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Speaker 1: Nine podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to a special State of Origin preview of six

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Speaker 2: Tackles with Gus, presented by tab We're live on the

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Speaker 2: ground here in Perth, where it's very sunny and it's

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Speaker 2: very warm, and it looms. Is one of the most

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Speaker 2: important Origin games that has confronted Queensland for many, many years.

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Speaker 2: The Blues have not won four straight State of Origin

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Speaker 2: games since nineteen ninety six ninety seven. Do they seal

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Speaker 2: the series here in Perth and look to sweep it

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Speaker 2: in Sydney or can queens They make it a decide about.

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Speaker 3: At a core.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Phil Gold, Matthew Thompson. How are you doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm good. It's nice to see some warmth and sunshine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit different the weather over here in

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Speaker 1: Perth to what we left in Sydney, but yeah, I

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Speaker 1: always like coming to Perth, been here a few times

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Speaker 1: over the decades. Lovely clean city, very relaxing. It is

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Speaker 1: big country town. I think they won't like that you're

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Speaker 1: a city, it's a.

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Speaker 2: Major city of Australia, but no, it is. It is

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Speaker 2: lovely play to visit. It does take a long time

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Speaker 2: to get here though, Yes.

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Speaker 1: Well we've got a little taste of what the challenge

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Speaker 1: might be for the Perth Bears in a couple of

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Speaker 1: years time, when they're traveling every second week. I think

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Speaker 1: they're going to have to adjust their draw They're going

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Speaker 1: to have to work with the NRL pretty closely. I'd

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Speaker 1: imagine it's best for them to probably play two or

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Speaker 1: three in a row at home and then two or

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Speaker 1: three in a row in Sydney and get a home

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Speaker 1: base over there, rather than traveling across the country as

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Speaker 1: often as they do.

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Speaker 3: The Warriors don't get such favors there, No, they done.

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Speaker 1: It's only two hours. I mean, towns will further than

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Speaker 1: the New Zealand for a lot of the games that

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Speaker 1: they play. Yeah, I guess travel is just part of

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Speaker 1: it and you have to work it in. What about

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Speaker 1: the ridiculous scheduling for the poor old Panthers this week?

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Speaker 1: I just noticed that, Well it's not this week, is it?

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Speaker 1: Or yeah, this week is it? The Warriors on the weekend?

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Speaker 1: How ridiculous. They're playing Wednesday night in Perth, all these

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Speaker 1: origin players and they've got them backing up Friday night

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Speaker 1: in New Zealand. How would they ever expect those players

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Speaker 1: to back up? Do that?

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Speaker 3: That's a strange, bitter scheduling. That's really terrible.

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Speaker 1: If I was the Panthers club, I've been blowing up.

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Speaker 3: It makes it impossible for Penrith, doesn't it.

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Speaker 1: Well, then they're not going to take their origin players

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Speaker 1: across there. They're not going to take you know, someone

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Speaker 1: at the NRL would have said, oh, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: They probably won't play anyway because they haven't played in

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Speaker 1: previous years. Well, in previous years they are leading the

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Speaker 1: camp that's short. Now they're in a battle for the

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Speaker 1: top eight. I'm sure they would have loved to had

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Speaker 1: those origin players available.

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Speaker 3: How do we do that? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: How do we do that to our game?

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Speaker 3: That's shooting yourself in the foot.

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Speaker 1: Well, shooting the product in the foot, that's what it's doing.

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Speaker 3: Don't think they've be any lightning interruptions over here.

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Speaker 1: No, that was bizarre yesterday, wasn't it.

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Speaker 3: You don't plan for that stuff, do you?

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Speaker 1: No, you don't know, you don't.

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Speaker 3: Did you know what the protocol was?

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Speaker 1: No? I knew that. I knew. I've got some recollections

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Speaker 1: back in the past where games were delayed a little

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Speaker 1: bit for lightning. In the old days, we didn't. We

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Speaker 1: just kept playing. It could have been lightning everywhere. They

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have cared that kept going. But yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: a strange game because it was really we never got

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Speaker 1: a second half. We had a long delay between the

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Speaker 1: first half and the second, a couple of long breaks there,

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Speaker 1: and so it was Yeah, it was difficult, but please

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Speaker 1: the team got the win. It was an interesting round

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Speaker 1: of rugby league, wasn't it. Only five games played on

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Speaker 1: the weekend, but some great results. I mean, the Dragons

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Speaker 1: looked as though they had the Sharks measure at halftime

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Speaker 1: the other night and then capitulated. The Sharks went home

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Speaker 1: to win. Never saw the Titans beating the Seagles, and

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Speaker 1: particularly by that score. I mean, that was a bizarre performance.

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Speaker 1: The other night, Gold Coast.

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Speaker 3: Beating the Seagulls mainly got some issues.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Roosters had to work really hard to beat the Knights,

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Speaker 1: and Nights led for most of that game, but the

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Speaker 1: Roosters did well to get them in the end.

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Speaker 3: And then they fled a sharp in that game either.

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Speaker 1: And then a stunning performance by the Dolphins, absolutely stunning

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Speaker 1: performance fifty eight to four against the Cowboys up in

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Speaker 1: North Coinsland. Fifty eight to four. They're a good size.

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Speaker 3: You've been on the Dolphins bandwagen for a couple of weeks, now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well that was stunning, absolutely stunning what they did

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Speaker 1: to them, and they did it with ease. It could

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Speaker 1: have been more. It really could have been more. The

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Speaker 1: Dolphins are on the way, baby, They're going to be

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Speaker 1: very hard to beat.

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Speaker 2: So to the point of Origin, the Blues have been

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Speaker 2: here twice before and won both games by thirty two points.

