --> 0:51:00.440
<v Speaker 2>how are you they feel? A Nathan Kosh is an

0:51:00.440 --> 0:51:03.719
<v Speaker 2>airline pilot with Quantus who also does and he's a

0:51:03.800 --> 0:51:07.160
<v Speaker 2>veterinarian too, and he does a great show on Simon

0:51:07.200 --> 0:51:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Owen on three AW and could also be a good

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:13.520
<v Speaker 2>replacement for the weeks when Rick Mills on. Okay, I'll

0:51:13.600 --> 0:51:15.480
<v Speaker 2>check that out with Dale. I don't know if Dale's

0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:18.640
<v Speaker 2>heard of Nathan Kosh. No, we don't. We don't know,

0:51:18.719 --> 0:51:20.840
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know if it's Cosh or Cock, but

0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:24.360
<v Speaker 2>anyway would probably go with Kosh just to be politically correct.

0:51:24.520 --> 0:51:28.319
<v Speaker 2>But okay, I'll tell you what, Ron, Let's look into that.

0:51:28.440 --> 0:51:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Dale's giving me the thumbs up, So we're going to

0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:32.520
<v Speaker 2>look into that two. And you know that might also

0:51:32.600 --> 0:51:37.360
<v Speaker 2>be alternative number one for the weeks when Rick Miln's

0:51:37.400 --> 0:51:39.359
<v Speaker 2>not on. It's nice to try and fresh up your

0:51:39.400 --> 0:51:42.160
<v Speaker 2>overnight shows too, as much as we possibly can. Donald

0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:46.120
<v Speaker 2>Trump has angrily but vaguely addressed his departure from the

0:51:46.239 --> 0:51:50.000
<v Speaker 2>g seventh summit, where he left Anthony Albanezi and other

0:51:50.120 --> 0:51:53.000
<v Speaker 2>world leaders high and dry. I think Albow would perhaps

0:51:53.040 --> 0:51:55.040
<v Speaker 2>be the one who was most disappointed by that, because

0:51:55.080 --> 0:51:57.040
<v Speaker 2>he was ready to have the meeting. So let's go

0:51:57.080 --> 0:52:00.799
<v Speaker 2>to Michael Packy, who's in Calgary in Canada. Morning to you, mate,

0:52:00.800 --> 0:52:04.239
<v Speaker 2>thanks for your time. So Albo, it looked like he

0:52:04.320 --> 0:52:06.240
<v Speaker 2>was going to get the meeting. Now it's not happening.

0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:08.040
<v Speaker 2>How has his mood been.

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<v Speaker 11>Look, he's just arrived here at the summit center and

0:52:13.360 --> 0:52:16.000
<v Speaker 11>we're expecting to speak to him probably in the next

0:52:16.080 --> 0:52:18.200
<v Speaker 11>couple of hours. He's got a few meetings with other

0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:22.200
<v Speaker 11>world leaders. But the way that his office is spinning.

0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:22.560
<v Speaker 3>It is.

0:52:22.560 --> 0:52:26.560
<v Speaker 11>They're basically saying, well, they understand that Donald Trump had

0:52:26.560 --> 0:52:29.239
<v Speaker 11>to leave the summit early because he's dealing with the

0:52:29.360 --> 0:52:33.640
<v Speaker 11>escalating crisis in the Middle East. But I'd say that privately,

0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:36.640
<v Speaker 11>they're probably not too happy because they were expecting this

0:52:36.800 --> 0:52:41.960
<v Speaker 11>meeting to happen sometime today and there were a number

0:52:42.000 --> 0:52:44.680
<v Speaker 11>of issues that did need to be discussed, and it

0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:47.279
<v Speaker 11>would also be the first time that Anthony Abernezi and

0:52:47.320 --> 0:52:50.560
<v Speaker 11>Donald Trump would have met face to face. But the

0:52:50.640 --> 0:52:53.200
<v Speaker 11>thing is, phil is the way that it all happened,

0:52:53.239 --> 0:52:58.640
<v Speaker 11>I think is quite interesting. So essentially, Anthony Albanezy held

0:52:58.840 --> 0:53:02.400
<v Speaker 11>a news conference late yesterday after a series of meetings

0:53:02.400 --> 0:53:04.760
<v Speaker 11>with a couple of world leaders that he had to

0:53:05.000 --> 0:53:07.680
<v Speaker 11>talk about those meetings and also to be asked about

0:53:07.760 --> 0:53:11.080
<v Speaker 11>what he planned to talk to Donald Trump about, how

0:53:11.080 --> 0:53:14.560
<v Speaker 11>he planned to address issues like a trade and obviously

0:53:14.640 --> 0:53:18.279
<v Speaker 11>the Orcust defense packed, and he went into more or

0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:21.040
<v Speaker 11>less what he's thinking was in how he would handle

0:53:21.600 --> 0:53:25.759
<v Speaker 11>Donald Trump in some of these negotiations. But literally, as

0:53:25.760 --> 0:53:29.560
<v Speaker 11>soon as that press conference finished and Anthony Albernezi walked

0:53:29.600 --> 0:53:34.520
<v Speaker 11>out the door, a statement popped up from the Americans

0:53:34.560 --> 0:53:36.960
<v Speaker 11>saying that Donald Trump was going to be leaving early

0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:39.680
<v Speaker 11>and has canceled all of his meetings that he had

0:53:39.719 --> 0:53:42.640
<v Speaker 11>planned for the next twenty four hours or so. So

0:53:43.080 --> 0:53:46.680
<v Speaker 11>essentially the Australians and the Prime Minister were not given

0:53:46.719 --> 0:53:51.359
<v Speaker 11>a heads up that Donald Trump was planning to leave

0:53:51.600 --> 0:53:53.920
<v Speaker 11>the summit and that the meeting wouldn't go ahead.

0:53:54.719 --> 0:53:56.960
<v Speaker 2>So he was going to have a sideline meeting with

0:53:57.120 --> 0:54:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Trump and they now locked it in. It seemed like

0:54:01.920 --> 0:54:05.280
<v Speaker 2>this was really an opportunity that Alba was really hoping for,

0:54:05.640 --> 0:54:09.480
<v Speaker 2>and we were asking what people should think that Alba

0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:12.680
<v Speaker 2>should do next, and I guess that would be definitely

0:54:12.719 --> 0:54:14.520
<v Speaker 2>something that you know, he would have to try and

0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:17.360
<v Speaker 2>figure out. Now whether or not, you know, you continue

0:54:17.400 --> 0:54:20.200
<v Speaker 2>to try and hound Donald Trump to get this meeting,

0:54:20.520 --> 0:54:23.200
<v Speaker 2>or whether it's just best to sit back and just

0:54:23.320 --> 0:54:25.359
<v Speaker 2>try and wait and see what happens and to see

0:54:25.400 --> 0:54:26.440
<v Speaker 2>whether they're approached.

0:54:27.400 --> 0:54:29.160
<v Speaker 11>Well, look, I think he needs to try and get

0:54:29.200 --> 0:54:32.520
<v Speaker 11>a meeting because I think there's some very clear issues

0:54:32.560 --> 0:54:37.840
<v Speaker 11>that need to be discussed between Australia and the United States.

0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:42.000
<v Speaker 11>What I can tell you is that Anthony Abernezi does

0:54:42.120 --> 0:54:46.360
<v Speaker 11>believe he may and obviously they're touching their language pretty

0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:50.200
<v Speaker 11>carefully that he may have an opportunity to meet with

0:54:50.239 --> 0:54:53.879
<v Speaker 11>Donald Trump in September, because Anthony Oberezi will be going

0:54:53.880 --> 0:54:57.600
<v Speaker 11>to the United States to attend the United Nations Security

0:54:57.640 --> 0:55:01.400
<v Speaker 11>Council and he's attending that meeting New York and believes

0:55:01.400 --> 0:55:04.280
<v Speaker 11>that after he finishes attending the meeting that un meeting,

0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:07.400
<v Speaker 11>he'll be able to travel to Washington and potentially have

0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:10.759
<v Speaker 11>this one on one with Donald Trump. So that's what

0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:14.360
<v Speaker 11>I think that Anthony Albanezi is hoping for. And the

0:55:14.440 --> 0:55:17.920
<v Speaker 11>interesting thing is yesterday when they were talking, we were

0:55:18.040 --> 0:55:21.120
<v Speaker 11>asking him about what sort of preparation have you done

0:55:21.200 --> 0:55:23.160
<v Speaker 11>for this meeting. One of the things that he told

0:55:23.239 --> 0:55:26.080
<v Speaker 11>us and I thought it was quite interesting. He says

0:55:26.120 --> 0:55:30.480
<v Speaker 11>that he had spoken to Greg Norman, the Australian golfing grade,

0:55:30.760 --> 0:55:33.920
<v Speaker 11>about how, you know, how he should handle Donald Trump.

0:55:33.960 --> 0:55:37.719
<v Speaker 11>Because Greg Norman and Donald Trump are mates. So it's

0:55:37.719 --> 0:55:41.560
<v Speaker 11>interesting the people that they're speaking to to try and

0:55:41.719 --> 0:55:45.239
<v Speaker 11>get this access to Donald Trump. But despite the fact

0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:48.080
<v Speaker 11>that they're speaking to people like Greg Norman, you know,

0:55:48.160 --> 0:55:51.440
<v Speaker 11>people like Scott Morrison, Joe Hockey, who are also really

0:55:51.600 --> 0:55:55.239
<v Speaker 11>relatively close to the president. You know, they're speaking to

0:55:55.239 --> 0:55:57.359
<v Speaker 11>all these people, but they don't need that. They don't

0:55:57.520 --> 0:56:02.040
<v Speaker 11>seem to be able to land meeting despite what they

0:56:02.080 --> 0:56:02.799
<v Speaker 11>do have.

0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:06.480
<v Speaker 2>They made it aware that what was on the agenda

0:56:06.680 --> 0:56:08.560
<v Speaker 2>when they were going to have the chat with Trump.

0:56:08.600 --> 0:56:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Did they make people aware of what it was hoping

0:56:11.040 --> 0:56:11.560
<v Speaker 2>to discuss.

0:56:11.719 --> 0:56:14.719
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, Look, I think that Donald Trump knew what more

0:56:14.800 --> 0:56:19.759
<v Speaker 11>or less Anthony Alberesi was going to be discussing. And

0:56:19.800 --> 0:56:22.879
<v Speaker 11>Anthony Alberzi also made it pretty clear that he didn't

0:56:22.880 --> 0:56:25.480
<v Speaker 11>want to have a conversation with Donald Trump which dealt

0:56:25.480 --> 0:56:29.640
<v Speaker 11>with a whole range of issues. Anthony Alberzi says, it's

0:56:29.640 --> 0:56:32.759
<v Speaker 11>best that when you go into these sorts of conversations

0:56:32.760 --> 0:56:35.839
<v Speaker 11>with world leaders, you have a clear idea about what

0:56:35.880 --> 0:56:41.000
<v Speaker 11>you're going to talk about. So so Donald Trump knew

0:56:41.239 --> 0:56:45.320
<v Speaker 11>that the two issues that Anthony Albernesi would be discussing

0:56:45.320 --> 0:56:47.920
<v Speaker 11>with the President was going to be trade and getting

0:56:48.000 --> 0:56:51.919
<v Speaker 11>rid of these tariffs on Australian products. And of course

0:56:51.960 --> 0:56:54.920
<v Speaker 11>other countries have also been hit with the tariffs by

0:56:54.960 --> 0:56:57.880
<v Speaker 11>the US. But you know, you've got Australian steel and

0:56:57.920 --> 0:57:02.000
<v Speaker 11>you've got Australian aluminium that's exported to the US, which

0:57:02.040 --> 0:57:06.120
<v Speaker 11>is facing tariffs of fifty percent, so I mean the

0:57:06.200 --> 0:57:08.879
<v Speaker 11>government is trying to either reduce those tariffs or take

0:57:08.920 --> 0:57:14.080
<v Speaker 11>them off altogether. So that was the first major point

0:57:14.120 --> 0:57:17.120
<v Speaker 11>of conversation that was going to be discussed with the President.

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:19.840
<v Speaker 11>The other thing is this August Defense Pact, because like,

0:57:20.160 --> 0:57:24.520
<v Speaker 11>there is some suggestion now that potentially the Americans aren't

0:57:24.520 --> 0:57:28.840
<v Speaker 11>as interested in forming this alliance between Australia, the US,

0:57:28.880 --> 0:57:33.400
<v Speaker 11>and the U K to build nuclear powered submarines and

0:57:33.480 --> 0:57:38.040
<v Speaker 11>increase defense capability more generally in our region. It seems

0:57:38.080 --> 0:57:42.640
<v Speaker 11>that the Americans just don't seem the interest in the

0:57:42.680 --> 0:57:47.720
<v Speaker 11>Defense Pack seems to be wavering. So essentially Anthony Albernezi

0:57:47.880 --> 0:57:52.400
<v Speaker 11>was trying to seek reassurances from the President that America

0:57:52.600 --> 0:57:56.200
<v Speaker 11>is still committed to the Aucust Pack. On the surface,

0:57:56.600 --> 0:57:59.160
<v Speaker 11>it appears that they are, but I think that there

0:57:59.240 --> 0:58:02.200
<v Speaker 11>is some concern and that potentially they are starting to

0:58:02.280 --> 0:58:06.200
<v Speaker 11>waiver given the billions of dollars that are at stake

0:58:06.520 --> 0:58:07.160
<v Speaker 11>with this deal.

0:58:08.080 --> 0:58:10.959
<v Speaker 2>And Anthony Albanesi not the only one who has left

0:58:10.960 --> 0:58:13.600
<v Speaker 2>in the lurch. There were other planned conferences with other

0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:15.200
<v Speaker 2>world leaders. Who else missed out?

0:58:15.800 --> 0:58:24.520
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, well, the Ukrainian President vladimit Zelenski. He's spoken now

0:58:24.640 --> 0:58:27.600
<v Speaker 11>to Donald Trump on a number of occasions, so the

0:58:27.640 --> 0:58:29.560
<v Speaker 11>fact that he missed out is probably not as big

0:58:29.560 --> 0:58:33.680
<v Speaker 11>a deal. The Indian Prime Minister Norendramodi he's missed out

0:58:33.720 --> 0:58:36.080
<v Speaker 11>as well. I think he was also meant to be

0:58:36.120 --> 0:58:39.400
<v Speaker 11>speaking to the Koreans. There was a meeting with them

0:58:39.440 --> 0:58:41.920
<v Speaker 11>that had been scheduled, which has now been canceled. So

0:58:42.200 --> 0:58:46.000
<v Speaker 11>there were a few other world leaders that Donald Trump

0:58:46.160 --> 0:58:48.520
<v Speaker 11>was meant to be speaking to, But clearly for us,

0:58:48.880 --> 0:58:51.560
<v Speaker 11>the meeting between Albanesi and Trump was going to be

0:58:51.680 --> 0:58:55.520
<v Speaker 11>key because it is the first time that these two

0:58:55.680 --> 0:58:59.360
<v Speaker 11>men would have met face to face. Albanesi is only

0:58:59.400 --> 0:59:02.760
<v Speaker 11>spoken to Donald Trump by phone on three occasions, but

0:59:02.800 --> 0:59:07.360
<v Speaker 11>they've never met face to face. So given the scale

0:59:07.400 --> 0:59:09.160
<v Speaker 11>of some of the issues that are at hand that

0:59:09.240 --> 0:59:12.280
<v Speaker 11>do need to be discussed, you probably do need to

0:59:12.320 --> 0:59:15.160
<v Speaker 11>have a leader to lead a meeting where they're sitting

0:59:15.240 --> 0:59:19.320
<v Speaker 11>down and thrashing these ideas out, you know, face to face,

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<v Speaker 11>rather than over the phone. So I think that Anthony

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<v Speaker 11>Albinezi will be sweating on a meeting happening in September.

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<v Speaker 2>Two things One, Emmanuel Macron, the President of France, was

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<v Speaker 2>the one who said that Donald Trump has left the

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<v Speaker 2>G seven summit to go back to Washington. Why was

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<v Speaker 2>it up to Macron to make this statement or did

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<v Speaker 2>you step up?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, look, I think on that case you probably just

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<v Speaker 11>stepped up to actually have to explain it. I know

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<v Speaker 11>that as Trump was leaving, you know, there was general

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<v Speaker 11>remarks that he's saying that I've got you know, there's

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<v Speaker 11>there's too much going on in the United States, and

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<v Speaker 11>with obviously the escalating conflict between Israel and Iran that

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<v Speaker 11>needs to be dealt with. My understanding is that once

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<v Speaker 11>Trump did get back to the US, he convened a

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<v Speaker 11>meeting of the National Security Committee, which is a high

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<v Speaker 11>powered grouping of defense and other officials, to discuss, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>what is going on in Iran giving these constant missile strikes.

