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Speaker 1: This is the real footy podcast. Thanks for joining us

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Speaker 1: to tip around twelve and this has a bit of

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Speaker 1: a special show because it's not only a tipping only one.

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Speaker 1: We're going to go back and have a look at

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Speaker 1: the teams we drafted in the preseason, how they're going.

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Speaker 1: So I'm joined by well, I'm Andrew Wus it'll be

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Speaker 1: aware of I've joined today by Peter Ryan and Libby Birch.

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Speaker 1: How are we?

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Speaker 2: I'm good. It's great to have Libby on board. Took

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Speaker 2: us well to get there, will we? But that's all right.

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Speaker 3: Excited to be back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good to have you here, Libby. I know

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Speaker 2: that we welcome anyone who's a long way off the

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Speaker 2: pace in the tipping just to come in and just

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Speaker 2: cop it.

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Speaker 3: I'm staying off.

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Speaker 4: I had to do some mindfulness before coming on the

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Speaker 4: show because I was so disappointed in my weekends tipping.

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Speaker 2: What's a mindfulness consists of just staring at the mirror.

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Speaker 4: Thinking about I'm taking risks being on the bottom. So

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Speaker 4: that's why my tipping was so poor the weekend. I'm

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Speaker 4: trying to climb the ladder.

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Speaker 1: It's hard. You're doing this and t north every week,

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Speaker 1: so maybe we should do it the no North Melbourne

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Speaker 1: to get more accurate.

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Speaker 2: Wow, it would be a really good idea, except that

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Speaker 2: it would make us look less superior and tipping.

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Speaker 1: We shouldn't do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good, good to have you here, Libby. There's

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Speaker 2: a footy training game.

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Speaker 3: It's good.

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Speaker 4: It's exciting to be back. Afl W season will be

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Speaker 4: around really shortly. We've got our first game on the

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Speaker 4: fourteenth of August, the opening game between collinwo and Carlton.

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Speaker 3: Which would be great and it's going to come around

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Speaker 1: Two and earth MUDs fingers crossed. You have a bit

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Speaker 1: of pre season than last year, although it didn't.

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Speaker 4: Really hurt you at the end of the No, it didn't,

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Speaker 4: but it'd be nice to have a six weekly injury

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Speaker 2: So hangover premiership hangover.

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Speaker 3: Well we are.

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Speaker 4: We've got Darren Crocker as our coach and that is

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Speaker 4: definitely not in his vocabulary to have a premiership hangover,

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Speaker 4: so we're doing everything we can not to have that.

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Speaker 4: I've been in two teams that are probably had one,

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Speaker 4: so I know the signs and the feelings and everything

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Speaker 4: like that. But it'll be an interesting year.

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Speaker 2: For sure, you've.

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Speaker 1: Vowed after your tenth drink, we're not going to have

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Speaker 1: a hangover next year.

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Speaker 3: Not much of a drinker, so maybe after my first

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Speaker 3: I'm like, well, we I.

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Speaker 1: Have no premierships to be hungover with. Unfortunately, apart from.

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Speaker 3: My yeah, I was just going to say, apart from.

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Speaker 1: From my dipping prem ship a few years ago, I'm

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Speaker 1: still living on that. We'll start with there, the mid

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Speaker 1: season check in of our teams. I've been looking forward

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Speaker 1: to doing this, not so much in well. Actually the

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Speaker 1: first few weeks, Pete was actually off to a flyer.

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Speaker 1: Some of these left field recruits were doing well, but

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Speaker 1: some of them have come back to the field through

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Speaker 1: a reminder of what we did first episode of this season,

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Speaker 1: we drafted a team of eighteen, an open draft of

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Speaker 1: current AFL listed players. The goal was to draft the

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Speaker 1: best possible team this year, so it didn't take into

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Speaker 1: account having a builder list, and the winner will be

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Speaker 1: decided by a number of factors, including a popular vote

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Speaker 1: on the whole team and points per player based on

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Speaker 1: whether they get in the All Australian team. That's five points,

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Speaker 1: for playing in the Grand Final, three points for Colin

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Speaker 1: Metal and the Age Footballer of the Year gets two points,

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Speaker 1: which forgotten about that that's open rewarding. I was going

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Speaker 1: to say, we won't go through the eighteen again right now,

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Speaker 1: but you can go back and listen to the draft

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Speaker 1: in episode one. Click the link in the episode notes

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Speaker 1: to see each team in position as the popular vote

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Speaker 1: stands right now. We'll say right now because it may

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Speaker 1: Team Birch thirty seven percent, Team WU thirty seven percent,

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Speaker 1: actually thirty eight percent, which leaves Team Ryan on twenty

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Speaker 2: Me over the line in this idea.

