WEBVTT - Tech Talk with Trevor Long

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get some tech updates and find out what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on in the world of technology, and our very good

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<v Speaker 1>friend Trevor Long's on the phone, technical guru from EFTM

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Mate, I've got to tell you, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>happy what's happened. Well, since Apple updated the phone the

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<v Speaker 1>other day. I mean, I don't know whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>this is in conjunction with them bringing in a new phone.

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<v Speaker 1>And whenever they do this, they try to make everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>phones they've already got obsolete. So what they've done is

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<v Speaker 1>they've taken the function out of my phone where when

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<v Speaker 1>I give the weather and it's say seven degrees it

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<v Speaker 1>used to say, but feels like and I've been able

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<v Speaker 1>to give people really accurate weather forecasts every morning to

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<v Speaker 1>the innth degree, and I could say, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's seven degrees right now in Sydney, but it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like they've taken that function out of the phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, here's the thing. I don't use the Apple Weather app.

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<v Speaker 2>I just used the Bureaus app. Yeah, but you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>As I look at my location, I don't see any fills.

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<v Speaker 1>Like see and you know what, though, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's working in Canberra.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, oh really, yes, maybe they just can't estimate

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<v Speaker 2>how it feels like in Brisbane and Sydney because we're

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<v Speaker 2>so volatile in our temperature. But I have certainly it's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with a new update or anything that

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<v Speaker 2>was our past. No, none of that is yet available

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<v Speaker 2>right to the average punter, or clearly something to do

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<v Speaker 2>with the data that they're getting. You see, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>Apple doesn't do weather. They just buy the data from

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<v Speaker 2>some other company, and so I would suggest that that

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<v Speaker 2>data has changed something, something's aw.

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<v Speaker 1>They're in a little bit of a you know, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get him to get the app thing, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a sort of wouldn't want.

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<v Speaker 2>You to have. They would love you to use the

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<v Speaker 2>weather app and not rely on another app.

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<v Speaker 1>So what you're friends with them?

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't go that far, but you know, getting nailing

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<v Speaker 2>them down on a particular tiny feature like that near

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<v Speaker 2>on impossible.

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<v Speaker 1>I know there's a lot of things that you want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about, but let's just quickly go back to

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<v Speaker 1>how you were blindfolded and led through you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of inner sanctum of Apple when they released all

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<v Speaker 1>the information. How secretive was it? Did they take your

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<v Speaker 1>phone away from you, so you couldn't take any photos

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<v Speaker 1>of their new technology. Were you under like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sworn to secrecy or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they don't take your phone away from you, but

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<v Speaker 2>they're very clear about what you kenna can't do. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's I've been to Apple Park, they're headquarters many many

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<v Speaker 2>times over the last kind of ten years, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not changed much, but there's a brand new building

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<v Speaker 2>little not a building, it's actually underground and it's come

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<v Speaker 2>peeks out of a hill and it's this beautiful, beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>building or area they call the Observatory. And I've been

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<v Speaker 2>there a couple of times, but this time they were like,

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<v Speaker 2>you can take photos here right here. They put a

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<v Speaker 2>sculpture in this one location, but I couldn't take photos

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere else. They're very kind of protective of some of

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<v Speaker 2>those things. But the real I guess protective nature of

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<v Speaker 2>Apple is unlike other companies, they don't tell us in events, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so a little kind of inside baseball. But when I

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<v Speaker 2>go to let's say, a Samsung event, So there'll be

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<v Speaker 2>a Samsung event in July, I'll normally have had a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a briefing about what's coming up. I might

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<v Speaker 2>even gotten to see, touch, feel and use the product

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<v Speaker 2>and take photos and make videos about it before it's

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<v Speaker 2>even announced under strict non disclosure agreement based on a

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<v Speaker 2>certain data and time. But with Apple, it is one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent blindfolders in terms of you know, the information

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<v Speaker 2>that we have, we turn up and we wait, we watch.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're online watching an Apple event, you're learning at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time I'm learning what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's what I want to hear, because I want

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<v Speaker 1>to believe that they've got their building underground, dug out

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<v Speaker 1>the side of a mountain, inner bunker, and we all

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<v Speaker 1>want to believe that that's the case because of the

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<v Speaker 1>secrecy of everything that.

