WEBVTT - Perth Today with Simon Beaumont Podcast - Wednesday, 18 June 2025 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:07.920 On Perth six PR. This is Perth Today with Simon Beaumont. 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:12.680 Yes today everyone, thanks for listening in. I'm Simon Beaumont 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:15.280 here until one o'clock today. I'd love to hear from 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:18.240 you talk about radio program when I talk about radio station. 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:21.240 Phone lines are open one double three eight eighty two 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:23.040 if you'd like to give us a call, and the 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:25.640 text lines up and running as well. Zero four eighty seven, 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:29.720 triple nine A eighty two. The state of origins on 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:33.320 tonight at OPTAs Stadium, but not according to our daily paper. 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:35.200 We'll have a little look at that in just a moment. 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:37.000 Spoke to Milty and Carl about it. I'm not sure 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:39.839 if you care. Maybe it's just us good luck to 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:42.080 the Bears if Rugby League isn't going to get any 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:46.280 coverage at all going forward. Full We on the show today, 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:48.839 Luise Rai will be in from the RSPC eight with 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:51.960 some special views, some little mates, and we're going to 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.160 speak to a speech pathologist who has written to federal 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:58.640 and state ministers. The NDI is carve up for speech 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:02.600 pathologists and other ancillary health services, has really dried up 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:05.399 and hasn't changed in the last five or six years 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:07.720 and a lot of these little businesses are in a 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:11.319 paralas state. The leader of the opposition, Basil's Emplus, will 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:14.040 join us after nine point thirty with his Fortnightlygue segment 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:20.560 and gardening with Sue mcdoodle, Musumik, Sue mcdougalam One, OAM 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:25.560 Award and OAM in the in the King's Birthday Honors List. 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:28.040 I think mcdodle might come back to haunt me at 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:30.920 some stage, and when the bloopers get played, I'll give 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:32.600 you we had to have a yes no question for 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:34.880 you in just a moment as well. One of the 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:36.640 things I'm going to talk to Basle about, because he 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:40.080 got pretty stroppy in the media yesterday, was the delay 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.600 in smart writer, the delay in us being able to 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:47.720 use our credit cards to check in and out in 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:50.480 and out of trains, buses and ferries. I think Pads 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:52.200 is going to arc up about that today. We've got 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:55.240 some really old audio for you, going back to twenty 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:59.640 eighteen when the PTA spoke to this station talking about 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:02.560 what was coming up. Twenty eighteen. So it's been six 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:04.560 and a half years in the making and we've still 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:07.080 got a couple of years to go. Before we can 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:13.000 tap on tap and go on buses, trains and ferries. 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:15.440 We'll have a look at that on the show in 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:17.720 just a moment. I want to try and clear something 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:19.560 up today. First up, if we can. 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:23.600 Right, let's clear this up once and for all. 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:26.480 Yes or no? Have you had the flu this year? 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:30.080 Have you had the flu this year? A health figure 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:33.200 show There's been more than double the amount of the 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:36.040 cases this time last year. Have you had the flu 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.840 this year? Yes or no? And what's it been like? 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:41.919 So always hear that, you know, we people say I've 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:43.320 got the flu when you haven't really just got a 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:46.720 cold or RSV or something like that. But have you 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:48.960 had the flu this year? What's it been like? Yes 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.720 or no? Have you had the flu this season? It's 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.360 double the number of cases that have been reported to 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:58.120 hell them. People have been hospitalized as well. People have 0:02:58.200 --> 0:02:59.959 been really crooked this year. Have you had the flu 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:03.359 this year? With zero four seven, triple nine eighty two? 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:05.840 Yes or no? Have you had the flu this year? 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:08.600 Just wanted to mention this today. Milsey and I and 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:12.480 Carl had a bit of a chat about it. It's 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:15.160 it's about the coverage of the state of origin, which 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:19.040 is on tonight, so it will be close to us sellout. 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:23.239 It was Game one was the most watched TV event 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:27.560 of the year thus far. Somewhere between three point eight 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:29.480 and five point four million people watched it. Lots of 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:33.040 people watched it in Perth, so I wanted I wanted 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:37.520 to say this, and ultimately I'm concerned what this means 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:39.560 for the Perth Bears when they come to Perth. Now. 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.040 I'm an AFL fan, A lot of our listeners are. 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.080 I'm a sports fan in general, but I do watched 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:49.320 the National Rugby League. So the daily paper, the paper 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:52.000 that we have been reading in citizens, I still regard 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.480 it as our paper. I've been reading it long before 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.800 the current editor and owners turned up have decided to 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:00.160 almost completely ignore one of the biggest sporting events to 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:02.320 the year. The state of origin. Now, this is a 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:05.000 massive deal for the city and the state. The paper 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:07.400 pretty much ignored it yesterday and gave it almost nothing 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:09.960 today on page forty six. And I don't reckon Channel 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.720 seven will cover it tonight. Why is that? Because it's 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:15.920 not broadcast on Channel seven, It's on Channel nine. And 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:18.479 as Milty said to me earlier on today, it's a 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:21.040 huge event for the community. It's a huge event for 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:24.359 Western Australians. For our city, it's a huge event to 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:28.000 show off our stadium and our city. Imagine if this 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:32.239 radio station didn't get behind telephone or the Christmas pageant 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:35.960 because they are shown on another television network. Imagine if 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:38.320 we did that. And I will say good luck to 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:41.120 the Bears going forward, a national team being ignored and 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:47.159 undermined by a dominant local media outlet. So we have 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.520 asked to speak to Anthony de Seglee today, of course, 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:54.560 a former editor of the paper and the new CEO 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:56.919 of the Bears, but he's unavailable, is in meetings. He 0:04:56.920 --> 0:05:00.960 has spoken a little earlier to Carls stef Ivanovic on 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:05.760 the on the Today Show. This is Anthony de Sigley, 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:10.279 former editor of The West and the new CEO of 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:13.159 the Perth Bears, chatting de kl on the nine network 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:16.320 this morning. Have you listen, there's another big issue here 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:18.719 for anyone trying to break into this AFL town. 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:21.040 He basically controls. 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:21.719 The media over here. 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:25.080 You burnt the village as it were, by leaving seven. 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:26.640 Where do you find your oxygen? 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:28.440 Yeah, I mean look, at the end of the day, 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:30.400 what I've said to people is you know this is 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:32.520 an AFL town. There's no doubt about that. The Eagles 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:34.440 and the docks are big. But like, it's also a 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:37.280 soccer town. It's also a basketball town. It's a tennis town, 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.200 it's a hockey town, it's a union town, and it'll 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.080 be an NRL town. I mean the main thing about 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:45.120 West Australians is they love sport of any kind and 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:47.120 they show up to things. So you know, there'll be 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:49.960 sixty thousand people at Origin. You know there is a 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:51.520 huge appetite for this impact. 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:54.440 The West Australian paper has been less than supportive of 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:57.480 all of this, and whatever directive is going on there, 0:05:58.000 --> 0:05:58.920 you can do it without it. 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:00.760 Well, I think the end of the day, we've got 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:02.880 to earn the right to be in those pages, right, Like, 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:04.640 if we're winning on the field, if we're winning off 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:06.839 the field, then I'm sure we'll be in the West 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:08.880 Australian sports pages. And if we're not, you know, the 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:11.159 only people missing out will be the readers of the newspaper. 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.400 All right, So there's Anthony DISSECTI former add to the 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:16.320 West knows a fair bit about the West, and the 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:18.320 owner of the West and how the network works. But 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:22.640 it's really clear, really clear that the seven West Media 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:25.360 group aren't getting behind the NRL because they're not showing it. 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:28.880 So and as I say, imagine if six PR didn't 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:31.440 give a nod and a wink and include some of 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:35.039 our staff at telephone or at the Christmas pageant. Imagine 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.000 if we didn't do that, which is part of the 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:38.719 town and a really important part of the town and 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:41.880 what the community does. Imagine that not going to happen. 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:45.160 Is it different, different set of ethics, business ethics at play? 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:48.080 I guess yes, no. Have you had the flu this season? 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.159 The yeses are five and the nose eleven. So if 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:52.880 plenty of people haven't had it, but plenty of people 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:57.239 have double the number of flu returns, and some people 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:03.120 have been really crooked one double three eighty two. Andrews says, 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:04.760 I think the Bears will be okay. There are enough 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:06.640 key weis Inis the States. People living in Wa these 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:09.400 days we watch an RL. Thank you, Andrew. Natalie, Hello, 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.160 natal Lee says I hate to break it to you. 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.160 Most Sam Gropers aren't interested in our el and no 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:16.120 wonder the West is interested, Natalie. They are not interested 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:19.600 because they're not showing it. Aileen says, no, I haven't 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:21.520 had the Thank you, Natalie, I haven't had the flu. 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:23.520 I've had a very nasty cold. If it wasn't flu, 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:28.239 Thanks Aileen. No, says Linda and Kensing and hello Linda, 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:30.720 thank you for corresponding with us. I haven't had it. 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:31.920 Did they have a flu? Jab early? 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:32.360 You may so. 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:36.000 I hope they'll stay well. This one here from Chris. Yes, Simon, 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:38.520 I've had the flu. Sore throat running, no small, four 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:42.640 days hot lemonon and honey. Thanks Chris. Lots of people 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.800 corresponding with us today. Have you had the flu this 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:52.080 season already? Rory No, Nope, no flu, no flu Shotory 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:56.160 things me. Hello, maya morning, Simon, I haven't had the flu. 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:00.200 Lots of people corresponding with us today, so and if 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:01.480 you have had it, tell us what it was like. 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:05.160 Davos says I've got COVID, and he's put a rude 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:07.040 word in there. I can't read that word, devo, but 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:10.040 sorry to hear that, mate, Greg. I'm fifty six years 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:12.080 old and otherwise reasonably fit, and I had the flu 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:14.040 bad enough that it hospitalized me for four days. 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:14.360 Wow. 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:18.160 Sorry to hear that, Greg, it's heavy. Yes, I have 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.400 says John wasn't bad. It was very long. Three weeks 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:26.640 no COVID comes cropping up a little bit as well. 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:31.120 Thanks for your correspondence on this. We're asking and fatic noses. 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:34.680 Chris May, are the health authorities chucking out more scare tactics. 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.200 I don't think so, Chris. I think they're legit, don't 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.640 they Well, why they do that? Nos is? Elizabeth Andrew 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.440 hung around for two weeks. It was no good. Thanks Andrew. 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:45.960 We'll take a break still to come on the program. 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:48.680 I'm going talk to Clay Gollig about the flu numbers 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:51.040 this winter. They are double what they were this time 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:54.640 last year. After nine thirty, Basil Zemplus will join us. 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.600 He's got a fair headed steam up with regards Caroline 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:00.719 Spencer's numbers of yesterday. The report at one point six 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:05.439 billion dollars in budget overruns on it projects around other 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:07.760 major projects in the city. So well, speak to Baz 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:10.320 about that bit of a free kick for bas. I'm 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:13.120 not sure how he's going to frame that up today. 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:16.400 You just need to get Bas's thoughts too, having, you know, 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:18.920 being a Channel seven bloke formally what he thinks about 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:23.080 the coverage of the state of origin. It's on tonight'll 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:26.559 be big local paper. Doesn't care. Back in a second, 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:30.360 Clay College joins us. Now he's an infectious diseases expert. 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:34.480 Good ad, Dr Clay. How are you Yeah, good to 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:35.880 talk to you. It's been a while. How are you 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:38.240 going well, you've got a while, yeah, if you had 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:38.520 the flu? 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:39.920 Mate. 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:42.480 In fact, funnily enough, I've had something nasty for the 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:47.160 last two weeks, severe sore throat, cough, shocking red eyes 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:50.120 like Dracula. Haven't made a diagnosis, but. 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:55.520 I'm sorry, here's got something dodgy. I'm here that you're 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.400 baffled on. Yeah, good on you, matte. We've been asking 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:01.520 the question this morning, Clay, yes, no question. Have you 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:04.000 had the flu? Our listeners are saying no flu yet, 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:07.559 says Trucky Carol, yummy homemade soup. Shelley says no flu, 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.560 no shot for over ten years, so at the moment 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:12.480 yet says A ten and nose to twenty four. But 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:14.760 the numbers presenting to the Hill or being recorded by 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:16.800 the Health Department of double what they were last year. 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:20.319 Clay, Yes, in fact, it's very worrying. And remember those 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:23.000 numbers that are diagnosed to the tip, the very tip 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:26.040 of the iceberg. So most flu cases in fact don't 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:28.520 get diagnosed. So you're looking at hundreds of thousands of 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.480 cases potentially probably double what we had last year. And 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:33.280 this is a phenomenon right across Australia. 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:36.120 Yeah, okay, so just remind us, Clay, what's the difference 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:39.040 between a man cold, a cold, and the flu. 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.679 So influenza when it does hit you, it's a really 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:44.959 nasty illness. Most people have got bad flu will say 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:46.959 it hit me like a brick or a train. I 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:48.800 just got knocked over within a couple of hours. So 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:51.440 it's usually much more severe than just a common cold, 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:53.120 which might be a bit of a scratchy throat and 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:56.760 a running nose. With flu, you feel terrible headache, high temperatures, 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:00.280 muscle aches and pains, sore throat, can feel short of 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:01.880 breath too because and get into your lungs as well 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:03.360 and cause in pneumonia, which is one of the things 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:05.520 we really worry about, and that's what we're actually seeing 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:07.319 in our inpatients at the hospital at the moment. We're 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:09.439 seeing a lot more flu than we are COVID and 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:10.880 some of them are very very nasty. 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:15.160 Yeah, all right, so this will happen, so people going 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:17.080 to hospital. I was one of our listeners that went 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.719 for four days at close. So that's the that's the 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:22.360 extreme outcome, isn't it having to go to an ed 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:23.920 and then needing to find. 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:27.160 A bed yep, and you know something end up in ICU. 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.520 So touch wood for us at Hollywood at least we 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:31.480 haven't had a directly attributable death. We had a few 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:34.679 people come close though, So you know, I just keep 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:37.880 reinforcing prevention better than QRE. I do a regular segment 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:40.360 with Ross. You probably here on a Sunday, YEP evening, 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:42.320 and you know, we talk about vaccines all the time, 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:44.800 and the full vaccine. It's not a perfect vaccine, but 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:47.040 it's a good one. That's one we all should have. 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:49.240 It's still free. Our great friends at the w A 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:53.880 Labor government. Can't such be highly enough of them? Do 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:55.439 I sound funny with my tongue on my cheek, But no. 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:57.640 They've made it free from May and June, so and 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.400 they may well extend I don't know for sure, but 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.000 they're talking about extending the free vaccine into July as well. 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:05.880 So if you haven't had it, don't be sangled about it. 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:07.000 Go on and get it done. 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:08.360 All right, Good to talk to you, mate, You do 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:09.959 sound a bit rasciale. Let you get back to the 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:14.120 onion eleven. Good on your mate. Thanks Clay both see 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:17.920 Dr Clay Collige. It's infectious diseases experts. So they've had 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:21.320 some near some close calls. Of Clay's practice is based 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:23.920 up at Hollywood. They've had some near close calls there. 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:29.240 But people presenting to eds with the flu influenza A. 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:31.360 Have you had the flu this season? The yes is 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.120 are ten and the nose a twenty four. Thanks for 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:39.640 sending in your thoughts. Lots of people responding to this today. 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:43.599 Jack says it's an AFL waffle state. That's why the 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:48.640 paper is reported the way they have Jack. So this 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.000 you know, we cover the waffle in this state. We 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:54.320 cover the waffle more than we do state of origin. 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:57.160 Five point four million people watched it the last game 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.760 Australia wide. It's a big deal, Jack, and preciate your thoughts. 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:01.240 Mate. 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:03.280 People don't go to the waffle. I go to the waffle. 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:04.920 There's five hundred people there. 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:05.200 Mate. 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:07.240 They go to the finals and I care about Waffle, 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:10.959 I go, but we're not a you know. That's that 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:17.079 the Waffle gets more coverage than than the than the 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:19.679 state of origin would be my point. I appreciate your thoughts, 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.880 and it is an AFL state, a footy state. We 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:27.719 will know that. Think about this, Jack, if you're a 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:30.280 West Coast supporter and you haven't particularly enjoyed the last 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:33.000 three and a half years, watching the Rabbit O's or 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:36.120 the Dolphins is not a bad option. It's a good game. 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:42.040 One double three at two. Love to hear from you today, Jason. Yes, 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:43.920 I've had the flues on the moderate side of average 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:50.160 at best. Thanks Jackson, good description, mate, that's funny. Love 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:51.800 to hear from you today. It's a bit of a 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:53.680 long bow to compare a game of road between New 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.960 South Wales to Queen to Telethon. I guess the point is, David, 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:59.640 it's about supporting a community event. I know the scale 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:02.200 of tell I get that, but imagine if we imagine 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:04.920 if we're here at six PR refuse to mention telephone 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:09.080 because it's on another network. He's my point. Yes, Telephon's 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:11.000 a massive deal, always has been, always will be, so 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.520 it should it's unreal. Imagine if we didn't give it 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:18.720 a nod. Thanks for listening in today, Thanks for your thoughts. 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.560 Really appreciate it. Baslesample, It's not far away. Twenty four 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:25.720 minutes past nine, Keep your thoughts coming in. Have you 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:27.600 had the flu this season? The nose of twenty five 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:29.960 and the yes are twelve and the yeses are saying 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:32.400 they've been pretty crook on arecms line? Did I? 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:32.680 Greg? 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:34.840 Hey, how are you good? 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:35.120 Thank you? 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:35.800 Thank you? 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:36.960 Yeah? 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:41.560 I got the flu really bad. Ended up with being 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:46.200 rushed into rushed into Fiona Stanley, well straight past. I 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:48.840 knew I was sick when they bypassed all the rampings 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:51.880 guys and took me straight into a into a bead. 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:55.400 That's when I thought, oh, hello, yeah, well how old 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:55.880 are you agreed? 0:14:56.800 --> 0:15:01.200 I'm fifty six and pretty fad yep, and yeah, four 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:03.920 days I spent in the hospital, very very ill. 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:05.520 Yeah all right, matey. 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.040 It's no joke for the I think there was the 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:12.200 call of their saying that the government's faking it or whatever. 