WEBVTT - Are the Broncos galloping back into the premiership race? 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.520 When Reece Walsh is in the mood like he was 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:05.280 against Penrith last night. I can't put a line through 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:08.000 them to one, make the eight nor give the competition 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:11.960 a shake because in a very unpredictable season made funnier. 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:13.640 Things have happened than Brisbane winning the comp. 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:17.639 Well happy Friday everyone. Thanks for tuning in to the 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:21.280 Continuous Call Team daily podcast. My name is Adam Hawes 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:25.279 and I'm joined by columnist for The Australian Andrew Webster. G'day. 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:28.240 G'day, horsey. And do you mind if I also do 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:30.320 a shout out to the random guy that stopped me 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:32.720 on the street about 20 minutes ago and said how 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:37.400 much he loves this podcast? And I said, I said, 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:39.239 am I making sense? He said, you are. But that 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:42.599 bloke Hawes seems to gibber a bit. So obviously he's 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:46.160 a very, very, uh, very intelligent man. By the sounds 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:46.520 of it. 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:49.560 There would have been a line up of well-wishers, wouldn't there? 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:50.960 They love it. 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:53.560 Yeah. Just fending, fending them off. Okay. Um, I gotta 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:56.320 ask you. Hey, can you hear that sound? Can you 0:00:56.320 --> 0:01:00.560 hear the sound? What's that? It's it's the Broncos galloping back. 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:01.240 Galloping. 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:03.639 Into the Premiership. Right? You like that? The galloping back 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:05.720 into the Premiership race. What a game last night. I 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:07.240 love this game against the Panthers. 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:08.000 Can we have a listening? 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:08.760 You hear something? 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:11.479 I can hear it. I can hear some galloping. That's 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:14.600 because that's what I've got. Sky racing on in the corner. Uh, 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:17.559 yes you did. I thought it was, uh. It was, 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:21.160 it was classic Brisbane, wasn't it? Um, you know, uh, 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:24.120 Michael Maguire said in the lead up to that game 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:26.520 that this is the strongest team for the first time 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:29.440 since April, that they've been able to, uh, build a 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:32.920 fully fit team. Although I don't think Adam Reynolds was 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:35.600 fully fit. He's, um, how he got through those 80 minutes. 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:38.919 I don't know, he's, um, he's a warrior, the little fella. Uh, 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:42.679 but important to that Broncos team. And, um, you know, 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:45.679 if you wanted to make a statement that the Broncos 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:49.000 aren't dead yet, what better way to do it over 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:52.360 the team that everyone expects to win this, uh, this, 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:55.320 this competition in a canter? See that there's a little 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:57.880 there's a little horse reference there as well. But but 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:00.080 it was I thought it, I thought it was very 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:02.919 I thought it was very Broncos like. The big question is, 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:05.920 can they maintain the rage and sneak into the eight 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:08.680 and scare the bejesus out of every other team in 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:09.440 the competition? 