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Speaker 2: yes no question for you in just a second, and
Speaker 2: to do with a wash up from the Woodside decision yesterday.
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you a question and it's around
Speaker 2: what do you think the protesters will do from here?
Speaker 2: I talked to Milsey about it a little bit and
Speaker 2: now a little crossover today, what do you think? I'll
Speaker 2: ask you a yes no question on the on the
Speaker 2: hardline activism that the Woodside protesters have been undertaking, because
Speaker 2: it hasn't worked. He hasn't worked politically. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: it's worked in terms of community support given what we've heard.
Speaker 2: But you know, as we know, sometimes on these issues
Speaker 2: there can be a silent majority. But we will go
Speaker 2: to that in just a moment. Also on the program today,
Speaker 2: Law Talk with Nick Maruchak from MKI Legal. Melkritle will
Speaker 2: join us from the swan Borne Vet Center to talk
Speaker 2: about your beloved pets. And Steve Gilby the former frontman
Speaker 2: of the Church, bass player, singer, songwriter Steve Gilby will
Speaker 2: have a chat to us a little bit later on
Speaker 2: Steve's playing in Perth tonight out at the Civic, So
Speaker 2: we'll have a chat with Steve in just a second
Speaker 2: on the program. Want to try and clear something up
Speaker 2: first off, if we could.
Speaker 3: Right, let's clear this up once and for all.
Speaker 2: Yes or no? Is it over for the Woodside protesters?
Speaker 2: Is it all over? After Murray? What the Federal Environment
Speaker 2: Minister in yesterday in principle get backed the gas producer
Speaker 2: Woodside in looking to extend the lease until twenty seventy
Speaker 2: with some conditions, of course, what do you reckon? Is
Speaker 2: it over for the protesters? Yes?
Speaker 4: Or no?
Speaker 2: I don't think it is im and no on this one.
Speaker 2: What do you reckon? Is it over for the protesters?
Speaker 2: So the anti activism, the anti Woodside activism has been ferocious,
Speaker 2: it's been sustained. Here's a chronology. Here's a quick rundown
Speaker 2: of some of the major hardline activism headlines, if you will.
Speaker 2: Going back to November twenty twenty one, the protests started
Speaker 2: against Woodside sponsorship of the Nippers. Nippers are the little
Speaker 2: kids that do serve life saving and Woodside Nippers is
Speaker 2: on all their little shirts that they wear at surf
Speaker 2: on Sunday mornings. So that's when it started. That's the
Speaker 2: first time I can remember it starting November twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2: In September twenty twenty two, Woodside Echoside gets played somewhat
Speaker 2: surprisingly to those of us who were there at a
Speaker 2: midnight oil concert. It was a song and for about
Speaker 2: five minutes, and it ended with a slide with Pete
Speaker 2: Ga pointing to a slide up on stage which said
Speaker 2: here's mart McGowan's email, his rees Whippy's email. He was
Speaker 2: the Environment Minister. So that was September twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: A year later, in twenty three, Dockers fans down at Fremantle,
Speaker 2: Freemantel Dockers supporters, Alex Hillman, Dale Kickett, Jered McNeil, Jill O'Shaughnessy,
Speaker 2: Hello Jill if you're listening. Carmen Lawrence, just to name
Speaker 2: a few, protested that Frio was sponsored by Woodside. That
Speaker 2: was in September twenty three. January twenty twenty three. Frederick
Speaker 2: mccobbin's Down on His Luck one of our most famous
Speaker 2: paintings of all time, Australian paintings all time. Down in
Speaker 2: this loot was the Face at the Art Gallery by
Speaker 2: Desmond Blurton and a ceramic artist called Joanna Partika. That
Speaker 2: was twenty three point being. The activism has been sustained
Speaker 2: and unrelenting. You could argue, you give what we saw yesterday,
Speaker 2: it hasn't worked. August twenty twenty three a gang of
Speaker 2: four go to Meg O'Neil's house and a charge with
Speaker 2: attempted trespart in criminal damage Matilda Lane Road, Rose, Jesse
Speaker 2: Noaks and mil Davis and Gerard mass Masa and they
Speaker 2: pleaded guilty and received fines. So my mail on this
Speaker 2: is that it's been sustained, unrelenting. They've been painting Woodside
Speaker 2: as the environmental death star, and I will not. Of course,
Speaker 2: it'd be only fair to notice that earlier this year
Speaker 2: Woodside inadvertently dumped sixteen thousand leaders of hydrocarbons up near
Speaker 2: x Mouth into the ocean that he's being investigated. But
Speaker 2: my male is that the decision yesterday was unexpected and
Speaker 2: has rattled the big hitters in the activist movements. The
Speaker 2: timing caught people by surprise, Murray Wat's timing and the
Speaker 2: clear cut nature of the Murray What decision has rattled people.
Speaker 2: So you can argue that the activism hasn't worked. The
Speaker 2: hardline tactics haven't worked. Politically, I'm not sure if they've
Speaker 2: worked in getting community support from people like myself and
Speaker 2: older West Australians. The push to get people like Kate
Speaker 2: Hewlett into State and fees Parliament hasn't worked either. So
Speaker 2: what next? And do you think it's over? Let's sort
Speaker 2: that it's out. Is it over? Yes?
Speaker 5: Or no?
Speaker 2: Is it now over? For the Woodside protest is what
Speaker 2: are they going to do now? Is the drilling in
Speaker 2: the brows basin the new the new battleground one double
Speaker 2: three eight D two. Thanks for listening in today, Ray says,
Speaker 2: your guest is Steve Kilby with a K, not Gilby.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry if I said Gilby, Ray, I really like
Speaker 2: Steve Kilby, always have Steve Kilby on the show. A
Speaker 2: little bit later on, Let's clean this up. So I
Speaker 2: must have said it because Greg said the same. Sorry Greg, Sorry,
Speaker 2: Ray yees, Steve Kilby. Sorry, everybody, absolutely right. I stand corrected.
Speaker 2: Let's sort this out. Is it over for the Woodside protest?
Speaker 2: Is the noseer two and the yeses of a one?
Speaker 2: Let me know today. Meg O'Neill, the head of Woodside,
Speaker 2: is still in Queensland at that convention. At that conference
Speaker 2: and she spoke about the rock art on the bar
Speaker 2: up yesterday.
Speaker 6: We have a very strong working relationship with the Merjigga
Speaker 6: Aboriginal Corporation. We've worked closely with traditional custodians for more
Speaker 6: than forty years now, and whilst we haven't always gotten
Speaker 6: it right, we have very strong working relationships now and
Speaker 6: we support the World Heritage listing and we believe industry
Speaker 6: and heritage can coexist. I'll leave it to the state
Speaker 6: and the federal government to comment on.
Speaker 2: The UN report. That's mega O'Neil yesterday, so there's more
Speaker 2: to come here. I don't think I'm a no on this.
Speaker 2: I reckon it's not over for the Woodside protests, as
Speaker 2: they will keep going. They'll probably changed tactic, they'll probably
Speaker 2: get more creative. It hasn't worked, hasn't worked politically. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure if it's worked in terms of community support either.
Speaker 2: Ken from Southern River Good Kim. Yes, it's all over
Speaker 2: Red Road for the protesters, Thank you, mate, Aleen. The
Speaker 2: voice of reasons is no, it's never really over professional
Speaker 2: protests and activists. They'll continue to highlight their cause and
Speaker 2: whatever way they can. Thank you. A lean Paulice is
Speaker 2: back in two thousand and nine. Under the Milky Way
Speaker 2: by the Church has both of the best song for
Speaker 2: the past twenty year. It was poorly Sorry for saying Gilbert,
Speaker 2: everyone I stand corrected. Gabby Hi Gabs, He says sadly, No,
Speaker 2: she's a no. Fiona says, has Carmen Lawrence swapped out
Speaker 2: her gas stove? Yet not a bad question? One double
Speaker 2: three eight eighty two is the number of the text
Speaker 2: number zero four eight seven triuble nine eight eighty two.
Speaker 2: Peter says yes. Roy Orbison had a hit called It's over.
Speaker 2: It's one to hear from Lee. Why are you promoting
Speaker 2: protests as a decision has been made the majority support
Speaker 2: that we need. It can't live under constant protest by
Speaker 2: minority groups. Law needs to apply to these vandals. Thanks Lee.
Speaker 2: In Mandra it does, Mate. So you know these guys
Speaker 2: are getting pinged. I think one of them is in
Speaker 2: court this weekend or this Friday on a some stink
Speaker 2: bomb activity. It's it's the biggest climate issue in Australian politics,
Speaker 2: Lee at the moment, and I'm just wondering what they're
Speaker 2: going to do next. It's been you know, they've been
Speaker 2: on about this for four or five years, hardline activism.
Speaker 2: Mark says no, but I wish it was no. This
Speaker 2: is Jacob Hey, Jacob Green Labor voted with landslide state
Speaker 2: and federal. Certainly in the Upper House Jacob, they were Mate.
Speaker 2: Thanks for your correspondence today. Yeah. Taking the poll today,
Speaker 2: is it over for the Woodside protests? A lot of
Speaker 2: people saying no, that they will keep Goingay Zenoy.
Speaker 7: Mining Simon, how are you very well?
Speaker 2: Mate?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't believe it's over at all. I wouldn't
Speaker 7: trust that Minister Murray Wood as far as I could
Speaker 7: throw him. He's destroying lives, sheet trade in wa and
Speaker 7: until he's given that the ultimate green light, I reckon.
Speaker 8: We haven't got a real apprival yet.
Speaker 2: No, that's a good point, Zeno. It is subject to conditions.
Speaker 2: Thank you mate, so xeno not trusting Murray wad in
Speaker 2: this regard. Trina of Mainland. Hi, Trina, thanks your thoughts.
Speaker 2: I think most of us are just blown away by
Speaker 2: the timeline. Granted until twenty seventy, that is a very
Speaker 2: very long time since Trina, it is Trina, and I
Speaker 2: did think Murray what would pull back on it. I'll
Speaker 2: still get a messages of saying it's Steve Kilby. I know,
Speaker 2: I know it is, and I can't believe I said Kilby.
Speaker 2: I apologize unreservedly. Steve Kilby will be with us a
Speaker 2: little bit later on front Man for the Church, one
Speaker 2: of the best, the bloke he loves playing the basin
Speaker 2: and making the roof shake. Excuse me, thank you for listening.
Speaker 2: In Wonderble three eight to eighty two will come back
Speaker 2: in just a moment. What does it mean the decision
Speaker 2: yesterday by Murray? What it is conditional of course, based
Speaker 2: on Woodside doing the right thing by emissions and some
Speaker 2: other environmental conditions have been put on them. They've backed
Speaker 2: away from being involved in areas near scott Reef. The
Speaker 2: Heritage listed scott Reef. So we'll find out. We're going
Speaker 2: to talk to the CCI, and there's a going to
Speaker 2: talk to a fellow who reckons, a guy Alex Hillman,
Speaker 2: and he's going to talk about corporate responsibility and what
Speaker 2: this means for forwood Side to have a social license
Speaker 2: to operate and for their corporate responsibility there. Now the
Speaker 2: decision is likely to be made. Thank you for listening,
Speaker 2: he said, over for the Woodside protesters that nose are
Speaker 2: ten and yes are three back in a sec yesterday
Speaker 2: on the program and we had Adam Horton, he's the
Speaker 2: opposition spokesperson on matters policing, and he called me Shane
Speaker 2: and people. Jack you're very funny, he said, Hey, Shane,
Speaker 2: it's Kilby, not Gilby. Thanks Jack, that's funny, well remembered.
Speaker 2: Sorry everyone, Steve Kilby on the show a bit later.
Speaker 2: Thanks for your correspondence today. Sue Hi, Sue, she's as
Speaker 2: much I wish it was over. They never give up.
Speaker 2: They'll just come up with some other ridiculous plan, this
Speaker 2: one here from bev Hip Bev No. I don't believe
Speaker 2: it's over for the protesters. These xelots will find another
Speaker 2: way to upset people. They need to take a hard
Speaker 2: look at themselves, you know. And I've mentioned this a
Speaker 2: few times. It's not a bad chat to have, is
Speaker 2: it about the use of fossil fuels. I have been
Speaker 2: completely perplexed and amused about how hard they've gone on Woodside,
Speaker 2: and I would make the point that it arguably hasn't worked.
Speaker 2: And I do know they're a bit rattled on this,
Speaker 2: the protesters. They're wondering what they can do next. Is
Speaker 2: it the Brown's basin? Is it the battle for Julian?
Speaker 2: The Browse basin is the that is the next battleground?
Speaker 2: What is yesterday's What does yesterday's decision mean economically? Aaron
Speaker 2: Moore is the chief economist from the Chamber of Commerce Industry,
Speaker 2: joins me. Now, could I Aaron.
Speaker 9: Good I Simon or should I say Shane? We'll go
Speaker 9: with Simon.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Poor blokes his first interview with me as well, so
Speaker 2: he was remorseful. So what does this mean? And this
Speaker 2: is conditional, so it's not it's not across the line yet.
Speaker 2: Can you have you got some metrics on this for us?
Speaker 9: Oh, look, this is a matter that sits with Woodside
Speaker 9: at presently. It's a standard part of the regulatory procedure
Speaker 9: that the Minister would come back with some conditions. I
Speaker 9: assume and would be surprised if Woodside weren't working through
Speaker 9: those issues over the coming days and then issuing a response.
Speaker 2: To the Minister.
Speaker 9: But you know, I trust and hope that all is
Speaker 9: in order and that will get the absolute final confirmation
Speaker 9: in the expected time period.
Speaker 2: Is the Browse base in the next part of the
Speaker 2: argument that still hasn't been approved as it aired, so
Speaker 2: we've got you know, the lease in the contract has
Speaker 2: been extended up until twenty seven conditions notwithstanding. Is Browse
Speaker 2: the next sort of battleground you.
Speaker 9: Think, Oh, look, and again look, this is a matter
Speaker 9: for the company. I mean, here's the important thing. Signon
Speaker 9: global capital is more mobile than ever and we just
Speaker 9: can't assume that further investments of that nature and that
Speaker 9: particular one that you refer to are some sort of
Speaker 9: fate of complete. We're seeing jurisdictions around the world realizing
Speaker 9: the critical role of gas for the energy transition, and
Speaker 9: to keep prices down for consumers and households, and so
Speaker 9: you know, it's incumbent upon not just companies to ensure
Speaker 9: that the conditions are in place for those sorts of investments,
Speaker 9: but the governments as well, to ensure they have regultory
Speaker 9: and tax settings that are conducive to making those sorts
Speaker 9: of those sorts of investments. Personally on behalf of the
Speaker 9: w economy and the small businesses and the households that
Speaker 9: exist in this day. I do hope that investments of
Speaker 9: that nature occur in the future, but we can't just
Speaker 9: assume that it will happen without good, constructive, effective government
Speaker 9: policy that encourages that sort of investment.
Speaker 2: Aaron, you did cci get to meet with mister Watt
Speaker 2: when he was here a couple of weeks ago, and
Speaker 2: were you surprised at how quickly you made this decision.
Speaker 9: Yes, we did meet with Minister what and we appreciated
Speaker 9: his constructive engagement on the issue. He didn't speak with
Speaker 9: us to any any detail particular about the Northwest Shelf decision.
Speaker 9: Due to the sensitive, sensitive nature. We noted to the
Speaker 9: Minister why we thought it was an important project to
Speaker 9: go ahead. But he was very professional and careful and
Speaker 9: guarded in his comments and so we had no insight
Speaker 9: whatsoever into the decision. Look, he had to make the
Speaker 9: decision by Saturday. I assume that the decision had been
Speaker 9: made internally within the government. Now they just decided that
Speaker 9: rather than ongoing speculation that they would make the announcement yesterday.
Speaker 2: There's economics in this, and this is why we're talking
Speaker 2: to you with there's some politics in this as well.
Speaker 2: Can you reflect on why you think Albanezi and what
Speaker 2: have done this at this time and so quickly?
Speaker 9: Oh? Look, I think, as I said before, there's just
Speaker 9: a growing realization around the critical role that natural gas
Speaker 9: will play in the future economy. It's going to be
Speaker 9: absolutely vital for providing affordable and reliable energy in the
Speaker 9: energy transition. We've seen what's happened in Spain and Portugal
Speaker 9: in recent weeks and months where power systems are under
Speaker 9: increasing strain due to renewables rollout, and renewables have an
Speaker 9: absolutely critical part to play in the future of the
Speaker 9: grid and we absolutely welcome more investment in solar and
Speaker 9: wind into our grid. But if that does not occur
Speaker 9: alongside additional additional supplies of natural gas, then affordability and
Speaker 9: reliability will suffer. And so I think the federal government
Speaker 9: pragmatically recognizes that. And beyond that, it's just so critical
Speaker 9: to the future of our economy. If we look at, say,
Speaker 9: for example, the explosion in the investment in assets like
Speaker 9: data centers to underpin artificial intelligence, well, we want Western
Speaker 9: Australia's economy to grow and diversify and it won't do
Speaker 9: that without access to those sorts of investments. And those
Speaker 9: sorts of investments require enormous, enormous quantums of energy, and
Speaker 9: so we're not just looking at energy transition across the world,
Speaker 9: we're looking to it. We're looking at a great energy addition.
Speaker 9: There's going to be so much more energy required. And
Speaker 9: if we want to be a modern, thriving, successful economy
Speaker 9: that generates fantastic jobs for kids in remote communities and
Speaker 9: into the cities as well, then we need to be
Speaker 9: leaning into our natural advantages and what a competitive advantage
Speaker 9: it is to have an asset like the Northwest Shelf
Speaker 9: within our economy. And so that's why we're so excited
Speaker 9: about the decision.
Speaker 2: All right, Aaron, thank you very much for talking to
Speaker 2: us today. Thanks you time. Thanks to Aaron Maury. That's interesting,
Speaker 2: isn't that? It's the mobility of global capital is interesting.
Speaker 2: So we know that China is part of this argument.
Speaker 2: We know that America is China needs gas, and the
Speaker 2: PM himself earlier this week used the phrase firming capacity,
Speaker 2: which is around our ability to access natural gas in
Speaker 2: energy production until such time as we transition into renewables.
Speaker 2: One double three two, Dean says Simon. Peter Garrett protesting
Speaker 2: against Woodside. He should shut his gob, says Dean, and
Speaker 2: Dean goes on a little bit about when he was
Speaker 2: Environment Minister. This is Peter Garrett from September twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: I was there this surprise quite a few of as
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 10: Everything else is secondary, secondary to the way that we
Speaker 10: treat the planet and one another.
Speaker 2: So that's the song echo Side Woodside that just popped
Speaker 2: up in the middle of the song list, and you know,
Speaker 2: some people like it, and some people said, mate play
Speaker 2: play beds of burning or place up else. But that's
Speaker 2: you know, that's when I really started to take notice
Speaker 2: that the protesting against the nippers, protesting against at the
Speaker 2: midnight all concert going to Meg O'Neil's house facing mccubburn.
Speaker 2: I don't know how all that went down. One double
Speaker 2: three eight Edy two is the is the phone number?
Speaker 2: So we're asking the question this morning is it over
Speaker 2: for the Woodside protesters? And the nose are coming in
Speaker 2: pretty strongly so a lot of our listeners think the
Speaker 2: protesters will keep going Mark the Farmacist, Shane Beaumont, Shane Bowie,
Speaker 2: but like David Bowie, but not really, Thanks Ma, and
Speaker 2: Terry's Terry says, I find it interesting that the biggest
Speaker 2: problem people have is you saying someone's name incorrectly. We
Speaker 2: certainly do live in the lucky country. Thanks Terry from Forestfield.
Speaker 2: It's all good fun, Terry. I shouldn't have said it,
Speaker 2: and I did, and I apologize. One double three eight
Speaker 2: Eddy two is the phone number? Stop the Woodbridge gas
Speaker 2: project burn more Cole says, says Kay Caine, then you've
Speaker 2: got Caine. I'd have to think about that, Caine. That's
Speaker 2: very confusing all round. Is it over for the Woodside protesters?
Speaker 2: We'll keep the poll going through until one o'clock today?
Speaker 2: What is this? What's what is now? Woodside responsibility is
Speaker 2: corporate responsibility in terms of its social license. State listening.
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Speaker 2: Siahs is via the text line that sarahs Hello Sarah,
Speaker 2: She says, Simon, these woodside protesters are like jilted partners
Speaker 2: whose exites have remarried. They can't accept the outcome because
Speaker 2: the conflict has become their whole reason for being. Without it,
Speaker 2: they either have to do something to define themselves with evaporate.
Speaker 2: Redefining yourselves always difficult, hard work, and evaporation is unacceptable
Speaker 2: for those who like to draw attention to themselves. Thank you, Sarah,
Speaker 2: I reckon my mail, Sarah, thanks for your coro. Is
Speaker 2: they rattled? They are rattled? Thanks for your thoughts and
Speaker 2: Chas raises a really really good question. Why didn't the
Speaker 2: labor government make the decision before the election. Simon Chaz
Speaker 2: I reckon, that's that would be federal Labour sniffing the
Speaker 2: wind a bit. I think to see how what the
Speaker 2: lay of the land was like post election with the
Speaker 2: Teals and with Greens and with the Greens, and they've
Speaker 2: you know, they've come down swiftly, still subject to conditions
Speaker 2: of course, about extending the lease until twenty seventy. Alex
Speaker 2: Hillman is with the Ostralations Center for Corporate Responsibility. What
Speaker 2: does this decision mean for Woodside? Getday, Alex, Good to
Speaker 2: talk to.
Speaker 12: You, Hice, Simon, good to be on the station.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. We're running a yes no poll today.
Speaker 2: Is it over for the Woodside processes? The yes are
Speaker 2: five and the nose are twenty And I think you
Speaker 2: would agree with that this this could really exacerbate and
Speaker 2: inflame the hardline activists.
Speaker 12: There's obviously a number of aspects to this. You know,
Speaker 12: the environmental aspects are pretty clear. You're you're talking a
Speaker 12: lot about the Yeah, the protests that that Woodsid's receiving.
Speaker 12: You know, we spend a lot of time thinking about
Speaker 12: investor perspectives and speaking to investors as well. Woodside doesn't
Speaker 12: have a strong record of generating strong shareholder returns. It's
Speaker 12: invested in a number of projects that that we think
Speaker 12: have lost money, and we're actually concerned that that's that's
Speaker 12: just going to happen again if it proceeds with Brows.
Speaker 2: That's so that's that's the next bad, isn't it. That's
Speaker 2: the next part of the puzzle. We suspect the Browse basis.
