WEBVTT - Weekends with Luke Grant - Sunday 22 June 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:07.160 Across Australia. 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:10.320 This is Weekends with Luke Grant. 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:14.360 But you gotta keep your head up then you can 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:15.280 let your hand up. 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:17.479 You gotta keep. 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:20.000 Your head up and you can let. 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:20.640 Your hand up. 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:27.200 I know it's hard, No, it's hard to remember sometimes, but. 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:30.600 You gotta keep your head up then you can let 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:35.200 your hand Downy. 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:36.760 Good morning, Welcome to Weekends with Luke Grant. Great to 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:38.880 be with you on two GB in Sydney, four BC 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:41.680 in Brisbane and via the two GB app and the 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:45.960 four BC app for listeners all around Australia. On Sunday morning, 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:48.400 June twenty two. I hope you're having a great weekend 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:51.720 so far. Another cracking start to the day in Sydney 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:55.280 and still some wet weather around in Brisbane today officially 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:58.640 Sydney and mostly sunny day after the early morning fog 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:02.560 or Froster Top and city of nineteen Penrith nineteen Paramounta 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:05.840 nineteen Bondye and along the coast about eight en degrees 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:09.039 and in Brisbane medium chance of showers, light winds. I 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:12.160 become east of southeasterly around the middle of the day 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:15.800 twenty two in Brisbane twenty two at the Airport twenty four, Ipswich, 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:19.520 twenty three at the Gold Coast twenty three at the 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:23.600 Sunshine Coast Look. Yesterday was the winter solstice, and I 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:26.640 was alerted by my colleague Brian Wilson of three aw 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:29.080 late in the show of an event. To be honest, 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:32.360 I've never heard of how about this? Are you one 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:38.200 of these kinds of humans? Wearing nothing but red swim caps? 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:47.559 Three thousand souls took the annual nude sunrise plunge into 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:51.880 Hobart's River Dermot to mark the winter solstice. You know, 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:55.320 there are other ways to do it, like you say, hey, 0:01:55.520 --> 0:02:01.960 it's the winter'sassus they or you can dude up and 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:05.280 jump in the water now, as it turns out, Because 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:10.200 I know you've come to expect you've come to expect 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:16.120 a certain level of excellence around this show, right, I 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:19.520 know that, And it weighs heavily upon all of us 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:22.320 that when we sit down, when we start working here 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.200 on the weekends, just after two o'clock on Saturday or 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:29.400 Sunday morning, right just after six, we put our heads 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.320 together and we come up with what would the listener expect? 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:38.040 In fact, that's our guiding light. What would the listener expect. 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:42.160 So when I tell you that three thousand souls took 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:48.200 to the annual nude sunrise plunge into Hobart's River Dermot 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:52.560 to mark the winter Solstice yesterday at seven forty am, 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:56.520 when the water was thirteen degrees, the listener would expect 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:58.720 that we'd be all over it. Well, as it turns out, 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:02.960 we had listener who was a part of this, and 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:07.760 they've been in touch saying good he Luke Barry here, 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:13.560 I was part of the nude Solstice swim, and for 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:19.560 your and your listeners benefit, I miked myself up. Now 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:23.840 I've not heard this yet. Barry says he wanted us 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:27.200 to understand what it was like when he nudeed up 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:32.320 and jumped in the River Dermot yesterday. So, with apologies 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:36.200 in cases off language or something inappropriate, this is what 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:44.600 we got from Barry. Ah right, fair enough. Sorry, That's 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:46.640 all I could come up with for that jumping in 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:49.440 the bloody water at seven forty it thirteen degrees to 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:52.000 mark the winter solstice. What the hell were they thinking? 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:57.800 Just say winter Solstus today? How good? Aap Reports of 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:01.360 Liz Cannard, who has been traveling around Tasmania for almost 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:04.520 four months with her husband. She says she was petrified 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:06.920 before taking the dip. You didn't have to take the dip, 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:11.160 she says. I'm not a strong swimmer and I don't 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:15.680 take my gear off for anybody. Well reassuring there, she says, 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:18.960 I've ticked off a couple of things today. Another Lizzie 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:20.840 Nash from Sydney, was also in the mood for a 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:24.159 bit of a carpe dim. She said it's about seizing 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:28.440 the moment, seizing life and being inspired. You can do 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:32.160 that with clothes on and in warm water, just saying 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:36.040 She says, this is the sort of thing that motivates 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:38.640 you don't want to do more and challenge yourself. It 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:42.640 was all inspiring. I absolutely loved it. Now the free 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:46.599 swim is part of the Dark Mofo Festival, started with 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:49.560 a few hundred participants back in twenty thirteen in Tazzy. 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:53.640 It's returned to its full glory, I'm told this year, 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:59.640 and it's had its financial worries. Well, if I might 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:03.960 just say, without stating the bleeding obvious, if your financial 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:08.760 model revolves around the success of jumping in icy waters 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:13.000 nude on the shortest day of the year working Hello, 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:20.599 just saying. University of Queensland psychologists surveyed swimmers in previous 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:23.159 years before and after they took the plants. They found 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:27.520 a significant boost in feelings of connection. Tell you what 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:31.799 I'd be connected to the heater people told us, says 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:35.640 Laura Feris, about whether they felt pain and pleasure during 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:40.280 the swim. It's an example of people seeking out aversive experiences, 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:44.120 such as eating extremely spicy food or watching horror movies. 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:50.880 This is what psychologists call benign masochism, and that could 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:54.280 be the optimal term for expeditioners at Australia's form Antarctic 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:58.160 and sub Antarctic research stations, who also celebrated the solstice 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:02.480 with a much colder traditional plunge. At the three Antarctic stations, 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:04.560 a hole is cut in the sea ice each year 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:10.240 expeditioners have a quick dip in the sub zero waters. 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:15.320 The shock is closely followed by a rush, which is 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:17.840 quickly followed by a scramble to the ladder to get 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:22.720 the hell out of there, says Morson Station leader Dave Roberts. Ironically, 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:24.920 the water is warmer than the windshills, so it's all 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:33.040 a bit confusing, but totally worth it. What about that anyway? 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:36.080 Thank goodness, were all different, right, Thank goodness, were all different. Now, 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:38.920 before we get down to our business here, I want 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:42.599 to say a very special good morning and a happy 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:48.679 fifty second wedding anniversary today to and Judy and Peter Ford. 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.480 Now I know Duty and Peter. In fact, they came 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:56.280 away with us on a cruise maybe two years ago 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:58.880 when we went to Italy in Croatia. By the way, 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:00.680 this is the time where I say, have a commercial 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:06.039 agreement with travel right anyway, Laura dobbed you in, Peter 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:09.680 and Judy. Laura, I hope you're well. My parents love 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:13.120 listening to you. We can show and appreciate your support. Well, 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:16.080 they're very good people, as are you, Laura. Good person, 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:19.400 not good people, good person. And it's an honor and 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:23.320 a pleasure to say happy fifty second wedding anniversary today 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:27.280 to Judy and Peter Ford down there near the act. 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:31.320 Have a wonderful day and thank you for listening. Lots 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.520 to talk about this story today in the news court 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:38.960 papers is extraordinary. A donor conceived Brisbane woman who has 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:44.640 seventy seven confirmed siblings has called for the urgent creation 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:48.200 of a national framework to regulate the fertility industry that 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:54.000 allowed her biological father to donate more than three hundred times. Now, 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:58.120 speaking exclusively to The Sunday Mail in Brisbane, Lindall Bubkey 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.600 opened up about discovery and she had dozens of brothers 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:04.720 and sisters across queens and New South Wales, Victoria and 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:08.880 in fact internationally, after she ordered DNA testing through a 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:15.160 genealogy company in twenty twenty two. The Lady is thirty three. 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:17.280 She said her parents revealed that she and her brother 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:21.720 were donor conceived at Queensland Fertility Group after she told 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:26.160 them she was looking into her ancestry. Just weeks later, 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:33.240 he finalized genealogy results revealed Ms Bubkey also had eleven 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:39.320 half siblings. That number is now seventy seven, with five 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:42.240 of those confirmed within the past two months, including one 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:47.839 who died in infancy. Unregulated practices met her biological father 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:52.280 donated sperm three hundred and twenty five times and was 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:55.640 paid for doing so, despite claims that donors were not 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:58.760 compensated at the time. It's a staggering number, but it's 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:04.120 very likely a significant underrepresentation of the true number of siblings. 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:06.920 I have, she said, which is well and truly likely 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:11.560 into the hundreds, and she said it could theoretically be thousands. 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:16.560 Records of Miss Bubkee's donor, conception and details about the 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:21.000 donor were destroyed, with the Queensland Fertility Group explaining to 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:24.760 her parents are lost in a flood. Mss Bubke said 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:26.640 she had to inform the clinic that she was the 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:30.760 biological daughter of the prolific donor and that she was 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:34.360 connected to a growing list of half siblings. She says, 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:35.960 when I open my phone and see I have a 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:38.760 new sibling, that is my mental state for the rest 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:41.880 of the day. It's the wondering, It's the anxiety. It's 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.720 the stress of making sure their needs are met and 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.160 that they can get the information they need, the stress 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:51.800 of do they know? It was just's waking horror. As 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:54.000 the weeks went on, and as I found more and 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:58.840 more information about the practices of Queensland Fertility Group in particular, 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:02.800 but also the clinics more broadly across the entire country, 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:07.760 she said. Learning she was donut conceived has reframed her 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:11.800 relationships and social interactions and this is a thing that 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:15.240 got me. She constantly wonders whether the next person she 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:20.120 meets could be related to her, and she says, I 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:22.120 go around, I look at people on the street, and 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:23.880 I think, I wonder if you could be my sibling. 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.120 You look like my sister, you look like my brother, 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:32.000 she said, and then she makes this point, I can 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.600 confirm my husband and I are not related, But in 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.920 those first few weeks there were the horrible thoughts of 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:41.960 what if my husband is donut conceived and we didn't 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:46.199 know what if one of my ex boyfriends is a sibling. 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:50.320 I'll only be happy once I know all of my siblings, 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.600 and I'll die unhappy then because I'll never get that. 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:55.200 There's just no way for me to ever find them 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:59.000 more because the records were destroyed. She says her story 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.240 may sound unique, but true for at leg seventy seven 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:06.679 other people. Now she wishes she knew earlier, and she 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:10.920 doesn't blame her parents who never who were never told 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:14.720 who the donor was either. She said her parents felt 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:18.559 betrayed by the clinic, having originally been told each donation 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.880 would only be used for a small number of families. 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:26.520 A Queensland Fertility Group spokesperson said they were aware of 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:32.920 Miss Bubkee's circumstances and strongly supported establishing a national donor 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:39.160 Conception registry. They said today's donor conception legislation prohibits anonymous donation, 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:45.319 and newly introduced Queensland legislation now includes a ten family 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:53.439 limit for sperm donors. Isn't that extraordinary? Seventy seven siblings? 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.800 And look, you can understand I can't pretend to be 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.560 in her position and fully understand the mental anguish, but 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.840 I'm smart enough to know that you would. Wouldn't you think? 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.200 I just wonder if the list was originally ten and 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:11.600 now it's seventy seven? Remarkable? Several US Air Force B 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:13.920 two bombers appeared to have taken off from a base 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.360 in the US and were headed across the Pacific. We're 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:20.200 told as President Trump was scheduled to meet at the 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:23.080 White House with his national security team this morning our 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:28.520 time to discuss joining Israel's attacks on Iranian nuclear sites. 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.680 Air traffic control communication showed the B two aircraft, which 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:37.920 can carry thirty thousand pound bunker buster bombs. Mister Trump 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:42.840 is considering dropping on Iran's four doh underground nuclear facility. 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:45.360 There's bend no, they call it four doh he'll be filthy. 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:50.000 Taking off from Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri. The 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:53.440 destination of the plane's not clear, although one air traffic 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:57.120 control message suggested they were en route to a US 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:01.280 air base. On guam, ving planes does not mean the 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:05.200 president has made up his mind. It's not unusual to 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:09.240 shift military assets into position to provide options to the president, 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:13.160 even if they're not ultimately deployed, and it's also possible 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:16.240 the US allowed the public to know about the movement 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:19.520 of the bombers to pressure Iran to come to the 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:25.880 negotiating table. Israel's Foreign Minister Gideon Sara said yesterday Israel's 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:28.600 bombing campaign had pushed a run two or three years 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:32.120 back from the capability to make a nuclear weapon. Still, 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:34.800 Israel has yet to fully destroy some of the most 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:39.800 significant nuclear enrichment sites, chief among them the one they're 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:47.720 calling four Doh. Iran's President Masud Pezeshkian said Iran would 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:52.360 not reduce nuclear activities to zero under any circumstances, rejecting 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:56.680 a US demand that. According to the local news agency, 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:00.240 he said he was ready to talk and cooperate, but 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:05.160 warned it would continue. Israel would continue. It's sorry Iran 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:11.040 would continue its retaliation against Israel. The Regent's been waiting 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:15.120 to see whether Trump will deploy American bombers to attack Fodo, 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:22.040 and overnight, as you'd imagine, the hostilities have been maintained. 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:25.080 I'll get this story in a moment or two on 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:28.800 a Sunday sweep, but I know in the nine Papers today, 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:33.960 Treasurer Jim Charmers has admitted left leaning governments are strangling 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:38.320 their own good intentions with bureaucracy, arguing it's time to 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:42.320 deliver supply side solutions to problems ranging from housing to 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:46.720 renewable energy. Now it's his first extended sit down newspaper 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:51.720 interview since the federal poll. Charmers has demanded regulators overseeing 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:56.920 everything from the banking sector to consumer law identify regulations 0:14:56.920 --> 0:15:02.080 that can be axed or simplified to reduce costs and 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:06.200 increase the pace at which the economy can grow. He 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:11.600 revealed the recently released book Abundance, which argues progressives need 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:14.600 to rethink their overly rules based approach to making the 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:17.720 change they want, had been a wake up call for 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:22.000 the left of politics. Now, this book by the American 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:26.520 journalists Ezra Kleine and Derek Thompson was quote doing the 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:30.240 rounds unquote of the Ministry and senior MPs keen to 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:33.600 take on board the author's insights, which include trying to 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:38.400 strip red tape from scientific research and housing construction. Chalmers 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:42.440 said the upcoming Productivity roundtable would tap into the ideas 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:46.480 outlined in Abundance. Well, look, this has been a call, 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:50.560 if you will, from center right governments, going back to 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:54.640 Thatcher in the UK and probably before that, for governments 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:58.160 to get the hell out of our way. Let business 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:02.160 create stuff, Let people get out there and pursue their endeavors, 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:04.920 and make it easier for people to achieve things, not 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:09.440 more difficult. Because it was then the domain of center right. 