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:16.480 Not trust me, you were faking Hey, Greg, how are 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:17.600 you going now? You got better? 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:19.000 Yeah? 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:19.760 Look, you know what. 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:25.240 I'm back at work today and the boys hasn't completely 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:28.680 come back, but I'm otherwise getting back to normal health. 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:30.560 Yeah, it was a shocking. 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:31.040 Couple of weeks there. 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:33.280 Yeah, all right, thanks mate, thanks for talking to us. 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:38.960 Wonderble three A Daddy two. The figures the number of 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:43.760 presentations to the health department have been eighty eighty three 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:47.800 this time. Last year's three four hundred and eighty eight. 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.000 So it's a it's a bad flu season. Quite a 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:52.360 lot of people have been sick here at six PR. 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.520 But be aware and then try and keep your immune 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:59.120 system in half decent neck, get some exercising, some healthy 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:01.160 food and some sleeping, all of that. But it is 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:03.680 a it is a bad flu season. Thanks for to 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:05.320 all our listeners. We've been in touch with us today. 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:08.160 It's twenty seven minutes past nine. This is Perthday. I'm 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:10.800 Simon Beumont. Thanks your thoughts today where we have a yes, 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:13.040 no question for you. Have you had the flu? It's 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:16.720 twice as bad as last year the flu season. No, 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:18.800 I had the flu. Jab This is Linda, Thank you Linda. 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:21.200 Nice to hear from you. Barry said I had a 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:24.680 coral but it was covid no flu if the infectious 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:26.280 disease guys doesn't know what he's got and we have 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:29.440 a problem. It's married from Green. It is Clay Gollige 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.760 for Clay, which it is Clay College we're talking about. 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.360 Can I sorry, Simon, I'm just saying hello, good morning. 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:38.560 I heard you say Clay and I thought, well, that 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.520 must be Clay Gollige talking about infectious diseases. I thought, 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:44.160 but it doesn't sound like the Clay that I know. 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:47.160 It mustn't be Clay Gollege. And then the more I listened, 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:48.640 I thought, oh no, maybe it is how he's crook 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:50.640 is he is crooked and he's not sure what it 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:54.440 is has. This is a guy who is at the 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:58.240 absolute top of his profession, like Clay is recognized, there's 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:00.240 not only one of the best in the world in 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:04.080 infectious in Australia in infectious diseases, but globally goes all 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:05.680 over the place lecturing and giving. 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:07.760 And he's been sick for two weeks. He doesn't know 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.920 what he's got. That's that's not great. It's not what 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:13.920 we want to hear it is. It is not Steve 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:17.920 says fourth day, feeling like kaka, which is Italian word. 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:20.399 I think wife has it too, and Greek and is 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:24.720 it the same for the same thing, is it yep, yeah, yeah, 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:27.600 it might be slang in both languages actually, but s 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:31.080 h yeah, you get where we're going. You're same, ladies 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:32.600 and gentlemen. It's that time of the week help us 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:34.680 nine on a Wednesday where we get to welcome the 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:37.840 state opposition leader Basil Zamplus into the studio. Basil, thank 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:39.520 you for coming in. Hello Bowie, lovely to be with 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:42.520 you again, and good morning everybody. Three weeks listening hearing 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:45.879 speaking to a finished of Finny now done and no, 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:46.359 well it. 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.800 Rolls on, and so all of our engagement and certainly 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:52.240 my engagement around the state and the around the metro 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:56.560 area where I've branded as a listening to only because 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.120 it makes it very clear what it is. And coming 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:02.400 off the last elect as you've heard me say previously, 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:05.960 there's a need for our state parliamentary team that certainly 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:08.240 means the leader to connect and reconnect if you like, 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:12.240 with the liberal values and brand in the community. And 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:16.040 so the most recent visits have been to the Pilbra 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:20.200 and a really good insight for me exmounth Port, Headland 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:23.639 and also Caratha and the issues that they have and 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:25.120 the great strength that those. 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:27.800 Regions have as well. So if have you heard anything 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:31.400 that has surprised you, I wasn't expecting. 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:35.320 Yeah, well I and as I say this, this is 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:38.240 exactly why somebody in my position needs to go out 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:40.159 because I have been well aware that we have a 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:44.040 housing crisis in Perth. That's been very clear to me, 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:47.159 certainly my previous role as Lord Mayor and in my 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:50.760 formative stages of this parliamentary career and obviously representing the 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:53.720 people of church Lands. But to go up north and 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:57.719 see how grave the situation is up there with housing, 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:02.679 public housing, construction of how release of land fore housing, 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:05.159 it is very clear to me now that this is 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:09.840 a statewide epidemic. We just can't get enough housing for 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:12.679 the people that we need. And it's particularly relevant up 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:15.639 in the towns of Karratha and Port Headland and Xmount 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:18.960 for example, because they want to grow their communities. You 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:24.159 grow your community by providing more services and opportunities for 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:26.480 the people who live there. But to do that you 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:28.840 need more people living there. And if you can't get 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:32.440 houses built, you can't grow those communities. And so this 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:36.720 is the seriousness of the situation. It's not just about 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:39.800 what's happening here in the city. It's also what's happening 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:41.920 in our state. And if we want to continue to 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:45.600 grow our state, to remain the economic powerhouse that it is, 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:48.720 we need to find ways to get more housing into 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:49.800 our statewides. 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:52.040 So what are the people living in Karratha and Heaven 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:53.960 who need more housing saying to you? And the people 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:56.040 in the wheat belt in the great Southern what are 0:19:56.040 --> 0:20:00.359 they saying? Is it to do with releasing land essions 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:02.960 from Western power for headworks? Is it to do is 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:05.879 labor builders stock? What is it? Or is it all 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:09.199 of those? Yeah, so it really is all of the above. 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:11.639 There is a great frustration though, certainly in the regional 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:13.800 centers about the release of land. They do feel that 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:17.640 it is not happening fast enough and that it does 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.720 get delayed. There's a huge element of bureaucracy around it. 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:24.479 And the other thing that everybody listening who's traveled our 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:26.680 great state would know, And I've traveled to our great state, 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:28.919 but a long time since I've been to Port Headland, 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:35.120 Kafa and Xmount specifically, there is vast amounts of land. 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:36.680 The one thing that we shouldn't have a problem with 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:40.080 in wa is Land, but land release is an issue. 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:42.480 It doesn't happen fast enough and it's not happening in 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:45.800 the right areas. Next Amount, for example, has a large 0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:48.639 plot of land that the state government have said they 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:51.560 are going to release, intend to release, but for two 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:54.159 years now it's just been sitting there and the shire 0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:57.000 are ready to go, the locals are ready to go, 0:20:57.359 --> 0:20:59.560 but the land has not been released, and it is 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:02.879 wholly the growth of the whole region of. 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:05.480 X Mouth back. Basil's mplus is with us, if you 0:21:05.480 --> 0:21:07.800 want to call it, you cam Wonderble three A eighty two. 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:11.919 We had Caroline Spencer, the Auditor General in yesterday Basis 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:14.560 you're standing right where you're standing at the moment, and 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:16.800 it was a fairly grim tale. One point six billion 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:21.760 of cost overruns, particularly around it in major projects, and 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:23.520 one of them is around the fact that we still 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:26.200 don't have tap and go on their buses, ferries and 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:28.679 trains have a listen to this. This is David Hines, 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:32.280 former media guy for the PTA. This is the twenty 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:35.040 ninth of December Basil twenty twenty two. 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:38.440 I expect probably by the end of twenty twenty three 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:40.520 is when we're looking at at the moment to have 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:43.320 a system which you'll be able to use your phone, 0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:47.360 a credit card or any wearables of you know, your 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:50.240 Apple watch and so on to do your tag with. 0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:53.240 And we like Heinze, we always liked him. Good fellap 0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:56.320 so and he's he's got that information in front of him. 0:21:56.480 --> 0:22:00.520 He believes it. That's twenty twenty two and one. Spencer 0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:03.320 was in here yesterday saying this is seventy running seventy 0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:04.359 eight months late. 0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:07.600 Six and a half years, six and a half years, 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:10.120 and so for those and sometimes he ordered a general's 0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:13.239 reports can although she's excellent when communicating them, they can 0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:15.960 be hard to fully understand and get your head around. 0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:18.879 I get it, big numbers projects you're not necessarily familiar with. 0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:22.320 And this audit was into ten it projects. The state 0:22:22.359 --> 0:22:25.520 government are responsible for rolling out ten of those projects, 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:28.800 and they are at least one point six billion dollars 0:22:29.160 --> 0:22:33.240 or more over, so huge overruns but also not getting 0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:36.440 them delivered. But here's the thing about the project that 0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:39.440 you've mentioned specifically, I think it helps us all understand 0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:42.119 what we're talking about here. Now, there's no one in 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:44.680 the world currently who doesn't use their phone to tap 0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:46.359 and go and do all of those things when they 0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:49.320 buy their coffee, by their shopping, do their internet banking 0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:52.320 and other things. But you can't do that on our 0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:55.879 trains or buses. They can do it in Sydney and 0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:57.639 they can do it in Melbourne, but they can't do 0:22:57.720 --> 0:23:00.480 it in Perth. And we've been waiting six and a 0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:04.400 half years for this to be rolled out. And why 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:07.720 is that relevant, Simon, Because when we talk about getting 0:23:07.880 --> 0:23:11.120 things done, we talk about them getting done on time 0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:13.679 and getting down on budget. 0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:14.840 And here's an. 0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:17.760 Example of neither of those two things happening six and 0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:21.240 a half years. Is the delay for the implementation of 0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:24.440 this technology that most people now would consider an everyday 0:23:24.520 --> 0:23:26.520 part of life in all of our areas of life, 0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:29.880 but not on public transport. And the overrun is part 0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:33.880 of the one point six billion dollar overrun in these 0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:37.080 IT projects. That's not acceptable and it goes to the 0:23:37.280 --> 0:23:40.879 delivery on time and on budget of this state government. 0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:43.080 It's an area that they are falling down in badly. 0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:46.800 So Olie is very cleverly picked up listening to Caroline. 0:23:46.800 --> 0:23:49.920 They said, big deal, these numbers are appalling. Big deal. 0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:52.960 She's put it in a report nothing's going to happen. 0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:56.399 So I put that back to you and perhaps to 0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:59.280 not having a having for a period of time a 0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:03.959 genuine content soviety is politically so we do what according 0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:06.159 to well, list what's going to change, Well, they've got 0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:08.920 ninety million members in Parliament, what's going to change? 0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:11.280 Well, we have to We simply have to keep the 0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:13.440 pressure on. It's up to the opposition to continue to 0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:16.240 raise these things on behalf of the public of Western Australia. 0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:19.000 The public of Western Australia through talkback radio and other 0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:22.120 forums have a role to play in that as well. 0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:25.400 What we have to do primarily is let the state 0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:29.600 government know that it's not acceptable, that we expect far 0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:33.800 better and if people in Sydney and Melbourne when they're 0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:36.520 getting on the ferries or the buses or the trains 0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:39.879 can use their mobile phone to tap and go like 0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:43.119 you can with lots of other things here in WA. 0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:46.480 Why is the state government's delay now at six and 0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:48.960 a half years and part of a one point six 0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:53.920 billion dollar overrun, And I'd suggest simon it's because this state. 0:24:53.800 --> 0:24:56.359 Government's priorities have been in other areas. 0:24:56.400 --> 0:24:59.560 Now the irony of this, I suppose the great irony 0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:03.320 of this is that one of those priorities has been Metraine. 0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:06.520 We know that no one would disagree. The state government 0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:10.200 wouldn't disagree. There's a ten billion dollar overrun on that. 0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:13.399 But here's the irony. They're building all of these trains, 0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:18.119 they are crowing about how popular they are or are 0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:21.440 going to be, and yet they are denying people the 0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:26.120 basic technology that would make experiencing those trains or using 0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:28.760 them that much easier and something that we would all 0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:31.639 expect now in twenty twenty five we'd be able to do, 0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:34.760 and we're told that it could be another year, year 0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:37.359 and a half, so it'd be an eight year delay 0:25:37.440 --> 0:25:39.840 in the end, an eight year delay to get this 0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:40.760 technology working. 0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:43.520 It's not good enough. Yeah, it wasn't lost in our 0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:46.600 listens yesterday, bas that's for sure. The other two highlights 0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:51.800 that Caroline Spencer Spencer mentioned yesterday was the technology around 0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:55.399 the high speed trains and the ability for signaling she reckons. 0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:59.280 That's a bigger one than the smart rider one. That's 0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:01.240 a big blowout. And the other ones you mentioned was 0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:04.880 the portal for the registry of firearms. On your listening tour, 0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:07.200 what are regional people saying to you about the gun 0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:09.399 buyback system and the actual portal. 0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:11.960 Yeah, well, there's no doubt, there is no doubt that 0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:15.199 this rollout has not been effective. It has not been 0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:21.199 efficient and has caused legitimate firearms owners difficulty in trying 0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:25.040 to comply with the new regulations. As you know, those 0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:28.040 regulations have now been sent via the numbers in the 0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:30.920 Upper House to a committee and so there will be 0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:36.919 a great examination of that those regulations to see if 0:26:36.960 --> 0:26:40.560 they can't be improved and made better and more user 0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:43.159 friendly to the people who they have captured in the 0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:45.359 wrong way. And there's been admissions from state government that 0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:47.240 they haven't got that right. The Police Minister has said 0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:50.600 that a number of times. I heard very clearly that 0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:55.639 responsible firearms owners feel as though they have been unfairly treated, 0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:58.040 that they've been caught up in the wrong way. And 0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:00.600 then even when trying to do the right thing, ie 0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:04.320 going onto the system, registering, doing all of the things 0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:06.680 that are asked of them, it is not an easy 0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:09.960 process and that's unfair on them because this was not 0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:14.280 intended to be a punishment to those people. It was 0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:17.840 intended to take those firearms that the wrong people have 0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:21.879 out of their hands. Now, there's no questioning the spirit 0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:24.520 of that. Nobody wants the wrong people to have more 0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:28.000 firearms in their hands, no one, But we want the 0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:31.000 responsible firearms owners to be able to do what they 0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:31.440 need to do. 0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:35.320 Speaking of committees that have been formed, it was a 0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:37.520 couple of weeks ago after the very sad death of 0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:40.000 a pedestrian in the city. I spoke to you, I 0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:42.800 think on the Monday and you you're urging calm. We 0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:45.159 don't need to have a knee jerk reaction here. The 0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:47.160 highest scooters were taken out of the city of Perth. 0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:51.000 You're all Patch and out of Vincent as well, with 0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:53.320 a benefit of a couple of weeks and then there 0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:56.520 has been a bipartisan parliamentary committee formed on these scooters. 0:27:57.000 --> 0:27:59.400 We told our listeners earlier this week that scooter Heart 0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:02.919 and and Scooterou too. The big shops in Perth are 0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:05.280 looking to close down and some have closed down already 0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:11.159 three weeks later. What's your thoughts on e scooters and 0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:13.440 what could be looming as a sort of the death 0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:15.840 of the black scooter, the ownership of them, and in 0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:19.480 particular how we're enforcing that they behave themselves to the writers. 0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:22.280 Yeah, I've always had a bit of an issue with 0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:28.439 scooters in densely populated pedestrian areas, being on the footpaths, 0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:30.760 and in those areas and for example the pay Street mall, 0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:34.840 where the technology should shut them down. In the case 0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:38.120 of the e writables, the ones that you hire Jagan 0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:41.479 Square for example, or Elizabeth Key, that is where there 0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:45.560 could be serious issues, and tragically we saw exactly that 0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:49.720 sort of event happen in the CBDA. I think the 0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:53.200 progression of this now to a committee to look at 0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:56.360 all of the factors is really sensible and really important. 0:28:56.760 --> 0:29:00.400 I do think the wrong thing to do be for 0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:02.920 a knee jerk reaction and just say ban them all, 0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:06.440 although I absolutely understand why people are almost at the 0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:09.600 end of their tether with the e writables that come 0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:14.880 around souped up writers not wearing helmets, and writers getting 0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:19.000 perilously close to other vehicles or two pedestrians, and so 0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:24.160 making sure the regulations and the enforcement of those regulations 0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:28.800 is tight and right is important. Now the committee might say. Ultimately, 0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:30.520 the committee might say, you know what, We've looked at it, 0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:32.760 and we've looked at other parts of the world, and 0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:36.640 in our view, they're dangerous and shouldn't be allowed. And 0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:39.600 if that's the case, then fair enough. I would understand that. 0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:41.880 But I think it's right that it gets the proper 0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:46.520 prosecution and examination through a committee of the Parliament of 0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:48.480 Western Australia, and that's what it's going to get. 0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:51.680 Thank you Basil's emphasis. Can we take some calls, Bazz, 0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:54.600 I'm going to call in wonderble three eight eighty two. 0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:59.360 Fionass simon another government priorities tourism, how tourism tourists meant 0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:03.200 to pay for fairy buses, et cetera without a smart rider? 0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:05.200 And John says, what about the much hyped and promised 0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:07.760 hospital and Yan chep why not take labor on on 0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:09.760 the cost overruns what they did in the backup of 0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:12.280 their promised hospital And John, that's interesting because that sort 0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:14.240 of goes to the train station out there as well. 0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:17.160 You build the infrastructure and then hopefully people will come. 0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:20.200 But I appreciate John and Fiona your your thoughts. Sixteen 0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:22.000 and a half minutes to ten o'clock more of Baz 0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:24.160 after these one double three eighty two. I'd liked to 0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.360 have a chat to Basil Zemplus today he's here to 0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:29.720 take your course. He's with us every Wednesday fortnight. I 0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:32.240 think one of the first things we did when I 0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:34.080 came back to the chair is bas and I had 0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:35.600 a chat when he was the Lord Mayor and we 0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:37.240 put it to the vote and the yes has had it? 0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:37.720 Was it yes? 0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:39.920 No question? Was here you are? Was it your first 0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:40.640 yes no question? 0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:41.840 Yeah? 0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:44.640 I think it was thank you? And about thirty people 0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:47.880 said no, and you said that they were all all 0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:53.080 labor people. It was Daniel Pastorrelli on doc says, but 0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:53.960 how many were the yeses? 0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:54.120 Though? 0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:56.040 They were overwhelming with yeah, Well here I am. So 0:30:56.160 --> 0:31:01.800 it's pretty comprehenive obviously having you in one du three 0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:04.600 eight two if you'd like to give us a shout today. 