WEBVTT - Perth Today with Simon Beaumont Podcast - Tuesday 17 June 2025

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<v Speaker 1>On Perth six PR. This is Perth Today with Simon Beaumont.

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<v Speaker 2>Year, Hi, Simon Bamon with you until one o'clock today.

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<v Speaker 2>Make sure you take part in the program. If you've

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<v Speaker 2>seen something that your fellow six PR listens need to

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<v Speaker 2>know about, let us know one double three eight eighty

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<v Speaker 2>two talk back station, talk back radio program, Love to

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<v Speaker 2>hear from you. The text line is zero four eight

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<v Speaker 2>seven triple nine eight eighty two. Coming up on the program.

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<v Speaker 2>In just a moment, Caroline Spencer will join us the

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<v Speaker 2>Orders of General. She's run the ruler under delays in

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<v Speaker 2>the IT programs across the state government, and in particular,

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<v Speaker 2>I think our listeners will be interested in this the

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<v Speaker 2>two of the IT portals that are under fire, the

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<v Speaker 2>Firearms Register and also the smart writer conversion over to

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<v Speaker 2>being able to use their credit cards. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>our listeners will be interested in that. The figures aren't great.

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<v Speaker 2>There have been delays and have been budget blowouts. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>speak to Caroline Spencer in the studio in just a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>It is National Police Legacy Day, so Commissioner Cole Blanche

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<v Speaker 2>will join us to talk policing matters, but also to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that very important day. How police legacy looks

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<v Speaker 2>after the families of those who've lost someone lost a

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<v Speaker 2>family member, a police officer, male or female in the

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<v Speaker 2>line of active service. Love to hear from you on

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<v Speaker 2>all of those One double three eight two is the

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<v Speaker 2>phone number. I'll have a yes no question for you

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<v Speaker 2>in just a moment before we do that. You may

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<v Speaker 2>have heard any of our news. Happened around about an

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<v Speaker 2>hour ago, Anthony Albanezi was meeting with Donald Trump at

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<v Speaker 2>the G seven summit. Not anymore, not anymore, thanks Lynchi.

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<v Speaker 2>So not happening anymore. That is no longer. So Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>the commander in chief, the US President, is leaving the

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<v Speaker 2>G seven summits to attend to matters involving the Middle

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<v Speaker 2>East crisis. So that's a legitimate reason to leave the

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<v Speaker 2>G seven, isn't it for the commander in chief? So

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<v Speaker 2>mister Alberanzi and Donald Trump will not be meeting up

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<v Speaker 2>the G seven and the court albow a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>by surprise. But it's a pretty legit reason, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>One double three A to eighty two. I have a

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<v Speaker 2>yes no question for you. Right, let's clear this up once.

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<v Speaker 3>And for all.

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<v Speaker 2>Have vapes won the war on vapes. There's been a

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<v Speaker 2>war on vapes, but a vapes won it. Has the

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<v Speaker 2>war been won? And we just didn't even realize. So

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<v Speaker 2>you may have heard on Brecky this morning, Erindale, the

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<v Speaker 2>much celebrated federal policy operator, over twenty five years of

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<v Speaker 2>experience in the public sector, ran some COVID operations. All

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<v Speaker 2>of that. She is not being renewed as the National

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<v Speaker 2>Vape Commissioner, So she's not being renewed. So I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to ask that question today given the you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>cover the issue of vapes and electronics cigarettes all the

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<v Speaker 2>time on the program, and when you think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>when the number of vapes you see in public, you

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<v Speaker 2>see people smoking them in cars, you see flights coming

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<v Speaker 2>back from the pilbra and everyone's vaping when they get

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<v Speaker 2>off the plane. People are buying them online, they're buying

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<v Speaker 2>them a convenience stores. We all know where to buy them.

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<v Speaker 2>So our question today, have vapes won the war on vapes? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Or no? I reckon they have. I reckon. We can't

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<v Speaker 2>stop it, we can't police it, we can't enforce it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I went back to the Act today and had

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<v Speaker 2>a little look online vapes can only be legally supplied

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<v Speaker 2>in WA through a registered pharmacy. Well, clearly that's not

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<v Speaker 2>the case, right, Well, people can buy them illegally. This

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<v Speaker 2>includes substances, accessories, and devices. Non pharmacy retailers such as

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<v Speaker 2>the back of this. Vape shops and convenience stores cannot

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<v Speaker 2>sell any type of vaping product. Well, that's just not enforced,

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<v Speaker 2>regulated or police, is it. We all know where you

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<v Speaker 2>can go and buy vapes, even though I do and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't vape. So a question today, yes or no?

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<v Speaker 2>Have vapes won the war on vapes? In other words,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been it's the vapes of one, the retailer, the

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<v Speaker 2>illegal retailers of one. We can't don't seem to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to stop it. Don't seem to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>stop them being imported, We don't seem to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to stop them being sold. I'd love to hear from

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<v Speaker 2>you today. One double three, A two. We'll keep a

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<v Speaker 2>poll throughout the course of the program today and through

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<v Speaker 2>until one o'clock. Have vapes won the war on vapes? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>as a one and the nose one. We'll keep a

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<v Speaker 2>tally going right through until one o'clock today. Now, we

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<v Speaker 2>do have cole Blanche in a little bit later side.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll ask him. There's a lot of policing issues around

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<v Speaker 2>at the moment, including National Legacy Day, and they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to tell us about what that. We're areas where they

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<v Speaker 2>are ramping up. But you know, I've never seen anyone,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, be ping in a vape shop of retailer

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<v Speaker 2>or someone buying them. You know, we all we pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much all know someone who vapes and where they buy them,

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<v Speaker 2>don't we. We've lost the war, and I reckon Ben

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<v Speaker 2>from Pierre Awards, Yes, the vapes will win. The cats

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<v Speaker 2>out of the bag, Alien says, good morning, Simon is

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<v Speaker 2>vapes of the victors will and truly beating the half

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<v Speaker 2>baked dandy vaping legislation. I wonder how many successful prosecutions

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<v Speaker 2>there have been in this area. I reckon none. Aileen,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you Bowie. They are everywhere. Absolutely, vapes are won

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<v Speaker 2>the battle on vopes. A big yes for me. They

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<v Speaker 2>are everywhere, so that's our yes. No poll today. Have

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<v Speaker 2>vapes won the war on vapes? I reckon they have.

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<v Speaker 2>The illegal selling networks, retailing networks have won the day.

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon, We'll take a break. Love to hear from me.

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<v Speaker 2>One double three, ay two. You can call the program,

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<v Speaker 2>or if you want to text in a response on

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<v Speaker 2>the vapes you can zero four eight seven, triple nine

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<v Speaker 2>eighty two. We will take a break. Caroline Spence to

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<v Speaker 2>the order to general join me in the studio. She

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<v Speaker 2>has run the ruler under it delays and IT budget

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<v Speaker 2>blowouts in the state government and some of these around

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<v Speaker 2>the transport system and Metronet. But I think the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that our listeners will be interested in is the delays

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<v Speaker 2>and the budget blowouts on the Firearm Registry portal of

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<v Speaker 2>of course, that's been in the news for around about

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<v Speaker 2>a year or so. And the other one is the

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<v Speaker 2>conversion of Smart Writer. That's an eight year project and

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<v Speaker 2>we still don't know when it's going to be finished.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk to Caroline in just a second the program,

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<v Speaker 2>Yes or No? Have vapes won the War on vapes?

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<v Speaker 2>The yeses are five, the nose are one. Back in

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<v Speaker 2>a moment. Thanks listening in. I'm Simon Bauman here until

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<v Speaker 2>one o'clock today. We are running a little pole today. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>no pole? Do you think that the vapes have won

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<v Speaker 2>the war on vapes? Tony from Baldiver site, Tony, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>they've won. I don't understand why there's such an importance

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<v Speaker 2>on vaping cigarettes in our society. Alcohol does more damage

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<v Speaker 2>to Tony. Thank you, Tony. The generally the yeses habit,

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<v Speaker 2>So have vapes won the war on vapes? The yeses

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<v Speaker 2>are twenty three and the nose are a one at

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<v Speaker 2>this stage? Why are we talking about that? Well erin Dale,

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<v Speaker 2>who is the celebrated public policy officer who was colloquially

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<v Speaker 2>called the Vapes Commissioner, has not been renewed. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not quite sure why the FEDS were involved in all

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<v Speaker 2>of that, but they were so happy to keep taping.

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<v Speaker 2>Taking your responses through to the program. Caroline Spencer is

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<v Speaker 2>the Order of General of w A and joins us

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<v Speaker 2>in the studio now, Caroline, nice to see you, Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for coming in.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you Simon for inviting me.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you've had a look at the I've had run

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<v Speaker 2>why I'm calling it run the rule. You've had to

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<v Speaker 2>look at delays in it in big projects across government.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you looked at eight, we looked at ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten looked at ten. So the ones I think our

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<v Speaker 2>listeners will be interested in particular are delays and budget

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<v Speaker 2>blowouts with the firearm Registry and delays and blowouts with

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<v Speaker 2>smart Rider. Can you tell us what you found, what

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<v Speaker 2>your people found with those two?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, look, shall let's give a bit of an

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<v Speaker 5>overview of the eight out of ten projects ran over

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<v Speaker 5>cost and out of ten ran over time, and the

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<v Speaker 5>cost for half of the projects we looked at double

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<v Speaker 5>their cost and some of the time blowouts were as

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<v Speaker 5>much as six and a half years.

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<v Speaker 2>So see that seventy eight months I saw.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's six and a half years for those of

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<v Speaker 5>us that can't divide by twelve two easily.

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<v Speaker 2>But I ask you which one that was?

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<v Speaker 4>That was smart Writer? Yeah, so that was smart Writer.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's still not resolved, is it.

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<v Speaker 5>No, Look, it's another couple of years away for delivery,

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<v Speaker 5>or at least next year at the earliest. And look,

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<v Speaker 5>that smart Writer upgrade is about tapping on with your

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<v Speaker 5>credit card or your credit card in your digital wallet

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<v Speaker 5>or debit card. And that's one of those things that

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<v Speaker 5>you don't need to buy a ticket. You don't need

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<v Speaker 5>to actually buy a smart oter card from a kiosk.

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<v Speaker 5>You can if you're a visitor to w Way or

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<v Speaker 5>to Perth your land and you can just use your

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<v Speaker 5>credit card to jump on the airport train and come

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<v Speaker 5>on into the city like you can in other cities.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's an important one. That's a you know, these

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<v Speaker 5>are important projects for customer service, for public service delivery,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know citizens, whether they're interacting with government through

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<v Speaker 5>you mentioned the Firearms Registry, you know they're going to

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<v Speaker 5>experience both efficiencies sort of smoother processing as a result

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<v Speaker 5>of these all customer experience like the smart Otter one.

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<v Speaker 5>But there's some of those others that you know are

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<v Speaker 5>behind the scenes, like the high capacity signaling for trains.

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<v Speaker 5>So the Public Transport Authority has a two and a

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<v Speaker 5>half billion dollar project to upgrade and sixteen years to

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<v Speaker 5>upgrade all the signaling the radio communications for trains, and

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<v Speaker 5>that's about getting trains to run, replacing technology and it's

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<v Speaker 5>a big project. So they're important projects for our community.

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<v Speaker 6>Ye.

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<v Speaker 2>Why what reason has been given to you as to

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<v Speaker 2>why smart writer has gone out to seventy eight months?

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<v Speaker 2>Why is it seventy eight months behind and counting?

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<v Speaker 4>Look what we.

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<v Speaker 5>Found and it's really interesting that the projects that are

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<v Speaker 5>most delayed with the biggest cost blow uts had the

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<v Speaker 5>porest planning the poorest reporting and oversight, so porest governance

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<v Speaker 5>and porest transparency. So you know, it's a really clear relationship.

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<v Speaker 5>So projects with external oversight had better governance controls. When

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<v Speaker 5>I say external oversight, there's a fantastic new project delivery

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<v Speaker 5>and assurance framework that has been implemented by Central Office

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<v Speaker 5>of Digital Government and it actually works really well. And

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<v Speaker 5>so the projects that we're seeing without that, without that

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<v Speaker 5>oversight are the ones that have done worse because they've

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<v Speaker 5>been internally funded. They're sort of lost within big entities

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<v Speaker 5>like Public Transport Authority or even police for the regional

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<v Speaker 5>communications one for police officers.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me ask you that question a different way.

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<v Speaker 2>What is the PTA or whoever responsible ends the years?

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<v Speaker 2>What are they saying? Well, do are they required to

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<v Speaker 2>respond to your report about smart writer blowing out bose

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<v Speaker 2>seventy eight months? And it's I think that there's a

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<v Speaker 2>cost over run too, isn't there obviously? But they have

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<v Speaker 2>to respond to you And what were they saying?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So when we go into ordered agencies, we ask them,

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<v Speaker 5>we present the findings to them, and we ask them

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<v Speaker 5>to when we make recommendations, so around improved governance planning, reporting,

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<v Speaker 5>oversight and generally around you know, good governance practice and

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<v Speaker 5>transparency because that encourages accountability and they agree with that. Actually,

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<v Speaker 5>Public Transport Authority had already before we started this or

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<v Speaker 5>done an internal audit and review and found out some

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<v Speaker 5>of those problems and we're starting to fix them before that.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know this is simon you. Senior decision makers

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<v Speaker 5>within agencies and ministers do not like projects, whether they

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<v Speaker 5>be infrastructure projects you know, like Perth Stadium or a

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<v Speaker 5>children's hospital or any of these things. They don't like

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<v Speaker 5>them blowing out in costs, all being delayed in time.

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<v Speaker 5>We all want things to run smoothly. And so if

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<v Speaker 5>you don't plan properly, you know the old expression if

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<v Speaker 5>you fail to plan, you plan to fail. It applies

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<v Speaker 5>for projects worth a few million dollars or a few

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<v Speaker 5>billion dollars. And obviously there's a scale there of what's

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<v Speaker 5>fit for purpose in those circumstances around skills and resources

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<v Speaker 5>and scrutiny and oversight. But transparency to the public because

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<v Speaker 5>these are public services and affect public services, the quality

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<v Speaker 5>of public services.

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<v Speaker 2>And is really important. And as the point you often

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<v Speaker 2>make when we spoke about local government. Last week you

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<v Speaker 2>spoke about value for money the pub test. This one,

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<v Speaker 2>this one doesn't pass the pub test seventy eight months

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<v Speaker 2>for smart rider conversion, does it.

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<v Speaker 5>No, Look, it's taken a very long time and they're

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<v Speaker 5>telling us that because of you know, technical and resourcing challenges.

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<v Speaker 5>But we found very clearly that poor governance, poor planning

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<v Speaker 5>and lack of foundational planning documents and you know, skilled

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<v Speaker 5>and focused project teams and reporting to senior decision makers

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<v Speaker 5>within public transport authority was really lacking in this, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>just poorly planned from.

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<v Speaker 4>The get go.

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<v Speaker 2>One of our listeners, Aaron o'mell sorry, sent us a question,

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<v Speaker 2>a good question. Why could we have not a bought

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<v Speaker 2>purchased a smart writer kit off the shelf from another

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<v Speaker 2>country that use it, or another city in Australia that

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<v Speaker 2>use it.

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<v Speaker 5>So with these and look this, I don't have all

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<v Speaker 5>that information to hand around what is off the shelf,

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<v Speaker 5>but these are providers who have understanding with that specific project.

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<v Speaker 5>Is that it is a provider who has provided these

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<v Speaker 5>systems internationally.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, you know I'm not having got you here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying trying to find the answers we have covered

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<v Speaker 2>the for want a bit of a term, the firearm

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<v Speaker 2>buyback scheme. We've covered it, the politics of it. Originally

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<v Speaker 2>it was a poor Papollia concept. Explained pretty well to

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<v Speaker 2>one of the shows I was running here Caroline, that

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<v Speaker 2>we're trying to take surfit guns out of the community.

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<v Speaker 2>We're worried about the mental health of some people who

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<v Speaker 2>own guns. They have to go through test. But time

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<v Speaker 2>and time again we took calls on the registration portal,

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<v Speaker 2>the electronic part of it, and as you would say,

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<v Speaker 2>the customer service part of it being complicated, long winded,

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<v Speaker 2>hard to understand. And I never knew whether that was

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<v Speaker 2>just the fact that people didn't like the change, they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't like the fact they're having to give up the guns.

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<v Speaker 2>But it will appear according to the order the General's

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<v Speaker 2>Office that the system has been flawed and has overrun

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<v Speaker 2>both time and budget.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, look this and this.

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<v Speaker 5>Is an important issue, Sigment. This system is going to

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<v Speaker 5>replace manual processes and workarounds, and we've looked at the

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<v Speaker 5>system in the past, over the previous reports that your

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<v Speaker 5>listeners can have a look on our website about some

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<v Speaker 5>of the issues we found with the licensing system. Previously

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<v Speaker 5>and so the fact they need to replace it is

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<v Speaker 5>certainly acknowledged by police and that's why there's been resources action.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's not due to be implemented until December next year,

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<v Speaker 5>December twenty six, so it's not implemented yet, okay, and

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<v Speaker 5>so that's why actually timely delivery. The original completion date

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<v Speaker 5>was the end of last year, so it will be

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<v Speaker 5>two years overdue and funding. The regional cost was estimated

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<v Speaker 5>to be twenty five million, and it's going to cost

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<v Speaker 5>the current estimated total costs. And I have to be

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<v Speaker 5>clear these are current estimates because it change what we

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<v Speaker 5>see in projects generally thirty five million, and some of

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<v Speaker 5>that can be you know, technical specifications or technology is

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<v Speaker 5>changed and there is a better solution, but that's probably

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<v Speaker 5>the limited the sort of more limited circumstances.

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<v Speaker 2>Less it's twenty nine percent blowout percentage. Unfunded is the

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<v Speaker 2>term you use, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? And again any again not having to go

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<v Speaker 2>at you, but is there any explanation given back from

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<v Speaker 2>the police. We've had the officer in charge of that

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<v Speaker 2>program and he's doing his best, but there is there

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<v Speaker 2>an explanation from the it dudes why this is taking

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<v Speaker 2>so long and it's costing so much.

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<v Speaker 5>That one, it's not one of the standout ones for

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<v Speaker 5>real clangers around really really poor governance, but obviously these

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<v Speaker 5>things can be improved. It's you know, the silver one

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<v Speaker 5>for us was when we looked at actually more closely,

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<v Speaker 5>which is the regional communications within police and that was

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<v Speaker 5>an internally funded project, so it didn't get any of

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<v Speaker 5>that sort of external project assurance or oversight. It was

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<v Speaker 5>sort of, I guess lost in a very big organization,

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<v Speaker 5>the WA Police Force. But that's an important one, so

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<v Speaker 5>that police officers in regional areas have the communications to

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<v Speaker 5>be able to respond properly with current technology changing there.

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<v Speaker 5>So look, it's poor planning and then lack of transparency

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<v Speaker 5>to decision makers, whether that be senior decision makers in

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<v Speaker 5>an agency, whether it be ministers, whether it be the parliament,

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<v Speaker 5>whether it be journalists trying to scrutinius and get to

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<v Speaker 5>the bottom of this, and the community is really important.

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<v Speaker 5>So we've got dashboards on our website, elect dashboards that

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<v Speaker 5>give an example of optimal transparency for these types of projects,

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<v Speaker 5>so that people can clearly say, you know, what's happened

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<v Speaker 5>to the project where it's at, what's its When was

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<v Speaker 5>a plan to be delivered? How much was a plan

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<v Speaker 5>to be costing us as taxpayers? But also you know,

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<v Speaker 5>more importantly what some of the key deliverables and issues

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<v Speaker 5>are with that project.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it was probably this time last week

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<v Speaker 2>I spoke to you in Albany. You just hand down

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<v Speaker 2>a report on this is my word, not yours, larges

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<v Speaker 2>by local governments in purchasing catering for functions and the like.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the items you detail was a fifty

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<v Speaker 2>nine dollars bottle of wine from memory. If it's possible,

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<v Speaker 2>how does this compare the one point six billion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>worth of blowouts four to seventy eight months in delays

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<v Speaker 2>compare to what local government are doing with catering. This

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<v Speaker 2>is not good reading, is it.

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<v Speaker 4>I think this is.

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<v Speaker 5>An excellent observation Simon in terms of perspective on these things.

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<v Speaker 4>This is big money, big big money.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know the biggest cost blowout was for that

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<v Speaker 5>train high capacity signaling project. It went from what was

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<v Speaker 5>it? It was it's going to cost you and a half

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<v Speaker 5>billion dollars now and I think it's increased by about

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<v Speaker 5>one point two or one point three billion dollars. You

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<v Speaker 5>know that's massive. Was that a problem in scoping and

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<v Speaker 5>planning at the beginning? Yes, to some degree, technology changing,

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<v Speaker 5>and yes there has been scoping there. But this is

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<v Speaker 5>why it's so important to do really detail as robust

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<v Speaker 5>planning up front as possible, so senior decision makers can

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<v Speaker 5>make that or I guess complementing that, or an important

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<v Speaker 5>part of that is ministers making sure that when they

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<v Speaker 5>announce something, when they announce a new project, whether it

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<v Speaker 5>be an infrastructure project or an IT project or anything else,

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<v Speaker 5>that they're relying on robust costings and sometimes being a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit patient around those before giving a final announcement

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<v Speaker 5>because otherwise, you know, agencies are scrambling. They might know

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<v Speaker 5>that they can't deliver it within that and then they

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<v Speaker 5>have to deliver the bad news later and the parliament

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<v Speaker 5>and decision makers don't have proper information around what it's

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<v Speaker 5>going to cost when we can expect to see good

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<v Speaker 5>outcomes with the intended outcomes from that, and also proper

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<v Speaker 5>oversight if projects get off track.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Caroline spend. So I'm getting a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>correspondence coming in, Caroline, and I'll try and paraphrase it

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<v Speaker 2>and aggregate it. If I can, You're doing good job.

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<v Speaker 2>You're staffing doing good job. Highlighting all of this. Does

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<v Speaker 2>it make any difference this report today, Will it change anything?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, if I can send to me to public servants

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<v Speaker 5>use the project planning, project governance and assurance frameworks that

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<v Speaker 5>are there from the Office of Digital Government, they are

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<v Speaker 5>showing good results. What this all it does is in

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<v Speaker 5>some ways is good news for the initiatives of government

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<v Speaker 5>in recent years to improve digital capability and delivery. So

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<v Speaker 5>the projects that use that, you know, are actually performing better.

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<v Speaker 5>It doesn't make any difference agencies. You know, public entities

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<v Speaker 5>are responsible for their own governance and we have been

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<v Speaker 5>distracted in recent years. There's been a disruption in the community,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know there has Actually this is one of

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<v Speaker 5>the costs, if you like, in that the unintended costs

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<v Speaker 5>that when you divert focused from core services and momentum

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<v Speaker 5>in replacing systems and things, then time is delayed in

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<v Speaker 5>delivery and costs can then expand blow out over that time.

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<v Speaker 5>And so you know, there's it takes an awful lot

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<v Speaker 5>of effort just to maintain basic government services. In terms

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<v Speaker 5>of skills effort resources, and so anything that diverts from that,

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<v Speaker 5>whether it be new reform initiatives, new plans, core service

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<v Speaker 5>deliveries at risk if it's not properly planned and understanding

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<v Speaker 5>the trade offs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, thank you very much for talking to us.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go back to where we started, if that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The smart Rider program has overshot by seventy eight months

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<v Speaker 2>and has blown out this budget. The signaling part for

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<v Speaker 2>the high speed signaling on our train network is blown

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<v Speaker 2>right out as well. And the other one is the

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<v Speaker 2>firearm Registry, which our listeners bring us all the time

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<v Speaker 2>about their three that you have been concerned about, and

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<v Speaker 2>our listeners should be concerned about that's right.

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<v Speaker 5>And seek transparency because transparency insures public entity accountability for

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<v Speaker 5>it projects, but.

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<v Speaker 4>For all our dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Carolin, thank you very much for coming in.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks very much, Simon, nice to see you.

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<v Speaker 2>Caroline spends to the order to general. Happy to get

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<v Speaker 2>your cause on all of this one double three eight

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<v Speaker 2>to eighty two. You've got a fan out there, Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>like this lady cuts to the chase and need more

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<v Speaker 2>like a thank you, Bernie. We'll come back in just

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<v Speaker 2>a moment. We'll take some of your correspondents. Cole Blanche

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<v Speaker 2>not far away either. The Police Commissioner.

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<v Speaker 8>Still dealing with a spill in Nedlin's Stelling Highway closed

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<v Speaker 8>to eastbounder dal Keith Road. Incident response remain on site.

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<v Speaker 8>Diversions are also in place. Make sure you plan the

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<v Speaker 8>head to avoid any delays. Otherwise moving well. Mitchell Quanana

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<v Speaker 8>Graham Farmer and the tunnel Row Highway a little bit

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<v Speaker 8>slow at the bypass in Hazelmere. I'm Rob Beaver rom

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<v Speaker 8>Peruz traffic leader six PR.

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<v Speaker 2>Janine says, Wow, Caroline Spencer is so impressive she should

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<v Speaker 2>be cloned. She's amazing to see. Jeanine. Thank you. Alan says,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't you til Rita SAFIOLDI had listened to this

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<v Speaker 2>woman about over spending. Thank you Allen. Have vapes won

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<v Speaker 2>the war on vapes? We're taking a poll today. One

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<v Speaker 2>of our listeners is vapes have won? And I'm a pharmacist,

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<v Speaker 2>so have vapes won the War on vapes? Is thirty

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<v Speaker 2>seven yeses and just a couple of nose at this stage.

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<v Speaker 2>Every fortnight the Police Commissioner krle Blanche comes into the

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<v Speaker 2>studio and he joins me now with a couple of guests. Commissioner,

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<v Speaker 2>good to see you, Thank you sim much. Good morning, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>good morning to you. We've got a few policing issues

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<v Speaker 2>to cover off, which we will do in the next

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<v Speaker 2>little while. But importantly it's National Police Legacy Day. Please

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<v Speaker 2>introduce us to our guests.

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<v Speaker 9>Absolutely, and it is National Police Legacy Day. It's a

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<v Speaker 9>very important day for all police officers, certainly as the patron,

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<v Speaker 9>so all commissioners are patrons. But I have Aiden Blanchard,

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<v Speaker 9>a new police officer whose father, Scott was in the

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<v Speaker 9>job and died whilst he was serving. And you know

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<v Speaker 9>it's important to have Aid in here today because he's

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<v Speaker 9>a brand new police officer. But I think what it

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<v Speaker 9>does say is that when you go as a legate

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<v Speaker 9>and as a beneficiary, you get to come out the

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<v Speaker 9>other side and join the police force. And I think

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<v Speaker 9>this is a real recognition of the strength of what

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<v Speaker 9>Police Legacy can do because it shows that Aiden has

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<v Speaker 9>been through the most terrible grief in his life but

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<v Speaker 9>he still wanted to join the police force. And we

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<v Speaker 9>have Kelly as the CEO of Police Legacy here in wa.

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<v Speaker 9>She does an amazing job and she just got back

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<v Speaker 9>from Camber where all the heads of Legacy met, so

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<v Speaker 9>they can work nationally but also look after the West

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<v Speaker 9>Australian and so it's a privilege to have them in

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<v Speaker 9>this stay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Hi Aid and Hi Kelly Simon. Nice to meet you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for coming in today. How old are you, Aiden?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm twenty two, twenty two and is explaining what Cole

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<v Speaker 2>said in your words? What does it mean? What did

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<v Speaker 2>Police Legacy Day and Police Legacy mean to you and

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<v Speaker 2>your family?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, it was just absolutely outstanding of the support that

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<v Speaker 10>they were able to provide straight away after my father

0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:34.760
<v Speaker 10>passed away. They were there within the first you know,

0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:38.040
<v Speaker 10>twenty four hours, forty eight hours, offering financial support and

0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:42.800
<v Speaker 10>counseling and just offering, you know, someone to talk to

0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:44.440
<v Speaker 10>and just to help out with us.

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<v Speaker 2>How old was your dad when he passed, Aiden, I

0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:49.280
<v Speaker 2>think it was forty five, Okay, so he's young, all right,

0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:52.080
<v Speaker 2>So that's you were young then you were you were yeah,

0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:55.720
<v Speaker 2>and the family were you know, we're obviously heavily affected.

0:22:56.359 --> 0:22:58.840
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I was only twelve at the time, and obviously

0:22:58.880 --> 0:23:03.040
<v Speaker 10>you think you're just alone. No one's experiencing the same

0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:06.240
<v Speaker 10>grief or something like I am but obviously with the

0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:08.679
<v Speaker 10>police legacy camp that I went on, I got to

0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:10.679
<v Speaker 10>meet the other kids there that were going through the

0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:13.359
<v Speaker 10>same situation, and it just put it into perspective for

0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:15.400
<v Speaker 10>me that there's other kids out there like me, and

0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:16.480
<v Speaker 10>that I am able.

0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:19.639
<v Speaker 2>To push through. Where was a legacy camp I was

0:23:19.640 --> 0:23:22.719
<v Speaker 2>down in Harvey, down Harvey, Okay, Kelly, thank you for

0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:25.800
<v Speaker 2>coming in. He's made unusual in that he's a legacy

0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:29.560
<v Speaker 2>kid or a legacy who's chosen to choose his career path.

0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Is he unusual or is it common?

0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:33.879
<v Speaker 11>I don't think it's common, But I think it's great

0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:38.600
<v Speaker 11>that he can overcome this thing that happened in his

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:42.080
<v Speaker 11>life that was tragic and he's wanted to come in

0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:45.200
<v Speaker 11>and serve the community and serve WA and I think

0:23:45.200 --> 0:23:45.919
<v Speaker 11>it's fantastic.