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<v Speaker 2>Can most and Dale will love this, but the most remarked,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Apple Park is so big. So it's a

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<v Speaker 2>it's a ring. Actually actual building is called the ring

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<v Speaker 2>because it looks like a big spaceship, right, So it's

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<v Speaker 2>a big ring. Park lands on the outside, parklands on

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<v Speaker 2>the inside the inside of this ring. So just to

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<v Speaker 2>give you scale and perspective of the size of this building,

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<v Speaker 2>on the inside of this ring, you could place the mcg. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>it's an enormous building, right, So just imagine a four

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<v Speaker 2>story large building built around the mcg as a ring,

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<v Speaker 2>and then there's just acres and acres of parkland. The

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Jobs Theater, obviously named after the founder, is built underground,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's just a small beautiful glass building that peaks

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<v Speaker 2>kind of above the ground that you enter through. But this,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is this is the place where they

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<v Speaker 2>have their events, whether we are seated to hear keynotes,

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<v Speaker 2>speeches and things. And I had to leave San Francisco

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<v Speaker 2>on Tuesday nights to fly home. I missed the opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to see the screening of the Formula one movie which

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<v Speaker 2>Pail in the Steve Jobs Theater. It would have probably

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<v Speaker 2>been the highlight of my life. But as a Formula

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<v Speaker 2>one fan and someone who has the rare access to

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<v Speaker 2>that facility, I was pretty disappointed. But the Steve Jobs

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<v Speaker 2>Theater is probably the ultimate movie theater in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>and underground fifteen hundred or two thousand seat theater built

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<v Speaker 2>by Apple.

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<v Speaker 1>Fact, that is exactly what we want to believe the

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<v Speaker 1>Apple headquarters would look like. So you know, we've vicariously

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed the whole Gotham City experience through you, so Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for that. All right, let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>family and friends tracking app Life three sixty and how

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<v Speaker 1>it integrates with things you know, like this is me

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<v Speaker 1>trying to explain things like a labrador trying to explain,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a brief history of time. So you take

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<v Speaker 1>it over from here.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the This is the idea of two tracking

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<v Speaker 2>apps coming together. So for many years, we've had a

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<v Speaker 2>thing called Tile, which is a little tracking device you

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<v Speaker 2>can put on your car keys, you might put one

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<v Speaker 2>in your backpack so you never lose these items and

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<v Speaker 2>basically works via blue tooth so the things around you

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<v Speaker 2>can find it. There's another app completely separate called Life

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<v Speaker 2>three sixty, and it works on your smartphone. Now. For example,

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<v Speaker 2>my kids have had this on their smartphones for five

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<v Speaker 2>to seven years, ever since they've had smartphones. And it

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<v Speaker 2>basically means that if I'm seeing it home, I can

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<v Speaker 2>look at the app and go, well, the kids are

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<v Speaker 2>at school, sport, or they're walking home, or I can

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<v Speaker 2>see where they are. And it gives parents in this

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<v Speaker 2>modern age, peace of mind. There's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>listening to be going why do you need to track

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<v Speaker 2>your kids? But actually, in the modern age. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>fantastic piece of mind to know that your kids are

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<v Speaker 2>moving from A to B or they have gotten to

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<v Speaker 2>their destination. They said, so well, Life three sixty acquired

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<v Speaker 2>Tile and so now they're one one company and one app.

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<v Speaker 2>So you've now have one app that not only you

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<v Speaker 2>can see where your families, but you can see where

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<v Speaker 2>your things are. So it's basically one app that rules

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<v Speaker 2>them all and it's finally fully integrated. It works really

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<v Speaker 2>really well. So if you're someone who has grandkids or

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<v Speaker 2>kids and you're using Life three sixty, you should now

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<v Speaker 2>know that you can also include your backpack, your keys

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<v Speaker 2>and things like that in the same app, so that

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<v Speaker 2>you've got one app to find all your things.

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<v Speaker 1>Brilliant. Now that's really good and really good for the

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<v Speaker 1>family to just quickly. You know the Apple air.

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<v Speaker 2>Tag, Yeah, give a concept, Yes, how.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you change the bloody battery in that thing?

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<v Speaker 2>So it's two sided, it's white and silver. Yeah, silver side.

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<v Speaker 2>You push in, so holding it maybe in the palm

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<v Speaker 2>of your hand with the white side down, you push

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<v Speaker 2>in on the silver side and then then twist it

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<v Speaker 2>andy clockwise. The silver will pop off and there's a

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<v Speaker 2>cr two three two little button battery in there that

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<v Speaker 2>you simply replace and then when you put it back

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<v Speaker 2>in put the silver on, it'll beep and you twist

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<v Speaker 2>it and it's ready to go again for another year

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<v Speaker 2>or so.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know how many people you've helped out with that,

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<v Speaker 1>because all of the people like me that have got

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<v Speaker 1>been given it will be having that thing going beat

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<v Speaker 1>beat people all the time. It doesn't beat it.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, it's made to be. It's made to be hard

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<v Speaker 2>to open, not ye right, other kids, So the kids

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<v Speaker 2>can't open it with ease and get the button battery

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<v Speaker 2>out and eat them because that's a challenge. We don't

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<v Speaker 2>want young kids consuming button batteries. It has cost them

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<v Speaker 2>lives and injuries. So yeah, it's very strict regulations around

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<v Speaker 2>button batteries. But so that's why it is somewhat difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think pretty easy to open.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you know how, I've had this thing and

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<v Speaker 1>it just keeps going back like that and I just

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<v Speaker 1>kept looking at going surely there must be a way

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<v Speaker 1>to get into it. Now I know thanks to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about Apple's AI strategy getting a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>the criticism.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is that, Well, look, they cop the off that

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<v Speaker 2>because a year ago they announced that theory their voice

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<v Speaker 2>assistant would be ever so smarter, she or he would

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<v Speaker 2>be able to understand more about you through a level

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<v Speaker 2>of intelligence based on what you do on your phone.

