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S1: culture and entertainment. Now, today is a very special episode.

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S1: Our inaugural Pop culture awards. From Rihanna's pregnancy reveal to

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S1: the moments that have defined pop culture in 2023. Osman

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S3: All right. So it's been a very 2023 was a

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S2: Uh, this one's going back a little bit, but I

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S1: It's very upset by that. Even though before you were

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S2: I'm happy for you to, like, hook up and like,

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S3: Bringing new life in. Yes.

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S2: No. He's got, like, three good sperm left. Just keep

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S6: The American Dream. Rags to riches.

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UU: Trailers. The Mansions. You are fucking Joslyn.

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S7: Just do you.

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S8: Easy. I'll just do that.

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S3: Playing Sam Levinson's HBO show that, uh, you know, about

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S3: It. I this is where I'm heading to. Don't jump ahead.

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S3: All right. It feels part of the trend from the year, though.

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S3: He didn't do that. He went for a total douche.

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S3: Be I think so, you know, life is kind of

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S2: He is. And he was so good in Uncut Gems. So, like,

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S2: No season two. No.

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S1: Yeah, well, Rob, the the revival of the weekend's reputation

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S1: never get over Troy in the shock necklace like Troy's villain. Yeah,

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S1: that was a lot. My scandal. It's more just a

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S1: So I think I did that. You did you put

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S3: Campion's kid.

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S1: She handled it very well, didn't she.

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S9: She did. Yeah.

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S1: So I think that kind of trend, that realization, that

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S1: I did love.

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S2: Hailey Bieber wearing the Nepo baby shirt. Do you remember that?

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S2: She wore like a slogan shirt when it broke and

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S2: it was I said, Nepo baby. I like that slogan shirt.

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S1: Pretty interesting.

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S3: There's like no other way around. It just got to

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S3: claim it. Right?

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S9: Yeah.

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S1: That's it. All right. Let's move on to our next category.

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S1: Now this one is this one's nice one. It's the

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S1: pop culture moment person or trend that made you most

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S1: happy I'll kick us off. Mine was very humble guest

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S1: at the Met Gala. This was the cockroach that stole

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S1: the show. Do you guys remember this?

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S9: Yeah I do, yeah. This was.

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S2: You talking about Pete.

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S9: Davidson? Yeah. Oh, nice. That's good. Um.

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S1: It's called guns blazing in this episode. He doesn't. He.

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S1: And a year fever. Um, this was the cockroach at

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S1: the Met Gala. One of the most glamorous nights in

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S1: and fashionable, their little cockroach scurried on to the onto

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S9: Described it, it was very funny.

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S2: And it felt like one of those things, I think,

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S2: The Cockroach. It was like the cockroach that stole the show.

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S2: Who is the cockroach at the Met Gala? And it's

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S2: now for like, it feels like every year something crazy

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S2: It's always got this. Like, there's there's a moment now

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S1: Yeah, it was great. And also I will shout out,

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S9: I do remember this.

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S1: And it was like she was so obviously pregnant, but

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S1: that was mine. Rob, what made you smile?

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S3: Kylie getting global attention at 55 for, uh, Padam. Padam? Yes,

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UU: But, um, I hear it, and I know that, um, but, um,

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S1: And then we could. Would you like to tell the

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S2: Talk us through your Spotify wrapped.

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S3: Yeah, okay. My Spotify wrapped, uh, number one, top 1%,

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S2: Just you and Danny.

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S3: Maybe Jason Donovan. Yeah, I still have some. Um, yeah.

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S3: So we had to write a we wrote a story

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S3: of hate mail about. We missed a few, I think.

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S1: Um, and I think when we started it, we thought

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S3: Yeah. I don't even remember. Yeah.

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S3: Was enough to, uh, skew my whole algorithm for the rest.

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S9: Of the year.

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S3: But yeah, we, uh, made a decision to include some

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S9: And now you're on the Kylie.

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S1: Ride for life.

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S3: Yes, but the other thing I enjoyed, I wanted to

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S3: he's like 12 year old me was like, waiting for

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S9: Yeah. You're done. That's very good.

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S1: Um, Thomas, what are you saying? You're banned from saying

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S1: Sydney Sweeney? Uh.

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S9: Just to get actually trying.

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S2: To, like, thinking before we came on. Will we get

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S9: I feel like we can't.

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S2: Yeah, yeah. It's happened. Uh, look, my one is possibly

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S2: And to have these two very different but equally high

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S2: And at first it started as like a weird internet

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S10: Yeah. Any of the Bob and Heimer? I mean, it

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S10: was impossible.

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S11: To, um. Wasn't there.

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S10: Some great one.

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S11: Avoid any of that stuff? Um, which is.

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S10: People are so clever with the things that come up.

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S10: It was incredible.

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445
00:19:42,150 --> 00:19:45,119
S10: What I mean? I know people kept asking me, they're like, so, uh,

446
00:19:45,390 --> 00:19:48,840
S10: so the studio is talking, the studio, each department, marketing

447
00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,000
S10: departments talking to each other. And I was like, no,

448
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,489
S10: this is the world doing this. The world. This is

449
00:19:53,490 --> 00:19:56,100
S10: not a part of the marketing campaign. This is just happening.

450
00:19:56,100 --> 00:19:56,520
S10: And I think.

451
00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,330
S11: It happened because like, both movies were good.

452
00:20:00,330 --> 00:20:01,199
S10: Yeah, yeah.

453
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,090
S11: That's the thing. And there was a sort of a

454
00:20:03,090 --> 00:20:05,310
S11: diversity offered by both.

455
00:20:05,310 --> 00:20:07,379
S2: And I just thought it was like a really nice

456
00:20:07,380 --> 00:20:10,320
S2: pop culture thing. Often, you know, the default mode for

457
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,690
S2: these types of like conversations is snark, but I think

458
00:20:12,690 --> 00:20:15,270
S2: everyone just enjoyed it. Um, so yeah, I thought I

459
00:20:15,270 --> 00:20:17,040
S2: thought the Barb and hammer phenomenon was like a really

460
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,780
S2: fun thing for everyone to be involved in.

461
00:20:18,780 --> 00:20:20,700
S1: Yeah. That's good. I feel like I really want another

462
00:20:20,700 --> 00:20:21,870
S1: one of those to happen.

463
00:20:21,869 --> 00:20:22,380
S9: Yeah, yeah.

464
00:20:22,380 --> 00:20:24,780
S3: We had Soul Patrol, which no one went to.

465
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,420
S9: Yeah, that's very true.

