WEBVTT - 'Disgusting' – Elliott slams Bowen for Pasta disaster

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<v Speaker 1>On Sydney. Now you can't handle the truth the straight shooters. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm a member of state, home of course is

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<v Speaker 1>my strat here on Thursday aufternoon, David Early, have I David,

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<v Speaker 1>does a sense emotion actually really mean anything? When it

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<v Speaker 1>comes down to it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's embarrassing. But SA fifty two are the opposition's best warfare.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean I had them every day, I think

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<v Speaker 2>I had. I had my own my own locker down

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<v Speaker 2>there at the SA fifty two processing plan. I was

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<v Speaker 2>getting them so often. But it's been embarrassing and that,

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<v Speaker 2>of course they can use that to then springboard other

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<v Speaker 2>discipline reaction against Penny Sharp.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a bit of a slap on a wrist

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<v Speaker 1>though is no sense of motion?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like a motion and no confidence amended. She

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have to resign or anything, but not unless she

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<v Speaker 2>was the premiere. But it does highlight the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>are the concerns that were floating around Macquarie Street twolve

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<v Speaker 2>months ago that the that Ben Franklin going to the

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<v Speaker 2>presidency would mean that they couldn't get any sense of

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<v Speaker 2>motions or fifty two through. That's obviously not correct and

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<v Speaker 2>it's clear that the cross benches are not going to

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily play ball with the government.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's quite a clear vote there is. It's twenty

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<v Speaker 1>in favor of fourteen against. Of course, the government doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>hold the numbers in the upper House.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, and it would be and Penny would be

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<v Speaker 2>furious that the Greens have sided with the Liberal Party

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<v Speaker 2>over that one. I'm quite sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is where you don't have a premier censured

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<v Speaker 1>will be very rare because what they do have for

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<v Speaker 1>a minority in the lower House, but they have the

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<v Speaker 1>support of the Independence So.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, and that only really, I mean essential motion

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<v Speaker 2>is embarrassing and the Premier would probably have to explain

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<v Speaker 2>to the governor why he still has confidence in the House.

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<v Speaker 2>I could happened to Chris Mins, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, it looks the big political issue of the

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<v Speaker 1>weekend in state politics has been the failure of the

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<v Speaker 1>ATC to sell off Rose Hill attract majority support. And

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<v Speaker 1>we thought this was going to happen. But it's not

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<v Speaker 1>great for Chris Mins because he'd been very much a

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<v Speaker 1>support of this plan.

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<v Speaker 2>We he has and it's back to the drawing board,

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<v Speaker 2>but he always gave himself a little I felt he

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<v Speaker 2>always gave himself a little bit of wiggle room. I

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<v Speaker 2>know my side of politic things that it's humiliating for him,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think he gave himself. But it's just as

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<v Speaker 2>he said, he's got a plan being he needs to

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<v Speaker 2>go to that plan. Being as I said when I

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<v Speaker 2>was Minister for Corrections, I don't know why there are

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<v Speaker 2>prisoners living at Long Bay Jail. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>people convicted felons are at waterfront real estate. So if

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to look anywhere, and I saw some dribble

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<v Speaker 2>today in the media about oh, but there's no other

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<v Speaker 2>site within twenty kilometers of Sydney, Well there is. It's

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<v Speaker 2>called Long Bay Jail, and Bob Carr looked at getting

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<v Speaker 2>rid of it when he was premier and they were

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<v Speaker 2>going to give it over to the Disney Corporation, which

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<v Speaker 2>I thought would have been great. But there's been a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of work done by Corrections to look at

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<v Speaker 2>Long Bay Jail and I think with a light rail

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<v Speaker 2>extension down there, it would be magnificent. Now Michael Day

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<v Speaker 2>is completely opposed to it. He's worried too many Tories

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<v Speaker 2>or move into his constituency. But I think if we

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<v Speaker 2>get the balance right, we could probably start working there.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. I'm really glad you've raised this idea because I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't heard this idea for years. Yeah, it's popped up

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<v Speaker 1>in the past, but the suggestion in some of the

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<v Speaker 1>papers this morning was there could be parts of Homebush

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<v Speaker 1>Sydney Hpey Park that could be developed for twenty thousand home.

