WEBVTT - WEDNESDAY SHOW - 11th June 📻 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:05.319 Welcome to the ben Fordham Podcast. 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:10.440 Hi there, Welcome to Wednesday, June eleven. Coming up on 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:13.800 the podcast today, the Greens accused of racism and the 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:17.840 accusations are coming from within. A leaked report from the 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:21.520 former Green senator Derinda Cox telling everyone what it's really 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:25.800 like inside the Greens. Also, ten killed in a school 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:29.120 shooting in Austria. You'll hear the moment the gunment open 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:32.960 fire and kids were hiding under their school desks. In 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:36.479 the United States, tensions rises. More troops are sent to 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:39.839 stop the protests in Los Angeles and they're not just riding, 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:44.199 they're looting. A major milestone for Western Sydney's new airport. 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:46.720 We'll talk to one of the workers, twenty year old 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:51.280 Emma Tran. Why does Google have a Fox problem? Adam 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:55.040 Gilchris will solve that from the UK and kids on 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:59.040 dirt bikes causing chaos on suburban streets will have a 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:00.920 look at that, and a whole a lot more. The 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:02.800 show starts now. 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:06.840 Like what you're hearing, Subscribe to the ben Fordham Live 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:09.520 podcast through Apple and Spotify. 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:14.560 We start this morning with a horrific incident in Austria. 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:18.200 At least ten people have been killed dozens are injured 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:22.160 after a school shooting. A former student is understood to 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:26.200 be responsible for the attack in Austria. It's happened at 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:29.480 a secondary school. Police believe the twenty one year old 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:33.039 shootor was operating alone when he entered the school with 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:38.080 two guns. Other students were recording on their mobile phones 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:48.920 while hiding under their desks. The sound of gunshots rang 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:52.240 through the corridors of the secondary school. Students were running 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:56.520 for their lives. Seven girls have been killed and three 0:01:56.560 --> 0:02:00.720 boys are dead. The death toll may rise. More than 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:04.120 three hundred police have been called to the area. Ambulance 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:07.800 has arrived within minutes and following the rampage, the shooter 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:11.480 took his own life. His body was found in a bathroom. 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:15.840 Police have no information about a motive. The shooter wasn't 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:19.720 previously known to police. He attended the school in the past, 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:24.760 but he did not graduate. The Austrian Chancellor, Christian Stoker, 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:27.760 has labeled it a dark day in the history of 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:30.400 the country. He says there are no words for the 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:34.000 pain and grief that we are feeling right now. He 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:37.639 says this is a national tragedy that has deeply shaken 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:39.079 our entire country. 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:44.400 Lingis has been Fordhamlife for Sydney's Best Breakfast on t 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:46.359 GB eight seventy three. 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:49.920 There is a story breaking right now about Derinda Cox, 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:52.920 who until recently was a Green Senator and then she 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:57.520 sensationally defected to the Labor Party, holding that news conference 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:00.960 with Anthony Albanisi in Western Australia and it took everyone 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:03.960 by surprise. And this is the same Dorinda Cox who 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:07.320 had previously been accused of bullying the living daylights out 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.880 of people when she was in the Greens. Well now 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:13.480 as story Lands. This morning, Dorinda Cox accuses the Greens 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:18.120 of racism in a scathing resignation letter and this has 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:21.760 been leaked to the ABC. In a fiery resignation letter, 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:25.760 ex Green Senator Dirnda Cox has accused her former party 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:30.720 of racism and ignoring serious claims she raised, including disputed 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:34.880 allegations of an assault at Perth Airport by a party member. 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:39.320 The senator also denied in her letter ever bullying others. 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:43.800 Senator Cox spectacularly defected to Labor after sitting as a 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:47.080 Green Senator for the past four years. The Greens revoked 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:51.080 Senator Cox's membership last week after her announcement. In a 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:54.560 formal resignation letter, Dirinda Cox said she was no longer 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:59.040 bound by confidentialality obligations and could put on the record 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:02.880 how the Greens had fled. She says, in my experience, 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:07.920 the Greens tolerated culture that permits violence against First Nations women. 