WEBVTT - Overnights with Mike Jeffreys - Monday 16th June 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:12.959 On two GB, four BC and network stations. This is 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:15.680 our strainer overnight with Mike Jeffreys. 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:20.360 Good morning, Welcome along. Plan is to be here for 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:24.639 quite a while. Let me see another five hours and 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:31.240 twenty two minutes. So what to talk about? Got any ideas? 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:33.680 If you do? Give me a ring one three one 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:35.760 eight seven three, or send me a text if you like. 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:38.440 That's you know, you just send the text and you 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:41.440 don't have to wait around or any of those things. Uh, 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:44.640 send me a text zero four six zero eight seven three. 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:46.520 That's the number if you want to send me a text, 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:49.680 or you could send me an email. To send it 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:52.960 to overnights at twogb dot com, although of course this 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:58.000 program goes all over the place as well as on 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:02.000 twogb dot com. What to talk about? What would you 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:05.840 like to talk about the Middle East? I'm looking the 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:09.480 front pages of Thin Review. It says world markets on 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:16.319 war alert, Middle East conflict overshadows PM Trump's meeting White 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:21.920 House threatens Iran oil price rise to fuel inflation. Ah, 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:25.800 that's a such a classic, isn't it. You know how 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:28.480 long has it been since we first said to the 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:32.520 block of this, why is petrol so expensive? And he said, 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:35.280 trouble in the Middle East night. When has there not 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.959 been trouble in the Middle East? But then again, maybe 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:44.440 this is more than the usual trouble. Time will tell. 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:50.120 I've been talking to people who made an interesting point 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:54.560 to me, which is that with what's happening between Israel 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:59.000 and Iran, you look at some of the pinpoint strikes 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:03.840 that Israel has been able to make. They're suggesting that 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:07.760 there are people in Iran who aren't happy with the 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:12.399 present regime, not in a position to overthrow themselves, but 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:14.560 if the Israelis can do it, then they can give 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:18.520 them a little helping hand by way of passing on 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:24.240 useful classified information for example about where or key generals 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:28.960 might be, or key nuclear scientists. They can just give 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:31.960 them a bit of a hand there, because not everybody 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:35.440 likes the sort of medieval barbarism that they get from 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:38.919 the Ayatolla. Who would have thought, you know, you look 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:42.240 at pictures of the women, for example, in Iran in 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:51.919 the seventies, and you'd find them, you know, anywhere else, Brisbane, Sydney, California, 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:56.480 name your place. But in the last few years there've 0:02:56.480 --> 0:03:00.720 been examples of young women, for example, not wearing the 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:05.519 clothing that is dictated and I do mean dictated by 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:11.480 the government, by the Ayatollah and his lot, and then 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:17.400 going to jail and then dying in mysterious circumstances. You know, 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:20.520 the government said, oh, she had a heart attack, but 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:22.880 then other people said no, actually she was beaten to death. 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:28.240 So not everybody's happy with that situation in Iran. So 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:32.600 maybe they're giving the Israelis with the hand. What do 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:36.360 you think and where's it going to end up? Well? 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.320 Who knows. But in the meantime, the suggestion is we 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:45.480 will get higher petrol prices, as we seem to do. Also, 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:47.800 talking about the finn Review, there's a bit there. We're 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:51.960 doing our bit. The Prime Minister tells Trump, how do 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:55.600 you think that's going to go? You know, he'll get 0:03:55.600 --> 0:04:00.440 a bit of time supposedly with the Donald at the 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:05.440 G seven. But Albo keeps talking, and I do mean 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:08.040 keeps talking. You probably notice this yourself. He keeps saying, 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:12.480 how we're you know, that is Australia great friends with 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:17.000 the US? Will that carry the day with Trump? For example, 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:21.600 when it comes to defense expenditure, I'm not so sure 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:27.080 saying we're friends, particularly when you consider the position that 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:30.480 this government has taken with well a couple of right 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:35.279 wing politicians in Israel. The US aren't supporting that position, 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.960 and I see pieces from commentators who say Albow might 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:44.800 go down as the great appeaser, the Neville Chamberlain of 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:50.120 his time, you know, appeasing China and all that. But anyway, 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:55.599 as far as we are great friends, will Trump find 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:59.520 that sufficient? I suspect not. I think he really will 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:05.400 insist that Australia pay more by way of the amount 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:08.360 of the GDP that actually goes to defense. Anyway, I'll 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:10.720 put that to a G. Gankarski later this morning, but 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:14.400 in the meantime, you may have a view. You're welcome 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:17.520 to put it. I'm going to talk to Nick Hayes. 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:20.520 He's from an organization called Media Stable. I'm going to 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:23.000 talk to him later this morning about the death of 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:27.520 the Political Panels show. Will You Miss It? Q and 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:31.320 A is gone? The drum went before that. The project's 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:35.960 just gone. I think they're dull, if only because they're 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:38.280 more about pushing a particular barrow than producing any kind 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:42.720 of decent, lively discussion by featuring people with different points 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:46.240 of view. Maybe they're just out of date. I mean, 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:48.839 why watch a panel of people agreeing with each other 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:51.720 when you can get all the agreement you want from 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:57.080 some social media silo. And speaking of groupthink, has anyone 0:05:57.240 --> 0:06:01.320 watched the ABC Media Watch lately? Now? I've only ever 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:04.360 paid occasional attention to it. It's been a long time 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:08.120 since I've worrited any attention from it. But wasn't it 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:10.480 supposed to be a critique of how different media outlets 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:13.560 covered the news? And you know, I would expect them 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:16.800 to come up with things like, well, this mob run 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:20.560 this story pretending it was news, but really it was 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:24.200 just a pr release from somebody wanting to push a product, 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:29.719 or a cause, or their business. Whatever it was. Anyway, 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:36.720 group think. Yeah, Like I say, I haven't really made 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:39.520 it my life's work to watch media Watch, but it 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:41.440 has changed over the years. And now I have somebody 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:45.000 named Linton Bess, who I'm told was a very successful 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:49.599 print journal but maybe print is his thing. I've watched 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:53.680 Linton squirming away in front of the camera offering his 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:57.200 slanted summation of the events of the week. It's more 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:00.520 like the week as seen by Linton. The kind of 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:03.880 critique that it used to be. It's not criticism how 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:09.320 the news has been covered by the other media, well occasionally, 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:12.120 and I think it's a safety valve. Media Watch has 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.160 been known to have a go at the ABC, but generally, 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:17.880 speaking from what little I've watched it over the years, 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:21.280 it's really there to confirm to the viewer that they've 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:24.080 made the best of all possible choices by watching the ABC. 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:29.640 But anyway, Linton's there and it's really like the week 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:32.240 as Linton sees it. It doesn't seem to be what 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:36.240 it was what it was originally it was known as 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:39.960 this Is when the BBC had it, and the BBC 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:43.520 really used to play up Media Watch. The guy that 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:48.800 hosted it, for example, would go to somebody's office in 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:52.400 the BBC responsible for particular program, take his camera crew, 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:54.920 sit on the desk and say why are you doing this? 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:57.920 People don't like it? But I've never actually seen that 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:02.560 from the ABC. But it was referred to as disgusted 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:07.480 of Tunbridge Wells, which was kind of a generic British 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:11.720 term for a conservative viewer who was always unhappy with 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:17.680 what he was seeing on his screen. Yeah, troubled in 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:25.040 the Middle East, Well, yes, petrol will be more expensive 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:27.239 according to the film review, we can hear that again 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:32.199 speaking of women and the Middle East and contrasting opinions. 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:36.240 I thought it was typical of those of her ilk 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:39.680 that Greta Thunberg refused to watch the video of her 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:43.160 mass attacking the young people at the music festival, because 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:48.760 people like Greta, they just dismiss facts that might contradict 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:54.160 their feelings. I remember years ago watching something on Fox. 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:59.800 Whoopee Goldberg was talking to the then successful host below, 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:07.040 and O'Reilly said to Whoopee, but Whoopy, that's not true. 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:09.440 And Whoopy leaned over and put a hand on Bill's 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:15.800 knee and said, but Bill, it's what I feel. Hm. Anyway, 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:19.040 so great, it's not going to let anything interfere with 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:23.439 her feelings. Closer to home, let me ask you, how 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:26.719 are you treating your companion animals? Now? I asked this 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:31.679 because I was driving by the seaside yesterday and you know, 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.280 just looking at the beach and thinking about the world, 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:38.480 and I saw a man on a skateboard with two 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:42.280 large dogs. There were boxes, I think anyway, So there's 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:45.240 the man with these two big dogs. One was trotting 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:49.840 along beside the skateboard, but the other was riding on 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:52.840 the skateboard with the man. Now, I would like to 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:56.640 think that he alternates the dogs because it would only 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:58.920 be fair. The same dog didn't always get to ride 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:02.800 while the other one had to run. Don't you think 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:08.840 TV panel shows facing extinction? To comment further on this, 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:13.600 media commentator Managing Director of Media Stable, Nick Hays, Morning Neck, 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:14.360 thanks for doing this. 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:15.559 Good morning Mike. 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:16.360 Good to be with you. 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:21.520 Now. Q and A got asked although this is very ABC, 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:23.680 it was actually picking up in the numbers, I believe, 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:28.080 but got asked anyway, And Ten's decided to end the 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:30.760 project and people have been predicting the end of ten 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:34.480 for a very long time. The drum was given the chop. 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:40.400 So the sports panel shows they're going great, but political 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:44.839 discussion panel shows not so much. Why do you think 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:46.480 are they too dull? What is it? 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:50.080 I don't think necessarily it's dull. I think it's mainly 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:54.080 come down to cost cost of putting programs together. Let's 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.200 have a quick look at the project. There's a lot 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:58.880 of paychecks that have to sit on that panel. You know, 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:05.199 anything between four and sometimes five panel members on the project, 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:10.280 and it's not cheap TV to do. When the project 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:12.880 first kicked off, it was almost a spin off off 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:14.520 the Panel Do you remember the Panel Market? 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:14.760 Yes? 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:14.959 I do. 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.920 Yeah, Yeah, that was a ripper of a show that 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:21.400 was a once a week show and it was a 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:26.319 very sort of comedy, different look at news and a 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:28.440 little bit of fun. A lot of show business around 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:32.640 it as well. But when the project kicked off, it 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.640 was a Monday to Friday then went on to Sunday. 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:41.680 It was originally only used and filmed out of Melbourne 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:46.480 now Melbourne and Sydney, and it just became a very 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.160 costly program to put together. There's up to one hundred 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:53.240 staff members that were involved in the project week by week, 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:55.880 and fifty of them, as we know now, are going 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:57.559 to lose their jobs and fifty of them will be 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:02.600 moved around. It is just a costly program to put together. 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:06.280 I tell you what I don't mind. I do seek 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:09.080 it out on Channel ten and that's that show, The 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:11.520 Cheap Seats. Have you seen that? I guess you have. 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:15.079 Yeah, I have. I'm looking forward to hearing or seeing 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:19.400 myself on there one day. No, it's a little bit 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:24.800 of fun, it's a bit's comedy again, but I think 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:27.360 sometimes it might be interesting to you from your listeners. 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:30.720 I think that I've spoken to many people around the 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:33.280 country around the sort of the fall of the panel 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:37.360 shows is that they saw the projectors being in verta 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:41.720 commerce two woke. A lot of them didn't like Wali Dali. 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:45.040 They liked the sort of the former presenters that were there, 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:48.720 the Charlie Pickerings that carried Big Moore's, the Dave Hughes's, 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:54.400 the original format, but they tended to look at the 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:58.160 show as being a little bit dealing with issues that 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:03.560 were probably more firsts. They were probably to do with 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:07.640 the environment. They felt like they were being talked down to, 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.080 and that was one of the problems. I suppose that 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:14.080 a lot of viewers were turning off and the numbers 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.559 were certainly dwindling. In the heyday of the project, it 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:19.360 was hitting one point one one point two million people, 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:20.960 but it was well below that. 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:26.080 Talking about what you get and the wokeness, you would 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:29.280 be aware of the fact that Greg Guttfeld, with his 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:33.920 show on Fox in the US, is out rating the 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:39.199 other high profile late night talk shows. He's got more 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.240 viewers than them put together as far as I know, 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:45.640 but he's certainly outrating them all, but they're all pretty woke. 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:50.400 They're the old style American format, which I'm not saying 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:54.800 is a bad thing, but the stuff that Gutfeld puts 0:13:54.840 --> 0:14:00.960 to air, I couldn't see executives here allowing that, could you. 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:02.760 No, definitely not. 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:06.200 I think, look, there is a term. I know. We 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.560 use woke a little bit, we use right wing, we 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:14.040 use conservative media quite a lot. I think the Australian 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:17.440 media can't really handle that kind of thing. If it's 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:20.880 doing very well, it's because it's appealing to a particular audience, 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:23.720 an audience that either feels it hasn't been heard before, 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:27.280 or is looking for an audience that he wants to 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:29.600 know almost you know, that rubber necking. When they see 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:33.000 an accident, they just can't take their eyes off it. 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:36.280 It's that kind of attraction that they just want to go, 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:39.040 what are they going to say next? Yes, shock jock, 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:40.720 you know. So the depth of the shock jock in 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.960 radio happens, and I think that Australian media doesn't really 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.880 cope well with too much shock. There's not a lot 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:49.320 of substance there and at the end of the day, 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.320 we just want to be educated, informed, or at least 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:56.960 given some views to help us form our own opinions. 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.000 And that's the beauty I think of Australian media is 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:01.440 that we do provide a lot of that. People have 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:06.120 got choice as where to go. In America it's a 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.160 complete different game, and particularly with the press that's sitting 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:14.040 over there and encouraging a different format. He's encouraging different views. 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:18.760 Yes, mind you, it does depend a lot on the host. 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:23.560 I think I remember going to see Johnny Carson live 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:28.920 way back, and he just understood the medium so well. 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.400 In fact, the night I went to see him live, 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.280 I thought I've come on a quiet night. But when 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:36.680 I went back to the motel, because you know, it 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:40.320 was recorded for live, as they say in America, But 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:43.440 when I went back to the motel, it was exactly right. 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:48.320 Although Johnny got very cross with a guest. A guest 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:51.240 was pushing something political Johnny didn't want to know about, 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:55.080 and you could see was getting cross And so after 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:59.600 the show had finished ed, McMahon came out and said, oh, 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:01.800 can we we ask you to pretend that the show's 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:06.600 starting again. So they started again, and when the show 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:09.640 finally went to it did not include the guest that 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:11.640 was doing what Johnny thought was inappropriate. 