466
00:20:27,930 --> 00:20:32,070
S1: Um, okay. Moving on now we're onto the what we've

467
00:20:32,070 --> 00:20:35,910
S1: called the Dwayne The Rock Johnson Award for the pop

468
00:20:35,910 --> 00:20:40,290
S1: culture happening that carried the most weight in 2023. So

469
00:20:40,290 --> 00:20:42,750
S1: this is kind of a really important pop culture moment.

470
00:20:42,750 --> 00:20:45,300
S1: That kind of shaped the year in many ways. Rob

471
00:20:45,300 --> 00:20:46,440
S1: who was the heavy lifter.

472
00:20:46,770 --> 00:20:49,110
S3: Okay, two words Fran Drescher.

473
00:20:49,980 --> 00:20:50,490
S9: The nanny.

474
00:20:50,700 --> 00:20:51,900
S3: The Che Guevara of.

475
00:20:51,900 --> 00:20:52,530
S9: Hollywood.

476
00:20:54,420 --> 00:20:57,300
S12: This is a moment of history. That is a moment

477
00:20:57,300 --> 00:21:03,540
S12: of truth. If we don't stand tall right now, we

478
00:21:03,540 --> 00:21:06,389
S12: are all going to be in trouble. We are all

479
00:21:06,390 --> 00:21:10,800
S12: going to be in jeopardy of being replaced by machines

480
00:21:11,010 --> 00:21:14,940
S12: and big business. Who cares more about Wall Street than

481
00:21:14,940 --> 00:21:19,590
S12: you and your family? Most of Americans don't feel it.

482
00:21:19,590 --> 00:21:22,679
S3: Had to be. The actors and writers strikes like, uh, even,

483
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,590
S3: you know, just the fact that so many productions, uh,

484
00:21:25,590 --> 00:21:29,010
S3: got paused, uh, actors and writers were out of work

485
00:21:29,010 --> 00:21:33,540
S3: for 148 days. Um, it also affected us personally here

486
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,060
S3: in the Sydney Morning Herald that we only got to

487
00:21:36,060 --> 00:21:39,990
S3: interview directors for most of the year. Like, I like directors,

488
00:21:39,990 --> 00:21:41,639
S3: but they know Sydney Sweeney. No.

489
00:21:41,910 --> 00:21:43,050
S2: Okay, good. That's number two.

490
00:21:44,670 --> 00:21:47,880
S3: Um, like, honestly, I still don't 100% know what came

491
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,230
S3: out of it. Something about AI and, uh, streaming residuals, right?

492
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:52,800
S3: I think they don't.

493
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,330
S2: Really know either. They just like we won.

494
00:21:54,420 --> 00:21:54,900
S9: So you actually.

495
00:21:54,900 --> 00:21:56,250
S1: Didn't listen to France speech at all?

496
00:21:56,430 --> 00:21:58,080
S3: I saw at the end she was happy, and that's

497
00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:58,740
S3: all that counts.

498
00:21:59,190 --> 00:21:59,370
S9: Well.

499
00:21:59,970 --> 00:22:02,010
S1: As always. Great. Did you like the nanny or.

500
00:22:02,180 --> 00:22:03,260
S3: Of course. Yeah.

501
00:22:03,770 --> 00:22:04,970
S1: Long time, long time.

502
00:22:04,970 --> 00:22:06,530
S9: Fran fan. Exactly.

503
00:22:06,650 --> 00:22:10,040
S3: Saturday night fever. Was she in that one of those, anyway?

504
00:22:10,580 --> 00:22:11,570
S1: Thomas. What's yours?

505
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,110
S2: Mine, I guess is like. I feel like it fits

506
00:22:15,109 --> 00:22:20,090
S2: into this category, but it's not. It's sport related.

507
00:22:20,330 --> 00:22:23,300
S1: Okay, okay. We love sport. We sometimes are a sport pod.

508
00:22:23,330 --> 00:22:26,030
S2: I feel like the Matildas fever became a pop culture

509
00:22:26,030 --> 00:22:29,240
S2: phenomenon in a way. Um, because obviously, you know, Australia

510
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,540
S2: and New Zealand co-hosted the FIFA Women's World Cup and

511
00:22:32,540 --> 00:22:36,109
S2: the Matildas, you know, went on this amazing run. They

512
00:22:36,109 --> 00:22:38,570
S2: kind of started the tournament shakily. It had all these

513
00:22:38,570 --> 00:22:41,179
S2: like incredible narratives of Sam Kerr's injury. Like, you know,

514
00:22:41,180 --> 00:22:43,669
S2: what's she gonna play? Then we go play England in

515
00:22:43,670 --> 00:22:45,830
S2: the quarterfinals. The first time we ever made the quarterfinals

516
00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:48,380
S2: and very much the whole country, you know, just like

517
00:22:48,380 --> 00:22:51,740
S2: got so swept up in Matildas fever. You know, I

518
00:22:51,740 --> 00:22:54,260
S2: was watching these shootouts with people I know like friends

519
00:22:54,260 --> 00:22:56,240
S2: of mine who don't like football. And people got so

520
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,860
S2: into it. And to the point where it did feel

521
00:22:57,859 --> 00:23:00,830
S2: like it got passed, just a sporting phenomenon and became

522
00:23:00,830 --> 00:23:02,840
S2: like the only thing we were all talking about for

523
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,060
S2: a couple of weeks, which was like, so great to

524
00:23:05,060 --> 00:23:09,710
S2: to see. And, you know, probably pre-tournament, I reckon, like

525
00:23:09,710 --> 00:23:13,040
S2: for instance, you could probably could like name one Matilda,

526
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,960
S2: Sam Kerr. But now I feel like but now I

527
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,940
S2: feel like all of them are like household names and,

528
00:23:16,940 --> 00:23:19,940
S2: and yeah, it was it's always special when like a

529
00:23:19,940 --> 00:23:21,739
S2: sporting moment kind of takes over the country like that.

530
00:23:21,740 --> 00:23:23,960
S2: And this I think particularly being here was great.

531
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,210
S1: Yeah, I think that's true. And after maybe it's something

532
00:23:26,210 --> 00:23:28,609
S1: to do with after a few years of Covid that

533
00:23:28,609 --> 00:23:31,040
S1: things like Barb and Heimer and the Matildas kind of

534
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,620
S1: brought us all together. We wanted these collective moments of, yeah.

535
00:23:33,619 --> 00:23:35,090
S2: And you've signed up to a local football club now,

536
00:23:35,090 --> 00:23:35,780
S2: which is amazing.

537
00:23:35,780 --> 00:23:37,580
S1: Absolutely. And Tottenham.

538
00:23:37,609 --> 00:23:38,600
S9: Yeah, yeah.

