Speaker 1: Nine podcasts.
Speaker 2: Welcome to a special State of Origin preview of six
Speaker 2: Tackles with Gus, presented by tab We're live on the
Speaker 2: ground here in Perth, where it's very sunny and it's
Speaker 2: very warm, and it looms. Is one of the most
Speaker 2: important Origin games that has confronted Queensland for many, many years.
Speaker 2: The Blues have not won four straight State of Origin
Speaker 2: games since nineteen ninety six ninety seven. Do they seal
Speaker 2: the series here in Perth and look to sweep it
Speaker 2: in Sydney or can queens They make it a decide about.
Speaker 3: At a core.
Speaker 1: Welcome Phil Gold, Matthew Thompson. How are you doing.
Speaker 3: I'm good. It's nice to see some warmth and sunshine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit different the weather over here in
Speaker 1: Perth to what we left in Sydney, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: always like coming to Perth, been here a few times
Speaker 1: over the decades. Lovely clean city, very relaxing. It is
Speaker 1: big country town. I think they won't like that you're
Speaker 1: a city, it's a.
Speaker 2: Major city of Australia, but no, it is. It is
Speaker 2: lovely play to visit. It does take a long time
Speaker 2: to get here though, Yes.
Speaker 1: Well we've got a little taste of what the challenge
Speaker 1: might be for the Perth Bears in a couple of
Speaker 1: years time, when they're traveling every second week. I think
Speaker 1: they're going to have to adjust their draw They're going
Speaker 1: to have to work with the NRL pretty closely. I'd
Speaker 1: imagine it's best for them to probably play two or
Speaker 1: three in a row at home and then two or
Speaker 1: three in a row in Sydney and get a home
Speaker 1: base over there, rather than traveling across the country as
Speaker 1: often as they do.
Speaker 3: The Warriors don't get such favors there, No, they done.
Speaker 1: It's only two hours. I mean, towns will further than
Speaker 1: the New Zealand for a lot of the games that
Speaker 1: they play. Yeah, I guess travel is just part of
Speaker 1: it and you have to work it in. What about
Speaker 1: the ridiculous scheduling for the poor old Panthers this week?
Speaker 1: I just noticed that, Well it's not this week, is it?
Speaker 1: Or yeah, this week is it? The Warriors on the weekend?
Speaker 1: How ridiculous. They're playing Wednesday night in Perth, all these
Speaker 1: origin players and they've got them backing up Friday night
Speaker 1: in New Zealand. How would they ever expect those players
Speaker 1: to back up? Do that?
Speaker 3: That's a strange, bitter scheduling. That's really terrible.
Speaker 1: If I was the Panthers club, I've been blowing up.
Speaker 3: It makes it impossible for Penrith, doesn't it.
Speaker 1: Well, then they're not going to take their origin players
Speaker 1: across there. They're not going to take you know, someone
Speaker 1: at the NRL would have said, oh, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: They probably won't play anyway because they haven't played in
Speaker 1: previous years. Well, in previous years they are leading the
Speaker 1: camp that's short. Now they're in a battle for the
Speaker 1: top eight. I'm sure they would have loved to had
Speaker 1: those origin players available.
Speaker 3: How do we do that? I don't know.
Speaker 1: How do we do that to our game?
Speaker 3: That's shooting yourself in the foot.
Speaker 1: Well, shooting the product in the foot, that's what it's doing.
Speaker 3: Don't think they've be any lightning interruptions over here.
Speaker 1: No, that was bizarre yesterday, wasn't it.
Speaker 3: You don't plan for that stuff, do you?
Speaker 1: No, you don't know, you don't.
Speaker 3: Did you know what the protocol was?
Speaker 1: No? I knew that. I knew. I've got some recollections
Speaker 1: back in the past where games were delayed a little
Speaker 1: bit for lightning. In the old days, we didn't. We
Speaker 1: just kept playing. It could have been lightning everywhere. They
Speaker 1: wouldn't have cared that kept going. But yeah, it was
Speaker 1: a strange game because it was really we never got
Speaker 1: a second half. We had a long delay between the
Speaker 1: first half and the second, a couple of long breaks there,
Speaker 1: and so it was Yeah, it was difficult, but please
Speaker 1: the team got the win. It was an interesting round
Speaker 1: of rugby league, wasn't it. Only five games played on
Speaker 1: the weekend, but some great results. I mean, the Dragons
Speaker 1: looked as though they had the Sharks measure at halftime
Speaker 1: the other night and then capitulated. The Sharks went home
Speaker 1: to win. Never saw the Titans beating the Seagles, and
Speaker 1: particularly by that score. I mean, that was a bizarre performance.
Speaker 1: The other night, Gold Coast.
Speaker 3: Beating the Seagulls mainly got some issues.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Roosters had to work really hard to beat the Knights,
Speaker 1: and Nights led for most of that game, but the
Speaker 1: Roosters did well to get them in the end.
Speaker 3: And then they fled a sharp in that game either.
Speaker 1: And then a stunning performance by the Dolphins, absolutely stunning
Speaker 1: performance fifty eight to four against the Cowboys up in
Speaker 1: North Coinsland. Fifty eight to four. They're a good size.
Speaker 3: You've been on the Dolphins bandwagen for a couple of weeks, now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well that was stunning, absolutely stunning what they did
Speaker 1: to them, and they did it with ease. It could
Speaker 1: have been more. It really could have been more. The
Speaker 1: Dolphins are on the way, baby, They're going to be
Speaker 1: very hard to beat.
Speaker 2: So to the point of Origin, the Blues have been
Speaker 2: here twice before and won both games by thirty two points.
Speaker 2: Yet the scenario is very different because on both of
Speaker 2: those occasions they lost the series opening game. So it's
Speaker 2: now up to Coeensland to win here to keep it alive.
Speaker 2: A bit of extra pressure and one how that plays
Speaker 2: into the mentality of both states.
Speaker 1: Well, New South Wales are in the box seed, I
Speaker 1: mean winning a game in Brisbane, winning Origin one in Brisbane,
Speaker 1: it's a big bonus for them and they did it
Speaker 1: so convincingly too. They are in game three. Whatever happens
Speaker 1: here in Perth, New South Wales are in game three.
Speaker 1: Game three is going to mean something for them. It's
Speaker 1: either a decider or it's going to be for a whitewash,
Speaker 1: both of it which will be important for the Maroons.
Speaker 1: They're not in game three. Yet they've got to get there,
Speaker 1: and they've got to get there by winning this one.
