Speaker 1: The Australian Financial Review. Hello, and welcome to fifteen Minutes
Speaker 1: with the Boss. I really hope you enjoyed last week's
Speaker 1: extended version of Matt Common, the Chief executive of Commwealth Bank.
Speaker 1: This week we're going to play an extended version of
Speaker 1: the podcast we recorded a couple of months ago with
Speaker 1: Janine Alice, the founder of Boost Juice. Again. There were
Speaker 1: so many great takeaways that just didn't make the final cut,
Speaker 1: So really hoping you'll enjoy a fuller conversation with Janine.
Speaker 1: Next week we were returned to our normal programming. Please enjoy.
Speaker 2: I really care about future, Jenny. I had an AHA
Speaker 2: moment years ago. I remember being in be Haven Beach
Speaker 2: in Victoria and I saw a woman, she was probably
Speaker 2: eighty eight, with a surfboard under her arm, and I said,
Speaker 2: I want to be her. You talk about this imposter syndrome, right,
Speaker 2: I think it's just bullshit. Right.
Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Sally Patton, editor of Boss from the Australian
Speaker 1: Financial Review, and welcome to fifteen Minutes with the Boss,
Speaker 1: a podcast about success and failure and everything in between.
Speaker 1: And along the way we're hoping to get some great
Speaker 1: advice from our leaders. My guest today is Jeanine Alis,
Speaker 1: the founder of Boost Juice and the chairman of retail Zoo.
Speaker 1: Hi Jeene, How are you good? How are you very well?
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you so much for coming in today.
Speaker 1: You are the founder of boost Juice and the chairman
Speaker 1: of retail Zoo, which houses boost Soulsa's Fresh Mechs Grill
Speaker 1: and Betty's Burgers, and you also sit on the board
Speaker 1: of Cogan, the online retailer. You started Boosting two thousand
Speaker 1: and when you are thirty two, and there are now
Speaker 1: eight hundred and fifty stores in thirteen country and you
Speaker 1: also have about sixty Betty's Burgers. That sounds like a
Speaker 1: lot to keep you busy. But on top of all
Speaker 1: of that, you are a previous winner of the Telstra
Speaker 1: Businesswoman of the Year, and you've appeared on Shak Tank,
Speaker 1: Australian Survivor, Celebrity Apprentice and Gordon Ramsay's Food Stars. You're
Speaker 1: everywhere No, No, Yeah, I've been busy. I say yes
Speaker 1: a lot. You do. Yeah. Actually, do you make a
Speaker 1: point of saying yes?
Speaker 2: I do. I think life's more interesting if you say
Speaker 2: yes before you say no, Because no means safe, no
Speaker 2: means you know, don't you put yourself out there? So
Speaker 2: for me, yes has been fun.
Speaker 1: Oh that's interesting. Yeah, because no means not taking any chances.
Speaker 2: And you don't. The status quo absolutely doesn't change.
Speaker 1: I love that we won't waste any more time. The
Speaker 1: clock starts now. And my first question is, and I'm
Speaker 1: slightly nervous to ask this in your case, what does
Speaker 1: your morning routine look like? What time do you get up?
Speaker 2: The alarm goes off about quarter plus five. I do
Speaker 2: the same thing every morning. So I get up, I
Speaker 2: have vitamins, I do my facial cream, blabblah. I go downstairs.
Speaker 2: By that stage, I've got two dogs and a cat
Speaker 2: following me at my feet. So I feed the cat
Speaker 2: first because it's moles the loudest, so the dogs can wait.
Speaker 2: I then put on my Prana Chai on the pop because.
Speaker 1: It needs to brew, right.
Speaker 2: I then feed the dogs because then they're that stage
Speaker 2: they've done after they've done away right, So then I've
Speaker 2: actually check in and I checked the surf. And so
Speaker 2: by the time the dogs have fed, the dishwashers cleaned,
Speaker 2: and I've had more supplements and I have now got
Speaker 2: my chies now read to brew. I then get in
Speaker 2: my car at about ten to six to six and
Speaker 2: then head to the beach.
Speaker 1: And are you a surfer?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: On longboards or.
Speaker 2: Oh my long long long boards. So yeah, so then
Speaker 2: I find we'd find a wave. Some days successful, some
Speaker 2: days not. But every day I will get in the ocean.
