WEBVTT - Getting Bashed at Redfern & Surviving the Dogs of War 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:11.920 Hi everyone. Welcome to the Monday edition of Mark My 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:15.880 Words Story time and Your questions. We Love Mondays podcast 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:17.880 after a big weekend of footy. Hello, Emily. 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:18.680 Hello, Marcus. 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:19.400 Hello, piggy. 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:20.200 Hello, Levi. 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:22.639 Boys, I want to take you back to your football career. 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:26.560 First grade football. And I want you in story time 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:29.840 today to let us know the moment in your career 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:32.680 where you said, ah, dear, I'm playing first grade, the 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:36.440 welcome to first grade moment where you were absolutely rocked 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:38.960 by a veteran who gave you yours and what was 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:41.159 going through your head while you were looking up at 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:43.760 the sky. Uh, we all know the guys who trained 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:46.680 the house down, but who was the one teammate who, uh, 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:49.240 lived on meat pies, hated the gym, put zero effort 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:52.400 into training, but was completely untouchable on game two. 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:53.840 Different topics here. 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:56.040 All those different things. So we want we want to 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:58.120 know we're going to just have a little. 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:00.880 Bit of spitball. You want a spitball? Well, what you're 0:01:00.890 --> 0:01:03.730 welcome to first. Well, I played I played my first 0:01:03.730 --> 0:01:06.690 grade debut in 87. Was Against the Dogs of War. 0:01:06.730 --> 0:01:08.570 Can I interrupt for a sec? Yep. How many people 0:01:08.569 --> 0:01:11.130 in rugby league history do you reckon? Probably. Say to 0:01:11.130 --> 0:01:13.570 the story. To this day, my welcome to first grade 0:01:13.569 --> 0:01:15.490 moment was the day that m g lined me up 0:01:15.490 --> 0:01:16.250 and clocked me. 0:01:17.250 --> 0:01:19.610 I know two people who. Who said that? Really? Billy 0:01:19.610 --> 0:01:21.730 Moore said that? Really? And I think when he said 0:01:21.730 --> 0:01:24.170 it as well. Why? Because I played him in Perth 0:01:24.170 --> 0:01:27.970 and I said, kick that chubby bloke. But also at 0:01:27.970 --> 0:01:29.810 the end of my career, at the start of. Oh yeah. 0:01:29.850 --> 0:01:33.209 And like and, you know, things would have changed. But 0:01:33.250 --> 0:01:34.050 he was a great competitor. 0:01:34.090 --> 0:01:35.010 What was yours? MJ? Sorry. 0:01:35.209 --> 0:01:39.170 Um, I played against the Dogs of War. Uh, in 1987. 0:01:39.170 --> 0:01:42.730 They had Peter Kelly, Peter Tunks, Billy Johnson, or Mark Bugden, 0:01:42.730 --> 0:01:46.450 one of the two. Um, in the second row was Gillespie, 0:01:47.970 --> 0:01:51.210 Lang Blacklock. Jeez, they're just the best people in the centers. 0:01:51.210 --> 0:01:55.930 I had Farrah and Mortimer. And they were. And you 0:01:55.930 --> 0:01:59.530 know what? I got through it unscathed. I thought, that's wow. 0:01:59.890 --> 0:02:04.670 Dogs of war. The second game was against Rabbitohs at 0:02:04.670 --> 0:02:09.030 Redfern and I got the absolute shit bashed out of me. 0:02:09.070 --> 0:02:11.750 Can I guess all of them? Oh really? All of them. 0:02:11.790 --> 0:02:16.109 Les Davidson. David Boyle. Boyle. Chisholm. Uh. What was Boyle like? 0:02:16.550 --> 0:02:20.790 Full on. Oh, mate. Mate. He was my trainer. I 0:02:20.830 --> 0:02:24.030 got bashed, I got bashed, really? And I went, what 0:02:24.030 --> 0:02:27.350 the fuck is this game like after playing the first game, 0:02:27.389 --> 0:02:28.790 you go because it was a build up. I was 0:02:28.790 --> 0:02:32.830 19 and everyone's going, man, you know, you're you've got 0:02:32.830 --> 0:02:34.589 to be careful to put him. Like I was saying 0:02:34.590 --> 0:02:37.549 to Tim Sheens, where's your your duty of care with 0:02:37.550 --> 0:02:39.829 this this kid playing against the dogs of war man 0:02:39.870 --> 0:02:42.510 like and and that was okay. The the worst hit 0:02:42.510 --> 0:02:44.150 I got in that game was against Chris Mortimer. He 0:02:44.150 --> 0:02:46.230 hit me high and I thought, oh you know. But 0:02:46.230 --> 0:02:49.390 then the next week after I'm feeling bulletproof in the 0:02:49.389 --> 0:02:51.710 second or third tackle, I got tackled by one of them, 0:02:52.510 --> 0:02:54.510 the South Sydney pack. And then they just all laid 0:02:54.510 --> 0:02:57.430 into me, really. I played three runs that game. I 0:02:57.470 --> 0:03:02.440 shit myself, I went too hard. Fucking fuck. I'm not 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:05.040 playing that shit again. Almost. I almost want to give 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:08.120 it up. Nah, but I mean, I was, but that's 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:10.200 when you learn a lot. Such a big contrast from 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:12.400 the first week. I'm going. How easy is this? Yeah. 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:14.600 You know, I'm getting the papers. I'm. I'm. Yeah. Means 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:17.200 you have to ride the old buck, the young, whatever 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.800 they call them. Yep. Um, and then and then the 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:21.600 publicity got to my head and I played the second 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:24.320 week against the Rabbitohs at Redfern Oval and got the 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:25.480 best out of me. 