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Speaker 2: Yet the scenario is very different because on both of

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Speaker 2: those occasions they lost the series opening game. So it's

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Speaker 2: now up to Coeensland to win here to keep it alive.

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Speaker 2: A bit of extra pressure and one how that plays

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Speaker 2: into the mentality of both states.

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Speaker 1: Well, New South Wales are in the box seed, I

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Speaker 1: mean winning a game in Brisbane, winning Origin one in Brisbane,

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Speaker 1: it's a big bonus for them and they did it

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Speaker 1: so convincingly too. They are in game three. Whatever happens

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Speaker 1: here in Perth, New South Wales are in game three.

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Speaker 1: Game three is going to mean something for them. It's

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Speaker 1: either a decider or it's going to be for a whitewash,

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Speaker 1: both of it which will be important for the Maroons.

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Speaker 1: They're not in game three. Yet they've got to get there,

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Speaker 1: and they've got to get there by winning this one.

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Speaker 1: And they've made some changes to their lineup, they've taken

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Speaker 1: some gambles. I'm not sure that they've addressed the problems

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Speaker 1: that beset them in game one. And you know, right

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Speaker 1: from the start, I think New South Wales will win handsomely.

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Speaker 1: But Origins are funny beast. They can get out there

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Speaker 1: and get on the wrong leg early Queensland can get

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Speaker 1: on the right leg. And if New South Wales haven't

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Speaker 1: done their homework, if New South Wales don't improve from

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Speaker 1: game one to Game two, then they're just inviting disappointment

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Speaker 1: into their life, because we know how Queensland will rally

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Speaker 1: around this one. I wouldn't read too much into perth

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Speaker 1: form in the past. As you say, Queensland were one

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Speaker 1: up in the series when they came here the last

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Speaker 1: couple of times, and they're renowned for kind of losing

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Speaker 1: game two if they win game one. But yeah, to

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Speaker 1: get this to a decided, they've got to improve them

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Speaker 1: measurably out of what we saw in the first game.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not sure they've addressed the problems that they've had,

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Speaker 1: they're going to have to do it mentally rather than personnel.

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Speaker 2: Was so, I think we've covered the Cherry Evans thing

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Speaker 2: pretty well over the last little while, but I'm curious

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Speaker 2: on your thoughts on the other changes Billy has made.

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Speaker 2: Now you were talking about and I think anybody that

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Speaker 2: watched that first game saw that news South was completely

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Speaker 2: out muscled Queensland and the thinking was they'll go for

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Speaker 2: a forward enforcer. Well, in fact, they've gone for Kurt Capele,

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Speaker 2: the veteran back rower. They will start the arrow at

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Speaker 2: Locke and they'll bring Carrigan and Nana, who is probably

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Speaker 2: their best playering game went off the bench.

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Speaker 3: What does that all say to you, Well.

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Speaker 1: It says to me I highly doubt that's going to

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Speaker 1: be their starting pack. I think they'll be changes before kickoff.

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Speaker 1: They've probably named them that way, I don't know, just

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Speaker 1: to have some thinking music in the background. They've got

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Speaker 1: the personnel that they probably wanted. Kurt Capble is an

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Speaker 1: experienced performer. He's played center, he's played back row, he's

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Speaker 1: played in the middle. I guess they've brought his experience

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Speaker 1: imagine that he's going. Well, I don't know where he'll

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Speaker 1: defend early because Nana I was sort of over on

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Speaker 1: the right. But I guess he's going to contend with

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Speaker 1: one of the harms in the opposition to him. But

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Speaker 1: whether they thought it was going to be Moses or Cleary,

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Speaker 1: now it's going to be Lewie. Of course that's a

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Speaker 1: big change to the new South Wales side. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: Caple coming back to be a starting back rower in

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Speaker 1: such an important game. I have some question marks on

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Speaker 1: that one. He's a good player, been a good player

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Speaker 1: for a long time, but it.

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Speaker 3: Probably wouldn't have questioned if he was there in game one, would.

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Speaker 1: You, Well, it would have made more sense. It would

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Speaker 1: have made more sense if he was replacing Ruben Cotter

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Speaker 1: in the background. I don't know that playing Ruben Cotter

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Speaker 1: in the background is is where he's best served these days.

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Speaker 1: It just seems like a funny looking pack for me,

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Speaker 1: given what they've got on the bench and what they've

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Speaker 1: needed out of game one. If they were going to

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Speaker 1: address it, I just I don't understand it at all.

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Speaker 1: I can't understand the Patrick Carrigan coming off the bench.

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Speaker 1: I can't stand cape Will starting in the second row.

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Speaker 1: I can't understand Cotter starting in the second row, and

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Speaker 1: I still say they won't start with Harry Grant. I

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Speaker 1: still think Kurt Man will start the game with a hooker.

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Speaker 1: They have to. I think they lose whatever chance they've

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Speaker 1: got if Harry has to get out there early in

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Speaker 1: the game. Reven Cotta might started hooker, could well do.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who it does, but I just don't

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Speaker 1: think it should be Harry. If they want to use

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Speaker 1: Harry as a weapon, if Harry's going to be a

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Speaker 1: grain breaker for them and a winner for them, I

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Speaker 1: think he's best coming off the bench. That doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: I'm saying he's a bench player. That doesn't mean I'm

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Speaker 1: saying he can't play eighty minutes. But at this level,

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Speaker 1: they just pump so much defense, you work into him

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Speaker 1: early that he just hasn't got the sprint in the

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Speaker 1: legs when they need it most, when he normally comes

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Speaker 1: off the bench and has a big impact. I think

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Speaker 1: they're missing out on a great opportunity to turn him

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Speaker 1: into a weapon. Now, maybe they're hoping to jump out

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Speaker 1: of the blocks, get the jump on New South Wales,

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Speaker 1: get to the front on the scoreboard and then play

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Speaker 1: a spoiling game from there, which is Queensland's way. But

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Speaker 1: I don't think they have addressed personnel wise. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they've addressed the issues that beset them in game one.