Speaker 2: I truly believe that it's something energetic about the ocean.
Speaker 2: I think that the minerals of the salt and watching
Speaker 2: the sun rise, and I mean it's already proved and
Speaker 2: that the circadian rhythms of watching the sun rise helps
Speaker 2: with sleep. So on every level, it does grounding, it
Speaker 2: does exercise, It does you know, it does the social
Speaker 2: aspect of doing it with a girlfriend. It does the
Speaker 2: mental thing of the challenge.
Speaker 1: Of doing surfing, which is huge.
Speaker 2: And I just get out of the ocean, have a coffee,
Speaker 2: you have a laugh, you break down that wave or
Speaker 2: that thing you missed or how you stuffed it up,
Speaker 2: and then you get on with your day.
Speaker 1: Oh so, have you surved for a long time?
Speaker 2: No, not really. I started surfing when I was forty
Speaker 2: and I was living in Melbourne, so it was kind
Speaker 2: of difficult because it would only be on weekends or
Speaker 2: on holidays. And it was only when I moved to
Speaker 2: the northern Beaches of Sydney that the beach was just
Speaker 2: there that I went right, Okay, well I used to
Speaker 2: lie I liked it, but I never had the opportunities.
Speaker 2: So then yeah, I got my favorite board and yeah,
Speaker 2: me and my board go go for a goat in.
Speaker 1: The water every day. Wow fantastic. So in addition to
Speaker 1: all those vitamins, do you also eat breakfast?
Speaker 2: No, I don't eat breakfast. I will I'll come back
Speaker 2: in the morning and I will after my child because
Speaker 2: my child is pretty juicy. I do a Givani has
Speaker 2: a no sugar yogurt, right, and I'm again very routined.
Speaker 2: So I do that and I mix in with that
Speaker 2: creatine and restrevertol into the yogurt, and then I do
Speaker 2: a fiber in there and then I add in there
Speaker 2: again low sugar musli, which is a cocoa. And so
Speaker 2: that's what I have in the morning. I have that
Speaker 2: while I put the sauna on.
Speaker 1: Do they go on the sauna? Ah? So when you
Speaker 1: do the sauna thing, is that a hot cold or
Speaker 1: is it just a sauna? It's sauna. And then I
Speaker 1: jump in the pool, right, Okay, so you do it
Speaker 1: out doing a bit of hot and cold. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: that is quite a routine.
Speaker 2: It is, and it's the same thing like now I
Speaker 2: say that. Look, I travel into state and you know,
Speaker 2: things get thrown out. But that is my routine that
Speaker 2: really is working for me.
Speaker 1: Okay. My next question is, can you tell me about
Speaker 1: a pivocial moment in your career, approject that you took on,
Speaker 1: or something that you did that really changed the nature
Speaker 1: and the whole path of what you were doing. Look,
Speaker 1: I think it's the starting boost.
Speaker 2: You know. I was a publicist at the United International
Speaker 2: Pictures for a movie company, and you know a couple
Speaker 2: of things. I had three little kids at home, and
Speaker 2: it was you know, life before and after. And I
Speaker 2: think the interesting thing with boost was naivety got me
Speaker 2: into it because I thought, how hard could it be?
Speaker 2: No one told me if I said to them, I'll
Speaker 2: by the way, I'd like to start at a juice
Speaker 2: bar with no business experience, not a degree in anything. Apparently,
Speaker 2: I'm actually the only degree I've ever got in my
Speaker 2: life is a yoga instructor degree. So I'm actually a
Speaker 2: yoga teacher. And that's kind of it right and so yeah,
Speaker 2: so for me it was really being this young woman
Speaker 2: on a massive learning curve of how to actually work
Speaker 2: out how to run a business because I found the
Speaker 2: weight of getting it right was huge. But I also
Speaker 2: believe that I'm not an expert and ever will be.
Speaker 2: But I'm a student and so I was a student
Speaker 2: of business and how to learn doing business was doing it.
Speaker 1: So did you think long and hard before you set
Speaker 1: up boost or did you just think that's it, I'm
Speaker 1: going to just I'm going to do this. Just that's it.
Speaker 1: Let's see.
Speaker 2: I saw the cad of in America of the smoothie category.