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:12.760 Must have been naughty, but now it's in a book, 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:18.560 it's okay. Is that how it works? Amazing? We'll get 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:20.240 into that in a moment or two. And some other 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.480 stuff on the Sunday Sweep. My guest today, the Great 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:26.480 Adam Crichton, chief economist at the Institute of Public Affairs 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:30.840 and formerly based in Washington, for the Australian newspaper, plenty 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:35.760 to pick his brain over, including an outstanding opinion piece 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:39.280 he published through the week on net zero he says 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:42.400 in Australia's economic outlook has shifted from optimistic growth to 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:47.720 declining national income per person and falling global living standards. 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:53.120 He attributes this to client to self imposed economic burdens, 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.640 chief of which is net zero. We'll get him to 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:58.400 talk us through that in a moment or two after 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:00.520 ten This morning. A great story that I know many 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:04.800 of you would recognize as an extraordinary sacrifice, an extraordinary 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:08.640 gift of love, an extraordinary gift of family. Nick Smith, 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:12.160 at the age of thirty, was working as a high 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:16.000 flying engineer, playing his trade on massive developments like Crown 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:18.960 Casino in Sydney, and then, out of the blue, his 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:22.600 mum was diagnosed with Alzheimer's. He was then left with 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:26.280 the choice he could either keep climbing the corporate ladder 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:29.879 and his burgeoning career, or he could move home to Nara, 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.520 on the south coast of New South Wales to care 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:36.480 for his mum. Well, he chose his mum. He'd hoped 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:38.920 that being with her would make things easier, but instead 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:43.120 he spent most of his time navigating a complex healthcare 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:46.320 system made up of agencies that don't seem to speak 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:49.880 to each other, that experience has inspired him to do 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.919 some even more incredible things, which I'll get Nick to 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:56.399 tell you about after ten. An amazing yarn today around 0:17:56.440 --> 0:18:00.600 the round ball game. Now they say heading a ball, 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:05.240 a soccer ball, can change your brain. Now, this is 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:08.600 according to a world first experiment which found that heading 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:12.040 a ball induces subtle but measurable changes to the brain 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:19.760 even when there's been no concussion. Using MRI scans, researchers 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:22.440 noticed alterations to the chemistry in the region of the 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:27.760 brain responsible for motor control. They also discovered decreased electrical 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:32.119 conductivity across several areas, leading them to conclude that heading 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:37.320 impacts the brain's energy use and how information is transmitted 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:41.359 through white matter. The results signal and need for further 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:46.680 research into heading's long term effects, particular as the higher 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:50.920 risk of dementia among former professional footballers becomes more apparent. 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:55.600 Talking through the findings, the head researcher, the man who 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:59.919 led the study from the University of Queensland, got Nathan 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:04.200 de Lange. Stephen Fennick will join me to talk technology 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:07.040 in our second hour. He'll walk us through this story. Now, 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:10.680 President Donald Trump's company in the US has launched a 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:16.080 new mobile service and plans to release a smartphone later 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:21.760 in the year, designed and built in America Trump Mobile. 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:25.560 They'll offer a monthly plan priced at forty seven dollars 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:28.960 forty five. I hope the phone comes with a magacap 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:32.439 Jim Haynes in our last hour here reminiscing about the 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:35.520 old drive ins of Sydney. In Brisbane, we have Quiz 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:37.560 all the breaking news and again plenty of time to 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:40.239 talk to you. So that is what I have for 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:43.840 you today. It's eight degrees in Sydney right now, but 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:48.639 it feels like four. It's sixteen in Brisbane and it 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:53.960 feels like sixteen. This is Weekends with Luke Grant on 0:19:54.000 --> 0:20:07.080 two GB and four BC. Now, just before I get 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:10.800 Dennis to update the roads. Good morning Dennis. There's a 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:13.040 few things to tell you about. Yesterday. We had a 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:15.720 call from a listener whose mom is trying to get 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:20.520 out of Iran. You remember the call, and she's in 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:24.280 her seventies. She doesn't have access to transport. I mean, 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:26.320 you can understand what's going on there. She had to 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:29.160 make a way to the border and our listener told 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:32.320 us that her mom had got there and whilst it 0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:34.919 was indicated to her that there would be help and 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:41.200 support of the border. A was losing her ability to communicate. 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:44.200 I guess telephones and other things we take for granted 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:48.600 aren't always going to work everywhere. But importantly she was 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:51.639 told that there would be that assistance there. So we 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:56.119 approached the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade, who provided 0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:58.400 this statement. And I'm hoping to talk to my listener 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:03.080 later in the show. DFAT is providing consular assistance to 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:05.680 the family of an Australian who wishes to leave Iran. 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:09.960 Owing to our privacy obligations, we're unable to provide further 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:17.920 comment se DFAT is deploying consular staff to Asherbaijan, including 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:22.320 at its border crossing, to support Australians departing Iran. We 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:25.520 asked Australians in Iran who wish to depart to do 0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:28.359 it if it is safe. I mean, this is just 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:31.080 motherhood and apple pie stuff, and they don't have to. 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:34.520 We haven't identified even the listener. I didn't even use 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:37.920 her Christian name for that exact reason, and we didn't 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:40.320 expect them to say, oh, by the way, missus Huan 0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:45.000 or miss whoever aged whatever in her seventies from this address. 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:48.560 We're trying to We don't want the personal info. We 0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:51.359 just want some reassurance that you could give half a 0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:54.320 damn about people who want to flee Irana. My understanding 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:57.560 is this woman is over there volunteering in health care 0:21:57.640 --> 0:22:02.479 facilities and has been teaching nursing and the like in 0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:07.080 Sydney and elsewhere for years, So it's not like she's 0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:09.919 over there living it up, if that's even something you 0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:13.040 can do in Iran. Anyway. They go on to say 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:16.240 we're working with Australians registered in Iran to facilitate bord 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:21.040 acrossing codes and acknowledge that unstable internet can connectivity in 0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:26.680 Iran is making more difficult. Blame blame the net. Unfortunately 0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:30.480 this stage, our ability to provide consular services is extremely 0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:37.480 limited due to the situation on the ground. Passport holders 0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:41.520 need a border crossing code and a visa to cross. 0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:44.880 That's the issue. Well, I appreciate the fact you're coming back, 0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:49.920 but as I say, seems like I hope you've been 0:22:49.960 --> 0:22:52.480 more forthcoming to our listener. I'll find out later on. 0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:57.080 And a critical and incident investigations underway after a woman 0:22:57.160 --> 0:23:00.600 died in a two vehicle crash in the Newcastle area 0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:05.680 just after two thirty this morning. Officers patrolling on Newcastle 0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:09.440 Road at North Lambton they cited a Holden Sadan driving dangerously. 0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:13.040 They did not initiate a pursuit, but a short time 0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:17.879 later the Holden Sadan collided with a Hyundai Sa'dan. The 0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:21.199 passenger of the Hyundai, a woman believed to be in 0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:25.000 her fifties, died at the scene yet to be formally identified. 0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:29.120 The driver of twenty eight year old woman, treated by paramedics, 0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:32.400 then went to hospital. The driver of the Holden left 0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:36.760 the scene prior to police arriving. The two rear passengers 0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:40.800 in the Holden, two girls, aged fifteen and seventeen, were 0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:44.520 treated before being taken to John Hunter Hospital under police guard. 0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:50.960 A crime scene and Critical Incident team obviously continue their investigations. 0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:53.080 We'll let you know if they have more to say 0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:56.040 throughout the rest of the show. In the meantime, do 0:23:56.119 --> 0:23:58.840 give me a call one three one eight seven three. 0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:02.920 You can text me zero four six zero eight seven 0:24:02.960 --> 0:24:06.160 three eight seven three email me at two GB dot com, 0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:09.440 four BC dot com dot AU twenty eight to ten. 0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:12.800 Dennis has a traffic today. Now some important breaking news 0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:15.520 here from Matt, my listener on the text, Luke, this 0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:18.359 is the biggest story of the weekend. I'm sure the 0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:22.679 Bunning sausages are getting skinnier and skinnier. The one I 0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:26.439 just had was skinnier than my big thumb. Well, I 0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:29.000 don't even compare to our thumbs. Maybe, Matt, that's something 0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:31.520 we could do one day. But I'll show this my 0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:34.359 thumb to Liam by audio man and he's showing me 0:24:34.440 --> 0:24:39.760 his thumb. That's not a sausage. That's barely that's barely 0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:44.440 a hot dog. Look at that. That's ridiculous. Ah, Matt, No, well, 0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:47.680 thank you for raising that. I don't want to say 0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:50.640 the two words that are at the forefront of my mind, 0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:54.880 but I'm going to Royal Commission. Thanks Matt very much, 0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:59.240 indeed for getting in touch and this email from Steve Morning, 0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:01.560 Luke just will see the new power rates noticed from 0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:05.879 First Energy. All rates have increased substantially. Peak has written 0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:08.400 by over fifteen cents to kill a what hour off 0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:12.760 peak by five We only six months ago changed to 0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:16.320 this supplier after doing the regular shop around, like all 0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:19.280 the so called experts on media and government tell you, 0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:22.240 is the best way to get better pricing. The worst, however, 0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:26.200 is a solar feed in tariff. It's been reduced from 0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:29.640 five cents a killer what hour. It was originally fifteen 0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:33.520 and two cents on the balance, it's now one cent 0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:39.879 a killer what hour, and after that zero point one 0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:43.960 of a cent, effectively giving households who spend tens of 0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:49.119 thousands of dollars on solar panels nothing time to change 0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:54.480 supplies again for the umpteenth time. Your thoughts, my thoughts, Steve, 0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:59.760 we were sold are pop and they mate. They are 0:25:59.840 --> 0:26:04.560 just sitting there, absolutely hit and missing themselves at us. 0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:09.760 There's no other way of putting it. It's just it's 0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:13.840 a joke. I make all these big statements and then 0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.880 as time goes on and I'm talking here about people 0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:20.640 who invested Daddy's millions in renewables, all that kind of gear. 0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:23.960 It is a joke. Thank you for getting a touch 0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:30.520 now on weekends the Sunday Sweet looking. 0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:31.960 At the stories of the week. 0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:34.760 Look no shortage of visious to rip into on planet Earth. 0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:36.720 Right now? Who better to do it with than the 0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:40.879 Great Adam Crichton, formerly of Washington, d C. In the 0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:45.119 Australian newspaper and now chief economist at the Institute of 0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:47.840 Public Affairs, and he's on the line. Good I Adam, 0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:51.439 good morning, Lovely to talk to you, mate, Lovely to 0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:54.160 talk to you. You wrote brilliantly about net zero through 0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:57.280 the week. I just had a listener told me about 0:26:57.320 --> 0:27:01.800 his new power prices and you know, we've all had 0:27:01.800 --> 0:27:04.680 to live through this. The government think they're heroes because 0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:06.400 they give us some of our money back to help 0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:09.600 pay for the very big bills that they've created. But 0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:12.719 the question of net zero has become key here because 0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:16.439 a proportion of the coalition, namely the Nationals, is saying 0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:18.439 we're going to get the hell out of this. And 0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:21.160 it's not just Nationals. As you pointed out through the week, 0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:25.439 former Labor British Prime Minister Tony Blair has called the 0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:29.840 net zero policy doomed to fail due to its irrationality. 0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:33.480 It's a really big issue. Why do we need to 0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:35.280 give net zero the flick? 0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:36.120 Yeah? 0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:38.399 Well, look, certainly I think we may have turned the 0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:41.120 corner very slowly on all the net zero nonsense. 0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:43.159 As you pointed out, a former British. 0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:44.600 Prime minister A Toney Blair has come out against the 0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:48.840 New South Wales Nationals, South Australian Liberals, UK Conservative Party 0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:50.720 have all dumped it. Now, well, I think more and 0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:53.240 more people are realizing it's just a massive tax on 0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:57.439 the economy and it totally restructures the economy in a 0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:01.200 terrible way. You lose your manufacturing sector. Of course, as 0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:03.680 you pointed out earlier, power prices go through the roof, 0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:06.840 so you have huge job losses, huge increases not just 0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:09.359 in the direct power costs, but all the costs of food, 0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:12.840 the food and the supermarkets because obviously fuel goes up, 0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:16.879 transport costs are higher, and look, you know it's you know, 0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:19.520 we keep hearing that we're on the way to the transition, 0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:22.640 but really we're not. There isn't really much of a transition. 0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:25.399 We're still totally dependent on fossil fuels for our energy, 0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:30.240 but the rollout of wind and solar around the country 0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:33.040 is just massively increasing the costs overall because for the 0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:36.960 extra we have to spend on transmission networks and they 0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:41.360 drive the old fossil fuel reliable power stations out of business. 0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:45.280 So look, it's a total mess, and I really do 0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:48.320 hope the coalition formally dumps it and goes to the 0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:52.400 next election. To promise to unwind it. Otherwise we're going 0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:55.360 to face more and more economic destruction in this country. 0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:58.400 We love to or certain parts of the COMMENTARYOT love 0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:01.680 to talk Astraya down. But here's the thing, Adam. Surely 0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:06.400 we obviously produce eight percentage. I think it is one 0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:11.880 percent of global emissions. Countries like the United States, China, 0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:15.680 India and Russia, they dwarf what we do. But it 0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:18.000 seems by right and saying it's Australia, I think you 0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:20.840 might have said this. Australia, Canada and the EU want 0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:24.280 to play by the rules, but the other countries are 0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:27.600 large emitters that they're just paying lip service to them. 0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:29.040 Yes, look it's just a joke. 0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:30.280 I think it's fallen. 0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:32.640 I think Australia's share has actually fallen from one point 0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:35.320 five percent about fifteen years ago to one point one percent. 0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:38.120 So even if we have our missions, it barely makes 0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:40.840 any difference at all. So we're just engaged in this 0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:44.160 huge economic self harm, self sacrifice, if you like, for 0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:47.000 no reason. I mean China and India, just those two countries, 0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:49.840 their share of global emissions is now forty percent, and 0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:54.040 even the US is only thirteen percent, and China and 0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.160 India are not paying any attention at all to these 0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:58.560 so called Mitzia goals. They're rolling out hundreds of new 0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:01.920 coal fire power stations that also, by the way, building 0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:04.520 lots of nuclear power stations too in China, which is sensible, 0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:07.400 but their emissions are going up massively. I mean, you 0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:10.080 have countries like you know, large countries like Britain, they 0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:13.760 have reduced their annual emissions by about two hundred and 0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:17.200 forty million tons of carbon dioxide a year, that's over 0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:19.840 the past twenty years, but China has increased hits by 0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:23.360 one point nine billion. So I so, you know, the 0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:25.800 UK is going to these huge efforts, massive you know, 0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:28.400 massive sacrifice, but it's not making a scrap of difference 0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:31.960 to the global carbon emissions. And you know, net zero 0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:34.560 in the US is obviously not being not being pursued 0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:37.240 under the Trump administration, and as you said earlier, it's 0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:40.320 really just US and the EU and maybe Canada. And 0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:42.640 if you wait all of that by GDP, it's about 0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:45.680 fifteen percent of the world is paying any attention to 0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:47.960 net zero. So I think, you know, we're just the 0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:50.840 laughing stock. And you know, the idea that we're going 0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:53.640 to inspire other countries to change their mind, I think 0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:54.480 is just ludicrous. 0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:56.880 Yeah, yeah, I'm sure that that is right, one hundred 0:30:56.880 --> 0:31:00.560 percent correct, Adam. Going back to your Washington d C days, 0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:05.080 all those probably months ago, Now what you read on 0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:08.480 Trump and Iran is he and he's moved those B 0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:11.640 two bombers. So he's obviously making it clear for anyone 0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:16.560 who's paying attention. Hey, I'm not just diddle dabbling around here. 0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:19.840 You know, we are serious. But do you imagine he'll 0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:22.480 assist Israel or what do you think? 