Speaker 1: Hallo team and welcome in for what is a massive
Speaker 1: episode that between two posts, the British and Irish lives
Speaker 1: have landed in Australia.
Speaker 2: Here they are here, come.
Speaker 1: On and to talk about what's to come for the
Speaker 1: next six weeks. What happened on the week in the
Speaker 1: Subbrubby Pacific GF Morgan Turnui, Matt Bergman, Welcome. How good
Speaker 1: it's like Christmas in late June? The twelve year wait
Speaker 1: is over?
Speaker 3: If Christmas goes for a month? Can't wait? Did we
Speaker 3: turn a couple away at Customs and Border Control? Surely
Speaker 3: they are surely we checked their papers.
Speaker 4: Do you remember I'm going to throw it back to
Speaker 4: remember when Eddie Jones came with England and they searched
Speaker 4: his bags for an hour beforehand before he came out.
Speaker 2: I hope they can him just a little bit of
Speaker 2: niggle on the way through as well. Massive squad coming
Speaker 2: down game over the weekend. We'll have a look at
Speaker 2: it a bit later. But so excited.
Speaker 4: We've been talking about this for years from a spectators
Speaker 4: level and the anticipation of the amount of people that
Speaker 4: are going to come down.
Speaker 2: I'm so pumped for this.
Speaker 3: That's the thing to it even now. You'll see they
Speaker 3: are going to be mobbed by people everywhere they go.
Speaker 3: They'll be kids outside their hotel. They'll be sixty five
Speaker 3: year old you know, Welsh grandfathers who are acting like
Speaker 3: kids as well. Just start struck by the British and
Speaker 3: Irish lines being on home soil here in Australia for us.
Speaker 3: And you know, I think anyone who's got some Irish
Speaker 3: heritage or English heritage, that that accent gets a little
Speaker 3: bit stronger the next month. It's an exciting times.
Speaker 1: Generaldy is it's a mini World Cup in terms of
Speaker 1: the energy and atmosphere that we're going to have over
Speaker 1: the next period of time.
Speaker 5: Like that's what we're talking here. It's going to be
Speaker 5: that up for the next six weeks. It's insane.
Speaker 4: An old school tour, like just game after game after
Speaker 4: game after game leading to three test matches. And that's
Speaker 4: how that's how we used to play it back in
Speaker 4: the day.
Speaker 2: Did you do the old.
Speaker 3: School tour a few Oh, you have the midweek a game.
Speaker 4: The midwik a game, and then you have to back up.
Speaker 4: If you're playing on the weekend, your.
Speaker 3: Bench backs up on the test match on the week.
Speaker 3: The good thing is you couldn't get flogged too much
Speaker 3: by the coaches because we're playing all the time that
Speaker 3: we did.
Speaker 2: Greg Smith as a coach, Yes.
Speaker 5: It's going to be huge. What are we thinking for
Speaker 5: game one?
Speaker 1: I mean we're going to go in a bit more
Speaker 1: detail a bit later around how many lines fans will
Speaker 1: be on deck at Optus on Saturday night.
Speaker 5: Big turnout, We'll huge because.
Speaker 3: There's already lots of expats in Perth. Big expat spot
Speaker 3: it is in Perth, and so that's going to be
Speaker 3: the big thing too, is just being aware how much
Speaker 3: support the lines receive. So there's a lot of responsibility
Speaker 3: on us and all Australians to get on board quickly
Speaker 3: because otherwise the two thousand and one lesson of Test one,
Speaker 3: where where Australia feels like you're away from home, will
Speaker 3: be another lesson that leeds to we learned.
Speaker 2: And it's that red jersey, isn't it.
Speaker 4: There's that iconic red jersey that people chasing, people support
Speaker 4: and you're right if you've got if you've got a
Speaker 4: little bit of heritage there, the jersey will come out
Speaker 4: and people will support and it won't be the band
Speaker 4: playing at four thirty in the morning, just be cheering
Speaker 4: away like when we used to have.
Speaker 2: It on overseas tours. It'll just be. It'll be applause
Speaker 2: and hang outside you talk.
Speaker 5: World.
Speaker 3: Can't remember we're in Leon for that Wallaby's Whales game. Yes,
Speaker 3: and that was there was no sleep night before the game.
Speaker 3: It was well singing all the way through the night
Speaker 3: in Santraville in Leon. It's going to be like that
Speaker 3: all over Australia. And we're going to have a look
Speaker 3: at the course of that Argentina lines game. In a
Speaker 3: moment you mentioned the Red Jerseys. Have a look at
Speaker 3: all of the jerseys in the crowd. They just want
Speaker 3: to be in the colors of their team.
Speaker 1: No sleep till Home Bush should be the patch cry
Speaker 1: for the next six weeks.
Speaker 5: No sleep still Home Bush Men.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about their first up loss against
Speaker 1: Argentina a little later in the show.
Speaker 5: We're going to start with a Super Rugby Final.
Speaker 1: Thank you to the Chiefs and Chris Adders for putting
Speaker 1: together another thrilling Super Rugby.
Speaker 5: Final as well.
Speaker 1: Boys tied at the end, just the one score separating
Speaker 1: for two sides Morgues, but it's the Red and Black.
Speaker 5: To get it done again against them. Well are we
Speaker 5: thinking except.
Speaker 3: For Atka except yeah, yeah, I read a broken clock
Speaker 3: is right twice a day.
Speaker 2: I read something.
Speaker 4: I read something saying if in doubt, you know, picked
Speaker 4: the Crusaders.
Speaker 2: They were. They did their job, They worked the tactics
Speaker 2: of the Chiefs out.
Speaker 4: They snuck over for that Cody Taylor try and on
Speaker 4: the left hand side was just a bit of sort
Speaker 4: of fortune down the side there Reversrahana kicked his goal,
Speaker 4: kicked that conversion, which is really important. From that, From that,
Speaker 4: Cody Trailer try control the game pretty well, but they
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 2: The Chiefs handed it to them.
Speaker 4: At the same time, they were Yeah, that's exactly right.
Speaker 4: There were some moments in this game where they just
Speaker 4: they lost the understanding of how to play and how
Speaker 4: to create territory and possession as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was interesting. You've exactly hit the nail on
Speaker 3: the head there, Burkie, that the Crusaders were able to
Speaker 3: make the Chiefs play the game they wanted to play.