Speaker 2: There was nothing in Australia at the time that had
Speaker 2: anything anything that resembled food. You know, it was fried
Speaker 2: this and fried that or hot pies. And so for
Speaker 2: me to start a business that could get more fruit
Speaker 2: and vegetables in people's diet was like really appealing to me.
Speaker 2: I wanted to create something that I wanted to go
Speaker 2: to as a customer and that was a philosophy.
Speaker 1: Okay, So what was the hardest part about setting it
Speaker 1: up At the time?
Speaker 2: I think everything, Like the year I started was the start.
Speaker 2: This same year that GST came involved and I went, right, Okay,
Speaker 2: don't know how to do that.
Speaker 1: We'll have to work it out.
Speaker 2: So everything was I had to work it out. You know,
Speaker 2: I didn't understand about voltages of equipment. I didn't understand
Speaker 2: about das of science. I didn't understand about leasy, I
Speaker 2: didn't understand I didn't understand about food and stand about
Speaker 2: the food standards code. I can go on for the
Speaker 2: next fifteen minutes about the stuff I didn't understand, which
Speaker 2: I won't. But the thing was that it was just
Speaker 2: doing it and going, Okay, how do I learn? And
Speaker 2: then how do I create a system and how do
Speaker 2: I create a process. So when you look at any brands,
Speaker 2: all brands start within air an idea and then they
Speaker 2: have to become a business that has eight hundred stores
Speaker 2: in thirteen countries.
Speaker 1: Wow, it's a great story. So what's the best piece
Speaker 1: of career advice you've ever been given?
Speaker 2: You know, obviously high slowly and far fast is one thing.
Speaker 2: And making sure because it's all about people. You know,
Speaker 2: your business is only successful as your weakest person.
Speaker 1: On that note, do you have you fired a lot
Speaker 1: of people as soon as their probation or just before
Speaker 1: their probation period has finished.
Speaker 2: Yeah, ideally, yes, that's pretty much. But then sometimes, you
Speaker 2: know the other thing I've done badly is I set
Speaker 2: people up to fail. I don't mean to, but you know,
Speaker 2: if they're really good at something, you go all right,
Speaker 2: I'll give you more and more and more and more,
Speaker 2: and then suddenly they don't want to let you down,
Speaker 2: but they're not capable of what I've given them.
Speaker 1: I've done that before, and that's interesting. So if you
Speaker 1: learned from that and learned how to help people along
Speaker 1: the way rather than to set them up for failure, yeah.
Speaker 2: Look, I have first and foremost acknowledging that maybe they're
Speaker 2: not able to do that next step and or ensuring
Speaker 2: that they're more proper head. So I think the key
Speaker 2: thing with any leader is that before you actually look
Speaker 2: at the person, you look at yourself first. Have I
Speaker 2: given them the resources? Have I given them the opportunity?
Speaker 1: Have I given them the tools?
Speaker 2: So if I've done if I can do that, and
Speaker 2: have I communicated more importantly what I needed done?
Speaker 1: So if I can.
Speaker 2: Tick all those those boxes and often I don't take
Speaker 2: those boxes and right I need to look at that,
Speaker 2: then you can go right Okay, well maybe it's not
Speaker 2: working out. So I think the key thing is people,
Speaker 2: and it's also reviewing people, but not only just it's
Speaker 2: not about firing fast. It's also about how do you
Speaker 2: communicate and be the best possible leader, How do you
Speaker 2: give them the tools for them to be the.
Speaker 1: Best version of themselves?
Speaker 2: And how do you motivate them, you know, how do
Speaker 2: you inspire them to create the unachievable.
Speaker 1: So besides hiring slowly and firing fast, what other great
Speaker 1: piece of career advice have you picked up again?
Speaker 2: With people you know, don't blunt their sword?
Speaker 1: Can you explain that? Yes?
Speaker 2: So what I mean by that is that you know,
Speaker 2: some person is if they're really highly creative, right, and
Speaker 2: you go, right, you're a creative and you're in the role,
Speaker 2: don't try and make them analytical? Right, So, because quite
Speaker 2: often what you do is if you try and go,
Speaker 2: you need to do better paperworking, you need to do this,
Speaker 2: you've got to do all these things or be or
Speaker 2: you've got to do the analytics of what you're doing. Well,
Speaker 2: suddenly you're killing their creativity. And so in actual fact,
Speaker 2: you're better off getting an analytical person with them and
Speaker 2: getting to respect each other and see where the power is.