0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:24.720 Well, look, it's you know, it's hard to predict this. 0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:28.080 He's got this huge, this huge domestic political problem where 0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:31.560 I would say probably more than half of his base 0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:35.280 is magabase is fervent supporters. They don't want to get involved, 0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:37.520 they don't want the US getting involved in other wars. 0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:41.000 They're often sympathetic to Israel, but they just don't want 0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:44.520 they don't want Americans to die and spend more money 0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:47.320 in the Middle East anymore. But as you know, I'm 0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:49.760 sure your listeners know, there's been a series of of 0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:52.080 failed wars in the Middle East over many years that 0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:53.880 have cost the US a lot and really haven't achieved 0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:57.520 a great deal. But on the other hand, you know this, 0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:00.800 Trump has said many times that Iran can't nuclear weapon, 0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:04.480 and their administration there in Taranta has said many times 0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:07.400 that do they intend to do just that? So it 0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:09.840 puts it puts the US present in a very difficult position. 0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:13.240 He has moved those bombers. It doesn't necessarily mean anything. 0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:15.720 I don't think we won't know until something happens. It 0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:17.040 will happen suddenly, probably. 0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:18.560 You know. 0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:21.680 My understanding is Roel wants the US to join, obviously, 0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:25.440 but look, it's it's a it's a very vexed problem. 0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:28.000 And I'm not you know, I'm glad, I'm not I'm 0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:29.360 glad I'm not making the decision. 0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:34.320 Yeah, a tough one both. Now, today we read in 0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:38.560 the Nine Papers that Treasurer Jim Charmers, who we call 0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:44.680 here JIMBO, has revealed the recently released book Abundance, which 0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:48.560 argues progressives need to rethink they're overly rules based approach 0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:52.120 to making the change they want. Had been a wake 0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:56.320 up call for the left of politics. Now you know, 0:32:56.720 --> 0:32:59.600 it's been it's been the catch cry of center right 0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:02.760 government and to have smaller government. This is not this 0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:04.800 is not a new thing, but it took the work 0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:08.760 of American journalists theres A Reclient and Derek Thompson to 0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:11.719 convince the Treasury here. Do you actually think the unions 0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:13.800 will let him get rid of red tape if it 0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:15.640 reduces their power? I can't see it. 0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:18.400 Well, no, look, I can't see it. And actually it's 0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:21.720 this labor government that has massively increased regulation so much. 0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:23.840 I mean, the IPA has done a lot of research 0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:26.000 on the growth and regulation over the years, and it's 0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:28.880 just extraordinary to see the figures. I mean, we've just 0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:31.800 had just over the last three years, we've had an 0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:34.600 increase in the number of regulatory roles, if you like, 0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:36.880 in the federal government. So he the bureaucrat's employed full 0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:39.600 time to enforce regulation. That's gone up nineteen percent to 0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:43.800 one hundred and seven thousand staff. That's the match of 0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:46.000 So this is your things like well obviously net zero 0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:49.680 and a huge raft of regulations that go with that. 0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:51.960 You know, we don't talk much about the industrial relation 0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:55.320 system anymore, but that is extremely regulated, and you know 0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:59.400 that entails hundreds and thousands of regulations too. So you know, 0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:03.160 we haven't got to the tax system yet. So look, 0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:04.880 I mean he's right that we do need to reduce 0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:07.520 regulation obviously. I mean we're in a period of extremely 0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:11.719 lackluster growth, extremely low productivity growth. You know, we've had 0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:15.319 declining living standards now for most of the last three years. 0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:18.120 So something has to be done. But you know, I 0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:20.040 must say I'm a little bit skeptical that the this 0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:21.160 government will be able. 0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:21.359 To do it. 0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:23.239 But you know, let's hope they can. They have a 0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:25.600 big majority, so they should try to do some good things. 0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:30.719 Yeah, exactly. And the Productivity round Table which is upcoming, 0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:33.080 you say, anything come out of that. I mean we 0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:35.640 had the Jobs and Skill Summit when they were elected 0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:38.200 last time. I'd argue nothing much came out of that. 0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:39.359 Will anything come out of. 0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:42.799 This, Well, look, let's hope so. But I'm a bit 0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:45.080 worried the Productivity Commission. I'm a little bit worried that 0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:47.360 it's been too captured by the left. I mean, it 0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:52.839 doesn't seem to advocate for lower taxation anymore. It's more 0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:57.480 partial to spending growth. And indeed, this whole debate, we 0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:00.839 have to remember it's spending is the problem. We need 0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:03.560 to reduce that. Sure, we do need to change how 0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:05.080 we raise revenue because we do it in a very 0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:08.080 inefficient way. But spending growth is out of control. It's 0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:11.440 growing far faster than population growth or inflation. You know, 0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:14.920 you've got the NDIS in particular. You know, it's growing 0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:18.000 almost ten percent a year. It's completely out of control. 0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:20.759 So I do worry that this whole chat of tax 0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:24.319 reform will just lead the higher taxes. But we do 0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:27.600 need to simplify the system reduce the overall rates. I mean, 0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:29.839 you know, one fact I always say is our top 0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:32.080 marginal tax rate is higher than China's and they're supposed 0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:34.960 to be a communist country, So what does that say 0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:38.080 about us? That's the case, So we need to get 0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:40.319 those rates down to encourage people to work and say 0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:42.520 and also, you know, one thing that's not talked about 0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:44.399 you in my sense is a lot of bright young 0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:47.839 Australians are leaving Australia to go work in the US 0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:50.160 or work in other jurisdictions where they pay far less 0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:52.399 tax because it's just so hard to get ahead here 0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:54.040 because of the tax burd Yeah. 0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:56.719 Glad to chat, Adam, have a terrific weekend. Thanks so 0:35:56.800 --> 0:35:57.520 much for your time. 0:35:57.360 --> 0:35:59.080 Mate, Yeah, thanksfully. 0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:01.360 Good on your Adam, Crichton keep economists at the Institute 0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:04.400 of Public Affairs. Five to ten. It's amazing how quickly 0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:09.080 things happen. Donald Trump on Truth Social two minutes ago, 0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:13.360 We've completed our very successful attack on the three nuclear 0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:18.960 sites in Iran, including four do Hour, Natanz and Svahan. 0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:23.760 All planes are now outside of Iran airspace. A full 0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:27.200 payload of bombs was dropped on the primary site. Four 0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:30.200 to doh. All planes are safety on their way home. 0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:34.680 Congratulations to our great American warriors. There was not another 0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:37.040 military in the world that could have done this. Now 0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:41.160 is the time for peace. Think if your attention has 0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:43.840 says at the end of that message to this matter. 0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:49.680 So Donald Trump on Truth Social says, we've completed our 0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:53.719 very successful attack on the three nuclear sites in Iran. 0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:58.080 And he made that post in the last two minutes 0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:00.879 back in a second four to ten. All right, it's 0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:03.440 a minute to ten, just repeating that breaking news. And 0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:06.480 I'm good to see. Look, I am very proud of 0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:09.319 the place I work. Two gb and four we see, 0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:11.719 but we were just first with that, and it's a 0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:13.560 catch up. Not that that bad as it does to me, 0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:15.960 because you know, I have great pride in this but 0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:19.319 assignment on the tech, says Luke. World War III has 0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:22.520 just begun well. Donald Trump says, We've completed our very 0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:26.920 successful attack on the three nuclear sites in Iran, including 0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:31.440 four Dough, Natanz and s Fahan. All planes are now 0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:35.520 outside of Iran airspace. A full payload of bombers were 0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:40.080 dropped on the primary site, four Dough. That is largely 0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:43.640 going to be what people like me talk about now 0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:46.080 for some time. We'll try and get more on this 0:37:46.160 --> 0:38:01.879 story after the News which is nexts Australia. It's back 0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:09.040 to weekends with Luke Grant. Good morning, Thank you for listening. 0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:13.239 It's terrific to be with you on a very significant 0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:18.040 day in the history of planet Earth. And that comes 0:38:18.400 --> 0:38:23.279 to our attention following a social media posting from the 0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:28.800 US President Donald Trump, who just before ten o'clock our time, posted, 0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:33.400 We've completed our very successful attack on three nuclear sites 0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:38.480 in Iran, including four Doh, Natanz and s Fahan. All 0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:42.320 planes are now outside of Iran airspace. A full payload 0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:45.640 of bombs was dropped on the primary site, four Doh. 0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:49.799 All planes are safely on their way home. Congratulations to 0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:54.319 our great American warriors. There's not another military in the 0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:56.960 world that could have done this. Now is the time 0:38:57.000 --> 0:38:59.840 for peace, and he finishes by saying, thank you for 0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:07.520 attention to this matter. Now there's reports everywhere just coming 0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:12.320 to light now the New York Times, where I often 0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:15.920 go first to see what they're saying. The attack on 0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:20.600 these sites marks the first time since the Iranian Revolution 0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:23.560 in seventy nine that the US has sent its air 0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:27.359 force to strike major facilities inside the country an active war, 0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:32.160 they say, President Trump has now inserted the US military 0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:36.920 directly into an open conflict with Iran, which a succession 0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:41.160 of American presidents dating back to Jimmy Carter attempted to avoid. 0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:46.240 Mister Trump made no effort in his truth social post 0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:51.360 to justify what administration officials said would be a preemptive 0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:56.880 attack to keep Iran from a final race for the bomb. 0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:04.120 Now he's been under pressure, says another from some of 0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:08.280 his most anti interventionist supporters, not to engage in the strikes. 0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.200 But in the last two days some of those supporters 0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:14.640 have shifted their public arguments to call for any action 0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:20.560 to be contained and not a protracted US engagement. The 0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:24.160 three sites that Trump said were hit include Iran's two 0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:30.439 major uranium Enrichmond centers, the under Mountain facility at FORDOH, 0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:35.000 the larger Enrichmond plant at Natans, which Israel struck several 0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:39.799 days ago with smaller weapons. The third site, near the 0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:44.440 ancient city of Isfahan, is where Iran is believed to 0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:49.200 keep its near bomb grade enriched uranium, which inspectors saw 0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:53.799 just two weeks ago. With those areas being destroyed, it 0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:59.120 would set back the Uranian program by years, unless it 0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:05.799 has yet under detected parallel facilities. Earlier in this day, 0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:09.160 a series of B two bombers, which could carry the 0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:12.799 type of bunker buster bombs being considered, particularly for four 0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:18.440 dhers nuclear facility, were tracked heading west from Missouri, believed 0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:21.880 to be headed to Guam. Now they say it's not 0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:26.400 clear whether those planes were in fact the ones used. 0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:32.800 The latest is from the New York Post. The United 0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:37.440 States dropped bombs on three nuclear sites in Iran. President 0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:41.640 Trump announced bringing the US military directly into Israel's war 0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:45.759 with Iran after days of uncertainty about whether he would intervene, 0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:50.440 and as I quoted to you, he said, all planes 0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:55.000 are now outside of Iran airspace, adding that a full 0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:57.440 payload of bombs had been dropped on four to doh. 0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:03.960 All planes are safely on their way home. This has 0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:08.600 been constantly updated. We're seeking to speak to a couple 0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:12.480 of commentators in this space that you know that you 0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:14.319 know well, you're here with me from time to time, 0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:17.440 and if they're free to do that and not able 0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:20.000 to do that, then we'll obviously we'll go to that 0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:25.760 straight away. A US official i'm hearing said on condition 0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:31.640 of anonymity. Given the sensitive nature of the information on 0:42:31.760 --> 0:42:36.200 all of this has alerted television networks that the President 0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:42.600 was expected to address the nation obviously the US now 0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:46.600 This site, Fordoh was first revealed to the world in 0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:51.520 two thousand and nine. The European and American intelligence agencies 0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:55.640 had founded earlier. For the past sixteen years, I'm told 0:42:56.400 --> 0:43:00.120 officials were worried it was too deep and too fortified 0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:04.279 to strike. The weapons believed to be dropped in the 0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:07.640 American raid were designed specifically four to four to zero 0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:13.439 and similar sites in mind. By the time the US 0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:18.960 aircraft bombed the Natan's nuclear site, the International Atomic Energy 0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:24.399 Agency assessed that all the centrifuges in its hall, about 0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:28.320 one hundred feet underground, had been knocked out by Israel's 0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:31.839 attack on the electrical system that fed the machines, which 0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:38.600 apparently spin at supersonic speeds. The US bombs would have 0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:42.160 likely done far more damage to the facility, the same 0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:45.040 one that the Bush and Obama administrations hit more than 0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:50.640 fifteen years ago in a cyber attack. That covert attack 0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:55.359 was undertaken because both Bush and Obama considered bombing to 0:43:55.400 --> 0:44:03.120 be too risky. Just being told that the Defense Department. 0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:10.000 According to an official who remained anonymous, a number of 0:44:10.080 --> 0:44:12.680 American B two bombers were used to hit Fordoh. The 0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:16.520 bombers can carry the needed thirty thousand pound bunker buster 0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:23.680 bombs that can penetrate into the underground facility. So it is. 0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:26.600 We still don't know if it's the two planes we 0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:28.640 were told about earlier in the day that were headed 0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:35.440 apparently to Guam, but interestingly might well have ended up 0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:41.520 in Iran. Just some feedback from listeners, Luke, It'll be 0:44:41.560 --> 0:44:46.480 interesting to see how Iran's allies, including Russia, react, Yes, Wayne, 0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:49.600 it will, Luke. Any other president would have held a 0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:54.080 press conference from the White House. This is so wrong. Well, 0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:59.360 I'm told it just happened, Shari. I don't know that 0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:03.240 they have. Maybe maybe I have some memory of Biden 0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:07.719 doing something similar straight after an attack. I'm only going 0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:10.920 for memory. You might you might have a point. He 0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:17.359 will be speaking. That's certainly the news out of the administration. Hi. Look, 0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:20.520 I hope the American strikes don't put large gatherings in jeopardy, 0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:25.920 as there is one in Sydney this afternoon. All right, gaz, 0:45:26.280 --> 0:45:31.799 thank you. I'll get to Dr Malcolm Davis from the 0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:37.120 Australian Strategic Policy Institute in just a moment. Donald Trump says, 0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:39.479 Stephen will go down in history for saving the world 0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:44.040 from an evil regime. I consider it a present. I 0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:50.640 think it's Stephen's birthday today. Thank you, Chris, says mister Abenzi. 0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:54.800 Miss Wog will probably criticize the US through this, Chris, 0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:59.239 thank you. Well, they're in it now, says Cherie. So 0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:02.200 much for the prom of not getting America involved in 0:46:02.280 --> 0:46:07.440 any more overseas wars? What if again? Based on lies? 0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:14.480 No fan of Donald Trump? Fair enough. Another listener says, 0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:18.160 Bob morning, Luke. It's so terribly sad we cannot all 0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:20.759 get on. You'd think by now we'd learn from our mistakes, 0:46:21.440 --> 0:46:25.040 but we don't. Australians are all very lucky that home 0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:28.520 is on the other side of the earth. Very fair point. Now. 0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:32.759 Malcolm Davis is a senior analyst Strategic Policy Institute and 0:46:32.840 --> 0:46:35.400 joins me on the line. Malcolm, so good of you 0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:39.640 to give us time so quickly after this news has broken. 0:46:40.680 --> 0:46:43.760 I was reporting earlier like everyone else, that these three 0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:46.720 B two aircraft were headed we were told to Guam. 0:46:46.760 --> 0:46:49.120 We don't know yet if the three that we were 0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:53.040 reporting on are the three that have struck Iran. I 0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:56.080 guess I should ask you, someone so expert in this space, 0:46:56.800 --> 0:47:00.080 how surprised are you this has happened now this morning 0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:00.520 our time. 0:47:01.400 --> 0:47:04.120 Well, look, I think that the two week period that 0:47:04.200 --> 0:47:09.040 President Trump talked about fairly clearly was designed to to 0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:14.879 basically generate an opportunity for surprise. It was clearly disinformation. 