0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:08.120 And another one of the topics we've covered extensively probably 0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:11.240 the last three months, Basil has been vaping, illegal vaping. 0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:14.400 We asked a question yesterday have vapes won the war 0:31:14.480 --> 0:31:17.560 on vapes? And it was an overwhelming yes. And I 0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:19.320 spoke to Cole Blanch yesterday and he said, well, it's 0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:22.280 not up to us to police vaping. We're not sending 0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:26.200 undercover cops into convenience stores. It's the health department. Have 0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:28.400 you got any thoughts on illegal vaping and do you 0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:29.640 think we've lost the war on them? 0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:31.840 Well, it does feel that way, it doesn't. I'll say 0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:33.640 this more as a dad than I do as the 0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:37.240 leader of the opposition. It does feel as though we're 0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:41.600 almost powerless and without sort of wanting to give too 0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:46.400 much away of weekend sports conversations in other parental groups. 0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:49.239 So I think there is a sense that kids at 0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:52.040 a certain time in their life are probably going to 0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:55.240 give that a go. Now, of course, as parents, you're 0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:57.960 always trying to educate your kids about the good things 0:31:58.000 --> 0:31:59.960 to do in life and the things that they should 0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:03.080 probably try and stay away from. But then also as parents, 0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:05.120 you're trying to build in those mechanisms, aren't you that 0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:09.800 if your kids might make some poorish decisions, they've got 0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:13.160 they've got some values to fall back on that ultimately 0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:14.360 will say well, I've had a bit of a go 0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:14.640 at that. 0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:16.080 That's no good. I need to move away. 0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:18.960 It is a real issue for our community, an issue 0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:21.160 for our society. I'm sure many people listening will go, well, 0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:23.320 this was the issue that we faced with our kids 0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:27.240 with cigarette smoking, and so it's probably not a lot different. 0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:30.920 It's probably not a lot different, but it is. It 0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:33.520 is there, There's no doubt, and it gets spoken a lot, 0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:36.680 a lot by parental groups. 0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:38.600 I know that I guess the point of sale thing 0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:40.760 interests me, and you know you. If you and I 0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:43.880 drove out to a domestic airport today, are out to 0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:47.080 a MinRes landing spot. Most people getting off the flight 0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:49.280 having a chill as soon as they get These are 0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:53.200 older people, right, these are mine workers, so that we're 0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:54.520 people are finding a way to buy them. 0:32:54.680 --> 0:33:00.280 I think what probably alarms us as people who would 0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:03.720 like to think we're able to influence how our state 0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:07.840 runs is the anecdotal conversations that we're here and here 0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:11.320 on talkback radio where oh that shop down there, everybody 0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:13.080 knows you can go in there and buy your vapes. 0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:15.960 And it always seems a bit weird, doesn't it when 0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:19.440 the talkback callers will tell you exactly where those stores are. 0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:22.320 The taxi drivers and the uber drivers will tell you. 0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:25.840 Probably many of the teenage kid cohort and slightly older 0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:27.880 will be able to tell you. Yet for whatever reason, 0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:30.440 we seem powerless to be able to stop it. Now 0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:33.560 we know we're not powerless because if a state government 0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:36.640 decides that is going to be a priority. They can 0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:39.920 crack down on it, and so I suppose ultimately it 0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:42.800 then does go back as cole Blant said, it goes 0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:45.360 back to health and ultimately the state government, and if 0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:48.160 they make a decision we're not going to allow that 0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:50.480 to continue. We're not going to allow the growth of 0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:54.920 that industry, the underground industry. Then they can do something 0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:56.600 about it. It's very clear in the Act what you 0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:58.800 can and can't do. But as you say, no one's 0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:01.840 doing anything about it. It's not a priority. Robin's found 0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:02.480 in Cada Robin. 0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:08.200 Oh, hello, both and Bowie. Now, I'm just looking at 0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:11.920 the first come buyas this is for an adult children, 0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:15.360 which I can't wait for them to leave home. But 0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:20.960 the stamp duty, they have a concession and it cuts out. 0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:23.960 They did raise it from the Grand Summer four thirty 0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:28.880 five to four point fifty. Now it's basically that it 0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:32.800 starts to cut down at five hundred. So there's not 0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:36.040 many houses in Perth for less than five hundred, as 0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:38.520 we're all aware, five hundred thousand. 0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:39.040 Sorry. 0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:44.600 And also the other issue that I've just looked, I've 0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:45.040 been looking. 0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:47.960 I'm reading this right now off of the latest. 0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:54.520 Print out there stamp Sorry, the medium house price in 0:34:54.680 --> 0:35:03.920 Perth and it's seven seventy five thousand. Threshold is the 0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:09.240 upper threshold where it cuts out totally. It's seven hundred thousand. 0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:13.279 So Robin, are you asking about You're saying there should 0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:17.799 be more concessions for or more concessions for concession card 0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:21.080 holds around stamp duty and downsizing or right sizing, whatever 0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:21.440 you call it. 0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:26.160 Yes, but also it could be even now the region 0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:32.080 our in the Perth region, the medium house bryce is 0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:35.920 seven to seventy five in the region it's five hundred 0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:39.640 and thirty five thousand, according that SI average. 0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:43.560 Yeah, all right, and so Robin's point is that those 0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:46.160 concessions are not really going to make much difference. You're 0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:47.440 just not going to be able to get into the 0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:50.239 market and enjoy the benefits of those concessions or even 0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:52.080 go from a big place to a small place. That's 0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:54.960 true now in terms of the first home buyers, we 0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:57.719 note that there was a concession available from the state 0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:01.520 government and at the last election the Liberal Party also 0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:04.400 took a platform with a concession. It was a bigger concession. 0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:08.680 But interestingly, Simon, there's an election coming up in South 0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:12.000 Australia in the not too distant future. They have started 0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:13.920 to outline their policies and the. 0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:15.560 Liberal just by the buy. 0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:18.640 The Liberal Party in South Australia has announced over the 0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:22.360 weekend abolishing stamp duty for first home buyers on existing 0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:26.120 properties of up to one million dollars. Now, I'm not 0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:28.920 saying that that is a policy specifically that the Liberal 0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:31.480 Party of Western Australia will take to the next election, 0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:35.279 but it is clear the sorts of leavers that and 0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:39.120 mechanisms that can be brought into being, and I think 0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:42.560 we would all agree on. Effectively, we're summarizing what Robin said, 0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:45.120 the concessions that are on offer at the moment don't 0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:47.200 help enough people. In fact that they almost don't help 0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:49.600 anyone because you can't get into the market for that price. 0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:52.680 And interesting that in South Australia in the lead up 0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:56.440 to an election a similar idea, but the number that 0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:59.720 they've come up with is up to one million dollars, 0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:03.080 and I would think that we're going to need to 0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:06.120 look at those sorts of incentives at that sort of 0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:10.000 scale if we're going to make a difference to first 0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:11.800 home buyers being able to purchase. 0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:15.480 Yeah, and there is also an argument that first pumping 0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:18.200 throwing money at first home buyers doesn't necessarily help the 0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:23.800 overall position of not having enough stock for anybody. Thank you, Basil. 0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:27.520 This one here from Elizabeth. Hi Mary, we'll meet you 0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:29.560 the coffee club just realized and made a meeting point. 0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:32.239 See you shortly. I think that's kind of the wrong plart, 0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:35.200 wrong with the person. Yeah, I wonder which coffee club. 0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:38.640 I don't know. Have you got a favorite? Two favorites 0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:38.840 for me? 0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:42.360 One in Forest Place, yes, just off Forest Place, and 0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:43.879 the one at the Florid Form Yeah. 0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:46.839 I think there's Hazel goes to school out in the valley. 0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:48.640 There's a good one out in Ellenbrook. There's a lot 0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:51.600 of coffee clubs that very reliable, very life, very reliable. 0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:53.640 Thank you, Basil, well done. Thank you for having a 0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:59.160 chat to another Basil in or it's like you never left, 0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:02.239 you never left, Basil in all seriousness, When when can 0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:04.160 you get west Birth back at lead of Oval back 0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:04.719 when they need to? 0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:06.640 But we do play four games there a year, our 0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:10.120 away games against SUBI and against Ease Perth, and I've 0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:12.400 got to say they're my favorite West Perth fixtures of 0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:15.360 the year. Because going back there, I've taken Anthony a 0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:16.880 couple of times and so this is what it used 0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:18.680 to be. Like mate, how good is it West Perth 0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:21.640 playing and leedable and then a coffee or a yochi afterwards. 0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:24.600 We're a journal up now. That's been great for the club. 0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:27.480 That's been actually a huge part of our modern success. 0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:30.680 But the sentimentalists and the many people listening who remember 0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:32.759 West Perth at lead of all Overal, they were glory days. 0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:34.560 And imagine being in East Perth support like me and 0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:36.359 you haven't got an oval and having to walk in there, 0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:40.279 well you're old over you're a OVAL's rectangular now dead 0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:43.359 sick crook in the gut, so would hurt good you too? 0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:44.879 Thank you for coming in or seeing a fortnite good 0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:48.520 basils and plus the leader of the opposition, you voted 0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:50.040 for him to come back in and he'll be with 0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:52.640 us every fortnight. We've got a great story for you 0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:56.920 after ten. We have talked so many times about how 0:38:57.080 --> 0:39:00.680 bureaucracy treats people in a means brooded way. We've got 0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:04.320 a really nice story for you after ten, involving powers 0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:08.640 of attorney, an older lady who's unwell with dementia treated 0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:16.400 beautifully by the authority. Stay listening. Tp KC says in 0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:19.960 New Zealand, there's no stamp duty. Thank you Tom and 0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:22.120 Christine who always likes to put a couple of kisses 0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:25.440 on the her sms's thank you Christine. No flu here 0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:27.320 at an early flu shot to travel with work to 0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:31.840 treat so far. Jeff says, yes, I've had influides in 0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:34.880 influenza A ANDB. My wife was hospitalized with A and 0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:37.600 shared it with me, sharing his caring Thanks Jeff, have 0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:39.720 you had the flu this season? The yeses are eighteen 0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:43.160 and the nose thirty one at this stage. So lots 0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:50.239 of our listeners have have been crook stamp duty stamp dued. 0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:52.480 I think stamp duty is ridiculous to be charged once 0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:59.560 first bought property and peppery's peppery peppery auction should not 0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:01.839 be allowed unless the present houses. Christ there's only people 0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:03.399 on the high end that get the opportunity to buy 0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:07.239 thanks to that correspondent. So yeah, we talk about stamp 0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:09.800 duty a lot. And as Basil said, the trying to 0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:12.360 resolve the housing Cristi and it is massive in the regions. 0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:15.560 A lot of you know, a lot of regional operations, 0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:18.800 privates and public find it difficult to get housing for 0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:21.440 people and it's the probably the number one issue in 0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:24.560 regional w A is the housing shortage and it's complex, 0:40:25.640 --> 0:40:28.400 no one answer having it here from me, I've got 0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:32.719 a really nice, heartwarming story about how a government bureaucracy 0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:37.520 dealt with a woman yesterday who has advanced dementia. Stay listening. 0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:39.520 I'm Simon Benmont ten o'clock now. 0:40:46.640 --> 0:41:03.200 On Perth six PR. This is Perth Today with Simon Beaumont. Yeah, 0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:05.360 thanks for listening in. I'm Simon beau Mine. So we 0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:07.440 are here until one o'clock. I love to hear from 0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:10.120 you one double three, eight to eighty two. Thanks for 0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:12.880 all your correspondence. Have you had the flu this season? 0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:16.000 The nose are thirty one and the yeses are eighteen 0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:19.640 and they're coming in thick and fast from our listeners. 0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:21.480 Kylie says, I haven't had the flu, of had my 0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:24.680 flu shot. My extended family in the Pilberg all had 0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:26.440 the flu a few weeks ago. All said it was 0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:29.919 the most unwell I've ever been. Thanks Kylie, that's no good. 0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:33.640 Keith Keith Simon, wife and kids have had long colds, 0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:36.279 but when tested not out any of the three. I've 0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:38.040 only got a flu bax two weeks ago before they 0:41:38.080 --> 0:41:42.200 did simply a no for me. Thanks Keith, appreciate that, mate, 0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:45.360 and we would love to hear from you today. 0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:50.600 Have you had have you had the flu? Around double 0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:52.359 the number of cases we had to add this time 0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:55.640 last year in terms of Health Department numbers. Spoke to 0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:58.279 Clay Gollies and he says, well, a lot of flu. 0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:02.680 He's not captured in that data, so it's probably more 0:42:03.000 --> 0:42:05.200 so it's a bad flu season. Right eight minutes past ten, 0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:08.680 I'd love to hear from you today, still to come 0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:12.480 on the show. A number of allied health services that 0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:16.840 families can access through the NDIS through the National Disability 0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:21.600 Insurance Scheme might be under threat. So these are things 0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:28.719 like speak, speech pathology, OT physiotherapy services, et cetera. Because 0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:32.960 these little businesses haven't had an increase in their fees, 0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:36.719 their service fees from NDIS for six years. Bringing that 0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:40.920 story just a moment. Speech pathology in particular is incredibly 0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:44.200 important for people who live with a disability, whether their 0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:47.400 little kids learning to speak or whether they're adults. Speech 0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:52.040 pathology is right in the middle of all that. So 0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:55.440 we'll talk to a business owner in just a moment. 0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:57.560 The writings on the wall for a lot of businesses 0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:01.120 that receive money from the NDIS, and the fees haven't 0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:03.799 gone up for six years for these businesses, and they're 0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:06.279 feeling pretty disgruntled, and a lot of them are going 0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:09.160 to the wall. Cover that story in just a moment. 0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:11.440 And I wanted to say so many times here on 0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:14.880 this show and on other shows and six PR, we 0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:19.240 hear about bureaucracies and big systems and big government departments 0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:23.120 being mean to people and being bureaucratic with people. Well, 0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:26.120 we've got the opposite story right here this morning. I reckon. 0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:28.560 Amanda joins us. Now, Hi, Amanda at Simon, how are. 0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:30.080 You going great? 0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:30.319 Thanks? 0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:30.600 Simon? 0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:33.440 How are you going well? So I believe this happened yesterday, 0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:36.719 and this is involves a power of the powers of 0:43:36.719 --> 0:43:42.560 attorney meeting with SAT with stated administered tributleness, and it's 0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:44.880 worked out pretty well. Tell our listeners to what happened. 0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:49.440 Well, just my mum's been diagnosed with early dimentia, but 0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:53.000 it's progressing quite quickly. So, yeah, she's been assessed by 0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:55.600 the doctor and you know, they've concluded that she can 0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:59.239 no longer make financial another decision, so hence having to 0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:04.279 go down the road of appointing us and during power 0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:07.240 of attorney. So which men going to the SAT yesterday? 0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:10.600 And our whole fan like myself and my sister and 0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:14.040 two brothers and sister in law and yeah, and my 0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:16.840 niece came and my dad. So but it was a 0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:20.000 really pretty nervous about it. But it just turned out 0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:23.960 that the senior member that was on the bench yesterday, 0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:29.600 she just made my mom. She was so empowered, so respected. 0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:32.840 It was all about my mum, and it was just 0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:36.400 it turned out to what was could have been, you know, 0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:42.480 a bad situation. You know, we just left feeling as though, yeah, 0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:45.719 the senior member just did the best by our mum. 0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:48.640 And so yeah, I was really really pleased with the process. 0:44:49.000 --> 0:44:51.880 Yeah that's good, isn't it. So was there twelve that 0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:52.960 there was twelve of you? 0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:59.440 Yes? Yeah, yeah, the whole families turned up and we 0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:02.479 went what to expect because we weren't sure, like because 0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:04.239 you hear so many bad I guess that's why they 0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:07.279 have the SAT so that you know, not anyone can 0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:09.560 sign over the parents, you know, in during kind of 0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:14.480 attorneys if your parents are you know, yes, you know struggling. 0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:17.040 So yeah, I guess that's We weren't too sure why 0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:19.360 because we're all happy for my brother to be appointed 0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:21.640 that so we weren't too sure what, you know. 0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:22.520 What to expect. 0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:25.400 But yeah, it was just all about my mum and 0:45:25.960 --> 0:45:28.879 what she wanted and yeah, just my mom felt really 0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:33.560 respected and valued and she felt very specially important because 0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:36.040 the senior member just kept honing in on my mum 0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:38.640 and what my mom wanted and what made her happy 0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:41.479 and things like that. Well, yeah, it was really great. 0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:43.719 She's she was the most important person in the room. 0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:46.279 Can watch you watch your mum's name, Amanda, what's your 0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:49.040 first Margaret? Margaret? So Margaret got well looked after. 0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:50.839 Hey, yes she did. 0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:53.440 Yeah, so what do you do You get a sense 0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:57.640 that the senior member of the panel, it was the experience, 0:45:57.800 --> 0:46:00.160 was it her own personality? Was it her character? Is 0:46:00.680 --> 0:46:04.360 was it ultimately enduring power attorneys about all of that? 0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:07.359 Yeah, yeah, just all of that and just being able 0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:11.239 to focus in on where mum was at and just 0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:16.120 making sure that yeah, obviously she could see that the 0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:20.080 family unit that she's my mom's got is there, you know, 0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:23.160 we're all united and everything, but just still the way 0:46:23.239 --> 0:46:25.520 that she honed in on my mom. Yeah, and just 0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:28.680 really got a feel for who my mum was and everything. 0:46:28.840 --> 0:46:31.560 And yeah, she just really I felt like she was 0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:33.839 on our page and yeah, she was very good. 0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:37.040 Yeah, interesting, and yeah, as you say, if twelve of 0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:40.160 you dudes turned up, I guess the panel members going, oh, 0:46:40.200 --> 0:46:41.600 well this is this is good. 0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:45.680 We're yeah, yeah, it. 0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:47.480 Wasn't, just like rather there. I know, it's quite a 0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:51.439 complex situation because it's a family farm involved and other 0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:54.000 bits and pieces, so it's not. It wasn't you know, 0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:57.479 totally straightforward. But yeah, we all it was. It wasn't. 0:46:57.760 --> 0:47:01.320 It is a bad situation, and we just left feeling 0:47:01.719 --> 0:47:03.000 it that it went really well. 0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:06.440 Yeah, really nice to talk to you. Thanks for reaching out, 0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:08.319 and I'm glad it went well. That's good for your 0:47:08.400 --> 0:47:09.880 mum and good for you for you guys, for the 0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:10.440 whole family. 0:47:10.520 --> 0:47:13.000 Hey, yeah, and thanks for hearing my story. 0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:15.719 Thanks, Amanda. Cheers, Amanda. So that happened yesterday. Happy to 0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:18.600 take your calls on that. We do talk about bureaucracies 0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:22.360 being mean to people, systems being mean to people, you know, 0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:25.600 people falling through the cracks. We talk about those stories 0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:28.120 all the time. Just wonder how these things happened. Isn't 0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:31.480 that nice? An active kindness from the state of administive 0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:35.400 tribunal because of the senior panel leader focused on the 0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:37.160 job at hand and took note of what was happening 0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:40.080 and happy to take your call today. When people being 0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:41.759 nice to you? When's the system being nice to you? 0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:44.840 One double three A to eighty two is the is 0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:49.319 the phone number pub down in Frio of the week 0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:51.879 I left my I left my credit card on the floor, 0:47:52.440 --> 0:47:53.840 pub Dan and three hung on to it for me 0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:55.480 for a couple of weeks until I've worked out and 0:47:55.560 --> 0:48:00.440 backtracked what I'd done. Nice, nice, active kindness. People are good, 0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:04.040 aren't They? Mostly are people mostly good listeners. One double 0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:06.200 three A daddy two. Love to hear from you today. 