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:15.800 Yeah, and look, you know we've got We've got a 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.240 very broad range of media here in Australia, and I 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:22.440 think a lot of the criticism, particularly around ABC Q 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:25.560 and A, was coming from Sky News or coming from 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.440 Sky as we refer to it after Dark, a very 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:34.000 conservative approach to media. They would have a crack and 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:38.120 the ABC's Media Watch would very much be looking at 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:41.760 what's going on at the Sky News, having little DIBs 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:44.760 at each other and questioning their values. I suppose their 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:48.200 bias if you like. We have that. We have that 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:50.920 in Australia and the beauty of it I love about 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:53.120 it is the fact that we can make decisions and 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:56.440 choices as to who we consume. I get worried, Mike 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:59.160 when I hear just someone just listening to one form 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:02.520 of media or or not really taking in all that 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:06.000 is around. It just helps them shape fame and their 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:08.720 opinion and position a little bit better. And that's the 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.280 scary thing with social media, Mike, is the fact that 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:14.000 a lot of people get into their silos and just 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.440 think and hear and think that this is the one 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:19.840 and only true message when there's just so much out 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:20.920 there well. 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.040 Over the years, I have advised my listeners to get 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:27.840 their information from a variety of sources. I don't know 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:31.520 whether my employers have appreciated me doing or not well. 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.920 No, you just think with Mike Jeffreys, everyone, you're doing 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:37.479 well listening to mine, but you know in the morning 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:41.160 they'll be listening across the other two GB programs and 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:45.000 across the other spectrums of media that are out there 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:49.480 and just getting good sound information to be able to 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:52.240 make your own choice and decision, because that's what we want. 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:54.680 We don't want to be dictated to or told how 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:57.920 to think or what to do. We just want enough 0:17:57.960 --> 0:17:59.920 information to be able to make our own decisions. 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:05.119 Yes, I actually wrote that as a positioning statement for 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:08.960 a radio station when I was the PD. I said, 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:11.439 we tell you what's going on, not what to think. 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.600 Yeah, I love that. I used to work for a 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:18.080 media monitoring company and we used to give you news 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:21.760 you need, not necessarily news you want. And I think 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:24.240 too much of us at the moment are just seeking out, 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.879 particularly on social media, and the younger folk that are 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:30.280 running around, they're just getting the news they want and 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:31.960 not necessarily the news they need. 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:36.240 What's reaffirming their views. By the way, here's a question 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:39.280 without notice for you. But you took us down that path. 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:42.800 You're on a media watch. I don't normally watch media Watch, 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:46.000 but I've watched it the last two or three weeks 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:49.399 and it doesn't look like media Watch to me. It 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:54.040 looks like Linton Besser is giving you a digest of 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.280 what he thought was the news during the week. 0:18:57.000 --> 0:19:02.040 Yeah, Linton, since taking over watch it religiously make It's 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:05.760 part of what I do. But it has taken on 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:11.520 and it's almost getting a little bit too even the 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:17.680 bias level. I suppose that he focuses on the commercial networks. 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:21.480 He's really going hammer and tongue on that. I've got 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:24.359 to say, Linton, I know he'll be listening because they 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:27.520 listen to everything. Yeah, I'm not a fan of the 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:29.800 show at the moment, but I think he's also just 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:32.760 trying to find his feet. There's a long track record 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:35.199 of media Watch that's been on and I think the 0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:38.880 program itself does hold a lot of media to account. 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:41.600 In fact, many in the media will say you've never 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:43.680 been in the media unless you've been on Media Watch 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:49.960 or been questioned. But look, I think they do a 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:53.520 good job. Just a lot of media sometimes don't want 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:55.840 to be how to account, and I think we've got 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:57.760 to hold everyone to account. And that's the beauty of 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:04.000 media that we are regulated, we are looked at and look, 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:07.520 that's why I'll always get my news from mainstream media 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:11.520 as opposed to social media, because I know what I'm getting. 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:14.720 I don't know what I'm getting on the social media site. 0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:17.320 You're right about Media Watch. It's changed a lot over 0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:19.600 the years, and may I say it's come a long 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:25.240 way from Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells that was its original 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:27.440 BBC name. Did you know that? 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:28.080 No? 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:31.240 I did not, And I look at you know, I 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:33.879 always laugh at the people that sort of well, I 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:37.560 don't always laugh, but I sometimes question why people are 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:39.760 so upset when they see themselves on there, and how 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:42.160 they react and respond to it. I mean even I've 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:45.879 had a text message from Linton regarding a particular segment 0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:49.080 that was on. You know, you deal and you work 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:51.240 with it, But I also say, if we're not rocking 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:54.080 the boat, if we're not rattling the trees a little bit, 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:56.040 are we really doing our jobs anyway? 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:59.080 Hey, I'm with you on that, Yes, yeah. 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:01.280 So I think it's sometimes it's a little bit of 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:04.160 a badge of honor being appearing on Media Watch. It's 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:06.040 how you work and deal with them and how you 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:08.919 respond to it is a real reflection of the brand. 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:11.480 Nick, appreciate your time and comments. Thank you for coming 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:15.360 on the program. Thanks Mine, Nick Hay's media commentator, managing 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:18.840 director of Media Stable. Good morning, welcome along if you 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:22.160 just joined us. A couple of comments about Greta here. 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:27.080 Brad from Lynnfield says, Mike, I have very simple and 0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:30.840 I suspect rhetorical question about the infamous Greta Thunberg. Has 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:34.520 she ever had a job? Perhaps it's time to seek one? 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:38.840 Is that like in the TV commercial? Seek just to 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:42.400 thought to the dell Ternes. Did they have a song, 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:43.879 get a job and get a job? We get it. 0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:48.400 I think they did. I guess that's what you're referring to. Brad. Look, 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:51.159 as far as I know, the ladies never had a 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:54.920 job in the sense that we understand one. She's got 0:21:54.960 --> 0:22:00.560 an honorary degree for her work about climate change and 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:08.000 you know activism. She gets paid to turn up and 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:11.639 give talks. I suspect not as much lately as maybe 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:18.680 once and that's about it for Greta is coming from Jackie, 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:22.640 who says, good morning Mike. It's my opinion that even 0:22:22.640 --> 0:22:26.360 if that terrible ignorant girl we're talking about, Greta refused 0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:28.800 to watch the video, they should have secured the door 0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:35.560 and turned it on. Yes, they could. They could have 0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:38.800 done it like in that movie what's the movie where 0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:44.359 Alex and his drewgies? Where's that movie? Dale? You know, 0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:50.160 Alex and the drugiz and all that clockwork orange. That's right, 0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:53.720 And remember they pinned his eyelids open and made him 0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:59.639 watch something. They should have done that. But to go 0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:02.200 back to Jackie said, I did say the terrible screams 0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:04.480 and the obvious sounds of glee from the perpetrators would 0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:07.919 have been dreadful to have heard. Fond regards Jackie. But 0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:11.320 you know, like I say, Greta wouldn't watch, doesn't want 0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:18.399 anything that interferes with her feelings. Let me go to 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:23.600 Helen from Kabulcher. Good morning, Helen, Hi, how are you going? Oh? Well, 0:23:23.640 --> 0:23:25.679 thank you? I saw you sent me a long email. 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:26.560 Thank you for that. 0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:32.200 And you know it's funny talking about Duckfield. I don't 0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:35.119 really watch it all that much. But sometimes I go 0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:40.240 from Jesse Walters to that. And the other night when 0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:46.760 they were talking about Greta, it was hilarious. They were 0:23:46.800 --> 0:23:49.800 all very quick witted and I didn't. 0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:52.040 See that one. It'll still be there somewhere. I must 0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:52.400 have a look. 0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:54.560 Yeah, it was funny. 0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:56.959 But a lot of the time the Americans have a 0:23:56.960 --> 0:23:58.960 different sense of humor to what we do. 0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:02.920 They do and it's. 0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:05.359 And I can sit there and everybody's laughing, and I'm 0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:09.800 just think, what are you laughing at? But I like 0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:12.080 the English comedies better. 0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:15.480 Yes, they have a different approach, don't they. You know, 0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:19.000 I think about it. I wanted to do something on humor, 0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:22.440 but at this stage I haven't got a volunteer comedian 0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:24.359 to discuss it with me. But I must have another 0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:27.600 go at that. But it seems to me my summation 0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:31.840 of the difference is that the Yank humor is always 0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:37.000 about is all about awkward, creating an awkward situation. You 0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:40.320 watch Seinfeld, you watch Phrasier, even some of the more 0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:44.639 recent ones. It's about creating putting somebody in an awkward situation, 0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:50.520 Whereas the British have a different approach. Exactly how you 0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:53.000 summoned up on a word. I'm looking for one at 0:24:53.040 --> 0:24:54.240 the moment, but anyway, they're different. 0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:55.960 You're right, that's Rod. 0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:58.600 And do you remember going I'm going back, but I'm 0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:04.160 sure you remember in the early Love with TV they 0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:08.560 had that show Love Thy Neighbor, Yes, and things like that. Yeah, 0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:12.000 he'd say Blackie's next door, and then the black fellow 0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:13.879 would go into his wife and say, I've just spoken 0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:18.679 to Whitey. Yes, you know, but no one was offended. 0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:24.720 Well, no, we had much broader interpretations of what was 0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:28.720 allowed as humor, and I think that particularly came from 0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:32.760 the British. I've always thought Australia produces really good cartoonists 0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:35.320 and my theory on that, and I do have a 0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:37.119 theory on everything in the known world, of course, but 0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:42.800 my theory on why we produce such good cartoonists. We 0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:45.560 don't have the absolute freedom of speech guaranteed the way 0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:48.640 the Americans do, so when we want to make a point, 0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:51.399 we make it a bit sideway. It's a bit oblique. 0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:53.479 And the cartoonists here I think are very good at 0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:54.320 that and better for it. 0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:56.800 Yes, yes they are. 0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:59.400 But I just think it's a shame even that one 0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:02.960 with are you being served? And he'd say, are you 0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:07.679 being served? And you know, so just little things like 0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:11.960 the commentary in it and things like that and having 0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:15.480 a sling off at everybody. Yes, you know, we just 0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:19.040 don't seem to be able to create that anymore, or 0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:20.840 we're not allowed to do it anymore. 0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:25.520 Well supposedly because somebody somewhere might be offended, but my 0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:27.800 feeling is if they're going to be offended, don't watch. 0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:36.639 Well, that's right, And I think honestly everybody remembers forty Towers, Yes, 0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:40.120 with the gym, don't mention the war. Yes, I mean 0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:44.280 that was hilarious. I mean it was always it was 0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:46.520 just such a fantastic show and it doesn't know how 0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:48.240 many times to see it. It's funny. 0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:52.920 I was watching some episodes of Dad's Army and they 0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:56.200 were making jokes, you know, the English were making jokes 0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:58.880 about the Germans, and the Germans were making jokes about 0:26:58.920 --> 0:26:59.440 the English. 0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:05.239 Yeah, yes, that's right, and nobody's offended, and it's and 0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:07.720 it is just funny, you know, And. 0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:09.520 Anyway, it doesn't matter. 0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:11.959 You could go on forever. But it's just a shame. 0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:16.320 And I think when you were talking to Nick about 0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:22.560 the panels and about politics. It is all rather boring 0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:25.359 because they're all woke and they don't want to have 0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:26.240 a debate. 0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:29.200 That's right. I think that's what a lot of people think. 0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:32.800 Yeah, all right, all right, thank you. 0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:34.359 Thank you, Bye bye. 0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:39.280 Jack has called in from Campbelltown. Good morning Jack, Yah. 0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:42.439 Yeah, good morning, good morning. Make you're talking about the 0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:46.600 comedy things. Remember they used to have these comedy shows 0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:50.440 where where the where the audience was laughing or as 0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:52.800 of course, you know that the people who were listening 0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:55.080 to the shoulder and you went for laugh Do you 0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:55.679 remember that? 0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:59.320 Well in a way, But since you mentioned that, do 0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:02.760 you ever watch that show on the ABC? Would I 0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:04.720 lie to you? 0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:05.600 No, I don't want to know. 0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:10.760 And there's another one called Q and I and I 0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:15.600 quite enjoy them, but the canned laughter is so loud 0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:20.760 it's annoying. Seriously, they're totally about you and I look. 0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:25.000 I mean the ABC is the ABC is paid by 0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:28.119 the government and therefore, you know, whatever they bring, you know, 0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:31.560 it has to be sort of whatever government is in 0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:35.159 power either has to stick the line. Okay. Now, you 0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:39.320 station is a commercial station, so you also have to observe, 0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:42.520 you know, what your bosses want you to talk about, 0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:43.000 isn't it. 0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:47.240 Well, I've I got to say for management here, they 0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:51.120 have never told me what to say. I actually uh 0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:54.440 went to uh must have been a provost meeting some 0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:56.840 months ago. People they're saying, oh, yes, and they tell 0:28:56.880 --> 0:29:03.080 you what to say. Well, no, they don't. Maybe the 0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:07.760 fact that they know that might be a waste of time. 0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:09.880 I don't know. I don't don't want to be, you know, 0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:14.200 two at the provocative unnecessarily. But the fact of the 0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:17.600 matter is management here have never told me what to say. 0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:20.520 And I don't recall management telling me what to say. 0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:23.400 But I have had some management over the years who 0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:25.800 were very unhappy with things that I have said. 0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:29.640 Yeah, well, well you're pretty okay, Mike. You are right 0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:32.840 now talking about that Greta girl. You know, if she doesn't, 0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:35.400 as you said before, you know, if she doesn't want 0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:37.360 to watch it, you know, don't watch it. I mean, 0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:39.720 how dare you say it is one of fostic people 0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:43.200 to watch some stuff, you know, and before they release them. 0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:46.080 But I want to say about the I Alis, really 0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:49.840 they can't hide behind the Holocaust much anymore the way 0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:50.840 that I carry on. 0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:53.440 They hide behind what cars? What cars? 0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:58.520 The holocausts? They cannot really hide behind what happened to 0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:00.240 them is either way they carry on. 0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:02.520 Now how the Holocaust? All right? 0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yes, I can't use that no more much. 0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:07.080 You know, you don't think. 0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:13.040 The way the carry on mite. Ye have to pay 0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:15.160 for all that. We gotta pay more, petroal, We gotta 0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:18.320 pay this, We gotta pay that. We are always the losers. 0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:22.160 The consumer are the losers. While he's blood Jess who 0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:26.160 run the countries. I travel around and visit, visiting each 0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:27.520 other and having fun. 0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:29.880 They're special, They're special people. 0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:34.240 Okay, you take care, Okay. 0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:41.080 See Jack. Bye. Mick from Winston Hills says, good morning, Assassin. 0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:44.880 Gutfield on Fox News is my favorite show. Really pokes 0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:49.960 fun at the left mercilessly. Also, yeah, I'm watch it 0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:55.880 in batches every now and again, And I don't watch 0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:59.960 any of the other late night talk shows. Are used 0:30:59.960 --> 0:31:05.880 to watch what his name not a little more anyway, 0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:10.880 you know what I mean? And who else? Way back 0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:16.320 in the day, I used to watch Carson. But yes, 0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.640 it'll come to me on the way home in the car. Anyway, 0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:23.920 back to what mix, says Gutfeld on Fox News. My 0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:27.120 favorite show really pokes fun at the left mercilessly. I 0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:30.120 saw last week an album was released by an artist. 0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:33.920 The album is called half Man, Half Biscuit. This is surely, 0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:37.880 says Mick, a pseudonym of young Dale Sindon. When he 0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:40.160 eats a packet of orange creams, he becomes half man, 0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:43.320 half biscuit. Well, I'll put it to him later. Make 0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:46.080 you might be onto something. Albert's called in from Hurstville. 0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:48.800 Good morning, Albert, Hi, Mike, how are you. 0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:49.800 I'm well, thank you. 0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:57.240 That's good to hear. The gunman that dressed up as 0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:07.680 a police officer that shot the Democrat senators, the media 0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:11.080 was very quick to point out that that government was 0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:18.920 a voted Republican. But what I find very strange about 0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:22.960 the whole thing was that that government had shot a 0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:32.720 Democrat senator who sided with the Trump administration in not 0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:39.440 giving the illegals medicaid, which is like our version of medicare. 