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Speaker 1: Actually, but what'll set with you, Libby? How do you

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Speaker 1: feel your teams going at the moment.

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Speaker 4: Well, I went through my team this morning based on

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Speaker 4: you know, our first sort of ten twelve rounds, and.

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Speaker 3: I've got three players crueled by injury.

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Speaker 4: So mcgovernn he's only played six matches this year, which

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Speaker 3: So that is not good for my key back line. Papply.

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Speaker 4: He has only managed to play three games, and I

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Speaker 3: He's got a fractured here.

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Speaker 4: So hopefully he can come back soon because my team

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Speaker 4: who is averaging four goals a game and he's third

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Speaker 4: pretty happy with how he's performing, considering he's had a

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Speaker 4: some career best numbers in the key back line. Neil

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Speaker 4: Of course, he's averaging thirty disposals and seven point two clearances.

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Speaker 3: Do you want me to stop there? I've got more.

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Speaker 2: Because you've got the two Brownlow wells.

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Speaker 1: At least, well that wasn't a surprise. Nicholas favorite Decos

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Speaker 1: was the favorite.

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Speaker 2: Have you got any other Sydney players or did you?

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Speaker 2: Are you the curse?

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Speaker 3: No, that's that's my only two Sydney players.

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Speaker 2: However, I've got to We've got to the reason why

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Speaker 4: The other player that I thought has been fantastic for

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Speaker 4: twenty nine in the league. So that's a change of

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Speaker 1: So you've got to get him into the Australian team

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Speaker 1: in terms of the points system.

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Speaker 3: Need I need him in there.

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Speaker 2: They are meeting on Tuesday, the Australian first meeting of

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Speaker 2: the year. The panel.

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Speaker 1: Imagine if Libya actually got drafted to that panel, that

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Speaker 1: would throw this whole process into Did you give this.

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Speaker 2: Podcast up or would you continue?

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Speaker 1: You have to clear interest, wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: You I'd be loyal? I think this comes first podcast.

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Speaker 1: Would you guys. The two Swans injuries for you really

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Speaker 1: hurt because not only does it cost them from getting

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Speaker 1: any individual honors, it's hurt the team, their team, and

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Speaker 1: it means you don't.

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Speaker 3: Get any.

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Speaker 2: Ridiculous shot tired, real team going.

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Speaker 1: I'm reasonably happy with the team at the moment. I

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Speaker 1: need I need my Carton players to lift a bit

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Speaker 1: think I had Patrick Cripps as my first pick. That's

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Speaker 1: Charlie at four I think will improve as the season

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Speaker 1: a few more points. Zach Merritz the one I'm really

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Speaker 1: He's leading the Coleman after a bit of a sluggish start.

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Speaker 1: Couzy pick it. That's one. I'm really happy with. Toby

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Speaker 1: Green that a lot of these guys are playing well.

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Speaker 1: Toby Green my forward line Becausey Pigott Grand Mys Tyson

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Speaker 1: Stingle and then Toby Green probably need him to just

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Speaker 2: You're got heaps of good players.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I've got more good players. I don't

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Speaker 1: quite at the moment. Maybe Elia Lee is going.

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Speaker 4: To do a little bit more now, I was a

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Speaker 4: skeptical decision on the day, but.

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Speaker 1: I'm quite happy Sam Taylor, full back, Callen Wilkie, he's

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Speaker 1: Pet You had some wild selections at the start, which

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Speaker 1: was probably a measure of your lack of homework.

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Speaker 4: But I have accept that, I've forgot how many shots.

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Speaker 1: Accept that Darcy and Riley, Philthorpe.

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Speaker 2: For the first month you were I was cocker hoop

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Speaker 2: about those two. What key forwards they were proving to

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Speaker 3: But it could have been really bad but it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't coming back. And still I'm still a bit

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Speaker 2: about that. Nae. Riley, how do you pronounce? I can't

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Speaker 2: say that. Phil Thorpe try to, but it's really difficult.

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Speaker 2: He's been fantastic, he's been on the finds of the season. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and he's emerged, and so I'm very happy with them.

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Speaker 2: But my back line has been and our conservative choices.

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Speaker 2: Jordan Ridley, how would you know? Tom Stewart great man

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Speaker 2: Sam Collins fantastic, Darcy Moore coin Okay, Jackson clear well

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Speaker 2: he plays and Kilda, so no one even knows what

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Speaker 2: he's doing. Well, yeah, that's a good play.

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Speaker 4: Their half back line is actually the only good part

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Speaker 4: of their side, Sinclair and Wangling Mali.

