1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: This is the Real Footy Podcast. Thanks for joining us 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: to tip around fourt eight. My name's Andrew wou and 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: today welcome back my old sparring partner Peter Ryan Fresh 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: for a week off in Canberra. 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: Well, I spent the weekend in Canberra visiting my daughter, 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 2: which was good, but I also went to Manica Oval 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: and watched that game between Port Adelaide and the Giants, 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 2: which reminded me how threadbare the Giants are in their midfield. 9 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 2: Tom Green he's a great player, but beyond that they 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: had Xavier O'Halloran who is emerging as a very good player. 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: But they had to run locky midfield anyway, They're depleted 12 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: and Port Adelaide got them. So that was my excitement 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: in camera, and I. 14 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: Heard you explain to all that to your families. All 15 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: you dragged them out to Barnica. 16 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: Dragged my wife there, but my daughter actually I was 17 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 2: visiting her, but she went into a band. 18 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: You couldn't tempt her the footy with the deficiencies of 19 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: the Giants midfield, and I got to. 20 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: Say my wife wasn't particularly interested either, but went along 21 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: and we had a good night. And the Giants they 22 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: got twelve or ten or eleven thousand there, I think, well, 23 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: they are expecting that. I haven't actually checked the crowd, 24 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: but there's a reasonable atmosphere and it was not a 25 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: great game. 26 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: It's a good place for footy actually, but you're. 27 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 2: Sitting right on top of them. It felt like a 28 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: it's a country footy game a little bit. 29 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: I've covered a Test match there was. 30 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: That the one where Curtison, yeah made. 31 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: A one hundred looked a million dollars and then it 32 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: hasn't played since. 33 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: So anyway, No, it's good, good to be back. 34 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: Well in your time off, you're still in second. Michael 35 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: Gleason still learning on seventy nine. You're on seventy eight, 36 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: Calum and Callum's third on seventy seven, Jakes on seventy five. 37 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: I've made a bit of a move. I've collected a 38 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: few stragglers in the last couple of weeks, so I'm 39 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: equal fifth with Mark McGowan and Jimmy Bartel. And I've 40 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: been told I'm going to include this joke by the 41 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: producer that the three premierships of Browlowe and an All 42 00:01:58,600 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: Smith medal between us. 43 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good, and at what level you guys you 44 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: listeners can decide who wants jim Is in the Hall 45 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: of Fame, isn't it. 46 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm not sure he should be. 47 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: I've got a feeling he might be, but may not be, 48 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 2: but he should be at some point. It's certainly a 49 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 2: champion player and probably, let's say, a thousand times better 50 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: footballers than either of. 51 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: You, exactly exactly a thousand miles. 52 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 2: I was sted on Friday night because I was away, 53 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: but Zach Bailey that Brisbane Adelaide game was a bit Yeah, 54 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: I would have been a head aglaesi if he kicked straight. 55 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: You're putting it on him. Yeah. At the same game 56 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: I took the lines as well. He's a good player 57 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: and he just yeah, they all bottled it. 58 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, they bothered it, didn't they. 59 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: They had that game that was sixty three goals up, 60 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: the last three goals inside. 61 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: Fifties a Brisbane gosh, another reason to kind of you know, 62 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 2: you don't want the reigning premiere going back to back, 63 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: do you really? 64 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: Unless your club you when I said that last year, But. 65 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: I know I respect Brisbane, but just as a general principle, 66 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: you'd prefer its spread and shared around a bit. 67 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: Well, it depends on which other clubs are in the contention. 68 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: Good effort from Adelaide, but it's getting tougher. I reckon, Yeah, 69 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: I reckon. The last few weeks it's been like fives 70 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: and six's has been a passable score, whereas you want 71 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: to get up to the sevens and eighths RECOI are 72 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: you taking a risk? I know there's been less teams playing, 73 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: I get less games. I get that, but it's still 74 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: been tough. 