Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: After a less than convincing win over the West Coast Eagles,
Speaker 2: Carlton fans may have been thinking that their season was
Speaker 2: back on track, but after the weekends demoralizing loss at
Speaker 2: the hands of North Melbourne, those same fans are asking
Speaker 2: the age old question when it comes to Carlton, is
Speaker 2: it the coach or is it the list And it's
Speaker 2: a conversation that is set to split the Footy Classified Panel.
Speaker 2: Get comfy on the couch, it's another bumper edition of
Speaker 2: Footy Classified. Good evening everyone, and welcome to Footy Classified. Yes,
Speaker 2: Princess Park is where we begin tonight's show, but not
Speaker 2: before we welcome our start studded panel, one of the
Speaker 2: best journos in the country, the multiple round winner Damian
Speaker 2: Barrett Damo great to have you as always both exam
Speaker 2: the man who won enormous with mettle of brand Low
Speaker 2: Medland three flags with the catch, Jimmy Bartel James at
Speaker 2: Evening Sam and the twelve time leading goalkicker the Coleman
Speaker 2: Medalists from the Bombers Matthew Lord what a great banks
Speaker 2: as well. On the program, we begin at Carlton and
Speaker 2: it was their captain Patrick Cripps and also one of
Speaker 2: their stars and vice captain's Jacob Watering, who looked today
Speaker 2: to take the heat of coach Michael Voss.
Speaker 3: I couldn't speak highly enough of Ussi as a coach,
Speaker 3: also as a mentor and a friend. He puts a
Speaker 3: lot of work into Along with the whole coaches, that
Speaker 3: group's very aligned. So we're in it together. We're not
Speaker 3: going to point fingers and not going to point blame
Speaker 3: anyone else. We're going to take complete ownership, and especially
Speaker 3: as players, it's really important we take ownership now. Lock
Speaker 3: He's done a great job for us for a long
Speaker 3: time now, and I feel like as players, when to
Speaker 3: am up a bit.
Speaker 4: More, there'll be some honest conversations, I think, and would
Speaker 4: be silly not to sort of look into when the
Speaker 4: pressure comes on, what are we doing as players and
Speaker 4: as leaders. And we've probably been through this a fair
Speaker 4: bit in my time at the club. But it's again,
Speaker 4: it's not just on Bossy, it's the entire group, it's
Speaker 4: the club. We've got to take a one in all
Speaker 4: in approach.
Speaker 5: You admire them for stepping out in front of the press.
Speaker 5: They said all the things you'd expect them to say.
Speaker 5: Both spoke spoke really well. But Jacob water And did say,
Speaker 5: we've said this a few times before, and we've been
Speaker 5: in this position before, and I do look at the
Speaker 5: Carlton senior players and we talk about how good they
Speaker 5: are their top six or seven, but do they I
Speaker 5: look at Collingwood as a benchmark in so many areas
Speaker 5: and the way they influence games out there with just
Speaker 5: not what they do on field, but the way they
Speaker 5: also lead their team, and you have to question whether
Speaker 5: Carlton senior players have ever done that or do they
Speaker 5: do it enough. So you think about their senior core
Speaker 5: players and you compare them to the elite and Penelbury's
Speaker 5: out of this world. But Darcy Moore is a wonderful
Speaker 5: leader of men. The way steell Sidebottom has been doing
Speaker 5: his thing be questioning. I'm questioning the cole that the
Speaker 5: leadership group, like Sam Walsh is young, are still young
Speaker 5: in terms, but been injured a fair bit. If you
Speaker 5: say I don't know if Kerno's a leader or not,
Speaker 5: I'm not sure if Harry mckaye is a leader or not.
Speaker 6: Patrick Cripps.
Speaker 5: Unbelievable, stellar record, but I'm not sure you'd put him
Speaker 5: on a level playing field with some of those other guys.
Speaker 5: So I think it is on the senior players. I'd
Speaker 5: love to talk about Michael Voss, but no doubt they
Speaker 5: need to lift their act to support their coach.
Speaker 7: They get to a point in your time in career
Speaker 7: and I still remember early days in Geelong and some
Speaker 7: of the senior players were like, I don't want to
Speaker 7: waste my career ten to fifteen years and you play
Speaker 7: the game to win premierships and so the point I
Speaker 7: think you're getting towards till a bit Lloyd is yes,
Speaker 7: they've been fantastic as individuals, but how can you push
Speaker 7: this group further and how can you actually push them
Speaker 7: to say we need to just go even harder, We
Speaker 7: need to drive the standards because what will end up
Speaker 7: happening is you have a ten to fifteen year career
Speaker 7: and you'll be celebrated as being a good player, you
Speaker 7: got paid well, and that's your time in football.
Speaker 8: I don't think people want.
Speaker 7: To finish a ten to fifteen year career just saying
Speaker 7: I had a good career.
Speaker 8: We didn't win March like I went okay.
Speaker 2: So damo the Jakob eder To Lordie's point said, it
Speaker 2: feels like we've been here before. We don't actually have
Speaker 2: to go back that far, like it was after round
Speaker 2: one when they lost to Richmond, remember that shock loss.
Speaker 2: And he actually led a really tough review on the
Speaker 2: Sunday and it was in the Herald Sun and it
Speaker 2: was a big deal. It seems like, and this is
Speaker 2: not me having a go, but it seems like there's
Speaker 2: a lot of talk at Carlton about wanting to do
Speaker 2: the right things at reviewing the right things, but the actions,
Speaker 2: the behavior's demo don't seem to be changing.
Speaker 9: No, And to your point about the behaviors, even the
Speaker 9: build up to the expected exit of Tom da Cooning, Lordy,
Speaker 9: you were with Lee Matthews, the Great Lee Matthews on
Speaker 9: three w during the weekend just gone and Tom da
Speaker 9: Coony had this set about him by Matthews.
Speaker 10: You watched tom deconning plant he could be the highest
Speaker 10: played player in the game next year.
Speaker 11: That doesn't sound right, doesn't now?
Speaker 10: It doesn't?
Speaker 9: And then that gets us into lord he doesn't it
Speaker 9: what happens if he does go? And the leadership components
Speaker 9: to it will get onto Kernel in a moment. But
Speaker 9: they've just to remind people traded out their first and
Speaker 9: second round picks of last year. So if the cooning
Speaker 9: is to go as expecting, the club does expect him
Speaker 9: to go. Now, the pick at the moment is thirty
Speaker 9: six without the compensation that they'll get for him. Onto Kerno, Lordie,
Speaker 9: you've been watching him evolve as a two time common millist.
Speaker 9: You've watched him in the two seasons completed since then
Speaker 9: and for half of twenty twenty five, and it's a
Speaker 9: different decouning to the one that was dominating football when
Speaker 9: he was winning those medals.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Kerno, yeah, I think just on him.
Speaker 5: I've been I was his greatest admirer or one of
Speaker 5: when he was playing really great football and he's winning
Speaker 5: winning Coleman medals. But what I have noticed with him
Speaker 5: is the difference between his best and worst is pretty
Speaker 5: stark for a player who's one of the best forwards
Speaker 5: in the competition. So this year he's had five games
Speaker 5: where he's had nine disposal or less. You see his
Speaker 5: numbers have dropped off, but he kicks three a lot.
Speaker 5: Which asked me, does he drop off in his work
Speaker 5: rate or does he not sort of have that killer
Speaker 5: instinct in him? Does he not fight through? You know
Speaker 5: when you've kicked three, So those guys I want to
Speaker 5: kick five, I want to kick six. It's saying he's
Speaker 5: not cashing in enough. Well, not cashing or not working
Speaker 5: hard enough. I'm not sure it is, Sam, but that's
Speaker 5: where he's been disappointing. And people can say what about
Speaker 5: the team that he's in. Well, I saw Nick Larky
Speaker 5: kick seventy a few years ago in a team that
Speaker 5: won three games.