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:13.280 In this respect, the party is deeply racist. So that's 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:17.320 Direnda Cox talking about the Greens deeply racist. She says, 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:21.480 my reports to the party in parliamentary workplace services range 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:24.680 from being assaulted at Perth Airport by a party member, 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.240 which was ignored, and then she also says that she 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:30.720 was advised not to report that matter to police and 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:34.400 the Greens have disputed that account. The Senator is also 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:38.200 named incidents of rumors being shared within the Greens networks 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:42.599 as examples of toxic culture. She says the Greens failed 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.159 in their duty of care for my staff and me 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.960 and they disregarded the reported and obvious impact of what 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:53.800 was occurring. The focus was solely on winning seats. So 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:57.800 that's the statement that has found its way into the 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:01.000 media this morning from Dirinda Cox. It's her resignation letter 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:03.920 from the Greens, and that's her way of saying see 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:04.320 you later. 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:09.320 This has been Fortum Live What Sydney's Best Breakfast on 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:11.520 to GV eight symmetry. 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.760 Have you come across as Sydney super Rats. There's a 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:18.880 new genetic mutation of black rats, which are the most 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:22.360 common type in Australia. New research shows they're harder to 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:27.320 get rid of because they've developed a resistance to rat poison. Great, 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:32.440 that's just what we need, super rats. The environmental toxicologist 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:36.919 Alisia Gorbald has tested hundreds of rats across Australia. What 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:41.000 a job. In Sydney, forty six percent of black rats 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:44.920 have been found to have the genetic mutation. Experts say 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:48.560 the findings are alarming because rat poison is already lethal 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:52.159 for native birds, frogs and reptiles, so if it's not 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:56.280 working to kill the rats, then it's killing something else instead. 0:05:57.720 --> 0:05:59.839 The researcher says, if you're using one of the baits 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:02.760 that don't work, people will probably try to use more 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:05.919 and more and more, and it's feeding back into the 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:09.040 cycle of increasing the rates of resistance in the population. 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:13.160 She's told The Sydney Morning Herald we're ending up essentially 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:16.240 with a public health issue because we've got these rats 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:20.520 that can't be controlled, so be careful, Sydney. The super 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:24.400 rats are taking over. It is June eleven, and on 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:28.960 this day some very special people arrived down Under. Now 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:42.440 this is a bit of a confusing hint. Yes, we've 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:45.400 made this our toughest hint yet. I think the year 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:50.280 was nineteen sixty four. And the boys, well there were 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:55.760 four of them, but they're unrelated to this music. It 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.160 happened on this day and the answer is coming up 0:06:58.200 --> 0:06:58.840 on this day. 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:04.000 Well, this is Sydney's Best Breakfast with Ben Fordham on 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:04.920 to GB. 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:09.560 Daniel is listening from a very pleasant Belgium. Thank you 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:11.640 very much, Daniel for tuning in from the other side 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:14.320 of the world. Ben says, I'm turning fifty today. Got 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:17.520 up early to walk the dogs in negative two degrees 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.320 conditions while listening to you on the radio from Canberra. 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.920 Great start to my next fifty years. Happy birthday, Ben, 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.200 and this one from Timmy saying thanks for keeping us 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:31.560 informed and updated on so many different issues. My husband 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.920 Tony has always listened to GB. He wakes up to 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:38.120 your voice and says, there's no radio station like it. 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:41.400 He just came out of surgery and he isn't doing 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:46.000 too well, but today's his seventieth birthday. Hearing you wish 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.520 him well on his birthday would mean a great deal. 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.120 I'm grateful if you could spare a few seconds to 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.880 wish Tony all the best on his seventieth well. 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But we also want to 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:59.760 say thank you for your loyalty towards radio to gb 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.240 because we love the fact that you love what we 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:06.640 do here and we love having listeners like you and 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:08.720 when you're feeling better, if you're up for it, if 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:10.440 you'd like to come in one morning and have a 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:14.680 look behind the scenes, we'd love to welcome you. 