539
00:23:38,630 --> 00:23:41,990
S1: Not that we're doing so well anymore. Um, look, mine

540
00:23:41,990 --> 00:23:44,240
S1: was in terms of shifting the narrative in terms of

541
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,690
S1: its import for the year. Prince Harry spear came out

542
00:23:47,690 --> 00:23:49,879
S1: at the start of the year. First time a member

543
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,490
S1: of the royal family has done such a tell all

544
00:23:52,490 --> 00:23:55,820
S1: memoir was obviously a huge bestseller. It shone a light

545
00:23:55,820 --> 00:23:58,730
S1: on his family in such an intense and intimate way.

546
00:23:58,730 --> 00:24:00,409
S1: And there were, while there was a lot of coverage

547
00:24:00,410 --> 00:24:03,770
S1: of helicopters, like maybe too much coverage of the helicopters

548
00:24:03,770 --> 00:24:07,340
S1: really likes them. Like meeting Meghan. The way he frames that,

549
00:24:07,340 --> 00:24:09,980
S1: the way he frames his whole childhood was fascinating reading,

550
00:24:09,980 --> 00:24:12,740
S1: and obviously the consequences of that are going to linger

551
00:24:12,740 --> 00:24:15,770
S1: long and large in the royal family itself and also in,

552
00:24:15,770 --> 00:24:19,370
S1: I guess, British history and the place of the monarchy there. So, um, yes,

553
00:24:19,369 --> 00:24:20,060
S1: Prince Harry.

554
00:24:20,060 --> 00:24:23,659
S3: Yeah. Nice. And no one can have us their memoirs anymore, right?

555
00:24:23,690 --> 00:24:26,510
S1: Yeah. That's so true. 800, 800 pages or so.

556
00:24:26,510 --> 00:24:27,560
S9: Yeah, yeah.

557
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,980
S2: I can't tell if Harry's like, where his, like the

558
00:24:30,980 --> 00:24:33,709
S2: public view of him he's at right now. Like to

559
00:24:33,710 --> 00:24:35,270
S2: people like him after the book.

560
00:24:36,190 --> 00:24:37,750
S3: Yeah, it's hard to say. Yeah, I think.

561
00:24:37,750 --> 00:24:38,889
S1: That's like an overdose. Right.

562
00:24:38,890 --> 00:24:40,629
S9: Of him after there was like. I like him. Right.

563
00:24:40,630 --> 00:24:41,200
S9: You're off him.

564
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,900
S3: Ah, I don't mind. I have no opinion whatsoever. I

565
00:24:43,900 --> 00:24:47,530
S3: like them, I like that they, uh, tell the whole family,

566
00:24:47,980 --> 00:24:51,850
S3: but I feel like there's a lot of, uh, traditionalists

567
00:24:51,850 --> 00:24:54,550
S3: who are not really up for that.

568
00:24:54,609 --> 00:24:57,729
S1: Yeah, he kind of spoke against the family. Which one

569
00:24:57,730 --> 00:25:09,280
S1: should not? Yes. Right. All right, let's move on to

570
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:14,530
S1: captain's call. Um, another quite ambiguous category, but here we go.

571
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,139
S1: This is a chance for our judges to spotlight a

572
00:25:17,140 --> 00:25:19,510
S1: piece of pop culture that they just want to shout

573
00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:21,670
S1: out that didn't really might have made them smile, might

574
00:25:21,670 --> 00:25:24,100
S1: have made them kind of a bit perturbed. But here's

575
00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:26,440
S1: your chance, Thomas. Pop culture. What do you want to

576
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:27,070
S1: talk about?

577
00:25:27,100 --> 00:25:28,930
S2: Mine is not a fun one, sadly, but I think

578
00:25:28,930 --> 00:25:31,359
S2: it is worth mentioning, which I like the Russell Brand

579
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,340
S2: story from earlier this year. Uh, it was a joint

580
00:25:33,340 --> 00:25:36,430
S2: investigation by the Sunday Times, the Times and Channel four

581
00:25:36,550 --> 00:25:40,300
S2: dispatches program, where basically five women accused brand of abusive

582
00:25:40,300 --> 00:25:44,409
S2: and predatory behavior. Um, between 2006 and 2013. And it

583
00:25:44,410 --> 00:25:46,480
S2: was one of those stories that, I mean, in terms

584
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,690
S2: of like the journalistic element was very impressive reporting, but

585
00:25:49,690 --> 00:25:52,179
S2: it really opened up like a big chat for everyone.

586
00:25:52,180 --> 00:25:54,370
S2: We covered it on the pod, you know, this kind

587
00:25:54,369 --> 00:25:57,010
S2: of thing where brand had always been, you know, the

588
00:25:57,010 --> 00:26:00,610
S2: subject of whispers. And he had that kind of like charming, cheeky, like,

589
00:26:00,609 --> 00:26:03,070
S2: you know, oh, he pushes the boundaries. But, you know,

590
00:26:03,070 --> 00:26:05,770
S2: after the allegations came out and people started to look

591
00:26:05,770 --> 00:26:08,110
S2: at the evidence, it really opens up like, you know what?

592
00:26:08,109 --> 00:26:10,840
S2: What line are we pushing when we, you know, embrace

593
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,479
S2: and kind of like enable these types of characters. And

594
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,970
S2: I just thought, yeah, it was it was a worthy story.

595
00:26:15,970 --> 00:26:19,179
S2: And it kind of kicked off some good conversations. And yeah,

596
00:26:19,180 --> 00:26:22,630
S2: it's just it is sadly too common in this industry

597
00:26:22,630 --> 00:26:24,370
S2: for it to happen. But yeah, it was it was

598
00:26:24,369 --> 00:26:26,830
S2: an interesting kind of moment for everyone to look back on.

599
00:26:26,830 --> 00:26:28,600
S1: Yeah. I feel like that was a real moment of

600
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,760
S1: reckoning at that time, that everyone had to kind of

601
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,120
S1: think about their own role and complicity in that too. Um,

602
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,460
S1: so yes, not a fun one, but important to bring

603
00:26:36,460 --> 00:26:36,940
S1: the vibes away.

604
00:26:36,940 --> 00:26:37,180
S9: Yeah.

605
00:26:37,180 --> 00:26:39,370
S1: Important one. But I have a feeling I know what

606
00:26:39,369 --> 00:26:42,580
S1: Robert is going to say, because sitting next to Rob,

607
00:26:42,910 --> 00:26:45,250
S1: this is the only thing he really talks about.

608
00:26:45,250 --> 00:26:46,090
S9: It's true. Rob.

609
00:26:46,090 --> 00:26:46,840
S1: Captain's call.

