WEBVTT - HQ, Hawks & Swans 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:03.160 Well, it was only four days ago that the leader 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:06.440 of our game, Andrew Dillon, announced a major restructure in 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:09.440 his executive team. As we go to where tonight, one 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:12.400 of the two new positions has already been filled, with 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:16.680 longtime Brisbane Chief executive Greek Swan joining AFL House at 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:18.720 the end of next month. And as we're about to 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:22.400 tell you, the league headquarters is closing in on position 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:46.159 number two. Get set. This is fully classified. Good evening everyone, 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:49.800 and welcome to fully classified significant news. We begin with 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:52.919 tonight with change of foot at AFL House. Let's get 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.640 into it. Our panel has assembled. We start with the 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:58.200 longtime newsbreaker, one of the best journos in the country, 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:00.640 Damian Barrett, Damo, great to have you, exampt the triple 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:02.800 Premiership player, the enormous fifth medalost the bran let made us, 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:05.440 Jimmy Bartel Jim welcome you, even Exam and the Essendon 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:08.040 legend himself, a man who is a twelve time leading 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.840 goalkick at Matthew Lord Wardo, great to have you, thanks Am, Damia. 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:13.280 We begin at AFL House and as you just heard, 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:17.039 one of those two significant positions has been filled Greg Swan. 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:19.280 He's on his way from Brisbane. Yeah, we'll start in 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:20.080 late July. 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:23.600 Sam officially announced today had broken some weeks ago in 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:27.120 the days after the debucle that was the Luckey Shul's 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:30.440 concussion fallout and the communication issues the AFL had on 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:33.240 that Greg swan here on Grand Final Day twenty twenty 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:35.199 three and then how happy at Greg swine run Grand 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:38.200 Final Day twenty twenty four. But he's got a commitment 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:41.399 to review the entirety of the Football Operations department. He's 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:43.479 going to have a particular focus on the Match Review Office 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:47.760 and the tribunal setup and also the umpiring department. Has 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:50.600 been a universally well received Sam, which is unusual in 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:53.560 a football appointment itself. But Jimmy tell him, I mean 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:56.120 you're the most recent involved that club. Leve will tell 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:57.680 him look down the barrel and tell him what he 0:01:57.720 --> 0:01:58.120 needs to do. 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:00.880 First, I think you start to touch on it. Give 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:03.600 Chris a proper matrix to work with. We all agree 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:05.880 that the matrix is not working, especially with the football 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:08.600 and non football acts. We can't have situations where we're 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:10.640 going that's going to be zero or three weeks. That 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:13.320 just reflects it's out of whack. So fix the matrix, 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:16.040 give Chris O something to work with. Support your umpires 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:17.840 and you don't have to say they're the best they 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:20.079 ever been. You can support them and you can say, look, 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:23.160 we're always looking for constant improvement. Bring the fans along 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:25.480 with you, so stand in front of the microphone, be 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:27.880 good in front of the microphone and the medium. Bring 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:29.840 them along for the ride. It is the fans game. 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.400 Talk to them about rules, talk to them about rule changes, 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:35.320 what you envisage the game to be. And clubs act 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:38.359 with strength and speed. I've written down here. Whatever decisions 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:40.640 you make, do it quicker. Bring the clubs along, seek 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:42.920 their advice, but still be strong enough to say no, 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:45.639 but still be brave enough to say yes, depending on. 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:47.800 What clubs you're talking with, or a holistic approach. 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:51.000 And nnga's and academies, of course they're a big talking point, 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:53.240 but they're separate points. Don't try and group them all 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:56.160 together because father sons is different. Pull them off the shelf, 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:59.000 pick them apart, come to a really good solution, a 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:00.840 real neat solution with all of those, and I think 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:01.839 we can move forward from there. 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:03.200 Well summed up to you. Me and I think their 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:05.800 clubs just want communication, the fans want better to be 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:08.760 communicated better with Dame. How often can you see Greg 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.440 Swan being put out there to answer questions I would 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:12.040 say regularly. 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:12.760 Yeah. 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:14.520 And then the clubs that I've spoken to today I've 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:16.280 already said they want him to do that, just to 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:19.239 nip things in the bar and to open up communications 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:22.800 far better than they had been under the previous arrangement. 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:25.520 So that's the second petition, that's Head of Footy. They 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:28.080 still want the lookout for a COO. That has been 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.920 a short list of three men up until tonight. Simon Garlic, 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:33.560 I can tell you, has removed himself from contention, so 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:36.200 it's now Tom Harley, who seems to be the overwhelming 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:40.280 favorite the Sydney CEO. So we could have a situation 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:43.480 where the last two Grand finalists in Sydney and Brisbane, 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.200 both CEOs go to the AFL and a meet Baines, 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:48.320 the Western Bolldocks Chief executive, also not out of the running. 