Speaker 1: Should he play it on the weekend?
Speaker 6: I didn't think he moved too bad. Sam.
Speaker 5: I was watching it and I didn't see I saw
Speaker 5: him take a hangar, so his calf couldn't have been
Speaker 5: too bad. If he's sitting on someone's back, that's what
Speaker 5: I saw. I think there's a mental aspect to him,
Speaker 5: which I'm big on. I'm big on what you do
Speaker 5: when you don't have the foot in it. You might
Speaker 5: have the foot in your hand for thirty seconds in
Speaker 5: a game or two minutes if you're not having shots
Speaker 5: for goal. It's what you do when you don't have
Speaker 5: the ball. He doesn't work hard enough. So I think
Speaker 5: the question that we need.
Speaker 2: To answer on this panel tonight and Damo brought it
Speaker 2: up a few weeks ago with Graham right when he
Speaker 2: broke the story of the agent of change. Clearly, I
Speaker 2: think we all agree changes needed at Carlton in some way,
Speaker 2: shape or form.
Speaker 1: But what major change is it?
Speaker 2: Because it doesn't sound like they're going to move on
Speaker 2: the coach in season not his season.
Speaker 9: No, there's nine matches remaining and look, mathematically they can
Speaker 9: still make the aid. So let's just park the Michael
Speaker 9: Boss conversation for the purpose of tonight's chat. But there
Speaker 9: are decisions being made at least on assessments of players,
Speaker 9: and I keep saying in that same piece sam I
Speaker 9: did write that if a club was to come to
Speaker 9: Graham Rye with a feasible offer from.
Speaker 11: The outset, not a not a not, not.
Speaker 9: A fancyful one, if a feasible offer to get wrench
Speaker 9: Mkerno out, he will, I believe, is my opinion, he
Speaker 9: will engage in that conversation at least at least consider it.
Speaker 11: Now. Whether that happens or not, it's a whole nother ballgame.
Speaker 9: But it's these types of decisions that I expect him
Speaker 9: to make either in year one of his time, which
Speaker 9: is basically coming up as soon as next month or
Speaker 9: year two.
Speaker 2: So Jimmy, could you see a world where they actually
Speaker 2: trade one of these big name players and keep the coach,
Speaker 2: because that would be an interesting sell to the fans.
Speaker 7: Anything's on the table, But there are a handful of
Speaker 7: players that you would not trade at Carlton like they're
Speaker 7: not trading the skipper Patrick Crips like that just pulled
Speaker 7: the fabric of the club apart. That there could be
Speaker 7: potentially one of the key forwards because you've got two
Speaker 7: of them. But weirdering is safe, like if you can't
Speaker 7: find some halfbacks that around the competition, there's not too
Speaker 7: many of them, but the rest of like dam I
Speaker 7: was saying, if it's a proper offer, no doubt he'd
Speaker 7: consider it.
Speaker 5: So your same wetering would be safe in your eyes,
Speaker 5: but not Curno.
Speaker 8: I think weatering's more safe.
Speaker 7: I just think with their list currently the way it's
Speaker 7: structured at the moment, the key defender you put him
Speaker 7: next to Silvanni as well. They're pretty good behind the footy.
Speaker 5: Would you try well a year ago, ordn't have said
Speaker 5: not in my world of streams, would I the Kerno
Speaker 5: that's playing right now, I'd consider it. But I'm looking
Speaker 5: at what Matthew Kennedy's doing at the Western Bulldogs and
Speaker 5: I'm asking why is he playing so well at his
Speaker 5: new home? Why aren't Carlton players coming in so Again,
Speaker 5: I look at the club as a whole. You could
Speaker 5: send Kerno to another club, maybe a top four club,
Speaker 5: where they may be working harder, or they can get
Speaker 5: him training harder. I'm not sure what's stopping him, Sam,
Speaker 5: but it could be haunt them for the rest of
Speaker 5: their time because he could be the best player in
Speaker 5: the game at a better club that's currently in Carlton.
Speaker 1: Would you change the list or the coach?
Speaker 6: Well, I think you look at everything, Sam, which which.
Speaker 1: One would you go? Which track would you go? Now?
Speaker 2: And I'm not just saying Michael Boss, would you change?
Speaker 1: I'm talking coaching group or playing the group.
Speaker 5: The coach is always the first to be looked at
Speaker 5: because it's easier to change the coach than the playing group,
Speaker 5: and faster and faster. But I'm with the guys. You
Speaker 5: let him see out the next nine weeks. What I'm
Speaker 5: concerned about, oh is the ball movement though, so this
Speaker 5: is on the coach. I want to know is a
Speaker 5: lack of confidence or is it they're being instructed to
Speaker 5: do this. So they're being instructed, I would say, well,
Speaker 5: this is not the way to play football. So Carlton
Speaker 5: kicked the ball backwards the third most in the competition,
Speaker 5: and this happened time and time again early in the game.
Speaker 5: So I'm thinking, why is this happening, Why are you
Speaker 5: going backwards and where you can't play on it?
Speaker 2: Since did you get at the ground later that this
Speaker 2: was deliberate?
Speaker 5: It looked to me to be deliberate. Yeah, because it
Speaker 5: happened so early and they were going okay, and this
Speaker 5: is the football and the whole Carlton fans and even
Speaker 5: us in the media box just a sense of relief.
Speaker 5: Finally they're doing something productive through the corridor the game
Speaker 5: on and being able to score. But unfortunately this happened
Speaker 5: when the game was lost. So that's what I'd be
Speaker 5: asking Michael Voss if I'm a football Director of board member, saying,
Speaker 5: what happened earlier in this game that had your players
Speaker 5: kicking it backwards?
Speaker 7: Too many players rushed to get behind the kicker and
Speaker 7: been big on this for weeks. Yeah, because once you
Speaker 7: rush behind the kicker, eventually the opposition goes at some
Speaker 7: stage you're going to come back through us with eighteen.
Speaker 7: So then you're playing the game twelve thirteen v. Eighteen
Speaker 7: at AFL level on the MCG, so you're playing eighty
Speaker 7: percent of the field with twelve players versus eighteen. You
Speaker 7: can't win games like that, no wonder you keep going
Speaker 7: sidewards and backwards because you look up because three or
Speaker 7: four of your teammates are rushing to get behind you
Speaker 7: for a switch.
Speaker 11: Key.
Speaker 7: The difference was that last edit that Lloyd showed that
Speaker 7: only one came behind and then the next one's come
Speaker 7: flying through and that's how you play football.
Speaker 5: So and the last thing I'll say on them is
Speaker 5: their biggest weapon was their clearance, their contests and their pressure.
Speaker 5: That's how they beat Geelong in that big win earlier
Speaker 5: in the year. If they're matched in that or beaten
Speaker 5: like North did on the weekend, what's their how do
Speaker 5: they win the game of football?
Speaker 6: So they planned, ye, what's their playing And that's that's
Speaker 6: what I'd ask.
Speaker 2: It's a fascinating situation at Carlton and one to watch
Speaker 2: over the next nine weeks, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Speaking you're fascinating.
Speaker 2: It has been an intriguing situation developing at the kennel
Speaker 2: surrounding one of their start players, of course not playing
Speaker 2: at the moment in Jamar at eugile Hagen. And we
Speaker 2: know it's a delicate situation, it's a sensitive one and
Speaker 2: mainly because we haven't heard from the man himself. Well
Speaker 2: that changed over the weekend he went on the Rip
Speaker 2: through It podcast.
Speaker 12: I'm doing really good. Like obviously my feelings, I don't know.
Speaker 12: I feel a great I feel light fresh, and I'm
Speaker 12: ready to go.
