1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,760 S1: We love gut health chat here, and we get to 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:04,880 S1: find out a little bit more how to look after 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,480 S1: our gut and our liver, because they do fantastic things 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,600 S1: for everything in our body. We've got Viktor Kubala, who 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,920 S1: is Thomson's naturopath and wellness expert, joining us to explain further. 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,520 S1: Welcome back to the show, Viktor. 7 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,079 S2: Excellent. Thank you, Sarah Marie, Sarah and Gerald, good to 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:21,720 S2: be here. 9 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,480 S1: Now, we know that it is absolutely crucial to maintain 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,800 S1: our gut and our liver health. So how are we 11 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,200 S1: able to do this through our lifestyle? 12 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,440 S2: Okay. Yeah. So the first thing is very important is 13 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,519 S2: to look at our diet. So a diet rich in fibre. 14 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,000 S2: So plenty of veggies. And speaking of veggies, one of 15 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,560 S2: the veggies that I like to focus on here is 16 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:45,360 S2: cruciferous vegetables. So these are vegetables such as broccoli, cauliflower 17 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,440 S2: and kale that not only give you fibre but also 18 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:53,760 S2: contain components that specifically target detoxification pathways in the liver. 19 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,480 S2: So they're important along with other colourful foods. So foods 20 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:02,680 S2: rich in antioxidants. So your berries for example, staying hydrated 21 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,280 S2: with plenty of water and of course limiting alcohol and 22 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:07,160 S2: processed foods. 23 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,800 S1: I love everything you said there, Victor, but just know 24 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,699 S1: that Gerald pulled a face because he hates kale so much. 25 00:01:13,860 --> 00:01:14,580 S3: Thanks very much. 26 00:01:15,060 --> 00:01:16,940 S2: What's wrong with that, Gerald? Come on. 27 00:01:16,980 --> 00:01:19,540 S3: Come on. Victor, it's a weed, for heaven's sake. Grows 28 00:01:19,540 --> 00:01:20,500 S3: on the side of a road. 29 00:01:20,540 --> 00:01:22,380 S1: Do you agree? Disagree. 30 00:01:22,420 --> 00:01:24,020 S4: Do you massage it before you eat it? 31 00:01:24,100 --> 00:01:24,860 S3: Who? Me or the. 32 00:01:24,860 --> 00:01:25,179 S4: Car? 33 00:01:25,380 --> 00:01:27,580 S1: What do you whisper it? Sweet nothings before you give 34 00:01:27,580 --> 00:01:30,179 S1: it a massage. She's buying you a drink. Helps. 35 00:01:31,100 --> 00:01:31,820 S3: Let's move on. 36 00:01:33,500 --> 00:01:36,500 S4: Uh, so obviously many of us are busy, and, you know, 37 00:01:36,540 --> 00:01:39,700 S4: we we want to try and get the best that 38 00:01:39,700 --> 00:01:42,660 S4: we can from real foods. But, you know, sometimes with 39 00:01:42,660 --> 00:01:46,220 S4: our busy lives, indulgent lifestyles, we can't get there. So 40 00:01:46,220 --> 00:01:48,380 S4: how can a supplement assist us with this? 41 00:01:48,820 --> 00:01:51,380 S2: Okay. Yeah. Good a great question. So what we can 42 00:01:51,380 --> 00:01:54,820 S2: do is take something a supplement that can specifically target 43 00:01:54,820 --> 00:01:58,020 S2: those two areas, the liver and gut. Now, Gerald did 44 00:01:58,020 --> 00:02:01,500 S2: bring up a good point before about kale being a weed. Well, 45 00:02:01,540 --> 00:02:04,980 S2: funnily enough, there's actually another weed that is of great 46 00:02:04,980 --> 00:02:08,180 S2: importance to us and that is milk thistle. So milk 47 00:02:08,180 --> 00:02:11,100 S2: thistle is it's a yes. It's actually a weed. Um, 48 00:02:11,139 --> 00:02:14,940 S2: Western Australians hate it. It's actually, um, something which, uh, 49 00:02:14,940 --> 00:02:18,620 S2: the agricultural department has, uh, has focused on over there, 50 00:02:18,620 --> 00:02:21,500 S2: but basically milk thistle. The good thing about it, though, 51 00:02:21,500 --> 00:02:24,369 S2: is that the seeds can actually focus on liver health, 52 00:02:24,370 --> 00:02:28,490 S2: so ensuring that the liver can detoxify it properly, for example. 