0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:46.240 So but given that fact, then you would one would 0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:51.280 conclude that that government was a Democrat. Now they also 0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:54.000 said that. The media also said the same thing about 0:32:54.040 --> 0:33:01.520 the young young person who attempted to assassinate Trump when 0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:05.640 he was on the roof. They said that he was 0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:13.680 a Republican voter, yet his parents were staunch Democrats, and 0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:18.960 there's also some they're also linking him with black Rock, 0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:25.440 et cetera. Well, anyway, so what I'm saying is the 0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:33.400 media are quick to classify these nut jobs as Republican 0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:38.280 when in fact they are Democrat activists or obviously something 0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:39.040 wrong with them. 0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:43.120 That murdering you're talking about. Didn't he get a job 0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:45.560 from one of the Democrats. 0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:51.640 I believe it was Tim Walls. He was, He had 0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:56.280 his contract. I heard from a Los Angeles radio that 0:33:56.440 --> 0:34:01.800 his contract was renewed. I don't know in what capacity, 0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:08.279 but he was also closely Tim Waltz knew him and 0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:10.640 as we all know, or some of us might know 0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:16.200 in Australia that Tim Walls was the running mate for 0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:20.960 Kamala Harris in the last American presidential election. 0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:22.839 Didn't they call him a tampon tin. 0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:26.080 Yes, that's right, tampon. 0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:30.760 Tin because he insisted on having tampons in the boys toilet. Yeah. 0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:38.720 Well, he's the alpha male of the Democrats in a 0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:41.080 you know what I mean, in a nigga in an 0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:51.120 opposite way. But you know what's happening happening in America 0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:57.200 is it sounds like it sounds like what Antifa and 0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:02.720 BLM did during the first presidential term. 0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:05.960 Yes, it is. You're right, that's that's what it is. 0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:10.440 And you've only got to look at I notice Murrow 0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:15.279 here pointed out the distribution of the helmets and face 0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:19.239 masks to the rioters, and Dale was telling me, you 0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:21.839 read about somebody who's offered one hundred and fifty bucks 0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:25.719 a day to join in the riots. But I could 0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:28.680 top that because somebody on x said he was offered 0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:32.000 two hundred dollars a day to join in the riots. 0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:35.920 So it seems like it's funded and organized. 0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:42.640 Yes, well, well, what's interesting is independent news sources are 0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:46.680 saying that the riots in not talking. I don't know 0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:50.320 about other states of America. Obviously there's one going in Chicago, 0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:53.680 when maybe a few other cities, but the one in 0:35:54.440 --> 0:36:00.000 Los Angeles that's been funded by the public, the general 0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:05.800 public via the Democrats. So the Democrats themselves are funding 0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:12.719 the protests in Los Angeles. And that's another thing. One 0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:18.280 of the talk back announcers on Los Angeles radio said, well, 0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:23.040 it's from the station being KFI six point forty. 0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:23.720 Yeah. 0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:23.920 OK. 0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:27.759 And the guy who does the afternoon shift is the 0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:29.800 son of Tim Conway Junior. 0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:33.200 But you know, I was reading The Hill. I don't 0:36:33.200 --> 0:36:36.279 know if you read that. It's a Washington publication. It's 0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:39.040 a little bit left leaning, but it's more sane than most. 0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:42.080 And they have made the point, as have others. The 0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:46.440 Democrats have to be very careful about supporting the riots 0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:50.120 because and other people have made this observation. But I 0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:53.680 mentioned The Hill in particular because I think they're fairly well, 0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:56.399 almost down the middle of the road. But this could 0:36:56.440 --> 0:37:00.400 all work out very well for Trump because the easy 0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:03.520 call to make is, well, look at California. What a mess. 0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:07.160 That's what you get with the Democrat run state. And 0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:11.920 even Democrats are uneasy about this writing in the street. 0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:14.399 They don't necessarily want to see that, and they don't 0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:17.400 want to be seen necessarily to be supporting it. So 0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:21.879 people in public positions representing the Democratic Party have got 0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:25.560 a walk a fairly narrow path. Really well. 0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:28.040 I think that's correct, and I think it won't be 0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:36.480 too much longer before the Democrats are implicated directly. In fact, 0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:40.960 I've heard quite a few smart people who should know 0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:46.399 better that they're saying that all these protests have got 0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:49.560 nothing to do with what you think it's got to 0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:56.719 do with, which is they protesting against the eviction of 0:37:56.840 --> 0:38:00.960 the illegals who are committing crimes in America. They're saying 0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:03.719 that that's got nothing to do with that. It's what 0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:08.120 it's God is to do. Is that the outreach or 0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:13.120 the reaching of the federal government by implementing the army, 0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:17.319 allowing them for the public to get used to, and 0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:21.200 providing an excuse to the federal government to introduce the 0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:24.399 army into the state. And I thought to myself, wait 0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:27.839 a minute, the answer is there right in front of you. 0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:33.000 And yet you're overthinking the situation and concluding these are 0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:37.439 smart people. Well obviously not. But they're saying, no, it's 0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:42.160 not that. It's the opposite, that it's the government prepping 0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:47.239 the people to allow them to get used to, or 0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:50.920 using an excuse to introduce the military. 0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:53.640 Oh yeah, yeah, this is the this is the no 0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:59.400 Kings thing, this is the dictator idea. Yes, interesting, Albert 0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:02.880 got to go, but thank you for calling. Thank you, Mike, Okay, 0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:06.200 we will have the news for you shortly. And Philip, 0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:09.840 thank you. Yes, that's who I was trying to think of. Letterman. 0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:14.560 Letterman was as somebody said to me once you got 0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:17.920 to watch Letterman in case it's a really good night. 0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:21.360 Some nights he was better than others, but he he 0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:25.560 did have a quality about his programs. Wayne from Fairfield 0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:30.560 says high Mike and anagram for Greta Thunberg is green 0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:38.680 brat thug, says Wayne. I suppose, I don't know. She 0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:42.640 had her moment in the spotlight and tried to recapture 0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:47.280 it with the this sailing boat going to the Middle East. 0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:51.200 But as somebody said, worst to kidnap ever, she had 0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:55.160 the pre recorded thing. I've been kidnapped. It really was 0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:59.800 a selfie boat. Yeah. 0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:04.000 Now onto GB for BC and network stations. 0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:09.000 Back to our straight you're overnight, We find Jeffries, good morning. 0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:12.000 I'll go back to the phones in a moment. But look, 0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:15.480 here's the headline from the Canberra Times. Don't get taken 0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:19.480 for a ride by cowboys. And this has to do 0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:23.960 with the solar business. Don't get taken for a ride 0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:29.920 by cowboys. Are they talking about rent seeking billionaires who claim, 0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:34.920 for example, that they can make green hydrogen into a 0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:41.680 commercial proposition. No, no, not so much. Now they're actually 0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:46.040 talking about people who sell batteries, businesses, booming for solar 0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:48.600 companies thanks to the federal government's rebate on the cost 0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:53.200 of installing battery systems, but some established firms have warned 0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:56.799 consumers to be wary of cowboys who are out for 0:40:56.880 --> 0:41:03.120 a quick buck. No, Lee, is that happening, by the way, 0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:07.200 that's uh, that's very Labor Party. Stick with the big guys. 0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:10.880 That's the way they've pushed that as long as I 0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:15.399 can remember, and I remember to way back when they 0:41:15.600 --> 0:41:18.600 the Labor Party, would run ads saying don't deal with 0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:22.200 the backyarders, deal with the big firms, the ones you 0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:26.400 can trust, not huge fans of small business, the Labor Party. 0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:30.759 Chris has called in from Leila and Victoria. Good morning, Chris, 0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:32.839 how are you hi. 0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:34.719 I'm all right, thinks Can I slip one in? 0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:38.600 Well, you usually do, Chris, We're used to it now. 0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:43.200 No. I go through the topics and usually I have 0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:46.560 my main one that I want at the end. But look, 0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:48.520 I'll slip this one and if I can, if I 0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:51.440 take that as a guest, you will talk to your 0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:55.040 guests before and already in regard to the media, I mean, 0:41:55.640 --> 0:41:59.200 where are the critics from the media. There are very few. 0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:02.920 Are you to what the ABC. I was a child 0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:08.279 the ABC News. Now I don't. They've lost me and 0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:11.200 there's there's something wrong with the ABC needs to be 0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:17.400 addressed and it's not being addressed. I don't think anyone's 0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:19.640 game enough to get in and do what needs to 0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:20.480 be done. 0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:23.839 And you're not being very specific there, Chris, what's your 0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:25.280 equivalent with the ABC? 0:42:27.560 --> 0:42:30.760 It's biased. I think that the ABC and the Labor 0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:32.240 government are a perfect. 0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:36.799 Match there and they aren't as old Jared Henderson says 0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:40.600 in The Australian. If they attack the government is from 0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:44.160 a leftish point of view. It always comes Their attack 0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:46.319 always comes from a leftish point of view. That's the 0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:47.920 way he sees it, and a lot of people do 0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:53.000 see them as being very biased. I was watching the 0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:55.919 other day. First of all, we had Matt Canavan being 0:42:55.960 --> 0:43:01.000 interviewed and then Nick McKim. Suffice to say Canavan got 0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:06.359 more interruptions than Nick McKim, and McKim is so far 0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:10.480 out there on the left. Although it's worth noting that 0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:14.200 McKim dodged around the question of whether or not the 0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:22.760 Greens would support making unrealized profits taxable. He was wary 0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:25.600 of that one, which I thought was interesting. But anyway, 0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:31.319 apart from that, it was pure lefty unicorns and rainbows. 0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:34.520 Yeah, it sounds like you and I and I wouldn't 0:43:34.560 --> 0:43:37.239 have any time at all over that. But look what 0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:40.520 I wanted to talk about was Albowy comments about good 0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:43.120 friends with the US. Oh yeah, well I think he's 0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:46.680 a great friend with China. The other one is our 0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:50.760 premier down here, Jacinta Allen. She went from a shelf 0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:54.719 stacker a short time there with Carl's don't worked for 0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:59.880 a politician, got it elected and then becoming a premier. 0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:04.040 She's got no real work or maybe life experience. 0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:06.560 Well, you said she was a shelf stacker, so she 0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:09.880 didn't go straight from high school to UNI and interning 0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:13.240 in a politician's office and then straight into the politician's office. 0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:17.080 At least she, you say, did have a job she stacking. 0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:21.319 Yeah, it was part time. Elbow had had a couple 0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:23.440 of years at the common well bankers that tellers, so 0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:24.920 you know, there's a bit a bit. 0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:28.720 So they have had real work, dealing with real people 0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:32.640 and real jobs at the grassroots. Yeah, but not much 0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:33.120 of it, you. 0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:37.200 Say, no, exactly, not enough of it actually, But look 0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:42.080 to me, they can't now make decisions, and I think 0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:45.279 that's probably why Victoria's spent nearly a billion dollars. The 0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:48.840 same can be said of Daniel and And who's on advice 0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:54.359 and consultancy. It's a ridiculous amount of money. I mean, 0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:55.720 can they do anything. 0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:56.120 No. 0:44:57.000 --> 0:44:59.080 Look, the other thing that I wanted to talk about 0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:02.319 is Daniel. He has been retired, He's been shown from 0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:05.560 a golf course several and one wont blame them for 0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:08.800 doing that. Let's payback for the COVID. But he's almost 0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:11.400 on as much as he was getting before when he 0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:16.480 was working. Plus the advantagure is now that he's got 0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:21.360 his own consultancy businesses, he can do what a pension 0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:23.640 I can't. He can go earn as much money as 0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:27.520 he likes outside of politics, and he won't lose any 0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:33.439 of his entirement. So why are we so tough on retirees? 0:45:33.480 --> 0:45:34.920 You want to go back and earn a bit more 0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:36.640 money for whatever reason, it doesn't matter. 0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:39.760 I think that's a good point, by the way, Chris, 0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:42.080 I don't know if you recall, I did have somebody 0:45:42.120 --> 0:45:45.200 on the program a while back making a good case 0:45:45.760 --> 0:45:50.640 for why retirees should get the pension but be allowed 0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:52.640 to work. A lot of people don't agree with it, 0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:56.040 but the main trust of his argument, as I recall, 0:45:56.560 --> 0:46:01.239 is that we're wasting a lot of experience. They're experienced 0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:06.080 people who could be working. I think in New Zealand 0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:09.160 it might have been the same conversation. It was said 0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:13.160 that in New Zealand you automatically get a pension when 0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:16.400 you retire, and then nobody cares whether you do some 0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:19.440 work or not. You're just entitled to it for what 0:46:19.480 --> 0:46:21.480 the you know, you've paid in taxes over the years. 0:46:21.480 --> 0:46:24.200 That's the thing. I think some of the European countries 0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:27.640 do the same thing. So that's an interesting point. I 0:46:27.640 --> 0:46:30.200 think it's worth one worth discussing. 0:46:32.840 --> 0:46:37.560 Michael wait I weigh that you could people Actually, they'll 0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:39.840 stay out of the hospital, they'll be healthy. The longer 0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:43.000 I used to get a delivery from a guy and 0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:44.919 he would come up to the door. I mean, these 0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:48.359 are the sort of jobs that retirees can do and 0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:51.560 can fit. So, you know, look at the health benefits 0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:56.319 they're going to save on medical, medical care and medical expenses. 0:46:57.280 --> 0:46:59.640 So at the end of the day, balanced out about 0:46:59.840 --> 0:47:02.480 against the tax that they would be paying. And there 0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:07.319 are benefits if you go that way. So maybe guess 0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:12.359 let people work after retirement age. They've worked, they've paid 0:47:12.400 --> 0:47:16.480 their taxes, so why are they discriminated politicians. 0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:18.359 Are Look, I think it's a discussion worth having. You're 0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:21.520 never going to get it from this government. This government, 0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:25.960 their philosophy is they want everybody dependent on them so 0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:30.080 that they just get continually re elected. That's how they think. 0:47:30.520 --> 0:47:33.480 I can't see them ever supporting what you're saying, but 0:47:34.360 --> 0:47:37.279 I do think it's something worth discussing anyway, Chris, thank 0:47:37.280 --> 0:47:37.800 you for calling. 0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:39.200 Thank you. 0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:45.360 Keith from Ballarat has called in. Greg Keith, good morning, 0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:47.879 good morning, A quick one. 0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:52.240 Belgium is an ideal place for a retired people working, 0:47:52.719 --> 0:47:55.680 especially in the tourist industry and that type of thing. 0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:58.399 They're allowed to work. It doesn't matter what they've done 0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:02.080 in their lives, accountants or anything. But once they retire 0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:07.040 they can work in like the tourist industry, making beds, 0:48:07.120 --> 0:48:10.320 doing gardens and all that kind of thing and still. 0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:12.440 Get whatever retirement benefits from the government. 0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:15.120 Yeah yeah, and they own an extra that's an extra 0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:19.280 because jobs that people don't want to do. So example, 0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:22.240 But I want to talk about the problem in America 0:48:22.320 --> 0:48:25.960 a lot like these problems don't just start yesterday. Like 0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:30.960 America was built on slavery, like slaves for four hundred years, 0:48:31.000 --> 0:48:35.800 and if you were well looked at it over the years, 0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:39.279 and the kidnapping of the slaves, the way they were 0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:43.359 transported in the ships, packed in like sardines, the way 0:48:43.400 --> 0:48:45.759 they were thrown overboard, if there was any danger of 0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:51.160 anyone catching them. They're doing your legal business. And that's 0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:54.640 the shocking thing to see. But when they'd finished with similar, 0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:57.319 they just cut them loose. They said, oh, well you're 0:48:57.320 --> 0:49:00.880 free now. There was no assimilation or no anything. Now 0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:06.000 they've multiplied and multiplied. Now there's a huge problem. What 0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:11.480 does America do with the black problem they've made for themselves? 0:49:12.320 --> 0:49:15.160 Well, are you asking me or are you being rhetorical? 0:49:15.600 --> 0:49:19.319 Well, i'm you know, they're never allowed to assimilate. And 0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:21.719 then from adeen. 0:49:21.440 --> 0:49:25.640 Sixty you still have you still think that the positions 0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:31.440 therein now they've never successfully assimilated into the society. Do 0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:33.960 you see them still being discriminated against? 0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:37.359 Well, from nteen sixty five to nineteen sixty five they 0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:40.959 had the Jim Crow Laws, which you know was parth 0:49:41.000 --> 0:49:42.440 height of the worst coin. 0:49:42.920 --> 0:49:47.399 And I was talking about this at dinner a while ago, 0:49:47.440 --> 0:49:50.400 and there's guy there at the table who was very 0:49:50.440 --> 0:49:56.280 surprised that the Klan was supported by the Democrats because 0:49:56.440 --> 0:49:58.920 it was the Southern Democrats and all of that. But anyway, 0:49:58.920 --> 0:50:03.760 the Democrats have changed the tune as we know. But 0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:08.200 as far as the situation with the what do we 0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:11.640 say now African Americans, even though they're not born in Africa. 0:50:11.920 --> 0:50:15.360 You know, it used to be mandatory to say blacks 0:50:15.400 --> 0:50:17.640 at one stage, but I think we've got out of 0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:22.600 that era. But anyway, colors, you can't say colors anymore. 0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:26.400 So the people of African American descent, a lot of 0:50:26.440 --> 0:50:28.120 them have done pretty. 