0:48:07.360 --> 0:48:09.480 You know when people be nice and kind and good 0:48:09.520 --> 0:48:12.319 and caring compassionate to you or a member of your gang, 0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:15.479 give me shout talk back topic for you. One double 0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:18.560 three A daddy two You crooked. 0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:21.399 Oh mate, crook of a dog mate, trying to trying 0:48:21.440 --> 0:48:23.400 to do your work at work. If you lifting up 0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:25.400 a pen is like lifting up a dumbell you know, 0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:29.600 you just got no power at all just to just 0:48:29.680 --> 0:48:32.080 to a sertin the parget, just not not to the death. 0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:32.840 How long. 0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:38.000 Was eventually just like yesterday and then you try to 0:48:39.120 --> 0:48:41.560 you've had people at work, work in the conditioned office. 0:48:41.880 --> 0:48:46.160 Yeah yeah, just to catch around everywhere. But yeah, and 0:48:46.280 --> 0:48:47.160 I had the flu shop. 0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:49.120 Four weeks ago, so yeah, okay, all right. 0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:54.800 Just one other thing, Bobie in regards to like the 0:48:55.000 --> 0:48:58.719 rugby and or that, and the you know, not advertising 0:48:58.920 --> 0:49:01.000 on the paper and that I was actually watching the 0:49:01.040 --> 0:49:03.920 FIFA World Cup on Foxtoel last night. And how much 0:49:04.040 --> 0:49:07.919 promotion that the Queensland government has been doing for coming 0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:12.759 purvis the Sunshine Coast is absolutely insane. You know, it 0:49:12.800 --> 0:49:15.600 would be like every break that has been pumped into 0:49:15.800 --> 0:49:17.360 wa doors. 0:49:18.200 --> 0:49:20.800 Yeah yeah, thanks Stein. And that we'll probably see that 0:49:20.880 --> 0:49:23.360 on the coverage tonight if you so. The way the 0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:25.239 coverage works the state of origin, if you haven't seen 0:49:25.280 --> 0:49:28.120 it before, is nine free to wear have the rights 0:49:28.160 --> 0:49:31.760 and then all the other Foxes and KOs and all 0:49:31.760 --> 0:49:33.880 the streaming kicks in after the game's finished, so you 0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:35.920 will notice that. But I reckon you'll see some advertising 0:49:35.960 --> 0:49:39.200 for Perth because we've pumped some money into it, so 0:49:39.480 --> 0:49:41.320 you know the state government has pumped some money into this. 0:49:41.440 --> 0:49:43.120 It's a big deal getting state of origin. It's a 0:49:43.160 --> 0:49:45.719 really big deal, especially getting the second one when the 0:49:45.800 --> 0:49:49.160 series is still live and you know people are saying, well, 0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:52.160 is it just commercial rivalry? Yes it is, Yes it is. 0:49:52.200 --> 0:49:55.719 It's commercial rivalry. And you know, I've heard that the 0:49:56.120 --> 0:49:59.440 powers that be for NRL have been told quite clearly 0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:02.279 by the Boss you won't get any favors. Ain't going 0:50:02.320 --> 0:50:05.560 to get worse, You're not getting anything fast. One double 0:50:05.600 --> 0:50:08.600 three eight eighty two. Have you experienced a random act 0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:14.520 of kindness as evidenced by Amanda who took who took 0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:18.600 her mum Margaret with eleven of her family members into 0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:21.160 the State of ad Ministry of Tribunal yesterday as part 0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:24.240 of the process and was treated really well by the panel. 0:50:24.280 --> 0:50:25.920 That's good to hear it. I love to hear from you. 0:50:26.000 --> 0:50:29.120 One double three eight eighty two. Are there parts of 0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:33.920 the NDIS carb up which goes to end ancillary services, 0:50:33.960 --> 0:50:40.360 health services, physio speech pathology and the like. Are the 0:50:40.480 --> 0:50:44.640 businesses who provide these services running out of dough stay 0:50:44.680 --> 0:50:46.560 with us back in a second. Thanks listening love to 0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:51.000 hear from you today this lots of correspondence coming in 0:50:51.480 --> 0:50:53.880 from our listeners. Ken says, I had the COVID and 0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:55.520 the flu jab on the first of June. I've had 0:50:55.560 --> 0:50:57.319 the flu for the past two weeks, really bad. Sorry 0:50:57.360 --> 0:51:01.239 to hear that. Keno says, anyone help quickly by a 0:51:01.280 --> 0:51:03.200 state government must have some hooks somewhere in the system 0:51:03.239 --> 0:51:06.160 to help them. Come on, John, no need for that, mate, 0:51:06.520 --> 0:51:09.840 Steve says, Leech Highway backed up to tonquinhowan Q do 0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:14.719 our worlshipool traffic very very full on this one from 0:51:14.760 --> 0:51:16.279 me and great to hear that sat state of a 0:51:16.280 --> 0:51:18.360 ministry tribune and had a lot of empathy for the family, 0:51:18.440 --> 0:51:20.920 not like the state public trustee still doing some nasty 0:51:20.960 --> 0:51:23.600 stuff behind the scenes. Thanks, and I did see that 0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:27.160 story yesterday. Doesn't sound good, doesn't answers no flu for me, 0:51:27.840 --> 0:51:30.680 had the flu shot. We've been made aware of a 0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:34.520 story that affects some of the allied health providers who 0:51:34.760 --> 0:51:39.040 receive money from the NDIS scheme. And Rachel Lockridge joins 0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:41.760 us now she's the principal speech pathologist at Sunshine Speech 0:51:41.800 --> 0:51:44.399 Pathology joins me in the studio. Hello, Rachel Hi Simon, 0:51:44.520 --> 0:51:45.160 good to talk to you. 0:51:45.360 --> 0:51:46.160 Thank you for having me. 0:51:46.320 --> 0:51:49.160 So this has sort of been five or six years 0:51:49.320 --> 0:51:52.319 in a row that fees that are the carved out 0:51:52.320 --> 0:51:55.600 are n dies for cruise like yours, the fees of 0:51:55.680 --> 0:51:56.319 frozen have they? 0:51:56.640 --> 0:51:59.920 Yeah, So last week we got the twenty twenty four 0:52:00.120 --> 0:52:03.160 twenty twenty five price review from the NDIS which did 0:52:03.239 --> 0:52:06.919 put the recommendation in that the cost of services would 0:52:06.960 --> 0:52:08.920 be frozen for about the six year in a row. 0:52:09.360 --> 0:52:12.480 So we have not received any price increases in line 0:52:12.520 --> 0:52:17.120 with CPI, considering we've got rising operational expenses and we're 0:52:17.160 --> 0:52:19.960 also contending with the rising cost of living. Okay, but 0:52:20.160 --> 0:52:22.800 to also add to that, a couple of the allied 0:52:22.800 --> 0:52:25.520 health providers that we work alongside have also taken massive 0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:27.080 decreases in what they can build. 0:52:27.239 --> 0:52:29.040 Yeah, just leading into the MIC a little bit more racily, 0:52:29.040 --> 0:52:31.879 if you will. Thank you. So this is dietitian psychologists, 0:52:31.880 --> 0:52:35.279 physios and guys like you speech pathologists. So the six 0:52:35.400 --> 0:52:37.680 year and what's the bottom line there? What does it 0:52:37.800 --> 0:52:40.040 mean to your business? Seventy five percent of your business 0:52:40.440 --> 0:52:43.200 comes from indos. What does it mean for your business? 0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:46.160 It means that given that the prices I need to 0:52:46.239 --> 0:52:50.520 pay to operate my business. They're increasing. It's making small 0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:52.080 businesses like mine less sustainable. 0:52:52.239 --> 0:52:52.439 Yeah. 0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:55.080 Yeah, and there's a really high risk of other people clothing. 0:52:54.920 --> 0:52:56.759 Other people going to the wall. So you have written 0:52:56.880 --> 0:52:59.680 to I know you've written it's about every politician in 0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:02.920 this state and federal to make some noise about this. 0:53:03.840 --> 0:53:06.080 Do you have any support politically do you think and 0:53:06.200 --> 0:53:07.319 is it Australia wide? 0:53:07.680 --> 0:53:10.719 This is Australia wide. One of the responses we had 0:53:10.880 --> 0:53:13.160 was a very generic correspond to it didn't really give 0:53:13.239 --> 0:53:15.720 us any support. I have written to my local MPs 0:53:15.880 --> 0:53:18.160 and a few people are beginning to write back in 0:53:18.320 --> 0:53:21.360 say they're listening, But we haven't had any significant support 0:53:21.400 --> 0:53:21.839 as of yet. 0:53:22.000 --> 0:53:25.279 Yeah, so at this stage it's not necessarily impacting. So 0:53:26.040 --> 0:53:29.040 people who work with me here have family members who 0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:35.359 require provide NDIS funding and provision health provision. A couple 0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:37.360 of them work really closely with me, and they and 0:53:37.719 --> 0:53:40.640 these are adults that we're talking about, they're kids necessarily, 0:53:41.200 --> 0:53:44.960 So our listeners, the citizens and pundas listening out there, 0:53:45.000 --> 0:53:47.160 they might not necessarily know about this. As far as 0:53:47.200 --> 0:53:49.560 they know that they've got a service, they can access, 0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:51.719 but the businesses behind it are hemorrhaging. 0:53:52.080 --> 0:53:56.120 We are hemorrhaging. And if we continue to hemorrhage, there 0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:58.640 are a number of businesses I know who they've already 0:53:58.680 --> 0:54:00.759 let staff go because they were having to choose between 0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:03.040 putting food on their own table or paying their staff. 0:54:03.120 --> 0:54:05.399 And that's not a decision anyone should have to make. 0:54:06.880 --> 0:54:09.160 And also if that happens and business start to close, 0:54:09.200 --> 0:54:12.000 there's going to be longer wait lists, which means the 0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:15.120 accessed early intervention is going to dwindle and more people 0:54:15.160 --> 0:54:15.520 are at. 0:54:15.680 --> 0:54:18.320 So for a speech pathologist, you're a mobile service and 0:54:18.400 --> 0:54:20.880 you operate sort of mostly north of the river. Are 0:54:20.920 --> 0:54:25.000 you who your biggest client base? Is it parents providing 0:54:25.160 --> 0:54:28.280 speech pathology early intervention for the kids? Is it adults? 0:54:28.400 --> 0:54:28.960 Is it ongoing? 0:54:29.040 --> 0:54:29.360 What is it? 0:54:29.560 --> 0:54:29.600 So? 0:54:29.960 --> 0:54:32.239 My case load range is between two years old to 0:54:32.320 --> 0:54:36.960 about seventeen years old, and I'm anywhere between homes, daycarees, schools, 0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:37.960 and community visits. 0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:40.160 Yeah, all right, And the fact that you've had a 0:54:40.200 --> 0:54:42.680 price freeze and you're facing another one for another year 0:54:42.719 --> 0:54:46.080 at least another year, means that your business is now 0:54:46.120 --> 0:54:48.719 in a parlor state. Yes, yep. And is that what 0:54:48.760 --> 0:54:51.080 the physios are saying, the dietitians, the sights are saying 0:54:51.120 --> 0:54:51.440 as well. 0:54:51.560 --> 0:54:55.600 Everyone everyone is feeling the pressure now, and we're all 0:54:55.680 --> 0:54:58.920 kind of rallying together to try and get this decision 0:54:59.000 --> 0:55:02.759 revoked because this falls apart the only people who are 0:55:02.760 --> 0:55:05.160 going to be left in the position of needing more 0:55:05.200 --> 0:55:05.839 help for the kids. 0:55:06.520 --> 0:55:11.520 Yeah. This is Rachel Lockridge, principal speech pathologists from Sunshine 0:55:11.600 --> 0:55:14.560 Speech Pathology. A lot of my predecessors who've sat in 0:55:14.640 --> 0:55:17.560 this chair Rachel, have spoken about the NDIS and I've listened. 0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:21.320 In broad terms, it seems it's oversubscribed. It's an incredibly 0:55:21.360 --> 0:55:25.600 popular federal government initiative, but we often hear about the 0:55:25.680 --> 0:55:29.920 difficulty in accessing services back of house, you know, the 0:55:31.280 --> 0:55:33.279 people wanting to spend all them make sure they get 0:55:33.280 --> 0:55:35.600 their allocation, their annual allocation, trying to spend it as 0:55:35.640 --> 0:55:39.120 best they can it can be for gardening, cleaning, speech pathology, whatever. 0:55:39.640 --> 0:55:42.160 So it would seem that the landing of NDIS is 0:55:42.200 --> 0:55:43.200 still far from perfect. 0:55:43.400 --> 0:55:46.080 Absolutely still far from perfect. There's a long way to go. 0:55:46.960 --> 0:55:50.040 The NDIS. The whole kind of point of the system 0:55:50.200 --> 0:55:53.080 was to build capacity and build independence. And if we're 0:55:53.120 --> 0:55:56.600 taking away opportunity for us to engage with our participants. 0:55:57.200 --> 0:55:58.960 We're just going to send the system backwards and there's 0:55:58.960 --> 0:56:01.320 going to be more dependent and more pressure on the 0:56:01.360 --> 0:56:03.359 public health and education systems as well. 0:56:04.000 --> 0:56:06.840 Could you, as a business owner and as a smart 0:56:07.280 --> 0:56:09.960 business owner, can you adjust your mix and move away 0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:13.440 from NDIS provision and keep your mobile service going, but 0:56:13.800 --> 0:56:15.760 moving to a different parts of the sector. 0:56:15.920 --> 0:56:19.240 I can definitely take on more privately paying clients. However, 0:56:19.400 --> 0:56:21.319 given the cost of living, that's really hard for people 0:56:21.400 --> 0:56:25.279 to access at the moment. And given that I'm in 0:56:25.360 --> 0:56:27.920 the pediatric world, a lot of my clients do you 0:56:28.000 --> 0:56:31.760 come through with diagnoses such as autism, young syndrome, cerebral palsy. 0:56:31.960 --> 0:56:35.480 So most of my clients are in the disability background, 0:56:35.480 --> 0:56:36.440 and that's where my specialty is. 0:56:36.560 --> 0:56:38.719 By sure, it is harder for me. And you know, 0:56:38.760 --> 0:56:42.279 it's not glib to s or dumbing down to say 0:56:42.320 --> 0:56:45.720 those they are people who struggle to speak and articulate 0:56:45.719 --> 0:56:48.799 and communicate an that's that's obvious, and so that's it's 0:56:48.840 --> 0:56:51.239 a service that's required. If you had a magic wand 0:56:51.360 --> 0:56:53.120 now you've got the letter out there, hopefully the letter 0:56:53.360 --> 0:56:55.640 people listening to the noise you're making. If you had 0:56:55.680 --> 0:56:58.239 a magic wand what would you say to the end, 0:56:58.400 --> 0:57:02.360 to NDIS or that all that or the minister running it, I. 0:57:02.480 --> 0:57:05.840 Would say, please revoke your decision to have travel funding 0:57:05.840 --> 0:57:08.840 and impact people regionally and rurally. Please revoke your decision 0:57:09.000 --> 0:57:13.760 to cut costs for physios dietetic psychologists. And please increase 0:57:13.960 --> 0:57:16.040 our billing rate to be in line with CPI so 0:57:16.160 --> 0:57:17.520 that we can meet our bottom lines. 0:57:18.080 --> 0:57:20.720 All right, because as you say, if you guys start 0:57:20.760 --> 0:57:23.480 going under start doing other work, that puts even more 0:57:23.520 --> 0:57:26.480 pressure on what is an oversubscribed system as it is. Yep, Yeah, 0:57:26.600 --> 0:57:28.840 all right, Rachel, thank you very much for coming in. 0:57:29.680 --> 0:57:31.360 Anything else I need to know or our listens need 0:57:31.400 --> 0:57:32.560 to know, we miss anything. 0:57:33.000 --> 0:57:35.040 Just if you can make noise as well, The more 0:57:35.080 --> 0:57:37.960 noise we make, the more opportunity we have for the 0:57:38.040 --> 0:57:39.120 NDAA to hear us. 0:57:39.320 --> 0:57:41.480 Yeah, all right, thanks for coming in, Thanks having chat 0:57:41.480 --> 0:57:43.760 to us. Thank you so much, Well done. Rachel Lockridge, 0:57:44.440 --> 0:57:49.200 Principal speech pathologist at Sunshine Speech Pathology. So talking to 0:57:51.000 --> 0:57:53.680 Seannann about this. My two colleagues here, they have family 0:57:53.760 --> 0:57:57.760 members that require services, health services as provided and funded 0:57:57.800 --> 0:58:01.800 by the NDEs and it's not using and accessing the system. 0:58:03.040 --> 0:58:05.320 And we now have a situation where some of these 0:58:05.320 --> 0:58:07.000 businesses will go to the wall unless they get a 0:58:07.040 --> 0:58:10.000 greater carve up out of the ndies because they're simply 0:58:10.040 --> 0:58:13.600 not meeting their operational costs. I'd love to hear from 0:58:13.680 --> 0:58:16.680 you one double three A two if that is the case, 0:58:16.720 --> 0:58:18.600 if you are a user of NDIS and I know 0:58:19.480 --> 0:58:24.960 Gaza and Bartlett and predecessors here have covered this subject 0:58:25.120 --> 0:58:27.000 ad nauseum, but happy to hear from you. That's the 0:58:27.080 --> 0:58:30.360 latest six years their fees have been frozen and these 0:58:30.400 --> 0:58:32.800 businesses will start to go to all the wall. Thank 0:58:32.840 --> 0:58:35.160 you for listening in. We'll come back after this break. 0:58:36.320 --> 0:58:38.320 Lindsey Jetton will join us. We want to talk in 0:58:38.440 --> 0:58:42.280 laws Lindsay for various reasons, because she's working with us. 0:58:42.600 --> 0:58:44.040 It's been for us to move back in with the 0:58:44.080 --> 0:58:46.080 in laws for a couple of nights. Going to talk 0:58:46.080 --> 0:58:48.360 in laws next one double three eight touty two. Give 0:58:48.440 --> 0:58:48.760 us a call. 0:58:59.240 --> 0:59:02.440 Good news, Elliot bus breakdown the spectacles Quanana northbound to 0:59:02.520 --> 0:59:06.240 Thomas Road has been clear. Things moving well. Quanana northbound 0:59:06.280 --> 0:59:09.400 a little bit slow still around that area including ancoratel Road, 0:59:09.440 --> 0:59:12.360 the Graham Farmer underspeed eastbound and be aware of some 0:59:12.440 --> 0:59:15.600 localized flooding through Rong Road and the Welshpool area. 0:59:15.920 --> 0:59:18.480 I'm Rob bver on Perth Traffic Leader six b are 0:59:19.120 --> 0:59:21.280 asking the question today have you had the flu? Yes 0:59:21.440 --> 0:59:24.160 or no? The yeses are nineteen the nose of thirty three. 0:59:24.880 --> 0:59:27.600 We are over double the amount of cases presented and 0:59:27.720 --> 0:59:30.240 recorded and captured by the Health Department for this time 0:59:30.360 --> 0:59:32.760 of the year as compared to last year. Lisa Gooday, 0:59:32.760 --> 0:59:36.240 Lisa Morning, Simon and team. I have never had the flu. 0:59:36.360 --> 0:59:40.320 Shop only had two COVID vaccines which were bully. This 0:59:40.440 --> 0:59:43.200 is having by Messiah mcgout McGowan. I can't remember the 0:59:43.240 --> 0:59:45.040 last time I had a cold or flu. I was 0:59:45.080 --> 0:59:48.040 born with immune system which I look after and I 0:59:48.120 --> 0:59:50.440 have two minute cold showers every day. Thanks Lisa, I 0:59:50.440 --> 0:59:54.720 remember you and knew cold showers. Lisa, I am sure 0:59:54.760 --> 0:59:56.240 why you do that when you've got to have a 0:59:56.320 --> 0:59:59.400 warm one. But anyway, and thanks Lise, no flu for me, 0:59:59.480 --> 1:00:03.280 had the flu sh and thank you very much. Lots 1:00:03.480 --> 1:00:07.840 of correspondence today on this notion of Allied Health Services 1:00:07.880 --> 1:00:11.720 and Silly Health Services having a freeze on their fees 1:00:11.800 --> 1:00:14.360 from the ndaaes over the last six years. I'll get 1:00:14.400 --> 1:00:17.280 to that in just a moment. Lindsay gent and Lindsay 1:00:17.320 --> 1:00:20.600 Brennan formerly known as Lindsay Brennan is with me now, Lindsay, 1:00:21.800 --> 1:00:23.920 you've been forced to move back with the in laws 1:00:24.760 --> 1:00:25.560 for one night only. 1:00:25.720 --> 1:00:26.360 Yeah, not quite. 1:00:26.480 --> 1:00:28.480 I had a sleepover last night, and i'd like to 1:00:28.520 --> 1:00:31.480 start this conversation in case they're listening. I love my 1:00:31.640 --> 1:00:34.880 in laws, They're very good to me. But yeah, I 1:00:35.000 --> 1:00:36.640 came into work with you this morning. As you know, 1:00:36.720 --> 1:00:39.440 we start very early, and so I had a sleepover 1:00:39.560 --> 1:00:43.200 last night because my husband's away. Baby daughter needed someone 1:00:43.240 --> 1:00:45.480 to look after her, so rather than me dropping her 1:00:45.520 --> 1:00:47.960 off at five am this morning, we stayed the night. 1:00:48.160 --> 1:00:51.920 Okay, And so you so the in laws you do 1:00:52.200 --> 1:00:54.520 like them, Yes, we get on very well when they 1:00:54.600 --> 1:00:56.120 first met you when you were the girlfriend. 1:00:56.400 --> 1:00:56.600 Yes. 1:00:56.920 --> 1:00:59.000 So the last time I had a sleepover at their 1:00:59.120 --> 1:01:01.800 house was very early in our relationship, when I was 1:01:02.000 --> 1:01:05.080 just the girlfriend, and you know that was fine. But 1:01:05.200 --> 1:01:07.480 I haven't slept her for quite a few years. And 1:01:07.640 --> 1:01:10.720 last night, with my husband away, I had dinner with them. 1:01:10.880 --> 1:01:13.680 It was lovely and then I got into bed which, 1:01:13.880 --> 1:01:16.560 funnily enough, their spare room is now my husband's old 1:01:16.800 --> 1:01:17.480 childhood room. 1:01:18.080 --> 1:01:21.000 And I was lying there thinking, is this a bit weird? 1:01:23.520 --> 1:01:24.680 And as much as I do. 1:01:24.800 --> 1:01:27.160 Get on well with them, what's the protocol? Did you 1:01:27.200 --> 1:01:28.840 say good night to them and shake their hands and 1:01:28.880 --> 1:01:29.520 give them a cuddle. 1:01:29.720 --> 1:01:33.440 Yes, we said good night, and then I sort of said, oh, well, 1:01:33.480 --> 1:01:35.680 i'll see you tomorrow. 1:01:36.560 --> 1:01:39.640 As the wife, as the daughter in law with a baby. 1:01:39.920 --> 1:01:42.439 Yes, exactly. So it was fast asleep at this point. 1:01:42.520 --> 1:01:46.840 It was all good. But it was very funny because 1:01:47.320 --> 1:01:49.880 they have an intercom system in their house. 1:01:49.960 --> 1:01:51.080 I have an intercom with. 1:01:51.200 --> 1:01:52.240 Fabulous for the boy. 1:01:52.320 --> 1:01:54.520 They have three boys, so growing up yelling at them, 1:01:54.600 --> 1:01:58.000 you know, dinner's ready, kids, come down the hallway whatever. 1:01:58.480 --> 1:01:59.200 Great system. 1:02:00.040 --> 1:02:02.000 Last night I was lying in bed and at two 1:02:02.040 --> 1:02:06.480 am when my daughter started making noises, I suddenly hear 1:02:06.640 --> 1:02:07.160 around me. 1:02:07.960 --> 1:02:10.280 Shhh. 1:02:11.360 --> 1:02:13.520 It was my mother in law trying to settle. 1:02:13.240 --> 1:02:15.040 The baby buy the intercom via. 1:02:15.120 --> 1:02:20.960 The terrified me a little bit because I was half asleep. 1:02:21.240 --> 1:02:22.760 But he thought someone was in a room with you. 1:02:23.000 --> 1:02:25.040 Yeah, but also maybe a good method. 1:02:25.400 --> 1:02:28.040 So anyway, it got me thinking, I wonder what our 1:02:28.080 --> 1:02:30.800 listeners think as well, you know, how much time do 1:02:30.800 --> 1:02:32.720 you spend with your in laws? And do you spend 1:02:32.800 --> 1:02:36.160 time with them without your partner there? Because I realized 1:02:36.200 --> 1:02:38.560 we haven't spent a whole lot of time without Tim, 1:02:38.680 --> 1:02:39.760 my husband being there. 1:02:39.880 --> 1:02:44.000 Yeah. And sometimes people if they do part ways, they 1:02:44.960 --> 1:02:47.320 maintain the in laws, they get the in laws in 1:02:47.360 --> 1:02:48.120 the custody battle. 1:02:48.240 --> 1:02:48.400 Yeah. 1:02:48.400 --> 1:02:50.640 And I've had friends who have you know, struggled to 1:02:50.680 --> 1:02:52.880 break up with their partners because they love their in 1:02:53.000 --> 1:02:54.680 laws so much that they want to stay. 1:02:54.480 --> 1:02:55.360 A part of that family. 1:02:55.960 --> 1:02:57.560 I'd love to hear from me one, double three eight 1:02:57.600 --> 1:03:03.200 et e two. The intercom is the funny bit dayy work. 1:03:03.360 --> 1:03:04.200 She went back to sleep. 1:03:05.320 --> 1:03:09.080 If Lindsay in laws are listening, Lindsay loves you, I 1:03:09.240 --> 1:03:12.840 love you by association and yeah, the intercom is funny 1:03:13.920 --> 1:03:15.960 ringing today. How's your relationship with your in laws? 1:03:16.120 --> 1:03:16.520 Is it weird? 1:03:16.640 --> 1:03:18.640 Is it funny? Do you spend time with them on 1:03:19.080 --> 1:03:21.440 your own? Love to hear from you today. Thank you, Lindsay, 1:03:22.000 --> 1:03:24.760 Thank you for helping us out today, in laws. Thank 1:03:24.800 --> 1:03:26.919 you to your in laws as well. And Barclay's away today. 1:03:27.000 --> 1:03:31.480 She's getting little baby Simone checked out. Thanks Lindz. Yeah, 1:03:31.520 --> 1:03:33.040 you're in laws. How do you get on with your 1:03:33.080 --> 1:03:36.200 in laws any good? Do they have an intercom? And 1:03:36.320 --> 1:03:39.200 do they attempt to placate and pacify your baby when 1:03:39.240 --> 1:03:42.600 it's stirring of a nighttime? Your relationship with your in laws? 1:03:42.680 --> 1:03:45.080 One at double three eighty two ring in if you 1:03:45.120 --> 1:03:47.120 call her the day today you win a double pass 1:03:47.520 --> 1:03:50.400 to see the terror Cotta Warriors there at Boulevard Dip 1:03:50.600 --> 1:03:52.720 from the twenty eighth of June right through until February 1:03:52.760 --> 1:03:55.440 next year. How good one of China's and one of 1:03:55.480 --> 1:03:58.840 the world's cultural treasures is coming to Perth, the terror 1:03:58.880 --> 1:04:01.680 Cotta Warriors. You might have seen the billboards around the 1:04:01.720 --> 1:04:05.240 city and we've got a double bassket way today as 1:04:05.320 --> 1:04:06.520 cauller of the day, How do you get on with 1:04:06.560 --> 1:04:09.160 your in laws? Folks? Give me a shouts? Did you 1:04:09.240 --> 1:04:12.240 keep them in the custody battle? Do you're not get 1:04:12.320 --> 1:04:14.480 in with your gone? Do you not get on with 1:04:14.640 --> 1:04:20.520 your in laws? One double three eight eighty two. Brendan says, 1:04:20.560 --> 1:04:23.240 we're expecting our kids to start education at an early age, 1:04:23.240 --> 1:04:26.600 so pediatric services need to be supported. Yeah, I heard 1:04:26.640 --> 1:04:29.320 the story with Oli yesterday Brendon about the kids turning 1:04:29.400 --> 1:04:34.000 up the school not ready to go socially and Brendan. 1:04:34.040 --> 1:04:37.400 To be fair, these are kids with autism, kids with 1:04:37.560 --> 1:04:41.480 who might be have a down syndrome condition or some 1:04:41.720 --> 1:04:44.920 syndrome that means they do need speech pathology. Thanks mate. 1:04:44.960 --> 1:04:47.160 Good to hear from you. David says, I haven't had 1:04:47.200 --> 1:04:49.760 the flu. Shot, haven't had the flu. My daughter does 1:04:49.840 --> 1:04:52.320 have the flu, as does most of her school. Thank 1:04:52.400 --> 1:04:55.400 you David. Cheers mate, No flu this year or last 1:04:55.680 --> 1:04:59.080 is Raylen? Thank you Raylen. So we're keeping itally on 1:04:59.120 --> 1:05:01.240 this today. Have you had the flu and nose of 1:05:01.320 --> 1:05:05.240 thirty seven? The yeses are nineteen Joan, no, and I've 1:05:05.520 --> 1:05:07.800 never had the flu. Vaccine vaccine, do not intend to 1:05:07.840 --> 1:05:11.520 get it. Herbicides reduce your resistance to viral infections. We 1:05:11.600 --> 1:05:14.000 have a very long dry spell with lots of spraying 1:05:14.120 --> 1:05:16.960 being done. Thanks Joe. Yeah, maybe he gets a bit 1:05:17.040 --> 1:05:21.240 histamini and a bit dusty and polony, doesn't it at 1:05:21.280 --> 1:05:23.640 certain times of the year. Good call. One double three 1:05:23.800 --> 1:05:25.880 eighty two. Had to get on with your in laws. 1:05:26.000 --> 1:05:28.840 Love to hear from me today. Lindsay's in laws put 1:05:28.880 --> 1:05:31.320 a baby back to sleep using an intercom last night. 1:05:31.920 --> 1:05:35.400 How about that? One double three eight two re Swheetby's 1:05:35.400 --> 1:05:38.760 in the news today. It looks like this biggest gas 1:05:39.240 --> 1:05:41.080 fired power plant we're talking about this on the show 1:05:41.120 --> 1:05:44.720 before It is called NuGen. It's down in Quanana and 1:05:44.840 --> 1:05:46.880 it was close to receiving a bailout last year of 1:05:46.920 --> 1:05:50.480 thirty mil Is it going under? Is the new jen 1:05:50.840 --> 1:05:55.920 power plant down at Quanana going under? Tony's phone the program, 1:05:56.240 --> 1:05:58.400 Hello Tony, Hello. 1:05:58.360 --> 1:06:02.440 Simon, Hey mate. Yeah, I've got a funny one for you. 1:06:03.600 --> 1:06:08.480 The words for mother in law in Croatian, when literally translated, 1:06:09.120 --> 1:06:11.120 means guilty for everything. 1:06:11.880 --> 1:06:15.120 Oh, so, can you give me the word? How do 1:06:15.200 --> 1:06:20.280 you say it? In Croating? Guilty and guilty for everything 1:06:20.400 --> 1:06:25.800 means that's okay? And they they make you feel guilty 1:06:25.920 --> 1:06:27.960 or they feel guilty about everything. 1:06:28.120 --> 1:06:31.960 Well, no, they're guilty for everything. So like you start 1:06:32.080 --> 1:06:34.280 washing dishes and your wife says to you, why are 1:06:34.280 --> 1:06:36.360 you washing dishes like that? Oh my mom taught me. 1:06:36.600 --> 1:06:39.640 Oh yeah, she's guilty for ever for that, you know, 1:06:39.800 --> 1:06:42.400 folding clothes and stuff like that. Oh yeah, she's guilty 1:06:42.480 --> 1:06:45.080 for that. So guilty for everything I do. 1:06:45.400 --> 1:06:48.040 I do remember being pinged when I was married about 1:06:48.520 --> 1:06:51.720 how I was pegging clothes out on the line, guilty 1:06:51.760 --> 1:06:54.600 for everything time. Yeah me too, Yeah me too. I thought, 1:06:54.640 --> 1:06:56.760 well I've picked them out like this for thirty five 1:06:56.840 --> 1:07:01.680 years and they're dry guilty. Cheers mate, thank you. One 1:07:01.720 --> 1:07:04.920 double three atty two year in laws Lindsay Jett and 1:07:05.000 --> 1:07:07.160 moves home for one night so she can work with 1:07:07.280 --> 1:07:09.800 us this morning and gets the baby calm down via 1:07:09.840 --> 1:07:12.960 the intertacom. We love Lindsay's in laws. One double three 1:07:13.040 --> 1:07:14.720 a totty two. You'd like to give us a shout 1:07:14.880 --> 1:07:18.280 today when we come back the new gen power plant 1:07:18.360 --> 1:07:21.440 down in the Krona Industrial Strip. Is it still teetering 1:07:21.480 --> 1:07:24.720 on the brink? Stay listening? Peter raised is a good point. 1:07:24.800 --> 1:07:27.080 He sent in an SMS to us today. Get Apete 1:07:27.480 --> 1:07:30.800 Pete says, I'm a regular attendee of Waffle Games. The 1:07:30.880 --> 1:07:34.400 official program. The budget cost three bucks this year, which 1:07:34.480 --> 1:07:36.640 is twenty twenty five seed, and it's nothing more than 1:07:36.680 --> 1:07:39.360 a list of teams for each of the respective clubs. 1:07:39.760 --> 1:07:43.360 The information providing the budget publication in previous years had 1:07:43.400 --> 1:07:47.960 fixtures results, leading goalkickers, possession, get us feature articles, umpires, 1:07:48.000 --> 1:07:51.400 club events. Funk is no longer being provided. I've queried 1:07:51.480 --> 1:07:53.760 the absence of this information with the marketing division of 1:07:53.840 --> 1:07:57.040 the Footy Commission or I understand irresponsible for the publication 1:07:57.120 --> 1:07:58.680 of the budget varying among a number of times, and 1:07:58.720 --> 1:08:01.400 no response has been forthcoming. Not good enough, Peter. I 1:08:01.520 --> 1:08:02.840 noticed that I went a couple of weeks ago to 1:08:02.880 --> 1:08:05.640 see East Perth play West Perth on the Monday, and 1:08:05.720 --> 1:08:10.080 the budget is has reduced significantly. So my understanding, we 1:08:10.200 --> 1:08:13.000 might try and get this clarified for you. It became 1:08:13.120 --> 1:08:17.040 too expensive for the Footy Commission to publish. They had 1:08:17.640 --> 1:08:20.880 excess numbers. They were either trying to get the numbers 1:08:21.000 --> 1:08:24.879 right and they're either underproducing or overproducing. That's been difficult. 