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<v Speaker 1>There'll be a metro station there, and Glee Island's been

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<v Speaker 1>discussed for new housing. But this is a cracker, So

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<v Speaker 1>everyone just think about this. We've got the state's worst

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<v Speaker 1>of the worst living in waterfront property at Long Bay. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're in your cell, you don't look out the

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<v Speaker 1>window and cast your eyes over the ocean. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is absolute prime real estate. And I see no reason

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<v Speaker 1>why we couldn't invest in building a massive prison out

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<v Speaker 1>in the back of Burke, ship them all out there

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<v Speaker 1>and then sell off the land.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, it's a neigh brain. And I mean, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>there's some heritage facilities considerations around Long Bar, but you'd

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<v Speaker 2>include that in the development. The prisoners, You're right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the prisoners can go in the peri urban districts, or

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<v Speaker 2>they could go out to expand Baptist Jail or expand

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<v Speaker 2>Lithgo jail, and it creates jobs in regional areas. And

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<v Speaker 2>it is a no brainer. And I would very much

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<v Speaker 2>encourage Chrismians and Mark Speakman to consider go back to

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<v Speaker 2>those plans that we had drafted up over Long Bar

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<v Speaker 2>Jail and stop spending money on what is essentially a

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<v Speaker 2>piecemeal prison it's and spend some money on something that

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<v Speaker 2>is going to give them a significant value for value

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<v Speaker 2>to And of course, when you're building new jail, you

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<v Speaker 2>build it for the modern criminal, the modern criminal rehabilitation,

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<v Speaker 2>and Long Bay doesn't have all those facilities.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an absolute no brainer and I can't believe it

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been on the agenda. Just think about it. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got how many people be in Long Bay? How many

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<v Speaker 1>prison a couple of hours one thousand, I'd say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you've got a thousand. You've got a thousand living

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<v Speaker 1>in prime Sydney real estate. Is the argument against doing

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<v Speaker 1>it that the families of the prisoners would have a

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<v Speaker 1>long way to travel to go and visit them.

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<v Speaker 2>You do have that, but you know, but when they

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<v Speaker 2>place a prisoner, they don't necessarily think about where mum's

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<v Speaker 2>coming from to come on Saturday afternoon to bring a

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<v Speaker 2>cake with a file in it. I mean, it's where

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<v Speaker 2>we It's where the prison, the prison officers live. And

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<v Speaker 2>when I've been down there when I was a prison's

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<v Speaker 2>I spent a lot of time at Long Bay Jail.

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<v Speaker 2>But I interviewed the prison officers when I had this

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<v Speaker 2>in the back of my mind, and most of them

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<v Speaker 2>are commuting from Woo, commuting from Campbelltown. So if you

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<v Speaker 2>said to them, you know, we're going to put it in,

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<v Speaker 2>you know on the outskirts of Sydney that nobody had

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<v Speaker 2>complained about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a pretty big area there. You could build

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<v Speaker 1>a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of units there and it's got and just extend the

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<v Speaker 2>light rail.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is a lot cheaper than an underground metro.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot cheaper than a metro.

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<v Speaker 1>Take Stewart Airs came out today, your former colleague in

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<v Speaker 1>his new capacity, and he said, look, we made a

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<v Speaker 1>mistake by not having a metro station between Sydney Park

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<v Speaker 1>and Parramatta. What is your view.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not accepting that because when we made that consideration,

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't think that rose Hill would be developed, so

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't a mistake at the time. In hindsight, if

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<v Speaker 2>rose Hill was going to go ahead, well then we

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<v Speaker 2>could say, yeah, we made a mistake. We probably should

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<v Speaker 2>have put this on the radar in the beginning, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was never It was never a consideration when we

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<v Speaker 2>were dropping the stations on that metro.

