WEBVTT - David Kilderry - Remember When Legend - 15 Jun, 2025

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew. When was the last time you went to a

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<v Speaker 1>drive in cinema?

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<v Speaker 2>Sadly too long ago. I'm going to say fifteen years

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<v Speaker 2>or so ago, Dramala.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see. That's why they all closed down, from your

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<v Speaker 1>lack of support.

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of others. It was the video shop

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<v Speaker 2>that sort of did them in, wasn't it more than

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<v Speaker 2>anything else? I was old.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was your lack of support. A man

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<v Speaker 1>who's very angry with you, joins us, now, David Kilderry,

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<v Speaker 1>who ran the Lunar drive in for years and years

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<v Speaker 1>and years.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, David gooda Simon good Andrew.

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<v Speaker 1>Now David, So tell us movies, drive ins and stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Where did that first enter your life? Where did the

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<v Speaker 1>love of it come from?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>I remember going to the drive in as a little kid,

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<v Speaker 3>being flopped in the backseat of the family Volkswagen and

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<v Speaker 3>fighting for viewing space with my brothers and sisters. But

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<v Speaker 3>the story I like to tell is that in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>seventy four, my parents built a second story extension on

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<v Speaker 3>the family home in Reservoir. My sister chose the bedroom

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<v Speaker 3>with the view of the backyard, and I got the

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<v Speaker 3>one that looked out to a drive in screen. So

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<v Speaker 3>from that point on I was hooked.

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<v Speaker 2>See how about that got no sound but you got

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<v Speaker 2>to see the action.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, with the type of movies they were running in

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<v Speaker 3>the mid seventies andrew that you didn't really need sound.

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<v Speaker 3>What was going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Fairly predictable plots. Yeah, that's intriguing, and you ended up

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<v Speaker 2>with the controlling the lunar. How many drive ins do

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<v Speaker 2>you know are still operating around Melbourne or in the

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<v Speaker 2>greater Melbourne area?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, but this two in Melbourne. There's Village Coburg and

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<v Speaker 3>down at Dremana as well, but there's only twelve left

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<v Speaker 3>in Australia. And if we were talking just a few

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<v Speaker 3>months ago, I would have said ten because two of them,

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<v Speaker 3>one in Queensland and one in South Australia, had their

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<v Speaker 3>screens blown down and that's a problem. Once they get

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<v Speaker 3>to fifty sixty years old, the rust and rot starts

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<v Speaker 3>to take effect, and storms took them both out. But

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pleased to save both of those driving one in

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<v Speaker 3>Cooper PD and one in air back open again and

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<v Speaker 3>screening now.

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<v Speaker 2>So well the Kopa PD drive and there's a thought hell,

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't imagine, But of course there is obviously one.

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<v Speaker 2>What would a screen cost a replace?

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, well, look, they're upwards of three to four hundred

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<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars now because they're massive. They're as large as

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<v Speaker 3>a suburban house block when if you lay the thing

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<v Speaker 3>on the ground. But of course you need about twenty

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<v Speaker 3>concrete mixers worth of concrete just to secure the foundations

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<v Speaker 3>before you start with all the steel work coming up

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<v Speaker 3>out of the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, now that answers David a question that I had

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<v Speaker 1>for you, because I occasionally go out to the one

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<v Speaker 1>Turner trash and Treasure place out there, which is on

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<v Speaker 1>the old one Turner drive in cinema spot, and the

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<v Speaker 1>concrete base, the big concrete blocks that were at the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of the screen are still there and I look

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<v Speaker 1>at it when I go there, and I go, I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder why they never got rid of those blocks.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well it's like an iceberg. Most of it's below

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<v Speaker 3>the surface. But you're right. The tragic story with the

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<v Speaker 3>old hoytz Wan Turner drive in was is that in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty two Heints made the decision to add a

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<v Speaker 3>second screen there and it cost them about a million

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<v Speaker 3>dollars With all the ash fels and new projection building.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was a twin screen, but for just one year.