Speaker 6: Are we going to see you play AFL again?
Speaker 12: And at the Bulldogs?
Speaker 6: And this year I want to play footy. I can't
Speaker 6: wait to play footy.
Speaker 12: I want to kick a and go in front of
Speaker 12: all these crowds. I've got a team around me and
Speaker 12: I'm going to play like I'm going to play this year.
Speaker 12: Like I'm playing this year. It's going to be a grouse.
Speaker 12: I'm not going anywhere at the moment. No, I'm definitely
Speaker 12: not thinking of it either because I'm obviously still contract
Speaker 12: to put the.
Speaker 1: Dog in Bulldogs and that's it the.
Speaker 12: Bulldogs until my contracts run out and then hopefully they
Speaker 12: offer me another one.
Speaker 11: But hard is it's at the Doggies.
Speaker 9: That's part of a forty five minute conversation that he
Speaker 9: had with Ree Smathison and Miss Robinson, and it does
Speaker 9: venture into other spaces mental health space.
Speaker 11: But we'll talk about the football.
Speaker 9: Side of it here on this panel tonight and the
Speaker 9: distractions that Jamario Goglehagen has been to the Bulldogs even tonight,
Speaker 9: Sam as we go to where there's a social media
Speaker 9: post about a car of Jamariy Goglhaggens that may or
Speaker 9: may not have been misplaced or taken. I raise that
Speaker 9: because even in the week that he's returned to the
Speaker 9: football club, there is yet again a distraction around him.
Speaker 11: I go back to the football side of it.
Speaker 9: Though he's going to be playing VFL football, I would
Speaker 9: think some stage in the next four to five weeks
Speaker 9: there is enough season left in twenty twenty five for
Speaker 9: his prodigious talent to do something in the VFL of
Speaker 9: a continued nature. Jimmy and Lordie for maybe two or
Speaker 9: three weeks that just may put it into the question
Speaker 9: mark do we take a risk on this man in
Speaker 9: the senior team in round twenty two, Round twenty three,
Speaker 9: Round twenty four, potentially, because if he does come back,
Speaker 9: he's coming back as the third tall Ford.
Speaker 5: It's still fanciful for me. Around fifteen, so he's fifteen
Speaker 5: weeks of work behind. And this is AFL football. This
Speaker 5: is not anywhere underneath where you could maybe get away
Speaker 5: with it. So I would need to see him not
Speaker 5: miss a beat for six weeks because that's how much
Speaker 5: training I believe you need. You can't walk onto an
Speaker 5: AFL ground in four weeks or five weeks. This is
Speaker 5: how much in your need, like, it's how difficult it is.
Speaker 5: He'll get other soft tissue injuries. He's playing catch up
Speaker 5: and still look like he doesn't look fit enough at all,
Speaker 5: you know in the vision that we've seen have been
Speaker 5: boxing and things like that. So I think I just
Speaker 5: I like that he had a smile on his face,
Speaker 5: and I like that he's got something to work towards.
Speaker 5: But I think this is all just a play for
Speaker 5: hopefully him getting to another club next year.
Speaker 2: I just wonder on that point, and the cynical view
Speaker 2: Jimmy would be, well, is it in the interest of
Speaker 2: both parties to get him playing late in the year,
Speaker 2: whether it's going to be, whether his career is going
Speaker 2: to be ultimately at the Western Bulldogs for the medium
Speaker 2: to long term or somewhere else.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I hope.
Speaker 8: I'm taking the positive aspect of it.
Speaker 7: Where you're going with that is it's a positive hopefully
Speaker 7: for the Western Bulldogs, but also a positive for Jamarrow.
Speaker 8: I like when people are smiling. I like when they're happy.
Speaker 7: Lody, you've spoken about this about how great football clubs are.
Speaker 7: I think it'd be fantastic he's back around the football club,
Speaker 7: back around good people who have got really positive influence.
Speaker 7: As far as you know, you're being healthy, you're being fit,
Speaker 7: you get the joy out of football again. And the
Speaker 7: big tagaway for me is I want to get back
Speaker 7: kicking goals.
Speaker 8: Like simplistic is that football is a great game.
Speaker 7: And glad we're talking about that with Jamarrow getting back
Speaker 7: involved in a football club and hopefully we're having the
Speaker 7: debate in four to five weeks. Well he's kicked four goals,
Speaker 7: three goals, six goals, whatever it may be in the
Speaker 7: VFL and we're having the debate of whether he should
Speaker 7: play or not.
Speaker 2: I think that's the hope for all of us, and
Speaker 2: to your point, we want to see that for six
Speaker 2: weeks we don't want to be here in another month, saying, oh, well,
Speaker 2: he still hasn't yet fully trained to a point where
Speaker 2: he can compete at a level.
Speaker 5: We're going to talk about Jake Stringer later and the
Speaker 5: work they've made him do to get to this point.
Speaker 5: And this is a guy who's been there the whole year,
Speaker 5: so I think that he's got a lot a lot
Speaker 5: of hard training to do to get to that point
Speaker 5: of even running out in the BFL level.
Speaker 2: And his teammates have been performing admirably or even more
Speaker 2: so without him, and Richards has turned himself into one
Speaker 2: of the premier midfielders of the competition. His comments postgame
Speaker 2: after a convincing win, we're intriguing.
Speaker 10: Some people are calling us flat track bullies at the moment,
Speaker 10: so we've got to do something about that. We've got
Speaker 10: to be a team above us, which is definitely the
Speaker 10: goal for the back end of the year. We've been
Speaker 10: dominant against sort of the weaker sides and it's great
Speaker 10: for our percentage, but you know, come final time, we're
Speaker 10: going to be playing the stronger sides if we're able
Speaker 10: to make it.
Speaker 6: So we've just got to take what we did tonight.
Speaker 10: I thought we were pretty good all over the ground.
Speaker 1: We can do that against the better sides.
Speaker 10: For longer, it's just been lacking maybe one quarter here,
Speaker 10: ten minutes there against the better sides that have been
Speaker 10: really costing us.
Speaker 9: It's really difficult to know what to read into what
Speaker 9: Ed Richards is referring to there and what we see
Speaker 9: on that screen given the death of performance against those
Speaker 9: teams below them on the ladder, because ultimately they've got
Speaker 9: a game plan that they want to stick to regardless
Speaker 9: of opponent. On someday soon maybe it may just click
Speaker 9: again one of the teams above them on the ladder,
Speaker 9: but it's a damaging scoreline they've now got against teams
Speaker 9: that are clearly inferior to them. And I do feel
Speaker 9: that with the acquisition now or the addition of Sam
Speaker 9: Darcy and Marcus Bonton Pelly together Sam, it's extraordy. They've
Speaker 9: only played three matches together this year, for wins in
Speaker 9: the seventy points zone on each occasion, and Darcy's only
Speaker 9: played thirty six. Bonton Pelly's about to play Game two fifty.
Speaker 9: But these guys together at this stage of Darcy in
Speaker 9: his fourth season and Bonton Pelly now that he's got
Speaker 9: the form and fitness back after missing the first five
Speaker 9: games of the year. I think those two names are
Speaker 9: the most compelling reason to believe as a Bulldog support.
Speaker 6: Now I'm with you.
Speaker 5: I think they're too good not to strike and beat
Speaker 5: some good sides in the run home. They've got Adelaide, Brisbane,
Speaker 5: the Giants and Freo four of their last nine, and
Speaker 5: the rest are gimmes games they should win in my opinion,
Speaker 5: including Sydney this weekend. Tralare is out for six weeks.
Speaker 5: Big a loss, not big for mine because I just
Speaker 5: think that they were throwing Liver and a few other
Speaker 5: players out of position. Jimmy, I now look at it
Speaker 5: when you've got BoNT and Pali, Richard's prature, Kennedy, Frasier
Speaker 5: and Sanders. There was a luxury that they had and
Speaker 5: he's always fighting against his body, so I think it
Speaker 5: might settle down the team of it.