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<v Speaker 3>But look, to a.

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<v Speaker 11>Certain extent, I suppose you can't also discount that a

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<v Speaker 11>lot of it is better by the US and by

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<v Speaker 11>the President. We've got to keep in mind, Phil that

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<v Speaker 11>a few weeks ago, when Donald Trump was being asked

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<v Speaker 11>to whether or not he would even attend the G seven,

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<v Speaker 11>he was wavering and saying, oh, look, I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 11>if I really want to go to the G seven

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<v Speaker 11>basically because he thought that he was going to be

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<v Speaker 11>ambushed on certain issues by the other world leaders. But

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<v Speaker 11>then in the end he decided to come here. So

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<v Speaker 11>he made a grand entrance on Sunday night and states

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<v Speaker 11>for most of yesterday, and then obviously decides to make

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<v Speaker 11>the grand exit yesterday. So I don't know if a

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<v Speaker 11>lot of it is also a bit of show in

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<v Speaker 11>making these entrances and exit Saturday summits. He's obviously not

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<v Speaker 11>a fan of them because he doesn't want to sign

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<v Speaker 11>on to what they call the communicates. This is what

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<v Speaker 11>they've all agreed to after the talks. There's certain things

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<v Speaker 11>that he doesn't agree with, and he obviously doesn't want

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<v Speaker 11>to be signing on to documents that he doesn't really

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<v Speaker 11>agree with in terms of issues like have how to

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<v Speaker 11>handle the situation with Israel and Iran, the situation in Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 11>He may not necessarily agree with other world leaders, and

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<v Speaker 11>he doesn't want to sign on to any document which

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<v Speaker 11>says that he does right now.

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<v Speaker 2>And Trump also went on to say that he's not

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<v Speaker 2>going back for a ceasefire. It's bigger than that, So

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<v Speaker 2>stay tuned, which is at odds with what his White

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<v Speaker 2>House Press secretary and Caroline leave It had to say

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<v Speaker 2>as well, I guess we'll just have to wait and

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<v Speaker 2>see in the next few few hours. Nice to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you, Michael, Thank you so much. No problem's going you, Phiel,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, Michael Packy there Ken Calgary in Canada. And

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<v Speaker 2>of course he is the Channel nine correspondent International news correspondent,

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<v Speaker 2>just letting us know what's going on there with Albow

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<v Speaker 2>and poor Albow not having the opportunity to catch up

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<v Speaker 2>with Donald Trump. And as I mentioned before on the

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<v Speaker 2>phone one three one eight seven three, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>think that Albow should do next? Do you think that

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<v Speaker 2>he should keep pursuing it? I mean it's in his

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<v Speaker 2>best interest to try and keep pursuing it, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>And in Australia's interest, and obviously to keep pursuing the

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<v Speaker 2>issue with orcas, to keep pursuing the interest that the

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<v Speaker 2>story of the submarines, whether we're going to get our

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<v Speaker 2>submarines or we're going to get our money back. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot that Albo has to discuss on behalf

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<v Speaker 2>of Australia. But do you just keep continuing to try

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<v Speaker 2>and get that conversation and try and get that meeting. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not the only one, as we mentioned, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Indian Prime Minister also didn't get his meeting. Vladimir

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<v Speaker 2>Zelenski from the Ukraine didn't get his meeting either, the

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<v Speaker 2>other people that missed out. But if you were able

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<v Speaker 2>to advise Anthony Albanezi, what advice would you give him

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<v Speaker 2>one three, one eight seven three on the phone or

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<v Speaker 2>on the text zero four six zero eight seven three

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<v Speaker 2>eight seven three. And also, you know, is there anybody

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<v Speaker 2>else maybe apart from Greg Norman, that you think that

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<v Speaker 2>Albow can get to try and be his messenger? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Greg Norman is a great cat because they

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he and Trump can talk about golf, so

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<v Speaker 2>they've got common ground there. But you've got Joe Hockey

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<v Speaker 2>as well. I mean, you know, nobody's going to say

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin right, but you've got Joe Hockey there. You've got

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<v Speaker 2>you know, It'scott Morrison there. Who's in the mix? Who

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<v Speaker 2>else do you think would be good to be in

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<v Speaker 2>the mix on this? What's the next bit of advice

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<v Speaker 2>you would give Anthony Albanezi going forward? One three, one

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<v Speaker 2>eight seven three or on the text zero four six

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<v Speaker 2>zero eight seven three eight seven three twenty three minutes

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<v Speaker 2>to two. So I was asking who we could get

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<v Speaker 2>Albo to, you know, try and help Albo out with

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<v Speaker 2>his conversations with Donald Trump, and Keith said, what about

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<v Speaker 2>Stormy Daniels on the text? Well, why not? That's creative.

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<v Speaker 2>Why can't they build subs in South Australia. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>text that came through. I think the best they can

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<v Speaker 2>do is possibly build somewhere between three and five submarines

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere by about the year twenty thirty. I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that they have the construction ability to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I could be wrong. By all means, if you

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<v Speaker 2>know the answer to that, you can give me a

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<v Speaker 2>definitive answer. Please give me a ring one three one

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<v Speaker 2>eight seven three. Sue said, Albo and Wang haven't really

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<v Speaker 2>helped Australia by not defending Israel. Tugs wants to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about some ride share stuff too. Please, by all means,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to dispel some myths, Tugs, give us

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<v Speaker 2>a call. Michael said, I went to a few private

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<v Speaker 2>groups and something big is going to happen, something quite prominent.

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<v Speaker 2>He said he found that out when he was on

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<v Speaker 2>the groups online. Margaret says in Queensland, can you bring

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<v Speaker 2>back Rick at least every fortnight? Well, you know again

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<v Speaker 2>everything's open for discussion. It's your show, so by all means,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Elbow's coming back to Australia with his tail

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<v Speaker 2>between his legs. Somebody else said on the text when

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<v Speaker 2>is Anthony Albanezi coming to China? Was another text that

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<v Speaker 2>came through, and a couple of other ideas that are

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<v Speaker 2>coming through as well on one three one eight seven three,

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<v Speaker 2>including Craig Redcliff. He said, you know the antiques bloke

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<v Speaker 2>love mate, maybe keep it weakly, surely there's enough material

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<v Speaker 2>to supply content. Well that in therein lies the rub

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<v Speaker 2>was the issue that we had that we were struggling

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<v Speaker 2>to get the callers towards the end, which is why

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<v Speaker 2>we thought we would rest the segment and bring it

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<v Speaker 2>back monthly. But we could do it fortnightly too. If

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<v Speaker 2>you like Mornic John in the rumor, how are you mate?

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<v Speaker 2>What have you got for us?

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<v Speaker 3>They had just close your eyes.

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<v Speaker 12>Fine, we've solved the problem.

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<v Speaker 6>World News.

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<v Speaker 5>Elbow in bite Donald to pay the best Manly sweatoned

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<v Speaker 5>and matched him up with Payne long as a bride baite.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh lovely. Okay, so a little bit of a sort

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, because he likes a bit of reality TV.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they kill kill ten birds with one spot.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, you know it's a it's a it's an idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Good to talk to you there, John from Naruma one

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<v Speaker 2>three one eight seven three. If you would like to

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<v Speaker 2>give us a text on the phone, yeah, one three

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<v Speaker 2>one seven three on the phone on the text zero

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<v Speaker 2>four six zero eight seven three eight seven three. We

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<v Speaker 2>had a chat with our next guest, Jordana, the communications

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<v Speaker 2>and body language expert, a couple of weeks ago, and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people gave us some good feedback on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Seems that everybody's really interested in the secrets that we

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<v Speaker 2>give away when we have a look at somebody else's

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<v Speaker 2>body language or our own body language and don't realize

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing it. So this week let's talk about chronic

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<v Speaker 2>over flapping, which Jordana, good morning to you, has a

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<v Speaker 2>lot to do with people and the way they move

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<v Speaker 2>their arms and they gesticulate, which I think I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of a gesticulator too. It's like I'm playing

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<v Speaker 2>sort of you know, an air organ or something like that.

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<v Speaker 14>So you're in one of the two most popular categories.

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<v Speaker 14>We tend to be overflaped or we tend to be underflappers.

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<v Speaker 14>The problem with overflapping is that we have a lot

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<v Speaker 14>of uninternal movement when we're speaking, which means a lot

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<v Speaker 14>of the focus of our message.

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<v Speaker 10>People are distracted by seeing that.

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<v Speaker 14>Unintentional movement with our hands, Like I liken it to

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<v Speaker 14>fill the words when we're talking. So if we're trying

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<v Speaker 14>to rush through because we feel like all the eyes

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<v Speaker 14>are on us, will say like, but I don't mean

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<v Speaker 14>it's just because we really want to get our message across.

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<v Speaker 14>But we feel pressures so fast and we're not thinking.

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<v Speaker 14>And it's the same thing when we're using our hands

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<v Speaker 14>and we're flucking them around.

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<v Speaker 10>It's very distracting.

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<v Speaker 2>I find I do this when I'm searching for words.

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<v Speaker 2>When I know exactly where I'm going with my stream

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<v Speaker 2>of consciousness, I don't do it as much.

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<v Speaker 14>Oh well, that's so interesting because there was actually research

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<v Speaker 14>by a professor of psychology at the University of Chicago.

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<v Speaker 14>Her name is Susan golden Meadow, and she gesturing while

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<v Speaker 14>we're speaking actually does light in the cognode, and when

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<v Speaker 14>we're young, we actually naturally integrate gesture and speech, and

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<v Speaker 14>our hands really do emphasize, sometimes contradict our spoken words,

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<v Speaker 14>but they also do play a big role in forming

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<v Speaker 14>our ideas. So I think you're flapping when you're trying

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<v Speaker 14>to come up with your ideas and your words is

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<v Speaker 14>actually part of physical body trying to come in to

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<v Speaker 14>actually get you to the point where you want to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I'm flapping while extrapolating.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, you are doing so many unusual things at once.

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<v Speaker 14>You're flapping while you're trying to get to the message.

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<v Speaker 14>And then I wonder, when you get to the message,

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<v Speaker 14>do you stop flapping?

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely, I put my hands away and leave them by

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<v Speaker 2>my side. I wonder if it's possible to talk with

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<v Speaker 2>holding your hands on the side, and I'm doing this

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<v Speaker 2>while I'm saying this right now, whether or not it

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<v Speaker 2>changes your thought process, and it hasn't seemed to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, by taking out the flapping here, I find

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm now more focused on the conversation.

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<v Speaker 10>You are not focused on a conversation but as the person.

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<v Speaker 14>And on the other side, your tonality has dropped and

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<v Speaker 14>you've gone more monotone in the way that you actually

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<v Speaker 14>shared that message. So our expression is very natural to us.

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<v Speaker 14>We normally use our hands, so to take them away

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<v Speaker 14>and not have could audibly hear the change in your

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<v Speaker 14>pitch when you did that.

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<v Speaker 10>And have you heard of Vanessa van Edwards No?

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't.

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<v Speaker 14>Oh so she's a specialist in science based people skills,

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<v Speaker 14>and she analyzed more than one thousand hours of TEDx

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<v Speaker 14>talks or ted talks, and she wanted to work out

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<v Speaker 14>what go viral and others don't.

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<v Speaker 10>And so her team.

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<v Speaker 14>Studied all of these variables and the one differentiator they

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<v Speaker 14>found was gestures. So they found that from this particular

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<v Speaker 14>period of time, the most viewed TED talks had an

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<v Speaker 14>average of four hundred and sixty five gestures in eighteen minutes,

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<v Speaker 14>and the least viewed ones had an average of two

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<v Speaker 14>hundred and seventy two gestures.

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<v Speaker 10>So we really they help us bring our expression to

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<v Speaker 10>life life.

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<v Speaker 14>They help us find our words, and it also helps

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<v Speaker 14>our message land in a much more impactful way because

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<v Speaker 14>we trust gestures.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me hit you with this scenario. What about if

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<v Speaker 2>someone's really deceptive and they were using their hands as

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<v Speaker 2>a smoke screen to deceive you from the words they're saying.

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<v Speaker 14>They would be steps ahead because normally we would use

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<v Speaker 14>our hands less if we're trying to be deceptive. So

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<v Speaker 14>if you've got someone who understands and then would use

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<v Speaker 14>their hands.

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<v Speaker 10>I would say that it would be quite forced movement.

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<v Speaker 14>You wouldn't have that natural flare and that natural expression

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<v Speaker 14>when we're really coming from our heart and from a

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<v Speaker 14>place of passion.

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<v Speaker 2>When you see politicians usually making a speech, they do

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<v Speaker 2>over emphasize with their hands, and I often feel that

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<v Speaker 2>that is a little bit contrived.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, they do quite intentional stuff. So like they'll do

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<v Speaker 14>future framing. So future framing is where you get your

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<v Speaker 14>hand in a certain movement and you move it forward

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<v Speaker 14>when you say a certain policy or you say a

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<v Speaker 14>certain idea, and so you're literally taking your audience on

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<v Speaker 14>a journey with you, and your hand gesture is the vision.

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<v Speaker 14>So it's like we're going to do this great thing,

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<v Speaker 14>We're going to spend this amount of money. And future

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<v Speaker 14>framing is a technique that is actually used a lot

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<v Speaker 14>with politicians when they're taking you with them, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>visually on the.

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<v Speaker 10>Journey as well.

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<v Speaker 14>Because we use our hands as anchors it's another way

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<v Speaker 14>to capture our sensory elements. And the more of our

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<v Speaker 14>you know, sensory elements we engage, the more engaged we are.

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<v Speaker 2>How about if someone's being like a magician, your words

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<v Speaker 2>are saying one thing, but your hands are actually taking

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<v Speaker 2>your conversation away from the words.

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<v Speaker 10>So a bit like magic one hundred percent or vice versa.

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<v Speaker 14>In magic, we're either using our words and focusing on

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<v Speaker 14>the story, the mind elements, the linguistics, we're distracting from

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<v Speaker 14>what we're doing with our hands, or we're using our

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<v Speaker 14>hands in a certain way that creates an illusion so

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<v Speaker 14>that you're focusing on the hands and you can't see

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<v Speaker 14>what's happening in other areas. But the code in magic

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<v Speaker 14>is you can't tell anyone how a magic strick is

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<v Speaker 14>done unless they want to be a magician themselves. So

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<v Speaker 14>I think I've said enough unless you want to change

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<v Speaker 14>your career.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to just throw in a name here because

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<v Speaker 2>I know you like it when I named I did

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<v Speaker 2>an interview with David Copperfield and he stood in the

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<v Speaker 2>corner dressed completely in black, and I found out afterwards

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<v Speaker 2>it's because he's quite small in stature and he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>want people to realize how small he is in stature

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<v Speaker 2>because he wants to come across with the illusion of

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<v Speaker 2>being grand.

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<v Speaker 12>Wow.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh my gosh. I had no idea that he was small,

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<v Speaker 10>because I've seen him in real life. He was definitely

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<v Speaker 10>taller than me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he gives you that illusion, and that's why I

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<v Speaker 2>did the interview with him in the dark in the corner.

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<v Speaker 2>I found out afterwards.

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<v Speaker 10>Were you wearing neon?

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<v Speaker 12>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Which I had? Which I had a torch?

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<v Speaker 10>Did you find you? Did you have a flashlight? How

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<v Speaker 10>did you guide your way through?

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<v Speaker 2>They just pointed me to a couple of darty eyes

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<v Speaker 2>in the corner.

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<v Speaker 10>And then you're looking at your interview notes. Were you're

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<v Speaker 10>using your.

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<v Speaker 9>iPhone to it?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, this was before iPhone.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh okay, I'll tell on the illusion. That was such

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<v Speaker 10>a good picture that I had in my.

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<v Speaker 5>Mind as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I can go with that if you want.

