WEBVTT - Weekends with Luke Grant - 15th June 0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:07.159 Whoa across Australia. 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:10.360 This is Weekends with Luke Grant. 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:12.320 But you gotta keep your. 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:14.440 Head up then you can. 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:15.440 Let your hand up. 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:17.680 You gotta keep your. 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:20.320 Head up and she collect. 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:20.720 Your hand up. 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:22.439 Hollow. 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:27.360 It's hard, No, it's hard to remember sometimes. But you 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:35.200 gotta keep your head up then you colet your hand downy. 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:36.400 Good morning, Welcome to Weekends with Luke Grant. Great to 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:38.680 be with you on two GBAN Sydney, four b Scene 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:41.960 Brisbane and via the two gb app GADATA listeners all 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:46.479 around Australia. On Sunday, June fourteenth, fifty years ago, On 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:50.320 this day, fifty years ago, our men's Australian cricket team 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:55.000 achieved their highest Test innings total ever eight for seven 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:59.240 hundred and fifty eight, eight for seven fifty eight. We're 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:02.160 playing the West Indies in the Fifth Test in the 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:05.400 Windys Our team heads there for the First Test which 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:08.759 begins on June twenty sixth in Barbados. I don't imagine 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:12.000 an eight for seven fifty eight is around the corner 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:15.800 because disappointingly, I have to report that Australia was hammered 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.040 by five wickets by South Africa in the World Test 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:23.240 Championship at Lord's Overnight. Bowling is not our problem. Batting is. 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:26.240 So I expect we'll see some new names ahead of 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.480 the ashes later this year here at home. But I 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:31.440 have to say well done South Africa. I want us 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.319 to win everything. Probably you do as well, but the 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:38.120 glorious uncertainty of sport rules again we were favorite. It 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:41.440 should be noted it's still June fourteenth in the US. 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:46.160 Today Donald Trump celebrates his seventy ninth birthday. The President 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:50.440 prepared to make a show of American military mite with 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:53.240 a parade of tanks and missiles and aircraft through the 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:56.720 heart of the nation's capital. The celebration of the two 0:01:56.840 --> 0:02:00.560 hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the United States Army has 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:04.320 already transformed into a test of wills and competing imagery, 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:09.520 with demonstrators around the US to crying the Trumpster's expansion 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:13.239 of executive power. As we go to where Central Washington 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:16.720 is effectively locked down, divided by a wall of tall, 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:20.799 black crowd control fences. They're designed to assure that the parade, 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:24.680 the first of its kind since American troops returned from 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:28.079 the Golf War back in ninety one, is an uninterrupted 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:33.200 demonstration of history and American power. Spectators have come and 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:36.760 gone all days. Thunderstorms are in the forecast, but Trump 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:40.160 has declared the parade would go on rain or shine. 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:43.880 Watching it a little early in the morning, and the commentary. 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:48.040 The accompanying commentary is almost like a game of footy, 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:56.320 with this pumped up commentator speaking so glowingly of every 0:02:56.360 --> 0:03:01.919 it seemed, every tank, every troop, everything amazing. Of course, 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:05.720 no celebration of history takes place in a political vacuum. 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:08.400 We know that protest is in large cities and small 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:13.000 towns from Seattle to Key West, demonstrated against how Trump 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.799 is making use of the modern force. His decisions over 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.400 the past week to federalize the National Guard and call 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:22.400 the Marines into the streets of la in support of 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:27.600 these immigration roundups have rekindled a debate about whether he's 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:31.200 abusing the powers of the commander in chief. That's happening 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:34.840 right now, as it turns out. Our National political editor, 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:38.160 Michael Packy, is in Seattle ahead of the G seven 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:40.880 later this week, where the Prime Minister will be in attendance. 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:44.839 Now he's been speaking today the PM and already he's 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:49.240 confirmed that he'll meet with Donald Trump Wednesday morning our time. 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:52.840 He's a PM. We do have a meeting scheduled. 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:59.800 Obviously, there are issues that the US President is dealing 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:04.160 with at the moment, but I expect that we will 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:08.120 be able to have a constructive engagement as well, and 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:12.080 I look forward to building on the very constructive phone 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:15.560 conversations that we've had on the three occasions that we've 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:17.240 had the opportunity to talk. 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:20.520 As I said, Michael Pecki's in Seattle, and I think 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.840 Michael Free's time, MAYE have you seeing the protests where 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:24.560 you are? 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:28.520 Yeah, look, look, I have seen the protests though where 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:30.760 I am, and some of them are still going in 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:34.960 various parts of the city. And it's just I suppose 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:37.640 you just you're amazed by the amount of people that 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:40.960 have turned out. And I know that in all parts 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:43.760 of the United States, you've got these protests that are 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:47.719 taking place, but there are thousands upon thousands upon thousands 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:51.599 of people that have aligned these various streets of Seattle 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:54.520 are just marching down and they've been doing that. 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:56.600 I suppose it's probably. 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:59.359 Would have been about ten o'clock this morning local time, 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:03.080 been in another area of Seattle, we've been in a 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:08.120 place called the Amazon Steers where essentially the Prime Minister 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:10.520 was with the boss of Amazon, where they've made an 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:16.039 announcement about Amazon spending another seven billion dollars in Australia 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:19.279 to build data centers. So it's been this juxta decision 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:22.320 where you've got protests happening at one end of the city. 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:24.400 Then we've been at the other end of the city 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:29.400 where this announcement has been made, and also where the 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:32.719 Prime Minister took questions at a press conference and he 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:36.159 did confirm that he will be meeting with Donald Trump 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:39.120 early next week in Canada on the sidelines of that 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:44.000 G seven, with trade and of course defense issues very 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:47.520 much the issues on the agenda for those talks. 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:51.480 Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what format that meeting takes. 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:54.680 I imagine the last thing the Prime Minister wants to 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:58.120 see is to have him sitting next to Donald Trump 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:00.880 and cameras everywhere. We know how that's played down for 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:01.880 many world leaders. 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.520 Yeah, look, I think you're right, it will be interesting 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.080 how this does take place and from what we've just 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:10.760 seen what we're being told at the moment, and obviously 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:14.240 we're going to be leaving for Canada tomorrow for the 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:16.839 G seven. But what we're being told from where we're 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:21.200 staying at the hotel and where the actual G seven 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:24.479 is taking place, it's quite a distance so will be 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:27.080 interesting to see where the meeting takes place. Does it 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:30.080 take place at the location of the G seven or 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.320 does it take place at one of the hotels. If 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:34.240 it does take place at the one of the hotels, 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.760 how much media will be allowed in And as you 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:40.400 quite rightly say, when Donald Trump needs world leaders, he 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:43.880 likes having the full media pack in there and almost 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:47.960 going doing and throwing with that media pack as he 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:51.880 takes their questions. There's no pretense of just having a 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:56.520 picture opportunity. Donald Trump seems to always be prepared to 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:59.080 take a couple of questions that are thrown at him. 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:02.840 But it was interesting today that Anthony Ibnez he did 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:06.320 make it clear that he while he discussed the tariff issue, 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:07.839 and you will tell him that you know, he doesn't 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:10.920 believe the tariffs should be imposed on Australia or any 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.000 other country for that matter. When it comes to the 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:15.600 issue of aucust he is going to say that he 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:19.960 thinks Australia's defense spending is essentially on track, and that 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:23.280 Australia should decide how much it spends on its military. 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:26.840 But he's also going to add that the government is 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:31.000 also helping America as well in Australia, that we provide 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:36.440 bases for US submarines in Western Australia, for US warships 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:40.120 in places like Sydney's Guarden, Ireland occasionally, and also we 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:44.560 host US marines through training exercises. So he is going 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:49.840 to defend Australia's defense spend while you've got the White 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:53.240 House urging Australia to spend more money on defense. 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:56.040 Yeah. Well, I mean he's got to do his best 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:59.280 there because he's got a budget issue here as well. 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:03.400 But I think the fact remains and Trump will, I guess, 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:06.200 play this card that if someone that didn't like has 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:09.840 turned up, it's circularly key with a couple of slingshots, 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.240 we'll be calling for America for some help. But anyway, 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:14.400 we'll see what happens with that. Was there any mention 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:19.000 from the PM of the Iran Israel conflict, and in 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:23.480 particular the Australians who said through the media yesterday and 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:27.000 I think again today on weekend today nova Peris made 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:28.680 the point that it's quite frightening and they are a 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.320 bit a bit mythed that they can't get out of 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:31.880 the joint. 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:33.000 Yeah. 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.400 Look, the only thing that he said about that is 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:38.560 that that dead all the Department of Foreign Affairs is 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:41.600 trying to work with the people that are there to 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:45.160 try and get them out, but that it's a difficult situation. 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.080 And obviously it's a war zone and it is a 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:51.480 difficult situation to try and get them out. But I 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:56.280 think that all that all that is possible is being done. 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.080 But I think that when it comes to some of 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:01.640 these issues, he doesn't like and like this. I will 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:03.920 say this is probably of any leader when they're asked 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:06.839 about these situations, they do tend to keep their power 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.800 to drive because things are obviously happening behind the scenes 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:15.080 to try and get people out of these situations. So 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:19.559 he didn't expand too much. But I think that work 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.040 is happening to try and see what can be done 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:26.320 to airlift some you know, as many Australians as possible 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:29.240 out of there. But it is I suppose the issue 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:32.640 is is that Australians who wanted to come home over 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:35.959 a number of months have been told to get out 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:39.839 and some have chosen to stay. Now there's obviously this 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:43.360 situation that's arisen and now the government has to try 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.839 and see what it can do to get them out. 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:50.600 So does when does Team Albo leave Seattle and head 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:52.800 head to the G seven. Mate? What's ahead of you 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:53.440 guys today? 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:56.600 So what happens is we're in Seattle for the rest 0:09:56.640 --> 0:10:01.280 of today. It's already four o'clock here in Seattle, so 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:05.160 I know that in a little while the Prime Minister 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.920 will be making a speech to a bunch of business leaders. 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:11.559 They're mainly technology leaders where he'll be speaking and we 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:14.480 will be talking about this announcement that's been made by 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:19.440 Amazon today. He'll say that it shows that you've got 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:22.760 these big American companies that are willing to invest in 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:26.320 Australia and obviously trying to encourage other business leaders to 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:29.280 do the same and invest in our country. So it's 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:32.160 about four o'clock now, he's got this speech in about 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.960 an hour's time, and then that's pretty much for the 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:38.720 schedule for today. Tomorrow morning we'll leave early for the 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:43.320 G seven in Calgary or Alberta in Canada, and we're 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:44.959 there for the rest of the day. So we're there 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:47.080 for the rest of Sunday, Monday and Tuesday, and it'll 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:53.360 be Wednesday, Wednesday Australian time where this meeting with Donald 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:56.040 Trump is meant to happen. Now, the Prime Minister says 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:59.880 it's scheduled. Obviously anything can happen, and he obviously is 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:04.360 cited to confirm it today after Donald Trump himself confirmed 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:07.559 that he would be attending the G seven. Because it 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:12.800 was some speculation that Donald Trump may not attend that 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:15.800 G seventh summit. But given that there's a whole bunch 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:19.080 of world leaders that are attending, and there are a 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:22.439 lot of pressing global issues to be discussed, you'd think 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.640 that Trump would want to be front and center of 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:27.720 those sorts of discussions that will take place. 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:31.080 Yes, you'd think so, or I made Thank you so 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:33.040 much for your Times day. Safe over there. We'll talk 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:35.719 to you again soon. No problems, Get on your work, 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:40.079 Good on your Michael Michael Packy, national political editor in Seattle. 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:43.760 Now on with the show here on Sunday the fifteenth. 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:46.400 I might have inadvertently said fourteenth. I certainly said it's 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:48.920 still the fourteenth in the US, because it is, but 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:51.679 it's fifteenth. If I didn't say the right thing, I 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:55.319 do apologize. Official weather in Sydney a party, cloudy day 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:57.800 with a medium channel for showers in the afternoon and tonight. 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:01.840 Tops in the city eighteen Penritheen Paramatta eighteen bon dying 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:06.000 along the coast eighteen. It's an eighteen on in Brisbane, 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:08.880 a sunny day tops in the city twenty two, twenty 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:12.360 two at the airport, Ipswich twenty three, Gold Coast twenty 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:16.080 three and on the sunny coast today twenty two degrees. 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:18.360 Now let's get into it with the latest from the 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:21.720 Middle East and the sky of a. Tehran was engulfed 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:24.320 in smoke and flames this morning our time, after the 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:29.320 city's main gas depot was struck during Israel's latest wave 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:33.680 of attacks on Iran. The two countries launched renewed waves 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:37.199 of attacks on each other late Saturday, as leaders of 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:42.000 both countries vowed to intensify their assault despite international pleas 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:46.240 for de escalation. Now, Iran's oil ministry said the gas 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:51.480 depot the Shahran Fuel Depot, was hit and set on fire, 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:55.160 and official with the ministry said the depots at the facility, 0:12:55.200 --> 0:13:00.000 which has eleven storage tanks were exploding one after another 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:04.200 other and threatened to significantly damage residential neighborhoods in the 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:08.640 area now. A resident whose high rise apartments directly across 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:11.760 from the depot said the force of the explosions felt 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:15.520 like an earthquake. Multiple witnesses said the fire was spreading 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:20.480 and lighting up the mountains around Tehran. Israeli air defense 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:26.199 systems late yesterday were intercepting Iranian ballistic missiles as explosions 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:30.280 lit up the sky over Jerusalem. Images on Israeli television 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:32.880 indicated that many of the missiles fired in the latest 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:36.160 mirage from Iran were also aimed for the first time 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:40.400 at the northern city of Haifa. The Israeli military announced 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.200 on social media that its air force was attacking military 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:48.240 targets in Iran as Iranian state news media also confirmed 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.840 that Tehran had launched its own new round of missile 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:55.320 attacks on Israel. The daz Old conflict is the most 0:13:55.400 --> 0:14:01.520 intense fighting in decades between the two heavily armed We'll 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:05.240 keep an eye on the developments around. Australians who are there. 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:08.760 I know someone who's caught up in this sent her 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:12.280 a text yesterday morning just making sure she was okay, 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.680 and it was kind of late last night that she 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:19.400 came back to me with emojis to assure me that 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:23.080 she was, but hoping that they'd get out of there 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:27.320 very very soon. We'll see where all that ends up, 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:29.680 and I'll keep an eye for you as we mak 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:32.880 our way through the show today. Now, just on these 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:38.479 assassinations in the US, a former appointee of Democratic Minnesota 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:43.040 Governor Tim Walls is being sought in connection with the 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:46.040 assassination of a state politician and the shooting of another. 