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Speaker 1: Now you can do a lot of that with attitude.

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Speaker 1: You can do a lot of that around game planning

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Speaker 1: and the strategy, etc. But to do that, that's why

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Speaker 1: I thought they needed Cherry. Evans won't go back overall ground.

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Speaker 1: It's Diden's job now, but it's a big ass from

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Speaker 1: him as well. Making months to the captain is interesting

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Speaker 1: because I think that'll give him even more responsibility about

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Speaker 1: loading the team and taking ownership of their big moments

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Speaker 1: and ownership maybe even to the kicking game. And so yeah, Queensland,

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Speaker 1: they've got a lot of work to do in a

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Speaker 1: short space of time to turn around that Game one,

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Speaker 1: not just the result on the scoreboard, but the result

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Speaker 1: of the flow of play of how dominant it looked

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Speaker 1: in New South Wales. I think if New South Wales

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Speaker 1: can just learn from game one, I think they can

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Speaker 1: really put Queensland to the sword in game two.

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Speaker 3: So you do think they'll be changes, I'll be.

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Speaker 1: Surprised if there's not changes to the starting line up

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Speaker 1: prior to kick, well, will I be surprised. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's an odd looking pack.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't make sense

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Speaker 1: to them, just in that seventeen that were probably you know,

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Speaker 1: come back on to Fadawaka and for Sulmula. Are we who?

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Speaker 1: As I said prior to Game one, I'm playing with

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Speaker 1: they just didn't do it game one. They weren't seen

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Speaker 1: Origin can do that. They can. They can get on

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Speaker 3: The one thing they've got in their favor, everyone's writing

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Speaker 1: Well, it's exactly where Queensland wants to be. This is

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Speaker 1: where Queensland love it, and Queensland loved being the underdog.

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Speaker 1: They love being written off, and every done commentator like

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Speaker 1: you and I and everyone else around that keeps writing

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Speaker 1: on walls and.

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Speaker 3: Would be the first time you're better in a Queensland wall.

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Speaker 1: Nah, that's right. I probably should invoice them from.

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Speaker 2: Motivation services rendered. So the thunderbolt in New South Wales

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Speaker 2: was the injury to Mitchell Moses, which is very untimely

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Speaker 2: for both the Blues but also paramatter. But that New

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Speaker 2: South I was doing the luxury of power shitting Jerome

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Speaker 2: Lewie back in there. He was among New Southwell's best

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Speaker 2: last series a lineball call. You were saying he thought

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Speaker 2: he probably deserved to keep his spot when he gets

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Speaker 2: his chance in game two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now, please take this the right way. I think

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Speaker 1: it makes New South far stronger. But that's nothing against

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Speaker 1: Mitchell Moses simply because of the long term combination between

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure that's not lost on Loui either. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure he watched the game as closely as everyone else

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Speaker 1: and he'll be seeing his opportunities as well. But on

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Speaker 1: sheer combination under pressure, on sheer decision making under pressure,

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Speaker 1: familiarity is important. Their relationship between the two Cleary and Leui,

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Speaker 1: got to make them stronger, it's got to make them

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Speaker 1: better under pressure. Not saying that Mitchell Moses couldn't have

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Speaker 1: it actually makes them stronger to have that combination that

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Speaker 2: Max King gets a starting spot. It's a final one

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Speaker 2: of the bench. I think they missed Mitch Barnet. He

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Speaker 2: thought he was tremendous. In fact, he said two Origin

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Speaker 2: games he's been outstanding in both of them. Now both

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Speaker 2: of them the band's uncle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, really strong, really strong constitution. You know he's one

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Speaker 1: of them, bony, hard bodied, hard working forwards. And you

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Speaker 1: know he played really well in Game one. He was

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Speaker 1: King to get a start. He won't let them down.

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Speaker 1: His attention to details excellent, his leg speed's great, his

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Speaker 1: defensive responsibility is really good. I thought he was really

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Speaker 1: good work early, but he will be on the back

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Speaker 1: of a CIA and you know, if he needs it,

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Speaker 1: if he has to go first before they run, he'll

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Speaker 1: do it. If he gets to come on the back

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Speaker 1: of them, well he'll do that too, and he'll do

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Speaker 1: it very effectively. So and they've also got some strength

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Speaker 1: she goes, very little change from the Game one. They've

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Speaker 1: actually brought in someone who's even more familiar and I

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Speaker 1: think I thought Kalama tongue in key On Kalama tongue.

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Speaker 1: He was very unlucky not to get that front rower

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Speaker 1: spot off the bench. Stefano form has been all right

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Speaker 1: coach and the selectors that well, at least he'd been

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Speaker 1: the occasion coming off the bench. There Hudson Young, Spencer

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Speaker 1: they can do it both ways. I think the bench

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Speaker 2: Huts and Young actually look really dangerous in the middle

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Speaker 1: It's a growing trend in the game for edge fords

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Speaker 1: their first twenty minutes. You know, sometimes size and bulk

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Speaker 1: that's where these fleet footed backgrowers and the ones that

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Speaker 1: And he was very effective, particularly when he came onto

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 1: He's got great leg speed, he runs hard, he bounces

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Speaker 1: he used that way. But by the same taken he's

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Speaker 1: you know, if New South Wales behind. If the game

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Speaker 1: on and Spencer len you can certainly come on and

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Speaker 1: change the trend. Hudson Young, whether he plays on the

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Speaker 1: the one that's pretty much you see. What you see

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Speaker 1: the bench. As I say, I can't work out the

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Speaker 1: starting lineup going forward. I honestly think kurk Man will

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Speaker 1: start at nine. That's my belief. If it doesn't happen, well,

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Speaker 1: I can't explain that.