Speaker 3: Chiefs need speed in the game, And if you sat
Speaker 3: through and watch that with us on the weekend, you
Speaker 3: just saw that the Chiefs really struggled to impose themselves
Speaker 3: on the match and impose their style of play on
Speaker 3: the match. The amount of pressure put on Damian McKenzie
Speaker 3: was immense and that worked well for the Crusaders. I
Speaker 3: think five or six scrum penalties to the Crusaders and
Speaker 3: they won the aerial battle and that's how they won
Speaker 3: the title. Nothing is actually almost the opposite of what
Speaker 3: we saw in Super Rugby this year with the amount
Speaker 3: of tries and expensive play. The last couple of weeks
Speaker 3: of Super Rugby was sudden death rugby, maybe a lesson
Speaker 3: for the Test rugby to come. Crusaders played finals footy
Speaker 3: once again better than anyone else.
Speaker 4: How important is it also to kick your goals like
Speaker 4: you know, I know that's tough, but you've got to
Speaker 4: be able to knock them over like you know, and
Speaker 4: you hadn't had to kick for a while.
Speaker 2: But you've got to convert, you've got to.
Speaker 4: Put your threes on, you've got to put your five
Speaker 4: to sevens and you know, when it comes down to it,
Speaker 4: and you're right, I reckon this will be a big
Speaker 4: part of it in this Test series that's coming up
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 1: They had such a good op tunity early in that
Speaker 1: second half, they charged Tubo VI charges down hope them,
Speaker 1: they scoop it up.
Speaker 5: They not five from the line, You go, how are
Speaker 5: they not going to score here?
Speaker 1: And somehow the Crusaders scrambled turn them away, I think
Speaker 1: even when a penalty not long after that, and that
Speaker 1: was basically it. So what did the Crusaders do well
Speaker 1: across the back end of that game to snuff out
Speaker 1: any hope of the Chiefs winning that title?
Speaker 4: For me, it was the double box kick near the
Speaker 4: end of the game when they went territory territory they
Speaker 4: got it. I think it was Mackenzie took the ball
Speaker 4: in on the on the first catch. He then there
Speaker 4: was a box kick again, and it was just creating territory,
Speaker 4: like you just you just know that you have to
Speaker 4: be down that end of the field, not down that
Speaker 4: in the field because there's a chance to kick a goal.
Speaker 4: So it was just I think they played a bit smarter,
Speaker 4: if that's if that's the simple way of looking at it.
Speaker 2: They got around the park a.
Speaker 4: Little bit better, there were some good kicking options that
Speaker 4: they did with Rayhannah.
Speaker 2: And they just played a little bit better.
Speaker 4: Even even Jordan at the back was able to just
Speaker 4: sort of punch a couple sliding deck in a wet ground,
Speaker 4: just make it difficult ball hit.
Speaker 2: The ground a fair but at the time just puts
Speaker 2: pressure on fullbacks.
Speaker 5: How big is Will Jordan and why is he so good?
Speaker 3: I think there's a couple of He's quick, buck, he's fast, right,
Speaker 3: and he's also able to maintain that speed while changing direction,
Speaker 3: swerves and steps and maintains power and speed through contact.
Speaker 3: So you've got to get all of him when you're tackling.
Speaker 3: He doesn't look physically imposing on some of the other
Speaker 3: big back three players we have, but the amount of
Speaker 3: force he's able to put through contact because he's such
Speaker 3: a balance runner and he does the basics right, and
Speaker 3: he does the basics right time and time again. His
Speaker 3: kick receipt and organization of back three, coupled with his
Speaker 3: attacking kick chase and aerial battle, I think that was
Speaker 3: a huge part of the reason they win this game.
Speaker 3: That's a turnover. If the Chiefs get it middle of
Speaker 3: the park, they can try and get some of that
Speaker 3: speed into the game that we talked about playoff unstructured play,
Speaker 3: which they want to, but he took that away from them,
Speaker 3: and there's a little bit of a cause effect from
Speaker 3: what Burkey is saying. McKenzie misses a goal to get
Speaker 3: the Chiefs in front, it's a different game. If the
Speaker 3: Crusaders are chasing the game, they're not able to do
Speaker 3: what they did there. So the Crusaders are able to
Speaker 3: play like front runners, and the Chiefs the onus was
Speaker 3: on them. Okay, we'll kick the ball to you. Chiefs,
Speaker 3: what are you going to do? You're going to run
Speaker 3: it back eighty or you're going to give the ball
Speaker 3: back to Will Jordan to make you play again.
Speaker 4: There's that proactive in reactive kicking, isn't there? And I
Speaker 4: think the Chiefs were reacting to the situation having to
Speaker 4: sort of put pressure on themselves to.
Speaker 2: Be able to get out of territory.
Speaker 4: Crusaders were able just to ping the corners and it
Speaker 4: was a game of chess out there, and they were
Speaker 4: playing it much better.
Speaker 1: James I kind of comes on and it's checkmate in
Speaker 1: favor of the Crusaders at the back end. What about
Speaker 1: him after all those many years of super Robi booting eight.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it was ahead of his test taboo
Speaker 1: in Padaua in Italy with quite alongside. I think we're
Speaker 1: going back to our eight. I mean, what a journey.
Speaker 5: It's speaking for him, it's twenty twenty five, now, what.
Speaker 4: A journey, and sneaking left hand side with about a
Speaker 4: minute and a half to play, he got his hand
Speaker 4: on the ball and sort of you know, contributed a
Speaker 4: bit in that final. But I think his contribution throughout
Speaker 4: the year has been great. You know, he spoke about
Speaker 4: his role has been the experienced player when we spoke
Speaker 4: him the other week about sort of you know, the
Speaker 4: brains trust of being able to sort of you know,
Speaker 4: coordinate chat going back and forth and really throwing it
Speaker 4: up and being abracive. I suppose you could say, as
Speaker 4: you mentioned, but he's just got some he's just got
Speaker 4: some calmness about him. He's got some maturity about him.
Speaker 4: I think that's that's one of the one of the
Speaker 4: great things that obviously the Crusader saw in.
Speaker 5: Him in that chat with him.
Speaker 1: Did it come up what happened in terms where he
Speaker 1: was going to live in christ Church when he lobbed there.
Speaker 1: Did that come up? I'm sure we mind me sharing
Speaker 1: the story. So we had him as part of our
Speaker 1: coverage last year throughout the Spring tour, come in what
Speaker 1: game it was? He was in here with us, but
Speaker 1: it was awesome having Jock on deck. And he was
Speaker 1: just going through that process and moving over to christ
Speaker 1: Church and had found a place that he and his
Speaker 1: partner wanted us stay in. And they had the manager
Speaker 1: who was helping him and facility hating it. And he said,
Speaker 1: we found a place and they said, oh, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: but we've got some other spots. And he said that okay,
Speaker 1: but we kind of really want this spot, and sort
Speaker 1: of goes back and forth a couple of times, and
Speaker 1: and then eventually the Crusaders kind of gently say.