610
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,820
S3: Mine is, uh, very unserious compared to that. Uh, okay. Well,

611
00:26:51,850 --> 00:26:53,950
S3: first of all, it was a big year for prestige

612
00:26:53,950 --> 00:26:56,470
S3: TV this year. I think we can all agree, like

613
00:26:56,470 --> 00:26:59,770
S3: all these shows that have dominated awards and, uh, critical

614
00:26:59,770 --> 00:27:05,290
S3: acclaim for recent years, uh, finishing up succession, obviously Barry, uh,

615
00:27:05,290 --> 00:27:09,010
S3: Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, Ted Lasso, even even though everyone kind

616
00:27:09,010 --> 00:27:12,100
S3: of came to their senses by the end. Prestige TV

617
00:27:12,220 --> 00:27:14,620
S3: won awards, is what I'm saying. You know, it was

618
00:27:14,619 --> 00:27:16,689
S3: the hyped comedy for a while. Let's all.

619
00:27:16,690 --> 00:27:17,980
S1: Get into a prestige TV.

620
00:27:18,220 --> 00:27:19,000
S9: National debate.

621
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,530
S3: But there's one finale that people forgot. Riverdale.

622
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:24,640
S2: Oh my God.

623
00:27:24,790 --> 00:27:25,149
S9: This.

624
00:27:25,810 --> 00:27:30,220
S3: Second last episode of Riverdale is like classic Riverdale. It, uh,

625
00:27:30,220 --> 00:27:34,900
S3: in that it was a clever, silly, ridiculous, um, it

626
00:27:34,900 --> 00:27:38,110
S3: would take me days, maybe weeks to explain the kind

627
00:27:38,109 --> 00:27:41,740
S3: of intricacies of how we got to the finale there.

628
00:27:41,740 --> 00:27:45,250
S3: But essentially, the episode explained how the characters got sent

629
00:27:45,250 --> 00:27:48,280
S3: to a parallel timeline in the 50s, uh, to avoid

630
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,060
S3: getting killed by, uh, Bailey's Comet. Uh, but and by

631
00:27:52,060 --> 00:27:54,610
S3: the end, they got all their memories reinserted in this

632
00:27:54,609 --> 00:27:58,750
S3: parallel timeline by basically watching Riverdale, the same Riverdale we

633
00:27:58,750 --> 00:27:59,290
S3: all watched.

634
00:27:59,830 --> 00:28:00,310
S9: Anyway.

635
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,820
S2: This is really. This is really selling me on the show.

636
00:28:03,820 --> 00:28:04,090
S9: Yeah.

637
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,430
S3: You gotta you gotta get to a lot to get

638
00:28:06,430 --> 00:28:08,800
S3: to that point. But anyway, now we're seeing kind of

639
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,290
S3: the legacy of Riverdale already play out, uh.

640
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:12,190
S9: Right here on.

641
00:28:12,190 --> 00:28:12,700
S1: The Drop.

642
00:28:13,990 --> 00:28:17,530
S3: Beyond, beyond the show. Uh, Charles Melton, who played Reggie

643
00:28:17,530 --> 00:28:22,929
S3: the football meathead and Veronica's co-owner at LA Bonnie. Uh,

644
00:28:23,109 --> 00:28:25,840
S3: he's getting raves for his role in May-December, the new

645
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,810
S3: Todd Haynes movie. Uh, and he's tipped for an Oscar like,

646
00:28:28,930 --> 00:28:30,609
S3: beautiful Riverdale legacy.

647
00:28:30,970 --> 00:28:35,440
S1: Rob Black exclusively wants to do stories on Riverdale alumni. Like, now. Like,

648
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,149
S1: he'll be like, we should do something on this. And

649
00:28:37,150 --> 00:28:38,530
S1: I'm like, why? And he's like, Riverdale.

650
00:28:38,770 --> 00:28:39,700
S9: Obviously Riverdale.

651
00:28:39,850 --> 00:28:41,530
S3: Lili Reinhart has got something coming up.

652
00:28:41,530 --> 00:28:44,350
S1: Yeah. Do you think everyone will like Riverdale or like,

653
00:28:44,350 --> 00:28:46,360
S1: what type of person? Like what type of show do

654
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,610
S1: you think someone would have to like to also enjoy?

655
00:28:48,970 --> 00:28:55,330
S3: You've got to appreciate absurdity. Um, and there's a personal aspect.

656
00:28:55,330 --> 00:28:58,840
S3: The director is obviously throwing everything he's ever loved in there.

657
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,010
S3: It's just like constant references, um, done in the campy

658
00:29:03,010 --> 00:29:07,600
S3: as possible way, uh, you feel like camp and, uh, hilarity.

659
00:29:08,410 --> 00:29:11,950
S1: All right, maybe I will. That will be my summer viewing. Like,

660
00:29:11,950 --> 00:29:14,770
S1: I feel like I owe it to you to understand you,

661
00:29:14,770 --> 00:29:15,940
S1: to watch this thing that's so.

662
00:29:15,940 --> 00:29:16,870
S9: Important to you.

663
00:29:17,740 --> 00:29:21,040
S1: Um, my captain's call has to go to Taylor Swift

664
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,540
S1: and the eras tour. She has stolen the year, really,

665
00:29:25,540 --> 00:29:27,850
S1: hasn't she? Like, I keep thinking Taylor Swift can't get

666
00:29:27,850 --> 00:29:31,330
S1: any bigger, and then she just continues to obviously named

667
00:29:31,330 --> 00:29:34,540
S1: Time Person of the year Travis Kelce. Biggest selling tour

668
00:29:34,540 --> 00:29:37,570
S1: of all time. I think I've enjoyed all the TikToks

669
00:29:37,570 --> 00:29:40,000
S1: around the tour like I, I don't have tickets at

670
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,440
S1: this stage. If you would like to go with me,

671
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,130
S1: please just.

672
00:29:42,130 --> 00:29:42,730
S9: Uh, yeah.

673
00:29:42,850 --> 00:29:44,980
S1: If you already hit me up. But, um, I like

674
00:29:44,980 --> 00:29:47,050
S1: all the TikToks and memes, and I like all the

675
00:29:47,050 --> 00:29:50,290
S1: chat around how she changes each show and the little

676
00:29:50,290 --> 00:29:53,170
S1: shout outs to Travis Kelce. So I think she deserves

677
00:29:53,170 --> 00:29:54,880
S1: the captain's pick for the year, surely?

678
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,460
S2: Yes. I mean, she definitely needs all the support she

679
00:29:57,460 --> 00:29:57,880
S2: can get.