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:27.480 Alright, can I throw another question at you off the 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:30.240 back of that. Yeah. So you're welcome to first grade moment. 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.560 Do you remember your first grade debut and what were 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:34.000 you like in the sheds before kick off? 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.720 Um, I of course you remember it. You remember your 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:40.000 first grade debut because it only happens once. Um, you 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:42.360 remember I remember being at training thinking that I can't 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:45.560 believe I'm playing with these blokes, you know, Alexander and 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:50.200 Izzard and um Geoff Gerard um and Roy Simmons and, 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:52.520 and you run out on the field and you go, wow, 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.840 this is just surreal. Um, and I was always, I 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:57.920 was always pretty nervous in the dressing room before a game, 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:01.480 no matter what it was. Um, I got worse as 0:04:01.500 --> 0:04:05.300 I got older. Because I think you lose. You realize 0:04:05.300 --> 0:04:08.100 that you're losing your powers. Um, there's only this kind 0:04:08.100 --> 0:04:10.900 of window of 5 or 6 years where you're, you're 0:04:10.900 --> 0:04:14.500 in the zone. And when you get outside of that, um, window, 0:04:14.500 --> 0:04:16.580 you kind of, you second guess yourself a little bit. 0:04:16.620 --> 0:04:18.339 Then you start to think, well, I've got to do 0:04:18.339 --> 0:04:21.060 something different. Maybe get pumped up a little bit differently, 0:04:21.300 --> 0:04:24.180 try a different drink before a game. Or I got 0:04:24.180 --> 0:04:28.500 a vitamin B shot just to, you know, get me going. And, but, um, 0:04:28.980 --> 0:04:31.739 I was okay before my debut because I was surrounded 0:04:31.740 --> 0:04:34.420 by guys who I knew would look after me. But 0:04:34.460 --> 0:04:36.740 as I got older, the more you play first grade, 0:04:36.740 --> 0:04:39.099 the more you know how hard this game is and 0:04:39.100 --> 0:04:40.820 the more nerves. You know, I was never one of 0:04:40.820 --> 0:04:43.740 them guys. I could never play. Every time I play 0:04:43.740 --> 0:04:45.500 a night game, I could never sleep through the day. 0:04:46.020 --> 0:04:49.140 Really never ever, ever slept right. And I never played 0:04:49.140 --> 0:04:52.779 many night games besides origin or not even semi semis 0:04:52.779 --> 0:04:55.380 were always 3:00. Yeah. So most of my games at 0:04:55.380 --> 0:04:59.060 3 p.m., um, on a Saturday or Sunday. Yeah. But 0:04:59.060 --> 0:05:03.750 when I come back from Perth in 1987, played for Penrith, 0:05:03.750 --> 0:05:04.990 who were playing a lot of night games, you know, 0:05:05.029 --> 0:05:09.270 and I remember me and Tony were roommates. Tony. Yeah. 0:05:09.589 --> 0:05:12.910 And he'd be snoring and I'm there going, oh fuck. 0:05:13.750 --> 0:05:16.110 For three hours man. I'm just nervous energy was that. 0:05:16.589 --> 0:05:19.510 But yeah, it just changes. But no, I wasn't that nervous. 0:05:19.510 --> 0:05:20.630 I yeah, right. 0:05:20.670 --> 0:05:22.710 I love I was, I was I was nervous when 0:05:22.710 --> 0:05:25.390 Marvin made his first grade debut. Were you oh my goodness. 0:05:25.430 --> 0:05:27.390 Because you I remember you. I remember seeing a clip. 0:05:27.390 --> 0:05:29.550 You got pretty emotional talking about like when he first 0:05:29.550 --> 0:05:31.390 got named to make his debut. Yeah. So what were 0:05:31.390 --> 0:05:33.470 you like when he made what? Just watching on in 0:05:33.470 --> 0:05:34.229 the stands and everything. 0:05:34.270 --> 0:05:36.150 Yeah, we drove down. We got we got bus fulls 0:05:36.150 --> 0:05:38.070 and we had shirts on and we had family members. 0:05:38.070 --> 0:05:41.669 We had friends. And I kind of rocked up to 0:05:41.670 --> 0:05:45.790 the game thinking, this is happening. Like my baby, you know, he's, 0:05:45.790 --> 0:05:50.229 he's my youngest boy who's, he's playing first grade. And 0:05:50.230 --> 0:05:52.309 you see so many of it happened to other mates 0:05:52.310 --> 0:05:55.150 of yours and ex teammates, ex ex opponents. And when 0:05:55.150 --> 0:05:56.830 it happens to you, it's just all surreal. 0:05:56.870 --> 0:05:58.430 Were you a blubbering mess on game day? 0:05:58.750 --> 0:06:03.239 You would have been for sure, I remember I, we 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.920 met at the Point Tavern, had about six beers. Calm 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.400 you down. Yeah. But then I had like. Then we 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:10.039 got stuck in traffic. I had to go to the toilet. 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.000 There was a bin on the on the bus, so 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:14.039 I had to straight in. 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:15.720 Yes. 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.440 And my wife's going, you dirty bastard! What are you doing? 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:20.880 Did you get to give him give him a big 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:21.960 hug at the at full time? 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:23.880 Well, um. Ivan, let us in the dressing room after 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.360 the game. Oh, yeah. We got a photo at home. Um, 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:29.159 with all. All of us around. Yeah. It was. That's unreal. 