WEBVTT - 'Geriatric' - David Elliott slams Alan Stockdale's comments on assertive women

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<v Speaker 1>On Sydney Now you can't handle the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>The straight shint, our straight shootor on a Thursday afternoon

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<v Speaker 2>is the former Minister in New South Wales and the

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<v Speaker 2>coalition government, David Elliott, longtime Liberal Party members, so he

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<v Speaker 2>can give us an insight and exactly what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>In the Liberal Party at the moment. Hello David, Hello Clinton.

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<v Speaker 3>Alan Stockdale.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, if I had to write an episode of Yes

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<v Speaker 4>Minister dedicated to how you'd send the political party into

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<v Speaker 4>implosion mode, I'd probably include two entitled geriatrics from another state,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's exactly what we've got at the moment. And

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<v Speaker 4>Allan has actually done something that many in the Liberal

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<v Speaker 4>Party have been trying to do for decades, and he's

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<v Speaker 4>united everybody, but they've all been united to oppose his

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<v Speaker 4>role in the restructure of the party.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's been very well reported now in the past

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours. We brought your news yesterday about the

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<v Speaker 1>comments that he made a tele conferences to a women's

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<v Speaker 1>council meeting. Completely can't read the room clearly onl On Stockdale,

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<v Speaker 1>but just for a bit of background because some people

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<v Speaker 1>aren't quite aware of what's going on here, Alan Stockdale

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<v Speaker 1>and Richard Austen former how a government minister had along

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<v Speaker 1>with Peter Seaton, had been appointed to try and sort

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<v Speaker 1>out the Liberal Party rewrite the constitution Eastern Victoria. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not from New South Wales.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right. There was and there was probably a good

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<v Speaker 4>reason for Peter Dutton the stepien, particularly after the devaka

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<v Speaker 4>with the local government campaign, and there was a you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was the party does have some issues when

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<v Speaker 4>it comes to fashionalism. But I must say, when we're

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<v Speaker 4>looking at the demographic that we have to now appeal to,

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<v Speaker 4>and looking at the demographic that is represented in that

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<v Speaker 4>three person committee, you have to ask yourself if we're

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<v Speaker 4>singing from the right song sheet.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think.

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<v Speaker 4>If I was, if I was Alan Stockdale, i'd resigned today.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that there should be people in the

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<v Speaker 4>Liberal Party calling for him to resign because he's put us,

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<v Speaker 4>he's put the party reputation in disrepute.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it was a jake.

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<v Speaker 4>We've all made stupid Jack's goodness, I'm king of Stupid Jackson.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, when you've got this issue with being

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<v Speaker 4>so sensitive and you've got that's the issue of demographics

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<v Speaker 4>and of representation, and you've got a person that doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>really understand politics in this city, let alone this state.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's proof positive that that that the reform

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<v Speaker 4>that he's going to be trying to bring in will

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<v Speaker 4>be probably just knocked on the head out of spite.

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<v Speaker 1>So his term was to end, I think at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of this month June, and they're seeking extension because

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<v Speaker 1>they actually haven't finished rewriting the constitution.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean nobody has seen a draft version of that.

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<v Speaker 4>I hoping that Mark Spietman and Susan Lee have seen

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<v Speaker 4>a draft. But nobody's saying that we didn't need to

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<v Speaker 4>have federal intervention. We certainly did need to have federal intervention.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think we got it wrong when we when

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<v Speaker 4>we picked, when we picked a couple of old blokes

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<v Speaker 4>from Victoria, I mean, I can't imagine going down to

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<v Speaker 4>Victoria or South Australia and giving them instruction about how

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<v Speaker 4>to do politics.

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<v Speaker 3>Just couldn't imagine it.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is all the same day it was revealed

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<v Speaker 1>in the weapon, it was revealed yesterday, and the same

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<v Speaker 1>day that the AEC declares that the Liberals have lost

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<v Speaker 1>another Blue Ribbon Sea.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, and this is an issue while we're talking

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<v Speaker 4>about quotas, which I don't agree with, but we're talking

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<v Speaker 4>about diversity in while we're talking about who is our

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<v Speaker 4>new constituency. Well, yesterday was proof positive. Our new constituency

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<v Speaker 4>are working people from the outer suburbs.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all we got.