75 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: Well that's the key. I mean, you don't want to 76 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: be tipping favorites everywhere because if you tip all eight 77 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: or nine favorites, you generally don't get it right. But 78 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: the art and tipping is to find the underdog that 79 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: gets up because you can tip the wrong ones and 80 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: then suddenly you get four and everyone's got seven and 81 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: you got a lot of work to do. 82 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: How do you go? By the way, just before you 83 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: start getting back from Geelong, broke down just. 84 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: Past the Little River Road exit. Ah, that's great. The 85 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: last I saw my car when I jumped in the cab, 86 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: it was sitting just on the emergency lane on the 87 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: Princess Highway, just past the Little River Road. 88 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: When you come a name from a cold Gold Coast loss. 89 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: You know, there was a great game of footy though 90 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: Geelong and Gold Coast to cover. I just spent the 91 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: last spent the three hours waiting in the car reminiscing 92 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: Abou one of the best games of the seasons. 93 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 2: Well, make Shames was pretty good. 94 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: He was very good. We'll get into that later. First 95 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: game of the round Saint Kilda against the Western Bulldogs 96 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: at Marvel Stadium Thursday night footy. The Saints have got 97 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: a the terrible record against the Bulldogs recently, but this 98 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: is one of the Bulldogs have to win because as 99 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: well as they've traveled this year as well, they've played 100 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: at times they lose this. They're six and seven and 101 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: they'll be out of the eight by a game or so, 102 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: so trouble for them if they don't get up. 103 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 2: I very much agree with you. I'm tipping the Bulldogs. 104 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: They've got Sam Darcy back, your. 105 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: Man Sam Darcy, your number ten pick or whatever. 106 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: He was a bit of a miracle he's back so early. 107 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: I hope it goes well for him. Yeah, they just 108 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: have to win because I think the reality of the 109 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 2: Bulldogs is they're now in a fight for the top 110 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: eight as much as the top four, and they've been 111 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 2: good enough to be extremely competitive against good teams without 112 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 2: necessarily getting the four points, and then they had a 113 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: low point last week, but it leaves them vulnerable in 114 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: these games you just can't afford to lose. 115 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: Well, they're one and six now against the teams in 116 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: the top eight, and I mean there was a lot 117 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: of talk last week about after the game the other 118 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: the dogs too reliant on clearance and whatever, But in 119 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: the end, that's over analysis. They just had one bad 120 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: quarter and they couldn't catch up for the rest of 121 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: the night. 122 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: So I agree with that, and they let wedd All 123 00:05:58,440 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 2: go a bit mental. 124 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: He had a good game, didn't he. He's a good 125 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: player to watch, but he's got power, isn't he take 126 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: a market a great kick? But that was classic team 127 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: coming off the buy against another team that was revd 128 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: up for the game. So we saw that difference in 129 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: the first quarter, but after that it was pretty oven. 130 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: Rory Lobb, is he a bit of forward or a defender? 131 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 2: Well, he's a bit of defender. 132 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: It was all right forward. 133 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: He's become a reliable player, which is something that you 134 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 2: wouldn't have said about Rory Lobb. 135 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: He's become a reliable player, something that you never. 136 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm not that who cares what you were? 137 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 2: No no, but you're right. 138 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: He has become a reliable player. It happens, We're going 139 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: to happens a lot when forwards move into defense. It's 140 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: probably an easy position to play, but a lot of 141 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,239 Speaker 1: forwards who are sort of up and down as forwards 142 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: moving to defense and become really solid players. 143 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: And Melbourne isn't he He's played for as much a 144 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: stopgap as anything, but he's gone back and show that 145 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: he's got some qualities in jacksonlvas Jack Silvarney justin Leppish 146 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: was the classic one who's recruited as a Ford and 147 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: became a three time premiership Defender's helping more Western Bulldogs get. 148 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: To the winners Bulldogs twenty one points for mate with 149 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: three points. 150 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: Three points, yeah, because Securita are going to strangle the 151 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: life out of him and it'll make it a low 152 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: scoring Well, they have. 153 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: To win contest against the Bulldogs if you're going to 154 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: play that kind of game, because in the I think 155 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: the past two games they've played they've been smacked in 156 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: that area and beaten. 157 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: By coming off confidence building. 158 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: Against Melbourne, who's formed had been pretty good up until then. Okay, 159 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: dogs for mate, Dogs for me. Next game Friday night footy. 