WEBVTT - Perth Today with Simon Beaumont Podcast - Thursday, 29 May 2025

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<v Speaker 1>On Perth six PR. This is Perth Today with Simon

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<v Speaker 1>Beaumont yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning. I hope you're going well. Thanks to Millsy

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<v Speaker 2>and Karl and Tracy, Nlana and the team. Jimmy Key's

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<v Speaker 2>over there will be here until one o'clock today. If

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<v Speaker 2>you like the phone in, you can one double three

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<v Speaker 2>eight eighty two. Thanks for listening in. For all the

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<v Speaker 2>people listening on the app, thank you. I know there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of you and we do appreciate that and

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<v Speaker 2>that gives you that I guess the option of texting

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<v Speaker 2>the show. If you're listening to us on your phone,

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<v Speaker 2>on your electric telephone, zero four eight seven triple nine

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<v Speaker 2>eight eighty two is the text number. I've got a

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<v Speaker 2>yes no question for you in just a second, and

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<v Speaker 2>to do with a wash up from the Woodside decision yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to ask you a question and it's around

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think the protesters will do from here?

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<v Speaker 2>I talked to Milsey about it a little bit and

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<v Speaker 2>now a little crossover today, what do you think? I'll

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<v Speaker 2>ask you a yes no question on the on the

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<v Speaker 2>hardline activism that the Woodside protesters have been undertaking, because

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<v Speaker 2>it hasn't worked. He hasn't worked politically. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>it's worked in terms of community support given what we've heard.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, as we know, sometimes on these issues

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<v Speaker 2>there can be a silent majority. But we will go

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<v Speaker 2>to that in just a moment. Also on the program today,

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<v Speaker 2>Law Talk with Nick Maruchak from MKI Legal. Melkritle will

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<v Speaker 2>join us from the swan Borne Vet Center to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about your beloved pets. And Steve Gilby the former frontman

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<v Speaker 2>of the Church, bass player, singer, songwriter Steve Gilby will

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<v Speaker 2>have a chat to us a little bit later on

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<v Speaker 2>Steve's playing in Perth tonight out at the Civic, So

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<v Speaker 2>we'll have a chat with Steve in just a second

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<v Speaker 2>on the program. Want to try and clear something up

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<v Speaker 2>first off, if we could.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, let's clear this up once and for all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes or no? Is it over for the Woodside protesters?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it all over? After Murray? What the Federal Environment

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<v Speaker 2>Minister in yesterday in principle get backed the gas producer

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<v Speaker 2>Woodside in looking to extend the lease until twenty seventy

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<v Speaker 2>with some conditions, of course, what do you reckon? Is

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<v Speaker 2>it over for the protesters? Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Or no?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it is im and no on this one.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you reckon? Is it over for the protesters?

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<v Speaker 2>So the anti activism, the anti Woodside activism has been ferocious,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been sustained. Here's a chronology. Here's a quick rundown

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<v Speaker 2>of some of the major hardline activism headlines, if you will.

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<v Speaker 2>Going back to November twenty twenty one, the protests started

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<v Speaker 2>against Woodside sponsorship of the Nippers. Nippers are the little

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<v Speaker 2>kids that do serve life saving and Woodside Nippers is

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<v Speaker 2>on all their little shirts that they wear at surf

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunday mornings. So that's when it started. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>first time I can remember it starting November twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>In September twenty twenty two, Woodside Echoside gets played somewhat

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<v Speaker 2>surprisingly to those of us who were there at a

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<v Speaker 2>midnight oil concert. It was a song and for about

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<v Speaker 2>five minutes, and it ended with a slide with Pete

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<v Speaker 2>Ga pointing to a slide up on stage which said

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<v Speaker 2>here's mart McGowan's email, his rees Whippy's email. He was

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<v Speaker 2>the Environment Minister. So that was September twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>A year later, in twenty three, Dockers fans down at Fremantle,

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<v Speaker 2>Freemantel Dockers supporters, Alex Hillman, Dale Kickett, Jered McNeil, Jill O'Shaughnessy,

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<v Speaker 2>Hello Jill if you're listening. Carmen Lawrence, just to name

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<v Speaker 2>a few, protested that Frio was sponsored by Woodside. That

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<v Speaker 2>was in September twenty three. January twenty twenty three. Frederick

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<v Speaker 2>mccobbin's Down on His Luck one of our most famous

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<v Speaker 2>paintings of all time, Australian paintings all time. Down in

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<v Speaker 2>this loot was the Face at the Art Gallery by

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<v Speaker 2>Desmond Blurton and a ceramic artist called Joanna Partika. That

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<v Speaker 2>was twenty three point being. The activism has been sustained

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<v Speaker 2>and unrelenting. You could argue, you give what we saw yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>it hasn't worked. August twenty twenty three a gang of

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<v Speaker 2>four go to Meg O'Neil's house and a charge with

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<v Speaker 2>attempted trespart in criminal damage Matilda Lane Road, Rose, Jesse

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<v Speaker 2>Noaks and mil Davis and Gerard mass Masa and they

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<v Speaker 2>pleaded guilty and received fines. So my mail on this

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<v Speaker 2>is that it's been sustained, unrelenting. They've been painting Woodside

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<v Speaker 2>as the environmental death star, and I will not. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>it'd be only fair to notice that earlier this year

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<v Speaker 2>Woodside inadvertently dumped sixteen thousand leaders of hydrocarbons up near

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<v Speaker 2>x Mouth into the ocean that he's being investigated. But

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<v Speaker 2>my male is that the decision yesterday was unexpected and

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<v Speaker 2>has rattled the big hitters in the activist movements. The

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<v Speaker 2>timing caught people by surprise, Murray Wat's timing and the

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<v Speaker 2>clear cut nature of the Murray What decision has rattled people.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can argue that the activism hasn't worked. The

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<v Speaker 2>hardline tactics haven't worked. Politically, I'm not sure if they've

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<v Speaker 2>worked in getting community support from people like myself and

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<v Speaker 2>older West Australians. The push to get people like Kate

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<v Speaker 2>Hewlett into State and fees Parliament hasn't worked either. So

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<v Speaker 2>what next? And do you think it's over? Let's sort

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<v Speaker 2>that it's out. Is it over? Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>Or no?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it now over? For the Woodside protest is what

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<v Speaker 2>are they going to do now? Is the drilling in

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<v Speaker 2>the brows basin the new the new battleground one double

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<v Speaker 2>three eight D two. Thanks for listening in today, Ray says,

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<v Speaker 2>your guest is Steve Kilby with a K, not Gilby.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry if I said Gilby, Ray, I really like

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Kilby, always have Steve Kilby on the show. A

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<v Speaker 2>little bit later on, Let's clean this up. So I

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<v Speaker 2>must have said it because Greg said the same. Sorry Greg, Sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>Ray yees, Steve Kilby. Sorry, everybody, absolutely right. I stand corrected.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's sort this out. Is it over for the Woodside protest?

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<v Speaker 2>Is the noseer two and the yeses of a one?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me know today. Meg O'Neill, the head of Woodside,

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<v Speaker 2>is still in Queensland at that convention. At that conference

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<v Speaker 2>and she spoke about the rock art on the bar

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<v Speaker 2>up yesterday.

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<v Speaker 6>We have a very strong working relationship with the Merjigga

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<v Speaker 6>Aboriginal Corporation. We've worked closely with traditional custodians for more

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<v Speaker 6>than forty years now, and whilst we haven't always gotten

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<v Speaker 6>it right, we have very strong working relationships now and

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<v Speaker 6>we support the World Heritage listing and we believe industry

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<v Speaker 6>and heritage can coexist. I'll leave it to the state

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<v Speaker 6>and the federal government to comment on.

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<v Speaker 2>The UN report. That's mega O'Neil yesterday, so there's more

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<v Speaker 2>to come here. I don't think I'm a no on this.

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon it's not over for the Woodside protests, as

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<v Speaker 2>they will keep going. They'll probably changed tactic, they'll probably

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<v Speaker 2>get more creative. It hasn't worked, hasn't worked politically. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure if it's worked in terms of community support either.

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<v Speaker 2>Ken from Southern River Good Kim. Yes, it's all over

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<v Speaker 2>Red Road for the protesters, Thank you, mate, Aleen. The

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<v Speaker 2>voice of reasons is no, it's never really over professional

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<v Speaker 2>protests and activists. They'll continue to highlight their cause and

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<v Speaker 2>whatever way they can. Thank you. A lean Paulice is

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<v Speaker 2>back in two thousand and nine. Under the Milky Way

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<v Speaker 2>by the Church has both of the best song for

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<v Speaker 2>the past twenty year. It was poorly Sorry for saying Gilbert,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone I stand corrected. Gabby Hi Gabs, He says sadly, No,

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<v Speaker 2>she's a no. Fiona says, has Carmen Lawrence swapped out

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<v Speaker 2>her gas stove? Yet not a bad question? One double

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<v Speaker 2>three eight eighty two is the number of the text

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<v Speaker 2>number zero four eight seven triuble nine eight eighty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Peter says yes. Roy Orbison had a hit called It's over.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one to hear from Lee. Why are you promoting

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<v Speaker 2>protests as a decision has been made the majority support

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<v Speaker 2>that we need. It can't live under constant protest by

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<v Speaker 2>minority groups. Law needs to apply to these vandals. Thanks Lee.

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<v Speaker 2>In Mandra it does, Mate. So you know these guys

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<v Speaker 2>are getting pinged. I think one of them is in

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<v Speaker 2>court this weekend or this Friday on a some stink

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<v Speaker 2>bomb activity. It's it's the biggest climate issue in Australian politics,

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<v Speaker 2>Lee at the moment, and I'm just wondering what they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to do next. It's been you know, they've been

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<v Speaker 2>on about this for four or five years, hardline activism.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark says no, but I wish it was no. This

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<v Speaker 2>is Jacob Hey, Jacob Green Labor voted with landslide state

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<v Speaker 2>and federal. Certainly in the Upper House Jacob, they were Mate.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for your correspondence today. Yeah. Taking the poll today,

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<v Speaker 2>is it over for the Woodside protests? A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people saying no, that they will keep Goingay Zenoy.

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<v Speaker 7>Mining Simon, how are you very well?

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<v Speaker 2>Mate?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I don't believe it's over at all. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 7>trust that Minister Murray Wood as far as I could

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<v Speaker 7>throw him. He's destroying lives, sheet trade in wa and

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<v Speaker 7>until he's given that the ultimate green light, I reckon.

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<v Speaker 8>We haven't got a real apprival yet.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's a good point, Zeno. It is subject to conditions.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you mate, so xeno not trusting Murray wad in

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<v Speaker 2>this regard. Trina of Mainland. Hi, Trina, thanks your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>I think most of us are just blown away by

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<v Speaker 2>the timeline. Granted until twenty seventy, that is a very

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<v Speaker 2>very long time since Trina, it is Trina, and I

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<v Speaker 2>did think Murray what would pull back on it. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>still get a messages of saying it's Steve Kilby. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I know it is, and I can't believe I said Kilby.

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<v Speaker 2>I apologize unreservedly. Steve Kilby will be with us a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit later on front Man for the Church, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best, the bloke he loves playing the basin

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<v Speaker 2>and making the roof shake. Excuse me, thank you for listening.

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<v Speaker 2>In Wonderble three eight to eighty two will come back

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<v Speaker 2>in just a moment. What does it mean the decision

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday by Murray? What it is conditional of course, based

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<v Speaker 2>on Woodside doing the right thing by emissions and some

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<v Speaker 2>other environmental conditions have been put on them. They've backed

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<v Speaker 2>away from being involved in areas near scott Reef. The

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<v Speaker 2>Heritage listed scott Reef. So we'll find out. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to the CCI, and there's a going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to a fellow who reckons, a guy Alex Hillman,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's going to talk about corporate responsibility and what

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<v Speaker 2>this means for forwood Side to have a social license

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<v Speaker 2>to operate and for their corporate responsibility there. Now the

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<v Speaker 2>decision is likely to be made. Thank you for listening,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, over for the Woodside protesters that nose are

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<v Speaker 2>ten and yes are three back in a sec yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>on the program and we had Adam Horton, he's the

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<v Speaker 2>opposition spokesperson on matters policing, and he called me Shane

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<v Speaker 2>and people. Jack you're very funny, he said, Hey, Shane,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Kilby, not Gilby. Thanks Jack, that's funny, well remembered.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry everyone, Steve Kilby on the show a bit later.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for your correspondence today. Sue Hi, Sue, she's as

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<v Speaker 2>much I wish it was over. They never give up.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll just come up with some other ridiculous plan, this

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<v Speaker 2>one here from bev Hip Bev No. I don't believe

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<v Speaker 2>it's over for the protesters. These xelots will find another

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<v Speaker 2>way to upset people. They need to take a hard

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<v Speaker 2>look at themselves, you know. And I've mentioned this a

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<v Speaker 2>few times. It's not a bad chat to have, is

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<v Speaker 2>it about the use of fossil fuels. I have been

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<v Speaker 2>completely perplexed and amused about how hard they've gone on Woodside,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would make the point that it arguably hasn't worked.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do know they're a bit rattled on this,

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<v Speaker 2>the protesters. They're wondering what they can do next. Is

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<v Speaker 2>it the Brown's basin? Is it the battle for Julian?

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<v Speaker 2>The Browse basin is the that is the next battleground?

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<v Speaker 2>What is yesterday's What does yesterday's decision mean economically? Aaron

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<v Speaker 2>Moore is the chief economist from the Chamber of Commerce Industry,

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<v Speaker 2>joins me. Now, could I Aaron.

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<v Speaker 9>Good I Simon or should I say Shane? We'll go

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<v Speaker 9>with Simon.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Poor blokes his first interview with me as well, so

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<v Speaker 2>he was remorseful. So what does this mean? And this

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<v Speaker 2>is conditional, so it's not it's not across the line yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you have you got some metrics on this for us?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh, look, this is a matter that sits with Woodside

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<v Speaker 9>at presently. It's a standard part of the regulatory procedure

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<v Speaker 9>that the Minister would come back with some conditions. I

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<v Speaker 9>assume and would be surprised if Woodside weren't working through

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<v Speaker 9>those issues over the coming days and then issuing a response.

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<v Speaker 2>To the Minister.

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<v Speaker 9>But you know, I trust and hope that all is

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<v Speaker 9>in order and that will get the absolute final confirmation

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<v Speaker 9>in the expected time period.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the Browse base in the next part of the

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<v Speaker 2>argument that still hasn't been approved as it aired, so

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<v Speaker 2>we've got you know, the lease in the contract has

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<v Speaker 2>been extended up until twenty seven conditions notwithstanding. Is Browse

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<v Speaker 2>the next sort of battleground you.

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<v Speaker 9>Think, Oh, look, and again look, this is a matter

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<v Speaker 9>for the company. I mean, here's the important thing. Signon

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<v Speaker 9>global capital is more mobile than ever and we just

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<v Speaker 9>can't assume that further investments of that nature and that

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<v Speaker 9>particular one that you refer to are some sort of

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<v Speaker 9>fate of complete. We're seeing jurisdictions around the world realizing

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<v Speaker 9>the critical role of gas for the energy transition, and

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<v Speaker 9>to keep prices down for consumers and households, and so

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<v Speaker 9>you know, it's incumbent upon not just companies to ensure

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<v Speaker 9>that the conditions are in place for those sorts of investments,

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<v Speaker 9>but the governments as well, to ensure they have regultory

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<v Speaker 9>and tax settings that are conducive to making those sorts

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<v Speaker 9>of those sorts of investments. Personally on behalf of the

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<v Speaker 9>w economy and the small businesses and the households that

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<v Speaker 9>exist in this day. I do hope that investments of

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<v Speaker 9>that nature occur in the future, but we can't just

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<v Speaker 9>assume that it will happen without good, constructive, effective government

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<v Speaker 9>policy that encourages that sort of investment.

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron, you did cci get to meet with mister Watt

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<v Speaker 2>when he was here a couple of weeks ago, and

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<v Speaker 2>were you surprised at how quickly you made this decision.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, we did meet with Minister what and we appreciated

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<v Speaker 9>his constructive engagement on the issue. He didn't speak with

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<v Speaker 9>us to any any detail particular about the Northwest Shelf decision.

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<v Speaker 9>Due to the sensitive, sensitive nature. We noted to the

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<v Speaker 9>Minister why we thought it was an important project to

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<v Speaker 9>go ahead. But he was very professional and careful and

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<v Speaker 9>guarded in his comments and so we had no insight

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<v Speaker 9>whatsoever into the decision. Look, he had to make the

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<v Speaker 9>decision by Saturday. I assume that the decision had been

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<v Speaker 9>made internally within the government. Now they just decided that

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<v Speaker 9>rather than ongoing speculation that they would make the announcement yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>There's economics in this, and this is why we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>to you with there's some politics in this as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you reflect on why you think Albanezi and what

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<v Speaker 2>have done this at this time and so quickly?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh? Look, I think, as I said before, there's just

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<v Speaker 9>a growing realization around the critical role that natural gas

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<v Speaker 9>will play in the future economy. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 9>absolutely vital for providing affordable and reliable energy in the

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<v Speaker 9>energy transition. We've seen what's happened in Spain and Portugal

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<v Speaker 9>in recent weeks and months where power systems are under

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<v Speaker 9>increasing strain due to renewables rollout, and renewables have an

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<v Speaker 9>absolutely critical part to play in the future of the

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<v Speaker 9>grid and we absolutely welcome more investment in solar and

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<v Speaker 9>wind into our grid. But if that does not occur

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<v Speaker 9>alongside additional additional supplies of natural gas, then affordability and

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<v Speaker 9>reliability will suffer. And so I think the federal government

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<v Speaker 9>pragmatically recognizes that. And beyond that, it's just so critical

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<v Speaker 9>to the future of our economy. If we look at, say,

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<v Speaker 9>for example, the explosion in the investment in assets like

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<v Speaker 9>data centers to underpin artificial intelligence, well, we want Western

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<v Speaker 9>Australia's economy to grow and diversify and it won't do

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<v Speaker 9>that without access to those sorts of investments. And those

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<v Speaker 9>sorts of investments require enormous, enormous quantums of energy, and

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<v Speaker 9>so we're not just looking at energy transition across the world,

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<v Speaker 9>we're looking to it. We're looking at a great energy addition.

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<v Speaker 9>There's going to be so much more energy required. And

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<v Speaker 9>if we want to be a modern, thriving, successful economy

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<v Speaker 9>that generates fantastic jobs for kids in remote communities and

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<v Speaker 9>into the cities as well, then we need to be

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<v Speaker 9>leaning into our natural advantages and what a competitive advantage

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<v Speaker 9>it is to have an asset like the Northwest Shelf

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<v Speaker 9>within our economy. And so that's why we're so excited

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<v Speaker 9>about the decision.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Aaron, thank you very much for talking to

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<v Speaker 2>us today. Thanks you time. Thanks to Aaron Maury. That's interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't that? It's the mobility of global capital is interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>So we know that China is part of this argument.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that America is China needs gas, and the

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<v Speaker 2>PM himself earlier this week used the phrase firming capacity,

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<v Speaker 2>which is around our ability to access natural gas in

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<v Speaker 2>energy production until such time as we transition into renewables.

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<v Speaker 2>One double three two, Dean says Simon. Peter Garrett protesting

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<v Speaker 2>against Woodside. He should shut his gob, says Dean, and

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<v Speaker 2>Dean goes on a little bit about when he was

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<v Speaker 2>Environment Minister. This is Peter Garrett from September twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>I was there this surprise quite a few of as

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 10>Everything else is secondary, secondary to the way that we

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<v Speaker 10>treat the planet and one another.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the song echo Side Woodside that just popped

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<v Speaker 2>up in the middle of the song list, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>some people like it, and some people said, mate play

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<v Speaker 2>play beds of burning or place up else. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's when I really started to take notice

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<v Speaker 2>that the protesting against the nippers, protesting against at the

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<v Speaker 2>midnight all concert going to Meg O'Neil's house facing mccubburn.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how all that went down. One double

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<v Speaker 2>three eight Edy two is the is the phone number?

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<v Speaker 2>So we're asking the question this morning is it over

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<v Speaker 2>for the Woodside protesters? And the nose are coming in

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<v Speaker 2>pretty strongly so a lot of our listeners think the

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<v Speaker 2>protesters will keep going Mark the Farmacist, Shane Beaumont, Shane Bowie,

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<v Speaker 2>but like David Bowie, but not really, Thanks Ma, and

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<v Speaker 2>Terry's Terry says, I find it interesting that the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>problem people have is you saying someone's name incorrectly. We

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<v Speaker 2>certainly do live in the lucky country. Thanks Terry from Forestfield.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all good fun, Terry. I shouldn't have said it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I did, and I apologize. One double three eight

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<v Speaker 2>Eddy two is the phone number? Stop the Woodbridge gas

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<v Speaker 2>project burn more Cole says, says Kay Caine, then you've

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<v Speaker 2>got Caine. I'd have to think about that, Caine. That's

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<v Speaker 2>very confusing all round. Is it over for the Woodside protesters?

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<v Speaker 2>We'll keep the poll going through until one o'clock today?

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<v Speaker 2>What is this? What's what is now? Woodside responsibility is

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<v Speaker 2>corporate responsibility in terms of its social license. State listening.

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<v Speaker 11>Still dealing with a crash in q Dale Tomkin Highway

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<v Speaker 11>northbound and stuff to Row Highway that left lane closed

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<v Speaker 11>by incident response and you can expect delays on the approach.

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<v Speaker 11>Otherwise the Mitchell southbound lingering delays, Burns Beach Road and

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<v Speaker 11>the Warwick Road. The equanan on Olds bounds still a

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<v Speaker 11>bit slow. Thomas to Anchortell Road. I'm Rob b Verumpauts

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<v Speaker 11>traffic leader six pr.

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<v Speaker 2>Siahs is via the text line that sarahs Hello Sarah,

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<v Speaker 2>She says, Simon, these woodside protesters are like jilted partners

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<v Speaker 2>whose exites have remarried. They can't accept the outcome because

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<v Speaker 2>the conflict has become their whole reason for being. Without it,

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<v Speaker 2>they either have to do something to define themselves with evaporate.

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<v Speaker 2>Redefining yourselves always difficult, hard work, and evaporation is unacceptable

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<v Speaker 2>for those who like to draw attention to themselves. Thank you, Sarah,

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon my mail, Sarah, thanks for your coro. Is

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<v Speaker 2>they rattled? They are rattled? Thanks for your thoughts and

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<v Speaker 2>Chas raises a really really good question. Why didn't the

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<v Speaker 2>labor government make the decision before the election. Simon Chaz

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon, that's that would be federal Labour sniffing the

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<v Speaker 2>wind a bit. I think to see how what the

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<v Speaker 2>lay of the land was like post election with the

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<v Speaker 2>Teals and with Greens and with the Greens, and they've

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they've come down swiftly, still subject to conditions

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<v Speaker 2>of course, about extending the lease until twenty seventy. Alex

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<v Speaker 2>Hillman is with the Ostralations Center for Corporate Responsibility. What

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<v Speaker 2>does this decision mean for Woodside? Getday, Alex, Good to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to.

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<v Speaker 12>You, Hice, Simon, good to be on the station.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you. We're running a yes no poll today.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it over for the Woodside processes? The yes are

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<v Speaker 2>five and the nose are twenty And I think you

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<v Speaker 2>would agree with that this this could really exacerbate and

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<v Speaker 2>inflame the hardline activists.

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<v Speaker 12>There's obviously a number of aspects to this. You know,

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<v Speaker 12>the environmental aspects are pretty clear. You're you're talking a

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<v Speaker 12>lot about the Yeah, the protests that that Woodsid's receiving.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, we spend a lot of time thinking about

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<v Speaker 12>investor perspectives and speaking to investors as well. Woodside doesn't

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<v Speaker 12>have a strong record of generating strong shareholder returns. It's

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<v Speaker 12>invested in a number of projects that that we think

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<v Speaker 12>have lost money, and we're actually concerned that that's that's

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<v Speaker 12>just going to happen again if it proceeds with Brows.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so that's that's the next bad, isn't it. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the next part of the puzzle. We suspect the Browse basis.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, yeah, I think so. So you know, this conditional approval,

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<v Speaker 12>we haven't seen what the conditions are, but that's to

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<v Speaker 12>operate Kraftic gas plant or the Northwest Shelf, which can

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<v Speaker 12>process gas. But that's running out of gas. So you know,

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<v Speaker 12>if if this this approval is granted, then you know

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<v Speaker 12>Woodside's going to be looking for other gas sources and

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<v Speaker 12>you know, probably the most prominent is is Brows.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I had a little phone around yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>and talked to people who are on the protest activism

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<v Speaker 2>side of it, Alex and they I think they're a

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<v Speaker 2>little rattled. They weren't expecting the decisions to be so

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<v Speaker 2>quick and so clear and so brutal. Conditions notwithstanding, if

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<v Speaker 2>I can ask you about that part of it, the

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<v Speaker 2>social license part of I guess for Woodside and their

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<v Speaker 2>corporate responsibility thereof you mentioned that there hasn't always been

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<v Speaker 2>a great investor return. People like me seduced by the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that they sponsor the Nippers, they had a nice,

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<v Speaker 2>big building in the city, they sponsored the Frio Dockers.

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<v Speaker 2>People like me seduced that by their community image.

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<v Speaker 12>I can't talk to what suggests you you know what,

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<v Speaker 12>thank you, but yeah, you know what I mean, they've

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<v Speaker 12>got to I think they've got a good rep in

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<v Speaker 12>in a brand in the community, haven't they, which which

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<v Speaker 12>goes to corporate responsibility. I think they act like they

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<v Speaker 12>need to protect their brands. You know, they do face

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<v Speaker 12>a lot of cruises criticism. I think, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 12>counter and intuitively to some of your listeners, they actually

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<v Speaker 12>don't generate strong chans. So over the last fifteen years

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<v Speaker 12>they've actually generated less shareholder return. They haven't generated enough

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<v Speaker 12>shaholder returns to keep up with inflation. They've generated a

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<v Speaker 12>point seven percent per year. So they've got they've got

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<v Speaker 12>a weak brand that they feel they need to protect,

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<v Speaker 12>and they've got a business model which which doesn't generate

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<v Speaker 12>strong returns for investors.

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<v Speaker 2>Seen as a WA company too, aren't they And they

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<v Speaker 2>are based here there employee about four thousand people. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that goes to branding, I suppose, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, Yeah, they are w based that they're increasingly focused

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<v Speaker 12>on Houston. So you know the current see Meg is

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<v Speaker 12>US based. Their last major investment was US based, So

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<v Speaker 12>I think they like to play up the fact that

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<v Speaker 12>they're a West Australian company. Yeah, and they still are

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<v Speaker 12>headquartered here, but you know, I think that there is

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<v Speaker 12>a gradual pivot towards them being increasingly Americanized.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Alex Hillman from the Australation Center for Corporate Responsibility.

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<v Speaker 2>If I were to ask you as a citizen, Alex

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<v Speaker 2>or even is you in doing your day job as

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<v Speaker 2>you are now? Yes?

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<v Speaker 13>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it over for the woodside protests? Are you yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Or are you a no?

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<v Speaker 14>No?

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<v Speaker 12>So I think climate change climate science is getting more certain,

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<v Speaker 12>the impacts are getting more real. You know, we're seeing

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<v Speaker 12>massive floods in New South Wales at the moment. We're

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<v Speaker 12>seeing massive droughts in South Australia at the moment. You know,

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<v Speaker 12>the Australian government is both sides of government have a

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<v Speaker 12>net zero policy so the energy transition is happening. Woodside

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<v Speaker 12>doesn't seem to accept this. They're still developing new fossil

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<v Speaker 12>fuels against what we would say is a shareholder interests

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<v Speaker 12>and against the you know, the accelerating energy transition that

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<v Speaker 12>the world's going through.

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<v Speaker 2>Mentioned firming capacity this week, alex He seems to think

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<v Speaker 2>or hint that we still were going to need gas

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<v Speaker 2>for a while.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, that's true. So you know that the energy transition

0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:56.879
<v Speaker 12>is happening. The vast bulk of energy or increased energy

0:24:56.880 --> 0:25:00.920
<v Speaker 12>supply each year and is now coming from renewables, and

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<v Speaker 12>what we're seeing in Australia and the East Coast and

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:06.639
<v Speaker 12>the West Coast, in Japan, in China and Europe, what

0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:09.399
<v Speaker 12>we're seeing is that renewables are backing out coal and

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<v Speaker 12>then as that happens, we're seeing less less demand for gas.

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<v Speaker 12>So although we need some gas to you know, while

0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:19.199
<v Speaker 12>we transition to a fully renewable grid, the amount of

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 12>gas we need is decreasing over time, and we already

0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:25.760
<v Speaker 12>have enough developed. So the International Energy Agency says that

0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:28.920
<v Speaker 12>we have a naughe developed gas reserves that we don't

0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:32.080
<v Speaker 12>need to develop anymore on our way through the energy transition.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for the chat today, Alex. Very good tactical move

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<v Speaker 2>not to comment on the seduction stuff. Well done. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for thanks.

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<v Speaker 12>Great to see you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks jeers mate, Alex Hillman Australian Center for Corporate Responsibility.

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<v Speaker 2>So that is interesting, isn't I guess they see the

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:50.879
<v Speaker 2>wood size returned investors isn't great. I'm probably like a

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:53.080
<v Speaker 2>lot of people. I see the Woodside ads on TV

0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:55.200
<v Speaker 2>had a bit to do with surf life saving over

0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:56.800
<v Speaker 2>the year, with my years with my kids. So I

0:25:56.840 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 2>see them sponsoring the Nippers program, they sponsor free oh

0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:02.480
<v Speaker 2>on the Jumper, so you do. And they employ a

0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:06.199
<v Speaker 2>lot of people. My mates work for them, so you know,

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 2>maybe that branding is something that we are seduced by

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:12.159
<v Speaker 2>and susceptible. Two do you think it's over for the

0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 2>Woodside protest as Alex Hillman reckons know. I'm a no.

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:18.560
<v Speaker 2>I think they'll keep going, but they need to probably recalibrate,

0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:23.680
<v Speaker 2>reboot what they have been doing in terms of hardline activism. One, double, three,

0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:25.359
<v Speaker 2>eight of the two, the yes are five and then

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:28.480
<v Speaker 2>those are twenty six. Get a phil thanks for calling.

0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:33.159
<v Speaker 15>Yes, gooda Simon. I just wanted to know why are

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:36.879
<v Speaker 15>they still exporting cole overseas from New South Wales and

0:26:36.960 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 15>Queensland when that produces probably three four times the amount

0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:46.000
<v Speaker 15>of greenhound greenhouse gases and gas does and why aren't

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:50.360
<v Speaker 15>they concentrating on that instead of the gas? And yes,

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:56.760
<v Speaker 15>I think it's over for the environments environmentalists because they're

0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:59.240
<v Speaker 15>not going to change the decision. They can keep protesting

0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 15>and protesting, but they won't change the decision now that

0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:02.720
<v Speaker 15>it's being made.

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean on the coal, I guess the simple

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 2>answer to that field is still a market for coal,

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 2>isn't there? And that's the that's a vexed question, and

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 2>we do have plenty of it. But you know the

0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 2>prime is that hindered very strongly that we need gas.