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.560 I remember, I remember when K Dik Diks made his 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:33.840 debut and I remember him walking to the, I think 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:36.000 it was the northern end of Shark Park and his 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.800 dad was there. His grandfather was there who also played 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:40.960 and his two brothers. And they were all just blubbering. 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:41.520 That's so good. 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:44.360 That's so beautiful. Yeah. And just like on the topic 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:46.160 of the debut, you know what I love about the 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:49.360 modern day, um, access we have to plays when they 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.640 film the coach telling them they're going to make their 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:54.240 debut and ringing the parents. That's so good to see. 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:54.880 I love it. 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:55.320 So good. 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:57.719 It's a great insight, isn't it? Yeah. So good to see. 0:06:57.760 --> 0:06:58.400 It's unreal. 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.080 All right Peg, your turn to shine. 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:02.340 Um, first grade debut. 0:07:02.420 --> 0:07:02.780 Mhm. 0:07:03.460 --> 0:07:06.900 I got 27 minutes off the bench playing at Shark 0:07:06.900 --> 0:07:10.980 Park again. I was playing for the Dragons. Um, there 0:07:10.980 --> 0:07:13.100 was none of the stuff that we've just spoken about. 0:07:13.140 --> 0:07:15.900 Like I literally my mum and dad got two tickets 0:07:15.900 --> 0:07:19.220 behind the goalpost because it was an away game and like, 0:07:19.220 --> 0:07:22.020 nothing was done. It wasn't. Yeah. No, I'm not trying 0:07:22.020 --> 0:07:24.860 to say like it wasn't special. Does that. Yeah. It 0:07:24.860 --> 0:07:28.060 was special for me, but it wasn't like the big extravaganza. 0:07:28.100 --> 0:07:30.660 There is these days when kids and obviously there's a 0:07:30.660 --> 0:07:32.740 lot more to do because of social media and all 0:07:32.740 --> 0:07:35.620 those sorts of things. But I just remember Andrew Farah 0:07:35.660 --> 0:07:37.780 because it was round one. Andrew Farah told me a 0:07:37.780 --> 0:07:40.900 week and a half before the game that I was 0:07:40.900 --> 0:07:42.340 going to play. He's like, mate, you're going to make 0:07:42.340 --> 0:07:44.540 your debut. I'm going to play off the bench. And 0:07:44.540 --> 0:07:48.180 I was nowhere near playing. It was Nathan Brown. I 0:07:48.180 --> 0:07:51.100 don't know if you remember the story. Nathan Brown hurt 0:07:51.100 --> 0:07:54.420 his neck and never played again after he was hurt. 0:07:54.460 --> 0:07:59.020 2001 in a trial against the Bulldogs at the Showground. And, um. 0:07:59.060 --> 0:08:01.540 And then Andrew Farah the next few days, once browny 0:08:01.580 --> 0:08:03.150 found out that out he'd never play again. Came and 0:08:03.150 --> 0:08:04.990 grabbed me and said, mate, you're going to be my 0:08:04.990 --> 0:08:07.510 next hooker. You're going to make your debut. So I 0:08:07.510 --> 0:08:11.870 ended up getting 27 minutes. Well against the Sharkies scored 0:08:11.870 --> 0:08:12.590 two tries. 0:08:12.910 --> 0:08:13.150 On. 0:08:13.150 --> 0:08:16.350 Debut. Yeah. Stop it. Yeah. Shit. I ran about a 0:08:16.350 --> 0:08:17.190 meter for both. 0:08:17.430 --> 0:08:20.390 Just like you were famous for the piggy bank. 0:08:20.430 --> 0:08:24.470 For the little barge over scoring your career. Uh, 30, 40, 0:08:24.510 --> 0:08:27.990 40 or 50? Yeah, 40. 50. Very hard to stop 0:08:27.990 --> 0:08:29.750 from a meter out. But but, you know, when you 0:08:29.750 --> 0:08:32.069 were just telling your story about your first week, it 0:08:32.070 --> 0:08:34.590 was so similar to what happened to me because as 0:08:34.590 --> 0:08:36.870 I just said, you came on 27 minutes. We beat 0:08:36.870 --> 0:08:40.870 the sharks pretty convincingly. So same thing. Go back in 0:08:40.910 --> 0:08:46.990 the Shark Park, reporters everywhere, two stories. You're thinking you're 0:08:47.150 --> 0:08:49.190 all that. And then I think it was a few 0:08:49.190 --> 0:08:53.190 weeks later we played the Broncos at the um. It 0:08:53.190 --> 0:08:56.589 was called ANZ Stadium. Remember the one with the athletics track? 0:08:56.630 --> 0:09:01.910 I hated that place. Yeah. And I'm like Lockyer sailor 0:09:02.010 --> 0:09:05.530 to Kiri on the wings like mate if you went 0:09:05.530 --> 0:09:10.770 through like talus. Tony Carroll, Web seven as ever. Like 0:09:11.170 --> 0:09:14.170 just star studded. Well, they won the comp in 2000 0:09:14.370 --> 0:09:17.689 and I was playing them in 2001. And I remember 0:09:18.010 --> 0:09:22.170 running the ball getting like the smashed out of me, 0:09:22.210 --> 0:09:25.209 playing it and just going, what the fuck am I 0:09:25.210 --> 0:09:27.930 doing here? I know, and I saw all those guys 0:09:27.970 --> 0:09:32.410 in the defensive line and I'm just like, no, no, no, 0:09:33.850 --> 0:09:38.209 I shouldn't be. Isn't it funny how when you were 0:09:38.210 --> 0:09:41.210 saying it, I was like reliving the exact same moments? 0:09:41.210 --> 0:09:43.850 It wasn't the second or third game. Forget when it was, 0:09:43.850 --> 0:09:45.650 but it was early in the year and I was like, 0:09:46.050 --> 0:09:48.089 I shouldn't be with these guys. Like, these are men. 0:09:48.130 --> 0:09:50.890 I'm just a boy. And, um, and that was it 0:09:50.890 --> 0:09:53.610 really that that was my welcome to first grade moment 0:09:53.610 --> 0:09:55.650 when I was like, Holy shit. 0:09:55.809 --> 0:09:58.490 It's funny you say that. Like I, we called the 0:09:58.610 --> 0:10:01.970 Souths game last Friday, the two Fridays ago because we're 0:10:01.970 --> 0:10:05.260 we're obviously this comes out on the Monday. Um, I 0:10:05.500 --> 0:10:09.420 remember Ashton Ward arrived for Souths and I remember looking 0:10:09.420 --> 0:10:12.260 through the binoculars going, this, that can't be a player like. 0:10:12.300 --> 0:10:14.900 But it had all the suit. Oh that's Ashton. Yeah mate. 0:10:14.940 --> 0:10:15.740 There's nothing of. 0:10:15.740 --> 0:10:16.699 Him of it. Yeah. 0:10:16.740 --> 0:10:20.020 Like these these little blokes that are nothing of them 0:10:20.220 --> 0:10:23.900 that go out there and play in the NRL these days. Unbelievable. 