WEBVTT - The Lions are Here! 0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:06.480 Hallo team and welcome in for what is a massive 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:10.160 episode that between two posts, the British and Irish lives 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:13.600 have landed in Australia. 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:16.239 Here they are here, come. 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:18.680 On and to talk about what's to come for the 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:21.319 next six weeks. What happened on the week in the 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:27.440 Subbrubby Pacific GF Morgan Turnui, Matt Bergman, Welcome. How good 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:31.040 it's like Christmas in late June? The twelve year wait 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:31.680 is over? 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:34.199 If Christmas goes for a month? Can't wait? Did we 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:37.159 turn a couple away at Customs and Border Control? Surely 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:39.639 they are surely we checked their papers. 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:43.240 Do you remember I'm going to throw it back to 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:45.839 remember when Eddie Jones came with England and they searched 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:48.400 his bags for an hour beforehand before he came out. 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:49.640 I hope they can him just a little bit of 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:53.000 niggle on the way through as well. Massive squad coming 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:55.720 down game over the weekend. We'll have a look at 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:57.880 it a bit later. But so excited. 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:02.800 We've been talking about this for years from a spectators 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:06.880 level and the anticipation of the amount of people that 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:07.600 are going to come down. 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:09.080 I'm so pumped for this. 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:11.440 That's the thing to it even now. You'll see they 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:13.840 are going to be mobbed by people everywhere they go. 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:17.000 They'll be kids outside their hotel. They'll be sixty five 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:20.440 year old you know, Welsh grandfathers who are acting like 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.039 kids as well. Just start struck by the British and 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:26.360 Irish lines being on home soil here in Australia for us. 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.199 And you know, I think anyone who's got some Irish 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:31.920 heritage or English heritage, that that accent gets a little 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:35.280 bit stronger the next month. It's an exciting times. 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:38.040 Generaldy is it's a mini World Cup in terms of 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:39.800 the energy and atmosphere that we're going to have over 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:40.640 the next period of time. 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:42.600 Like that's what we're talking here. It's going to be 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:45.560 that up for the next six weeks. It's insane. 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:49.960 An old school tour, like just game after game after 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:52.280 game after game leading to three test matches. And that's 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:53.680 how that's how we used to play it back in 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:53.960 the day. 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:54.680 Did you do the old. 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:56.919 School tour a few Oh, you have the midweek a game. 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:58.880 The midwik a game, and then you have to back up. 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:00.600 If you're playing on the weekend, your. 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:02.240 Bench backs up on the test match on the week. 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:04.120 The good thing is you couldn't get flogged too much 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:05.760 by the coaches because we're playing all the time that 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:06.480 we did. 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:08.040 Greg Smith as a coach, Yes. 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:09.919 It's going to be huge. What are we thinking for 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:10.440 game one? 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:11.720 I mean we're going to go in a bit more 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:15.040 detail a bit later around how many lines fans will 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:17.359 be on deck at Optus on Saturday night. 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:19.919 Big turnout, We'll huge because. 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:23.519 There's already lots of expats in Perth. Big expat spot 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.360 it is in Perth, and so that's going to be 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:29.720 the big thing too, is just being aware how much 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:32.120 support the lines receive. So there's a lot of responsibility 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:34.560 on us and all Australians to get on board quickly 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:37.760 because otherwise the two thousand and one lesson of Test one, 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:41.079 where where Australia feels like you're away from home, will 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:42.600 be another lesson that leeds to we learned. 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:45.639 And it's that red jersey, isn't it. 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.640 There's that iconic red jersey that people chasing, people support 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:50.639 and you're right if you've got if you've got a 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:53.880 little bit of heritage there, the jersey will come out 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:57.560 and people will support and it won't be the band 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:00.640 playing at four thirty in the morning, just be cheering 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:01.680 away like when we used to have. 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:05.679 It on overseas tours. It'll just be. It'll be applause 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:06.960 and hang outside you talk. 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:07.240 World. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.840 Can't remember we're in Leon for that Wallaby's Whales game. Yes, 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.320 and that was there was no sleep night before the game. 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:14.600 It was well singing all the way through the night 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.920 in Santraville in Leon. It's going to be like that 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:19.800 all over Australia. And we're going to have a look 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:21.360 at the course of that Argentina lines game. In a 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:23.720 moment you mentioned the Red Jerseys. Have a look at 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:27.679 all of the jerseys in the crowd. They just want 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:29.120 to be in the colors of their team. 