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Speaker 2: But if it was intending on starting someone specifically at hooker,

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Speaker 2: you think he'd pick a specialist hooker, ain't you.

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Speaker 1: No, Not necessarily, Well, Ben Hunt wasn't a specialist hooker.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, but someone kirk Man's highly versatile. Don't get

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Speaker 2: me wrong. I'm sure he can do the job, but

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Speaker 2: he's not known as a nine.

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Speaker 1: Well, they made plenty of substitute nine at Newcastle doing

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Speaker 1: the same thing playing lock and nine. I think when

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Speaker 1: of the reasons we bought him at the Bulldogs was

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Speaker 1: because he had that versatility. But he's ended up. He's

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Speaker 1: not sure if Queensland need a ball playing lock Ford.

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Speaker 1: I guess he's there covering a few positions, but primarily

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Speaker 1: I'd be using him in the hooking role to start

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Speaker 1: the game, if only for fifteen or twenty minutes, just

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Speaker 1: to save Harry Grant from a lot of grunt work early,

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Speaker 1: which no doubt New south Wales will do. You know,

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Speaker 1: New south Wales will get the ball and every time

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Speaker 1: chase to make tackles. It's only going to wear they're

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Speaker 1: every second tackles Harry Grant, well he can't be a

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Speaker 3: A strangers the.

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Speaker 2: Pack as it looks, and I agree when it was announced,

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking this is odd.

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Speaker 3: But the more I look at it, it's a work

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Speaker 1: His mentality might be just to try and hold the

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Speaker 1: packs have always been picked on work ethic, absolute work ethic.

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Speaker 1: They want people to pressure kickers, they want people to

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Speaker 1: up like they're this work great players. They're not part

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Speaker 1: think in Origin you probably need a little bit more

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Speaker 1: than that. I think the new South Wales pack's far

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Speaker 1: more dangerous, far more balanced, and has more strike to

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Speaker 1: it and more versatility to it, and I think there's

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Speaker 1: more impact from the bench as well. I think there

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Speaker 1: are more options off the bench to change the momentum

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Speaker 1: that exists from the fellows on the bank. I can't

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Speaker 1: see New South Wales losing. I just can't. And as

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Speaker 1: much as I respect Queensland and what origin is and

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Speaker 1: how these games can change, on the surface of it,

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Speaker 1: I can't see a Queensland win.

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Speaker 3: There's another headline for the dressing room all well, yeah, but.

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Speaker 1: We're sitting in We're sitting in the soundproof birth. No

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Speaker 1: one cares what we say. But I'm just saying I

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Speaker 1: can't see it. I can't see Queensland getting out of

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Speaker 1: that game one. What happened up there, If New South

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Speaker 1: Wales do their homework and if they can improve again

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Speaker 1: on what happened in game two, and I think with

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Speaker 1: that in mind, Luai is the perfect one to come

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Speaker 1: in and do that as well. I think he can

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Speaker 3: Energy, energy and enthusiasm.

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Speaker 1: Energy and no fear, no fear. He's got that, He's

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Speaker 1: got this instinct that he wants to attack it all

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Speaker 1: So if they're going to pressure, if they think pressure

433
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 1: and kickers is a thing, you know, Mitchell Mays's right

434
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,240
Speaker 1: foot kicker on the left hand side of the field

435
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,600
Speaker 1: sometimes doesn't work so well. Clearing doing the bulk of

436
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 1: the kicking makes him vulnerable. And Cleary didn't really kick

437
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 1: that well in game one. They're sort of blaming the

438
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 1: football a little bit, but he wasn't hitting the ball

439
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,000
Speaker 1: at all well, either goal kicking or even with his

440
00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 1: general play kicking. You know, we'll see how that goes

441
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 1: in game two as well. But he and Leui I

442
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 1: know when to mix it up. They know when to

443
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,680
Speaker 1: kick left and right. They know when one's going to

444
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,920
Speaker 1: be under pressure for the other. They've got each other's back,

445
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,880
Speaker 1: they've done it so often together. I just think it's

446
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 1: going to help because that's one of the things Queensland'll

447
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 1: be looking to do. Queens And will be looking to

448
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 1: put pressure on opposition kickers, not that the rules allow

449
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 1: it too much these days. Give him a bump and

450
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 1: they give a penalty.

451
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 3: Their best kickchaser in game one was Nana. He chased everything.

452
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 1: He's on the bench well he chases the ones he

453
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,640
Speaker 1: can score off. They're the ones he chases. The short

454
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 1: kicking game, they all chase if they think they're a

455
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 1: chance of scoring a try.

456
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 3: Good point. It's a longer dropping five bucks on the road.

457
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's the kick chases I'm talking about. Are

458
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,880
Speaker 1: the ones where you've had your backs to the wall

459
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: and defense and you get out there and you're only

460
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 1: on about the thirty or the forty on tackle five

461
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 1: and your half it happens on tackle two and your

462
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 1: half back six now is a good time to kick

463
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,360
Speaker 1: and doesn't find tuts. Well, then you've got to find

464
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 1: your kick chase, and not on your own. You've all

465
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 1: got to go down together. That's kick chase is so important.

466
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 1: Meters made from kicks downfield. It's such an in crucial

467
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 1: part of the modern day rugby league game, and particularly

468
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,159
Speaker 1: in origin as well. So got plenty of blakes. You

469
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 1: chase it when they are a chance is scoring a try.

470
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 1: But when they chase it, will they chase it? When

471
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 1: you know the pulse is under and eighty and there's

472
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 1: no air in the lungs and the legs are burning,

473
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 1: and they've been defending a few sets of six on

474
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 1: their line and suddenly the half access chase this. You know,

475
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 1: we're going to get down there and chase it, and

476
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 1: if they don't, we'll deal on. Edwards runs it back

477
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 1: as far as you can kick it. So, yeah, he

478
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 1: chases the good kicks. All got to chase the other kicks.