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Speaker 2: Yeah fantastic. So twenty five percent of the votes probably

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Speaker 2: about right.

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Speaker 4: So you're scoring heavily, but you're being scored against all.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting absolutely smashed when they get it out of

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Speaker 2: centerll they Gorn Butters and Jason Horn Francis is not

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Speaker 2: a bad sin Or you know Rock no decision.

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Speaker 1: You need them to under our scoring system to really.

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Speaker 2: Push beyond Darcy and Riley. Phil Thorpe. I haven't followed

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Speaker 2: the back line as closely as maybe I should. And

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Speaker 2: also Bailey Fish, I don't know what I was thinking there.

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Speaker 1: And he's he's done.

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Speaker 3: The COO after spending mid of time in the BFL.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not going to win the Calm and all

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Speaker 2: the make the Grand Final. I wouldn't have thought. And

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Speaker 2: Nick Watson, I'm very happy with my.

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Speaker 3: Back lines all right. Houston, I don't know. He might.

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Speaker 1: He's having he's not having a great season.

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Speaker 2: But you're the fourth All Australian.

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Speaker 2: You you'll get Max Homes, She'll get Grand Final points

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Speaker 1: It's better for North Melbourne, but it's not good for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, I can't bag cheesel. I like cheesel.

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Speaker 1: You don't know?

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Speaker 3: I think we missed a couple of those free players

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Speaker 2: Is what I would describe your team as celebration of media,

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Speaker 4: You're getting what do we think about my my rac

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Speaker 1: Good mark first month. Yeah, but I think the decision

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Speaker 2: Here and there, but the camera and Triste probably no

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Speaker 1: You will You're the list manager, You've got a right.

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Speaker 3: Pick up your game. I want to win this.

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Speaker 1: Any regrets, Pete any busts any.

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Speaker 2: You're picking regret because it embarrasses me, the lack of

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Speaker 1: You Bailey Fridge.

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Speaker 2: We should have We should have points for the Garyers Gary. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Of injuries have hurt yet. I mean, you can't play

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Speaker 2: We should have points for Garrier's best finals player. But

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Speaker 2: It hasn't done much and the Cooma medal should be

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Speaker 1: Well not really. It's really only about six players each

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Speaker 2: And which just shows how hard it is to predictate

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Speaker 1: You're unlucky having what you picked two pont Telly getting

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Speaker 4: I think someone didn't someone requests supplementary draft.

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Speaker 2: I did do that, but was it you? I don't

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Speaker 3: Buy me points on all Australian side.

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Speaker 4: And I don't think the Hawks are performing as well

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Speaker 2: I love the fact you put leadership into a team

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Speaker 2: Dylan Moore's impact is going to be on your team.

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Speaker 2: He's a great player and he is a great leader.

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Speaker 2: He's just he's found themselves, those small forwards at Hawthorne,

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Speaker 1: Really and also whether other clubs have cottoned onto the

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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll take a short break and be back to

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Speaker 1: tip the around.

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Speaker 2: We're online all the time.

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Speaker 1: Just search Age Real Footy on Facebook or Twitter. Welcome back,

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Speaker 1: We'll get straight to the leaderboard like we've had a

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Speaker 1: change of lead at the top. Pete, you're second, that's coming.

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Speaker 2: Into Hawthorne unfortunately, and Michael Gleason tipped Brisbane, which pushed

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Speaker 1: That's yeah. Sometimes you don't want to be the leader

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Speaker 3: You can, you can, you're making a smart move.

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Speaker 1: It does change your It's a big strategy I found

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Speaker 2: Sixty announced it to me on Monday morning. You walk

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Speaker 1: What he said to me last week. You guys, there's

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Speaker 2: I thought he lost his job if you didn't win.

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Speaker 2: He's does he know that? He doesn't know that, does he?

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Speaker 1: Well? That's what he Well, we have he should stay cheering.

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Speaker 1: don't know where I am, but I know I'm on

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Speaker 3: Six second Cannie and I are.

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Speaker 2: Do you have your own little mini battle dude?

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Speaker 3: Yes, definitely, yea, even though we're teammates.

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Speaker 2: It's fair enough. Actually, I look at him as tips

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Speaker 2: It's a big, big sound in the west end of

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Speaker 2: the town and they call at the mighty enough enough

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Speaker 2: apologies for that.

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Speaker 1: We didn't actually say that was the punishment, but anyway, okay,

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Speaker 1: so lesson learn for Pete smart, don't be a yahoo

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Speaker 2: That's true. It was embarrassing and it only occurred to

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Speaker 1: Devastated Carlton shouldn't be a lock against any team at

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Speaker 1: And then they're hitting their heads and suddenly they just

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Speaker 2: I tried to laugh at that.