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:12.120 Well, that's what Madge Maguire said through the week. We 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.680 can still put a fright into the teams above us, 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:16.440 and I think the I think he did just that 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:20.200 last night. That was very much. 2025 Broncos late season 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:22.960 last night against the Panthers. As you say, they've gone 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:25.560 and beaten the ladder leaders on their home turf. Webby 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:27.959 and the man central to it all. A man who 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:29.919 made sure they got the win was Reece Walsh. And 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:32.000 he's the one that caught fire last year. Of course, 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:34.280 that was his best game by a mile last night. 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:38.000 No mistakes, just some great touches. Three tries since he 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:39.640 was a danger. Every time he had the ball and 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.120 he he just looked like he wanted to win from 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:43.320 the very first kick off. 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:47.160 100% when Reece Walsh's into it. The Broncos are into it. 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:49.919 It helps when they're going forward like like they were 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:53.680 last night for a change. Um you know it's they 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:55.959 haven't been playing the greatest football at all. I suppose 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:59.160 the big question is can they beat. And this is 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:01.240 probably works in their favour, but it also makes it 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:04.200 a daunting task because there's no easy wins. Every team 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:08.520 they play for the next seven weeks, uh, are above 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:10.840 them on the ladder. Some of them are like, like 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:14.079 the Bulldogs and Canberra almost on the same points, but 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:17.359 all but also teams like, uh, like the Cowboys and 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:21.960 others who are already established in the eight. So funnier 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.360 things have happened. Horsie. I know they're coming from a 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:27.840 long way back in comparison to what they did last year, 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:32.200 but with the players they've got, and particularly when Reece 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:34.520 Walsh is in the mood like he was against Penrith 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:37.000 last night, I'm not. I can't put a line through 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:39.560 them to one, make the eight nor nor give the 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:43.200 competition a shake because in a very unpredictable season and 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.040 I know the Panthers and and the Warriors have sort 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:48.040 of been the frontrunners up there but in a very 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:51.680 unpredictable season made funnier. Things have happened than Brisbane winning 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:52.240 the comp. 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:56.400 Yeah. Look, there are only 1 or 2 injuries away 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:58.320 or a suspension away though aren't they. They just I 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:01.240 just get the feeling they've left themselves too much to do. 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:04.400 But like you, you're a fool to write them off. 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:06.360 We all have egg on our face. What I think 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:09.200 it has done, whereby it has breathed new life into 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:11.480 the Premiership race, because I used to look at that 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:13.560 bottom nine and think, well, who's going to really come 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:16.400 through and do any damage? There was no one really 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:18.360 standing out to me. But now you've got the defending 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:25.040 premiers potentially at full strength, gathering some steam. Uh, suddenly teams, 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.680 people are sitting up taking notice these last eight rounds. 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.160 You know what I find like to me, they the 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.720 Broncos showed in that game like they did in the 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:35.440 preliminary last year on their way to the Premiership. The 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:37.320 best way to try and I don't know if you 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:40.600 can rattle Penrith. They're just not a team that's rattled easily. 