Speaker 5: We don't stay in that spot. That's not what we're about.
Speaker 5: That's not what we're about.
Speaker 1: We're all in these pockets of suburbs around christ Church
Speaker 1: so that we have that sense of family togetherness. Your
Speaker 1: partner will be able to hang out with Rivers's girlfriend
Speaker 1: as an example, you know, just an example, Sev's family
Speaker 1: down the road there, and so they're they're pocketed and
Speaker 1: they're tight knit in that way shape and form off
Speaker 1: field as well, which I found fascinating. He goes, oh, okay, sweet,
Speaker 1: of course, I'll go where you want me to so
Speaker 1: he's made it work over there really nicely.
Speaker 4: Maybe that's a part of I look at newsath last
Speaker 4: you're a ram mckway when Northern Beach as a way,
Speaker 4: you've got Cronulla, everyone's sort of probably too far apart.
Speaker 4: So you could see why that that cohesion is a
Speaker 4: part of it as well.
Speaker 3: And we said with the Brumbisi and Hamburg as well,
Speaker 3: that sort of stuff just geographically to get a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but the brave decision from James Oconna could have looked
Speaker 3: overseas again, gone and tried to earn some money at
Speaker 3: the back end. But I was a guy who still
Speaker 3: wanted to improve, still wanted to learn. He would have
Speaker 3: learned so much this season, as we discussed with him
Speaker 3: last week. But he into the final and then ends
Speaker 3: up being a champion. He was their closer. He was
Speaker 3: coming at the end, manage the team around the park,
Speaker 3: her crew points when needed. He did it really well.
Speaker 3: He was a crucial part of their title win from
Speaker 3: the season.
Speaker 5: What about Rob Penny. Rob Penny just be smiling into it.
Speaker 1: They were ninth last year, they finished ninth and now
Speaker 1: a bit of cattle back and away we go. Mertz
Speaker 1: was quick to remind us all believe Metz was very quick.
Speaker 3: He was very chirky on what's happening.
Speaker 1: The Crusader's account blessed him as well. When they saw
Speaker 1: that we posted.
Speaker 5: Chief Chief Chief Chief Chief Chief and at.
Speaker 1: COO's gone Crusaders. The Crusaders wrote up, Michael is our
Speaker 1: favorite presenter anyway. I was like, it's good, good on
Speaker 1: you guys. So the Chiefs suffer a third straight Grand
Speaker 1: Final loss.
Speaker 5: What for them now with CLATMMT and moving on coach
Speaker 5: leaving might be tricky.
Speaker 3: They'll still be there and thereabouts. They're the same. They
Speaker 3: look at their list, what's the lessons they learned from
Speaker 3: this season? Really, they probably paid the price for not
Speaker 3: hosting the final that's the big one, that Week one
Speaker 3: finals against the Blues. I think they will rue that,
Speaker 3: But in terms of their play and their game, it's
Speaker 3: it's probably what's our plan be going to be in
Speaker 3: a match like that. You know, the physical nature of
Speaker 3: that game is very similar to the loss of the Blues,
Speaker 3: which was a fortnight before. So there's two teams that
Speaker 3: were able to stifle them, were able to beat them
Speaker 3: when it counted, So there's you know, they'll come top
Speaker 3: two or three next year they'll be thereabouts. They've got
Speaker 3: the cattle, of course, can they learn the lesson of scrum,
Speaker 3: breakdown and territory how that final was won?
Speaker 4: A new coach come in then more God ask you
Speaker 4: this is your domain? Does he come in and change
Speaker 4: up everything? Or is it a Chiefs wave of playing
Speaker 4: because the coach wanted to get their fingerprints.
Speaker 3: All right, you're not coming in and taking over them.
Speaker 3: That won the spoon, so you don't need to change everything.
Speaker 3: I think it's a great team to come into because
Speaker 3: it would have been tough to come in up of
Speaker 3: just winning the camp. So if you're the new coach,
Speaker 3: you come in, you go okay, this is what we
Speaker 3: need to do to take the next that We are
Speaker 3: not rebuilding a pyramid here, yep, we are just putting
Speaker 3: the capstone on top.
Speaker 1: Next up, fellas for a lot of those men that
Speaker 1: were on display on the weekend will be the all
Speaker 1: backs up against France. Five debutantes in Scott Robinson squad.
Speaker 1: I'll quickly give those too, Oline Norris, Brodie mcalsro out
Speaker 1: of the Chiefs, Fabian Hole and the big boy from
Speaker 1: the hiwnas our man, Timothy taba taba. Now I get
Speaker 1: a spot and finally do per see carey fear.
Speaker 5: Our favorite Hurry Kane gets a shot as well.
Speaker 1: So they've got France coming up through June.
Speaker 5: You know what we've got through the end of June.
Speaker 1: I'm talking this weekend and July and the rest that'll
Speaker 1: be the British and Irish lines who went down on
Speaker 1: the weekend to Argentina. Now, the last time these two
Speaker 1: sides met was ahead of the two thousand and five
Speaker 1: tour of New Zealand where it was a twenty five
Speaker 1: all draw.
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure it took some Wilkins and magic late
Speaker 5: to draw it.
Speaker 1: However, going to this game, it's in Dublin, Argentina are
Speaker 1: missing nine of their best.
Speaker 5: You're thinking Puma is going to get pounded here.
Speaker 1: The algorithm had them is eighteen point underdogs and then
Speaker 1: explain to the good people at home what happens fellas.
Speaker 4: More you use some of that well when you talk
Speaker 4: about the four the four countries coming together and you've
Speaker 4: got to find that cohesion, and that's what it was.
Speaker 2: It was just clunky on the weekend.
Speaker 4: You know, there was a there was miss reads, there
Speaker 4: was holes down the middle when they were running. You know,
Speaker 4: you talk about effort areas at the same time, it
Speaker 4: was just sort of you know, wrong shape, wrong time,
Speaker 4: wrong position, wrong time, wrong place, wrong time, and well,
Speaker 4: don't take anything away from Argentina, eve though I thought
Speaker 4: they played outstanding rugby, but it was a case of
Speaker 4: I think that clunkiness was basically that the ability to
Speaker 4: play in a game at high tempo for the first
Speaker 4: for the first time, and they got shown up there.