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:50.040 Yeah, and there might be one more phone call mate 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:54.000 to Stuart Fox of the mc gu mcc trust. He 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:57.200 was a person of interest early day Sam and the ramifications. 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:58.960 If it is Tom Harley and You're right, there is 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:02.320 significant interesting as we speak tonight in him for the 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:03.960 Swans with Dean Cox's struggles. 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:04.920 We'll talk about that soon. 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:07.600 We'll get to the Swan's soon, but first we're going 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:10.040 to begin with the Hawks from a footy perspective. You've 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.960 been hot on them for weeks now, a season in 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.760 which started with so much promise. It feels like it's 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:17.800 beginning to unravel. Is that too dramatic? Yeah? 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:20.880 Not really In unraveling terms of winning the premiership. I 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.200 think you're spot on. Now. It's about can they consolidate 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:25.200 and try and make the finals. That's where it's fallen too. 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:28.159 For Hawthorne. Yeah, turned up on Friday night, we did, 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:30.679 and we were all talking about it, me, you and Jimmy. 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:33.560 Actually we're talking about is this the night that Hawthorne 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:35.800 turned things around? And they put up a fight for 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:38.159 a quarter and that was it. They fell apart after 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:40.360 quarter of time. And you look at the drop off. 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:42.480 I think it's just not one thing, but we start 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:44.760 with individuals and there's been a big drop off in 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:47.159 so many and you look at the red that's a 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:50.479 negative and I just wonder what baras and battle you know, 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:53.000 I think they should have only taken one of them. 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:56.440 And hindsight's not a it's just not a hindsight thing. 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:58.680 I thought that maybe you put your feelers out for two, 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:00.840 and I think they only I think that over walked 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:03.360 it cooked. I don't think they needed both of them. 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:04.600 You already had Frosty. 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:06.279 Their were warning them earlier in. 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:08.279 The year, both of them. I don't think. I think 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:10.239 it's what it's the spinoff. I don't think they're playing 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:12.520 well together as a group. And then this is system. 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:16.520 So the criticism was they laid thirty eight tackles, but 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.039 look at how many tackles they can't even get to 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:21.440 because of the system of Collingwood or the most well 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:24.680 drilled team in the competition versus a team that is 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:26.920 at sixes and sevens where they don't know what to do. 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.599 Do we come forward? Do we hold back? So they've 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:33.360 got a backline who aren't connecting. They've got a midfield 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.159 to me, who's you know, McKenzie's out of the side 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:38.440 wards just not quite up to it. Warpole is he 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:41.320 a B greater? Connor Nash is he a B greater? 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.680 So with no will Day, suddenly they've been exposed with 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.640 too much on Yukum, and then there's a forward line 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:51.680 that suddenly you're going are they selfish? Do they connect 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.000 well enough for each other? So there's a number of 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.360 issues both six system and individually for Harb. 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:59.520 The disruption of those acquisitions of Barasen Battle has impacted 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:01.840 the captain James siss There is no dispute about that. 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:05.080 Sam Mitchell was very defensive about that. Understandably, we get it. 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.200 This is him last week, and then you've also got 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:09.200 one of the greatest of all time, if not the greatest, 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.440 lead Matthew's querying the impact he's having. 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:14.160 No the groin's up on issue. He's I mean, he's 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:15.800 working really hard on his game. I thought he played 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:17.360 really well last week. 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:18.000 He's he's. 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:20.480 The thing about Siss is he's led us really well 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:26.159 through at the moment. His leadership has been really strong 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:28.480 through the tougher periods in particularly look at the last 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.359 couple of years when we've really needed players to stend up. 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:32.400 He's often been that guy. 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:34.880 So I look at his leadership and I'm really pleased 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:36.640 that he's captain of the club and that we've got 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:38.479 him doing the things that he's doing. Has he played 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:40.440 perfect footed this year? No, of course not, but no 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:41.480 one has well. 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:43.440 I think when you look at Hawthorpe and as a 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:47.000 collective individually, I mean she's having a really bad year. 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:50.440 And then you get to the post match after Friday 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.279 Night's loss and this is a pictures coming out of 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:56.039 the Hawthorne rooms. There was an hour long debrief of 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:57.640 sorts and you can see the captain there. I mean 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:00.880 that's understandable given his own form and only the for 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:02.800 disposal he had in that particular game. 