1:08:24.920 --> 1:08:27.040 But producing the budget in its previous form has become 1:08:27.080 --> 1:08:30.280 too expensive, I think, Pete. So I know that Tracy 1:08:30.360 --> 1:08:34.960 Lewis and Sean Cowen have been previous editors, and Sean 1:08:35.000 --> 1:08:37.559 in particular, who loves waffle. He was always the bolk 1:08:37.600 --> 1:08:42.120 who was putting in historic pieces, stories about memorabilia and 1:08:42.160 --> 1:08:44.200 the like, which made it such a good read. But 1:08:44.280 --> 1:08:46.240 you're right, mate, it's just a team sheet now, isn't it. 1:08:46.400 --> 1:08:48.400 So it costs three bucks you used to cost your 1:08:48.400 --> 1:08:50.120 fifteen dollars to get into the waffle and he had 1:08:50.160 --> 1:08:53.080 a budget included, but it is now something I think 1:08:53.120 --> 1:08:55.880 you have to buy separately, So it is it's a 1:08:55.920 --> 1:08:58.200 real shame. And as I said earlier in the show, 1:08:58.240 --> 1:09:01.160 today often you go to games only five hundred people there, 1:09:02.520 --> 1:09:04.639 so you know, and it's still something that's covered widely 1:09:04.720 --> 1:09:09.280 and broadly by by media groups other than ours. You know, 1:09:09.400 --> 1:09:11.000 we talk about the waffle all the time because it's 1:09:11.479 --> 1:09:14.519 in our blood. But yeah, Pete, the budget is a 1:09:14.600 --> 1:09:16.960 shadow of its former self. We might try and find 1:09:17.040 --> 1:09:20.320 Sean Cowen or one of the previous editors if we can. 1:09:20.920 --> 1:09:23.240 Coming up after eleven o'clock, Lou Roe will join us 1:09:23.280 --> 1:09:26.200 from the RSPCA and we have an exclusive story for you, 1:09:26.960 --> 1:09:32.200 an incredible story of animal cruelty, sadly involving a Gosnell's home, 1:09:32.760 --> 1:09:35.759 and Lou will get us across that after eleven o'clock 1:09:35.960 --> 1:09:39.720 today when she comes in, Kayi says, virus mess. I'm 1:09:39.720 --> 1:09:43.400 an adult speech pathologist. It is cruel to expect frail 1:09:43.439 --> 1:09:46.960 adults with permanent disabilities, bedbound, palliative, et cetera to travel 1:09:47.040 --> 1:09:49.960 to businesses. The travel feed cut will hurt everyone, and 1:09:50.040 --> 1:09:52.599 clients who live further away will not be accepted. There 1:09:52.600 --> 1:09:54.960 won't be a wait list, they just will not get services. 1:09:55.000 --> 1:09:58.160 Spoken with two physios this week, both now reducing or 1:09:58.240 --> 1:10:01.799 cutting out in THEOS clients. You speak up, says Katie, 1:10:01.880 --> 1:10:04.840 so backing what Rachel had to say a little bit 1:10:04.920 --> 1:10:07.040 earlier on, we'll speak to Chris Alten in just a 1:10:07.120 --> 1:10:12.479 moment about the new gen power, the power generated down 1:10:12.520 --> 1:10:16.080 on the Karna Strip. News to hand that last year 1:10:17.320 --> 1:10:20.200 Reese Whitby was looking to bail out the projects with 1:10:20.320 --> 1:10:24.679 a thirty million dollar payout or gift, but it didn't happen. 1:10:24.760 --> 1:10:27.559 So this is still really teetering on the on the brink, 1:10:28.920 --> 1:10:30.840 and this is this is power provided to industry. We 1:10:30.960 --> 1:10:32.920 talked to Chris in just a second. The program good 1:10:33.000 --> 1:10:33.479 a Matthew. 1:10:35.000 --> 1:10:37.120 I just thought i'd let you know know how w 1:10:37.520 --> 1:10:43.360 w OI are coming in October to Perth. The prices 1:10:43.439 --> 1:10:47.120 for the people who bought the Priority pass who paid 1:10:47.640 --> 1:10:52.800 five hundred and fifty dollars YEUS. The prices started at 1:10:52.960 --> 1:11:00.280 five hundred and thy dollars US to fourteen thousand years 1:11:01.000 --> 1:11:05.599 for the tickets for the event. And that doesn't include 1:11:05.640 --> 1:11:09.200 the raw and SmackDown event. That just includes the Crown 1:11:09.320 --> 1:11:13.439 Jewel event. Those people will have to be very careful 1:11:13.479 --> 1:11:15.120 when they're purchasing their tickets. 1:11:15.880 --> 1:11:20.240 Yeah, that's by But where isn't it, Matthew? So do 1:11:20.320 --> 1:11:22.840 you reckon people will pay that amount? Are there people 1:11:23.400 --> 1:11:25.760 fans with that deeper pockets? Will they pay? 1:11:27.080 --> 1:11:30.960 Unfortunately, those people who paid the deposit are sort of 1:11:31.280 --> 1:11:34.880 in trouble. I was like that last year. I went 1:11:35.000 --> 1:11:39.160 with that company last year thinking that I wouldn't get 1:11:39.200 --> 1:11:43.960 anywhere and not knowing the costumes. And this year I'm 1:11:43.960 --> 1:11:47.880 a bit more wiser and haven't done that. But it's 1:11:47.920 --> 1:11:50.760 a lot of money twenty two thousand dollars just for 1:11:50.880 --> 1:11:55.520 a ticket and to go backstage and to meet two wrestlers. 1:11:55.960 --> 1:11:59.519 Yeah sure, yeah, it's show. 1:12:00.080 --> 1:12:02.320 ISOBR without accommodation? 1:12:03.640 --> 1:12:06.400 Yeah yeah, all right mate. Thanks letting us know, Matthew. 1:12:06.560 --> 1:12:09.759 So be where if you are buying a pricey ticket 1:12:09.840 --> 1:12:14.560 for SmackDown and Raw in October, just be aware what 1:12:14.640 --> 1:12:16.519 you're buying. Make sure you know what you're getting for 1:12:18.080 --> 1:12:20.320 that layout because that's a fair bit of day, isn't 1:12:20.360 --> 1:12:24.120 It's thirteen minutes to eleven o'clock. What's happening with a 1:12:24.200 --> 1:12:27.479 new gen plant down in the Quanana Industrial Area and 1:12:27.680 --> 1:12:29.880 did it nearly get a bailout of thirty mil last 1:12:29.960 --> 1:12:33.439 year from Energy Minister Rees Whitby. Chris Alton is an 1:12:33.520 --> 1:12:39.280 industry consultant and a former director on the Quanana Industries Council. 1:12:39.360 --> 1:12:41.639 Today, Chris, what excitement. 1:12:41.800 --> 1:12:44.240 Good to talk to you again. What are you hearing 1:12:44.280 --> 1:12:45.960 about new Gen? Is it teetering? 1:12:46.040 --> 1:12:46.160 Is it? 1:12:46.240 --> 1:12:46.479 Mate? 1:12:48.160 --> 1:12:51.439 Look, I haven't heard much at all about what's going 1:12:51.479 --> 1:12:55.240 on behind the scenes with new Gen. I don't understand 1:12:55.240 --> 1:13:00.719 why it would be teetering because it's supplying a large 1:13:00.720 --> 1:13:04.679 amount of electricity into the into the into the grid, 1:13:04.680 --> 1:13:11.320 which is absolutely essential for industry. So look, I wouldn't 1:13:11.320 --> 1:13:17.519 want to speculate on why it's attracting that that that 1:13:17.720 --> 1:13:23.400 level of intervention, however, looks cannot Can I say that 1:13:23.640 --> 1:13:28.320 that the Swiss the Southwest Interconnected system that supplies the 1:13:28.360 --> 1:13:31.639 electricity into the Quanana Industrial Area in Western Trade Coast 1:13:31.720 --> 1:13:37.120 and Perth is in dire need of a major, major, 1:13:37.439 --> 1:13:43.280 major investment. Currently, Western Palace focus is on building going 1:13:43.320 --> 1:13:47.120 to be building the transmission from the Midwest green electricity 1:13:47.200 --> 1:13:51.120 that's wind and solar to replace Collie. That's their focus. 1:13:51.960 --> 1:13:57.360 That doesn't. That doesn't mean that the Quanana grid will 1:13:57.439 --> 1:13:59.400 be the part of the grid and Quanana delivering the 1:14:00.040 --> 1:14:02.599 interesting will be any more stable than it is today. 1:14:02.680 --> 1:14:06.080 And it's not particularly stable. So the whole that whole 1:14:06.160 --> 1:14:08.719 grid system is quite vulnerable at the moment. 1:14:10.160 --> 1:14:12.360 Well, I mean, we don't have the story. We just 1:14:12.439 --> 1:14:15.680 I know Dan Mercer has the story. He's he's a 1:14:15.800 --> 1:14:18.960 good fellow at a good journal, Dan. But new gen 1:14:19.040 --> 1:14:21.680 is important, isn't it. And as you say, mostly for 1:14:21.840 --> 1:14:27.080 industrial supply, for commercial supply, And it's news to us 1:14:27.240 --> 1:14:30.600 that maybe re Sweepy is the Energy Minister put it 1:14:30.680 --> 1:14:32.800 to government we needed to bar this out, So it 1:14:32.880 --> 1:14:34.519 does seem that he's concerned about it as well. 1:14:35.600 --> 1:14:38.360 Yeah, I mean, if it's in trouble, it needs to 1:14:38.439 --> 1:14:43.120 be fixed. That's that's that is the bottom line, and 1:14:43.800 --> 1:14:47.280 let's get on with doing that. But the bigger picture 1:14:47.320 --> 1:14:49.920 needs also to be addressed. And I know that there 1:14:49.960 --> 1:14:52.320 are a full disclosure. I'm on the board of a 1:14:52.439 --> 1:14:55.719 couple of renewable energy companies, one of which is trying 1:14:56.520 --> 1:15:03.200 to get wind power into the industrial area. The bureaucracy 1:15:04.479 --> 1:15:10.200 that is blocking or not being supportive of these new 1:15:10.400 --> 1:15:15.280 energy renewable energy sources coming into the industrial area is 1:15:15.400 --> 1:15:19.160 quite it's almost depressing. It's very very hard to get 1:15:19.240 --> 1:15:24.080 decisions made, and these decisions could be so easily made. 1:15:25.240 --> 1:15:29.880 And the wind turbine project isn't a big project. It's 1:15:30.040 --> 1:15:32.560 very very innovative. The money seems to go to the 1:15:32.640 --> 1:15:38.639 big players who can really they've got the balance sheets 1:15:39.680 --> 1:15:41.720 to be able to afford to do this work themselves. 1:15:42.280 --> 1:15:45.240 Innovators coming in that we need to be supporting. 1:15:45.400 --> 1:15:47.720 Yeah, because you know my backgrounds in local government and 1:15:47.840 --> 1:15:49.680 we're hearing the opposite in the regions. You know that 1:15:50.240 --> 1:15:52.400 it's the absolute red carpet, the green light. Here you go, 1:15:53.080 --> 1:15:55.120 you know, going to nar angerup, build turn and fifty 1:15:55.160 --> 1:15:57.960 wind turbines will help you out. It does seem to 1:15:58.080 --> 1:16:00.120 be different if it's in the metro area or at 1:16:00.160 --> 1:16:03.639 near Coburn Sound or in Quanana because the country ships 1:16:04.240 --> 1:16:06.559 it's here we go. Is the is the red carpet? 1:16:06.600 --> 1:16:07.160 Go for your life? 1:16:08.080 --> 1:16:10.240 Yeah. It's like being the ball in a game of 1:16:10.360 --> 1:16:14.400 tennis with you know, and it's double so you've got 1:16:14.520 --> 1:16:17.519 four parties whacking the ball around, but nobody you just 1:16:17.640 --> 1:16:20.760 can't seem to break through and get a decision to 1:16:20.840 --> 1:16:23.840 say yes, you have approval even if you know me 1:16:24.000 --> 1:16:28.960 meeting all the environmental conditions down the way, but nobody 1:16:29.120 --> 1:16:31.320 is taking it up and saying, yes, this is something 1:16:31.400 --> 1:16:35.360 we should be supporting. You know, if industry doesn't decarbonize 1:16:36.680 --> 1:16:41.240 in terms of meeting government policy and customer requirements for 1:16:41.360 --> 1:16:47.160 the for the products that are manufactured, if they can't decarbonize, 1:16:47.840 --> 1:16:50.600 they can't sell their products or they can't sell them competitively. 1:16:50.720 --> 1:16:53.479 This is not a choice that industry is facing. 1:16:53.680 --> 1:16:53.880 It is. 1:16:54.400 --> 1:16:57.519 It is a fact that they have to decarbonize. I mean, 1:16:57.560 --> 1:17:01.000 you take the large companies that are producing a lot 1:17:01.040 --> 1:17:05.839 of c AT carbon dioxide emissions. They're trapped or captured 1:17:05.880 --> 1:17:11.000 within the safeguard mechanism, and that says that into the future, 1:17:12.040 --> 1:17:15.040 starting last year, these companies have to reduce their emissions 1:17:15.080 --> 1:17:19.559 by four point nine per year on year. That means 1:17:19.720 --> 1:17:22.080 the well, the only way they can do that, essentially 1:17:22.479 --> 1:17:25.439 is to get green electricity because they're relying on coal 1:17:25.680 --> 1:17:28.960 electricity and gas electricity, which isn't green by the way, 1:17:29.400 --> 1:17:35.280 sorry Meg. So if they can't do it, they're in 1:17:35.320 --> 1:17:38.680 breach of the policy. And I know one of the 1:17:38.760 --> 1:17:42.920 companies on the Strip is looking at curtailing production in 1:17:43.120 --> 1:17:45.680 order to meet did some mission reduction targets? Now that 1:17:45.880 --> 1:17:50.040 is such a perverse outcome. Yeah, that's a good reality 1:17:50.120 --> 1:17:51.000 that industry is facing. 1:17:51.160 --> 1:17:52.800 Yeah, that counterintuitive, isn't it. 1:17:54.040 --> 1:17:57.160 The new gen must stay in operation even though it's gas, 1:17:57.600 --> 1:18:00.439 which is what they call blue electricity. New gen stay 1:18:00.880 --> 1:18:03.679 in the mix as we as we move through this transition. 1:18:03.880 --> 1:18:05.360 Yeah, all right, Chris, always good to talk to you. 1:18:05.439 --> 1:18:06.080 Thank you for your time. 1:18:06.840 --> 1:18:07.360 You're welcome. 1:18:07.439 --> 1:18:10.559 Timon cheers mate, Chris on my little screen. It's got 1:18:10.640 --> 1:18:13.439 Chris from Willard. So I think Chris sometimes calls used 1:18:13.439 --> 1:18:17.000 to call us a took caller. Chris out and industry consultant, 1:18:17.160 --> 1:18:20.360 former in Quanana Industry Council directors. So Dan Mercer has 1:18:20.439 --> 1:18:24.719 the story today, Dan, the new gen that rees Whitbee 1:18:24.720 --> 1:18:26.840 as the energy Minister are attempted to ballot out thirty 1:18:26.880 --> 1:18:30.560 million bucks of our money. Again, this vexed issue of 1:18:31.560 --> 1:18:34.400 you know, transitions to and net zero is what we're 1:18:34.439 --> 1:18:38.840 calling it. We're hearing that in the country that wind 1:18:38.920 --> 1:18:43.000 farms in particular in proliferation, little councils are dealing with 1:18:43.120 --> 1:18:46.439 multinationals trying to make sure they get a good deal 1:18:46.479 --> 1:18:48.720 for the community and get some extra lectucity in their 1:18:48.760 --> 1:18:52.000 own grid. In the meantime, that's the wind farms at 1:18:52.080 --> 1:18:55.000 Quanana seem to be getting knocked back. And you know, 1:18:55.160 --> 1:18:58.360 the breeze does blow through Quanana through there, the sea 1:18:58.400 --> 1:19:00.960 breeze does come in. Love to hear from you today. 1:19:01.439 --> 1:19:05.160 Anything you like the new Gen power generator which is 1:19:05.240 --> 1:19:08.280 gas powered. He puts three hundred and ten megawats into 1:19:08.320 --> 1:19:12.160 the grid and it's teetering. Apparently it's teaching on the 1:19:12.280 --> 1:19:14.680 brink financially. Back in just a moment, Have you had 1:19:14.680 --> 1:19:16.599 the flu this season? The yeses at nineteen the nose 1:19:16.600 --> 1:19:18.960 a thirty nine. Yeah, thanks listening in. It's three minutes 1:19:19.000 --> 1:19:22.800 to eleven o'clock. Thanks for all your correspondents on the 1:19:22.960 --> 1:19:25.720 price freeze if you like, or the fee freeze for 1:19:25.960 --> 1:19:30.120 the NDS ancillary health providers. A lot of correspondents coming in, 1:19:30.360 --> 1:19:34.439 very thoughtful correspondence, Lara says Gade Lara, Thank you. The 1:19:34.600 --> 1:19:37.200 NDIS price cuts are going to disadvantage the most vulnerable 1:19:37.200 --> 1:19:39.920 in our communities who are either unable to travel for 1:19:39.960 --> 1:19:43.800 service or find it extremely difficult to do so. If 1:19:43.800 --> 1:19:45.920 you suddenly had a disability which can happen to anyone. 1:19:45.920 --> 1:19:47.479 Wouldn't you want a therapist to come to your home 1:19:47.520 --> 1:19:51.960 to provide the correct shower commode fit rails correctly assess 1:19:52.000 --> 1:19:55.759 for sus suitability for power wheelchair. I prescribe positioning systems 1:19:55.840 --> 1:19:58.479 using your bed. How can therapists do what's best for 1:19:58.520 --> 1:20:00.559 the participants they work with if they are not able 1:20:00.600 --> 1:20:04.000 to observe the person in the natural environments. So I'm 1:20:04.000 --> 1:20:06.759 assuming Lara is in the industry. We cannot keep absorbing 1:20:06.800 --> 1:20:08.960 the travel costs, so the most vulnerable we will be 1:20:09.040 --> 1:20:14.120 most affected. One double three two is the is the 1:20:14.200 --> 1:20:16.439 phone number? Bowie, you're talking about the lack of coverage 1:20:16.439 --> 1:20:18.439 from our local paper for the state of origin. In 1:20:18.520 --> 1:20:20.160 two weeks in the twenty eighth we have the Lions 1:20:20.200 --> 1:20:22.400 Tour starting in Perth, one of the biggest tours in Union, 1:20:22.439 --> 1:20:24.800 and we only get it every twelve years. It'll be 1:20:24.840 --> 1:20:28.560 interesting to see what coverage gets. Thank you to that 1:20:28.640 --> 1:20:36.800 correspondence appreciated. Bookmark this message from Ryan Ryan, you are 1:20:37.280 --> 1:20:40.560 nothing if not persistent libertarian Ryan, or enjoy your correspondence. 1:20:41.000 --> 1:20:44.320 Bookmark this message Simum net zero and this energy transition 1:20:44.439 --> 1:20:47.759 to wind and solar as a scam. It defies practical reality. 1:20:47.840 --> 1:20:51.080 It is not environmental, It is not environmental, not sustainable 1:20:51.120 --> 1:20:55.640 and not economic. Thanks libertarian Ryan. As I sometimes say 1:20:55.720 --> 1:20:58.160 Ryan on the show, I'll always take advice from people 1:20:58.200 --> 1:21:00.479 who are smarter than me, and the people are smarter 1:21:00.640 --> 1:21:03.800 me saying we do. We are facing climate change, We're 1:21:03.840 --> 1:21:06.559 going to eventually run out of fossil fuels, and we're 1:21:06.600 --> 1:21:09.439 well placed in w a in aminustrated to take advantage 1:21:09.439 --> 1:21:12.040 of the amount of sun and when we have so rock. 1:21:12.720 --> 1:21:15.240 Thanks Ryan, you make me laugh sometimes, Mate, I know 1:21:15.320 --> 1:21:15.840 you don't mean so. 1:21:17.000 --> 1:21:17.200 Yeah. 1:21:17.360 --> 1:21:21.280 The smart guys are saying, you know, we need renewable energy. 1:21:22.760 --> 1:21:25.840 That's that is the future. I appreciate everyone's points of 1:21:25.880 --> 1:21:28.040 view on all of this hits. We've feels like it's 1:21:28.080 --> 1:21:29.960 been foisted on us and forced upon us, doesn't it? 1:21:30.080 --> 1:21:32.439 No no doubt about that. Luis Roe will join us 1:21:32.439 --> 1:21:34.759 from the RSPC eight. She has a couple of special 1:21:34.840 --> 1:21:38.040 guests and once again sadly lou will bring us in 1:21:38.120 --> 1:21:42.040 a story of astonishing animal cruelty in the suburbs. Stay listening. 1:21:47.320 --> 1:21:52.120 On Perth six PR This is Perth Today with Simon Beaumont. 1:21:59.080 --> 1:22:01.240 Thanks listening. Today they start a little mini war with 1:22:01.520 --> 1:22:05.320 Ryan the Libertarian, who I enjoy his correspondents very much. 1:22:05.360 --> 1:22:08.439 He's unrelenting and he's always hard at the ball. Jim 1:22:10.000 --> 1:22:11.799 Ryan makes you laugh. They say, you take the advice 1:22:11.840 --> 1:22:13.839 of those who are smarter and you Ryan fits the category. 1:22:13.920 --> 1:22:18.680 Maybe Jim, but he's unrelenting and a good man for 1:22:18.760 --> 1:22:22.400 staying on the course that matters to him. Yes or no? 1:22:22.479 --> 1:22:24.000 Have you had the flu this season? The yeses are 1:22:24.040 --> 1:22:26.960 nineteen and the nose are forty two. I think we're 1:22:26.960 --> 1:22:28.760 going to talk to the RSPCA. Max's going to talk 1:22:28.800 --> 1:22:33.880 to Lude. Here we go, here we go, any second hour, 1:22:35.520 --> 1:22:38.320 you got it? Maybe it's been maybe one of the 1:22:38.400 --> 1:22:42.320 cats has done something to your intro. Loo. Hello, Louise, 1:22:42.560 --> 1:22:45.880 I can sing if you want. Good to see you. Yeah, 1:22:45.960 --> 1:22:49.200 thanks for coming in. We're going to get to this. Unfortunately, 1:22:49.240 --> 1:22:51.879 often when you and I talk, the breaking news stories 1:22:51.960 --> 1:22:54.959 are horrific on animal cruelty, to get one in gosnels 1:22:55.000 --> 1:22:57.720 in just a moment, and the numbers are staggering. But 1:22:57.880 --> 1:23:03.519 Kaylee's here as well. Kaylee's been a faithful RSPC, a employee, 1:23:03.560 --> 1:23:05.200 and you've got a couple of guests who you've got here, Luke. 1:23:05.400 --> 1:23:08.120 Yeah, so Kaylee's joined me in studio today to help 1:23:08.200 --> 1:23:12.439 me wrangle these two little qtis. We have eleven week 1:23:12.479 --> 1:23:18.280 old kittens, brothers Bert and Ernie. They are very very cute, 1:23:18.800 --> 1:23:20.720 but you know, they're eleven week old kittens, so they 1:23:20.760 --> 1:23:22.679 want to get out and explore and everything. 1:23:23.200 --> 1:23:23.679 Very active. 1:23:23.960 --> 1:23:28.360 Yeah, they're currently available for adoption, but as a bonded pair, 1:23:28.479 --> 1:23:32.920 so you will need to take both because they yeah, 1:23:33.000 --> 1:23:34.280 they're very attached to each other. 1:23:34.439 --> 1:23:37.200 They've been with us since they were two weeks old. 1:23:38.120 --> 1:23:42.320 They've found astrays, so they were fostered and now they're 1:23:42.320 --> 1:23:46.040 ready to be adopted. And really we've really pushing our 1:23:46.120 --> 1:23:48.880 cat adoptions at the moment because we've got room for 1:23:48.920 --> 1:23:55.120 around one hundred cats. We've got ninety seven and there 1:23:55.240 --> 1:23:59.559 are I hear eleven coming in from the one property today. 1:24:01.320 --> 1:24:03.800 We really need to move some of our cats out. 1:24:04.320 --> 1:24:06.880 We've got them from all ages, from this young right 1:24:06.960 --> 1:24:10.240 up through till twelve year old Tuppants, who is a 1:24:10.600 --> 1:24:13.920 delightful black cat that was a very quiet home. 1:24:14.000 --> 1:24:17.080 So people are in the market. Head to the RSPCA 1:24:17.280 --> 1:24:18.040 WA website. 1:24:18.560 --> 1:24:22.439 These two are incredibly active Kaylee has that one's Ernie, 1:24:22.479 --> 1:24:22.720 isn't it? 1:24:22.960 --> 1:24:23.080 Is that? 1:24:23.160 --> 1:24:25.439 What's that's Ernie? They don't look like brothers. 1:24:26.080 --> 1:24:29.599 No, it's not unusual for letters of kittens to look 1:24:29.760 --> 1:24:34.599 vastly different to each other. Yeah, it's just really common. 1:24:34.720 --> 1:24:38.760 So just for people playing along at home, is black 1:24:38.800 --> 1:24:40.120 and white and Ernie is a tabby. 1:24:40.280 --> 1:24:43.680 Yeah, yeah, beautiful. Yeah, they're both very cute and they 1:24:43.760 --> 1:24:46.920 are full bore. They're like two little hand grenades of 1:24:48.280 --> 1:24:49.960 fur and fluff. Aren't they so cute? 1:24:50.000 --> 1:24:50.120 Though? 1:24:50.280 --> 1:24:52.760 Yeah, they are extremely cute. So they are available. Go 1:24:52.760 --> 1:24:55.400 to the RSPCA website. Katie, nice to meet you, and 1:24:55.439 --> 1:24:59.439 thanks for coming in, Kayleie is having to wrangle the 1:24:59.520 --> 1:25:02.400 right word, and that's what that's saying. Comes from hurting kittens, 1:25:02.840 --> 1:25:05.679 hurting cats. These these are the poster child for that phrase. 1:25:05.760 --> 1:25:07.920 Exactly one double three eight eighty two. If you'd like 1:25:07.960 --> 1:25:09.880 to have a chat to Lou today, we will talk 1:25:09.920 --> 1:25:14.600 about the service that the RSPCA provide. Lou's given me 1:25:14.880 --> 1:25:17.240 a sheet of a four paper. It's a new media release. 1:25:17.280 --> 1:25:20.320 I don't think you would have heard this information anywhere else. 1:25:20.880 --> 1:25:24.759 Mother and Sons plural. Lou charged with cruelty against cats 1:25:24.880 --> 1:25:25.559 and chickens. 1:25:26.040 --> 1:25:26.720 Yeah, that's right. 1:25:26.920 --> 1:25:30.200 So a fifty three year old woman and her two 1:25:30.280 --> 1:25:34.000 sons aged twenty five and twenty two have each been 1:25:34.800 --> 1:25:39.680 charged with fifteen counts of animal cruelty. Background story, We 1:25:39.880 --> 1:25:44.639 got a report back in February saying that a member 1:25:44.680 --> 1:25:48.799 of the public had seen many cats living in appalling 1:25:48.880 --> 1:25:53.080 living conditions in the backyard of a Gosnell's house. So 1:25:53.439 --> 1:25:58.240 our inspectors went out there actually saw thirty eight cats 1:25:58.280 --> 1:26:02.160 and kittens. They were confined to cages and pens of 1:26:02.280 --> 1:26:05.040 all different sizes, some stacked on top of each other 1:26:06.400 --> 1:26:11.360 or through the property. I've seen the photos. You just 1:26:11.720 --> 1:26:14.479 I don't know how people walk past this day after day. 1:26:14.600 --> 1:26:21.960 But so much excrement and you know, yeah, no food 1:26:22.040 --> 1:26:28.800 and diarrhea, diarrhea everywhere, just the most appalling conditions. The 1:26:29.320 --> 1:26:32.880 hens were just so skinny. Their water bowl was filled 1:26:32.920 --> 1:26:37.880 with dried sticks, is what our inspector is reporting. So yes, 1:26:38.000 --> 1:26:41.160 the three of them have been charged and they will 1:26:41.320 --> 1:26:43.760 face the Armadelle Magistrates Court next month. 1:26:43.920 --> 1:26:46.599 All right, So this is as lucid fifty three old 1:26:46.640 --> 1:26:49.680 woman to sons twenty five and twenty two, thirty eight 1:26:49.760 --> 1:26:52.760 cats in the one house and four chickens, and just 1:26:52.840 --> 1:26:55.680 reading further down your release, and there's quite a bit 1:26:55.720 --> 1:27:03.040 of detail about the about the how unkempt the house was, 1:27:03.240 --> 1:27:05.800 and the mess and the feces and the urine and 1:27:05.840 --> 1:27:08.840 the diarrhea or all that. It's not for the faint hearted. 1:27:08.880 --> 1:27:12.920 The animals had gastro intestinal illnesses, infections, dental disease and 1:27:12.960 --> 1:27:16.240 poor body condition. Right across the thirty eight cats and 1:27:16.320 --> 1:27:19.320 the four Isler brown hens inside a large coupe now 1:27:20.560 --> 1:27:25.479 fundamental toilist loo is RSPCAU will allege the female It 1:27:25.560 --> 1:27:28.639 will be accused of operating a profit bridden driven commercial 1:27:28.680 --> 1:27:30.120 business of selling these cats. 1:27:30.240 --> 1:27:30.400 Yep. 1:27:30.520 --> 1:27:35.040 So to Kitna far yeah, she was or is sorry 1:27:35.360 --> 1:27:38.519 a registered cat breeder, and all of the cats were 1:27:38.760 --> 1:27:42.880 what may be termed as desirable breeds, so rag dolls 1:27:42.920 --> 1:27:45.040 and Russian blues which fetch a pretty penny. 1:27:45.240 --> 1:27:45.559 All right. 1:27:45.680 --> 1:27:48.880 So the maximum penalty here is for animal Cruelly's fifty 1:27:48.960 --> 1:27:52.479 grand fine and you can cop some prison time as well. 1:27:53.120 --> 1:27:54.600 Is one of your old jobs used to work for 1:27:54.840 --> 1:27:55.559 corrective services? 1:27:55.600 --> 1:27:55.840 I need? 1:27:56.040 --> 1:27:56.240 Yeah? 1:27:56.680 --> 1:27:58.960 And they go to Armadale magistrates called on twenty fifth 1:27:59.000 --> 1:28:01.680 of July. What's your job from here. What's RSPCA's job 1:28:01.720 --> 1:28:02.040 from here. 1:28:02.560 --> 1:28:06.479 So our inspectors who picked up this case and went 1:28:06.520 --> 1:28:12.639 out there, they complete their investigation and then determine whether 1:28:14.120 --> 1:28:16.800 charges are warranted, which obviously in this case they did 1:28:16.920 --> 1:28:20.880 so then they work with our legal team and it 1:28:21.000 --> 1:28:23.880 gets to this stage and the people are actually charged, 1:28:23.920 --> 1:28:26.800 and then from here on in obviously our legal team 1:28:29.080 --> 1:28:31.960 is in court and you know, showing all the evidence 1:28:32.080 --> 1:28:37.439 and talking about the alleged defenses and yeah, then it's 1:28:37.560 --> 1:28:40.960 up to the magistrate whether they're found guilty and what 1:28:41.040 --> 1:28:41.640 the penalty is. 1:28:41.680 --> 1:28:43.000 The magistrate decides. 1:28:42.720 --> 1:28:46.759 That our commander in chief of social media operations, Tony's 1:28:46.800 --> 1:28:48.280 in this year and the cats are quiet and down. 1:28:48.760 --> 1:28:49.600 Your cat whispered to. 1:28:49.840 --> 1:28:52.439 Look at this, Yeah, look at you to eleven week 1:28:52.479 --> 1:28:53.320 old kitten stadium. 1:28:55.240 --> 1:28:58.320 I don't think the dog would appreciate it. Did amazing story. 1:28:58.439 --> 1:29:02.160 Thirty eight cats in one house, the home of registered breeder. 1:29:02.520 --> 1:29:04.720 Why why do the boys get charged as well if 1:29:04.800 --> 1:29:05.360 she's a breeder? 1:29:06.280 --> 1:29:09.519 Because they all lived in the house and they were 1:29:09.600 --> 1:29:12.960 all aware of the conditions. This is what will be 1:29:13.080 --> 1:29:17.760 alleging and therefore they are all responsible and they and 1:29:19.200 --> 1:29:21.280 I don't want to say, it's still before the courts 1:29:21.320 --> 1:29:24.280 at the moment, but in evidence, in some of the 1:29:24.400 --> 1:29:29.240 things that all three said to our inspector, we will 1:29:29.320 --> 1:29:33.719 allege that or three did take responsibility. 1:29:33.400 --> 1:29:37.120 The culpability allegedly. Lou it didn't escape my attention that 1:29:37.240 --> 1:29:40.560 you said there's eleven more cats coming into the RSPCA 1:29:40.680 --> 1:29:44.000 this morning. Is that also from a case week where 1:29:44.680 --> 1:29:47.400 you'll be having a look at that on criminal grounds? 1:29:48.080 --> 1:29:51.679 Too early to say, yeah, I don't know, it will 1:29:51.760 --> 1:29:54.880 be from an inspector, but as I say, from there, 1:29:55.560 --> 1:29:58.400 they're the ones that will carry out the investigation. They're 1:29:58.439 --> 1:30:02.439 the ones that have the under the Act to take 1:30:02.520 --> 1:30:04.360 things forward or not. So yeah, I'm not aware of 1:30:04.360 --> 1:30:05.680 the circumstances of that one. 1:30:05.800 --> 1:30:09.640 Thank you. Lou Well answered like a professional, like a politician, 1:30:09.840 --> 1:30:12.519 like a politician, like a pro. We'll come back in 1:30:12.600 --> 1:30:14.960 a moment. Fifteen and a half minutes past eleven. Can 1:30:15.000 --> 1:30:16.760 you believe that, as lu said, how do people walk 1:30:16.800 --> 1:30:19.320 past this? How do people walk past this stuff with 1:30:20.320 --> 1:30:27.200 gi illness, poor body condition and just filth and squalor? 1:30:27.320 --> 1:30:30.439 How do people keep managing to do this? Thank God 1:30:30.520 --> 1:30:32.920 for the RSPCA. We'll come back sixteen minutes past eleven, 1:30:33.040 --> 1:30:34.880 and Lou and I will remind you how you can 1:30:34.960 --> 1:30:38.120 adopt a kitten ninety seven at the moment, Yeah, not all. 1:30:38.040 --> 1:30:40.880 For adoption, but yeah, we have ninety seven in care 1:30:40.920 --> 1:30:41.360 at the moment. 1:30:41.479 --> 1:30:43.439 Yeah, all right, thanks Lou. Back in a sec Lou 1:30:43.600 --> 1:30:45.960 Roe is with us from the RSPCA. Thank you for listening. 1:30:46.840 --> 1:30:49.120 This is from Carol Lou, one of our correspondents, and 1:30:49.200 --> 1:30:54.000 it's Ka Rhyl. Hello Carol, So please ask Lou why 1:30:54.160 --> 1:30:57.080 people found guilty of animal cruelty banned for owning pets 1:30:57.120 --> 1:30:58.800 for two to five years, why not for life? 1:31:01.080 --> 1:31:05.480 There we go, that's a question for the individual magistrates. 1:31:06.080 --> 1:31:11.320 Short answer is I don't know. But it's RSPCA WA 1:31:11.439 --> 1:31:14.400 that has the power to charge and to bring these 1:31:14.560 --> 1:31:18.000 people before the court and we argue the case as 1:31:18.080 --> 1:31:20.599 best we can, but then it's up to the individual 1:31:20.680 --> 1:31:24.800 magistrate to decide on the penalty which is available to 1:31:24.880 --> 1:31:25.639 them under the Act. 1:31:25.760 --> 1:31:28.599 And Carol's right. We have had a few cases where 1:31:28.640 --> 1:31:29.040 people have. 1:31:29.120 --> 1:31:31.760 Been banned from owning animals for the rest of their life, 1:31:31.840 --> 1:31:35.640 but it is pretty standard to hear five year ban, 1:31:35.920 --> 1:31:39.480 ten year ban, that kind of thing. But yeah, unfortunately 1:31:39.840 --> 1:31:43.479 I don't have a straight ad, so it's up to 1:31:43.560 --> 1:31:46.599 the individual magistrate in each individual case what they decide 1:31:46.640 --> 1:31:47.240 the penalty is. 1:31:47.400 --> 1:31:49.680 Yep, I've asked you this the last three times you've 1:31:49.720 --> 1:31:52.200 been in. You've been you're going to get some budget 1:31:52.240 --> 1:31:54.920 money for some more inspectors. When do those boots hit 1:31:54.960 --> 1:31:55.240 the road? 1:31:56.280 --> 1:31:59.919 So we already have a lot of new trainee inspectors, 1:32:00.000 --> 1:32:03.240 which is great because for safety reasons, all of our 1:32:03.320 --> 1:32:08.760 inspectors now work in pairs, so we've had to do 1:32:09.240 --> 1:32:12.960 quite hefty recruitment. And yeah, it's going really well. The 1:32:13.000 --> 1:32:17.160 system's working really well, traveling to regional areas on a 1:32:17.240 --> 1:32:18.080 frequent basis. 1:32:18.320 --> 1:32:21.760 And yeah, the new funding kicks in one July. 1:32:22.080 --> 1:32:25.519 Okay, good luck, Thanks good luck. Lou Rosewis. If you 1:32:25.520 --> 1:32:27.040 want to ring in, you can one double three eight 1:32:27.040 --> 1:32:30.600 to two. Just to go back on to there have 1:32:30.760 --> 1:32:34.679 been some changes to the laws around the Dog Act 1:32:34.720 --> 1:32:36.519 and the cad Act. We know a couple of pet 1:32:36.560 --> 1:32:38.400 shops have closed down. You and I've talked about this 1:32:38.479 --> 1:32:41.200 at length. I've talked to Melkriddle, our vet about this 1:32:41.280 --> 1:32:44.280 as well. So the new laws under the new Westralian 1:32:44.320 --> 1:32:48.080 cad Act all cats six months old and must be sterilized, 1:32:48.080 --> 1:32:50.280 Lou Michael Schulden registered with their local government, not with 1:32:50.320 --> 1:32:53.760 the RSPCA. How's that going. What are you hearing? Because 1:32:53.760 --> 1:32:56.639 we did hear there's been some problems with the registration system, 1:32:56.640 --> 1:32:57.360 with the database. 1:32:58.240 --> 1:33:02.920 Yeah, I just you know, hear stuff. As you say, 1:33:02.960 --> 1:33:06.240 we don't administer it. I think people do get a 1:33:06.320 --> 1:33:09.559 bit frustrated, depending on which local government area they live 1:33:09.600 --> 1:33:10.400 in at. 1:33:10.360 --> 1:33:16.560 How strongly those laws are enforced. That that is the 1:33:16.640 --> 1:33:17.040 law though. 1:33:17.640 --> 1:33:20.560 They have to be sterilized, micro chipped and registered. And 1:33:20.760 --> 1:33:22.599 even if you only want to breed one letter from 1:33:22.640 --> 1:33:24.519 your cat, you have to register as a breeder. 