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<v Speaker 3>So you mentioned earlier the videos. They had a devastating

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<v Speaker 3>effect and that driving closed as a twin drive in

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<v Speaker 3>only after one year of operation with the two screens.

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<v Speaker 2>See the heights took a bath there, didn't they financially?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, the business changed really fast, Andrew, I was working

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<v Speaker 3>in drivings in those days and while they were closing

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<v Speaker 3>faster than we could eat a steak sandwich from the

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<v Speaker 3>snack bar.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you ever try some drive ins? I know did

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<v Speaker 2>I never actually went to one of them, but had

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<v Speaker 2>this but there were rock bands sometimes playing before the movie,

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<v Speaker 2>some drive ins.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh look, it was huge our driving at Danning on

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<v Speaker 3>the Luna when it was village in the seventies. They

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<v Speaker 3>had Billy Thorpe and the Aztecs play there one afternoon

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<v Speaker 3>and the sound was so loud they got complaints from

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<v Speaker 3>two suburbs away. So of course your good friend Pete

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<v Speaker 3>Smith used to compare Battle of the Bands at the

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<v Speaker 3>north Land Twin Driving and Denise Dreisdale was one of

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<v Speaker 3>the go go dances there. So there's been lots of

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<v Speaker 3>live music at drivings over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>We've just had a text coming through. My last trip

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<v Speaker 1>to the Lunar driving that I went to was to

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<v Speaker 1>see one of the worst films I ever paid to see,

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<v Speaker 1>The Flash in twenty twenty two. It's not your fault

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<v Speaker 1>if the product's not.

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<v Speaker 3>Good, though, No, that's right. I'd take a fence if

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<v Speaker 3>it was the Hamburgers or the donuts. But giving it

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<v Speaker 3>to the movie, we just show them, we don't make them.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the hard Top. There is a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of profit comes from, of course, the concessions,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't it from the hamburgers and the lollies?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely? Andrew look the concessions as we call them in

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<v Speaker 3>the industry, whether it be hot food or just the

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<v Speaker 3>popcorn and the drinks, it's important. But I should point

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<v Speaker 3>out that there are cinemas where snacks are still reasonably affordable.

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<v Speaker 3>You can make good profit without charging extortion at prices.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I go, and I still go to the

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<v Speaker 3>cinema and drive in quite frequently, when I see prices

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<v Speaker 3>that I think are over the top, I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>just pushing a little bit too far. There's still good

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<v Speaker 3>money in it without being ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, so how did you come to run. So you

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<v Speaker 1>ended up owning the Lunar Driving, didn't you?

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<v Speaker 3>We did. Yeah, Look, I'd spent my career working I

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<v Speaker 3>started at Greater Union Cinemas, working at the Forum, which

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<v Speaker 3>many of your listeners would remember, perhaps even as the States.

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<v Speaker 3>So I started there about forty four years ago as

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<v Speaker 3>an assistant projectionist, then rose through to projectionists, worked at Hoyts,

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<v Speaker 3>worked in their cinemas, and then went to Village and

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<v Speaker 3>I got to supervise both drivings and cinemas there. So

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<v Speaker 3>the natural progression and what I always wanted to do

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<v Speaker 3>was to run my own theater. So with a partner

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<v Speaker 3>and my brother, we reopened the former closed Village daninom

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<v Speaker 3>Driving as it was over twenty years ago and ran

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<v Speaker 3>it for over twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it a Was it a good community in that

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<v Speaker 1>if you're up against Heyts and Village, who were, of

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<v Speaker 1>course sort of the two big ones, and you're operating

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<v Speaker 1>as an independent, did they you know they sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a bit not happy with you? Or was it all

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<v Speaker 1>a big friendly community?

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<v Speaker 3>Well I wouldn't say it was absolutely friendly, but look,

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<v Speaker 3>given I knew very senior people at both companies, I

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<v Speaker 3>remember that one company in particular said to me they

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<v Speaker 3>were very supportive of having strong independent cinemas out there,

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<v Speaker 3>and plus we were going to hire a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>films from their distribution arm and that we did. Look luckily,

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<v Speaker 3>we weren't competing with the drive in against one of theirs.