0:47:14.960 --> 0:47:18.600 It was about tricking the Iranians into thinking that there 0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:22.600 would be no US attack on Iran before that two 0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:25.399 week period was up. Clearly that's not the case, because 0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:28.359 they've gone in this morning and attacked for Doner Twans 0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:31.719 in Ishlaham. And I think that the B twos that 0:47:31.800 --> 0:47:34.200 you mentioned that were flying out to Guam, as possible, 0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:36.560 they could have been a plaint an actual fact, the 0:47:36.560 --> 0:47:39.959 actual B twos that did the strike this morning came 0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:43.200 from a different direction, and so that's the advantage of 0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:46.120 stealth aircraft. You can't see them on radar, and so 0:47:46.160 --> 0:47:49.040 therefore they're very difficult to track and it makes surprise 0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:50.040 that much more easy. 0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:56.040 Yeah, fascinating this the Iranian scene in all the and look, 0:47:56.080 --> 0:47:58.799 we don't know what conversations going behind the scenes, but 0:47:59.200 --> 0:48:04.360 in their reporter commentary they weren't going to ever stop 0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:08.959 uranium enrichment or the development of their program. And in fact, 0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:13.560 they were suggesting that they're not going to seriously reentered 0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:17.759 negotiations until Israel stops. And it seems to me that 0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:19.880 Trump might well have said heard that said, well, you 0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:21.040 know now to time. 0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:24.239 Look, the Iranians were never going to give up their 0:48:24.320 --> 0:48:28.640 nuclear program, and that nuclear program had ambitions towards nuclear weapons. 0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:33.239 I think every serious analyst I basically would agree with 0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:38.560 that assessment. Uranium enrichment is Iran's path to nuclear weapons. 0:48:38.560 --> 0:48:40.640 They were not prepared to give up that enrichment, even 0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:44.200 though they had no need for such an enrichment capability. 0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:48.520 So I think that Israelis and the Americans recognized the 0:48:48.600 --> 0:48:52.480 Iranians were not sincere about a negotiated settlement because the 0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:55.680 Iranians wanted the option to have nuclear weapons. That was 0:48:55.800 --> 0:49:00.479 unacceptable to Israel because an Iranian nuclear weapons capability would 0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:03.240 essentially be an existential threat to the state of Israel. 0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:07.200 So I think that the Israelis were definitely correct to 0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:09.759 launch the attacks they did some weeks ago. But now 0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:12.600 the Americans are correct to join in the fight and 0:49:13.040 --> 0:49:15.200 try to take down this Iranian nucleus threat. 0:49:15.880 --> 0:49:18.960 And look, they won't faired income would I the ability 0:49:18.960 --> 0:49:22.480 to have an independent that's what it is, inspection of facilities. 0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:26.520 They were pulling the other one, surely the Iranians. 0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:28.560 I mean, they were never going to prevent that. And 0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:31.319 I think any deal that had been signed would have 0:49:31.400 --> 0:49:35.759 quickly come apart because Iranian cheating would have been discovered 0:49:36.040 --> 0:49:38.680 the International Atomic Energy Agency and the lead up to 0:49:38.719 --> 0:49:42.759 the Israeli attacks made it clear that the Iranians were 0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:47.880 undertaking undeclared new correctivities at undeclared sites. So the Iranians 0:49:48.200 --> 0:49:50.759 were cheating before this war big even began. So I 0:49:50.800 --> 0:49:55.560 think that whilst people would always favored diplomacy and a 0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:59.200 diplmatic resolution on this occasion, when you're talking about the 0:49:59.239 --> 0:50:03.320 literal survivor of the Israeli people. Israel was correct to 0:50:03.360 --> 0:50:05.720 launch the attack that it did, and the United States 0:50:05.840 --> 0:50:10.080 was correct to join to make sure that Iran's nucle facilities, 0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:14.080 especially for though, were no longer no longer available for 0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:15.440 Iran to used to get Nikong web. 0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:20.600 How concerned should we be in what Russia and others 0:50:21.080 --> 0:50:23.520 who are a lot closer to Iran, what they might 0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:24.120 do next. 0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:28.680 Well, I think Russia has its hands full in Ukraine 0:50:28.760 --> 0:50:32.640 and has ambitions beyond Ukraine against NATO, so I think 0:50:32.680 --> 0:50:37.839 that I don't see Russian joining this fight. China supposedly 0:50:38.320 --> 0:50:40.080 is staying out of it, but then again, you had 0:50:40.080 --> 0:50:44.400 two Chinese owned seven forty seven freighters touched down in 0:50:44.480 --> 0:50:50.960 Tehran on secret flights just a few days ago unloading cargo. 0:50:51.080 --> 0:50:53.920 So I have no idea what that was about. But 0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:57.359 it's possible that China may have supplied some sort of 0:50:57.360 --> 0:51:03.040 technology to Iran. The IBORITHM really getting in militarily. But 0:51:03.120 --> 0:51:06.960 I think that this one strike is not going to 0:51:07.000 --> 0:51:09.520 solve the problem. The Americans are going to have to 0:51:09.520 --> 0:51:13.040 do multiple strikes on particularly on large targets like Plorda 0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:17.560 to finish that job. And then the issue is that 0:51:17.760 --> 0:51:21.399 unless there's regime change in Tehran, there's the rural risk 0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:24.560 that even though we'll take the runnings a lot longer now, 0:51:25.239 --> 0:51:27.920 they will try to reconstitute their nuclear programs. So this 0:51:28.040 --> 0:51:31.520 problem is not resolved at this point in time. We 0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:35.000 are in the state of trying to deny Araun the 0:51:35.080 --> 0:51:37.880 ability to get nucle weapons, but they will struggle very 0:51:37.960 --> 0:51:39.480 hard to get nucle weapons. 0:51:39.840 --> 0:51:44.560 How does Iran respond, Malcolm. 0:51:44.040 --> 0:51:47.360 They will probably respond we have attacks on US forces 0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:49.640 in the region. I think that's probably the next step 0:51:49.640 --> 0:51:53.520 everyone is focusing on. That would then justify the Americans 0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:56.279 fighting back under Article fifty one of the UN Charter, 0:51:56.320 --> 0:51:59.520 which is the right of self defense. And you would 0:51:59.560 --> 0:52:02.400 then see the US launching attacks across the length and 0:52:02.440 --> 0:52:05.680 breadth of Iran in terms of military targets to try 0:52:05.719 --> 0:52:10.400 and essentially wipe out Iranian's military forces. Ultimately, where that leads, 0:52:10.520 --> 0:52:14.840 potentially is some sort of regime change scenario. Ideally, it 0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:19.120 happens from within in terms of a popular color revolution 0:52:19.160 --> 0:52:21.799 as they're called, where the people rise up and throw 0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:24.840 out the leadership or the leadership flees to Moscow and 0:52:24.880 --> 0:52:28.160 then you have some sort of new government come in 0:52:28.239 --> 0:52:30.920 that is more friendly to the West, and that helps 0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:33.040 solve a lot of the long term problems, including the 0:52:33.120 --> 0:52:36.399 nucle weapons issue. If that doesn't happen, if we don't 0:52:36.400 --> 0:52:38.840 get regime changed, then we're back to this scenario of 0:52:38.880 --> 0:52:42.399 a hostile regime in Tehran that seeks nucle weapons more 0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:45.080 so than ever now. And so you have this as 0:52:45.120 --> 0:52:46.239 an ongoing issue. 0:52:46.480 --> 0:52:50.719 And I can't help but think the Hooties by extension, 0:52:51.480 --> 0:52:56.719 they would probably now see any American flag, vessel, bead, military, 0:52:57.000 --> 0:52:59.919 or any anything fair game. 0:53:00.760 --> 0:53:03.600 Absolutely, so I think the Americans are probably on full 0:53:03.600 --> 0:53:07.160 combat alert in the region, not just in terms of Iran, 0:53:07.200 --> 0:53:09.720 but across the right right across the Middle East region. 0:53:11.120 --> 0:53:13.239 And you know it's not just the Hutis. You have 0:53:13.320 --> 0:53:16.279 Hamas and Hezbollah, if you have a running proxies in 0:53:16.400 --> 0:53:19.360 Iraq and Syria. There's US bases all over the region. 0:53:19.880 --> 0:53:22.200 So the US would be on full combat combat alert, 0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:26.880 as would US allies such as the United Kingdom. Australia 0:53:26.960 --> 0:53:31.359 has some personnel in I think it's the Middle East, 0:53:31.440 --> 0:53:35.680 but they're in a joint headquarters. They're not involved necessarily 0:53:35.680 --> 0:53:39.600 in direct combat actions. But I don't see Australia getting 0:53:39.640 --> 0:53:42.000 involved in this at all. But I think that what 0:53:42.040 --> 0:53:44.640 we could do is backfill some of the US forces, 0:53:44.680 --> 0:53:46.960 so the US could send additional forces of its own 0:53:47.520 --> 0:53:50.080 to the region and we take up their roles in 0:53:50.120 --> 0:53:50.960 the pacifect. 0:53:51.440 --> 0:53:55.200 Malcolm, I really appreciate your knowledge, your expertise, in your 0:53:55.200 --> 0:53:58.320 time on a Sunday morning. Thank you so much, my pleasure, 0:53:58.480 --> 0:54:01.480 great to talk to you. Malcolm Davis, Senior analyst at 0:54:01.480 --> 0:54:05.680 the Strategic Policy Institute. Wow, there's a lot in that, 0:54:05.760 --> 0:54:08.240 Isn't there a lot in that? And you've just tuned 0:54:08.280 --> 0:54:12.240 in the breaking news? Is Donald Trump on truth social 0:54:12.840 --> 0:54:17.040 as posted, We've completed our very successful attack on three 0:54:17.160 --> 0:54:22.120 nuclear sites in a run, including four do Natans and Svahan. 0:54:22.800 --> 0:54:26.359 All planes are now outside of Iranian airspace, a full 0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:29.600 payload of bombs dropped on the primary site four to doh. 0:54:29.960 --> 0:54:33.080 All planes are safety on their way home. Just some 0:54:33.160 --> 0:54:35.439 more reaction from the United States. And by the way, 0:54:35.480 --> 0:54:39.399 I'm told Donald Trump will speak to the world at 0:54:39.440 --> 0:54:43.160 around midday our time. We will bring you all of that. 0:54:43.760 --> 0:54:47.879 Donald Trump will speak at midday, and as I say, 0:54:47.960 --> 0:54:52.560 we will bring you all of that now, Yeah, just 0:54:52.600 --> 0:54:54.920 some updates here. While the attacks on four Doh and 0:54:54.960 --> 0:54:58.600 the Tarns were expected, Isfahan was actually the more complex 0:54:59.719 --> 0:55:03.239 and a less discussed target. Laboratories there did work on 0:55:03.320 --> 0:55:06.120 how to convert uranium into the form that would be 0:55:06.200 --> 0:55:09.319 needed to actually produce a weapon. Most of the near 0:55:09.440 --> 0:55:14.319 bomb grade fuel enriched to sixty percent, was in specialty 0:55:14.440 --> 0:55:18.680 casks deep inside one of the many laboratory laboratories and 0:55:18.719 --> 0:55:23.319 storage sites. Their locations were known by international inspectors. At 0:55:23.440 --> 0:55:26.360 least until a few weeks ago. It was unclear whether 0:55:26.400 --> 0:55:31.160 Iran had moved those supplies as some Iranian officials suggested. 0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:35.600 Senator Lindsay Graham, Republican from South Carolina and one of 0:55:35.600 --> 0:55:40.319 the most vocal Iran defense hawks on Capitol Hill, celebrated 0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:43.279 the strike, saying in a social media post it was 0:55:43.320 --> 0:55:46.680 a right call. Graham had been in regular contact with 0:55:46.760 --> 0:55:51.080 Trump to argue in favor of the strikes. He said, 0:55:51.320 --> 0:55:55.120 the regime deserves it. In a post in the last 0:55:55.280 --> 0:56:02.560 few minutes, three senior Iranian officials, speaking on the condition 0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:07.640 of anonymity, said they believed American forces had bombed four 0:56:07.719 --> 0:56:12.800 Doh and Natans at around two thirty am in Iran. 0:56:13.960 --> 0:56:20.440 So confirmation from inside Iran, even though from anonymous sources, 0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:25.000 you didn't understand that breaking US this morning, the United 0:56:25.000 --> 0:56:31.160 States have conducted bombing attacks on three nucleo sites in Iran, 0:56:31.320 --> 0:56:36.000 namely four doh Natans and Sfahan. The President will speak 0:56:36.000 --> 0:56:39.040 at midday. This is Weekends with Luke Grant. It's half 0:56:39.080 --> 0:56:41.760 past ten on weekends on two GB and four BC 0:56:42.520 --> 0:56:46.799 with Luke Grant, and we're providing coverage of this significant 0:56:46.840 --> 0:56:50.760 world news that to Donald Trump announcing on social media 0:56:50.880 --> 0:56:54.960 truth social that the United States have completed an attack 0:56:55.000 --> 0:56:59.239 on three nucleo sites in Iran. I want to bring 0:56:59.280 --> 0:57:03.480 in now do Ali Memori, an expert on around from 0:57:03.640 --> 0:57:07.040 Bacon University. Doctor memory thank you very much for your time, 0:57:08.440 --> 0:57:11.719 Thank you for having me not at all now. You're 0:57:11.760 --> 0:57:15.279 engaged in all these things and have a level of expertise. 0:57:15.360 --> 0:57:19.040 But did did you see this as a likely outcome 0:57:19.160 --> 0:57:22.400 that the US would be directly involved as of today? 0:57:23.480 --> 0:57:26.240 No, I wouldn't expect, to be honest, I wouldn't expect 0:57:26.240 --> 0:57:29.640 that Donald Trump would risk such a dangerous move and 0:57:31.160 --> 0:57:34.400 take the entire region to a very unknown future. 0:57:35.840 --> 0:57:38.840 How does a run respond do you imagine, I mean 0:57:40.280 --> 0:57:44.480 you advised local governments, I think the Iraqi government. How 0:57:44.520 --> 0:57:48.959 would you anticipate the Iranian response? What would it. 0:57:48.840 --> 0:57:54.160 Be, yes, was the Erchy Prime minister. But we've been 0:57:54.160 --> 0:57:56.560 in contact with your Anian government and I know the 0:57:56.680 --> 0:58:01.520 mentality is there, how they think and how they react 0:58:01.560 --> 0:58:04.920 to such a thread. The situation for them is very critical. 0:58:04.960 --> 0:58:10.280 It's existential threats, especially that US and they both are 0:58:10.360 --> 0:58:15.200 talking publicly now about change of region policy and about 0:58:15.320 --> 0:58:20.400 possible division and spirited the country, and Urnians see before 0:58:20.440 --> 0:58:23.000 them set to clearly what happened to Era capitals and 0:58:23.200 --> 0:58:28.240 free what happened in Libya in Syria, so they see 0:58:28.360 --> 0:58:31.920 not any choice before themselves to fight back. And they 0:58:32.000 --> 0:58:36.960 already announced that they have several options on tables, including 0:58:37.040 --> 0:58:43.640 including hormon estate with Minds or with other capacities that 0:58:43.720 --> 0:58:47.000 they have just to let you know that twenty five 0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:51.000 percent of all passed from Hormos strain, which is a 0:58:51.160 --> 0:58:55.520 very big amount for the global trading. And they can attack. 0:58:56.040 --> 0:58:58.240 They already said it that we do if we get 0:58:58.920 --> 0:59:03.320 attacked by by Americans, they will attack us basis which 0:59:03.360 --> 0:59:06.000 is spirit in the region, in the goal in Era, 0:59:06.440 --> 0:59:11.160 just in Iraq, they have twenty five hundred forces, and 0:59:11.400 --> 0:59:15.720 they might even consider attacking US diplomatic missions in. 0:59:15.680 --> 0:59:19.800 The region as Goodness made it. What does it mean 0:59:19.920 --> 0:59:23.960 for Israel? I mean, is is there attention now devoted 0:59:23.960 --> 0:59:27.320 from Israel or does the ramp up their refords in 0:59:27.440 --> 0:59:28.760 bombing Israel. 0:59:30.800 --> 0:59:34.160 From Ezrael decided, it seems that Benjamin Natanya will succeed 0:59:34.200 --> 0:59:39.320 in bringing and the dragging Americans to survive his government, 0:59:39.440 --> 0:59:42.480 which was his intention from the beginning for this attack. 0:59:42.600 --> 0:59:46.240 But from Israeli from the Iranian side, they will continue 0:59:46.280 --> 0:59:49.680 attacking Ezrael as well as they've been attacked by really 0:59:49.920 --> 0:59:53.400 just last night as well. So it seems that Iranians 0:59:53.440 --> 0:59:57.000 will fight on the both sides with all capacities. 0:59:58.360 --> 1:00:01.760 Is there any way that the Iranian would have anticipated this? 1:00:02.080 --> 1:00:07.280 There was reports earlier today doctor that three B twos 1:00:07.480 --> 1:00:12.919 were leaving the US headed for Guam, and obviously three 1:00:13.200 --> 1:00:16.240 or would I assume three B twos were in fact 1:00:16.280 --> 1:00:19.480 coming from the other direction to carry out this bombing? 1:00:20.240 --> 1:00:22.760 Uh the fact that Donald Trump said, will think about 1:00:22.800 --> 1:00:25.680 this for two weeks, I mean, this has been the 1:00:26.520 --> 1:00:31.240 ultimate diversion, hasn't The Iranians would not have expected this, surely. 1:00:32.480 --> 1:00:33.280 Yeah, I agree. 1:00:33.360 --> 1:00:38.240 I imagine that they had anticipated and also had some 1:00:38.400 --> 1:00:43.120 calculation about advitisent, especially that the Urinian for the minister 1:00:44.080 --> 1:00:47.960 before esay in the talk with the European countries for 1:00:48.040 --> 1:00:52.520 the ministers these counterparts, he said that we don't know 1:00:52.560 --> 1:00:56.400 how to trust Americans. Again, we see that the entire 1:00:56.600 --> 1:01:00.240 negotiation from the beginning was the trap by the Americans 1:01:00.280 --> 1:01:06.120 to get exposed to this situation. As he continued that 1:01:06.200 --> 1:01:12.360 if we can get involved with retalier, it seems to 1:01:12.480 --> 1:01:15.280 me and I assume that it Anians have already prepared 1:01:15.400 --> 1:01:19.840 for such scenario and they have their cards ready to retaliate. 1:01:20.280 --> 1:01:23.040 Yeah, all right, doctor, thank you so much for your 1:01:23.040 --> 1:01:25.800 time and short night us. I really appreciate that doctor 1:01:25.880 --> 1:01:30.360 Alimmuri an expert on around from Deacon University. In fact, 1:01:30.400 --> 1:01:34.920 I'm told he advises the Iraq government on defense matters 1:01:34.920 --> 1:01:40.000 in that region. Apologies, that line broke up once or twice. 1:01:40.000 --> 1:01:43.080 It was a bit difficult to fully comprehend all of that, 1:01:43.120 --> 1:01:45.480 but I think there was enough there to get a 1:01:45.520 --> 1:01:48.440 sense of just if we didn't know already how serious 1:01:48.520 --> 1:01:53.120 this is. Got some further updates to bring to your attention. Again, 1:01:53.160 --> 1:01:56.200 if you've just joined US Donald Trump announcing and he'll 1:01:56.240 --> 1:01:59.320 speak at midday. Out of time. I'm told that the 1:01:59.480 --> 1:02:05.160 US has completed an attack on three nuclear sites in Iran, 1:02:05.960 --> 1:02:12.560 including four doh N, Tans and Sfahan. Trump says all 1:02:12.640 --> 1:02:16.720 planes are now outside of Iran airspace. He says a 1:02:16.720 --> 1:02:19.520 full payload of bombs was dropped on the primary site, 1:02:20.160 --> 1:02:27.440 which is four doh And for a quick aside, given 1:02:27.640 --> 1:02:31.640 our main man and great rate, Ben Fordham's nickname for 1:02:31.760 --> 1:02:36.320 some is Fdah. I call him Ben because I respect him. 1:02:36.400 --> 1:02:38.720 It is a time to be difficult to be saying 1:02:38.720 --> 1:02:41.040 all of this, But there you are now in the 1:02:41.240 --> 1:02:45.520 New York Times, they're saying. John Ratcliffe, the CIA Director, 1:02:45.560 --> 1:02:49.880 and joined other officials, including Marco Rubio, the National Security 1:02:49.920 --> 1:02:53.919 Advisor and Secretary of State, at the White House, where 1:02:53.920 --> 1:02:56.640 they went into the Situation Room to monitor the strikes 1:02:57.080 --> 1:03:01.200 and their aftermath. Ratcliffe had been Trump and the White 1:03:01.240 --> 1:03:07.440 House regularly this week on the Iranian nuclear program. Experts 1:03:07.440 --> 1:03:10.080 said the decision by Trump to strike Iran mark the 1:03:10.120 --> 1:03:13.600 start of an unpredictable chapter of security in politics in 1:03:13.640 --> 1:03:18.760 the Middle East. Ray Taker, a senior fellow for Middle 1:03:18.800 --> 1:03:22.320 East Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations says it's 1:03:22.320 --> 1:03:27.760 a new phase and a potentially problematic one. Iranian political 1:03:27.800 --> 1:03:31.200 leaders will most likely face pressure inside the country to respond, 1:03:32.080 --> 1:03:37.040 possibly by launching counter attacks on Australian military sites or proxies. 1:03:38.120 --> 1:03:43.200 Previous my previous guest said exactly that they might even 1:03:43.240 --> 1:03:50.880 strike diplomatic posts in the region. They say the leaders, 1:03:50.920 --> 1:03:54.680 the Iranian leaders were very humiliated in every possible way 1:03:54.720 --> 1:03:59.920 that makes them vulnerable to their population and to domestic critics. 1:04:00.600 --> 1:04:06.040 They would have to essentially restore pride in some way. 1:04:06.160 --> 1:04:10.080 It's twenty two to eleven, nineteen minutes to eleven o'clock. 1:04:10.080 --> 1:04:13.400 It is one three one eight seven three. With apologies 1:04:13.440 --> 1:04:17.160 to our regular guests, including my mate Stephen Fennick, who 1:04:17.480 --> 1:04:20.760 we won't be hearing from today because we have decided 1:04:20.800 --> 1:04:24.439 to just provide rolling coverage following us again. If you've 1:04:24.520 --> 1:04:26.520 just joined US and O people, tune in and tune out. 1:04:27.760 --> 1:04:31.840 Donald Trump announcing on truth Social just under an hour ago. 1:04:31.960 --> 1:04:36.560 In fact, about fifty minutes ago, we've completed a very 1:04:36.600 --> 1:04:40.520 successful attack on three nucleo sides in Iran, including four 1:04:40.600 --> 1:04:43.920 do Natanz and Esfahan. He says, all planes are now 1:04:44.040 --> 1:04:48.120 outside of Iran air space. I understand he'll speak in 1:04:48.160 --> 1:04:51.120 around an hour and twenty minutes and we'll bring that 1:04:51.240 --> 1:04:55.320 to you. And we're talking to experts and others as 1:04:55.360 --> 1:04:58.560 we make our way through understanding this story. I guess 1:04:58.640 --> 1:05:01.400 we're at the point now where we wonder, what does 1:05:01.640 --> 1:05:06.080 Iran do? Heaven forbid thinking about that too long is 1:05:06.240 --> 1:05:09.160 very concerning. But what I now want to do is 1:05:09.200 --> 1:05:13.000 get to the United States and Nine's excellent US correspondent 1:05:13.480 --> 1:05:16.880 Lauren to Marzi, who you might recall from the streets 1:05:16.880 --> 1:05:19.280 of la a couple of weeks back, had to deal 1:05:19.320 --> 1:05:21.880 with one or two issues that she wished she hadn't 1:05:21.920 --> 1:05:24.520 had to deal with. But she's on the line now 1:05:24.520 --> 1:05:26.120 and can bring us up to date with what the 1:05:26.160 --> 1:05:28.800 people of the US are thinking about all of this. Lauren, 1:05:28.840 --> 1:05:32.160 I hope you will thank you for your time. Hi, Luke, 1:05:32.880 --> 1:05:35.919 So what do you think I remember coming to work 1:05:35.960 --> 1:05:39.040 and talking about three B twos headed to Guam. It 1:05:39.120 --> 1:05:41.800 seemed to be the case. And you know, I guess 1:05:41.840 --> 1:05:44.800 somewhat out of the blue today when Donald Trump was 1:05:44.840 --> 1:05:47.560 saying look over there, he was actually doing a look 1:05:47.600 --> 1:05:50.480 over here. He didn't want to wait two weeks and 1:05:50.560 --> 1:05:52.440 he had plans to act today. 1:05:53.760 --> 1:05:55.880 Yes, certainly you had that just two days ago, where 1:05:55.920 --> 1:05:57.800 you had the US President saying he was going to 1:05:58.000 --> 1:06:01.040 give this two week timeline for to come to the 1:06:01.120 --> 1:06:05.160 table on getting rid of their nuclear program, and instead 1:06:05.200 --> 1:06:08.680 it has been just two days with American warplanes now 1:06:08.760 --> 1:06:13.440 dropping these bombs on three different nuclear sites in Iran. 1:06:13.960 --> 1:06:17.640 What we are learning as this comes now from the 1:06:17.640 --> 1:06:19.920 White House and we expect to hear from the President 1:06:19.920 --> 1:06:23.960 in just over an hour's time, is that Israeli officials 1:06:24.000 --> 1:06:28.640 had been alerted to this attack shortly beforehand, and some 1:06:28.760 --> 1:06:31.960 members of Congress as well. But certainly, by and large 1:06:31.960 --> 1:06:35.800 this has come as a very fast moving and rapid 1:06:35.840 --> 1:06:39.760 development for certainly America and the world watching on. It 1:06:39.880 --> 1:06:44.120 is a serious escalation. Now the United States is now 1:06:44.240 --> 1:06:46.680 entering Israel's war against Iran. 1:06:47.000 --> 1:06:50.480 Yeah, and I guess the next move or what happens 1:06:50.520 --> 1:06:53.880 next is a key point here. I've spoken to experts 1:06:53.880 --> 1:06:58.600 who said the Iranians might just go for Middle Eastern 1:07:00.040 --> 1:07:02.600 American sight, you know, embassies and that kind of thing. 1:07:02.600 --> 1:07:05.200 Who's to know. But the other point we don't know 1:07:05.280 --> 1:07:08.880 is just how capable Iran is. I guess you wouldn't 1:07:08.880 --> 1:07:12.680 be doing this unless you knew what you'd be doing next. 1:07:13.040 --> 1:07:15.320 Do you know from what government are saying in the 1:07:15.320 --> 1:07:19.080 whispers around the White House, what the fees are in regards. 1:07:18.640 --> 1:07:22.680 To that, Well, certainly right now, US Bass, right throughout 1:07:22.680 --> 1:07:24.840 the Middle East has been put on the highest level 1:07:24.960 --> 1:07:26.600 of alert, So it gives you a little bit of 1:07:26.600 --> 1:07:29.160 indication that they are taking no chances here. And we 1:07:29.240 --> 1:07:32.280 know that the posturing over the past week or so 1:07:32.400 --> 1:07:35.640 has really changed for America era there. We've had these 1:07:36.520 --> 1:07:40.880 warships brought into the region to make sure that American 1:07:40.920 --> 1:07:43.680 assets and bases are backed up. But as to what 1:07:43.760 --> 1:07:46.960 happens next, well, Donald Trump says this should bring peace. 