1:33:24.600 --> 1:33:27.080 I was going to say that that's that new information RECEP. 1:33:27.080 --> 1:33:28.960 It's only one letter, you still need to register as 1:33:28.960 --> 1:33:30.920 a breeder. And if it's just one yeah, all right. 1:33:30.960 --> 1:33:33.040 And a lot of this is around shire's and local 1:33:33.080 --> 1:33:36.080 government and you know, rangers and part of the local 1:33:36.120 --> 1:33:39.680 government systems should be looking after all of this. Well, 1:33:40.040 --> 1:33:43.839 have you heard anything, either anecdotally, loo or otherwise about 1:33:43.960 --> 1:33:47.799 the fact that this registration's portal is being delayed? 1:33:48.479 --> 1:33:52.400 I have heard as much as anyone else has. You know, 1:33:52.479 --> 1:33:56.280 Hannah Beasley came out and said that state government had 1:33:56.360 --> 1:33:59.960 parted ways with the company that was contracted to establish 1:34:00.240 --> 1:34:05.200 centralized registration system rather than each LGA holding their own records. 1:34:07.120 --> 1:34:07.720 That's all I know. 1:34:07.880 --> 1:34:11.160 You know, that's fine. We are hearing the same and 1:34:11.240 --> 1:34:13.639 probably reading the same media reports that you are, Lou 1:34:14.120 --> 1:34:17.080 And again we talked to Melkriddle about it as well. 1:34:17.560 --> 1:34:20.880 You've got a community Action Day tomorrow and one in July, 1:34:21.040 --> 1:34:22.559 in one in August. Tell us about those. 1:34:22.880 --> 1:34:23.080 Yeah. 1:34:23.240 --> 1:34:27.280 So a lot of people know RSPCA WA for the 1:34:27.400 --> 1:34:31.599 kinds of cases that we've been talking about, so animal cruelty. 1:34:31.840 --> 1:34:34.040 They know that we rescue animals. They know that we 1:34:34.160 --> 1:34:36.360 have a shelter in Malagar and they can come and 1:34:36.439 --> 1:34:39.360 adopt pets from us. What a lot of people don't 1:34:39.439 --> 1:34:42.519 know is all of the community outreach stuff that we do. 1:34:43.880 --> 1:34:47.720 We're not a big stick organization except when we absolutely 1:34:47.840 --> 1:34:52.240 have to be. Our inspectors and our other staff are 1:34:52.280 --> 1:34:56.880 all supremely compassionate and work with pet owners as much 1:34:56.920 --> 1:35:00.320 as possible to try and help them educate them. And 1:35:00.600 --> 1:35:04.200 Community Action Days are just one of the practical outreach 1:35:04.280 --> 1:35:06.720 programs that we do. We tend to hold them in 1:35:06.840 --> 1:35:10.960 lower socioeconomic areas, people who are struggling, can come along 1:35:11.760 --> 1:35:13.200 and judgment free. 1:35:13.520 --> 1:35:14.760 Don't have to give us reasons why. 1:35:14.800 --> 1:35:17.479 They can come along and get free dog and cat food, 1:35:18.080 --> 1:35:21.759 free flea and worm treatments. Dogs can be health checked. 1:35:22.320 --> 1:35:25.519 We've got trainers there to give advice, and you can 1:35:25.600 --> 1:35:27.400 get free micro chipping as well. 1:35:27.560 --> 1:35:30.920 Yeah cool. Now, just watching the Burtnernie in action here. 1:35:30.960 --> 1:35:35.320 So Tony's coming and as completely plicated. That's bird I think, 1:35:35.400 --> 1:35:37.880 isn't it. That's right, that's birds. And to you, Tony, 1:35:38.200 --> 1:35:39.439 how you going Katie with yours? 1:35:39.479 --> 1:35:39.640 Are you? 1:35:39.840 --> 1:35:42.400 Are you sure you're working in the right profession? 1:35:45.080 --> 1:35:45.920 What's going on here? 1:35:46.920 --> 1:35:47.759 He is intrigued. 1:35:47.760 --> 1:35:51.800 He's loving the six PR logo going on and off 1:35:51.880 --> 1:35:54.040 the big TV screen. So I think we maybe need 1:35:54.120 --> 1:35:56.479 to put one of those up in our catgory to 1:35:56.600 --> 1:35:57.679 keep the cats entertained. 1:35:57.960 --> 1:35:58.160 Yeah. 1:35:58.200 --> 1:36:00.280 So, just for people who might be in need of 1:36:00.320 --> 1:36:02.800 any of those free things that I just mentioned, they 1:36:02.840 --> 1:36:06.479 can head along to the Anthony Warren clubrooms in Clarkson 1:36:06.520 --> 1:36:09.920 today between one and three. We will be in Calgooley 1:36:10.000 --> 1:36:13.040 Boulder on the twenty third of July and in Rockingham 1:36:13.120 --> 1:36:15.680 on the eighteenth of August. If people want to know, 1:36:16.520 --> 1:36:19.080 just jump on our website click on the events link, 1:36:19.320 --> 1:36:21.280 or if you follow us on social media you'll get 1:36:21.439 --> 1:36:23.320 details of when we hold them as well. 1:36:23.479 --> 1:36:25.800 Yep, well, now, very very good. The community action days 1:36:25.840 --> 1:36:28.479 they call so, as Lou said, free food, health checks, 1:36:28.560 --> 1:36:31.800 micro tripping, flea and worm treatments for struggling pet owns. 1:36:31.840 --> 1:36:33.960 And in particular, it's the expertise you can pass on 1:36:34.040 --> 1:36:34.640 to people, isn't it? 1:36:34.720 --> 1:36:34.760 So? 1:36:35.040 --> 1:36:35.639 Oh for sure? 1:36:35.720 --> 1:36:38.200 And sometimes it's just about putting people's minds at rest. 1:36:38.280 --> 1:36:41.680 You know, my dog's doing this or my cat's doing that, 1:36:42.000 --> 1:36:44.439 and you know you talk to a professional, they go, oh, yeah, 1:36:44.479 --> 1:36:47.360 that's completely normal, but no, it can be annoying behavior. 1:36:47.720 --> 1:36:50.120 We suggest you try X y Z and yeah it's great. 1:36:50.240 --> 1:36:52.240 Yep, one level three AD. So if you'd like to 1:36:52.280 --> 1:36:55.040 speak to Luro you can. How you going, Lou? And 1:36:55.120 --> 1:36:56.600 all the time I've known you, you've worked here on 1:36:56.640 --> 1:36:59.559 the radio with Howard with late how do you work correct? 1:36:59.560 --> 1:37:01.639 The service you worked at Tourism w A. Just another 1:37:01.720 --> 1:37:03.760 day in w A was one on something you and 1:37:03.840 --> 1:37:05.600 your gang came up. How are you going with this? 1:37:05.960 --> 1:37:07.479 I know you love animals, but how are you going 1:37:07.520 --> 1:37:07.760 with all this? 1:37:08.400 --> 1:37:09.080 Yeah? I love it? 1:37:10.439 --> 1:37:15.000 I feel like I've landed where I was meant to be. 1:37:15.240 --> 1:37:17.439 I mean, when you work for the RSPCA but you're 1:37:17.600 --> 1:37:20.080 still known as the crazy dog lady, then I don't 1:37:20.120 --> 1:37:23.360 think that kind of shows that it's your calling you Maybe, Yeah, 1:37:23.720 --> 1:37:25.040 you've maybe found your people. 1:37:25.160 --> 1:37:26.840 You may be found your place. Yeah. 1:37:26.920 --> 1:37:29.200 Look, some of the stuff is heartbreaking, of course it is. 1:37:30.000 --> 1:37:34.559 And ultimately it would be amazing if the RSPCA didn't 1:37:34.560 --> 1:37:37.200 have to exist, because then there would would mean there 1:37:37.280 --> 1:37:40.920 was no animal cruelty. But unfortunately it does. And I've 1:37:40.960 --> 1:37:44.160 got to tell you though, those good stories are the 1:37:44.280 --> 1:37:45.599 ones that, Wow. 1:37:45.520 --> 1:37:47.880 You'd be going, yeah, you'd be coming back into work. 1:37:48.120 --> 1:37:51.760 Has any of it surprised you? Has any of the 1:37:51.840 --> 1:37:55.320 content any of the things you've seen? Is there anything unexpected, 1:37:55.439 --> 1:37:59.479 either in the role or the politically or you know, 1:37:59.560 --> 1:38:02.559 in the you need anything surprise you, Lou, Yeah, a. 1:38:02.600 --> 1:38:03.280 Couple of things. 1:38:03.520 --> 1:38:05.439 So the way. 1:38:06.800 --> 1:38:11.280 That people can treat their animals, even after all these years, 1:38:11.560 --> 1:38:12.760 continues to surprise me. 1:38:12.840 --> 1:38:13.639 I know it shouldn't. 1:38:14.680 --> 1:38:16.840 I don't know if we spoke about this last time 1:38:17.280 --> 1:38:19.519 I was with you, but there've been some charges against 1:38:20.280 --> 1:38:24.000 three blokes working on a mind site in the gold 1:38:24.120 --> 1:38:27.599 Fields who thought it would be really funny to hit 1:38:27.640 --> 1:38:30.080 a pigeon with a golf club and you did tell 1:38:30.080 --> 1:38:31.680 me and film it. 1:38:31.760 --> 1:38:32.839 And put it on Snapchat. 1:38:33.000 --> 1:38:35.080 So you know, you just look at that vision and 1:38:35.160 --> 1:38:38.000 you just go, I don't understand what was going through 1:38:38.040 --> 1:38:38.400 your head. 1:38:39.320 --> 1:38:40.959 So those kinds of things free your bloodstream. 1:38:41.120 --> 1:38:46.719 Yeah, those kinds of things continue to surprise me. People's 1:38:46.840 --> 1:38:51.800 expectations sometimes, you know though, and Kayleie has a lot 1:38:51.840 --> 1:38:55.320 more experience with this than I do, but they kind 1:38:55.320 --> 1:38:57.040 of treat us a little bit like a shop. So 1:38:57.160 --> 1:38:59.000 they'll come in and they'll be like, you know, I 1:38:59.160 --> 1:39:03.720 want a small, white, fluffy dog, no older than you know, 1:39:03.920 --> 1:39:07.360 two years of age, and you say, well, we don't 1:39:07.400 --> 1:39:10.680 have anything that fits that description. And it's like you're 1:39:10.720 --> 1:39:12.640 working at Big w and they expect you to go 1:39:12.800 --> 1:39:15.000 out the back and check the stock and to see if. 1:39:14.920 --> 1:39:16.920 There's one there's supposed to wait describe. 1:39:17.080 --> 1:39:21.120 Yeah, and it's like, yeah, not a shop, Like that's 1:39:21.320 --> 1:39:24.840 kind of not the philosophy of animal rescue and rehoming. 1:39:25.240 --> 1:39:26.840 So do what we got out of the back. 1:39:26.960 --> 1:39:30.960 Yeah, that's kind of interesting. Yeah, they're probably the two 1:39:31.000 --> 1:39:31.599 biggest things. 1:39:31.720 --> 1:39:33.600 Yeah, all right, keep up the good work. It's a 1:39:33.680 --> 1:39:35.640 noble line of work and it's very well suited to 1:39:35.680 --> 1:39:38.640 you and your personality and your skill set. Thank you 1:39:38.760 --> 1:39:41.800 for coming in. Thank you for bringing Burton Ernie in. 1:39:42.040 --> 1:39:48.160 As Ernie continues to sort of try to escape and 1:39:48.320 --> 1:39:50.200 they climb up the walls. The other ones asleep. 1:39:50.479 --> 1:39:52.560 Yeah, I'm going to sleep to look at you. 1:39:52.720 --> 1:39:54.080 Don't try and go and changing jobs. 1:39:54.920 --> 1:39:56.479 I was going to say, I'm going to take Tony 1:39:56.560 --> 1:39:58.200 with me as I walk out the studio and she 1:39:58.320 --> 1:39:59.839 can come and work with us in Malaga. 1:40:00.280 --> 1:40:02.760 Tony, he's good at a day job as well, So 1:40:02.840 --> 1:40:05.640 you can't have it all right, Katie, nice to meet you. 1:40:05.800 --> 1:40:07.479 Keep up a good work. Yeah, I'll just remind people 1:40:07.520 --> 1:40:10.280 where the Community Action Days are. At one this afternoon 1:40:10.479 --> 1:40:12.600 in Clarkson there's something wearing center. 1:40:12.479 --> 1:40:15.360 Anthony Anthony Wearing club rooms on victism. 1:40:15.120 --> 1:40:17.439 Pray all right, And the twenty third of July there's 1:40:17.439 --> 1:40:19.920 people listening in caw Gooley Bold and lots of people 1:40:19.960 --> 1:40:22.760 do listen on the app these days, lou and the 1:40:22.840 --> 1:40:25.120 eighteenth of August down in Rockingham. So go to the 1:40:25.320 --> 1:40:28.479 RSPCA website they call the Community Action Days and you 1:40:28.520 --> 1:40:30.439 can find out a little bit more. Thank you, Luke, 1:40:30.520 --> 1:40:31.120 good to see you. 1:40:31.439 --> 1:40:32.719 Always, good to see you, Bowie. 1:40:32.840 --> 1:40:35.200 And maybe we'll mix things up and in a fortnight 1:40:35.200 --> 1:40:36.479 I'll bring in a big buffhead dog. 1:40:36.680 --> 1:40:40.080 Yeah all right, no, all right, thanks Lou, Thanks Kaylee, 1:40:40.479 --> 1:40:43.840 and thanks Tony. Yeah, look at you go. It's a 1:40:43.960 --> 1:40:46.200 twenty eight and a half minutes past eleven, lou Rowe 1:40:46.280 --> 1:40:48.840 have Lou in here chatting about all this. And look 1:40:48.880 --> 1:40:51.759 it does have a heard edge this that those animal 1:40:51.800 --> 1:40:55.120 cruelty charges are significant, and you heard it here first 1:40:55.760 --> 1:40:57.479 on this show. Yes, No, Have you had the flu 1:40:57.560 --> 1:40:59.760 this season? The yeses are nineteen the nose of forty two. 1:41:00.120 --> 1:41:02.320 Shortly thanks for listening in today twenty nine minutes to 1:41:02.479 --> 1:41:06.880 midday after twelve o'clock today, Sue mcgodougall will be in 1:41:07.040 --> 1:41:10.479 from King's Park and of course dispenser of radio wisdom 1:41:10.640 --> 1:41:13.760 and care when it comes to matter's horticultural. So Sue 1:41:13.760 --> 1:41:16.840 will be with us after midday, looking forward to seeing that. 1:41:17.479 --> 1:41:19.800 I'd love to hear from you today. Have you had 1:41:19.840 --> 1:41:23.080 the flu this season? We are more than double the 1:41:23.120 --> 1:41:26.720 amount of reported cases as compared to this time last year. 1:41:26.800 --> 1:41:30.360 The yeses are twenty one on the nose of forty six. 1:41:30.960 --> 1:41:32.840 John says, So I'm interesting that you would get a 1:41:32.920 --> 1:41:35.000 John issuing you to say you take advice from people 1:41:35.040 --> 1:41:37.960 smarter than yourself. Still important to question things, even when 1:41:38.000 --> 1:41:41.200 the advice comes from so called smarter people. Smarter doesn't 1:41:41.240 --> 1:41:46.360 always mean unbiased or correct. Thank you, John, I guess 1:41:46.400 --> 1:41:50.080 what I'm really saying, John, I'm that happy taking people 1:41:50.120 --> 1:41:53.000 with advice that I think I might have covered the 1:41:53.080 --> 1:41:55.200 other way, if that makes sense. Thanks for listening in 1:41:55.280 --> 1:41:57.920 one double three eight e two. And I'll just check online. 1:41:58.880 --> 1:42:01.360 I think it's the things that Dalai Lama. I'll just 1:42:01.439 --> 1:42:04.880 check him on line because I always I quote this occasionally. 1:42:04.920 --> 1:42:06.560 If I've just got to X if I can find it, 1:42:07.040 --> 1:42:11.479 the Dalai Lama has something like John, there's something like 1:42:11.880 --> 1:42:17.439 twenty two million followers. I'll just check. That's the Dalo Lama. 1:42:17.479 --> 1:42:19.280 I've just got to spell it right, the Dalo Lama, 1:42:19.880 --> 1:42:23.599 current Dala Lama. I'm following the Dalo Lama eighteen million followers, 1:42:24.400 --> 1:42:28.400 And how many does the Dalai Lama follow? John zero 1:42:29.400 --> 1:42:32.479 eighteen million followers. He doesn't follow anyone on Twitter on X, 1:42:33.240 --> 1:42:35.479 so he doesn't take advice from anyone's he knows everything. 1:42:35.720 --> 1:42:38.120 John one double three eight a D two Todd says 1:42:38.160 --> 1:42:41.479 this biggest beliefs I'm and the cruelty to these animals. 1:42:41.520 --> 1:42:43.519 Our dog gets treated better than the kids. It's true. 1:42:43.680 --> 1:42:48.840 Thanks Todd, Cheers mate, thank you for for your correspondence today. 1:42:49.080 --> 1:42:50.960 A couple more nos have come in. Have you had 1:42:51.000 --> 1:42:52.800 the flu this season? The nose of twenty three, the 1:42:52.920 --> 1:42:55.920 yes of forty six. Let's do this on pers. 1:42:55.840 --> 1:42:59.519 Six pr The stock market reports, Oh he cleare. 1:42:59.400 --> 1:43:03.160 Joins us from Short and Partners that all prices up again, 1:43:03.800 --> 1:43:05.200 and I reckon O he clear is about to have 1:43:05.280 --> 1:43:07.519 the flu injection the sav ohe how are you? 1:43:08.640 --> 1:43:10.599 Yeah, morning Simon, that's true. A few of us here 1:43:10.640 --> 1:43:13.360 in the Shuran Partner's office has decided, after reading the 1:43:13.400 --> 1:43:16.320 press reports this morning, that we might be well advised 1:43:16.320 --> 1:43:19.760 to go and get the flu shots in the city here. 1:43:19.840 --> 1:43:21.560 There are plenty of pharmacies that are doing it, I 1:43:21.600 --> 1:43:24.720 think for free. So why not, we all said. But 1:43:24.880 --> 1:43:27.720 in terms of the oil price, we're living in increasingly 1:43:27.840 --> 1:43:30.320 uncertain times, particularly in the Middle East, and the price 1:43:30.400 --> 1:43:33.680 of a barrel of oil increased around four percent last night. 1:43:33.800 --> 1:43:36.719 Brent crude was as low as just fifty nine dollars 1:43:36.840 --> 1:43:40.240 only last month. It's now at seventy six dollars. That's 1:43:40.280 --> 1:43:42.920 an increase of twenty eight percent. And that's a problem 1:43:43.000 --> 1:43:46.479 not just at the petrol bowser, but increasing transport costs 1:43:46.520 --> 1:43:51.519 could quickly fuel the local inflation rate. And shipping companies 1:43:51.560 --> 1:43:55.320 are avoiding the Strait of muz in the Persian Gulf 1:43:55.479 --> 1:43:59.400 between Iran and Oman. As much as a third of 1:43:59.479 --> 1:44:03.599 all sea point seedborne oil passes through that particular strait, 1:44:03.920 --> 1:44:06.759 and there's been a big spike in interference with ocean 1:44:06.840 --> 1:44:10.960 tankers navigation systems, and yesterday two oil tankers collided and 1:44:11.240 --> 1:44:15.000 bought fire. Fortunately there were no injuries. So all that 1:44:15.160 --> 1:44:18.080 is feeding into higher energy prices, which is really only 1:44:18.160 --> 1:44:21.679 good for energy companies. So from the lows in April, 1:44:21.840 --> 1:44:25.080 the Woodside share price has gone from eighteen dollars sixty 1:44:25.160 --> 1:44:27.960 it's now at twenty five dollars sixty. That's a gain 1:44:28.040 --> 1:44:31.560 of thirty seven percent. And the takeover target Santos have 1:44:31.640 --> 1:44:34.120 increased from five dollars eighty up to seven dollars eighty, 1:44:34.160 --> 1:44:38.000 which is a thirty five percent gain. And unfortunately, as 1:44:38.000 --> 1:44:41.200 the oil price spikes upwards, the iron ore price has 1:44:41.280 --> 1:44:44.679 now sunk below ninety three US dollars a ton. Part 1:44:44.720 --> 1:44:46.880 of that is just because of a seasonal decline that 1:44:46.960 --> 1:44:49.400 happens at this time of year, but there are also 1:44:49.600 --> 1:44:52.960 signs that Chinese steel mills are starting to reduce their 1:44:53.120 --> 1:44:56.760 deal output. It's already about seven percent lower than where 1:44:56.800 --> 1:45:00.559 it was twelve months ago, and in fact, China's total 1:45:00.600 --> 1:45:03.800 steel production in May was at its lowest level since 1:45:03.880 --> 1:45:07.479 twenty eighteen. And on top of the glining debarn for 1:45:07.640 --> 1:45:10.400 our iron ore, there is also the issue of increasing 1:45:10.439 --> 1:45:12.800 iron ore supply coming out of Brazil. They are the 1:45:13.000 --> 1:45:16.760 second largest iron ore producer after Australia, and they exported 1:45:16.800 --> 1:45:20.080 over thirty five million tons of iron ore last month, 1:45:20.200 --> 1:45:22.840 which is a new all time monthly high for them. 1:45:23.240 --> 1:45:26.240 So that's an emerging problem. But share prices here aren't 1:45:26.280 --> 1:45:29.880 too bad today. BHP shares are down only fifty two cents, 1:45:30.000 --> 1:45:33.320 Rio Tinto have fallen by seventy cents, and another sector 1:45:33.360 --> 1:45:36.559 that's been in the headlines a lot recently is rare Earth's. 1:45:37.000 --> 1:45:40.640 The largest producer of rare earth outside of China is 1:45:40.720 --> 1:45:44.160 the Ossi sumpany Last, and the announce today that factory 1:45:44.200 --> 1:45:47.679 in Malaysia has produced a rare earth material called urbium 1:45:47.800 --> 1:45:50.639 for the first time ever. Urbium is used in low 1:45:50.760 --> 1:45:53.680 energy light bulbs, certain type of magnets, and even in 1:45:53.960 --> 1:45:57.000 X ray machines. Line of shares are up twelve cents today. 1:45:57.040 --> 1:45:59.600 They're now at nine dollars sixty six and they have 1:45:59.840 --> 1:46:02.960 increased by over fifty percent so far this calendar year. 1:46:03.240 --> 1:46:05.599 But the broader market continues to mark time. Today, those 1:46:05.640 --> 1:46:08.200 fools by the big iron or producers are being offset 1:46:08.280 --> 1:46:11.200 by gains by the banks. Combank shares are up a 1:46:11.240 --> 1:46:13.559 dollar eighty five. They're now one hundred and eighty one 1:46:13.680 --> 1:46:16.280 dollars and the All lords is down only two points 1:46:16.320 --> 1:46:19.040 where at eighty seven hundred and sixty nine Summit. 1:46:18.920 --> 1:46:21.679 Eight seven six nine. The urbium sounds like a type 1:46:21.720 --> 1:46:25.600 of car. Oh, it sounds like the Nissan Turbium with 1:46:25.800 --> 1:46:26.680 O two advantage. 1:46:26.720 --> 1:46:27.040 I love it. 1:46:27.439 --> 1:46:30.519 Thanks mate, it'll be turbo. Yeah, it will be hey. 1:46:30.800 --> 1:46:33.519 I hope the jab's okay, mate, thebon We'll chatt again tomorrow. 1:46:33.560 --> 1:46:35.000 Thanks so much, We will do. 1:46:35.320 --> 1:46:35.559 Cheers. 1:46:35.840 --> 1:46:38.040 Oh, en Clair, we're asking the question from sure and 1:46:38.080 --> 1:46:40.200 partners are asking the questions today. Have you had the 1:46:40.240 --> 1:46:44.160 flu jeff'sono donnads and no. Michael says, no, I haven't 1:46:44.160 --> 1:46:45.519 had the flu this year. In fact, I haven't had 1:46:45.520 --> 1:46:48.080 the flu since I started having my needle eight years ago. 1:46:48.080 --> 1:46:49.960 I always got the sick before that. Thank you, Michael. 1:46:50.000 --> 1:46:53.120 Good work, Janelle, fifty nine years of age. I've never 1:46:53.200 --> 1:46:55.840 had the flu. I hope I haven't jinxed myself. Janelle, 1:46:55.880 --> 1:46:58.800 well done doing something right there. We had a text 1:46:58.840 --> 1:47:03.719 from Peter earlier on. Peter was worried, was lamenting the size, 1:47:03.960 --> 1:47:08.000 scale and content in the current Waffle budget. So it 1:47:08.080 --> 1:47:11.719 has significantly shrunk in size the previous budget in previous years. 1:47:12.160 --> 1:47:14.519 You know you pay fifteen dollars to get in the Waffle. 1:47:14.880 --> 1:47:20.439 The budget was an Encyclopedia results memory b history. It 1:47:20.640 --> 1:47:23.679 was a pretty awesome publication. Joining us all the way 1:47:24.240 --> 1:47:28.160 from Canadia, the United States of Canadia or Canada is 1:47:28.280 --> 1:47:32.520 Sean Cowen, former budget contributor and master Waffle storyteller. 1:47:32.600 --> 1:47:35.320 Today Sean good Simon, how I am? 1:47:35.400 --> 1:47:38.320 Yeah? Good? Good to see what Canadian province or state 1:47:38.400 --> 1:47:38.720 are you in. 1:47:39.920 --> 1:47:44.439 I am currently in Ottawa, which is an interesting player 1:47:44.520 --> 1:47:45.679 somewhere I hadn't been before. 1:47:46.000 --> 1:47:47.560 Nice to talk to you made I really appreciate so 1:47:47.600 --> 1:47:50.040 eleven thirty at night, it. 1:47:50.160 --> 1:47:53.080 Is indeed yep, and hitting the hay very shortly. 1:47:53.160 --> 1:47:55.280 Let me tell you, all right, I appreciate you talking 1:47:55.320 --> 1:47:57.720 to us. Yeah, so Peter's noticed and I've noticed that 1:47:57.800 --> 1:48:02.960 the budget is nowhere near the size and scale of yesteryear. Sean, 1:48:03.080 --> 1:48:06.800 you used to contribute to it in that that way 1:48:06.960 --> 1:48:09.160 of yours. What's the latest? What are you hearing? 1:48:10.760 --> 1:48:13.639 Yes, Look, the budget undergoes a bit of a review 1:48:14.520 --> 1:48:17.599 every year. I don't think that's particularly formal or anything, 1:48:17.720 --> 1:48:22.120 but like any anything, you're doing business, and you know, football. 1:48:21.840 --> 1:48:22.320 Is a business. 1:48:23.120 --> 1:48:24.519 You know, it's got to pay its way. It's got 1:48:24.600 --> 1:48:26.479 it's got to be able to be affordable for the 1:48:26.720 --> 1:48:28.960 w Footy Commissioner or what are they called now wo 1:48:29.040 --> 1:48:31.840 football And there was a there was a review at 1:48:31.880 --> 1:48:34.080 the start of this year and they needed to cut 1:48:34.160 --> 1:48:39.160 some cost out, so they cut some pages and those 1:48:39.200 --> 1:48:41.920 pages were actually reinstarted a couple of weeks ago because 1:48:41.960 --> 1:48:46.200 of some of the Rusten and Waffle fans who wanted 1:48:46.200 --> 1:48:48.560 a bit more content in the budget. So one of 1:48:48.640 --> 1:48:51.479 those things was actually my column. So Myke column has 1:48:51.479 --> 1:48:55.080 been running since twenty eleven, wasn't running from the start 1:48:55.120 --> 1:48:57.400 of this year, but was reinstarted a few weeks ago 1:48:57.920 --> 1:49:02.000 along with Rick Gorsey's page, which is a waffle footy 1:49:02.080 --> 1:49:06.439 facts and also some other pages that had fixtures and 1:49:07.040 --> 1:49:11.160 ladders and things like that. So there is content in 1:49:11.200 --> 1:49:15.000 the footy budget still that has been there all this year, 1:49:15.080 --> 1:49:18.719 which is usually produced internally by the commission. Mark Reddings 1:49:18.800 --> 1:49:22.200 or Jordan mccardal or one of those guys will produce 1:49:22.439 --> 1:49:25.000 a sort of a story of about two pages for 1:49:25.080 --> 1:49:28.080 the start of the budget, but certainly most of the 1:49:28.120 --> 1:49:30.479 budget these days is the team list. 1:49:30.640 --> 1:49:34.000 Yeah, so Sean, knowing enough about how printing operations work, 1:49:35.400 --> 1:49:37.880 you go up in multiples of four pages. Ordinarily don't 1:49:37.920 --> 1:49:40.960 you get to four, eight, twelves whatever, yea. 1:49:42.320 --> 1:49:44.280 Fours or eights you've got to pull out depending on 1:49:44.880 --> 1:49:46.600 the style of printing. 1:49:46.320 --> 1:49:47.120 That it is a right. 1:49:47.160 --> 1:49:49.120 So last time I went was to watch the Mighty 1:49:49.200 --> 1:49:54.280 Royals play the Falcons on WA Day and the budget 1:49:54.479 --> 1:49:57.360 was was it. We can talk about that till the 1:49:57.400 --> 1:49:58.320 cows come home, mate. 1:49:58.160 --> 1:50:01.080 Now let's not think some but it was. 1:50:01.560 --> 1:50:04.519 Yeah, it was a pretty skinny little addition. So there's 1:50:04.560 --> 1:50:06.960 four new pages have gone back in, including your column, 1:50:07.439 --> 1:50:09.600 and it's still the same size. Its almost like an 1:50:09.600 --> 1:50:10.600 a five size, isn't it. 1:50:11.760 --> 1:50:13.960 It is a snake five size. Those four pages went 1:50:14.040 --> 1:50:16.040 back in for the weekend just on so they were 1:50:16.280 --> 1:50:19.800 they were missing for the previous weekend, but that was 1:50:20.000 --> 1:50:23.120 that was some special reason for that they were missing 1:50:23.160 --> 1:50:24.880 for that weekend, but they had been in the weekend 1:50:24.920 --> 1:50:27.440 before that, and that was the date of the reinstatement. 1:50:28.520 --> 1:50:31.080 But look, one of the one of the things that's 1:50:31.120 --> 1:50:34.360 happened I guess with the with the budget is there 1:50:34.360 --> 1:50:36.920 are so many extra games played now, so you know, 1:50:37.840 --> 1:50:41.240 there's women's football. There wasn't women's football, or certainly it 1:50:41.240 --> 1:50:43.960 wasn't the Waffle w five years ago. So now all 1:50:44.000 --> 1:50:46.120 those team lists need to go into the budget, as 1:50:46.160 --> 1:50:49.320 do the Rogers Cup team lists. So so unless they're 1:50:49.320 --> 1:50:51.519 going to push out the size of the budget, which 1:50:51.760 --> 1:50:54.200 you know means bigger costs, and those costs do get 1:50:54.320 --> 1:50:57.400 passed on to the clubs because it's the clubs that 1:50:57.479 --> 1:51:00.280 obviously sell the budget and get the get the money 1:51:00.320 --> 1:51:02.760 in the door from selling the budget or giving it 1:51:02.880 --> 1:51:06.160 to their to their paying customers who are paying to 1:51:06.360 --> 1:51:10.759 enter the football. You know, So unless you're you're actually 1:51:10.920 --> 1:51:14.200 going to increase the size. Then you've got to cut 1:51:14.240 --> 1:51:16.360 some other content to get those team lists in, because 1:51:16.360 --> 1:51:18.680 the main purpose of the budget is to have those 1:51:18.720 --> 1:51:19.200 team lists. 1:51:19.320 --> 1:51:23.080 Yeah, very instinct, Hey, Sean, there were from memory, I 1:51:23.200 --> 1:51:25.320 think there were. There was an era of budgets that 1:51:25.400 --> 1:51:27.760 you didn't have, and you're always asking people if they did, 1:51:27.800 --> 1:51:28.960 because you've got most of them. 1:51:28.960 --> 1:51:32.439 Have any going back, Look I'm missing I'm missing maybe 1:51:32.640 --> 1:51:36.040 forty or fifty back to nineteen thirty six, which is 1:51:36.040 --> 1:51:38.840 when the budget started. There was a program before that. 1:51:38.960 --> 1:51:41.160 It was just basically the same thing, renamed the WA 1:51:41.240 --> 1:51:45.280 Football And they're particularly hard to find nineteen twenty one 1:51:45.360 --> 1:51:49.360 to nineteen thirty five, but pretty much anything before about 1:51:49.439 --> 1:51:51.200 the mid fifties is very difficult. 1:51:51.320 --> 1:51:54.880 Yeah, and the mobile forty cards albums you got those 1:51:56.040 --> 1:51:56.960 might have made. 1:51:56.800 --> 1:51:59.960 Yeah, nineteen sixty four, nineteen sixty five, and nineteen six 1:52:00.040 --> 1:52:02.240 of any one, they did forty cards in each set, 1:52:02.360 --> 1:52:04.720 and you know, I think a lot of people grew 1:52:04.800 --> 1:52:05.360 up collecting that. 1:52:05.479 --> 1:52:07.760 Yeah, I've got the nineteen seventy one version, no doubt 1:52:07.800 --> 1:52:09.960 about that, Sean. Really good to talk to you, Thanks 1:52:10.200 --> 1:52:13.400 for having a chat. Really good that your column's back 1:52:13.400 --> 1:52:16.439 in there. So you're right one from Canada this week, 1:52:16.439 --> 1:52:16.680 will you? 1:52:17.600 --> 1:52:17.880 I did. 1:52:17.920 --> 1:52:20.080 I actually filed it last night, mate, so it was 1:52:20.320 --> 1:52:23.720 it was sent through and Jackie who's been producing the 1:52:23.760 --> 1:52:28.720 budget that does the production, she was filing back and 1:52:28.840 --> 1:52:31.519 confirming and receipt and that'll be in this week's budget. 1:52:31.600 --> 1:52:33.120 Yeah, brilliant. All right, it was nice to have you 1:52:33.200 --> 1:52:35.320 back in there, mate, and thank you for talking to 1:52:35.479 --> 1:52:39.040 us from Canada. Last time I was there, there was 1:52:39.120 --> 1:52:41.559 a beer called the Bats Blue that was six point 1:52:41.680 --> 1:52:44.720 nine percent. Sean, I would have tried to vote real clear, 1:52:45.080 --> 1:52:46.720 trying to avoid that like the plague. If you can, 1:52:48.240 --> 1:52:48.599 I reckon. 1:52:49.320 --> 1:52:51.840 I think I'm going to stick to the Canadian club, mate, 1:52:51.880 --> 1:52:52.320 But thank you. 1:52:52.720 --> 1:52:54.680 No you well, thanks for chatting to a Sean good 1:52:54.720 --> 1:52:59.400 ma'am any times. I'm cheers, mate, Sean Cowen. The ego, Peter, 1:52:59.479 --> 1:53:03.160 if you're listening incomprehensive, Hey from Shawney. So his column's 1:53:03.200 --> 1:53:05.439 back in. So it's gone. It's expanded by four pages. 1:53:05.479 --> 1:53:09.799 The reason it was cut back, Peter, was for costs reasons. 1:53:09.880 --> 1:53:12.600 The costs are paid by the clubs. There's also the 1:53:12.640 --> 1:53:15.880 waffle w competition needs to be included. Those teams list 1:53:15.960 --> 1:53:18.559 and the Rogers Cup. I don't know what the Rogers 1:53:18.640 --> 1:53:20.360 Cup is that colts. I don't know if someone will know, 1:53:21.240 --> 1:53:23.240 but Shawn's colin goes back in and there's a bit 1:53:23.280 --> 1:53:24.920 of other stuff back in there as well. So you'll 1:53:24.920 --> 1:53:28.519 see the budget expand by four pages. Peter, thanks to 1:53:28.720 --> 1:53:32.040 Sean Cown and thanks for sending in your correspondence. Sadly, 1:53:32.200 --> 1:53:34.679 we've seen the students in the Eastern States pass away 1:53:34.760 --> 1:53:39.760 from what appears to be excessive caffeine ingestion. And I 1:53:40.080 --> 1:53:42.680 want to talk about sleep today. Is sometimes, you know, 1:53:42.760 --> 1:53:46.320 when you're a student, sometimes you might try and get 1:53:46.360 --> 1:53:49.880 yourself through an exam or an assignment period and where 1:53:49.920 --> 1:53:52.040 you don't want to sleep. But most of us spend 1:53:52.080 --> 1:53:53.960 most of our us trying to get to sleep. Have 1:53:54.080 --> 1:53:56.599 we got any trips to stay awake or go to sleep? 1:53:56.680 --> 1:53:59.519 Talk about sleep? Just a sey your tricks to either 1:53:59.560 --> 1:54:02.840 stay away with your trips for going to sleep. There's 1:54:02.840 --> 1:54:05.240 a thing called cognitive shuffling, which you're going to talk 1:54:05.240 --> 1:54:08.000 about in just a moment called to twelve now. Mary says, 1:54:08.040 --> 1:54:11.120 thank you, Mary, Mary says the Rogers Cup is women's colts. 1:54:11.200 --> 1:54:14.200 Thank you, Mary. And natal Lee says it's women's footy 1:54:15.000 --> 1:54:18.040 and colts pooty. Hey, Natalie, thank you. I've always been 1:54:18.120 --> 1:54:20.479 curious that, Kyle says, Kylie, how did the name the 1:54:20.560 --> 1:54:23.439 budget come about? What does have that to do with football? 1:54:23.760 --> 1:54:24.880 What does they have to do with it all? I 1:54:24.920 --> 1:54:27.920 don't know, Kylie, anyone know how whit it's called the budget? 1:54:28.040 --> 1:54:30.960 Was it because of the sponsor? Was it the car people? 1:54:31.080 --> 1:54:34.080 I honestly don't know the budget. The record is the 1:54:34.360 --> 1:54:38.040 AFL one and the budgets our Jeff says footy budget. 1:54:38.040 --> 1:54:40.400 I remember detouring by a bus into Perth on a 1:54:40.440 --> 1:54:43.240 Friday after school to buy a budget. Have you had 1:54:43.280 --> 1:54:49.080 the flu this year? Lots of people saying no. This 1:54:49.240 --> 1:54:51.960 one here from Who's this from? This is from Kerry? 1:54:52.000 --> 1:54:53.880 Hello Kerry. My husband and I went to our GP 1:54:54.000 --> 1:54:56.000 and had a flu needable. A couple of weeks later 1:54:56.000 --> 1:54:58.360 we got COVID. We were both seventy four and had 1:54:58.440 --> 1:55:02.880 to get and you've virals. Scotty of Espirants today, Scott, 1:55:02.920 --> 1:55:04.920 I'm a proud Rulers member, even though I don't get 1:55:04.960 --> 1:55:06.640 too many games each year as they live in Espirants. 