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:18.920 You're listening to the ben Fordham Podcast and now ben 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:20.120 Fordham Comments. 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.360 There's an update today on an issue we've spoken about 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:26.800 before and we hate to say we told you so, 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:29.600 but we did say in March that this was an 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:32.199 issue that wasn't going to go away, and we did 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:36.280 say back then that Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi should step 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:39.200 in and just deal with it. Three months later, we 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.800 read this today in The Australian from Dennis Shanahan and 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:47.200 Jeff Chambers. Anthony Albanesi has been asked to personally intervene 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:51.080 in a four hundred million dollar compensation claim for Australian 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:54.120 and American citizens as part of an upcoming deal with 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:57.520 Donald Trump on trade tariffs. As the Prime Minister prepares 0:08:57.559 --> 0:08:59.920 to meet the President on the sidelines of the G seven, 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:04.800 trade representatives in Washington, DC are seeking a resolution to 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:08.600 the compensation claim arising from the New South Wales government's 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:13.400 confiscation of mining leases back in twenty fourteen. US trade 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:17.520 representatives have repeatedly raised the lack of compensation for US 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:21.440 investors as a breach of the US Australia Free Trade Agreement. 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:25.400 The US has listed the disagreement as an official investment 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:29.440 barrier in its annual Foreign Trade report released in March. 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:34.120 American and Australian representatives of Mum and Dad shareholders have 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:37.880 appealed to mister Albineasy to provide compensation. So that's in 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:40.600 the Australian today. And as we said back in March, 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.599 when America is slapping US with tariffs, Australia has the 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:47.319 chance to do a deal here with Donald Trump. Seven 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:50.000 hundred thousand Americans were left with a bad taste in 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:53.920 their mouth about Australia all because of this new coal disaster. 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:56.760 Donald Trump wants to get a win for them. The 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.079 PM should take a leaf out of the Trump playbook 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:02.000 and do a deal. That's what we said back in March. 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.040 So the American investors in New Coal, just like the 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:08.960 Aussie ones, had no way of knowing that a corrupt 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:13.120 New South Wales minister had granted a coal license, and 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:16.440 the Independent Commission against Corruption made it clear that the 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:20.480 company and its shareholders were innocent parties and were never 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:24.840 accused of wrongdoing. So mum and Dad investors lost everything. 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:31.200 Seventy percent of them are Australians and seven hundred thousand Americans. 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:36.000 Their only crime buying shares in an Aussie coal company. 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:39.720 Australian now has the chance to make good on this 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:44.600 injustice and just so we're clear on something, because whenever 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.680 we mention new coal, we do receive feedback along these lines. 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:51.280 This is not a case of an investment going south, 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:55.280 because that's all part of the risk of investing. Sometimes 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:58.000 they go up, sometimes they go down. That's not what 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:00.920 this is about. In this case, the vent yesters essentially 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:05.920 had their assets confiscated. The New South Wales government canceled 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:09.880 the license and they took away New Coal's ability to 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:14.720 seek compensation, and nobody anywhere says that it was fair. 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:18.920 The PM needs to bring something to the negotiating table 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:22.560 with Donald Trump and Washington. DC is saying loud and clear, 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:24.959 this issue needs to be fixed. 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:31.079 Like what you're hearing, make sure you've subscribed to Benfordon. 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:38.600 A paramedic is raising concerns about confusing signs at Gosford 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:42.080 Hospital on the New South Wales central coast. On the signs, 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:45.360 Indigenous language is used to describe the area of the 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:49.560 hospital or what the room is used for, and then 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:54.920 in smaller writing below there's an English translation. For example, 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:59.440 one of the signs says badge al barrong. Under it 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:04.480 it's translate to sick cave. What does sick cave mean? 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:09.520 Well below the main sign is another one saying emergency department. 