479
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 2: He was remissing me not to mention that kurk Man's

480
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 2: about to become the oldest Queensland debutntent Arthur beats and

481
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 2: in the first Origin, what.

482
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 1: A story, what an absolutely got a great story. And

483
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,479
Speaker 1: I've told you so. I tried to sign him twelve

484
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,199
Speaker 1: thirteen years ago. It's a young five eight at Panthers

485
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 1: at the time. He had the choice, I saw the

486
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 1: Melbourne Storm. He chose the Melbourne Storm, which was a

487
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 1: good pick at the time. We weren't going that well

488
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,360
Speaker 1: Melbourne were Melbourne's always going well.

489
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 3: But it was a bit of a whiz kid back then,

490
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 3: wasn't he He was?

491
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 1: He was young five eight from Queensland and I think

492
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 1: he's from country Queensland, way out the back somewhere, but

493
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 1: he Yeah, he's You've got a good old fashioned attitude.

494
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 1: He's got a hard edge to him. He's been great

495
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 1: for the Bulldogs. But we're not talking about the Bulldogs

496
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: the other day. But he's he's been wonderful for our club.

497
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: And he's got leadership and he's just raw bone, old tough,

498
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 1: you know, old old set of values.

499
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 3: And he's had a wretcheder injury.

500
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: He won't let anyone down, no, he has. And he's

501
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 1: played every position on the field, very versatile.

502
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 3: He's from Winton.

503
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: Winton. Yeah, Winton's a long way out in Queensland. Somewhere

504
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: where's Winton?

505
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 3: I don't know.

506
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 1: The other Queenslander me from Penrith. Yeah, but you called

507
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 1: a lot of foods I did.

508
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, at Central West coins that one hundred and seventy

509
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 2: seven kilometers northwest of Longreach. That's right, that's out there,

510
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 2: that's out there. That'd all be tough from Winton, wouldn't they.

511
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 1: Well, they have enough for a football team in Winton.

512
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 1: He probably had to do it all himself. That's where

513
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: he learned all the positions.

514
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember, right in the middle of right in

515
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 3: the middle of Coinslands.

516
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: And he was very young when I first spoke to him,

517
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 1: very young, but you could see there was a man there,

518
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 1: you know, he was he wasn't a boy, he was

519
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: already a man. You could just tell the country kids

520
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 1: are good stock mate.

521
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 3: So Winton's as close to Alice Springs as it is

522
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 3: to Brisbane.

523
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: Well there, they're going to be tough out there.

524
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 2: I'm conscious that the Queensland forwards were sitting Game one,

525
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 2: but I can't help but think it's a big night

526
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: for Carl and Ponger. He hasn't he really hasn't had

527
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 2: a great year and it's been a while since his influenced.

528
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 3: In Origin game.

529
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

530
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 2: Well, I know he's played a lot, a lot consistently

531
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,239
Speaker 2: because of injury, but I feel like it's a big

532
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: night for him, particularly with Walsh Pack.

533
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 1: Well, it's a big night for all of them. It's

534
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: a big night for Tom did and it's a big

535
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 1: night for Camera Munster. I mean, they've got to get

536
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 1: things happen. It's a big night for the forwards Pack,

537
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 1: I mean Tino and mat To they've got to show

538
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: show their class in this game. They've got to get

539
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: coins and on the front foot. And I think if

540
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 1: they do, Like how much of Ponger is his own

541
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: personal form? How much is he a victim of what's

542
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: happened at Newcastle over the last twelve months and how

543
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: they've been fairing and you know, and you don't like

544
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 1: to you don't like to be a victim, but sure

545
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: Klin's got the ability. You don't lose your ability. It's

546
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: just that New South Wales was so great on controlling

547
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: the ball, so great on kick chase. There was really

548
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: nothing on offer for him on kick reception. He didn't

549
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: have time to wind up or position other players. They

550
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: weren't getting a lot of ball at the New South

551
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: Wales end of the field, so we never really came

552
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: into the action. He's now got a new halfback to

553
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: combine with nothing in the way really until kirk Men

554
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: gets on the field of a ball playing type lock

555
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: to tap into. It's probably him and Harry Grant and

556
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: him and Munster. I guess you know which news our

557
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: worlds will be aware of that, and I think that's

558
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: where they'll concentrate there, or at least where Dylan Edwards

559
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: will be marshaling the troops. He'll be very wary of

560
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: where they're bobbing up on the field. And Calen Ponger

561
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: in that head gear is not hard to spot. He

562
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 1: was out the back waiting for the ball, but a

563
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: big game for him. It's a big game for all

564
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: the Queenslanders. But that again, that's where Queensland liked to be.

565
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: This is by the time they've sat in their circle

566
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: and hold hands and sat around the campfire and sunned

567
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: their songs and you know, pat of each other on

568
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: the head and forget game one. Now we've got them, now,

569
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,719
Speaker 1: we've sucked them in. Everyone's tip. We just where we want,

570
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: the boys them just where we want, just where we want.

571
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: We've seen this movie before, trust me, we've seen this

572
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: movie before. And if the scores are close, if the

573
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: scores are close, when we get down to the back

574
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: end of the game, who's going to prepare for that

575
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: the best? I mean, if the scores are locked with

576
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 1: ten minutes to go, just put yourself in that scenario

577
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: for a moment. Who do you think is prepared for that?

578
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: Who do you think is expected that New South Wales

579
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: or Queensland. I mean, if Queensland are going to win this,

580
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: I think that's probably where the game is going to be.