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<v Speaker 1>The issue that's really got you angry this week is

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Bowen eating during Mass.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not Catholic, but I got that photo on

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday Sunday night from people that were there, and my

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<v Speaker 2>blood boiled. I thought that was the most disrespectful thing

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<v Speaker 2>anybody could do. He would not do it in a mosque,

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<v Speaker 2>and he certainly wouldn't do it in a temple, or

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<v Speaker 2>he certainly wouldn't do it in a synagogue. But he

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<v Speaker 2>feels that he can do it in front of the

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<v Speaker 2>Catholic community in his own electorate, who I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 2>won't let him forget about it. Now. I've seen that

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<v Speaker 2>invitation that he received. It clearly says eleven am Mass,

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<v Speaker 2>at twelve o'clock, there'll be there'll be light refreshments. So

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<v Speaker 2>if he was hungry, he could have been like everybody

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<v Speaker 2>or the rest of us just wait until after the

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<v Speaker 2>search service was finished.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got the invitation here in front of me, Club

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<v Speaker 1>Marconi commemorating Italian Republic Day, eleven am Commemorative Mass, twelve

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<v Speaker 1>pm opening serony followed by light refreshments. And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like the event was being held. The mass was being

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<v Speaker 1>held at meal time.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, maybe he's used a very early lunch at

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<v Speaker 1>eleven o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is the Hubris that you and I spoke

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<v Speaker 2>about on the election night, and Chris Bowen is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be I don't know him, I've never met him.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in the Jason Clair fashion of the Labor Party

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to Southwestern Sydney. I think he's one

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<v Speaker 2>that should be given the tough jobs. But I just

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<v Speaker 2>feel that what Chris has done and his lame excuse

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<v Speaker 2>that he didn't know that was a mass, well, you

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<v Speaker 2>were sitting there in front of a priest. And again

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not jumping on the high horse because I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>a Catholic, but I do have enough respect for people's

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<v Speaker 2>faith to think that a member of Parliament, Minister of

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<v Speaker 2>the Crown not less, would not only treat his constituents

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<v Speaker 2>like that, but then try to lie about it, which

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<v Speaker 2>I thought was disgraceful.

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<v Speaker 1>We spoke about Hubri's on election that this was the

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<v Speaker 1>big danger. So that's one example. I'll just play you this.

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<v Speaker 1>You may not have heard this. This is another example

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<v Speaker 1>I think of Hubris.

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<v Speaker 3>Just a fun fact that's been drawn to my attention

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<v Speaker 3>is that there are more women whose name begins with

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<v Speaker 3>A in the Labor Party caucus in the House of Representatives.

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<v Speaker 3>Ten then there will be nine coalition women in the

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<v Speaker 3>floor on the floor of the House of Representatives, in

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<v Speaker 3>the Liberal Party and the National Party combined with Anika Here,

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<v Speaker 3>Anna Lee, Ailey France who's here, Alisha Payne, Alice Jordan Baird,

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<v Speaker 3>ash Amberja Paha and Stanley Alison Burns, ann Erkkart and

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<v Speaker 3>Amanda Rishworth.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an example of humorous.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean the lovies for Labour are going to

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<v Speaker 2>stand up and say, is this fantastic? You know, we've

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<v Speaker 2>got more women than the opposition have got at twice

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<v Speaker 2>as many, but they've also got more than twice the

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<v Speaker 2>number of seats that the coalition's got. So let's marry

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<v Speaker 2>it all up. And I think I think, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the proof's going to be in the pudding for a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of those a lot of those new MPs and

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<v Speaker 2>new ministers. I wouldn't be putting playing the gender card

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<v Speaker 2>too close because I think that he's going to find

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<v Speaker 2>that some of those people embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of feedback here to the idea,

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<v Speaker 1>to the proposal to sell and it's not actually on

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<v Speaker 1>the agenda at the moment. We're just raising it this afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>but to redevelop Longbow Jail for housing Michelle and the

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<v Speaker 1>text and says I do have a family member that

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<v Speaker 1>is in cars rated. He is in Grafton, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a six hour drive. If you want to visit an inmate,

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<v Speaker 1>you will travel. That's right, okay. Harry is a former

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<v Speaker 1>Ranwick counselor diet I Harry good.

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<v Speaker 4>He how are you going good? Yeah, that's good. Look

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<v Speaker 4>Back in twenty thirteen I raised this issue in council

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<v Speaker 4>and we wrote to Greg Smith at the time, who

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<v Speaker 4>was the Attorney General here in New South Wales, and

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<v Speaker 4>I mentioned to him that this would be a very

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<v Speaker 4>very good idea. We're talking about ninety acres of prime

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<v Speaker 4>real estate right in the heart of or very close

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<v Speaker 4>to the city center. And you know, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 4>agree wholeheartedly with what David raised. I raised these issues

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<v Speaker 4>earlier that you know, why would you give them prime

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<v Speaker 4>real estate, would you? Why wouldn't you relocate the jail

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<v Speaker 4>into regional areas and create more jobs out there, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think it's a no brainer. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>we're talking about you know, a lot of heritage buildings

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<v Speaker 4>there which could be preserved. You don't necessarily have to

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<v Speaker 4>go massive high rise there. I mean, I don't understand

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<v Speaker 4>why labor got rid of It's Henry. You know, why

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<v Speaker 4>would you get rid of a hospital that's been used

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<v Speaker 4>primarily by everybody and not get rid of the jail.