160 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: We head down the lawn System where it's going to 161 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: be zero degrees on Friday night, literally zero. Yes, Hawthorne 162 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: against Adelaide. That's what the forecast said. That's a that's 163 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: a forecast low Friday night, so it might be two degrees. 164 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: Sam Mitchell take his top off and run around just 165 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: to show that there's no issue. 166 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, as he press did. 167 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: I think the Hawks will get a lot of confidence 168 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: out of their win against the Bulldogs, and they're very 169 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: hard to beat at lawn Seston. So as much as 170 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: Adelaide a difficult opartner and have beaten them down there, 171 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: I think that Hawthorne will prevail. 172 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: They have won seven on a row lawn Stein Hawthorne 173 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: and you know who they lost to the last time 174 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: to beat. 175 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: Them down there, Adelaide when Riley Tilthorpe, you're. 176 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: Man Adelaide beat them in round six twenty twenty three 177 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: by three points. 178 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that game. It was actually a really 179 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 2: good game. But that is why I'm to be an Adelaide. Sorry, Hawthorne, 180 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: your thoughts can Adelaide get it done. 181 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: I'm tipping the Cries because you can't tip favorites every game. 182 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: There's one of those games where you've got to take 183 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: a bit of a risk, and I'm prepared to take 184 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: a risk on a team that's in the top four 185 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: and as impressive as Hawthorne were last week. I don't 186 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: want to get sucked into thinking think about last week's 187 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: form exclusively because the month leading into that was poor. 188 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: So because of that, I'm seeing last week is more 189 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: of an exception until proven otherwise. So for that reason, 190 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: and because I'm a few behind and I have to 191 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: make some tips up, which a lot of our listeners 192 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: will be as well, that's the reason for tipping Adelaide. 193 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: And Adelaide's form has been pretty good. I mean they 194 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: were I mean maybe a little bit lucky last week, 195 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: but generally against the top teams they have been very competitive. 196 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: They're two and four against the top eight sides. 197 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: Good against They've been good against. 198 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: Push Gould Coast to the wire. I think there may 199 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: have been another performance in there where they are honorable 200 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: and defeat. So I feel their form against the top 201 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: teams has been better than Hawthorns, and their recent form 202 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: has been better than Hawthorns. So I'm tipping Adelaide one. 203 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: Hundred percent agree with you on all those points, except 204 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: that Hawthorne wins lawn system nine times out of ten. 205 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: And this will be the one out of ten, and 206 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: that get up. 207 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: That's fine. I think the Hawks small forwards might worry Adelaide. 208 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: They might worry them, but I don't think they'll beat them. Saturday, 209 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: first game Brisbane again. It's Greater Western Sydney at the Gabba, 210 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: the rematch of what last year's semi final, where the 211 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: Giants really shouldn't have let Brisbane come back, but they did. 212 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: And now the Giants are. They're in a bit of 213 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: a hole, aren't they massive hole? 214 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 2: They're horrendous. 215 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: Well Field tell us about the midfield. They saying that 216 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: your family wouldn't listen to you. 217 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 2: Well, Nick Madam was pretty handy actually playing on daboo. 218 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: But Nick Madam was on Da boo. They had Tom Green, 219 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: as I said, Xavier O'Halloran locky midfield running through there. 220 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 2: Toby Bedford was tagging and was beaten comprehensively. They were 221 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 2: basically playing either second tier players or be greaters to 222 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 2: be if you're. 223 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: Looking with a very good defender, he's not plugging holes 224 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: in the midfield. 225 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 2: And it showed because Butters and Bergmann played a bit 226 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: in there as well, and Drew were too good for 227 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 2: them and Ollie Wines and then they were able to 228 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: keep kind of Rosy just streaming off half back and 229 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 2: he was really good and they didn't have any answer 230 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: for it, particularly after they lost Toby Green, which obviously 231 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: didn't help them. 232 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: That looked, yeah, when we're getting those, I mean, it's 233 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: not serious injury in terms of this, but it's a 234 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: painful one. 235 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: Buttle, yeah, you can't run. He was trying to run 236 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 2: it out and Cadman I Reckon definitely called him back 237 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 2: into that mark and then just did a bit of 238 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: a Matador. It's like, oh