581
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: It's going to be close with ten minutes to go,

582
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: and then they come up with the big play or

583
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: they're able to defend a two point lead or something.

584
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: A New south Wales preparing for that, a new South

585
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: Wales ready to go down to golden point or go

586
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: down to field goal territory, or you know, be just

587
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: behind or just be in front when with ten minutes

588
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: to go. Mentally, there's a rehearsal there as well. I

589
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: guess Queensland know that they're probably not going to blow

590
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 1: New south Wales away. It's going to have to be

591
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: close if they win, so they're thinking about the eighty

592
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: minute effort. I used to say to origin players, you know,

593
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: like particularly young fellas coming in or you know, important games.

594
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: One of the messages I gave was that it's really

595
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: easy to get excited and get nervous. And everyone's excited

596
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: and nervous for the start of the game, and you

597
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: want that first touch and you want that first touch

598
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 1: to be good, and you kind of lie away thinking

599
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: about that first hit up or that first tackle, or

600
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: that first catch of the bomb and all the things

601
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: you're talking. You're thinking about. It's a bit like going

602
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: to golf. What do you think about on the way

603
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: to golf? You think about that first hit off the

604
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: first te don't you. But it comes and goes so quickly,

605
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: your first hit up, your first tackle, your first touch,

606
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: or your first involvement in the game. It comes and

607
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: goes so quickly. Where most of these are decided by

608
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: the last thing that you do. A lot of games,

609
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: the big games, are decided at the back end, in

610
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: the final moments, And so I used to ask them

611
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: to put themselves in that position when you're gassed, when

612
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: you're injured, when the game's on the line, when we're

613
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: two points in front, were we're two points behind, think

614
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: about the last thing you do, your last kick chase,

615
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: your last tackle, your last support play, your last run,

616
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: your last fall on a loose ball, your last cover defense.

617
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: You know, think about that last play, because that could

618
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: be the one that actually decides it. You know, not

619
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: when you're fresh and ready and nervous and excited and

620
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,479
Speaker 1: feeling good, but at the back end where you feel terrible,

621
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: where your lungs are burning and your legs are aching,

622
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 1: and you're probably injured, and you know you've been out

623
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: there for a long time, and you know the game's

624
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: in the balance, the results in the balance. There's not

625
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: long to go your two points in front of your

626
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: two points behind, and put yourself in that scenario with

627
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: your visualization. Interesting watching. Danny Widler interviewed New South Wales

628
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: fullback the other night, Dylan Edwards, and he said, you

629
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: know what's been the development of our game over the years,

630
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: He said, the visualization, the mental part of the game.

631
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: They're sitting down and rehearsal, the mental rehearsal of the game.

632
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: Putting yourself in those types of scenarios the whole time.

633
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: And I think all professional sportsmen need to do that.

634
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: They pretty much all do sort of yoga and breathing

635
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,239
Speaker 1: and meditation and all those sorts of things, and it's

636
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: about putting yourself in those positions, putting yourself in those

637
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: moments visually before the game, you know, and saying all right,

638
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: well I'm there, I'm tired, I'm buggered. You know the

639
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: scores in the balanced referees, you know, giving them a

640
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: penalty they shouldn't have got, or got a flaer in

641
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: the sin bin, or it's teaming rain and or two points,

642
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: all the scenarios that can be really difficult to handle.

643
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: Put yourself there mentally before the game because then when

644
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: you get in that moment, you actually rehearsed your thoughts

645
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: you rehearsed how you're going to feel, and you rehearsed

646
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: what you're going to be telling yourself. If you don't,

647
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: then it can get the better of you. And we've

648
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: seen that happen so often, and it usually happens a

649
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: few times before you realize I need to I need

650
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: to rehearse this before I go out and do it.

651
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,959
Speaker 1: It's like doing goalkicking practice, putting yourself under game pressure.

652
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: Put yourself under game pressure and your rehearsal and your goalkicking.

653
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: You know, I used to do a drill with Iven

654
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: clear you when he was at the rooster. I say,

655
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: you had to kick twenty out of twenty before he

656
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,239
Speaker 1: could go home. And he said, when you got down

657
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: to seventeen, eighteen and nineteen, if you get if you missed,

658
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: you had to go back to one.

659
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 3: Where was it kicking from?

660
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: No, just conversions just around the post. You know, it's

661
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: just titting around the post. But you know it was

662
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: just a it was more a mental thing, you know,

663
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: like he said when he got down to seventeen, eighteen

664
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: and nineteen, knowing that if he missed one, he had

665
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,719
Speaker 1: to start back at zero. And he's dying to get

666
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: armed towards the sale of the century or what if

667
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: you want to watch on TV? You know, he said,

668
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: that's that that was the pressure. You know, that's game pressure.

669
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: You could feel it, you know, And I think you've

670
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: got to do that same you know they do putting

671
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: drills in golf. I got all this from golf analysis

672
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: and the golf books that I used to read in

673
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: the mental game on golf and try to put footballers

674
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: in the same scenario. And but Origin, it's just heightened,

675
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: that's all. It's just a heightened state of awareness and

676
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Speaker 1: a heightened state of rehearsal and visualization.

677
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Speaker 3: And it works.

678
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Speaker 1: It works.

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Speaker 2: Archie binks what's around? Carrigan says, it's a big core

687
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: medium to the bench.

688
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 3: What does it say?