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:52.640 According to police vance, Luther Bolt allegedly posed as a 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:55.920 police officer, but he shot Senator John Hoffman and his 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:59.840 wife in their home in Champlain, Minnesota, leaving them so 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:03.560 seriously injured. According to The New York Post, He then 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:07.680 allegedly moved to former Democratic House Speaker Melissa Hortman's house, 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:11.600 where he's believed to have killed her and her husband. 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:16.520 The suspected assailant was still at large, officials said, with 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:21.880 a massive manhunt underway, extraordinary. Now on the show today, 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:24.200 a deep dive into the state of Australia's defense and 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:26.600 the future of Orcas I look forward to the future 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:29.560 of the conflicts around the world with the founder and 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:34.520 Director of Strategic Analysis Australia, Michael Shubridge. I'll speak to 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:39.520 Michael shortly. Today is World Elder Abuse Day and as 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:43.800 a Makley yesterday, and this is not controversial, we need 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:47.120 to be doing so much more to protect the elderly 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:50.480 in our community. The Council of the Aging Australia shares 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:52.680 our views and wants the Federal government to get a 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:55.400 bit more active on this. These numbers I told you 0:15:55.400 --> 0:16:01.280 about yesterday are just so upsetting. One in sea older 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:08.720 Australians experience elder abuse, one in six. Disturbingly, over sixty 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:13.640 percent don't seek help because they're scared of potential retaliation 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:18.680 or they're scared of not being believed. I'll speak with 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:21.640 the Acting Chief Executive of Code of the Council of 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:25.360 the Aging, Corey Erlam, on that issue on the show 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:29.640 Today on Sundays with Spotlight. An ordinary assi who's achieved 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:34.880 extraordinary things, and today's guest fittingly describes himself as quote 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:38.520 an ordinary man who's done some good things unquote, but 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:40.520 a quick look at the achievements of this book will 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:43.920 show you his story is far from ordinary. His name 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:47.040 is Nick Caldas. Pretty much done at all in the 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:50.280 world of policing and counter terrorism. Nick was a twenty 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:52.880 one year old immigrant lad from Egypt when he joined 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:56.680 the New South Wales Police Force. Today he's Assistant Commander 0:16:56.720 --> 0:17:00.360 in Chief of the Abu Dhabi Police Force and on 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.160 the way he's been a Royal Commissioner, a homicide detective 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:07.720 and let a un force. Nick Caldas AO, don't miss 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.719 our chat in the next hour. The IVF industry has 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:14.480 been put under the microscope after Monash IVF became embroiled 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:18.600 in its second embryo bungle now. Earlier this week, Monash 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:22.240 IVF revealed that a patient in Melbourne had their own 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:26.400 embryo mistakenly transferred back to them rather than one belonging 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:30.240 to their partner. This follows an incident in April where 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:33.760 Monash implanted a patient in Brisbane with another woman's embryo 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:37.080 in twenty twenty three and gave birth to a baby 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.800 who had no genetic links to her later that year. 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:44.120 You know, words don't exist to describe what these patients 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:48.200 must have felt. It left many of us thinking, how 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:52.720 does this happen? Do these patterns and incidents represent a 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:57.160 four in the process of monash all over the joint. 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.159 Was it just bad luck? I don't know. I want 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:04.600 to find out. Does the industry need industry wide changes 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:06.560 to stop it from happening again? Well, I think you'd 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:10.280 have to say yes. I'll talk to a bioethicist from 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:15.040 Swinburne University, doctor Ev Kendall, and get her views. Stephen 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:17.600 Finnick will join me to talk technology in our second hour. 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:21.040 He'll walk us through the latest Apple news. They've unveiled 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:24.960 a new design for their software platforms and new features 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:28.800 for iPhone and Apple Watch. Stephen with all the details soon. 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:31.600 Jim Haynes in our last hour, here to reminisce about 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:34.359 the old movies of Australia. Now we started to do 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:37.640 this last week. If you've been an extra, if your 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:40.919 home's been caught up in a famous scene, or you 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:43.040 know someone that has, we want to hear from you. 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:47.240 It's so much fun. We'll do that after midday today again, 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:49.760 plenty of time to talk to you. We'll keep across 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:52.359 all the breaking news in our quiz, all that ahead 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:54.760 on the show today. So that's what we've got coming 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:57.480 up over the next three and a half fish hours. 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:00.960 It's ten degrees in Sydney right now it feels like six. 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:05.200 They reckon twelve in Brisbane it feels like eleven. Can 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:07.800 you tell the difference? I don't think so. This is 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:10.480 Weekends with Luke Grant on two GB and four BC, 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:23.560 and let's see what's happening on the roads with the 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:31.400 brilliant Catherine Hines now on Weekends the Sunday Sweep. 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:33.200 Looking at the stories. 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:34.919 Of the week. Yeah wow, what a week on planet 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:38.120 Earth Day. Iran and Israel appear to be on the 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:41.960 brink of a really large scale conflict, if that isn't 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:45.040 already playing out. The Prime Minister set to meet with 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:47.600 Donald Trump at the G seven in Canada this week. 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:51.960 I imagine that Donald Trump will say, hey, we're happy 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:54.000 to help, but any chance you could do your bit 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:57.800 in terms of defense and of course, the Aucus, the 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:01.560 alliance that underpins the future of our national security is 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:05.080 now under review. What does that mean? So who better 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:07.640 to help us understand all of this than the founder 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:12.160 and Director of Strategic Analysis Australia, Michael shue Bridge, who 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:16.520 joins me on the line. Morning Michael, Morning, Luke, very well, 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:19.159 thank you so much for your time. Always enjoy our 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:22.879 chats and I appreciate your expertise in all of these areas. 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:27.000 I guess we start with Israel and Iran, a new 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:32.160 wave of attacks or seen the talks about nuclear canceled 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:37.760 quite obviously. First off, was Israel justified? Were they write 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:40.679 in starting something? They're living in the fear of Iran 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:43.720 doing something out of control with nuclear they be on 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:46.480 edge all the time, obviously if they're not on edge 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:48.560 about a whole range of other things. 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:54.800 Yeah, Well, the Iranian nuclear program is decades old, so 0:20:55.760 --> 0:21:00.159 Israel has always wanted it to be ended, and the 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:03.639 negotiations that the Americans were having whether RAM were clearly 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:04.439 not going to do that. 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:07.880 And this same week. 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:12.560 That Israel began these attacks, the International Atomic Energy Agency 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:16.800 formally declared Arama's in breach of all its reporting obligations 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:21.000 and had enough nuclear material to make nine weapons. So 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:26.000 I think the Israeli calculation was there was not going 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:29.719 to be a better time to try and stop Iran, 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:34.119 and that's why they've started. But it's still an incredibly 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:34.960 hard problem. 0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:39.359 Yeah. Now the US, as I understand it, providing some 0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:45.040 assistance to Israel, protecting them from the missiles and the like, 0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:50.640 And we've seen Israel get some success, certainly around the 0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:55.320 nuclear plant, and I think today we're being told that 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:58.800 they've had a crack at some of their other fossil 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:02.159 fuel stores. And I guess this goes on for a 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:04.520 matter of days or weeks or months. I guess I'm 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:07.200 trying to ask you, Michael, if you put the crystal 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:09.160 ball into this, what you end up with, is there 0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:12.440 a time where Israel can claim victory? Is a regime 0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:15.720 change in a run, how does its play out? What's 0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:17.040 the endgame for both countries? 0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:20.280 Well, that is pretty hard to see. I would say 0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:22.679 you're right that this is not a matter of a 0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:24.439 war that's going to be over in a few days. 0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:27.840 It's going to go on at least for weeks. The 0:22:28.080 --> 0:22:31.520 prospect of regime change during the middle of a war, 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:35.920 I think is very very low in history. When countries 0:22:35.960 --> 0:22:39.400 are at war, usually people sort of rally around the flag, 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:41.680 and I think we'll probably see some of that. Even 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:45.159 though the Iranian regime is deeply unpopular. It's different when 0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:49.280 you're being attacked. The Americans are trying not to get 0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:53.760 dragged into this beyond helping defend Israel, but from the 0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:56.560 Iranian point of view, if you're helping defend Israel, you're 0:22:56.600 --> 0:22:59.280 part of the problem, so that the prospects of an 0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:03.199 escalation are there, bringing the Americans in more. And the 0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:06.640 bit that still doesn't make sense to me is what's 0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:10.880 the Israeli plans to deal with the buried underground nuclear 0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:17.280 facilities that Iran has Because places like fourdoh An underground 0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:21.480 site and the tarns An underground and Richmond site. You 0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:24.359 can bomb the above ground bits as much as you like, 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:26.240 but you don't damage underground. 0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:33.200 So what countries nearby are likely to assist Iran? I 0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:37.280 guess where I'm headed now is how far will this expand? 0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:40.879 Is there an obvious I mean, apart from the US 0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:44.720 trying to help Israel defend itself, who else gets involved? 0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:50.360 Nobody? Because since the seventh of October Hamas terror attacks 0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:56.120 on Israel, Israel has dismantled the proxies, the armed proxies 0:23:56.160 --> 0:24:00.480 that Iran had built to threaten Israel for decades. Hamas 0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:05.119 and Hezbolla were its key weapons, and it had militias 0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:09.120 operating in Syria two that had Iranian missiles and rockets 0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:13.960 to specifically to attack Israel. That's all pretty much gone now. 0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:17.400 So the Iranians are by themselves and there's no way 0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:21.119 countries like Saudi Arabia or Katara or the United Arab 0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:23.880 Emirates want to pile in on a run side here, 0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:27.720 the friend that Iran does have turns out to be 0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:31.800 Vladimir Putin in Moscow, and that's because Putin has been 0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:37.200 supported by Iran with drones to fight in Ukraine. 0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:42.159 I want to get to Orcus, and I guess we 0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:47.680 start by the obvious. How serious is the review by 0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:51.159 the US into Orcus? Should we be sitting here at home, 0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:54.719 knowing how reliant we are on the US saying oh, 0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:56.120 we've got a serious problem here. 0:24:57.720 --> 0:24:59.879 It is a serious review. The fact it's meant to 0:24:59.880 --> 0:25:02.879 be only take thirty days means it's it's not a 0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:06.719 deep one. But the issues are pretty obvious and clear, 0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:09.000 and you've put your finger on one of them. Luke, 0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:12.640 it's very hard to say, Hey, we're one of your 0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:16.119 closest allies America, and we're so close on defense that 0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:19.000 we're spending two percent of GDP on defense while you're 0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:22.440 spending three and a half percent. But by the way, 0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:26.119 we would like nuclear submarines out of your own navy 0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:28.680 when you don't have enough of them and know we're 0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:31.320 still going to only be spending two point three percent 0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:33.680 in ten years. That is a pretty hard ask. 0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:38.560 Yeah, yeah, that beautifully put so at home because I 0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:42.880 want to how these plays out amongst Australian voters. If, 0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:45.880 of course, you could say, couldn't your Michael that we've 0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:47.560 I don't want to use the word bludging, but it 0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:50.880 seems like you know, we've we've we've ambled forward knowing 0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:54.760 that if things got really serious, America would come and 0:25:54.800 --> 0:25:58.719 give us assistance. But as Trump's made clear in his 0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:02.919 America First policies, if that's the right way to put it, 0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:05.159 you know, we'll give you a hand, but you've got 0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:08.119 to be have faired incing yourself. But does the average 0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:10.960 Astradion voted do you think are they persuaded by that? 0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:13.280 You know, we should be faired income, we shouldn't just 0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:14.200 rely on the US. 0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:19.160 Well, I think this is all got bound up in 0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:23.639 a whole lot of Australians dislike of Donald Trump and 0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:26.119 a whole lot of the things he's doing. And you know, 0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:28.480 you look at America with the riots going on, the 0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:33.280 big military beat protest saying no King and the kind 0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:37.520 of aggression towards America's traditional friends and partners. And you 0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:40.840 can sort of see why a bunch of Australians are saying, yeah, 0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:45.000 I love it when mister Albanezi talks tough and says 0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:47.800 he decides things and he's not going to be pushed 0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:51.879 around by this guy. But is it really a source 0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:56.400 of national pride to not do enough for our own 0:26:56.480 --> 0:27:00.720 security and say to the Americans, no, it's to spend 0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:04.320 two percent on defense and be even more dependent on you. 0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:07.040 So don't try to push me about this. To me, 0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:08.040 that doesn't make sense. 0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:12.840 No, that's excellent analysis. That's exactly right, because you're right 0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:14.280 to say that he got up to say, you know, 0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:17.440 we'll decide almost like John Howard talked when he talked 0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:21.160 about the boat paper, I will decide what we'll spend 0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:25.000 on defense. In other words, we'll do just a little 0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:27.080 bit here and you will come. And I mean, if 0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:30.280 you're an American looking on you be going, huh, that's 0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:33.440 not tough. That's absolutely silly. I get so much from 0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:37.200 your analysis and our conversations Michael, and I guess I'm 0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:40.240 stuck on a point that you raised before the break 0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:44.159 about Australia not doing enough from looking tough insaying that 0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:46.560 we're not doing enough. And I guess the question is 0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:51.520 how safe is how safe are we? I guess is 0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:53.920 where I want to get to here? Because people walk 0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:56.080 around thinking, you know, we'll just go and get a coffee, 0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:59.359 everything's great. We hear everything that bad happens happens. It 0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:03.080 seems over I guess many Australians think, you know, best 0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:05.200 country in the world was safe? Here are we? Is 0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:06.720 that niaive? Is that fair enough? 0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:07.920 Yeah? 0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:10.040 I think we are still the best country in the world. 0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:13.000 That's absolutely true. And we're lucky we live in a 0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:16.080 safe part of the world. But even our safe part 0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:19.200 of the world is more dangerous than I was. So 0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:24.320 if you read this government and the previous government's own documents, 0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:27.960 things like the National Defense Strategy, you will hear that 0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:32.720 China is building a massive military, building a large nuclear 0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:36.480 weapons stockpile, and it's not doing them for fun. It's 0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:41.520 already using it's a military aggressively against countries like Japan, 0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:47.560 the Philippines and Vietnam. And so the kind of you've 0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:50.200 got to burrow into those documents because you don't hear 0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:55.080 this from our political leaders. So the risks are real. 0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:58.320 And something you're reading them as well is that our 0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:03.360 geography no longer Texas as it did because of new weapons, 0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:06.760 and that's long range missiles, but it's also things like 0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:10.360 drones that can be used very creatively, as we've seen 0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:15.000 the Ukrainians and the Israelis do now. And China makes 0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:17.880 all of this stuff and supplies its military with all 0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:21.560 of it, and it does want to take Taiwan back, 0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:24.120 and it doesn't look like there's a peaceful option. 0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:28.640 No, is that something that might happen? Well? Is that 0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:32.280 a reality? Is that something we cannot dismiss? And is 0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:34.280 that far away from happening? I mean, you hear from 0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:39.400 time to time the suggestion that it's imminent. When will 0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:44.880 if it's inevitable, China try to retake back Taiwan, We'll 0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:45.760 take back Taiwan. 