mate, what are you doing 239 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: to me? So I Reckon he would have probably apologized 240 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 2: to Taby Green. So for all those reasons that they're depleted, 241 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: their defense held up exceptionally well. Sam Taylor's a great 242 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: play and Jack Buckley's a really good ally to him. 243 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: Jesse Hogan's out of form. You had that great game 244 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: against Jolan, but apart from that hasn't been really hitting 245 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: the scoreboard. Brent Daniels will be handy because he only 246 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: played a second half, but he'll be back. 247 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: In the important to them, your man, he's your man. 248 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: We know that. It was funny. They said that he 249 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 2: had an abdominal injury, that only twenty percent of people 250 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 2: have the particular muscle that he's trained and it took 251 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: them ages to find it. Anyway, what the injury. 252 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: Was not taking while your abs as well? Have they? 253 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: Well I did say that to someone. I said, there's 254 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 2: no muscles defined Brisbane lines. I'm tipping to win. Yeah, 255 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: I'll be smarty mate. They from last. 256 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: Week, well, well, Zach Bailey in particular, you'd hope you'd 257 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: be having extra shots after that. 258 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: Old Bayley, I have a good look at yourself. He's 259 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 2: a great player, so you can't knock him for that, 260 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: and you want to get off his own boot a 261 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: few years back. 262 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: Just had a bad night in front of the sticks. Yeah, 263 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: I think the Lions will win this. The Giants, they're 264 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,239 Speaker 1: just two ue predictable at the moment. 265 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: So unpredictable. I think it'll be a close game, actually, 266 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: but I think Brisbane will win. 267 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: It will be a better Giants performance, but I mean, 268 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: I don't think they've quite got the stability and the 269 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: personnel at the moment, and they're asking their defense to 270 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: do too much. It exactly defending sixty inside fifties every 271 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: week and still expect to keep the other team to 272 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: a losing score. 273 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 2: So when you're trying to move the ball from one 274 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 2: o the other against good teams, good luck. 275 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: Because sixty inside fifties, if they the other team's efficient, 276 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: it's going to be thirty scoring shots. Thirty scoring shots. 277 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 1: You go fifty to fifty, you're kicking over one hundred. 278 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: So for that reason, basic mass tipping the lines. They'll 279 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: be smart enoughter last week as you said, and they're 280 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: hard to beat at the Gabba, so and this will 281 00:13:58,520 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: be one of the games they get themselves up for 282 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: the lines. The games where they let slip this year 283 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: or have underperformed have been against generally the bottom teams. Well, 284 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: I think it's probably a little bit of that maybe 285 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: Premiership hangover stuff where they it doesn't quite matter as 286 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: much to them in those games. But I think the 287 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: matches of consequence like this one will have a different mindset. 288 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 3: So for me, we're online all the time, just search 289 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 3: age real footy on Facebook or Twitter. 290 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: Next game Saturday Twilight against Geelong at the MCG. This 291 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: is that country game. 292 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love this game. What a day on the 293 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: calendar back in particularly being country boys. As we both are. 294 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: Back, get a better time slot for the theme of 295 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: the game. Last year this was a night game which 296 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: didn't really do that. 297 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 2: It doesn't help the dairy farmers. 298 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: Well, nothing really helps them when you're going to get 299 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: up that early. But twilight game is just buy seven's 300 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: on the roads are okay coming out of Melbourne, which 301 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: they weren't this morning Wednesday morning, Then most people should 302 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: be able to get home in a reasonable hour. But 303 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: I think I saw us and the last week watch 304 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: them play there, you can't help but admire the spirit 305 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: in which they're playing with. But they injuries are going 306 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: to catch up with them at some point and they're 307 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: going to turn in a stinker. 308 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'm the I think you're you're right. I 309 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: don't think it'll be this week though. Geelong generally take 310 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: a while to put as soon away, and as. 311 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: You well, the numbers suggest otherwise because their last they've 312 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: won seven in a row against Obama is an average 313 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: margin of fifty points. 314 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 2: It's exactly my point. 315 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: Maybe it takes a while for them to get to that. 316 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 2: Normally it's a hundred point, but I reckon that Geelong. 