Speaker 1: Nine podcasts.
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Speaker 3: Dicky Dicky Die, we ad that Enrich. You're in a
Speaker 3: weird mood today. I don't feel quite I feel I
Speaker 3: had a really good sleep last night, which is rare
Speaker 3: for me, and so I feel quiet. And I just
Speaker 3: did have a coffee and I don't usually have a
Speaker 3: coffee after midday. It's so strange to see you so positive,
Speaker 3: because I'm not gonna lie. You have been a Debbie mcdowney.
Speaker 3: You know you've been a Debbie mcdown.
Speaker 1: I've been actually quite good the past couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: That's quite positive.
Speaker 3: No, you're always down on yourself, but I feel like
Speaker 3: I've been better in terms of other.
Speaker 1: I don't know anyway.
Speaker 3: No, you've got to understand that when you're down on yourself,
Speaker 3: it brings others down. So you're not not as much
Speaker 3: as you. I really am not as negative as Do.
Speaker 1: You notice that? Yeah, okay, I don't notice that. Okay, whatever.
Speaker 4: Anyway, speaking of negative things today, we want to discuss
Speaker 4: something that we have both been doing for a while now.
Speaker 3: We originally thought this was a bit of a non issue,
Speaker 3: a bit of a lighthearted situation, but as recently, we
Speaker 3: are now realizing it is quite a serious problem that.
Speaker 1: We both have, and that is binge shopping.
Speaker 3: So what we're trying to do this week is identify,
Speaker 3: work through, and ultimately curb our binge shopping spreeze, which
Speaker 3: is going to be a lot harder than we initially
Speaker 3: hoped for an anticipated Well, I genuinely feel like when
Speaker 3: people listen to this, they're probably gonna laugh a little
Speaker 3: bit and be like, oh, you just love our shopping spree.
Speaker 1: You know who doesn't.
Speaker 3: But when we have done some research on this, because
Speaker 3: I recently had quite a significant episode of this episode
Speaker 3: and delved a bit further into my behaviors and then
Speaker 3: the feelings that resulted from it, it clicked for me
Speaker 3: that this is actually more than just a love of shopping,
Speaker 3: because I actually don't love shops neither.
Speaker 1: Do you know what?
Speaker 3: That's an Epiphan actually don't like shopping, especially when I
Speaker 3: feel really crap about my body.
Speaker 1: Same but yet the crapper I feel, the more I.
Speaker 3: Correct So it's a compulsive shopping disorder or shopping addiction,
Speaker 3: otherwise known as I don't know if I'm saying this correctly.
Speaker 1: One omnia Right now.
Speaker 3: Can I just also state before you give us proper definitions,
Speaker 3: no doubt you have seen them, sooked them, sort them. Ah,
Speaker 3: we were like this before the block. We've been like
Speaker 3: this for long. So it's not that we've come into
Speaker 3: a little bit of money and been like, well, make
Speaker 3: it rain. We've always made it rain, even when we
Speaker 3: haven't had anything to make it rain with.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, and we just make it work.
Speaker 3: And this topic is extremely timely for us, especially because
Speaker 3: this morning three shoe boxes landed in our mail room.
Speaker 3: And that's because I purchased three pairs of ankle boots
Speaker 3: from the same store in a forty percent of sale.
Speaker 3: One pairs black, one is tan, and one is cream.
Speaker 3: So at least they're different colors. You know, I could
Speaker 3: have got the same color in different shapes.
Speaker 1: Do I have other boots? Yes? Do I have a
Speaker 1: lot of other boots? Yes, they're all Gooby. They're all
Speaker 1: Gooby Live tells me they're too Goooby. Did I need
Speaker 1: new ones?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: In my opinion, yes, Did I did I get them
Speaker 1: all anyway? Indeed I did. I did enable that as well.
Speaker 3: I did enable that because all the rest of yours
Speaker 3: are Slugooby and they're like, no word of the light,
Speaker 3: I reckon fifteen.
Speaker 1: I think you had when you're at school, to be
Speaker 1: honest with you.
Speaker 3: Well, so then why do I have a binge shopping addiction?
Speaker 3: If I have heaps of old pairs, you hoard, I hoarde,
Speaker 3: and I've been shop anyway. We can will get it.
Speaker 3: We will get into that. But also no one will
Speaker 3: be surprised.
Speaker 1: Then why we.
Speaker 3: Took thirteen suitcases to the block. It's all making sense
Speaker 3: adding up. Oh, there's so many things in this chat
Speaker 3: that are going to kind of bring two and two
Speaker 3: together for us.
Speaker 1: All right, So what's oniomania? Okay?
Speaker 5: So this is basically a behavior behavior rule that is
Speaker 5: a tough word health condition characterized by an uncontrollable urge
Speaker 5: to shop despite negative consequences.
Speaker 3: It is an unrestrained and often excessive indulgent characterized by
Speaker 3: symptoms such as excessive shopping behaviors and thoughts about shopping.
Speaker 3: Such thoughts and behaviors generate considerable distress and impairment, And
Speaker 3: it's the compulsive need to buy items, many of which
Speaker 3: are not necessary or needed. Oh my god, god, I
Speaker 3: truly tick every one of those mots. My sight says
Speaker 3: to me, do you need it or do you want it?
Speaker 3: And I never ever need it. I reckon ninety percent
Speaker 3: of the time that I shop, I do not need
Speaker 3: it because when you look at how we live and
Speaker 3: our lifestyle and what we have, we do not need anything.
Speaker 1: But do you know what I think?
Speaker 3: And this is another little epiphany I'm having as I
Speaker 3: seek here. We don't have other priorities, as in, we
Speaker 3: don't have children to raise, so the only need is
Speaker 3: our own selves and our own wants. And now my
Speaker 3: need is my want, and we don't have assets, we
Speaker 3: don't have mortgage. We essentially I'm not saving for anything.
Speaker 3: There's nothing that I necessarily want, like a new car
Speaker 3: or a house or anything like that.
Speaker 1: So for me, it's like that's what I spend my
Speaker 1: money on.
Speaker 3: We're not living for the future. And this is quite
Speaker 3: disturbing because our mum said to us the.
Speaker 1: Other day I shouldn't love.
Speaker 3: She's like, I need you to put together some sort
Speaker 3: of will in case anything happens to either of you.