1:55:06.640 --> 1:55:09.160 I always buy the budget, but find it easier to 1:55:09.240 --> 1:55:12.200 read on my phone. Still, the printed version comes in handy, 1:55:12.600 --> 1:55:14.520 perfect for saving a seat by the window where you 1:55:14.640 --> 1:55:18.280 duck off to grab a frothy chop a bs is 1:55:18.480 --> 1:55:21.040 Scott Scott. I will say this is a person whose 1:55:21.080 --> 1:55:24.880 eyesight's not great. The budget is getting harder and harder 1:55:24.920 --> 1:55:28.440 to read. It's in size one font these days it's 1:55:28.480 --> 1:55:32.440 bloody hard to read. Talking about sleep, we do spend 1:55:32.440 --> 1:55:34.640 a bit of time either trying to keep ourselves awake. 1:55:34.880 --> 1:55:37.520 We're trying to get ourselves to sleep. Going to speak 1:55:37.560 --> 1:55:42.040 to someone from Monash University in just the second McGarry's 1:55:42.040 --> 1:55:45.720 phone and you've got a sleep remedy, Gary, Yes, yes 1:55:45.840 --> 1:55:46.120 I have. 1:55:48.000 --> 1:55:51.240 This is a quite a natural one. All you need 1:55:51.320 --> 1:55:55.400 to do is take two or the three of zinc 1:55:55.480 --> 1:56:02.520 tablets and also just a ad of salt, just vitually 1:56:02.600 --> 1:56:06.960 put your finger into the salt, just a little bit 1:56:07.040 --> 1:56:09.760 on your finger, put it on your tongue, as well 1:56:09.800 --> 1:56:13.960 as taking the zinc tablets as soon as you ready 1:56:14.040 --> 1:56:17.680 to put your head down, and that will send you 1:56:17.800 --> 1:56:19.040 into a good sleep. 1:56:19.240 --> 1:56:27.120 Yeah, all right, right through the night. Ablutions notwithstanding, well 1:56:27.160 --> 1:56:30.600 I'm not too sure. Sometimes you need to get up 1:56:30.600 --> 1:56:31.320 for a week as. 1:56:32.320 --> 1:56:35.480 Oh, yes, yeah. No, well that's quite the normal with 1:56:35.680 --> 1:56:39.000 me because I'm a fair aid sort of thing. But yeah, 1:56:39.760 --> 1:56:41.360 once or twice I suppose. 1:56:41.080 --> 1:56:44.760 You know, but zinc three zinc tablets and salt on 1:56:44.840 --> 1:56:45.760 the tongue. That works for you. 1:56:47.080 --> 1:56:50.120 Yes, and I'm sure I'll work with a lot of 1:56:50.160 --> 1:56:54.200 other people too without having the defense of buying or 1:56:54.280 --> 1:56:57.040 trying to get scripts for sleeping tablets. 1:56:57.200 --> 1:56:59.120 Yeah, all right, good to talk to you, Gary, Thank you, mate, 1:56:59.200 --> 1:57:03.440 have a good day here he's gone. Linda Jackson is 1:57:03.440 --> 1:57:07.960 an Associate Professor professor in psychology set Monash the Turner 1:57:08.000 --> 1:57:10.400 Institute for Brain and Mental Health. Good ame me, Linda. 1:57:10.520 --> 1:57:10.920 How are you? 1:57:11.960 --> 1:57:12.360 I'm well? 1:57:12.400 --> 1:57:12.720 How are you? 1:57:13.040 --> 1:57:14.720 I'm very well? Thank you? Can you? This is a 1:57:14.800 --> 1:57:18.400 new term to me or for me, cognitive shuffling? 1:57:18.720 --> 1:57:19.160 What is it? 1:57:20.560 --> 1:57:20.800 Yes? 1:57:21.240 --> 1:57:25.840 Yeah, so this is an interesting technique developed a few 1:57:25.920 --> 1:57:29.400 years ago, and it's just a way to try and 1:57:29.560 --> 1:57:34.840 help us to divert attention away from interfering thoughts when 1:57:34.840 --> 1:57:38.280 we're trying to drop off to sleep. So it can 1:57:38.320 --> 1:57:41.400 be helpful for people who perhaps have difficulties falling asleep 1:57:42.240 --> 1:57:43.520 when they first get into bed. 1:57:44.200 --> 1:57:47.720 Yeah, okay, And what does it look like practically? What 1:57:48.640 --> 1:57:53.839 I've heard. It's It may involve letters, it may involve imagery. 1:57:54.000 --> 1:57:55.640 What can you explain it? 1:57:56.720 --> 1:58:00.240 Yeah, of course. So the idea here is to think 1:58:00.360 --> 1:58:05.320 briefly about a really neutral or pleasant target and then 1:58:05.760 --> 1:58:09.480 switch to unrelated targets every five to fifteen seconds. So 1:58:09.640 --> 1:58:11.800 I'll give you an example. So you might pick a 1:58:12.080 --> 1:58:16.280 random word such as bike, and then you focus on 1:58:16.320 --> 1:58:18.760 the first letter of the word, so B, and then 1:58:18.800 --> 1:58:20.920 you start to list a bunch of words that start 1:58:20.960 --> 1:58:24.920 with that letter, say that, bake, bark, whatever it is. 1:58:25.680 --> 1:58:28.240 And as you go through each of those words, you 1:58:28.400 --> 1:58:31.200 start to create a mental image of the word as 1:58:31.280 --> 1:58:34.400 you go along. And then when you feel ready, you'll 1:58:34.440 --> 1:58:36.960 move over to the next letter of bike, which is I, 1:58:37.280 --> 1:58:40.320 and then you repeat the process, and then you continue 1:58:40.440 --> 1:58:43.480 with each letter. And so the idea here, even though 1:58:43.520 --> 1:58:48.080 there's not huge scientific evidence for this approach, it's about 1:58:48.320 --> 1:58:52.600 just trying to change our thought processes a little bit 1:58:52.680 --> 1:58:56.440 and perhaps distract ourselves from other intrusive thoughts that might 1:58:56.560 --> 1:58:59.760 come in that prevent us from falling asleep. 1:59:00.120 --> 1:59:02.520 Ever, given it a will, Melinda, does it work for you? 1:59:03.840 --> 1:59:06.160 I can't say. I have to be honest this one. 1:59:06.240 --> 1:59:09.879 I haven't tried before. It is a newer kind of concept, 1:59:10.040 --> 1:59:13.720 but it's getting a lot of social media interests. It's 1:59:13.760 --> 1:59:16.480 all over TikTok at the moment. So you know, I 1:59:16.520 --> 1:59:19.440 think for people who perhaps are having difficulties falling asleep 1:59:19.520 --> 1:59:22.720 from time to time, it might be worth trying because 1:59:22.760 --> 1:59:25.440 we know that this is how our brains would normally 1:59:25.960 --> 1:59:29.160 for you know, the thought processes that normally would happen. 1:59:29.880 --> 1:59:33.520 As we fall asleep, our brain activity starts to slow down, 1:59:34.200 --> 1:59:38.040 and we start to generate sort of images and fleeting 1:59:38.240 --> 1:59:42.560 scenes and without consciousness that this is sort of not 1:59:42.680 --> 1:59:45.040 really you know, we're not really making sense of this. 1:59:46.200 --> 1:59:50.560 And so this process, this cognitive shuffling, this kind of 1:59:50.680 --> 1:59:54.160 mimics the natural process that happens in our brains, particularly 1:59:54.280 --> 1:59:55.200 for a good sleeper. 1:59:56.080 --> 1:59:58.560 On the other side of malenda, sometimes in our lives 1:59:58.600 --> 1:59:59.880 and you know, whether you have a set of you 2:00:00.040 --> 2:00:03.320 university exams or whatever it is, sometimes you need to 2:00:03.560 --> 2:00:06.680 try and stay awake for longer than you would like 2:00:07.600 --> 2:00:11.640 without affecting your health. We'd very sad story that Thesa 2:00:11.720 --> 2:00:15.960 States UNI student has overdosed on caffeine tablets. Do you 2:00:16.000 --> 2:00:18.520 have any any healthy, healthy ways of staying awake. 2:00:20.760 --> 2:00:23.840 Yeah, so I guess you know, if there are times 2:00:23.840 --> 2:00:27.120 where we do need to stay awake later in the evening, 2:00:27.240 --> 2:00:31.320 then you know, perhaps having some caffeine, perhaps not caffeine tablets, 2:00:31.400 --> 2:00:34.480 but you know, even just a cup of coffee later 2:00:34.600 --> 2:00:38.640 in the day where we normally wouldn't recommend that that 2:00:38.800 --> 2:00:41.400 might just help to keep you awake a little bit later. 2:00:42.760 --> 2:00:45.320 But also you know, maybe planning ahead and having a 2:00:45.400 --> 2:00:48.040 bit of a nap during the day if you know 2:00:48.200 --> 2:00:51.360 you have to stay up later at night, that might 2:00:51.520 --> 2:00:54.840 just help to sustain you and you know, so that 2:00:54.920 --> 2:00:58.080 you're able to maintain your alertness later into the evening. 2:00:58.440 --> 2:01:01.480 Yeah, all right, Melinda, thanks for chatting to us today. 2:01:01.480 --> 2:01:03.760 We'll see what our listeners think, what they what little 2:01:03.840 --> 2:01:07.120 techniques they may use, healthy ones of course. Well appreciate 2:01:07.200 --> 2:01:07.520 the chat. 2:01:08.480 --> 2:01:09.640 Thanks, thank you. 2:01:10.040 --> 2:01:13.320 See I'm Linda Jackson, Associate Professor in psychology at Monash University, 2:01:13.400 --> 2:01:16.600 the Turner Institute for Brain and Mental Health. Cognitive shuffling, 2:01:16.640 --> 2:01:19.000 you get a word, you know, you take the letter. 2:01:19.320 --> 2:01:21.520 I guess you know it's apparent what it means. You're 2:01:21.520 --> 2:01:24.600 distracting yourself, isn't it, And you try to shuffle different 2:01:24.640 --> 2:01:28.640 words and disassociate from the job at hand. I think 2:01:28.680 --> 2:01:30.720 if you try to tell yourself to go to go 2:01:30.760 --> 2:01:33.440 to sleep, you never can, can you. That's the that's 2:01:33.480 --> 2:01:35.720 the great iron of it. And trying to stay awake, 2:01:35.880 --> 2:01:37.840 and what do you do. I don't I think that 2:01:37.920 --> 2:01:41.240 you can still buy over the counter medications like no dose. 2:01:41.360 --> 2:01:43.640 I think I think you can buy noes to keep 2:01:43.680 --> 2:01:46.360 yourself awake. It's a bit of a university trick. Maybe 2:01:46.480 --> 2:01:50.720 some diet coke or coke. Don't know that having too 2:01:50.840 --> 2:01:53.840 much coke or diet coke is healthy for you because 2:01:53.840 --> 2:01:56.800 of the cyclo mates and the other things. Four minutes 2:01:56.840 --> 2:01:59.640 to mid day Summer Google will join us after twelve 2:02:00.160 --> 2:02:02.600 gardening questions in early but I'd love to hear from 2:02:02.640 --> 2:02:04.440 you one double three eight eddy two or you can 2:02:04.480 --> 2:02:07.520 text the zero four, eight seven, triple nine eight etty two. 2:02:09.800 --> 2:02:12.840 Thanks listening there today. After midday today, Sue mc google 2:02:13.080 --> 2:02:15.560 am will join us to gardening and Home Hoarder cooxus, 2:02:15.600 --> 2:02:17.440 So get your gardening calls. Are ready to come in 2:02:18.320 --> 2:02:20.640 yes or no, keeping a tally right through to one o'clock. 2:02:20.720 --> 2:02:22.200 Have you had the flu this season? The yes is 2:02:22.200 --> 2:02:25.680 are twenty four the Nose fifty six. Thanks for listening 2:02:26.080 --> 2:02:30.920 midday right now. Sue mcgogle, Hello. 2:02:31.360 --> 2:02:32.400 Hi, Saren, how are you. 2:02:32.600 --> 2:02:34.680 I was thinking, you know, when you say I haven't 2:02:34.720 --> 2:02:36.680 got the flu yet, next week you get it. 2:02:37.200 --> 2:02:38.960 That's that's superstitious. 2:02:39.040 --> 2:02:41.840 So don't even mention it. Don't get too far ahead 2:02:41.880 --> 2:02:43.480 of yourself. Exactly right, had it? 2:02:44.640 --> 2:02:49.000 I get a flu shot every year? I yeah, I years. 2:02:49.000 --> 2:02:50.600 A guy had it and I said, I don't want 2:02:50.640 --> 2:02:53.120 to be that sick ever again. So and I haven't 2:02:53.120 --> 2:02:56.320 got time to be that sick, and so I always yeah. 2:02:56.240 --> 2:02:58.440 Yeah, yeah, that's right, So I do. I'm going to 2:02:58.440 --> 2:03:00.320 ask you about lightscaping just a moment. I was up 2:03:00.320 --> 2:03:03.400 there the other night having a wander through the beautiful 2:03:03.480 --> 2:03:05.760 gardens and all these security guards is, mate, you can't 2:03:05.760 --> 2:03:07.240 go down there. You can't go down there. You need 2:03:07.280 --> 2:03:10.440 to turn around. There's fences, which to me. In the case, 2:03:10.520 --> 2:03:12.560 it's been popular. He's got some numbers through the door. 2:03:12.760 --> 2:03:15.440 It's been really popular some of this year. 2:03:15.640 --> 2:03:20.720 The whole displays talking about pollinators and Can't Live without 2:03:20.760 --> 2:03:23.320 You and talking about plan adaptations for our West Australian 2:03:23.360 --> 2:03:27.280 flora uniqueness. But it's also a little bit of education, 2:03:27.640 --> 2:03:31.360 a little bit of community art, international artists. So it's 2:03:31.440 --> 2:03:34.640 a great way to appreciate the Botanic Garden at a 2:03:34.720 --> 2:03:37.480 time you wouldn't always it would never be lit up, 2:03:37.560 --> 2:03:41.160 of course, and so being able to appreciate our unique 2:03:41.200 --> 2:03:44.520 asset that we've got something we feel very very special 2:03:44.560 --> 2:03:47.760 and privileged. And I think being able to put a 2:03:47.840 --> 2:03:51.080 focus on the West Australian Botanic Garden to a group families. 2:03:51.160 --> 2:03:54.920 And when I was going through LightScape on the preview night, 2:03:55.160 --> 2:03:58.640 it was so heartening to hear and see all these 2:03:58.800 --> 2:04:03.480 kids were just ah, so mesmerized and just it's so 2:04:03.600 --> 2:04:07.000 magical and I think, you know, your team quite a 2:04:07.040 --> 2:04:09.360 few of those said it was fantastic. Yeah it was 2:04:09.480 --> 2:04:11.480 raining and they just said it added to it, and 2:04:11.560 --> 2:04:12.200 I think it does. 2:04:12.400 --> 2:04:13.840 It's a great part of the park. I mean there's 2:04:13.880 --> 2:04:15.960 lots of great parts of King's Park. It's so different 2:04:16.400 --> 2:04:19.520 in different parts. But that natural amphitheater that runs down 2:04:19.560 --> 2:04:22.640 to the fountain and the surround and the creek that 2:04:22.800 --> 2:04:25.480 runs through is it's a really specky bit, isn't it. 2:04:25.760 --> 2:04:27.760 It is a specky bit and it's actually we feel 2:04:27.840 --> 2:04:31.120 very privileged. The whole team a huge sense of a 2:04:31.160 --> 2:04:34.760 responsibility to be able to care for it and present 2:04:34.880 --> 2:04:39.120 it in a way that focuses on our living collection 2:04:39.280 --> 2:04:43.120 and focuses on the West Australian flora, but also be 2:04:43.240 --> 2:04:45.600 able to appreciate it in its natural state. And I 2:04:45.680 --> 2:04:50.800 think that that's something really really significant for Western Australia. 2:04:50.880 --> 2:04:54.000 I mean, it's unique location across the world. There's not 2:04:54.080 --> 2:04:57.200 many well we know, there's no inner city parks that 2:04:58.080 --> 2:05:01.760 have that much bushland in a urban environment. It's one 2:05:01.800 --> 2:05:04.240 of the largest inner city parks in the world, but 2:05:04.360 --> 2:05:07.600 also one of the few botanic gardens that focuses on 2:05:07.680 --> 2:05:10.480 the local flora, and that research, of course is getting 2:05:10.680 --> 2:05:12.400 more and more important for the future. 2:05:12.600 --> 2:05:13.880 Yeah, there's plenty of to do it. There have plenty 2:05:13.880 --> 2:05:15.800 of walks to be had in little jogs and bike 2:05:15.920 --> 2:05:20.800 rides and sweeping views. Any animals of introduced animals at 2:05:20.800 --> 2:05:22.960 the moment too. I've seen Maron, I've I've seen a 2:05:23.000 --> 2:05:23.880 white rabbit as you know. 2:05:24.160 --> 2:05:27.840 Yeah, exactly. We did have a few chucks for a while. 2:05:28.640 --> 2:05:32.720 When I say introduced, I think there's a few foxes around, 2:05:33.040 --> 2:05:35.880 but I haven't seen any chucks for a while, so 2:05:36.560 --> 2:05:39.960 exit too expensive that nobody's dumping their chooks anywhere. I 2:05:40.080 --> 2:05:44.600 don't think, Simon, but I'm sure we'll find out. We 2:05:44.720 --> 2:05:48.680 are absolutely hammered by rabbits every year. And you know 2:05:49.360 --> 2:05:54.680 the we plant over fifty thousand annual plants to make 2:05:54.720 --> 2:05:59.080 that beautiful display in spring, and we're not fifty fifty 2:05:59.480 --> 2:06:02.600 in total thousands of our annual plants. 2:06:03.080 --> 2:06:06.040 And they are like lollies to rabbits. 2:06:06.120 --> 2:06:08.040 Yes, and so may you. 2:06:08.120 --> 2:06:12.879 One of our hordiculturists from who looks after the particular 2:06:13.080 --> 2:06:16.440 entrance the botanic garden, she's cursings all the time. 2:06:16.600 --> 2:06:19.400 So if anyone's got any ideas to hear. 2:06:19.400 --> 2:06:21.880 You've never been a massive fan of rabbits, given the 2:06:21.960 --> 2:06:25.200 damage they can do. I know you've long long advocated 2:06:25.280 --> 2:06:31.000 against the rabbit community. Wendy's phoned in, Hi, Wendy, Oh, 2:06:32.840 --> 2:06:33.440 I'd like to know. 2:06:34.200 --> 2:06:36.480 Is it too late to prove a mango tree. 2:06:38.200 --> 2:06:40.480 I'd say yes, we're just at the start of winter 2:06:40.960 --> 2:06:43.400 and there's a couple of things. Depending on our season, 2:06:43.600 --> 2:06:47.200 there won't be too many weeks away and people will 2:06:47.240 --> 2:06:49.720 be ringing up saying, oh, my mango tree is flowering, 2:06:50.160 --> 2:06:51.840 because when it's quite a warm. 2:06:51.680 --> 2:06:52.680 Start to the season. 2:06:52.760 --> 2:06:56.400 They flower very early and if we prune it now 2:06:56.840 --> 2:06:58.800 we have a little bit of warm weather and it 2:06:58.920 --> 2:07:01.640 sends out its new growth. We're going to prune off 2:07:01.920 --> 2:07:05.760 either some of the flowering stalks, but also open up 2:07:05.800 --> 2:07:08.600 areas to anthracnose and n threat nose is the problem 2:07:08.720 --> 2:07:11.040 that mangoes get with the cold weather. That beautiful new 2:07:11.120 --> 2:07:14.160 growth that comes through can get damaged by the cold. 2:07:14.320 --> 2:07:17.520 So we wait for it to flower. Well, look at it, 2:07:17.800 --> 2:07:21.600 and then you will selectively prune some of the branches 2:07:21.640 --> 2:07:24.560 out at the beginning of spring, and those branches. Make 2:07:24.680 --> 2:07:27.680 sure you leave the branches that are going to protect 2:07:27.720 --> 2:07:29.680 the fruit because the fruit holds onto the tree for 2:07:29.800 --> 2:07:33.520 such a long time. Right over summer and trim you 2:07:33.560 --> 2:07:36.600 almost trim say a half or a third of those 2:07:36.680 --> 2:07:38.920 branches out, and next year what you haven't pruned, you 2:07:39.040 --> 2:07:42.520 prune again. So you're selectively thinning out the branches to 2:07:42.640 --> 2:07:43.000 shape it. 2:07:44.400 --> 2:07:47.480 Oh excellent, okay, all right, thank you very much, sir. 2:07:47.600 --> 2:07:48.640 That's okay. Savor jokes. 2:07:49.280 --> 2:07:50.840 Do you say Glendelow Glendelock? 2:07:51.400 --> 2:07:53.280 I say Glendelow, But should it be. 2:07:53.360 --> 2:07:56.120 Lock on the train? They say Glendelow, don't they? 2:07:56.600 --> 2:07:59.040 Yeah, I think so. I think so. I'd never even 2:07:59.120 --> 2:07:59.640 thought about it. 2:07:59.720 --> 2:08:02.800 Yeah, we go all right, that's. 2:08:02.680 --> 2:08:05.080 A dilemma, isn't it. Now I'm worried. 2:08:06.320 --> 2:08:06.720 Very much. 2:08:09.600 --> 2:08:10.400 Yeah, here you go. 2:08:11.280 --> 2:08:13.760 So I've got a grass trees so hard one. Yeah, 2:08:14.480 --> 2:08:17.200 I got more header into it to prune all the 2:08:17.640 --> 2:08:20.520 dead bush under me. No, people are saying, now, just 2:08:20.680 --> 2:08:22.160 right up to get rid of the rest of the 2:08:22.280 --> 2:08:23.400 dead stuff around the head. 2:08:24.080 --> 2:08:24.520 Is that right? 2:08:26.240 --> 2:08:28.360 What's the fire risk of everything around it? 2:08:28.880 --> 2:08:29.640 They go up. 2:08:30.280 --> 2:08:34.000 You would not believe they just spark grass trees. 2:08:34.200 --> 2:08:34.720 Yeah they do. 2:08:35.080 --> 2:08:35.280 They do. 2:08:36.560 --> 2:08:40.000 Oh, they're just so dry, so dry, and you'll end 2:08:40.120 --> 2:08:42.600 up with sparks that don't last for very long. 2:08:42.680 --> 2:08:43.760 But yeah, they just go up. 2:08:44.440 --> 2:08:48.800 What what it does do, Nick, is it cleans up 2:08:48.840 --> 2:08:51.000 any scale insects that are in it, or any bugs 2:08:51.040 --> 2:08:55.040 that are in it. And so I the traditional way 2:08:55.120 --> 2:08:59.160 that they're being managed in urban landscapes as well is 2:08:59.240 --> 2:09:01.480 that I said them a light and it cleans them 2:09:01.520 --> 2:09:03.680 up and then they develop that skirt because they are 2:09:03.760 --> 2:09:07.800 a are a fire hazard as well. But whilst the 2:09:07.880 --> 2:09:10.120 skirt is there, they're also a really good habitat for 2:09:10.200 --> 2:09:13.600 bandicoots and things. So yes, what it tends to do 2:09:13.760 --> 2:09:17.760 also is encourage them to send out a flower stalk 2:09:18.000 --> 2:09:18.400 as well. 2:09:18.560 --> 2:09:20.400 So it depends on what you want to do. 2:09:21.000 --> 2:09:24.120 Be super careful of any other foliage around it, Nick, 2:09:24.240 --> 2:09:27.200 or any house, anything that's flammable around it, because it 2:09:27.280 --> 2:09:28.160 certainly will go up. 2:09:30.360 --> 2:09:35.920 Yep, no, yeah, true, true. But I've trimmed, I've trimmed 2:09:36.080 --> 2:09:38.840 or of dead rod off as much. And I know 2:09:38.880 --> 2:09:41.440 what you're saying up, so I just I just want 2:09:41.480 --> 2:09:42.680 to make sure it's not going to kill. 2:09:42.600 --> 2:09:46.840 It, won't kill it at all. Yeah, thank you, thanks, 2:09:47.280 --> 2:09:48.720 good on mate. Hello Linley, how are you? 2:09:51.160 --> 2:09:51.400 Hello? 2:09:51.920 --> 2:09:54.280 Yeah, Hi Linny, Hi, hey. 2:09:54.240 --> 2:09:57.600 Gang, thank you. So I'd like to out there and 2:09:57.720 --> 2:10:01.680 have a look at some kangaroo paus, but I have 2:10:02.400 --> 2:10:06.320 been some a walking so for trolley thing. So where 2:10:06.360 --> 2:10:07.760 can I park and get. 2:10:07.680 --> 2:10:12.160 Up there to go in to light escape Lindley or 2:10:12.360 --> 2:10:14.800 to the Botanic Garden to have a look at the 2:10:14.840 --> 2:10:15.560 kangaroo paws. 2:10:16.480 --> 2:10:17.600 Yeah, yeah, okay. 2:10:17.800 --> 2:10:20.640 So if you go to the main car park if 2:10:20.680 --> 2:10:23.480 you have a trolley walking, we have accessible pathways, so 2:10:23.840 --> 2:10:27.520 there are atron parking bays right at the front that's 2:10:27.600 --> 2:10:28.919 closest to our stakes. 2:10:29.280 --> 2:10:30.960 Yeah, no problem at all with that. 2:10:31.360 --> 2:10:35.640 And then what we call our mound, so that features 2:10:36.040 --> 2:10:38.240 our West Australian flora. So if you only have such 2:10:38.240 --> 2:10:41.200 a short time in spring, they're looking amazing. So the 2:10:41.280 --> 2:10:44.800 kangaroo paws aren't quite looking amazing yet, just a little 2:10:44.800 --> 2:10:49.120 bit early in the season. So in September early September 2:10:49.360 --> 2:10:53.040 Lindley is when you would head on lots of acron 2:10:53.120 --> 2:10:56.480 parking there. It's only short walk and then you'll see 2:10:56.680 --> 2:10:58.880 them right at the entrance to the Botanic Garden and 2:10:59.040 --> 2:11:02.280 around the mound, which is virtually opposite their entrance to aspects. 2:11:02.680 --> 2:11:06.040 Sure easy that pathway that's quite wide. 2:11:05.840 --> 2:11:09.080 And open and the mound always got yeah, we call 2:11:09.120 --> 2:11:14.160 it the mound, yeah, And it was originally the concept 2:11:14.480 --> 2:11:18.280 was conceived to be out for those people who are 2:11:18.360 --> 2:11:20.640 on a bus tour and he had a short few minutes, 2:11:20.840 --> 2:11:24.760 they can get a really good oversight of what's looking spectacular. 2:11:25.320 --> 2:11:28.920 We are why we are celebrating West Australian flora and 2:11:29.240 --> 2:11:33.000 each year, depending who's the coordinator of that area, has 2:11:33.200 --> 2:11:36.520 an opportunity to put their own take on that area. 2:11:36.800 --> 2:11:39.400 So some people absolutely love the responsibility of that. 2:11:39.600 --> 2:11:42.960 Some of our team and others feel a huge sense 2:11:43.000 --> 2:11:45.840 of responsibility to get it right. So some years the 2:11:45.920 --> 2:11:48.840 colors are very different to what the others. But that's 2:11:49.000 --> 2:11:52.080 what I think part of the allure and the romance 2:11:52.320 --> 2:11:53.560 the wo Botanic garden is. 2:11:53.720 --> 2:11:53.840 Is that? 2:11:53.920 --> 2:11:56.040 Okay, lin assorted. 2:11:55.640 --> 2:12:00.440 There, Yeah, I've a good idea. We can oaps traps. 2:12:00.840 --> 2:12:04.840 I'm sure you've got some traps too, a rabbit, your 2:12:04.960 --> 2:12:06.360 rabbits to have a stew. 2:12:08.160 --> 2:12:11.600 We'd have to get a very humane trap, Linley, because 2:12:11.680 --> 2:12:14.480 I know you can't can't do that and it probably 2:12:14.560 --> 2:12:15.720 it plays at all. 2:12:16.080 --> 2:12:20.360 So putting out traps on the mountain, yeah, exactly, thanks, 2:12:20.760 --> 2:12:21.040 But I. 2:12:21.120 --> 2:12:23.240 Think there's a few people who have fond memories of 2:12:23.320 --> 2:12:24.320 rabbit stew, isn't there. 2:12:24.520 --> 2:12:27.480 Yeah, yeah, there is. Then you get up there in September, 2:12:27.480 --> 2:12:29.400 and I know the area soon means so if you 2:12:29.480 --> 2:12:33.520 part behind behind the State Reception Center and aspects is 2:12:33.560 --> 2:12:36.520 the shop, that area there and you can just virtually 2:12:36.560 --> 2:12:38.240 walk straight downs where the log used to. 2:12:38.240 --> 2:12:40.200 Be, pretty much where the log used to be, and 2:12:40.280 --> 2:12:42.200 it turned to compost and it had more concrete in 2:12:42.280 --> 2:12:44.520 it to try in the log, didn't it. 2:12:45.080 --> 2:12:48.360 So yeah, the compost has been gone back. 2:12:48.240 --> 2:12:50.480 To the soul, so it's been distributed through the park 2:12:51.000 --> 2:12:53.120 eighteen eighteen and a half minutes past midday. If you'd 2:12:53.120 --> 2:12:54.600 like to speak to so you can one double three 2:12:54.720 --> 2:12:58.200 eight eighty two. Would love to hear from you. Sue 2:12:58.240 --> 2:13:01.120 McDougal oam is with us on double three eight to two. 2:13:01.120 --> 2:13:02.680 I've liked phone, so you can. 2:13:03.240 --> 2:13:03.280 So. 2:13:03.320 --> 2:13:05.560 There's still tickets available for LightScape, isn't there? 2:13:05.720 --> 2:13:07.640 Yeah, there certainly is, and we go to I think 2:13:07.640 --> 2:13:11.839 it's the twenty seventh of July, so please book your tickets. 2:13:11.880 --> 2:13:14.360 I know the busy days of the weekends, there's peak 2:13:14.400 --> 2:13:17.440 and off peak, there's some We've really tried to keep 2:13:17.480 --> 2:13:19.760 the price down under one hundred dollars for a family 2:13:20.560 --> 2:13:23.320 to make affordable. But it's just such a fantastic event. 2:13:23.440 --> 2:13:25.880 So yeah, please book tickets. I'll say tell your friends 2:13:25.880 --> 2:13:27.520 if you've been how. 2:13:27.400 --> 2:13:27.840 Good it is? 2:13:28.160 --> 2:13:31.360 Yep, LightScape up at Kingspark. Don't have a look Kings 2:13:31.440 --> 2:13:34.280 Park and Botanic Gardens. It's twenty two minutes past twelve 2:13:34.320 --> 2:13:34.600 could I. 2:13:34.640 --> 2:13:37.560 Rod good afternoon? 2:13:38.360 --> 2:13:40.880 So I the drinad trip. 2:13:41.280 --> 2:13:45.160 I dealt with it pretty well with my roses this year, 2:13:45.200 --> 2:13:48.400 but they destroyed the daily is the question I have? 2:13:48.680 --> 2:13:51.200 Is that likely to affect the corns, I lift the 2:13:51.280 --> 2:13:56.440 corns in the ground, Is it just you know, well, yes, 2:13:56.520 --> 2:13:57.080 that's the question. 2:13:57.680 --> 2:13:58.000 That is. 2:13:59.480 --> 2:14:02.720 So chili thrips of course with roses, but there's quite 2:14:02.760 --> 2:14:04.960 a few other types of thrips. There's plague thrips, and 2:14:05.040 --> 2:14:08.040 there's western flower thrips, and so it's something that we 2:14:08.160 --> 2:14:11.840 do have to live with when we're growing gladioli, dahlias, 2:14:12.080 --> 2:14:14.360 even some of our native plants get affected by thrips. 2:14:15.120 --> 2:14:17.960 What we find is as long as the plant is 2:14:18.000 --> 2:14:20.840 growing nice and healthy, all the nutrients and the extra 2:14:21.000 --> 2:14:24.120 even if the flowers get damaged, then the foliage gets damaged. 2:14:24.520 --> 2:14:27.560 If you can keep really strong plants, strong stems, as 2:14:27.640 --> 2:14:30.640 they start to die back, the corms will still be there. 2:14:30.960 --> 2:14:33.360 Rod So your dailia tubers, I should say is what 2:14:33.440 --> 2:14:37.480 we call them, will still be their mine. Actually, dailias 2:14:37.520 --> 2:14:40.240 this year got really affected by the heat, died back 2:14:40.320 --> 2:14:43.000 down through dry and then started to shoot again when 2:14:43.160 --> 2:14:44.680 we'd had a little bit of rain. So that all 2:14:44.840 --> 2:14:49.800 totally confused as well, So totally understand it won't if 2:14:49.840 --> 2:14:50.600 you leave them there. 2:14:51.640 --> 2:14:52.080 First year. 2:14:52.120 --> 2:14:54.920 Actually, when we went to Europe first year that a 2:14:54.960 --> 2:14:58.080 couple of gardens had commented that they'd left the Dahlia 2:14:58.160 --> 2:15:00.560 tubers in the ground over winter, that's how much the 2:15:00.600 --> 2:15:03.280 climate's changed, and they were shooting away again. 2:15:03.600 --> 2:15:05.760 So leaving them there, feeding them as. 2:15:05.720 --> 2:15:09.520 They start to die back, encouraging those extra nutrients go 2:15:09.640 --> 2:15:12.320 back to the tuba is going to help the plants 2:15:12.360 --> 2:15:13.040 for next season. 2:15:14.320 --> 2:15:14.600 Great. 2:15:14.880 --> 2:15:19.320 One other question, if if I good, please, seedlings seem 2:15:19.400 --> 2:15:24.880 to be in short supply. Is there are you aware 2:15:24.920 --> 2:15:26.720 of any reason why they're not producing? 2:15:27.480 --> 2:15:32.120 I am, and it's actually a really good topic that 2:15:32.200 --> 2:15:34.880 we need to talk about. One of the major suppliers 2:15:34.920 --> 2:15:38.120 has stopped their flower production. They're actually moving and we 2:15:38.360 --> 2:15:42.360 have had a problem being able to source Australia in 2:15:42.440 --> 2:15:46.120 Western Australia major production and they are in short supply. 2:15:46.880 --> 2:15:50.720 I know for a fact that business is reviewing their 2:15:52.000 --> 2:15:57.320 product mix and with our changing climate, questioning whether annual 2:15:57.400 --> 2:16:00.320 seedlings are actually going to be part of the product 2:16:00.400 --> 2:16:03.600 mix in the numbers that they had going forward in 2:16:03.640 --> 2:16:06.959 the future, and so looking at some of the hardier varieties, 2:16:07.120 --> 2:16:10.120 looking at protocols to grow some of our West Australian 2:16:10.120 --> 2:16:10.560 plants as. 2:16:10.520 --> 2:16:11.640 Well as annual seedlings. 2:16:12.160 --> 2:16:17.280 And so because of that supplier coming out of the market, 2:16:17.920 --> 2:16:21.720 and that is linked to availability of water for them 2:16:21.880 --> 2:16:25.800 to grow the plants as well. So it's a much 2:16:25.960 --> 2:16:32.200 bigger picture than staff availability or the industry just not 2:16:32.320 --> 2:16:35.480 being geared up or expected demand. There's much bigger questions 2:16:35.560 --> 2:16:38.800 being asked at the moment or being reviewed at the moment. 2:16:39.000 --> 2:16:39.160 Rod. 2:16:39.520 --> 2:16:42.160 Yeah, all right, Rob, watch this space so soon. Can 2:16:42.240 --> 2:16:44.160 I keep you appraise of that? Mate? Thank you very 2:16:44.240 --> 2:16:46.320 much for your calls today on dahlias and ceilings. Can 2:16:46.400 --> 2:16:46.800 they Harry? 2:16:48.320 --> 2:16:50.880 Oh Hill, here you goes Hi, Harry. 2:16:52.320 --> 2:16:54.320 So I value your information, I really do. 2:16:54.480 --> 2:16:57.200 But I've got a Mandarin three which I've had now 2:16:57.280 --> 2:17:01.040 for close on twenty five years. I've done anything and 2:17:01.120 --> 2:17:04.560 everything with it. I've even removed the existing soil, which 2:17:04.680 --> 2:17:07.560 was the usual beat stand up at Jodler, and I've 2:17:07.560 --> 2:17:10.760 actually put really good rich soil and that was made 2:17:10.800 --> 2:17:16.600 for me by a soil mob yep. And it produced mandarins. Yes, 2:17:17.120 --> 2:17:19.359 for the last three years it's been producing mandarins. 2:17:19.400 --> 2:17:20.840 But they are totally inedible. 2:17:20.920 --> 2:17:24.920 They are so sour and smell really bitter. 2:17:25.320 --> 2:17:26.640 Yeah, what am I doing? 2:17:26.800 --> 2:17:27.720 What am I doing wrong? 2:17:28.240 --> 2:17:29.840 Is it a mandarin tree? 2:17:30.720 --> 2:17:33.080 That's what we want to ask to start with, Is 2:17:33.120 --> 2:17:36.240 it a mandarin tree, is it kalamondon which looks like 2:17:36.400 --> 2:17:39.440 a mandarin a little round fruit. Depending on the variety. 2:17:41.160 --> 2:17:44.920 I would say you're an incredibly patient person because after 2:17:45.000 --> 2:17:48.560 that time, if that sour that variety I suspect is 2:17:48.600 --> 2:17:52.640 actually not a mandarin. It's been labeled wrong twenty five years, 2:17:52.680 --> 2:17:55.120 that's amazing, or it's roots that that's taken over, or 2:17:55.160 --> 2:17:59.120 it's actually a kalamandon. To start with, Harry, there's a 2:17:59.160 --> 2:18:01.040 couple of things that you can Usually you can tell 2:18:01.280 --> 2:18:04.440 a mandarin by the leaf shape. It's quite specific. But 2:18:04.600 --> 2:18:07.120 if you crunch the leaves you will be able to 2:18:07.320 --> 2:18:11.040 smell mandarin in. It sounds silly, but it's true. If 2:18:11.080 --> 2:18:12.640 it's a lime tree, if you crunch the leaves, you 2:18:12.680 --> 2:18:15.480 can smell lime. So you can get a really bit 2:18:15.600 --> 2:18:19.840 of an idea of what it actually is. And I 2:18:19.959 --> 2:18:25.280 would be suspecting it may be either a calamondon, which 2:18:25.480 --> 2:18:27.760 looks similar, very small round fruit. 2:18:29.360 --> 2:18:33.840 Harry, No, exactly. I think it's the tree. It's a tree. 2:18:34.040 --> 2:18:34.600 It might be. 2:18:36.520 --> 2:18:38.200 Marmalade, might not be. 2:18:38.520 --> 2:18:41.880 Yeah, it might not be a mandarin. Give that a bill, Harry. 2:18:42.080 --> 2:18:43.879 See what you come up with, and we we're here. 2:18:44.120 --> 2:18:46.080 You know for to talk to Sue each and every week. 2:18:46.120 --> 2:18:50.680 So let us know how you go. Harry's gone THINGU 2:18:50.760 --> 2:18:51.200 Max gooda. 2:18:51.280 --> 2:18:56.680 Bob Okay, Hi Bob, how can we help you with 2:18:56.760 --> 2:18:57.320 your roses? 2:19:00.120 --> 2:19:01.720 When do I prune my roses? 2:19:02.600 --> 2:19:03.240 Where do you live? 2:19:05.280 --> 2:19:05.879 Ellen Brook? 2:19:06.080 --> 2:19:06.360 Okay? 2:19:08.080 --> 2:19:08.400 Roses? 