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Speaker 2: Good morning, Welcome to Weekends with Luke Grant. Great to
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Speaker 2: Brisbane and via the two gb app GADATA listeners all
Speaker 2: around Australia. On Sunday, June fourteenth, fifty years ago, On
Speaker 2: this day, fifty years ago, our men's Australian cricket team
Speaker 2: achieved their highest Test innings total ever eight for seven
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty eight, eight for seven fifty eight. We're
Speaker 2: playing the West Indies in the Fifth Test in the
Speaker 2: Windys Our team heads there for the First Test which
Speaker 2: begins on June twenty sixth in Barbados. I don't imagine
Speaker 2: an eight for seven fifty eight is around the corner
Speaker 2: because disappointingly, I have to report that Australia was hammered
Speaker 2: by five wickets by South Africa in the World Test
Speaker 2: Championship at Lord's Overnight. Bowling is not our problem. Batting is.
Speaker 2: So I expect we'll see some new names ahead of
Speaker 2: the ashes later this year here at home. But I
Speaker 2: have to say well done South Africa. I want us
Speaker 2: to win everything. Probably you do as well, but the
Speaker 2: glorious uncertainty of sport rules again we were favorite. It
Speaker 2: should be noted it's still June fourteenth in the US.
Speaker 2: Today Donald Trump celebrates his seventy ninth birthday. The President
Speaker 2: prepared to make a show of American military mite with
Speaker 2: a parade of tanks and missiles and aircraft through the
Speaker 2: heart of the nation's capital. The celebration of the two
Speaker 2: hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the United States Army has
Speaker 2: already transformed into a test of wills and competing imagery,
Speaker 2: with demonstrators around the US to crying the Trumpster's expansion
Speaker 2: of executive power. As we go to where Central Washington
Speaker 2: is effectively locked down, divided by a wall of tall,
Speaker 2: black crowd control fences. They're designed to assure that the parade,
Speaker 2: the first of its kind since American troops returned from
Speaker 2: the Golf War back in ninety one, is an uninterrupted
Speaker 2: demonstration of history and American power. Spectators have come and
Speaker 2: gone all days. Thunderstorms are in the forecast, but Trump
Speaker 2: has declared the parade would go on rain or shine.
Speaker 2: Watching it a little early in the morning, and the commentary.
Speaker 2: The accompanying commentary is almost like a game of footy,
Speaker 2: with this pumped up commentator speaking so glowingly of every
Speaker 2: it seemed, every tank, every troop, everything amazing. Of course,
Speaker 2: no celebration of history takes place in a political vacuum.
Speaker 2: We know that protest is in large cities and small
Speaker 2: towns from Seattle to Key West, demonstrated against how Trump
Speaker 2: is making use of the modern force. His decisions over
Speaker 2: the past week to federalize the National Guard and call
Speaker 2: the Marines into the streets of la in support of
Speaker 2: these immigration roundups have rekindled a debate about whether he's
Speaker 2: abusing the powers of the commander in chief. That's happening
Speaker 2: right now, as it turns out. Our National political editor,
Speaker 2: Michael Packy, is in Seattle ahead of the G seven
Speaker 2: later this week, where the Prime Minister will be in attendance.
Speaker 2: Now he's been speaking today the PM and already he's
Speaker 2: confirmed that he'll meet with Donald Trump Wednesday morning our time.
Speaker 2: He's a PM. We do have a meeting scheduled.
Speaker 4: Obviously, there are issues that the US President is dealing
Speaker 4: with at the moment, but I expect that we will
Speaker 4: be able to have a constructive engagement as well, and
Speaker 4: I look forward to building on the very constructive phone
Speaker 4: conversations that we've had on the three occasions that we've
Speaker 4: had the opportunity to talk.
Speaker 2: As I said, Michael Pecki's in Seattle, and I think
Speaker 2: Michael Free's time, MAYE have you seeing the protests where
Speaker 2: you are?
Speaker 5: Yeah, look, look, I have seen the protests though where
Speaker 5: I am, and some of them are still going in
Speaker 5: various parts of the city. And it's just I suppose
Speaker 5: you just you're amazed by the amount of people that
Speaker 5: have turned out. And I know that in all parts
Speaker 5: of the United States, you've got these protests that are
Speaker 5: taking place, but there are thousands upon thousands upon thousands
Speaker 5: of people that have aligned these various streets of Seattle
Speaker 5: are just marching down and they've been doing that.
Speaker 6: I suppose it's probably.
Speaker 5: Would have been about ten o'clock this morning local time,
Speaker 5: been in another area of Seattle, we've been in a
Speaker 5: place called the Amazon Steers where essentially the Prime Minister
Speaker 5: was with the boss of Amazon, where they've made an
Speaker 5: announcement about Amazon spending another seven billion dollars in Australia
Speaker 5: to build data centers. So it's been this juxta decision
Speaker 5: where you've got protests happening at one end of the city.
Speaker 5: Then we've been at the other end of the city
Speaker 5: where this announcement has been made, and also where the
Speaker 5: Prime Minister took questions at a press conference and he
Speaker 5: did confirm that he will be meeting with Donald Trump
Speaker 5: early next week in Canada on the sidelines of that
Speaker 5: G seven, with trade and of course defense issues very
Speaker 5: much the issues on the agenda for those talks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what format that meeting takes.
Speaker 2: I imagine the last thing the Prime Minister wants to
Speaker 2: see is to have him sitting next to Donald Trump
Speaker 2: and cameras everywhere. We know how that's played down for
Speaker 2: many world leaders.
Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I think you're right, it will be interesting
Speaker 5: how this does take place and from what we've just
Speaker 5: seen what we're being told at the moment, and obviously
Speaker 5: we're going to be leaving for Canada tomorrow for the
Speaker 5: G seven. But what we're being told from where we're
Speaker 5: staying at the hotel and where the actual G seven
Speaker 5: is taking place, it's quite a distance so will be
Speaker 5: interesting to see where the meeting takes place. Does it
Speaker 5: take place at the location of the G seven or
Speaker 5: does it take place at one of the hotels. If
Speaker 5: it does take place at the one of the hotels,
Speaker 5: how much media will be allowed in And as you
Speaker 5: quite rightly say, when Donald Trump needs world leaders, he
Speaker 5: likes having the full media pack in there and almost
Speaker 5: going doing and throwing with that media pack as he
Speaker 5: takes their questions. There's no pretense of just having a
Speaker 5: picture opportunity. Donald Trump seems to always be prepared to
Speaker 5: take a couple of questions that are thrown at him.
Speaker 5: But it was interesting today that Anthony Ibnez he did
Speaker 5: make it clear that he while he discussed the tariff issue,
Speaker 5: and you will tell him that you know, he doesn't
Speaker 5: believe the tariffs should be imposed on Australia or any
Speaker 5: other country for that matter. When it comes to the
Speaker 5: issue of aucust he is going to say that he
Speaker 5: thinks Australia's defense spending is essentially on track, and that
Speaker 5: Australia should decide how much it spends on its military.
Speaker 5: But he's also going to add that the government is
Speaker 5: also helping America as well in Australia, that we provide
Speaker 5: bases for US submarines in Western Australia, for US warships
Speaker 5: in places like Sydney's Guarden, Ireland occasionally, and also we
Speaker 5: host US marines through training exercises. So he is going
Speaker 5: to defend Australia's defense spend while you've got the White
Speaker 5: House urging Australia to spend more money on defense.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean he's got to do his best
Speaker 2: there because he's got a budget issue here as well.
Speaker 2: But I think the fact remains and Trump will, I guess,
Speaker 2: play this card that if someone that didn't like has
Speaker 2: turned up, it's circularly key with a couple of slingshots,
Speaker 2: we'll be calling for America for some help. But anyway,
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens with that. Was there any mention
Speaker 2: from the PM of the Iran Israel conflict, and in
Speaker 2: particular the Australians who said through the media yesterday and
Speaker 2: I think again today on weekend today nova Peris made
Speaker 2: the point that it's quite frightening and they are a
Speaker 2: bit a bit mythed that they can't get out of
Speaker 2: the joint.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Look, the only thing that he said about that is
Speaker 5: that that dead all the Department of Foreign Affairs is
Speaker 5: trying to work with the people that are there to
Speaker 5: try and get them out, but that it's a difficult situation.
Speaker 5: And obviously it's a war zone and it is a
Speaker 5: difficult situation to try and get them out. But I
Speaker 5: think that all that all that is possible is being done.
Speaker 5: But I think that when it comes to some of
Speaker 5: these issues, he doesn't like and like this. I will
Speaker 5: say this is probably of any leader when they're asked
Speaker 5: about these situations, they do tend to keep their power
Speaker 5: to drive because things are obviously happening behind the scenes
Speaker 5: to try and get people out of these situations. So
Speaker 5: he didn't expand too much. But I think that work
Speaker 5: is happening to try and see what can be done
Speaker 5: to airlift some you know, as many Australians as possible
Speaker 5: out of there. But it is I suppose the issue
Speaker 5: is is that Australians who wanted to come home over
Speaker 5: a number of months have been told to get out
Speaker 5: and some have chosen to stay. Now there's obviously this
Speaker 5: situation that's arisen and now the government has to try
Speaker 5: and see what it can do to get them out.
Speaker 2: So does when does Team Albo leave Seattle and head
Speaker 2: head to the G seven. Mate? What's ahead of you
Speaker 2: guys today?
Speaker 5: So what happens is we're in Seattle for the rest
Speaker 5: of today. It's already four o'clock here in Seattle, so
Speaker 5: I know that in a little while the Prime Minister
Speaker 5: will be making a speech to a bunch of business leaders.
Speaker 5: They're mainly technology leaders where he'll be speaking and we
Speaker 5: will be talking about this announcement that's been made by
Speaker 5: Amazon today. He'll say that it shows that you've got
Speaker 5: these big American companies that are willing to invest in
Speaker 5: Australia and obviously trying to encourage other business leaders to
Speaker 5: do the same and invest in our country. So it's
Speaker 5: about four o'clock now, he's got this speech in about
Speaker 5: an hour's time, and then that's pretty much for the
Speaker 5: schedule for today. Tomorrow morning we'll leave early for the
Speaker 5: G seven in Calgary or Alberta in Canada, and we're
Speaker 5: there for the rest of the day. So we're there
Speaker 5: for the rest of Sunday, Monday and Tuesday, and it'll
Speaker 5: be Wednesday, Wednesday Australian time where this meeting with Donald
Speaker 5: Trump is meant to happen. Now, the Prime Minister says
Speaker 5: it's scheduled. Obviously anything can happen, and he obviously is
Speaker 5: cited to confirm it today after Donald Trump himself confirmed
Speaker 5: that he would be attending the G seven. Because it
Speaker 5: was some speculation that Donald Trump may not attend that
Speaker 5: G seventh summit. But given that there's a whole bunch
Speaker 5: of world leaders that are attending, and there are a
Speaker 5: lot of pressing global issues to be discussed, you'd think
Speaker 5: that Trump would want to be front and center of
Speaker 5: those sorts of discussions that will take place.
Speaker 2: Yes, you'd think so, or I made Thank you so
Speaker 2: much for your Times day. Safe over there. We'll talk
Speaker 2: to you again soon. No problems, Get on your work,
Speaker 2: Good on your Michael Michael Packy, national political editor in Seattle.
Speaker 2: Now on with the show here on Sunday the fifteenth.
Speaker 2: I might have inadvertently said fourteenth. I certainly said it's
Speaker 2: still the fourteenth in the US, because it is, but
Speaker 2: it's fifteenth. If I didn't say the right thing, I
Speaker 2: do apologize. Official weather in Sydney a party, cloudy day
Speaker 2: with a medium channel for showers in the afternoon and tonight.
Speaker 2: Tops in the city eighteen Penritheen Paramatta eighteen bon dying
Speaker 2: along the coast eighteen. It's an eighteen on in Brisbane,
Speaker 2: a sunny day tops in the city twenty two, twenty
Speaker 2: two at the airport, Ipswich twenty three, Gold Coast twenty
Speaker 2: three and on the sunny coast today twenty two degrees.
Speaker 2: Now let's get into it with the latest from the
Speaker 2: Middle East and the sky of a. Tehran was engulfed
Speaker 2: in smoke and flames this morning our time, after the
Speaker 2: city's main gas depot was struck during Israel's latest wave
Speaker 2: of attacks on Iran. The two countries launched renewed waves
Speaker 2: of attacks on each other late Saturday, as leaders of
Speaker 2: both countries vowed to intensify their assault despite international pleas
Speaker 2: for de escalation. Now, Iran's oil ministry said the gas
Speaker 2: depot the Shahran Fuel Depot, was hit and set on fire,
Speaker 2: and official with the ministry said the depots at the facility,
Speaker 2: which has eleven storage tanks were exploding one after another
Speaker 2: other and threatened to significantly damage residential neighborhoods in the
Speaker 2: area now. A resident whose high rise apartments directly across
Speaker 2: from the depot said the force of the explosions felt
Speaker 2: like an earthquake. Multiple witnesses said the fire was spreading
Speaker 2: and lighting up the mountains around Tehran. Israeli air defense
Speaker 2: systems late yesterday were intercepting Iranian ballistic missiles as explosions
Speaker 2: lit up the sky over Jerusalem. Images on Israeli television
Speaker 2: indicated that many of the missiles fired in the latest
Speaker 2: mirage from Iran were also aimed for the first time
Speaker 2: at the northern city of Haifa. The Israeli military announced
Speaker 2: on social media that its air force was attacking military
Speaker 2: targets in Iran as Iranian state news media also confirmed
Speaker 2: that Tehran had launched its own new round of missile
Speaker 2: attacks on Israel. The daz Old conflict is the most
Speaker 2: intense fighting in decades between the two heavily armed We'll
Speaker 2: keep an eye on the developments around. Australians who are there.
Speaker 2: I know someone who's caught up in this sent her
Speaker 2: a text yesterday morning just making sure she was okay,
Speaker 2: and it was kind of late last night that she
Speaker 2: came back to me with emojis to assure me that
Speaker 2: she was, but hoping that they'd get out of there
Speaker 2: very very soon. We'll see where all that ends up,
Speaker 2: and I'll keep an eye for you as we mak
Speaker 2: our way through the show today. Now, just on these
Speaker 2: assassinations in the US, a former appointee of Democratic Minnesota
Speaker 2: Governor Tim Walls is being sought in connection with the
Speaker 2: assassination of a state politician and the shooting of another.
Speaker 2: According to police vance, Luther Bolt allegedly posed as a
Speaker 2: police officer, but he shot Senator John Hoffman and his
Speaker 2: wife in their home in Champlain, Minnesota, leaving them so
Speaker 2: seriously injured. According to The New York Post, He then
Speaker 2: allegedly moved to former Democratic House Speaker Melissa Hortman's house,
Speaker 2: where he's believed to have killed her and her husband.
Speaker 2: The suspected assailant was still at large, officials said, with
Speaker 2: a massive manhunt underway, extraordinary. Now on the show today,
Speaker 2: a deep dive into the state of Australia's defense and
Speaker 2: the future of Orcas I look forward to the future
Speaker 2: of the conflicts around the world with the founder and
Speaker 2: Director of Strategic Analysis Australia, Michael Shubridge. I'll speak to
Speaker 2: Michael shortly. Today is World Elder Abuse Day and as
Speaker 2: a Makley yesterday, and this is not controversial, we need
Speaker 2: to be doing so much more to protect the elderly
Speaker 2: in our community. The Council of the Aging Australia shares
Speaker 2: our views and wants the Federal government to get a
Speaker 2: bit more active on this. These numbers I told you
Speaker 2: about yesterday are just so upsetting. One in sea older
Speaker 2: Australians experience elder abuse, one in six. Disturbingly, over sixty
Speaker 2: percent don't seek help because they're scared of potential retaliation
Speaker 2: or they're scared of not being believed. I'll speak with
Speaker 2: the Acting Chief Executive of Code of the Council of
Speaker 2: the Aging, Corey Erlam, on that issue on the show
Speaker 2: Today on Sundays with Spotlight. An ordinary assi who's achieved
Speaker 2: extraordinary things, and today's guest fittingly describes himself as quote
Speaker 2: an ordinary man who's done some good things unquote, but
Speaker 2: a quick look at the achievements of this book will
Speaker 2: show you his story is far from ordinary. His name
Speaker 2: is Nick Caldas. Pretty much done at all in the
Speaker 2: world of policing and counter terrorism. Nick was a twenty
Speaker 2: one year old immigrant lad from Egypt when he joined
Speaker 2: the New South Wales Police Force. Today he's Assistant Commander
Speaker 2: in Chief of the Abu Dhabi Police Force and on
Speaker 2: the way he's been a Royal Commissioner, a homicide detective
Speaker 2: and let a un force. Nick Caldas AO, don't miss
Speaker 2: our chat in the next hour. The IVF industry has
Speaker 2: been put under the microscope after Monash IVF became embroiled
Speaker 2: in its second embryo bungle now. Earlier this week, Monash
Speaker 2: IVF revealed that a patient in Melbourne had their own
Speaker 2: embryo mistakenly transferred back to them rather than one belonging
Speaker 2: to their partner. This follows an incident in April where
Speaker 2: Monash implanted a patient in Brisbane with another woman's embryo
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three and gave birth to a baby
Speaker 2: who had no genetic links to her later that year.
Speaker 2: You know, words don't exist to describe what these patients
Speaker 2: must have felt. It left many of us thinking, how
Speaker 2: does this happen? Do these patterns and incidents represent a
Speaker 2: four in the process of monash all over the joint.