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 2>We need a gas export industry globally and here in

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:28.160
<v Speaker 2>Australia to firm up our transition to renewables. Wonderful, Thank

0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:29.720
<v Speaker 2>you Phil, Thanks for you call mate, and they running

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:33.720
<v Speaker 2>for core of the day. Hello Teresa, good morning, good morning.

0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:38.879
<v Speaker 16>I'm just phoning up of that the woodside demonstrating people. Yes,

0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 16>I don't making a pool themselves, helping needs you. It's

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:46.920
<v Speaker 16>a prime minister, H's what the main date and others

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 16>should shut up and get stuffed.

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:55.400
<v Speaker 2>All right, Thanks, thanks Teresa, concise to the point a

0:27:55.440 --> 0:28:01.200
<v Speaker 2>paucity of language. Yeah, he does have the mandate. I

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:03.239
<v Speaker 2>think they were waiting to see, you know, if they

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:05.120
<v Speaker 2>needed to get on with the Greens and the Teals

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:08.399
<v Speaker 2>and Kate Chaney and the like before they made decision.

0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Murray Wat's made the decision. A lot of our listeners

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 2>are aren't convinced. They are still very stroppy about Murray

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Watt's role in the cessation of the live sheep export trade.

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 2>So a lot of our listeners are setting messages to say, yeah, nah,

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:26.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, We'll wait until see what's over the line. Yes, no,

0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 2>is it over for the Woodside protests and knows we've

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 2>got this very strongly. I thought the yeses from our

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 2>listeners would be stronger than this. The nose are thirty

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:35.360
<v Speaker 2>and the yes of five. Get a bill.

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 17>Ooday bowie, How are you mate going? Well, yeah, I'm

0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 17>not sure about the guy you were talking to a

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:50.960
<v Speaker 17>bit earlier. He sort of came across as being a

0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 17>little little biased against Woodside. He didn't have a lot

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 17>of positive stuff to say about them, but that's his

0:28:57.000 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 17>progatives the same as everybody else. The biggest problem these

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 17>these protesters have made is they're just they're way too radical.

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 17>You know, they don't resonate. I don't believe they resonate

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:16.640
<v Speaker 17>with the general public. And you know, at the end

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 17>of the day, if the checks and balances are in place.

0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 17>And I'm ambivalent either way, the only sway for me is,

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 17>as you say, the thousands of jobs and you know,

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:32.320
<v Speaker 17>people arking up about sponsorship of the Nippers and the

0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 17>Freemantle docors. I mean, give me a break. Would you

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:40.880
<v Speaker 17>rather see cigarette and you know, alcohol sponsorship or something.

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 17>You know, it's it's crazy.

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Bill, I reckon the tobacco one is will

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 2>not happen or is never going to happen. But yeah,

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:52.800
<v Speaker 2>I do take your point. I mean an inter Energy

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 2>copper fair bit as well. I think that was a

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 2>pack comings it wouldn't wear yourn Inter Energy shirt as

0:29:57.440 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 2>the Australian captain. So Bill, my point of view is

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:05.840
<v Speaker 2>I think the hard lim activism stuff doesn't work with

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 2>people perhaps like you and me who you know, and

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 2>I care about the planet and the fishies and the

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:14.960
<v Speaker 2>boodies and the plants. But I don't know if the

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 2>hardline stuff has been working, and you could argue that

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 2>hasn't worked around the Woodside decision, around the Woodside decision.

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 2>Thanks Bill, thanks for your call today. One of our

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 2>listeners just let us know that Alex Hillman who was

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:30.000
<v Speaker 2>on used to work for Woodside and I've just looked

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 2>it up and that is hondo per one hundred percent correct.

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Alex Hillman worth for five years was Woodside Climate Change Advisor,

0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 2>So to our listeners, maybe that's why he was going

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 2>in so hard on Woodside to kind of balance the

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 2>ledger for people that knew that I didn't five years

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Woodside Climate Change Advisor. Get a Joe and.

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 18>How are you a good simon?

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 19>Very quickly. I've asked this question a few times on

0:30:57.440 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 19>the defunt Overnighters. We will now ask the question to you.

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 19>Can you please get a protester on the phone and

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 19>ask them out right if you really want to make

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:11.959
<v Speaker 19>a difference, why actually go and protest over in China

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 19>and India where you'll do better good over there than here.

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:19.480
<v Speaker 19>Because they're the biggest protest they're the biggest polluters. So yeah,

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 19>will you be able to ask one of them out right?

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:23.960
<v Speaker 19>And get an actual answer out of them.

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, well, thanks Joan. That's very a good point,

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 2>well made. Yeah, we know India and China are the

0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 2>great polluters of the planet. And I suppose you know

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 2>you can what was that saying, think globally, act locally,

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 2>can't you? I don't think that the I think the

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 2>protesters are rattled. This has set them back. They weren't

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 2>expecting the decision to be as clear cut and as

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 2>to come down, to be delivered as quickly, and they

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 2>are a little bit rattled. But they will keep I

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 2>believe they'll keep going and they'll become more creative. We'll

0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:57.959
<v Speaker 2>come back in just a set. Thanks for you all

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 2>your thoughts today. It's the aftermath of the you know,

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 2>the first stage in the Woodside extension of the gas lease,

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 2>and that's are you a Woodside investor? Do you work

0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 2>for Woodside? Do you If you are a Woodside investor,

0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 2>what have your returns been like? How do you see

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 2>them as a as a corporate entity? And so that's

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 2>the other side of the other side of the corn.

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 2>I think in the main the hardline stuff, you know,

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 2>the facing Frederick mccobbin's down on your luck even though

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 2>it's only on the perspects that was covering the painting

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:31.280
<v Speaker 2>out one of our greatest ever paintings, that that didn't

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 2>win any friends, did it. And you know, Frio people

0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 2>are freo people, you know, the people who live in

0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Freemantle and love it and support the Dockers, And I

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 2>don't know if they want any friends either. And you

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:46.240
<v Speaker 2>know some of the some of the candidates in the

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 2>state and federal elections down there didn't get up either.

0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 2>So you just wonder who these guys are talking to.

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 2>Maybe my kids twenty six, twenty five nineteen, Maybe they're listening.

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:00.400
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we'll be back in a moment. Thanks for listening.

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:02.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm Simon Beymont. This is Perth today. Yeah, thanks for

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 2>your thoughts. Today we are running poll. Do you think

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 2>the Woodside it's over for the Woodside protesters and those

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 2>have it very strongly, Hayden says no, gooda Hayden, Thank

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 2>you mate. Andy from Dianella, No, the campaign is not over.

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 2>We have enough gas to see us through the renewable

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 2>energy transition. We don't need to supply the rest of

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 2>the world at our peril, says Andy. And I've had

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 2>a few of these Joe, Joe, maybe if these less

0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:28.479
<v Speaker 2>lefty protesters had a mortgage in a job, they wouldn't

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 2>be protesting. It's a pretty common theme, Joe. I don't

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:35.480
<v Speaker 2>know whether they have or not. Then the probably is

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:40.800
<v Speaker 2>probably safe to say they're not all the same. Dave says,

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 2>God to love Joe and ask them outright. Thanks Davo.

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for your thoughts today. One of Nat says, I

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 2>wonder how many protests that we're in clothes made in China,

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 2>one of the worst polluters. Thank you, Nat, Thanks for

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 2>your thoughts today. Is it over for the Woodside protests

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 2>of the Yes is six and nose are thirty four?

0:33:56.880 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 2>Aleen has texted us the voice Overrey is Thanks John,

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Thanks Aileen. I think we need to be sensible and

0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 2>not hysterical about the Woodside. Leasa's gas is an important

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:09.400
<v Speaker 2>part of world energy transition. The community needs to benefit

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:11.320
<v Speaker 2>from the project and it also has to be commercially

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:12.960
<v Speaker 2>viable for the company which is in business to make

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 2>a profit, and it's up to the company to make

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 2>that determination. Woodside must abide by the condition set by

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:23.400
<v Speaker 2>the government. Aileen, Thank you. Sensible as always, hence the

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 2>title the Voice of reason. Yeah, all of that's true.

0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 2>And I did mention that the Woodside are currently under

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 2>investigation for spilling sixty one thousand liters of fluid into

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 2>the Indian Ocean and sixteen thousand leaders of that was

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:43.640
<v Speaker 2>made up of hydrocarbons and that was recently, so you know,

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:47.319
<v Speaker 2>it's not all beer and skittles in Woodside Land. Maddie

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 2>Cross joins us now from the six PR newsroom. She's

0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:51.360
<v Speaker 2>been to the premiers press conference at Bouga Tayte for

0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:51.840
<v Speaker 2>this morning.

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 20>Get a Maddie Hey Bowie.

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 21>Yeah, I'm here at Balga Tafe where the premiers made

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:02.560
<v Speaker 21>an announcement about taste. But I think the interest, obviously

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:07.240
<v Speaker 21>was his response to the federal government's decision to approve

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:11.440
<v Speaker 21>that Northwest Shelf extension, which you've been speaking about this morning.

0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:14.879
<v Speaker 21>So the project was given the green light to continue

0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 21>until twenty seventy in northern Wway, and Roger Cook says

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:24.920
<v Speaker 21>he's relieved and that it's good to know that the

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:28.360
<v Speaker 21>federal government are on the same page as his government,

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:32.799
<v Speaker 21>who already gave their green light for the project. He was,

0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:35.720
<v Speaker 21>you know, he was asked a lot about it, saying

0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:39.800
<v Speaker 21>gas is an important part of the future for lowering

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:44.320
<v Speaker 21>global emissions. But he did note that because this deal

0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:48.879
<v Speaker 21>is subject to a list of conditions, particularly around emissions

0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:52.439
<v Speaker 21>and air quality. Roger Cook says, he, you know, while

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 21>he's relieved, now he'll just await Woodside's decision and response

0:35:57.280 --> 0:36:00.319
<v Speaker 21>to those terms. They have ten days to a ond

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 21>to that, so they're going to consult with traditional owners

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 21>and things in those ten days and then I'm sure, yeah,

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 21>we'll keep across this topic and see what the outcome is.

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Maddie, thank you've sent some audio into a let's

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 2>play Roger Cook's some of his thoughts this morning. Here

0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:18.319
<v Speaker 2>we go.

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 22>Obviously there's a sense of relief but satisfaction that the

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:25.960
<v Speaker 22>Commonwealth agrees with the State government that we can continue

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:30.319
<v Speaker 22>with the Karatha gas plant for the foreseeable future to

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:34.840
<v Speaker 22>ensure that we can continue to process gas through that facility.

0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 22>This saves literally thousands of jobs in Western Australia, thousands

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 22>of jobs associated with that plant, tens of thousands of

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:47.279
<v Speaker 22>jobs of indirect employment, and of course it secures the

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 22>future for Karatha. So it's not just important for our

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 22>overall economy, it's important for regional wa So We're very

0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 22>pleased with the outcome of the initial decision, but obviously.

0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:58.560
<v Speaker 2>Now we have to wait for the final decision.

0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:02.760
<v Speaker 22>What happens now, Well, my understanding is that the Commonwealth

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 22>has to have a period of consultation with the stakeholder.

0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:09.400
<v Speaker 22>In this case, it's Woodside is the operator of the

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:14.600
<v Speaker 22>joint venture partnership, because they've provided some conditions that I'm

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:18.360
<v Speaker 22>not privy to in relation to the granting of the extension.

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:23.400
<v Speaker 22>And then once that consultation has been completed, the government

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:25.320
<v Speaker 22>will be in a position to make a final decision.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. So the federal and state labor governments are

0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:30.840
<v Speaker 2>in lockstep there, Maddie. What extra tape courses will be

0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:32.160
<v Speaker 2>free from next year?

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 21>Yeah, so it's this is why I am at balgut haste.

0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:42.759
<v Speaker 21>The announcement was for one hundred million dollars to invest

0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 21>into cheap, you know, low cost tape courses and also

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:51.879
<v Speaker 21>continue free courses and add even more to those so

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 21>from twenty twenty six thirty three and plumbing, wall and

0:37:56.800 --> 0:38:03.680
<v Speaker 21>ceiling lining, brick laying, construction and solid plastering they're amongst

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:08.400
<v Speaker 21>some that will be completely free of fees in twenty

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:13.800
<v Speaker 21>twenty six this funding will also just continue those low

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:19.440
<v Speaker 21>fee courses across WA, some that have already been popular,

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 21>things like childhood education, nursing, work, health and safety. So

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:27.920
<v Speaker 21>it's all about you know, we hear a lot from

0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 21>the politicians diversifying the economy. That was used a lot

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:35.280
<v Speaker 21>today and also you know they're made in WA plans,

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:38.279
<v Speaker 21>so it's all about getting people the skills to just

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:40.839
<v Speaker 21>go into that all those industries.

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, Maydi comprehensive. We'll see you when you

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:45.359
<v Speaker 2>get back and we'll hear your reports during the course

0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 2>of the day. Thank you, Thank you. Maddie Cross out

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 2>at the Bouga Tafe today. So there's a number of

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:54.760
<v Speaker 2>free courses. I'll just repeat those after the news today

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:57.279
<v Speaker 2>for those of you that got kids, or you might

0:38:57.320 --> 0:39:02.279
<v Speaker 2>be a mature age student interested in changing direction. We'll

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:04.000
<v Speaker 2>come back in just a moment. Thanks for listening. It's

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 2>five and a half minutes to ten o'clock coming up

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:09.399
<v Speaker 2>on the show that I wanted to ask you about

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:12.960
<v Speaker 2>cyclists today because you know, you know, Burke Drive in

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:18.720
<v Speaker 2>Adita goes from goes from sort of Turno Canning Highway

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Book Drive goes all the way through around to almost

0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 2>to point world of golf course counselor considering putting more

0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:30.360
<v Speaker 2>speed humps and making that a more more more friendly

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:34.799
<v Speaker 2>for cyclists and for motorists. It's probably one of the

0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:38.280
<v Speaker 2>most used bits of road by cyclists in the Metro area,

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:40.759
<v Speaker 2>and I wanted to ask you about that. Are you

0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:42.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, are you a cyclist? Say you're pro cycling,

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:45.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm not. I'm not completely sure that our listeners and

0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:50.160
<v Speaker 2>general people generally in the community like cyclists. I'm going

0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 2>to ask you that after after ten o'clock today, what

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:55.279
<v Speaker 2>do you reckon? You know that that bit of road,

0:39:55.320 --> 0:40:00.399
<v Speaker 2>Burke Drive is a is a massive cycling route. If

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 2>you're riding around the river, you might have heard that

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 2>phrase going for a ride around the river and Bert

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Drive is a big part of that. And they're looking

0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:09.280
<v Speaker 2>to try and calm it down even more with traffic

0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:12.839
<v Speaker 2>calming devices, speed cycling lanes and the light because they

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:15.279
<v Speaker 2>have accents on that road. So I'd love to talk

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:18.600
<v Speaker 2>to you about cycling after ten o'clock today, we will

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:20.480
<v Speaker 2>bring you up today. Is John Krey going to meet

0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:23.760
<v Speaker 2>with the people from the Inglewood Flats. Is John Kerry

0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:25.960
<v Speaker 2>going to meet with the people from the Inglewood Flats.

0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:27.399
<v Speaker 2>I'll bring it up to date on that as well.

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Nick Maruchik with law Talk after ten thirty, Thank you

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:32.960
<v Speaker 2>for listening. Yeah, thanks for your thoughts. We are running

0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:35.040
<v Speaker 2>a pole today. Is it over for the Woodside protests?

0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 2>As this has gone off this pole? As Chris Murphy

0:40:38.960 --> 0:40:41.359
<v Speaker 2>would say, this is going off the nose are thirty nine,

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 2>The yeses is seven, so people think that it's not

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 2>over that. You know, you could argue the hardline activism

0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:52.799
<v Speaker 2>hasn't worked politically from a community support basis, but most

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 2>people think the Woodside protesters will keep going. There's the battleground,

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.400
<v Speaker 2>the battle lines will perhaps be redrawn. Thanks for your

0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 2>thoughts and always happy to hear from you if you

0:41:01.120 --> 0:41:04.320
<v Speaker 2>are antie Woodside. As you know, it's ten o'clock now.

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:13.279
<v Speaker 1>On Perth six PR. This is Perth Today with Simon Beaumont.

0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Downhearted. I think the anti Woodside protests is feeling a

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:34.360
<v Speaker 2>little bit downhearted as of yesterday afternoon, so we're asking

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:36.759
<v Speaker 2>the question today what next for the protests? Is it

0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:41.160
<v Speaker 2>over for the Woodside protest? As I chronicled the rough

0:41:41.200 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 2>timeline of the high profile hardline activism initiatives, they've staged

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:49.759
<v Speaker 2>going right back to twenty twenty one when they first

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:54.520
<v Speaker 2>started protesting against the Woodside nippers, and it's been unrelenting

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:56.879
<v Speaker 2>and it's been sustained and it just keeps cropping up,

0:41:57.200 --> 0:42:03.600
<v Speaker 2>and it's been very, very strategic Woodside. But is it

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:07.320
<v Speaker 2>over the protests as well? Yes? Eight. See the yes

0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 2>is are eight and the nose are forty. So people

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:12.840
<v Speaker 2>are expecting more from the Woodside guys that disrupt the

0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:17.520
<v Speaker 2>Burroup Hub guys into the future. So keep your correspondence

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:19.080
<v Speaker 2>and your thoughts coming in. We will cover some other

0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:21.440
<v Speaker 2>topics that I wanted to ask you about cyclists and

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 2>about cycling on Burke Drive in Attadale. The it's a

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:30.600
<v Speaker 2>yes from Mesus Andrew in Secret Harbor today.

0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 5>Mate.

0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:32.960
<v Speaker 2>They can't stop the project. What are they going to

0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:37.320
<v Speaker 2>protest for the next forty years? No, of course not

0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:40.480
<v Speaker 2>s his Donna, and I've been asking you about Burk Drive.

0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:42.839
<v Speaker 2>So Burk Drive is probably one of the more high

0:42:42.920 --> 0:42:46.759
<v Speaker 2>profile roads streets, local roads that are used when you

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:50.120
<v Speaker 2>ride your pushbike around the river. It's changed over the years.

0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:54.000
<v Speaker 2>It's got narrower, it's got some sort of little traffic

0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 2>caarming devices on it now, but the councilor considering because

0:42:57.520 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 2>they're worried about the road itself. The council are looking

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:05.719
<v Speaker 2>to introduce more trafficcarming devices there now. It's right next

0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:07.960
<v Speaker 2>to the Big Dog Park. It overlooks the river. There's

0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:11.760
<v Speaker 2>some beautiful houses along there, and there is some traffic,

0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:13.880
<v Speaker 2>so I think it's fifty k is now for cars

0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:16.399
<v Speaker 2>along there. And I used to live on the road

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:19.080
<v Speaker 2>for a little while and it's very, very busy when

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:22.640
<v Speaker 2>it comes to cycling traffic. People ride in the ones, twos,

0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:25.640
<v Speaker 2>threes and in the big pelotons as well. Early in

0:43:25.719 --> 0:43:29.000
<v Speaker 2>the morning one double three eight two and we talked

0:43:29.000 --> 0:43:31.719
<v Speaker 2>to the councilor just a moment about the plan. Allen says,

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:35.560
<v Speaker 2>as a cyclist regularly use Burke drive it's great for

0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:38.320
<v Speaker 2>practicing for the two of them, market River team time trials.

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Speed Bumps will not helps, is Allen. Rather, they may

0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:43.560
<v Speaker 2>actually increase the risk of cycle, especially in a lag

0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:46.920
<v Speaker 2>of larger bunch. I've never had issues with cars on

0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:49.080
<v Speaker 2>that road, how I've had problems on other roads. In general.

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:52.040
<v Speaker 2>Perth drives are okay with cyclists, but there's a minority

0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:54.640
<v Speaker 2>that don't like us. Yeah, thanks, Ala, I just know

0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 2>when we cover as a topic here over the years

0:43:57.520 --> 0:44:01.120
<v Speaker 2>on six PR a lot of sort of only half

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 2>joking when I say six hours have been persecuting cyclists

0:44:03.560 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 2>for about thirty years. I'm only sort of half joking

0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:10.480
<v Speaker 2>about that. Quite a few of our announcers and quite

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:15.120
<v Speaker 2>a few of the listeners don't like cyclists. So yeah,

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 2>we'll discuss that topic just a moment. Wonder what City

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:21.440
<v Speaker 2>of Melville going to do with Burke Drive. Just to

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:24.200
<v Speaker 2>update you, you know, we've been covering the story since

0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:26.840
<v Speaker 2>February of this year about the set of flats, the

0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:30.160
<v Speaker 2>set of units, the social housing units on Ninth Avenue

0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:33.279
<v Speaker 2>in Inglewood. We've talked to the mayor, We've talked to

0:44:33.280 --> 0:44:36.959
<v Speaker 2>people who've lived there. We've talked to the police, We've

0:44:36.960 --> 0:44:38.960
<v Speaker 2>talked to all manner of groups. We've covered the story

0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:43.480
<v Speaker 2>many many times now. We've been asking politely for John Kerrey,

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:46.359
<v Speaker 2>the Housing Minister, to come on and talk to us

0:44:46.680 --> 0:44:51.480
<v Speaker 2>about the Inglewood Flats. Haven't had any joy so far.

0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:54.160
<v Speaker 2>But I can tell you that the representatives from the

0:44:54.280 --> 0:44:57.120
<v Speaker 2>Inglewood Flats will be meeting with John Kerry on Tuesday

0:44:57.160 --> 0:45:00.400
<v Speaker 2>next week. So when we spoke last to them, We

0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:02.360
<v Speaker 2>spoke to Melissa and she said, oh, we haven't heard.

0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:05.279
<v Speaker 2>You know, no one's meeting with us, but that is

0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:09.920
<v Speaker 2>now happening, and that is now happening next Tuesday. So

0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:13.040
<v Speaker 2>that's that's a good thing, isn't it. There's all sorts

0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:16.359
<v Speaker 2>of conflicting reports floating around that communities haven't had any

0:45:16.360 --> 0:45:19.960
<v Speaker 2>complaints about the residents there, but that's not true. There's

0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:22.600
<v Speaker 2>been at least thirteen that we know of, So mister

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:25.040
<v Speaker 2>Kerrey is going to attempt to try and sort that

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:28.479
<v Speaker 2>out because it's an absolute running saw, this one. It's

0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 2>been since at least February that we know of it.

0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 2>We still have a situation. We have situations in Bentley,

0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:36.800
<v Speaker 2>we have situations in Bayswater, we have situations in the

0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:40.240
<v Speaker 2>city of Perth that are very similar. Highly anti social behavior,

0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:44.720
<v Speaker 2>illegal behavior police, difficult for police to do anything different,

0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:46.840
<v Speaker 2>difficult for rangers to do anything different, for Shires to

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:50.319
<v Speaker 2>do anything, and so it goes. And this is a

0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:57.600
<v Speaker 2>minority of social community, apartment communities, social housing residents that

0:45:57.680 --> 0:46:02.640
<v Speaker 2>are behaving incredibly and in an incredibly anti social way.

0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:05.799
<v Speaker 2>So we've been told reps from the England Flats will

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:09.680
<v Speaker 2>meet with John Carey on Tuesday next week. Thanks for listening.

0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:11.560
<v Speaker 2>In Henry's phone in cand I Henry.

0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:16.840
<v Speaker 23>Agda Siahe going like, cyclists, Look, whether you like it

0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:19.680
<v Speaker 23>or don't, the fact of the matter is that we've

0:46:19.719 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 23>just got to get over it. I mean, I've just

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:22.960
<v Speaker 23>spent my wife and I just spent ten weeks in

0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 23>Europe Scandinavia or Scandinavia, Central and Eastern Europe, visited ten countries,

0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:33.880
<v Speaker 23>cyclists everywhere, and people just get over it. We've got

0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:36.520
<v Speaker 23>speed limits over there of thirty and forty and fifty

0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:40.200
<v Speaker 23>kilometers an hour in built up areas, and people just

0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 23>respect it. The level of respect on the roads we

0:46:44.239 --> 0:46:47.879
<v Speaker 23>noticed while we were away was incredible in comparison to here,

0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:51.960
<v Speaker 23>whether it's Eastern States or Western Australia. I think we

0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:53.239
<v Speaker 23>just got to catch up with the rest of the

0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:55.680
<v Speaker 23>world and become a little bit more tolerant.

0:46:56.640 --> 0:47:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah so cultural, hey, Henry think one hundred percent.

0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:02.480
<v Speaker 23>One hundred percent. Now, Having said that, a lot of

0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:06.200
<v Speaker 23>those Scandinavian countries have and you know, Germany et cetera,

0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:09.000
<v Speaker 23>have got good infrastructure to allow for bikes. But when

0:47:09.040 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 23>you go to the UK Island, Scotland and Wales, the

0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:16.080
<v Speaker 23>roads are really really narrow, and yet again the cyclist

0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:18.439
<v Speaker 23>on the roads and people just you know, just wait

0:47:18.880 --> 0:47:21.960
<v Speaker 23>and safely maneuver around them.

0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:23.600
<v Speaker 4>It's just the way it is.

0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:29.719
<v Speaker 2>Are they exercised cyclists or are they both bakery commuters?

0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:34.960
<v Speaker 23>Yeah, Ina, you know, in Norway, Denmark, Germany bakery commuters.

0:47:35.000 --> 0:47:37.040
<v Speaker 23>But when you go to the UK, particularly when you're

0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:38.960
<v Speaker 23>when you're sort of out of the out of the

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:42.000
<v Speaker 23>city area, there's you know, there's serious cyclists who are

0:47:42.000 --> 0:47:44.359
<v Speaker 23>doing it for the leisure, and you know you've got

0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:47.200
<v Speaker 23>big tour buses et cetera, and trucks and people just

0:47:47.560 --> 0:47:49.520
<v Speaker 23>people just you know, get on with it.

0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:51.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, thanks Henry Choose mate. Thanks you call

0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:56.880
<v Speaker 2>thirteen past ten the city of Melbourne looking to adjust

0:47:56.880 --> 0:47:59.400
<v Speaker 2>bird drive and it's probably one of the more prominent

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:02.759
<v Speaker 2>roads in Perth for doing a lap around the river.

0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:09.960
<v Speaker 24>How's it going, Simon, thanks for taking my call. I've

0:48:10.960 --> 0:48:13.520
<v Speaker 24>I used to be a pretty avid cyclist that I've

0:48:13.560 --> 0:48:16.440
<v Speaker 24>lost the passion over the last sort of eight eight months.

0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:21.160
<v Speaker 24>That previous caller. The difference between there and here is

0:48:21.200 --> 0:48:24.839
<v Speaker 24>what I call a traditional normalized cycling culture. We just

0:48:24.880 --> 0:48:27.480
<v Speaker 24>don't have one and there's a whole other argument that

0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:30.400
<v Speaker 24>I won't go into about that, But in regards to

0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:33.680
<v Speaker 24>Burke Drive, the problem with what the council wants to

0:48:33.719 --> 0:48:37.480
<v Speaker 24>do is that what they want to do is designed

0:48:37.520 --> 0:48:41.080
<v Speaker 24>and implemented by people that have got no idea about cycling.

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:43.320
<v Speaker 24>They just think, yeah, we have got an idea and

0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:45.359
<v Speaker 24>we're going to make it safer. But it doesn't make

0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:47.080
<v Speaker 24>it any safer, makes it worse.

0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:48.960
<v Speaker 2>So what do you what do you think they want

0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:49.120
<v Speaker 2>to do?

0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:49.439
<v Speaker 12>Les?

0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:50.080
<v Speaker 2>What are you hearing?

0:48:51.520 --> 0:48:57.280
<v Speaker 24>Well, the speed humps and the traffic calming devices, that's

0:48:57.320 --> 0:48:59.719
<v Speaker 24>for cars. It's going to slow the cars down, but

0:48:59.760 --> 0:49:02.080
<v Speaker 24>it's obstacles for cyclists.

0:49:02.560 --> 0:49:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeap, all right mate, well mate, it's we will chat

0:49:05.719 --> 0:49:07.680
<v Speaker 2>to the council. There's it's two point seven k's of

0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:09.520
<v Speaker 2>road and I reckon it sounds like you've ridden on

0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:13.000
<v Speaker 2>it many times, and we'll find out what the plan

0:49:13.120 --> 0:49:16.160
<v Speaker 2>is where they put speed humps in and traffic caarming

0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:18.840
<v Speaker 2>but cyclists can still get through it. It remains to

0:49:18.880 --> 0:49:21.520
<v Speaker 2>be seen. But it's probably one of the busiest stretches,

0:49:21.520 --> 0:49:21.880
<v Speaker 2>isn't it.

0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:26.719
<v Speaker 24>Well it is, that's right, and especially when you get

0:49:26.719 --> 0:49:30.240
<v Speaker 24>the big palatons there and you mix that with impatient drivers,

0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:32.520
<v Speaker 24>which are a dime a dozen on our roads, it

0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:36.319
<v Speaker 24>is a recipe for disaster. So I get it. The

0:49:36.360 --> 0:49:39.640
<v Speaker 24>idea of it is good to make it safe for cycling,

0:49:40.040 --> 0:49:43.280
<v Speaker 24>but people who actually ride bikes and know what safe

0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:46.960
<v Speaker 24>cycling is all about need to have input Otherwise you

0:49:47.080 --> 0:49:48.640
<v Speaker 24>end up with something that makes it worse.

0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:50.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, makes it more unsafe, all right, Liz, thank you, mate.

0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:53.040
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that. We'll find out more from the council shortly.

0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:56.440
<v Speaker 2>And it's a generic question as well. It could be

0:49:56.440 --> 0:50:01.600
<v Speaker 2>happening in your suburb. We my thoughts. If you get

0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:04.160
<v Speaker 2>ten people riding together, one of them would we will

0:50:04.200 --> 0:50:07.400
<v Speaker 2>be a terrible rider, doesn't look at cars, doesn't think

0:50:07.400 --> 0:50:11.280
<v Speaker 2>about cars, other riders, pedestrians, does the wrong thing. There

0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:17.400
<v Speaker 2>are more expresses a percentage. There are probably higher percentage

0:50:17.400 --> 0:50:20.680
<v Speaker 2>of bad cyclists as compared to bad drivers. And I

0:50:20.719 --> 0:50:23.680
<v Speaker 2>know I do both. Most cyclists are pretty good, but

0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:26.560
<v Speaker 2>there is one or two will always, you know, ride

0:50:26.560 --> 0:50:29.200
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the road or carry on. There

0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:32.360
<v Speaker 2>are less there are less as a percentage drivers. If

0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:34.480
<v Speaker 2>that makes sense. I hope that makes sense. Sort of

0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:36.160
<v Speaker 2>sounded right, and I was thinking it didn't sound that

0:50:36.160 --> 0:50:39.360
<v Speaker 2>good when I said it. Good, Ay, Mark, good A.

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<v Speaker 18>Weird one for you. I have an aneurysm at the moment,

0:50:44.080 --> 0:50:46.040
<v Speaker 18>so I was told not to get my blood pressure

0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:48.239
<v Speaker 18>up to my operation. So I thought I'd do some

0:50:48.600 --> 0:50:52.000
<v Speaker 18>uber each deliveries and I had an order for three

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:56.200
<v Speaker 18>bottles of milk today for Australia Post Malaga. I went

0:50:56.280 --> 0:51:00.439
<v Speaker 18>there and I was held against my will for over

0:51:00.520 --> 0:51:03.040
<v Speaker 18>ten minutes because the guy thought that I must be

0:51:03.560 --> 0:51:07.800
<v Speaker 18>a terrorist because I was delivering milk to Australia Post.