0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:48.879
<v Speaker 2>We're reminded on occasion that it's a dangerous job, aren't we.

0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:51.399
<v Speaker 2>And this is a testament to it today, isn't it.

0:23:51.520 --> 0:23:51.680
<v Speaker 12>Yeah?

0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:52.280
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely.

0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:56.640
<v Speaker 2>We had an officer in Tasmania, a veteran officer lost

0:23:56.640 --> 0:23:59.879
<v Speaker 2>his life only yesterday and again the long driveways and

0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:02.240
<v Speaker 2>that's not getting any easier out there, is Do you

0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:04.760
<v Speaker 2>ever have any doubts? Do you ever consider any other careers.

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 10>Aiden, Yeah, previously I had a few other jobs in

0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:12.560
<v Speaker 10>trade industry and stuff like that, but I always had

0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 10>police in mind in the back of my mind for

0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:18.760
<v Speaker 10>a number of years, and I just had such so

0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:21.480
<v Speaker 10>many people say, this is a great job, you'll love it,

0:24:21.680 --> 0:24:24.440
<v Speaker 10>and it was really bubbling away into our Where did

0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:27.600
<v Speaker 10>my dad's coroners report? And that flicked the switch and

0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:29.360
<v Speaker 10>it just made me go, Yep, I'm going to do.

0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:33.280
<v Speaker 2>This, Kelly. The support you're able to provide to the

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:37.879
<v Speaker 2>Blanchard family, we Coll and Aiden have reflected on that.

0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:40.200
<v Speaker 2>What other services can you provide for all families of

0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:41.680
<v Speaker 2>different aren't they different circumstances.

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:45.240
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, there's going to be you know, some families have children,

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:48.439
<v Speaker 11>some it might be the husband or wife that's left behind.

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:53.240
<v Speaker 11>So we can offer financial support, we can offer you know,

0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:56.639
<v Speaker 11>just just walking alongside them, just having someone to talk to.

0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:00.320
<v Speaker 11>We can put them in touch with other organizations or

0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:03.600
<v Speaker 11>other welfare support and just know that we're there for them.

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 11>So yeah, that's mainly what we're there for.

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 2>And I think you have personal experience and family experience

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:10.920
<v Speaker 2>in this regard, Dons. I mean, I lived in Newman

0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:13.360
<v Speaker 2>up until two thousand. It's two thousand and one when

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:16.480
<v Speaker 2>the plane went down coming back from an indigenous community

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:19.159
<v Speaker 2>and that was a family issue for you too, wasn't it.

0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:19.680
<v Speaker 13>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, that was my cousin Gavin Capes and Gavin Capes

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:27.800
<v Speaker 11>who passed away in that plane crash. That really affected

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:31.280
<v Speaker 11>the whole family. So knowing that there's my cousin that

0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:35.119
<v Speaker 11>we didn't get to grow up with. Yeah, Unfortunately I

0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:36.840
<v Speaker 11>was away over east. I was in the Army at

0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:40.639
<v Speaker 11>the time, couldn't be back to be with the family.

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:44.040
<v Speaker 11>But knowing that police legacy was there and that they

0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:46.320
<v Speaker 11>got that support was amazing for us.

0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, really affected that community. As I said, I knew

0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:50.920
<v Speaker 2>David Jua really well and I worked with his wife Lynn,

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:54.360
<v Speaker 2>And the death of a copper has a profound impact

0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:56.000
<v Speaker 2>on community, goal doesn't it.

0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:59.120
<v Speaker 9>There's no doubt about it. And obviously, as you mentioned,

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:04.439
<v Speaker 9>only yesterday Tasmania and a police officer murdered whilst serving

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 9>their community. I think that was the first time in

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 9>Tasmania since nineteen twenty two. So the grief that has

0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 9>suffered across an entire organization is immense. It's is why

0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:16.240
<v Speaker 9>police legacy is so important. Just so your listeners understand.

0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:20.160
<v Speaker 9>Almost all police can contribute part of their own salary

0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:24.119
<v Speaker 9>to police Legacy to provide this for the kids and

0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 9>the widows or those left behind, the families left behind,

0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:29.920
<v Speaker 9>and that's why it's so important. It's actually the police

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:34.359
<v Speaker 9>themselves giving to those families and that's why all of

0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 9>us take this very seriously. But when we lose an officer,

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:40.359
<v Speaker 9>the grief that resonates throughout Australia. And I've spoken to

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:44.880
<v Speaker 9>the Police commissioner in Tasmania. It's just something that we

0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:47.760
<v Speaker 9>know that we go and do every day as police officers,

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 9>and we all want to come home to our families

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:53.879
<v Speaker 9>and sadly some don't. And Aiden is someone who it's

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:56.200
<v Speaker 9>such a privilege to have him this police force because

0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:58.719
<v Speaker 9>he has seen the light to join and serve our

0:26:58.720 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 9>community as well.

0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Well said, well is it impressive, isn't he? The commissioner, Yeah,

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:08.680
<v Speaker 2>we will. I have to ask you this, Kelly, having

0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:10.720
<v Speaker 2>lived in Newman, I know that the Bloody Slowe Cup

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 2>has been in him for nineteen years. Is there a

0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:15.879
<v Speaker 2>new personally affected? Is there a reason why it's been

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:18.239
<v Speaker 2>moved to the city this year that you're aware of?

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 11>Well, the event's gone for twenty years. It's a very

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:27.679
<v Speaker 11>costly exercise. You know, those families are getting on in

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:32.200
<v Speaker 11>age and they've been going along to the event every year,

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:35.639
<v Speaker 11>and so we've passed that on to the Newman community

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:39.399
<v Speaker 11>to run their own event up there, and you know,

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:42.399
<v Speaker 11>we'll give them all the support that they need, you know,

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:46.000
<v Speaker 11>potentially go up there and go to the event. But

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 11>it's just it was just time to kind of pass

0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 11>that on.

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, have you been to a few of those calls?

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 9>I have, and look as certainly as commissioner, it's my

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 9>role to go. Then we'll continue to commemorate the four

0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 9>officers that have passed away. And one of the other

0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 9>reason is the parents of those four officers are either

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:02.679
<v Speaker 9>passed away or getting very elderly. Some don't live in

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 9>the state. And there was a conversation with those parents

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:10.160
<v Speaker 9>who probably suffered a reliving of the trauma and grief

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:12.160
<v Speaker 9>every time they come back every year. So it's been

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 9>twenty years, I think many of them said, you know,

0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 9>it's time, it's time for us to not go through

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:20.600
<v Speaker 9>this each and every time. So we wanted to hand

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 9>over the events to the City of Newman and We're

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:26.919
<v Speaker 9>always happy to support that through our presence and we

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:30.120
<v Speaker 9>will commemorate. We'll always commemorate our lost officers. So it's

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:32.879
<v Speaker 9>really a transfer of the events rather than the actual

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 9>situation of those four offices.

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think when I worked at the Shire of

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 2>East Pillar and Trevor Ruhlan was at Roeburn and he's

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 2>passed away. He's a riper bloke. He was good luck,

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 2>good like Aid and hope it goes well. So where

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:46.880
<v Speaker 2>are you at in training terms?

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:47.000
<v Speaker 14>Now?

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:49.320
<v Speaker 2>When did you have you been through through the academy?

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, so I finished the academy in March and I'm

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:55.960
<v Speaker 10>just stationed in Midland at the Booze Bus So it's

0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 10>pretty interesting watching people on the roads.

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, busy. And I would I mention Kelly, thank you

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 2>for coming and keep up the good work. So this

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 2>is a we're talking about this today to raise awareness

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 2>and again to a raise awareness about what a dangerous

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 2>job this is and how important it is in our

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 2>community that we have guys like Aiden entering the police

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 2>force after what he's been through. Yeah, that's what while

0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 2>are we here today, Aid and good luck Kelly, good

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 2>luck to you, Thank you very much. Yeah, thank you

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:26.480
<v Speaker 2>and well call if you wouldn't mind staying. We'll have

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 2>a bit of chat about some policing issues that are

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 2>around at the moment. It is eighteen and a half

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 2>minutes to ten o'clock more of cole Blanche after these.

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 2>There's one really important thing I forgot to do in

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 2>all of that. I heard a cole Blanche say that

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 2>police donate to legacy. Kelly, we can as well. Human

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:43.479
<v Speaker 2>beings and citizens can do it too, can't they.

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 11>Absolutely If you go to our website, so just google

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 11>WA Police Legacy, you can see all the ways that

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 11>you can support us. So we're all up for donations.

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 11>There's merchandise on there, you can come to our events.

0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 11>We'll put everything on the website. But we would love

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 11>to have everyone's support to get some more funding to

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 11>help these families.

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Just today, it is part of the day or.

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 11>Ongoing, absolutely ongoing. So today is just to raise awareness

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 11>of the great work that all the police legacies in

0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 11>around Australia do. But anytime you're very welcome to help

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 11>us out with some funding.

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 2>Please please Legacy website. Have you got a Cold Blanche bubblehead?

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 9>It's so hotcakes, really good man, looks I haven't solved

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 9>very well, Simon, but certainly I'll tell you what does

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 9>so well as the canine small fluffy dogs. So they

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 9>go like hotcakes, don't they.

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 2>H Thanks Kelly, and I apologize for missing that as

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 2>a very important part of why you here, Aid And

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 2>good luck, Kelly, good luck, thank you, thank you, thanks

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 2>for coming in. Cole Blanche is with us today, the

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Police Commissioner here in Western Australia. For you police issues

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 2>we can discuss with Commissioner Blanche today. I did read

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 2>in the paper today, Cole, you've made an arrest and

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 2>a charge around a Nazi gesture and I get us

0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 2>since there's a ramping up of resources in this area.

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 9>We have, and certainly I think our community would expect

0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:06.400
<v Speaker 9>anyone that is allegedly spewing hate out in our community,

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:11.040
<v Speaker 9>particularly around Nazi symbols and Nazi behavior. No one in

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 9>WA or Australia has got time for that. It is

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 9>against the law, so we will be taking action. I

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 9>think it's unacceptable. It caused a significant division within our

0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 9>community and if you're going to behave like that, you're

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 9>going to get a knock on the door from the police.

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 9>It's as simple as that.

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Is it without encouraging it. Is it an area of

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 2>priority for your crew.

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 9>Look, it's certainly something that our State Security Investigation Group

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 9>look at. Thankfully, it's only a very small number in

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 9>Western Australia. Most of our community wonderful people, we are

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 9>united as Western Australians, but there are a small number.

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 9>And here's an example of a tweeny year old man

0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 9>that thought it's okay to be allegedly giving whole Hitler

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 9>salutes online to others in our community. Just an absolute disgrace.

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 2>On an on camera. And that stuff stays published and

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 2>easy enough for your crew to get hold of it.

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 2>There's made a car chase this morning, a police chase

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 2>this morning. I understand Colin so a twenty two year

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 2>old man has been charged and unfortunately a number of

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 2>people have found themselves in hospital.

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 12>Yeah.

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 9>No, Look, we had a police intercepted a vehicle last

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 9>night at Toyota, Kluger and z In Belcado. Now the

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 9>car actually did pull over and as we were making

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 9>some inquiries, it appears that that person may not have

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 9>had a license to drive and other issues related to

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 9>police police information. He then took off and he left

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 9>the scene and tried to evade police for some time

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:42.080
<v Speaker 9>and sadly crashed into an innocent person's vehicle. Thankfully that

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 9>person not seriously injured, but both cars very badly damaged.

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 9>And that person has now been arrested and will be

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 9>charged or has been charged with very serious offenses. What

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 9>time of nightcop, This happened about twelve twenty am, So

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 9>I was the first thing.

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 2>In the morning. Yeah, all right, yeah, no, good happens.

0:32:57.760 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 2>A lot happens way too much, doesn't it.

0:32:59.200 --> 0:32:59.240
<v Speaker 15>That?

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 2>Will you hear about the check all the time? I

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 2>wanted to ask you this. This is stuck in my

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 2>mind forever. I was part of the crew that put

0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 2>the stadium together what we now call up the stadium,

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:10.479
<v Speaker 2>and I do remember at the time a senior copper

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 2>said to me, there's a crop shop, there's a police

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 2>station at the stadium. It's got a couple of cells.

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 2>Has it been operational? Has it been used?

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 9>Certainly is operational. We use it for major events. Not surprisingly,

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 9>there has been what we call the Crowded Places initiative

0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 9>for years in the terrorism environment, knowing that we've seen

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 9>large stadiums around the world sadly been where the location

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 9>of terrorist attacks and other serious incidents. We always have

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 9>a large police presence for large events here in Wa

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:44.560
<v Speaker 9>to make sure our community is safe. Since twenty eighteen,

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:47.840
<v Speaker 9>we've had just over one hundred people put through the cells. Now,

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 9>what that tells me is that that's not a lot

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 9>of people since twenty eighteen, so we're talking about seven years.

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 9>That means West Australians are overwhelmingly well behaved, even at

0:33:56.600 --> 0:34:00.719
<v Speaker 9>the footy signment, which is a good thing. Other than

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 9>those hundred people, most people can be dealt with just

0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:05.960
<v Speaker 9>by a conversation and say, you know, pull your head

0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 9>in or we're going to reject you out of the stadium.

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 9>There's a lot of security there. But we do have

0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:13.359
<v Speaker 9>this police station and sells if we do have a

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 9>serious incident or someone cannot just behave themselves. And I

0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:18.840
<v Speaker 9>think it's important to have that because it is for

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 9>the safety and security of our community.

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Is it used as a community police station or just

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:22.839
<v Speaker 2>on game day?

0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 9>Call just on game day, so we don't regularly start it.

0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 9>It's just for major events, but it is for our briefings.

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 9>It's obviously for custody areas and for police to have

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:33.839
<v Speaker 9>a bit of respite through the day as they work

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 9>the longhoils.

0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 2>So I would imagine, in the absence of knowing, if

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 2>you are at the footy and the croppers come and

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 2>talk to you, and you find yourself in a cell

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:44.719
<v Speaker 2>in the basement of optors, the next place you're going

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 2>is probably out the door, isn't it. You don't get

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 2>to go back into the ground.

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:50.120
<v Speaker 9>Correct, And look, I would say before the cell, you're

0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 9>probably going to get kicked out first, but if you

0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:54.920
<v Speaker 9>kick off, then you're going into the cell and then

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:58.320
<v Speaker 9>we'll process you through. I think our policing in WA

0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:02.400
<v Speaker 9>is about, look, let's stop the stupid behavior, cut it

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:05.319
<v Speaker 9>out and maybe leave. If you want to kick on

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 9>or then we've got that ability to arrest you and

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 9>go further. But my preference is at sporting events. Why

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 9>ruin your day and the day of others. You're there

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:14.760
<v Speaker 9>with your family, that you're there with your friends, enjoy yourself,

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:16.879
<v Speaker 9>don't end up in a police cell. You've gone pretty

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:17.399
<v Speaker 9>far if you.

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 2>End up there, Yeah, no doubt about it. With regards

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:23.880
<v Speaker 2>I hope you can't answer this, or you can choose

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:26.840
<v Speaker 2>not to because you're call Blanche. But down at Geelong.

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 2>They have facial recognition on pundas when they come into

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 2>the ground. Has that come across your desk in a

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 2>note yet? Is that being considered for OPTUS?

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:36.880
<v Speaker 9>Look, certainly, I am not aware of it being at OPTUS.

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:39.799
<v Speaker 9>I do know that casinos and other places do use

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:44.840
<v Speaker 9>it quite regularly for refusal of patrons that have been ejected.

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 9>So their database is those of those people who have

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:52.440
<v Speaker 9>already been denied entry. And that's the way private enterprises

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 9>generally use them. If you've already been denied, they take

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:56.880
<v Speaker 9>a picture and they look for you if you're coming back.

0:35:57.520 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 9>I suspect that will be used more and more by

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 9>private indust It is something for people to be mindful of.

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:04.360
<v Speaker 9>But I think the very clear thing is they're not

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:06.800
<v Speaker 9>taking it from a database from your driver's license or

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 9>your passport or any of those larger imaged databases. It's

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 9>really if you've been captured before and a photo taken

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:13.279
<v Speaker 9>of you.

0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 2>All right, you have a lot on your plate. And

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 2>we've just spoken about the firearm registry, and we've talked

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 2>about that on the program before. That could be tightened

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:25.839
<v Speaker 2>up from an IT perspective. Scooters have come your way

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 2>as well. I've heard one of your senior coppers talk

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:32.839
<v Speaker 2>about the operation a couple of weekends ago. I've heard

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 2>about that, but this is now on your patch, and

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:38.320
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to ask you about vapes and the enforcement

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:40.759
<v Speaker 2>of the illegal sale of vapes because I know some

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 2>convenience store where they're sold. Most people do yes, no

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:47.040
<v Speaker 2>question today? Have vapes won the war on vapes? And

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:48.920
<v Speaker 2>the yeses are forty three? And the nose or one

0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:52.759
<v Speaker 2>who's responsibility to allocate resources to that call? You're hanging

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 2>out convenience stores or going undercover.

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 9>Look, the enforcement of apes is the Department of Health

0:36:57.320 --> 0:37:00.839
<v Speaker 9>across the nation. Certainly, police will only be involved if

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 9>there is violence associated or organized crime, or there's arson

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:07.440
<v Speaker 9>sometimes we've seen with tobacco and vapes, so there's been

0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:11.560
<v Speaker 9>some standover tactics. I think it's a question for Department

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:13.440
<v Speaker 9>of Health about the enforcement, so I wouldn't want to

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:14.360
<v Speaker 9>answer on their behalf.

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:18.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, So it doesn't to be really clear there.

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:21.080
<v Speaker 2>Most of us know where they are. But it's not

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:24.120
<v Speaker 2>for coppers to go under cover and or detectives to

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:25.439
<v Speaker 2>go on the cover and try and buy a vape.

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:28.359
<v Speaker 9>No, that's not our role at this time because it's

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:31.440
<v Speaker 9>a regulation of a prohibited import and product.

0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:34.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, A couple of questions. This one is

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:38.319
<v Speaker 2>my seem unusually comes from someone on your team. Who's

0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:40.480
<v Speaker 2>your origin team? Who are you going for tomorrow night?

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:42.960
<v Speaker 9>Look, that's a really good question.

0:37:43.040 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 2>Firstly, is that only two answers? Only two possible answers? Yeah, Commissioner, Yes,

0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:49.440
<v Speaker 2>I know.

0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:54.880
<v Speaker 9>But I generally don't talk Origin because it is highly

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:58.360
<v Speaker 9>divisive and I've got people in my own organization that

0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 9>are just bleeding color and you can't have a conversation

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 9>with them. So I'm going to remain mute on Origin

0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:07.640
<v Speaker 9>games because it's quite divisive. It's probably one of the

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 9>most divisive games that come up all year. You'd be

0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:12.480
<v Speaker 9>surprised to how many blues we have in the Office

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 9>of Orangin.

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:16.040
<v Speaker 2>It's very strategy, that's very diplomatic from you, very political

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:17.920
<v Speaker 2>as well. It is just a couple of minutes to

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 2>ten o'clock now yesterday.

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:20.359
<v Speaker 16>Kyle.

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:23.400
<v Speaker 2>I know you know, post police commission to day as

0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:25.920
<v Speaker 2>you're very keen on being a Bunnings greeter. It fits

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:29.319
<v Speaker 2>your personality, CHARISMI your temperament. I think you're still keen

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 2>on that I like to use a QR code to

0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:35.719
<v Speaker 2>buy sausage on Sunday from the Bunnings. Is that UnAustralian.

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 9>Well you for got the twenty percent discount card. That

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:41.520
<v Speaker 9>was the other reason why I agree that is very

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:43.920
<v Speaker 9>un Australia. You know you need to I would say,

0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:45.960
<v Speaker 9>let's go back to cash for the sausage. That's where

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:47.400
<v Speaker 9>we need to be. I know they've got an f

0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 9>POS machine.

0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:50.719
<v Speaker 2>Well that's the thing that you can still pay your cash,

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:53.040
<v Speaker 2>but the tap and go has gone to qrco.

0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 9>I am a little concerned about the lack of consistency

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 9>in bunning sausages because in Wa it's a hot dog bun.

0:38:57.680 --> 0:38:59.839
<v Speaker 9>In other places it's a piece of bread. We need

0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:01.000
<v Speaker 9>to all that dispute first.

0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, they're talking about divisive Cole, thanks for coming

0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 2>in today. I really appreciate it. And again it is

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 2>a National Police Legacy Day from you from the top.

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:13.879
<v Speaker 2>Why should people make a donation or buy buy sub

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 2>merch from police legacy.

0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:18.120
<v Speaker 9>Look, I think having aid in here today is that example.

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 9>We want good police in our police force. We want

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:24.120
<v Speaker 9>to and those that lose their life on the job,

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:26.279
<v Speaker 9>we want to look after their family. And I think

0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:28.920
<v Speaker 9>as West Australians we care about people. We are a

0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:32.200
<v Speaker 9>united community. We support and trust our police. It's about

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:34.920
<v Speaker 9>looking after family first and foremost, and I think that

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 9>all resonates with all of us.

0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, Queensland on New South Wales, Victoria done.

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for coming in today, and again thanks to

0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 2>the guy who from Legacy it is an amazing cause.

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:51.480
<v Speaker 2>And to Aiden Blanchard who's now finds himself as a

0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:53.319
<v Speaker 2>copper at twenty two years of age, following on the

0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 2>footsteps of his father is a noble, noble thing. So

0:39:56.880 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Aidan and Kelly and col thanks for coming in today.

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:01.839
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Thank you. Cole Blanche the police commissioner. Five

0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 2>to ten, take a break. Did you know that the

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:06.439
<v Speaker 2>Opta Stadium had a fully operational police station a couple

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:09.160
<v Speaker 2>of cells. I have been aware of that and I've

0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:11.560
<v Speaker 2>always meant to ask police commissioners about it, about how

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 2>it's tracking. One hundred people have been through the cells

0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:17.879
<v Speaker 2>at Opteras Stadium since twenty eighteen. Cole doesn't reckon that's

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:21.040
<v Speaker 2>very many. It sounds like a lot to me. Thanks

0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:23.440
<v Speaker 2>for listening in today. Have vapes won the war on vapes?

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 2>The yeses are forty threes and the nose one bev,

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:29.879
<v Speaker 2>Hi BEV. Good morning, Simon. Yes, vapes have won the battle.

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:34.120
<v Speaker 2>Enjoying show, Dave. A lot of people really impressed with

0:40:34.160 --> 0:40:40.080
<v Speaker 2>Caroline Spencer today. Order the general is great, so it's

0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:42.120
<v Speaker 2>now time for the bureaucrats to be accountable. Since Dave

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:46.080
<v Speaker 2>spot on, Dave, it's not a hot dog savory roll call.

0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:48.799
<v Speaker 2>It is a hot dog savory role call. It's not

0:40:48.840 --> 0:40:52.840
<v Speaker 2>a bun. Hello, Trushy if you're listening. And Troy says,

0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:55.279
<v Speaker 2>watched a young seventeen year old Charlie Cameron tear it

0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:56.879
<v Speaker 2>up at the Bloody Slow Cup in Knwman. He wasn't

0:40:56.920 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 2>bloody slow. He's a gun. Still a gun, isn't he?

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Troy and the goal Charlie. Thanks for listening in. We'll

0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 2>come back after the news. Plenty still to come here

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 2>on Perth Today.

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 1>On Perth six PR. This is Perth Today with Simon Beaumont.

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for listening in. Today we're running a yes no

0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 2>poll today. Have vapes won the War on vapes? The

0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:34.560
<v Speaker 2>yes of forty seven, the nose of one and interesting

0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:36.879
<v Speaker 2>to hear Cole Blanche the Police Commissioner a flat out

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:39.800
<v Speaker 2>say it's not for us to police it. We're not

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 2>going to send undercover cops into convenience stores. We're not

0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:46.880
<v Speaker 2>going to send them onto mind sites, pink people getting

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:51.000
<v Speaker 2>off planes. Vapes are everywhere, freely available. We all know

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 2>where to get them. It's illegal to sell vapes, but

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:58.400
<v Speaker 2>no one's getting Pingdalih. There might have been a bit

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:00.320
<v Speaker 2>of a correction in that a lot of retailers stop

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 2>doing it, but it doesn't look like anyone's enforcing it.

0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 2>And Commission of Blanche was really clear says it's a

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:08.759
<v Speaker 2>health department issue, so they need to enforce it. I

0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:10.880
<v Speaker 2>don't know how they do that. I don't know what

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:15.280
<v Speaker 2>the officer. There are there health officers who wear uniforms

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:17.160
<v Speaker 2>and go around and police this stuff. Can they go

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:21.359
<v Speaker 2>under cover? I don't know that there's been any prosecutions,

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Has there any zero? I think it's very clear on

0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:28.839
<v Speaker 2>the health WA health website you can't sell it. There

0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:30.839
<v Speaker 2>are places where you can't vape in public, you can't

0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 2>vape in certain premises if the owner doesn't want you to.

0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:39.440
<v Speaker 2>But everyone's doing it. I reckon is getting worse. One

0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:42.040
<v Speaker 2>double three eighty two is the phone number and lots

0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:44.320
<v Speaker 2>of pubs do have beer gardens where you can smoke.

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 2>That's okay, that's fine. We would rather people didn't smoke,

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:50.680
<v Speaker 2>but people do and they hang out in the beer garden,

0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:52.759
<v Speaker 2>have a drry, have a drink, and people vape in

0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:56.480
<v Speaker 2>them as well. So have vapes won the war on vapes?

0:42:56.480 --> 0:43:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Of yeses are forty seven and the nose one. I'd

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:02.839
<v Speaker 2>love to hear from you one double three eight eighty two.

0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:05.400
<v Speaker 2>We had put in a request. We knew we're going

0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:07.640
<v Speaker 2>to talk to Caroline Spencer today about the blowout on

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Smart Rider and the blowout on the high speed traffic

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:13.799
<v Speaker 2>signals for the train line. So Caroline Spencer let us

0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:16.799
<v Speaker 2>know that the smart Rider conversion so we can tap

0:43:16.840 --> 0:43:19.759
<v Speaker 2>and go at train stations, ferries and non buses is

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:22.759
<v Speaker 2>seventy eight months behind schedule and has blown out the

0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:25.759
<v Speaker 2>budget by about fifteen percent. So we have it. We

0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:27.799
<v Speaker 2>knew that was coming. We've seen the report and we

0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:30.360
<v Speaker 2>have us to speak to the Transport Minister. Reader Safiordi

0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:33.200
<v Speaker 2>not available today but has sent in a statement. I'll

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:35.560
<v Speaker 2>look at some of that. As you know, it's normally

0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:38.320
<v Speaker 2>not something we do do, but some of it's instructive

0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 2>in responding to the OAG report and the like. It's

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:43.920
<v Speaker 2>ten past ten. Call in one double three eight eighty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello Debrah, Yeah, good morning.

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:47.440
<v Speaker 17>How are you Bowie?

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:48.120
<v Speaker 2>Good? Thank you?

0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:52.720
<v Speaker 17>What's happened on, miss Cole Blanchet. I've got an issue

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 17>with a traffic infringement three hundred don fine three demerit

0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 17>points because my tire was partner on the white line

0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:07.400
<v Speaker 17>at a red at a red light. Yeah, okay, I

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:11.560
<v Speaker 17>didn't go through the light. I've obviously rolled forward because

0:44:11.560 --> 0:44:13.440
<v Speaker 17>I can see in the side there's a car behind me,

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:17.600
<v Speaker 17>is right really close behind me. Teak traffic from Leach Chila.

0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:21.719
<v Speaker 17>I always leave a good half a car distant tree

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 17>myself because of car accidents and whatever, and the offense

0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:30.719
<v Speaker 17>of stopped before circular red signal stop line, and I

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:32.600
<v Speaker 17>just think that's absolutely ridiculous.

0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that doesn't sound right. Yeah, I know there's I

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 2>know there's a fine infringements. I've got one too, deb

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 2>where if you save you you want to turn right

0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:43.359
<v Speaker 2>and you pull into the pull in the right hand lane,

0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:44.879
<v Speaker 2>and then you change your mind and go back into

0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:46.600
<v Speaker 2>the main fly travel. I've got one of those that

0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:49.799
<v Speaker 2>are on the traffic camera that's changing lanes illegally, but

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:52.399
<v Speaker 2>your one doesn't sound so you weren't over the weren't

0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:56.759
<v Speaker 2>over the line, but you were over the sideline.

0:44:56.560 --> 0:45:01.800
<v Speaker 17>Into my ties, probably just the white line. I wasn't

0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:05.560
<v Speaker 17>over it as in the whole ton of car, but

0:45:05.719 --> 0:45:09.879
<v Speaker 17>it looks like the tire is maybe just I've only

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:10.719
<v Speaker 17>got a tiny car.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yet, so can you appeal it now with the photo?

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<v Speaker 17>Well, on the paperwork, I go to court. But on

0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:23.279
<v Speaker 17>the option of stock, which you don't want to do,

0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:27.880
<v Speaker 17>cost a review? Nice, request a review or elect to

0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:29.680
<v Speaker 17>have the matter determined by court.

0:45:29.880 --> 0:45:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, I've never done that, but I reckon request the

0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:37.359
<v Speaker 2>review and see what happens and let us know how

0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 2>you go. Because if you if you're not over the line,

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:42.800
<v Speaker 2>you're not over the line. That should be clear in

0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:43.400
<v Speaker 2>the photograph.