Speaker 2: Was it just bad luck? I don't know. I want
Speaker 2: to find out. Does the industry need industry wide changes
Speaker 2: to stop it from happening again? Well, I think you'd
Speaker 2: have to say yes. I'll talk to a bioethicist from
Speaker 2: Swinburne University, doctor Ev Kendall, and get her views. Stephen
Speaker 2: Finnick will join me to talk technology in our second hour.
Speaker 2: He'll walk us through the latest Apple news. They've unveiled
Speaker 2: a new design for their software platforms and new features
Speaker 2: for iPhone and Apple Watch. Stephen with all the details soon.
Speaker 2: Jim Haynes in our last hour, here to reminisce about
Speaker 2: the old movies of Australia. Now we started to do
Speaker 2: this last week. If you've been an extra, if your
Speaker 2: home's been caught up in a famous scene, or you
Speaker 2: know someone that has, we want to hear from you.
Speaker 2: It's so much fun. We'll do that after midday today again,
Speaker 2: plenty of time to talk to you. We'll keep across
Speaker 2: all the breaking news in our quiz, all that ahead
Speaker 2: on the show today. So that's what we've got coming
Speaker 2: up over the next three and a half fish hours.
Speaker 2: It's ten degrees in Sydney right now it feels like six.
Speaker 2: They reckon twelve in Brisbane it feels like eleven. Can
Speaker 2: you tell the difference? I don't think so. This is
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Speaker 2: brilliant Catherine Hines now on Weekends the Sunday Sweep.
Speaker 1: Looking at the stories.
Speaker 2: Of the week. Yeah wow, what a week on planet
Speaker 2: Earth Day. Iran and Israel appear to be on the
Speaker 2: brink of a really large scale conflict, if that isn't
Speaker 2: already playing out. The Prime Minister set to meet with
Speaker 2: Donald Trump at the G seven in Canada this week.
Speaker 2: I imagine that Donald Trump will say, hey, we're happy
Speaker 2: to help, but any chance you could do your bit
Speaker 2: in terms of defense and of course, the Aucus, the
Speaker 2: alliance that underpins the future of our national security is
Speaker 2: now under review. What does that mean? So who better
Speaker 2: to help us understand all of this than the founder
Speaker 2: and Director of Strategic Analysis Australia, Michael shue Bridge, who
Speaker 2: joins me on the line. Morning Michael, Morning, Luke, very well,
Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time. Always enjoy our
Speaker 2: chats and I appreciate your expertise in all of these areas.
Speaker 2: I guess we start with Israel and Iran, a new
Speaker 2: wave of attacks or seen the talks about nuclear canceled
Speaker 2: quite obviously. First off, was Israel justified? Were they write
Speaker 2: in starting something? They're living in the fear of Iran
Speaker 2: doing something out of control with nuclear they be on
Speaker 2: edge all the time, obviously if they're not on edge
Speaker 2: about a whole range of other things.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, the Iranian nuclear program is decades old, so
Speaker 8: Israel has always wanted it to be ended, and the
Speaker 8: negotiations that the Americans were having whether RAM were clearly
Speaker 8: not going to do that.
Speaker 9: And this same week.
Speaker 8: That Israel began these attacks, the International Atomic Energy Agency
Speaker 8: formally declared Arama's in breach of all its reporting obligations
Speaker 8: and had enough nuclear material to make nine weapons. So
Speaker 8: I think the Israeli calculation was there was not going
Speaker 8: to be a better time to try and stop Iran,
Speaker 8: and that's why they've started. But it's still an incredibly
Speaker 8: hard problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now the US, as I understand it, providing some
Speaker 2: assistance to Israel, protecting them from the missiles and the like,
Speaker 2: And we've seen Israel get some success, certainly around the
Speaker 2: nuclear plant, and I think today we're being told that
Speaker 2: they've had a crack at some of their other fossil
Speaker 2: fuel stores. And I guess this goes on for a
Speaker 2: matter of days or weeks or months. I guess I'm
Speaker 2: trying to ask you, Michael, if you put the crystal
Speaker 2: ball into this, what you end up with, is there
Speaker 2: a time where Israel can claim victory? Is a regime
Speaker 2: change in a run, how does its play out? What's
Speaker 2: the endgame for both countries?
Speaker 8: Well, that is pretty hard to see. I would say
Speaker 8: you're right that this is not a matter of a
Speaker 8: war that's going to be over in a few days.
Speaker 8: It's going to go on at least for weeks. The
Speaker 8: prospect of regime change during the middle of a war,
Speaker 8: I think is very very low in history. When countries
Speaker 8: are at war, usually people sort of rally around the flag,
Speaker 8: and I think we'll probably see some of that. Even
Speaker 8: though the Iranian regime is deeply unpopular. It's different when
Speaker 8: you're being attacked. The Americans are trying not to get
Speaker 8: dragged into this beyond helping defend Israel, but from the
Speaker 8: Iranian point of view, if you're helping defend Israel, you're
Speaker 8: part of the problem, so that the prospects of an
Speaker 8: escalation are there, bringing the Americans in more. And the
Speaker 8: bit that still doesn't make sense to me is what's
Speaker 8: the Israeli plans to deal with the buried underground nuclear
Speaker 8: facilities that Iran has Because places like fourdoh An underground
Speaker 8: site and the tarns An underground and Richmond site. You
Speaker 8: can bomb the above ground bits as much as you like,
Speaker 8: but you don't damage underground.
Speaker 2: So what countries nearby are likely to assist Iran? I
Speaker 2: guess where I'm headed now is how far will this expand?
Speaker 2: Is there an obvious I mean, apart from the US
Speaker 2: trying to help Israel defend itself, who else gets involved?
Speaker 8: Nobody? Because since the seventh of October Hamas terror attacks
Speaker 8: on Israel, Israel has dismantled the proxies, the armed proxies
Speaker 8: that Iran had built to threaten Israel for decades. Hamas
Speaker 8: and Hezbolla were its key weapons, and it had militias
Speaker 8: operating in Syria two that had Iranian missiles and rockets
Speaker 8: to specifically to attack Israel. That's all pretty much gone now.
Speaker 8: So the Iranians are by themselves and there's no way
Speaker 8: countries like Saudi Arabia or Katara or the United Arab
Speaker 8: Emirates want to pile in on a run side here,
Speaker 8: the friend that Iran does have turns out to be
Speaker 8: Vladimir Putin in Moscow, and that's because Putin has been
Speaker 8: supported by Iran with drones to fight in Ukraine.
Speaker 2: I want to get to Orcus, and I guess we
Speaker 2: start by the obvious. How serious is the review by
Speaker 2: the US into Orcus? Should we be sitting here at home,
Speaker 2: knowing how reliant we are on the US saying oh,
Speaker 2: we've got a serious problem here.
Speaker 8: It is a serious review. The fact it's meant to
Speaker 8: be only take thirty days means it's it's not a
Speaker 8: deep one. But the issues are pretty obvious and clear,
Speaker 8: and you've put your finger on one of them. Luke,
Speaker 8: it's very hard to say, Hey, we're one of your
Speaker 8: closest allies America, and we're so close on defense that
Speaker 8: we're spending two percent of GDP on defense while you're
Speaker 8: spending three and a half percent. But by the way,
Speaker 8: we would like nuclear submarines out of your own navy
Speaker 8: when you don't have enough of them and know we're
Speaker 8: still going to only be spending two point three percent
Speaker 8: in ten years. That is a pretty hard ask.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that beautifully put so at home because I
Speaker 2: want to how these plays out amongst Australian voters. If,
Speaker 2: of course, you could say, couldn't your Michael that we've
Speaker 2: I don't want to use the word bludging, but it
Speaker 2: seems like you know, we've we've we've ambled forward knowing
Speaker 2: that if things got really serious, America would come and
Speaker 2: give us assistance. But as Trump's made clear in his
Speaker 2: America First policies, if that's the right way to put it,
Speaker 2: you know, we'll give you a hand, but you've got
Speaker 2: to be have faired incing yourself. But does the average
Speaker 2: Astradion voted do you think are they persuaded by that?
Speaker 2: You know, we should be faired income, we shouldn't just
Speaker 2: rely on the US.
Speaker 8: Well, I think this is all got bound up in
Speaker 8: a whole lot of Australians dislike of Donald Trump and
Speaker 8: a whole lot of the things he's doing. And you know,
Speaker 8: you look at America with the riots going on, the
Speaker 8: big military beat protest saying no King and the kind
Speaker 8: of aggression towards America's traditional friends and partners. And you
Speaker 8: can sort of see why a bunch of Australians are saying, yeah,
Speaker 8: I love it when mister Albanezi talks tough and says
Speaker 8: he decides things and he's not going to be pushed
Speaker 8: around by this guy. But is it really a source
Speaker 8: of national pride to not do enough for our own
Speaker 8: security and say to the Americans, no, it's to spend
Speaker 8: two percent on defense and be even more dependent on you.
Speaker 8: So don't try to push me about this. To me,
Speaker 8: that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: No, that's excellent analysis. That's exactly right, because you're right
Speaker 2: to say that he got up to say, you know,
Speaker 2: we'll decide almost like John Howard talked when he talked
Speaker 2: about the boat paper, I will decide what we'll spend
Speaker 2: on defense. In other words, we'll do just a little
Speaker 2: bit here and you will come. And I mean, if
Speaker 2: you're an American looking on you be going, huh, that's
Speaker 2: not tough. That's absolutely silly. I get so much from
Speaker 2: your analysis and our conversations Michael, and I guess I'm
Speaker 2: stuck on a point that you raised before the break
Speaker 2: about Australia not doing enough from looking tough insaying that
Speaker 2: we're not doing enough. And I guess the question is
Speaker 2: how safe is how safe are we? I guess is
Speaker 2: where I want to get to here? Because people walk
Speaker 2: around thinking, you know, we'll just go and get a coffee,
Speaker 2: everything's great. We hear everything that bad happens happens. It
Speaker 2: seems over I guess many Australians think, you know, best
Speaker 2: country in the world was safe? Here are we? Is
Speaker 2: that niaive? Is that fair enough?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I think we are still the best country in the world.
Speaker 8: That's absolutely true. And we're lucky we live in a
Speaker 8: safe part of the world. But even our safe part
Speaker 8: of the world is more dangerous than I was. So
Speaker 8: if you read this government and the previous government's own documents,
Speaker 8: things like the National Defense Strategy, you will hear that
Speaker 8: China is building a massive military, building a large nuclear
Speaker 8: weapons stockpile, and it's not doing them for fun. It's
Speaker 8: already using it's a military aggressively against countries like Japan,
Speaker 8: the Philippines and Vietnam. And so the kind of you've
Speaker 8: got to burrow into those documents because you don't hear
Speaker 8: this from our political leaders. So the risks are real.
Speaker 8: And something you're reading them as well is that our
Speaker 8: geography no longer Texas as it did because of new weapons,
Speaker 8: and that's long range missiles, but it's also things like
Speaker 8: drones that can be used very creatively, as we've seen
Speaker 8: the Ukrainians and the Israelis do now. And China makes
Speaker 8: all of this stuff and supplies its military with all
Speaker 8: of it, and it does want to take Taiwan back,
Speaker 8: and it doesn't look like there's a peaceful option.
Speaker 2: No, is that something that might happen? Well? Is that
Speaker 2: a reality? Is that something we cannot dismiss? And is
Speaker 2: that far away from happening? I mean, you hear from
Speaker 2: time to time the suggestion that it's imminent. When will
Speaker 2: if it's inevitable, China try to retake back Taiwan, We'll
Speaker 2: take back Taiwan.
Speaker 8: Well, this is interesting. I think the Chinese government, the
Speaker 8: Communist Party, wants to tell the world it's inevitable. But
Speaker 8: the reason they have to keep saying that is they
Speaker 8: know that's not true. So far, they've been deterred from
Speaker 8: doing it, and they've been deterred by American and allied
Speaker 8: military power and doubts that she Jinking has about his
Speaker 8: own military, and both those things are still powerful. But
Speaker 8: the problem is America and its allies look a bit
Speaker 8: chaotic now and distracted. But the good news is China
Speaker 8: keeps purging senior people and it's military, which doesn't give
Speaker 8: them the Colgate Ring of confidence. You know, I think
Speaker 8: it's all about It's a bit like what we're saying
Speaker 8: about met Yahu and Iran. Will there be a better time?
Speaker 11: Is?
Speaker 8: I think the question in she's mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, fascinating. You talked about drones. Actually had a
Speaker 2: drone manufacturer, the boss of a company from Victoria, I think,
Speaker 2: on a few weeks ago, and they're doing great stuff.
Speaker 2: And you hear about, as you mentioned, drones in Ukraine
Speaker 2: and elsewhere, and I end up saying this, why does
Speaker 2: it seem like we're spending all that we have on
Speaker 2: submarines on the never never when we could, like other
Speaker 2: countries around the world, arm ourselves with drones. Drones are
Speaker 2: flying drones in the water and seemingly beyond on the pace.
Speaker 2: What am I missing there?
Speaker 8: Well, I think what you're missing is our government and
Speaker 8: our defense departments complete this interest in equipping our military
Speaker 8: with these things. They spend all their time talking about
Speaker 8: why the time's not right. You know, anything I do
Speaker 8: now might be obsolete. Look, you know it's not proven
Speaker 8: how they'll be used best, We've got to develop concepts.
Speaker 8: But the actual problem is it messes with their plan.
Speaker 8: The defense plan that the government has endorsed and seems
Speaker 8: perfectly happy with. Is what you talked about. It's spending
Speaker 8: hundreds of billions of dollars on triggates and submarines that
Speaker 8: do not thing to help out security for decades, and
Speaker 8: under investing in a whole bunch of stuff that Australian
Speaker 8: companies make and supply to other militaries. Right now, it
Speaker 8: is mystifying, it is. It's the only explanation I have
Speaker 8: is that the current leadership and the government and that
Speaker 8: the Defense Department don't believe their own words about the
Speaker 8: dangerous world.
Speaker 2: Whereas, Wow, Michael, thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it very much. Indeed, good on you. Good
Speaker 2: to talk with you, mate. Michael Schubridge, Founder and Director
Speaker 2: of Strategic Analysis Australia. See when you remove the politics
Speaker 2: from these discussions, and I know that's difficult to do.
Speaker 2: But when you do, when you talk about defense and
Speaker 2: you then you know, you get down deep into some
Speaker 2: of these issues. Like it is impressive, isn't it that
Speaker 2: we've got these nuclear powers and marines coming sometime from
Speaker 2: America our mate and the UK or other mate. And
Speaker 2: though they're going to cost you know, maybe half, it
Speaker 2: doesn't nds's you think, oh, well, that's got to be good.
Speaker 2: But the fact is that in the theaters of war
Speaker 2: right now around the world, drones and other things are
Speaker 2: a thing. Which is why I wanted to ask Michael,
Speaker 2: why aren't they think for us we make the damn
Speaker 2: things here? In fact, we make them here, we buy
Speaker 2: a few of them, but around the world they buy
Speaker 2: a heap of them. Well, what are we doing that's
Speaker 2: so smart? And that the point Michael makes, which I
Speaker 2: think is astonishing, is that they say the world's a
Speaker 2: dangerous place. And I mean, you look at the headlines
Speaker 2: today and of course do you think, yeah, well bloody oath, Well,
Speaker 2: if it's such a dangerous place, why aren't you arming
Speaker 2: our army Air Force? Why aren't you doing something now?
Speaker 2: Why do we have to wait a decade for a
Speaker 2: couple of subs? I'm no genius in this space. But
Speaker 2: I like to think I've got a bit of common
Speaker 2: sense and you look at what's in front of you,
Speaker 2: and I think you're entitled to go huh. It's eleven
Speaker 2: to ten, it's seven to ten, three one eight seven
Speaker 2: three is the open line number. I note. The New
Speaker 2: South Wales Nationals have voted to abandon their commitment to
Speaker 2: net zero emissions by twenty fifty, a move that will
Speaker 2: no doubt put pressure on the Libs. The News Corp
Speaker 2: publications say the motion was placed on the agenda by
Speaker 2: the Tweed State Electorate Council, with party members gathered at
Speaker 2: the state conference in COV's Harbor this weekend voting overwhelmingly
Speaker 2: in favor of dumping the commitment. One member said the
Speaker 2: motion passed with applause. Game on three one eight seven
Speaker 2: three just from Queensland, the forensic Crash Unit investigating a
Speaker 2: fatal single motorbike crash at Pierces Creek north of to Woomba.
Speaker 2: This is yesterday. As a result, twenty two year old
Speaker 2: male rider was declared to cease to the scene. Officers
Speaker 2: are investigating the circumstances of the crash and they're appealing
Speaker 2: for anyone with information to come forward Pierces Creek Road
Speaker 2: around ten to midday yesterday on the text line thank
Speaker 2: you for so many of these this morning, zero force
Speaker 2: in zero eight seven three eight seven three, Rob says Luke.
Speaker 2: It's always easier to kick the can down the road
Speaker 2: until the next election to avoid making hard decisions. Now,
Speaker 2: well that's such a good point, Rob. I mean, you
Speaker 2: want people to have a view, make a call, and
Speaker 2: then will decide in three years if it was a
Speaker 2: good call or a bad call. And you know what,
Speaker 2: as I say, and schomo ooh, don't mention Schoma scary.