Speaker 2: That's where the true power comes from. And so not
Speaker 2: blunting this sort I think is really important too, and
Speaker 2: just surround putting the right people in the right roles.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. So do you think the same in terms
Speaker 1: of managements? Just because someone is creative and is really
Speaker 1: good at what they do doesn't necessarily mean they're going
Speaker 1: to be a great manager.
Speaker 2: Correct, And they don't want to be a great manager.
Speaker 1: So have you made the mistake before of promoting someone
Speaker 1: to a manager when actually that was.
Speaker 2: Totally completely you know, and completely and sometimes I don't
Speaker 2: even know it. They just go, oh, I should be
Speaker 2: progressing because I should be. Well no, maybe you just
Speaker 2: love you do and that's okay, you know, so, but
Speaker 2: it's all about people. I think. The other one is
Speaker 2: on a business sense is really understanding the numbers, and
Speaker 2: I do, and so you know, to create make people
Speaker 2: accountable for our own areas. As your business gets bigger, you
Speaker 2: need to still think small. So and how do you
Speaker 2: do that? And how you do it is by going
Speaker 2: making people accountable for their areas. So instead of having
Speaker 2: this big black void of expenses, you break it into areas.
Speaker 2: So people are accountable and rewarded and recognized for ensuring
Speaker 2: they manage those costs or drive those sales.
Speaker 1: Oh so drive the numbers into smaller parcels as you
Speaker 1: possibly can. Correct and give people responsibility for that parcel.
Speaker 2: Correct and educate them to understand it. A lot of
Speaker 2: most people don't understand p and ls, and the P
Speaker 2: and L is the most easy, simple form of maths
Speaker 2: you can possibly do.
Speaker 1: In other words, a profit loss account correct.
Speaker 2: How much income did you get in and what are
Speaker 2: the expenses that went out?
Speaker 1: And what's left? That is no more complicated than that.
Speaker 1: That's also really good advice. I love that. Okay, on
Speaker 1: that note, we are going to take a short break,
Speaker 1: but Jeanine, don't go away. We're going to come back
Speaker 1: and open our lovely chatterbox. Welcome back to fifteen Minutes
Speaker 1: with the Boss. I am Sally Pattion, the editor of Boss,
Speaker 1: and I'm here with Jeanine Alice, the founder of Boost. Now, Jeanine,
Speaker 1: this is our section called the chatterbox in front of you.
Speaker 1: As you can see, is this lovely quite our low
Speaker 1: fire I'm afraid cardboard box inside, which are about fifteen questions.
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you to pick some out one
Speaker 1: by one and we'll do more Q and A. All
Speaker 1: right there, okay, great, thank you. What's the best or
Speaker 1: worst business idea you've ever had? Let's go with. Do
Speaker 1: you have business ideas all the time?
Speaker 2: No, not necessarily, Okay, no, I suppose. But early on
Speaker 2: there was something called Harry Harry's in early days, which
Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be a children's headdressing
Speaker 2: salon that they have specifically for kids.
Speaker 1: I saw it in brands.
Speaker 2: I thought that'd be a great idea, and then I
Speaker 2: did the business plan and went, it's not going to
Speaker 2: make any money. And I'm never I'm not a hairdresser,
Speaker 2: so but it was a nice idea, but no, No.
Speaker 2: The other one was Tosses, which was a salad bar.
Speaker 2: But didn't realize that there's a lot of English landlords
Speaker 2: and they didn't like the name Tosses because tosses in England,
Speaker 2: that's true, Nanan's not the same as tossing a salad sod.
Speaker 1: So if you happen to sell your current businesses and
Speaker 1: you could serve a business another business, do you know
Speaker 1: what it would be? Do you sort of ever think
Speaker 1: about what that might be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I would like to set up a
Speaker 2: cutting edge.
Speaker 1: Health retreat one day, and you still might do that. Yeah, maybe,
Speaker 1: who knows? Okay, is it one where you're going to
Speaker 1: help me to live in til I'm one hundred? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Why not? Excellent? Okay, loving that, have another fish in
Speaker 1: the box. Let's go, Okay, here we go. Okay, in
Speaker 1: your experience, what is the best way for people to
Speaker 1: get a promotion?