689
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: Still don't think you'll start there. You could well start

690
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: the game anyway. I just don't know what what the

691
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: thought process is whether or not they're just hoping. You know,

692
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: if if Queensland start with the pact that they've got

693
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: fad Awake at Grant and Tina up front and trently

694
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: Eero trently Aero at Locke, they're just hoping that they

695
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: get some ball early, get on the front foot, Harry

696
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: can do something with him with Ponger and Munster and

697
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: then they can sneak a couple of quick tries or

698
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,719
Speaker 1: get to the front and the scoreboard, you know, dominate

699
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: a little bit of field position, dominate a little bit

700
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: of possession, get New South Wales a little bit nervous

701
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: and then bring on their tacklers, then bring on their

702
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: high work rate players to come out and you know,

703
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: go from there. You know, I don't know, Maybe I

704
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: don't I don't know. I just don't know why Paddy

705
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: Carrigan's not starting the game, to be honest, other than

706
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: the fact that they've probably picked something they think can

707
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: get to the front. Now, if you're going to do that,

708
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: we'd have Nanai starting because he can get you a

709
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: try out of a kickchase or a line break or

710
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: what have you.

711
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: So or they might have picked Corey Hawsbro.

712
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: Well, yeah he was. He was one that I really

713
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: would have considered. Yeah, I don't know, as I say,

714
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: I can't see the strategy there in Yeah, in the

715
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: way the team has been picked.

716
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 3: Oh, this is a tough one from Michael Edwarods.

717
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: He's asking the hard question if Queensland loses game too,

718
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 2: what does the future hold for Billy Slater as coach

719
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: and what kind of rebuild would the Marines need to

720
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: undertake for twenty twenty six. We haven't him lost yet,

721
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: but he's asking what might happen if they do.

722
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think Billy's in any danger of losing. Yeah,

723
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: well that hasn't happened yet. We'll worry about that when

724
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: we get the result.

725
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 2: It's a hard one to answer it out, Dan Finnigan.

726
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 2: After their dominant performance in Game one, what's the biggest

727
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: danger for the Blues?

728
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: The biggest danger from my perspective, is in your mental

729
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: preparation for the game or in getting ready for game two.

730
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: You think it's going to be exactly like Game one.

731
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: But if you go out and do exactly what you

732
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: did in Game one, things will go exactly the way

733
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: they did, and that's not going to happen. It very

734
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,479
Speaker 1: rarely happens that way. That whatever you did in game one,

735
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: you've got to understand there's going to be a reaction

736
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: from the opposition, and they've already reacted both in in

737
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: the naming of their team and the dropping of their

738
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: captain and sparking a results. So if we go out

739
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: with exactly the same game plan we had for game one,

740
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: it won't be good enough because queens and will be

741
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: ready for it. These are the best of the best.

742
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: This is not a club game and we go out

743
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: and play the same way every week. You know you

744
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: get the same results, but you know origin there will

745
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: be a bounce back from Queensland. What New South Wales

746
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: needs to learn there's not so much what happened in

747
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: game one, but what could have happened, what what other

748
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: things were there that they didn't explore. And I saw

749
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: some real opportunities for New South Wales that if they

750
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: choose to go that way, I think can really pull

751
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: Queensland's pants down. And I'm not sure that Queensland will

752
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: be ready for it, certainly not ready for it for

753
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: the way they've picked their team. So I just think

754
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: that you know, if New South Wales can advance, they'll

755
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: be they'll be too strong. But if they don't, my

756
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: greatest fear for New South Wales is it's not complacency,

757
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: but it's to think that this will just be a

758
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: continuation of what happened in game one. The game one,

759
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: Game two will start exactly the same way. Remembering they've

760
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: got a few six agains, they've got a couple of penalties,

761
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: and they've got a couple of turnovers. All right, cut

762
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: the turnovers out. Queensland's not going to drop the ball

763
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: this time. Cut the penalties out because that's not going

764
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: to happen. All right, Now, can we set for set grind,

765
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: set for set grind, set for set grind, and still

766
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: be nil all after twenty minutes? Who's winning? At nil all?

767
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: It's nil all after twenty minutes? Who's winning? Who's ready

768
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: for that part of the game? And as I said

769
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: to you, who's ready for the part of the game

770
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: at the last ten minutes when the score is a level, Well,

771
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: Queensland's got their nose in front, or you've only got

772
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: your nose in front there, or we get down the

773
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: field goal territory, because that might be a part of

774
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: the game that New South Wales haven't mentally prepared for.

775
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure as professionals they will have. But that's always

776
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: the danger that you just expect. It's a continuation of

777
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: the previous game and it never is.

778
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 2: All Right, We've got Airpole on board now with six

779
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,319
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782
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Speaker 2: to know the top three players to have a game

783
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: changing moment on Wednesday night.

784
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: The top three players to have a game changing moment.

785
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 3: If you're going to throw three in there that could

786
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: have a game changing moment, who would you choose?

787
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: Well, the other night someone asked me about the top

788
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: three who I think the top three players will be?

789
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 3: And I think that was me.

790
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: Last week?

791
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 3: Was it?

792
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I went paying half Asi and Nathan Cleary.

793
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: But if you're looking for game changing moments, game changing moments,

794
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: a game changing moments could be a Xavier coach, a

795
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 1: leap and catch, which I think is one of the

796
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: ways that they can score. A hammer tack will break

797
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: in a sprint. Yeah, well that's going to have to

798
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: come from an offload somewhere. You know someone's going to

799
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: have to put him away. You know, a monster can

800
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: come up with a game changing moment. Harry Grant can

801
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: come up with a came changing moment. Buttrell Mitchell, No, No,

802
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: off the bench, Latrell Mitchell. There's plenty of you know,

803
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 1: that's the beauty of Origin. You've got plenty of players

804
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: that can win it for you. And there are plenty

805
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: of fellas out there and also not just can win

806
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: it for you, have the confidence to do it. They

807
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: want the ball in their hands in those big moments.

808
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: And that's now those fellows that I've said, But the

809
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 1: game breaking, the game changing moment.

810
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 3: But your game changing moment was it a couple of

811
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 3: years ago? When it might have been a couple of

812
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: years ago? Remember married to Lunge, he made in about

813
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 3: two or three games in a row, he made these

814
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 3: incredible trice having tackles in the corner, saving tries, game

815
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: changing moments in origin, same desperation.