1:07:47.440 --> 1:07:50.439 You know, Iran must have now agree to end this war. 1:07:50.600 --> 1:07:53.200 So as to whether or not Iran is going to 1:07:54.400 --> 1:07:59.720 entertain any sort of conversation with the United States feels unlikely. 1:08:00.040 --> 1:08:05.600 And what we've heard from the Iranian leaders that they 1:08:05.640 --> 1:08:09.919 have ruled out any kind of conversations with America at 1:08:09.920 --> 1:08:12.800 this point in time and said that they will rebuild 1:08:12.840 --> 1:08:15.600 their nuclear assets if they were to be taken out. 1:08:15.680 --> 1:08:20.680 So it is certainly a very uncertain moment and we 1:08:20.760 --> 1:08:23.200 will wait now to see what Donald Trump has to 1:08:23.240 --> 1:08:24.360 say in the next. 1:08:24.160 --> 1:08:27.679 Hour, Lauren, to help you understand this so called split 1:08:28.120 --> 1:08:33.800 amongst the MAGA group, we had Tucker Carlson the other 1:08:33.880 --> 1:08:38.080 day have a fight with Ted Cruz over the population 1:08:38.160 --> 1:08:40.599 of Iran, because I think he is one of many 1:08:40.920 --> 1:08:44.400 amongst that group who think that America should stay away 1:08:44.439 --> 1:08:48.200 from foreign wars and the like. Why does that exist 1:08:48.320 --> 1:08:52.040 and how dangerous is this for the you know, the 1:08:52.080 --> 1:08:55.240 people that really love Trump that they might end up 1:08:55.280 --> 1:08:56.320 being split. 1:08:57.880 --> 1:09:01.240 Well, certainly you've seen that massive device over the past 1:09:01.280 --> 1:09:04.160 week or so in the Mega movement about how Donald 1:09:04.200 --> 1:09:08.960 Trump should react to the conflict between Israel obviously US 1:09:09.040 --> 1:09:12.759 ally and Iran. And you've got many of these Mega 1:09:12.760 --> 1:09:16.479 people saying that, you know, you simply cannot get involved 1:09:16.560 --> 1:09:20.200 in these foreign wars and we should be focusing on 1:09:20.240 --> 1:09:22.960 what is happening here in the United States, and others 1:09:23.000 --> 1:09:26.320 who are vocally saying that now is the time to 1:09:26.920 --> 1:09:30.120 drop the bombs on Iran. So it is very divisive 1:09:30.320 --> 1:09:33.920 among his fan base. And as to whether this changes, 1:09:34.200 --> 1:09:36.920 you know, the fabric of the Make America Greater Agan 1:09:37.040 --> 1:09:41.320 movement moving forward, it very likely could, but you know, 1:09:41.479 --> 1:09:44.160 there is just so much unknown at this point in 1:09:44.200 --> 1:09:47.080 time and about what are the next movements for America 1:09:47.120 --> 1:09:48.559 and that will impact that as well. 1:09:48.760 --> 1:09:52.040 Yeah, you're a style Lauren. Thanks so much for your time. Appreciated. 1:09:53.280 --> 1:09:53.840 Thanks Luke. 1:09:53.960 --> 1:09:58.360 Good on you. Lauren TOMARVII in the US with the 1:09:58.479 --> 1:10:01.519 very latest that she's hearing from nine Usual see Laurens 1:10:01.800 --> 1:10:07.880 reports no Doubt on nine News tonight. Lauren was you know, 1:10:08.439 --> 1:10:11.040 a large part of me hates doing this, but she 1:10:11.200 --> 1:10:14.360 was caught up in the la Street rights and she 1:10:14.520 --> 1:10:17.360 was she was hit in the in the leg by 1:10:17.360 --> 1:10:20.280 that rubber bullet. That doesn't define her because she's a 1:10:20.280 --> 1:10:24.519 brilliant reporter whatever it is in the US issues like that, 1:10:24.760 --> 1:10:29.440 or I've sent her to entertainment pieces and without being 1:10:29.479 --> 1:10:31.439 part of nine, she's a colleague. I was really worried 1:10:31.479 --> 1:10:33.720 about her. I reached out by a email and she 1:10:33.800 --> 1:10:36.680 replied just the other day saying that she was she 1:10:36.840 --> 1:10:40.280 was okay. I really you know, people go out in 1:10:40.320 --> 1:10:42.800 the street and do that kind of stuff just reporting 1:10:43.200 --> 1:10:47.160 news should be able to do that without having a 1:10:47.240 --> 1:10:49.680 rubber bullet aimed at them. It seemed that that's what 1:10:49.720 --> 1:10:51.880 it was. Anyway, that's Lauren if you didn't know, But 1:10:51.920 --> 1:10:54.759 She's not defined by that because she's a brilliant reporter. 1:10:55.160 --> 1:10:58.479 One three, one eight seven three. This is Weekends on 1:10:58.560 --> 1:11:01.200 two GB and four BC with Luke Grant. We are 1:11:01.240 --> 1:11:07.240 bringing you coverage of the US dropping three significant bombs 1:11:07.840 --> 1:11:12.240 on three nuclear sites in Iran. More after this eight 1:11:12.280 --> 1:11:14.800 to eleven. It is one three, one eight seven three 1:11:14.920 --> 1:11:19.400 the news this morning. The United States has carried out 1:11:19.479 --> 1:11:23.559 attacks on three nuclear sites in Iran. Donald Trump will 1:11:23.600 --> 1:11:26.760 speak at around midday. We'll bring you that as best 1:11:26.800 --> 1:11:29.600 we can at that point, and I'll speak to Michael Shubridge, 1:11:30.000 --> 1:11:32.640 a security expert who we spoke to last week on 1:11:32.680 --> 1:11:35.640 the show about this and other issues. He'll join us 1:11:35.680 --> 1:11:40.080 after eleven o'clock. We won't not have our eyes fixed 1:11:40.080 --> 1:11:41.920 on what's happening here in Ascolia, of course, and in 1:11:41.960 --> 1:11:44.400 Sydney and Brisbane at around the place. We'll do a 1:11:44.439 --> 1:11:47.559 bit of a reset after eleven, but Michael Schubridge will 1:11:48.160 --> 1:11:52.640 join us and we'll get his expertise on this. There's 1:11:52.720 --> 1:11:55.160 plenty of reaction from listeners. I thank you for that. 1:11:55.280 --> 1:11:57.840 I'll get to that because it's important to know what 1:11:57.920 --> 1:12:02.560 you think. And there's some further news on this developing 1:12:02.960 --> 1:12:04.960 in America that I get to as well. So there's 1:12:05.280 --> 1:12:08.479 moving bits everywhere here. Brett says, Luke, the US should 1:12:08.479 --> 1:12:13.960 tell Iran leadership that any retaliatory strikes and they will 1:12:13.960 --> 1:12:19.000 flatten Tehran. Make them think twice before action. Thank you, Brett. 1:12:20.560 --> 1:12:24.080 Another one, Luke, have a great holiday, well owned break 1:12:25.880 --> 1:12:27.880 all right, Thanks for your note. Thank you so much 1:12:27.920 --> 1:12:31.960 for that. Luke. Good to hear that our Foudoh will 1:12:32.000 --> 1:12:34.760 still be on the radio Monday. The other one who's 1:12:34.800 --> 1:12:37.640 been sorted out, Well done to the Trump star. I 1:12:37.640 --> 1:12:39.479 hope you have a good holiday, Melodie. Thank you. It's 1:12:39.560 --> 1:12:44.000 very kind of you, Luke. I just hope China doesn't 1:12:44.000 --> 1:12:48.480 do anything regarding Taiwan now the US is involved elsewhere, 1:12:48.720 --> 1:12:52.400 worrying times. Rob, thank you for your note. Appreciate that 1:12:53.920 --> 1:12:57.760 Luke's any interesting story on USA media former USA politician 1:12:57.800 --> 1:13:02.559 about Israel complaining about Iran's nuclear weapons despite the fact 1:13:02.800 --> 1:13:06.479 Israel having their own. Well, Colin, now you've come to 1:13:06.520 --> 1:13:09.960 me on that issue a few times this weekend. I've 1:13:09.960 --> 1:13:12.599 got note. I'll get time now to take that any further, 1:13:13.240 --> 1:13:18.479 but noted, I guess I should say, Kerry, San're interesting 1:13:18.520 --> 1:13:21.960 that we have a professor at Deacon University who advises 1:13:22.000 --> 1:13:25.320 a rak on defense and speaks out about where will 1:13:25.320 --> 1:13:28.519 fight back. Perhaps he didn't hear the leader in Iran 1:13:28.600 --> 1:13:31.120 state many times, we will not give up our nuclear 1:13:32.439 --> 1:13:36.360 all through us attempts to negotiate. All right, thank you 1:13:36.400 --> 1:13:38.880 for getting in touch. I think Trump is a good, 1:13:38.920 --> 1:13:42.800 strong leader, says PJ. And strong leaders need to make 1:13:42.800 --> 1:13:45.639 difficult decisions. I'm not saying he's perfect, but he's strong. 1:13:46.680 --> 1:13:51.040 The decision, however, is extremely dangerous, could very well spark 1:13:51.080 --> 1:13:54.879 a larger scale war. Trump would be lying to himself. 1:13:55.280 --> 1:13:58.679 He did not think that was a possibility. PJ. Thank 1:13:58.760 --> 1:14:03.599 you for getting in touch. And someone said, where does 1:14:03.640 --> 1:14:07.240 that leave? Here we go, Richard, Thank you Richard In Brisbane, 1:14:08.040 --> 1:14:13.639 those who formulated the lame taco acronym with regard to Trump, 1:14:14.280 --> 1:14:20.160 a taco taco stands for Trump always chickens out. Trump 1:14:20.200 --> 1:14:24.200 always chickens out. Richard says, where does that leave those 1:14:24.240 --> 1:14:28.240 who formulated that? They must be scratching their collective head? 1:14:29.360 --> 1:14:32.120 Thank you, Richard. He appears not to have tacoed this 1:14:32.520 --> 1:14:35.160 fair point five to eleven. Now it's almost time for 1:14:35.200 --> 1:14:39.000 the news at eleven o'clock. Reminding you that we understand 1:14:39.040 --> 1:14:43.439 Donald Trump will speak at midday given the significance of 1:14:43.560 --> 1:14:45.800 what's happened this morning. Again, if you've just joined us, 1:14:46.400 --> 1:14:49.280 the US have completed an attack, or what Donald Trump 1:14:49.320 --> 1:14:54.000 describes as a very successful attack on three nuclear sites 1:14:54.160 --> 1:14:58.800 in Iran, they being four doh Natanz and Sfahan or 1:14:58.880 --> 1:15:02.840 planes now outd side of Iran airspace. Some of the 1:15:02.840 --> 1:15:09.400 commentary is well, as you imagine, quite emotional. I have 1:15:09.479 --> 1:15:13.840 to say that one commentator from America says, there's plenty 1:15:13.880 --> 1:15:17.400 of people saying that this has started world War three. 1:15:17.560 --> 1:15:21.000 In fact, he says this will stop World War three 1:15:21.800 --> 1:15:27.839 because Iran had no interest in refusing to develop nuclear 1:15:27.880 --> 1:15:31.840 weapons and it was just a matter of time. So 1:15:32.120 --> 1:15:37.200 his view is that this will prevent world War three. Finally, 1:15:37.320 --> 1:15:40.720 he says, Donald Trump showed Iran there's no path for 1:15:40.840 --> 1:15:45.559 them to a nuclear weapon. At some point, someone seriously, 1:15:45.600 --> 1:15:48.559 I guess, had to make that point. Well, Donald Trump 1:15:48.680 --> 1:15:52.120 is today made that point, some would say, rightly emphatically 1:15:53.120 --> 1:15:57.200 again repeated the news three nuclear sites in Iran bombed 1:15:57.560 --> 1:16:12.880 by the US. The news is next across Australia, It's 1:16:12.960 --> 1:16:17.479 back to weekends with Luke Grant and a very good 1:16:17.520 --> 1:16:19.960 morning to you. Thank you for listening in Sitney on 1:16:20.000 --> 1:16:23.360 two GB, in Brisbane on four BC on a very 1:16:23.400 --> 1:16:28.200 significant day, the day when the US has attacked three 1:16:28.320 --> 1:16:32.479 nuclear sites in Iran. This was announced by or confirmed 1:16:32.479 --> 1:16:36.360 by President Donald Trump on truth Social He said, We've 1:16:36.360 --> 1:16:39.400 completed our very successful attack on the three nuclear sites 1:16:39.439 --> 1:16:44.839 in Iran, including four dough Natanz and Esfahan. All planes, 1:16:44.880 --> 1:16:49.400 he said, are now outside of Iranian airspace. We're monitoring 1:16:50.240 --> 1:16:53.720 news everywhere and we're speaking to experts both on and 1:16:53.840 --> 1:16:56.639 off air to get you the very latest. Now I've 1:16:57.240 --> 1:17:02.240 I've just myself heard extraordinary ad mission from Sean Hannity, 1:17:02.920 --> 1:17:07.000 who is one of the I guess you'd say senior 1:17:07.560 --> 1:17:14.440 or star personalities on Fox News in the US, probably commentators, 1:17:14.520 --> 1:17:19.479 the better descriptor. He has spoken as I thought he 1:17:19.600 --> 1:17:21.960 might have to. Donald Trump have a listened to this. 1:17:22.320 --> 1:17:26.040 I can confirm it was six bunker buster bombs that 1:17:26.080 --> 1:17:30.680 were used in that one, on that one fortified deeply 1:17:30.800 --> 1:17:34.880 buried inside that mountain site, the one that everybody worried about, 1:17:34.920 --> 1:17:37.000 the one that Israel was not going to be capable 1:17:37.040 --> 1:17:39.000 of taking out unless they went nuclear. 1:17:40.640 --> 1:17:45.200 Remarkable. I'll play that for you again that's Sean Hannity 1:17:45.400 --> 1:17:49.680 very close to the White House from Trump. Well, I 1:17:49.720 --> 1:17:54.679 nearly said Trump News. It nearly is whoops from Fox 1:17:54.760 --> 1:17:58.040 News who spoke to President Donald Trump. By the way, 1:17:58.040 --> 1:18:00.800 he'll speak to the people of the US end of 1:18:00.800 --> 1:18:03.639 the world in around fifty minutes, were told, and we'll 1:18:03.640 --> 1:18:06.960 bring that to you live. But again, this is Sean Hannity. 1:18:07.000 --> 1:18:11.120 We were told that and by Donald Trump that the 1:18:11.200 --> 1:18:17.280 attacks were on three nuclear sites in around these bunco 1:18:17.479 --> 1:18:21.519 buster bombs on the B two's. We thought that there 1:18:21.560 --> 1:18:26.360 were one for each site. But again Hannity said this, I. 1:18:26.320 --> 1:18:29.920 Can confirm it was six bunk or buster bombs that 1:18:29.960 --> 1:18:34.479 were used in that one on that one fortified deeply 1:18:34.560 --> 1:18:38.400 buried inside that mountain site, the one that everybody worried about, 1:18:38.400 --> 1:18:40.360 the one that Israel was not going to be capable 1:18:40.400 --> 1:18:42.240 of taking out unless they went nuclear. 1:18:42.600 --> 1:18:45.160 Yeah, there are and reports continue out of the US. 1:18:45.280 --> 1:18:48.760 One reason, according to The New York Times, the US 1:18:48.840 --> 1:18:52.600 may have struck multiple sites was that it's intelligence agencies 1:18:52.720 --> 1:18:56.320 estimated that Israeli attacks only set back around its nuclear 1:18:56.360 --> 1:19:00.439 program by about six months. The assessments also concluded that 1:19:00.560 --> 1:19:05.200 further Israeli attacks were unlikely to do more damage now, 1:19:05.360 --> 1:19:09.479 as I have so to other commentators asking the obvious, 1:19:09.520 --> 1:19:13.000 what happens next? And again. The New York Times say 1:19:13.080 --> 1:19:17.000 that experts say that depends on the extent of the 1:19:17.120 --> 1:19:21.799 US strikes on Iran. If Iranian leaders perceive the attacks 1:19:21.840 --> 1:19:25.240 as limited to nucleo sites, they might be more measured 1:19:25.280 --> 1:19:28.320 in their response. But if the attacks were seen as broad, 1:19:28.400 --> 1:19:33.599 Iranian leaders might face pressure for full fledged retaliation, such 1:19:33.600 --> 1:19:37.240 as striking American bases. One risk experts said was that 1:19:37.600 --> 1:19:42.160 Iran might see a disproportionate attack as only the only 1:19:42.200 --> 1:19:47.160 way to restore to Terrence. Jonathan Panakoff, director of the 1:19:47.320 --> 1:19:51.559 Scoutcraft Middle East Security Initiative at the Atlantic Council, saying, 1:19:51.920 --> 1:19:56.040 then you're looking at a significant escalation, a spiral that 1:19:56.080 --> 1:19:59.519 could get out of a hand quickly. Let's have a 1:19:59.600 --> 1:20:02.160 chatting out. Michael Schubridge. We spoke to Michael just a 1:20:02.200 --> 1:20:06.599 week ago, a director of Strategic Analysis Australia whose first 1:20:06.600 --> 1:20:11.240 class on all of this stuff. He's on the line, Michael, 1:20:10.240 --> 1:20:13.920 we speak again so soon. Who would have thought? And 1:20:13.960 --> 1:20:17.040 I'm interested in your take on the lead up to this. 1:20:17.640 --> 1:20:20.840 A couple of days back, Donald Trump is saying, you know, effectively, 1:20:20.840 --> 1:20:24.639 Iran's got two weeks, and then earlier today we were 1:20:24.680 --> 1:20:28.040 told that there were three B two's likely headed for Guam, 1:20:28.160 --> 1:20:31.080 and then we didn't even get to I think ten 1:20:31.080 --> 1:20:35.520 o'clock our time, and you know they've had the attacks. 1:20:36.160 --> 1:20:38.400 This has been a master diversion, hasn't it? Or is 1:20:38.439 --> 1:20:40.080 this predictable in your mind? 1:20:40.600 --> 1:20:43.719 Well, I think if the Iranians were banking on gosh, 1:20:43.720 --> 1:20:47.599 we've got two weeks, they wouldn't have stayed in control 1:20:47.680 --> 1:20:51.720 of the regime since the nineteen seventy nine revolution. So 1:20:51.800 --> 1:20:54.599 I don't think they would have been taking Trumpet his word. 1:20:55.200 --> 1:20:58.120 In fact, there's no trust between America and Iran and 1:20:58.160 --> 1:21:02.720 hasn't been a since nineteen So yes, it was a 1:21:02.840 --> 1:21:07.080 diversion from Donald Trump. But it does make his a 1:21:07.240 --> 1:21:10.200 call in the same thing where he announced the strikes, 1:21:10.520 --> 1:21:13.840 now is the time for peace look extremely hollow from 1:21:13.920 --> 1:21:17.639 the Iranian side. So I think you're right. Look, you've 1:21:18.120 --> 1:21:23.320 said some reactions. People are saying, well what next? And 1:21:23.439 --> 1:21:26.960 the Iranian regime now is the one that we all 1:21:27.040 --> 1:21:28.960 need to look to to see what do they do? 1:21:29.960 --> 1:21:31.759 They've got some options, Yeah. 1:21:31.840 --> 1:21:33.200 Tell me what those options are? 1:21:33.200 --> 1:21:36.800 If you don't mind, Michael, Well they can. The US 1:21:36.880 --> 1:21:40.719 has about nineteen different military facilities in the Middle East, 1:21:40.760 --> 1:21:45.839 which means within striking distance of Iranian ballistic missiles and drones. 1:21:46.600 --> 1:21:51.400 It's got a massive base in Qatar, naval base in Bahrain, 1:21:52.160 --> 1:21:57.920 so the Iranians can attack some or lots of those 1:21:58.040 --> 1:22:03.080 military facilities. And remember Israel and the US are busily 1:22:03.520 --> 1:22:07.280 working really hard to defend Israel against Iranian strikes. So 1:22:07.320 --> 1:22:10.759 this now widens a round set of targets and makes 1:22:10.800 --> 1:22:15.840 the missile and drone defense task much harder. They go on. 1:22:16.680 --> 1:22:19.599 Then there's the international oil supply, much of which goes 1:22:19.640 --> 1:22:23.240 through the straits of JR Muz, a narrow strait that 1:22:23.600 --> 1:22:27.479 would be reasonably easy to mine and minds might sound 1:22:27.520 --> 1:22:31.559 old fashioned, but they're very effective or strike tankers going 1:22:31.640 --> 1:22:35.840 up and down there. So Iran could really choose to 1:22:35.960 --> 1:22:39.120 escalate this a lot, or they could do a symbolic 1:22:39.800 --> 1:22:41.839 set of much more limited strikes. 1:22:42.000 --> 1:22:47.080 Yeah, things are so different. I mentioned before we started speaking, Michael, 1:22:47.120 --> 1:22:50.719 that Sean Hannity on Fox News has confirmed the number 1:22:50.720 --> 1:22:54.320 of bombs He's apparently spoken to Donald Trump. He's just 1:22:54.720 --> 1:22:55.320 said this. 1:22:55.720 --> 1:22:59.720 Toll now from a reliable source that for Dough they 1:23:00.360 --> 1:23:03.000 it is gone. They believe it is that it has 1:23:03.040 --> 1:23:04.280 been wiped out. 1:23:05.439 --> 1:23:09.040 I guess Donald Trump will set this straight when he 1:23:09.080 --> 1:23:14.120 speaks in around forty five minutes time. If that's the case, 1:23:14.320 --> 1:23:17.320 If that's gone, what do you think of that? 1:23:18.360 --> 1:23:21.960 Well, that's a major part of the Uranian nuclear program, 1:23:22.080 --> 1:23:25.160 So that's where they have been doing their enrichment of 1:23:25.360 --> 1:23:28.559 uranium to not weapons grade, but getting close. Like when 1:23:28.560 --> 1:23:31.400 you get you need ninety percent enrichment to have a bomb. 1:23:31.800 --> 1:23:34.360 They were at about sixty percent for enough for about 1:23:34.439 --> 1:23:37.760 nine or ten weapons. It's much easier to go from 1:23:37.920 --> 1:23:41.800 sixty to ninety percent then get from you know, under 1:23:41.840 --> 1:23:44.880 one percent to sixty percent, which is our natural uranium 1:23:44.880 --> 1:23:48.320 turns up. So that's a major blow to them producing 1:23:48.360 --> 1:23:53.840 weapons grade uranium. But their existing stockpile I think was 1:23:54.080 --> 1:23:57.320 at Isaphon, one of the other places that's been bombed. 1:23:57.720 --> 1:24:00.320 But the Iranians have had lots of warning, they may 1:24:00.360 --> 1:24:05.200 have dispersed some of their holdings. So it's a major 1:24:05.240 --> 1:24:09.040 setback to the Ranian program, particularly if they also destroyed 1:24:09.040 --> 1:24:11.960 the the town's underground and Richmond site, which was a 1:24:12.040 --> 1:24:16.800 very big en Richmond site I suppose battle damage assessment 1:24:17.240 --> 1:24:21.120 needs to be available first, and Sean Hannity is many things, 1:24:21.160 --> 1:24:24.439 but I don't think he's an expert battle damage assessment person. 1:24:27.040 --> 1:24:31.360 Beautifully put by you, Michael. I've also seen reports that 1:24:31.880 --> 1:24:36.320 in Israel they're saying to the population, don't go to 1:24:36.400 --> 1:24:40.800 work tomorrow. Work's been canceled. Stay near a bunker. They're 1:24:40.880 --> 1:24:43.800 expecting the Iranians to come back hard at them. 1:24:43.880 --> 1:24:49.720 Obviously, Yes, of course, Iran has been losing this conflict 1:24:49.800 --> 1:24:52.400 so far. I mean probably in a broader sense since 1:24:52.439 --> 1:24:55.920 the Master attacks, but certainly in the last week with 1:24:56.120 --> 1:24:59.839 the destruction of a lot of the Iranian military command 1:25:00.760 --> 1:25:05.080 and also a damage to their missile sides, production sides 1:25:05.120 --> 1:25:08.599 and launchers, and they've been so they're on the back foot. 1:25:09.080 --> 1:25:12.160 I'm not thinking that they're in a great position to 1:25:12.400 --> 1:25:17.240 really take amazingly effective steps striking back. I think it'd 1:25:17.280 --> 1:25:19.960 be more like a drunken boxer flailing. 1:25:19.520 --> 1:25:25.120 Out right and Iran's allies, what'll they do, What'll they say? 1:25:25.800 --> 1:25:28.880 Well, this is interesting, isn't it. Because Vladimir Putin is 1:25:29.200 --> 1:25:33.040 a very close partner of Iran, He's dependent on Iranian 1:25:33.080 --> 1:25:37.720 military supplies, particularly drones, in his war in Ukraine. He's 1:25:37.760 --> 1:25:40.920 producing Iranian designs now, but I think he's still got 1:25:40.960 --> 1:25:44.960 a dependency there. China's been a partner of Iran, but 1:25:45.080 --> 1:25:48.720 they're very quiet at the moment, and North Korea is 1:25:48.800 --> 1:25:52.760 busy helping Vladimir Putin rebuild Kursk, so I don't think 1:25:52.760 --> 1:25:56.360 they're going to get any help. And the Egyptian leader 1:25:56.479 --> 1:26:00.840 Sisi called Iran and said, we think pieces the way, 1:26:00.920 --> 1:26:04.479 we wouldn't support US strikes. But that is a million 1:26:04.560 --> 1:26:08.719 miles from any Middle Eastern country joining the Iranian side. 1:26:08.800 --> 1:26:10.400 That is not going to happen. 1:26:11.479 --> 1:26:14.760 Already, I've had listeners suggest and this will not out 1:26:14.800 --> 1:26:18.120 be something that people talk about that sleep are sells 1:26:18.200 --> 1:26:23.520 within the United States. You can't discount anything, can you. 1:26:23.560 --> 1:26:28.600 No. Iran has built heavily armed terrorist proxies in the 1:26:28.640 --> 1:26:35.160 Middle East, and it has had a long campaign against America, 1:26:35.240 --> 1:26:37.960 calling it the Great Satan. Remember the calls Israel the 1:26:38.000 --> 1:26:41.200 Little Satan and America the Great Satan. This will only 1:26:41.240 --> 1:26:45.080 have made some of the more extreme people associated with 1:26:45.120 --> 1:26:48.760 the Iranian regime keen to strike back at America any 1:26:48.760 --> 1:26:52.760 way they can. And it's interesting to think in a 1:26:52.760 --> 1:26:57.559 few years from Now, what's this do with radical violent 1:26:58.120 --> 1:27:01.640 Islamic terrorism. It probably gives that a whole boost in 1:27:01.680 --> 1:27:02.160 the arms. 1:27:02.360 --> 1:27:07.599 Yeah, And just in regards to how this politically plays 1:27:07.640 --> 1:27:12.240 out in the United States, Michael Contrump does decide to 1:27:12.680 --> 1:27:16.280 do what's happened this morning to Iran, would there have 1:27:16.320 --> 1:27:19.360 been other members of the United States government who have 1:27:19.479 --> 1:27:22.320 to agree to this or can sde that that's the 1:27:22.400 --> 1:27:24.920 right way forward? Do you know how that works internally? 1:27:25.200 --> 1:27:25.439 Well? 1:27:25.479 --> 1:27:29.200 I think the US Congress are in the middle of 1:27:29.240 --> 1:27:32.000 an armorss or with the President about whether he has 1:27:32.160 --> 1:27:36.120 powers to use the military this way. It's an armorous 1:27:36.160 --> 1:27:39.320 lover war powers. But I think the executive power of 1:27:39.400 --> 1:27:43.240 the US President lets him do this in these circumstances 1:27:43.280 --> 1:27:47.759 and inform Congress, So I think legally he will be okay. 1:27:48.280 --> 1:27:51.920 But I think the bigger problem will be Trump thinks 1:27:51.960 --> 1:27:55.200 this is going to be a limited, very successful mission. 1:27:55.800 --> 1:28:00.639 What if there are a considerable number of US military 1:28:00.640 --> 1:28:05.840 casualties from Iranian broader strikes against US bases. What if 1:28:06.160 --> 1:28:09.400 the American military presence in countries like Qatar and the 1:28:09.560 --> 1:28:14.080 UAE gets threatened with ejection because it's bringing a conflict 1:28:14.080 --> 1:28:16.760 down on their heads and what if the world's oil 1:28:16.840 --> 1:28:21.280 suppliers disrupted. All of those things will stop Trump from 1:28:21.360 --> 1:28:24.800 being able to just do a limited subcontractor effort for 1:28:25.000 --> 1:28:27.920 Israel destroying the nuclear sites and then getting. 1:28:27.600 --> 1:28:32.559 Out outstanding analysis. Michael, No surprises there, my friends, stay well. 1:28:32.600 --> 1:28:33.760 Thank you so much for your time. 1:28:34.160 --> 1:28:35.160 Thanks for good on you. 1:28:35.400 --> 1:28:41.920 Yeah you too, outstanding Michael Schubridge, Director Strategic Analysis Australia. 1:28:41.920 --> 1:28:45.479 And again I really thank Michael for jumping on the 1:28:45.520 --> 1:28:50.639 line and my team here today doing brilliant work. Glama. 1:28:50.760 --> 1:28:52.640 Just to sit here and talk with these experts and 1:28:53.240 --> 1:28:58.040 bring you what's happening is outstanding. Thank you all. It's 1:28:58.120 --> 1:29:00.439 coming up to twenty past eleven. We'll take a back 1:29:00.479 --> 1:29:03.879 after this. It's Weekends with Luke Grant on two GBN, 1:29:03.960 --> 1:29:07.560 four BC and our app listeners around Australia. Thank you 1:29:07.560 --> 1:29:11.680 for your company. We are providing rolling coverage after the 1:29:11.960 --> 1:29:17.280 US has bombed the nuclear sites in Iran. Donald Trump 1:29:17.320 --> 1:29:19.960 announced this at ten to ten this morning on his 1:29:20.240 --> 1:29:24.559 social media platform. He's due to speak at midday. We 1:29:24.600 --> 1:29:28.679 will bring you that live already. Sean Hannity at Fox News, 1:29:28.720 --> 1:29:32.479 who has Donald Trump's phone number, has been in touch 1:29:32.520 --> 1:29:37.600 and we're listening to some of Hannity's words. He's suggested 1:29:37.640 --> 1:29:41.960 that they dropped six of those bunker buster bombs on 1:29:42.160 --> 1:29:50.280 the main site four doh fordw and we've had other 1:29:50.320 --> 1:29:53.519 attacks at Natantan s Fahan. These are the nuclear sites 1:29:53.840 --> 1:29:56.960 in Iran, hann It. He has made the point that 1:29:57.840 --> 1:30:03.000 the Iranian foreign Minister A Ragchi said in this type 1:30:03.000 --> 1:30:05.559 in just yesterday, and you look to see what might 1:30:05.600 --> 1:30:11.000 have led this happening this morning our time. This is 1:30:11.040 --> 1:30:14.360 the Iranian foreign minister yesterday. 