Speaker 1: And they've made some changes to their lineup, they've taken
Speaker 1: some gambles. I'm not sure that they've addressed the problems
Speaker 1: that beset them in game one. And you know, right
Speaker 1: from the start, I think New South Wales will win handsomely.
Speaker 1: But Origins are funny beast. They can get out there
Speaker 1: and get on the wrong leg early Queensland can get
Speaker 1: on the right leg. And if New South Wales haven't
Speaker 1: done their homework, if New South Wales don't improve from
Speaker 1: game one to Game two, then they're just inviting disappointment
Speaker 1: into their life, because we know how Queensland will rally
Speaker 1: around this one. I wouldn't read too much into perth
Speaker 1: form in the past. As you say, Queensland were one
Speaker 1: up in the series when they came here the last
Speaker 1: couple of times, and they're renowned for kind of losing
Speaker 1: game two if they win game one. But yeah, to
Speaker 1: get this to a decided, they've got to improve them
Speaker 1: measurably out of what we saw in the first game.
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure they've addressed the problems that they've had,
Speaker 1: they're going to have to do it mentally rather than personnel.
Speaker 2: Was so, I think we've covered the Cherry Evans thing
Speaker 2: pretty well over the last little while, but I'm curious
Speaker 2: on your thoughts on the other changes Billy has made.
Speaker 2: Now you were talking about and I think anybody that
Speaker 2: watched that first game saw that news South was completely
Speaker 2: out muscled Queensland and the thinking was they'll go for
Speaker 2: a forward enforcer. Well, in fact, they've gone for Kurt Capele,
Speaker 2: the veteran back rower. They will start the arrow at
Speaker 2: Locke and they'll bring Carrigan and Nana, who is probably
Speaker 2: their best playering game went off the bench.
Speaker 3: What does that all say to you, Well.
Speaker 1: It says to me I highly doubt that's going to
Speaker 1: be their starting pack. I think they'll be changes before kickoff.
Speaker 1: They've probably named them that way, I don't know, just
Speaker 1: to have some thinking music in the background. They've got
Speaker 1: the personnel that they probably wanted. Kurt Capble is an
Speaker 1: experienced performer. He's played center, he's played back row, he's
Speaker 1: played in the middle. I guess they've brought his experience
Speaker 1: into the lineup and he's work ethic and I would
Speaker 1: imagine that he's going. Well, I don't know where he'll
Speaker 1: defend early because Nana I was sort of over on
Speaker 1: the right. But I guess he's going to contend with
Speaker 1: one of the harms in the opposition to him. But
Speaker 1: whether they thought it was going to be Moses or Cleary,
Speaker 1: now it's going to be Lewie. Of course that's a
Speaker 1: big change to the new South Wales side. But yeah,
Speaker 1: Caple coming back to be a starting back rower in
Speaker 1: such an important game. I have some question marks on
Speaker 1: that one. He's a good player, been a good player
Speaker 1: for a long time, but it.
Speaker 3: Probably wouldn't have questioned if he was there in game one, would.
Speaker 1: You, Well, it would have made more sense. It would
Speaker 1: have made more sense if he was replacing Ruben Cotter
Speaker 1: in the background. I don't know that playing Ruben Cotter
Speaker 1: in the background is is where he's best served these days.
Speaker 1: It just seems like a funny looking pack for me,
Speaker 1: given what they've got on the bench and what they've
Speaker 1: needed out of game one. If they were going to
Speaker 1: address it, I just I don't understand it at all.
Speaker 1: I can't understand the Patrick Carrigan coming off the bench.
Speaker 1: I can't stand cape Will starting in the second row.
Speaker 1: I can't understand Cotter starting in the second row, and
Speaker 1: I still say they won't start with Harry Grant. I
Speaker 1: still think Kurt Man will start the game with a hooker.
Speaker 1: They have to. I think they lose whatever chance they've
Speaker 1: got if Harry has to get out there early in
Speaker 1: the game. Reven Cotta might started hooker, could well do.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who it does, but I just don't
Speaker 1: think it should be Harry. If they want to use
Speaker 1: Harry as a weapon, if Harry's going to be a
Speaker 1: grain breaker for them and a winner for them, I
Speaker 1: think he's best coming off the bench. That doesn't mean
Speaker 1: I'm saying he's a bench player. That doesn't mean I'm
Speaker 1: saying he can't play eighty minutes. But at this level,
Speaker 1: they just pump so much defense, you work into him
Speaker 1: early that he just hasn't got the sprint in the
Speaker 1: legs when they need it most, when he normally comes
Speaker 1: off the bench and has a big impact. I think
Speaker 1: they're missing out on a great opportunity to turn him
Speaker 1: into a weapon. Now, maybe they're hoping to jump out
Speaker 1: of the blocks, get the jump on New South Wales,
Speaker 1: get to the front on the scoreboard and then play
Speaker 1: a spoiling game from there, which is Queensland's way. But
Speaker 1: I don't think they have addressed personnel wise. I don't
Speaker 1: think they've addressed the issues that beset them in game one.
Speaker 1: Now you can do a lot of that with attitude.
Speaker 1: You can do a lot of that around game planning
Speaker 1: and the strategy, etc. But to do that, that's why
Speaker 1: I thought they needed Cherry. Evans won't go back overall ground.
Speaker 1: It's Diden's job now, but it's a big ass from
Speaker 1: him as well. Making months to the captain is interesting
Speaker 1: because I think that'll give him even more responsibility about
Speaker 1: loading the team and taking ownership of their big moments
Speaker 1: and ownership maybe even to the kicking game. And so yeah, Queensland,
Speaker 1: they've got a lot of work to do in a
Speaker 1: short space of time to turn around that Game one,
Speaker 1: not just the result on the scoreboard, but the result
Speaker 1: of the flow of play of how dominant it looked
Speaker 1: in New South Wales. I think if New South Wales
Speaker 1: can just learn from game one, I think they can
Speaker 1: really put Queensland to the sword in game two.
Speaker 3: So you do think they'll be changes, I'll be.
Speaker 1: Surprised if there's not changes to the starting line up
Speaker 1: prior to kick, well, will I be surprised. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I can't think like a Queenslander. I gave trying to
Speaker 1: do that years and years ago. I don't know how
Speaker 1: Queenslanders think, but me I can't.