Speaker 4: I mean this one, I wrack around the corner, the
Speaker 4: forwards didn't roll around the corner too much. There's a
Speaker 4: poor read from the from the wing of their freemen,
Speaker 4: and they're just some good feet to finish with. Vader
Speaker 4: Mrva gets turned inside out there by the winger and
Speaker 4: try time, so all of a sudden, yeah, there's pressure
Speaker 4: out there as well.
Speaker 2: I mean to look at that crowd as well.
Speaker 5: The finish was their pick.
Speaker 3: So those couple of tries completely sum up almost what
Speaker 3: you'd expect from this year. You maybe thought the lines
Speaker 3: might have enough firepower, maybe up front the score some
Speaker 3: more tries, couple of breakout tries from individual bruins, but
Speaker 3: this was always going to be what that perform is
Speaker 3: going to look like a couple of really poor defensive
Speaker 3: decisions which are completely understandable and will not be there
Speaker 3: by the time they play the Wallabies. That's the big one.
Speaker 3: They'll be gone. That won't be there. That Freeman bites
Speaker 3: on No. One, Smith's late and van der Merber was
Speaker 3: over there. So if they don't get cooked there, they
Speaker 3: cooked the other side as well. They're just there's four
Speaker 3: good venda Merber has. How many times is he defended
Speaker 3: with Marcus Smith in the backfield?
Speaker 5: Rarely?
Speaker 3: Right, they're going to have every field session they have,
Speaker 3: they're going to be better, more understanding. I would have
Speaker 3: thought six to nine changes to the Test team when
Speaker 3: it comes in a different nine and ten starting for
Speaker 3: absolute certainty. Right, So this is one, it's one of
Speaker 3: let's start with. It's one of the great victories in
Speaker 3: the history of Argentinian rugby, right up there with their
Speaker 3: World Cup semifinals, their wins over New Zealand and New
Speaker 3: Zealand being the British and Irish Lions. PHELI play contempomi,
Speaker 3: your team, your staff, congratulations, that's pretty cool, right, But
Speaker 3: if you're the Lions, do you there's some positivity in
Speaker 3: the content, lots to refine around defense. Their line out
Speaker 3: needs a lot of work, lots and bits and pieces
Speaker 3: around the way they played. But they had some adventurous
Speaker 3: stuff they did in attack with which once they get
Speaker 3: more time together, we'll be poping now, Burkie. The big
Speaker 3: one is we saw Gatland's lines go to South Africa
Speaker 3: and play zero rugby. Right, just try and be in
Speaker 3: that fight. Nearly won the series. There was a tight series,
Speaker 3: right could have gone either way. This line's team on
Speaker 3: the weekend played more rugby than any Lions team since
Speaker 3: about two thousand and one. Are they going to stick
Speaker 3: with that? Should they stick with that? And if they do,
Speaker 3: does it make them more vulnerable or should they go
Speaker 3: scrum territory more points.
Speaker 2: Stay a UK focused top. You see Marcus Smith at
Speaker 2: one stage there ball goes through, grab a kick through.
Speaker 4: He did the dummy show and go on the line
Speaker 4: and he's done that at Harlequin's and he goes one hundred.
Speaker 4: Basically Argentina won't have anything of it. And he got
Speaker 4: absolutely iced over the try line and he tried to
Speaker 4: keep gay. It's a really it's a great debate because
Speaker 4: that track the other day was pure afternoon evening game.
Speaker 2: It was slick.
Speaker 4: It didn't seem like there was too much sort of
Speaker 4: you know, humidity up there with you. And that's what
Speaker 4: they're going to have to deal with in Australia as
Speaker 4: well nighttime. A bit of humidity. The ball is going
Speaker 4: to be difficult to play. Do they then revert back
Speaker 4: to that ten men.
Speaker 2: Rugby time number? I don't think they will. I think
Speaker 2: they'll play.
Speaker 4: I think they've got the back line to be able
Speaker 4: to play, knowing that they can muscle their way up front.
Speaker 4: You know their scrum and line that's going to be good.
Speaker 4: But I reckon they'll be able to play with a
Speaker 4: bit of width.
Speaker 1: As well on the counter attack. Argentina, how does Alborn
Speaker 1: was his try right on half time? Is this ended
Speaker 1: up being the sort of moment that set them on
Speaker 1: the path to, as you say, Molls, one of, if
Speaker 1: not their greatest ever victory.
Speaker 5: You thought, look, okay, this is cool.
Speaker 1: Staff stuns only maybe Lions will score a try. Maybe
Speaker 1: they're going to Then they get loose inside the twenty
Speaker 1: two and then Argentina go okay, let's play.
Speaker 3: But look at that clump of jerseys and look at
Speaker 3: them breakout like that that is that is one of
Speaker 3: the great points of difference to Argentina and Rugby, the
Speaker 3: counter punish ability, the unstructured ability, the catch pass qualities
Speaker 3: as absolutely outstanding. That's that's just something you're going to
Speaker 3: see from Argentina a lot all the way through to
Speaker 3: r C.
Speaker 4: Well, don't you don't you love the ability to pick
Speaker 4: a line and choose a line and support play and
Speaker 4: you've got you've got inside outside options there and when
Speaker 4: you're when you're frantic in defense in.
Speaker 2: Marcus Smith, the head was rocking backwards. Point It's come
Speaker 2: back to me.
Speaker 4: When you got when you got players going inside outside
Speaker 4: and you got options there, the game becomes so easy.
Speaker 2: I reckon, I reckon.
Speaker 4: The permise showed more energy than the lines over the
Speaker 4: wee again, I thought they. I thought there was on
Speaker 4: occasion there that were just sort of just lacking.
Speaker 2: A little bit.
Speaker 4: And and if you if there's only so many moments
Speaker 4: in games when you've got a chance Morgs and you've
Speaker 4: you've been in that test arena and you know it.
Speaker 4: There's there's two or three opportunities and you've got to
Speaker 4: take it.
Speaker 2: If you don't, you're full part.
Speaker 3: I'm interested to wonder what the training load has been like,
Speaker 3: because you say they were out enthus maybe they've trained
Speaker 3: through that match. They've gone, you know what, this match
Speaker 3: is part of our pre but we're going to train
Speaker 3: all the way through to get as much work into
Speaker 3: ourselves as we can. We have a little glimpse a
Speaker 3: couple of times of the mall and how good it's
Speaker 3: going to be. This one ends up being a penalty try.