1:30:14.880 --> 1:30:18.160 We are not seeking negotiations. It is the Americans who 1:30:18.200 --> 1:30:22.559 want talks. They've sent messages several times, very serious ones, 1:30:23.160 --> 1:30:25.720 but we made it explicitly clear to them that as 1:30:25.760 --> 1:30:30.040 long as this aggression and invasion continues, there is absolutely 1:30:30.040 --> 1:30:33.919 no room for talk or just pomacy. We are engaged 1:30:33.920 --> 1:30:37.479 in legitimate self defense and this defense will not stop 1:30:37.560 --> 1:30:41.360 under any circumstances. We have nothing to discuss with the 1:30:41.439 --> 1:30:44.240 United States, which is a partner in these crimes. 1:30:44.600 --> 1:30:47.160 Yeah, so I guess if you hear that, that's obviously 1:30:47.880 --> 1:30:52.280 through a translator, I think on Fox in the United States. 1:30:52.760 --> 1:30:57.000 I mean, when you hear that there was no opportunity 1:30:57.040 --> 1:30:59.799 for a sit down and a chin wag about these issues, 1:31:00.040 --> 1:31:02.639 and they made their mind up whether or not that's 1:31:02.680 --> 1:31:04.519 what they were saying away from the cameras. I guess 1:31:04.520 --> 1:31:11.200 we don't know now. Some further updates. Mehdi Mahammad Mahammadi 1:31:12.040 --> 1:31:16.360 with apologies, a senior advisor to Muhammad Gallabaf, the speaker 1:31:16.439 --> 1:31:19.080 of Iran's parliament, said in a post on social media 1:31:19.520 --> 1:31:25.320 that Iran had been anticipating attacks on Fodoh for several nights, 1:31:25.360 --> 1:31:28.599 saying the site had been evacuated a long time ago 1:31:29.240 --> 1:31:32.840 and the damages are not irreversible, he wrote, adding you 1:31:32.960 --> 1:31:39.200 cannot bomb knowledge. Interesting Also, Israel was alerted that the 1:31:39.200 --> 1:31:41.479 bombs were going to be dropped at some point before 1:31:41.520 --> 1:31:45.439 the strikes happened. The President Donald Trump spoke with Benjamin 1:31:45.439 --> 1:31:50.080 nettan Yahoo afterward, according to someone who knew but was 1:31:50.120 --> 1:31:54.000 not authorized to speak publicly. Shortly after the US struck 1:31:54.040 --> 1:31:58.520 teen nucleosides in Iran, Israel placed more stringent wartime restrictions 1:31:58.520 --> 1:32:02.040 on civilian signaling a greater threat from Iran. I raised 1:32:02.080 --> 1:32:07.200 this with Michael Schubridge, the Home Front Command, the Israeli 1:32:07.320 --> 1:32:13.120 military unit. They issued guidelines to civilians will now only 1:32:13.120 --> 1:32:18.400 allow essential workers to report in person. All gatherings, including 1:32:18.600 --> 1:32:23.799 educational activities, are banned. On Wednesday, Israel had temporarily lifted 1:32:23.800 --> 1:32:28.280 those restrictions and allowed gatherings of up to thirty people. 1:32:29.160 --> 1:32:33.360 That again goes along, and we're all playing a guessing 1:32:33.400 --> 1:32:36.839 game here what the retaliation will be, what the response 1:32:36.880 --> 1:32:41.280 from Iran will be now? The New York Times saying 1:32:41.280 --> 1:32:44.920 the president, who campaigned on an American first platform that 1:32:45.080 --> 1:32:48.559 was predicated on the US not engaging in any wars 1:32:48.560 --> 1:32:51.800 abroad during his time in office, has now decided to 1:32:51.960 --> 1:32:56.559 enter a war that puts American troops at risk. New 1:32:56.640 --> 1:33:01.280 York Times saying American officials who review yued intelligence reports 1:33:01.320 --> 1:33:04.760 that Iran was prepared to strike US military bases and 1:33:04.880 --> 1:33:08.840 equipment in the Middle East should the US join Israel's 1:33:08.880 --> 1:33:13.880 war against the country. Again, these are things that will 1:33:13.920 --> 1:33:18.799 develop over the next little bit. Plenty of reaction from listeners. 1:33:18.880 --> 1:33:22.040 Thank you so much for giving us his views. Happy 1:33:22.040 --> 1:33:25.120 to share them with our listeners. Not all of them 1:33:25.160 --> 1:33:27.679 directly related to this, most of them certainly are. Luke, 1:33:27.760 --> 1:33:31.320 Thank god you can pronounce nuclear correctly. You're a man 1:33:31.360 --> 1:33:38.920 of education, all right. Thanks Terry and Simon, thank you 1:33:38.920 --> 1:33:42.000 for your note. Karen says, morning, Luke. The big question 1:33:42.120 --> 1:33:45.719 is why Iran was building nuclear weapons. We can only speculate, Karen, 1:33:45.800 --> 1:33:52.280 thank you excellent presentation. I bet you're expecting a quiet day, well, David, 1:33:54.600 --> 1:33:57.160 not unfair to say that, but thank you for your feedback. 1:33:57.880 --> 1:34:01.400 Trump reportedly tells rauters that they'd stop immediately or I'll 1:34:01.439 --> 1:34:07.880 get hit again. Fox is saying thirty Tomahawk missiles were 1:34:07.960 --> 1:34:11.880 used as well. I've seen those reports and thank you 1:34:11.880 --> 1:34:15.519 for getting in touch. I'm just now relying on Look. 1:34:15.760 --> 1:34:19.120 I knew that Sean Hannity and Donald Trump would talk, 1:34:19.600 --> 1:34:22.120 which is why when we saw him on air, we 1:34:22.120 --> 1:34:25.400 thought it was important to listen in. But I know 1:34:25.439 --> 1:34:29.080 Hannity he's made mention of the Tomahawk missiles as well. 1:34:29.120 --> 1:34:32.519 But we'll hear from the President himself in half an hour. 1:34:33.680 --> 1:34:36.080 I just don't know about the speculation now, but thank you. 1:34:37.360 --> 1:34:41.240 Good a Richard, he says Luke. Hi Michael Schubridge's Great Overview. 1:34:41.840 --> 1:34:44.559 Australia also needs to go on alert at our borders, 1:34:44.680 --> 1:34:48.680 watch internally for sleeper cells here Asi. I said a 1:34:48.680 --> 1:34:55.559 few years ago that there are active suspect terrorists in Australia. Well, 1:34:56.439 --> 1:34:59.280 that may or may not be the case, Richard. I 1:34:59.280 --> 1:35:02.280 guess the she'll be right. Australian attitude will be well, 1:35:02.320 --> 1:35:05.120 this is a problem for the United States, and I 1:35:05.120 --> 1:35:11.519 think initially that that's not unfair. We'll hear from government 1:35:11.560 --> 1:35:16.120 at some point. The Estonian government, I mean, they play 1:35:16.160 --> 1:35:18.599 no role in this, so I don't know if there's 1:35:19.000 --> 1:35:22.680 if there's anything that they have to say of much consequence, 1:35:22.960 --> 1:35:25.519 but we'll bring that to you. Thank you, mate for 1:35:25.560 --> 1:35:29.280 getting in touch. I understand the Benjamin net and Yahoo 1:35:29.560 --> 1:35:33.639 will make an address after Donald Trump speaks at midday. Again, 1:35:33.680 --> 1:35:35.559 we'll bring you as much of that as we can. 1:35:36.560 --> 1:35:40.920 As it happens, you'll hear that here Live one three 1:35:40.960 --> 1:35:44.040 one eight seven three. Thank you for the texts zero 1:35:44.120 --> 1:35:47.719 four six zero eight seven three eight seven three. Daniel 1:35:47.760 --> 1:35:50.920 says Donald J. Trump has to be the greatest leader 1:35:51.000 --> 1:35:55.240 of all time for peace and freedom. Today should be 1:35:55.240 --> 1:36:01.559 declared World Peace Day. Somewhat provocative, Daniel, thank you. Political 1:36:01.640 --> 1:36:04.920 rulers of Iran are already safely exiled to Russia in 1:36:05.120 --> 1:36:08.920 a pre strike deal, says Alan approved by Trump. A 1:36:09.040 --> 1:36:12.160 ran now little more than a giant petrol station without 1:36:12.200 --> 1:36:16.120 a proprietor. I wonder who'll emerges a new leader of 1:36:16.240 --> 1:36:20.320 liberated Iran, says Alan, Thank you. Alan Simon says what 1:36:20.400 --> 1:36:25.200 a scary world. Can't argue with that, mate, Thank you 1:36:25.240 --> 1:36:28.680 for getting in touch. Ken says, how now am I 1:36:28.760 --> 1:36:31.200 going to meet with Trumpston? 1:36:31.200 --> 1:36:31.400 Now? 1:36:31.520 --> 1:36:36.000 Well, fair enough, that's an issue for a later day. 1:36:36.000 --> 1:36:39.080 I would say, mate, Brett, thank you for your note. 1:36:40.080 --> 1:36:43.959 Why on earth did Trump attack Fodoh Leavey? I could understand, 1:36:43.960 --> 1:36:47.280 but not Ben? Yeah, Alan, We've done that joke several times. 1:36:47.320 --> 1:36:53.160 In fact, Ben's been in touch. Unfortunate, isn't it? Thank 1:36:53.200 --> 1:36:55.880 you mate, Good day, Luke. Do you think Australia will 1:36:55.880 --> 1:36:58.080 be asked to be involved in any way? So what 1:36:58.120 --> 1:37:00.000 do you think will be the view of the peace 1:37:00.240 --> 1:37:03.320 of the Foreign Minister? Well, I think sev there'll be 1:37:03.360 --> 1:37:06.599 no role other than rescuing Australians who may or may 1:37:06.640 --> 1:37:10.680 not be in Iran, which reminds me and brings me 1:37:10.760 --> 1:37:13.080 back to a story I shared with you yesterday. You'll 1:37:13.120 --> 1:37:17.000 remember that we had a listener get in touch with 1:37:17.080 --> 1:37:22.720 us around eleven, telling us about her mum in her 1:37:22.800 --> 1:37:27.400 seventies and how she was trying to get out of Iran, 1:37:28.640 --> 1:37:30.800 and she had been told that you have to go 1:37:30.840 --> 1:37:34.240 to a certain border and you receive a code and 1:37:34.240 --> 1:37:38.479 then you can cross the border. And my listener was 1:37:38.600 --> 1:37:42.200 very concerned about her mum because despite the fact that 1:37:42.280 --> 1:37:46.400 this procedure was what she was seeking to follow, when 1:37:46.439 --> 1:37:51.599 she got to the border, much of the support was 1:37:51.760 --> 1:37:55.000 in fact all of it was Mia. And I said, 1:37:55.040 --> 1:37:59.560 on behalf of my listener, who I didn't name that 1:38:00.040 --> 1:38:04.160 contact DFAT, which we did, and they did come back 1:38:04.200 --> 1:38:06.920 to us, and this must be very concerning for my 1:38:07.040 --> 1:38:12.040 listener with her mum in Iran. And again I won't 1:38:12.520 --> 1:38:16.800 name this listener. We sought a statement from DFAT and 1:38:16.800 --> 1:38:21.080 we got this DEFAT is providing consular assistance to the 1:38:21.120 --> 1:38:25.479 family of an Australian who wishes to leave Iran. Owing 1:38:25.520 --> 1:38:28.960 to our privacy obligations, were unable to provide further comment. 1:38:31.160 --> 1:38:34.960 Somewhat predictably and to a less extent understandably, I mean, we. 1:38:36.479 --> 1:38:37.000 Gave no. 1:38:38.479 --> 1:38:42.280 Identification at all of either my listener or her mum. 1:38:43.720 --> 1:38:48.559 They said, DEFAT is deploying consular staff to Asherbaijan, including 1:38:48.560 --> 1:38:53.439 it it's border crossing to support Australians departing Iran. They say, 1:38:53.479 --> 1:38:56.280 we asked Australians in Iran who wished to depart to 1:38:56.320 --> 1:39:00.720 do it if it is safe. So we're working with 1:39:00.720 --> 1:39:04.960 Australians registered in Iran to facilitate board acrossing codes and 1:39:05.080 --> 1:39:11.520 acknowledge that unstable internet connectivity in Iranas make it more difficult. Unfortunately, 1:39:11.520 --> 1:39:14.120 they told us that this stage our ability to provide 1:39:14.160 --> 1:39:18.200 consular services is extremely limited due to the situation on 1:39:18.240 --> 1:39:24.920 the ground, and then they say away from that which 1:39:24.960 --> 1:39:26.760 they were allowed. You know, they were happy for me 1:39:26.800 --> 1:39:29.519 to quote. They told me that you need a border 1:39:29.560 --> 1:39:33.960 crossing code and a visa across from Iran to Azerbaijan. 1:39:35.040 --> 1:39:38.200 My listener, who I again will not identify and whose 1:39:38.280 --> 1:39:40.160 mum is trying to get out of Iran, is back 1:39:40.200 --> 1:39:46.120 on the line. Very worrying times. We're thinking about you 1:39:46.160 --> 1:39:50.439 and your mum in particular. We've been in touch with defact. 1:39:50.479 --> 1:39:52.679 I know my producers told you what they had to say, 1:39:53.160 --> 1:39:55.280 and I hope that you've had the chance to talk 1:39:55.320 --> 1:39:57.640 to them and had some better news. Please tell me 1:39:57.680 --> 1:40:00.599 you have, could. 1:40:02.400 --> 1:40:05.200 There's still nothing. She's been at the border for the 1:40:05.240 --> 1:40:11.479 past almost forty eight hours now and watching internationals of 1:40:11.640 --> 1:40:14.599 the UK going through within two hours with their codes, 1:40:15.600 --> 1:40:19.639 and Australia cannot produce any We've got about sixteen hundred 1:40:19.960 --> 1:40:24.240 Australian citizens in Iran, and I mean she hasn't seen 1:40:24.280 --> 1:40:29.439 any other citizens get to the border yet, so they 1:40:29.439 --> 1:40:32.599 would have the same problem. We need this authorization code. 1:40:32.720 --> 1:40:37.160 Without it, she cannot leave. She's now out of her 1:40:37.200 --> 1:40:41.519 heart medication. She's got a heart condition and there's nowhere 1:40:41.560 --> 1:40:44.839 to actually get the medication. So it's becoming really critical 1:40:44.920 --> 1:40:48.479 for her to get some kind of medical help to 1:40:48.520 --> 1:40:51.800 get medication, and there's not much on the other side 1:40:51.840 --> 1:40:54.120 of the border. So they've fad it, telling me as 1:40:54.160 --> 1:40:56.639 soon as she gets across. You know, we've got medicines, 1:40:56.680 --> 1:41:00.920 we've got chemists all over and they're her what she needs. 1:41:00.960 --> 1:41:05.000 But how does she get across? How do Australians get across? 1:41:05.080 --> 1:41:08.479 Yeah, you know, I think when we spoke yesterday the 1:41:09.040 --> 1:41:13.879 communication was difficult against it comes down to internet access. 1:41:13.960 --> 1:41:16.080 I mean, that's the world we live in these days. 1:41:16.080 --> 1:41:18.920 But have you been able to talk to youmum much. 1:41:19.920 --> 1:41:22.760 It's on and off very short period and it only 1:41:22.760 --> 1:41:25.640 happens when she gets very close to the border, So 1:41:25.720 --> 1:41:27.800 I don't know how far away she has to go. 1:41:28.040 --> 1:41:30.960 But when she gets within a few meters of the 1:41:31.000 --> 1:41:33.280 actual border cross things, she'll have a bit of Internet 1:41:33.800 --> 1:41:37.320 and she sends through you know, comments or where she's at. 1:41:37.520 --> 1:41:39.639 So I leave messages, but I don't know if she's 1:41:39.680 --> 1:41:40.160 getting them. 1:41:40.920 --> 1:41:42.559 Do you know exactly where she is? 1:41:43.640 --> 1:41:46.519 Yes, it's a place called don't. 1:41:46.360 --> 1:41:49.880 Tell don't tell me, don't tell me. I'm trying. I'm 1:41:49.920 --> 1:41:52.200 only saying that because I don't want anything you and 1:41:52.240 --> 1:41:56.000 I talk about to make matters worse, which is why, 1:41:56.840 --> 1:41:58.400 as much as I love the fact we're talking, I 1:41:58.400 --> 1:42:01.000 don't want to identify you. So let me ask you this. Then, 1:42:02.000 --> 1:42:06.160 have you spoken directly to anyone from Foreign Affairs and Trade? 1:42:06.720 --> 1:42:07.040 Yes? 1:42:07.680 --> 1:42:10.759 Are they able to give you any glimmer of hope 1:42:11.160 --> 1:42:12.360 that would help us know? 1:42:13.520 --> 1:42:16.080 No, they're basically saying we're doing all we can. There's 1:42:16.080 --> 1:42:18.639 a crisis line is twenty four hours, which is wonderful, 1:42:18.680 --> 1:42:21.840 but when you're call, they just say we can't there's 1:42:21.840 --> 1:42:26.240 nothing we can do. I speak and certain for managers 1:42:26.479 --> 1:42:29.080 and they've called me yesterday as well as the last 1:42:29.080 --> 1:42:31.639 contact they made, and they said we're trying to get 1:42:31.640 --> 1:42:35.920 this authorization that we're having difficulty they've got. 1:42:35.800 --> 1:42:40.920 To produce a code and a visa. That can't be Look, 1:42:40.960 --> 1:42:43.439 I'm not involved. That can't be that hard, surely, can it. 1:42:44.800 --> 1:42:47.479 You would think so an Australian citizen would hope to 1:42:47.479 --> 1:42:50.360 get a visa, right, it can't be that hard. But 1:42:50.439 --> 1:42:52.880 even the visa, they don't want to divorder. They're saying, 1:42:52.920 --> 1:42:55.360 we will let you cross just with a code. So 1:42:55.400 --> 1:42:58.599 I say email or give a verbal code. They will 1:42:58.680 --> 1:43:00.799 let them across and then once there they can apply 1:43:00.840 --> 1:43:03.960 for a VIZA. And she's got her Australian passport there, 1:43:04.000 --> 1:43:07.160 so you think, okay, just give me the code and 1:43:07.400 --> 1:43:12.240 I can cross to safety. So the airspace is obviously closed. 1:43:12.240 --> 1:43:14.800 We're not asking for flights, we're not asking for, you know, 1:43:15.240 --> 1:43:17.920 anything miraculous, just a coach to get across the border 1:43:18.640 --> 1:43:20.519 so she can come home to safety, you know. 1:43:21.160 --> 1:43:25.280 And she was doing some work in hospitals and. 1:43:26.960 --> 1:43:30.080 She's been a nurse and midwife in Australian in Sydney 1:43:30.120 --> 1:43:33.320 hospitals for the past forty years, the last fifteen years 1:43:33.439 --> 1:43:38.960 which she's an educator with several universities and she does facilitations, 1:43:39.000 --> 1:43:43.400 so she teaches nurses in hospitals. She does volunteer work. 1:43:43.479 --> 1:43:46.320 We both do their several hospitals, and you know, I 1:43:46.640 --> 1:43:50.160 remember all the stuff we've done over the years. Now 1:43:50.320 --> 1:43:54.080 now she needs help, you know, seventy year old woman alone. 1:43:54.600 --> 1:43:58.320 I don't know why the government can't help. She's all 1:43:58.360 --> 1:43:59.960 her life has been a life. 1:44:00.960 --> 1:44:05.120 Yeah, okay, I won't put you through any more of 1:44:05.160 --> 1:44:10.040 this because it look again, I cannot imagine what you're 1:44:10.080 --> 1:44:12.680 going through. Lots of love to you and anything we 1:44:12.720 --> 1:44:16.599 can do. And I just I just make this plea 1:44:17.560 --> 1:44:21.760 And I know I know you're listening. The department involved here. 1:44:23.479 --> 1:44:27.080 You know my listener should not be bringing your helpline. 1:44:27.920 --> 1:44:32.200 You should know her number off by heart. And here's 1:44:32.560 --> 1:44:36.120 here's a seventy year old Australian who seems to me 1:44:36.200 --> 1:44:40.240 was doing some work around health and volunteering and who 1:44:40.280 --> 1:44:43.680 wants to come home and needs medication and can't get 1:44:43.680 --> 1:44:48.000 a bloody code. And we sent a playing load of 1:44:49.000 --> 1:44:54.080 military people to help get Australians out of here. I mean, 1:44:54.760 --> 1:44:57.879 what am I missing? I don't want to be unkind 1:44:58.920 --> 1:45:03.479 because I can only imagine how difficult this is. But 1:45:03.560 --> 1:45:07.120 if my listener from a capital city in Australia can 1:45:07.160 --> 1:45:10.519 talk to her mum and she knows where she is, 1:45:12.720 --> 1:45:14.479 then it wouldn't be hard for you to know where 1:45:14.520 --> 1:45:22.559 she is and generate a code or something. I mean, 1:45:22.600 --> 1:45:26.479 you shake your head, don't you. Anyway, it's not about us. 1:45:26.520 --> 1:45:29.519 It's about my listener and her mum. And we'll keep 1:45:29.560 --> 1:45:32.360 across it as best we can. And you know, the 1:45:32.400 --> 1:45:36.360 department came back yesterday and a typical poly speak wishy 1:45:36.520 --> 1:45:41.880 washy say nothing but hopefully keep them quiet statement. And 1:45:42.160 --> 1:45:44.479 I reckon that we're all a bit smarter than you 1:45:44.520 --> 1:45:50.680 give us credit for. And you might just want to 1:45:50.720 --> 1:45:57.800 get up and off your rample and do something. It's 1:45:57.800 --> 1:46:00.280 eighteen to midday now, it's coming up to a court. 1:46:00.320 --> 1:46:03.720 It a midday. US President Donald Trump is set to 1:46:03.760 --> 1:46:07.400 speak at midday, and if you've just joined us, we're 1:46:07.439 --> 1:46:11.280 providing you with rolling coverage on the attack by the 1:46:11.400 --> 1:46:16.880 United States on three nuclear sites in Iran. President Donald 1:46:16.920 --> 1:46:20.759 Trump announced the attack at ten to ten, so about 1:46:20.800 --> 1:46:24.640 two hours ago, and since then we've been waiting for 1:46:24.720 --> 1:46:27.439 him to speak. That's about ten minutes away from now, 1:46:27.960 --> 1:46:31.639 and of course it's almost dawn in Israel, and Israel's 1:46:31.640 --> 1:46:34.559 top leadership has been silent so far in these US 1:46:34.640 --> 1:46:39.320 attacks in April. Important to not Prime Minister Benjamin Thatt 1:46:39.320 --> 1:46:43.360 in Yahoo after US to use its bunker buster bombs 1:46:43.400 --> 1:46:47.559 to destroy the underground nuclear site at fod Oh. But 1:46:47.600 --> 1:46:51.920 there's been no public statement yet. We understand that he will. 1:46:51.960 --> 1:46:54.960 That is Benjamin that in Yahoo. We'll speak after we 1:46:55.080 --> 1:46:58.880 hear from Donald Trump, which I think is around fifteen 1:46:58.880 --> 1:47:02.559 minutes to be fairteen minutes away from now now. Mike Johnson, 1:47:02.600 --> 1:47:06.960 the Republican Speaker of the US House, has made this statement, 1:47:07.040 --> 1:47:10.800 saying the military operations in Iran should serve as a 1:47:10.800 --> 1:47:14.920 clearer martyr to our adversaries and allies that President Trump 1:47:14.960 --> 1:47:19.000 means what he says. The President gave Iran's leader every 1:47:19.000 --> 1:47:21.719 opportunity to make a deal, but Iran refused to commit 1:47:22.160 --> 1:47:27.800 to a nuclear disarmament agreement. President Trump has been consistent 1:47:28.520 --> 1:47:32.280 and clear that a nuclear armed Iran will not be tolerated. 1:47:33.000 --> 1:47:36.559 That posture, he says, has now been enforced with strength, precision, 1:47:36.600 --> 1:47:41.560 and clarity. The President's decisive action prevents the world's largest 1:47:42.120 --> 1:47:47.200 state sponsor of terrorism, which chants death to America, from 1:47:47.240 --> 1:47:51.000 obtaining the most lethal weapon on the planet. This is 1:47:51.160 --> 1:47:55.519 america first policy in action, he says, God bless our 1:47:55.560 --> 1:47:58.759 brave men and women in uniform, the most lethal fighting 1:47:58.800 --> 1:48:01.639 force on the planet, as we pray for their safe 1:48:01.840 --> 1:48:06.720 return home. And he finishes with May God bless America. Now, 1:48:06.720 --> 1:48:09.960 I shared with you a statement yesterday, and we've got 1:48:10.000 --> 1:48:14.000 a translator here via Fox News so that we can 1:48:14.080 --> 1:48:18.840 understand what has been said. This is the Iranian foreign 1:48:19.080 --> 1:48:21.320 minister speaking yesterday. Have a listen. 1:48:21.560 --> 1:48:24.880 We are not seeking negotiations. It is the Americans who 1:48:24.880 --> 1:48:29.240 want talks. They've sent messages several times, very serious ones, 1:48:29.880 --> 1:48:32.439 but we made it explicitly clear to them that as 1:48:32.439 --> 1:48:36.720 long as this aggression and invasion continues, there is absolutely 1:48:36.760 --> 1:48:40.599 no room for talk or just pomacy. We are engaged 1:48:40.600 --> 1:48:44.160 in legitimate self defense and this defense will not stop 1:48:44.240 --> 1:48:48.040 under any circumstances. We have nothing to discuss with the 1:48:48.160 --> 1:48:51.120 United States, which is a partner in these crimes. 1:48:51.400 --> 1:48:54.920 Yeah, so no prospect of talkies you if you take 1:48:55.200 --> 1:48:59.360 those people of their words. So I don't know what 1:48:59.439 --> 1:49:03.200 that means. Trump thought he should act today. Of course, 1:49:03.200 --> 1:49:06.800 in the background of all of this, we should not 1:49:06.960 --> 1:49:09.680 forget that it was only yesterday. I'm being told that 1:49:10.120 --> 1:49:13.280 nat and Yahoo is now posting on x Can we 1:49:13.360 --> 1:49:15.880 just grab that and I'll share that with you in 1:49:15.920 --> 1:49:18.479 just a moment or two. Trump did say it a 1:49:18.479 --> 1:49:21.960 little while back, Well it'll be a fortnight. Aram's got 1:49:22.000 --> 1:49:24.559 a fortnight. Well, had a couple of days. And then 1:49:24.640 --> 1:49:27.600 earlier this morning when we got to work, there was 1:49:27.640 --> 1:49:32.400 the suggestion that the B two's that carry these bunker 1:49:32.439 --> 1:49:35.719 bombs were headed to Guam. And it wasn't long after 1:49:35.760 --> 1:49:39.120 that that, in fact, they dropped their payload at ford 1:49:39.120 --> 1:49:43.240 Oh unfortunate named FODOH, the largest or most significant of 1:49:43.320 --> 1:49:49.160 the three plants, nuclear plants. As I mentioned earlier, plenty 1:49:49.200 --> 1:49:52.040 of people saying on the feedback that this is the 1:49:52.120 --> 1:49:56.799 beginning of WW three, even hate saying that. Bill Mitchell, 1:49:57.080 --> 1:50:01.120 a commentator from America, says this is actually the prevention 1:50:02.040 --> 1:50:04.800 of World War three. People will have all sorts of 1:50:04.920 --> 1:50:09.720 views about that this won't start World War three, says 1:50:09.800 --> 1:50:12.320 this will prevent it. Finally, Trump showed Iran there's no 1:50:12.479 --> 1:50:18.080 path for them to a nuclear weapon. Obviously, opinions around 1:50:18.120 --> 1:50:23.479 all of this are very passionate and all over the shop. 1:50:24.400 --> 1:50:27.040 Just some feedback from distance, thank you zero for six 1:50:27.120 --> 1:50:31.840 zero eight seven three eight seven three. The poor Lady's 1:50:31.920 --> 1:50:34.400 mum Luke stuck in Iran is suffering because we suffer 1:50:34.520 --> 1:50:40.200 from incompetence as more paper shufflers are employed to reduce unemployment. 1:50:40.280 --> 1:50:42.240 A sad story for this poor lady and her mum. 1:50:43.200 --> 1:50:49.200 Sad for Australia having such an incompetent government. Thank you, Jay, 1:50:49.560 --> 1:50:56.000 appreciate that, Luke. You understand the daughter's grief is wanting 1:50:56.040 --> 1:50:57.600 her mum to be safety out of a run. But 1:50:58.240 --> 1:51:03.320 when are people going to make take responsibility for their 1:51:03.360 --> 1:51:06.559 actions and choices made. There have been clear warnings from 1:51:06.560 --> 1:51:09.000 the government to leave that volatile area for some time, 1:51:09.800 --> 1:51:13.720 people don't listen. Well, I think that lady in her 1:51:13.760 --> 1:51:17.240 seventies has been trying to leave and she was following 1:51:17.280 --> 1:51:20.960 the government's instructions. They appear apparently didn't get her anywhere. 1:51:23.960 --> 1:51:25.880 One three, one eight seven three Back in a sec 1:51:26.439 --> 1:51:30.320 Now we understand Donald Trump has described the strikes as 1:51:30.560 --> 1:51:34.320 very successful, yet he has not spoken publicly. That'll happen 1:51:34.360 --> 1:51:36.320 in about six minutes and we'll bring you that live 1:51:36.960 --> 1:51:40.040 in the meantime. As it turns out, Benjamin that Yahoo 1:51:40.600 --> 1:51:45.240 has just posted comments to social media on x Here's 1:51:45.280 --> 1:51:45.960 what he had to say. 1:51:46.320 --> 1:51:51.759 Congratulations President Trump, your bold decision to target Eron's nuclear 1:51:51.800 --> 1:51:55.240 facilities with the awesome and righteous might of the United 1:51:55.280 --> 1:52:01.000 States will change history. In Operation Rising Line and Israel 1:52:01.040 --> 1:52:05.160 has done truly amazing things. But in Tonight's action against 1:52:05.200 --> 1:52:11.760 Iran's nuclear facilities, America has been truly unsurpassed. It is 1:52:11.880 --> 1:52:16.360 done what no other country on Earth could do. History 1:52:16.439 --> 1:52:20.679 will record that President Trump acted to deny the world's 1:52:20.760 --> 1:52:26.200 most dangerous regime the world's most dangerous weapons. His leadership 1:52:26.280 --> 1:52:29.880 today has created a pivot of history that can help 1:52:30.000 --> 1:52:32.840 lead the Middle East and beyond to a future of 1:52:32.960 --> 1:52:38.960 prosperity and peace. President Trump and I often say peace 1:52:39.040 --> 1:52:44.960 through strength. First comes strength, then comes peace. And tonight 1:52:45.040 --> 1:52:48.720 President Trump and the United States acted with a lot 1:52:48.800 --> 1:52:54.320 of strength. President Trump, I thank you the people of Israel, 1:52:54.360 --> 1:52:56.680 Thank you the forces of civilization. 1:52:56.920 --> 1:52:57.200 Thank you. 1:52:58.200 --> 1:53:01.679 God bless America. God, God bless his will. And where 1:53:01.720 --> 1:53:05.679 God bless our unshakable alliance are unbreakable faith. 