Speaker 3: It's an odd looking pack.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't make sense
Speaker 1: to me what they're doing there. There's other strategy available
Speaker 1: to them, just in that seventeen that were probably you know,
Speaker 1: but you know, we'll have to see what Billy does.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's obviously got a plan. He's the coach,
Speaker 1: he knows them better than anyone else. But from my perspective,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that they have addressed the issues from
Speaker 1: game one. Now a lot of this is going to
Speaker 1: come back on to Fadawaka and for Sulmula. Are we who?
Speaker 1: As I said prior to Game one, I'm playing with
Speaker 1: the goldcast Titans where defense has not been the priority
Speaker 1: there for a number of seasons. You know, it might
Speaker 1: be getting a little better, but you've got to take
Speaker 1: that club mentality, in that club form into origin and
Speaker 1: they just didn't do it game one. They weren't seen
Speaker 1: the pain Hearts and a sigh Yo and Barnett they
Speaker 1: were just running rough shot over them through the middle
Speaker 1: of the field. So they're going to need a lot
Speaker 1: of possession. They're going to need a lot of luck.
Speaker 1: Origin can do that. They can. They can get on
Speaker 1: the good food early and go from there. But right
Speaker 1: at the moment I'm not seeing it in the selections now.
Speaker 3: The one thing they've got in their favor, everyone's writing
Speaker 3: them off.
Speaker 1: Well, it's exactly where Queensland wants to be. This is
Speaker 1: where Queensland love it, and Queensland loved being the underdog.
Speaker 1: They love being written off, and every done commentator like
Speaker 1: you and I and everyone else around that keeps writing
Speaker 1: them off. They'll be replaying that and writing quotes up
Speaker 1: on walls and.
Speaker 3: Would be the first time you're better in a Queensland wall.
Speaker 1: Nah, that's right. I probably should invoice them from.
Speaker 2: Motivation services rendered. So the thunderbolt in New South Wales
Speaker 2: was the injury to Mitchell Moses, which is very untimely
Speaker 2: for both the Blues but also paramatter. But that New
Speaker 2: South I was doing the luxury of power shitting Jerome
Speaker 2: Lewie back in there. He was among New Southwell's best
Speaker 2: last series a lineball call. You were saying he thought
Speaker 2: he probably deserved to keep his spot when he gets
Speaker 2: his chance in game two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now, please take this the right way. I think
Speaker 1: it makes New South far stronger. But that's nothing against
Speaker 1: Mitchell Moses simply because of the long term combination between
Speaker 1: Cleary and Leui. This is the way I would have
Speaker 1: gone for game one. Moses did an outstanding job, outstanding
Speaker 1: job in last year series playing on the right, playing
Speaker 1: half back in place of Nathan Cleary, and he did
Speaker 1: a great job in Game two. And in fact, what
Speaker 1: I saw in Game one, I thought, well, game two,
Speaker 1: he'll demand the ball even more because there's some real
Speaker 1: opportunities on his own side of halfway to be releasing
Speaker 1: the outside backs there in latrel down that left hand side.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure that's not lost on Loui either. I'm
Speaker 1: sure he watched the game as closely as everyone else
Speaker 1: and he'll be seeing his opportunities as well. But on
Speaker 1: sheer combination under pressure, on sheer decision making under pressure,
Speaker 1: familiarity is important. Their relationship between the two Cleary and Leui,
Speaker 1: the relationship between them and the lock four, the relationship
Speaker 1: between those three fellas and the fallback Dylan Edwards. It's
Speaker 1: got to make them stronger, it's got to make them
Speaker 1: better under pressure. Not saying that Mitchell Moses couldn't have
Speaker 1: done it. He probably would have and it's not a
Speaker 1: slight on him that I say this, but technically, theoretically
Speaker 1: it actually makes them stronger to have that combination that
Speaker 1: the scrum base, the fullback of the lock on the
Speaker 1: two halves. So New Southwales certainly haven't gone backwards because
Speaker 1: of the injury.
Speaker 2: Max King gets a starting spot. It's a final one
Speaker 2: of the bench. I think they missed Mitch Barnet. He
Speaker 2: thought he was tremendous. In fact, he said two Origin
Speaker 2: games he's been outstanding in both of them. Now both
Speaker 2: of them the band's uncle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really strong, really strong constitution. You know he's one
Speaker 1: of them, bony, hard bodied, hard working forwards. And you
Speaker 1: know he played really well in Game one. He was
Speaker 1: a big part of that. I'm very happy for Max
Speaker 1: King to get a start. He won't let them down.
Speaker 1: His attention to details excellent, his leg speed's great, his
Speaker 1: defensive responsibility is really good. I thought he was really
Speaker 1: good in game one. Will be it coming off the
Speaker 1: bench in New South Wales had done a lot of
Speaker 1: good work early, but he will be on the back
Speaker 1: of paying hearts and he will be on the back
Speaker 1: of a CIA and you know, if he needs it,
Speaker 1: if he has to go first before they run, he'll
Speaker 1: do it. If he gets to come on the back
Speaker 1: of them, well he'll do that too, and he'll do
Speaker 1: it very effectively. So and they've also got some strength
Speaker 1: coming from the bench. So New South Wales steady as
Speaker 1: she goes, very little change from the Game one. They've
Speaker 1: actually brought in someone who's even more familiar and I
Speaker 1: think I thought Kalama tongue in key On Kalama tongue.
Speaker 1: He was very unlucky not to get that front rower
Speaker 1: spot off the bench. Stefano form has been all right
Speaker 1: for the Storm this year, and I guess the fact
Speaker 1: that he was in camp for Game one swayed the
Speaker 1: coach and the selectors that well, at least he'd been
Speaker 1: around the unit and that was a bit of familiarity
Speaker 1: as well. But you know he needs to rise to
Speaker 1: the occasion coming off the bench. There Hudson Young, Spencer
Speaker 1: Lanyu and Connor Watson it's a great bench. It's a
Speaker 1: real good bench. Can if they're in front, they can
Speaker 1: come home and ram home the advantage. If they're behind,
Speaker 1: they can actually come on and change the game, so
Speaker 1: they can do it both ways. I think the bench
Speaker 1: can be influential.
Speaker 2: Huts and Young actually look really dangerous in the middle
Speaker 2: when it came off the bench.
Speaker 1: It's a growing trend in the game for edge fords
Speaker 1: to be playing in and around the middle, particularly in
Speaker 1: the middle part of the game. Not so much at
Speaker 1: the start, but certainly for the rest of the game
Speaker 1: their first twenty minutes. You know, sometimes size and bulk
Speaker 1: matters and you need that Ronaldo strong middle forward running
Speaker 1: those you know, those tough runs. But as the game
Speaker 1: breaks up and evens up, size becomes less important. And
Speaker 1: that's where these fleet footed backgrowers and the ones that
Speaker 1: can dance around a little bit come into their own.