0:50:27.840 --> 0:50:31.600 Well, maybe a lot of them, but that lot would 0:50:31.600 --> 0:50:34.000 be a small percentage because when you consider there was 0:50:34.000 --> 0:50:37.240 probably five and four or five million maybe more slaves 0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:40.520 brought in and they've multiplied over the naturally they're multiplied 0:50:40.520 --> 0:50:43.359 to bad families. They've survived, they lived well. Then they 0:50:43.400 --> 0:50:47.080 show people that have done well, of course, which would 0:50:47.080 --> 0:50:50.200 do well, but a lot of them have still trated badly. 0:50:50.239 --> 0:50:53.920 But then I want to speak also about mister Trump 0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:58.320 and the problem down on the border with the Mexicans 0:50:58.360 --> 0:51:03.800 or the illegal laborers. Yeah, in nineteen forty five, after 0:51:03.840 --> 0:51:06.880 the war, they encourage them to come in and do 0:51:07.000 --> 0:51:11.000 the work on the farms and all that type of thing, 0:51:11.080 --> 0:51:14.920 and in the hotels no one else would do because 0:51:15.200 --> 0:51:18.600 the juries were all going to universities and technical schools 0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:23.120 and upgrading their skills. And now they're stuck. And a 0:51:23.160 --> 0:51:26.279 lot of those people like they've been doing it for 0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:28.920 eighty years. A lot of them are second and third generation, 0:51:29.760 --> 0:51:32.880 and they just can't say, well, we don't want you anymore. 0:51:32.960 --> 0:51:33.480 Go back. 0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:37.360 But if you're not legal, if you're not legal, you know, 0:51:37.440 --> 0:51:40.560 you say they've been there for several generations. Well, we 0:51:41.080 --> 0:51:43.000 presume their citizens, then, don't we. 0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:46.399 No, Well, if their children are born there and their 0:51:46.520 --> 0:51:47.479 grandchildren are. 0:51:47.400 --> 0:51:50.040 Born there, Yeah, well I'm saying their citizens, aren't they. 0:51:50.520 --> 0:51:51.480 Where do we stand. 0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:55.400 Back, Well, they're sending the ones they're sending. All the 0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:59.080 argument is they're sending the people back who came in 0:51:59.239 --> 0:52:04.360 without getting proper accreditation. But to go to your argument, 0:52:04.440 --> 0:52:07.480 it was said years ago that the American housewife wouldn't 0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:10.640 buy orange juice if it weren't for the illegals working 0:52:10.640 --> 0:52:11.560 for slave wages. 0:52:12.600 --> 0:52:16.280 That's right. Now someone has told mister Trump's the president's 0:52:16.280 --> 0:52:18.920 coat and said, excuse me, Like, we've got a lot 0:52:18.960 --> 0:52:22.319 of hotels and that they maintained in America, and we 0:52:22.400 --> 0:52:27.120 need these workers, well, the workers that make the beds 0:52:27.160 --> 0:52:30.440 and work in the kitchens and do the gardens and 0:52:30.520 --> 0:52:33.399 that kind of thing. And the farmers have said, well, 0:52:33.400 --> 0:52:36.120 we need them to work in the vineyards and the 0:52:36.239 --> 0:52:39.880 orchards and the market gardens. So what do you do 0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:42.839 to us. You're ruining our economy. 0:52:43.320 --> 0:52:48.640 I was actually discussing this with a G. Gankowski who 0:52:48.840 --> 0:52:51.319 comes on the program fairly regularly. As it turns out, 0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:56.400 he's an American journalist and commentator over there, and making 0:52:56.440 --> 0:52:59.759 the point that the people who benefit, as you point 0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:03.400 out here, are they not the ones that are in 0:53:03.440 --> 0:53:07.360 the spotlight, you know, the people who do benefit from 0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:11.320 paying the very low wages. So there's no doubt that 0:53:11.320 --> 0:53:14.879 that is an issue. But I don't know if it's 0:53:14.880 --> 0:53:16.759 going to stop Trump, do you think so? 0:53:18.560 --> 0:53:22.600 No, he's quite erratic, and like he'll think of an 0:53:22.600 --> 0:53:25.920 idea and do it and then someone the people that's 0:53:25.960 --> 0:53:29.000 affecting close to him and give his coat a little 0:53:29.040 --> 0:53:30.440 token say, you know, they have a bit of a 0:53:30.480 --> 0:53:34.520 rethink here mate. But then before we finish up, well, 0:53:34.760 --> 0:53:39.120 Australia was founded on that there was to be no 0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:43.400 black slaves in Australia. That's why they transported, well my 0:53:43.480 --> 0:53:47.400 early ancestors out as convicts and they transport them the 0:53:47.440 --> 0:53:51.240 same way is that the black slaves were transported in America. 0:53:51.440 --> 0:53:55.360 Where were you transported from or your foe bears. 0:53:56.480 --> 0:54:03.239 Britain and Ireland one hundred and two. They came out 0:54:03.760 --> 0:54:07.879 eighteen one hundred and four. They were a conviction. They 0:54:07.920 --> 0:54:09.560 were seated badly on hulks. 0:54:09.640 --> 0:54:10.960 And by the way, what. 0:54:11.000 --> 0:54:13.520 Did they do to be convicted in the first place? 0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:18.759 Well, you could have stolen a handkerchief. 0:54:18.880 --> 0:54:21.719 No, no, I'm asking what what did your forbears do? 0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:27.920 H one of them stole some clothes, that was the 0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:33.959 female stole some clothes. Another one on that he well 0:54:34.000 --> 0:54:38.000 documented what he did. I think they stole from a 0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:41.600 well to do family and they were put on the 0:54:41.760 --> 0:54:45.600 hulk in a prison hull for two years before they 0:54:45.640 --> 0:54:52.400 were transported to Australia on the Coramandel, the ship to Coromandel. 0:54:52.440 --> 0:54:55.799 That was I'm just curious because I think this, you know, 0:54:55.880 --> 0:54:58.239 stole a handkerchief and got sent out here is a 0:54:58.239 --> 0:54:59.480 bit of a myth. I used to go out with 0:54:59.520 --> 0:55:03.080 a girl who whose four bears came out as convicts, 0:55:03.560 --> 0:55:08.560 and the legend in their family was that they stole 0:55:08.600 --> 0:55:11.279 some clothes. But then it turned out that they were 0:55:11.320 --> 0:55:18.000 stealing clothes by the what sort of transport would they 0:55:18.000 --> 0:55:24.760 be using, you know, to transit draze or whatever they 0:55:24.920 --> 0:55:27.960 used the ant they were stealing them by the truckload. 0:55:28.000 --> 0:55:33.959 Basically, oh that's possible. That that was as possible most 0:55:34.000 --> 0:55:36.480 of them when you think of the times Adien Andrews, 0:55:36.880 --> 0:55:39.600 most of the people were starving, especially the Irish people 0:55:39.600 --> 0:55:40.480 were treated. 0:55:40.200 --> 0:55:43.160 Like, oh, no question, I'm not arguing about that. In fact, 0:55:44.800 --> 0:55:47.239 one half of my lot came from Wexford. But they 0:55:47.239 --> 0:55:49.680 did come out as free settlers, but that was in 0:55:49.719 --> 0:55:56.480 the eighteen forty eighteen forty. One brother stayed here and 0:55:56.680 --> 0:55:57.920 one brother went to America. 0:55:58.960 --> 0:56:01.480 But quite often when they came out as pretty settlers, 0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:05.680 the land owner would pay their fare to America or Australia, 0:56:05.800 --> 0:56:09.239 you know, to not to solve the problem, but to 0:56:09.280 --> 0:56:10.680 send them for a better life. 0:56:10.960 --> 0:56:15.600 Oh well, old man Witty did pretty well. He did 0:56:15.680 --> 0:56:19.040 have arguments with Nate Kelly, but Apart from that, he 0:56:19.120 --> 0:56:21.160 did pretty well well. 0:56:21.200 --> 0:56:26.400 One of the Irish forbears, he had nine thousand acres 0:56:26.400 --> 0:56:28.960 like and that he was a part of the land 0:56:29.040 --> 0:56:35.080 clearance and he managed to buy nine thousand acres in 0:56:35.200 --> 0:56:40.520 southern Ireland. Will my grandmother's mother came out when she 0:56:40.640 --> 0:56:44.360 was fourteen, in probably eighteen sixty and get out of 0:56:44.400 --> 0:56:46.560 the way because if she had to stay there, they 0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:49.239 would have she would have been killed. So she came 0:56:49.280 --> 0:56:52.200 out to Australia as a fourteen year old and she 0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:56.000 was married as soon as she landed. It was arranged marriage. 0:56:56.120 --> 0:57:01.319 So interesting things happened. But this or that's going on now, 0:57:01.520 --> 0:57:05.680 Like that's terrible the way we are now, like and 0:57:05.880 --> 0:57:06.680 especially like. 0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:08.600 Do you mean in this country or are you talking 0:57:08.640 --> 0:57:10.720 about America? 0:57:10.920 --> 0:57:14.040 In America? But in this country. I find it impossible 0:57:14.120 --> 0:57:17.840 to watch sky. I watched Paul Kelly interview the other 0:57:17.960 --> 0:57:21.840 night by Sharry Marx, and then that cut short because 0:57:21.880 --> 0:57:26.040 Paul was critical of mister Netanier, who and a couple 0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:29.200 of other extreme right. If you're extreme right in the 0:57:29.240 --> 0:57:32.160 stranger they called you a fastist. If you're extreme right 0:57:32.240 --> 0:57:34.720 over there, they called you a part of their democracy. 0:57:36.200 --> 0:57:41.240 See all right, thank you, Keith. Yeah, Charlie is called 0:57:41.280 --> 0:57:45.120 in from picton. Good Charlie, my good. 0:57:45.760 --> 0:57:48.840 So it was Paul Buried at Ran really watched on. 0:57:48.960 --> 0:57:51.640 It before this guy before Linton. 0:57:52.320 --> 0:57:54.480 Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well. 0:57:54.400 --> 0:58:00.880 He had a great interview with Alan bond a bond 0:58:00.920 --> 0:58:04.280 up I think in the street and he said remember 0:58:04.360 --> 0:58:06.840 May and that was when Bondie was trying to prove 0:58:07.280 --> 0:58:12.880 he had a bad memory. Oh yeah, it's great, great 0:58:12.920 --> 0:58:18.000 to watch any right, and but but basically I reckon, 0:58:18.120 --> 0:58:22.439 you know who I reckon? Really? What should employ Roy 0:58:22.520 --> 0:58:28.240 and h G? I reckon that would that would write 0:58:28.280 --> 0:58:30.960 its pants off? You know it would? It would be 0:58:31.120 --> 0:58:32.960 absolutely fantastic. 0:58:32.880 --> 0:58:36.920 A bit of entertainment. Yeah. The Blake that's doing it now, 0:58:37.680 --> 0:58:39.880 you know I said he was he squirms in front 0:58:39.880 --> 0:58:43.840 of the camera. I when I saw him last he 0:58:44.080 --> 0:58:46.480 wasn't as bad. But he's still doing it so so 0:58:46.600 --> 0:58:48.800 maybe somebody had a word to him. But he's not 0:58:49.200 --> 0:58:52.440 really comfortable. I don't know if he'll ever get comfortable 0:58:52.520 --> 0:58:55.800 with what he's doing. But I don't think he's fulfilling 0:58:55.880 --> 0:58:58.480 the brief myself. But it would be fun to see 0:58:58.560 --> 0:59:04.840 Roy and HG taking the you know what out of Yeah, right, 0:59:04.960 --> 0:59:05.320 that's right. 0:59:05.440 --> 0:59:08.400 And the last thing I was going to say, I 0:59:08.520 --> 0:59:13.560 don't watch any news programs at night, like Channel nine 0:59:13.640 --> 0:59:18.840 News ten News seven years, because I find it's snuff. 0:59:19.640 --> 0:59:22.080 They put on stuff there that I do not want 0:59:22.120 --> 0:59:25.720 to watch, and like violent people being violent to each 0:59:25.760 --> 0:59:28.400 other or you know, there's a lot of things that 0:59:28.480 --> 0:59:32.160 they don't need to put on six o'clock news. I 0:59:32.280 --> 0:59:34.560 know that it's part of news, but I don't think 0:59:34.640 --> 0:59:39.000 that you know, seeing road rage, seeing you know, that 0:59:39.160 --> 0:59:41.520 type of thing, you know. I mean, I'd like to 0:59:41.600 --> 0:59:45.160 have a news item where you're told that, you know, 0:59:45.400 --> 0:59:48.320 just hold the basics, but you didn't go into the graphics, 0:59:48.360 --> 0:59:51.000 and you didn't go in and basically you had a 0:59:51.120 --> 0:59:54.440 good news scene. Halfway through, it'll break it up with 0:59:54.840 --> 0:59:58.120 good news stories, you know, so because otherways it just 0:59:58.240 --> 1:00:01.560 becomes to me like a a snack show, you know. 1:00:01.880 --> 1:00:04.320 So they're playing up the horror in your opinion, Yeah. 1:00:04.880 --> 1:00:08.360 Yeah, yeah, that's my opinion. But anyway, that's all I 1:00:08.440 --> 1:00:10.280 gotta say. And keep up with good work. 1:00:10.320 --> 1:00:11.520 All right, Thank you, Charlie. 1:00:12.160 --> 1:00:12.919 Okay bye. 1:00:13.320 --> 1:00:17.600 Jeff has called in from the Sunshine Coast. Good morning, Jeff, Hey, 1:00:17.720 --> 1:00:18.919 how are you doing not there. 1:00:22.240 --> 1:00:28.080 I live part of you. Every time I come back here, 1:00:28.120 --> 1:00:28.840 I'm so excited. 1:00:31.680 --> 1:00:33.640 Your phone line is not too good. Are you talking 1:00:33.760 --> 1:00:34.600 right into your phone? 1:00:35.560 --> 1:00:36.520 Can you hear me better now? 1:00:36.880 --> 1:00:37.080 Yes? 1:00:38.600 --> 1:00:40.560 Okay, So I was just saying, I look for about 1:00:40.600 --> 1:00:42.400 eight weeks of the year here, in the majority of 1:00:42.480 --> 1:00:46.400 time I live over and I just feel so sorry 1:00:46.440 --> 1:00:52.440 for young people. They're just bombard with with negative stories 1:00:52.480 --> 1:00:56.080 that the greater majority of them aren't true anyway. But 1:00:56.200 --> 1:00:58.960 it's just I just don't understand why people in the 1:00:59.080 --> 1:01:04.360 media don't start to think more about not the news, 1:01:04.400 --> 1:01:10.520 but it's just so negative down I just I don't understand. 1:01:11.120 --> 1:01:16.880 Well, uh as as the man from CNN said, fear cells. 1:01:19.080 --> 1:01:22.040 Yeah, but that doesn't help the citizens Australias who. 1:01:21.960 --> 1:01:25.200 Are in the young I think what is more concerning 1:01:25.320 --> 1:01:30.200 is what young people are told about history and the 1:01:30.280 --> 1:01:34.080 way some of their teachers go on. I mean, the 1:01:34.200 --> 1:01:36.040 news is the news. I take your point about it 1:01:36.120 --> 1:01:39.800 being negative, but U you know, every now and again 1:01:39.840 --> 1:01:42.400 somebody will try good news, happy news, but it never 1:01:42.480 --> 1:01:47.560 seems to work. So that's just what human beings are. 1:01:48.680 --> 1:01:55.320 I'm just I'm just ignorant very global warming, which maybe 1:01:55.480 --> 1:01:57.560 or maybe about. 1:01:59.240 --> 1:02:04.400 Yeah, a lot of it's a lot of it's either 1:02:04.680 --> 1:02:10.960 flat out untrue or very much exaggerated. Yes, look, I 1:02:11.080 --> 1:02:15.400 appreciate your calling, Jeff, but we're having trouble hearing you. Okay, lovely, 1:02:16.920 --> 1:02:21.400 see you mate, by bye. Here's an anonymous text that says, 1:02:21.800 --> 1:02:26.680 is it legal to turn someone's power off? My neighbors 1:02:26.800 --> 1:02:31.160 do it regularly. Do you mean they turn your power off? 1:02:32.720 --> 1:02:35.120 I've not heard of that before. Why would they do that? 1:02:35.240 --> 1:02:38.960 What's in it? Forum? I mean, I've heard people stealing 1:02:39.120 --> 1:02:45.320 the neighbor's power to uh, you know, provide power for 1:02:45.400 --> 1:02:48.680 the marijuana farm or whatever it is. But turning somebody 1:02:48.720 --> 1:02:50.520 else's power, why would they do that just to be 1:02:50.560 --> 1:02:53.600 annoying anyway, you have to clear that up for me. 1:02:53.680 --> 1:02:55.919 But I guess that's what you mean, the neighbors turn 1:02:56.000 --> 1:03:00.439 your power off? Weird? Denise says, Oh my, I thought 1:03:00.960 --> 1:03:04.480 went on. I've been here since the midnight news. Denise, 1:03:04.760 --> 1:03:08.280 At what point did you think I wasn't on? Darren says. 1:03:08.320 --> 1:03:13.040 People have to realize Biden let eleven million illegals in 1:03:13.320 --> 1:03:17.360 and heaps of them have committed sickening crimes. That's what 1:03:17.880 --> 1:03:21.640 Darren says. Yes, look, I think that you know, what 1:03:21.800 --> 1:03:24.240 you are alluding to is the original aim there, but 1:03:24.320 --> 1:03:27.920 of course I think it also has been taken over 1:03:28.040 --> 1:03:31.440 by other interests in the same way that Black Lives 1:03:31.840 --> 1:03:36.720 Matter was. And you know there are people behind the scenes. 1:03:37.800 --> 1:03:42.040 There are people apparently who are joining the demo for money, 1:03:42.080 --> 1:03:43.480 and I think there are people who are joining the 1:03:43.560 --> 1:03:46.880 demo because they are angry with the world and sees 1:03:46.920 --> 1:03:52.080 it's an opportunity to do a bit of looting. Ben 1:03:52.200 --> 1:03:57.360 says Alice Cooper. Yes once said the most commercial things 1:03:57.400 --> 1:04:01.160 are money, sex and death. Love The show says well 1:04:01.200 --> 1:04:07.560 that I suppose covers most things. Pats from Ostrol, Good morning, Pat, Look. 1:04:07.400 --> 1:04:09.360 I've been listening and having a bit of a giggle. 1:04:10.680 --> 1:04:13.400 I'd just like to tell you about some of the 1:04:13.480 --> 1:04:18.840 adventures that my sister and my friend went through years 1:04:18.880 --> 1:04:22.360 and years ago. Ama Barishter said, we love horses, and 1:04:22.480 --> 1:04:26.320 we moved out to ostral and he had horses there. 1:04:27.080 --> 1:04:30.400 So my sister went into the secretarial course and while 1:04:30.440 --> 1:04:33.000 she was there she met someone at the tech and 1:04:33.120 --> 1:04:36.440 she ended up doing a course at Hawkesby Agricultural College 1:04:37.040 --> 1:04:39.640 and the woman there was just an amazing woman. 1:04:39.680 --> 1:04:42.520 She was an a type personality would knock you over 1:04:42.840 --> 1:04:45.720 like she just knew so much. The only person I 1:04:45.840 --> 1:04:48.440 know that could talk on the phone, argue with her 1:04:48.520 --> 1:04:50.640 husband in the next room, and talk to me at 1:04:50.680 --> 1:04:52.280 the same time giving me directions. 1:04:52.360 --> 1:04:53.320 I don't know how she did it. 1:04:53.520 --> 1:04:55.960 She was a multitasker. A multitasker she was. 1:04:56.080 --> 1:04:59.320 She was amazing. But she was a full on type person. 1:04:59.600 --> 1:05:02.439 So she had a friend who had a big dairy 1:05:02.560 --> 1:05:08.680 up at Gostard and he sold sold the cattle and 1:05:08.840 --> 1:05:11.240 put in stables and made it a plate small like 1:05:11.440 --> 1:05:15.320 we tired or spelling of thoroughbrees. So he decided he 1:05:15.520 --> 1:05:17.400 liked Arabian horses, so he had a bit of a 1:05:17.520 --> 1:05:20.440 point of the bank, and he and this friend of 1:05:20.520 --> 1:05:23.840 mine went over to Europe to the Middle East to 1:05:23.960 --> 1:05:28.520 buy Arabian horses. They got to Egypt and they went 1:05:28.640 --> 1:05:31.920 there thinking, well, we'll get something nice. I need to 1:05:31.960 --> 1:05:34.400 find that the Americans had been there, paid big bucks 1:05:34.520 --> 1:05:38.360 and taken everything back to America and there was nothing 1:05:38.480 --> 1:05:39.720 left that they wanted to sell. 1:05:40.800 --> 1:05:43.760 So this is great. 1:05:44.280 --> 1:05:47.120 So the designer they would go and get a parade saddle. 1:05:47.840 --> 1:05:50.000 So they asked the guy at the hotel would they 1:05:50.120 --> 1:05:54.040 taped them into the bazaar and they went in and 1:05:54.320 --> 1:05:57.920 they walked in and because she's an h type personality, 1:05:57.960 --> 1:06:01.280 and started talking and the guy wouldn't even answer her. 1:06:01.960 --> 1:06:03.800 So she had to go and pride him because he 1:06:03.880 --> 1:06:06.040 was a very quite retricive man, and tell him what 1:06:06.240 --> 1:06:08.840 she wanted. They thought they were American and they're going 1:06:08.920 --> 1:06:10.960 to give them the shoddy goods till they found out 1:06:11.000 --> 1:06:12.680 they were Audie, and they took it out the back 1:06:13.280 --> 1:06:17.680 and they ended up buying this amazing saddle beautifully hadn't 1:06:17.800 --> 1:06:22.320 over everything and the bridle, and they couldn't get back out, 1:06:22.360 --> 1:06:23.960 even to get a cab because it was like a 1:06:24.040 --> 1:06:27.040 rabbit warrant. So finally they got back to the hotel, 1:06:27.600 --> 1:06:29.800 I need to be told, you've got to get the 1:06:29.880 --> 1:06:30.480 hell out of here. 1:06:30.520 --> 1:06:30.880 What it? 1:06:31.040 --> 1:06:31.480 What do you mean? 1:06:31.920 --> 1:06:33.960 They said, Well, the place is surrounded. There's going to 1:06:33.960 --> 1:06:35.360 be a war. This is the Sixth Day War I 1:06:35.400 --> 1:06:39.480 think was back late sixties, early seventies. So they rang 1:06:39.600 --> 1:06:41.640 up and they got a flight out and packed their 1:06:41.680 --> 1:06:45.240 bags and took off. So they ended up coming back 1:06:46.080 --> 1:06:48.560 and then they decided that they would go to America. 1:06:49.440 --> 1:06:51.800 So my sister at that time was working part time 1:06:52.040 --> 1:06:56.280 up there. And doing a course, and this woman went 1:06:56.360 --> 1:06:59.240 off jeded off to America. They tried to get horse 1:06:59.360 --> 1:07:01.640 from Waynew and he said, no way, I've just paid 1:07:01.640 --> 1:07:03.240 a fortune this when you're not getting it? 1:07:05.080 --> 1:07:06.920 Was he I didn't know he was a horse lover, 1:07:07.040 --> 1:07:07.680 but yeah, you're gone. 1:07:08.520 --> 1:07:11.400 Oh he has Arabians in the way. He's got a 1:07:11.440 --> 1:07:12.800 big start outside of Davids. 1:07:13.080 --> 1:07:17.480 Okay, well they are magnificent creatures, but go on. Yes, Well. 1:07:19.160 --> 1:07:24.000 They went to America and they had to argue, almost 1:07:24.160 --> 1:07:27.200 like give blood to get this horse, which they was 1:07:27.240 --> 1:07:31.280 a mating of a full brother to Bull's sister. They 1:07:31.360 --> 1:07:33.120 got it back and I was up there at a 1:07:33.160 --> 1:07:35.120 horse show and I said, can I see this thing? No, 1:07:35.640 --> 1:07:39.200 you can't see it. And I said, I came on 1:07:39.320 --> 1:07:41.400 way people to see this horse, and I was judging 1:07:41.520 --> 1:07:43.200 the show, and I thought, I've got to see this thing. 1:07:43.640 --> 1:07:45.080 So he went up to feed it, and I followed 1:07:45.160 --> 1:07:48.400 him up. And it was a little, stunted, tiny thing 1:07:48.520 --> 1:07:52.080 with the most exquisite headed eye, beautiful body, but about 1:07:52.120 --> 1:07:58.280 the size of a pony. So I said, and my games, 1:07:58.480 --> 1:07:59.560 you're gonn let me have a look at it. She 1:07:59.640 --> 1:08:02.720 took the go it It was really, really nice. He 1:08:02.800 --> 1:08:05.360 brought it to his mares and with such an outcross 1:08:05.920 --> 1:08:09.520 that they had these beautiful head, enormous eyes, absolutely gorgeous, 1:08:10.080 --> 1:08:11.960 and ended up winning everywhere. 1:08:11.600 --> 1:08:12.360 With these horses. 1:08:12.720 --> 1:08:13.640 Okay, and he. 1:08:13.720 --> 1:08:15.800 Paid a motza for it. I'm telling you a mozza. 1:08:17.000 --> 1:08:19.360 So they went to the Middle East to get the horses. 1:08:19.439 --> 1:08:21.200 The Americans had bought them all up. They had to 1:08:21.200 --> 1:08:23.880 go to America to buy them, and they paid big 1:08:23.960 --> 1:08:26.400 bucks and they brought it back and he was very 1:08:26.439 --> 1:08:28.600 happy with what he did in the finish, but it 1:08:28.720 --> 1:08:32.600 cost him an absolute mozza. But he was happy. He 1:08:32.680 --> 1:08:34.680 had his horses, and he had his mares, and he 1:08:34.840 --> 1:08:36.800 was raking the money from thoroughbredge So. 1:08:37.400 --> 1:08:39.160 Well, it sounds like the good life. What happened to 1:08:39.240 --> 1:08:39.639 the saddle? 1:08:41.160 --> 1:08:42.800 Oh love this. 1:08:44.320 --> 1:08:48.559 They got it home and they had this lovely krabbit 1:08:48.680 --> 1:08:52.160 stallion and they put it on him and he just 1:08:52.400 --> 1:08:55.760 went really well and he ended up he won an 1:08:55.840 --> 1:08:58.960 event at Sydney oyl and he won the stallion under saddle, 1:08:59.080 --> 1:09:02.640 so they were pretty My sister, of course, rode and 1:09:02.760 --> 1:09:04.920 it was very very good. We had a really good 1:09:05.000 --> 1:09:08.800 life back then. Seventy nine. Now, I mean I don't 1:09:08.840 --> 1:09:10.200 think i'd I could get up and go out the 1:09:10.240 --> 1:09:12.960 back and start, you know, picking up the horse mirror 1:09:13.080 --> 1:09:16.519 and you know, brushing them down and everything. But it 1:09:16.680 --> 1:09:18.439 was really funny because we used to go to the 1:09:18.520 --> 1:09:21.080 shows and the horses would go completely bananas, you know 1:09:21.080 --> 1:09:22.880 when they have the side shows and all the noise 1:09:22.920 --> 1:09:26.840 and everything, and our horses just stood there and they said, 1:09:27.040 --> 1:09:29.320 what drugs do you give your horses? We said nothing? 1:09:29.439 --> 1:09:31.120 They said, what do you mean. What we used to 1:09:31.200 --> 1:09:33.600 do is we get to transistor out and you have 1:09:33.680 --> 1:09:35.800 back in the sixties, the heavy metal and all that 1:09:36.080 --> 1:09:39.840 terrible music they had, especially the stone. We touched it 1:09:39.880 --> 1:09:43.160 down the back, tied the transistor up and call the 1:09:43.200 --> 1:09:45.960 horses up to be fed, and we white woot them down, 1:09:46.000 --> 1:09:47.320 you know, clean their feet out and everything. 1:09:47.520 --> 1:09:48.679 The horses went berserk. 1:09:49.800 --> 1:09:51.800 If you just imagine under the board walking all of 1:09:51.840 --> 1:09:53.360 those really noisy. 1:09:53.600 --> 1:09:54.919 Yeah they were dancing horses. 1:09:55.200 --> 1:09:58.439 Yes, they just stood there and didn't turn their hair. 1:09:58.920 --> 1:10:02.040 And everyone said what drugs did give? It should nothing 1:10:02.080 --> 1:10:05.080 because if you win, they can take urine from your course. 1:10:05.160 --> 1:10:08.640 Well yeares that's right, taking tests and they do and 1:10:08.760 --> 1:10:09.599 they did. Yeah. 1:10:09.600 --> 1:10:11.720 I had a lot of a lot of fun. So 1:10:11.760 --> 1:10:14.080 I'm just telling me some of the fun they had 1:10:14.600 --> 1:10:16.400 good old days back in the Little Leaf. And here 1:10:16.439 --> 1:10:20.479 we are now, what two thousand and twenty five, and 1:10:20.520 --> 1:10:22.519 they're still over there fighting and killing each other. 1:10:22.840 --> 1:10:25.360 They've been doing it for a long time now. Yep. 1:10:25.479 --> 1:10:27.000 I thought you were going to tell me back then 1:10:27.200 --> 1:10:31.000 that they lived pretty much the same as everybody else 1:10:31.120 --> 1:10:34.960 in the Western world. But then, of course seventy nine 1:10:35.680 --> 1:10:38.760 the Aya Toler and his mob took over and it 1:10:38.880 --> 1:10:39.719 became very different. 1:10:39.720 --> 1:10:40.800 Now that wasn't too good. 1:10:41.120 --> 1:10:44.160 No, indeed, Pat, thank you for calling. 1:10:45.240 --> 1:10:48.120 I enjoy listening to you. You're an amazing man. I 1:10:48.240 --> 1:10:49.479 just wish you were on a bit more. 1:10:49.880 --> 1:10:51.559 I love you boys, Thank you very much. 1:10:51.720 --> 1:10:54.040 You're are very very good at what you do. Thank 1:10:54.080 --> 1:10:57.639 you for keeping me going during the night by butte. 1:10:57.560 --> 1:11:04.680 Okay, see your Pat. I have eleven short texts here 1:11:04.800 --> 1:11:11.320 from Denise. Yes, I've read them, Denise. Denise was marveling 1:11:11.400 --> 1:11:16.840 at Pat's stories. Yeah, I was just curious. It struck 1:11:16.880 --> 1:11:18.400 a bit of a chord with me talking about the 1:11:18.640 --> 1:11:27.040 Fancy Saddle because my granny way back. The people who 1:11:27.080 --> 1:11:29.960 were making I think it was the Ned Kelly movie 1:11:30.080 --> 1:11:32.960 with Mick Jagger. Anyway, it was one of the original 1:11:33.040 --> 1:11:35.840 Ned Kelly movies, and the people making the movies the 1:11:35.960 --> 1:11:41.759 movie came to see my granny, knowing of the arguments 1:11:41.840 --> 1:11:45.880 that had been had between her would have been her grandfather, 1:11:46.000 --> 1:11:49.360 I guess, and the Kelly gang. And along the way 1:11:50.320 --> 1:11:53.759 they noticed that Grannie had kept a lot of stuff 1:11:53.960 --> 1:11:58.240 that goes on horses, you know, harnesses and saddles and 1:11:58.280 --> 1:12:00.880 all that kind of thing. So I guess it was 1:12:01.080 --> 1:12:05.920 authentic to the era, and the film people said, oh, 1:12:06.040 --> 1:12:09.160 can we take that to make the movie. We promised 1:12:09.160 --> 1:12:12.760 to bring it back, but of course, being film people, 1:12:13.640 --> 1:12:17.880 they never did so I'm not sure exactly how fancy 1:12:17.960 --> 1:12:20.400 the saddles and things were this year, but as I say, 1:12:20.439 --> 1:12:25.479 I guess they were representative of the era, and the 1:12:25.800 --> 1:12:27.479 film people took them and put them on film. I 1:12:27.479 --> 1:12:30.960 don't know what they did with them after that. I mean, seriously, 1:12:31.000 --> 1:12:33.400 what would you do with it? But they didn't give 1:12:33.400 --> 1:12:36.040 it back to Granny. Jeffrey has sent me an email. 