0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:11.799
<v Speaker 18>He eventually let me go once I started filming, and

0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:14.400
<v Speaker 18>I mentioned on the video, which I thank you guys

0:51:14.440 --> 0:51:16.719
<v Speaker 18>as well, that he was holding me against my will

0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:18.680
<v Speaker 18>and he confirmed that. He said yes, and he nodded

0:51:18.719 --> 0:51:21.440
<v Speaker 18>his head. I've just had Australia Post ring me and

0:51:21.440 --> 0:51:23.400
<v Speaker 18>they were like, no, this is how we train our stuff.

0:51:23.440 --> 0:51:25.560
<v Speaker 18>You had no right to be delivering milk to us,

0:51:26.480 --> 0:51:29.000
<v Speaker 18>so you could picture my blood pressures through the roof.

0:51:29.000 --> 0:51:31.400
<v Speaker 18>And I'm not feeling too good, but this is this

0:51:31.560 --> 0:51:33.920
<v Speaker 18>is crazy stuff and nobody's accountable.

0:51:34.040 --> 0:51:36.319
<v Speaker 2>So did you When you deliver the milk, you leave

0:51:36.360 --> 0:51:39.000
<v Speaker 2>it out with the milk gets delivered here, gets left

0:51:39.360 --> 0:51:41.319
<v Speaker 2>down in the foyer. Where did you leave the milk

0:51:41.680 --> 0:51:42.440
<v Speaker 2>or did you try to?

0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:46.080
<v Speaker 18>I had instructions to take it in and the map

0:51:46.200 --> 0:51:48.400
<v Speaker 18>was pinned, and I showed him the app and I

0:51:48.480 --> 0:51:51.320
<v Speaker 18>showed him the person and their contact number to so

0:51:51.560 --> 0:51:53.640
<v Speaker 18>it was a staff member, and showed them where I

0:51:53.680 --> 0:51:55.520
<v Speaker 18>was supposed to go in their instructions. So I showed

0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:58.120
<v Speaker 18>them all of that. He wasn't interested. So I ended

0:51:58.160 --> 0:51:59.919
<v Speaker 18>up giving him the milk. I said, well, here, look,

0:52:00.080 --> 0:52:02.160
<v Speaker 18>you can have the milk and do but whatever you like,

0:52:02.280 --> 0:52:05.279
<v Speaker 18>I'll just go. And he wouldn't let me go. And

0:52:05.960 --> 0:52:08.600
<v Speaker 18>then he put the door down and closed the door

0:52:08.680 --> 0:52:11.440
<v Speaker 18>and tall. It wasn't until I started telling me that

0:52:11.480 --> 0:52:12.000
<v Speaker 18>he let me go?

0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Is he and was he obviously an Australia Post employee.

0:52:16.760 --> 0:52:20.319
<v Speaker 18>Yes, supervisor. I got to think of his name tag

0:52:20.360 --> 0:52:22.480
<v Speaker 18>and that on the video and that as well. And

0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:24.439
<v Speaker 18>as I say in the video, I make it very clear.

0:52:24.520 --> 0:52:26.480
<v Speaker 18>I said, this man is holding me against my will

0:52:26.520 --> 0:52:28.400
<v Speaker 18>and not letting me go. He nods his head, he

0:52:28.440 --> 0:52:33.480
<v Speaker 18>says yes, And you know, we kept going until he

0:52:33.600 --> 0:52:36.000
<v Speaker 18>finally let me go. But this is crazy delivering milk

0:52:36.040 --> 0:52:39.440
<v Speaker 18>and I've got health concerns at the moment, and you know,

0:52:39.680 --> 0:52:40.760
<v Speaker 18>I'm just so rattled.

0:52:41.000 --> 0:52:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you sound rad Mark. I'll ask this as delicately

0:52:44.440 --> 0:52:46.000
<v Speaker 2>as I can wire you behaving yourself.

0:52:47.719 --> 0:52:50.080
<v Speaker 18>Absolutely, I was just delivering milk. I mean, at the

0:52:50.200 --> 0:52:52.440
<v Speaker 18>end of the video you see I just say to him,

0:52:52.680 --> 0:52:56.000
<v Speaker 18>you know, for fs, take let me go. But that

0:52:56.160 --> 0:52:58.799
<v Speaker 18>was it. I mean, when you're delivering uber, it's as

0:52:58.840 --> 0:53:01.440
<v Speaker 18>simple as rocking up to as handing him, thanking them

0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:04.960
<v Speaker 18>and off you go. Even when he didn't want that

0:53:05.080 --> 0:53:07.120
<v Speaker 18>to happen. And I gave him the order, even though

0:53:07.160 --> 0:53:09.600
<v Speaker 18>he wasn't the one with the order, he was. He

0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:11.719
<v Speaker 18>gladly took the order and I said, okay, well I'll

0:53:11.760 --> 0:53:13.480
<v Speaker 18>just go now, and he was like, no, You're not

0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:14.200
<v Speaker 18>going anywhere.

0:53:14.400 --> 0:53:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Bizarre and Australia Post have doubled down and said, no,

0:53:16.800 --> 0:53:19.240
<v Speaker 2>this is this is the right process.

0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:21.040
<v Speaker 18>That's how we train them. You had no right to

0:53:21.080 --> 0:53:23.279
<v Speaker 18>come on Australia Post property and you had no right

0:53:23.320 --> 0:53:24.400
<v Speaker 18>to be delivering milk to us.

0:53:24.440 --> 0:53:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Have you delivered milk to them before?

0:53:26.840 --> 0:53:27.120
<v Speaker 16>No?

0:53:27.360 --> 0:53:29.359
<v Speaker 18>No, they're all random jobs, you know. And this one

0:53:29.400 --> 0:53:31.040
<v Speaker 18>was out in Malaga and I live on the other

0:53:31.080 --> 0:53:33.319
<v Speaker 18>side of the city, so it was a good paid job.

0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:35.560
<v Speaker 18>This delivery. It was a long delivery one. It was

0:53:35.600 --> 0:53:37.719
<v Speaker 18>like oh yeah, and I didn't even think about it,

0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:39.759
<v Speaker 18>just wropped up there with the order and as I say,

0:53:39.800 --> 0:53:42.080
<v Speaker 18>I showed him the app, I showed him my idea,

0:53:42.120 --> 0:53:44.600
<v Speaker 18>I showed him everything, and yeah, and I was just

0:53:44.640 --> 0:53:46.279
<v Speaker 18>held against my will and I kept stating to him,

0:53:46.360 --> 0:53:48.360
<v Speaker 18>let me go, let me go, and he just kept refusing.

0:53:48.400 --> 0:53:50.080
<v Speaker 2>All right, Well in the brake mead, I'll have a

0:53:50.080 --> 0:53:52.640
<v Speaker 2>look at the video that he's very bizarre. I hope

0:53:52.640 --> 0:53:53.120
<v Speaker 2>you're okay.

0:53:54.239 --> 0:53:57.960
<v Speaker 18>Yeah, thanks, yeah, yeah, I took some medicine and.

0:53:57.880 --> 0:54:00.839
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully yeah yeah, yeah, no Joe for a walk or something. Mate,

0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:04.160
<v Speaker 2>before it starts rating. Thanks Mark, we'll take pause. It's

0:54:04.160 --> 0:54:07.120
<v Speaker 2>twenty minutes past ten. That's bizarre, isn't it. We will

0:54:07.120 --> 0:54:09.120
<v Speaker 2>come back. Is it over for the woodside protests? As

0:54:09.239 --> 0:54:11.040
<v Speaker 2>yeses A nine and the nose of forty two. Thanks

0:54:11.040 --> 0:54:16.360
<v Speaker 2>for responding in great number. We'll take a break. Brian's semessus,

0:54:16.360 --> 0:54:18.600
<v Speaker 2>gooda Brian, thank you mate. The cyclists say here and

0:54:18.640 --> 0:54:20.319
<v Speaker 2>happy to have them, but they should be fined if

0:54:20.400 --> 0:54:23.520
<v Speaker 2>riding on the roads alongside a cycleway, which cost taxpayers

0:54:23.520 --> 0:54:25.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of well spent dollars, Brian, I reckon that

0:54:26.000 --> 0:54:28.480
<v Speaker 2>might be an infringement. I think you might be right.

0:54:28.520 --> 0:54:30.560
<v Speaker 2>If there's a cycle way there, if you'll use path

0:54:31.080 --> 0:54:35.640
<v Speaker 2>whatever they're called, I think you are supposed to use them. Thanks,

0:54:36.080 --> 0:54:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Chris says gooda Simon, Hello, Chris. Traffic calming devices like

0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:42.760
<v Speaker 2>the zigzag style chicanes are the most dangerous thing for cyclists.

0:54:42.760 --> 0:54:47.000
<v Speaker 2>The amount of times impatient knobs with a Q over

0:54:47.080 --> 0:54:48.640
<v Speaker 2>take through them is out of this world. That's want

0:54:48.680 --> 0:54:50.400
<v Speaker 2>to feel in the most amount of danger on my

0:54:50.440 --> 0:54:52.080
<v Speaker 2>bike and do quite a few k's a week. It's

0:54:52.120 --> 0:54:54.520
<v Speaker 2>a cultural thing in this country. Drivers just wide up

0:54:54.520 --> 0:54:56.680
<v Speaker 2>to hate people on bikes. Cheers Mate, enjoying the show.

0:54:57.360 --> 0:55:00.120
<v Speaker 2>Cheers Chris, as I say, I reckon one in ten

0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:02.680
<v Speaker 2>cyclists are a bit ordinary, and probably one on one hundred

0:55:02.680 --> 0:55:06.400
<v Speaker 2>motorists are a bit ordinary, and that data comes to

0:55:06.440 --> 0:55:11.000
<v Speaker 2>you with no scientific basis whatsoever. One level three eight

0:55:11.080 --> 0:55:13.120
<v Speaker 2>eighty two is it over for the Woodside protest has

0:55:13.120 --> 0:55:15.000
<v Speaker 2>given what we heard yesterday. The yes is are nine

0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:18.480
<v Speaker 2>and the nose are forty two. Joining me now is

0:55:18.520 --> 0:55:21.799
<v Speaker 2>Anne Barclay from our production area and has a couple

0:55:21.800 --> 0:55:23.520
<v Speaker 2>of stories about East scooters.

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<v Speaker 10>Hi, I am Hi Bowie. Yeah, a bit of a

0:55:25.400 --> 0:55:29.280
<v Speaker 10>tragic development with this story. Listeners, if they've been tuning

0:55:29.280 --> 0:55:32.120
<v Speaker 10>into Philippo Mama's news bulletins this morning, they would have

0:55:32.160 --> 0:55:36.680
<v Speaker 10>heard about this crash that happened around ten thirty last night.

0:55:37.000 --> 0:55:39.839
<v Speaker 10>An e scooter and a white Volvo truck collided at

0:55:39.840 --> 0:55:44.480
<v Speaker 10>the intersection of Canning Highway and Sterling Highway in East Frio,

0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:48.839
<v Speaker 10>and police have just confirmed that. Unfortunately, the e scooter writer,

0:55:48.960 --> 0:55:51.399
<v Speaker 10>who was a thirty one year old man, did die

0:55:51.480 --> 0:55:55.319
<v Speaker 10>at the scene, so he received yeah, critical injuries. The

0:55:55.360 --> 0:55:58.839
<v Speaker 10>twenty six year old mail truck driver was uninjured and

0:55:58.880 --> 0:56:02.200
<v Speaker 10>he's speaking to at the moment. No charges have been

0:56:02.280 --> 0:56:03.160
<v Speaker 10>laid at this stage.

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<v Speaker 2>You said ten thirty last night.

0:56:04.719 --> 0:56:06.920
<v Speaker 25>Yeah, ten thirty last night. Oh yeah.

0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:12.160
<v Speaker 2>So there's a knowing that little intersection, and there's cycle

0:56:12.200 --> 0:56:14.960
<v Speaker 2>ways either side of the intersection which you can cross over,

0:56:15.000 --> 0:56:17.319
<v Speaker 2>and presumance with the bridges so you can cross over

0:56:17.600 --> 0:56:19.520
<v Speaker 2>either way there. So that's terrible.

0:56:19.880 --> 0:56:21.640
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, and obviously it would have been dark, you know,

0:56:21.760 --> 0:56:24.680
<v Speaker 10>ten thirty at night. I don't know e scooters. I

0:56:24.680 --> 0:56:26.879
<v Speaker 10>don't think they're fitted with lights. Maybe some of them

0:56:26.880 --> 0:56:28.440
<v Speaker 10>are it's not that some of the topic I know

0:56:28.520 --> 0:56:30.960
<v Speaker 10>a lot about, but there has unfortunately been a spate

0:56:31.120 --> 0:56:34.920
<v Speaker 10>of eescooter really serious crashes and now this death Bowie.

0:56:35.040 --> 0:56:38.560
<v Speaker 10>So over the weekend an E scooter writer suffered critical

0:56:38.560 --> 0:56:41.560
<v Speaker 10>injuries after he collided with a car in Middle Swan

0:56:42.040 --> 0:56:45.840
<v Speaker 10>and that happened really early Sunday morning, I think shortly

0:56:45.880 --> 0:56:48.920
<v Speaker 10>after midnight is when that happened. And that was actually

0:56:49.239 --> 0:56:51.920
<v Speaker 10>the subject of now hit and run charges. So police

0:56:51.920 --> 0:56:54.759
<v Speaker 10>have charged a twenty four year old man, alleging that

0:56:54.840 --> 0:56:58.000
<v Speaker 10>they failed to remain at the scene, he didn't stop

0:56:58.000 --> 0:56:59.960
<v Speaker 10>and help, and so now he's been charged with causing

0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:03.160
<v Speaker 10>grievous bodily harm. He's due to front court next month.

0:57:03.200 --> 0:57:06.319
<v Speaker 10>The man, the accused, man from Kelmscott. So, yeah, a

0:57:06.400 --> 0:57:10.000
<v Speaker 10>few really serious crashes with late at night scooters.

0:57:10.120 --> 0:57:12.839
<v Speaker 25>Yeah, in the late at night at intersections.

0:57:12.360 --> 0:57:15.040
<v Speaker 2>They're fully dark. Yeah, okay, alright, thank you Anne, And

0:57:15.120 --> 0:57:18.200
<v Speaker 2>we'll ask your listeners. Is it a requirement to have

0:57:18.320 --> 0:57:19.960
<v Speaker 2>lights on a scooter if you're writing at night? I

0:57:20.000 --> 0:57:20.640
<v Speaker 2>would imagine it.

0:57:20.600 --> 0:57:23.200
<v Speaker 10>Would be, yeah, because whenever I've seen EA scooter writers

0:57:23.200 --> 0:57:25.320
<v Speaker 10>at night, I think they've just been you know, going

0:57:25.360 --> 0:57:27.320
<v Speaker 10>slow and on the footpaths on residential roads.

0:57:27.320 --> 0:57:28.560
<v Speaker 25>But I've never really had to.

0:57:28.880 --> 0:57:30.600
<v Speaker 10>I mean, unless I'm just not seeing them, you know,

0:57:30.640 --> 0:57:32.800
<v Speaker 10>whether I have not seen them at major intersections when

0:57:32.800 --> 0:57:34.920
<v Speaker 10>I'm driving. But it's a scary thought because they're so

0:57:35.000 --> 0:57:37.760
<v Speaker 10>quiet too, right, you don't necessarily hear them or see

0:57:37.760 --> 0:57:38.160
<v Speaker 10>them coming.

0:57:38.280 --> 0:57:40.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And if you're coming off a cycle away or

0:57:40.800 --> 0:57:43.360
<v Speaker 2>of a path, or even they're not on the road,

0:57:43.400 --> 0:57:48.400
<v Speaker 2>are they? Thank you? Anne? Thanks two chilling stories there.

0:57:48.400 --> 0:57:50.640
<v Speaker 2>One double three eight eighty two is the phone number?

0:57:50.720 --> 0:57:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Are you you know? And I ask, in the absence

0:57:53.600 --> 0:57:55.400
<v Speaker 2>of knowing, are you required to have a by a

0:57:55.480 --> 0:57:57.520
<v Speaker 2>light on your scooter if you're traveling at night? I

0:57:57.560 --> 0:58:00.320
<v Speaker 2>would imagine you would be. And I don't know if

0:58:00.320 --> 0:58:04.520
<v Speaker 2>you buy a thousand dollars scooter from jbhi Fi or

0:58:04.520 --> 0:58:07.400
<v Speaker 2>wonder Lust, if you do, if they necessarily fix with

0:58:07.520 --> 0:58:10.919
<v Speaker 2>front and rear lights permanently, I'm not sure. Get ay, Sue,

0:58:10.960 --> 0:58:11.439
<v Speaker 2>how you going?

0:58:13.280 --> 0:58:13.440
<v Speaker 26>Hi?

0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:14.040
<v Speaker 27>Simon?

0:58:14.640 --> 0:58:16.800
<v Speaker 2>Hi, I'm well, Sue, Thank you?

0:58:16.920 --> 0:58:18.080
<v Speaker 28>Yeah? Good look.

0:58:18.120 --> 0:58:22.960
<v Speaker 27>I feel very very strongly about the cycling you around

0:58:23.040 --> 0:58:27.160
<v Speaker 27>Perth because we are faced with so many challenges already,

0:58:27.320 --> 0:58:31.720
<v Speaker 27>with drivers that are very impatient, and I just feel

0:58:31.720 --> 0:58:34.800
<v Speaker 27>like putting speed bumps in is just a prohibitive And

0:58:34.880 --> 0:58:39.680
<v Speaker 27>to me, it's the whole government, the state government, local government.

0:58:39.760 --> 0:58:42.520
<v Speaker 27>They are trying to get cyclists off the road. They're

0:58:42.600 --> 0:58:47.280
<v Speaker 27>investing a lot of money into infrastructure, into mountain bike trails,

0:58:47.360 --> 0:58:51.600
<v Speaker 27>gravel bike racing has become massive. More and more road

0:58:51.680 --> 0:58:53.800
<v Speaker 27>races are being canceled. I mean, we've only got a

0:58:53.840 --> 0:58:55.919
<v Speaker 27>look at the College of donny Brook. It's for last year.

0:58:56.000 --> 0:59:00.160
<v Speaker 27>This year one hundred years of history. Tom Lowry, I

0:59:00.280 --> 0:59:02.800
<v Speaker 27>just raced that the eighty fourth I think it was

0:59:03.120 --> 0:59:07.800
<v Speaker 27>last year. Traffic management has just become so expensive and prohibitive.

0:59:08.360 --> 0:59:12.080
<v Speaker 27>Volunteers aren't allowed to help, so these have been canceled.

0:59:12.600 --> 0:59:16.960
<v Speaker 27>The Kelwallely Road Race was on this weekend, canceled because

0:59:17.000 --> 0:59:20.040
<v Speaker 27>of traffic management. And I just feel like it's just

0:59:20.120 --> 0:59:21.959
<v Speaker 27>a big plan to get us off the road.

0:59:22.400 --> 0:59:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're probably right, so sign to change, haven't they.

0:59:24.800 --> 0:59:28.120
<v Speaker 2>So when I used to do triathons in the eighties

0:59:28.120 --> 0:59:32.200
<v Speaker 2>and nineties to west to ride down the coast and

0:59:32.320 --> 0:59:35.480
<v Speaker 2>up Bolt of Rebold Hill and around City Beach and

0:59:35.520 --> 0:59:38.960
<v Speaker 2>around the city, but not anymore, and just.

0:59:38.960 --> 0:59:41.920
<v Speaker 27>Even Rebold Hill, like I was training there Tuesday, we

0:59:41.920 --> 0:59:45.520
<v Speaker 27>were doing repeats of Oceanic Now I can remember as

0:59:45.560 --> 0:59:48.360
<v Speaker 27>little as five years ago at five point thirty in

0:59:48.400 --> 0:59:50.959
<v Speaker 27>the morning, you would not see a car because we'd

0:59:51.000 --> 0:59:53.600
<v Speaker 27>be finished by seven. Still, now we're doing the same thing.

0:59:55.160 --> 0:59:59.040
<v Speaker 27>You would see fifty cars every sort of twenty minutes

1:00:00.080 --> 1:00:03.000
<v Speaker 27>being through. It's crazy how much things have changed.

1:00:03.160 --> 1:00:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no doubt. But thank thank you for your texting,

1:00:06.840 --> 1:00:14.440
<v Speaker 2>your phone call, Sue, thank you cheers who's gone? Yeah, yeah,

1:00:14.400 --> 1:00:17.400
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to hear from you today. So Burt drive

1:00:17.480 --> 1:00:21.520
<v Speaker 2>in added all the council is looking to change change

1:00:21.520 --> 1:00:23.720
<v Speaker 2>that two point seven k bit of road. It's used

1:00:23.720 --> 1:00:27.680
<v Speaker 2>extensively by cyclists in riding solo, in pairs, in threes,

1:00:27.720 --> 1:00:30.800
<v Speaker 2>and in big packs in the pelotons. We'll try and

1:00:30.840 --> 1:00:33.439
<v Speaker 2>find out a little bit, a little bit more as

1:00:33.440 --> 1:00:36.800
<v Speaker 2>it goes on the lone voice in the Wilderness on

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<v Speaker 2>this station. When it comes to being pro cycling, get

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<v Speaker 2>a Kevin.

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<v Speaker 14>Good timon how you're going, good mate, Simon. I just

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<v Speaker 14>want I just wanted to relate my story about my

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<v Speaker 14>encounter with an eat cyclist last week. I was coming

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<v Speaker 14>back from Ocean Reef on Ocean Reef Road and and

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<v Speaker 14>It was late at night, probably about nine o'clock at night,

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<v Speaker 14>and I almost hit this scooter guy and I didn't

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<v Speaker 14>see him until I was past him. He was he

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<v Speaker 14>was totally in black and I didn't see him at

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<v Speaker 14>all on the road.

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<v Speaker 2>What was he doing? Right, So you're traveling down the road.

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<v Speaker 2>Where was he going across? Badly?

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<v Speaker 14>Was he?

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<v Speaker 2>Was he on the on the road?

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<v Speaker 14>Now he's on the side of the road, not not

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<v Speaker 14>on the shoulder, but just in my almost in my

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<v Speaker 14>lane but not quite, but completely oblivious to the danger

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<v Speaker 14>that he'd put himself in.

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<v Speaker 2>No lights.

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<v Speaker 14>He was no lights, completely in black. I didn't see

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<v Speaker 14>him until I was past him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, Yeah, Kevin, you know, I imagine if

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<v Speaker 2>you did him, Imagine how bad you'd feel forever if

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<v Speaker 2>you did hurt him.

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<v Speaker 14>Yes, exactly. I felt bad anyway, more out of shop

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<v Speaker 14>than anything that I didn't see him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, thanks mate, Thanks for your CAULP. Appreciate that

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<v Speaker 2>this one here from Tipsy. My scooter has built in lights,

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<v Speaker 2>but not really sufficient, especially late at night. Thanks Tipsy.

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<v Speaker 2>Stopped playing on the roads is marked from Marrett River.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think Mark's a pro cyclist, Jim says, roads

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<v Speaker 2>are for commercial purposes to get from A to b,

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<v Speaker 2>not for exercise, says you know, Jim, they're not, mate,

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<v Speaker 2>You're allowed a light on the road, mate, they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>So so when I drive to work, Jim or dry,

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<v Speaker 2>I drive down the beach to have a walk. That's

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<v Speaker 2>that's for commercial purposes, that may know, Jim. So I

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<v Speaker 2>just allowed to ride on the road, mate, that's the rule.

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<v Speaker 2>That's and and cycling keeps you know, keeps people healthy

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<v Speaker 2>and doesn't clog up the health system. Anyway, I could

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<v Speaker 2>go on. We'll come back now if you'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>speak to Nick, you' john on one me up, Jim,

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<v Speaker 2>it worked. Nick maru Chack's owing to join us from

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<v Speaker 2>m k I legal in just a moment. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you'd like to phone in if you have a law question,

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<v Speaker 2>please call us one double three eight touty two. Nick

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<v Speaker 2>Ruchak joins us from MKI Illegal on this Thursday morning day. Nick,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you good?

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<v Speaker 26>A bowie?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm great. That's good now. That's a Tommy Hill figure

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<v Speaker 2>jumbo and I like that. And one of our listeners,

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff phone In, said that he thought that bloke's name

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<v Speaker 2>was Tommy Hilfin garden.

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<v Speaker 29>There's a funny story. I'm wearing this jump and my

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<v Speaker 29>business partner asked me to bring in a green jumper

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<v Speaker 29>because he's going to dress up as Ned Flanders on

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<v Speaker 29>the weekend of a dress up party. So that's why

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<v Speaker 29>we're today to get to him.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like a hell of a party. One double

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<v Speaker 2>three A Dody two. If you'd like to speak to

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Ruchac today, you can. Simon and Danny will get

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<v Speaker 2>to you guys in just a moment. Ring in Wonduble

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<v Speaker 2>three A Daddy two is the phone number. Nick here

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<v Speaker 2>to take your legal questions. Simon, Good morning, How are you.

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<v Speaker 14>Simon?

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<v Speaker 20>Nick?

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<v Speaker 2>Hello?

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<v Speaker 30>Mate?

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<v Speaker 31>Yeah, I'm just a question about testing a will. I

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<v Speaker 31>lost my father and sister six years ago. I lost

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<v Speaker 31>my mother a couple of months ago, but no other siblings,

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<v Speaker 31>so it's just me alone. Just wondering my sister's late

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<v Speaker 31>sister's children. They have been given a substantial amount of

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<v Speaker 31>money from my mother in the will. They're not happy

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<v Speaker 31>with what they've got, so they are seeing they're entitled

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<v Speaker 31>to half, which is what my sister and I probably

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<v Speaker 31>would have been getting. Just wondering if they have any

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<v Speaker 31>right to contest the will.

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<v Speaker 29>Okay, So when it comes to contesting a will, there's

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<v Speaker 29>only a class of people who can do it. So

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<v Speaker 29>I just need to establish the relationship between the deceased

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<v Speaker 29>person and the person who wants to challenge the will.

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<v Speaker 29>So the decease, the relationship is one of grandparent and grandchild, right,

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<v Speaker 29>the decease grandparent died and the grandchildren are looking at

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<v Speaker 29>challenging the will. Is that right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 29>Okay, So when it comes to that, grandchildren are in

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<v Speaker 29>the class of categories that can challenge grandparents will, but

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<v Speaker 29>they can only challenge it in specific circumstances, and they

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<v Speaker 29>are if they are being maintained by the deceased immediately

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<v Speaker 29>before death. So think of a situation where the grandchild

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<v Speaker 29>is living with a grandparent and receiving money or school

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<v Speaker 29>fees and stuff like that, or if the grandchild's parents died. Right,

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<v Speaker 29>So they're the main situations that a grandchild can challenge

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<v Speaker 29>grandparents will. If they don't meet that criteria, then they

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<v Speaker 29>can't challenge. So do the grandchildren meet that criteria.

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<v Speaker 31>Well, yeah, because their mother died six years ago my sister, then.

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<v Speaker 29>Yeah, so that would be something that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 29>So then because they were stepping the shoes of your

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<v Speaker 29>of your sister. And so this is the situation, right,

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<v Speaker 29>they don't automatically get anything from the will that they

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<v Speaker 29>have to that the court will look at whether the

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<v Speaker 29>will should be adjusted, so whether they should be given

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<v Speaker 29>something from the will, and they look at a whole

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<v Speaker 29>bunch of factors regarding that. They have to launch a

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<v Speaker 29>claim within six months of probate being issued, so at

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<v Speaker 29>this stage is probably good to get some legal advice

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<v Speaker 29>about that. So you'll go and get probate first. Then

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<v Speaker 29>that six month windows ticks in. If they don't do

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<v Speaker 29>anything within the six months, then the time limits expired

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<v Speaker 29>and unless you extend time, that's it. So there's probably

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<v Speaker 29>something that you might want to investigate it. Someone who

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<v Speaker 29>I recommend is a lease a Lease Croft from croft Bridge,

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<v Speaker 29>Croft Bridge there in Perth. She does a lot of

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<v Speaker 29>contested estates wills, so that's someone you can speak to

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<v Speaker 29>about what are the prospects of them getting up?

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<v Speaker 2>How is that? Simon?

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<v Speaker 13>Does that hit?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm very sorry for your losses, Simon, And that's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot for one person to have to deal with

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<v Speaker 2>and then to put up with this as well. Does

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<v Speaker 2>that help you, mate?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 31>It gives me a bit of an insight. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 12>Thanks, Yeah, I'll.

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<v Speaker 31>Contact that CrossBridge and yeah, thank you represents they decided

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<v Speaker 31>to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good luck mate, that's I'm sorry for those losses

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<v Speaker 2>in the last six years. Simon having chat to Nick. There,

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<v Speaker 2>gooda Danny, Hi there, how are you Nick?

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<v Speaker 29>Good Danny?

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<v Speaker 32>My nephew was charged with a defaming or threatening a

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<v Speaker 32>politician on Facebook. Now he they came out and arrested

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<v Speaker 32>him and took possession of his computers and stuff. The

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<v Speaker 32>date on the paperwork is wrong when he's gone to court,

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<v Speaker 32>and they also cannot find the original evidence of him

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<v Speaker 32>threatening this politician. Where does he stand in regard to being.

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<v Speaker 28>In court with that?

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<v Speaker 29>So when it comes to the paperwork is wrong, that's

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<v Speaker 29>called the statement of material facts, so that can be adjusted.

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<v Speaker 29>Sometimes the prosecution make it a date wrong here and there,

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<v Speaker 29>But when it comes to criminal law, the prosecution has

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<v Speaker 29>the burden of proving the case beyond reasonable doubt, so

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<v Speaker 29>they would need to tender that evidence. I wouldn't say

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<v Speaker 29>too much about this case on radio because this conversation

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<v Speaker 29>itself can be used as evidence, so don't give them anything,

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<v Speaker 29>and so they have to prove it. Your nephew has

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<v Speaker 29>the right to silence, which means that he can just

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<v Speaker 29>sit there and go, well, prove the case. He can

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<v Speaker 29>challenge the evidence to say hasn't met the standard of

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<v Speaker 29>beyond reasonable doubt. So this is one that I would

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<v Speaker 29>get some legal assistance on. The government has it Legal

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<v Speaker 29>a program where they do give criminal lawyers your nephew

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<v Speaker 29>access to criminal layers if you can't afford one. That's

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<v Speaker 29>the route that I would go to. And if you

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<v Speaker 29>get a criminal lawyer and if they've lost this key evidence,

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<v Speaker 29>you would just challenge on that and if everything goes well,

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<v Speaker 29>get the case. We'll get dismissed because they haven't or

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<v Speaker 29>finding I'm not guilty. So that's the next step legal

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<v Speaker 29>aid and get a lawyer there, and you can also

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<v Speaker 29>get a juty lawyer as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So that that notion of you know, a Facebook post

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<v Speaker 2>or a social media post is regarded as as a

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<v Speaker 2>publication and it is published. Even if it's disappeared, it's

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<v Speaker 2>still it can be found canted, it's still regarded as published.