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, I think so. So you know, this conditional approval,
Speaker 12: we haven't seen what the conditions are, but that's to
Speaker 12: operate Kraftic gas plant or the Northwest Shelf, which can
Speaker 12: process gas. But that's running out of gas. So you know,
Speaker 12: if if this this approval is granted, then you know
Speaker 12: Woodside's going to be looking for other gas sources and
Speaker 12: you know, probably the most prominent is is Brows.
Speaker 2: So you know, I had a little phone around yesterday
Speaker 2: and talked to people who are on the protest activism
Speaker 2: side of it, Alex and they I think they're a
Speaker 2: little rattled. They weren't expecting the decisions to be so
Speaker 2: quick and so clear and so brutal. Conditions notwithstanding, if
Speaker 2: I can ask you about that part of it, the
Speaker 2: social license part of I guess for Woodside and their
Speaker 2: corporate responsibility thereof you mentioned that there hasn't always been
Speaker 2: a great investor return. People like me seduced by the
Speaker 2: fact that they sponsor the Nippers, they had a nice,
Speaker 2: big building in the city, they sponsored the Frio Dockers.
Speaker 2: People like me seduced that by their community image.
Speaker 12: I can't talk to what suggests you you know what,
Speaker 12: thank you, but yeah, you know what I mean, they've
Speaker 12: got to I think they've got a good rep in
Speaker 12: in a brand in the community, haven't they, which which
Speaker 12: goes to corporate responsibility. I think they act like they
Speaker 12: need to protect their brands. You know, they do face
Speaker 12: a lot of cruises criticism. I think, you know, maybe
Speaker 12: counter and intuitively to some of your listeners, they actually
Speaker 12: don't generate strong chans. So over the last fifteen years
Speaker 12: they've actually generated less shareholder return. They haven't generated enough
Speaker 12: shaholder returns to keep up with inflation. They've generated a
Speaker 12: point seven percent per year. So they've got they've got
Speaker 12: a weak brand that they feel they need to protect,
Speaker 12: and they've got a business model which which doesn't generate
Speaker 12: strong returns for investors.
Speaker 2: Seen as a WA company too, aren't they And they
Speaker 2: are based here there employee about four thousand people. Again,
Speaker 2: that's that goes to branding, I suppose, doesn't it.
Speaker 12: Yeah, Yeah, they are w based that they're increasingly focused
Speaker 12: on Houston. So you know the current see Meg is
Speaker 12: US based. Their last major investment was US based, So
Speaker 12: I think they like to play up the fact that
Speaker 12: they're a West Australian company. Yeah, and they still are
Speaker 12: headquartered here, but you know, I think that there is
Speaker 12: a gradual pivot towards them being increasingly Americanized.
Speaker 2: This is Alex Hillman from the Australation Center for Corporate Responsibility.
Speaker 2: If I were to ask you as a citizen, Alex
Speaker 2: or even is you in doing your day job as
Speaker 2: you are now? Yes?
Speaker 13: No?
Speaker 2: Is it over for the woodside protests? Are you yes?
Speaker 2: Or are you a no?
Speaker 14: No?
Speaker 12: So I think climate change climate science is getting more certain,
Speaker 12: the impacts are getting more real. You know, we're seeing
Speaker 12: massive floods in New South Wales at the moment. We're
Speaker 12: seeing massive droughts in South Australia at the moment. You know,
Speaker 12: the Australian government is both sides of government have a
Speaker 12: net zero policy so the energy transition is happening. Woodside
Speaker 12: doesn't seem to accept this. They're still developing new fossil
Speaker 12: fuels against what we would say is a shareholder interests
Speaker 12: and against the you know, the accelerating energy transition that
Speaker 12: the world's going through.
Speaker 2: Mentioned firming capacity this week, alex He seems to think
Speaker 2: or hint that we still were going to need gas
Speaker 2: for a while.
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's true. So you know that the energy transition
Speaker 12: is happening. The vast bulk of energy or increased energy
Speaker 12: supply each year and is now coming from renewables, and
Speaker 12: what we're seeing in Australia and the East Coast and
Speaker 12: the West Coast, in Japan, in China and Europe, what
Speaker 12: we're seeing is that renewables are backing out coal and
Speaker 12: then as that happens, we're seeing less less demand for gas.
Speaker 12: So although we need some gas to you know, while
Speaker 12: we transition to a fully renewable grid, the amount of
Speaker 12: gas we need is decreasing over time, and we already
Speaker 12: have enough developed. So the International Energy Agency says that
Speaker 12: we have a naughe developed gas reserves that we don't
Speaker 12: need to develop anymore on our way through the energy transition.
Speaker 2: Thanks for the chat today, Alex. Very good tactical move
Speaker 2: not to comment on the seduction stuff. Well done. Thanks
Speaker 2: for thanks.
Speaker 12: Great to see you.
Speaker 2: Thanks jeers mate, Alex Hillman Australian Center for Corporate Responsibility.
Speaker 2: So that is interesting, isn't I guess they see the
Speaker 2: wood size returned investors isn't great. I'm probably like a
Speaker 2: lot of people. I see the Woodside ads on TV
Speaker 2: had a bit to do with surf life saving over
Speaker 2: the year, with my years with my kids. So I
Speaker 2: see them sponsoring the Nippers program, they sponsor free oh
Speaker 2: on the Jumper, so you do. And they employ a
Speaker 2: lot of people. My mates work for them, so you know,
Speaker 2: maybe that branding is something that we are seduced by
Speaker 2: and susceptible. Two do you think it's over for the
Speaker 2: Woodside protest as Alex Hillman reckons know. I'm a no.
Speaker 2: I think they'll keep going, but they need to probably recalibrate,
Speaker 2: reboot what they have been doing in terms of hardline activism. One, double, three,
Speaker 2: eight of the two, the yes are five and then
Speaker 2: those are twenty six. Get a phil thanks for calling.
Speaker 15: Yes, gooda Simon. I just wanted to know why are
Speaker 15: they still exporting cole overseas from New South Wales and
Speaker 15: Queensland when that produces probably three four times the amount
Speaker 15: of greenhound greenhouse gases and gas does and why aren't
Speaker 15: they concentrating on that instead of the gas? And yes,
Speaker 15: I think it's over for the environments environmentalists because they're
Speaker 15: not going to change the decision. They can keep protesting
Speaker 15: and protesting, but they won't change the decision now that
Speaker 15: it's being made.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean on the coal, I guess the simple
Speaker 2: answer to that field is still a market for coal,
Speaker 2: isn't there? And that's the that's a vexed question, and
Speaker 2: we do have plenty of it. But you know the
Speaker 2: prime is that hindered very strongly that we need gas.
Speaker 2: We need a gas export industry globally and here in
Speaker 2: Australia to firm up our transition to renewables. Wonderful, Thank
Speaker 2: you Phil, Thanks for you call mate, and they running
Speaker 2: for core of the day. Hello Teresa, good morning, good morning.
Speaker 16: I'm just phoning up of that the woodside demonstrating people. Yes,
Speaker 16: I don't making a pool themselves, helping needs you. It's
Speaker 16: a prime minister, H's what the main date and others
Speaker 16: should shut up and get stuffed.
Speaker 2: All right, Thanks, thanks Teresa, concise to the point a
Speaker 2: paucity of language. Yeah, he does have the mandate. I
Speaker 2: think they were waiting to see, you know, if they
Speaker 2: needed to get on with the Greens and the Teals
Speaker 2: and Kate Chaney and the like before they made decision.
Speaker 2: Murray Wat's made the decision. A lot of our listeners
Speaker 2: are aren't convinced. They are still very stroppy about Murray
Speaker 2: Watt's role in the cessation of the live sheep export trade.
Speaker 2: So a lot of our listeners are setting messages to say, yeah, nah,
Speaker 2: I don't know, We'll wait until see what's over the line. Yes, no,
Speaker 2: is it over for the Woodside protests and knows we've
Speaker 2: got this very strongly. I thought the yeses from our
Speaker 2: listeners would be stronger than this. The nose are thirty
Speaker 2: and the yes of five. Get a bill.
Speaker 17: Ooday bowie, How are you mate going? Well, yeah, I'm
Speaker 17: not sure about the guy you were talking to a
Speaker 17: bit earlier. He sort of came across as being a
Speaker 17: little little biased against Woodside. He didn't have a lot
Speaker 17: of positive stuff to say about them, but that's his
Speaker 17: progatives the same as everybody else. The biggest problem these
Speaker 17: these protesters have made is they're just they're way too radical.
Speaker 17: You know, they don't resonate. I don't believe they resonate
Speaker 17: with the general public. And you know, at the end
Speaker 17: of the day, if the checks and balances are in place.
Speaker 17: And I'm ambivalent either way, the only sway for me is,
Speaker 17: as you say, the thousands of jobs and you know,
Speaker 17: people arking up about sponsorship of the Nippers and the
Speaker 17: Freemantle docors. I mean, give me a break. Would you
Speaker 17: rather see cigarette and you know, alcohol sponsorship or something.
Speaker 17: You know, it's it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Bill, I reckon the tobacco one is will
Speaker 2: not happen or is never going to happen. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I do take your point. I mean an inter Energy
Speaker 2: copper fair bit as well. I think that was a
Speaker 2: pack comings it wouldn't wear yourn Inter Energy shirt as
Speaker 2: the Australian captain. So Bill, my point of view is
Speaker 2: I think the hard lim activism stuff doesn't work with
Speaker 2: people perhaps like you and me who you know, and
Speaker 2: I care about the planet and the fishies and the
Speaker 2: boodies and the plants. But I don't know if the
Speaker 2: hardline stuff has been working, and you could argue that
Speaker 2: hasn't worked around the Woodside decision, around the Woodside decision.
Speaker 2: Thanks Bill, thanks for your call today. One of our
Speaker 2: listeners just let us know that Alex Hillman who was
Speaker 2: on used to work for Woodside and I've just looked
Speaker 2: it up and that is hondo per one hundred percent correct.
Speaker 2: Alex Hillman worth for five years was Woodside Climate Change Advisor,
Speaker 2: So to our listeners, maybe that's why he was going
Speaker 2: in so hard on Woodside to kind of balance the
Speaker 2: ledger for people that knew that I didn't five years
Speaker 2: Woodside Climate Change Advisor. Get a Joe and.
Speaker 18: How are you a good simon?
Speaker 19: Very quickly. I've asked this question a few times on
Speaker 19: the defunt Overnighters. We will now ask the question to you.
Speaker 19: Can you please get a protester on the phone and
Speaker 19: ask them out right if you really want to make
Speaker 19: a difference, why actually go and protest over in China
Speaker 19: and India where you'll do better good over there than here.
Speaker 19: Because they're the biggest protest they're the biggest polluters. So yeah,
Speaker 19: will you be able to ask one of them out right?
Speaker 19: And get an actual answer out of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well, thanks Joan. That's very a good point,
Speaker 2: well made. Yeah, we know India and China are the
Speaker 2: great polluters of the planet. And I suppose you know
Speaker 2: you can what was that saying, think globally, act locally,
Speaker 2: can't you? I don't think that the I think the
Speaker 2: protesters are rattled. This has set them back. They weren't
Speaker 2: expecting the decision to be as clear cut and as
Speaker 2: to come down, to be delivered as quickly, and they
Speaker 2: are a little bit rattled. But they will keep I
Speaker 2: believe they'll keep going and they'll become more creative. We'll
Speaker 2: come back in just a set. Thanks for you all
Speaker 2: your thoughts today. It's the aftermath of the you know,
Speaker 2: the first stage in the Woodside extension of the gas lease,
Speaker 2: and that's are you a Woodside investor? Do you work
Speaker 2: for Woodside? Do you If you are a Woodside investor,
Speaker 2: what have your returns been like? How do you see
Speaker 2: them as a as a corporate entity? And so that's
Speaker 2: the other side of the other side of the corn.
Speaker 2: I think in the main the hardline stuff, you know,
Speaker 2: the facing Frederick mccobbin's down on your luck even though
Speaker 2: it's only on the perspects that was covering the painting
Speaker 2: out one of our greatest ever paintings, that that didn't
Speaker 2: win any friends, did it. And you know, Frio people
Speaker 2: are freo people, you know, the people who live in
Speaker 2: Freemantle and love it and support the Dockers, And I
Speaker 2: don't know if they want any friends either. And you
Speaker 2: know some of the some of the candidates in the
Speaker 2: state and federal elections down there didn't get up either.
Speaker 2: So you just wonder who these guys are talking to.
Speaker 2: Maybe my kids twenty six, twenty five nineteen, Maybe they're listening.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll be back in a moment. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 2: I'm Simon Beymont. This is Perth today. Yeah, thanks for
Speaker 2: your thoughts. Today we are running poll. Do you think
Speaker 2: the Woodside it's over for the Woodside protesters and those
Speaker 2: have it very strongly, Hayden says no, gooda Hayden, Thank
Speaker 2: you mate. Andy from Dianella, No, the campaign is not over.
Speaker 2: We have enough gas to see us through the renewable
Speaker 2: energy transition. We don't need to supply the rest of
Speaker 2: the world at our peril, says Andy. And I've had
Speaker 2: a few of these Joe, Joe, maybe if these less
Speaker 2: lefty protesters had a mortgage in a job, they wouldn't
Speaker 2: be protesting. It's a pretty common theme, Joe. I don't
Speaker 2: know whether they have or not. Then the probably is
Speaker 2: probably safe to say they're not all the same. Dave says,
Speaker 2: God to love Joe and ask them outright. Thanks Davo.
Speaker 2: Thanks for your thoughts today. One of Nat says, I
Speaker 2: wonder how many protests that we're in clothes made in China,
Speaker 2: one of the worst polluters. Thank you, Nat, Thanks for
Speaker 2: your thoughts today. Is it over for the Woodside protests
Speaker 2: of the Yes is six and nose are thirty four?
Speaker 2: Aleen has texted us the voice Overrey is Thanks John,
Speaker 2: Thanks Aileen. I think we need to be sensible and
Speaker 2: not hysterical about the Woodside. Leasa's gas is an important
Speaker 2: part of world energy transition. The community needs to benefit
Speaker 2: from the project and it also has to be commercially
Speaker 2: viable for the company which is in business to make
Speaker 2: a profit, and it's up to the company to make
Speaker 2: that determination. Woodside must abide by the condition set by
Speaker 2: the government. Aileen, Thank you. Sensible as always, hence the
Speaker 2: title the Voice of reason. Yeah, all of that's true.
Speaker 2: And I did mention that the Woodside are currently under
Speaker 2: investigation for spilling sixty one thousand liters of fluid into
Speaker 2: the Indian Ocean and sixteen thousand leaders of that was
Speaker 2: made up of hydrocarbons and that was recently, so you know,
Speaker 2: it's not all beer and skittles in Woodside Land. Maddie
Speaker 2: Cross joins us now from the six PR newsroom. She's
Speaker 2: been to the premiers press conference at Bouga Tayte for
Speaker 2: this morning.
Speaker 20: Get a Maddie Hey Bowie.
Speaker 21: Yeah, I'm here at Balga Tafe where the premiers made
Speaker 21: an announcement about taste. But I think the interest, obviously
Speaker 21: was his response to the federal government's decision to approve
Speaker 21: that Northwest Shelf extension, which you've been speaking about this morning.
Speaker 21: So the project was given the green light to continue
Speaker 21: until twenty seventy in northern Wway, and Roger Cook says
Speaker 21: he's relieved and that it's good to know that the
Speaker 21: federal government are on the same page as his government,
Speaker 21: who already gave their green light for the project. He was,
Speaker 21: you know, he was asked a lot about it, saying
Speaker 21: gas is an important part of the future for lowering
Speaker 21: global emissions. But he did note that because this deal
Speaker 21: is subject to a list of conditions, particularly around emissions
Speaker 21: and air quality. Roger Cook says, he, you know, while
Speaker 21: he's relieved, now he'll just await Woodside's decision and response
Speaker 21: to those terms. They have ten days to a ond
Speaker 21: to that, so they're going to consult with traditional owners
Speaker 21: and things in those ten days and then I'm sure, yeah,
Speaker 21: we'll keep across this topic and see what the outcome is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Maddie, thank you've sent some audio into a let's
Speaker 2: play Roger Cook's some of his thoughts this morning. Here
Speaker 2: we go.
Speaker 22: Obviously there's a sense of relief but satisfaction that the
Speaker 22: Commonwealth agrees with the State government that we can continue
Speaker 22: with the Karatha gas plant for the foreseeable future to
Speaker 22: ensure that we can continue to process gas through that facility.
Speaker 22: This saves literally thousands of jobs in Western Australia, thousands
Speaker 22: of jobs associated with that plant, tens of thousands of
Speaker 22: jobs of indirect employment, and of course it secures the
Speaker 22: future for Karatha. So it's not just important for our
Speaker 22: overall economy, it's important for regional wa So We're very
Speaker 22: pleased with the outcome of the initial decision, but obviously.
Speaker 2: Now we have to wait for the final decision.
Speaker 22: What happens now, Well, my understanding is that the Commonwealth
Speaker 22: has to have a period of consultation with the stakeholder.
Speaker 22: In this case, it's Woodside is the operator of the
Speaker 22: joint venture partnership, because they've provided some conditions that I'm
Speaker 22: not privy to in relation to the granting of the extension.
Speaker 22: And then once that consultation has been completed, the government
Speaker 22: will be in a position to make a final decision.
Speaker 2: All right. So the federal and state labor governments are
Speaker 2: in lockstep there, Maddie. What extra tape courses will be
Speaker 2: free from next year?
Speaker 21: Yeah, so it's this is why I am at balgut haste.
Speaker 21: The announcement was for one hundred million dollars to invest
Speaker 21: into cheap, you know, low cost tape courses and also
Speaker 21: continue free courses and add even more to those so
Speaker 21: from twenty twenty six thirty three and plumbing, wall and
Speaker 21: ceiling lining, brick laying, construction and solid plastering they're amongst
Speaker 21: some that will be completely free of fees in twenty
Speaker 21: twenty six this funding will also just continue those low
Speaker 21: fee courses across WA, some that have already been popular,
Speaker 21: things like childhood education, nursing, work, health and safety. So
Speaker 21: it's all about you know, we hear a lot from
Speaker 21: the politicians diversifying the economy. That was used a lot
Speaker 21: today and also you know they're made in WA plans,
Speaker 21: so it's all about getting people the skills to just
Speaker 21: go into that all those industries.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Maydi comprehensive. We'll see you when you
Speaker 2: get back and we'll hear your reports during the course
Speaker 2: of the day. Thank you, Thank you. Maddie Cross out
Speaker 2: at the Bouga Tafe today. So there's a number of
Speaker 2: free courses. I'll just repeat those after the news today
Speaker 2: for those of you that got kids, or you might
Speaker 2: be a mature age student interested in changing direction. We'll
Speaker 2: come back in just a moment. Thanks for listening. It's
Speaker 2: five and a half minutes to ten o'clock coming up
Speaker 2: on the show that I wanted to ask you about
Speaker 2: cyclists today because you know, you know, Burke Drive in
Speaker 2: Adita goes from goes from sort of Turno Canning Highway
Speaker 2: Book Drive goes all the way through around to almost
Speaker 2: to point world of golf course counselor considering putting more
Speaker 2: speed humps and making that a more more more friendly
Speaker 2: for cyclists and for motorists. It's probably one of the
Speaker 2: most used bits of road by cyclists in the Metro area,
Speaker 2: and I wanted to ask you about that. Are you
Speaker 2: you know, are you a cyclist? Say you're pro cycling,
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not completely sure that our listeners and
Speaker 2: general people generally in the community like cyclists. I'm going
Speaker 2: to ask you that after after ten o'clock today, what
Speaker 2: do you reckon? You know that that bit of road,
Speaker 2: Burke Drive is a is a massive cycling route. If
Speaker 2: you're riding around the river, you might have heard that
Speaker 2: phrase going for a ride around the river and Bert
Speaker 2: Drive is a big part of that. And they're looking
Speaker 2: to try and calm it down even more with traffic
Speaker 2: calming devices, speed cycling lanes and the light because they
Speaker 2: have accents on that road. So I'd love to talk
Speaker 2: to you about cycling after ten o'clock today, we will
Speaker 2: bring you up today. Is John Krey going to meet
Speaker 2: with the people from the Inglewood Flats. Is John Kerry
Speaker 2: going to meet with the people from the Inglewood Flats.
Speaker 2: I'll bring it up to date on that as well.
Speaker 2: Nick Maruchik with law Talk after ten thirty, Thank you
Speaker 2: for listening. Yeah, thanks for your thoughts. We are running
Speaker 2: a pole today. Is it over for the Woodside protests?
Speaker 2: As this has gone off this pole? As Chris Murphy
Speaker 2: would say, this is going off the nose are thirty nine,
Speaker 2: The yeses is seven, so people think that it's not
Speaker 2: over that. You know, you could argue the hardline activism
Speaker 2: hasn't worked politically from a community support basis, but most
Speaker 2: people think the Woodside protesters will keep going. There's the battleground,
Speaker 2: the battle lines will perhaps be redrawn. Thanks for your
Speaker 2: thoughts and always happy to hear from you if you
Speaker 2: are antie Woodside. As you know, it's ten o'clock now.
Speaker 1: On Perth six PR. This is Perth Today with Simon Beaumont.
Speaker 2: Downhearted. I think the anti Woodside protests is feeling a
Speaker 2: little bit downhearted as of yesterday afternoon, so we're asking
Speaker 2: the question today what next for the protests? Is it
Speaker 2: over for the Woodside protest? As I chronicled the rough
Speaker 2: timeline of the high profile hardline activism initiatives, they've staged
Speaker 2: going right back to twenty twenty one when they first
Speaker 2: started protesting against the Woodside nippers, and it's been unrelenting
Speaker 2: and it's been sustained and it just keeps cropping up,
Speaker 2: and it's been very, very strategic Woodside. But is it
Speaker 2: over the protests as well? Yes? Eight. See the yes
Speaker 2: is are eight and the nose are forty. So people
Speaker 2: are expecting more from the Woodside guys that disrupt the
Speaker 2: Burroup Hub guys into the future. So keep your correspondence
Speaker 2: and your thoughts coming in. We will cover some other
Speaker 2: topics that I wanted to ask you about cyclists and
Speaker 2: about cycling on Burke Drive in Attadale. The it's a
Speaker 2: yes from Mesus Andrew in Secret Harbor today.
Speaker 5: Mate.