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:32.919 No sleep till Home Bush should be the patch cry 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:34.640 for the next six weeks. 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:37.400 No sleep still Home Bush Men. 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:40.400 We're going to talk about their first up loss against 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:42.320 Argentina a little later in the show. 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:44.160 We're going to start with a Super Rugby Final. 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:46.640 Thank you to the Chiefs and Chris Adders for putting 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:49.480 together another thrilling Super Rugby. 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:49.880 Final as well. 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:53.800 Boys tied at the end, just the one score separating 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:58.840 for two sides Morgues, but it's the Red and Black. 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.200 To get it done again against them. Well are we 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:02.440 thinking except. 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:07.160 For Atka except yeah, yeah, I read a broken clock 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.360 is right twice a day. 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:11.120 I read something. 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:14.360 I read something saying if in doubt, you know, picked 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:15.040 the Crusaders. 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:20.200 They were. They did their job, They worked the tactics 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:22.239 of the Chiefs out. 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:26.359 They snuck over for that Cody Taylor try and on 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:28.159 the left hand side was just a bit of sort 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:31.400 of fortune down the side there Reversrahana kicked his goal, 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:34.320 kicked that conversion, which is really important. From that, From that, 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:37.840 Cody Trailer try control the game pretty well, but they 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:38.560 I think. 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.039 The Chiefs handed it to them. 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:43.560 At the same time, they were Yeah, that's exactly right. 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:45.560 There were some moments in this game where they just 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.760 they lost the understanding of how to play and how 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:52.200 to create territory and possession as well. 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:55.560 Yeah, it was interesting. You've exactly hit the nail on 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:57.480 the head there, Burkie, that the Crusaders were able to 0:04:57.520 --> 0:04:59.559 make the Chiefs play the game they wanted to play. 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.360 Chiefs need speed in the game, And if you sat 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:04.960 through and watch that with us on the weekend, you 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:08.040 just saw that the Chiefs really struggled to impose themselves 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.040 on the match and impose their style of play on 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.560 the match. The amount of pressure put on Damian McKenzie 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:16.159 was immense and that worked well for the Crusaders. I 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:18.360 think five or six scrum penalties to the Crusaders and 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:20.360 they won the aerial battle and that's how they won 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:24.640 the title. Nothing is actually almost the opposite of what 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:27.120 we saw in Super Rugby this year with the amount 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.719 of tries and expensive play. The last couple of weeks 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.720 of Super Rugby was sudden death rugby, maybe a lesson 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:36.200 for the Test rugby to come. Crusaders played finals footy 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:38.000 once again better than anyone else. 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.159 How important is it also to kick your goals like 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:43.200 you know, I know that's tough, but you've got to 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:44.880 be able to knock them over like you know, and 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:46.400 you hadn't had to kick for a while. 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:47.919 But you've got to convert, you've got to. 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:49.720 Put your threes on, you've got to put your five 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:51.880 to sevens and you know, when it comes down to it, 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:53.640 and you're right, I reckon this will be a big 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:55.599 part of it in this Test series that's coming up 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:56.000 as well. 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:01.120 They had such a good op tunity early in that 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:05.120 second half, they charged Tubo VI charges down hope them, 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:06.080 they scoop it up. 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:07.880 They not five from the line, You go, how are 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:09.000 they not going to score here? 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:12.960 And somehow the Crusaders scrambled turn them away, I think 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.440 even when a penalty not long after that, and that 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:19.400 was basically it. So what did the Crusaders do well 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:23.000 across the back end of that game to snuff out 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:25.000 any hope of the Chiefs winning that title? 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:28.080 For me, it was the double box kick near the 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.720 end of the game when they went territory territory they 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:33.920 got it. I think it was Mackenzie took the ball 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:36.400 in on the on the first catch. He then there 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:40.360 was a box kick again, and it was just creating territory, 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:41.919 like you just you just know that you have to 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:43.919 be down that end of the field, not down that 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:45.880 in the field because there's a chance to kick a goal. 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.359 So it was just I think they played a bit smarter, 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.320 if that's if that's the simple way of looking at it. 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:52.640 They got around the park a. 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:54.680 Little bit better, there were some good kicking options that 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:56.239 they did with Rayhannah. 