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<v Speaker 29>That's right, it is published, and it's we don't often

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<v Speaker 29>hear of criminal defamation charges. It is actually an offense

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<v Speaker 29>and it does exist in the books and so it

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<v Speaker 29>doesn't happen often. But this case was a prominent figure,

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<v Speaker 29>so it did happen, so they can get it. So

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<v Speaker 29>it's the prosecution's job to try and find it right,

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<v Speaker 29>So they would have to do all kinds of stuff

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<v Speaker 29>like maybe they have the subpoena Facebook and go go

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<v Speaker 29>through that process to get it. I would imagine if

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<v Speaker 29>it was published then it would exist somewhere in the

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<v Speaker 29>ether of the ones and zeros. But it's their job,

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<v Speaker 29>so make it harder for them, not easier.

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<v Speaker 33>Does that helped any Yes, it certainly does.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Thank you Danny, thanks for punning. In eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>and a half minutes to eleven o'clock, Mark is one

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<v Speaker 2>of our listeners. He's an uber driver and I think

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<v Speaker 2>you might have heard this where you were waiting to

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<v Speaker 2>come on. It's a bizarre situation. Mark's Nuba driver delivering

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<v Speaker 2>milk to an Australia Post outlet. Delivers the milk gets

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<v Speaker 2>according to Mark, and this is his version of events,

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<v Speaker 2>he gets detained against his will. Let's have a listened

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<v Speaker 2>to Mark from earlier on.

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<v Speaker 18>I had an order for three bottles of milk today

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<v Speaker 18>for Australia Post Malaga. I went there and I was

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<v Speaker 18>held against my will for over ten minutes because the

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<v Speaker 18>guy thought that I must be a terrorist because I

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<v Speaker 18>was delivering milk to Australia Post.

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<v Speaker 2>Basic question, and this is Mark's version of events. Nick

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<v Speaker 2>in a very bizarre situation. If true. Not that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doubting Mark, but I guess there's always two sides to

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<v Speaker 2>every story. Can can a business holder person against their

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<v Speaker 2>will if if they regarding them as trespassing?

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<v Speaker 29>So this is there's a few things going on here, right,

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<v Speaker 29>So make on the face of it, may have a

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<v Speaker 29>claim in taught for false imprisonment right, So false amphrisment

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<v Speaker 29>is a civil claim. Basically, it's where you have been

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<v Speaker 29>prevented from leaving, so they restrict your freedom. So I've

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<v Speaker 29>seen the video, They've closed the gate. He told them

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<v Speaker 29>he wants to leave, they prevented him from leaving. Right,

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<v Speaker 29>So what happens here is Australia Post has to prove

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<v Speaker 29>that they had some sort of authority, some sort of

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<v Speaker 29>either statutory or common law authority to hold Mark. That's

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<v Speaker 29>the question, right, So if he was in an area

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<v Speaker 29>where he shouldn't have been there, say it was potentially

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<v Speaker 29>a tress bars then maybe taking steps to determine if

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<v Speaker 29>a criminal offense has been committed or not, maybe reasonable justification.

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<v Speaker 29>But if he wasn't in an area, if he was

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<v Speaker 29>an area that was easily accessible by everyone, then that

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<v Speaker 29>there wasn't there would not be any justification and Mark

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<v Speaker 29>would get up on that. So it's on the face

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<v Speaker 29>of it, there is a potential claim here. You're potentially

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<v Speaker 29>right to Australia Post to assert that there's been that

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<v Speaker 29>false imprisonment taught been broken, and then it comes down

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<v Speaker 29>to if he gets up on that, then it comes

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<v Speaker 29>down to damages, right, and we have this law called

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<v Speaker 29>the Civil Liabilities Act, which if you want to get

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<v Speaker 29>damages for pain and suffering then you basically have to

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<v Speaker 29>cross this threshold which is about twenty five thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 29>So if you see someone and your pain and suffering

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<v Speaker 29>under state law is less than twenty five k, you

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<v Speaker 29>get zero. This law was passed by insurance companies as well.

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<v Speaker 29>So if he's been detained for ten minutes and you know,

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<v Speaker 29>maybe he's suffered five thousand dollars worth of pain and suffering,

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<v Speaker 29>so that we've reduced to zero. So that's also a

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<v Speaker 29>secondary issue here that may make it more difficult to

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<v Speaker 29>commence this claim, but it's worthwhile calling a personal injury loyal.

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<v Speaker 29>They do these kind of claims all the time. They

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<v Speaker 29>do often no win, no fear, giving them a call

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<v Speaker 29>and just saying, hey, is this is there a claim

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<v Speaker 29>here or not?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it worth?

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<v Speaker 29>Is worth pursuing?

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<v Speaker 2>So thanks Nikka, well answered bizarre So the circumstances, it

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<v Speaker 2>would seem. And the other question that comes to mind

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<v Speaker 2>for me is do we get milk and bottles anymore?

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<v Speaker 29>We don't get it delivered, but I've seen them in

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<v Speaker 29>the shops. I've seen I think bottles are milk because

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<v Speaker 29>of microplastics, right, so if you have a glass glass container,

1:13:12.840 --> 1:13:14.920
<v Speaker 29>it's probably a little bit slightly more healthy for you,

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<v Speaker 29>but they cost a lot more.

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<v Speaker 4>Dope.

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<v Speaker 2>They thank you, thank you for thank you for going

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<v Speaker 2>with me on that one double three eight eighty two

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<v Speaker 2>tours tort yep. I remember that from remember that from

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<v Speaker 2>when I went to school a long time ago. Quarter

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<v Speaker 2>to eleven. We'll come back more of Nick marujack your

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<v Speaker 2>phone in one double three eight eighty two, Milton's SMSU Nikki,

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<v Speaker 2>She's about to study law next year. So I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>finishing off my bridging course. It'll be online. I was

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<v Speaker 2>wondering what undergraduate it had to take so I can

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<v Speaker 2>go into the full law degree later on. Any tip

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<v Speaker 2>you can give me, says Milton.

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<v Speaker 29>So once you've done your law degree, then you want

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<v Speaker 29>to train and get some work experience, and then after

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<v Speaker 29>you've graduated, you have to go and do some post

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<v Speaker 29>post articles.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not yeah, we.

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<v Speaker 29>Don't do it anymore. You do something called College of Law, right,

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<v Speaker 29>So you'll do You're going to College of Laws where

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<v Speaker 29>a lot of there's other education providers. You go there,

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<v Speaker 29>they give you, you know, some training for a few months,

1:14:04.320 --> 1:14:06.320
<v Speaker 29>and then you have to do some work experience placements, right,

1:14:06.360 --> 1:14:08.840
<v Speaker 29>So it could be twenty days up to seventy five

1:14:08.920 --> 1:14:11.479
<v Speaker 29>days something like that. So that usually takes about six

1:14:11.520 --> 1:14:14.360
<v Speaker 29>months to a year to complete. After you graduated, and

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<v Speaker 29>then you're fully fledged lawyer and you'll be you have

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<v Speaker 29>to work supervised for two years.

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<v Speaker 2>So Milton's question is about what undergraduate course he should take.

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<v Speaker 29>I think, well, you need to do a law degree. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 29>so you'll need to Some unis will make you do

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<v Speaker 29>an undergrad first before you do a.

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<v Speaker 2>Law degree be a generic one, comments Yeah.

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<v Speaker 29>Yeah, look, okay, so there's you know, I think anything

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<v Speaker 29>that makes you more valuable. Right, So if you want

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<v Speaker 29>to go into say an area of like tech technology

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<v Speaker 29>and law, you might do with some sort of tech degree.

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<v Speaker 29>I did a commerce degree, right, something very general that

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<v Speaker 29>really helps. But I think that there's a whole variety

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<v Speaker 29>of great degrees you can do. And yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 29>can't really pick one at the moment, but commerce is

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<v Speaker 29>a generic one. If you want to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Mill time that help make commerce maybe or if it

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be more specific it or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 2>So thanks, good luck, Milton, thanks for getting in contact.

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<v Speaker 2>So a long SMS from Robert here. Nick Oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>go through as succinctly as I can. Nick. I recently

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<v Speaker 2>won a court order against a tenant that have maliciously

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<v Speaker 2>damaged my property the tune of nearly ten thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>The former tenants refused to reply to my emails to

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<v Speaker 2>work out a way to pay their debts. I'm now

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<v Speaker 2>looking at trying to enforce the court order, but it

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<v Speaker 2>costs hundreds of dollars. There's no guarantee they even have

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<v Speaker 2>a forwarding address. I try to ask the magest at

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<v Speaker 2>court if they can tell me if they have afording address,

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<v Speaker 2>but they will not disclose this just don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>throw my money at this if they can't enforce it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there any way I can get the court to

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<v Speaker 2>confirm if they have an address for the previous tenant.

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<v Speaker 29>So the court probably can't give you that information, but

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<v Speaker 29>this is I'll give you some general overview of what

1:15:45.520 --> 1:15:47.760
<v Speaker 29>you need to do. So you've got a court order,

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<v Speaker 29>so the next step is to enforce the court order.

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<v Speaker 29>That means you have to file some paperwork with a court.

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<v Speaker 29>Then this person is brought into court and then wages

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<v Speaker 29>might be garnished and stuff like that. Right, But the

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<v Speaker 29>problem is you have to kind of serve that and

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<v Speaker 29>serving means giving it to them by hand. So if

1:16:03.880 --> 1:16:06.400
<v Speaker 29>you can't find someone, there is a process, right you

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<v Speaker 29>have to take reasonable steps to try and locate their address.

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<v Speaker 29>One quick tip is the electoral role. So if you

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<v Speaker 29>go everyone has to be registered to vote. You can

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<v Speaker 29>go into the electoral office and you can go into

1:16:17.360 --> 1:16:21.400
<v Speaker 29>their computers and find someone's name, right, So that's an avenue.

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<v Speaker 29>Other ways that you can do an assex search to

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<v Speaker 29>see if they own any businesses. Obviously this guy is renting,

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<v Speaker 29>so you can't do a landgate search. But so you're

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<v Speaker 29>trying your best to try and find this where this

1:16:32.360 --> 1:16:35.360
<v Speaker 29>person lives. If you can't find where this person lives,

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<v Speaker 29>then what you have to do is apply for substituted service.

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<v Speaker 29>So you go to the court and say, hey, I

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<v Speaker 29>don't know where this person is. I can't give them

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<v Speaker 29>the court documents by hand. Can you please allow me

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<v Speaker 29>to serve them by email? Can you please allow me

1:16:46.680 --> 1:16:49.320
<v Speaker 29>to serve them by text message? So if you've taken

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<v Speaker 29>all steps to try and find their to try and

1:16:51.560 --> 1:16:53.360
<v Speaker 29>give it to them by hand, and you haven't been

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<v Speaker 29>able to do that, then the court will give you

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<v Speaker 29>substituted service. And it sounds like reading this message, he's

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<v Speaker 29>got the email, so you can serve it by email.

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<v Speaker 29>But I reckon just do this yourself. Ask the call

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<v Speaker 29>the process. Hey, what's the forms of substituted service? Fill

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<v Speaker 29>out an AFFI David, and obviously tech steps to try

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<v Speaker 29>and find where they are.

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<v Speaker 8>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, Robert, I hope that helps let us know

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<v Speaker 2>how you go mate. That's very interesting. What was the

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<v Speaker 2>Australian Electrical Commission angle you had there, Yeah, find.

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<v Speaker 29>An electoral role.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 29>So yeah, these are the things that you can't just

1:17:22.360 --> 1:17:24.320
<v Speaker 29>go online and search for anyone's address. You have to

1:17:24.360 --> 1:17:27.000
<v Speaker 29>go into person and you have to actually look in

1:17:27.080 --> 1:17:29.639
<v Speaker 29>their computers and write it down, right, so they won't

1:17:29.680 --> 1:17:31.720
<v Speaker 29>allow you to take any photos and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 8>Right.

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<v Speaker 29>That's that's a tactic that's often been found. Yeah, and

1:17:36.439 --> 1:17:37.760
<v Speaker 29>it just you have to wait for this guy. You

1:17:37.760 --> 1:17:38.800
<v Speaker 29>have to kind of get on there. You have to

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<v Speaker 29>update your details every time there's an election. So if

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<v Speaker 29>you updated, if this tenant updated it recently this recent election,

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<v Speaker 29>you know you might have a current address.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, very interesting. One double three A daddy two

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<v Speaker 2>is the is the phone number if you'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>speak to Nick. We've got a couple of minutes if

1:17:54.560 --> 1:17:57.280
<v Speaker 2>you'd like to give him a call. One double three

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<v Speaker 2>A daddy two. Just a new court case could see

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<v Speaker 2>childcare payments become tax deductible.

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<v Speaker 29>Really, yes, So the rule is from this there's a

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<v Speaker 29>precedent from the High Court from nineteen seventy two where

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<v Speaker 29>someone tried to deduct nursery school fees and the court

1:18:15.439 --> 1:18:18.040
<v Speaker 29>said no, this is a private and domestic expense. You

1:18:18.080 --> 1:18:20.160
<v Speaker 29>can't deduct it. So if you're going to deduct something

1:18:20.240 --> 1:18:22.360
<v Speaker 29>on your taxes, it has to be used to produce

1:18:22.400 --> 1:18:25.679
<v Speaker 29>accessible income and it cannot be for private or domestic nature.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 29>So we have this law firm in the Eastern States

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<v Speaker 29>that is preparing a claim on behalf of one of

1:18:31.240 --> 1:18:37.320
<v Speaker 29>their clients to say, well, childcare fees I are actually,

1:18:38.200 --> 1:18:41.680
<v Speaker 29>you know, help me earn accessible income. And so they're

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<v Speaker 29>trying to get this really old law from the nineteen

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<v Speaker 29>seventies overturned.

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<v Speaker 2>Game changer it would be.

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<v Speaker 29>And if that actually get up on that, then so

1:18:49.479 --> 1:18:53.440
<v Speaker 29>many people can deduct their childcare expensive. Childca is expensive.

1:18:54.200 --> 1:18:56.479
<v Speaker 29>I've got a four year old and it's just a lot,

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<v Speaker 29>So it would be a big win for a lot

1:18:59.120 --> 1:19:01.640
<v Speaker 29>of working parents out The argument is that you know,

1:19:01.840 --> 1:19:04.840
<v Speaker 29>a lot's changed since nineteen seventy one. Maybe back then

1:19:06.040 --> 1:19:08.439
<v Speaker 29>there weren't as many single parents or working parents. Now

1:19:08.640 --> 1:19:12.000
<v Speaker 29>that dynamics completely changed. So these people are arguing this law.

1:19:12.040 --> 1:19:13.799
<v Speaker 29>Fan's arguing, which has got to get with the times.

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<v Speaker 29>And you had a four year old, nick Ah, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 29>just one one little chilly one, a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little Simon or a little Simone. Yeah, a little Lev,

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<v Speaker 2>a little Lev for me, little lev how cool. I

1:19:24.520 --> 1:19:26.559
<v Speaker 2>didn't know that about you one double three eight e two.

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<v Speaker 2>He could snee ski squeeze in a call if you'd

1:19:28.840 --> 1:19:33.000
<v Speaker 2>like to ring Nick marou Chak. A lot of people

1:19:33.000 --> 1:19:34.920
<v Speaker 2>are asking us when still Steve Kilby's on. We've got

1:19:34.960 --> 1:19:37.639
<v Speaker 2>a musician coming on for formerly of the church, Nick

1:19:37.640 --> 1:19:39.120
<v Speaker 2>and he's he's going to be on is it twelve

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<v Speaker 2>thirty sew twelve thirty Steve Kilby will be on listeners

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<v Speaker 2>for those of you that are asking, and we continue

1:19:45.600 --> 1:19:47.120
<v Speaker 2>our yes no poll. I'll bring you up to date

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<v Speaker 2>with that on after eleven o'clock. WA's Legal Practice Board. Nick,

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<v Speaker 2>there's been a hack and it's his bank details of

1:19:53.840 --> 1:19:58.120
<v Speaker 2>legal firms stolen. So it's a cyber investigation and it's

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<v Speaker 2>from it's in our paper today.

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<v Speaker 29>Yeah, that's right. So the Legal Practice Board is the

1:20:02.680 --> 1:20:05.160
<v Speaker 29>umpire that regulates lawyers. They allow lawyers to come into

1:20:05.200 --> 1:20:07.719
<v Speaker 29>the profession, they kick lawyers out who are no good.

1:20:08.600 --> 1:20:11.200
<v Speaker 29>They have a lot of control. So they've been hacked

1:20:11.320 --> 1:20:14.280
<v Speaker 29>and they've been about three hundred gigs of data has

1:20:14.280 --> 1:20:17.120
<v Speaker 29>been stolen and a lot of correspondence. But there's also

1:20:17.120 --> 1:20:20.439
<v Speaker 29>some bank accounts of lawyers. The Legal Practice Board says

1:20:20.479 --> 1:20:23.240
<v Speaker 29>that only limited amount of bank accounts that have been disclosed,

1:20:23.240 --> 1:20:26.880
<v Speaker 29>and they've already let those people know. But the Legal

1:20:26.880 --> 1:20:29.360
<v Speaker 29>Practice Board went and got a court order to stop,

1:20:29.680 --> 1:20:31.479
<v Speaker 29>to get an injunction, to get a court order to

1:20:31.479 --> 1:20:36.000
<v Speaker 29>stop anyone from disseminating or reading this information. But the

1:20:36.040 --> 1:20:38.240
<v Speaker 29>cats out of the bag. And the reality is they

1:20:38.240 --> 1:20:40.200
<v Speaker 29>don't know, they don't really know exactly how much has

1:20:40.240 --> 1:20:42.240
<v Speaker 29>been taken, and this hacking group is now going to

1:20:42.240 --> 1:20:45.800
<v Speaker 29>start releasing things over the next month. So a lot

1:20:45.840 --> 1:20:48.519
<v Speaker 29>of lawyers are worried, a lot of annoyed as well.

1:20:48.600 --> 1:20:50.840
<v Speaker 29>I think the Legal Practice Board got some egg on

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<v Speaker 29>their face and so, but this also coincides with we've

1:20:56.120 --> 1:20:58.920
<v Speaker 29>got a law has been passed in twenty twenty four

1:20:58.920 --> 1:21:02.759
<v Speaker 29>that'll probably take effect next next year which requires government

1:21:02.800 --> 1:21:06.840
<v Speaker 29>agencies to take better steps to guard privacy. So this

1:21:06.880 --> 1:21:08.960
<v Speaker 29>will apply to government departments, and this will apply to

1:21:09.040 --> 1:21:13.840
<v Speaker 29>anyone who services contracts for government departments. Okay, So it's

1:21:14.479 --> 1:21:16.920
<v Speaker 29>so hopefully in twenty twenty six when this takes effect,

1:21:18.080 --> 1:21:20.360
<v Speaker 29>wa government agencies are going to get better at this

1:21:20.400 --> 1:21:23.839
<v Speaker 29>because you know, there's so many hacks. And the Privacy

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<v Speaker 29>Commissioner says that law firms are up in the top five.

1:21:26.360 --> 1:21:30.240
<v Speaker 29>They just easily target, especially small regulators that may have

1:21:30.360 --> 1:21:32.120
<v Speaker 29>not done proper things to protect them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the cybersecurity is such a huge issue, isn't it. Nick?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Thank you for your thoughts, compassion and wisdom today.

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<v Speaker 2>Look forward to catching up with you next week. Light

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<v Speaker 2>the Green Jumper like the Tommy hillf and garden Jumper,

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<v Speaker 2>I like it. Thank you, Thank you, jeers mate, Nick,

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<v Speaker 2>Maru Jack mk Illegal be back with this next week

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time. It's three and a half minutes

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<v Speaker 2>to eleven o'clock. Thank you for listening. Why is Australia

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<v Speaker 2>Post ordering milk through ubers? Is you know? I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>it'll be cheaper to buy it at Cole's. How will

1:22:00.439 --> 1:22:02.519
<v Speaker 2>we buy We buy a lot of milk here, I

1:22:02.560 --> 1:22:05.599
<v Speaker 2>reckon per capita. We buy more milk per capita than

1:22:05.600 --> 1:22:08.080
<v Speaker 2>any other business in Perth. I reckon. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>where we buy it from, but it turns up in

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<v Speaker 2>a milk crate and usually one of our big strong

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<v Speaker 2>sales stuff like Ron Moore or someone brings it in.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it over for the Woodside protesters? The Yester twelve

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<v Speaker 2>and the Nose of forty six, so big response on

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<v Speaker 2>this one. Col says, no, I don't think the protesters

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<v Speaker 2>will stop. Thanks cal climate change is happening. We're still

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<v Speaker 2>with the gas so it's an ongoing dilemma. Thanks good man.

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<v Speaker 2>Eleven o'clock now.

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<v Speaker 1>On Perth six PR. This is Perth Today with Simon Beaumont.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for listening into Perth Today. I'm Simon Beaumont, as

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<v Speaker 2>that nice man said here until one o'clock at today.

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<v Speaker 2>It was said to be post election. It was said

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<v Speaker 2>to be the biggest climate based issue in Australia, the

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<v Speaker 2>extension of the Woodside Project lease. And yesterday Murray Watt

1:23:07.640 --> 1:23:10.400
<v Speaker 2>said he go, he can be there until twenty seventy.

1:23:10.840 --> 1:23:12.760
<v Speaker 2>We hear some conditions, you need to meet them. You've

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<v Speaker 2>got ten days to get back to me and then

1:23:14.640 --> 1:23:17.559
<v Speaker 2>we'll probably try and tick it off. So it's said

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<v Speaker 2>to be the biggest climates based decision that this government

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<v Speaker 2>was going to make. They've made it yesterday or really

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<v Speaker 2>started to make it, and we've asked the question today

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<v Speaker 2>is it now over for the Woodside protesters. At the

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<v Speaker 2>top of the show today, I chronicled some of the

1:23:30.840 --> 1:23:36.320
<v Speaker 2>hardline activism events midnight Oil getting involved, John Butler's been involved,

1:23:37.680 --> 1:23:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Angie Mahon's been involved, Indie singer songwriter protests at Meg

1:23:43.280 --> 1:23:47.679
<v Speaker 2>O'Neil's house. That the facing of down on his luck

1:23:48.080 --> 1:23:51.719
<v Speaker 2>at the art gallery the Woodside, the protest against Woodside Nippers,

1:23:51.760 --> 1:23:54.160
<v Speaker 2>and the protest against Frio Doc has been sponsored by Woodside,

1:23:54.200 --> 1:23:57.760
<v Speaker 2>and so it goes. So that is the reason we're

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<v Speaker 2>asking the question today is over for the Woodside protest

1:24:00.240 --> 1:24:02.160
<v Speaker 2>as the Yester twelve and the Nose of forty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>So our listeners believe that the Woodside protests will continue.

1:24:06.040 --> 1:24:09.160
<v Speaker 2>They have been painted as the absolute death star of

1:24:09.320 --> 1:24:15.719
<v Speaker 2>environmental vandalism by the activists, and our listeners think it will,

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<v Speaker 2>it will continue. Thanks for your thoughts, really appreciate it.

1:24:18.439 --> 1:24:21.360
<v Speaker 2>You will keep a poll going right through until one

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock today. We've had a couple of listeners asking about

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Kilby, who is the singer, songwriter, frontman, bass player

1:24:30.000 --> 1:24:32.439
<v Speaker 2>from the Mighty Band The Church. He's a bit of

1:24:32.479 --> 1:24:39.200
<v Speaker 2>the Church. He's a bit of the Church. Thanks Max,

1:24:55.479 --> 1:24:58.160
<v Speaker 2>What a song? What a song you like that? Macine

1:24:58.560 --> 1:25:01.680
<v Speaker 2>so good? Unguarded moment. Steve Kilby is playing at the

1:25:01.680 --> 1:25:04.720
<v Speaker 2>Milk Bar tonight in Ingwood. That's from seven o'clock. He's

1:25:04.720 --> 1:25:07.000
<v Speaker 2>got some mates with him, Jack Frost, which is the

1:25:07.040 --> 1:25:09.960
<v Speaker 2>album Grant mcclannin's got some strings there tonight he's playing

1:25:10.000 --> 1:25:12.920
<v Speaker 2>some church songs. We're going to speak to St Steve Kilby,

1:25:13.400 --> 1:25:19.440
<v Speaker 2>who sometimes has been described as Steve Gilby by announcers

1:25:19.439 --> 1:25:24.200
<v Speaker 2>who who haven't got their act together, but still Steve

1:25:24.280 --> 1:25:27.280
<v Speaker 2>Kilby is playing at the Milk Bar in Inglewood tonight.

1:25:27.320 --> 1:25:30.240
<v Speaker 2>How good Steve Kilby from the church will join us

1:25:30.600 --> 1:25:33.040
<v Speaker 2>on the program in about an hour and a half's time.

1:25:33.479 --> 1:25:36.720
<v Speaker 2>I love this from Alien. We've talked to our listener Mark,

1:25:36.760 --> 1:25:40.160
<v Speaker 2>who reckons he was detained without permission at Australia Post

1:25:40.600 --> 1:25:44.840
<v Speaker 2>this morning delivering some milk as an uber driver. Aileen,

1:25:44.880 --> 1:25:46.840
<v Speaker 2>you're funny, you're the voice of reason. You're also funny

1:25:46.960 --> 1:25:49.960
<v Speaker 2>if Australia Posts can't get their milk delivered efficiently, delivered

1:25:49.960 --> 1:25:52.160
<v Speaker 2>efficiently without incident. What I hope is there for our mail?

1:25:52.240 --> 1:25:55.479
<v Speaker 2>No wonder it's in trouble as a business Ailien. That

1:25:55.600 --> 1:25:59.280
<v Speaker 2>is excellent work for you. One double three eighty two

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<v Speaker 2>is the is the phone number if you like to

1:26:02.120 --> 1:26:04.000
<v Speaker 2>get in touch with us today. Chriss phone in, did

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<v Speaker 2>I Chris, yeah, Diday.

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<v Speaker 4>Mate, just wondering after years of court case protesters being

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<v Speaker 4>able to lodge their appeal protests, now the bird it's

1:26:13.680 --> 1:26:21.439
<v Speaker 4>been made to continued protests being harassment because it's different

1:26:21.600 --> 1:26:24.880
<v Speaker 4>to protest if your case haven't mentioned in front of

1:26:24.880 --> 1:26:28.200
<v Speaker 4>a court or in front of a hearing well once

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<v Speaker 4>the desions made, shouldn't go again.

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<v Speaker 2>Harassment because I don't know. I don't know, full stop

1:26:36.880 --> 1:26:39.719
<v Speaker 2>new paragraph. I don't know if harassment is a crime.

1:26:41.040 --> 1:26:43.600
<v Speaker 2>I suppose you can protest lawfully and unlawfully, Chris. And

1:26:43.640 --> 1:26:47.439
<v Speaker 2>we have seen four of the bur up Hub you know,

1:26:47.479 --> 1:26:50.720
<v Speaker 2>disrupt borrop Hub protesters have been have been before the

1:26:50.720 --> 1:26:54.280
<v Speaker 2>courts when they trespassed at Meg O'Neil's house with intent

1:26:54.360 --> 1:26:56.880
<v Speaker 2>to trespass at least and they were peened by the

1:26:56.880 --> 1:27:00.479
<v Speaker 2>cops who were mysteriously tipped off as was mysteriously a

1:27:00.600 --> 1:27:03.960
<v Speaker 2>crew from four Corners they my seriously tipped off as well.

1:27:03.960 --> 1:27:06.800
<v Speaker 2>You reckon tip them off one if that was the protesters.

1:27:08.040 --> 1:27:10.120
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know, mate, I guess the look. I

1:27:10.120 --> 1:27:13.080
<v Speaker 2>think I'm an on this one. I think the protest

1:27:13.120 --> 1:27:15.360
<v Speaker 2>will continue, but the hard line protests that some of

1:27:15.400 --> 1:27:18.680
<v Speaker 2>the political activism hasn't just hasn't worked. And I think

1:27:18.720 --> 1:27:21.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm okay to say this. I know Raylene Cooper who's

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<v Speaker 2>an elder, a First Nations woman from the area, from

1:27:24.640 --> 1:27:28.400
<v Speaker 2>the damp Here Burrob area. She is taking Murray What

1:27:28.560 --> 1:27:34.559
<v Speaker 2>to court over this particular issue. So yeah, there's protests, mate,

1:27:34.600 --> 1:27:37.799
<v Speaker 2>and the either lawful or unlawful, and there's mechanisms whereby

1:27:38.880 --> 1:27:43.040
<v Speaker 2>protest groups and activists can try to head projects off

1:27:43.040 --> 1:27:45.880
<v Speaker 2>at the pass. You can mount a very strong argument,

1:27:45.880 --> 1:27:49.200
<v Speaker 2>certainly in my world and in our listeners world, that

1:27:49.280 --> 1:27:53.240
<v Speaker 2>the hardline activism has not worked, given what we heard yesterday.

1:27:54.320 --> 1:27:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Thanks Chris, thanks for your care. Mate. David Smith is

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<v Speaker 2>the chairman of the Connolly Sos action group, joins me.

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<v Speaker 34>Now coulda Dave, good day, Simon, and good day to

1:28:03.600 --> 1:28:04.120
<v Speaker 34>your listeners.

1:28:04.360 --> 1:28:06.240
<v Speaker 2>You've had a win. You and I talked a little

1:28:06.240 --> 1:28:09.599
<v Speaker 2>while ago there was a potential for some apartments being

1:28:09.600 --> 1:28:11.800
<v Speaker 2>built on the site of the Journal up resort, and

1:28:11.920 --> 1:28:13.400
<v Speaker 2>looks like you've had a win with council.

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<v Speaker 34>Yes, indeed, you know the last time we spoke is

1:28:16.840 --> 1:28:21.360
<v Speaker 34>much anxiety amongst residents and everybody in the community. But

1:28:21.479 --> 1:28:25.320
<v Speaker 34>that soon turned to jubilation and celebration on Tuesday night

1:28:26.040 --> 1:28:29.840
<v Speaker 34>when the councilors voted in simple majority to oppose the

1:28:29.920 --> 1:28:33.920
<v Speaker 34>local development Plan. So it's been a wonderful win for everybody,

1:28:35.080 --> 1:28:38.840
<v Speaker 34>and we just want to thank the councilors for supporting

1:28:39.560 --> 1:28:42.960
<v Speaker 34>the local residents. That's very important, and also to thank

1:28:43.000 --> 1:28:45.160
<v Speaker 34>the residents for believing in us that we could actually

1:28:45.200 --> 1:28:47.120
<v Speaker 34>get this to the point where we are at the present.

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<v Speaker 2>Moment, David, is that's the prevailing mood jubilant? Is there

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<v Speaker 2>any way for the proponents of the development to come

1:28:54.520 --> 1:28:55.000
<v Speaker 2>back at this?

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<v Speaker 34>Yes, there is. There's a couple of avenues that can take.

1:28:59.640 --> 1:29:02.400
<v Speaker 34>They can obviously appeal to the what it's called the

1:29:02.520 --> 1:29:06.599
<v Speaker 34>SDAU and obviously try and see whether they can get

1:29:06.920 --> 1:29:12.640
<v Speaker 34>an opportunity to have decision reviewed. But obviously there's some

1:29:12.760 --> 1:29:15.840
<v Speaker 34>other considerations that have to be taken into place when

1:29:15.880 --> 1:29:19.519
<v Speaker 34>it goes through that mechanism, if you like. And my

1:29:20.120 --> 1:29:23.360
<v Speaker 34>what we are really looking for is an opportunity to

1:29:23.360 --> 1:29:25.800
<v Speaker 34>get all stakeholders around the table so we can do

1:29:25.840 --> 1:29:29.480
<v Speaker 34>the right thing for the community, for the environment and everybody,

1:29:30.120 --> 1:29:34.160
<v Speaker 34>and including addressing things like they're housing shortages that we

1:29:34.240 --> 1:29:37.200
<v Speaker 34>experience and so on. So that's what we're hoping that

1:29:37.280 --> 1:29:37.960
<v Speaker 34>we will get to at.