Speaker 1: And he was very effective, particularly when he came onto
Speaker 1: the field dancing around the middle of the field.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: He's got great leg speed, he runs hard, he bounces
Speaker 1: off people. You know, he can be a weapon if
Speaker 1: he used that way. But by the same taken he's
Speaker 1: you know, if New South Wales behind. If the game
Speaker 1: is not going well for them, Connor Watson can come
Speaker 1: on and Spencer len you can certainly come on and
Speaker 1: change the trend. Hudson Young, whether he plays on the
Speaker 1: edge in the middle, can do that. And Stefano is
Speaker 1: the one that's pretty much you see. What you see
Speaker 1: is what you get. He's just that big bulk front
Speaker 1: right in the middle of the fields. Size and hit
Speaker 1: ups and plenty of work rate and plenty of defense
Speaker 1: around the middle. So they've got a little covered from
Speaker 1: the bench. As I say, I can't work out the
Speaker 1: Queensland bench. I can't work out how they're going to
Speaker 1: use them for impact unless there are changes to the
Speaker 1: starting lineup going forward. I honestly think kurk Man will
Speaker 1: start at nine. That's my belief. If it doesn't happen, well,
Speaker 1: I can't explain that.
Speaker 2: But if it was intending on starting someone specifically at hooker,
Speaker 2: you think he'd pick a specialist hooker, ain't you.
Speaker 1: No, Not necessarily, Well, Ben Hunt wasn't a specialist hooker.
Speaker 2: Well, no, but someone kirk Man's highly versatile. Don't get
Speaker 2: me wrong. I'm sure he can do the job, but
Speaker 2: he's not known as a nine.
Speaker 1: Well, they made plenty of substitute nine at Newcastle doing
Speaker 1: the same thing playing lock and nine. I think when
Speaker 1: Phoenix Crossland was finding his feet and it was one
Speaker 1: of the reasons we bought him at the Bulldogs was
Speaker 1: because he had that versatility. But he's ended up. He's
Speaker 1: morphed into our probably major player playing lock forward at
Speaker 1: the moment, so he can certainly do that role. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if Queensland need a ball playing lock Ford.
Speaker 1: I guess he's there covering a few positions, but primarily
Speaker 1: I'd be using him in the hooking role to start
Speaker 1: the game, if only for fifteen or twenty minutes, just
Speaker 1: to save Harry Grant from a lot of grunt work early,
Speaker 1: which no doubt New south Wales will do. You know,
Speaker 1: New south Wales will get the ball and every time
Speaker 1: they get the ball, they'll run a play at their hooker,
Speaker 1: they run a play at their half back, they'll run
Speaker 1: a play at the hooker, they run a play at
Speaker 1: the five eight. They'll just keep running their big men
Speaker 1: at their little men. They'll keep moving their mobile they're
Speaker 1: bigger forwards around if their bigger forwards have got to
Speaker 1: chase to make tackles. It's only going to wear they're
Speaker 1: mout and that's the strategy, you know. And if it's
Speaker 1: every second tackles Harry Grant, well he can't be a
Speaker 1: weapon of attack. He just can't be. We did and
Speaker 1: is going to get them under pressure.
Speaker 3: A strangers the.
Speaker 2: Pack as it looks, and I agree when it was announced,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking this is odd.
Speaker 3: But the more I look at it, it's a work
Speaker 3: rate pack. Yeah, they're workers.
Speaker 1: His mentality might be just to try and hold the
Speaker 1: scoreline close and then trust Munster and Ponger and these
Speaker 1: fellows to get the wind at the back end, which
Speaker 1: is pretty much a Queensland mindset. But and Queensland forward
Speaker 1: packs have always been picked on work ethic, absolute work ethic.
Speaker 1: They want people to pressure kickers, they want people to
Speaker 1: chase kicks, they want people to you know, work hard
Speaker 1: around the middle to get back and hit the ball
Speaker 1: up like they're this work great players. They're not part
Speaker 1: of the strategy of the team at all. Where I
Speaker 1: think in Origin you probably need a little bit more
Speaker 1: than that. I think the new South Wales pack's far
Speaker 1: more dangerous, far more balanced, and has more strike to
Speaker 1: it and more versatility to it, and I think there's
Speaker 1: more impact from the bench as well. I think there
Speaker 1: are more options off the bench to change the momentum
Speaker 1: of the game or reinforce the momentum of the game
Speaker 1: that exists from the fellows on the bank. I can't
Speaker 1: see New South Wales losing. I just can't. And as
Speaker 1: much as I respect Queensland and what origin is and
Speaker 1: how these games can change, on the surface of it,
Speaker 1: I can't see a Queensland win.
Speaker 3: There's another headline for the dressing room all well, yeah, but.
Speaker 1: We're sitting in We're sitting in the soundproof birth. No
Speaker 1: one cares what we say. But I'm just saying I
Speaker 1: can't see it. I can't see Queensland getting out of
Speaker 1: that game one. What happened up there, If New South
Speaker 1: Wales do their homework and if they can improve again
Speaker 1: on what happened in game two, and I think with
Speaker 1: that in mind, Luai is the perfect one to come
Speaker 1: in and do that as well. I think he can
Speaker 1: be a real expect.
Speaker 3: Energy, energy and enthusiasm.
Speaker 1: Energy and no fear, no fear. He's got that, He's
Speaker 1: got this instinct that he wants to attack it all
Speaker 1: at all costs. He's also got the left footed kicking game.
Speaker 1: So if they're going to pressure, if they think pressure
Speaker 1: and kickers is a thing, you know, Mitchell Mays's right
Speaker 1: foot kicker on the left hand side of the field
Speaker 1: sometimes doesn't work so well. Clearing doing the bulk of
Speaker 1: the kicking makes him vulnerable. And Cleary didn't really kick
Speaker 1: that well in game one. They're sort of blaming the
Speaker 1: football a little bit, but he wasn't hitting the ball
Speaker 1: at all well, either goal kicking or even with his
Speaker 1: general play kicking. You know, we'll see how that goes
Speaker 1: in game two as well. But he and Leui I
Speaker 1: know when to mix it up. They know when to
Speaker 1: kick left and right. They know when one's going to
Speaker 1: be under pressure for the other. They've got each other's back,
Speaker 1: they've done it so often together. I just think it's
Speaker 1: going to help because that's one of the things Queensland'll
Speaker 1: be looking to do. Queens And will be looking to
Speaker 1: put pressure on opposition kickers, not that the rules allow
Speaker 1: it too much these days. Give him a bump and
Speaker 1: they give a penalty.