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<v Speaker 4>We've got Lindsay, We've got Barrera, We've got Mitchell, and

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<v Speaker 4>we've got Cook.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you're wanting to find out in this town,

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<v Speaker 4>particularly who our demographic is, it is Lowell, middle class

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<v Speaker 4>tradees and and families that live in those out of

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<v Speaker 4>perimeter areas. And now we've got to build on that.

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<v Speaker 4>We can't lose them. And that's exactly what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people because they tell me in that

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<v Speaker 1>demographic bi legal cigarettes.

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<v Speaker 3>And they've been telling me now for the last year.

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<v Speaker 1>The Reeks, I've been banging on about this for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time now, but they've been telling me about this

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<v Speaker 1>for the last year.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a simple reason they do.

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<v Speaker 1>They're law abiding citizens usually, but the reason they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>is because the price differential.

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<v Speaker 3>Is so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I took my hat off to Chris Mins this week

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<v Speaker 1>for becoming really the first politician to actually argue against

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<v Speaker 1>the excise or that the level of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and all power to Chris and I think I'm

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<v Speaker 4>seeing him next week and I'm going to give him

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<v Speaker 4>a wrap for this because ten years ago, when I

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<v Speaker 4>was first made minister and the Justice portfolio, as the

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<v Speaker 4>tobacco industry came and spoke to me and they said, listen,

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<v Speaker 4>this chop chop is bad news. It is going to

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<v Speaker 4>forfeit the taxpayer. It's rightful excise, Okay, that's a good consideration,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's going to be used to do everything from

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<v Speaker 4>funding counter terrorism organizations to money laundering everything that the

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<v Speaker 4>tobacco industry and you can say what you like about them,

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<v Speaker 4>but they did their work on this particular brief. Everything

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<v Speaker 4>that they told me was going to occur has now

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<v Speaker 4>occurred in the last couple of years, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>that mean this is in the right space to push

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<v Speaker 4>the envelope on this.

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<v Speaker 3>He is dead right.

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<v Speaker 4>This is this is prohibition all over again. And the criminals,

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<v Speaker 4>like they did in the nineteen thirties in the United

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<v Speaker 4>States and now using tobacco, particularly the cost and the

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<v Speaker 4>illability for people to afford tobacco. They're using that as

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<v Speaker 4>low hanging fruit when it comes to funding their operations,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think it just goes to show how disengaged

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<v Speaker 4>Canberra is for their just immediately dismissing Chris on this.

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<v Speaker 4>And I also think that it should be bipartisan. I'd

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<v Speaker 4>like to see the opposition jumping up and down about

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<v Speaker 4>this as well the new stuff I was opposition. I

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<v Speaker 4>think I think Mark Speakman should be getting on this

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<v Speaker 4>issue and making sure that the Premier has as the

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<v Speaker 4>maximum amount of politically a cover that it can get.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Chalmers shot it down pretty quickly though. Does it

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<v Speaker 1>help in practice because you're in power when there was

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<v Speaker 1>a liberal government, a coalition government power in Canberra? Does

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<v Speaker 1>it help when there's a labor government? Canbra a labor

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<v Speaker 1>government in New South Wales to negotia on these sort

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<v Speaker 1>of things.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what, I never really found it. I had

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<v Speaker 4>just as good a relationship with Catherine King when I

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<v Speaker 4>was Transport Minister as I did with the federal Liberal

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<v Speaker 4>Transport Minsisi is that's the beauty about Australian politics. We

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<v Speaker 4>actually have personal relationships on both sides and it's important

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<v Speaker 4>that there's a bit of a level of trust there.

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<v Speaker 4>Charts I thought it was quite bizarre him just basically

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<v Speaker 4>immediately dismissing it, because clearly when the Treasurer is dismissing something,

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<v Speaker 4>it means that he's worried about the bottom line.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I was coming down though.

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<v Speaker 4>That's exactly right, and this is this is what I could.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think he understood exactly what the Premier was

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<v Speaker 4>trying to highlight the fact that there we are forfeiting

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<v Speaker 4>exercise by the illegal tobacco.

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<v Speaker 3>You're also, by.

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<v Speaker 4>The way treasurer are potentially aiding money laundering and criminal activity.

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<v Speaker 4>So if your argument is, oh, well I can't afford it,

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<v Speaker 4>well you can't afford not to.