Speaker 2: Do a great job and don't be pushy about it,
Speaker 2: but make sure the right people know that you're doing
Speaker 2: a great job. And I think that when you're when
Speaker 2: you're going for a promotion, don't just sit in front
Speaker 2: of your boss and tell you why it's good for you.
Speaker 2: You need to explain it to them why it's good
Speaker 2: for the business.
Speaker 1: And is that effectively saying this is what I could
Speaker 1: do for the business, and this is why I think
Speaker 1: I'm the right person.
Speaker 2: Correct through evidence, you've noticed that I've done this, this, this,
Speaker 2: and I achieved this, and I was like, I beat
Speaker 2: my budget and I did this. You know, I'd really
Speaker 2: like to progress. And then I would say to them
Speaker 2: what do I need to do with courses or what
Speaker 2: do I need to do to achieve my goal of
Speaker 2: that promotion. So instead of just going I want say,
Speaker 2: all right, this is what I believe I can give
Speaker 2: to the business. But also this is the path I'd
Speaker 2: like to take. What do I need to do to
Speaker 2: achieve that?
Speaker 1: And do you find that women are less good at
Speaker 1: doing that than men?
Speaker 2: Less? So?
Speaker 1: Now are they good?
Speaker 2: We've got to remember that we are not a robot.
Speaker 2: We are human beings that have got thousands of years
Speaker 2: of DNA and how we are right. So, yes, the
Speaker 2: man goes up and goes kills a lion, it comes
Speaker 2: back and we eat it. Right. Women are social right,
Speaker 2: So even even today, if you look at any major
Speaker 2: overseas charities, the most effective charities is when they give
Speaker 2: the money to the women. Right.
Speaker 1: Yes, we all know.
Speaker 2: That, right because they will look after the group. So
Speaker 2: women definitely need recognition, but I think women are now
Speaker 2: starting to go. We also need to be rewarded for that.
Speaker 2: There's any women listening to this. Recognition is important and
Speaker 2: we should but equally know.
Speaker 1: You're worth financially as well as in other areas rather respects. Right, Yeah, okay, no,
Speaker 1: I like that. Okay, next question, have a let's have
Speaker 1: a go who is the person outside of the business
Speaker 1: world whom you most admire and why.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't put people on pedestals. And I
Speaker 2: learned that when I was twenty one year old working
Speaker 2: on Dave Bowi yacht, because I always thought there were
Speaker 2: special people, like there was people that were like super people.
Speaker 1: And there was just us.
Speaker 2: And when I actually work with Bowie, I met Mick
Speaker 2: Jagger and David Bowie, Michael Kain and Robin Williams and
Speaker 2: Eric Idol and all of these type of people, and
Speaker 2: I realized I was just people, right. And then I
Speaker 2: was a publicist for the United International Pictures and I
Speaker 2: met someone like Patrick Stewart and he's not the captain
Speaker 2: of the Star Trek Enterprise.
Speaker 1: I thought he was, but he's not.
Speaker 2: Right. So in actual fact, so musicians, I certainly admire
Speaker 2: God the talent of people who can can act and
Speaker 2: they can you know, they can see. I mean God,
Speaker 2: I admire the talent that's extraordinary. But I think it's
Speaker 2: people that make changes in the world, like Fiona Wood,
Speaker 2: you know, who is an inventor of skin for burns victims,
Speaker 2: which is life changing. She was Austrain of the Year
Speaker 2: and she did skin graphs for burn victims, you know,
Speaker 2: and then you link think of Warren Buffett, right, Warren
Speaker 2: Buffett who is a simple, clear communicator and speaks a
Speaker 2: lot of SATs to a lot of people who want
Speaker 2: to invest. Right, So there's people like that, I go, well,
Speaker 2: and what he uses his money for is to literally
Speaker 2: change the world. Bill Gates. Bill Gates wanted to help
Speaker 2: sanitization in third world countries because why because it is important?