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<v Speaker 10>With David Copperfield. Sounds like a really good opening for

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<v Speaker 10>a show.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, So to hang on there a second, Geordana,

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking the body language, and I just got a

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<v Speaker 2>text too that came in from Belinda saying, why do

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<v Speaker 2>people say yes but then shake their head no. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's really quite difficult to do too, to say yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a go too to say yes but then shake

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<v Speaker 2>their head no, yes, no, I've confused my head even

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<v Speaker 2>by trying to do that one three one eight seven

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<v Speaker 2>three or on the text zero four six zero eight

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<v Speaker 2>seven three eight seven three. If you've got any body

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<v Speaker 2>language questions, more with jor Dana after this, coming up

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<v Speaker 2>to ten minutes to two, we'll catch up with a

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<v Speaker 2>good professor, as we do every Wednesday morning about this time,

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<v Speaker 2>just coming up after two Clerk. He's written another really

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<v Speaker 2>interesting article in the Spectator, so we'll talk to him

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<v Speaker 2>about that. We'll talk to him about Albow and where

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<v Speaker 2>Alba goes from here after the meeting with the President

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<v Speaker 2>of the USA that didn't happen in Calgary, and also

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<v Speaker 2>other thoughts from the good Professor about what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>at the moment in the Middle East, what he thinks

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<v Speaker 2>the next step will be. So that's coming up. I

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<v Speaker 2>got by the way I was talking to I can't

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<v Speaker 2>remember who was Scotty I was talking to from Campbelltown,

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<v Speaker 2>who said, did you know that there was a version

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<v Speaker 2>of To Sir with Love by the the Vinyls, which

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<v Speaker 2>was the Lulu song and I didn't, so we found

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<v Speaker 2>it thanks to Chris in the studio. B on the

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<v Speaker 2>Wheels of Steel. This is a bit of what it's

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<v Speaker 2>out of me. They go the vinyls version of to

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<v Speaker 2>Sir with Love. I like that, and don't forget tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>morning too. In the live lounge, who will we have

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<v Speaker 2>for the Thursday and wanting live lounge? I believe tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>will be going international. Jeff on the text, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>martial artist. If I'm talking to someone that's throwing their

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<v Speaker 2>arms around while talking, I see this is threatening behavior

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<v Speaker 2>and I will grab their arm and stop it. So

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<v Speaker 2>Geor Dana's on the phone, and she is a communications

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<v Speaker 2>and body language expert. How do you what should you do?

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<v Speaker 2>If you want people then if they're looking at the

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<v Speaker 2>way you move your arms around, for example, but you're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to be sincere and you want them to realize

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<v Speaker 2>that you're being sincere and maybe even non threatening, what

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<v Speaker 2>would you do.

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<v Speaker 14>Open palms is trust, open palms is honesty. So we

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<v Speaker 14>want to look at the opposite of what we would

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<v Speaker 14>naturally do. So if you've been accused of something and

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<v Speaker 14>genuinely it wasn't you what do you naturally do with

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<v Speaker 14>your hands?

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<v Speaker 10>You go, wasn't me? And what do you? What do

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<v Speaker 10>you do with your hands?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you hold them up if you're under arrest, one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent, well you put them forward. You put them

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<v Speaker 2>forward as if to say, look, there's nothing here, there's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing hidden.

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<v Speaker 10>Exactly, and that goes back centuries.

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<v Speaker 14>It's a primal cueue, you know, associated with sincerity and

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<v Speaker 14>transperity and safety and connection.

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<v Speaker 10>And we literally show we're not hiding anything.

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<v Speaker 14>So when we don't use our hands or we hide

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<v Speaker 14>them underneath the table, very unnatural. In fact, we tend

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<v Speaker 14>to trust people less if we actually can't see their hands,

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<v Speaker 14>because there's part of their body.

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<v Speaker 10>That we don't know what's happening.

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<v Speaker 14>And you know, back in the caveman eras, we would

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<v Speaker 14>see if we would trust someone by what they were

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<v Speaker 14>holding in their hands? Are you holding a weapon? Or

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<v Speaker 14>are your palms open? And now can I trust you instantly?

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<v Speaker 2>What about if someone is lying to you or someone's deceptive,

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<v Speaker 2>if someone's not sussist, what do they do when they're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to fool you?

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<v Speaker 10>Good question?

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<v Speaker 14>I would say anything anytime we can't see the hands

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<v Speaker 14>or they're static, that would be a distraction from how

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<v Speaker 14>would I normally carry myself.

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<v Speaker 2>What about if somebody talks to and they keep their

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<v Speaker 2>hands in their pockets, because I've always thought that's just

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who's socially uncomfortable. Could there be another meaning to that?

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<v Speaker 14>Sometimes it's literally just because it is such a comfortable

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<v Speaker 14>position that they've done for years and years and years.

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<v Speaker 14>But we always need to think, what is this dynamic

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<v Speaker 14>that we're in, what is this interaction and what message

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<v Speaker 14>am I trying to convey right now? Because we tend

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<v Speaker 14>to see the world. In fact, we do see the

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<v Speaker 14>world through our own lens. So what happens is I

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<v Speaker 14>will judge your body language and how you carry yourself

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<v Speaker 14>based on how I would do that gesture myself. So

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<v Speaker 14>if I'm in a meeting with you and you're sitting

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<v Speaker 14>with your hands and your fingers are interlocked at the table,

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<v Speaker 14>you might be really calm, or you might be you know,

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<v Speaker 14>considering something, or you might you know, be quite angry.

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<v Speaker 14>I will look at you and go, how would I

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<v Speaker 14>be feeling if I use my hands like that right now?

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<v Speaker 14>And then I will project my own emotions and my

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<v Speaker 14>own judgment of how I would use.

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<v Speaker 10>That gesture onto you.

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<v Speaker 14>So we need to be open and neutral at all

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<v Speaker 14>times because otherwise there's a real risk of miscommunication and misunderstanding,

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<v Speaker 14>even if it's not intentional. So coming back to the

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<v Speaker 14>guys with the hands in the pockets, like, yeah, as

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<v Speaker 14>I said, it might be a really calm and casual position,

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<v Speaker 14>but if someone's looking at us, it's very quick.

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<v Speaker 10>It's a very fast judgment to go, oh they're uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh they're awkward.

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<v Speaker 14>Oh they don't feel, you know, in their power in

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<v Speaker 14>this moment. Remember in our last chat, I've got you to.

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<v Speaker 10>Visualize glitter chess, Yes, Mariah Kerry, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 14>So yeah, it's getting us into a confident pose.

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<v Speaker 10>Anything that stops us from punching.

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<v Speaker 14>Down and closing ourselves off instantly opens us up. Confidence

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<v Speaker 14>equals power, not just for ourselves, but also in terms

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<v Speaker 14>of the energy that we're actually giving off. Wow, I

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<v Speaker 14>often get asked about hands behind our back.

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<v Speaker 10>We want to avoid that as well.

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<v Speaker 14>Why is that Because it's a more open posture than

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<v Speaker 14>having them closed in front of us, But it is

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<v Speaker 14>also a signal for a level of discomfort or I'm

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<v Speaker 14>hiding something from you because your hands are hidden. So again,

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<v Speaker 14>we can't see that, and there is a level of

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<v Speaker 14>distrust when we can't see your hands.

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<v Speaker 10>Even though it does obviously help your chest be open

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<v Speaker 10>and neutral. And we don't want a point. We hate pointers.

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<v Speaker 10>We don't want a point that comes across as a graston.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's what I always say. Sometimes the hands can't

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<v Speaker 2>see what the eyes are saying.

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<v Speaker 10>I love your little I'm going to call them pearls

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<v Speaker 10>of wisdom.

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<v Speaker 2>I just make that up. I tell you, I just

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<v Speaker 2>came to be like that, you know, And I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>even moving my hands to come to that pearler.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, you've got such a convincing tone when you

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<v Speaker 10>say that. Amazing gems.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't forget that great philosopher that I have studied, George

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<v Speaker 2>Costanza from Seinfeld when he said believe the lie.

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<v Speaker 10>He's got it all.

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<v Speaker 2>Give people a website, give people some things they should.

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<v Speaker 10>Jordanab dot com at you, thank you so much. Absolutely

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<v Speaker 10>love that.

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<v Speaker 14>And on Instagram, I'm always sharing tips around body language

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<v Speaker 14>and confidence and how to carry ourselves and share our voice.

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<v Speaker 14>And it's Jordana Bornstein, which is really hard to spell,

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<v Speaker 14>but if you make.

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<v Speaker 2>It there, I'd love to see you I'm glad you

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<v Speaker 2>said Jordana Mine. I still can't say your name, but

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<v Speaker 2>thank you so much because I wasn't even going to

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<v Speaker 2>attempt that communications and body language expert for all the

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<v Speaker 2>chronic over flappers. Four minutes to two, got the news

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<v Speaker 2>coming up at a moment, coming up to two o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get your news in just a moment. Here's a

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<v Speaker 2>text from Paul. If my ears will go the way

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<v Speaker 2>of Van goffs if I hear the the vinyls to

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<v Speaker 2>sit with Love again, says Rick, I'd rather hear Rick

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<v Speaker 2>Miln sing it. That's very funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, let's get your news update. Professor Flint on the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Onto GB four, BC and network stations. This is Australia

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<v Speaker 1>Overnight with Phil O'Neil morning.

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<v Speaker 2>I just missed that what they said the shortest day

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<v Speaker 2>of the year was. So if I did tell you

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<v Speaker 2>it was tomorrow, then that will be good. But I

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<v Speaker 2>missed it. So if you picked up on that text

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<v Speaker 2>me zero four six zero eight seven three eight seven

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<v Speaker 2>three shortest day of the year means perhaps one of

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<v Speaker 2>the shortest morning overnight shows of the year. Two that

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<v Speaker 2>would also be a bit of a hand in hand

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<v Speaker 2>as we sort of head towards the middle of the night,

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of winter one three one eight seven

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<v Speaker 2>three on the phone on the emails overnights at two

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<v Speaker 2>GB dot com. This one from Steve and hey, Phil,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe Trump just does not like our minister in Washington.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course that would be the world way Min's Kevin Rudd.

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<v Speaker 2>Take him away and maybe Trump would be more friendly. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not quite sure what Donald Trump's actually up to.

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<v Speaker 2>We spoke to Michael Packy a moment ago. He was

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<v Speaker 2>following the Prime Minister round. It still is the G

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<v Speaker 2>seven in Calgary. But Donald Trump has disappeared. He's had

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<v Speaker 2>to head back to whatever the pressing problem is. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure there's a lot of conjecture about that, and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people think that they know what the issue

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<v Speaker 2>might be. But he's meeting this is Donald Trump with

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<v Speaker 2>his national security team in the situation room in Washington.

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<v Speaker 2>So he had to hurry back in a hurry. And

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<v Speaker 2>it was the French President Emmanuel Macraw who said that

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump had to go because he had to deal

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<v Speaker 2>with things like a ceasefire between Israel and Iran. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump wrote on his truth social wrong. He has

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<v Speaker 2>no idea why I'm heading back to Washington, but it

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<v Speaker 2>certainly has nothing to do with a ceasefire. It's much

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<v Speaker 2>bigger than that, whether purposely or not. And Manuel or

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<v Speaker 2>always gets it wrong. Stay tuned. And as I said before,

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<v Speaker 2>the White House Press Secretary Carolyn Leavitt gave us a

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<v Speaker 2>completely different view of what's going on. So we're not

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<v Speaker 2>really sure what's going on in terms of you know, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we know Albo is not meeting up with Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>but we don't know why Donald Trump has gone back

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<v Speaker 2>in a hurry to Washington. He said that he's not

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<v Speaker 2>seeking a real end or no a biggie parton he is.

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump's seeking a real end, but he won't be

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<v Speaker 2>reaching out to Iran to have a discussion about peace talks.

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<v Speaker 2>And Pete hag Seth said that it's up to Americans

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<v Speaker 2>to defend the US assets, so which I again, we

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<v Speaker 2>presume him talking about the US assets in the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know. We'll keep an eye out on that.

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<v Speaker 2>I got all the news channels up here. Nothing going

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<v Speaker 2>on at the moment. Mart yunis never know, do you

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<v Speaker 2>when news breaks, you'll hear it First, here's a text

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<v Speaker 2>from Jeff ahead of us having a chat with the

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<v Speaker 2>good Professor in just a Moment, Professor David Flint, one

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<v Speaker 2>of our all time favorite people. Jeff said, though the

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<v Speaker 2>only reason, and we were talking about body language before,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, the only real place emphasising or emphasizing on

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<v Speaker 2>gesticulating with one's arm could be considered acceptable in a

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<v Speaker 2>film set or a theater stage as a lead in

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<v Speaker 2>or interaction or perhaps queuing a fellow actor. What's funny

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<v Speaker 2>you would say that, Jeff, because Dale and I were

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<v Speaker 2>just talking about acting, because we're trying to get hold

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<v Speaker 2>of Steve Bisley, who is this week's Peeping Tom, and

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<v Speaker 2>we've managed to find the fact he's an acting coach.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said to Dale, well, why don't you send

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<v Speaker 2>in your head shot and you might get a bit

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<v Speaker 2>more acting too. I don't know if you know if

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<v Speaker 2>you've seen Dale's chops when it comes to acting, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's right up there with some of the biggest movie

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<v Speaker 2>stars in the world, including Superman Returns, Danny deck Chair, Wicked, Love,

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<v Speaker 2>The Maria Corpse Story, All Saints as well. Did you

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<v Speaker 2>actually have I don't think he had a starring role

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<v Speaker 2>per se, unless, of course, you happen to freeze frame

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<v Speaker 2>on that particular moment, but you know he was in it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I said, well, why don't you go and perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>this could be another thing, another string in your bow.

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<v Speaker 2>You could perhaps get taught by Steve Bisley. We can

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<v Speaker 2>get him to come on the show and do some

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<v Speaker 2>stuff for Peeping Tom and this could be again you're

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<v Speaker 2>calling Dale. You could be back on the Silver stage,

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<v Speaker 2>or if you prefer, just walking the planks. And he said, no,

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't want to do that again. But he did

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of extra work, and I did an extra

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<v Speaker 2>work once. I did. My mate Nick Geanopolis did a

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<v Speaker 2>film called The Wannabes and he said to me, mate,

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<v Speaker 2>would you like to come on and, you know, be

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<v Speaker 2>a security guard in Brashes while his child band. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like the Wiggles signed some CDs in Brashes. You'll

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<v Speaker 2>be in the background, You'll be a security guard. I said, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>no problem. A bit disappointed. I did it because I

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<v Speaker 2>was supposed to go to lunch funnily enough with Bob

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<v Speaker 2>Geldoff that day, and I knocked Bob Geldoff on the

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<v Speaker 2>head in order to go and be an extra in

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<v Speaker 2>a movie, and because Nick Ganopolis was my mate, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was, you know, another chance to have new experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that Bob Geldoff conversation wouldn't have been, But what

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<v Speaker 2>I did was one of the golden rules that you're

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<v Speaker 2>not supposed to do. You're not supposed to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>the actors if you're an extra, and I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm sort of just wandering around and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the actors was there, and I went up

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<v Speaker 2>and said alo to him, and he was it mortified.

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<v Speaker 2>He couldn't believe that this lower than anything person would

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<v Speaker 2>actually dare to desecrate the air between him and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>superiority by actually going up and speaking to him. And

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that. And so later on I said

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<v Speaker 2>to Nick Nick Giannoppos, I said, make that guy's not

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<v Speaker 2>very friendly. He said, no, he's friendly, but you're just

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<v Speaker 2>not on his level. And I went, well, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you mean by that? He said, well, because he's an actor,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a thespian, and you are merely an extra. And

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't privy to that world at all. I got

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<v Speaker 2>more of an idea of it when I watched Ricky

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<v Speaker 2>Gervai's extras, which was excellent, by the way, But I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't realize there was this pecking order. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense now when you think about it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>min jury was just a you know, it was an

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<v Speaker 2>actor who think I've seen maybe once or twice. He

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't Tom Cruise, for God's sake. But nonetheless, there is

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<v Speaker 2>this golden rule when it comes to approaching actors, in particular,

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<v Speaker 2>if you were an extra, and if you've ever been

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<v Speaker 2>an extra in anything, let me know, give me a

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<v Speaker 2>ring on one eight seven three, love to know your experience.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing about actors, they're very odd characters and

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<v Speaker 2>you know who they're similar to comedians. Don't ever go

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<v Speaker 2>to dinner with a bunch of comedians because what you

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<v Speaker 2>think is going to be a fantastic time full of

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<v Speaker 2>lives and what have you isn't because comedians keep the

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<v Speaker 2>whole humor to themselves. If somebody says something that they

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<v Speaker 2>consider to be funny, or somebody tells a joke, they're

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<v Speaker 2>they're squirreling it away or mentally squirreling it away so

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<v Speaker 2>they can use it later. So there was no banter whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>And I went to dinner with the amazing Jonathan Do

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<v Speaker 2>you remember him. He was the guy that was on Hey, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>It's Saturday, pretend to cut his arm off, all that

1:26:40.160 --> 1:26:42.320
<v Speaker 2>sort of stuff. Very funny guy. I don't think he's

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<v Speaker 2>with us anymore. And a made of mine Haskell Daniel,

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<v Speaker 2>the comedian, and I thought, Gee, this is gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>a great laugh. No it wasn't. It was as boring

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<v Speaker 2>as because every time you think there was a setup

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<v Speaker 2>for the joke in think Bang, someone's gonna come in

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<v Speaker 2>and this is going to be brilliant. They were using

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<v Speaker 2>that for material down the track. And I'll tell you,

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<v Speaker 2>but I won't mention his name. I was at an

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<v Speaker 2>awards ceremony after the show. I think it might have

1:27:09.520 --> 1:27:12.400
<v Speaker 2>been People's Choice Awards, one of them, and there was

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<v Speaker 2>this very famous Australian actor there and I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to mention his name because I don't want to. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Shitcam the guy. He can't defend himself, he's not around.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'd like to, but I won't.