0:10:23.940 --> 0:10:24.140 Yeah. 0:10:24.140 --> 0:10:26.580 The game is the game has morphed. Um we used 0:10:26.580 --> 0:10:28.580 to be at school games you know we used to 0:10:28.580 --> 0:10:31.620 look forward to a game of footy after school and 0:10:31.620 --> 0:10:33.540 we'd all be in the in science lab doing our 0:10:33.540 --> 0:10:35.620 roll call. And the bus would turn up and they'd 0:10:35.620 --> 0:10:38.060 get off the bus, the opposing team, and you go, well, 0:10:38.059 --> 0:10:40.540 there's their front rowers. Oh yeah, there's their half. 0:10:40.580 --> 0:10:40.980 Yeah. 0:10:41.620 --> 0:10:44.500 He looks like a five eight or wing. But now 0:10:44.900 --> 0:10:46.940 that team gives off the bus. You go, who's the 0:10:46.980 --> 0:10:49.740 front row or second row or centre? They're like five 0:10:49.740 --> 0:10:51.059 eights these days. A six foot four. 0:10:51.100 --> 0:10:51.580 Yeah. 0:10:51.620 --> 0:10:54.720 Halfbacks are six foot three. Yeah. Wingers are either 7 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:58.100 foot or 5 foot one. Like it's just the game. 0:10:58.140 --> 0:10:59.220 They're all 100 kilos. 0:10:59.220 --> 0:11:01.380 And they're all winners. And the good thing about our 0:11:01.380 --> 0:11:03.790 game is that no matter how big you are or 0:11:03.790 --> 0:11:06.829 how small you are, there's a there's a spot for 0:11:06.830 --> 0:11:07.630 you somewhere. Yeah. 0:11:07.670 --> 0:11:11.790 Who's the who's the scariest bloke in the National Rugby 0:11:11.790 --> 0:11:13.470 League at the moment that you wouldn't want to tackle 0:11:13.470 --> 0:11:17.189 or come up against because I've got mine. Spencer Leniu. 0:11:18.350 --> 0:11:19.510 Fisher-harris for me. 0:11:20.270 --> 0:11:21.470 I'd say Payne Haas. 0:11:21.790 --> 0:11:22.150 Yeah. 0:11:22.309 --> 0:11:25.190 Payne Haas just the just the way he runs beast. 0:11:25.230 --> 0:11:27.350 Even all the way Stéfano played the other night. Stéfano 0:11:27.390 --> 0:11:31.350 you took him on. Yeah. Like but you know, there's 0:11:31.350 --> 0:11:32.189 not many you know. 0:11:32.230 --> 0:11:34.550 Yeah. You'd still take him on. I know that you're. 0:11:34.590 --> 0:11:36.910 I know what you're thinking. You're thinking I'd still take 0:11:36.910 --> 0:11:39.829 him on. Just won't go down swinging. One set. 0:11:41.790 --> 0:11:44.910 One set one more set of defence. One more of 0:11:44.910 --> 0:11:46.950 attack just to get out of my system. 0:11:46.950 --> 0:11:48.150 No d no d. 0:11:48.309 --> 0:11:49.270 Just that other. 0:11:49.309 --> 0:11:49.550 That. 0:11:50.030 --> 0:11:51.870 That other point that I raised. 0:11:51.910 --> 0:11:52.309 Yeah. 0:11:52.550 --> 0:11:54.510 Did you, did you play with or against any of 0:11:54.510 --> 0:11:57.189 the blokes who sort of didn't. Well I know. 0:11:57.470 --> 0:12:00.430 See we played in an era where we, our coaches 0:12:00.429 --> 0:12:02.929 would encourage us to go to the pub on a Thursday. Yeah. 0:12:02.970 --> 0:12:03.970 You know, um. 0:12:04.210 --> 0:12:06.490 But like bad, bad trainers, drinkers, smokers. 0:12:06.770 --> 0:12:10.770 But but everyone, everyone, I wasn't professional professional. So they 0:12:10.770 --> 0:12:13.250 all worked. So but I'll tell you a guy who 0:12:13.290 --> 0:12:16.170 you wouldn't expect in the off season when we used 0:12:16.170 --> 0:12:18.730 to go party, um, this guy could party with the 0:12:18.730 --> 0:12:22.730 best of them and then be the last one up 0:12:22.730 --> 0:12:24.690 drinking and, you know, back at his house usually, and 0:12:24.690 --> 0:12:27.010 he'd be sweeping the floors to keep us out. And 0:12:27.010 --> 0:12:28.370 then we'd go into a time trial the next day 0:12:28.370 --> 0:12:31.729 and he'd break club records. It was Brandy, really. Brandy 0:12:31.730 --> 0:12:34.770 was a freak of nature. Yeah, like just the way, 0:12:34.809 --> 0:12:38.690 like we do a 2.5 time trial, um, every, every 0:12:38.690 --> 0:12:40.450 off season. And sometimes we do it 4 or 5 0:12:40.450 --> 0:12:42.410 times just to make sure everyone's at the same. I 0:12:42.410 --> 0:12:44.570 think backs had to beat nine minutes, forwards had to 0:12:44.610 --> 0:12:48.650 beat ten. Um and Brandy would do he, we'd be 0:12:48.650 --> 0:12:50.930 out all night that you know, I think one one 0:12:50.929 --> 0:12:54.130 year we, we trained um was it New Year's Eve 0:12:54.170 --> 0:12:56.970 maybe we know we trained New Year's Day and he 0:12:56.970 --> 0:12:58.290 was out New Year's Eve. We were out together, New 0:12:58.290 --> 0:13:00.449 Year's Eve and we're all partying and I don't think 0:13:00.450 --> 0:13:02.650 we even slept. We just, you know, and we went 0:13:02.700 --> 0:13:06.500 and done a time trial at the Hale Oval Cricket Oval, 0:13:06.900 --> 0:13:10.980 2.56 laps of that. He done bare feet. He done 0:13:10.980 --> 0:13:15.060 in bare feet. No lap blokes. Look at this fucker. 0:13:15.100 --> 0:13:16.260 He's been out all night. 0:13:17.140 --> 0:13:19.300 The other guys were saying I'm going. Yeah, this fucking 0:13:20.620 --> 0:13:23.900 ten minutes behind him. Like just a freak of nature. 0:13:23.900 --> 0:13:26.860 Like he's just a. And like he. But like, through 0:13:26.860 --> 0:13:28.740 the season, you'd never see him. You know, he'd be 0:13:28.780 --> 0:13:32.380 he's one of the most dedicated players you would see. But, um, yeah, 0:13:32.420 --> 0:13:34.260 he was, he was a brand new breed. I was 0:13:34.300 --> 0:13:35.100 a freak man. 0:13:35.140 --> 0:13:37.300 You know, the, the, the best I've seen that loves 0:13:37.300 --> 0:13:39.300 a party and there's like more fat on a chip. 0:13:39.660 --> 0:13:41.020 Your mate Anthony Minichiello. 0:13:41.059 --> 0:13:44.060 Oh, yeah. But he's very selective. Like, wow. 0:13:44.100 --> 0:13:45.260 He is brand. 0:13:45.260 --> 0:13:47.300 New seven days a week. He's good, good, good. And 0:13:47.300 --> 0:13:48.380 then he might have one. 0:13:48.740 --> 0:13:50.140 Oh, when he lets his hair down. 0:13:50.700 --> 0:13:52.780 Don't worry. I've been with him on many occasions over 0:13:52.780 --> 0:13:53.100 the years. 0:13:53.140 --> 0:13:57.860 Gold coast, every, every every December. No. Every November least. Clubs. Australia. Conference. 