Speaker 8: No, I agree with you. You know it brings Lippert
Speaker 8: back into the more.
Speaker 7: Center bounces where he's been playing a half pack actually
Speaker 7: and not being too bad. But you mentioned Richard's is better.
Speaker 7: O'donald's looking better and better week in week out.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 7: They'll take a few scalps on the way home. Above
Speaker 7: them on the ladder.
Speaker 5: Can they win the flag? Last week I said there
Speaker 5: was three, so that's why I'm trying to catch you out.
Speaker 5: But there's still eighth or nine. But I think them
Speaker 5: and the Giants are the only ones that are likely
Speaker 5: out of that top No.
Speaker 2: So just so you know, once you declare the top three,
Speaker 2: that's it. There's no adding it. Well no, then, okay,
Speaker 2: you really hope that opened the flag?
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're very good on their day.
Speaker 2: SiZ League started on Fretty Classified, and there is plenty
Speaker 2: more still to come, including the man that lord you
Speaker 2: just mentioned the package has delivered. Is Jake Stringer one
Speaker 2: of the keys to a Giants flag tilt? The fading
Speaker 2: Sons don't tell me that we seen this movie before?
Speaker 2: Want to be different under Dimmer two point zero and
Speaker 2: the Tiger trains stalled?
Speaker 1: Have the young Richmond Cubs run out of gas.
Speaker 2: It's all coming up right here on Footy Classified gets
Speaker 2: inside the attending arc Brown flies for it.
Speaker 13: Matt Hearndro trying to clear can't Strager Strager, It had
Speaker 13: to be him.
Speaker 14: It'll be bouncing ball, Stringers lurking going to ground with
Speaker 14: yourland string up the impossible land straight up. He gets
Speaker 14: you out of the eighty sticky situation.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Footy Classified.
Speaker 2: It does not seem no matter what colors that man
Speaker 2: is wearing, he still does the improbable and occasionally the impossible.
Speaker 2: Jimmy Bartel and yesterday not for the first time he
Speaker 2: did it as the sub.
Speaker 8: Is he the perfect suby at the moment?
Speaker 7: He is because he's not completely match fit to play
Speaker 7: the four hundred and twenty minutes plus, and he's a
Speaker 7: player who, when the foot is to the floor as
Speaker 7: maximum impact.
Speaker 8: So the ability to sort of coast.
Speaker 7: Through a game is not going to suit the way
Speaker 7: the Giants playing, not the way the game is being played,
Speaker 7: especially with the transition that they need. So if you
Speaker 7: bring him on as the sub or be the sub player,
Speaker 7: he can have maximum impact on a short and formed game.
Speaker 5: We all speact to people in this game, and now
Speaker 5: I spect to people as well, and they say that
Speaker 5: Adam Kingsley has just worked him over that hard, and
Speaker 5: Stringers felt he's been ready to play for three or
Speaker 5: four weeks and he says, n you're going to keep
Speaker 5: running and running till I think you're ready, and we
Speaker 5: don't need you in right now. We need you closer
Speaker 5: heading into September. So he's made him work for this game.
Speaker 5: He's made him the sub. He looked pretty fit, So
Speaker 5: let's hope he can keep a game.
Speaker 1: That's amazing coaching.
Speaker 2: If that's true, isn't it to make him to understand
Speaker 2: that he needs maybe a different way into the other
Speaker 2: players on the list?
Speaker 7: Yeah, stick to the plan and what's why did you
Speaker 7: get him to the Giants? And that is to win
Speaker 7: big games, big moments and hopefully the back end of
Speaker 7: the year and for the Giant's sake the finals, time
Speaker 7: to do exactly what he did in the last quarter there, kick,
Speaker 7: you two have a quarter where it can take a game.
Speaker 5: And keep the foot on his throat, like, don't let
Speaker 5: him get caught up and don't let him get carried away,
Speaker 5: and keep prodding him to get the best out of him,
Speaker 5: because some players do get comfortable, and he's been one
Speaker 5: that's fluctuated throughout his career.
Speaker 2: So the type of player that he is, that big bodied,
Speaker 2: impact mid forward sometimes gets compared to the likes of
Speaker 2: Jordan de Goey, who finds himself at the moment on
Speaker 2: the injury list again and trying to get into this
Speaker 2: Collingwood side before September.
Speaker 1: Do they need him?
Speaker 5: They do need it. I wouldn't say they need him
Speaker 5: because have been two games clear. It might be two
Speaker 5: and a half games clear without him. But the big
Speaker 5: thing is that on Jordan to Go he is say
Speaker 5: players like I do ned Long who have been sensational
Speaker 5: and a real important cob.
Speaker 6: So he's he ahead of him.
Speaker 5: He hasn't got the talent of Jordan to Go he
Speaker 5: but he can trust him. You can just trust that
Speaker 5: he's going to just keep working to trust his body
Speaker 5: for me.
Speaker 6: So there might be he might be a sub. I
Speaker 6: don't know. There's been playing Sullivan as a sub at
Speaker 6: the moment.
Speaker 7: The only problem is Jordan's got that many credits in
Speaker 7: the bank, particularly in big foum. Yeah, that's why I
Speaker 7: made big finals and big games. He delivers like he
Speaker 7: hits the scoreboard in big games when you go hang
Speaker 7: on Collingwood need a goal and he hammers. At home
Speaker 7: where he has lots of touches to the midfield, he
Speaker 7: can take the goal square.
Speaker 8: So it would take the risk, of course and on
Speaker 8: the risk.
Speaker 2: You made a great point on the Sunday Footy Show
Speaker 2: that given that they could be two games clear at
Speaker 2: the top, they could get around twenty two to twenty
Speaker 2: three and say, all right, well, if he breaks down,
Speaker 2: he breaks down, but we might as well risk him
Speaker 2: now and see if he can do.
Speaker 5: We'll go the others way and just give him the
Speaker 5: longest four weeks of training and not bring him back
Speaker 5: even later.
Speaker 6: Till closer to the first final.
Speaker 5: I know, I'm saying, like, even if he plays the
Speaker 5: last four or five games, so we're still nine games out,
Speaker 5: just give it as long as possible to his he's.
Speaker 11: In that batch of work right now.
Speaker 9: The losing team in that game, we just a high
Speaker 9: lot of there with Jake Stringer's work at the Gold
Speaker 9: Coast Sons. Damien Hardwick, their coach, spoke on Fox Footy
Speaker 9: tonight and just pondered and tried to refute what the
Speaker 9: narrative has always been after a bye for the Gold
Speaker 9: Coast Suns.
Speaker 15: It's a new Suns for us, Like I know that's
Speaker 15: been the narrative of the past, and I think last
Speaker 15: year we went four and six in the back end
Speaker 15: and we're a different side mate, if I'm being completely honest,
Speaker 15: we know we're a lot better than our side was
Speaker 15: placed last year, so we're really excited about what that
Speaker 15: presents and.
Speaker 6: The balls in our court.
Speaker 8: We've had a great start of the year.
Speaker 15: We bank effectively the prior to the buy the eight
Speaker 15: and four and we get a.
Speaker 6: Real run at it and you.
Speaker 11: Know it's in our own hands.
Speaker 9: You don't expect anything but definance to it from Damien
Speaker 9: Hardwick and just taking a look at what's happened in
Speaker 9: the two years of his coaching and the two before that.
Speaker 11: There is a theme and it's not going to.