Speaker 3: Now I was like, Mum, please tell me what I
Speaker 3: put in my will. Do you want my three new
Speaker 3: pairs of ankle boots, because that's all I've got to
Speaker 3: offer you most seriously, I mean, to be fair, the
Speaker 3: one thing investment that I made before the block, I
Speaker 3: saved up all my money and I got a car.
Speaker 1: But that's I mean, and I'm.
Speaker 3: Lucky to have a car, great, amazing, But like, we
Speaker 3: don't invest in anything, we don't try and save for anything,
Speaker 3: we don't own anything, and I think that's actually to
Speaker 3: our detriment, and that's fueling this spin shopping because we
Speaker 3: don't have mortgage repayments. If we did, we physically wouldn't
Speaker 3: be able to know you would actually hold yourself back.
Speaker 3: So I wanted to also just see when does it
Speaker 3: cross the line into compulsive shopping from sort of normal
Speaker 3: shopping habits. So there's certain things like yeah, buying things
Speaker 3: that are not needed, sometimes.
Speaker 1: In multiple.
Speaker 3: Spending more than a person can afford, hiding shopping, or
Speaker 3: the amount spent, losing control during shopping sprees. And also
Speaker 3: I find for me, it actually has nothing to do
Speaker 3: with how much money is spent. It's rather the extent
Speaker 3: of the preoccupation, level of personal distress and the development
Speaker 3: of adverse consequences and character ristics.
Speaker 1: Of the condition.
Speaker 3: So for me, that's like for me, that's what it is.
Speaker 3: I don't understand what you just said. Well, it's basically,
Speaker 3: it's not about the money being spent. It's the reactions
Speaker 3: that occur or the behaviors and the results that occur
Speaker 3: from the actual spending within yourself. Yes, okay, Can I
Speaker 3: just say a big one there for me is hiding.
Speaker 3: You hide stuff from me. I've hidden stuff from you,
Speaker 3: And I tell you what. Growing up, we've touched on
Speaker 3: this before. We had to hide so much from our
Speaker 3: dad because he grew up with no money and he's
Speaker 3: very He lives as if tomorrow he's going to lose
Speaker 3: everything really hard. And he also lives for us, live
Speaker 3: like he wants us to have the most amazing life,
Speaker 3: which is why he doesn't want to spend money on himself.
Speaker 1: Poor Dad and his calipers. But he married the wrong woman,
Speaker 1: I tell you that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think Mum's half the reason. I will say
Speaker 3: why we are like we are because she throws cautions
Speaker 3: caution to the wind a little bit. But what we
Speaker 3: would do is if we knew we'd bump into Dad
Speaker 3: when we got home from a shopping spree, we would
Speaker 3: carry around the red pen with us and we would
Speaker 3: get the tags and cross out the prices and put
Speaker 3: like ninety percent off.
Speaker 1: This wasn't two hundred dollars, it was you know.
Speaker 3: And he is and thank god Dad doesn't listen to
Speaker 3: our podcast, but he is so.
Speaker 1: Daft, and he would believe it would be like we've had.
Speaker 3: That jump over sixteen years, like mom still does. We'll say,
Speaker 3: is that you and Mom would be like, oh, don't
Speaker 3: be ridiculous, I've had it for years.
Speaker 1: He's like, Okay, I didn't. Really. Poor guy probably thinks
Speaker 1: he's going crazy. We're making it and then gas lights to.
Speaker 3: Be like, how dare you not remember that I had
Speaker 3: his top for sixteen years even though.
Speaker 1: I bought it today. Oh my god, that's awful. But
Speaker 1: I would totally do that as if I had a partner. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a bit cautious.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well but men. Sorry.
Speaker 3: As a whole, I'm generalizing that they don't really understand
Speaker 3: how much things cost.
Speaker 1: Or the amount of times that we make up how
Speaker 1: much this is costible.
Speaker 3: It's like so ridiculous, like to the point of if
Speaker 3: something costs five thousand dollars, we would say it's one
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 1: And he wouldn't know.
Speaker 3: So can I just also say that Dad's favorite store,
Speaker 3: just for context, here is Rivers going into liquidation. It's
Speaker 3: going into liquidation because they sell items for like fifty cents.
Speaker 1: It loves Rivers.
Speaker 3: It actually costs more than manufacturing than they sell it for.
Speaker 3: So true, But like I can't tell you. You take
Speaker 3: one look at this man and you're just like his
Speaker 3: head to Rivers. He loves a river's bargain and he
Speaker 3: actually he gets anxious when we buy him more expensive.
Speaker 1: Yes, he doesn't like, he doesn't love it.
Speaker 3: His sphinx to tightens and he's like, how like, I
Speaker 3: hope he didn't spend too much on this anyway?
Speaker 1: Like the hiding is it? The hiding is a really
Speaker 1: big isn't it?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Well, do we even hide from each other? I know
Speaker 3: we do, And there's something nqi if we both have
Speaker 3: the same problem, but we both know because like truly and.
Speaker 1: Honestly, who gives a shit? We're like thirty forty year
Speaker 1: old woman.
Speaker 3: But can I say you make me feel bad about
Speaker 3: my shopping habits you?
Speaker 1: I do enable mindset.
Speaker 3: I think we need to meet someone in the middle
Speaker 3: to make me feel more guilty and I need to.
Speaker 1: Enable yours to make myself feel better.
Speaker 3: I do that, and I think you bring me down
Speaker 3: because it's tiny. It's like you're talking to yourself by
Speaker 3: yelling at me.
Speaker 1: Correct for Overspender, Correct, this is exactly right.
Speaker 3: So it's often linked to underlying mental health conditions like anxiety, depression,
Speaker 3: or though self esteem, or attempts to cope with stress.
Speaker 1: Tickety t did thea tickety bloody boom.
Speaker 3: But I just want to quickly touch on before we
Speaker 3: get into where we think we fall. There's another form
Speaker 3: of shopping, which is impulsive shopping.
Speaker 1: So I touched on the compulsive.
Speaker 3: This is the impulsive, so buying items you weren't planning
Speaker 3: to purchase. This happens to most people on occasion and
Speaker 3: can be harmless. There's feelings of instant gratification after unplanned purchases,
Speaker 3: inspired by a can't miss sale or suddenly coming across
Speaker 3: covetable items that are too tempting to pass up. Now
Speaker 3: some reasons people make impulsive or compulsive purchases.
Speaker 1: They feel the need to.