Speaker 3: Their best kickchaser in game one was Nana. He chased everything.
Speaker 1: He's on the bench well he chases the ones he
Speaker 1: can score off. They're the ones he chases. The short
Speaker 1: kicking game, they all chase if they think they're a
Speaker 1: chance of scoring a try.
Speaker 3: Good point. It's a longer dropping five bucks on the road.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's the kick chases I'm talking about. Are
Speaker 1: the ones where you've had your backs to the wall
Speaker 1: and defense and you get out there and you're only
Speaker 1: on about the thirty or the forty on tackle five
Speaker 1: and your half it happens on tackle two and your
Speaker 1: half back six now is a good time to kick
Speaker 1: and doesn't find tuts. Well, then you've got to find
Speaker 1: your kick chase, and not on your own. You've all
Speaker 1: got to go down together. That's kick chase is so important.
Speaker 1: Meters made from kicks downfield. It's such an in crucial
Speaker 1: part of the modern day rugby league game, and particularly
Speaker 1: in origin as well. So got plenty of blakes. You
Speaker 1: chase it when they are a chance is scoring a try.
Speaker 1: But when they chase it, will they chase it? When
Speaker 1: you know the pulse is under and eighty and there's
Speaker 1: no air in the lungs and the legs are burning,
Speaker 1: and they've been defending a few sets of six on
Speaker 1: their line and suddenly the half access chase this. You know,
Speaker 1: we're going to get down there and chase it, and
Speaker 1: if they don't, we'll deal on. Edwards runs it back
Speaker 1: as far as you can kick it. So, yeah, he
Speaker 1: chases the good kicks. All got to chase the other kicks.
Speaker 2: He was remissing me not to mention that kurk Man's
Speaker 2: about to become the oldest Queensland debutntent Arthur beats and
Speaker 2: in the first Origin, what.
Speaker 1: A story, what an absolutely got a great story. And
Speaker 1: I've told you so. I tried to sign him twelve
Speaker 1: thirteen years ago. It's a young five eight at Panthers
Speaker 1: at the time. He had the choice, I saw the
Speaker 1: Melbourne Storm. He chose the Melbourne Storm, which was a
Speaker 1: good pick at the time. We weren't going that well
Speaker 1: Melbourne were Melbourne's always going well.
Speaker 3: But it was a bit of a whiz kid back then,
Speaker 3: wasn't he He was?
Speaker 1: He was young five eight from Queensland and I think
Speaker 1: he's from country Queensland, way out the back somewhere, but
Speaker 1: he Yeah, he's You've got a good old fashioned attitude.
Speaker 1: He's got a hard edge to him. He's been great
Speaker 1: for the Bulldogs. But we're not talking about the Bulldogs
Speaker 1: the other day. But he's he's been wonderful for our club.
Speaker 1: And he's got leadership and he's just raw bone, old tough,
Speaker 1: you know, old old set of values.
Speaker 3: And he's had a wretcheder injury.
Speaker 1: He won't let anyone down, no, he has. And he's
Speaker 1: played every position on the field, very versatile.
Speaker 3: He's from Winton.
Speaker 1: Winton. Yeah, Winton's a long way out in Queensland. Somewhere
Speaker 1: where's Winton?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: The other Queenslander me from Penrith. Yeah, but you called
Speaker 1: a lot of foods I did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at Central West coins that one hundred and seventy
Speaker 2: seven kilometers northwest of Longreach. That's right, that's out there,
Speaker 2: that's out there. That'd all be tough from Winton, wouldn't they.
Speaker 1: Well, they have enough for a football team in Winton.
Speaker 1: He probably had to do it all himself. That's where
Speaker 1: he learned all the positions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember, right in the middle of right in
Speaker 3: the middle of Coinslands.
Speaker 1: And he was very young when I first spoke to him,
Speaker 1: very young, but you could see there was a man there,
Speaker 1: you know, he was he wasn't a boy, he was
Speaker 1: already a man. You could just tell the country kids
Speaker 1: are good stock mate.
Speaker 3: So Winton's as close to Alice Springs as it is
Speaker 3: to Brisbane.
Speaker 1: Well there, they're going to be tough out there.
Speaker 2: I'm conscious that the Queensland forwards were sitting Game one,
Speaker 2: but I can't help but think it's a big night
Speaker 2: for Carl and Ponger. He hasn't he really hasn't had
Speaker 2: a great year and it's been a while since his influenced.
Speaker 3: In Origin game.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I know he's played a lot, a lot consistently
Speaker 2: because of injury, but I feel like it's a big
Speaker 2: night for him, particularly with Walsh Pack.
Speaker 1: Well, it's a big night for all of them. It's
Speaker 1: a big night for Tom did and it's a big
Speaker 1: night for Camera Munster. I mean, they've got to get
Speaker 1: things happen. It's a big night for the forwards Pack,
Speaker 1: I mean Tino and mat To they've got to show
Speaker 1: show their class in this game. They've got to get
Speaker 1: coins and on the front foot. And I think if
Speaker 1: they do, Like how much of Ponger is his own
Speaker 1: personal form? How much is he a victim of what's
Speaker 1: happened at Newcastle over the last twelve months and how
Speaker 1: they've been fairing and you know, and you don't like
Speaker 1: to you don't like to be a victim, but sure
Speaker 1: Klin's got the ability. You don't lose your ability. It's
Speaker 1: just that New South Wales was so great on controlling
Speaker 1: the ball, so great on kick chase. There was really
Speaker 1: nothing on offer for him on kick reception. He didn't
Speaker 1: have time to wind up or position other players. They
Speaker 1: weren't getting a lot of ball at the New South
Speaker 1: Wales end of the field, so we never really came
Speaker 1: into the action. He's now got a new halfback to
Speaker 1: combine with nothing in the way really until kirk Men
Speaker 1: gets on the field of a ball playing type lock
Speaker 1: to tap into. It's probably him and Harry Grant and
Speaker 1: him and Munster. I guess you know which news our
Speaker 1: worlds will be aware of that, and I think that's
Speaker 1: where they'll concentrate there, or at least where Dylan Edwards
Speaker 1: will be marshaling the troops. He'll be very wary of
Speaker 1: where they're bobbing up on the field. And Calen Ponger
Speaker 1: in that head gear is not hard to spot. He
Speaker 1: was out the back waiting for the ball, but a
Speaker 1: big game for him. It's a big game for all
Speaker 1: the Queenslanders. But that again, that's where Queensland liked to be.