Speaker 9: Go away until they rectify that theme and get it
Speaker 9: into the black on the win loss Ledger. But the
Speaker 9: interesting one about this year too, Sam, is that going
Speaker 9: into the bye they lost to Going into it Freemantle
Speaker 9: and Jewelong they're the good teams, and coming out of
Speaker 9: it they've lost to another good team GWS. But there's
Speaker 9: three losses in a row as part of this wider narrative.
Speaker 5: And they'll cleaned up by Brisbane as well, maybe two
Speaker 5: or three weeks before that. So they have lost us
Speaker 5: some high quality teams. The way they're losing isn't too
Speaker 5: bad Jim, But you want to see them go on like, yes,
Speaker 5: they should have won this game.
Speaker 6: On the weekend.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they're emerging still as a side. I think we
Speaker 7: want them to do it quickly, but they're in uncharted
Speaker 7: territory for them, so they're still learning. So what happened yesterday.
Speaker 7: Of course, Row, Miller Anderson are all dominated. Anderson couldn't
Speaker 7: have played any better. Forty plus touches, score involvements, you
Speaker 7: name it. You even throw flanners in as well. But
Speaker 7: they're still learning how to close out games. Being in
Speaker 7: that winning situation. They can't have another game where the
Speaker 7: Giants go inside forward fifty thirteen times and score eight
Speaker 7: goals in the last quarter. And they fell into the
Speaker 7: trap of Giants game, which was transition, transition up and back,
Speaker 7: up and back. So they were plus thirty three from
Speaker 7: stoppage as well. But they just need to learn those
Speaker 7: late game situations. You know, ten fifteen minutes ago, what
Speaker 7: are we doing. We're taking some sting out of the clock,
Speaker 7: We're kicking long down the line, the big witzy who
Speaker 7: is dominant. So they're still going to EBB and flow,
Speaker 7: and I think sometimes we forget that because we want
Speaker 7: it to happen so quickly.
Speaker 6: How big a failure would be. Though they missed the eight.
Speaker 7: I'd be incredibly disappointing with the talent and the change.
Speaker 7: And I agree they are a different side, but they
Speaker 7: need to be a different side and still taste September action.
Speaker 1: They couldn't miss the eight.
Speaker 7: They well, one's got to miss if you're going to
Speaker 7: say it's the top nine, because there's two between Night
Speaker 7: and Tent, one's got to miss out.
Speaker 2: But they've played too fewer games than they shouldn't have
Speaker 2: a lot of They've got the if they are different
Speaker 2: like them are saying, they shouldn't be missing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like they could. They could go deep.
Speaker 2: I think they've got some real weapons with Damian Hardwick
Speaker 2: in their ear. I just think they need to get
Speaker 2: to finals. They could do some real damage.
Speaker 9: If once again then we're talking about it, they're not
Speaker 9: actually doing it.
Speaker 1: That's true, No, I hear it actually louder than well.
Speaker 11: I'm with you. I think they will get in, but
Speaker 11: I'm not convinced they'll get in.
Speaker 2: We're not convinced exactly how the Tigers are going. We
Speaker 2: know as a young side you can have ups and downs.
Speaker 2: The last couple of weeks have certainly been downs. First
Speaker 2: against Sydney and then again on Sunday against the Western Bulldogs,
Speaker 2: a similar performance and a similar message from the coach
Speaker 2: post game.
Speaker 16: Really disappointing middle part of the game and just wasn't
Speaker 16: up to a fur standard. Yeah, like I said, the
Speaker 16: middle two quarters were not up to standard, like the
Speaker 16: second quarter. I don't think we've played any worse for
Speaker 16: the year. I don't think it's fair about saying the half.
Speaker 16: The second quarter just wasn't just standard. At halftime, the
Speaker 16: scoreboard was so lopsided, but expected score was twenty points,
Speaker 16: but you could sense that it had ripped the heart
Speaker 16: out of our team. What's been good about the year
Speaker 16: is just they've surprised us with some wins and they've
Speaker 16: had some tight losses, even the Giants loss.
Speaker 5: Now they threw it away in the last quarter, but
Speaker 5: it was a fantastic performance. But the last two weeks,
Speaker 5: you wouldn't want to have the last nine weeks go
Speaker 5: like that where they've been non competitive. So there's losses
Speaker 5: and there's brutal losses, and they've been pretty bad the
Speaker 5: last two weeks. So you'd hope that they spiked back up,
Speaker 5: so up and down and you hope this week's a
Speaker 5: far better performance.
Speaker 8: And Lloyd it's on the leaders.
Speaker 7: So we've sung the praises of the leaders of the Tigers.
Speaker 8: And they've got to perform all the time.
Speaker 7: And Noah Bolter has won those leaders and his performance
Speaker 7: on Sam Darcy was pretty lacking.
Speaker 8: To be honest.
Speaker 7: If a guy's seven foot tall, probably giving him a
Speaker 7: thirty meter leg rope, he's not going to help you side.
Speaker 6: Is that do you feel? Is he's not a smart player,
Speaker 6: Like what do you think he's.
Speaker 7: I've seen him play players one on one. He's athletically gifted.
Speaker 7: I know there's this team defense, but there's one guy
Speaker 7: as an exception to the rule on the Ford line,
Speaker 7: the guy who's seven foot and can mark the footy.
Speaker 7: You've got at least do your best and put some
Speaker 7: body contact or be within twenty.
Speaker 6: Five meters of him. To be aggressive.
Speaker 5: I think you've got to be aggressive with Darcy's love
Speaker 5: talking about the fiery nature of Darcy. They didn't have
Speaker 5: a glove on him. Be aggressive, getting sight under his skin.
Speaker 5: Teams have got to pro probably try on some different
Speaker 5: things against him.
Speaker 2: It's always going to be a difficult you though for
Speaker 2: No Balta, given everything that happened, all the drama surrounding it,
Speaker 2: and now the interrupted nature of when he can and
Speaker 2: can't play like it was always going to be tough
Speaker 2: for him to come in and be the potential a
Speaker 2: grader that we thought he could be.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I think he's a better player than that.
Speaker 7: I think he's got some serious athletic trades. He can
Speaker 7: mark the footy. He does actually have aggression, Yeah, but
Speaker 7: the starting points were way off on the weekend.
Speaker 11: Tom needs to go around again more on the Tigers.
Speaker 11: Do you like the cool I.
Speaker 7: Do, because obviously up forward they need some experience. I
Speaker 7: know he's not the Tom Lynch from the premiership years,
Speaker 7: but he's there for cover for the likes of John
Speaker 7: t Fall and any other.
Speaker 8: Emerging key forwards.
Speaker 7: Look, even if next year he doesn't play all the games,
Speaker 7: you need him to play some games because he's still
Speaker 7: going to attract the opposition's.
Speaker 8: Best key forward. So he's their cover for.
Speaker 7: The for the next generation coming through, for the for
Speaker 7: the young Tigers forwards.
Speaker 1: It's pretty loyal, isn't it.
Speaker 2: But he could have really gone just about anywhere after
Speaker 2: they fell off the cliff after the Flags, teams looking
Speaker 2: for a key forward, and yet he's still there.
Speaker 9: There were some many teams looking for a key forward,
Speaker 9: but I didn't, and I'm not sure whether you did
Speaker 9: either in the last trade period linking one specifically too,
Speaker 9: And I don't know whether the interest was there as
Speaker 9: much as.
Speaker 2: Probably could have gone to the Pies with the Demons
Speaker 2: sometime in the last two years, you would think, I think,
Speaker 2: but I haven't heard it.
Speaker 6: On a great cut.
Speaker 2: If he took less, yeah, he'd probably have to have
Speaker 2: to take less, but he'd had the lure of another
Speaker 2: flag potentially that would have been I just think it's
Speaker 2: amazing charlve loyalty that's decided.
Speaker 6: To stay there.