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<v Speaker 1>This new south Well's health that has the job of

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<v Speaker 1>And I spoke to an inspector at length off air

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<v Speaker 1>this week and he went to chapter in verse how

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<v Speaker 1>it all works, and he does his best, but he

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<v Speaker 1>concedes it's just simply not enough of them. Chris Mins

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<v Speaker 1>is indicated that might need to move responsibility to the police.

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<v Speaker 1>When you were a police minister, had police express concerns

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<v Speaker 1>about the growing market?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 4>Not. The irony is that I had my eye on

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<v Speaker 4>this issue as the counter terrorism Minister, not necessarily as

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<v Speaker 4>the Police Minister, and for those reasons because it was

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<v Speaker 4>very much a health in the health jurisdiction. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think when you're looking at the element the type of

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<v Speaker 4>people that are benefiting and profiting from a legal tobacco,

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<v Speaker 4>then it does become a police matter because not only

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<v Speaker 4>is it important for the police, who there's fourteen fifteen

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<v Speaker 4>thousand of them out there, so they certainly have the

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<v Speaker 4>ability to run an operation, an ongoing operation, or to

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<v Speaker 4>maintain compliance, but also they know what to look out

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<v Speaker 4>for when it comes to a legal activity and people

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<v Speaker 4>that have got unexplained wealth, they know what to look

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<v Speaker 4>out for. A Department of Health inspector is not going

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<v Speaker 4>to then have suspicion that the bloke that's selling illegal

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<v Speaker 4>cigarettes also has a maserati and his wife's full of

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<v Speaker 4>plastic because she's had public she's had plastic surgery, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>three times last week, and the kids are all driving

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<v Speaker 4>sports cars. That's that's not something that a health inspector

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<v Speaker 4>would be trying to look out.

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<v Speaker 3>Police can police can do that. King's birthday, not the

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<v Speaker 3>Queen's birthday, The King's birthday long weekend this weekend. Have

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<v Speaker 3>you met the King?

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<v Speaker 4>I have, I have and in fact it's also my birthday.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for thanks for mentioning that you can get the

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<v Speaker 4>point always probably the reason why from a very young

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<v Speaker 4>age I was a staunch monarchist because I was scared

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<v Speaker 4>they were going to take away my birthday holiday. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>tomorrow's column, I'm dedicating to the Royal family, nine of

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<v Speaker 4>them who I've met, and I'm talking about my personal experiences.

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<v Speaker 4>Which one do you think i'd want next to me

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<v Speaker 4>in a pub brawl, in a brawl, in a pub brawl,

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<v Speaker 4>not just not a rugby pub brawl.

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<v Speaker 3>How does Prince Andrew go?

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<v Speaker 4>He doesn't get him. I've never met him, and I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I got enough schemeal in my life to

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<v Speaker 4>worry about somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>Case. Well, look he's he's married into the royal family.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll go. Mike Tindall, the former rugby player.

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<v Speaker 4>The only one that's married in uh that's mentioned that

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<v Speaker 4>I've met, and I'm I'm gonna be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to be brutal with her.

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<v Speaker 3>Is Megan Markle?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, Well I hosted the Invictors Games, of course,

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<v Speaker 4>and so I had a febit to do with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Harry's baby yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, So in the three different jobs I've had as

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<v Speaker 4>a member of Palmer's, an army officer and with my

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<v Speaker 4>involvement with Sint John Ambulance, I've met nine of them

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<v Speaker 4>in that capacity. One of them gets two mentions because

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<v Speaker 4>this person I think changed after a certain event happened

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<v Speaker 4>in their life.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's that? So? Who would you want next to in

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<v Speaker 3>a pub? Braugh? So, okay, it's not Andrew.

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<v Speaker 1>Although I did see some vision of Megan Markle dancing

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<v Speaker 1>around while she was pregnant today that that's been released

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<v Speaker 1>as Harry Fort.

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<v Speaker 4>No, Harry, I think really can because he was he

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<v Speaker 4>was a I told you, But no, he's not the

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<v Speaker 4>one that i'd want.

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<v Speaker 3>Next to me in a pub. We'll have to read tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>I have to read tomorrow, and I'd be very keen

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<v Speaker 4>to get your feedback.

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<v Speaker 3>David Elliott in the Telegraph. Thank you mate, Thank you

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<v Speaker 3>David Elliott