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Speaker 1: It was very nasty. No, that is nasty, but that

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Speaker 4: then read hammy and then started in hawali Va foul

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Speaker 3: It was coming in.

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Speaker 2: And how good was zingers clak last.

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Speaker 1: this year compared to the previous two seasons, given that

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Speaker 1: they're playing a lot more youth. I felt the first

442
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Speaker 1: two years underbred Scott they were kind of they weren't

443
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Speaker 1: really going anywhere in terms of I mean they were

444
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Speaker 1: having good starts of the season, but by the end

445
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Speaker 1: of the year they wouldn't play finals and they hadn't

446
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Speaker 1: really given all that much. It was exposure to their kids.

447
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 2: Zach rats someone to get excited about it. I was

448
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 2: at the foot on Friday night and there was an

449
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Speaker 2: audible sigh when he went down the rooms with what

450
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Speaker 2: was obviously an injury. People were so disappointed. Who do

451
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Speaker 2: you think, I mean Brisbane you'd think will win?

452
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think Brisbane.

453
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Speaker 4: But I have found this year the efficiency going inside

454
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Speaker 4: fifty is probably well with Champion data, it's the bottom

455
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Speaker 4: six in the camp so that's probably what's been letting

456
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Speaker 4: them down all season. And I feel like the drawer

457
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Speaker 4: against North Melbourne, the loss against Melbourne is something you'd

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Speaker 4: expect from a team that has reached the highest of

459
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Speaker 4: highers last year. But it's not to say they're not

460
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Speaker 4: going to do it again. It's just I think that's

461
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Speaker 4: just the emotional battle of being the hunted.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard locking yell on the radio. You spoke

464
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Speaker 2: well about he actually thought they were playing better this

465
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Speaker 2: time last year, even though they're in worse position. So

466
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Speaker 2: he's confident they can change a few things around and

467
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Speaker 2: you know, gets back to being a dominant team. They're

468
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Speaker 2: obviously missing Danahe well like him.

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Speaker 1: He was at all Australian formed by the end of

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Speaker 1: the season. I mean he was playing at the absolute

471
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Speaker 1: peak of his powers, probably knowing that he was going

472
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Speaker 1: to call it WIT's and a bit of release.

473
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Speaker 2: At the end of the tunnel. I reckon Brisbane will

474
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Speaker 2: win this easily. They poor old es. I mean, you

475
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Speaker 2: can't overcome that many injuries to one, you know, Cohort,

476
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Speaker 2: It's impossible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it would have been half of them

478
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Speaker 1: even without the injuries. And throw this on top. But

479
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Speaker 1: I think they've been pretty honest this year. They had

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Speaker 1: a couple of games that they've been blown out, but

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 2: Overall Adelaide Bulldogs terrible and the rest they've been good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Brisbane will win this.

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Speaker 2: So do I have forty points?

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Speaker 1: I'm going to jump in and make them alf It's good.

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Speaker 2: You obviously like the theme, so.

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Speaker 1: Actually I hadn't thought about that. Oh I'll tell that now.

488
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Speaker 1: It won't matter because.

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Speaker 3: Brit good lines.

490
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Speaker 1: If you if your lock breaks, who's going to cop

491
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Speaker 1: the punishment? Next week? Pete Okay. Second game of the

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Speaker 1: round Friday night for the blockbuster Collingwood against Hawthorne. Two

493
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Speaker 1: clubs who we thought at the start of the season,

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Speaker 1: who many thought at the start of the season would

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Speaker 1: be probably still around prolim final week. I'd still think

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Speaker 1: that's the case with Collingwood. Hawthorne probably not quite as

497
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Speaker 1: confident about that after their last well probably the whole season. Really,

498
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Speaker 1: they haven't really hit the heights of last year yet.

499
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Speaker 1: Do you give them anyone brave enough to tip them

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Speaker 1: this week?

501
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not, but I'm interested in your thoughts.

502
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Speaker 4: No, I have been going with the risky tips to

503
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Speaker 4: try and climb the ladder. It did not work successfully

504
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 4: over the weekend because I had the worst scorecard. However,

505
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Speaker 4: I think this could be a sneaky chance, but you

506
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 4: cannot go past the Pies at the moment.

507
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Speaker 3: The depth of their side is just incredible.

508
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Speaker 4: They banked such early wins, which meant that McCrae could

509
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 4: really start to rest some players and fine tune that

510
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 4: middle part of the season where a lot of teams

511
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 4: get fatigued and build up injuries. So they're going to

512
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Speaker 4: have penalbry More sidebottom and he'll potentially returning.

513
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Speaker 1: So that's so.