0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:49.280 Well, this is interesting. I think the Chinese government, the 0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:52.760 Communist Party, wants to tell the world it's inevitable. But 0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:55.200 the reason they have to keep saying that is they 0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:58.920 know that's not true. So far, they've been deterred from 0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:03.560 doing it, and they've been deterred by American and allied 0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:07.920 military power and doubts that she Jinking has about his 0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:13.880 own military, and both those things are still powerful. But 0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:17.320 the problem is America and its allies look a bit 0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:22.719 chaotic now and distracted. But the good news is China 0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:26.600 keeps purging senior people and it's military, which doesn't give 0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:30.800 them the Colgate Ring of confidence. You know, I think 0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:33.360 it's all about It's a bit like what we're saying 0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:38.120 about met Yahu and Iran. Will there be a better time? 0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:38.920 Is? 0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:40.800 I think the question in she's mind. 0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:45.920 Yeah, okay, fascinating. You talked about drones. Actually had a 0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:49.880 drone manufacturer, the boss of a company from Victoria, I think, 0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:53.680 on a few weeks ago, and they're doing great stuff. 0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:57.160 And you hear about, as you mentioned, drones in Ukraine 0:30:57.440 --> 0:31:01.000 and elsewhere, and I end up saying this, why does 0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:04.080 it seem like we're spending all that we have on 0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:07.920 submarines on the never never when we could, like other 0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:12.880 countries around the world, arm ourselves with drones. Drones are 0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:17.640 flying drones in the water and seemingly beyond on the pace. 0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:19.440 What am I missing there? 0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:24.400 Well, I think what you're missing is our government and 0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:29.320 our defense departments complete this interest in equipping our military 0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:32.840 with these things. They spend all their time talking about 0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:35.920 why the time's not right. You know, anything I do 0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:40.200 now might be obsolete. Look, you know it's not proven 0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:42.680 how they'll be used best, We've got to develop concepts. 0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:47.000 But the actual problem is it messes with their plan. 0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:51.440 The defense plan that the government has endorsed and seems 0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:55.080 perfectly happy with. Is what you talked about. It's spending 0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:59.400 hundreds of billions of dollars on triggates and submarines that 0:31:59.600 --> 0:32:02.880 do not thing to help out security for decades, and 0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:05.680 under investing in a whole bunch of stuff that Australian 0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:10.360 companies make and supply to other militaries. Right now, it 0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:14.280 is mystifying, it is. It's the only explanation I have 0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:19.040 is that the current leadership and the government and that 0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:22.320 the Defense Department don't believe their own words about the 0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:23.040 dangerous world. 0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:27.440 Whereas, Wow, Michael, thank you so much for your time. 0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:31.360 I appreciate it very much. Indeed, good on you. Good 0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:34.760 to talk with you, mate. Michael Schubridge, Founder and Director 0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:39.240 of Strategic Analysis Australia. See when you remove the politics 0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:43.160 from these discussions, and I know that's difficult to do. 0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:45.320 But when you do, when you talk about defense and 0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:48.040 you then you know, you get down deep into some 0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:51.000 of these issues. Like it is impressive, isn't it that 0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:54.960 we've got these nuclear powers and marines coming sometime from 0:32:55.040 --> 0:33:00.080 America our mate and the UK or other mate. And 0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:02.320 though they're going to cost you know, maybe half, it 0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:04.920 doesn't nds's you think, oh, well, that's got to be good. 0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:08.200 But the fact is that in the theaters of war 0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:11.120 right now around the world, drones and other things are 0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:14.640 a thing. Which is why I wanted to ask Michael, 0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:16.800 why aren't they think for us we make the damn 0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:18.800 things here? In fact, we make them here, we buy 0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:21.160 a few of them, but around the world they buy 0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:23.400 a heap of them. Well, what are we doing that's 0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:28.360 so smart? And that the point Michael makes, which I 0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:34.480 think is astonishing, is that they say the world's a 0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:36.880 dangerous place. And I mean, you look at the headlines 0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:40.640 today and of course do you think, yeah, well bloody oath, Well, 0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:45.479 if it's such a dangerous place, why aren't you arming 0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:49.959 our army Air Force? Why aren't you doing something now? 0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:53.520 Why do we have to wait a decade for a 0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:58.000 couple of subs? I'm no genius in this space. But 0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:00.320 I like to think I've got a bit of common 0:34:00.400 --> 0:34:02.240 sense and you look at what's in front of you, 0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:06.120 and I think you're entitled to go huh. It's eleven 0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:09.439 to ten, it's seven to ten, three one eight seven 0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:12.680 three is the open line number. I note. The New 0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:15.799 South Wales Nationals have voted to abandon their commitment to 0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:19.080 net zero emissions by twenty fifty, a move that will 0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:22.520 no doubt put pressure on the Libs. The News Corp 0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:26.359 publications say the motion was placed on the agenda by 0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:30.799 the Tweed State Electorate Council, with party members gathered at 0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:35.240 the state conference in COV's Harbor this weekend voting overwhelmingly 0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:40.200 in favor of dumping the commitment. One member said the 0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:45.959 motion passed with applause. Game on three one eight seven 0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:50.719 three just from Queensland, the forensic Crash Unit investigating a 0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:55.080 fatal single motorbike crash at Pierces Creek north of to Woomba. 0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:59.040 This is yesterday. As a result, twenty two year old 0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:03.320 male rider was declared to cease to the scene. Officers 0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:07.680 are investigating the circumstances of the crash and they're appealing 0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:11.799 for anyone with information to come forward Pierces Creek Road 0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:16.319 around ten to midday yesterday on the text line thank 0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:19.479 you for so many of these this morning, zero force 0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:22.759 in zero eight seven three eight seven three, Rob says Luke. 0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:25.080 It's always easier to kick the can down the road 0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:28.919 until the next election to avoid making hard decisions. Now, 0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:32.160 well that's such a good point, Rob. I mean, you 0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:35.840 want people to have a view, make a call, and 0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:37.920 then will decide in three years if it was a 0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:40.239 good call or a bad call. And you know what, 0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:44.640 as I say, and schomo ooh, don't mention Schoma scary. 0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:48.279 If you have a go, you get a go. I 0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:51.399 have a go, don't see back. Oh maybe I meet 0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:55.040 maybe I meet Donald Trump. Maybe I meet him, I 0:35:55.120 --> 0:36:00.040 mean knock his door down. Hey, Albo from Australia. A 0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:04.000 couple of questions, no dramas. And if he gives you 0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:07.319 the I don't know what Donald Trump will give you. 0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:11.360 Let's say the basle brush. Then how to go Australia. 0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:15.120 We love you. Then. Look. The problem with defense, this 0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:17.759 is from Brett and not using drones, is it's led 0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:20.640 by old warfare leaders who have not come to terms 0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:24.319 with modern warfare. The old thinking is big ships, big 0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:27.600 air force, big tanks, drones do not come into their 0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:31.680 old world plans or thinking. Thank you Brett very much. Indeed, 0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:35.080 good a Luke. Regarding the discussion you're having with Michael Schubridge, 0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:38.360 I think Israel has every right to defend itself. That's 0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:41.080 what they're doing, and they've been threatened by Iran and 0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:43.520 others for decades. Maybe some of these boffins at the 0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:46.960 UN who keep calling for Israel to de escalate might 0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:49.120 want to think about that. Good on you, seev. Hope 0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:51.160 you will, mate, Kerry, says Luke. When we have someone 0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:55.000 of the caliber and intelligence of Michael Schubridge, why do 0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:58.680 we have people like Richard Marles and elbow playing at 0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:02.560 defending our country? Very good question, Kerry. Now after the news, 0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:05.239 Stephen Fennick here to talk technology. We'll also get to 0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:08.880 our remarkablest guardian, Nick Calderson. I want to talk about 0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:10.280 world elder abuse. 0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:10.480 DA. 0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:13.920 We'll do that as well. Plenty of texts, thank you 0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:18.839 for them, zero forurseing zero eight seven three eight seven three, Luke, 0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:21.520 Donald Trump is a shining example of what happens where 0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:25.480 the can stops being kicked down the road Ross, thanks 0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:27.160 so much for getting in touch. The news is. 0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:43.520 Next across Australia. It's back to weekends with Luke Grant. 0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:50.319 Hello there, thank you for tuning in to weekends on 0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:54.200 two GBN for BC Hope Sunday is splendid where you 0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:57.359 are on this fifteenth day of June. One three one 0:37:57.400 --> 0:37:59.520 eight seven three is the open line number. Look, I 0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:02.880 didn't make mention of this, and I should have because 0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:05.920 I've been a fan of this golfer for a long time, 0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:10.960 even though he's perhaps not as dominant as he once was, 0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:15.120 if even he was ever dominant. But Adam Scott, the AUSSI, 0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:20.040 Adam Scott has shot a three under round round three. 0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:22.359 They call the third day and the moving day, don't they? 0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:26.160 I think they do. So he is three under at 0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:28.719 the US Open Golf. He's a shot off the lead 0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:33.480 which is shared by Spawn and Burns with Victor Hoveland 0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:37.600 two shots back fourth at one under. And they kept 0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:41.680 making the point that Jason Day had moved a little today. 0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:47.480 He shot what an issue today? Two over. Yeah, he's 0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:53.040 five over the card. Tough course, but Adam Scott one 0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:57.360 off the pace there running effectively third because two players 0:38:57.360 --> 0:39:01.279 are sharing the lead there go get them one, three, one, eight, 0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:04.040 seven threes and ombos I mentioned before the news today's 0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:07.359 World Elder Abuse Day, and we have to do more 0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:11.240 on this. We really do a touched on this story yesterday. 0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:14.080 The Council of Aging Australia have had a bit to 0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:18.960 say about this. These statistics are certainly disturbing. More than 0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:22.880 one in six older Australians experience what they called elder 0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:26.720 abuse and tragically, over sixty percent of them don't seek 0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:30.799 help because they're scared of the potential retaliation or not 0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:36.560 being believed. Can you imagine any other cohort coming forward 0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:42.400 and having a complaint or noting mistreatment or bullying and 0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:45.399 simply because of the cohort that you're in, you think, oh, 0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:47.840 well they're not going to believe me. I'm an older Australian. 0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:53.080 That's disgusting. Now coda. The Council of the Aging is 0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:56.280 calling on the Federal government to ensure a new national 0:39:56.400 --> 0:40:00.520 plan includes clear funded commitments. They want to see National 0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:03.720 Plan to End the Abuse and Mistreatment of Older People 0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:07.399 twenty twenty four to twenty thirty four implemented to solve 0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:10.160 the problem. Let's find out about this I'm delighted to 0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:14.000 say the acting chief executive of KOTA is Corey Earlham, 0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:15.640 who joins me on the line. 0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:18.279 Get a Corey, Yeah, Luke, thanks for having us on. 0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:20.359 Not at all, mate, nice to talk to you. It 0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:24.839 is disgusting. It's a horrible way to look at our 0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:29.560 society if we have put older Australians in the majority 0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:33.279 in a position where they believe if they call this 0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:36.279 stuff out, they'll either they'll either have to do with 0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:39.480 retaliation or they won't be believed. That's horrible. 0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:43.360 Yeah, look, it really is, and it has some devastating consequences. 0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:46.200 Not only can they be physically harmed or that mental 0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:48.920 health can be affected, but it can even lead to 0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:51.320 premise your death and financial devastation. 0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:55.720 Yeah. So when we define, if we even define elder abuse, 0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:57.800 it doesn't have to be physical ICM. 0:40:58.640 --> 0:40:59.360 No, it doesn't. 0:40:59.680 --> 0:40:59.960 It can. 0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:03.600 Financial abuse would be coercive control. And then of course 0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:07.240 it can be that physical abuse, and unfortunately it often 0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:09.640 is at the hands of somebody close to them, a 0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:10.920 family member or a friend. 0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:14.200 Now, I think many people might expect this is a 0:41:14.239 --> 0:41:18.880 sort of behavior you might see in a general accommodation setting. 0:41:18.920 --> 0:41:20.520 I don't want to say, but I will an age 0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:25.719 care facility or to like, but this could happen at home, surely, Yeah, 0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:26.120 and it. 0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:29.000 Does happen too often at home. The New South Wales 0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:32.680 Aging Disability Commission today released there stat saying that thirty 0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:35.480 percent of the calls that they get are about elder abuse. 0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:38.520 That's quite a large amount that's coming through to them. 0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:41.520 And as you said before, one in six old Australians 0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:44.080 will experienced some form of elder abuse in their life. 0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:46.400 What do you think government need to do? You're calling 0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:48.200 for them to do more. What do they need to do? 0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:49.399 Well? 0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:51.640 Look, the really important role that government can plays raise 0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:54.000 awareness and we've seen lots of state territory governments do 0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:56.160 that today as part of the Awareness Day. 0:41:56.880 --> 0:41:57.399 But at the. 0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:59.959 Central government, we need to make sure this new place 0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:02.799 and that's coming out to replace the current one, will 0:42:03.000 --> 0:42:06.200 fund the services on the front line, and especially for 0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:10.440 older women, because they're often invisible inside either domestic violence 0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:13.879 or age care systems when they are experiencing that later 0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:15.160 in life's domestic violence. 0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:17.879 We've got this thing. I don't know how we got here, 0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:21.080 but this thing in Australia. I think the indigenous culture 0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:24.920 has great respect for elder or senior members of it. 0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:28.640 But I've called this out for a while. I just 0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:33.440 think it appears to me that ageism is aism that's okay. Now, 0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:36.959 this is a lot worse than just discriminating against someone 0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:38.840 in the workforce or whatever it might be. This is 0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:43.560 the abuse of older Australians. Have we missed the boat there? 0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:47.480 I mean, is there a way forward where you see 0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:51.719 that in fact society treats older Australians, older members of 0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:54.560 it with a bit more decency in respect It doesn't 0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:55.480 seem to be the case. 0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:58.239 Look, I think if we look at the journey of 0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:01.680 any of the isms racism, sexism, it always starts with 0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:05.040 raising this awareness. But then it's also about looking inwards. 0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:06.839 You know, we find a lot of people have what 0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:10.640 we call internalized agism, where they take on those negative 0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:14.880 perceptions of aging and they just don't think or realize 0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:17.879 it's unconscious the types of things that they do, whether 0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:21.920 it be an age care worker assuming everybody is deaf 0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:26.200 and speaking loudly to everybody, or whether it be you 0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:28.799 know a little bit of inheritance in patience, as we 0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:30.919 often find with family and thinking that if you're helping 0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:34.719 out mum or dad looking after their finances, that it's 0:43:34.760 --> 0:43:36.520 okay for you to be able to dip into that 0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:39.880 money because you're helping them out. That's all different types 0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:42.280 of forms of elder abuse and ageism is the start 0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:43.120 of how we tackle it. 0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:45.880 Yeah, excellent, Good on you for calling this out and 0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:47.759 thanks so much for your time. Corey, good to chat. 0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:51.040 Thanks very much, all the best. Acting Chief Executive of 0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:55.960 the Council of Aging Australia, Corey Earlam. Well, I think 0:43:56.000 --> 0:43:58.000 you know my view and all of that, and I 0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:01.600 won't be quiet on it because, as I say each 0:44:01.640 --> 0:44:04.640 time we talk about it, it is disgusting. You have 0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:06.600 an older person in your life and you think, right, oh, 0:44:06.600 --> 0:44:08.799 their money is my money, or I'll do what I 0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:10.919 want them to do. And can you imagine going through 0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:12.560 life and having to deal with all the things that 0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:14.759 we have to deal with and you get to the 0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:19.280 latest stages and you think on this person's puppet, family 0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:22.920 member or someone you rely on. It's just disgusting. And 0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:25.480 then please don't walk past and call it out. I mean, 0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:29.520 we are encouraged to call all the isms out as 0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:33.160 we should. I'm sorry to have this view, but it 0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:36.520 seems to me ageism is the ism that's okay. Well, 0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:40.160 it ain't okay, not on this show, shouldn't be okay, 0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:43.920 bloody well any word, it's disgusting, it's appalling fourteen and alfter. 0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:50.279 Ten opinions That matter is you can trust and now 0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:52.640 look grand comments. 