0:13:57.900 --> 0:13:59.500 Levi we're going out tonight. I said, mate, I got 0:13:59.500 --> 0:14:02.220 MC the whole thing, mate. He'll end up, he'll come 0:14:02.220 --> 0:14:03.920 and sit with me at breakfast. I said, have you 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:05.040 been to bed? Nope. Nope. 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:07.320 Well, that's good, that's good. 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:10.800 Uh, I've got I've got a story for you. This is, uh. 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:15.640 When did this happen? 2002. 2003. I got stitched up 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:20.880 big time. Right. So, um, back then, in the early 2000, 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:22.960 they used to name Australian Train on squad and it'd 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:24.680 be about 40 or 50. 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:25.680 So at the end of the season, you. 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:27.640 Mean in the season. Yeah. And it'd be like, you know, 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.080 each week as you got knocked out. Yeah. I got, 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:34.040 I got named in one of those train on squads. Right. So, 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:38.239 you know, obviously the usual blokes were there. Barrett, Gasnier, 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:43.280 Riles Cooper yep. Cam Timmons, Brisbane boys. But but for 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:46.040 the Dragons. Oh, sorry. Sorry. That was when I was there. Yeah. 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:48.880 All those blokes all been in. I'd never been in 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:51.280 anything like that. Got named in the train on squad. 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.600 So I get told that we got a meet and greet. 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:57.080 I think it might have been on a Friday morning. Right. 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.440 For for training. But just a meet and greet won't 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:02.920 be out on the Thursday night news. Will remember this 0:15:03.370 --> 0:15:06.610 The Thursday night was the Footy Show reviews. Remember they 0:15:06.610 --> 0:15:08.650 used to do them. Where you going? I did some 0:15:08.650 --> 0:15:14.130 of the players perform. Yeah everything like that. So riles Gasnier, 0:15:14.170 --> 0:15:18.850 Riddell were in the Beatles. Pretty sure it's the Beatles, right? Um, 0:15:19.410 --> 0:15:21.890 and we've performed on the Saturday night and then there's 0:15:21.930 --> 0:15:23.170 obviously an after party. 0:15:23.210 --> 0:15:23.650 Yep. 0:15:23.890 --> 0:15:26.130 So everyone gets on, you know what they're like. Everyone 0:15:26.130 --> 0:15:29.010 has a drink before it, like there's a practice in 0:15:29.010 --> 0:15:30.930 the afternoon and then you do it on that night. 0:15:31.290 --> 0:15:34.290 Everyone's on the drink and I'm saying to the boys, boys, 0:15:34.650 --> 0:15:37.850 I can't, I can't have a drink like. And Gaz 0:15:37.850 --> 0:15:40.650 and Rosie like, nah, nah, you'll be sweet, mate. You'll 0:15:40.650 --> 0:15:44.170 be sweet. Like it'll be fine. So anyway, we go 0:15:44.170 --> 0:15:48.210 out all night like massive one. I turn up to 0:15:48.250 --> 0:15:53.330 Sydney football Stadium, hung like, hung like you wouldn't believe. 0:15:53.410 --> 0:15:57.010 With Gazz and Rosie in the car. We carpooled together 0:15:57.010 --> 0:16:00.010 from Saint George Leagues club. So I get there and 0:16:00.010 --> 0:16:03.710 find out we're training what. We're getting flogged And I'm 0:16:03.710 --> 0:16:07.710 just going, oh no. Chris Anderson. Oops. Chris Anderson was 0:16:07.710 --> 0:16:12.550 the coach, right? So I look around at old mate 0:16:12.550 --> 0:16:15.790 Rials and Ghazni and I'm going, you bastard, got me 0:16:15.790 --> 0:16:19.470 a beauty here. So, rials, he's got a part injury 0:16:19.470 --> 0:16:22.310 that I don't even know about. He goes into the gym, 0:16:22.310 --> 0:16:25.630 starts getting on the rower. Gas is one of those 0:16:25.630 --> 0:16:28.390 blokes that's an absolute freak like brandy that could go 0:16:28.390 --> 0:16:30.270 out on I and then just train the house down. 0:16:30.630 --> 0:16:37.750 Poor old pig. Right. Poor old. I was horrendous, right. 0:16:37.990 --> 0:16:42.270 It hasn't. It doesn't finish yet. I was horrendous like 0:16:42.470 --> 0:16:45.070 and we're doing these um we did a couple of 0:16:45.070 --> 0:16:47.990 laps around the footy stadium warm up, throw the footy around. 0:16:47.990 --> 0:16:49.430 I'm thinking fuck, I'm going to get through this. I'm 0:16:49.430 --> 0:16:51.070 gonna get through it. Then we went out the back. 0:16:51.070 --> 0:16:54.110 Do you remember where the indoor the outdoor cricket nets were? 0:16:54.150 --> 0:16:56.070 And I think they're still there. Yeah. Then we went 0:16:56.070 --> 0:16:56.750 out there for a bit. 0:16:57.270 --> 0:16:57.550 Near the. 0:16:58.110 --> 0:16:58.510 SCG. 0:16:58.550 --> 0:16:58.830 Yeah. 0:16:59.070 --> 0:17:02.390 We go out there and I go, oh shit. All 0:17:02.390 --> 0:17:02.790 the cones. 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:03.520 Which is that. 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.919 Kinds of set up tackle bags. So we had to 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.600 do these Malcolm's, which are like the get downs, get ups, 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:11.239 and they got to tackle a bag and you do 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:14.080 one for one, two for two. I'm going through doing 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:19.120 it anyway. Arses hanging out. I'm awful horrendous. Everything finishes 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:22.000 wraps up about an hour right all the boy. There's 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.280 a heap of boys there. I can't remember who exactly, 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:27.719 but Hopper was there and Hopper walks over to me 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:31.040 as we're walking off. He goes, hey, pig! Okay, yeah, Hopper. 