514
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I just think that they are a sound

515
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 4: side and when I've watched them this year, the ability

516
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Speaker 4: to have so many different modes of game plan to

517
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 4: go to dependent on how the opposition is turning up

518
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 4: has just been magnificent and something that the other teams

519
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Speaker 4: across the comp I don't I don't think.

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Speaker 1: Have not of this though.

521
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Speaker 2: The defenses, their defense has been fantastic. I'm tipping Collinwood,

522
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 2: but any Collingwood supporter knows that Hawthorne more often than

523
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 2: not beat Collingwood.

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Speaker 1: They certainly did like last time smacked them middle of

525
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: Winter eleven goals. That was probably when Collingwood were out

526
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: there absolute trough in terms of their injury run.

527
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 2: Even in their premiership year when they lost Decros McGinness

528
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: smacked into him. That was a Hawthorne win and most

529
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Speaker 2: Colin supporters would have nightmares about the two thousand and

530
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Speaker 2: twelve to fifteen era.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think there's a period where Buckley just

532
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: couldn't beat But Collingwood, I mean they're the best team

533
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: in at the moment. The last two weeks, I've found

534
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: ways to win despite having injuries. I mean against Freeo

535
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: they somehow won with twenty few were inside fifties. And

536
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: then last week with all that, I mean it was

537
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: sorry Liby, it was against North Melbourne. But not many

538
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: teams can win when they have that much disruption going

539
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 1: into the game, losing players, reasons around Bobby Hills, absence,

540
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. It can be destabilizing and not

541
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: many teams. And then to have the game not played

542
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: in the way you want it to be played, yet

543
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: still find a way to kick away in the last quarter.

544
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Speaker 1: I mean that's really impressive. But how good is Jamie Eli? Yeah,

545
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: six one and five in the last three weeks. He's

546
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: the most of the modern prototype of the forward that

547
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: you want, medium sized who can mark anyway on tip

548
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: in Collingwood three goals.

549
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: On tipp in Collingwood by five points. Oh well, I

550
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 2: haven't got a lot of confidence if Hawthorn g had

551
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 2: enough supply by those smalls could wreak some havoc.

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Speaker 1: They need to toughen up a bit.

553
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, Pies by under ten ten points.

554
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Speaker 1: First game Saturday afternoon, we head up to People's first stadium,

555
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Speaker 1: Gold Coast against Fremantle.

556
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Speaker 2: How many people you reckon they'll get ah, fourteen thousand.

557
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: More than Gold Coast against Saint Kilda. We'll going to

558
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: that later, but Gold Coast three. It's going to be

559
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: hard to tip against gold Coast, is it.

560
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's impossible to tip against gold Coasts at home. Yeah,

561
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Speaker 2: and give that given that there's such a tough unit.

562
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: They've been given so few opportunities by the AFL and

563
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: they've just molded themselves into a great team.

564
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to take I'm going to take the other

565
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: side to that because for what fifteen years, they've had

566
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: many issues at that club and to play retention, but

567
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: no one was so how easy it was for gold

568
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: Coast when players were leaving, were they Now they're winning

569
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: and it's suddenly.

570
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 2: All I don't, I don't. I think both sides had

571
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 2: a point, but it was poorly made by Ross really.

572
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: I mean the reality is the compromise draft is a

573
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: frustration to a lot of supporters and a lot of clubs.

574
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: It is. But you've got to go at the game

575
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: in queens Land.

576
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: It's great, nothing against Gold Coast at all, and I

577
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: reckon they win. I reckon they'll be Freeman or Fremantle

578
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: aren't great travelers.

579
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: What do you reckon? They No, they're not.

580
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 4: But then they're really surprising me this year because they

581
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 4: had that win against WS in Sydney and you think, well,

582
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 4: they can produce their best football away from home, but

583
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 4: it's just been far too inconsistent.

584
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: They're very young, they are, and.

585
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 4: I was watching them the other week and they would

586
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,719
Speaker 4: just go long down the line, say footy, and when

587
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 4: they play safe footy they do not look like winning

588
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 4: at all. But when they do take the game on

589
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,479
Speaker 4: use the corridor, they look really dangerous. With the players

590
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Speaker 4: they have. I think it's the Suns, but I wouldn't

591
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 4: I wouldn't make this a lock.

592
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: No, not lockworthy, but I think I'm going to make

593
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: it a lock. I decided I'm making it a lock.

594
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: You just want to sing the Frio song? Yeah, well

595
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: I even know what the song is. It's very singable,

596
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: That's what it was, an ac DC song. I'm tipping

597
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: the Suns, but I think this.

598
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: Will she's rolling eyes. That's great.