0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:57.360 Imagine having a job where you know that each year 0:44:57.440 --> 0:45:02.040 you just turn up and you get an extra so 0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:05.160 we read through the week. Anthony Albanesi and other politicians 0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:08.920 are set for a plumped up pay packed in just weeks, 0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:12.480 with the Prime Minister's salary jumping from six hundred and 0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:15.040 seven thousand a year to six hundred and twenty two 0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:20.960 thousand dollars a year just for turning up. Politicians, department 0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:24.120 secretaries and other senior public servants will get a two 0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:27.680 point four percent pay rise from July one, following the 0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:31.640 determination of the twenty twenty five Review of Remuneration for 0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:37.440 Holders of Public Office. Yep, just for turning up. The 0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:40.520 statement issued by the Tribunal on Wednesday noted that the 0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:43.839 total remuneration increases given in the past year have been 0:45:43.880 --> 0:45:50.040 relatively modest. Oh that's nice, just for turning up, while 0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:53.719 the two point four percent pay bump matched inflation. It 0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:56.680 was under the three point four percent wage price index 0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:59.560 for the public sector and less than the three point 0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:02.600 four per cent and four percent increases of ordered by 0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:07.359 the Tribunal after salaries stalled during the COVID pandemic. Well, 0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:14.000 isn't that nice just for turning up. Politicians set to 0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:18.280 get this pay rise include the humble back bencher, going 0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:20.720 from two hundred and thirty three thousand to two hundred 0:46:20.719 --> 0:46:23.880 and thirty nine thousand, while Susan Lee gets a boost 0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:26.880 of ten thousand to four hundred and forty two thousand. 0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:30.520 Jim Charmers annual pay it goes to four hundred and 0:46:30.600 --> 0:46:33.800 forty eight thousand, an increase of ten thousand, and capitet 0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:36.959 ministers up four thousand dollars to four hundred and twelve 0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:43.480 thousand dollars just for turning up. There's a big debate 0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:46.359 happening in Australia now. In fact, we're about to get 0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:50.160 a round table on productivity. You know, the idea of 0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:54.480 getting a bit more for getting a bit more. But 0:46:54.600 --> 0:46:58.600 each year you and I sit here having to pay 0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:01.520 power bills. He can't jump go to the supermarket. You 0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:03.720 look at every price twice of course you can't bloody 0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:09.040 believe it, and then the people we elect to make 0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:14.000 our lives better get a bump of thousands of dollars 0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:19.600 just for turning up. It's Weekends on two GBN four 0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:22.439 BC with Luke Grant Sunday Morning. This is a time 0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:26.520 where we spotlight an Australian who's done extraordinary things. It's 0:47:26.600 --> 0:47:31.480 Nick caldus Ao. He was rightfully honored amongst the King's 0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:35.160 Birthday honors announced just a week ago. He's currently the 0:47:35.200 --> 0:47:39.440 Assistant Commander in Chief of the Abu Dhabi Police Force and, 0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:43.880 amongst other things, one of Australia's most significant police officers. 0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:46.800 I'm delighted to say he's on the line from Abu 0:47:46.880 --> 0:47:49.520 dhby thank you for your time. You must be somewhat humbled, 0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:50.000 my friend. 0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:54.960 It is. I'm very humbled, Luke, and I'm very grateful. 0:47:56.320 --> 0:47:59.080 I hope in some ways it's not just a recognition 0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:03.000 of me, cognission of all the communities, including my own 0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:05.840 out of the community, the Egyptian community, the copt the 0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:08.560 community that I'm not only a part of, but I've 0:48:08.560 --> 0:48:11.200 worked very closely with it. They've supported me out of decades, 0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:14.400 and I hope it's a recognition of news a class 0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:17.239 police men and women as well, who spent the best 0:48:17.239 --> 0:48:19.920 part of four decades, you know, being a part of 0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:24.400 So I'm very grateful and HUMBLEDT just came out of 0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:25.840 left field, but I'm very grateful. 0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:30.480 Tell me about how Nick, born in Egypt ends up 0:48:30.480 --> 0:48:31.919 with the family in Australia. 0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:36.680 My grade in nineteen sixty nine, and I always was 0:48:36.680 --> 0:48:39.440 a very cold July day where arrived in Sydney and 0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:42.399 we didn't know anyone or anything, which makes a little 0:48:42.440 --> 0:48:44.480 more remarkable. I look at where I've been, you know 0:48:44.640 --> 0:48:46.400 what I've done. I don't know how I've got it. 0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:52.160 We came and we settled in Maryville initially and then 0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:55.080 moved around to see me for a little while. I 0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:58.640 joined the police. And when I'm from there that I think. 0:48:58.680 --> 0:49:01.759 One thing my father, he passed away many years ago, 0:49:02.280 --> 0:49:06.280 instilled in all of us is about hard work, doing 0:49:06.320 --> 0:49:10.160 the right thing and actually caring about people and as 0:49:10.160 --> 0:49:12.000 you go along in your way, and I hope I've 0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:15.840 done that along the way. But I look back on 0:49:15.880 --> 0:49:19.520 it all work and I just feel incredibly blessed to 0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:21.360 have worked with all the people I've worked with and 0:49:22.200 --> 0:49:23.239 done of the things I've done. 0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:26.560 Did you ays want to be a copper or was 0:49:26.600 --> 0:49:29.040 that something that you know, it seemed like a good 0:49:29.080 --> 0:49:30.840 idea at the time. Did you grow up wanting to 0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:31.760 be in the police force? 0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:35.560 I did, actually very much so, and all my family 0:49:35.600 --> 0:49:38.279 expect that I'll do it sooner or later. It took 0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:40.920 me a little while, but I actually didn't seek I 0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:44.439 was tall enough, and in the late seventies and early 0:49:44.480 --> 0:49:47.560 eighties there were height requirements for new stuff. After weeks 0:49:47.960 --> 0:49:50.239 when I finally got up there got some went into 0:49:50.280 --> 0:49:53.360 Crease Headquarters that in what used to be the Avery 0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:56.600 building in College Street. I was tall enough. There was 0:49:56.640 --> 0:49:59.920 no problem. I was actually too skilled. You wouldn't believe 0:49:59.920 --> 0:50:00.600 that now. 0:50:04.440 --> 0:50:06.360 Well, you know, you've you've got to you've got to 0:50:06.400 --> 0:50:09.399 be got to make yourself strong. That's what you've got 0:50:09.400 --> 0:50:14.960 to do. Your need food, don't you That's yeah. 0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:18.680 Yeah now. And then one side flight obviously I'm in 0:50:18.800 --> 0:50:21.759 and the class that I went to, the class one 0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:24.919 set of nine. We're just fantastic and we're still in touch, 0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:27.960 most of us, and Jez renions. 0:50:28.600 --> 0:50:31.640 Jeez, in all the work you've done, it's it's you know, 0:50:31.680 --> 0:50:34.280 it's a bit like talking to a footballer and asking 0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:37.920 them their favorite performance. But you've been you've worked in 0:50:37.960 --> 0:50:42.080 the homicide squad, obviously involved in some of the most complex, 0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:48.279 high profile murder investigations. Is there one that not necessarily 0:50:48.840 --> 0:50:51.640 sticks out because you know you've got the job done quickly, 0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:56.200 but was perhaps complicated and required excellent policing to get 0:50:56.239 --> 0:50:58.920 a result. Is there is there one that you particularly 0:50:58.960 --> 0:50:59.480 reflect on. 0:51:00.360 --> 0:51:03.319 That's a good question. I'm a bit loath to sort 0:51:03.320 --> 0:51:05.799 of seeing one out, but I guess the one that 0:51:05.880 --> 0:51:09.840 took the longest and was in many ways satisfying to 0:51:10.120 --> 0:51:13.320 resolve was the murder of John Human, the member of Parliament, 0:51:13.520 --> 0:51:15.920 which took seven or eight years for us to get 0:51:15.960 --> 0:51:19.879 a conviction, and then another seven or eight years where 0:51:19.880 --> 0:51:24.279 they appears all the way to the High Court. Was convicted, 0:51:24.440 --> 0:51:26.640 he sentenced to life, never to be released, and it's 0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:29.719 made doubt in my mind that he did it, and 0:51:29.719 --> 0:51:32.880 that he was planned an inquiry, a law commission if 0:51:32.880 --> 0:51:35.760 you like, into his conviction, which was essentially an inquiry 0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:39.400 to what we said and did fifteen years before. So 0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:44.120 it was quite torturous, and that it was I never 0:51:44.160 --> 0:51:48.000 heard any of my teammates say, look, it's too hard. 0:51:48.040 --> 0:51:50.280 I want to get out. We're all stuck to the task. 0:51:50.320 --> 0:51:53.200 We all stuck together and among my closest friends, and 0:51:53.239 --> 0:51:56.040 I'm really proud of all of them and the fact 0:51:56.080 --> 0:51:57.960 that we've stuck together and got the job done. 0:51:58.560 --> 0:52:00.000 I know this, it's probably a bit of a whole 0:52:00.080 --> 0:52:03.319 would thing. But Nick, how do you stop something like that, 0:52:03.520 --> 0:52:09.440 which I guess to some extent becomes an obsession? How 0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:12.280 do you stop it overtaking your life? Can you actually 0:52:12.280 --> 0:52:15.520 do that? Because you end up living and breathing this thing, 0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:16.680 don't you? 0:52:16.680 --> 0:52:18.960 You do, and with the real danger of that. But 0:52:19.040 --> 0:52:21.720 I think I've had over a decade in the homicide squad, 0:52:21.760 --> 0:52:25.160 and you do learn to sort of not compartmentalize, but 0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:28.839 workers work on his own family's family, and you try 0:52:28.880 --> 0:52:30.879 and not let it intrude on your thoughts while you're 0:52:30.920 --> 0:52:34.200 with home and family and so on. I think most 0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:35.880 of us are pretty good with that. But this was 0:52:35.960 --> 0:52:39.719 quite significant, look because it was described by the sentencing 0:52:39.800 --> 0:52:45.400 judge Justice Dunford's a political assassination man who was killed 0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:49.319 not because of what, you know, anything he did, but 0:52:49.400 --> 0:52:52.960 because of simply who he was. And it was pretty 0:52:53.000 --> 0:52:56.880 clear that the fellow who killed him from, you know, 0:52:57.120 --> 0:52:59.800 was his political opponent and wasn't going to get anywhere 0:52:59.840 --> 0:53:02.200 in you got, and so you thought, okay, I'll thought 0:53:02.239 --> 0:53:02.600 that out. 0:53:02.760 --> 0:53:03.040 You did. 0:53:05.160 --> 0:53:06.080 It was quite tragical. 0:53:06.680 --> 0:53:10.040 Yeah it was. Yeah, I'll ask you quickly. I'm kind 0:53:10.080 --> 0:53:13.520 of uncomfortable, but I want to I remember a number 0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:18.720 of colleagues, might even include me here at this radio station, 0:53:18.920 --> 0:53:22.799 thought that you were the perfect appointment as police commissioner. 0:53:24.200 --> 0:53:29.640 You decided to step away and pursue something different. Can 0:53:29.640 --> 0:53:32.839 you look back at that fondly? Do you look back 0:53:32.880 --> 0:53:37.600 at that with frustration? I probably shouldn't pry because I 0:53:37.600 --> 0:53:39.359 had great respect for you, but I want to ask 0:53:39.400 --> 0:53:40.239 you that, mate. 0:53:40.280 --> 0:53:42.439 I appreciate that. You know. That's a good quesse. There's 0:53:42.440 --> 0:53:45.560 no no disrespect man, and I'm not offended in any way. 0:53:46.560 --> 0:53:50.439 Look up, only thirty five years commissioner at the time, 0:53:50.520 --> 0:53:52.920 ender scip you only got another four or five year contract. 0:53:53.640 --> 0:53:57.080 If community wasn't going anywhere and one was being offered 0:53:57.400 --> 0:54:00.320 all sorts of things, I've decided it was to go. 0:54:01.160 --> 0:54:03.719 I don't look back with any sense of frustration. I've 0:54:03.760 --> 0:54:07.799 said in the book I've written, I regret nothing. I 0:54:07.920 --> 0:54:11.040 moved on I made a decision consciously not to stay 0:54:11.040 --> 0:54:14.360 in Sydney once I got out, would I shoulder was 0:54:14.640 --> 0:54:17.920 never really me. I took on the leadership role and 0:54:17.960 --> 0:54:20.800 we investigate United Nations investigation in the chemical workers in 0:54:20.840 --> 0:54:23.480 the area, and then a bunch of other things, obviously 0:54:23.480 --> 0:54:25.640 think in the world, conditioned the military source side, and 0:54:26.000 --> 0:54:29.760 I'm now working with Ada Dabi police in the United 0:54:29.800 --> 0:54:32.120 around and Emirates, and I'm quite proud of that. So 0:54:32.280 --> 0:54:34.799 you just you move on, you look ahead. That's been 0:54:35.719 --> 0:54:39.280 you know what our family does. We left things behind 0:54:39.320 --> 0:54:43.200 in Egypt as well. You just have to look ahead, 0:54:43.680 --> 0:54:46.640 do as you know as well as you can with 0:54:46.800 --> 0:54:49.320 whatever you've got in front of you, and enjoy life, 0:54:50.200 --> 0:54:51.359 which is what I hope I've done. 0:54:52.440 --> 0:54:57.280 Wow, your work as the Royal Commissioner in the veteran 0:54:57.360 --> 0:55:02.400 suicide is Look again, it's a silly question, but I 0:55:02.520 --> 0:55:05.880 spoke to you during that process. I could just sense, 0:55:06.400 --> 0:55:07.880 and you don't need me to say this, but I 0:55:07.920 --> 0:55:10.600 could just sense how important you knew it was, and 0:55:11.040 --> 0:55:14.520 you work there is exemply. But I wonder if we've 0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:18.600 actually met your expectations in the way we've dealt with things. 0:55:20.400 --> 0:55:23.040 I think it's too early to tell whether the Law 0:55:23.080 --> 0:55:25.920 Commision has had the impact that everyone wanted it to have. 0:55:26.840 --> 0:55:29.839 The government very quickly responded, in fact that you had 0:55:29.880 --> 0:55:32.600 record time because they're working. That's how important it was. 0:55:32.920 --> 0:55:35.800 Except one hundred and four one hundred and twenty two recommendations, 0:55:36.160 --> 0:55:38.760 including the main run of establishing the body that monitors 0:55:38.840 --> 0:55:43.080 welfare and reports publicly. We're working on all of that now, 0:55:43.200 --> 0:55:46.200 so I'm optimistic about the future. I'm being accused of 0:55:46.280 --> 0:55:49.640 being an eternal optimist, but it was really important work. 0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:54.200 It was definitely hardgoing that there was a lot of 0:55:54.280 --> 0:55:56.400 sadness really that I am the stuff that even we 0:55:56.480 --> 0:55:59.360 had a welfare regime in place for everyone. But the 0:55:59.400 --> 0:56:02.480 thing that struck new because the similarities between the problems 0:56:02.520 --> 0:56:06.960 in the military and law enforcement and emergency services is startling. 0:56:07.360 --> 0:56:10.960 It's exactly the same problems. I've had a bit to 0:56:11.000 --> 0:56:13.319 say about that. I was granted a meeting with there 0:56:13.360 --> 0:56:16.880 were Police Commissioners of Australia and New Zealand through RAMSPAR 0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:20.080 and we're this customer full in frank discussion and we're 0:56:20.120 --> 0:56:23.880 all doing bits and pieces in terms of welfare and research. 0:56:24.120 --> 0:56:27.399 I'm trying to view with these problems, but I won't 0:56:27.560 --> 0:56:29.800 go over it all again. But when we finished the 0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:32.279 Law Commission, in the closing address, I did say that 0:56:32.440 --> 0:56:35.160 this has been a national disgrace, how we've treated our 0:56:35.239 --> 0:56:38.160 veterans and serving members, how we've taken it along off 0:56:38.239 --> 0:56:41.200 the ball of society. Our media and the political class 0:56:41.280 --> 0:56:44.600 did not pain enough attention the fifty seven inquiries that 0:56:44.719 --> 0:56:48.359 preceded US seven hundred and seven recommendations, most of which 0:56:48.400 --> 0:56:54.440 were not acquitted fully. And it was in plain sight anyway, 0:56:55.840 --> 0:56:58.560 we're there now, we've had the inquiry, We've highlighted the problems. 0:56:58.600 --> 0:57:02.359 We took an under usual approach. We decided to talk 0:57:02.400 --> 0:57:04.200 to the media and do as much coverage as we 0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:07.680 could get it all out there, basically, And a lot 0:57:07.719 --> 0:57:10.719 of people from the legal fraternity felt that they were 0:57:10.800 --> 0:57:13.800 uncomfortable with that. It's a precidented for the Royal Commissioner, 0:57:14.080 --> 0:57:16.120 a sitting royal commission to say so n us and 0:57:16.240 --> 0:57:18.600 do so much with the media. But you felt that 0:57:18.760 --> 0:57:21.680 the only way we're going to achieve real lasting change 0:57:22.240 --> 0:57:24.200 was to actually bring all the problems out into the 0:57:24.280 --> 0:57:27.280 sunshine and let them be dealt with a name and 0:57:27.360 --> 0:57:29.960 deal with hopefully. And I hope and pray we've done that. 0:57:30.240 --> 0:57:33.720 Yeah, No, you were brilliant. Brilliant. You're the assistant Commander 0:57:33.760 --> 0:57:37.080 in chief of the Abu Dhabi Police Force. So what 0:57:37.240 --> 0:57:40.520 does work look like? How different is it to the 0:57:41.720 --> 0:57:44.520 days when you were operating in uniform in New South Wales. 0:57:45.960 --> 0:57:49.080 It is very different obviously culturally and every other way. 0:57:49.760 --> 0:57:52.720 There's some really incredibly clever people here in the police, 0:57:52.760 --> 0:57:56.040 leaning government generally, and I think I'm beginning to recognize 0:57:56.040 --> 0:58:00.240 after only a couple of months that that actually much 0:58:00.240 --> 0:58:03.280 more advanced than Australia in many ways in terms of 0:58:03.520 --> 0:58:07.080 use of technology and other ways they're dealing with things, 0:58:07.160 --> 0:58:09.360 and they're very open minded, which is what attracted me 0:58:09.440 --> 0:58:12.160 to the role, and I'm very grateful and again humbled 0:58:12.320 --> 0:58:15.400 to be asked to play this part. I'm bringing a 0:58:15.440 --> 0:58:18.000 different perspective, I guess, to the way things have done. 0:58:18.320 --> 0:58:21.479 I'm bringing the international connections that I'm happy to build 0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:25.640 over the decades to bear and it's going to be 0:58:25.640 --> 0:58:27.600 a very interesting few years ji a couple of years 0:58:27.640 --> 0:58:32.440 while i'm here. And again my father has taught me 0:58:32.960 --> 0:58:35.560 to don't move on until you've made your mark, and 0:58:35.840 --> 0:58:38.000 I hope I will make my Marqi. I'm certainly not 0:58:38.200 --> 0:58:40.760 very it. So I played some small contribution in their 0:58:40.800 --> 0:58:45.080 revolution here and I really hope to build the connections 0:58:45.120 --> 0:58:47.640 between the golf and the air countries and Australian law 0:58:47.720 --> 0:58:50.120 enforcement more strongly than they have been in the past. 0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:52.760 Well, Denck, we side this partner sound out to talk 0:58:52.840 --> 0:58:56.400 to remarkable Australians and you're certainly one of those. Nick 0:58:56.480 --> 0:58:59.960 Calder's AO, congratulations and can I get to say Nick, 0:59:00.120 --> 0:59:03.000 thank you for everything you've done, not just here but 0:59:03.560 --> 0:59:07.520 all around the world. An exceptional human being and we 0:59:08.200 --> 0:59:10.080 value the opportunity to talk to you and I wish 0:59:10.120 --> 0:59:10.439 you well. 0:59:10.800 --> 0:59:12.800 Thank you very much, Luc, and thank you for your 0:59:12.880 --> 0:59:16.960 continuing support of those in uniform make military and police 0:59:17.160 --> 0:59:20.880 and emergency services. It's been fantastic. I just I'm really 0:59:20.920 --> 0:59:23.040 grateful to you for thinking of Thanks. 0:59:23.320 --> 0:59:27.160 Not at all, Nick Caldice outstanding, all the best mate, 0:59:27.360 --> 0:59:31.440 and plenty of feedback, just decoing everything that I've been saying. 0:59:31.560 --> 0:59:33.680 A bit of a fanboy moment for me, because I 0:59:33.760 --> 0:59:36.560 do you think he's remarkable And look on the back 0:59:36.600 --> 0:59:40.920 of that chat to Nick, New South Wales Police legacy 0:59:41.000 --> 0:59:47.440 and collaboration with seven Australian Police Legacies have launched National 0:59:47.520 --> 0:59:51.360 Police Legacy Day to celebrate the important work done by 0:59:51.920 --> 0:59:55.520 the nonprofit charities around the country to support police officers 0:59:55.560 --> 1:00:00.480 and their loved ones. The newly established National Police Legacy 1:00:00.600 --> 1:00:04.280 Day observed annually on the seventeenth of journe It aims 1:00:04.320 --> 1:00:07.760 to bring attention to the difficulties faced by police families 1:00:08.240 --> 1:00:12.000 left behind after tragedy, the significant financial strain and emotional distress, 1:00:12.480 --> 1:00:16.480 and challenges reldded to the family structure and daily life. 1:00:16.600 --> 1:00:20.800 This National Police Legacy Day will feature a variety of activities, 1:00:20.840 --> 1:00:25.040 community events, fundraising efforts and a call to illuminate buildings 1:00:25.080 --> 1:00:27.960 around the state in a blue light. In the evening. 1:00:28.920 --> 1:00:32.480 The opera house sales will be blue in Sydney and Premiere. 1:00:32.720 --> 1:00:37.560 You've done well there, tick, So you'll see that on 1:00:37.680 --> 1:00:41.280 the seventeenth Tuesday. And when you see blue, we'll hear 1:00:41.320 --> 1:00:44.000 about this. You'll know, wow, got to get behind that. 1:00:44.240 --> 1:00:47.520 We thank all police all over the country for their service. 1:00:50.280 --> 1:00:54.840 Now on weekends talking technology with Stephen Finnick from tech 1:00:54.920 --> 1:00:58.480 guide dot Com. TODAYU now at Harvey Norman save up 1:00:58.520 --> 1:01:02.000 to thirty percent, plask ten percent in bonus gift cards 1:01:02.240 --> 1:01:06.880 on Windows eleven computers over five hundred dollars Buffer end Sunday. Yeah, 1:01:06.880 --> 1:01:09.160 if you've got a question for Stephen Fennick one three 1:01:09.240 --> 1:01:11.600 one eight seven three, call us now. We'll get you 1:01:11.680 --> 1:01:14.360 as quickly as we can. One three one eight seven three. 1:01:14.600 --> 1:01:17.560 And I should mention that if you miss talking to 1:01:17.640 --> 1:01:20.160 Stephen here, you can always go to tech guide dot com, 1:01:20.240 --> 1:01:22.280 dot a you and you can click on a think 1:01:22.440 --> 1:01:24.880 ll the ask Stephen button. 1:01:25.000 --> 1:01:26.960 Now you know you can do that. But ring now 1:01:27.120 --> 1:01:28.400 so you can have a chat to the grade man. 1:01:28.440 --> 1:01:29.040 How are you good? 1:01:29.240 --> 1:01:29.360 Luke? 1:01:29.400 --> 1:01:29.560 Good? 1:01:29.560 --> 1:01:31.560 Thank you? After the footy later on we'll be out 1:01:31.600 --> 1:01:32.800 there mate, cheering on the rabbit O. 1:01:32.920 --> 1:01:35.600 So hopefully you win this today against the doggies. Yeah, 1:01:35.640 --> 1:01:39.920 well they're down some, but yeah you'll still yeah Latrell 1:01:40.480 --> 1:01:42.560 and Cammel Graham. I think it's still injured. So yeah, 1:01:42.600 --> 1:01:44.880 it's sort of we'll see how we go, mate, but 1:01:45.840 --> 1:01:47.320 I'm confident that good okay. 1:01:47.240 --> 1:01:51.000 Good okay. Apple unveils a new design for all its 1:01:51.080 --> 1:01:54.840 software platforms and new features for the iPhone and the 1:01:55.160 --> 1:01:58.600 Apple Watch. So tell us what they've got in mind here. Well, 1:01:58.680 --> 1:02:01.120 this was earlier this week they had. 1:02:01.040 --> 1:02:04.560 The Worldwide Developers Conference, which is all about the software, 1:02:04.680 --> 1:02:06.800 and the first thing they did was unify all the 1:02:06.920 --> 1:02:10.200 names of all the software and there's WOS, mac os, yeah, 1:02:10.280 --> 1:02:13.280 and they all had different numbers. Now it's all twenty six, 1:02:13.560 --> 1:02:15.280 which it reflects the upcoming year. 1:02:16.080 --> 1:02:16.960 So they did that. 1:02:17.480 --> 1:02:20.400 They also unveil the new design language across the all 1:02:20.720 --> 1:02:23.160 the platforms to do so this liquid glass sort of 1:02:23.200 --> 1:02:26.880 look and feel, so that the actual interface is that 1:02:27.600 --> 1:02:29.560 the menus and tabs and stuff are now going to 1:02:29.640 --> 1:02:32.200 be look like they're made of glass, still like transparent, 1:02:32.280 --> 1:02:34.200 still see content, but you can still access all the 1:02:34.440 --> 1:02:36.840 all the buttons and things. So it's they're going to 1:02:36.880 --> 1:02:39.840 adopt that as well for these new OS's. But the 1:02:40.640 --> 1:02:43.880 iPhone features, there's some new features coming up. One I 1:02:44.120 --> 1:02:46.439 like his hold assist. So who have been on hold 1:02:46.480 --> 1:02:49.320 and you're waiting for ages on hold? Well, now the 1:02:49.440 --> 1:02:51.800 phone will wait on hold for you. So it'll just 1:02:52.320 --> 1:02:54.800 it'll wait when you get to the front of the line, 1:02:55.200 --> 1:02:57.480 it'll tell the person, Okay, I'm going to grab Stephen 1:02:57.560 --> 1:02:59.520 now here. He'll talk to you in a second and 1:03:00.120 --> 1:03:01.680 then you can answer the call. 1:03:02.400 --> 1:03:03.080 That's one. 1:03:03.200 --> 1:03:04.919 The other one, this is a good one too. Call 1:03:05.120 --> 1:03:08.720 screening is another thing that they've been introduced, and this 1:03:09.040 --> 1:03:11.880 base like it says it's like having the secretary outside 1:03:11.920 --> 1:03:15.400 your door answering your calls right and if you don't 1:03:15.440 --> 1:03:17.280 know the number, you can sort of send it to 1:03:17.400 --> 1:03:22.040 call screening. It'll ask the person who about what do 1:03:22.040 --> 1:03:24.360 you want to do, and the person will be responding 1:03:24.440 --> 1:03:26.640 and you can read it in real time what they're saying, 1:03:27.320 --> 1:03:29.480 and you may may think, okay, I'll answer this call, 1:03:29.600 --> 1:03:31.520 or or you know, it could be a scammer. 