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:04.400 And failure to impact Jimmy. 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:06.640 What do you see when you see James Sisley in 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:07.880 twenty twenty five to this point? 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:10.800 Yeah, look at I think you mentioned the additional players, 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:12.960 but I think he is one of many players where 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:15.640 the opposition's gone to work and it's impacting his game 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:19.680 style and that fastball tempo speed which I've highlighted a 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:21.960 number of times, and Lloyd you touch on the stuff 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:22.880 around the contest. 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:25.560 For me, Hawthorne, the opposition's. 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.040 Taking the speed out of the game and they're restricting 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.600 the little easy release marks which when they get them, 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:32.800 they put incredible amount of speed on the game. And 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:34.520 that's why Dylan Moore is not getting as much of 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:37.520 the footy. Imp and aim one of course, rebounding off 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:39.520 half back and Brosio is another one. 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:41.160 So sides are saying, well, we're going. 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.760 To pick our poison here, We're going to foreship to 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:46.160 kick long slow down the line, and where Hawthorne lacking 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:49.080 a little bit is key forwards or big guys down 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:51.560 the line. So they're taking the speed out of the game, 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:54.680 and he's one guy in particular who is struggling a 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:56.120 bit when the game is getting slowed down. 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:57.120 The moment you see the right. 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:01.000 Captain, well, you'd say, yetlast year I thought he stood 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:03.600 up really well Sam when they weren't going well after 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:05.680 five rounds, he came on and did an interview with 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:08.840 us and was good. He spoke openly and he had 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.720 a wonderful season. So it's too soon to say he's 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:14.640 not the right captain. But I still feel he's very temperamental, 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:19.640 so I don't think sometimes as a captain he's balanced 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:21.440 enough for even that in the room. So I don't 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:22.880 think as a captain you have your head in your 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:26.040 hands after the game. I think that's not a motion. 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.720 You've got to be strong for everyone. You get up 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.480 and you get around and you start talking to others 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:33.720 around you when it's different. It's what I loved about 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:35.880 James Hurd was I would never have known what day 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:38.240 he was having, whether he's having a poor day or 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:40.079 a good day. He was just he was the voice 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:42.240 of reason. He was the calmness in the room for 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:44.520 us all. And I just wondered with Sister, I don't 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:46.040 think he's a forward, so I think they've got to 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.920 stop throwing him down there. He's a surprise forward. He's 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:51.320 not a starting forward. And I just remember what Geelong 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.640 did with Tom Stewart last year and how they helped 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:56.400 get him back into form. I just wonder if you 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.520 get him in the midfield rolling back, just surprise the 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:01.600 opposition with how supporting James. 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.040 There's more problems than just the captain, isn't there? Dade? Yeah, 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.360 And we do start having conversations when things are going 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:09.000 wrong about have they been worked out? Haven't listened to 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:11.679 a couple of their opponents, first Brody my check from 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:15.920 the weekend and then the superstar Jewel Brownlow medallist Locke Neil. 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.120 We knew they were going to try and test our 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:21.080 tackles tonight, so were. 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:23.720 Practicing all week for the little slip of the elbows. 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:27.160 We reviewed sort of their technique on how to draw 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:29.120 the high free kicks. So yeah, we watched a fair 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:31.280 bit of tape on them, and they've got a few 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:33.280 guys that are really high in the competition, I think 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:36.319 to the top ten for free kicks for high tackles. 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.360 So we went to work on that and I thought 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:39.959 we executed really well on the weekend. 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:43.160 So as Jimmy and what I've already explained and exposed 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.200 some of their secrets, other clubs are clearly picking up 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:46.960 on what made them such a good team in that 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.680 run home to the twenty twenty four final series. Have 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:52.360 you got a solution for them? Can they change? Because 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:54.240 it is hard to change in season and they need 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:54.679 to change. 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.720 By your report, I think they're far better than what 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:00.800 they're showing. So Sat Mitchell, he's been lauded as a 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.280 good coach. He's going to he's been challenged more so 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:05.520 than ever before, and I think they can turn it around. 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.240 Interesting to look back Jimmy as well on jack In, 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:10.200 but we know at a great start on the weekend. 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:12.559 I think he kicked three in the first half. This 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:14.280 is the difference in from when he was playing at 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.839 Collingwood to early days at Hawthorne, and when you look 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:18.880 at it and listen to this through the prism of 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:21.240 what happened on the weekend, it's fairly interesting. 