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:34.480 He goes, you can train with me whenever you want. 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.640 And I go, why? He goes, you're the first person 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:48.840 I've ever fucking beaten. I was like, oh no! Eddie 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:53.160 Chundering oh no, no, I was horrendous. 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:56.440 Oh, that's a great story. Oh, that's a great story. 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:00.040 Let's get into the questions. Todd's first up. Is it 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.960 better to tie up $1.2 million in an elite game 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:06.490 managing halfback or spread that money evenly across a dominant 0:18:06.530 --> 0:18:08.129 top tier forward pack. Gentlemen. 0:18:08.570 --> 0:18:08.970 Um. 0:18:09.330 --> 0:18:10.369 You know more about this than me. 0:18:10.410 --> 0:18:13.889 I'd rather spend it on a $1.2 million elite game 0:18:13.890 --> 0:18:16.650 managing halfback one, because I don't think there's many around. 0:18:16.930 --> 0:18:19.090 And two, I don't think you're going to get a 0:18:19.770 --> 0:18:22.330 top tier dominant forward pack for 1.2 million. 0:18:22.369 --> 0:18:22.729 No. 0:18:22.850 --> 0:18:25.650 Um on. Yeah you're right. 0:18:26.090 --> 0:18:29.689 You're right. If there's a $1.2 million halfback on the market, 0:18:29.690 --> 0:18:30.890 you're getting you got to get him. Yeah. 0:18:30.930 --> 0:18:32.570 And you work something out after that. 0:18:33.130 --> 0:18:33.970 You build around him. 0:18:34.010 --> 0:18:35.690 Yeah. There's there's not many around. 0:18:35.690 --> 0:18:38.370 Thank you Todd. Phil, uh, asked the question how much 0:18:38.369 --> 0:18:41.250 value does a club legend veteran actually bring to a 0:18:41.250 --> 0:18:43.609 young squad if their physical prime is behind them? 0:18:44.050 --> 0:18:47.210 Oh, it's immense. Everything. I think if you if you 0:18:47.210 --> 0:18:51.810 respect the position you're in, that club legend will be 0:18:52.130 --> 0:18:56.010 paramount to your success because not only is he playing 0:18:56.010 --> 0:18:57.609 in the same team as you, he's been there and 0:18:57.609 --> 0:19:00.290 done it for a long time. And the reason he 0:19:00.290 --> 0:19:03.490 is a, um, a legend of the club is because he's, 0:19:03.830 --> 0:19:06.790 been the exact same position you've been in. So the 0:19:06.790 --> 0:19:10.150 respect that bloke to the fucking end of the world. 0:19:10.350 --> 0:19:12.869 Yeah. And they if they're setting the standards for the 0:19:12.869 --> 0:19:16.070 team and the club's going well and everything, they're so valuable. 0:19:16.109 --> 0:19:19.109 Sometimes they're more valuable for what they contribute off the. 0:19:19.270 --> 0:19:19.790 Off the field. 0:19:19.830 --> 0:19:23.270 In the club standards and expectations of the team than 0:19:23.270 --> 0:19:24.949 what you actually need them for on the field. 0:19:25.190 --> 0:19:28.750 Some good questions. Kate's next. Who is the most polarizing 0:19:28.750 --> 0:19:31.149 player in the game right now? And do they actually 0:19:31.150 --> 0:19:33.270 deserve the criticism they get from the media? 0:19:34.310 --> 0:19:37.070 Polarizing. Polarizing. Polarizing. 0:19:37.550 --> 0:19:39.310 What would you put Jerome in that class? 0:19:39.310 --> 0:19:40.230 Jerome would be in there. 0:19:40.230 --> 0:19:43.150 But I but I personally don't think he's polarizing. I love, 0:19:43.150 --> 0:19:43.670 I love. 0:19:43.710 --> 0:19:44.429 I love Jerome. 0:19:44.470 --> 0:19:46.629 I'm I love him, I always have, I think he's 0:19:46.670 --> 0:19:48.709 a lovely fella and I can't wait for him to. 0:19:48.750 --> 0:19:50.070 Bruce Walsh is polarizing. 0:19:50.670 --> 0:19:51.110 But again. 0:19:51.190 --> 0:19:51.510 I love. 0:19:51.510 --> 0:19:54.510 Him. I don't know Reece Walsh, but I've interviewed him 0:19:54.510 --> 0:19:57.109 over the years and I think he's a great fella. 0:19:57.109 --> 0:19:58.990 And then I see on social media him and his 0:19:58.990 --> 0:19:59.950 daughter and everything. 0:20:00.030 --> 0:20:00.830 Yeah, yeah. 0:20:00.990 --> 0:20:03.270 I think he must be a lovely fella, a great fella. 0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:05.920 It's hard, isn't it? I hate that polarizing. 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:09.440 Well it is. Well, like. And I think it's when, uh, 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:11.720 I remember it's the right for rugby league week. And 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:14.000 they used to do a, a poll each year about 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:15.480 who's the most overrated player. 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:16.440 Did you write it? 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:17.360 No, I didn't. 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:19.040 Write. 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:20.320 The poll. 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:22.880 No, I mean. Oh the articles. 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:24.320 No I didn't. I wrote a. 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:26.760 Few. The old ghost ones. Yeah. Ghost writers. 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:30.520 I, um. Yeah. The polarizing player. I was yeah. 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:33.040 I got a polarizing person. Who. Michael McGuire. 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:35.840 Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine you could put. 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:37.160 So I love him. 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:37.840 I love Madge. 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:40.359 All these all these guys were polarizing. I, I, I 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:41.000 love him. 