1:53:06.040 --> 1:53:10.559 That's Benjamin nettan Yahoo posting that just minutes ago. Meanwhile, 1:53:10.600 --> 1:53:16.160 back in America, the Democrat House Leader Hakeem Jeffries says 1:53:16.320 --> 1:53:19.640 President Trump misled the country about his intentions, failed to 1:53:19.720 --> 1:53:23.880 seek congressional authorization for the use of military force and 1:53:24.080 --> 1:53:28.240 risks American entanglement in a potentially disastrous war in the 1:53:28.280 --> 1:53:32.479 Middle East. He called for an immediate classified congressional briefing 1:53:32.520 --> 1:53:36.880 and said the president quote shoulders complete and total responsibility 1:53:36.920 --> 1:53:42.240 for any adverse consequences that flow from his unilateral military action. 1:53:42.960 --> 1:53:45.960 It's for to midday. We do have news at midday. 1:53:46.080 --> 1:53:49.519 If Donald Trump begins his address, we'll interrupt and bring 1:53:49.640 --> 1:53:52.040 that to you live. All right, we'll leave our news. 1:53:52.160 --> 1:53:54.760 There are Donald Trump, the US President, making his way 1:53:54.800 --> 1:53:57.639 to the microphone, speaking of the world. Following those attacks 1:53:57.680 --> 1:53:59.240 on nucleosites in Iran. 1:54:00.200 --> 1:54:04.679 Time ago, the US military carried out massive precision strikes 1:54:04.760 --> 1:54:09.960 on the three key nuclear facilities in the Iranian regime 1:54:10.840 --> 1:54:17.360 for dou Natance and Esfahan. Everybody heard those names for 1:54:18.040 --> 1:54:23.800 years as they built this horribly destructive enterprise. Our objective 1:54:24.080 --> 1:54:28.920 was the destruction of Iran's nuclear enrichment capacity and a 1:54:29.080 --> 1:54:32.680 stop to the nuclear threat posed by the world's number 1:54:32.760 --> 1:54:34.240 one state sponsor of terror. 1:54:34.960 --> 1:54:36.880 Tonight, I can report to the world. 1:54:37.280 --> 1:54:43.560 That the strikes were a spectacular military success. Iran's key 1:54:43.640 --> 1:54:49.160 nuclear and Richmond facilities have been completely and totally obliterated. Iran, 1:54:49.280 --> 1:54:52.200 the bully of the Middle East, must now make peace. 1:54:53.000 --> 1:54:55.600 If they do not, future attacks would be far greater 1:54:55.880 --> 1:54:59.360 and a lot easier. For forty years, Iran has been 1:54:59.400 --> 1:55:03.680 saying death to America, death to Israel. They have been 1:55:03.800 --> 1:55:06.800 killing our people, blowing off their arms, blowing off their 1:55:06.880 --> 1:55:11.320 legs with roadside bombs, that was their specialty. We lost 1:55:11.360 --> 1:55:15.080 over a thousand people, and hundreds of thousands throughout the 1:55:15.160 --> 1:55:18.080 Middle East and around the world have died as a 1:55:18.200 --> 1:55:21.560 direct result of their hate. In particular, so many were 1:55:21.680 --> 1:55:27.960 killed by their general Cassem Solomoni. I decided a long 1:55:28.040 --> 1:55:30.520 time ago that I would not let this happen. 1:55:30.680 --> 1:55:31.839 It will not continue. 1:55:32.720 --> 1:55:36.680 I want to thank and congratulate Prime Minister BB Netanyahu. 1:55:37.640 --> 1:55:40.200 We worked as a team like perhaps no team has 1:55:40.320 --> 1:55:43.680 ever worked before, and we've gone a long way to 1:55:43.840 --> 1:55:45.960 erasing this horrible threat to Israel. 1:55:46.720 --> 1:55:49.080 I want to thank the Israeli military for. 1:55:49.240 --> 1:55:52.760 The wonderful job they've done, and most importantly, I want 1:55:52.800 --> 1:55:56.640 to congratulate the great American patriots who flew those magnificent 1:55:56.840 --> 1:56:00.840 machines tonight and all of the United States military on 1:56:00.960 --> 1:56:03.320 an operation the likes of which the world. 1:56:03.120 --> 1:56:04.959 Has not seen in many, many decades. 1:56:05.840 --> 1:56:09.720 Hopefully we will no longer need their services and this capacity. 1:56:10.160 --> 1:56:10.880 I hope that's so. 1:56:11.800 --> 1:56:14.480 I also want to congratulate the Chairman of the Joint 1:56:14.560 --> 1:56:19.680 Chiefs of Staff, General Dan Raisin Kane, spectacular general, and 1:56:19.840 --> 1:56:22.960 all of the brilliant military minds involved in this attack. 1:56:23.920 --> 1:56:26.400 With all of that being said, this cannot continue. 1:56:26.560 --> 1:56:30.000 There will be either peace or there will be tragedy 1:56:30.120 --> 1:56:33.400 for Iran, far greater than we have witnessed over the 1:56:33.520 --> 1:56:39.040 last eight days. Remember, there are many targets left. The 1:56:39.160 --> 1:56:41.960 Knights was the most difficult of them all by far, 1:56:42.640 --> 1:56:46.160 and perhaps the most lethal. But if peace does not 1:56:46.360 --> 1:56:50.360 come quickly, we will go after those other targets with precision, 1:56:51.080 --> 1:56:55.560 speed and skill. Most of them can be taken out 1:56:55.640 --> 1:56:58.520 in a matter of minutes. There's no military in the 1:56:58.560 --> 1:57:01.400 world that could have done what we did tonight, not 1:57:01.560 --> 1:57:04.200 even close. There has never been a military that could 1:57:04.240 --> 1:57:08.240 do what took place just a little while ago. Tomorrow, 1:57:08.400 --> 1:57:13.040 General Kin, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, we'll have a 1:57:13.120 --> 1:57:16.400 press conference at eight am at the Pentagon, and I 1:57:16.480 --> 1:57:21.720 want to just thank everybody, and in particular God, I 1:57:21.840 --> 1:57:24.240 want to just say we love you God, and we 1:57:24.360 --> 1:57:25.440 love our great military. 1:57:25.560 --> 1:57:26.160 Protect them. 1:57:27.000 --> 1:57:30.640 God bless the Middle East, God bless Israel, and God 1:57:30.720 --> 1:57:32.280 bless America. 1:57:32.400 --> 1:57:34.000 Thank you very much, Thank you. 1:57:35.160 --> 1:57:39.520 That's Donald Trump at the White House addressing the world 1:57:39.760 --> 1:57:44.480 following the United States decision at around ten minutes to 1:57:44.600 --> 1:57:49.440 ten our time to announce the three nuclear facilities nuclear 1:57:49.520 --> 1:57:53.040 facilities in Iran had been bombed. Now, there's a lot 1:57:53.120 --> 1:57:57.240 of information contained in that statement. I'll reply that before 1:57:57.280 --> 1:58:02.480 we leave you today. Trump says, amongst other things, that 1:58:02.720 --> 1:58:05.680 no military in the world could have done what they 1:58:05.760 --> 1:58:09.960 did tonight. He says that without peace, there'll be tragedy 1:58:10.040 --> 1:58:15.080 for Iran, and that will far exceed what's already taken place. 1:58:16.680 --> 1:58:19.880 Trump is or has made the argument that Iran didn't 1:58:20.000 --> 1:58:22.760 just pose a threat to Israel, but also to the 1:58:22.880 --> 1:58:26.520 United States, saying that for forty years, Iran's been saying 1:58:26.600 --> 1:58:32.040 death to America, death to Israel. After months of hesitancy, 1:58:33.320 --> 1:58:38.240 President Trumps embraced Prime Minister Benjamin dtan Yahoo, saying they've 1:58:38.280 --> 1:58:43.880 worked closely together as a team. He also said a 1:58:43.960 --> 1:58:48.560 long time ago he decided he would not let this continue. 1:58:50.560 --> 1:58:53.360 Iranian efforts to gain a nuclear weapon, a point on 1:58:53.480 --> 1:58:56.879 which He's been consistent, they say for over a decade. 1:58:57.800 --> 1:59:00.440 He referred to as Iran as the bully of the 1:59:00.520 --> 1:59:05.000 Middle East. He says his objective was the destruction of 1:59:05.200 --> 1:59:09.880 Iran's nuclear enrichment capacity and to stop the nuclear threat 1:59:09.960 --> 1:59:13.760 posed by the world's number one state sponsor of terror. 1:59:14.840 --> 1:59:19.600 B two bombers dropped at least six thirty thousand pound 1:59:19.960 --> 1:59:25.360 bunker busters on four Doh for Dow I've heard it 1:59:25.520 --> 1:59:29.640 now called as well or four Doh, and submarines fired 1:59:29.960 --> 1:59:36.440 thirty TLAM cruise missiles at Natanz and Isfahan. According to 1:59:36.640 --> 1:59:44.400 a US official who kept has been kept anonymous, Crump 1:59:44.440 --> 1:59:49.800 says our objective was destruction of Iran's nuclear capacity. He 1:59:49.920 --> 1:59:56.800 says the operation was a spectacular success. He claims that 1:59:56.960 --> 2:00:03.200 Iran's nuclear sites are totally obliterated. He was flanked when 2:00:03.200 --> 2:00:07.160 he spoke to the world Vice President Advance Jade Vance, 2:00:07.240 --> 2:00:13.960 Secretary of Saint Marco Rubio, and Defense Secretary Pete Hegsath. 2:00:15.640 --> 2:00:18.280 He walked down the cost all of the White House 2:00:18.360 --> 2:00:23.240 to deliver his remarks, looking straight at a camera and 2:00:25.520 --> 2:00:29.400 didn't miss a beat. From what I heard, Donald Trump 2:00:29.520 --> 2:00:34.160 addressing the world, I'm sorry for interrupting our news for 2:00:34.240 --> 2:00:36.920 those that were expecting a full bulletin. But we've just 2:00:36.960 --> 2:00:39.800 think given the significance of all of this and what 2:00:40.000 --> 2:00:42.800 you expect from us in relation to rolling coverage, that 2:00:42.960 --> 2:00:45.720 that was what we had to do. And now I 2:00:45.800 --> 2:00:49.960 shared with you before Donald Trump spoke Benjamin nettan Yahoo, 2:00:51.160 --> 2:00:56.600 the Israeli leader who posted on social media and address 2:00:57.160 --> 2:01:01.040 again to the world, here's what President that in Yahoo 2:01:01.080 --> 2:01:01.520 had to sight. 2:01:01.880 --> 2:01:07.320 Congratulations, President Trump. Your bold decision to target Iran's nuclear 2:01:07.400 --> 2:01:10.800 facilities with the awesome and righteous might of the United 2:01:10.840 --> 2:01:16.720 States will change history. In Operation Rising Line, Israel has 2:01:16.800 --> 2:01:21.160 done truly amazing things, but into Night's action against Iran's 2:01:21.240 --> 2:01:27.680 nuclear facilities, America has been truly unsurpassed. It is done 2:01:27.720 --> 2:01:32.160 what no other country on Earth could do. History will 2:01:32.240 --> 2:01:36.480 record that President Trump acted to deny the world's most 2:01:36.560 --> 2:01:41.800 dangerous regime the world's most dangerous weapons. His leadership to 2:01:41.920 --> 2:01:45.400 day has created a pivot of history that can help 2:01:45.480 --> 2:01:48.360 lead the Middle East and beyond to a future of 2:01:48.480 --> 2:01:54.440 prosperity and peace. President Trump and I often say peace 2:01:54.520 --> 2:02:00.480 through strength. First comes strength, then comes peace. And tonight 2:02:00.560 --> 2:02:04.240 President Trump and the United States acted with a lot 2:02:04.320 --> 2:02:09.800 of strength, President Trump. I thank you the people of Israel, 2:02:09.880 --> 2:02:14.680 Thank you the forces of civilization. Thank you, God bless America. 2:02:15.400 --> 2:02:18.640 God bless is Will. And may God bless our unshakable 2:02:19.080 --> 2:02:21.200 alliance are unbreakable faith. 2:02:21.640 --> 2:02:25.760 Yes, a most significant day in world history following the 2:02:25.920 --> 2:02:29.200 bombing of three nuclear facilities by the US. Now, just 2:02:29.240 --> 2:02:32.480 some feedback from listeners we've brought to all the international news. 2:02:32.520 --> 2:02:35.400 I'm keen to know what you think, Luke. I think 2:02:35.480 --> 2:02:40.200 that was a spine tingling address by Trump at goose Bumps, 2:02:40.720 --> 2:02:44.040 finally addressing the world's issues. Thank you, Rob for getting 2:02:44.080 --> 2:02:46.800 in touch, Luke. I wonder how many of those in 2:02:46.880 --> 2:02:50.440 America who'll be out in force protesting this. Remember the 2:02:50.520 --> 2:02:55.200 fateful day of twin Towers. Sharon. Thank you for your note. 2:02:55.880 --> 2:03:02.920 I'm waiting to hear the cringing, obfuscating elbows to Trump's speech. Okay, 2:03:03.040 --> 2:03:04.000 will he support him? 2:03:04.080 --> 2:03:04.240 Well? 2:03:04.320 --> 2:03:06.680 I guess we'll no soon enough. Thank you for getting 2:03:06.680 --> 2:03:10.760 in touch, Jessica, says a leader. Amen. Alan, on the 2:03:10.800 --> 2:03:17.200 other hand, says w t F. A totally godless man 2:03:17.400 --> 2:03:20.640 praising God. That'll do me. Thank you Allan for getting 2:03:20.640 --> 2:03:25.440 in touch. Another listener, Ray, good, Luke, I can just 2:03:25.600 --> 2:03:31.960 imagine our Prime Minister's response amongst the arms rs and ours. Okay, 2:03:32.320 --> 2:03:34.480 Ray listing in Brisbane, thank you for getting in touch. 2:03:35.920 --> 2:03:38.280 And in fact a lot of people are saying exactly that. 2:03:38.880 --> 2:03:44.200 Woo's kind to move on. Check you watch Luke, it's 2:03:44.240 --> 2:03:48.680 past midday? Okay? Did I give the wrong time? Maybe 2:03:48.720 --> 2:03:52.440 I did, Luke Haran pressy was President Trump? Susie, thank 2:03:52.480 --> 2:03:54.760 you for getting in touch. All right, so much there? 2:03:54.880 --> 2:03:56.520 Tell you what we'll do. We might just catch our 2:03:56.560 --> 2:03:58.800 breath here a moment, take a break, come back with 2:03:59.000 --> 2:04:03.000 more of our role and coverage as the US strikes 2:04:03.200 --> 2:04:08.000 nuclear facilities in Iran. This is weekends onto GB and 2:04:08.120 --> 2:04:11.720 four BC sixteen after mid date. Is as we provide 2:04:11.800 --> 2:04:17.839 rolling coverage of the US striking Iran's nuclear facilities earlier 2:04:18.000 --> 2:04:24.560 in the day. Just looking for some Australian reaction. So far, 2:04:24.960 --> 2:04:28.080 the only one I can see I've noticed Senator David Shuebridge. 2:04:28.080 --> 2:04:30.040 He is the brother of Michael Schubridge with whom we 2:04:30.080 --> 2:04:33.440 spoke an hour ago. So this is the Greens reaction, 2:04:34.320 --> 2:04:37.120 he says. President Donald Trump's claim today to have bombed 2:04:37.160 --> 2:04:40.640 Iran directly is such a fundamental threat to Old Peace 2:04:41.240 --> 2:04:44.600 that the Albanezy government must immediately take steps to distance 2:04:44.720 --> 2:04:49.200 Australia from these attacks and condemn them. There'll be a 2:04:49.280 --> 2:04:55.040 pro peace rally in Newcastle following his media conference, which 2:04:55.080 --> 2:04:59.560 happens in around an hour's time here. They should pull 2:04:59.600 --> 2:05:04.520 a crowd that that's not I spoke to my colleague 2:05:04.600 --> 2:05:07.120 Lauren to Marti from nine News around an hour and 2:05:07.160 --> 2:05:10.000 a bit ago to see what the reaction was the 2:05:10.360 --> 2:05:14.200 immediate reaction in the United States now that the president 2:05:14.240 --> 2:05:16.120 has spoken, I thought we'd get Lauren back on the 2:05:16.200 --> 2:05:20.480 line for any further update and Lauren say thank you 2:05:20.560 --> 2:05:23.280 again for having at chat to me. I've noted that 2:05:23.320 --> 2:05:29.000 a couple of Democrats have really spoken out against Donald Trump, 2:05:29.200 --> 2:05:31.920 saying that he should have sought permission to do what 2:05:32.040 --> 2:05:35.760 he's authorized earlier in the day. I don't think anyone 2:05:35.760 --> 2:05:39.760 would be surprised to know that Alexandria Occasio Cortez has 2:05:39.840 --> 2:05:43.240 come out and said these are grounds for impeachment. I 2:05:43.600 --> 2:05:48.480 I've seen those comments, but a very lively political environment 2:05:48.520 --> 2:05:51.440 in the US right now, it. 2:05:51.560 --> 2:05:54.960 Certainly is looking a lot of people in Congress, mostly 2:05:55.040 --> 2:05:59.360 Democratic members, are saying why weren't they alerted to these 2:05:59.480 --> 2:06:02.400 strikes we have, of course, just heard from Donald Trump. 2:06:02.480 --> 2:06:05.640 That was a pretty short speech for the US president. 2:06:05.680 --> 2:06:08.080 It only ran around seven minutes there. As you heard, 2:06:08.480 --> 2:06:10.560 I wanted to talk a little bit more about that 2:06:10.680 --> 2:06:13.120 because one of the key takeaways I think really we 2:06:13.200 --> 2:06:16.680 got there was Donald Trump not he left the door 2:06:16.760 --> 2:06:20.120 open to any further attack, saying that peace doesn't come quickly, 2:06:20.280 --> 2:06:23.560 we will go after those other targets, those seeing the 2:06:23.600 --> 2:06:26.160 other nuclear targets within the country. 2:06:27.080 --> 2:06:33.240 Yeah, that is remarkable. Benjamin Att and Yahoo and Donald Trump. 2:06:33.320 --> 2:06:36.400 I don't know that they've been necessarily all that close, 2:06:36.520 --> 2:06:40.440 but if you heard, I'm sure you did what BB 2:06:40.640 --> 2:06:44.480 had to say, and Donald Trump's reference to him and 2:06:44.560 --> 2:06:47.680 the people of Israel, it's hard not to believe that 2:06:47.800 --> 2:06:48.520 this has been. 2:06:50.240 --> 2:06:50.440 Either. 2:06:50.520 --> 2:06:53.240 I don't know if it's been implemented in a joint fashion, 2:06:53.320 --> 2:06:56.800 but they've been well aware of what was in the 2:06:57.160 --> 2:06:58.360 on the road ahead clearly. 2:06:59.800 --> 2:06:59.960 Yeah. 2:07:00.120 --> 2:07:02.360 And Benjamin Netna, who was one of the very first 2:07:02.400 --> 2:07:06.520 phone calls that Donald Trump made after these strikes were 2:07:06.560 --> 2:07:08.760 carried out, and then those public remarks coming from the 2:07:08.880 --> 2:07:12.760 Israeli president prime minister where he said America is truly 2:07:12.960 --> 2:07:16.160 unsurpassed it's done what no other country on Earth could do. 2:07:16.320 --> 2:07:18.200 But as you and I were talking about earlier, this 2:07:18.400 --> 2:07:21.880 is something that Israel has been pushing for for some time, 2:07:22.000 --> 2:07:24.480 and certainly it was a defiant tone taken by bb 2:07:24.640 --> 2:07:25.560 Netta who tonight. 2:07:26.200 --> 2:07:28.640 It was amazing to me, Lauren, perhaps not so much 2:07:28.720 --> 2:07:31.800 to you that we were watching all the coverage, and 2:07:31.880 --> 2:07:35.360 in particular Fox News, and I saw Sean Hannity pop 2:07:35.480 --> 2:07:40.240 up on the screen and he actually admitted to having 2:07:40.320 --> 2:07:43.160 spoken to Donald Trump just before going on air, and 2:07:43.280 --> 2:07:46.200 he let loose with the there were six bombs dropped 2:07:46.640 --> 2:07:50.880 on this four Doaux area and various other things, saying 2:07:50.960 --> 2:07:56.960 that you know that plant had been wiped out, the 2:07:57.040 --> 2:07:59.920 spreading of news in America. So Trump goes on truth 2:08:00.080 --> 2:08:04.040 social and says, by the way, we've bombed the nuclear plants, 2:08:04.600 --> 2:08:07.760 and he has a phone called a Sean Hannity. I mean, 2:08:08.360 --> 2:08:09.880 I don't know, doesn't happen here? 2:08:10.000 --> 2:08:15.040 Remarkable, It truly is, And it's a very different administration 2:08:15.240 --> 2:08:17.800 here in the US with Donald Trump as the commander 2:08:17.880 --> 2:08:22.760 in chief. That we learn about these military strikes engaged 2:08:22.800 --> 2:08:26.040 by the US military over social media is quite an 2:08:26.040 --> 2:08:28.600 astonishing thing in itself, but Donald Trump picked up the 2:08:28.640 --> 2:08:31.400 phone to a number of US journalists in the moments 2:08:31.520 --> 2:08:35.280 after that, talking about what kind of weapons were used 2:08:36.160 --> 2:08:39.600 for that US attack and a little bit of you 2:08:39.680 --> 2:08:43.880 know what will come next. But I think that seven 2:08:43.960 --> 2:08:46.960 minute speech there from the US President, which was interesting 2:08:47.000 --> 2:08:49.680 in itself because he had the vice president standing behind 2:08:49.760 --> 2:08:52.640 him in the Secretary of State, Defense Secretary. He wasn't 2:08:52.720 --> 2:08:56.600 certainly alone, as Donald Trump quite frequently likes to be 2:08:56.720 --> 2:09:01.320 when he is fronting the cameras, you know, standing there 2:09:01.640 --> 2:09:04.680 making quite a show of what has just happened. 2:09:04.960 --> 2:09:08.000 Yeah, yeah, he didn't miss didn't miss a beat. I 2:09:08.040 --> 2:09:11.360 guess we all now wait to see what happens next. 2:09:11.440 --> 2:09:14.800 It's one thing for Donald Trump to say, right now 2:09:14.840 --> 2:09:18.600 it's time for peace. It's another what kind of internal 2:09:18.680 --> 2:09:22.040 pressures will exist in Iran forcing them to do something. 2:09:22.080 --> 2:09:23.360 They're going to do something, aren't they. 2:09:24.320 --> 2:09:28.200 Well, certainly the reporting here is that US officials in 2:09:28.280 --> 2:09:31.520 the Trump administration believe the next forty eight hours is 2:09:31.640 --> 2:09:34.840 going to be really key as to what comes next. 2:09:34.960 --> 2:09:38.160 And you know, as I said that, Donald Trump leaving 2:09:38.200 --> 2:09:42.960 the door open to potential strikes if Iran does hit 2:09:43.080 --> 2:09:46.120 back in whatever way, shape or form. That may be, 2:09:46.440 --> 2:09:49.920 so there is certainly a lot of uncertainty. Donald Trump 2:09:49.960 --> 2:09:52.760 hasn't indicated exactly what is to come next. But we 2:09:52.880 --> 2:09:56.240 will hear from the Chief of the Pentagon Pete Hegseth, 2:09:57.000 --> 2:10:01.000 tomorrow morning. It is now ten twenty pm here at night, 2:10:01.160 --> 2:10:03.760 so a bit of a ways to go before we 2:10:03.920 --> 2:10:07.200 hear from the Defense Secretary there as to what is 2:10:07.280 --> 2:10:09.080 the next move for the US military. 2:10:09.200 --> 2:10:11.000 All right, you've been up long enough. Good to talk 2:10:11.000 --> 2:10:14.400 to you again. Stay safe, Hey, thanks Luke, Good on you. 2:10:14.560 --> 2:10:18.640 Lauren Tomarty look for her reports on nine News. She'll 2:10:18.720 --> 2:10:23.560 have the very latest from the United States of America. 2:10:23.600 --> 2:10:25.600 I'm just looking for because I've had a lot of 2:10:25.640 --> 2:10:33.800 people ask the question, is there any reaction from Australian politicians. Well, 2:10:34.000 --> 2:10:38.240 I mentioned David Shubridge. We are looking for statements. We 2:10:38.360 --> 2:10:42.400 normally get them sent to us, and we've invited a 2:10:42.520 --> 2:10:45.960 number of political leaders onto the program, but we've had 2:10:46.000 --> 2:10:49.560 no success. They're probably wondering, I wonder what the focus 2:10:49.640 --> 2:10:56.000 group would say, maybe others suggesting the others practicing how 2:10:56.040 --> 2:11:00.400 to speak, which is terribly unkind quite a number of 2:11:00.400 --> 2:11:02.960 people saying the world is now safer place. Well done, 2:11:03.840 --> 2:11:08.280 and the same number, perhaps slightly less, saying what have 2:11:08.400 --> 2:11:11.640 you done? It's now going to be WW three when 2:11:11.680 --> 2:11:15.640 no one wants, no one wants to even admit that 2:11:15.760 --> 2:11:19.600 that's the thing. But that's something the Time will obviously 2:11:20.040 --> 2:11:25.200 inform us more about. In the meantime. The text is 2:11:25.320 --> 2:11:28.720 zero four six zero eight seven three eight seven three, 2:11:28.960 --> 2:11:34.720 And we've had hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of messages. 2:11:35.040 --> 2:11:37.440 I will read them all, perhaps not all on air, 2:11:37.480 --> 2:11:40.600 and I thank you for all of them. Mal makes 2:11:40.640 --> 2:11:42.560 this point good, I Luke, in the interest of social 2:11:42.640 --> 2:11:47.480 cohesion and mental health about diggers, can we send the 2:11:47.600 --> 2:11:51.880 protesters to perhaps the South Pole until they wake up 2:11:51.920 --> 2:11:54.600 to themselves. Well, now I'm hearing you. I know what 2:11:54.680 --> 2:11:59.160 you're saying. How much supporters in Hyde Park, Southwest Sydney 2:12:00.040 --> 2:12:04.800 will be most upset by the attack on Iran Iran 2:12:06.000 --> 2:12:10.600 says another listener, brad Well. I guess time will tell. 2:12:10.800 --> 2:12:13.840 We do know there is a predictable reaction from those 2:12:13.920 --> 2:12:16.160 within the body politic, and I guess we wait for that. 2:12:18.240 --> 2:12:20.720 What would these bed wedding lefties say a country like 2:12:20.800 --> 2:12:24.160 Canada or Australia, or the UK or even the US 2:12:24.360 --> 2:12:28.640 enacted a murderous regime as a have an Iran or 2:12:28.680 --> 2:12:33.360 their own people, what would they do? Thank you, Jeff. 2:12:33.680 --> 2:12:36.320 And that leaves aside, you know, the idea that you 2:12:36.440 --> 2:12:41.560 might want to be a perhaps female, and be educated 2:12:42.040 --> 2:12:47.240 and perhaps wear what you want, perhaps have the same 2:12:47.360 --> 2:12:54.520 freedoms of people of the other gender. You know, very 2:12:54.560 --> 2:12:58.520 good point. Thanks for making it good A two GB 2:12:58.800 --> 2:13:02.760 listening to you on we had a blackout during the 2:13:02.840 --> 2:13:07.400 Trump speech. Can you replay this speech? Yes, Jodie, I 2:13:07.480 --> 2:13:11.040 will be replaying the speech. It shouldn't have happened. I 2:13:11.120 --> 2:13:13.960 don't know how it happened, but we will certainly be 2:13:14.120 --> 2:13:17.040 replaying that, and we'll be doing that probably after our 2:13:17.120 --> 2:13:20.760 next break. The words of Donald Trump following that attack 2:13:21.160 --> 2:13:24.640 you its attack on the nuclear facilities in Iran, so 2:13:24.800 --> 2:13:28.520 you'll hear that very shortly. One three one eight seventy 2:13:28.560 --> 2:13:31.680 three is our open line number. Obviously, with this breaking 2:13:32.240 --> 2:13:36.440 world news, we've changed things around here a little. So 2:13:37.040 --> 2:13:39.400 what I wanted to do now is just give you 2:13:39.480 --> 2:13:43.240 a reminder of whoever we are on this Sunday afternoon 2:13:43.320 --> 2:13:46.080 at twenty five after midday. Jim would normally be here, 2:13:46.160 --> 2:13:49.360 but we've devoted this program to the rolling coverage. It 2:13:49.440 --> 2:13:54.240 follows earlier today, and this came from Donald Trump posting 2:13:54.320 --> 2:13:59.040 on truth Social his own social media platform, saying, at 2:13:59.200 --> 2:14:02.320 ten minutes to ten o'clock, we have completed our very 2:14:02.400 --> 2:14:06.640 successful attack on the three nuclear sites in Iran, including 2:14:06.760 --> 2:14:11.040 for DOE, Natans and Esafhan. All planes are now outside 2:14:11.120 --> 2:14:15.080 of Iran airspace. A full payload of bombs were dropped 2:14:15.080 --> 2:14:18.400 on the primary site for DOE. All planes are safely 2:14:18.440 --> 2:14:21.280 on their way home. He says, congratulations to our great 2:14:21.320 --> 2:14:25.040 American warriors. There is not another military in the world 2:14:25.120 --> 2:14:27.600 that could have done this. Now is the time for peace, 2:14:28.160 --> 2:14:30.800 and then he thanks us all for our attention to 2:14:30.920 --> 2:14:34.920 this matter that came. As I say, at ten minutes 2:14:34.960 --> 2:14:38.480 to ten, we will come back with the words of 2:14:38.560 --> 2:14:41.120 Donald Trump delivered at the White House about half an 2:14:41.160 --> 2:14:44.480 hour ago. For those that missed it, also Benjamin Nett 2:14:44.480 --> 2:14:47.240 and Yahoo. The Israeli leader has had a thing or 2:14:47.280 --> 2:14:51.080 two to say. And then we might be deep enough 2:14:51.160 --> 2:14:55.280 into things to have a chat with the Continuous Call team, 2:14:55.320 --> 2:14:57.960 because after one o'clock today we can get back to 2:14:58.040 --> 2:14:59.960 life as normal, can't we With a bit of food, 2:15:00.680 --> 2:15:04.080 but don't worry. Right throughout the afternoon, tonight, the week ahead, 2:15:04.520 --> 2:15:07.520 all the time. If news breaks, you'll hear it first, 2:15:08.040 --> 2:15:11.640 and you'll hear it completely. Right here twenty seven after midday, 2:15:11.840 --> 2:15:15.040 now twenty nine minutes to one o'clock. I note that 2:15:15.440 --> 2:15:19.000 now the prediction is a global oil prices. Don't you 2:15:19.080 --> 2:15:23.480 love this? Likely to see a spike? Trading resumes at 2:15:23.760 --> 2:15:27.960 six pm Eastern in the US. An Asia crude oil 2:15:28.640 --> 2:15:33.160 analyst Global Commodities and Shipping Firm has said, but long 2:15:33.280 --> 2:15:35.560 term traders will be looking to see if fighting effects 2:15:35.960 --> 2:15:39.640 around all export capacity or on tanker traffic in and 2:15:39.760 --> 2:15:42.960 out of the Persian Gulf. I guess we shouldn't be 2:15:43.560 --> 2:15:49.440 surprised to hear that the NASA Fire Information System detected 2:15:49.520 --> 2:15:54.120 a significant heat generating event near the four DAU Nuclear 2:15:54.240 --> 2:15:58.120 and Richmond facility, with one detection about thirty minutes before 2:15:58.680 --> 2:16:02.840 President Trump announced the US strikes. Often, areas that are 2:16:02.880 --> 2:16:06.320 bombed or produced significant heat, such as from lasting fires, 2:16:06.480 --> 2:16:10.720 are detected. Other events like wildfires and industrial activity can 2:16:10.760 --> 2:16:14.520 also be picked up. However, no recent events were detected 2:16:14.560 --> 2:16:18.720 In the last month. Around four DOH the Atomic Energy 2:16:18.840 --> 2:16:22.600 Organization of Iran issued a state and confirming Iran's three 2:16:22.760 --> 2:16:27.000 nuclear sites quote were attacked in a violent act against 2:16:27.120 --> 2:16:32.480 international laws, including the Non Proliferation Treaty by the enemies 2:16:32.560 --> 2:16:36.120 of Islamic Iran unquote. The agency said it would take 2:16:36.240 --> 2:16:40.200 legal action against the US in international courts and that 2:16:40.400 --> 2:16:45.360 Iran's nuclear program would continue. A US official said that 2:16:45.520 --> 2:16:50.279 six B two bombers dropped a dozen thirty thousand pound 2:16:50.440 --> 2:16:54.360 bunker buster bombs on the four dou nuclear site. It 2:16:54.520 --> 2:17:00.680 lies deep underground. Navy submarines fired thirty TLAM crew missiles 2:17:00.680 --> 2:17:05.120 that the Natans and Isafahan sites. Easy for you to say, 2:17:05.680 --> 2:17:10.000 one B two also dropped two bunker busters on the Tans, 2:17:10.560 --> 2:17:13.480 according to the official, some of the details there. 