Speaker 3: Purchase items that are on sale and the deal is
Speaker 3: too good to pass up, and wawe, this is you
Speaker 3: in headlights. They may feel the need to have extra
Speaker 3: items on hand. For example, you can never have too
Speaker 3: much toilet paper. That was literally literally during the week.
Speaker 3: I literally did a post a little while ago saying
Speaker 3: that I see half price toilet paper and I have
Speaker 3: to buy it, so I have got I can't even
Speaker 3: fit the amount of toilet paper I have in my
Speaker 3: bathroom cupboards.
Speaker 1: It's just there's toilet paper bleeding out everywhere.
Speaker 3: So I will say, we have an ida that's literally
Speaker 3: in the bottom of our building that we could just
Speaker 3: jog down to within thirty seconds and buy some more urgently.
Speaker 1: Needed to know what live.
Speaker 3: I feel like the toilet paper was a relatable thing.
Speaker 3: A lot of people DMed us and said they're the
Speaker 3: same since COVID because there was a shortage and so
Speaker 3: you must simply buy. You must buy bye bye the
Speaker 3: toilet paper. Imagine if you're caught without something to wipe,
Speaker 3: you'r a nurse.
Speaker 1: But like jump in the shower. That's what I would
Speaker 1: always say.
Speaker 3: I found it weird during COVID when when that was
Speaker 3: the thing that people sort of bin shopped, because I'm like,
Speaker 3: everyone's just at home.
Speaker 1: If you really got stuck jump in the show and
Speaker 1: wipe the shill your asshole, or just use a.
Speaker 3: Sock and junk it in the wash, or just use
Speaker 3: your hand, like seriously, just do a clean break and
Speaker 3: then just do a little pat to check there's no.
Speaker 1: Dingleberries anyway, which category do you reckon? You fall into? Well,
Speaker 1: here's the thing.
Speaker 3: The compulsive shopping is described as involving a significant disruption
Speaker 3: to daily life, causing emotional and financial harm.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's me. I don't think i'm compulsive
Speaker 1: as you're impulsive.
Speaker 3: I think I'm impulsive, but I think I'm probably a
Speaker 3: really strong impulsive because I would never spend like we
Speaker 3: don't have credit cards. I want to say that God,
Speaker 3: so we don't spend beyond our means. And I think
Speaker 3: if I had a child to provide for, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: be taking away my child's money to buy things. It's
Speaker 3: just because I can that I do. And yes I
Speaker 3: should be saving it to put towards a house or whatever,
Speaker 3: but I just ain't. So I would like to think
Speaker 3: that if I needed to, I could pull back. And
Speaker 3: you're you're the short term gain, long term pain less.
Speaker 1: You're very short term minded.
Speaker 3: I'm very just need to do it now sort it
Speaker 3: feel good and worry about it later. But then when
Speaker 3: I get to the later, I also don't worry about
Speaker 3: it really, and so I think that's the problem. It's
Speaker 3: like with cleaning my room. It's like I'll get to
Speaker 3: it and I just never do. And it's like I
Speaker 3: wish I felt pain from that, but I don't.
Speaker 1: But so you've you've spoken to your psychologist about this,
Speaker 1: I have. Can I just say you do you reckon?
Speaker 1: Who's worse at this point?
Speaker 2: Me?
Speaker 1: You are worse as of recently, I think I am.
Speaker 3: I was worse than you, and now you're worse than me,
Speaker 3: which makes me actually feel extremely good about myself.
Speaker 1: Well done. What do you think you are?
Speaker 3: I'm compulsive for sure, but I want to delve it
Speaker 3: way deeper into mind. So I want you to touch
Speaker 3: on your the conversations that you've had with your SiGe.
Speaker 1: We'll see impulsive shopping here.
Speaker 3: It just says an occasional splurg But compulsive is reoccurring
Speaker 3: behavior with a significant impact on day light. Well, it
Speaker 3: is reoccurring in that it is a bit reoccurring. Probably
Speaker 3: have a bit of each, but I reckon, I'm.
Speaker 1: Somewhere in the middle.
Speaker 3: In the Yeah, so themes of shopping can sometimes appear
Speaker 3: in OCD. For someone with OCD, shopping can become less
Speaker 3: about enjoyment and more about an intense need for certainty
Speaker 3: or perfection. And this is how my psyche described it
Speaker 3: to me, because I've flagged it with her previously. An
Speaker 3: element of OCD is manifesting itself in the form of
Speaker 3: bing shopping. In me, it's about soothing this desire for
Speaker 3: control and perfection. For me, I feel really shit about
Speaker 3: my body on the daily, so knowing I have enough
Speaker 3: things that cover the right bits makes me feel more
Speaker 3: confident I'm controlling the things that are seemingly out of control.
Speaker 1: Really is that CHRUSCT makes total sense?
Speaker 3: And I'm the same with packing or you know, should
Speaker 3: I say overpacking?
Speaker 1: But I must have everything.
Speaker 3: Being caught unprepared is truly my worst nightmare.
Speaker 1: How do you feel when you do these shopping binges?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: I want to touch first on what my episode was
Speaker 3: recently and where I fall. Okay, so I definitely have
Speaker 3: elements of both the impulsive and compulsive, but my behavior
Speaker 3: is for way more in the compulsive category, which is
Speaker 3: actually quite scary, particularly because when we were writing our notes,
Speaker 3: you wrote, I think we're more impulsive. Compulsive is really hardcore. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it is hardcore. It's really hardcore from what I was reading.
Speaker 3: It's having a significant impact on daylight emotionally and financially
Speaker 3: during these episodes that I have.
Speaker 1: It does so for me everything is planned out.
Speaker 3: I raally just go into a store without knowing what
Speaker 3: I want to buy and just buy it. Here's how
Speaker 3: I know why I'm compulsive, because I do all of
Speaker 3: these things below. So it actually makes me feel quite
Speaker 3: sick and ashamed when I say this out loud. So
Speaker 3: there's four stages to compulsive buying. One anticipation, so becoming
Speaker 3: preoccupied with thoughts and urges towards buying something. To operation,
Speaker 3: starting to think about where they will purchase, what sources
Speaker 3: of finance they will use, and even what.
Speaker 1: They will wear to do the shop.
Speaker 3: Three shopping the actual experience of shopping, which can produce
Speaker 3: pleasure and excitement.
Speaker 1: And then for the spending.
Speaker 3: After the purchase is made and the money is spent,
Speaker 3: people often feel a sense of guilt, disappointment, or let down.