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:58.000 And they just played a little bit better. 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:01.240 Even even Jordan at the back was able to just 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:04.560 sort of punch a couple sliding deck in a wet ground, 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:06.200 just make it difficult ball hit. 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:07.320 The ground a fair but at the time just puts 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:08.120 pressure on fullbacks. 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.320 How big is Will Jordan and why is he so good? 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:15.720 I think there's a couple of He's quick, buck, he's fast, right, 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:19.320 and he's also able to maintain that speed while changing direction, 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:23.160 swerves and steps and maintains power and speed through contact. 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:25.000 So you've got to get all of him when you're tackling. 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.040 He doesn't look physically imposing on some of the other 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:30.080 big back three players we have, but the amount of 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.480 force he's able to put through contact because he's such 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:35.080 a balance runner and he does the basics right, and 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:38.280 he does the basics right time and time again. His 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:41.800 kick receipt and organization of back three, coupled with his 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.680 attacking kick chase and aerial battle, I think that was 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:46.520 a huge part of the reason they win this game. 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:49.400 That's a turnover. If the Chiefs get it middle of 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:51.440 the park, they can try and get some of that 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:54.400 speed into the game that we talked about playoff unstructured play, 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.800 which they want to, but he took that away from them, 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:58.800 and there's a little bit of a cause effect from 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:01.920 what Burkey is saying. McKenzie misses a goal to get 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:04.160 the Chiefs in front, it's a different game. If the 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.760 Crusaders are chasing the game, they're not able to do 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.440 what they did there. So the Crusaders are able to 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:11.720 play like front runners, and the Chiefs the onus was 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.080 on them. Okay, we'll kick the ball to you. Chiefs, 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:15.080 what are you going to do? You're going to run 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:16.680 it back eighty or you're going to give the ball 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:18.320 back to Will Jordan to make you play again. 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:20.840 There's that proactive in reactive kicking, isn't there? And I 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:23.840 think the Chiefs were reacting to the situation having to 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:25.120 sort of put pressure on themselves to. 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:26.239 Be able to get out of territory. 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:30.160 Crusaders were able just to ping the corners and it 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:31.680 was a game of chess out there, and they were 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:32.480 playing it much better. 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:35.160 James I kind of comes on and it's checkmate in 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.040 favor of the Crusaders at the back end. What about 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:41.480 him after all those many years of super Robi booting eight. 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:44.360 I'm pretty sure it was ahead of his test taboo 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:50.199 in Padaua in Italy with quite alongside. I think we're 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:51.880 going back to our eight. I mean, what a journey. 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:54.000 It's speaking for him, it's twenty twenty five, now, what. 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:57.720 A journey, and sneaking left hand side with about a 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.520 minute and a half to play, he got his hand 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:02.840 on the ball and sort of you know, contributed a 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.600 bit in that final. But I think his contribution throughout 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:07.760 the year has been great. You know, he spoke about 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:11.720 his role has been the experienced player when we spoke 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:13.599 him the other week about sort of you know, the 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:17.040 brains trust of being able to sort of you know, 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:20.599 coordinate chat going back and forth and really throwing it 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:23.720 up and being abracive. I suppose you could say, as 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:25.959 you mentioned, but he's just got some he's just got 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:28.240 some calmness about him. He's got some maturity about him. 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:30.079 I think that's that's one of the one of the 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:32.920 great things that obviously the Crusader saw in. 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:34.480 Him in that chat with him. 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:36.520 Did it come up what happened in terms where he 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:38.640 was going to live in christ Church when he lobbed there. 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.400 Did that come up? I'm sure we mind me sharing 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:43.400 the story. So we had him as part of our 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:45.760 coverage last year throughout the Spring tour, come in what 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:47.080 game it was? He was in here with us, but 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:49.440 it was awesome having Jock on deck. And he was 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:52.480 just going through that process and moving over to christ 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:54.640 Church and had found a place that he and his 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:58.240 partner wanted us stay in. And they had the manager 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:01.640 who was helping him and facility hating it. And he said, 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:04.520 we found a place and they said, oh, yeah, okay, 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:07.600 but we've got some other spots. And he said that okay, 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:10.280 but we kind of really want this spot, and sort 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:13.280 of goes back and forth a couple of times, and 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.880 and then eventually the Crusaders kind of gently say. 