0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:46.880
<v Speaker 17>So well you can see in the photograph. But it

0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 17>must have just triggered something. But because the tire might

0:45:50.120 --> 0:45:51.880
<v Speaker 17>have been touching.

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<v Speaker 2>This morning, Yeah, all right, request the review. Yeah, I

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:03.160
<v Speaker 2>request the review. Deb go through the process. Let us

0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:05.359
<v Speaker 2>know how you go. And any other listeners have got

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:08.360
<v Speaker 2>advice for Deborah? Have you ever requested of you based

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:11.040
<v Speaker 2>on photo evidence? Give us a shout one Double three

0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:16.320
<v Speaker 2>eighty two is the phone number. Thanks for your thoughts today,

0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:19.040
<v Speaker 2>Jim says, Yes, the vapes have won, but the government

0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:21.439
<v Speaker 2>doesn't want to win or ban them. The government wanted

0:46:21.440 --> 0:46:23.880
<v Speaker 2>to tax them. Yeah, we spoke about that this warning

0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:26.000
<v Speaker 2>gym before the show. Is it a matter of just

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:29.800
<v Speaker 2>selling them and taxing them? When they came about as

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:31.719
<v Speaker 2>a way of getting people off the darries, didn't they

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:35.120
<v Speaker 2>because they have Lesnick nicotine content. But they are, according

0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 2>to my mates, highly addictive and easy on the throat

0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:42.160
<v Speaker 2>and tasty. And you can get them you know where

0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:44.960
<v Speaker 2>to get them. People get them online, don't get sent

0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:49.000
<v Speaker 2>to hunt their homes or to you know. Yeah, go

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:51.480
<v Speaker 2>out and go out and watch a fly and fly

0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:53.279
<v Speaker 2>out crew coming back from the pill where any day

0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:54.879
<v Speaker 2>of the week and we'll see how many people are

0:46:54.960 --> 0:46:57.520
<v Speaker 2>using vapes and I reckon they haven't bought them from pharmacies.

0:46:57.520 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 2>Twelve and a half minutes past ten, we have got

0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:06.440
<v Speaker 2>a lengthy response from Minister Rita Safioti about the Order's

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:10.279
<v Speaker 2>gen report into Project Blowouts. Yeah and coming if you want.

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:13.160
<v Speaker 2>N Ann Barclay's going to do the honors and self

0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 2>edit as she goes and try and make it understandable

0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:18.440
<v Speaker 2>for normal humhuman beings. Thank you, am Hi Bowie.

0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:19.800
<v Speaker 18>Oh look, I'll do my best.

0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:20.239
<v Speaker 19>So.

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<v Speaker 18>In response to the Order the General's Report, Minister Safioti

0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:26.840
<v Speaker 18>says the WA Government has strengthened its approach to IT

0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:32.160
<v Speaker 18>project delivery by implementing improved governance, guidance and oversight mechanisms.

0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:35.120
<v Speaker 18>The Office of Digital Government has issued a suite of

0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:39.280
<v Speaker 18>guidance materials and frameworks to support agencies in planning, delivering

0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:44.560
<v Speaker 18>and managing IT projects effectively. A new IT Modernization Framework

0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:48.040
<v Speaker 18>will be made available to agencies this week. This framework

0:47:48.080 --> 0:47:51.960
<v Speaker 18>will directly address issues identified in the Audit Guide, IT

0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:57.320
<v Speaker 18>modernization efforts and improve cost transparency. The Government and Treasury

0:47:57.360 --> 0:48:00.800
<v Speaker 18>have worked together on several reforms, including a staged funding

0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:03.720
<v Speaker 18>model for IT projects that enables better planning and cost

0:48:03.840 --> 0:48:09.000
<v Speaker 18>certainty prior to full funding decisions. So something's being brought

0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:13.160
<v Speaker 18>out this week, a new IT modernization framework. Not really

0:48:13.200 --> 0:48:14.360
<v Speaker 18>sure what that means.

0:48:15.000 --> 0:48:16.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure what a lot of what you just

0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:18.799
<v Speaker 2>said means, Anna, And I'm not having to go at

0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:21.600
<v Speaker 2>you because you're my colleague, but yeah, there's a bit

0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:24.799
<v Speaker 2>of bureaucratic speaking there, but thanks to the Minister's Office.

0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:26.640
<v Speaker 2>What did the Minister Offics say about Smart Writer?

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<v Speaker 18>So on Smart Writer Upgrade specifically, the cost of the

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:33.160
<v Speaker 18>Smart Writer Upgrade project remains at sixty point three million.

0:48:33.480 --> 0:48:37.040
<v Speaker 18>There are a number of potential add on options associated

0:48:37.120 --> 0:48:40.400
<v Speaker 18>with the program, however, there's been no formal decision on

0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:43.760
<v Speaker 18>whether these are actually required. The advice from the PTA

0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:47.160
<v Speaker 18>Public Transport Authority as of today is that new payment

0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:50.280
<v Speaker 18>options will be available by the end of the year.

0:48:51.000 --> 0:48:53.719
<v Speaker 18>As we understand, the Auditor General's reference to the timeline

0:48:53.760 --> 0:48:56.200
<v Speaker 18>may have related to an old business case undertaken in

0:48:56.239 --> 0:48:59.839
<v Speaker 18>twenty fifteen. The government first made an investment decision into

0:49:00.000 --> 0:49:02.720
<v Speaker 18>twenty seventeen, and at the time it marked a completion

0:49:02.840 --> 0:49:06.759
<v Speaker 18>date of twenty twenty one. Works were paused during can

0:49:06.800 --> 0:49:11.000
<v Speaker 18>you guess during COVID during the COVID pandemic, while global

0:49:11.040 --> 0:49:14.520
<v Speaker 18>IT hardware supply issues associated with the war in Ukraine

0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:17.320
<v Speaker 18>have also impacted the delivery of the project.

0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:19.000
<v Speaker 4>So seems like.

0:49:18.960 --> 0:49:21.799
<v Speaker 18>A pretty strong promise here that by the end of

0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:24.360
<v Speaker 18>the year we're going to see some new payment options available.

0:49:24.440 --> 0:49:24.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:49:24.840 --> 0:49:26.040
<v Speaker 18>Right, I'd love to be able to use tap and

0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:26.880
<v Speaker 18>go on the bus.

0:49:26.800 --> 0:49:28.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so would I. Yeah, yeah, so would I. I mean,

0:49:28.880 --> 0:49:30.520
<v Speaker 2>you can use it at the little terminal thing. But

0:49:31.360 --> 0:49:34.120
<v Speaker 2>been a long time coming, seventy eight months, and COVID's

0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:36.000
<v Speaker 2>been a factor, and apparently the war in Ukraine's been

0:49:36.040 --> 0:49:39.200
<v Speaker 2>a factor. Yes, as one of a couple of elistas said,

0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:41.000
<v Speaker 2>could we not just buy one from somewhere else? We'll

0:49:41.000 --> 0:49:43.040
<v Speaker 2>get one a shell from somewhere else.

0:49:43.400 --> 0:49:45.840
<v Speaker 18>I don't sometimes I don't know. I mean, I'm not

0:49:45.880 --> 0:49:48.760
<v Speaker 18>responsible for rolling out these big new projects, but sometimes

0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:51.319
<v Speaker 18>I think it can't be this hard. Surely there's an

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:56.560
<v Speaker 18>easier way, also, a smart riders recyclable the cards, because

0:49:56.600 --> 0:49:58.799
<v Speaker 18>if everyone in nearly everyone in WA's got a card,

0:49:58.800 --> 0:50:00.120
<v Speaker 18>what are we going to do with them all? You

0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:02.120
<v Speaker 18>know when we upgrade, So we have some sort of

0:50:02.160 --> 0:50:04.520
<v Speaker 18>party and throw them all on a bonfire third draw down.

0:50:04.760 --> 0:50:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Keep them in the third draw down, Yes, with their

0:50:06.520 --> 0:50:07.560
<v Speaker 2>elastic bands.

0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:10.320
<v Speaker 18>And the glue right the bits and Bob's draw.

0:50:10.800 --> 0:50:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Thank you an beautiful Anne Barclay from our production desk

0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:15.839
<v Speaker 2>that you can ring Anne or Sean to get through

0:50:15.880 --> 0:50:18.239
<v Speaker 2>to me today one double three eight eaty two. It

0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 2>is sixteen minutes past ten. Have vapes won the war?

0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:24.440
<v Speaker 2>On vapes forty nine yeses and four no's, and they

0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:26.279
<v Speaker 2>are all from Facebook. I'd love to hear from you.

0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Will speak to an expert on that in just a moment.

0:50:29.320 --> 0:50:31.799
<v Speaker 2>And another story we've got coming up. More and more

0:50:31.840 --> 0:50:35.719
<v Speaker 2>women are doing heavy lifting in the gym, doing weightlifting,

0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:38.400
<v Speaker 2>and there's been a little spike in as a result,

0:50:38.480 --> 0:50:41.279
<v Speaker 2>not purely because of that little spike in steroid juice

0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:45.040
<v Speaker 2>as well. We'll come back to that in just a moment.

0:50:45.080 --> 0:50:47.520
<v Speaker 2>I see, you know, I belong to that big chain

0:50:47.560 --> 0:50:49.360
<v Speaker 2>of gyms, the one with a big red and white

0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:54.000
<v Speaker 2>sime nine dollars sixty nine a week. Lots of women workout, workout,

0:50:54.000 --> 0:50:57.279
<v Speaker 2>and they're strong and they lift heavyweights. It's definitely a thing,

0:50:57.320 --> 0:50:59.040
<v Speaker 2>no doubt about it. One double three eight Atty two.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to get in touch with the call

0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:02.520
<v Speaker 2>of the day today, can win a double pass to

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<v Speaker 2>go and see the Terracotta Warrior display at buller bard

0:51:07.120 --> 0:51:09.480
<v Speaker 2>It at our Wa Museum from June the twenty eighth

0:51:09.560 --> 0:51:12.440
<v Speaker 2>right through the February. One of the world's great cultural

0:51:12.440 --> 0:51:15.880
<v Speaker 2>treasures will be on display at Bulevard It from June

0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:18.279
<v Speaker 2>right through the February of next year, and you can

0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:20.359
<v Speaker 2>win a double pass to go and see the Terra

0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Cotta Warriors from China here on the show. Give us

0:51:23.640 --> 0:51:27.520
<v Speaker 2>a call one double three eight eighty two. Thanks. Listening

0:51:27.560 --> 0:51:32.440
<v Speaker 2>in Jerry's phone in about the traffic infringement, can they Jerry?

0:51:33.280 --> 0:51:39.560
<v Speaker 3>You got Simon? Yeah, it's actually it's actually just silly infringements.

0:51:40.080 --> 0:51:43.359
<v Speaker 3>I got stuck going through a traffic light intersection. We're

0:51:43.360 --> 0:51:48.960
<v Speaker 3>going too slow. They were on armber and I went

0:51:49.000 --> 0:51:51.600
<v Speaker 3>through and then the top car pulled up behind me.

0:51:53.000 --> 0:51:54.560
<v Speaker 3>Did know at to stop? Your foreign? I said, no,

0:51:55.160 --> 0:51:57.480
<v Speaker 3>So you're going to slow through the intersection.

0:51:57.800 --> 0:51:58.400
<v Speaker 20>I said what it was?

0:51:58.440 --> 0:52:00.840
<v Speaker 3>Orange one? He said yeah, I would you had the

0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:03.600
<v Speaker 3>opportunity to stop? I said, well, well I've got a

0:52:03.640 --> 0:52:06.160
<v Speaker 3>van here full of equipment and machines and every now

0:52:06.239 --> 0:52:08.640
<v Speaker 3>so I said, well it'd be dangerous jam, wouldn't it.

0:52:08.640 --> 0:52:10.440
<v Speaker 3>So now there's a fine hundred and twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Well how long ago was there?

0:52:13.280 --> 0:52:15.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh that was about five years ago.

0:52:15.719 --> 0:52:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, let's see.

0:52:18.320 --> 0:52:20.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, apparently if you have the if you have the

0:52:20.280 --> 0:52:22.440
<v Speaker 3>opportunity to stop, you have to stop.

0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:22.719
<v Speaker 21>Yeah.

0:52:22.760 --> 0:52:25.640
<v Speaker 2>I've heard that. Yeah, I've been pined for that, and

0:52:25.680 --> 0:52:27.960
<v Speaker 2>it's a it's a judgment call of a copper right,

0:52:28.440 --> 0:52:30.600
<v Speaker 2>you should have you should have hit the brakes and

0:52:30.680 --> 0:52:32.800
<v Speaker 2>go who. I didn't thought i'd get through.

0:52:32.760 --> 0:52:34.759
<v Speaker 3>The fact that the fact that he asked me what

0:52:34.840 --> 0:52:37.120
<v Speaker 3>I stopped you for. You know, I knew that it

0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:39.239
<v Speaker 3>was a bit of a gray area. You know, I

0:52:39.280 --> 0:52:41.480
<v Speaker 3>think he just had a grumpy day.

0:52:42.040 --> 0:52:44.120
<v Speaker 2>It is an interpretation that I make no doubt about it.

0:52:44.160 --> 0:52:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Thanks Jerry. Always good to hear from me. Thank you, mate,

0:52:46.000 --> 0:52:48.160
<v Speaker 2>Ben s there's lots of women work out, but I

0:52:48.200 --> 0:52:53.640
<v Speaker 2>still can't work out women. Thanks Ben. And it's a talent.

0:52:53.680 --> 0:52:55.400
<v Speaker 2>The breath of fresh air put her on more often

0:52:55.600 --> 0:52:59.080
<v Speaker 2>so Smithy good presenting Anne. Thank you Smithy. She's a talent.

0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:01.520
<v Speaker 2>Former newsreader. I'm a reporter here at six PR and

0:53:01.560 --> 0:53:05.200
<v Speaker 2>now producer here on Perth Today. She's very good. But

0:53:05.280 --> 0:53:08.400
<v Speaker 2>she's leaving us because she's having a baby. And so

0:53:08.600 --> 0:53:10.520
<v Speaker 2>last day on Friday, we're going to miss it. One

0:53:10.560 --> 0:53:13.160
<v Speaker 2>double three a Daddy two. This one here from one

0:53:13.160 --> 0:53:16.000
<v Speaker 2>of our listens. Shouldn't Australia Post be charged for delivering vapes?

0:53:16.600 --> 0:53:18.879
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they do. Someone yeah, look, someone

0:53:18.960 --> 0:53:21.239
<v Speaker 2>might like to self confess there. How do he get

0:53:21.320 --> 0:53:23.520
<v Speaker 2>hold of vapes? From overseas. It because it does happen.

0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:26.719
<v Speaker 2>It happens online, right the Star Trek is it? You

0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:29.560
<v Speaker 2>know there's some dodgy system where you ring up and

0:53:30.120 --> 0:53:31.960
<v Speaker 2>some bloke comes around in a white van and drops

0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:34.160
<v Speaker 2>it off. How does the delivery part of it work?

0:53:35.040 --> 0:53:35.200
<v Speaker 22>One?

0:53:35.239 --> 0:53:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Double three adady two is the phone number. Are vapes

0:53:41.920 --> 0:53:44.719
<v Speaker 2>winning the war on vapes? We've been asking the question

0:53:44.760 --> 0:53:46.879
<v Speaker 2>this morning. Yes, the fifty one and the nose of four.

0:53:47.280 --> 0:53:51.320
<v Speaker 2>We've asked the police commissioner today about enforcement in retail

0:53:51.360 --> 0:53:53.600
<v Speaker 2>outlet it's convenience stores and he said that's nope, that's

0:53:53.640 --> 0:53:56.239
<v Speaker 2>not us, that's not my boys and girls, that's the

0:53:56.280 --> 0:53:59.920
<v Speaker 2>health department. Vapes winning the var on vapes. Becky Freeman

0:54:00.320 --> 0:54:03.360
<v Speaker 2>is Professor of public health at the University of Sidney

0:54:03.440 --> 0:54:05.319
<v Speaker 2>joins US now Professor Becky, How are you?

0:54:06.120 --> 0:54:07.520
<v Speaker 23>I'm good, Thank you, Thanks for having me.

0:54:07.840 --> 0:54:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Are vipes winning the War on vipespehi or yes or not?

0:54:11.920 --> 0:54:12.120
<v Speaker 24>Yeah?

0:54:12.239 --> 0:54:15.680
<v Speaker 23>Look, let's look at teenagers. They're the population we're most

0:54:15.680 --> 0:54:18.040
<v Speaker 23>worried about. We don't want young people taking up vaping.

0:54:18.560 --> 0:54:20.719
<v Speaker 23>And I run as a recalled generation vape and we

0:54:20.760 --> 0:54:23.080
<v Speaker 23>asked fourteen to seventeen year olds all across the country

0:54:23.080 --> 0:54:25.799
<v Speaker 23>if they've tried vaping, and I'm happy to report that

0:54:25.840 --> 0:54:28.040
<v Speaker 23>we appear to have hit peak vaping in this group.

0:54:28.360 --> 0:54:30.480
<v Speaker 23>So we know eighty five percent of them have never

0:54:30.520 --> 0:54:33.120
<v Speaker 23>tried a vape, and that's the highest number of never

0:54:33.200 --> 0:54:35.560
<v Speaker 23>vapors that we found since we've been conducting the study

0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:36.640
<v Speaker 23>since twenty twenty one.

0:54:36.840 --> 0:54:40.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, well that's good, good news.

0:54:40.360 --> 0:54:44.480
<v Speaker 23>I mean, it's not the whole story obviously, when I'm

0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:46.080
<v Speaker 23>sure your listeners can just go out and look in

0:54:46.080 --> 0:54:47.880
<v Speaker 23>their own neighborhoods and they can find to back in

0:54:47.920 --> 0:54:51.080
<v Speaker 23>this in particular, are still selling illegal vapes and you

0:54:51.120 --> 0:54:53.840
<v Speaker 23>don't need to be some secret operative or ordering them

0:54:53.880 --> 0:54:56.280
<v Speaker 23>from a dodgy retailer. You can just buy them outright

0:54:56.320 --> 0:54:59.080
<v Speaker 23>in public. So we do need better enforcement.

0:54:59.160 --> 0:55:01.680
<v Speaker 2>No doubt. So yeah, that was my next questions. That's

0:55:01.719 --> 0:55:04.400
<v Speaker 2>good if eighty five percent of that Cohl is saying no,

0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:07.279
<v Speaker 2>we've never tried it. But the people who have got

0:55:07.280 --> 0:55:08.839
<v Speaker 2>a bit of dough because they're not cheap, have got

0:55:08.880 --> 0:55:11.400
<v Speaker 2>a bit of dough maybe work fly and fly out.

0:55:11.800 --> 0:55:13.480
<v Speaker 2>I reckon they're viping a lot.

0:55:14.680 --> 0:55:16.960
<v Speaker 23>Look, I think when you look at the sort of

0:55:17.000 --> 0:55:19.320
<v Speaker 23>the next group up. We also survey eighteen to twenty

0:55:19.360 --> 0:55:22.080
<v Speaker 23>four year olds. We know that eighteen percent of them

0:55:22.160 --> 0:55:25.680
<v Speaker 23>so are vaping on a regular basis and they tell

0:55:25.719 --> 0:55:28.960
<v Speaker 23>us where they're accessing their vape and it's from retail outlets,

0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:31.920
<v Speaker 23>so they're just rocking up to a shop and purchasing these.

0:55:32.120 --> 0:55:34.360
<v Speaker 23>And remember this is despite the fact that if you

0:55:34.440 --> 0:55:38.279
<v Speaker 23>want to access a vape legally in Australia, you need

0:55:38.320 --> 0:55:39.960
<v Speaker 23>to go to a pharmacy to get it, and you

0:55:40.040 --> 0:55:44.359
<v Speaker 23>need to be over eighteen. And obviously that's not what's

0:55:44.360 --> 0:55:47.440
<v Speaker 23>happening to as much as we want it to be happening,

0:55:47.800 --> 0:55:50.719
<v Speaker 23>we want that you know, people who use these products

0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:53.839
<v Speaker 23>are you know, adults who have tried everything they can

0:55:53.880 --> 0:55:56.160
<v Speaker 23>to quit smoking and under the guidance of either a

0:55:56.160 --> 0:55:58.879
<v Speaker 23>health professional like a pharmacist or a doctor, are using

0:55:58.960 --> 0:56:01.720
<v Speaker 23>vapes to fully quit SPO And that's not what's happening.

0:56:01.920 --> 0:56:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, it's as I say, and it seems to

0:56:04.760 --> 0:56:06.719
<v Speaker 2>be getting away from us a bit bigging. Hence the

0:56:06.760 --> 0:56:11.160
<v Speaker 2>response from our listeners today. What are you are? You

0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:14.040
<v Speaker 2>work in the area of public health and public health policy.

0:56:14.120 --> 0:56:16.759
<v Speaker 2>Erin Dale who and our use a cloquial team that

0:56:16.840 --> 0:56:20.680
<v Speaker 2>she's the National Vapes Commissioner, she has another title. She

0:56:20.719 --> 0:56:23.240
<v Speaker 2>has a long history working with COVID in the public

0:56:23.239 --> 0:56:28.040
<v Speaker 2>and private sectors. She's not being renewed, she's not getting

0:56:28.040 --> 0:56:30.400
<v Speaker 2>the job full time. Do you make anything of that?

0:56:30.880 --> 0:56:31.759
<v Speaker 2>Are you aware of that?

0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:33.279
<v Speaker 25>Oh?

0:56:33.280 --> 0:56:35.520
<v Speaker 23>Look, I wouldn't want to comment on any individual and

0:56:35.760 --> 0:56:37.719
<v Speaker 23>their job when I don't have inside knowledge of that.

0:56:37.760 --> 0:56:40.440
<v Speaker 23>But I will say that I am pleased that both

0:56:40.520 --> 0:56:44.280
<v Speaker 23>you know, the federal and state governments are prioritizing enforcement,

0:56:44.400 --> 0:56:47.480
<v Speaker 23>but we do need better coordination. We don't need finger pointing.

0:56:47.520 --> 0:56:48.960
<v Speaker 23>We don't need the state saying oh, this is a

0:56:48.960 --> 0:56:50.880
<v Speaker 23>federal issue, in the federal government saying no, this is

0:56:50.920 --> 0:56:53.160
<v Speaker 23>a state issue, and the police saying no, this is

0:56:53.200 --> 0:56:55.880
<v Speaker 23>a health department issue. We actually need cooperation across the

0:56:55.920 --> 0:56:58.040
<v Speaker 23>board if we really want to make something happen in

0:56:58.040 --> 0:56:58.560
<v Speaker 23>this area.

0:56:58.680 --> 0:57:02.960
<v Speaker 2>So, Becky, either anecdotal or through data, through empirically, how

0:57:03.000 --> 0:57:05.279
<v Speaker 2>are the vipes, how are the vipes getting in from iboss?

0:57:06.600 --> 0:57:10.040
<v Speaker 23>Yeah, so we don't manufacture vapes in Australia at all.

0:57:10.480 --> 0:57:13.880
<v Speaker 23>They are all imported from overseas. And when we revised

0:57:13.880 --> 0:57:16.440
<v Speaker 23>our vaping laws in twenty twenty four, the first phase

0:57:16.440 --> 0:57:18.880
<v Speaker 23>of that was to ban the importation.

0:57:18.720 --> 0:57:20.000
<v Speaker 24>Of disposable vapes.

0:57:20.280 --> 0:57:21.840
<v Speaker 23>Those are the vapes that you know, you use them

0:57:21.880 --> 0:57:23.360
<v Speaker 23>up until they're gone, and then you check them out

0:57:23.400 --> 0:57:25.120
<v Speaker 23>and you buy a new one. And those are the

0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:27.160
<v Speaker 23>ones we know that young people were most attracted to.

0:57:27.520 --> 0:57:29.960
<v Speaker 23>They had flavors added to them. They're easy to take

0:57:29.960 --> 0:57:31.280
<v Speaker 23>it off the shelf and you can just use it.

0:57:31.320 --> 0:57:33.600
<v Speaker 23>You don't have to fiddle around with liquids and all

0:57:33.600 --> 0:57:36.760
<v Speaker 23>these kinds of things, right, and we saw importation of

0:57:36.800 --> 0:57:39.400
<v Speaker 23>those products as soon as the importation was banned was

0:57:39.440 --> 0:57:42.520
<v Speaker 23>brought in really decrease. But obviously some are still getting

0:57:42.560 --> 0:57:45.720
<v Speaker 23>through the border, that they are still being imported illegally.

0:57:45.920 --> 0:57:48.160
<v Speaker 23>And this is why I keep stressing this is an

0:57:48.160 --> 0:57:51.040
<v Speaker 23>importation issue which involves you know, border force in the

0:57:51.120 --> 0:57:55.040
<v Speaker 23>sense this is a retail issue which involves health departments.

0:57:55.320 --> 0:57:58.120
<v Speaker 23>It's a policing issue because there are also criminal elements

0:57:58.160 --> 0:58:00.680
<v Speaker 23>involved here. You need a whole government approach if we

0:58:00.720 --> 0:58:01.600
<v Speaker 23>actually want to do this.

0:58:01.680 --> 0:58:01.800
<v Speaker 3>Now.

0:58:01.840 --> 0:58:04.480
<v Speaker 23>Obviously I'm from the public health side of things, so

0:58:04.560 --> 0:58:06.680
<v Speaker 23>I really want to make sure that young people aren't

0:58:06.680 --> 0:58:08.640
<v Speaker 23>getting addicted to these products, that they're not going to

0:58:08.640 --> 0:58:11.000
<v Speaker 23>be set up for a lifetime of battling with you know,

0:58:11.240 --> 0:58:12.480
<v Speaker 23>being addicted to nicotine.

0:58:12.560 --> 0:58:16.240
<v Speaker 2>Yep, And well let me go to that again, either

0:58:16.240 --> 0:58:20.440
<v Speaker 2>anecdotally or empirically. Vipes A my friends say, viping is

0:58:20.440 --> 0:58:22.960
<v Speaker 2>addictive and I struggle to get off it. What's more addictive?

0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:27.040
<v Speaker 2>A sigi or a vite A despisable vite?

0:58:27.320 --> 0:58:29.480
<v Speaker 23>Yeah, well they both have nicotine in them, so they're

0:58:29.480 --> 0:58:34.320
<v Speaker 23>both addictive. Nicotine is we know, highly highly addictive, particularly

0:58:34.360 --> 0:58:37.680
<v Speaker 23>if you're exposed to it before your brain has fully developed.

0:58:37.680 --> 0:58:40.200
<v Speaker 23>And I'm sure we all realize that our brains don't

0:58:40.320 --> 0:58:42.880
<v Speaker 23>magically fully developed by age eighteen. It takes up to,

0:58:42.960 --> 0:58:45.240
<v Speaker 23>you know, age twenty four really until our brains have

0:58:45.320 --> 0:58:48.479
<v Speaker 23>done sort of growing and changing, and we don't want

0:58:48.640 --> 0:58:52.600
<v Speaker 23>those developing brains exposed to nicotine. It can completely rewire you.

0:58:52.800 --> 0:58:56.400
<v Speaker 23>So that we know that young people who are exposed

0:58:56.400 --> 0:59:01.000
<v Speaker 23>to nicotine have attention issues. We know that young people

0:59:01.080 --> 0:59:05.640
<v Speaker 23>often who vap report being increasingly anxious, because withdrawal from

0:59:05.680 --> 0:59:07.920
<v Speaker 23>nicotine can feel like anxiety. Right, You're like, oh, I

0:59:08.000 --> 0:59:11.120
<v Speaker 23>just don't feel right. I D you get that hit

0:59:11.200 --> 0:59:13.120
<v Speaker 23>of nicotine and all of a sudden you feel better,

0:59:13.240 --> 0:59:16.280
<v Speaker 23>not realizing that that's withdrawal from nicotine. That's what's making

0:59:16.280 --> 0:59:17.640
<v Speaker 23>you feel anxious in the first place.

0:59:17.720 --> 0:59:20.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure, yeah, all right, Hey Becky, thank you very

0:59:20.120 --> 0:59:22.080
<v Speaker 2>much for the chat. Really enjoyed it. Cheers.

0:59:22.520 --> 0:59:23.640
<v Speaker 23>Oh great, thanks for having me.

0:59:23.760 --> 0:59:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Becky Freeman, Professor of Public Health, University of Sydney. So yeah,

0:59:27.520 --> 0:59:29.640
<v Speaker 2>border force to stop it being imported. And I've never

0:59:29.680 --> 0:59:32.880
<v Speaker 2>thought of that. We don't probably should have. We don't

0:59:32.880 --> 0:59:36.040
<v Speaker 2>make him in Australia. We do not make vapes in Australia.

0:59:36.080 --> 0:59:39.720
<v Speaker 2>They are absolutely everywhere, aren't they, and we well, I

0:59:39.760 --> 0:59:41.920
<v Speaker 2>know where to buy them because some of my mates vape.

0:59:43.440 --> 0:59:46.720
<v Speaker 2>This is a lot of BS. Vaping is everywhere. Sign

0:59:47.040 --> 0:59:49.560
<v Speaker 2>Steve says, Can I, Steve, I get my vape in

0:59:49.600 --> 0:59:54.360
<v Speaker 2>liquid from Sydney, says Steve. Thank you, Steve. Cheers also

0:59:54.520 --> 0:59:58.000
<v Speaker 2>vape without the nicotine, Sam, Steve on your mate, cheers,

0:59:58.040 --> 0:59:58.600
<v Speaker 2>could I mark?