1:03:31.280 --> 1:03:31.840 Trying to scam. 1:03:31.920 --> 1:03:34.840 You could be a telemarketer. If you don't know the number, 1:03:34.880 --> 1:03:37.320 it's sort of got you back there. And the other 1:03:37.400 --> 1:03:40.560 one too is live translation. So if you're talking in 1:03:40.640 --> 1:03:42.680 another if you're talking to someone in another language, say 1:03:42.680 --> 1:03:44.360 you're in Paris and you want to book a restaurant 1:03:44.760 --> 1:03:47.520 and you can't speak French on the call or on 1:03:47.600 --> 1:03:51.440 a message or FaceTime, you're able to speak in English 1:03:51.480 --> 1:03:53.400 and then it'll translate to French for them, and then 1:03:53.440 --> 1:03:55.760 they'll speak their response and then translate English for you 1:03:55.880 --> 1:03:57.960 in real time. You know how you can send an 1:03:58.000 --> 1:03:59.720 email and if you don't, you think you want a 1:03:59.760 --> 1:04:02.960 bit there you can understand you. I wonder if you 1:04:03.040 --> 1:04:06.080 can untranslated. If you're having a blue we down have 1:04:06.120 --> 1:04:08.680 a table for you, sir. Well, you, my friend, are 1:04:08.680 --> 1:04:12.439 a complete don't do that. Yeah, I don't think maybe, 1:04:12.520 --> 1:04:14.160 I don't think that features enabled just yet? 1:04:14.240 --> 1:04:16.800 Right when when we see this stuff? Mate, Well, there's 1:04:16.800 --> 1:04:17.120 going to be. 1:04:17.640 --> 1:04:20.480 A public beta from July. So if you want to 1:04:20.520 --> 1:04:22.800 sign up early and be one of the first to 1:04:22.920 --> 1:04:25.840 try it, and then you can report any bugs, you 1:04:25.920 --> 1:04:29.920 can do that. But will sign up go to the website. 1:04:30.000 --> 1:04:32.080 You go to the website on your device, so if 1:04:32.080 --> 1:04:34.400 it's your iPhone, go to the website on your iPhone 1:04:34.440 --> 1:04:37.479 and it'll download this little piece of software. Then it'll 1:04:37.640 --> 1:04:40.320 restart your phone and then the new software will be 1:04:40.360 --> 1:04:41.160 there ready to load. 1:04:41.240 --> 1:04:41.360 Right. 1:04:41.600 --> 1:04:44.440 But it's what's called a public beach, public beta, yeah, 1:04:44.440 --> 1:04:46.280 which is something we used to do in the old days. 1:04:46.280 --> 1:04:47.720 I thought we'd moved on fair enough. 1:04:48.240 --> 1:04:50.520 This is the beta program, yeah, okay, but it will 1:04:50.560 --> 1:04:54.280 be officially available around the time of the iPhone seventeen 1:04:54.360 --> 1:04:55.840 comes out, which is mid September. 1:04:56.400 --> 1:04:59.880 Now I didn't get sixteen. I think I think fift. 1:05:00.280 --> 1:05:00.880 What have you got? 1:05:01.640 --> 1:05:02.280 Show me your phone? 1:05:02.280 --> 1:05:03.160 I'll tell you at a glance. 1:05:04.240 --> 1:05:06.640 Have you got the dynamic island at the top of. 1:05:06.600 --> 1:05:07.480 The little loop? 1:05:08.240 --> 1:05:09.680 I think I think you got a fifteen. 1:05:10.080 --> 1:05:12.480 I'm going to how long you had it for? 1:05:12.600 --> 1:05:13.919 Well, tell me how long you had the phone? 1:05:14.120 --> 1:05:17.080 No idea? Okay, I got no idea. Woll that was 1:05:17.120 --> 1:05:17.520 fire buck? 1:05:18.400 --> 1:05:20.080 Unlock your phone and give me just give me a 1:05:20.160 --> 1:05:21.000 look at the home screen. 1:05:21.960 --> 1:05:25.600 Yeah, that's the fifteen fifteen. Yeah, you've got what model 1:05:25.640 --> 1:05:25.840 it is? 1:05:26.320 --> 1:05:27.000 That is the Pro? 1:05:27.200 --> 1:05:27.600 Is it Pro? 1:05:28.000 --> 1:05:29.520 Not the Pro Max? That's the Pro and I think 1:05:29.560 --> 1:05:30.360 it's a Prey. Yeah. 1:05:30.760 --> 1:05:34.040 So yeah, the seventeen that we've already seen rumors of 1:05:34.080 --> 1:05:36.640 what it's going to look like. The rumor is that 1:05:36.760 --> 1:05:38.600 the camera bump on the right, So turn it over. 1:05:38.680 --> 1:05:40.960 Look at the camera bump, So where the three lenses are. 1:05:41.760 --> 1:05:43.840 That's going to go across the whole width of the 1:05:43.920 --> 1:05:46.440 back of the of the back of the fourteen Pro. 1:05:46.520 --> 1:05:46.800 There you go. 1:05:46.920 --> 1:05:47.240 Fourteen. 1:05:47.680 --> 1:05:50.120 That's when they introduced the dynamic island, which is that little. 1:05:49.960 --> 1:05:52.800 Hole at the top. Better be Pro. Yeah, you're due 1:05:52.840 --> 1:05:55.240 for an upgrade. I think this year then, mate, I am. Yeah. 1:05:55.280 --> 1:05:59.200 If you're listing at home, it'll be the seventeen iPhone seventeen. Yeah, 1:05:59.280 --> 1:06:02.880 well there's there's going to be yes. So the new 1:06:03.440 --> 1:06:08.520 iOS twenty six will be on already preloaded on the seventeen. 1:06:08.680 --> 1:06:12.120 Okay, you're beating callers, Paul, your first tack when you 1:06:12.200 --> 1:06:14.880 help you, Paul, Morning Morning. 1:06:17.360 --> 1:06:20.080 So when I'm thinking of buying a new TV, and 1:06:20.680 --> 1:06:23.040 quite like the idea of olead, Yes, I haven't read 1:06:23.560 --> 1:06:26.680 a couple of things about them. One about this concern 1:06:26.760 --> 1:06:31.480 with burning, Yes, and there's also that they're particularly fragile. 1:06:32.520 --> 1:06:35.240 Not really, No, the old I remember l G, and 1:06:35.320 --> 1:06:37.400 I've still got this TV. LG had an O lead 1:06:37.560 --> 1:06:38.640 that really showed off. 1:06:38.680 --> 1:06:40.480 Hang on, did you get one hundred new TVs a 1:06:40.560 --> 1:06:41.440 year and you still got one? 1:06:41.520 --> 1:06:41.560 No? 1:06:41.640 --> 1:06:43.040 No, no, this is one that I paid for. 1:06:43.240 --> 1:06:43.840 I bought this one. 1:06:43.920 --> 1:06:47.000 Okay, But the the O lead screen is so it 1:06:47.120 --> 1:06:49.000 is so thin, and for a time it was a 1:06:49.120 --> 1:06:51.400 real talk. It was a sort of the point of difference, 1:06:51.840 --> 1:06:54.520 and LG really highlighted how like its aut as thick 1:06:54.520 --> 1:06:56.760 as a two dollar coin. It's just nothing and it 1:06:56.880 --> 1:06:59.919 is fragile, all right, But you know today's designs there 1:07:00.120 --> 1:07:02.600 over that there looks I think there are about ten 1:07:02.800 --> 1:07:04.920 eleven millimeters now and they're not. 1:07:04.960 --> 1:07:05.920 As fragile at all. 1:07:06.720 --> 1:07:10.560 To address your other thick concern of burning, now, burning 1:07:10.720 --> 1:07:14.760 is when you see O lead for a start to 1:07:14.880 --> 1:07:17.919 understand what it is. It's a self illuminating technology. There's 1:07:17.960 --> 1:07:20.240 no backlight. That's why they can be so thin. So 1:07:20.760 --> 1:07:23.680 when a chargers pass through, the pixel turns. 1:07:23.480 --> 1:07:24.080 On or off. 1:07:24.160 --> 1:07:26.640 That's why you get the really amazing black levels because 1:07:26.640 --> 1:07:29.760 the pixel turns off, there's no backlight to block. It's off. 1:07:30.160 --> 1:07:32.280 It's black on O lead is you can't beat it. 1:07:33.040 --> 1:07:37.680 So the burning issue is if there's an image that 1:07:37.880 --> 1:07:40.440 you say, when you watch a morning breakfast show and 1:07:40.480 --> 1:07:43.160 they've got the logo or the bottom or ticker on 1:07:43.200 --> 1:07:46.560 the bottom, that can if you're watching that all the time, 1:07:46.640 --> 1:07:49.120 it can burn in. In fact, the LGTV that I've got, 1:07:49.520 --> 1:07:51.280 it's like eight years old, it's burnt in. 1:07:51.800 --> 1:07:54.080 I'm not going to actually trowl it away. It's burned in. 1:07:54.720 --> 1:07:57.520 But the features now like Samsung cell Olead and so 1:07:57.680 --> 1:08:02.520 to LG and they've got a feature owl called pixel jogging, 1:08:02.960 --> 1:08:06.840 so that any static image actually slightly moved. So say 1:08:06.880 --> 1:08:09.920 you go to the home screen, the home screen actually 1:08:10.000 --> 1:08:12.080 jogs over a couple of pixels and up and down 1:08:12.120 --> 1:08:14.800 and left and right, so it's never stationary. There's no 1:08:14.920 --> 1:08:17.240 issue with an LED TV with a BACKLIGHTE right, but yeah, 1:08:17.360 --> 1:08:21.320 O lead. You'll even see on old TV a screen saver, 1:08:21.600 --> 1:08:24.439 so if you pour something, it'll then come up with 1:08:24.520 --> 1:08:26.599 a screen saver, so there's nothing static on the screen 1:08:26.640 --> 1:08:29.880 to avoid the burning. So no risk of burning nowadays. 1:08:30.400 --> 1:08:31.480 Bye with confidence. 1:08:32.400 --> 1:08:35.759 They are thank you, Paul. I've got a Mini LED. 1:08:36.600 --> 1:08:37.400 They are they good? 1:08:37.439 --> 1:08:37.559 Well? 1:08:37.640 --> 1:08:40.160 Mini LED is the backlight, so you've got the LED 1:08:40.400 --> 1:08:43.080 lights a Q LEAD. You got a q LEAD Mini LED, 1:08:43.280 --> 1:08:45.160 so the backlights the size of a grain of rice. 1:08:45.240 --> 1:08:47.840 It's really small so that you get they can light 1:08:47.960 --> 1:08:50.840 up and dark and different even more precise parts of 1:08:50.880 --> 1:08:53.719 the screen to get you better black levels, better contrast, 1:08:53.800 --> 1:08:54.320 better color. 1:08:54.560 --> 1:08:57.439 Right. Yeah, go meet Greg. How can we help you? Greg? 1:08:58.680 --> 1:08:58.880 Yeah? 1:08:58.960 --> 1:09:01.160 Hi, Tie Luke, great show. 1:09:01.400 --> 1:09:02.920 Thanks asked Steve a question for. 1:09:05.240 --> 1:09:11.799 Thank you? I Stephen, Look sorry mate, I recently purchased 1:09:12.200 --> 1:09:16.200 not quite a year, the Swan four K Max cameras 1:09:17.400 --> 1:09:20.160 and the look. I'll just be trying to be brief, 1:09:20.200 --> 1:09:25.320 but I have spent hours and hours with the tech support. First, 1:09:25.600 --> 1:09:29.240 I'll just be sure, but that wouldn't do. The solar 1:09:29.320 --> 1:09:32.439 weren't charging. So I bought plug in like the C 1:09:32.720 --> 1:09:37.760 type solar panel that that fixed that. The signal, the 1:09:39.880 --> 1:09:43.400 Wi Fi signal, some of them don't. When I look 1:09:43.439 --> 1:09:46.280 at me up, they're not on. They're not low, they're 1:09:46.320 --> 1:09:48.040 not high, they're not medium. 1:09:48.320 --> 1:09:50.160 So what's your WiFi like? And have you got good 1:09:50.200 --> 1:09:50.920 Wi Fi already? 1:09:51.280 --> 1:09:51.479 Yes? 1:09:51.640 --> 1:09:54.519 Yes, it's an Archer something model. 1:09:54.560 --> 1:09:58.360 But cameras within the range of the Wi Fi because 1:09:58.520 --> 1:10:02.400 I know you place your CA cameras outside. Cameras are 1:10:02.439 --> 1:10:05.719 literally on the outside of outside of your network, outside 1:10:05.760 --> 1:10:08.559 your house, so you need to have decent Wi Fi 1:10:09.320 --> 1:10:09.920 to reach. 1:10:09.840 --> 1:10:10.800 Them for a start. 1:10:10.880 --> 1:10:13.160 But if you've got that, then you can tick that 1:10:13.280 --> 1:10:14.760 off the off the problem list. 1:10:14.880 --> 1:10:19.720 Yes, yes, well I've got them close to you so 1:10:19.840 --> 1:10:24.639 many files and I actually put them close and still 1:10:24.720 --> 1:10:26.400 no different, I mean right near them. 1:10:26.760 --> 1:10:29.000 Was there any issue when you were connecting them, when 1:10:29.000 --> 1:10:30.720 you were connecting them for the first time, was there 1:10:30.760 --> 1:10:32.240 any issue? Did they connect easily? 1:10:33.479 --> 1:10:35.240 Easily? Turn it on? 1:10:36.040 --> 1:10:38.720 Usually usually you need to and this is getting a 1:10:38.760 --> 1:10:40.720 bit technical, usually you need to connect it to the 1:10:40.760 --> 1:10:43.479 two point four gigahertz part of your network. So every 1:10:43.600 --> 1:10:47.720 network is either dual band or tryband. Tryband. Try band 1:10:47.800 --> 1:10:50.240 is two point four five and six. Duel band is 1:10:50.280 --> 1:10:53.519 two point four and five. And there are some routers 1:10:53.560 --> 1:10:56.160 that actually specify which and which network is which, so 1:10:56.840 --> 1:10:59.120 it's easy to say I need to connect to that network, 1:11:00.120 --> 1:11:02.000 So that could be an issue too, unless it's a. 1:11:02.040 --> 1:11:03.240 D like now nowadays. 1:11:03.280 --> 1:11:05.120 A lot of the cameras now dual band, so connects 1:11:05.120 --> 1:11:07.519 to any band, so do there's no issue with it. 1:11:07.680 --> 1:11:11.240 Two point four is advantage because it's got longer range. 1:11:11.280 --> 1:11:13.920 That's why they choose the two point four because normally 1:11:14.400 --> 1:11:16.280 literally on the edge of your network is where you 1:11:16.360 --> 1:11:18.639 can pick up two point four mate, Have you ever 1:11:18.680 --> 1:11:21.360 thought of doing the big reset, reset it all, start 1:11:21.400 --> 1:11:23.639 it all again, connect everything from scratch and just sort 1:11:23.640 --> 1:11:24.880 of see if that fixes everything. 1:11:25.240 --> 1:11:26.000 You've done that already? 1:11:26.280 --> 1:11:28.720 Thank you? Take you mate, thee ah through the technicians 1:11:28.760 --> 1:11:31.400 and that they told me the last time I spoke 1:11:31.479 --> 1:11:33.800 to on Stephen, they said that you need a Wi 1:11:33.920 --> 1:11:35.800 Fi extended. Well, I looked at it, I went to 1:11:36.240 --> 1:11:38.800 where I bought it, and I asked him what's the 1:11:38.880 --> 1:11:41.719 best This is what I bought. What's the best extender 1:11:41.840 --> 1:11:44.479 for my archer? And he said, you don't need it 1:11:44.560 --> 1:11:48.640 because the NVR does not use Wi Fi. It's in 1:11:48.760 --> 1:11:50.759 the camera. So I've got no idea. 1:11:50.960 --> 1:11:53.360 Yeah, I'll give you a tip, mate. I reckon your 1:11:53.560 --> 1:11:57.639 modem a range extender. You need a mesh network mesh 1:11:57.760 --> 1:12:02.240 system so like a netgear. All be the Amazon, Eero, Google, Nest, 1:12:02.320 --> 1:12:05.360 Wi Fi, TP Link have them as well. It's a 1:12:05.640 --> 1:12:08.200 system that one attaches to your modem. The others are 1:12:08.200 --> 1:12:10.760 around your house. And actually it's like an extension called 1:12:10.800 --> 1:12:14.800 for your WiFi consistently across your entire home that I 1:12:14.880 --> 1:12:16.360 think probably would fix your problem. 1:12:16.720 --> 1:12:18.760 All right, give that a go, Greg. I did that 1:12:18.840 --> 1:12:21.479 in my place and it certainly fixed all my instantly. 1:12:21.600 --> 1:12:25.280 Was brilliant good advice from you. Break them back with more. Now, 1:12:25.360 --> 1:12:26.760 if you want to speak to Steve, you've got to 1:12:26.800 --> 1:12:29.559 call early, right, So let's say good ay to terrees, 1:12:29.680 --> 1:12:32.160 good toes. How can Steven help you today? 1:12:32.640 --> 1:12:32.720 Hi? 1:12:32.840 --> 1:12:32.880 That? 1:12:33.320 --> 1:12:36.400 Oh Hi, thank you for talking to me. Look, I'll 1:12:36.439 --> 1:12:38.240 try and make it quick. A few months ago I 1:12:38.320 --> 1:12:41.360 bought an Apple Watch yep, and I'm wondering if you 1:12:41.439 --> 1:12:44.800 can just give me some advice. I've been around the 1:12:44.880 --> 1:12:48.680 world with Apple so to speak, and The thing is, 1:12:49.000 --> 1:12:52.320 I get Vertigo and I've been taking not I've been 1:12:52.360 --> 1:12:55.679 taking Niles for a couple of times, but I don't 1:12:55.680 --> 1:12:58.720 get it often. But I was told to get an 1:12:58.720 --> 1:13:02.800 Apple Watch. Now I've been in store and talk to 1:13:02.880 --> 1:13:06.519 them about the fact that it's meant to call one 1:13:06.600 --> 1:13:09.240 of my family if I'm on the floor if I've 1:13:09.240 --> 1:13:12.920 had a fall, but it's not responding. So I went 1:13:13.040 --> 1:13:15.720 in store and they looked at it and they said, 1:13:15.800 --> 1:13:19.200 I need to talk to Apple Contact center, Like, just 1:13:19.280 --> 1:13:22.519 talk to it on the phone. God run in circles. 1:13:22.600 --> 1:13:23.400 But the thing is. 1:13:25.320 --> 1:13:25.880 In store. 1:13:26.000 --> 1:13:29.200 They told me that the fall detection in the Apple 1:13:29.320 --> 1:13:33.240 Watch is I got the upgraded one which was going 1:13:33.320 --> 1:13:35.600 to do all that, but in store they told me 1:13:36.439 --> 1:13:40.679 that the technology is not quite up there yet. 1:13:41.080 --> 1:13:44.120 Really, well, look what we're going to run out of time? 1:13:45.200 --> 1:13:45.400 Fall? 1:13:45.720 --> 1:13:48.680 By the way, I picked accidentally the other day. My 1:13:48.840 --> 1:13:49.559 watch picked it up. 1:13:49.680 --> 1:13:50.280 Yeah, me too. 1:13:50.360 --> 1:13:50.920 I jumped off. 1:13:51.120 --> 1:13:52.600 I jumped off a ladder the other day and my 1:13:52.760 --> 1:13:55.080 hand hit the desk and it said, oh, yeah, you've 1:13:55.120 --> 1:13:58.720 had a fall. I'd say, Well, for them to say 1:13:58.760 --> 1:14:01.280 that it's not quite there yet, is is wrong? Really 1:14:01.320 --> 1:14:03.360 accurate and they shouldn't be saying that about their own 1:14:03.360 --> 1:14:07.679 product for stuff. But I'd recommend just restoring the watch 1:14:07.960 --> 1:14:13.400 and comparing it to your phone again. And if it's 1:14:13.439 --> 1:14:17.120 not picking up your falls, then there must be something 1:14:17.160 --> 1:14:20.400 wrong with the device itself. So and you can try 1:14:20.439 --> 1:14:22.760 other brands. Like I've said, you need to have a 1:14:22.920 --> 1:14:26.320 Samsung or an Android phone. For Samsung's watches, they have 1:14:26.479 --> 1:14:29.160 full detection as well as to others. But the Apple 1:14:29.280 --> 1:14:33.840 full detection I understand is pretty accurate. I'm surprised it's 1:14:33.880 --> 1:14:34.240 not working. 1:14:34.360 --> 1:14:36.560 Good luck to read. Lilyn wants to know quickly. I 1:14:36.640 --> 1:14:39.800 bought an iPhone sixteen. Well I get the new software 1:14:39.960 --> 1:14:40.880 update it's coming. 1:14:41.000 --> 1:14:44.120 Yeah, Well the iPhone the new software will be compatible 1:14:44.360 --> 1:14:45.880 all the way back to iPhone eleven. 1:14:46.160 --> 1:14:48.439 Wow. Yeah, so I can keep my forte of course 1:14:48.479 --> 1:14:48.680 you can. 1:14:48.800 --> 1:14:50.639 Yeah, you can get the new phone. 1:14:50.720 --> 1:14:51.719 Trying to spend money. 1:14:51.800 --> 1:14:54.360 No, no, you don't have to get let's make exactly, 1:14:54.360 --> 1:14:55.880 you don't need to buy a new phone to get 1:14:55.920 --> 1:14:59.840 the new i iOS. It's compatible iPhone eleven on. 1:15:00.280 --> 1:15:02.959 Yeah. Good to see you mate, good luck this afternoon. 1:15:03.080 --> 1:15:05.800 Thanks Luke. After the footy, mister Fennick with his mum 1:15:05.880 --> 1:15:08.439 will be there cheering on the Bunnies tech Guide dot 1:15:08.520 --> 1:15:10.960 com dot a U S seven All right back. 1:15:10.800 --> 1:15:11.320 In a second. 1:15:22.840 --> 1:15:27.080 Across Australia, it's back to weekends with look Grant. 1:15:27.760 --> 1:15:31.320 Hello there. I hope your Sunday morning's superb at the 1:15:31.360 --> 1:15:33.720 fifteenth of June, and it's good for you to tune in. 1:15:33.840 --> 1:15:36.120 One three one eight seven three is the appen line number. 1:15:36.400 --> 1:15:38.920 The text is zero four six zero eight seven three 1:15:39.280 --> 1:15:41.200 eight seven three. You can email me too at two 1:15:41.280 --> 1:15:46.160 GB dot com, FOURBC dot com dot A yo. What 1:15:46.240 --> 1:15:47.799 are you going to do? Is click on the feedback. 1:15:48.400 --> 1:15:51.320 I can't, are you? I don't think we even refer 1:15:51.439 --> 1:15:56.280 to Jim Junkie. It's so two thousand and fifteen ish 1:15:57.120 --> 1:16:02.519 but a Sydney. Jim's controversial dress code rules, which ban 1:16:02.800 --> 1:16:10.760 women from wearing short shorts, boob tubes what and one 1:16:10.840 --> 1:16:14.360 shoulder tops? Oh what about the poor people with only 1:16:14.439 --> 1:16:18.960 one shoulder That's wrong, have come under fire, with members 1:16:19.000 --> 1:16:23.479 claiming the guidelines are overbearing and sexist. Members of this 1:16:23.600 --> 1:16:26.559 gym at Camperdown have been put off by the rules 1:16:26.600 --> 1:16:29.280 the fact that they're constantly played on TV screens throughout 1:16:29.320 --> 1:16:31.720 the gym. So not only can you not wear a 1:16:31.760 --> 1:16:34.639 boob tube. I wonder if that applies to women as well. 1:16:35.200 --> 1:16:38.880 See what I did there? Not only can you not 1:16:39.000 --> 1:16:42.200 wear a boob tube, yet you're reminded about the fact 1:16:42.240 --> 1:16:46.519 that your face is being rubbed into it. Yes, I 1:16:46.680 --> 1:16:51.960 said that women and men's clothing are displayed with We're 1:16:52.040 --> 1:16:54.320 not still having women's and men's clothing? 1:16:54.400 --> 1:16:54.640 Are we? 1:16:54.800 --> 1:16:59.840 Shortly? It's isn't it? Just clothing? Women's and men's clothing 1:17:00.000 --> 1:17:03.720 displayed with chicks or crosses on a loop? But there 1:17:03.760 --> 1:17:07.360 isn't much difference between the approved and unimproved women's shorts. 1:17:08.240 --> 1:17:10.519 This is a story in the Telegraph today. As well 1:17:10.560 --> 1:17:17.960 as short shorts, the gym has vanned crop tops, one shoulder, 1:17:18.040 --> 1:17:23.400 crop tops, and the aforementioned boob tubes. Hey tell you 1:17:23.479 --> 1:17:27.160 what I had the other day? You know those the tubes? 1:17:27.320 --> 1:17:31.200 Are they tubes? Twbs? How good are they? I haven't 1:17:31.240 --> 1:17:33.760 had them since I was young, so I haven't adding 1:17:33.880 --> 1:17:37.479 for a few weeks, all right, thirty bloody years. Feel 1:17:37.560 --> 1:17:42.760 better now and they're very nice, very nice. Okay, back 1:17:42.800 --> 1:17:47.000 to me. For men, muscle singlets that reveal too much 1:17:47.160 --> 1:17:51.320 back or chest are also prohibited. This is unbelievable. The 1:17:51.400 --> 1:17:53.760 gym z owners Michael Wood and Paul Vella, said the 1:17:53.800 --> 1:17:56.759 guidelines were in place to maintain the family friendly environment. 1:17:57.600 --> 1:18:02.280 Our guidelines require appropriate wear that ensure safety during equipment 1:18:02.400 --> 1:18:06.120 use and maintains our family friendly environment, serving ages fourteen 1:18:06.160 --> 1:18:10.439 plus with an on site crash. The rules have sparked 1:18:10.479 --> 1:18:13.559 fierce online debate, with gym goers labeling the rules strange 1:18:13.600 --> 1:18:19.000 and sexist and questioning why they're displayed so prominently throughout 1:18:19.040 --> 1:18:23.280 the gym. It's almost like, sh don't wear a boob jube, 1:18:23.360 --> 1:18:25.559 but don't tell anyone. I mean, they've got to make 1:18:25.640 --> 1:18:27.519 it out there. Well, you know what, it's their business. 1:18:27.560 --> 1:18:30.080 They can do what they want. Surely. Oh. I was 1:18:30.160 --> 1:18:32.639 originally outraged like the rest of you, but I'm thinking 1:18:32.760 --> 1:18:35.080 good on them. And you know what, if you've got 1:18:35.120 --> 1:18:36.840 to go to the tube, if you got out of 1:18:36.920 --> 1:18:40.439 the gym wearing a boob tube, then that's just not 1:18:40.560 --> 1:18:43.120 the gym for you. There's not like there's not just one. 1:18:43.200 --> 1:18:46.920 There's a few of them. Anyway. I just thought you'd 1:18:47.000 --> 1:18:49.519 enjoy me talking about that. Perhaps you did, or perhaps 1:18:49.560 --> 1:18:53.040 you were long gone and which could come back. More 1:18:53.080 --> 1:18:55.120 than one hundred and seventy people have been arrested during 1:18:55.160 --> 1:18:59.479 the Police Transport Command's latest campaign targeting transport network of fenders, 1:19:00.200 --> 1:19:03.960 bringing the total Operation war Reta arrests to eight hundred 1:19:04.000 --> 1:19:09.400 and thirty three since its inception last year. Operation war 1:19:09.479 --> 1:19:13.160 Reta was established to target violent offenders using Sydney's transport 1:19:13.240 --> 1:19:17.200 network and those committing offenses on public transport. Since the launch, 1:19:18.040 --> 1:19:20.639 officers of later total of fourteen hundred and seventy four 1:19:20.800 --> 1:19:23.679 charges as a result of this. Do you feel safer 1:19:24.320 --> 1:19:32.080 on public transport? I wonder they always have these incidents 1:19:32.120 --> 1:19:38.640 of note. Twenty past midnight on a Monday, police were 1:19:38.680 --> 1:19:42.080 called to Argyll Street, Paramatta following reports of a stalking incident. 1:19:42.200 --> 1:19:45.599 Officers responded. They were told a seventeen year old girl 1:19:45.680 --> 1:19:49.519 had been followed from Paramatta Railway station by a man 1:19:49.600 --> 1:19:55.040 who allegedly inappropriately touched her. Operation war Retah officers arrested 1:19:55.120 --> 1:19:58.960 a thirty four year old man in Paramatter a few 1:19:59.000 --> 1:20:02.760 weeks after It was taken to Paramatta Police station and 1:20:02.880 --> 1:20:07.760 was charred refused bail. He appeared before Paramatta Local Court 1:20:07.920 --> 1:20:13.120 June five. He was further refused bail. He'll reappeared before 1:20:13.160 --> 1:20:18.559 the same court in July. So that's a pretty significant outcome, 1:20:20.040 --> 1:20:22.040 But I think the bigger point and good on police. 1:20:22.080 --> 1:20:24.519 We'd certainly appreciate the work they do, but I just 1:20:24.600 --> 1:20:28.080 wonder if you, as a result of that, feel safer. 1:20:28.600 --> 1:20:31.320 The divisions in the US have been on full display today. 1:20:31.560 --> 1:20:34.840 On one hand, patriotism, pageantry, and all things red, white 1:20:34.880 --> 1:20:38.439 and blue were on show to military parade celebrating the army. 1:20:38.520 --> 1:20:43.120 The US Armies two hundred and fiftieth anniversary. Seven thousand 1:20:43.200 --> 1:20:45.920 troops and tanks, both new and old, rolled through the 1:20:45.960 --> 1:20:50.400 streets of Washington. Instrumental versions of rock music from artists 1:20:50.479 --> 1:20:55.960 including Van Halen and Metallica. The parade was requested by 1:20:56.120 --> 1:21:01.639 President Donald Trump himself and who led a US Army 1:21:02.040 --> 1:21:03.240 enlistment oath. 1:21:03.400 --> 1:21:15.719 And the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God, Congratulations, Congratulations, 1:21:16.760 --> 1:21:19.519 welcome to the United States Army. 1:21:19.600 --> 1:21:20.719 And have a great life. 1:21:20.960 --> 1:21:23.120 Thank you very much, have our great life. 1:21:23.600 --> 1:21:26.280 He then addressed league ceremony, where he hate praise on 1:21:27.000 --> 1:21:30.240 the history and on the future the military. 1:21:31.080 --> 1:21:35.280 No matter the obstacles, our warriors will charge into battle. 1:21:35.880 --> 1:21:39.720 They will plunge into the crucible affire, and they will 1:21:39.800 --> 1:21:43.439 seize the crown of victory. Because the United States of 1:21:43.520 --> 1:21:46.760 America will always have the grace of Almighty God and 1:21:47.640 --> 1:21:53.080 the iron will of the United States Army. Congratulations to everybody. 1:21:53.200 --> 1:21:54.200 We love our country. 1:21:54.640 --> 1:21:58.439 We've never done better. Thank you, God, Bless you, God 1:21:58.560 --> 1:22:01.200 bless the Army, and God blass America. 1:22:02.240 --> 1:22:02.479 Yeah. 1:22:02.520 --> 1:22:05.920 But at the same time, demonstrations organized by a group 1:22:06.000 --> 1:22:10.360 called No Kings, which kicked off ours beforehand in major 1:22:10.400 --> 1:22:15.479 cities including Los Angeles, Philadelphia, and even Nashville. Demonstrators poured 1:22:15.520 --> 1:22:18.479 onto streets and parks to decry Donald Trump as a 1:22:18.560 --> 1:22:21.920 dictator or would be king, and to criticize his use 1:22:21.960 --> 1:22:26.200 of military force to curb protesters. It follows a week 1:22:26.240 --> 1:22:31.160 of increasingly violent clashes between protesters and authorities in LA 1:22:31.240 --> 1:22:36.280 in response to immigration raids. The situation in LA has escalated. 