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:43.120 But if you can stay in the grind with them 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:45.400 and if you can, you know, if you can unsettle them. 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:48.480 I mean, the way that Haas, Payne Haas went after 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:51.000 Liam Henry, you know all night, like if you can 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:53.040 get up on them and cut their time down and 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:56.200 you cut Nathan's time down in particular, you know, they 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.440 can they can they've got a they've got a blue 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:00.120 in them. Um they can, they've got, they've got an 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.880 error in them now and then, but like, like all teams, um, 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:05.400 you know, they're not robots but they're very hard to 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:09.560 break down. Penrith. But Brisbane have showed again that they're 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:10.679 capable of doing it. 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:14.400 Just on the Panthers. That is now three losses from 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:17.360 their last four games. Webby. I mean they were cruising 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:19.720 for much of the season three losses in four games. 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:23.560 Very upset. Penrith like is there any cause for concern there. 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:25.960 I don't know. You know as well as I do 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:29.040 that it's hard to make judgments on teams around this 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:32.240 time of year coming in, going through origin, and then 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:34.000 at the other side of it, like there's still a 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:36.039 lot of footy to be played before the finals. So 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:40.200 I still think Penrith are clearly the team to beat. Thanks, scoop. 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:43.679 That's hardly breaking news. But but but I mean I 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:45.600 don't think I don't I wouldn't even say they've got 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:47.800 the wobbles. I know they've lost. They've dropped a couple 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:51.240 in the last month. But again it's always makes it 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:55.120 hard to to judge um you know through the origin period. 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:57.760 So yeah. There you go. If anyone wants to clip 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:01.200 that one up Bronco Panthers still the team to beat. 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:03.599 Breaking news here every day. 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:05.919 Breaking news here on the NRL daily. 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.960 I think um look I think uh they're tapering. They're 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:12.240 getting themselves ready for the back end. Nathan Cleary you 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:14.320 can't tell me Nathan Cleary is flat out last night 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:17.560 after origin. Uh, let's move it along to third party agreements. 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.480 You love Tpas Webbe. And Jarome Luai is picking up 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:24.000 quite a few with his PNG deal, which came out 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:26.559 this week. It's a big reason why. Apparently the Tigers 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:27.440 wanted to move him on. 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.280 Uh, look, I'd love third party deals. I'd love to 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:32.320 get my hands on some of these tax free third 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:36.719 party deals that, uh, the PNG players are going to get. Look, 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:41.359 I don't know how much that played on the Tigers 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:44.160 minds to push him out. I mean, Alex Johnston's got 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:47.560 a third party deal with PNG companies. You know at 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:49.720 the moment he needs with South Sydney. And you get 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:53.160 enough buys during your uh during a season to go 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.000 service them. And if you if you can't, if you've 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.120 got to go to, to Port Moresby and, and do 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:00.719 