Speaker 3: There's probably a couple of infringements there before the one
Speaker 3: that gives away the penalty try and make sure that
Speaker 3: was collapsing the mall. But you know that's going to
Speaker 3: be part of it, isn't it. There's going to be
Speaker 3: their ability to shift the ball like Ireland, to change
Speaker 3: the picture and shift. But there'll still be a core
Speaker 3: base game of if the Wallabies are ill disciplined or
Speaker 3: the Super Rugby province is real disciplined. Then there's a
Speaker 3: line out India twenty two and there's a moll coming, then.
Speaker 5: The boomback rail comes on.
Speaker 3: Pollick, Yeah, Burkie running on.
Speaker 2: That was it was just the.
Speaker 4: Crowd ready to go and he saw the camera there
Speaker 4: that's right, I'm on the big screen and here we go.
Speaker 2: Great. Look, it is a part of.
Speaker 4: The modern world, isn't it, Like you know, just the
Speaker 4: hype up of younger players and understanding. So again this
Speaker 4: is all out of my show real. At the same time,
Speaker 4: the problem was you've got to be able to back
Speaker 4: it up, and he got He got brushed for their
Speaker 4: for their try. Curry came up really quickly on the
Speaker 4: on the charge. They probably didn't need to that. They
Speaker 4: had Argentina under pressure and he just got a nice
Speaker 4: little friend off. Yes, I was like, and we can
Speaker 4: do his chase?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he wasn't chasing quick enough. How do you
Speaker 1: think Aussie fans will respond to this? Will they embrace it?
Speaker 1: The Oussie fans know who Pollock is.
Speaker 3: They will after this. Well, he's going to be good
Speaker 3: in the midweek games. I'm not sure you'll be a
Speaker 3: Test team. Look mate, you be you kid like, go
Speaker 3: for it and then you know what, back it up.
Speaker 3: It's going to be good. He's been picked on the
Speaker 3: potential that's coming. He's going to be a gun international footballer.
Speaker 3: He's not quite there yet. He'll get so much out
Speaker 3: of this tour. He'll get some rugby in the midweek game.
Speaker 3: Justus training fans. I think he might be a little
Speaker 3: bit of villain to him. I might, you know, there
Speaker 3: might be some jeering in that, but you're going to
Speaker 3: see a good football.
Speaker 1: Ozsi fans don't really get stuck in like they are
Speaker 1: in the North or other parts of the world today.
Speaker 5: He got his cat, you go.
Speaker 3: It's just gonna be funny watching Scottish, Irish and Wealth
Speaker 3: fans cheering for him.
Speaker 5: That's the best thing.
Speaker 3: That's the Lions, that's the that's the lines, but grudgingly
Speaker 3: cheering each other, it's going to be great.
Speaker 1: What's what caught your eye between forty nine thirty five
Speaker 1: fifty twenty five on the match clock.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little bit of the thing we've been
Speaker 3: talking about is just what the Lions are trying to
Speaker 3: do in attack. It's it's adventurous and it needs refining.
Speaker 3: That's sort of the theme with our chat. But they're
Speaker 3: going to want to get into those three mans shapes.
Speaker 3: They're going to want their tens out the back super connected.
Speaker 3: But they also wanted to bounce back a few times
Speaker 3: if they don't get carried. See that sweep sweep stack play.
Speaker 3: So they have four players together. They want to sweep
Speaker 3: left and then they want to just get into it.
Speaker 3: Like you'll see Island do have players appear in the
Speaker 3: eye line of defenses later, and anytime they did they
Speaker 3: sort of had a negative or neutral carry. They look
Speaker 3: to bounce back. But there's that's quite adventurous off a
Speaker 3: sideline going pull back, pull back, get to width. Now
Speaker 3: I think the Wallabies will try and climb into that shape,
Speaker 3: but there's the rich reward on both sides. You want
Speaker 3: to take on a thin rustle out the back there,
Speaker 3: you want to take on a two below to if
Speaker 3: he moves into twelves, I expect you will. There's danger
Speaker 3: for the Wallabies going in and getting that. But if
Speaker 3: you don't try and get off your line and try
Speaker 3: and disrupt it, then they can outflank you. So I
Speaker 3: think that's a little hint of how much work the
Speaker 3: lines still have to do. But how potent that attack
Speaker 3: can be with some of the cattle there.
Speaker 2: How do the wall they stop that? In defense?
Speaker 4: They do they rush defense because we've seen we're sending
Speaker 4: that outside. In defense when they've got some depth on it,
Speaker 4: you can be caught in no man's land with that
Speaker 4: ball over the top there. So do they give, do
Speaker 4: they wait or that do they rush and try and
Speaker 4: shut down.
Speaker 3: I think the big thing is going to be how
Speaker 3: quick the rock ball is. If it's slow rockball leading
Speaker 3: into that and the lines brave enough to still try
Speaker 3: and go out the back, then the Wallabies can tee
Speaker 3: off and go through it. But if they have good
Speaker 3: positive carries from their forward pack, you can't blitz that.
Speaker 3: So what you really want is on that three man
Speaker 3: shape that the short line that goes at the back
Speaker 3: of that defender's got to push off and get in that.
Speaker 3: That's where that's where the break in the system can be.
Speaker 3: If someone turns their hips and shoulders in, that's where
Speaker 3: they'll get you. And a fin Russell coming around the
Speaker 3: corner is going to be dangerous. And a matc Hansen
Speaker 3: or a Low or someone off a wing who's such
Speaker 3: a hard worker they're in and around that space. They're
Speaker 3: not going to go around the Wallabies, They're going to
Speaker 3: go through them. If you don't get that right, so
Speaker 3: so much is going to be the mcwrights and Tazanos
Speaker 3: and guys like that breakdown stopping the speed of racket.
Speaker 1: Sauce Bern was too quick off the pass of Williams
Speaker 1: to put them in front. So that kind of had
Speaker 1: everyone at the Aviva.
Speaker 5: Going as a lovely great line, great line, great.
Speaker 4: Look at the hand, thought me, I mean, but the
Speaker 4: awareness for the two players inside not to have a
Speaker 4: crab at that ball when that try line is beckoning.
Speaker 2: That was a fantastic play.
Speaker 1: They're they're not often seeing double faceball, yeah, triple faceball
Speaker 1: past two to one three, triple faceball not often seen.
Speaker 1: And then the match winning try to Santiago Cordero.
Speaker 3: So this is a macrom just because of what it meant.
Speaker 3: It is the decisive score of the match. And they're
Speaker 3: in defensive mode. They're in hold on mode here Argentina,
Speaker 3: but they wanted to go a field occupation. He beats
Speaker 3: a couple. Then the grubber is absolutely outstanding as well,
Speaker 3: and get the bounce and don't underestimate the bounce and
Speaker 3: put down here with the despairing Marcus Smith, an historic
Speaker 3: moment in the history of Argentina.