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<v Speaker 4>The end of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, so you will go to the State

1:29:41.320 --> 1:29:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Administry of tribuneal I do know from because I read

1:29:45.720 --> 1:29:49.320
<v Speaker 2>the Post newspaper group. I read this City Post every Friday.

1:29:49.360 --> 1:29:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes accouncil may reject thing, but SAT may approve it.

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<v Speaker 34>That is quite right. So this is often the case.

1:29:56.600 --> 1:29:58.920
<v Speaker 34>But obviously they've got to treat things in their merits.

1:29:59.040 --> 1:30:03.040
<v Speaker 34>And in this particular instance, the circumstances and the environment

1:30:03.120 --> 1:30:05.400
<v Speaker 34>is very, very different to other things that they've considered

1:30:05.400 --> 1:30:07.760
<v Speaker 34>in the past. Yep, so it will be quite a

1:30:07.840 --> 1:30:11.080
<v Speaker 34>unique one, should I say, in this particular instance, And

1:30:11.160 --> 1:30:13.920
<v Speaker 34>that's why I do believe that common sense will prevail

1:30:14.120 --> 1:30:16.920
<v Speaker 34>and people will see a different side of the story

1:30:17.280 --> 1:30:19.639
<v Speaker 34>that we would like to present. And I'm quite sure

1:30:19.640 --> 1:30:21.760
<v Speaker 34>that you'll find an vicable solutions between us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah all right, Dave, well well done. I'm jubilant to

1:30:24.800 --> 1:30:27.360
<v Speaker 2>a point, and we'll wait to see what whats that

1:30:27.640 --> 1:30:29.160
<v Speaker 2>comes up with. Thanks for chatting to us.

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<v Speaker 34>It's a pleasure, simon. Thanks for keeping in touch with

1:30:32.080 --> 1:30:33.920
<v Speaker 34>us and keeping our story up on the air.

1:30:34.040 --> 1:30:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, mate. David cheers mate, David Smith. I think

1:30:36.439 --> 1:30:38.719
<v Speaker 2>he's at the dentist today, is he David? And says

1:30:39.200 --> 1:30:41.559
<v Speaker 2>he's the chairman of the Connolly SOS action groups. Accounts

1:30:41.560 --> 1:30:43.400
<v Speaker 2>of the city of Journal. Love of knocked back the

1:30:43.479 --> 1:30:46.439
<v Speaker 2>developments on the Journal Loup resorts which were said to

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<v Speaker 2>be three buildings fourteen twelve and six stories on the

1:30:50.280 --> 1:30:54.600
<v Speaker 2>golf course. There are properties adjoining the golf course, and

1:30:54.640 --> 1:30:56.880
<v Speaker 2>that those little colder sacks and those little streets there

1:30:58.040 --> 1:30:59.479
<v Speaker 2>not being not back at this stage, but we'll go

1:30:59.520 --> 1:31:01.880
<v Speaker 2>to Sat. It's coming up the fifteen and a half

1:31:01.920 --> 1:31:04.519
<v Speaker 2>minutes past eleven. Love to hear from you today. Roger

1:31:04.720 --> 1:31:06.800
<v Speaker 2>has sent us in a text so I'm an interesting

1:31:06.840 --> 1:31:09.960
<v Speaker 2>discussion regarding cyclists and road use. Thank you Roger. It

1:31:10.080 --> 1:31:12.519
<v Speaker 2>is millions spent on bike paths and still the like

1:31:12.680 --> 1:31:15.800
<v Speaker 2>brigade use the road with a bike path on site,

1:31:15.840 --> 1:31:20.720
<v Speaker 2>often double file. Now wonder motorists becoming patient and intolerant, intolerant.

1:31:20.960 --> 1:31:23.639
<v Speaker 2>Plat's time to introduce licensing for cyclists And yes I'm

1:31:23.680 --> 1:31:26.760
<v Speaker 2>a cyclist, Roger. The best example I can think of

1:31:26.760 --> 1:31:29.800
<v Speaker 2>that is probably Burke Drive. There is people ride on

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<v Speaker 2>Burke Driving in great number. As I said, singles, doubles,

1:31:33.160 --> 1:31:37.920
<v Speaker 2>triples or in pelotons. The cycleway, mate, he's just not

1:31:38.040 --> 1:31:40.880
<v Speaker 2>designed to have bikes on it, isn't it. It's short,

1:31:40.920 --> 1:31:46.000
<v Speaker 2>it's got turns, it weaves through trees, so that's poorly designed.

1:31:46.200 --> 1:31:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I do understand, you know. I often see big pelotons,

1:31:48.960 --> 1:31:52.000
<v Speaker 2>big packs riding down Mount's Bay Road on the Old

1:31:52.000 --> 1:31:56.280
<v Speaker 2>Puppa's Ride for example. That is, they don't use the

1:31:56.280 --> 1:31:58.360
<v Speaker 2>cycle away there. They use the main road because they

1:31:58.920 --> 1:32:00.800
<v Speaker 2>want to spread out and practice sprinting and all of that.

1:32:01.320 --> 1:32:04.920
<v Speaker 2>And I am pro cycling, but I'm also pro licensing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't reckon that's a bad idea at all, Roger.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're on a pushy on a grid hacker and

1:32:09.880 --> 1:32:12.840
<v Speaker 2>you're using the road, you probably should pay a licen fee,

1:32:12.840 --> 1:32:16.639
<v Speaker 2>even if you do it through your car. Rejoe. Anyway,

1:32:16.920 --> 1:32:19.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm okay with that one. I reckon. Maybe cycles could

1:32:19.200 --> 1:32:23.719
<v Speaker 2>pay twenty thirty fifty bucks a year to license their bikes.

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<v Speaker 2>Good luck getting to do it, and good luck policing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Seventeen minutes past eleven, I'm Simon Beimont Brandon, one of

1:32:32.000 --> 1:32:34.559
<v Speaker 2>our correspondences. I first heard of the church the Band

1:32:34.600 --> 1:32:38.240
<v Speaker 2>of the church when they opened with them and the

1:32:38.280 --> 1:32:40.599
<v Speaker 2>divine or supporting Chris Isaac dan Free in two thousand

1:32:40.600 --> 1:32:42.320
<v Speaker 2>and seven, I was only twenty under the Milky Way.

1:32:42.640 --> 1:32:45.639
<v Speaker 2>How good year Rolling Stone Magazine a few years ago

1:32:45.800 --> 1:32:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Brendan said it's the greatest Australian song of the last

1:32:48.000 --> 1:32:50.480
<v Speaker 2>twenty years. So I'll ask Steve killbe you about that.

1:32:50.479 --> 1:32:52.600
<v Speaker 2>That coming up on just a moment. We do have

1:32:52.640 --> 1:32:55.400
<v Speaker 2>a couple of traffics related stories coming up for you

1:32:55.479 --> 1:32:57.880
<v Speaker 2>in the next little while on Perth today. One of

1:32:57.920 --> 1:33:00.680
<v Speaker 2>them is the issue of Burt. I've an added art

1:33:00.680 --> 1:33:03.960
<v Speaker 2>which we've been discussing this morning. Very very popular bit

1:33:04.000 --> 1:33:06.519
<v Speaker 2>of a cycling kit for people who ride around the river.

1:33:06.560 --> 1:33:08.840
<v Speaker 2>It's two point seven k's in length, goes and Canning

1:33:08.880 --> 1:33:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Highway right through to the Point Water golf course. Katie

1:33:11.920 --> 1:33:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Mayor is the mayor obviously of Melow joins us now,

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<v Speaker 2>Hey Katie.

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<v Speaker 35>Oh, Hi Simon, how are you?

1:33:17.320 --> 1:33:17.519
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

1:33:17.600 --> 1:33:20.120
<v Speaker 2>Good to talk to you. This is a very busy

1:33:20.120 --> 1:33:22.439
<v Speaker 2>bit of road, particularly for the ciphing crew, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 34>Oh?

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<v Speaker 35>It's very popular because it's by the water. It's absolutely delightful,

1:33:27.320 --> 1:33:28.080
<v Speaker 35>beautiful drive.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you thinking here?

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<v Speaker 29>Well?

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<v Speaker 35>We've got a petition from sixty four people saying that

1:33:34.479 --> 1:33:38.240
<v Speaker 35>they wanted something done about speeding and noisy cars and

1:33:38.520 --> 1:33:41.599
<v Speaker 35>motorbikes traveling along there and bicycles and so on like that.

1:33:42.080 --> 1:33:45.719
<v Speaker 35>And I think there's been about eighteen crashes over a

1:33:45.760 --> 1:33:51.400
<v Speaker 35>three or four year period, and so the council made

1:33:51.400 --> 1:33:54.439
<v Speaker 35>a decision to just the other night to make sure

1:33:54.479 --> 1:33:57.760
<v Speaker 35>there was a traffic study. Now, the traffic study is

1:33:57.800 --> 1:34:01.360
<v Speaker 35>going to happen in the current in the coming financial years,

1:34:01.400 --> 1:34:04.400
<v Speaker 35>so that's twenty five twenty six, and after that they'll

1:34:04.400 --> 1:34:07.960
<v Speaker 35>present the options to the community. Whatever they come up with,

1:34:08.040 --> 1:34:10.519
<v Speaker 35>the council will have a look at it and then

1:34:10.640 --> 1:34:13.559
<v Speaker 35>we can make a decision. But yeah, it's very challenging.

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<v Speaker 35>It's a very beautiful piece of road.

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<v Speaker 2>It sure is. Yeah, it's a nice houses, great view

1:34:18.960 --> 1:34:21.240
<v Speaker 2>the big Dog Park between the road and the river.

1:34:21.439 --> 1:34:24.120
<v Speaker 2>It's a good bit of a good bit of real estate.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it fifty k's an hour at the moment, Katie.

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<v Speaker 35>Yeah, it's fifty k's an hour, And it looks like

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<v Speaker 35>from what I've seen of the graphs that the people

1:34:32.680 --> 1:34:37.519
<v Speaker 35>are generally in that range. But you know, obviously there's

1:34:37.560 --> 1:34:39.960
<v Speaker 35>other factors so oh, there was a bit of a

1:34:40.000 --> 1:34:42.080
<v Speaker 35>funny story about a few I mean, this has been

1:34:42.080 --> 1:34:46.080
<v Speaker 35>going on for quite some time, the complaints about noise

1:34:46.120 --> 1:34:49.120
<v Speaker 35>and so on like that, and traffic. And there was

1:34:49.200 --> 1:34:51.400
<v Speaker 35>one fellow who said, oh, you know, he wanted to

1:34:51.400 --> 1:34:53.760
<v Speaker 35>have a speed trap put along me to catch all

1:34:53.800 --> 1:34:56.880
<v Speaker 35>the speeders. Well, the funny thing was that actually his

1:34:56.960 --> 1:35:01.160
<v Speaker 35>son ended up getting a speeding ticket. The local residents

1:35:01.240 --> 1:35:03.320
<v Speaker 35>really do need to slow down a little bit.

1:35:03.400 --> 1:35:03.759
<v Speaker 18>Also.

1:35:04.040 --> 1:35:05.519
<v Speaker 35>I know they're in a hurry to get home, but

1:35:05.560 --> 1:35:07.479
<v Speaker 35>they need to be mindful that it is the big k.

1:35:07.800 --> 1:35:10.760
<v Speaker 35>So let's not just blame the outsiders that use the

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<v Speaker 35>road some sciences, actually the locals.

1:35:13.520 --> 1:35:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is funny, Hey, Katie, sixty four complaints. Are

1:35:17.040 --> 1:35:18.599
<v Speaker 2>they from people who live along the road or live

1:35:18.640 --> 1:35:19.440
<v Speaker 2>in the area.

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<v Speaker 35>Oh yes, yes, I gathered there from local residents that

1:35:23.880 --> 1:35:27.400
<v Speaker 35>are concerned. So they put together this petition and presented

1:35:27.400 --> 1:35:30.280
<v Speaker 35>it to council and the response to the petition is

1:35:30.320 --> 1:35:32.960
<v Speaker 35>that there will be a traffic study to have a

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<v Speaker 35>look at what to do. And you know, councilors who're

1:35:36.160 --> 1:35:37.600
<v Speaker 35>just a bit worried it's just going to be a

1:35:37.600 --> 1:35:40.200
<v Speaker 35>whole lot of speed humps. But the officers have assured

1:35:40.240 --> 1:35:43.200
<v Speaker 35>us they're going to look at other types of options

1:35:43.760 --> 1:35:45.760
<v Speaker 35>because yeah, you know, we've got a lot of speed

1:35:45.840 --> 1:35:48.120
<v Speaker 35>humps already, and I think there's a bit of arching

1:35:48.240 --> 1:35:50.439
<v Speaker 35>up in the community about the amount.

1:35:52.360 --> 1:35:54.679
<v Speaker 2>You know, some of our listeners who are cyclist Katie

1:35:54.720 --> 1:35:56.880
<v Speaker 2>have been in contact with us today. There's still a

1:35:56.880 --> 1:35:58.679
<v Speaker 2>lot to be able to get through there at thirty

1:35:58.840 --> 1:36:02.000
<v Speaker 2>thirty k's an our young standard cycling speed. I mean

1:36:02.240 --> 1:36:04.639
<v Speaker 2>you can get through the back roads back through out

1:36:04.640 --> 1:36:06.880
<v Speaker 2>of Dale and around there, but you're not trying to

1:36:06.920 --> 1:36:09.559
<v Speaker 2>get cycles out of the area, are you.

1:36:09.560 --> 1:36:09.840
<v Speaker 9>No.

1:36:09.840 --> 1:36:12.160
<v Speaker 35>No, no, not at all, not at all. We've actually

1:36:12.200 --> 1:36:14.759
<v Speaker 35>got a cycle path as you would probably know, along

1:36:14.800 --> 1:36:18.360
<v Speaker 35>the foreshore. We don't have one along the road because

1:36:18.640 --> 1:36:22.400
<v Speaker 35>the officers have said that really the bikes that go

1:36:22.520 --> 1:36:25.960
<v Speaker 35>on the road are generally commuter bikes and they're moving

1:36:25.960 --> 1:36:30.360
<v Speaker 35>fairly quickly and generally in groups, so they wouldn't sit

1:36:30.400 --> 1:36:33.000
<v Speaker 35>on a cycle path even if we've put one along

1:36:33.040 --> 1:36:35.400
<v Speaker 35>the drive. So that's the thinking at the moment. It

1:36:35.439 --> 1:36:39.880
<v Speaker 35>doesn't mean that thinking can't change during the study. But no, no,

1:36:40.200 --> 1:36:43.519
<v Speaker 35>there's no thought at all of getting cyclists offt there

1:36:43.560 --> 1:36:43.920
<v Speaker 35>at all.

1:36:44.120 --> 1:36:46.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the cycle way, as you say, does

1:36:46.280 --> 1:36:48.360
<v Speaker 2>go alongside the river, but we through the trees near

1:36:48.400 --> 1:36:51.719
<v Speaker 2>the football over there, whose name eludes me at the moment,

1:36:51.760 --> 1:36:54.120
<v Speaker 2>but that's It's okay if you're having a jog or

1:36:54.120 --> 1:36:56.519
<v Speaker 2>a walk, but maybe not a maybe not for bikes.

1:36:56.680 --> 1:36:59.639
<v Speaker 2>So Katie will probably go more in committing Yeah, probably

1:36:59.640 --> 1:37:02.200
<v Speaker 2>know more in a couple of months time. Hey, Katie,

1:37:02.280 --> 1:37:06.040
<v Speaker 2>your question without notice the we're doing an outside broadcast

1:37:06.120 --> 1:37:09.479
<v Speaker 2>at the I think it's the it's over by the

1:37:09.600 --> 1:37:12.320
<v Speaker 2>dome on the on the other side.

1:37:12.040 --> 1:37:14.519
<v Speaker 9>Of you know net where the oh seat water Point.

1:37:14.439 --> 1:37:16.599
<v Speaker 2>Deepwater Point. Yeah, I think we're heading down there next week.

1:37:16.600 --> 1:37:18.679
<v Speaker 2>Maybe if you get a moment, come down and say hello,

1:37:18.720 --> 1:37:21.040
<v Speaker 2>because we're both Brecky and mornings. Will be down in

1:37:21.160 --> 1:37:22.920
<v Speaker 2>Perth now sorry.

1:37:22.640 --> 1:37:24.679
<v Speaker 9>Perth to day, fantastic time.

1:37:24.720 --> 1:37:27.000
<v Speaker 2>What time will be Well, the boys will be there

1:37:27.040 --> 1:37:29.320
<v Speaker 2>from five thirty and I'll be down there from from

1:37:29.360 --> 1:37:30.800
<v Speaker 2>nine o'clock. So if you get a moment drop in

1:37:30.800 --> 1:37:31.759
<v Speaker 2>and say hello, hey.

1:37:32.200 --> 1:37:35.320
<v Speaker 35>Oh definitely will yeah, all right, okay on Saturday, Saturday or.

1:37:35.320 --> 1:37:36.360
<v Speaker 2>Sunday next Wednesday?

1:37:37.160 --> 1:37:41.080
<v Speaker 35>Oh sorry Wednesday, Yeah to get downe okay, great, look

1:37:41.120 --> 1:37:41.960
<v Speaker 35>forward to catching up.

1:37:41.960 --> 1:37:44.360
<v Speaker 2>All right, We'll have a cup of tea. Thanks Katie. Cheers,

1:37:44.439 --> 1:37:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Katie.

1:37:45.400 --> 1:37:45.639
<v Speaker 4>Mayor.

1:37:46.120 --> 1:37:47.960
<v Speaker 2>So the mayor of the City of melbur was so

1:37:47.960 --> 1:37:51.000
<v Speaker 2>twelve month study to look at all of the traffic

1:37:51.040 --> 1:37:54.920
<v Speaker 2>through there. I think Katie said that the commuter groups

1:37:55.360 --> 1:37:57.799
<v Speaker 2>are getting through there in the big packs or commuting commuters.

1:37:57.840 --> 1:37:59.439
<v Speaker 2>Are you know, people writing to work? Aren't they are

1:37:59.439 --> 1:38:02.040
<v Speaker 2>writing home? I think she's talking about the exercise crew

1:38:02.120 --> 1:38:05.360
<v Speaker 2>of the Pelotons, and they do get through there in great number.

1:38:06.160 --> 1:38:08.400
<v Speaker 2>It's one of those parts of Perth where there is

1:38:08.439 --> 1:38:10.880
<v Speaker 2>a lot of cyclists. There's probably more cyclist than cars.

1:38:11.240 --> 1:38:14.680
<v Speaker 2>To be honest, if you're driving through there is either

1:38:14.720 --> 1:38:19.000
<v Speaker 2>going to the dog park or commuting through from point

1:38:19.000 --> 1:38:21.599
<v Speaker 2>A to point B. And the road has been narrowed

1:38:21.600 --> 1:38:22.880
<v Speaker 2>over the years. It's a lot narrower than what it

1:38:22.960 --> 1:38:25.759
<v Speaker 2>used to be. Has some roadside parking and little parking areas.

1:38:25.760 --> 1:38:28.080
<v Speaker 2>It's a lot narrower than it was in the eighties

1:38:28.080 --> 1:38:30.200
<v Speaker 2>and nineties when I was riding through there. We'll come

1:38:30.200 --> 1:38:32.680
<v Speaker 2>back in just a moment. There's a plan there is

1:38:32.720 --> 1:38:37.040
<v Speaker 2>a plan to put a traffic tunnel, a tunnel for

1:38:37.320 --> 1:38:40.519
<v Speaker 2>cars under the City of Perth. I've never heard of

1:38:40.560 --> 1:38:44.200
<v Speaker 2>this before, and it's to do with the refurbishment of

1:38:44.240 --> 1:38:48.280
<v Speaker 2>the Caribean Precinct a tunnel, a traffic tunnel under the

1:38:48.320 --> 1:38:49.880
<v Speaker 2>City of Perth. S day listening.

1:39:00.160 --> 1:39:03.759
<v Speaker 11>Truck remains broken down in Bayswater the Tonkin Highway northbound

1:39:03.800 --> 1:39:06.879
<v Speaker 11>prior to Guildford Road. The left emergency lane is blocked.

1:39:06.960 --> 1:39:09.760
<v Speaker 11>Traffic management on site as well. Make sure you drive

1:39:09.800 --> 1:39:10.960
<v Speaker 11>it carefully.

1:39:10.520 --> 1:39:11.280
<v Speaker 2>In the area.

1:39:11.400 --> 1:39:14.280
<v Speaker 11>Otherwise moving well on the Mitchell beakanan On northbound. Still

1:39:14.320 --> 1:39:17.120
<v Speaker 11>a little slow Ankintail Road, Graham Farmer and the tunnel

1:39:17.160 --> 1:39:20.920
<v Speaker 11>no major issues. I'm Robbie Verm pouts, Traffic leader six PR.

1:39:21.280 --> 1:39:23.479
<v Speaker 2>Go speak to Professor Peter Newman in just a moment,

1:39:23.560 --> 1:39:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Professor of Sustainability at Curtin UNI. There's a plan which

1:39:26.880 --> 1:39:29.200
<v Speaker 2>seems to be backed by the City of Perth to

1:39:29.240 --> 1:39:31.360
<v Speaker 2>build a traffic tunnel under the City of Perth and

1:39:31.400 --> 1:39:35.120
<v Speaker 2>it's to do with the refurbishment of the Korellian and

1:39:35.320 --> 1:39:38.920
<v Speaker 2>the company involved is five Eighths, which five eight I

1:39:39.040 --> 1:39:44.479
<v Speaker 2>think is one of the affiliates associated with with Andrew Forrest.

1:39:44.560 --> 1:39:46.000
<v Speaker 2>I think we'll get to that in just a moment.

1:39:46.840 --> 1:39:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Darren says the footy oval on Burke Driver is called

1:39:48.960 --> 1:39:52.799
<v Speaker 2>Troy Park. Thank you, Darren. Spot on mate correct a window.

1:39:55.000 --> 1:39:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Andrew says, might be a silly question who's using the

1:39:57.040 --> 1:40:00.200
<v Speaker 2>cycle path alongside Burke Drive because it sounds like us

1:40:00.439 --> 1:40:04.400
<v Speaker 2>not using them. Well, Andrew, they're twisty, turney, weavy through

1:40:04.400 --> 1:40:08.120
<v Speaker 2>the trees and they just can't go at that thirty

1:40:08.200 --> 1:40:10.639
<v Speaker 2>k's now, which is the sort of the minimum speed

1:40:10.640 --> 1:40:15.080
<v Speaker 2>that exercise cyclists like to go at. The cycle way

1:40:15.240 --> 1:40:17.920
<v Speaker 2>that Katie Mayer was mentioning, Mate is not appropriate or

1:40:17.960 --> 1:40:21.120
<v Speaker 2>not suitable for people moving at speed. Sorry, if you're

1:40:21.120 --> 1:40:22.720
<v Speaker 2>having a jog, having a walk, or riding in your

1:40:22.720 --> 1:40:27.200
<v Speaker 2>mountain riding your mountain bike, Masa, you know, I like you, Mate.

1:40:27.280 --> 1:40:29.479
<v Speaker 2>I've had a few inocent incidents with the liker brigade

1:40:29.479 --> 1:40:31.400
<v Speaker 2>and there's so bloody arrogant. It's not bloody well funny.

1:40:31.439 --> 1:40:33.240
<v Speaker 2>I've got no time, and they should be on cycle paths,

1:40:33.320 --> 1:40:35.360
<v Speaker 2>not on our bloody roads. Well, mas A lot of

1:40:35.400 --> 1:40:38.680
<v Speaker 2>them are exercising, mate and road cyclist, tray athletes or

1:40:38.720 --> 1:40:41.600
<v Speaker 2>whatever fitness guys and girls, and a lot of the

1:40:41.680 --> 1:40:46.240
<v Speaker 2>cycle ways aren't aren't designed to have bikes on them

1:40:46.280 --> 1:40:48.160
<v Speaker 2>at thirty k's now a lot of them. A lot

1:40:48.200 --> 1:40:51.800
<v Speaker 2>of them aren't. Thanks Masa. Let's remain friends if we can.

1:40:52.800 --> 1:40:56.160
<v Speaker 2>There's a the City of Perth a considering a traffic tunnel.

1:40:56.160 --> 1:40:58.679
<v Speaker 2>I've never heard of this before, considering a traffic tunnel

1:40:58.760 --> 1:41:02.080
<v Speaker 2>under the city. Professor Peter Newman from Kurtin UNI, Professor

1:41:02.120 --> 1:41:05.679
<v Speaker 2>of Sustainability joins us. Now, Hi, Peter, how are you good.

1:41:05.840 --> 1:41:09.840
<v Speaker 36>I'm fine. And it's a traffic tunnel just to get

1:41:10.439 --> 1:41:13.880
<v Speaker 36>trucks in to help build the site. It's not going

1:41:13.960 --> 1:41:18.320
<v Speaker 36>to be a long term traffic tunnel, so it's it's

1:41:18.360 --> 1:41:22.120
<v Speaker 36>a bit different to what you quite thought. I have

1:41:22.240 --> 1:41:24.280
<v Speaker 36>to have a quick look at it because it worried

1:41:24.360 --> 1:41:27.080
<v Speaker 36>me that we're going to try and build a great

1:41:27.120 --> 1:41:30.880
<v Speaker 36>big road under Perth, which would be a real waste

1:41:30.920 --> 1:41:33.720
<v Speaker 36>of money. And think you felt that too.

1:41:33.840 --> 1:41:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, they're not cheap, are these things. So this is

1:41:36.720 --> 1:41:39.919
<v Speaker 2>under the Murray Street more connects the Forest Place Basement

1:41:40.000 --> 1:41:44.200
<v Speaker 2>Reserve with the new basement area of the proposed Carellan development. So, Peter,

1:41:44.280 --> 1:41:47.080
<v Speaker 2>you're hearing that it's just for construction traffic.

1:41:48.160 --> 1:41:52.000
<v Speaker 36>Yes, it's construction only. And look, it's very a very

1:41:52.040 --> 1:41:56.519
<v Speaker 36>important development. This Karellian City. I think it's it's a

1:41:56.560 --> 1:42:01.639
<v Speaker 36>missing link. There's now a lot more pests in Perth

1:42:01.800 --> 1:42:05.280
<v Speaker 36>than cars. It's for the first time for a hundred years,

1:42:05.280 --> 1:42:09.160
<v Speaker 36>you can say that. So people are coming pouring in

1:42:09.200 --> 1:42:12.599
<v Speaker 36>from the railway station and they go through that area

1:42:13.200 --> 1:42:16.040
<v Speaker 36>and they hit the Karelian area. It's hard to get

1:42:16.080 --> 1:42:19.680
<v Speaker 36>through there. It's not very attractive. And then they go

1:42:19.840 --> 1:42:23.400
<v Speaker 36>through all the way to Saint George's Terrace and all

1:42:23.439 --> 1:42:28.320
<v Speaker 36>those developments and for the Elizabeth Keay and all that.

1:42:28.800 --> 1:42:32.559
<v Speaker 36>So the tourists, for example, there's nothing much there for them.

1:42:33.200 --> 1:42:36.479
<v Speaker 36>High Street Mall's been running down, so it does need

1:42:36.640 --> 1:42:41.240
<v Speaker 36>redevelopment and it does need access. So they've come up

1:42:41.240 --> 1:42:44.320
<v Speaker 36>with a clever solution of going under it because there's

1:42:44.360 --> 1:42:48.080
<v Speaker 36>a whole lot of space under there, but there's some

1:42:48.520 --> 1:42:51.519
<v Speaker 36>that they'll have to dig out as well. My problem

1:42:51.640 --> 1:42:55.800
<v Speaker 36>is that they'll have to have a pedestrian strategy to

1:42:56.120 --> 1:42:58.679
<v Speaker 36>get around it, you know, because at the moment that's

1:42:58.680 --> 1:43:03.439
<v Speaker 36>going to go through two of the most frequently used areas,

1:43:03.560 --> 1:43:08.040
<v Speaker 36>the Forest Place and Murray Street more. But so you

1:43:08.080 --> 1:43:11.320
<v Speaker 36>can't just sort of load it up with dirt and

1:43:11.960 --> 1:43:15.040
<v Speaker 36>junk and say where we're trying to make your future better,

1:43:15.960 --> 1:43:18.439
<v Speaker 36>You're going to have to have a place where all

1:43:18.439 --> 1:43:23.080
<v Speaker 36>the pedestrians can easily go around, and so that'll take

1:43:23.120 --> 1:43:27.360
<v Speaker 36>a bit of doing. So it is a challenge, but

1:43:27.520 --> 1:43:30.320
<v Speaker 36>it's not quite a big freeway under.

1:43:30.160 --> 1:43:35.559
<v Speaker 2>The city, all right, Okay, hey, thanks for thanks for

1:43:35.640 --> 1:43:38.360
<v Speaker 2>correcting us on that one, Peter. Is there anywhere in

1:43:38.400 --> 1:43:41.360
<v Speaker 2>your consideration in the city, in the metro area where

1:43:41.360 --> 1:43:44.200
<v Speaker 2>a tunnel would be helpful? I know they're very expensive.

1:43:44.240 --> 1:43:47.240
<v Speaker 2>You're often drilling and making tunnels in a sort of

1:43:47.320 --> 1:43:49.920
<v Speaker 2>a water environment. You know, you're in mard, you're in clay,

1:43:49.920 --> 1:43:52.360
<v Speaker 2>you're in water. Is there anywhere where we might need

1:43:52.400 --> 1:43:53.160
<v Speaker 2>a tunnel to think?

1:43:55.080 --> 1:43:55.640
<v Speaker 36>Probably?

1:43:55.720 --> 1:43:55.800
<v Speaker 14>Not.

1:43:56.320 --> 1:44:00.679
<v Speaker 36>The only thing we really needed was to get the through.

1:44:00.880 --> 1:44:03.519
<v Speaker 36>That was a very big thing and that that caused

1:44:03.600 --> 1:44:06.360
<v Speaker 36>a lot of controversy at the time, and a lot

1:44:06.400 --> 1:44:09.840
<v Speaker 36>of tunnel experts said, oh, it'll never work. And of

1:44:09.880 --> 1:44:14.200
<v Speaker 36>course it's been brilliant and that's that's a major part

1:44:14.280 --> 1:44:17.160
<v Speaker 36>of Perth now, to be able to go through the

1:44:17.200 --> 1:44:21.160
<v Speaker 36>city like that, and you know, it's hard to imagine

1:44:21.200 --> 1:44:26.160
<v Speaker 36>the place without it, and that's an important thing to realize.