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:25.880 Collingwand's very structure system and it's very hard to be 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:28.760 a forward at Collingwood. Sometimes there's a few dark days 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:32.760 where you know you're just wearing the invisible cloak. But Hawthorne, 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:34.679 which has been so great for me, you're allowed to 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:38.000 be free and you can go and change over patterns 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:40.760 and stuff. For at Collingwood you're stuck on one side 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:41.480 and things like that. 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.640 So Jimmy Lloydy one he's talking about freedom and the 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:46.840 other one he's talking about system. 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:48.520 Yeah, I think it's a win win for both. 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:50.400 If he likes to play with freedom and he thinks 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:52.800 to Hawks give him that freedom and Collingwood I think 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:54.920 when we need guys to play their role in structure 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:57.959 and be in the positions we want. But what it 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:01.280 pans out Lloydy for colling it is it doesn't matter 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:03.520 whose night it is, but someone's going to hit the scoreboard. 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.120 And Bobby Hill is one who he could kick four 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:07.920 or five or it could set up four or five. 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:10.160 And at the moment the hottest man is Jamie Elliott, 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:11.960 so they give him the goal square when he gets 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:12.640 the right matchup. 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:15.199 Just on what he said though, like this is how 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:18.200 well Collingwood are going. Hawthorne had one more inside fifty 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:21.600 on the night yet lost by fifty one points and 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:23.880 that was as much about system as anything. That's how 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:27.640 far advanced Collingwood wor than Hawthorne. And even sam Mitchell said, 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:29.760 that's the spread of goalkickers. They all play their role. 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:32.640 Sam Mitchell said Brisbane or Good the week before, but 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:35.360 what we just played was to another level. And that's 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:37.280 just where Collingwood is at. And the full credit the 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:38.800 Craig mccraney's coaching staff. 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:41.800 Speaking of system the Sydney Swans, I can't believe we're 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.440 saying this a bereft of system right now. In fact, 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.920 they're bereft of quite a few things. And it's Scott 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:50.840 Dean Cox, their new coach, using words that we haven't 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.920 associated with the Sydney Swans for quite some time. 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:59.760 It was unacceptable and embarrassing. 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:01.920 As a football club, you want to make sure that 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:06.120 you're as consistent connected and compete together. 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:09.079 You know, I'm such a massive night for the footy 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:11.320 club when you have a twenty year reunion for a 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:14.480 team that played desperate. 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:18.960 Uncompromising, ruthless football and that was that far from it. 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:22.479 When it is true back and get to work real quick. 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:28.640 Everyone, you can sort of feel it as a group. 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:30.760 You know, we're all over. 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:32.559 In the first half and you know that was sort 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.679 of a bit of a rabble just hearing from. 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:38.080 Them on ground. They are a proud footy club, the 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:40.520 Sydney Swan, so it's doing a hard watch this year 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:43.960 to see how far they've fallen. And to me, the 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:46.280 area is that's a defense that's a real issue and 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:48.880 that's where a starting point. So if you haven't got 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:51.120 your stars up forward, you can still defend the ground 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:53.800 and that was their focus in pre season. We've heard 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:55.719 a lot about it from the players right throughout the year. 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:59.560 I think the best sides in the world defend really 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:03.280 well first and that's one thing that this club's always 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:05.720 done and one thing whilst I'm here will continue to do. 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:08.680 There'd just be some little subtle adjustments within that and 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:09.760 the way we do defend. 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:14.040 We in certain areas of the ground on the. 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.480 Way we defend, you know, I think probably towards the 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.640 back in the last year and certainly the last day 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:20.200 was not the level we want. 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:22.080 Yeah, I think it comes back to defense. 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:23.960 Loydy. I think in the first sort of half of 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:26.640 the season we'll getting scored against too much and we 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:28.160 sort of had to look at that and yeah, we 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:31.080 really want to defend our fifty and defend the ground 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:31.480 really well. 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:33.719 Obviously we haven't defended the way we've liked over the 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:36.400 last probably this season. We're not able to stop teams 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:38.760 and previously in the past when we're making the same 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:42.000 error as that intense and defensive structure and just want 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:45.040 to defend, but been able to stop those quickly. 