317 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: This is the sort of game that after a tough 318 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: game against gold Case and the where they just kind 319 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: of cruise into it reaching for the bye, and they're 320 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: going to be challenged. So I think they'll win, but 321 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: I don't think they'll win by a big margin. 322 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: I think this could get ugly this one because I 323 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: think essen in the last two weeks underdogs underman they 324 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: put in really decent shifts, but up against an opponent 325 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: who I think will be there in the last second 326 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: last week at September and a team that just finds 327 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: a way to win every week. Last week against the 328 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: against gold Coaster, I mean they gold Coast challenged them, 329 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: but they were just a bit tougher and harder for longer. 330 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: Jeremy Cameron will won a big one after a bit 331 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: of a quiet game last week and quite last week. 332 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 2: He's done it. He was great for a couple of 333 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: weeks after Dangefield got injured, and then he was quite 334 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: last week. But was that because Dangerfield was back in 335 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: the team. 336 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: I think Mac Andrew is a pretty good player and 337 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: the conditions probably didn't help him. I mean, Dangerfield was 338 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: also quite last week in his first half. 339 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: It's an interesting dynamic those two. 340 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: You can play cavern bit up the ground. A similar 341 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,719 Speaker 1: type of players, aren't they, because they're both nimble at 342 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,719 Speaker 1: ground level can take a mark. But I think Dangerfield 343 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: after that week off last week, probably helps him. I 344 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: think the Cats will win, probably by about six goals. 345 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: But it's Chris and Brad coaching against each other again, 346 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: so yeah, we love that. 347 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: Cats for me, Cats for me easy, eleven points. 348 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: Eleven points. I'm going by six goals plus and I'm 349 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: going to make them my lock. Good Saturday night footy, 350 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: we head West where North Melbourne host Fremantle at OPTAs Stadium. 351 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: This is the second league of their two week swing 352 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: at West Kangaroos. They sold one of their games last 353 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: week and they got the win, so keeps the supporters happy. 354 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: Though I did notice there was a little bit of 355 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: discontent among the North Melbourne community even though they won. 356 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 2: Yeah because the game is terrible one. Yeah, but the 357 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 2: game was shocking and they would have thought they were 358 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 2: further out of West Coast than they were and they 359 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: were probably a bit cranky and wound up in the 360 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 2: first three quarters when it looked like they were going 361 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 2: to lose. I wouldn't exactly do it comfortably, did they? 362 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: One thing I would say Colby mccirche was nearly best 363 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 2: on ground, Harleey Reid had a few critical farm balls 364 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: and from what I remember was North Melbourne were roundly 365 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 2: criticized for winning that game against Gold Coast, which cost 366 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 2: them Harley Reed, or at least cost them the first pick, 367 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 2: which I assume would have been used on Harley Reid, 368 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 2: and they ended up with Colby mccirchey at picked two. 369 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: So in that battle they're one all mccurch's. 370 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: It's good to say him playing well because his form 371 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: in the first six weeks of the year was carbery patchy. 372 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: Going back and he's playing better. 373 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: I still think Harley Read's a better player. 374 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's reasonable because he was pick one 375 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 2: and one was pick two. But when you're actually smashing 376 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: the club, this was one moment when they could say, 377 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: well there you go. 378 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: What to say about how North Melbourne people feel about 379 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: how their team is progressing. When when you've won eighteen 380 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: out of one hundred and nineteen and you can't enjoy 381 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: a victory. That suggests to me that they think their 382 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: teams should be much further advanced than where they are now. 383 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: It's been a long road and they probably promised a 384 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: better performance this year. They would have been hoping for 385 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,959 Speaker 2: at least eight wins and competitive. They've got competitiveness, but 386 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 2: they haven't got the wins, and they were probably lucky 387 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 2: to fall over the line. Well, West Coast are in 388 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: all sorts of trouble, and Richmond they are lucky to 389 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 2: fall over the line too, so it hasn't been exactly 390 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 2: galloping away with it. 391 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: No, but they've won. I mean they only won three 392 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: all of last year and they've already got three now. 393 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: So would they beat Frio I doubt it. The only 394 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: way they can beat three too is if Freemantle a 395 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: slow out of the blocks after the buye. But we 396 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: could happen. It's an experienced team. 397 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 2: They're one of the younger teams actually, but they're better. 