599
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: Next day of the round. Sorry, Greater Western Sydney against

600
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: Richmond Energy Stadium, this is the one. No, we can't

601
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: make Richmond the lock at the moment, but why not? Well, well,

602
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: I think we made that rule.

603
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 3: I was going to make that my lock. No one

604
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 3: told me about that where you.

605
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: Can make them in your lock dispensation.

606
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the Giants, the Giants, the gates. Well, no

607
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: one's gonna tip Richmond.

608
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: Take us through why Giants will beat them? No, No,

609
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: they're been inconsistent or no, because you've done preparation here

610
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: and you know what.

611
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think the Giants have been lacking in

612
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 4: their contest game. In the games that they have haven't won,

613
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 4: they've had sort of a form slump, and it's because

614
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 4: they're not getting it done in the middle of the ground.

615
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 4: And if they're not feeding forwards like Hogan who can

616
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 4: take incredible marks, and you know they're not getting that

617
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 4: forward halftime.

618
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 3: That I really think feeds their games.

619
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 4: So for me, Kingsley's side needs to win the battle

620
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,239
Speaker 4: in the middle of the ground in order to get

621
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 4: it going their way and that's what Fred did at

622
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 4: home to beat them in Sydney. So I think with

623
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 4: Richmond's injuries yep again is now starting to hurt them.

624
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: It's hard for the young teams to travel as well

625
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: on the road. There are only two trips on the

626
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: road this year seventy two point loss sixty one point loss.

627
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: Lynch will come back in nan Curves definitely.

628
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 3: And I don't think Bolts can travel Honey because no.

629
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: No, it's a bit late for him unfortunately. And the

630
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: other thing with the Giants, I mean minus thirty eight

631
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: contested ball against Carlton last week and they lost the

632
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: inside fifty ken again, so it probably gives you an

633
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: idea how badly Carton played well, how badly they use

634
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: the ball. But I think this is a chance for

635
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: the Giants to get a bit of a get their

636
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: form back, ye get an easy, easy game to win.

637
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: I think they'll win by about forty seven points eight

638
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: goals thereabouts.

639
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: I think that's part YEP.

640
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: Next game Sydney against Adelaide SCG Saturday nights. So for

641
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: the AFL loving people in Sydney that can drive from

642
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: Olympic Park to the CG and watch the Sydney doubleheader,

643
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,719
Speaker 1: a bit of mini gathering in Sydney. The Swans geez

644
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: ow disappointing? Are they? I tipped them on Sunday, So

645
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: I'm mixed disappointed and I can't believe I'm saying this,

646
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: but the Swans are at that stage where you're thinking

647
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: which team is going to show up, which is something

648
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: we haven't said about the Swans since well the nineties

649
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: when I was at school.

650
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 4: I'm disappointed in Calum Mills, like it starts. It starts

651
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 4: with their leadership. He's been injured, Like, of course that's

652
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 4: not always your fault, but there's been a couple of

653
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 4: seasons where he's been injured. Then he goes and hits

654
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 4: someone high and has to miss a week, Like that's

655
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,959
Speaker 4: not someone someone you want leading your club or showing

656
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 4: the way, And I just feel like he's letting them

657
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 4: down at the moment, not being on the park.

658
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 3: I know that sounds a bit rough, but not being

659
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 3: out there. He's just got himself back. He's out again,

660
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: So it.

661
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: Could be a line in the sand kind of moment

662
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: for Mills. I reckon as a captain, thinking he wouldn't

663
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 2: have thought about that previously, but now that he's done

664
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: it and another three weeks, he'd be starting to think,

665
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 2: I've got to rain this one.

666
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 3: Though annoying.

667
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can get continuity going to hit the training

668
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: track again. And it was clumsy. It was clumsy by him.

669
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: I don't think he actually meant no. I don't think

670
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: he's not a dirty player. He's always been a ballplayer.

671
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 2: My theory is that John Longmiya held such a tight

672
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: reign on that group, like was such a strong leader

673
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 2: and great coach and experienced coach. Dean Cox is a

674
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: person that's really popular within that foota club and a

675
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 2: good coach. But still learning that there's just watching them.

676
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: I don't know any intel, just watching them. There's like

677
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: they've almost taken a breath out and thought I can

678
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 2: relax a bit. Yeah, I can relax a bit and

679
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: they'll pick and choose. Just there's just a feeling that's

680
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 2: a good point as they get used to.

681
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: Dane Cox because I probably always Jane Cox as the assistant.

682
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a good guy and an easy person to

683
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: talk to with all whatever it was.

684
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: I mean, what's your kind of do you have you?

685
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: What's your psychology? You're and viewing an assistant coach, a

686
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: long time assistant, and then the senior coach leaves. It's

687
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: kind of it's a different relationship.