Speaker 1: This is by the time they've sat in their circle
Speaker 1: and hold hands and sat around the campfire and sunned
Speaker 1: their songs and you know, pat of each other on
Speaker 1: the head and forget game one. Now we've got them, now,
Speaker 1: we've sucked them in. Everyone's tip. We just where we want,
Speaker 1: the boys them just where we want, just where we want.
Speaker 1: We've seen this movie before, trust me, we've seen this
Speaker 1: movie before. And if the scores are close, if the
Speaker 1: scores are close, when we get down to the back
Speaker 1: end of the game, who's going to prepare for that
Speaker 1: the best? I mean, if the scores are locked with
Speaker 1: ten minutes to go, just put yourself in that scenario
Speaker 1: for a moment. Who do you think is prepared for that?
Speaker 1: Who do you think is expected that New South Wales
Speaker 1: or Queensland. I mean, if Queensland are going to win this,
Speaker 1: I think that's probably where the game is going to be.
Speaker 1: It's going to be close with ten minutes to go,
Speaker 1: and then they come up with the big play or
Speaker 1: they're able to defend a two point lead or something.
Speaker 1: A New south Wales preparing for that, a new South
Speaker 1: Wales ready to go down to golden point or go
Speaker 1: down to field goal territory, or you know, be just
Speaker 1: behind or just be in front when with ten minutes
Speaker 1: to go. Mentally, there's a rehearsal there as well. I
Speaker 1: guess Queensland know that they're probably not going to blow
Speaker 1: New south Wales away. It's going to have to be
Speaker 1: close if they win, so they're thinking about the eighty
Speaker 1: minute effort. I used to say to origin players, you know,
Speaker 1: like particularly young fellas coming in or you know, important games.
Speaker 1: One of the messages I gave was that it's really
Speaker 1: easy to get excited and get nervous. And everyone's excited
Speaker 1: and nervous for the start of the game, and you
Speaker 1: want that first touch and you want that first touch
Speaker 1: to be good, and you kind of lie away thinking
Speaker 1: about that first hit up or that first tackle, or
Speaker 1: that first catch of the bomb and all the things
Speaker 1: you're talking. You're thinking about. It's a bit like going
Speaker 1: to golf. What do you think about on the way
Speaker 1: to golf? You think about that first hit off the
Speaker 1: first te don't you. But it comes and goes so quickly,
Speaker 1: your first hit up, your first tackle, your first touch,
Speaker 1: or your first involvement in the game. It comes and
Speaker 1: goes so quickly. Where most of these are decided by
Speaker 1: the last thing that you do. A lot of games,
Speaker 1: the big games, are decided at the back end, in
Speaker 1: the final moments, And so I used to ask them
Speaker 1: to put themselves in that position when you're gassed, when
Speaker 1: you're injured, when the game's on the line, when we're
Speaker 1: two points in front, were we're two points behind, think
Speaker 1: about the last thing you do, your last kick chase,
Speaker 1: your last tackle, your last support play, your last run,
Speaker 1: your last fall on a loose ball, your last cover defense.
Speaker 1: You know, think about that last play, because that could
Speaker 1: be the one that actually decides it. You know, not
Speaker 1: when you're fresh and ready and nervous and excited and
Speaker 1: feeling good, but at the back end where you feel terrible,
Speaker 1: where your lungs are burning and your legs are aching,
Speaker 1: and you're probably injured, and you know you've been out
Speaker 1: there for a long time, and you know the game's
Speaker 1: in the balance, the results in the balance. There's not
Speaker 1: long to go your two points in front of your
Speaker 1: two points behind, and put yourself in that scenario with
Speaker 1: your visualization. Interesting watching. Danny Widler interviewed New South Wales
Speaker 1: fullback the other night, Dylan Edwards, and he said, you
Speaker 1: know what's been the development of our game over the years,
Speaker 1: He said, the visualization, the mental part of the game.
Speaker 1: They're sitting down and rehearsal, the mental rehearsal of the game.
Speaker 1: Putting yourself in those types of scenarios the whole time.
Speaker 1: And I think all professional sportsmen need to do that.
Speaker 1: They pretty much all do sort of yoga and breathing
Speaker 1: and meditation and all those sorts of things, and it's
Speaker 1: about putting yourself in those positions, putting yourself in those
Speaker 1: moments visually before the game, you know, and saying all right,
Speaker 1: well I'm there, I'm tired, I'm buggered. You know the
Speaker 1: scores in the balanced referees, you know, giving them a
Speaker 1: penalty they shouldn't have got, or got a flaer in
Speaker 1: the sin bin, or it's teaming rain and or two points,
Speaker 1: all the scenarios that can be really difficult to handle.
Speaker 1: Put yourself there mentally before the game because then when
Speaker 1: you get in that moment, you actually rehearsed your thoughts
Speaker 1: you rehearsed how you're going to feel, and you rehearsed
Speaker 1: what you're going to be telling yourself. If you don't,
Speaker 1: then it can get the better of you. And we've
Speaker 1: seen that happen so often, and it usually happens a
Speaker 1: few times before you realize I need to I need
Speaker 1: to rehearse this before I go out and do it.
Speaker 1: It's like doing goalkicking practice, putting yourself under game pressure.
Speaker 1: Put yourself under game pressure and your rehearsal and your goalkicking.
Speaker 1: You know, I used to do a drill with Iven
Speaker 1: clear you when he was at the rooster. I say,
Speaker 1: you had to kick twenty out of twenty before he
Speaker 1: could go home. And he said, when you got down
Speaker 1: to seventeen, eighteen and nineteen, if you get if you missed,
Speaker 1: you had to go back to one.
Speaker 3: Where was it kicking from?
Speaker 1: No, just conversions just around the post. You know, it's
Speaker 1: just titting around the post. But you know it was
Speaker 1: just a it was more a mental thing, you know,
Speaker 1: like he said when he got down to seventeen, eighteen
Speaker 1: and nineteen, knowing that if he missed one, he had
Speaker 1: to start back at zero. And he's dying to get
Speaker 1: armed towards the sale of the century or what if
Speaker 1: you want to watch on TV? You know, he said,
Speaker 1: that's that that was the pressure. You know, that's game pressure.