Speaker 1: So my most recent episode was probably the worst I
Speaker 1: have had.
Speaker 3: So when I'm on Instagram or TikTok or any social
Speaker 3: media platforms. I take screenshots of the things that I
Speaker 3: that I want than that I like, and I save
Speaker 3: them into a folder in my phone that's called things
Speaker 3: I Want.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, that's very cool. I've got things very in
Speaker 1: a shock to know one.
Speaker 3: I have lists, yes, and so I then search these
Speaker 3: on my phone and my computer browser and have countless
Speaker 3: tabs open with all the different items in there. I
Speaker 3: then have a notes tab that is dedicated to this
Speaker 3: on my phone that I have little those little thick
Speaker 3: circles that you can tick them off, you know how
Speaker 3: you can put the like dot points that you can
Speaker 3: tick off. I constantly browse to try and find the nicest, best,
Speaker 3: best value of that item. And I will continue doing
Speaker 3: this for days and days and days, and I go
Speaker 3: back to it and then I click out of it,
Speaker 3: and then I go back to it again, and it
Speaker 3: becomes all consuming, and I think about these items until
Speaker 3: they're purchased.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was that bad for you. It's
Speaker 1: so bad.
Speaker 3: I I'm also heavily influenced by things that I see
Speaker 3: online and influencers, So even though I know it's probably
Speaker 3: not going to look as good on.
Speaker 1: Me same, I have to have the latest trend of something.
Speaker 1: Just farlow booboos. That's the only thing I'm not.
Speaker 3: Buying into, even though these people probably get them as
Speaker 3: freebies or you know, heavily heavily discounted or as gifts.
Speaker 1: I just have to have them.
Speaker 3: Once I have my list of everything that I need
Speaker 3: to purchase and where I want to get it from, I.
Speaker 1: Then do this big spending binge.
Speaker 3: So I have to get it all over and done
Speaker 3: with in one go almost so it's I don't know,
Speaker 3: less time to think about it, or it's gonna lessen
Speaker 3: the side effects that I'm going to experience from not
Speaker 3: only experiencing the regret and mighty once yes, yeah, but
Speaker 3: heavily Oh my god. Then once I have the binge episode,
Speaker 3: I will literally not buy anything for like months on end.
Speaker 3: So that's why it definitely is a binge and this
Speaker 3: compulsive thing for me, because I do it in a
Speaker 3: huge burst and then I won't do it again for months.
Speaker 3: So for example, I had my binge episode and then
Speaker 3: I went to Nike on the weekend with our little
Speaker 3: sister who had forty percent off through her work, and
Speaker 3: I didn't buy one because I wasn't in the binge. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I know, I feel I didn't feel panicked. But previously,
Speaker 3: if I was in the binge, I would have bought
Speaker 3: a thousand things there because I would have been like,
Speaker 3: I have to make the most of this. So it's
Speaker 3: just it's a real issue. When I lay it all
Speaker 3: out like this, it's concerning. So the Nike situation when
Speaker 3: you're like so proud of yourself and you're like, maybe
Speaker 3: I don't have a problem. That's how I get when
Speaker 3: I do these big surgeons and then I don't get stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm like, see, I'm fine, I'm good, no worries.
Speaker 3: I didn't think I didn't have a problem because I
Speaker 3: know the issue that I've just had for the past
Speaker 3: two months when I've had this binge. But also, don't
Speaker 3: reckon If you'd bought one jumper at Nike, don't reckon you,
Speaker 3: then I don't know about you.
Speaker 1: It would have opened. Probably would have liked again.
Speaker 3: Yes, so it's like it's all or nothing, which is
Speaker 3: what I realized I am as a person. Is it
Speaker 3: better to do as a binge or is it I
Speaker 3: don't think it's necessarily better to just buy two things
Speaker 3: every few weeks. Why not just do it as an
Speaker 3: orange because it's extreme, And I'll tell you why, because
Speaker 3: this is how I feel after a binge. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: feel panicked and uneasy until I do it. Yeah, once
Speaker 3: the spend is done, I feel relief for maybe a second,
Speaker 3: and then I feel horrendous shame, horrendous guilty, and so
Speaker 3: disappointed in myself that I haven't been able to not
Speaker 3: do it. The guilt and shame for me are very
Speaker 3: overwhelming and make me question my self control and my
Speaker 3: financial responsibility because I'm like, if I can't, if I'm
Speaker 3: just happily willing to spend all this money on something
Speaker 3: that actually doesn't make.
Speaker 1: Me feel good, Like, that's quite concerning.
Speaker 3: And I noticed it in your mood, like the latter
Speaker 3: day when you went to Henny and you just went
Speaker 3: absolutely nuts.
Speaker 1: I'm angry at myself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Henny's a big trigger for you. You have to
Speaker 3: have one of everything that they do. And we don't
Speaker 3: have enough room in our apartment, by the way, so
Speaker 3: that's actually another huge problem.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you then just get you actually gets physically angry.
Speaker 3: I know I do, but it doesn't stop me. Bizarrely,
Speaker 3: from doing it. And then if I order something online
Speaker 3: and it arrives once again, it's fun and exciting while
Speaker 3: I'm trying it on for about three seconds, and then
Speaker 3: the negative emotions start all over again when I go
Speaker 3: to my cupboard and I can't even separate the clothes
Speaker 3: to fit the new thing in, so the new clothes
Speaker 3: that end up just sitting on the floor in a bag,
Speaker 3: And so every time I enter my room it is
Speaker 3: a harsh reminder of the damage I have done. Sometimes
Speaker 3: I literally feel like I just want to burn it all.
Speaker 3: I'm like, burn it, get it out of my sight,
Speaker 3: get rid of it. But for me, it's all consuming,
Speaker 3: and the anxiety with it is, Yeah, a lot of
Speaker 3: the stuff I don't even get round to using or wearing,
Speaker 3: and then it will get to the next season and
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, this is gooby now, and I
Speaker 3: will still have a tag on. When we did that
Speaker 3: racket club sale and we sold a lot of our
Speaker 3: clothes for context, racket club is where you take clothes
Speaker 3: that are from your wardrobe that is still good enough
Speaker 3: to sell, that are probably too good to donate, maybe
Speaker 3: because they've got tags or their super designer.
Speaker 1: Much of our gear had tags on it so much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was bad. It was really bad.
Speaker 3: When I'm sorted and organized, so after I do a
Speaker 3: big binge shop, I feel a huge weight has been
Speaker 3: lifted off my shoulders.