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<v Speaker 3>But he.

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<v Speaker 2>Comes across as one of the most affable and lovable

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<v Speaker 2>Australian characters in a movie ever. If you saw him

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<v Speaker 2>in a movie, you love him. You would love the

1:27:34.040 --> 1:27:37.320
<v Speaker 2>character that he played in an iconic Australian film. He

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<v Speaker 2>was one of the most lovable characters ever in an

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<v Speaker 2>Australian film. So with that in mind, I said to

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<v Speaker 2>my mate, look there he is over there. Let's go

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<v Speaker 2>up and say hello to him and bring him up

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<v Speaker 2>a bottle of wine. And he was talking at the

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<v Speaker 2>time to Deborah Fulton, I think that was her name,

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<v Speaker 2>Deborah Fulton. She was the newsreader on Channel ten. And

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<v Speaker 2>I went up and I, Hellai, how are you? And

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<v Speaker 2>I gave this guy, this really famous Australian actor who

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<v Speaker 2>I thought was going to be the nicest guy in

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<v Speaker 2>the world because of the character that he played in

1:28:09.920 --> 1:28:12.200
<v Speaker 2>this film, that you would know this film. I could

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<v Speaker 2>tell you you'd know straight away because you've seen it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm not going to tell you the name of

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<v Speaker 2>the actor. But so I went up there and I said, oh, mate,

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<v Speaker 2>here you go, here's a bottle of wine from me

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<v Speaker 2>in my mate, and the effing and blinding and what

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<v Speaker 2>I had had coming back at us and we were

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<v Speaker 2>just dumb struck. We couldn't believe it. My maid and

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at him, I was like, what did he

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<v Speaker 2>just say that, and Deborah turned around and said, no,

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<v Speaker 2>he's always like that, And I couldn't believe it. I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't believe it. One of the nicest people you think

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<v Speaker 2>you would ever meet, based on the character that he

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<v Speaker 2>played in this movie is the complete antithesis of the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of miserable person this person is. And you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>believe it. You wouldn't have picked it. You would never

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<v Speaker 2>pick it. Now if I said to you, ruin the

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<v Speaker 2>movie for you, if I tell you who he is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know it. You'll never be able to watch that

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<v Speaker 2>film again the same way. So it just goes to show,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you can't judge a person by the character

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<v Speaker 2>that they play in a movie. If you see someone

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<v Speaker 2>who comes across as really a lovable, nice person, the

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<v Speaker 2>possibility is that they're, yes, Paul on the texture right,

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<v Speaker 2>they come across as a certain kind of person that

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<v Speaker 2>they are not. They're really really well this one in

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<v Speaker 2>particular anyway, Waite. So the point of that was that

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<v Speaker 2>we're still trying to get a hold of Steve Bisley,

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Bisily, if you can give us any tips, because

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<v Speaker 2>he's our peeping Tom. At this stage, Dale's found his

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<v Speaker 2>acting class that he does, but it's also requiring Dale

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<v Speaker 2>to send a a headshot and his bio and a

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<v Speaker 2>few excerpts from his reel as well. In order to

1:29:50.280 --> 1:29:52.519
<v Speaker 2>get you don't know Dale, you could end up in

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<v Speaker 2>Mad Max six playing one of the villains, playing the

1:29:55.520 --> 1:29:58.200
<v Speaker 2>character that, to angry Anderson doesn't want to play. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be able to get Steve Bisley the track seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>minutes past two. Good to hear from you if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to send me a text or an email, or

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<v Speaker 2>you want to give me a ring, because it's nice

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<v Speaker 2>to share the morning with you. Zero four six zero

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<v Speaker 2>eight seven three eight seven three emails overnight at two

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<v Speaker 2>GB dot com on the phone one three one eight

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<v Speaker 2>seven three. Let's catch up with our good friend, the

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<v Speaker 2>good Professor David Flint after this, coming up to twenty

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<v Speaker 2>minutes past two. Good to have your company. I'm fill

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<v Speaker 2>O'Neil and the email is Overnight's at two GB dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's an email from Will, Hello, Will, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Trump has dropped hints he does not like Australia's current

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<v Speaker 2>left wing fascist government, says Will on the email. The

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<v Speaker 2>innocent groups, the innocent people now dying in our Suburbs

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<v Speaker 2>is directly linked to the immigration policy now in place,

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<v Speaker 2>and this government has a lot of blood on their hands.

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<v Speaker 2>Make Australia fairdincom again, says Will. And I've got to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you, I do like that. Make Australia fairedincom again.

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<v Speaker 2>M AfD fadder. It's kind of like maga, isn't it

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<v Speaker 2>m A f da because I'm terrible with acronymics, but anyway, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I quite like that. Make Australia fair dinkom again. That's terrific.

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<v Speaker 2>Note of what I came in from Franny on the email.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello Frannie, how are you Phil? I enjoy the overnight show.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd rather hear Rick every week. I find him entertaining,

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<v Speaker 2>regardless of whether or not he receives or cause or not.

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<v Speaker 2>This is of course Rick Mill that we're in the

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<v Speaker 2>discussion right now about what we should do with this.

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<v Speaker 2>And also I appreciate you know the other information that

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<v Speaker 2>you gave me, Frannie, but I won't talk about it

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<v Speaker 2>on the air. On the air it's nice though, nothing

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<v Speaker 2>wrong with it. But the other regulars are great and

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<v Speaker 2>really add to the show. Well, thank you, Frannie, and

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for being civil on every email too, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about you know, Rick Milner, because as we said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the whole point is to keep the show interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't care. I mean, I will have

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<v Speaker 2>on whatever you want, if you want your show. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>merely here as a conduit to either keep you entertained

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<v Speaker 2>or try to stop you from falling asleep, or to

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<v Speaker 2>try it for make you fall asleep, whatever you fancy.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, as far as Rick Milns concerned, another

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<v Speaker 2>text came through. This one's from Julie who said, instead

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<v Speaker 2>of monthly for Rick Milns Antiques and Collectibles, could you

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<v Speaker 2>wean us off slowly and make it fortnightly. We could

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<v Speaker 2>do that, Julie, As I said again, but you know

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<v Speaker 2>the point is that doing this overnight show is we

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<v Speaker 2>just want to make it interesting for you. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we can bring in a lot of guests and all

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<v Speaker 2>we can you know, talk a lot. We've even had

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<v Speaker 2>that discussion too, because Mike Jeffries takes lots of calls,

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<v Speaker 2>goes through the mornings with that, and we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>that and said a couple of weeks ago on the text,

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<v Speaker 2>would you rather we just took guests or rather just

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<v Speaker 2>took calls all the way through the morning, or would

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<v Speaker 2>you rather we mix it up with guests, And the

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<v Speaker 2>majority of the people that got back to us said no,

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<v Speaker 2>can you have guests on? So that's what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, it's all the work in progress. And again,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the reason why I'm here in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the night is because I'm learning how to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>Consider this my apprenticeship. You know, they don't put you

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<v Speaker 2>on the great daytime getigs. You know, you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you you know raw like I am, if you're relatively

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<v Speaker 2>inexperienced in the talk back arena as i am. So

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<v Speaker 2>the whole point is for me to learn as well

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<v Speaker 2>and to get with your guidance, you know, some idea

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<v Speaker 2>of making the best show. So that's the point of it.

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<v Speaker 2>The point of it is to try and give you

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<v Speaker 2>the best show that we possibly can over night. And

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<v Speaker 2>so any figurebaut you want to give us will be great.

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<v Speaker 2>Will says nothing might be in the third wheel. Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump had a headache. That's why he's gone back to

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<v Speaker 2>the US. There was another text that came through, and

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<v Speaker 2>this was about the shortest day too. Hello, Susanna, how

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<v Speaker 2>are you shortest day in Australia is during the winter solstice,

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<v Speaker 2>occurring on June twenty one. Where are we at now,

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<v Speaker 2>June eighteenth? I thought it was tomorrow, they said that though, Susannah.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the day when the southern hemisphere is tilted

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<v Speaker 2>furthest away from the sun, resulting in fewer daylight hours

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<v Speaker 2>and the longest night of the year. Well, I okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Susanna says twenty first, I thought it was tomorrow, So

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<v Speaker 2>I'll keep an eye on that. Please keep your text

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<v Speaker 2>and emails coming through one three one eight seven three.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also the phone number if you like to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>zero four six zero eight seven three eight seven three

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<v Speaker 2>and overnights at two GB dot com. Also on the

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<v Speaker 2>on the email as well. And somebody else just sided

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<v Speaker 2>texting to by Rick about Rick appreciate that?

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<v Speaker 12>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>What was I going to tell you? Okay, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what's going on with Donald Trump. I've got the

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<v Speaker 2>tellies on, I've got CNN on, I've got Fox News on,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've got what's that one that's Sky News UK.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing going on at the moment, So if anything does happen,

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<v Speaker 2>not expecting it too necessarily, but you know, it feels

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<v Speaker 2>like there's a bit of a chill in the air. Well, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll talk to you and bring that to you straight away.

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<v Speaker 2>Now speaking about political news, if you want your political news,

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<v Speaker 2>don't go any further than this man.

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<v Speaker 1>Now on overnights, Professor David Flint analyzes the important events

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<v Speaker 1>of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, finally, some sanity shall prevail. How are you good, professor?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there you Phil and how are you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very well. I'd like to talk to you about

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things. We're pretty much on the same

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<v Speaker 2>page with this article. Another great one you've written in

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<v Speaker 2>the Spectator enriching Beijing flirting with Tehran. Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 2>that certainly.

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<v Speaker 3>Well. The government, the Australian government, which is that a

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<v Speaker 3>hard lift leader. He comes from the hard left, was

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<v Speaker 3>the American far left, and he is breaking away to

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<v Speaker 3>some degree from American policy. And I'm not surprised that

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<v Speaker 3>he is obviously not prepared. He doesn't want to go

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<v Speaker 3>to the White House. He knows he'll be he'll be

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<v Speaker 3>in difficulties there when he appears before the President. And

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<v Speaker 3>this idea of slipping it in on the sidelines of

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<v Speaker 3>the Gen seven was never a good idea. There would

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<v Speaker 3>never be enough time to deal with the problems appropriately.

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<v Speaker 3>But he just doesn't want to see the president. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure he's delighted by the fact that the president

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<v Speaker 3>has gone off.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you believe that?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, right, that's my view. I don't think it's at

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<v Speaker 3>all disappointed. I think he's delighted because the last thing

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<v Speaker 3>he wants is to have to face the president and

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<v Speaker 3>who's going to try and cover it with peripheral matters.

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<v Speaker 3>But the President was going to really come to the

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<v Speaker 3>very important issues, particularly of the fact that we are

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<v Speaker 3>just not attending to our defense, we've let it run

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<v Speaker 3>down terribly, and that this is a government which shows

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<v Speaker 3>a real sheepishness in relation to Beijing. I think they're

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<v Speaker 3>very happy to be the quiet tributary state of Beijing

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<v Speaker 3>and misbehave in any way. And we saw that when

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<v Speaker 3>the Chinese Communists came with the Navy and started a

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<v Speaker 3>firing exercise in our waters in our economic zone. That

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<v Speaker 3>didn't tell us about it, and we had to rely

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<v Speaker 3>on a civil aviation pilot to tell us that this

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<v Speaker 3>was going on. And then they went round the country

1:37:18.240 --> 1:37:22.960
<v Speaker 3>where they obviously were conducting an intelligence operation in relation

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<v Speaker 3>to our ports. And what we're doing. And it's extraordinary

1:37:28.160 --> 1:37:32.839
<v Speaker 3>when you look at the situation in relation to climate change.

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<v Speaker 3>And I must say once again we said were having

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<v Speaker 3>a very cold winter for a world in which the

1:37:39.520 --> 1:37:42.400
<v Speaker 3>climate's supposed to be warming, and we've had a very

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<v Speaker 3>moderate sumhow we don't have the heat waves that we

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<v Speaker 3>used to have. But there's an obsession with this, But

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<v Speaker 3>scientists to support the view that man is contributing to

1:37:55.000 --> 1:38:01.840
<v Speaker 3>climate change all agree. Nobody challenges but position that what

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<v Speaker 3>we're doing is not going to change the climate in

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<v Speaker 3>the slightest. We're spending this enormous amount of money, We're

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<v Speaker 3>running down industries, We're changing what was a cheap and

1:38:14.920 --> 1:38:18.800
<v Speaker 3>reliable grid, We're changing that to something which is expensive

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<v Speaker 3>and something which is unreliable. And nobody's benefiting except for

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<v Speaker 3>a few people who are supportive of this, particularly those

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<v Speaker 3>in the political class who are behind candidates and who

1:38:34.920 --> 1:38:37.760
<v Speaker 3>are making a lot of money out of renewables. But

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<v Speaker 3>the only organization which is profiting from all this enormously

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<v Speaker 3>is the Communist Party of China. It's extraordinary, and why

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<v Speaker 3>are they doing this. Why do they take the view

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<v Speaker 3>that we must be very quiet and say nothing when

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<v Speaker 3>the Chinese navy Behos Provoca. We've just got to accept

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<v Speaker 3>all this. And then in relation to what's happening in

1:39:04.960 --> 1:39:09.360
<v Speaker 3>the Middle East, they've pulled away very much from American policy.

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<v Speaker 3>When we were asked to provide a ship, not because

1:39:13.520 --> 1:39:15.960
<v Speaker 3>the Americans needed a ship, but because they wanted it

1:39:16.080 --> 1:39:22.000
<v Speaker 3>is a multi national fleet to go there and deal

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<v Speaker 3>with the hootsies who are terrorists funded by Tehran. The

1:39:27.479 --> 1:39:30.080
<v Speaker 3>government refused to send one, which is the first time

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<v Speaker 3>I think we've done anything like that. And we're pulling

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<v Speaker 3>away from Israel. We seem to be treating Israel as

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<v Speaker 3>though Israel is the hostile country, whereas everybody knows, and

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<v Speaker 3>Trump has been the one to work this out, that

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<v Speaker 3>America and Israel can't allow Tehran to have atomic weapons

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<v Speaker 3>because they're very open agenda is and they now it

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<v Speaker 3>in the maxims, the slogans that they pronounce regularly, death

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<v Speaker 3>to Israel and death to America. And we know that

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<v Speaker 3>this dangerous, quite insane regime will do terrible things if

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<v Speaker 3>they get nuclear weapons, and they seem to be intent,

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<v Speaker 3>or there seemed to be intent. They are intent on

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<v Speaker 3>getting them, and Israel cannot tolerate that because as Nettano

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<v Speaker 3>who said they had one holocaust in the previous century

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<v Speaker 3>and they're not going to have another holocaust. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about the other day too, just moving

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<v Speaker 2>back to China, I saw this story Orrancy and End's website.

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<v Speaker 2>China's aircraft carriers send message in the open Pacific for

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<v Speaker 2>the first time, and bigger and more powerful ships are coming.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just there on a website, and it's not like

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<v Speaker 2>it's hidden.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and the leader has made it very clear that

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<v Speaker 3>he wants to know by twenty seven whether the Chinese

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<v Speaker 3>forces are in a position to take Taiwan.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that seems to be the date that's bandied around

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<v Speaker 2>a lot too, because a lot of people have said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, under the cover of darkness, with this current distraction,

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, we can look at that. But I'd

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<v Speaker 2>heard twenty twenty seven bandied around a few times.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, several times. And it would be an obvious

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<v Speaker 3>thing to do if you were going to do this,

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<v Speaker 3>to do it when the United States is engaged heavily

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<v Speaker 3>in the Middle East, that would be the ideal time.

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<v Speaker 3>But as I've been arguing that column for a long time,

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<v Speaker 3>there is an axis which is Moscow, in Tehran, Beijing

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<v Speaker 3>and Piangyang. And that axis is an axis which is

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<v Speaker 3>completely against our concepts of Western civilization and democracy in

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<v Speaker 3>the rule of law. It presents a very rival view

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<v Speaker 3>of the world and it's something which goes completely against

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<v Speaker 3>what we believe in.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you think is going on?