1:12:36.120 --> 1:12:37.599 By the way, if you'd like to send me an email, 1:12:37.760 --> 1:12:42.320 just send it to Overnights at twogb dot com. And 1:12:42.439 --> 1:12:45.280 I know this program goes on lots of other stations 1:12:45.920 --> 1:12:49.920 besides TGB. But that's the one that they use for 1:12:50.240 --> 1:12:56.320 emails for this program, Jeffrey from Beverly Hills, Not the 1:12:56.439 --> 1:12:59.840 US one. The other one, says Hi Mike. America was 1:12:59.880 --> 1:13:03.640 not built by slaves working on some cotton fields, but 1:13:03.800 --> 1:13:09.719 by successive waves of white European, Irish and British migrants. Likewise, 1:13:09.880 --> 1:13:13.519 the cohort most responsible for building modern Australia was not 1:13:13.720 --> 1:13:20.160 convicts but postwar migrants, says Jeffrey. I mean, yeah, I 1:13:20.240 --> 1:13:23.879 take your point. You do see stuff that the convicts 1:13:24.080 --> 1:13:26.760 built a course, but yes, it's very different from that. 1:13:26.840 --> 1:13:31.640 But on the whole slavery thing, I mean, seriously, all 1:13:31.760 --> 1:13:35.680 that stuff about the Lima Agreement and we're going to 1:13:36.520 --> 1:13:40.840 outsource the industry to the emerging nations, the biggest one 1:13:40.920 --> 1:13:45.559 being China, and then they will lift their standard of living. 1:13:46.240 --> 1:13:48.720 You remember all that stuff, and they'll be just like 1:13:48.800 --> 1:13:52.120 the Western world. Yes, look at how that's worked out. 1:13:52.720 --> 1:13:58.720 But to my mind, that was always just outsourcing the 1:13:58.800 --> 1:14:03.560 slavery because a T shirt made in China was so 1:14:03.680 --> 1:14:08.240 much cheaper than a T shirt made in Australia, or 1:14:08.320 --> 1:14:12.879 making anything in Australia. For example, the amount of GDP 1:14:13.560 --> 1:14:20.320 that we get from manufacturing that we export is so tiny, tiny, tiny. 1:14:21.560 --> 1:14:26.519 But my position is, ultimately, okay, it cost us more 1:14:26.560 --> 1:14:30.200 to make stuff here because we paid people more in wages, 1:14:31.120 --> 1:14:35.360 but it was proportional the amount of money those people 1:14:35.479 --> 1:14:39.360 got for making whatever it was. Okay, we protected it 1:14:39.520 --> 1:14:43.240 with tariffs, and then we did away with all the tariffs. Oh, 1:14:43.520 --> 1:14:47.680 look at how that's working out now. My point is 1:14:48.000 --> 1:14:52.080 it was proportional. People got enough money, was what they 1:14:52.200 --> 1:14:55.760 earned was proportional to their ability to buy a house, 1:14:56.200 --> 1:14:59.320 for example. But we don't have any of that stuff now. 1:15:00.640 --> 1:15:04.240 So when it came to outsourcing the slavery and just 1:15:05.320 --> 1:15:10.040 relying absolutely on as a lady friend of mine a 1:15:10.160 --> 1:15:13.000 journal used to say, digging it out of the ground 1:15:13.080 --> 1:15:17.479 to make a fast buck. That's kind of paled a 1:15:17.520 --> 1:15:23.479 bit recently since the Chinese aunt is vigorous in the 1:15:23.960 --> 1:15:28.160 economy department as they used to be. And here we 1:15:28.240 --> 1:15:30.160 are with a whole lot of people very angry because 1:15:30.160 --> 1:15:33.040 they can't realize what used to be called the Australian dream. 1:15:34.920 --> 1:15:38.240 We will have some news for you too at the moment. 1:15:38.520 --> 1:15:41.280 We've got Wendy from Canon Vale. Hi, Wendy, what do 1:15:41.280 --> 1:15:41.960 you want to talk about? 1:15:44.360 --> 1:15:49.680 Hello? Hello, Hello, I just want to word folve you 1:15:49.800 --> 1:15:53.480 that I've got a granddaughter who's been diagnosed with ADHD, 1:15:55.080 --> 1:15:57.880 and I've put my foot down on any drugs being 1:15:58.120 --> 1:16:04.519 administered because work five years as a psychiatric clinic and 1:16:05.240 --> 1:16:09.599 if a child is diagnosed with a mental disease, they 1:16:09.720 --> 1:16:12.840 stay like it right through to adulthood for the rest 1:16:12.880 --> 1:16:19.839 of their lives. Drugs do no help whatsoever. They actually 1:16:20.040 --> 1:16:23.480 stop the child's brain from developing. 1:16:24.640 --> 1:16:27.520 Right, So, how's this going down with the parents. 1:16:28.760 --> 1:16:33.080 Oh, very well, my grandmughder takes notice of me. 1:16:33.840 --> 1:16:37.320 Right, And so your granddaughter is the one that's been 1:16:37.560 --> 1:16:38.599 prescribed the drugs. 1:16:38.960 --> 1:16:40.400 Oh her daughter? 1:16:40.680 --> 1:16:42.960 Oh, her daughter, says your great granddaughter. 1:16:43.720 --> 1:16:45.639 Yeah, that's right, right. 1:16:46.560 --> 1:16:49.839 And how old is the little girl has been prescribed 1:16:49.880 --> 1:16:50.320 the drugs. 1:16:51.800 --> 1:16:57.200 I think five. The brain is still developing. You can't 1:16:57.320 --> 1:17:01.360 give a child drugs. And also it's a long term treatment. 1:17:03.120 --> 1:17:07.920 Reason why why ADHD is escalating and so many children 1:17:07.960 --> 1:17:11.240 are being diagnosed. It's a cash cow for the doctors 1:17:11.320 --> 1:17:12.479 and the drug companies. 1:17:13.080 --> 1:17:17.760 Right, Okay, So you say it doesn't work and it 1:17:17.920 --> 1:17:24.240 retards the brain development of the child, Yes, okay, And 1:17:25.400 --> 1:17:30.240 you've observed this yourself and it's you're very strongly of 1:17:30.320 --> 1:17:34.479 that opinion. Yes, okay. 1:17:34.640 --> 1:17:39.160 And I think that all people should be awake to 1:17:39.280 --> 1:17:42.840 the fact that doctors are business men and they've got 1:17:42.920 --> 1:17:46.280 to make a living, and so have the drug companies. 1:17:47.680 --> 1:17:51.280 And they may prescribe something, and so long as it 1:17:51.360 --> 1:17:53.960 doesn't kill the patient, they keep on doing it. 1:17:56.920 --> 1:17:59.080 As long as it doesn't kill the patient, they keep 1:17:59.160 --> 1:18:01.879 doing it. I suppose there's not much point in prescribing 1:18:01.920 --> 1:18:03.000 it if the patient's dead. 1:18:04.200 --> 1:18:08.320 No, but I'll tell you a joke which has a 1:18:08.479 --> 1:18:10.960 great deal of truth in it. There you go on, 1:18:11.280 --> 1:18:15.280 and this about a doctor went on holiday and left 1:18:15.360 --> 1:18:19.240 his newly graduated son, who was a doctor in charge 1:18:19.280 --> 1:18:25.679 of each clinic. When he came back, the sun was elated. 1:18:25.760 --> 1:18:29.360 He says, Oh, gee, dare I've cured missus Murphy's ulcer 1:18:30.360 --> 1:18:34.839 and the doctor ship white. Do you realize Missus Murphy's 1:18:34.880 --> 1:18:36.920 ulcer put you through medical school? 1:18:39.200 --> 1:18:41.480 I see, all righty, thank you, Wendy. 1:18:41.960 --> 1:18:43.920 Okay, good bye, bye bye. 1:18:45.240 --> 1:18:49.560 David says, good morning and hello to everyone in Australia. 1:18:50.160 --> 1:18:54.040 From everyone at the Chugan Billiards Club in hang to 1:18:54.680 --> 1:18:59.480 Shanghai and China. Please look at your email for photos 1:19:00.560 --> 1:19:04.160 of the Chew Gang billiards club that Chris said he 1:19:04.240 --> 1:19:07.160 had a look at the emails and hasn't seen any photos. 1:19:07.360 --> 1:19:12.800 You get any photos, Dale, Dale's indicating something. I have 1:19:12.920 --> 1:19:15.960 no idea what it meant. He seemed to be pointing 1:19:16.000 --> 1:19:18.600 to his own head and moving the fingers around. What 1:19:18.680 --> 1:19:22.599 does that mean? Dale's lost his mind yet? What he's 1:19:22.640 --> 1:19:28.720 trying to tell us? Anyway? Dale's investigating. He is an 1:19:29.000 --> 1:19:35.240 anonymous one from a correspondent who says, thank you very much. 1:19:36.320 --> 1:19:38.920 Oh he was printing it out. I see, okay, all 1:19:38.960 --> 1:19:40.760 the pictures. Oh, I haven't got time to do it now, 1:19:40.840 --> 1:19:44.480 but I'll do it after the news. Also the anonymous 1:19:44.479 --> 1:19:49.760 comment about Donald Trump and what I'll say now is 1:19:50.320 --> 1:19:51.480 here is the news. 1:19:57.840 --> 1:20:02.400 Now on two GB four B and network stations. Back 1:20:02.479 --> 1:20:07.120 to our spray your overnight with Mike Jeffries, Good morning. 1:20:07.040 --> 1:20:10.400 Welcome along, have just joined us. Why would you just 1:20:10.520 --> 1:20:14.320 join us at this hour of the morning. You finished work, 1:20:14.840 --> 1:20:20.160 you're going to work, you just woke up from a 1:20:20.240 --> 1:20:25.840 bad dream. I don't know, Jeff says, good morning. The 1:20:26.080 --> 1:20:28.599 sliding doors moment here in Australia is when Bob Hawk 1:20:28.680 --> 1:20:31.960 decided to use monies put aside for the Jack Gordon 1:20:32.000 --> 1:20:35.680 Beale Works program by Malcolm Frasier. For other things, no 1:20:35.840 --> 1:20:40.120 dams or flood watered diversion was entered into. Some flood 1:20:40.200 --> 1:20:42.839 victims can't even get insurance. Yeah, I see those stories. 1:20:42.960 --> 1:20:46.439 Now they should be thanking Bob Hawk and the Labor 1:20:46.479 --> 1:20:51.720 Party for their situation and other subsequence people who were 1:20:52.840 --> 1:20:58.160 subsequential people had their hands on the leavers, like the 1:20:58.240 --> 1:21:01.519 wonderful Daniel Andrews. If we build a dam, it won't 1:21:01.560 --> 1:21:04.439 make it rain. Been a lot of rain since Daniel 1:21:04.560 --> 1:21:08.639 said that if we had some dams, if we'd built 1:21:08.680 --> 1:21:13.160 some dams instead of spending all that money on desalination plants. 1:21:13.880 --> 1:21:14.080 I know. 1:21:14.200 --> 1:21:18.000 We blame that on people like Tim Flannery who said 1:21:18.720 --> 1:21:21.160 it's hardly going to rain at all. What was it 1:21:22.040 --> 1:21:25.120 The rain not only won't fill the dams, the earth 1:21:25.160 --> 1:21:28.160 will be so dry the earth won't even soak it up, 1:21:28.320 --> 1:21:30.960 or something like that. But because it hasn't worked out 1:21:31.000 --> 1:21:36.160 that way at all at all. But then you wonder whether, 1:21:37.120 --> 1:21:39.880 well there were special arrangements made behind the scenes to 1:21:39.960 --> 1:21:45.040 build a dam desalination plants. That's dam with an end. 1:21:45.320 --> 1:21:48.000 We should have been building the other kind, the one 1:21:48.040 --> 1:21:51.800 that don't have an N on the end. But we 1:21:51.960 --> 1:21:55.880 haven't done that. Yeah, and we could have. I thought 1:21:55.920 --> 1:21:57.479 this is interesting. This is on the front page of 1:21:57.479 --> 1:22:00.400 the Camber Times. You know, Elbow's going on about Amazon. 1:22:00.439 --> 1:22:04.000 They're going to spend all this money on AI here 1:22:04.080 --> 1:22:06.479 in Australia, and of course they're doing the full suck 1:22:06.520 --> 1:22:09.720 up to the government by saying, oh, yes, it will 1:22:09.760 --> 1:22:17.080 be powered by renewables. Really really anyway, Campra Time's got 1:22:17.120 --> 1:22:20.680 a story adding up. They say the true value of 1:22:20.720 --> 1:22:27.080 the public services exclusive agreements with IT giants exposed Right 1:22:27.880 --> 1:22:33.280 tech deals misreported. This is their front page story. Agencies 1:22:33.360 --> 1:22:37.400 are obscuring the full amount they spent with global IT 1:22:37.920 --> 1:22:42.439 giants by misreporting deals worth hundreds of thousands of dollars 1:22:43.439 --> 1:22:48.600 with the tech behemoths under confidential hold of government agreements. 1:22:49.840 --> 1:22:52.920 The new figures come as an independent review of the 1:22:53.000 --> 1:22:58.200 agreements are in their final stages and could recommend significant 1:22:58.280 --> 1:23:04.400 changes to the secretive deals. Analysis by The Camber Times 1:23:04.640 --> 1:23:08.519 of oz tender data shows that in the last financial year, 1:23:08.560 --> 1:23:13.280 the Commonwealth signed contracts worth just shy of two hundred 1:23:13.320 --> 1:23:20.400 million dollars with IBM, Amazon Web Services, Microsoft, SAP and 1:23:20.600 --> 1:23:25.400 Oracle that were not listed as being procured under the 1:23:25.479 --> 1:23:29.400 single seller arrangement with each of the global technology companies. 1:23:30.160 --> 1:23:34.880 This is despite the agreements enabling agencies to access significant 1:23:34.920 --> 1:23:39.679 discounts due to the huge sums the Australian government spends 1:23:40.280 --> 1:23:43.599 with each of the firms. In one example, the Department 1:23:43.640 --> 1:23:47.720 of Employment Workplace Relations published a nine point seventy five 1:23:48.360 --> 1:23:53.080 million three year contract with Amazon Web Services last week 1:23:53.720 --> 1:23:57.360 without indicating the contract was procured under the whole of 1:23:57.400 --> 1:24:02.639 Government agreement between the Commonwealth and Amazon. Well who would 1:24:02.640 --> 1:24:05.120 have thought. And of course we also have the situation 1:24:05.280 --> 1:24:08.840 of the guy from Amazon sucking up with the game. 1:24:08.840 --> 1:24:12.240 Oh yes, no, we understand that Australia doesn't have a 1:24:12.400 --> 1:24:17.800 nuclear industry, even though at other Amazon plants they're making 1:24:17.880 --> 1:24:21.120 sure that that's available to them. But renewables are going 1:24:21.160 --> 1:24:24.439 to do it here. I don't see that. I really 1:24:24.520 --> 1:24:29.320 really don't see that. But anyway, if you would like 1:24:29.360 --> 1:24:30.759 to give me a call or send me a text 1:24:31.040 --> 1:24:36.640 or an email, you're certainly welcome to do that. Let 1:24:36.720 --> 1:24:38.840 me read you some of the texts here. Denise says, 1:24:39.240 --> 1:24:42.280 a bit of convicts and migrants worked very hard and 1:24:42.400 --> 1:24:46.840 wanted to make Australia AU great, says Denise. Yes, some 1:24:46.920 --> 1:24:50.719 of them did work hard, no question about that. Maybe 1:24:50.800 --> 1:24:55.600 not willingly, but they did. Here's the anonymous one I 1:24:55.680 --> 1:24:59.680 started to read before the news, but then events intervened. 1:25:00.040 --> 1:25:03.160 Donald Trump, it says must have spent over one hundred 1:25:03.200 --> 1:25:07.040 million dollars of taxpayers money on his dictator parade and 1:25:07.200 --> 1:25:10.880 all the time playing golf. If our Prime minister did that, 1:25:10.960 --> 1:25:12.920 he would be kicked out of office, even by his 1:25:13.000 --> 1:25:18.439 own party. Do you think do you think Prime Minister 1:25:18.600 --> 1:25:21.519 is a cunning little fellow when it comes to playing 1:25:21.600 --> 1:25:26.200 internal politics external I'm not so sure, but internally he 1:25:26.680 --> 1:25:29.800 knows how to do it. And David, thank you for 1:25:29.920 --> 1:25:33.960 sending us the photo of the interior of the chew 1:25:34.080 --> 1:25:39.640 Gan Billiards Club in hang To Shanghai and China. And 1:25:40.000 --> 1:25:43.160 yes they're pictures of billiard tables and lights and somebody 1:25:43.200 --> 1:25:47.800 playing billiards. Is that you, David playing billiards there? Yeah, 1:25:47.840 --> 1:25:50.160 thank you very much for that. What I'd like though, 1:25:50.360 --> 1:25:53.439 and this is, you know, just to keep the team happy. Chris, 1:25:53.680 --> 1:25:56.679 who works with me on the program, was very interested 1:25:56.720 --> 1:26:00.719 in tracking down the billiards club, but he can't find 1:26:00.800 --> 1:26:04.519 anything about it. So could you send us a photo 1:26:04.560 --> 1:26:06.519 of the exterior, you know, does it have a nice 1:26:07.040 --> 1:26:09.920 neon sign saying chew gan billiads something like that, you know, 1:26:10.080 --> 1:26:16.240 for him, and it says yes, Michael, I just woke up. 1:26:16.400 --> 1:26:20.599 How did you know? Well, it's a gift. It's a gift, Anna, 1:26:21.760 --> 1:26:23.559 and I said, so, Hi, my hugs to you. Thank 1:26:23.640 --> 1:26:27.040 you for the hugs. Not happy. I fell asleep before midnight. 1:26:27.080 --> 1:26:28.560 Now you have to come back on tonight again to 1:26:28.600 --> 1:26:30.840 make it up to me. Lots of cuddles, says Anna. 1:26:31.520 --> 1:26:37.240 Thank you Anna for the hugs and cuddles. And you know, 1:26:38.320 --> 1:26:40.960 I believe the plan is for Phil to be on 1:26:41.080 --> 1:26:45.320 tomorrow night. However, we have a plan for after these commercials. 1:26:45.680 --> 1:26:48.640 Watches I have mentioned on this program before. I do 1:26:49.200 --> 1:26:54.360 like watches. There's something about watches. A second generation watchmaker 1:26:54.479 --> 1:26:57.760 is just about to close up at Neutral Bay, even 1:26:57.840 --> 1:27:01.400 though he's been a watch repair and jewelry shop there 1:27:01.520 --> 1:27:05.760 for fifty three years. His name's Nick Pearson. He's been 1:27:05.760 --> 1:27:07.960 good enough to give us some of his time. Good morning, Nick, 1:27:08.000 --> 1:27:08.640 thanks for doing this. 1:27:09.280 --> 1:27:10.240 Now that Mike, how are you? 1:27:10.520 --> 1:27:13.799 I'm very well, thank you. When it comes to watches, 1:27:14.640 --> 1:27:17.400 men in particular seem to like watches. I'm not saying 1:27:17.439 --> 1:27:22.040 that women don't. I've mentioned in the past over the years, 1:27:23.160 --> 1:27:25.840 I've given the occasional lady friend to watch, but I 1:27:26.160 --> 1:27:30.320 know deep down it's because I like watches, not necessarily 1:27:30.479 --> 1:27:34.839 that's what she wanted. So what's the fascination with watches? 1:27:34.920 --> 1:27:39.200 Do you think because there's such remarkable mechanical devices. 1:27:38.960 --> 1:27:39.600 Or what is it? 1:27:40.600 --> 1:27:40.800 Well? 1:27:40.960 --> 1:27:44.840 I think so, and I do agree with you that 1:27:45.160 --> 1:27:48.799 men seem to be more attracted to watches and collecting 1:27:48.920 --> 1:27:53.160 watches than the ladies are. I do have ladies that 1:27:53.280 --> 1:27:55.479 do have their watches, but the guys seem to go 1:27:55.680 --> 1:27:57.439 in for them. 1:27:58.280 --> 1:27:58.760 I don't know. 1:27:58.920 --> 1:28:01.120 I guess it's a little bit like them liking to 1:28:01.240 --> 1:28:05.040 collect cars and so on. But a lot of men 1:28:05.280 --> 1:28:08.240 don't wear a lot of jewelry. I don't wear jewelry, 1:28:08.320 --> 1:28:13.200 but I love my watches, and I think mechanical watches 1:28:13.560 --> 1:28:16.839 are more attractive to guys that like to collect watches 1:28:16.880 --> 1:28:21.400 as well. Some people like battery powered watches, but mechanical watches, 1:28:21.479 --> 1:28:26.280 I guess, are more traditional with their mechanisms. 1:28:26.360 --> 1:28:29.639 Yes, there's so much going on in there in such 1:28:29.680 --> 1:28:34.280 a small space. I think that's a large part of it. 1:28:35.200 --> 1:28:39.800 I did have a accompaniment to an iPhone for a 1:28:39.880 --> 1:28:43.759 while until the iPhone fell out of my pocket and crashed. 1:28:44.200 --> 1:28:47.720 So I've gone back to wearing watches again, and it's 1:28:47.720 --> 1:28:50.360 sitting in the drawer with the other watches. But there's 1:28:50.360 --> 1:28:54.000 been some very expensive watches over the years. Tom Brady, 1:28:54.200 --> 1:28:58.880 you know, the famous quarterback in the US. He was 1:28:58.920 --> 1:29:01.240 seen out the other day where a watch worth seven 1:29:01.320 --> 1:29:05.080 hundred and forty thousand US dollars. It was. Let me 1:29:05.120 --> 1:29:08.080 see if I've got this right, a Caviat turbion. 1:29:09.640 --> 1:29:09.880 M h. 1:29:11.120 --> 1:29:12.960 It seems like a fairly decent price for a watch. 1:29:13.479 --> 1:29:14.080 Well it does. 1:29:14.240 --> 1:29:17.080 Yeah, Look, I'm not familiar with that particular watch, but 1:29:17.160 --> 1:29:20.880 I think the turbion may refer to the type of 1:29:21.160 --> 1:29:25.759 escapement in the watch, the mechanical escapement. I'm not familiar 1:29:25.840 --> 1:29:31.320 with his watch. Whether the price tag is related entirely 1:29:31.439 --> 1:29:37.080 to the mechanism. Sometimes watches gold with diamonds and so on, 1:29:37.720 --> 1:29:40.360 and that can make up a large part of the 1:29:40.520 --> 1:29:43.680 value of the watch. But certainly some of the more 1:29:45.960 --> 1:29:51.880 well some of the more prestigious mechanical watches and can 1:29:51.960 --> 1:29:54.120 be very valuable. A lot of them are one off, 1:29:54.760 --> 1:29:57.840 and a lot of them, I guess come closer to 1:29:58.000 --> 1:30:02.920 being made by a watch maker. I mean, the term 1:30:03.000 --> 1:30:06.040 for a tradesman that fixes watches is a watchmaker. That's 1:30:06.080 --> 1:30:08.080 what I am, a watchmaker, but I've. 1:30:08.000 --> 1:30:08.800 Never made a watch. 1:30:09.800 --> 1:30:11.800 Yeah, there's some nice watches out there. 1:30:12.240 --> 1:30:14.280 Would you like to do that? Would somebody pay you 1:30:14.360 --> 1:30:15.840 to make them a bespoke watch? 1:30:16.520 --> 1:30:19.960 Oh goodness, I wouldn't have the time, I mean to 1:30:20.080 --> 1:30:24.639 do that. You you would need to be really well 1:30:25.000 --> 1:30:28.639 practiced with your machinery and so on, and it would 1:30:28.640 --> 1:30:30.720 take a lot of practice. You know, you'd have to 1:30:30.760 --> 1:30:34.320 be doing it over and over again and have access 1:30:34.479 --> 1:30:39.760 to some really top line production stuff to get the 1:30:39.880 --> 1:30:40.320 job done. 1:30:40.360 --> 1:30:40.639 I think. 1:30:41.600 --> 1:30:45.080 On the subject of the expensive watch, there's one of 1:30:45.160 --> 1:30:49.120 Ibilli to leave half a dozen roll exes that used 1:30:49.120 --> 1:30:54.760 to belong to Paul Newman that's sold at auction for 1:30:55.400 --> 1:30:58.280 depending on what story you believe, either fifteen point five 1:30:58.320 --> 1:31:04.320 million dollars or seventeen point eight million dollars. It's Daytona Rolex. 1:31:04.760 --> 1:31:07.559 But you're the expert, you tell me. But I'm guessing 1:31:08.680 --> 1:31:11.479 part of that price would be because it belonged to 1:31:11.560 --> 1:31:14.720 Paul Newman and it has an inscription on the back 1:31:15.479 --> 1:31:19.200 from his wife, and you know Daytona he's about because 1:31:19.200 --> 1:31:21.760 you know he took up motor racing in his latter years, 1:31:22.360 --> 1:31:25.240 and there's an inscription on the back of this particular 1:31:25.320 --> 1:31:30.439 watch that says drive safely me. That would be his wife, 1:31:30.640 --> 1:31:34.200 Joanna Woodward. But that's a pretty decent price. Whether it's 1:31:34.240 --> 1:31:37.679 fifteen point five million or seventeen point eight there's. 1:31:37.520 --> 1:31:39.920 Not much difference between those two when you're getting up 1:31:39.960 --> 1:31:45.800 into that league. Yeah, look, rocks. A lot of the 1:31:45.880 --> 1:31:49.040 rolicses are. There's a lot of brands that are collectible 1:31:49.280 --> 1:31:51.880 for different reasons, but certainly the fact that he owned 1:31:51.880 --> 1:31:55.920 it would bump the price up and roles to sort 1:31:55.960 --> 1:31:59.600 of have a tendency. I think more recently they restrict 1:32:00.360 --> 1:32:02.640 I mean the age of that one makes it collectible, 1:32:02.680 --> 1:32:05.479 and the fact that Paul Newman owned it, but maybe 1:32:05.760 --> 1:32:10.160 tend to restrict supply and push the market and the 1:32:10.280 --> 1:32:13.960 value of their watches in that way. I have heard 1:32:14.080 --> 1:32:17.600 of not one hundred percent that they're getting into possibly 1:32:17.960 --> 1:32:19.640 secondhand watches themselves. 1:32:20.760 --> 1:32:24.160 So do people ever come to you. There's a quaint 1:32:24.240 --> 1:32:26.880 story A lady I know told me a couple of 1:32:26.960 --> 1:32:30.920 years ago. She's very well off herself, but as somebody 1:32:30.960 --> 1:32:35.160 who we could charitably describe as a colorful Sydney identity 1:32:36.160 --> 1:32:40.200 to impress her, apparently had a whole lot more diamonds 1:32:40.720 --> 1:32:43.200 put around the bezel of his rolex. Do you ever 1:32:43.240 --> 1:32:44.200 get that kind of request? 1:32:44.960 --> 1:32:48.080 Look, I don't know. People would go to a lot 1:32:48.520 --> 1:32:53.120 more high for looting establi establishments than mine to have 1:32:53.280 --> 1:32:55.360 that sort of work done. I mean that sort of 1:32:55.520 --> 1:32:59.160 work is the job of a jeweler to set diamonds 1:32:59.200 --> 1:32:59.880 into a watch? 1:33:02.280 --> 1:33:03.639 No, I'm more. 1:33:05.040 --> 1:33:12.400 Repairs, restoration, stainless stainless steel. I don't work. I mean 1:33:12.439 --> 1:33:15.600 I have serviced gold watchers, but I don't work with 1:33:15.720 --> 1:33:17.640 them in that way to put diamonds on them. 1:33:17.720 --> 1:33:17.760 Know. 1:33:18.240 --> 1:33:20.720 Anyway, The punchline to the story was she scoffed at 1:33:20.760 --> 1:33:23.920 it because she thought it was crass, and so it 1:33:23.960 --> 1:33:24.760 didn't work for him. 1:33:25.160 --> 1:33:28.040 Aha, it doesn't always work. 1:33:28.200 --> 1:33:32.240 No, apparently not. But the kind of work that you do, 1:33:32.439 --> 1:33:35.760 I mean, is it draining? Or you've done it for 1:33:35.840 --> 1:33:40.200 fifty three years? Do you love it? Somebody said somewhere 1:33:40.280 --> 1:33:41.200 your second generation? 1:33:41.439 --> 1:33:41.800 Is that right? 1:33:42.040 --> 1:33:42.240 Yeah? 1:33:42.320 --> 1:33:45.720 Look, I haven't done it for fifty three years. The 1:33:45.840 --> 1:33:49.360 shop has been in operation for fifty three years. Okay, 1:33:49.720 --> 1:33:53.960 and Swiss fellow started the shop in seventy two. I 1:33:54.160 --> 1:33:58.760 started working for him in eighty nine. I worked alongside 1:33:58.920 --> 1:34:02.000 him and then we were into partnership, and then when 1:34:02.080 --> 1:34:05.320 he retired, my wife and I bought the business. So 1:34:05.760 --> 1:34:08.320 I did my trade in country New South Wales with 1:34:08.439 --> 1:34:13.600 my father in Waldot and I started my apprenticeship in 1:34:13.720 --> 1:34:16.080 eighty two and that went through to eighty six. So 1:34:16.760 --> 1:34:19.200 I've been added for what's that forty three years. 1:34:20.439 --> 1:34:22.120 It's still pretty decent innings. 1:34:22.720 --> 1:34:25.360 It is a decent innings, yeah, but I really do 1:34:25.600 --> 1:34:28.960 enjoy the work. I don't know if I it'd say 1:34:28.960 --> 1:34:31.439 it's draining. I guess the long hours are draining, which 1:34:31.520 --> 1:34:35.280 is part of the reason why, well, the main reason 1:34:35.320 --> 1:34:38.360 why we've closed the shop. It's not because we're not busy. 1:34:39.240 --> 1:34:42.560 I'm absolutely flat out. I've got that much work that 1:34:42.720 --> 1:34:45.000 I can't keep up with it. I've do long hours, 1:34:45.720 --> 1:34:48.200 and my wife and I've reached the stage in life 1:34:48.240 --> 1:34:50.320 where it's time for us to slow down a little bit. 1:34:50.400 --> 1:34:54.519 We do a thirty kilometer commute each way each day 1:34:54.640 --> 1:34:57.240 and the time is just right, you know. We've got 1:34:57.360 --> 1:35:00.519 more years in the rear view mirror than we coming 1:35:00.560 --> 1:35:03.479 at us through the windscreen. So it's time for us 1:35:03.680 --> 1:35:06.200 to start to get a little bit more leisure in 1:35:06.320 --> 1:35:06.800 our life. 1:35:07.400 --> 1:35:09.360 I don't have one of those great collections like some 1:35:09.520 --> 1:35:12.679 guys you know that have a whole sideboard full of watches. 1:35:12.720 --> 1:35:15.680 But I've got a few, and I mentioned to you 1:35:15.800 --> 1:35:18.680 before we actually started recording, I've got one that I 1:35:18.800 --> 1:35:22.400 bought at auction and I didn't pay much for it. 1:35:23.080 --> 1:35:26.800 But since I bought it, a couple of watchmakers told me, oh, 1:35:26.960 --> 1:35:30.040 you've got to watch here that's got a Rolex movement. 1:35:30.240 --> 1:35:32.839 And I didn't realize that had anything to do with Rolex, 1:35:32.880 --> 1:35:35.320 And like I say, I just bought it at auction 1:35:35.479 --> 1:35:37.639 for not a great deal. On the other hand, I've 1:35:37.680 --> 1:35:39.960 got a watch that I really like the look of 1:35:40.120 --> 1:35:42.880 It looks really fancy to me, and I took it 1:35:42.920 --> 1:35:45.719 to a watchmaker. I said, I think this needs attention. 1:35:45.840 --> 1:35:50.719 It stopped and he said, ah, it's because the movement 1:35:50.800 --> 1:35:52.679 is rubbish. I said, what do you think I should 1:35:52.720 --> 1:35:54.400 do with it? He said, give it to the children 1:35:54.479 --> 1:36:00.479 to play with. But it was really still got it 1:36:00.479 --> 1:36:02.320 because I like the look of it. But it's a 1:36:02.439 --> 1:36:06.240 really well known brand, and I'm surprised to hear the 1:36:06.320 --> 1:36:09.840 guy say the movement is rubbish. So does that mean 1:36:09.880 --> 1:36:13.640 you can't always be sure even though it says the 1:36:13.720 --> 1:36:15.960 brand on the front of the watch of what you're 1:36:15.960 --> 1:36:16.799 getting inside. 