Speaker 2: They can't stop the project. What are they going to
Speaker 2: protest for the next forty years? No, of course not
Speaker 2: s his Donna, and I've been asking you about Burk Drive.
Speaker 2: So Burk Drive is probably one of the more high
Speaker 2: profile roads streets, local roads that are used when you
Speaker 2: ride your pushbike around the river. It's changed over the years.
Speaker 2: It's got narrower, it's got some sort of little traffic
Speaker 2: caarming devices on it now, but the councilor considering because
Speaker 2: they're worried about the road itself. The council are looking
Speaker 2: to introduce more trafficcarming devices there now. It's right next
Speaker 2: to the Big Dog Park. It overlooks the river. There's
Speaker 2: some beautiful houses along there, and there is some traffic,
Speaker 2: so I think it's fifty k is now for cars
Speaker 2: along there. And I used to live on the road
Speaker 2: for a little while and it's very, very busy when
Speaker 2: it comes to cycling traffic. People ride in the ones, twos,
Speaker 2: threes and in the big pelotons as well. Early in
Speaker 2: the morning one double three eight two and we talked
Speaker 2: to the councilor just a moment about the plan. Allen says,
Speaker 2: as a cyclist regularly use Burke drive it's great for
Speaker 2: practicing for the two of them, market River team time trials.
Speaker 2: Speed Bumps will not helps, is Allen. Rather, they may
Speaker 2: actually increase the risk of cycle, especially in a lag
Speaker 2: of larger bunch. I've never had issues with cars on
Speaker 2: that road, how I've had problems on other roads. In general.
Speaker 2: Perth drives are okay with cyclists, but there's a minority
Speaker 2: that don't like us. Yeah, thanks, Ala, I just know
Speaker 2: when we cover as a topic here over the years
Speaker 2: on six PR a lot of sort of only half
Speaker 2: joking when I say six hours have been persecuting cyclists
Speaker 2: for about thirty years. I'm only sort of half joking
Speaker 2: about that. Quite a few of our announcers and quite
Speaker 2: a few of the listeners don't like cyclists. So yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll discuss that topic just a moment. Wonder what City
Speaker 2: of Melville going to do with Burke Drive. Just to
Speaker 2: update you, you know, we've been covering the story since
Speaker 2: February of this year about the set of flats, the
Speaker 2: set of units, the social housing units on Ninth Avenue
Speaker 2: in Inglewood. We've talked to the mayor, We've talked to
Speaker 2: people who've lived there. We've talked to the police, We've
Speaker 2: talked to all manner of groups. We've covered the story
Speaker 2: many many times now. We've been asking politely for John Kerrey,
Speaker 2: the Housing Minister, to come on and talk to us
Speaker 2: about the Inglewood Flats. Haven't had any joy so far.
Speaker 2: But I can tell you that the representatives from the
Speaker 2: Inglewood Flats will be meeting with John Kerry on Tuesday
Speaker 2: next week. So when we spoke last to them, We
Speaker 2: spoke to Melissa and she said, oh, we haven't heard.
Speaker 2: You know, no one's meeting with us, but that is
Speaker 2: now happening, and that is now happening next Tuesday. So
Speaker 2: that's that's a good thing, isn't it. There's all sorts
Speaker 2: of conflicting reports floating around that communities haven't had any
Speaker 2: complaints about the residents there, but that's not true. There's
Speaker 2: been at least thirteen that we know of, So mister
Speaker 2: Kerrey is going to attempt to try and sort that
Speaker 2: out because it's an absolute running saw, this one. It's
Speaker 2: been since at least February that we know of it.
Speaker 2: We still have a situation. We have situations in Bentley,
Speaker 2: we have situations in Bayswater, we have situations in the
Speaker 2: city of Perth that are very similar. Highly anti social behavior,
Speaker 2: illegal behavior police, difficult for police to do anything different,
Speaker 2: difficult for rangers to do anything different, for Shires to
Speaker 2: do anything, and so it goes. And this is a
Speaker 2: minority of social community, apartment communities, social housing residents that
Speaker 2: are behaving incredibly and in an incredibly anti social way.
Speaker 2: So we've been told reps from the England Flats will
Speaker 2: meet with John Carey on Tuesday next week. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 2: In Henry's phone in cand I Henry.
Speaker 23: Agda Siahe going like, cyclists, Look, whether you like it
Speaker 23: or don't, the fact of the matter is that we've
Speaker 23: just got to get over it. I mean, I've just
Speaker 23: spent my wife and I just spent ten weeks in
Speaker 23: Europe Scandinavia or Scandinavia, Central and Eastern Europe, visited ten countries,
Speaker 23: cyclists everywhere, and people just get over it. We've got
Speaker 23: speed limits over there of thirty and forty and fifty
Speaker 23: kilometers an hour in built up areas, and people just
Speaker 23: respect it. The level of respect on the roads we
Speaker 23: noticed while we were away was incredible in comparison to here,
Speaker 23: whether it's Eastern States or Western Australia. I think we
Speaker 23: just got to catch up with the rest of the
Speaker 23: world and become a little bit more tolerant.
Speaker 2: Yeah so cultural, hey, Henry think one hundred percent.
Speaker 23: One hundred percent. Now, Having said that, a lot of
Speaker 23: those Scandinavian countries have and you know, Germany et cetera,
Speaker 23: have got good infrastructure to allow for bikes. But when
Speaker 23: you go to the UK Island, Scotland and Wales, the
Speaker 23: roads are really really narrow, and yet again the cyclist
Speaker 23: on the roads and people just you know, just wait
Speaker 23: and safely maneuver around them.
Speaker 4: It's just the way it is.
Speaker 2: Are they exercised cyclists or are they both bakery commuters?
Speaker 23: Yeah, Ina, you know, in Norway, Denmark, Germany bakery commuters.
Speaker 23: But when you go to the UK, particularly when you're
Speaker 23: when you're sort of out of the out of the
Speaker 23: city area, there's you know, there's serious cyclists who are
Speaker 23: doing it for the leisure, and you know you've got
Speaker 23: big tour buses et cetera, and trucks and people just
Speaker 23: people just you know, get on with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, thanks Henry Choose mate. Thanks you call
Speaker 2: thirteen past ten the city of Melbourne looking to adjust
Speaker 2: bird drive and it's probably one of the more prominent
Speaker 2: roads in Perth for doing a lap around the river.
Speaker 24: How's it going, Simon, thanks for taking my call. I've
Speaker 24: I used to be a pretty avid cyclist that I've
Speaker 24: lost the passion over the last sort of eight eight months.
Speaker 24: That previous caller. The difference between there and here is
Speaker 24: what I call a traditional normalized cycling culture. We just
Speaker 24: don't have one and there's a whole other argument that
Speaker 24: I won't go into about that, But in regards to
Speaker 24: Burke Drive, the problem with what the council wants to
Speaker 24: do is that what they want to do is designed
Speaker 24: and implemented by people that have got no idea about cycling.
Speaker 24: They just think, yeah, we have got an idea and
Speaker 24: we're going to make it safer. But it doesn't make
Speaker 24: it any safer, makes it worse.
Speaker 2: So what do you what do you think they want
Speaker 2: to do?
Speaker 12: Les?
Speaker 2: What are you hearing?
Speaker 24: Well, the speed humps and the traffic calming devices, that's
Speaker 24: for cars. It's going to slow the cars down, but
Speaker 24: it's obstacles for cyclists.
Speaker 2: Yeap, all right mate, well mate, it's we will chat
Speaker 2: to the council. There's it's two point seven k's of
Speaker 2: road and I reckon it sounds like you've ridden on
Speaker 2: it many times, and we'll find out what the plan
Speaker 2: is where they put speed humps in and traffic caarming
Speaker 2: but cyclists can still get through it. It remains to
Speaker 2: be seen. But it's probably one of the busiest stretches,
Speaker 2: isn't it.
Speaker 24: Well it is, that's right, and especially when you get
Speaker 24: the big palatons there and you mix that with impatient drivers,
Speaker 24: which are a dime a dozen on our roads, it
Speaker 24: is a recipe for disaster. So I get it. The
Speaker 24: idea of it is good to make it safe for cycling,
Speaker 24: but people who actually ride bikes and know what safe
Speaker 24: cycling is all about need to have input Otherwise you
Speaker 24: end up with something that makes it worse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, makes it more unsafe, all right, Liz, thank you, mate.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. We'll find out more from the council shortly.
Speaker 2: And it's a generic question as well. It could be
Speaker 2: happening in your suburb. We my thoughts. If you get
Speaker 2: ten people riding together, one of them would we will
Speaker 2: be a terrible rider, doesn't look at cars, doesn't think
Speaker 2: about cars, other riders, pedestrians, does the wrong thing. There
Speaker 2: are more expresses a percentage. There are probably higher percentage
Speaker 2: of bad cyclists as compared to bad drivers. And I
Speaker 2: know I do both. Most cyclists are pretty good, but
Speaker 2: there is one or two will always, you know, ride
Speaker 2: in the middle of the road or carry on. There
Speaker 2: are less there are less as a percentage drivers. If
Speaker 2: that makes sense. I hope that makes sense. Sort of
Speaker 2: sounded right, and I was thinking it didn't sound that
Speaker 2: good when I said it. Good, Ay, Mark, good A.
Speaker 18: Weird one for you. I have an aneurysm at the moment,
Speaker 18: so I was told not to get my blood pressure
Speaker 18: up to my operation. So I thought I'd do some
Speaker 18: uber each deliveries and I had an order for three
Speaker 18: bottles of milk today for Australia Post Malaga. I went
Speaker 18: there and I was held against my will for over
Speaker 18: ten minutes because the guy thought that I must be
Speaker 18: a terrorist because I was delivering milk to Australia Post.
Speaker 18: He eventually let me go once I started filming, and
Speaker 18: I mentioned on the video, which I thank you guys
Speaker 18: as well, that he was holding me against my will
Speaker 18: and he confirmed that. He said yes, and he nodded
Speaker 18: his head. I've just had Australia Post ring me and
Speaker 18: they were like, no, this is how we train our stuff.
Speaker 18: You had no right to be delivering milk to us,
Speaker 18: so you could picture my blood pressures through the roof.
Speaker 18: And I'm not feeling too good, but this is this
Speaker 18: is crazy stuff and nobody's accountable.
Speaker 2: So did you When you deliver the milk, you leave
Speaker 2: it out with the milk gets delivered here, gets left
Speaker 2: down in the foyer. Where did you leave the milk
Speaker 2: or did you try to?
Speaker 18: I had instructions to take it in and the map
Speaker 18: was pinned, and I showed him the app and I
Speaker 18: showed him the person and their contact number to so
Speaker 18: it was a staff member, and showed them where I
Speaker 18: was supposed to go in their instructions. So I showed
Speaker 18: them all of that. He wasn't interested. So I ended
Speaker 18: up giving him the milk. I said, well, here, look,
Speaker 18: you can have the milk and do but whatever you like,
Speaker 18: I'll just go. And he wouldn't let me go. And
Speaker 18: then he put the door down and closed the door
Speaker 18: and tall. It wasn't until I started telling me that
Speaker 18: he let me go?
Speaker 2: Is he and was he obviously an Australia Post employee.
Speaker 18: Yes, supervisor. I got to think of his name tag
Speaker 18: and that on the video and that as well. And
Speaker 18: as I say in the video, I make it very clear.
Speaker 18: I said, this man is holding me against my will
Speaker 18: and not letting me go. He nods his head, he
Speaker 18: says yes, And you know, we kept going until he
Speaker 18: finally let me go. But this is crazy delivering milk
Speaker 18: and I've got health concerns at the moment, and you know,
Speaker 18: I'm just so rattled.
Speaker 2: Yeah you sound rad Mark. I'll ask this as delicately
Speaker 2: as I can wire you behaving yourself.
Speaker 18: Absolutely, I was just delivering milk. I mean, at the
Speaker 18: end of the video you see I just say to him,
Speaker 18: you know, for fs, take let me go. But that
Speaker 18: was it. I mean, when you're delivering uber, it's as
Speaker 18: simple as rocking up to as handing him, thanking them
Speaker 18: and off you go. Even when he didn't want that
Speaker 18: to happen. And I gave him the order, even though
Speaker 18: he wasn't the one with the order, he was. He
Speaker 18: gladly took the order and I said, okay, well I'll
Speaker 18: just go now, and he was like, no, You're not
Speaker 18: going anywhere.
Speaker 2: Bizarre and Australia Post have doubled down and said, no,
Speaker 2: this is this is the right process.
Speaker 18: That's how we train them. You had no right to
Speaker 18: come on Australia Post property and you had no right
Speaker 18: to be delivering milk to us.
Speaker 2: Have you delivered milk to them before?
Speaker 16: No?
Speaker 18: No, they're all random jobs, you know. And this one
Speaker 18: was out in Malaga and I live on the other
Speaker 18: side of the city, so it was a good paid job.
Speaker 18: This delivery. It was a long delivery one. It was
Speaker 18: like oh yeah, and I didn't even think about it,
Speaker 18: just wropped up there with the order and as I say,
Speaker 18: I showed him the app, I showed him my idea,
Speaker 18: I showed him everything, and yeah, and I was just
Speaker 18: held against my will and I kept stating to him,
Speaker 18: let me go, let me go, and he just kept refusing.
Speaker 2: All right, Well in the brake mead, I'll have a
Speaker 2: look at the video that he's very bizarre. I hope
Speaker 2: you're okay.
Speaker 18: Yeah, thanks, yeah, yeah, I took some medicine and.
Speaker 2: Hopefully yeah yeah, yeah, no Joe for a walk or something. Mate,
Speaker 2: before it starts rating. Thanks Mark, we'll take pause. It's
Speaker 2: twenty minutes past ten. That's bizarre, isn't it. We will
Speaker 2: come back. Is it over for the woodside protests? As
Speaker 2: yeses A nine and the nose of forty two. Thanks
Speaker 2: for responding in great number. We'll take a break. Brian's semessus,
Speaker 2: gooda Brian, thank you mate. The cyclists say here and
Speaker 2: happy to have them, but they should be fined if
Speaker 2: riding on the roads alongside a cycleway, which cost taxpayers
Speaker 2: a lot of well spent dollars, Brian, I reckon that
Speaker 2: might be an infringement. I think you might be right.
Speaker 2: If there's a cycle way there, if you'll use path
Speaker 2: whatever they're called, I think you are supposed to use them. Thanks,
Speaker 2: Chris says gooda Simon, Hello, Chris. Traffic calming devices like
Speaker 2: the zigzag style chicanes are the most dangerous thing for cyclists.
Speaker 2: The amount of times impatient knobs with a Q over
Speaker 2: take through them is out of this world. That's want
Speaker 2: to feel in the most amount of danger on my
Speaker 2: bike and do quite a few k's a week. It's
Speaker 2: a cultural thing in this country. Drivers just wide up
Speaker 2: to hate people on bikes. Cheers Mate, enjoying the show.
Speaker 2: Cheers Chris, as I say, I reckon one in ten
Speaker 2: cyclists are a bit ordinary, and probably one on one hundred
Speaker 2: motorists are a bit ordinary, and that data comes to
Speaker 2: you with no scientific basis whatsoever. One level three eight
Speaker 2: eighty two is it over for the Woodside protest has
Speaker 2: given what we heard yesterday. The yes is are nine
Speaker 2: and the nose are forty two. Joining me now is
Speaker 2: Anne Barclay from our production area and has a couple
Speaker 2: of stories about East scooters.
Speaker 10: Hi, I am Hi Bowie. Yeah, a bit of a
Speaker 10: tragic development with this story. Listeners, if they've been tuning
Speaker 10: into Philippo Mama's news bulletins this morning, they would have
Speaker 10: heard about this crash that happened around ten thirty last night.
Speaker 10: An e scooter and a white Volvo truck collided at
Speaker 10: the intersection of Canning Highway and Sterling Highway in East Frio,
Speaker 10: and police have just confirmed that. Unfortunately, the e scooter writer,
Speaker 10: who was a thirty one year old man, did die
Speaker 10: at the scene, so he received yeah, critical injuries. The
Speaker 10: twenty six year old mail truck driver was uninjured and
Speaker 10: he's speaking to at the moment. No charges have been
Speaker 10: laid at this stage.
Speaker 2: You said ten thirty last night.
Speaker 25: Yeah, ten thirty last night. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: So there's a knowing that little intersection, and there's cycle
Speaker 2: ways either side of the intersection which you can cross over,
Speaker 2: and presumance with the bridges so you can cross over
Speaker 2: either way there. So that's terrible.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and obviously it would have been dark, you know,
Speaker 10: ten thirty at night. I don't know e scooters. I
Speaker 10: don't think they're fitted with lights. Maybe some of them
Speaker 10: are it's not that some of the topic I know
Speaker 10: a lot about, but there has unfortunately been a spate
Speaker 10: of eescooter really serious crashes and now this death Bowie.
Speaker 10: So over the weekend an E scooter writer suffered critical
Speaker 10: injuries after he collided with a car in Middle Swan
Speaker 10: and that happened really early Sunday morning, I think shortly
Speaker 10: after midnight is when that happened. And that was actually
Speaker 10: the subject of now hit and run charges. So police
Speaker 10: have charged a twenty four year old man, alleging that
Speaker 10: they failed to remain at the scene, he didn't stop
Speaker 10: and help, and so now he's been charged with causing
Speaker 10: grievous bodily harm. He's due to front court next month.
Speaker 10: The man, the accused, man from Kelmscott. So, yeah, a
Speaker 10: few really serious crashes with late at night scooters.
Speaker 25: Yeah, in the late at night at intersections.
Speaker 2: They're fully dark. Yeah, okay, alright, thank you Anne, And
Speaker 2: we'll ask your listeners. Is it a requirement to have
Speaker 2: lights on a scooter if you're writing at night? I
Speaker 2: would imagine it.
Speaker 10: Would be, yeah, because whenever I've seen EA scooter writers
Speaker 10: at night, I think they've just been you know, going
Speaker 10: slow and on the footpaths on residential roads.
Speaker 25: But I've never really had to.
Speaker 10: I mean, unless I'm just not seeing them, you know,
Speaker 10: whether I have not seen them at major intersections when
Speaker 10: I'm driving. But it's a scary thought because they're so
Speaker 10: quiet too, right, you don't necessarily hear them or see
Speaker 10: them coming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you're coming off a cycle away or
Speaker 2: of a path, or even they're not on the road,
Speaker 2: are they? Thank you? Anne? Thanks two chilling stories there.
Speaker 2: One double three eight eighty two is the phone number?
Speaker 2: Are you you know? And I ask, in the absence
Speaker 2: of knowing, are you required to have a by a
Speaker 2: light on your scooter if you're traveling at night? I
Speaker 2: would imagine you would be. And I don't know if
Speaker 2: you buy a thousand dollars scooter from jbhi Fi or
Speaker 2: wonder Lust, if you do, if they necessarily fix with
Speaker 2: front and rear lights permanently, I'm not sure. Get ay, Sue,
Speaker 2: how you going?
Speaker 26: Hi?
Speaker 27: Simon?
Speaker 2: Hi, I'm well, Sue, Thank you?
Speaker 28: Yeah? Good look.
Speaker 27: I feel very very strongly about the cycling you around
Speaker 27: Perth because we are faced with so many challenges already,
Speaker 27: with drivers that are very impatient, and I just feel
Speaker 27: like putting speed bumps in is just a prohibitive And
Speaker 27: to me, it's the whole government, the state government, local government.
Speaker 27: They are trying to get cyclists off the road. They're
Speaker 27: investing a lot of money into infrastructure, into mountain bike trails,
Speaker 27: gravel bike racing has become massive. More and more road
Speaker 27: races are being canceled. I mean, we've only got a
Speaker 27: look at the College of donny Brook. It's for last year.
Speaker 27: This year one hundred years of history. Tom Lowry, I
Speaker 27: just raced that the eighty fourth I think it was
Speaker 27: last year. Traffic management has just become so expensive and prohibitive.
Speaker 27: Volunteers aren't allowed to help, so these have been canceled.
Speaker 27: The Kelwallely Road Race was on this weekend, canceled because
Speaker 27: of traffic management. And I just feel like it's just
Speaker 27: a big plan to get us off the road.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're probably right, so sign to change, haven't they.
Speaker 2: So when I used to do triathons in the eighties
Speaker 2: and nineties to west to ride down the coast and
Speaker 2: up Bolt of Rebold Hill and around City Beach and
Speaker 2: around the city, but not anymore, and just.
Speaker 27: Even Rebold Hill, like I was training there Tuesday, we
Speaker 27: were doing repeats of Oceanic Now I can remember as
Speaker 27: little as five years ago at five point thirty in
Speaker 27: the morning, you would not see a car because we'd
Speaker 27: be finished by seven. Still, now we're doing the same thing.
Speaker 27: You would see fifty cars every sort of twenty minutes
Speaker 27: being through. It's crazy how much things have changed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no doubt. But thank thank you for your texting,
Speaker 2: your phone call, Sue, thank you cheers who's gone? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'd love to hear from you today. So Burt drive
Speaker 2: in added all the council is looking to change change
Speaker 2: that two point seven k bit of road. It's used
Speaker 2: extensively by cyclists in riding solo, in pairs, in threes,
Speaker 2: and in big packs in the pelotons. We'll try and
Speaker 2: find out a little bit, a little bit more as
Speaker 2: it goes on the lone voice in the Wilderness on
Speaker 2: this station. When it comes to being pro cycling, get
Speaker 2: a Kevin.
Speaker 14: Good timon how you're going, good mate, Simon. I just
Speaker 14: want I just wanted to relate my story about my
Speaker 14: encounter with an eat cyclist last week. I was coming
Speaker 14: back from Ocean Reef on Ocean Reef Road and and
Speaker 14: It was late at night, probably about nine o'clock at night,
Speaker 14: and I almost hit this scooter guy and I didn't
Speaker 14: see him until I was past him. He was he
Speaker 14: was totally in black and I didn't see him at
Speaker 14: all on the road.
Speaker 2: What was he doing? Right, So you're traveling down the road.
Speaker 2: Where was he going across? Badly?
Speaker 14: Was he?
Speaker 2: Was he on the on the road?
Speaker 14: Now he's on the side of the road, not not
Speaker 14: on the shoulder, but just in my almost in my
Speaker 14: lane but not quite, but completely oblivious to the danger
Speaker 14: that he'd put himself in.
Speaker 2: No lights.
Speaker 14: He was no lights, completely in black. I didn't see
Speaker 14: him until I was past him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Yeah, Kevin, you know, I imagine if
Speaker 2: you did him, Imagine how bad you'd feel forever if
Speaker 2: you did hurt him.