Speaker 2: If you have a go, you get a go. I
Speaker 2: have a go, don't see back. Oh maybe I meet
Speaker 2: maybe I meet Donald Trump. Maybe I meet him, I
Speaker 2: mean knock his door down. Hey, Albo from Australia. A
Speaker 2: couple of questions, no dramas. And if he gives you
Speaker 2: the I don't know what Donald Trump will give you.
Speaker 2: Let's say the basle brush. Then how to go Australia.
Speaker 2: We love you. Then. Look. The problem with defense, this
Speaker 2: is from Brett and not using drones, is it's led
Speaker 2: by old warfare leaders who have not come to terms
Speaker 2: with modern warfare. The old thinking is big ships, big
Speaker 2: air force, big tanks, drones do not come into their
Speaker 2: old world plans or thinking. Thank you Brett very much. Indeed,
Speaker 2: good a Luke. Regarding the discussion you're having with Michael Schubridge,
Speaker 2: I think Israel has every right to defend itself. That's
Speaker 2: what they're doing, and they've been threatened by Iran and
Speaker 2: others for decades. Maybe some of these boffins at the
Speaker 2: UN who keep calling for Israel to de escalate might
Speaker 2: want to think about that. Good on you, seev. Hope
Speaker 2: you will, mate, Kerry, says Luke. When we have someone
Speaker 2: of the caliber and intelligence of Michael Schubridge, why do
Speaker 2: we have people like Richard Marles and elbow playing at
Speaker 2: defending our country? Very good question, Kerry. Now after the news,
Speaker 2: Stephen Fennick here to talk technology. We'll also get to
Speaker 2: our remarkablest guardian, Nick Calderson. I want to talk about
Speaker 2: world elder abuse.
Speaker 12: DA.
Speaker 2: We'll do that as well. Plenty of texts, thank you
Speaker 2: for them, zero forurseing zero eight seven three eight seven three, Luke,
Speaker 2: Donald Trump is a shining example of what happens where
Speaker 2: the can stops being kicked down the road Ross, thanks
Speaker 2: so much for getting in touch. The news is.
Speaker 1: Next across Australia. It's back to weekends with Luke Grant.
Speaker 2: Hello there, thank you for tuning in to weekends on
Speaker 2: two GBN for BC Hope Sunday is splendid where you
Speaker 2: are on this fifteenth day of June. One three one
Speaker 2: eight seven three is the open line number. Look, I
Speaker 2: didn't make mention of this, and I should have because
Speaker 2: I've been a fan of this golfer for a long time,
Speaker 2: even though he's perhaps not as dominant as he once was,
Speaker 2: if even he was ever dominant. But Adam Scott, the AUSSI,
Speaker 2: Adam Scott has shot a three under round round three.
Speaker 2: They call the third day and the moving day, don't they?
Speaker 2: I think they do. So he is three under at
Speaker 2: the US Open Golf. He's a shot off the lead
Speaker 2: which is shared by Spawn and Burns with Victor Hoveland
Speaker 2: two shots back fourth at one under. And they kept
Speaker 2: making the point that Jason Day had moved a little today.
Speaker 2: He shot what an issue today? Two over. Yeah, he's
Speaker 2: five over the card. Tough course, but Adam Scott one
Speaker 2: off the pace there running effectively third because two players
Speaker 2: are sharing the lead there go get them one, three, one, eight,
Speaker 2: seven threes and ombos I mentioned before the news today's
Speaker 2: World Elder Abuse Day, and we have to do more
Speaker 2: on this. We really do a touched on this story yesterday.
Speaker 2: The Council of Aging Australia have had a bit to
Speaker 2: say about this. These statistics are certainly disturbing. More than
Speaker 2: one in six older Australians experience what they called elder
Speaker 2: abuse and tragically, over sixty percent of them don't seek
Speaker 2: help because they're scared of the potential retaliation or not
Speaker 2: being believed. Can you imagine any other cohort coming forward
Speaker 2: and having a complaint or noting mistreatment or bullying and
Speaker 2: simply because of the cohort that you're in, you think, oh,
Speaker 2: well they're not going to believe me. I'm an older Australian.
Speaker 2: That's disgusting. Now coda. The Council of the Aging is
Speaker 2: calling on the Federal government to ensure a new national
Speaker 2: plan includes clear funded commitments. They want to see National
Speaker 2: Plan to End the Abuse and Mistreatment of Older People
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four to twenty thirty four implemented to solve
Speaker 2: the problem. Let's find out about this I'm delighted to
Speaker 2: say the acting chief executive of KOTA is Corey Earlham,
Speaker 2: who joins me on the line.
Speaker 13: Get a Corey, Yeah, Luke, thanks for having us on.
Speaker 2: Not at all, mate, nice to talk to you. It
Speaker 2: is disgusting. It's a horrible way to look at our
Speaker 2: society if we have put older Australians in the majority
Speaker 2: in a position where they believe if they call this
Speaker 2: stuff out, they'll either they'll either have to do with
Speaker 2: retaliation or they won't be believed. That's horrible.
Speaker 13: Yeah, look, it really is, and it has some devastating consequences.
Speaker 13: Not only can they be physically harmed or that mental
Speaker 13: health can be affected, but it can even lead to
Speaker 13: premise your death and financial devastation.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So when we define, if we even define elder abuse,
Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be physical ICM.
Speaker 13: No, it doesn't.
Speaker 14: It can.
Speaker 13: Financial abuse would be coercive control. And then of course
Speaker 13: it can be that physical abuse, and unfortunately it often
Speaker 13: is at the hands of somebody close to them, a
Speaker 13: family member or a friend.
Speaker 2: Now, I think many people might expect this is a
Speaker 2: sort of behavior you might see in a general accommodation setting.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say, but I will an age
Speaker 2: care facility or to like, but this could happen at home, surely, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it.
Speaker 13: Does happen too often at home. The New South Wales
Speaker 13: Aging Disability Commission today released there stat saying that thirty
Speaker 13: percent of the calls that they get are about elder abuse.
Speaker 13: That's quite a large amount that's coming through to them.
Speaker 13: And as you said before, one in six old Australians
Speaker 13: will experienced some form of elder abuse in their life.
Speaker 2: What do you think government need to do? You're calling
Speaker 2: for them to do more. What do they need to do?
Speaker 12: Well?
Speaker 13: Look, the really important role that government can plays raise
Speaker 13: awareness and we've seen lots of state territory governments do
Speaker 13: that today as part of the Awareness Day.
Speaker 14: But at the.
Speaker 13: Central government, we need to make sure this new place
Speaker 13: and that's coming out to replace the current one, will
Speaker 13: fund the services on the front line, and especially for
Speaker 13: older women, because they're often invisible inside either domestic violence
Speaker 13: or age care systems when they are experiencing that later
Speaker 13: in life's domestic violence.
Speaker 2: We've got this thing. I don't know how we got here,
Speaker 2: but this thing in Australia. I think the indigenous culture
Speaker 2: has great respect for elder or senior members of it.
Speaker 2: But I've called this out for a while. I just
Speaker 2: think it appears to me that ageism is aism that's okay. Now,
Speaker 2: this is a lot worse than just discriminating against someone
Speaker 2: in the workforce or whatever it might be. This is
Speaker 2: the abuse of older Australians. Have we missed the boat there?
Speaker 2: I mean, is there a way forward where you see
Speaker 2: that in fact society treats older Australians, older members of
Speaker 2: it with a bit more decency in respect It doesn't
Speaker 2: seem to be the case.
Speaker 13: Look, I think if we look at the journey of
Speaker 13: any of the isms racism, sexism, it always starts with
Speaker 13: raising this awareness. But then it's also about looking inwards.
Speaker 13: You know, we find a lot of people have what
Speaker 13: we call internalized agism, where they take on those negative
Speaker 13: perceptions of aging and they just don't think or realize
Speaker 13: it's unconscious the types of things that they do, whether
Speaker 13: it be an age care worker assuming everybody is deaf
Speaker 13: and speaking loudly to everybody, or whether it be you
Speaker 13: know a little bit of inheritance in patience, as we
Speaker 13: often find with family and thinking that if you're helping
Speaker 13: out mum or dad looking after their finances, that it's
Speaker 13: okay for you to be able to dip into that
Speaker 13: money because you're helping them out. That's all different types
Speaker 13: of forms of elder abuse and ageism is the start
Speaker 13: of how we tackle it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, excellent, Good on you for calling this out and
Speaker 2: thanks so much for your time. Corey, good to chat.
Speaker 2: Thanks very much, all the best. Acting Chief Executive of
Speaker 2: the Council of Aging Australia, Corey Earlam. Well, I think
Speaker 2: you know my view and all of that, and I
Speaker 2: won't be quiet on it because, as I say each
Speaker 2: time we talk about it, it is disgusting. You have
Speaker 2: an older person in your life and you think, right, oh,
Speaker 2: their money is my money, or I'll do what I
Speaker 2: want them to do. And can you imagine going through
Speaker 2: life and having to deal with all the things that
Speaker 2: we have to deal with and you get to the
Speaker 2: latest stages and you think on this person's puppet, family
Speaker 2: member or someone you rely on. It's just disgusting. And
Speaker 2: then please don't walk past and call it out. I mean,
Speaker 2: we are encouraged to call all the isms out as
Speaker 2: we should. I'm sorry to have this view, but it
Speaker 2: seems to me ageism is the ism that's okay. Well,
Speaker 2: it ain't okay, not on this show, shouldn't be okay,
Speaker 2: bloody well any word, it's disgusting, it's appalling fourteen and alfter.
Speaker 1: Ten opinions That matter is you can trust and now
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Speaker 2: Imagine having a job where you know that each year
Speaker 2: you just turn up and you get an extra so
Speaker 2: we read through the week. Anthony Albanesi and other politicians
Speaker 2: are set for a plumped up pay packed in just weeks,
Speaker 2: with the Prime Minister's salary jumping from six hundred and
Speaker 2: seven thousand a year to six hundred and twenty two
Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year just for turning up. Politicians, department
Speaker 2: secretaries and other senior public servants will get a two
Speaker 2: point four percent pay rise from July one, following the
Speaker 2: determination of the twenty twenty five Review of Remuneration for
Speaker 2: Holders of Public Office. Yep, just for turning up. The
Speaker 2: statement issued by the Tribunal on Wednesday noted that the
Speaker 2: total remuneration increases given in the past year have been
Speaker 2: relatively modest. Oh that's nice, just for turning up, while
Speaker 2: the two point four percent pay bump matched inflation. It
Speaker 2: was under the three point four percent wage price index
Speaker 2: for the public sector and less than the three point
Speaker 2: four per cent and four percent increases of ordered by
Speaker 2: the Tribunal after salaries stalled during the COVID pandemic. Well,
Speaker 2: isn't that nice just for turning up. Politicians set to
Speaker 2: get this pay rise include the humble back bencher, going
Speaker 2: from two hundred and thirty three thousand to two hundred
Speaker 2: and thirty nine thousand, while Susan Lee gets a boost
Speaker 2: of ten thousand to four hundred and forty two thousand.
Speaker 2: Jim Charmers annual pay it goes to four hundred and
Speaker 2: forty eight thousand, an increase of ten thousand, and capitet
Speaker 2: ministers up four thousand dollars to four hundred and twelve
Speaker 2: thousand dollars just for turning up. There's a big debate
Speaker 2: happening in Australia now. In fact, we're about to get
Speaker 2: a round table on productivity. You know, the idea of
Speaker 2: getting a bit more for getting a bit more. But
Speaker 2: each year you and I sit here having to pay
Speaker 2: power bills. He can't jump go to the supermarket. You
Speaker 2: look at every price twice of course you can't bloody
Speaker 2: believe it, and then the people we elect to make
Speaker 2: our lives better get a bump of thousands of dollars
Speaker 2: just for turning up. It's Weekends on two GBN four
Speaker 2: BC with Luke Grant Sunday Morning. This is a time
Speaker 2: where we spotlight an Australian who's done extraordinary things. It's
Speaker 2: Nick caldus Ao. He was rightfully honored amongst the King's
Speaker 2: Birthday honors announced just a week ago. He's currently the
Speaker 2: Assistant Commander in Chief of the Abu Dhabi Police Force and,
Speaker 2: amongst other things, one of Australia's most significant police officers.
Speaker 2: I'm delighted to say he's on the line from Abu
Speaker 2: dhby thank you for your time. You must be somewhat humbled,
Speaker 2: my friend.
Speaker 14: It is. I'm very humbled, Luke, and I'm very grateful.
Speaker 14: I hope in some ways it's not just a recognition
Speaker 14: of me, cognission of all the communities, including my own
Speaker 14: out of the community, the Egyptian community, the copt the
Speaker 14: community that I'm not only a part of, but I've
Speaker 14: worked very closely with it. They've supported me out of decades,
Speaker 14: and I hope it's a recognition of news a class
Speaker 14: police men and women as well, who spent the best
Speaker 14: part of four decades, you know, being a part of
Speaker 14: So I'm very grateful and HUMBLEDT just came out of
Speaker 14: left field, but I'm very grateful.
Speaker 2: Tell me about how Nick, born in Egypt ends up
Speaker 2: with the family in Australia.
Speaker 14: My grade in nineteen sixty nine, and I always was
Speaker 14: a very cold July day where arrived in Sydney and
Speaker 14: we didn't know anyone or anything, which makes a little
Speaker 14: more remarkable. I look at where I've been, you know
Speaker 14: what I've done. I don't know how I've got it.
Speaker 14: We came and we settled in Maryville initially and then
Speaker 14: moved around to see me for a little while. I
Speaker 14: joined the police. And when I'm from there that I think.
Speaker 14: One thing my father, he passed away many years ago,
Speaker 14: instilled in all of us is about hard work, doing
Speaker 14: the right thing and actually caring about people and as
Speaker 14: you go along in your way, and I hope I've
Speaker 14: done that along the way. But I look back on
Speaker 14: it all work and I just feel incredibly blessed to
Speaker 14: have worked with all the people I've worked with and
Speaker 14: done of the things I've done.
Speaker 2: Did you ays want to be a copper or was
Speaker 2: that something that you know, it seemed like a good
Speaker 2: idea at the time. Did you grow up wanting to
Speaker 2: be in the police force?
Speaker 14: I did, actually very much so, and all my family
Speaker 14: expect that I'll do it sooner or later. It took
Speaker 14: me a little while, but I actually didn't seek I
Speaker 14: was tall enough, and in the late seventies and early
Speaker 14: eighties there were height requirements for new stuff. After weeks
Speaker 14: when I finally got up there got some went into
Speaker 14: Crease Headquarters that in what used to be the Avery
Speaker 14: building in College Street. I was tall enough. There was
Speaker 14: no problem. I was actually too skilled. You wouldn't believe
Speaker 14: that now.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, you've you've got to you've got to
Speaker 2: be got to make yourself strong. That's what you've got
Speaker 2: to do. Your need food, don't you That's yeah.
Speaker 14: Yeah now. And then one side flight obviously I'm in
Speaker 14: and the class that I went to, the class one
Speaker 14: set of nine. We're just fantastic and we're still in touch,
Speaker 14: most of us, and Jez renions.
Speaker 2: Jeez, in all the work you've done, it's it's you know,
Speaker 2: it's a bit like talking to a footballer and asking
Speaker 2: them their favorite performance. But you've been you've worked in
Speaker 2: the homicide squad, obviously involved in some of the most complex,
Speaker 2: high profile murder investigations. Is there one that not necessarily
Speaker 2: sticks out because you know you've got the job done quickly,
Speaker 2: but was perhaps complicated and required excellent policing to get
Speaker 2: a result. Is there is there one that you particularly
Speaker 2: reflect on.
Speaker 14: That's a good question. I'm a bit loath to sort
Speaker 14: of seeing one out, but I guess the one that
Speaker 14: took the longest and was in many ways satisfying to
Speaker 14: resolve was the murder of John Human, the member of Parliament,
Speaker 14: which took seven or eight years for us to get
Speaker 14: a conviction, and then another seven or eight years where
Speaker 14: they appears all the way to the High Court. Was convicted,
Speaker 14: he sentenced to life, never to be released, and it's
Speaker 14: made doubt in my mind that he did it, and
Speaker 14: that he was planned an inquiry, a law commission if
Speaker 14: you like, into his conviction, which was essentially an inquiry
Speaker 14: to what we said and did fifteen years before. So
Speaker 14: it was quite torturous, and that it was I never
Speaker 14: heard any of my teammates say, look, it's too hard.
Speaker 14: I want to get out. We're all stuck to the task.
Speaker 14: We all stuck together and among my closest friends, and
Speaker 14: I'm really proud of all of them and the fact
Speaker 14: that we've stuck together and got the job done.
Speaker 2: I know this, it's probably a bit of a whole
Speaker 2: would thing. But Nick, how do you stop something like that,
Speaker 2: which I guess to some extent becomes an obsession? How
Speaker 2: do you stop it overtaking your life? Can you actually
Speaker 2: do that? Because you end up living and breathing this thing,
Speaker 2: don't you?
Speaker 14: You do, and with the real danger of that. But
Speaker 14: I think I've had over a decade in the homicide squad,
Speaker 14: and you do learn to sort of not compartmentalize, but
Speaker 14: workers work on his own family's family, and you try
Speaker 14: and not let it intrude on your thoughts while you're
Speaker 14: with home and family and so on. I think most
Speaker 14: of us are pretty good with that. But this was
Speaker 14: quite significant, look because it was described by the sentencing
Speaker 14: judge Justice Dunford's a political assassination man who was killed
Speaker 14: not because of what, you know, anything he did, but
Speaker 14: because of simply who he was. And it was pretty
Speaker 14: clear that the fellow who killed him from, you know,
Speaker 14: was his political opponent and wasn't going to get anywhere
Speaker 14: in you got, and so you thought, okay, I'll thought
Speaker 14: that out.