688
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 3: Well you can.

689
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 4: You just have to watch him John Longmar from the

690
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 4: box to know that he's a intense coach that would

691
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 4: never let anything go.

692
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 3: And I think you'd.

693
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 4: Be quite up tight as a player, which would probably

694
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 4: produce good performances if if channeled in the right direction

695
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 4: as well. And then if Dean Cox was sort of

696
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 4: his balancing board, if that makes sense, If Dean was

697
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 4: a bit more lovely caring on that sort of side

698
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 4: of things. When he steps into the head role, who

699
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 4: is that next person to be the harshness, the person

700
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 4: to say that's not good enough. You can't drop off

701
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 4: after three quarters of effort and not produce in the

702
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 4: last quarter. So I think you've hit the nail on

703
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 4: the head their pete in terms of where's the balance

704
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 4: gone within there?

705
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: I think he's been a good coach. Cox just said

706
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: it's a harsh plus injuries.

707
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 1: On top of all that, the change in the off season.

708
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: It's kind of might just be one of those years

709
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: for Sydney. Adelaide, Yeah, Adelaide for me as well. I

710
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: was hoping you guys would tip Sydney just so good

711
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: pull one back.

712
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 2: But do you want us to?

713
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: It's up to you. I mean, I don't know. I

714
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: think the ones are a chance this week just because

715
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: they were so bad last week that they will want

716
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: to a tone and there's seasons on the line again.

717
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 4: So the only thing is I feel like Sydney's back

718
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 4: line has always been an issue and Adelaide scoring over

719
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 4: half their goals from inside fifty marks, so if their

720
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 4: backs don't bring the ballder ground, Adelaide will smash them.

721
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: And the other thing, Joel Handling playing is a defensive forward.

722
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: I don't know how long that can last.

723
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 2: Jesus had and when you talk about Cox, he's had

724
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: Handling and mccarton playing his key forwards.

725
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: That's a hard road.

726
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Libby Birch playing out of the square.

727
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 4: Don't tell me that short really well, wow, I think

728
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 4: would be a very good.

729
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: Would you like to play?

730
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: Really?

731
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 3: No, I don't think. See that's the thing.

732
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 4: That's that's why your point is true, because I don't

733
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 4: think sometimes backs can't be forwards.

734
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 3: Sometimes they can be.

735
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, both the tough positions. But yeah, this is.

736
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: Hard as a forward.

737
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 3: I'm not answering that question.

738
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: I have a bit of respect.

739
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: Different different skill sets. Melbourne against Saint Kilda, first game

740
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon in.

741
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 4: The Alis Well, I was looking at this and Melbourne

742
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 4: have only actually have a forty percent win rate here,

743
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 4: so it's four and six.

744
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: Uh, and I was surprised by that. But then I

745
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 3: remember some of the defeats.

746
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 4: Some of the the opposition teams that have come and

747
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 4: played there and smashed them. So I think think case

748
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 4: I pick up, being in career best form really helps them.

749
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 4: Who stops who stops him? But I'm going to go

750
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 4: for a whiskey tip here and I'm going to go

751
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 4: to the Saints. I think they have been playing poorly

752
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 4: and they're lacking depth in the midfield. However, I think

753
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 4: with Melbourne's win rate here, there's a chance that they

754
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 4: could get jumped again by the Saints.

755
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 2: That's a brave tip.

756
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: That's very I've got to climb the lot of that's good.

757
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 2: I mean's got no form to speak of in our springs,

758
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 2: So it's good form. Isn't it.

759
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 3: A record?

760
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 2: They might be actually they might be what is it,

761
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: what's the ground called it? They might be parks specialists

762
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 2: and we're just going.

763
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 3: To find Well, that's my that's my shaky tip.

764
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 2: I think Melbourne is starting to play really good football,

765
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: and they're starting with playing still pretenders. Real that the

766
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 2: premissure player for the club as well, that's extraordinary as well.

767
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 3: I haven't, I haven't, I haven't seen.

768
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: Why do you think? Why do you? Honestly, what's your analysis?

769
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 2: Tell you?

770
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: Well?

771
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 4: Because I think that the only reason they're playing well

772
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 4: is because they've got nothing to.

773
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: Lose, right, and now they have something to lose because

774
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: they a foothold in the season.

775
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 4: Started the thinking about it, they lost absolutely everything they could.

776
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 4: They were in the pits of the pits in terms

777
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 4: of media culture, what everyone thought of them, and then

778
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 4: I reckon they would have been like, we've absolutely got

779
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 4: nothing to lose, let's just go out there and play footing.