promotional work, whatever. Most of the time these third parties 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:04.599 are as much about putting, uh, you know, putting, putting 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:07.440 someone's face on a billboard. I suppose the thing that 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:10.320 I wanted to talk about mostly today, though, is the fact, 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:13.160 and I think it's been forgotten entirely in this whole 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:17.440 drama about Jerome Louis and him moving on. Louis, neither 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:22.320 I nor Parramatta nor the the the Tigers and nor 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:25.360 PNG from earlier this year when they sign him in 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:28.680 the first place in in late April, have done anything wrong. 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.280 You know, I find the whole comparison with what happened 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:34.680 with Lachlan Gaven last year ridiculous. Lachlan Gordon wanted to 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:37.200 break a contract to leave the club. Um, so to 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.160 compare that to the Jerome Louis situation doesn't make sense 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:42.920 at all. The thing that I think is forgotten in 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:48.240 this whole thing is, uh, that when Jarome Luai signed 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:52.680 with the Tigers in January 2024, no one knew there was. 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:55.240 There'd been talk about PNG coming in the competition, but 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:58.160 there was so much uncertainty about it, and nobody knew 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:00.880 at all that they were going to get complete tax 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:04.400 free dollars, not just on their contracts, their playing contracts, 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:07.840 but also the third party agreements from 28 onwards when 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:11.720 they enter the competition. Do you think the Tigers at all, 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:13.800 or any club for that matter, would be putting in 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.400 get out clauses like the one they gave Jerome? Louis, 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:19.960 knowing that that incentive was around the corner to join 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.240 a new franchise? Not at all. The Tigers wouldn't have 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:24.800 done it. So I think the bigger picture here is 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:27.840 just how much the NRL has thrown out the player 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:31.800 market by rushing in all these tax free incentives to 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:35.600 prop up the PNG chiefs without really thinking it through, 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.720 because that's going to be a drama moving forward in 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:42.000 the next few years when, you know, there's so many, uh, 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:44.520 third party opportunities up there. And I know the reported 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:48.120 number was around 900,000 a year. I'm told it's actually 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:51.360 a hell of a lot more. Or has the potential 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:53.240 to be a hell of a lot more with 3 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:57.480 or 4 other, um, third parties in PNG ready to 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:00.079 throw the bank of Jerome, Louis and whoever else is 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.240 going to be there. Now, you talk to some club 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:05.400 bosses and they'll say, you know, they're not that worried 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:07.270 about it at all. They think it's overblown, but you 0:09:07.270 --> 0:09:10.150 talk to others and you talk to some player managers 0:09:10.150 --> 0:09:13.350 who are rubbing their hands together with glee. Um, you know, 0:09:13.390 --> 0:09:17.110 there's opportunities there. There's a lot of opportunities to make 0:09:17.150 --> 0:09:18.790 a hell of a lot of money, particularly if you're 0:09:18.790 --> 0:09:20.710 a marquee like Jerome Louis. 0:09:21.390 --> 0:09:23.910 Are you saying the problem is that, um, there's going 0:09:23.910 --> 0:09:25.990 to be a stampede to Port Moresby? Are you saying 0:09:25.990 --> 0:09:28.429 that players are going to be promoting these third parties 0:09:28.429 --> 0:09:31.350 while they're still at their existing club before they relocate 0:09:31.350 --> 0:09:32.750 to PNG, which is going to be the case with 0:09:32.750 --> 0:09:34.030 Jerome Louis next year at Parramatta. 