2:17:13.560 --> 2:17:13.680 Now. 2:17:14.000 --> 2:17:19.920 There's been a reaction from the Green Senator David Schubridge, who, 2:17:20.160 --> 2:17:24.480 to be fair, I think is the Greens spokesperson on 2:17:24.600 --> 2:17:28.119 these matters. He said, Trump's claimed today to have bombed 2:17:28.120 --> 2:17:31.680 around directly as such a fundamental threat to world peace 2:17:32.360 --> 2:17:35.440 that the Albanese government must immediately take steps to distance 2:17:35.520 --> 2:17:40.400 Australia from these attacks and condemn them. Which is interesting 2:17:40.520 --> 2:17:46.280 because the constant calls from the Iranians for death to 2:17:46.480 --> 2:17:51.480 Israel and two Americans must obviously be the opposite, which 2:17:51.680 --> 2:17:56.200 many of us would go, huh, so that's that. Former 2:17:56.360 --> 2:17:59.760 Prime Minister Scott Morrison's been on Sky News has. 2:17:59.680 --> 2:18:03.400 Had this to say, Well, the entry of the United 2:18:03.440 --> 2:18:07.240 States directly into this in an offensive capacity with the 2:18:07.280 --> 2:18:12.080 strikes that we've seen today, is obviously a very significant 2:18:12.959 --> 2:18:15.480 change in what we've seen in the conflicts so far. 2:18:16.280 --> 2:18:19.960 The President Trump clearly had no further options available to 2:18:20.120 --> 2:18:22.680 him other than to do what only the US military 2:18:22.720 --> 2:18:25.600 could do. It wasn't like Israel could have undertaken what 2:18:25.680 --> 2:18:28.200 we've just seen, and it is certainly not something I 2:18:28.240 --> 2:18:31.920 think the President has rushed towards or even preferred, But 2:18:32.080 --> 2:18:34.720 he's been resolute about the need to resolve this issue, 2:18:34.800 --> 2:18:37.480 and clearly that was only going to occur with what 2:18:37.560 --> 2:18:40.680 we've seen today. Now with that action, I think it 2:18:40.840 --> 2:18:43.840 is still contained. It was very direct in where they 2:18:43.920 --> 2:18:46.920 struck and the message he has sent clearly to the 2:18:47.000 --> 2:18:50.080 regime is the ball is very much in their court 2:18:50.160 --> 2:18:53.520 and it's time to end this and to move towards 2:18:53.600 --> 2:18:55.960 a peace. Well, they were the only one who could 2:18:56.000 --> 2:18:59.520 take out the enrichment facilities of Iraq that could not 2:18:59.680 --> 2:19:02.560 have been done by Israel. That was not possible, and 2:19:02.680 --> 2:19:06.000 as a result in the window that was available. It 2:19:06.160 --> 2:19:08.800 was for the United States to take that opportunity or 2:19:08.920 --> 2:19:12.080 see one of the most authoritarian, repressive Brasileins in the 2:19:12.200 --> 2:19:18.320 world continue to move towards having the ability to literally incinerate. 2:19:17.879 --> 2:19:21.720 An entire nation. All right, former Prime Minister Scott Morrison. 2:19:21.800 --> 2:19:24.560 And again for those it didn't hear it. A little 2:19:24.600 --> 2:19:26.840 earlier in the day, about thirty five minutes ago, we 2:19:26.959 --> 2:19:29.879 heard from the US President Donald Trump. It was speaking 2:19:30.040 --> 2:19:30.840 at the White House. 2:19:31.200 --> 2:19:35.040 A short time ago, the US military carried out massive 2:19:35.120 --> 2:19:40.080 precision strikes on the three key nuclear facilities in the 2:19:40.200 --> 2:19:48.160 Iranian regime for Doah, Natans and a Sfahan. Everybody heard 2:19:48.160 --> 2:19:53.760 those names for years as they built this horribly destructive enterprise. 2:19:54.680 --> 2:19:59.000 Our objective was the destruction of irans nuclear and richment 2:19:59.160 --> 2:20:03.440 capacity and a stop to the nuclear threat posed by 2:20:03.480 --> 2:20:05.800 the world's number one state sponsor of terror. 2:20:06.560 --> 2:20:08.480 Tonight I can report to the world. 2:20:08.840 --> 2:20:15.120 That the strikes were a spectacular military success. Iran's key 2:20:15.240 --> 2:20:19.560 nuclear and Richmond facilities have been completely and totally obliterated. 2:20:20.560 --> 2:20:23.800 Rand the bully of the Middle East, must now make peace. 2:20:24.600 --> 2:20:26.959 If they do not, future attacks would be far. 2:20:26.920 --> 2:20:28.440 Greater and a lot easier. 2:20:29.440 --> 2:20:31.840 For forty years, Iran has been saying death to. 2:20:31.920 --> 2:20:33.920 America, death to Israel. 2:20:34.879 --> 2:20:37.560 They have been killing our people, blowing off their arms, 2:20:37.640 --> 2:20:42.240 blowing off their legs with roadside bombs, that was their specialty. 2:20:42.440 --> 2:20:46.160 We lost over a thousand people, and hundreds of thousands 2:20:46.240 --> 2:20:49.400 throughout the Middle East and around the world have died 2:20:49.440 --> 2:20:52.600 as a direct result of their hate. In particular, so 2:20:52.720 --> 2:20:59.080 many were killed by their General Cassem SOLMANI. I decided 2:20:59.200 --> 2:21:02.080 a long time ago that I would not let this happen. 2:21:02.280 --> 2:21:05.959 It will not continue. I want to thank and congratulate 2:21:06.040 --> 2:21:10.280 Prime Minister bb Netan Yahoo. We worked as a team 2:21:10.480 --> 2:21:14.119 like perhaps no team has ever worked before, and we've 2:21:14.200 --> 2:21:17.560 gone a long way to erasing this horrible threat to Israel. 2:21:18.280 --> 2:21:21.480 I want to thank the Israeli military for the wonderful 2:21:21.600 --> 2:21:25.119 job they've done, and most importantly, I want to congratulate 2:21:25.200 --> 2:21:29.240 the great American patriots who flew those magnificent machines tonight 2:21:30.000 --> 2:21:33.120 and all of the United States military on an operation 2:21:33.320 --> 2:21:34.920 the likes of which the world has. 2:21:34.920 --> 2:21:36.560 Not seen in many, many decades. 2:21:37.400 --> 2:21:41.280 Hopefully we will no longer need their services and this capacity. 2:21:41.720 --> 2:21:42.480 I hope that's so. 2:21:43.360 --> 2:21:46.039 I also want to congratulate the Chairman of the Joint 2:21:46.120 --> 2:21:51.280 Chiefs of Staff, General Dan Raisin Kane, spectacular General, and 2:21:51.440 --> 2:21:54.520 all of the brilliant military minds involved in this attack. 2:21:55.480 --> 2:21:58.320 With all of that being said, this cannot continue. There 2:21:58.360 --> 2:22:01.760 will be either peace or there will be tragedy for 2:22:01.879 --> 2:22:05.000 a ran far greater than we have witnessed over the 2:22:05.080 --> 2:22:10.640 last eight days. Remember, there are many targets left. The 2:22:10.760 --> 2:22:13.560 Nights was the most difficult of them all by far, 2:22:14.200 --> 2:22:17.760 and perhaps the most lethal. But if peace does not 2:22:17.920 --> 2:22:21.920 come quickly, we will go after those other targets with precision, 2:22:22.680 --> 2:22:27.160 speed and skill. Most of them can be taken out 2:22:27.240 --> 2:22:30.080 in a matter of minutes. There's no military in the 2:22:30.160 --> 2:22:33.000 world that could have done what we did tonight, not 2:22:33.120 --> 2:22:35.760 even close. There has never been a military that could 2:22:35.840 --> 2:22:39.800 do what took place just a little while ago. Tomorrow, 2:22:40.000 --> 2:22:44.640 General Kin, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth will have a 2:22:44.720 --> 2:22:46.400 press conference at eight am. 2:22:46.280 --> 2:22:47.040 At the Pentagon. 2:22:47.800 --> 2:22:52.520 And I want to just thank everybody, and in particular God, 2:22:53.240 --> 2:22:55.640 I want to just say, we love you God, and 2:22:55.760 --> 2:22:59.880 we love our great military. Protect them. God bless the 2:23:00.080 --> 2:23:03.879 Middle East, God bless Israel, and God bless America. 2:23:03.959 --> 2:23:04.760 Thank you very much. 2:23:05.280 --> 2:23:08.400 Thank you there. He is US President Donald Trump. Speaking 2:23:08.440 --> 2:23:12.080 at the White House about forty minutes ago. He said 2:23:12.080 --> 2:23:17.240 the objectives to destroy Iran's nuclear enrichment capacity and stop 2:23:17.320 --> 2:23:20.080 the quite nuclear threat posed by the world's number one 2:23:20.120 --> 2:23:25.120 state sponsor of Terra, and that mission had been accomplished. 2:23:25.120 --> 2:23:28.760 Trump said in the strikes he described as a spectacular 2:23:29.200 --> 2:23:34.440 military success, Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely 2:23:35.000 --> 2:23:38.880 and totally obliterated. Trump said, in what could mark the 2:23:39.360 --> 2:23:45.680 end of Trump's isolationalism and core Maga principles, Trump threatened 2:23:45.680 --> 2:23:48.520 more strikes on Iran if the country did not make peace, 2:23:49.560 --> 2:23:51.920 saying if they do not, future attacks will be far 2:23:52.040 --> 2:23:55.200 greater and a lot easier. Trump said that there were 2:23:55.280 --> 2:24:00.400 many targets left and characterized these attacks as the most difficult, 2:24:00.440 --> 2:24:04.960 that is the ones completed earlier. Today, Trump personally thanked 2:24:05.120 --> 2:24:09.760 Israel Prime Minister Benjamin nettan Yahoo and signal to renewed 2:24:09.840 --> 2:24:13.240 closeness and strength to the relationship. He says, we worked 2:24:13.240 --> 2:24:15.720 as a team like perhaps no team has ever worked before. 2:24:16.840 --> 2:24:21.720 Dave Sharma is the former Oskogian ambassador to Israel. It 2:24:21.879 --> 2:24:23.640 was on Sky News moments ago. 2:24:23.520 --> 2:24:25.920 And said this I think I think that's right, and 2:24:26.000 --> 2:24:30.160 I think it's essential that Australia supports what the United 2:24:30.200 --> 2:24:36.400 States has done overnight. This will dramatically set back Iran's 2:24:36.640 --> 2:24:39.920 nuclear program, which has been a concern not just for Israel, 2:24:40.000 --> 2:24:41.640 not just for countries in the Middle East, but for 2:24:41.720 --> 2:24:46.000 the entire global community. It's a concern that diplomacy, patient 2:24:46.120 --> 2:24:49.600 and painstaking diplomacy over many years, has failed to address. 2:24:49.720 --> 2:24:52.760 And if the US administration, out of Donald Trump, has 2:24:52.840 --> 2:24:55.840 been prepared to take military steps to address this, I 2:24:55.879 --> 2:24:59.080 think it's clear. As an ally and as someone who 2:24:59.120 --> 2:25:02.920 opposes new clear proliferation efforts, Australia should be giving our 2:25:03.000 --> 2:25:04.200 full throat of support to that. 2:25:05.120 --> 2:25:09.080 Dave Sharma a text from a listener. These are options, 2:25:09.160 --> 2:25:13.000 and there are options rather and they're called negotiations. We 2:25:13.120 --> 2:25:16.400 cannot risk a possible WW three because someone decided to 2:25:16.480 --> 2:25:20.160 bombard another country because they might have a bigger bomb. 2:25:20.920 --> 2:25:24.120 This is ridiculous. I have to say comments like that 2:25:24.360 --> 2:25:29.040 are in the significant minority from comments from other listeners 2:25:29.080 --> 2:25:32.560 who are asking the question, where is our Prime minister 2:25:33.280 --> 2:25:37.920 and his support for this probably being focus group shopped 2:25:38.000 --> 2:25:43.840 right now. But for those that need perhaps an understanding 2:25:43.959 --> 2:25:46.640 of how it came to this. It was only I 2:25:46.680 --> 2:25:51.560 think yesterday that the Iranian Foreign Minister made it I 2:25:51.640 --> 2:25:54.640 think abundantly clear, and this has been translated, i think 2:25:54.720 --> 2:25:59.640 by Fox News in the US abundantly clear that negotiations 2:25:59.680 --> 2:26:00.200 weren't thing. 2:26:00.280 --> 2:26:03.680 Have a listen, we are not seeking negotiations. It is 2:26:03.760 --> 2:26:07.520 the Americans who want talks. They've sent messages several times, 2:26:08.160 --> 2:26:11.360 very serious ones, but we made it explicitly clear to 2:26:11.440 --> 2:26:15.000 them that as long as this aggression and invasion continues, 2:26:15.680 --> 2:26:19.280 there's absolutely no room for talk or just pomacy. We 2:26:19.800 --> 2:26:23.440 are engaged in legitimate self defense and this defense will 2:26:23.480 --> 2:26:27.640 not stop under any circumstances. We have nothing to discuss 2:26:27.680 --> 2:26:30.680 with the United States, which is a partner in these crimes. 2:26:31.320 --> 2:26:34.400 Yeah, I think, I think negotiations weren't going to be 2:26:34.440 --> 2:26:36.480 a thing. Don't you hearing that? 2:26:38.280 --> 2:26:38.720 There? You are? 2:26:38.959 --> 2:26:43.880 Well, that's the very lightest As I mentioned earlier. Don't worry. 2:26:44.080 --> 2:26:47.600 We will continue our kabativ around yous, and if something 2:26:47.680 --> 2:26:50.520 of significant sprikes, you'll hear about it. The boys on 2:26:50.640 --> 2:26:55.000 the Continuous Call Team no for guide today is say no. 2:26:55.200 --> 2:26:57.600 So we can see the boys on the Continuous Call 2:26:57.680 --> 2:27:01.440 Team can break in we might have our Middle Eastern 2:27:02.240 --> 2:27:06.680 policy expert, the big Man, across all the details of this, 2:27:08.280 --> 2:27:10.920 no doubt. So yeah, quite seriously, we'll have all that 2:27:11.040 --> 2:27:13.320 covered for you through the remains of the day and 2:27:13.440 --> 2:27:16.840 as we get back to our weekday lineup tomorrow, starting 2:27:16.920 --> 2:27:20.560 with Ben. Of course, I think Mike's on open. I 2:27:20.640 --> 2:27:22.840 didn't Mike Jefferies. I think Mike might be on air 2:27:22.920 --> 2:27:28.760 when they have the Pentagon press conference, he said ten hours. 2:27:30.360 --> 2:27:35.480 Maybe it's maybe it's Bill. Anyway, whenever it's on and 2:27:35.520 --> 2:27:40.120 whoever is on, you will have it directly on two 2:27:40.200 --> 2:27:43.600 GB and four BC. Yes, this is me wrapping up 2:27:44.200 --> 2:27:47.040 the role and courage. Hopefully we've given you all the 2:27:47.120 --> 2:27:49.280 information that you needed to know. And can I just 2:27:49.400 --> 2:27:53.160 thank my friend and colleague from four BC, Shiv for 2:27:53.360 --> 2:27:55.880 getting in touch and I hope listeners everywhere have been 2:27:55.879 --> 2:27:59.280 able to follow this story as it's made its way 2:27:59.320 --> 2:28:01.800 into the New Side. Michel starting with a social media 2:28:01.920 --> 2:28:06.640 post from Donald Trump that happened this morning at ten 2:28:06.720 --> 2:28:10.640 minutes to ten o'clock on Truth Social, the Trump'ster's own 2:28:11.280 --> 2:28:16.840 social media platform, where he said where he said, we've 2:28:16.920 --> 2:28:20.920 completed our very successful attack on the three nuclear sites 2:28:20.959 --> 2:28:26.480 in Iran, including for Doe, the Tans and Esfahan. All 2:28:26.520 --> 2:28:30.920 planes are now outside of Iran airspace. Full payload of 2:28:30.959 --> 2:28:34.560 bombs was dropped on the primary site for Doe or 2:28:34.680 --> 2:28:37.560 planes safety on their way home. Congrats to our great 2:28:37.600 --> 2:28:42.160 American warriors. There's not another military in the world that 2:28:42.240 --> 2:28:44.240 could have done this. Now is the time for peace, 2:28:45.080 --> 2:28:49.960 and he thanks the world for their attention. The key 2:28:50.080 --> 2:28:53.800 point being Donald Trump saying this is a time for peace. 2:28:54.600 --> 2:28:59.039 That would require the targets of that attack to say, yeah, 2:28:59.120 --> 2:29:02.760 fair enough, And I think given all the statements referred 2:29:02.800 --> 2:29:06.600 from them, there's the Niles and other such things, that's 2:29:06.680 --> 2:29:09.920 unlikely to be the case. So our attention is drawn 2:29:10.000 --> 2:29:14.320 to what happens next, and who knows when that will be. 2:29:14.480 --> 2:29:17.640 But as I said, we will be right across that 2:29:17.879 --> 2:29:21.320 the minute it happens. We'll let you know whatever programs 2:29:21.400 --> 2:29:24.400 on air. So it's coming up to a quarter to 2:29:24.520 --> 2:29:28.720 one here on weekends with Luke Grant. The text is 2:29:29.000 --> 2:29:31.680 zero four six zero eight seven three eight seven three. 2:29:31.720 --> 2:29:35.000 The emails two GB dot com before we see dot 2:29:35.080 --> 2:29:37.800 com dot you. I think I've been speaking for a 2:29:37.879 --> 2:29:40.800 long time, so let me just pause briefly will we 2:29:40.879 --> 2:29:44.720 do the quiz today? No, we're not doing the quiz today. No, 2:29:44.879 --> 2:29:46.880 you're not getting a pillow out of me. Damn it. 2:29:47.879 --> 2:29:50.840 Let's give away a pillow. We've got to at some 2:29:51.000 --> 2:29:54.039 point in the show. Smile. We'll do that and I'll 2:29:54.560 --> 2:29:56.760 find the boys at the footy too. All after this 2:29:56.879 --> 2:30:00.440 at fourteen to one. Now, despite the extraordinary awning we've 2:30:00.480 --> 2:30:04.080 had together, we do intend because I'm having a holiday 2:30:04.640 --> 2:30:08.840 after this for a couple of weeks. And I said, 2:30:08.840 --> 2:30:11.720 when I got to work today, I said, didn't I Nelson, 2:30:11.840 --> 2:30:14.320 my executive producer, I said, I don't care if the 2:30:14.480 --> 2:30:18.120 US bomb a run today, We're doing the quiz. I 2:30:18.240 --> 2:30:21.960 said that, And like an hour later, Hello, Donald Trump 2:30:22.040 --> 2:30:26.879 says what I told you. He says, So spinal E's 2:30:26.959 --> 2:30:30.039 pillow suffering from headaches, saw neck or storing. The solution 2:30:30.160 --> 2:30:32.680 could be the world's best premium supportive pillow, the spinal 2:30:32.720 --> 2:30:35.720 Ees pillow water. Now it's spinal Ease at e dot 2:30:35.760 --> 2:30:39.080 com dot au. There will be three questions. Of course, 2:30:39.120 --> 2:30:43.600 we've been so engrossed in bringing you this coverage. I'm 2:30:43.640 --> 2:30:47.520 going to make the questions up on the fly, so 2:30:47.840 --> 2:30:50.760 I know they're normally almost impossible to answer today. Is 2:30:50.760 --> 2:30:53.360 are going to be next level? After we're done, the 2:30:53.440 --> 2:30:56.039 news will be on and then it's the continuous call team. 2:30:56.600 --> 2:31:01.520 And if I'm right, one Iron a ka Gavin Pitchford 2:31:02.280 --> 2:31:05.400 a ka, you can have a couple of hundred months 2:31:05.480 --> 2:31:07.680 to live on? Is joining him? 2:31:07.720 --> 2:31:07.800 Us? 2:31:08.000 --> 2:31:10.400 Joining us? From aling on stadium? Is that where you are? Mate? 2:31:10.920 --> 2:31:12.200 We are beautiful out here. 2:31:12.360 --> 2:31:15.000 Yeah, the roosters a bit coldish. 2:31:15.080 --> 2:31:17.360 We had a few dramas with parking, but we'll get 2:31:17.400 --> 2:31:18.680 to that after one o'clock today. 2:31:19.160 --> 2:31:21.160 Who did you? Did you have the dramas or was 2:31:21.200 --> 2:31:21.840 it someone else? 2:31:22.200 --> 2:31:22.240 No? 2:31:22.360 --> 2:31:24.959 Pretty much all of us MG Daryl couldn't find where 2:31:24.959 --> 2:31:27.440 it was going. But we've we've found the culprit here 2:31:27.560 --> 2:31:30.199 and his name starts with H and ends in a Rish. 2:31:30.680 --> 2:31:33.800 So comf hammering after. 2:31:33.720 --> 2:31:40.400 This, Hey, hey, we're we're in a different different era. 2:31:41.120 --> 2:31:44.400 We we we we share and care for each other. 2:31:44.480 --> 2:31:45.320 We love each other. 2:31:45.840 --> 2:31:47.160 If he doesn't. 2:31:47.200 --> 2:31:47.879 If you're having. 2:31:49.720 --> 2:31:51.119 It takes over car parks. 2:31:51.240 --> 2:31:52.720 If you're having a crack at a Rish, you have 2:31:52.800 --> 2:31:54.080 you and crack at me. You're happy with that? 2:31:54.240 --> 2:31:54.440 Are you? 2:31:55.840 --> 2:31:56.040 Yes? 2:31:56.080 --> 2:31:58.960 I am? Because her Rish doesn't care about anyone else. 2:31:59.040 --> 2:32:03.400 He doesn't give a raph you're an elitist. Yeah, good point, Okay, goodbye. 2:32:03.520 --> 2:32:07.279 I love your work, Big mat Hey, Gav Yes, Roosters 2:32:07.560 --> 2:32:10.840 and the Cowboys anyone, I know there's a few Roosters 2:32:10.879 --> 2:32:14.920 haters in the team. Anyone anyone tipping the Cowboys? Have 2:32:15.000 --> 2:32:16.160 you ascertained yet? 2:32:16.879 --> 2:32:19.000 I'm not sure if anyone's tipping the Cowboys. I'll just 2:32:19.040 --> 2:32:20.959 get a quick yet Darryl has. 2:32:20.879 --> 2:32:21.720 I am Boys? 2:32:21.840 --> 2:32:24.400 Oh yeah, no, here we go. Roosters hater. 2:32:27.800 --> 2:32:29.879 Now. I used to like the Roosters back at nineteen 2:32:29.879 --> 2:32:31.360 when they won the comp because I was on I'm 2:32:31.400 --> 2:32:35.400 in the double with Richmond. Other than that, they've let 2:32:35.440 --> 2:32:36.760 me down badly last few years. 2:32:37.480 --> 2:32:40.640 Darryl did the Chucks ever enticey with a contract. 2:32:41.800 --> 2:32:43.640 Well there's another issue, of course, not. 2:32:46.879 --> 2:32:50.360 Fair enough. Gosh, of course you got one of the 2:32:50.440 --> 2:32:54.040 great Roosters or former roosters on with Piggy Riddell in 2:32:54.160 --> 2:32:57.760 the team today, MG probably wishes he did play for 2:32:57.840 --> 2:33:00.280 the Roosters, and he would have looked, would have. 2:33:00.240 --> 2:33:00.840 Looked very much. 2:33:01.160 --> 2:33:04.320 He would have looked. He would not have looked out 2:33:04.320 --> 2:33:06.080 of place in a red, white and blue jersey. I 2:33:06.160 --> 2:33:08.720 can tell you an emergency. 2:33:08.720 --> 2:33:10.600 Place he has had a gig in the last couple 2:33:10.640 --> 2:33:11.000 of years. 2:33:11.240 --> 2:33:13.760 What it's unbelievable. 2:33:15.400 --> 2:33:15.920 Let's talk. 2:33:16.320 --> 2:33:17.200 Can you drop your pen? 2:33:18.680 --> 2:33:19.680 Yes, you're ready to listen. 2:33:19.760 --> 2:33:24.959 I'm ready. Yeah, good luck mate, you're going to cop 2:33:25.040 --> 2:33:31.400 heats today. I'll be thinking of you. And remember it's 2:33:31.440 --> 2:33:34.320 a new and new environment. If they attack you, they 2:33:34.360 --> 2:33:39.200 attacked me, they attacked everyone. Loyalty exactly, it's a new thing. 2:33:39.640 --> 2:33:42.400 See you mate, have fun out there. Bye bye, One 2:33:42.480 --> 2:33:46.720 Iron and the Boys, MG, Piggy Riddell and the Big Man. 2:33:46.879 --> 2:33:49.800 I love listening to them. I love listening to them 2:33:50.320 --> 2:33:53.200 after the one o'clock news, after the heavy morning we've had. 2:33:53.320 --> 2:33:55.680 It'll be good to hear. Of course at two o'clock 2:33:55.760 --> 2:33:57.959 the Bronx and the Sharks, and that four or five 2:33:58.040 --> 2:34:01.840 the Sydney Roosters and the cow Boys. Maddie Thompson will 2:34:01.879 --> 2:34:04.720 be out there to call that beauty alongside the Big 2:34:04.800 --> 2:34:08.000 Man and the Pig on the sideline. Does it get 2:34:08.000 --> 2:34:10.840 any better? I don't think so. And then there's a 2:34:10.879 --> 2:34:13.440 game at six o'clock too, the Eels and the Titans. 2:34:13.560 --> 2:34:15.320 Would you like to play the quiz music? 2:34:16.080 --> 2:34:16.240 Here? 2:34:16.320 --> 2:34:16.600 It is. 2:34:18.200 --> 2:34:20.800 My contestant is who would you like me to talk 2:34:20.879 --> 2:34:25.600 to who is my contestant that we found one? You're 2:34:25.680 --> 2:34:30.039 saying line two Andrew at Marubra got I Andrew. 2:34:31.360 --> 2:34:31.520 Luke? 2:34:31.560 --> 2:34:33.440 How are you pretty good? Mate? How are you? 2:34:34.440 --> 2:34:34.640 Yeah? 2:34:34.760 --> 2:34:35.119 Very well? 2:34:35.440 --> 2:34:35.880 Excellent? 2:34:36.160 --> 2:34:36.280 Right? 2:34:36.320 --> 2:34:38.520 I have three questions to get the to get the 2:34:38.840 --> 2:34:43.080 pillow out of interest? Do you ever have trouble sleeping 2:34:43.160 --> 2:34:45.160 or do you end up with a sore neck or 2:34:45.320 --> 2:34:45.840 stuff like that? 2:34:46.840 --> 2:34:50.080 I actually do Luke so oh crossed for this and 2:34:50.680 --> 2:34:51.640 supporter team. 2:34:51.760 --> 2:34:55.280 Okay, Well, I can't just give it to you. We 2:34:55.440 --> 2:35:00.320 never do that on this quiz. Here's question one. The 2:35:00.480 --> 2:35:07.000 Greens spokesperson on defense is a David shoe Bridge or 2:35:07.959 --> 2:35:09.640 David T. Shirt Bridge. 2:35:11.160 --> 2:35:12.880 I'll go to the first one, David shoe Bridges. 2:35:13.200 --> 2:35:19.279 Okay, there's a game at Allion Stadium this afternoon the Cowboys. 2:35:20.080 --> 2:35:23.800 Are they playing the Sydney Roosters or the New York Yankees? 2:35:25.000 --> 2:35:26.560 Are the mighty Sydney Roosters? 2:35:26.680 --> 2:35:29.480 Well done? Third question for the pillow. Good luck with this. 2:35:31.440 --> 2:35:34.119 Today's my final show for a few weeks because I'm 2:35:34.200 --> 2:35:39.800 going on holidays. Am I bloody delirious or punching myself 2:35:39.879 --> 2:35:40.520 in the head. 2:35:42.600 --> 2:35:44.280 Munching? 2:35:44.879 --> 2:35:45.039 Oh? 2:35:45.160 --> 2:35:46.279 Don't you dare. 2:35:48.240 --> 2:35:48.280 No. 2:35:48.840 --> 2:35:50.800 It's the second bloody delirious. 2:35:55.000 --> 2:35:58.680 That lists is why Andrew is a Sydney Rooster supporter. 2:35:58.840 --> 2:36:01.560 He is a genius. Good on you, mate, thanks a 2:36:01.640 --> 2:36:04.720 lot for listening. I appreciate that very much. Indeed, spinal 2:36:05.000 --> 2:36:09.000 Pillows spinaleas at e dot com dot a you headache, 2:36:09.040 --> 2:36:11.440 Sawnkels storing you don't need to, that doesn't have to 2:36:11.480 --> 2:36:15.199 be you right, get the right pillow back in a second. 2:36:15.240 --> 2:36:18.440 Now we've got a statement from a government spokesperson courtesy 2:36:18.480 --> 2:36:22.000 of our mates in the nine television news room. They say, 2:36:22.280 --> 2:36:25.120 we've been clear that Araund's nuclear and ballistic missile program 2:36:25.200 --> 2:36:28.280 has been a threat to international peace and security. We 2:36:28.440 --> 2:36:30.800 note the US President's statement saying now it's the time 2:36:30.879 --> 2:36:35.240 for peace. The security situation is highly volatile. We continue 2:36:35.280 --> 2:36:39.640 to call for de escalation, dialogue and diplomacy. Great, that's 2:36:39.680 --> 2:36:44.040 from the federal government. All right, time to go. Look, 2:36:44.080 --> 2:36:46.160 I have to thank my team. They've been brilliant. Well 2:36:46.160 --> 2:36:50.400 they're always brilliant. But Nelson Scott, my executive producer, Leslie 2:36:50.440 --> 2:36:55.119 the Possum Thompson who's helped out today. Liam's been here 2:36:55.200 --> 2:36:58.680 making noise by pushing things and I've been here as well, 2:36:58.720 --> 2:37:01.560 and thank you so much much for listening. I hope 2:37:01.600 --> 2:37:03.680 we've been able to inform you properly today. I'll be 2:37:03.720 --> 2:37:05.480 away for a few weeks, but I can't wait to 2:37:05.520 --> 2:37:08.000 get back. Really, I cannot wait. Bye bye,