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<v Speaker 12>Then?

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<v Speaker 2>For the last month the Chinese aircraft carriers operating closer

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<v Speaker 2>and closer to us and further from their own shores.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they testing their technology testing the waters?

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<v Speaker 3>Without doubt they are, and they're testing what they can

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<v Speaker 3>do in the event of the struggle. And the news

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<v Speaker 3>has come out recently that communication devices have been found

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<v Speaker 3>in solar panels and turbines and even electric cars which

1:42:37.360 --> 1:42:42.600
<v Speaker 3>would allow those engaging to turn off the power to

1:42:42.640 --> 1:42:48.680
<v Speaker 3>these things, and that they're also have been looking at

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<v Speaker 3>the ways in which we communicate with the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>the world. Jim mole and warned that if there were

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<v Speaker 3>an invasion of Taiwan, we might not know about it

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<v Speaker 3>because we might find that our communications with the world

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<v Speaker 3>have been turned off, which would be very easy to do.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, when you don't, you have the ships

1:43:09.080 --> 1:43:12.759
<v Speaker 3>that can cut through these things. There have been cases

1:43:12.760 --> 1:43:18.240
<v Speaker 3>which have occurred in Europe where cables have been cut.

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<v Speaker 3>They think by well, they know by Russian vessels that

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<v Speaker 3>these powers are considering, they're contemplating the ways in which

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<v Speaker 3>they should react if there is a breakouts of hostilities

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<v Speaker 3>concerning example, concerning Taiwan, as there have been breakouts, as

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<v Speaker 3>there is a continuing war in the Ukraine, there is

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<v Speaker 3>a war in the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 2>And as you've said time and time again on this program,

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<v Speaker 2>but of course on your articles as well, that Albanesi

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<v Speaker 2>and the government just seem to be turning a blind,

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<v Speaker 2>iron ignorant i to this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, they just don't seem to accept that these are

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<v Speaker 3>the serious problems. But what we've got now is this

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<v Speaker 3>ridiculous idea that they're calling both sides to de escalate

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<v Speaker 3>and go into negotiations. There was a stage in the

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<v Speaker 3>Second World War when the principal powers came together and

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<v Speaker 3>they said, what the position is of the West in

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<v Speaker 3>relation to Germany and Japan was unconditional surrender. There were

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<v Speaker 3>going to be no negotiations. There was going to be

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<v Speaker 3>no way in which there could be any any conditions

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<v Speaker 3>imponies by either powers. They would be just they would

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<v Speaker 3>have to be absolutely defeated, which of course they were.

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<v Speaker 3>There is a time in struggle when that happens. And

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<v Speaker 3>President Trump, probably against the wishes of Israel, insisted on

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<v Speaker 3>sixty days in which Tehran had the opportunity the choice

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<v Speaker 3>of voluntarily stopping the development of atomic weapons or having

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<v Speaker 3>it imposed on them, and on the sixty first day

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<v Speaker 3>Israel attack, because Israel cannot tolerate Tehran having nuclear weapons,

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<v Speaker 3>because they know that these will be exploded over Israel

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<v Speaker 3>and be worse, probably than what happened in the Second

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<v Speaker 3>World War.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about history repeating after this, you don't mind

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<v Speaker 2>holding on a moment, certainly, good to have you here

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<v Speaker 2>with us. At twenty one minutes to three, We've got

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<v Speaker 2>the good Professor David Flint on the phone and will

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<v Speaker 2>take your cause. If you have anything you'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>add after you've heard part two of our chat here

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<v Speaker 2>with David Flint, will do that in just a moment,

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<v Speaker 2>or on the text you can text now zero four

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<v Speaker 2>six to zero eight seven three eight seven three. Just

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<v Speaker 2>before we get back to the good Professor, Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>has just tweeted on his Truth Social Truth social page.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it tweeted that you go on Truth Social or

1:45:57.920 --> 1:46:00.679
<v Speaker 2>post it anyway whatever. He said that we know exactly

1:46:00.760 --> 1:46:04.360
<v Speaker 2>where the so called Supreme Leader is hiding. He's obviously

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the leader of Iran here. He's an easy target,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's safe there. We're not going to take him

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<v Speaker 2>out and then brackets kill at least not for now.

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<v Speaker 2>But we don't want missiles shot at civilians or American soldiers.

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<v Speaker 2>Our patients is wearing thin. Thank you for your attention

1:46:20.479 --> 1:46:23.400
<v Speaker 2>to this matter. He's also just tweeted out a moment

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<v Speaker 2>ago as well, unconditional surrender, just those words. And he's

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<v Speaker 2>also said that they now have complete and total control

1:46:32.640 --> 1:46:36.000
<v Speaker 2>of the skies over Iran. So that's the latest with

1:46:36.080 --> 1:46:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump and what's going on with the situation in Iran,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll keep you updated with more details about that

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<v Speaker 2>as they break throughout the morning as well. Back with them,

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<v Speaker 2>Professor David Flint, thank you so much for holding on.

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<v Speaker 2>I was saying off air a moment ago when we

1:46:49.280 --> 1:46:52.639
<v Speaker 2>were talking that it does feel like we've got some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of history repeating here, maybe even going back to

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<v Speaker 2>say nineteen fourteen. Are you seeing any parallels here?

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<v Speaker 3>It is possible. There's no requirement that this will happen.

1:47:07.800 --> 1:47:11.000
<v Speaker 3>There's no there's no promise that this will happen, but

1:47:11.120 --> 1:47:16.479
<v Speaker 3>it could happen. And if the resistance is such that

1:47:17.760 --> 1:47:21.360
<v Speaker 3>a number of powers in this axis of evil decide

1:47:21.400 --> 1:47:24.720
<v Speaker 3>to act together, then there could be a well. I

1:47:24.760 --> 1:47:28.760
<v Speaker 3>suspect that they won't. I suspect that, as with the

1:47:28.800 --> 1:47:35.200
<v Speaker 3>fall of the regime in Syria, Moscow will remain silent

1:47:35.240 --> 1:47:39.600
<v Speaker 3>because they're over committed. In relation to the Ukraine, I

1:47:39.840 --> 1:47:43.719
<v Speaker 3>doubt that the Chinese Communists will have been very careful

1:47:44.800 --> 1:47:50.400
<v Speaker 3>since since Korea and Vietnam. When they were defeated effectively

1:47:50.479 --> 1:47:55.360
<v Speaker 3>by another communist country in Vietnam, they realized that their

1:47:55.520 --> 1:48:00.120
<v Speaker 3>armies weren't weren't tried and tested, and that's why they

1:48:00.160 --> 1:48:02.400
<v Speaker 3>went back and they've really built up their armies. But

1:48:02.439 --> 1:48:05.599
<v Speaker 3>of course they still know that they haven't yet been

1:48:05.680 --> 1:48:10.640
<v Speaker 3>tried in the field. But they have advanced remarkably in

1:48:11.320 --> 1:48:14.679
<v Speaker 3>ensuring that they have the latest of everything in relation

1:48:14.920 --> 1:48:19.960
<v Speaker 3>to their weapons. They've been very good in getting the

1:48:20.080 --> 1:48:25.240
<v Speaker 3>necessary intellectual property, often taking it from the United States

1:48:25.320 --> 1:48:30.160
<v Speaker 3>and then using it and with they're very good scientists

1:48:30.200 --> 1:48:33.719
<v Speaker 3>developing it even further, so that they are very much,

1:48:34.600 --> 1:48:38.120
<v Speaker 3>very powerful in relation to military matters, and they do

1:48:38.200 --> 1:48:42.680
<v Speaker 3>it more cheaply than the West does. They do it

1:48:43.600 --> 1:48:46.559
<v Speaker 3>without the problems that you have in the West of

1:48:46.760 --> 1:48:51.160
<v Speaker 3>environmental considerations and the need to have the approval of

1:48:51.320 --> 1:48:57.800
<v Speaker 3>various levels of public authorities. And they're able to take

1:48:57.840 --> 1:49:01.120
<v Speaker 3>advantages that are available to us.

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<v Speaker 2>So, if you're going to draw a parallels between nineteen fourteen,

1:49:06.200 --> 1:49:10.599
<v Speaker 2>has the spark that ignited the conflict already happened or

1:49:11.000 --> 1:49:12.920
<v Speaker 2>is this still a possibility.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we've gone further than ever, or further than

1:49:18.840 --> 1:49:22.759
<v Speaker 3>at any time since the Cuban affair. Remember the Cuban

1:49:22.800 --> 1:49:31.160
<v Speaker 3>affair where the Russians were establishing bases in Cuba.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Christiev I think that was wasn't That's right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, And they could reach the United States with weapons

1:49:36.320 --> 1:49:41.160
<v Speaker 3>there if they installed the missiles and so on, And

1:49:41.360 --> 1:49:47.280
<v Speaker 3>Kennedy issued an ultimatum, and the Russian ships continued to

1:49:47.400 --> 1:49:52.800
<v Speaker 3>approach the United States. The world watched in horror, and

1:49:53.040 --> 1:49:57.120
<v Speaker 3>fortunately the Russians turned around, they pulled their forces back,

1:49:57.200 --> 1:50:01.280
<v Speaker 3>and the Americans made some concessions in in Turkey, they

1:50:01.320 --> 1:50:05.040
<v Speaker 3>reduced some bases there, and the Russians did not proceed

1:50:05.080 --> 1:50:08.439
<v Speaker 3>further with the very dangerous bases that they were going

1:50:08.479 --> 1:50:09.519
<v Speaker 3>to build in Tuma.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, because the solution to that was Kennedy offering them

1:50:12.600 --> 1:50:14.840
<v Speaker 2>to not have a loss of face. Are we in

1:50:14.880 --> 1:50:18.120
<v Speaker 2>a position where we have diplomatically the opportunities to do

1:50:18.160 --> 1:50:18.599
<v Speaker 2>that now.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think the Iranian Mullers are worried about face.

1:50:28.320 --> 1:50:31.720
<v Speaker 3>I think they are worried, however, that they've been reduced

1:50:31.800 --> 1:50:37.800
<v Speaker 3>remarkably by the ingenuity of the Israelis. The Israelis have

1:50:37.880 --> 1:50:42.800
<v Speaker 3>really been able to destroy, as they say, decapitate a

1:50:42.840 --> 1:50:47.920
<v Speaker 3>lot of the power in Iran. They've been apparently instructed

1:50:47.960 --> 1:50:52.880
<v Speaker 3>by Trump not to kill the Supreme Leader, which obviously

1:50:53.000 --> 1:50:56.640
<v Speaker 3>is within the within their You know, they could do

1:50:56.760 --> 1:51:01.439
<v Speaker 3>that because they have done some remarkable things. And remember,

1:51:01.479 --> 1:51:07.160
<v Speaker 3>for example, when they they used or they use all

1:51:07.200 --> 1:51:11.519
<v Speaker 3>of the mobile phones of those who were acting for

1:51:11.720 --> 1:51:13.920
<v Speaker 3>the regime and they.

1:51:13.960 --> 1:51:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Use them as bombs, that's right, the blackberries and the pages.

1:51:18.360 --> 1:51:21.800
<v Speaker 3>They yeah, yes, the pages, and this was this was

1:51:21.840 --> 1:51:24.840
<v Speaker 3>a remarkable thing. And the fact that they have been

1:51:24.880 --> 1:51:29.040
<v Speaker 3>able to penetrate into Iran, They've been able to get

1:51:29.040 --> 1:51:34.839
<v Speaker 3>into places and have people eliminated who are running these affairs.

1:51:35.200 --> 1:51:39.000
<v Speaker 3>That has really shocked the Iranians. The government in Iran

1:51:39.120 --> 1:51:45.120
<v Speaker 3>is very unpopular. We foolishly, under Carter pulled the rug

1:51:46.040 --> 1:51:50.799
<v Speaker 3>under the Shah. The Shah was an authoritarian leader, he argued.

1:51:51.200 --> 1:51:53.840
<v Speaker 3>He said, well, this is the only way you can

1:51:53.920 --> 1:51:57.360
<v Speaker 3>rule Iran. He's got a rule it with a certain

1:51:57.360 --> 1:52:01.960
<v Speaker 3>degree of strength. But he he really advanced the country.

1:52:02.040 --> 1:52:06.760
<v Speaker 3>And when you look back on films and photographs of

1:52:07.040 --> 1:52:10.599
<v Speaker 3>life in Tehran at the time of the show, women

1:52:10.680 --> 1:52:14.080
<v Speaker 3>were dressed completely in the Western style. They were looking

1:52:14.200 --> 1:52:18.120
<v Speaker 3>very attractive and up to date. They were taking part

1:52:18.200 --> 1:52:23.000
<v Speaker 3>in life and being involved in businesses and other activities.

1:52:24.040 --> 1:52:27.599
<v Speaker 3>Since this crowd of muellers have come in, they've turned

1:52:27.640 --> 1:52:32.120
<v Speaker 3>everything back to something belonging very much to the past,

1:52:32.320 --> 1:52:37.240
<v Speaker 3>and they are really hated. Seems, as far as I

1:52:37.280 --> 1:52:40.040
<v Speaker 3>can see from what I've been reading, by the Iranian

1:52:40.080 --> 1:52:43.880
<v Speaker 3>people and their hold over the country as weakened. And

1:52:45.080 --> 1:52:48.160
<v Speaker 3>it's a question, as you said earlier, to an extent

1:52:48.240 --> 1:52:52.280
<v Speaker 3>of face, not that the regime worries about it, but

1:52:52.800 --> 1:52:56.920
<v Speaker 3>face before the Iranian people, and if they're seen as

1:52:57.080 --> 1:53:01.679
<v Speaker 3>being weak, this will only encourage Geronians to take action

1:53:01.800 --> 1:53:02.400
<v Speaker 3>against them.

1:53:02.600 --> 1:53:04.280
<v Speaker 2>So do you think that this is what this is

1:53:04.280 --> 1:53:06.880
<v Speaker 2>all about then regime change. And if that's the case,

1:53:06.960 --> 1:53:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean previously with Iraq and Afghanistan, that didn't go

1:53:10.920 --> 1:53:11.599
<v Speaker 2>down too well.

1:53:12.600 --> 1:53:16.599
<v Speaker 3>No, I think that if they do that well. For example,

1:53:16.600 --> 1:53:20.000
<v Speaker 3>in Afghanistan, the Americans handled it very badly. As you say,

1:53:20.720 --> 1:53:22.840
<v Speaker 3>there was a move to bring back the king and

1:53:22.920 --> 1:53:28.240
<v Speaker 3>restore what was the old system of running Afghanistan, which

1:53:28.280 --> 1:53:32.640
<v Speaker 3>is what they did. But they rejected that and established

1:53:33.120 --> 1:53:36.080
<v Speaker 3>brilliant place people who should not have been running the country,

1:53:36.120 --> 1:53:40.320
<v Speaker 3>and it certainly didn't work. And a similar thing happened

1:53:40.320 --> 1:53:44.479
<v Speaker 3>in the Iraq. They're not very good.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Well, there was never a contingency or an in

1:53:48.080 --> 1:53:50.719
<v Speaker 2>game or any kind of plan. From what I could gather.

1:53:51.960 --> 1:53:55.439
<v Speaker 3>The old powers from Europe are much better at this.

1:53:55.560 --> 1:54:01.599
<v Speaker 3>The British work and the French were bying in people

1:54:01.640 --> 1:54:05.559
<v Speaker 3>from the existing ruling class and ruling through them. But

1:54:05.600 --> 1:54:09.000
<v Speaker 3>the Americas allowed anybody to come in whom they thought

1:54:09.479 --> 1:54:12.960
<v Speaker 3>might be a good rule of the country, and they

1:54:13.040 --> 1:54:15.160
<v Speaker 3>weren't the sort of people that should be doing that.

1:54:15.200 --> 1:54:18.559
<v Speaker 3>We saw that in Vietnam, we saw that in Iraq,

1:54:19.400 --> 1:54:20.840
<v Speaker 3>and we saw that in Afghanistan.

1:54:21.040 --> 1:54:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, history just repeats itself on that, doesn't it over and.