Speaker 5: Hundreds of players you could say the same thing about
Speaker 5: hundreds hundreds of them. Yeah, like no one. Not many
Speaker 5: leave their clubs. You look at him, they just keep signing,
Speaker 5: like Maddie row this play. So for all the talk
Speaker 5: that we have, not many ever leave their clubs.
Speaker 2: It's funny about Rowl. Still haven't seen the press release
Speaker 2: from the Suns.
Speaker 8: Have you.
Speaker 1: No, I haven't, but got reported that he's signed, but I haven't.
Speaker 11: Very senior and very good journalists reported that he has
Speaker 11: agreed to stay.
Speaker 2: Of course, Michael Gleason broke with the age, but just
Speaker 2: it's weird that it hasn't been announced by the club.
Speaker 1: I'm more suspicious on these things until they get announced.
Speaker 11: Are you saying he's not.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, why hasn't
Speaker 1: Why haven't the club an?
Speaker 8: What are you saying?
Speaker 11: What do you ask you?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just really want the club to
Speaker 1: announce it.
Speaker 2: I really would need us to get to a break
Speaker 2: because the water cooler is coming up next and I
Speaker 2: feel like there's a red and black thing to it.
Speaker 1: But coming up.
Speaker 2: After Footy Classified, it is Players. That man has had
Speaker 2: a great year. Rory Lobby is in, Luke Trainer is
Speaker 2: in and the man who just keeps dominating is like
Speaker 2: a fine worn with age. He gets better at Steel Sidebottom.
Speaker 2: Felix von Hoff is the host. It's Players and it's
Speaker 2: after footy Fascifating.
Speaker 1: Oh don't Loder welcome back to Frey Classified.
Speaker 2: It is stallin for the water cooler and as I
Speaker 2: mentioned before the break, it's got a red.
Speaker 1: And black theme to it.
Speaker 2: Lordo the Bombers is another one about to depart Tullamarene.
Speaker 5: Well, there's many who fear that big Draper Sam Draper
Speaker 5: may well move to another club in this offseason. And
Speaker 5: I look at the ruckman across the comp currently and
Speaker 5: you've got Cameron Stanley, Meek Jackson, Wits, Grundy Sweet goal Scene,
Speaker 5: Nan Curvis Flint. So there's ten clubs number one ruck
Speaker 5: players moved on and I'm thinking just the domino effects.
Speaker 5: So if the Coning goes to Saint Kilda, well, Carlton
Speaker 5: can't go in with Pitt Nap as their only ruckman,
Speaker 5: and obviously the guy who played a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 5: You've got Sam Draper if he moves on, they can't
Speaker 5: go with Goldie who'll probably retire, Brian who's got an
Speaker 5: ACL and you've got Byzantini who's too young. So will
Speaker 5: I Brian look for a new home, could he come
Speaker 5: in if Marsha if the Coning comes in, will Marshall
Speaker 5: want to leave? So I'm just wondering the off season
Speaker 5: of ruckman I've talked about not many change clubs. You've
Speaker 5: got a real issue at AFL level where you've got
Speaker 5: one ruck that can play really and then the second
Speaker 5: one just has to sitting white. So that's why they
Speaker 5: change clubs so often. And if I'm Freeman, I know
Speaker 5: it gets talked about a lot. You don't have a
Speaker 5: ruckman in Darcy on a million dollars, but it's a
Speaker 5: number two ruckman, so he's the other one. You get
Speaker 5: someone in who's on four hundred or five hundred to
Speaker 5: be your number two ruckman.
Speaker 1: So you can't go with two ruckstars, not.
Speaker 5: At that big, bigger money. So I think that's all
Speaker 5: they've got to look at it.
Speaker 9: There's something intriguing and I'm ever going to throw in
Speaker 9: the world admirable in my eyes with what Freeman was
Speaker 9: doing because it is so different to what every other
Speaker 9: club is doing.
Speaker 11: According to what you were saying, they wanted to do it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and it didn't even last a season, did it
Speaker 9: before they abandoned the Brody Grundy plan with Mex Admirable.
Speaker 2: Daymo though if it's not working, like it seems that
Speaker 2: Jackson only plays his best when Darcy's not.
Speaker 1: There, it does.
Speaker 9: But if you go back two weeks where they both
Speaker 9: went against Tristan Cherry and Tristan Cherry, I still think
Speaker 9: more than hell it he's on in the game, but
Speaker 9: Freemantle won the game by a kick and it required
Speaker 9: both of them to negate him in ways other clubs
Speaker 9: able to do. And the other reason I'm still keen
Speaker 9: on seeing how it works, Sam is the lack of
Speaker 9: match fitness and injury problems that Sean.
Speaker 11: Darcy has had.
Speaker 9: We may just be about to see a Sean Darcy
Speaker 9: without those problems, and I think only then can we
Speaker 9: make a true judgment honor. This club is on a
Speaker 9: five win streak, Darcy is clearly part of their plans,
Speaker 9: and that man on screen was best on ground by
Speaker 9: a mile in the most recent game and has put
Speaker 9: together an amazing six weeks of football when it's all
Speaker 9: sit and done.
Speaker 7: And I'm with you, Daman, I just haven't seen enough
Speaker 7: of the Darcy Jackson combination. And you hear people at
Speaker 7: Freeman To talk about that they can see Jackson as
Speaker 7: being or we've been, the biggest midfielder as a pure
Speaker 7: midfielder running around the ground. He is excellent in the ruck,
Speaker 7: but I just need to see a bigger body at work.
Speaker 7: The two of them actually fit, playing and firing.
Speaker 5: I don't need to see anymore.
Speaker 2: That's got the fact that who do you move on
Speaker 2: that Darcy and keep Jackson even though Jackson's one that
Speaker 2: wants to go.
Speaker 7: Yes, are you saying this is purely like as a
Speaker 7: salary cap issue, seeking that.
Speaker 5: Much and just set I just don't think it works.
Speaker 5: I think that ruckman only want to be number one.
Speaker 5: They don't want to share it. I think or Ruckman
Speaker 5: even whenever Pitt Neck gets picked the car, I don't
Speaker 5: think it's worked. I think the coning Sherry is a
Speaker 5: big man might not have worked on the weekend, but
Speaker 5: you just have the number one ruckman, and because the
Speaker 5: second ruckman can't do much anywhere.
Speaker 1: I'm with you. It just seems strange that Jackson's the
Speaker 1: one who wants out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I suppose I'd hold him. I'd hold him
Speaker 5: to his contract. Such good football at the moment you
Speaker 5: don't let him go.
Speaker 2: Tell you who was also playing good football, and that's
Speaker 2: North Melbourne. And I nearly coughed up my weedies yesterday
Speaker 2: listening to you on the Sunday Footy Show.
Speaker 1: You've completely turned.
Speaker 11: On North Sam. I've turned over the course of eight.
Speaker 1: Weeks, he's jumped back on the bandwagon.
Speaker 6: Maybe passport not you've turned.
Speaker 9: You add two weeks to the six weeks of the
Speaker 9: passport and at night, And I say that because the
Speaker 9: eight matches they've played since the debarkle of Good Friday,
Speaker 9: three wins.
Speaker 11: Wonder all the draw coming against last year's premiers. And
Speaker 11: I look the fact.
Speaker 9: They've lost four matches too, but three of them have
Speaker 9: been by single digit losses. Amongst those eight asues that
Speaker 9: I refer to, there's now a body of work that
Speaker 9: suggested has changed. And maybe it took eight weeks for
Speaker 9: me to get mad around that. And I don't back
Speaker 9: away from that because we hadn't seen it and a
Speaker 9: sustained period under elat it should it be happening.
Speaker 5: I know you shouldn't just happen. But with what they've
Speaker 5: had with obviously Fino'sullivan.
Speaker 6: Ward earlier.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so they can only improve really with the prime
Speaker 5: real estate they had in those midfields.