Speaker 1: You could feel it, you know, And I think you've
Speaker 1: got to do that same you know they do putting
Speaker 1: drills in golf. I got all this from golf analysis
Speaker 1: and the golf books that I used to read in
Speaker 1: the mental game on golf and try to put footballers
Speaker 1: in the same scenario. And but Origin, it's just heightened,
Speaker 1: that's all. It's just a heightened state of awareness and
Speaker 1: a heightened state of rehearsal and visualization.
Speaker 3: And it works.
Speaker 1: It works.
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Speaker 2: Archie binks what's around? Carrigan says, it's a big core
Speaker 2: medium to the bench.
Speaker 3: What does it say?
Speaker 1: Still don't think you'll start there. You could well start
Speaker 1: the game anyway. I just don't know what what the
Speaker 1: thought process is whether or not they're just hoping. You know,
Speaker 1: if if Queensland start with the pact that they've got
Speaker 1: fad Awake at Grant and Tina up front and trently
Speaker 1: Eero trently Aero at Locke, they're just hoping that they
Speaker 1: get some ball early, get on the front foot, Harry
Speaker 1: can do something with him with Ponger and Munster and
Speaker 1: then they can sneak a couple of quick tries or
Speaker 1: get to the front and the scoreboard, you know, dominate
Speaker 1: a little bit of field position, dominate a little bit
Speaker 1: of possession, get New South Wales a little bit nervous
Speaker 1: and then bring on their tacklers, then bring on their
Speaker 1: high work rate players to come out and you know,
Speaker 1: go from there. You know, I don't know, Maybe I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know. I just don't know why Paddy
Speaker 1: Carrigan's not starting the game, to be honest, other than
Speaker 1: the fact that they've probably picked something they think can
Speaker 1: get to the front. Now, if you're going to do that,
Speaker 1: we'd have Nanai starting because he can get you a
Speaker 1: try out of a kickchase or a line break or
Speaker 1: what have you.
Speaker 3: So or they might have picked Corey Hawsbro.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah he was. He was one that I really
Speaker 1: would have considered. Yeah, I don't know, as I say,
Speaker 1: I can't see the strategy there in Yeah, in the
Speaker 1: way the team has been picked.
Speaker 3: Oh, this is a tough one from Michael Edwarods.
Speaker 2: He's asking the hard question if Queensland loses game too,
Speaker 2: what does the future hold for Billy Slater as coach
Speaker 2: and what kind of rebuild would the Marines need to
Speaker 2: undertake for twenty twenty six. We haven't him lost yet,
Speaker 2: but he's asking what might happen if they do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think Billy's in any danger of losing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that hasn't happened yet. We'll worry about that when
Speaker 1: we get the result.
Speaker 2: It's a hard one to answer it out, Dan Finnigan.
Speaker 2: After their dominant performance in Game one, what's the biggest
Speaker 2: danger for the Blues?
Speaker 1: The biggest danger from my perspective, is in your mental
Speaker 1: preparation for the game or in getting ready for game two.
Speaker 1: You think it's going to be exactly like Game one.
Speaker 1: But if you go out and do exactly what you
Speaker 1: did in Game one, things will go exactly the way
Speaker 1: they did, and that's not going to happen. It very
Speaker 1: rarely happens that way. That whatever you did in game one,
Speaker 1: you've got to understand there's going to be a reaction
Speaker 1: from the opposition, and they've already reacted both in in
Speaker 1: the naming of their team and the dropping of their
Speaker 1: captain and sparking a results. So if we go out
Speaker 1: with exactly the same game plan we had for game one,
Speaker 1: it won't be good enough because queens and will be
Speaker 1: ready for it. These are the best of the best.
Speaker 1: This is not a club game and we go out
Speaker 1: and play the same way every week. You know you
Speaker 1: get the same results, but you know origin there will
Speaker 1: be a bounce back from Queensland. What New South Wales
Speaker 1: needs to learn there's not so much what happened in
Speaker 1: game one, but what could have happened, what what other
Speaker 1: things were there that they didn't explore. And I saw
Speaker 1: some real opportunities for New South Wales that if they
Speaker 1: choose to go that way, I think can really pull
Speaker 1: Queensland's pants down. And I'm not sure that Queensland will
Speaker 1: be ready for it, certainly not ready for it for
Speaker 1: the way they've picked their team. So I just think
Speaker 1: that you know, if New South Wales can advance, they'll
Speaker 1: be they'll be too strong. But if they don't, my
Speaker 1: greatest fear for New South Wales is it's not complacency,
Speaker 1: but it's to think that this will just be a
Speaker 1: continuation of what happened in game one. The game one,
Speaker 1: Game two will start exactly the same way. Remembering they've
Speaker 1: got a few six agains, they've got a couple of penalties,
Speaker 1: and they've got a couple of turnovers. All right, cut
Speaker 1: the turnovers out. Queensland's not going to drop the ball
Speaker 1: this time. Cut the penalties out because that's not going
Speaker 1: to happen. All right, Now, can we set for set grind,
Speaker 1: set for set grind, set for set grind, and still
Speaker 1: be nil all after twenty minutes? Who's winning? At nil all?
Speaker 1: It's nil all after twenty minutes? Who's winning? Who's ready
Speaker 1: for that part of the game? And as I said
Speaker 1: to you, who's ready for the part of the game
Speaker 1: at the last ten minutes when the score is a level, Well,
Speaker 1: Queensland's got their nose in front, or you've only got
Speaker 1: your nose in front there, or we get down the
Speaker 1: field goal territory, because that might be a part of
Speaker 1: the game that New South Wales haven't mentally prepared for.
Speaker 1: I'm sure as professionals they will have. But that's always
Speaker 1: the danger that you just expect. It's a continuation of
Speaker 1: the previous game and it never is.
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Speaker 1: The top three players to have a game changing moment.
Speaker 3: If you're going to throw three in there that could
Speaker 3: have a game changing moment, who would you choose?
Speaker 1: Well, the other night someone asked me about the top
Speaker 1: three who I think the top three players will be?
Speaker 3: And I think that was me.
Speaker 1: Last week?
Speaker 3: Was it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I went paying half Asi and Nathan Cleary.