Speaker 1: So you don't have any feelings of guilt or shame.
Speaker 3: I do get a bit of a tight chest, and
Speaker 3: I do feel a bit in bad, especially when a
Speaker 3: hundred boxers then rock up in our mail room and
Speaker 3: we get an email every time there's something for us
Speaker 3: in our mail room, so it will literally just be
Speaker 3: like ten emails a day, and there is a bit
Speaker 3: of a calm down. But I kind of figure it's
Speaker 3: my money. I'm not foregoing something else because of it. Yes,
Speaker 3: I'm burning through it quite rapidly, but I don't really
Speaker 3: want to buy a house or anything. So it's funny
Speaker 3: because when I think about the reason why I do it,
Speaker 3: some of the reasons out there online are people do
Speaker 3: it to improve their mood, their self image, their social
Speaker 3: approval and stress levels.
Speaker 1: I don't do it for that.
Speaker 3: I like, why do you do it? You do it
Speaker 3: because you feel shit about your body and you want
Speaker 3: to what it's kind of I don't even think it's
Speaker 3: about that. I I feel like I just want it.
Speaker 3: I need to be able to tick it off my
Speaker 3: list and get it out of my head. That I
Speaker 3: when I want something, I just have to get it
Speaker 3: off my sort of chest and tick it off.
Speaker 1: That to douly.
Speaker 3: But I also have realized I'm like this when it
Speaker 3: comes to exercise routine ticking things like shopping off a list.
Speaker 3: You know, on a Sunday, I have to do all
Speaker 3: of my washing, and I have to do it all
Speaker 3: in one go. I can't just do it in stages.
Speaker 3: Everything for me, I have to do all in one go.
Speaker 3: I do it with groceries on a Saturday. I plan
Speaker 3: my meals ahead, I have lists, and then I go
Speaker 3: to the markets first.
Speaker 1: I then go to Woolli's.
Speaker 3: I have to ensure that I do everything in that
Speaker 3: one shop, and if I can't find something, I have
Speaker 3: to go to a million different supermarkets. So I'm ticking
Speaker 3: all off my lists because if I have something not ticked,
Speaker 3: I don't feel relief until that stuff very OCD, isn't
Speaker 3: it very? But they also do say online when I
Speaker 3: did my research that people that do this are more
Speaker 3: likely to fall into a pattern of addictive behavior. And
Speaker 3: I am like that I have an addictive personality. It
Speaker 3: shines through in so many ways, and this is just
Speaker 3: one of them. Can you give us some eggs armfuls
Speaker 3: of things that you've been shocked. Well, I'll start off.
Speaker 3: We're at Chatta and shoppings any the other day, live
Speaker 3: no word of a lie. I bought six brown coats,
Speaker 3: and granted, you want to take them home and see
Speaker 3: what worked and whatever, and then return some of them.
Speaker 3: But some of them you couldn't return. You didn't realize
Speaker 3: when you've got a credit home, and then you were like, oh,
Speaker 3: I realized this. I really like, this is a bit different.
Speaker 3: This is more like a blazer, and you really tried
Speaker 3: to sort of keep.
Speaker 1: The fire, just just fire. In the end we were
Speaker 1: able to sift through that, but that was a lot.
Speaker 1: I also did this with Boots.
Speaker 3: I literally bought six different pairs of Boots hi knee ones,
Speaker 3: flat ones, or majority in the same color, and I
Speaker 3: ended up sending three back, but I kept three. I
Speaker 3: bought three cheap bags, as you did, exactly the same bag.
Speaker 3: We bought exactly the same bags in different shades.
Speaker 1: That's what I do.
Speaker 3: My worst one was and I reckon this has been
Speaker 3: happening for years because I did this in Union. I
Speaker 3: went to cookwrite and bought these single at the top
Speaker 3: in six colors, and they weren't cheap singlet tops. They
Speaker 3: were like one hundred and forty dollars each or something ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I know, it's insane. I even do dumb shit. This
Speaker 1: is where it's a bit impulsive. Dumb shit. Like I've
Speaker 1: bought a water filter.
Speaker 3: For my shower head, and I reckon, I bought that
Speaker 3: a year ago and I have not put it on
Speaker 3: my shower and it just sits there. Or you know,
Speaker 3: we've bought sticky little things to hang up artwork and
Speaker 3: we just don't stick it up, and so it just
Speaker 3: sits there.
Speaker 1: You can't count that, I reckon. I know, what of
Speaker 1: a lie? I reckon. I have twenty two containers.
Speaker 3: Of my protein powder, Yeah, filling up our cupboards. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because like you, when I see it on sale, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I have to buy it, and I, you know, just
Speaker 3: in case there's a natural disaster and I can't escape
Speaker 3: our apartment building, I need to have, you know, my
Speaker 3: protein powder.
Speaker 1: You know, I won't worry.
Speaker 3: About toilet paper like you to at least I might
Speaker 3: have protein powdered, but you got me through your toilet
Speaker 3: paper is the protein powder. You need to wind back
Speaker 3: that protein powder because it has taken up our entire
Speaker 3: kitchen and you can't possibly work through that much.
Speaker 1: It goes off angel and again I can just go
Speaker 1: and buy it, like, I don't know why I do this.
Speaker 3: And I have four denim jackets in my cupboard that
Speaker 3: are the same shade, the same shape, the same size,
Speaker 3: the same color. And you also say to me, we
Speaker 3: can't have the same items. And when you buy everything,
Speaker 3: what am I supposed to do? There's nothing for me
Speaker 3: to buy? Seriously, though, you're like, you can't buy the
Speaker 3: same as me because we go everywhere and do everything together.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, but also there's nothing left for me
Speaker 1: to buy. I'm so sorry. We need to share some things,
Speaker 1: you know, you buy googy things. Can I now talk
Speaker 1: about the link to hoarding?
Speaker 3: Yes, Oh, so there's links to hoarding, which I don't
Speaker 3: find hard to believe actually now that I've you know,
Speaker 3: worked through it. Research indicates a strong correlation between hoarding
Speaker 3: and compulsive buying, with studies showing that a significant portion
Speaker 3: of hoarders also exhibit compulsive buying behaviors and vice versa.
Speaker 3: Both hoarding and compulsive buying are linked to obsessive compulsive
Speaker 3: disorder traits. Some individuals may engage in hoarding or compulsive
Speaker 3: buying as a way to cope with feelings of low
Speaker 3: self esteem or I need to define their identity through
Speaker 3: material possessions.