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:15.640 Oh so badgel barong means sick cave and sick cave 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:19.360 means emergency department. Can you imagine if you're a busy 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.920 ambo looking for the ed. There's another sign which says 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:29.959 manna gallering boga. It's translated to bring back. What does 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:33.480 bring back mean? Well below the main sign is another 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:39.960 one saying resuscitation, bays so maner gallering. Boga means bring back, 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:45.000 and bring back means resuscitation, bays Rod Roberts. He is 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:48.600 the independent upper House MP. He's seen these signs as well, 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:50.080 and he wants to have his say, and he's on 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:51.760 the line, Rod, good morning to you. 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:53.040 Good morning, Ben. 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:54.880 How confusing do they want to make it? 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:58.600 Well, it's very confusing, Ben, But not any is a confusing, Mate. 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.120 I like to think it's danger if you were to 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:03.319 rush in there as a parent with a sick child, 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.360 or you're coming into yourself with an injury, blood spurting 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:08.760 out of you. For example, Mate, you're not looking for 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:11.560 Budjong bar wrong. You want the biggest sign that shows 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:14.360 you where the emergency department is so you can get 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:16.000 treated as soon as possible. 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:20.560 I think we've become accustomed to indigenous names being put 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:23.800 up on various signs around the place, but this is 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:27.360 actually given center stage. So the main sign at the top. 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.079 And we know the way the human mind works, in 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.440 the way our eyes work. If you've got a sign 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:33.800 at the top and a sign at the bottom, we 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:36.199 go to the top first, and the first sign says 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:39.680 bagel bar rang. Then you see sick cave, then you 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:43.520 see emergency department. Shouldn't it say emergency department at the. 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:45.120 Top, of course it should. 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:47.240 I remember most a long time since I went to school, Ben, 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:49.040 But I remember you learned to read from the top 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:50.840 of the page and work your way down. So the 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:52.640 first thing you look at is for the very top, 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:56.000 have emergency at the top in big print, and if 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.760 you want to do something else, put it below. But Ben, 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:01.080 once I found out about this stuff, I need a 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:04.360 bit of research. So the last census the Central Coast 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:08.480 Local Government Area where Gosford Hospital is only four point 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:13.240 nine percent of the population identifies Indigenous four point nine percent. 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:15.240 If you want to put something up, put it up, 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:18.080 put it in small printment, make sure the word emergency 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:19.680 is the big highlighted word. 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:21.800 The other issue you have, of course, is is there 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.760 are so many different Indigenous languages. So you might have 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.520 someone coming from Campsy in New South Wales who might 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.000 be Indigenous and they're not going to understand what manner 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:32.000 garling vulgar necessarily means. 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.520 Well, exactly, we know there's different mobs all around the place, 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:38.040 and all these different mobs have different languages, so it's 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:41.200 not going to assist anybody there. Then these hospitals are 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:43.760 going to get back to their core role, and their 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.960 core basics is attending, comforting and treating injured people, not 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:51.720 making wow political ideology statements. And I've had another look 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:54.800 at this Central Coast hospital too, being so the last 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:56.800 lot of stats that came out from the Bureau of 0:14:56.840 --> 0:15:01.400 Health Information in the Central Coast Gosford Hospital, only fifty 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:05.280 three percent, sorry, fifty five percent of the people start 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:08.359 their treatment on time. In the ed there's a benchmark 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:11.360 time and only fifty five percent of them start treatment 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:15.000 on its time. And why on hospital which is part 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.680 of the same local health district, only forty seven percent 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:21.000 of people start treatment on time. These hospitals got to 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.160 get back to doing the basics. And again in this 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:25.960 Mornings Telegraph you have seen it ben big story on 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:29.200 how the waiting times are blown out. Concentrate on their 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:33.000 core business, the business of attending to people, not making 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:34.120 political statements. 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:34.440 Yeah. 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:36.720 I'm also having a look here at one of these signs. 