Speaker 14: Yes, exactly. I felt bad anyway, more out of shop
Speaker 14: than anything that I didn't see him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thanks mate, Thanks for your CAULP. Appreciate that
Speaker 2: this one here from Tipsy. My scooter has built in lights,
Speaker 2: but not really sufficient, especially late at night. Thanks Tipsy.
Speaker 2: Stopped playing on the roads is marked from Marrett River.
Speaker 2: So I think Mark's a pro cyclist, Jim says, roads
Speaker 2: are for commercial purposes to get from A to b,
Speaker 2: not for exercise, says you know, Jim, they're not, mate,
Speaker 2: You're allowed a light on the road, mate, they're not.
Speaker 2: So so when I drive to work, Jim or dry,
Speaker 2: I drive down the beach to have a walk. That's
Speaker 2: that's for commercial purposes, that may know, Jim. So I
Speaker 2: just allowed to ride on the road, mate, that's the rule.
Speaker 2: That's and and cycling keeps you know, keeps people healthy
Speaker 2: and doesn't clog up the health system. Anyway, I could
Speaker 2: go on. We'll come back now if you'd like to
Speaker 2: speak to Nick, you' john on one me up, Jim,
Speaker 2: it worked. Nick maru Chack's owing to join us from
Speaker 2: m k I legal in just a moment. But if
Speaker 2: you'd like to phone in if you have a law question,
Speaker 2: please call us one double three eight touty two. Nick
Speaker 2: Ruchak joins us from MKI Illegal on this Thursday morning day. Nick,
Speaker 2: how are you good?
Speaker 26: A bowie?
Speaker 2: I'm great. That's good now. That's a Tommy Hill figure
Speaker 2: jumbo and I like that. And one of our listeners,
Speaker 2: Jeff phone In, said that he thought that bloke's name
Speaker 2: was Tommy Hilfin garden.
Speaker 29: There's a funny story. I'm wearing this jump and my
Speaker 29: business partner asked me to bring in a green jumper
Speaker 29: because he's going to dress up as Ned Flanders on
Speaker 29: the weekend of a dress up party. So that's why
Speaker 29: we're today to get to him.
Speaker 2: It sounds like a hell of a party. One double
Speaker 2: three A Dody two. If you'd like to speak to
Speaker 2: Nick Ruchac today, you can. Simon and Danny will get
Speaker 2: to you guys in just a moment. Ring in Wonduble
Speaker 2: three A Daddy two is the phone number. Nick here
Speaker 2: to take your legal questions. Simon, Good morning, How are you.
Speaker 14: Simon?
Speaker 20: Nick?
Speaker 2: Hello?
Speaker 30: Mate?
Speaker 31: Yeah, I'm just a question about testing a will. I
Speaker 31: lost my father and sister six years ago. I lost
Speaker 31: my mother a couple of months ago, but no other siblings,
Speaker 31: so it's just me alone. Just wondering my sister's late
Speaker 31: sister's children. They have been given a substantial amount of
Speaker 31: money from my mother in the will. They're not happy
Speaker 31: with what they've got, so they are seeing they're entitled
Speaker 31: to half, which is what my sister and I probably
Speaker 31: would have been getting. Just wondering if they have any
Speaker 31: right to contest the will.
Speaker 29: Okay, So when it comes to contesting a will, there's
Speaker 29: only a class of people who can do it. So
Speaker 29: I just need to establish the relationship between the deceased
Speaker 29: person and the person who wants to challenge the will.
Speaker 29: So the decease, the relationship is one of grandparent and grandchild, right,
Speaker 29: the decease grandparent died and the grandchildren are looking at
Speaker 29: challenging the will. Is that right?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 29: Okay, So when it comes to that, grandchildren are in
Speaker 29: the class of categories that can challenge grandparents will, but
Speaker 29: they can only challenge it in specific circumstances, and they
Speaker 29: are if they are being maintained by the deceased immediately
Speaker 29: before death. So think of a situation where the grandchild
Speaker 29: is living with a grandparent and receiving money or school
Speaker 29: fees and stuff like that, or if the grandchild's parents died. Right,
Speaker 29: So they're the main situations that a grandchild can challenge
Speaker 29: grandparents will. If they don't meet that criteria, then they
Speaker 29: can't challenge. So do the grandchildren meet that criteria.
Speaker 31: Well, yeah, because their mother died six years ago my sister, then.
Speaker 29: Yeah, so that would be something that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 29: So then because they were stepping the shoes of your
Speaker 29: of your sister. And so this is the situation, right,
Speaker 29: they don't automatically get anything from the will that they
Speaker 29: have to that the court will look at whether the
Speaker 29: will should be adjusted, so whether they should be given
Speaker 29: something from the will, and they look at a whole
Speaker 29: bunch of factors regarding that. They have to launch a
Speaker 29: claim within six months of probate being issued, so at
Speaker 29: this stage is probably good to get some legal advice
Speaker 29: about that. So you'll go and get probate first. Then
Speaker 29: that six month windows ticks in. If they don't do
Speaker 29: anything within the six months, then the time limits expired
Speaker 29: and unless you extend time, that's it. So there's probably
Speaker 29: something that you might want to investigate it. Someone who
Speaker 29: I recommend is a lease a Lease Croft from croft Bridge,
Speaker 29: Croft Bridge there in Perth. She does a lot of
Speaker 29: contested estates wills, so that's someone you can speak to
Speaker 29: about what are the prospects of them getting up?
Speaker 2: How is that? Simon?
Speaker 13: Does that hit?
Speaker 2: And I'm very sorry for your losses, Simon, And that's
Speaker 2: a lot for one person to have to deal with
Speaker 2: and then to put up with this as well. Does
Speaker 2: that help you, mate?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 31: It gives me a bit of an insight. Yeah.
Speaker 12: Thanks, Yeah, I'll.
Speaker 31: Contact that CrossBridge and yeah, thank you represents they decided
Speaker 31: to do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good luck mate, that's I'm sorry for those losses
Speaker 2: in the last six years. Simon having chat to Nick. There,
Speaker 2: gooda Danny, Hi there, how are you Nick?
Speaker 29: Good Danny?
Speaker 32: My nephew was charged with a defaming or threatening a
Speaker 32: politician on Facebook. Now he they came out and arrested
Speaker 32: him and took possession of his computers and stuff. The
Speaker 32: date on the paperwork is wrong when he's gone to court,
Speaker 32: and they also cannot find the original evidence of him
Speaker 32: threatening this politician. Where does he stand in regard to being.
Speaker 28: In court with that?
Speaker 29: So when it comes to the paperwork is wrong, that's
Speaker 29: called the statement of material facts, so that can be adjusted.
Speaker 29: Sometimes the prosecution make it a date wrong here and there,
Speaker 29: But when it comes to criminal law, the prosecution has
Speaker 29: the burden of proving the case beyond reasonable doubt, so
Speaker 29: they would need to tender that evidence. I wouldn't say
Speaker 29: too much about this case on radio because this conversation
Speaker 29: itself can be used as evidence, so don't give them anything,
Speaker 29: and so they have to prove it. Your nephew has
Speaker 29: the right to silence, which means that he can just
Speaker 29: sit there and go, well, prove the case. He can
Speaker 29: challenge the evidence to say hasn't met the standard of
Speaker 29: beyond reasonable doubt. So this is one that I would
Speaker 29: get some legal assistance on. The government has it Legal
Speaker 29: a program where they do give criminal lawyers your nephew
Speaker 29: access to criminal layers if you can't afford one. That's
Speaker 29: the route that I would go to. And if you
Speaker 29: get a criminal lawyer and if they've lost this key evidence,
Speaker 29: you would just challenge on that and if everything goes well,
Speaker 29: get the case. We'll get dismissed because they haven't or
Speaker 29: finding I'm not guilty. So that's the next step legal
Speaker 29: aid and get a lawyer there, and you can also
Speaker 29: get a juty lawyer as well.
Speaker 2: So that that notion of you know, a Facebook post
Speaker 2: or a social media post is regarded as as a
Speaker 2: publication and it is published. Even if it's disappeared, it's
Speaker 2: still it can be found canted, it's still regarded as published.
Speaker 29: That's right, it is published, and it's we don't often
Speaker 29: hear of criminal defamation charges. It is actually an offense
Speaker 29: and it does exist in the books and so it
Speaker 29: doesn't happen often. But this case was a prominent figure,
Speaker 29: so it did happen, so they can get it. So
Speaker 29: it's the prosecution's job to try and find it right,
Speaker 29: So they would have to do all kinds of stuff
Speaker 29: like maybe they have the subpoena Facebook and go go
Speaker 29: through that process to get it. I would imagine if
Speaker 29: it was published then it would exist somewhere in the
Speaker 29: ether of the ones and zeros. But it's their job,
Speaker 29: so make it harder for them, not easier.
Speaker 33: Does that helped any Yes, it certainly does.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you Danny, thanks for punning. In eighteen
Speaker 2: and a half minutes to eleven o'clock, Mark is one
Speaker 2: of our listeners. He's an uber driver and I think
Speaker 2: you might have heard this where you were waiting to
Speaker 2: come on. It's a bizarre situation. Mark's Nuba driver delivering
Speaker 2: milk to an Australia Post outlet. Delivers the milk gets
Speaker 2: according to Mark, and this is his version of events,
Speaker 2: he gets detained against his will. Let's have a listened
Speaker 2: to Mark from earlier on.
Speaker 18: I had an order for three bottles of milk today
Speaker 18: for Australia Post Malaga. I went there and I was
Speaker 18: held against my will for over ten minutes because the
Speaker 18: guy thought that I must be a terrorist because I
Speaker 18: was delivering milk to Australia Post.
Speaker 2: Basic question, and this is Mark's version of events. Nick
Speaker 2: in a very bizarre situation. If true. Not that I'm
Speaker 2: doubting Mark, but I guess there's always two sides to
Speaker 2: every story. Can can a business holder person against their
Speaker 2: will if if they regarding them as trespassing?
Speaker 29: So this is there's a few things going on here, right,
Speaker 29: So make on the face of it, may have a
Speaker 29: claim in taught for false imprisonment right, So false amphrisment
Speaker 29: is a civil claim. Basically, it's where you have been
Speaker 29: prevented from leaving, so they restrict your freedom. So I've
Speaker 29: seen the video, They've closed the gate. He told them
Speaker 29: he wants to leave, they prevented him from leaving. Right,
Speaker 29: So what happens here is Australia Post has to prove
Speaker 29: that they had some sort of authority, some sort of
Speaker 29: either statutory or common law authority to hold Mark. That's
Speaker 29: the question, right, So if he was in an area
Speaker 29: where he shouldn't have been there, say it was potentially
Speaker 29: a tress bars then maybe taking steps to determine if
Speaker 29: a criminal offense has been committed or not, maybe reasonable justification.
Speaker 29: But if he wasn't in an area, if he was
Speaker 29: an area that was easily accessible by everyone, then that
Speaker 29: there wasn't there would not be any justification and Mark
Speaker 29: would get up on that. So it's on the face
Speaker 29: of it, there is a potential claim here. You're potentially
Speaker 29: right to Australia Post to assert that there's been that
Speaker 29: false imprisonment taught been broken, and then it comes down
Speaker 29: to if he gets up on that, then it comes
Speaker 29: down to damages, right, and we have this law called
Speaker 29: the Civil Liabilities Act, which if you want to get
Speaker 29: damages for pain and suffering then you basically have to
Speaker 29: cross this threshold which is about twenty five thousand dollars.
Speaker 29: So if you see someone and your pain and suffering
Speaker 29: under state law is less than twenty five k, you
Speaker 29: get zero. This law was passed by insurance companies as well.
Speaker 29: So if he's been detained for ten minutes and you know,
Speaker 29: maybe he's suffered five thousand dollars worth of pain and suffering,
Speaker 29: so that we've reduced to zero. So that's also a
Speaker 29: secondary issue here that may make it more difficult to
Speaker 29: commence this claim, but it's worthwhile calling a personal injury loyal.
Speaker 29: They do these kind of claims all the time. They
Speaker 29: do often no win, no fear, giving them a call
Speaker 29: and just saying, hey, is this is there a claim
Speaker 29: here or not?
Speaker 2: Is it worth?
Speaker 29: Is worth pursuing?
Speaker 2: So thanks Nikka, well answered bizarre So the circumstances, it
Speaker 2: would seem. And the other question that comes to mind
Speaker 2: for me is do we get milk and bottles anymore?
Speaker 29: We don't get it delivered, but I've seen them in
Speaker 29: the shops. I've seen I think bottles are milk because
Speaker 29: of microplastics, right, so if you have a glass glass container,
Speaker 29: it's probably a little bit slightly more healthy for you,
Speaker 29: but they cost a lot more.
Speaker 4: Dope.
Speaker 2: They thank you, thank you for thank you for going
Speaker 2: with me on that one double three eight eighty two
Speaker 2: tours tort yep. I remember that from remember that from
Speaker 2: when I went to school a long time ago. Quarter
Speaker 2: to eleven. We'll come back more of Nick marujack your
Speaker 2: phone in one double three eight eighty two, Milton's SMSU Nikki,
Speaker 2: She's about to study law next year. So I'm just
Speaker 2: finishing off my bridging course. It'll be online. I was
Speaker 2: wondering what undergraduate it had to take so I can
Speaker 2: go into the full law degree later on. Any tip
Speaker 2: you can give me, says Milton.
Speaker 29: So once you've done your law degree, then you want
Speaker 29: to train and get some work experience, and then after
Speaker 29: you've graduated, you have to go and do some post
Speaker 29: post articles.
Speaker 2: It's not yeah, we.
Speaker 29: Don't do it anymore. You do something called College of Law, right,
Speaker 29: So you'll do You're going to College of Laws where
Speaker 29: a lot of there's other education providers. You go there,
Speaker 29: they give you, you know, some training for a few months,
Speaker 29: and then you have to do some work experience placements, right,
Speaker 29: So it could be twenty days up to seventy five
Speaker 29: days something like that. So that usually takes about six
Speaker 29: months to a year to complete. After you graduated, and
Speaker 29: then you're fully fledged lawyer and you'll be you have
Speaker 29: to work supervised for two years.
Speaker 2: So Milton's question is about what undergraduate course he should take.
Speaker 29: I think, well, you need to do a law degree. Yeah,
Speaker 29: so you'll need to Some unis will make you do
Speaker 29: an undergrad first before you do a.
Speaker 2: Law degree be a generic one, comments Yeah.
Speaker 29: Yeah, look, okay, so there's you know, I think anything
Speaker 29: that makes you more valuable. Right, So if you want
Speaker 29: to go into say an area of like tech technology
Speaker 29: and law, you might do with some sort of tech degree.
Speaker 29: I did a commerce degree, right, something very general that
Speaker 29: really helps. But I think that there's a whole variety
Speaker 29: of great degrees you can do. And yeah, so I
Speaker 29: can't really pick one at the moment, but commerce is
Speaker 29: a generic one. If you want to do that.
Speaker 2: Mill time that help make commerce maybe or if it
Speaker 2: is going to be more specific it or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: So thanks, good luck, Milton, thanks for getting in contact.
Speaker 2: So a long SMS from Robert here. Nick Oh, I
Speaker 2: go through as succinctly as I can. Nick. I recently
Speaker 2: won a court order against a tenant that have maliciously
Speaker 2: damaged my property the tune of nearly ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: The former tenants refused to reply to my emails to
Speaker 2: work out a way to pay their debts. I'm now
Speaker 2: looking at trying to enforce the court order, but it
Speaker 2: costs hundreds of dollars. There's no guarantee they even have
Speaker 2: a forwarding address. I try to ask the magest at
Speaker 2: court if they can tell me if they have afording address,
Speaker 2: but they will not disclose this just don't want to
Speaker 2: throw my money at this if they can't enforce it.
Speaker 2: Is there any way I can get the court to
Speaker 2: confirm if they have an address for the previous tenant.
Speaker 29: So the court probably can't give you that information, but
Speaker 29: this is I'll give you some general overview of what
Speaker 29: you need to do. So you've got a court order,
Speaker 29: so the next step is to enforce the court order.
Speaker 29: That means you have to file some paperwork with a court.
Speaker 29: Then this person is brought into court and then wages
Speaker 29: might be garnished and stuff like that. Right, But the
Speaker 29: problem is you have to kind of serve that and
Speaker 29: serving means giving it to them by hand. So if
Speaker 29: you can't find someone, there is a process, right you
Speaker 29: have to take reasonable steps to try and locate their address.
Speaker 29: One quick tip is the electoral role. So if you
Speaker 29: go everyone has to be registered to vote. You can
Speaker 29: go into the electoral office and you can go into
Speaker 29: their computers and find someone's name, right, So that's an avenue.
Speaker 29: Other ways that you can do an assex search to
Speaker 29: see if they own any businesses. Obviously this guy is renting,
Speaker 29: so you can't do a landgate search. But so you're
Speaker 29: trying your best to try and find this where this
Speaker 29: person lives. If you can't find where this person lives,
Speaker 29: then what you have to do is apply for substituted service.
Speaker 29: So you go to the court and say, hey, I
Speaker 29: don't know where this person is. I can't give them
Speaker 29: the court documents by hand. Can you please allow me
Speaker 29: to serve them by email? Can you please allow me
Speaker 29: to serve them by text message? So if you've taken
Speaker 29: all steps to try and find their to try and
Speaker 29: give it to them by hand, and you haven't been
Speaker 29: able to do that, then the court will give you
Speaker 29: substituted service. And it sounds like reading this message, he's
Speaker 29: got the email, so you can serve it by email.
Speaker 29: But I reckon just do this yourself. Ask the call
Speaker 29: the process. Hey, what's the forms of substituted service? Fill
Speaker 29: out an AFFI David, and obviously tech steps to try
Speaker 29: and find where they are.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Robert, I hope that helps let us know
Speaker 2: how you go mate. That's very interesting. What was the
Speaker 2: Australian Electrical Commission angle you had there, Yeah, find.
Speaker 29: An electoral role.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 29: So yeah, these are the things that you can't just
Speaker 29: go online and search for anyone's address. You have to
Speaker 29: go into person and you have to actually look in
Speaker 29: their computers and write it down, right, so they won't
Speaker 29: allow you to take any photos and stuff like that.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 29: That's that's a tactic that's often been found. Yeah, and
Speaker 29: it just you have to wait for this guy. You
Speaker 29: have to kind of get on there. You have to
Speaker 29: update your details every time there's an election. So if
Speaker 29: you updated, if this tenant updated it recently this recent election,
Speaker 29: you know you might have a current address.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, very interesting. One double three A daddy two
Speaker 2: is the is the phone number if you'd like to
Speaker 2: speak to Nick. We've got a couple of minutes if
Speaker 2: you'd like to give him a call. One double three
Speaker 2: A daddy two. Just a new court case could see
Speaker 2: childcare payments become tax deductible.
Speaker 29: Really, yes, So the rule is from this there's a
Speaker 29: precedent from the High Court from nineteen seventy two where
Speaker 29: someone tried to deduct nursery school fees and the court
Speaker 29: said no, this is a private and domestic expense. You
Speaker 29: can't deduct it. So if you're going to deduct something
Speaker 29: on your taxes, it has to be used to produce
Speaker 29: accessible income and it cannot be for private or domestic nature.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 29: So we have this law firm in the Eastern States
Speaker 29: that is preparing a claim on behalf of one of
Speaker 29: their clients to say, well, childcare fees I are actually,
Speaker 29: you know, help me earn accessible income. And so they're
Speaker 29: trying to get this really old law from the nineteen
Speaker 29: seventies overturned.
Speaker 2: Game changer it would be.
Speaker 29: And if that actually get up on that, then so
Speaker 29: many people can deduct their childcare expensive. Childca is expensive.
Speaker 29: I've got a four year old and it's just a lot,
Speaker 29: So it would be a big win for a lot
Speaker 29: of working parents out The argument is that you know,
Speaker 29: a lot's changed since nineteen seventy one. Maybe back then
Speaker 29: there weren't as many single parents or working parents. Now
Speaker 29: that dynamics completely changed. So these people are arguing this law.
Speaker 29: Fan's arguing, which has got to get with the times.
Speaker 29: And you had a four year old, nick Ah, Yeah,
Speaker 29: just one one little chilly one, a.
Speaker 2: Little Simon or a little Simone. Yeah, a little Lev,
Speaker 2: a little Lev for me, little lev how cool. I
Speaker 2: didn't know that about you one double three eight e two.
Speaker 2: He could snee ski squeeze in a call if you'd
Speaker 2: like to ring Nick marou Chak. A lot of people
Speaker 2: are asking us when still Steve Kilby's on. We've got
Speaker 2: a musician coming on for formerly of the church, Nick
Speaker 2: and he's he's going to be on is it twelve
Speaker 2: thirty sew twelve thirty Steve Kilby will be on listeners
Speaker 2: for those of you that are asking, and we continue
Speaker 2: our yes no poll. I'll bring you up to date
Speaker 2: with that on after eleven o'clock. WA's Legal Practice Board. Nick,
Speaker 2: there's been a hack and it's his bank details of
Speaker 2: legal firms stolen. So it's a cyber investigation and it's
Speaker 2: from it's in our paper today.
Speaker 29: Yeah, that's right. So the Legal Practice Board is the
Speaker 29: umpire that regulates lawyers. They allow lawyers to come into
Speaker 29: the profession, they kick lawyers out who are no good.
Speaker 29: They have a lot of control. So they've been hacked
Speaker 29: and they've been about three hundred gigs of data has
Speaker 29: been stolen and a lot of correspondence. But there's also
Speaker 29: some bank accounts of lawyers. The Legal Practice Board says
Speaker 29: that only limited amount of bank accounts that have been disclosed,
Speaker 29: and they've already let those people know. But the Legal
Speaker 29: Practice Board went and got a court order to stop,
Speaker 29: to get an injunction, to get a court order to
Speaker 29: stop anyone from disseminating or reading this information. But the
Speaker 29: cats out of the bag. And the reality is they
Speaker 29: don't know, they don't really know exactly how much has
Speaker 29: been taken, and this hacking group is now going to
Speaker 29: start releasing things over the next month. So a lot
Speaker 29: of lawyers are worried, a lot of annoyed as well.