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<v Speaker 3>At the time. Both Tromana and Coburg were equi distant

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<v Speaker 3>from us at Luna Daninong, So as long as there

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<v Speaker 3>was a forty five minute drive, we weren't really standing

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<v Speaker 3>on their toes. And look, some people just prefer the

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<v Speaker 3>drive into an indoor cinema, and we drew from a

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<v Speaker 3>large area. And in fact, we said almost every one

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<v Speaker 3>of our customers had to drive past the cinema to

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<v Speaker 3>get to us, So they're making a drive in choice

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<v Speaker 3>rather than a choice on a particular movie or not.

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<v Speaker 2>So talking with David Kilderry about drive in movies, and

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<v Speaker 2>there was a big problem with musicals, view that the

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<v Speaker 2>drive in for years and years has been it's been

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<v Speaker 2>fixed now. Of course you can you tune into your

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<v Speaker 2>car radio, your car sound system too. Here here the

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<v Speaker 2>movie soundtrack. But I remember going to see Paint your

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<v Speaker 2>Wagon at the drive and then you've got this little

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<v Speaker 2>tiny speaker hooks on your window with and all that

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<v Speaker 2>eight track sound or whatever sixteen tracks sound, Holly would

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<v Speaker 2>have gone to the bother of creating for the movie

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<v Speaker 2>was just reduced to this little tid That was a

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<v Speaker 2>bit problem Muslim.

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<v Speaker 3>All of that beautiful seventy millimeter six track stereo sound

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<v Speaker 3>folded down into one little insect eat and speaker hang

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<v Speaker 3>it fright window. Yeah, look, thankfully sound improved.

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<v Speaker 4>Andrew.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, all are driving since the nineties have used

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<v Speaker 3>FM stereo sounds. So we used to say that the

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<v Speaker 3>better your car sound system is, the better our movie

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<v Speaker 3>is going to sound. So that was a big improvement.

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<v Speaker 3>Yet people loved the nostalgia of the speakers. They didn't

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<v Speaker 3>want us to take the speakers away. They wanted them there.

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<v Speaker 3>They wanted to look at them. They want to use them, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 3>it's synonymous with the driving, but they didn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>listen to them. They wanted the better quality sounds.

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<v Speaker 1>But then they drive off with it's still attached to

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<v Speaker 1>the window.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah.

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<v Speaker 3>Luckily only very few people did that because it did

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<v Speaker 3>cause problems for us and for them.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a Sandringham Drive and I went to it

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<v Speaker 2>a long time ago, and there was a little section

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<v Speaker 2>where you could just sit. And these were people who

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<v Speaker 2>I remember I spoke to them at interval and they

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<v Speaker 2>just came to the drive in to watch the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a speaker there and they actually lived only

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<v Speaker 2>a street away and they just walked up. And did

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<v Speaker 2>you provide seats out in actual seats for non vehicle people.

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<v Speaker 3>We did, and the indoor sections that they had for

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<v Speaker 3>those people at some of the drivings. Burwood had one

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<v Speaker 3>as well, and there was one at our driving. They

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<v Speaker 3>were called walking so they in cinema seats with a

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<v Speaker 3>big glass wall and a speaker. And that's for people

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<v Speaker 3>that wanted to arrive on a bike or walk. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>I heard even some people arrived on horses to view

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<v Speaker 3>movies in the early days. That way it driving wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize what a great idea.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a good idea. Yeah, Now you.

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<v Speaker 1>Do presentations and public speaking and stuff, don't you on this?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it just on drivings that you do it or no?

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<v Speaker 3>I do it on few topics, mostly related to cinemas,

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<v Speaker 3>but also do some to do with cars as well.