1:36:19.840 --> 1:36:22.479 I guess another possibility is that it might be a 1:36:22.640 --> 1:36:26.000 replica or a copy right, and so you might get 1:36:26.040 --> 1:36:29.800 the brand on the dial saying it is such and such. 1:36:29.920 --> 1:36:33.280 But then when the watchmaker opens it, or not even 1:36:33.400 --> 1:36:36.400 needing to open it, sometimes you can't tell from the outside, 1:36:36.439 --> 1:36:38.200 but as soon as you look inside, you know that 1:36:38.320 --> 1:36:41.880 the movement is as described by that watchmaker. 1:36:41.960 --> 1:36:47.400 Perhaps I know somebody in this business. He and I 1:36:47.520 --> 1:36:49.720 are not great mates, but a couple of things he's 1:36:49.840 --> 1:36:52.360 done do make me laugh. He was at lunch with 1:36:52.520 --> 1:36:55.840 somebody who said, and I noticed this. With people who 1:36:55.960 --> 1:36:59.080 knowingly buy a copy of an expensive watch, they feel 1:36:59.120 --> 1:37:02.120 obliged to tell you. Maybe that's because they don't want 1:37:02.160 --> 1:37:04.439 you to think they were taken in by it. Anyway, 1:37:04.520 --> 1:37:08.280 this fellow said, look at this, it's a rolex. You 1:37:08.320 --> 1:37:11.320 can't tell the difference from a real one. And the 1:37:11.400 --> 1:37:13.920 guy I know had a real one, and he said, 1:37:13.960 --> 1:37:15.920 look at this, and he got two glasses of water, 1:37:16.479 --> 1:37:19.519 and he put his real Rolex in one glass and 1:37:19.720 --> 1:37:23.200 the imitation Rolex in the other glass. One of them 1:37:23.280 --> 1:37:24.599 kept on ticking, the other didn't. 1:37:25.320 --> 1:37:29.519 That's possible, he Look, the imitation watches come in varying 1:37:30.400 --> 1:37:33.760 lacks of quality, you can put it that way. Some 1:37:33.920 --> 1:37:38.439 of the imitations maybe water resistant, some of them may 1:37:38.600 --> 1:37:41.719 ask that. Yeah, the quality of a copy watch varies 1:37:41.840 --> 1:37:44.960 from very poor to better. 1:37:46.000 --> 1:37:49.240 Anyway, Nick, there's no doubt, as we've discussed that people 1:37:49.400 --> 1:37:52.479 like watches, particularly men people, and I guess they will 1:37:52.560 --> 1:37:54.880 continue to do so. And there's much more interest in 1:37:55.479 --> 1:37:58.479 a mechanical watch than there is in the kind that 1:37:59.040 --> 1:38:02.599 comes with your eye, although they do good things as well. 1:38:02.640 --> 1:38:04.960 I guess they have their place. 1:38:04.800 --> 1:38:09.040 Yes, indeed, but you're not giving up that you're selling 1:38:09.120 --> 1:38:11.120 up the shop. Why are you selling the shop? It's 1:38:11.200 --> 1:38:13.840 being developed to something the whole more. 1:38:14.200 --> 1:38:20.080 No, look, Neutral Bay is under a redevelopment. I don't 1:38:20.080 --> 1:38:22.519 know if you'd call it a cloud. That's just progress 1:38:22.640 --> 1:38:25.839 living in the city and the need for accommodation, I suppose. 1:38:25.960 --> 1:38:28.360 But there's a lot going on in Neutral Bay that 1:38:28.520 --> 1:38:32.800 my wife and I had made this decision regardless of 1:38:32.880 --> 1:38:36.479 what was going on around it around us. For us, 1:38:36.560 --> 1:38:41.400 it's just time for a change. It's not because we're 1:38:41.439 --> 1:38:44.040 not busy. I'm absolutely flat out at work, as I said, 1:38:44.160 --> 1:38:47.439 So it's more a matter of us just needing to 1:38:47.560 --> 1:38:52.120 slow down and enjoy leisure in our lives rather than 1:38:52.320 --> 1:38:55.760 just working all the time. The shop's busy, it's got 1:38:55.800 --> 1:38:59.640 a loyal clientele, we've got fantastic customers. We're going to 1:38:59.720 --> 1:39:03.000 miss it everyone. It's just time for us to make 1:39:03.040 --> 1:39:07.679 a change. The other thing I guess is that having 1:39:07.760 --> 1:39:11.400 to tend the counter and serve the customers, I can 1:39:11.479 --> 1:39:15.920 spend all day doing small repairs and looking after customers, 1:39:15.960 --> 1:39:18.880 and then I've got a lot of work to do 1:39:19.080 --> 1:39:23.439 servicing and repairing. When I start working at home in 1:39:23.600 --> 1:39:26.560 my workshop, I won't get any interruptions and I'll be 1:39:26.640 --> 1:39:28.640 able to get lots and lots of work done, so 1:39:28.840 --> 1:39:32.040 the turnaround time for anyone that wants to use my 1:39:32.280 --> 1:39:36.479 services will be a lot quicker, and I'll get to 1:39:36.560 --> 1:39:38.839 go for a ride on my pushbike in the morning, 1:39:39.040 --> 1:39:41.719 or go for a coffee with my wife, or walk 1:39:41.800 --> 1:39:44.920 the dog, rather than getting up at four am every 1:39:45.040 --> 1:39:47.759 day to jump in the car to drive from Winston 1:39:47.840 --> 1:39:48.880 Hills to Neutral Bay. 1:39:49.840 --> 1:39:51.880 Sounds like a plan. I wish you well with it. Nick, 1:39:52.000 --> 1:39:53.200 thanks for coming on the program. 1:39:53.800 --> 1:39:55.000 Thanks Mike all the best. 1:39:55.120 --> 1:39:58.640 Thank you Nick Peers. In the second Generation Watchmaker some 1:39:58.800 --> 1:40:01.519 watch Talk, Bruce says, I bought my Pulsar watch in 1:40:01.640 --> 1:40:05.800 nineteen ninety five and it hasn't missed a beat. I 1:40:05.800 --> 1:40:09.519 would only have an analog watch, brackets, none of this 1:40:09.840 --> 1:40:13.799 digital stuff. I don't think I've got my first watch. 1:40:13.880 --> 1:40:17.800 I so pleased to get it. It was an automatic 1:40:17.920 --> 1:40:21.599 you know, when you move your wrist, it automatically wines, 1:40:22.800 --> 1:40:26.240 and yeah, I was very happy to get it. Judy 1:40:26.320 --> 1:40:29.240 says I love watches and have ten. I even have 1:40:29.360 --> 1:40:31.720 my mum's first watch. She saved money when she was 1:40:31.760 --> 1:40:34.640 twenty one bought a first watch. It's small, gold and 1:40:34.720 --> 1:40:38.640 rectangular and has a mother of pearl face and a 1:40:38.720 --> 1:40:42.840 gold chain band. Still keeps good time. My mum would 1:40:42.840 --> 1:40:45.200 have been one hundred and two now, okay, It's nice 1:40:45.720 --> 1:40:49.799 memory to have of your mum. Judy Ben says aDNA 1:40:49.880 --> 1:40:55.519 watches formerly Roma is It Roma, have been a Brisbane 1:40:55.680 --> 1:41:00.400 icon since nineteen seventy three. On Something to and Chris 1:41:00.439 --> 1:41:02.840 says Mike, as you quoted Daniel Andrews, as we build 1:41:02.920 --> 1:41:04.760 dams that want to make it rain. We have a 1:41:04.840 --> 1:41:07.800 desalination plant costing over six hundred million dollars per year 1:41:07.840 --> 1:41:11.160 on maintenance that Labor government built that's not yet been 1:41:11.160 --> 1:41:14.960 put into service. We'll probably age and get decommissioned without 1:41:15.000 --> 1:41:17.160 ever delivering a drop of water. This is what labor 1:41:17.200 --> 1:41:20.800 calls a good investment, says Chris from Laylaw. We really 1:41:21.800 --> 1:41:23.800 ort to pay more attention the people that we let 1:41:23.920 --> 1:41:27.599 put in positions where they can spend our taxpayer dollars. 1:41:29.600 --> 1:41:33.240 It ain't good, Judy says. I'm listening because I wake 1:41:33.320 --> 1:41:35.479 up at two forty five, glad to hear your voice. 1:41:37.080 --> 1:41:41.240 Thank you, Judy for the kind words. Philip, Exactly what 1:41:41.360 --> 1:41:44.639 are you referring to here? That's what you call a weasel? 1:41:44.760 --> 1:41:48.720 Are you talking about the the guy before that the 1:41:48.800 --> 1:41:52.479 neighbors turn his power off and then spit That's what 1:41:52.560 --> 1:41:56.160 he said. Because I'm thinking about that. I mean, isn't 1:41:56.200 --> 1:41:59.400 that something where you call the cops your neighbors are 1:41:59.479 --> 1:42:03.840 turning power off. That isn't the sort of thing you 1:42:03.920 --> 1:42:10.040 should have to put up within a reasonably civilized society. 1:42:10.680 --> 1:42:14.360 And now on Overnight's Entertainment with Alex First. 1:42:14.640 --> 1:42:15.000 Help you. 1:42:21.360 --> 1:42:25.320 Always a good cause, letting us entertain you. Alex First 1:42:25.360 --> 1:42:28.439 as a film, theater and entertainment reviewer and editor of 1:42:28.600 --> 1:42:31.120 I Tell You What I Think dot Com? Good morning, 1:42:31.200 --> 1:42:31.560 How are you? 1:42:32.240 --> 1:42:37.040 I'm well, indeed, and I'm excited because I've seen probably 1:42:37.200 --> 1:42:40.040 the best shark movie since yours. 1:42:40.240 --> 1:42:42.880 Wow, that's a big call, it is, and it's. 1:42:42.720 --> 1:42:45.280 An aussy movie. I just think that is brilliant, because 1:42:46.000 --> 1:42:49.080 what do you think about yours? And all these years later? 1:42:49.439 --> 1:42:51.280 It was so influential, wasn't it. 1:42:51.720 --> 1:42:53.680 Oh? Yes, I remember when I went to see it, 1:42:54.160 --> 1:42:58.120 and I'm not one much for horror, but it was 1:42:58.280 --> 1:43:00.920 just good. Well, what can you say? But it was 1:43:01.040 --> 1:43:02.759 just fun good cheap thrills. 1:43:03.439 --> 1:43:04.600 Oh yeah it was. 1:43:04.840 --> 1:43:07.640 But it was so well made yep as well, And 1:43:08.720 --> 1:43:11.439 it's funny. There are movies that stick with you and 1:43:11.720 --> 1:43:12.800 you'll never forget that. 1:43:13.000 --> 1:43:13.800 This was one of them. 1:43:14.040 --> 1:43:16.960 I remember it scares the living, but Jesus out of 1:43:17.000 --> 1:43:19.240 you when you see it. I mean, Steven Spielberg got 1:43:19.240 --> 1:43:22.920 a great director, he is anyway, But the performance. You 1:43:23.040 --> 1:43:26.160 think about the names, Roy Scheider, Robert Shaw. 1:43:26.040 --> 1:43:28.640 Richard Drave, Yes, that really made it. 1:43:28.960 --> 1:43:31.320 You talk about the scary aspect though I don't know 1:43:31.320 --> 1:43:33.240 whether she was just doing it to humor me, but 1:43:33.360 --> 1:43:36.720 I suspect maybe it did stay with her. One of 1:43:36.760 --> 1:43:38.600 the wives I used to sneak up on her and 1:43:38.680 --> 1:43:41.680 go da da da da dah it and she'd say, 1:43:41.760 --> 1:43:42.280 don't do that. 1:43:43.600 --> 1:43:44.679 Well, that's the other. 1:43:44.600 --> 1:43:48.200 Thing about if you get this right, the scores stays 1:43:48.280 --> 1:43:50.200 with you, and this one did. 1:43:50.840 --> 1:43:50.880 So. 1:43:51.320 --> 1:43:54.040 Look, there's been a lot of other shark movies, and 1:43:54.120 --> 1:43:56.280 then there've been spoofs like Shark Nado. 1:43:56.800 --> 1:43:57.320 That was fun. 1:43:58.040 --> 1:43:58.599 That was fun. 1:43:58.880 --> 1:44:02.760 I agree, And having said that, a lot of people 1:44:02.840 --> 1:44:04.719 don't want to go to the cinema to get scared. 1:44:05.680 --> 1:44:08.680 So there's a decision here when I'm going to talk 1:44:08.680 --> 1:44:11.720 about Dangerous Animals, which is the movie that I'm referring to. 1:44:11.960 --> 1:44:14.560 It's rated with very good reason, and it's got a 1:44:14.640 --> 1:44:17.080 nice running time of ninety eight minutes, so big, big 1:44:17.200 --> 1:44:20.719 picks as far as that's concerned. But you imagine Jaws 1:44:20.880 --> 1:44:24.840 meets Dead Calm, the Nicole Kidman movie, right, and then 1:44:24.880 --> 1:44:30.439 you add steroids, and that's what you get with Dangerous Animals, 1:44:30.640 --> 1:44:34.480 and the direction the script is terrific, but the direction. 1:44:34.320 --> 1:44:35.880 Is really what makes this okay. 1:44:36.000 --> 1:44:41.080 So the Australian act Jy Courtney is just so damn good. Really, 1:44:41.840 --> 1:44:44.080 I suppose you make a name for yourself if you're 1:44:44.120 --> 1:44:47.760 a good baddie. And that's what Gy Courtney is here, 1:44:48.200 --> 1:44:52.679 positively chilling. He plays as roll as a Gold Coast 1:44:52.840 --> 1:44:56.439 charter boat operator by the name of Bruce Tucker, and 1:44:56.560 --> 1:44:59.960 he specializes in taking tourists out the sea and dry 1:45:00.000 --> 1:45:03.040 helping them into the ocean in a shark proof cage 1:45:03.880 --> 1:45:07.479 to watch these apex predators up close and personal. Now, 1:45:07.880 --> 1:45:09.519 I don't know, is that something that you could ever 1:45:09.600 --> 1:45:12.479 contemplate doing. I think it'd be scared witless, but a 1:45:12.520 --> 1:45:14.320 lot of people would get. 1:45:14.240 --> 1:45:14.560 Off on it. 1:45:14.640 --> 1:45:16.000 I don't know, would you do that? 1:45:16.640 --> 1:45:20.200 I did that to a contributor on the Breakfast program 1:45:21.240 --> 1:45:24.800 I was running way back. I put him in the 1:45:24.880 --> 1:45:29.400 shark tank at Manly Aquarium as it was then. 1:45:30.479 --> 1:45:33.599 Really and how was the experience for the person? 1:45:34.160 --> 1:45:36.120 Well, it certainly generated a lot of interest. 1:45:37.439 --> 1:45:39.960 I was going to say a change of clothing. Perhaps. 1:45:41.640 --> 1:45:46.679 Having said that, we basically witness what this character Bruce 1:45:46.760 --> 1:45:52.080 Tucker does when a couple of people who tourists won 1:45:52.240 --> 1:45:54.920 a Canadian and the other a brit They take the 1:45:55.040 --> 1:45:56.800 plunge and they were going. 1:45:56.720 --> 1:45:57.599 To go to Sea World. 1:45:57.760 --> 1:46:00.080 I mean they missed the boat, so to speak, and 1:46:00.120 --> 1:46:03.760 they decided to try this whole operation with the charter 1:46:03.840 --> 1:46:06.880 boat operator. Anyway, there's more to this guy than meets 1:46:06.960 --> 1:46:10.840 the eye. And that's when you get the introduction of 1:46:11.040 --> 1:46:14.320 an American, a strong world American called Zephyr. I kind 1:46:14.360 --> 1:46:15.000 of like that name. 1:46:15.160 --> 1:46:19.400 Z Thyr used to be a car whee all craved 1:46:19.840 --> 1:46:21.160 called Afford zephyrt. 1:46:21.320 --> 1:46:24.560 Correct, yeah, exactly, played by Hasse Harrison. And she's a 1:46:24.640 --> 1:46:28.320 loaner with quite a harsh background and she's trying to 1:46:28.360 --> 1:46:32.400 sort of well leave behind the bad experiences in America. 1:46:32.600 --> 1:46:35.200 She's come out to Australia to serve and she has 1:46:35.240 --> 1:46:38.639 a chance meeting with a real estate salesman called Moses 1:46:38.960 --> 1:46:42.000 played by Josh Houston, and he's trying to buy some 1:46:42.120 --> 1:46:45.240 jumper leeds to start his car, and Zephyr is kind 1:46:45.240 --> 1:46:47.680 of wary of him, but in time she warms to 1:46:47.800 --> 1:46:51.160 him and the pair ends up making out. Now she's 1:46:51.200 --> 1:46:53.400 not looking for any tie. She, as I said, is 1:46:53.400 --> 1:46:57.840 a loaner and she leaves before dawn after the two 1:46:57.880 --> 1:47:01.080 have got together, so she hits the road battered camper van, 1:47:01.320 --> 1:47:04.240 that's what she calls home in Australia, and she leaves 1:47:04.479 --> 1:47:07.840 Moses without so much as a goodbye. The next thing 1:47:07.920 --> 1:47:12.280 you know, she's prevailing upon this shutterboat operator Bruce Tucker 1:47:12.720 --> 1:47:17.040 before daylight. What's called a fin key. Now, if you're 1:47:17.040 --> 1:47:20.080 not a surfer, you screw fins into the tail of 1:47:20.160 --> 1:47:22.160 the surfboard. That's why you need a fin key. 1:47:23.200 --> 1:47:25.320 And that's when the real drama. 1:47:25.040 --> 1:47:30.200 Begins in Dangerous Animals, because the seemingly affable Tucker is 1:47:30.360 --> 1:47:35.559 anything but he is in fact a serial killer who 1:47:35.800 --> 1:47:38.960 likes trapping women and feeding them to the sharks. 1:47:39.080 --> 1:47:41.879 Hmm, it seems like you've trouble. 1:47:41.680 --> 1:47:44.439 To go too, but yeah, well yeah, all the while 1:47:44.600 --> 1:47:50.080 filming their agonizing final moments, you don't right. And Zephyr 1:47:50.280 --> 1:47:54.200 fortunately is a real fighter who, despite the position in 1:47:54.320 --> 1:47:57.679 which she is in, she isn't going to go down 1:47:57.840 --> 1:48:01.560 without an almighty struggle. And that's what makes Dangerous Animals 1:48:02.080 --> 1:48:04.439 such a good film. And the writer is a guy 1:48:04.479 --> 1:48:08.280 called Nick Leopard, and it's quite an outrageous screenplay. So 1:48:08.640 --> 1:48:11.880 this is not conventional and it benefits from all these 1:48:12.000 --> 1:48:15.280 twists that just keep on coming, which I love. So 1:48:15.760 --> 1:48:18.240 you think the first hour is twisted, but you ain't 1:48:18.280 --> 1:48:20.840 see nothing yet wait for the last forty minutes, is 1:48:20.840 --> 1:48:23.920 all I can say. And it really pushes the boundaries. 1:48:24.479 --> 1:48:28.080 It's far fetched, yes, it's preposterous, yes, but there's much 1:48:28.160 --> 1:48:32.120 about it that is original. It's creative and I love that. 1:48:32.400 --> 1:48:36.000 And the acting is really good. I've already said Courtney 1:48:36.040 --> 1:48:39.160 is terrific. I mean he orchestraates well, that the character 1:48:40.080 --> 1:48:42.519 he plays, he orchestrates kills with a. 1:48:42.600 --> 1:48:43.599 Smile on his face. 1:48:44.200 --> 1:48:46.000 And how else can I put this? 1:48:46.200 --> 1:48:51.160 He takes pride in his work. Now, a lot of 1:48:51.200 --> 1:48:52.599 people have turned off around about now. 1:48:52.680 --> 1:48:54.680 I get that, but I don't know that there will 1:48:54.680 --> 1:48:57.800 be people who will really like to go see this. 1:48:58.080 --> 1:49:00.519 So on the horror films go or what do you 1:49:00.600 --> 1:49:00.800 give it? 1:49:01.360 --> 1:49:03.719 Well, I was going to say, Hattie Harrison's really potent 1:49:03.840 --> 1:49:07.360 and highly pragmatic as the loaner Zephyr, and she sort 1:49:07.360 --> 1:49:10.280 of brings attitude to Burn, So look good on the 1:49:10.360 --> 1:49:13.759 director Sean burn Milk the radical conceit for all Agaan, 1:49:14.160 --> 1:49:16.720 and the tension is palpable. I reckon this is really 1:49:16.840 --> 1:49:20.040 it's provocative and grizzly, so seven and a half, maybe 1:49:20.160 --> 1:49:23.080 even pushing an eight out of ten from movie that 1:49:23.240 --> 1:49:25.400 is going to appeal to some. It's right at Ma 1:49:25.640 --> 1:49:26.639 again ninety eight minutes. 1:49:26.760 --> 1:49:29.679 Dangerous animals, dangerous animals. I was thinking about your question 1:49:29.840 --> 1:49:32.559 of me, you know, sending the guy to the shark 1:49:32.600 --> 1:49:35.360 tank and the manly aquarium. Would I do it myself? 1:49:35.560 --> 1:49:37.920 Let me just say this to you, Alex. It was 1:49:38.000 --> 1:49:39.519 a good day for me in my life when I 1:49:39.640 --> 1:49:43.560 learned to delegate. Now what about materialists? 1:49:44.200 --> 1:49:47.839 Well, how difficult? And you can answer this, how difficult 1:49:47.920 --> 1:49:49.439 is it to find your perfect match? 1:49:50.360 --> 1:49:54.600 Ah? Gee, I don't know you have a perfect Do you. 1:49:54.680 --> 1:49:56.240 Have a perfect match? That's the first question. 1:49:56.960 --> 1:49:59.560 Well not at the moment, but I suppose over the 1:49:59.680 --> 1:50:03.280 years I have had, But you know they weren't forever 1:50:03.439 --> 1:50:04.200 perfect matches. 1:50:04.640 --> 1:50:06.960 And that's the point. So look, if you to buy, 1:50:07.120 --> 1:50:09.640 if you were to buy into the conceit of materialists 1:50:10.000 --> 1:50:14.040 in rateed one hundred and seventeen minutes, then you're basically 1:50:14.439 --> 1:50:18.479 using the term shark again. It's a shark pool out there, 1:50:18.960 --> 1:50:22.400 and finding mister Omer's right is the stuff of nightmares. 1:50:22.920 --> 1:50:26.280 And that's why they turned to this matchmaker Matchmaker Extraordinary 1:50:26.320 --> 1:50:30.040 called Lucy played by Dakota Johnson. She really is a 1:50:30.120 --> 1:50:33.439 smooth operator in this space, and she's got a great 1:50:33.520 --> 1:50:36.639 track record, good patter, and the firm that she works 1:50:36.680 --> 1:50:40.320 for has just celebrated her ninth marriage of couples that 1:50:40.760 --> 1:50:45.000 she's matched and her boss recognizes a talent for bringing 1:50:45.040 --> 1:50:48.439 people together. She though, is thirty five years of age 1:50:48.600 --> 1:50:53.160 and single in spite of everything that she does for others, 1:50:53.720 --> 1:50:57.960 and she's basically only prepared to hitch her wagon as 1:50:58.000 --> 1:51:02.679 the expression goes to somebody who is uber wealthy, Oh yeah, okay, 1:51:03.320 --> 1:51:05.599 And so at the wedding of a ninth match she's 1:51:05.720 --> 1:51:09.120 hit upon by a debonair rich guy. He's a financier 1:51:09.439 --> 1:51:12.400 played by Pedro pescal and he happens to be the 1:51:12.479 --> 1:51:16.720 brother of the groom, and although she is determined to 1:51:16.800 --> 1:51:20.280 keep her distance, he woos her and the two do 1:51:20.479 --> 1:51:24.800 get it together. At the same time, she bumps into 1:51:24.880 --> 1:51:29.120 her ex of five years, whom she hasn't seen for ages, 1:51:29.600 --> 1:51:31.760 and this is played by Chris Evans, and he's a 1:51:31.800 --> 1:51:37.120 struggling theater actor who just gets by taking hospitality jobs. 1:51:37.320 --> 1:51:39.000 And one of those happens to be at this wedding, 1:51:39.479 --> 1:51:43.000 and he lives in this tiny, dirty apartment with a 1:51:43.040 --> 1:51:46.880 couple of roommates who don't respect each other's personal space. Now, 1:51:47.040 --> 1:51:51.320 Lucy broke up with Lucy's the character played by Dakota 1:51:51.360 --> 1:51:54.720 Johnson broke up with the Chris Evans character because he 1:51:55.080 --> 1:51:59.360 was and remains poor. But there's still a spark between 1:51:59.400 --> 1:52:04.240 them then, and this is the kicker among those for 1:52:04.320 --> 1:52:06.760 whom Lucy's finding it hard to find a soul mate 1:52:06.960 --> 1:52:09.639 is a thirty nine year old woman. And then something 1:52:09.760 --> 1:52:14.200 happens to this woman that shatters her and also Lucy, 1:52:14.560 --> 1:52:16.800 and trying to deal with that is going to test 1:52:16.880 --> 1:52:20.200 both of them. So the first film by this director 1:52:20.360 --> 1:52:23.519 and writer, her name is Celine's Song was a ripper. 1:52:23.600 --> 1:52:26.400 It's called Past Lives. You haven't seen it well worth 1:52:26.439 --> 1:52:30.080 seeing its original and it looked and felt real, and 1:52:30.200 --> 1:52:33.599 it dealt with childhood friends reuniting many many years later 1:52:33.720 --> 1:52:38.200 as adults. I'm afraid I found Materialist less convincing. It 1:52:38.240 --> 1:52:41.120 took a while to settle and actually to take off, 1:52:41.840 --> 1:52:44.800 and even though there were some light bulb moments, and 1:52:45.200 --> 1:52:48.519 certainly there were, overall I thought it was slow, It 1:52:48.680 --> 1:52:51.560 was awkward, ultimately too long. It didn't need to be 1:52:51.600 --> 1:52:54.600 a couple of hours, and the dialogue sounded like a 1:52:54.680 --> 1:52:57.920 series of feel good cliches. Nor was I convinced by 1:52:57.960 --> 1:53:01.679 the characterizations of any of the major players. They sort 1:53:01.680 --> 1:53:03.840 of It felt like a try hard movie, if that 1:53:03.960 --> 1:53:07.960 makes sense. And my biggest criticism is that this movie 1:53:08.080 --> 1:53:11.080 never really settled on what it wanted to be. Either 1:53:11.360 --> 1:53:14.920 a hard drama, a rom com, may be a straight 1:53:14.960 --> 1:53:18.360 out love story. So it had elements of each of them, 1:53:18.760 --> 1:53:22.800 and it lurched from one to another and then back again. Now, Okay, I'm, 1:53:23.200 --> 1:53:25.439 of course a middle aged white guy. I get that, 1:53:25.680 --> 1:53:28.879 so maybe I'm not the right target audience. But in fairness, 1:53:29.720 --> 1:53:32.600 I generally like chick flicks, which this one is, and 1:53:32.720 --> 1:53:35.320 I like it probably more than the next bloke. You know, 1:53:35.880 --> 1:53:39.000 I kind of get off on some of these. But 1:53:40.479 --> 1:53:43.000 I'm not saying don't see the material. Is what I'm 1:53:43.040 --> 1:53:45.720 saying is when you went to the cinema to see it, 1:53:46.720 --> 1:53:49.920 a level of healthy cynicism is not a bad thing 1:53:50.000 --> 1:53:53.839 to take in there, and then you can appreciate elements 1:53:53.880 --> 1:53:56.240 of it. And it was kind of fascinating to me 1:53:56.360 --> 1:53:58.960 because I spoke to a number of others who saw 1:53:59.080 --> 1:54:02.879 it with me at a media preview, and they enjoyed 1:54:02.920 --> 1:54:05.760 it much more than I did. I just, I just 1:54:06.360 --> 1:54:09.720 it was such a strong opening film for Celene Song, 1:54:09.840 --> 1:54:12.720 the first movie that you kind of have expectations of 1:54:12.800 --> 1:54:15.160 the second one, and this doesn't quite live. 1:54:15.160 --> 1:54:15.439 Up to it. 1:54:15.760 --> 1:54:17.160 Okay, what did you give it? In the end? 1:54:17.880 --> 1:54:18.040 Look? 1:54:18.160 --> 1:54:20.200 Probably a six to six and a half out of 1:54:20.280 --> 1:54:23.360 ten for some materialists. M rated one hundred and seventeen minutes. 1:54:23.560 --> 1:54:25.920 Not a bad film, but not what I would call 1:54:25.960 --> 1:54:26.599 a great movie. 1:54:27.360 --> 1:54:28.920 Okay, Alex, we'll talk to you next week. 1:54:29.640 --> 1:54:30.920 Always good to talk. 1:54:30.840 --> 1:54:33.040 And go out and see a movie if you haven't 1:54:33.040 --> 1:54:34.840 seen one for a while. Don't just sit at home 1:54:34.920 --> 1:54:37.400 and watch it on streaming. You know, support the cinemas. 1:54:38.000 --> 1:54:41.360 Alex is a film, theater and entertainment reviewer and editor. 1:54:41.400 --> 1:54:44.080 I tell you what I think. Dot com good morning. 1:54:44.320 --> 1:54:47.800 We will have the news for you at three o'clock 1:54:49.520 --> 1:54:53.879 Australian Eastern Standard time. May not apply to all listeners 1:54:54.520 --> 1:54:58.720 that time. Here's something If only Dale had known about this. 1:54:58.840 --> 1:55:01.520 You know, Dale was with Crooked during the week, but 1:55:02.400 --> 1:55:07.160 he's better now. He says he could have gone to 1:55:07.240 --> 1:55:13.200 this Filipino healer. She treats sick people with pit viper bites. 1:55:13.920 --> 1:55:15.560 It seems a bit cruel, isn't it. I mean, you're 1:55:15.560 --> 1:55:17.440 already not feeling well, and then you go to this 1:55:17.520 --> 1:55:20.080 person to be cured and you get, as part of 1:55:20.160 --> 1:55:25.400 your treatment, bitten by a venomous pit viper. Her name 1:55:25.520 --> 1:55:32.000 is Rosalio Kulit, also known as Dautu Canandag among his 1:55:32.080 --> 1:55:36.760 fellow Minobo tribe members in Surigao del Norte and Mindanao, 1:55:37.720 --> 1:55:41.360 a controversial, no kidding HeLa who uses viper venom to 1:55:41.400 --> 1:55:44.920 treat various ailments. He claims he only discovered the curitive 1:55:44.920 --> 1:55:48.080 properties of snake venom by accident, after being bitten by 1:55:48.360 --> 1:55:51.720 one of his pet pit vipers many years ago. At 1:55:51.760 --> 1:55:55.680 the time, he was battling several illnesses, but just days 1:55:55.720 --> 1:55:57.760 after being bitten by the snake, he felt a lot better, 1:55:58.960 --> 1:56:02.320 so he deduced the bite had cured him. Maybe all 1:56:02.360 --> 1:56:05.640 the viruses just gave up. God can't compete with his stuff. 1:56:05.760 --> 1:56:16.640 This viper venom, the pit viper Latin name tropidi lemus supernalutus. 1:56:18.080 --> 1:56:21.440 I know you really needed that to take notes. Venom 1:56:21.480 --> 1:56:23.480 ever since has made a name for himself as a 1:56:24.040 --> 1:56:28.600 snake healer. There's a picture here of a pit viper. 1:56:29.840 --> 1:56:36.400 It doesn't look like it's got your best at heart. 1:56:39.000 --> 1:56:45.520 He's I think I've confused my quirkies here. This seems unfair. 1:56:45.600 --> 1:56:49.320 A huge alligator has been cited for suspicion of being 1:56:49.360 --> 1:56:53.320 a dinosaur in North Carolina. I thought they were dinosaurs. 1:56:53.520 --> 1:56:56.560 I thought they'd been around that long. A North Carolina 1:56:56.640 --> 1:56:58.800 Sheriff's office assisted with the capture of a nearly four 1:56:58.840 --> 1:57:01.839 hundred pound alligator and joked that the reptile was cited 1:57:01.880 --> 1:57:06.720 for suspicion of being a dinosaur without proper papers. Man, 1:57:06.840 --> 1:57:10.560 It's getting tough in the US, isn't it. Yeah, I 1:57:10.600 --> 1:57:12.120 told you about a comic I wanted to come on 1:57:12.160 --> 1:57:14.960 the program, but he's going to the US and he 1:57:15.080 --> 1:57:19.280 doesn't want to say anything that might anyway be used 1:57:19.280 --> 1:57:23.480 against him, like appearing on the radio or the shock jock. 1:57:23.560 --> 1:57:28.200 I guess the Onslow County Sheriff's Office said on social media. 