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<v Speaker 1>So a long time ago Prince Henry disappeared.

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<v Speaker 2>But agree, Yeah, well, Harry's right. And the political problem

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<v Speaker 2>that Chris had was that Chris Men's had everybody loved

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<v Speaker 2>Rose Hill, which in western Sydney a lot of people do.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody loves the prison. Nobody loves so he's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to have any He's not going to be facing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the prison's way be given a vote, will by.

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<v Speaker 2>No that won't be given a vote on it. With

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<v Speaker 2>the exemption of Michael daily who loves it being there

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<v Speaker 2>for various reasons. Nobody is going to be chaining themselves

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<v Speaker 2>to the front gates of Long Bay Jail saying let's

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<v Speaker 2>let's save the jail.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair point here from Angela. On the text line, Angelo says,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a prison officer. We can't get staff to go

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<v Speaker 1>out west, but Picton would be a.

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<v Speaker 2>Good vitue because they do. They can do the long

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<v Speaker 2>shifts and they you know, and I mean most prison

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<v Speaker 2>officers that I work with are very, very dedicated to

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<v Speaker 2>their job and if they get posted somewhere which is

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit longer to commute, they'll do it because

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<v Speaker 2>they are you know, they're company people.

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<v Speaker 1>Shadow Ministry announced yesterday by Susan Lee. What are your impressions, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's early days, bumby start. I did take

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<v Speaker 1>offense to the fact that Michael McCormack was removed. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that he had a three percent swing to him

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<v Speaker 1>at a time when people were having double digit swings

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<v Speaker 1>against them. But I got to say, as a proud Westy,

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<v Speaker 1>giving a millionaire, middle class senator like Andrew Bragg, who

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<v Speaker 1>as the homelessness portfolio doesn't sit comfortably with me and

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<v Speaker 1>this is the guy that campaigned on quotas for women

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<v Speaker 1>in Parliament and then knife Holly Hughes to get his

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<v Speaker 1>spum back into the Senate. I'm not comfortable with it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping that I'm going to be wrong, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>horses for courses here. But you know, I think having

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<v Speaker 1>I think Andrew Hasting and Home Affairs is good. Love

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<v Speaker 1>seeing Alex Hawk back. If they listened to him a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more during the campaign, we wouldn't have lost

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<v Speaker 1>as many seats and vote in Western Sydney. And of

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<v Speaker 1>course I think you know Susan has proven herself to

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<v Speaker 1>be a very even keeled candidate for the prime Mishi,

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<v Speaker 1>We're almost at a time tomorrow your column the Telegraph

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<v Speaker 1>will feature the best country towns.

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<v Speaker 2>Best Country Towns tomorrow. I've been English once and I've

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<v Speaker 2>spoken as Steve Camper, who's given me permission to quote him.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're going to spend the long weekend next weekend

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<v Speaker 2>in regional New South Wales. And I've got a saucy

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<v Speaker 2>little story about Tamworth when I went there.

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<v Speaker 1>And saucy story, A little saucy story.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I went out there to Tamworth with Kevin Anderson

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<v Speaker 2>once and I was at a function that started mouthing

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<v Speaker 2>off and boasting about I had a teenage romance in

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<v Speaker 2>Tamworth and I loved coming to Tamworth with those memories.

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<v Speaker 2>And it turned out it was old mates, missus since

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<v Speaker 2>since since I'd lost communication with that young teenage lady,

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<v Speaker 2>she'd married the bloke I was boasting about. So just

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<v Speaker 2>goes to show. My mother said, never talk about six

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<v Speaker 2>politics of religion, and we've done all three of them today.

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<v Speaker 1>Mates, we'll read about it tomorrow. And the Telly