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<v Speaker 26>Okay, mate? I just went to an Asian country not

1:00:03.880 --> 1:00:06.320
<v Speaker 26>so long ago, and yeah, I got mine from there,

1:00:06.360 --> 1:00:10.200
<v Speaker 26>and I went by Singapore, got it through there. I

1:00:10.200 --> 1:00:11.840
<v Speaker 26>went through customers, got it through.

1:00:11.680 --> 1:00:16.080
<v Speaker 2>There, and no questions asked were you were you nervous? Nervous?

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<v Speaker 2>Were you're twitchy?

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<v Speaker 26>I was twitchy in regards to the juice. I get

1:00:22.200 --> 1:00:25.560
<v Speaker 26>that from England and that's that comes by Australia post

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<v Speaker 26>right from my door.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 25>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow? So is the those I know a disposable vopes? Mark?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know much about the other ones with the liquid?

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<v Speaker 2>How how long was that bit of kit last year?

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<v Speaker 13>For?

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<v Speaker 27>Well?

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<v Speaker 26>Mine's mine's not a disposable so I can refill mine?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and how long does that last? Was that?

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<v Speaker 14>That?

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<v Speaker 2>Forever? Is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 26>One pod? If you get I've got a few pods,

1:00:52.600 --> 1:00:56.120
<v Speaker 26>if you're connected to your faith, you'll get about four

1:00:56.200 --> 1:00:58.640
<v Speaker 26>or five thousand puffs out of it and it's probably

1:00:58.680 --> 1:00:59.840
<v Speaker 26>cost you five dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, all right mate, Thanks Mark, thanks for the insight.

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<v Speaker 2>So is that legal? And is that legal? Sure? Is

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<v Speaker 2>that legal? I don't know. I don't think it is that.

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<v Speaker 2>Matthew today, get up over here, going go well mate,

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<v Speaker 2>good mate.

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<v Speaker 28>Everyone turns the term war on drugs that's never worked.

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<v Speaker 28>The who are on bapes definitely hasn't worked either. I

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<v Speaker 28>don't understand why they don't dis legalize it and regulate

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<v Speaker 28>it and tax it and then it's safer for everyone else.

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<v Speaker 28>But by myself I've had to go back to smoking

1:01:38.720 --> 1:01:42.040
<v Speaker 28>cigarettes recently because I can't get bapes and I'm not

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<v Speaker 28>going to buy them illegally. I went to a GP

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<v Speaker 28>about a week and a half ago, trying to get

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<v Speaker 28>a prescription because apparently that's the way you have to

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<v Speaker 28>do it now, and the students said they can't do

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<v Speaker 28>it because they've been banned.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, Well, well, I was reading the health website

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<v Speaker 2>this morning, Maddie, and it says if you get a

1:02:01.440 --> 1:02:03.960
<v Speaker 2>prescription from your GP, you can get them from your farmer.

1:02:04.080 --> 1:02:07.480
<v Speaker 2>So I guess your your doctor thinks otherwise for some reason.

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<v Speaker 28>Well, she just said, no, I can't do that. They've

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<v Speaker 28>been banned.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's not true. Hey, yeah, I don't think that's right.

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<v Speaker 28>On the other lady, you just had on too where

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<v Speaker 28>she thought eighty of that first age bracket had never

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<v Speaker 28>never tried baby, I think eighty kids surveyed line.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm laughing with you because that did seem a little

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<v Speaker 2>on the high sides of me as well, Matthew, knowing

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<v Speaker 2>a few people in that age group. Yeah, cheers, mate,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, one, double three, eight eighty two. Have vapes

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<v Speaker 2>won the War on vapes? The Yes, the fifty seven

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<v Speaker 2>and the Nose of four. Thanks for listening him. We

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<v Speaker 2>are going to discuss this topic of the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>more women are working out and using weight heavyweights, bodybuilding,

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<v Speaker 2>if you will, getting strong, building up some muscle mass.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a it's a bigger thing. I'm going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about that on the program in just in the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for listening in. I'm Simon Bayman, plenty to come

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<v Speaker 2>here on Perth today.

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<v Speaker 8>Emergency works continue this morning in Mountain Rashon at Southwestern

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<v Speaker 8>Highway southbound at Third Road, the leftland closed. Western Power

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<v Speaker 8>are on site. Make sure you expect delays in the area.

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<v Speaker 8>Good news earlier breakdown in Hammersley Read Highway eastbound after

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<v Speaker 8>the Mitchell Freeway has been cleared.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Rob Beaver on Perth Traffic Leader six d are.

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<v Speaker 2>Steve's got back to us. So. Steve has sent us

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<v Speaker 2>a few semss about vapes and Steve reckons we do

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<v Speaker 2>make them in Australia. We do make vapes. Steve send

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<v Speaker 2>us some more information made. I have been told by

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<v Speaker 2>the university professor that we don't. It's not something I

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<v Speaker 2>ever thought about. I do understand some of them coming

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<v Speaker 2>from overseas, Peter says today, Simon, I'm pretty sure vapes

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<v Speaker 2>contain heavy metals and arthur and other arthur, other cartinogenic elements,

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't think that they're safer than cigarettes, and

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<v Speaker 2>that on cause health issue is pretty ridiculous. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's a safe option. Cheers, Pete, Thank you very much. Mate.

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<v Speaker 2>One double three eighty two is the phone number today?

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<v Speaker 2>Have vapes won the war on vapes? Yes, are fifty

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<v Speaker 2>seven and the nose of four. Paul says, so strange

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<v Speaker 2>this topic signment it is, Paul. It is got a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of layers, isn't it. Mate. Some years ago on

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<v Speaker 2>this very station, we heard an interview with the Philip

1:04:24.320 --> 1:04:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Morris representative introducing Sherbert Flavor vape as the price of

1:04:28.760 --> 1:04:32.040
<v Speaker 2>cigarettes got more expensive, in undated by callse to your

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<v Speaker 2>show saying it's tageting kids and in their powers to

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<v Speaker 2>be about it to happen. I'm not a smoker or

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<v Speaker 2>a vapor Time we suck it up and net the

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<v Speaker 2>government deal with what they turned a blind eye at.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a people power problem for mine, This is Paul,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks mate. Well, people find a way, don't they, mate,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's that's certainly what's happening, and our listeners agree

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<v Speaker 2>that vapes are winning the war on vapes. It's it's

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<v Speaker 2>like they've they won the war months ago and none

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<v Speaker 2>of us realized. I think, mate, a number of women

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<v Speaker 2>are taking bodybuilding and a small proportion, or be in

1:05:04.640 --> 1:05:09.560
<v Speaker 2>an increasing proportion, they're also dabbling in illegal steroids. Doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Tim Piatowski is with a School of Applied Psychology at

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<v Speaker 2>Griffith UNI. Joins me. Now todate Tim hey Bowie. Yeah, really,

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<v Speaker 2>well thanks. I go to a chain gym here in Perth.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of them and there are more, certainly

1:05:24.520 --> 1:05:27.800
<v Speaker 2>more and more women lifting heavier weights and building body maps.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no doubt about it. So there is an uptick,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't there?

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<v Speaker 22>There isn't. I mean, we have data to show from

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<v Speaker 22>the latest systematic review that I published with some colleagues

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<v Speaker 22>last year. It's up at four percent prevalence globally, but

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<v Speaker 22>among bodybuilders, when we every bodybuilder, it's sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Point so quite Yeah. Yeah, what you know, we know,

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<v Speaker 2>we know blokes take steroids, you know, not everyone is

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<v Speaker 2>it is a minority. Still, what effect can anabolic steri

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<v Speaker 2>roid have on a female body? Is it just the same?

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<v Speaker 22>No, it's very different actually in that I guess throughout

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<v Speaker 22>the most furious one and that's permanent infertility. I mean,

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<v Speaker 22>now that can happen in men as well, but I

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<v Speaker 22>think for women it's actually, you know, for men, there's

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<v Speaker 22>a few things you can do in terms of increasing

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<v Speaker 22>sperms out and things like that.

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<v Speaker 6>For women.

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<v Speaker 22>Very very much a potential consequence that can happen at

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<v Speaker 22>any time, and so obviously there's other ones. You know,

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<v Speaker 22>hair loss from the head, hair game on the face

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<v Speaker 22>and body voice changes I think for women is a

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<v Speaker 22>big one, lilteral growth acne, and you know, of course

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<v Speaker 22>I think we could get to mention all the other

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<v Speaker 22>benefits in the strength and performance and all those other

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<v Speaker 22>types of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I mean other side effects which are probably

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<v Speaker 2>certainly less serious than permanent infertility, to in so mania, moodswings,

1:07:08.240 --> 1:07:12.600
<v Speaker 2>depression effects the menstrual cycle, and a reduction in breast size,

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<v Speaker 2>which are obviously less serious. But do you think I

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<v Speaker 2>guess there is a question the same with blokes. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess people weigh up the risk and saying no, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to look amazing and be strong as and go

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<v Speaker 2>into competitions or whatever they want to do and they

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<v Speaker 2>ignore or the potential side effects.

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<v Speaker 22>I think there's some degree. You know, people, what I guess,

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<v Speaker 22>what my programs of research try and do is to

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<v Speaker 22>assist people in making well informed decisions about their use,

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<v Speaker 22>so knowing these risks and knowing that they're possible, and

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<v Speaker 22>then making a decision from that point. But you're right

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<v Speaker 22>to some people that actually don't have that information, and

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<v Speaker 22>particularly for women, we know that the steroid literacy he

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<v Speaker 22>is generally speaking lower, and so they're not making new

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<v Speaker 22>decisions from a place of you know, a well and

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<v Speaker 22>well informed confront.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, yeah, all right, but again the unintended consequences

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<v Speaker 2>can be incredibly harmful. Yes, yeah, bottom line. Yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>Hey you Tim, good to talk to you. Keep up

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<v Speaker 2>the good work. Thank you for the chat, Thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>having met Dr Tim Piertowski from Griffith's UNI. Sorry we've

1:08:27.200 --> 1:08:29.799
<v Speaker 2>gone to unit researchers in a row there. This is

1:08:29.840 --> 1:08:33.640
<v Speaker 2>a separate but not unrelated issue. So more and more

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<v Speaker 2>women are bodybuilding, and more and more women are using

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<v Speaker 2>antabolic steroids. It's a worldwide trend. I see lots of

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<v Speaker 2>girls in the gym that I go to who are

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<v Speaker 2>very strong, very fit, very dedicated, work very hard, look

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<v Speaker 2>after themselves. You know they've got personal trainers or they

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<v Speaker 2>just know their way around the gym. It's definitely a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Lots more lots more people exercising, aren't there. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I walking going to the gym. Heaps of people doing

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<v Speaker 2>yoga and plarties. It's definitely a good thing if it's

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<v Speaker 2>done wisely, and you see a lot of it. Nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>minutes to eleven. Thanks listening in Wonderble three eight eighty

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<v Speaker 2>two is the phone number. A little bit later on

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<v Speaker 2>in the show, you would have heard Milsey and Carl

1:09:15.800 --> 1:09:18.800
<v Speaker 2>and Peter Ford talking about a remake of that very

1:09:18.840 --> 1:09:21.640
<v Speaker 2>famous ac DC video long Way to the Top on

1:09:21.680 --> 1:09:24.240
<v Speaker 2>the back of the Flatbeg truck with Bond Scott with

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<v Speaker 2>the bagpipes. It was made by Countdown, made on Swanson Street.

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<v Speaker 2>I think in Melbourne. We're going to talk about that

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit later on the program as well. The

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<v Speaker 2>great we just got on film clips back in the

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<v Speaker 2>day in Countdown days. Then they became video clips around

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<v Speaker 2>the MTV sort of era around there. So happy to

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<v Speaker 2>have a chat about that a little bit later on

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<v Speaker 2>in the program. Wonderuble three eight eighty two. Have vapes

1:09:48.920 --> 1:09:51.080
<v Speaker 2>won the War on vapes? Fifty nine yeses and four nos.

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<v Speaker 2>Back In a moment dancing on the ceiling, Tony says,

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<v Speaker 2>my wife is definitely doing more heavy lifting at the

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<v Speaker 2>gym these days. He used to be primarily cardio and

1:09:58.200 --> 1:10:00.800
<v Speaker 2>now a lot of deadlifts, squats, et cetera. Real conundrums.

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<v Speaker 2>She looks great, but I live in constant fear of

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<v Speaker 2>her challenging me to an armrestle. Tony, You'll be all right, mate,

1:10:06.479 --> 1:10:11.759
<v Speaker 2>do your very best. How can vapors think putting fluid

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<v Speaker 2>into your lungs is a good thing? My son vapes,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm very worried about long term effects, says Mary.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone says a lot of delis in armadoald so vapes

1:10:20.600 --> 1:10:23.280
<v Speaker 2>and legal tobacco can get a pouts with thirty bucks.

1:10:23.920 --> 1:10:28.200
<v Speaker 2>I know we can get stuff as well. It's yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's quite quite common knowledge. I would have thought him

1:10:31.640 --> 1:10:34.960
<v Speaker 2>for old fellas like me. Rob says, as an ex

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<v Speaker 2>personal trainer who twenty eight clients are started to see

1:10:37.840 --> 1:10:39.840
<v Speaker 2>the shift in the way people trained, especially women, as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as Instagram and Facebook took off, and unfortunately the

1:10:42.680 --> 1:10:44.400
<v Speaker 2>moment see a lot of videos of young ladies putting

1:10:44.439 --> 1:10:47.320
<v Speaker 2>the workout videos online and as we know, not everyone

1:10:47.439 --> 1:10:50.120
<v Speaker 2>is confident with their bodies, and we'll see alternatives to

1:10:50.160 --> 1:10:53.160
<v Speaker 2>improve it. Yeah, Rob, that's the thing too, filming yourself

1:10:53.160 --> 1:10:56.720
<v Speaker 2>in the gym, no doubt. Yes, No, have vapes won

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<v Speaker 2>the war on vapes? The yeses are fifty fifty nine

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<v Speaker 2>of the nose of four. Have you seen changes in

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<v Speaker 2>the way people exercise? I'd love to hear from you today.

1:11:06.600 --> 1:11:08.600
<v Speaker 2>One of our listeners is classic distraction. Let's have a

1:11:08.600 --> 1:11:11.160
<v Speaker 2>crack at vaping when there's probably ten bigger issues in society.

1:11:11.520 --> 1:11:14.639
<v Speaker 2>It's that anonymous correspondent. We try and go as many

1:11:14.680 --> 1:11:17.080
<v Speaker 2>issues as we can each and every day. Probably do

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<v Speaker 2>what have we got four hours? Probably do twelve stories

1:11:20.080 --> 1:11:23.479
<v Speaker 2>a day, mate, if we can at least wonderble three

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<v Speaker 2>eight eighty two. If you'd like to get in touch

1:11:26.240 --> 1:11:30.559
<v Speaker 2>with us today. I have you heard about the police

1:11:30.560 --> 1:11:33.599
<v Speaker 2>cells of the stadium, So I've known about them for

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<v Speaker 2>a while, and I do remember when the stadium was

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<v Speaker 2>built the police were at the time. We're having a

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<v Speaker 2>fee bit of our antisocial activity, behavior lawlessness out at

1:11:42.760 --> 1:11:45.880
<v Speaker 2>the birds Would train station. Now that's since calm down

1:11:45.880 --> 1:11:49.400
<v Speaker 2>a fair bit. So they thought, great, we can have

1:11:49.439 --> 1:11:51.600
<v Speaker 2>a cop shop at the stadium and it's close to

1:11:51.640 --> 1:11:53.960
<v Speaker 2>the birds would train station. All well and good as

1:11:54.000 --> 1:11:57.760
<v Speaker 2>that behavior has improved and that situation has improved, the

1:11:58.320 --> 1:12:00.600
<v Speaker 2>cop shop and the cells are now only used on

1:12:00.680 --> 1:12:04.040
<v Speaker 2>game day. And you would have heard you would have

1:12:04.080 --> 1:12:05.680
<v Speaker 2>heard Corle say this morning to us there's been a

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<v Speaker 2>hundred people through those cells since since twenty eighteen. I reckon,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a fair bit, Kyle reckons. You know, what do

1:12:13.000 --> 1:12:16.360
<v Speaker 2>you get thirty forty fifty thousand on average to every

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<v Speaker 2>Optis game? And if there's only one going through the

1:12:19.520 --> 1:12:21.439
<v Speaker 2>cells every couple of weeks, it's not a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So and Kyle is always looking for, you know, to

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<v Speaker 2>a compliment that community on their behavior, which is fine.

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<v Speaker 2>One double three A eighty two is the is the

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<v Speaker 2>phone number. Jake Patrick, our news director, is with us.

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<v Speaker 2>He joins me at the desk. You've been to the

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<v Speaker 2>Premiers press conference this morning.

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<v Speaker 29>Jake, Yes, good morning, Simon. Two more sleeps until state budget. Yes,

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<v Speaker 29>you're pumped, very I'm very pumped, very pumped. It's one

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<v Speaker 29>more sleep until state of origin, two more sleeps until

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<v Speaker 29>the Dockers host Hessanton off to stadium twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Five million more sleeps until West Coast Winter flag. Correct,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to win a flag this year.

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<v Speaker 30>I would have thought so.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Yeah, I'm getting ahead of yourself there. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to think in your own Conningwood Bathwater,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to think who beats us by.

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<v Speaker 30>No, Brisbane are frauds.

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<v Speaker 29>And it was case in point on the weekend losing

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<v Speaker 29>at home to GWS who don't have half their blokes.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it's just he kicks seven, didn't he. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>all right like that.

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<v Speaker 29>Yeah, anyway, I've been saying to all your Brisbane of

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<v Speaker 29>frauds premiership hangover.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's fine.

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<v Speaker 29>They're the running premier. They're entitled to and before it's

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<v Speaker 29>a year after. Let's get back on here. At the

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<v Speaker 29>press conference this morning, Premier Cook, Yeah, Premier Cook, a

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<v Speaker 29>couple of health ministers, so the Minister for Health Meredith

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<v Speaker 29>Hammett and the Minister for Health Infrastructure John Carey. This

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<v Speaker 29>is a project that was slated before the pandemic. It's

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<v Speaker 29>an upgrade to junl Up Hospital. So the K Block

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<v Speaker 29>is a new block that's been built up there in

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<v Speaker 29>the northern Suburbs at jundle Up Health Campus.

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<v Speaker 30>There's a couple of flaws.

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<v Speaker 29>In that block that remain empty, still need fitted out,

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<v Speaker 29>so there's going to be some money in the budget

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<v Speaker 29>on Thursday to fit those rooms out. So it's looking

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<v Speaker 29>like another sixty beds will be added to that facility.

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<v Speaker 29>So that's a good result for a health system that's

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<v Speaker 29>been on its knees for a few years now. So

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<v Speaker 29>that's the latest pre budget announcement from the state government,

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<v Speaker 29>twenty four million dollars in the budget to enable more

1:14:32.200 --> 1:14:36.760
<v Speaker 29>public patients to access care at that facility. So Roger

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<v Speaker 29>Cook was out there this morning with his two health

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<v Speaker 29>ministers and their various portfolios. So it'll be yeah, I

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<v Speaker 29>used to live up in the Northern Suburbs.

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<v Speaker 30>I've been to the hospital before.

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<v Speaker 1>But.

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<v Speaker 29>There isn't one around there for a few kilometers. So

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<v Speaker 29>interesting to hear from the listeners whether you know what

1:14:56.600 --> 1:14:59.120
<v Speaker 29>sort of issues or if they're happy with the state

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<v Speaker 29>of care up in the norse Than suburbs. So it

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<v Speaker 29>looks like they'll be getting some more beds or some

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<v Speaker 29>funding for some more beds in the budget which will

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<v Speaker 29>be handed down on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Jake, While you're here. You have been to

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<v Speaker 2>many press conferences about Metronet.

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<v Speaker 30>Yes, I have.

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<v Speaker 2>You actually inadvertently souvenir a Metronet jacket the other week,

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<v Speaker 2>but you had to give it back.

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<v Speaker 30>Yeah, they called me, but you Yeah, they called me

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<v Speaker 30>and asked.

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<v Speaker 2>For it back because I mentioned on a So what

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<v Speaker 2>I want to ask you the C class trains? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>is there? You've been on trains a lot and you

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<v Speaker 2>follow up with interest, Is there less leg room? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you think I.

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<v Speaker 29>Haven't tuned into Because Simon you might know this about me,

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<v Speaker 29>I'm a pretty generous bloke. I don't tend to sit

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<v Speaker 29>on trains very often. I like to give my set

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<v Speaker 29>up for people that might need it more so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's very nice.

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<v Speaker 29>I haven't really tuned into the leg room factor on

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<v Speaker 29>either train. I know on the what it would it be?

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<v Speaker 29>The B class train, the not so new ones, the

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<v Speaker 29>middle I guess there's not a lot of leg room

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<v Speaker 29>on those.

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<v Speaker 30>So I've seen this story bubbling.

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<v Speaker 29>Whether there's less leg room on the C class trains,

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<v Speaker 29>I don't know, but if there is, that would be

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<v Speaker 29>pretty uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's have a listen to Premier Cook spoke about

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<v Speaker 2>the C series trains at the press conference, have a listen.

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<v Speaker 31>Well, look, I don't have obviously specific details in relation

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<v Speaker 31>to the driver training or the rollout of the trains,

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<v Speaker 31>other than to say that part of the rollout means

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<v Speaker 31>that we continue to learn, and this was part of

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<v Speaker 31>the introduction of the B series as well. You control

1:16:26.600 --> 1:16:29.000
<v Speaker 31>these things, but once you get into real time and

1:16:29.040 --> 1:16:32.040
<v Speaker 31>actually on the job, that's when you really learn about

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<v Speaker 31>all the nooks and crannies and the idiosyncrasies of the

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<v Speaker 31>trains and you can continue to refine the model. No,

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<v Speaker 31>not at all, and look, I think we need to

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<v Speaker 31>be careful about the language we use in relation to this.

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<v Speaker 31>This is a rollout of a new C series train

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<v Speaker 31>made in WA and it's an important part of the

1:16:53.840 --> 1:16:57.960
<v Speaker 31>evolution of our public transport system. It is safe and

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<v Speaker 31>we continue to learn as we great these new C

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<v Speaker 31>series models trains into our overall fleet. Well, as I've said,

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<v Speaker 31>we have not received any advice that there's issues in

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<v Speaker 31>relation to safety, but obviously we do take the driver's

1:17:11.400 --> 1:17:14.040
<v Speaker 31>view seriously, which is the reason why we're continuing to

1:17:14.120 --> 1:17:18.800
<v Speaker 31>modify the air conditioning arrangements in the cabin and while

1:17:18.800 --> 1:17:21.880
<v Speaker 31>we're trialing new seats to see if that meets the

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<v Speaker 31>needs of the drivers.

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<v Speaker 2>So something's happened here. So Dylan Capeorn has the story

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<v Speaker 2>page eleven of the West Today. Good Adel, and I

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<v Speaker 2>reckon you are listening. Train drivers have slamed the locally

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<v Speaker 2>made Sea Series railcars, and yet when Breakfast and As

1:17:34.880 --> 1:17:36.840
<v Speaker 2>have tried to get hold of the union, they've got

1:17:36.880 --> 1:17:39.360
<v Speaker 2>nothing to see here. Public commentary is not going to

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<v Speaker 2>help the issue. So it seems like they're on the

1:17:41.840 --> 1:17:44.880
<v Speaker 2>front foot. They had held a survey, but the rail

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<v Speaker 2>train and bus union have scarped on this one. I've

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<v Speaker 2>gone to ground, Jakie.

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<v Speaker 29>I'm a firm believer of the saying where there's smoke,

1:17:52.360 --> 1:17:54.720
<v Speaker 29>there is fire. I think that can apply to a

1:17:54.760 --> 1:17:56.799
<v Speaker 29>lot of things, and I think it applies to this. However,

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<v Speaker 29>it is quite simply bizarre that nobody wants to go

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<v Speaker 29>I want to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when they're in, they're quoted in the paper. Cheers, mate,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you Jake, thanks for bringing us up to date.

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<v Speaker 30>You're very welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, ate, Jake Patrick from and news me in

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<v Speaker 2>fact and news director. Gooday, Lizzie, how are you going good?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you? You're a you're like going on the gym.

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<v Speaker 13>Do you absolutely. I'm a self confessed jym junkie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, lifting heavier weights, stretching, combination. What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, I'm a bit of a I can class myself

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<v Speaker 13>as a bit of a hybrid queen. So I do lifting, running,

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<v Speaker 13>pretty much, any sport, optical course, racing, heavyweights, yeah, hit

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<v Speaker 13>training everything.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, good on you. Feeling good, looking good.

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<v Speaker 13>Feeling good, looking good. Maintain my fitness journey throughout both

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<v Speaker 13>of my pregnancies. So definitely copped a lot of flats

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<v Speaker 13>from the oldies. And you shouldn't be lifting when you're pregnant.

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<v Speaker 13>But hey, yeah, nothing bad happened there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so what's give me a figure? What can you

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<v Speaker 2>ben Can you do bench press?

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 13>I can bench I'm currently benching.

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<v Speaker 16>Sixty but that's good.

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<v Speaker 20>I will be.

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<v Speaker 13>Working up to sixty five eventually. How many just so

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<v Speaker 13>one rap that's my one rep max currently, So that's good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 13>not too bad. I'm not a professional weightlifter, but when

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<v Speaker 13>you try and mix in running and marathons and things,

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<v Speaker 13>you can't maintain the you know, the bulk strength as well.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, A good bit of core strength and a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of all around strength. Good on you, Lisa, that's unreal.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you agree with me that more and more women

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<v Speaker 2>are lifting one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 13>I've definitely noticed the change in the last you know, say,

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<v Speaker 13>I've been gimming since I was sixteen, so what that

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<v Speaker 13>will thirteen? I don't know how idly I'm thirty three.

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<v Speaker 13>You can do the math. I've been doing a long

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<v Speaker 13>time and I've definitely noticed. I used to be the

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<v Speaker 13>only girl in the big boy weight section as we

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<v Speaker 13>call it, and now it's predominantly a lot of women,

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<v Speaker 13>which is great to see.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're at a public gym, a local government Jim

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<v Speaker 2>marn't you.

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<v Speaker 19>Yeah, I'm at a.

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<v Speaker 13>Levels in the gym, so a big mix of age

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<v Speaker 13>and variety of people go there. But I'm definitely seeing

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<v Speaker 13>more girls, especially on the squad rack.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. Good to talk to you, Lizzie. Keep out the

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<v Speaker 2>good work, look after yourself.

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<v Speaker 13>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Lizzy, thirty three year old young mum who is lifting

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<v Speaker 2>heavyweights and she's seeing more and more of it. That's

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<v Speaker 2>she's from the Craigie Legters Center Gym, which is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the bigger local government gyms. Around the bigger Leger

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<v Speaker 2>Center gym, there's a massive gym Craigi. Good on your Lizzie.

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<v Speaker 2>Really nice to hear from your phone. Lines are open

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<v Speaker 2>one double three eight eighty two, three and a half

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<v Speaker 2>minutes to eleven. Love to hear from you. Michael Keaton's

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<v Speaker 2>legal name is Michael Douglas. He had to change it

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<v Speaker 2>because of Michael Douglas. Going to ask the question after

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<v Speaker 2>eleven o'clock today, have you changed your name or do

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<v Speaker 2>you know someone who's changed their name not for marriage,

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<v Speaker 2>change your name for some reason. It's eleven o'clock.

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<v Speaker 1>Now on Perth six PR. This is Perth Today with

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<v Speaker 1>Simon Beaumont.

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<v Speaker 32>Bang As.

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<v Speaker 2>The yes no question today, which will take through until

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<v Speaker 2>one o'clock today, is very one sided, which we weren't

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<v Speaker 2>expecting expecting you have vapes won the War on vapes.

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<v Speaker 2>Sixty six yeses and four no's. We're talking about it

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<v Speaker 2>this morning. Given the Federal Vapes Commissioner Aaron Dale is

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be reappointed in her positions. He's only

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<v Speaker 2>interim acting. That's why we're talking about today. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>new bit in the story. So we're asking that question.

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<v Speaker 2>And look a lot of our listeners have said, we

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<v Speaker 2>know where to buy there's no enforcement. Police Commissioner Cole

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<v Speaker 2>Blanche said, we're not enforcing it. It's not our job

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<v Speaker 2>to see if you know, the vape shop in x

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<v Speaker 2>y Zed Street he's selling vapes illegally. That's not our job.

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<v Speaker 2>That's for the health department. And I don't see any

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<v Speaker 2>just I don't know who at the Health Department walks

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<v Speaker 2>around in a uniform with a sniffer dog and goes

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<v Speaker 2>into these places. I genuinely don't know. And I've been

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<v Speaker 2>around my mates when they've bought vapes heaps of times

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<v Speaker 2>and it's easy. It's easy peasy, and they recognize you

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<v Speaker 2>when you come. Mick in l O again. You want

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<v Speaker 2>this one again? Yet? David us the question today? Have

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<v Speaker 2>you ever changed your name? Or do you excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know someone who's changed their name for a reason?