680
00:29:59,350 --> 00:30:02,020
S3: I enjoyed that day in the office where the, uh,

681
00:30:02,410 --> 00:30:05,770
S3: lounge room, uh, Circle of Doom was just on everyone's.

682
00:30:05,770 --> 00:30:07,300
S9: Computer trying to get into the.

683
00:30:07,610 --> 00:30:09,740
S1: So stressful. And then everyone was like, it's the ISP

684
00:30:09,770 --> 00:30:10,910
S1: going to stop us all.

685
00:30:10,910 --> 00:30:11,330
S9: Yeah.

686
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,550
S1: Big, big. You didn't get tickets, did you?

687
00:30:13,580 --> 00:30:14,420
S9: No. No.

688
00:30:14,420 --> 00:30:16,130
S1: Yeah. And you still don't, right. No. Well, there you go.

689
00:30:16,130 --> 00:30:18,920
S1: Hit us all up. Take the three of us, um, for.

690
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,140
S9: A good time. All right?

691
00:30:21,230 --> 00:30:24,530
S1: Now we've done some looking backwards. Oh, firstly, congratulations for

692
00:30:24,530 --> 00:30:28,430
S1: presenting the first pop culture awards. You all did fantastically. Um,

693
00:30:28,430 --> 00:30:30,680
S1: now we might do. We're going to do a bit

694
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,640
S1: of a brief look forward to 2024. Lots on the schedule,

695
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,480
S1: some kind of hypothesised yet to be confirmed, a few confirmed. Um,

696
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,380
S1: Robin 2024. What are you most looking forward to?

697
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,010
S3: There's a few things. There's a lot already confirmed coming

698
00:30:46,010 --> 00:30:48,560
S3: up that that is pretty exciting. Like, the thing I'm

699
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,490
S3: most excited about is the return of pops superstars. So

700
00:30:52,490 --> 00:30:56,510
S3: Dua Lipa, Ariana Grande, Cardi B, they all have new albums,

701
00:30:56,510 --> 00:31:00,590
S3: either like scheduled or rumored for 2024. Um, just the

702
00:31:00,590 --> 00:31:04,880
S3: other day, Ariana Grande shared some, uh, shots of herself

703
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,400
S3: in the studio. Uh, and I saw a comment under

704
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,760
S3: them saying something like, thank you for your service, Renee.

705
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:15,050
S3: Rap tape, McRae, Sabrina Carpenter, etc. uh, but you're no

706
00:31:15,050 --> 00:31:19,100
S3: longer needed. Like 2023 did feel a bit like that.

707
00:31:19,100 --> 00:31:21,770
S3: Like there was a dearth of those kind of big releases,

708
00:31:21,770 --> 00:31:25,820
S3: except for maybe Olivia Rodrigo and, uh, Souza. Maybe, um,

709
00:31:25,820 --> 00:31:28,760
S3: and so that's exciting for 2024.

710
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,410
S1: What do you want to see from her new album? Like,

711
00:31:30,410 --> 00:31:32,480
S1: what do you hope Ariana does with this one?

712
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,850
S3: Well, obviously we want to see her touch on, uh,

713
00:31:34,850 --> 00:31:39,200
S3: the whole, uh, divorce and, uh, hook up.

714
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:39,950
S9: Right. Do you want.

715
00:31:39,950 --> 00:31:40,730
S1: Her most personal.

716
00:31:40,730 --> 00:31:42,380
S9: Album today? Okay, yeah.

717
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,070
S3: There are also some big movies coming out, like Furiosa

718
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:48,709
S3: with Anya Taylor-Joy. Uh, but the one I'm going to

719
00:31:48,710 --> 00:31:52,880
S3: pick that I've been waiting for is challenges Luca Guadagnino's, uh,

720
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,400
S3: tennis slash, uh, sex movie, I guess.

721
00:31:55,580 --> 00:31:55,940
S9: With.

722
00:31:56,330 --> 00:31:59,720
S3: Zendaya. Yeah. So it was supposed to come out in September.

723
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,350
S3: It got delayed because of the, uh, the strikes. And

724
00:32:03,350 --> 00:32:06,080
S3: I read that Zendaya, uh, to prepare for it, had

725
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,620
S3: six months of training with Brad Gilbert, Andre Agassi's coach.

726
00:32:09,620 --> 00:32:10,400
S9: Wow. So that's.

727
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:10,880
S3: Something.

728
00:32:11,420 --> 00:32:13,760
S1: It looks so good, that film. And like the stills

729
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,010
S1: they've released and the trailer, I think it's going to

730
00:32:16,010 --> 00:32:16,520
S1: be I think it.

731
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:17,120
S9: Was the year.

732
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,459
S3: Yeah, I think it was. People were excited for it

733
00:32:19,460 --> 00:32:22,160
S3: last year. So anticipation just built.

734
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,030
S9: Yeah yeah yeah.

735
00:32:23,030 --> 00:32:25,820
S1: So true. Thomas 2024. What's it hold.

736
00:32:25,820 --> 00:32:26,690
S9: For you uh.

737
00:32:26,690 --> 00:32:27,830
S2: Like for me personally?

738
00:32:28,130 --> 00:32:28,820
S9: Sure. I'm going for.

739
00:32:28,820 --> 00:32:29,720
S2: A total rebrand.

740
00:32:30,260 --> 00:32:32,450
S1: Um, I've been encouraging that for some time.

741
00:32:32,450 --> 00:32:33,920
S2: I know there's lots of lots of, lots of cool

742
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,800
S2: shit coming out, but I'm mostly excited about these two things. Uh,

743
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,070
S2: first one is a TV series which I've already spoken to,

744
00:32:40,070 --> 00:32:42,620
S2: I think both of you about. But Ripley, uh, so

745
00:32:42,620 --> 00:32:45,469
S2: we obviously love The Talented Mr. Ripley. The film, uh,

746
00:32:45,470 --> 00:32:49,790
S2: we all hated Saltburn. Um, but this is like a reboot, uh,

747
00:32:49,790 --> 00:32:53,690
S2: headed to Netflix, an eight part series. And it stars

748
00:32:53,690 --> 00:32:58,610
S2: Hot Priest from Fleabag, Andrew Scott, um, who is so good.