1:54:23.920 --> 1:54:30.400
<v Speaker 3>Over, and although no power, particularly the British, was able

1:54:30.439 --> 1:54:33.880
<v Speaker 3>to take Afghanistan. The way they ruled most of India

1:54:33.960 --> 1:54:38.560
<v Speaker 3>and many of their colonies was through the existing ruling class,

1:54:38.600 --> 1:54:42.000
<v Speaker 3>as did the French, and that worked very well and

1:54:42.120 --> 1:54:46.240
<v Speaker 3>quite often it produced a better form of government at

1:54:46.240 --> 1:54:49.720
<v Speaker 3>the time, because it allowed for the modernization of the

1:54:49.760 --> 1:54:55.600
<v Speaker 3>country and the elimination of practices which weren't acceptable in

1:54:55.640 --> 1:54:58.840
<v Speaker 3>a modern society. Of course, for example, in India they

1:54:58.880 --> 1:55:01.840
<v Speaker 3>got rid of suti, which was that there was an

1:55:01.840 --> 1:55:04.560
<v Speaker 3>obligation on the widow to jump on the sumi or

1:55:04.680 --> 1:55:09.720
<v Speaker 3>power of the man who died, and that so offended

1:55:09.760 --> 1:55:13.160
<v Speaker 3>the British they made as illegal, and it was of

1:55:13.200 --> 1:55:16.839
<v Speaker 3>course obviously very good for the women of India.

1:55:18.120 --> 1:55:22.160
<v Speaker 2>The article in the Spectator this Thursday, it's called enriching

1:55:22.320 --> 1:55:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Beijing flirting with Tehran. Let's talk again next week if

1:55:26.160 --> 1:55:26.840
<v Speaker 2>we're still here.

1:55:31.320 --> 1:55:35.560
<v Speaker 3>And I was very interested in Keith Suter's comment about

1:55:35.600 --> 1:55:36.520
<v Speaker 3>the Shah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, there was a quote from you once again

1:55:39.480 --> 1:55:41.800
<v Speaker 2>where there are no guarantees. I liked that quote too,

1:55:42.120 --> 1:55:45.600
<v Speaker 2>You've given us because that applies to everything I think

1:55:46.000 --> 1:55:50.120
<v Speaker 2>it does. Indeed, quickly, thank you David thank you. Eight

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<v Speaker 2>minutes to three. Hello, Craig Redcliffe, how are you? Thank

1:55:52.760 --> 1:55:54.640
<v Speaker 2>you for your text? And another one came in here,

1:55:54.720 --> 1:55:57.400
<v Speaker 2>but I didn't get a name for who sent this.

1:55:57.920 --> 1:55:59.880
<v Speaker 2>I heard the same as you, though, Phil Short a

1:56:00.120 --> 1:56:03.280
<v Speaker 2>day of the year, maybe tomorrow, that's what I thought.

1:56:03.280 --> 1:56:05.440
<v Speaker 2>I heard in the news too, but it may be Saturday,

1:56:05.560 --> 1:56:07.960
<v Speaker 2>June twenty one. I'm not sure that's what Google says

1:56:07.960 --> 1:56:10.440
<v Speaker 2>Saturday June twenty one, so maybe our news meant to

1:56:10.480 --> 1:56:12.360
<v Speaker 2>say that, or maybe they did. Maybe we were only

1:56:12.640 --> 1:56:15.960
<v Speaker 2>half hearing. And thank you for your recipe for potatoes too.

1:56:16.360 --> 1:56:18.960
<v Speaker 2>That's what I had for dinner last night. Surprisingly good.

1:56:19.000 --> 1:56:20.760
<v Speaker 2>I thought if you heard earlier, I thought I was

1:56:20.760 --> 1:56:24.200
<v Speaker 2>in trouble when my wife said we're having potatoes for dinner,

1:56:24.680 --> 1:56:26.640
<v Speaker 2>and I thought, well, what about the rest of it?

1:56:26.840 --> 1:56:30.520
<v Speaker 2>And it turned out was really good. I highly recommend it.

1:56:30.600 --> 1:56:33.000
<v Speaker 2>So we'll talk to Sarah Borer and what she's find

1:56:33.000 --> 1:56:35.240
<v Speaker 2>out what she's got for us this morning in the

1:56:35.280 --> 1:56:37.880
<v Speaker 2>air fryer. I think it's a curry, so we'll find

1:56:37.880 --> 1:56:40.280
<v Speaker 2>out what that is. Maybe we can name that as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Text up a zero four six zero eight seven three

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<v Speaker 2>eight seven three, or you can email us at two

1:56:46.280 --> 1:56:51.720
<v Speaker 2>GB or overnights. I'm sorry at twogb dot com. Hello, Leoni,

1:56:51.880 --> 1:56:54.080
<v Speaker 2>how are you? She says Phil, I really enjoyed the

1:56:54.120 --> 1:56:57.600
<v Speaker 2>interview with Professor Flint. I can't sleep at the moment

1:56:57.640 --> 1:57:00.680
<v Speaker 2>as my three and a half year old grand is

1:57:00.680 --> 1:57:03.440
<v Speaker 2>having a tonsils removed tomorrow. I'm sorry to hear that,

1:57:04.040 --> 1:57:06.200
<v Speaker 2>and I'm having her two year old sister with me.

1:57:06.280 --> 1:57:08.560
<v Speaker 2>I hope everything's okay, but I'm a bit anxious. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's absolutely fine. That is routine. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>having my tonsils out as well when I was about

1:57:14.560 --> 1:57:17.840
<v Speaker 2>probably eight, somewhere between eight and ten, Legoni, although I

1:57:17.880 --> 1:57:21.200
<v Speaker 2>didn't think they did that as much anymore, or maybe

1:57:21.240 --> 1:57:23.360
<v Speaker 2>it's only when you get older they don't take your

1:57:23.400 --> 1:57:25.680
<v Speaker 2>tonsils out by all means. Correct me on the text

1:57:25.680 --> 1:57:29.200
<v Speaker 2>if you can zero four six zero eight seven three

1:57:29.400 --> 1:57:32.160
<v Speaker 2>eight seven three on the text. Do they still take

1:57:32.320 --> 1:57:37.000
<v Speaker 2>tonsils out at a younger age because it was a

1:57:37.440 --> 1:57:39.040
<v Speaker 2>stage there where they just thought, you know, we don't

1:57:39.080 --> 1:57:41.160
<v Speaker 2>need to do this, there's another way around it. And

1:57:41.240 --> 1:57:43.280
<v Speaker 2>I certainly think when you get older. Because a friend

1:57:43.320 --> 1:57:45.400
<v Speaker 2>of mine's a lead singer in a band. His name's

1:57:45.400 --> 1:57:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Brian Molco. He's the lead singer of the English band

1:57:48.400 --> 1:57:53.600
<v Speaker 2>place Ebo. He's had really bad trouble with his tonsils

1:57:53.640 --> 1:57:56.120
<v Speaker 2>for years and years now and they can't take it out.

1:57:56.160 --> 1:57:57.880
<v Speaker 2>And I think he said because he was over a

1:57:57.920 --> 1:58:01.000
<v Speaker 2>certain age, once you get to a certain you can't

1:58:01.040 --> 1:58:03.280
<v Speaker 2>actually have your tonsils out. But I'm not sure when

1:58:03.360 --> 1:58:07.600
<v Speaker 2>that is certainly not in my own profession as a doctor,

1:58:08.040 --> 1:58:09.920
<v Speaker 2>as a surgeon, I don't like to talk about that

1:58:10.000 --> 1:58:13.880
<v Speaker 2>very much. Speaking which Jane Griffiths, the CEO of Day

1:58:13.960 --> 1:58:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Hospitals Australia, will be joining us very soon in the

1:58:16.600 --> 1:58:20.960
<v Speaker 2>next hour to talk about heart surgery. Day hospitals are

1:58:20.960 --> 1:58:23.920
<v Speaker 2>they the way of the future. And the thing that

1:58:23.960 --> 1:58:25.480
<v Speaker 2>you have to think about with this, and I never

1:58:25.520 --> 1:58:29.080
<v Speaker 2>even thought about this is the longer you're in a hospital,

1:58:29.600 --> 1:58:33.040
<v Speaker 2>the more chance you are of contracting something like a virus.

1:58:33.400 --> 1:58:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Whereas if you're in there, in and out in a day,

1:58:36.480 --> 1:58:38.680
<v Speaker 2>then you've got less chance of that. I mean, you

1:58:38.680 --> 1:58:40.360
<v Speaker 2>don't want to go to hospital to get sicker, but

1:58:40.440 --> 1:58:43.520
<v Speaker 2>sometimes that does happen. There's a lot of viruses flying around.

1:58:43.560 --> 1:58:45.600
<v Speaker 2>That's what happened to my dad towards the end. In

1:58:45.640 --> 1:58:48.960
<v Speaker 2>the end with everything else that went was going on

1:58:49.040 --> 1:58:52.080
<v Speaker 2>within kidneys and everything. The problem was that he caught

1:58:52.520 --> 1:58:54.960
<v Speaker 2>RSV I think they call that, and so as a

1:58:54.960 --> 1:58:57.240
<v Speaker 2>result I couldn't actually go and visit him in his

1:58:57.440 --> 1:59:02.760
<v Speaker 2>room because because I'm muno compromise and because he was

1:59:02.920 --> 1:59:05.440
<v Speaker 2>highly contagious. So that's one thing to think about when

1:59:05.440 --> 1:59:08.280
<v Speaker 2>we talk about heart surgery day hospitals. Are they the

1:59:08.280 --> 1:59:11.200
<v Speaker 2>way of the future. Well, that's yeah again one reason

1:59:11.240 --> 1:59:13.120
<v Speaker 2>why if you can get it done in and out

1:59:13.160 --> 1:59:16.160
<v Speaker 2>in a day, then by all means do Peter Vegan

1:59:16.200 --> 1:59:18.280
<v Speaker 2>from four BC Breakfast Joints is a little bit later

1:59:18.280 --> 1:59:20.840
<v Speaker 2>on this morning too, and also we'll catch up with

1:59:20.960 --> 1:59:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Garth Davis, real estate and property expert overseas. Trade's the

1:59:26.080 --> 1:59:30.000
<v Speaker 2>answer to the housing crisis. I think they're offering trade's

1:59:30.200 --> 1:59:33.640
<v Speaker 2>up to ten grand to come to Australia from places

1:59:33.720 --> 1:59:35.880
<v Speaker 2>like New Zealand to come and do the work because

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have enough tradees why. I don't know. These

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<v Speaker 2>are questions that we will have answered a bit later on.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep your text coming through and I'll get to more

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<v Speaker 2>of those just after the news. And some more suggestions

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<v Speaker 2>that you've had as well that i'd like to explore

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<v Speaker 2>for this show. That's all coming up. Let's get to

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<v Speaker 2>the knees.

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<v Speaker 1>On two gb BC and network stations. This is our

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<v Speaker 1>Strougler Overnight with Pill O'Neil.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we are in the middle of winter, in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the night, at seven minutes past three nine

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<v Speaker 2>degrees in Sydney at the moment, but it actually feels

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<v Speaker 2>like four degrees. Haven't clicked under the Brucebane one yet

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll do that in just a moment one three

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<v Speaker 2>one eight seven three if you'd like to give us

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<v Speaker 2>a ring zero four six zero eight seven three eight

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<v Speaker 2>seven three on the text emails overnights at two gb

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. As you know, we've moved Rickmilne, who was

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<v Speaker 2>on once a week to once a month, but also

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<v Speaker 2>opening that up to discussion with you in case you

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<v Speaker 2>want to work, you know, have it as a fortnightly thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Mix said, well, how about the idea of having Rickmilne fortnightly.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we have Nation Nathan Kosch who's on three

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<v Speaker 2>AW and Melbourne with his Pets and Jets segment, so

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<v Speaker 2>he talks about pets and he talks about jets. He's

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<v Speaker 2>an airline pilot but also does pets and they was

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<v Speaker 2>talking to Dale about this and said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>there's probably something in that, not maybe necessarily talking about airlines,

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<v Speaker 2>but certainly talking about pets. And we think that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that's an opportunity for us to do that, to

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<v Speaker 2>keep your suggestions coming through on zero four six zero

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<v Speaker 2>eight seven three eight seven three. I mean, I'm happy to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, put on whatever you like. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>act as a conduit towards your evenings morning's entertainment, so

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<v Speaker 2>you But as I said, the thing that we found

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<v Speaker 2>with Rick was that it was drip feeding when it

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<v Speaker 2>came to getting the calls on the air. So we thought, well,

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<v Speaker 2>let's try and freshen things up. By the way, Brisbane

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen point five degrees at the moment, but it feels

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<v Speaker 2>like thirteen Hello, Gene, how are you? Maybe if Rick

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<v Speaker 2>is promoted the night before or discuss history of various islands, Gene,

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<v Speaker 2>we could do that. But again we did. We just

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<v Speaker 2>found out that it was just grinding along a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit and people knew that the segment was coming up, Gene.

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<v Speaker 2>But nonetheless we're still found that we just weren't getting

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<v Speaker 2>the interaction that the show and the segment used to

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<v Speaker 2>have because perhaps people don't have as much stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>they want to try and find out about how much

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<v Speaker 2>it's worth. But anyway, all of these are thoughts go

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<v Speaker 2>into the consideration the consideration tray, which is metaphorical because

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't exist, But we can make one for you

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<v Speaker 2>if you like to. Hello Dretta on the Central Coast, Phil,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you liked your air fried potato which my

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<v Speaker 2>wife made for me for dinner last night. Gee it

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<v Speaker 2>was nice too, really good, she says. I cook everything

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<v Speaker 2>in air fries, everything from cakes to banana peels. Have

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<v Speaker 2>your wife google the recipe for banana peels. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know that. That's brilliant. What did we do, Deuretta before

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<v Speaker 2>air fries? It's like what did we do before the

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<v Speaker 2>mobile phone? Air fry is one of the greatest inventions

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<v Speaker 2>of the last few years. Just talking about Dale. A

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<v Speaker 2>moment ago, we were outside talking about excuse me, regime

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<v Speaker 2>change in Iran because I said to him when I

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<v Speaker 2>heard the news, I said, look, something's going to go

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<v Speaker 2>on here with Donald Trump, or nothing's going to go on,

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<v Speaker 2>because there's a lot of saber rattling at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Even as a look at Fox News right now, Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump is saying our patients is wearing thin. He's told

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<v Speaker 2>everybody to evacuate two in Tehran. Millions of people took

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<v Speaker 2>that as a good indication to get the heck out

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<v Speaker 2>of Dodge. So something could go on or something may

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<v Speaker 2>not go on. But I was talking to Dale outside

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<v Speaker 2>and we were talking about, you know, regime change. And

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<v Speaker 2>one thing's for sure is you know, democracy won't work.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea of Western democracy won't work. So who knows

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<v Speaker 2>what the getty the endgame is. Hey, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>play Paul McCartney song in just a moment because it's

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<v Speaker 2>Paul McCartney's birthday, and I'd like to get a suggestion

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<v Speaker 2>from you as to what you would like me to

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<v Speaker 2>play to honor Paul McCartney in our Music News segment,

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<v Speaker 2>Would you like something from Wings? I still think the

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<v Speaker 2>Wings was a via superior band to the Beatles, which

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<v Speaker 2>has people up in arms about, you know, me saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like me saying I think Nickelback was a better

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<v Speaker 2>band than Foo Fighters, and I stand by that too,

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<v Speaker 2>But I still like Wings in anything that McCartney did

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<v Speaker 2>with Wings over anything by the Beatles, but also the

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<v Speaker 2>solo stuff could be good too. What would you like

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<v Speaker 2>me to play for Paul McCartney. I'd like to play

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<v Speaker 2>Band on the Run, but that's a bit long. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the only problem with that. And the other one. I

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<v Speaker 2>saw a couple of songs from the Venus and Mars

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<v Speaker 2>album from Paul McCartney I thought might be quite good too,

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<v Speaker 2>like letting Go or even Uncle Albert Admiral Halsey because

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<v Speaker 2>there was a anniversary of that. So anyway, let me

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<v Speaker 2>know what you think for a Paul McCartney song, a

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<v Speaker 2>Wing song or a Beatles song. Please on the text

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<v Speaker 2>zero four six zero eight seven three eight seven three.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you Wendy?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh, I'm signed, except that I have a feeling that

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<v Speaker 8>we're back in the nineteen thirty nine when Neville Chamberlain

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<v Speaker 8>was denying that Hitler was a threat and he could

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<v Speaker 8>be negotiated with. And here he comes back waving a

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<v Speaker 8>piece of paper saying, we've got pie piece in our time.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that getting off the plane. I think were

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<v Speaker 2>getting on the plane. Yeah, I was getting off the plane.

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<v Speaker 8>Was home.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right. So who's playing the role of him?

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<v Speaker 12>Then?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh, I don't know, maybe somebody like Elba Easy, I

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<v Speaker 8>mean our government denying completely that China and all the

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<v Speaker 8>others are a threat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean he's not living in.