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<v Speaker 2>Devo says, Hi Si, I've never changed my name, but

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<v Speaker 2>that hasn't stoped a few of my mates calling me

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<v Speaker 2>by a different name. And yes to your question of

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<v Speaker 2>the day, I'll put you down as a yes. Meil

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<v Speaker 2>Maka thank you. Aileen Simon, You, like many of us,

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<v Speaker 2>are a bit filthy at the woefully inadequate performance of

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<v Speaker 2>West Coast over the last three years, over the last

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<v Speaker 2>few years, three and a half Aleen. Just think how

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<v Speaker 2>awful and to moralize it must be for the newer,

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<v Speaker 2>younger players who do put in effort, I always seem

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<v Speaker 2>to lose and never experience a good times. That don't

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<v Speaker 2>envy them, Thanks Aleen. I mentioned it yesterday on the

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<v Speaker 2>show that I've you know, And there wasn't a great weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Rabbit has lost, Australia lost at cricket, East Perth lost,

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<v Speaker 2>West Coast loss, memou Le didn't make the cut in

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<v Speaker 2>the US Open, so it wasn't a great weekend for

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<v Speaker 2>me personally. But you know, life goes on, Aileen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all has it all been a little bit ordinary,

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't it? Three and a half years is a long

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<v Speaker 2>time to not see any hope. Do you know someone

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<v Speaker 2>who has changed their name one double three eighty two?

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Keaton. Michael Keaton is a Hollywood blockbuster star, isn't

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<v Speaker 2>he? He was in Birdman? I think he was in He's

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<v Speaker 2>been in some rom comms. Michael Keaton. I'll look the

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<v Speaker 2>list up, but Michael Keaton very very well known actor.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, his real name is Michael Douglas, but he

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't be Michael Douglas because of Michael Douglas. So the

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<v Speaker 2>Hollywood Actors Union only allows one person to work under

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<v Speaker 2>particularly the name at the time, and Michael Douglas Kirk

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<v Speaker 2>Douglas's little boy, he got to keep his So Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Keaton changed his name and he picked up his new

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<v Speaker 2>name out of the phone book. Michael Keaton, Michael Keaton,

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<v Speaker 2>Have you changed your name? And why? One double three

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<v Speaker 2>eight eighty two. This one here from Grumpy JB. Hi JB.

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<v Speaker 2>Biggest news is the Iran Israel war. No coverage on

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<v Speaker 2>here on six pr ands, I missed it. JB. Is

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<v Speaker 2>in the news, mate, It's in just about every news bulletin.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the reason Donald Trump is leaving. The G seven

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<v Speaker 2>Summit is in the news, mate. So there's so much

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<v Speaker 2>of it to cover for a show like Hours to

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<v Speaker 2>print story to TV story, primarily because of the imagery,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, it is. It is our news wonderble three

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<v Speaker 2>eight eight two. Hello Carol.

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<v Speaker 27>Simon, how are you very well?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thanks for asking.

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<v Speaker 33>I'll tell you a funny story about a name change.

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<v Speaker 33>My daughter, her name is Jennifer Louise, and when she

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<v Speaker 33>went and got a diver's license. I mean we're talking

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<v Speaker 33>here fifteen years ago. They transposed the spelling and it

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<v Speaker 33>came up as Jennifer Lowsey and so we didn't know.

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<v Speaker 20>Justph thought.

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<v Speaker 33>We got home and we phoned them up and she said, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 33>you're going to have to come in and pay for

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<v Speaker 33>a name change. And we said, well no, look, this

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<v Speaker 33>was your mistake. And they kept insisting that we pay

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<v Speaker 33>for this name change, and we finally said no, that

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<v Speaker 33>they'll you know, all right, then we'll do it for free.

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<v Speaker 33>And they said you have to bring your births to

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<v Speaker 33>beginning and we said, hang in a minute, you took

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<v Speaker 33>a copy of a verse and forget when you did it.

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<v Speaker 33>So big fight anyway, So they finally changed. But the

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<v Speaker 33>problem is that she now has an alias. Whenever she

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<v Speaker 33>does a police check or anything, she has to put

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<v Speaker 33>in that she is Jennifer Louise, also known as Jennifer Lousei.

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<v Speaker 33>So because there's no way to delete office system once

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<v Speaker 33>you're there, she is also Jennifer Lousi.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a bit funny, sad, it's a bit sad,

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<v Speaker 2>it is a bit funny. Thanks Carol. Jennifer LOUSI, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why. Reminded me of the story yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>the blokeo park for three weeks and the Hillaries car park,

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<v Speaker 2>and the car park was rebitchamized, rehash folded so the

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<v Speaker 2>ashfader around his car put in the line markings. The

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<v Speaker 2>car park was rebitchamized by the Department of Transport Marine Division.

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<v Speaker 2>How could the Department of Transport Marinevision not talk to

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<v Speaker 2>the Department of Transport Land Division and say, can you

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<v Speaker 2>find out who owns this car and we'll give him

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<v Speaker 2>a call? How did that not happen? One double three

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<v Speaker 2>eighty two love to hear from you today on have

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<v Speaker 2>you ever changed your name? One double three at two

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<v Speaker 2>is the is the phone number if you'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>cause have you changed your name? Peter says. If the

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<v Speaker 2>police aren't going to police, the vapor shops and miners

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<v Speaker 2>will open one up, Yes, Peter, that he can sell,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, convenience sort of stuff as well in newspapers

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<v Speaker 2>and lollies everything. One double three A two ivan says

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<v Speaker 2>Premier Cook said the Wa trains are made in w

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<v Speaker 2>A true or false ivan? They are assembled in w A.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe they are assembled in w a the parts

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<v Speaker 2>come from elsewhere. And I do remember Paul Murray doing

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<v Speaker 2>a double paide spread in Saturday's West probably three months

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<v Speaker 2>ago about this issue about it's being claimed as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>w A jobs and w A this and w A that,

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<v Speaker 2>But there is some question there are some question marks

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<v Speaker 2>about where the staff are from and where the parts

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<v Speaker 2>are from. Ivan one, double three two. Have you changed

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<v Speaker 2>your name or do you know someone who's changed their name?

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<v Speaker 2>Murray says, our family had a tradition at the first

1:27:08.160 --> 1:27:10.720
<v Speaker 2>born Mayle's name the same as their father, and my

1:27:10.840 --> 1:27:12.920
<v Speaker 2>nephew was born, my brother decided to swap the first

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<v Speaker 2>and middle names around. When my nephew termed twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>he changed his name back, so it's the same as

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<v Speaker 2>granddad and great granddad, it says Murray. Thanks Murray. How

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<v Speaker 2>much does it cost to change your name these days? Muz,

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<v Speaker 2>it used to be one hundred and seventy five dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Used to be called deed pol didn't it. What's it

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<v Speaker 2>called now? If you want to change your name. Robbie Beaver,

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<v Speaker 2>now traffic man, said Michael J. Fox had the same issue.

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<v Speaker 2>He was Michael A. Fox, but the Canadian actors killed

1:27:36.840 --> 1:27:39.800
<v Speaker 2>forced him to change his name, and one of our

1:27:39.800 --> 1:27:42.599
<v Speaker 2>listeners couldn't come on air reported about half a dozen

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<v Speaker 2>half a dozen police cars marked and unmarked flying along

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<v Speaker 2>Great Easton Highway from Redcliffe towards Midland. Believe there's a

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<v Speaker 2>b shuit going on thanks to that caller. Not too

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<v Speaker 2>many weeks go by. Well, we don't have a police

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<v Speaker 2>chase in the in the city. I changed my name

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<v Speaker 2>to Juan Powerball, says Jan Powerball. Rockey, I can't, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't read that out Roco. It's a family show. Thanks mate,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for listening, appreciate it. We'll take a break. It's

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen and a half minutes past eleven. I'm Simon Beymont.

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<v Speaker 2>Johnny Manager says, when I got married, my wife's maiden

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<v Speaker 2>name changed from butt b U double T to ball

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<v Speaker 2>b A double L. It's just not cricket, Johnny Manager,

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<v Speaker 2>Good John. And then fifty seven years ago, next week,

1:28:24.200 --> 1:28:27.759
<v Speaker 2>fifty seven years married, John Bold to your mate, World

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<v Speaker 2>done wonderble three eight two. Troy from Collige ad a

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<v Speaker 2>Troy Gary Hocking from Geelong changed his name to Whiskers

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<v Speaker 2>for a promo for the cat food he did. Mate,

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<v Speaker 2>that's completely fine and that did happen, Seawan says, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>cole Blanche all be a little concerned about the vape

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<v Speaker 2>shops when they start fire bombing each other like in

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<v Speaker 2>the Eastern States, as a large number of the vape

1:28:46.520 --> 1:28:50.320
<v Speaker 2>shops also celelegal tobacco. Sean, hasn't happened to you yet, thankfully.

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<v Speaker 2>I always get a general sense that these convenience stores

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<v Speaker 2>are not organized crime oriented, if that makes sense, Sean.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't look at or feel like at their sort

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<v Speaker 2>of mum and dad family businesses. I could be wrong,

1:29:05.479 --> 1:29:08.360
<v Speaker 2>could be wrong. When this money involved and illegal money involved,

1:29:08.640 --> 1:29:11.280
<v Speaker 2>these things can happen. Have vapes won the War on vapes?

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<v Speaker 2>The yeses are seventy one and the nose of four.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to do a story now that's appeared in

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<v Speaker 2>Wa today about the lifespan a vessel called the Nangara.

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<v Speaker 2>The Nangara one signed by Woodside, but it disappeared and

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<v Speaker 2>turned into a ghost ship for six years. And it

1:29:26.520 --> 1:29:30.920
<v Speaker 2>raises the question what happens with big industrial vessels when

1:29:30.920 --> 1:29:33.840
<v Speaker 2>they are decommissioned, Where do they go? Where can they

1:29:33.880 --> 1:29:36.200
<v Speaker 2>be decommissioned? And is there a better way of doing it?

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<v Speaker 2>And more is a spokesperson with the Maritime Union of

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<v Speaker 2>Australia joins us. Now good ay, Ange, Yeah, hi there,

1:29:42.200 --> 1:29:43.840
<v Speaker 2>how are I Yeah, good to talk to you. So

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<v Speaker 2>tell us about this particular one, the Woodside vessel, the Nangara.

1:29:47.920 --> 1:29:49.040
<v Speaker 2>What happened to it? Where did it go?

1:29:50.439 --> 1:29:50.679
<v Speaker 34>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 19>Look, the name Gara, it's pretty symbolic actually of a

1:29:55.120 --> 1:30:00.080
<v Speaker 19>larger problem that's going on off the coast of Australia.

1:30:00.160 --> 1:30:03.600
<v Speaker 19>So the name Gara. It finished up its job for

1:30:03.640 --> 1:30:07.360
<v Speaker 19>Woodside in twenty eighteen, and so once it was disconnected

1:30:07.360 --> 1:30:10.280
<v Speaker 19>from the oil field, you know, the oil field was

1:30:10.320 --> 1:30:14.120
<v Speaker 19>finished up, it was retired. So the vessel sailed off

1:30:14.160 --> 1:30:17.479
<v Speaker 19>oil was toad actually over to Malaysia and it's sat

1:30:17.520 --> 1:30:22.360
<v Speaker 19>there at anchor ever since, untouched basically, you know, deteriorating

1:30:22.520 --> 1:30:24.639
<v Speaker 19>and just rotting in Malaysia there.

1:30:24.840 --> 1:30:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and what did it do when it was a

1:30:26.960 --> 1:30:28.559
<v Speaker 2>working vessel?

1:30:28.880 --> 1:30:34.000
<v Speaker 19>Yeah, so it was an FPSO or a floating production platform,

1:30:34.120 --> 1:30:37.240
<v Speaker 19>So it was you know, we draw up the resource

1:30:37.360 --> 1:30:42.160
<v Speaker 19>from under the seabed and then process it and exupport it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So it's a sorry Angel said, two hundred and

1:30:45.439 --> 1:30:47.760
<v Speaker 2>seventy meters long. It's a massive bit of kit can

1:30:47.800 --> 1:30:50.880
<v Speaker 2>store nine hundred thousand barrels of oil. So it went

1:30:50.920 --> 1:30:51.400
<v Speaker 2>to Malaysia.

1:30:51.439 --> 1:30:56.760
<v Speaker 19>Then what happened, Well, it's been sitting there idle. It's

1:30:57.120 --> 1:30:59.400
<v Speaker 19>out of mind, out of sight, I guess, you know,

1:30:59.600 --> 1:31:02.800
<v Speaker 19>over the and we just we see that as a

1:31:02.880 --> 1:31:06.120
<v Speaker 19>bit of a cop out basically from dream companies who

1:31:06.240 --> 1:31:09.559
<v Speaker 19>have You know, I've made some pretty nice profits over

1:31:09.560 --> 1:31:12.080
<v Speaker 19>here in Australia, and now when it comes time to

1:31:12.160 --> 1:31:16.599
<v Speaker 19>decommission these assets or you know, they're actually liabilities, they're

1:31:16.640 --> 1:31:20.240
<v Speaker 19>they're just sending them away to be you know, I

1:31:20.280 --> 1:31:21.439
<v Speaker 19>guess someone else's problem.

1:31:21.960 --> 1:31:24.080
<v Speaker 2>So and you know, we covered stories here on the

1:31:24.120 --> 1:31:26.760
<v Speaker 2>show before our boats get dumped in the Swan River,

1:31:26.880 --> 1:31:29.679
<v Speaker 2>they get dumped in little marinas. People just walk away

1:31:29.720 --> 1:31:32.240
<v Speaker 2>them because they can't afford them, can't afford the insurance.

1:31:32.320 --> 1:31:35.320
<v Speaker 2>The upkeep is that are you sort of suggesting that's

1:31:35.320 --> 1:31:38.240
<v Speaker 2>the same with these big multinationals. They're shipping their big

1:31:38.320 --> 1:31:40.400
<v Speaker 2>bits of kid awakes. They don't want to pay form anymore.

1:31:41.160 --> 1:31:42.680
<v Speaker 20>Look, it certainly seems that way.

1:31:43.640 --> 1:31:46.720
<v Speaker 19>So there's a pattern emerging, and that there's a whole

1:31:46.760 --> 1:31:49.599
<v Speaker 19>bunch of reasons for it. You know that these companies

1:31:49.640 --> 1:31:52.120
<v Speaker 19>don't have to pay any bonds or you know, financial

1:31:52.200 --> 1:31:56.839
<v Speaker 19>assurances when they start up an offshore project. So essentially

1:31:56.880 --> 1:31:59.320
<v Speaker 19>when it comes time to clean up their mess like

1:31:59.439 --> 1:32:03.519
<v Speaker 19>as there obliged to do, they don't particularly want to.

1:32:03.560 --> 1:32:07.080
<v Speaker 19>They don't want to fork out. But anyway, we actually

1:32:07.160 --> 1:32:09.879
<v Speaker 19>have capacity here in Australia. We've got a skilled workforce,

1:32:10.280 --> 1:32:13.920
<v Speaker 19>you know, very ready to do the work. And so

1:32:14.080 --> 1:32:16.240
<v Speaker 19>what we need is a little bit of a stronger

1:32:16.320 --> 1:32:18.960
<v Speaker 19>hand by the regulator and also a bit of.

1:32:19.080 --> 1:32:20.000
<v Speaker 20>Political will.

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<v Speaker 2>So to recycle them or to better decommission them in

1:32:25.040 --> 1:32:27.479
<v Speaker 2>Australian waters, whatso they can be used again or someone

1:32:27.520 --> 1:32:29.599
<v Speaker 2>else can use the assets somehow.

1:32:30.640 --> 1:32:33.800
<v Speaker 19>Yeah, look, if they can be refurbished and used somewhere else,

1:32:33.840 --> 1:32:36.960
<v Speaker 19>you know, that's fantastic, that's probably a good thing to do.

1:32:37.960 --> 1:32:41.400
<v Speaker 19>But what we see time and time again is as

1:32:41.520 --> 1:32:44.880
<v Speaker 19>it's been deliberately run down. Of course, they know that

1:32:44.960 --> 1:32:48.000
<v Speaker 19>they're going to be decommissioned one day, and so they

1:32:48.040 --> 1:32:50.120
<v Speaker 19>don't pay the money on the maintenance and the upkeep

1:32:50.479 --> 1:32:52.920
<v Speaker 19>of these things. You know, our members can attest to this,

1:32:53.760 --> 1:32:56.280
<v Speaker 19>and so there's some pretty surely practices going on just

1:32:56.360 --> 1:33:00.840
<v Speaker 19>to save a buck, and that's at the cost of safety. Also,

1:33:00.960 --> 1:33:05.519
<v Speaker 19>it's not just these large hulking tankers, it's all of

1:33:05.600 --> 1:33:09.080
<v Speaker 19>the platforms out there. There's you know, over sixty sixed

1:33:09.120 --> 1:33:12.920
<v Speaker 19>platforms that need to you know eventually once the resource

1:33:12.960 --> 1:33:15.840
<v Speaker 19>has been extracted and needs to be cleaned up. Just

1:33:16.080 --> 1:33:17.519
<v Speaker 19>the companies know this, but they're not.

1:33:17.560 --> 1:33:18.160
<v Speaker 24>Ready to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Sure, talking to and Moore, a spokesporus from the

1:33:21.400 --> 1:33:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Maritime Union of Australia and just on the Nangara going

1:33:26.600 --> 1:33:29.400
<v Speaker 2>off Malaysia there it would appear that where it was

1:33:29.439 --> 1:33:32.599
<v Speaker 2>anchored it's an ise and off Brunei, there were dozens

1:33:32.640 --> 1:33:35.040
<v Speaker 2>of ships there. So this is this is the go

1:33:35.200 --> 1:33:35.840
<v Speaker 2>to spot, is it?

1:33:37.160 --> 1:33:40.560
<v Speaker 19>It really is? I mean it's obviously a matter for

1:33:40.800 --> 1:33:44.439
<v Speaker 19>the Malaysian government to regulate that space, but it does

1:33:44.600 --> 1:33:48.200
<v Speaker 19>seem to be a little bit more lax than other jurisdictions.

1:33:48.960 --> 1:33:52.920
<v Speaker 19>And so yeah, we do see things being dumped their

1:33:53.040 --> 1:33:56.120
<v Speaker 19>ghost ships. As you said, yeah, all right, it's a

1:33:56.160 --> 1:33:57.160
<v Speaker 19>pretty shoddy practice.

1:33:57.680 --> 1:33:57.840
<v Speaker 6>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>In the article of the whday R called Madeline King,

1:34:02.720 --> 1:34:06.080
<v Speaker 2>the Minister, the Resources Minister has has weighed into the

1:34:06.160 --> 1:34:09.519
<v Speaker 2>procurement process is ongoing. You're confident that there'll be some

1:34:09.640 --> 1:34:10.439
<v Speaker 2>political will here.

1:34:12.680 --> 1:34:16.120
<v Speaker 19>Look I really hope. So, you know, that's all of

1:34:16.400 --> 1:34:19.400
<v Speaker 19>the rhetoric that's been coming from the federal government. It's

1:34:19.439 --> 1:34:22.519
<v Speaker 19>been very very strong, you know, around actually kicking off

1:34:22.560 --> 1:34:26.720
<v Speaker 19>this dehinising industry in Australia. They say that all they've

1:34:26.800 --> 1:34:31.840
<v Speaker 19>estimated around sixty billion dollars of benefit that can be Actually,

1:34:32.560 --> 1:34:35.759
<v Speaker 19>you know, we stand to see that here in Australia.

1:34:36.280 --> 1:34:39.840
<v Speaker 19>We don't want to see it in Malaysia or even

1:34:40.360 --> 1:34:43.960
<v Speaker 19>to Norway where some of the assets seem to be going.

1:34:44.800 --> 1:34:48.040
<v Speaker 19>So look, I would I really hope that Minister King

1:34:48.560 --> 1:34:53.559
<v Speaker 19>does you know, intervene where the regulator has has let

1:34:53.640 --> 1:34:54.000
<v Speaker 19>us down.

1:34:54.760 --> 1:34:57.200
<v Speaker 2>So I'm getting a bit of correspondence in here Ange

1:34:57.240 --> 1:34:59.160
<v Speaker 2>on our text line and cause of phoning in. I

1:34:59.160 --> 1:35:02.200
<v Speaker 2>think Dateline might have covered a story about ships being

1:35:02.280 --> 1:35:04.960
<v Speaker 2>chopped up in and off Bangladesh. Have you heard about

1:35:05.000 --> 1:35:06.160
<v Speaker 2>that part of it as well?

1:35:06.360 --> 1:35:11.679
<v Speaker 19>Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So there's an international treaty that's about

1:35:11.680 --> 1:35:14.639
<v Speaker 19>to come into force called the Hong Kong Convention. It's

1:35:14.680 --> 1:35:18.320
<v Speaker 19>around the safe recycling of ships, and it's an attempt

1:35:18.439 --> 1:35:22.840
<v Speaker 19>by the international community to head off the depths and

1:35:23.479 --> 1:35:27.560
<v Speaker 19>the injuries that keep happening in sites like Bangladesh. So

1:35:28.439 --> 1:35:32.280
<v Speaker 19>hopefully Australia will actually be a signatory to that because

1:35:32.520 --> 1:35:36.560
<v Speaker 19>as of yet we're not. And you know what that

1:35:36.720 --> 1:35:41.880
<v Speaker 19>requires is a hazardous inventory of a ship and for

1:35:42.080 --> 1:35:47.000
<v Speaker 19>the receiving dismantling place to be able to handle all

1:35:47.040 --> 1:35:49.200
<v Speaker 19>of the hazards on there. And so we're looking at

1:35:49.280 --> 1:35:53.840
<v Speaker 19>things like naturally occurring radioactive material that's on board these

1:35:53.920 --> 1:35:56.880
<v Speaker 19>vessels and on the rigs, on the platforms as well.

1:35:57.920 --> 1:36:01.680
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it's a bit of a head downside to

1:36:02.840 --> 1:36:05.000
<v Speaker 2>to you know, this massive industry we have up north,

1:36:05.080 --> 1:36:06.720
<v Speaker 2>isn't it when you know these vessels have to go

1:36:06.800 --> 1:36:09.280
<v Speaker 2>somewhere and they are expensive, so could they be better

1:36:09.280 --> 1:36:11.840
<v Speaker 2>decommissioned in Australia? And thanks for your time, good chat.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Yeah, thank you. By and Moore a spokesperson

1:36:15.640 --> 1:36:19.120
<v Speaker 2>from the m u A, the Maritime Union of Australia. Interesting, hey,

1:36:19.320 --> 1:36:22.160
<v Speaker 2>so that's a WA Today story. That's a Nangara owned

1:36:22.200 --> 1:36:24.320
<v Speaker 2>one signed by Woodside disappeared for six years and it

1:36:24.360 --> 1:36:28.799
<v Speaker 2>was angeredoff an island of Bahrain sort of in Malaysian

1:36:28.840 --> 1:36:31.080
<v Speaker 2>waters from what we can understand. Thanks for listening in

1:36:31.160 --> 1:36:33.360
<v Speaker 2>it's twenty six minutes past eleven. Love to hear from

1:36:33.400 --> 1:36:36.320
<v Speaker 2>you today. Thanks for your correspondence. Just a reminder, we

1:36:36.720 --> 1:36:39.280
<v Speaker 2>are a talk back station. We'd love to hear from you.

1:36:40.760 --> 1:36:41.960
<v Speaker 2>One of our listeners says, there are a lot of

1:36:42.000 --> 1:36:44.880
<v Speaker 2>police cars in Forest Chase across the road from the

1:36:45.120 --> 1:36:49.200
<v Speaker 2>railway station at the moment. Thank you. I worked for

1:36:49.400 --> 1:36:51.120
<v Speaker 2>Murray says, I worked for a retailer who had a

1:36:51.200 --> 1:36:55.360
<v Speaker 2>vape shop next door. We have had several unsavory encounters

1:36:55.400 --> 1:36:58.040
<v Speaker 2>with the owner's threats of violence, abuse, standover type behavior.

1:36:58.040 --> 1:37:01.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry to hear that, Murray. Maybe the little vape shops,

1:37:01.479 --> 1:37:05.760
<v Speaker 2>corner vape shops. I stand outside mom my mates going

1:37:05.760 --> 1:37:07.880
<v Speaker 2>to buy a vape. They don't seem like that. They

1:37:07.920 --> 1:37:10.880
<v Speaker 2>seem like mums and dads and sons working in there.

1:37:11.560 --> 1:37:15.200
<v Speaker 2>I hope you're okay there, muzz cheers mate. Rick says Simon.

1:37:15.240 --> 1:37:18.360
<v Speaker 2>Didn't you recently change your name to Shane? I did, Rick,

1:37:18.600 --> 1:37:20.760
<v Speaker 2>not of my own choosing. I think someone else chose

1:37:20.800 --> 1:37:24.680
<v Speaker 2>to do that. Thank you for remembering. Have vapes won

1:37:25.040 --> 1:37:28.600
<v Speaker 2>the vapes? Have vapes won the war on vapes? The

1:37:28.720 --> 1:37:30.599
<v Speaker 2>yes is seventy six and the noseer for a lot

1:37:30.640 --> 1:37:33.840
<v Speaker 2>of our listeners, Reckon it's over. The war may have

1:37:34.080 --> 1:37:36.240
<v Speaker 2>been fought and one months and months ago we just

1:37:36.240 --> 1:37:38.639
<v Speaker 2>didn't realize. Do you live in a colder sack? There's

1:37:38.640 --> 1:37:40.840
<v Speaker 2>a story in the Horizons magazines today in the rac

1:37:41.200 --> 1:37:43.879
<v Speaker 2>there are about a thousand colder sacks in Western Australia,

1:37:43.920 --> 1:37:47.240
<v Speaker 2>in suburban Perth and in fact in some parts of

1:37:47.960 --> 1:37:50.120
<v Speaker 2>country Wa. South headn I think has got a heap

1:37:50.160 --> 1:37:52.360
<v Speaker 2>of colder sacks from memory. Do you live in a

1:37:52.439 --> 1:37:54.560
<v Speaker 2>colder sack? What's it like? Because we're seeing less of

1:37:54.600 --> 1:37:57.280
<v Speaker 2>them being built for varying reasons. Do you live in

1:37:57.320 --> 1:38:01.519
<v Speaker 2>a colder sack? Hilton Park's got them, south Headland's got them.

1:38:02.720 --> 1:38:05.040
<v Speaker 2>I think maybe places like Stratton. I've got a lot

1:38:05.080 --> 1:38:08.639
<v Speaker 2>of colder sacks as well, having driven into Stratton once

1:38:08.800 --> 1:38:12.280
<v Speaker 2>by mistake and then couldn't find my way back out Stratton,

1:38:13.760 --> 1:38:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Hilton Park, South Headland, cold of sack central. Do you

1:38:17.880 --> 1:38:19.400
<v Speaker 2>live in a colder sack? Is it any good?

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<v Speaker 8>Twenty eight minutes past eleven back in a moment good

1:38:31.840 --> 1:38:34.320
<v Speaker 8>news earlier as a bri Mitchell southbound Karen I brought in.

1:38:34.400 --> 1:38:37.599
<v Speaker 8>Sterling has been cleared. We are still dealing with those

1:38:37.680 --> 1:38:41.519
<v Speaker 8>emergency works in Mount raschon those Southwestern Highway southbound at

1:38:41.560 --> 1:38:44.880
<v Speaker 8>Third Road, the left lane remains closed. Western Power on site.

1:38:44.960 --> 1:38:47.720
<v Speaker 8>Make sure you plan had to avoid any delays. I'm

1:38:47.800 --> 1:38:50.280
<v Speaker 8>Rob d verrom Peruzz Traffic Leader six PR.

1:38:52.360 --> 1:38:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah so rac Horizons magazine have estimated this probably one

1:38:55.680 --> 1:38:58.800
<v Speaker 2>thousand cold de sacs through Western Australia. Do you live

1:38:58.840 --> 1:39:01.280
<v Speaker 2>in one or you lived in one? Zeno?

1:39:01.400 --> 1:39:05.720
<v Speaker 35>Gooday, Hey Simon, Yeah, we lived in a coulder sack

1:39:05.800 --> 1:39:07.160
<v Speaker 35>for about three years.

1:39:07.760 --> 1:39:09.920
<v Speaker 34>While we're building our new home.

1:39:11.120 --> 1:39:14.200
<v Speaker 35>It was quiet street. You get a lot of drivers

1:39:14.800 --> 1:39:21.519
<v Speaker 35>that are lost. Our coulder sac ended against the Tonguin

1:39:21.640 --> 1:39:24.439
<v Speaker 35>Highway in on Walter Road.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yep, yep, yeah yeah, any good mate, Any

1:39:30.040 --> 1:39:33.000
<v Speaker 2>good living there? Little little parties and stuff.

1:39:34.360 --> 1:39:37.519
<v Speaker 35>Yeah yeah, it was good parties close to Charlie's Charlie's

1:39:37.520 --> 1:39:38.000
<v Speaker 35>food mark.

1:39:38.479 --> 1:39:39.360
<v Speaker 26>It was pretty handy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, all right. Good to hear from your made.

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<v Speaker 2>Colder sacks are great for neighborhood street parties, is Debbie,

1:39:45.800 --> 1:39:49.519
<v Speaker 2>especially around Christmas time? Thanks Debbie. Yeah, my live grew

1:39:49.560 --> 1:39:52.840
<v Speaker 2>up in a colder sack house I think one, two, three, four,

1:39:52.960 --> 1:39:56.320
<v Speaker 2>five six houses and they used to end that this

1:39:56.439 --> 1:39:58.720
<v Speaker 2>street in a really share of boar. So all the

1:39:58.800 --> 1:40:01.679
<v Speaker 2>people in the street put in for a boar balls

1:40:01.720 --> 1:40:03.880
<v Speaker 2>at the top house and everyone gets two hours of

1:40:03.920 --> 1:40:06.639
<v Speaker 2>bore wader every day. I think that's legal. One double

1:40:06.680 --> 1:40:10.120
<v Speaker 2>three ay two. We're building less cold de sacks, apparently

1:40:12.200 --> 1:40:16.439
<v Speaker 2>this one here from Lyle Hi Lyle, I live in

1:40:16.479 --> 1:40:19.320
<v Speaker 2>a colder sack off a cold de sack heroin close

1:40:19.360 --> 1:40:21.559
<v Speaker 2>in Balajura. So we love it so quiet, so much

1:40:21.600 --> 1:40:23.200
<v Speaker 2>more usable space out in the front of the house.