Speaker 2: They've got some weaponry they have, they just need to
Speaker 2: start putting it into wins and losses.
Speaker 9: We've done that now for eight weeks in their defense,
Speaker 9: so let's see them sustain it for the remain of
Speaker 9: the year.
Speaker 11: There's another nine matches.
Speaker 5: Let's se how they go and Alistair Clarkson spoke after
Speaker 5: the game, Sam, and what I found really interesting was
Speaker 5: how they got it wrong in the last quarter.
Speaker 6: See he looked flat. He looked a flat coach with how.
Speaker 5: They finished the game in that they didn't go in
Speaker 5: for the kill and they tried to save the game.
Speaker 17: Look at the look at the tape and try and
Speaker 17: work out what happened in the last floor and the
Speaker 17: teams challenges like that. We probably are out the folders,
Speaker 17: really out the fault. Should better go back at them
Speaker 17: just as quick as well.
Speaker 6: They're coming come with us.
Speaker 17: We just probably held onto the ball a little bit,
Speaker 17: a little bit too much. But bottom mine is no
Speaker 17: one I really want to focus on that as much
Speaker 17: as what we did to put ourselves in a position.
Speaker 6: To win the game of footy in the first place.
Speaker 17: You're tough and hard, really really strong footy on the
Speaker 17: performance today. Let's go have a spell tonight, enjoy the
Speaker 17: enjoy the win, and then let's start chasing the Hawks
Speaker 17: for next week.
Speaker 11: Good stuff.
Speaker 2: Todd Vaidy right at the end, trying to I'll tell
Speaker 2: you what though, Jimmy, if I'm a North Melbourne fan
Speaker 2: watching that, I'm loving that more than just a rah
Speaker 2: Raths beach like that was okay, boys, we won, but
Speaker 2: I didn't love how we finished the game, and we
Speaker 2: want to work on it. That's a team that feels
Speaker 2: to me that wants to go way.
Speaker 1: Up the ladder.
Speaker 7: Great delivery, highlight what we did to get ourselves in
Speaker 7: that position. Still room for improvement, but let's still celebrate
Speaker 7: because winning an RFL football is tough and you should
Speaker 7: enjoy it.
Speaker 8: I really like that.
Speaker 1: See what we really like even more?
Speaker 2: That's the Sledgehammer. It's coming up next with Matthew Lloyd.
Speaker 2: Plus it's a good core bad called the Cook and a
Speaker 2: whole lot more.
Speaker 1: You're watching foot glass blind.
Speaker 5: The Cats had a rare poor night at GIMHBA Stadium
Speaker 5: on Friday Ninals. Two of their veterans who let them
Speaker 5: down in periods. So Tom Stewart, if you've got cam
Speaker 5: Rainer and you go to the contest, you must impact.
Speaker 5: He didn't, but Reiner will make your pay. So he's
Speaker 5: an absolute ripper. Cam Rainer, brilliant game he was on
Speaker 5: Friday Night, twenty nine disposed and a few goals have
Speaker 5: to do more.
Speaker 6: What about this from dangerfield?
Speaker 5: You have to make body contact with Starsovich bumpa bar him,
Speaker 5: not let him through, he doesn't, just lets him run past.
Speaker 6: I love that.
Speaker 5: They then used him to punish dangerfield inside forward fifty.
Speaker 5: They were flying Brisbane the other night. Mac Andrew, jeez,
Speaker 5: he's a ratic in his game.
Speaker 6: So what is that? So bend down, pick the ball up.
Speaker 5: We watched it on replay again, just an absolute brain fade.
Speaker 5: And then later on this should go ten rowsback, doesn't
Speaker 5: spoil that ball. Jakie Stringer picks it up and makes
Speaker 5: him pay. So just not consistent enough. Well couldn't No
Speaker 5: Ranathan be the All Australian captain this year and it's
Speaker 5: moments like this that he is flying, so he can
Speaker 5: do it offensively, but defensively that's one of the great chases.
Speaker 5: So he was miles away, wasn't entitled to have to
Speaker 5: do that, but he just does.
Speaker 6: It really, really well.
Speaker 5: So the Bombers they go backwards more than any other
Speaker 5: team in the competition.
Speaker 6: So here's Ben.
Speaker 5: Hobbs, look at what he's got on in the corridor,
Speaker 5: but they just retreat and go back and back. So
Speaker 5: Jimmy just touched on it earlier with the Blues. So
Speaker 5: they're in a position they don't need to be that
Speaker 5: should have been in the corridor, and then going forward,
Speaker 5: so then they find their way in trouble. He's a
Speaker 5: second or third game player. He then goes backwards, another
Speaker 5: player going backwards and then McGrath gets caught when they
Speaker 5: just did not need to be in that position. Well,
Speaker 5: speaking of Carlton, it's all about your skill and your fundamentals. Fumble.
Speaker 5: They fumbled and fumbled and full credit to north dockety
Speaker 5: shocking moment. All these led to goals. And then this
Speaker 5: last one here from Hewart, just absolute panic fumble. That
Speaker 5: was three in a row from Carlton which coughed goals.
Speaker 5: And it's often the fundamentals with hurt you in a game.
Speaker 5: I love Dan Dame Rampy, He's had to do so
Speaker 5: much for his club and his team over the years.
Speaker 5: Undersize so turnover his ability to react so quickly and spoil,
Speaker 5: which a lot of players would just sag off and
Speaker 5: go he's not my man. And then it turned in
Speaker 5: the Swans of Old off the back of a big spoil,
Speaker 5: assertive defense. Grundy good give it to the runners. Often
Speaker 5: he doesn't do that over the top to Brandon Campbell.
Speaker 5: So the Swans were back and I hope it can
Speaker 5: continue for them in the run to finals.
Speaker 1: And we hope the sledgehammick can continue. That is amazing vision.
Speaker 2: You always you always finds stuff that others don't like.
Speaker 2: That rampy stuff amazing. And if you're able to sledge
Speaker 2: hammer danger field in game three fifty and get away.
Speaker 7: With well, I could watch that Noah Anderson clip Tom
Speaker 7: and Tyle and that was magnificent.
Speaker 1: Hicar, We're in that beautiful Gunsey.
Speaker 6: That was great.
Speaker 1: Hey, Time for the tab at top three. Dame O
Speaker 1: did kick things off, Damian your prediction, Yeah for.
Speaker 9: This Carlton in the Porta lad game Sam with Jacob
Speaker 9: Wiedering a bit banged up.
Speaker 11: I'm going for Mitch.
Speaker 9: Georgiardi, who I love watching play footy kicking fine.
Speaker 1: Why stay by Jimmy.
Speaker 8: I am going There will be a hug at the
Speaker 8: end of the game.
Speaker 7: Ken Hinckley is a big hugger, Michael Voss who spent
Speaker 7: a lot of time under Ken Hinckley. Of course, it'll
Speaker 7: be two coaches who'll be under the pup and I
Speaker 7: think they'll embrace.
Speaker 11: He'll be consoling predicting a hug. Yeah, yeah, who's going
Speaker 11: to make the consult.
Speaker 9: I love the coach on the bench who's winning the game,
Speaker 9: Carlton and.
Speaker 5: Lord, I've gone Rosie Bog just because he's got what
Speaker 5: Carlton don't have, so the speed, the dynamic nature.
Speaker 6: I think he'll be too good in Portal.
Speaker 2: Within that is our top three round sixteen. Of course,
Speaker 2: it kicks off Thursday. For that game that Jimmy Laudo
Speaker 2: were talking about. It is Adelaide Oval. It's Ken and
Speaker 2: port taking on Vossi and the Bluese. More fully classified
Speaker 2: after the break, we're.
Speaker 1: Going to futty classify. Jimmy Bartell has the new boy.