780
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: However, they were saying that they were trying to develop

781
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 2: a game style that they were struggling with.

782
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but how can how much of that

783
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 3: can you?

784
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by that idea that you're trying to change

785
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: the way you play, because I mean, I don't watch

786
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: footy as closely as well, I haven't watched Melbourne as

787
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: closely as their coaches would clearly. But in the end,

788
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: isn't it just about winning contest and moving the ball?

789
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: And Melbourne started to win.

790
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 2: Contest well, I think they're less selfish. Yeah, well that

791
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: comes to sharing the ball around a bit more. They've

792
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 2: got some of their running players, they're creating more runoff half.

793
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 1: But less selfish is more an attitude rather than actual change.

794
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 2: But Malciam's made a big difference playing in front of

795
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: the ball, I think because he's a team oriented player.

796
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: And I like Windsor and Jad mcveighe's come back only

797
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: in the last few weeks. They're good, and Bear he's

798
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 2: been in great form. And I also like Langford and Lindsay.

799
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: Their ten games into their career, so they're getting better

800
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 2: every game. I think that's where some of the improvements come.

801
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think the preparedness to handle there was

802
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: one play last week Petrarca was streaming through the wing

803
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: and I think he had players either side of him

804
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: and he's shaped to kick it, but then thought no,

805
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: I got a handball. This handball to shop as faster

806
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: and he got the extra fift day meters. But that's

807
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: I think the Melbourne of a month ago probably would

808
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: have gone for that long bomb. And then he's thought, well,

809
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 1: this is the way they got to play, so extra handble,

810
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: isn't it?

811
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 4: Which is the way they're yea and all those It's

812
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 4: been analyzed a lot on footy shows too. I think

813
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 4: that's where the game is going, in terms of being

814
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 4: able to use being able to use your numbers at

815
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 4: the contest or going to your numbers.

816
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 3: Ahead of the footy.

817
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 4: And it's a fine balance of getting overlap so that

818
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 4: you can get deeper entries or just getting it straight

819
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 4: in there to avoid defensive numbers.

820
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: Well makes sense because you've got numbers around the ball

821
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: and you don't use all your extra numbers there, then

822
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: you're kicking it into a spot where you don't have

823
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: the numbers.

824
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: So I just can't. I know, you can't play as

825
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: well as you did last week, But he's going to

826
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: play and cosy picket.

827
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 4: Well, you've got some of the best half back line

828
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 4: in the in the league for the Saints, but.

829
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: They're not great defend they're anyway. I mean, good luck.

830
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 2: I hope you win.

831
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:53,479
Speaker 3: Thanks Pete.

832
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: I don't think it's an interesting it'll be.

833
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 1: It'll be it'll be a big upset of the Saints

834
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 1: can get this done.

835
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 2: It's a risky because she's fifty six or something.

836
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: But it won't be as big en upset as it

837
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 1: would be for West Coast where to beat Geelong this week,

838
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: which is the final game of the un.

839
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: With you, I think Gelong will win.

840
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 3: I no, no, I think I think the Cats will

841
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 3: definitely win.

842
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 4: But I just don't they I spoke about this the

843
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 4: other week, but I don't think the Cats had had

844
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 4: made enough, had had enough wins to warrant the luxury

845
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 4: of resting players, and hence why we saw Dangerfield go down,

846
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 4: which was a shame. But we know that Cameron is

847
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 4: in career best form and they've got the easiest apparently

848
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 4: they've got the easiest home and away fixture towards the

849
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 4: end of the season.

850
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 3: That's going to be interesting.

851
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. I've done a lot of predicting and I think

852
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: Geelong win a lot of games.

853
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, danger probably in hindsight and even ahead of that.

854
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: Shouldn't have played in Adelaide.

855
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 4: No, but I think they just needed to because they

856
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 4: dropped a few games they shouldn't have and they might

857
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 4: catch them up by the end of the year, as

858
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 4: we just said with the fixture. But I think that

859
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 4: was just a decision they had to make.

860
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: Because it's a bit un Geelong lot because they generally

861
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: they're prepared to absorb those losses knowing because they're so

862
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: confident in there in what they have. So Geelong will

863
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 1: win this. But the Eagles are much better to team

864
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: adopt this stadium and they've been more competitive in the

865
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,439
Speaker 1: last month. I mean they gave Adlad a good run

866
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: for a half last week. So okay Geelong for all

867
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: of us, that's all we have time for today. Thanks

868
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: for joining us, Thanks for Libby for coming in.

869
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 3: Team Birch. That needs a bit thirty nine by the

870
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 3: end of the week.

871
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: Don't do that voat team were all the way, Vote

872
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,200
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879
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Speaker 1: and may your team win.