1:40:24.000 --> 1:40:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Cheers Lyle. Thank you mate, good to hear from you.

1:40:25.720 --> 1:40:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Gary says David Bowie changed his name as there was

1:40:28.760 --> 1:40:31.519
<v Speaker 2>a David Jones in the Monkeys. There was Gary Davy

1:40:31.640 --> 1:40:35.280
<v Speaker 2>Jones and David Bowie's name was David David Bow's name.

1:40:35.280 --> 1:40:38.599
<v Speaker 2>What's David Jones? One double three add two Jeff. Yes,

1:40:38.640 --> 1:40:40.920
<v Speaker 2>it's great and better within one kilometer of the bay.

1:40:41.560 --> 1:40:43.760
<v Speaker 2>I think that's Jeff from Safety Bay. Yeah, there's a

1:40:43.760 --> 1:40:46.639
<v Speaker 2>few down in Rocking Hand. Mate, isn't there my word, yes,

1:40:47.080 --> 1:40:49.479
<v Speaker 2>my word, yes. I live in a cold sack in Sterling.

1:40:49.800 --> 1:40:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Total of two houses. Mine and the neighbor. Don't think

1:40:53.360 --> 1:40:55.400
<v Speaker 2>ever move. It's the best, says way.

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<v Speaker 15>No.

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<v Speaker 2>One double three heighty two is the is the phone

1:41:00.439 --> 1:41:01.719
<v Speaker 2>number if you want to give us a call today.

1:41:01.800 --> 1:41:04.600
<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk to a planning institute Fella in

1:41:04.920 --> 1:41:07.160
<v Speaker 2>just a moment. So colder sacks are being let use

1:41:07.240 --> 1:41:10.519
<v Speaker 2>less and less by town planners. Let's do this, max

1:41:11.120 --> 1:41:12.240
<v Speaker 2>on pers six PR.

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<v Speaker 1>The stock market reports.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, he Claire joins us from Sure and Partners. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you even a colder sacoe?

1:41:19.040 --> 1:41:22.559
<v Speaker 32>I do, Simon, and I love it. Not a lot

1:41:22.600 --> 1:41:27.160
<v Speaker 32>of passing traffic. And all the neighbors are very close friends.

1:41:27.320 --> 1:41:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's nice. Nice man like you and you'd make

1:41:30.040 --> 1:41:35.920
<v Speaker 2>friends easily. That sounds good. Thanks, You're welcome. No problems

1:41:36.520 --> 1:41:38.759
<v Speaker 2>CSL having your drug approved for sale.

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<v Speaker 34>Yes.

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<v Speaker 32>CSL are the largest Australian healthcare company and they've come

1:41:42.680 --> 1:41:45.000
<v Speaker 32>up with a new drug to treat a pretty rare

1:41:45.080 --> 1:41:50.880
<v Speaker 32>genetic condition that triggers uncontrolled and random swelling in people's bodies.

1:41:51.240 --> 1:41:55.439
<v Speaker 32>Fortunately it only occurs in about one in fifty thousand people.

1:41:56.200 --> 1:41:58.920
<v Speaker 32>The new drug treatment has already been approved for sale

1:41:58.960 --> 1:42:02.719
<v Speaker 32>in Australia, Europe, in Japan, but now today the US

1:42:02.840 --> 1:42:05.720
<v Speaker 32>Food and Drug Administration has said it's okay to sell

1:42:05.760 --> 1:42:08.639
<v Speaker 32>in the US. So CSL will launch the new drug

1:42:08.800 --> 1:42:13.280
<v Speaker 32>called and debris there immediately. Cslhares haven't had an overly

1:42:13.360 --> 1:42:15.960
<v Speaker 32>positive reaction to the news. They're actually down by eighty cents,

1:42:16.000 --> 1:42:19.000
<v Speaker 32>trading at two hundred and thirty eight dollars thirty. The

1:42:19.040 --> 1:42:23.799
<v Speaker 32>Australian rail company Horizon we yesterday awarded contracts by BHP

1:42:24.040 --> 1:42:28.040
<v Speaker 32>to handle all of their rail transport for BHP's Australian

1:42:28.120 --> 1:42:30.880
<v Speaker 32>copper operations, and that is estimated to be worth one

1:42:30.960 --> 1:42:33.800
<v Speaker 32>point five billion dollars in revenue to arise in over

1:42:33.800 --> 1:42:37.080
<v Speaker 32>the next ten years. Horizon shares are only slightly stronger today,

1:42:37.120 --> 1:42:40.240
<v Speaker 32>they're trading at three dollars eleven and BHP and Rio

1:42:40.360 --> 1:42:44.000
<v Speaker 32>Tinto have had some positive news themselves. They're jointly trying

1:42:44.040 --> 1:42:47.280
<v Speaker 32>to develop a massive underground copper mine in Arizona in

1:42:47.360 --> 1:42:52.120
<v Speaker 32>the US called Resolution Copper. They received their environmental approvals

1:42:52.400 --> 1:42:55.519
<v Speaker 32>in the first term of Donald Trump, but that was

1:42:55.640 --> 1:42:59.320
<v Speaker 32>rescinded by the Biden administration and now they've got their

1:42:59.400 --> 1:43:03.360
<v Speaker 32>approvals again. But it's estimated that any potential mining is

1:43:03.400 --> 1:43:06.599
<v Speaker 32>still ten years away, and the discovery was first made

1:43:06.680 --> 1:43:09.240
<v Speaker 32>back in nineteen ninety five, so these things do take

1:43:09.320 --> 1:43:10.240
<v Speaker 32>a very long time.

1:43:10.120 --> 1:43:10.559
<v Speaker 34>To get up.

1:43:10.800 --> 1:43:13.880
<v Speaker 32>BHP shares today are down by thirty Centsury Ore Tinto

1:43:14.000 --> 1:43:16.760
<v Speaker 32>are steady at one hundred and seven dollars ten and

1:43:16.880 --> 1:43:19.479
<v Speaker 32>the Treasurer, Jim Chalmers has made his first public comments

1:43:19.479 --> 1:43:25.479
<v Speaker 32>about yesterday's takeover bid four Santos. He hadn't really added much.

1:43:25.680 --> 1:43:27.640
<v Speaker 32>He said that this has got a long way to

1:43:27.720 --> 1:43:30.080
<v Speaker 32>run yet, and he will be waiting for the advice

1:43:30.240 --> 1:43:33.200
<v Speaker 32>of the Foreign Investment Review Board. The share market remains

1:43:33.280 --> 1:43:36.840
<v Speaker 32>very skeptical that the takeover will succeed. Santos shares are

1:43:36.920 --> 1:43:40.439
<v Speaker 32>basically steady at seven dollars seventy five, which is still

1:43:40.479 --> 1:43:43.680
<v Speaker 32>a dollar fourteen below the potential takeover price of eight

1:43:43.760 --> 1:43:46.560
<v Speaker 32>dollars eighty nine a share. In the boarder market, it

1:43:46.640 --> 1:43:48.800
<v Speaker 32>looks to be marking time today. We're all waiting to

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<v Speaker 32>see if the US gets involved with some sort of

1:43:51.280 --> 1:43:54.080
<v Speaker 32>military action against Iran. The all odds is down by

1:43:54.120 --> 1:43:56.800
<v Speaker 32>four points. We're at eighty seven hundred and seventy.

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<v Speaker 2>Sermon, eight seven and eight seven seventy.

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<v Speaker 34>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome. Thanks o eat cheers, mate, have a good day.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to you tomorrow. Thanks so oh clear from Shore

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<v Speaker 2>and Partners Martin. You live in a colder sack or

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<v Speaker 2>on a colder sack, yes, yes, simmon idea, Yeah, whereabout

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<v Speaker 2>mate there in Kingsley? Yeah? Nice?

1:44:19.840 --> 1:44:22.800
<v Speaker 7>And I think Kingsley must be coulder sack Central.

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<v Speaker 2>Got a few of them.

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<v Speaker 36>We seem to have a lot of them up here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And do you live on a colder sack or

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<v Speaker 2>in one?

1:44:31.680 --> 1:44:32.000
<v Speaker 34>In one?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I reckon you live in one, don't you? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 37>Yeah, been in there forty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Get on well with the neighbors, mate, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>And the great thing is there's only three or four

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<v Speaker 7>to get to know because we're a very.

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<v Speaker 12>Small colder sack.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah nice mate, Thank you mate, thank you very much

1:44:49.640 --> 1:44:52.240
<v Speaker 2>for ringing Martin's and Kingsley lives in a colder sack.

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<v Speaker 2>We are building less of them, apparently. I'd love to

1:44:55.600 --> 1:44:57.400
<v Speaker 2>hear from you today. Do you live in a colder sack?

1:44:57.600 --> 1:45:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Is it any good? I live in a coldersack? And

1:45:00.720 --> 1:45:04.679
<v Speaker 2>Riverton says Margaret. Hello, Margaret's backs onto Varland the voland

1:45:04.720 --> 1:45:08.000
<v Speaker 2>a Margaret. People have started parking in our street walking

1:45:08.040 --> 1:45:10.160
<v Speaker 2>through to catch bus to work. That's the thing. If

1:45:10.160 --> 1:45:11.839
<v Speaker 2>you're in a colder sack and it's got an alleyway,

1:45:12.320 --> 1:45:14.599
<v Speaker 2>it's got a little an alleyway to another street. People

1:45:14.640 --> 1:45:20.720
<v Speaker 2>do use them as thoroughfarees, don't they. Hammersley Hamersley is

1:45:20.800 --> 1:45:23.839
<v Speaker 2>perse pioneering cold de Sack suburbs is David of Greenwood.

1:45:24.439 --> 1:45:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, David. Hamersley's also the honeymoon capital of the world.

1:45:28.720 --> 1:45:30.720
<v Speaker 2>Glenn says, life is a cold de Sack starts out

1:45:30.760 --> 1:45:35.120
<v Speaker 2>promising me, ends up in a dead end, and Dave says,

1:45:35.240 --> 1:45:36.439
<v Speaker 2>and Max, I don't know if you can help us

1:45:36.479 --> 1:45:38.760
<v Speaker 2>with this around request. Can you play the guy on

1:45:38.840 --> 1:45:40.919
<v Speaker 2>your show when you're talking about cars and who's describing

1:45:40.960 --> 1:45:43.280
<v Speaker 2>the speedo warning sound ding ding ding Please? How did

1:45:43.320 --> 1:45:43.439
<v Speaker 2>you go?

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<v Speaker 27>Max?

1:45:44.000 --> 1:45:47.200
<v Speaker 2>I found it? Bowie, you have let's have a crack, mate.

1:45:47.280 --> 1:45:50.960
<v Speaker 21>Once you get to one hundred klonbas an hour, yeah,

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<v Speaker 21>this is going back from nineteen seventy up to nineteen

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<v Speaker 21>seventy nine.

1:46:00.360 --> 1:46:00.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1:46:00.760 --> 1:46:04.240
<v Speaker 21>Once you get two one hundred k's you get a

1:46:04.640 --> 1:46:09.080
<v Speaker 21>ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding.

1:46:09.240 --> 1:46:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Ding yep, and get the picture. Thanks Dave, Thanks for

1:46:15.360 --> 1:46:21.360
<v Speaker 2>thanks for remembering that. I've forgot about that. Mate gets

1:46:21.439 --> 1:46:24.960
<v Speaker 2>dark about us six, Thanks Dave, thanks for that, Thanks

1:46:25.000 --> 1:46:28.160
<v Speaker 2>for remembering. Alice Petrowsky is the vice president of the

1:46:28.160 --> 1:46:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Playing Institute of Australia, of Australia in the w a

1:46:31.280 --> 1:46:35.920
<v Speaker 2>division of all of that joins him now Okada, Alex, Yeah,

1:46:36.000 --> 1:46:37.439
<v Speaker 2>really good to talk to you. So story in the

1:46:37.600 --> 1:46:41.000
<v Speaker 2>rac Horizons magazine that we're building less and less cold

1:46:41.040 --> 1:46:44.439
<v Speaker 2>of sacks. Some of them have a kind of a name,

1:46:44.520 --> 1:46:47.799
<v Speaker 2>don't they. They starts with R. I think ram Barn.

1:46:48.360 --> 1:46:50.519
<v Speaker 2>What's that note? That's for the system of the colder

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<v Speaker 2>sacks And.

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<v Speaker 37>It's a Radburn principle. I think it came up to

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<v Speaker 37>the garden city.

1:46:55.400 --> 1:46:56.280
<v Speaker 12>Planning back in the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Radburn, that's it. I think I've seen it in south

1:46:58.400 --> 1:47:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Head and Alex if I'm if I'm not, if I'm right.

1:47:01.800 --> 1:47:02.479
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 37>There's a few. Then there's a few in and around.

1:47:05.200 --> 1:47:05.840
<v Speaker 6>Perth as well.

1:47:06.360 --> 1:47:08.240
<v Speaker 2>And are we building less than maid and why?

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<v Speaker 34>Well, I think we are.

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<v Speaker 37>As we grow up in the city, we realize that,

1:47:15.080 --> 1:47:18.120
<v Speaker 37>you know, we've tried the garden principle and it really

1:47:18.160 --> 1:47:21.559
<v Speaker 37>works in low density areas. But as our city continues

1:47:21.600 --> 1:47:25.799
<v Speaker 37>to densify, we're looking at improving connections, making it easier

1:47:25.840 --> 1:47:28.639
<v Speaker 37>for people to walk and ride and take alternative forms

1:47:28.680 --> 1:47:31.639
<v Speaker 37>of transport and kind of shifting the focus away from

1:47:32.280 --> 1:47:34.679
<v Speaker 37>building a city around a car to building a city

1:47:34.760 --> 1:47:37.120
<v Speaker 37>around people and other forms of transport.

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting, Alex. We're talking about it today and people

1:47:40.400 --> 1:47:42.280
<v Speaker 2>are ringing in and they love living in a colder sack.

1:47:42.400 --> 1:47:44.679
<v Speaker 2>You know, they've got three or four, five, six neighbors

1:47:44.720 --> 1:47:47.000
<v Speaker 2>get on really well, theome street parties, looking after each

1:47:47.000 --> 1:47:50.160
<v Speaker 2>other's kids, having a good time, sense of community. It's

1:47:50.160 --> 1:47:55.200
<v Speaker 2>interesting that guys like yourself and planners see other benefits

1:47:55.320 --> 1:47:57.559
<v Speaker 2>or see the benefits of not building in cold de sacs.

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<v Speaker 37>Now, well that's right. Well, I mean all those things

1:48:00.960 --> 1:48:03.439
<v Speaker 37>are absolutely right. And I grew up in essentially a

1:48:03.520 --> 1:48:06.280
<v Speaker 37>colder sake. It was a circle. But there's no reason

1:48:06.640 --> 1:48:09.120
<v Speaker 37>why those you know, getting to know your neighbors, having

1:48:09.200 --> 1:48:13.000
<v Speaker 37>parties and you know, meeting each other on the street.

1:48:13.479 --> 1:48:15.960
<v Speaker 37>That can happen on many different types of streets, so

1:48:16.040 --> 1:48:17.559
<v Speaker 37>it just doesn't have to be a cold a sake.

1:48:19.240 --> 1:48:21.760
<v Speaker 37>While it does slow the traffic down because you know

1:48:22.200 --> 1:48:25.479
<v Speaker 37>there's only one way, you know, this can happen all

1:48:25.520 --> 1:48:29.320
<v Speaker 37>through different types of streets and boulevards around the area.

1:48:29.680 --> 1:48:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have the south Head and could de sac

1:48:34.479 --> 1:48:39.360
<v Speaker 2>principle is extraordinary. Having driven around it, Alex, like you

1:48:39.439 --> 1:48:42.240
<v Speaker 2>get stuck. He gets stuck. He can't he never find

1:48:42.280 --> 1:48:43.840
<v Speaker 2>him way out to the main road in the South

1:48:43.880 --> 1:48:45.360
<v Speaker 2>heaven one. I don't know what the other ones arelike,

1:48:45.439 --> 1:48:48.639
<v Speaker 2>but it's not always easy. I think Stratton is very similar.

1:48:48.720 --> 1:48:51.160
<v Speaker 2>Stratton add in Midvalve is very similar. I think from memory.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes they're hard to get out of, aren't they.

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<v Speaker 28>Ah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 37>You can pretty much get lost in Bella Juris sometimes

1:48:56.960 --> 1:48:59.519
<v Speaker 37>as well. And that's another principle as well. We kind

1:48:59.520 --> 1:49:01.080
<v Speaker 37>of need to make our road to be easier for

1:49:01.120 --> 1:49:04.439
<v Speaker 37>people to understand and get around. And instead of making

1:49:04.520 --> 1:49:07.679
<v Speaker 37>someone walk a kilometers, if you've got a street going

1:49:07.800 --> 1:49:10.080
<v Speaker 37>through or you know, a lame way like they have

1:49:10.720 --> 1:49:13.519
<v Speaker 37>in some places, it can really shorten the distance. And

1:49:13.600 --> 1:49:16.360
<v Speaker 37>that's really important for people who might not be as

1:49:16.439 --> 1:49:17.320
<v Speaker 37>mobile or might.

1:49:17.280 --> 1:49:17.800
<v Speaker 25>Not have a car.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, talking to Alex Petrotski. Alex is the Vice President

1:49:21.080 --> 1:49:24.000
<v Speaker 2>of the Planning Institute of Australia and he's VP here

1:49:24.080 --> 1:49:27.479
<v Speaker 2>in w A. Alex. More broadly, you know, you sometimes

1:49:27.560 --> 1:49:30.840
<v Speaker 2>hear criticism. You know, Stevenson Avenue wasn't planned properly back

1:49:30.880 --> 1:49:33.559
<v Speaker 2>in the day in the fifties, and freeway wasn't planned

1:49:33.600 --> 1:49:36.559
<v Speaker 2>to be wide enough. How does the Planning Planning Institute

1:49:36.640 --> 1:49:40.960
<v Speaker 2>these days have an input into WA Planning Commission initiatives

1:49:41.080 --> 1:49:43.479
<v Speaker 2>or local government initiatives? How is it? Are we getting

1:49:43.520 --> 1:49:43.880
<v Speaker 2>better at it?

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<v Speaker 37>Look, I think we are growing up and we are

1:49:47.360 --> 1:49:51.360
<v Speaker 37>getting better. We have we build on our relationships and

1:49:51.439 --> 1:49:54.439
<v Speaker 37>we've got a great relationship with the state government and

1:49:54.560 --> 1:49:57.759
<v Speaker 37>the Minister for Planning and we're essentially our thought leader,

1:49:58.200 --> 1:50:00.720
<v Speaker 37>representing our members at the fourth front of some of

1:50:00.800 --> 1:50:04.639
<v Speaker 37>the best planning examples. Now sometimes we're thinking fifty sixty

1:50:04.720 --> 1:50:07.559
<v Speaker 37>years down into the future and we've got a big

1:50:07.640 --> 1:50:10.680
<v Speaker 37>role in community education as well. So sometimes there can

1:50:10.800 --> 1:50:14.760
<v Speaker 37>be some peer of change and things being different, but

1:50:15.000 --> 1:50:17.200
<v Speaker 37>it's really important that the planning is the true and

1:50:17.280 --> 1:50:20.519
<v Speaker 37>the planners out there take the community on a journey

1:50:20.800 --> 1:50:23.400
<v Speaker 37>and actually show them the benefits of how we can

1:50:23.439 --> 1:50:24.040
<v Speaker 37>do things better.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah all right, Hey, really good to talk to you today, Alex,

1:50:26.680 --> 1:50:30.599
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Thank you, bar She's Alex Petrowski, Vice President

1:50:30.800 --> 1:50:34.479
<v Speaker 2>here in WA of the Planning Institute of Australia. Coulder

1:50:34.560 --> 1:50:37.840
<v Speaker 2>sacks are being used less and less bytown planners as

1:50:37.920 --> 1:50:44.080
<v Speaker 2>we try to densify get people moving through suburbs, make

1:50:44.520 --> 1:50:47.960
<v Speaker 2>suburbs more connected in terms of pedestrians and the light

1:50:48.040 --> 1:50:51.000
<v Speaker 2>and getting us to train stations of public transport. After

1:50:51.040 --> 1:50:53.560
<v Speaker 2>hear from you today, are you do you live in

1:50:53.600 --> 1:50:55.960
<v Speaker 2>a cold sack? Or have you lived in a cold

1:50:55.960 --> 1:51:00.080
<v Speaker 2>de sac? We've asked John Nichols do you live in

1:51:00.160 --> 1:51:03.439
<v Speaker 2>a colder sack? John says it's in and he is

1:51:03.560 --> 1:51:06.240
<v Speaker 2>the authority. John does live in a colder sack. It's

1:51:06.240 --> 1:51:08.400
<v Speaker 2>a very nice, one beautiful little bit of a hill.

1:51:08.400 --> 1:51:10.559
<v Speaker 2>And that hasn't John very nice colder sack? John lives

1:51:10.600 --> 1:51:12.840
<v Speaker 2>in sixteen and a half minutes to mid They love

1:51:12.880 --> 1:51:16.240
<v Speaker 2>to hear from you. Have vapes won the war on vapes?

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<v Speaker 2>Our listeners think they have. Our listens think they have

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<v Speaker 2>won the war on vapes. Seventy six to four, sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>minutes to twelve. Back in a moment, Dave says, I

1:51:27.920 --> 1:51:32.040
<v Speaker 2>sound like a German. Why is that, Dave? That's very funny.

1:51:32.920 --> 1:51:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Fred says, I think I read that colder sack means

1:51:34.840 --> 1:51:37.040
<v Speaker 2>the bottom of the bag. It does, Fred, I just

1:51:37.080 --> 1:51:38.400
<v Speaker 2>looked it up. Be after you send in the text.

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<v Speaker 2>I think means the bottom of the bottom of the sack.

1:51:42.360 --> 1:51:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Colder sacks the Uel Sac. Thanks Fred. One of our

1:51:47.880 --> 1:51:49.840
<v Speaker 2>listeners is police cards heading north on the fray of

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<v Speaker 2>Belcata in a big hurry, and that was about five

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<v Speaker 2>minutes ago. He has been some police activity today, some

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<v Speaker 2>police of vehicular movement twelve and a half minutes to twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>Have vapes won the war on apes? Yeses are seventy

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<v Speaker 2>six and those of four Peter, you.

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<v Speaker 34>Know Simon, Yes, I live in a culder sack nice

1:52:09.120 --> 1:52:15.120
<v Speaker 34>off Odin Drive. So both ends of Odin Drive coulder sacks.

1:52:15.200 --> 1:52:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and yeah that's true.

1:52:17.960 --> 1:52:22.519
<v Speaker 34>We are we are between the Mitchell Freeway mode and drive.

1:52:23.280 --> 1:52:28.720
<v Speaker 34>So there's two coulder sacks where I am. So when

1:52:28.800 --> 1:52:32.920
<v Speaker 34>you come off all Place, there's a culder sack in

1:52:33.040 --> 1:52:35.759
<v Speaker 34>All Place, and there's a coulder sack in Martelly Place.

1:52:36.520 --> 1:52:38.840
<v Speaker 34>And then if you go over the freeway in gwell

1:52:38.880 --> 1:52:44.400
<v Speaker 34>Up near the gwell Up shopping center, more coulder sacks. Yes,

1:52:44.920 --> 1:52:45.920
<v Speaker 34>it is a collection.

1:52:46.320 --> 1:52:48.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's heaps around there. I think where you are.

1:52:48.200 --> 1:52:50.320
<v Speaker 2>There's those little lakes as well, on those cycle ways,

1:52:50.360 --> 1:52:55.040
<v Speaker 2>in those little ornamental lakes, Pete, Yeah, yeah, yeah, cool. Peter.

1:52:55.080 --> 1:52:57.200
<v Speaker 2>If you lived at the other end, you could walk

1:52:57.240 --> 1:52:58.120
<v Speaker 2>to the Odin Tavern.

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<v Speaker 34>Well I live. I live when I was much fitter.

1:53:03.920 --> 1:53:09.719
<v Speaker 34>I'm about fifteen minutes walk from the Odin Tavern Simon.

1:53:09.920 --> 1:53:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah so yeah.

1:53:11.840 --> 1:53:16.040
<v Speaker 34>And then actually I used to be able to cross it. Well,

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<v Speaker 34>the road used to go all the way there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's right.

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<v Speaker 34>Then they closed that end off and you have to

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<v Speaker 34>walk through a path.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, you do have to walk through a path. Pete.

1:53:27.160 --> 1:53:30.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to check this, but I'm pretty sure where

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<v Speaker 2>near where you live and that part of Odin Road

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<v Speaker 2>was on the nineteen sixty two marathon course for the

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<v Speaker 2>Commonwealth Games.

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<v Speaker 6>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 24>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>It was out and back from Prairie Lakes, went down

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<v Speaker 2>there down Telford Present, Ok, where the bridge is, and

1:53:47.320 --> 1:53:48.920
<v Speaker 2>I freak think it went down your way mate. I'm

1:53:48.920 --> 1:53:50.639
<v Speaker 2>going to check that when down Odin Road as well.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm Pete. Thanks for having a chat to us,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you mate. Ten and a half minutes to midday,

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<v Speaker 2>Pete con Hi, Kathy, Hi, how are you going good?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you? You live in a cold set.

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<v Speaker 38>It's called a close oh yes, yep.

1:54:08.080 --> 1:54:12.000
<v Speaker 16>Yeah, so it's only got about I think eight houses

1:54:12.160 --> 1:54:16.840
<v Speaker 16>and it's also got a driveway that leads to a

1:54:16.920 --> 1:54:19.519
<v Speaker 16>little over fifties village sort of thing as well.

1:54:19.760 --> 1:54:24.479
<v Speaker 2>Okay, what suburb Rockingham? Oh yeah, okay, there's plenty in Rockingham, isn't.

1:54:24.320 --> 1:54:28.360
<v Speaker 16>There there is? Yeah, yeah, but we absolutely love it.

1:54:28.680 --> 1:54:33.160
<v Speaker 16>It's the best thing, nice and social for you, very sociure.

1:54:33.240 --> 1:54:36.480
<v Speaker 16>We have drinks on someone's lawn usually every Friday night.

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<v Speaker 2>Very nice.

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<v Speaker 16>And then yeah, we've been the last two weekends we

1:54:41.640 --> 1:54:45.720
<v Speaker 16>all got together and watched an Eagles game and it's

1:54:45.760 --> 1:54:48.839
<v Speaker 16>good for us because we're Dockers supported, so that was enjoyable.

1:54:49.600 --> 1:54:55.760
<v Speaker 16>And yeah, and then the weekend before there was another

1:54:55.840 --> 1:54:59.200
<v Speaker 16>birthday party. So there's often and just you know, whenever

1:54:59.200 --> 1:55:01.200
<v Speaker 16>you're putting out your into you'll have a chat and

1:55:01.880 --> 1:55:04.360
<v Speaker 16>good to sort of know what's going on in the neighborhood.

1:55:04.440 --> 1:55:07.280
<v Speaker 16>We've all got sort of different things to share, and yeah,

1:55:07.680 --> 1:55:09.640
<v Speaker 16>and just to look out for each other. And we've

1:55:09.800 --> 1:55:12.640
<v Speaker 16>got each other's phone numbers and got a group chat

1:55:12.760 --> 1:55:15.000
<v Speaker 16>on Facebook Messinger. Yeah it's great.

1:55:15.200 --> 1:55:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's very nice. Nice place to bring up a family.

1:55:18.080 --> 1:55:19.840
<v Speaker 24>Hey beautiful.

1:55:20.120 --> 1:55:20.880
<v Speaker 14>Yes, we love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, well done. And I and I have nice

1:55:24.240 --> 1:55:30.120
<v Speaker 2>to bring up nice kids. Hey, Kathy, you it was

1:55:30.160 --> 1:55:32.240
<v Speaker 2>really nice having a chat to you I didn't really

1:55:32.360 --> 1:55:36.920
<v Speaker 2>like the Eagles thing, but I understood it. Oh sorry, yeap, Hey,

1:55:37.120 --> 1:55:39.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm Kathy. Nice to talk to you. How good? How

1:55:39.880 --> 1:55:43.839
<v Speaker 2>good is Kathy won double three eight eighty two. Hi, Margaret,

1:55:44.400 --> 1:55:48.120
<v Speaker 2>got some advice for me? He hello, Margaret, you've got

1:55:48.160 --> 1:55:48.840
<v Speaker 2>some advice for me.

1:55:49.760 --> 1:55:51.840
<v Speaker 15>The other day you said you went to Bunning something

1:55:51.920 --> 1:55:52.600
<v Speaker 15>for your MinC.

1:55:52.760 --> 1:55:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I did. Yes, some big some big cheese. You

1:55:55.400 --> 1:55:58.400
<v Speaker 2>got some big cheese traps and some big cheese sachets.

1:55:59.720 --> 1:56:02.760
<v Speaker 15>If you mixed peanut paste and buy carbonated soda together,

1:56:03.160 --> 1:56:05.320
<v Speaker 15>make a little walls. He put them out for the

1:56:05.400 --> 1:56:08.760
<v Speaker 15>mist eat and they can't art for boop, and they smell.