Speaker 15: You did.
Speaker 14: It was quite tragical.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. Yeah, I'll ask you quickly. I'm kind
Speaker 2: of uncomfortable, but I want to I remember a number
Speaker 2: of colleagues, might even include me here at this radio station,
Speaker 2: thought that you were the perfect appointment as police commissioner.
Speaker 2: You decided to step away and pursue something different. Can
Speaker 2: you look back at that fondly? Do you look back
Speaker 2: at that with frustration? I probably shouldn't pry because I
Speaker 2: had great respect for you, but I want to ask
Speaker 2: you that, mate.
Speaker 14: I appreciate that. You know. That's a good quesse. There's
Speaker 14: no no disrespect man, and I'm not offended in any way.
Speaker 14: Look up, only thirty five years commissioner at the time,
Speaker 14: ender scip you only got another four or five year contract.
Speaker 14: If community wasn't going anywhere and one was being offered
Speaker 14: all sorts of things, I've decided it was to go.
Speaker 14: I don't look back with any sense of frustration. I've
Speaker 14: said in the book I've written, I regret nothing. I
Speaker 14: moved on I made a decision consciously not to stay
Speaker 14: in Sydney once I got out, would I shoulder was
Speaker 14: never really me. I took on the leadership role and
Speaker 14: we investigate United Nations investigation in the chemical workers in
Speaker 14: the area, and then a bunch of other things, obviously
Speaker 14: think in the world, conditioned the military source side, and
Speaker 14: I'm now working with Ada Dabi police in the United
Speaker 14: around and Emirates, and I'm quite proud of that. So
Speaker 14: you just you move on, you look ahead. That's been
Speaker 14: you know what our family does. We left things behind
Speaker 14: in Egypt as well. You just have to look ahead,
Speaker 14: do as you know as well as you can with
Speaker 14: whatever you've got in front of you, and enjoy life,
Speaker 14: which is what I hope I've done.
Speaker 2: Wow, your work as the Royal Commissioner in the veteran
Speaker 2: suicide is Look again, it's a silly question, but I
Speaker 2: spoke to you during that process. I could just sense,
Speaker 2: and you don't need me to say this, but I
Speaker 2: could just sense how important you knew it was, and
Speaker 2: you work there is exemply. But I wonder if we've
Speaker 2: actually met your expectations in the way we've dealt with things.
Speaker 14: I think it's too early to tell whether the Law
Speaker 14: Commision has had the impact that everyone wanted it to have.
Speaker 14: The government very quickly responded, in fact that you had
Speaker 14: record time because they're working. That's how important it was.
Speaker 14: Except one hundred and four one hundred and twenty two recommendations,
Speaker 14: including the main run of establishing the body that monitors
Speaker 14: welfare and reports publicly. We're working on all of that now,
Speaker 14: so I'm optimistic about the future. I'm being accused of
Speaker 14: being an eternal optimist, but it was really important work.
Speaker 14: It was definitely hardgoing that there was a lot of
Speaker 14: sadness really that I am the stuff that even we
Speaker 14: had a welfare regime in place for everyone. But the
Speaker 14: thing that struck new because the similarities between the problems
Speaker 14: in the military and law enforcement and emergency services is startling.
Speaker 14: It's exactly the same problems. I've had a bit to
Speaker 14: say about that. I was granted a meeting with there
Speaker 14: were Police Commissioners of Australia and New Zealand through RAMSPAR
Speaker 14: and we're this customer full in frank discussion and we're
Speaker 14: all doing bits and pieces in terms of welfare and research.
Speaker 14: I'm trying to view with these problems, but I won't
Speaker 14: go over it all again. But when we finished the
Speaker 14: Law Commission, in the closing address, I did say that
Speaker 14: this has been a national disgrace, how we've treated our
Speaker 14: veterans and serving members, how we've taken it along off
Speaker 14: the ball of society. Our media and the political class
Speaker 14: did not pain enough attention the fifty seven inquiries that
Speaker 14: preceded US seven hundred and seven recommendations, most of which
Speaker 14: were not acquitted fully. And it was in plain sight anyway,
Speaker 14: we're there now, we've had the inquiry, We've highlighted the problems.
Speaker 14: We took an under usual approach. We decided to talk
Speaker 14: to the media and do as much coverage as we
Speaker 14: could get it all out there, basically, And a lot
Speaker 14: of people from the legal fraternity felt that they were
Speaker 14: uncomfortable with that. It's a precidented for the Royal Commissioner,
Speaker 14: a sitting royal commission to say so n us and
Speaker 14: do so much with the media. But you felt that
Speaker 14: the only way we're going to achieve real lasting change
Speaker 14: was to actually bring all the problems out into the
Speaker 14: sunshine and let them be dealt with a name and
Speaker 14: deal with hopefully. And I hope and pray we've done that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, you were brilliant. Brilliant. You're the assistant Commander
Speaker 2: in chief of the Abu Dhabi Police Force. So what
Speaker 2: does work look like? How different is it to the
Speaker 2: days when you were operating in uniform in New South Wales.
Speaker 14: It is very different obviously culturally and every other way.
Speaker 14: There's some really incredibly clever people here in the police,
Speaker 14: leaning government generally, and I think I'm beginning to recognize
Speaker 14: after only a couple of months that that actually much
Speaker 14: more advanced than Australia in many ways in terms of
Speaker 14: use of technology and other ways they're dealing with things,
Speaker 14: and they're very open minded, which is what attracted me
Speaker 14: to the role, and I'm very grateful and again humbled
Speaker 14: to be asked to play this part. I'm bringing a
Speaker 14: different perspective, I guess, to the way things have done.
Speaker 14: I'm bringing the international connections that I'm happy to build
Speaker 14: over the decades to bear and it's going to be
Speaker 14: a very interesting few years ji a couple of years
Speaker 14: while i'm here. And again my father has taught me
Speaker 14: to don't move on until you've made your mark, and
Speaker 14: I hope I will make my Marqi. I'm certainly not
Speaker 14: very it. So I played some small contribution in their
Speaker 14: revolution here and I really hope to build the connections
Speaker 14: between the golf and the air countries and Australian law
Speaker 14: enforcement more strongly than they have been in the past.
Speaker 2: Well, Denck, we side this partner sound out to talk
Speaker 2: to remarkable Australians and you're certainly one of those. Nick
Speaker 2: Calder's AO, congratulations and can I get to say Nick,
Speaker 2: thank you for everything you've done, not just here but
Speaker 2: all around the world. An exceptional human being and we
Speaker 2: value the opportunity to talk to you and I wish
Speaker 2: you well.
Speaker 14: Thank you very much, Luc, and thank you for your
Speaker 14: continuing support of those in uniform make military and police
Speaker 14: and emergency services. It's been fantastic. I just I'm really
Speaker 14: grateful to you for thinking of Thanks.
Speaker 2: Not at all, Nick Caldice outstanding, all the best mate,
Speaker 2: and plenty of feedback, just decoing everything that I've been saying.
Speaker 2: A bit of a fanboy moment for me, because I
Speaker 2: do you think he's remarkable And look on the back
Speaker 2: of that chat to Nick, New South Wales Police legacy
Speaker 2: and collaboration with seven Australian Police Legacies have launched National
Speaker 2: Police Legacy Day to celebrate the important work done by
Speaker 2: the nonprofit charities around the country to support police officers
Speaker 2: and their loved ones. The newly established National Police Legacy
Speaker 2: Day observed annually on the seventeenth of journe It aims
Speaker 2: to bring attention to the difficulties faced by police families
Speaker 2: left behind after tragedy, the significant financial strain and emotional distress,
Speaker 2: and challenges reldded to the family structure and daily life.
Speaker 2: This National Police Legacy Day will feature a variety of activities,
Speaker 2: community events, fundraising efforts and a call to illuminate buildings
Speaker 2: around the state in a blue light. In the evening.
Speaker 2: The opera house sales will be blue in Sydney and Premiere.
Speaker 2: You've done well there, tick, So you'll see that on
Speaker 2: the seventeenth Tuesday. And when you see blue, we'll hear
Speaker 2: about this. You'll know, wow, got to get behind that.
Speaker 2: We thank all police all over the country for their service.
Speaker 1: Now on weekends talking technology with Stephen Finnick from tech
Speaker 1: guide dot Com. TODAYU now at Harvey Norman save up
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Speaker 1: on Windows eleven computers over five hundred dollars Buffer end Sunday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you've got a question for Stephen Fennick one three
Speaker 1: one eight seven three, call us now. We'll get you
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Speaker 1: And I should mention that if you miss talking to
Speaker 1: Stephen here, you can always go to tech guide dot com,
Speaker 1: dot a you and you can click on a think
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Speaker 2: Now you know you can do that. But ring now
Speaker 2: so you can have a chat to the grade man.
Speaker 2: How are you good?
Speaker 16: Luke?
Speaker 17: Good?
Speaker 2: Thank you? After the footy later on we'll be out
Speaker 2: there mate, cheering on the rabbit O.
Speaker 3: So hopefully you win this today against the doggies. Yeah,
Speaker 3: well they're down some, but yeah you'll still yeah Latrell
Speaker 3: and Cammel Graham. I think it's still injured. So yeah,
Speaker 3: it's sort of we'll see how we go, mate, but
Speaker 3: I'm confident that good okay.
Speaker 2: Good okay. Apple unveils a new design for all its
Speaker 2: software platforms and new features for the iPhone and the
Speaker 2: Apple Watch. So tell us what they've got in mind here. Well,
Speaker 2: this was earlier this week they had.
Speaker 3: The Worldwide Developers Conference, which is all about the software,
Speaker 3: and the first thing they did was unify all the
Speaker 3: names of all the software and there's WOS, mac os, yeah,
Speaker 3: and they all had different numbers. Now it's all twenty six,
Speaker 3: which it reflects the upcoming year.
Speaker 2: So they did that.
Speaker 3: They also unveil the new design language across the all
Speaker 3: the platforms to do so this liquid glass sort of
Speaker 3: look and feel, so that the actual interface is that
Speaker 3: the menus and tabs and stuff are now going to
Speaker 3: be look like they're made of glass, still like transparent,
Speaker 3: still see content, but you can still access all the
Speaker 3: all the buttons and things. So it's they're going to
Speaker 3: adopt that as well for these new OS's. But the
Speaker 3: iPhone features, there's some new features coming up. One I
Speaker 3: like his hold assist. So who have been on hold
Speaker 3: and you're waiting for ages on hold? Well, now the
Speaker 3: phone will wait on hold for you. So it'll just
Speaker 3: it'll wait when you get to the front of the line,
Speaker 3: it'll tell the person, Okay, I'm going to grab Stephen
Speaker 3: now here. He'll talk to you in a second and
Speaker 3: then you can answer the call.
Speaker 2: That's one.
Speaker 3: The other one, this is a good one too. Call
Speaker 3: screening is another thing that they've been introduced, and this
Speaker 3: base like it says it's like having the secretary outside
Speaker 3: your door answering your calls right and if you don't
Speaker 3: know the number, you can sort of send it to
Speaker 3: call screening. It'll ask the person who about what do
Speaker 3: you want to do, and the person will be responding
Speaker 3: and you can read it in real time what they're saying,
Speaker 3: and you may may think, okay, I'll answer this call,
Speaker 3: or or you know, it could be a scammer.
Speaker 2: Trying to scam.
Speaker 3: You could be a telemarketer. If you don't know the number,
Speaker 3: it's sort of got you back there. And the other
Speaker 3: one too is live translation. So if you're talking in
Speaker 3: another if you're talking to someone in another language, say
Speaker 3: you're in Paris and you want to book a restaurant
Speaker 3: and you can't speak French on the call or on
Speaker 3: a message or FaceTime, you're able to speak in English
Speaker 3: and then it'll translate to French for them, and then
Speaker 3: they'll speak their response and then translate English for you
Speaker 3: in real time. You know how you can send an
Speaker 3: email and if you don't, you think you want a
Speaker 3: bit there you can understand you. I wonder if you
Speaker 3: can untranslated. If you're having a blue we down have
Speaker 3: a table for you, sir. Well, you, my friend, are
Speaker 3: a complete don't do that. Yeah, I don't think maybe,
Speaker 3: I don't think that features enabled just yet?
Speaker 2: Right when when we see this stuff? Mate, Well, there's
Speaker 2: going to be.
Speaker 3: A public beta from July. So if you want to
Speaker 3: sign up early and be one of the first to
Speaker 3: try it, and then you can report any bugs, you
Speaker 3: can do that. But will sign up go to the website.
Speaker 3: You go to the website on your device, so if
Speaker 3: it's your iPhone, go to the website on your iPhone
Speaker 3: and it'll download this little piece of software. Then it'll
Speaker 3: restart your phone and then the new software will be
Speaker 3: there ready to load.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: But it's what's called a public beach, public beta, yeah,
Speaker 2: which is something we used to do in the old days.
Speaker 2: I thought we'd moved on fair enough.
Speaker 3: This is the beta program, yeah, okay, but it will
Speaker 3: be officially available around the time of the iPhone seventeen
Speaker 3: comes out, which is mid September.
Speaker 2: Now I didn't get sixteen. I think I think fift.
Speaker 2: What have you got?
Speaker 3: Show me your phone?
Speaker 2: I'll tell you at a glance.
Speaker 3: Have you got the dynamic island at the top of.
Speaker 2: The little loop?
Speaker 3: I think I think you got a fifteen.
Speaker 2: I'm going to how long you had it for?
Speaker 3: Well, tell me how long you had the phone?
Speaker 2: No idea? Okay, I got no idea. Woll that was
Speaker 2: fire buck?
Speaker 3: Unlock your phone and give me just give me a
Speaker 3: look at the home screen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the fifteen fifteen. Yeah, you've got what model
Speaker 2: it is?
Speaker 12: That is the Pro?
Speaker 16: Is it Pro?
Speaker 2: Not the Pro Max? That's the Pro and I think
Speaker 2: it's a Prey. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, the seventeen that we've already seen rumors of
Speaker 3: what it's going to look like. The rumor is that
Speaker 3: the camera bump on the right, So turn it over.
Speaker 3: Look at the camera bump, So where the three lenses are.
Speaker 3: That's going to go across the whole width of the
Speaker 3: back of the of the back of the fourteen Pro.
Speaker 16: There you go.
Speaker 2: Fourteen.
Speaker 3: That's when they introduced the dynamic island, which is that little.
Speaker 2: Hole at the top. Better be Pro. Yeah, you're due
Speaker 2: for an upgrade. I think this year then, mate, I am. Yeah.
Speaker 3: If you're listing at home, it'll be the seventeen iPhone seventeen. Yeah,
Speaker 3: well there's there's going to be yes. So the new
Speaker 3: iOS twenty six will be on already preloaded on the seventeen.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're beating callers, Paul, your first tack when you
Speaker 2: help you, Paul, Morning Morning.
Speaker 18: So when I'm thinking of buying a new TV, and
Speaker 18: quite like the idea of olead, Yes, I haven't read
Speaker 18: a couple of things about them. One about this concern
Speaker 18: with burning, Yes, and there's also that they're particularly fragile.
Speaker 3: Not really, No, the old I remember l G, and
Speaker 3: I've still got this TV. LG had an O lead
Speaker 3: that really showed off.
Speaker 2: Hang on, did you get one hundred new TVs a
Speaker 2: year and you still got one?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 3: No, no, this is one that I paid for.
Speaker 2: I bought this one.
Speaker 3: Okay, But the the O lead screen is so it
Speaker 3: is so thin, and for a time it was a
Speaker 3: real talk. It was a sort of the point of difference,
Speaker 3: and LG really highlighted how like its aut as thick
Speaker 3: as a two dollar coin. It's just nothing and it
Speaker 3: is fragile, all right, But you know today's designs there
Speaker 3: over that there looks I think there are about ten
Speaker 3: eleven millimeters now and they're not.
Speaker 2: As fragile at all.
Speaker 3: To address your other thick concern of burning, now, burning
Speaker 3: is when you see O lead for a start to
Speaker 3: understand what it is. It's a self illuminating technology. There's
Speaker 3: no backlight. That's why they can be so thin. So
Speaker 3: when a chargers pass through, the pixel turns.
Speaker 16: On or off.
Speaker 3: That's why you get the really amazing black levels because
Speaker 3: the pixel turns off, there's no backlight to block. It's off.
Speaker 3: It's black on O lead is you can't beat it.
Speaker 3: So the burning issue is if there's an image that
Speaker 3: you say, when you watch a morning breakfast show and
Speaker 3: they've got the logo or the bottom or ticker on
Speaker 3: the bottom, that can if you're watching that all the time,
Speaker 3: it can burn in. In fact, the LGTV that I've got,
Speaker 3: it's like eight years old, it's burnt in.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to actually trowl it away. It's burned in.
Speaker 3: But the features now like Samsung cell Olead and so
Speaker 3: to LG and they've got a feature owl called pixel jogging,
Speaker 3: so that any static image actually slightly moved. So say
Speaker 3: you go to the home screen, the home screen actually
Speaker 3: jogs over a couple of pixels and up and down
Speaker 3: and left and right, so it's never stationary. There's no
Speaker 3: issue with an LED TV with a BACKLIGHTE right, but yeah,
Speaker 3: O lead. You'll even see on old TV a screen saver,
Speaker 3: so if you pour something, it'll then come up with
Speaker 3: a screen saver, so there's nothing static on the screen
Speaker 3: to avoid the burning. So no risk of burning nowadays.