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:18.840 We don't stay in that spot. That's not what we're about. 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:20.280 That's not what we're about. 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:24.120 We're all in these pockets of suburbs around christ Church 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:28.120 so that we have that sense of family togetherness. Your 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:31.200 partner will be able to hang out with Rivers's girlfriend 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.000 as an example, you know, just an example, Sev's family 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:36.640 down the road there, and so they're they're pocketed and 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:39.319 they're tight knit in that way shape and form off 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:42.080 field as well, which I found fascinating. He goes, oh, okay, sweet, 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.079 of course, I'll go where you want me to so 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:46.040 he's made it work over there really nicely. 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:49.240 Maybe that's a part of I look at newsath last 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:52.040 you're a ram mckway when Northern Beach as a way, 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:55.040 you've got Cronulla, everyone's sort of probably too far apart. 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.520 So you could see why that that cohesion is a 0:10:57.559 --> 0:10:58.880 part of it as well. 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:00.680 And we said with the Brumbisi and Hamburg as well, 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:04.760 that sort of stuff just geographically to get a lot. Yeah, 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:07.760 but the brave decision from James Oconna could have looked 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:10.520 overseas again, gone and tried to earn some money at 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:13.200 the back end. But I was a guy who still 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.160 wanted to improve, still wanted to learn. He would have 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:17.800 learned so much this season, as we discussed with him 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:19.320 last week. But he into the final and then ends 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:22.120 up being a champion. He was their closer. He was 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:24.760 coming at the end, manage the team around the park, 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:27.160 her crew points when needed. He did it really well. 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.679 He was a crucial part of their title win from 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:30.120 the season. 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:34.120 What about Rob Penny. Rob Penny just be smiling into it. 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:37.480 They were ninth last year, they finished ninth and now 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:39.640 a bit of cattle back and away we go. Mertz 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:43.240 was quick to remind us all believe Metz was very quick. 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:45.480 He was very chirky on what's happening. 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:49.240 The Crusader's account blessed him as well. When they saw 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:50.719 that we posted. 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:53.360 Chief Chief Chief Chief Chief Chief and at. 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:57.880 COO's gone Crusaders. The Crusaders wrote up, Michael is our 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:02.600 favorite presenter anyway. I was like, it's good, good on 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:05.280 you guys. So the Chiefs suffer a third straight Grand 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:06.000 Final loss. 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:12.200 What for them now with CLATMMT and moving on coach 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:13.959 leaving might be tricky. 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:16.280 They'll still be there and thereabouts. They're the same. They 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:21.559 look at their list, what's the lessons they learned from 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:24.280 this season? Really, they probably paid the price for not 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.760 hosting the final that's the big one, that Week one 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:29.760 finals against the Blues. I think they will rue that, 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:33.600 But in terms of their play and their game, it's 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:36.440 it's probably what's our plan be going to be in 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:40.080 a match like that. You know, the physical nature of 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:42.080 that game is very similar to the loss of the Blues, 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:44.800 which was a fortnight before. So there's two teams that 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.920 were able to stifle them, were able to beat them 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:51.199 when it counted, So there's you know, they'll come top 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.959 two or three next year they'll be thereabouts. They've got 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:57.360 the cattle, of course, can they learn the lesson of scrum, 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:01.080 breakdown and territory how that final was won? 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:03.560 A new coach come in then more God ask you 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.360 this is your domain? Does he come in and change 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:09.320 up everything? Or is it a Chiefs wave of playing 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:10.880 because the coach wanted to get their fingerprints. 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.160 All right, you're not coming in and taking over them. 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.400 That won the spoon, so you don't need to change everything. 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:17.560 I think it's a great team to come into because 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:18.959 it would have been tough to come in up of 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.000 just winning the camp. So if you're the new coach, 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:22.800 you come in, you go okay, this is what we 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:24.160 need to do to take the next that We are 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:27.600 not rebuilding a pyramid here, yep, we are just putting 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:28.560 the capstone on top. 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.600 Next up, fellas for a lot of those men that 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:34.160 were on display on the weekend will be the all 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:38.400 backs up against France. Five debutantes in Scott Robinson squad. 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.400 I'll quickly give those too, Oline Norris, Brodie mcalsro out 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:43.440 of the Chiefs, Fabian Hole and the big boy from 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:47.160 the hiwnas our man, Timothy taba taba. Now I get 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:51.320 a spot and finally do per see carey fear. 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.520 Our favorite Hurry Kane gets a shot as well. 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:58.760 So they've got France coming up through June. 