1:56:08.600 --> 1:56:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Up, they blow up. What do you mean, Well, well,

1:56:11.840 --> 1:56:13.800
<v Speaker 2>they get all bloated, they actually physically blow up.

1:56:14.520 --> 1:56:19.040
<v Speaker 15>They explode, and then it's fay bo cats eat as well.

1:56:20.240 --> 1:56:22.560
<v Speaker 2>So so you're around your house, you got you got

1:56:22.600 --> 1:56:25.120
<v Speaker 2>a friend, a special friend around and a mouse crawls

1:56:25.160 --> 1:56:27.080
<v Speaker 2>out in front of it explodes in front of a Margaret.

1:56:31.360 --> 1:56:35.800
<v Speaker 2>That's not ideal, is it? Hey? Margaret? I spoke to

1:56:35.880 --> 1:56:38.160
<v Speaker 2>Shannon last yesterday. You know, she fixes things, the Queen

1:56:38.200 --> 1:56:40.480
<v Speaker 2>of clean all of that, And she told me to

1:56:40.560 --> 1:56:44.240
<v Speaker 2>get some snake poo because because snakes, you know, are

1:56:44.280 --> 1:56:46.760
<v Speaker 2>the predator of mice and rats. But yeah, I can't.

1:56:46.840 --> 1:56:48.880
<v Speaker 2>I can't get it. I round the I rang the

1:56:48.960 --> 1:56:53.080
<v Speaker 2>reptile place in Henley Brook and this old bloke we

1:56:53.160 --> 1:56:54.800
<v Speaker 2>have got any of that stuff made. It's the winter,

1:56:55.280 --> 1:56:59.240
<v Speaker 2>so I don't know where to get it. Thanks, thanks

1:56:59.280 --> 1:57:01.640
<v Speaker 2>you help Margaret exploding my exploding my, It's just what

1:57:01.720 --> 1:57:02.000
<v Speaker 2>I need.

1:57:02.960 --> 1:57:03.240
<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

1:57:04.840 --> 1:57:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Bye see yeah, bye see bye. Marret's having a good time. Yeah,

1:57:10.000 --> 1:57:11.680
<v Speaker 2>you can't get snake poop. So I rang the zoo

1:57:11.680 --> 1:57:14.440
<v Speaker 2>they haven't got any. Rang the reptile house in Henley Brook.

1:57:14.880 --> 1:57:16.240
<v Speaker 2>They haven't got any. This is all on the back

1:57:16.280 --> 1:57:19.080
<v Speaker 2>of Shannon Lush saying you need viper poo because mice

1:57:19.120 --> 1:57:21.480
<v Speaker 2>are scared of vipers because they predate upon them, you know,

1:57:21.480 --> 1:57:23.640
<v Speaker 2>they eat them. I can't get it. I don't know

1:57:23.680 --> 1:57:25.680
<v Speaker 2>where it is. Pedo haven't got any. Pet barn haven't

1:57:25.680 --> 1:57:30.640
<v Speaker 2>got any. Might be one of those Shannon Lush specials.

1:57:31.320 --> 1:57:33.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Can't get shut can't get snake poo,

1:57:33.920 --> 1:57:36.520
<v Speaker 2>vipa poo in w A that I can see. Hello,

1:57:36.600 --> 1:57:41.560
<v Speaker 2>Alan oh cold of sex, Yeah, good mate, thank you.

1:57:42.320 --> 1:57:45.160
<v Speaker 25>I can't beat it, so I've yeah, we've probably lived

1:57:45.160 --> 1:57:48.720
<v Speaker 25>here over around thirty years plus. So yeah, back in

1:57:48.800 --> 1:57:50.480
<v Speaker 25>the day it was probably also like sand Dune this

1:57:50.520 --> 1:57:53.120
<v Speaker 25>sort of thing and all that. But it's just like

1:57:53.280 --> 1:57:55.720
<v Speaker 25>growing up, you know, the kids and all that safe

1:57:55.760 --> 1:57:57.960
<v Speaker 25>haven sort of thing. And now it's all grand kids

1:57:58.000 --> 1:58:00.360
<v Speaker 25>in the street and all moved out. But you know

1:58:00.440 --> 1:58:02.240
<v Speaker 25>they've been through the licensing and all that.

1:58:02.400 --> 1:58:02.960
<v Speaker 2>But where are you.

1:58:04.200 --> 1:58:05.960
<v Speaker 38>I'm in Port Kennedy, all right.

1:58:07.760 --> 1:58:12.640
<v Speaker 25>Yeah, yeah, Christmas lights every year, so it's popular with

1:58:12.720 --> 1:58:14.880
<v Speaker 25>people driving around and you can't get act the driveway

1:58:14.920 --> 1:58:16.160
<v Speaker 25>but yeah, it's all fun.

1:58:16.400 --> 1:58:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well don't mate. Yeah, Port Kenley's got plenty of

1:58:19.000 --> 1:58:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Colder Sex. Well Up does as well. That was mentioned

1:58:21.520 --> 1:58:23.960
<v Speaker 2>by Peter earlier. Well Up's good a Christmas lights as well.

1:58:24.280 --> 1:58:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Got some mates who live and well Up and they

1:58:26.960 --> 1:58:29.440
<v Speaker 2>they got little kids and you know, one fan would

1:58:29.440 --> 1:58:31.040
<v Speaker 2>go to the footy and the other family look after

1:58:31.080 --> 1:58:34.600
<v Speaker 2>the kids. They've got their very own babysitting system in

1:58:34.680 --> 1:58:38.560
<v Speaker 2>the cold de sack. Did they sean, good morning? How

1:58:38.600 --> 1:58:40.080
<v Speaker 2>are you good, mate? Colder Sex?

1:58:41.800 --> 1:58:42.640
<v Speaker 39>Yeah, well I'm.

1:58:42.440 --> 1:58:43.480
<v Speaker 6>Currently doing in England work.

1:58:43.520 --> 1:58:48.760
<v Speaker 39>But we grew up in Belladura in Shawview Terrace. My

1:58:49.400 --> 1:58:52.640
<v Speaker 39>father's daughter Buss Warring in the Coulder Sack, and all

1:58:52.680 --> 1:58:54.800
<v Speaker 39>the neighbors put together a basketball team used to play

1:58:54.800 --> 1:58:59.400
<v Speaker 39>in Laga. Eventually, one neighbor made a bunch of complaints

1:59:00.400 --> 1:59:03.520
<v Speaker 39>and the council gave us a letter to say that

1:59:03.600 --> 1:59:05.240
<v Speaker 39>we had to remove the ring.

1:59:06.040 --> 1:59:07.080
<v Speaker 2>But winned at number.

1:59:06.880 --> 1:59:10.240
<v Speaker 39>Fifty five Shawby Terrace, and Carl Bruton was number fifty

1:59:10.280 --> 1:59:12.360
<v Speaker 39>five for the Wildcat So he got ahold of.

1:59:12.360 --> 1:59:15.040
<v Speaker 37>The story and came over on a basketball clinic at.

1:59:14.960 --> 1:59:15.800
<v Speaker 36>Our house, which was great.

1:59:16.200 --> 1:59:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Did he really?

1:59:19.040 --> 1:59:22.640
<v Speaker 39>Unfortunately the basketballing didn't survive, but all the kids thought

1:59:22.720 --> 1:59:26.200
<v Speaker 39>were there were superstars getting to meet that's their favorite player.

1:59:26.480 --> 1:59:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, very much. So what year do I think was

1:59:29.640 --> 1:59:30.960
<v Speaker 2>he still playing for the Wildcats? Then?

1:59:33.760 --> 1:59:35.000
<v Speaker 34>I think he'd just retired.

1:59:35.080 --> 1:59:37.440
<v Speaker 39>Yeah, I think today his son was playing at the time.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it was in ninety nine or two.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, cool mate, good story, Sean, Thank you mate. Yeah,

1:59:42.960 --> 1:59:47.160
<v Speaker 2>the Cold de Sack, Hey, little social harbors, street parties,

1:59:47.960 --> 1:59:53.240
<v Speaker 2>plenty of them. Balladura Alex Petrowski, our expert. He said

1:59:53.520 --> 1:59:56.560
<v Speaker 2>that Balladura is a famous Could de Sac Venue. Four

1:59:56.600 --> 1:59:59.160
<v Speaker 2>and a half minutes to midday. Thanks everyone, who's called

1:59:59.200 --> 2:00:01.840
<v Speaker 2>in today, All in the running to be our caller

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<v Speaker 2>of the day. A double pass to go and see

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<v Speaker 2>the Terracotta Warriors, the Chinese Terracotta Warriors. They will be

2:00:07.120 --> 2:00:09.960
<v Speaker 2>at Buller Bard It the WA Museum between the twenty

2:00:10.000 --> 2:00:11.720
<v Speaker 2>eighth of June and February next year. And that's a

2:00:12.400 --> 2:00:15.920
<v Speaker 2>ripper prize. Thanks Taz for organizing that. So ring in today,

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<v Speaker 2>How good good? I can't wait to see that twenty

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<v Speaker 2>eighth June through to February. One double three A eighty

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<v Speaker 2>two is the phone number. We'll come back in just

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<v Speaker 2>a moment. Stay listening. Have vapes won the war on vapes?

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<v Speaker 2>The yes has already won the nose. For just a reminder,

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<v Speaker 2>Oli Peterson has got a big couple of days coming

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<v Speaker 2>up with the state of Origin, the King of the

2:00:39.280 --> 2:00:43.560
<v Speaker 2>outside broadcast air man, Oli, So make sure you're listening,

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<v Speaker 2>Simon viper poo. Why don't you call the WA Rep

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<v Speaker 2>Dole Center. I did, I did? In the nice man

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<v Speaker 2>said we ain't got any He said, I was listening

2:00:51.720 --> 2:00:53.960
<v Speaker 2>to suxbr today. I thought you might call me. Haven't

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<v Speaker 2>got any because it's winter. Brenda says, well up, definitely,

2:00:56.240 --> 2:00:58.120
<v Speaker 2>it's good sign but currently no bridge over the lake.

2:00:58.160 --> 2:00:59.720
<v Speaker 2>That's right. Brennan had a walk around there on the

2:00:59.760 --> 2:01:02.880
<v Speaker 2>week that bridge is still not there. I'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>hear from you today. Best mousetracks brought from Woody self

2:01:07.040 --> 2:01:10.400
<v Speaker 2>baited clean death, no blood and guts a rat one

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<v Speaker 2>works will also bonus no poisons. Therefore to feed the birds.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Bernie, thank you very much. Twelve o'clock now.

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<v Speaker 1>Until one. This is Perth today with Simon Beaumont's on

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<v Speaker 1>Perth six pr Ian Moss in the middle of by river.

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<v Speaker 2>How good, Yes, no question today, which will take through

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<v Speaker 2>until one o'clock today. Have vapes or our vapes winning

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<v Speaker 2>the war on vapes? Have vapes won the war on vapes?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it already over? Police Commissioner told us today he

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<v Speaker 2>can't police it. He won't police it. It's not his job,

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<v Speaker 2>fair enough, can't argue with cole And it's the Health

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<v Speaker 2>Department's job to enforce the illegal sale of vapes and

2:01:58.280 --> 2:02:03.680
<v Speaker 2>vaping accessories. Well, there's very little policing vapes her everywhere.

2:02:03.800 --> 2:02:08.920
<v Speaker 2>They're on mind sites, they're on airport terminals when people

2:02:08.960 --> 2:02:13.000
<v Speaker 2>come back from mind sits. They are dead set everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know where to go and get them, and

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon A lot of my mates do too. One

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<v Speaker 2>double three eight eighty two have vapes. One of war

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<v Speaker 2>on vapes. The guest is eighty one on the nose

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<v Speaker 2>of four. Going to speak to James Morley in just

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<v Speaker 2>a moment, former bass player from the Angels. James is

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<v Speaker 2>you know, does some nice beautiful stuff with bloom as

2:02:35.720 --> 2:02:38.360
<v Speaker 2>we know, but also he's a hard rocker when he

2:02:38.400 --> 2:02:40.000
<v Speaker 2>wants to be, when it suits him, throws a black

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<v Speaker 2>t shirt on and gets the Gibson out. We're going

2:02:41.720 --> 2:02:44.120
<v Speaker 2>to ask him about the remake of It's a Long

2:02:44.120 --> 2:02:47.320
<v Speaker 2>Way to the Top. The ac DC songs fifty years old.

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<v Speaker 2>There's talk of remaking the video in the back of

2:02:50.000 --> 2:02:53.000
<v Speaker 2>that flatbed truck. A lot of those buildings don't exist anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>You may have heard Forty talking to Carl and Milsey

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<v Speaker 2>about it. Today we'll talk to Jimmy Morley in just

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<v Speaker 2>a moment. It's one of Australia's great rock and roll

2:03:02.080 --> 2:03:04.160
<v Speaker 2>film clips, isn't it. So we'll ask you that question today.

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<v Speaker 2>The great Australian rock and roll film clips, probably from

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<v Speaker 2>the Countdown era. I reckon one double three a eighty two.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been sent some pictures of us what it looks

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<v Speaker 2>like a seal or a sea lion into the show

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<v Speaker 2>just recently. We're trying to work out where it is.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a sea lion on a female sea lion, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you Ann, Thank you Sean, on a beach somewhere, and

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<v Speaker 2>it looks we can sort of see some of the

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<v Speaker 2>the parts of the Freemount of Port in the background.

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<v Speaker 2>So we think it's been potentially between Codders Slow and

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<v Speaker 2>Port Beach, or between Layton and the Port beach. A

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<v Speaker 2>bit hard to tell sea lions lying on its side,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they do when they're tired or sick. They

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<v Speaker 2>do wash up every now and then. There was that

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<v Speaker 2>one up at Sorrento all those years ago, Stephen Sielberg

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<v Speaker 2>and these are the big sea lions, the big ones.

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<v Speaker 2>But this one on a beach at the moment, so

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<v Speaker 2>we think possibly Port, possibly light and round cable, you

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<v Speaker 2>know where that non existent surf break is where the

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<v Speaker 2>artificial reef is round there. It's around there somewhere. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a female sea lion, we believe in the photos have

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<v Speaker 2>been sent into us. It's definitely latent, is it, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you Laighton. We found the bend sign. So the

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<v Speaker 2>Bend signs came into being after Ben Gerins was killed

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<v Speaker 2>by a shark down near Falcon And the Ben signs

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<v Speaker 2>are a really good idea, aren't there The red and

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<v Speaker 2>green signs. They've got a number on them. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you ever get into stripe on the beach, just fund

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<v Speaker 2>an abates. You can say I'm at CT three fifty

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever and the ambos can get there. So we

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<v Speaker 2>believe it is a latent beach because of the bend sign.

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<v Speaker 2>We also believe DBC a Department of bio Diversity, Conservation

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<v Speaker 2>and Attractions, mean to check it out and it's just resting,

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<v Speaker 2>which they do, you know when they get tired. One

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<v Speaker 2>double three eight two. Lots of advice on how to

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<v Speaker 2>get rid of mice. Gary says if he brought a snake,

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<v Speaker 2>not only would you have pooh, but possibly no mice. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's scary. Look, I've had I've caught sixteen of them

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<v Speaker 2>in the big cheese traps, sixteen in probably or probably

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen days, little tiny ones. The block nearby has been cleared,

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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, they're in the house. They've got in the

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<v Speaker 2>house somehow. I've killed sixteen of them, and it's not good.

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<v Speaker 2>And Margaret wants me to give them buy carbon soda

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<v Speaker 2>and peanut butter, so they blow up and explode in

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<v Speaker 2>front of you, which is less than ideal. Margaret, Thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>Robin says, should give me some python poo and a

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<v Speaker 2>shed a shed skin, which apparently rats and mice don't like,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll avoid. Thank you, Robin, appreciate that. One double

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<v Speaker 2>three eight eighty two. Do you think the vapes have

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<v Speaker 2>won the war on vapes? Jacko of Burswood says no,

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<v Speaker 2>the war is only just beginning. We'll fight them in

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<v Speaker 2>the shopping walls, on the wharfs, and if you're less

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<v Speaker 2>much other than John, Michael Howsen will take them off you,

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<v Speaker 2>says Jacko. Jack. I didn't completely understand all of that,

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<v Speaker 2>but think thanks for listening. In It's past twelve, so

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's time to have a cooking sherry. Hey, mate,

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<v Speaker 2>One double three A two is the phone number today.

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<v Speaker 2>A Quantus trainee captain who was commanding a flight from

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<v Speaker 2>Canberra passed out briefly. I think this is his first

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<v Speaker 2>day on the job. Passed out briefly in the cockpit

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<v Speaker 2>of a buying seven three seven, So he landed at

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<v Speaker 2>Sydney Airport and then he passed out. This is last Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 2>QF eighth four, one hundred and thirteen passengers and eight

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<v Speaker 2>crew crowding three pilots. So the trainee captain suffered what's

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<v Speaker 2>been described as an incapacitation. After the clane landded and

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<v Speaker 2>clear of the runway. Trainee captain, first day on the job,

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<v Speaker 2>plane lands, he passes out, has an incapacitation. What happened

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<v Speaker 2>to you on the first day of work? He has

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<v Speaker 2>something like that happened to you on the first day

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<v Speaker 2>of you're of a new job. One double three ay

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<v Speaker 2>two's the phone number. First st I worked for a

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<v Speaker 2>radio station. This was on a missap. This was amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>A fellow was killed by a shark at north Cottislow.

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<v Speaker 2>It was incredible.

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<v Speaker 14>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I always feel sad when that anniverse comes around for

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<v Speaker 2>the family. They have to relive it, and there's often

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<v Speaker 2>media articles about it. But that was my first day

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<v Speaker 2>at work and it was extraordinary and it started that

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<v Speaker 2>space of great white shark attacks that we saw through

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<v Speaker 2>West Australia. The first one back in two thousand and one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my first day. What happen to you in your

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<v Speaker 2>first day of work? One double three ay two is

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<v Speaker 2>the phone number. Love to hear from you. Ring in

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<v Speaker 2>one double three eight atty two and you could win

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<v Speaker 2>a double past the owned see the Chinese Terracotta Warriors

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<v Speaker 2>when they're at the museum the from June right through

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<v Speaker 2>to February of this year. Given the fact you said

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<v Speaker 2>you had a rodent free Max, that's not a very

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<v Speaker 2>good vertisement for them if you've got a heap of mice.

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<v Speaker 2>Just saying Damien, it does work the Max, but they've moved.

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<v Speaker 2>They've moved to another part of the house, so I

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<v Speaker 2>might need more than one good.

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<v Speaker 20>A Darren, mister Beaumont, first time call, a long time listener. Yes,

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<v Speaker 20>I had a missap on my first day at work.

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<v Speaker 20>I was fifteen and I was a roof tiler, so

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<v Speaker 20>I sold screw the roof on my first day and

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<v Speaker 20>my boss said come on, hurry up, as my legs

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<v Speaker 20>were dangling down the rafters.

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<v Speaker 27>Hurry up, Yeah, hurry up.

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<v Speaker 20>Then days, then days you are allowed to say hurry

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<v Speaker 20>up if you hurt yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not where you're supportive, is it. Hey? Darren, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you I've never asked you this. What do you

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<v Speaker 2>do now? You're not a roof tiler? Stay?

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<v Speaker 20>No, I can't do that anymore because everything hurts. I'm

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<v Speaker 20>I'm a building supervisor. Yeah, I've been doing that for

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<v Speaker 20>twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been nearly every day you've been at work. You've

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<v Speaker 2>won a polo shirt, haven't you.

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<v Speaker 15>Ah?

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<v Speaker 20>Actually, yes, you are correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, Thanks dads, good on your mate. Thank you. Dazz

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<v Speaker 2>has moved to laughing at his own material, which is

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<v Speaker 2>which is a nice development for him. Fourteen and a

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<v Speaker 2>half minutes past midday, going to be to James Morley

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<v Speaker 2>in just a moment. He has been in the tribute

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<v Speaker 2>band Bond, but not forgotten so he likes He's ACD

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<v Speaker 2>the Melbourne City Council of Keen to recreate the ACDC

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<v Speaker 2>music video long Way to the Top or the film

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<v Speaker 2>clip as we used to call it on the back

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<v Speaker 2>of the truck with Bond and the bag type bagpipes.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a countdown video made fifty years ago. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think I think it was Swanson straight that Jimmy Morley

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<v Speaker 2>would join us in just a sec our question to

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<v Speaker 2>you is the great rock and roll the Australian rock

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<v Speaker 2>and roll videos film clips. Quarter past twelve, trainee quantas

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<v Speaker 2>pilot has landed a plane with a couple of other

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<v Speaker 2>captains on board, and it has promptly blacked out. So

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's saved one hundred and thirteen passages on board. But

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<v Speaker 2>not a great first day at work? What's happened at

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<v Speaker 2>your first day at work? Or school day?

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<v Speaker 34>Rob got up?

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<v Speaker 2>They made what happened.

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<v Speaker 40>First at school? High school? The metalwork teacher told us

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<v Speaker 40>not to put got turn the machine off, and don't

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<v Speaker 40>put the bagnets down, and he put them down straight

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<v Speaker 40>up and lost all his fingers straight up up. No,

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<v Speaker 40>he is about the whole all his fingers. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 40>he's calmly put his hands up in front of us

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<v Speaker 40>and said, I'm off to the nurse. So we're all

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<v Speaker 40>the girls are crying and god, man, first period of

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<v Speaker 40>metal work?

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<v Speaker 2>What's what?

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<v Speaker 6>First period?

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<v Speaker 2>What school?

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<v Speaker 3>Was that?

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<v Speaker 2>Canting?

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<v Speaker 41>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Man? So all fingers on one hand.

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<v Speaker 40>Or the fingers or both hands. He kept his thumbs

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<v Speaker 40>but lost his fingers.

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<v Speaker 34>Hands.

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<v Speaker 2>When was this like them? Sixteen nineteen?

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<v Speaker 34>I think it was ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 40>I can't even tell you now. Nineteen eighty four, I

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<v Speaker 40>think I think somewhere around there.

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<v Speaker 2>Did he ever come back to work?

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<v Speaker 40>I never saw it. I think they banned the Magnat

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<v Speaker 40>machines after that. He actually turended off at the machine.

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<v Speaker 40>But it was actually a foldy switching machine.

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<v Speaker 41>I think that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 40>Oh no, it wasn't his soult.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, that's that's terrible catastrophic. Thanks mate. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what a magnet machine is either. A

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<v Speaker 2>twenty minutes past twelve sounds like you shouldn't have them

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<v Speaker 2>at schools. Did a mark?

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<v Speaker 6>Hey both?

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<v Speaker 36>Yeah, Mike. It was actually my second day so, and

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<v Speaker 36>it was also my last day working for a company

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<v Speaker 36>that sold appliances. They're longer one bust. And it was

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<v Speaker 36>a franchise arrangement, and I went to day two. I

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<v Speaker 36>went to a national meeting and had to break up

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<v Speaker 36>a fight between the franchise and the franchise.

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<v Speaker 2>Alls nice.

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<v Speaker 36>That was day two and I thought, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Not hanging around.

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<v Speaker 41>That was it?

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<v Speaker 2>No who won the who won the fight?

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<v Speaker 36>It let's call it a draw. But it was for long?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 27>Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>And that was it? What do you do? How long?

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<v Speaker 27>Befo?

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<v Speaker 2>We got another job.

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<v Speaker 14>Week?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 34>Problem?

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<v Speaker 2>Cheers mate, thank you. Second day at we're breaking up

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<v Speaker 2>a fight between the franchisee and the franchise chise. It's

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one minutes past twelve o'clock. Remember this.

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<v Speaker 32>Here, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Cracking song, fifty years old. Great video. That's what we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about today. I think we used to call the

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<v Speaker 2>film clips back in the day. Saw it on Countdown

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<v Speaker 2>ac DC. On the back of the flatbed truck heading

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<v Speaker 2>through Melbourne, Bond Scott with the bagpipes, people walking along

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<v Speaker 2>side the truck on the side of the road. James

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<v Speaker 2>Morley heavy Judy Museo bass player, guitarist, singer, songwriter joins me. Now, gooday, James,

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<v Speaker 2>morning mate. How you doing going well? You've played that

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<v Speaker 2>song a few times, haven't you? In your various iterations

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<v Speaker 2>so or three? Good song, A good song in it?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>It goes all right, don't it does? Does go well?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it your favorite ac DC film clip?

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<v Speaker 39>My favorite?

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<v Speaker 12>This is a film clip? Oh blimy. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 12>It's like all of them.

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<v Speaker 34>I can't pick one.

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<v Speaker 12>A lot of my children.

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<v Speaker 2>I like jail Break Jimmy with the you know he

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<v Speaker 2>made it out with a bull of his back and

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<v Speaker 2>one of the couple of young boys get shot. I

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<v Speaker 2>think ostensibly that's a good one. Thunder strikes a good video.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, that's right. I do a lot of the jail

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<v Speaker 12>Breake ones for a classic. It's so naff looking back

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<v Speaker 12>at it. But back then it would have been like

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<v Speaker 12>high tech stuff, you know, all the bombs going off

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<v Speaker 12>in the quarry and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. I forgot about the bombs. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>bit hokey that era, James, the Countdown era, we sort

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<v Speaker 2>of as kids grew up watching it and they were

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<v Speaker 2>just yeah, they were some of those videos, but they

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<v Speaker 2>were they were so bad. They were good, weren't they.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, that's the thing. It's a bit like a trainer,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, you can't pull yourself and look it away.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, James. I wonder how they'll do it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you've bet you've been around music production, recording and video

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<v Speaker 2>production as well. I wonder how they'll do it. I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder if they'll try to, you know, different singer, older

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<v Speaker 2>blokes now. I wonder they'll try to recreate the vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder how they'll try and do it.

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<v Speaker 20>I'm not so sure.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, back in those days, I think it didn't

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<v Speaker 12>it cost them like a thousand thousand bucks or something

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<v Speaker 12>to make that clip back in the day, and it

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<v Speaker 12>wasn't it wasn't much to it. But I think these days,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, with that many Akadaka fans floating around, I'm

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<v Speaker 12>not sure the bars get away with getting through the

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<v Speaker 12>middle of Melbourne with gridlock.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good point, But I mean in terms of.

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<v Speaker 12>The song itself, I mean, the band has never performed

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<v Speaker 12>live since Bonder, and I think they only did it

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<v Speaker 12>on a few occasions with Bond back the early days anyway,

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<v Speaker 12>So Brian sort of sees that song as Bond's big,

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<v Speaker 12>big moment with the band. It was kind of that

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<v Speaker 12>song that really propelled them at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 12>So yeah, I'm not sure what's going to go on

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<v Speaker 12>with this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I know. I'd heard three hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 2>bucks for the video production in total, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>the Countdown guys did it right. So I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's an absolute classic. That's interesting that Brian Johnson so

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<v Speaker 2>he essentially retired it, did he.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, well, I said that they tried a couple of

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<v Speaker 12>times live back in the seventies. According to Mark evans Zell,

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<v Speaker 12>bass player but Bond wasn't really much of a big

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<v Speaker 12>pipe player anyway, I'm not sure would have sounded any good,

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<v Speaker 12>but I did. Actually I went to sound check. I

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<v Speaker 12>think it was the ninety five ball Breaker tour and

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<v Speaker 12>they were playing at the Bearswood Dome and I went

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<v Speaker 12>to sound check and they were actually running the song

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<v Speaker 12>because they were thinking about playing it at the show.

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<v Speaker 12>And I remember Brian was looking for our old mate Scheena,

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<v Speaker 12>the singer from the Poor He was skinny, skinny, I

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<v Speaker 12>need the words, I need the words for the long

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<v Speaker 12>the top song. And they ran a sound check where

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<v Speaker 12>they didn't actually end up doing it at the show.

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<v Speaker 12>So a so far I'm was aware of that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably about the only time, Yeah, as close as

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<v Speaker 2>I ever got, just in an inner sound check talking

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<v Speaker 2>about James Morley, local gun muso and has played that

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<v Speaker 2>song many times in various tribute bands and cover bands

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<v Speaker 2>and all of that. This is give us a call today,

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<v Speaker 2>your favorite, given that video and given the topic of

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<v Speaker 2>choice today, what's your favorite sort of Australian rock videos

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<v Speaker 2>from the Countdown era? That was a beauty. There were

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of them, and some of them were in the

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<v Speaker 2>Countdown studio. Weren't they James and that always had They

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<v Speaker 2>always looked to always look the same. But some of

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<v Speaker 2>the some of the actual as we call them, film

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<v Speaker 2>clicks back in the day, still hold up a right,

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon, mate, what are you up to? What's next?

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<v Speaker 2>What's blow them up to.

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<v Speaker 12>Blue? We're about to head off to Sydney tomorrow. We're

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<v Speaker 12>doing a bunch of shows with our Fleetwood Mac show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 12>But she's got planned and yeah, got a few little

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<v Speaker 12>overseas trips and all that sort of stuff happening with

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<v Speaker 12>the band as well. So yeah, lots of things on

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<v Speaker 12>the horizon at the moment. So today's my lay on

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<v Speaker 12>a couch day and then tomorrow we'll hit it right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right mate, Well, good luck break a leg.

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<v Speaker 2>I know lots of people that know you guys from

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<v Speaker 2>cruise ships and know her from cruise ships. She says

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of that, doesn't she.

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<v Speaker 20>Yeah, we did.

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<v Speaker 12>About three or four last year and they're actually a

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<v Speaker 12>lot of fun. You don't get to play that much.

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<v Speaker 12>I think you play about two hours in total for

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<v Speaker 12>over a week, and the rest of the time we

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<v Speaker 12>just sigure out and the buffet try and all the

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<v Speaker 12>different foods, so I put it on.