Speaker 3: Bye with confidence.
Speaker 2: They are thank you, Paul. I've got a Mini LED.
Speaker 2: They are they good?
Speaker 16: Well?
Speaker 3: Mini LED is the backlight, so you've got the LED
Speaker 3: lights a Q LEAD. You got a q LEAD Mini LED,
Speaker 3: so the backlights the size of a grain of rice.
Speaker 3: It's really small so that you get they can light
Speaker 3: up and dark and different even more precise parts of
Speaker 3: the screen to get you better black levels, better contrast,
Speaker 3: better color.
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, go meet Greg. How can we help you? Greg?
Speaker 16: Yeah?
Speaker 12: Hi, Tie Luke, great show.
Speaker 2: Thanks asked Steve a question for.
Speaker 12: Thank you? I Stephen, Look sorry mate, I recently purchased
Speaker 12: not quite a year, the Swan four K Max cameras
Speaker 12: and the look. I'll just be trying to be brief,
Speaker 12: but I have spent hours and hours with the tech support. First,
Speaker 12: I'll just be sure, but that wouldn't do. The solar
Speaker 12: weren't charging. So I bought plug in like the C
Speaker 12: type solar panel that that fixed that. The signal, the
Speaker 12: Wi Fi signal, some of them don't. When I look
Speaker 12: at me up, they're not on. They're not low, they're
Speaker 12: not high, they're not medium.
Speaker 3: So what's your WiFi like? And have you got good
Speaker 3: Wi Fi already?
Speaker 16: Yes?
Speaker 12: Yes, it's an Archer something model.
Speaker 3: But cameras within the range of the Wi Fi because
Speaker 3: I know you place your CA cameras outside. Cameras are
Speaker 3: literally on the outside of outside of your network, outside
Speaker 3: your house, so you need to have decent Wi Fi
Speaker 3: to reach.
Speaker 2: Them for a start.
Speaker 3: But if you've got that, then you can tick that
Speaker 3: off the off the problem list.
Speaker 12: Yes, yes, well I've got them close to you so
Speaker 12: many files and I actually put them close and still
Speaker 12: no different, I mean right near them.
Speaker 3: Was there any issue when you were connecting them, when
Speaker 3: you were connecting them for the first time, was there
Speaker 3: any issue? Did they connect easily?
Speaker 12: Easily? Turn it on?
Speaker 3: Usually usually you need to and this is getting a
Speaker 3: bit technical, usually you need to connect it to the
Speaker 3: two point four gigahertz part of your network. So every
Speaker 3: network is either dual band or tryband. Tryband. Try band
Speaker 3: is two point four five and six. Duel band is
Speaker 3: two point four and five. And there are some routers
Speaker 3: that actually specify which and which network is which, so
Speaker 3: it's easy to say I need to connect to that network,
Speaker 3: So that could be an issue too, unless it's a.
Speaker 2: D like now nowadays.
Speaker 3: A lot of the cameras now dual band, so connects
Speaker 3: to any band, so do there's no issue with it.
Speaker 3: Two point four is advantage because it's got longer range.
Speaker 3: That's why they choose the two point four because normally
Speaker 3: literally on the edge of your network is where you
Speaker 3: can pick up two point four mate, Have you ever
Speaker 3: thought of doing the big reset, reset it all, start
Speaker 3: it all again, connect everything from scratch and just sort
Speaker 3: of see if that fixes everything.
Speaker 2: You've done that already?
Speaker 12: Thank you? Take you mate, thee ah through the technicians
Speaker 12: and that they told me the last time I spoke
Speaker 12: to on Stephen, they said that you need a Wi
Speaker 12: Fi extended. Well, I looked at it, I went to
Speaker 12: where I bought it, and I asked him what's the
Speaker 12: best This is what I bought. What's the best extender
Speaker 12: for my archer? And he said, you don't need it
Speaker 12: because the NVR does not use Wi Fi. It's in
Speaker 12: the camera. So I've got no idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll give you a tip, mate. I reckon your
Speaker 3: modem a range extender. You need a mesh network mesh
Speaker 3: system so like a netgear. All be the Amazon, Eero, Google, Nest,
Speaker 3: Wi Fi, TP Link have them as well. It's a
Speaker 3: system that one attaches to your modem. The others are
Speaker 3: around your house. And actually it's like an extension called
Speaker 3: for your WiFi consistently across your entire home that I
Speaker 3: think probably would fix your problem.
Speaker 2: All right, give that a go, Greg. I did that
Speaker 2: in my place and it certainly fixed all my instantly.
Speaker 2: Was brilliant good advice from you. Break them back with more. Now,
Speaker 2: if you want to speak to Steve, you've got to
Speaker 2: call early, right, So let's say good ay to terrees,
Speaker 2: good toes. How can Steven help you today?
Speaker 19: Hi?
Speaker 20: That?
Speaker 10: Oh Hi, thank you for talking to me. Look, I'll
Speaker 10: try and make it quick. A few months ago I
Speaker 10: bought an Apple Watch yep, and I'm wondering if you
Speaker 10: can just give me some advice. I've been around the
Speaker 10: world with Apple so to speak, and The thing is,
Speaker 10: I get Vertigo and I've been taking not I've been
Speaker 10: taking Niles for a couple of times, but I don't
Speaker 10: get it often. But I was told to get an
Speaker 10: Apple Watch. Now I've been in store and talk to
Speaker 10: them about the fact that it's meant to call one
Speaker 10: of my family if I'm on the floor if I've
Speaker 10: had a fall, but it's not responding. So I went
Speaker 10: in store and they looked at it and they said,
Speaker 10: I need to talk to Apple Contact center, Like, just
Speaker 10: talk to it on the phone. God run in circles.
Speaker 10: But the thing is.
Speaker 19: In store.
Speaker 10: They told me that the fall detection in the Apple
Speaker 10: Watch is I got the upgraded one which was going
Speaker 10: to do all that, but in store they told me
Speaker 10: that the technology is not quite up there yet.
Speaker 2: Really, well, look what we're going to run out of time?
Speaker 3: Fall?
Speaker 2: By the way, I picked accidentally the other day. My
Speaker 2: watch picked it up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.
Speaker 2: I jumped off.
Speaker 3: I jumped off a ladder the other day and my
Speaker 3: hand hit the desk and it said, oh, yeah, you've
Speaker 3: had a fall. I'd say, Well, for them to say
Speaker 3: that it's not quite there yet, is is wrong? Really
Speaker 3: accurate and they shouldn't be saying that about their own
Speaker 3: product for stuff. But I'd recommend just restoring the watch
Speaker 3: and comparing it to your phone again. And if it's
Speaker 3: not picking up your falls, then there must be something
Speaker 3: wrong with the device itself. So and you can try
Speaker 3: other brands. Like I've said, you need to have a
Speaker 3: Samsung or an Android phone. For Samsung's watches, they have
Speaker 3: full detection as well as to others. But the Apple
Speaker 3: full detection I understand is pretty accurate. I'm surprised it's
Speaker 3: not working.
Speaker 2: Good luck to read. Lilyn wants to know quickly. I
Speaker 2: bought an iPhone sixteen. Well I get the new software
Speaker 2: update it's coming.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well the iPhone the new software will be compatible
Speaker 3: all the way back to iPhone eleven.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, so I can keep my forte of course
Speaker 2: you can.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can get the new phone.
Speaker 2: Trying to spend money.
Speaker 3: No, no, you don't have to get let's make exactly,
Speaker 3: you don't need to buy a new phone to get
Speaker 3: the new i iOS. It's compatible iPhone eleven on.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Good to see you mate, good luck this afternoon.
Speaker 2: Thanks Luke. After the footy, mister Fennick with his mum
Speaker 2: will be there cheering on the Bunnies tech Guide dot
Speaker 2: com dot a U S seven All right back.
Speaker 12: In a second.
Speaker 1: Across Australia, it's back to weekends with look Grant.
Speaker 2: Hello there. I hope your Sunday morning's superb at the
Speaker 2: fifteenth of June, and it's good for you to tune in.
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Speaker 2: are you going to do? Is click on the feedback.
Speaker 2: I can't, are you? I don't think we even refer
Speaker 2: to Jim Junkie. It's so two thousand and fifteen ish
Speaker 2: but a Sydney. Jim's controversial dress code rules, which ban
Speaker 2: women from wearing short shorts, boob tubes what and one
Speaker 2: shoulder tops? Oh what about the poor people with only
Speaker 2: one shoulder That's wrong, have come under fire, with members
Speaker 2: claiming the guidelines are overbearing and sexist. Members of this
Speaker 2: gym at Camperdown have been put off by the rules
Speaker 2: the fact that they're constantly played on TV screens throughout
Speaker 2: the gym. So not only can you not wear a
Speaker 2: boob tube. I wonder if that applies to women as well.
Speaker 2: See what I did there? Not only can you not
Speaker 2: wear a boob tube, yet you're reminded about the fact
Speaker 2: that your face is being rubbed into it. Yes, I
Speaker 2: said that women and men's clothing are displayed with We're
Speaker 2: not still having women's and men's clothing?
Speaker 17: Are we?
Speaker 2: Shortly? It's isn't it? Just clothing? Women's and men's clothing
Speaker 2: displayed with chicks or crosses on a loop? But there
Speaker 2: isn't much difference between the approved and unimproved women's shorts.
Speaker 2: This is a story in the Telegraph today. As well
Speaker 2: as short shorts, the gym has vanned crop tops, one shoulder,
Speaker 2: crop tops, and the aforementioned boob tubes. Hey tell you
Speaker 2: what I had the other day? You know those the tubes?
Speaker 2: Are they tubes? Twbs? How good are they? I haven't
Speaker 2: had them since I was young, so I haven't adding
Speaker 2: for a few weeks, all right, thirty bloody years. Feel
Speaker 2: better now and they're very nice, very nice. Okay, back
Speaker 2: to me. For men, muscle singlets that reveal too much
Speaker 2: back or chest are also prohibited. This is unbelievable. The
Speaker 2: gym z owners Michael Wood and Paul Vella, said the
Speaker 2: guidelines were in place to maintain the family friendly environment.
Speaker 2: Our guidelines require appropriate wear that ensure safety during equipment
Speaker 2: use and maintains our family friendly environment, serving ages fourteen
Speaker 2: plus with an on site crash. The rules have sparked
Speaker 2: fierce online debate, with gym goers labeling the rules strange
Speaker 2: and sexist and questioning why they're displayed so prominently throughout
Speaker 2: the gym. It's almost like, sh don't wear a boob jube,
Speaker 2: but don't tell anyone. I mean, they've got to make
Speaker 2: it out there. Well, you know what, it's their business.
Speaker 2: They can do what they want. Surely. Oh. I was
Speaker 2: originally outraged like the rest of you, but I'm thinking
Speaker 2: good on them. And you know what, if you've got
Speaker 2: to go to the tube, if you got out of
Speaker 2: the gym wearing a boob tube, then that's just not
Speaker 2: the gym for you. There's not like there's not just one.
Speaker 2: There's a few of them. Anyway. I just thought you'd
Speaker 2: enjoy me talking about that. Perhaps you did, or perhaps
Speaker 2: you were long gone and which could come back. More
Speaker 2: than one hundred and seventy people have been arrested during
Speaker 2: the Police Transport Command's latest campaign targeting transport network of fenders,
Speaker 2: bringing the total Operation war Reta arrests to eight hundred
Speaker 2: and thirty three since its inception last year. Operation war
Speaker 2: Reta was established to target violent offenders using Sydney's transport
Speaker 2: network and those committing offenses on public transport. Since the launch,
Speaker 2: officers of later total of fourteen hundred and seventy four
Speaker 2: charges as a result of this. Do you feel safer
Speaker 2: on public transport? I wonder they always have these incidents
Speaker 2: of note. Twenty past midnight on a Monday, police were
Speaker 2: called to Argyll Street, Paramatta following reports of a stalking incident.
Speaker 2: Officers responded. They were told a seventeen year old girl
Speaker 2: had been followed from Paramatta Railway station by a man
Speaker 2: who allegedly inappropriately touched her. Operation war Retah officers arrested
Speaker 2: a thirty four year old man in Paramatter a few
Speaker 2: weeks after It was taken to Paramatta Police station and
Speaker 2: was charred refused bail. He appeared before Paramatta Local Court
Speaker 2: June five. He was further refused bail. He'll reappeared before
Speaker 2: the same court in July. So that's a pretty significant outcome,
Speaker 2: But I think the bigger point and good on police.
Speaker 2: We'd certainly appreciate the work they do, but I just
Speaker 2: wonder if you, as a result of that, feel safer.
Speaker 2: The divisions in the US have been on full display today.
Speaker 2: On one hand, patriotism, pageantry, and all things red, white
Speaker 2: and blue were on show to military parade celebrating the army.
Speaker 2: The US Armies two hundred and fiftieth anniversary. Seven thousand
Speaker 2: troops and tanks, both new and old, rolled through the
Speaker 2: streets of Washington. Instrumental versions of rock music from artists
Speaker 2: including Van Halen and Metallica. The parade was requested by
Speaker 2: President Donald Trump himself and who led a US Army
Speaker 2: enlistment oath.
Speaker 7: And the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God, Congratulations, Congratulations,
Speaker 7: welcome to the United States Army.
Speaker 17: And have a great life.
Speaker 7: Thank you very much, have our great life.
Speaker 2: He then addressed league ceremony, where he hate praise on
Speaker 2: the history and on the future the military.
Speaker 21: No matter the obstacles, our warriors will charge into battle.
Speaker 21: They will plunge into the crucible affire, and they will
Speaker 21: seize the crown of victory. Because the United States of
Speaker 21: America will always have the grace of Almighty God and
Speaker 21: the iron will of the United States Army. Congratulations to everybody.
Speaker 2: We love our country.
Speaker 7: We've never done better. Thank you, God, Bless you, God
Speaker 7: bless the Army, and God blass America.
Speaker 22: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, demonstrations organized by a group
Speaker 2: called No Kings, which kicked off ours beforehand in major
Speaker 2: cities including Los Angeles, Philadelphia, and even Nashville. Demonstrators poured
Speaker 2: onto streets and parks to decry Donald Trump as a
Speaker 2: dictator or would be king, and to criticize his use
Speaker 2: of military force to curb protesters. It follows a week
Speaker 2: of increasingly violent clashes between protesters and authorities in LA
Speaker 2: in response to immigration raids. The situation in LA has escalated.
Speaker 2: I'm told again today, as someone said earlier in a
Speaker 2: text message, Donald Trump is the result of someone not
Speaker 2: continuing to kick the can down the road on three one,
Speaker 2: eight seven three. Plenty of news about today related to
Speaker 2: artificial intelligence or AI. Have you got involved in this?
Speaker 2: I wonder? The Prime Ministers visit the Seattle headquarters of Amazon,
Speaker 2: where he announced the tech giant is pledging to lift
Speaker 2: its total investment in Australia to twenty billion. I wonder
Speaker 2: what will power the data centers that Amazon intends to
Speaker 2: have here. Someone made the obvious point earlier in a
Speaker 2: text isn't funny? Look how when there's a war going
Speaker 2: on they seemingly target oil and gas storage. You never
Speaker 2: hear them talk about air raids over solar panels hashtag.
Speaker 2: You know the rest. The extra money will fund the
Speaker 2: expansion of its data centers in Sydney and Melbourne and
Speaker 2: underwrite two new solar farms in Victoria one in Queensland.
Speaker 2: They help generate the huge amounts of energy required because
Speaker 2: even when the sun doesn't shine, I'll hang on. And
Speaker 2: there was a story in the Nine Papers today saying
Speaker 2: the number of students caught cheating in HSC assessments in
Speaker 2: New South Wales has doubled over the past five years. Doubled.
Speaker 2: Data from the state's Education Standards Authority shows more than
Speaker 2: one thousand malepractice offenses recorded last year. Major reason kids
Speaker 2: using AI. We have AI here at two GVN for BC.
Speaker 2: I think what we use is called Gemini, Google's Gemini.
Speaker 2: It does make work a little easier and there's plenty
Speaker 2: of fun stuff you can do with AI, although I've
Speaker 2: never done that. Nelson, you wrote this, what fun stuff
Speaker 2: have you done with AI?
Speaker 13: Oh?
Speaker 2: Really? AI Tiedeman to wear a boob tube to the gym.
Speaker 2: Oh asking silly questions? Nice save. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you use AI, if you've had an experience, I imagine
Speaker 2: given its the beginning of the whole thing. It's just
Speaker 2: all very basic stuff that old make Google might have
Speaker 2: done in the old days, remember when Google was a
Speaker 2: thing back in the day. You type in best robot vacuum,
Speaker 2: I have one of them, hopeless. I'm sure there are
Speaker 2: good ones, and it gives you a list. The first
Speaker 2: doesn't are sponsored. They give you the same recommendation. Ah,
Speaker 2: it's a good one. Then you finally get down to
Speaker 2: the one that is probably good. Anyway, if you're an
Speaker 2: AI user, keep in touch. In fact, ask your AI
Speaker 2: thing to send me something. On three one eight seven
Speaker 2: three we mentioned yesterday it spent some time with Craig
Speaker 2: Bennett talking about Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys. So
Speaker 2: many wonderful songs. I don't know if you have a favorite.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that I did until I started to
Speaker 2: listen to all their songs again just a few days ago,
Speaker 2: and I came up with this. This is God only knows.