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<v Speaker 3>But the most popular public talk I do was on

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<v Speaker 3>the history of drivings and I do that quite often,

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<v Speaker 3>and I also do quite a few on cinemas as well.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've got one coming up at the Brand Mechanics

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<v Speaker 3>Institute on August the twelfth and that's called the Lost

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<v Speaker 3>Suburban Cinemas of Melbourne and that's a free talk that's

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<v Speaker 3>happening there, so you can book online if there's still

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<v Speaker 3>some seats available and you'll hear all about Melbourne's Lost

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<v Speaker 3>suburban cinemas.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got another thing that really well did the cinema,

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<v Speaker 2>the driving cinemas in David was the fact that so

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<v Speaker 2>much of their land became just extremely valuable. The Clayton Drive,

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<v Speaker 2>it was well, how many acres was the luna to

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<v Speaker 2>give me.

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<v Speaker 3>Some luna was fifteen But Clayton that you mentioned Metro

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<v Speaker 3>and later Village Clayton across the road from the University,

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<v Speaker 3>there was on twenty five acres of some of the

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<v Speaker 3>most prime land. And when you think of two driving

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<v Speaker 3>up on the hill there onto the Rack Road and Sandringham.

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<v Speaker 3>As we mentioned, the moment these places started to have

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<v Speaker 3>marginal operating figures, that was a very easy decision to

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<v Speaker 3>sell them and get the profits. And that's the problem

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<v Speaker 3>with drivings today they're christ out of the populated areas.

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<v Speaker 2>It's unbelievable now people, there was a driving in track

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<v Speaker 2>and that you know what was it, you know, two

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<v Speaker 2>or three thousand dollars per square footed land or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that into ITCT and there used to be driving there. Ye,

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<v Speaker 2>very hard to justify running it as a as a theater.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, yeah, it really. People ask me often, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>will drivings open again? Will anyone build one? Well? They might,

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<v Speaker 3>but you have to find an area that's close enough

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<v Speaker 3>to a population, on a piece of land that is

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<v Speaker 3>going to have land tax rates that are going to

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<v Speaker 3>be affordable. And that's one of the reasons we closed

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<v Speaker 3>that Danninong is the land tax and all the operating

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<v Speaker 3>costs just just became too high for us to maintain

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<v Speaker 3>the driving there now.

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<v Speaker 1>David Kilderry, Captain Elfie has called in an occasional caller

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<v Speaker 1>to the programs I believe, with the question for you

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<v Speaker 1>get a Captain Elfie.

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<v Speaker 4>And the greeting sir, and how do you do David?

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<v Speaker 4>It's fantastic what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>But what I used to do, but thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, okay, if you can just put your mind down

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<v Speaker 4>to Lawn, back where I used to live and did

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<v Speaker 4>all my holidays down there at my grandmother's place around

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<v Speaker 4>the corner from the Lawn Hotel. Well, we had a

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<v Speaker 4>cinema there, sense I'm saying, from the sixties onwards, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's I want to they're having a few concerts there

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<v Speaker 4>and stuff, but it's not the old cinema with those

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<v Speaker 4>beautiful seats and the chap is down you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>the chap who did it, who ran it, his nickname

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<v Speaker 4>was Mooney. Don't ask me what his real name was,

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<v Speaker 4>but we always knew him was Mooney. And fortunately I've

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<v Speaker 4>heard from some of the boys down at Lawn that

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<v Speaker 4>he did pass away. But it was a classic. And

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<v Speaker 4>then people want to change it to I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>some venue, even units. I mean, my god, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>A beautiful feater down at Lawn. I know it very well.

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<v Speaker 3>And unfortunately it changed hands about two years ago, and

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<v Speaker 3>they had plans to run movies not just at holidays

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<v Speaker 3>there but all year round, and unfortunately there wasn't enough

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<v Speaker 3>numbers to support it. And now, like you said, I

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<v Speaker 3>heard that it's now doing live performances and various other things.