1:44:26.360 --> 1:44:30.719
<v Speaker 36>So I don't think there's anything much more. I reckon,

1:44:30.920 --> 1:44:34.479
<v Speaker 36>it's all about fixing the streets now so that we

1:44:34.560 --> 1:44:38.960
<v Speaker 36>can have better access for pedestrians, because they're now the

1:44:39.040 --> 1:44:42.000
<v Speaker 36>biggest numbers, and that's how you make money. That's how

1:44:42.040 --> 1:44:46.840
<v Speaker 36>you attract housing in more housing, more tourists, more activity,

1:44:47.320 --> 1:44:52.759
<v Speaker 36>because Perth is is needs needing more activity. It's losing

1:44:52.800 --> 1:44:56.479
<v Speaker 36>out on that, so we need to make it a

1:44:56.560 --> 1:44:58.320
<v Speaker 36>really attractive place for the future.

1:44:58.840 --> 1:45:01.160
<v Speaker 2>Peter. The last time I spoke, I was talking to

1:45:01.160 --> 1:45:03.840
<v Speaker 2>you about the trackless tramp that sat on the city

1:45:03.840 --> 1:45:06.040
<v Speaker 2>of Sterling forecourt for a while, and you know us

1:45:06.120 --> 1:45:09.519
<v Speaker 2>federal government money and I think you and I'm paraphrasing here, Peter,

1:45:09.600 --> 1:45:11.240
<v Speaker 2>I apologize. I've got this room. You said, this is like,

1:45:11.600 --> 1:45:13.919
<v Speaker 2>this is like the mobile phone. This is an absolute

1:45:14.000 --> 1:45:15.680
<v Speaker 2>game change of this one. I don't reckon. We're going

1:45:15.720 --> 1:45:18.240
<v Speaker 2>to get at Peter. And there may be some liberal

1:45:18.439 --> 1:45:19.600
<v Speaker 2>labor politics in all of this.

1:45:21.479 --> 1:45:24.800
<v Speaker 36>Yeah, and interesting one we talked about this this week.

1:45:24.840 --> 1:45:28.840
<v Speaker 36>There's a study being done on central Perth by the

1:45:29.080 --> 1:45:34.200
<v Speaker 36>Girl group from Denmark that has done two other studies

1:45:34.280 --> 1:45:37.960
<v Speaker 36>before that led to Elizabeth Key and lots of other

1:45:38.280 --> 1:45:42.760
<v Speaker 36>innovations in Perth, which we love now. So they're good

1:45:42.880 --> 1:45:47.599
<v Speaker 36>people and they're very keen on a trackless tram coming

1:45:47.760 --> 1:45:52.599
<v Speaker 36>through to the city from out Curtain Way and then

1:45:52.720 --> 1:45:57.160
<v Speaker 36>up through to the north out to Sterling. Look, it's

1:45:57.360 --> 1:46:01.280
<v Speaker 36>growing in acceptance, the lot of them, our processes. The

1:46:01.360 --> 1:46:06.440
<v Speaker 36>local governments love it, the developers love it, the communities

1:46:06.520 --> 1:46:10.880
<v Speaker 36>love it. There's a lot of issues with the bus

1:46:11.040 --> 1:46:14.280
<v Speaker 36>industry that don't particularly want it because they think it's

1:46:14.400 --> 1:46:17.200
<v Speaker 36>taking over from them. All of that has to be

1:46:17.280 --> 1:46:20.240
<v Speaker 36>worked through, and I think it will be because it's

1:46:20.680 --> 1:46:23.759
<v Speaker 36>it is like a mobile phone. You can't you can't

1:46:23.880 --> 1:46:29.400
<v Speaker 36>go back to the old phone systems. This changed our lives.

1:46:29.479 --> 1:46:32.320
<v Speaker 36>Everybody in the world now is this mobile phone and

1:46:32.880 --> 1:46:36.280
<v Speaker 36>that will happen with these smart systems that are coming

1:46:36.360 --> 1:46:40.719
<v Speaker 36>in with with public transport. They are so much better.

1:46:41.160 --> 1:46:45.080
<v Speaker 36>They're not just like a diesel bus that's converted to

1:46:45.200 --> 1:46:46.320
<v Speaker 36>run on electricity.

1:46:46.439 --> 1:46:46.720
<v Speaker 2>It's not.

1:46:47.600 --> 1:46:49.000
<v Speaker 4>It's a lot better than that.

1:46:49.960 --> 1:46:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just a final one from me, a bit of

1:46:52.960 --> 1:46:55.599
<v Speaker 2>chat around about improving the ferry systems on the river.

1:46:55.680 --> 1:46:58.559
<v Speaker 2>We've tried them before and didn't have a great take up.

1:46:58.640 --> 1:47:01.120
<v Speaker 2>You know, perhaps it's hard get to a ferry terminal.

1:47:01.960 --> 1:47:03.920
<v Speaker 2>It's a little bit slow. People prefer to drive the

1:47:04.040 --> 1:47:07.040
<v Speaker 2>car or use the train. Do you think there's a

1:47:07.160 --> 1:47:12.200
<v Speaker 2>case to expand our ferry systems, Peter, Yeah.

1:47:12.080 --> 1:47:15.960
<v Speaker 36>Look, it's a little bit. They could. They could definitely

1:47:16.000 --> 1:47:19.559
<v Speaker 36>get better and they'll go up the river a bit

1:47:19.680 --> 1:47:25.479
<v Speaker 36>more around to the area around the Opter Stadium and

1:47:25.840 --> 1:47:29.720
<v Speaker 36>that sort of thing that they have special uses. But

1:47:29.880 --> 1:47:33.720
<v Speaker 36>they're never a mass transit solution. They never are going

1:47:33.800 --> 1:47:36.720
<v Speaker 36>to carry a lot of people because you can't get

1:47:36.760 --> 1:47:42.240
<v Speaker 36>to them easily and it's Perth River winds a lot,

1:47:42.360 --> 1:47:45.680
<v Speaker 36>so it takes a lot of time. No, we're not

1:47:45.840 --> 1:47:48.320
<v Speaker 36>going to be able to compete with how quick to

1:47:48.400 --> 1:47:51.439
<v Speaker 36>get from A to B, which is what transports mostly about.

1:47:52.040 --> 1:47:54.600
<v Speaker 36>But our trains are now showing you can do it

1:47:54.760 --> 1:47:58.040
<v Speaker 36>better than in a car on many of our routes.

1:47:58.400 --> 1:48:01.400
<v Speaker 36>So if you didn't get from South Perth to Perth

1:48:01.800 --> 1:48:06.560
<v Speaker 36>quicker than by going by car, and that would be

1:48:06.800 --> 1:48:11.599
<v Speaker 36>during peak out for example, then you know it's got

1:48:11.640 --> 1:48:13.920
<v Speaker 36>a future and there may be a few more sites

1:48:14.000 --> 1:48:18.519
<v Speaker 36>like that. To UWA for example, was one, but I

1:48:18.640 --> 1:48:20.040
<v Speaker 36>don't see it as a big solution.

1:48:20.400 --> 1:48:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah all right, yeah, I think when we tried it

1:48:22.200 --> 1:48:24.080
<v Speaker 2>back in the day, the PTA trial to Peter, and

1:48:24.120 --> 1:48:26.439
<v Speaker 2>they even offered up, you know, free coffee in a

1:48:26.479 --> 1:48:29.600
<v Speaker 2>free newspaper on the trial and people still didn't use it.

1:48:29.720 --> 1:48:33.840
<v Speaker 36>So yeah, you can't bribe people into changing in the

1:48:34.040 --> 1:48:37.200
<v Speaker 36>transport and it's better. We've got to get something better

1:48:37.280 --> 1:48:41.200
<v Speaker 36>and that includes bitting faster and cheaper and better, better

1:48:41.320 --> 1:48:45.760
<v Speaker 36>ride all of that. People are not stupid that they're

1:48:45.800 --> 1:48:51.120
<v Speaker 36>going to choose rather than getting all those incentives. So yeah,

1:48:51.160 --> 1:48:54.160
<v Speaker 36>I look we're getting to grips with these I think

1:48:54.280 --> 1:48:57.920
<v Speaker 36>the trackless trand for example, is a better option. It's

1:48:57.960 --> 1:49:00.519
<v Speaker 36>going to be cheaper and better and faster. Yeah, and

1:49:00.880 --> 1:49:03.040
<v Speaker 36>it's the kind of thing that will help our main

1:49:03.160 --> 1:49:04.320
<v Speaker 36>roads get better.

1:49:04.720 --> 1:49:04.880
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

1:49:05.040 --> 1:49:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Very interesting that you reckon the bus. The bus industry

1:49:06.960 --> 1:49:08.720
<v Speaker 2>doesn't like it. Peter, always good to chat. Thank you

1:49:08.760 --> 1:49:13.080
<v Speaker 2>for your time today. Okay, see see professor Peter Newman

1:49:13.200 --> 1:49:18.320
<v Speaker 2>from Curtain University formerly known as the WA Institute of Technology.

1:49:18.360 --> 1:49:21.040
<v Speaker 2>When I went there in the eighties for one year

1:49:21.120 --> 1:49:23.880
<v Speaker 2>in engineering before the MAT's got too hard one double

1:49:23.920 --> 1:49:26.320
<v Speaker 2>three eight A handy two? What do you reckon? We

1:49:26.400 --> 1:49:29.519
<v Speaker 2>need a tunnel and would you Yeah, I mean I

1:49:29.640 --> 1:49:31.720
<v Speaker 2>know we've talked about a fair bit on the station

1:49:31.840 --> 1:49:35.240
<v Speaker 2>about the expansion of the ferry system. They're just slow,

1:49:35.280 --> 1:49:37.479
<v Speaker 2>aren't they. And our it's not like we're not like

1:49:37.600 --> 1:49:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Sydney Harbor where you can catch the Mouni ferry to

1:49:41.080 --> 1:49:44.639
<v Speaker 2>work or you know the ferry around those water taxis

1:49:44.680 --> 1:49:46.800
<v Speaker 2>that get you around around Sydney. It's just a different

1:49:46.840 --> 1:49:49.680
<v Speaker 2>river system, isn't it. Our big estory one double three

1:49:49.800 --> 1:49:54.040
<v Speaker 2>a D two. David Honey, then member for codder Slow.

1:49:54.120 --> 1:49:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Back in the day he spoke to Oliver Peterson, host

1:49:56.920 --> 1:50:02.240
<v Speaker 2>of Perth Live about building a tunnel through through to

1:50:03.000 --> 1:50:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Uwa and through the Netherlands. Have a listen.

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<v Speaker 26>How good would a tunnel understealing highway be?

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<v Speaker 8>Look, I think it'll be fantastic. You know places you

1:50:11.960 --> 1:50:15.120
<v Speaker 8>go to Sydney and I was really surprised the last

1:50:15.160 --> 1:50:17.560
<v Speaker 8>time I went there just how easy it is for

1:50:17.720 --> 1:50:19.560
<v Speaker 8>such a massive city to get out of there. And

1:50:19.680 --> 1:50:23.519
<v Speaker 8>they really cleverly used tunnel in major congestion points. So

1:50:23.720 --> 1:50:26.960
<v Speaker 8>north of the river you go to see Diego in Chile,

1:50:27.200 --> 1:50:29.599
<v Speaker 8>they've got a major freeway system that runs in length

1:50:29.680 --> 1:50:33.880
<v Speaker 8>of that system a city. It's extremely constrained geographically all

1:50:34.000 --> 1:50:36.800
<v Speaker 8>in the valley and that works brilliantly and I just

1:50:36.880 --> 1:50:39.840
<v Speaker 8>think this is a great solution that is much lower

1:50:39.920 --> 1:50:40.920
<v Speaker 8>cost than people think.

1:50:41.920 --> 1:50:44.800
<v Speaker 2>David Honey speaking to our man Ollie Peterson back in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three one double three eight e two. This

1:50:48.400 --> 1:50:50.880
<v Speaker 2>one here from Norm Gida. Norm, how a mate? What

1:50:51.000 --> 1:50:53.120
<v Speaker 2>we do need is a roadbridge to join Wellington on

1:50:53.280 --> 1:50:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Moslim part two point Waldron Biicton over Blackwall Reach says Norm.

1:50:59.080 --> 1:51:03.120
<v Speaker 2>That's a bridge roadge chees mate. This one here from

1:51:03.360 --> 1:51:06.000
<v Speaker 2>one of our listeners. I've got a long one about

1:51:06.040 --> 1:51:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Burke Drive and I think it's from I can't quite

1:51:10.800 --> 1:51:13.040
<v Speaker 2>big the name because it's how do I look at that? Max?

1:51:13.120 --> 1:51:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Help me out? Thanks, mate, Well, we'll try. And I'm

1:51:16.400 --> 1:51:20.040
<v Speaker 2>a resident on Burke Drive. Tom from Adada. I'm a

1:51:20.120 --> 1:51:23.640
<v Speaker 2>resident on Burke Drive and I feel the first thing

1:51:23.680 --> 1:51:25.040
<v Speaker 2>I'll say is that I feel the cycles of their

1:51:25.080 --> 1:51:27.160
<v Speaker 2>own worst enemy. For the record, A big fan of

1:51:27.200 --> 1:51:29.439
<v Speaker 2>the cycles they provide atmosphere, but when they're traveling four

1:51:29.520 --> 1:51:32.040
<v Speaker 2>or five wide, there are sure to be potential issues.

1:51:32.080 --> 1:51:33.720
<v Speaker 2>I say the biggest issues the resident have is the

1:51:33.800 --> 1:51:37.200
<v Speaker 2>noise they create early hours of the morning, and they

1:51:37.240 --> 1:51:41.439
<v Speaker 2>are noisy. Tom, I've lived on the road because as

1:51:41.479 --> 1:51:43.840
<v Speaker 2>they talk as a riding past, even having a chat,

1:51:44.080 --> 1:51:47.559
<v Speaker 2>they're shouting right, and they created early hours of the morning.

1:51:47.680 --> 1:51:49.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm a fan of the guys and girls with ride Brass.

1:51:49.439 --> 1:51:50.800
<v Speaker 2>They need to conform to what is the general consens

1:51:50.840 --> 1:51:52.800
<v Speaker 2>of relation to the noise in the mornings, almost like

1:51:52.840 --> 1:51:54.519
<v Speaker 2>a building site. They need to keep the noise down

1:51:54.560 --> 1:51:58.320
<v Speaker 2>before seven am. Thanks Tom, and thank you for your

1:51:58.439 --> 1:52:03.720
<v Speaker 2>comprehensive thought thoughts on people who are riding down Burt Drove.

1:52:03.760 --> 1:52:07.000
<v Speaker 2>They do speak really, really loud. Yeah, you're yelling at

1:52:07.000 --> 1:52:08.320
<v Speaker 2>each other in the pack because they've got you know,

1:52:08.560 --> 1:52:11.479
<v Speaker 2>wind wind in their ears, so they're shouting at each other.

1:52:12.160 --> 1:52:15.760
<v Speaker 2>Seventeen and a half minutes to midday. Where do we

1:52:15.840 --> 1:52:17.200
<v Speaker 2>need a tunnel? Get I Terry?

1:52:18.640 --> 1:52:22.280
<v Speaker 37>Okay, Simon Simon. Firstly, mate, I hope you've dusted up

1:52:22.320 --> 1:52:24.240
<v Speaker 37>to Beanie because the cold weather's coming in.

1:52:27.160 --> 1:52:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I will try old Bob dust off by Sapporo.

1:52:32.040 --> 1:52:35.240
<v Speaker 13>Beating Terry Okay, thank you mate.

1:52:35.280 --> 1:52:36.920
<v Speaker 37>There's a couple of ways you can do a tunnel.

1:52:37.960 --> 1:52:41.599
<v Speaker 37>You could do it from the under the Hay Street

1:52:42.240 --> 1:52:47.000
<v Speaker 37>overpass heading onto the Nanows one there to stop that

1:52:47.200 --> 1:52:49.800
<v Speaker 37>blockage of all the traffic coming from the city and

1:52:50.200 --> 1:52:54.200
<v Speaker 37>Freeway north. And you can also structure a tunnel under

1:52:55.040 --> 1:52:59.240
<v Speaker 37>the causeway from Riverside Drive which brings you up at

1:52:59.280 --> 1:53:04.960
<v Speaker 37>the back of Canning Highway towards the Birds over Pass.

1:53:05.120 --> 1:53:08.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, not a bad idea. Hey, Terry. Have you

1:53:08.200 --> 1:53:10.679
<v Speaker 2>have you been across the new bridge, the new Harrison

1:53:10.720 --> 1:53:11.280
<v Speaker 2>Island Bridge.

1:53:12.880 --> 1:53:15.040
<v Speaker 37>No, I haven't made no, no, not as yet.

1:53:15.160 --> 1:53:16.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I haven't give it a go mate. It's pretty good.

1:53:16.840 --> 1:53:19.560
<v Speaker 2>It's like three lanes wide and yeah it's good, a

1:53:19.640 --> 1:53:20.479
<v Speaker 2>bit of nice view.

1:53:22.760 --> 1:53:24.559
<v Speaker 37>I might take a cycle class there, but I'll get

1:53:24.560 --> 1:53:25.840
<v Speaker 37>abused by all the pedestrians.

1:53:26.880 --> 1:53:31.280
<v Speaker 2>You won't, mate, We cyclists of people too, Terry, You'll

1:53:31.320 --> 1:53:36.320
<v Speaker 2>be right, thanks mate, Thanks you call Terry the Yeah,

1:53:36.360 --> 1:53:37.680
<v Speaker 2>the new bridge is good, isn't it? Have you I've

1:53:37.720 --> 1:53:39.559
<v Speaker 2>riden my bike over there, had to walk over. It's good.

1:53:41.840 --> 1:53:42.960
<v Speaker 2>It's got a bit of a hill in it. I've

1:53:42.960 --> 1:53:44.960
<v Speaker 2>got a little bit bit weavy, little bit of a

1:53:45.080 --> 1:53:47.920
<v Speaker 2>view like a new bridge, the Heriston Island Bridge one

1:53:48.000 --> 1:53:52.800
<v Speaker 2>level three eighty two, a bridge over Lake June Lup

1:53:52.840 --> 1:53:59.320
<v Speaker 2>to connect jon Lup and Wanneroo. These ideas that and

1:53:59.520 --> 1:54:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Barclays idea thanks am, I'll put that in the mix.

1:54:03.920 --> 1:54:06.040
<v Speaker 2>You may have read some stories on you would have

1:54:06.120 --> 1:54:08.400
<v Speaker 2>heard this as a rumor on the rumor file, and

1:54:08.840 --> 1:54:12.439
<v Speaker 2>you may have read some stories on Perth Now South

1:54:12.520 --> 1:54:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Cooogie Junior Footy Club, which is Glen Jackevitch's old footy

1:54:15.320 --> 1:54:18.479
<v Speaker 2>club have got two ovals. One of them is lit

1:54:18.800 --> 1:54:21.320
<v Speaker 2>at night, has got flood lights. The other one isn't

1:54:21.880 --> 1:54:23.599
<v Speaker 2>and it's a little bit dangerous for the kids who've

1:54:23.600 --> 1:54:25.760
<v Speaker 2>been training on it, the footy kids who have been

1:54:25.800 --> 1:54:28.960
<v Speaker 2>training on it. And it's a matter of Western Power

1:54:29.360 --> 1:54:32.120
<v Speaker 2>have the job ready to go. The funds are there,

1:54:32.360 --> 1:54:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Western Power haven't got around to putting up the connecting

1:54:34.760 --> 1:54:36.760
<v Speaker 2>the flood lights. Just as yet. It was in our

1:54:36.840 --> 1:54:40.080
<v Speaker 2>rumor file on Monday. We'll bring you up to date

1:54:40.120 --> 1:54:43.160
<v Speaker 2>with that. It's called it at twelve now. Andrew Andrew says, Hi,

1:54:43.280 --> 1:54:45.839
<v Speaker 2>Simon god Andrew. Hello, mate, So a group of teenagers

1:54:45.840 --> 1:54:48.520
<v Speaker 2>on bikes or Eastwood as we treat like criminals, but

1:54:48.600 --> 1:54:50.440
<v Speaker 2>a group of men riding bikes we meant to treat

1:54:50.440 --> 1:54:55.320
<v Speaker 2>them like royalty. Something has gone wrong. Who's saying we

1:54:55.400 --> 1:54:57.880
<v Speaker 2>need to tream like royalty? Mate? They're just people doing

1:54:57.960 --> 1:55:02.120
<v Speaker 2>exercise and that's thing. That's the thing. They're doing exercises,

1:55:02.160 --> 1:55:06.400
<v Speaker 2>and it's exercise. Andrew a group of teenagers on bikes,

1:55:06.440 --> 1:55:08.920
<v Speaker 2>two hundred of them riding out from Charles Riley Reserve,

1:55:09.000 --> 1:55:13.000
<v Speaker 2>mate and doing fifty sixty k's an hour. That we

1:55:13.160 --> 1:55:14.920
<v Speaker 2>do need the police to crack down on them. Steve

1:55:15.040 --> 1:55:17.920
<v Speaker 2>says Simon. I'm with Anne. A bridge from June Lot

1:55:18.000 --> 1:55:22.680
<v Speaker 2>to Wanneroo Road, Say Steve, how long is that? It's

1:55:22.680 --> 1:55:27.040
<v Speaker 2>all twenty It'll be like it would be long, Yeah,

1:55:27.080 --> 1:55:29.640
<v Speaker 2>it would be long. A tunnel under Oroon Road from

1:55:29.640 --> 1:55:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Graham Farmer Freeway to Leach Highways is Jacob cheers, Jacob,

1:55:32.600 --> 1:55:35.680
<v Speaker 2>thank you, mate. Zeno reckons the Harrison Island bridges is

1:55:35.800 --> 1:55:38.800
<v Speaker 2>rusty already. And if you're listening the program yesterday, as

1:55:39.080 --> 1:55:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Anne is thirty one weeks pregnant this Friday and we

1:55:42.040 --> 1:55:45.920
<v Speaker 2>were trying to find a name for her Bubba. I'm

1:55:46.000 --> 1:55:49.879
<v Speaker 2>obviously advocating for a little baby simone, which which strangely

1:55:50.000 --> 1:55:53.360
<v Speaker 2>is getting traction with Anne herself, and we were discussing

1:55:53.400 --> 1:55:55.640
<v Speaker 2>the idea of maybe naming the baby after a horse

1:55:56.200 --> 1:55:59.280
<v Speaker 2>that's won the Melbourne Cup. And Brendan says, a new

1:55:59.320 --> 1:56:02.840
<v Speaker 2>bridge for Anne to little Drimus in a pram that's

1:56:02.880 --> 1:56:05.000
<v Speaker 2>funny and was on the radio earlier. May have heard her.

1:56:05.400 --> 1:56:10.480
<v Speaker 2>She was on the radio and I heard her thank you,

1:56:11.320 --> 1:56:13.400
<v Speaker 2>Jakie boy, thank you and a couple of texts about

1:56:13.400 --> 1:56:16.320
<v Speaker 2>tunnel which we've just read out. This was a rumor

1:56:16.400 --> 1:56:18.600
<v Speaker 2>file earlier in the week on Monday, I think it was.

1:56:19.360 --> 1:56:21.360
<v Speaker 2>The rumor was from after the siren and it's about

1:56:21.400 --> 1:56:22.920
<v Speaker 2>South Cooogie Junior Footy Club.

1:56:23.960 --> 1:56:26.880
<v Speaker 38>Rumour has it whilst the South Koogee Junior Footy Club

1:56:27.200 --> 1:56:29.880
<v Speaker 38>are waiting for Western Power to turn on new floodlights

1:56:30.200 --> 1:56:33.240
<v Speaker 38>at Santich Park, kids are getting hurt from training in

1:56:33.280 --> 1:56:37.080
<v Speaker 38>the dark. Apparently Western Power needs to upgrade the distribution board,

1:56:37.280 --> 1:56:39.480
<v Speaker 38>which mon't be done until the end of June. Why

1:56:39.600 --> 1:56:42.720
<v Speaker 38>so long despite parents trying to use their car lights

1:56:43.120 --> 1:56:45.320
<v Speaker 38>to light up the ground. Apparently a child broke his

1:56:45.440 --> 1:56:48.320
<v Speaker 38>finger last week trying to mark the ball in the dark.

1:56:49.760 --> 1:56:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Then Andrews is the VP, the vice president of the

1:56:52.680 --> 1:56:57.040
<v Speaker 2>South Cougie Junior Football Club, which includes, amongst alumni, the

1:56:57.160 --> 1:57:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Jackowitch brothers. Good A, Glenn Good Yeah, very well. So

1:57:02.840 --> 1:57:05.120
<v Speaker 2>do we have any updates from I know that person

1:57:05.160 --> 1:57:06.640
<v Speaker 2>now run a story as well. Do we have any

1:57:06.840 --> 1:57:08.440
<v Speaker 2>updates from the rumor? Fig Win.

1:57:11.120 --> 1:57:13.560
<v Speaker 30>Not really. Well, let's just say West and I still

1:57:13.600 --> 1:57:18.480
<v Speaker 30>haven't concert us direct, as they may have said on

1:57:18.560 --> 1:57:23.200
<v Speaker 30>a Facebook post. Just a couple of things on our perth.

1:57:23.360 --> 1:57:23.480
<v Speaker 34>Now.

1:57:23.600 --> 1:57:26.840
<v Speaker 30>We never said parents are holding their mobile phones out

1:57:26.920 --> 1:57:29.760
<v Speaker 30>with torches, because that's as good as holding the kindles

1:57:29.760 --> 1:57:32.360
<v Speaker 30>out there. To be honest, Yeah they are. They are

1:57:32.800 --> 1:57:36.480
<v Speaker 30>using their car lights. I set up my year as well.

1:57:36.560 --> 1:57:38.160
<v Speaker 30>This body is on there to help us train. We

1:57:38.240 --> 1:57:42.280
<v Speaker 30>don't expect kids to train in the dark, but they

1:57:42.360 --> 1:57:44.200
<v Speaker 30>want to train, they want to learn, they want to

1:57:44.320 --> 1:57:46.520
<v Speaker 30>they want to get better skills. So we're on game day,

1:57:47.120 --> 1:57:49.960
<v Speaker 30>you know, we can go out there and hopefully win

1:57:50.040 --> 1:57:52.560
<v Speaker 30>a game. That's what it's all about, you know, it's

1:57:52.560 --> 1:57:55.720
<v Speaker 30>about the kids having fun. Oh of course we've got

1:57:55.800 --> 1:58:01.640
<v Speaker 30>twenty one teams. So we're told last year started this year.

1:58:02.080 --> 1:58:06.800
<v Speaker 30>The lights been up since off February. March got told

1:58:06.840 --> 1:58:10.000
<v Speaker 30>we're going to be connected by April. We're like, great,

1:58:10.040 --> 1:58:12.000
<v Speaker 30>we can allow more kids to register because we don't

1:58:12.000 --> 1:58:15.560
<v Speaker 30>want no footy club once not that kids from being

1:58:15.560 --> 1:58:16.400
<v Speaker 30>able to play football.

1:58:16.520 --> 1:58:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, that's what it's all about.

1:58:19.120 --> 1:58:22.240
<v Speaker 30>So we were able to accommodate, and when well we're

1:58:22.240 --> 1:58:24.840
<v Speaker 30>going to have two obles with lights, we'll be able

1:58:24.880 --> 1:58:28.080
<v Speaker 30>to accommodate. So currently we've got one oval, which no

1:58:28.160 --> 1:58:30.360
<v Speaker 30>one trains on a Friday for obvious reasons, when we

1:58:30.440 --> 1:58:34.720
<v Speaker 30>all mainly all play on Saturday. So we've got twenty

1:58:34.800 --> 1:58:38.800
<v Speaker 30>one teams trying to train four nights a week.

1:58:38.720 --> 1:58:41.560
<v Speaker 2>On one oval on one oble. Yeah all right, mate,

1:58:42.200 --> 1:58:44.640
<v Speaker 2>what a Western power saying? I understand all of that.

1:58:44.880 --> 1:58:46.800
<v Speaker 2>And there it must be frustrating to see them just

1:58:46.840 --> 1:58:48.160
<v Speaker 2>sitting there and you can't turn them on.

1:58:48.960 --> 1:58:51.120
<v Speaker 30>Well, the ironic thing is now they won't turn on

1:58:51.240 --> 1:58:55.000
<v Speaker 30>anyway because due to the installation and they're not working,

1:58:55.280 --> 1:58:59.400
<v Speaker 30>the lovely white cockies have now gone to strip the

1:58:59.480 --> 1:59:00.800
<v Speaker 30>cable off most of them.

1:59:01.040 --> 1:59:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, damn those white cookies. Yeah that's no good.

1:59:04.800 --> 1:59:08.760
<v Speaker 30>Yeahs they make across across the city.

1:59:08.920 --> 1:59:14.000
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so that we do have, yeah, that no standing, mate,

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<v Speaker 2>And that that can be fixed, I guess, can we

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<v Speaker 2>fixed hopefully reasonably quickly? What are Western powers to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you you're going to get the lights on before

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<v Speaker 2>the season finishes.

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<v Speaker 30>Well, here's here's hoping, Like I said, they haven't actually

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<v Speaker 30>reached out to us directly. Obviously I have seen we're

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<v Speaker 30>looking at the end of the City of Coburn to

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<v Speaker 30>come back to us and said they're looking at the

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<v Speaker 30>end of June. So we've only got you know, probably

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<v Speaker 30>by the end of June, there's only five six weeks left. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 30>actually not even that, probably about four weeks left. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 30>the season two thirds over by.

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<v Speaker 2>That stage, so yeah, damn yeah, sorry, you can go ahead,

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead.

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<v Speaker 30>So we've got we've got nine I was kicked teams

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<v Speaker 30>this year as well, and obviously, you know, kids want

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<v Speaker 30>to play under lights and all the fun. But we

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<v Speaker 30>on a Sunday, both lables are full of oz Kick kids.

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<v Speaker 30>So we're the logistics of trying to have Friday nights

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<v Speaker 30>for oz Kick, you know, one year this week, one

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<v Speaker 30>year that it's it's it's not feasible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, the grass in the your cobae, the grass.

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<v Speaker 30>You can use. We've contact with the council. Obviously Tuba

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<v Speaker 30>Up got their lights on, but obviously that's been used

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<v Speaker 30>for them. There is one one or two lights out

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<v Speaker 30>of the Angel Up ground where we're currently trying to

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<v Speaker 30>speak with the council to see if we can use that.

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<v Speaker 30>But the problem that is is only one goal process,

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<v Speaker 30>so that doesn't help either.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would be frustrating. You know, you've been you've

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<v Speaker 2>been given an assurance year the lights will be on

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<v Speaker 2>at the start of the season, you know, obviously than

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<v Speaker 2>the night are getting longer now, so you do need

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<v Speaker 2>the lights and you've got a problem with some of

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<v Speaker 2>the kids can't.

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<v Speaker 30>Yeah. We've explained to all the coaches that if it's

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<v Speaker 30>not safe, don't do it. The kids are going to

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<v Speaker 30>get hurt. It's football. They're going to get pumps and bruises,

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<v Speaker 30>they're going to get.

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<v Speaker 39>Knox and all the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 30>We get that, but to try and train with what

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<v Speaker 30>lightning we've got, it's not the best, but you know,

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<v Speaker 30>the club does what it can to make it work.

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<v Speaker 2>Yea, yeah, yeah, Well, I mean if anyone's from West

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<v Speaker 2>and Western Power, we'll get these transcripts made through their

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<v Speaker 2>media monitors, you know, and they yeah, get onto Western

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<v Speaker 2>Power if you can, if you can hear us, because

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's that's what the plan wasn't and that was

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<v Speaker 2>what was promised. Glenn Goodwill, Yeah, good to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>you mate. Yeah, all the best if thank you Glenn

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<v Speaker 2>Andrews from South Cousey Junior Football Club and as I said,

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<v Speaker 2>that's so, we're with Glenn and Allen Jakovich grew up

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<v Speaker 2>plying their traders as kids, quite a prominent junior footy club.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just off just off Stock Road at Sandwich Park.