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<v Speaker 8>A full's paradise for too long.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It seems to be that everybody that I talked

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<v Speaker 2>to on this show, including you, Wendy, it's talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the focus isn't on defense for a for Australia. Professor

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<v Speaker 2>Flint talks about it every week too, and as does

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<v Speaker 2>Terry Barnes, and everybody on the phone says, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>our emphasis, our focus has got to be on defense.

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<v Speaker 2>And also somebody suggested perhaps that's why Trump didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't seem that keen to talk to Albanzi because albans

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<v Speaker 2>is not coming with anything in defense of Australia.

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<v Speaker 8>I agree with that. I think that Trump would or

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<v Speaker 8>listen to somebody who talks the way he know what

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<v Speaker 8>Easy talks as an insult or anyone's intelligence.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think? Yeah, what do you think is

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<v Speaker 2>going on at the moment? Then with Donald Trump? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you think that this is all just bluster, a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a saber rattling.

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<v Speaker 8>I really don't know. I mean, I'm not okay, with

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<v Speaker 8>what Trump is doing, he may be trying to hold

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<v Speaker 8>off the inevitable war that going to happen. You can't reason,

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<v Speaker 8>we desp you can't reason with tyrants.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's true.

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<v Speaker 8>They won't listen to reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Although at all. And actually, you know what, even threatening Wendy,

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't doesn't make any difference. Either doesn't because you know.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, we've got to remain to remain for safe. Each

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<v Speaker 8>country's got to remain strong with defenses, and we haven't

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<v Speaker 8>got that. Australia's are sitting duck. Really, it's awful when

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<v Speaker 8>you think of it, but there you go. We've got

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<v Speaker 8>a couple of idiots running the country and that's all

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<v Speaker 8>I've got to say. Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're welcome, and you know you can ring any time.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, Sharon loves hearing you on the air, Wendy,

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<v Speaker 2>so she appreciates that. Are you sure that this is it?

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have anything else that.

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<v Speaker 8>You want to No, I haven't. I'd like to tell

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<v Speaker 8>you that I've got a silent God, it's flipped my

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<v Speaker 8>mind that I've got silent supporters who don't really ring in,

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<v Speaker 8>but they listen to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Mmmm.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you've forgotten something. No, you've forgotten something.

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<v Speaker 8>Did I yes, I forget nound. I'll remind you.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I do know that. But you've forgotten something

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<v Speaker 2>you promised me. Do you remember because I told my

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<v Speaker 2>wife about it. She said to me, Oh, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>bit worried about your feet getting cold and you're getting

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<v Speaker 2>cramps this weekend.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I told you to put your feet on your

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<v Speaker 8>wife's back.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I said, I'm not a pervert. But the other

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<v Speaker 2>thing was, that's not perversion. It is in my house.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a good it's a good reason for a divorce

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<v Speaker 8>at all.

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<v Speaker 2>You promised me, I said to my wife. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>my feet are cold, as she said, okay, we'll go

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<v Speaker 2>into town and we'll get you some bed socks. And

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I don't need any bed socks because Wendy

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<v Speaker 2>is giving me hers.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh, I don't wear bed socks.

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<v Speaker 2>You had said you had some bed socks last time

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<v Speaker 2>we chatted, and you were going to give them to me.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh, yes, yes, you did.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember? You know, I remember. Well, I've been telling

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<v Speaker 2>everybody about Wendy's bed socks and how much I can't

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<v Speaker 2>wait for you to get them to me and.

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<v Speaker 8>Will you just oh, well, I'm sorry about that.

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<v Speaker 2>You were you lying to me, Wendy. You were lying

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<v Speaker 2>to me? You don't have bed socks.

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<v Speaker 8>From worry back here. Really, I'm like, I tell things

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<v Speaker 8>I don't mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I can never trust you again. Could

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<v Speaker 2>you knit me some?

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<v Speaker 8>I know I miss everything up.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye could you knit me some, Wendy?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh I can't knit? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, only because I love you so much. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to let you off. But I've been, I have

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<v Speaker 2>been telling you.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm grad you still lightly, of.

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<v Speaker 2>Course I do. But I'm a bit disappointed because I

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<v Speaker 2>did tell my wife that you know you and I

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<v Speaker 2>almost like we're having an affair. I'm getting your bed socks, and.

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<v Speaker 8>Now that'll be the day. That'll be the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Bless your Wendy. Take care lovely. Bye kay bye bye

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<v Speaker 2>bye bye. Okay, So, eighteen minutes past three, I have

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<v Speaker 2>some suggestions coming through here for the song we should

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<v Speaker 2>play from Paul McCartney to celebrate his birthday. But keeping

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<v Speaker 2>coming through zero four six zero eight seven three eight

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<v Speaker 2>seven three and will make a decision after this twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one minutes past three, We're going to talk about these

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<v Speaker 2>day hospitals where you can go in and have surgery

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<v Speaker 2>and be out in a day. How do they work

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<v Speaker 2>and how does that work with your private health insurance too.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting your suggest for a song to play for

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<v Speaker 2>Paul McCartney on his birthday. Lisa said, photograph by the

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<v Speaker 2>Beatles wasn't photograph, Lisa, Wasn't that a ringo star song?

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<v Speaker 2>And it was a solo ringo star song? I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure about that. Michael says, could you please discuss how

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<v Speaker 2>to air fry potatoes? How about we get Sarah Borer

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<v Speaker 2>to give us a potato air fry recipe. Dale's in

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<v Speaker 2>and Dale was just wanting to find out what it

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<v Speaker 2>was that we put on the potato at home, and

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<v Speaker 2>I said lurpak. He said, I've never heard of blurpac,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just presumed it was something that you know

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<v Speaker 2>was vegan. Turns out it's not vegan. It's an English thing.

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<v Speaker 2>My wife's English. So maybe that's where lure pack comes from.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you haven't tried lurpack, give it a go,

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<v Speaker 2>because I tell you it's pretty nice, made with full

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<v Speaker 2>cream milk. I didn't know that though, because I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>take milk. But you know, beggars can't be beggars can't

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<v Speaker 2>be choosers when it comes to potatoes that well know

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<v Speaker 2>one known saying it's a good Wings McCartney song. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you Duncan for that suggestion too, Geen. I haven't heard

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<v Speaker 2>the segment that we were talking about, but Jean says

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<v Speaker 2>she doesn't like it when it's on in Melbourne on

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend, so she's not a big fan of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't heard it the guy that does the Jets

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<v Speaker 2>and the Cats or the Jets and Pets. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna have a listen to it. But if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's a good idea, Geene, well I might

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<v Speaker 2>even go with your suggestion there too. Also, Sharon says,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need an air fryer. This one coming up

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<v Speaker 2>from Mick Pau McCartney coming up would be a good

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<v Speaker 2>song to play for his birthday. Winter Solstice is on

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty first, twelve forty two pm. To be exact,

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<v Speaker 2>how much time do we lose Mick? Is it something

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<v Speaker 2>just like a second or something like that? Let me

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<v Speaker 2>know about that. Another text that come just came through

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<v Speaker 2>from Michael. Let me roll it from Michael, he says

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<v Speaker 2>that's a good one too, Paul McCartney song, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>looking for one? Hello, justin how are you this warning

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<v Speaker 2>in Blacktown? How's the temperature made?

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<v Speaker 7>It's pretty chilly. It's pretty chilly, that's for sure. But

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<v Speaker 7>used to being a night shift worker. But anyway, so

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<v Speaker 7>are you working?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you working at the moment? Mate?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 7>No, no, not at all, not at all, so but

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<v Speaker 7>used to the hours just in the way, And yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I was just wondering about, Well, I have a bit

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<v Speaker 7>of a theory with Trump and him leaving the G

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<v Speaker 7>seven and this dramatic, dramatic exit. I just I really

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<v Speaker 7>think this has been a set up from the start

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<v Speaker 7>with Netting. How are you visiting Trump in mid twenty

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<v Speaker 7>twenty four at Mari Lago? I mean, I think this

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<v Speaker 7>has all been pre arranged. I mean, to me, on

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<v Speaker 7>the surface, it looks like Israeli is sort of winning

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<v Speaker 7>this conflict, and I think they just don't have the

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<v Speaker 7>weapons to destroy the nuclear facilities. I think this is

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<v Speaker 7>all pre arranged.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean it's easy to be skeptical, and

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<v Speaker 2>understandably so, because you know, we live in dangerous times

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<v Speaker 2>and we have every right to be skeptical about this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd had saw I saw somewhere talk of a bunker buster. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the bunker buster is something that can do the work

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<v Speaker 2>that they want if they need to. In terms of

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<v Speaker 2>the Iran's nuclear program, I'm led to believe it's underneath

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<v Speaker 2>concrete that Israel perhaps don't have the equipment to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>that perhaps the Americans do. That just came up as

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<v Speaker 2>a fleeting story and it didn't really have that much

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<v Speaker 2>substance to it. Do you think maybe that's what's on

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<v Speaker 2>the cards here?

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<v Speaker 7>Look, I have no doubt. I think if you really

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<v Speaker 7>take a standback and have a look, there is no

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<v Speaker 7>way Israel would undertake this if they didn't have the

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<v Speaker 7>pre arranged capacity to take out the nuclear types, I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>neither deep underground. Sure three or four bunker busters would

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<v Speaker 7>come and do it, and you know, maybe one of

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<v Speaker 7>the mother of all bombs, you know, at the end,

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<v Speaker 7>and that will just take it right out. But I

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<v Speaker 7>think that might not be exactly right. But I really

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<v Speaker 7>think this is the plan, and I think this has

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<v Speaker 7>been well. When does the head of a country like

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<v Speaker 7>net and you go in and then visit the ex

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<v Speaker 7>president of the United States, who's who is trying to

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<v Speaker 7>become the president at his own personal residence for a

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<v Speaker 7>big meeting.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, maybe curry favor and head your bets

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<v Speaker 2>just in case would be one of my suggestions.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, But I mean, I don't think I think the

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<v Speaker 7>secrecy will be enough that this could never be proven. Perhaps,

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<v Speaker 7>But I mean, I think common sense sort of comes

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<v Speaker 7>into this argument a little, just a little, and I

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<v Speaker 7>think that you would. I think the the biggest question

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<v Speaker 7>is would Israel undertake this venture knowing that they couldn't

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<v Speaker 7>take those sites out? And I'm just sort of thinking

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<v Speaker 7>to myself, well, I think that, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>I think Israel's desire to get rid of their capacity

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<v Speaker 7>to have nuclear weapons is a reasonable sort of planned

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<v Speaker 7>considering what Iran has stated that their goal is to

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<v Speaker 7>eliminate the Israeli state. So you know, when you talk

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<v Speaker 7>to your dictators, like in Iran, you listen to what

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<v Speaker 7>they tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>Threat I hear what you're saying. But you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>other thing is and I read because I've been reading

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<v Speaker 2>loads and loads and loads about this, and one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things I read the other day was just an

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<v Speaker 2>opinion piece that said that this in a lot of ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds very similar to the approach to the weapons of

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<v Speaker 2>mass destruction, which you know was the reason to a

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<v Speaker 2>war in a Raq, which you know, depending on whatever

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<v Speaker 2>way you want to dissect, that could have been about

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<v Speaker 2>the oil. Could also have been about regime change, and

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<v Speaker 2>regime change is being bandied around. If the idea was

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<v Speaker 2>for regime change, then coming up with the root, well,

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<v Speaker 2>coming up with the roofs that you know they've got

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear weapons, then you have then you have essentially what

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<v Speaker 2>we were duped into. And I'm not saying this is

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<v Speaker 2>the case, and I don't know, and this was just

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<v Speaker 2>an opinion piece, but you know, could it be perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>another smoke screen?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I think there's one essential difference between the two.

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<v Speaker 7>I think with the Raq most definitely the world was

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<v Speaker 7>duped into that and the UN was duped and in.

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<v Speaker 3>Lots of ways.

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<v Speaker 7>But I think in this case, I mean, you've got

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<v Speaker 7>It's not like Saddam his saying was coming out saying

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<v Speaker 7>he had weapons of mass destruction, was going to unleash it.

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<v Speaker 7>And look, I think in this case you've got the

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<v Speaker 7>run saying we want nuclear weapons, and there's lots of people,

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, these are agencies which are saying that they

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<v Speaker 7>are getting very close. And you've got to remember there's

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<v Speaker 7>also been the Russians coming in. They're allies with the Run.

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<v Speaker 7>They've been coming in and potentially I can't speak for sure,

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<v Speaker 7>but the word on the ground was that they are

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<v Speaker 7>helping them, and if not materially, at least in the

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<v Speaker 7>information technology space. So look, I think there is a

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<v Speaker 7>difference there, and I think that you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 7>think there's any deception in regards to Iran's desire to

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<v Speaker 7>get a nuclear weapon, but.

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<v Speaker 2>How much I think the thinking is how much do

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<v Speaker 2>you know? How fine down the track are they really down?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, are they days away or are they months away?

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<v Speaker 2>Or are they years away from actually having.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, look, the UN an agency Atomic agency has said

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<v Speaker 7>that they are a fair way down the train, So

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<v Speaker 7>that's I mean. I can't see the UN falsifying that information.

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<v Speaker 7>I just can't. I think we have to remember this

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<v Speaker 7>has been an ongoing contentious issue for fifteen years. And

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<v Speaker 7>if you think to yourself, let's go back to two thousand,

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<v Speaker 7>what was it, two thousand and seventeen, I think that

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<v Speaker 7>the JOC forgotten the name of it. The JOC deal

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<v Speaker 7>with Obama was called off by Trump, and I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>that's a lot of time under the bridge.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. Yeah, they see, they did seem to be

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<v Speaker 2>making inroads, and I think that, you know, there was

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<v Speaker 2>also a lot of politics in terms of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Trump wanting to just overturn that decision because he just

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps didn't like the fact that Obama was making in

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<v Speaker 2>roads there. But I just I'm reminded of and you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the UN when they were pursuing I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was the fourteen the Amendment fourteen forty one, which

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<v Speaker 2>was where they were trying to find out whether or not,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, under the ruling fourteen forty one, they weren't

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to have chemicals of male weapons of mass destruction

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<v Speaker 2>in Iraq. But it was actually and I think you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think Saddam Hussein said that they did have

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<v Speaker 2>weapons of mass destruction. It was Colin Powell who went

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<v Speaker 2>to the United Nations. They held up a vile of

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<v Speaker 2>anthrax and he said, look, this is what we're up against.

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<v Speaker 2>And then down the track he said, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I hadn't said that, because we were you know,

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<v Speaker 2>fed false information. It's hard to know who's got one,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know nobody's going to be transparent about it either.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I think the I think that situation in the

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<v Speaker 7>UN with Colin Power one hundred percent. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 7>even set up a witness from Rock to verifyle this

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<v Speaker 7>where she's come out later and stated that she was persuaded,

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<v Speaker 7>if you want to put it that way. Look, I

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<v Speaker 7>mean I think they said these are two thuations. I

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<v Speaker 7>think during an analogy between the two, I think they're

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<v Speaker 7>not analogous. I think they're apples and oranges.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but Iran has openly stated they want nuclear weapons.

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<v Speaker 7>The UN Atomic Agency says, yes, they're further down the path.

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<v Speaker 7>And you know, I can't say whether or not that

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<v Speaker 7>information is corrupted by the Americans or Israelis, but I

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<v Speaker 7>think the UN generally generally and only came generally so far.

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<v Speaker 7>I think the Atomic Agency is pretty straight up. I

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<v Speaker 7>don't think that they're corrupted. I mean, that's just I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>to go to that argument, you'd have to suggest that

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<v Speaker 7>the UN Atomic Agency is corrupted.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think it's reasonable to assume that they are

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<v Speaker 7>further along. I don't know if they're only as the

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<v Speaker 7>Israelis have stated six weeks away and all this sort

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<v Speaker 7>of stuff, but or whether the Israelis have corrupted their

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<v Speaker 7>information influencing Trump. I mean, that's that's another angle that

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<v Speaker 7>you could look at. But I think that I don't

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<v Speaker 7>think it's anything like that other situation. I think that

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<v Speaker 7>analysis was pretty misplaced.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thet it go.