749
00:32:58,610 --> 00:33:02,810
S2: So basically, this is based on Patricia Highsmith's 1955 novel. Um,

750
00:33:02,810 --> 00:33:05,750
S2: it's set in New York in the 1960s. Tom Ripley

751
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:07,730
S2: is hired by a wealthy man to convince his wayward

752
00:33:07,730 --> 00:33:10,610
S2: son to return home from Italy. But Tom's introduction to Dickie,

753
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,860
S2: of course, um, played by Jude Law in the film

754
00:33:13,130 --> 00:33:15,950
S2: and his life abroad, kind of then kicks off this complex,

755
00:33:15,950 --> 00:33:18,680
S2: you know, life of deceit. It's got Andrew Scott, as

756
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,080
S2: I mentioned, uh, as well as Johnny Flynn and then

757
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,620
S2: Dakota Fanning. So great cast. Uh, they, you know, Vanity Fair,

758
00:33:24,620 --> 00:33:26,720
S2: just the last couple of weeks, released some first look photos.

759
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,060
S2: The whole thing's in black and white. So I think

760
00:33:29,060 --> 00:33:31,010
S2: it's going to be great. I think it's maybe going

761
00:33:31,010 --> 00:33:31,460
S2: to come late.

762
00:33:31,460 --> 00:33:34,790
S1: 2024 black and white. Feels like a big call.

763
00:33:34,790 --> 00:33:37,520
S2: Yeah, I know it does. Like one of those ones

764
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:38,840
S2: that maybe after it comes out it's like, is this

765
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,670
S2: an annoying artistic choice? And you probably didn't need to

766
00:33:40,670 --> 00:33:41,060
S2: do it.

767
00:33:41,060 --> 00:33:41,660
S9: Yeah, particularly.

768
00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:43,940
S1: Like lush scenes and beautiful people like you want to

769
00:33:43,940 --> 00:33:44,870
S1: see the color, right?

770
00:33:44,870 --> 00:33:47,210
S3: The whole thing about Talented Mr. Ripley that everyone loved

771
00:33:47,210 --> 00:33:50,480
S3: was the beautiful Italian kind of, uh, countryside.

772
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:50,960
S9: Yeah.

773
00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:52,760
S3: The sunlight, the sunset.

774
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,180
S9: Yeah.

775
00:33:53,180 --> 00:33:55,220
S2: I get the feeling it's going to be darker. Um,

776
00:33:55,220 --> 00:33:58,820
S2: speaking of darker, uh, the my other pic is Civil War.

777
00:33:58,820 --> 00:34:02,600
S2: So you guys across this new A24 film. So it's

778
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,970
S2: from Alex Garland, obviously. Mel, you would know him from

779
00:34:04,970 --> 00:34:09,020
S2: riding the beach, but he also he also directed Ex Machina,

780
00:34:09,020 --> 00:34:12,920
S2: Annihilation and Men. This film looks fucking amazing. So basically

781
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,540
S2: the plot has been kind of kept under wraps, but

782
00:34:14,660 --> 00:34:17,630
S2: we find America on the brink of civil war. Um,

783
00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:20,060
S2: and you've got like a really good car. So Nick

784
00:34:20,060 --> 00:34:22,790
S2: Offerman plays the president, who I think is basically going

785
00:34:22,790 --> 00:34:25,820
S2: to be like a Trump esque style president.

786
00:34:26,030 --> 00:34:27,680
S3: You've got Ron Swanson. Yeah.

787
00:34:28,340 --> 00:34:30,320
S2: You've got the mustache for it. And then you've got

788
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,509
S2: Kirsten Dunst playing a journalist who was swept up in

789
00:34:32,510 --> 00:34:34,190
S2: a riot, which I think is meant to be like

790
00:34:34,190 --> 00:34:36,740
S2: a kind of mirror of the Capitol riots. And you've

791
00:34:36,739 --> 00:34:39,080
S2: also got Jesse Plemons playing a kind of, like, right

792
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,510
S2: wing nutjob. Um, so I think it feels very meta,

793
00:34:41,510 --> 00:34:43,969
S2: very of the time. And also, you know, I think

794
00:34:43,969 --> 00:34:47,479
S2: we can all agree A24 always worth checking out their stuff. So, yeah,

795
00:34:47,510 --> 00:34:50,750
S2: big wraps on this one coming in 2024, that Civil War.

796
00:34:50,750 --> 00:34:52,279
S1: Well, I wanted to ask you, actually, I know you're

797
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,350
S1: a big fan of A24. You have an A24 shirt.

798
00:34:54,350 --> 00:34:56,150
S1: I often talk about their movies. How do you feel?

799
00:34:56,150 --> 00:34:58,340
S1: I Rob and I were talking about this. The momentum

800
00:34:58,340 --> 00:35:00,799
S1: is kind of shifting against A24 now. Yeah.

801
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,379
S2: They have. I'm so glad I spent $80 us on

802
00:35:03,380 --> 00:35:05,600
S2: the t shirt and shipping. Um.

803
00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:08,380
S9: It's good. Actually, it's going.

804
00:35:08,380 --> 00:35:10,899
S3: To be the year eight, 24 and 24.

805
00:35:10,930 --> 00:35:12,640
S2: I know now I know what you mean, I feel like,

806
00:35:13,060 --> 00:35:14,980
S2: but this is the thing, obviously, whenever you have like

807
00:35:14,980 --> 00:35:17,170
S2: so much success, they crushed it last year and also

808
00:35:17,170 --> 00:35:18,609
S2: like they still had a really good year. Beef was

809
00:35:18,610 --> 00:35:20,080
S2: like one of the best TV shows of the year.

810
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,750
S2: Inevitably you're going to start to slip. I still am

811
00:35:22,750 --> 00:35:25,390
S2: going to be like, I'm an A24 fanboy. And yeah,

812
00:35:25,390 --> 00:35:27,940
S2: so yeah, no use trying to talk me out of it. Yeah.

813
00:35:28,630 --> 00:35:29,200
S9: Yeah.

814
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,330
S3: When you have so much success, people would definitely want

815
00:35:31,330 --> 00:35:32,439
S3: to see you fail. Exactly.

816
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:32,919
S9: Yeah, yeah.

817
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,740
S1: Good, good. You stand by you. You stand by you A24.

818
00:35:35,739 --> 00:35:39,069
S1: I'm happy for you. Um, my, um, the one I'm

819
00:35:39,070 --> 00:35:42,009
S1: looking forward to in 2024. Dua Lipa's album. I'm a

820
00:35:42,010 --> 00:35:44,799
S1: big fan of Dua Lipa. It's so fun. I think

821
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,050
S1: she's fun and funny. She she runs a book club.

822
00:35:47,050 --> 00:35:49,330
S1: I should probably get in on that, right? Um, yeah.

823
00:35:49,330 --> 00:35:50,950
S1: So I'm looking forward to her new album, like to

824
00:35:50,950 --> 00:35:53,020
S1: stuff on Barbie. And she released a new single, which

825
00:35:53,020 --> 00:35:56,170
S1: I didn't think was that amazing. But, you know, I

826
00:35:56,170 --> 00:35:57,400
S1: still like the vibes produced.