1:22:36.360 --> 1:22:41.680 I'm told again today, as someone said earlier in a 1:22:41.960 --> 1:22:46.760 text message, Donald Trump is the result of someone not 1:22:47.720 --> 1:22:52.439 continuing to kick the can down the road on three one, 1:22:52.600 --> 1:22:55.720 eight seven three. Plenty of news about today related to 1:22:55.920 --> 1:22:58.760 artificial intelligence or AI. Have you got involved in this? 1:22:58.920 --> 1:23:05.120 I wonder? The Prime Ministers visit the Seattle headquarters of Amazon, 1:23:05.840 --> 1:23:08.240 where he announced the tech giant is pledging to lift 1:23:08.280 --> 1:23:11.960 its total investment in Australia to twenty billion. I wonder 1:23:12.040 --> 1:23:18.240 what will power the data centers that Amazon intends to 1:23:18.360 --> 1:23:21.920 have here. Someone made the obvious point earlier in a 1:23:22.000 --> 1:23:26.040 text isn't funny? Look how when there's a war going 1:23:26.120 --> 1:23:31.479 on they seemingly target oil and gas storage. You never 1:23:31.600 --> 1:23:38.320 hear them talk about air raids over solar panels hashtag. 1:23:38.760 --> 1:23:41.640 You know the rest. The extra money will fund the 1:23:41.720 --> 1:23:44.120 expansion of its data centers in Sydney and Melbourne and 1:23:44.200 --> 1:23:47.800 underwrite two new solar farms in Victoria one in Queensland. 1:23:47.880 --> 1:23:51.280 They help generate the huge amounts of energy required because 1:23:51.360 --> 1:23:55.400 even when the sun doesn't shine, I'll hang on. And 1:23:55.479 --> 1:23:58.200 there was a story in the Nine Papers today saying 1:23:58.240 --> 1:24:01.920 the number of students caught cheating in HSC assessments in 1:24:01.960 --> 1:24:05.960 New South Wales has doubled over the past five years. Doubled. 1:24:07.680 --> 1:24:11.080 Data from the state's Education Standards Authority shows more than 1:24:11.120 --> 1:24:17.160 one thousand malepractice offenses recorded last year. Major reason kids 1:24:17.280 --> 1:24:23.200 using AI. We have AI here at two GVN for BC. 1:24:23.400 --> 1:24:27.040 I think what we use is called Gemini, Google's Gemini. 1:24:28.600 --> 1:24:33.479 It does make work a little easier and there's plenty 1:24:33.520 --> 1:24:36.559 of fun stuff you can do with AI, although I've 1:24:36.680 --> 1:24:40.800 never done that. Nelson, you wrote this, what fun stuff 1:24:40.840 --> 1:24:41.800 have you done with AI? 1:24:44.040 --> 1:24:44.200 Oh? 1:24:44.400 --> 1:24:50.760 Really? AI Tiedeman to wear a boob tube to the gym. 1:24:51.200 --> 1:24:54.800 Oh asking silly questions? Nice save. I don't know if 1:24:54.840 --> 1:24:59.799 you use AI, if you've had an experience, I imagine 1:25:00.080 --> 1:25:02.880 given its the beginning of the whole thing. It's just 1:25:03.000 --> 1:25:05.360 all very basic stuff that old make Google might have 1:25:05.439 --> 1:25:08.000 done in the old days, remember when Google was a 1:25:08.080 --> 1:25:13.919 thing back in the day. You type in best robot vacuum, 1:25:14.000 --> 1:25:16.320 I have one of them, hopeless. I'm sure there are 1:25:16.400 --> 1:25:18.880 good ones, and it gives you a list. The first 1:25:19.000 --> 1:25:22.960 doesn't are sponsored. They give you the same recommendation. Ah, 1:25:23.040 --> 1:25:25.640 it's a good one. Then you finally get down to 1:25:25.720 --> 1:25:29.280 the one that is probably good. Anyway, if you're an 1:25:29.280 --> 1:25:34.639 AI user, keep in touch. In fact, ask your AI 1:25:34.800 --> 1:25:39.960 thing to send me something. On three one eight seven 1:25:40.080 --> 1:25:42.320 three we mentioned yesterday it spent some time with Craig 1:25:42.360 --> 1:25:46.120 Bennett talking about Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys. So 1:25:46.240 --> 1:25:49.559 many wonderful songs. I don't know if you have a favorite. 1:25:49.840 --> 1:25:51.960 I didn't know that I did until I started to 1:25:52.000 --> 1:25:55.120 listen to all their songs again just a few days ago, 1:25:55.800 --> 1:25:59.479 and I came up with this. This is God only knows. 1:26:08.680 --> 1:26:12.120 That's the Beach Boys. God only knows now. Hans Zimmer, 1:26:12.560 --> 1:26:16.439 who was responsible for some great music of movie tracks, 1:26:16.960 --> 1:26:20.600 he considers that a perfect song. And if that's not 1:26:20.680 --> 1:26:24.280 good enough, Paul McCartney considers that song to be the 1:26:24.400 --> 1:26:28.640 greatest song ever written. It's a big rap, isn't it. 1:26:29.920 --> 1:26:33.679 Thank you, Kerry. I'm glad you enjoyed that as well. 1:26:34.200 --> 1:26:36.160 Good I Luke I went to the doctor, says Linda. 1:26:36.200 --> 1:26:39.000 The other day. She's using AI to take her notes 1:26:39.080 --> 1:26:45.040 during consultation. Okay, Ben says, I thought Artificial Intelligence was 1:26:45.080 --> 1:26:49.360 a song by John Kayle. I see it? Thank you, Ben, 1:26:49.880 --> 1:26:53.000 I nearly said it one three, one eight seven three 1:26:53.040 --> 1:26:53.679 get a Stewart. 1:26:55.520 --> 1:26:56.559 Oh good, here's it going? 1:26:56.760 --> 1:26:57.400 Yeah good mate? 1:26:57.400 --> 1:26:57.720 How are you? 1:26:59.160 --> 1:26:59.360 Yeah? 1:26:59.439 --> 1:26:59.599 Good? 1:26:59.640 --> 1:27:00.240 Good good. 1:27:00.560 --> 1:27:01.800 I just wanted to talk to a bit. 1:27:01.840 --> 1:27:04.519 I've been using AI since probably for about a couple 1:27:04.560 --> 1:27:07.800 of years now, and so I'm a podiotist. I run 1:27:07.840 --> 1:27:12.360 a business for myself and I use AI quite heavily. 1:27:13.360 --> 1:27:15.760 And from what you said, you're saying it's you know, 1:27:15.880 --> 1:27:17.240 you can sort of use it here and there for 1:27:17.320 --> 1:27:19.840 some of the basic stuff, but some of the things 1:27:19.840 --> 1:27:21.640 that you can actually do with it, it is it 1:27:21.800 --> 1:27:26.240 is just so elaborate. So I've got to do things 1:27:26.280 --> 1:27:28.799 like the NDIS reports and things like that the clients, 1:27:30.040 --> 1:27:32.840 and you can actually go in to if you've got 1:27:33.080 --> 1:27:35.200 the premium subscription, you can go in and set up 1:27:35.680 --> 1:27:36.920 what they call like a GPT. 1:27:37.960 --> 1:27:39.240 And AI is. 1:27:39.280 --> 1:27:43.800 Incredibly good at knowing basically more than you do, and 1:27:44.000 --> 1:27:46.000 so it knows all the correct jargon to use that 1:27:46.160 --> 1:27:48.160 kind of thing, and so you set it up in 1:27:48.200 --> 1:27:50.280 the back end with the right prompts and the right 1:27:51.040 --> 1:27:53.200 everything in the back end, and basically I can go 1:27:53.320 --> 1:27:56.240 in and write and report and it basically will prompt 1:27:56.280 --> 1:27:59.000 me what information it needs. I feed at all the 1:27:59.040 --> 1:28:01.040 correct information and it can. 1:28:00.920 --> 1:28:05.679 Write a very good report, very consistent among different types 1:28:05.720 --> 1:28:08.760 of reports, and follow a very specific pattern. And this 1:28:08.920 --> 1:28:12.080 is something that I use to help write my reports. 1:28:12.160 --> 1:28:15.040 And it's more consistent, more thorough and. 1:28:16.600 --> 1:28:17.840 How much time does it save you? 1:28:19.800 --> 1:28:23.080 Oh, look, doing a report like that if I was 1:28:23.200 --> 1:28:25.160 to do it myself. Now, admittedly I'm not very good 1:28:25.200 --> 1:28:29.200 at basically at writing right, so it never happening. So 1:28:29.400 --> 1:28:31.040 for me to do something like that it might take 1:28:31.080 --> 1:28:33.160 me about two hours to write a pretty decent report. 1:28:33.360 --> 1:28:33.519 Yeah. 1:28:33.600 --> 1:28:36.640 To use chat GPT, it took me a while to 1:28:36.720 --> 1:28:39.080 set up correctly, but once it's set up, I can 1:28:39.120 --> 1:28:40.920 do a report in about ten to fifteen minutes. 1:28:41.040 --> 1:28:41.240 Wow. 1:28:42.360 --> 1:28:44.519 Yeah. The part I was making stud was that I 1:28:44.640 --> 1:28:47.800 think people have not completely certainly not embraced it as 1:28:47.880 --> 1:28:51.400 much as you have. So for the majority of us 1:28:51.600 --> 1:28:57.400 who aren't writing these detailed reports, it's here's four pages, 1:28:57.880 --> 1:29:01.960 please make it two paragraphs. And I've tried that at work. 1:29:02.680 --> 1:29:05.760 I just think and I'm hopeless or I'm reluctant to 1:29:05.800 --> 1:29:09.200 cut too much stuff out. So when I get four 1:29:09.280 --> 1:29:12.200 pages into two paragraphs, there's too much missing. So I've 1:29:12.280 --> 1:29:13.920 just got to refine the way I use it. I 1:29:14.000 --> 1:29:17.800 think most people would be at the stage where they 1:29:17.880 --> 1:29:20.280 might give that a go, But to think that it 1:29:20.400 --> 1:29:25.599 can end up where you're using it is extraordinary. If 1:29:25.640 --> 1:29:29.360 you can turn two hours into ten minutes, then that 1:29:29.600 --> 1:29:32.519 means that you can probably help more people, and that 1:29:32.880 --> 1:29:35.160 makes you more productive. That's got to be a great thing. 1:29:36.560 --> 1:29:36.680 Oh. 1:29:36.840 --> 1:29:39.720 Look absolutely, and I mean look, it goes further than that. 1:29:39.880 --> 1:29:44.400 So I use a practice management system, and if you 1:29:44.520 --> 1:29:47.240 understand what an API is. So most of your software 1:29:47.280 --> 1:29:49.479 that you use, they have an API which back ends 1:29:49.640 --> 1:29:54.240 into your practice management system. And I actually use TOPT 1:29:54.520 --> 1:30:00.479 with no coding knowledge to make custom programs that heavily 1:30:00.520 --> 1:30:03.439 cuts down my administrative work. So I basically can back 1:30:03.479 --> 1:30:07.120 into the program it has as a like a what's 1:30:07.240 --> 1:30:10.320 a coding script is called Python, so it's just the language, 1:30:10.640 --> 1:30:12.840 and it's got a total webi front end, so it's 1:30:12.880 --> 1:30:15.599 like logging onto any web page and it looks great. 1:30:15.680 --> 1:30:18.720 And you can make these things that totally interact with 1:30:19.400 --> 1:30:21.559 the software that you use, pull out all the information 1:30:21.680 --> 1:30:23.960 that you need to manipulate all the data that you need. 1:30:24.479 --> 1:30:25.600 And something like that. 1:30:27.040 --> 1:30:28.920 One particular bit of software that I needed and it 1:30:29.040 --> 1:30:31.920 was more database management. But if ilder to do it manually, 1:30:32.000 --> 1:30:34.240 it takes six or seven hours, and that can do 1:30:34.320 --> 1:30:35.360 it in about five minutes. 1:30:35.520 --> 1:30:38.320 Wow, Well that's that's huge. That's huge, mate. I've got 1:30:38.400 --> 1:30:39.920 to go, but you I'm glad you rang and told 1:30:39.960 --> 1:30:42.880 me all that. That's remarkable. Nice to eat from Stewart, 1:30:43.240 --> 1:30:46.679 have a great day. On the other hand, Paul says Luke, 1:30:46.720 --> 1:30:49.200 I asked AI or Gemini for last night's a lot 1:30:49.240 --> 1:30:54.960 I number I got none. AI stuff you well, they 1:30:55.200 --> 1:30:59.400 last there poor but yeah, fair enough. It's eleven twenty nine. 1:31:00.120 --> 1:31:02.760 Some amendments made to the Family Law Act this week. 1:31:02.840 --> 1:31:05.680 They'll apply it to former couples who are about to 1:31:05.720 --> 1:31:09.120 commence or are at the start of divorce proceedings. Under 1:31:09.160 --> 1:31:11.519 the new law, judges will now play a role in 1:31:12.360 --> 1:31:16.400 deciding who keeps the family pet. The corps will assess 1:31:16.479 --> 1:31:19.880 factors around who actually cared for the pet, including who 1:31:20.000 --> 1:31:21.800 walked it, fed it, and took it to the vet. 1:31:22.040 --> 1:31:25.280 Means you can't just say the dog's mind because he 1:31:25.360 --> 1:31:28.080 paid the adoption fee or whatever. There's been a suite 1:31:28.160 --> 1:31:31.519 of other changes made as well, including new rules around 1:31:31.600 --> 1:31:36.360 property division, family violence, financial transparency. So what does this mean? 1:31:36.520 --> 1:31:41.280 Let's find out more. The practice director at Bruin, Abrahams 1:31:41.320 --> 1:31:45.680 and Barricat Family Lawyers, Katie barricatte joins me live on 1:31:46.040 --> 1:31:48.280 the line. Katie, thank you so much of your time, 1:31:49.280 --> 1:31:51.640 no problems, Luke, good to be here. Thank you. I 1:31:51.720 --> 1:31:55.120 don't imagine this is all about pets, but we probably 1:31:55.200 --> 1:31:57.720 need to start. Their pets will no longer be recognized 1:31:57.800 --> 1:32:02.280 merely as property, but as companion animals. Is that correct? 1:32:03.360 --> 1:32:08.080 That's correct. Yeah, you know, previously animals were just treated 1:32:08.120 --> 1:32:10.080 as if they were the same as a as a 1:32:10.120 --> 1:32:13.439 bank account or a piece of furniture. Now there's been 1:32:13.720 --> 1:32:16.840 this change, you mean that pets are really recognized to 1:32:16.880 --> 1:32:20.760 the important role they now playing in families. What it 1:32:20.800 --> 1:32:24.360 will mean is that a court, a family court can 1:32:24.439 --> 1:32:28.160 make orders for one party or another to have the 1:32:28.280 --> 1:32:29.559 care of that pet moving cars. 1:32:30.120 --> 1:32:34.599 Is is that something that's been long called for? I mean, 1:32:34.880 --> 1:32:38.160 you see this first star by don't so from you 1:32:38.320 --> 1:32:41.160 from more in form view. Is it something that comes 1:32:41.240 --> 1:32:41.559 up along? 1:32:42.240 --> 1:32:46.000 Look what comes It comes up pretty often and I'd 1:32:46.080 --> 1:32:47.840 say it's coming up, you know, more and more. I 1:32:47.920 --> 1:32:51.360 think post COVID, I think, you know, rising in pets 1:32:51.439 --> 1:32:54.760 in our in our communities is yeah, court, that's come 1:32:54.840 --> 1:32:55.439 up more and more. 1:32:56.120 --> 1:32:56.800 And I think that. 1:32:58.320 --> 1:33:02.000 We do see circumstances where pets really ship. Custody of 1:33:02.080 --> 1:33:04.880 pets is shared, and they might move with with kids 1:33:04.920 --> 1:33:08.960 between two households. That's not something that the court can 1:33:09.080 --> 1:33:12.400 make an order about. Now they simply can consider, you know, 1:33:12.479 --> 1:33:15.240 which is the better home for that pet to live with? 1:33:15.400 --> 1:33:15.920 Moving forward? 1:33:16.120 --> 1:33:21.200 Goodness me, tell to me about the changes regarding property 1:33:22.040 --> 1:33:25.120 division outside of the pet obviously, are there are there 1:33:25.200 --> 1:33:26.040 wider changes. 1:33:26.560 --> 1:33:27.200 Yeah, there are. 1:33:27.200 --> 1:33:30.120 Wider changes and they really they are quite significant in 1:33:30.280 --> 1:33:35.400 terms of particularly in relation to family violence. So what 1:33:35.840 --> 1:33:38.880 what the Parliament has really recognized now, I guess is 1:33:38.920 --> 1:33:42.880 the impact of family the economic impact of family violence. 1:33:43.400 --> 1:33:46.479 So when couples are looking at and when they might 1:33:46.560 --> 1:33:49.840 consult a lawyer like me as to what, you know, 1:33:49.920 --> 1:33:53.880 their property settlement should be, it's now mandatory that there's 1:33:53.920 --> 1:33:56.400 got to be a consideration of if there has been 1:33:56.479 --> 1:34:00.439 family violence and the economic impact of that on both 1:34:01.000 --> 1:34:04.559 party's ability to make contributions during their marriage and also 1:34:04.720 --> 1:34:06.360 moving forward how it impacts them. 1:34:06.720 --> 1:34:10.800 What about not paying child support? I think I read 1:34:10.840 --> 1:34:13.400 somewhere that might also count in all of this. 1:34:14.479 --> 1:34:17.600 Yeah, yeah, it will, and certainly there is you know, 1:34:17.760 --> 1:34:21.000 that's a really significant problem that we find in family 1:34:21.439 --> 1:34:25.360 law all the time. So you know, the family violence 1:34:25.760 --> 1:34:28.200 now is seen to be you know, economic abuse, so 1:34:28.680 --> 1:34:33.559 you know, restricting access to one party's you know, access 1:34:33.600 --> 1:34:36.280 to income bank accounts. 1:34:35.960 --> 1:34:39.240 Also their ability to work, their ability. 1:34:38.920 --> 1:34:42.720 To you know, take promotions as you know, throughout their relationship. 1:34:42.880 --> 1:34:47.639 Yeah, just general advice if I might on divorce, when 1:34:47.680 --> 1:34:52.560 should couples consult lawyers after separating. Is that is that 1:34:53.120 --> 1:34:56.439 when it's agreed that there should be a divorce, or 1:34:56.560 --> 1:34:59.639 prior to that, I imagine is better safer. 1:35:00.439 --> 1:35:02.839 Look for a lot of people, a lot of clients, 1:35:02.880 --> 1:35:05.160 I see, they might come in and have just one 1:35:05.240 --> 1:35:08.599 initial discussion with a lawyer very early on, and then 1:35:08.960 --> 1:35:11.360 you know, we can provide them with the information they 1:35:11.439 --> 1:35:13.920 need to then go and negotiate with their spouse in 1:35:13.960 --> 1:35:17.960 a very amicable way. I'd say the sooner the better, 1:35:18.280 --> 1:35:22.400 get that advice. Understand the Family Law Act, Understand you 1:35:22.479 --> 1:35:25.200 know your rights, and you know, for most people you'll 1:35:25.240 --> 1:35:28.599 then only need a lawyer to help you document an agreement. 1:35:29.120 --> 1:35:32.719 You know, something like only two percent of separating couples 1:35:32.760 --> 1:35:35.560 in Australia actually end up anywhere near a courtroom, so 1:35:36.280 --> 1:35:39.759 you know your best chance of avoiding court is probably 1:35:39.800 --> 1:35:41.160 getting the advice to need quickly. 1:35:41.680 --> 1:35:44.479 That's remarkable you're telling me, Just tell me that two 1:35:44.520 --> 1:35:45.200 percent figure. 1:35:45.240 --> 1:35:49.760 Again, only about two percent of separating couple end up 1:35:50.000 --> 1:35:53.200 within the in the family court. So the vast majority 1:35:53.240 --> 1:35:55.920 of people can manage to work it out, you know, 1:35:56.800 --> 1:36:01.000 with themselves or with lawyers assisting or a mediate but obviously, 1:36:01.320 --> 1:36:04.519 the family court and the cases that end up there 1:36:04.880 --> 1:36:06.639 are the ones that get a lot of press. They're 1:36:06.680 --> 1:36:08.640 the ones that take up, you know, a lot of 1:36:08.720 --> 1:36:11.400 a lawyer's time, but most people don't. 1:36:11.200 --> 1:36:11.760 Need to be there. 1:36:12.640 --> 1:36:14.479 And Katie, your listen wants me to ask you, at 1:36:14.520 --> 1:36:18.000 what point does a de facto relationship become involved in 1:36:18.360 --> 1:36:19.000 these matters? 1:36:20.880 --> 1:36:26.280 That's that's that's a tricky one. So well, these these 1:36:27.120 --> 1:36:30.760 these changes apply to the facto and married couples, so 1:36:30.960 --> 1:36:33.799 no difference there. So you know, if you're a victim 1:36:33.840 --> 1:36:37.000 of family violence in a de facto relationship, all these 1:36:37.080 --> 1:36:41.280 amendments are going to apply to you. The new changes 1:36:41.320 --> 1:36:42.599 around pets also apply. 1:36:42.960 --> 1:36:47.639 Yeah, the practice director at Bruin Abraham's and Barrickette Family Lawyers. 1:36:47.680 --> 1:36:50.519 By the way, they're online at ba B Law BAB 1:36:50.680 --> 1:36:54.120 Law dot com dot au bab b A b bab 1:36:54.240 --> 1:36:57.240 Law dot com dot au. Katie, thank you so much 1:36:57.280 --> 1:36:59.720 for your time and your expertise. Appreciate it very much. 1:37:00.080 --> 1:37:02.320 Thank you, good bit chat, have a a terrific day 1:37:02.360 --> 1:37:03.600 twenty five to midday. 1:37:07.360 --> 1:37:12.599 And now travel inspired thanks to Inspiring Vacations Award winning 1:37:12.720 --> 1:37:15.680 Hassel Free Travel with Ensuring Experts. 1:37:15.800 --> 1:37:19.880 Now, how about going to a place the sprawling wildernesses, 1:37:20.120 --> 1:37:25.080 jaw dropping scenery, vibrant cosmopolitan cities. If you answered yes 1:37:25.400 --> 1:37:30.040 that appeals to you, then it's Canada. The Great White North, 1:37:30.320 --> 1:37:32.720 as it's often known, truly has something for everyone. You 1:37:32.840 --> 1:37:38.040 can spot polar bears, save the delights of Toronto's or 1:37:38.160 --> 1:37:40.600 savor the delights of Toronto's because then I was in 1:37:40.640 --> 1:37:45.120 Toronto a little while back. How many years ago was 1:37:45.400 --> 1:37:52.599 nineteen o nineteen eighty, It doesn't matter, given they speak 1:37:52.640 --> 1:37:57.200 English and live in some parts French King Charles the 1:37:57.360 --> 1:38:01.639 monarch and center of their econ me exporting natural resources 1:38:01.880 --> 1:38:05.960 basically Australia with a bit more snow and a bit 1:38:06.080 --> 1:38:10.240 more nothing else. Our mates of Inspiring Vacations, who are 1:38:10.320 --> 1:38:13.960 responsor with this program, have plenty of amazing packages to 1:38:14.080 --> 1:38:18.240 provide you and your family with the ultimate Canadian experience, 1:38:18.760 --> 1:38:21.160 and given their prices are sweeter than a maple leaf. 1:38:21.800 --> 1:38:24.559 Well written. 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You've 1:38:55.720 --> 1:38:59.040 got the Canadian Rockies, got beans and just the National 1:38:59.200 --> 1:39:03.200 pass and like Louise, and then you've also got vibrant cities. 1:39:03.520 --> 1:39:09.240 So our eastern journeys will go to Toronto, Montreal, and Quebec, 1:39:09.400 --> 1:39:12.439 which is touching into French Canada. And then all of 1:39:12.520 --> 1:39:16.120 our western journeys will go to Vancouver, which is just 1:39:16.280 --> 1:39:21.080 a beautiful city. And then almost ninety percent of our 1:39:21.160 --> 1:39:25.400 troops will offer a cruise up the Alaska Inside Passage 1:39:25.640 --> 1:39:28.840 or all the way up to Denali's goodness. 1:39:28.960 --> 1:39:32.280 I'll tell you what. The wildlife we can't forget either. 1:39:33.320 --> 1:39:36.599 There are bears, not necessarily polar if you go far 1:39:36.720 --> 1:39:41.360 enough north. But when I was in Toronto some time ago, 1:39:41.520 --> 1:39:44.160 now it turns out I didn't see any bears. But 1:39:45.240 --> 1:39:47.559 their wildlife. We'd like to think we've got plenty to offer, 1:39:47.600 --> 1:39:51.759 and we certainly do, but they don't miss about in Canada, 1:39:51.840 --> 1:39:52.360 so to speak. 1:39:52.439 --> 1:39:54.040 Do they not one bit. 1:39:54.160 --> 1:39:56.720 I actually think you may find the occasional bet in 1:39:56.800 --> 1:40:00.639 eastern Canada, but the western side of Canada and Alaska 1:40:00.800 --> 1:40:04.160 is definitely where you're going through the wildlife. Bears, yes, 1:40:04.479 --> 1:40:10.760 don't go near them. You've got bears, deers, moose, bison. 1:40:11.040 --> 1:40:13.400 I'd love to see a bison. And then if you're 1:40:13.439 --> 1:40:15.840 going to head to somewhere like Vancouver Islands, and you've 1:40:15.880 --> 1:40:19.720 also got the sea life to look for and the 1:40:19.800 --> 1:40:22.280 bears hunting salmon, which I think would be a once 1:40:22.320 --> 1:40:24.240 in a lifetime opportunity to see. 1:40:24.439 --> 1:40:27.919 I agree. Tell us why a trip organized through Inspiring 1:40:28.080 --> 1:40:31.479 Vacations is the best way to see Canada and Alaska. 1:40:32.800 --> 1:40:35.439 Well, I've been to Canada quite a few times. I've 1:40:35.479 --> 1:40:36.240 lived in Canada. 1:40:36.479 --> 1:40:39.920 It's a big area, right, So what you want to. 1:40:39.920 --> 1:40:42.000 Do is to be able to see as much as 1:40:42.040 --> 1:40:46.240 you can without having to stress, right, And that's what 1:40:46.439 --> 1:40:49.720 touring is. It's about seeing more with less stress. Let 1:40:49.840 --> 1:40:52.360 us organize it all for you. Inspiring Vacations can do 1:40:52.439 --> 1:40:55.840 your flights and your touring. So from the minute you 1:40:55.960 --> 1:40:59.880 book to the minute you land back into Australia. Everything 1:41:00.120 --> 1:41:01.960 done for you. All you have to do is just 1:41:02.080 --> 1:41:03.559 turn up and have a good time. 1:41:03.880 --> 1:41:06.599 Yeah, well that's important. Hey when you reckon's the best 1:41:06.600 --> 1:41:07.000 time to go? 1:41:08.240 --> 1:41:11.360 Do you know what? Canada is actually a year round destination. 1:41:11.800 --> 1:41:15.000 The most popular time to go is from May till September, 1:41:15.320 --> 1:41:19.600 so that's covering spring, summer, and autumn, but you can 1:41:19.680 --> 1:41:22.759 also travel there in winter. You've mentioned the Polar Airs, 1:41:22.960 --> 1:41:25.840 so we do offer trips that go through the Polar Bears. 1:41:26.280 --> 1:41:29.519 We also have trips that see the Northern Lights, so 1:41:29.680 --> 1:41:32.479 you don't have to travel to Norway or Iceland or 1:41:32.560 --> 1:41:35.679 Europe to see the Northern art Lights. You can also 1:41:35.800 --> 1:41:37.920 put that in with your trip to Canada. 1:41:40.000 --> 1:41:44.439 Rocky Mountaineer rail experience is something I've read about and 1:41:44.520 --> 1:41:48.080 I imagine, with all that wilderness and the countryside to explore, 1:41:48.120 --> 1:41:49.439 that's got to be next level, doesn't it. 1:41:50.200 --> 1:41:50.519 It is. 1:41:50.720 --> 1:41:53.800 I've done it myself and it is definitely one of 1:41:53.880 --> 1:41:57.400 the highlights of my traveling days. 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And the people who wear 1:42:36.600 --> 1:42:39.200 it on the Rocky Mountaineer are experts and so they're 1:42:39.200 --> 1:42:41.400 giving you narrations throughout the day so you know where 1:42:41.439 --> 1:42:44.439 you're going. You're hearing the interesting facts about the area. 1:42:45.200 --> 1:42:47.320 And what a lot of people don't know is that 1:42:47.439 --> 1:42:49.960 you're actually just on the train during the day. You'll 1:42:50.000 --> 1:42:51.879 get off in the evening to stay in a hotel. 1:42:52.280 --> 1:42:55.600 Wow, that's good. So those glass time carriages are like 1:42:55.720 --> 1:43:00.280 a glass bottom boat upside down. That's the think that 1:43:00.400 --> 1:43:04.000 would be. Wow. Tell me about the deals that are 1:43:04.080 --> 1:43:05.880 on right now at Inspiring Vacations. 1:43:07.160 --> 1:43:09.920 So we have up to twenty percent off site site 1:43:10.040 --> 1:43:14.320 wide for our ender financial year sale. 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Earlier in 1:44:34.880 --> 1:44:38.679 the week, Monash IVF revealed that a patient in Melbourne 1:44:38.760 --> 1:44:43.040 had their own embryo mistakenly transferred back to them rather 1:44:43.160 --> 1:44:46.920 than one belonging to their partner, and it followed an 1:44:46.960 --> 1:44:50.959 incident in April where Monash implanted a patient in Brisbane 1:44:51.000 --> 1:44:56.640 with another woman's embryo in twenty twenty three. Now, I 1:44:56.760 --> 1:45:00.360 don't know how you deal with all of this must 1:45:00.439 --> 1:45:05.439 be just well, it's obvious to say awful, but it 1:45:05.600 --> 1:45:08.479 doesn't end here. I think I told you yesterday about 1:45:09.040 --> 1:45:11.760 a story in the Courier Mail that the you know, 1:45:11.920 --> 1:45:17.080 the outcomes can last for generations or can be felt 1:45:17.160 --> 1:45:21.200 for generations. So I wonder what's going on here? Is 1:45:21.280 --> 1:45:25.400 this a flaw and the process of mont actual let's say, 1:45:26.280 --> 1:45:31.240 or given the incident or the numbers for procedures that 1:45:31.280 --> 1:45:34.280 are undertaking that you know, we do we accept that 1:45:34.360 --> 1:45:38.679 there's going to be something goes wrong. Is the industry right? 1:45:40.080 --> 1:45:42.040 Does government need to step in here and do more? 1:45:42.160 --> 1:45:45.200 I simply don't know, which is why I'm delighted to 1:45:45.240 --> 1:45:50.679 say Doctor E. V. Kendall a bioethicist from Swinburne University 1:45:50.800 --> 1:45:53.240 joins me on the line. Evie, thank you so much 1:45:53.280 --> 1:45:57.479 for your time. Hy So, let's have a chat about 1:45:57.960 --> 1:46:03.680 what prospective parents understand as their rights. Do you think 1:46:03.880 --> 1:46:06.880 there'll be many people that witnesses or hear about this 1:46:07.080 --> 1:46:09.840 that might just reconsider IVF. 1:46:11.720 --> 1:46:13.840 I think it's certainly the case that some people are 1:46:13.920 --> 1:46:17.280 rethinking their plans if they haven't started that IVF journey, 1:46:17.800 --> 1:46:19.640 and I think part of that is they want to 1:46:19.720 --> 1:46:23.240 see the outcome of some of these reviews and investigations 1:46:23.320 --> 1:46:26.479 to have more confidence that their genetic material will be 1:46:26.600 --> 1:46:28.640 secure and that their treatment plans. 