Speaker 5: I was hoping you'd give us.
Speaker 2: I can I just ask one thing more?
Speaker 4: Can M could they've made this try a little bit easier,
Speaker 4: like an inside pass now and going straight they've gone outside.
Speaker 2: They chose obviously they.
Speaker 5: Way. That's not the way.
Speaker 2: It's good finish.
Speaker 3: You don't get bottles of champagne from the easy.
Speaker 1: Such a good finish, such a good score, such a
Speaker 1: good game of footing. Before we move on to the
Speaker 1: next little bit, I've had an idea. What's it all right,
Speaker 1: our man, James Dolman. I thought you did a really good
Speaker 1: job the other.
Speaker 5: Night in that match.
Speaker 1: I thought he was underne at times. I'm not going
Speaker 1: against you.
Speaker 3: Did you not see the knock on the try? Which
Speaker 3: one took them ten minutes to work it out? Which
Speaker 3: one the early try?
Speaker 2: First try?
Speaker 5: Listen?
Speaker 1: Listen now, fellas, this is what we need to get
Speaker 1: in placed for the au n Z game and then
Speaker 1: for the three test matches.
Speaker 5: We'll use that as a trial game.
Speaker 1: There is nothing what I see in life that being
Speaker 1: given something and then haven't taken away from you. If
Speaker 1: you're a Lions fan, try awarded and then they go
Speaker 1: about eight phases try taken away?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 5: We all agree on that.
Speaker 1: We also hate having the game blown up for an
Speaker 1: incident that's taken place six phases earlier. Then none of
Speaker 1: us know what's going on. The answer to this is
Speaker 1: simple from a broadcast perspective and from a TMO option
Speaker 1: as well. All we do from now on is if
Speaker 1: the TMO is reviewing something live, going back and forth
Speaker 1: potential foul play, we pop up the little ticker on
Speaker 1: the screen that says TMO reviewing play potential foul play
Speaker 1: number one lines.
Speaker 5: So at least we know that if a try is scored.
Speaker 1: You might get it taken off you you know, ahead
Speaker 1: of time, then it might be stripped back, and then
Speaker 1: if it's clear, TMO clears play and on we go. Otherwise,
Speaker 1: we have incidents on the other night where Dolman is
Speaker 1: stopping the game because the TMO is getting involved when
Speaker 1: he shouldn't have been, because you've got wrong a couple
Speaker 1: of times, and then we all go, what's happening here?
Speaker 5: Do you want to thought?
Speaker 2: You want that in the big screen, big screen and.
Speaker 5: On Channel nine and on the big screen as well.
Speaker 3: Like a tone like you're having the league now with
Speaker 3: the six again.
Speaker 1: The broadcasters do that so well, didn't meeting something upper
Speaker 1: pops ticker? Oh shit, we might have this try taken
Speaker 1: office because Morgan took old mate's head off.
Speaker 5: Six phases back.
Speaker 1: But at least then you know what's happening and you're
Speaker 1: part of the process.
Speaker 5: Do you know what I mean? You're across what's going
Speaker 5: on there?
Speaker 3: No, the massive issue?
Speaker 5: What's the issue?
Speaker 3: Logic? Too much logic?
Speaker 1: Can we get it in? Can we get it happening?
Speaker 1: That's not a hard thing to do. That was Brumby's
Speaker 1: war at the same Thank you very much, TMO reviewing
Speaker 1: play potential knock on good audition.
Speaker 3: Do you want to bring it up in January?
Speaker 5: Say again, I just the French team at least then
Speaker 5: you know what's happened.
Speaker 3: I don't think you're getting it for lines too?
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 5: Well? Why not?
Speaker 3: Because things move at the glacial pace.
Speaker 5: It's not that hard mate.
Speaker 1: All it is is you've already got an open line
Speaker 1: from team owner, director and the truck basically, so all
Speaker 1: it is is a t he goes, he just goes
Speaker 1: a hammer just on a look, haven't got control?
Speaker 5: And then away you go like that.
Speaker 3: It's not easy that all you need is okay from
Speaker 3: referees lines and.
Speaker 1: Makes total sense, doesn't it? Broadcast from a fan perspective.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I can see that. Send it to someone. It's
Speaker 4: a good idea. It's a good it is because but
Speaker 4: it's good. It takes away that they're not knowing.
Speaker 5: Okay, not knowing.
Speaker 3: So when I try scored and you think that's happening,
Speaker 3: are you going to go big on the try or
Speaker 3: you're going to subdue?
Speaker 1: You have to go to go because it's probably going
Speaker 1: to get scrapped right likely it's going to get taken off.
Speaker 3: Because there's been some big like try commentaries and replays.
Speaker 3: They're going to go back.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you got to go.
Speaker 3: You've got to go, stay with it.
Speaker 1: You've got to go interesting, Okay to go.
Speaker 5: So Lions lose that game.
Speaker 1: Does it change anything? Does it Does it change? Does
Speaker 1: it change the likelihood of a Wallabys win or I
Speaker 1: mean it doesn't.
Speaker 3: It makes it. It makes probably slowly more dangerous because
Speaker 3: they're not they're going to be complacent. Not that they were,
Speaker 3: but there's no we're good here boys.
Speaker 1: So they are here in Australia, touchdown in Perth. They
Speaker 1: got the Western Force this weekend and as you said
Speaker 1: at the top of the show, fellas plenty of people
Speaker 1: on hand to welp them in and give them the
Speaker 1: high five. These are giants of the game in the
Speaker 1: North and across the globe. And then we've got them
Speaker 1: and the Aussies coming together as well. So the Wallabies
Speaker 1: have assembled in Sydney. I quite like the embraces that
Speaker 1: the Wallabies offered up as well. They were they were
Speaker 1: back in camp and hugging it out and.
Speaker 4: Yeah we go yeah, yeah, all you know, old rivalries
Speaker 4: are put aside because there's a common goal. It was
Speaker 4: great more than we used to go into camp like
Speaker 4: you rock up there. It was you talk about Christmas,
Speaker 4: it was light Christmas going in there. The amount of
Speaker 4: kit used to get in, the boots that came through
Speaker 4: with it, and then just understanding that there's a job
Speaker 4: to be done, you know, and you quickly re equate
Speaker 4: yourself with with mates you've been trying to built in
Speaker 4: the last of you know, four months.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a bit more work for the younger
Speaker 3: players like me Burkey having to deliver all your kit
Speaker 3: to your room all that sort of stuff, but you
Speaker 3: know it's still fun. That's it's great Wallabies, Josh. We
Speaker 3: talked about them really trying hard to make connection throughout
Speaker 3: Super Rugby and had that Wallabie Australian Rugby first mindset.