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<v Speaker 41>A count.

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<v Speaker 30>Yeah yeah, no world.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey mate, thanks for picking up the phone today and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get our listeners to ring in with their favorite

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<v Speaker 2>Australian film clips from back in the day. Good on

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<v Speaker 2>your mate, give a cuddle for me and we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>you around. Hey, all the best mate, See mate. James

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<v Speaker 2>Morley was in the Angels for All, played bass in

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<v Speaker 2>the Angels and there's a heavy rocker when he needs

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<v Speaker 2>to be. One double three eighty two is the phone number.

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<v Speaker 2>Love to hear from you today. Those great music videos,

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<v Speaker 2>the Australian music videos that was That was the quintessential one,

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't it. Jail Break by ac DC was good and

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<v Speaker 2>funny so bad it was good as well, you know, rifles, sirens,

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<v Speaker 2>they were chasing. He made it out with the bullet

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<v Speaker 2>in his back, all of that great Australian rock music,

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<v Speaker 2>film clips and videos. Love to hear from you today,

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<v Speaker 2>Are we okay? Max? To have a chat to our

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<v Speaker 2>man Bruce. Bruce is remote from us today. He's gearing

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<v Speaker 2>up for the big Oliver Peterson OB twenty seven and

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<v Speaker 2>a half minutes past midday, phone lines were open One

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<v Speaker 2>double three eight two the great Australian rock videos. Love

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<v Speaker 2>to hear from You.

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<v Speaker 42>Got a breakdown on Armadale Road eastbound at Solomon Road

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<v Speaker 42>in jandercont The left hand lane is closed by the

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<v Speaker 42>incident response. No traffic delays, just keeping in mind if

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<v Speaker 42>you're hitting that way. Also Emdency Road works on south

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<v Speaker 42>the Western Highway southbound at Third Road in Mount rhiannon

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<v Speaker 42>left hand lane closed with Western Power on side. Apart

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<v Speaker 42>from that though, no delays on the Mitchell Guanana Graham

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<v Speaker 42>Farmer Northbridge Tunnel in the CBD or the Metro. I'm

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<v Speaker 42>Bruce Willshan, Perth's traffic Leader six PR.

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<v Speaker 2>The Melbourne City Council are looking to reboot, reheat, rehash

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<v Speaker 2>the classic ac DC film clip from back or from

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<v Speaker 2>fifty years ago. It's a long way to the top

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<v Speaker 2>on the back of a flatbed truck. So will the

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<v Speaker 2>boys be up for it? There are older fellows these days.

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<v Speaker 2>Will Brian Johnson want to do it? We'll angus want

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<v Speaker 2>to do it. So we're chasing your thoughts today. Song

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<v Speaker 2>classic Australian rock songs, the videos. We're after the videos

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<v Speaker 2>if we can. It's a twenty eight and a half

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<v Speaker 2>minutes to one o'clock. Let's take pause. Let's go to

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<v Speaker 2>our newsroom. John Nichols, Good afternoon.

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<v Speaker 43>Hey, here's Simon. Good afternoon. The state go government has

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<v Speaker 43>announced Thursday's budget will include twenty four million dollars for

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<v Speaker 43>new hospital beds in the Northern suburbs. Sixty new beds

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<v Speaker 43>will fill the remaining empty floors of the new K

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<v Speaker 43>Block at journal Up Health Campus, bringing the building's capacity

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<v Speaker 43>to just over one hundred. A seventeen year old boy

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<v Speaker 43>has died after his car collided with a truck in

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<v Speaker 43>the Midwest. Police say he was driving on Brand Highway

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<v Speaker 43>about fifty kilometers south of Geraldon when it's Toyota Corolla

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<v Speaker 43>collided with a truck about half past three yesterday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 43>Lake Munger is now known as carl Up, its original

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<v Speaker 43>Wadjak nunga name that means place where the home fires burn.

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<v Speaker 43>The town of Vincent says the final endorsement required to

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<v Speaker 43>implement the change has been received from the Geographic Names Committee.

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<v Speaker 43>There was going to be a five year transition period

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<v Speaker 43>for the new name, but after community consultation, the vibe

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<v Speaker 43>was no, don't worry about it, so they're changing it now. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 43>exactly Betteran Dockers Michael Walters and Jageromr are likely to

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<v Speaker 43>make their football returns this weekend. Coach just Alongma says

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<v Speaker 43>he hopes to see them both line up in the Waffle.

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<v Speaker 43>Still know Alex Pearce for this Thursday's match against Essendon.

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<v Speaker 43>He needs at least another week to get over a

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<v Speaker 43>shin injury. Eighteen degrees at the airport showers increasing today

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<v Speaker 43>down to twelve overnight showers and twenty one tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 40>More news at one.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks John, Do you have a classic Australian rock film

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<v Speaker 2>clip that you liked?

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<v Speaker 43>I always used to like watching Metal as Anything's video efforts,

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<v Speaker 43>and I particularly enjoyed Berserk Warriors, the one about Abba you.

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<v Speaker 2>Got that somat Thank you, John, very very good. Here

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<v Speaker 2>we Go Again is very happy mutilation, stray song, mutilation, jubilation,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's about a lovely weird set of blokes as

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<v Speaker 2>a collective. Martin Plaza. What did Regiemond Bassa say? Were they?

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<v Speaker 2>Mombass is my original family name. The rest of my

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<v Speaker 2>family will change their names. What's what's his original names?

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<v Speaker 2>It will come to me It's Donahue, could be thinks

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<v Speaker 2>Donahue something like that. Thank you, John, very very good choice.

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<v Speaker 2>Berserk Warriors by Mental as Anything. A great film clip,

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<v Speaker 2>a song about a good work John Ben gooday.

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<v Speaker 38>Yeah mate, rest of my family wish I have adopted.

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<v Speaker 32>Sorry all good mate.

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<v Speaker 38>This song's around about eighty one. I think I love

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<v Speaker 38>the paranoia in the clip. There was men at work

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<v Speaker 38>who could have been now. I used to have a

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<v Speaker 38>lot of mates were big fans of the Late night

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<v Speaker 38>dropping and yeah, I could relate related a lot to

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<v Speaker 38>this clip. So yeah, it was a beauty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it was. And Colin Hayes look and his eyes

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<v Speaker 2>were perfect for this song. With him, we had the

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<v Speaker 2>those opposing the opposite ends of the eyeball spectrum thing

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<v Speaker 2>going on?

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<v Speaker 25>How's that going?

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<v Speaker 38>Without the mates dropping in?

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<v Speaker 2>Here has been? Yeah? What a song? What a song

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<v Speaker 2>George and the Dragons have on Sunday Session. How good

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<v Speaker 2>knocking sound? What I'm being?

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<v Speaker 27>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Good video. We're after the classic Australian videos. Melbourne City

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<v Speaker 2>Council are considering rebooting, rehashing, remaking. It's a long way

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<v Speaker 2>to the top. On the back of the flatbed truck.

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<v Speaker 7>Get a Troy, Hey, Samon Montelle, are you sir?

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<v Speaker 2>Good Troy, how are you.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey your Friday mate Murphy. Do you think he'll be

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<v Speaker 7>able to find that new place he's got to.

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<v Speaker 34>Go to now?

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<v Speaker 2>You never know, you know, hope, Hope springs eternal with

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<v Speaker 2>Murphy usually usually usually on time and on budget, and those.

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<v Speaker 7>Chairs as well. You were talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Memory, doesn't it does Troy?

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<v Speaker 28>Mine is.

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<v Speaker 15>Jimmy Man.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, and he's I would looking remembering the video clip Simon.

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<v Speaker 7>I was in a I reckon was in front of

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<v Speaker 7>he was singing in front of a steel words fairness

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<v Speaker 7>and I would classic as his very own personal sauna,

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<v Speaker 7>and I reckon it would have been bloody heart.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I do remember flames in it. Mate.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was a cane field, but maybe it

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<v Speaker 2>was a maybe it was. I could be wrong. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>have a look. I'll have a look while we're playing it.

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<v Speaker 7>It's still bloody art Yes man by Jimmy Varn. Thanks

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<v Speaker 7>so many.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, thanks Troy, Troy from Collie.

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<v Speaker 22>Matts.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you see the video there? I can try and

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<v Speaker 2>find it for you. No, that's all right, that's we're

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<v Speaker 2>just trying to because we are talking about the videos today,

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<v Speaker 2>the film clips, as we used to call them. There

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<v Speaker 2>was Flames that plenty, wasn't that Troy, Thank you, Hello, Melanie,

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<v Speaker 2>Hi Simon.

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<v Speaker 24>Not so much video clips, but Russell Markay's extravagant ones

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<v Speaker 24>back in the early agies. They were pretty cool, but

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<v Speaker 24>not on that topic. Having James one was nice to

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<v Speaker 24>hear James and just made me think of I went

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<v Speaker 24>to Woolies in swan View last week and over their

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<v Speaker 24>store radio they were playing the Angels song Am I

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<v Speaker 24>ever going to see Your Face again? And as an

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<v Speaker 24>original Boga girl, I've got to say I'm very disappointed

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<v Speaker 24>in the swan View locals. They were along happening in

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<v Speaker 24>the store.

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<v Speaker 2>No rejoinders, no that yeah, I would be. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think when the Angels put that together, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>they ever thought that it would be played in the Woolies.

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<v Speaker 24>Well I suppose that's the the age we're at now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't know you from Boga. Yeah originally bloody

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<v Speaker 2>good on you. Where do you live now?

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<v Speaker 15>Now?

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<v Speaker 24>I'm in Bullsbrook.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh fancy just as bog but country Bogan. Thanks Milany,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, Melanie, very very good.

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<v Speaker 41>Here it is.

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<v Speaker 21>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a song about heartbreak. It's a lament with rejoinders.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Mel, good on you. I remember this one, Gary,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you.

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<v Speaker 5>Good?

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<v Speaker 41>Simon? I think it's Max, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah Max. This is Gary Gary Max.

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<v Speaker 34>Hello, God, Hey my ones? Yeah tied Moray Gang from

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<v Speaker 34>the Wonderful Out the Production Company clip. I remember.

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<v Speaker 25>I'm pretty sure it's a countdown right.

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<v Speaker 38>They're on a barge in front of the opera house,

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<v Speaker 38>so they'll be magnifs. Anyway, no crosses to this young

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<v Speaker 38>hitch trying to get in the car, because that's.

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<v Speaker 34>A classic song. Dinglish doesn't start that.

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<v Speaker 25>That's giving Thanks mate, that's a jolly good day.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Gary. Yeah, no spoilers, but get out of my

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<v Speaker 2>Car eighty miles or something was the Gary get out

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<v Speaker 2>of my Car. Seed Murray another one of those English

2:28:23.840 --> 2:28:26.400
<v Speaker 2>artists who did really well in Australia, John Paul Young

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<v Speaker 2>and John English, all the Pommy Boys from ac DC

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<v Speaker 2>or the Scottish Boys. A lot of Pomi artists went

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<v Speaker 2>really well in Australia, didn't they because of Countdown? Thanks Gary,

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<v Speaker 2>Jump in my car.

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<v Speaker 17>I want to take.

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<v Speaker 1>Jump in my car. It's a battle walk on your own.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, no, thank you sir. The boys doing female

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<v Speaker 2>backing vocals there. Thanks gas very good at nomination.

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<v Speaker 27>Get a todd they Bowie.

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<v Speaker 41>Yeah nothing, no better country Bogan than Cawgooley mate, the

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<v Speaker 41>Blue Sky Mining we got all song.

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<v Speaker 28>It was there that day.

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<v Speaker 41>They actually came and had some beers in our pub

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<v Speaker 41>after after they did some filming. It was bloody hot.

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<v Speaker 41>It was north of forty degrees. Yeah, right, so and

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<v Speaker 41>the Fibergade, the Fibergade played them fire the posers into

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<v Speaker 41>the air to get the rain when the rain came down.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, in the end the rain comes down.

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<v Speaker 41>Yeah, that was the Fibergade, our mates, that the Fibergade

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<v Speaker 41>and Cawgary did that, and and look it was you know,

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<v Speaker 41>it was a great moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a good song. And I know you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean they obviously wouldn't been able to go to Whitney

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<v Speaker 2>home Mamatee would have bellowd in the in the place

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<v Speaker 2>back then, I suppose it would have closed town. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's a cool story, mate. So what what mine did

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<v Speaker 2>they use that all those sort of backdrops with the

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<v Speaker 2>tailings in the background. Where was that?

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<v Speaker 41>Yeah, well there's I mean back then this is early

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<v Speaker 41>nineties Calgoli, yep, so there was there was still plenty

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<v Speaker 41>of old sort of structures around the joint that they

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<v Speaker 41>would have been able to get in and around. They're

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<v Speaker 41>all gone. Now it's a big hole on the ground

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<v Speaker 41>thanks to Alan Bond.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, big super pit, isn't it, The big super pit.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They swallowed up the pub, did one of the pubs,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't it?

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 41>The bolder block, which was a ripper, you know it was.

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<v Speaker 41>They pulled it down brick by brick and the it

2:30:34.920 --> 2:30:36.280
<v Speaker 41>was always the story was that they were going to

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<v Speaker 41>rebuild it somewhere, but that was never going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I do remember that. I remember going there once.

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<v Speaker 2>So I did a Hash House Harriers run in Cawgooley

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<v Speaker 2>Toler and we ran about four meters and yeah, we probably.

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<v Speaker 41>Came into our pub because we our pub was a

2:30:51.520 --> 2:30:53.400
<v Speaker 41>regular stop off for the Hash House Harriers.

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<v Speaker 2>He probably did. Yeah, probably served you, Bud, Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 2>probably did, Matey. Thanks for the memory. Thanksus. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>great story. I didn't realize Blue Sky min Mining was

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<v Speaker 2>filmed in in cal rip A yarn. Mate. Thanks Todd,

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<v Speaker 2>have a good day. Thanks for ring this not all,

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<v Speaker 2>but thank you cheers. Mate. Here we go, Skye Bye sky.

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<v Speaker 1>The start Harpers Black to the shareholders.

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<v Speaker 2>How good it's Blue Sky Mining filming cow Hello Chantell,

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<v Speaker 2>Hello Bowie, how are you going very well? Thank you?

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<v Speaker 13>That's good.

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<v Speaker 44>My nomination is solid Rock by Gowenna.

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<v Speaker 2>What's good about the video? Remind me?

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<v Speaker 44>To be honest, I don't really remember the video. I

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<v Speaker 44>just remember the song and probably I can credit it

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<v Speaker 44>to my passion hearing it when I was younger, and yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 44>Brifally looks at the video clip.

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<v Speaker 2>Chantel, you don't like you. You run a video segment

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<v Speaker 2>and you can't remember it. Jes funny, chentil good see

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<v Speaker 2>all the very best. Here we go. Chantelle is not

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<v Speaker 2>following instructions today, but that's okay. We're after the great

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<v Speaker 2>Australian videos, video clips. What do we used to call them?

2:32:51.560 --> 2:32:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Film clips? Music? Film clips is what we used to

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<v Speaker 2>call them back in the day, didn't we. Conor McGovern

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<v Speaker 2>joins us now from Forest Place. He's been at the

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<v Speaker 2>State of Origin function. Hollo, Connor, how are you.

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<v Speaker 6>Mateod morning Simon. It's all afternoon now, I believe. But

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<v Speaker 6>there's plenty of plenty of people coming down to see

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<v Speaker 6>the Blues in the Marines in Forest Place, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that's it's your game. Is it right? You're a

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<v Speaker 2>rugby league, won't you? That's your code?

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<v Speaker 41>Man.

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<v Speaker 6>I love all sports, to be honest, mate, I love

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<v Speaker 6>I love West Coast it's top right now. But I

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<v Speaker 6>do love my rugby league. I love my rugby union,

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<v Speaker 6>I love my cricket. You name it, mate, I'm feel

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<v Speaker 6>like I'm in the same bat. It's plenty of West

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<v Speaker 6>of these weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't take funny love watching sport. Don't take this the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong way. Is one broadcast, it's another. But you've pulled

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<v Speaker 2>on a bit of a rugby league voice.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm probably said. I don't know. I don't know

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<v Speaker 6>whether it's taking as a compliment or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Luck, it's still there. I love me rugby league. Hey mate,

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<v Speaker 2>is it dry down there? And what's tell us who

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<v Speaker 2>the captains are and what they have to say?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's dry at the moment, but apparently it's not

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<v Speaker 6>going to be staying that way for very long. I

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<v Speaker 6>think we're going to get a fair bit of a

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<v Speaker 6>rain tonight and anywhere between about sixteen and thirty MILS,

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<v Speaker 6>so I don't know how opt to stay. Hem is

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<v Speaker 6>going to be able to cope. I think there's about

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<v Speaker 6>four or five games this week, between two Aussie Rules,

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<v Speaker 6>two AFL games and two NRL games. It's going to

2:34:13.760 --> 2:34:15.200
<v Speaker 6>be putting it under a fair bit of stress. But

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<v Speaker 6>as you said, we're down here. The captains are coming

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<v Speaker 6>in shortly, so we've got isaiaho and Nathan Cleary from

2:34:21.879 --> 2:34:24.680
<v Speaker 6>the Blues as well as the coaches Billy Slater for

2:34:24.800 --> 2:34:28.080
<v Speaker 6>Queensland and Cam Munster for the Marines. And I think

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<v Speaker 6>again they're going to be right beside each other, which

2:34:30.520 --> 2:34:31.840
<v Speaker 6>is actually it almost seems like a bit of a

2:34:31.920 --> 2:34:33.680
<v Speaker 6>boxing bout. So we'll wait to see what they have

2:34:33.800 --> 2:34:35.920
<v Speaker 6>to say, but we know that the game's on the

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<v Speaker 6>line for Queensland here, so expecting them to come out

2:34:38.560 --> 2:34:39.840
<v Speaker 6>pretty pretty harshly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you think so. W Given Slater's you know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>elite before elite player has been an elite coach, you

2:34:46.879 --> 2:34:49.280
<v Speaker 2>think he's going to turn it around. Great to have

2:34:49.360 --> 2:34:51.400
<v Speaker 2>a live fixture too, mate, isn't it not have the

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<v Speaker 2>dead Rubbo? This is good?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, exactly right. This is and people are turning out

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<v Speaker 6>for it. West Elsis are turning out for it, and

2:34:58.200 --> 2:35:00.560
<v Speaker 6>people are also flying over for it. To a couple

2:35:00.600 --> 2:35:03.840
<v Speaker 6>of brothers from Brisbane. They were in sequin dresses, so

2:35:04.000 --> 2:35:05.960
<v Speaker 6>you'll be able to see that tonight and see why

2:35:06.040 --> 2:35:08.560
<v Speaker 6>they're wearing that. But also spoke to a Keywek girl

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<v Speaker 6>yesterday who flew over from from Auckland, spent eight hours

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<v Speaker 6>and five grand getting her a daughter and her mother

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<v Speaker 6>over here just so she can watch this, as you said,

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<v Speaker 6>this live game. So it's it's all on the line

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<v Speaker 6>for Queensland and if New South Wales win tomorrow it's

2:35:22.760 --> 2:35:25.400
<v Speaker 6>they wrapped the series up. So Billy Slater, I think

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<v Speaker 6>he probably got out coached a little bit in that

2:35:28.480 --> 2:35:30.959
<v Speaker 6>first game. I think it'd be fair to say so again.

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<v Speaker 6>Hopefully he's got a few things up his sleeve this time.

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<v Speaker 6>It'll make for a firecracker event tomorrow night.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think so. He's Hale is a Latrell playing.

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<v Speaker 6>Latrell will be there. He was down at training this morning,

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<v Speaker 6>so the Blues had their first run on up to

2:35:45.120 --> 2:35:49.720
<v Speaker 6>stadium this morning. Honestly, seeing Latrell Mitchell up close and

2:35:49.800 --> 2:35:52.960
<v Speaker 6>personal is a sight to behold. I'm a pretty tall bloke,

2:35:53.080 --> 2:35:56.480
<v Speaker 6>but he's as tall as me. But he's just absolutely

2:35:56.680 --> 2:35:59.520
<v Speaker 6>built like a I don't want to say a brick

2:35:59.560 --> 2:36:00.440
<v Speaker 6>something a.

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<v Speaker 2>Brecka blution block. Yeah, he's a massive, isn't he? And

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<v Speaker 2>and can win a game and he's I was reading

2:36:07.680 --> 2:36:09.640
<v Speaker 2>somewhere Connor. He hasn't done any media this year for

2:36:09.760 --> 2:36:13.000
<v Speaker 2>South Sydney or for New South Wales. So he's letting

2:36:13.040 --> 2:36:15.240
<v Speaker 2>his letting his feet do the talking or reckond. Hey Connor,

2:36:15.320 --> 2:36:17.520
<v Speaker 2>good good to talk and I look forward to hearing

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<v Speaker 2>you back with your your political voice next time we chat.

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<v Speaker 6>I'd switched between the.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks he did he turned into a rugby league player.

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<v Speaker 2>The didn't he? Conor McGovern what I rip out? He's

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<v Speaker 2>in forest place and look it wouldn't have gone. We've

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<v Speaker 2>got Mark Levy in the building today. Mart Levy over

2:36:38.920 --> 2:36:40.960
<v Speaker 2>from from Sydney and he said to me, how come

2:36:40.959 --> 2:36:43.560
<v Speaker 2>there's no rugby league in the paper? Here's none? You

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<v Speaker 2>got a State of Origin match and the zero column

2:36:46.160 --> 2:36:47.440
<v Speaker 2>sent to me he's in the paper. I said, why

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<v Speaker 2>do you reckon?

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<v Speaker 42>Mate?

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you reckon? That is marking me all being.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll come back in a seconds. Eleven minutes to one o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>You're asking you the listeners for your favorite Australian film clip.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about videos today or film video film quips from

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<v Speaker 2>Back in the Day, Melbourne City councilor considering rehashing, rebooting,

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<v Speaker 2>reheating The Long Way to the Top film blit by

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<v Speaker 2>ac DC Ilo Re Peterson is at the Crown Sports

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<v Speaker 2>Bar joins us now to preview the show today.

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<v Speaker 27>Ali hiddo, Bowie, I'm about twelve pints deep.

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<v Speaker 15>No, you.

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<v Speaker 27>Don't worry about that. Never have a ber when you're

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<v Speaker 27>on here, don't worry.

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<v Speaker 14>I just thought i'd tell you because I'm looking at

2:37:25.360 --> 2:37:28.440
<v Speaker 14>the Crown Sports Bar there it looks rather inviting. And

2:37:28.480 --> 2:37:30.520
<v Speaker 14>always drink responsibly and if you do come down, you

2:37:30.560 --> 2:37:33.520
<v Speaker 14>can get a drinks about you from Taz. Say go

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<v Speaker 14>today you could win yourself a two nights day here

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<v Speaker 14>at the Crown Metropol or even win yourself some State

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<v Speaker 14>of Origin tickets.

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<v Speaker 2>But tomorrow night, Bowie, gee, you get all the prizes,

2:37:42.200 --> 2:37:47.879
<v Speaker 2>don't you. Boss's favorite bloke, So each is pat I'll.

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<v Speaker 20>Tell you what.

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<v Speaker 14>And the lineup this afternoon, Andrew John's, Bill gul Paul Gallon,

2:37:53.879 --> 2:37:56.840
<v Speaker 14>malm Ninger, They're all coming down here to the Crown

2:37:56.879 --> 2:37:59.240
<v Speaker 14>Sports but Habit Chat and they'll be live on six

2:37:59.320 --> 2:38:01.000
<v Speaker 14>PR throughout the end afternoon unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>You've done well, mate, You and the production team done well.

2:38:02.959 --> 2:38:06.560
<v Speaker 2>That's a that's a great line up from one till five.

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<v Speaker 2>So people can just turn up you set up in

2:38:08.959 --> 2:38:10.640
<v Speaker 2>the corner, have a chat. They can hear you, they

2:38:10.680 --> 2:38:12.280
<v Speaker 2>can see you, come up and give you a care.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, yeah, correct, absolutely do all of that and more so.

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<v Speaker 14>We're down here at the Crown Sports Bar. Come and say,

2:38:17.800 --> 2:38:20.000
<v Speaker 14>good ay, it won't just be will the Wall Rugby League,

2:38:20.000 --> 2:38:21.360
<v Speaker 14>don't worry about that, will be covering a lot of

2:38:21.400 --> 2:38:24.160
<v Speaker 14>the news of the day. And we'll even trying it

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<v Speaker 14>over to Calgary at one stage, where Michael Paki, our

2:38:27.720 --> 2:38:31.520
<v Speaker 14>national political editor, finds himself. Now without Donald Trump, of course,

2:38:31.520 --> 2:38:33.880
<v Speaker 14>he's flowing back to Washington. So what's Elbow going to

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<v Speaker 14>do tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 25>He was going to talk to Trump.

2:38:35.680 --> 2:38:37.600
<v Speaker 27>Well, anybody else want to have a chat to him?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, well I'm going to let you know legit reason,

2:38:40.520 --> 2:38:42.840
<v Speaker 2>I guess for mister Trump to leave to the address

2:38:42.879 --> 2:38:45.480
<v Speaker 2>the Middle East issue. But yeah, that's a shame. We

2:38:45.600 --> 2:38:48.120
<v Speaker 2>needed that chat on the Tariff's no doubt, HEYLI. I'll

2:38:48.120 --> 2:38:49.959
<v Speaker 2>be listening the cyber mate, go well, break a leg,

2:38:50.840 --> 2:38:53.400
<v Speaker 2>get on your boy, see mate, Olli Peterson at the

2:38:53.400 --> 2:38:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Crown Sports Bar. Goody Allen, hey go, I'm and how

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<v Speaker 2>are you good? Mate?

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<v Speaker 41>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 25>And if the skyhooks. I used to like watching horror

2:39:05.120 --> 2:39:07.360
<v Speaker 25>moving and all that sort of stuff through the film clip.

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<v Speaker 25>But what I was ringing about that lady earlier on

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<v Speaker 25>and spoke about the angels, I'm ever going to see

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<v Speaker 25>your face again?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 25>Did you know it wasn't their song?

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<v Speaker 15>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>I did not it?

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<v Speaker 25>Yeah, if you if you listened, because I was listening

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<v Speaker 25>to Spotify a few weeks ago and I thought, now

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<v Speaker 25>what should I put on?

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<v Speaker 41>And thought, oh, I listened to a bit.

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<v Speaker 25>Of status quote and then you pick an album sort

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<v Speaker 25>of thing, and the thought, oh, yeah, I used to

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<v Speaker 25>play in the band a long time ago. We hued

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<v Speaker 25>to play a bit of quote for well, I'll put

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<v Speaker 25>up the quote. Album itself is self titled, and it

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<v Speaker 25>was like an extended version. And after the normal song's finished,

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<v Speaker 25>this song came on called Lonely Nights. Straight away, I

2:39:44.320 --> 2:39:47.400
<v Speaker 25>thought that is so familiar, and bang, I googled it

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<v Speaker 25>and yeah, sure enough it's the same song.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's it's called Lonely Nights? Lonely Nights yep, Lonely

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<v Speaker 2>Nights from.

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<v Speaker 25>My status Quo of the album, but the extended once,

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<v Speaker 25>not in the one I've got. But yeah, so on

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<v Speaker 25>Google I read it and sure enough, Alan Lancaster was

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<v Speaker 25>out of the bass player out of Status Quo. Was

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<v Speaker 25>good friends with the Bruce Brothers from the Angels and

2:40:14.600 --> 2:40:19.240
<v Speaker 25>he played formed with the Brewsters Party Boys and yeah,

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<v Speaker 25>so they were kind of like mates. So they didn't

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<v Speaker 25>sue him, but they they get royalties from the Angels.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've never heard that.

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<v Speaker 25>Yeah, it's like an answer to Australian music.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like, yeah, no way, yeah, well yeah, just

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<v Speaker 2>looking at just looking on my phone. Status Quo subsequently

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<v Speaker 2>received rorty for the song, So spot on, mate, I

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<v Speaker 2>had no idea. Thanks allan, cheers mate.

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<v Speaker 25>But yeah, play for the listeners would be good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, thanks mate. We've played a bit of it already.

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<v Speaker 2>Lonely Night by Status Quo.

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<v Speaker 27>Steve Good Steve, this is going to be a weird

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<v Speaker 27>one for you or painters and dockers are all going

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<v Speaker 27>to nude school.

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<v Speaker 2>What was it was the video? I remember seeing him

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<v Speaker 2>live and they used to get the kid off. Did

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<v Speaker 2>they the same in the video.

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<v Speaker 36>It's flame in the video.

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<v Speaker 41>I still remember the drummer. You can say he's They

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<v Speaker 41>kept on going to his backside, but they had a

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<v Speaker 41>strategically positioned instruments.

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<v Speaker 2>They did see and Steve from memory. They had a

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<v Speaker 2>fire eader on stage, so there were no naked and

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<v Speaker 2>there was a bloke with a breathing fire on stage

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<v Speaker 2>as well, which is I don't think, yeah, those those

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<v Speaker 2>two contents shouldn't really mix it. I think we're all cheers, mate,

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<v Speaker 2>We're all going to nude school pans and dockers. They're

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<v Speaker 2>all happy at nuds sorry at the Old Melbourne. Quite

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<v Speaker 2>a night. Three and a half minutes to one o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>Back in a second, Yes, no, Poul, Have vapes won

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<v Speaker 2>the War on vapes? Ninety three yeses and six nos.

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<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow we call the the day Today is Rob. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>Rob Tomorrow. On the show, Basil's Simpless, Leo Sayer and

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<v Speaker 2>so