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:43.040 It seems that all these guys are polarizing are all 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:44.120 very successful as well. 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:45.920 Yeah. And that's why they're polarizing, I suppose. 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:46.840 Don't be successful. 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:50.000 Like, I mean, um, uh, Zac Lomax is polarizing. 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:50.480 Yeah. 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:51.080 Mhm. 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:52.920 Yeah. 0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:54.520 He went quiet. 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:55.840 PNG. What? Uh. Anyway. 0:20:55.880 --> 0:21:01.360 Yeah. Get him up. I've nearly finished this baby. He's 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:03.600 just finished his 9 to 12. 0:21:03.700 --> 0:21:06.460 Yeah, it's a great show today too. James, when is 0:21:06.460 --> 0:21:09.139 it time for a club to admit a rebuild has failed? 0:21:09.140 --> 0:21:11.300 Exactly how many seasons do you give a coach before 0:21:11.300 --> 0:21:13.940 you pull the pin? Well, given the Dragons NRL w 0:21:13.980 --> 0:21:15.500 side is struggling. Piggy your thoughts? 0:21:15.700 --> 0:21:20.340 Yeah, we're in a five year plan at the moment. 677667. 0:21:20.460 --> 0:21:21.100 Make it ten. 0:21:21.220 --> 0:21:25.460 No we're we're in a five year plan. Uh, actually 0:21:25.500 --> 0:21:27.940 here we go. You're gonna like this one. We've identified 0:21:27.980 --> 0:21:29.660 key areas that we need to improve. 0:21:29.700 --> 0:21:31.619 But didn't you start the season by signing all these 0:21:31.619 --> 0:21:34.500 internationals and saying, oh, you've got a red hot team, blah, blah, blah. 0:21:35.020 --> 0:21:36.660 They're coming next year, next year, next year. 0:21:36.660 --> 0:21:36.820 Okay. 0:21:36.820 --> 0:21:41.740 Fair enough. Yeah. Just checking they were coming and there's 0:21:41.740 --> 0:21:42.379 more to come. 0:21:42.420 --> 0:21:46.459 Oh well, I'm imploring the NRL auditor to go and 0:21:46.460 --> 0:21:49.260 look at this man's books. Are you running two books? 0:21:49.300 --> 0:21:50.780 Sammy Bremner, where is Sammy? 0:21:50.820 --> 0:21:53.260 How many boats have you been giving out in cars. 0:21:53.300 --> 0:21:53.980 Girls don't like. 0:21:53.980 --> 0:21:58.060 Fishing. Um, Chris does the New South Wales Cup and 0:21:58.060 --> 0:22:00.940 Queensland Cup currently do enough to prepare halves for the 0:22:00.940 --> 0:22:04.149 speed of the NRL? Or are we throwing young playmakers 0:22:04.150 --> 0:22:05.430 to the wolves too early. 0:22:06.270 --> 0:22:09.790 Um, I suppose yes and no. It depends on the individual. Um, 0:22:09.990 --> 0:22:12.869 like I think the young guy who played for the 0:22:12.869 --> 0:22:15.830 Dragons at the start of the year, Rudy Craig, was 0:22:15.830 --> 0:22:18.310 maybe a little bit early for him, but some guys 0:22:18.310 --> 0:22:20.510 like duck to water. Um, you know, at the moment 0:22:20.510 --> 0:22:23.270 we've seen Joey Walsh who's the rigours of week to 0:22:23.310 --> 0:22:25.830 week are starting to catch up with him. And yeah. Um, 0:22:25.950 --> 0:22:29.149 where someone like the guy in Canberra, Sanders is starting 0:22:29.150 --> 0:22:32.790 to flourish somewhat later in the year. So it depends 0:22:32.790 --> 0:22:35.270 about the situation you're in. It depends on what kind 0:22:35.270 --> 0:22:37.030 of make up your team is in at the moment. 0:22:37.030 --> 0:22:40.750 But um, I think New South Wales Cup and Queensland 0:22:40.750 --> 0:22:43.670 Cup are there for what they're there for to get 0:22:43.670 --> 0:22:47.390 players and like players like Blaise Talagi this week he's 0:22:47.390 --> 0:22:49.909 going back to play in New South Wales Cup. There 0:22:49.910 --> 0:22:52.070 could be the best thing that happens to his confidence. 0:22:52.109 --> 0:22:54.390 You know my bugbear? What my bugbear is, I'd love 0:22:54.390 --> 0:22:55.989 to be able to weigh in on this, but we 0:22:55.990 --> 0:22:58.350 don't get to see them unless you're going to a 0:22:58.350 --> 0:23:00.910 park to go and watch them. I just, I just. 0:23:01.390 --> 0:23:02.590 That's another conversation. 0:23:02.630 --> 0:23:04.960 I just wish we had an opportunity to see the 0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:07.240 players rising through the ranks. I agree that we're going 0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:09.320 to one day be able to see in the NRL. 0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:11.400 I don't know what the answer is, but I'll just 0:23:11.400 --> 0:23:14.200 go back to growing up, I used to go watch 0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:17.000 the three games. I used to go watch the Toyota 0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:19.040 Cup or Holden Cup, whatever it was called. I used 0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:20.360 to say, mate, keep an eye on the blond kid. 0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:23.560 That's Tom Trebevic. You follow his career now? Like, when 0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:25.040 do we get to see New South Wales Cup? We're 0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:26.800 at the footy every weekend. We never get to watch it. 0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:29.280 Jersey Flegg like we had, I was lucky I grew up, 0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:34.320 I grew up with only 23 reserve grade and first grade, uh, midday, 130, 0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:37.679 then 3:00 was first grade. Yeah. Um, and yeah, like 0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:40.919 if you were at Penrith Park at 12:00 on a Saturday, 0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:42.719 you'd see all these young kids coming through. Then you'd 0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:45.720 watch reserve grade, then the crowd. And sometimes you just 0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:46.960 feel the crowd getting bigger. 