398 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 2: They've got more experience and talent and they're at home. 399 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, well they've got more older, Well, they're more experienced. 400 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: Players are better than Norse, so I think they've probably 401 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: got better young talent. But I think Freemantle win this 402 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: even without, even with Alex Pearce as a question mark. 403 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: Their form since or since that bizarre night against Saint 404 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: Kilden where they disgrace themselves, their form has actually have 405 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: been pretty good and. 406 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 2: I think they're starting to move the ball and play 407 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 2: on after taking marks. 408 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: And Brashaw and so wrong back and form exactly twenty 409 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: seven points for me twenty two Richie two Sunday, Put 410 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: Adelaide against Melbourne Adelaide Oval just will be probably a 411 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: game of not too much consequence for the season, but 412 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: highly consequential for our tipping because this is a real 413 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: fifty to fifty game. 414 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 2: Yeah if tip mal but not with any confidence put Adelaide. 415 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: How can you tip in Melbourne? I just think, look 416 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 2: they're starting to get some stability. They were pretty good 417 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 2: against Collingwood, very good. Should have won a couple of 418 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 2: Black Bailey fish brain fades and Cousey Pickett's fifty penalty. 419 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 2: Their planning was really good, Steven May despite the last 420 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: you know post saw an incident was really good. They've 421 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: got stability down back Maxican's star. They should have the 422 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 2: talent to overcome put Adelaide even though it's on put 423 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 2: Adelaide's home deck, and Jack Butter's, Connor Rosi, Miles Bergman 424 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: are outstanding. 425 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: And Jason horn Francis comes back in this week, so. 426 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 2: Which is which is big as well? 427 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: Given the tag I mean that tag Nick day course 428 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: last week that you'd think Zach Butter's probably cops on that. 429 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: That feels like a Clayton all of the job. 430 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 2: More so than ed Langdon really well. Goodwin did make 431 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 2: the point that they're just picking players for particular players. 432 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 2: So Langdon, Viny Rivers, Rivers played on, Haney and Oliver 433 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 2: have all done run with rolls. 434 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: So interesting a chance to be back this week? 435 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 2: He heard his risk in new Nellis Springs. I'm Timmy Melbourne, 436 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 2: but I haven't got a lot of confidence. As I said, 437 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 2: put Adelaide on their home deck are always hard to beat, 438 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 2: well not always, but generally yeah, harder to beat. I 439 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 2: think Melbourn's got the class just again. Can they kick 440 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 2: enough goals? 441 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: Well they will, They'll be wasteful inside fifty who knows. 442 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: I'm tipping the days by goal only because their form 443 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: I think in the last month's been better than Port's 444 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: had lost four in a row before they won last week, 445 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: and maybe that was one of those games coming off 446 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: of Buy where can you have them wound up? And 447 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: they performed accordingly against a team that's been a little 448 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: bit up and down, but the days have been a 449 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: bit more consistent after that first month. 450 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 2: Melbourne have to win these two if there are any 451 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 2: chance to make finals. Do you think, though they're not 452 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: outcome based as we. 453 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: Know, do you think they'll be in a position to 454 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: contend for finals going to the last month. 455 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: I haven't looked at their drawer, but they're a team 456 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 2: that is improving their style of play regardless. 457 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of moments last week though the I 458 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: know we've spoken about Bailey fruits and a couple of 459 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: moments he'd liked to have again. But there was a 460 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: player I think Max Scorn took a mark in the 461 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: last quarter and he hanbled played on they had Melbourne 462 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: had three players around them and they kicked the ball long. 463 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: They should have been able to handle run it out 464 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: of fifty and they had a real chance to score. 465 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: And that was the old Melbourne that under. 466 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: Pressure, that was deep in the back pocket. Oliver also 467 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: kicked down the full just threw it on his boot 468 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: at one point late in the game. They do revert 469 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: back to those old habits, but at least there. 