53 00:02:28,490 --> 00:02:31,049 S2: And then the other supplement to consider or the other 54 00:02:31,050 --> 00:02:35,450 S2: component are probiotics because these are specific for gut health. 55 00:02:35,450 --> 00:02:38,610 S2: So we know the importance of probiotics and the importance 56 00:02:38,610 --> 00:02:42,410 S2: of selecting particular strains that focus on both the small 57 00:02:42,410 --> 00:02:45,810 S2: and large intestines. So that's a way of being able 58 00:02:45,810 --> 00:02:49,570 S2: to specifically target via a supplement the liver and the gut. 59 00:02:49,570 --> 00:02:52,130 S2: And that can be taken on a regular basis. 60 00:02:52,169 --> 00:02:55,690 S3: I'm still recovering, Victor, that you equate milk thistle and 61 00:02:55,730 --> 00:03:00,730 S3: kale as as weeds. I'm moving on now. The the 62 00:03:00,770 --> 00:03:02,530 S3: A to Z one of one of the books in 63 00:03:02,530 --> 00:03:06,490 S3: my in my library at home is Simon Mills, 1984. 64 00:03:06,490 --> 00:03:08,850 S3: And this is what he says about milk thistle. Its 65 00:03:08,889 --> 00:03:13,770 S3: actions are to regenerate liver cells and protect them against 66 00:03:13,770 --> 00:03:17,769 S3: the action of liver poisons, and to stimulate bile flow. Now, 67 00:03:17,770 --> 00:03:20,610 S3: in 1984, was that an overselling of the benefits of 68 00:03:20,610 --> 00:03:21,329 S3: milk thistle? 69 00:03:22,169 --> 00:03:25,330 S2: Not at all. You know, because that's that's the that's 70 00:03:25,330 --> 00:03:28,250 S2: the beautiful thing about milk thistle, because we talk about 71 00:03:28,250 --> 00:03:31,890 S2: milk thistle being an overall support for liver. And that's 72 00:03:31,889 --> 00:03:36,270 S2: the other component because we're talking about, um, liver protection, 73 00:03:36,270 --> 00:03:38,670 S2: because that's the thing. Our livers are exposed to so 74 00:03:38,670 --> 00:03:42,510 S2: many toxicity toxins. And so you need something to help 75 00:03:42,510 --> 00:03:45,430 S2: the liver regenerate. It can do it on its own, 76 00:03:45,430 --> 00:03:47,350 S2: but you need a little bit of help every now 77 00:03:47,350 --> 00:03:49,869 S2: and then. So basically, something like milk thistle can help 78 00:03:49,870 --> 00:03:53,470 S2: regenerate the cells. And more importantly, you talk about, um, 79 00:03:53,510 --> 00:03:56,310 S2: bile production as well. That's the other thing that milk 80 00:03:56,310 --> 00:03:59,230 S2: thistle can do, help us to produce healthy bile. And 81 00:03:59,230 --> 00:04:02,790 S2: what does bile do helps us to detoxify. Uh, or. 82 00:04:02,830 --> 00:04:05,830 S2: Sorry to break down, I should say, um, the dietary 83 00:04:05,870 --> 00:04:08,670 S2: fats that we may consume in our regular diets. And 84 00:04:08,670 --> 00:04:11,430 S2: also the other point about bile, it can also help 85 00:04:11,430 --> 00:04:13,510 S2: us go to the toilet as well. And number twos 86 00:04:13,510 --> 00:04:14,630 S2: are a bit healthier. Yes. 87 00:04:14,670 --> 00:04:20,110 S1: Well good morning. Yes. So how often should we be 88 00:04:20,110 --> 00:04:21,029 S1: taking this? 89 00:04:21,790 --> 00:04:23,990 S2: Uh, you can take it once a day. Uh, that's 90 00:04:23,990 --> 00:04:26,469 S2: the good thing about milk thistle and probiotics is that 91 00:04:26,470 --> 00:04:29,670 S2: you can take it on a regular basis. So once 92 00:04:29,670 --> 00:04:31,310 S2: a day and of course, you know, look out for 93 00:04:31,310 --> 00:04:35,150 S2: A1A day supplement that contains both milk thistle and probiotics. 94 00:04:35,150 --> 00:04:36,350 S2: So it can be done regularly. 95 00:04:36,470 --> 00:04:40,110 S1: Oh two easy. Victor Kubala, Thompson's naturopath and wellness expert. 96 00:04:40,110 --> 00:04:41,429 S1: Thank you for joining us. 97 00:04:42,110 --> 00:04:43,510 S2: No problem at all. Thanks guys. 98 00:04:43,510 --> 00:04:45,870 S1: Always read the label and follow the directions for use.