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<v Speaker 2>That was on the rum A file, so you know

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<v Speaker 2>Sillem had the lights turned on one double three eighty two.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a couple of stories, just a couple of quick

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<v Speaker 2>up days. Looks like Sean Darcy will play for FRIO

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<v Speaker 2>this weekend. I think they're playing on Saturday against the

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<v Speaker 2>Gold Coast Sons. So Shawn Darcy's on the plane, which

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<v Speaker 2>is good. And Mag Sizbanski has revealed that she has

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<v Speaker 2>a form of blood cancer, which is a great shame.

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<v Speaker 2>Mag that can be outspoken but of course incredibly funny

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<v Speaker 2>dude through the over the journey. But she's crook, which

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<v Speaker 2>is no good. We'll come back three and a half

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<v Speaker 2>to mid day. I think I'm about to have a

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<v Speaker 2>slight disagreement with a fellow Quanana residents or former Quanana resident,

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<v Speaker 2>Troy four one nine O Troy, I drive a truck

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<v Speaker 2>around the Metro all day, every day. The amount of

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<v Speaker 2>so called exercises on bikes with no reflectors on their

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<v Speaker 2>pedals or their rims is illegal. No one of they're

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<v Speaker 2>getting hit at night, Troy, the ones we're getting hit

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<v Speaker 2>at night with the east scooters and MATEO, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have reflectors on my pedals or my my rims of

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<v Speaker 2>my pushy. Didn't know you needed to be on a

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<v Speaker 2>race bike, mate, Thanks Troy, Sorry to disagree, fellow for

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<v Speaker 2>one niner midday mel Crittle.

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<v Speaker 1>Next until one. This is Perth Today with Simon Beaumont

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<v Speaker 1>on Perth six. Pr Owen from East Frio.

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<v Speaker 2>Goodah, thanks for making contact mate, he said, Hello Simon,

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<v Speaker 2>and talk about cyclists here. Riverside Road, East Frio, Preston

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<v Speaker 2>Point Road, Bicton Conning Highway to Burk Drive Saturday Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>morning to the same issues as Burke Drive. One lane

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<v Speaker 2>road completely dropped, blocked off by bikes and no stopping

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<v Speaker 2>for a roundabout stop signs, vehicles doing speed limits. They

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<v Speaker 2>sound like a gaggle of geese. Lords of the road,

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<v Speaker 2>says Ohen so Owen is spotting that south of the

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<v Speaker 2>river and that unfortunately, as I said, some cyclists do

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<v Speaker 2>behave badly sometimes in these big pelotons. Thanks for listening in.

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<v Speaker 2>It is good on you Owen. Thanks, good to hear

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<v Speaker 2>from you. Mate. It is eight minutes past midday. Doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Bell Critle joins us. Now high Mel, good to see you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>good going well, Yes, thank you and you yeah going

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<v Speaker 2>very well. Thank you. If you'd like to speak to Mel,

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<v Speaker 2>you can our best caller today. Wins the next half hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Wins a bag of Cherish pet food bespoke to your pet.

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<v Speaker 2>We had Scott from Cherish in a couple of weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 26>Yeah, that was good. It was listening to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's good, good guy, isn't he. They are based

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<v Speaker 2>down in Naval Base. They manufacture and make all the

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<v Speaker 2>and produce all the food down there. They're a local producer.

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<v Speaker 2>Had some dramas a couple of years ago with a

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<v Speaker 2>fire they did. They were of action.

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<v Speaker 26>Yeah, it's nice to see them back on deck and

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<v Speaker 26>their product out there in circulation and yeah, cats eating it.

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<v Speaker 2>Give it to your animals.

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<v Speaker 26>I look, I switched to another one because of the

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<v Speaker 26>fire and I haven't gone back, but yeah, they're still

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<v Speaker 26>getting through their bags. Yeah, I got too fuss at

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<v Speaker 26>home anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Cherish pet food folks will give them.

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<v Speaker 2>Give that away today a bag of Cherish pet food

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<v Speaker 2>for for our best caller one double three ad to

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<v Speaker 2>big changes mell this week in the pet industry.

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<v Speaker 26>Hate those laws have come into play for the pet shops. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 26>so I was reading, Yeah, on the twenty six, I

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<v Speaker 26>think it was that it doesn't look like the two

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<v Speaker 26>or three pet shops in wa went ahead and renewed

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<v Speaker 26>the licensing to source pets from to sell from refuges.

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<v Speaker 26>So I think I know the Clermont store near us is.

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<v Speaker 26>I believe he is no longer open. So yeah, so

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<v Speaker 26>I guess it just I mean, I can see why

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<v Speaker 26>they're doing it, you know, to reduce unwanted yeah, dogs

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<v Speaker 26>and cats, but in this instance primarily the dogs and

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<v Speaker 26>sort of just trying to cut down on puppy farming

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<v Speaker 26>and backyard breeders and that sort of thing. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 26>do see a lot of the refuges are full, so

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<v Speaker 26>it's yeah a situation.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We spoke to the Shenton Park guys earlier this week

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<v Speaker 2>and they are replete with dogs at the moment. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they've got about seventy on their books that they'd

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<v Speaker 2>be keen to kind a home for Yes, if you

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<v Speaker 2>like to speak to Melie can one double three, one

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<v Speaker 2>double three, eight to eighty two if you like to

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<v Speaker 2>give us a call. Melog I don't know if this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be proven or proven out, but it

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<v Speaker 2>just feels like this mainly to the expensive dogs becoming

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<v Speaker 2>more expensive.

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<v Speaker 26>I wonder, I mean the same, Yeah, I guess. You know,

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<v Speaker 26>it was interesting during COVID in those times when we

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<v Speaker 26>were all in lockdown and felt like everyone went out

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<v Speaker 26>and got a dog, and I guess it was the

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<v Speaker 26>only time that I can recall in a long time that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 26>the refuge numbers were low, and the price of puppies

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<v Speaker 26>from pet shops and breeders and that thing and that

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<v Speaker 26>sort of thing, it was very, very high. It's come

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<v Speaker 26>down a little bit, but you do wonder, yeah, whether

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<v Speaker 26>there's going to be a bit of an adjustment there

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<v Speaker 26>because I guess that that sort of Yeah, the ease

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<v Speaker 26>of getting a puppy from a pet shop is no

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<v Speaker 26>longer yeap. But as I said, yeah, whether you know,

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<v Speaker 26>I suppose then you're sourcing from over East, is there's

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<v Speaker 26>risks with that and what you might purchase. So again, yeah,

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<v Speaker 26>just going back to the adoption, not just the dog

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<v Speaker 26>refuge home. There's plenty of other rescue centers that have

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<v Speaker 26>dogs that they're trying to find foster homes for or

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<v Speaker 26>actual permanent homes. So yeah, it'd be nice to see

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<v Speaker 26>some of those numbers reduced.

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<v Speaker 2>We spoke to the RSPCA. They did a bust on

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<v Speaker 2>a house recently. One hundred and seventeen dogs. Oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 2>and one garden inside and outside. That's a lot in it.

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<v Speaker 26>That's a lot. We hear of stories of cats of

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<v Speaker 26>that number. I'll tell you about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dogs, a lot of yu Canuba.

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<v Speaker 26>That's a lot, a lot of energy as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Gilkish would say, I've on phone in you can

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<v Speaker 2>one double three eight eighty two. Any behavioral staff for

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<v Speaker 2>stuff to do with your dogs cats? Can I ask

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<v Speaker 2>you goldfish question? Mel I every now and then you

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<v Speaker 2>get them. I've got one goldfish, yes, probably fifteen centimeters long,

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<v Speaker 2>probably three or four years old. Wow, is he going

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<v Speaker 2>to live for much longer? How long do they live for?

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<v Speaker 26>Ah, now you've got me on the spot. I think

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<v Speaker 26>they can live. I mean some of them will live

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<v Speaker 26>for years. Some of the bigger fish, you know, will

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<v Speaker 26>live decades, so you're obviously taking really good care of.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it's by accident used to have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more fish in the tank. So it's ninety the tanks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a big tank, right, Yeah. Can I introduce little

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<v Speaker 2>fish into that? Do you think was it too big

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<v Speaker 2>on its own?

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<v Speaker 14>Well?

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<v Speaker 26>I probably don't need to. Yeah, that is what I'd

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<v Speaker 26>be worried about. Yeah, because I have had that happen myself,

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<v Speaker 26>as you sort of introduce smaller fish and than they

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<v Speaker 26>are and they disappear. Yeah, they're no longer really there

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<v Speaker 26>for very long, so that would be my only Yeah,

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<v Speaker 26>sort of thought on that.

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<v Speaker 2>You've done very well, thank you.

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<v Speaker 26>But I suppose if I give you a number, then

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<v Speaker 26>this fish will outlive that, so we sort of.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, would you like me to say anything you like,

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<v Speaker 2>because I trust you don't betray that trust Man Martin's

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<v Speaker 2>phone in Goo Martin.

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<v Speaker 20>Him mel Simon. I'm actually asking for a friend. They've

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<v Speaker 20>got a to cross.

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<v Speaker 8>Mold.

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<v Speaker 20>Teese's about thirteen years old, very quiet, reserved little guy,

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<v Speaker 20>and in the last couple of weeks he started growling

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<v Speaker 20>and backing away from his food bowl. Yes, he seems

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<v Speaker 20>to be afraid of it, and she's changed the bowl,

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<v Speaker 20>she's put the bowl in a more lighted area. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 20>he's still doing this. So she's reverted to feeding in

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<v Speaker 20>my hand out of the bowl.

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<v Speaker 9>Now.

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<v Speaker 20>Yeah, but yeah, and I'll said to them, you know,

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<v Speaker 20>I'll give you guys a ring and find it if

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<v Speaker 20>you can maybe explain that.

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<v Speaker 26>Yeah, Look, it's a tricky one, Martin. I guess what

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<v Speaker 26>we do know that you know, whether something has happened,

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<v Speaker 26>whether there was a sound or a movement or a

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<v Speaker 26>taste or whatever, and something has you know, caused the

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<v Speaker 26>dog to have an aversion to that particular type of bowl.

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<v Speaker 26>And I guess you've sort of touched on my first suggestion,

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<v Speaker 26>which sometimes it can actually be the type of bowl

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<v Speaker 26>for whatever reason, the dog just decides that that bowl

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<v Speaker 26>is no longer suitable. You know, if it was a

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<v Speaker 26>stainless steel bowl, then sometimes trialing you know, ceramic bowls

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<v Speaker 26>or glass bowls or plastic bowls, you know, can can

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<v Speaker 26>assist you've done the right thing. In an older dog

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<v Speaker 26>as well, where their vision may not be as good

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<v Speaker 26>as it is. You know, he the dog may sort

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<v Speaker 26>of be seeing something else associated with the bowl or

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<v Speaker 26>in an area the bowls in an area that he

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<v Speaker 26>feels uncomfortable with. So sometimes in his instance, and it

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<v Speaker 26>sounds like your friend is already kind of doing that,

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<v Speaker 26>I suppose I wouldn't be suggesting, you know, sitting there

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<v Speaker 26>hand feeding the dog all the time. But some dogs

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<v Speaker 26>just will not go back to a bowl, and we

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<v Speaker 26>actually do need to feed them on the floor on

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<v Speaker 26>a different surface, So even like a flat plate something

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<v Speaker 26>like that, and in a different area you could try

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<v Speaker 26>does he still eat the food that's being offered, Martin,

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<v Speaker 26>do you know.

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<v Speaker 20>Yes, he's happy with the food. Yeah, the food nothing changed, Yes,

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<v Speaker 20>nothing changed all of a sudden.

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<v Speaker 26>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 20>The sight thing could be because he's he's getting.

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<v Speaker 26>On absolutely and yeah, that's right. And at thirteen there's

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<v Speaker 26>can be changes.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 26>Sometimes cataracts will start to play a player role. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 26>the back of the eye will start to we call

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<v Speaker 26>atrophy and their vision and certainly vision you know, in

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<v Speaker 26>dim lighting can be reduced and he might know his

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<v Speaker 26>food there, he just can't quite sort of see it

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<v Speaker 26>all that well. So a wealthy area and maybe just

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<v Speaker 26>playing around with plates and different sort of surfaces to

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<v Speaker 26>feed him on would be where I would be heading, Martin.

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<v Speaker 20>All right, thank you very much, good.

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<v Speaker 2>Luck, cheers mate, it's nice, yes, fining for a friend,

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<v Speaker 2>ring doctor doctor Kriddle on it. That's good today, Scott.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, guys got maybe the dog's growling because it doesn't

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<v Speaker 13>have cherish in it. But but well, my wife on

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<v Speaker 13>the radio a couple of weeks ago and went out

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<v Speaker 13>and brought a puppy on Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>Because.

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<v Speaker 13>Cool she did.

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<v Speaker 26>What did she get?

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<v Speaker 13>But Cody? We got a little kavood all ships crash. Yes,

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<v Speaker 13>she's very gorgeous. But our Tibetan spaniel, Cody's are taking

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<v Speaker 13>a little while we warm up. So I was just

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<v Speaker 13>after some chips and maybe how long it takes for

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<v Speaker 13>him to get over another dog in the house.

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<v Speaker 26>Yeah, Scott can sometimes take a while. And what we

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<v Speaker 26>have come to know is it really depends on they

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<v Speaker 26>talk about social character, so it really depends on what

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<v Speaker 26>sort of dog Cody is and what sort of dog

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<v Speaker 26>this new puppy is. So probably worth you know, just

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<v Speaker 26>getting some video of both of them and how they

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<v Speaker 26>behave and I can send it to the trainers and

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<v Speaker 26>get some advice for you. But what we do know

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<v Speaker 26>is that you know, there's dogs that are protective in

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<v Speaker 26>the home, there's the decision maker ones as the ones

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<v Speaker 26>that are just pro social and don't really care about much.

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<v Speaker 26>They just sort of make up the numbers. So just

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<v Speaker 26>knowing what sort of personality both of them are will

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<v Speaker 26>then help you in getting them used to each other.

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<v Speaker 26>But the short answer is it will take time and

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<v Speaker 26>just making sure they've both got their own sort of areas,

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<v Speaker 26>sleeping areas, you know, feeding areas, and that Cody's not

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<v Speaker 26>feeling threatened by the new addition. I did it. I

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<v Speaker 26>think you've heard me talk about the two dogs. Did

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<v Speaker 26>it a few couple of years ago. Now, my old boy, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 26>he probably took a good couple of months to really

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<v Speaker 26>come out of his shell and be accepting of the

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<v Speaker 26>new one. They don't sit there and snuggle up on

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<v Speaker 26>the couch together, but they live quite happily and we'll

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<v Speaker 26>sort of have moments of play and stuff. So if

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<v Speaker 26>you want to send me through some videos, I can

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<v Speaker 26>and can probably give you more specific advice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he send him to appreciate it. Yeah, and theyve Scott.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the new one called.

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<v Speaker 7>Mango?

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<v Speaker 2>Mango? Mango mango as in the fruit that's pretty good?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it orange?

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, it's light Brown.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, well Scott, thanks mate, Thanks Scott, Thanks Martin.

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<v Speaker 2>David has sent us a text. We'll come to that

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<v Speaker 2>in just the moments. Eighteen minutes past midday. If you

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<v Speaker 2>like speak to Mel Critle you can from the swan

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<v Speaker 2>Born Vet Center. Our best caller will win a bag

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<v Speaker 2>of Cherish pet food bespoke customized to your pet doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>Mel Critles with us today. If you likes his phone, Mel,

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<v Speaker 2>you can twenty one minutes past midday, Gillian, We'll get

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<v Speaker 2>to you in just a second. David's texted a smell.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got two goldfish are now six years old. The

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<v Speaker 2>one became fish oil under the lemon tree. Six years old.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got them. Didn't imagine this long, and David, it

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<v Speaker 2>can be longer.

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<v Speaker 26>Yes, I was just having a look. What was The

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<v Speaker 26>average age was ten to fifteen years. The longest one

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<v Speaker 26>on record is forty three years, so you could try

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<v Speaker 26>and break that, Simon.

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<v Speaker 2>I amazed to live this long. Yeah, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just sort of it's just there. And when I clean

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<v Speaker 2>the tank once a month, I take it down and

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<v Speaker 2>put it in a really small little jar, and it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't look happy, and then it goes back in and

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<v Speaker 2>there's no trauma, no shock.

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<v Speaker 26>You've got it all, damn pat.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, when you haven't fed it for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>it follows you around the around the room.

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<v Speaker 26>And they're quite cool as Yeah. I had fish for

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<v Speaker 26>a while and that was little. I don't know, there's

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<v Speaker 26>little personalities and yeah, what they behaviors is quite fascinating.

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<v Speaker 4>You see.

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<v Speaker 2>I like freshwater goldfish. Hey Gillian, and thanks for calling.

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<v Speaker 2>And how are you?

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<v Speaker 16>Oh?

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<v Speaker 28>Good morning? Perhaps you all afternoon? Now beautiful rame, we're

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<v Speaker 28>having its fantastic.

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<v Speaker 27>Now.

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<v Speaker 28>I have two lots of questions I've got I've got

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<v Speaker 28>two cockertools, both males, so they're in separate pages. Where

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<v Speaker 28>can I get their wings cut? I used to get

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<v Speaker 28>them cut by friends, but they don't do them now

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<v Speaker 28>stop them one flying all around the house.

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<v Speaker 26>Yeah, you've got to watch out for those ceiling fans

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<v Speaker 26>and whatnot. Jillian. Oh, well, I could do a shame

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<v Speaker 26>plug as well. And so you could bring them to

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<v Speaker 26>Swanborne Vet and we will will trim them for you.

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<v Speaker 26>But any any local veteriny clinic, Jillian will be able

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<v Speaker 26>to do a wing clip for you. I understand some

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<v Speaker 26>of the there was a bed center I think in Balcata,

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<v Speaker 26>and I needn't know that they used to do wing

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<v Speaker 26>clipping and what not to. But I suppose from my

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<v Speaker 26>point of your Jillian, I'm only really familiar with Yeah,

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<v Speaker 26>us vets, vets doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do you live in Woodville?

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<v Speaker 28>Yeah, yes, I live in Woodville, So I need somewhere

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<v Speaker 28>up this way. I used to take them to Hillis,

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<v Speaker 28>but the lady went to Bewcata. She used to do

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<v Speaker 28>their wings their nails free.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, might be too might be too far for you.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's a bird place in the Swan Valley. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's called.

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<v Speaker 28>That's a long way for me to know.

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<v Speaker 26>Yeah, okay, I would honestly and look at some local

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<v Speaker 26>Yeah whatever the closest a couple of vets are to you.

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<v Speaker 28>Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. Can I ask

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<v Speaker 28>him some other questions about my daughter? My daughter's got

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<v Speaker 28>five rescue cats, had them on and off for about

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<v Speaker 28>ten years. One was a feral cat on our baby.

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<v Speaker 28>The feral mom she's gone deaf denile. She's never been

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<v Speaker 28>out since my daughter had They've got a big cat pen,

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<v Speaker 28>great big cat pen for them all to go in.

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<v Speaker 28>But this this sni one she's got dementia. I think

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<v Speaker 28>she wants to go outside in there and just lays

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<v Speaker 28>in the grass all day long or under the bushes.

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<v Speaker 28>She doesn't go to get out of the house or

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<v Speaker 28>out of the garden anywhere. Yes, but why did they

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<v Speaker 28>do that? So she's going back to her where she

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<v Speaker 28>used to live out in the bush.

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<v Speaker 26>Yeah, I mean, you know, as they get older, and

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<v Speaker 26>certainly if that cognitive function isn't as good as they

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<v Speaker 26>used to, you know, we often find that they will,

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<v Speaker 26>you know, sleep twenty two hours a day and really

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<v Speaker 26>only get up to eat and go to the toilet,

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<v Speaker 26>and then they're back to sleep again. And I found

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<v Speaker 26>with my boy as he got older, he really he

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<v Speaker 26>had his spots that he would love and he'd sort

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<v Speaker 26>of just shift around through them. You know, someoneould be

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<v Speaker 26>in the sun and he'd you know, he'd find a

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<v Speaker 26>grassy area to sort of snuggle up in. And I

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<v Speaker 26>guess they as again, as their cognitive function reduces, they

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<v Speaker 26>really sort of just become set in a routine and

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<v Speaker 26>it's a bit of a pattern. So as long as

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<v Speaker 26>she's still eating and drinking and toileting, all right, Jillian

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<v Speaker 26>and I wouldn't be too worried about that.

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<v Speaker 28>You know, in terms of quality of life, my daughter

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<v Speaker 28>had Skip giving her these tablets to the core eat.

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<v Speaker 28>Then she wanders all around the house at night. But

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<v Speaker 28>she was a fairer part. She's about sixteen or seventeen

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<v Speaker 28>the vet. But now she sleeps in that bed with

2:17:45.080 --> 2:17:46.800
<v Speaker 28>the bed with them more than the other plants.

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<v Speaker 26>Yeah, it's funny how their behavior changes as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, thanks Jillian, thanks for your cool good

2:17:52.920 --> 2:17:57.480
<v Speaker 2>luck with getting cockertils wings trimmed. There is did you

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<v Speaker 2>say there was a wood a veting woodwell and tops

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<v Speaker 2>there's a doctor Todd at Woodvale does birds. We think, Jillian,

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<v Speaker 2>so doctor Todd at Woodvale. Thank you. This one here

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<v Speaker 2>from Michael Gooday, Simon and mel what's your opinion mail

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<v Speaker 2>on Foresight, which is the numeral for and then cyte supplements.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you and I've talked about this before. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>a dog in its left leg vectors to try these supplements.

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<v Speaker 2>We couldn't afford the expensive surgery.

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<v Speaker 26>Yes, I really like Foresight, so it's one of the

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<v Speaker 26>ones that we do. There's lots of product joint supplement

2:18:26.560 --> 2:18:28.440
<v Speaker 26>products out there on the market, but Foresight is one

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<v Speaker 26>we do keep in the clinic at Swanbourne. It's got

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<v Speaker 26>a marine plant extract in it called Epitalis, and I

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<v Speaker 26>guess I like it because there are actually studies behind

2:18:37.320 --> 2:18:40.080
<v Speaker 26>it to show that it does help with cartilage regeneration

2:18:40.400 --> 2:18:42.360
<v Speaker 26>and that sort of thing too. So it comes in

2:18:42.480 --> 2:18:46.920
<v Speaker 26>there's granules for sort of chronic arthritis management and then

2:18:46.959 --> 2:18:51.200
<v Speaker 26>there's a gel formation of formulation. Sorry that is for

2:18:51.320 --> 2:18:55.720
<v Speaker 26>sort of acute injuries. So quite often we will have

2:18:55.920 --> 2:18:59.280
<v Speaker 26>patients on one or other of them for whatever sort

2:18:59.320 --> 2:19:01.600
<v Speaker 26>of condition were trying. But yeah, I really like the foresight,

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<v Speaker 26>so highly recommended.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to get it through your ved.

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<v Speaker 26>Yeah, it is over the counter, so it's one. Yeah

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<v Speaker 26>that's over the counter. But yeah, we stuck it at

2:19:09.200 --> 2:19:09.680
<v Speaker 26>the clinics.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah all right, thanks Michael, well answered Melworld done. One

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<v Speaker 2>of our listeners reckons, I don't know if this has

2:19:14.959 --> 2:19:17.600
<v Speaker 2>got a name on it. We had a goldfish born

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<v Speaker 2>in their pond that lived for twelve years. Thank you

2:19:20.440 --> 2:19:24.840
<v Speaker 2>to that correspondent. A bit of gastro around for domin.

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<v Speaker 26>You have seen a lot of gastro and in chatting

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<v Speaker 26>with one of the emergency centers earlier this week as well,

2:19:31.160 --> 2:19:35.840
<v Speaker 26>because we were so busy I couldn't accept anymore. They've

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<v Speaker 26>had the same thing, so it's interesting. It's sort of

2:19:40.080 --> 2:19:43.120
<v Speaker 26>and I was chatting to Sean when I arrived. You know,

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<v Speaker 26>parvovirus this time of year is just something to be

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<v Speaker 26>aware of. It's a virus that is highly resistant in

2:19:49.200 --> 2:19:52.280
<v Speaker 26>the environment. So with this rain coming it will stay

2:19:52.280 --> 2:19:55.000
<v Speaker 26>in the environment for attating in soiled milk. Yeah, so

2:19:55.120 --> 2:19:57.200
<v Speaker 26>it's possibly been covered by the soil and then the

2:19:57.280 --> 2:19:59.520
<v Speaker 26>rains will wash it away and expose it. So just

2:19:59.560 --> 2:20:01.920
<v Speaker 26>a remind to everyone to make sure that your dog

2:20:02.040 --> 2:20:04.480
<v Speaker 26>is up to date with its paravo virus vaccination. But

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<v Speaker 26>I guess at Swanborne we haven't so much seen pavo.

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<v Speaker 26>It's just gas stros vomiting, diarrhea, but a lot of

2:20:11.240 --> 2:20:13.960
<v Speaker 26>them have been unwell enough to warrant, yeah, needing to

2:20:14.040 --> 2:20:17.040
<v Speaker 26>be in hospital on drips and just the additional supportive care.

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<v Speaker 26>So something is we're seeing a bit of a run

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<v Speaker 26>of that at the clinic at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Puppy's getting oculated against paro, don't they atute.

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<v Speaker 26>Lately, So we do a most vets do a three

2:20:26.160 --> 2:20:29.360
<v Speaker 26>vaccination protocol to really kick start that immunity and then

2:20:29.600 --> 2:20:32.240
<v Speaker 26>it's they have an adult booster of it, and then

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<v Speaker 26>it's most vaccines, it's every three years to continue with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know it's in soil mill. What is it

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<v Speaker 2>a Is it a little bug? Is it like as

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<v Speaker 2>a virus?

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<v Speaker 26>So viral particles? Yeah, so the virus is shed. So

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<v Speaker 26>you know, the dog with PAVO that went to the

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<v Speaker 26>park had a bit of diarrhea, shed the viral particles

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<v Speaker 26>in that stool, and then that just sits there in

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<v Speaker 26>the environment. Yeah, resistant before it sort of eventually breaks down.

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<v Speaker 26>But it doesn't have to be living in a host

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<v Speaker 26>to sit there. So this is where the next you know,

2:21:04.320 --> 2:21:06.560
<v Speaker 26>innocent dog comes along, has a bit of a sniff

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<v Speaker 26>where a dog might have passed a year ago, and

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<v Speaker 26>and potentially you know ingests these these viral particles and then.

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<v Speaker 2>To pass on through fecal matter.

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<v Speaker 26>Yeah, so fecal oral doesn't that sound delicious?

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<v Speaker 2>Dust? Sure? I'm looking forward to. Yes, today's Continental roles.

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<v Speaker 2>Our winner today of the bag of cherish is not

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<v Speaker 2>Scott who's the who's the new owner of Mango and

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<v Speaker 2>the old owner of Cody because got works of cherish

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<v Speaker 2>so he can't win it. But Martin, who ranging about

2:21:38.760 --> 2:21:40.880
<v Speaker 2>his friend's dogs scared of their food ball. We've got

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<v Speaker 2>some cherish coming out your way, mate, So yeah, thanks

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<v Speaker 2>thanks to Scott trying to win his own product. Yeah

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<v Speaker 2>all right, Heyl, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 26>You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Give Tony carle for us. Do you still have that

2:21:52.240 --> 2:21:54.560
<v Speaker 2>vet working with you? Who's the mad Collingwood support? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Leah Leah, she's still with us.

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<v Speaker 26>Yeah. So they've got Hawthorn this week, so that'll be interesting.

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<v Speaker 24>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 26>No, she's having a great year this year. So we

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<v Speaker 26>don't talk about football.

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<v Speaker 2>Much being West coast, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 26>Avoid those conversations.

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<v Speaker 2>Bruce's here, Bruce to watch Origin Game one last night.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course I did absolutely enjoy it. Yes, and no

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<v Speaker 2>one sided, but still a good game, wasn't it. It

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<v Speaker 2>was you sort of.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm always concerned with Origin because they tend to put

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<v Speaker 5>the best players out there, and the best players try

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<v Speaker 5>to win the game every time. So I thought New

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<v Speaker 5>South Wales will one up all the time, where at

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<v Speaker 5>least Queensland threw it around. I thought he's a better

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<v Speaker 5>flowing game from Queensland.

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<v Speaker 36>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Still, good boy, he's got across and we won.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy Trell Mitchell he's a man. He's anything happened there,

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely anything. You never know whether he's going to jump

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<v Speaker 2>in the crowd and punch on with the spectators or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever he's going to do. Mel. Thank you, lucky to

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<v Speaker 2>have you on the show and I look forward to

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<v Speaker 2>seeing you in a fortnite.

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<v Speaker 26>Sounds good.

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<v Speaker 2>But on doctor Melkriddle from the Swan born vets End

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<v Speaker 2>is still to come on the show. Steve Kilby, they

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<v Speaker 2>say again Kilby, not Gilby, mister bell, I can't remember

2:23:03.120 --> 2:23:05.720
<v Speaker 2>it saying it. I was under the pump. Steve Kilby

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<v Speaker 2>will join us after twelve thirty. So he's playing tonight

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<v Speaker 2>at the Milk Bar, which is in Mount Lorly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but what's the old civy? Yeah, the old Civy and

2:23:15.800 --> 2:23:17.920
<v Speaker 2>he's going it's quite an unusual show. He's got a

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<v Speaker 2>string enseball and a few special guests. But he will

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<v Speaker 2>be playing some church stuff as well. There's a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of go between. It's a bit of church stuff. But

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Kilby will join us on the phone in a

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<v Speaker 2>just a minute, as will ow unclear. We'll have a

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<v Speaker 2>look at the stock market hop us twelve looking good

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<v Speaker 2>out there at the moment.

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<v Speaker 5>No DeLay's on the Mitchell Kranana, Graham Farmer and the

2:23:44.959 --> 2:23:47.120
<v Speaker 5>North Bridge Tunnel also good run through the city and

2:23:47.200 --> 2:23:49.560
<v Speaker 5>the metro area. If it is where, please drive to

2:23:49.640 --> 2:23:52.560
<v Speaker 5>the conditions, give yourself an extra breaking distance and more

2:23:52.600 --> 2:23:54.320
<v Speaker 5>time to get to where you're going, and also keep

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<v Speaker 5>in mind double the mirror points in play for the

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<v Speaker 5>wa long weekend. This evening starts at midnight right through

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<v Speaker 5>until Monday, the second of June. I'm Bruce wallsh On

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<v Speaker 5>Perth Traffic Leader six PR.

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<v Speaker 2>Running a pole today. Do you think this is curtains

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<v Speaker 2>for the Woodside protesters?

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<v Speaker 9>Yes? Or no?

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<v Speaker 2>Jacko hijacko. He says no. They will never stop their protest.

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<v Speaker 2>We are keeping a poll today and we'll keep it

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<v Speaker 2>tally through until right through until one o'clock. It's twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four minutes to one o'clock. Let's take pause. Let's go

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<v Speaker 2>to our newsroom here at six PR. John Nichols, good afternoon,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Simon, Good afternoon. A man has died after the scooter

2:24:29.320 --> 2:24:31.640
<v Speaker 3>he was riding was hit by a truck in Perth South.