Speaker 1: But if you're looking for game changing moments, game changing moments,
Speaker 1: a game changing moments could be a Xavier coach, a
Speaker 1: leap and catch, which I think is one of the
Speaker 1: ways that they can score. A hammer tack will break
Speaker 1: in a sprint. Yeah, well that's going to have to
Speaker 1: come from an offload somewhere. You know someone's going to
Speaker 1: have to put him away. You know, a monster can
Speaker 1: come up with a game changing moment. Harry Grant can
Speaker 1: come up with a came changing moment. Buttrell Mitchell, No, No,
Speaker 1: off the bench, Latrell Mitchell. There's plenty of you know,
Speaker 1: that's the beauty of Origin. You've got plenty of players
Speaker 1: that can win it for you. And there are plenty
Speaker 1: of fellas out there and also not just can win
Speaker 1: it for you, have the confidence to do it. They
Speaker 1: want the ball in their hands in those big moments.
Speaker 1: And that's now those fellows that I've said, But the
Speaker 1: game breaking, the game changing moment.
Speaker 3: But your game changing moment was it a couple of
Speaker 3: years ago? When it might have been a couple of
Speaker 3: years ago? Remember married to Lunge, he made in about
Speaker 3: two or three games in a row, he made these
Speaker 3: incredible trice having tackles in the corner, saving tries, game
Speaker 3: changing moments in origin, same desperation.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely getting a charge down, forcing a kicker to
Speaker 1: kick out on the fall, you know, falling on a
Speaker 1: loose ball. You know, like it's game changing moments. A
Speaker 1: fella that is not renowned for an offload, getting a
Speaker 1: pass away. That's that's where the Origin moments are made.
Speaker 1: Someone getting up when they're hurt to make a try
Speaker 1: saving tackle. You know, it could be anyone to chase,
Speaker 1: you know, someone taking an intercept.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 1: There are lots of ways that the game changing moments
Speaker 1: can have. Just mister referee can have a game changing
Speaker 1: made as puts his whistle away in Origin. Yeah he didn't.
Speaker 1: He didn't early in game one. There was plenty of
Speaker 1: the little six agains and penalties in game one.
Speaker 2: But they generally they still generally let it go a
Speaker 2: bit in Origin. They don't referee the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah they should be.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't disagree anyway.
Speaker 2: Forget the referee. You haven't got three. You're just going
Speaker 2: to leave it. You'll leave your answer at that.
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 3: You top three? Your top three changing players?
Speaker 1: Game changing players? Well, New South Wales full Latrell Mitchell
Speaker 1: can be a game changing player.
Speaker 3: Put him in for one. Yes, Xavier Coats one of
Speaker 3: his miracle catches.
Speaker 1: Jerome lewe Oh, he was the game changing moment in
Speaker 1: game three last year. I was very very tight. He
Speaker 1: was on to come up the line break and got
Speaker 1: Braban best away, but there are plenty of a monster
Speaker 1: can do it. Grant can do it. You know, Tino
Speaker 1: can do it. Valentine Holmes can do it, Hamaso can
Speaker 1: do it. Steve Stephen Crichton can do it. You know
Speaker 1: there's plenty of game breakers there.
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Speaker 2: have Ampole part of the podcast. Right, I guess your prediction,
Speaker 2: your final thoughts. You think New South Wales will win?
Speaker 2: What's the score going to be?
Speaker 3: Can I see.
Speaker 1: Four or five tries from New South Wales and maybe
Speaker 1: one or two for Queensland? So you know five tries
Speaker 1: to two wouldn't surprise.
Speaker 3: Me, so thirty to tenish? Yeah, So if New South Wales.
Speaker 1: Score one less four and Queensland score one more three,
Speaker 1: well you know that'll be a pat As close as
Speaker 1: I get it, things, but I can I can feel
Speaker 1: four or five tries from New South Wales. I can't
Speaker 1: get to three tries for Queensland.
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 1: I just don't see it. But things can happen. Could
Speaker 1: be sindbins, could be sendoffs, could be magic moments, could
Speaker 1: be Munster, could be Xavier.
Speaker 3: They've got the people to do it. I just it's
Speaker 3: been a rain around here this week too.
Speaker 1: That's a fact that in the short time we've been here,
Speaker 1: any of the grass areas here are actually all pretty muddy.
Speaker 1: It's all pretty heavy. So they've had some good rain
Speaker 1: here and I think there's going to be rain on
Speaker 1: Wednesday as well, so that could change things. You never know.
Speaker 1: It's origin, mate. Anything can happen. Anything can happen.
Speaker 2: Remember the first game here when it absolutely threw it
Speaker 2: down and Turbo scored three.
Speaker 1: Anything can happen. They're all great players. They can all
Speaker 1: come up with the magic moment. It's just keeping yourself
Speaker 1: in the contest. Queensland couldn't keep themselves in the contest
Speaker 1: in Game one. They just couldn't get enough possession. At
Speaker 1: the other end of the field. New South Wales were
Speaker 1: two controlled. The forwards rumbled away and the kickers were good.
Speaker 1: The chasers were good, they were disciplined, they didn't give
Speaker 1: away penalties. But they've got to do that and more
Speaker 1: to win Game two. We know Queensland will react a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on the halfback, A lot of pressure
Speaker 1: on the halfback. Need now to step up into daily
Speaker 1: Cherry Evans's shoes and run this team and be responsible
Speaker 1: for that big pressure on him.
Speaker 3: Who's your player of the match.
Speaker 1: If New South Wales win, usual suspects us so you Cleary,
Speaker 1: Dylan Edwards and they're the players that will decide it
Speaker 1: for them. If queens aind't going to win, I think
Speaker 1: that Palmer or Munster have got to have big nights.
Speaker 1: But I think New South Wales win.
Speaker 2: The market on tab Queensland two dollars seventy five, New
Speaker 2: South Wales a dollar forty five. They wouldn't have started
Speaker 2: that shorter price in a long long time.
Speaker 1: Now. It says if we played the game, if we
Speaker 1: played the game three times, they'd win twice. Just depends
Speaker 1: which ones tonight on Wednesday night, doesn't it all right?
Speaker 2: You'll see all the Magic of Origin two exclusively live
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Speaker 3: The venue.
Speaker 2: It's a fabulous vene. I was only talking last week this.
Speaker 2: You feel like there's eighty thousand in here, but it's
Speaker 2: only it's sixty thousand.
Speaker 3: Tops isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been here a few times and I keep
Speaker 1: forgetting what it looks like. But as we drove past
Speaker 1: her today coming to hear it reminded me a little
Speaker 1: bit of the Las Vegas Stadium, Allegiate Stadium out there
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. From the outside. It was just a
Speaker 1: glimpse there and see it's very, very similar to over there.
Speaker 3: But it's a magnificent stadium.
Speaker 2: It's brilliant. Yeah, No, it's great, absolutely wonderful. Lovely city Perth.
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