2:19:08.440 --> 2:19:08.800 This year? 2:19:08.840 --> 2:19:11.600 I know they're having lots of late flowers self. Notice 2:19:11.640 --> 2:19:14.120 still quite a few roses hanging on. It's a very 2:19:14.200 --> 2:19:18.119 fine line to when they slow down totally and you've 2:19:18.120 --> 2:19:19.840 still got a few flowers, so you think, ah, just 2:19:19.879 --> 2:19:22.320 put some just leave them for a little while to 2:19:22.440 --> 2:19:25.520 enjoy those flowers. So middle of July to the end 2:19:25.560 --> 2:19:27.840 of July, Bob, is when we'd be looking at pruning 2:19:27.920 --> 2:19:30.960 them for this year. We are in the middle of June. 2:19:31.200 --> 2:19:33.320 We still need about three or four weeks. I think 2:19:33.520 --> 2:19:36.120 this cold weather helps, even though it's still not freezing 2:19:36.560 --> 2:19:39.280 and the nighttime temperatures. We want those plants to slow down. 2:19:39.640 --> 2:19:42.400 So even if you've still got leaves on them, when 2:19:42.440 --> 2:19:45.480 you prune them, if you can give them, pull all 2:19:45.560 --> 2:19:49.560 the old foliage off, and if there's any sap flowing 2:19:49.760 --> 2:19:53.200 or any new growth coming through with your roses, give 2:19:53.240 --> 2:19:56.240 them a cover spray of white oil rather than lime sulfur, 2:19:56.360 --> 2:19:59.280 because lime sulfur will burn the new growth that's coming through, 2:19:59.520 --> 2:20:02.160 and whit tool will just clean up any might insects, 2:20:02.640 --> 2:20:05.480 any bugs, any sky insects, and be really good winter 2:20:05.640 --> 2:20:08.080 spray for you to give them a good start for 2:20:08.200 --> 2:20:08.959 spring flowering. 2:20:09.640 --> 2:20:14.000 That okay, Bob, Oh, thank you Lad. Good on your 2:20:14.040 --> 2:20:16.920 mate Bob from ellen Brook World. Done, Bob, get a Patricia. 2:20:19.280 --> 2:20:22.000 Yes, the previous caller said he'd got on top of 2:20:22.200 --> 2:20:25.520 chili thriaps on his roses, and I've been battling it 2:20:25.680 --> 2:20:28.920 for three years, so perhaps you can know what he 2:20:29.080 --> 2:20:30.240 did to get on top of it. 2:20:30.920 --> 2:20:32.840 I know that that was Rod, wasn't it. 2:20:33.120 --> 2:20:38.200 Rod has a absolutely regimented program I think you mentioned 2:20:38.280 --> 2:20:42.880 it before of spraying every week and alternating the spray 2:20:43.040 --> 2:20:48.000 so using natros, using success, using oils to really keep 2:20:48.080 --> 2:20:52.199 on top of it, and allowing air movement around the roses. 2:20:52.320 --> 2:20:55.480 And it's you can't you can't miss. 2:20:55.360 --> 2:20:57.760 It for a week or you know, in three weeks 2:20:57.800 --> 2:20:59.480 you think I'll fix it, and they just still keep 2:20:59.560 --> 2:20:59.959 coming back. 2:21:00.240 --> 2:21:02.840 So, Patricia, so those brands that get suit of go 2:21:02.920 --> 2:21:06.800 through it, but yates, Success, gneam oil and or natural soap, 2:21:07.280 --> 2:21:09.360 and I think from memory talking to you, so you 2:21:09.440 --> 2:21:11.680 need to get underneath the leafs as well as on top. 2:21:11.760 --> 2:21:13.080 Don't you need to be pretty good drenching. 2:21:13.920 --> 2:21:16.640 Yeah, that's exactly it you can use. And most of 2:21:16.680 --> 2:21:20.880 those are contacts brays because the problem with using anything 2:21:21.560 --> 2:21:23.320 anything more, that's the reason why you have to go 2:21:23.440 --> 2:21:28.600 under the foliage is the thrips don't suck the sap, 2:21:28.879 --> 2:21:31.320 so they don't take the nutrients or they don't take 2:21:31.320 --> 2:21:34.280 anything up by the plant. They only rasp away at 2:21:34.320 --> 2:21:37.119 the outside and rasping away. That's why they're incredibly hard 2:21:37.200 --> 2:21:37.760 to control. 2:21:37.959 --> 2:21:38.160 Yep. 2:21:38.560 --> 2:21:43.200 And I think also you've encouraged making the root system stronger, stronger. 2:21:43.400 --> 2:21:46.640 Yeah, so thick cell walls is what we want to do. 2:21:46.760 --> 2:21:50.440 We want strong stems, we want high potassium softa de 2:21:50.440 --> 2:21:54.160 potash is really important for roses. It only helps, not 2:21:54.280 --> 2:21:58.480 only helps flowering of course, increases and intensifies perfume in 2:21:58.520 --> 2:21:59.680 those perfume varieties. 2:22:00.160 --> 2:22:02.840 All right, thank you, Patricia, thanks for calling. We always 2:22:02.840 --> 2:22:05.000 get a chili thrip call or two, don't we, Sue, Sue, 2:22:05.040 --> 2:22:06.880 well done? Have you got you oam yet? Has it 2:22:06.959 --> 2:22:08.879 arrived in the post or are you having a. 2:22:09.000 --> 2:22:11.840 Party the ceremonies. 2:22:11.879 --> 2:22:15.120 Actually, so all the other awards recipients from Western Australia. 2:22:15.120 --> 2:22:16.800 I think in September sometimes, not sure. 2:22:16.680 --> 2:22:17.080 Of the date. 2:22:17.320 --> 2:22:18.959 Very good, Yeah, how good starting. 2:22:19.280 --> 2:22:20.520 Thank you, very humbling. 2:22:20.600 --> 2:22:22.840 You take Andy, I have to he might be at work. 2:22:25.560 --> 2:22:27.120 I'll see who's around it. 2:22:27.280 --> 2:22:28.040 Ran to family. 2:22:28.240 --> 2:22:30.720 Yeah, there's plenty of family members, aren't there. We're very 2:22:30.760 --> 2:22:32.360 proud of you too. Well done. And if you want 2:22:32.360 --> 2:22:34.760 to go and see Lightsgate, go to King's Park and 2:22:34.800 --> 2:22:36.560 Botanic Gardens. Go to the website and have a look. 2:22:36.600 --> 2:22:39.160 It is fantastic. And if you've if you've ever been 2:22:39.200 --> 2:22:41.320 at one of the concerts in King's Park, it's in 2:22:41.360 --> 2:22:43.600 the same place and it's a it tricked the place 2:22:43.680 --> 2:22:46.440 up really nicely. Sue. Done and chat to you soon. 2:22:46.640 --> 2:22:47.000 Take care. 2:22:47.080 --> 2:22:47.879 Yeah, thank you, Sue. 2:22:47.920 --> 2:22:48.040 We do. 2:22:48.280 --> 2:22:50.280 We're lucky to have her. We'll come back in at 2:22:50.360 --> 2:22:51.760 just a moment. I'm not sure if John has this 2:22:51.879 --> 2:22:54.640 story or not. John Nichols, but you may or may 2:22:54.720 --> 2:22:56.560 not hear blot I'll tell you anyway. It looks like 2:22:56.600 --> 2:23:00.360 a volcano has erupted in Bali and canceled aids and 2:23:00.400 --> 2:23:03.480 flights in and out of Bali. And in and out 2:23:03.520 --> 2:23:05.680 of Perth Airport will bring you some more details. If 2:23:05.760 --> 2:23:08.200 John hasn't got it for you in the news. Next 2:23:08.280 --> 2:23:11.360 to stay listening twenty four minutes to one o'clock. Let's 2:23:11.360 --> 2:23:13.880 take fours and go to our newsroom. Good afternoon at 2:23:13.920 --> 2:23:14.480 John Nichols. 2:23:14.680 --> 2:23:17.440 Thank you, Simon, Good afternoon. The Federal Treasurer says the 2:23:17.480 --> 2:23:20.240 world is facing a perilous moment as he warns that 2:23:20.320 --> 2:23:24.160 global factors may limit the government's policy choices in coming years. 2:23:24.640 --> 2:23:27.520 Jim Charmers has given a major speech shout lining Labour's 2:23:27.600 --> 2:23:30.920 economic priorities for its second term in Parliament. It's promising 2:23:31.040 --> 2:23:35.560 patriotic and progressive reforms. The Public Transport Authorities says it'll 2:23:35.600 --> 2:23:38.440 host a workshop with train drivers, many of whom want 2:23:38.480 --> 2:23:41.760 the new C series trains removed from service until key 2:23:41.879 --> 2:23:45.400 issues including brakes and air conditioning are sorted out. The 2:23:45.480 --> 2:23:49.360 PDA says there are no breaking issues on any Transperth railcars, 2:23:49.680 --> 2:23:51.840 but it will host a workshop in coming weeks to 2:23:51.879 --> 2:23:55.600 work through the driver's concerns. OPTAs has agreed to pay 2:23:55.640 --> 2:23:59.119 a one hundred million dollar fine for selling vulnerable customers 2:23:59.320 --> 2:24:02.840 plans they couldn't afford. The Consumer Watchdog has sued the 2:24:03.000 --> 2:24:08.560 Telecommunications Giants, which has admitted to unconscionable conduct. In tennis, 2:24:08.560 --> 2:24:11.240 Australia's Alexei Poperin has reached the second round of the 2:24:11.320 --> 2:24:14.720 Queen's Club Championship on grass in London, has beaten fellow 2:24:14.720 --> 2:24:18.879 of Australian Alexander Brookch Alex Dminor and Adam Walton both 2:24:19.000 --> 2:24:22.160 lost their matches eighteen degrees at the moment. Showers today 2:24:22.280 --> 2:24:24.760 down to twelve overnight the shower or two and twenty 2:24:24.840 --> 2:24:27.200 one tomorrow. More news at one, Thank you John. 2:24:27.280 --> 2:24:29.280 Some news just to hand which has come into Philippa 2:24:29.440 --> 2:24:31.560 MA in our newsroom and to you guys. There have 2:24:31.720 --> 2:24:34.560 been two flights canceled in and out of Balley, with 2:24:34.680 --> 2:24:38.360 two more delayed as follow So Jet Star JQ one 2:24:38.440 --> 2:24:40.600 hundred and ten was due to depart at six fifty 2:24:40.640 --> 2:24:44.560 that was canceled this morning Transnoosa eight B eighty so 2:24:44.760 --> 2:24:47.280 AB eighty one that's been canceled at a fly tomorrow. 2:24:47.680 --> 2:24:50.160 JQ one O six was meant to go at four 2:24:50.160 --> 2:24:52.880 o'clock the Sava. It's been delayed till seven o'clock and 2:24:53.040 --> 2:24:57.080 JQ won one six departing at fourteen at four forty. 2:24:57.120 --> 2:24:59.640 It's been delayed to nineteen thirty. So John, it's a 2:25:00.120 --> 2:25:03.600 an island on on Flourist, which is east of Bali 2:25:04.280 --> 2:25:07.440 has erupted in a center a ten kilometer high ash tower. 2:25:07.560 --> 2:25:09.640 So that's news just a hand so I know you've 2:25:09.640 --> 2:25:12.040 got a bit more informed. Well our listeners can hear 2:25:12.120 --> 2:25:14.560 that during the course of the day. Absolutely, yeah, well done, 2:25:14.560 --> 2:25:16.280 Thank you John, Thank you, well done. John Nichols. Be 2:25:16.320 --> 2:25:19.640 back tomorrow with Nichols Niche on a Thursday. It's twenty 2:25:19.840 --> 2:25:22.959 one and a half minutes to at one o'clock. If 2:25:22.959 --> 2:25:25.160 you like the phone and you can have you had 2:25:25.200 --> 2:25:27.320 the flu this season? The yeses are twenty four and 2:25:27.400 --> 2:25:30.480 the nose fifty six. We'll speak to Oli in just 2:25:30.560 --> 2:25:32.880 a moment. He's on ob Day number two. That was 2:25:32.920 --> 2:25:37.600 an outside broadcast as our man, Olli Peterson. Sean Lindsay 2:25:37.640 --> 2:25:41.440 joins us from our production area today our executive producer, 2:25:41.480 --> 2:25:43.879 good a mate, you spot of this story today. 2:25:44.120 --> 2:25:47.039 Yes, it's a sad, good afternoon to you, Bowie. It's 2:25:47.080 --> 2:25:50.240 a sad story that's emerging from Donnybrook, one of the 2:25:50.320 --> 2:25:52.119 great locations in Wa. 2:25:52.280 --> 2:25:54.720 Good for apples for apples, bakery. 2:25:54.840 --> 2:25:57.360 It has a good visit to Santae Playground and very 2:25:57.440 --> 2:26:01.680 good playground, but with sad news has come through reported 2:26:01.680 --> 2:26:05.080 by the ABC. In the Southwest of Donnybrook visitors center 2:26:05.600 --> 2:26:08.520 and the station markets are set to close because of 2:26:08.600 --> 2:26:10.880 funding carts. So the local shower budget has come through. 2:26:10.920 --> 2:26:13.280 They obviously have to get things sorted before the new 2:26:13.400 --> 2:26:17.720 financial year and because of the budget restraints, they've decided 2:26:17.760 --> 2:26:20.000 they're going to cut the funding from the groups that 2:26:20.240 --> 2:26:23.480 organize the station markets and also cut funding from the 2:26:23.520 --> 2:26:26.320 visitor center so they will be no longer cost of 2:26:26.440 --> 2:26:27.640 living crisis again. 2:26:27.840 --> 2:26:31.960 Yeah, so the pooral Shore of Donnybrook bailing up cutting 2:26:31.959 --> 2:26:33.760 the service. I think they've got one staff member shaw 2:26:34.280 --> 2:26:37.720 and a dozen volunteers, so that's a shame. There are 2:26:37.800 --> 2:26:40.720 some great visitor centers right through Western Australia. The Albany 2:26:40.760 --> 2:26:45.080 one is unbelievable. The Caravan Ones is terrific as well. 2:26:46.920 --> 2:26:49.200 In Swan Valley there's a fantastic visitor center as well. 2:26:49.240 --> 2:26:51.320 But I wanted to ask you about markets because of 2:26:51.360 --> 2:26:54.040 a few over your way. There's a ripper market at 2:26:54.080 --> 2:26:56.720 near Lake Clamont on a Saturday morning, isn't there so listeners. 2:26:56.720 --> 2:26:59.560 We want to know where the good markets are, the growers' markets, 2:26:59.640 --> 2:27:02.360 fresh produce markets. Can we and can we open it 2:27:02.440 --> 2:27:02.920 up as well? 2:27:03.000 --> 2:27:05.120 Because I did a little bit of dicking and you know, 2:27:05.280 --> 2:27:08.520 some people go in and investigate bits and pieces the government, 2:27:08.600 --> 2:27:10.840 like Caroline Spencers of the world. I look at the 2:27:10.879 --> 2:27:14.040 different markets and there's quite a few different markets around Perth. 2:27:14.080 --> 2:27:16.040 We're not talking just about growers' markets, which are great 2:27:16.080 --> 2:27:18.520 fresh produce which will set you up for the week. 2:27:18.800 --> 2:27:20.560 And there's a good one in Subiaco. There's a good 2:27:20.560 --> 2:27:22.520 one in Clermont that you just mentioned that I know about, 2:27:22.720 --> 2:27:24.680 but I think historically there's a great one. 2:27:24.600 --> 2:27:27.360 In Midland with rippering, caring up, gearing up shops, ripper 2:27:27.360 --> 2:27:30.600 and these are car park markets and car park markets 2:27:30.680 --> 2:27:32.360 people that come in just for the day. 2:27:32.640 --> 2:27:35.200 They bring their fresh produce from wherever, usually you know, 2:27:35.320 --> 2:27:36.199 out towards this one. 2:27:36.160 --> 2:27:37.840 Valley and those sort of places out that way. 2:27:38.360 --> 2:27:41.440 They come in and they sell their plants, they sell 2:27:41.480 --> 2:27:44.959 their vegitables, clothes. They sometimes close as well. And now 2:27:45.040 --> 2:27:48.840 we go into the artisan market territory. We're down south, well, 2:27:48.920 --> 2:27:51.160 I say south to a free away. There's a couple 2:27:51.200 --> 2:27:54.400 of great artisan markets, so that's your secondhand clothes, and 2:27:54.520 --> 2:27:58.680 you'll know people that just love their thrift shopping. I 2:27:58.720 --> 2:28:01.080 think I said that right, you did Chili thrip. I 2:28:01.120 --> 2:28:05.200 get really confused with shopping. They're not interchangeable. And there's 2:28:05.240 --> 2:28:07.280 a few of these different artistan markets which pop off. 2:28:07.480 --> 2:28:10.119 And then we can't forget the food markets, the Scarborough 2:28:10.200 --> 2:28:12.680 food Market, the market, it's amazing. The Hawker market that 2:28:12.760 --> 2:28:15.560 comes to the city of Perth, they're amazing as well. 2:28:16.040 --> 2:28:18.560 And then and then I look back fondly. I spent 2:28:18.600 --> 2:28:21.440 a bit of time pavilion and station street markets in 2:28:21.760 --> 2:28:25.400 in in Subiaci, which no longer exists. In Freemanner they've 2:28:25.440 --> 2:28:28.400 still got probably I dare I say the best market 2:28:28.480 --> 2:28:32.160 in Perth, maybe even w w A the market in Frio. 2:28:32.760 --> 2:28:34.080 I mean, I'm looking at you trying to gain it. No, 2:28:34.320 --> 2:28:36.640 it's got the antique shops and it's got a lot 2:28:36.680 --> 2:28:38.920 of it's got some permanency about it does so that's 2:28:39.280 --> 2:28:40.680 I'll get you there. I think you're right about that. 2:28:41.200 --> 2:28:43.600 So what we want from our list is car park markets, 2:28:43.680 --> 2:28:46.960 artisan markets, fresh produce marks, anything like. We're the good 2:28:47.000 --> 2:28:48.440 markets at the moment, and. 2:28:48.480 --> 2:28:51.560 The Margaret River fresh produce market is one of the 2:28:51.680 --> 2:28:54.240 great markets as well, and it's a bit off the obviously, 2:28:54.320 --> 2:28:57.240 bit off the beaten track, drive a few hours to 2:28:57.320 --> 2:28:57.600 get there. 2:28:57.680 --> 2:28:59.600 So most of these are said, I think Palmira's got 2:28:59.600 --> 2:29:02.000 a good market. It does, yes, memory yes, And I 2:29:02.120 --> 2:29:03.920 think there's one more that I'm going to hold back, 2:29:04.000 --> 2:29:06.000 which I reckons that ripprid. It's a car park market 2:29:06.800 --> 2:29:10.080 and it's got clothes. I saw Steve Butler by a 2:29:10.080 --> 2:29:12.400 scoop net, a crab scoop net at it. I did, Yeah, 2:29:13.000 --> 2:29:15.640 best day of his life. Five bucks for a scoop net. 2:29:15.680 --> 2:29:18.640 What does the scoop net? Five dollars? Five dollars? Yeah? 2:29:19.080 --> 2:29:20.119 So happy was he wearing? 2:29:20.240 --> 2:29:20.560 What was he? 2:29:20.760 --> 2:29:21.120 Was he wearing? 2:29:21.400 --> 2:29:23.920 Steve Butler? Was he Steve not John Butler? I thought 2:29:24.040 --> 2:29:26.440 it John Butler's and John Steve. Steve lives in Palmyras, 2:29:26.440 --> 2:29:29.879 you know, powerhouse, so he's two very different Butlers, aren't 2:29:29.879 --> 2:29:34.080 They get you Butler? But the Inglewood night markets are 2:29:34.160 --> 2:29:34.560 very good. 2:29:35.160 --> 2:29:37.039 There's a Perth up market, so the u W way 2:29:37.640 --> 2:29:39.760 do it about three or four times a year, so 2:29:39.879 --> 2:29:43.080 they invite people to artisan staff niche markets. So that's 2:29:43.240 --> 2:29:45.160 the Perth Up market, which is very good. So there's 2:29:45.200 --> 2:29:47.960 plenty around. Yeah, it's sill listen think brilliant mate. 2:29:48.440 --> 2:29:50.959 But sadly where we started is the donny Brook Visitor 2:29:51.040 --> 2:29:54.040 Center and their station markets are closing down unless the 2:29:54.080 --> 2:29:55.160 show I can come up with some more duck. 2:29:55.240 --> 2:29:57.360 It was only the open it only opened once every 2:29:57.480 --> 2:30:01.160 three Saturdays. Every third Saturday, Bok markets would open up 2:30:01.240 --> 2:30:02.960 and you can bring your stool and your produce and 2:30:03.000 --> 2:30:03.920 they just don't have the funding. 2:30:04.000 --> 2:30:06.480 Yeah, but those local shires, as you know, they do 2:30:06.600 --> 2:30:08.760 struggle a little bit. Yeah, smell of an Aarli rag stuff. 2:30:08.959 --> 2:30:12.119 She's mate, brilliantly done a Shawan Lindsay, our executive producer 2:30:12.200 --> 2:30:14.360 here at Perth today. Wear are the good markets, the 2:30:14.440 --> 2:30:17.959 car park markets, the fresh produce ones. Some of them 2:30:18.000 --> 2:30:21.440 run once a week, someone run every fortnite and some 2:30:21.520 --> 2:30:23.280 of them are very popular. Carry ups a big one 2:30:23.840 --> 2:30:26.959 out my way. There's another big one south of the river. 2:30:27.200 --> 2:30:29.080 It's on one of the major highways one double three 2:30:29.160 --> 2:30:32.320 eighty two. It's a cracker. The markets, where are they? 2:30:32.440 --> 2:30:34.120 Where do you like going? Why do you like and 2:30:34.800 --> 2:30:36.760 what do you wear? What do you buy there? One 2:30:36.800 --> 2:30:41.880 double three eighty two sixteen to one allor notes. How 2:30:41.959 --> 2:30:44.840 good Max you know, might have been in eighties ninety stuff? 2:30:44.879 --> 2:30:45.360 Do you no? 2:30:45.480 --> 2:30:47.280 I quite like it, all of them. How old are you? 2:30:47.879 --> 2:30:50.680 Twenty two? I turned this year, so you're twenty one now? 2:30:51.000 --> 2:30:51.200 Yeah? 2:30:51.200 --> 2:30:53.760 I turned twenty two in March. Yes, gone, god, twenty two? 2:30:53.879 --> 2:30:54.039 Yeah? 2:30:54.040 --> 2:30:57.840 Okay, wow, well done? Do you have Have you had 2:30:57.879 --> 2:30:59.800 the flu this year? Jackoe says he's got the flu? 2:30:59.840 --> 2:31:03.680 Now out the markets, the good markets around the joint, 2:31:03.720 --> 2:31:06.959 where are they? So the station markets in Donnybrook are closing, 2:31:07.000 --> 2:31:09.240 which is a great shame. And so's a visitor center. 2:31:09.680 --> 2:31:13.440 Well the shore of donning Brook. The bailing up can't 2:31:13.480 --> 2:31:15.120 afford to keep the visitor center, which is a bit 2:31:15.160 --> 2:31:16.760 of a shame. But we're asking you today, where are 2:31:17.240 --> 2:31:18.240 the good markets today? 2:31:18.320 --> 2:31:20.720 Aaron Simon? 2:31:20.879 --> 2:31:24.200 Yeah, there's markets held Simon. But there's markets held every 2:31:24.240 --> 2:31:28.600 Sunday morning, and Rockingham held by the Apex Club. Yeah 2:31:28.680 --> 2:31:33.760 right in the yeah car park behind Kent Street there. Yeah, 2:31:33.840 --> 2:31:37.720 so dollar coin donation. But it's more like a car 2:31:37.879 --> 2:31:40.160 boot type style, if you know what I mean. A 2:31:40.600 --> 2:31:43.400 bit of brick and brack and people's junk want to sell. 2:31:43.480 --> 2:31:46.920 But there's street and edgies and everything there, so every 2:31:46.959 --> 2:31:47.680 Sunday morning. 2:31:47.800 --> 2:31:48.760 That one's massive, isn't it. 2:31:49.879 --> 2:31:51.160 Yeah, Yeah, that's great. 2:31:51.280 --> 2:31:54.039 Yeah, it's huge, loads of cars. I've sort of often 2:31:54.120 --> 2:31:56.760 got a Rocco with the family on a Sunday, Mate, 2:31:56.800 --> 2:31:59.080 and I see heaps of people there, so yeah, that's 2:31:59.480 --> 2:32:01.640 the other stary, isn't the car park marks? You get clothes, 2:32:01.720 --> 2:32:05.160 get plants, all sorts of stuff and as you say, 2:32:05.240 --> 2:32:08.600 brick a brack, what are you bought there? 2:32:08.640 --> 2:32:08.840 Mate? 2:32:10.320 --> 2:32:11.000 Is Aaron still there? 2:32:11.040 --> 2:32:11.280 Max? 2:32:11.400 --> 2:32:15.360 Aaron's gone? Aaron's mysteriously disappeared. Across the road from the 2:32:16.720 --> 2:32:20.000 leisure in. I think it's called the pub one double 2:32:20.040 --> 2:32:22.600 three eight eighty two. Where are the good markets? Olie 2:32:22.600 --> 2:32:25.800 Peterson joins us he's again on location today. He loves 2:32:25.840 --> 2:32:27.120 an outside Broadcastle or. 2:32:27.120 --> 2:32:29.520 Oliver tell you and I reckon, I'm looking at a 2:32:29.560 --> 2:32:34.280 good market, Simon. It's called the VB the Sheds Sandwiches 2:32:34.320 --> 2:32:37.000 in between the camfield and off the stadium. It looks 2:32:37.080 --> 2:32:40.119 like a market and I think it's got your name 2:32:40.160 --> 2:32:40.320 on it. 2:32:42.040 --> 2:32:42.760 That's what do you mean? 2:32:44.480 --> 2:32:46.879 I just think you know it's a sunny afternoon. You're 2:32:47.040 --> 2:32:48.600 obviouly saying you're about to knock off for the day. 2:32:48.640 --> 2:32:52.160 It's a sunny afternoon. You're in Birdswood. The rain stopped 2:32:52.160 --> 2:32:54.200 and there's vbs to be poored. 2:32:54.320 --> 2:33:02.600 Simon, Yes, well, good drink responsibly, Oliver John the Manning markets. 2:33:02.600 --> 2:33:06.480 That's come in from Mary Manning Road Bentley, the Melville 2:33:06.480 --> 2:33:10.320 markets on a Sunday, says Mike and Darren and Dave. 2:33:11.520 --> 2:33:13.400 And yeah that was one. That's that's a rip up 2:33:13.400 --> 2:33:15.960 that one of the Melville Plaza. There they've got a 2:33:16.080 --> 2:33:19.240 they've got a Dan Murphy's there. Here's that theme again 2:33:19.920 --> 2:33:21.960 and there's a big there's a big billboard of Dan 2:33:22.080 --> 2:33:23.640 Murphy and I reckon. You can see it from space, 2:33:24.280 --> 2:33:26.240 you can see it from you can see it from 2:33:26.280 --> 2:33:29.320 the hills. It's the biggest, biggest billboard of Dan Murphy 2:33:29.360 --> 2:33:32.080 in the area. Alberdy markets are the best, is Dave 2:33:32.120 --> 2:33:35.400 o Colum Mounder Farmer Markets on Sunday at greats from 2:33:35.480 --> 2:33:38.880 Natalie Natalie Teasing market at Colum on the first start 2:33:38.920 --> 2:33:42.440 of every month. Bumbray is good. One in Banner's there's 2:33:42.680 --> 2:33:45.000 some Ciresis and killed as good as well. So oh yeah, 2:33:45.200 --> 2:33:46.440 you don't mind a market to your. 2:33:46.440 --> 2:33:48.600 Car park market Now, I love a market, love it 2:33:48.640 --> 2:33:50.680 and I love a fresh food market on a Saturday morning, 2:33:50.720 --> 2:33:52.400 like you go to some of the primary schools and 2:33:52.520 --> 2:33:55.080 that's that's good fun. There's a brilliant in sub good 2:33:55.080 --> 2:33:57.720 one in Mount Claremont that you can get to and dark. 2:33:57.720 --> 2:33:59.680 It's great, good, good part of the fabric at our 2:33:59.720 --> 2:34:00.480 commun Simon. 2:34:00.640 --> 2:34:02.360 I think so Oliver. And if you like me and 2:34:02.400 --> 2:34:04.120 you're looking for free stuff to do with your kids, 2:34:04.840 --> 2:34:06.640 it's a good way to a good way to spend 2:34:06.680 --> 2:34:08.640 a couple of hours. Now, what do you have for 2:34:08.800 --> 2:34:10.560 us this afternoon, Well. 2:34:10.480 --> 2:34:13.360 Bowie, I am broadcasting live in the six pr Jco 2:34:13.480 --> 2:34:17.400 Caravanland Mobile Studio opposite Stand twelve. So if you're catching 2:34:17.440 --> 2:34:20.040 the six five four from Basindin Station to up the 2:34:20.080 --> 2:34:23.120 stadium tonight for New South Wales and Queensland, you can 2:34:23.160 --> 2:34:25.160 come on down and say get a where sandwich. Between 2:34:25.200 --> 2:34:28.360 the camfield and up the stadium. I'll be presenting Perth 2:34:28.400 --> 2:34:30.680 Live till five and then Marketings will join you for 2:34:30.720 --> 2:34:33.520 the wide world of sports from five until six. Your 2:34:33.560 --> 2:34:35.680 mate Jason Feederby will be joining us, so we'll be 2:34:35.720 --> 2:34:38.680 answering all your personal finance questions. Trent nikolicch you'll be 2:34:38.760 --> 2:34:41.960 on the show Austrata's number one motoringexpert from Drive dot 2:34:42.040 --> 2:34:46.160 com dot Au and we ask you who or what 2:34:46.760 --> 2:34:51.000 is the world's best airline. And there's some bit of 2:34:51.040 --> 2:34:54.120 aviation years around, Simon, and we're about to I know 2:34:54.240 --> 2:34:56.440 that there was the Perth Airport sale frenzy that the 2:34:56.520 --> 2:34:58.640 boys were talking about earlier today, but we're also about 2:34:58.640 --> 2:35:01.000 to get a host of extra airlines and some that 2:35:01.040 --> 2:35:04.320 already operate into w A putting on additional flights into 2:35:04.560 --> 2:35:07.640 a number of other international destinations. So exciting time to 2:35:07.800 --> 2:35:10.840 aviation out and into our great city. 2:35:11.280 --> 2:35:14.000 Ollie, I don't I can't imagine you have any more 2:35:14.160 --> 2:35:17.199 Rugby League luminaries on today because you had every single 2:35:17.240 --> 2:35:18.840 one in the world on yesterday. 2:35:19.840 --> 2:35:21.160 How be a good lineup? 2:35:21.240 --> 2:35:23.959 Wasn't a Piggie Liddell and it was? It was did 2:35:24.000 --> 2:35:26.480 a great job yesterday. He's just hyping it up. Good 2:35:26.520 --> 2:35:29.720 to see our network keep behind the state of Origin. 2:35:31.760 --> 2:35:33.960 Yes, and you'll hear it tonight on six PR the 2:35:34.040 --> 2:35:37.360 Continuous Call to Mark Levy and Darryl Broman and Mark 2:35:37.440 --> 2:35:40.080 Riddell Mark Guy Albert will be on six PR after 2:35:40.080 --> 2:35:42.240 the Wide World of Sports Bring your Origin play by 2:35:42.320 --> 2:35:43.200 play now. 2:35:43.800 --> 2:35:46.280 I spoke to Connor McGovern yesterday and he turned into 2:35:46.280 --> 2:35:49.040 a rugby league player. What we were listening to him 2:35:49.040 --> 2:35:51.000 was that gun, I love I love me rugby league 2:35:51.000 --> 2:35:54.280 and me tracksuit pants. His voice changed, give me, give 2:35:54.360 --> 2:35:55.760 me some of your best Darryl. 2:35:56.959 --> 2:35:58.920 So some mom with is Darryl rickets tonight. What you're 2:35:58.920 --> 2:36:00.800 going to see here? Up to start and righted. Luai 2:36:00.959 --> 2:36:03.680 gets it to Killery, He goes on the outside, gets 2:36:03.680 --> 2:36:04.879 her till l Trell Betchell. 2:36:05.200 --> 2:36:07.640 Mitchell goes over the hammer and it's four zipp to 2:36:07.800 --> 2:36:11.280 New South Wales, kick to come and Trell is on fire. 2:36:11.400 --> 2:36:13.160 Simon Boment, I'll be very happy about that. As a 2:36:13.200 --> 2:36:16.440 South Sydney Rabinos Fountain, I may enjoy. 2:36:17.080 --> 2:36:20.280 That was better than I could have possibly expected. Enjoy mate. 2:36:20.320 --> 2:36:24.480 We'll be listening this afternoon, you see you, mate. So 2:36:24.600 --> 2:36:26.440 we'll go back to where we started today. The coverage 2:36:27.200 --> 2:36:29.120 from the paper they just don't want it here. They 2:36:29.120 --> 2:36:31.920 don't want the sport here. And that's that's a shame, 2:36:31.959 --> 2:36:34.200 because plenty people go tonight, plenty of Australia will watch, 2:36:34.240 --> 2:36:36.280 plenty of w a will watch. Got room for one 2:36:36.320 --> 2:36:39.240 more sport, don't we particularly if the Eagles an't going 2:36:39.280 --> 2:36:42.240 to win another game for a couple of years. Jeff, 2:36:42.280 --> 2:36:43.120 we're the best markets. 2:36:44.160 --> 2:36:45.760 Ah, Hi, Simon, how are you good? 2:36:45.800 --> 2:36:46.000 Mate? 2:36:46.920 --> 2:36:51.960 There's a nice market behind the Bayswater Library on King 2:36:52.000 --> 2:36:55.520 Wyndham Street that's usually on a Monday night. And there's 2:36:55.520 --> 2:37:00.640 a couple there that sell honey. They used their own 2:37:00.720 --> 2:37:03.520 honey and it's just so divine. It's just you just 2:37:03.640 --> 2:37:07.480 can't beat it. And yeah, there's everything there but the honey. 2:37:07.560 --> 2:37:08.560 There's just fantastic. 2:37:08.920 --> 2:37:10.920 Yeah, as they said in the Blues, Brother's mate, they've 2:37:10.920 --> 2:37:13.000 got everything in here. Thanks Jeff good Man. Always good 2:37:13.000 --> 2:37:17.119 to hear from you. Hello Sam, Hey mate. 2:37:16.959 --> 2:37:19.759 You should tell that bloke come and see the honeys. 2:37:19.560 --> 2:37:20.640 In the south of the River. 2:37:21.240 --> 2:37:22.160 Yeah. What do you got for us? 2:37:23.360 --> 2:37:23.520 Well? 2:37:23.680 --> 2:37:28.640 The Maning Markets mate, that's next to the library. 2:37:28.840 --> 2:37:29.160 I don't know. 2:37:29.680 --> 2:37:30.600 You don't come over to. 2:37:30.680 --> 2:37:34.600 The south part of town, is all that's up? 2:37:34.720 --> 2:37:38.000 Mate? You don't come over, dude, I do, mate, you 2:37:38.080 --> 2:37:42.920 know I do. My mom lives south Sam, But we 2:37:43.000 --> 2:37:43.440 were friends. 2:37:43.480 --> 2:37:43.720 Sam. 2:37:44.480 --> 2:37:49.760 The Manning Markets they're on Manning Road, Bentley, next to 2:37:49.800 --> 2:37:52.039 the library. Yeah yeah, next to the library. All right, Sam, 2:37:52.120 --> 2:37:54.400 good on you mate, thank you. I used to go 2:37:54.440 --> 2:37:56.760 to the Midland markets. Now it's gone, how very says 2:37:56.879 --> 2:38:00.840 is Trina in Mayland? Solo Trina that he said. Dave says, 2:38:00.920 --> 2:38:02.600 when it comes to farmer's market, the one I visit 2:38:02.680 --> 2:38:05.520 most is the Sterling farmers Market. Those marks at the 2:38:05.560 --> 2:38:08.120 Sterling City Council car park from seven am to eleven 2:38:08.200 --> 2:38:10.680 thirty on a Sunday morning. Yeah, Dave, that's an absolute ripper, 2:38:10.680 --> 2:38:13.240 isn't it that one is? There's some beauties. There's some 2:38:13.320 --> 2:38:19.920 rippers around the place. Dave reckons, we don't. David says 2:38:19.920 --> 2:38:22.440 this amusing listed commentary on how good Perth local markets are. 2:38:22.520 --> 2:38:24.640 Perth is very sterile like support for the quality of 2:38:24.640 --> 2:38:28.279 business in space or decent central location. Bull Dust, David, 2:38:28.520 --> 2:38:32.080 Absolute bull dust are everywhere. Julie says. Sterling's Farmer's marks 2:38:32.080 --> 2:38:34.720 every Sunday morning Cedric Street car Park sponsor by Rotary 2:38:35.040 --> 2:38:40.240 Club of carn Up. Thanks Jules, thank you. It's a 2:38:40.320 --> 2:38:43.560 really nice market. Behind the Eiffel Tower in Paris. Fout 2:38:43.600 --> 2:38:46.360 it we're there two weeks ago. Is magnificent. Thanks mate. 2:38:46.840 --> 2:38:49.039 Thank you. Darren, look at you, look at you? Five 2:38:49.120 --> 2:38:52.160 to one back in a second. Natalie says Kingsway Marcus 2:38:52.200 --> 2:38:54.920 in Natalie every Saturday morning is brilliant. Thanks Natalie. Always 2:38:54.959 --> 2:39:00.200 good to hear from you. Good affairs, Yes votes, thank 2:39:00.240 --> 2:39:01.080 you very generous. 2:39:02.160 --> 2:39:05.000 Two things I learned today, Simon, the Many markets are 2:39:05.000 --> 2:39:08.640 next to our library and the Kenning Bear Market. 2:39:09.120 --> 2:39:10.840 The Kenny Bear Markets are very good. 2:39:11.280 --> 2:39:13.000 But you've got to get Sam back on the c 2:39:13.400 --> 2:39:14.560 He's the funniest. 2:39:14.160 --> 2:39:15.200 Blake I've in the month. 2:39:15.400 --> 2:39:17.080 Sam is King getting back on. 2:39:19.800 --> 2:39:29.840 Yeah, mate, bad. I go south the riverfes every three days. 2:39:29.879 --> 2:39:36.080 Ago South River. Oh that's beautiful, thanks mate, Thanks, Yeah, 2:39:36.080 --> 2:39:38.800 who knew the Manning markets are next to the library. 2:39:39.760 --> 2:39:42.280 Thanks Fairs World answer mate. Our caller of the day 2:39:42.320 --> 2:39:46.280 today is Greg. Greg was hospitalized because of the flu. Greg, 2:39:46.320 --> 2:39:47.840 thanks for funny and hope you're getting better mate. I 2:39:47.879 --> 2:39:51.080 believe you're back at work today. Greg. As a consolation, 2:39:51.240 --> 2:39:53.040 a couple of tickets to a double pass to go 2:39:53.080 --> 2:39:56.039 and see the Terra Cotta Warriors, the Chinese Warriors when 2:39:56.080 --> 2:39:59.240 that bullbard it the WA Museum from during the twenty 2:39:59.280 --> 2:40:03.480 eighth through the febr Good on your fair Fez. You're 2:40:03.480 --> 2:40:05.199 a funny man. I hope you enjoy the origin tonight. 2:40:05.280 --> 2:40:07.520 Have look at it on the nine network, or listen 2:40:07.560 --> 2:40:09.440 to it here on six PR. It should be unreal. 2:40:09.760 --> 2:40:11.440 Have you had the flu this season? The yeses are 2:40:11.480 --> 2:40:14.760 twenty nine, then those are sixty seven. Thanks for listening. 2:40:14.840 --> 2:40:17.240 In Oli you Peterson up next. He's on Fire OB 2:40:17.560 --> 2:40:19.760 two in two days. See you tomorrow at nine