Speaker 2: That's the Beach Boys. God only knows now. Hans Zimmer,
Speaker 2: who was responsible for some great music of movie tracks,
Speaker 2: he considers that a perfect song. And if that's not
Speaker 2: good enough, Paul McCartney considers that song to be the
Speaker 2: greatest song ever written. It's a big rap, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Kerry. I'm glad you enjoyed that as well.
Speaker 2: Good I Luke I went to the doctor, says Linda.
Speaker 2: The other day. She's using AI to take her notes
Speaker 2: during consultation. Okay, Ben says, I thought Artificial Intelligence was
Speaker 2: a song by John Kayle. I see it? Thank you, Ben,
Speaker 2: I nearly said it one three, one eight seven three
Speaker 2: get a Stewart.
Speaker 15: Oh good, here's it going?
Speaker 2: Yeah good mate?
Speaker 16: How are you?
Speaker 13: Yeah?
Speaker 23: Good?
Speaker 2: Good good.
Speaker 13: I just wanted to talk to a bit.
Speaker 24: I've been using AI since probably for about a couple
Speaker 24: of years now, and so I'm a podiotist. I run
Speaker 24: a business for myself and I use AI quite heavily.
Speaker 24: And from what you said, you're saying it's you know,
Speaker 24: you can sort of use it here and there for
Speaker 24: some of the basic stuff, but some of the things
Speaker 24: that you can actually do with it, it is it
Speaker 24: is just so elaborate. So I've got to do things
Speaker 24: like the NDIS reports and things like that the clients,
Speaker 24: and you can actually go in to if you've got
Speaker 24: the premium subscription, you can go in and set up
Speaker 24: what they call like a GPT.
Speaker 3: And AI is.
Speaker 20: Incredibly good at knowing basically more than you do, and
Speaker 20: so it knows all the correct jargon to use that
Speaker 20: kind of thing, and so you set it up in
Speaker 20: the back end with the right prompts and the right
Speaker 20: everything in the back end, and basically I can go
Speaker 20: in and write and report and it basically will prompt
Speaker 20: me what information it needs. I feed at all the
Speaker 20: correct information and it can.
Speaker 24: Write a very good report, very consistent among different types
Speaker 24: of reports, and follow a very specific pattern. And this
Speaker 24: is something that I use to help write my reports.
Speaker 24: And it's more consistent, more thorough and.
Speaker 2: How much time does it save you?
Speaker 24: Oh, look, doing a report like that if I was
Speaker 24: to do it myself. Now, admittedly I'm not very good
Speaker 24: at basically at writing right, so it never happening. So
Speaker 24: for me to do something like that it might take
Speaker 24: me about two hours to write a pretty decent report.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 24: To use chat GPT, it took me a while to
Speaker 24: set up correctly, but once it's set up, I can
Speaker 24: do a report in about ten to fifteen minutes.
Speaker 13: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The part I was making stud was that I
Speaker 2: think people have not completely certainly not embraced it as
Speaker 2: much as you have. So for the majority of us
Speaker 2: who aren't writing these detailed reports, it's here's four pages,
Speaker 2: please make it two paragraphs. And I've tried that at work.
Speaker 2: I just think and I'm hopeless or I'm reluctant to
Speaker 2: cut too much stuff out. So when I get four
Speaker 2: pages into two paragraphs, there's too much missing. So I've
Speaker 2: just got to refine the way I use it. I
Speaker 2: think most people would be at the stage where they
Speaker 2: might give that a go, But to think that it
Speaker 2: can end up where you're using it is extraordinary. If
Speaker 2: you can turn two hours into ten minutes, then that
Speaker 2: means that you can probably help more people, and that
Speaker 2: makes you more productive. That's got to be a great thing.
Speaker 13: Oh.
Speaker 24: Look absolutely, and I mean look, it goes further than that.
Speaker 24: So I use a practice management system, and if you
Speaker 24: understand what an API is. So most of your software
Speaker 24: that you use, they have an API which back ends
Speaker 24: into your practice management system. And I actually use TOPT
Speaker 24: with no coding knowledge to make custom programs that heavily
Speaker 24: cuts down my administrative work. So I basically can back
Speaker 24: into the program it has as a like a what's
Speaker 24: a coding script is called Python, so it's just the language,
Speaker 24: and it's got a total webi front end, so it's
Speaker 24: like logging onto any web page and it looks great.
Speaker 24: And you can make these things that totally interact with
Speaker 24: the software that you use, pull out all the information
Speaker 24: that you need to manipulate all the data that you need.
Speaker 20: And something like that.
Speaker 24: One particular bit of software that I needed and it
Speaker 24: was more database management. But if ilder to do it manually,
Speaker 24: it takes six or seven hours, and that can do
Speaker 24: it in about five minutes.
Speaker 2: Wow, Well that's that's huge. That's huge, mate. I've got
Speaker 2: to go, but you I'm glad you rang and told
Speaker 2: me all that. That's remarkable. Nice to eat from Stewart,
Speaker 2: have a great day. On the other hand, Paul says Luke,
Speaker 2: I asked AI or Gemini for last night's a lot
Speaker 2: I number I got none. AI stuff you well, they
Speaker 2: last there poor but yeah, fair enough. It's eleven twenty nine.
Speaker 2: Some amendments made to the Family Law Act this week.
Speaker 2: They'll apply it to former couples who are about to
Speaker 2: commence or are at the start of divorce proceedings. Under
Speaker 2: the new law, judges will now play a role in
Speaker 2: deciding who keeps the family pet. The corps will assess
Speaker 2: factors around who actually cared for the pet, including who
Speaker 2: walked it, fed it, and took it to the vet.
Speaker 2: Means you can't just say the dog's mind because he
Speaker 2: paid the adoption fee or whatever. There's been a suite
Speaker 2: of other changes made as well, including new rules around
Speaker 2: property division, family violence, financial transparency. So what does this mean?
Speaker 2: Let's find out more. The practice director at Bruin, Abrahams
Speaker 2: and Barricat Family Lawyers, Katie barricatte joins me live on
Speaker 2: the line. Katie, thank you so much of your time,
Speaker 2: no problems, Luke, good to be here. Thank you. I
Speaker 2: don't imagine this is all about pets, but we probably
Speaker 2: need to start. Their pets will no longer be recognized
Speaker 2: merely as property, but as companion animals. Is that correct?
Speaker 11: That's correct. Yeah, you know, previously animals were just treated
Speaker 11: as if they were the same as a as a
Speaker 11: bank account or a piece of furniture. Now there's been
Speaker 11: this change, you mean that pets are really recognized to
Speaker 11: the important role they now playing in families. What it
Speaker 11: will mean is that a court, a family court can
Speaker 11: make orders for one party or another to have the
Speaker 11: care of that pet moving cars.
Speaker 2: Is is that something that's been long called for? I mean,
Speaker 2: you see this first star by don't so from you
Speaker 2: from more in form view. Is it something that comes
Speaker 2: up along?
Speaker 11: Look what comes It comes up pretty often and I'd
Speaker 11: say it's coming up, you know, more and more. I
Speaker 11: think post COVID, I think, you know, rising in pets
Speaker 11: in our in our communities is yeah, court, that's come
Speaker 11: up more and more.
Speaker 5: And I think that.
Speaker 11: We do see circumstances where pets really ship. Custody of
Speaker 11: pets is shared, and they might move with with kids
Speaker 11: between two households. That's not something that the court can
Speaker 11: make an order about. Now they simply can consider, you know,
Speaker 11: which is the better home for that pet to live with?
Speaker 20: Moving forward?
Speaker 2: Goodness me, tell to me about the changes regarding property
Speaker 2: division outside of the pet obviously, are there are there
Speaker 2: wider changes.
Speaker 25: Yeah, there are.
Speaker 11: Wider changes and they really they are quite significant in
Speaker 11: terms of particularly in relation to family violence. So what
Speaker 11: what the Parliament has really recognized now, I guess is
Speaker 11: the impact of family the economic impact of family violence.
Speaker 11: So when couples are looking at and when they might
Speaker 11: consult a lawyer like me as to what, you know,
Speaker 11: their property settlement should be, it's now mandatory that there's
Speaker 11: got to be a consideration of if there has been
Speaker 11: family violence and the economic impact of that on both
Speaker 11: party's ability to make contributions during their marriage and also
Speaker 11: moving forward how it impacts them.
Speaker 2: What about not paying child support? I think I read
Speaker 2: somewhere that might also count in all of this.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, it will, and certainly there is you know,
Speaker 11: that's a really significant problem that we find in family
Speaker 11: law all the time. So you know, the family violence
Speaker 11: now is seen to be you know, economic abuse, so
Speaker 11: you know, restricting access to one party's you know, access
Speaker 11: to income bank accounts.
Speaker 25: Also their ability to work, their ability.
Speaker 11: To you know, take promotions as you know, throughout their relationship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just general advice if I might on divorce, when
Speaker 2: should couples consult lawyers after separating. Is that is that
Speaker 2: when it's agreed that there should be a divorce, or
Speaker 2: prior to that, I imagine is better safer.
Speaker 11: Look for a lot of people, a lot of clients,
Speaker 11: I see, they might come in and have just one
Speaker 11: initial discussion with a lawyer very early on, and then
Speaker 11: you know, we can provide them with the information they
Speaker 11: need to then go and negotiate with their spouse in
Speaker 11: a very amicable way. I'd say the sooner the better,
Speaker 11: get that advice. Understand the Family Law Act, Understand you
Speaker 11: know your rights, and you know, for most people you'll
Speaker 11: then only need a lawyer to help you document an agreement.
Speaker 11: You know, something like only two percent of separating couples
Speaker 11: in Australia actually end up anywhere near a courtroom, so
Speaker 11: you know your best chance of avoiding court is probably
Speaker 11: getting the advice to need quickly.
Speaker 2: That's remarkable you're telling me, Just tell me that two
Speaker 2: percent figure.
Speaker 11: Again, only about two percent of separating couple end up
Speaker 11: within the in the family court. So the vast majority
Speaker 11: of people can manage to work it out, you know,
Speaker 11: with themselves or with lawyers assisting or a mediate but obviously,
Speaker 11: the family court and the cases that end up there
Speaker 11: are the ones that get a lot of press. They're
Speaker 11: the ones that take up, you know, a lot of
Speaker 11: a lawyer's time, but most people don't.
Speaker 14: Need to be there.
Speaker 2: And Katie, your listen wants me to ask you, at
Speaker 2: what point does a de facto relationship become involved in
Speaker 2: these matters?
Speaker 11: That's that's that's a tricky one. So well, these these
Speaker 11: these changes apply to the facto and married couples, so
Speaker 11: no difference there. So you know, if you're a victim
Speaker 11: of family violence in a de facto relationship, all these
Speaker 11: amendments are going to apply to you. The new changes
Speaker 11: around pets also apply.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the practice director at Bruin Abraham's and Barrickette Family Lawyers.
Speaker 2: By the way, they're online at ba B Law BAB
Speaker 2: Law dot com dot au bab b A b bab
Speaker 2: Law dot com dot au. Katie, thank you so much
Speaker 2: for your time and your expertise. Appreciate it very much.
Speaker 2: Thank you, good bit chat, have a a terrific day
Speaker 2: twenty five to midday.
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Speaker 25: How are you, Emma, I'm well, Thank you, Luke, how
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Speaker 2: Good to chat again? We're talking about Canada. Why would
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Speaker 12: Do they not one bit.
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Speaker 25: Enjoyed day. Thank you so much for having me.
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Speaker 2: had their own embryo mistakenly transferred back to them rather
Speaker 2: than one belonging to their partner, and it followed an
Speaker 2: incident in April where Monash implanted a patient in Brisbane
Speaker 2: with another woman's embryo in twenty twenty three. Now, I
Speaker 2: don't know how you deal with all of this must
Speaker 2: be just well, it's obvious to say awful, but it
Speaker 2: doesn't end here. I think I told you yesterday about
Speaker 2: a story in the Courier Mail that the you know,
Speaker 2: the outcomes can last for generations or can be felt
Speaker 2: for generations. So I wonder what's going on here? Is
Speaker 2: this a flaw and the process of mont actual let's say,
Speaker 2: or given the incident or the numbers for procedures that
Speaker 2: are undertaking that you know, we do we accept that
Speaker 2: there's going to be something goes wrong. Is the industry right?
Speaker 2: Does government need to step in here and do more?
Speaker 2: I simply don't know, which is why I'm delighted to
Speaker 2: say Doctor E. V. Kendall a bioethicist from Swinburne University
Speaker 2: joins me on the line. Evie, thank you so much
Speaker 2: for your time. Hy So, let's have a chat about
Speaker 2: what prospective parents understand as their rights. Do you think
Speaker 2: there'll be many people that witnesses or hear about this
Speaker 2: that might just reconsider IVF.
Speaker 26: I think it's certainly the case that some people are
Speaker 26: rethinking their plans if they haven't started that IVF journey,
Speaker 26: and I think part of that is they want to
Speaker 26: see the outcome of some of these reviews and investigations
Speaker 26: to have more confidence that their genetic material will be
Speaker 26: secure and that their treatment plans.
Speaker 25: Will be followed.
Speaker 26: For those who are already on the journey, of course,
Speaker 26: it's very discomforting because they're already in a situation where
Speaker 26: they might have a pregnancy or in fact a child,
Speaker 26: and they might be wondering, is this my genetic child?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're really difficult questions. And for anyone who, as
Speaker 2: you point out and thank you Abe for saying that,
Speaker 2: that it's on this journey or has been on this journey,
Speaker 2: you know, we understand that this might be difficult to
Speaker 2: listen to, and I certainly take that on board. Does
Speaker 2: this open the way to a broader discussion about how
Speaker 2: we operate in this space, that there's enough checks and
Speaker 2: balances that there needs to be more, that government perhaps
Speaker 2: has been somewhat less a fair what's you take on
Speaker 2: all of that?
Speaker 26: Well, at present, a lot of the regulation is at
Speaker 26: the state level, so we've got inconsistent regulation and legislation
Speaker 26: regarding IVS provision state by state, and I think a
Speaker 26: lot of people would rather see a federal regulator so
Speaker 26: that we have consistency and we have confidence that the
Speaker 26: protocols are correct and that they are being followed consistently.
Speaker 26: And I think for a lot of people who have
Speaker 26: children who are conceived through IVS, they're now faced with
Speaker 26: that decision of do they go for a DNA test?
Speaker 26: How do they actually sort of move forward with the
Speaker 26: uncertainty that these kinds of media stories are bringing.
Speaker 6: Up to them.
Speaker 2: Should they not be DNA testing as a result of
Speaker 2: each procedure?
Speaker 26: Is that how we're doing things to be that could
Speaker 26: be overdoing things in general. But I think it's probably
Speaker 26: the case that quite a few couples and individuals who
Speaker 26: have used these services might be looking for that reassurance
Speaker 26: and some may feel that a DNA test is one
Speaker 26: method of achieving that, and keeping in mind that a
Speaker 26: lot of the chatter online has focused on it's not
Speaker 26: just genetics that makes a family, and of course that's true.
Speaker 26: Genetics is very important for a lot of people because
Speaker 26: they actually want to have a child that is sharing
Speaker 26: the heritage of say a mother and a father, or
Speaker 26: obviously in the same sex couple. Worth looking at people
Speaker 26: who want to actually both be involved in the creation
Speaker 26: of that child. They want the resemblance to family members,
Speaker 26: the sort of narrative of you have your grandmother's eyes.
Speaker 26: That has a lot of social weight to it. But
Speaker 26: medically it's also very important because genetics is related to
Speaker 26: your family history, predispositions, disease risk. So it's not just
Speaker 26: about kinship, and it's not just about resemblance. It is
Speaker 26: also about your medical history being accurate.
Speaker 2: Gosh, that is such a good point. Tell me about embryologists.
Speaker 2: If I've pronounced that correctly, I'm told they're currently they're
Speaker 2: not registered. Is that right?
Speaker 26: That is my understanding. Yes, So most people providing these
Speaker 26: kinds of services, like the health practitioners, doctors, et cetera,
Speaker 26: they are all registered that embryologists are not. There is
Speaker 26: a lot of talk about regarding whether we should change
Speaker 26: that situation at presence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and but again if you don't mammy asking an
Speaker 2: embryologist does in this whole process.
Speaker 26: What role do they play, Well, that's a laboratory position,
Speaker 26: so essentially they're going to be responsible for handling some
Speaker 26: of these things, grading embryos, et cetera. And one of
Speaker 26: the problems that we have with the IVF sector is
Speaker 26: it does straddle a sort of scientific process that people
Speaker 26: can pay for and a healthcare practice. So we are
Speaker 26: dealing with people's bodies their health biological systems, but what
Speaker 26: we're actually buying and selling is the process and the expertise.
Speaker 26: So we're definitely not purchasing embryos. We're definitely not purchasing children.
Speaker 26: But because pregnancy is not a disease and infertility, many
Speaker 26: argue is not a disease either, and IVS as a
Speaker 26: process does not actually cure infertility either. So you may
Speaker 26: go into the clinic infertile and there's a process that
Speaker 26: you can pay for that might circumvent your infertility such
Speaker 26: that you can be pregnant and ideally have a child
Speaker 26: that you want. But you leave that clinic just as
Speaker 26: infertile as as when you got in, So it's not
Speaker 26: curing that infertility. So it's not really a treatment. It
Speaker 26: is a service to circumvent something.