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<v Speaker 2>I better go. But mate, I really appreciate your calling

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<v Speaker 2>through justin ring any time. Mate, It's nice to have

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<v Speaker 2>a great chat with you. I'm going to get to

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<v Speaker 2>work this and then get back to your music news

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<v Speaker 2>and more of your text. But I just remember article

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen forty one, I think it was called going back

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<v Speaker 2>to two thousand and three, and I remember the United

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<v Speaker 2>Nations Chief Inspector was he called Hunts Blicks I think

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<v Speaker 2>from memory, I remember him running around saying, you know

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<v Speaker 2>that the hang on you just being a bit too

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<v Speaker 2>soon here, you know, let's try and get some more

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<v Speaker 2>information sort of remember that period quite quite clearly. Strangely enough,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, three thirty three, twenty seven minutes to four

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<v Speaker 2>in the old school. Do you want to know what

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<v Speaker 2>it's like down the south coast, Well, John will tell

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<v Speaker 2>you freezing zero point eight degrees, but it feels like

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<v Speaker 2>two point three more of your text emails coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>And also we'll get to the song that you've suggested,

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<v Speaker 2>so in music news we can celebrate Paul McCartney's birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you this morning? Anyway? And it's pretty cold

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<v Speaker 2>out there in the middle of the week. It's Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 2>heading towards the weekend, it's nearly hit that downhill stage,

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<v Speaker 2>but we've still got a bit to go yet. Hello, Gene,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you phil? Why with all the construction companies,

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<v Speaker 2>Jean says on the text, why have they gone bust?

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<v Speaker 2>Where have all the workers on these jobs gone? That

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<v Speaker 2>is a damn fine question, Gene. I was thinking exactly

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing. And we're going to talk about this

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit later on this morning with Garth Davis,

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<v Speaker 2>who's a real estate and property expert, because they're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get overseas tradees to come and fix our housing crisis,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're offering them ten thousand dollars. As you say,

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<v Speaker 2>way to pay ten thousand dollars? That's crazy. And also

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for the suggestion for all you need is love,

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<v Speaker 2>Gene too for a port mcartney, Well, I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 2>which song we're going to get too into a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's exactly what I thought, Geane, because okay, tid yaka.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'd be a laborer, even at my age now

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<v Speaker 2>if this ended tomorrow, I've often thought, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to do, something like laboring, and anybody it's

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<v Speaker 2>a labor or a trade would go, are you're kidding?

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<v Speaker 3>Mate?

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<v Speaker 2>It's hid yaka? You know what? It's good. Honest's work though, too,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it. And I can't go into the it area,

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<v Speaker 2>and nor would I want to, but I would. I

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<v Speaker 2>would shovel stuff if I needed to. I've got no

2:24:31.240 --> 2:24:33.400
<v Speaker 2>skills in anything else. I can't build anything, forget that.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you just came to you know, like digging

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<v Speaker 2>holes or things like that, or you know, like laying

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<v Speaker 2>bricks or something that I could actually do, I would

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<v Speaker 2>do that. And I quite happily do this. And Dale,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, said he'd be a postman. And I've

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<v Speaker 2>also thought about that, you know, the idea of doing

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<v Speaker 2>honest work. To me, Jean, it sounds like a really

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<v Speaker 2>really good idea too. And after forty five years, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>ready up this ends. I don't think i'll go back

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<v Speaker 2>into I think I'll go and do something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>which is honest work. So I'm really interested, Genas. And

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<v Speaker 2>the money is good too, isn't it. So I'm really

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<v Speaker 2>interested to talk about this a little bit later on

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<v Speaker 2>this morning, Gene to find out, you know, why it

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<v Speaker 2>is that we need overseas tradees and we'll take some

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<v Speaker 2>calls on that too. Hello, Bruce, how are you Seven

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<v Speaker 2>countries already have nuclear weapons? Iran would make it eight,

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<v Speaker 2>he says on the text, and Iran would make sure

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<v Speaker 2>the other countries had nuclear weapons as well. How would

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<v Speaker 2>the world function if twelve countries had it? That's unclear?

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<v Speaker 2>Chris said, Hello, Chris, how are your buddy? Regarding our

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<v Speaker 2>military position? I agree with Wendy. I was born during

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<v Speaker 2>World War Two and saw the horrors of the Vietnam War.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, Albanizi refuses to act against the

2:25:43.080 --> 2:25:47.440
<v Speaker 2>fake Palestinian compatriots he has fostered in our midst and

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<v Speaker 2>due to his pretend cohesive action the voice and he's

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<v Speaker 2>done nothing to help the outback tribes live any better.

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<v Speaker 2>The man's a fraud, a perfect example or exemplar, as

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<v Speaker 2>you say, of the Peter principle shown in every statement

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<v Speaker 2>he makes, and I know you meant to say exemplar

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<v Speaker 2>to Chris, and I would never argue with that. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't offer our people ten thousand dollars. There's somebody on

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<v Speaker 2>the text, are you an employer, because by all means

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<v Speaker 2>bring me a little bit later. I'd be interested to

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<v Speaker 2>see how employers would feel too, in terms of getting

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<v Speaker 2>overseas tradees to try and fix our housing problems. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's not disagree with that. Yes, we do have housing problems.

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking about lure Pack before. Lure Pack is

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<v Speaker 2>the same butter they use on a well known cooking show.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that sid Wayne and Duncan said lure

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<v Speaker 2>Pack is a Danish brand. Well, we've certainly got Dale

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<v Speaker 2>on board with the potato and the lure pack. So

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<v Speaker 2>we'll give you an answer as to what he thinks

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<v Speaker 2>about that a little bit later on. Let's get to

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<v Speaker 2>today's music news, and we'll talk about which song I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to play from Paul McCartney as suggested by you,

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<v Speaker 2>because it is Paul McCartney's birthday today, born in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>forty two. Other news that we have nineteen seventy seven

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<v Speaker 2>on this day, June eighteen, was that Fleetwood Mac's song

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<v Speaker 2>Dreams went to number one on the Top one hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Was the only song to top that chart, the Hot

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred. I didn't know that. I thought that Fleetwood

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<v Speaker 2>Mac would have had loads of number one songs. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>a game changer. Eighteenth of June nineteen forty eight, Columbia

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<v Speaker 2>Records started the first mass production of the thirty three

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<v Speaker 2>RPM thirty three revs per minute long player. The new

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<v Speaker 2>format could contain a maximum of twenty three minutes of

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<v Speaker 2>music beside, versus the three minutes that you could get

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<v Speaker 2>on the old seventy eight RPM disc. So an annivers thary,

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<v Speaker 2>the records still going. It's cost more than a CD

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<v Speaker 2>these days. Who would have thought that records would out

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<v Speaker 2>last CDs? Isn't that crazy? And here's another one for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Van Morrison, Cindy Lauper, and Toby Keith were among the

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<v Speaker 2>inductees into the Songwriters Hall of Fame at a star

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<v Speaker 2>starded galas a gal in New York City. Grateful Dead's

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry Garcier was also inducted posthumously, alongside the band's Robert Hunter.

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<v Speaker 2>Just on the subject of Van Morrison. Then that was

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fifteen. Van Morrison was under a record contract with

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<v Speaker 2>his record company and he didn't want to keep writing

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<v Speaker 2>the kinds of songs that they wanted him to write.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a very prickly character, Van Morrison, so he said,

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<v Speaker 2>and they said you still owe us a record. So

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<v Speaker 2>he said, okay, I think they said you still owe

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<v Speaker 2>us three records. So went into the studio, I had

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<v Speaker 2>a bottle of whiskey and banged out three albums to

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<v Speaker 2>get out of the recording contracts. And he said, here

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<v Speaker 2>you go, here's your records. Didn't write any songs, he

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<v Speaker 2>just said, Roll had his band with him. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>give you an example of one of the songs that

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<v Speaker 2>Van Morrison did. I'll just play a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>it that he gave to the record company and said,

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<v Speaker 2>here you go, here's your album. Now I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>be out of this contract. I'm going to go and

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<v Speaker 2>do the music that I want to do. So here's

2:28:58.680 --> 2:29:00.520
<v Speaker 2>one of the songs, or part of one of the

2:29:00.520 --> 2:29:03.879
<v Speaker 2>songs that Van Morrison gave to his record company. I

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<v Speaker 2>can see better look on your face that you've got rangworm.

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<v Speaker 2>Song's called Breenworm.

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<v Speaker 15>I'm very sorryber, I have to tell you that you've

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<v Speaker 15>got rangworm.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine the record company's face when they heard that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>birthdays Paul McCartney and also Nathan Cavalary. Do you remember

2:29:33.120 --> 2:29:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Nathan Cavaliery? Do you remember when he was on the

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<v Speaker 2>charts with the song Little Egypt. This is going to

2:29:38.160 --> 2:29:40.959
<v Speaker 2>make you and me feel really old, But little Nathan

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<v Speaker 2>Cavalery who I think Tommy Emmanuel might have been his mentor. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>it's his birthday today. He's forty three, cricky, How old

2:29:49.800 --> 2:29:54.280
<v Speaker 2>do you feel now? He's forty three? He was a kid,

2:29:54.320 --> 2:29:58.840
<v Speaker 2>he was nine. Anyway, it's his birthday. Alison Moyer, she

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<v Speaker 2>was out here recently in Yazoo. She did some shows

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<v Speaker 2>in Australia. It's her birthday and a couple of anniversaries.

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<v Speaker 2>The Beatles performed their first Australian concerts at Sydney Stadium

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen sixty four. Oh mate, Bob Rodgers would have

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<v Speaker 2>been there. They played four more shows on June nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty before flying to New Zealand. Imagine that nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>sixty four in Australia. The amount of excitement that there

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<v Speaker 2>would have been going on because Paul McCartney and the

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<v Speaker 2>other guys were in Australia on this day in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>sixty four. Were you one of the people who couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>sleep with the possibility of meeting your favorite Beatle maybe

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<v Speaker 2>going to the concert, maybe you had concert tickets. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>that was a moment in time, wasn't it. And part

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<v Speaker 2>of that was Paul McCartney. It's Paul McCartney's birthday today.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a whole bunch of songs that people suggested

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<v Speaker 2>that I play. I'm going to play the one that

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<v Speaker 2>David and somebody else, so I think this one actually

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<v Speaker 2>got two so that's something I got. Only two were matching,

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<v Speaker 2>which for me is a majority in this case to

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<v Speaker 2>play this song. What a terrific song. Happy birthday, Paul McCartney.

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<v Speaker 2>Here he is with wings and this song is called

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<v Speaker 2>My Love. What a terrific song. Both said, not many

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<v Speaker 2>people would have been born in the middle of World

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<v Speaker 2>War Two like Port McCartney.

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<v Speaker 3>And out of.

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<v Speaker 2>The four Beatles, ringos the worst trauma, it's freddod Bogue.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy birthday, Paul McCartney. What a good song. That is

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<v Speaker 2>one a lovely song that is for the rock in

2:31:23.120 --> 2:31:25.240
<v Speaker 2>your life. I'd like to dedicate that to my wife

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<v Speaker 2>because things have been a bit tough lately and she's

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<v Speaker 2>been like a rock. And I'm sure that you've got

2:31:30.680 --> 2:31:33.040
<v Speaker 2>somebody in your life too that's been able to support

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<v Speaker 2>you like that. So let's dedicate that song not just

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<v Speaker 2>a Paul McCartney on his birthday, but to the person

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<v Speaker 2>in your life who is your love, who is your

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<v Speaker 2>rock as well? All Right, I love Medicaport. You know

2:31:43.080 --> 2:31:45.480
<v Speaker 2>who we haven't got to yet. She ain't cooking a rock,

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<v Speaker 2>but I tell you what she's got something that we

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<v Speaker 2>can't wait to get our teeth into, and that would

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<v Speaker 2>be Sarah Bora. With today after this the recipe of

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<v Speaker 2>the day, eight minutes to four, here comes Sarah Bora.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's find out what she's got cooking for us. You're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to believe this, Sarah Bora. But last night

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking to Russell set right down Natural Path,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said that curry and some curry dishes are

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<v Speaker 2>good for getting rid of cognitive decline.

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<v Speaker 16>Oh I'm hoping I'm set for life then, because I

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<v Speaker 16>love a curry.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that brings us to tonight's recipe. What have you got?

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<v Speaker 16>It sure does this is you know me, I really

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<v Speaker 16>like an easy midweek meal. This is it and it

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<v Speaker 16>packs in the edge as well. It's a colieflower curry

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<v Speaker 16>with hallomy in it as well. It's got the Corma

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<v Speaker 16>flavors in, so a really nice Indian curry and it's

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<v Speaker 16>so quick and easy. You want to start off by

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<v Speaker 16>getting all of your ingredients prepared, so dice a large onion.

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<v Speaker 16>You need one hundred and forty grams of tomato paste,

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<v Speaker 16>two tablespoons of Cormer curry powder. I'd never bought the

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<v Speaker 16>pre mixed curry powder before, but it was really easy

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<v Speaker 16>to get from the supermarket. And you could get a

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<v Speaker 16>really good one too that had all of the fol

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<v Speaker 16>spices in it, so you knew that it was good.

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<v Speaker 16>You need a medium head of colieflour trimmed into its floorrets,

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<v Speaker 16>four hundred grams of polluomy cush into bite sized pieces,

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<v Speaker 16>and then four hundred mili of coconut milk. Start off

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<v Speaker 16>by heating two tablespoons of gee or flavorless oil. If

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<v Speaker 16>you don't have g which is just a clarified fater,

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<v Speaker 16>you can just use as I said, a flavorless oil

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<v Speaker 16>but doesn't taste like anything, so you don't want to

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<v Speaker 16>be adding any extra flavors to the dish, so maybe

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<v Speaker 16>an olive oil would work. Put that in a large

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<v Speaker 16>frying pan, place it over medium heat once it's hot.

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<v Speaker 16>And I used to pots of this because I had

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<v Speaker 16>too much coulieflour to do in the frying pan, So

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<v Speaker 16>either all works. When it's hot. Add in your onion,

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<v Speaker 16>saute that until it's soft and translucent. Add in your

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<v Speaker 16>curry powder and cook that off just for about a

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<v Speaker 16>minute and so that it's coating the onion. Add in

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<v Speaker 16>your tomato paste and then cook it until the paste

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<v Speaker 16>darkens ever so slightly. It'll take out that bit flavor,

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<v Speaker 16>so you want that to change in color and make

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<v Speaker 16>sure it's coating the onion. Adding your cauliflower florrets and

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<v Speaker 16>the recipe sets adding the hallumi at this stage, but

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<v Speaker 16>I found that it really broke up, so adding the

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<v Speaker 16>hallumi later. So adding your cauliflour, cook it for a

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<v Speaker 16>few minutes, and then once that's kind of starting to soften,

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<v Speaker 16>adding your four hundred mills of coconut milk. Do it

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<v Speaker 16>gently to combine and let it simmer for at least

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<v Speaker 16>ten minutes or until the curry has reduced down. The

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<v Speaker 16>sauces thickened, and you want the coulieflour to be really

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<v Speaker 16>edible as well, So I like to be able to

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<v Speaker 16>put a fork in there. And once you can break

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<v Speaker 16>the florests apart easily with a fork, that's when you

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<v Speaker 16>know it's easily ready to go. About five minutes into

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<v Speaker 16>that ten minutes, when it's reducing, I would add in

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<v Speaker 16>the halluomi. I would suggest adding it in a little

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<v Speaker 16>bit later than the recipe suggests, just so that it

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<v Speaker 16>doesn't break apart. The first time I did this, you

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<v Speaker 16>kind of end up with a mush which still tasted fine.

2:34:57.320 --> 2:34:59.800
<v Speaker 16>But to be able to actually have the hallumi in

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<v Speaker 16>those bite sized pieces, I would add it in a

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<v Speaker 16>little bit later. If your sauce is reducing too thickly

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<v Speaker 16>quickly though, turn down the heat a little bit and

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<v Speaker 16>add in a splash of boiling water to loosen it up.

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<v Speaker 16>The recipe suggests that you can serve it with rice

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<v Speaker 16>and nane. We just had ours with nane and it

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<v Speaker 16>was absolutely delicious and it's good. Heat it up the

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<v Speaker 16>next day as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Brilliant. Have you got a name for it?

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<v Speaker 10>Oh?

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<v Speaker 16>My one is really boring. It's just a halloomy cauliflower corma.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's lucky, You've come to the right guy.

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<v Speaker 16>Then my favorite part of the segment.

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah's Hello, loumy good Karmacorma.

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<v Speaker 16>That was a good one. I was. I was trying

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<v Speaker 16>all afternoon to think of some really good titles for

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<v Speaker 16>this one, and I just I'm not as good as you.

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<v Speaker 16>I can't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're lucky because the other name that I was

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<v Speaker 2>I came up with was karmacorma chameleon.

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<v Speaker 16>That was the only thing I could do. But it

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<v Speaker 16>was and as good as that. I was just thinking

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<v Speaker 16>of corma chameleon, but I was like, no, it's not

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<v Speaker 16>going to cut it. It's not good enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Good to torture Sarah and check out the website for

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<v Speaker 2>the recipes as well for that. Let's get to the

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<v Speaker 2>news after this. Four minutes, four newspapers after this, Let's

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<v Speaker 2>get to the news.