0:09:34.070 --> 0:09:35.590 Well, that's what they. But they can do that now. 0:09:35.630 --> 0:09:38.230 That's you know, that's that's what Alex Johnston's doing as 0:09:38.230 --> 0:09:42.670 I said, doing it for playing for Souths and promoting um, 0:09:42.990 --> 0:09:46.630 uh PNG companies. He's doing that already. So I don't 0:09:46.630 --> 0:09:49.150 think Jerome's going to be doing anything that's untoward. I 0:09:49.350 --> 0:09:51.630 just think, as I said, the main problem is I 0:09:51.630 --> 0:09:53.990 don't think the NRL, in their haste to make sure 0:09:53.990 --> 0:09:56.390 the Chiefs were competitive, I think they've tipped the balance 0:09:56.390 --> 0:09:58.510 a little bit too far. And that's what I mean. 0:09:58.510 --> 0:10:01.630 The player market is going to be very, very skewed 0:10:01.630 --> 0:10:04.150 in the next few years. So where it lands I 0:10:04.150 --> 0:10:06.750 don't know. But it's very hard to take something back 0:10:06.750 --> 0:10:09.390 after you've given it, and I can't see the NRL 0:10:09.429 --> 0:10:13.069 having to backtrack on. I mean, those tax free incentives 0:10:13.110 --> 0:10:16.110 are enshrined for the next ten years of their existence. 0:10:16.110 --> 0:10:17.150 So you know. 0:10:17.230 --> 0:10:19.790 It doesn't win every it doesn't it doesn't win over 0:10:19.790 --> 0:10:22.550 everyone Webby because Mitch Kenny has just resigned with the Panthers. 0:10:22.550 --> 0:10:24.710 There was a lot of talk that PNG were going 0:10:24.710 --> 0:10:26.510 to chase him. But he says, you know what? I'm 0:10:26.510 --> 0:10:28.630 happy where I am. I'm at a successful club. I 0:10:28.630 --> 0:10:30.510 love it here. I'm staying. I don't ever want to 0:10:30.510 --> 0:10:32.990 hear what you've got to offer. So it's not for everyone. 0:10:32.990 --> 0:10:34.950 I agree, I understand that that's what I said. I 0:10:34.950 --> 0:10:37.589 don't think every club's sort of jumping at it, but 0:10:37.590 --> 0:10:39.550 I do. I can see it and there's a lot 0:10:39.550 --> 0:10:42.350 of talk amongst all the other clubs and player managers 0:10:42.350 --> 0:10:44.270 about how much it's going to skew the market because 0:10:44.270 --> 0:10:45.670 of those tax free incentives. 0:10:46.750 --> 0:10:48.069 I just want to come back to what you said 0:10:48.070 --> 0:10:51.030 about the governance situation with Jerome Lou. I think he 0:10:51.030 --> 0:10:53.510 did leave himself open to some criticism, Jerome, because he 0:10:53.510 --> 0:10:56.630 was saying all we're all in here. You know, let's, uh, 0:10:56.790 --> 0:10:59.150 we're all about team first, all those sort of posts 0:10:59.150 --> 0:11:01.910 he put out on social media, then then to use 0:11:01.910 --> 0:11:03.670 an exit clause to go and sign with someone else. 0:11:03.670 --> 0:11:06.470 He did leave himself open to that criticism. That, mate, 0:11:06.470 --> 0:11:07.750 you've gone against what you said. 0:11:07.950 --> 0:11:12.790 Yeah. To what? To a point. But he's the professional footy. That's. 0:11:12.790 --> 0:11:13.670 That's life in Australia. 0:11:13.870 --> 0:11:14.310 It is. 0:11:14.309 --> 0:11:16.710 Business break. It didn't break though did he. 0:11:16.830 --> 0:11:18.630 No no he didn't. But you got to understand. 0:11:18.710 --> 0:11:20.870 He didn't have he didn't have the other club sort 0:11:20.870 --> 0:11:24.190 of sitting there wooing him through media contacts and channels. 0:11:24.230 --> 0:11:25.590 You know, for the best part of a year. I 0:11:25.590 --> 0:11:28.949 think that's as I said, I understand the emotion around it, 0:11:28.950 --> 0:11:32.069 particularly from from Tigers fans and from Bulldogs Bulldogs fans. 0:11:32.070 --> 0:11:35.110 But in the dead set, fair dinkum department, they're chalk 0:11:35.110 --> 0:11:35.670 and cheese. 0:11:37.030 --> 0:11:39.710 Zac Lomax he's heading to the Chiefs. That seems to 0:11:39.710 --> 0:11:41.910 be the way it's going. He needs to make up 0:11:41.910 --> 0:11:43.750 some money that he's lost the last couple of deals 0:11:43.750 --> 0:11:46.550 he's done. So, uh, is that what you're hearing? It 0:11:46.550 --> 0:11:48.110 sounds like a three year deal at the Chiefs. 0:11:48.230 --> 0:11:51.510 Speaking of walking out of contracts. Yeah. Zac Lomax has, uh, 0:11:51.790 --> 0:11:53.709 walked out of a couple, but he won't be walking 0:11:53.710 --> 0:11:56.469 out of the one with Rugby Australia, which ends, uh, 0:11:56.510 --> 0:11:59.589 next season after he may or may not play in 0:11:59.590 --> 0:12:02.230 the World Cup. The feeling I've got from the phone 0:12:02.230 --> 0:12:03.710 calls I've made in the last couple of days is 0:12:03.710 --> 0:12:07.630 that it's pretty much feels like it's a done deal. Um, 0:12:07.670 --> 0:12:10.270 and for that reason, if he can make up the 0:12:10.270 --> 0:12:14.510 money that he's lost from walking out on these NRL deals, uh, 0:12:14.750 --> 0:12:16.670 there's money to be made. As I said in, in 0:12:16.670 --> 0:12:21.990 Papua New Guinea, um, uh, Rugby Australia, from the discussions 0:12:21.990 --> 0:12:24.190 I've had with them in the last 24 hours, they're 0:12:24.190 --> 0:12:27.030 more than comfortable with it. They haven't paid overs for, 0:12:27.030 --> 0:12:29.990 for Zac Lomax, it was never about trying to put 0:12:29.990 --> 0:12:34.230 one over uh, rugby league at all. Uh, I think 0:12:34.270 --> 0:12:37.830 it comes with a little bit of a rider. If 0:12:37.830 --> 0:12:41.630 Zac Lomax does, he's got an osteoporosis issue at the moment, 0:12:41.630 --> 0:12:43.550 which is a which is a bastard of an injury. 