Speaker 29: I think the Legal Practice Board got some egg on
Speaker 29: their face and so, but this also coincides with we've
Speaker 29: got a law has been passed in twenty twenty four
Speaker 29: that'll probably take effect next next year which requires government
Speaker 29: agencies to take better steps to guard privacy. So this
Speaker 29: will apply to government departments, and this will apply to
Speaker 29: anyone who services contracts for government departments. Okay, So it's
Speaker 29: so hopefully in twenty twenty six when this takes effect,
Speaker 29: wa government agencies are going to get better at this
Speaker 29: because you know, there's so many hacks. And the Privacy
Speaker 29: Commissioner says that law firms are up in the top five.
Speaker 29: They just easily target, especially small regulators that may have
Speaker 29: not done proper things to protect them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the cybersecurity is such a huge issue, isn't it. Nick?
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you for your thoughts, compassion and wisdom today.
Speaker 2: Look forward to catching up with you next week. Light
Speaker 2: the Green Jumper like the Tommy hillf and garden Jumper,
Speaker 2: I like it. Thank you, Thank you, jeers mate, Nick,
Speaker 2: Maru Jack mk Illegal be back with this next week
Speaker 2: at the same time. It's three and a half minutes
Speaker 2: to eleven o'clock. Thank you for listening. Why is Australia
Speaker 2: Post ordering milk through ubers? Is you know? I'm sure
Speaker 2: it'll be cheaper to buy it at Cole's. How will
Speaker 2: we buy We buy a lot of milk here, I
Speaker 2: reckon per capita. We buy more milk per capita than
Speaker 2: any other business in Perth. I reckon. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: where we buy it from, but it turns up in
Speaker 2: a milk crate and usually one of our big strong
Speaker 2: sales stuff like Ron Moore or someone brings it in.
Speaker 2: Is it over for the Woodside protesters? The Yester twelve
Speaker 2: and the Nose of forty six, so big response on
Speaker 2: this one. Col says, no, I don't think the protesters
Speaker 2: will stop. Thanks cal climate change is happening. We're still
Speaker 2: with the gas so it's an ongoing dilemma. Thanks good man.
Speaker 2: Eleven o'clock now.
Speaker 1: On Perth six PR. This is Perth Today with Simon Beaumont.
Speaker 2: Thanks for listening into Perth Today. I'm Simon Beaumont, as
Speaker 2: that nice man said here until one o'clock at today.
Speaker 2: It was said to be post election. It was said
Speaker 2: to be the biggest climate based issue in Australia, the
Speaker 2: extension of the Woodside Project lease. And yesterday Murray Watt
Speaker 2: said he go, he can be there until twenty seventy.
Speaker 2: We hear some conditions, you need to meet them. You've
Speaker 2: got ten days to get back to me and then
Speaker 2: we'll probably try and tick it off. So it's said
Speaker 2: to be the biggest climates based decision that this government
Speaker 2: was going to make. They've made it yesterday or really
Speaker 2: started to make it, and we've asked the question today
Speaker 2: is it now over for the Woodside protesters. At the
Speaker 2: top of the show today, I chronicled some of the
Speaker 2: hardline activism events midnight Oil getting involved, John Butler's been involved,
Speaker 2: Angie Mahon's been involved, Indie singer songwriter protests at Meg
Speaker 2: O'Neil's house. That the facing of down on his luck
Speaker 2: at the art gallery the Woodside, the protest against Woodside Nippers,
Speaker 2: and the protest against Frio Doc has been sponsored by Woodside,
Speaker 2: and so it goes. So that is the reason we're
Speaker 2: asking the question today is over for the Woodside protest
Speaker 2: as the Yester twelve and the Nose of forty eight.
Speaker 2: So our listeners believe that the Woodside protests will continue.
Speaker 2: They have been painted as the absolute death star of
Speaker 2: environmental vandalism by the activists, and our listeners think it will,
Speaker 2: it will continue. Thanks for your thoughts, really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: You will keep a poll going right through until one
Speaker 2: o'clock today. We've had a couple of listeners asking about
Speaker 2: Steve Kilby, who is the singer, songwriter, frontman, bass player
Speaker 2: from the Mighty Band The Church. He's a bit of
Speaker 2: the Church. He's a bit of the Church. Thanks Max,
Speaker 2: What a song? What a song you like that? Macine
Speaker 2: so good? Unguarded moment. Steve Kilby is playing at the
Speaker 2: Milk Bar tonight in Ingwood. That's from seven o'clock. He's
Speaker 2: got some mates with him, Jack Frost, which is the
Speaker 2: album Grant mcclannin's got some strings there tonight he's playing
Speaker 2: some church songs. We're going to speak to St Steve Kilby,
Speaker 2: who sometimes has been described as Steve Gilby by announcers
Speaker 2: who who haven't got their act together, but still Steve
Speaker 2: Kilby is playing at the Milk Bar in Inglewood tonight.
Speaker 2: How good Steve Kilby from the church will join us
Speaker 2: on the program in about an hour and a half's time.
Speaker 2: I love this from Alien. We've talked to our listener Mark,
Speaker 2: who reckons he was detained without permission at Australia Post
Speaker 2: this morning delivering some milk as an uber driver. Aileen,
Speaker 2: you're funny, you're the voice of reason. You're also funny
Speaker 2: if Australia Posts can't get their milk delivered efficiently, delivered
Speaker 2: efficiently without incident. What I hope is there for our mail?
Speaker 2: No wonder it's in trouble as a business Ailien. That
Speaker 2: is excellent work for you. One double three eighty two
Speaker 2: is the is the phone number if you like to
Speaker 2: get in touch with us today. Chriss phone in, did
Speaker 2: I Chris, yeah, Diday.
Speaker 4: Mate, just wondering after years of court case protesters being
Speaker 4: able to lodge their appeal protests, now the bird it's
Speaker 4: been made to continued protests being harassment because it's different
Speaker 4: to protest if your case haven't mentioned in front of
Speaker 4: a court or in front of a hearing well once
Speaker 4: the desions made, shouldn't go again.
Speaker 2: Harassment because I don't know. I don't know, full stop
Speaker 2: new paragraph. I don't know if harassment is a crime.
Speaker 2: I suppose you can protest lawfully and unlawfully, Chris. And
Speaker 2: we have seen four of the bur up Hub you know,
Speaker 2: disrupt borrop Hub protesters have been have been before the
Speaker 2: courts when they trespassed at Meg O'Neil's house with intent
Speaker 2: to trespass at least and they were peened by the
Speaker 2: cops who were mysteriously tipped off as was mysteriously a
Speaker 2: crew from four Corners they my seriously tipped off as well.
Speaker 2: You reckon tip them off one if that was the protesters.
Speaker 2: But I don't know, mate, I guess the look. I
Speaker 2: think I'm an on this one. I think the protest
Speaker 2: will continue, but the hard line protests that some of
Speaker 2: the political activism hasn't just hasn't worked. And I think
Speaker 2: I'm okay to say this. I know Raylene Cooper who's
Speaker 2: an elder, a First Nations woman from the area, from
Speaker 2: the damp Here Burrob area. She is taking Murray What
Speaker 2: to court over this particular issue. So yeah, there's protests, mate,
Speaker 2: and the either lawful or unlawful, and there's mechanisms whereby
Speaker 2: protest groups and activists can try to head projects off
Speaker 2: at the pass. You can mount a very strong argument,
Speaker 2: certainly in my world and in our listeners world, that
Speaker 2: the hardline activism has not worked, given what we heard yesterday.
Speaker 2: Thanks Chris, thanks for your care. Mate. David Smith is
Speaker 2: the chairman of the Connolly Sos action group, joins me.
Speaker 34: Now coulda Dave, good day, Simon, and good day to
Speaker 34: your listeners.
Speaker 2: You've had a win. You and I talked a little
Speaker 2: while ago there was a potential for some apartments being
Speaker 2: built on the site of the Journal up resort, and
Speaker 2: looks like you've had a win with council.
Speaker 34: Yes, indeed, you know the last time we spoke is
Speaker 34: much anxiety amongst residents and everybody in the community. But
Speaker 34: that soon turned to jubilation and celebration on Tuesday night
Speaker 34: when the councilors voted in simple majority to oppose the
Speaker 34: local development Plan. So it's been a wonderful win for everybody,
Speaker 34: and we just want to thank the councilors for supporting
Speaker 34: the local residents. That's very important, and also to thank
Speaker 34: the residents for believing in us that we could actually
Speaker 34: get this to the point where we are at the present.
Speaker 2: Moment, David, is that's the prevailing mood jubilant? Is there
Speaker 2: any way for the proponents of the development to come
Speaker 2: back at this?
Speaker 34: Yes, there is. There's a couple of avenues that can take.
Speaker 34: They can obviously appeal to the what it's called the
Speaker 34: SDAU and obviously try and see whether they can get
Speaker 34: an opportunity to have decision reviewed. But obviously there's some
Speaker 34: other considerations that have to be taken into place when
Speaker 34: it goes through that mechanism, if you like. And my
Speaker 34: what we are really looking for is an opportunity to
Speaker 34: get all stakeholders around the table so we can do
Speaker 34: the right thing for the community, for the environment and everybody,
Speaker 34: and including addressing things like they're housing shortages that we
Speaker 34: experience and so on. So that's what we're hoping that
Speaker 34: we will get to at.
Speaker 4: The end of the day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so you will go to the State
Speaker 2: Administry of tribuneal I do know from because I read
Speaker 2: the Post newspaper group. I read this City Post every Friday.
Speaker 2: Sometimes accouncil may reject thing, but SAT may approve it.
Speaker 34: That is quite right. So this is often the case.
Speaker 34: But obviously they've got to treat things in their merits.
Speaker 34: And in this particular instance, the circumstances and the environment
Speaker 34: is very, very different to other things that they've considered
Speaker 34: in the past. Yep, so it will be quite a
Speaker 34: unique one, should I say, in this particular instance, And
Speaker 34: that's why I do believe that common sense will prevail
Speaker 34: and people will see a different side of the story
Speaker 34: that we would like to present. And I'm quite sure
Speaker 34: that you'll find an vicable solutions between us.
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Dave, well well done. I'm jubilant to
Speaker 2: a point, and we'll wait to see what whats that
Speaker 2: comes up with. Thanks for chatting to us.
Speaker 34: It's a pleasure, simon. Thanks for keeping in touch with
Speaker 34: us and keeping our story up on the air.
Speaker 2: Thank you, mate. David cheers mate, David Smith. I think
Speaker 2: he's at the dentist today, is he David? And says
Speaker 2: he's the chairman of the Connolly SOS action groups. Accounts
Speaker 2: of the city of Journal. Love of knocked back the
Speaker 2: developments on the Journal Loup resorts which were said to
Speaker 2: be three buildings fourteen twelve and six stories on the
Speaker 2: golf course. There are properties adjoining the golf course, and
Speaker 2: that those little colder sacks and those little streets there
Speaker 2: not being not back at this stage, but we'll go
Speaker 2: to Sat. It's coming up the fifteen and a half
Speaker 2: minutes past eleven. Love to hear from you today. Roger
Speaker 2: has sent us in a text so I'm an interesting
Speaker 2: discussion regarding cyclists and road use. Thank you Roger. It
Speaker 2: is millions spent on bike paths and still the like
Speaker 2: brigade use the road with a bike path on site,
Speaker 2: often double file. Now wonder motorists becoming patient and intolerant, intolerant.
Speaker 2: Plat's time to introduce licensing for cyclists And yes I'm
Speaker 2: a cyclist, Roger. The best example I can think of
Speaker 2: that is probably Burke Drive. There is people ride on
Speaker 2: Burke Driving in great number. As I said, singles, doubles,
Speaker 2: triples or in pelotons. The cycleway, mate, he's just not
Speaker 2: designed to have bikes on it, isn't it. It's short,
Speaker 2: it's got turns, it weaves through trees, so that's poorly designed.
Speaker 2: I do understand, you know. I often see big pelotons,
Speaker 2: big packs riding down Mount's Bay Road on the Old
Speaker 2: Puppa's Ride for example. That is, they don't use the
Speaker 2: cycle away there. They use the main road because they
Speaker 2: want to spread out and practice sprinting and all of that.
Speaker 2: And I am pro cycling, but I'm also pro licensing.
Speaker 2: I don't reckon that's a bad idea at all, Roger.
Speaker 2: If you're on a pushy on a grid hacker and
Speaker 2: you're using the road, you probably should pay a licen fee,
Speaker 2: even if you do it through your car. Rejoe. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I'm okay with that one. I reckon. Maybe cycles could
Speaker 2: pay twenty thirty fifty bucks a year to license their bikes.
Speaker 2: Good luck getting to do it, and good luck policing it.
Speaker 2: Seventeen minutes past eleven, I'm Simon Beimont Brandon, one of
Speaker 2: our correspondences. I first heard of the church the Band
Speaker 2: of the church when they opened with them and the
Speaker 2: divine or supporting Chris Isaac dan Free in two thousand
Speaker 2: and seven, I was only twenty under the Milky Way.
Speaker 2: How good year Rolling Stone Magazine a few years ago
Speaker 2: Brendan said it's the greatest Australian song of the last
Speaker 2: twenty years. So I'll ask Steve killbe you about that.
Speaker 2: That coming up on just a moment. We do have
Speaker 2: a couple of traffics related stories coming up for you
Speaker 2: in the next little while on Perth today. One of
Speaker 2: them is the issue of Burt. I've an added art
Speaker 2: which we've been discussing this morning. Very very popular bit
Speaker 2: of a cycling kit for people who ride around the river.
Speaker 2: It's two point seven k's in length, goes and Canning
Speaker 2: Highway right through to the Point Water golf course. Katie
Speaker 2: Mayor is the mayor obviously of Melow joins us now,
Speaker 2: Hey Katie.
Speaker 35: Oh, Hi Simon, how are you?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you. This is a very busy
Speaker 2: bit of road, particularly for the ciphing crew, isn't it.
Speaker 34: Oh?
Speaker 35: It's very popular because it's by the water. It's absolutely delightful,
Speaker 35: beautiful drive.
Speaker 2: What are you thinking here?
Speaker 29: Well?
Speaker 35: We've got a petition from sixty four people saying that
Speaker 35: they wanted something done about speeding and noisy cars and
Speaker 35: motorbikes traveling along there and bicycles and so on like that.
Speaker 35: And I think there's been about eighteen crashes over a
Speaker 35: three or four year period, and so the council made
Speaker 35: a decision to just the other night to make sure
Speaker 35: there was a traffic study. Now, the traffic study is
Speaker 35: going to happen in the current in the coming financial years,
Speaker 35: so that's twenty five twenty six, and after that they'll
Speaker 35: present the options to the community. Whatever they come up with,
Speaker 35: the council will have a look at it and then
Speaker 35: we can make a decision. But yeah, it's very challenging.
Speaker 35: It's a very beautiful piece of road.
Speaker 2: It sure is. Yeah, it's a nice houses, great view
Speaker 2: the big Dog Park between the road and the river.
Speaker 2: It's a good bit of a good bit of real estate.
Speaker 2: Is it fifty k's an hour at the moment, Katie.
Speaker 35: Yeah, it's fifty k's an hour, And it looks like
Speaker 35: from what I've seen of the graphs that the people
Speaker 35: are generally in that range. But you know, obviously there's
Speaker 35: other factors so oh, there was a bit of a
Speaker 35: funny story about a few I mean, this has been
Speaker 35: going on for quite some time, the complaints about noise
Speaker 35: and so on like that, and traffic. And there was
Speaker 35: one fellow who said, oh, you know, he wanted to
Speaker 35: have a speed trap put along me to catch all
Speaker 35: the speeders. Well, the funny thing was that actually his
Speaker 35: son ended up getting a speeding ticket. The local residents
Speaker 35: really do need to slow down a little bit.
Speaker 18: Also.
Speaker 35: I know they're in a hurry to get home, but
Speaker 35: they need to be mindful that it is the big k.
Speaker 35: So let's not just blame the outsiders that use the
Speaker 35: road some sciences, actually the locals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is funny, Hey, Katie, sixty four complaints. Are
Speaker 2: they from people who live along the road or live
Speaker 2: in the area.
Speaker 35: Oh yes, yes, I gathered there from local residents that
Speaker 35: are concerned. So they put together this petition and presented
Speaker 35: it to council and the response to the petition is
Speaker 35: that there will be a traffic study to have a
Speaker 35: look at what to do. And you know, councilors who're
Speaker 35: just a bit worried it's just going to be a
Speaker 35: whole lot of speed humps. But the officers have assured
Speaker 35: us they're going to look at other types of options
Speaker 35: because yeah, you know, we've got a lot of speed
Speaker 35: humps already, and I think there's a bit of arching
Speaker 35: up in the community about the amount.
Speaker 2: You know, some of our listeners who are cyclist Katie
Speaker 2: have been in contact with us today. There's still a
Speaker 2: lot to be able to get through there at thirty
Speaker 2: thirty k's an our young standard cycling speed. I mean
Speaker 2: you can get through the back roads back through out
Speaker 2: of Dale and around there, but you're not trying to
Speaker 2: get cycles out of the area, are you.
Speaker 9: No.
Speaker 35: No, no, not at all, not at all. We've actually
Speaker 35: got a cycle path as you would probably know, along
Speaker 35: the foreshore. We don't have one along the road because
Speaker 35: the officers have said that really the bikes that go
Speaker 35: on the road are generally commuter bikes and they're moving
Speaker 35: fairly quickly and generally in groups, so they wouldn't sit
Speaker 35: on a cycle path even if we've put one along
Speaker 35: the drive. So that's the thinking at the moment. It
Speaker 35: doesn't mean that thinking can't change during the study. But no, no,
Speaker 35: there's no thought at all of getting cyclists offt there
Speaker 35: at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the cycle way, as you say, does
Speaker 2: go alongside the river, but we through the trees near
Speaker 2: the football over there, whose name eludes me at the moment,
Speaker 2: but that's It's okay if you're having a jog or
Speaker 2: a walk, but maybe not a maybe not for bikes.
Speaker 2: So Katie will probably go more in committing Yeah, probably
Speaker 2: know more in a couple of months time. Hey, Katie,
Speaker 2: your question without notice the we're doing an outside broadcast
Speaker 2: at the I think it's the it's over by the
Speaker 2: dome on the on the other side.
Speaker 9: Of you know net where the oh seat water Point.
Speaker 2: Deepwater Point. Yeah, I think we're heading down there next week.
Speaker 2: Maybe if you get a moment, come down and say hello,
Speaker 2: because we're both Brecky and mornings. Will be down in
Speaker 2: Perth now sorry.
Speaker 9: Perth to day, fantastic time.
Speaker 2: What time will be Well, the boys will be there
Speaker 2: from five thirty and I'll be down there from from
Speaker 2: nine o'clock. So if you get a moment drop in
Speaker 2: and say hello, hey.
Speaker 35: Oh definitely will yeah, all right, okay on Saturday, Saturday or.
Speaker 2: Sunday next Wednesday?
Speaker 35: Oh sorry Wednesday, Yeah to get downe okay, great, look
Speaker 35: forward to catching up.
Speaker 2: All right, We'll have a cup of tea. Thanks Katie. Cheers,
Speaker 2: Thank you, Katie.
Speaker 4: Mayor.
Speaker 2: So the mayor of the City of melbur was so
Speaker 2: twelve month study to look at all of the traffic
Speaker 2: through there. I think Katie said that the commuter groups
Speaker 2: are getting through there in the big packs or commuting commuters.
Speaker 2: Are you know, people writing to work? Aren't they are
Speaker 2: writing home? I think she's talking about the exercise crew
Speaker 2: of the Pelotons, and they do get through there in great number.
Speaker 2: It's one of those parts of Perth where there is
Speaker 2: a lot of cyclists. There's probably more cyclist than cars.
Speaker 2: To be honest, if you're driving through there is either
Speaker 2: going to the dog park or commuting through from point
Speaker 2: A to point B. And the road has been narrowed
Speaker 2: over the years. It's a lot narrower than what it
Speaker 2: used to be. Has some roadside parking and little parking areas.
Speaker 2: It's a lot narrower than it was in the eighties
Speaker 2: and nineties when I was riding through there. We'll come
Speaker 2: back in just a moment. There's a plan there is
Speaker 2: a plan to put a traffic tunnel, a tunnel for
Speaker 2: cars under the City of Perth. I've never heard of
Speaker 2: this before, and it's to do with the refurbishment of
Speaker 2: the Caribean Precinct a tunnel, a traffic tunnel under the
Speaker 2: City of Perth. S day listening.
Speaker 11: Truck remains broken down in Bayswater the Tonkin Highway northbound
Speaker 11: prior to Guildford Road. The left emergency lane is blocked.
Speaker 11: Traffic management on site as well. Make sure you drive
Speaker 11: it carefully.
Speaker 2: In the area.
Speaker 11: Otherwise moving well on the Mitchell beakanan On northbound. Still
Speaker 11: a little slow Ankintail Road, Graham Farmer and the tunnel
Speaker 11: no major issues. I'm Robbie Verm pouts, Traffic leader six PR.
Speaker 2: Go speak to Professor Peter Newman in just a moment,
Speaker 2: Professor of Sustainability at Curtin UNI. There's a plan which
Speaker 2: seems to be backed by the City of Perth to
Speaker 2: build a traffic tunnel under the City of Perth and
Speaker 2: it's to do with the refurbishment of the Korellian and
Speaker 2: the company involved is five Eighths, which five eight I
Speaker 2: think is one of the affiliates associated with with Andrew Forrest.
Speaker 2: I think we'll get to that in just a moment.
Speaker 2: Darren says the footy oval on Burke Driver is called
Speaker 2: Troy Park. Thank you, Darren. Spot on mate correct a window.
Speaker 2: Andrew says, might be a silly question who's using the
Speaker 2: cycle path alongside Burke Drive because it sounds like us
Speaker 2: not using them. Well, Andrew, they're twisty, turney, weavy through
Speaker 2: the trees and they just can't go at that thirty
Speaker 2: k's now, which is the sort of the minimum speed
Speaker 2: that exercise cyclists like to go at. The cycle way
Speaker 2: that Katie Mayer was mentioning, Mate is not appropriate or
Speaker 2: not suitable for people moving at speed. Sorry, if you're
Speaker 2: having a jog, having a walk, or riding in your
Speaker 2: mountain riding your mountain bike, Masa, you know, I like you, Mate.
Speaker 2: I've had a few inocent incidents with the liker brigade
Speaker 2: and there's so bloody arrogant. It's not bloody well funny.
Speaker 2: I've got no time, and they should be on cycle paths,
Speaker 2: not on our bloody roads. Well, mas A lot of
Speaker 2: them are exercising, mate and road cyclist, tray athletes or
Speaker 2: whatever fitness guys and girls, and a lot of the
Speaker 2: cycle ways aren't aren't designed to have bikes on them
Speaker 2: at thirty k's now a lot of them. A lot
Speaker 2: of them aren't. Thanks Masa. Let's remain friends if we can.