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:39.400 I think it's quite insulting to Indigenous people when you 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:44.360 call a room the bring back room instead of resuscitation base. 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:47.040 What are they suggesting that Indigenous people don't know what 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:48.440 a resuscitation bay is. 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:51.240 Well, exactly, it's a bit of an insult. As I 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:54.520 say four point nine percent of the population is Indigenous 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:56.840 in the Central Coast area. They can obviously all speak 0:15:56.880 --> 0:16:00.240 English men because they all completed the census. I think 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.040 it is an insult to them. 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:02.600 Yeah. 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:04.720 I know you're usually going into bout on behalf of 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.480 coppers as a former police officer, but on this occasion 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:09.880 you'll be supporting the paramedics who are saying, can we 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:11.680 just have plain English to let us know where the 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:12.280 ED is. 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:13.040 Oh? 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.400 Look, the hard working paramedics and of course the nurses 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:17.200 who are on the frontline would be copping the brun 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:20.720 of it from people that are confused, upset, not knowing 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:24.440 their way around the building. Just have it in plain English. 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.400 We're not talking about some airy faery area here, Ben, 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:30.680 We're talking about an emergency department in a hospital. 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:34.320 We're talking to Rod Roberts, the police officer turned independent 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:37.680 Upper House MP. While we've got you, Karen Webbers wrapped 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:39.880 up her time as the new So That Wales Police Commissioner. 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.040 She's now been appointed the state government's Special Advisor on 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:46.560 Domestic violence. But as we read in the Daily Telegraph today, 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:51.000 under Karen Webb's Watcher's Commissioner, incidents of domestic and family 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:55.000 violence increased and the number of checks on AVOs went down. 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:57.920 So the questions being asked today is she the right 0:16:57.960 --> 0:16:59.040 person for this role? 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.080 Well, I don't particularly think so, Ben. I mean, if 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:05.159 she's got all these great strategies to reduce domestic violence, 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:07.000 what has she done over the last three years while 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:09.640 she's been commissioned the police? Why is she saving it 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:13.240 until she's gone into some role with Jodie Harrison, the 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:16.040 Minister for Women. I just I don't think that there's 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:17.840 anything there, and I think this is some sort of 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:20.440 political payback for Karen being pushed out the door. 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:22.480 Have you got any word on who the next commission 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:22.960 is going to be? 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:23.800 Oh? 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.720 Ben, that's way above my pay gradet, way above my 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:29.359 But I'll tell you what, whoever it is, we'll have 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:31.639 a hard job in front of them, but they'll have 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:34.159 my full support because we've got to turn this police 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:35.080 force back around. 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:38.280 We appreciate your time, ride good on your Ben, Thanks 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.760 very much. Rod Roberts, the Upper House MP in New 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.880 South Wales Parliament, and just going back to Gosford Hospital 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:46.720 and my thanks to the ambo who sent this through. 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.479 They don't want to be identified for obvious reasons. I mean, 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:51.879 how confusing do you want to make it if you're 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:55.160 a paramedic pushing her patient through a hospital and look, 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:56.639 a lot of the time maybe you know where the 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:59.000 ED is, but you never know. You might have someone else, 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:01.560 a trainee who's coming along and they're looking for the 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:06.040 emergency department and instead you've got bad jewel bar ung 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:11.920 sick cave and then down below emergency department. Well, shouldn't 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.720 it be emergency department at the top, shouldn't we say? 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:17.520 Look in this kind of setting a little bit like 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:20.399 when you've got signs on the road or at an 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:22.560 airport and people are just trying to get from A 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:26.359 to B. Let's not worry about going woke. Let's just 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:31.919 make it easy for people. Just have emergency department. And 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:36.200 how insulting to Indigenous people that you call resuscitation bays 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:40.280 bring back rooms as in bring them back to life 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:44.960 manner gal raung baga bring back and then below you 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:48.879 find out that means resuscitation bays. How difficult do you 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:49.520 want to make it? 