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:00.640 You know what we've got through the end of June. 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:04.600 I'm talking this weekend and July and the rest that'll 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:07.280 be the British and Irish lines who went down on 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:11.720 the weekend to Argentina. Now, the last time these two 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:15.760 sides met was ahead of the two thousand and five 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:20.000 tour of New Zealand where it was a twenty five 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:20.600 all draw. 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:22.840 I'm pretty sure it took some Wilkins and magic late 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:23.640 to draw it. 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:26.840 However, going to this game, it's in Dublin, Argentina are 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:28.160 missing nine of their best. 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:30.760 You're thinking Puma is going to get pounded here. 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:34.640 The algorithm had them is eighteen point underdogs and then 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:38.640 explain to the good people at home what happens fellas. 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:41.280 More you use some of that well when you talk 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:44.240 about the four the four countries coming together and you've 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:47.120 got to find that cohesion, and that's what it was. 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:48.280 It was just clunky on the weekend. 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:51.040 You know, there was a there was miss reads, there 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.640 was holes down the middle when they were running. You know, 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:56.480 you talk about effort areas at the same time, it 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.320 was just sort of you know, wrong shape, wrong time, 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:02.240 wrong position, wrong time, wrong place, wrong time, and well, 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.680 don't take anything away from Argentina, eve though I thought 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:07.920 they played outstanding rugby, but it was a case of 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:12.920 I think that clunkiness was basically that the ability to 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:16.080 play in a game at high tempo for the first 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:18.600 for the first time, and they got shown up there. 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.320 I mean this one, I wrack around the corner, the 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.200 forwards didn't roll around the corner too much. There's a 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:26.800 poor read from the from the wing of their freemen, 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.520 and they're just some good feet to finish with. Vader 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:33.040 Mrva gets turned inside out there by the winger and 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.800 try time, so all of a sudden, yeah, there's pressure 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:36.400 out there as well. 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:37.680 I mean to look at that crowd as well. 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:39.920 The finish was their pick. 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:43.240 So those couple of tries completely sum up almost what 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.880 you'd expect from this year. You maybe thought the lines 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.960 might have enough firepower, maybe up front the score some 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.680 more tries, couple of breakout tries from individual bruins, but 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:53.360 this was always going to be what that perform is 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:56.680 going to look like a couple of really poor defensive 0:15:56.720 --> 0:16:00.200 decisions which are completely understandable and will not be there 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.800 by the time they play the Wallabies. That's the big one. 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.480 They'll be gone. That won't be there. That Freeman bites 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:07.800 on No. One, Smith's late and van der Merber was 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:09.840 over there. So if they don't get cooked there, they 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:12.400 cooked the other side as well. They're just there's four 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.240 good venda Merber has. How many times is he defended 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:16.520 with Marcus Smith in the backfield? 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:17.200 Rarely? 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:19.520 Right, they're going to have every field session they have, 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:21.520 they're going to be better, more understanding. I would have 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:24.000 thought six to nine changes to the Test team when 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:26.200 it comes in a different nine and ten starting for 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:30.440 absolute certainty. Right, So this is one, it's one of 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:33.560 let's start with. It's one of the great victories in 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.000 the history of Argentinian rugby, right up there with their 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:38.680 World Cup semifinals, their wins over New Zealand and New 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.880 Zealand being the British and Irish Lions. PHELI play contempomi, 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:45.680 your team, your staff, congratulations, that's pretty cool, right, But 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:48.200 if you're the Lions, do you there's some positivity in 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:52.080 the content, lots to refine around defense. Their line out 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:55.160 needs a lot of work, lots and bits and pieces 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:58.080 around the way they played. But they had some adventurous 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:01.080 stuff they did in attack with which once they get 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:03.880 more time together, we'll be poping now, Burkie. The big 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:07.360 one is we saw Gatland's lines go to South Africa 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:10.600 and play zero rugby. Right, just try and be in 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.720 that fight. Nearly won the series. There was a tight series, 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:16.440 right could have gone either way. This line's team on 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:19.080 the weekend played more rugby than any Lions team since 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.480 about two thousand and one. Are they going to stick 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:23.480 with that? Should they stick with that? And if they do, 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:25.800 does it make them more vulnerable or should they go 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:29.480 scrum territory more points. 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:32.320 Stay a UK focused top. You see Marcus Smith at 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:34.960