Speaker 1: Do you reckon? That's where like you, that's where you
Speaker 1: kind of fall.
Speaker 3: Why don't I don't really identify myself through these possessions.
Speaker 3: I feel like I've got quite a strong personality that
Speaker 3: stands a lot.
Speaker 1: Oh but it's.
Speaker 3: Just having things. I need to have everything and be prepared.
Speaker 3: I find this funny because I can't really understand as
Speaker 3: all the evidence points to the fact that I should
Speaker 3: be a horder.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm actually quite the opposite in that respect.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a bit of a clothes hoarder, but
Speaker 1: I hate clutter. I hate mess.
Speaker 3: I feel like my brain's not clear and I can't
Speaker 3: concentrate unless my space is. It gives me anxiety when
Speaker 3: things around me are like organized. And I can also
Speaker 3: quite easily cull clothes and things as well, Like don't
Speaker 3: you notice that I can actually cull stuff out of
Speaker 3: my wardrobe. That white ruth, because the link of hoarding
Speaker 3: and compulsive buying is the excessive acquisition of possessions and
Speaker 3: difficulty discarding them. But you find it quite easy to discard, yeah,
Speaker 3: because I just want to get rid of it and
Speaker 3: burn it. But where you are sort of linked to
Speaker 3: the hoarding, that's a link for me as well to
Speaker 3: my eating disorder, because when I was doing some research,
Speaker 3: it said that people that have this compulsive shopping disorder
Speaker 3: often have eating disorders as well. They also mentioned about
Speaker 3: the picking pick my name. They said that it's a
Speaker 3: common thing as well.
Speaker 1: That's bizarre.
Speaker 3: I think it's just someone who's predisposed to.
Speaker 1: Like O c D behavior.
Speaker 3: It's just lucky that we haven't del you know, like
Speaker 3: delved into other types of addiction.
Speaker 1: But it's probably in us. I don't want to. That's
Speaker 1: I weirdly.
Speaker 3: Awareness is key, though, Can I just say at least
Speaker 3: we're aware of it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: But it's also strange because even though it's so something
Speaker 3: that I have control over, the shopping, it sort of
Speaker 3: feels so out of control.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. I don't know. But I
Speaker 1: also don't do it to seat validation. Do you think
Speaker 1: you do? Do you think you shop to seat.
Speaker 3: Validation from people? I don't mind's literally just I just
Speaker 3: want to I think it's got worse for us because
Speaker 3: we're attending things with superficial type people. Because imagine if
Speaker 3: we went to one of these events and would and
Speaker 3: I look to be fair, I have dressed. I'm not
Speaker 3: ashamed to buy a big W kmat of target either,
Speaker 3: but it would be judged if it was obvious that
Speaker 3: you were dressed, had to toe in something. Yeah, if
Speaker 3: you're goingto like a glamor on the grid and you're
Speaker 3: wearing a big W dress, I think you'd probably.
Speaker 2: Pressure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, and we're trying not to succumb
Speaker 3: to these pressures, but it's there is an added pressure,
Speaker 3: I think, and so we need to have we feel
Speaker 3: like to match those energies where you have to invest
Speaker 3: in a certain items.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3: Add this to the list of issues mental health conditions
Speaker 3: that we've had, or that we currently have or that
Speaker 3: will likely have in the future.
Speaker 1: It's actually not funny.
Speaker 3: It's not funny, But I just feel like the more
Speaker 3: we talk about this stuff, the more we realize how
Speaker 3: many issues we have. But I think as well, it's
Speaker 3: like you sought one area and then it pops out
Speaker 3: in another area.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: I saw it through one thing and then it comes
Speaker 3: out in my anxiety comes out.
Speaker 1: In a warrior.
Speaker 3: Do can we just don't worry about I just think
Speaker 3: fixing one thing because then it won't manifest itself in
Speaker 3: another way. I think we just need to keep work.
Speaker 3: That's why we have to be consistent with our mental health.
Speaker 3: And we do both have regular psychologists appointments. I have
Speaker 3: not brought this up with my psychologist yet. You need
Speaker 3: to going to be the next appointment, but you always
Speaker 3: are like, oh God, there's never enough time. This is
Speaker 3: so at the bottom of your list of issues. Not
Speaker 3: a fan, but as I said, we're kind of lucky
Speaker 3: it's coming out in more health. This isn't healthy, but
Speaker 3: there could be way worse things. Sales are the devil,
Speaker 3: Oh God, rip me when there is a sale, and
Speaker 3: sales and promotions often create a sense of urgency and scarcity,
Speaker 3: including feelings of fomo, and increase the likelihood of impulsive purchases.
Speaker 3: According to a study in the Journal of Business Research,
Speaker 3: right now people are ef shopping.
Speaker 1: Do you know what that is? End of financial year?
Speaker 1: Good girl?
Speaker 3: Many retailers offer end of financial year sales to clear
Speaker 3: out stock and attract customers before the end of the
Speaker 3: financial year. There's also coincides with tax time, where people
Speaker 3: may be looking to purchase work related items to claim
Speaker 3: as deductions. In Australia, peak shopping times are across the weekend,
Speaker 3: which makes sense. Saturdays and Sundays contribute to forty percent
Speaker 3: of total weekly online sales and across the holiday season
Speaker 3: October to December, with November being the most critical month
Speaker 3: for sales.
Speaker 1: Is that when they do the Black Friday sale.
Speaker 3: November, driven by events like Black Friday and Cyber Monday,
Speaker 3: accounts for eighteen percent of the year's online shopping revenue.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fun fact live. Do you know why it's called
Speaker 1: Black Friday? The origins of the term because everyone's going
Speaker 1: into the black with.
Speaker 3: It's something like that. The origins of the term are
Speaker 3: somewhat debated, but the most widely accepted theory is that
Speaker 3: it originated in Philadelphia. So police in Philadelphia complained about
Speaker 3: an influx of people coming to the city to shop
Speaker 3: the day after Thanksgiving, calling it a black Friday because
Speaker 3: they had to control crowds from there. The term was
Speaker 3: used to describe shopping on that day and gain momentum
Speaker 3: with each year passing. But it's also a day when
Speaker 3: retailer's accounts went from being in the red to in
Speaker 3: the black.
Speaker 1: There you go, I just said that the last one.