Speaker 2: And so people like that are like extraordinary people. You know,
Speaker 2: people who helped with the vaccine for COVID, whether you
Speaker 2: thought it was right or wrong. Those sort of people
Speaker 2: which are quite extraordinary. Where I always thought one person
Speaker 2: can't change the world, it's whether those type of people
Speaker 2: can actually change how the world is and how we
Speaker 2: think and and what we think is possible.
Speaker 1: So the fact that you have never put anybody up
Speaker 1: on a pedestal, at least since you were in your
Speaker 1: early twenties, has that somehow helped you in business because
Speaker 1: you're not You don't hold people in awe.
Speaker 2: But I also don't hold myself in awe. Right, So
Speaker 2: I don't hold people in all, but I don't hold
Speaker 2: myself in awe. People who work for me, I always
Speaker 2: consider them working with me because I can't do it
Speaker 2: without them, right, I can't do it without it without
Speaker 2: a team of super smart people. And that might be
Speaker 2: the local lawyer or the local accountant. Now, I finished
Speaker 2: school at sixteen, right, My school didn't even go to
Speaker 2: year twelve, was a tech school. But equally, I never
Speaker 2: ever felt that I was less than someone. All I
Speaker 2: felt was in a room that we needed to get
Speaker 2: shit done, and I needed to learn a lot, and
Speaker 2: I hated paying legal fees, right, And so my view
Speaker 2: was I thought, and this didn't actually come to fruition,
Speaker 2: but I used to think, if I'm paying a lawyer
Speaker 2: who's been to school for six years to do law,
Speaker 2: and I'm paying them seven hundred to one thousand dollars
Speaker 2: an hour, I want to not just go is that
Speaker 2: contract right?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: I want to make sure they sit down and go
Speaker 2: through everything and learn. So, you know, I think that
Speaker 2: I know as much about trademarks, worldwide trade monks and
Speaker 2: any other lawyer right contract law. You know, I'm certainly
Speaker 2: no lawyer, but I've but I've taken the time to
Speaker 2: understand it, so I know what question the right question
Speaker 2: to ask the other thing I found out by having
Speaker 2: that curious mind is lawyers get it wrong a lot,
Speaker 2: and so do accounts a lot. And so if you
Speaker 2: just blindly go, oh, the lawyer's looked over and sign
Speaker 2: it or more for you, and don't actually complain in
Speaker 2: five years time if you need to get that contract out,
Speaker 2: it's not what you want.
Speaker 1: Ah. So it sounds like your humility and your just
Speaker 1: desire to learn and to be across everything has really
Speaker 1: stood you in good stead.
Speaker 2: I don't see it as humility. I see it as
Speaker 2: understanding my knowledge base and understanding that I'm the student always,
Speaker 2: and I'm talking about that even this current era. You know,
Speaker 2: I've got a son who's a successful YouTuber. So if
Speaker 2: I'm talking about social media, I'm not going on the parent,
Speaker 2: I'm the all wise and knowing parent. I'm going hey, Riley,
Speaker 2: can you help me with this? Or Oliver, what do
Speaker 2: you think of that? Or so, Yeah, it's not humility.
Speaker 2: I think it's realism.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know where people talk about this imposter syndrome, right,
Speaker 2: I think it's just bullshit.
Speaker 1: Right, Oh okay, tell me why?
Speaker 2: Well, because we are all learn there is no one
Speaker 2: out there who's an expert if someone turns to me
Speaker 2: and say I am an expert in blah, then I
Speaker 2: just look at them and go, wow, that's really sad
Speaker 2: for you, because there's nothing more fit to learn. I mean,
Speaker 2: I know, I'm the fifteen minutes with the boss. Well,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. If anyone's listening to her, you're not listening
Speaker 2: to an expert. Right, But as soon as someone thinks
Speaker 2: you're an expert, that means that they don't need to
Speaker 2: learn anything else.
Speaker 1: They're an expert. Oh that's interesting. So if we're all learning,
Speaker 1: then there's no such thing as improcesses.
Speaker 2: No, No, we're just learning. If you're just there on
Speaker 2: the curve and you're learning. Yeah, so when someone sort
Speaker 2: of goes, I feel like I'm supposed to be. No,
Speaker 2: you're supposed to be wherever you are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's okay, that's great. Okay, next question, have a
Speaker 1: fish in the box, So tell me about your favorite
Speaker 1: health hack. Assuming you've only got one, you've probably got lots.