Speaker 2: There's a the City of Perth a considering a traffic tunnel.
Speaker 2: I've never heard of this before, considering a traffic tunnel
Speaker 2: under the city. Professor Peter Newman from Kurtin UNI, Professor
Speaker 2: of Sustainability joins us. Now, Hi, Peter, how are you good.
Speaker 36: I'm fine. And it's a traffic tunnel just to get
Speaker 36: trucks in to help build the site. It's not going
Speaker 36: to be a long term traffic tunnel, so it's it's
Speaker 36: a bit different to what you quite thought. I have
Speaker 36: to have a quick look at it because it worried
Speaker 36: me that we're going to try and build a great
Speaker 36: big road under Perth, which would be a real waste
Speaker 36: of money. And think you felt that too.
Speaker 2: Well, they're not cheap, are these things. So this is
Speaker 2: under the Murray Street more connects the Forest Place Basement
Speaker 2: Reserve with the new basement area of the proposed Carellan development. So, Peter,
Speaker 2: you're hearing that it's just for construction traffic.
Speaker 36: Yes, it's construction only. And look, it's very a very
Speaker 36: important development. This Karellian City. I think it's it's a
Speaker 36: missing link. There's now a lot more pests in Perth
Speaker 36: than cars. It's for the first time for a hundred years,
Speaker 36: you can say that. So people are coming pouring in
Speaker 36: from the railway station and they go through that area
Speaker 36: and they hit the Karelian area. It's hard to get
Speaker 36: through there. It's not very attractive. And then they go
Speaker 36: through all the way to Saint George's Terrace and all
Speaker 36: those developments and for the Elizabeth Keay and all that.
Speaker 36: So the tourists, for example, there's nothing much there for them.
Speaker 36: High Street Mall's been running down, so it does need
Speaker 36: redevelopment and it does need access. So they've come up
Speaker 36: with a clever solution of going under it because there's
Speaker 36: a whole lot of space under there, but there's some
Speaker 36: that they'll have to dig out as well. My problem
Speaker 36: is that they'll have to have a pedestrian strategy to
Speaker 36: get around it, you know, because at the moment that's
Speaker 36: going to go through two of the most frequently used areas,
Speaker 36: the Forest Place and Murray Street more. But so you
Speaker 36: can't just sort of load it up with dirt and
Speaker 36: junk and say where we're trying to make your future better,
Speaker 36: You're going to have to have a place where all
Speaker 36: the pedestrians can easily go around, and so that'll take
Speaker 36: a bit of doing. So it is a challenge, but
Speaker 36: it's not quite a big freeway under.
Speaker 2: The city, all right, Okay, hey, thanks for thanks for
Speaker 2: correcting us on that one, Peter. Is there anywhere in
Speaker 2: your consideration in the city, in the metro area where
Speaker 2: a tunnel would be helpful? I know they're very expensive.
Speaker 2: You're often drilling and making tunnels in a sort of
Speaker 2: a water environment. You know, you're in mard, you're in clay,
Speaker 2: you're in water. Is there anywhere where we might need
Speaker 2: a tunnel to think?
Speaker 36: Probably?
Speaker 14: Not.
Speaker 36: The only thing we really needed was to get the through.
Speaker 36: That was a very big thing and that that caused
Speaker 36: a lot of controversy at the time, and a lot
Speaker 36: of tunnel experts said, oh, it'll never work. And of
Speaker 36: course it's been brilliant and that's that's a major part
Speaker 36: of Perth now, to be able to go through the
Speaker 36: city like that, and you know, it's hard to imagine
Speaker 36: the place without it, and that's an important thing to realize.
Speaker 36: So I don't think there's anything much more. I reckon,
Speaker 36: it's all about fixing the streets now so that we
Speaker 36: can have better access for pedestrians, because they're now the
Speaker 36: biggest numbers, and that's how you make money. That's how
Speaker 36: you attract housing in more housing, more tourists, more activity,
Speaker 36: because Perth is is needs needing more activity. It's losing
Speaker 36: out on that, so we need to make it a
Speaker 36: really attractive place for the future.
Speaker 2: Peter. The last time I spoke, I was talking to
Speaker 2: you about the trackless tramp that sat on the city
Speaker 2: of Sterling forecourt for a while, and you know us
Speaker 2: federal government money and I think you and I'm paraphrasing here, Peter,
Speaker 2: I apologize. I've got this room. You said, this is like,
Speaker 2: this is like the mobile phone. This is an absolute
Speaker 2: game change of this one. I don't reckon. We're going
Speaker 2: to get at Peter. And there may be some liberal
Speaker 2: labor politics in all of this.
Speaker 36: Yeah, and interesting one we talked about this this week.
Speaker 36: There's a study being done on central Perth by the
Speaker 36: Girl group from Denmark that has done two other studies
Speaker 36: before that led to Elizabeth Key and lots of other
Speaker 36: innovations in Perth, which we love now. So they're good
Speaker 36: people and they're very keen on a trackless tram coming
Speaker 36: through to the city from out Curtain Way and then
Speaker 36: up through to the north out to Sterling. Look, it's
Speaker 36: growing in acceptance, the lot of them, our processes. The
Speaker 36: local governments love it, the developers love it, the communities
Speaker 36: love it. There's a lot of issues with the bus
Speaker 36: industry that don't particularly want it because they think it's
Speaker 36: taking over from them. All of that has to be
Speaker 36: worked through, and I think it will be because it's
Speaker 36: it is like a mobile phone. You can't you can't
Speaker 36: go back to the old phone systems. This changed our lives.
Speaker 36: Everybody in the world now is this mobile phone and
Speaker 36: that will happen with these smart systems that are coming
Speaker 36: in with with public transport. They are so much better.
Speaker 36: They're not just like a diesel bus that's converted to
Speaker 36: run on electricity.
Speaker 2: It's not.
Speaker 4: It's a lot better than that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just a final one from me, a bit of
Speaker 2: chat around about improving the ferry systems on the river.
Speaker 2: We've tried them before and didn't have a great take up.
Speaker 2: You know, perhaps it's hard get to a ferry terminal.
Speaker 2: It's a little bit slow. People prefer to drive the
Speaker 2: car or use the train. Do you think there's a
Speaker 2: case to expand our ferry systems, Peter, Yeah.
Speaker 36: Look, it's a little bit. They could. They could definitely
Speaker 36: get better and they'll go up the river a bit
Speaker 36: more around to the area around the Opter Stadium and
Speaker 36: that sort of thing that they have special uses. But
Speaker 36: they're never a mass transit solution. They never are going
Speaker 36: to carry a lot of people because you can't get
Speaker 36: to them easily and it's Perth River winds a lot,
Speaker 36: so it takes a lot of time. No, we're not
Speaker 36: going to be able to compete with how quick to
Speaker 36: get from A to B, which is what transports mostly about.
Speaker 36: But our trains are now showing you can do it
Speaker 36: better than in a car on many of our routes.
Speaker 36: So if you didn't get from South Perth to Perth
Speaker 36: quicker than by going by car, and that would be
Speaker 36: during peak out for example, then you know it's got
Speaker 36: a future and there may be a few more sites
Speaker 36: like that. To UWA for example, was one, but I
Speaker 36: don't see it as a big solution.
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, yeah, I think when we tried it
Speaker 2: back in the day, the PTA trial to Peter, and
Speaker 2: they even offered up, you know, free coffee in a
Speaker 2: free newspaper on the trial and people still didn't use it.
Speaker 36: So yeah, you can't bribe people into changing in the
Speaker 36: transport and it's better. We've got to get something better
Speaker 36: and that includes bitting faster and cheaper and better, better
Speaker 36: ride all of that. People are not stupid that they're
Speaker 36: going to choose rather than getting all those incentives. So yeah,
Speaker 36: I look we're getting to grips with these I think
Speaker 36: the trackless trand for example, is a better option. It's
Speaker 36: going to be cheaper and better and faster. Yeah, and
Speaker 36: it's the kind of thing that will help our main
Speaker 36: roads get better.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Very interesting that you reckon the bus. The bus industry
Speaker 2: doesn't like it. Peter, always good to chat. Thank you
Speaker 2: for your time today. Okay, see see professor Peter Newman
Speaker 2: from Curtain University formerly known as the WA Institute of Technology.
Speaker 2: When I went there in the eighties for one year
Speaker 2: in engineering before the MAT's got too hard one double
Speaker 2: three eight A handy two? What do you reckon? We
Speaker 2: need a tunnel and would you Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 2: know we've talked about a fair bit on the station
Speaker 2: about the expansion of the ferry system. They're just slow,
Speaker 2: aren't they. And our it's not like we're not like
Speaker 2: Sydney Harbor where you can catch the Mouni ferry to
Speaker 2: work or you know the ferry around those water taxis
Speaker 2: that get you around around Sydney. It's just a different
Speaker 2: river system, isn't it. Our big estory one double three
Speaker 2: a D two. David Honey, then member for codder Slow.
Speaker 2: Back in the day he spoke to Oliver Peterson, host
Speaker 2: of Perth Live about building a tunnel through through to
Speaker 2: Uwa and through the Netherlands. Have a listen.
Speaker 26: How good would a tunnel understealing highway be?
Speaker 8: Look, I think it'll be fantastic. You know places you
Speaker 8: go to Sydney and I was really surprised the last
Speaker 8: time I went there just how easy it is for
Speaker 8: such a massive city to get out of there. And
Speaker 8: they really cleverly used tunnel in major congestion points. So
Speaker 8: north of the river you go to see Diego in Chile,
Speaker 8: they've got a major freeway system that runs in length
Speaker 8: of that system a city. It's extremely constrained geographically all
Speaker 8: in the valley and that works brilliantly and I just
Speaker 8: think this is a great solution that is much lower
Speaker 8: cost than people think.
Speaker 2: David Honey speaking to our man Ollie Peterson back in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three one double three eight e two. This
Speaker 2: one here from Norm Gida. Norm, how a mate? What
Speaker 2: we do need is a roadbridge to join Wellington on
Speaker 2: Moslim part two point Waldron Biicton over Blackwall Reach says Norm.
Speaker 2: That's a bridge roadge chees mate. This one here from
Speaker 2: one of our listeners. I've got a long one about
Speaker 2: Burke Drive and I think it's from I can't quite
Speaker 2: big the name because it's how do I look at that? Max?
Speaker 2: Help me out? Thanks, mate, Well, we'll try. And I'm
Speaker 2: a resident on Burke Drive. Tom from Adada. I'm a
Speaker 2: resident on Burke Drive and I feel the first thing
Speaker 2: I'll say is that I feel the cycles of their
Speaker 2: own worst enemy. For the record, A big fan of
Speaker 2: the cycles they provide atmosphere, but when they're traveling four
Speaker 2: or five wide, there are sure to be potential issues.
Speaker 2: I say the biggest issues the resident have is the
Speaker 2: noise they create early hours of the morning, and they
Speaker 2: are noisy. Tom, I've lived on the road because as
Speaker 2: they talk as a riding past, even having a chat,
Speaker 2: they're shouting right, and they created early hours of the morning.
Speaker 2: I'm a fan of the guys and girls with ride Brass.
Speaker 2: They need to conform to what is the general consens
Speaker 2: of relation to the noise in the mornings, almost like
Speaker 2: a building site. They need to keep the noise down
Speaker 2: before seven am. Thanks Tom, and thank you for your
Speaker 2: comprehensive thought thoughts on people who are riding down Burt Drove.
Speaker 2: They do speak really, really loud. Yeah, you're yelling at
Speaker 2: each other in the pack because they've got you know,
Speaker 2: wind wind in their ears, so they're shouting at each other.
Speaker 2: Seventeen and a half minutes to midday. Where do we
Speaker 2: need a tunnel? Get I Terry?
Speaker 37: Okay, Simon Simon. Firstly, mate, I hope you've dusted up
Speaker 37: to Beanie because the cold weather's coming in.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I will try old Bob dust off by Sapporo.
Speaker 13: Beating Terry Okay, thank you mate.
Speaker 37: There's a couple of ways you can do a tunnel.
Speaker 37: You could do it from the under the Hay Street
Speaker 37: overpass heading onto the Nanows one there to stop that
Speaker 37: blockage of all the traffic coming from the city and
Speaker 37: Freeway north. And you can also structure a tunnel under
Speaker 37: the causeway from Riverside Drive which brings you up at
Speaker 37: the back of Canning Highway towards the Birds over Pass.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, not a bad idea. Hey, Terry. Have you
Speaker 2: have you been across the new bridge, the new Harrison
Speaker 2: Island Bridge.
Speaker 37: No, I haven't made no, no, not as yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't give it a go mate. It's pretty good.
Speaker 2: It's like three lanes wide and yeah it's good, a
Speaker 2: bit of nice view.
Speaker 37: I might take a cycle class there, but I'll get
Speaker 37: abused by all the pedestrians.
Speaker 2: You won't, mate, We cyclists of people too, Terry, You'll
Speaker 2: be right, thanks mate, Thanks you call Terry the Yeah,
Speaker 2: the new bridge is good, isn't it? Have you I've
Speaker 2: riden my bike over there, had to walk over. It's good.
Speaker 2: It's got a bit of a hill in it. I've
Speaker 2: got a little bit bit weavy, little bit of a
Speaker 2: view like a new bridge, the Heriston Island Bridge one
Speaker 2: level three eighty two, a bridge over Lake June Lup
Speaker 2: to connect jon Lup and Wanneroo. These ideas that and
Speaker 2: Barclays idea thanks am, I'll put that in the mix.
Speaker 2: You may have read some stories on you would have
Speaker 2: heard this as a rumor on the rumor file, and
Speaker 2: you may have read some stories on Perth Now South
Speaker 2: Cooogie Junior Footy Club, which is Glen Jackevitch's old footy
Speaker 2: club have got two ovals. One of them is lit
Speaker 2: at night, has got flood lights. The other one isn't
Speaker 2: and it's a little bit dangerous for the kids who've
Speaker 2: been training on it, the footy kids who have been
Speaker 2: training on it. And it's a matter of Western Power
Speaker 2: have the job ready to go. The funds are there,
Speaker 2: Western Power haven't got around to putting up the connecting
Speaker 2: the flood lights. Just as yet. It was in our
Speaker 2: rumor file on Monday. We'll bring you up to date
Speaker 2: with that. It's called it at twelve now. Andrew Andrew says, Hi,
Speaker 2: Simon god Andrew. Hello, mate, So a group of teenagers
Speaker 2: on bikes or Eastwood as we treat like criminals, but
Speaker 2: a group of men riding bikes we meant to treat
Speaker 2: them like royalty. Something has gone wrong. Who's saying we
Speaker 2: need to tream like royalty? Mate? They're just people doing
Speaker 2: exercise and that's thing. That's the thing. They're doing exercises,
Speaker 2: and it's exercise. Andrew a group of teenagers on bikes,
Speaker 2: two hundred of them riding out from Charles Riley Reserve,
Speaker 2: mate and doing fifty sixty k's an hour. That we
Speaker 2: do need the police to crack down on them. Steve
Speaker 2: says Simon. I'm with Anne. A bridge from June Lot
Speaker 2: to Wanneroo Road, Say Steve, how long is that? It's
Speaker 2: all twenty It'll be like it would be long, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it would be long. A tunnel under Oroon Road from
Speaker 2: Graham Farmer Freeway to Leach Highways is Jacob cheers, Jacob,
Speaker 2: thank you, mate. Zeno reckons the Harrison Island bridges is
Speaker 2: rusty already. And if you're listening the program yesterday, as
Speaker 2: Anne is thirty one weeks pregnant this Friday and we
Speaker 2: were trying to find a name for her Bubba. I'm
Speaker 2: obviously advocating for a little baby simone, which which strangely
Speaker 2: is getting traction with Anne herself, and we were discussing
Speaker 2: the idea of maybe naming the baby after a horse
Speaker 2: that's won the Melbourne Cup. And Brendan says, a new
Speaker 2: bridge for Anne to little Drimus in a pram that's
Speaker 2: funny and was on the radio earlier. May have heard her.
Speaker 2: She was on the radio and I heard her thank you,
Speaker 2: Jakie boy, thank you and a couple of texts about
Speaker 2: tunnel which we've just read out. This was a rumor
Speaker 2: file earlier in the week on Monday, I think it was.
Speaker 2: The rumor was from after the siren and it's about
Speaker 2: South Cooogie Junior Footy Club.
Speaker 38: Rumour has it whilst the South Koogee Junior Footy Club
Speaker 38: are waiting for Western Power to turn on new floodlights
Speaker 38: at Santich Park, kids are getting hurt from training in
Speaker 38: the dark. Apparently Western Power needs to upgrade the distribution board,
Speaker 38: which mon't be done until the end of June. Why
Speaker 38: so long despite parents trying to use their car lights
Speaker 38: to light up the ground. Apparently a child broke his
Speaker 38: finger last week trying to mark the ball in the dark.
Speaker 2: Then Andrews is the VP, the vice president of the
Speaker 2: South Cougie Junior Football Club, which includes, amongst alumni, the
Speaker 2: Jackowitch brothers. Good A, Glenn Good Yeah, very well. So
Speaker 2: do we have any updates from I know that person
Speaker 2: now run a story as well. Do we have any
Speaker 2: updates from the rumor? Fig Win.
Speaker 30: Not really. Well, let's just say West and I still
Speaker 30: haven't concert us direct, as they may have said on
Speaker 30: a Facebook post. Just a couple of things on our perth.
Speaker 34: Now.
Speaker 30: We never said parents are holding their mobile phones out
Speaker 30: with torches, because that's as good as holding the kindles
Speaker 30: out there. To be honest, Yeah they are. They are
Speaker 30: using their car lights. I set up my year as well.
Speaker 30: This body is on there to help us train. We
Speaker 30: don't expect kids to train in the dark, but they
Speaker 30: want to train, they want to learn, they want to
Speaker 30: they want to get better skills. So we're on game day,
Speaker 30: you know, we can go out there and hopefully win
Speaker 30: a game. That's what it's all about, you know, it's
Speaker 30: about the kids having fun. Oh of course we've got
Speaker 30: twenty one teams. So we're told last year started this year.
Speaker 30: The lights been up since off February. March got told
Speaker 30: we're going to be connected by April. We're like, great,
Speaker 30: we can allow more kids to register because we don't
Speaker 30: want no footy club once not that kids from being
Speaker 30: able to play football.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's what it's all about.
Speaker 30: So we were able to accommodate, and when well we're
Speaker 30: going to have two obles with lights, we'll be able
Speaker 30: to accommodate. So currently we've got one oval, which no
Speaker 30: one trains on a Friday for obvious reasons, when we
Speaker 30: all mainly all play on Saturday. So we've got twenty
Speaker 30: one teams trying to train four nights a week.
Speaker 2: On one oval on one oble. Yeah all right, mate,
Speaker 2: what a Western power saying? I understand all of that.
Speaker 2: And there it must be frustrating to see them just
Speaker 2: sitting there and you can't turn them on.
Speaker 30: Well, the ironic thing is now they won't turn on
Speaker 30: anyway because due to the installation and they're not working,
Speaker 30: the lovely white cockies have now gone to strip the
Speaker 30: cable off most of them.
Speaker 2: Oh no, damn those white cookies. Yeah that's no good.
Speaker 30: Yeahs they make across across the city.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so that we do have, yeah, that no standing, mate,
Speaker 2: And that that can be fixed, I guess, can we
Speaker 2: fixed hopefully reasonably quickly? What are Western powers to you?
Speaker 2: Can you you're going to get the lights on before
Speaker 2: the season finishes.
Speaker 30: Well, here's here's hoping, Like I said, they haven't actually
Speaker 30: reached out to us directly. Obviously I have seen we're
Speaker 30: looking at the end of the City of Coburn to
Speaker 30: come back to us and said they're looking at the
Speaker 30: end of June. So we've only got you know, probably
Speaker 30: by the end of June, there's only five six weeks left. Yeah,
Speaker 30: actually not even that, probably about four weeks left. Yeah,
Speaker 30: the season two thirds over by.
Speaker 2: That stage, so yeah, damn yeah, sorry, you can go ahead,
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 30: So we've got we've got nine I was kicked teams
Speaker 30: this year as well, and obviously, you know, kids want
Speaker 30: to play under lights and all the fun. But we
Speaker 30: on a Sunday, both lables are full of oz Kick kids.
Speaker 30: So we're the logistics of trying to have Friday nights
Speaker 30: for oz Kick, you know, one year this week, one
Speaker 30: year that it's it's it's not feasible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, the grass in the your cobae, the grass.
Speaker 30: You can use. We've contact with the council. Obviously Tuba
Speaker 30: Up got their lights on, but obviously that's been used
Speaker 30: for them. There is one one or two lights out
Speaker 30: of the Angel Up ground where we're currently trying to
Speaker 30: speak with the council to see if we can use that.
Speaker 30: But the problem that is is only one goal process,
Speaker 30: so that doesn't help either.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be frustrating. You know, you've been you've
Speaker 2: been given an assurance year the lights will be on
Speaker 2: at the start of the season, you know, obviously than
Speaker 2: the night are getting longer now, so you do need
Speaker 2: the lights and you've got a problem with some of
Speaker 2: the kids can't.
Speaker 30: Yeah. We've explained to all the coaches that if it's
Speaker 30: not safe, don't do it. The kids are going to
Speaker 30: get hurt. It's football. They're going to get pumps and bruises,
Speaker 30: they're going to get.
Speaker 39: Knox and all the rest of it.
Speaker 30: We get that, but to try and train with what
Speaker 30: lightning we've got, it's not the best, but you know,
Speaker 30: the club does what it can to make it work.
Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, yeah, Well, I mean if anyone's from West
Speaker 2: and Western Power, we'll get these transcripts made through their
Speaker 2: media monitors, you know, and they yeah, get onto Western
Speaker 2: Power if you can, if you can hear us, because
Speaker 2: that's that's that's what the plan wasn't and that was
Speaker 2: what was promised. Glenn Goodwill, Yeah, good to talk to
Speaker 2: you mate. Yeah, all the best if thank you Glenn
Speaker 2: Andrews from South Cousey Junior Football Club and as I said,
Speaker 2: that's so, we're with Glenn and Allen Jakovich grew up
Speaker 2: plying their traders as kids, quite a prominent junior footy club.
Speaker 2: They're just off just off Stock Road at Sandwich Park.
Speaker 2: That was on the rum A file, so you know
Speaker 2: Sillem had the lights turned on one double three eighty two.