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:54.040 Like what you're hearing. Subscribe to the Ben Fordham Live 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:56.720 podcast through Apple and Spotify. 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:01.480 The Health Minister Ryan Parker, he says, Ben, leave that 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:04.440 with me. My priority is for staff, patients and visitors 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:07.480 to know where they are going and how they can 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:12.120 get access the most appropriate way when they're inside a hospital. 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:15.120 So that's from the Health Minister Ryan park He's already 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:18.400 responded to that conversation we just had with Rod Roberts 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:21.679 saying leave it with me. He's looking into it right now. 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:25.760 Tim says I've seen these indigenous signs at Maxville Hospital too. 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:29.679 Elizabeth says, give us a break. English is the universal language. 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:33.320 Jim says, I wonder how many people who identifies indigenous 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:37.200 in Gosford would understand what the signs mean. Anyway, Joe says, 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:40.720 Gosford Hospital what a total joke. Jack says, why are 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:44.399 we catering to four percent of the population. keV says 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:47.919 sick Cave sounds like a place that Batman has to 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:50.640 attend when he gets sick. And this is a good 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:54.480 point too. Jamie says, on the signs in the hospital 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:58.760 confusing enough for non Aboriginals, how confusing do you reckon 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:02.240 it is for people of ethnic origins. Well, that's true 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:04.439 as well. You have people from all different parts of 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:07.080 the world who call Australia home and it would have 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:09.359 been challenging enough for them to work out English for 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:11.880 some of them who don't come from English speaking parts 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:15.520 of the world, and then they're confronted with manor gallarung 0:20:15.600 --> 0:20:22.040 Bulga bring back and bad jul barung sick cave. Just 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:25.560 call it the emergency department and call it the Resuscitation. 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:28.160 Bays, Sydney's Best Breakfast. 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:32.359 I'll get your feedback on Q and A being axed 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:34.800 in just a moment. David has got some happy news 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:35.880 to share. Good morning to you. 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:38.400 David, Good morning, Ben, How are you good. 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:40.680 It involves your parents, Peter and Pat. 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:44.760 Yeah, Peter and Pat from Beverly Hill celebrating their seventieth 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:47.159 seven to oh wedding anniversary today. 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:48.960 Well what are they doing to celebrate? 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:52.359 Well, we're all going to extended families heading down the 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:53.360 Berrima for the weekend. 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:56.440 How did they stay married for so long? Is there 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:57.720 a secret that they can share? 0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:01.400 I'm not sure, but the family still together as a rule. 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:03.560 I've actually got three of their great grandkids. 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:05.240 You wish to say happy anniversaries. 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:07.280 They may, oh, yeah, that's fine. Who are the grandkids? 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:08.360 Who's going to yell out? 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:11.439 Ella? Brody and Mason? 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:14.159 Here they go happy. 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:19.680 That is so sweet. Thank you very much, David, and 0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:21.960 we hope you have a great day today, Peter and 0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:26.200 Pat from the whole family, including the grandkids. One three 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:28.679 one eight seven three is the open line number you 0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:32.280 can email benat two GB dot com and the text 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:35.920 line zero four six zero eight seven three eight seven three. 0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:39.359 Now this is good news and it's probably only a 0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:41.320 matter of time before we see this happen in New 0:21:41.400 --> 0:21:46.439 South Wales. The Queensland government is making Jack's Law even tougher. 0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:51.159 Police in Queensland will soon have unprecedented powers to search 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:55.280 people for knives in public places. Officers will no longer 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:59.600 need a warrant or reasonable suspicion to conduct the searchers. 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:03.359 They'll only need permission from a senior officer to wand 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:07.159 people in some public places. It's an expansion on the 0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:10.800 existing wanding laws which on a seventeen year old Jack 0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:13.560 Beasley he was fatally stabbed during a night out on 0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:17.240 the Gold Coast in twenty nineteen. The legislation currently gives 0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:21.360 police the ability to search people in specific locations, including 0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:25.919 nightlife precincts and public transport. But the beefed up legislation 0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:29.280 is due to pass Parliament today and it will give 0:22:29.359 --> 0:22:33.280