Speaker 1: Can you point to a couple.
Speaker 2: I'm an early adopter in the health hack, so let
Speaker 2: me explain why health.
Speaker 1: Is important to me.
Speaker 2: I really care about future Jeanine, about future Jeanine. Right,
Speaker 2: I care about her. So I want to have the
Speaker 2: dis today to ensure that future Genine's okay.
Speaker 1: So what does that mean for me?
Speaker 2: It means that I get good sleep, I don't drink
Speaker 2: much alcohol, I exercise, and I.
Speaker 1: Eat relatively well.
Speaker 2: Right. I know that sounds like I'm incredibly boring person,
Speaker 2: but I've also got the curious mind of elder out there.
Speaker 2: So people like David Sinclair Peter Attia who are really
Speaker 2: leading the way in longevity. You know, there's a Japanese
Speaker 2: scientist that actually discovered something called muse stem cells m US,
Speaker 2: and these are cells that come from embilical cords and
Speaker 2: other sort of blood components that actually are super strong.
Speaker 2: And they are now doing IVS with stem cells using
Speaker 2: these mw cells and actually having some incredible advancements on
Speaker 2: spinal injuries and MS and all sorts of things. It's
Speaker 2: actually quite fascinating research. So I'm sort of fascinated to
Speaker 2: look and investigate all of these different hacks that can
Speaker 2: help future Janine be the best version of herself.
Speaker 1: And is this because you want to live until you're
Speaker 1: one hundred?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: You know what it is.
Speaker 2: I had an a harm moment years ago, and I
Speaker 2: saw a little old lady walking with a walker, and
Speaker 2: I sort of thought, oh God, I do not want.
Speaker 1: To be her. I remember being in fair Haven.
Speaker 2: Beach in Victoria and I saw a woman she was
Speaker 2: probably eighty eight, with a surfboard under her arm, and
Speaker 2: I said, I want to be her. And so that
Speaker 2: was my AHA moment of going I can choose. And
Speaker 2: I also decided that every decision that I make today
Speaker 2: dictates which version of myself I will be. And I
Speaker 2: feel great. I have a red light bed at home,
Speaker 2: so it looks like a solarium, but it's actually red light.
Speaker 2: So I lay in that every day and I all
Speaker 2: love it. So a part of that morning routine of
Speaker 2: saunas da data, I ended up with doing videoga and
Speaker 2: I ended up in the red light. And so yes,
Speaker 2: so I'm finding that, you know, I'm feeling the best
Speaker 2: I've ever felt.
Speaker 1: So that would be one of your hacks. Maybe a
Speaker 1: red bed, a red bed. And what supplements do you take?
Speaker 2: I got how long have you got? Oh? No, I've
Speaker 2: got abrisrevitol MNM. I take a mega th free, I
Speaker 2: take gincing Genkobela BA, I take creatine, I take vitamin D.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I take sort of range a range,
Speaker 1: and then how much slip do you get in it.
Speaker 2: I like to be in bed by eight thirty nine o'clock,
Speaker 2: so i'd like to get a good eight and I
Speaker 2: mostly get eight uninterrupted eight hour sleep. Oh and I'm
Speaker 2: also on and a massive fan of hit.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, it works for you.
Speaker 2: There's a curve that actually goes up with regard to
Speaker 2: increase of all sorts of mortalities, and then the curve
Speaker 2: when you are taking HRT. It also makes sense to me.
Speaker 2: I don't know if on the most simplest terms is
Speaker 2: that as soon as you cannot bear children, the body goes, well,
Speaker 2: what's the point, But it kind of goes what's the point.
Speaker 2: So I think if you're continuing to keep your hormones
Speaker 2: im balance, then your body is in balance. And I
Speaker 2: implore women.
Speaker 1: To at least do the research on it. Well, I
Speaker 1: wish you luck and I have every confidence that you'll
Speaker 1: be surfing when you're eighty eight. Yeah, that's a planned great. Okay,
Speaker 1: I have another go in the box. What part of
Speaker 1: your job don't you like filling informs?
Speaker 2: I think that is just the monotonous thing, you know.
