1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,120 S1: Yesterday, we sort of hypothesized in the program about the 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,320 S1: potential for fuel rationing here in Australia today. I fear 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,680 S1: it's going to come true. Deputy Prime Minister Richard Marles, 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,600 S1: at a press conference, was asked specifically whether he would 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:18,280 S1: consider fuel rationing. He did not rule it out after 9:00. 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,040 S1: We're going to speak to the president of the Victorian 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,680 S1: Farmers Federation, Brett Hosking. We spoke with him just a 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,720 S1: couple of days ago. He's now saying we have a 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:30,160 S1: stark choice. Do we want fuel for our diesel utes 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,480 S1: and SUVs, or do we want food on our supermarket shelves? 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,520 S1: He says it's one or the other. And the problem 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,240 S1: is that farmers need huge amounts of diesel to run 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,720 S1: their tractors and various other forms of farm machinery in 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,479 S1: order to create the very food that we tend to 15 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,919 S1: take for granted. And we have a massive diesel shortage now. 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,280 S1: You know, if you drive a diesel ute or any 17 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,720 S1: type of SUV, which is diesel powered, it has a 18 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,080 S1: lot of them are. And let's just remember the four 19 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,000 S1: wheel drive diesel ute think Ford Ranger think you know 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,920 S1: Toyota Hilux. These are the most popular vehicles in Australia. 21 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,640 S1: They're not just used by tradies and farmers. They're used 22 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,160 S1: by well, suburban families these days as are do anything 23 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,810 S1: type of vehicle. We have a massive shortage of diesel 24 00:01:16,810 --> 00:01:20,170 S1: in this country. We are entirely reliant upon it to 25 00:01:20,209 --> 00:01:22,210 S1: move goods from A to B to get our food 26 00:01:22,209 --> 00:01:25,050 S1: out of the ground and into the supermarkets. And we 27 00:01:25,090 --> 00:01:29,170 S1: don't have enough. So which is it? Food or fuel? 28 00:01:29,170 --> 00:01:35,370 S1: 133693 mornings at 3OO. Now Brett Hosking again we'll speak 29 00:01:35,370 --> 00:01:38,210 S1: with him again after nine. But he's saying all sorts 30 00:01:38,209 --> 00:01:40,410 S1: of things that you know if you can take public 31 00:01:40,410 --> 00:01:43,530 S1: transport you should. There may be public transport should be 32 00:01:43,530 --> 00:01:46,530 S1: made completely free at the moment to get people out 33 00:01:46,569 --> 00:01:49,570 S1: of their cars and utes and onto the tram, the train, 34 00:01:49,570 --> 00:01:51,570 S1: and probably not the bus, because the bus tends to 35 00:01:51,570 --> 00:01:54,570 S1: also be powered by diesel. The problem also here is 36 00:01:54,570 --> 00:01:57,010 S1: if you have a petrol car and just so happens 37 00:01:57,010 --> 00:02:00,410 S1: I drive a petrol car. Even if we stop driving those, 38 00:02:00,410 --> 00:02:03,250 S1: it doesn't make much difference because you can't turn petrol 39 00:02:03,250 --> 00:02:07,330 S1: into diesel and very few farm machines run on petrol. 40 00:02:07,330 --> 00:02:10,770 S1: Some do, but not many. So the issue today is diesel. 41 00:02:11,290 --> 00:02:14,410 S1: We don't have enough. We can't create more of it 42 00:02:14,410 --> 00:02:16,770 S1: very easily. We got rid of our capacity to make 43 00:02:16,770 --> 00:02:19,209 S1: more diesel a long time ago by shutting down most 44 00:02:19,210 --> 00:02:22,810 S1: of our fuel refineries. We have very few domestic supplies 45 00:02:22,810 --> 00:02:25,770 S1: of oil, so we are reliant upon that oil that 46 00:02:25,770 --> 00:02:28,050 S1: isn't flowing out of the Middle East. We have a 47 00:02:28,050 --> 00:02:28,730 S1: big problem.