827
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,530
S3: By, uh, Kevin Parker, Tame Impala.

828
00:35:59,530 --> 00:36:00,730
S9: Oh, really? Yes.

829
00:36:01,090 --> 00:36:02,740
S1: But, uh, yeah. So I think that will be good.

830
00:36:02,739 --> 00:36:06,460
S1: But also there's some few, like, few lady writers that are.

831
00:36:06,460 --> 00:36:10,719
S9: Here we go, boys. Trap in. All right.

832
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,410
S1: Well, yeah. 24 year old, um, Leslie Jamison has a

833
00:36:14,410 --> 00:36:16,629
S1: new book coming out, Maggie Nelson. These are all kind

834
00:36:16,630 --> 00:36:19,960
S1: of they they write memoir crossed with social analysis and

835
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,870
S1: cultural analysis. I think both of those books will be great.

836
00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:26,140
S1: And Miranda July also has her first novel in a decade,

837
00:36:26,140 --> 00:36:28,569
S1: coming out first. Bad man was her last novel. It's

838
00:36:28,570 --> 00:36:32,770
S1: really kooky, quirky book about a woman. Hard to describe, but, um,

839
00:36:32,770 --> 00:36:33,520
S1: I read that book.

840
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,469
S9: Did? Yeah. Did you like it? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

841
00:36:35,469 --> 00:36:37,450
S1: I thought that would be up your alley. Um, but. Yes.

842
00:36:37,450 --> 00:36:39,040
S1: So I'm excited to see her new one. Are you

843
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,330
S1: a fan of Miranda July?

844
00:36:41,250 --> 00:36:43,680
S3: I haven't read a books, but I know her movies.

845
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,510
S3: Kajillionaire masterpieces.

846
00:36:45,570 --> 00:36:47,280
S9: Yeah yeah yeah yeah, totally. I must have.

847
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,710
S2: Been on the way in to record this podcast. I panicked,

848
00:36:49,710 --> 00:36:53,520
S2: googled Sally Rooney new book 2020 for nothing coming, so

849
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,719
S2: I can't recommend that.

850
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:55,589
S1: Taking a break.

851
00:36:55,590 --> 00:36:56,070
S9: Yes.

852
00:36:56,790 --> 00:37:00,690
S1: Um, well, let us move on to our final Impress

853
00:37:00,690 --> 00:37:04,410
S1: Your Friends of the year. These are our recommendations that

854
00:37:04,410 --> 00:37:06,180
S1: we give to you that you can kind of. Well,

855
00:37:06,180 --> 00:37:08,790
S1: as the name says, impress your friends. Rob, what are

856
00:37:08,790 --> 00:37:10,080
S1: you impressing us with?

857
00:37:10,590 --> 00:37:14,490
S3: Okay, uh, this week I watched The Holdovers. Um, it's

858
00:37:14,489 --> 00:37:20,640
S3: Paul Giamatti and Alexander Payne reuniting 20 something years after sideways. Uh,

859
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,450
S3: everyone remembers sideways. Uh, it's the movie that single handedly

860
00:37:24,450 --> 00:37:25,560
S3: killed Merlot.

861
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,029
S9: Um, what is it?

862
00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:29,400
S1: What's the quiet? No fucking Merlot or something?

863
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,390
S9: Yeah, exactly.

864
00:37:31,140 --> 00:37:34,560
S3: Um, they're a good pair. Payne's got that deadpan humor,

865
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,130
S3: and Giamatti plays like a misanthrope. Uh, he plays a

866
00:37:38,130 --> 00:37:39,120
S3: boarding school teacher and.

867
00:37:39,390 --> 00:37:40,800
S1: Ever not play a misanthrope.

868
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,020
S3: I didn't know too much of his work outside of

869
00:37:43,020 --> 00:37:46,530
S3: Alexander Payne, so, um, I feel like he's always kind

870
00:37:46,530 --> 00:37:48,900
S3: of that dowdy, uh, kind of.

871
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:49,830
S9: Depressed.

872
00:37:50,130 --> 00:37:53,819
S3: Old man. Yeah. Um, anyway, if you like 70s movies

873
00:37:53,820 --> 00:37:56,820
S3: like Harold and Maude, uh, or movies with lots of

874
00:37:56,820 --> 00:38:00,930
S3: brown suits, um, or like Cat Stevens on the soundtrack,

875
00:38:00,930 --> 00:38:04,020
S3: I love cats. Yeah. This is your thing. Uh, and,

876
00:38:04,020 --> 00:38:07,140
S3: you know, in movie credits where they, uh, list the

877
00:38:07,140 --> 00:38:10,110
S3: date it was released or made in Roman numerals. Yes.

878
00:38:10,110 --> 00:38:15,420
S3: This one has MCM LXI, which, if my, uh, Roman

879
00:38:15,420 --> 00:38:19,620
S3: counting is correct, is 1971. So they're in on the

880
00:38:19,620 --> 00:38:20,430
S3: joke a bit.

881
00:38:20,730 --> 00:38:21,209
S9: Well, anyway.

882
00:38:21,510 --> 00:38:24,300
S3: It's out Jan 11, so a good holiday viewing. I

883
00:38:24,300 --> 00:38:24,569
S3: have seen.

884
00:38:24,570 --> 00:38:26,160
S1: It. It's been released overseas and it has been on

885
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,979
S1: heaps of, um, best of the year film list, so

886
00:38:28,980 --> 00:38:31,859
S1: I'm very much looking forward to that. Um, Thomas, would

887
00:38:31,860 --> 00:38:34,230
S1: you like to attempt to impress me for once? Uh.

888
00:38:34,860 --> 00:38:38,040
S2: I mean, you can't be impressed because you've long given

889
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,140
S2: up being impressed by other people because you're only impressed

890
00:38:40,140 --> 00:38:43,710
S2: by yourself. But my one is not as, like, probably

891
00:38:43,710 --> 00:38:47,129
S2: as highbrow as Rob's. But I really enjoyed season two

892
00:38:47,130 --> 00:38:49,800
S2: of Doctor Death. That's on Stan. So do you guys

893
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,509
S2: watch the first season of Doctor Death? They're based on

894
00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:54,270
S2: the Wondery podcast. So basically it's, you know, these true

895
00:38:54,300 --> 00:38:58,140
S2: stories of, you know, I guess, like controversial, possibly illegal

896
00:38:58,140 --> 00:39:02,310
S2: famous surgeons who have, you know, done huge amounts of malpractice.