1:57:28.240 --> 1:57:32.920 The deputies responded alongside North Carolina Wildlife Resources personnel when 1:57:32.960 --> 1:57:37.720 the prehistoric purp unquote was caught loitery near the double 1:57:37.800 --> 1:57:42.680 yellow line on an Old thirty road. It is a 1:57:42.720 --> 1:57:47.120 pretty big beast, got a giant mouth and jaws. I mean, 1:57:47.160 --> 1:57:48.960 I know you expect that to some extent, but this 1:57:49.080 --> 1:57:53.400 one seems to be an extreme example. The alligator, dubbed 1:57:53.520 --> 1:57:57.360 Pepe by the Sheriff's office, was estimated way between three 1:57:57.440 --> 1:57:59.600 hundred and fifty to four hundred pounds. I've forgotten what 1:57:59.680 --> 1:58:02.360 that is in metric, but it's a lot. The nearly 1:58:02.600 --> 1:58:05.320 ten foot reptile, yeah I know what ten foot is, 1:58:05.400 --> 1:58:08.640 more or less, has been sucided for suspicion of being 1:58:08.680 --> 1:58:12.680 a dinosaur without proper papers, public loitering with intent to sunbathe, 1:58:13.080 --> 1:58:18.440 and obstructing traffic. The Sheriff's offace said they're wags, aren't they. 1:58:19.160 --> 1:58:23.360 In the North Carolina Sheriff's Office officials write the alligator 1:58:23.400 --> 1:58:28.800 was safely relocated with no injuries to humans or reptiles. Well, 1:58:28.840 --> 1:58:34.320 that was a nice result. His way to spend your life. 1:58:35.440 --> 1:58:38.240 A Swiss man has been buried in snow for two 1:58:38.320 --> 1:58:42.320 hours to break a world record. He put his cold 1:58:42.440 --> 1:58:44.800 endurance to the test and broke a Guinness World record 1:58:44.840 --> 1:58:47.760 by spending more than two hours buried in the snow 1:58:49.000 --> 1:58:51.240 while wearing only his swimming trunks. 1:58:52.360 --> 1:58:52.760 MM hmm. 1:58:53.760 --> 1:58:58.040 His name is Sir Elias Meyer, a competitive powerlifter, said 1:58:58.120 --> 1:59:00.240 he decided to take on the title for the lowest 1:59:00.280 --> 1:59:03.440 time spent in direct full body contact with snow after 1:59:03.560 --> 1:59:06.120 discovering no one had yet cracked the two hour mark. 1:59:07.160 --> 1:59:10.480 The previous record, said by a Polish man Valre and 1:59:10.880 --> 1:59:15.800 Romanovski in twenty twenty two, stood it an now forty 1:59:15.840 --> 1:59:19.120 five minutes and two seconds. So this guy, wearing only 1:59:19.200 --> 1:59:21.840 the swimsuit, was buried under a mound of snow for 1:59:21.960 --> 1:59:25.240 two hours and seven seconds. He said. The col bothered 1:59:25.320 --> 1:59:27.040 him less than the weight of the snow pressing down 1:59:27.080 --> 1:59:29.480 on him. The heavy snow pressed me down, caused my 1:59:29.600 --> 1:59:33.840 shoulders and elbows to ache. Perhaps you feel a sharp 1:59:33.920 --> 1:59:38.160 ice cube against your back with no chance to do 1:59:38.240 --> 1:59:42.520 anything about it, You can only be thankful for everything, 1:59:43.320 --> 1:59:46.680 he wrote on Instagram. Like I say, I mean, it's good. 1:59:46.720 --> 1:59:48.320 He's wasting his life. 1:59:52.640 --> 1:59:56.760 Now on two GB, four BC and network stations. Go 1:59:57.000 --> 1:59:59.920 back to us right you're overnight with Mike Jeffrey. 2:00:01.160 --> 2:00:04.400 Good morning. Here's a text from Susan says, this morning, 2:00:04.480 --> 2:00:06.840 Mike enjoining your show this morning as always. Thank you Susan, 2:00:07.200 --> 2:00:10.880 so glad you and dale On and that shark movie 2:00:11.160 --> 2:00:17.680 sounds like a comedy, really pretty grim comedy, if that's 2:00:17.720 --> 2:00:20.360 the way you see it. The shark movie sounds like 2:00:20.440 --> 2:00:23.880 a comedy. Well, I suppose depends what you see as 2:00:24.000 --> 2:00:30.560 being amusing women being ripped apart by sharks. Maybe JJ 2:00:30.720 --> 2:00:33.840 would like that. Listen to this, JJ, You know JJ 2:00:34.080 --> 2:00:38.520 sends in texts here he's talking about the viper treatment. 2:00:39.240 --> 2:00:42.760 Bitten by a viper Mike. Surely it couldn't be any 2:00:42.800 --> 2:00:47.000 worse than being kissed by an unfaithful woman, says JJ. 2:00:49.440 --> 2:00:52.760 What are you telling us, JJ, that there's been heartbreak 2:00:53.840 --> 2:00:58.680 in your past that's left you broken and angry? 2:01:00.080 --> 2:01:00.320 Or you. 2:01:02.000 --> 2:01:08.920 Just confusing your Shakespeare? You know the phrase how sharper 2:01:09.000 --> 2:01:11.880 than a serpent's tooth it is to have a thankless child? 2:01:13.560 --> 2:01:16.640 That's from King Lear. But you knew that. 2:01:18.120 --> 2:01:18.360 JJ. 2:01:18.400 --> 2:01:20.160 I also says, buried a nice mike to keep his 2:01:20.240 --> 2:01:22.160 mind busy for a couple of hours that he was buried. 2:01:22.720 --> 2:01:29.839 This fellow might have recited wordsworth trip up Mount Snowden 2:01:29.880 --> 2:01:33.680 in his prelude, I mean book the fourteenth. Thus, in 2:01:33.760 --> 2:01:37.160 one of those excursions made their near fade from remembrance 2:01:37.920 --> 2:01:42.360 through the Northern tracts of Cambria, ranging with a youthful friend. 2:01:42.960 --> 2:01:47.720 I left Bethel Glert's huts at couching time and westward 2:01:47.800 --> 2:01:50.320 took my way to see the sunrise from the top 2:01:50.360 --> 2:01:55.160 of Snowden. Beth Gelert. That's a good name. I'm not 2:01:55.320 --> 2:01:59.280 familiar with that piece, JJ, but you know me, I 2:02:00.280 --> 2:02:05.760 did leave school at fifteen. Not my idea, but I 2:02:05.920 --> 2:02:09.839 kind of agree though. What was that movie Night Crawler? 2:02:11.040 --> 2:02:14.200 And one of the characters in that who went from 2:02:14.320 --> 2:02:20.360 being a small time criminal to providing horror stories for 2:02:20.400 --> 2:02:24.640 a tabloid TV show said of this age, it's all 2:02:24.920 --> 2:02:27.560 out there if you want to go look for it. Yeah, 2:02:27.840 --> 2:02:34.440 I agree with that, Yes, etc. Yes, all right, thank 2:02:34.440 --> 2:02:35.280 you for that, jah Jay. 2:02:36.120 --> 2:02:36.680 How about this? 2:02:37.200 --> 2:02:43.520 These Chinese Shanghai authorities recently moved a traditional Sheikerman style 2:02:43.640 --> 2:02:47.400 building complex at a pace of ten meters per day 2:02:48.080 --> 2:02:50.240 with the help of an army of four hundred and 2:02:50.320 --> 2:02:55.440 thirty two hydraulic powered robots. The headline is Chinese city 2:02:55.520 --> 2:03:02.080 moves entire historic neighborhood using hundreds of hydraulic legs. The 2:03:04.360 --> 2:03:12.839 Hawanli complex, located within xiang Yuan in Shanghai's Jing'an district 2:03:12.920 --> 2:03:16.640 has been touted as China's largest relocation project of its 2:03:16.920 --> 2:03:21.160 ti kind, both in terms of size and complexity. The 2:03:21.240 --> 2:03:23.720 tight layout of the building complex, which dates back to 2:03:23.800 --> 2:03:28.160 the twenties and thirties, made traditional construction and relocation tools 2:03:28.320 --> 2:03:32.880 virtually unusable. But authorities need to weigh to move the 2:03:33.120 --> 2:03:35.960 entire block several hundred meters for the construction of a 2:03:36.040 --> 2:03:39.920 three story underground structure, it required all sorts of advanced 2:03:39.960 --> 2:03:45.640 technology that allowed the team in charge to temporarily relocate 2:03:45.960 --> 2:03:51.280 the seven half thousand metric ton four thousand thirty square 2:03:51.320 --> 2:03:57.680 meter building complex. So they used these hydraulic jacks, hydraulic legs. 2:03:57.840 --> 2:04:02.200 Like the headline says, they use building information modeling in 2:04:02.240 --> 2:04:06.200 point cloud scanning technologies to create detailed three D blueprints 2:04:06.240 --> 2:04:12.360 and goes on and on with engineering detail. Speaking of 2:04:12.440 --> 2:04:17.000 engineering detail, I kind of look forward to this. You know, 2:04:18.120 --> 2:04:23.480 some of the car parks I use are reasonably accessible. 2:04:24.320 --> 2:04:29.240 You know, they're wide enough, others not so much. Not 2:04:29.360 --> 2:04:32.920 much room to open the door, even on the medium 2:04:33.000 --> 2:04:36.240 sized sedan, and you've got to get in and out, 2:04:36.600 --> 2:04:38.040 and there's not a lot of room to do that. 2:04:38.520 --> 2:04:40.920 And there are other people who are trying to do 2:04:41.040 --> 2:04:45.200 similar things. But now the South Korean car manufacturing giant 2:04:45.320 --> 2:04:50.480 Hyondai has developed an intriguing parking robot that can park 2:04:50.520 --> 2:04:55.640 your car better than any human valet ever could. Car 2:04:55.760 --> 2:04:59.040 companies have invested billions of dollars into advanced automated parking 2:04:59.120 --> 2:05:02.800 solutions to really human drivers of this stress of parallel 2:05:02.920 --> 2:05:07.400 parking or backing up into tight spaces. Some systems have 2:05:07.520 --> 2:05:09.480 turned out better than others, but unless you were willing 2:05:09.520 --> 2:05:12.240 to pay a fair bit extra for an advanced system, 2:05:12.280 --> 2:05:15.960 you're stuck with your own human parking skills. But what 2:05:16.160 --> 2:05:17.640 if there was a way to have your old or 2:05:17.760 --> 2:05:21.360 cheap car parked automatically without even having to keep the 2:05:21.400 --> 2:05:25.960 engine running. Yondo's developed an ingenious parking robot that can 2:05:26.120 --> 2:05:31.480 glide under virtually any kind of car, lift its wheels, 2:05:32.200 --> 2:05:36.880 and then park it perfectly in a designated parking spot. Yeah, 2:05:37.680 --> 2:05:42.120 I'm with them. I think that that's a good idea. 2:05:43.800 --> 2:05:46.720 Jeffrey from the non US Beverly Hills says, when I 2:05:46.800 --> 2:05:50.040 saw the trailer for the Shark movie, I thought it 2:05:50.160 --> 2:05:56.560 was a comedy too. Okay, well maybe you know. It 2:05:56.640 --> 2:05:58.560 depends on what makes you laugh. Did you think it 2:05:58.640 --> 2:06:01.640 was a comedy, he said to Dale, his associate. 2:06:02.200 --> 2:06:03.600 No, no, no, no no. 2:06:04.600 --> 2:06:07.560 He shook his head, which, of course is a gesture 2:06:07.600 --> 2:06:11.680 that always works well on the radio. A couple of things. 2:06:11.720 --> 2:06:16.400 Before you adopt your National Days persona, adopting your film 2:06:16.440 --> 2:06:21.920 critic persona, you can understand why a listener thought that 2:06:22.160 --> 2:06:26.440 the what's it called the animals movie? Yeah, Dangerous Animals, 2:06:26.520 --> 2:06:27.880 Dangerous Animals was a comedy. 2:06:28.680 --> 2:06:32.560 Look, I don't know. It certainly doesn't it's certainly not 2:06:32.640 --> 2:06:36.320 a comedy. But Jai Courtney in it, who plays the 2:06:36.960 --> 2:06:42.760 serial killer, is such a congenial. But also he looks 2:06:42.800 --> 2:06:46.640 like he's having so much fun doing the nasty things 2:06:46.720 --> 2:06:49.600 he's doing. Maybe the trailer shows him like with the 2:06:49.640 --> 2:06:51.640 big you know, the big laugh and the big smile 2:06:51.720 --> 2:06:56.080 on his face while he's doing these nasty deeds. About 2:06:56.120 --> 2:06:58.080 the only thing I can think of, because I had 2:06:58.160 --> 2:07:01.880 seen the trailer only probably only in the last week, 2:07:02.120 --> 2:07:04.200 and it started the Thursday, and it was only a 2:07:04.240 --> 2:07:06.360 couple of days beforehand. I saw the trail and thought, oh, 2:07:06.440 --> 2:07:10.400 this looks interesting because it's beautifully photographed. It's and the 2:07:11.120 --> 2:07:13.560 like the shark footage, and that is quite good. It's 2:07:13.640 --> 2:07:18.280 no like animatronics and things. They there's only I do 2:07:18.440 --> 2:07:20.880 want to go into too much detail. There's there's one shot. 2:07:20.920 --> 2:07:22.800 I think, oh that looks a bit dodgy, but otherwise 2:07:22.840 --> 2:07:23.839 it looks terrific. 2:07:23.960 --> 2:07:26.360 Hmm, okay, but not a comedy. 2:07:26.560 --> 2:07:31.960 No no no, speaking of that, well, no no no, 2:07:33.800 --> 2:07:35.920 we'll see no no cat thinks it's no no for 2:07:36.000 --> 2:07:36.640 a comedy too. 2:07:37.120 --> 2:07:39.880 Well, Mick was asking, whereas the no no cat just 2:07:39.960 --> 2:07:42.800 heard Mike's clearest no no, no ever and no cat 2:07:43.200 --> 2:07:46.280 that we did bring it in non queue there with 2:07:46.480 --> 2:07:47.800 dale por no no cat. 2:07:48.520 --> 2:07:49.760 Well, I'm no longer with us. 2:07:50.080 --> 2:07:52.320 I'm a bit worried about this, this cat that I'm 2:07:52.360 --> 2:07:55.320 minding for a lady friend, because it was so happy. 2:07:56.080 --> 2:07:58.600 You know those little oil column heaters. I turned on 2:07:58.680 --> 2:08:01.040 one of those in the cat discovered it's such a 2:08:01.120 --> 2:08:04.360 lovely warm spot. It's so happy being near the heater. 2:08:05.440 --> 2:08:07.840 And when I came into work, I thought, well, I 2:08:07.960 --> 2:08:11.160 leave it like that. No, I don't burn the house down, 2:08:12.040 --> 2:08:14.720 and so I turned it off. But it takes a 2:08:14.760 --> 2:08:16.880 while for it to cool down. But I'm thinking of 2:08:16.960 --> 2:08:19.840 the poor cat. So a li'll slowly cool down and 2:08:19.880 --> 2:08:22.760 the cat will think, why have you deserted me in 2:08:22.880 --> 2:08:23.600 my hour of need. 2:08:24.360 --> 2:08:26.880 Our heads are pretty safe, though, I mean, you certainly 2:08:26.920 --> 2:08:30.400 wouldn't leave one of those bar heaters on. I wouldn't know, no, 2:08:30.960 --> 2:08:32.560 But then again, I wouldn't leave a heater on if 2:08:32.600 --> 2:08:33.400 I wasn't in the house. 2:08:33.640 --> 2:08:35.800 Well, that's for the sake of the cats. I'd be tempted, 2:08:36.080 --> 2:08:38.440 That's what I thought. I mean, the cat seem so happy. 2:08:38.520 --> 2:08:40.720 I was tempted. But in the end I thought, no 2:08:41.560 --> 2:08:45.640 safety provided. No, no, no, no, no, We've had enough 2:08:45.720 --> 2:08:48.800 no notice for the moment. Let's have this National Days 2:08:49.160 --> 2:08:50.720 brought to you by Tim Tams. 2:08:51.160 --> 2:08:53.400 Nothing goes down better in the middle of the night 2:08:53.560 --> 2:08:54.880 than a beautiful Tim. 2:08:54.840 --> 2:09:05.840 Tam and a nice cup of tea. So you got 2:09:05.880 --> 2:09:06.680 some National Days. 2:09:07.120 --> 2:09:11.800 Oh Fudge Fudge Day, Yes, today's Fudge Day can be 2:09:11.840 --> 2:09:16.880 closed fudge because it's funny the term of fudge. When 2:09:17.280 --> 2:09:19.840 something goes wrong with your fudge, something it actually ties 2:09:19.880 --> 2:09:21.560 in with how it came about. 2:09:21.760 --> 2:09:22.000 Really. 2:09:22.640 --> 2:09:25.720 Yeah, but you know there's a lot of eyes like fudge. 2:09:26.040 --> 2:09:28.200 There used to be a when I worked at road 2:09:28.240 --> 2:09:30.680 show down at Darling Harbor, when they actually had a 2:09:30.720 --> 2:09:32.920 big shopping thing down at Darling Harbor, they pulled it 2:09:32.960 --> 2:09:35.160 all down. Now, there was a little fudge shop there 2:09:35.200 --> 2:09:39.480 and it had samples, so we used to unobtrusively during lunchtime, 2:09:39.680 --> 2:09:44.280 just walk past and then walk back again five minutes. 2:09:44.280 --> 2:09:46.080 Oh, Nick, your fudge. 2:09:46.240 --> 2:09:48.600 Oh yeah, but the fudge a really good fudge. You 2:09:48.600 --> 2:09:50.280 wouldn't want to eat too much of it anyway. You 2:09:50.400 --> 2:09:52.520 have to eat it in tiny bits because it's just 2:09:52.760 --> 2:09:54.600 so so sweet. 2:09:55.560 --> 2:09:56.000 Yeah yeah. 2:09:56.000 --> 2:09:59.400 But according to legend, Mike, a confectioner loved while trying 2:09:59.440 --> 2:10:03.480 to make Carroll but ended up creating something just as tasty, 2:10:04.200 --> 2:10:07.880 which is obviously turn out to be fudge. The fudge 2:10:07.960 --> 2:10:10.120 originates from a messed up batch of camels, since the 2:10:10.200 --> 2:10:13.280 name so the actually, oh fudge, I messed this up. 2:10:13.720 --> 2:10:15.840 Oh this is actually pretty good. Have you ever tried 2:10:15.840 --> 2:10:17.040 to make fudge? I take it. 2:10:17.160 --> 2:10:19.160 No, no, no, but no no. 2:10:21.760 --> 2:10:24.560 Fudge can come in different forms. I mean you can 2:10:24.680 --> 2:10:28.240 get fudge topping, oh yeah, and you can get more 2:10:28.360 --> 2:10:30.000 solid fudge. Oh yeah. 2:10:30.400 --> 2:10:34.720 I tried to make fudge one time. I had some big, 2:10:35.000 --> 2:10:37.520 huge bag of marshmallows that were on sale at Wilworth 2:10:37.560 --> 2:10:40.280 and I said, oh, oh, I like marshmallows so they 2:10:40.320 --> 2:10:42.160 were sitting there for ages and then I thought, oh, 2:10:42.280 --> 2:10:44.640 how can I make in the fudge? Because I knew 2:10:44.680 --> 2:10:48.840 that was one of the recipes. So I used I 2:10:48.920 --> 2:10:52.160 always get this wrong chat TPG or tea Chi, I 2:10:52.160 --> 2:10:54.120 can't remember which one of these. I used that to 2:10:54.160 --> 2:10:55.440 give me a fudge recipe, and. 2:10:57.040 --> 2:10:57.920 It was. 2:10:58.200 --> 2:11:01.440 It tasted great, but it didn't turn hard. It still 2:11:01.600 --> 2:11:03.040 was sort of like you pick it up and a 2:11:03.120 --> 2:11:08.040 gat like bendy floppy. Oh yeah, I still tasted good though. 2:11:08.840 --> 2:11:12.360 But yeah, we're not stroying into one of those TV ads. 2:11:13.440 --> 2:11:16.560 No, definitely not. Okay, Yeah, but it was in eighteen 2:11:16.680 --> 2:11:19.760 eighty six that's when fudge originates from the messed up 2:11:19.760 --> 2:11:23.360 batch of caramels which I mentioned. Eighteen eighty six, a 2:11:23.440 --> 2:11:26.440 fudge sold in Baltimore at forty cents a pound for 2:11:26.520 --> 2:11:28.040 the first time. That was the first time it was 2:11:28.080 --> 2:11:31.480 ever sold. So in eighteen eighty six eighteen eighty nine, 2:11:31.600 --> 2:11:36.680 the first fudge shop opens in Mackinac Island in Michigan, 2:11:37.360 --> 2:11:41.680 and nineteen oh six ice cream parlor C. C. Brown's 2:11:41.720 --> 2:11:44.480 in Hollywood is credited for inventing the hot fudge Sunday 2:11:44.520 --> 2:11:45.760 and that's one of the things I do, in Joe, 2:11:45.760 --> 2:11:46.640 if I get a McDonald's. 2:11:48.280 --> 2:11:50.000 You know you talk about you like your biscuits. 2:11:50.840 --> 2:11:53.640 I do, and I'm off them again. No, I haven't 2:11:53.640 --> 2:11:56.840 had any tonight, I swears. I like these little sponge 2:11:56.960 --> 2:12:00.800 things with some kind of filling in them. Jam the 2:12:00.800 --> 2:12:03.080 little round one one like a rolly thing. 2:12:03.440 --> 2:12:07.200 Yeah, but they've got this clear white sort of filling 2:12:07.280 --> 2:12:11.600 in them. Anyway. They're called ginger kisses. 2:12:12.240 --> 2:12:13.360 Oh where do you get them? I don't. 2:12:13.440 --> 2:12:16.880 That's a supermarket. But when I can't find them, I 2:12:16.960 --> 2:12:20.000 feel a bit sensitive about a grown man saying, excuse me, 2:12:20.080 --> 2:12:22.920 where are the ginger kisses? Right here? 2:12:22.960 --> 2:12:27.160 Sweet here? Now here's one you should do, Mike, you 2:12:27.240 --> 2:12:29.160 should have done today. And I always wish I had 2:12:29.200 --> 2:12:32.280 have done this. It's take your cat to work day. 2:12:32.440 --> 2:12:33.720 Oh yes, sir, I could have done that. 2:12:33.800 --> 2:12:36.040 I suppose, yes, I could have because it's nice and 2:12:36.080 --> 2:12:37.720 warming here. It's toasty woman, that's true. 2:12:37.760 --> 2:12:39.200 It would have been happy in here, I guess. 2:12:39.400 --> 2:12:41.320 Yeah, I don't know how. I don't know if I 2:12:41.360 --> 2:12:43.600 would have. I always thought when I was very much 2:12:43.640 --> 2:12:45.360 attached to my last cat. In no way, and I 2:12:45.400 --> 2:12:47.600 don't have a cat or Mick, I don't have another cat. 2:12:48.520 --> 2:12:50.440 I always felt it would have been nice to have 2:12:50.480 --> 2:12:52.280 Bord along because she was such a good cat. She 2:12:52.400 --> 2:12:55.160 just loved being anywhere I was. She was very coomfortable 2:12:55.240 --> 2:12:56.800 being there because she was a bit like a dog. 2:12:57.520 --> 2:13:00.360 But I don't know if I've ever heard of anyone 2:13:00.440 --> 2:13:03.920 ever doing this, because I think there's also likewise, there's 2:13:03.920 --> 2:13:05.760 a taking dog to work day, and I don't think 2:13:05.760 --> 2:13:08.800 anyone's done that. For a while, there was one of 2:13:09.280 --> 2:13:11.360 the workers here who is no longer here. I won't 2:13:11.400 --> 2:13:15.360 mention her name, but she I think it was on Fridays, 2:13:15.480 --> 2:13:17.600 and I only discovered this when I was working on 2:13:17.720 --> 2:13:21.720 the night program over summer. She had her dog in here, 2:13:21.800 --> 2:13:23.360 but the dog left something behind. 2:13:23.920 --> 2:13:26.840 Oh, I don't think it would have worked with this cat, 2:13:26.920 --> 2:13:30.160 because this cat wants constant attention. It's one of those cats. 2:13:30.160 --> 2:13:32.400 If you're talking to somebody on the phone, it comes 2:13:32.520 --> 2:13:34.800 up and wants to head butt you and say what 2:13:34.880 --> 2:13:35.240 about me? 2:13:35.440 --> 2:13:35.480 Me? 2:13:35.640 --> 2:13:35.680 Me? 2:13:36.600 --> 2:13:39.240 So if it came in here and I'm talking on 2:13:39.360 --> 2:13:41.240 this thing, it'd be you know, what about me? 2:13:41.400 --> 2:13:41.440 Me? 2:13:41.600 --> 2:13:41.640 Me? 2:13:41.760 --> 2:13:43.440 And it'd be headbutting and like a pone and me 2:13:43.600 --> 2:13:46.440 and purring and yeah. So I don't know if it 2:13:46.440 --> 2:13:47.360 would have succeeded. 2:13:47.640 --> 2:13:51.360 Yeah, I might mention. Also sorry it left the treat 2:13:52.320 --> 2:13:55.760 right beside Clinton made Heart's desk. I made sure I 2:13:55.840 --> 2:13:57.480 got rid of it. Say Clinton didn't have to do it. 2:13:57.640 --> 2:14:00.640 Oh I see, Okay, Susan's as I had the best 2:14:00.680 --> 2:14:04.400 ever fudged little shop in York in England. Very nice. 2:14:05.240 --> 2:14:12.160 Those poems can make make fudge. Mick says. How these 2:14:12.280 --> 2:14:14.120 cats got the better off as a warm bed e 2:14:14.240 --> 2:14:18.280 meal and keep the noise down. Very shifty, says Mick. 2:14:20.120 --> 2:14:25.880 Jerry says, okay, Jerry. Ginger kisses were popular on Gilligan's Island. 2:14:26.280 --> 2:14:31.960 Wum tish Jerry from Sutherland. Yes, oh yes, did you 2:14:32.040 --> 2:14:35.400 brightened up an adolescent's day? Indeed? 2:14:35.480 --> 2:14:38.680 But Marianne got the most male, did she? She did? Indeed, 2:14:38.800 --> 2:14:41.200 I think it would have been because I think it 2:14:41.320 --> 2:14:44.200 was the way they I heard it mentioned in It 2:14:44.320 --> 2:14:49.600 was in a documentary I saw it said that they 2:14:49.680 --> 2:14:52.920 wanted to date Ginger, but they wanted to marry mary Anne. 2:14:53.960 --> 2:14:58.120 She was the marrying kind. The cats were domesticated back 2:14:58.200 --> 2:15:01.600 around ten thousand BC that we use as vermin control 2:15:02.520 --> 2:15:05.720 during the rise of agriculture three thousand and five BC. 2:15:05.920 --> 2:15:09.560 Ancient Egyptians. They love their cats, mic they were very 2:15:09.640 --> 2:15:14.600 keen on cats. Bastet, their goddess of warfare, had a 2:15:14.680 --> 2:15:16.680 cat head. I never heard of Bastet, and I know 2:15:16.840 --> 2:15:21.960 quite a bit about the culture of Egypt and little bastets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2:15:22.160 --> 2:15:25.680 And in two thousands, cats rule thirty four percent of 2:15:25.800 --> 2:15:30.360 US homes. That's around ninety million domesticated cats entertaining owners 2:15:30.400 --> 2:15:33.040 around the country. I imagine that would be very sort 2:15:33.040 --> 2:15:38.720 of a similar percentage here, lots of cats. Yeah, Aberist 2:15:39.160 --> 2:15:43.520 Appreciation Day. Don't you really appreciate your arborist? 2:15:44.520 --> 2:15:44.720 Yeah? 2:15:45.960 --> 2:15:48.839 When I was in primary school, we had to venerate 2:15:49.120 --> 2:15:51.920 arbor Day or something. Oh yeah, is that the same thing. 2:15:52.320 --> 2:15:54.440 Well, I must have probably had something to do with. 2:15:54.600 --> 2:15:59.040 But we show appreciation of these unsung heroes of tree cultivation, maintenance, 2:15:59.080 --> 2:16:03.920 and management. I suppose in non botanical gardens, I imagine 2:16:03.920 --> 2:16:06.720 they'd have professionals go through there and check out the trees. 2:16:06.920 --> 2:16:08.960 I suppose, So, yeah, yeah, I don't know. 2:16:09.200 --> 2:16:13.160 I don't think she was an aborist, but I told 2:16:13.200 --> 2:16:15.640 her this story. Was it last year? Got a knock 2:16:15.680 --> 2:16:17.400 on the door and I went out there hill Rump, 2:16:17.440 --> 2:16:20.840 who was waking me up and there was a tree 2:16:20.920 --> 2:16:22.920 that had come down out front and crashed in in 2:16:23.000 --> 2:16:26.040 front of my house. I slept through it, and the 2:16:26.160 --> 2:16:29.480 councilwoman was there, and they just wanted to let me 2:16:29.520 --> 2:16:32.200 because it was right across my fence, against my house 2:16:32.280 --> 2:16:36.280 and against where I was sleeping. But I didn't totally oblivious. 2:16:36.320 --> 2:16:37.560 It didn't cause any damage. 2:16:38.200 --> 2:16:40.720 Yes, I the housewms with lots of big trees about him. 2:16:40.720 --> 2:16:42.320 My mother was always worried they're going to fall in 2:16:42.360 --> 2:16:46.360 the house. So me and the boys took a photo 2:16:46.400 --> 2:16:49.080 of us leaning against the trees to keep the house 2:16:49.160 --> 2:16:51.680 safe well and sent it to mother. I don't know 2:16:51.720 --> 2:16:52.760 whether that calmed to fears. 2:16:52.879 --> 2:16:55.440 I probably did, But in this case, the woman was 2:16:55.640 --> 2:16:58.400 actually this is what the guys who ended up coming 2:16:58.440 --> 2:17:01.040 around to cut up the tree told me. The woman 2:17:01.280 --> 2:17:05.720 was there inspecting the trees and it actually fell down 2:17:06.160 --> 2:17:07.480 while she was inspecting it. 2:17:07.760 --> 2:17:10.760 Tim, I know those trees. 2:17:11.320 --> 2:17:16.879 Yeah, But anyway, the original of oh god, a bora culture, 2:17:17.120 --> 2:17:20.160 A bora culture, Am I saying that word right? 2:17:20.200 --> 2:17:20.879 I'm probably med? 2:17:22.040 --> 2:17:24.880 Yeah, traces back to ancient times. It was infertile Crescent 2:17:25.000 --> 2:17:28.160 that the first trees were cultivated in Mesopotamica. In Egypt. 2:17:28.280 --> 2:17:33.879 Owing to migration and trade exchangers, techniques in aberriculture were 2:17:33.920 --> 2:17:38.240 developed and the profession spread throughout Europe. The date palm 2:17:38.320 --> 2:17:40.280 tree was the first to be cultivated in the Middle 2:17:40.320 --> 2:17:43.760 East because of the popularity of its sweet fruit. By 2:17:43.879 --> 2:17:47.879 six thousand BC, Mike Asia began cultivating olive trees, which 2:17:47.959 --> 2:17:52.160 became so popular they reached North Africa through trade. Discovery 2:17:52.160 --> 2:17:55.119 of olive trees as producing oil became a vital part 2:17:55.160 --> 2:17:59.880 of ancient civilization in Italy. So you know, looking after 2:18:00.320 --> 2:18:03.320 trees is a good thing. I've just got a trouble 2:18:03.360 --> 2:18:05.400 with my mulberry tree. I keep cutting it back. I 2:18:05.520 --> 2:18:09.680 stupidly can't seem to get rid of it, Mike, because 2:18:09.800 --> 2:18:14.120 I feel bad about chopping down a tree. So I 2:18:14.680 --> 2:18:16.480 chop it back every summer, and then of course it 2:18:16.560 --> 2:18:17.320 sprouts up and. 2:18:18.360 --> 2:18:21.840 There it is again. Yeah you remember stan Ze Manik. Oh, Yeah, 2:18:22.320 --> 2:18:26.640 stan had a very nice house on the northern side 2:18:26.680 --> 2:18:30.560 of the spit. And for people who can't picture Sydney, 2:18:30.800 --> 2:18:34.720 beautiful area, it's a beautiful area overlooking this big patch 2:18:34.840 --> 2:18:38.440 of water. And anyway, there was this tree, a giant 2:18:38.640 --> 2:18:42.480 conifer of some confer obscuring stands view and he wanted 2:18:42.520 --> 2:18:46.360 to cut it down to the council said no, no, no, no, no, no, 2:18:46.720 --> 2:18:52.119 no no no. They said, where's the cat. We'll wait 2:18:52.200 --> 2:18:58.000 for the cat. Yeah, all right, thank you cat. Anyway, 2:18:58.360 --> 2:19:03.119 so picture this giant triangular shaped tree yep, right obscuring 2:19:03.240 --> 2:19:06.280 Stan's view. Not allowed to cut it down. So what 2:19:06.440 --> 2:19:10.520 he did was he got an arborist probably I don't 2:19:10.520 --> 2:19:13.720 if it was on the appropriate day, and about one 2:19:13.879 --> 2:19:16.960 third up the tree, he cut all the branches off. 2:19:17.320 --> 2:19:19.080 Oh so it's got a nice little ball spot. 2:19:19.600 --> 2:19:22.960 So it had the top and then it had the 2:19:22.959 --> 2:19:26.480 bottom that you could see through the tree. Oh, it's nice. 2:19:26.520 --> 2:19:26.920 It worked. 2:19:26.959 --> 2:19:30.360 It was a win win for everyone, I suppose. Yes, yes, 2:19:30.480 --> 2:19:31.360 I think we need a break. 2:19:32.600 --> 2:19:36.200 Yeah, Dom says arborist day a day celebrating men with 2:19:36.400 --> 2:19:42.000 no teeth and to charge like wounded bulls. Fascinating, she is, Dom, 2:19:42.080 --> 2:19:43.760 What does that mean? I don't know. 2:19:44.160 --> 2:19:46.440 Maybe he's had an arborist and they didn't have any teeth. 