0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:47.680 They do. Yeah. 0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:48.200 And it's just. 0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:49.320 Such a it's such a. 0:23:49.359 --> 0:23:50.120 Big thing. 0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:50.400 To. 0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:50.880 Be a young. 0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:51.480 Bloke. Yeah. 0:23:51.520 --> 0:23:53.320 But now these these New South Wales Cup players are 0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:54.720 playing in front of 20 people. 0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:58.359 Yeah. Like respect I agree I agree. Um can I 0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:01.160 answer this one as well. Um I think they do 0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:03.200 do enough as MG just said there, I think New 0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:05.460 South Wales Cup and Queensland Cup do enough. But I 0:24:05.460 --> 0:24:09.300 also think it's on the clubs to prepare the halves 0:24:09.300 --> 0:24:12.140 properly to get them ready for the NRL. And you know, 0:24:12.180 --> 0:24:14.659 you know the example. I always go back to Tom 0:24:14.660 --> 0:24:17.180 Dearden when he got thrown in at the Broncos when 0:24:17.180 --> 0:24:19.820 he was like 19 or 20 or whatever, and they 0:24:19.820 --> 0:24:21.900 were getting hammered from pillar to post. Like it was 0:24:21.940 --> 0:24:24.500 obviously way too early for him. But then when he 0:24:24.500 --> 0:24:27.180 got through his career and then went to the Cowboys, 0:24:27.340 --> 0:24:29.900 and then they trusted him there and backed him, then 0:24:29.900 --> 0:24:32.100 he turned into an origin player and it was almost like, 0:24:32.460 --> 0:24:35.900 it's almost like these halves, they need time. Like there's 0:24:35.900 --> 0:24:37.859 there's very rare that they can come in at 18 0:24:37.900 --> 0:24:40.190 like a Locky Galvin, and that might be a 1 0:24:40.190 --> 0:24:42.370 in 40 of the halves or 1 in 50 1 0:24:42.369 --> 0:24:44.580 in 100. I don't know what it is, but I 0:24:44.580 --> 0:24:46.740 think with the young ones they need to bide their 0:24:46.740 --> 0:24:49.219 time in New South Wales Cup. There's a good example 0:24:49.220 --> 0:24:52.660 at the moment of a kid called Toby Rodwell who. 0:24:52.780 --> 0:24:53.100 Roosters. 0:24:53.260 --> 0:24:55.659 The roosters. Yeah, halfback, they reckon he's played. I was 0:24:55.660 --> 0:24:57.060 talking about him the other day. They reckon he's played 0:24:57.060 --> 0:25:00.820 about 30 or 40 New South Wales Cup games already like. 0:25:00.859 --> 0:25:03.940 And I think that's the Roosters going okay at the moment. 0:25:03.940 --> 0:25:06.470 We've got Sam Walker, but we're getting this kid ready. 0:25:06.470 --> 0:25:09.350 So when DC and you know, they've also got Hugo 0:25:09.390 --> 0:25:12.820 Zavala who they've resigned but he's played 40. Yeah 40 0:25:12.820 --> 0:25:15.030 or 50 in New South Wales Cup games. That's that's 0:25:15.030 --> 0:25:17.149 what that's what the Dragons got to do with Kate Reid. 0:25:17.390 --> 0:25:19.669 And I know that's probably what Dean Young's talking to 0:25:19.710 --> 0:25:23.590 Kate about is that hey mate you're still 19. You're 20. Like, 0:25:23.590 --> 0:25:26.189 I know we've signed Metcalfe. I know we've signed Katie Nicholl. 0:25:26.470 --> 0:25:29.750 You're next. You're you're next. Yeah yeah yeah. 0:25:29.790 --> 0:25:30.550 Yeah. Do you understand. 0:25:30.869 --> 0:25:31.629 100%. 0:25:31.630 --> 0:25:32.710 Like you're going to be there. 0:25:32.750 --> 0:25:34.710 You probably play just because you haven't played just because 0:25:34.710 --> 0:25:36.790 you haven't played first grade. After ten New South Wales 0:25:36.790 --> 0:25:38.350 Cups game. That's not the end of your career. 0:25:38.350 --> 0:25:38.750 That's right. 0:25:38.750 --> 0:25:41.950 Yeah. No that is that's that um nurturing ground for 0:25:41.990 --> 0:25:43.070 for first grade footballers. 0:25:43.109 --> 0:25:45.710 I reckon if mate, if you said, look you're going 0:25:45.750 --> 0:25:49.550 to play 40 or 50 games of cup over the 0:25:49.550 --> 0:25:51.790 first three years, 20 to 23, but then you're going 0:25:51.790 --> 0:25:53.429 to play ten years in the NRL. What do you. 0:25:53.430 --> 0:25:53.989 Do. You take that. 0:25:54.030 --> 0:25:54.430 Take it every. 0:25:54.470 --> 0:25:54.869 Day. Every day. 0:25:55.310 --> 0:25:55.510 Yeah. 0:25:55.510 --> 0:25:56.510 So well said. 0:25:56.550 --> 0:25:59.710 Just before we wrap up I wasn't looking through you piggy. 0:25:59.710 --> 0:26:02.350 But what's been very off putting recording this podcast today 0:26:02.350 --> 0:26:04.530 is that alongside you there's a whole heap of books. 0:26:04.570 --> 0:26:07.850 Finding home. A User's guide to the mind. Average at best. 0:26:07.850 --> 0:26:13.210 White mountain tight lines. The shut ins and 138 dates which, 0:26:13.250 --> 0:26:15.050 out of interest. Which of those are you reading? 0:26:15.090 --> 0:26:17.170 They're all mine. I've just finished them. I just brought 0:26:17.170 --> 0:26:18.490 them in for everyone. 0:26:19.410 --> 0:26:22.850 I would say then once I'd go a user's guide 0:26:22.850 --> 0:26:23.570 to the mine. 0:26:23.690 --> 0:26:26.650 Well, I thought Tight Lines was a fishing book, is 0:26:26.650 --> 0:26:26.889 it not? 0:26:26.930 --> 0:26:28.530 Well, that could be, that could be, that could be 0:26:28.530 --> 0:26:31.250 a rugby league book. The shut ins. 0:26:31.369 --> 0:26:32.730 White Mountains, a drug book. 0:26:34.250 --> 0:26:34.970 It's a spin off from. 0:26:35.450 --> 0:26:36.610 That's the Blue Mountains cousin. 0:26:37.330 --> 0:26:40.330 When will it happen for me? That's Mark Levy's autobiography. 0:26:40.890 --> 0:26:42.570 No, I thought you were going to say no. 0:26:42.570 --> 0:26:43.929 What, 38 days is his? 0:26:44.330 --> 0:26:46.370 I think it's average at best. Like my career. 0:26:47.090 --> 0:26:52.090 Oh. Yeah. 0:26:52.130 --> 0:26:53.850 Right. You know what? On that note, we're out of here. 0:26:53.930 --> 0:26:55.050 Bye bye. Bye. 0:26:55.090 --> 0:26:57.530 Bye, piggy. There they are, the boys. Mark Wahlberg's podcast. 0:26:57.530 --> 0:27:00.050 Leave us some questions. Follow us. Spread the word. We'll 0:27:00.050 --> 0:27:02.610 catch you on Thursday for Mark my words.