Speaker 2: There's a couple of stories, just a couple of quick
Speaker 2: up days. Looks like Sean Darcy will play for FRIO
Speaker 2: this weekend. I think they're playing on Saturday against the
Speaker 2: Gold Coast Sons. So Shawn Darcy's on the plane, which
Speaker 2: is good. And Mag Sizbanski has revealed that she has
Speaker 2: a form of blood cancer, which is a great shame.
Speaker 2: Mag that can be outspoken but of course incredibly funny
Speaker 2: dude through the over the journey. But she's crook, which
Speaker 2: is no good. We'll come back three and a half
Speaker 2: to mid day. I think I'm about to have a
Speaker 2: slight disagreement with a fellow Quanana residents or former Quanana resident,
Speaker 2: Troy four one nine O Troy, I drive a truck
Speaker 2: around the Metro all day, every day. The amount of
Speaker 2: so called exercises on bikes with no reflectors on their
Speaker 2: pedals or their rims is illegal. No one of they're
Speaker 2: getting hit at night, Troy, the ones we're getting hit
Speaker 2: at night with the east scooters and MATEO, I don't
Speaker 2: have reflectors on my pedals or my my rims of
Speaker 2: my pushy. Didn't know you needed to be on a
Speaker 2: race bike, mate, Thanks Troy, Sorry to disagree, fellow for
Speaker 2: one niner midday mel Crittle.
Speaker 1: Next until one. This is Perth Today with Simon Beaumont
Speaker 1: on Perth six. Pr Owen from East Frio.
Speaker 2: Goodah, thanks for making contact mate, he said, Hello Simon,
Speaker 2: and talk about cyclists here. Riverside Road, East Frio, Preston
Speaker 2: Point Road, Bicton Conning Highway to Burk Drive Saturday Sunday
Speaker 2: morning to the same issues as Burke Drive. One lane
Speaker 2: road completely dropped, blocked off by bikes and no stopping
Speaker 2: for a roundabout stop signs, vehicles doing speed limits. They
Speaker 2: sound like a gaggle of geese. Lords of the road,
Speaker 2: says Ohen so Owen is spotting that south of the
Speaker 2: river and that unfortunately, as I said, some cyclists do
Speaker 2: behave badly sometimes in these big pelotons. Thanks for listening in.
Speaker 2: It is good on you Owen. Thanks, good to hear
Speaker 2: from you. Mate. It is eight minutes past midday. Doctor
Speaker 2: Bell Critle joins us. Now high Mel, good to see you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: good going well, Yes, thank you and you yeah going
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Speaker 2: We had Scott from Cherish in a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 26: Yeah, that was good. It was listening to him.
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Speaker 2: big changes mell this week in the pet industry.
Speaker 26: Hate those laws have come into play for the pet shops. Yeah,
Speaker 26: so I was reading, Yeah, on the twenty six, I
Speaker 26: think it was that it doesn't look like the two
Speaker 26: or three pet shops in wa went ahead and renewed
Speaker 26: the licensing to source pets from to sell from refuges.
Speaker 26: So I think I know the Clermont store near us is.
Speaker 26: I believe he is no longer open. So yeah, so
Speaker 26: I guess it just I mean, I can see why
Speaker 26: they're doing it, you know, to reduce unwanted yeah, dogs
Speaker 26: and cats, but in this instance primarily the dogs and
Speaker 26: sort of just trying to cut down on puppy farming
Speaker 26: and backyard breeders and that sort of thing. Yeah, we
Speaker 26: do see a lot of the refuges are full, so
Speaker 26: it's yeah a situation.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 2: We spoke to the Shenton Park guys earlier this week
Speaker 2: and they are replete with dogs at the moment. I
Speaker 2: think they've got about seventy on their books that they'd
Speaker 2: be keen to kind a home for Yes, if you
Speaker 2: like to speak to Melie can one double three, one
Speaker 2: double three, eight to eighty two if you like to
Speaker 2: give us a call. Melog I don't know if this
Speaker 2: is going to be proven or proven out, but it
Speaker 2: just feels like this mainly to the expensive dogs becoming
Speaker 2: more expensive.
Speaker 26: I wonder, I mean the same, Yeah, I guess. You know,
Speaker 26: it was interesting during COVID in those times when we
Speaker 26: were all in lockdown and felt like everyone went out
Speaker 26: and got a dog, and I guess it was the
Speaker 26: only time that I can recall in a long time that, Yeah,
Speaker 26: the refuge numbers were low, and the price of puppies
Speaker 26: from pet shops and breeders and that thing and that
Speaker 26: sort of thing, it was very, very high. It's come
Speaker 26: down a little bit, but you do wonder, yeah, whether
Speaker 26: there's going to be a bit of an adjustment there
Speaker 26: because I guess that that sort of Yeah, the ease
Speaker 26: of getting a puppy from a pet shop is no
Speaker 26: longer yeap. But as I said, yeah, whether you know,
Speaker 26: I suppose then you're sourcing from over East, is there's
Speaker 26: risks with that and what you might purchase. So again, yeah,
Speaker 26: just going back to the adoption, not just the dog
Speaker 26: refuge home. There's plenty of other rescue centers that have
Speaker 26: dogs that they're trying to find foster homes for or
Speaker 26: actual permanent homes. So yeah, it'd be nice to see
Speaker 26: some of those numbers reduced.
Speaker 2: We spoke to the RSPCA. They did a bust on
Speaker 2: a house recently. One hundred and seventeen dogs. Oh my goodness,
Speaker 2: and one garden inside and outside. That's a lot in it.
Speaker 26: That's a lot. We hear of stories of cats of
Speaker 26: that number. I'll tell you about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dogs, a lot of yu Canuba.
Speaker 26: That's a lot, a lot of energy as well.
Speaker 2: Adam Gilkish would say, I've on phone in you can
Speaker 2: one double three eight eighty two. Any behavioral staff for
Speaker 2: stuff to do with your dogs cats? Can I ask
Speaker 2: you goldfish question? Mel I every now and then you
Speaker 2: get them. I've got one goldfish, yes, probably fifteen centimeters long,
Speaker 2: probably three or four years old. Wow, is he going
Speaker 2: to live for much longer? How long do they live for?
Speaker 26: Ah, now you've got me on the spot. I think
Speaker 26: they can live. I mean some of them will live
Speaker 26: for years. Some of the bigger fish, you know, will
Speaker 26: live decades, so you're obviously taking really good care of.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's by accident used to have a
Speaker 2: lot more fish in the tank. So it's ninety the tanks.
Speaker 2: It's a big tank, right, Yeah. Can I introduce little
Speaker 2: fish into that? Do you think was it too big
Speaker 2: on its own?
Speaker 14: Well?
Speaker 26: I probably don't need to. Yeah, that is what I'd
Speaker 26: be worried about. Yeah, because I have had that happen myself,
Speaker 26: as you sort of introduce smaller fish and than they
Speaker 26: are and they disappear. Yeah, they're no longer really there
Speaker 26: for very long, so that would be my only Yeah,
Speaker 26: sort of thought on that.
Speaker 2: You've done very well, thank you.
Speaker 26: But I suppose if I give you a number, then
Speaker 26: this fish will outlive that, so we sort of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, would you like me to say anything you like,
Speaker 2: because I trust you don't betray that trust Man Martin's
Speaker 2: phone in Goo Martin.
Speaker 20: Him mel Simon. I'm actually asking for a friend. They've
Speaker 20: got a to cross.
Speaker 8: Mold.
Speaker 20: Teese's about thirteen years old, very quiet, reserved little guy,
Speaker 20: and in the last couple of weeks he started growling
Speaker 20: and backing away from his food bowl. Yes, he seems
Speaker 20: to be afraid of it, and she's changed the bowl,
Speaker 20: she's put the bowl in a more lighted area. But yeah,
Speaker 20: he's still doing this. So she's reverted to feeding in
Speaker 20: my hand out of the bowl.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 20: Yeah, but yeah, and I'll said to them, you know,
Speaker 20: I'll give you guys a ring and find it if
Speaker 20: you can maybe explain that.
Speaker 26: Yeah, Look, it's a tricky one, Martin. I guess what
Speaker 26: we do know that you know, whether something has happened,
Speaker 26: whether there was a sound or a movement or a
Speaker 26: taste or whatever, and something has you know, caused the
Speaker 26: dog to have an aversion to that particular type of bowl.
Speaker 26: And I guess you've sort of touched on my first suggestion,
Speaker 26: which sometimes it can actually be the type of bowl
Speaker 26: for whatever reason, the dog just decides that that bowl
Speaker 26: is no longer suitable. You know, if it was a
Speaker 26: stainless steel bowl, then sometimes trialing you know, ceramic bowls
Speaker 26: or glass bowls or plastic bowls, you know, can can
Speaker 26: assist you've done the right thing. In an older dog
Speaker 26: as well, where their vision may not be as good
Speaker 26: as it is. You know, he the dog may sort
Speaker 26: of be seeing something else associated with the bowl or
Speaker 26: in an area the bowls in an area that he
Speaker 26: feels uncomfortable with. So sometimes in his instance, and it
Speaker 26: sounds like your friend is already kind of doing that,
Speaker 26: I suppose I wouldn't be suggesting, you know, sitting there
Speaker 26: hand feeding the dog all the time. But some dogs
Speaker 26: just will not go back to a bowl, and we
Speaker 26: actually do need to feed them on the floor on
Speaker 26: a different surface, So even like a flat plate something
Speaker 26: like that, and in a different area you could try
Speaker 26: does he still eat the food that's being offered, Martin,
Speaker 26: do you know.
Speaker 20: Yes, he's happy with the food. Yeah, the food nothing changed, Yes,
Speaker 20: nothing changed all of a sudden.
Speaker 26: Yeah.
Speaker 20: The sight thing could be because he's he's getting.
Speaker 26: On absolutely and yeah, that's right. And at thirteen there's
Speaker 26: can be changes.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 26: Sometimes cataracts will start to play a player role. Sometimes
Speaker 26: the back of the eye will start to we call
Speaker 26: atrophy and their vision and certainly vision you know, in
Speaker 26: dim lighting can be reduced and he might know his
Speaker 26: food there, he just can't quite sort of see it
Speaker 26: all that well. So a wealthy area and maybe just
Speaker 26: playing around with plates and different sort of surfaces to
Speaker 26: feed him on would be where I would be heading, Martin.
Speaker 20: All right, thank you very much, good.
Speaker 2: Luck, cheers mate, it's nice, yes, fining for a friend,
Speaker 2: ring doctor doctor Kriddle on it. That's good today, Scott.
Speaker 13: Yeah, guys got maybe the dog's growling because it doesn't
Speaker 13: have cherish in it. But but well, my wife on
Speaker 13: the radio a couple of weeks ago and went out
Speaker 13: and brought a puppy on Monday.
Speaker 2: Because.
Speaker 13: Cool she did.
Speaker 26: What did she get?
Speaker 13: But Cody? We got a little kavood all ships crash. Yes,
Speaker 13: she's very gorgeous. But our Tibetan spaniel, Cody's are taking
Speaker 13: a little while we warm up. So I was just
Speaker 13: after some chips and maybe how long it takes for
Speaker 13: him to get over another dog in the house.
Speaker 26: Yeah, Scott can sometimes take a while. And what we
Speaker 26: have come to know is it really depends on they
Speaker 26: talk about social character, so it really depends on what
Speaker 26: sort of dog Cody is and what sort of dog
Speaker 26: this new puppy is. So probably worth you know, just
Speaker 26: getting some video of both of them and how they
Speaker 26: behave and I can send it to the trainers and
Speaker 26: get some advice for you. But what we do know
Speaker 26: is that you know, there's dogs that are protective in
Speaker 26: the home, there's the decision maker ones as the ones
Speaker 26: that are just pro social and don't really care about much.
Speaker 26: They just sort of make up the numbers. So just
Speaker 26: knowing what sort of personality both of them are will
Speaker 26: then help you in getting them used to each other.
Speaker 26: But the short answer is it will take time and
Speaker 26: just making sure they've both got their own sort of areas,
Speaker 26: sleeping areas, you know, feeding areas, and that Cody's not
Speaker 26: feeling threatened by the new addition. I did it. I
Speaker 26: think you've heard me talk about the two dogs. Did
Speaker 26: it a few couple of years ago. Now, my old boy, Yeah,
Speaker 26: he probably took a good couple of months to really
Speaker 26: come out of his shell and be accepting of the
Speaker 26: new one. They don't sit there and snuggle up on
Speaker 26: the couch together, but they live quite happily and we'll
Speaker 26: sort of have moments of play and stuff. So if
Speaker 26: you want to send me through some videos, I can
Speaker 26: and can probably give you more specific advice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he send him to appreciate it. Yeah, and theyve Scott.
Speaker 2: What's the new one called.
Speaker 7: Mango?
Speaker 2: Mango? Mango mango as in the fruit that's pretty good?
Speaker 2: Is it orange?
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's light Brown.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well Scott, thanks mate, Thanks Scott, Thanks Martin.
Speaker 2: David has sent us a text. We'll come to that
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Speaker 2: Mel Critles with us today. If you likes his phone, Mel,
Speaker 2: you can twenty one minutes past midday, Gillian, We'll get
Speaker 2: to you in just a second. David's texted a smell.
Speaker 2: He's got two goldfish are now six years old. The
Speaker 2: one became fish oil under the lemon tree. Six years old.
Speaker 2: We've got them. Didn't imagine this long, and David, it
Speaker 2: can be longer.
Speaker 26: Yes, I was just having a look. What was The
Speaker 26: average age was ten to fifteen years. The longest one
Speaker 26: on record is forty three years, so you could try
Speaker 26: and break that, Simon.
Speaker 2: I amazed to live this long. Yeah, you know, it's
Speaker 2: just sort of it's just there. And when I clean
Speaker 2: the tank once a month, I take it down and
Speaker 2: put it in a really small little jar, and it
Speaker 2: doesn't look happy, and then it goes back in and
Speaker 2: there's no trauma, no shock.
Speaker 26: You've got it all, damn pat.
Speaker 2: And yeah, when you haven't fed it for a while,
Speaker 2: it follows you around the around the room.
Speaker 26: And they're quite cool as Yeah. I had fish for
Speaker 26: a while and that was little. I don't know, there's
Speaker 26: little personalities and yeah, what they behaviors is quite fascinating.
Speaker 4: You see.
Speaker 2: I like freshwater goldfish. Hey Gillian, and thanks for calling.
Speaker 2: And how are you?
Speaker 16: Oh?
Speaker 28: Good morning? Perhaps you all afternoon? Now beautiful rame, we're
Speaker 28: having its fantastic.
Speaker 27: Now.
Speaker 28: I have two lots of questions I've got I've got
Speaker 28: two cockertools, both males, so they're in separate pages. Where
Speaker 28: can I get their wings cut? I used to get
Speaker 28: them cut by friends, but they don't do them now
Speaker 28: stop them one flying all around the house.
Speaker 26: Yeah, you've got to watch out for those ceiling fans
Speaker 26: and whatnot. Jillian. Oh, well, I could do a shame
Speaker 26: plug as well. And so you could bring them to
Speaker 26: Swanborne Vet and we will will trim them for you.
Speaker 26: But any any local veteriny clinic, Jillian will be able
Speaker 26: to do a wing clip for you. I understand some
Speaker 26: of the there was a bed center I think in Balcata,
Speaker 26: and I needn't know that they used to do wing
Speaker 26: clipping and what not to. But I suppose from my
Speaker 26: point of your Jillian, I'm only really familiar with Yeah,
Speaker 26: us vets, vets doing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you live in Woodville?
Speaker 28: Yeah, yes, I live in Woodville, So I need somewhere
Speaker 28: up this way. I used to take them to Hillis,
Speaker 28: but the lady went to Bewcata. She used to do
Speaker 28: their wings their nails free.
Speaker 2: Yeah, might be too might be too far for you.
Speaker 2: But there's a bird place in the Swan Valley. I
Speaker 2: think it's called.
Speaker 28: That's a long way for me to know.
Speaker 26: Yeah, okay, I would honestly and look at some local
Speaker 26: Yeah whatever the closest a couple of vets are to you.
Speaker 28: Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. Can I ask
Speaker 28: him some other questions about my daughter? My daughter's got
Speaker 28: five rescue cats, had them on and off for about
Speaker 28: ten years. One was a feral cat on our baby.
Speaker 28: The feral mom she's gone deaf denile. She's never been
Speaker 28: out since my daughter had They've got a big cat pen,
Speaker 28: great big cat pen for them all to go in.
Speaker 28: But this this sni one she's got dementia. I think
Speaker 28: she wants to go outside in there and just lays
Speaker 28: in the grass all day long or under the bushes.
Speaker 28: She doesn't go to get out of the house or
Speaker 28: out of the garden anywhere. Yes, but why did they
Speaker 28: do that? So she's going back to her where she
Speaker 28: used to live out in the bush.
Speaker 26: Yeah, I mean, you know, as they get older, and
Speaker 26: certainly if that cognitive function isn't as good as they
Speaker 26: used to, you know, we often find that they will,
Speaker 26: you know, sleep twenty two hours a day and really
Speaker 26: only get up to eat and go to the toilet,
Speaker 26: and then they're back to sleep again. And I found
Speaker 26: with my boy as he got older, he really he
Speaker 26: had his spots that he would love and he'd sort
Speaker 26: of just shift around through them. You know, someoneould be
Speaker 26: in the sun and he'd you know, he'd find a
Speaker 26: grassy area to sort of snuggle up in. And I
Speaker 26: guess they as again, as their cognitive function reduces, they
Speaker 26: really sort of just become set in a routine and
Speaker 26: it's a bit of a pattern. So as long as
Speaker 26: she's still eating and drinking and toileting, all right, Jillian
Speaker 26: and I wouldn't be too worried about that.
Speaker 28: You know, in terms of quality of life, my daughter
Speaker 28: had Skip giving her these tablets to the core eat.
Speaker 28: Then she wanders all around the house at night. But
Speaker 28: she was a fairer part. She's about sixteen or seventeen
Speaker 28: the vet. But now she sleeps in that bed with
Speaker 28: the bed with them more than the other plants.
Speaker 26: Yeah, it's funny how their behavior changes as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, thanks Jillian, thanks for your cool good
Speaker 2: luck with getting cockertils wings trimmed. There is did you
Speaker 2: say there was a wood a veting woodwell and tops
Speaker 2: there's a doctor Todd at Woodvale does birds. We think, Jillian,
Speaker 2: so doctor Todd at Woodvale. Thank you. This one here
Speaker 2: from Michael Gooday, Simon and mel what's your opinion mail
Speaker 2: on Foresight, which is the numeral for and then cyte supplements.
Speaker 2: I think you and I've talked about this before. Yes,
Speaker 2: a dog in its left leg vectors to try these supplements.
Speaker 2: We couldn't afford the expensive surgery.
Speaker 26: Yes, I really like Foresight, so it's one of the
Speaker 26: ones that we do. There's lots of product joint supplement
Speaker 26: products out there on the market, but Foresight is one
Speaker 26: we do keep in the clinic at Swanbourne. It's got
Speaker 26: a marine plant extract in it called Epitalis, and I
Speaker 26: guess I like it because there are actually studies behind
Speaker 26: it to show that it does help with cartilage regeneration
Speaker 26: and that sort of thing too. So it comes in
Speaker 26: there's granules for sort of chronic arthritis management and then
Speaker 26: there's a gel formation of formulation. Sorry that is for
Speaker 26: sort of acute injuries. So quite often we will have
Speaker 26: patients on one or other of them for whatever sort
Speaker 26: of condition were trying. But yeah, I really like the foresight,
Speaker 26: so highly recommended.
Speaker 2: You have to get it through your ved.
Speaker 26: Yeah, it is over the counter, so it's one. Yeah
Speaker 26: that's over the counter. But yeah, we stuck it at
Speaker 26: the clinics.
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, thanks Michael, well answered Melworld done. One
Speaker 2: of our listeners reckons, I don't know if this has
Speaker 2: got a name on it. We had a goldfish born
Speaker 2: in their pond that lived for twelve years. Thank you
Speaker 2: to that correspondent. A bit of gastro around for domin.
Speaker 26: You have seen a lot of gastro and in chatting
Speaker 26: with one of the emergency centers earlier this week as well,
Speaker 26: because we were so busy I couldn't accept anymore. They've
Speaker 26: had the same thing, so it's interesting. It's sort of
Speaker 26: and I was chatting to Sean when I arrived. You know,
Speaker 26: parvovirus this time of year is just something to be
Speaker 26: aware of. It's a virus that is highly resistant in
Speaker 26: the environment. So with this rain coming it will stay
Speaker 26: in the environment for attating in soiled milk. Yeah, so
Speaker 26: it's possibly been covered by the soil and then the
Speaker 26: rains will wash it away and expose it. So just
Speaker 26: a remind to everyone to make sure that your dog
Speaker 26: is up to date with its paravo virus vaccination. But
Speaker 26: I guess at Swanborne we haven't so much seen pavo.
Speaker 26: It's just gas stros vomiting, diarrhea, but a lot of
Speaker 26: them have been unwell enough to warrant, yeah, needing to
Speaker 26: be in hospital on drips and just the additional supportive care.
Speaker 26: So something is we're seeing a bit of a run
Speaker 26: of that at the clinic at the moment.
Speaker 2: Puppy's getting oculated against paro, don't they atute.
Speaker 26: Lately, So we do a most vets do a three
Speaker 26: vaccination protocol to really kick start that immunity and then
Speaker 26: it's they have an adult booster of it, and then
Speaker 26: it's most vaccines, it's every three years to continue with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it's in soil mill. What is it
Speaker 2: a Is it a little bug? Is it like as
Speaker 2: a virus?
Speaker 26: So viral particles? Yeah, so the virus is shed. So
Speaker 26: you know, the dog with PAVO that went to the
Speaker 26: park had a bit of diarrhea, shed the viral particles
Speaker 26: in that stool, and then that just sits there in
Speaker 26: the environment. Yeah, resistant before it sort of eventually breaks down.
Speaker 26: But it doesn't have to be living in a host
Speaker 26: to sit there. So this is where the next you know,
Speaker 26: innocent dog comes along, has a bit of a sniff
Speaker 26: where a dog might have passed a year ago, and
Speaker 26: and potentially you know ingests these these viral particles and then.
Speaker 2: To pass on through fecal matter.
Speaker 26: Yeah, so fecal oral doesn't that sound delicious?
Speaker 2: Dust? Sure? I'm looking forward to. Yes, today's Continental roles.