1:46:28.400 --> 1:46:29.120 Will be followed. 1:46:29.640 --> 1:46:31.719 For those who are already on the journey, of course, 1:46:31.800 --> 1:46:35.200 it's very discomforting because they're already in a situation where 1:46:35.200 --> 1:46:37.639 they might have a pregnancy or in fact a child, 1:46:38.240 --> 1:46:41.320 and they might be wondering, is this my genetic child? 1:46:42.040 --> 1:46:45.840 Yeah, they're really difficult questions. And for anyone who, as 1:46:45.880 --> 1:46:47.760 you point out and thank you Abe for saying that, 1:46:48.280 --> 1:46:51.679 that it's on this journey or has been on this journey, 1:46:52.120 --> 1:46:54.800 you know, we understand that this might be difficult to 1:46:54.840 --> 1:46:59.000 listen to, and I certainly take that on board. Does 1:46:59.040 --> 1:47:02.920 this open the way to a broader discussion about how 1:47:03.320 --> 1:47:07.040 we operate in this space, that there's enough checks and 1:47:07.160 --> 1:47:10.120 balances that there needs to be more, that government perhaps 1:47:10.200 --> 1:47:13.320 has been somewhat less a fair what's you take on 1:47:13.400 --> 1:47:13.720 all of that? 1:47:15.160 --> 1:47:17.519 Well, at present, a lot of the regulation is at 1:47:17.560 --> 1:47:22.040 the state level, so we've got inconsistent regulation and legislation 1:47:22.240 --> 1:47:25.360 regarding IVS provision state by state, and I think a 1:47:25.400 --> 1:47:28.560 lot of people would rather see a federal regulator so 1:47:28.680 --> 1:47:31.200 that we have consistency and we have confidence that the 1:47:31.280 --> 1:47:34.960 protocols are correct and that they are being followed consistently. 1:47:35.680 --> 1:47:37.800 And I think for a lot of people who have 1:47:38.040 --> 1:47:41.519 children who are conceived through IVS, they're now faced with 1:47:41.680 --> 1:47:44.880 that decision of do they go for a DNA test? 1:47:45.280 --> 1:47:48.640 How do they actually sort of move forward with the 1:47:48.800 --> 1:47:52.240 uncertainty that these kinds of media stories are bringing. 1:47:52.080 --> 1:47:52.519 Up to them. 1:47:54.040 --> 1:47:57.320 Should they not be DNA testing as a result of 1:47:57.400 --> 1:47:58.120 each procedure? 1:47:58.280 --> 1:48:02.120 Is that how we're doing things to be that could 1:48:02.160 --> 1:48:05.519 be overdoing things in general. But I think it's probably 1:48:05.880 --> 1:48:09.200 the case that quite a few couples and individuals who 1:48:09.240 --> 1:48:12.680 have used these services might be looking for that reassurance 1:48:13.080 --> 1:48:15.439 and some may feel that a DNA test is one 1:48:15.520 --> 1:48:18.400 method of achieving that, and keeping in mind that a 1:48:18.479 --> 1:48:20.800 lot of the chatter online has focused on it's not 1:48:21.000 --> 1:48:23.920 just genetics that makes a family, and of course that's true. 1:48:24.400 --> 1:48:27.000 Genetics is very important for a lot of people because 1:48:27.439 --> 1:48:30.759 they actually want to have a child that is sharing 1:48:30.920 --> 1:48:34.080 the heritage of say a mother and a father, or 1:48:34.240 --> 1:48:37.400 obviously in the same sex couple. Worth looking at people 1:48:37.439 --> 1:48:40.519 who want to actually both be involved in the creation 1:48:40.600 --> 1:48:43.719 of that child. They want the resemblance to family members, 1:48:44.439 --> 1:48:47.120 the sort of narrative of you have your grandmother's eyes. 1:48:47.560 --> 1:48:50.160 That has a lot of social weight to it. But 1:48:50.400 --> 1:48:54.360 medically it's also very important because genetics is related to 1:48:54.760 --> 1:48:59.080 your family history, predispositions, disease risk. So it's not just 1:48:59.160 --> 1:49:01.960 about kinship, and it's not just about resemblance. It is 1:49:02.040 --> 1:49:04.280 also about your medical history being accurate. 1:49:04.640 --> 1:49:08.440 Gosh, that is such a good point. Tell me about embryologists. 1:49:08.479 --> 1:49:12.479 If I've pronounced that correctly, I'm told they're currently they're 1:49:12.560 --> 1:49:13.760 not registered. Is that right? 1:49:14.680 --> 1:49:18.120 That is my understanding. Yes, So most people providing these 1:49:18.200 --> 1:49:21.360 kinds of services, like the health practitioners, doctors, et cetera, 1:49:21.479 --> 1:49:24.920 they are all registered that embryologists are not. There is 1:49:25.120 --> 1:49:27.800 a lot of talk about regarding whether we should change 1:49:27.840 --> 1:49:29.120 that situation at presence. 1:49:29.400 --> 1:49:31.960 Yeah, and but again if you don't mammy asking an 1:49:32.000 --> 1:49:35.120 embryologist does in this whole process. 1:49:34.760 --> 1:49:38.360 What role do they play, Well, that's a laboratory position, 1:49:38.600 --> 1:49:42.080 so essentially they're going to be responsible for handling some 1:49:42.200 --> 1:49:46.880 of these things, grading embryos, et cetera. And one of 1:49:46.960 --> 1:49:49.240 the problems that we have with the IVF sector is 1:49:49.320 --> 1:49:53.080 it does straddle a sort of scientific process that people 1:49:53.200 --> 1:49:57.040 can pay for and a healthcare practice. So we are 1:49:57.160 --> 1:50:01.800 dealing with people's bodies their health biological systems, but what 1:50:01.960 --> 1:50:05.520 we're actually buying and selling is the process and the expertise. 1:50:05.880 --> 1:50:10.280 So we're definitely not purchasing embryos. We're definitely not purchasing children. 1:50:11.320 --> 1:50:16.160 But because pregnancy is not a disease and infertility, many 1:50:16.280 --> 1:50:19.560 argue is not a disease either, and IVS as a 1:50:19.800 --> 1:50:23.720 process does not actually cure infertility either. So you may 1:50:23.800 --> 1:50:26.760 go into the clinic infertile and there's a process that 1:50:26.880 --> 1:50:31.000 you can pay for that might circumvent your infertility such 1:50:31.080 --> 1:50:33.920 that you can be pregnant and ideally have a child 1:50:34.000 --> 1:50:37.280 that you want. But you leave that clinic just as 1:50:37.360 --> 1:50:40.200 infertile as as when you got in, So it's not 1:50:40.360 --> 1:50:43.880 curing that infertility. So it's not really a treatment. It 1:50:44.040 --> 1:50:46.120 is a service to circumvent something. 1:50:47.200 --> 1:50:50.320 Doctor E. V. Kendall from Swinburne University, thank you for 1:50:50.400 --> 1:50:53.080 helping me understand all of this. I appreciate your time. 1:50:53.400 --> 1:50:53.680 Thank you. 1:50:54.080 --> 1:51:13.280 All right, four minutes to midday Cross Australia. It's back 1:51:13.360 --> 1:51:19.080 to weekends. We'll look grant gooday, thank you so much 1:51:19.120 --> 1:51:22.320 for tuning in. We've got there Sunday afternoon on the 1:51:22.400 --> 1:51:25.720 fifteenth of June. I had a very confronting experience during 1:51:25.800 --> 1:51:29.320 the news. Yeah. Look, I don't often just stay in 1:51:29.360 --> 1:51:33.439 the room. I actually leave the room and just well, 1:51:33.479 --> 1:51:35.639 to be honest with you, I see what the other 1:51:35.720 --> 1:51:38.639 broadcasters here have been sent for free through the week, 1:51:38.680 --> 1:51:40.320 and if there's something I like, I just take it. 1:51:40.960 --> 1:51:43.760 It's an unwritten rule here. I've got all sorts of 1:51:43.840 --> 1:51:46.320 things over the years. I remember walking to Ben's office 1:51:46.360 --> 1:51:50.479 fine and walking out with a BMW that was not 1:51:50.600 --> 1:51:53.840 on the ear yet. Are we what right? Are damn it? 1:51:54.840 --> 1:51:57.000 We've got the winter wheel happening in two GB. I 1:51:57.120 --> 1:52:00.519 understand this week and people win stuff with the winter wheel? 1:52:00.640 --> 1:52:03.160 Is that right? People win stuff with the well they 1:52:03.280 --> 1:52:05.400 put it right next to my desk and guess what, 1:52:06.840 --> 1:52:11.080 no winter wheel on the weekend. That's they're provoking me, 1:52:11.880 --> 1:52:14.880 in fact, that they're suggesting that I might just lose it, 1:52:15.040 --> 1:52:16.840 in order that they could say, ah, you've lost it. 1:52:16.960 --> 1:52:19.919 See Lada Powell, I know what you're up to management 1:52:20.000 --> 1:52:24.760 here joke bloody winter will but on the weekend sort 1:52:24.760 --> 1:52:28.800 of a clown show? Is this place once again? We're 1:52:28.840 --> 1:52:29.360 not on? Are are? 1:52:29.439 --> 1:52:29.479 We? 1:52:29.800 --> 1:52:31.479 Just to be sure because this is going to get 1:52:31.520 --> 1:52:33.080 me into deep you know what I like to core. 1:52:33.280 --> 1:52:36.479 I'm not going to say that. Plenty of news about today, 1:52:36.520 --> 1:52:38.160 we'll get them. We get into Jim Haynes at a 1:52:38.200 --> 1:52:43.120 moment or two. Do people send me interesting texts? Not 1:52:43.280 --> 1:52:46.000 all of them? Well, I mean they're not they're not 1:52:46.960 --> 1:52:49.720 nasty towards me, but they are to other things that 1:52:49.880 --> 1:52:55.040 perhaps here from time to time. Luke, we went on. 1:52:55.360 --> 1:52:57.960 This is one of the nice ones from Mary. Hello Mary. 1:52:58.680 --> 1:53:01.920 We went on the gold Leaf Rocky Mountaineer trip a 1:53:01.960 --> 1:53:04.080 few years back. We were desperate to see a bear. 1:53:05.640 --> 1:53:08.000 When we went to the lower deck to have lunch, 1:53:08.160 --> 1:53:11.120 we heard a lot of excitement upstairs. Well, don't really 1:53:11.160 --> 1:53:14.160 tell me about that. I hang on. When we returned, 1:53:14.200 --> 1:53:17.599 they excitedly told us they'd seen a bear. They'd taken 1:53:17.640 --> 1:53:19.439 a picture of the bear on a postcard, and no 1:53:19.560 --> 1:53:23.200 real bears scene for the whole trip. Ah, what a disappointment. 1:53:23.920 --> 1:53:26.240 I'd be liking to go there and see. Oh you 1:53:26.360 --> 1:53:30.599 bring the window wheel in. Let's give away some prizes. Management, 1:53:30.680 --> 1:53:33.680 hope you got your check book handy weekend. Blake's going 1:53:33.760 --> 1:53:37.000 to give away money. Just bring Greg Burns to say, 1:53:37.120 --> 1:53:39.120 can you turn the radio on? He's going to love this. 1:53:39.560 --> 1:53:41.120 So this is the thing, sorry, this is the two 1:53:41.200 --> 1:53:43.600 GB thing. Is it happening in Brisbane as well? We 1:53:43.720 --> 1:53:48.200 don't know see that it's called the winter Wheel. Actually 1:53:48.280 --> 1:53:55.240 tell Luke Davis, oh you've won number three. Do we 1:53:55.320 --> 1:53:56.760 get someone to ring and I just give them one 1:53:56.760 --> 1:54:00.720 of these prizes. There's a couple of grand programs here. 1:54:01.040 --> 1:54:02.920 I'll spin it up until I can give someone two 1:54:02.960 --> 1:54:08.800 and a half grand, fifteen hundred, that'll do, okay. The 1:54:08.880 --> 1:54:15.000 winner is l Grant phone number oh four. I think 1:54:15.040 --> 1:54:18.719 I'm silly, do you not that silly? Anyway? That starts tomorrow. 1:54:18.760 --> 1:54:20.679 It'll be great Ben, I'll give away a couple of grands. 1:54:20.680 --> 1:54:22.760 Then you'll hear a thing. Oh how good are you? 1:54:22.880 --> 1:54:23.040 Ben? 1:54:23.120 --> 1:54:25.760 I love you. It gave me two thousand yay, I 1:54:25.880 --> 1:54:28.920 love TWGV and the winter will not on the weekend. 1:54:30.280 --> 1:54:32.440 Now I'm almost giving a reason not to listen. Please 1:54:32.480 --> 1:54:34.280 don't do that. I want to do this a bit longer. 1:54:34.840 --> 1:54:38.480 I know I'm getting on. But if I discourage you 1:54:38.560 --> 1:54:42.600 from listening because management is too tight to give you 1:54:42.680 --> 1:54:47.640 stuff for nothing, it's all about ratings for me, call 1:54:47.760 --> 1:54:50.840 me shallow. I don't even jack, and you don't have 1:54:50.920 --> 1:54:56.880 to anyway. That's it starts tomorrow, Winter will Let's give 1:54:56.880 --> 1:55:03.880 away some more money here. A lucky listener is seven 1:55:03.960 --> 1:55:09.120 hundred and fifty bucks. All right, El Grant phone number 1:55:09.200 --> 1:55:13.920 zero four. I think I'm silly now, Jim Haynes in 1:55:13.960 --> 1:55:16.600 a moment seems now I'm going to jump from that 1:55:16.800 --> 1:55:21.400 whatever that was, to something serious, which we've done enough 1:55:21.480 --> 1:55:24.600 serious stuff we have, haven't we? Now, if you've been 1:55:24.640 --> 1:55:27.720 in a movie, you've been to a movie theater, if 1:55:27.760 --> 1:55:30.000 you've had pictures of you or your house and a 1:55:30.080 --> 1:55:34.360 movie or anything to do with Australian movies. One three, 1:55:34.440 --> 1:55:36.320 one eight seven three. Jim Haynes is next. 1:55:36.800 --> 1:55:41.879 I'm Australia. I rode with Clancy, I flew with Smithy, 1:55:42.680 --> 1:55:47.959 I sailed with Cook, I trecked with Kidman, explored with Morson, 1:55:48.680 --> 1:55:53.760 I held Kakoda, I held to Brook, gamers Ned Kelly 1:55:54.600 --> 1:55:55.800 and Janda Morrel. 1:55:56.720 --> 1:55:59.560 I am the sound of what did you redo? 1:56:00.720 --> 1:56:05.080 I am Australia. I'm silver stars on a flag that's 1:56:05.160 --> 1:56:05.720 true blue. 1:56:06.120 --> 1:56:09.440 Yeah. But Sunday Avo, it's Jim Haynes's time. We've been 1:56:09.520 --> 1:56:15.520 talking about movies, it seems for quite some time. That's because, ah, well, 1:56:15.640 --> 1:56:17.600 we get carried away with people that want to ring 1:56:17.720 --> 1:56:20.760 and share their experiences and we love that. And we 1:56:20.880 --> 1:56:24.480 continue our chat on Australia going to the flicks because 1:56:24.960 --> 1:56:27.240 it's true. As I say, good afternoon, Jim, it's true. 1:56:27.360 --> 1:56:30.400 Isn't it to say that we are pioneers in this space? 1:56:30.640 --> 1:56:37.000 We certainly were and still are a fantastic history of 1:56:37.720 --> 1:56:42.200 Australia in movies, but we also consumed the movies more 1:56:42.240 --> 1:56:45.880 than anybody else outside of the USA. We were great 1:56:46.000 --> 1:56:50.440 moviegoers and as you say, there were lots of movies 1:56:50.560 --> 1:56:53.040 made here and we're just looking for people with the 1:56:53.200 --> 1:56:56.880 experience of being an extra. I've got a friend who 1:56:57.040 --> 1:57:00.480 does a lot of extra work, and our friend Sindon 1:57:00.560 --> 1:57:03.040 too is another one who does a lot of extra work. 1:57:03.400 --> 1:57:06.360 And they were telling me that, you know, in the 1:57:06.440 --> 1:57:09.640 movie Australia, there's a ship pulls out from the key 1:57:09.760 --> 1:57:12.880 and there's this long shot of all the people you know, 1:57:13.200 --> 1:57:18.480 standing waving them goodbye. And this particular friend of mine, Nick, 1:57:19.280 --> 1:57:21.480 he said he was in it, I think four different 1:57:21.560 --> 1:57:24.080 times in the same scene. He just had a gou 1:57:24.080 --> 1:57:26.160 and put a different uniform on and he was a sailor. 1:57:26.320 --> 1:57:28.440 Oh wow, he was a sailor and a soldier than 1:57:28.760 --> 1:57:31.840 an air force and it was all in that same scene. 1:57:32.560 --> 1:57:35.120 If you've you know, it's a world we don't know 1:57:35.240 --> 1:57:37.839 about if we've never done it, the world of the extras. 1:57:37.880 --> 1:57:38.360 What's it like? 1:57:38.680 --> 1:57:43.040 What about playing an inanimate object like in number ninety 1:57:43.120 --> 1:57:50.440 six being well, let's call it an ottoman. Yes, that 1:57:50.480 --> 1:57:54.760 wouldn't be easy. No, no, it wouldn't. Thanks for support there. 1:57:55.760 --> 1:57:57.040 I'm not sure where you go. 1:57:57.680 --> 1:58:01.000 I'm kind of glad now those that know where I 1:58:01.160 --> 1:58:04.360 was going. Thank you for move Did you right on? 1:58:04.680 --> 1:58:05.800 Did you have to stand still with? 1:58:07.800 --> 1:58:10.520 Sorry? How are you giving away your package. 1:58:10.600 --> 1:58:12.880 Yes, yes, we've got Luke's Wheel. 1:58:13.720 --> 1:58:14.320 No we din't. 1:58:14.360 --> 1:58:17.200 We don't need a wheel, We don't need this show, 1:58:17.560 --> 1:58:20.600 just just ring in and with the answers too that 1:58:20.760 --> 1:58:26.360 weren't answered yesterday last week. And one was the science 1:58:26.400 --> 1:58:28.840 fiction movie that was made in Brisbane. The some of 1:58:28.920 --> 1:58:33.760 the locations were University of Technology, Queensland University, the William 1:58:33.880 --> 1:58:37.160 Jolly Bridge and a factory in Pink and Bar, good 1:58:37.200 --> 1:58:40.960 old pink and Bar and Churchy which, for those who 1:58:41.040 --> 1:58:44.040 don't live in Brisbane is the Church of England Grammar School, 1:58:44.160 --> 1:58:47.720 very famous school, right, And a movie was made using 1:58:47.760 --> 1:58:50.840 all those locations. It was about a sort of superhero. 1:58:51.320 --> 1:58:53.560 If you know the answer, you can win a package. 1:58:53.640 --> 1:58:56.879 That's the perhaps on Center Metal and a couple of CDs. 1:58:57.720 --> 1:59:00.200 And the other one was made on the Gold Carts 1:59:00.480 --> 1:59:03.480 and it's I love this. I love this whole series 1:59:04.080 --> 1:59:07.760 as books and movies. But it begins this movie. Some 1:59:07.960 --> 1:59:09.800 kids are looking at a painting of a ship on 1:59:09.840 --> 1:59:12.960 a wall. Suddenly it comes alive. The sea comes into 1:59:13.000 --> 1:59:16.240 the room and they end up in the fabled land 1:59:17.000 --> 1:59:20.240 on the Australian Gold Coast. So there and the one 1:59:20.440 --> 1:59:23.760 for particularly for Sidney. 1:59:23.840 --> 1:59:24.760 This is or for anybody. 1:59:26.160 --> 1:59:31.000 Alvin Purple was the highest grossing Australian movie ever when 1:59:31.040 --> 1:59:33.680 it came out in nineteen seventy three. It didn't get 1:59:33.760 --> 1:59:36.480 very good reviews, but everyone went to see it. 1:59:36.800 --> 1:59:38.840 Was it rude? It was very rude. 1:59:38.920 --> 1:59:39.600 It was rude. 1:59:39.760 --> 1:59:42.000 That's why it was rude. And people were in the 1:59:42.120 --> 1:59:42.960 nude And. 1:59:45.200 --> 1:59:50.000 We talked about the movie. But what record we broke 1:59:50.120 --> 1:59:54.160 the record of another movie from nineteen sixty six. What 1:59:54.600 --> 1:59:58.880 was the movie that held the record for an Australian 1:59:58.960 --> 2:00:02.040 made movie and the amount of money it had made 2:00:02.400 --> 2:00:04.680 and that record was broken by Album Purple. If you 2:00:04.760 --> 2:00:08.040 know the name of the other movie, let us know. 2:00:08.160 --> 2:00:10.440 And if you've been an extra in any of those 2:00:10.760 --> 2:00:14.080 movies or any any others at all, just to give 2:00:14.160 --> 2:00:15.760 us a call, give us your experience. 2:00:16.040 --> 2:00:18.720 Nice. One one three, one eight seven three is the number? 2:00:18.760 --> 2:00:21.000 One three, one eight seven three. Please. That'll leave it 2:00:21.080 --> 2:00:22.600 to the end, because then we get a million callse 2:00:22.640 --> 2:00:24.360 we go, oh buddy, how we'll go? No time, which 2:00:24.440 --> 2:00:26.560 is my fault. But one three, one eight seven three 2:00:26.680 --> 2:00:31.240 hop on cinemas. Let's talk about some of those you 2:00:31.360 --> 2:00:34.960 and I discussed at one point. I think the Winter Garden, 2:00:35.080 --> 2:00:38.120 which is at Rose Bay. I'm sure that's where I 2:00:38.240 --> 2:00:43.160 went often as as a kid, certainly. And then there 2:00:43.280 --> 2:00:46.440 was village of Double Bay. I'm going back away now. 2:00:47.080 --> 2:00:50.520 And then finally there was something at Bondai Junction when 2:00:50.600 --> 2:00:53.880 Wondai Junction got done up and David Jones was in 2:00:53.960 --> 2:00:55.720 the same building. I forget what the name of that 2:00:55.840 --> 2:00:58.360 theater was or what that complex world might have been 2:00:58.400 --> 2:01:01.440 Greater Union, but I mean something else hot I don't know. 2:01:01.640 --> 2:01:05.560 But the wonderful old standalone cinemas in the suburbs, you 2:01:05.640 --> 2:01:09.000 know they Randwick, what is it at Randwick? The Ritz 2:01:09.080 --> 2:01:11.320 the Ritz yep and that's it. That and the Sydney 2:01:11.400 --> 2:01:14.680 Film Festival uses the Rits. It's they have viewings there. 2:01:16.280 --> 2:01:19.880 It's a great little spot. It's at a place called 2:01:19.920 --> 2:01:24.480 the Spot in Randwick. But there's another one which fascinates me. 2:01:24.760 --> 2:01:26.880 And we started to talk about this, but then, as 2:01:26.920 --> 2:01:29.320 you said, we had so many calls. There were three 2:01:29.600 --> 2:01:33.480 cinemas in Mascot. In the suburb of Mascot there was 2:01:33.480 --> 2:01:37.080 a Botany Empire which was beautiful old Art Deco and 2:01:37.160 --> 2:01:40.440 they knocked it down, of course. But in Mascot there 2:01:40.480 --> 2:01:44.240 were three one still exists and it's in Gardener's Road, 2:01:44.280 --> 2:01:46.800 and I have no idea what it looks like inside, 2:01:46.880 --> 2:01:50.400 but it looks very derelict outside. It's called the Marina 2:01:51.080 --> 2:01:54.440 and it's still there. And if anyone knows what the 2:01:54.560 --> 2:01:56.800 story is and if it's what they do with it 2:01:56.920 --> 2:01:58.280 or what they're going to do, I don't know. But 2:01:58.400 --> 2:02:01.560 it's still there. And there was another one on the 2:02:01.640 --> 2:02:05.640 corner and that's where the Tenpin Bowling is now, and 2:02:05.880 --> 2:02:08.680 that was called the Rosebury. Now that was interesting. But 2:02:08.880 --> 2:02:12.040 then down further towards Mascot Shops was the Ascot. 2:02:12.400 --> 2:02:12.520 Now. 2:02:12.600 --> 2:02:15.160 They were all owned by the same family, and what 2:02:15.280 --> 2:02:17.880 they used to do was they'd show the same movie 2:02:17.960 --> 2:02:21.040 at the Ascot and the Marina, and they would switch 2:02:21.120 --> 2:02:24.640 the reels, so, you know, they'd say, they'd have Abbot 2:02:24.680 --> 2:02:28.360 and Costello on first, and at the other cinema they'd 2:02:28.440 --> 2:02:30.880 have you know, Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis on first, 2:02:30.920 --> 2:02:34.480 and then they'd switch them over on the same night. 2:02:34.720 --> 2:02:37.040 Because people were going to the cinema so often. These 2:02:37.120 --> 2:02:40.960 weren't really big cinemas like the Winter Garden held two. 2:02:40.960 --> 2:02:44.120 Thousand, two thousand. I just can't remember being that bad. 2:02:44.720 --> 2:02:48.520 It was an amazing Why is it famous, the Windergarten. 2:02:48.960 --> 2:02:52.520 It's famous for being the second, but the first in 2:02:52.680 --> 2:03:00.400 Sydney cinema to have sound showed the first sound it had. 2:03:00.720 --> 2:03:03.520 I've got the name here of the system that they used. 2:03:04.080 --> 2:03:08.280 It was of course something spectrographic. Here it is the 2:03:08.400 --> 2:03:12.520 first public screening of a talkie in Sydney was the 2:03:12.600 --> 2:03:18.000 Windgarden and it used the ray coophone sound system right, 2:03:18.280 --> 2:03:21.280 And it was the tenth of June nineteen twenty nine, 2:03:21.320 --> 2:03:23.640 and they didn't have the Australian record because the week 2:03:23.760 --> 2:03:26.720 before a cinema in rock Hampton had shown it, so 2:03:27.320 --> 2:03:30.320 but certainly the first in Sydney. Now, the weird thing 2:03:30.400 --> 2:03:34.160 about these theaters in Mascot, just very quick, was that 2:03:34.320 --> 2:03:38.720 the Rosebery was sort of a reserve, the Rosebery Theater 2:03:38.760 --> 2:03:40.960 which was in between the Marina and the Ascot and 2:03:41.120 --> 2:03:43.600 they were all owned by the same same family and 2:03:44.080 --> 2:03:47.760 if the other two filled up on Saturday night, then 2:03:47.800 --> 2:03:50.080 they would open the Rosebury and show the same film 2:03:50.120 --> 2:03:53.240 there as well. Three cinemas in one suburb if anyone 2:03:53.320 --> 2:03:55.760 has memories of that. And the building is still there 2:03:57.000 --> 2:03:59.360 but it's now part of the Bowling Alley. 2:03:59.680 --> 2:04:02.080 Right, Glenn's on the line from Brisbane. 2:04:02.120 --> 2:04:05.440 Hello Glenn, Yeah, Hi Louk, how are you're going? 2:04:05.520 --> 2:04:07.560 Good mate? Thank you for calling. You know the movie 2:04:07.640 --> 2:04:07.840 do you? 2:04:09.080 --> 2:04:11.480 I think so? It was Fastscape, wasn't it? 2:04:12.240 --> 2:04:14.720 And then it went broke here and then they took 2:04:14.760 --> 2:04:15.520 it to America and. 2:04:15.560 --> 2:04:17.760 It took off or vice versa. 2:04:18.040 --> 2:04:21.280 Oh okay, No, that wasn't the one I was thinking of. 2:04:21.560 --> 2:04:24.560 But did they make that around those locations? 2:04:25.600 --> 2:04:25.800 Yeah? 2:04:25.920 --> 2:04:27.240 Yeah, they made it in Brisbane. 2:04:27.520 --> 2:04:31.520 Okay, great, well look we'll get your name. Yeah, and 2:04:31.760 --> 2:04:35.040 I've got lots of packages, so that's great info. But 2:04:35.200 --> 2:04:36.760 it's not the one. The one I'm looking for is 2:04:36.840 --> 2:04:39.440 sort of a comic superhero. 2:04:39.800 --> 2:04:42.880 Okay, okay, okay, well all right, Next up, let's go 2:04:43.120 --> 2:04:46.160 to Kathy in Sydney. 2:04:46.240 --> 2:04:49.640 Hi, Kathy, Hello, Now I've got it wrong. I thought 2:04:49.680 --> 2:04:52.280 you were after the best gracing movie. I was going 2:04:52.320 --> 2:04:55.040 to say, waiting, right, that's certainly not a comedy. 2:04:55.680 --> 2:04:59.640 No, it wasn't a comedy, and I want you people 2:04:59.760 --> 2:05:02.560 to get give us. Somebody else said Wake in Friday. 2:05:02.560 --> 2:05:05.120 A very scary movie and interesting for me because I 2:05:05.240 --> 2:05:07.400 was living out there at the time where it was filmed. 2:05:07.800 --> 2:05:10.320 It was actually involved in the in the kangaroo hunt 2:05:10.400 --> 2:05:13.000 scene because I was an honorary ranger on Kinchig National 2:05:13.080 --> 2:05:17.560 Park at the time. And yeah, and the funny thing 2:05:17.600 --> 2:05:20.880 about Wake in Fright was they had a you know, 2:05:21.240 --> 2:05:25.000 a red carpet opening of the movie in Broken Hill 2:05:25.080 --> 2:05:29.320 and it was let's say, it wasn't particularly kind to 2:05:29.560 --> 2:05:34.200 country people. It was all about the horrible things that 2:05:34.240 --> 2:05:37.880 happened in the bush and people sort of didn't quite 2:05:37.960 --> 2:05:38.200 get it. 2:05:38.360 --> 2:05:43.360 But anyway, thank you for calling Kathy pat High. Are 2:05:43.440 --> 2:05:46.120 you really well? What can you tell me? 2:05:46.240 --> 2:05:49.920 Class? Well, when I was a girl, I lived at 2:05:50.880 --> 2:05:54.320 used to be Blara now it'swand Night Junction, and we 2:05:54.440 --> 2:05:57.600 were in Grafton Street, which was parallel to Oxford Street. 2:05:57.920 --> 2:06:00.839 At Oxford Street when I was young, had a pictures 2:06:00.880 --> 2:06:04.600 here to call the Regal, which became the Metro. Opposite 2:06:04.680 --> 2:06:08.640 that was the Coronet, and back and along Brontie Road 2:06:08.720 --> 2:06:09.960 on the way that BRONDI. 2:06:09.760 --> 2:06:11.520 Was the start, isn't that? 2:06:12.600 --> 2:06:15.200 And then there was the one that's still there. I 2:06:15.280 --> 2:06:22.240 think it's still there, upper wallar in Oxford Street. I 2:06:22.320 --> 2:06:23.920 don't know if that's still there enough. 2:06:24.400 --> 2:06:28.480 It's certain it's a sign of how movie mad we were. 2:06:28.880 --> 2:06:32.240 You know that there were all those cinemas in that 2:06:32.720 --> 2:06:35.240 in that small area as well as the Winter Garden, 2:06:35.320 --> 2:06:39.960 which you know was huge. So yeah, we were great moviegoers. 2:06:40.200 --> 2:06:43.400 And if you had memories of cinemas that are still 2:06:43.480 --> 2:06:47.240 there or that aren't still there, just yeah, tell us 2:06:47.280 --> 2:06:47.839 your favorites. 2:06:48.160 --> 2:06:50.920 Thank you, Pat very much indeed for calling Lourie. 2:06:52.920 --> 2:07:01.480 Hey, yeah, was by Johnny the movie call They're a 2:07:01.600 --> 2:07:02.160 Weird Mob. 2:07:02.440 --> 2:07:06.400 That certainly was. And it had an Italian movie star 2:07:06.560 --> 2:07:13.840 who came out to Walter Kiari Walter. Yeah, yeah, he 2:07:14.000 --> 2:07:16.200 was a big star in Italy. He came out here. 2:07:16.560 --> 2:07:19.280 Made the movie as you said, right rightly said. It 2:07:19.440 --> 2:07:22.080 was by John Ogrady and a very popular book at 2:07:22.120 --> 2:07:24.240 the time they made the movie. It was the biggest 2:07:24.400 --> 2:07:27.640 grossing Australian made movie until Alvin Purple. 