Speaker 2: I'm lucky enough for to Pa, so most of the
Speaker 2: jobs I don't like she gets. So, you know, being
Speaker 2: on hold for Telstra, you know, waiting for builders to
Speaker 2: turn up and they don't turn up, filling informs, dealing
Speaker 2: with bureaucracy is just does my head in.
Speaker 1: Are they parts of leadership that you don't like so much?
Speaker 2: The people part sometimes I really struggle with. I love
Speaker 2: the I love the people part when you're see people
Speaker 2: develop and being the best they can be. And I
Speaker 2: hate the people part where people don't do the right
Speaker 2: thing in the business, or that they do the right thing,
Speaker 2: but you know they're not quite good enough at their job.
Speaker 2: I'm not very good when people tell me problems because
Speaker 2: in my head, in the back of my head, I
Speaker 2: go really, but externally I go, oh, really, so your
Speaker 2: dog broke its leg.
Speaker 1: That's sad. I'm sorry it did.
Speaker 2: But I also believe in verbs and souls, and what
Speaker 2: that means for me is people who are victims titled
Speaker 2: Rescue and Blame BERB, which is the people who come
Speaker 2: and go I deserve a promotion because I've been here
Speaker 2: for a year, or the mistake happened, it wasn't my
Speaker 2: fault or I'm entitled to work from home. Right, So
Speaker 2: those sort of things is like they're verbs. Right, But
Speaker 2: if you can change your life and become a sore,
Speaker 2: which is solutions in businesses always problems, but if you're
Speaker 2: constantly train your brain to go to solutions, ownership, ownership
Speaker 2: is actually gives you power. Sore is solutions ownership, accountability
Speaker 2: and responsibility. So I hire on that, I promote on that.
Speaker 2: I look for people that has that. I do business
Speaker 2: with people that are the SAW. So yeah, So I
Speaker 2: truly believe that if you have everyone who is accountable
Speaker 2: and will call it when they get it wrong, and
Speaker 2: a solution based you can achieve anything.
Speaker 1: I love that. So one side just equals complacency. I
Speaker 1: guess yes, ultimately victims victims. And on that note, Janine,
Speaker 1: you have finished with colors the chatterbox section. I now
Speaker 1: have one last question which we ask all our guests,
Speaker 1: and that is, if you weren't running Boost and Betty's
Speaker 1: Burgers and all the others, what would you be doing.
Speaker 2: I'd like to it one day, maybe do a health retreat.
Speaker 2: The longevity health space is booming. If we can get
Speaker 2: more people to consider their health, I mean the amount
Speaker 2: of money people spend on cars and other stuff, but
Speaker 2: their health.
Speaker 1: I think i'd like to do that.
Speaker 2: I think that there's a lot of cutting edge stuff,
Speaker 2: which you know, we have to be safe with and
Speaker 2: we have to make sure that we know what we're doing.
Speaker 2: But I think there's a lot of stuff out there
Speaker 2: that could really help people. And it's not about living forever.
Speaker 2: I just want to leave as healthy as I can
Speaker 2: until i'm not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so is eighty eight like that age or
Speaker 1: do you think about an actual age or just I
Speaker 1: don't think at age.
Speaker 2: There's some super young eighty year olds and they're super
Speaker 2: old thirty year olds. So I don't think people are
Speaker 2: a number. Live as long as I can, as long
Speaker 2: as I'm healthy, and if that's eighty, great, if that
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty, great, But that's my goal.
Speaker 1: And Janine, that is our time up. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: I've really enjoyed listening to you about your morning routine
Speaker 1: and the fact that you go into the water every
Speaker 1: morning and you get those minerals from the salt water
Speaker 1: on your skin. I love your health hack. You are
Speaker 1: preparing now to be the future. Jeanine with a surfboard
Speaker 1: under your arm at the age of eighty eight. I
Speaker 1: really like the idea that you should promote people the
Speaker 1: capability because the alternative is that you might promote them
Speaker 1: too far and they'll fail and it won't be good
Speaker 1: for you either. I love the idea that you just
Speaker 1: say yes because that is your chance to learn, So
Speaker 1: I'm going to adopt that don't say no. And I
Speaker 1: really like the idea that the successful people really should
Speaker 1: be all about solutions, ownership, accountability and responsibility and don't
Speaker 1: be a victim. So thank you so much following us
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