Speaker 3: That's what's to come on about week one the Perth
Speaker 3: this weekend, but you've got Reds and Tars next week
Speaker 3: into a Wallaby's Test match against Fiji. So yeah, Wallaby
Speaker 3: is in camp yesterday training and meetings and some team
Speaker 3: building stuff. Lots of work to be done for them
Speaker 3: to be prepared for Fiji too.
Speaker 5: Thoughts on the squad, I look, I like it.
Speaker 4: I like it, I like I like the Will Skelton
Speaker 4: inclusion as well the two debutantes Chabing decrept me and
Speaker 4: also Corey Tool. I like it because I think this
Speaker 4: is well He's chosen on full I reckon because sometimes
Speaker 4: reputation can can choose in these ones.
Speaker 2: There's a couple of.
Speaker 4: Guys obviously there who haven't played a great deal of
Speaker 4: footier as well. You know, Joseph Sutle is on screen
Speaker 4: now and then Max Jorgenson. You know, you're looking at
Speaker 4: those guys and they will get a run and they
Speaker 4: will contribute to what it is. But look, I'm liking
Speaker 4: where they are at the moment. The number ten is
Speaker 4: going to be crucial for me as to whom he chooses,
Speaker 4: and the three guys that are there all played well
Speaker 4: throughout the year. I still don't know who the choice
Speaker 4: is I would be leaning along the lines of a
Speaker 4: liner in that space.
Speaker 3: Interesting to see what they do there and even you know,
Speaker 3: this is the announcement of the squad at Stanmore Public
Speaker 3: School in Western Sydney. What they do with you know,
Speaker 3: who goes back to Reds, who's with Tarzan? Some of
Speaker 3: the guys have been left in Perth from that Wallaby,
Speaker 3: He's got to play this weekend to make sure the
Speaker 3: provinces are strong. And then what does Joe Schmidt do?
Speaker 3: Is it the number one starting fifteen that he envises
Speaker 3: playing against the Lions in Brisbane that he rolls out
Speaker 3: against Fiji? Does he tweak it? Is he looking for
Speaker 3: game time to Chatti's around slily? He is ready to
Speaker 3: go in outstanding form and it might be a tiny
Speaker 3: blessing in disguise that he had this mini pre season
Speaker 3: with Tom Carter leading into a line series.
Speaker 5: Lyons series obviously starts this weekend.
Speaker 1: Just quickly get a word on what the lines seem
Speaker 1: like they go full noise with their team after last
Speaker 1: week or what's going to happen.
Speaker 3: I think the big dogs will come in. I would
Speaker 3: have thought you'd see Gibson Park and Russell at nine
Speaker 3: and ten. That's what I'm doing. Seriously, that's what I'm
Speaker 3: doing because look where they are from from the Test match,
Speaker 3: They've got time. They need to get the combinations right.
Speaker 3: I can see maybe a two Polow two sliding into
Speaker 3: twelve hopefully. I think you might see some big dogs.
Speaker 5: Wow. Yeah, Well, I'll tell you what fellas.
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Speaker 1: I think Timmy's there on Wednesday doing some interviews with
Speaker 1: fans from the lines as well. Berky before we push on,
Speaker 1: before we unload on the rest of the week. A
Speaker 1: chance for you to take a quick trip down memory
Speaker 1: lane two thousand and one because you were part of
Speaker 1: that will it He's winning site?
Speaker 2: Yes, two thousand and one.
Speaker 4: It was a really interesting time because, like the still
Speaker 4: is now, we get this sense of the enormity of
Speaker 4: what is the lines, but we did not know what was.
Speaker 2: Coming our way. We played at the Gabba and we're.
Speaker 4: Driving there and all we saw it was just a
Speaker 4: sea of red jerseys. And if you watch the documentary
Speaker 4: that they did for this game, Johnson walks back to
Speaker 4: the change room and says, boys, this is a home game,
Speaker 4: this is all ours. And all I remember in that
Speaker 4: game was well one sitting on the sideline to start with,
Speaker 4: because I didn't get a start. I came on for
Speaker 4: this one, and this is where you try and shut
Speaker 4: someone down by going forward. Oh, we just got to
Speaker 4: make the tackle though. That was the only thing I put.
Speaker 4: I'm on the highlights reel of Brian O'Driscoll. Incredible play.
Speaker 4: I got run over by Cornell just there. Thanks for
Speaker 4: it coming. And I scored no points in that game.
Speaker 4: We had We had an incredible change up because the
Speaker 4: speed of the game, we hadn't seen anything like it.
Speaker 4: You talk about that game over the weekend Walks that
Speaker 4: was played with a bit of width and a bit
Speaker 4: of speed. That game there was We were frantic, you know,
Speaker 4: you need to talk about sort of combinations and.
Speaker 2: Cohesion.
Speaker 4: We had nothing out there, and I think I do
Speaker 4: remember Herbie, you know, saying to our defensive coach, John Muggleton.
Speaker 2: He came out, he ran out and he said stick
Speaker 2: with the systems.
Speaker 4: And Herbie basically said, mate, the systems aren't working, you know,
Speaker 4: like with a few more adjectives in there, and we
Speaker 4: were just sort of looking at each other, going what's
Speaker 4: going on. So the pace of the game was huge,
Speaker 4: physicality was massive, and then we literally had to lick
Speaker 4: our wounds because we got absolutely pumped in that first
Speaker 4: game realizing the enormity of it. If we lose the
Speaker 4: next game in Melbourne, we are shot ducks. And then
Speaker 4: it all changed around, and you know, the whole mindset
Speaker 4: changed going down to Melbourne. Even from a Rugby Australia
Speaker 4: or aiu's perspective, they gave everyone yellow beanies, They gave everyone,
Speaker 4: you know, yellow scarves, gold beans, gold scarves, and so
Speaker 4: all of a sudden we had this presence around the game.
Speaker 4: But that first half still, I think we turned at
Speaker 4: eleven six and we were so out of the game still.
Speaker 2: You know, I talk about this series that we.
Speaker 4: Won one and a half games versus one and a
Speaker 4: half games. Only by the last one we started to
Speaker 4: get a riggle on that second half.
Speaker 2: Joe scored two tries.