816
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely getting a charge down, forcing a kicker to

817
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: kick out on the fall, you know, falling on a

818
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: loose ball. You know, like it's game changing moments. A

819
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: fella that is not renowned for an offload, getting a

820
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: pass away. That's that's where the Origin moments are made.

821
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: Someone getting up when they're hurt to make a try

822
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: saving tackle. You know, it could be anyone to chase,

823
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: you know, someone taking an intercept.

824
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 3: There.

825
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: There are lots of ways that the game changing moments

826
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: can have. Just mister referee can have a game changing

827
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: made as puts his whistle away in Origin. Yeah he didn't.

828
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: He didn't early in game one. There was plenty of

829
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: the little six agains and penalties in game one.

830
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 2: But they generally they still generally let it go a

831
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 2: bit in Origin. They don't referee the same.

832
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: Yeah they should be.

833
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 3: Well, I don't disagree anyway.

834
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: Forget the referee. You haven't got three. You're just going

835
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: to leave it. You'll leave your answer at that.

836
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: What's that?

837
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 3: You top three? Your top three changing players?

838
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: Game changing players? Well, New South Wales full Latrell Mitchell

839
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: can be a game changing player.

840
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 3: Put him in for one. Yes, Xavier Coats one of

841
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 3: his miracle catches.

842
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 1: Jerome lewe Oh, he was the game changing moment in

843
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: game three last year. I was very very tight. He

844
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: was on to come up the line break and got

845
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: Braban best away, but there are plenty of a monster

846
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: can do it. Grant can do it. You know, Tino

847
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: can do it. Valentine Holmes can do it, Hamaso can

848
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: do it. Steve Stephen Crichton can do it. You know

849
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: there's plenty of game breakers there.

850
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: Whether you're cheering on from the sidelines or the living room.

851
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: Airpole has got your back on and off the field.

852
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: Proud to partner with Australia's own sporting nation. Great to

853
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 2: have Ampole part of the podcast. Right, I guess your prediction,

854
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 2: your final thoughts. You think New South Wales will win?

855
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 2: What's the score going to be?

856
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 3: Can I see.

857
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 1: Four or five tries from New South Wales and maybe

858
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: one or two for Queensland? So you know five tries

859
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: to two wouldn't surprise.

860
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 3: Me, so thirty to tenish? Yeah, So if New South Wales.

861
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: Score one less four and Queensland score one more three,

862
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: well you know that'll be a pat As close as

863
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: I get it, things, but I can I can feel

864
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: four or five tries from New South Wales. I can't

865
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: get to three tries for Queensland.

866
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 3: I can't.

867
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: I just don't see it. But things can happen. Could

868
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: be sindbins, could be sendoffs, could be magic moments, could

869
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: be Munster, could be Xavier.

870
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 3: They've got the people to do it. I just it's

871
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 3: been a rain around here this week too.

872
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: That's a fact that in the short time we've been here,

873
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 1: any of the grass areas here are actually all pretty muddy.

874
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: It's all pretty heavy. So they've had some good rain

875
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: here and I think there's going to be rain on

876
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: Wednesday as well, so that could change things. You never know.

877
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: It's origin, mate. Anything can happen. Anything can happen.

878
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 2: Remember the first game here when it absolutely threw it

879
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 2: down and Turbo scored three.

880
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: Anything can happen. They're all great players. They can all

881
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: come up with the magic moment. It's just keeping yourself

882
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: in the contest. Queensland couldn't keep themselves in the contest

883
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: in Game one. They just couldn't get enough possession. At

884
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: the other end of the field. New South Wales were

885
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: two controlled. The forwards rumbled away and the kickers were good.

886
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: The chasers were good, they were disciplined, they didn't give

887
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: away penalties. But they've got to do that and more

888
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: to win Game two. We know Queensland will react a

889
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on the halfback, A lot of pressure

890
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,959
Speaker 1: on the halfback. Need now to step up into daily

891
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: Cherry Evans's shoes and run this team and be responsible

892
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: for that big pressure on him.

893
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 3: Who's your player of the match.

894
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: If New South Wales win, usual suspects us so you Cleary,

895
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: Dylan Edwards and they're the players that will decide it

896
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 1: for them. If queens aind't going to win, I think

897
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: that Palmer or Munster have got to have big nights.

898
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: But I think New South Wales win.

899
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 2: The market on tab Queensland two dollars seventy five, New

900
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: South Wales a dollar forty five. They wouldn't have started

901
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: that shorter price in a long long time.

902
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: Now. It says if we played the game, if we

903
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: played the game three times, they'd win twice. Just depends

904
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: which ones tonight on Wednesday night, doesn't it all right?

905
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 2: You'll see all the Magic of Origin two exclusively live

906
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: and free here from perth Opter Stadium.

907
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 3: The venue.

908
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 2: It's a fabulous vene. I was only talking last week this.

909
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: You feel like there's eighty thousand in here, but it's

910
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 2: only it's sixty thousand.

911
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 3: Tops isn't it.

912
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been here a few times and I keep

913
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: forgetting what it looks like. But as we drove past

914
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: her today coming to hear it reminded me a little

915
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: bit of the Las Vegas Stadium, Allegiate Stadium out there

916
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. From the outside. It was just a

917
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: glimpse there and see it's very, very similar to over there.

918
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 3: But it's a magnificent stadium.

919
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 2: It's brilliant. Yeah, No, it's great, absolutely wonderful. Lovely city Perth.

920
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: We're on here at Big Country Town. We're on here

921
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: at seven pm. You can catch it all on nine

922
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: and I'll see you out there, Gus. Good to see

923
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 2: in the wild West.