Speaker 3: In the fifties, managers reportedly used black Friday to describe
Speaker 3: the day many workers would call in sick after Thanksgiving,
Speaker 3: making a comparison with the bubonic plague. Oh fun fact,
Speaker 3: compact fun pack fun fact. Also, cyber Monday is called
Speaker 3: that because it's the Monday after Thanksgiving in the US,
Speaker 3: a time when many people return to work and take
Speaker 3: advantage of online sales with fast internet.
Speaker 1: Access at their workplaces.
Speaker 3: The term cyber refers to the fact that the dealers
Speaker 3: are primarily offered online.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're not going to run through every
Speaker 1: definition of all the days on bored Boxing Day.
Speaker 3: Boxing Day sales all because they're on Boxing Day, but
Speaker 3: they're dumb boxing Dave, because you've just bought all your
Speaker 3: Christmas presents, but.
Speaker 1: People buy them for the following year.
Speaker 3: You've just bought all your Christmas and then you see
Speaker 3: that exact item you bought for your mum for fifty
Speaker 3: percent off.
Speaker 1: So we should all just get presents for our families.
Speaker 3: It should be like, we'll celebrate Christmas on the twenty
Speaker 3: seventh when we can purchase all the discount of Boxing Days.
Speaker 3: And this is the evil thing with sales is you
Speaker 3: think you're saving money, but then you get sucked into
Speaker 3: all these extra items you're actually not.
Speaker 1: Now, why do we call.
Speaker 3: It Boxing Day Live because people box each other to
Speaker 3: try and get the items at the super at the
Speaker 3: shopping center. Explanations for the origin of the name are varied,
Speaker 3: with some believing that it's derived from the opening of
Speaker 3: arms boxes that had been placed in churches for the
Speaker 3: collection of donations to aid the poor. Others, however, have
Speaker 3: held that it come from the have held that it
Speaker 3: came from the boxes of gifts given to employees on
Speaker 3: the day after Christmas. I really had to stopped myself
Speaker 3: after that from googling more. My god, half that boring.
Speaker 3: Please edit that crap out, But as you know, I
Speaker 3: have to make sure I'm always getting the best deal.
Speaker 3: It's quite crazy, and there's actually science behind it. So
Speaker 3: apparently many conpulsive buyers experience a sense of euphoria and
Speaker 3: reward when they win by purchasing something at a discounted price,
Speaker 3: which can reinforce the addictive behavior. The temporary relief and
Speaker 3: sense of accomplishment from a sale purchase can reinforce the compulsion,
Speaker 3: making it more difficult to break the pattern. I reckon
Speaker 3: I would have a tendency to be addicted to gambling
Speaker 3: if I let myself.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I have a massively addictive personality, so I don't.
Speaker 1: I hate to think what I could get adictored to.
Speaker 3: That's why you just can't start anything, I know you,
Speaker 3: Just like when we've done that, dabbled in the pokies,
Speaker 3: I really have.
Speaker 1: To try and control that gear. Do you know what
Speaker 1: I've also started doing, which I hate you for. I've
Speaker 1: started doing the coupon code freaking. I'm telling you, a
Speaker 1: coupon code is gorgeous.
Speaker 3: You google coupon code for whatever brand you want to
Speaker 3: buy something from, and you can get tempacize life. I
Speaker 3: think in my most recent binge, I don't think I
Speaker 3: spent the full retail price.
Speaker 1: I don't need to tell you what else is good.
Speaker 3: When you subscribe to their net newsletter or something you
Speaker 3: also get a discount code and the amount of things
Speaker 3: when I'm online that I say, register my interests when
Speaker 3: they've sold out, and then I'll get those emails and
Speaker 3: oh my god, the bloody sales emails.
Speaker 1: I get sucked into all them. Is there anything else
Speaker 1: you want to say?
Speaker 3: Before I finish off with some strategies we can use
Speaker 3: to overcome this binging, because we must move forward and
Speaker 3: try and curb what's going on. So one, let's speak
Speaker 3: to our psychologist. Yes, that's a good place and stuff,
Speaker 3: but plan and budget is key. So create a budget.
Speaker 3: So this is what my psychologist told me to do.
Speaker 3: Put aside a specific amount of money in a specific
Speaker 3: bank account as a shopping shopping budget for the year,
Speaker 3: and only allow yourself to spend.
Speaker 1: That a month or whatever. Oh but that wouldn't work
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 3: I just keep making excuses and justify and add money.
Speaker 1: Don't you.
Speaker 3: Make a shopping list so you can focus of what
Speaker 3: you actually need.
Speaker 1: But I would just do a shopping list of my life.
Speaker 1: That's the thing.
Speaker 3: My mind would be six brown coats and six boots,
Speaker 3: Like my list is going to be everything that I want, So.
Speaker 1: That doesn't work.
Speaker 3: Use the waiter day rule, So just sit on something,
Speaker 3: think about it for a day, and then the next
Speaker 3: day circle back on it.
Speaker 1: But we do that all the time and still winge.
Speaker 1: But that's my probably biggest issue. It all consumes me
Speaker 1: for two months.
Speaker 3: Keep the tabs open and click out and click back in,
Speaker 3: and so you with the tabs, you always end up
Speaker 3: going back and buying.
Speaker 1: So manage emotional triggers.
Speaker 3: So identify your triggers and try and avoid them.
Speaker 1: Well you know, like say on that, yeah.
Speaker 3: And online, and you're just gonna have to turn every
Speaker 3: device and TV and everything off and close your eyes
Speaker 3: when you're walking the streets so you don't see it.
Speaker 1: Shop myself in my room and sleep for the rest
Speaker 1: of my life.
Speaker 3: Engage in alternative activities. So try and find a new
Speaker 3: hobby that's something you can do. Well, yes, I had
Speaker 3: that on my list, developed new hobbies, but all my
Speaker 3: hobbies require money spending because I want to buy a
Speaker 3: Nintendo switch and la boobers. Yeah, okay, practice mindfulness to
Speaker 3: try and sort of like meditate your way out of it.