Speaker 4: Joe Roth that was melon threw a great pill over
Speaker 4: the top there and we just ground them literally into
Speaker 4: the turf. Wilkinson got injured in that game. He went
Speaker 4: off on a stretcher. We're thinking, is he going to
Speaker 4: play next week? Of course he was. He was going
Speaker 4: to get off the deck. And this was the this
Speaker 4: was the final game. That was Herbie Paster me couldn't
Speaker 4: move my arm because my rexstructed shoulder.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm going to blame.
Speaker 4: But that was it thirty five fourteen, and it was
Speaker 4: It was a real watershed moment to say we can.
Speaker 2: Keep up with him and we can battle these guys.
Speaker 4: You know, I think it's Stephen Larkin gets injured in
Speaker 4: that game, so we had to change it around for
Speaker 4: Elton Flatley comes in for the third Test match. So
Speaker 4: all of a sudden we had a bit of we
Speaker 4: had a bit of a struggle and adversity ourselves, but
Speaker 4: it was just this magic moment going to the Third
Speaker 4: Test and then we know the story about Justin Harrison,
Speaker 4: we know the story about.
Speaker 2: Leading into it.
Speaker 4: We're out at paramatter, camped out there and the noise
Speaker 4: Morgs as you meant already mentioned that the games that
Speaker 4: you play the midweekers, you know, trying to rough them
Speaker 4: up the most, you know, good that game in Canberra,
Speaker 4: the angriness that came about it. So all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: there's this bit of volatility in this last game eighty
Speaker 4: eighty five thousand at Stadium Australia. The Aussies were in
Speaker 4: that section, the lines were in that section. Mem was
Speaker 4: the no roof back in the day, so all the
Speaker 4: noise went up and the Aussie noise came in and
Speaker 4: from there so we got this great run and for
Speaker 4: me special occasion, my fiftieth Test match running out there
Speaker 4: and we were able.
Speaker 2: To put pressure on them.
Speaker 4: You were able to put pressure on the score line
Speaker 4: changed or the lead changed I think about eight times
Speaker 4: in this game.
Speaker 2: Wilkinson noted a couple over.
Speaker 4: We both missed a couple of crucial goals at the
Speaker 4: same time. Wilkinson scores won just after halftime with a
Speaker 4: great little in a later run at one runs at.
Speaker 2: Two steps careful I think it was kef gets a
Speaker 2: bit caught. There's one off the post there. Thanks for coming.
Speaker 2: I missed a sitter after that as well. So pressures
Speaker 2: to play a.
Speaker 4: Massive part in these games, you know, coming up. And
Speaker 4: this was the last play. Matt Cobain spike that ball,
Speaker 4: you get a back, walks, runs it off. Griggs and
Speaker 4: Keff come together and do the cigars. That was That
Speaker 4: was the red wine and cigars for afterwards there is
Speaker 4: and we had this incredible momentum shift and the crowd
Speaker 4: experiences as well because you go back to that game,
Speaker 4: You go back to that final lineout when Goog steals
Speaker 4: the ball and it was an incredible play. If you
Speaker 4: don't get that line out, they drive it forward, score
Speaker 4: the try. Wilkinson kicks the goal and it's thirty twenty
Speaker 4: nine and game over. So incredible moment to be a
Speaker 4: part of, and we'll always be remembered fondly.
Speaker 1: Owen Finnigan sat in that same spot a month back
Speaker 1: and said that he treasured that series.
Speaker 5: Win over his World Cup victory. Yeah, where does it
Speaker 5: ran for you?
Speaker 4: For a series of going back to back to back, like,
Speaker 4: it's pretty special. I go back to nine nine, let
Speaker 4: us loan when we won three and that was that
Speaker 4: hadn't been done for so many years. That one there
Speaker 4: was pretty special. World Cups obviously the pinnacle of but
Speaker 4: we didn't play in New Zealand in that World Cup.
Speaker 4: They got punted by France in that semi final. So
Speaker 4: but we beat them earlier in the year. We beat
Speaker 4: them quite convincingly in Stateum Australia. So did that sort
Speaker 4: of tick the box?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Did I mean we're World Cup champions? We can say
Speaker 4: we are, But there's something about a line series as well.
Speaker 2: And as like Owen said, it's pretty special to have
Speaker 2: that on your resume.
Speaker 3: One on both.
Speaker 2: It was a good time. We had every trophy, right,
Speaker 2: we had every trophy. Let us load to donations through everything.
Speaker 3: And there's lessons from two thousand and one for this
Speaker 3: current Wallaby creue. You can lose the first test and
Speaker 3: you can win the series. You don't know what you
Speaker 3: don't know? You wait twelve years and you hear how
Speaker 3: big a line series is. It seems that everyone, whether
Speaker 3: it's eighty nine, whether it's two thousand and one, whether
Speaker 3: it's the All Blacks in two thousand and five in
Speaker 3: their first game early on, you don't realize how big
Speaker 3: it is until you're out there and that noise hits
Speaker 3: you in the face. The same end, you're not going
Speaker 3: to finish off the series and the same team you
Speaker 3: started with you you've got to go deep into your squad.
Speaker 1: And it all starts in terms of the footy this
Speaker 1: Saturday at opt the Stadium.
Speaker 5: But don't forget all week long.
Speaker 1: We've got you covered right here on your home of
Speaker 1: rugby stands Sport tomorrow our first ever hit of Lion Central.
Speaker 5: And one man, one young man who'll.
Speaker 1: Have his eyes firmly fixed on it is young Joey
Speaker 1: who is I've just found out stand Sport's number one viewer.
Speaker 2: Number one viewer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, has recently submitted his school project, which was just
Speaker 1: all rugby. He loves Mark Eller, he loves John and Loomu.
Speaker 1: He loves David Campe.
Speaker 5: Have you got good?
Speaker 2: How good is it?
Speaker 3: The great the game boy?
Speaker 2: He started?
Speaker 4: Well, how good is it when you get our younger crew,
Speaker 4: younger generation just owning the game and it is there,
Speaker 4: be on and end all, and they take it to school,
Speaker 4: the school project.
Speaker 2: I hope you've got an A plus for that as well.
Speaker 5: I'm looking at it now. It's magnificent production for years.
Speaker 3: Surely I read the short stories, Joe, make great work
Speaker 3: and sorry loves Noel Lascio there and yeah, I love
Speaker 3: the amount of information you collected and put down. It
Speaker 3: was good to see. Maybe we'd have to get you
Speaker 3: on the desk when you graduate from school.
Speaker 2: It's going to be Jonah too.
Speaker 1: Loves Jonah, so do we fellas well done on the show, Joe,
Speaker 1: well done on your continued support between two posts, but
Speaker 1: don't forget tomorrow.
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