2:19:46.920 --> 2:19:51.480 Denise says, I love trees. Sharon says high Mike and Dale, 2:19:51.600 --> 2:19:54.560 is there cat jackets that you know of? My cat 2:19:54.720 --> 2:19:58.000 is outside. Thank god it's not snowing. Yes, I don't 2:19:58.320 --> 2:20:03.000 like hair everywhere, says Sharon, worried about her cat being cold. 2:20:03.160 --> 2:20:05.520 But most cats, I know it's smart enough to keep 2:20:05.560 --> 2:20:08.880 their given fur coats. Oh, yes, indeed, I think they're Okay. 2:20:09.040 --> 2:20:11.400 I have seen I have seen a cat in. 2:20:11.680 --> 2:20:14.160 A little coat. I think it'd be hard to keep 2:20:14.200 --> 2:20:14.520 it on it. 2:20:15.240 --> 2:20:16.959 Yes, I don't think they'd take a world of clothing, 2:20:17.040 --> 2:20:22.320 but anyway. Sharon also says tries Summer Rolldale Summer Roll Newgar. 2:20:22.920 --> 2:20:23.600 Oh they're nice. 2:20:23.760 --> 2:20:26.240 You will love it. Okay, so bothered me here one time, 2:20:26.280 --> 2:20:29.600 and I scoffed quite a few. Susan also says Dale, 2:20:29.680 --> 2:20:31.840 don't get rid of the Mulbury tree. They're so tasty. 2:20:32.840 --> 2:20:35.640 I think mulberry pie and jam et cetera. They cost 2:20:35.680 --> 2:20:36.480 a bomb at the shops. 2:20:36.600 --> 2:20:40.240 Yeah, I know, but it also attracts the bats. I 2:20:40.360 --> 2:20:42.880 did when the tree was a lot bigger, before I 2:20:43.480 --> 2:20:45.560 really hacked it back. I did take a big, big, 2:20:45.680 --> 2:20:48.760 big bowl of Moulbery's down when my mum was still around, 2:20:49.640 --> 2:20:52.120 and I think her neighbor made a pie out of it. 2:20:52.320 --> 2:20:53.160 It was the last time we. 2:20:53.160 --> 2:20:56.039 Had that mulberry pie. But Mulbury's kind of decline as 2:20:56.080 --> 2:20:59.000 the tree gets older, because when the tree is young, 2:21:00.000 --> 2:21:05.359 they're great, big, slightly tart berries, but they get smaller, 2:21:05.560 --> 2:21:08.920 and when the tree is quite old, they're really small 2:21:09.000 --> 2:21:16.480 and kind of sickly, so they only have a certain time. Yes, anyway, 2:21:16.560 --> 2:21:20.600 we'll take a break National Days with Dale. What do 2:21:20.640 --> 2:21:20.880 you go on? 2:21:21.000 --> 2:21:23.440 And it's fresh Veggies Day, Mike. I like this day. 2:21:23.840 --> 2:21:26.520 I try if I get the opportunity, and I did 2:21:26.560 --> 2:21:29.119 this on the weekend. I go down to Patty's Market 2:21:29.240 --> 2:21:31.240 to stock up on quite a few things. I had 2:21:31.240 --> 2:21:32.360 a custard apple yesterday. 2:21:33.080 --> 2:21:34.240 I ate that you don't like them. 2:21:34.800 --> 2:21:36.879 I'm going to try and keep the seeds and see 2:21:36.920 --> 2:21:39.800 if I can grow them. I sort of reasonably easy 2:21:39.840 --> 2:21:41.560 to sort of wrap them up in paper. Wait from 2:21:41.600 --> 2:21:42.080 this brown. 2:21:42.600 --> 2:21:44.440 They are on the list of things that I don't 2:21:44.640 --> 2:21:46.760 like because we had such a glut of them when 2:21:46.800 --> 2:21:47.920 I was a kid in Pasland. 2:21:48.920 --> 2:21:50.640 Oh okay, now I haven't had one since I was 2:21:50.680 --> 2:21:52.400 a kid, and when on the Patty's market, I saw 2:21:52.440 --> 2:21:53.920 it and said, oh, I have one of those, because 2:21:53.920 --> 2:21:54.400 I haven't had. 2:21:54.360 --> 2:21:56.040 One for a while. But we had to eat all 2:21:56.120 --> 2:21:59.039 these things like mangoes, you know, because there were poor 2:21:59.080 --> 2:22:01.080 people in China who have mangoes. 2:22:01.200 --> 2:22:04.400 Oh yeah, I think I caught that when I was 2:22:04.440 --> 2:22:07.120 a kid. I'm not sure if I copped that with 2:22:07.240 --> 2:22:10.480 the tripe. Yeah, I probably didn't matter what I was 2:22:10.560 --> 2:22:12.320 threatened to with. I could sit there all night, I 2:22:12.360 --> 2:22:13.359 would not touch. 2:22:13.200 --> 2:22:15.800 The true Yes, well, mama, don't you put him in 2:22:15.800 --> 2:22:17.440 the back of the station wagon and take them over 2:22:17.520 --> 2:22:18.600 to the poor people in China? 2:22:19.400 --> 2:22:22.280 Oh lordy LORDI anyway, I do like fresh vegetables, and 2:22:22.320 --> 2:22:25.560 obviously a lot better than the if you get the opportunity, 2:22:25.600 --> 2:22:27.240 it's a lot better than getting the ones that are 2:22:27.280 --> 2:22:29.560 possibly put in cryogenic freeze. 2:22:29.600 --> 2:22:32.000 For a while. Watching my show the other day where 2:22:32.000 --> 2:22:33.760 a woman said she was telling the truth that she 2:22:33.879 --> 2:22:36.680 ate twenty five carrots to day, it seems like a lot, 2:22:36.760 --> 2:22:37.080 doesn't it. 2:22:37.160 --> 2:22:38.160 Twenty five carrots? 2:22:38.280 --> 2:22:41.240 Yeah, I mean I do like carrots, but twenty five 2:22:41.280 --> 2:22:42.119 a day seems a lot. 2:22:42.320 --> 2:22:42.680 So do I. 2:22:42.840 --> 2:22:44.920 But if I like, if I ate one, I wouldn't 2:22:44.920 --> 2:22:46.520 feel like anyone for like months. 2:22:47.280 --> 2:22:48.960 Well, the amount she was eating she was going to 2:22:49.000 --> 2:22:49.760 skin went orange. 2:22:50.560 --> 2:22:54.600 That wouldn't surprise me. I've read that that actually does happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 2:22:54.680 --> 2:22:57.359 maybe it's better than getting going and getting a Sun Tannery. 2:22:58.760 --> 2:23:01.840 Here's what I do like also, Mike, I have visited 2:23:01.920 --> 2:23:03.800 quite a few. I did quite a few in Canada 2:23:04.440 --> 2:23:07.720 and quite a few places. It's International Waterfall Day. 2:23:08.000 --> 2:23:09.160 Oh yeah, that sounds nice. 2:23:09.240 --> 2:23:11.840 Which beautiful I mean great place. I mean, I'm sure 2:23:11.879 --> 2:23:14.160 every way it's got it's great places to go and 2:23:14.480 --> 2:23:16.560 check out some waterfalls, whether it be the Blue Mountains 2:23:16.640 --> 2:23:20.360 or down in any of the national parks. But I've 2:23:20.440 --> 2:23:25.000 seen some beauties. I always remember in Utah, I was 2:23:25.040 --> 2:23:27.040 in a little town called Nephi. Me and my friend 2:23:27.080 --> 2:23:30.640 were traveling and the snow hadn't the snow was still around, 2:23:31.560 --> 2:23:34.720 and there was We asked, because I was visiting a 2:23:34.760 --> 2:23:37.840 friend that I'd previously met in Utah, you. 2:23:37.879 --> 2:23:40.080 Were visiting one of your four wives near one of 2:23:40.120 --> 2:23:42.160 those because they used to allow that back in the day. 2:23:43.160 --> 2:23:45.760 Yes, And so we asked where there were some waterfalls, 2:23:45.800 --> 2:23:47.760 told us where there were, and this was We ended 2:23:47.840 --> 2:23:51.240 up going in the waterfall and this was water which 2:23:51.360 --> 2:23:54.200 was melting off the mountains. We still had snows, so 2:23:54.240 --> 2:23:57.320 we got in the freezing cold water. Tangy then it was, 2:23:57.440 --> 2:24:01.640 but it was very very nice. But European explorers used 2:24:01.640 --> 2:24:04.520 to document the waterfalls they came across. In fourteen ninety three, 2:24:04.600 --> 2:24:10.520 Christopher Columbus wrote about Carbet falls in Guadaloupe Guada loop 2:24:10.920 --> 2:24:14.960 quite a loop, gua a loope, Yeah, Guada loopep, which 2:24:15.040 --> 2:24:18.760 could be the first waterfall Europeans recorded seeing in the Americas. However, 2:24:19.480 --> 2:24:24.280 geographer Brian J. Hudson suggests it was uncommon to specifically 2:24:24.360 --> 2:24:27.960 named waterfalls until the eighteenth century. But whatever they do, 2:24:28.720 --> 2:24:32.800 they're beautiful to look at, and I stop at every 2:24:32.920 --> 2:24:35.800 waterfall I see, Mike and take some nice little footage. 2:24:35.920 --> 2:24:37.840 Well, that are marvelous natural features. 2:24:38.040 --> 2:24:40.640 Now I can't the place I went on a cruise 2:24:40.720 --> 2:24:44.080 in New Zealand to go down and see these amazing waterfalls, 2:24:44.120 --> 2:24:47.160 which obviously most of them are caused by the snow 2:24:47.640 --> 2:24:48.800 melting off the mountains. 2:24:49.040 --> 2:24:50.360 What have you so? 2:24:51.120 --> 2:24:56.640 Yeah, Finally, Mike, it's World Sea Turtle Day. Is it 2:24:56.959 --> 2:24:59.560 this to raise awareness about the plight of the sea turtles? 2:25:00.120 --> 2:25:00.280 Mike? 2:25:00.360 --> 2:25:02.680 Did you know that every year about eight tons of 2:25:02.800 --> 2:25:05.720 plastic had dumped into our oceans. That's extremely hazardous the 2:25:05.800 --> 2:25:08.800 sea turtles, poor turtle, so much so that six out 2:25:08.840 --> 2:25:11.800 of eight marine turtle species are on the verge of extension. 2:25:12.040 --> 2:25:14.039 And they are delicious tur I my dad. 2:25:15.160 --> 2:25:17.440 I don't think I could bring myself to eat anything 2:25:17.480 --> 2:25:19.119 turtle sourced. 2:25:19.600 --> 2:25:20.600 No, no, I couldn't do that. 2:25:20.800 --> 2:25:21.520 I couldn't at all. 2:25:21.560 --> 2:25:23.920 But the only reason I've ever heard of turtle soup 2:25:24.040 --> 2:25:27.600 is because of Gilligan's Island, Okay, And I don't think 2:25:27.720 --> 2:25:29.760 even then. I don't think I would have eaten turtles. 2:25:30.000 --> 2:25:30.320 I don't. 2:25:30.640 --> 2:25:32.560 I can't imagine what of them taste like, but I 2:25:32.959 --> 2:25:35.240 can imagine that I wouldn't like the taste of it. 2:25:35.640 --> 2:25:36.800 So what do you tell me? They were going to 2:25:36.920 --> 2:25:38.840 visit the galapagus, and I said, be sure to give 2:25:38.879 --> 2:25:43.240 my regards to the turtles. Oh, they're pretty big apparently. 2:25:44.080 --> 2:25:47.240 Yeah, two shaped member, two shape turtle. No, that was 2:25:47.280 --> 2:25:50.400 a cartoon. It was one of the Hanniba bearer and 2:25:50.560 --> 2:25:52.600 had a turtle who had a sword. It was a 2:25:52.640 --> 2:25:53.959 two see away. 2:25:55.480 --> 2:25:57.640 A turtle was a toil. You don't expect that thing? 2:25:57.760 --> 2:26:01.680 Yeah, yeah, foiled again. The decline in the turtle green 2:26:01.959 --> 2:26:05.560 turtle population. This is in the seventeenth century. They decline 2:26:05.600 --> 2:26:09.880 from ninety one million down to thirty thousand. That was 2:26:09.959 --> 2:26:13.360 possibly because they were hunted and eaten. I guess, so yeah, yeah, 2:26:13.480 --> 2:26:17.720 seventeenth century decline in hawks hawks bill turtles. The population 2:26:17.800 --> 2:26:20.480 of hawks bill turtle decreases from eleven million to less 2:26:20.480 --> 2:26:23.240 than thirty thousand, So there's a couple of different turtles 2:26:23.280 --> 2:26:28.240 that sort of finishing vanishing. Between tuesdayand and one and 2:26:28.240 --> 2:26:32.600 twenty eleven, the population of loggerheads that's another turtle in 2:26:32.800 --> 2:26:36.880 the North Pacific declines by about eighty percent, And in 2:26:36.959 --> 2:26:42.560 twenty fourteen, leatherback turtle nests increased from twenty seven only 2:26:42.600 --> 2:26:44.760 twenty seven in nineteen eighty nine to six hundred and 2:26:44.800 --> 2:26:48.560 forty one in twenty fourteen. So you've obviously gone about 2:26:48.879 --> 2:26:52.840 trying to rectify this decline in turtles. 2:26:53.280 --> 2:26:56.760 I've never really done anything for turtles, but I like 2:26:56.920 --> 2:27:00.280 to feel that I've done my bit for the training 2:27:00.360 --> 2:27:03.840 long neck tortoise. Oh yeah, because we used to keep 2:27:03.879 --> 2:27:07.200 the gloves in the car, the tortoise gloves to pick 2:27:07.240 --> 2:27:11.680 them up because they'd be there. You know, their defense 2:27:11.720 --> 2:27:15.240 against to be double running them over was to withdraw arms, legs, 2:27:15.280 --> 2:27:17.520 heads and tail and sit in the middle of the road. 2:27:18.480 --> 2:27:20.040 So I used to pick them up and take them 2:27:20.080 --> 2:27:23.640 and put them in the creek. And I've done so 2:27:23.800 --> 2:27:27.480 many in all humility. I like to think that I'm 2:27:27.520 --> 2:27:30.840 a god for the turtles. Oh you turtle savior, and 2:27:30.959 --> 2:27:34.000 they talk among themselves. Did the gloves come for you? 2:27:35.360 --> 2:27:37.720 But see turtles among the oldest creatures on Earth, Mike, 2:27:37.800 --> 2:27:41.680 having remained unchanged for one hundred and ten million years. Well, 2:27:42.120 --> 2:27:45.200 like Keith Richards, when you've got to design this week 2:27:45.360 --> 2:27:48.120 for you, white change. Yeah, like sharks. I suppose in 2:27:48.200 --> 2:27:50.600 a lot of cases they got a little bit smaller. Yeah, 2:27:50.840 --> 2:27:53.800 they pretty much have stayed the same. Like crocodiles as well. 2:27:54.160 --> 2:27:57.480 Yes, the crocodile accused to being a dinosaur in North Carolina. 2:27:57.680 --> 2:27:59.760 I think they are a dinosaur. Yeah, and good for 2:28:00.080 --> 2:28:02.720 when you talk about the dinosaurs disappearing. But you can 2:28:02.760 --> 2:28:06.360 look at certain critters that we're still used to seeing, 2:28:06.480 --> 2:28:09.680 like hippopotamus and stuff, and they look pretty prehistoric to me. 2:28:10.000 --> 2:28:13.000 They certainly do. And they'll bite you if you give 2:28:13.000 --> 2:28:14.240 them a half a chance. Yeah. 2:28:14.240 --> 2:28:17.000 A female turtle uses its rear flippers to dig nest 2:28:17.040 --> 2:28:19.160 hole and then lays about one hundred eggs. After laying 2:28:19.160 --> 2:28:21.560 the eggs, the turtle covers them up, camouflages and nest 2:28:21.600 --> 2:28:23.080 site before returning to the ocean. 2:28:23.280 --> 2:28:24.200 The job is nesting. 2:28:24.320 --> 2:28:27.160 Turtles may return to the nesting site for laying eggs 2:28:27.200 --> 2:28:30.119 several times and usually nest every two to three years. 2:28:30.520 --> 2:28:33.120 And obviously they do it in such abundance because not 2:28:33.240 --> 2:28:36.280 all of them make it. They might get down, they 2:28:36.360 --> 2:28:37.640 can eaten by a seagull. 2:28:39.080 --> 2:28:42.440 Yes, yeah, all right, thank you Mike. That's National Days 2:28:42.440 --> 2:28:45.360 with Dale. Thank you Dale. How to know if a 2:28:45.520 --> 2:28:50.600 relationship is worth it? How to evaluate your relationship? Somebody 2:28:50.600 --> 2:28:56.560 who's studied this is strategic psychotherapist Bronwin Penn Halligan. Good morning, Bronwin, 2:28:56.640 --> 2:28:57.320 Thank you for doing this. 2:28:58.160 --> 2:28:59.440 Pleasure happy to be here. 2:28:59.760 --> 2:29:04.040 So how can you tell if the relationship is worth it? 2:29:04.920 --> 2:29:07.280 You know, do you sort of evaluate by saying, well, 2:29:07.920 --> 2:29:10.920 I'm happy sixty percent of the time, eighty percent of 2:29:11.000 --> 2:29:13.480 the time, or I don't know, what do you suggest? 2:29:14.560 --> 2:29:17.960 Look, I think the really fun facts about relationships are 2:29:18.000 --> 2:29:21.960 that they are very fluid and very dynamic situations. So 2:29:22.680 --> 2:29:25.040 you know, every single day we're working with a whole 2:29:25.040 --> 2:29:28.520 bunch of different variables. Right, So kind of putting it 2:29:28.560 --> 2:29:31.960 into a framework whereby you know, your measuring or testing 2:29:32.480 --> 2:29:34.480 doesn't really work. We need to go a little bit 2:29:34.600 --> 2:29:37.480 deeper and start to think about the value sets of 2:29:37.560 --> 2:29:41.320 what's driving interactions and behaviors and start from that point. 2:29:41.720 --> 2:29:44.160 Okay, so what are the value sets? Can you give 2:29:44.200 --> 2:29:45.199 me a couple of examples? 2:29:46.040 --> 2:29:46.240 Yeah? 2:29:46.320 --> 2:29:49.240 Absolutely, so. I think that one of the great places 2:29:49.320 --> 2:29:53.240 for start is how do I feel around being honest? 2:29:53.400 --> 2:29:57.440 And by being honest, I mean really truly honestly honest. 2:29:57.600 --> 2:29:59.320 And is that a safe thing for you to do 2:29:59.400 --> 2:30:01.760 in the relationship ship? Is it okay for you to 2:30:01.840 --> 2:30:05.320 give feedback or do you find that you're couching things 2:30:05.360 --> 2:30:07.760 in a certain way and posturing things in a certain 2:30:07.800 --> 2:30:11.040 way so as to avoid a conflict. That's typically a 2:30:11.120 --> 2:30:13.880 good place to start. And then the next piece is 2:30:14.000 --> 2:30:18.039 more around is the effort in the relationship a mutual things? 2:30:18.200 --> 2:30:21.520 So are we both initiating contact? Are we both working 2:30:21.920 --> 2:30:25.760 collectively on resolving conflict, making plans that kind of thing, 2:30:26.280 --> 2:30:29.520 Because sometimes if you're the person who's doing a lot 2:30:29.560 --> 2:30:32.720 of the over work holding it together, then you're not 2:30:32.800 --> 2:30:35.520 really in a partnership. You're more just managing the dynamic. 2:30:36.200 --> 2:30:39.920 I've done just a peculiar thing where one party regards 2:30:39.959 --> 2:30:44.520 the other quite literally as a good catch, but isn't 2:30:44.640 --> 2:30:46.040 happy what's going on? 2:30:46.200 --> 2:30:46.400 There. 2:30:47.879 --> 2:30:50.680 Well, I guess the moment's about being a good catch. 2:30:50.720 --> 2:30:52.360 It kind of comes down to, well, how are we 2:30:52.480 --> 2:30:54.440 measuring success? What does that look like? 2:30:54.760 --> 2:30:54.960 Yeah? 2:30:55.800 --> 2:30:59.080 And I guess for some people, you know, being a 2:30:59.160 --> 2:31:03.800 good catch person might simply be linked to what's available 2:31:03.840 --> 2:31:07.680 from a financial set or the extensions that they provide 2:31:07.720 --> 2:31:09.879 in the social life and that kind of thing. So again, 2:31:09.920 --> 2:31:12.480 it comes down to feeling as I am, I in 2:31:12.600 --> 2:31:15.200 something that feels equitable and where I feel like a 2:31:15.280 --> 2:31:17.640 priority or more of just an option. 2:31:18.720 --> 2:31:21.480 But I mean, isn't it a case of if the 2:31:21.560 --> 2:31:25.240 person ain't doing it for you, they're not really a 2:31:25.320 --> 2:31:28.160 good catch, even if you're comparing them to you know 2:31:28.360 --> 2:31:31.600 what the friends have. I've noticed a peculiar thing with 2:31:32.120 --> 2:31:36.680 males over the years who have been sufficiently wealthy, personable, 2:31:36.760 --> 2:31:40.480 whatever it takes to get a real beauty, and then 2:31:40.520 --> 2:31:45.320 when they're out in public, they spend their time denigrating 2:31:45.400 --> 2:31:46.800 the woman. That's weird, isn't it. 2:31:47.840 --> 2:31:48.040 Yeah? 2:31:48.280 --> 2:31:52.040 Yeah, that certainly doesn't sound like an invested and respectful 2:31:52.320 --> 2:31:55.960 interaction at all there, right, Because I guess you know, 2:31:56.080 --> 2:31:59.080 it's about thinking around, well, what is the purpose of 2:31:59.160 --> 2:32:03.240 partnership here? And if it's if what you're or what 2:32:03.400 --> 2:32:06.880 someone is looking to fulfill is to have essentially someone 2:32:06.959 --> 2:32:10.680 who looks really nice next to them in photographs. I mean, 2:32:10.760 --> 2:32:13.880 perhaps you know those value sets and being able to 2:32:13.959 --> 2:32:16.760 actually create a life together is feeling like less of 2:32:16.840 --> 2:32:20.240 a priority. Therefore, you know, the relationship would be fairly 2:32:20.680 --> 2:32:22.119 surface level. I would imagine. 2:32:22.680 --> 2:32:26.240 Yes, it's some kind of odd ego driven thing. I guess, 2:32:26.800 --> 2:32:32.040 either a self esteem thing or saying hey, look what 2:32:32.120 --> 2:32:33.760 I can get and it's nothing to me. 2:32:35.040 --> 2:32:38.880 Yeah, yeah, look I think it's it is interesting. I mean, 2:32:38.959 --> 2:32:42.400 on one hand, to be the person that is, you know, 2:32:42.560 --> 2:32:45.480 feeling very much empowered and that I get to have 2:32:45.640 --> 2:32:48.600 my pick of all the flowers, so to speak, versus 2:32:48.720 --> 2:32:51.000 being the person that does feel like they're a flower 2:32:51.080 --> 2:32:54.800 that's been selected. Right, Because then what are you? I mean, 2:32:54.959 --> 2:32:58.680 you're going a wither as you age and perhaps not 2:32:58.879 --> 2:33:02.640 quite being competition all the time for making sure that 2:33:02.720 --> 2:33:05.080 you're saying still in good favor. 2:33:04.920 --> 2:33:07.320 As it were, you have a saying here, if it 2:33:07.440 --> 2:33:12.360 costs you your peace, it's too expensive. What do you mean? 2:33:13.600 --> 2:33:16.200 Yeah, I thought you'd ask about that, Mike. So this 2:33:16.360 --> 2:33:19.560 isn't more about emotional peace, So that kind that lets 2:33:19.600 --> 2:33:22.360 you feel safe and steady and like yourself. Like, all 2:33:22.440 --> 2:33:25.320 relationships have conflict, right, I mean that's part of what 2:33:25.480 --> 2:33:28.600 makes them challenging and helps us grow. So it doesn't 2:33:28.640 --> 2:33:32.680 have to be perfect. But if you're feeling like you're 2:33:32.720 --> 2:33:36.480 walking on eggshells or over explaining yourself, taking guessing your worse, 2:33:36.640 --> 2:33:39.440 I mean, that's what takes a toll there. And so 2:33:40.040 --> 2:33:42.520 while the right relationship will challenge you, it shouldn't be 2:33:42.680 --> 2:33:45.720 eroding you. And that's what you know, that kind of 2:33:45.879 --> 2:33:49.560 terminology of costing you your peace is what that's really about. 2:33:50.360 --> 2:33:54.640 Okay. I know somebody who told the kids that came 2:33:54.720 --> 2:33:56.879 with the man in her life when she married him, 2:33:57.920 --> 2:34:01.040 living with your father was like living within them exploded bomb. 2:34:02.040 --> 2:34:06.560 Oh wow wow? Okay, yeah, that would absolutely be the 2:34:06.840 --> 2:34:11.720 walking on actual analogy right there, right, waiting for what's 2:34:11.760 --> 2:34:14.760 going to happen next. And I think that's also what 2:34:15.080 --> 2:34:18.280 becomes quite difficult and challenging. And you know, when relationships 2:34:18.360 --> 2:34:21.160 aren't coming from that place of deep connection and that 2:34:21.320 --> 2:34:24.760 safety that I was talking about, Because if you feel 2:34:24.840 --> 2:34:28.560 that you can't be your true, honest, transparent, authentic self 2:34:28.600 --> 2:34:31.960 with your partner, well it's probably time to have a 2:34:32.000 --> 2:34:34.560 little bit of a think about, well, what else is 2:34:34.600 --> 2:34:37.800 this relationship costing me or what is this adding to 2:34:38.000 --> 2:34:38.440 my life? 2:34:39.000 --> 2:34:41.240 By the way, to the very best of my knowledge, 2:34:41.280 --> 2:34:43.840 there was no violence in the relationship. It was just 2:34:44.480 --> 2:34:48.240 a feeling kind of an attitude. But one of the difficulties, 2:34:48.720 --> 2:34:54.360 if I may say, is certainly, speaking from my side 2:34:54.360 --> 2:34:56.760 of the fence as a male, you have to kind 2:34:56.800 --> 2:34:57.680 of guess a fair bit. 2:34:59.560 --> 2:34:59.760 Yeah. 2:35:00.080 --> 2:35:02.920 Yeah, Look, I think that the behavior patterns that we 2:35:03.000 --> 2:35:06.280 get into in our relationships, and not just intimate partner ones, 2:35:06.360 --> 2:35:09.320 but you know, in our friendship group, in our family settings, 2:35:09.360 --> 2:35:14.200 even in work environments, sometimes we do fall into certain 2:35:14.280 --> 2:35:18.879 behavior loops. And sometimes some people have, you know, essentially 2:35:19.080 --> 2:35:22.440 just been going through their lives with an avoidance when 2:35:22.480 --> 2:35:25.400 it comes to dealing with the hard stuff life, how 2:35:25.480 --> 2:35:28.360 it feels they don't want to lean into it. Perhaps 2:35:28.400 --> 2:35:31.160 they've had a couple of experiences with conflicts that have 2:35:31.240 --> 2:35:34.279 been really problematic, and so they're a little bit burned, 2:35:34.440 --> 2:35:37.160 so to speak, right, so they run that pattern of 2:35:37.720 --> 2:35:39.840 not wanting to speak up, not wanting to be clear 2:35:39.879 --> 2:35:43.000 about what they want or need, and then kind of 2:35:43.120 --> 2:35:45.119 just feeling a little bit surly or a little bit 2:35:45.640 --> 2:35:48.920 of kilter most of the time. Hence the I feel 2:35:48.959 --> 2:35:52.600 like I need to guess or imagine what someone might 2:35:52.680 --> 2:35:54.680 be thinking, wanting or needing from me here. 2:35:55.840 --> 2:35:58.240 Despite everything in this day and age, in the attitude 2:35:58.280 --> 2:36:01.920 we've been taking in this conversation, some people do actually 2:36:02.120 --> 2:36:04.560 manage to stay together for life, don't they. 2:36:05.400 --> 2:36:05.640 Yeah. 2:36:05.840 --> 2:36:10.360 Absolutely, I mean to share with you, Mike, Literally tomorrow 2:36:10.600 --> 2:36:15.280 I will be celebrating my twentieth wedding anniversary with my husband. 2:36:15.480 --> 2:36:17.879 Well, great, congratulations, thank you very much. 2:36:18.440 --> 2:36:23.920 In the early forties, I think that's quite the coup, right, So, 2:36:24.120 --> 2:36:27.680 I mean, there are absolutely ways that you can choose 2:36:27.760 --> 2:36:30.480 to invest in yourself, choose to invest in your partner, 2:36:30.680 --> 2:36:33.640 in your relationship to do the work so to speak. Yeah, 2:36:34.360 --> 2:36:36.920 but it does, yes, and there's a commitment that needs 2:36:36.959 --> 2:36:38.640 to happen there to be able to make it work. 2:36:39.000 --> 2:36:41.720 Okay, you've got a plan for celebration. 2:36:43.800 --> 2:36:46.720 It will be probably a bit of a nice long, 2:36:46.840 --> 2:36:49.520 lazy lunch, but other than that'll be a little bit 2:36:49.560 --> 2:36:49.920 low key. 2:36:50.120 --> 2:36:54.800 I think this year, okay, strikes a chord with me 2:36:55.000 --> 2:36:58.840 because over the years I've disappointed some ladies who've done 2:36:58.920 --> 2:37:01.920 something special for me on an anniversary and one said, 2:37:01.920 --> 2:37:03.480 I put a lot of work into this, you don't 2:37:03.480 --> 2:37:06.360 seem to be enjoying it. So what can I do 2:37:06.520 --> 2:37:09.000 but say, Look, I may appear calm on the surface, 2:37:09.080 --> 2:37:13.200 but inside I'm a boiling vacivious of emosion. 2:37:14.400 --> 2:37:14.959 Look, I think. 2:37:15.520 --> 2:37:18.200 One of the things that we do, and I also 2:37:18.400 --> 2:37:20.360 encourage a lot of clients to take the opportunity to 2:37:20.440 --> 2:37:24.320 do this as well, is use the anniversary moments as 2:37:24.360 --> 2:37:27.560 a chance to pause and reflect on what's working, what 2:37:27.760 --> 2:37:29.720 needs a little bit more work, or what are the 2:37:29.800 --> 2:37:32.360 things that we just don't really need to keep doing anymore, 2:37:32.560 --> 2:37:36.160 I either things that aren't really all that awesome, and 2:37:36.280 --> 2:37:38.720 then literally dust off the five or ten year plan 2:37:38.879 --> 2:37:41.320 and see where are we based on where we thought 2:37:41.360 --> 2:37:43.360 we would be. So, what have we achieved, what are 2:37:43.400 --> 2:37:46.160 we working on? What are we excited about? It's almost 2:37:46.200 --> 2:37:50.720 like a bit of a strategy session takes communication. It does, 2:37:51.000 --> 2:37:54.600 it does, and also that real depth of connection and 2:37:54.720 --> 2:37:57.920 honesty to be able to be willing to hear the 2:37:58.400 --> 2:38:01.200 real feedback from your partner and to be able to 2:38:01.280 --> 2:38:03.800 share it as well in a format and a framework 2:38:03.879 --> 2:38:06.840 that you know it's coming from a place of love, connection, 2:38:07.000 --> 2:38:08.920 and wanting to achieve more together. 2:38:09.320 --> 2:38:11.800 Well, congratulations, I think that's terrific and thank you for 2:38:11.879 --> 2:38:12.680 coming on the program. 2:38:13.400 --> 2:38:14.240 Absolute pleasure. 2:38:14.280 --> 2:38:21.480 Sir Penhalligan is a strategic psychotherapist. Sharon says, lots of 2:38:21.560 --> 2:38:24.680 emergis here. I've been in a relationship like that. This 2:38:24.879 --> 2:38:28.640 is further the conversation I just had with Ronlin. Sharon says, 2:38:28.680 --> 2:38:32.280 I just want a peaceful, honest relationship, someone with guts 2:38:32.520 --> 2:38:39.879 and faith. Hashtags single, what is the emoji before that? Chris? 2:38:41.120 --> 2:38:44.959 Oh you're not sure? Okay? I thought you'd know. Okay, 2:38:45.440 --> 2:38:50.960 you know I turned to you for emojis. I like this, 2:38:51.640 --> 2:38:55.640 Jerry says Mike, having missed the tragic song. Yeah, we 2:38:55.800 --> 2:38:58.080 just didn't get to the tragic song, did we? Having 2:38:58.160 --> 2:39:03.400 missed the tragic song? Feeling excessively happy this morning, Nothing 2:39:03.560 --> 2:39:07.520 like a good analysis of relationships to correct that. 2:39:08.360 --> 2:39:08.760 Ha ha. 2:39:10.520 --> 2:39:16.160 Yes, human beings, they're a caution, says Jerry from Sutherland. 2:39:16.920 --> 2:39:19.279 Why are you laughing when you hand me this? Jeffrey 2:39:19.320 --> 2:39:23.200 from Beverly Hills says, I seem to remember missus Slocum 2:39:23.280 --> 2:39:25.920 from Are you being served? Being concerned about keeping her 2:39:25.959 --> 2:39:28.960 pussy warm? Yes, that's right, she was worried about that 2:39:29.760 --> 2:39:33.119 a lot of the time, wasn't she. They were the days. 2:39:34.000 --> 2:39:35.680 I mean, I know it was Australian, but that was 2:39:35.840 --> 2:39:39.240 kind of Pommey humor, wasn't it, The sort of Benny 2:39:39.360 --> 2:39:44.120 Hill approach or Bennie. He became PC non PC