Speaker 2: Our winner today of the bag of cherish is not
Speaker 2: Scott who's the who's the new owner of Mango and
Speaker 2: the old owner of Cody because got works of cherish
Speaker 2: so he can't win it. But Martin, who ranging about
Speaker 2: his friend's dogs scared of their food ball. We've got
Speaker 2: some cherish coming out your way, mate, So yeah, thanks
Speaker 2: thanks to Scott trying to win his own product. Yeah
Speaker 2: all right, Heyl, thank you very much.
Speaker 26: You're welcome.
Speaker 2: Give Tony carle for us. Do you still have that
Speaker 2: vet working with you? Who's the mad Collingwood support? Yes,
Speaker 2: Leah Leah, she's still with us.
Speaker 26: Yeah. So they've got Hawthorn this week, so that'll be interesting.
Speaker 24: Yeah.
Speaker 26: No, she's having a great year this year. So we
Speaker 26: don't talk about football.
Speaker 2: Much being West coast, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 26: Avoid those conversations.
Speaker 2: Bruce's here, Bruce to watch Origin Game one last night.
Speaker 2: Of course I did absolutely enjoy it. Yes, and no
Speaker 2: one sided, but still a good game, wasn't it. It
Speaker 2: was you sort of.
Speaker 5: I'm always concerned with Origin because they tend to put
Speaker 5: the best players out there, and the best players try
Speaker 5: to win the game every time. So I thought New
Speaker 5: South Wales will one up all the time, where at
Speaker 5: least Queensland threw it around. I thought he's a better
Speaker 5: flowing game from Queensland.
Speaker 36: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Still, good boy, he's got across and we won.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Happy Trell Mitchell he's a man. He's anything happened there,
Speaker 2: absolutely anything. You never know whether he's going to jump
Speaker 2: in the crowd and punch on with the spectators or
Speaker 2: whatever he's going to do. Mel. Thank you, lucky to
Speaker 2: have you on the show and I look forward to
Speaker 2: seeing you in a fortnite.
Speaker 26: Sounds good.
Speaker 2: But on doctor Melkriddle from the Swan born vets End
Speaker 2: is still to come on the show. Steve Kilby, they
Speaker 2: say again Kilby, not Gilby, mister bell, I can't remember
Speaker 2: it saying it. I was under the pump. Steve Kilby
Speaker 2: will join us after twelve thirty. So he's playing tonight
Speaker 2: at the Milk Bar, which is in Mount Lorly. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but what's the old civy? Yeah, the old Civy and
Speaker 2: he's going it's quite an unusual show. He's got a
Speaker 2: string enseball and a few special guests. But he will
Speaker 2: be playing some church stuff as well. There's a bit
Speaker 2: of go between. It's a bit of church stuff. But
Speaker 2: Steve Kilby will join us on the phone in a
Speaker 2: just a minute, as will ow unclear. We'll have a
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Speaker 5: wa long weekend. This evening starts at midnight right through
Speaker 5: until Monday, the second of June. I'm Bruce wallsh On
Speaker 5: Perth Traffic Leader six PR.
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Speaker 2: for the Woodside protesters?
Speaker 9: Yes? Or no?
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Speaker 2: We are keeping a poll today and we'll keep it
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Speaker 2: More news at one. Thank you very much, John, Thanks
Speaker 2: for all of that. It's twenty two twenty two minutes
Speaker 2: to one o'clock. We're going to talk to Steve Kilby. Now,
Speaker 2: Steve Kilby's in Perth, former front man of the Church,
Speaker 2: of course, is tricky. He's never talked to stell Steve
Speaker 2: Kilby without mentioning the Church. And he's got a nice
Speaker 2: little show tonight at the Milk Bar, which is in Inglewood,
Speaker 2: the former Civic Hotel, and Steve Kilby is about to
Speaker 2: join us.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 2: I know these are old songs. I know these albums
Speaker 2: go back to the nineteen eighties. But I hope you don't.
Speaker 2: Hope Steve doesn't mind me playing that thumping bassline. We
Speaker 2: talked to him before he does playing the bass because
Speaker 2: all the dust falls out of the roof and the
Speaker 2: whole building shakes. But he's here, and this show is
Speaker 2: called Jack Frost and Grant mcclennan and me. I mean
Speaker 2: you to introduce Steve. Do you play under the milky Wade?
Speaker 2: Do you play unguarded moment? I've chosen this one. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: when you were mine. Now, I used to own a
Speaker 2: hold in HQ. I used to play that at eleven.
Speaker 2: I used to play that at eleven every single time
Speaker 2: I was in. Steve Kilby joins us right now today, Steve,
Speaker 2: how are you hey?
Speaker 39: How are you good?
Speaker 2: Mate? Welcome back to Perth.
Speaker 39: Yep, thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell us about this show tonight, because it's a
Speaker 2: show with a bit of a difference, isn't it it is?
Speaker 39: I'm looking In nineteen ninety one and then again in
Speaker 39: nineteen ninety four, Grant mcclennan and I made two albums
Speaker 39: together and they've just been re released after all these
Speaker 39: years by a record company in England. And I've got
Speaker 39: this wonderful bunch of Perth musicians. We've been doing this tour.
Speaker 39: We did it in Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane and tonight
Speaker 39: is the last night and it's in Perth and we're
Speaker 39: really all playing well. We've got a cello and a violinist,
Speaker 39: we've got two guitarists, a keyboard player and two drummers
Speaker 39: and me. It's a cast of thousands and we're doing
Speaker 39: we're doing Jack Frost, the first album in its entirety,
Speaker 39: and then we're coming back and we're doing Go Betweens
Speaker 39: and Church Numbers.
Speaker 2: Yeah nice, that sounds amazing, so ans Rachel Equallenroola no
Speaker 2: violin Yeah, it's a typo on my machine.
Speaker 39: It's nothing to us, but to them it's the whole world.
Speaker 2: It's just this sheet. Hey, what's the set list look like?
Speaker 2: How does it comprise this evening?
Speaker 39: Well, didn't I just say that Jack Frost? The first
Speaker 39: set we're doing the Jack Frost in its entirety, and
Speaker 39: then the second set we have a little break, and
Speaker 39: then the second set is church and go between snumbers
Speaker 39: rearranged for this particular ensemble, and they all really come
Speaker 39: to life so much. It's amazing what the cello and
Speaker 39: the violin add and these players are like wonderful West
Speaker 39: Australian musicians, and they're all they're all just doing it.
Speaker 39: You know, not a hell lot of money in this,
Speaker 39: they're just doing it for the because they love. It's
Speaker 39: a labor of love, and there's a beautiful it's a
Speaker 39: beautiful thing.
Speaker 2: You did explain to me already?
Speaker 9: What what what?
Speaker 2: What it comes from? What's the How do you get
Speaker 2: to rehearse mate with this ensemble?
Speaker 39: Well, we rehearsed in Melbourne. We turned up and rehearsed
Speaker 39: for two days in Melbourne and then we did the
Speaker 39: first show in Brunswick. In Melbourne, so and look, we
Speaker 39: did do this so once before in Perth, so it's
Speaker 39: kind of we semi kind of knew what we were
Speaker 39: going to do anyway, but it's really picked up momentum,
Speaker 39: you know, playing in Sydney and Melbourne and then Brisbane,
Speaker 39: the show just seemed to it just seems such a shame.
Speaker 39: I wish I wish we were doing going to be
Speaker 39: doing it more. And you know, Grant and I never
Speaker 39: got to do this show, play these songs properly with
Speaker 39: an acoustic show where we played them acoustically, but we
Speaker 39: never we never played them with a whole electric band
Speaker 39: and with the with the strings and everything. So it's
Speaker 39: I don't know, it brings back a lot of beautiful memories.
Speaker 39: And and you know we do the we do the
Speaker 39: go between songs pretty faithfully as well. So if you
Speaker 39: if you, if you're a big fan of the Gobies,
Speaker 39: I think we do some pretty good versions. We've got
Speaker 39: this wonderful player, Adrian Hoffman, local a local guy. He
Speaker 39: plays guitar and he's the singer and he he's channeling
Speaker 39: Grant when he sings. It's like a lot of people
Speaker 39: have said to me, you know, you close your eyes
Speaker 39: and it's Grant singing nice. So it's a it's a lovely,
Speaker 39: lovely night of sort of nostalgic looking back at you know,
Speaker 39: me and what Grant and I did, and then what
Speaker 39: Grant did in the go between. Yes, I know, it's
Speaker 39: kind of a it's a really lovely show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, You've always been a creative You've always been you know,
Speaker 2: that's always you know, from my understanding and having seen
Speaker 2: your heaps of times, you've always been a creative bloke.
Speaker 2: And this sounds like the ultimate creative endeavor. Bringing musicians
Speaker 2: together just for these sessions and and reworking and rebooting
Speaker 2: some old material must be it must be cool to
Speaker 2: play it live.
Speaker 7: It really is.
Speaker 39: It's it's made me very happy. It's strange, you know,
Speaker 39: like I do a lot of shows with the Church,
Speaker 39: and you know, the Church about to go to America
Speaker 39: and do thirty shows, and then later on in the
Speaker 39: year we're coming back and we're doing this huge store
Speaker 39: and there's a certain satisfaction and excellence that the Church
Speaker 39: do and professionalism. But with this little gang of people,
Speaker 39: these these musicians, it's something really special. It's quite I
Speaker 39: don't know, and I'm not you know, everybody knows I'm
Speaker 39: a bit of a cynical old sod, but like, no,
Speaker 39: it's very moving for me, and I feel like I
Speaker 39: feel Grant somewhere out there in the ether looking on
Speaker 39: and approving of this and loving what we're doing. So yeah,
Speaker 39: it's not just it's not just your usual old rock
Speaker 39: and roll thing. This it's a really it's a lot
Speaker 39: of love involved.
Speaker 2: Yes, makes sure it makes you think of your mate. Hey,
Speaker 2: so we've got some tickets available tonight Steve, haven't we
Speaker 2: And it's at the the Milk Bar, but he's actually
Speaker 2: inside the Civic Hotel, isn't it. So it's a it's
Speaker 2: a ripping venue and perfect for a show, for a
Speaker 2: show like you see, Steve.
Speaker 8: Are you in?
Speaker 2: I know you mentioned the synthesism and you're nice and
Speaker 2: chatty with us today. Are you having a chat in between?
Speaker 2: Are you reminiscing and chatting to the crowd?
Speaker 27: Oh?
Speaker 39: Oh yeah, all the songs have come come with a chat. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 39: I'm telling the whole story, and I yes, misty eyed,
Speaker 39: rose colored glasses. It's very hard to talk about Grant
Speaker 39: without getting all nostalgia. You know, he left us, He
Speaker 39: left us in two thousand and seventy was only like
Speaker 39: forty five or something. Yep, and so much more he
Speaker 39: could have done and like he was my w It's
Speaker 39: no exaggeration say he was the best friend I ever had.
Speaker 39: And we we put a lot of love into our
Speaker 39: records and this band and only made possible by Adrian
Speaker 39: Adrian Hoffman's wonderful singing that.
Speaker 30: He that he can he can sound just.
Speaker 39: Like Grant and play guitar just like Grant, and that's
Speaker 39: that's that's the only reason it's even possible to do
Speaker 39: these shows, because the Grant sort of component is there.
Speaker 2: I spoke to Mark mcintie a couple of years ago, Steve,
Speaker 2: you know, from the the Vinyls, and he talked about
Speaker 2: losing his best mate.
Speaker 13: It must be.
Speaker 2: It must be. I mean, we're all getting older and
Speaker 2: the songs always remind us, but it must be difficult
Speaker 2: sometimes that it does bring up such strong feelings and memories,
Speaker 2: because that's what music does, right.
Speaker 39: That's exactly what music does. It's that's exactly what it does.
Speaker 39: So yeah, I get quite misty up there, I believe me.
Speaker 2: And I did want to mention that the chatting between
Speaker 2: songs I reckon all you guys who've been around for
Speaker 2: a while through the countdown here and whatever. It's it's
Speaker 2: a really nice refreshing thing for you know, when we
Speaker 2: used to go and see you when you were a
Speaker 2: rockcord you didn't talk to us all that much. But
Speaker 2: may you do, which is good. We love it.
Speaker 39: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, yep, there'll be a lot of
Speaker 39: there'll be a lot of talking.
Speaker 2: Sure, all right mate, always nice to chat to you.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having a chat to our crowd tonight,
Speaker 2: and we'll get we'll try and get some listeners along.
Speaker 39: Hey, that would be fantastic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, the good one, go well tonight, Thank you, Okay,
Speaker 2: thank you, bye, see mate. Steve Kilby from a front
Speaker 2: man of the Church and of course a mates with
Speaker 2: you know, mates with his Mark Grant from the from
Speaker 2: the Go Betweens the gobe as he said, Grant McLennan
Speaker 2: and the sleeve. The actor is called Jack Frost. Grant
Speaker 2: McLennan and me. Their tickets still a veil Ball. General
Speaker 2: admission is around about sixty bucks, but you're getting a
Speaker 2: full You're getting a full seven piece band including a
Speaker 2: callo of violin and a ripping band as well.
Speaker 4: So this is.
Speaker 2: In Maylands tonight at the Milk Bar. Now he's been
Speaker 2: very patient, Brian, Brian going to talk to you in
Speaker 2: just a second, mate, we'll get you back in just
Speaker 2: a second. We've got two double passes to the show tonight.
Speaker 2: Two double pass to the show night. Call me if
Speaker 2: you've seen the church when? Where?
Speaker 13: What was it?
Speaker 9: Like?
Speaker 2: I reckon the church played at the Entertainment Center. It
Speaker 2: is nine dollars ninety six and that will probably remind
Speaker 2: you probably to giveway as to who the radio station
Speaker 2: were that sponsor it. Nine dollars ninety six, moving pittures
Speaker 2: church and Australian crawl. How good is that? Thirteen to
Speaker 2: one give us a call one double three eight euty two.
Speaker 2: We've got a church memory. Call us and you could
Speaker 2: win a double pass aga and see the show tonight
Speaker 2: at the milk Bar at the Civic good I JB
Speaker 2: JB's a golfan, he said, what a six pr mentioning
Speaker 2: Hannah Green on the news with one major, not Minji
Speaker 2: Lee with two? Just in should dab not sure? This
Speaker 2: is the Erin Hills Golf Course tournament details May twenty
Speaker 2: nights to June the first, So yeah, Hannah Green w
Speaker 2: a product coach by Richie Smith as we know, as
Speaker 2: you know, but so a Minji is in the field
Speaker 2: as well. Mate. It's a massive field, incredible number of players.
Speaker 2: Hannah Green ranked eighth in the world I think in
Speaker 2: the l G e.
Speaker 27: P A.
Speaker 2: But certainly Minji lee On is on the start list
Speaker 2: as well. One double, thank you mate, One double three
Speaker 2: a day.
Speaker 9: Two.
Speaker 2: Do you have a story about the church? About going
Speaker 2: to see the church. We've got a couple of couple
Speaker 2: of double passes the give away to the show at
Speaker 2: the milk Bart tonight at the Civic. Gooday, Eric, Oh,
Speaker 2: get a Simon.
Speaker 33: How are you going?
Speaker 2: Good mate? What's your story?
Speaker 13: Good?
Speaker 39: Ah?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 33: Myst mate and I in about nineteen eighty two. I'm
Speaker 33: trying to think what you.
Speaker 4: Would have been.
Speaker 33: We worked in Albany and we drove up on a
Speaker 33: Friday night. We left Albany past five to go and
Speaker 33: see the church at a club.
Speaker 4: It was in town.
Speaker 33: I can't remember. It was all I remembers.
Speaker 39: We had to go upstairs and.
Speaker 33: We were only about nineteen eighteen or nineteen, and we
Speaker 33: got up there and I was setting up and I
Speaker 33: took them as to sett and I don't know whether
Speaker 33: other boys were having them muck around backstage or something whatever.
Speaker 33: So by the time they got on to play, my
Speaker 33: mate and I were just about to sleep after all
Speaker 33: the way from Anyway. And then unfortunately I asked my
Speaker 33: mate in twenty eleven and I was given the honor
Speaker 33: of choosing a song for when we were coming into
Speaker 33: the chapel at the cemetery. And yeah, so Under the
Speaker 33: Milky Way Tonight was played as he was walked into theory.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's nice, mate, that's nice. What was your mate's
Speaker 2: Perry Perry?
Speaker 33: Yeah, and he had a green box wag and beetle
Speaker 33: and we drove all the away from Anyway. We've got
Speaker 33: to leave them play, that was the main thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you may know this, or Rusty Collette may
Speaker 2: know this because he's a feeling in for Oli this afternoon.
Speaker 2: Who's a big, big crook? Was Under the Milky Way
Speaker 2: was later, wasn't it? Because eighty eighty one was the
Speaker 2: first couple of albums was and I think Under Milky
Speaker 2: Way came.
Speaker 33: Yeah, it would have done. Yeah, yeah, I just can't remembering. Yeah,
Speaker 33: I don't think Under.
Speaker 20: The Milk.
Speaker 33: In the early eighties, but yeah, twenty eleven. That's sour
Speaker 33: yea man.
Speaker 2: If you want to go tonight, I will put you
Speaker 2: back to Sean and Am. If you do want to
Speaker 2: go tonight, we've got a couple of tickets we can
Speaker 2: give give to Where do you live now? Mate?
Speaker 33: I leave about four hundred meters from the Suvier Hotel.
Speaker 2: I reckon you should go?
Speaker 33: Well, I was going to I was thinking that I
Speaker 33: was going to go anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I reckon you should go. I'll put you
Speaker 2: back to Sean Ann and we'll send the get the
Speaker 2: tickets out to your pronto. Mate. We'll make sure you
Speaker 2: get to enjoy the show. Hey, and give us a
Speaker 2: shout tomorrow. Tell us how he goes?
Speaker 33: Okay, thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Thanks mate. Have you got the tune there? Max? How
Speaker 2: good is this song? Hello? Rusty? How here you good?
Speaker 36: Sometimes?
Speaker 2: And this class gets come?
Speaker 39: Yeah, let's see.
Speaker 2: I think Rolling Stone magazine said best the Australian song
Speaker 2: of the last thirty years a few years ago. I
Speaker 2: probably grew pretty good, man. It's a classic.
Speaker 40: And guess rising.
Speaker 2: I'm just talking to your producers and a little pub somewhere.
Speaker 40: No, no better still, I said to your producers. I said,
Speaker 40: I saw them live and they said we're about I said, wait,
Speaker 40: I said, what's.
Speaker 2: Weight w our Institute of Technology, Thank you sis. I
Speaker 2: went one year until the MAT's got a bit hard
Speaker 2: in engineering. Then I went did a phyzed degree. They
Speaker 2: used to do some great bands that they did me.
Speaker 34: I saw that.
Speaker 40: Who was Hannahs and Collectors?
Speaker 2: Wait, yeah, wait, look at you go? How are you?
Speaker 2: How are you? Mate? Really good? Olie's beet Crooks. So
Speaker 2: you'll be with Perth Life from one to five.
Speaker 40: Some of the supplementary presenter's list mate. And they've called
Speaker 40: me in busy busy show today, very good show today,
Speaker 40: by the way, soon. I've really enjoyed your work.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Rusty. I just want to say you are
Speaker 2: a very loyal and supportive fellow.
Speaker 40: No I say that I do like it, and that
Speaker 40: vote today, I'm a no voter. I think they're just
Speaker 40: going to continue on annoying people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all they know. Is it over for the
Speaker 2: Woodside protest. I made a couple of calls yesterday Rusty
Speaker 2: and spoke to a few of the hardliners and they're
Speaker 2: pretty rattled by what they heard yesterday from Murray what
Speaker 2: and they just I think they realized that what they
Speaker 2: have been doing hasn't worked politically in terms of campaigning.
Speaker 2: So I think they've got to reboot it. But I'll
Speaker 2: give you the honors, Russ, Yes or no? Is it
Speaker 2: over the woodside protesters? What are our listeners saying?
Speaker 40: Okay? For their final votes? Are in fifteen have voted
Speaker 40: yes that it is all over?
Speaker 2: Sixty one, but you and I voted no plus you
Speaker 2: so sixty two sixty sixty three from me. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think there's more water to go under the bridge there
Speaker 2: have for us today, mate.
Speaker 40: Very busy day, mate, very busy day.
Speaker 24: Again.
Speaker 40: We're going to find out more about a doge. There's
Speaker 40: a call for a doze here in the Australia. I
Speaker 40: think it's a very good call, one hundred percent behind it.
Speaker 40: I just think we have a lot of a lot
Speaker 40: of gunment money getting washed around in the economy. I
Speaker 40: liked a bit more auditing of it all and I
Speaker 40: like that to be pretty public.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, some more TRANSPI disparacy, a doge. What else?
Speaker 40: Absolutely travel loong will be end. We're also going to
Speaker 40: find it bees money. You big fan of bees?
Speaker 9: I love Bees?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.
Speaker 40: Yeah, we're going to find it.
Speaker 2: More about a fan of being stung by them. But
Speaker 2: I do like them.
Speaker 40: I've been sung a few times. I've never really blown up, though.
Speaker 40: Have you ever blown Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I don't know why I
Speaker 2: don't blow up. It's a he's the mean thing, isn't
Speaker 2: it you to do or you don't?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Not mad though.
Speaker 40: Jammie Bennett's going to catch up part of the week, yep,
Speaker 40: something you and I love a part of the week.
Speaker 4: You do.
Speaker 40: What's your beef to get get it off people's chest
Speaker 40: before the weekend? Yeah, I think something is eating it.
Speaker 2: Jack get rid of it today with us. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 2: I'll be listening. Thank you all the very best. I
Speaker 2: believe the shoe bar was cranking last night with the
Speaker 2: origin supporter. So what only he go and I'll see
Speaker 2: you there soon absolutely, yeah, all right mate. Russell Collette
Speaker 2: filling in for Olie Peterson coming off the supplementary presenter's bench,
Speaker 2: which I didn't know we had one of those three
Speaker 2: minutes to one. Thanks for being part of the program today, Henry,
Speaker 2: you're at caller today. He talked to us about signing.
Speaker 2: He won two tickets to see the British Irish Lions
Speaker 2: versus the Force on June twenty eighth at Opta Stadium
Speaker 2: and on the show tomorrow, Glenn Jakovitch be talking footy.
Speaker 2: Hiss tipped Brisbane tonight against Essenon by twenty seven points,
Speaker 2: and Murphy will return with Chris Murphy's Magical Mystery Tour.
Speaker 2: See then