Speaker 2: Jimmy the arc sponsor clearly hasn't been getting enough love lately.
Speaker 1: Good call or bad.
Speaker 8: Call, Well, let's have a look at the footage hand
Speaker 8: before I.
Speaker 7: Make my mind, but I think it might be onto something.
Speaker 7: Of course, long kicking here, the go umpire does a
Speaker 7: fantastic job, gets into a great position. But then what
Speaker 7: are we doing with a score review? Maybe the sponsorship
Speaker 7: we just haven't seen enough of it.
Speaker 8: There we go very cical from you, very If you're.
Speaker 7: Going to pay for a sponsorship, you don't pay for
Speaker 7: it not to be seen.
Speaker 9: Sam, this is to you. You would want Jared Heally
Speaker 9: with you in the trenches. Good cool, bad call.
Speaker 2: I think that's a really nasty que because I think
Speaker 2: it's sarcastic. I think you're referring to this.
Speaker 14: You see they're eighty four as Bedford tries to flick
Speaker 14: it on ambitious.
Speaker 1: That's rubbish.
Speaker 6: That was rubbish he did said, got a handle on that.
Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, I'm with you hundred percent. Let's have
Speaker 1: a look at Bedford. Let's have a look.
Speaker 2: I would always want to be in the trenches with Jared.
Speaker 2: I could count on one hand the number of times
Speaker 2: he's wrong.
Speaker 5: And that what you want, Hey fox Foot, he needs
Speaker 5: be more subtle. Good call, bad cop.
Speaker 9: Now it's a bad call, but take a listen to
Speaker 9: actually know this was this division of the mac the ground.
Speaker 11: When they are at the ground this year in twenty
Speaker 11: twenty five.
Speaker 9: They need to let the viewers and beteam know so
Speaker 9: you can sometimes missit a bit of actions.
Speaker 11: Put the cameras on the book out.
Speaker 8: You're obsessed with hey Lloyd. The Suns must think their
Speaker 8: supporters have more dollars than cents.
Speaker 6: Good call, but good call.
Speaker 5: They were in pink about five or six weeks ago,
Speaker 5: and now they're in what I think is the West
Speaker 5: Coast Eagles colors. So find someone else's colors, not the
Speaker 5: West Coast Eagles.
Speaker 8: I like the glava.
Speaker 6: I didn't mind the glava either.
Speaker 5: I know they couldn't use it against the Giants, but
Speaker 5: I bad family members who aren't riding the football Satya.
Speaker 6: The Eagles are performing well this week.
Speaker 1: You are you're a modern man in almost every sense
Speaker 1: of the word.
Speaker 8: Yellows.
Speaker 1: You look ten years younger than you actually are, so
Speaker 1: much respect. You're completely at dark ages about it. Well,
Speaker 1: I get with the programs.
Speaker 5: I reckon that how are they go wearing black and
Speaker 5: white drinking coling of a cop.
Speaker 2: That I think they'd go pretty well wearing whatever color
Speaker 2: because the color that they wear does not matter.
Speaker 1: That's me, okay. Joel Lomardi Daimo needs to spend an
Speaker 1: hour with our man the SLEDG channel with a bad call.
Speaker 9: It's probably the best call of the offerings tonight because
Speaker 9: the zero goals six behind that he kicked and two
Speaker 9: others that didn't go near the goals at least made
Speaker 9: for a dreadful Nighty. He unfortunately couldn't even get the
Speaker 9: ball to spin properly on occasions. And there's no one
Speaker 9: better than the man to your left nine hundred and
Speaker 9: twenty six girls himself to fix.
Speaker 11: Up those problems.
Speaker 7: Thank you, Sam. I feel like this is a half
Speaker 7: folly for you. A SuperStar's free generosity only goes so far.
Speaker 8: Good call, bad call, And.
Speaker 2: I'm going to hit this one through the covers because
Speaker 2: this is a good call from you. And we're referring
Speaker 2: once again to our man. So this is this is
Speaker 2: after the game carton North Melboury.
Speaker 1: He's look at him. Look, I can take photo. H
Speaker 1: I'll take another one. Life too is in fight.
Speaker 2: Actually, I've had enough high phones. This might want to
Speaker 2: picture Knight. Just give your high five. I'll start running
Speaker 2: so loudo. You can get in one or two. But
Speaker 2: after that he starts charging and he runs.
Speaker 5: I can't argue with that. Jimmy, Jerrymy McGovern will be
Speaker 5: a walk up Hall of Famer.
Speaker 6: Good callback Ah.
Speaker 7: This is a good call from you, lloydy. But I
Speaker 7: am a biscall. I love the way Jerry McGovern has
Speaker 7: played his football with him all the best in Newstury
Speaker 7: time at five time all Australian Premiership player, one of
Speaker 7: this era's best key defenders of course, best and farish
Speaker 7: you name it.
Speaker 6: So yeah, good call from me, a lotto.
Speaker 11: To finish it off tonight.
Speaker 9: Daisy Thomas is using his mates as a smoke screen
Speaker 9: to get away.
Speaker 5: Is a good call by you. You know Daisy better
Speaker 5: than on this panel. Is a great man and I
Speaker 5: reckon this was his own gag, but tried to pass
Speaker 5: it off as one of his mates.
Speaker 15: I did get a message at halftime from one of
Speaker 15: my Tiger's mates who obviously wasn't loving the work of
Speaker 15: Mail Volta.
Speaker 5: Just have skins they could bring that court in imposed
Speaker 5: Curfield a little bit full.
Speaker 6: Well, that is.
Speaker 5: Harsh, he said, he can't throw it off any money
Speaker 5: of your mates.
Speaker 6: That we've just got to own that.
Speaker 2: Daisy, Wow, I can't think days we'll have a right
Speaker 2: of reply the clothing cook on the other side of
Speaker 2: the pretty.
Speaker 5: Classifot they say in television should never work with animals
Speaker 5: and kids, and that's where my cook centers around. Tonight,
Speaker 5: we'll go back to the nineteen seventy seven Grand Final.
Speaker 5: Peter Landy he wasn't happy with the kids in front of.
Speaker 13: Him North Melbourne, a little one there, and which leads
Speaker 13: us into what went on the Channel seven show yesterday
Speaker 13: where Trent Kotchen wasn't happy with his young fellow.
Speaker 8: The run with guns save you from potentially getting eating.
Speaker 5: Out of the way by trends. So kids and animals,
Speaker 5: Damien should not work.
Speaker 9: Two words pot Kettle on ambushing your own CosIng cooks
Speaker 9: doing this and you when your kids should have got
Speaker 9: the treatment that Peter Andy and Cootch and give those
Speaker 9: Look at Grand Smith here at the Wivestown Ian Rickman,
Speaker 9: the Great and Rickman. You're in the background. Marcus O'Connor
Speaker 9: here you're in the background again, and the Great Barry
Speaker 9: round you are ambushing their segments.
Speaker 11: You deserve that treatment that Peter Landy gave.
Speaker 6: Always wanted to be on television.
Speaker 11: It was nuffy.
Speaker 1: I can't believe that.
Speaker 6: I loved it.
Speaker 5: My greatest days at Point Jelly Brand, Williamstown watching the
Speaker 5: footy and then trying to get hang time at the
Speaker 5: end of it.
Speaker 1: So you've always been an attention to ego.
Speaker 8: Yeah probably, yeah, full forward and fall forward.
Speaker 5: It comes with the territory thirty seconds, throw the grass up,
Speaker 5: meet me.
Speaker 2: We've just got into the world footy. Close to fight
Speaker 2: tomorrow night, Tom Morris James heard Rory Sloan and Caltoomey again.
Speaker 1: That's at nine o'clock.
Speaker 2: But get set for the brand new show players. It
Speaker 2: starts now.
Speaker 11: We'll see