0:12:43.550 --> 0:12:46.230 But if he can come back from that and make 0:12:46.230 --> 0:12:49.230 his way into that Wallabies team, particularly, uh, next year 0:12:49.230 --> 0:12:52.190 during the World Cup, he may be able to, uh, 0:12:52.230 --> 0:12:54.670 garner a lot of interest from the likes of, uh, 0:12:54.670 --> 0:12:58.270 of French rugby and Japanese rugby who are playing, paying 0:12:58.309 --> 0:13:01.189 enormous amounts of money at the moment, as we know. 0:13:01.190 --> 0:13:06.150 But whether, uh, whether, uh, Zac wants to wait that 0:13:06.150 --> 0:13:09.590 long and wait to see how he's, uh, he's what 0:13:09.590 --> 0:13:12.429 his value is like in, in the rugby union market, 0:13:12.429 --> 0:13:14.590 as opposed to getting a deal done as soon as 0:13:14.590 --> 0:13:17.510 he can with, uh, with the Chiefs. I suppose that's 0:13:17.510 --> 0:13:18.590 going to be the big question. 0:13:19.550 --> 0:13:21.230 Uh, maybe just want to finish with a story in 0:13:21.230 --> 0:13:23.430 the Herald today, uh, with cam McInnes, one of the 0:13:23.429 --> 0:13:26.630 great guys in the NRL. And he says the sharks 0:13:26.630 --> 0:13:28.150 are on the wrong end of the penalty count because 0:13:28.150 --> 0:13:31.790 they are playing fair. Fair by the rules, Webby. They're 0:13:31.790 --> 0:13:35.150 not lying down looking for penalties like every other team. 0:13:35.150 --> 0:13:36.910 And it's come back to bite them apparently. 0:13:36.950 --> 0:13:39.950 I love that, I love Cameron McInnes as a Dragons fan. 0:13:39.950 --> 0:13:42.590 I was devastated when he, uh, he left the club. 0:13:42.710 --> 0:13:45.030 He's my type of player with the way he plays 0:13:45.470 --> 0:13:49.429 the things he says, his teeth. That's my kind of guy. 0:13:49.630 --> 0:13:52.470 That's my kind of player. And this makes him even 0:13:52.470 --> 0:13:55.910 more so because there is nothing that I hate more 0:13:55.950 --> 0:14:00.030 than watching players. They don't even lay down in in league. 0:14:00.070 --> 0:14:02.270 They just sort of even when they just sort of 0:14:02.309 --> 0:14:05.270 get up to their one knee while on the waiting 0:14:05.270 --> 0:14:07.070 to play the play the ball, waiting for them. 0:14:07.110 --> 0:14:07.870 You know why they do that. 0:14:07.910 --> 0:14:10.830 Waiting, waiting for the bunker to to step in. It's like. 0:14:10.990 --> 0:14:12.870 Because if they if they lie down on the ground, 0:14:12.870 --> 0:14:14.350 they've got to go off for an HR. I get it, 0:14:14.350 --> 0:14:16.430 I get it, I get it. They've twigged. Oh, let's 0:14:16.429 --> 0:14:18.670 take it. Let's take a knee. Yeah. And they can't 0:14:18.670 --> 0:14:19.310 order us off. 0:14:19.350 --> 0:14:22.430 But you know. But rugby league has never been about that. 0:14:22.470 --> 0:14:26.590 I found a story um recently from it was saying 0:14:26.630 --> 0:14:28.510 this is how long ago it was. Ricky Stuart was 0:14:28.510 --> 0:14:31.830 coaching Cronulla and Ivan Cleary was coaching the Warriors. And 0:14:31.830 --> 0:14:34.310 Ricky came out after a. It might have been a 0:14:34.350 --> 0:14:39.390 loss and he wins for Australia about the game turning 0:14:39.390 --> 0:14:43.230 into soccer. Now, if anyone's been watching the FIFA World 0:14:43.230 --> 0:14:45.790 Cup now that is uh, now that's diving at a 0:14:45.790 --> 0:14:48.310 next level. Like they get a broken eyelash and they're 0:14:48.310 --> 0:14:51.350 writhing around in pain on the on the ground. So 0:14:51.710 --> 0:14:54.870 hopefully rugby league doesn't go too far down that path. 0:14:54.910 --> 0:14:57.990 But it is certainly taking that, uh, that going in 0:14:58.030 --> 0:15:01.790 that direction in many ways. So, um, I've got on 0:15:01.790 --> 0:15:05.670 camera McGuinness and the sharks for saying no to diving 0:15:05.670 --> 0:15:06.710 no diving here. 0:15:06.750 --> 0:15:10.430 Yeah. In in what he's saying is right. Because because 0:15:10.510 --> 0:15:13.710 they're not diving. They're missing the penalties, though. That's wrong. 0:15:13.750 --> 0:15:15.670 That's where referees need to have a look at themselves 0:15:15.670 --> 0:15:17.870 and go, you know, it was a high tackle. Just 0:15:17.870 --> 0:15:19.990 because he's playing on doesn't mean it's not a penalty. 0:15:20.030 --> 0:15:22.190 That's right. You know the the teams that are throwing 0:15:22.190 --> 0:15:24.030 themselves on the ground are getting the favors from the refs. 0:15:24.030 --> 0:15:26.150 So this actually comes back to the match. Officials have 0:15:26.150 --> 0:15:29.350 a closer look and don't penalize teams for doing the 0:15:29.350 --> 0:15:31.790 right thing, which effectively is what's going on at Cronulla. 0:15:31.830 --> 0:15:34.510 I'm sure Peter, I'm sure Peter V'landys now is in 0:15:34.510 --> 0:15:37.790 the interim Supreme Leader role or whatever it is that 0:15:37.790 --> 0:15:40.270 he's going to have at the NRL. Now that Andrew 0:15:40.270 --> 0:15:42.150 Abdo has left, I'm sure Peter will will sort it 0:15:42.150 --> 0:15:43.070 all out for us. 0:15:43.790 --> 0:15:45.110 Okay. Well that wraps us up. What do you think 0:15:45.150 --> 0:15:47.310 you mate would have said about today's podcast? 0:15:47.430 --> 0:15:49.950 I think he would have been happy with both our performances. 0:15:50.150 --> 0:15:51.710 As you should. Good. I'm going to give you the 0:15:51.710 --> 0:15:54.870 three Dally M points. I'll take him. I'll take the two. 0:15:56.110 --> 0:15:58.590 All right. 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