897
00:39:02,310 --> 00:39:05,070
S2: The first season had Joshua Jackson, uh, season two stars,

898
00:39:05,070 --> 00:39:08,820
S2: Edgar Ramirez, you guys probably both know. And then more importantly,

899
00:39:08,820 --> 00:39:11,460
S2: singer songwriter actress Mandy Moore.

900
00:39:12,060 --> 00:39:12,390
S9: Wow.

901
00:39:12,420 --> 00:39:13,740
S2: You have to remember.

902
00:39:13,739 --> 00:39:14,550
S1: I surely.

903
00:39:14,550 --> 00:39:15,360
S9: Do, yes.

904
00:39:15,630 --> 00:39:18,600
S2: But the actual Wondery podcast is great. So this is

905
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,840
S2: based on a real man, Paolo Macchiarini, who was named

906
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,270
S2: The Miracle Man. A charming surgeon like we all know

907
00:39:24,270 --> 00:39:26,910
S2: this story, particularly here in Australia, a charming surgeon who's,

908
00:39:26,910 --> 00:39:28,890
S2: you know, the kind of rogue guy who only does

909
00:39:28,890 --> 00:39:31,260
S2: these type of life changing operations that no one else

910
00:39:31,260 --> 00:39:34,320
S2: will do. Uh, but Mandy Moore plays an investigative journalist

911
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,510
S2: who starts to kind of look into him, but then

912
00:39:36,510 --> 00:39:38,910
S2: also falls under his spell, and then line starts to

913
00:39:38,910 --> 00:39:42,420
S2: blur professional ethics out the window. But then she also

914
00:39:42,420 --> 00:39:45,000
S2: realizes he perhaps is not who he says he is. Uh,

915
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,550
S2: it was really, really good. Better than season one, I think.

916
00:39:47,550 --> 00:39:49,470
S2: And again, I think in this time of the year

917
00:39:49,469 --> 00:39:52,890
S2: it's nice to just like indulge. It's, it's, it's semi trash,

918
00:39:52,890 --> 00:39:54,960
S2: but it's like nice to indulge in that type of thing.

919
00:39:55,110 --> 00:39:56,730
S2: So that's Doctor Death on Stan.

920
00:39:56,850 --> 00:39:59,190
S1: Oh very good I like that. And um, I've got

921
00:39:59,190 --> 00:40:00,900
S1: a podcast. I think it's the first time I've mentioned

922
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:02,549
S1: a podcast in this section. You can't mention.

923
00:40:02,550 --> 00:40:05,850
S2: Another podcast unless it's. Please explain, which is so good.

924
00:40:05,850 --> 00:40:06,660
S9: Yeah, we love that.

925
00:40:06,660 --> 00:40:09,810
S1: Well, well-produced. Yeah. Um, have you are you guys across

926
00:40:09,810 --> 00:40:10,830
S1: Esta Perel.

927
00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:11,850
S9: Of course. Yeah.

928
00:40:11,850 --> 00:40:15,030
S1: The psychologist. So this real like, pop psychologist figure who

929
00:40:15,030 --> 00:40:17,129
S1: I feel she's on every podcast ever at the moment.

930
00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:18,720
S2: She also makes a cameo in season three of The

931
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:19,319
S2: Morning Show.

932
00:40:19,350 --> 00:40:19,529
S9: Oh.

933
00:40:19,530 --> 00:40:23,040
S1: Does she as a guest. Yeah. Good. Um, who is

934
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,850
S1: a couples therapist and kind of does talk therapy and, um,

935
00:40:26,850 --> 00:40:28,710
S1: really gets into the weeds with couples, but she's got

936
00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:32,700
S1: a podcast where she recalls the sessions with the couples

937
00:40:32,700 --> 00:40:34,860
S1: as she tries to figure out their problems and help

938
00:40:34,860 --> 00:40:38,129
S1: them see each other in different ways. Um, well, there's

939
00:40:38,130 --> 00:40:41,520
S1: a very funny spoof of that Amy Poehler's podcast, Say

940
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,970
S1: More with Doctor Sheila. Next question mark above. The doctor

941
00:40:44,969 --> 00:40:48,509
S1: will be sat next to the doctor. She plays a

942
00:40:48,510 --> 00:40:53,759
S1: therapist and she interviews, um, actors who play the couples.

943
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,550
S1: And it's all improvised. So like, we've got guests like

944
00:40:56,550 --> 00:41:01,290
S1: Tina Fey, John Earley, Abbi Jacobson, Kate Berlant, Janine Brito,

945
00:41:01,290 --> 00:41:03,870
S1: so really funny people playing the couples, and she kind

946
00:41:03,870 --> 00:41:06,600
S1: of sets them up and they go off like kind

947
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,480
S1: of on their tangents. It's a really, really funny podcast,

948
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:10,680
S1: like just a good time.

949
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,320
S2: Listen, I'm shocked she got Tina Fey. That must have

950
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:14,279
S2: been a hard get for her.

951
00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:15,120
S9: Good.

952
00:41:15,690 --> 00:41:17,640
S1: Um, good. I think you could learn a lot from

953
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:18,330
S1: it personally.

954
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:18,780
S9: Yes.

955
00:41:18,780 --> 00:41:20,580
S2: I think we should go. You and I probably need

956
00:41:20,580 --> 00:41:23,040
S2: to go on a podcast and unpack our relationship. So you're.

957
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:23,730
S9: Gonna say we need to go.

958
00:41:23,730 --> 00:41:24,299
S1: On to say a.

959
00:41:24,300 --> 00:41:25,200
S9: Therapist?

960
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,700
S2: Well, either that or a podcast.

961
00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:31,110
S1: Well, I mean, we have that, so. Well, that's it guys.

962
00:41:31,110 --> 00:41:34,560
S1: That's our last the drop for the year. Thank you

963
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,779
S1: so much for being part of the inaugural awards. Any

964
00:41:36,780 --> 00:41:37,830
S1: feedback for next year?

965
00:41:38,969 --> 00:41:40,500
S2: It was that perfectly oiled machine I think.

966
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,570
S1: Good. Great reviews. Well, um, have a great new year

967
00:41:43,570 --> 00:41:45,790
S1: and we'll be back in 2024 to do this whole

968
00:41:45,790 --> 00:41:47,440
S1: thing all over again.

969
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:48,219
S2: Looking forward to it.

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00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:57,780
S1: This episode of The Drop was produced by Kai Wong.

971
00:41:57,870 --> 00:42:00,360
S1: If you enjoyed listening to today's episode of The Drop,

972
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,700
S1: make sure to follow us on your favorite podcast app.

973
00:42:02,700 --> 00:42:05,070
S1: Leave us a review or better yet, share the episode

974
00:42:05,070 --> 00:42:08,250
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