Speaker 3: Limit exposure and change your environment. So limit social media
Speaker 3: and advertising, change your shopping habits.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you do it that I can
Speaker 1: subscribe unsubscribed for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can do that, yes, Like exposure is too
Speaker 3: too great? Pay with cash yes, so maybe take the
Speaker 3: stuff off your phone and don't go out with your
Speaker 3: credit card, take take Apple pay off, and then develop
Speaker 3: new habits and seek support. So practice delayed gratification, make
Speaker 3: a conscious effort to resist immediate gratification and wait before
Speaker 3: making a purchase that sounds too hard, Seek support, which
Speaker 3: we're obviously doing, and list a friend to help, like sorry,
Speaker 3: if I'm listen, you to help you just a name, No,
Speaker 3: I'm a bad person to be around. And build healthy
Speaker 3: coping mechanisms, so fine. Alternative ways to deal with stress, boredom,
Speaker 3: and negative emotions that might trigger impulse buying.
Speaker 1: Like what because I don't like to go out? Well, sorry,
Speaker 1: you're just gonna have to feel some discomfort. What about
Speaker 1: this one?
Speaker 3: Pause before a purchase, ask yourself do you really need
Speaker 3: this item?
Speaker 1: How will it add value to your life?
Speaker 3: But ah, that will not work for me because the
Speaker 3: answer will be yes, I really need this item, and
Speaker 3: yes it will add a great deal of value to
Speaker 3: my life. So developing new habits and seeking support is
Speaker 3: what I've been working on with my psychologist the most,
Speaker 3: particularly making a conscious effort to resist immediate gratification and
Speaker 3: wait before making a purchase. So when I feel the
Speaker 3: need to buy, I get this sort of surge of
Speaker 3: anxiety that is only eased by the purchasing. What I
Speaker 3: ultimately need to do to stop myself from these indefinitely
Speaker 3: is to learn to sit in that anxiety.
Speaker 1: And like to sit in my anxiety.
Speaker 3: And not ease the anxiety by buying. So don't buy
Speaker 3: the item I want. Sit in my anxiety, and it
Speaker 3: will dissipate. Normally, it won't dissipate as quickly as buying
Speaker 3: the item, because that's an immediate fix. But by consistently
Speaker 3: doing this, you'll find it easier and easier to stop
Speaker 3: yourself from shopping, because these huge anxiety build ups and
Speaker 3: releases will become less and less the more you practice
Speaker 3: sitting in that anxiety.
Speaker 1: It's easier said than done. Obviously, any of that's going
Speaker 1: to work for me.
Speaker 3: I think I'm just going to have compulsive shopping you
Speaker 3: just versus of my life, and I'm I'm screwed because
Speaker 3: I don't want to have kids, so I'm never going
Speaker 3: to have anyone to spend money on or anything else,
Speaker 3: and I'm always just going to spend this money on
Speaker 3: my sale. I'll probably find myself taking up smoking or something,
Speaker 3: vaping or something to try and overcome this.
Speaker 1: And you can't do that. You can't put a band
Speaker 1: aid over it. And what's good? Let out somewhere else to.
Speaker 3: Walk, drinking exist, drinks water, being friendly and kind and updep.
Speaker 1: Do you? So you don't think any of this will
Speaker 1: work you you struggle to see. Although I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think I just need to yet.
Speaker 3: I think I just need to pause when I want
Speaker 3: to buy something and actually think about it, because I
Speaker 3: do not think about it.
Speaker 1: For me, It's not even a thought process. I just
Speaker 1: do it, okay. And also you need to close the
Speaker 1: tabs speak to walk away.
Speaker 3: Just just have a limit on your accounts or maybe
Speaker 3: I can control your accounts.
Speaker 1: I think the only thing that will work for.
Speaker 3: Me is if I have other priorities like morgagury, payments, kids, etc.
Speaker 1: Because I will need to feed my.
Speaker 3: And also for me actually fitting into the clothes that
Speaker 3: are in my wardrobe, yes, rather than just buying new items,
Speaker 3: because that's why I buy a lot of new items
Speaker 3: because I've pukeed up a bit, so i don't fit
Speaker 3: into any of my clothes, but I'd like to be
Speaker 3: able to fit into the rest of my clothes anyway.
Speaker 1: That's it from me.
Speaker 3: What a joy, What a joy to have another addiction
Speaker 3: to add to the list and issu you we'll keep
Speaker 3: you updated on how the recovery is going. Can you
Speaker 3: DMUs if you have an example of a big shop
Speaker 3: you've done so we feel better about ourselves, feel better
Speaker 3: beat six cookie tops in the same color style colors.
Speaker 3: I actually feel ashamed. This episode just made me feel very,
Speaker 3: very very ashamed.
Speaker 1: Surely it's relatable. Tryhard, Hall of.
Speaker 3: Fame alright, I have quite the funny Hall of Fame
Speaker 3: this week. This is a bit of a connection to
Speaker 3: one previous episode that we did, and it is by
Speaker 3: a lovely lady that I'm not going to reveal her name,
Speaker 3: even though she was like, I don't care that much,
Speaker 3: but I'm just not going to embarrassing story.
Speaker 1: So I just met my now husband of twenty one years.
Speaker 3: We went to the Anzac Day celebrations, playing two up,
Speaker 3: met or his mates, etc. We were very intoxicated and
Speaker 3: since he lived near the pub, we were at we
Speaker 3: decided to stay at his place. I'm laying in his
Speaker 3: bed spinning around. I get up, run to the toilet
Speaker 3: and start chucking. Keep in mind, I'm not a quiet chucker,
Speaker 3: so I visage like yeah, whilst heaving, I get a
Speaker 3: tap on the shoulder and an older gentleman asking are
Speaker 3: you okay?
Speaker 1: Love.
Speaker 3: To my horror, my now father in law came to
Speaker 3: my rescue with a bottle of water and a panetole. Say,
Speaker 3: when I woke in the morning to absolute embarrassment is
Speaker 3: an understatement. That was the first time I'd ever met
Speaker 3: my partner's dad. We still laugh about it twenty one
Speaker 3: years on. Imagine that being the first time you meet
Speaker 3: your bloody.
Speaker 1: In there in great wedding story.
Speaker 3: But also what's nice is that the guy didn't run
Speaker 3: a mile, because that's what normally happens to me.
Speaker 1: I've told a story before where I chuned it.
Speaker 3: On a guy's floor and he literally kicked me to
Speaker 3: the curb rightly, So I will do this thing. So
Speaker 3: maybe I'll do it again and I'll get a husband
Speaker 3: out of it.
Speaker 1: Good luck. Yeah, Well that's it, really, isn't it. Leave
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Speaker 3: take care, have a wonderful time until we speak next Bye.
Speaker 2: Trying to pull you back