Speaker 2: Doctor E. V. Kendall from Swinburne University, thank you for
Speaker 2: helping me understand all of this. I appreciate your time.
Speaker 26: Thank you.
Speaker 2: All right, four minutes to midday Cross Australia. It's back
Speaker 2: to weekends. We'll look grant gooday, thank you so much
Speaker 2: for tuning in. We've got there Sunday afternoon on the
Speaker 2: fifteenth of June. I had a very confronting experience during
Speaker 2: the news. Yeah. Look, I don't often just stay in
Speaker 2: the room. I actually leave the room and just well,
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, I see what the other
Speaker 2: broadcasters here have been sent for free through the week,
Speaker 2: and if there's something I like, I just take it.
Speaker 2: It's an unwritten rule here. I've got all sorts of
Speaker 2: things over the years. I remember walking to Ben's office
Speaker 2: fine and walking out with a BMW that was not
Speaker 2: on the ear yet. Are we what right? Are damn it?
Speaker 2: We've got the winter wheel happening in two GB. I
Speaker 2: understand this week and people win stuff with the winter wheel?
Speaker 2: Is that right? People win stuff with the well they
Speaker 2: put it right next to my desk and guess what,
Speaker 2: no winter wheel on the weekend. That's they're provoking me,
Speaker 2: in fact, that they're suggesting that I might just lose it,
Speaker 2: in order that they could say, ah, you've lost it.
Speaker 2: See Lada Powell, I know what you're up to management
Speaker 2: here joke bloody winter will but on the weekend sort
Speaker 2: of a clown show? Is this place once again? We're
Speaker 2: not on? Are are?
Speaker 11: We?
Speaker 2: Just to be sure because this is going to get
Speaker 2: me into deep you know what I like to core.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say that. Plenty of news about today,
Speaker 2: we'll get them. We get into Jim Haynes at a
Speaker 2: moment or two. Do people send me interesting texts? Not
Speaker 2: all of them? Well, I mean they're not they're not
Speaker 2: nasty towards me, but they are to other things that
Speaker 2: perhaps here from time to time. Luke, we went on.
Speaker 2: This is one of the nice ones from Mary. Hello Mary.
Speaker 2: We went on the gold Leaf Rocky Mountaineer trip a
Speaker 2: few years back. We were desperate to see a bear.
Speaker 2: When we went to the lower deck to have lunch,
Speaker 2: we heard a lot of excitement upstairs. Well, don't really
Speaker 2: tell me about that. I hang on. When we returned,
Speaker 2: they excitedly told us they'd seen a bear. They'd taken
Speaker 2: a picture of the bear on a postcard, and no
Speaker 2: real bears scene for the whole trip. Ah, what a disappointment.
Speaker 2: I'd be liking to go there and see. Oh you
Speaker 2: bring the window wheel in. Let's give away some prizes. Management,
Speaker 2: hope you got your check book handy weekend. Blake's going
Speaker 2: to give away money. Just bring Greg Burns to say,
Speaker 2: can you turn the radio on? He's going to love this.
Speaker 2: So this is the thing, sorry, this is the two
Speaker 2: GB thing. Is it happening in Brisbane as well? We
Speaker 2: don't know see that it's called the winter Wheel. Actually
Speaker 2: tell Luke Davis, oh you've won number three. Do we
Speaker 2: get someone to ring and I just give them one
Speaker 2: of these prizes. There's a couple of grand programs here.
Speaker 2: I'll spin it up until I can give someone two
Speaker 2: and a half grand, fifteen hundred, that'll do, okay. The
Speaker 2: winner is l Grant phone number oh four. I think
Speaker 2: I'm silly, do you not that silly? Anyway? That starts tomorrow.
Speaker 2: It'll be great Ben, I'll give away a couple of grands.
Speaker 2: Then you'll hear a thing. Oh how good are you?
Speaker 23: Ben?
Speaker 2: I love you. It gave me two thousand yay, I
Speaker 2: love TWGV and the winter will not on the weekend.
Speaker 2: Now I'm almost giving a reason not to listen. Please
Speaker 2: don't do that. I want to do this a bit longer.
Speaker 2: I know I'm getting on. But if I discourage you
Speaker 2: from listening because management is too tight to give you
Speaker 2: stuff for nothing, it's all about ratings for me, call
Speaker 2: me shallow. I don't even jack, and you don't have
Speaker 2: to anyway. That's it starts tomorrow, Winter will Let's give
Speaker 2: away some more money here. A lucky listener is seven
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty bucks. All right, El Grant phone number
Speaker 2: zero four. I think I'm silly now, Jim Haynes in
Speaker 2: a moment seems now I'm going to jump from that
Speaker 2: whatever that was, to something serious, which we've done enough
Speaker 2: serious stuff we have, haven't we? Now, if you've been
Speaker 2: in a movie, you've been to a movie theater, if
Speaker 2: you've had pictures of you or your house and a
Speaker 2: movie or anything to do with Australian movies. One three,
Speaker 2: one eight seven three. Jim Haynes is next.
Speaker 17: I'm Australia. I rode with Clancy, I flew with Smithy,
Speaker 17: I sailed with Cook, I trecked with Kidman, explored with Morson,
Speaker 17: I held Kakoda, I held to Brook, gamers Ned Kelly
Speaker 17: and Janda Morrel.
Speaker 2: I am the sound of what did you redo?
Speaker 17: I am Australia. I'm silver stars on a flag that's
Speaker 17: true blue.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But Sunday Avo, it's Jim Haynes's time. We've been
Speaker 2: talking about movies, it seems for quite some time. That's because, ah, well,
Speaker 2: we get carried away with people that want to ring
Speaker 2: and share their experiences and we love that. And we
Speaker 2: continue our chat on Australia going to the flicks because
Speaker 2: it's true. As I say, good afternoon, Jim, it's true.
Speaker 2: Isn't it to say that we are pioneers in this space?
Speaker 17: We certainly were and still are a fantastic history of
Speaker 17: Australia in movies, but we also consumed the movies more
Speaker 17: than anybody else outside of the USA. We were great
Speaker 17: moviegoers and as you say, there were lots of movies
Speaker 17: made here and we're just looking for people with the
Speaker 17: experience of being an extra. I've got a friend who
Speaker 17: does a lot of extra work, and our friend Sindon
Speaker 17: too is another one who does a lot of extra work.
Speaker 17: And they were telling me that, you know, in the
Speaker 17: movie Australia, there's a ship pulls out from the key
Speaker 17: and there's this long shot of all the people you know,
Speaker 17: standing waving them goodbye. And this particular friend of mine, Nick,
Speaker 17: he said he was in it, I think four different
Speaker 17: times in the same scene. He just had a gou
Speaker 17: and put a different uniform on and he was a sailor.
Speaker 17: Oh wow, he was a sailor and a soldier than
Speaker 17: an air force and it was all in that same scene.
Speaker 17: If you've you know, it's a world we don't know
Speaker 17: about if we've never done it, the world of the extras.
Speaker 13: What's it like?
Speaker 2: What about playing an inanimate object like in number ninety
Speaker 2: six being well, let's call it an ottoman. Yes, that
Speaker 2: wouldn't be easy. No, no, it wouldn't. Thanks for support there.
Speaker 17: I'm not sure where you go.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of glad now those that know where I
Speaker 2: was going. Thank you for move Did you right on?
Speaker 17: Did you have to stand still with?
Speaker 2: Sorry? How are you giving away your package.
Speaker 17: Yes, yes, we've got Luke's Wheel.
Speaker 2: No we din't.
Speaker 17: We don't need a wheel, We don't need this show,
Speaker 17: just just ring in and with the answers too that
Speaker 17: weren't answered yesterday last week. And one was the science
Speaker 17: fiction movie that was made in Brisbane. The some of
Speaker 17: the locations were University of Technology, Queensland University, the William
Speaker 17: Jolly Bridge and a factory in Pink and Bar, good
Speaker 17: old pink and Bar and Churchy which, for those who
Speaker 17: don't live in Brisbane is the Church of England Grammar School,
Speaker 17: very famous school, right, And a movie was made using
Speaker 17: all those locations. It was about a sort of superhero.
Speaker 17: If you know the answer, you can win a package.
Speaker 17: That's the perhaps on Center Metal and a couple of CDs.
Speaker 17: And the other one was made on the Gold Carts
Speaker 17: and it's I love this. I love this whole series
Speaker 17: as books and movies. But it begins this movie. Some
Speaker 17: kids are looking at a painting of a ship on
Speaker 17: a wall. Suddenly it comes alive. The sea comes into
Speaker 17: the room and they end up in the fabled land
Speaker 17: on the Australian Gold Coast. So there and the one
Speaker 17: for particularly for Sidney.
Speaker 2: This is or for anybody.
Speaker 17: Alvin Purple was the highest grossing Australian movie ever when
Speaker 17: it came out in nineteen seventy three. It didn't get
Speaker 17: very good reviews, but everyone went to see it.
Speaker 2: Was it rude? It was very rude.
Speaker 17: It was rude.
Speaker 2: That's why it was rude. And people were in the
Speaker 2: nude And.
Speaker 17: We talked about the movie. But what record we broke
Speaker 17: the record of another movie from nineteen sixty six. What
Speaker 17: was the movie that held the record for an Australian
Speaker 17: made movie and the amount of money it had made
Speaker 17: and that record was broken by Album Purple. If you
Speaker 17: know the name of the other movie, let us know.
Speaker 17: And if you've been an extra in any of those
Speaker 17: movies or any any others at all, just to give
Speaker 17: us a call, give us your experience.
Speaker 2: Nice. One one three, one eight seven three is the number?
Speaker 2: One three, one eight seven three. Please. That'll leave it
Speaker 2: to the end, because then we get a million callse
Speaker 2: we go, oh buddy, how we'll go? No time, which
Speaker 2: is my fault. But one three, one eight seven three
Speaker 2: hop on cinemas. Let's talk about some of those you
Speaker 2: and I discussed at one point. I think the Winter Garden,
Speaker 2: which is at Rose Bay. I'm sure that's where I
Speaker 2: went often as as a kid, certainly. And then there
Speaker 2: was village of Double Bay. I'm going back away now.
Speaker 2: And then finally there was something at Bondai Junction when
Speaker 2: Wondai Junction got done up and David Jones was in
Speaker 2: the same building. I forget what the name of that
Speaker 2: theater was or what that complex world might have been
Speaker 2: Greater Union, but I mean something else hot I don't know.
Speaker 17: But the wonderful old standalone cinemas in the suburbs, you
Speaker 17: know they Randwick, what is it at Randwick? The Ritz
Speaker 17: the Ritz yep and that's it. That and the Sydney
Speaker 17: Film Festival uses the Rits. It's they have viewings there.
Speaker 17: It's a great little spot. It's at a place called
Speaker 17: the Spot in Randwick. But there's another one which fascinates me.
Speaker 17: And we started to talk about this, but then, as
Speaker 17: you said, we had so many calls. There were three
Speaker 17: cinemas in Mascot. In the suburb of Mascot there was
Speaker 17: a Botany Empire which was beautiful old Art Deco and
Speaker 17: they knocked it down, of course. But in Mascot there
Speaker 17: were three one still exists and it's in Gardener's Road,
Speaker 17: and I have no idea what it looks like inside,
Speaker 17: but it looks very derelict outside. It's called the Marina
Speaker 17: and it's still there. And if anyone knows what the
Speaker 17: story is and if it's what they do with it
Speaker 17: or what they're going to do, I don't know. But
Speaker 17: it's still there. And there was another one on the
Speaker 17: corner and that's where the Tenpin Bowling is now, and
Speaker 17: that was called the Rosebury. Now that was interesting. But
Speaker 17: then down further towards Mascot Shops was the Ascot.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 17: They were all owned by the same family, and what
Speaker 17: they used to do was they'd show the same movie
Speaker 17: at the Ascot and the Marina, and they would switch
Speaker 17: the reels, so, you know, they'd say, they'd have Abbot
Speaker 17: and Costello on first, and at the other cinema they'd
Speaker 17: have you know, Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis on first,
Speaker 17: and then they'd switch them over on the same night.
Speaker 17: Because people were going to the cinema so often. These
Speaker 17: weren't really big cinemas like the Winter Garden held two.
Speaker 2: Thousand, two thousand. I just can't remember being that bad.
Speaker 2: It was an amazing Why is it famous, the Windergarten.
Speaker 17: It's famous for being the second, but the first in
Speaker 17: Sydney cinema to have sound showed the first sound it had.
Speaker 17: I've got the name here of the system that they used.
Speaker 17: It was of course something spectrographic. Here it is the
Speaker 17: first public screening of a talkie in Sydney was the
Speaker 17: Windgarden and it used the ray coophone sound system right,
Speaker 17: And it was the tenth of June nineteen twenty nine,
Speaker 17: and they didn't have the Australian record because the week
Speaker 17: before a cinema in rock Hampton had shown it, so
Speaker 17: but certainly the first in Sydney. Now, the weird thing
Speaker 17: about these theaters in Mascot, just very quick, was that
Speaker 17: the Rosebery was sort of a reserve, the Rosebery Theater
Speaker 17: which was in between the Marina and the Ascot and
Speaker 17: they were all owned by the same same family and
Speaker 17: if the other two filled up on Saturday night, then
Speaker 17: they would open the Rosebury and show the same film
Speaker 17: there as well. Three cinemas in one suburb if anyone
Speaker 17: has memories of that. And the building is still there
Speaker 17: but it's now part of the Bowling Alley.
Speaker 2: Right, Glenn's on the line from Brisbane.
Speaker 17: Hello Glenn, Yeah, Hi Louk, how are you're going?
Speaker 2: Good mate? Thank you for calling. You know the movie
Speaker 2: do you?
Speaker 16: I think so? It was Fastscape, wasn't it?
Speaker 6: And then it went broke here and then they took
Speaker 6: it to America and.
Speaker 16: It took off or vice versa.
Speaker 17: Oh okay, No, that wasn't the one I was thinking of.
Speaker 17: But did they make that around those locations?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Yeah, they made it in Brisbane.
Speaker 17: Okay, great, well look we'll get your name. Yeah, and
Speaker 17: I've got lots of packages, so that's great info. But
Speaker 17: it's not the one. The one I'm looking for is
Speaker 17: sort of a comic superhero.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, well all right, Next up, let's go
Speaker 2: to Kathy in Sydney.
Speaker 25: Hi, Kathy, Hello, Now I've got it wrong. I thought
Speaker 25: you were after the best gracing movie. I was going
Speaker 25: to say, waiting, right, that's certainly not a comedy.
Speaker 17: No, it wasn't a comedy, and I want you people
Speaker 17: to get give us. Somebody else said Wake in Friday.
Speaker 17: A very scary movie and interesting for me because I
Speaker 17: was living out there at the time where it was filmed.
Speaker 17: It was actually involved in the in the kangaroo hunt
Speaker 17: scene because I was an honorary ranger on Kinchig National
Speaker 17: Park at the time. And yeah, and the funny thing
Speaker 17: about Wake in Fright was they had a you know,
Speaker 17: a red carpet opening of the movie in Broken Hill
Speaker 17: and it was let's say, it wasn't particularly kind to
Speaker 17: country people. It was all about the horrible things that
Speaker 17: happened in the bush and people sort of didn't quite
Speaker 17: get it.
Speaker 2: But anyway, thank you for calling Kathy pat High. Are
Speaker 2: you really well? What can you tell me?
Speaker 19: Class? Well, when I was a girl, I lived at
Speaker 19: used to be Blara now it'swand Night Junction, and we
Speaker 19: were in Grafton Street, which was parallel to Oxford Street.
Speaker 19: At Oxford Street when I was young, had a pictures
Speaker 19: here to call the Regal, which became the Metro. Opposite
Speaker 19: that was the Coronet, and back and along Brontie Road
Speaker 19: on the way that BRONDI.
Speaker 15: Was the start, isn't that?
Speaker 19: And then there was the one that's still there. I
Speaker 19: think it's still there, upper wallar in Oxford Street. I
Speaker 19: don't know if that's still there enough.
Speaker 17: It's certain it's a sign of how movie mad we were.
Speaker 17: You know that there were all those cinemas in that
Speaker 17: in that small area as well as the Winter Garden,
Speaker 17: which you know was huge. So yeah, we were great moviegoers.
Speaker 17: And if you had memories of cinemas that are still
Speaker 17: there or that aren't still there, just yeah, tell us
Speaker 17: your favorites.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Pat very much indeed for calling Lourie.
Speaker 15: Hey, yeah, was by Johnny the movie call They're a
Speaker 15: Weird Mob.
Speaker 17: That certainly was. And it had an Italian movie star
Speaker 17: who came out to Walter Kiari Walter. Yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 17: was a big star in Italy. He came out here.
Speaker 17: Made the movie as you said, right rightly said. It
Speaker 17: was by John Ogrady and a very popular book at
Speaker 17: the time they made the movie. It was the biggest
Speaker 17: grossing Australian made movie until Alvin Purple.
Speaker 2: There you are, Laurie, don't hang up, made travel safely.
Speaker 2: I can hear the road noise there and we'll make
Speaker 2: sure you get one of the packagers. Thanks a lot
Speaker 2: for calling the show. To all our other callers, don't
Speaker 2: go anywhere. We'll be back to talk to you in
Speaker 2: just a moment. Twenty eight to one o'clock. We're here
Speaker 2: with Jim Haynes. As we are on a Sunday afternoon
Speaker 2: talking movies and people who are in them and where
Speaker 2: you went to see them. Let me say good aid
Speaker 2: to Ronda. First off, Hi, Ronda, can you help us
Speaker 2: with an answer?