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.000 So as we watch the vision from the weekend, so 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:49.280 they can see one hundred and nine v. Collingwood in 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:52.800 round five, one hundred and seventeen, the Suns in round seven, 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:55.800 one hundred and thirty one v. Melbourne last week, and 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:58.240 then one hundred and thirty one is in me against 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:01.480 the Crows on the weekend. To both like the way 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:03.400 they're setting up with their defense. It looks like they're 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:05.640 in between systems. Some are doing man or man. 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:08.840 Some are taking space, but then also their ball movement 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.520 as well. Lloydy, I've heard you touch on it, especially 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:13.880 last year is one of the best kicking sides you'd 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:14.960 seen in quite some time. 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:16.120 And their ball use. 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:18.439 They're getting the ball turned over in bad parts of 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:20.400 the ground and they're getting scored against on the rebound. 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:23.480 So there's a few problems. Leadership is now clearly one 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:25.600 of them. Obviously John long White choosing to stand down 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:28.080 late after the Grand Final period of last year, and 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:31.240 prior to that moment they'd lost Charlie Gardner's football operations boss. 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:34.160 We've just spoken before about the possibilities of Tom Harley 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:36.239 being a focus of the AFL operations. 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:37.800 You've got Andrew Priddam. 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:40.120 Who who is a very very successful businessman and a 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.920 great president of that football club, but he's got at 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:47.200 least a partial eye on the potential opening in the AFL. 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:48.080 Commission Chairman's splot. 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:50.160 A lot of change, there's a lot of change, yeah, 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:53.240 And I'm not saying that Pudham's focus on that AFL 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:56.680 chairman potential role is detracting from the Swans, but it's 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:58.920 just another leader who has got something else on his 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:00.600 mind when it comes to a football role. 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:03.440 They're the four most important pillars and when Frank Costa 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:06.760 was president of Geelong he was always adamant that you 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.160 have to nail those pillars and they have to be 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:11.840 stable and stable for quite some time. So when you 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.000 make those appointments, you're expecting them to stay there for 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.840 five six plus years and if there is some movement there, 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:18.120 it can rock the boat. 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:20.400 It's a great point that Jimmy and Damo make about 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:23.040 the potential of lack of stability, and even that the 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:25.600 change over to the captain Calum Mills. And now I 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:27.680 know he's had injuries and a lot of that's out 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:29.480 of his control, but just watching him in the back 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:30.800 of the box on the weekend, it. 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:32.800 Isn't any control though, Sam. When it does happen on 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:34.680 a mad Monday incident. I mean I was critical at 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:37.080 the time of that, and that has ruined his career 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.280 from that point onwards. He hasn't been able to get 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:42.000 the continuity, initially from the shoulder damage sustained in that 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:44.200 moment and then the soft issues that have come as. 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:46.720 I think you're spot on it. It's a shocking starters, captain, 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:47.080 isn't it? 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.600 Oh? It is he can't take a trick and a 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:52.200 Calum Mills and it's getting to a point where I 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:54.400 don't know's he got one more crack out it next year? 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:56.160 And if you can't get some kind of use, so 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:58.520 you just worry about playing football or getting your body right, 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.880 because it's no fun you you just got to focus 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:02.520 on playing footy. 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:05.200 Now, over to the Blues. They didn't play on the weekend, 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:07.760 which means they didn't lose, but they are still in 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:11.400 their headlines because you're reporting last week sent tongues wagging 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:15.480 across the AFL landscape as to whether one, two, maybe 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:18.880 even three of their superstar contracted players could be up 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:19.240 for traph. 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.360 Yeah, we know that the Tom de cooning issue has 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:23.600 simmered and played out all year and there's no one 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:25.720 at the Carlton Footy Club who thinks he's staying at 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:27.840 this stage that they haven't given up hope, but they 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:30.480 know when you get to around thirteen and he's saying 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:33.520 no one thinks he's staying. Obviously, the reporting last week 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:37.280 was around the elevation of Graham right into the CEO chair, 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:39.560 and I believe it's going to happen in July now 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.520 The official line will be that Brian Cook will see 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:44.120 sees or released opportunity on that in October. 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.200 But it's happened already. The decision has been made for 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:46.880 twenty twenty six. 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:49.640 Gram right, isn't agents have changed and they've got some 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.680 big name players on big name contracts, and I've got 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:54.760 no doubt. In fact, I know that if a club 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.400 was to come to the Carlton Footy Club and put 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:00.200 Graham right in front of him with a feasible offer 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:02.640 for some of those names, he will engage well. 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:03.600 Kelon O and MacKaye. 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:07.040