2:24:31.720 --> 2:24:34.400
<v Speaker 3>That happened just after half past ten last night at

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<v Speaker 3>the intersection of Canning and Sterling Highways in East Premattle

2:24:37.600 --> 2:24:40.720
<v Speaker 3>and police are looking for witnesses. Police are also seeking

2:24:40.800 --> 2:24:43.480
<v Speaker 3>information about the whereabouts of a fifty two year old

2:24:43.560 --> 2:24:46.320
<v Speaker 3>Perth man who's now been missing for almost three weeks.

2:24:46.959 --> 2:24:50.160
<v Speaker 3>Paul Michael Lamp's last known location was at a cal

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<v Speaker 3>Gooley business on the tenth of this month. Please believe

2:24:52.920 --> 2:24:56.440
<v Speaker 3>he may have been traveling to Coolgardi that afternoon. A

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<v Speaker 3>high end e bike has been recalled because it's batter

2:25:00.120 --> 2:25:03.080
<v Speaker 3>short circuit and cause of fire. The recall affects the

2:25:03.240 --> 2:25:07.000
<v Speaker 3>Santa Cruz Heckler nine with interchangeable seven hundred and twenty

2:25:07.080 --> 2:25:12.280
<v Speaker 3>whatt lithium iron batteries. In tennis, Alexi Poppron has described

2:25:12.320 --> 2:25:14.560
<v Speaker 3>his latest win at the French Open as the most

2:25:14.680 --> 2:25:18.080
<v Speaker 3>solid match he's played all year. The Australian twenty fifth

2:25:18.120 --> 2:25:20.720
<v Speaker 3>seed advances to the third round at Roland Garriss for

2:25:20.800 --> 2:25:24.960
<v Speaker 3>the first time. You'll now face Nuno Borges. Twenty degrees

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<v Speaker 3>at the moment. Showers increasing today with the chance of

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<v Speaker 3>a late storm, down to thirteen overnight showers and twenty

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<v Speaker 3>three tomorrow with a thunderstorm likely.

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<v Speaker 2>More news at one. Thank you very much, John, Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for all of that. It's twenty two twenty two minutes

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<v Speaker 2>to one o'clock. We're going to talk to Steve Kilby. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Kilby's in Perth, former front man of the Church,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, is tricky. He's never talked to stell Steve

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<v Speaker 2>Kilby without mentioning the Church. And he's got a nice

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<v Speaker 2>little show tonight at the Milk Bar, which is in Inglewood,

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<v Speaker 2>the former Civic Hotel, and Steve Kilby is about to

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<v Speaker 2>join us.

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<v Speaker 8>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I know these are old songs. I know these albums

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<v Speaker 2>go back to the nineteen eighties. But I hope you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope Steve doesn't mind me playing that thumping bassline. We

2:26:07.959 --> 2:26:09.720
<v Speaker 2>talked to him before he does playing the bass because

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<v Speaker 2>all the dust falls out of the roof and the

2:26:11.720 --> 2:26:15.120
<v Speaker 2>whole building shakes. But he's here, and this show is

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<v Speaker 2>called Jack Frost and Grant mcclennan and me. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>you to introduce Steve. Do you play under the milky Wade?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you play unguarded moment? I've chosen this one. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>when you were mine. Now, I used to own a

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<v Speaker 2>hold in HQ. I used to play that at eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to play that at eleven every single time

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<v Speaker 2>I was in. Steve Kilby joins us right now today, Steve,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you hey?

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<v Speaker 39>How are you good?

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<v Speaker 2>Mate? Welcome back to Perth.

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<v Speaker 39>Yep, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, tell us about this show tonight, because it's a

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<v Speaker 2>show with a bit of a difference, isn't it it is?

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<v Speaker 39>I'm looking In nineteen ninety one and then again in

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<v Speaker 39>nineteen ninety four, Grant mcclennan and I made two albums

2:27:06.520 --> 2:27:10.800
<v Speaker 39>together and they've just been re released after all these

2:27:10.959 --> 2:27:15.640
<v Speaker 39>years by a record company in England. And I've got

2:27:15.680 --> 2:27:20.879
<v Speaker 39>this wonderful bunch of Perth musicians. We've been doing this tour.

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<v Speaker 39>We did it in Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane and tonight

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<v Speaker 39>is the last night and it's in Perth and we're

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<v Speaker 39>really all playing well. We've got a cello and a violinist,

2:27:34.200 --> 2:27:39.119
<v Speaker 39>we've got two guitarists, a keyboard player and two drummers

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<v Speaker 39>and me. It's a cast of thousands and we're doing

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<v Speaker 39>we're doing Jack Frost, the first album in its entirety,

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<v Speaker 39>and then we're coming back and we're doing Go Betweens

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<v Speaker 39>and Church Numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah nice, that sounds amazing, so ans Rachel Equallenroola no

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<v Speaker 2>violin Yeah, it's a typo on my machine.

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<v Speaker 39>It's nothing to us, but to them it's the whole world.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just this sheet. Hey, what's the set list look like?

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<v Speaker 2>How does it comprise this evening?

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<v Speaker 39>Well, didn't I just say that Jack Frost? The first

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<v Speaker 39>set we're doing the Jack Frost in its entirety, and

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<v Speaker 39>then the second set we have a little break, and

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<v Speaker 39>then the second set is church and go between snumbers

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<v Speaker 39>rearranged for this particular ensemble, and they all really come

2:28:39.840 --> 2:28:42.920
<v Speaker 39>to life so much. It's amazing what the cello and

2:28:43.000 --> 2:28:48.680
<v Speaker 39>the violin add and these players are like wonderful West

2:28:48.720 --> 2:28:52.080
<v Speaker 39>Australian musicians, and they're all they're all just doing it.

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<v Speaker 39>You know, not a hell lot of money in this,

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<v Speaker 39>they're just doing it for the because they love. It's

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<v Speaker 39>a labor of love, and there's a beautiful it's a

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<v Speaker 39>beautiful thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You did explain to me already?

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<v Speaker 9>What what what?

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<v Speaker 2>What it comes from? What's the How do you get

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<v Speaker 2>to rehearse mate with this ensemble?

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<v Speaker 39>Well, we rehearsed in Melbourne. We turned up and rehearsed

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<v Speaker 39>for two days in Melbourne and then we did the

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<v Speaker 39>first show in Brunswick. In Melbourne, so and look, we

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<v Speaker 39>did do this so once before in Perth, so it's

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<v Speaker 39>kind of we semi kind of knew what we were

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<v Speaker 39>going to do anyway, but it's really picked up momentum,

2:29:29.080 --> 2:29:32.359
<v Speaker 39>you know, playing in Sydney and Melbourne and then Brisbane,

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<v Speaker 39>the show just seemed to it just seems such a shame.

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<v Speaker 39>I wish I wish we were doing going to be

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<v Speaker 39>doing it more. And you know, Grant and I never

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<v Speaker 39>got to do this show, play these songs properly with

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<v Speaker 39>an acoustic show where we played them acoustically, but we

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<v Speaker 39>never we never played them with a whole electric band

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<v Speaker 39>and with the with the strings and everything. So it's

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<v Speaker 39>I don't know, it brings back a lot of beautiful memories.

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<v Speaker 39>And and you know we do the we do the

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<v Speaker 39>go between songs pretty faithfully as well. So if you

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<v Speaker 39>if you, if you're a big fan of the Gobies,

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<v Speaker 39>I think we do some pretty good versions. We've got

2:30:12.640 --> 2:30:17.520
<v Speaker 39>this wonderful player, Adrian Hoffman, local a local guy. He

2:30:17.640 --> 2:30:22.320
<v Speaker 39>plays guitar and he's the singer and he he's channeling

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<v Speaker 39>Grant when he sings. It's like a lot of people

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<v Speaker 39>have said to me, you know, you close your eyes

2:30:27.360 --> 2:30:32.400
<v Speaker 39>and it's Grant singing nice. So it's a it's a lovely,

2:30:32.760 --> 2:30:36.480
<v Speaker 39>lovely night of sort of nostalgic looking back at you know,

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<v Speaker 39>me and what Grant and I did, and then what

2:30:40.360 --> 2:30:43.119
<v Speaker 39>Grant did in the go between. Yes, I know, it's

2:30:43.280 --> 2:30:45.360
<v Speaker 39>kind of a it's a really lovely show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, You've always been a creative You've always been you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's always you know, from my understanding and having seen

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<v Speaker 2>your heaps of times, you've always been a creative bloke.

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<v Speaker 2>And this sounds like the ultimate creative endeavor. Bringing musicians

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<v Speaker 2>together just for these sessions and and reworking and rebooting

2:31:02.879 --> 2:31:05.320
<v Speaker 2>some old material must be it must be cool to

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<v Speaker 2>play it live.

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<v Speaker 7>It really is.

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<v Speaker 39>It's it's made me very happy. It's strange, you know,

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<v Speaker 39>like I do a lot of shows with the Church,

2:31:15.200 --> 2:31:18.040
<v Speaker 39>and you know, the Church about to go to America

2:31:18.120 --> 2:31:20.680
<v Speaker 39>and do thirty shows, and then later on in the

2:31:20.760 --> 2:31:23.200
<v Speaker 39>year we're coming back and we're doing this huge store

2:31:23.760 --> 2:31:28.240
<v Speaker 39>and there's a certain satisfaction and excellence that the Church

2:31:28.400 --> 2:31:33.400
<v Speaker 39>do and professionalism. But with this little gang of people,

2:31:33.600 --> 2:31:39.480
<v Speaker 39>these these musicians, it's something really special. It's quite I

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<v Speaker 39>don't know, and I'm not you know, everybody knows I'm

2:31:42.200 --> 2:31:45.320
<v Speaker 39>a bit of a cynical old sod, but like, no,

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<v Speaker 39>it's very moving for me, and I feel like I

2:31:49.959 --> 2:31:53.440
<v Speaker 39>feel Grant somewhere out there in the ether looking on

2:31:54.040 --> 2:31:59.640
<v Speaker 39>and approving of this and loving what we're doing. So yeah,

2:31:59.720 --> 2:32:02.600
<v Speaker 39>it's not just it's not just your usual old rock

2:32:02.640 --> 2:32:06.400
<v Speaker 39>and roll thing. This it's a really it's a lot

2:32:06.440 --> 2:32:07.359
<v Speaker 39>of love involved.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, makes sure it makes you think of your mate. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>so we've got some tickets available tonight Steve, haven't we

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<v Speaker 2>And it's at the the Milk Bar, but he's actually

2:32:17.320 --> 2:32:19.720
<v Speaker 2>inside the Civic Hotel, isn't it. So it's a it's

2:32:19.760 --> 2:32:22.760
<v Speaker 2>a ripping venue and perfect for a show, for a

2:32:22.959 --> 2:32:24.240
<v Speaker 2>show like you see, Steve.

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<v Speaker 8>Are you in?

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<v Speaker 2>I know you mentioned the synthesism and you're nice and

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<v Speaker 2>chatty with us today. Are you having a chat in between?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you reminiscing and chatting to the crowd?

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<v Speaker 27>Oh?

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<v Speaker 39>Oh yeah, all the songs have come come with a chat. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 39>I'm telling the whole story, and I yes, misty eyed,

2:32:46.200 --> 2:32:50.119
<v Speaker 39>rose colored glasses. It's very hard to talk about Grant

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<v Speaker 39>without getting all nostalgia. You know, he left us, He

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<v Speaker 39>left us in two thousand and seventy was only like

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<v Speaker 39>forty five or something. Yep, and so much more he

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<v Speaker 39>could have done and like he was my w It's

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<v Speaker 39>no exaggeration say he was the best friend I ever had.

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<v Speaker 39>And we we put a lot of love into our

2:33:13.600 --> 2:33:18.000
<v Speaker 39>records and this band and only made possible by Adrian

2:33:18.879 --> 2:33:21.920
<v Speaker 39>Adrian Hoffman's wonderful singing that.

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<v Speaker 30>He that he can he can sound just.

2:33:25.840 --> 2:33:29.480
<v Speaker 39>Like Grant and play guitar just like Grant, and that's

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<v Speaker 39>that's that's the only reason it's even possible to do

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<v Speaker 39>these shows, because the Grant sort of component is there.

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<v Speaker 2>I spoke to Mark mcintie a couple of years ago, Steve,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, from the the Vinyls, and he talked about

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<v Speaker 2>losing his best mate.

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<v Speaker 13>It must be.

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<v Speaker 2>It must be. I mean, we're all getting older and

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<v Speaker 2>the songs always remind us, but it must be difficult

2:33:49.320 --> 2:33:52.800
<v Speaker 2>sometimes that it does bring up such strong feelings and memories,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's what music does, right.

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<v Speaker 39>That's exactly what music does. It's that's exactly what it does.

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<v Speaker 39>So yeah, I get quite misty up there, I believe me.

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<v Speaker 2>And I did want to mention that the chatting between

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<v Speaker 2>songs I reckon all you guys who've been around for

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<v Speaker 2>a while through the countdown here and whatever. It's it's

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<v Speaker 2>a really nice refreshing thing for you know, when we

2:34:18.480 --> 2:34:19.440
<v Speaker 2>used to go and see you when you were a

2:34:19.480 --> 2:34:24.240
<v Speaker 2>rockcord you didn't talk to us all that much. But

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<v Speaker 2>may you do, which is good. We love it.

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<v Speaker 39>Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, yep, there'll be a lot of

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<v Speaker 39>there'll be a lot of talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, all right mate, always nice to chat to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having a chat to our crowd tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll get we'll try and get some listeners along.

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<v Speaker 39>Hey, that would be fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thanks, the good one, go well tonight, Thank you, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, bye, see mate. Steve Kilby from a front

2:34:46.360 --> 2:34:49.400
<v Speaker 2>man of the Church and of course a mates with

2:34:50.560 --> 2:34:52.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, mates with his Mark Grant from the from

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<v Speaker 2>the Go Betweens the gobe as he said, Grant McLennan

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<v Speaker 2>and the sleeve. The actor is called Jack Frost. Grant

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<v Speaker 2>McLennan and me. Their tickets still a veil Ball. General

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<v Speaker 2>admission is around about sixty bucks, but you're getting a

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<v Speaker 2>full You're getting a full seven piece band including a

2:35:05.680 --> 2:35:08.800
<v Speaker 2>callo of violin and a ripping band as well.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is.

2:35:11.120 --> 2:35:15.480
<v Speaker 2>In Maylands tonight at the Milk Bar. Now he's been

2:35:15.600 --> 2:35:18.040
<v Speaker 2>very patient, Brian, Brian going to talk to you in

2:35:18.160 --> 2:35:21.000
<v Speaker 2>just a second, mate, we'll get you back in just

2:35:21.040 --> 2:35:23.200
<v Speaker 2>a second. We've got two double passes to the show tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Two double pass to the show night. Call me if

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<v Speaker 2>you've seen the church when? Where?

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<v Speaker 13>What was it?

2:35:28.000 --> 2:35:28.040
<v Speaker 9>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon the church played at the Entertainment Center. It

2:35:31.520 --> 2:35:34.400
<v Speaker 2>is nine dollars ninety six and that will probably remind

2:35:34.440 --> 2:35:37.160
<v Speaker 2>you probably to giveway as to who the radio station

2:35:37.280 --> 2:35:40.160
<v Speaker 2>were that sponsor it. Nine dollars ninety six, moving pittures

2:35:41.200 --> 2:35:45.440
<v Speaker 2>church and Australian crawl. How good is that? Thirteen to

2:35:45.520 --> 2:35:47.480
<v Speaker 2>one give us a call one double three eight euty two.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a church memory. Call us and you could

2:35:49.640 --> 2:35:53.000
<v Speaker 2>win a double pass aga and see the show tonight

2:35:53.200 --> 2:35:57.000
<v Speaker 2>at the milk Bar at the Civic good I JB

2:35:57.280 --> 2:35:59.400
<v Speaker 2>JB's a golfan, he said, what a six pr mentioning

2:35:59.440 --> 2:36:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Hannah Green on the news with one major, not Minji

2:36:01.920 --> 2:36:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Lee with two? Just in should dab not sure? This

2:36:05.920 --> 2:36:09.600
<v Speaker 2>is the Erin Hills Golf Course tournament details May twenty

2:36:09.640 --> 2:36:12.080
<v Speaker 2>nights to June the first, So yeah, Hannah Green w

2:36:12.240 --> 2:36:15.240
<v Speaker 2>a product coach by Richie Smith as we know, as

2:36:15.320 --> 2:36:16.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, but so a Minji is in the field

2:36:16.840 --> 2:36:19.840
<v Speaker 2>as well. Mate. It's a massive field, incredible number of players.

2:36:20.920 --> 2:36:23.080
<v Speaker 2>Hannah Green ranked eighth in the world I think in

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<v Speaker 2>the l G e.

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<v Speaker 27>P A.

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<v Speaker 2>But certainly Minji lee On is on the start list

2:36:28.200 --> 2:36:30.440
<v Speaker 2>as well. One double, thank you mate, One double three

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<v Speaker 2>a day.

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<v Speaker 9>Two.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have a story about the church? About going

2:36:33.480 --> 2:36:34.760
<v Speaker 2>to see the church. We've got a couple of couple

2:36:34.800 --> 2:36:37.160
<v Speaker 2>of double passes the give away to the show at

2:36:37.200 --> 2:36:41.040
<v Speaker 2>the milk Bart tonight at the Civic. Gooday, Eric, Oh,

2:36:41.120 --> 2:36:41.720
<v Speaker 2>get a Simon.

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<v Speaker 33>How are you going?

2:36:42.360 --> 2:36:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Good mate? What's your story?

2:36:44.120 --> 2:36:44.280
<v Speaker 13>Good?

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<v Speaker 39>Ah?

2:36:45.000 --> 2:36:45.200
<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

2:36:45.280 --> 2:36:49.360
<v Speaker 33>Myst mate and I in about nineteen eighty two. I'm

2:36:49.360 --> 2:36:50.039
<v Speaker 33>trying to think what you.

2:36:50.160 --> 2:36:50.600
<v Speaker 4>Would have been.

2:36:51.240 --> 2:36:54.320
<v Speaker 33>We worked in Albany and we drove up on a

2:36:54.360 --> 2:36:57.800
<v Speaker 33>Friday night. We left Albany past five to go and

2:36:57.879 --> 2:37:00.440
<v Speaker 33>see the church at a club.

2:37:00.480 --> 2:37:01.320
<v Speaker 4>It was in town.

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<v Speaker 33>I can't remember. It was all I remembers.

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<v Speaker 39>We had to go upstairs and.

2:37:04.920 --> 2:37:08.680
<v Speaker 33>We were only about nineteen eighteen or nineteen, and we

2:37:08.800 --> 2:37:10.520
<v Speaker 33>got up there and I was setting up and I

2:37:10.600 --> 2:37:13.000
<v Speaker 33>took them as to sett and I don't know whether

2:37:13.000 --> 2:37:16.120
<v Speaker 33>other boys were having them muck around backstage or something whatever.

2:37:16.400 --> 2:37:17.840
<v Speaker 33>So by the time they got on to play, my

2:37:17.920 --> 2:37:20.680
<v Speaker 33>mate and I were just about to sleep after all

2:37:20.680 --> 2:37:25.560
<v Speaker 33>the way from Anyway. And then unfortunately I asked my

2:37:25.680 --> 2:37:29.360
<v Speaker 33>mate in twenty eleven and I was given the honor

2:37:29.400 --> 2:37:32.680
<v Speaker 33>of choosing a song for when we were coming into

2:37:32.760 --> 2:37:38.280
<v Speaker 33>the chapel at the cemetery. And yeah, so Under the

2:37:38.360 --> 2:37:44.160
<v Speaker 33>Milky Way Tonight was played as he was walked into theory.

2:37:44.520 --> 2:37:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's nice, mate, that's nice. What was your mate's

2:37:49.000 --> 2:37:50.080
<v Speaker 2>Perry Perry?

2:37:50.400 --> 2:37:53.400
<v Speaker 33>Yeah, and he had a green box wag and beetle

2:37:53.520 --> 2:37:57.480
<v Speaker 33>and we drove all the away from Anyway. We've got

2:37:57.520 --> 2:37:58.879
<v Speaker 33>to leave them play, that was the main thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So you may know this, or Rusty Collette may

2:38:03.200 --> 2:38:05.080
<v Speaker 2>know this because he's a feeling in for Oli this afternoon.

2:38:05.120 --> 2:38:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Who's a big, big crook? Was Under the Milky Way

2:38:07.680 --> 2:38:10.240
<v Speaker 2>was later, wasn't it? Because eighty eighty one was the

2:38:10.440 --> 2:38:12.240
<v Speaker 2>first couple of albums was and I think Under Milky

2:38:12.280 --> 2:38:12.760
<v Speaker 2>Way came.

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<v Speaker 33>Yeah, it would have done. Yeah, yeah, I just can't remembering. Yeah,

2:38:17.959 --> 2:38:18.720
<v Speaker 33>I don't think Under.

2:38:18.560 --> 2:38:19.039
<v Speaker 20>The Milk.

2:38:20.400 --> 2:38:25.240
<v Speaker 33>In the early eighties, but yeah, twenty eleven. That's sour

2:38:25.480 --> 2:38:26.200
<v Speaker 33>yea man.

2:38:26.280 --> 2:38:27.600
<v Speaker 2>If you want to go tonight, I will put you

2:38:27.640 --> 2:38:29.040
<v Speaker 2>back to Sean and Am. If you do want to

2:38:29.040 --> 2:38:30.520
<v Speaker 2>go tonight, we've got a couple of tickets we can

2:38:30.959 --> 2:38:32.680
<v Speaker 2>give give to Where do you live now? Mate?

2:38:33.920 --> 2:38:36.640
<v Speaker 33>I leave about four hundred meters from the Suvier Hotel.

2:38:36.720 --> 2:38:37.480
<v Speaker 2>I reckon you should go?

2:38:39.280 --> 2:38:40.480
<v Speaker 33>Well, I was going to I was thinking that I

2:38:40.560 --> 2:38:41.360
<v Speaker 33>was going to go anyway.

2:38:41.440 --> 2:38:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I reckon you should go. I'll put you

2:38:43.000 --> 2:38:45.080
<v Speaker 2>back to Sean Ann and we'll send the get the

2:38:45.160 --> 2:38:48.480
<v Speaker 2>tickets out to your pronto. Mate. We'll make sure you

2:38:48.520 --> 2:38:50.480
<v Speaker 2>get to enjoy the show. Hey, and give us a

2:38:50.480 --> 2:38:51.720
<v Speaker 2>shout tomorrow. Tell us how he goes?

2:38:52.600 --> 2:38:53.959
<v Speaker 33>Okay, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks mate. Have you got the tune there? Max? How

2:38:56.320 --> 2:38:58.680
<v Speaker 2>good is this song? Hello? Rusty? How here you good?

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<v Speaker 36>Sometimes?

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<v Speaker 2>And this class gets come?

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<v Speaker 39>Yeah, let's see.

2:39:16.320 --> 2:39:19.720
<v Speaker 2>I think Rolling Stone magazine said best the Australian song

2:39:19.760 --> 2:39:21.560
<v Speaker 2>of the last thirty years a few years ago. I

2:39:21.640 --> 2:39:23.959
<v Speaker 2>probably grew pretty good, man. It's a classic.

2:39:24.040 --> 2:39:25.920
<v Speaker 40>And guess rising.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just talking to your producers and a little pub somewhere.

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<v Speaker 40>No, no better still, I said to your producers. I said,

2:39:32.520 --> 2:39:34.840
<v Speaker 40>I saw them live and they said we're about I said, wait,

2:39:35.800 --> 2:39:36.600
<v Speaker 40>I said, what's.

2:39:36.440 --> 2:39:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Weight w our Institute of Technology, Thank you sis. I

2:39:39.600 --> 2:39:41.920
<v Speaker 2>went one year until the MAT's got a bit hard

2:39:41.959 --> 2:39:44.800
<v Speaker 2>in engineering. Then I went did a phyzed degree. They

2:39:44.920 --> 2:39:47.160
<v Speaker 2>used to do some great bands that they did me.

2:39:47.320 --> 2:39:47.800
<v Speaker 34>I saw that.

2:39:49.440 --> 2:39:50.720
<v Speaker 40>Who was Hannahs and Collectors?

2:39:51.640 --> 2:39:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Wait, yeah, wait, look at you go? How are you?

2:39:54.600 --> 2:39:57.560
<v Speaker 2>How are you? Mate? Really good? Olie's beet Crooks. So

2:39:57.680 --> 2:39:59.640
<v Speaker 2>you'll be with Perth Life from one to five.

2:40:00.080 --> 2:40:03.040
<v Speaker 40>Some of the supplementary presenter's list mate. And they've called

2:40:03.080 --> 2:40:07.000
<v Speaker 40>me in busy busy show today, very good show today,

2:40:07.040 --> 2:40:09.280
<v Speaker 40>by the way, soon. I've really enjoyed your work.

2:40:09.440 --> 2:40:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Rusty. I just want to say you are

2:40:11.520 --> 2:40:13.240
<v Speaker 2>a very loyal and supportive fellow.

2:40:13.520 --> 2:40:15.480
<v Speaker 40>No I say that I do like it, and that

2:40:15.800 --> 2:40:19.360
<v Speaker 40>vote today, I'm a no voter. I think they're just

2:40:19.440 --> 2:40:21.039
<v Speaker 40>going to continue on annoying people.

2:40:21.200 --> 2:40:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's all they know. Is it over for the

2:40:23.640 --> 2:40:26.080
<v Speaker 2>Woodside protest. I made a couple of calls yesterday Rusty

2:40:26.120 --> 2:40:27.880
<v Speaker 2>and spoke to a few of the hardliners and they're

2:40:27.879 --> 2:40:30.120
<v Speaker 2>pretty rattled by what they heard yesterday from Murray what

2:40:30.720 --> 2:40:32.600
<v Speaker 2>and they just I think they realized that what they

2:40:32.680 --> 2:40:37.039
<v Speaker 2>have been doing hasn't worked politically in terms of campaigning.

2:40:37.080 --> 2:40:39.640
<v Speaker 2>So I think they've got to reboot it. But I'll

2:40:39.680 --> 2:40:41.720
<v Speaker 2>give you the honors, Russ, Yes or no? Is it

2:40:41.800 --> 2:40:44.320
<v Speaker 2>over the woodside protesters? What are our listeners saying?

2:40:44.480 --> 2:40:48.920
<v Speaker 40>Okay? For their final votes? Are in fifteen have voted

2:40:49.000 --> 2:40:50.960
<v Speaker 40>yes that it is all over?

2:40:51.640 --> 2:40:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Sixty one, but you and I voted no plus you

2:40:54.879 --> 2:40:58.080
<v Speaker 2>so sixty two sixty sixty three from me. Yeah, I

2:40:58.080 --> 2:40:59.880
<v Speaker 2>think there's more water to go under the bridge there

2:41:00.120 --> 2:41:01.080
<v Speaker 2>have for us today, mate.

2:41:01.280 --> 2:41:02.840
<v Speaker 40>Very busy day, mate, very busy day.

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<v Speaker 24>Again.

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<v Speaker 40>We're going to find out more about a doge. There's

2:41:06.160 --> 2:41:08.360
<v Speaker 40>a call for a doze here in the Australia. I

2:41:08.360 --> 2:41:11.120
<v Speaker 40>think it's a very good call, one hundred percent behind it.

2:41:11.200 --> 2:41:13.160
<v Speaker 40>I just think we have a lot of a lot

2:41:13.200 --> 2:41:15.960
<v Speaker 40>of gunment money getting washed around in the economy. I

2:41:16.160 --> 2:41:18.400
<v Speaker 40>liked a bit more auditing of it all and I

2:41:18.600 --> 2:41:19.760
<v Speaker 40>like that to be pretty public.

2:41:19.959 --> 2:41:23.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, some more TRANSPI disparacy, a doge. What else?

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<v Speaker 40>Absolutely travel loong will be end. We're also going to

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<v Speaker 40>find it bees money. You big fan of bees?

2:41:28.280 --> 2:41:28.959
<v Speaker 9>I love Bees?

2:41:29.040 --> 2:41:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I do.

2:41:29.640 --> 2:41:30.760
<v Speaker 40>Yeah, we're going to find it.

2:41:30.800 --> 2:41:32.520
<v Speaker 2>More about a fan of being stung by them. But

2:41:32.600 --> 2:41:33.800
<v Speaker 2>I do like them.

2:41:34.120 --> 2:41:37.119
<v Speaker 40>I've been sung a few times. I've never really blown up, though.

2:41:37.360 --> 2:41:38.240
<v Speaker 40>Have you ever blown Yeah?

2:41:38.320 --> 2:41:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I don't know why I

2:41:42.200 --> 2:41:43.960
<v Speaker 2>don't blow up. It's a he's the mean thing, isn't

2:41:43.959 --> 2:41:45.320
<v Speaker 2>it you to do or you don't?

2:41:46.000 --> 2:41:46.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

2:41:46.560 --> 2:41:47.119
<v Speaker 2>Not mad though.

2:41:48.080 --> 2:41:50.160
<v Speaker 40>Jammie Bennett's going to catch up part of the week, yep,

2:41:50.400 --> 2:41:51.879
<v Speaker 40>something you and I love a part of the week.

2:41:51.959 --> 2:41:52.120
<v Speaker 4>You do.

2:41:52.400 --> 2:41:54.480
<v Speaker 40>What's your beef to get get it off people's chest

2:41:54.520 --> 2:41:56.880
<v Speaker 40>before the weekend? Yeah, I think something is eating it.

2:41:57.000 --> 2:41:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Jack get rid of it today with us. Yeah, all right,

2:41:59.280 --> 2:42:02.080
<v Speaker 2>I'll be listening. Thank you all the very best. I

2:42:02.160 --> 2:42:04.120
<v Speaker 2>believe the shoe bar was cranking last night with the

2:42:04.160 --> 2:42:06.840
<v Speaker 2>origin supporter. So what only he go and I'll see

2:42:06.840 --> 2:42:09.360
<v Speaker 2>you there soon absolutely, yeah, all right mate. Russell Collette

2:42:09.360 --> 2:42:14.680
<v Speaker 2>filling in for Olie Peterson coming off the supplementary presenter's bench,

2:42:14.720 --> 2:42:16.000
<v Speaker 2>which I didn't know we had one of those three

2:42:16.040 --> 2:42:19.080
<v Speaker 2>minutes to one. Thanks for being part of the program today, Henry,

2:42:19.120 --> 2:42:21.000
<v Speaker 2>you're at caller today. He talked to us about signing.

2:42:21.040 --> 2:42:23.039
<v Speaker 2>He won two tickets to see the British Irish Lions

2:42:23.400 --> 2:42:25.800
<v Speaker 2>versus the Force on June twenty eighth at Opta Stadium

2:42:26.160 --> 2:42:28.720
<v Speaker 2>and on the show tomorrow, Glenn Jakovitch be talking footy.

2:42:28.760 --> 2:42:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Hiss tipped Brisbane tonight against Essenon by twenty seven points,

2:42:32.040 --> 2:42:35.000
<v Speaker 2>and Murphy will return with Chris Murphy's Magical Mystery Tour.

2:42:35.080 --> 2:42:35.440
<v Speaker 2>See then