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<v Speaker 3>I just hope that they're able to at least reopen

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<v Speaker 3>it for the summer holidays again, because there's traditions of

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<v Speaker 3>generations of people going down to lawn and enjoying that cinema,

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<v Speaker 3>particularly on a rainy tay in the middle of January.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of those things, is that. Thank you, Captain Alphie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of those things, isn't it, David, And I've

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<v Speaker 1>always said this. We lament the closing of the local

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<v Speaker 1>family owned hardware store, yet we all shop at Bunnings.

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<v Speaker 1>We the closing of our the local butcher shop and

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<v Speaker 1>the local greengrocer, yet we all go to Coles and

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<v Speaker 1>Woolli's the only people to blame for the lack of

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<v Speaker 1>you for changes in these sorts of things. If a

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<v Speaker 1>cinema closes down due to low patronage, it's the patrons

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<v Speaker 1>who were to blame.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's right. It's all part of it. And the

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<v Speaker 3>old song you don't know what you've got until it's gone.

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<v Speaker 3>Say when it's gone, I wish it was back. But

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<v Speaker 3>you need to support them while they're there. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>often you see whenever you see something mentioned about driving

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<v Speaker 3>theaters online, often the first or second comment is, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I used to be snuck in.

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<v Speaker 4>In the boots.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that certainly didn't help things on the finance either.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was a right of passage, wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>It seemed to me. Did you actually find that happened

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, that people were snucking in boots?

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<v Speaker 3>It didn't happen a lot, but it did happen. And

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<v Speaker 3>we had a rule, my brother and I, if we

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<v Speaker 3>caught them before the ticket box, if for another customer

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<v Speaker 3>said hey, there's two people in the boot in the

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<v Speaker 3>behind us. If we caught them there, we got them

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<v Speaker 3>out to embarrass them and let them still pay to

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<v Speaker 3>come in. But if we caught them inside the theater,

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<v Speaker 3>once they'd done the deception or theft is the police

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<v Speaker 3>class it has, they'd be booted out without refund. So

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<v Speaker 3>you walk a fine line for the people that tried

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<v Speaker 3>to put that over on us.

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<v Speaker 1>Wonderful And now the only bit of cinematic sort of

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge that I've got when and I think I bring

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<v Speaker 1>it up every time we ever speak to you, David,

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<v Speaker 1>I was told once where Village Cinemas got its name from.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I'm right in remembering this correctly, it was

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<v Speaker 1>named after the Twin Driving at Croydon, was it not?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the Rock Kirby who was the founder along

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<v Speaker 3>with his partners Spencer and Alexander. They built that drive

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<v Speaker 3>in as their first one in late nineteen fifty four

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<v Speaker 3>and Rock told me he was looking for a name

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<v Speaker 3>and he couldn't think of a name. And just alongside

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<v Speaker 3>near the entrances it's where McDonald's is in Croydon now

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<v Speaker 3>on Runda Highway. But there was an old group of

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<v Speaker 3>shops that have now gone and they were called the

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<v Speaker 3>Village Baker, the Village Grosser, the Village milk Bar, and

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<v Speaker 3>he thought why not the Village Driving. So that simple

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<v Speaker 3>name he just took from the shops next to it,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's the name we know well. It was in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty countries around the world at the peak as village

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<v Speaker 3>cinemas today.

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<v Speaker 2>Movies and all that. Yes, a big distribution company too.

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<v Speaker 2>David Gilderry, what an absolute pleasure to talk to you,

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<v Speaker 2>and I hope we speak again sometime.

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<v Speaker 3>It's always great fun. Andrew and Simon, thanks a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>And if people do want to see talks, presentations or

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<v Speaker 1>book you or anything, is there a website or anything

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<v Speaker 1>they can go.

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<v Speaker 3>To Well For the one I've got coming up, they

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<v Speaker 3>can just go to the paran Mechanics Institute PMI just

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<v Speaker 3>search it online. It's the Victorian Local History Library. The

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<v Speaker 3>Cinema and Theatre Historical Society are also big supporters of

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<v Speaker 3>my presentations and you can search for them online as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Fabulous David killed Derry from the lunar, driving Rick Milne

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<v Speaker 1>up after the break