2:07:27.840 --> 2:07:30.440 There you are, Laurie, don't hang up, made travel safely. 2:07:31.000 --> 2:07:33.840 I can hear the road noise there and we'll make 2:07:33.880 --> 2:07:36.600 sure you get one of the packagers. Thanks a lot 2:07:36.640 --> 2:07:39.200 for calling the show. To all our other callers, don't 2:07:39.240 --> 2:07:41.080 go anywhere. We'll be back to talk to you in 2:07:41.200 --> 2:07:43.480 just a moment. Twenty eight to one o'clock. We're here 2:07:43.560 --> 2:07:45.760 with Jim Haynes. As we are on a Sunday afternoon 2:07:46.000 --> 2:07:48.840 talking movies and people who are in them and where 2:07:48.880 --> 2:07:51.560 you went to see them. Let me say good aid 2:07:51.640 --> 2:07:54.600 to Ronda. First off, Hi, Ronda, can you help us 2:07:54.640 --> 2:07:55.200 with an answer? 2:07:56.360 --> 2:07:56.520 Hi? 2:07:58.080 --> 2:08:01.680 I believe the Inspector Gadget two movie was made in 2:08:01.800 --> 2:08:03.320 Brisbane with French Stewart. 2:08:03.760 --> 2:08:06.680 You are spot on. It certainly was at all those 2:08:07.160 --> 2:08:10.800 locations I mentioned, and it had just a whole swag 2:08:10.920 --> 2:08:14.400 of Aussie actors and you know who were in work 2:08:15.480 --> 2:08:19.480 continually from movie making. So yeah, Inspector Gadget. 2:08:19.320 --> 2:08:22.400 Well done, Well done, Ronda, don't hang up, the package 2:08:22.480 --> 2:08:23.760 is coming your way. Get a Keith. 2:08:25.040 --> 2:08:31.680 Yes, good morning, Sorry, good afternoons, mate, Interesting things about 2:08:31.760 --> 2:08:34.480 animals and movies. I'm sitting in my land room with 2:08:34.560 --> 2:08:37.960 my little Mini's just now So Rennie Kirby, who happened 2:08:38.000 --> 2:08:40.000 to be in the Great Gatsby movie. 2:08:40.680 --> 2:08:43.840 No, hang on, yeh, how did that happen? 2:08:45.280 --> 2:08:45.520 Well? 2:08:46.920 --> 2:08:50.400 I decided I needed to have a companion after my 2:08:50.520 --> 2:08:53.480 life passed, and my kids said, oh, what sort of 2:08:53.520 --> 2:08:54.160 dog did you get? 2:08:54.200 --> 2:08:54.760 I said, I don't know. 2:08:54.760 --> 2:08:57.000 I mean it's just now. Is probably because we've had 2:08:57.080 --> 2:09:00.640 big dogs. So I thought this little fellow. And the 2:09:00.760 --> 2:09:04.000 lady who had introduced me to them sent me an 2:09:04.040 --> 2:09:06.240 email saying, oh, look, I have a friend with an 2:09:06.280 --> 2:09:09.520 animal trainer and she's looking for a puppy dog to 2:09:09.640 --> 2:09:14.200 go into to be used in. She didn't say movie, 2:09:14.320 --> 2:09:18.320 she said in something. I can't remember the exact wording. Anyway, 2:09:18.680 --> 2:09:20.880 I said, oh, that would be nice. So about a 2:09:20.920 --> 2:09:23.840 week later I got a phone call from the trainer saying, look, 2:09:23.880 --> 2:09:27.320 can't come and have a look. So she did, and 2:09:28.000 --> 2:09:30.720 we went out in the backyard and he's running bearing 2:09:30.800 --> 2:09:34.280 him mind this puppy dogs what eight weeks old, And 2:09:34.760 --> 2:09:37.280 she loved him, and she took photographs and footage and 2:09:37.360 --> 2:09:40.480 she said, I'd like to use him, but it's up 2:09:40.560 --> 2:09:45.560 to my boss. Okay, that's fine, whatever. Nothing more thought 2:09:45.560 --> 2:09:47.200 about it. And then a week later I got a 2:09:47.240 --> 2:09:50.240 phone call from her saying, we want to use him, 2:09:50.880 --> 2:09:53.200 And she said, and my boss has made the decision, 2:09:53.840 --> 2:09:55.600 and her boss's basilim and the doors. 2:09:56.240 --> 2:09:57.960 Yeah, and they did. They made a lot of that. 2:09:58.520 --> 2:10:01.480 That Jeane The Great Gatsby has been filmed about half 2:10:01.480 --> 2:10:04.480 a dozen times, but that Baz Luhrmann. They did a 2:10:04.560 --> 2:10:06.800 lot of the shooting out here in Australia. So your 2:10:07.000 --> 2:10:08.440 dog is a film Remy. 2:10:08.840 --> 2:10:13.360 Hey, Keith, do you allow Remy a wardrobe allowance or 2:10:13.400 --> 2:10:13.920 anything like that? 2:10:15.400 --> 2:10:19.320 Can I tell you that he was paid? And then 2:10:19.360 --> 2:10:22.480 when I say he and my understanding is that extras 2:10:22.520 --> 2:10:25.560 get paid a certain allowance every day. He was paid 2:10:25.720 --> 2:10:28.960 two hundred and fifty dollars a day. They had him 2:10:28.960 --> 2:10:31.720 for four They had him for four days. He costs 2:10:31.760 --> 2:10:34.440 me one thousand dollars back in twenty eleven, so he 2:10:34.560 --> 2:10:41.560 pays himself. Now I currently have done for the last 2:10:41.600 --> 2:10:44.440 eleven years, lived in the retirement village. When I first 2:10:44.560 --> 2:10:47.520 moved here, i'd be walking around within the village because 2:10:48.560 --> 2:10:50.280 as you get to know the lie of the land, 2:10:50.640 --> 2:10:53.480 and everybody say hello, Remy, how are you going? And 2:10:53.600 --> 2:10:57.200 I understanding game on the blank that's got the leaving 2:10:57.280 --> 2:11:02.200 his hands. My name's Keith, Remy. 2:11:03.320 --> 2:11:06.080 Wow, mate, that is such a that is such a 2:11:06.160 --> 2:11:08.800 wonderful story. And it turns out you become Remy's handbag 2:11:09.120 --> 2:11:10.760 almost yes. Wow. 2:11:11.080 --> 2:11:15.000 And they also have food vans when they're on location shooting, 2:11:15.160 --> 2:11:18.400 so I assume they got special food in is that right? 2:11:20.040 --> 2:11:24.040 I applied the food and the trainer I think actually 2:11:24.120 --> 2:11:27.560 had to have two pups because of their age. Because 2:11:27.600 --> 2:11:31.160 they were so young they couldn't well, he'd be picked 2:11:31.200 --> 2:11:33.600 up at sort of six thirty in the morning and 2:11:33.680 --> 2:11:37.160 wouldn't be returned home until maybe ten eleven o'clock at night. 2:11:37.880 --> 2:11:41.400 So they had the two pups. So the second one 2:11:41.440 --> 2:11:44.280 they got, they had to groom him to look like 2:11:44.360 --> 2:11:49.400 Remy oh that is and on the shooting schedule down 2:11:49.440 --> 2:11:51.640 the bone of the shooting the schedule that said, min 2:11:51.720 --> 2:11:55.560 it's just now is a Remy Kirby understudy. 2:11:55.760 --> 2:11:56.120 Charlie. 2:11:57.000 --> 2:11:58.760 Oh wow, that is so good. 2:11:59.080 --> 2:12:01.880 You know, when when kids are in plays, Thanks Keith, 2:12:02.560 --> 2:12:06.120 A great story. Yeah, when kids are in plays, you know, 2:12:06.240 --> 2:12:09.680 they have to have two children, and they have to 2:12:10.200 --> 2:12:13.600 have one then the other because they can't miss too 2:12:13.640 --> 2:12:17.200 much school, all that sort of stuff. So every child 2:12:17.240 --> 2:12:19.880 who's in a live play, there are two of them 2:12:19.920 --> 2:12:21.960 and they have to alternate. But I had no idea. 2:12:22.000 --> 2:12:25.000 They extended that the canines that they have to have 2:12:25.160 --> 2:12:28.800 two puppies in case one misses out on school or something. 2:12:29.000 --> 2:12:33.000 Yes, and just in case my dog existing at home. Henry, 2:12:33.880 --> 2:12:37.080 there's an opportunity for you and I. You want those 2:12:37.200 --> 2:12:40.000 nice things up by you want more of them, my friend, Hello, 2:12:40.520 --> 2:12:44.600 stop jumping up and barking, Tim good Et. 2:12:47.160 --> 2:12:51.320 Well, Now, when the music was being filmed in Robertson, 2:12:51.920 --> 2:12:54.000 they you weren't allowed to go and take your car 2:12:54.360 --> 2:12:57.160 out of the Robertson area. There was enough party space 2:12:57.240 --> 2:12:59.240 for extra so they have four hundred extras to do 2:12:59.360 --> 2:13:02.760 the do the final scenes with the big over there. 2:13:03.280 --> 2:13:08.800 And when we arrived on the buses from Barrel, we 2:13:08.880 --> 2:13:10.400 all got off and the first thing they did at 2:13:10.400 --> 2:13:13.080 about six or seven in the morning was to feed 2:13:13.120 --> 2:13:13.680 his breakfast. 2:13:13.760 --> 2:13:21.880 And what do we have, Baker, Well, Robertson, they could 2:13:21.920 --> 2:13:24.680 have given you plenty of potatoes, a great potato growing 2:13:24.760 --> 2:13:27.480 area down there. But yeah, pretty good for bacon as well. 2:13:27.840 --> 2:13:32.040 Bacon in the making of Babe and did so wrong. 2:13:32.160 --> 2:13:32.880 It's so right. 2:13:33.280 --> 2:13:39.880 Babe actually forced the supermarkets almost out of business because 2:13:39.920 --> 2:13:42.480 people stopped eating poor did those of the movie with 2:13:43.200 --> 2:13:45.600 ridiculous It was a great movie, the first one. The 2:13:45.760 --> 2:13:48.120 second one was one of the worst movies I've ever seen. 2:13:48.680 --> 2:13:49.480 Babe in the City. 2:13:49.800 --> 2:13:54.960 Let's go to Dennis Gooday, Dennis today a good mate? 2:13:55.000 --> 2:13:59.200 You yeah fine, thank good on you over rother Maruvera 2:13:59.280 --> 2:14:01.920 and the Page actually, and they had a film studio 2:14:01.920 --> 2:14:04.240 out there. I think it's called trans of Film Studios. 2:14:04.640 --> 2:14:06.840 Uh, yeah, no, the trans the Pack was up north, 2:14:06.920 --> 2:14:08.880 but that was a film studio. They made a lot 2:14:08.920 --> 2:14:11.800 of movies there, The Wake and so on. 2:14:12.720 --> 2:14:14.640 Yeah, we got the nord that they were going to 2:14:14.680 --> 2:14:17.880 film the scene for Rica Stockade that night. So we 2:14:18.000 --> 2:14:20.160 all trudged out after dinner and went up there. And 2:14:21.080 --> 2:14:23.680 it was a scene where Chips Revenue played the part 2:14:23.720 --> 2:14:25.760 of Peter Lawler was in a pit and they had 2:14:25.960 --> 2:14:28.320 went and got him out after dark because he was 2:14:28.360 --> 2:14:31.960 in hiding after the army. He had defeated the people 2:14:32.040 --> 2:14:35.800 there and so were all the Chips popped down with 2:14:35.920 --> 2:14:38.879 his bead on hop down in the hole and camera's 2:14:38.960 --> 2:14:41.480 role and they dragged him out. It was all over 2:14:41.560 --> 2:14:42.160 in five minutes. 2:14:46.000 --> 2:14:49.800 Oh that's great, Thank you Dennis very much. Indeed, Hi, Martin, 2:14:49.960 --> 2:14:51.160 tell us your story mate. 2:14:52.120 --> 2:14:57.240 Yeah, I just wanted to say I grew up and 2:14:57.320 --> 2:15:00.800 could he in the fifteen sixties and we used to 2:15:00.880 --> 2:15:05.560 go to a theater called the Barrys Barri's Boomerang Theater. 2:15:06.120 --> 2:15:09.680 It was in an Art Deco style, very similar to 2:15:09.760 --> 2:15:12.080 the Ritz and it was pulled down the late fifties 2:15:12.120 --> 2:15:16.000 by the council to build a motel. But I remember 2:15:16.080 --> 2:15:18.880 going there and right near the surf club. It is 2:15:18.920 --> 2:15:23.000 down the south end and apparently budding Charles bud ting 2:15:23.080 --> 2:15:26.280 Will grew up in the area and he used to 2:15:26.320 --> 2:15:27.560 go there and he was a kid, and that's how 2:15:27.600 --> 2:15:30.720 he got it. He got his idea to get into movie. 2:15:31.000 --> 2:15:34.120 W Yeah, So all that's the history of it on 2:15:34.240 --> 2:15:36.160 the on the history side of the movie. But it's 2:15:36.160 --> 2:15:38.600 got a picture of the of the it's right near 2:15:38.640 --> 2:15:41.000 there at the park there down a sudden then, but 2:15:41.080 --> 2:15:43.040 there was another two theaters. I used to catch a 2:15:43.080 --> 2:15:46.240 three one forward at Bondi Junction and there was one 2:15:46.320 --> 2:15:48.840 just boy, you come into Bondai Junction, there was the movie. 2:15:49.120 --> 2:15:51.440 There was a cinema right on the left there. I 2:15:51.560 --> 2:15:53.720 SI got a couple of good shows there and there 2:15:53.800 --> 2:15:57.480 was another good one down on Enzach Parade at Kensington, 2:15:58.120 --> 2:16:02.120 which I think the Greeklorian Club took over. 2:16:04.680 --> 2:16:05.800 Jim remember them, do you? 2:16:06.160 --> 2:16:09.400 I do remember the old the Castle Risian Club was 2:16:09.480 --> 2:16:12.840 there and that cinema had been there many years before. 2:16:12.880 --> 2:16:15.800 I think that's all gone now and prays a concrete 2:16:15.840 --> 2:16:17.360 canyon now a lot of. 2:16:17.360 --> 2:16:18.200 That stuff with the. 2:16:19.680 --> 2:16:23.240 Trams of the rail and just apartment buildings all the 2:16:23.280 --> 2:16:26.560 way down. Now it's it's changed so much. But the 2:16:26.720 --> 2:16:30.400 coronet and the Star were also BONDI way. 2:16:31.120 --> 2:16:33.360 This one from Kristin who says I helped whire the 2:16:33.480 --> 2:16:37.760 quadrophonic sound at the Ritz Randwick when it was run 2:16:37.879 --> 2:16:41.480 by the Headley's many many years ago. Thank you, Christian. 2:16:41.879 --> 2:16:43.640 It's also sent me a link. I'll have a quick 2:16:43.680 --> 2:16:46.840 look at this, Jim, because there might be some gold 2:16:46.920 --> 2:16:52.080 in them there hills. And there's also five Ways picture 2:16:52.160 --> 2:16:57.360 Palace two two two Glenmore Road, Sydney. Well that be Pado, 2:16:57.400 --> 2:17:02.000 wouldn't it Paddington after the five Streets intersectionion It sits 2:17:02.040 --> 2:17:06.199 upon five Ways. Cinema started in nineteen fifteen, was rebuilt 2:17:06.240 --> 2:17:09.240 in twenty nine, run by the Hickey family Tom Hickey 2:17:09.480 --> 2:17:15.280 Randatives manager Cole Hickey's brother the projectionist, and also he 2:17:15.360 --> 2:17:20.360 had done much of the electrical wiring. Okay, thank you. 2:17:20.480 --> 2:17:22.640 They weren't fascinating stuff. I loved how about this? 2:17:22.800 --> 2:17:25.680 A lot of those early in the silent days, they 2:17:25.760 --> 2:17:29.720 were family businesses, and you know dad would be the 2:17:29.800 --> 2:17:32.760 projectionist and the daughters would be the usherettes and Mum 2:17:32.800 --> 2:17:36.199 would play the piano because there was never a silent movie. 2:17:36.360 --> 2:17:40.200 Every movie had a music score and it sometimes played 2:17:40.200 --> 2:17:44.760 by an orchestra of forty people, if not then banged 2:17:44.800 --> 2:17:46.360 out by somebody in the old piano. 2:17:47.920 --> 2:17:54.720 My mate's Indian Runner ducks were used in the film 2:17:55.360 --> 2:17:56.279 Babe Babe. 2:17:56.360 --> 2:17:58.840 Yeah, I remember the ducks and the mice in Babe 2:17:59.000 --> 2:17:59.320 do you know? 2:17:59.440 --> 2:17:59.600 Yeah? 2:18:00.000 --> 2:18:02.240 Now, I wonder if you've got two hundred and fifty 2:18:02.320 --> 2:18:07.080 bucks per duck per day. Goodness me, you'd love to 2:18:07.120 --> 2:18:09.280 write her keep him away from the food van. 2:18:09.360 --> 2:18:11.720 Anyway, home about the ducks who were on two hundred 2:18:11.720 --> 2:18:14.440 and fifty bucks? Now, where do we go next? Hello? John? 2:18:15.400 --> 2:18:19.840 Oh, afternoon, gentlemen, afternoon. I'd just like to talk about 2:18:19.920 --> 2:18:23.800 the old Roxy Theater in Parramatta yep in the fifties. 2:18:24.440 --> 2:18:29.200 What was unique about it? Before the movie started. An 2:18:29.360 --> 2:18:32.960 organist used to come up like a spiral out of 2:18:33.080 --> 2:18:38.800 the stage and play them before the actual movie. And 2:18:38.920 --> 2:18:42.680 his name was Wilba Kentwell and he lived in Castle 2:18:42.760 --> 2:18:44.959 Hill and he's got a street named after him up there. 2:18:45.200 --> 2:18:46.080 Wow geez. 2:18:46.240 --> 2:18:49.960 Yeah, there were the cremorn orpheum I think had a 2:18:50.160 --> 2:18:54.440 Riser and some of the inner city theaters did too. 2:18:54.800 --> 2:18:57.520 Is it The band or the orchestra would get on 2:18:57.640 --> 2:19:00.600 the platform, you know, when the movie was coming near 2:19:00.640 --> 2:19:03.520 to its end, and when interboo came, the platform would 2:19:03.800 --> 2:19:07.480 rise up and they would be playing as they came 2:19:07.600 --> 2:19:09.440 up onto the stage. Wonderful stuff. 2:19:10.720 --> 2:19:13.359 Good on you, Thank you John very much. Indeed, Joseph 2:19:14.040 --> 2:19:20.240 our final caller today today Joseph gooday, goody good, really good. 2:19:21.440 --> 2:19:23.560 You know a bit about the Rich Theater in Randwick, 2:19:23.600 --> 2:19:23.800 do you? 2:19:24.959 --> 2:19:25.400 That's right. 2:19:25.560 --> 2:19:29.760 I was involved in restore restoration on Parpenter and Joiner 2:19:30.560 --> 2:19:35.720 and I restored some of the ceilings which was part Deco, 2:19:36.640 --> 2:19:41.840 and I was on the stage there about I think 2:19:41.879 --> 2:19:46.280 it was six meters up in the air right well, 2:19:46.280 --> 2:19:50.680 and the ones and make a new panels to restore 2:19:50.760 --> 2:19:51.880 it as original. 2:19:52.400 --> 2:19:54.520 Wow. When was that? When did that happen? 2:19:54.640 --> 2:19:59.280 Joseph ninety It was ninety seven. 2:20:00.440 --> 2:20:03.320 It's not that long ago. And a lot of those 2:20:03.959 --> 2:20:07.240 beautiful plaster ceilings that they don't have the molds anymore. 2:20:07.440 --> 2:20:10.200 You've got to go up and make one and then 2:20:10.760 --> 2:20:13.160 take it to the factory and recreate it. 2:20:13.320 --> 2:20:17.840 So yeah, Jason, what was it like working in that space. 2:20:17.920 --> 2:20:21.480 I guess you're doing. It's not just you, but there's 2:20:21.560 --> 2:20:24.039 people everywhere. Are they working to restore the place? 2:20:24.080 --> 2:20:24.640 What was it like? 2:20:25.800 --> 2:20:26.080 It was? 2:20:26.320 --> 2:20:30.039 It was quite a few people there. And I remember 2:20:30.560 --> 2:20:34.800 making one section of the ceiling which was finished with 2:20:34.959 --> 2:20:37.800 the I was making the panels on the ground and 2:20:37.879 --> 2:20:40.040 then we hoist them up and fix them. I was 2:20:40.080 --> 2:20:43.240 fixing them into position, and it was made out of 2:20:43.360 --> 2:20:49.760 kraftwood because the original ones were sort of like soundproofing 2:20:49.920 --> 2:20:54.040 material which was very sort of porous, you know, and 2:20:54.240 --> 2:20:57.720 with the age and water had got into certain parts 2:20:57.800 --> 2:21:02.240 of it and they've built collapsed. But I remember putting 2:21:02.360 --> 2:21:05.760 some new panels up and then the electricians were enup 2:21:06.480 --> 2:21:10.400 to do some wiring, and one of the electricians almost 2:21:10.440 --> 2:21:11.520 fell through one of them. 2:21:13.400 --> 2:21:17.080 Yeah, this is this idea of worker safety is it 2:21:17.320 --> 2:21:20.199 has to be said it a recent it's. 2:21:20.120 --> 2:21:22.640 A really modern concept. 2:21:23.040 --> 2:21:26.120 Yeah, Joseph, thanks so much for getting in touch. One 2:21:26.160 --> 2:21:28.320 of our listeners, Debra, wants to put a shout out 2:21:28.400 --> 2:21:31.400 for the Roseville Cinema, a great place to see movies. 2:21:31.440 --> 2:21:34.440 I still remember the piano and organ being played there. 2:21:34.560 --> 2:21:34.760 Yeah. 2:21:36.120 --> 2:21:38.600 I can't remember the ones in the city that had 2:21:38.879 --> 2:21:41.720 the lift but I do know a very quick story 2:21:41.760 --> 2:21:44.040 about a lovely old man who I knew for a 2:21:44.120 --> 2:21:47.800 long time, Jack, And he was a trombonist and he 2:21:47.959 --> 2:21:51.240 used to do several cinemas and he was running late 2:21:51.600 --> 2:21:53.560 and he didn't have time to put on his fancy 2:21:54.200 --> 2:21:57.560 satin pants properly, and he jumped on. They said, quick, quick, 2:21:57.640 --> 2:22:00.160 and he jumped on. The thing was going up, and 2:22:00.560 --> 2:22:02.800 so he's on there, he's in his seat, but he 2:22:02.879 --> 2:22:04.880 hasn't done his pants up yet. And he was a 2:22:04.959 --> 2:22:08.480 big man. And as they were coming up, he said, 2:22:08.520 --> 2:22:11.040 what's the first number? And I've forgotten what I was 2:22:11.080 --> 2:22:15.200 say that, you know, moon, moonlight serenade or something, And 2:22:15.440 --> 2:22:19.800 he had to do a trombone solo, and he realized 2:22:20.160 --> 2:22:23.840 that if he didn't, he didn't have time to do 2:22:23.959 --> 2:22:26.160 his pants up, and he was going to have to 2:22:26.320 --> 2:22:30.560 stand up to do the trombone solo right at some point. 2:22:30.680 --> 2:22:32.160 I don't know how it turned out. 2:22:32.800 --> 2:22:36.959 The trombone you have to move the contragulated, so. 2:22:37.040 --> 2:22:39.160 It's a two hand instrument, so he couldn't hold on 2:22:39.240 --> 2:22:43.080 to it. He couldn't hold onto his jacks, and so 2:22:43.320 --> 2:22:46.600 he was risking his pants falling down on what. 2:22:47.160 --> 2:22:50.160 Group of instruments. Does the trombone belong. 2:22:49.879 --> 2:22:54.320 To it's a brass, yes, of course, but the or 2:22:54.600 --> 2:22:57.320 They had huge orchestras in those cinemas in the in 2:22:57.440 --> 2:22:59.480 the city, and quite often. 2:22:59.440 --> 2:23:01.560 The organ keep his pants around his brass. 2:23:01.800 --> 2:23:02.960 Well, well that's trying. 2:23:03.400 --> 2:23:06.959 It was either the brass or he's something else. 2:23:07.520 --> 2:23:09.520 Look, I'm going away the week, half the next for 2:23:09.560 --> 2:23:11.119 a few weeks. Are we going to do this again 2:23:11.160 --> 2:23:11.680 while we're done? 2:23:11.760 --> 2:23:14.119 Do you know what? We haven't even talked about drive ins? 2:23:14.320 --> 2:23:17.600 Oh drive because someone made the point. Oh yes, somebody 2:23:18.840 --> 2:23:22.040 remember the name? He actually conceived it a driving Well, 2:23:22.440 --> 2:23:24.400 it's one of our on air personalities. 2:23:24.440 --> 2:23:27.039 I know in a former Great Test State of Origin 2:23:27.160 --> 2:23:32.800 and Premiership winning rugular league player initials MG. You know 2:23:32.959 --> 2:23:35.280 im he was conceived of Blacktown driving. 2:23:36.040 --> 2:23:40.200 Well, there was Chalora bass Hill, the matrival star, which 2:23:40.320 --> 2:23:43.080 I have memories of, you know, back in the days 2:23:43.120 --> 2:23:46.400 when that sort of thing happened. And of course the 2:23:46.480 --> 2:23:49.560 whole drive in history is interesting because the family could 2:23:49.640 --> 2:23:53.120 go out and eat and be entertained without having to 2:23:53.200 --> 2:23:55.240 get babysitters. It was a phenomenon. 2:23:55.560 --> 2:23:57.000 Did they check the boot did? 2:23:57.320 --> 2:23:57.480 Oh? 2:23:57.720 --> 2:23:57.920 Yeah? 2:23:58.040 --> 2:24:01.600 Trying to smuggle people you couldn't do you know? Oh well, 2:24:02.160 --> 2:24:03.280 I think lots of people did. 2:24:03.440 --> 2:24:05.800 And is it a g app to think that people 2:24:05.959 --> 2:24:07.760 drove off with the speaker in the window. 2:24:07.920 --> 2:24:08.320 I did it? 2:24:09.160 --> 2:24:09.200 You? 2:24:09.640 --> 2:24:09.800 Why? 2:24:10.200 --> 2:24:11.360 Actually? How dare you? 2:24:12.520 --> 2:24:17.039 It was so easy to do. And in certain cinemas, 2:24:17.280 --> 2:24:19.720 in the one in Inverarrell it was so cold. 2:24:19.800 --> 2:24:23.039 Hang on, there was a driving and you're joking? Where 2:24:23.160 --> 2:24:23.280 was that? 2:24:23.520 --> 2:24:23.920 There was. 2:24:25.480 --> 2:24:29.280 Seventies seventies seven, nineteen seventies. I was even born then. 2:24:31.840 --> 2:24:34.000 Not only did you get the speaker, but you've got 2:24:34.080 --> 2:24:36.600 a demistera and a heater. Oh my god, well so 2:24:36.720 --> 2:24:39.520 you had two things hanging off your window. All right, 2:24:39.520 --> 2:24:42.200 it wasn't great driving store. We're going to do drivings 2:24:42.280 --> 2:24:46.119 next week. Good to see Jim. You two, that's Kim Haynes. Hey, 2:24:46.160 --> 2:24:48.680 you don't hear this. Three Often there's been a zebra, 2:24:49.400 --> 2:24:53.320 a ped zebra, imagine having one of them. A ped 2:24:53.440 --> 2:24:58.720 zebra which escaped in Tennessee has been found. I wish 2:24:58.760 --> 2:25:00.800 I could tell you more. We're having look at the 2:25:00.920 --> 2:25:05.000 detail there, but it's either a zebra or it's a 2:25:05.120 --> 2:25:08.400 beautifully painted horse. If you've got a horse, please don't 2:25:08.440 --> 2:25:10.800 paint it. And that was a man in the radio 2:25:10.959 --> 2:25:18.480 being silly. Quiz time spinal eSEE three questions be hand 2:25:18.560 --> 2:25:21.920 you to know Saudi Arabia. Just giving you a heads 2:25:22.000 --> 2:25:25.400 up suffering from headache, saw Nekel storing The solution could 2:25:25.520 --> 2:25:29.680 be the world's best premium supportive pillow. It's a spinalse pillow. 2:25:30.160 --> 2:25:32.840 You can order them now. It's spinaleas at e dot 2:25:32.920 --> 2:25:36.240 com dot ao if you'd like to play one three, 2:25:36.280 --> 2:25:40.279 one eight seven three the Continuous Call team. Next amongst 2:25:40.360 --> 2:25:44.800 the stars, of course at the Helm is one Iron 2:25:45.560 --> 2:25:47.320 the Grey. Gavin Pitchford, how are you mate? 2:25:48.120 --> 2:25:48.320 Go on? 2:25:48.400 --> 2:25:50.800 Good look, beautiful day out here, mate, So we're in 2:25:50.879 --> 2:25:52.720 for a big, big afternoon of footy. 2:25:55.040 --> 2:25:57.960 I'm going the Bulldogs. I think they've you know, lucky Galvin. 2:25:58.160 --> 2:26:00.920 That's to tip the team on top the table. Well done, 2:26:02.200 --> 2:26:06.200 great stuff. We're going by this week's this weekend's tipsy. 2:26:06.320 --> 2:26:08.560 How have you been going in your tipping competition? I 2:26:08.680 --> 2:26:11.720 think I'm going very well this weekend. I have only 2:26:11.760 --> 2:26:15.600 missed one, but it's only early. Hey, listen, are there 2:26:15.640 --> 2:26:18.840 any Bulldogs legends nearby that can. 2:26:18.879 --> 2:26:19.520 Yes, I'm here. 2:26:21.959 --> 2:26:23.039 That's unbelievable. 2:26:23.440 --> 2:26:26.080 Already five premiership winner. 2:26:26.000 --> 2:26:28.440 I know I know when you're walking to that ground 2:26:28.520 --> 2:26:29.720 you get goosebumps. 2:26:30.680 --> 2:26:31.600 No, I didn't play here. 2:26:33.840 --> 2:26:36.520 Okay, put this well, when Canterbury played at home, even 2:26:36.520 --> 2:26:38.240 though they don't play at the ground you played at, 2:26:38.480 --> 2:26:39.520 do you get goosebumps? 2:26:40.120 --> 2:26:41.760 No, it's just good to get there. 2:26:42.160 --> 2:26:43.440 It's just good to be still around. 2:26:43.520 --> 2:26:43.800 Luky. 2:26:43.959 --> 2:26:47.080 I love the Bulldogs, particularly now they've been successful. 2:26:47.200 --> 2:26:49.440 Did you say yesterday on air you've only got ten 2:26:49.520 --> 2:26:50.720 years to go? What the hell? 2:26:51.040 --> 2:26:53.880 No, that wasn't me, that was Gallon said I'll be 2:26:53.920 --> 2:26:54.680 dead in ten years. 2:26:54.800 --> 2:26:55.720 That's outrageous. 2:26:56.320 --> 2:26:58.960 Yeah, that you will or Galu, No, I will be 2:26:59.280 --> 2:27:00.400 You'll be gone in July. 2:27:05.440 --> 2:27:08.760 You've seen this story today about Gal and s PW's fight. 2:27:10.560 --> 2:27:11.680 What there's no tickets sold? 2:27:13.400 --> 2:27:16.080 I didn't know it gives Oh, well. 2:27:16.080 --> 2:27:16.360 Thank you. 2:27:17.640 --> 2:27:19.440 I'm going to talk to one of my friends about 2:27:19.480 --> 2:27:22.360 this quiz. Thank you, big marn and Gavin, thank you. 2:27:23.320 --> 2:27:26.240 Thank you for everything you do for this place, whether 2:27:26.280 --> 2:27:28.680 it's making noises on the air with your mouth today 2:27:28.840 --> 2:27:32.160 or making noises with buttons through the week with Mark. 2:27:32.879 --> 2:27:35.039 We thank you for it. We thank you for your service. 2:27:35.480 --> 2:27:38.320 One eye are the boys coming up soon? Who we 2:27:38.400 --> 2:27:41.400 got Lynnett? Hih Lynette, good morning. 2:27:41.560 --> 2:27:42.440 Act to it. 2:27:42.560 --> 2:27:45.920 It is afternoon. Is a spinallyse pillow for you if 2:27:45.959 --> 2:27:52.760 you're clever, repeat, will repeat after me. Saudi Arabia, Saudi 2:27:52.840 --> 2:28:02.120 Arabia seventy nine and Adam Scott, Adam Scott. Of course 2:28:03.240 --> 2:28:07.360 there you are, say that we don't need a wheel. 2:28:08.400 --> 2:28:10.920 Gotta go. Thank you so much to my team Nelson 2:28:10.959 --> 2:28:18.000 and Michael and Liam and uh, that's a cane. I 2:28:18.160 --> 2:28:21.280 made three birds dead this morning when I got to work. 2:28:21.280 --> 2:28:23.400 I'll tell you about it next weekend. Sorry, that's an injoke. 2:28:23.480 --> 2:28:26.520 The zebra has the name ed. It was lost for 2:28:26.600 --> 2:28:29.000 a week in Tennessee. We don't know if it was 2:28:29.080 --> 2:28:31.480 black with white stripes or white with black stripes. That 2:28:31.680 --> 2:28:33.720 was a delay, apparently, See you next weekend. 2:28:33.760 --> 2:28:34.119 Bye bye,