470 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: It's not happening as often and. 471 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 2: They're making in rags. You can see what they're trying 472 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 2: to do, which is good. 473 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, final game of the round, blockbuster West Coast Agatest 474 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: Carlton off the stadium the well, it's not it's a mockbuster, 475 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: but it'll get a bigger crowd than some of the 476 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: other games this round because the Eagles. People love their footage, 477 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 1: because Blues are desperate to see a win. Well they have. 478 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: They have some following it West as well. Now the Eagles, 479 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: can you make a case for them? 480 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can. They've actually played. They're really good against Geelong. 481 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 2: They're unlucky, not unlucky. They just ran our legs against 482 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 2: North Melbourne. And I'd say Carlton fits squarely in the 483 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 2: middle of those two teams in terms of capability. They're 484 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: definitely beatable and they're beatable on the road. They will 485 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 2: lackluster in the last three quarters, they can't finish games 486 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: out terribly well, and they're still working on a game 487 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: style that makes them feel confident that they can just 488 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 2: put away teams like West Coast. I don't think they 489 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 2: are good enough to just go, you know, well, rock up, 490 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 2: implement our game style and Winson win. They need to 491 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: win in those areas we all know with Carnen center, 492 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 2: clearance and contest the ball, and they need the disappointments 493 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 2: up forward to actually turn some of their celebrations into goals. 494 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: Well. I mean the last time they played Gathering, I 495 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: think you might have been at this game. Lowest ever 496 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: contested possession tally by tam West Coast. I think that's seventeen. 497 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: It was a shocking differential of minus fifty nine. 498 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 2: That was when Brady Off was a bit teary after 499 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 2: the game, yep, because he's played in so many losses 500 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 2: that he got a bit emotional about it, which is 501 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 2: fair enough. That's not a criticism, it's just it was 502 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 2: unusual to see. Yeah, I think Carlton will be too 503 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 2: good again because they did toy with West Coast, but 504 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 2: West Coast will be keyed up to not repeat what 505 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: they did in Gathering. 506 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, they surely have to be a bit more competitive. 507 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: I mean the last five times Carton that played West Coast, 508 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: it's an every margin is seventy five points, so that 509 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: they'll be a bit of ammunition for Andrew mccalter to 510 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: fire his players to try and get a better performance. 511 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: But first you said, I think their form has been better. 512 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 1: I mean their last five they've won, one lost too narrowly, 513 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: and they another one they lost and they were in it. 514 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: Three quarter time, So that's they're definitely improving. A few 515 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 2: of those guys. Well, I had to but here it's. 516 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: Good Jimby in defense. 517 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 2: Jimmy has been good in defense. Obviously, Reid's got great talent. 518 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 2: They've got some things that you actually like about them. 519 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: But it'll be inexcusable with Cartlon don't win, especially with 520 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: Waterman out. Who else McGovern's Jimmy McGovern's unable to play 521 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: and do dom so, but there's a few, there's a 522 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 1: few in there who if. 523 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 2: They win, they may as well book a flight to 524 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 2: watch the last couple of days of the Test match 525 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 2: or head to the US Open. Don't come Monday, is 526 00:26:59,320 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 2: that fair? 527 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: Well, it'd be a very eventful week at Princess Park. 528 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: I think if they don't get up Sunday night. 529 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 2: I'd be reluctant to walk through the gates at Tullamarine. 530 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 2: You'll be there with YR cameras and what do you think. 531 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: Our producer will be there, who's on holiday right now. Yeah, 532 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: absolutely no, will be there with placards and eff. 533 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: I could be out there. Actually you might get set 534 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: there for a grab. Yeah, correct, No, carton easy. 535 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: Carlton Bye. I'm going fifteen points for me. I think 536 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: it'll be a competitive game. That's all we have time 537 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: for today. Thanks for joining us. You can see the 538 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: rest of the experts tips at Theage dot com dot 539 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: au slash afl. Make sure to subscribe, rate and review 540 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. If you'd like to get 541 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: in touch with us, send an email to Real Footy 542 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: pod at Theage dot com dot are you. We'd love 543 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: to hear from you. The podcast will return on Monday 544 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: when Michael Gleason and the experts to give us all 545 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: the analysis from the weekend. 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