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<v Speaker 2>So it could know that you know your mother is

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<v Speaker 2>this person based on your contact, that you've got a

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<v Speaker 2>flight for your mother in your diary, and that if

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<v Speaker 2>you asked at what times my mum landing, it would

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<v Speaker 2>simply know these things. So a real level of intelligence

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<v Speaker 2>to the next level that never launched. And so they

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot of criss criticism over the last few

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<v Speaker 2>months kind of what's going on here, how have they've

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<v Speaker 2>fallen behind? And they actually kind of hit this front

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<v Speaker 2>on at the event. They've kind of made it very

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<v Speaker 2>clear that it didn't meet their expectations. I was given

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<v Speaker 2>the opportunity to sit down with one of their senior executives,

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<v Speaker 2>Greg Joswiak, who is a lovely bloke, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>essentially he said this, we thought we'd chip it, and

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<v Speaker 2>we made a tough call. It didn't meet our expectations.

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<v Speaker 2>It was kind of fascinating to hear them talk about

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<v Speaker 2>this in such a way that they have a threshold

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<v Speaker 2>they have a bar for which products and services much

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<v Speaker 2>must meet. And what I think people are misunderstanding is

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<v Speaker 2>they think of AI as being you know, Chat GPT

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<v Speaker 2>versus kind of Google, whereas Apple's not in that race.

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<v Speaker 2>Apple's not trying to create a chat GBT competitor. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>they partnered with chat GBT. So what they're doing is

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<v Speaker 2>building AI across the device in ways that are useful

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<v Speaker 2>to you and little kind of things across the phone.

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<v Speaker 2>So it is it's a fascinating thing that they kind

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<v Speaker 2>of mea coulpra and took the flat for not launching

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<v Speaker 2>something they said they would, but they also kind of

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<v Speaker 2>drew a line in the sand and said, look, this

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<v Speaker 2>is this is how we see AI. We want AI

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<v Speaker 2>to be useful to people, and they think they've delivered

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of those features already.

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<v Speaker 1>But listen, I want to get you to hang on

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<v Speaker 1>because there's something else really important that we've got to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about as well. Can you hang on for a sec? Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, something very important to do with it Telstra

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<v Speaker 1>Satellite SMS after this, just getting back to Trevor. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we know Trevor, let's quickly talk about this because I've

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<v Speaker 1>got the news coming out Telstra's satellite SMS service now

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<v Speaker 1>working in the Bush more than a million texts of

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<v Speaker 1>Incent hallelujah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they don't muck around either. It launched on Sansung

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<v Speaker 2>Galaxy S twenty five. A couple of weeks. Sgo's now

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<v Speaker 2>available on Apple iPhone. So if you've got an iPhone

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen or later and you're a Telstra customer on an account,

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<v Speaker 2>not on a prepaid when you're in the middle of nowhere,

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<v Speaker 2>your phone will be able to send and receive SMS messages.

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<v Speaker 2>In just I think less than ten days, they had

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<v Speaker 2>a million SMS messages sent via their network. So who's

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<v Speaker 2>the game changer for the bush. It means that you

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<v Speaker 2>have some level of communication, whether it's an emergency or

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<v Speaker 2>just to contact your mates and family. And yeah, now

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<v Speaker 2>on iPhone and Samsung phone. So that's that's a huge

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<v Speaker 2>advance from Telstra.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that mean also that the phone quality is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be better, that they're going to have better covering

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<v Speaker 1>or right.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing to do with phones? Yeah, okay, yeah, great leap

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<v Speaker 2>forward in SMS ing, but nothing to do with phone

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<v Speaker 2>calls unfortunately at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's a start, right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right. Let's just take the little wins when

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<v Speaker 2>we can.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, thank you for sharing that information that you

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<v Speaker 1>weren't supposed to share with us about the Apple headquarters.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fine, they're not listening so well.

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<v Speaker 1>We're never going to be allowed back in there again.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, I really appreciate that. If people want to

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<v Speaker 1>find out everything they need to know about technology, you're

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<v Speaker 1>the man. But what's the website?

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<v Speaker 2>E FtM dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Mate, good to tell it to you, Trevor. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much. Have a terrific day that you, Trevor. Long

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<v Speaker 1>there our technology gurup