Speaker 15: Hi?
Speaker 26: I believe the Inspector Gadget two movie was made in
Speaker 26: Brisbane with French Stewart.
Speaker 17: You are spot on. It certainly was at all those
Speaker 17: locations I mentioned, and it had just a whole swag
Speaker 17: of Aussie actors and you know who were in work
Speaker 17: continually from movie making. So yeah, Inspector Gadget.
Speaker 2: Well done, Well done, Ronda, don't hang up, the package
Speaker 2: is coming your way. Get a Keith.
Speaker 6: Yes, good morning, Sorry, good afternoons, mate, Interesting things about
Speaker 6: animals and movies. I'm sitting in my land room with
Speaker 6: my little Mini's just now So Rennie Kirby, who happened
Speaker 6: to be in the Great Gatsby movie.
Speaker 2: No, hang on, yeh, how did that happen?
Speaker 19: Well?
Speaker 6: I decided I needed to have a companion after my
Speaker 6: life passed, and my kids said, oh, what sort of
Speaker 6: dog did you get?
Speaker 12: I said, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I mean it's just now. Is probably because we've had
Speaker 6: big dogs. So I thought this little fellow. And the
Speaker 6: lady who had introduced me to them sent me an
Speaker 6: email saying, oh, look, I have a friend with an
Speaker 6: animal trainer and she's looking for a puppy dog to
Speaker 6: go into to be used in. She didn't say movie,
Speaker 6: she said in something. I can't remember the exact wording. Anyway,
Speaker 6: I said, oh, that would be nice. So about a
Speaker 6: week later I got a phone call from the trainer saying, look,
Speaker 6: can't come and have a look. So she did, and
Speaker 6: we went out in the backyard and he's running bearing
Speaker 6: him mind this puppy dogs what eight weeks old, And
Speaker 6: she loved him, and she took photographs and footage and
Speaker 6: she said, I'd like to use him, but it's up
Speaker 6: to my boss. Okay, that's fine, whatever. Nothing more thought
Speaker 6: about it. And then a week later I got a
Speaker 6: phone call from her saying, we want to use him,
Speaker 6: And she said, and my boss has made the decision,
Speaker 6: and her boss's basilim and the doors.
Speaker 17: Yeah, and they did. They made a lot of that.
Speaker 17: That Jeane The Great Gatsby has been filmed about half
Speaker 17: a dozen times, but that Baz Luhrmann. They did a
Speaker 17: lot of the shooting out here in Australia. So your
Speaker 17: dog is a film Remy.
Speaker 2: Hey, Keith, do you allow Remy a wardrobe allowance or
Speaker 2: anything like that?
Speaker 6: Can I tell you that he was paid? And then
Speaker 6: when I say he and my understanding is that extras
Speaker 6: get paid a certain allowance every day. He was paid
Speaker 6: two hundred and fifty dollars a day. They had him
Speaker 6: for four They had him for four days. He costs
Speaker 6: me one thousand dollars back in twenty eleven, so he
Speaker 6: pays himself. Now I currently have done for the last
Speaker 6: eleven years, lived in the retirement village. When I first
Speaker 6: moved here, i'd be walking around within the village because
Speaker 6: as you get to know the lie of the land,
Speaker 6: and everybody say hello, Remy, how are you going? And
Speaker 6: I understanding game on the blank that's got the leaving
Speaker 6: his hands. My name's Keith, Remy.
Speaker 2: Wow, mate, that is such a that is such a
Speaker 2: wonderful story. And it turns out you become Remy's handbag
Speaker 2: almost yes. Wow.
Speaker 17: And they also have food vans when they're on location shooting,
Speaker 17: so I assume they got special food in is that right?
Speaker 6: I applied the food and the trainer I think actually
Speaker 6: had to have two pups because of their age. Because
Speaker 6: they were so young they couldn't well, he'd be picked
Speaker 6: up at sort of six thirty in the morning and
Speaker 6: wouldn't be returned home until maybe ten eleven o'clock at night.
Speaker 6: So they had the two pups. So the second one
Speaker 6: they got, they had to groom him to look like
Speaker 6: Remy oh that is and on the shooting schedule down
Speaker 6: the bone of the shooting the schedule that said, min
Speaker 6: it's just now is a Remy Kirby understudy.
Speaker 12: Charlie.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that is so good.
Speaker 17: You know, when when kids are in plays, Thanks Keith,
Speaker 17: A great story. Yeah, when kids are in plays, you know,
Speaker 17: they have to have two children, and they have to
Speaker 17: have one then the other because they can't miss too
Speaker 17: much school, all that sort of stuff. So every child
Speaker 17: who's in a live play, there are two of them
Speaker 17: and they have to alternate. But I had no idea.
Speaker 17: They extended that the canines that they have to have
Speaker 17: two puppies in case one misses out on school or something.
Speaker 2: Yes, and just in case my dog existing at home. Henry,
Speaker 2: there's an opportunity for you and I. You want those
Speaker 2: nice things up by you want more of them, my friend, Hello,
Speaker 2: stop jumping up and barking, Tim good Et.
Speaker 15: Well, Now, when the music was being filmed in Robertson,
Speaker 15: they you weren't allowed to go and take your car
Speaker 15: out of the Robertson area. There was enough party space
Speaker 15: for extra so they have four hundred extras to do
Speaker 15: the do the final scenes with the big over there.
Speaker 15: And when we arrived on the buses from Barrel, we
Speaker 15: all got off and the first thing they did at
Speaker 15: about six or seven in the morning was to feed
Speaker 15: his breakfast.
Speaker 17: And what do we have, Baker, Well, Robertson, they could
Speaker 17: have given you plenty of potatoes, a great potato growing
Speaker 17: area down there. But yeah, pretty good for bacon as well.
Speaker 2: Bacon in the making of Babe and did so wrong.
Speaker 2: It's so right.
Speaker 17: Babe actually forced the supermarkets almost out of business because
Speaker 17: people stopped eating poor did those of the movie with
Speaker 17: ridiculous It was a great movie, the first one. The
Speaker 17: second one was one of the worst movies I've ever seen.
Speaker 17: Babe in the City.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Dennis Gooday, Dennis today a good mate?
Speaker 22: You yeah fine, thank good on you over rother Maruvera
Speaker 22: and the Page actually, and they had a film studio
Speaker 22: out there. I think it's called trans of Film Studios.
Speaker 17: Uh, yeah, no, the trans the Pack was up north,
Speaker 17: but that was a film studio. They made a lot
Speaker 17: of movies there, The Wake and so on.
Speaker 22: Yeah, we got the nord that they were going to
Speaker 22: film the scene for Rica Stockade that night. So we
Speaker 22: all trudged out after dinner and went up there. And
Speaker 22: it was a scene where Chips Revenue played the part
Speaker 22: of Peter Lawler was in a pit and they had
Speaker 22: went and got him out after dark because he was
Speaker 22: in hiding after the army. He had defeated the people
Speaker 22: there and so were all the Chips popped down with
Speaker 22: his bead on hop down in the hole and camera's
Speaker 22: role and they dragged him out. It was all over
Speaker 22: in five minutes.
Speaker 2: Oh that's great, Thank you Dennis very much. Indeed, Hi, Martin,
Speaker 2: tell us your story mate.
Speaker 23: Yeah, I just wanted to say I grew up and
Speaker 23: could he in the fifteen sixties and we used to
Speaker 23: go to a theater called the Barrys Barri's Boomerang Theater.
Speaker 23: It was in an Art Deco style, very similar to
Speaker 23: the Ritz and it was pulled down the late fifties
Speaker 23: by the council to build a motel. But I remember
Speaker 23: going there and right near the surf club. It is
Speaker 23: down the south end and apparently budding Charles bud ting
Speaker 23: Will grew up in the area and he used to
Speaker 23: go there and he was a kid, and that's how
Speaker 23: he got it. He got his idea to get into movie.
Speaker 23: W Yeah, So all that's the history of it on
Speaker 23: the on the history side of the movie. But it's
Speaker 23: got a picture of the of the it's right near
Speaker 23: there at the park there down a sudden then, but
Speaker 23: there was another two theaters. I used to catch a
Speaker 23: three one forward at Bondi Junction and there was one
Speaker 23: just boy, you come into Bondai Junction, there was the movie.
Speaker 23: There was a cinema right on the left there. I
Speaker 23: SI got a couple of good shows there and there
Speaker 23: was another good one down on Enzach Parade at Kensington,
Speaker 23: which I think the Greeklorian Club took over.
Speaker 2: Jim remember them, do you?
Speaker 17: I do remember the old the Castle Risian Club was
Speaker 17: there and that cinema had been there many years before.
Speaker 17: I think that's all gone now and prays a concrete
Speaker 17: canyon now a lot of.
Speaker 2: That stuff with the.
Speaker 17: Trams of the rail and just apartment buildings all the
Speaker 17: way down. Now it's it's changed so much. But the
Speaker 17: coronet and the Star were also BONDI way.
Speaker 2: This one from Kristin who says I helped whire the
Speaker 2: quadrophonic sound at the Ritz Randwick when it was run
Speaker 2: by the Headley's many many years ago. Thank you, Christian.
Speaker 2: It's also sent me a link. I'll have a quick
Speaker 2: look at this, Jim, because there might be some gold
Speaker 2: in them there hills. And there's also five Ways picture
Speaker 2: Palace two two two Glenmore Road, Sydney. Well that be Pado,
Speaker 2: wouldn't it Paddington after the five Streets intersectionion It sits
Speaker 2: upon five Ways. Cinema started in nineteen fifteen, was rebuilt
Speaker 2: in twenty nine, run by the Hickey family Tom Hickey
Speaker 2: Randatives manager Cole Hickey's brother the projectionist, and also he
Speaker 2: had done much of the electrical wiring. Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2: They weren't fascinating stuff. I loved how about this?
Speaker 17: A lot of those early in the silent days, they
Speaker 17: were family businesses, and you know dad would be the
Speaker 17: projectionist and the daughters would be the usherettes and Mum
Speaker 17: would play the piano because there was never a silent movie.
Speaker 17: Every movie had a music score and it sometimes played
Speaker 17: by an orchestra of forty people, if not then banged
Speaker 17: out by somebody in the old piano.
Speaker 2: My mate's Indian Runner ducks were used in the film
Speaker 2: Babe Babe.
Speaker 17: Yeah, I remember the ducks and the mice in Babe
Speaker 17: do you know?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 17: Now, I wonder if you've got two hundred and fifty
Speaker 17: bucks per duck per day. Goodness me, you'd love to
Speaker 17: write her keep him away from the food van.
Speaker 2: Anyway, home about the ducks who were on two hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty bucks? Now, where do we go next? Hello? John?
Speaker 16: Oh, afternoon, gentlemen, afternoon. I'd just like to talk about
Speaker 16: the old Roxy Theater in Parramatta yep in the fifties.
Speaker 16: What was unique about it? Before the movie started. An
Speaker 16: organist used to come up like a spiral out of
Speaker 16: the stage and play them before the actual movie. And
Speaker 16: his name was Wilba Kentwell and he lived in Castle
Speaker 16: Hill and he's got a street named after him up there.
Speaker 2: Wow geez.
Speaker 17: Yeah, there were the cremorn orpheum I think had a
Speaker 17: Riser and some of the inner city theaters did too.
Speaker 17: Is it The band or the orchestra would get on
Speaker 17: the platform, you know, when the movie was coming near
Speaker 17: to its end, and when interboo came, the platform would
Speaker 17: rise up and they would be playing as they came
Speaker 17: up onto the stage. Wonderful stuff.
Speaker 2: Good on you, Thank you John very much. Indeed, Joseph
Speaker 2: our final caller today today Joseph gooday, goody good, really good.
Speaker 2: You know a bit about the Rich Theater in Randwick,
Speaker 2: do you?
Speaker 16: That's right.
Speaker 9: I was involved in restore restoration on Parpenter and Joiner
Speaker 9: and I restored some of the ceilings which was part Deco,
Speaker 9: and I was on the stage there about I think
Speaker 9: it was six meters up in the air right well,
Speaker 9: and the ones and make a new panels to restore
Speaker 9: it as original.
Speaker 2: Wow. When was that? When did that happen?
Speaker 9: Joseph ninety It was ninety seven.
Speaker 17: It's not that long ago. And a lot of those
Speaker 17: beautiful plaster ceilings that they don't have the molds anymore.
Speaker 17: You've got to go up and make one and then
Speaker 17: take it to the factory and recreate it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, Jason, what was it like working in that space.
Speaker 2: I guess you're doing. It's not just you, but there's
Speaker 2: people everywhere. Are they working to restore the place?
Speaker 12: What was it like?
Speaker 2: It was?
Speaker 9: It was quite a few people there. And I remember
Speaker 9: making one section of the ceiling which was finished with
Speaker 9: the I was making the panels on the ground and
Speaker 9: then we hoist them up and fix them. I was
Speaker 9: fixing them into position, and it was made out of
Speaker 9: kraftwood because the original ones were sort of like soundproofing
Speaker 9: material which was very sort of porous, you know, and
Speaker 9: with the age and water had got into certain parts
Speaker 9: of it and they've built collapsed. But I remember putting
Speaker 9: some new panels up and then the electricians were enup
Speaker 9: to do some wiring, and one of the electricians almost
Speaker 9: fell through one of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this idea of worker safety is it
Speaker 2: has to be said it a recent it's.
Speaker 17: A really modern concept.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joseph, thanks so much for getting in touch. One
Speaker 2: of our listeners, Debra, wants to put a shout out
Speaker 2: for the Roseville Cinema, a great place to see movies.
Speaker 2: I still remember the piano and organ being played there.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 17: I can't remember the ones in the city that had
Speaker 17: the lift but I do know a very quick story
Speaker 17: about a lovely old man who I knew for a
Speaker 17: long time, Jack, And he was a trombonist and he
Speaker 17: used to do several cinemas and he was running late
Speaker 17: and he didn't have time to put on his fancy
Speaker 17: satin pants properly, and he jumped on. They said, quick, quick,
Speaker 17: and he jumped on. The thing was going up, and
Speaker 17: so he's on there, he's in his seat, but he
Speaker 17: hasn't done his pants up yet. And he was a
Speaker 17: big man. And as they were coming up, he said,
Speaker 17: what's the first number? And I've forgotten what I was
Speaker 17: say that, you know, moon, moonlight serenade or something, And
Speaker 17: he had to do a trombone solo, and he realized
Speaker 17: that if he didn't, he didn't have time to do
Speaker 17: his pants up, and he was going to have to
Speaker 17: stand up to do the trombone solo right at some point.
Speaker 17: I don't know how it turned out.
Speaker 2: The trombone you have to move the contragulated, so.
Speaker 17: It's a two hand instrument, so he couldn't hold on
Speaker 17: to it. He couldn't hold onto his jacks, and so
Speaker 17: he was risking his pants falling down on what.
Speaker 2: Group of instruments. Does the trombone belong.
Speaker 17: To it's a brass, yes, of course, but the or
Speaker 17: They had huge orchestras in those cinemas in the in
Speaker 17: the city, and quite often.
Speaker 2: The organ keep his pants around his brass.
Speaker 3: Well, well that's trying.
Speaker 17: It was either the brass or he's something else.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm going away the week, half the next for
Speaker 2: a few weeks. Are we going to do this again
Speaker 2: while we're done?
Speaker 17: Do you know what? We haven't even talked about drive ins?
Speaker 17: Oh drive because someone made the point. Oh yes, somebody
Speaker 17: remember the name? He actually conceived it a driving Well,
Speaker 17: it's one of our on air personalities.
Speaker 2: I know in a former Great Test State of Origin
Speaker 2: and Premiership winning rugular league player initials MG. You know
Speaker 2: im he was conceived of Blacktown driving.
Speaker 17: Well, there was Chalora bass Hill, the matrival star, which
Speaker 17: I have memories of, you know, back in the days
Speaker 17: when that sort of thing happened. And of course the
Speaker 17: whole drive in history is interesting because the family could
Speaker 17: go out and eat and be entertained without having to
Speaker 17: get babysitters. It was a phenomenon.
Speaker 2: Did they check the boot did?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 17: Trying to smuggle people you couldn't do you know? Oh well,
Speaker 17: I think lots of people did.
Speaker 2: And is it a g app to think that people
Speaker 2: drove off with the speaker in the window.
Speaker 17: I did it?
Speaker 19: You?
Speaker 13: Why?
Speaker 2: Actually? How dare you?
Speaker 17: It was so easy to do. And in certain cinemas,
Speaker 17: in the one in Inverarrell it was so cold.
Speaker 2: Hang on, there was a driving and you're joking? Where
Speaker 2: was that?
Speaker 16: There was.
Speaker 2: Seventies seventies seven, nineteen seventies. I was even born then.
Speaker 17: Not only did you get the speaker, but you've got
Speaker 17: a demistera and a heater. Oh my god, well so
Speaker 17: you had two things hanging off your window. All right,
Speaker 17: it wasn't great driving store. We're going to do drivings
Speaker 17: next week. Good to see Jim. You two, that's Kim Haynes. Hey,
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Speaker 16: No, I didn't play here.
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Speaker 2: Did you say yesterday on air you've only got ten
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Speaker 16: What there's no tickets sold?
Speaker 2: I didn't know it gives Oh, well.
Speaker 14: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for everything you do for this place, whether
Speaker 2: it's making noises on the air with your mouth today
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Speaker 12: Bye bye,